Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Charlamagne tha God On Diddy Tape, Catching Gay, and Nuclear War

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

YERRR had to get on CTG on Flagrant to talk about Diddy, Ye, Nukes and also debut some exclusive new music from Charlamagne. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 1:04 Andrew is a civil rights hero 4:43 “Get Honest ...or Die Lying” + we want MEAT not small talk 10:18 Can Whites be acceptably offensive? Don’t mess with r-word strength 15:01 Charla was a school SNITCH + “I SAVED LIVES” 18:16 Self-snitching is dangerous + Diary of a CEO title is crazy 20:48 The Pope is back, baby! Can you catch gay? 27:11 Finger test + everyone’s gay = be who you are 31:15 The new F-word + Starbucks makes you strictly sickly 32:43 Every side using Charla + Dems doesn’t create narratives 39:19 Campaign on student loans + impact ordinary people 49:23 Over for Ye? Diddy using God + Don’t talk about it, be about it 58:23 Dinos were gay so God punished them 1:00:38 Social media is dangerous + our memory is limited 1:08:59 Bring back stories of Hell + what unites Americans? 1:11:19 Nuclear war abyss, regime change justifiable + Iran PM was inside job? 1:21:25 Does American industry need Putin? 1:25:20 We faking nukes? D-jokes setups + we live in the best times 1:28:49 If you’re gonna sell out - do it properly at least 1:32:31 Do your googles + Nicki Minaj arrest 1:34:56 If you could grift, what would you choose? 1:38:51 Diddy, avoiding real issues, gay smokescreen & power lust 1:47:39 Carl Winslow got worn out? + Shoutout to 50 Cent 1:53:18 Charla’s “Grippy” + AI is scary 1:58:25 Scarlett Johansson issue with OpenAI’s voice 2:00:53 Lawsuits aren’t cheap, Diddy’s chutzpah + “I’m a savage” 2:06:51 How does Charla check himself? 2:08:38 Charla’s ayahuasca experience + easy to criticise others, not look at yourself 2:11:30 Charla taking mental health so seriously + Panic Attack Sunday 2:14:53 People’s addiction to attention 2:15:54 How many more years of the Breakfast Club?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What do white people do when the question or the thing they're thinking about could be offensive? Probably keep it to yourself. There's only a couple of white people that can do that. Andrew, Joe Rogan, maybe Theo Vaughn because he gives off autistic. So like I did a diary of CEOs. Oh man, the title was crazy. Crazy? What the f***?
Starting point is 00:00:20 A woman molested me as a kid. I cheated on my soulmate. Look at that thumbnail though. Look at this. I'm nailed down. This is crazy. It is wild that I'm not afraid, I can't be afraid of like somebody putting a in my ass. Wait, hold on. That would just, why wouldn't I?
Starting point is 00:00:36 I think there are a lot of people that are afraid that they'll catch gang. Nobody knows for a fact you can't catch. Brother, ew. I do have a friend that I do believe actually caught it. Talk to us! He did mushrooms. He started watching trans porn.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And then he started hooking up with dudes. Rewired his whole brain. And then he stopped hooking up with dudes after like six months. He was like, I'm not gay anymore. What do you mean with trans women, though? No, no, then he just started hooking up with full dudes. No, don't start with that.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Oh, OK, OK, OK. He didn't want no cut on it no more. Yeah, exactly. He wanted the pure. He wanted the pure. He wanted that. He wanted that. He wanted it.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Alex found out I'm a civil rights hero. Let's talk about it. No, we don't have to talk about it on air. It seems braggadocious. Off air, I think, was more appropriate. No, so you just had to say it right now. No, off air. I don't want to talk.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Are we recording? I don't want to talk about it on air. Off air, we can talk about I'm a civil rights hero abroad. It's not a story for me to tell. I would never say something like this. What happened? Who knows the story? Alex hit me. Are we recording? I'm a civil rights hero abroad. It's not a story for me to tell. I would never share something like this. What happened? Who knows the story? Alex hit me.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Are we recording? I don't want to waste this. Yes, we're recording. Okay. Oh, we're recording. Oh, wow. Okay. What a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Oh, so I'll wait. I'll tell it after. Yeah, yeah. You can tell it after. But if you guys want to know, no, I was in Columbia this past week. Which Columbia? Here's at the protest. Here's at the protest.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Okay. Maryland? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was there with a good friend of mine. He's from there, but pees back and forth here and there. He's starting a concierge business. And so he was showing us around and it was like it was amazing. And then he talked about the time that Schultz went there a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:02:00 and he was like, oh man, Schultz is such a good dude. I always remember Schultz was looking to buy his wife a ring or a pearl or something like that. And he was going into- Emerald, yeah. Oh, emerald, yeah. He was going into this jewelry store.
Starting point is 00:02:15 And the concierge service also comes with security to make sure you're good 24 seven. And the security's darker skin. They wouldn't let the security guy in the jewelry store. And Schultz was like, well, you guys just missed out on whatever amount of money he was going to pay for this ring because I'm not going in if he can't go in. G's up, dude. G's up. That has nothing to do with race. That has nothing to do with safety.
Starting point is 00:02:38 He was like, I'm not going in that door. No, it was safe in there. Yeah, in the store is safe. When he comes out, the security's still there. And then I thought, I was like, damn, if he just did that with me in Sweden. You were acting up, though. It's never enough. You were acting up.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It's never enough. You were fighting. Yeah, exactly. You're lucky he didn't leave you. No, I just stood my ground. No, no, no. They should understand that. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:01 No one else feels that way. You know, Zimmerman says the same thing, I just stood my ground. That's his point. Be careful about that. That's his point. What are you missing the whole joke? That's why I laughed like a fucking idiot. Oh, I can roll with a joke.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm being serious. I thought you were laughing because you were uncomfortable. Okay, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait. I just want to clarify. The reason why I didn't want to offer this store my business is because I had asked the security guard who happened to be black. If when we went in to buy the emeralds, while I was distracting them, if he could steal some.
Starting point is 00:03:45 That's right. And they picked up on it.ds while I was distracting them if he could steal some. That's right. And they picked up on it and then I just accused them of being racist, which I learned from Black Crack. Remember, you know, when you guys are planning to rob a store and then the white people are like, hey, why are you going to rob?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Why are you racist? What's crazy, one of the security guard already hit that place before. So they was like, no, not him. He's already been hit. They got a sign on the window. They're like, we fucking got you.
Starting point is 00:04:06 So you just assumed they was racist just because of the guy had darker skin? I did, bro. Damn. Well, not me. Your boy did. No, I did. Yeah, I did too. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I thought they weren't letting him in. I don't believe this story. Why? Why not? Okay. This actually happened? Maybe I just didn't want to buy a fucking stupid ring for my wife. Have you ever thought about that?
Starting point is 00:04:25 And I used their racism to my advantage. Smart. It saved a lot of money. That's it. Oh, that's so smart. My wife doesn't need an emerald. Okay. Because she got a diamond now, which is more expensive.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Talk my shit. Talk my shit, Sharla. Talk my shit, okay? We got Charlamagne Tha God and the motherfuckers. Brr, brr, brr, brr, brr. New book out now. Charlotte took my shit, okay? We got Charlamagne Tha God and the Mother of God. New book out now. Go cop it. Get Honest, a guideline why small talk sucks, baby.
Starting point is 00:04:55 My third book, my third literary baby. You know what's funny is that small talk specifically is something I'm so horrible at. It's unbelievable. Because you don't have time for it. Well, yeah, explain. We've talked about this before, but you have a good theory about why it is. I never knew that I didn't like small talk until our discussion, by the way. Because you like macro conversations. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You're the type of person, Andrew comes in hot. Whether it's in the group chat, whether it's on the podcast, whether it's on the stage, you want to get right to it. We don't have time for the pleasantries, the hi. I mean, hi's greetings are. We don't have time for the pleasantries, the hi. I mean, hi's,
Starting point is 00:05:27 greetings are cool. But it's like, then let's get into it. Then let's get into it. I feel anxiety when we're not getting into it. Yes, because we, because you know, like why are we eating appetizers?
Starting point is 00:05:34 We're hungry. This is so funny. We want the meat. You know what I'm saying? Pause. Bring the actual entree to the table. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's like everybody's just circling each other waiting to see who's going to say what first. Who's going to set it off. I wonder if this is why we got along like even so many years ago
Starting point is 00:05:52 because I remember like you would walk into a room and you would just drop some shit. Let's go. And then people would sometimes react like, oh my God, what's going on? And I would be relieved
Starting point is 00:06:01 because I'd be like, finally, this fake bullshit that we've got going on right here is done. Somebody said something that we all have to react to. That's right. And we either react to it by trying to ignore it, and then you get to call that person out by being fake. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Or that person just opened a floodgates, and now we're laying in. And everybody knows when you're doing it. Everybody knows when everybody's bullshitting each other. Do they? Are there people? I absolutely believe that they know. But what also this book does, it gives you permission
Starting point is 00:06:26 to not even have the big talk if you don't want to. Okay, so how do you tap out of that? Just simply say, I don't want to talk about this right now. Well, I then, when you do that, I go further. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:36 When it comes to conversation, no does not mean no. But that's true, though. I'm the same way, sadly, right? But then it's like, yo, you got to respect people's boundaries too. But also,
Starting point is 00:06:47 just tell people I don't want to talk about this right now. You're a big ass asshole because you're like the nicest guy when you walk in a room. You'll walk up to
Starting point is 00:06:53 every single person in the room and make them all feel comfortable. And then you'll be like, how much you paying taxes last year? I need it once.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Oh yeah. I don't need to captivate the whole room. When Shala walks in the room, I'm like, please don't be me. Don't be me. Don't target somebody. That's it. All you need is one.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Because once you get that one person in conversation, everybody's going to be like, what's so funny about it? What's so interesting over there? The next thing you know, they all start coming on over. And it's like, yeah, yeah. Now we're about to have a party. Okay? It's like, you ever see someone with autism doing that rock?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Jewish people? I feel like... That's so funny because I do have a joke about how Judaism and autism are the closest thing. Because when Jews pray, they're doing this. And when autistic people are just trying to hold back something, they're doing this. But that's what I feel like is going on in your head, right? Like in your head, I feel like when you're in that moment where everybody's bullshitting, I feel like you just rock it.
Starting point is 00:07:50 That's right. You're like, okay, who's gonna say it? That's right. And Diddy. And by the way, you know who knows that better than anybody, my wife. Wait, why? My wife would just be like, here you go.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She would be like, I could say one thing, she'd be like, here you go. Here you go. But it's like, yo, I could say one thing, she'd be like, here you go. Here you go. Here you go. But it's like, yo, I don't like it. Let's just have the conversation. Let's talk.
Starting point is 00:08:11 What I'm trying to say is most people, okay, most people do small talk because they're anxious. Most people do small talk because they don't have anything, because they're anxious and because they really don't have anything to say. For sure, for sure. But I also assume that it's inspired by, they just, they don't want to rock the boat they want everybody to get along they want everything to just be fine in this moment they have some anxiety but i feel like we don't like small talk because it makes us anxious yes because i know that y'all actually want to be talking about something bigger especially us because we're public figures and people hear us talk about things or they've heard us say something on the radio. I heard to say something a podcast
Starting point is 00:08:47 They've been waiting who knows how long to have this conversation with us now sometimes because I'm an asshole I'll stall you out. Okay, go meaning I'll just keep talking about everything else Everything else here just because I know The joy is gonna bring you to talk about whatever it is you know what i really love when you edging them edging them edging and they'd be like yeah so what do you think about did it and yo you know what else is crazy yo yo did you see what's going on outside just because you just keep pushing it off pushing it off pushing it off we're gonna talk about this when I'm ready to talk about it. Not when you're
Starting point is 00:09:26 ready to talk about it. Do you remember, so it was like the day or two before my wedding, and this is how I know I've cultivated a good group of people from young to old. It was the day before my wedding, you had that moment with Kamala. Do you remember that? Yes. The day before, yeah, the day before, yep. This guy was getting drone struck on the way into the wedding. People weren't even beating, there was no like, hey, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:09:46 They knew exactly who he was. Old and young walking up. Hey, I like what you did with Kamala. It was straight, no small talk. Yeah, yeah. Whispering to you, MAGA. Like, oh. That's how we converted them.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Hell MAGA. Like, what? Huh? But no, yes. But I like that too, because that also, when you walk into a room full of people that you may not know, it makes it easier to just open up conversation. Oh, it's so much better. Let's go. Because they have something they want to talk to you about.
Starting point is 00:10:16 So once again, there's no small talk. What do white people do when they don't want to have small talk, but the question or the thing they're thinking about could be offensive, what would you suggest to them? I would say, depends, I would find somebody that you trust, or you think you can trust. But what if they're not there? White person in a room full of black people. Probably keep it to yourself. So you're saying just do a small talk? What if they need, what if? What if they're like, why are you guys responsible for half of the murder? If you think it's going to go wrong, just don't even bring it up.
Starting point is 00:10:56 But you can't. You start rocking. You're getting the rock. They're getting the rock. They're like a white you. What would you do? Nah, you can't. See, that's the privilege of being black.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Oh, so you guys just get to say. There's only a couple of. What would you do? Nah, you can't. You're not. See, that's the privilege of being black. Oh, so you guys just get to say- There's only a couple of white people that can do that. Andrew, Joe Rogan, maybe Theo Vaughn because he gives off autistic. You know what I'm saying? No, just because he gives it off- He doesn't pretend to be retarded. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah, yeah. Because they'll just laugh. They'll be like, ah, he's so great. Is that why all these celebrities are pretending they're retarded now, so they can get away with saying things? Do you have an excuse? Maybe. Yeah, she was hysterical. Because they'll just laugh. They'll be like, ah! Is that why all these celebrities are pretending they're retarded now? So they can get away with saying things? You have an excuse.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Maybe. I mean, I think you're probably a little, you know. I was in the slow class for real, though. No. I was. No, I mean emotionally retarded. I don't mean, you're one of the smartest people I've ever met, but emotionally, you got a little Asperger.
Starting point is 00:11:40 But I failed a standardized test, and I was in one of those classes for like a semester. Really? Yeah, absolutely. I was in the class with the people I used to tease Retardation doesn't work just for summer And they put me in this class with kids who had other learning disabilities tell me what did you learn from that? They strong This one kid so much.
Starting point is 00:12:07 His name, I don't even want to say his name because he, who knows? He's gotten stronger now. He might not even be Flo no more. You know what I'm saying? It might have just been a high school kid. That's right. He'll pull up. Right?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Well, we used to call him Peter Pan. Why? Because whenever you went up to him and whispered, Peter Pan is dead, he would lose his shit. I mean, Peter Pan is not dead! He would go crazy. So we'd call him Peter Pan is dead. He would lose his shit. I mean, Peter Pan is not dead! He would go crazy. So we called him Peter Pan. So we was in chorus class and we were singing like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
Starting point is 00:12:33 and I changed it to like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindog. He'd lose his fucking, it's deer you fucking idiot! It's deer! So when I ended up in the class with this kid, right? Even though I really felt bad for myself, right? Cause I'm in this class, I'm like, what the class with this kid, right? Even though I really felt bad for myself, right? Because I'm in this class. I'm like, what the fuck is going on, right?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Because you're not retarded. No. You're in a retarded class. You're brilliant. Your mom is a teacher. Yes. So they would have these kids at the computer. We'd be sitting at the desk.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So it's like my desk. They let the retards play with the computers? Yeah. Would they just start? It was like Oregon Trail, man. It wasn't plugged in, don't worry. By the way, I don't know what they were doing on the computers. I just remember they used to be on the computers.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And so I'm sitting behind him, and he's typing, and I'm just whispering to him, going crazy. And he's losing his mind, but I'm acting like I'm not doing nothing, right? So I'm just looking around like, yo, what's up? And the teacher's like, what's wrong? Like, he's talking to the kid. What's wrong? What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:13:23 And he goes goes it's Larry McKenzie the big nose idiot like holy shit wait what race is this guy to call you a big idiot yeah that feels a little way but for him he might be too retarded I didn't even know he knew my name right so not only did he say my full name yeah he hit me with a joke that everybody used to hit me with in school no. I was bulky nose Yeah, but no racism. It was pure. It's right you right right if you're like a race person That's your moment where you're your boiling point you drop the word you're right, but he just called you a big nose He knows he's a pure kind. Oh, you bullied a pure kind soul. How dare you big nose nigga would it hit though?
Starting point is 00:14:04 Racist retarded is crazy, but that would have hit though. Now I'm saying, racist retarded is crazy, but that would have hit crazy in that moment. That would have hit kind of crazy. Can you accuse a retarded person of racism? No. Nah, you can't, right? Well, you can try.
Starting point is 00:14:18 But no, that's not going to stick. Yeah, it's not going to stick. They have more struggle than you, so they're fine. They have immunity. You think so? Most things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I mean, wow. If you got called the N-word by a retarded person. You deserved it. You kind of deserved it. Like, what the fuck were you doing? By the way, everything I did to those kids back then, all of the jokes, everything I got, I deserved it. Really? What did you get?
