Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Charlamagne tha God On Diddy Tape, Catching Gay, and Nuclear War
Episode Date: May 29, 2024YERRR had to get on CTG on Flagrant to talk about Diddy, Ye, Nukes and also debut some exclusive new music from Charlamagne. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 1:04 Andrew is a civil rights hero 4:43 “Get Honest ...or Die Lying” + we want MEAT not small talk 10:18 Can Whites be acceptably offensive? Don’t mess with r-word strength 15:01 Charla was a school SNITCH + “I SAVED LIVES” 18:16 Self-snitching is dangerous + Diary of a CEO title is crazy 20:48 The Pope is back, baby! Can you catch gay? 27:11 Finger test + everyone’s gay = be who you are 31:15 The new F-word + Starbucks makes you strictly sickly 32:43 Every side using Charla + Dems doesn’t create narratives 39:19 Campaign on student loans + impact ordinary people 49:23 Over for Ye? Diddy using God + Don’t talk about it, be about it 58:23 Dinos were gay so God punished them 1:00:38 Social media is dangerous + our memory is limited 1:08:59 Bring back stories of Hell + what unites Americans? 1:11:19 Nuclear war abyss, regime change justifiable + Iran PM was inside job? 1:21:25 Does American industry need Putin? 1:25:20 We faking nukes? D-jokes setups + we live in the best times 1:28:49 If you’re gonna sell out - do it properly at least 1:32:31 Do your googles + Nicki Minaj arrest 1:34:56 If you could grift, what would you choose? 1:38:51 Diddy, avoiding real issues, gay smokescreen & power lust 1:47:39 Carl Winslow got worn out? + Shoutout to 50 Cent 1:53:18 Charla’s “Grippy” + AI is scary 1:58:25 Scarlett Johansson issue with OpenAI’s voice 2:00:53 Lawsuits aren’t cheap, Diddy’s chutzpah + “I’m a savage” 2:06:51 How does Charla check himself? 2:08:38 Charla’s ayahuasca experience + easy to criticise others, not look at yourself 2:11:30 Charla taking mental health so seriously + Panic Attack Sunday 2:14:53 People’s addiction to attention 2:15:54 How many more years of the Breakfast Club?
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What do white people do when the question or the thing they're thinking about could be offensive?
Probably keep it to yourself.
There's only a couple of white people that can do that.
Andrew, Joe Rogan, maybe Theo Vaughn because he gives off autistic.
So like I did a diary of CEOs.
Oh man, the title was crazy.
Crazy?
What the f***?
A woman molested me as a kid. I cheated on my soulmate.
Look at that thumbnail though. Look at this.
I'm nailed down.
This is crazy.
It is wild that I'm not afraid,
I can't be afraid of like somebody putting a in my ass.
Wait, hold on.
That would just, why wouldn't I?
I think there are a lot of people that are afraid
that they'll catch gang.
Nobody knows for a fact you can't catch.
Brother, ew.
I do have a friend that I do believe actually caught it.
Talk to us!
He did mushrooms.
He started watching trans porn.
And then he started hooking up with dudes.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he stopped hooking up with dudes
after like six months.
He was like, I'm not gay anymore.
What do you mean with trans women, though?
No, no, then he just started hooking up with full dudes.
No, don't start with that.
Oh, OK, OK, OK.
He didn't want no cut on it no more.
Yeah, exactly.
He wanted the pure.
He wanted the pure.
He wanted that.
He wanted that.
He wanted it.
Alex found out I'm a civil rights hero.
Let's talk about it.
No, we don't have to talk about it on air.
It seems braggadocious.
Off air, I think, was more appropriate.
No, so you just had to say it right now.
No, off air.
I don't want to talk.
Are we recording?
I don't want to talk about it on air.
Off air, we can talk about I'm a civil rights hero abroad.
It's not a story for me to tell.
I would never say something like this. What happened? Who knows the story? Alex hit me. Are we recording? I'm a civil rights hero abroad. It's not a story for me to tell. I would never share something like this.
What happened?
Who knows the story?
Alex hit me.
Are we recording?
I don't want to waste this.
Yes, we're recording.
Okay.
Oh, we're recording.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
What a coincidence.
Oh, so I'll wait.
I'll tell it after.
Yeah, yeah.
You can tell it after.
But if you guys want to know, no, I was in Columbia this past week.
Which Columbia?
Here's at the protest.
Here's at the protest.
Okay.
Maryland? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was there with a good friend of mine. He's from there, but
pees back and forth here and there.
He's starting a concierge business.
And so he was showing us around and it was like
it was amazing.
And then he talked about the time that Schultz went there a couple years ago
and he was like, oh man,
Schultz is such a good dude. I always remember
Schultz was looking to buy his wife a ring
or a pearl or something like that.
And he was going into-
Emerald, yeah.
Oh, emerald, yeah.
He was going into this jewelry store.
And the concierge service also comes with security
to make sure you're good 24 seven.
And the security's darker skin.
They wouldn't let the security guy in the jewelry store.
And Schultz was like, well, you guys just missed out on whatever amount of money
he was going to pay for this ring because I'm not going in if he can't go in.
G's up, dude. G's up.
That has nothing to do with race. That has nothing to do with safety.
He was like, I'm not going in that door.
No, it was safe in there.
Yeah, in the store is safe.
When he comes out, the security's still there.
And then I thought, I was like, damn, if he just did that with me in Sweden.
You were acting up, though.
It's never enough.
You were acting up.
It's never enough.
You were fighting.
Yeah, exactly.
You're lucky he didn't leave you.
No, I just stood my ground.
No, no, no.
They should understand that.
No, no, no.
No one else feels that way.
You know, Zimmerman says the same thing, I just stood my ground.
That's his point.
Be careful about that.
That's his point.
What are you missing the whole joke?
That's why I laughed like a fucking idiot.
Oh, I can roll with a joke.
I'm being serious.
I thought you were laughing because you were uncomfortable.
Okay, wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait, wait, wait.
I just want to clarify.
The reason why I didn't want to offer this store my business is because I had asked the security guard who happened to be black.
If when we went in to buy the emeralds, while I was distracting them, if he could steal some.
That's right. And they picked up on it.ds while I was distracting them if he could steal some. That's right.
And they picked up on it
and then I just accused them of being racist,
which I learned from Black Crack.
Remember, you know,
when you guys are planning to rob a store
and then the white people are like,
hey, why are you going to rob?
Why are you racist?
What's crazy,
one of the security guard
already hit that place before.
So they was like, no, not him.
He's already been hit.
They got a sign on the window.
They're like, we fucking got you.
So you just assumed they was racist just because of the guy had darker skin?
I did, bro.
Damn.
Well, not me.
Your boy did.
No, I did.
Yeah, I did too.
Yeah, I did.
I thought they weren't letting him in.
I don't believe this story.
Why?
Why not?
Okay.
This actually happened?
Maybe I just didn't want to buy a fucking stupid ring for my wife.
Have you ever thought about that?
And I used their racism to my advantage.
Smart.
It saved a lot of money.
That's it.
Oh, that's so smart.
My wife doesn't need an emerald.
Okay.
Because she got a diamond now, which is more expensive.
Talk my shit.
Talk my shit, Sharla.
Talk my shit, okay?
We got Charlamagne Tha God and the motherfuckers.
Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr. New book out now. Charlotte took my shit, okay? We got Charlamagne Tha God and the Mother of God.
New book out now.
Go cop it.
Get Honest, a guideline why small talk sucks, baby.
My third book, my third literary baby.
You know what's funny is that small talk specifically is something I'm so horrible at.
It's unbelievable.
Because you don't have time for it.
Well, yeah, explain. We've talked about this before, but you have a good theory about why it is.
I never knew that I didn't like small talk
until our discussion, by the way. Because you like
macro conversations. Okay.
You're the type of person, Andrew comes in
hot. Whether it's in the group chat,
whether it's on the podcast, whether it's
on the stage, you want to get
right to it. We don't have time for the
pleasantries, the hi. I mean, hi's greetings are. We don't have time for the pleasantries,
the hi.
I mean, hi's,
greetings are cool.
But it's like,
then let's get into it.
Then let's get into it. I feel anxiety
when we're not getting into it.
Yes, because we,
because you know,
like why are we eating appetizers?
We're hungry.
This is so funny.
We want the meat.
You know what I'm saying?
Pause.
Bring the actual entree
to the table.
Let's talk about it.
It's like everybody's
just circling each other
waiting to see
who's going to say what first.
Who's going to set it off.
I wonder if this is why
we got along
like even so many years ago
because I remember
like you would walk into a room
and you would just drop some shit.
Let's go.
And then people
would sometimes react like,
oh my God, what's going on?
And I would be relieved
because I'd be like,
finally,
this fake bullshit
that we've got going on right here is done.
Somebody said something that we all have to react to.
That's right.
And we either react to it by trying to ignore it, and then you get to call that person out by being fake.
That's right.
Or that person just opened a floodgates, and now we're laying in.
And everybody knows when you're doing it.
Everybody knows when everybody's bullshitting each other.
Do they?
Are there people?
I absolutely believe that they know.
But what also this book does,
it gives you permission
to not even have the big talk
if you don't want to.
Okay, so how do you tap out of that?
Just simply say,
I don't want to talk about this right now.
Well, I then, when you do that,
I go further.
Yeah.
When it comes to conversation,
no does not mean no.
But that's true, though.
I'm the same way, sadly, right?
But then it's like,
yo, you got to respect
people's boundaries too.
But also,
just tell people
I don't want to talk
about this right now.
You're a big ass asshole
because you're like
the nicest guy
when you walk in a room.
You'll walk up to
every single person
in the room
and make them all
feel comfortable.
And then you'll be like,
how much you paying taxes
last year?
I need it once.
Oh yeah.
I don't need to
captivate the whole room.
When Shala walks in the room, I'm like, please don't be me.
Don't be me.
Don't target somebody.
That's it.
All you need is one.
Because once you get that one person in conversation, everybody's going to be like, what's so funny
about it?
What's so interesting over there?
The next thing you know, they all start coming on over.
And it's like, yeah, yeah.
Now we're about to have a party.
Okay?
It's like, you ever see someone with autism doing that rock?
Jewish people?
I feel like...
That's so funny because I do have a joke about how Judaism and autism are the closest thing.
Because when Jews pray, they're doing this.
And when autistic people are just trying to hold back something, they're doing this.
But that's what I feel like is going on in your head, right?
Like in your head, I feel like when you're in that moment
where everybody's bullshitting, I feel like you just rock it.
That's right.
You're like, okay, who's gonna say it?
That's right.
And Diddy.
And by the way, you know who knows that better
than anybody, my wife.
Wait, why?
My wife would just be like, here you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She would be like, I could say one thing,
she'd be like, here you go.
Here you go. But it's like, yo, I could say one thing, she'd be like, here you go. Here you go.
Here you go.
But it's like, yo, I don't like it.
Let's just have the conversation.
Let's talk.
What I'm trying to say is most people, okay, most people do small talk because they're anxious.
Most people do small talk because they don't have anything, because they're anxious and because they really don't have anything to say.
For sure, for sure.
But I also assume that it's inspired by, they just, they don't want to rock the boat they want everybody to get along they want everything
to just be fine in this moment they have some anxiety but i feel like we don't like small talk
because it makes us anxious yes because i know that y'all actually want to be talking about
something bigger especially us because we're public figures and people hear us talk about
things or they've heard us say something on the radio. I heard to say something a podcast
They've been waiting who knows how long to have this conversation with us now sometimes because I'm an asshole
I'll stall you out. Okay, go meaning I'll just keep talking about everything else
Everything else here just because I know
The joy is gonna bring you to talk about whatever it is
you know what i really love when you edging them edging them edging and they'd be like
yeah so what do you think about did it and yo you know what else is crazy yo
yo did you see what's going on outside just because you just keep pushing it off
pushing it off pushing it off we're gonna talk about this when I'm ready to talk about it. Not when you're
ready to talk about it.
Do you remember, so it was like the day or two before my wedding, and this is how
I know I've cultivated a good group of people from young to old. It was the day before my
wedding, you had that moment with Kamala. Do you remember that?
Yes.
The day before, yeah, the day before, yep.
This guy was getting drone struck on the way into the wedding. People weren't even
beating, there was no like, hey, how you doing?
They knew exactly who he was.
Old and young walking up.
Hey, I like what you did with Kamala.
It was straight, no small talk.
Yeah, yeah.
Whispering to you, MAGA.
Like, oh.
That's how we converted them.
Hell MAGA.
Like, what?
Huh?
But no, yes.
But I like that too, because that also, when you walk into a room full of people that you may not know, it makes it easier to just open up conversation.
Oh, it's so much better.
Let's go.
Because they have something they want to talk to you about.
So once again, there's no small talk.
What do white people do when they don't want to have small talk, but the question or the thing they're thinking about
could be offensive, what would you suggest to them?
I would say, depends, I would find somebody that you trust, or you think you can trust.
But what if they're not there? White person in a room full of black people.
Probably keep it to yourself.
So you're saying just do a small talk? What if they need, what if? What if they're like, why are you guys responsible for half of the murder?
If you think it's going to go wrong, just don't even bring it up.
But you can't.
You start rocking.
You're getting the rock.
They're getting the rock.
They're like a white you.
What would you do?
Nah, you can't.
See, that's the privilege of being black.
Oh, so you guys just get to say. There's only a couple of. What would you do? Nah, you can't. You're not. See, that's the privilege of being black.
Oh, so you guys just get to say-
There's only a couple of white people that can do that.
Andrew, Joe Rogan, maybe Theo Vaughn because he gives off autistic.
You know what I'm saying?
No, just because he gives it off-
He doesn't pretend to be retarded.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Because they'll just laugh.
They'll be like, ah, he's so great.
Is that why all these celebrities are pretending they're retarded now, so they can get away
with saying things?
Do you have an excuse? Maybe. Yeah, she was hysterical. Because they'll just laugh. They'll be like, ah! Is that why all these celebrities are pretending they're retarded now?
So they can get away with saying things?
You have an excuse.
Maybe.
I mean, I think you're probably a little, you know.
I was in the slow class for real, though.
No.
I was.
No, I mean emotionally retarded.
I don't mean, you're one of the smartest people I've ever met,
but emotionally, you got a little Asperger.
But I failed a standardized test,
and I was in one of those classes for like a semester.
Really?
Yeah, absolutely. I was in the class with the people I used to tease
Retardation doesn't work just for summer
And they put me in this class with kids who had other learning disabilities tell me what did you learn from that?
They strong
This one kid so much.
His name, I don't even want to say his name because he, who knows?
He's gotten stronger now.
He might not even be Flo no more.
You know what I'm saying?
It might have just been a high school kid.
That's right.
He'll pull up.
Right?
Well, we used to call him Peter Pan.
Why?
Because whenever you went up to him and whispered, Peter Pan is dead, he would lose his shit.
I mean, Peter Pan is not dead! He would go crazy. So we'd call him Peter Pan is dead. He would lose his shit. I mean, Peter Pan is not dead!
He would go crazy.
So we called him Peter Pan.
So we was in chorus class and we were singing
like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
and I changed it to like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindog.
He'd lose his fucking,
it's deer you fucking idiot!
It's deer!
So when I ended up in the class with this kid, right?
Even though I really felt bad for myself, right? Cause I'm in this class, I'm like, what the class with this kid, right? Even though I really felt bad for myself, right?
Because I'm in this class.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on, right?
Because you're not retarded.
No.
You're in a retarded class.
You're brilliant.
Your mom is a teacher.
Yes.
So they would have these kids at the computer.
We'd be sitting at the desk.
So it's like my desk.
They let the retards play with the computers?
Yeah.
Would they just start?
It was like Oregon Trail, man.
It wasn't plugged in, don't worry.
By the way, I don't know what they were doing on the computers.
I just remember they used to be on the computers.
And so I'm sitting behind him, and he's typing,
and I'm just whispering to him, going crazy.
And he's losing his mind, but I'm acting like I'm not doing nothing, right?
So I'm just looking around like, yo, what's up?
And the teacher's like, what's wrong?
Like, he's talking to the kid.
What's wrong?
What's wrong?
And he goes goes it's Larry
McKenzie the big nose idiot like holy shit wait what race is this guy to call you a big idiot
yeah that feels a little way but for him he might be too retarded I didn't even know he knew my name
right so not only did he say my full name yeah he hit me with a joke that everybody used to hit me
with in school no. I was bulky nose
Yeah, but no racism. It was pure. It's right you right right if you're like a race person
That's your moment where you're your boiling point you drop the word you're right, but he just called you a big nose
He knows he's a pure kind. Oh, you bullied a pure kind soul. How dare you big nose nigga would it hit though?
Racist retarded is crazy, but that would have hit though. Now I'm saying, racist retarded is crazy,
but that would have hit crazy
in that moment.
That would have hit kind of crazy.
Can you accuse a retarded person of racism?
No.
Nah, you can't, right?
Well, you can try.
But no, that's not going to stick.
