Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Danny Brown's WEIRD Way of Surviving Prison

Episode Date: October 13, 2022

Danny Brown is a wild boy & came through to tell us some of his WILDEST stories - show him some love andcheck out his pod after this one, you won't be disappointed! 00:00 Cheating takes too much effo...rt 03:14 Top 1% of OF are special 05:28 It’s all Too $hort’s fault 07:12 Jail saved Danny + Registry was lit 21:27 Terrible dealer 22:21 The Ultimate “Revenge” Story 27:34 CIA targeted Danny 32:35 Captain Black Planet loves White Women 35:19 Danny girl’s saved his life 38:12 Dr Umar Johnson is the GOAT 40:08 Favourite musician + impact of LL Cool J 45:14 How Music career started 48:13 Detroit hated him at first 52:54 Fashionista because of his father 55:30 Eminem being an inspiration 01:03:36 SXSW + Austin made Danny 01:08:50 Addiction Struggles 01:11:49 Danny is NOT afraid of death

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Starting point is 00:00:00 One of them just came up the floor. He's like, man, this ain't got no heater on him right now. We about to beat this up. I was like, what? What's up? I don't know what happened. All I remember, a face just got close to mine. Like he did something like Michael Jackson dance.
Starting point is 00:00:11 And then he waved at me up. It was statues broke and trash everywhere. I had a Timberland tree in the middle of my head. I remember waking up in the morning, looking in the mirror, like, this life ain't for me. So they whooped me bad. So I always had that grudge with these. And I'm like, I see the in his home.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Work in the registry. This locked up. He's sitting in the cell with the cardi's on. And he's by himself, too. I fake it off. I go get a push broom. So as soon as I get in the cell, I try to hit the with the broom.
Starting point is 00:00:39 This some Jack Lee shit. Caught the broom. caught the broom and gave me three stiff... Boom, boom, boom! I dropped the broom and just ran out. What's up, everybody, and welcome to Flagrant. Today, we are joined by the one, the only, Danny Brown.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Hey! Yeah! And Danny was just telling us about how taking mushrooms makes you cheat or something. What was it? I didn't say it meant to cheat. You were like, it told you to cheat. No, it told me to jump out the window.
Starting point is 00:01:10 And cheat. It said, get out the window and search for new vaginas. I mean, I think that's just like, it's an old Patrice O'Neal bit. Okay. You know that. You're starting out right. You're starting out right now. But he has the bit where he talks about, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:25 What is cheating, really? Women have periods. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But a man's period. Shockingly unfair. Those are the words he used. New pussy. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:01:31 You ain't had no new pussy in years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're chilling with your girl. She's like, why is this nigga so edgy? Why is this nigga so mad? What's going on? We just, we having a great time. This nigga always angry.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You know. Yeah. You wake up like, oh, shit. This again. Yeah, yeah. I love you, baby. You're cheating on this camera with Alan. Come on.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Come on. Scam likely. He done fucked up. We going too far you told us all the goals before we started recording you know we're gonna bring it up yeah that's true I'm a one woman man
Starting point is 00:02:18 say again a one woman man at a time right now okay good good you're wearing voices you're wearing voices as a foot man At a time? Right now. Okay. Good, good, good. You're wearing voices.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You're voicing for a beat man. That is a beat man, bro. No, no. You did say something beautiful. You did say something beautiful about cheating. You were like, I don't want to cheat now because I'm lazy. Remember? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It's over now. I mean, I'm too old. I don't think I'm that good at the internet. Ah. You know, these kids, they get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the artists that signed to my label is a looper. He's like the youngest guy on the crew. He's like, yeah, Danny, you don't really know how to do the internet. You don't get
Starting point is 00:02:55 it no more. I think I'm passed on. I gotta think. I'm from the old school. I'm from writing.com and all that shit. That's what we use the internet for, to just see the most fucked up shit. But now, the internet is your life. That's your whole shit. Your social media presence, whatever the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:03:09 So I do stay away from Twitter and Instagram as much as I possibly can, because it is triggering. And then I got into TikTok, not actually just being on TikTok, but you know, you're just watching TikTok. Bitches on TikTok. You're like, what's this bitch do?
Starting point is 00:03:25 You know what I mean? You say, all my links. Click to all my links. Oh, yeah. That's how they get you, bro. Yeah. That's scam definitely. That's scam definitely, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's what that is. That is a scam likely. And I'm not an OnlyFans type nigga. I ain't going to buy no bitch OnlyFans because I'm that good at the internet. I can figure out a way to get it for free. Oh, yeah. We're on that. So I'm a fortune
Starting point is 00:03:45 ready guy i'm bad i'm bad news yeah yeah why not support some of these young struggling women though what are you talking about how did this come up nobody chose you to shake booty holes on the internet we ain't gotta pay for that i ain't gotta be a nigga like i'm getting this for free but there's specific stuff that you really like that you't got to pay for that. I ain't got to be a nigga that be like, I'm getting this for free. But there's specific stuff that you really like that you might have to pay for. Like when we first sat down here, you were like,
Starting point is 00:04:11 I like fisting or something, you know. I didn't say I liked it. What did you say? I said I just like the actual aspect that a person would do that to themselves.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You're a special human being. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you like the 1%. You like the 1%. Yeah. It's the will. He doesn't even like the act. He likes the willpower.
Starting point is 00:04:30 It's like, oh, bitch, you doing shit like this? What else you gonna do? Yeah. Once you look at Cameron Haynes fucking hunting his own antelope, that's how he looks at a woman who fits herself. Got you. Lance Armstrong. It's like Tour de France.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Exactly, exactly. It's biking, but- It's not actually like I'm... If we was to actually hook up, it's not like that's something I'm about to go for. That's not something that's in my, you know, that's in my repertoire. You get what I'm saying? Right. But the psychology. Yeah, if you
Starting point is 00:04:55 do that kind of shit, it's like, damn, that would, you know, it's like... Yeah. Milkshake brings my boys to the yard. You're stupid. That's stupid. That's stupid. Like, what can I do? What can I do?
Starting point is 00:05:11 That is stupid. Man, that's that kind of situation, man. Got you, got you. Now, do you think this is because you live the rap life and experienced so much crazy shit that everything's normal? I think it's fucked up that my mom used to listen to Too Short when I was a kid. That is crazy. So my mom used to listen to Too Short a lot. What does she like about it?
Starting point is 00:05:39 I have a work perception of what rap music is, probably. Because rap music was, you know, it's all about the community. Teaching people, telling everybody. You got to think like back in the day, like KRS-One and motherfucking like that. But it started too short with me. So all my shit is about fucking bitches. I didn't know. There's a girl where he's just having a big argument.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And she was like, man, you know, I mean, you rap about fucking bitches and you make it funny. And that's a thing. But I know you're doing podcasts and you know you're getting into comedy now you can talk about other shit but I'm like that's the only thing that's kind of funny to me and everybody can relate that's true but I guess she is kind of right I mean I am smarter
Starting point is 00:06:20 than that to just be you know sitting around talking about bitches all day but what I do with my homies. Yeah. I mean, do you try to be smart with the boys? It sucks. It sucks that podcasts have became this thing. Because I feel like even the podcasts I like,
Starting point is 00:06:34 it's just feel like you just eavesdropping on a conversation with some homies. Yeah. When it's too like overproduced and everybody's like being on point. They're saying shit to not get canceled. That's the shit I don't like. Yeah, it's boring. Because that's not what you would do with your friends. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And if that's the experience you want where you're just hanging out with your boys, you don't want anybody polished. Feels like somebody's wearing a wire or something like that, then it's an uncomfortable environment. It's not cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I was doing a little research on you because I'm a journalist. Really? Yeah. Big journalist. Big time Yeah. Big journalist. Big time journalist. Just wait. You like jail.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'm not going to say I like jail. I just think it was an experience that saved my life. I mean, you know, if you was probably like a white kid, grew up in the suburbs and just shit, your mom sent you to summer camp. Yeah. I never went through that. I'm from the hood. I'm from Detroit.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Are you saying jail is black summer camp it was my son oh dude i went there and it made me discover who i was kind of because i'm you alone and you know i'm always had family you got friends gangs or whatever fucking you know you always feel protected in the hood yeah you know you got some status for yourself or whatever everybody gonna look out for you but when i went to jail all that erased. How long were you in jail? I only did a year. I was in the county, which is even worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 If I would have got— If you got fed, it's a little bit easier. But I did the most you could possibly do in the county. I did a year, which is eight months. But I kept getting caught smoking cigarettes and doing shit, so I was getting extra time. I think I did like two months extra time on what I was supposed to do. It was like, damn, you having this much fun in this motherfucker's house?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Me and Summer Camp. Exactly. But I will say, you meet the funniest motherfuckers in the world are in jail. Why? Like,
Starting point is 00:08:16 you're literally seeing stand-up sets every day. Really? Like, the funniest. Well, you guys just got to entertain one another.
Starting point is 00:08:21 There's nothing else going on. time to write. It's that whole thing. And I, I think, before I went to jail, I was kind of like more shy. I probably didn't talk a lot. Like how I am now. Like I'm funny to everybody and all that kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I can just get into a room and just start talking and be like, I never was like that before that. And I went there and I was by myself. I couldn't, I didn't have nobody. So you got to, if you don't talk, you're going to, nigga going to punk you. It's going to be some shit. Did it happen? Anybody try you? See, it was, see you don't talk, nigga going to punk you. It's going to be some shit. Did it happen? Did anybody try you?
Starting point is 00:08:46 See, I'm an ill nigga. What happened was, I swear to God, what happened was when I first got to jail, I was like normal everybody else. I worked in the kitchen. Yeah. And, you know, washing dishes and shit. They call that water world because you're about to be wet as fuck no matter what you do. It sounds fun, kind of. Water world was terrible.
Starting point is 00:09:06 So I worked in water world, but I had... It really is summer camp. So I was working in water world and shit. We're on the slip and slide. So I was working in water world and shit, but... With rape. And you know, on my rock, that's what they call your premise.
Starting point is 00:09:18 My rock, it was, you know, you got a rock boss. And my rock boss worked in registry. Okay. And registry is literally the best job you can get in jail, because registry is when all the inmates come in and they get registered. So whatever an inmate has on them, you know, they just throw it in the garbage. And you working at registry, you're the one that got to take the garbage out. So you're taking out garbage, you're getting all the cigarettes, all the weed, all the whatever the fuck. Smart.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So you're giving them sense. So you're the guy, so really the person, the people that work at Registry is the one that pulls the supply to jail with cigarettes. Because you know, you're taking all the jail from Registry and you're selling them
Starting point is 00:09:50 to other rocks and shit like that. Are you supposed to, sorry to interrupt this, but like when you go to jail, are you supposed to bring like a pack of cigarettes that you know
Starting point is 00:09:58 is going to be taken but that's your kind of gift? No, I mean, I don't think no one's planning on going to jail. Most people don't plan when they probably get arrested.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You know when you're going to get locked up. I got to have a survival pack on me. Can we stop at the Chevron? I got to pick up... I got a survival pack on me and my balls and stuff. You're going to like a baby shower
Starting point is 00:10:15 or something? I used to believe in disease. What are you talking about, man? It's a gift to the client. That's bro. I'm just saying, you're going in, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:22 You got to spray a booty hole when you come in that motherfucker, man. That's part of registry, too? I used to have to do it every day. Do what? Bro, because when you work in Waterworld, they expect, you know, a nigga going to steal some food or something. You're going to sneak something back up to the rock. In your ass?