Starting point is 00:14:42 The success, millions of dollars. Yeah, that's got to be one of that. Everything that I've got in my life has karma for bullying retarded people. Houses all around the world. Vacations in a villa. I deserved all this success. He's like a vampire.
Starting point is 00:15:00 I'm talking about back then, man. I remember when I was writing for your show on MTV2, you told a story that stuck with me for years. What was it? Where there was a kid. You guys were like doing some real thug type shit. And this kid was not, but he was trying to fit in with you all. Said he had a gun.
Starting point is 00:15:12 You had him bring the gun to school, then reported him to the cops. And then watched him get arrested and ruined his life. That story haunts me. It haunts me to this day. I don't know if I ruined his life. You can't be bringing guns to school, yo. I feel like I I ruined his life. You can't be bringing guns to school, yo. I feel like I did my civic duty.
Starting point is 00:15:26 You can't be bringing guns to school, yo. You shouldn't have been bringing guns to school. You might have saved a life. Exactly. No, you stopped the school shooting. Exactly. Why does this kid got a gun? Why do you have a gun at school, bro?
Starting point is 00:15:35 Yo, thank you. That's good. Why would you show me this on the way to school? A retarded kid with a gun. Yeah. I don't even know if you were retarded. Why would you have a gun? I was dead.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, no. OK, OK. When they put you back in the regular class was there an acknowledgement from the teachers were they ever like yo that was our bad yo you're not as retarded no i failed the standard honest test i never got on track in high school ever what do you mean like i never got on track like i failed i failed you were slow in more ways i failed seventh and eighth grade, had to go to summer school. Ninth grade, I failed.
Starting point is 00:16:08 My dad was like, fuck that, made me stay back. So I never got on track. I graduated in ninth school. Really? Yeah, so ninth and tenth grade. Ninth and tenth grade was the farthest I got in high school. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:16:18 So you got like a GD. And I got kicked out of one school. I got kicked out of Berkeley High School. And then I was in Stratford High School and I got arrested out of one school. I got kicked out of Berkeley High School. And then I was in Scrafford High School. And I got arrested from Scrafford and did 45 days in jail. At what age? Ooh, I don't know, 16, 17? Did you see that kid that you reported for bringing the gun into school?
Starting point is 00:16:36 No. Did you guys cross paths at all? I don't know which guy you're talking about. Because it was more than one. All right. Guns, weed. You got like $100 for a gun, maybe $1.50. Oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And you got like a guy like you. You think I would do it for no reason? Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. You think I was doing it for no fucking reason? That's crazy. That's entrapment.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I know. What you mean? That's crazy. But you can't convince them to come and score the gun. No, I didn't convince them. It was just a reward. They used to reward you. They used to say,
Starting point is 00:17:09 hey, if you see... So they collected the money washed from the roof and he got arrested laughing. If you see something, say something. Yeah, I like that. So, hey,
Starting point is 00:17:15 he got weed on him. I feel like you looking at me saying that was a little racist. You see something, say something, make a direct eye contact for the first time in the whole podcast?
Starting point is 00:17:24 What's that about? No. It was just a thing. Like, I did my civic duty. And it was for all the wrong reasons. It was for all the wrong reasons because I was only doing it for the money. But who knows how many lives I made? You might have saved a lot of lives.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Who knows how many lives I made? You're a fucking hero. Yo, even turning people in for weed. Weed is a gateway drug. Okay? What if those people would have thought of smoking weed in high school and went on to stronger things? That's true. I saved lives, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. Gateway to what? The prison industrial complex? Yeah. Crack! That is amazing. Which you sold? I know. You're worried about the little things, bro. You're worried about micro.
Starting point is 00:17:59 We're supposed to be talking about macro. We're supposed to be talking about micro. Let's talk about macro. Macro. No more small talk. No more small talk. No more small talk, bro. Exactly. Exactly. Do you ever look back at shit that you shared about yourself?
Starting point is 00:18:13 Like, remember when you do like the runs in the beginning saying who you are? Oh my God. Do you ever look back at those things and be like, I should have small talked? Yeah. I was having a panic attack this weekend thinking about that shit, yo. Because just like putting out a book i don't know i don't know how it feels like when y'all do y'all comedy right but when you put something out to the world yeah yeah and you know everybody is going through it in that moment with
Starting point is 00:18:35 a fine two cup like i was sitting at home like yo it's mad people reading this book right now yo should i have said shared this should i have yeah and, you know, I did mad book signings last week. So people were coming with both my books. And I'm like, all three of my books. And I'm like, oh, shit. And kind of with a book, the thing that gets the most publicity is the most vulnerable person. That's what the media is going to pass around. Charlamagne in his new book said X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Absolutely. And we live in an era where people take everything. I don't want to say out of context, but they just put things through their lens and their filter. Basically, they put things through the lens of what they know is going to get their website the most clicks, the most engagement. So I did a diary of the CEO this week. The man's title was crazy. Crazy? What the fuck? I'm sorry for myself. I was like Wait, don't say it. I'm like, wait a minute. I'm sorry for myself. I was like, I've been telling this story for years. I ain't never seen this shit work.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And I felt so bad because I told you to go in there. That's what it says. I was like, damn, they set this thing up. Charlamagne Tha God. A woman molested me as a kid. I cheated on my soulmate. What the fuck? Bro.
Starting point is 00:19:44 What the fuck? Who. What the fuck? Who's clicking that? Bro, I don't know. That makes it seem like your soulmate is a person that molested you. It's really crazy putting those back to back.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really crazy. This shit, bro. A woman molested me is a good exclamation point. That's the worst part. Why is there excitement around this?
Starting point is 00:20:01 A woman is a molester. Is it good? Say it how you... Say it how you... Did you hear how I saw that? This shit is an hour and a half long. You've heard me tell this story a million times. I've written about it in my books.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Look at that thumbnail, though. This is crazy. That shit... I'm not going to lie, though. Has your wife seen that thumbnail? I don't think so. I hope not. That shit was crazy. That shit. Bro, I said I should have. I'm not gonna lie, yo. Has your wife seen that thumbnail? I don't think so. I hope not. That shit was crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I felt so bad because I told him to go on that show, too. But is that story even in this book? That was from old books. I mean, no, no, no, no. I do because I talk about, in this book, I talk about my father telling me about how, and when I confronted him about cheating on my mom, and he was like, you only got one girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Yeah. So that's for me. Yo, can I just say, about cheating on my mom, and he was like, you only got one girlfriend? Yeah. So that's what it is. Yo, can I just say, that's an all-time response. Yeah, it's really unbelievable. Charlemagne goes to his dad and confronts him for cheating on his mom, and his dad looks back at Charlemagne and goes, what are you, gay? You only got one. Nah, nah, this is the 90s.
Starting point is 00:21:00 He didn't say gay. He didn't water his pants. He's acting like the Pope. Oh my God. Did you see that? That's true. Yo, Mark hits me up last night late.
Starting point is 00:21:11 He goes, Catholicism is back. Damn. It's up. The boys are back, bro. But that's how you get away. Define Catholicism for me.
Starting point is 00:21:18 What is that? Catholic. Christians. Oh, okay, okay. I feel like I got one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 What is it? Like all Why is it back? Because they used to use gay slurs? I mean Catholicism was like Running the world for a long time And it kind of lost influence Oh
Starting point is 00:21:33 But also This Pope got real soft He got really And the Pope got soft And he kind of got weird I know that you don't want Catholics To be homophobic or whatever At the same time
Starting point is 00:21:42 If they all were homophobic They would stop molesting the boys. So in a way, Catholic homophobia makes it safer for altar boys. That's true. Chew on that.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Maybe that's why he's doing it. Chew on that. That's what they told the altar boys. You know what I'm saying? Oh. I think homophobia
Starting point is 00:21:59 within Catholicism is the best possible thing right now for the safety of young boys. It's essential. It should be mandatory. For the safety of young boys. I care for the safety of young boys. It's essential. It should be mandatory. For the safety of young boys. I care about the safety of young boys.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Most people that are, like, closeted act like that towards gay people anyway. Yeah, but... Most people that are closeted act homophobic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're just ashamed about being gay. Yeah, but you can also just be homophobic, can't you? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Sometimes that's just... I don't know any real homophobic people, yo. I am. I don't know real ones. Like, I know people who get know any real homophobic people yo I am I don't know I don't know real ones like I know people who get accused of being homophobic
Starting point is 00:22:29 I don't know people that are like I hate gay people I don't like the lifestyle what about people because even the religious folks mask it under the guise of religion
Starting point is 00:22:37 I don't no no no I don't even the religious people mask it under the guise of religion did you just like stop hanging out
Starting point is 00:22:43 with all your black friends or what happened we've never been homophobic. We just like to, they use the F word for people that aren't gay. I actually think it is homophobia in the terms of like the fear of it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like I think, I think, that's fair. I think there are a lot of people that are afraid that they'll catch a game. I grew up in the South. That's a thing.
Starting point is 00:22:59 There's this guy that I watch. He's on TikTok, right? He's a Spanish dude. Okay. I don't know. He's Puerto Rican or whatever. He's on Instagram. I don't know what, I wish I had his name as shout out. This is nonsense. Thisok right he's a spanish dude okay i don't know he's puerto rican or whatever he's on instagram i don't know what i wish i had his name is shadow this is nonsense this is he does one game he's in a mall and he goes uh he goes he goes do you speak english or spanish and then the person that he stops or the people he stops go uh english for example he goes
Starting point is 00:23:18 the first person that moves is gay and then they just sit there for a minute on tiktok every time it's black people he goes up to you guys do you speak english or spanish they go english and he goes the first person that moves is gay and the black people just go no i had a dude i remember i was 25 and he had a gay roommate or i was 24 and he was 25 or something like that and he was like no i had a dude i remember i was 25 and he had a gay roommate or i was 24 and he was 25 or something like that and he was like no i'm not tripping off that shit no more once i found out you couldn't catch that shit i said it's no big deal i was like dog you are in your mid-20s what the fuck is happening well by the way why don't people act like as a man why do we know we can't catch it i think that's more important i don't know nobody knows for a fact you can't catch i don't think
Starting point is 00:24:04 it's contagious right i'm not saying it's contagious's... Nobody knows for a fact you can't catch it. I don't think it's contagious. Right? I'm not saying it's contagious, but like... I do have a friend that I do believe actually caught it. Talk to us! He did mushrooms
Starting point is 00:24:10 and he was watching porn on the internet and he started watching trans porn. Rewired his whole brain. And then he started hooking up with dudes. Rewired his whole brain. And then he stopped
Starting point is 00:24:19 hooking up with dudes after like six months. He was like, I'm not gay anymore. Can I... No. That's not gay. Your friend is gay.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah, you're right. Not anymore, not anymore. What do you mean with trans women though? No, no, no. Then he just started hooking up with full dudes. Oh, don't start with that.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Oh, okay, okay, okay. He didn't want no cut on it no more. Yeah, exactly. He wanted the pure. He wanted the pure. Pure. He wanted that pure D. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Yo! Put the baking soda in the cup. That's the cut. That's the cut. No baby laxative. Just straight up. Put the baking soda in the cup. I respect it. That's the cut. That's the cut. No, baby, go get the pure D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pure D. I ain't mad at it.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, yeah. No, but this is why I think you can't catch gay, and I'll be honest with you. I have a friend who is married to an identical twin, okay? You guys have all met her. Her husband has an identical twin that means their genetic makeup is identical so there's a man out there that looks just like her no no no it looks just she's married her husband has an identical twin oh got you got you got you got and the her husband is obviously straight they have children straight oh her Her husband's brother is an identical twin, all the same genetic material.
Starting point is 00:25:27 100% genetic match. Is gay. Okay. So he caught it. He has to have caught it. Caught what? Gay! A good time?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Because that's all it was. You caught a good time. You were attracted to somebody. No, no, no. You slept with him. I understand what he's saying. He's saying if one person is gay and one person is straight, and they are 100% genetic match
Starting point is 00:25:45 down to every fucking elite. It's not the genetics. Then that person may not. It's the vaccine. It's the vaccine. She's a beard. It's the vaccine. She's a beard.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Oh, they're both gay? There's gotta be scientific studies about... I'm sorry, sir. There are scientific studies. You could catch it. There's gotta be scientific studies about what you're attracted to and why, right? No. It's not?
Starting point is 00:26:08 Really? It's got to be. It's got to be. It's got to be. No. It's got to be a scientific study. Why would anybody do that? That shit is gay, bro.
Starting point is 00:26:15 You going to be studying gay all day? That's fucking gay. It is crazy that we can't. We just want to do that. I'm not, it is wild that I'm not afraid, I can't be afraid of like somebody putting a dick in my ass. Wait, hold on. That wouldn't, why wouldn't, I'm not gonna. I see what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You know what I'm saying? He's saying homophobia is not the craziest thing. I'm talking about the pain of it. Yeah, the pain of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Lil' Kim, when Lil' Kim said, I used to be scared of the dick, now I throw lips to the shit. There had to be a point in Bottom's life where Bottom was like, I was scared of that dick, even though I was attracted to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 But then when they started taking that shit, they weren't afraid no more. So there has to be an initial fear. So was that Bottom homophobic? He was. Initially? Probably. Initially, yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Homophobia is probably the wrong term. That's what I'm saying. I don't know people who hate gay people. If you can't catch it, I think that's the right term, though. If we do determine that you can catch gay, meaning that there are environmental factors that could affect you and you become gay. Have you ever heard of the finger test?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Have you ever heard of the finger test? If two of your fingers are in a guy's ass, you're gay. Just you? Apparently, this is a thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you seen this? I've been taking a hammer to my pointer finger ever since I saw that shit. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:27:28 What the fuck? Am I reading this shit? I want people out there that's watching this, I know that there's people who hate gay people. I just don't know any, is what I'm saying. Got you. Look how straight my hand is. Wait, wait. Yo, the funniest thing, can I say the funniest thing about this test is it forces you to
Starting point is 00:27:42 be like this. What is that, when you wipe? No. You don't put an extra finger on your wipe. Why are you giving yourself prostate tests, bro? If your pointer finger is longer than your ring finger, you get. Oh, shit. I'm sitting here thinking.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You're straight, bro. You're straight. You're good. You're straight. No, no, no. This is not accurate. Whoa. Al, let me see you.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Are you saying the guy? Don't you say that. The guy who's nails are fake, dude. The guy's nails are fake, dude. Al, throw your suit up. The guy whose nails are fake, dude. Hold on, what the fuck? There's nothing scientific. Yo, Al!
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's true. So hold on, what is it now? She ho! If your ring finger's longer than your index finger? You're straight, man. Oh, he's gay too? You're straight. No, he's straight.
Starting point is 00:28:18 If this one is longer, he's straight. I'm going to be honest. This is my index. I barely made it, and that checks out. No, look. If the ring finger is longer, you're gay. Nah. My ring finger ain't longer. No. Oh, wait. If the right finger is longer, you're gay. Nah. My right finger ain't longer.
Starting point is 00:28:26 No. Wait, I didn't... My right finger is not longer. This might be for women. This might be for women. Oh, wait, if this is backwards, then we good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:32 This is absolutely scientific. This is for women. It's backwards for men. Yeah, y'all got a little scared. Why were you so defensive? Why were you so defensive, bro? I wasn't scared. I knew.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Because I take it so... I've been doing these things so defensively. Everybody's a little gay, bro. Yo, Charlotte, stop. Stop. bro. Yo, Sharla, stop. Stop. Stop. Cut it out.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Just stop. Everybody's not. What's the gayest thing you ever did? Wipe my ass. No, no, drink water. Why does him drink water? Yo, he drinks water from the back. Listen.
Starting point is 00:28:55 What's up with that? What's up with that? Bro, I saw him really, he's spitting the water before he drank it. Bro, I had these conversations on Idiots before. Masturbation is gay. Mm-hmm. You sitting at home jacking off, looking in the mirror. you drank it. Bro, you had these conversations on idiots before. Masturbation is gay. You sitting at home jacking off, looking in the mirror. The mirror is crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Why is that? You added a whole wrinkle to that. I never looked in the mirror. That's gay. No, you right. That's gay. You looked down at yourself. You have done that.
Starting point is 00:29:18 You know what I'm saying? You shot it up in the air, tried to catch it. And I just laughed. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. John. Hold on. You never caught it in your bag like that Nike commercial? No, God damn. You're a different type of person if you do some shit like that. Wiping your ass? Why is that gay?
Starting point is 00:29:37 It is! How do you wipe your ass? It's a man's hand in your ass. But that's unnecessary. How deep are you going in? Going in the hole? Why not? That's weird. Are you going back to front? Are you going back to front?
Starting point is 00:29:46 Are you going back to front? Because you're definitely, yeah. Oh, no, no. You go the other direction. You go, you bend over. Why did you sniff? This guy doesn't know how to react. I just got to make sure, dog.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I just got to make sure I'm not bleeding. I think everybody got about this much, this much gay in them. I believe that. What does that mean? I believe that. Tell me what that means. What, this much gay? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:02 It's that Kinsey scale shit. The Kinsey, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually think that people who protest too much, they're going to be like, oh, I'm gay. I'm gay. does that mean? I believe that. Tell me what that means. What, this much gay? Yeah, yeah. Is that Kinsey scale shit? The Kinsey, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually think that people who protest too much
Starting point is 00:30:10 are like, ugh, something happened to you, bro. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? In general. Yeah, like, why are you so, like, why do you have to prove that you straight so bad?