Yeah, it's not going to stick.
They have more struggle than you,
so they're fine.
They have immunity.
You think so?
Most things.
Yeah.
I mean, wow.
If you got called the N-word by a retarded person.
You deserved it.
You kind of deserved it.
Like, what the fuck were you doing?
By the way, everything I did to those kids back then, all of the jokes, everything I got, I deserved it.
Really?
What did you get?
The success, millions of dollars.
Yeah, that's got to be one of that.
Everything that I've got in my life has karma
for bullying retarded people.
Houses all around the world.
Vacations in a villa.
I deserved all this success.
He's like a vampire.
I'm talking about back then, man.
I remember when I was writing for your show on MTV2,
you told a story that stuck with me for years.
What was it?
Where there was a kid.
You guys were like doing some real thug type shit.
And this kid was not, but he was trying to fit in with you all.
Said he had a gun.
You had him bring the gun to school,
then reported him to the cops.
And then watched him get arrested and ruined his life.
That story haunts me.
It haunts me to this day.
I don't know if I ruined his life.
You can't be bringing guns to school, yo. I feel like I I ruined his life. You can't be bringing guns to school, yo.
I feel like I did my civic duty.
You can't be bringing guns to school, yo.
You shouldn't have been bringing guns to school.
You might have saved a life.
Exactly.
No, you stopped the school shooting.
Exactly.
Why does this kid got a gun?
Why do you have a gun at school, bro?
Yo, thank you.
That's good.
Why would you show me this on the way to school?
A retarded kid with a gun.
Yeah.
I don't even know if you were retarded.
Why would you have a gun?
I was dead.
Yeah, no.
OK, OK. When they put you back in the regular class
was there an acknowledgement from the teachers were they ever like yo that was our bad yo
you're not as retarded no i failed the standard honest test i never got on track in high school
ever what do you mean like i never got on track like i failed i failed you were slow in more ways
i failed seventh and eighth grade,
had to go to summer school.
Ninth grade, I failed.
My dad was like, fuck that, made me stay back.
So I never got on track.
I graduated in ninth school.
Really?
Yeah, so ninth and tenth grade.
Ninth and tenth grade was the farthest I got
in high school.
Holy shit.
So you got like a GD.
And I got kicked out of one school.
I got kicked out of Berkeley High School.
And then I was in Stratford High School
and I got arrested out of one school. I got kicked out of Berkeley High School. And then I was in Scrafford High School. And I got arrested from Scrafford and did 45 days in jail.
At what age?
Ooh, I don't know, 16, 17?
Did you see that kid that you reported for bringing the gun into school?
No.
Did you guys cross paths at all?
I don't know which guy you're talking about.
Because it was more than one.
All right.
Guns, weed. You got like $100 for a gun,
maybe $1.50.
Oh, wait a minute.
And you got like a guy like you.
You think I would do it for no reason?
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
You think I was doing it for no fucking reason?
That's crazy.
That's entrapment.
I know.
What you mean?
That's crazy.
But you can't convince them to come and score the gun.
No, I didn't convince them.
It was just a reward.
They used to reward you.
They used to say,
hey, if you see...
So they collected the money
washed from the roof
and he got arrested laughing.
If you see something,
say something.
Yeah, I like that.
So, hey,
he got weed on him.
I feel like you looking at me
saying that was a little racist.
You see something,
say something,
make a direct eye contact
for the first time
in the whole podcast?
What's that about?
No.
It was just a thing.
Like, I did my civic duty.
And it was for all the wrong reasons.
It was for all the wrong reasons because I was only doing it for the money.
But who knows how many lives I made?
You might have saved a lot of lives.
Who knows how many lives I made?
You're a fucking hero.
Yo, even turning people in for weed.
Weed is a gateway drug.
Okay?
What if those people would have thought of smoking weed in high school and went on to stronger things?
That's true.
I saved lives, bro.
Yeah.
Gateway to what? The prison industrial complex?
Yeah.
Crack!
That is amazing.
Which you sold?
I know.
You're worried about the little things, bro. You're worried about micro.
We're supposed to be talking about macro. We're supposed to be talking about micro.
Let's talk about macro.
Macro.
No more small talk. No more small talk.
No more small talk, bro.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Do you ever look back at shit that you shared about yourself?
Like, remember when you do like the runs in the beginning saying who you are?
Oh my God.
Do you ever look back at those things and be like, I should have small talked?
Yeah.
I was having a panic attack this weekend thinking about that shit, yo.
Because just like putting out a book i
don't know i don't know how it feels like when y'all do y'all comedy right but when you put
something out to the world yeah yeah and you know everybody is going through it in that moment with
a fine two cup like i was sitting at home like yo it's mad people reading this book right now
yo should i have said shared this should i have yeah and, you know, I did mad book signings last week.
So people were coming with both my books.
And I'm like, all three of my books.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
And kind of with a book, the thing that gets the most publicity is the most vulnerable person.
That's what the media is going to pass around.
Charlamagne in his new book said X, Y, Z.
Absolutely.
And we live in an era where people take everything.
I don't want to say out of context, but they just put things through their lens and their filter. Basically, they put things through the lens of what they know is going to get
their website the most clicks, the most engagement. So I did a diary of the CEO this week.
The man's title was crazy.
Crazy? What the fuck? I'm sorry for myself. I was like Wait, don't say it. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm sorry for myself.
I was like, I've been telling this story for years.
I ain't never seen this shit work.
And I felt so bad because I told you to go in there.
That's what it says.
I was like, damn, they set this thing up.
Charlamagne Tha God.
A woman molested me as a kid.
I cheated on my soulmate.
What the fuck?
Bro.
What the fuck? Who. What the fuck?
Who's clicking that?
Bro, I don't know.
That makes it seem like
your soulmate is a person
that molested you.
It's really crazy
putting those back to back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's really crazy.
This shit, bro.
A woman molested me
is a good exclamation point.
That's the worst part.
Why is there excitement
around this?
A woman is a molester.
Is it good?
Say it how you...
Say it how you...
Did you hear how I saw that?
This shit is an hour and a half long.
You've heard me tell this story a million times.
I've written about it in my books.
Look at that thumbnail, though.
This is crazy.
That shit...
I'm not going to lie, though.
Has your wife seen that thumbnail? I don't think so. I hope not. That shit was crazy. That shit. Bro, I said I should have. I'm not gonna lie, yo. Has your wife seen that thumbnail?
I don't think so.
I hope not.
That shit was crazy.
I felt so bad because I told him to go on that show, too.
But is that story even in this book?
That was from old books.
I mean, no, no, no, no.
I do because I talk about, in this book,
I talk about my father telling me about how,
and when I confronted him about cheating on my mom,
and he was like, you only got one girlfriend?
Yeah.
So that's for me. Yo, can I just say, about cheating on my mom, and he was like, you only got one girlfriend? Yeah. So that's what it is.
Yo, can I just say, that's an all-time response.
Yeah, it's really unbelievable.
Charlemagne goes to his dad and confronts him for cheating on his mom,
and his dad looks back at Charlemagne and goes, what are you, gay?
You only got one.
Nah, nah, this is the 90s.
He didn't say gay.
He didn't water his pants.
He's acting like the Pope.
Oh my God.
Did you see that?
That's true.
Yo,
Mark hits me up last night late.
He goes,
Catholicism is back.
Damn.
It's up.
The boys are back,
bro.
But that's how you get away.
Define Catholicism for me.
What is that?
Catholic.
Christians.
Oh,
okay,
okay.
I feel like I got one of those.
Yeah.
What is it?
Like all
Why is it back?
Because they used to use gay slurs?
I mean Catholicism was like
Running the world for a long time
And it kind of lost influence
Oh
But also
This Pope got real soft
He got really
And the Pope got soft
And he kind of got weird
I know that you don't want Catholics
To be homophobic or whatever
At the same time
If they all were homophobic
They would stop molesting the boys.
So in a way,
Catholic homophobia
makes it safer
for altar boys.
That's true.
Chew on that.
Maybe that's why
he's doing it.
Chew on that.
That's what they told
the altar boys.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh.
I think homophobia
within Catholicism
is the best possible thing
right now for the safety
of young boys.
It's essential.
It should be mandatory. For the safety of young boys. I care for the safety of young boys. It's essential. It should be mandatory.
For the safety of young boys.
I care about the safety of young boys.
Most people that are, like, closeted
act like that towards gay people anyway.
Yeah, but...
Most people that are closeted act homophobic.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they're just ashamed about being gay.
Yeah, but you can also just be homophobic, can't you?
You know what I mean?
Sometimes that's just...
I don't know any real homophobic people, yo.
I am.
I don't know real ones. Like, I know people who get know any real homophobic people yo I am I don't know
I don't know real ones
like I know people
who get accused
of being homophobic
I don't know people
that are like
I hate gay people
I don't like the lifestyle
what about people
because even the religious folks
mask it under the guise
of religion
I don't
no no no
I don't
even the religious people
mask it under the guise
of religion
did you just like
stop hanging out
with all your black friends
or what happened
we've never been homophobic.
We just like to,
they use the F word
for people that aren't gay.
I actually think it is homophobia
in the terms of like the fear of it.
Like I think,
I think,
that's fair.
I think there are a lot of people
that are afraid
that they'll catch a game.
I grew up in the South.
That's a thing.
There's this guy that I watch.
He's on TikTok, right?
He's a Spanish dude.
Okay.
I don't know.
He's Puerto Rican or whatever.
He's on Instagram. I don't know what, I wish I had his name as shout out. This is nonsense. Thisok right he's a spanish dude okay i don't know he's puerto rican or whatever he's on instagram i don't know what i wish i had his name is shadow this is nonsense this is he does one game he's in a mall and he goes uh he goes he goes do you speak english or
spanish and then the person that he stops or the people he stops go uh english for example he goes
the first person that moves is gay and then they just sit there for a minute on tiktok every time it's black people
he goes up to you guys do you speak english or spanish they go english and he goes the first
person that moves is gay and the black people just go no i had a dude i remember i was 25 and
he had a gay roommate or i was 24 and he was 25 or something like that and he was like no i had a dude i remember i was 25 and he had a gay roommate or i was 24 and he was 25 or something
like that and he was like no i'm not tripping off that shit no more once i found out you couldn't
catch that shit i said it's no big deal i was like dog you are in your mid-20s what the fuck
is happening well by the way why don't people act like as a man why do we know we can't catch it i
think that's more important i don't know nobody knows for a fact you can't catch i don't think
it's contagious right i'm not saying it's contagious's... Nobody knows for a fact you can't catch it. I don't think it's contagious. Right?
I'm not saying it's contagious,
but like...
I do have a friend
that I do believe
actually caught it.
Talk to us!
He did mushrooms
and he was watching porn
on the internet
and he started watching trans porn.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he started
hooking up with dudes.
Rewired his whole brain.
And then he stopped
hooking up with dudes
after like six months.
He was like,
I'm not gay anymore.
Can I...
No.
That's not gay.
Your friend is gay.
Yeah, you're right.
Not anymore, not anymore.
What do you mean
with trans women though?
No, no, no.
Then he just started
hooking up with full dudes.
Oh, don't start with that.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
He didn't want no cut on it no more.
Yeah, exactly.
He wanted the pure.
He wanted the pure.
Pure.
He wanted that pure D.
Okay.
Yo!
Put the baking soda in the cup.
That's the cut. That's the cut. No baby laxative. Just straight up. Put the baking soda in the cup. I respect it.
That's the cut.
That's the cut. No, baby, go get the pure D.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pure D.
I ain't mad at it.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but this is why I think you can't catch gay, and I'll be honest with you.
I have a friend who is married to an identical twin, okay?
You guys have all met her.
Her husband has an identical twin that means their genetic makeup
is identical so there's a man out there that looks just like her no no no it looks just she's married
her husband has an identical twin oh got you got you got you got and the her husband is obviously
straight they have children straight oh her Her husband's brother is an identical twin, all the same genetic material.
100% genetic match.
Is gay.
Okay.
So he caught it.
He has to have caught it.
Caught what?
Gay!
A good time?
Because that's all it was.
You caught a good time.
You were attracted to somebody.
No, no, no.
You slept with him.
I understand what he's saying.
He's saying if one person is gay and one person is straight,
and they are 100% genetic match
down to every fucking elite.
It's not the genetics.
Then that person may not.
It's the vaccine.
It's the vaccine.
She's a beard.
It's the vaccine.
She's a beard.
Oh, they're both gay?
There's gotta be scientific studies about...
I'm sorry, sir.
There are scientific studies.
You could catch it.
There's gotta be scientific studies about what you're attracted to and why, right?
No.
It's not?
Really?
It's got to be.
It's got to be.
It's got to be.
No.
It's got to be a scientific study.
Why would anybody do that?
That shit is gay, bro.
You going to be studying gay all day?
That's fucking gay.
It is crazy that we can't.
We just want to do that.
I'm not, it is wild that I'm not afraid, I can't be afraid of like somebody putting a dick in my ass.
Wait, hold on.
That wouldn't, why wouldn't, I'm not gonna.
I see what he's saying.
You know what I'm saying?
He's saying homophobia is not the craziest thing.
I'm talking about the pain of it.
Yeah, the pain of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When Lil' Kim, when Lil' Kim said, I used to be scared of the dick, now I throw lips to the shit.
There had to be a point in Bottom's life where Bottom was like, I was scared of that dick, even though I was attracted to it.
Yeah.
But then when they started taking that shit, they weren't afraid no more.
So there has to be an initial fear.
So was that Bottom homophobic?
He was.
Initially?
Probably.
Initially, yeah.
Probably.
Homophobia is probably the wrong term.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't know people who hate gay people.
If you can't catch it, I think that's the right term, though.
If we do determine that you can catch gay,
meaning that there are environmental factors
that could affect you and you become gay.
Have you ever heard of the finger test?
Have you ever heard of the finger test?
If two of your fingers are in a guy's ass, you're gay.
Just you?
Apparently, this is a thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Have you seen this?
I've been taking a hammer to my pointer finger ever since I saw that shit.
What the fuck?
What the fuck?
Am I reading this shit?
I want people out there that's watching this, I know that there's people who hate gay people.
I just don't know any, is what I'm saying.
Got you.
Look how straight my hand is.
Wait, wait.
Yo, the funniest thing, can I say the funniest thing about this test is it forces you to
be like this.
What is that, when you wipe?
No.
You don't put an extra finger on your wipe.
Why are you giving yourself prostate tests, bro?
If your pointer finger is longer than your ring finger, you get.
Oh, shit.
I'm sitting here thinking.
You're straight, bro.
You're straight.
You're good.
You're straight.
No, no, no.
This is not accurate.
Whoa.
Al, let me see you.
Are you saying the guy?
Don't you say that.
The guy who's nails are fake, dude.
The guy's nails are fake, dude. Al, throw your suit up.
The guy whose nails are fake, dude.
Hold on, what the fuck?
There's nothing scientific.
Yo, Al!
That's true.
So hold on, what is it now?
She ho!
If your ring finger's longer than your index finger?
You're straight, man.
Oh, he's gay too?
You're straight.
No, he's straight.
If this one is longer, he's straight.
I'm going to be honest.
This is my index.
I barely made it, and that checks out.
No, look.
If the ring finger is longer, you're gay.
Nah. My ring finger ain't longer. No. Oh, wait. If the right finger is longer, you're gay. Nah.
My right finger ain't longer.
No.
Wait, I didn't...
My right finger is not longer.
This might be for women.
This might be for women.
Oh, wait, if this is backwards,
then we good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is absolutely scientific.
This is for women.
It's backwards for men.
Yeah, y'all got a little scared.
Why were you so defensive?
Why were you so defensive, bro?
I wasn't scared.
I knew.
Because I take it so...
I've been doing these things
so defensively.
Everybody's a little gay, bro.
Yo, Charlotte, stop. Stop. bro. Yo, Sharla, stop.
Stop.
Stop.
Cut it out.
Just stop.
Everybody's not.
What's the gayest thing you ever did?
Wipe my ass.
No, no, drink water.
Why does him drink water?
Yo, he drinks water from the back.
Listen.
What's up with that?
What's up with that?
Bro, I saw him really, he's spitting the water
before he drank it.
Bro, I had these conversations on Idiots before.
Masturbation is gay. Mm-hmm. You sitting at home jacking off, looking in the mirror. you drank it. Bro, you had these conversations on idiots before. Masturbation is gay.
You sitting at home jacking off, looking in the mirror.
The mirror is crazy.
Why is that?
You added a whole wrinkle to that.
I never looked in the mirror.
That's gay.
No, you right.
That's gay.
You looked down at yourself.
You have done that.
You know what I'm saying?
You shot it up in the air, tried to catch it.
And I just laughed.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
John.
Hold on. You never caught it in your bag like that Nike commercial?
No, God damn. You're a different type of person if you do some shit like that.
Wiping your ass? Why is that gay?
It is! How do you wipe your ass?
It's a man's hand in your ass.
But that's unnecessary.
How deep are you going in?
Going in the hole?