Starting point is 00:10:36 So when you get back up to the rock, the CEO of that rock, he'll be like, nuts and boats, nuts and boats. That means get butt naked, spray that booty hole. But you know me, I was still sneaking shit up. But in your booty hole? No, I would sneak cigarettes up. I would cut, you see how your t-shirts made like this? Oh, into the piping. I thought this is why you liked fisting.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I was going to say, bro, that's a little much. Oh, let me get back to the story. Let me get back to the story. So my rock boss, they would sit in their fucking dorm room, him and his friends, and they would be rapping. And it's the most terrible rapping you can possibly hear. And you know me,
Starting point is 00:11:09 I really dust and shit. But I don't pelt people. It's not like I'm going to be like, I got bars. I got bars. I don't do that. That's embarrassing, Connor. So I would shut up.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And I maybe probably went through it for like months and months. And just hearing these niggas on a Saturday when we on our off day and they're in their room just doing terrible rapping, rapping to each other. So I just think one day I just got fed up. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:30 And I just kicked in they door like, nigga, boom, we want to show you how this shit really done. And I started rapping for the niggas and just kicked them, spry some ill shit. Because I was writing in jail all the time too. So I just kicked them, spry some ill shit and this nigga was like, he just got enamored by me. And I became like the right hand man to the rock boss on the rock so he like nigga when i leave when i leave um when i get um when i get out of here i'm gonna give you my registry job wow oh so you got hooked up so i left waterworld and he put me in registry now the thing about registry is like i said this is all the new inmates coming in so let's just say you know court days you're you're the guy responsible
Starting point is 00:12:04 for passing out sandwiches to niggas. So every day you about to get into a with a nigga over the sandwiches. Why? Or I might see a nigga, because these niggas are saying shit to you. Oh, you police ass nigga working with these police. You know what I'm saying? You know how niggas is. You got to think all these niggas going to court, they're either
Starting point is 00:12:20 about to go home or they about to go to the penitentiary or about to be in the county. So everybody's on edge. You got to go in a cell, clean up after these niggas and do shit like that. You get what I'm saying? So what I would do is, this is how I avoid a beef. I would find the biggest inmate I can possibly see. He'd be like, how much time you got in this bitch? And he'd be like, I'm about to get out or I'm about to go to penitentiary.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I'm about to be in here for like six months. Oh, you're coming down working with me. So you get the biggest dude to be like- So I'm going to get the biggest nigga. So when I'm passing out sandwiches and shit, I got this- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell him he police. But part two, in jail, they used to call me Snoop.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Okay. Because I had long French braids and shit. I'm obviously tall and skinny. So everybody called me Snoop in jail. And I remember one time he pulled me to the side and he's like, you know, he figured out I finessed him for protection. He was like, Snoop, you wouldn't go through a lot of this shit if you wasn't so self-centered. You need to have a little more empathy for people. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:13:17 Who is this big ass self-aware motherfucker? Go to therapy, Danny. Go to therapy. Miles. Can Dr. Phil in jail? Dr. Kill? We in jail? And this one place to be so sad?
Starting point is 00:13:32 It's this motherfucker. What is you talking about right now? We surviving, man. He's like, yeah, Snoop. You just need to have a little more empathy. Oh, fuck. For inmates? Passing out bologna sandwiches to you?
Starting point is 00:13:47 Got me fucked up. Oh, so to say that again, I was the nigga in charge of all the cigarettes. Yeah. So for the entire time that I was in jail, nobody got cigarettes. What? I smoked them all.
Starting point is 00:14:00 No more selling cigarettes. They hated me. You saved their lives, though. They hated me. You saved them. The whole jail hated me. You saved their lives, though. They hated me. You saved them. The whole jail. I was so ill with this shit. I would only just barter them.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You know what I'm saying? I like, bro, I was so ill. It was one point in time, I was just so plugged into the jail. Nobody got to suck. You're crazy. I got the biggest nigga. I'm doing cartel shit in the county now, man. The cartel sells the drugs, though.
Starting point is 00:14:29 No, I would. I need some cigarettes. You going to braid my hair? Yes. You're a tyrant. You're a tyrant. I had the freshest braids in jail. How do you pick the dude to do it?
Starting point is 00:14:41 I didn't know. It was just one guy. I mean, they want the cigarettes. But he was like, it's the gayest shit ever. It's the gayest do it. I didn't know. It was just one guy. I mean, they want the cigarettes. But he was like, it's the handbraider. It's the handbraider. You're sitting in between his legs and shit like that, son.
Starting point is 00:14:53 That's something. Oh, no, son. Get a buzz cut, bro. What the fuck? If you ain't have the training to bring your hand, nobody should be bringing your shit. Don't forget about this part. I was starting. If you have the trendy nigga braiding your hair, nobody should be braiding your shit.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Y'all forgot about this part. I had bitches in jail. We forgot about it. Oh, I forgot about it. So this is what I used to do, too. So being that I work registry, not only do I have to service all the male inmates,
Starting point is 00:15:21 I got to serve the female inmates, too. Oh, so you actually got to go over there. I would get the court slips. Good save. over there. I would get the court slips. Good save. The what? I would get the court slips. Oh, the court slips. Where every bitch, you're going to see what they're going through and this and that.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And now I see a bitch, I know her number. I'd be like, oh, that's Courtney Johnson, inmate number 55. And I'd just write the bitch a note. Senator, you know, I'm the one that worked registry. I gave you the sandwich the other day. You a bad bitch. You know, we both are here. We both are here going through it, you know what I'm the one that worked registry. I gave you the sandwich the other day. You a bad bitch. Well, you know, we both are here. We both are here going through it, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:49 We can help our time go a little bit easier with communication, you know what I'm saying? So I see you when you come down for work. I throw you an extra little something. I got cigarettes, too. You know, cigarettes. You know what I'm saying? You were listening to Too Short. But what the heck is legs when you sitting there?
Starting point is 00:16:04 If you would act up to the women, why not let them braid your hair? No, I couldn't. Oh, all we had was a window. We have a window. If you was on a certain floor, which was the best rock to be on, you can look out the window and then you can see the bitch's floor too. And we'll be in the window jacking off and shit. They show me titties and shit.
Starting point is 00:16:20 One of my homies got caught jacking in the window. He got sent back to greens. Because, you know, when you work registry, that's when you're in oranges. You know, they put you in an orange uniform. And being in orange, you got a little more leniency. You're getting more fooled. You're getting just a better way of living in a county jail. Being in greens is like Lily Gladiator School.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Like, you sleeping there like 12, man, bunk tears, shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Bro, I was in greens one day, man. That shit was, bro, that shit was the scariest shit in my life. Soon as the motherfucking, soon as it went dark, it was like lights out, you just seen everybody covered. It was like Squid Game, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I was like, no! No! Put my head under the car like, no! I'm in that bitch in the fetal position like, I can't wait to get the oranges, man. He's making the oranges. That's just crazy. See, I was writing all the bitches in there.
Starting point is 00:17:11 One of my bitches got eight years, man. I wrote her through her whole fucking court time, man. What did she do? She stabbed a bitch over her boyfriend. The bitch showed up.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Her boyfriend was fucking with another bitch or something. The bitch showed up on some fighting shit and she just was trying to protect herself. Stabbed the bitch. They gave her manslaughter.
Starting point is 00:17:25 She got eight years for that shit. Wow. Did you guys ever hook up, or was it just notes that you had passed? No, just notes. Did you pick them based off their crimes? No, it'd be bad bitches. How they look, man. It'd be bad bitches in jail.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Really? Yeah. You got to think, man. Drug dealer niggas got bad bitches. A lot of shit. You know, you would see some crazy shit in jail. Like, damn, bitch, what you doing in here? Yeah. What you doing in here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 What you doing in here? So Alex is, in his previous life, used to put black people in jail. No, I did not. I was a court officer. Oh, okay. I just made sure you guys sit down and keep your, take your hat off while you was in jail.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Stop listening to him. He's so alcohol. Stop listening. You the fed. He's so alcohol. He's just stop listening. You the feds, bro. Sure. There you go. All right, so at what point do you start going back to women braiding your hair? Or do you always stay with guys?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Oh, no, I got to finish this part. So it was just a time. You know, you look dirty in jail. Your braids is all fucked up and shit. And I put the word out that I was looking for a hair braider. And then one of the guys, he was like, oh, his whole story was that his mom worked crazy hours at work and then he just had all little sisters.
Starting point is 00:18:34 He was the older brother. So he used to have to back. Yeah, I heard that one before. I had to take care of my sister because my mom was hard at work. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna tell you the worst part about that story. You believe that shit, bro?
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's whatever. Brad Iverson's on type. I'm writing notes to these inmate bitches. I got to look good, man. What are you talking about? Part two, I was wearing Rick Owens every day. Come on, bro. Rick Owens inmate.
Starting point is 00:19:01 That's how I was so into fashion. Still in jail. So I got cool with a nigga that on inmate. That's how I was so into fashion. Still in jail. So I got cool with a nigga that worked in laundry and I would make him give me the biggest shirts he can find and the smallest pants he can find. So my inmate outfits look different anyway. And then I was able to get my Air Max 97s out of the property. So I'm the only nigga wearing Air Max 97s. I thought it was 95s that you liked. No, 95s is my favorite, but I had 97s when I got nigga wearing Air Max 97s I thought it was 95s that you liked No 95s is my favorite But I had 97s when I got locked up
Starting point is 00:19:27 That's why I never wear them again I never buy a pair of 97s again Because they remind you of getting your hair braided by a guy Yeah I just think I'm going to jail I just think I'm going to jail man And I love Air Max 97s man But I could never wear them again
Starting point is 00:19:39 Because it just reminds me of being in jail Yeah All silver with the red night It seems like jail wasn't that bad for you, though. Yeah, you seem like you ran it, bro. We just said this. It's summer camp. Yeah, but why don't,
Starting point is 00:19:49 this is like a show. This is a TV show. You run in prison. That's what I was thinking the whole time. This is a comedy. Oh, that would be the funniest-ass show.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Hell yeah. Oh, man, I used to go, I was making these niggas watch America's Top Model. These niggas be mad. Like, man, put the piston game on. No, we watch America's Top Model.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'll see some bitches. And they be like, hey, hey. You ain't have enough dudes jerking off around you having to watch America Talk? I'm having cigarettes. So I can always just give you a cigarette to shit the fuck up. Any given time. I'm in my bunk.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I've got 30 packs. Where are the cigarettes? I'm just hiding in my room. So every time I got raided, I would get caught. That's how I get an extra time. Oh. But you kept your job as registry, even though you got caught. Yeah, because I was snooped, and they were scared to get another
Starting point is 00:20:28 inmate. They were already comfortable with me at that point. The COs were? Yeah. They loved me. I was funny to them. They were like, oh, part two days always tell me, like, you not an inmate. Like, I don't know what happened in your life, but this is not for you. And I hope you never come back. I hope I never, because most people, you know, they always say
Starting point is 00:20:44 you gonna come back. But you, they didn't want to tell you. Next time they saw me, I was on magazine covers and shit. All my CEOs used to hit me up on Twitter and Instagram and all that shit. Like, man, Snoop, you did it. I can't believe you. I can't believe you did this shit. And it was great. But see, even when I was getting my hair braided, I was doing like...
