Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - DJ Akademiks: Drake Lost, here’s why & Brady Roast Untold Stories

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

YERRRR Schulz recaps his crazy weekend with back-to-back sold out MSG shows, the real behind-the-scenes of the Tom Brady roast, & then BIG AK comes on to breakdown the RAP BEEF 00:00 Intro 00:32 Roasting Tom Brady + Gronk is PHENOMENAL 3:26 Kevin Hart is a beast + Andrew’s performance 5:30 Nikki & Tony were the best + the players taking it seriously 7:40 Did J Lo break Ben Affleck? 8:40 Kim K isn’t really present at all 11:35 Tom Brady really checked Jeff Ross for “Happy Ending” 15:01 Best roast joke against Andrew Schulz 19:00 Woke comedy is officially dead 22:00 What’s Tom Brady like + Drew Bledsoe is a G 24:15 Dana White running jokes by Andrew + Edelman crushed it 25:53 Andrew selling out MSG TWICE + 50 Cent/G-Unit turning up 27:30 Mark’s never been Whiter + studying 50 Cent music 31:00 50 Cent really is that guy + delivering a great show 35:00 Trying not to cry + soaking in MSG 37:27 So many things had to align for 2nd show to happen 42:53 Mark and Deric killed it too + shoutout the team 43:54 Akademiks joins the show + MSG reflection 46:40 Drake gave Ak the heads-up + Push Ups leaked on Ak’s Reddit 50:45 Drake mentioning Ak + didn’t think Kendrick would drop 54:17 Ak’s streams is central to everything, Kat William’s fault 56:30 Kendrick only dropped when Ak was live + streaming numbers 1:04:26 How does Ak maintain credibility? 1:06:50 Drake grooming allegations will change everything 1:11:40 Montages can look crazy + Shane Gillis predicted this 1:15:29 Drake has to stay current + lifestyle working against Drake in this battle 1:23:00 Drake v Kendrick popularity 1:37:20 Both sides are lying + can’t play with people’s family 1:43:00 Kendrick versatility is insane + where did this start? 1:46:17 Racial component, no-one’s changing their opinions + playing Chess against a master 1:54:16 Did Drake feed the daughter information? 1:56:40 Everyone’s smashing the same girls + Future v Drake beef 1:59:41 Rick Ross is truly funny 2:00:57 Drake’s next move + no-one’s speaking up for Drake 2:07:15 Drake isn’t untouchable + industry “friends” 2:11:20 Why is the Industry so against Drake? 2:14:25 Rumours of using view bots & likes etc 2:16:25 If “Meet the Grahams” were true = would be the greatest KO

Drake says to me, Yo, you got 30 minutes. Get on straight. Let's say all allegations are false on both sides. Who's winning this battle? It's still Kendall. No. What is the next move for Drake?

It's someone's way out of this. Did Drake feed him that information about the daughter? The objective, Ag. I do believe the daughter thing. I don't believe the other thing. I found out that Metro Boomin hated Drake before it was like universally known. Because a chick he smashed in LA, I smashed in LA. They always just tell every detail.

But I will tell you this. When this whole thing pops off, The Weeknd hits me up. And he says. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant. First of all, I just want to thank you guys so much. Everybody who came out to MSG. And yeah, that was crazy.

Crazy dreams come true. Pretty wild. Yeah, we'll definitely talk about that later. Also, thank you everybody who watched the roast. That was a really crazy experience. And I mean this in like a non-joking way at all. But Gronk is one of the, like whatever you think he is, he will exceed that in a shocking way. Like, this is my first interaction with Gronk.

You ready? Yeah. He's standing by a bathroom. Yeah. I walk up. It's Gronk, Burt, Tom. Okay? I walk up.

We're talking. And I go, I don't even know why Tom Brady is doing this. Tom Segura. Yeah. I don't know why Tom Brady is doing this. And Gronk goes, oh man, you know,

sometimes you just get bored. You know? Like sometimes you're just, you know, you're sitting in your apartment, you're in your apartment for eight days, you're not doing anything.