Starting point is 00:30:19 You know what I'm saying? Some people would say because being gay is gross. I didn't say that. Who would say that? Some people would say because being gay is gross. I didn't say that. Who would say that? Some people would say that. Who would say that? To the Pope or...
Starting point is 00:30:28 Hey, hey, hey, Charlie. Charlie. Other guys like the Pope, basically. Hey, Charlie, man, get honest or die lying. Get honest or die lying on your stomach. Exactly. Okay? All right?
Starting point is 00:30:39 But this is what this is about. It's okay to be who you are. Be who you are. It's fun to be who you are in 2024. Unless you're homophobic and then you have to fake it. That's true. I don't think people are faking it no more. You think they're out there in the open with it?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Clearly. But none of them know what it is. If the Pope has decided to throw an F word around like it's nothing. He said it in Italian. It was different. He said it in Italian. Dude, the Italian word for it is... Faciale.
Starting point is 00:31:02 No, something like that. Actually, I don't know how to pronounce it. Let me find it. I think it's fragocini. Oh, yeah. What is it? It's froccijone. Froccijone.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Because frocci means gay. I thought frocci was a drink. Whoa. Don't they serve frocci at Starbucks? Froccijone. What is a frocci? That's how you say it in like derogatory ways. So you say it.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I'm not tripping, right? Yeah, frocci was a drink. Froccij Yeah. Hold up. So Starbucks is homophobic. We know that. We know that. What? We've known that about Starbucks.
Starting point is 00:31:33 So hold up. Starbucks is out here serving drinks that are Italian gay slurs. Yeah. And nobody says anything. You never had a double venti? With extra cream.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And a long straw. Yo, that is gay. If you choose a long straw for a short drink, you gay. Let's just call that out right now. If you choose the long, because it's even wider, for a small drink at Starbucks, you are homosexual. That's facts. That is a fact. Can we write a law about that?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Shout out to the LGBTQ community, man. What are you about to show me, Mark? This shit froze really quick. Hang on. Look at you. You're all bricked up. Yeah. I'm a little bit, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:27 He's like, I'm about to get my venti-frag-machina right now. Okay. So, Charlamagne, how is... Kosh had to leave the room. He got so bricked up. He got, he got, he got. That's crazy. He's like, that's why my finger's longer.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I need to try this one. All right, so, Charlamagneagne how is the media going to uh use everything that you've said uh to benefit whatever platform they are they're on well it's been interesting is that stressful knowing that like have you guys seen this i should like put context so obviously i'm very but like charlamagne will be used by every side of the media to prove whatever their agenda is. So is there a new stress that comes with that now? No, you know, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:10 The right does a phenomenal job of pushing their narratives. Whatever their narrative is, you know, like for the past few months, it's been, you know, black people are moving away from Democrats. Donald Trump has like what, 22% of black people say right now they'll vote for Donald Trump. I think that's a little overstated. But they're anything that pushes that narrative they're for it. So and it's been like this probably for the past eight, nine months. So if I'm critical of the Democratic
Starting point is 00:33:36 Party. They lock in. Regardless of anything else I say about Trump they lock in on that. Do you think Fox has assigned a person to your media? Meaning it's just, it's an intern and it's their job to find a cool...
Starting point is 00:33:50 That's a good question. It's so targeted. I'm really an idiots fan probably. Yo, low key, I wonder. That's a good question. Because it's like... I think so, because it happens the same day.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's the era we live in too though. But here's the thing that was so interesting about that. I don't think Fox is checking Breakfast Club all the time. I think so. Really? I mean, it depends who's on it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I think it's not like this out of the ordinary, right? It's like when we have political guests on, right? And we do do a segment every morning called Front Page News. So you kind of just got to tune into that to hear what the political takes are for the most part. But I think what's interesting is the left never finds a way to create its own narratives the left just responds to whatever the right puts out there and it calls them racist or sexist yes or calls me a MAGA supporter or whatever so i could literally say in the same sentence this happened on john carl show i can say donald trump was a threat to
Starting point is 00:34:40 democracy you know he wanted to suspend the constitution over the results of an election but joe biden's an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy fox don't give a fuck about Donald Trump was a threat to democracy. You know, he wanted to suspend the Constitution and overthrow the results of an election. But Joe Biden's an uninspiring candidate with no main character energy. Fox don't give a fuck about that first part. That second part. Give me that. This is what I want. I want the uninspiring candidate, main character energy.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And so everybody on the left replies to that as if I didn't just say this other stuff about Trump. It's the strangest thing in the world. But what I'm realizing is, especially after the... I knew this already, but this week showed me a lot. Because all the different type of press, like I did The View, I did like CBS This Morning, Miguel King. That clip was crazy, dog. That View clip, you handled it incredibly well.
Starting point is 00:35:15 I don't know what they wanted me to say. Can you give context to the clip for everybody? Well, yes, I said that I'm not endorsing anybody for president this year. And, you know, Sonny from The View basically was like, it was irresponsible of me to do that. And she said, this isn't the time to sit this out. This ain't the election to sit out. I never said I was sitting out. Never once have I said I'm sitting out.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Never once have I said I'm not voting. None of these things have happened. All I'm simply doing is being critical of both parties. But you should. And my interest this year is, one of both parties but you should and my interest this year is one of my interests is preserving democracy right so i'm gonna vote for whoever i think can preserve you know uh democracy but the democratic candidates are so weak that their only hope is vote against it's so silly that's all they have but but you know i say
Starting point is 00:36:00 i've told other personalities in media that y'all spend so much time talking, talking about how bad Trump is. You never tell me what you are. Things that Biden is doing. Do it. And then you wonder why people say, well, what the hell is Joe Biden doing? What the hell is Vice President Harris doing? Very true. I can't find out from the people who support them because your whole feed is how bad Trump is.
Starting point is 00:36:19 But to what Akash is saying, I think their whole angle is vote for not him. Yeah. And if your angles vote for not him, you just got to make him as bad as possible. Make him super radioactive. Because to your point, Biden is uninspiring, so I can't inspire you to vote for him in my brain. Democrats don't believe in Biden. Yeah. You know what the truth is?
Starting point is 00:36:33 It's not even about none of that. These motherfuckers care about ratings. Oh, very. They care about clicks. They care about engagement. Yeah. And the reality is Donald Trump moves the needle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 You know what I'm saying and not only does Donald Trump move the needle people who are supposedly left leaning criticizing Democrats moves the needle you know why? because it gets motherfuckers going on social media so if I saw the whole context of what Charlemagne said
Starting point is 00:37:00 fuck the whole context of what he said let's just take this part of him saying Joe Biden's uninspiring and then let's retweet it and somebody's gonna say this is the type of rhetoric that's gonna get donald trump elected and so then it turns into charlamagne don't know what the fuck you're talking about politics to charlamagne made little mama cry to charlamagne homophobic charlamagne transphobic charlamagne now it's just this whole thing about me in a lot of ways, but it all goes right back to that one original clip that's now probably got a hundred thousand retweets.
Starting point is 00:37:30 A million plus views. They make it look like you're supporting the other side. That's right. And then when it looks like you're supporting the other side, they have to make you radio act. That's right. They gotta attack your character to basically cut your legs out from under you so you don't inspire, influence people to support the other the other side when in reality if they just played the whole clip
Starting point is 00:37:49 everything would have been explained everything would have been explained and it probably would have been a better discussion yeah yeah well they don't want good discussions no they don't the one thing i don't understand is um the rock also said he's not endorsing anybody um uh taylor swift also said she's not endorsing anybody but Taylor Swift also said she's not endorsing anybody. But that I feel no one was outraged about. Because they need the black vote and Charlamagne is influential within the black community. The Rock ain't black to America. You know what I mean? Shout out to Rock.
Starting point is 00:38:21 That's true. But if The Rock dropped the N-word, we'd be like, hold on. Hold on. You'd have to remind us. You'd be like, oh, his dad is like, oh, that's my mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to do that. Can you smell it? What's this?
Starting point is 00:38:34 This guy had a whole rap song, didn't say the N-word. He knows people don't think he's black. I feel like Drake's more black than the rock. Like, the people look at Drake more black. Not right now. Not right now. Give him a The people look at Drake more black. Not right now. Give him a minute. He'll get it back. Not right now.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Not at this current moment. Yeah, not at this current moment. But it's interesting because even when I did Fox News, I did Brian Kilmeade's show on Fox. I'm doing Gutfeld. Well, we're taping this Tuesday. I'm doing Gutfeld tonight. Well, we're taping this Tuesday. I'm doing Gutfeld, you know, tonight. And the thing I've realized about them, they're not trying to push a narrative because they already know what their narrative is going to be.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I want the left to learn from the right and start just pushing the narrative that you want out there. That's the only way. What would it be if you were a Democratic strategist? What would you push out there that are the good things they're doing? For President Biden right now, I would be talking about the student loan debt a lot because those are the things that impact everyday people. Like those are the things that people can point to. I know people who've gotten their student loan debt wiped away. Like I know people personally who have gone to their accounts. Twenty thousand dollars. What does that mean? Wiped away? I don't understand what that means. You don't have to pay it back. You don't have to pay it back you don't have to pay it back it's over but i don't does the bank take pay the hell
Starting point is 00:39:49 or do taxpayers pay back the i don't know because i'm trying to understand like that's true what i assume it is is it's not wiped away what i assume it is is that burden is now displaced across 300 million americans miles it seems like you have the answer. A lot of Biden's things are helping people. Miles, hold on now. Are you answering the question that we're talking about right now or something completely unrelated? Yeah, the debt that's getting wiped away
Starting point is 00:40:15 is Biden helping people sign up for programs that would help, that were like government-sponsored programs that they didn't know they could get on, that they worked in like a public sector for 10 years and then their debt gets wiped away but what the question is what happens who's paying for it and what are you saying somebody has to pay take my assumption is that the american taxpayer shares that burden because there's no way the banks are just going well we'll just you know not take those few hundred million dollars for like fun so let's
Starting point is 00:40:41 say for example you teach for america get debt gets wiped away i guess that's the government being like what you do is noble enough in our eyes that we can pay off this we'll take care of this debt for you yes and that's coming out of government coffers and then we'll eventually when we talk about the government pays for something they don't have money that's our money so we pay for it sometimes but sometimes they can reallocate money from a different program but our money no but say a program's not oh yeah still taxpayer money i guess what i'm trying to say is like we look at it like the debt is wiped away it's not wiped away it's just put on taxpayers just add it to the deficit and we pay later yeah that's awesome and it's redistributed from money that's already there that's to an ineffectual program yeah then that's a positive thing dude they got rid of uh the
Starting point is 00:41:21 non-compete clause i'm not i'm not saying don't do. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying let's say what is happening. It's not like the banks are taking the L. I think that you'd have unanimous support if we all found out the banks were taking the L. Oh, Wells Fargo is going to have to eat that half a billion dollar. Hell yeah, run it up. It ain't that. Yeah. I mean, the guy, Mark, Alex Media, Akash, Dove, Miles Shifty, Andrew is also going to have to pay taxes.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Couldn't you do that with everything? If a politician was like, I'm going to cut taxes, he could also be like, hey, I'm going to stop giving as much money to poor people. You're just not going to do that. I'm going to make sure some programs get cut. Kids are not going to get breakfast at school. Makes sense to me. So basically, you're just framing it in a different way, right? But you can do that with anything.
Starting point is 00:42:03 If a politician gets up there and says, hey, I'm going to cut taxes, what he's also saying is there's a lot of government programs that are not going to get funded. Some underprivileged kids might not go to school because I'm cutting taxes, so y'all save money, but there's less to go to them.
Starting point is 00:42:14 You can do that with anything. What I would, the difference I would say is that we don't know if there's an increase in taxes to accommodate that burden. So that would be the difference between what you just said. Or cut spending.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Exactly. It's not cutting taxes. It's cutting spending or just adding to the deficit. Which they're never really doing, by the way. They're never really cutting spending. That just sounds good to say. They don't cut spending, bro. They just keep printing more money.
Starting point is 00:42:42 They really don't. Yeah. They don't cut spending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I guess, I don't cut spending bro they just keep printing more they really don't yeah they don't cut spending yeah yeah yeah so i i guess i don't know and i wonder what happens for people who uh they just finished paying off their student debt and now they're like holy shit if i waited you know 10 years then it would have done it you know i mean i like seeing everyday working class people get that kind of relief yeah like you can't lose with that right and and that's one of the things that people can
Starting point is 00:43:05 point to the same way when everybody talks about you know trump when they bring up the stimulus checks and the ppp loans and all of that stuff like that those are things that they can point to where they were provided relief motherfuckers will never forget when you provided them relief and think about when they got that relief during the worst time that we probably experienced in American history. Now, granted, they got the relief because of that worst time, because of that pandemic, but they don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:32 If you were three, four months behind on bills and all of a sudden you got a check in the mail, you'll never forget who gave you that shit. 100%. So that's what all presidents, all elected officials... So you're saying Biden is trying to buy the election. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:43:45 No, no, no. Andrew Yang tried to. Universal basic income, you—that's all—what do we care about in this country? We want money. Guns. Upward mobility and security. Yeah. That's all we ever want. We want money and to feel secure.
Starting point is 00:43:59 There's a certain level of security that money gives you. There's a certain level of security that being able to have your gun gives you that's what we want money and security anything that takes away from people's money and security you won't you won't lose god damn that was good yeah that was fucking good that's just the truth yeah yeah that is i was actually thinking other good things he did the breaking up non-compete clauses which have been an unfair thing for workers that's money though that's another thing they could push that biden did he's trying to break up monopolies like uh ticketmaster live nation right now they're trying to go after like i don't know how i feel about that though okay explain because i don't know much but yeah i don't know much either but just looking the way they even
Starting point is 00:44:34 when they're trying to even when they go after like the uh the social media platforms and stuff like that it's like america has been a country that has pushed free enterprise forever right you push capitalism forever so when you got all these people who took advantage of free market enterprise to build these entities yeah now that they're too big and too powerful and making too much money but there's a point to break them up there's a point at which they can kill the competition because they're just so big big bank take little bank that kills capitalism that kills entrepreneurship that kills competition no just don't get into the ticket business don't come over here
Starting point is 00:45:06 live initiative ticket master run your shit if there's enough of those what are you going to do the argument is that it kills free enterprise and then when there
Starting point is 00:45:13 is a monopoly it really punishes the consumer so when there's only one place where you can buy tickets they can start putting all these hidden fees
Starting point is 00:45:21 and extra fees and now the person buying the tickets is fucked whereas if you have three or four ticketing companies now those fees got to stay low which benefits the consumer and it actually benefits theoretically the artist too because we want our consumers like i see it sometimes and listen i'm with live nation right which is owned by
Starting point is 00:45:37 ticketmaster like the tour you know some of our dates are promoted by live nation but i see some of these fees and i'm like hold the fuck on like $30 fee on top of a ticket like one I'd rather I'd rather the people buying get to keep that money yeah yeah yeah you know
Starting point is 00:45:52 and they own the venue so he has no option on where to perform they control every aspect that's not true but because there are plenty of venues that you could perform
Starting point is 00:45:59 but there are ones that might be owned by Live Nation they also promote gigs at ones that aren't owned by Live Nation Kanye would like to know at ones that aren't owned by Live Nation. Kanye would like to know. He'd like for you to make a list so he can find those other videos.
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Starting point is 00:49:17 T-R-Y-F-U-M.com. Use the code FLAGRANT to get a free gift with your order today. Now, let's get back to the show. What's up? You think it's over for Kanye? Over in what sense? Just like it seems the interest has started to wane. Like, yeah, he inserted himself in the beef.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And no one cared. Well, that's because nobody cares about Kanye rapping. You know what I'm saying? Ooh, go on. So if Kanye would have done this 10 years ago, it's like, oh shit, Kanye inserted himself in the beef. Nobody gives a fuck about Kanye rapping in 2024. It's like walking around with your girl with the huge tits.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Especially when the guys that are rapping are the rappers that we actually want to hear from. Pretend to be a Christian while you promote a porn website. The idea that he's masquerading as this Christian with a fake wife, right? You're not even really married to her. You're starting a porn company. Where is this? They're not really married. Not in the eyes of God, right?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Do you know what I'm saying? And also, like, starting a porn company? Like, what the fuck is going on? Where is this Christianity? Everybody jumps to Christianity or jumps to religion when they need a fucking boost. You saw even Diddy when he came out in the apology. The first thing, I had to turn to God.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I had to forgive. Where was God when you was beating that girl up? I think the problem with humans is that... And butt-fucking guys a lot. Intellegently. Also watching guys butt-fucking. Yeah, videotaping guys butt-fucking. That's crazy. What's there? That's not even in the alphabet, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Like, it's LGBTQ. It ain't no fucking R. You and the video. You and the whole thing. No, no. WGBF. Like that's not in there, bro. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:50:54 That's gayer. That's gayer. That's not in there. I don't even remember. What the fuck was we talking about before? People using God. People using God when they get in trouble. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I think that the problem with people like, and that's not even a problem. Kanye is one of those people when he's in, he's all in, which is what makes him great. Right? Because when he focuses on one thing, he's going to focus on that one thing. And that's how you get a My Beautiful Dog Twisted Fantasy. That's how you get a college dropout. That's how you get a late registration. That's how you get these amazing sneakers, whatever it is, when he focuses on that one thing.