Starting point is 00:20:59 They would swap me out for another inmate on another rock because the inmate that was braiding the hair, he was the best hair braider. He wouldn't know my rock. So I was that cool with the CEO. They would take another, they'd just wake you up like, nigga, Snoop about to come get his hair braided. Go over here.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Now you got to go on another rock tour with these niggas you don't even know for a couple hours while I'm over there getting my shit braided. Get the fuck out of here. Swear to God. Now were you like this outside of prison too? Did you run stuff? Oh, that's what I'm trying to tell you. You were this introvert before that.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I was a spy worker. He was a quiet drug dealer was an introvert before that. I was a spy. He was a quiet drug dealer. Yes. Living his life. I was a terrible drug dealer, to be honest. Wait, why? Because I was always trying to get my dick sucked. You a horny-ass dude, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I could never make my re-up because I'm giving away free rocks all the time. I always got to lot to you. I think somebody stole my sack. Somebody did steal your sack, bro. He was more addicted than they were. Yes. Yo, that's crazy. Oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Okay, so wait. Now, Tom, because I was talking to Tom, he's like, yo, get him to tell you a story when he got revenge on a dude in jail. Revenge? Yeah. Did someone fuck you over or something like you a story when he got revenge on a dude in jail. Revenge? Yeah. Did someone fuck you over or something like that and you had to get revenge on them? No, I don't think I ever really did. Tom, that's what Tom told me. I don't think I ever really did.
Starting point is 00:22:12 That's what I told you. I was bartering cigarettes for everything in life. I got to look to see what he's actually saying. It was a few times. I don't know. Maybe it was something I'm just not remembering. But no, I can't think offhand that I've ever been in real trouble. Oh!
Starting point is 00:22:24 There we go. Yeah, baby. There we go. No, I can't think offhand that I ever been in, like, real trouble. Oh! Yeah, baby! There we go. Was there maybe a cleaning utensil that you might have used? This is what happened. This was a nigga from the street. So what happened was, you know, when you're selling drugs, there's always other drug-dealing crews that y'all beef with. So these niggas was another drug-dealing crew.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And one time I went out to a nightclub and I just got a little too drunk and I was just having a little too much fun, you know? And I went back to the hotel that we were staying at. It was actually my little brother homecoming. He's starting to get older and shit. So we was like taking him out. We got him a hotel room and all that type of shit. So we went back to the hotel room and just so happened, as soon as I go into the lobby, the niggas we beefing with is in the lobby. But we both ignoring each other, kind of acting like we don't see each other. But then I see these two bitches, and I'm like, what's up with the bitches? And I'm starting talking to the bitches.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Part two, these niggas bitches. Oh, come on. So I'm just putting myself in a line of fire. And it's the crazy shit. We come into the hotel, 10 deep. Everybody going to the elevator for me to show them where the room at, except me. So they all, because I ain't seen these bitches, now I'm trying to talk to these bitches. And next thing I know, one of the niggas came up the floor, he's like, man, this nigga
Starting point is 00:23:39 ain't got no heater on him right now. We about to beat this nigga up. I was like, what? Nigga, what's up? Started trying to talk my gangster shit. And then one of the homies actually came in that didn't come in the group with the elevator. He came in. He started trying to break it up. Like, leave it alone, Danny. Come on, come on. And he did break
Starting point is 00:23:53 it up. He did break it up. And then I'm like, you know, just the drunk courage, something in me. I was like, fuck that. Fuck these niggas. And I run back up in there, square my shit up. I don't know what happened. All I remember, a nigga's face just got close to mine. Like he did something like Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I just remember this shit like this. And then niggas was waking me up. It was statues broke. It was a crime scene. Now all my homies coming out the elevator like, what the fuck happened? I'm talking about my face. I had a timberland tree in the middle of my head. I remember waking up in the morning looking in the mirror like, this life ain't for me.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I want to go back to school. I think I need to join Job Corps or something like that. So, yeah, so they whooped me bad. And so I always had that grudge with these niggas. And I'm like, yeah, I'll see them niggas again, it's on. Work in the registry, one day I got the big ass nigga with me, this nigga locked up. The guy who put the Timberland on your head. One of them.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But he's like the main guy, he's like the most popular guy with the crew, so now I see him, his name is Jason, I see him, oh, there's nigga Jason in here. So I see the nigga, but I didn't plan it out too good. Part two, you know Cartier glasses? Yeah. That's like a big staple in Detroit. Yeah. He's in the jail cell with his Cartier glasses on.
Starting point is 00:25:16 That right there should have gave me a sign. Leave this nigga alone. There's no possible way he got his Cartier. They put the tape to Cartier from him. So he wants some status shit to even have the Cartier's. He's sitting in the cell with the Cartier's on. And he got his cardi. They put the tape to cardi from you, so you want some status shit to even have the cardi. He's sitting in the cell with the cardi's on, and he's by himself, too. I fake it off. I go get a push broom.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I go get the push broom, and I fake it like I'm going to go in there and clean the cell and shit. And you know there's cameras everywhere. I said, everybody can watch it. So as soon as I get in the cell, try to hit that nigga with the broom. You know what I'm saying? I go on some shit. I try to hit that nigga with the broom. This nigga did some Jet Li shit that nigga with the broom. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I want some shit. I try to hit the nigga with the broom. This nigga did some Jet Li shit.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Caught the broom. The nigga caught me, caught the broom, and gave me three stiff bitches. That's all I can call them. Stiff bitches. Man, straight to the nose. Like, boom, boom, boom. I just, I dropped the broom and just ran out. Oh, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's getting crazy in here. Because, yeah, I'm like, you know. I'm like, they seen it on camera, so they about to bust in this bitch anytime. They be like, no, Snoop, we seen you start that shitty whoop your ass. So all the CEOs joking on me now. That was the entire joke before I left. So, yeah, that's the revenge story. Come on.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Three still bitches. Boom, boom, boom. I didn't have a backup plan. That's what I said. I didn't, I didn't plan this out right.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I'm about to hit this nigga with the, I just, emotions just crazy to me. I already hit you with the Michael Jackson. This nigga caught the moon, man. And moonwalked out there. I ate him. I ate him like a G.
Starting point is 00:26:53 But I got a body after that. I don't know if I got him. This is a different weight class. This is my weight class. So yeah, I think our beef ended there, man. It's over with. Okay, good. So Jason's good in your book.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, he good. I ain't got no smoke with that nigga. I learned my lesson. Did he get cigarettes while he was in jail, at least? No, I ain't giving that nigga shit. Fuck that nigga. He probably did now. All right, so you get out of jail, right?
Starting point is 00:27:18 And you got confidence now. You know you can run some shit. He got to be dead in jail still. How ain't Jason still walking these streets living in the right? Yeah, you better run some shit. He got to be dead in jail still. How are you still walking these streets living in the dark? Yeah, you better hope, bro. That's crazy. You're going to see this shit coming for you. How did you end up getting your dick suck on stage?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Doing too much molly. Was that it? It was really my fault. I really think it was an Illuminati secret agent just sent me there to destroy my rap career. You don't think you just have a sex addiction that's never crossed your mind? I mean, I think everybody have a sex addiction. That's what addicts say, bro. Everyone loves alcohol.
Starting point is 00:27:59 When you're blaming the Illuminati instead of I need my dick sucked all the time. Let me tell you the next step. Take us through it. Take us through it. This is early in my career. I'm just now starting to really get cracking like that. I got this show, whatever. At the time,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I was doing the shit tone on Molly. That was my drug of choice. I was just doing Molly every day. I'm always horny and weird and shit. It was a lot of girls at the show and they were feeling the boy, you know. But it was like, I would be rapping and I'd be like on this corner and there'd be like a group of girls and they'd be like rubbing me, like grabbing my dick
Starting point is 00:28:34 and shit and all that shit and doing, you know, just being creepy. But then I'd go on the other side of the stage and there's like one 50-year-old looking old white lady and she's doing the same thing, but she's going a little further than everybody else. That's what I'm saying. I think it was a planet agent. And she's doing the same thing, but she's going a little further than everybody else. That's what I'm saying. I think it was a planet agent.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And this is the time I used to wear. I used to wear Rick Owens all the time. You know what I'm saying? So I had the long T-shirt to hang down to your knees and shit. So, you know, they keep grabbing my dick and shit. You know, after Molly, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:28:57 I think I want to feel the real deal. So I go back to my DJ booth. I just pop the motherfucker out a little bit. You know what I'm saying? What do you mean? So now I'm in front of the stage full charge. So you took your own dick out first. So when I went to her side of the stage, she grabbed it.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Oh, it's real. So then she just pulled the shirt up and started doing her thing. Kept rapping. Oh, yeah. I mean, I got to do the show. I mean, I was paid to do a job. And did you let her finish? No, no.
Starting point is 00:29:28 The thing was, it just got so crazy. It just was so fucked up because you got to think, man, there's a lot of guys at the show, too. And they were, like, getting smushed and smashed and they were just getting closer to the dick. I was just seeing the look of horror on niggas' faces. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Like, ah! Getting closer to it. Ah! Ah! Ah! What if Jason just grabbed that shit out of the glass? Three stiff bitches. Three stiff bitches. So I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:29:55 So honestly, to myself, I'm like, after this show, this is who I'm fucking. You got it. Yeah, so where you at, bitch? So I bring the bitch. I get her. And I bring her backstage. She like, I'm on my period.