You just want to fucking kill yourself. This is before the roast has even started. We're in the hallway. I just put my hand on his shoulder. I go,

I can't do this right now. I'm not walking you off this fucking bridge.'re gonna lock it and be funny i gotta call you a retard in 30 minutes or three hours in 30 minutes he probably loved the roast being called a retard because he felt something that shit was getting to him did you think yes he was like in the beginning he was like okay first couple people shot at me

and then eventually he's like why do they keep making the same jokes about me like I don't think there are so many things like behind the scenes

that I want to like tell you guys about like first of all you know when Gronk spiked the shot glass yeah that had to hit someone real shot glass

yeah he was not supposed to do this this is right before I go up he spiked it, but he's one of those where like, the closest thing I can say is there is a video of a kid with Down syndrome that is dressed up as Stone Cold Steve Austin

and he walks up to his pool and he takes the Bud Lights, he smashes them together and he starts to drink at them as the Bud Lights have already been leaked because the glass is broke, right? That was punk. He took the shot.

He wasn't even included in it. The shot was about Tom Brady, Belichick, and Bob Kraft. He's just there. He takes it. And he has so much energy, he doesn't know what to do. He slams it. All of us are like, what the fuck just happened? A girl in the front row has like a piece of shot glass

like hanging out of her chest. And I'm not talking about a little thing flicker. Oh my God. Her whole cheek is red. Oh, fuck. She looks like a mime. I have to go up afterwards. So I'm just like, all right, what's the witty joke?

Like, I'm like, how am I going to, it's not the first time Gronk spiked a drink. You know, I'm like thinking like, what can I acknowledge the moment? And shout out to Kevin Hart, bro. Yeah. gronk spike the drink you know i'm like thinking like what can i acknowledge the moment and shout out to kevin hart bro yeah this guy is like good son don't you first of all he's amazing but like what he did yeah like hosts will do this in a comedy show like if something crazy happens they'll reset the room yeah bring it bring the energy back down and you bring it back up yeah he took he he took time yeah he calmed the room back down didn't even joke around about just comes like what is going on here these guys are kind of crazy

reset the whole room and even acknowledge it so i didn't even have to and i walked up to him after i was like dude you saved my ass man thank you so much for that did you even know what you were doing he was like yeah of course man i don't want you to have to go up after that like solid guy far did not have to do that i'm the last comic on a fucking three hour show i peed three times he didn't get to pee once like yeah within 30 minutes of being up there i was like i ain't making you had that akash sing i was thinking about you the whole time the second he brought that tv screen out for burton tom yeah i saw a couple of football players leave and I was like, I'm out of this place. No disrespect, Bernard Tom, but I got a fucking pick. Left,

apparently there's a shot of me walking back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the best point. That's the best point. I pulled the clock. I was like, fuck, isn't this in? Directly in front of the camera. Yeah.

You did great. great oh thank you you did fucking great jokes were fire unreal i love the moments where you stepped out of the joke because i know that probably the instinct i assume is just do the jokes and you're so fucking nervous that's all you do but when you were like jeff there's no kids back there that was great and then the cab shit, cab with puff, cab, that's your boy. Fire! That's fun.

It's funny you say that because that was the thing that I found most tricky about this, which is like, how do you, it's not even stay in the moment, but like be in the moment from the beginning. Yeah.

And I was like, okay, do I not like, I want to just go, hey, we're in the moment here yeah and then do the set instead of being like here are the jokes but at the same time we're also like three hours into this to a live telecast yeah so it's like okay what what can i do but yeah those those moments are good fucking shout out nikki glazer absolutely demolished i was like blown away yeah she was so fucking good

the pacing, the rhythm was like perfect Tony, holy fuck amazing they were just so fucking good if you haven't seen it yet it is worth it to watch them they were just masterful it was great

so here's the thing what makes or breaks a roast is not the comedians. The non-comedians? If the non-comedians deliver, it's a good roast. Oh, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. Non-comedian, Edelman. Oh, yeah. Holy shit.

So here's the thing. They took it serious. Edelman was working it out at the comedy store. Really? Like, Drew Bledsoe hit me up afterwards. He's like, dude, we were watching a lot of your stuff and some other guys. Like, they were actually studying. Like game film.