Why not?
That's weird. Are you going back to front?
Are you going back to front?
Are you going back to front?
Because you're definitely, yeah.
Oh, no, no.
You go the other direction.
You go, you bend over.
Why did you sniff?
This guy doesn't know how to react.
I just got to make sure, dog.
I just got to make sure I'm not bleeding.
I think everybody got about this much, this much gay in them.
I believe that.
What does that mean?
I believe that.
Tell me what that means.
What, this much gay?
Yeah, yeah.
It's that Kinsey scale shit.
The Kinsey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually think that people who protest too much, they're going to be like, oh, I'm gay. I'm gay. does that mean? I believe that. Tell me what that means. What, this much gay?
Yeah, yeah.
Is that Kinsey scale shit?
The Kinsey, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually think that people
who protest too much
are like,
ugh, something happened to you, bro.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
In general.
Yeah, like, why are you so,
like, why do you have to prove
that you straight so bad?
You know what I'm saying?
Some people would say
because being gay is gross.
I didn't say that. Who would say that? Some people would say because being gay is gross. I didn't say that.
Who would say that?
Some people would say that.
Who would say that?
To the Pope or...
Hey, hey, hey, Charlie.
Charlie.
Other guys like the Pope, basically.
Hey, Charlie, man, get honest or die lying.
Get honest or die lying on your stomach.
Exactly.
Okay?
All right?
But this is what this is about.
It's okay to be who you are.
Be who you are.
It's fun to be who you are in 2024.
Unless you're homophobic and then you have to fake it.
That's true.
I don't think people are faking it no more.
You think they're out there in the open with it?
Clearly.
But none of them know what it is.
If the Pope has decided to throw an F word around like it's nothing.
He said it in Italian.
It was different.
He said it in Italian.
Dude, the Italian word for it is...
Faciale.
No, something like that.
Actually, I don't know how to pronounce it.
Let me find it.
I think it's fragocini.
Oh, yeah.
What is it?
It's froccijone.
Froccijone.
Because frocci means gay.
I thought frocci was a drink.
Whoa.
Don't they serve frocci at Starbucks?
Froccijone.
What is a frocci?
That's how you say it in like derogatory ways.
So you say it.
I'm not tripping, right?
Yeah, frocci was a drink.
Froccij Yeah. Hold up.
So Starbucks is homophobic.
We know that.
We know that.
What?
We've known that about Starbucks.
So hold up.
Starbucks is out here
serving drinks
that are Italian gay slurs.
Yeah.
And nobody says anything.
You never had a double venti?
With extra cream.
And a long straw.
Yo, that is gay.
If you choose a long straw for a short drink, you gay.
Let's just call that out right now.
If you choose the long, because it's even wider, for a small drink at Starbucks, you are homosexual.
That's facts.
That is a fact.
Can we write a law about that?
Shout out to the LGBTQ community, man.
What are you about to show me, Mark?
This shit froze really quick.
Hang on.
Look at you.
You're all bricked up.
Yeah.
I'm a little bit, you know.
He's like, I'm about to get my venti-frag-machina right now.
Okay.
So, Charlamagne, how is...
Kosh had to leave the room.
He got so bricked up.
He got, he got, he got.
That's crazy.
He's like, that's why my finger's longer.
I need to try this one.
All right, so, Charlamagneagne how is the media going to uh use
everything that you've said uh to benefit whatever platform they are they're on well
it's been interesting is that stressful knowing that like have you guys seen this i should like
put context so obviously i'm very but like charlamagne will be used by every side of the
media to prove whatever their agenda is.
So is there a new stress that comes with that now?
No, you know, here's the thing.
The right does a phenomenal job of pushing their narratives.
Whatever their narrative is, you know, like for the past few months, it's been, you know, black people are moving away from Democrats.
Donald Trump has like what, 22% of black people say right now they'll vote for Donald Trump. I think
that's a little overstated. But they're
anything that pushes that narrative
they're for it. So
and it's been like this probably for the past
eight, nine months. So if I'm critical of the Democratic
Party. They lock in.
Regardless of anything else I say about Trump
they lock in on that. Do you think Fox
has assigned a person to your
media?
Meaning it's just,
it's an intern and it's their job
to find a cool...
That's a good question.
It's so targeted.
I'm really an idiots fan probably.
Yo, low key, I wonder.
That's a good question.
Because it's like...
I think so,
because it happens the same day.
It's the era we live in too though.
But here's the thing
that was so interesting about that.
I don't think Fox
is checking Breakfast Club all the time.
I think so.
Really?
I mean, it depends who's on it.
I think it's not like this out of the ordinary, right?
It's like when we have political guests on, right?
And we do do a segment every morning called Front Page News.
So you kind of just got to tune into that to hear what the political takes are for the most part.
But I think what's interesting is the left never finds a way to
create its own narratives the left just responds to whatever the right puts out there and it calls
them racist or sexist yes or calls me a MAGA supporter or whatever so i could literally say
in the same sentence this happened on john carl show i can say donald trump was a threat to
democracy you know he wanted to suspend the constitution over the results of an election
but joe biden's an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy fox don't give a fuck about Donald Trump was a threat to democracy. You know, he wanted to suspend the Constitution and overthrow the results of an election.
But Joe Biden's an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy.
Fox don't give a fuck about that first part.
That second part.
Give me that.
This is what I want.
I want the uninspiring candidate, main character energy.
And so everybody on the left replies to that
as if I didn't just say this other stuff about Trump.
It's the strangest thing in the world.
But what I'm realizing is, especially after the...
I knew this already, but this week showed me a lot.
Because all the different type of press, like I did The View, I did like CBS This Morning, Miguel King.
That clip was crazy, dog.
That View clip, you handled it incredibly well.
I don't know what they wanted me to say.
Can you give context to the clip for everybody?
Well, yes, I said that I'm not endorsing anybody for president this year.
And, you know, Sonny from The View basically was like, it was irresponsible of me to do that.
And she said, this isn't the time to sit this out.
This ain't the election to sit out.
I never said I was sitting out.
Never once have I said I'm sitting out.
Never once have I said I'm not voting.
None of these things have happened.
All I'm simply doing is being critical of both parties.
But you should.
And my interest this year is, one of both parties but you should and my
interest this year is one of my interests is preserving democracy right so i'm gonna vote
for whoever i think can preserve you know uh democracy but the democratic candidates are so
weak that their only hope is vote against it's so silly that's all they have but but you know i say
i've told other personalities in media that y'all spend so much time talking, talking about how bad Trump is.
You never tell me what you are.
Things that Biden is doing.
Do it.
And then you wonder why people say, well, what the hell is Joe Biden doing?
What the hell is Vice President Harris doing?
Very true.
I can't find out from the people who support them because your whole feed is how bad Trump is.
But to what Akash is saying, I think their whole angle is vote for not him.
Yeah.
And if your angles vote for not him, you just got to make him as bad as possible.
Make him super radioactive.
Because to your point, Biden is uninspiring, so I can't inspire you to vote for him in my brain.
Democrats don't believe in Biden.
Yeah.
You know what the truth is?
It's not even about none of that.
These motherfuckers care about ratings.
Oh, very.
They care about clicks.
They care about engagement.
Yeah.
And the reality is Donald Trump moves the needle.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying and not only does Donald Trump move the needle
people who are supposedly left leaning
criticizing Democrats
moves the needle
you know why?
because it gets motherfuckers going on social media
so if I saw the whole context
of what Charlemagne said
fuck the whole context of what he said
let's just take this part of him saying
Joe Biden's uninspiring and then let's retweet it and somebody's gonna say this is the type of rhetoric
that's gonna get donald trump elected and so then it turns into charlamagne don't know what the
fuck you're talking about politics to charlamagne made little mama cry to charlamagne homophobic
charlamagne transphobic charlamagne now it's just this whole thing about me in a lot of ways, but it all goes right back to that one original clip
that's now probably got a hundred
thousand retweets.
A million plus views.
They make it look like you're supporting the
other side. That's right. And then when it
looks like you're supporting the other side, they have to
make you radio act. That's right.
They gotta attack your character to basically
cut your legs out from under you
so you don't inspire, influence people to support the other the other side when in reality if they just played the whole clip
everything would have been explained everything would have been explained and it probably would
have been a better discussion yeah yeah well they don't want good discussions no they don't the one
thing i don't understand is um the rock also said he's not endorsing anybody um uh taylor swift also said she's not endorsing anybody but Taylor Swift also said she's not endorsing anybody.
But that I feel no one was outraged about.
Because they need the black vote and Charlamagne is influential within the black community.
The Rock ain't black to America.
You know what I mean?
Shout out to Rock.
That's true.
But if The Rock dropped the N-word, we'd be like, hold on. Hold on.
You'd have to remind us.
You'd be like, oh, his dad is like, oh, that's my mom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got to do that.
Can you smell it?
What's this?
This guy had a whole rap song, didn't say the N-word.
He knows people don't think he's black.
I feel like Drake's more black than the rock.
Like, the people look at Drake more black.
Not right now. Not right now. Give him a The people look at Drake more black. Not right now.
Give him a minute.
He'll get it back.
Not right now.
Not at this current moment. Yeah, not at this current moment.
But it's interesting because even when I did Fox News, I did Brian Kilmeade's show on Fox.
I'm doing Gutfeld.
Well, we're taping this Tuesday.
I'm doing Gutfeld tonight.
Well, we're taping this Tuesday.
I'm doing Gutfeld, you know, tonight.
And the thing I've realized about them, they're not trying to push a narrative because they already know what their narrative is going to be.
I want the left to learn from the right and start just pushing the narrative that you want out there.
That's the only way.
What would it be if you were a Democratic strategist?
What would you push out there that are the good things they're doing?
For President Biden right now, I would be talking about the student loan debt a lot because those are the things that impact everyday people.
Like those are the things that people can point to. I know people who've gotten their student loan debt wiped away.
Like I know people personally who have gone to their accounts. Twenty thousand dollars. What does that mean? Wiped away? I don't understand what that means.
You don't have to pay it back. You don't have to pay it back you don't have to pay it back it's over but i don't does the bank take pay the hell
or do taxpayers pay back the i don't know because i'm trying to understand like that's true what i
assume it is is it's not wiped away what i assume it is is that burden is now displaced across 300
million americans miles it seems like you have the answer.
A lot of Biden's things are helping people.
Miles, hold on now.
Are you answering the question that we're talking about right now
or something completely unrelated?
Yeah, the debt that's getting wiped away
is Biden helping people sign up for programs
that would help,
that were like government-sponsored programs
that they didn't know they could get on,
that they worked in like a public sector for 10 years and then their debt gets wiped away but what the question is what
happens who's paying for it and what are you saying somebody has to pay take my assumption
is that the american taxpayer shares that burden because there's no way the banks are just going
well we'll just you know not take those few hundred million dollars for like fun so let's
say for example you teach for america get debt gets wiped away i guess that's the government being like what you do is noble enough in our eyes that we can pay
off this we'll take care of this debt for you yes and that's coming out of government coffers and
then we'll eventually when we talk about the government pays for something they don't have
money that's our money so we pay for it sometimes but sometimes they can reallocate money from a
different program but our money no but say a program's not oh yeah still taxpayer money i guess what i'm trying to say is like we look at it like the
debt is wiped away it's not wiped away it's just put on taxpayers just add it to the deficit and
we pay later yeah that's awesome and it's redistributed from money that's already there
that's to an ineffectual program yeah then that's a positive thing dude they got rid of uh the
non-compete clause i'm not i'm not saying don't do. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying let's say what is happening.
It's not like the banks are taking the L.
I think that you'd have unanimous support if we all found out the banks were taking the L.
Oh, Wells Fargo is going to have to eat that half a billion dollar.
Hell yeah, run it up.
It ain't that.
Yeah.
I mean, the guy, Mark, Alex Media, Akash, Dove, Miles Shifty, Andrew is also going to have to pay taxes.
Couldn't you do that with everything?
If a politician was like, I'm going to cut taxes, he could also be like, hey, I'm going to stop giving as much money to poor people.
You're just not going to do that.
I'm going to make sure some programs get cut.
Kids are not going to get breakfast at school.
Makes sense to me.
So basically, you're just framing it in a different way, right?
But you can do that with anything.
If a politician gets up there and says, hey, I'm going to cut taxes,
what he's also saying is
there's a lot of government programs
that are not going to get funded.
Some underprivileged kids might not go to school
because I'm cutting taxes,
so y'all save money,
but there's less to go to them.
You can do that with anything.
What I would,
the difference I would say is that
we don't know if
there's an increase in taxes
to accommodate that burden.
So that would be the difference between what you just said.
Or cut spending.
Exactly.
It's not cutting taxes.
It's cutting spending or just adding to the deficit.
Which they're never really doing, by the way.
They're never really cutting spending.
That just sounds good to say.
They don't cut spending, bro.
They just keep printing more money.
They really don't.
Yeah.
They don't cut spending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess, I don't cut spending bro they just keep printing more they really don't yeah they don't cut spending
yeah yeah yeah so i i guess i don't know and i wonder what happens for people who uh they just
finished paying off their student debt and now they're like holy shit if i waited you know 10
years then it would have done it you know i mean i like seeing everyday working class people get
that kind of relief yeah like you can't lose with that right and and that's one of the things that
people can
point to the same way when everybody talks about you know trump when they bring up the stimulus
checks and the ppp loans and all of that stuff like that those are things that they can point to
where they were provided relief motherfuckers will never forget when you provided them relief
and think about when they got that relief during the worst time that we probably experienced in American history.
Now, granted, they got the relief
because of that worst time,
because of that pandemic,
but they don't give a fuck.
If you were three, four months behind on bills
and all of a sudden you got a check in the mail,
you'll never forget who gave you that shit.
100%.
So that's what all presidents,
all elected officials...
So you're saying Biden is trying to buy the election.
What's wrong with that?
No, no, no. Andrew Yang tried to.
Universal basic income, you—that's all—what do we care about in this country?
We want money.
Guns.
Upward mobility and security.
Yeah.
That's all we ever want.
We want money and to feel secure.
There's a certain level of security that money gives you.
There's a certain level of security that being able to have your gun gives you that's what we want money and security anything that takes away from people's
money and security you won't you won't lose god damn that was good yeah that was fucking good
that's just the truth yeah yeah that is i was actually thinking other good things he did the
breaking up non-compete clauses which have been an unfair thing for workers that's money though
that's another thing they could push that biden did he's trying to break up monopolies like uh ticketmaster live nation
right now they're trying to go after like i don't know how i feel about that though okay explain
because i don't know much but yeah i don't know much either but just looking the way they even
when they're trying to even when they go after like the uh the social media platforms and stuff
like that it's like america has been a country that has pushed free enterprise forever right
you push capitalism
forever so when you got all these people who took advantage of free market enterprise to build these
entities yeah now that they're too big and too powerful and making too much money but there's
a point to break them up there's a point at which they can kill the competition because they're just
so big big bank take little bank that kills capitalism that kills entrepreneurship that
kills competition no just don't get into the ticket business don't come over here
live initiative
ticket master
run your shit
if there's enough of those
what are you going to do
the argument is that
it kills free enterprise
and then when there
is a monopoly
it really punishes
the consumer
so when there's only
one place where you
can buy tickets
they can start putting
all these hidden fees
and extra fees
and now the person
buying the tickets
is fucked
whereas if you have
three or four ticketing companies now those fees got to stay low which
benefits the consumer and it actually benefits theoretically the artist too because we want our
consumers like i see it sometimes and listen i'm with live nation right which is owned by
ticketmaster like the tour you know some of our dates are promoted by live nation but i see some
of these fees and i'm like hold the fuck on like $30 fee
on top of a ticket
like one I'd rather
I'd rather the people buying
get to keep that money
yeah yeah yeah
you know
and they own the venue
so he has no option
on where to perform
they control every aspect
that's not true
but
because there are plenty of venues
that you could perform
but there are ones
that might be owned
by Live Nation
they also promote gigs
at ones that aren't
owned by Live Nation Kanye would like to know at ones that aren't owned by Live Nation.
Kanye would like to know.
He'd like for you to make a list so he can find those other videos.
He can't get into the Live Nation ones.
What's up?
You think it's over for Kanye?
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What's up?
You think it's over for Kanye?
Over in what sense?
Just like it seems the interest has started to wane.
Like, yeah, he inserted himself in the beef.
And no one cared.
Well, that's because nobody cares about Kanye rapping.
You know what I'm saying?
Ooh, go on.
So if Kanye would have done this 10 years ago,
it's like, oh shit, Kanye inserted himself in the beef.
Nobody gives a fuck about Kanye rapping in 2024.
It's like walking around with your girl with the huge tits.
Especially when the guys that are rapping are the rappers that we actually want to hear from.
Pretend to be a Christian while you promote a porn website.
The idea that he's masquerading as this Christian with a fake wife, right?
You're not even really married to her.
You're starting a porn company.
Where is this?
They're not really married.
Not in the eyes of God, right?
Do you know what I'm saying?