Starting point is 00:30:05 I can't do nothing. I can't go nowhere. And then just left. And she had like a scary look on her face. Everything about it was just weird. I'm like, dude, this was a government secret agent that was sitting here. And what were you doing that the government want to stop? I was too good at rap.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Too good at rap. That has happened with the government before. They had to put a strike on you. They got to see what is his weakness. That's true. What is his weakness? And then they found it. Too good at rap. Too good at rap. That has happened with the government before. They have to put a strike on you. They got to see what is his weakness. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:30:28 What is his weakness? And then they found it. Let me show you how we can fuck this nigga up. They found it. Yeah, they got me. They got you with sex. Yes. That's men.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I'm a real man. I'm a real man. Did that hurt your career? That situation? I would say so. How? I would say so because that was like the biggest moment of my career. So more people know about that shit than they know about my actual fucking music.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Like I was on Entertainment Tonight, all type of, da-da-da-da-da-da. I'm like, why is this happening to me? Like I'm seeing all type of shit. Everybody's reporting about it. CNN, all type of shit. But they won't talk about my music. They'll talk about me normally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But I tried to spin it until I got sexually assaulted but this was before the council stage so it didn't really work I was running yeah yeah yeah and now that I know that you whipped it out first
Starting point is 00:31:11 it makes it a little harder to prove that point yeah I don't want to talk about it no more you should have just you should have just made it your thing
Starting point is 00:31:21 that's a good point you're getting your dick done on stage this one made it worse. So after that show, I think I came to New York maybe a few dates later. And you know how you want to get content and shit. And they was interviewing people on the line. And I remember this one dude on the line.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He's like, man, I don't know who Denny Brown is, but if he getting his dick sucked at shows and he got bitches like that in the crowd, I'm definitely pulling up. So it became this thing of where guys thought the girls at my shows was free-calling. So what happened was, I would always get these messages from girls, like, Danny, I love you, I'm a huge fan, and all that shit, I love your music and shit, but I can't go to your shows.
Starting point is 00:31:55 The guys there are so fucking creepy. It's just all fucked up. So it got to the point where I wanted to, I stopped trying to make that kind of music just to not even, you know? So I don't like rap about like getting my dick sucked songs and shit. Like I would like make a three minute long song about getting my dick sucked. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:12 But now I wouldn't do that no more. Can't even rap about your passion. But now it's a sausage fest. Now I go to my shows, it's not one bitch. You're back in prison. That's what it is. Ain't nobody braiding hair, though. There's no upside.
Starting point is 00:32:29 There's no upside, man. At least they had good workout programs, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Soft Peter. White Lady. Tried to do it. What? Suck your dick.
Starting point is 00:32:38 The 50-year-old. Oh, at the show? Yeah, she was like... Yeah, it was White Lady. Oh, bro, she had no business being there. Your first White Lady? My first White Lady? Yeah, lady yeah yeah bro i'm from the days of black planet what does that mean i would go on black planet just for the white bitches wait white hold on wait i didn't even know that was a real dick
Starting point is 00:32:55 hold on hold on explain black planet to everybody i've never heard of this I've never heard of it. I've never heard of it. Black Planet was a website for dating for black people. But every now and then, you'll see some white bitches on that motherfucker because they want some niggas. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about. You know the type of white girls. I feel like that wasn't real white girls, though. You fucking the type of white bitches on Black Planet, they niggas, too.
Starting point is 00:33:21 You know what I'm saying? I had to grow up in my status of getting a white bitch. You know what I'm saying? Like, these ain't real white bitches. These bitches just worse as us. These bitches EBT card bitches. White bitch with an EBT card is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Three baby daddies that's all black? Aw, man, you a black bitch? So I was like, man, these ain't real white bitches, man. I gotta step my shit up. Yeah, and then when did you step your shit up? I guess when I think now. Now? Now.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I know what a quality white woman is. Because before, you know, you just, whatever. You just doing whatever. See, I was one of those guys, man. Detroit is predominantly black. You know, everybody would talk about interracial relationships and all that shit. And I was, motherfuckers be attracted to who they're attracted to. I don't know. It was just something in me. I was always attracted to who they're attracted to. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:05 It was just something in me. I was always attracted to white women ever since I was born. I don't feel bad about it. You get what I'm saying? I remember fucking driving past the Catholic school seeing that motherfucker let out. All them bitches come out
Starting point is 00:34:14 with that skirt on. I'm on the bus going to motherfucking Sweden house to go work, wash dishes and shit. Looking at that shit like, one day, bitch. Damn, I have one of you.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Nigga was always horny. This is the most horny dude I have. Crazy. And then? I mean, like I said, it was hard because, you know, as a nigga, you got to start out fucking fat white bitches. Right, right, right. Why is that, you think? That's the gateway drug.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Because that's what they want. You know, you got to go with who like you first. Yeah. You know that, you think? That's the gateway drug? Because that's what they want. You got to go with who likes you first. You know what I'm saying? If you like white women as a nigga, you ain't got no money or a place to live. A fair white bitch is a goal. Yeah, okay. What? Saving your life.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So many couches I've slept on. What? Monkeys are that've slept on. What? Eating monkeys or that kind of shit? What? Wait, what? Eating a monkey or... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I miss the eating part.
Starting point is 00:35:19 What race has the best sex? What race fucks the best? I mean, I wouldn't know. But in my head, I would think all the, like, the Latina Mexicans. Because the, come on, buddy. I think they shit just crazy for some reason. How do you not know? You never tried that?
Starting point is 00:35:37 You never had sex with a Latina? They don't like me. Why do you think? Come on, bro. You got to try again. I don't live in New York That's another thing too Yeah but you live in Texas
Starting point is 00:35:47 And I have I'm a one woman man And I have a wife now Yeah Yeah So yeah But I do Oh you're married
Starting point is 00:35:55 Trying to be Trying to be Soon What's that? You don't have a wife now You might have a wife One day soon I want to marry the girl that I'm with now.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And then what's stopping you? Financial reasons. Do I believe you? That's what you got to tell them. Like, when I get the money right. Yeah. When I get the money right. Scam likely.
Starting point is 00:36:29 But no, I mean, yeah. I mean, I do. Because I'm done. I'm old right now, man. I'm 41 years old, man. You're out the game. At this point, it's just creepy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 To be like that, you know? And if she leave me, I know I'm doomed. Because then I'm just going to be back to, bro, during COVID, I was doing like an eight ball a day drinking a fifth of liquor. Really? Bro, four bitches, bro, tripping every day. Like, I was destroying my life fast. I gained like 20 pounds before I moved. And when I moved to Texas, she saved my life.
Starting point is 00:36:59 She moved you? I mean, you know, it was just, I was going out there all the time, dating her. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then when time talked about moving the network to Austin, it was like the light bulb just clicked in my head. Like, he's like, I'm moving to Austin. I'm like, I'm moving to Austin too then. Yeah. And then I moved with her.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And I lived with her like a year before we even got this shit going. Really? You know? And she saved my life, man, because she got me off drugs really and just started really like, I mean, obviously, I'm still going to booze. I'm still going to drink, man. Yeah. It's just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:28 going to comedy clubs and just being around. It's just socially though, but if I'm at the crib, I'm not drinking. Mmm. Coke. No,
Starting point is 00:37:36 I haven't done coke in so long. Really? Yeah. No, I didn't. A couple days ago. It's stupid. It's by mistake. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it's by mistake. Yeah, why? How did you mistakenly do it? What did you think it was?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Because I'm just hanging out with the wrong people and it was like a few lines left on the table and I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to hit him. You didn't want to leave a mess. That's an accident for sure. Yeah. I was just like, man, whatever. Let's tidy up. I don't even think it worked.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It didn't do nothing. I mean, did you do it. It didn't do nothing. I mean, did you do it if you didn't get high? Like, really? I don't think it worked. I don't think it worked. Now, Dr. Umar Johnson. Hilarious. One of my favorite comedians.
Starting point is 00:38:17 The goat? He's one of my favorite comedians. Have you ever had a conversation with him? Oh, yeah. He hate me. Why? Because I love white women. The Snow Bunnies.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Oh. Yeah, I'm his enemy. But you're not. He's going to try to convert me. Yeah. I wish he would convert me. To what? To whatever he wants. Oh, you don't like white women. So what? You don't like white women. I'm married, dude. Oh, okay. Yeah. You think she's white?
Starting point is 00:38:41 I love Dr. Omar Johnson. No, he's hilarious to me. He is, yeah, he's a genius. Like, genius communicator. But he scammed them with the school. Did he? Where's the school? How long did LeBron take to make the school?
Starting point is 00:38:57 I don't know. Yeah, he don't got LeBron's money. I feel like LeBron could snap. LeBron is in multiverses, man. Yeah. When you were a video game kid, have you seen, you know this game I'm talking about? No. It's this new video game.
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's called multiverses. It's pretty much like Smash Brothers. Okay. LeBron, they have LeBron. It's like Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry. It's got all those characters and shit like that. But LeBron is the actual character in it. But you can put whoever you want
Starting point is 00:39:25 as a commentator okay I put LeBron as my commentator but let's go hit him with the punch but I don't think it's LeBron I think it's actually somebody that they got to an impression of LeBron and I feel like it's the most racist shit I have seen in my life how do you know it's not a black dude doing the impression it gotta be white dude really bro why it's too over-the-top it's not a black dude doing the impression? It gotta be white dude. Really? Bruh. Why? It's too over the top? Bruh. I don't think a nigga be saying shit like this. Like what?
Starting point is 00:39:50 Let's go? Da baby. He says that a lot. He goes, da baby? Da baby says that a lot. Oh, yeah. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:40:01 So you might be right. I guess some nigga shit do. I can admit when I'm wrong. Who is your favorite musician? Ever? Ever. Arthur Lee. Who's Arthur Lee?
Starting point is 00:40:15 From the band Love. They made the best album ever, Forever Changes, 1967. He was signed to Capitol Records. He got signed at the same time as the Doors, but he felt like he was way iller than the Doors, and he showed up at one of the Doors listening parties and acted a damn drunk fool, did some Danny Brown shit, and he got blackballed by the music industry at that time.
Starting point is 00:40:37 But he signed so much of a crazy-ass deal that he bought this crazy-ass castle in Hollywood somewhere. So we'd have all people be out in Hollywood and shit, and just doing weird shit, doing all the psychedelics and shit, and just making crazy ass songs. But his songs was so big. We're talking about maybe acoustic guitar as the main lead, and next thing you know, you got a fucking full blown orchestra. The nigga blew the budget on the album.
Starting point is 00:41:03 When you listen to the album, you're like, this nigga went crazy. And we talking about 19th century. This shit is in mono. Like, it's crazy. So, yeah, Forever Changes is my favorite album ever. And outside of that, it'd probably be Nas-O-Matic. Really? And when you were younger, the first rapper that you listened to?