Starting point is 00:51:24 That's how you get these amazing sneakers, whatever it is, when he focuses on that one thing. So it's like if for that moment he's in the God, he's going to be the biggest Christian in the world. If he's in the anti-Semitism, he's going to be the biggest anti-Semite that ever existed. Like literally, that's who he is as a person. So it's just like. And that's a hard thing to do to be the biggest anti-Semite. My God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I mean, my God. There's some Jordan numbers out there. By the way, so big that he was calling out the biggest. No. You know what I'm saying? Like, getting the torch passed to him. Yeah. When you surpass everybody and your only competition you see is Hitler. Damn.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Whoa. Your idols become your rivals. That's wild. That's wild. But he's the type of person that whatever he's on, he's on. And I mean, it's a gift and a curse for somebody like him.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Because it's the same reason we got all those amazing things that I've mentioned. Right. But it's the same reason we get all the fuck shit too. Do you think that people do that though like do you see this a lot like when people need forgiveness when they need the public to change their tune lean into their relationship with god i think that's a natural thing because you think it's real you
Starting point is 00:52:41 don't think it's manipulated no i do think it's no i think it's real? You don't think it's manipulative? No, I do think it's real. I think you get to those points. No, no, no, I do. But then how do you explain God and porn website? Being a complex person. Being a human being. But wait, hold on. Answer the question, though. Do you think it's manipulative? No, I don't think it's manipulative because I think in those moments, they really do be needing God.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Interesting. I really feel that way. I really feel like you get to a point where you might hit a wall or you might hit rock bottom or you feel like every the walls are tumbling down the sky is falling all you have left is to turn to your creator okay at some point you gonna get down on your knees i'm so and i ain't talking about being signed a bad boy i'm talking about at some fucking point you're gonna have to bow down to your creative i know people that were atheists who totally believe in god now because of things that have happened in their life yeah you know and it's not always bad things here's the i have no that that's
Starting point is 00:53:37 i think wow you offered really great perspective on that for me because i'm like skeptical a lot so when i see people going through tough times and then they're like publicly displaying this love for God, I look at it like, oh, are they just trying to manipulate the most forgiving people? Because religious people are incredibly forgiving because a lot of them have went through incredible difficult things and then found God through that difficulty and then they've seen the light through it. So I have like the most, I'm almost protective of them because I go, the light through it. So I have like the most,
Starting point is 00:54:04 I'm almost protective of them because I go, you might be vulnerable to this piece of shit trying to take advantage of you. But that is interesting. When you are at the lowest point in your life, every single time,
Starting point is 00:54:14 and you are humbled, you might also seek that same salvation. Why do you think people find God in jail, in prison? Can I offer one counterpoint? Well, also the food is better
Starting point is 00:54:23 if you're Muslim in jail. Is it? Apparently, yeah, because you have to be halal. Oh. Yeah. So I offer one counterpoint? Well, also the food is better if you're Muslim in jail. Apparently, yeah, because you have to be halal. Oh. Yeah. So I think a lot of people convert to Islam for the food. That's crazy they still don't convert to Judaism. They don't let it happen.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Also, the Jewish food is... That's true. Actual question. There's a Bible verse that it hit me really hard at the time. I don't remember it super well. Matthew 6, essentially, your good deeds, your relationship with God is not real if you are out there displaying it publicly. So I'm inclined to believe Andrew, especially with Christians, when they suddenly find God very publicly because there is an actual Bible verse that says that's not going to get rewarded by God. The guy who doesn't let his left hand know what his right hand is doing when he's doing good deeds or whatever,
Starting point is 00:55:07 that is the guy that gets rewarded by God. But then they also tell us that we should champion God. We should publicly praise him. We should glorify him. I can't remember the exact word. Testify, testimony. We all should have a testimony with God too, though. And just like Charlotte was saying,
Starting point is 00:55:22 when Kanye goes in, he goes all in. He made an album, No Cursing. He was doing Sunday service every single Sunday and not charging for it. So it's like he was really all in
Starting point is 00:55:32 during that period of time. And I think if you get one of Kanye's first singles, that was massive with Jesus Waltz. That's true. So it's not like he always hasn't,
Starting point is 00:55:40 you know, had a relationship, you know, with God. Hmm. No, that's true's true yeah that's interesting yeah yeah maybe i have to have more of a an open mind with those i mean it's i get why you say that it's i just i just feel bad because i know that there are people who have been saved and they see
Starting point is 00:55:59 the power of god yeah so when other people also see the power of God, they go, oh, I remember being in that situation. And that sometimes is manipulative. Because I know, like, what I saw from Diddy to me was 100% manipulative. Diddy's always been a person that's talked about God. But here's the thing. It don't matter how much you talk about God. Yes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Be about it. Your actions. Word. One of my affirmations today when I was reading was talking about effective truth. And effective truth is essentially like, you know, we say things, right? But it's about what you actually do, that truth that honestly matters. I'm probably fucking it all up because I just read it this morning. But it's basically like what you actually do is what ultimately matters.
Starting point is 00:56:41 You can say anything. But if your actions ain't matching your words it's like what's the point and what's so scary about a lot of those people like that okay you fuck up you turn to god what happens when things get good again oh yeah when things get good again you just all of a sudden forget about god that's when god really gonna bring you to your knees like oh word you forgot just that fast huh watch this because this ain't a lot of these people's first rodeo bro a lot of these people have been down these you know points where it looked like they couldn't come back from it and you know god found a way but if you keep going
Starting point is 00:57:19 back to the same behavior that you know caused you to hit rock bottom in the first place what do you think is gonna happen the second time i don't know why we act like god is you know just all forgiving i don't believe that well i mean he kind of said that well he also created man in his image according to his likeness so if i come to your house and pee on the rug once you might forgive me i'm like okay he was you know drinking or you know i know he was in the retarded class in high school something like something right but if i come there and do it again you're like all right bro number one i probably shouldn't let you back in my house the second time right but now you really are forbidden from coming here anymore in our purest form i think we would still love that
Starting point is 00:57:58 person and i think that's what god does you think in your purest form you still look at that person for all their flaws and all the negative things that they're going through and all the pain. And I don't do this. I'm not fronting like I do. I hate that motherfucker the first time. But God would look at that person and say, I know he's struggling. I know he's angry. He's not maybe worthy of the rewards that I gave him.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And maybe I don't give him those, but I still love him the same. And he's always welcome in my home. That could be true. Maybe he just has a weak bladder and he couldn't hold it. Yeah, who knows? I have a very weak bladder. We also act like God hasn't hit reset quite a few times now he's hit reset on this shit quite a few times right yeah that's what i'm saying and we look at all these planets that ain't got no life
Starting point is 00:58:34 on them that might have been a reset to a permanent one god might just keep giving earth all of these different chances how we know we're not on our last hurrah. So what were the dinosaurs doing? Butt fucking. They was gang problems, right? Yo, that's all it took. I said asteroid sea. You like ass? I'm going to give you tons of that. Why you think a brontosaurus had that long neck?
Starting point is 00:58:57 That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? The T-Rex had them little arms. Get right up in your asshole. Yeah, face down, ass up. That's what happened they tip over yeah T-Rex no man yeah say it no say it nope no because you don't remember let's get honest here let's get brutally honest here say it say what about the T-Rex yeah you
Starting point is 00:59:23 move that tail out of the way start digging the deleted scene in jurassic park where they were sucking each other's dicks you remember nah man just tell us talking loud and saying something that's what you need to do listen just chapter 17 is talking you would know Andrew what was your favorite part of the book time for some action you didn't read that shit I did
Starting point is 00:59:59 you did I read all your books I do the audio though two times the speed time for some action Time for some action. Time for some action. Spelled, the number four. Refreshed at me.
Starting point is 01:00:09 What was that chapter about? I forgot. S-U-M, action. I don't care what word you use to describe your political affiliation, what religion you worship, or what philosophy you subscribe to, your ideology, beliefs, principles. None of those things matter more than your action. Isn't that what he just said? That's crazy. That's fortuitous. You know, I'm out here. I'm telling you, it's all about action, bro. none of those things matter more than your action that's what he just said that's right
Starting point is 01:00:25 that's literally i'm telling you it's all about action bro i don't care like you can tell me anything show me and that's the tricky thing with the internet is because it allows you to show things that you're not doing yeah i saw somebody i think it was published as weekly they gave me a great review but they was like, but he has these tired takes about social media and how it's ruining a generation. Why is that a tired take? Yeah, it's a fact. It's a fucking fact.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Nobody ever said, it's a tired take that cigarettes are killing people. You can never say that enough. Or what if somebody comes out with the global warming shit? It's a tired take about those. Exactly. Why is social media ruining us and ruining our critical thinking it's also funny because social media is killing readers digest you said it's weekly either way wait wait so wait what was the what was the specific take
Starting point is 01:01:18 that they uh took exception to about social media they didn't it. They just said it was a thing. They just said, they're basically saying it's a great book. He has some tired takes about social media and how social media is ruining us as a society. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:01:34 that's not a tired take. It's the truth. Cal Newport wrote a whole book called Digital Minimalism, which I love. Everybody knows. Jonathan Haidt has a book out now. The Ancient Generation.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I haven't got, I'm still reading Bill Maher's book, so I haven't got The Ancients Generation. But that's, that's. It's the same thing. So how would that attire take,
Starting point is 01:01:50 how is warning somebody about something that's ruining us? All right, what about the practical application? That's something I saw in Heights that I thought was really good about like restricting.
Starting point is 01:01:59 It's not only just restricting phones because there's a certain point in your child's life where in order for them to be like a social individual, you need them to have a phone. Like you don't want them to be that weird kid that has no way of getting in contact with their friends and it's important that they text each other or whatever yeah and like you know they gossip with each other do whatever kids fucking do
Starting point is 01:02:16 but there's certain ages where you can do it and he was basically like avoid puberty that's the most vulnerable time they have all these emotions going through their body they're so easily manipulated and the internet is right there to take advantage of them yeah i don't have no you have daughters so i'm wondering like i don't have none of my kids on social media how old are they as far as i know my oldest is 15 and she doesn't have any social not as far as i know so that's because i made she might have some account on uh the computer oh no i found i did find one back in the day, but it was just like quick, fast, in a hurry. Like, if you do this, you won't be doing this.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Right? Wow. Like, it's just that simple. Because, you know, I just feel like social media really is that dangerous, to your point, to a young mind.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yeah. Like, I think the reason some of us are able to navigate it a little bit better because we're older. Yeah, yeah. We lived in a world without it.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yep. Can you imagine growing up in a society where this is all you fucking know is social goddamn music? We'd watch the same 10 music videos after school
Starting point is 01:03:09 every single day. And discuss them all. Could break them down so fucking eloquently. Think about how little information we consumed as kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Like, the same 10 videos, it was like, the same 10 books, but it was almost nothing that we were consuming on a daily basis i wonder if that like affects memory and stuff now i feel like that a little bit where we're like i'll it takes me a few times to really kind of get something to lock in and obviously
Starting point is 01:03:35 i'm terrified of that because my dad's dementia or whatever but i wonder if it's my brain is filled with so much absolute bullshit that i don't have a calm enough and receptive enough brain to consuming things i actually want to remember i have a bit about this i just instead i said it's my wife's stories that are taking a lot of fucking words that's why i stopped taking in so much information i know that sounds crazy to say but it's just like you just cannot physically or mentally or emotionally consume everything that comes at you on a daily fucking basis i don't even read as many books as i used to because i find myself just reading it to say i read getting about yes and i'm like damn i don't remember nothing that was in that book so i'd rather
Starting point is 01:04:15 read two or three books a year the amount of times i have to reread a page because i i get to the bottom like i don't fuck that i just i don't think i did I just read? I was telling Mark about a TV show. We were flying back from, I think it was Abu Dhabi. I was telling Mark and Derek about a TV show. And I was like, oh my God, the fucking show is incredible. The ending was amazing. And then in that moment I go, I don't even know who killed him.
Starting point is 01:04:37 A show I watched that I am projecting my opinions on someone saying the end is so incredible that I forgot the fucking ending. How? I talk to people people i have conversations with people and i'll be like yo man damn i can't remember what i heard such and such told me such and such and the person would be like i told you i told you that yeah yeah yeah i told you that yesterday this is in jonathan heights book he brings up harrison bergeron this book by kurt vonnegut
Starting point is 01:05:02 where basically the whole world everyone has to be be equal. It's like 2080. Some people have high IQ, some people have low IQ. So in order to balance everything out, the people with high IQs have a device placed in their brains that every two or three minutes, there's a beep that goes off and it makes them lose their train of thought. So they can't sit there and think of all these advanced things and propel themselves down to the side. Essentially dumbs them down. Exactly. But this is interesting. Jonathan Haidt makes the correlation that we basically already have that. So we're sitting here and every two or three minutes you're thinking of something.
Starting point is 01:05:27 You're like, oh, that's a really funny connection. That's something I can go in my book. That's something I can talk about on Idiots. And all of a sudden your phone goes off and you go. Bro, that's me. And then you're immediately disrupted. And so we're already disrupting ourselves and dumbing ourselves down. And he says we're not taking time to basically be with ourselves.
Starting point is 01:05:41 How much smarter are you in the shower? Yeah. Oh, I remember everything in the shower yeah oh i remember everything more creative for you and then as soon as you get out i forgot i'm like what the fuck did i just i just had a bad idea what the fuck happened to it you know or just in the middle of conversation you'll be talking you'll be talking you'll be talking and then it'll be like one thing i'll be like god i'm sitting listening to mark i'm like how the fuck did mark remember all that shit from that book literally and as he's as he's talking i had to refocus myself to listen to what he's saying because he's telling me exactly
Starting point is 01:06:10 what just caused me to lose focus yeah on what he was saying yeah yeah i just googled it i don't even remember it what did i say no but it is i do remember what you said but i don't remember so i'm curious what happens to kids in like say 10 years from now when they have all this distraction while they're also consuming. Right? We didn't really have that much distraction while we were consuming. And we weren't even consuming that much shit in school anyway. Like, they were telling us to read. We weren't reading books over the fucking summer.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Maybe you were. I was. Okay, I was. Book your program, baby. Four books for a pizza. Yeah. Is that because you were retarded? I bought the pizza.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Four books. Were they coloring? Yeah. That's why I started reading so much judy bloom and shit oh really judy bloom clearly yeah so but what i'm trying to say is like what happens 10 years from now right like these kids right now let's assume let's go off the same thesis right that they're not able to hold on to the information that they're consuming because they have this other stuff distracting them. They have that little tick, that little beep. They never learn shit. Well, 10 years, will they not know fucking algebra?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Will they know geography? Will they not know- And we've outsourced most of the learning. We're going to outsource even more and more and more to AI. So it's like, there's not even a need for me to learn. I think eventually they're going to bake in like a dark period throughout the day. Like, you know how Spain has siestas?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, I think there'll be a dark period. America would never that no i think they will explain what would it look like give me so like say a certain period during school where it's like no technology no screens no nothing just let your brain just calm down and i think adults will do it i think everybody will do it'll just be like something that's known that we need this just to continue our mental health american coach would have to change so much yeah this could be propaganda but a teacher came forward like recently with an article and he was like i used to love teaching and i had to quit because i just can't compete with phones we try to take the phones from the kids we there's like we cannot beat the phones they do not listen so they try to make a dark period from 8 a.m to 3 p.m don't
Starting point is 01:08:00 fucking work these are kids they're not they're not having it we're a society in america that loves over consumption yeah number one and a lot of those teachers are probably like you know what get back on your phone kids because y'all stressing me the fuck out you know because you you you're forced to entertain them and that's that's another thing i talk about in the book too it's like when i say give yourself permission to not have these conversations it's okay if you want to not talk to the person next to you and you just want to be in your phone or you want to read your book
Starting point is 01:08:27 or you want to be alone with your thoughts. Don't feel like we have to make conversation just because we're sitting next to each other. Like, that's something that I think, you know, even with that dark period you're talking about, Alex, it's like, you can't force these kids to not want to be on what they want to be on.
Starting point is 01:08:43 I just feel that. Eventually, we'll get to the point where like the global warming will actually start warming too much where it's like we really need to do some shit about it and i think oh okay yeah i think like maybe suicides might go up or certain things just start going up to a level where it's like no one feels comfortable now you got to bring back hell you got to bring back the story of hell that is the perfect time to bring back there's no fear of going to hell anymore no there's hella fear going to hell because if you think it's hot now with climate change yeah don't act right here on this motherfucking planet and feel how it's
Starting point is 01:09:18 gonna be in the afterlife yeah if you can't stand this shit you don't want to go to eternal hellfire bring back stories of hell. When's the last time you heard a good story of hell, bro? Never. Never. Y'all were in New York, so y'all were never scared of hell. I think we just lived in New York for a while. I think if you go back for a while, there'll be a lot of stories of hell.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The funny part is, in most movies, New York is hell. Yeah. Like, when they show you hell, they show you like... Relax. No, they do. They show you like New York fucking city. no they do they show you like new york fucking city do they yeah really you didn't know that i mean i remember watching the devil's
Starting point is 01:09:51 advocate or whatever that was was fantastic great movie great movie yeah yeah another one devil wears prada also country boy think about it though yeah keanu reeves was a country boy yeah came to new york new New York was the devil's playground. You know what I'm saying? That's what I mean. Fun times. Yeah, I don't know if I subscribe to this New York is hell thing. I would say that if I moved to New York and didn't make it either.