And also, like, starting a porn company?
Like, what the fuck is going on?
Where is this Christianity?
Everybody jumps to Christianity or jumps to religion
when they need a fucking boost.
You saw even Diddy when he came out in the apology.
The first thing, I had to turn to God.
I had to forgive. Where was God when you was beating
that girl up? I think the problem with humans
is that... And butt-fucking guys a lot.
Intellegently.
Also watching guys butt-fucking.
Yeah, videotaping guys butt-fucking.
That's crazy. What's there? That's not even
in the alphabet, bro.
Like, it's LGBTQ.
It ain't no fucking R.
You and the video.
You and the whole thing.
No, no.
WGBF.
Like that's not in there, bro.
No, no, no.
That's gayer.
That's gayer.
That's not in there.
I don't even remember.
What the fuck was we talking about before?
People using God.
People using God when they get in trouble.
Yes.
I think that the problem with people like, and that's not even a problem.
Kanye is one of those people when he's in, he's all in, which is what makes him great.
Right?
Because when he focuses on one thing, he's going to focus on that one thing.
And that's how you get a My Beautiful Dog Twisted Fantasy.
That's how you get a college dropout.
That's how you get a late registration.
That's how you get these amazing sneakers, whatever it is, when he focuses on that one thing.
That's how you get these amazing sneakers, whatever it is, when he focuses on that one thing.
So it's like if for that moment he's in the God, he's going to be the biggest Christian in the world.
If he's in the anti-Semitism, he's going to be the biggest anti-Semite that ever existed.
Like literally, that's who he is as a person.
So it's just like.
And that's a hard thing to do to be the biggest anti-Semite.
My God.
Yeah.
I mean, my God.
There's some Jordan numbers out there.
By the way, so big that he was calling out the biggest.
No.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, getting the torch passed to him.
Yeah. When you surpass everybody and your only competition you see is Hitler.
Damn.
Whoa.
Your idols become your rivals.
That's wild.
That's wild.
But he's the type of person
that whatever he's on, he's on.
And I mean, it's a gift and a curse
for somebody like him.
Because it's the same reason
we got all those amazing things
that I've mentioned.
Right.
But it's the same reason
we get all the fuck shit too. Do you think that people do that though like do you see this a
lot like when people need forgiveness when they need the public to change their tune lean into
their relationship with god i think that's a natural thing because you think it's real you
don't think it's manipulated no i do think it's no i think it's real? You don't think it's manipulative? No, I do think it's real. I think you get to those points. No, no, no, I do.
But then how do you explain God and porn website?
Being a complex person.
Being a human being.
But wait, hold on.
Answer the question, though.
Do you think it's manipulative?
No, I don't think it's manipulative because I think in those moments, they really do be needing God.
Interesting.
I really feel that way.
I really feel like you get to a point where you might hit a wall or you might hit rock bottom or you feel like every the walls are
tumbling down the sky is falling all you have left is to turn to your creator okay at some point you
gonna get down on your knees i'm so and i ain't talking about being signed a bad boy i'm talking
about at some fucking point you're gonna have to bow down to your creative
i know people that were atheists who totally believe in god now because of things that have
happened in their life yeah you know and it's not always bad things here's the i have no that that's
i think wow you offered really great perspective on that for me because i'm like skeptical a lot
so when i see people going through tough times and then they're like publicly displaying this love for God, I look at it like, oh,
are they just trying to manipulate the most forgiving people? Because religious people
are incredibly forgiving because a lot of them have went through incredible difficult things
and then found God through that difficulty and then they've seen the light through it.
So I have like the most, I'm almost protective of them because I go,
the light through it.
So I have like the most,
I'm almost protective of them because I go,
you might be vulnerable
to this piece of shit
trying to take advantage of you.
But that is interesting.
When you are at the lowest point
in your life,
every single time,
and you are humbled,
you might also seek
that same salvation.
Why do you think people
find God in jail,
in prison?
Can I offer one counterpoint?
Well, also the food is better
if you're Muslim in jail.
Is it? Apparently, yeah, because you have to be halal. Oh. Yeah. So I offer one counterpoint? Well, also the food is better if you're Muslim in jail.
Apparently, yeah, because you have to be halal.
Oh.
Yeah.
So I think a lot of people convert to Islam for the food.
That's crazy they still don't convert to Judaism.
They don't let it happen.
Also, the Jewish food is... That's true.
Actual question.
There's a Bible verse that it hit me really hard at the time.
I don't remember it super well.
Matthew 6, essentially, your good deeds, your relationship with God is not real if you are out there displaying it publicly.
So I'm inclined to believe Andrew, especially with Christians, when they suddenly find God very publicly because there is an actual Bible verse that says that's not going to get rewarded by God.
The guy who doesn't let his left hand know what his right hand is doing
when he's doing good deeds or whatever,
that is the guy that gets rewarded by God.
But then they also tell us that we should champion God.
We should publicly praise him.
We should glorify him.
I can't remember the exact word.
Testify, testimony.
We all should have a testimony with God too, though.
And just like Charlotte was saying,
when Kanye goes in, he goes all in.
He made an album,
No Cursing.
He was doing Sunday service
every single Sunday
and not charging for it.
So it's like
he was really all in
during that period of time.
And I think if you get
one of Kanye's first singles,
that was massive
with Jesus Waltz.
That's true.
So it's not like
he always hasn't,
you know,
had a relationship,
you know,
with God.
Hmm.
No, that's true's true yeah that's interesting
yeah yeah maybe i have to have more of a an open mind with those i mean it's i get why you say that
it's i just i just feel bad because i know that there are people who have been saved and they see
the power of god yeah so when other people also see the power of God, they go, oh, I remember being in that situation.
And that sometimes is manipulative.
Because I know, like, what I saw from Diddy to me was 100% manipulative.
Diddy's always been a person that's talked about God.
But here's the thing.
It don't matter how much you talk about God.
Yes.
You know what I'm saying?
Be about it.
Your actions.
Word.
One of my affirmations today when I was reading was talking about effective truth.
And effective truth is essentially like, you know, we say things, right?
But it's about what you actually do, that truth that honestly matters.
I'm probably fucking it all up because I just read it this morning.
But it's basically like what you actually do is what ultimately matters.
You can say anything.
But if your actions ain't matching your words it's like
what's the point and what's so scary about a lot of those people like that
okay you fuck up you turn to god what happens when things get good again oh yeah when things
get good again you just all of a sudden forget about god that's when god really gonna bring you
to your knees like oh word you forgot just that fast huh watch this because this ain't a lot of these
people's first rodeo bro a lot of these people have been down these you know points where it
looked like they couldn't come back from it and you know god found a way but if you keep going
back to the same behavior that you know caused you to hit rock bottom in the first place what do you think
is gonna happen the second time i don't know why we act like god is you know just all forgiving
i don't believe that well i mean he kind of said that well he also created man in his image
according to his likeness so if i come to your house and pee on the rug once you might forgive
me i'm like okay he was you know drinking or you know i know he was in the retarded class in high
school something like something right but if i come there and do it again you're like all right bro
number one i probably shouldn't let you back in my house the second time right but now you really
are forbidden from coming here anymore in our purest form i think we would still love that
person and i think that's what god does you think in your purest form you still look at that person
for all their flaws and all the negative things that they're going through and all the pain.
And I don't do this.
I'm not fronting like I do.
I hate that motherfucker the first time.
But God would look at that person and say, I know he's struggling.
I know he's angry.
He's not maybe worthy of the rewards that I gave him.
And maybe I don't give him those, but I still love him the same.
And he's always welcome in my home.
That could be true.
Maybe he just has a weak bladder and he couldn't hold it.
Yeah, who knows?
I have a very weak bladder.
We also act like God hasn't hit reset quite a few times now he's hit reset on this shit quite a few
times right yeah that's what i'm saying and we look at all these planets that ain't got no life
on them that might have been a reset to a permanent one god might just keep giving earth all of these
different chances how we know we're not on our last hurrah. So what were the dinosaurs doing? Butt fucking.
They was gang problems, right?
Yo, that's all it took.
I said asteroid sea.
You like ass?
I'm going to give you tons of that.
Why you think a brontosaurus had that long neck?
That's what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying?
The T-Rex had them little arms.
Get right up in your asshole.
Yeah, face down, ass up.
That's what happened they
tip over yeah T-Rex no man yeah say it no say it nope no because you don't remember
let's get honest here let's get brutally honest here say it say what about the T-Rex yeah you
move that tail out of the way start digging the deleted scene in jurassic park where they were sucking each other's dicks you remember
nah man just tell us talking loud and saying something that's what you need to do listen
just chapter 17 is talking you would know
Andrew what was your
favorite part of the book
time for some action
you didn't read that shit
I did
you did
I read all your books
I do the audio though
two times the speed
time for some action Time for some action.
Time for some action.
Spelled, the number four.
Refreshed at me.
What was that chapter about?
I forgot.
S-U-M, action.
I don't care what word you use to describe your political affiliation, what religion you
worship, or what philosophy you subscribe to, your ideology, beliefs, principles.
None of those things matter more than your action.
Isn't that what he just said?
That's crazy. That's fortuitous. You know, I'm out here. I'm telling you, it's all about action, bro. none of those things matter more than your action that's what he just said that's right
that's literally i'm telling you it's all about action bro i don't care like you can tell me
anything show me and that's the tricky thing with the internet is because it allows you
to show things that you're not doing yeah i saw somebody i think it was published as weekly they
gave me a great review but they was like, but he has these tired takes about social
media and how it's ruining a generation.
Why is that a tired take?
Yeah, it's a fact.
It's a fucking fact.
Nobody ever said, it's a tired take that cigarettes are killing people.
You can never say that enough.
Or what if somebody comes out with the global warming shit?
It's a tired take about those.
Exactly.
Why is social media ruining
us and ruining our critical thinking it's also funny because social media is killing readers
digest you said it's weekly either way wait wait so wait what was the what was the specific take
that they uh took exception to about social media they didn't it. They just said it was a thing. They just said,
they're basically saying
it's a great book.
He has some tired takes
about social media
and how social media
is ruining us as a society.
And I'm just like,
that's not a tired take.
It's the truth.
Cal Newport wrote a whole book
called Digital Minimalism,
which I love.
Everybody knows.
Jonathan Haidt has a book out now.
The Ancient Generation.
I haven't got,
I'm still reading Bill Maher's book,
so I haven't got
The Ancients Generation.
But that's,
that's.
It's the same thing.
So how would that attire take,
how is warning somebody
about something
that's ruining us?
All right,
what about the practical application?
That's something I saw in Heights
that I thought was really good
about like restricting.
It's not only just restricting phones
because there's a certain point
in your child's life
where in order for them
to be like a social individual,
you need them to have a phone. Like you don't want them to be that weird
kid that has no way of getting in contact with their friends and it's important that they text
each other or whatever yeah and like you know they gossip with each other do whatever kids fucking do
but there's certain ages where you can do it and he was basically like avoid puberty that's the most
vulnerable time they have all these emotions going through their body they're so easily manipulated and the internet is right there to take advantage of them
yeah i don't have no you have daughters so i'm wondering like i don't have none of my kids on
social media how old are they as far as i know my oldest is 15 and she doesn't have any social
not as far as i know so that's because i made she might have some account on uh the computer
oh no i found i did find one back in the day, but it was just like quick, fast, in a hurry.
Like, if you do this,
you won't be doing this.
Right?
Wow.
Like, it's just that simple.
Because, you know,
I just feel like social media
really is that dangerous,
to your point,
to a young mind.
Yeah.
Like, I think the reason
some of us are able
to navigate it
a little bit better
because we're older.
Yeah, yeah.
We lived in a world without it.
Yep.
Can you imagine
growing up in a society
where this is all you fucking know
is social goddamn music?
We'd watch the same
10 music videos
after school
every single day.
And discuss them all.
Could break them down
so fucking eloquently.
Think about how little
information we consumed
as kids.
Yeah.
Like,
the same 10 videos,
it was like,
the same 10 books,
but it was almost nothing
that we were consuming on a daily basis
i wonder if that like affects memory and stuff now i feel like that a little bit where
we're like i'll it takes me a few times to really kind of get something to lock in and obviously
i'm terrified of that because my dad's dementia or whatever but i wonder if it's my brain is
filled with so much absolute bullshit that i don't have a calm enough and receptive enough
brain to consuming things i actually want to remember i have a bit about this i just instead
i said it's my wife's stories that are taking a lot of fucking words that's why i stopped taking
in so much information i know that sounds crazy to say but it's just like you just cannot physically
or mentally or emotionally consume everything that comes at you on a daily fucking
basis i don't even read as many books as i used to because i find myself just reading it to say
i read getting about yes and i'm like damn i don't remember nothing that was in that book so i'd rather
read two or three books a year the amount of times i have to reread a page because i i get to the
bottom like i don't fuck that i just i don't think i did I just read? I was telling Mark about a TV show.
We were flying back from, I think it was Abu Dhabi.
I was telling Mark and Derek about a TV show.
And I was like, oh my God, the fucking show is
incredible. The ending was amazing.
And then in that moment I go,
I don't even know who killed him.
A show I watched that I am
projecting my opinions on someone saying
the end is so incredible that I forgot
the fucking ending.
How? I talk to people people i have conversations with people and i'll be like yo man
damn i can't remember what i heard such and such told me such and such and the person would be like
i told you i told you that yeah yeah yeah i told you that yesterday
this is in jonathan heights book he brings up harrison bergeron this book by kurt vonnegut
where basically the whole world everyone has to be be equal. It's like 2080. Some people have high IQ,
some people have low IQ. So in order to balance everything out, the people with high IQs have a
device placed in their brains that every two or three minutes, there's a beep that goes off and
it makes them lose their train of thought. So they can't sit there and think of all these advanced
things and propel themselves down to the side. Essentially dumbs them down.
Exactly. But this is interesting.
Jonathan Haidt makes the correlation that we basically already have that.
So we're sitting here and every two or three minutes you're thinking of something.
You're like, oh, that's a really funny connection.
That's something I can go in my book.
That's something I can talk about on Idiots.
And all of a sudden your phone goes off and you go.
Bro, that's me.
And then you're immediately disrupted.
And so we're already disrupting ourselves and dumbing ourselves down.
And he says we're not taking time to basically be with ourselves.
How much smarter are you in the shower?
Yeah.
Oh, I remember everything in the shower yeah oh i remember everything more creative
for you and then as soon as you get out i forgot i'm like what the fuck did i just i just had a
bad idea what the fuck happened to it you know or just in the middle of conversation you'll be
talking you'll be talking you'll be talking and then it'll be like one thing i'll be like god
i'm sitting listening to mark i'm like how the fuck did mark remember all that shit from that
book literally and as he's as he's talking i had to refocus myself to listen to what he's saying because he's telling me exactly
what just caused me to lose focus yeah on what he was saying yeah yeah i just googled it i don't
even remember it what did i say no but it is i do remember what you said but i don't remember
so i'm curious what happens to kids in like say 10 years from now when they have all this distraction while they're also consuming.
Right?
We didn't really have that much distraction while we were consuming.
And we weren't even consuming that much shit in school anyway.
Like, they were telling us to read.
We weren't reading books over the fucking summer.
Maybe you were.
I was.
Okay, I was.
Book your program, baby.
Four books for a pizza.
Yeah.
Is that because you were retarded?
I bought the pizza.
Four books.
Were they coloring? Yeah. That's why I started reading so much judy bloom and shit oh really judy bloom clearly yeah so but
what i'm trying to say is like what happens 10 years from now right like these kids right now
let's assume let's go off the same thesis right that they're not able to hold on to the information
that they're consuming because they have this other stuff distracting them.
They have that little tick, that little beep.
They never learn shit.
Well, 10 years, will they not know fucking algebra?
Will they know geography?
Will they not know-
And we've outsourced most of the learning.
We're going to outsource even more and more and more to AI.
So it's like, there's not even a need for me to learn.
I think eventually they're going to bake in
like a dark period throughout the day.
Like, you know how Spain has siestas?
Like, I think there'll be a dark period. America would never that no i think they will explain what would it look like give me
so like say a certain period during school where it's like no technology no screens no nothing just
let your brain just calm down and i think adults will do it i think everybody will do it'll just
be like something that's known that we need this just to continue our mental health american coach
would have to change so much yeah this could be propaganda but a teacher came forward like
recently with an article and he was like i used to love teaching and i had to quit because i just
can't compete with phones we try to take the phones from the kids we there's like we cannot
beat the phones they do not listen so they try to make a dark period from 8 a.m to 3 p.m don't
fucking work these are kids they're not they're not having it we're a society in america
that loves over consumption yeah number one and a lot of those teachers are probably like
you know what get back on your phone kids because y'all stressing me the fuck out you know because
you you you're forced to entertain them and that's that's another thing i talk about in the book too
it's like when i say give yourself permission to not have these conversations it's okay if you want
to not talk to the person next to you
and you just want to be in your phone
or you want to read your book
or you want to be alone with your thoughts.