Starting point is 00:41:22 The first rapper that I ever heard? Yeah. LL Cool J. I remember it like it's my... Which song? The first rapper that I ever heard? Yeah. LL Cool J. I remember it like as my, I remember like yesterday. No, it wasn't even that. It was, so I was in kindergarten, preschool, around that time. And, you know, my mom worked at the time, so she had babysitters and shit. My babysitter at the time was my cousin's uncle.
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know, there's so many baby daddies. Yeah, yeah. My cousin's uncle you know you know there's so many baby daddies yeah my cousin's uncle he come picks me up from school and i remember it's raining like like crazy rain and he like daniel i've got time to be fucking with you right now that new ll cool j album just came out and i want to listen to that shit now hurry up man so he grabbed me running through the fucking rain we get back to the house you get what i'm saying? He runs into the basement. Obviously, I follow him
Starting point is 00:42:06 because I'm like, I'm curious now. Like, what the fuck? Why he treat me? You know, it's a normal day. You pick me up from school. Take me home. But this nigga was real like,
Starting point is 00:42:14 bro, don't be bullshit. I don't know what I used to be doing when he walked me home from school, but he's like... Not today. Not today. I swear to God, it's raining. I got the new LL Cool J album.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Bro, we got to get to the crib. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he put that motherfucker out, and he put it, like, the first three beats, like, just hearing the drums. And I was like, oh, this is what I'm about to do with my life. I really decided that day, like, this is what I'm about to do with my life. Does LL know that? No, I don't. You never got a chance to meet him? Mm-mm. Wow. But, yeah, that is what I'm about to do with my life. Does LL know that? No, I don't. Never got a chance to meet him?
Starting point is 00:42:45 Mm-mm. Wow. But yeah, that was literally the first. Like, just hearing the first of my radio. Just hearing, like, the first. He didn't even start rapping yet. And it was, I already made my decision. Like, oh, that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And then I just started rapping. Like, all the time, rapping to myself. I would rap to myself, rap to myself. And then, it's still kindergarten. I'm, like, five years old or something like that. And then, it's still kindergarten. I'm like five years old or something like that. And then it was show and tell in kindergarten. And I didn't know it was going to be show and tell because I don't pay attention in class, obviously. And the teachers like a show and tell day, but everybody got toys and shit.
Starting point is 00:43:19 They showing their shit. I don't got shit. I forgot. So I just went up in front of the class and I just started rapping. But when I finished rapping, the the class and I just started rapping. But when I finished rapping, the whole class jumped up and started clapping. And then the teacher was like, oh my God, Daniel. Like, oh, that was so good.
Starting point is 00:43:32 This is something you had already written? No, it was just a freestyle. You know, back in the day. This is like 80s. Like late 80s. So you know that my name is D in the place to be. I rock the mic so fresh as Lee. I'm rapping shit like that. And my teacher's like,
Starting point is 00:43:46 oh my God, that was so good. That was so good. So I was like, fuck. So then I kept doing it to myself and the actual same uncle. One time, you know, but just randomly playing, I just started rapping in front of him. And then the look he gave me,
Starting point is 00:43:59 he was like, damn. He was like, you didn't write that. I was like, I didn't write that. I was just rapping. I'm just saying some shit. But just that whole expression of him doing that let me know I was doing something good.
Starting point is 00:44:10 So I just kept doing it, but I didn't never tell nobody. Like, I would go to new schools and shit, and I'd be like the whatever kid in class and shit, and I wouldn't tell nobody that I know how to rap. But then one day it'd probably come up, and I'd rap in front of everybody, and I'd be the most popular kid in school the next day. Really?
Starting point is 00:44:24 It literally didn't, because you got to find other kids in school to battle me. So, damn, we making these other shits, and I'm battling everybody. I'm whooping everybody's ass. Bro, there was one time in my life when I was, before I started really selling drugs, and I think it kind of influenced me to start selling drugs, too, because I would walk home from school, and every corner, like, all the niggas that were selling dope and shit, they would all stop me, and they'd give me, like, $100 just to rap for. Really? So, I would, like, get just coming. I would buy Jordans just from, like, all the niggas that were selling dope and shit, they would all stop me, and they'd give me, like, $100 just to rap for. Really? So I would, like, get just coming.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I would buy Jordans just from, like. Rapping? I swear to God. Like, I can walk home from my, when I was, like, in 10th grade, just me walking from Northwestern to fucking Montgomery and Linwood, that whole stretch, I would at least have to rap, like, four times. And I would get, like, fucking $250 or some crazy shit. Just walking home.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Just walking home. And everybody would beg me to do it. So rap has given you social status at every point in your life. Yeah, definitely. That's what it said. Same thing in jail. Oh, that's crazy. So how come you waited until you were 30 to put out your first album?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Nigga, you thought I wanted to wait? They wouldn't let me. Like my first shit was, so when I was about, I don't know, I guess, I mean, in my 20s, that's when I really started going hard at it. Like, my homie, he had a lot of money and shit. Like, he was doing, like, you know, whatever. But he was willing to invest in my shit. So, you know, we made, like, I created a group called Reservoir Dogs.
Starting point is 00:45:41 We made an album. And then we would shop this album everywhere. And then he was like, you know, he'd do trips and go places everywhere. So then he came to New York one time and actually just went to the Universal building and was passing out my demo. And he actually met,
Starting point is 00:45:53 you remember the rapper that was signed to DMX, Bizarre Royale? No. Bizarre Royale got my demo, and he was like, fuck that. I know who to take you to. And he took my guy to Rockefeller. And it was the A&R at Rockefeller at the time. He was an 18-year-old A&R. Travis Cummings, I
Starting point is 00:46:11 just went with him yesterday. He was like, ew. He shouldn't even have been doing it. He was way too young to be doing this shit, but he knew shit. So he took my demo to him, and then him, he listened to it, but he was just like, you know, we was a group, but he was like, nah, the group is tight, but that one, where's Danny at, though? We're on him. So he would talk to me. The next thing I know, I got a relationship with him, and we would talk back and forth, and I would catch Greyhounds. I would catch the Greyhound bus out to New York.
Starting point is 00:46:36 This was way before cell phones. I would have to get here, call him on a pay phone. I got to go to Crown Heights, Brooklyn, Parcheck and Utica. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I'm at a port authority fucking using pay phones and shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:48 You know, and then he would take me to studios just around, but like I say, he still worked at Rockefeller. So what we were doing at the time, we were using, you know, motherfuckers would have these ill-ass budgets. Like, I would be recording on camera in time.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Camera don't even know what the fuck is going on. We going to Sony Studios. He ain't showed up yet. Like, Danny, knock out a song real quick. I'll go in the booth, knock that shit out real quick. Camera at him show up. They didn't even know we did nothing. Oh, wow. So that's how I made like a few of my first mixtapes. It was just us sneaking time on the latest budget.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Crazy. You know, so this is actually before I got locked up too. Yeah. So I was coming out here and I was, you know, making mixtapes. I would come out here for like maybe three, four days, go back home with a whole mixtape. So this was my studio. So every time I wanted to make a project, I got to come out to New York.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You know, and we would steal time from artists and shit like that. Because they were showing up late. Yeah, or they don't show up. There was time being at studio. And then you could order
Starting point is 00:47:35 food on a budget. Or chicken wings fried hard. Who was making your beats and producing it? We'd just get, at this time, you know, he worked at the label, so he can beat tapes from everywhere. Oh, I got you. So he coming through with a whole full shit of beat CDs that they sent in to Cameron.
Starting point is 00:47:53 But he like, what's up? And I'll be going through them, find some raps that I got, put some songs together real quick. So it was real like rush, but it taught me how to be quick in the studio. And then how many years is this, that you're doing this? I feel like we did that for two, three years. And then you finally- All my first Detroit, State of Mind mixtapes, that was all recorded that way. And did Detroit fuck with you heavy first?
Starting point is 00:48:15 They hated my guts. Really? Yeah. Why? Because I wore tight-ass pants and just was, I was like the weird black dude. Oh, did you always dress a little different? Always. And was there any issue with that? Always. What do you mean? I mean, it was like the weird black dude. Oh, did you always dress a little different? Always. And was there any issue with that?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Always. What do you mean? I mean, it was always dangerous for me. Like people pressed you? Like I couldn't go anywhere. I remember one time just being, like I was wearing like tight as fucking like
Starting point is 00:48:34 Carolina blue skinny jeans or like, and I'm going in little suits to get like a hot and ready or some shit and just a hood ass nigga, he ain't got no shirt on or nothing. He just walk in and look at me like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 this nigga gay! That's Detroit shit. And I'm like, what am I supposed to do in this moment? Do we fight? Let me get out of here. So I just wouldn't go places. I wouldn't, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But it would give me validation because then when I would go to New York or I'd go to L.A., it felt normal because everybody else dressed like that too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just my city was slow to catch up. And now you go to Detroit, everybody wears skinny jeans. They all fat now and they can't even fucking wear them.
Starting point is 00:49:14 They just got booty do. Interesting. Okay, so it starts to kind of- When did Detroit come around? To me? Yeah. I mean, I'm from Michigan. Michigan came around.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I don't think Detroit ever did. You feel what I'm saying? And that's cool, too, because I can go there and be comfortable. Because the thing is about Detroit, it's like an attitude of, I don't give a fuck who you are. It's not like a celebrity-based place. Detroit-verse everybody. No one's going to give you like-
Starting point is 00:49:40 So when I go there, and I can hang out anywhere I want to, and you can know who I am, and you're not going to acknowledge it. Right. I don't have no one coming up to take a picture. It's like, oh, Danny? Fuck Danny. Really? It's safe to be like that.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah, you prefer it. Because there's other rappers that don't have that, and everybody's running up on them doing shit. I'd rather be famous in New York than Detroit. Because it's more dangerous to be famous in Detroit. What are you talking about? So I think I'm older too. So I think they kind of look at me like an OG kind of. So it's like, just see me around and shit.