Starting point is 01:10:21 It's probably because it's hell over there. And you got to be the devil in order to make it. Bring back hell, baby. Bring back stories of hell. I wonder if we do start to get a little bit more religious and i wonder if that's what can kind of rein us in because that seems like there are very few things everybody can agree on like what are the what is like the one thing that americans can agree on right now tragedy which is it'd have to be extreme tragedy oh oh like that can that can compel all of us to come together i think that's temporary too. It is.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Like not a lot of people brought us together for about a week. A little longer. A little longer. Okay. Yeah. Might've been a little rougher for you, but. Yeah, yeah. No, I brought y'all together.
Starting point is 01:10:58 God was hoping it would be over. I know. What is the solidarity over? They keep telling themselves that it's over. It's over. They don't care no more. They don't care about us no more. Yeah, I think tragedy ain't God, yo.
Starting point is 01:11:07 But tragedy brings you to God. Yeah. Tragedy is what makes you start reflecting. It makes you start thinking about, you know, what it is you should be doing in your fucking life. Yeah. You know? What do you think that tragedy might look like if it's coming? Nuclear weapon.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Nuclear bomb. Oh, wow. That's the only thing. That's like this point, we too far gone. That shit is crazy. Why do you say that tragedy might look like if it's coming nuclear nuclear bomb oh wow that's the only thing that's like this point we too far ago that shit is crazy why why do you say that i just talked to a woman something like the denuclearization board she's trying to like get all these countries to stop making nuclear weapons yeah and i didn't realize how real this shit is yeah it's crazy what do you mean you didn't realize like i wasn't alive during the cold war i wasn't alive during the cube missile crisis like i wasn't alive during any of War. I wasn't alive during the Cuban Missile Crisis. I wasn't alive during any of these major nuclear standoffs. So in my mind, it's like, yeah, there's some bombs.
Starting point is 01:11:47 And it's just based on somebody's stability as a human. Yeah. Putin has sole power to launch any amount of nuclear warheads. I think they have 1,000, 1,500. And if you're, like, you know, there's been rumors that he's sick and stuff like that. So if you're at that point. You just keep saying that shit. I don't know if we're here or not. But if you get to a point where you like you know what man
Starting point is 01:12:08 fuck it i'm about to be out anyway push the goddamn button you just don't know what you don't know like that shit could really if he gets dementia or he starts losing his mind who's gonna be able to overthrow him in time theoretically yeah not that it will happen but theoretically he can just press that button that's the situation on purpose it could even just happen on accident there's like all these stories of like Russian you know
Starting point is 01:12:27 submarine dudes chilling with a nuclear warhead on the submarine and then all of a sudden three of the guys have to all push the button to shoot the nuke and they get a read
Starting point is 01:12:36 on the radar like oh Russia's just been attacked by American missiles we gotta shoot the nuke back can you explain that again this is a crazy story this is an insane story this happened in like
Starting point is 01:12:44 the 60s, 70s? This is like an absolutely insane story. And I'm going to kind of paraphrase. Basically, you have three Russian guys on a nuclear submarine. Okay. On the submarine, they have a nuclear warhead. It's not a joke. It's not.
Starting point is 01:12:56 No one's going to be gay. No one's going to be gay. There's nothing crazy about it. Three Russian guys are on a sub. Russian soldiers are on a sub. There's a nuclear warhead on the sub. They can launch the nuke from the sub. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Okay. And then they all of a sudden get a read on the sub. There's a nuclear war in the sub. They can launch the nuke from the sub. Okay. Okay? And then they all of a sudden get a read on the radar that Russia is being attacked by an American nuclear bomb. Okay. And the status quo is, if you are attacked. If we get attacked, we have to immediately counter-strike. Yeah, yeah. So two of the guys on the sub go, all right, we're getting the reading. We're going to counter-strike.
Starting point is 01:13:20 And the third guy goes, I'm not doing it. And he goes, why? And he's like, we just have to wait. Let's just wait 30 minutes, an hour. Let's see if it hits, and then we'll counter-strike. And the third guy goes, I'm not doing it. And he goes, why? And he's like, we just have to wait. Let's just wait 30 minutes, an hour. Let's see if it hits, and then we'll counter-strike. So they wait 30 minutes. They phone up. And all of a sudden, they realize that the reading they had on the radar was a faulty reading.
Starting point is 01:13:32 There was no actual nuclear missile or any missile that was fired. That guy saves humanity. Yeah. And nobody even knows his fucking name. Crazy. And there's like five of those stories. There was also a nuclear weapon that was dropped in South Carolina. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:43 What? It landed in someone's backyard. Is that how you got like this? Tell me the story. I knew the joke was coming. It's never happened. I'm pretty sure in South Carolina. And dropped by whom?
Starting point is 01:13:53 America, like American forces. It was on an airplane. It accidentally fell in someone's backyard, didn't detonate. And it got caught in a tree, if I remember. It was just chilling. South Carolina moss tree. I bet you it was a fucking moss tree, bro. Bro.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I bet you it was a fucking moss tree bro I bet you it was a fucking moss tree that caught it Mars Bluff 1958 Mars Bluff inadvertent release of a nuclear weapon
Starting point is 01:14:10 from a United States B-47 over Mars Bluff South Carolina the bomb I've never even heard of Mars Bluff South Carolina
Starting point is 01:14:17 what year Mark? 1958 fucking 8 20 years what was happening geopolitically around the 58 you think that there
Starting point is 01:14:24 was a false flag they like tried to do a i like this i'm listening doesn't it feel like some shit was korea having no korea was before that korea was like 53 i think i don't know if nuclear bombs can just fall six people are you trying to say he was trying to bomb blacks in south carolina no bomb blacks in South Carolina? No. Is this Philly? Is this a block in Philly? Exactly. What is this? I'm saying, like,
Starting point is 01:14:47 does America... There's no Wall Street and bluff support. Did America want to get into a war or something and needed an excuse? And then they're like, oopsies, we dropped...
Starting point is 01:14:54 That's kind of crazy that a nuclear weapon just dropped from the sky. I don't... Yeah, I don't believe this shit. Yeah, I don't know. All that shit is just... Bro, how...
Starting point is 01:15:02 You can't just imagine us being incompetent one time? Yeah, I know. Why is the LGBT topics on the can't just imagine us being incompetent. Yeah, I know. Why is the LGBT topics on the nuclear weapon? This is different. This is different. This is from an old search.
Starting point is 01:15:11 What the fuck? It happened again in 61 in North Carolina. So what's up with the Carolinas? Special, man. They're trying to get us out of here because we're special.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Maybe a base is right. There's a lot of military bases and there's a bunch of military bases in North and South Carolina. Like most people who are military brats have spent some time in South Carolina and North Carolina. Bro, this is crazy. Seven countries got nuclear weapons, but a bunch of them have access to nuclear weapons. And they can get them from other countries and shit.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Sweden just asked, like requested for nuclear weapons from America. Like, yo, put some nuclear weapons over here. Annie Jacobson just wrote a whole book where basically she's like, let's say North Korea wants to start a war. They launch a bunch of nukes over. We start nuking back over at them. All of a sudden, Russia's involved because they're an ally.
Starting point is 01:15:50 So now they're going to start hitting Europe. There's fires everywhere. Nuclear winter happens and then everyone dies of famine. You want to know something crazy, Mark? You just said Annie Jacobson? Guess who's directing that movie
Starting point is 01:15:59 after Dune Messiah? Who? Denis Villeneuve. That's the option that, it's called Nuclear War by Annie Jacobson, which is like a ticking clock scenario of what would happen in a nuclear war. And they've spoken to all those people about like,
Starting point is 01:16:12 I don't need to see no shit. All that plan. But that's, 70 minutes. That's, that's real. You got 70 minutes. And then everybody's dead.
Starting point is 01:16:18 No, I mean, first, initially a bunch of people die. In the 70s, is it that long? Everyone in the cities dies within 70 minutes. And then within like a couple months after that, everyone in the cities dies within 70 minutes. And then within like
Starting point is 01:16:25 a couple months after that, everyone in the middle of the country dies. Nuclear fallout. They're basically like, if you're like away from the equator, if you're like Australia,
Starting point is 01:16:32 maybe Argentina, you might live. But everyone else is dying. And now we find all these billionaires are building bunkers in New Zealand. The crazy part is,
Starting point is 01:16:38 and this is how you know America's so wild, right? For the past five, six months, it has been heavy talk of nuclear war okay from different people putin said it's not off the table like all everybody's talking about it and nobody gives a fuck we're just going on about our day every fucking day like this isn't a possibility i also think people are just trying to top the next person and that's really the last big dick swinging contest you could do at this point. What more can you say besides, yo, I got
Starting point is 01:17:08 nukes. Remember, I got nukes. Remember when a couple weeks ago, 300 missiles were fired from Iran to Israel? Oh my god. You guys saw that happen. What if that shit went well? They got nukes. We're talking about nukes.
Starting point is 01:17:23 Who has nukes? Rubber bands. Israel has nukes and Iran could have nukes? They got nukes. We're talking about nukes. We're not talking about like... Who has nukes? Rubber bands. Who has nukes? Israel has nukes and Iran could have nukes. No, I'm not wrong. That's a bunch of firecrackers. Wait, wait. What are you saying? Oh, you're saying that could have been nuclear war.
Starting point is 01:17:34 That could have started something. I mean, India and Pakistan, they got nukes. I don't think Iran is... That's the one that scares me. But remember when Russia... Iran doesn't have nukes. Remember when the... They can have nukes.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Listen. They might be. I don't think they have them. India, Pakistan. If anything pops off, it's us. Remember when that thing called the former USSR came apart? Do you know how much random uranium and plutonium is in different parts of wherever the former countries were? Like where someone on the black market is going to find some uranium. What Dov is saying, who got the vibranium though?
Starting point is 01:18:02 I'm just saying, it's not all accounted for. And something like that could start that that war pakistan india do you think we're close yeah it's just a weird time right now man governments fall apart anarchy be pretty crazy so we're fine is this is this like an argument it'll be fun. I said we're fine. Oh, I thought you said... I don't think nobody's pushing the button. Is this an argument, though, for... Okay, if the world is this unstable, is this an argument for whoever's in power
Starting point is 01:18:38 placing people in positions of power in foreign countries to maintain the stability? If we all subscribe to this idea that at any point in time nuclear war and you have a potentially unstable leader a kim jong-un or kim jong-un or something like that to me if the world is that vulnerable and then in 70 minutes everybody's dead it is the most benevolent thing to do which is get him the fuck out of there and then in 70 minutes everybody's dead it is the most benevolent thing to do which is get him the fuck out of there and then put some puppet in that you know at least isn't going to push the button if that's how we did it yeah but i just don't think we necessarily do it just when we're worried about it i agree there's financial reasons etc but you could make
Starting point is 01:19:18 the argument if it's that kim jong-un might need to go yeah but see that's my thing what happened remember what happens is just taking people like that out. I think about this all the time. There used to be a time. Nope. People like that, they just get the fuck out of here. Which makes me feel
Starting point is 01:19:34 like they can trust him. It makes me feel like he's a good bad guy. Hey, we need somebody out there that's just going to pop shit. You need a foil. Exactly. You need somebody to keep everybody on gonna pop shit you need a foil you need somebody to keep everybody
Starting point is 01:19:46 on their toes to make you think some bad shit can happen but we really got what was the last time we got somebody out of here cause I feel like it's just been a while
Starting point is 01:19:53 and it makes me think that's not we don't have it like that anymore what's a while well Gaddafi some people
Starting point is 01:20:01 feel like the Iran president there's some shaky shit there I thought it was I thought it was an inside joke yeah I thought it was the people feel like the Iran president. There's some shaky shit there. I thought it was. I think that was an inside job. Yeah, I thought it was the Cowboys and the Starboys. Apparently, it's inside. I think it's an inside job. What the fuck the weekend got to do with this?
Starting point is 01:20:13 Explain to them Cowboys and the Starboys. No, no. The Cowboys are America and the Starboys are the Jews. The star, the flag, you know. Okay, okay. But I think it was an inside job specifically because apparently they took the black box out of the helicopter like two weeks before. So why would there not be a black box in the president's helicopter? Also, I think all the helicopters are super old because—
Starting point is 01:20:36 They're American, and to get the parts— There's a boycott on American—there's a boycott on, like, military equipment. Sanctions, embargoes on the American parts to replace so and then the other thing is I think that the supreme leader whatever his name is Khomeini, I think Khomeini wants his
Starting point is 01:20:56 son to take over after him but the fact is that the power is not necessarily split but there are people who really love the president apparently from what I was reading in Iran and whenever there is a split of power or people who are following power the way that you consolidate that is you get rid of the other person that's got some power wow so it looks to me that it's more suspicious but then that wasn't us but we haven't done but we said yeah adult somebody you said it was an inside job shows. I don't know. That's what I read.
Starting point is 01:21:25 But all this shit is inside jobs. Keep going. Keep going. That's the whole point. You get somebody that people feel comfortable with and close to to infiltrate and go get the job done. Yeah. Like, there's no foreigners shooting American presidents. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah. Like, the presidents who have been shot have been shot by people who are here. Yeah. Somebody got in their ear and corrupted them in some way, shape, or form. So who are the leaders that we want switched up? Obviously Putin. But then here's the other thing
Starting point is 01:21:48 about Putin. Oh. No, no, no, no. Who do we want to die? We have to say, yo, yo, yo, yo. We say, switched out. Yo, yo, yo, yo.
Starting point is 01:21:55 It's different. Give an asylum in America, put them in the Hamptons. No, no, no. Here's the thing. Not the Hamptons. Here's the thing about Putin. I don't even know
Starting point is 01:22:01 if we want Putin switched out. Because if the military industrial complex in America makes tons of money making weapons right we need someone to use those weapons on
Starting point is 01:22:13 Putin is nice he's a nice foil he's someone who's gonna start a war he's someone who's gonna or he's gonna at least respond to our
Starting point is 01:22:21 antagonization right so you need someone who responds. You don't need someone who bends over. If they bend over, we can't use the weapons. I never thought about that until you said it. But a guy that's saying, I'll send over the nukes if I need to,
Starting point is 01:22:33 that guy you don't want to fuck with. That guy you can switch out. Logically, if you believe that he'll do it. Maybe he's just talking. Exactly. I don't think we believe he'll do it. Think about what we're doing. We are supplying Ukraine with all the weapons.
Starting point is 01:22:43 We're essentially the ones that are i mean it's american weapons that are killing now russian soldiers give him incentive to want to flip of course but the fact that he doesn't still and he knows where the weapons are coming he knows where the weapons are coming from so maybe it's the perfect foil maybe he also has a military industrial complex that he needs to supply weapons for use weapons for so he's liking the fact that this war is going on too. I don't know. The thing about sending nukes is once he sends over nukes, we send over nukes. But we're not talking about nukes. We're talking about
Starting point is 01:23:11 what is the status quo. So far, we're the only ones that have sent nukes. And we've been in so many skirmishes, wars, conflicts, whatever you call with the Russians. We're talking about back to Afghanistan, right? Where nothing has happened. And we know that this is Russian weapons and American weapons combating. We're using proxies.
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Starting point is 01:25:23 There's a lot of Japanese people who are well aware. I'm talking about now though. How do we know nukes even really exist? No, we know. There's a lot of Japanese people who are well aware. I'm talking about now, though. How do we know that they still exist? Because to Andrew's point, ain't nobody let one fly. There was one on a fucking tree in South Carolina. We don't know. It didn't detonate. It just conveniently didn't detonate.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I don't believe it. Just conveniently didn't detonate. Well, they do test them a lot. They do test them. Where? Underground. Marshall Islands. What are you? The fuck is the Marshall Where? Underground. Marshall Islands. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Who the fuck is the Marshall Islands? They're tolls. Don't forget to write about it. The Marshall Islands. Bikini Island. Yeah, Bikini Atoll is a big one. Yeah. No, no, no, Sean.
Starting point is 01:25:58 No, no, no, no. By the way, shout out to everybody who comes to the book signings trying to get me on these dick jokes. I have not forgotten. OK. They're still trying to get me on dick jokes. No. What's the last one? None. Because they use it like the dude trying to hit me with the tip of the other day. I'm like, cut it out. Yes. He's out there in Coral Gables Saturday. He tried to hit me with the tip of the.