Don't feel like we have to make conversation
just because we're sitting next to each other.
Like, that's something that I think,
you know, even with that dark period
you're talking about, Alex,
it's like, you can't force these kids
to not want to be on what they want to be on.
I just feel that.
Eventually, we'll get to the point where like
the global warming will actually start warming too much where it's like we really need to do
some shit about it and i think oh okay yeah i think like maybe suicides might go up or
certain things just start going up to a level where it's like no one feels comfortable now
you got to bring back hell you got to bring back the story of hell that is the perfect time to bring back there's no
fear of going to hell anymore no there's hella fear going to hell because if you think it's hot
now with climate change yeah don't act right here on this motherfucking planet and feel how it's
gonna be in the afterlife yeah if you can't stand this shit you don't want to go to eternal hellfire
bring back stories of hell.
When's the last time you heard a good story of hell, bro?
Never.
Never.
Y'all were in New York, so y'all were never scared of hell.
I think we just lived in New York for a while.
I think if you go back for a while, there'll be a lot of stories of hell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The funny part is, in most movies, New York is hell.
Yeah.
Like, when they show you hell, they show you like...
Relax.
No, they do.
They show you like New York fucking city. no they do they show you like new york
fucking city do they yeah really you didn't know that i mean i remember watching the devil's
advocate or whatever that was was fantastic great movie great movie yeah yeah another one
devil wears prada also country boy think about it though yeah keanu reeves was a country boy
yeah came to new york new New York was the devil's playground.
You know what I'm saying?
That's what I mean.
Fun times.
Yeah, I don't know if I subscribe to this New York is hell thing.
I would say that if I moved to New York and didn't make it either.
It's probably because it's hell over there.
And you got to be the devil in order to make it. Bring back hell, baby.
Bring back stories of hell. I wonder if we do start to get a little bit more religious and i wonder if
that's what can kind of rein us in because that seems like there are very few things everybody
can agree on like what are the what is like the one thing that americans can agree on right now
tragedy which is it'd have to be extreme tragedy oh oh like that can that can compel all of us to
come together i think that's temporary too.
It is.
Like not a lot of people brought us together for about a week.
A little longer.
A little longer.
Okay.
Yeah.
Might've been a little rougher for you, but.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I brought y'all together.
God was hoping it would be over.
I know.
What is the solidarity over?
They keep telling themselves that it's over.
It's over.
They don't care no more.
They don't care about us no more.
Yeah, I think tragedy ain't God, yo.
But tragedy brings you to God.
Yeah.
Tragedy is what makes you start reflecting.
It makes you start thinking about, you know, what it is you should be doing in your fucking life.
Yeah.
You know?
What do you think that tragedy might look like if it's coming?
Nuclear weapon.
Nuclear bomb.
Oh, wow.
That's the only thing.
That's like this point, we too far gone. That shit is crazy. Why do you say that tragedy might look like if it's coming nuclear nuclear bomb oh wow that's the only thing that's like this point we too far ago that shit is crazy why why do you say that i just talked to a woman something like the denuclearization board she's trying to like get all these countries
to stop making nuclear weapons yeah and i didn't realize how real this shit is yeah it's crazy what
do you mean you didn't realize like i wasn't alive during the cold war i wasn't alive during the cube
missile crisis like i wasn't alive during any of War. I wasn't alive during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I wasn't alive during any of these major nuclear standoffs.
So in my mind, it's like, yeah, there's some bombs.
And it's just based on somebody's stability as a human.
Yeah.
Putin has sole power to launch any amount of nuclear warheads.
I think they have 1,000, 1,500.
And if you're, like, you know, there's been rumors that he's sick and stuff like that.
So if you're at that point.
You just keep saying that shit.
I don't know if we're here or not. But if you get to a point where you like you know what man
fuck it i'm about to be out anyway push the goddamn button you just don't know what you don't
know like that shit could really if he gets dementia or he starts losing his mind who's
gonna be able to overthrow him in time theoretically yeah not that it will happen but theoretically he
can just press that button that's the situation on purpose it could even just happen
on accident
there's like all these stories
of like Russian
you know
submarine dudes
chilling with a nuclear warhead
on the submarine
and then all of a sudden
three of the guys
have to all push the button
to shoot the nuke
and they get a read
on the radar
like oh Russia's just been
attacked by American missiles
we gotta shoot the nuke back
can you explain that again
this is a crazy story
this is an insane story
this happened in like
the 60s, 70s?
This is like an absolutely insane story.
And I'm going to kind of paraphrase.
Basically, you have three Russian guys on a nuclear submarine.
Okay.
On the submarine, they have a nuclear warhead.
It's not a joke.
It's not.
No one's going to be gay.
No one's going to be gay.
There's nothing crazy about it.
Three Russian guys are on a sub.
Russian soldiers are on a sub.
There's a nuclear warhead on the sub.
They can launch the nuke from the sub.
Okay.
Okay.
And then they all of a sudden get a read on the sub. There's a nuclear war in the sub. They can launch the nuke from the sub. Okay. Okay? And then they all of a sudden get a read on the radar that Russia is being attacked by an American nuclear bomb.
Okay.
And the status quo is, if you are attacked.
If we get attacked, we have to immediately counter-strike.
Yeah, yeah.
So two of the guys on the sub go, all right, we're getting the reading.
We're going to counter-strike.
And the third guy goes, I'm not doing it.
And he goes, why?
And he's like, we just have to wait.
Let's just wait 30 minutes, an hour. Let's see if it hits, and then we'll counter-strike. And the third guy goes, I'm not doing it. And he goes, why? And he's like, we just have to wait. Let's just wait 30 minutes, an hour.
Let's see if it hits, and then we'll counter-strike.
So they wait 30 minutes.
They phone up.
And all of a sudden, they realize that the reading they had on the radar was a faulty reading.
There was no actual nuclear missile or any missile that was fired.
That guy saves humanity.
Yeah.
And nobody even knows his fucking name.
Crazy.
And there's like five of those stories.
There was also a nuclear weapon that was dropped in South Carolina.
Yeah.
What?
It landed in someone's backyard.
Is that how you got like this?
Tell me the story.
I knew the joke was coming.
It's never happened.
I'm pretty sure in South Carolina.
And dropped by whom?
America, like American forces.
It was on an airplane.
It accidentally fell in someone's backyard, didn't detonate.
And it got caught in a tree, if I remember.
It was just chilling.
South Carolina moss tree.
I bet you it was a fucking moss tree, bro.
Bro.
I bet you it was a fucking moss tree bro I bet you it was
a fucking moss tree
that caught it
Mars Bluff
1958
Mars Bluff
inadvertent release
of a nuclear weapon
from a United States
B-47
over Mars Bluff
South Carolina
the bomb
I've never even heard
of Mars Bluff
South Carolina
what year Mark?
1958
fucking 8
20 years
what was happening
geopolitically
around the 58
you think that there
was a false flag
they like tried to do a i like this i'm listening doesn't it feel like
some shit was korea having no korea was before that korea was like 53 i think i don't know if
nuclear bombs can just fall six people are you trying to say he was trying to bomb blacks in
south carolina no bomb blacks in South Carolina? No. Is this Philly? Is this a block in Philly?
Exactly.
What is this?
I'm saying, like,
does America...
There's no Wall Street
and bluff support.
Did America want to get
into a war or something
and needed an excuse?
And then they're like,
oopsies, we dropped...
That's kind of crazy
that a nuclear weapon
just dropped from the sky.
I don't...
Yeah, I don't believe this shit.
Yeah, I don't know.
All that shit is just...
Bro, how...
You can't just imagine
us being incompetent
one time? Yeah, I know. Why is the LGBT topics on the can't just imagine us being incompetent. Yeah, I know.
Why is the LGBT topics
on the nuclear weapon?
This is different.
This is different.
This is from an old search.
What the fuck?
It happened again in 61
in North Carolina.
So what's up
with the Carolinas?
Special, man.
They're trying to get us out of here
because we're special.
Maybe a base is right.
There's a lot of military bases
and there's a bunch of military bases
in North and South Carolina.
Like most people who are military brats have spent some time in South Carolina and North Carolina.
Bro, this is crazy.
Seven countries got nuclear weapons, but a bunch of them have access to nuclear weapons.
And they can get them from other countries and shit.
Sweden just asked, like requested for nuclear weapons from America.
Like, yo, put some nuclear weapons over here.
Annie Jacobson just wrote a whole book where basically she's like, let's say North Korea wants to start a war.
They launch a bunch of nukes over.
We start nuking back over at them.
All of a sudden,
Russia's involved
because they're an ally.
So now they're going to
start hitting Europe.
There's fires everywhere.
Nuclear winter happens
and then everyone dies of famine.
You want to know something crazy, Mark?
You just said Annie Jacobson?
Guess who's directing that movie
after Dune Messiah?
Who?
Denis Villeneuve.
That's the option that,
it's called Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson,
which is like a ticking clock scenario
of what would happen in a nuclear war.
And they've spoken to all those people about like,
I don't need to see no shit.
All that plan.
But that's,
70 minutes.
That's,
that's real.
You got 70 minutes.
And then everybody's dead.
No,
I mean,
first,
initially a bunch of people die.
In the 70s,
is it that long?
Everyone in the cities dies within 70 minutes.
And then within like a couple months after that, everyone in the cities dies within 70 minutes. And then within like
a couple months after that,
everyone in the middle
of the country dies.
Nuclear fallout.
They're basically like,
if you're like away
from the equator,
if you're like Australia,
maybe Argentina,
you might live.
But everyone else is dying.
And now we find
all these billionaires
are building bunkers
in New Zealand.
The crazy part is,
and this is how you know
America's so wild, right?
For the past five, six months, it has been heavy talk of nuclear war
okay from different people putin said it's not off the table like all everybody's talking about
it and nobody gives a fuck we're just going on about our day every fucking day like this isn't
a possibility i also think people are just trying to top the next person and that's really the last
big dick swinging contest you could do at this point.
What more can you say besides, yo, I got
nukes. Remember, I got nukes.
Remember when a couple weeks ago, 300
missiles were fired from
Iran to Israel? Oh my god.
You guys saw that happen. What if that shit went
well?
They got nukes.
We're talking about nukes.
Who has nukes? Rubber bands. Israel has nukes and Iran could have nukes? They got nukes. We're talking about nukes. We're not talking about like... Who has nukes? Rubber bands.
Who has nukes?
Israel has nukes and Iran could have nukes.
No, I'm not wrong.
That's a bunch of firecrackers.
Wait, wait.
What are you saying?
Oh, you're saying that could have been nuclear war.
That could have started something.
I mean, India and Pakistan, they got nukes.
I don't think Iran is...
That's the one that scares me.
But remember when Russia...
Iran doesn't have nukes.
Remember when the...
They can have nukes.
Listen.
They might be.
I don't think they have them.
India, Pakistan.
If anything pops off, it's us. Remember when that thing called the former USSR came apart?
Do you know how much random uranium and plutonium is in different parts of wherever the former countries were?
Like where someone on the black market is going to find some uranium.
What Dov is saying, who got the vibranium though?
I'm just saying, it's not all accounted for.
And something like that could start that that
war pakistan india do you think we're close yeah it's just a weird time right now man
governments fall apart anarchy be pretty crazy so we're fine is this is this like an argument
it'll be fun. I said we're fine. Oh, I thought you said... I don't think nobody's pushing the button.
Is this an argument, though, for...
Okay, if the world is this unstable,
is this an argument for whoever's in power
placing people in positions of power
in foreign countries to maintain the stability?
If we all subscribe to this idea that at any point in time nuclear war and you have a potentially unstable leader a kim jong-un or kim jong-un or something like that
to me if the world is that vulnerable and then in 70 minutes everybody's dead
it is the most benevolent thing to do which is get him the fuck out of there and then in 70 minutes everybody's dead it is the most benevolent thing
to do which is get him the fuck out of there and then put some puppet in that you know at least
isn't going to push the button if that's how we did it yeah but i just don't think we necessarily
do it just when we're worried about it i agree there's financial reasons etc but you could make
the argument if it's that kim jong-un might need to go yeah but see that's my thing what happened
remember what happens is just taking people like that out.
I think about this all the time.
There used to be a time.
Nope.
People like that,
they just get the fuck out of here.
Which makes me feel
like they can trust him.
It makes me feel like
he's a good bad guy.
Hey, we need somebody out there
that's just going to pop shit.
You need a foil.
Exactly. You need somebody to keep everybody on gonna pop shit you need a foil you need somebody
to keep everybody
on their toes
to make you think
some bad shit can happen
but we really got
what was the last time
we got somebody out of here
cause I feel like
it's just been a while
and it makes me think
that's not
we don't have it
like that anymore
what's a while
well
Gaddafi
some people
feel like the Iran president
there's some shaky shit there I thought it was I thought it was an inside joke yeah I thought it was the people feel like the Iran president. There's some shaky shit there.
I thought it was.
I think that was an inside job.
Yeah, I thought it was the Cowboys and the Starboys.
Apparently, it's inside.
I think it's an inside job.
What the fuck the weekend got to do with this?
Explain to them Cowboys and the Starboys.
No, no.
The Cowboys are America and the Starboys are the Jews.
The star, the flag, you know.
Okay, okay.
But I think it was an inside job specifically because apparently they took the black box out of the helicopter like two weeks before.
So why would there not be a black box in the president's helicopter?
Also, I think all the helicopters are super old because—
They're American, and to get the parts—
There's a boycott on American—there's a boycott on, like, military equipment.
Sanctions, embargoes on
the American parts to replace
so and then the other thing
is I think that the supreme leader
whatever his name is
Khomeini, I think Khomeini wants his
son to take over after him but the
fact is that the power is not necessarily
split but there are people who really love the
president apparently from what I was reading
in Iran and whenever there is a split of power or people who are following power the way
that you consolidate that is you get rid of the other person that's got some power wow so it looks
to me that it's more suspicious but then that wasn't us but we haven't done but we said yeah
adult somebody you said it was an inside job shows. I don't know. That's what I read.
But all this shit is inside jobs.
Keep going.
Keep going.
That's the whole point.
You get somebody that people feel comfortable with and close to to infiltrate and go get the job done.
Yeah.
Like, there's no foreigners shooting American presidents.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like, the presidents who have been shot have been shot by people who are here.
Yeah.
Somebody got in their ear and corrupted them in some way, shape, or form.
So who are the leaders
that we want switched up?
Obviously Putin.
But then here's the other thing
about Putin.
Oh.
No, no, no, no.
Who do we want to die?
We have to say,
yo, yo, yo, yo.
We say, switched out.
Yo, yo, yo, yo.
It's different.
Give an asylum in America,
put them in the Hamptons.
No, no, no.
Here's the thing.
Not the Hamptons.
Here's the thing about Putin.
I don't even know
if we want Putin switched out.
Because if the military
industrial complex in America
makes tons of money
making weapons
right
we need someone
to use those weapons on
Putin
is nice
he's a nice foil
he's someone who's gonna
start a war
he's someone who's gonna
or he's gonna at least
respond to our
antagonization
right
so you need someone who responds.
You don't need someone who bends over.
If they bend over, we can't use the weapons.
I never thought about that until you said it.
But a guy that's saying,
I'll send over the nukes if I need to,
that guy you don't want to fuck with.
That guy you can switch out.
Logically, if you believe that he'll do it.
Maybe he's just talking.
Exactly.
I don't think we believe he'll do it.
Think about what we're doing.
We are supplying Ukraine with all the weapons.
We're essentially the ones that are i mean it's american weapons that are killing now russian
soldiers give him incentive to want to flip of course but the fact that he doesn't still and he
knows where the weapons are coming he knows where the weapons are coming from so maybe it's the
perfect foil maybe he also has a military industrial complex that he needs to supply
weapons for use weapons for so he's liking the fact that this war
is going on too. I don't know. The thing about sending nukes
is once he sends over nukes, we send over nukes.
But we're not talking about nukes. We're talking about
what is the status quo. So far, we're the
only ones that have sent nukes. And we've been in so many
skirmishes, wars, conflicts,
whatever you call with the Russians. We're talking
about back to Afghanistan, right?
Where nothing has happened. And we know that this
is Russian weapons and American weapons combating.
We're using proxies.
This happened all over.
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How do we know nukes even really exist?
You know, how do we know?
There's a lot of Japanese people who are well aware. I'm talking about now though. How do we know nukes even really exist? No, we know. There's a lot of Japanese people who are well aware.
I'm talking about now, though.
How do we know that they still exist?
Because to Andrew's point, ain't nobody let one fly.
There was one on a fucking tree in South Carolina.
We don't know.
It didn't detonate.
It just conveniently didn't detonate.
I don't believe it.
Just conveniently didn't detonate.
Well, they do test them a lot.
They do test them.
Where?
Underground.
Marshall Islands.
What are you? The fuck is the Marshall Where? Underground. Marshall Islands. Yeah.
Who the fuck is the Marshall Islands?
They're tolls.
Don't forget to write about it.
The Marshall Islands.