Starting point is 00:50:14 So the only people that really do fuck with me is like the little white kids and shit like that. Really? So like the niggas, the hood niggas. Or even like, even like when I moved to Austin, Texas, like going to restaurants, restaurants they are like my meals so like i'll go into a restaurant they just throw my whole album on wow going to a bar they're like denny brown oh my god free drinks all night uh that shit never happened with timmy in detroit really and i think i would rather have it that way yeah security wise yes because one you if it's like that for you in detroit you one step from a nigga you got family there and shit too like yeah i have a 21-year-old daughter, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Oh, shit. Yeah. Where does she live? In Detroit. She's still back there. Yeah. That's crazy. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:55 I guess that's something you really got to consider, especially if you're, like, hood famous. Because Detroit never been the—see, that was the whole part. It's not even Detroit. You see what happens in L.A. all the time. Like, people getting— But, see, the thing is, I think detroit is that it's not an entertainment industry there yeah you didn't make it anymore any i mean well now it's the internet you can do whatever you want but back then you had to go to la you had to go to new york no one's you're not about to
Starting point is 00:51:17 get a record deal releasing your music around the city and hanging out you know so it was always about going to the places and me going these other places expanded my mind on what shit was going on yeah you know what i'm saying so when i hang out living in new york for like two three months or live in la for two three then come back to detroit seeing how niggas dress and shit like that the women everything i'm like y'all niggas know what's going on right now especially bigger than the internet this shit is bigger than yes it's bigger than this so i already was thinking you know so i was always like a outsider kind of in that situation when people looked at me like but it was a thing where i would people looked at me that i was cool because you'll see me like
Starting point is 00:51:56 dressing weird or something but just because of my how long i've been doing and everything like damn that shit look fucked up but i know know two years later, I'm going to be wearing it too. So people kind of respected me because that's how it happened. So all like brands and stuff, like I'll be wearing that shit years before. I don't even wear it no more. Then everybody started wearing it. Why fashion? Why do you think you were drawn to that early? My dad, my dad was just super into fashion. I had young parents. That's what made me so ill in high school. Like my dad, all that shit. He's like Versace. I wore a mink coat to school one time. Gator boots up to my knees. So this ill in high school. My dad, all that shit, he's like Versace. I wore a mink coat to school one time. Gator boots up to my knees.
Starting point is 00:52:28 So this was in high school, before you're famous, nothing. Yes, at 15 years old, stole my dad mink coat and gator boots and wore it to school. And didn't talk to anybody. You were a shy kid, right? And was shy. Whoa. Shut down the school. It was definitely the weird school sons.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like, what the fuck is going on with you? One of my teachers passed me because I had a Moboto watch. Can't make this up. Miss McFadden. Where's the confidence come from to do it? Usually at that age, this is, you know, kids are dealing with insecurity. And again. They're trying to fit in.
Starting point is 00:53:03 They want to be one of the group. And you're shy, which usually is insecurity. But then you're so confident in this other stuff. That's fucked up. I never thought about that. This is like a therapy session. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:12 How did that happen? I don't know. I think I was always kind of maybe, maybe, okay, I think it came from the rap. If I started trying to rap at kindergarten, So you already had
Starting point is 00:53:21 I already wanted to make an image, a rapper image. So I'm always thinking I'm being a rapper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me wearing a mink coat in Gators in school was like, nigga, I'm a rapper. And you're qualified because of your skill. So once you're cool, like Tom Brady could dress however he wants because he got seven rings. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 It don't matter. Whatever he wears is what you should wear if you want to win seven rings. So once they know that you're nice at rapping, you already battled everybody, beat everybody, you can come to school in the Gators and the Mink and they're like, eh. I think I was always just trying to be a rapper before I was actually a rapper. But so much of the rapper persona is being outgoing, the way you are now. Yeah. You're a rapper now in the way you act.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Entertainer, at least. Back then, you weren't. What's that? And I was scared to tell people about it, too. Yeah, you would only do it. That makes sense. You would wait for the opportunity. You'd go to new school, wouldn't say shit to anybody.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And then finally, when the opportunity came around, then you would flex on everybody. But maybe you enjoyed that. Maybe you enjoyed being the outcast and then winning people over. Oh, he can't do anything. He dresses weird. He looks weird. And then, boom. I think I just always just held myself up high in that sense and i
Starting point is 00:54:25 always would be embarrassed to be like to try to like you should like me for me i don't have to like show conform to you yeah i'll have to show you some cool shit that i can do to make you like want to fuck with me no you should just like me because i wear a mink coat and gator boots you should like me for me yeah the guy who wears versace yeah like i would wear like Versace to school and shit. Like, I was that kid. And what was actually crazy, too, you know, working in Detroit, you had to be, like, 16. I had my first job at, like, 13.
Starting point is 00:54:56 A lot of my application. Doing what? 16. Dishwashing. Waterworld. Yeah. You were still at Waterworld. I used to work at buffets, working $4.50 an hour.
Starting point is 00:55:07 But no one had jobs at my age. Yeah, so then you had money. So I had money. And I would just get it in all ones. My paycheck would probably be like $200 working 40 hours. But I would just get $100. I'd get a $100 bill, and I would have a whole bunch of ones. And I'd be in school with this bankroll all the time.
Starting point is 00:55:24 That's fine. So you would see. So I always got money on me. Yeah. And it was just a weird thing, man. Okay, you're in Detroit. Eminem starts to explode. Did Detroit give it up for him
Starting point is 00:55:35 or did that come from the outside first? It came from the outside first, definitely. Really? But I would say when Eminem came out, it gave me hope. Explain. Cause I was like, damn, a came out, it gave me hope. Explain. Because I was like, damn, a nigga from Detroit made it. Yeah. I changed my whole rap style after that.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Like, the whole high-pitched, that's come from me hearing Eminem. I'm like, oh, this is about to be a style of Detroit. You know how every city has to have their sound? Yeah. I'm like, he's about to be the spearhead of this shit, so let me convert to this sound. Like, I probably didn't rap like the way I rap now before Eminem came out. Really? And I'm like, oh. And I just studied Eminem, tried to rap. I literally just tried to rap like Eminem.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And what are your thoughts on him? I feel bad about how they try to treat him now. Yeah, it's it. And I feel like this is the most purest of him being in hip hop, to be honest, because he's just being, he's having fun. He don't have no pressure to make hit songs or to be a big rapper. And I feel like before he had all that shit. Now he's obviously just making music to have fun because he wants to do it. Yeah, he got all the money in the world.
Starting point is 00:56:30 And everybody's trying to make him a meme and joke on him and shit. Yeah. That type of shit would make me not want to make music. Right. You know? And the fact that he's still making music and like, fuck everybody. But he probably is not an internet guy like we are, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:44 So you probably don't see none of that shit, but. Yeah. That shit, it kind of hurts my heart, man. Because I'd be like, man, he don't deserve that shit, honey. Did you ever see him around
Starting point is 00:56:51 or meet him? He did. I met him a few times. I played a real bad show one time. I opened for him and I was like, he's opening that
Starting point is 00:57:00 for like a little bit. Oh, really? Yeah. I played, my biggest show I played was opening for him in Wembley, at Wembley Stadium.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Fuck. It was an amazing show, like 100,000 people. But one time, I did too much fucking Adderall. And I just was sad and shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:15 I was just going through a lot of shit. And I had to open for him. And I played a show. I remember, it was me, Runner Jules, Russ, and him.
Starting point is 00:57:22 And I was just playing a show and just the crowd, it was like a... That's a fire show. It was like a whole bunch of white people. They just wasn't fucking with me, really, you know, type of shit.
Starting point is 00:57:31 And I just wanted those songs. I was like, you know what? Fuck this shit. I don't want to do this shit. And I just threw the mic in the crowd, walked off stage, and yeah, I've been fired ever since. You can't explain to Eminem
Starting point is 00:57:42 that you were doing too many drugs and that caused problems? He wouldn't have sympathy for that. But that's the thing. He don't want that shit around him. Oh, because he's trying to stay away from it. Yeah. So me just being even that story.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Call out him now, dog. You're sober. This is the time. Who's sober? No, I don't do pills anymore, though. I don't. That's good. I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:58:00 But I think I told you. Me moving to Austin, Texas, I'm definitely. I mean, of course. I might do something socially, hanging out with people. You know how I know you don't really, you haven't taken Austin as your home? You keep calling it Austin, Texas. That sounds like some shit you're visiting. I'm living in New York, New York, by the way.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I guess you're right. I'm not meaning to do that. But yeah, moving to Austin, Texas. It's just going together. It just goes together. It's so cool. Y'all miss that Detroit water right there? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:30 It's so disgusting. All right, guys. We had to make some big moves real quick. We had to make some big fucking moves. We had to move some pieces right here.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Danny, out for a moment, okay? Akash, out for a moment. This is just a quick moment. Very important that the people discussing this right now care deeply about it, and that is this fight coming up October 22nd. I'm not playing around. We need to have a very serious discussion.
Starting point is 00:58:55 You got Charles Oliveira and Islam, however the fuck you pronounce his last name. Makachev. Makachev. It seems like I'm pronouncing it wrong, but I'm trying. Absolute beast to the both of them. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Okay, Charles Oliveira, if he beats Islam, I think has fought every single person in the top five or ten in the last year. Some crazy stat. Crazy stat. Going up against a religion like that? He's going up against an entire religion. That's crazy. Geez, man. It is that crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:23 So, Charlie Olives, my boy, it is really tough, but the card is crazy. I think Charles Oliveira can do it. I think it's going to be a tough fight. I think that Islam
Starting point is 00:59:32 will mitigate a lot of the stuff that, a lot of the jujitsu that Charles uses, but I still think on the feet, Charles is exceptional. I think he's better. I think they'll neutralize each other on the ground,
Starting point is 00:59:42 but I think on their feet, Charles will be the, will be the choice. Islam is the underdog on the money line. It's really close. Yeah. But they have Oliveira as the favorite. And now Oliveira gets a win back the belt if you do it because they stripped him because he didn't make weight.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah. But the whole card is fucking great. Okay, so they also got Aljamain Sterling, Long Island Zone against TJ Dillashaw. That's a co-main. It's the two of them. Co-main. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Okay. Sterling is the champ, so Dillashaw is going to a co-main. That's the two of them. Co-main. Crazy. Okay. Sterling is the champ, so Dillashaw is going to go after that belt. We'll see what happens. Then our boy Sean O'Malley and Peter Yan. This is an incredible fight. Yeah, this is going to be interesting to see Sean in this environment. This is his biggest test
Starting point is 01:00:17 and arguably the second best fighter in the division. Aljamain Sterling beat him, but Aljamain will probably admit it was an incredibly close fight. Yeah. So, and the way that Aljamain
Starting point is 01:00:29 beat him is not by striking. Peter's a great striker. He's a great fucking boxer, but amazing with distance. But Aljamain beat him with wrestling and jiu-jitsu. He fucking took him down. He did what he did.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Sean O'Malley, we've never seen him have to use wrestling or jiu-jitsu. Yeah. So they're going to be striking. Now Sean has the reach. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:45 and he's a great striker. He's a fantastic fucking striker. Amazing. So it's going to be a, I get excited for those fights because there's two technicians going at it.
Starting point is 01:00:54 So, we'll see what happens. I'm pulling for Sean on that one though. Like, I like Sean so much. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm just like, fuck. And also, if he does win, it's very easy to see Sterling O'Malley, if O'Malley also wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:01:08 So this is a massive step up. It's going to be cool seeing them fight back-to-back. Yeah. You're going to see Sean at his best and then Al Jermaine at his best. How confident are you that he's going to win? You going to put some money on that? Ooh. I am going to put some money on that.