Starting point is 01:26:21 I got hit with the Putin one the other day. The Putin? But Putin can get you. Anything that can get like that, it can get you a little bit. Putin is dick. Well, that can get you, though. How did you get caught? Because it can get you. What are you talking about? But it can get you.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Because we're talking about nuclear war. Yeah. What do you think about Putin, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll show you something that will explode. I'm just saying. It's just saying we're in crazy times man yeah but also great times yeah that's the problem
Starting point is 01:26:52 it really is more people got access to clean drinking water than ever we got air conditioning we're living in the best time of human history air conditioning is awesome that means more than clean drinking water we got black country singers white rappers like we got white golfers running over cops yeah india's got wi-fi we get to see what they're up to got wi-fi
Starting point is 01:27:12 it's awesome over there i mean like shit is also fire we could focus on all the negative but we're not going back to any other time i guess that's the whole thing right all of this doesn't have to be negative if we just have conversations about it. Right. Because a lot of honest conversations, honest conversations, a lot of like we just had an honest conversation. Yeah. What world leaders need to go? They got to go. Who needs to motherfucking get it?
Starting point is 01:27:35 They got to go. And why are they not doing this shit old school, primitive style like they used to? Andrew brings up a fire point because they all in cahoots together. They're useful. Boom. That's it. Women, they all have those conversations where they go meet up and Trump walks in front of people and likeahoots together. They're useful. Boom. When they all have those conversations where they go meet up
Starting point is 01:27:46 and Trump walks in front of people and shakes their hands. Who are Xi Jinping? You should switch out Xi Jinping. You probably won't even tell the difference. That's not a dick joke? No. It's very racist.
Starting point is 01:27:58 It's very racist. It's a very racist joke. We just left you out there. I started itching. I thought he was about to say, with the GG ping in your mouth. I'm like, what? He's saying that you could switch out the Chinese leader and nobody would know
Starting point is 01:28:14 if you just put another Chinese in. Stop laughing. The dick joke is so funny. He's still trying to figure it out. He thinks there's something going on. He thinks there's something going on. Point is, they're all meeting up and they're all having the conversations.
Starting point is 01:28:25 It got to be. That's why I never understood when people used to get upset when Trump used to go talk to these people. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? Bro, aren't you supposed to go talk to Putin? Aren't you supposed to go talk to the leader of North Korea? Now you know that that's what the internet is for. Fox News is going to have a field day with that. No, it's not even Fox.
Starting point is 01:28:40 It's not even what you need. No, no, I'm saying like, the internet is for people to be upset about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks, right? And there are little ecosystems. Like I used to feel when the internet, like at least internet media, like news media on the internet initially popped up, right?
Starting point is 01:28:55 I was like, oh wow, there's going to be some truth and opportunity and they're not beholden to the pharmaceutical companies and they're not beholden to the military industrial complex. And because of that, you're going to see unfiltered truth right and now it's just like oh you're just as biased you're just leaning into whatever you get clicks for yeah like this idea that the the internet news is not an echo chamber it's worse constantly you could make the argument it's worse then it might
Starting point is 01:29:22 okay why why do you think it's worse because i respect you more of you getting a big ass check from a pharmaceutical company and if you can youtube you know what i'm saying it's motherfuckers in debt right now because they just got on the internet and lied got sued now they're in debt for the rest of their fucking life i would rather you get the big check from the pharmaceutical company. Get some shit that you can walk away from. Get fucked in your ass for billions. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:51 Do you know what I mean? Like if Bowie's going to fuck you in the ass, better if Bowie fucks you in the ass than the fucking what's an AdSense that comes on YouTube. Yes. Yeah. $10 CPM. Yeah, like $10, $10 or something. $4 CPM.
Starting point is 01:30:04 You always got to think like you sitting around with your boys, whether it's in the hood, whether you in Manhattan when you're going to play basketball, whatever that circle was, right? Remember when we all know that circle when you were young, that circle that you craved validation and you want them to give you your props. If they find out you got fucked in your ass, you got to be able to say, I paid a billion for it, though. It was Boeing. Yeah. So they'd be like, I paid a billion to get fucked in your ass. Billion dollars, yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Still gay, but yeah, I get it. It ain't gay at that point. It's good business. I want a loan. It's good business. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but... And that's when you'd be like,
Starting point is 01:30:41 you know what you got to do? I give you a million. You know what you got to do? You know what you a million. You know what you got to do? You got to get it like I got it. Word up. Ain't going to be no loan forgiveness over here. I'm not the Biden administration. I'm coming to collect it.
Starting point is 01:30:55 You got to get it like I got it. Okay, I got a billion to get fucked in the ass. Let's negotiate. Exactly. That's all. Yeah, you dirty ass. Your ass is dirty. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:04 Way less. But that is the thing that I've noticed. that's all yeah your dirty ass your ass is dirty you know what I mean it's all up to the left so that is but that is the thing that I've noticed so maybe it's just indicative of like who we are as people we're just gonna lean into where our bread is buttered
Starting point is 01:31:13 and it's gonna be very hard for there to be truth out there it's gonna be very hard because a lot of times people aren't willing to take the hit for the truth nobody cares about the truth
Starting point is 01:31:21 when the lie is more entertaining ooh who said that who said that I said that in my first book who said that also uh it's the narrative it's not even when the lie is more entertaining it's when the lie is more lucrative yeah nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more lucrative when the lie is more lucrative and once you like understand the internet and you realize how easy it is to just get views and that kind of shit and you you like like i'm very proud of us. Like, we make an active choice.
Starting point is 01:31:46 We're like, okay, we're going to have some people on that we think are fun, but we're not going to, we're not going to basically frame every single episode into things that we think are bullshit. There's a comedy podcast. But you don't know. Oh, we know. Not all the time.
Starting point is 01:31:59 There's a way to game this shit, and we choose not to do it. We choose not to do it. But you would have to have, like, a fact checker researcher sitting in studio right no i'm saying the opposite i'm saying we could go the we could go the extremist route uh-huh all you gotta do is yell and have a really bad take about something and that shit will go but so many people be right we just think that they're not right because they're yelling and we think and they got in the internet has told us that they're what they're saying is not true.
Starting point is 01:32:25 I'm the type of person, I got to go research it myself. You know what I'm saying? I'm not listening to social media. Like yesterday was a great example, right? Nicki Minaj gets arrested. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Nicki tweets out, and this happened in Amsterdam where weed is legal. Yeah. So my mind goes, well, maybe weed isn't legal in Amsterdam. Let me just go Google and see. Because I never knew.
Starting point is 01:32:49 You know, you always hear these stories about Amsterdam red light district. Yeah, yeah. It's not legal in Amsterdam. Well, that wasn't the issue, but yeah. But it's legal in designated coffee shops and places where it's designated. And I think you can only have up to
Starting point is 01:33:02 like five grams or some shit like that. So if she had a bunch of pre-rolls, maybe they were over five grams. The issue is she was trying to travel to another country with them. And that's where you get punished. So at the Amsterdam airport, if they see that you're bringing weed onto your flight, they can arrest you for that. But my point is, that's part of the law. Yeah, exactly. In her mind, weed is legal in Amsterdam.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Which one, isn't true and two you're bringing it to another state that's right or another country that's right which is also that's right so they find it for that but like which we've seen happen in america all the fuck you might leave cali with the weed and land in fucking i think denver airport there's like a thing it's like an amnesty thing where you're like throw it out now because if we catch you with it you're fucked that's funny throw'm saying? That's funny. Throw it away here. It's good. You're good. They'll let you throw it away.
Starting point is 01:33:47 Oh, that's cool. I like that. They just have a box you can put it in. I like that. And then all the TSA guys take it home. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Resell it. That's fine. My point is, she said that. That's good faith. And mad people on social media repeated it. I saw that so much yesterday. Why is this happening to Nikki? Weed is legal and everything.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Not quite, guys. Yeah. But nobody even stopped to do any of the research. And then people will turn that story into anything that fits their argument. So if their argument, look how racist the world is, they'll be like, oh my God, look at this. Sexist, racist. Or look how, or the opposite, which is. Look how entitled Americans are.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Look how entitled Americans are. This is another Brittany Griner just thinking that she could take drugs all around the world. It's going to be okay. And people will frame this story into whatever fits their echo chamber. Nikki had more fire frame, though. And this ties into- What'd she say? Nikki kept it into the, this is them still trying to sabotage me.
Starting point is 01:34:39 My tour. They've been trying to stop me for the- You know, her whole thing has been about- The European Union. The industry's trying to shut her down and stop her. She even put it right back. No, this is the people trying to stop me for the life. You know, her whole thing has been about the industry's trying to shut her down and stop her. She put it right back. No, this is the people trying to stop my tour.
Starting point is 01:34:49 I don't know why they're trying to stop my tour. You know what that makes people want to do? What? Buy more tickets. What were you saying? I got to go out here and support Nicki. Shit. I was, what he's saying about the echo chamber,
Starting point is 01:34:58 that ties into the earlier point he was making, which is I can just feed you what I already know you want to hear. You want to hear. Yes. Oh, look at at racism all examples of racism that makes you feel good and there's a way you can lean into that and kind of grift and just make pretty good money i want to do it you can't be great you can't be great but you can have a good comfy no i really want to do what would be your grift what would you jump on mental Mental health, therapy, that kind of thing. Nah, I'd do that. That's stupid.
Starting point is 01:35:27 I don't know. You could go conservative and have so much fun. Oh, my God. You and Candace Owens? Doing that now. What's the next grift? I don't know. But my thing is, like, I cannot do it. Meaning that maybe it's just...
Starting point is 01:35:43 I'm not a contrarian. But I have to just see what the other... of view point of view intelligent person i have to yeah like you cannot just tell me something i have to go see what the other pov is also if your contrarian nature inspires you to do that that's not a bad. Whatever it is that makes you go out there and seek a little bit more information, that's fantastic. It's okay. You should. Yes. Like, don't just take somebody's word for it. Not even mine. But you have to understand how hard that is when you're making money on it. And a lot of people on the internet are making money. They're paying their rent. They're paying their family's rent. And they have a responsibility now to go continue making this money in this way. They quit their job.
Starting point is 01:36:25 They're like, holy shit, I'm making money making YouTube videos now. I got to keep these clicks up. I got to keep these views up. That's right. How do I do it? Oh, here's my currency. I'm leaning into that. The algorithm decides what they create, not themselves.
Starting point is 01:36:36 It's the most inauthentic version of creation. That's right. You are not creating for you. You are creating for others. For others. Yeah. I talk about that in the book it's just like you know i know very smart people very intelligent people who are literally just telling people what they want to hear and it's so predictable and then they have the audacity to criticize
Starting point is 01:36:55 yeah you aren't even creating what you authentically want oh my god the audacity to criticize oh the algorithm has decided who you are as a creator. Oh, my God, man. No, it's actually disgusting. Yeah. And they're influential. People will believe them, too. Eh.
Starting point is 01:37:17 I think it's coming to an end. Yeah, I think it's not sustainable. That's what they don't realize. It's not sustainable. Initially, it was because we just kind of believed anything that was produced. We were like, oh, my God, here's information. It must be true. Somebody put effort into making this. And now that people are starting to see that there's like a grift and you can get views by doing certain things,
Starting point is 01:37:32 I think the public is starting to be skeptical of the same exact video being put out. I think there still is a market for it. But there's influence. I think we underestimate how many people are lost. And to your point about religion, like giving guidance, since there's not as much religion, maybe Tim Dillon said this, we're all kind of looking for God in something else. So if I'm a broken person who got treated, women treated me like shit, I never got no pussy. I guess that's me, but I didn't get angry about it.
Starting point is 01:37:58 But you chose not to get pussy. Yeah, true. But like these people who they find these red pill guys and they're like, oh, they're telling me exactly what I want to hear. I don't care what you expose about them. I don't care if it's fake. That like these people who, they find these red pill guys and they're like, oh, they're telling me exactly what I want to hear. I don't care what you expose about them. I don't care if it's fake. That makes me feel good. Oh, you see that with celebrity all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Like people like, and that's how I know people don't really be caring about the issues. Like they care. They care about the individual. Yeah. Like people got mad at me last week. I didn't realize they got mad at me for some brilliant idiot shit I said months ago when we were talking about Diddy. Wow. And I was just saying how like when I see situations like this it's sad right like i did
Starting point is 01:38:29 um i did dan abrams show and he played the clip from idiots right but he played it without the context so the context was it's sad to see another person you know ruin their life based off poor choices yeah right it's sad to see when these people crash and burn That's because they've made poor alleged porch at the time. I said alleged poor choice. Yeah, right so When somebody asked me about did it was on the view they asked me about Diddy and I go I think we need to focus on the issue Not the individual hmm Because what happens a lot of times in these situations we get so caught up in the celebrity of it all
Starting point is 01:39:04 That we we don't ever take the time to talk about what's the real core issue here to me it's domestic violence yeah it's these men that need to go through the work on themselves because they're dealing with all this hurt and this pain and this unhealed trauma and they're projecting that on the other women and it's the patriarchy because you got a guy like a diddy who's in a position of power who probably don't look at any woman as an equal or it's a sociopathic power hungry narcissist but that's all that's still all mental health related that's still all something that you need to go be crazy people yeah yes yes so my point is we don't ever talk about the issue now it's a diddy's music is banned from peloton and diddy's eyeglasses are
Starting point is 01:39:42 taking out who gives a fuck whatever happens to him as an individual he's got to deal with the consequences of his actions but the issue is still going to be going on that's interesting as i'm talking right now somebody's getting their ass kicked some woman's getting their ass kicked right now nobody's even paying her no and then we move on once we see justice is served for the individual that's right we act as if the issue is taken care of when in reality it's not taken care of no at all at all but our our passivity comes in because we feel satisfied because we never cared about the issue and i've never cared as strong but like we cared more about the fact that this famous person we
Starting point is 01:40:16 saw our whole lives is involved in this thing a pound of flesh now i largely agree with you could you make the argument that there is still some benefit in seeing we're going to make an example out of this guy? You're going to take this guy who was a demigod of sorts, like so powerful, and he's going to be stripped to nothing. And these are the consequences of those actions. Yes, but you have to put the lesson in it, right? Like we can't have these small conversations about Diddy and what it means to his legacy, whatever, whatever. We have to say this is what happens to your legacy when you do bullshit behavior like this.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I don't think we ever have those discussions when it comes to celebrity. Yeah. All we see is all of these guys get canceled, all of these guys go to prison, as they should, but then what? R. Kelly, same exact thing. The behavior keeps going.
Starting point is 01:41:02 Nobody's talking about human trafficking, nobody's talking about what's happening to these. Nothing. He pees on people. That's it. Yeah, same exact thing. Nobody's talking about human trafficking. Nobody's talking about what's happening to these. Nothing. He pees on people. That's it. Which is hilarious. What's the lesson with Diddy? It's like, oh, he's gay.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah, he's gay. But it's not. We don't know that shit. Fair. That is the other. What we know about Diddy is he absolutely puts his hands on women. We've seen that. I think that part's worse.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Than him being gay? I don't know, dude. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're right. No, no, no. Hold on. It depends how he's getting his butt. No, because he could be.
Starting point is 01:41:36 He could be non-consensual. If he's being nasty. That's what I'm saying. He could be non-consensual. I think we do know he's gay, though, from that video. Bro, there's one story that came out of all this. Don't jump away from it. He did fight with flowers.
Starting point is 01:41:48 We do know that he's gay from that video. Why? Because of the way he was holding his towel? No. What? The socks. I didn't notice the socks. You didn't see the socks in the video?
Starting point is 01:41:57 No. I really couldn't. I didn't watch the video. The things y'all pay attention to in a goddamn video. Once I saw him pull her down and kick, I'm like, I've seen enough of that. I didn't watch that part. I just watched the socks. I watched him like Joker walking through the hallway
Starting point is 01:42:10 and his pink fuchsia socks. Yeah. And I was like, oh, this guy's definitely gay. That was what I thought. That was the first thing I thought. I didn't know they were pink. Oh wow. He put on her socks.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Why would he do that? Because it's a power thing it's great by the way it's grippy bro drugs like a motherfucker yes god that's that's clear and she said he was intoxicated and shit but you are sean p diddy combs yeah and you're in the intercontinental hotel and you run out in a towel this was 2000 what 16 or 18 yeah yeah this guy was 46 years old you you're a hundred you're a multi you might have been a billionaire by the time i don't chalk it up like no drug makes you beat a woman no no you beat women and then you do it like yeah it's not only drugs yeah yeah it's not only i'm not saying it's not only drugs but this is yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's not only, I'm not saying it's not only drugs, but this is, this isn't regular behavior, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:06 Like, you're, I think it's regular. You're running in a hotel with a towel on? I agree with him. I think it's regular for him. I think he's such a fucking monster. The amount of times
Starting point is 01:43:13 you gotta hit your girl to not give a fuck that you're in public? Yes! That's what I'm saying. But I think he's just such a power-hungry person that when he,
Starting point is 01:43:21 I think he feels invincible when he has the power. And these types of things, unfortunately, make him feel invincible. Top or bottom? What? Top or bottom?
Starting point is 01:43:29 Oh, did he? Power bottom. I think, honestly, I think it's, I think it's top and I don't even think it's a gay thing. I think it's,
Starting point is 01:43:36 I think everything about his life is power and how he can exert power on people. I think that's why watching people fuck someone is power. It's like, I'm going to make you do this thing you don't even want to do and I'm going to watch and enjoy it. That's why he loves the Joker.