Bikini Island.
Yeah, Bikini Atoll is a big one.
Yeah.
No, no, no, Sean.
No, no, no, no.
By the way,
shout out to everybody
who comes to the book signings
trying to get me on these dick jokes.
I have not forgotten. OK. They're still trying to get me on dick jokes.
No. What's the last one? None. Because they use it like the dude trying to hit me with the tip of the other day.
I'm like, cut it out. Yes. He's out there in Coral Gables Saturday. He tried to hit me with the tip of the.
I got hit with the Putin one the other day. The Putin? But Putin can get you.
Anything that can get like that, it can get you a little bit.
Putin is dick.
Well, that can get you, though.
How did you get caught?
Because it can get you.
What are you talking about?
But it can get you.
Because we're talking about nuclear war.
Yeah.
What do you think about Putin, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'll show you something that will explode.
I'm just saying. It's just saying we're in crazy times man
yeah but also great times
yeah that's the problem
it really is
more people got access to clean drinking water than ever
we got air conditioning
we're living in the best time of human history
air conditioning is awesome
that means more than clean drinking water
we got black country singers white rappers like we got
white golfers running over cops yeah india's got wi-fi we get to see what they're up to got wi-fi
it's awesome over there i mean like shit is also fire we could focus on all the negative but we're
not going back to any other time i guess that's the whole thing right all of this doesn't have
to be negative if we just have conversations about it.
Right.
Because a lot of honest conversations, honest conversations, a lot of like we just had an honest conversation.
Yeah.
What world leaders need to go?
They got to go. Who needs to motherfucking get it?
They got to go.
And why are they not doing this shit old school, primitive style like they used to?
Andrew brings up a fire point because they all in cahoots together.
They're useful.
Boom.
That's it.
Women, they all have those conversations where they go meet up and Trump walks in front of people and likeahoots together. They're useful. Boom. When they all have those conversations
where they go meet up
and Trump walks in front of people
and shakes their hands.
Who are Xi Jinping?
You should switch out Xi Jinping.
You probably won't even tell the difference.
That's not a dick joke?
No.
It's very racist.
It's very racist.
It's a very racist joke.
We just left you out there.
I started itching. I thought he was about to say,
with the GG ping in your mouth.
I'm like, what?
He's saying that you could switch out the Chinese leader
and nobody would know
if you just put another Chinese in.
Stop laughing.
The dick joke is so funny.
He's still trying to figure it out.
He thinks there's something going on.
He thinks there's something going on.
Point is, they're all meeting up
and they're all having the conversations.
It got to be.
That's why I never understood when people used to get upset when Trump used to go talk to these people.
Isn't that what you're supposed to do?
Bro, aren't you supposed to go talk to Putin?
Aren't you supposed to go talk to the leader of North Korea?
Now you know that that's what the internet is for.
Fox News is going to have a field day with that.
No, it's not even Fox.
It's not even what you need.
No, no, I'm saying like, the internet is for people to be upset about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thanks, right?
And there are little ecosystems.
Like I used to feel when the internet,
like at least internet media,
like news media on the internet initially popped up, right?
I was like, oh wow,
there's going to be some truth and opportunity
and they're not beholden to the pharmaceutical companies
and they're not beholden to the military industrial complex.
And because of that,
you're going to see unfiltered truth right and now it's just like oh you're just as biased
you're just leaning into whatever you get clicks for yeah like this idea that the the internet news
is not an echo chamber it's worse constantly you could make the argument it's worse then it might
okay why why do you think it's worse because i respect you more of you getting a big ass check from a pharmaceutical company and if you can youtube
you know what i'm saying it's motherfuckers in debt right now because they just got on the internet
and lied got sued now they're in debt for the rest of their fucking life i would rather you
get the big check from the pharmaceutical company.
Get some shit that you can walk away from.
Get fucked in your ass for billions.
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Like if Bowie's going to fuck you in the ass, better if Bowie fucks you in the ass than
the fucking what's an AdSense that comes on YouTube.
Yes.
Yeah.
$10 CPM.
Yeah, like $10, $10 or something.
$4 CPM.
You always got to think like you sitting around with your boys, whether it's in the hood, whether you in Manhattan when you're going to play basketball, whatever that circle was, right?
Remember when we all know that circle when you were young, that circle that you craved validation and you want them to give you your props.
If they find out you got fucked in your ass, you got to be able to say,
I paid a billion for it, though.
It was Boeing.
Yeah.
So they'd be like,
I paid a billion to get fucked in your ass. Billion dollars, yeah.
Still gay, but yeah, I get it.
It ain't gay at that point.
It's good business.
I want a loan.
It's good business.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but...
And that's when you'd be like,
you know what you got to do?
I give you a million.
You know what you got to do? You know what you a million. You know what you got to do?
You got to get it like I got it.
Word up.
Ain't going to be no loan forgiveness over here.
I'm not the Biden administration.
I'm coming to collect it.
You got to get it like I got it.
Okay, I got a billion to get fucked in the ass.
Let's negotiate.
Exactly.
That's all.
Yeah, you dirty ass.
Your ass is dirty.
You know what I mean?
Way less. But that is the thing that I've noticed. that's all yeah your dirty ass your ass is dirty you know what I mean it's all up to the left
so that is
but that is the thing
that I've noticed
so maybe it's just indicative
of like who we are as people
we're just gonna lean
into where our bread is buttered
and it's gonna be very hard
for there to be truth out there
it's gonna be very hard
because a lot of times
people aren't willing
to take the hit
for the truth
nobody cares about the truth
when the lie is more entertaining
ooh who said that
who said that
I said that in my first book who said that also uh it's the narrative it's not
even when the lie is more entertaining it's when the lie is more lucrative yeah nobody cares about
the truth when the lie is more lucrative when the lie is more lucrative and once you like understand
the internet and you realize how easy it is to just get views and that kind of shit and you
you like like i'm very proud of us. Like, we make an active choice.
We're like, okay, we're going to have some people on
that we think are fun, but we're not going to,
we're not going to basically frame every single episode
into things that we think are bullshit.
There's a comedy podcast.
But you don't know.
Oh, we know.
Not all the time.
There's a way to game this shit,
and we choose not to do it.
We choose not to do it.
But you would have to have, like, a fact checker researcher sitting in studio right no i'm saying the opposite i'm saying we
could go the we could go the extremist route uh-huh all you gotta do is yell and have a really
bad take about something and that shit will go but so many people be right we just think that
they're not right because they're yelling and we think and they got in the internet has told us
that they're what they're saying is not true.
I'm the type of person,
I got to go research it myself.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not listening to social media.
Like yesterday was a great example, right?
Nicki Minaj gets arrested.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Nicki tweets out,
and this happened in Amsterdam
where weed is legal.
Yeah.
So my mind goes,
well, maybe weed isn't legal in Amsterdam.
Let me just go Google and see.
Because I never knew.
You know, you always hear these stories
about Amsterdam red light district.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not legal in Amsterdam.
Well, that wasn't the issue, but yeah.
But it's legal in designated coffee shops
and places where it's designated.
And I think you can only have up to
like five grams or some shit like that.
So if she had a bunch of pre-rolls, maybe they were over five grams.
The issue is she was trying to travel to another country with them.
And that's where you get punished.
So at the Amsterdam airport, if they see that you're bringing weed onto your flight, they can arrest you for that.
But my point is, that's part of the law.
Yeah, exactly.
In her mind, weed is legal in Amsterdam.
Which one, isn't true and two
you're bringing it to another state that's right or another country that's right which is also
that's right so they find it for that but like which we've seen happen in america all the fuck
you might leave cali with the weed and land in fucking i think denver airport there's like a
thing it's like an amnesty thing where you're like throw it out now because if we catch you
with it you're fucked that's funny throw'm saying? That's funny. Throw it away here. It's good.
You're good.
They'll let you throw it away.
Oh, that's cool.
I like that.
They just have a box you can put it in.
I like that.
And then all the TSA guys take it home.
Yeah.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Resell it.
That's fine.
My point is, she said that.
That's good faith.
And mad people on social media repeated it.
I saw that so much yesterday.
Why is this happening to Nikki?
Weed is legal and everything.
Not quite, guys.
Yeah.
But nobody even stopped to do any of the research.
And then people will turn that story into anything that fits their argument.
So if their argument, look how racist the world is, they'll be like, oh my God, look at this.
Sexist, racist.
Or look how, or the opposite, which is.
Look how entitled Americans are.
Look how entitled Americans are.
This is another Brittany Griner just thinking that she could take drugs all around the world.
It's going to be okay.
And people will frame this story into whatever fits their echo chamber.
Nikki had more fire frame, though.
And this ties into-
What'd she say?
Nikki kept it into the, this is them still trying to sabotage me.
My tour.
They've been trying to stop me for the-
You know, her whole thing has been about-
The European Union.
The industry's trying to shut her down and stop her. She even put it right back. No, this is the people trying to stop me for the life. You know, her whole thing has been about the industry's trying to shut her down
and stop her.
She put it right back.
No, this is the people trying to stop my tour.
I don't know why they're trying to stop my tour.
You know what that makes people want to do?
What?
Buy more tickets.
What were you saying?
I got to go out here and support Nicki.
Shit.
I was, what he's saying about the echo chamber,
that ties into the earlier point he was making,
which is I can just feed you
what I already know you want to hear.
You want to hear. Yes. Oh, look at at racism all examples of racism that makes you feel good
and there's a way you can lean into that and kind of grift and just make pretty good money i want to
do it you can't be great you can't be great but you can have a good comfy no i really want to do
what would be your grift what would you jump on mental Mental health, therapy, that kind of thing. Nah, I'd do that.
That's stupid.
I don't know.
You could go conservative and have so much fun. Oh, my God.
You and Candace Owens?
Doing that now.
What's the next grift?
I don't know.
But my thing is, like, I cannot do it.
Meaning that maybe it's just...
I'm not a contrarian.
But I have to just see what the other... of view point of view intelligent person i have to yeah like you cannot
just tell me something i have to go see what the other pov is also if your contrarian nature
inspires you to do that that's not a bad. Whatever it is that makes you go out there and seek a little bit more information, that's fantastic. It's okay. You should. Yes. Like,
don't just take somebody's word for it. Not even mine. But you have to understand how hard that is
when you're making money on it. And a lot of people on the internet are making money. They're
paying their rent. They're paying their family's rent. And they have a responsibility now to go
continue making this money in this way. They quit their job.
They're like, holy shit, I'm making money making YouTube videos now.
I got to keep these clicks up.
I got to keep these views up.
That's right.
How do I do it?
Oh, here's my currency.
I'm leaning into that.
The algorithm decides what they create, not themselves.
It's the most inauthentic version of creation.
That's right.
You are not creating for you.
You are creating for others.
For others.
Yeah.
I talk about that in the book it's just like you know i know very smart people very intelligent people who are literally just telling people what
they want to hear and it's so predictable and then they have the audacity to criticize
yeah you aren't even creating what you authentically want oh my god the audacity
to criticize oh the algorithm has decided who you are as a creator.
Oh, my God, man.
No, it's actually disgusting.
Yeah.
And they're influential.
People will believe them, too.
Eh.
I think it's coming to an end. Yeah, I think it's not sustainable.
That's what they don't realize.
It's not sustainable.
Initially, it was because we just kind of believed anything that was produced.
We were like, oh, my God, here's information.
It must be true.
Somebody put effort into making this.
And now that people are starting to see that there's like a grift and you can get views by doing certain things,
I think the public is starting to be skeptical of the same exact video being put out.
I think there still is a market for it.
But there's influence.
I think we underestimate how many people are lost.
And to your point about religion, like giving guidance, since there's not as much religion,
maybe Tim Dillon said this, we're all kind of looking for God in something else.
So if I'm a broken person who got treated, women treated me like shit, I never got no pussy.
I guess that's me, but I didn't get angry about it.
But you chose not to get pussy.
Yeah, true.
But like these people who they find these red pill guys and they're like, oh, they're telling me exactly what I want to hear.
I don't care what you expose about them. I don't care if it's fake. That like these people who, they find these red pill guys and they're like, oh, they're telling me exactly what I want to hear. I don't care what you expose about them.
I don't care if it's fake.
That makes me feel good.
Oh, you see that with celebrity all the time.
Yeah.
Like people like, and that's how I know people don't really be caring about the issues.
Like they care.
They care about the individual.
Yeah.
Like people got mad at me last week.
I didn't realize they got mad at me for some brilliant idiot shit I said months ago when we were talking about Diddy.
Wow.
And I was just saying how like when I see situations like this it's sad right like i did
um i did dan abrams show and he played the clip from idiots right but he played it without the
context so the context was it's sad to see another person you know ruin their life based off poor
choices yeah right it's sad to see when these people crash and burn
That's because they've made poor alleged porch at the time. I said alleged poor choice. Yeah, right so
When somebody asked me about did it was on the view they asked me about Diddy and I go
I think we need to focus on the issue
Not the individual hmm
Because what happens a lot of times in these situations we get so caught up in the celebrity of it all
That we we don't ever take the time to talk about what's the real core issue here to me it's
domestic violence yeah it's these men that need to go through the work on themselves because they're
dealing with all this hurt and this pain and this unhealed trauma and they're projecting that on
the other women and it's the patriarchy because you got a guy like a diddy who's in a position
of power who probably don't look at any woman as an equal or it's a sociopathic
power hungry narcissist but that's all that's still all mental health related that's still
all something that you need to go be crazy people yeah yes yes so my point is we don't ever talk
about the issue now it's a diddy's music is banned from peloton and diddy's eyeglasses are
taking out who gives a fuck whatever happens to him as an
individual he's got to deal with the consequences of his actions but the issue is still going to be
going on that's interesting as i'm talking right now somebody's getting their ass kicked some
woman's getting their ass kicked right now nobody's even paying her no and then we move on once we see
justice is served for the individual that's right we act as if the issue is taken care of when in
reality it's not taken care of no at all at all but our
our passivity comes in because we feel satisfied because we never cared about the issue
and i've never cared as strong but like we cared more about the fact that this famous person we
saw our whole lives is involved in this thing a pound of flesh now i largely agree with you
could you make the argument that there is still some benefit in seeing we're going to make an example out of this guy?
You're going to take this guy who was a demigod of sorts, like so powerful, and he's going to be stripped to nothing.
And these are the consequences of those actions.
Yes, but you have to put the lesson in it, right?
Like we can't have these small conversations about Diddy and what it means to his legacy, whatever, whatever.
We have to say this is what happens to your legacy
when you do bullshit behavior like this.
I don't think we ever have those discussions
when it comes to celebrity.
Yeah.
All we see is all of these guys get canceled,
all of these guys go to prison, as they should,
but then what?
R. Kelly, same exact thing.
The behavior keeps going.
Nobody's talking about human trafficking,
nobody's talking about what's happening to these.
Nothing. He pees on people. That's it. Yeah, same exact thing. Nobody's talking about human trafficking. Nobody's talking about what's happening to these. Nothing.
He pees on people.
That's it.
Which is hilarious.
What's the lesson with Diddy?
It's like, oh, he's gay.
Yeah, he's gay.
But it's not.
We don't know that shit.
Fair.
That is the other.
What we know about Diddy is he absolutely puts his hands on women.
We've seen that.
I think that part's worse.
Than him being gay?
I don't know, dude.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You're right.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
It depends how he's getting his butt.
No, because he could be.
He could be non-consensual.
If he's being nasty.
That's what I'm saying.
He could be non-consensual.
I think we do know he's gay, though, from that video.
Bro, there's one story that came out of all this.
Don't jump away from it.
He did fight with flowers.
We do know that he's gay from that video.
Why?
Because of the way he was holding his towel?
No.
What?
The socks.
I didn't notice the socks.
You didn't see the socks in the video?
No.
I really couldn't.
I didn't watch the video.
The things y'all pay attention to in a goddamn video.
Once I saw him pull her down and kick, I'm like, I've seen enough of that.
I didn't watch that part.
I just watched the socks.
I watched him like Joker walking through the hallway
and his pink fuchsia socks.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh, this guy's definitely gay.
That was what I thought.
That was the first thing I thought.
I didn't know they were pink.
Oh wow.
He put on her socks.
Why would he do that? Because it's a power thing it's great by the way
it's grippy bro drugs like a motherfucker yes god that's that's clear and she said he was
intoxicated and shit but you are sean p diddy combs yeah and you're in the intercontinental
hotel and you run out in a towel this was
2000 what 16 or 18 yeah yeah this guy was 46 years old you you're a hundred you're a multi
you might have been a billionaire by the time i don't chalk it up like no drug makes you beat a
woman no no you beat women and then you do it like yeah it's not only drugs yeah yeah it's not
only i'm not saying it's not only drugs but this is yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not only, I'm not saying it's not only drugs, but this is, this isn't regular behavior, bro.
Like, you're,
I think it's regular.
You're running in a hotel
with a towel on?
I agree with him.
I think it's regular for him.
I think he's such a fucking monster.