Starting point is 01:01:19 What you going to put up, my boy? 150 bucks. There we go. I don't want to be crazy. I've got to say one more fight. They got, Bilal Muhammad and Sean Brady
Starting point is 01:01:27 are both fighting. I've spoken to both of them on Instagram, so it's very hard for me to say. I know, it's hard. It's very difficult for me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Two fighters are both fans of your stand-up. It's really hard. Like, I would go like, well, which one of you posted to your story when I released it? But both of them did,
Starting point is 01:01:43 so it's very difficult for me to choose in this situation. So may... There's got to be a different criteria. What did they post? Fuck, that's true. I got to look deeply at the posts and see how much support they have for me.
Starting point is 01:01:53 One of them posted it like minute 50. That's different than posting just the title screen. Good point. You know what I mean? I would check the text. Okay, I'm going to look into that and I'm going to take that very seriously. Fellas, best of luck.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Both of you come out unhar going to take that very seriously. Fellas, best of luck. Both of you come out unharmed and ready to fight again. And I'm telling you this right now, I care so much about both of you. I'm putting money on both of you. But then you're definitely going to lose. Don't worry about that. You're definitely going to win. I'm definitely going to win. It's a guaranteed win
Starting point is 01:02:19 and a guaranteed loss. I've got to be an optimist. Did I tell you I actually did this before? Mark, are you sure you want to share it? I really didn't. Okay, what happened? It was the last Izzy fight and I accidentally
Starting point is 01:02:30 put money on like Izzy finishing in the second round and then Izzy finishing in the fourth round or some shit like that. Like, I didn't understand what I was doing.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Oh, like before? Yeah, yeah. I accidentally put money on like, oh, because I thought it was going to be like both. Yeah, yeah. Like it was going to be
Starting point is 01:02:44 like yes and but instead it was either or. And so I was like, oh, because I thought it was going to be like both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it was going to be like yes and, but instead it was either or. And so I was like, oh, he's going to win by knockout or, you know, a chokehold or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then I lost and I won. No, you lost. Don't make my mistake. Even sharing it was another loss. Yeah, no, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I think he's going to knock him out in the second and the fourth. Yeah, I fucked up. I blacked out. I was so excited. I didn't know what I was doing. Don't be like out in the second and the fourth. I fucked up. I blacked out. I was so excited. I didn't know what I was doing. Don't be like me. Don't be like him. But if you are going to bet, bet with betonline.ag.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You know BetOnline, holding us fucking down, holding the special down. And what they're going to do is use the promo code flagrant. They're going to match 50% of your initial deposit bonus up to $1,000. What the fuck does that mean? Because it's complicated as hell. You put in $1,000, they give you $500. Up to $1,000, they're going to give you half of it. So if it's $1,500, gamble with that extra money
Starting point is 01:03:29 and don't do what Mark did. Now, let's bring back our co-hosts and guests. Akash, Danny. Austin, Texas made my career. If it wasn't for Austin, Texas, I wouldn't be the rapper that I am. Why? South by Southwest.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Where I pretty much made my whole name at. Raphael Sadiq. He had to cancel and couldn't make it. And at the time, I'm like the hottest shit at South by Southwest that's not on 84. So they hit me up and I bodied it. Like literally destroyed it. I seen my fucking followers,
Starting point is 01:04:00 all that shit. What did you do? Everything. What is locking in on a rap show? I know we obviously know what it is for stand-up. What is locking in and being like, I bodied that shit. What did you do that was different? What is locking in in a rap show? I know we obviously know what it is for stand-up. What is locking in and being like, I body that shit as a rapper? You've seen everybody
Starting point is 01:04:10 had a good time. Yeah. Yeah, but how are you engaging them? I guess what I'm saying is at this time, I didn't engage shit because my whole shit
Starting point is 01:04:18 was that I knew I kind of had like a funny thing about me. So when I go on stage, I would never talk. I just do the songs, get the fuck on. I don't talk between songs. I do none of that shit. Now I do it because people know me for it. You know what I'm saying? But at that time I was like, you want to interview Danny,
Starting point is 01:04:33 you're going to get that. But rap Danny is serious. No, boom. I go up there, I rap. I'm not doing no jokes. I'm not doing none of that shit. I'm not showing you all my personality. I'm doing these songs. I'm getting the fuck on. Pay me for the personality on the second end. So, yeah. So, I did Fader Fort. Bodied the show. And then, so, obviously, you know, then my career started to do good. Blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So, the next year, coming back to South by Southwest, Fader Fort, I'm the headline in that. I'm going to cover the magazine. All that shit. But this is the crazy part about this story. At the time, 2 Chainz is the hottest nigga in the world. They telling 2 Chainz he got to play before me. And 2 Chainz is looking at me like, are you really about to do this?
Starting point is 01:05:18 But you know me, I'm in my own, I'm feeling myself. I'm like, what the fuck you talking about, nigga? It is what it is. That's how Fader works, man. This hipster shit. This ain't the average rap shit. This ain't BET awards, my nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:29 You get what I'm saying? So, yeah, nigga. They literally were begging me, like, bro, please don't do this. But then it was like one homegirl that was at Fader forever, like, no, let that Detroit nigga do his thing, man. Fuck what they talking about. He on the cover. This is what we've been doing. This is how we're going to do it, man.
Starting point is 01:05:45 So 2 Chainz played before me. But I did it. And I had to go on after this. Damn. Nigga hit me in the head with a lemon. Really? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Yeah. And I'm so drunk on stage, I thought I blocked it. I just saw the lemon coming. I swiped at it. When I was like, yeah, y'all seen that? I hit the lemon. Trying to be cool in front of the crowd, but then we watched the playback.
Starting point is 01:06:14 The nigga beamed at me, bro. Oh, no. Beamed me. You got Kit Cudi, bro. Yeah, yeah, you got Kit. It was Jason that did it, probably. Your arch rival. My whole shit was, who got a lemon in that face?
Starting point is 01:06:29 That is crazy. Did you go to the grocery store and get a lemon? I'm going to figure it out. It was 2 Chainz, bro. There's no bar there. It's not like you can, who had a lemon in that face before? He was waiting for somebody that he didn't like, and you were the last act, and he liked everybody. So he was like, fuck it, I got to do something with a good arm.
Starting point is 01:06:44 This is the funny part. 2 Chainz may be like sitting like over there. He looking at me. Satisfied. And we both, we both lock eyes and this nigga said,
Starting point is 01:06:51 stupid. Damn, that gotta hurt. That hurt. I know that. At the time, I didn't realize what was going on.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I'm feeling myself, bro. I swear to God, I was feeling myself at that time. So I'm like, I'm going on. I'm feeling myself, bro. I swear to God, I was feeling myself at that time. I'm like, I'm that nigga. I'm a fracking nigga. This ain't his world. Yeah. But it was. Oh.
Starting point is 01:07:16 White people love whatever niggas love, man. I thought y'all had a brain for y'allself. It's one of those things. So now podcasting, you think that you will crack the code? Or destroy my life. But now you're good. You're sober. You got a girl.
Starting point is 01:07:38 You're going to get married. You're living in Austin, Texas. I mean, I really feel like I got a second chance with this. To be honest. So I am taking it serious. In Austin, Texas? I mean, I really feel like I got a second chance with this. Yeah. To be honest. And so I am taking it serious, you know? Like, I can honestly say I made a lot of mistakes in my rap career. I think what happened was it took me so long to get on when I was, like, making it at 30, so I was, like, bitter.
Starting point is 01:07:58 So I was never happy about shit, or I could never, like, take it in and, like, accept it for what it was. And I always thought it was fake, kind of this shit going to end in a day anyway. Fuck these motherfuckers. Oh, really? Yeah. So I was bitter. That's the Patrice thing. That's probably why you love Patrice part of it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah. Habitual bridge burner. Yeah. So I think I did. And which I wish I do really feel bad about this. I wish I really took more, took it a little more serious than what I did. But I think that's really what it was. It just was,
Starting point is 01:08:28 and I would feel too old. Like you're hanging around 20 year olds. Yeah. Everybody like, you the old guy in the room. It's like, so it was, yeah. But I wish I would've took it a little more serious.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I will say that. I mean, not saying, my actual music, I took that shit serious to the bone. Yeah, you're talking about the career part of it. But I'm just saying the actual work part, like doing interviews. I was a bad guy. I was a bad guy.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Wait, what do you mean? Like, just, I don't think I was a nice person. Oh, really? You were just, you were angry? You were just... Behind the scenes, like with the camera cut on, I'll be nice to you right now, but outside of it, you're like, nigga, I fucked Danny. Really? Yeah, so I think it was a lot of people that was like,
Starting point is 01:09:05 man, fuck that nigga. Really? But I was going, at the time, I had a huge lean addiction. Ah, what's... I'm addicted to opiates, so when I'm not,
Starting point is 01:09:14 when I'm not at the crib and I'm not drinking lean fucking all day, I'm sick everywhere I go. So if I'm in New York and I got to do fucking interviews all fucking weekend
Starting point is 01:09:22 and I can't find lean, I'm fucking sick. I mean, it's not, it's not nothing to like to blame like an excuse. I'm not using it as an excuse. It's fucked up for me to be like that. Yeah. So I would always just be edgy and just, I was mean to people, man.
Starting point is 01:09:33 I was a real bad guy. What's lean like? It's amazing. Why? Like, give me lean. Explain lean. Oh, man. I need to.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Hit that. Hit that. I mean, it just tastes so good. Yeah. Can you imagine, like, I mean, a dark candy. Like, it just tastes so good. You could just eat candy. Once you get addicted to the taste, it, like, engulfs your life almost.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Like, you can just be anywhere, and next thing you know, you're just tasting it in your mouth. Like, fuck. Wait, really? I mean, just lean. Like, cravings. You know how you get cravings for food? But you got lean cravings all the time if you don't have it. And what is the high?
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh, it's amazing, man. You just, you love life, man. You listen to music and go to sleep. It's just opiate, man. Just gnaw it out, you know? Heroin. Just gnaw it out. I remember one time I listened to a chief keith song 2700 times straight
Starting point is 01:10:27 2700 that's what the play count said that's the actual number i swear to god i can't make this it was 27 something but the actual life that's what i do like this is crazy what song was it bro young rambo my cheese you better know that you better know that word for word My cheeky. So you better know that shit. You better know that shit word for word. But I was nodding off the whole time. Nah, it's in there though. It's in there.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And I wake up, click it again. Like, uh-uh. And go back to sleep on it. How many minutes are in a day? In a song, it's only like two minutes. No, that thing's like two days. Bro. Yeah, because it's days, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:54 I remember buying, I had a Pinaline. I remember getting it. I pulled up, put on cheeky valve on my headphones. And then I remember just, once I finally got out, it was like a piece of boxes everywhere, KFC boxes. Just the whole room was in shambles. And then my lean was gone. And then it was like, then I was just finally like snapped out of it. And I like took a shower and shit.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And I was like, what the fuck just happened? I'm like, it's Sunday? Whoa. This shit was Thursday night. Wow. That's crazy. And I was like, oh, this is bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:27 When do you start reflecting on you having an addictive personality and being self-destructive with that? Oh, I've always known that. So you've known it and you're like, I'm going to submit to this sometimes. I mean, like I said, the best thing for me is just not to have it a part of my life. You know, me being Detroit, bro, would be bad. All bad. I don't want COVID. It was all bad.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Have you tried every drug? Fuck no! I don't do crack. I never did crack. I never did meth. I never did heroin. Everything else is negotiable. You did LSD?