Starting point is 01:43:52 He wants to be the fucking Joker, this agent of chaos. I think it's both, bro. You think he's a power bottom? Centipede. So it's like, dick, then dick. He's in somebody in him.
Starting point is 01:44:01 It's both fucking. Eiffel Tower. Can I ask you a related question? Jay-Z. Oh, stop Tower. Can I ask you a related question? Jay-Z. Oh, stop it. If I'm hearing smoke, I've been hearing smoke about Diddy. That's why I believe the Cassie shit right away, because we've all heard things about Diddy for a long time.
Starting point is 01:44:14 We never heard this shit. We did not hear it. I heard, we used to always make a joke. No, we did not. I've heard the joke, Cassie's a hostage. You hear little whispers that he's abusive. Yeah, but we heard that. We said that about Tom Cruise, too, with Katie Holmes. Yeah. never i didn't think i was gonna ever see a video like this i
Starting point is 01:44:29 heard abuse whispers so i was thinking yeah i heard gay i'd never heard i always heard gay gay non-stop and that was enough people were like that's because of wendy williams what'd you say oh that was wendy wendy whole thing was diddy was gay since the 90s. She knew, dog. No, Wendy was throwing that out there. We owe Wendy an apology. That's why Wendy got fired from Hot 97. Wendy got fired from Hot 97 by Diddy because that's when Bad Boy was smoking hot. Wow. And yeah, she got fired for putting that out there.
Starting point is 01:44:55 Do you think that Diddy held on to the gay rumors so that people didn't know what he really was? Yeah. Ooh. Because that's the perfect smoke screen. You'd rather people think you're gay than beat women. By the way, here's the wild thing. We still don't know what Diddy is. I mean, we know little.
Starting point is 01:45:10 We know bits and pieces. Yeah. This shit might be deeper than rap. We don't know. This might be a whole rap and all. You might be like, oh, shit. But seeing this being. That's what I was trying to get at this whole time.
Starting point is 01:45:22 That is the wildest story that came out of a lot of this shit and nobody gives a fuck wait what's the story what's the call it up i don't even want to repeat it oh this shit sounds so crazy no type in that type in his name and diddy but this is why i believe all the cassie allegations because of this video. Because she describes this, what happened to the T. So now it's like, I believe everything she said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 01:45:49 I'm not, I'm not, I, yeah. This is horrifying. Also, also Diddy's bullshit, while you're getting that, Diddy's bullshit has to excuse like how he couldn't mention Cassie's name in the apology. There's no rule
Starting point is 01:45:58 you can't apologize. Why? I'm not laughing at that. No, I know you're not. I'm laughing at this shit here. I'm laughing at this shit that Marcus put on. Yeah, also you called her a liar like three days ago.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Yeah, get the fuck out of here. Said she was looking after her for a quick buck. You're a fucking scumbag. Maybe this is more triggering for me because whatever, but like that shit. Why is this more triggering for you? I grew up in a house, and I didn't see that ever, but I grew up in a house where there was abuse. So it was like, you watch that, and this is way more extreme than anything I saw. Like, she's trying to sneak out of the fucking room.
Starting point is 01:46:24 He's dragging her by the hair. I'm not going to pimp my struggle. I didn extreme than anything I saw. Like, she's trying to sneak out of the fucking room. He's dragging her by the hair. I'm not going to pimp my struggle. I didn't see anything like that. But watching that is like, yo, fuck this guy forever. Did you ever try to intervene? Yeah, I did one time. You got your ass kicked? No, we didn't do anything.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I just stood in his way. And I didn't say a word. I didn't even look at him, which I'm kind of like, I just got in his way. And I remember thinking, if this goes down, this goes down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I remember. his way and i remember thinking if i have to if this goes down this goes down yeah yeah that's that's all i remember i remember i was reading will smith's book and he he always said he felt bad because he never intervened so that was like he said he said he felt like a coward yeah you
Starting point is 01:46:55 know he never intervened uh watching his mother go through the abuse from his father but i think i think he said his brother did so it just a lot of that just makes you kind of think about everything that happened that everything that transpired transpired with the slap and all of that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I have to do I'm going to stand up for myself finally. You didn't play the clip. I'm trying to find it. It was right there. I saw it. Go back to the one. Go back to the hip hop DX one.
Starting point is 01:47:17 This is wild, bro. I didn't see this. Yo, this is crazy. This was wild. Like I'm like, this is how you know too much is going on. First, this shit is wild but hilarious. Let's keep it a buck. No. That's why a lot of people look quiet.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And out of those five or six, how many? The first one was the worst one, and then the other ones I left early. Okay, so the worst one was Carl Wynn. Carl Wynn's on Gash win. Yeah, I'm guessing. Yeah, it did. You know what I'm saying? So you're busting the door, you didn't hear? No, because you know how me, I like to joke and play and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:47:52 So a nigga don't give a fuck. So I'm just hearing like, ah, ah, like all that shit. I'm like, oh, somebody wearing this bitch out on the crib. So I go busting the door. I look up, I see Carl's win. So I'm like, oh shit, son, like this is crazy. Wow. why is that not being talked about more son I used to hear Carl Winslow's gay rumors too
Starting point is 01:48:33 and then when you rewatch he's a little wristy with the acting but watching what type of madman are you you're watching Family Matters and you're like yo I gotta get that I gotta fuck Carl Winslow like what the fuck man of you you're watching family matters and you like yo i need that i gotta get that i gotta fuck carl winslow yeah like what the fuck you're you're you're diddy you got access to so many
Starting point is 01:48:54 people but that's your favorite you got the kid he likes tv dad bring up carl winslow so everybody knows what you're watching him in that uniform got you bricked up. Are you a little proud that it was still a black man who's attracted to? Black and black? That's black love? No. What would Dr. Umar say? And then the wild part about the video, the homie said he was wearing them out. Wearing them out.
Starting point is 01:49:18 On Crip. Wearing them out on Crip. On Crip. On Crip. Yo, I had to kick in the door to see what the fuck was going on. Who in here wearing this girl out like that? God damn, man. There were some beautiful women on Family Matters, bro.
Starting point is 01:49:33 And he does the voice for that. Now I'm going to watch that show a little different. Are we still live? Yeah. Oh, God bless the day. I mean, God bless the delivery. Oh, I'm thinking about that. I know who I'm thinking about. Who are you thinking about? I'm thinking about that I know who I'm thinking about
Starting point is 01:49:45 Who are you thinking about? I'm thinking about Phil Yeah yeah No But same difference Yo this is wild This is wild Oh James Avery
Starting point is 01:49:52 You thought it was James Avery James Avery No I knew it was him But I just was getting him Confused for a second My whole point with this is This is a wild story yo So you know how wild
Starting point is 01:50:00 Your story's gotta be Throughout this whole shit Where this one just gets Swept under the rug Yeah Only person I saw Repost this was of course 50 How wild your story's got to be throughout this whole shit where this one just gets swept under the rug. Yeah. Only person I saw repost this was, of course, 50. 50 didn't miss shit.
Starting point is 01:50:12 50 didn't miss this. Shout out to 52, man. Shout out to 50. The inspiration for this book. Oh, yeah. What did he say? What did he say? He said, your idea to use my idea was a good idea. What was that referencing?
Starting point is 01:50:25 Get Honest or Die Lying. Get Rich or Die Trying. No, I know it's a playoff of that, but that's what it was. Did he say something on Breakfast Club? No, no, no. He was talking about this. It's the title. And he posted the book.
Starting point is 01:50:36 50 always reposts my books, though. So I salute to 50. Shout out to 50. But then you commented that. Oh, I'm taking the money. I don't have any money by Monday. Which Monday? Listen, man. If 50 need me for something, I'm here.
Starting point is 01:50:49 You know what I mean? That's all. You might need me to voice some commercials for something. He's got a bunch of TV shows. He's got the studio in Louisiana. It's all right. It'll be fine. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:01 I do love that he puts on a shirt for you. That's why I basically grew up there you did? I spent like half my year that my uncle and aunt lived out there but I spent so many months in Shreveport yo why do Indians like move to like the most rural places in the south?
Starting point is 01:51:15 in that case there's a need for doctors and you can make a lot of money as a doctor gotcha most of the Indians out there are really successful because if you went to Shreveport, Louisiana you had a fucking reason
Starting point is 01:51:24 you know what I mean? so I think a lot of times if you see to Shreveport, Louisiana, you had a fucking reason. You know what I mean? So I think a lot of times if you see Indians in kind of like small, this is just theory, small kind of rural, not many minority places, there's money
Starting point is 01:51:33 that they're making. They're not doing poorly. People in Shreveport made some money from natural gas living on that shale. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the city split.
Starting point is 01:51:42 There's like a Bozier City. Bozier City, Bozer City. Shreveport's not that nice, to be honest with you. Maybe it got nice, but I think it was called Ratchet City. What is the name?
Starting point is 01:51:51 Hurricane Chris is from there? I-N-D-E-E. No, man, that's fucking Webby. Who's Hurricane Chris is from? Hurricane Chris sings, Halle Berry, Halle Berry. There you go. Halle Berry.
Starting point is 01:52:07 It was like that in Columbus. Columbus south carolina had like a real heavy pocket of indians that's what aziz grew up yeah like me and my boy his dad's a doctor right the university yeah i would imagine yep and me and my boy frosty used to always get paid to do the indian part huntsville alabama got a lot of indians because there's a space center there or something like that. Easiest crowd to DJ. Hey, baby. Hey, baby. Hey, baby. Who the fuck sang Halle Berry? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Easiest party is the DJ. You know why? Yeah, I know why. Why? The Jay-Z song. That's all they wanted. That's all they wanted. They don't matter.
Starting point is 01:52:38 For all the people getting there and trying to play some other shit, I'll be talking like, hey, man, let's get to it. Fuck this small talk let's get to Punjabi MC and hours the one song over and over I'm like wow
Starting point is 01:52:55 because they were so pleased you knew it you know what I mean it's Punjabi MC with Jay Z who didn't know that record who didn't know that record it was unbelievable
Starting point is 01:53:03 that one song all night long. Now, dance, get drunk, have a good time. Sharla, man, speaking of rap, there is a song that apparently you have done a cover of that's out there right now. What song? Apparently, you've done a cover of Grippy. Nah.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Sharla. Sharla, stop it. I don't know nothing about this. KK and we be on big game. I prefer rolling naked. That's where I'm holding a plane. This, this, this. Green bean.
Starting point is 01:53:35 We got to get rid of AI, bro. We got to get AI the fuck out of here. Nah, don't to die. You said it. You didn't know it? J. Cole, the reference track. I never even heard that record. I mean, I heard of it because everybody was talking about how bad J. Cole's verse was. What did you think about J. Cole the reference track. I never even heard that record. I mean, I heard of it because everybody was talking about
Starting point is 01:53:46 how bad J. Cole's verse was. What did you think about J. Cole? God damn, you bricked up again. You talking about me talking about Brip-Bee. Y'all see that song? Brip-Bee. You need to shake it off. Y'all make that with A.I.?
Starting point is 01:53:57 Nah. Yeah, we got to get rid of A.I. We got to get rid of A.I. What did you think of J. Cole's comeback song? I didn't even listen to it. Same. Same. I heard of it. I didn't even listen to it. Same. I didn't even hear it. I heard of it.
Starting point is 01:54:08 I heard people saying how bad it was. I didn't even listen to it. Now, we have another song also that you've rapped on. All right, let's hear it. All right, Mark. Oh, this one's a banger, bro. You haven't heard this? There's a lot of radio play right now.
Starting point is 01:54:25 You know this one. I've been a nasty girl. Let's go! Yo, D-Fun AI, yo. Hey, match my freak. Hey, match my nasty. D-FUN-A-I D-FUN-A-I
Starting point is 01:54:48 Wait till they start singing though Cause it feels like Everywhere in there hurts That's scary That is scary cause they nailed it And it's probably easier with us Since we got thousands of hours That is scary, yo.
Starting point is 01:55:05 All right, one more. We got one more banger for you, bro. We got one more banger. This one's an original. Don't be doing Million Dollar Baby. That's what I want. This is a real one, though. I'm sleeping well.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Look weak as hell. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. I'm sleeping well. Yo, that's scary as fuck.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Well, we got to give credit because our boy Jake wrote it. Yeah. And then they used... Oh, okay, okay, okay. So they basically... Yeah, you can describe it, Mark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this dude is actually Jack.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Jack Champ. I thought it was Jake for a long time. Jack Harlow? No. Basically. No, this dude is actually jack jack champ i thought it was jake for a long time jack harlow no basically no this dude jack he's a rapper and basically what he's able to do is he raps the song with his voice okay and then he takes your voice and then puts it on top of his voice so it sounds like you're rapping it oh i think his name is jake it says in the email jack maybe that's his rap name but jet his name is i think i fucked it up it's jack i called him jake day one i met him at the garden I said
Starting point is 01:56:25 yo what's up Jake he's probably so nervous he just did the garden anyway yo don't ever be afraid to correct somebody when they say your name wrong my bad Jack
Starting point is 01:56:33 shit let's fuck Miles' fault yeah fuck you Miles anyway but no he was he's nice with it so he wrote a
Starting point is 01:56:39 he wrote a couple but this one's fire that shit fire as fuck you sound good I'm just scared of this shit, yo. I'm telling you. What, you're going to get a bad boy deal? No.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I'm going to say it was AI. That's a world. Somebody's going to use that to have a world leader set this shit off. Yeah, that's possible. It's only a matter of time. That's possible. Because that could just be something that can be broadcast over a social media platform. How would it sound if Kim Jong-un was
Starting point is 01:57:08 gonna... I bet you if you do that, you'll realize how much regulations they got on this shit. Yeah, they got some. I bet you if you do that, like have Putin or Kim... What's his fucking name? Kim Jong-un. Yeah. Or Xi Jinping. Exactly. The one from China. If you have one of them say that
Starting point is 01:57:23 it's a nuclear threat, I bet you your computer will fucking freeze up. Yeah, explode. Exactly. The one from China. If you have one of them say that it's a nuclear threat, I bet you your computer will fucking freeze up. Yeah, explode. Immediately. Really? But you can guarantee your advantage, too. Let's say you say something, and they say, say I. Y'all two years late.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I've been doing that. What are you talking about? There you go. So it goes both ways. I've been doing that. Yeah, that's your trick. Say I. I don't even think people care about, you cannot care about old shit no more because of AI.
Starting point is 01:57:47 Thank God. And that's going to be the crazy thing. What a relief. Because you don't know, and that's the other scary part about life, right? If you got to navigate through every single thing that somebody puts on your table, like before I even determine what my opinion
Starting point is 01:58:02 or feeling about it is, I got to figure out if it's real first. Who got time? Nah, don't have it. I ain't got time, so it is. I got to figure out if it's real first. Who got time? Nah, don't have it. I ain't got time, so fuck it. I don't even care. That's dangerous. What do you think happens with the legislation shit?
Starting point is 01:58:13 Because I saw that, I think Scarlett Johansson, I don't know if she was suing or she was complaining that... She said her lawyers are looking into it. Okay, they are. So Chad GBT released the voice for their AI, and it sounds like Scarlett Johansson. In Her, which is a movie where she voices an AI. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:31 And I think even Sam Altman, the guy who runs Chad GBT, tweeted out Her. Now, they also engaged Scarlett Johansson's agents to see if they could use her voice, and then they ended up not doing it. I guess the point is, like, and this is no different than anything else, right? A new thing pops up,
Starting point is 01:58:49 and you have to find some legislation for it to protect people's intellectual property. Yeah. But she should be able to sue if they're using her IP. But I wonder, what is the legality of impressions? So apparently the woman that they got to do this, like, their defense is they say, I know some people are saying it sounds like Scarlett Johansson.
Starting point is 01:59:06 She's saying that yada yada. But we hired a voice actress that happens to have a similar intonation from a similar region. Dove, do you remember the radio commercial in California when we were going to school that was an impression? It was like for some auto thing, but it was an impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger, an impression of, it was like three or four impressions, and it clearly wasn't those people, but an impression is using their voice. Do you remember that? What was it for?
Starting point is 01:59:32 I don't know, but I guess I remember hearing this on the radio going, how can they get away with this shit? They're using somebody's likeness to promote a product that they're not getting compensated for. So can you just do an impression of somebody? And if you can do an impression of people, AI's impression is going to be perfect. Is AI an impression though?
Starting point is 01:59:52 I think parody, you're allowed to do under parody maybe. Whoa, whoa, that's a great point. Sorry. AI is not an impression. It is the actual synthesis of that person's voice where parody is an impression. So AI is fraud. AI is an impression. So, AI is fraud.
Starting point is 02:00:08 AI is identity theft. Yeah. That's why they took her voice down immediately. Oh, so they stopped it? Yeah. Okay. Oh, as soon as Carla complained,
Starting point is 02:00:15 they pulled it. Oh, so that's an admission of guilt, but I still need some money for paying the damages. Yeah. No, for real. Because you had people
Starting point is 02:00:22 fucking asking me about shit that I didn't want to be asked about. Like, seriously, people were running up on me in the airport asking me about shit that I didn't want to be asked about. Like, seriously. People were running up on me in the airport asking me about whatever the fuck was on that commercial. I don't know anything about it. Interesting. You know?