The amount of times
you gotta hit your girl
to not give a fuck
that you're in public?
Yes!
That's what I'm saying.
But I think he's just
such a power-hungry person
that when he,
I think he feels invincible
when he has the power.
And these types of things,
unfortunately,
make him feel invincible.
Top or bottom?
What?
Top or bottom?
Oh,
did he?
Power bottom.
I think,
honestly,
I think it's,
I think it's top and I don't even think it's a gay thing.
I think it's,
I think everything about his life is power and how he can exert power on
people.
I think that's why watching people fuck someone is power.
It's like,
I'm going to make you do this thing
you don't even want to do
and I'm going to watch and enjoy it.
That's why he loves the Joker.
He wants to be the fucking Joker,
this agent of chaos.
I think it's both, bro.
You think he's a power bottom?
Centipede.
So it's like,
dick, then dick.
He's in somebody in him.
It's both fucking.
Eiffel Tower.
Can I ask you a related question?
Jay-Z. Oh, stop Tower. Can I ask you a related question? Jay-Z.
Oh, stop it.
If I'm hearing smoke, I've been hearing smoke about Diddy.
That's why I believe the Cassie shit right away,
because we've all heard things about Diddy for a long time.
We never heard this shit.
We did not hear it.
I heard, we used to always make a joke.
No, we did not.
I've heard the joke, Cassie's a hostage.
You hear little whispers that he's abusive.
Yeah, but we heard that.
We said that about Tom Cruise, too, with Katie Holmes. Yeah. never i didn't think i was gonna ever see a video like this i
heard abuse whispers so i was thinking yeah i heard gay i'd never heard i always heard gay
gay non-stop and that was enough people were like that's because of wendy williams what'd you say
oh that was wendy wendy whole thing was diddy was gay since the 90s. She knew, dog. No, Wendy was throwing that out there.
We owe Wendy an apology.
That's why Wendy got fired from Hot 97.
Wendy got fired from Hot 97 by Diddy because that's when Bad Boy was smoking hot.
Wow.
And yeah, she got fired for putting that out there.
Do you think that Diddy held on to the gay rumors so that people didn't know what he really was?
Yeah.
Ooh.
Because that's the perfect smoke screen.
You'd rather people think you're gay than beat women.
By the way, here's the wild thing.
We still don't know what Diddy is.
I mean, we know little.
We know bits and pieces.
Yeah.
This shit might be deeper than rap.
We don't know.
This might be a whole rap and all.
You might be like, oh, shit.
But seeing this being.
That's what I was trying to get at this whole time.
That is the wildest story that came out of a lot of
this shit and nobody gives a fuck wait what's the story what's the call it up i don't even want to
repeat it oh this shit sounds so crazy no type in that type in his name and diddy but this is why i
believe all the cassie allegations because of this video. Because she describes this,
what happened to the T.
So now it's like,
I believe everything she said.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A thousand percent.
I'm not, I'm not, I, yeah.
This is horrifying.
Also, also Diddy's bullshit,
while you're getting that,
Diddy's bullshit has to excuse
like how he couldn't mention
Cassie's name in the apology.
There's no rule
you can't apologize.
Why?
I'm not laughing at that.
No, I know you're not.
I'm laughing at this shit here.
I'm laughing at this shit
that Marcus put on.
Yeah, also you called her a liar like three days ago.
Yeah, get the fuck out of here.
Said she was looking after her for a quick buck.
You're a fucking scumbag.
Maybe this is more triggering for me because whatever, but like that shit.
Why is this more triggering for you?
I grew up in a house, and I didn't see that ever, but I grew up in a house where there was abuse.
So it was like, you watch that, and this is way more extreme than anything I saw.
Like, she's trying to sneak out of the fucking room.
He's dragging her by the hair. I'm not going to pimp my struggle. I didn extreme than anything I saw. Like, she's trying to sneak out of the fucking room. He's dragging her by the hair.
I'm not going to pimp my struggle.
I didn't see anything like that.
But watching that is like, yo, fuck this guy forever.
Did you ever try to intervene?
Yeah, I did one time.
You got your ass kicked?
No, we didn't do anything.
I just stood in his way.
And I didn't say a word.
I didn't even look at him, which I'm kind of like, I just got in his way.
And I remember thinking, if this goes down, this goes down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's all I remember. his way and i remember thinking if i have to if this goes down this goes down yeah yeah that's
that's all i remember i remember i was reading will smith's book and he he always said he felt
bad because he never intervened so that was like he said he said he felt like a coward yeah you
know he never intervened uh watching his mother go through the abuse from his father but i think
i think he said his brother did so it just a lot of that just makes you kind of think about
everything that happened that everything that transpired transpired with the slap and all of that. You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Like I have to do I'm going to stand up for myself finally.
You didn't play the clip.
I'm trying to find it.
It was right there. I saw it. Go back to the one. Go back to the hip hop DX one.
This is wild, bro.
I didn't see this.
Yo, this is crazy.
This was wild. Like I'm like, this is how you know too much is going on. First,
this shit is wild but hilarious.
Let's keep it a buck.
No.
That's why a lot of people look quiet.
And out of those five or six, how many?
The first one was the worst one, and then the other ones I left early.
Okay, so the worst one was Carl Wynn.
Carl Wynn's on Gash win. Yeah, I'm guessing.
Yeah, it did.
You know what I'm saying?
So you're busting the door, you didn't hear?
No, because you know how me, I like to joke and play and stuff like that.
So a nigga don't give a fuck.
So I'm just hearing like, ah, ah, like all that shit.
I'm like, oh, somebody wearing this bitch out on the crib.
So I go busting the door.
I look up, I see Carl's win.
So I'm like, oh shit, son, like this is crazy. Wow. why is that not being talked about more
son
I used to hear Carl Winslow's gay rumors too
and then when you rewatch he's a little wristy with the acting
but watching
what type of
madman are you
you're watching Family Matters and you're like
yo I gotta get that
I gotta fuck Carl Winslow like what the fuck man of you you're watching family matters and you like yo i need that i gotta get that i gotta
fuck carl winslow yeah like what the fuck you're you're you're diddy you got access to so many
people but that's your favorite you got the kid he likes tv dad bring up carl winslow so everybody
knows what you're watching him in that uniform got you bricked up. Are you a little proud that it was still a black man who's attracted to?
Black and black?
That's black love?
No.
What would Dr. Umar say?
And then the wild part about the video, the homie said he was wearing them out.
Wearing them out.
On Crip.
Wearing them out on Crip.
On Crip.
On Crip.
Yo, I had to kick in the door to see what the fuck was going on.
Who in here wearing this girl out like that?
God damn, man.
There were some beautiful women on Family Matters, bro.
And he does the voice for that.
Now I'm going to watch that show a little different.
Are we still live?
Yeah.
Oh, God bless the day.
I mean, God bless the delivery.
Oh, I'm thinking about that.
I know who I'm thinking about. Who are you thinking about? I'm thinking about that I know who I'm thinking about
Who are you thinking about?
I'm thinking about Phil
Yeah yeah
No
But same difference
Yo this is wild
This is wild
Oh James Avery
You thought it was James Avery
James Avery
No I knew it was him
But I just was getting him
Confused for a second
My whole point with this is
This is a wild story yo
So you know how wild
Your story's gotta be
Throughout this whole shit
Where this one just gets
Swept under the rug
Yeah Only person I saw Repost this was of course 50 How wild your story's got to be throughout this whole shit where this one just gets swept under the rug.
Yeah.
Only person I saw repost this was, of course, 50.
50 didn't miss shit.
50 didn't miss this.
Shout out to 52, man.
Shout out to 50. The inspiration for this book.
Oh, yeah.
What did he say?
What did he say?
He said, your idea to use my idea was a good idea.
What was that referencing?
Get Honest or Die Lying.
Get Rich or Die Trying.
No, I know it's a playoff of that, but that's what it was.
Did he say something on Breakfast Club?
No, no, no.
He was talking about this.
It's the title.
And he posted the book.
50 always reposts my books, though.
So I salute to 50.
Shout out to 50.
But then you commented that.
Oh, I'm taking the money.
I don't have any money by Monday.
Which Monday?
Listen, man. If 50 need me for something, I'm here.
You know what I mean?
That's all.
You might need me to voice some commercials for something.
He's got a bunch of TV shows.
He's got the studio in Louisiana.
It's all right.
It'll be fine.
You know what I mean?
I do love that he puts on a shirt for you.
That's why I basically grew up there
you did?
I spent like half my year
that my uncle and aunt lived out there
but I spent so many months in Shreveport
yo why do Indians like move to like
the most rural places in the south?
in that case
there's a need for doctors
and you can make a lot of money as a doctor
gotcha
most of the Indians out there
are really successful
because if you went to Shreveport, Louisiana
you had a fucking reason
you know what I mean? so I think a lot of times if you see to Shreveport, Louisiana, you had a fucking reason.
You know what I mean?
So I think a lot of times if you see Indians
in kind of like small,
this is just theory,
small kind of rural,
not many minority places,
there's money
that they're making.
They're not doing poorly.
People in Shreveport
made some money
from natural gas
living on that shale.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the city split.
There's like a
Bozier City.
Bozier City, Bozer City.
Shreveport's not that nice,
to be honest with you.
Maybe it got nice,
but I think it was called Ratchet City.
What is the name?
Hurricane Chris is from there?
I-N-D-E-E.
No, man, that's fucking Webby.
Who's Hurricane Chris is from?
Hurricane Chris sings,
Halle Berry, Halle Berry.
There you go.
Halle Berry.
It was like that in Columbus. Columbus south carolina had like a real heavy pocket of indians that's what aziz grew up yeah like me and my boy his dad's a doctor
right the university yeah i would imagine yep and me and my boy frosty used to always get paid to
do the indian part huntsville alabama got a lot of indians because there's a space center there
or something like that. Easiest crowd to DJ. Hey, baby.
Hey, baby.
Hey, baby.
Who the fuck sang Halle Berry?
I don't remember.
Easiest party is the DJ.
You know why?
Yeah, I know why.
Why?
The Jay-Z song.
That's all they wanted.
That's all they wanted.
They don't matter.
For all the people getting there and trying to play some other shit, I'll be talking like,
hey, man, let's get to it.
Fuck this small talk
let's get to Punjabi MC
and hours
the one song
over and over
I'm like wow
because they were so pleased
you knew it
you know what I mean
it's Punjabi MC
with Jay Z
who didn't know that record
who didn't know that record
it was unbelievable
that one song all night long.
Now, dance, get drunk, have a good time.
Sharla, man, speaking of rap, there
is a song that apparently you have done a cover of that's
out there right now.
What song?
Apparently, you've done a cover of Grippy.
Nah.
Sharla.
Sharla, stop it.
I don't know nothing about this.
KK and we be on big game.
I prefer rolling naked.
That's where I'm holding a plane.
This, this, this.
Green bean.
We got to get rid of AI, bro.
We got to get AI the fuck out of here.
Nah, don't to die.
You said it.
You didn't know it?
J. Cole, the reference track.
I never even heard that record.
I mean, I heard of it because everybody was talking about how bad J. Cole's verse was. What did you think about J. Cole the reference track. I never even heard that record. I mean, I heard of it because everybody was talking about
how bad J. Cole's verse was.
What did you think about J. Cole?
God damn, you bricked up again.
You talking about me talking about Brip-Bee.
Y'all see that song?
Brip-Bee.
You need to shake it off.
Y'all make that with A.I.?
Nah.
Yeah, we got to get rid of A.I.
We got to get rid of A.I.
What did you think of J. Cole's comeback song?
I didn't even listen to it.
Same. Same. I heard of it. I didn't even listen to it. Same.
I didn't even hear it.
I heard of it.
I heard people saying how bad it was.
I didn't even listen to it.
Now, we have another song also that you've rapped on.
All right, let's hear it.
All right, Mark.
Oh, this one's a banger, bro.
You haven't heard this?
There's a lot of radio play right now.
You know this one.
I've been a nasty girl.
Let's go!
Yo, D-Fun AI, yo.
Hey, match my freak.
Hey, match my nasty.
D-FUN-A-I
D-FUN-A-I
Wait till they start singing though
Cause it feels like
Everywhere in there hurts
That's scary
That is scary cause they nailed it
And it's probably easier with us
Since we got thousands of hours
That is scary, yo.
All right, one more.
We got one more banger for you, bro.
We got one more banger.
This one's an original.
Don't be doing Million Dollar Baby.
That's what I want.
This is a real one, though.
I'm sleeping well.
Look weak as hell. I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well.
I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. Yo, that's scary as fuck.
Well, we got to give credit because our boy Jake wrote it.
Yeah.
And then they used...
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
So they basically...
Yeah, you can describe it, Mark.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So this dude is actually Jack.
Jack Champ.
I thought it was Jake for a long time.
Jack Harlow?
No. Basically. No, this dude is actually jack jack champ i thought it was jake for a long time jack harlow no basically no this dude jack he's a rapper and basically what he's able to do is he raps the song with his voice okay and then he takes your voice and then puts it on top
of his voice so it sounds like you're rapping it oh i think his name is jake it says in the email
jack maybe that's his rap name but jet his name is i think i fucked it up it's jack i called him
jake day one i met him at the garden
I said
yo what's up Jake
he's probably so nervous
he just did the garden
anyway
yo don't ever be afraid
to correct somebody
when they say your name wrong
my bad Jack
shit
let's fuck Miles' fault
yeah
fuck you Miles
anyway
but no he was
he's nice with it
so he wrote a
he wrote a couple
but this one's fire
that shit fire as fuck
you sound good
I'm just scared of this shit, yo.
I'm telling you.
What, you're going to get a bad boy deal?
No.
I'm going to say it was AI.
That's a world.
Somebody's going to use that to have a world leader set this shit off.
Yeah, that's possible.
It's only a matter of time.
That's possible.
Because that could just be something that can be broadcast over a social
media platform. How would it sound if Kim Jong-un was
gonna...
I bet you if you do that, you'll realize
how much regulations they got on this shit. Yeah, they got some.
I bet you if you do that,
like have Putin or Kim...
What's his fucking name? Kim Jong-un.
Yeah. Or Xi Jinping. Exactly. The one from China.
If you have one of them say that
it's a nuclear threat, I bet you your computer will fucking freeze up. Yeah, explode. Exactly. The one from China. If you have one of them say that it's a nuclear threat, I bet you your computer will fucking
freeze up.
Yeah, explode.
Immediately.
Really?
But you can guarantee your advantage, too.
Let's say you say something, and they say, say I.
Y'all two years late.
I've been doing that.
What are you talking about?
There you go.
So it goes both ways.
I've been doing that.
Yeah, that's your trick.
Say I.
I don't even think people care about, you cannot care about old shit no more because of AI.
Thank God.
And that's going to be the crazy thing.
What a relief.
Because you don't know,
and that's the other scary part about life, right?
If you got to navigate through every single thing
that somebody puts on your table,
like before I even determine what my opinion
or feeling about it is,
I got to figure out if it's real first.
Who got time? Nah, don't have it. I ain't got time, so it is. I got to figure out if it's real first. Who got time?
Nah, don't have it.
I ain't got time, so fuck it.
I don't even care.
That's dangerous.
What do you think happens with the legislation shit?
Because I saw that, I think Scarlett Johansson,
I don't know if she was suing or she was complaining that...
She said her lawyers are looking into it.
Okay, they are.
So Chad GBT released the voice for their AI,
and it sounds like Scarlett Johansson.
In Her, which is a movie where she voices an AI.
Right, yeah.
And I think even Sam Altman, the guy who runs Chad GBT,
tweeted out Her.
Now, they also engaged Scarlett Johansson's agents
to see if they could use her voice,
and then they ended up not doing it.
I guess the point is, like,
and this is no different than anything else, right?
A new thing pops up,
and you have to find some legislation for it
to protect people's intellectual property.
Yeah.
But she should be able to sue if they're using her IP.
But I wonder, what is the legality of impressions?
So apparently the woman that they got to do this,
like, their defense is they say,
I know some people are saying it sounds like Scarlett Johansson.
She's saying that yada yada.
But we hired a voice actress that happens to have a similar intonation from a similar region.
Dove, do you remember the radio commercial in California when we were going to school that was an impression?
It was like for some auto thing, but it was an impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger, an impression of, it was like three or four impressions,
and it clearly wasn't those people,
but an impression is using their voice.
Do you remember that?
What was it for?
I don't know, but I guess I remember hearing this on the radio going,
how can they get away with this shit?
They're using somebody's likeness to promote a product
that they're not getting compensated for.
So can you just do an impression of somebody?
And if you can do an impression of people,
AI's impression is going to be perfect.
Is AI an impression though?
I think parody, you're allowed to do under parody maybe.
Whoa, whoa, that's a great point.
Sorry.
AI is not an impression.
It is the actual synthesis of that person's voice
where parody is an impression.
So AI is fraud. AI is an impression. So,
AI is fraud.
AI is identity theft.
Yeah.
That's why they took her voice down immediately.
Oh, so they stopped it?