Starting point is 01:12:00 What? I saw my whole world crumble off fucking acid. Man, what do LSD? What? I saw my whole world crumble off fucking acid. Man, what do you mean? I did acid one time. And you know how you see like Roman empires or whatever? It was like castles and shit. Like a whole shit. And everything just started.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Like Game of Thrones type shit. And it was like I was like a king in a castle or some shit. But the whole shit just started crumbling. Like destroying. And then I remember like, you know that big have that big-ass ball in front of Target? I had one of those in the castle. And I remember that's the last thing I saw. It's like smoke.
Starting point is 01:12:31 Everything is destroyed. And that seemed like one big ball pillar just bouncing. Like boom, boom. Then it projected me out. And then I was able to see a whole overview of what the city was. And everything was fucking burning and all fucked up. It was like a dragon. That made me decide
Starting point is 01:12:46 to move to Austin, Texas because it gave me, because I always thought to myself, what did that mean? Does that mean it's over for me in Detroit? It's over for me here. Like, I need to get the fuck out of here, bro. Or you get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:58 I swear to God, that was one of like the biggest. So Acid Trip was like, yeah, I got to get the fuck out of here, man. It's over for me here. Like, it's destroyed. Everything is, you know. Acid seems like it can either really change your life for the better and make you realize things or completely ruin everything for your future.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Like some people have a bad trip and then they're just fucked forever out here. Yeah. Yeah, that's just a little crazy. And then some people are like, no, I changed my whole life. I had a big revelation because of acid. I think it's all about where you're at mentally when you take it and what you're doing it for. It's fun therapy. What you're doing it for.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah. You know? Because some people do it to have fun, but some people are doing it for actually, like, you know, therapy type reason. Like, trying to figure some shit out. So it's all about what you're doing it for, kind of, you know? Like, me, when I was doing the, like, I just, like I said, I did a fucking quarter pound of mushrooms in like a month. And what was my purpose of doing that? It just was, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:51 I just was trying to figure out where my life was at. And you said you saw death. Yeah, I saw my actual grave. And it made me not scared of death anymore. But yeah, you said that earlier. Why are you not scared of death anymore? Because it taught me that that's the graduation of life. When it's time for you to be picked for that shit to happen,
Starting point is 01:14:08 you did what you had to do on this situation. But that don't mean it ends, though. Something about that said it didn't. It made me feel like it didn't end. Why? I don't know. Because that's what you fear about death is the permanence of it. I think I was just scared of death because so many people around me were just dying so young.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I'm a teenager. I love so many friends or like, you know. I just seen a lot of people die young, bro. And so you felt like they didn't accomplish what they needed to accomplish
Starting point is 01:14:30 but then that showed you they've accomplished everything and it's just graduation time. Mm-hmm. So it's like, man, when it's time, when they call you, you did what you had to do.
Starting point is 01:14:39 So you'd be cool if you died today. I don't, I think I did what I had to do. Wow. And where do you think you go after you die? You come back.
Starting point is 01:14:48 What are you, what are you, what are you, how do you come back? I mean, you just, you're a living soul. You know,
Starting point is 01:14:56 your soul never dies, you just physical form dies. Dummy. You're just going to get transformed into another physical. Don't know nothing. Oh, so like full reincarnation.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I mean, I wouldn't say reincarnation. Like, you're going to come back as a frog. Yeah, dummy. Nah, you can come back as that. I think that's death. I think that's the hell. When they talk about, like, hell on earth and shit.
Starting point is 01:15:13 You're like a mosquito. Yeah, when you get reincarnated as a mosquito. You're a lantern fly and some white chick crushes you. The whole religion is hell. Yeah, bro. What does that mean? You know other religions have hell also,
Starting point is 01:15:27 you know that? Yeah, yeah, but like, in Danny Brown's world, your religion is hell. Reincarnation is hell. No. He said if you come back
Starting point is 01:15:34 as a frog or a spotted lantern fly, that's hell. That happens in your religion. That's hell. But hell also happens in other religions. That would be your punishment.
Starting point is 01:15:42 No, not in this. I look at it as that would be your punishment for not doing what you're supposed to do on this physical plane. So if you come back as a frog or something fucked up, he's showing you like, this shit ain't cool. But if you live a good life, you come back as another person. Yeah. Do you think that... In a better form of yourself.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Like an upgrade. It's like a software upgrade. Oh, that's crazy. So if you were to die... You're so Hindu, dude. I don't even know. You're so Hindu.
Starting point is 01:16:08 If you were to die today, what do you... I think all the drugs he had to do just to be Hindu. Yeah. It's crazy. What are you coming back as
Starting point is 01:16:14 if you were to die today? A bitch. A bad bitch, though? Yeah, I'm going to be a bad bitch, though. All right, good.
Starting point is 01:16:22 And I'm going to be... My boyfriend is going to be a cartel member. That dissolves bodies and acid. Yo, that's fire. That's fire, bro. But I'm going to keep them straight.
Starting point is 01:16:33 I'm going to be the one that level them out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To make them not be a full psycho that killed villagers and shit. Dude, you can fix them. Yeah, I'm going to be the one that fix them. Yeah. So you're basically going to come back as your girl.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yeah, yeah. That's hell, but you got to deal with you. God ain't going to let me come back as a nigga, man. I abuse my privileges. You want pussy so bad here. I really feel like he ain't going to let me come back as a nigga, man. He gonna be like, nah, this nigga gotta feel it.
Starting point is 01:17:06 He gotta know what the other side feels like. Yeah. He's gonna start fisting himself. Let me see what this shit is all about. I'm coming back as a puppet.
Starting point is 01:17:16 So then I have more empathy. Yeah. There you go. So what type of dudes would you fuck? I told you. No, but like. Cartel members.
Starting point is 01:17:26 That's your man, bro. That's your man, bro. He's attracting the power. Yeah, he's going to be a ho. You want powerful ass dudes, though. Yeah, it's going to be. I want a murderer. That's good.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I want a nigga that I know going to kill a nigga. Yeah, going to kill that pussy. I want to feel secure. This nigga got guns everywhere. I'm one of them type of bitches, man. Like, this nigga got guns. He dangerous. He's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Oh, my God. I swear, I can't make this up. No, I believe you. No, I don't think you're making it up. I don't think any of us thought you were making this up to look cool. I can't date that dude. He's a square. No, no, yeah. Ain't no square niggas in my life. That shit too boring
Starting point is 01:18:09 being with a regular nigga. What this nigga gonna do, man? Come back watching sports and shit. I'm that guy. I'm very boring. But me too, though. I don't know. No, no, no, no. I don't buy that you're boring.
Starting point is 01:18:24 It comes in increments. I literally sit around and play video games all day. When you're not addicted to drugs. Yeah. I'm not addicted to drugs. What are you talking about? I do drugs. That's a bar, bro.
Starting point is 01:18:38 That is a bar right there. When I'm at home, I'm not doing... When I'm at home with my girl... You said you were addicted to lean is what I'm referring to. Oh, that was years ago, though. Now, it's too expensive. In this economy? Lean in this economy.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Are you crazy? There's not much lean cost. It's a recession. Inflation. Lean is the most expensive drug to do. Anybody that's doing lean, they're just doing it as a stunt. Because it's not even worth the money you're paying for it. And the lean that I did, it got discontinued
Starting point is 01:19:05 because Justin Bieber asked. Oh, really? What happened? Yeah, activists. Wait, what? Well, this is the story. I don't know if this is real, but they're saying. That's a great way to start a story.
Starting point is 01:19:15 But they're saying Justin Bieber overdosed on lien. Oh, activists, damn near died type shit. Oh, activists is the name of the lien. That was the name of the brand. It's still a drug company. They make other shit. They just don't make lien no more. Yeah, lean. That was the name of the brand. It's still a drug company. They make other shit. They just don't make lean no more. It was the best tasting shit
Starting point is 01:19:28 ever. Really? I used to just... The thing about lean is you got to drink a lot of soda. I'd be at the grocery market looking at all the rarest... Drinking a two liter a day. Bad shit. So what happened was Activist didn't want that on their name. You think that's what the lean
Starting point is 01:19:44 gut is? Yeah. It's what the lean gut is? Yeah. It's not the lean. Bro, my stomach was so big. Oh, sugar. And it makes you constipated. So it's mad turds. I think it's just mad turds sitting
Starting point is 01:19:54 in your stomach. It's just backed up. Mad turds. Mad turds sitting in your stomach, man. So yeah, I think they say overdose on activists
Starting point is 01:20:04 and they didn't want that blood on their name. So they could definitely do not. So yeah, I think they say overdose on activists and they didn't want that blood on their name. Yeah. Definitely do not. So now, if you buy lean, now that lean literally tastes like candy.
Starting point is 01:20:12 You didn't taste no medicine aftertaste. So if you drink lean, now it has a medicine aftertaste. It doesn't taste good. But now these kids say that's what they want.
Starting point is 01:20:20 How much is like a bottle of lean now? Oh, I think it's $5, $500 a line. What's a line mean? An ounce. So like.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Damn. You know. So to buy a pint, I think it's 16 ounces in a pint. So it's $8,000 for a pint of lean. Damn. Like I've drunk all the other leans. The Morton Grove, the fucking whatever. But you like the activists.
Starting point is 01:20:43 That's your type. I was really addicted to the activists. Yeah. Would you say that's like the white women of lean? Nigga, that's the mamacita. Telemundo. That's the bad bitch from Telemundo. These niggas drinking the white bitch now.
Starting point is 01:21:03 That was the Telemundo. Guys, this is Danny Brown. Danny, where can they get your podcasts? Wildmate, YouTube, Danny Brown Show, XX, I mean, X Danny, X Brown, X all my social medias or whatever you can find me at. Hilarious show. There's a great episode with you and David Lucas.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Shout out to David Lucas. David Lucas is great. Hilarious comedian. Yeah, I'm having one once a month at least. I mean, you guys got great chemistry, man. Make sure you check out Danny Brown's show. Absolutely hilarious. YMH Studios YouTube.
Starting point is 01:21:34 And, yo, thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you guys for having me, man. I really appreciate you, my man.

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