Starting point is 02:00:31 And now I feel stupid. I don't want to feel stupid. So you made me, put me in a position to feel stupid. So I need some money for that. Mm-hmm. That's reasonable. Damn. I don't see the problem.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Don't sue us, Charlotte. No, no, no. Sue Jack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. When I sue, I sue big. No, for real. Lawsuits are hard.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Lawsuits are not easy to win. So if you're going to win them, you might as well use the bad. You got to get, yeah, because it's going to cost you money. That's the thing people don't realize. That's why I be so sad about this new generation of, like, broadcasters and everything, because they're getting sued and stuff, not realizing. In order for you to, if you get sued, you got to hire a lawyer to reply. Oh.
Starting point is 02:01:04 That shit costs money. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Hiring the, it just, man. That process is crazy. realizing in order for you to if you get sued you gotta hire a lawyer to reply oh that shit costs money oh yeah just hiring the it just that process is crazy and what they don't realize is sometimes bigger people like maybe yourself others have a lawyer on retainer so you're already paying that's right and you want that guy to go to work i'm paying every month if we're not suing anybody i'm wasting money that's right that's right that If we're not suing anybody, I'm wasting money. That's right. That's right. That's right. You never know. You never know when a lawsuit is brewing. You never know. And you never know when one's going to sue.
Starting point is 02:01:29 When you're cooking something up. Or when you might hit somebody with it. That's right. You never know. That's right. And the laws are fucked up now just because like- They better save up. You don't need a-
Starting point is 02:01:37 Some people don't even need a lawyer to file a suit. And we live in an era- That's what a lot of these cases are, right? Because what happens in a lot of these cases cases these lawyers go to people and these lawyers say hey um if you don't pay us x amount of dollars we're gonna go to the press with this story yeah exactly and so now you got a lot of people that are like man i don't give a fuck that shit gonna last and that shit gonna be in the news cycle 12 hours anyway whatever go do your thing we'll fight it in court but then you have some people who'll be like i don't want that shit to get out of the room my reputation blah blah and that and so they'll pay it off i'm curious
Starting point is 02:02:14 why do you think diddy went so hard to not settle with cassie earlier like why did he actually allow to get that ego yeah ego ego he didn't he didn't he got away with it for decades you start knowing yeah but knowing the evidence sets out you start to believe you're invincible and the delusion think about getting away with that for 20 years oj killed his wife after beating her like 20 allegedly allegedly no he did beat her like 20 times but then allegedly killed her allegedly killed her killed her. Allegedly. Yeah, I think the thing with Diddy is like, yeah, it's ego. And if you think that you have this type of control over a person, you don't think that person would ever play with you. You think that you put enough fear of God in this person or enough fear of Ciroc.
Starting point is 02:02:57 I don't fucking know. Just enough fear of something to where this person would never cross you in that way, shape, or form. this person would never cross you in that way shape or form but no this young lady went found her a new man who i'm sure and empowered her in in different ways poured into her gave her that confidence and that scrim she needed and i'm not i'm not just giving all the credit to the man but i'm sure that helped that's fine i like that but i'm sure that helped and she said fuck it you know we're gonna now now let's do it, it is. Why do you think he was so fearless? Because there's a lot of reasons that he afraid.
Starting point is 02:03:27 I don't think he was. We don't, see, that's the thing, because we think he was fearless. That motherfucker probably was shaking in his boots at home. We don't know. You know, I was wondering, I was wondering if Diddy was scared
Starting point is 02:03:35 to go after him because he's white. Because he's blowing up Kid Cudi's car for trying to go on a date with Cassie. Allegedly. Allegedly. Blowing up, yo, I'll blow up your fucking car. You're famous. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:45 I think there might have been so much fear, just like, he's a white dude. This will be a different thing. This is like... Maybe. Because he seemingly unscathed. No cars got blown up of his.
Starting point is 02:03:53 His Toyota Yaris didn't take a fucking... You know what I mean? Or maybe he not easily accessible like a kid Cuddy would be. You know, our kid Cuddy's... But I've been wondering about that. This guy stood up in the face of a lot of fear and i do give credit for that he never he never gave a
Starting point is 02:04:09 fuck but also he was in love you in love man you're gonna ride for your woman the same way he probably gave cassie confidence cassie probably gave the husband mad confidence too and we don't know the husband probably was a person who never gave a fuck anyway fuck y'all i ain't scared of you niggas did he might not literally literally did he might not have been like as concerned with public perception of some random white dude dating cassie oh but he might be concerned that seems disrespectful that seems like it cuts out my power yeah my ex is dating this other rapper that's valid yeah so and i think those types of people the sociopaths they they can only really think about themselves and the power that they're exerting around them and if it looks as if
Starting point is 02:04:51 someone's chipping away at that power in any way they're like fuck you you gotta go down the scariest part about that shit is the fact to what we've been saying the old pod is like that he just was lying up until the day before the video came. These people are crazy. Like if I knew that there was a video out there that existed of me doing some shit like that, I couldn't lie to myself.
Starting point is 02:05:13 Bro, I'll just shut the fuck up. There's a, yeah. I guess he thought he was safe because he owned the video. Yeah. Well, he didn't know there was another copy. So there's a video of Diddy. He don't like Paris, does he? He only had one sock. He thought it was one video. He didn't realize there was another copy. So there's a video of Diddy. He don't like Paris, does he?
Starting point is 02:05:25 He only had one shot. He thought it was one video. He didn't realize there was a whole other fucking video out there. Jesus Christ. There's a video of Diddy that I look at completely different now. But it's the video of him. He makes a deal. He's in some shitty office.
Starting point is 02:05:39 And then he slams the phone down. He goes, I cannot be stopped. I'm upset. Have you seen that video? We all know this video. And I look at that completely different now. How do you look at it now just i am an absolute tyrant and i thrive so much off of conquest conquest and this is evidence of a conquest and it is fueling every fiber of his being yeah i agree with that but it goes back to the same thing i said about kanye those same things that make people great also make them fucked up and evil if you
Starting point is 02:06:13 don't have it in check it's the fire the fire can be a furnace that's right your whole building or that's right destroy it that's right like you gotta have that shit in check like you gotta have your your ego in check because that shit can go either way. You can have this shit fuel you to greatness or it can be the thing that causes you to ultimately self-destruct. Yeah. That's why whatever it is that you're great at, whatever that energy is, whatever that gift is, you always got to make sure you're constantly using it for good because you can flip it in two seconds and use it for the foulest shit. How have you stayed humble? How have you checked your
Starting point is 02:06:45 your success and was it a process to get there success it's out success is not the check your ego check your yeah it's the ego that needs checking to your success it's a constant like you know what i'm saying like it's something you have to constantly do it's not something that you that happens do you want so if you're lucky it happens to you one time and you reel it in i think mine is just knowing that all of this shit can be over like it ain't none of this shit is guaranteed like think about all these people that we're talking about had way more than we have currently not saying that we're not gonna get there but yeah it can any anybody's legacy can be burned down. Any powerful dictator can be touched. And by the way, any tyrant can be touched.
Starting point is 02:07:29 And it's not even always somebody taking you out. You're not exempted as ease. You know what I'm saying? Like anything can happen to you. So I constantly just think about, number one, losing it all. Number two, honestly, I still think about what's after this i'm not one of these people who's just like yolo fuck it we on earth after here it's over my
Starting point is 02:07:52 mindset is still there still might be something after this you want to be good and i want to be good for that just in case yeah there's too much stories out there yeah of there being an afterlife and you know what comes after this for some of this not to be true and how about this I don't want to keep repeating my shit here I did earth once
Starting point is 02:08:12 I'm cool let's go to another dimension you think once maybe you come back more maybe maybe maybe because I haven't figured out the lesson yet so maybe this is the life
Starting point is 02:08:19 where I'm like you know what I finally figured it out I've done what I came to do here it's on to the next dimension facts so that's that's literally my mindset all the time yeah have you talked about I'm like, you know what? I finally figured it out. I've done what I came to do here. It's on to the next dimension. Facts. So that's literally my mindset all the time.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Yeah. Have you talked about your ayahuasca experience publicly? Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit. He said, what's up, too, by the way. Oh, where? Yeah, I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit. I talked about it on Jay Shetty a little bit. I mean, that's actually where, like, I was writing this book, but it was day two of my ayahuasca experience that made me um have a revelation and it was stop
Starting point is 02:08:52 lying to yourself and stop volunteering those lies to other people because we all wake up every day and we throw on a mask right like and and sometimes you don't even mean to you just do it because gets you through the day gets you through the motherfucking day. So to walk around without the mask, to walk around without any sort of armor, to always be your vulnerable, authentic self, that's hard, bro. That's difficult. But day two of my ayahuasca journey, that came up. And then that's when everything just started to flood in. Like, yo, get honest or die lying like like because i kept saying i kept saying uh
Starting point is 02:09:28 true for die like it was like travel that was true for die like and then it just started rolling in get honest or die lying get honest or die lying get honest or die lying and i realized that's what my journey has been throughout my whole life trying to show up and be the most authentic throughout my whole life trying to show up and be the most authentic honest version of myself as possible but what happens is you end up being real with everybody else except for yourself because it's easy to do it's easy to it's easy to tell you your haircut's up right no no i'm not saying your hair is up i'm just like it's easy to tell somebody else specific example no i'm just saying i was just fucked up. I'm just saying. It's easy to tell somebody else. That was a very specific example. No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:10:06 I was just looking at him. No, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. It's easy to call Alex gay. Yes. But have you explored your possible gayness? No.
Starting point is 02:10:17 I'm just using these as examples. That's a great example. No, I'm just using these as examples. The point is, it's easy to point out what you see in other people, but it's hard to look in that mirror and point out your own. Do you see homosexuality in Alex? While you were on ayahuasca, did you? Alex didn't come up for me.
Starting point is 02:10:38 He didn't come up. But I'm telling you, ayahuasca, it is an amazing thing because anything that you've ever suppressed in your life. That's coming up. Oh, my God. So what'd you see? My God. Yeah, I want to know what you saw, what happened.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Diary of a CEO title? Yeah. I was trying to remember the title. I can't do it. I did, though. Probably. A lot of that did come up. A lot of that did come up.
Starting point is 02:11:04 Can you tell us? Come on. You talked to Jay about it. No, I didn't talk to Jay too much about it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I gave him enough. The interesting thing is this all happened in February, so it's still a lot to process. Got it.
Starting point is 02:11:16 You know what I'm saying? So take your time with it. You might have already spoken about this if you have. I'm sorry. What made you start the... Was there like a tipping point where you're like, yo, I need to journey of mental health bettering myself etc or did it just kind of happen naturally yeah 2016 i mean i feel i just i've always been on that journey it's the it's when you veer off it's when you when it's when you're not being you it's when you're doing things that you know
Starting point is 02:11:42 aren't you i was losing i was losing myself to this industry shit that's what i was losing myself to you know what i mean and and i mean not losing it to where i would show up to a ditty party but losing it to where it's just like yo i don't even move like this you know what i'm saying like it's not even my my style so it's like that's what really got me on the journey of saying yo i, I got to figure this out. Plus dealing with the anxiety and the depression and finally having some money and knowing what it was. I never knew what it was before. So now knowing what it was
Starting point is 02:12:13 and having the language for it and knowing other people who was going to therapy and shit, that's what started me on my healing journey. Because I remember going to therapy being a big decision. You would remember being like, all right, I'm finally getting in.
Starting point is 02:12:23 For me, it was I'm with my girl. I love this this girl i keep getting in these big fights it keeps fucking things up i gotta start working on this that's right so i'm curious if there was a thing for you where it's not it was like the same thing you know i was fucking up my household yeah um and i just wasn't happy yeah like genuinely should be you got every you got every fucking thing yeah genuinely just was not happy that's that's why this weekend was so crazy because I'm like, I'm having a crazy ass panic attack and I'm depressed
Starting point is 02:12:50 and I have no reason to feel like this. I was like, you know what? I am retarded. I totally understand why I'm in these fucking classes. You're worried about that book coming out. It was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:03 That's still the vulnerability. When I called my therapist Sunday, what did he say? He did say that to me. I released it. It was out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my vulnerability. When I called my therapist Sunday, what did he say? He did say that to me. I wrote it down. He said, anxiety comes with doing new things. It's unhuman for it not to be, which I knew already. But this panic attack Saturday was crazy. Where was it?
Starting point is 02:13:18 I was at home. Wow. Watching what? What the fuck was I watching? We were watching something on TV because I kept going under the covers. What the fuck was I watching? We were watching something on TV. Because I kept going under the covers. What the fuck was I watching? How can you not laugh at that?
Starting point is 02:13:35 Like, I want to be there for you, but that shit is super gay. You and your wife watching something on TV and you running under the covers. I was. You know what's so funny? What? I was on the couch like. You know what's so funny? What? I was on the couch like... And his wife's like, don't worry, you'll be all right.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Now, I took three Tyson bites. I should have only took one. That's the part I didn't miss. And I think they were sativa and not... Oh, so you had your brain active. Oh my God. And you got this big thing underneath all of that. Oh my God. I think they were sativa and not oh so you had your brain oh my god and you got this big thing
Starting point is 02:14:07 underneath all of that oh my god it's a real multiply the only reason I took three of them is because there was two it was like two and a half
Starting point is 02:14:14 so it was like ten milligrams a piece so it was like twenty five milligrams and I just popped and I'm like what the fuck is happening right now
Starting point is 02:14:22 yeah you had a pain attack from marijuana yeah stay off the weed yeah okay listen before we before we get out of here what the fuck is happening right now yeah you had a big impact from marijuana yeah okay listen before we before we get out of here i'm sorry um i know there's a lot of people out there probably relating with me like oh i have one i was on the cover just a drug guy okay before we get out of here oh hold on That's a bar too My therapist told me What Cause you said addicts
Starting point is 02:14:48 Yeah He said always remember Cause I was talking about The people I hadn't even seen No comments or anything He said always remember That the people on TV
Starting point is 02:14:56 And social media Are addicted to attention Yep People in the comments Are addicted to attention And we don't listen To people behaving From the perspective of addicts.
Starting point is 02:15:06 Oh, fuck. That's fire. Straight up. That's fire. He said we don't listen to people behaving from the perspective of addicts. That's fire. And if we treated them like crackheads, all of a sudden we could laugh at their behavior a little bit more. Now, mind you, growing up, there's definitely crackheads that I learned from, right?
Starting point is 02:15:24 But I learned what not to do. So it's the same thing. Why are we listening to these people who don't have their shit figured out? We don't listen to people who speak from the perspective of addicts. That's fire. Yeah. Now, listen, there's a chapter nine in your book, Before We Leave. Yes.
Starting point is 02:15:44 Can I do one question before? Yes, please. How many more years of The Breakfast Club? Oh, the hard questions. I don't know. I mean, you really don't know. Like you die. How many more years you want to do it?
Starting point is 02:15:56 I got a number. I definitely I personally have a number. But it's not even just Breakfast Club. It's just being talent, period. Is that a financial number? Is that a year? No, no, no, no. It's not a financial number.
Starting point is 02:16:11 It's just like I like being behind the scenes a lot more nowadays. I remember you telling me that at MSG, and that was interesting. Is that what you see yourself transitioning to after you get out? Yeah, I'm doing that now. Like full-time? Yeah, I'm executive producing. I got my own book in print where we're putting out other people's books. Me and Kevin Hart got the company SBH Productions with Audible.
Starting point is 02:16:36 We're executive producing all of that. Audio is cryptic content that's going to turn into documentaries and movies and stuff in the future. I'm getting in the movie game in a real way like that. What what was that movie you did um 88 yeah that's a political thriller but i got i got another movie play that's going what do you talk about that not yet what do you like more about being behind the scenes empowering other people watching other people get their shit off watching watching other people become you know these great entities that people so you enjoy watching i love that yeah same no i don't andrew i feel it diddy joe i feel it I know you said it. He felt giddy.
Starting point is 02:17:22 What do you feel? What do you feel? What do you feel? What's up? I'm a nasty. Guys, this has been Flagrant. Make sure you go out and get Get Honest or Die Alive. It's our third book.
Starting point is 02:17:35 Go get it right now. We love you, brother. We appreciate you. Thank you so much for all the game over the years. Wizard. Everything you shared with me. I need you to sign my copy. And you're the fucking man.
Starting point is 02:17:44 We're going out there flagrant, Asshole Army, go grab this book, you can get it digitally. You did the reading for it as well. I did the audio.
Starting point is 02:17:50 Charlemagne's voice. Mad people be running up on me going, Asshole Army. Gang. I'd be like, oh shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:57 It's a Diddy Party saying right there. Yo, it's crazy. I've been having to explain it to people. If you're in the airport and somebody just wants to do Asshole Army and it's like an old white lady you've been talking to, she's crazy. I've been having to explain it to people. If you're in the airport and somebody just wants to do Asshole Army
Starting point is 02:18:06 and it's like an old white lady you've been talking to, she's like, oh, what is that? I'm like, oh, nah, my man got a podcast. I'll be telling him, here we go.
Starting point is 02:18:15 We're going to gang, gang, gang. We love y'all. We appreciate y'all. Peace.

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