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, as soon as
Carla complained,
they pulled it.
Oh, so that's an
admission of guilt,
but I still need some money
for paying the damages.
Yeah.
No, for real.
Because you had people
fucking asking me
about shit that I didn't
want to be asked about. Like, seriously, people were running up on me in the airport asking me about shit that I didn't want to be asked about.
Like, seriously.
People were running up on me in the airport asking me about whatever the fuck was on that commercial.
I don't know anything about it.
Interesting.
You know?
And now I feel stupid.
I don't want to feel stupid.
So you made me, put me in a position to feel stupid.
So I need some money for that.
Mm-hmm.
That's reasonable.
Damn.
I don't see the problem.
Don't sue us, Charlotte.
No, no, no.
Sue Jack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
When I sue, I sue big.
No, for real.
Lawsuits are hard.
Lawsuits are not easy to win.
So if you're going to win them, you might as well use the bad.
You got to get, yeah, because it's going to cost you money.
That's the thing people don't realize.
That's why I be so sad about this new generation of, like, broadcasters and everything, because
they're getting sued and stuff, not realizing.
In order for you to, if you get sued, you got to hire a lawyer to reply.
Oh.
That shit costs money. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hiring the, it just, man. That process is crazy. realizing in order for you to if you get sued you gotta hire a lawyer to reply oh that shit
costs money oh yeah just hiring the it just that process is crazy and what they don't realize is
sometimes bigger people like maybe yourself others have a lawyer on retainer so you're already paying
that's right and you want that guy to go to work i'm paying every month if we're not suing anybody
i'm wasting money that's right that's right that If we're not suing anybody, I'm wasting money. That's right. That's right. That's right. You never know.
You never know when a lawsuit is brewing.
You never know.
And you never know when one's going to sue.
When you're cooking something up.
Or when you might hit somebody with it.
That's right.
You never know.
That's right.
And the laws are fucked up now just because like-
They better save up.
You don't need a-
Some people don't even need a lawyer to file a suit.
And we live in an era-
That's what a lot of these cases are, right?
Because what happens in a lot of these cases cases these lawyers go to people and these lawyers say
hey um if you don't pay us x amount of dollars we're gonna go to the press with this story yeah
exactly and so now you got a lot of people that are like man i don't give a fuck that shit gonna
last and that shit gonna be in the news cycle 12 hours anyway whatever go do your thing we'll fight it in court but then you have some people who'll be like i don't want that
shit to get out of the room my reputation blah blah and that and so they'll pay it off i'm curious
why do you think diddy went so hard to not settle with cassie earlier like why did he actually allow
to get that ego yeah ego ego he didn't he didn't he got away
with it for decades you start knowing yeah but knowing the evidence sets out you start to believe
you're invincible and the delusion think about getting away with that for 20 years oj killed
his wife after beating her like 20 allegedly allegedly no he did beat her like 20 times
but then allegedly killed her allegedly killed her killed her. Allegedly. Yeah, I think the thing with Diddy is like, yeah, it's ego.
And if you think that you have this type of control over a person, you don't think that person would ever play with you.
You think that you put enough fear of God in this person or enough fear of Ciroc.
I don't fucking know.
Just enough fear of something to where this person would never cross you in that way, shape, or form.
this person would never cross you in that way shape or form but no this young lady went found her a new man who i'm sure and empowered her in in different ways poured into her gave her that
confidence and that scrim she needed and i'm not i'm not just giving all the credit to the man
but i'm sure that helped that's fine i like that but i'm sure that helped and she said fuck it
you know we're gonna now now let's do it, it is. Why do you think he was so fearless?
Because there's a lot of reasons
that he afraid.
I don't think he was.
We don't, see, that's the thing,
because we think he was fearless.
That motherfucker probably
was shaking in his boots at home.
We don't know.
You know, I was wondering,
I was wondering if Diddy was scared
to go after him because he's white.
Because he's blowing up Kid Cudi's car
for trying to go on a date with Cassie.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Blowing up, yo, I'll blow up your fucking car.
You're famous.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think there might have been
so much fear,
just like, he's a white dude.
This will be a different thing.
This is like...
Maybe.
Because he seemingly unscathed.
No cars got blown up of his.
His Toyota Yaris
didn't take a fucking...
You know what I mean?
Or maybe he not easily accessible
like a kid Cuddy would be.
You know, our kid Cuddy's...
But I've been wondering about that.
This guy stood up in the face of a lot of fear and i do give credit for that he never he never gave a
fuck but also he was in love you in love man you're gonna ride for your woman the same way he
probably gave cassie confidence cassie probably gave the husband mad confidence too and we don't
know the husband probably was a person who never gave a fuck anyway fuck y'all i ain't scared of
you niggas did he might not literally literally did he might not
have been like as concerned with public perception of some random white dude dating cassie oh but he
might be concerned that seems disrespectful that seems like it cuts out my power yeah my ex is
dating this other rapper that's valid yeah so and i think those types of people the sociopaths they they can only really
think about themselves and the power that they're exerting around them and if it looks as if
someone's chipping away at that power in any way they're like fuck you you gotta go down the
scariest part about that shit is the fact to what we've been saying the old pod is like that he just
was lying up until
the day before the video came.
These people are crazy.
Like if I knew that there was a video out there
that existed of me doing some shit like that,
I couldn't lie to myself.
Bro, I'll just shut the fuck up.
There's a, yeah.
I guess he thought he was safe
because he owned the video.
Yeah.
Well, he didn't know there was another copy.
So there's a video of Diddy.
He don't like Paris, does he? He only had one sock. He thought it was one video. He didn't realize there was another copy. So there's a video of Diddy. He don't like Paris, does he?
He only had one shot.
He thought it was one video.
He didn't realize there was a whole other fucking video out there.
Jesus Christ.
There's a video of Diddy that I look at completely different now.
But it's the video of him.
He makes a deal.
He's in some shitty office.
And then he slams the phone down.
He goes, I cannot be stopped.
I'm upset.
Have you seen that video?
We all know this video.
And I look at that completely different now. How do you look at it now just i am an absolute tyrant and i thrive so much off of conquest conquest and this is evidence of a conquest and it is fueling every
fiber of his being yeah i agree with that but it goes back to the same thing i said
about kanye those same things that make people great also make them fucked up and evil if you
don't have it in check it's the fire the fire can be a furnace that's right your whole building or
that's right destroy it that's right like you gotta have that shit in check like you gotta have
your your ego in check because that shit can go either way.
You can have this shit fuel you to greatness or it can be the thing that causes you to ultimately self-destruct.
Yeah.
That's why whatever it is that you're great at, whatever that energy is, whatever that gift is, you always got to make sure you're constantly using it for good because you can flip it in two seconds and use it for the foulest shit.
How have you stayed humble?
How have you checked your
your success and was it a process to get there success it's out success is not the check your
ego check your yeah it's the ego that needs checking to your success it's a constant like
you know what i'm saying like it's something you have to constantly do it's not something that you
that happens do you want so if you're lucky it happens to you one time and you reel it in i think mine is just knowing that all of this shit can be over
like it ain't none of this shit is guaranteed like think about all these people that we're
talking about had way more than we have currently not saying that we're not gonna get there but
yeah it can any anybody's legacy can be burned down. Any powerful dictator can be touched.
And by the way, any tyrant can be touched.
And it's not even always somebody taking you out.
You're not exempted as ease.
You know what I'm saying?
Like anything can happen to you.
So I constantly just think about,
number one, losing it all.
Number two, honestly, I still think about what's after this
i'm not one of these people who's just like yolo fuck it we on earth after here it's over my
mindset is still there still might be something after this you want to be good and i want to be
good for that just in case yeah there's too much stories out there yeah of there being an afterlife
and you know what comes after this for some of this
not to be true
and how about this
I don't want to keep
repeating my shit here
I did earth once
I'm cool
let's go to another dimension
you think once
maybe you come back more
maybe maybe
maybe because I haven't
figured out the lesson yet
so maybe this is the life
where I'm like
you know what
I finally figured it out
I've done what I came to do here
it's on to the next dimension
facts so that's that's literally my mindset all the time yeah have you talked about I'm like, you know what? I finally figured it out. I've done what I came to do here. It's on to the next dimension.
Facts.
So that's literally my mindset all the time.
Yeah.
Have you talked about your ayahuasca experience publicly?
Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
He said, what's up, too, by the way. Oh, where?
Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit.
I mean, that's actually where, like, I was writing this book,
but it was day two of my ayahuasca experience that made me um have a revelation and it was stop
lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lies to other people because we all wake up every day
and we throw on a mask right like and and sometimes you don't even mean to you just do it because
gets you through the day gets you through the motherfucking day.
So to walk around without the mask, to walk around without any sort of armor, to always be your vulnerable, authentic self, that's hard, bro.
That's difficult.
But day two of my ayahuasca journey, that came up.
And then that's when everything just started to flood in.
Like, yo, get honest or die lying like like because i kept saying i kept saying uh
true for die like it was like travel that was true for die like and then it just started rolling in
get honest or die lying get honest or die lying get honest or die lying and i realized that's what
my journey has been throughout my whole life trying to show up and be the most authentic
throughout my whole life trying to show up and be the most authentic honest version of myself as possible but what happens is you end up being real with everybody else except for yourself
because it's easy to do it's easy to it's easy to tell you your haircut's up
right no no i'm not saying your hair is up i'm just like it's easy to tell somebody else
specific example no i'm just saying i was just fucked up. I'm just saying. It's easy to tell somebody else. That was a very specific example.
No, I'm just saying.
I was just looking at him.
No, no.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
It's easy to call Alex gay.
Yes.
But have you explored your possible gayness?
No.
I'm just using these as examples.
That's a great example.
No, I'm just using these as examples.
The point is, it's easy to point out what you see in other people,
but it's hard to look in that mirror and point out your own.
Do you see homosexuality in Alex?
While you were on ayahuasca, did you?
Alex didn't come up for me.
He didn't come up.
But I'm telling you, ayahuasca, it is an amazing thing
because anything that you've ever suppressed in your life.
That's coming up.
Oh, my God.
So what'd you see?
My God.
Yeah, I want to know what you saw, what happened.
Diary of a CEO title?
Yeah.
I was trying to remember the title.
I can't do it.
I did, though.
Probably.
A lot of that did come up.
A lot of that did come up.
Can you tell us?
Come on.
You talked to Jay about it.
No, I didn't talk to Jay too much about it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I gave him enough.
The interesting thing is this all happened in February, so it's still a lot to process.
Got it.
You know what I'm saying?
So take your time with it.
You might have already spoken about this if you have.
I'm sorry.
What made you start the...
Was there like a tipping point where you're like, yo, I need to journey of mental health bettering myself etc or did it just kind of happen naturally
yeah 2016 i mean i feel i just i've always been on that journey it's the it's when you veer off
it's when you when it's when you're not being you it's when you're doing things that you know
aren't you i was losing i was losing myself to
this industry shit that's what i was losing myself to you know what i mean and and i mean not losing
it to where i would show up to a ditty party but losing it to where it's just like yo i don't even
move like this you know what i'm saying like it's not even my my style so it's like that's what
really got me on the journey of saying yo i, I got to figure this out. Plus dealing with the anxiety and the depression and finally having some money
and knowing what it was.
I never knew what it was before.
So now knowing what it was
and having the language for it
and knowing other people
who was going to therapy and shit,
that's what started me on my healing journey.
Because I remember going to therapy
being a big decision.
You would remember being like,
all right, I'm finally getting in.
For me, it was I'm with my girl. I love this this girl i keep getting in these big fights it keeps fucking things up i
gotta start working on this that's right so i'm curious if there was a thing for you where it's
not it was like the same thing you know i was fucking up my household yeah um and i just wasn't
happy yeah like genuinely should be you got every you got every fucking thing yeah genuinely just
was not happy that's that's why this weekend was so crazy
because I'm like,
I'm having a crazy ass panic attack
and I'm depressed
and I have no reason to feel like this.
I was like, you know what?
I am retarded.
I totally understand
why I'm in these fucking classes.
You're worried about that book coming out.
It was out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's still the vulnerability.
When I called my therapist Sunday, what did he say? He did say that to me. I released it. It was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my vulnerability. When I called my therapist Sunday, what did he say?
He did say that to me.
I wrote it down.
He said, anxiety comes with doing new things.
It's unhuman for it not to be, which I knew already.
But this panic attack Saturday was crazy.
Where was it?
I was at home.
Wow.
Watching what?
What the fuck was I watching?
We were watching something on TV because I kept going under the covers. What the fuck was I watching? We were watching something on TV.
Because I kept going under the covers.
What the fuck was I watching?
How can you not laugh at that?
Like, I want to be there for you, but that shit is super gay.
You and your wife watching something on TV and you running under the covers. I was.
You know what's so funny?
What?
I was on the couch like.
You know what's so funny? What?
I was on the couch like...
And his wife's like, don't worry, you'll be all right.
Now, I took three Tyson bites.
I should have only took one.
That's the part I didn't miss.
And I think they were sativa and not...
Oh, so you had your brain active.
Oh my God.
And you got this big thing underneath all of that. Oh my God. I think they were sativa and not oh so you had your brain oh my god
and you got this big thing
underneath all of that
oh my god
it's a real multiply
the only reason
I took three of them
is because
there was two
it was like two and a half
so it was like
ten milligrams a piece
so it was like
twenty five milligrams
and I just popped
and I'm like
what the fuck
is happening right now
yeah you had a pain attack
from marijuana
yeah stay off the weed yeah okay listen before we before we get out of here what the fuck is happening right now yeah you had a big impact from marijuana yeah
okay listen before we before we get out of here i'm sorry um i know there's a lot of people out
there probably relating with me like oh i have one i was on the cover just a drug guy
okay before we get out of here oh hold on That's a bar too My therapist told me
What
Cause you said addicts
Yeah
He said always remember
Cause I was talking about
The people
I hadn't even seen
No comments or anything
He said always remember
That the people on TV
And social media
Are addicted to attention
Yep
People in the comments
Are addicted to attention
And we don't listen
To people behaving
From the perspective of addicts.
Oh, fuck.
That's fire.
Straight up.
That's fire.
He said we don't listen to people behaving from the perspective of addicts.
That's fire.
And if we treated them like crackheads, all of a sudden we could laugh at their behavior a little bit more.
Now, mind you, growing up, there's definitely crackheads that I learned from, right?
But I learned what not to do.
So it's the same thing.
Why are we listening to these people who don't have their shit figured out?
We don't listen to people who speak from the perspective of addicts.
That's fire.
Yeah.
Now, listen, there's a chapter nine in your book, Before We Leave.
Yes.
Can I do one question before?
Yes, please.
How many more years of The Breakfast Club?
Oh, the hard questions.
I don't know.
I mean, you really don't know.
Like you die.
How many more years you want to do it?
I got a number.
I definitely I personally have a number.
But it's not even just Breakfast Club.
It's just being talent, period.
Is that a financial number?
Is that a year?
No, no, no, no.
It's not a financial number.
It's just like I like being behind the scenes a lot more nowadays.
I remember you telling me that at MSG, and that was interesting.
Is that what you see yourself transitioning to after you get out?
Yeah, I'm doing that now.
Like full-time?
Yeah, I'm executive producing.
I got my own book in print where we're putting out other people's books.
Me and Kevin Hart got the company SBH Productions with Audible.
We're executive producing all of that.
Audio is cryptic content that's going to turn into documentaries and movies and stuff in the future.
I'm getting in the movie game in a real way like that. What what was that movie you did um 88 yeah that's a political thriller but i got
i got another movie play that's going what do you talk about that not yet what do you like more
about being behind the scenes empowering other people watching other people get their shit off
watching watching other people become you know these great entities that people
so you enjoy watching i love that yeah same no i don't andrew i feel it diddy joe i feel it
I know you said it. He felt giddy.
What do you feel?
What do you feel?
What do you feel?
What's up?
I'm a nasty.
Guys, this has been Flagrant.
Make sure you go out and get Get Honest or Die Alive.
It's our third book.
Go get it right now.
We love you, brother.
We appreciate you.
Thank you so much for all the game over the years.
Wizard.
Everything you shared with me.
I need you to sign my copy.
And you're the fucking man.
We're going out there
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Asshole Army,
go grab this book,
you can get it digitally.
You did the reading
for it as well.
I did the audio.
Charlemagne's voice.
Mad people be running up on me
going,
Asshole Army.
Gang.
I'd be like,
oh shit.
Yeah.
It's a Diddy Party
saying right there.
Yo, it's crazy.
I've been having to
explain it to people.
If you're in the airport
and somebody just wants to do Asshole Army and it's like an old white lady you've been talking to, she's crazy. I've been having to explain it to people. If you're in the airport and somebody just wants to do
Asshole Army
and it's like an old white lady
you've been talking to,
she's like,
oh, what is that?
I'm like, oh, nah,
my man got a podcast.
I'll be telling him,
here we go.
We're going to gang, gang, gang.
We love y'all.
We appreciate y'all.
Peace.