All that. Awesome. But I think that's what happens when you get athletes. They're like, oh, the way to be good at something is to repeat it over and over again and watch people that are good at it. Practice and prepare, and they can be good. And after watching Gronk, I believe he never watched game film. Let me tell you. I believe that about him.

His joke where he's like, oh, Gronk, touchdown. Oh, Gronk, why don't never watched game film. Let me tell you. I believe that about him. His joke where he's like, oh, Gronk, touchdown. Oh, Gronk, why don't you touchdown? That was personal. That was Dot and Lamar. I mean, Dot and Drake. Fuck y'all. When he went off script, I wrote that one. I just wrote that one.

Can I tell you something? That's in the prompter. Yes, I know. Can I tell you something? That's in the prompter. Yes, I know! Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm reading the prompter,

and the prompter is written in retard, right? It's like, at one point, that one was creative. See, I'm creative. No way. The one thing that he did, or a few things he ad-libbed, one is when he's like, Kevin, I'll make you suck my dick! And all of us were like, okay, he's gone.

He's fucking gone. He got excited by the crowd and he's out of here. Oh, dude. Oh, it's probably great sitting next to Burt there. I don't remember who was in the other show.

Was Nicky on the other side? No, Sam. Sam Jay, yeah, yeah. So you had homies on both sides. Sam was great. Three hours. Sam did fucking great. I was impressed.

Yeah, it's fun when it was definitely fun when Ben Affleck was on and we were like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck are you doing, dude? Dude. J-Lo broke this man. Son, son, son, son. What the fuck is wrong with Ben Affleck? He comes up and everybody's stoked, right?

So hype. Because we all love Ben Affleck. Ben Affleck's the man. And then he started talking. He was defendingck's the man. Yeah. And then he started talking. He was defending Tom from internet trolls. And a few minutes in, I'm like, oh, he ain't even talking about Tom. No, no, he's not. He's not.

He's talking about Ben Affleck. He's talking about Batman versus Superman. Yeah. He's talking about. It was personal. Yeah, but once you saw it, you're like, is this whole thing a proxy for him to just yell at people online? I don't even know if he realizes it, but yes. That's the other thing.

He might not. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. Kim Kardashian was... She's a pro. I'll be honest.

Son. She's a pro. No, she is a pro. Definitely. We have proof. We have video proof yeah nah

what I would say about Kim is that um she's she's striking she's like perfectly symmetrical like you look at her

and you're like oh wow but I've never seen somebody be so disassociated in my life hmm she

if somebody told me, hey, it's not really Kim Kardashian. She has this like a robot where she can essentially control like what it says, but it's not like, there's no human aspect to it. I'd be like, oh, oh, I get it now. She's a Manchurian candidate.

No, she sat with perfect posture for three hours straight, right? Smiled, laughed. I've never seen anything like that in my life. I just completely detached. She grew up with a camera on her 24-7 for the past 15 years. But some people do that and they go crazy and they're a child star. Dissociated.

Dealing with whatever trauma. OJ was in her fucking room before the Bronco chase like ready to kill himself like that's probably to give her some sympathy that's probably came out to look at OJ

and be like hey OJ I can't do this yeah again I don't know I'm sure she's nice

and all the other things the only thing it just looked completely unaffected yeah and even when she was up there they were kind of

booing her like it didn't make her smile it didn't make her sad it was nothing yeah there was one guy

in the crowd this is kind of really funny like cause the crowd was like basically a Buffalo Bills like tailgate like the beginning

was like the Hollywood people and then the stands were like football fans. It was kind of nice. Thank God LA could do that. I think people flew in. Or they're like Boston Ties. Kim's up, she's doing her set. She's almost at the end of the set.

And then this guy just in the stands out of nowhere just goes, Bitch! just in the stands out of nowhere just goes bitch I was talking to it was Gronk's uncle I was talking to McKeever and Shane and McKeever was like

it was as if he'd been holding it in for a whole minute and he just couldn't hold it anymore his fists were bald bitch just seeing Kim Kardashian on stage for three minutes was too much hold it anymore. Like, his fists were bald. Bitch! Just seeing Kim Kardashian on stage for three minutes

was too much. That was awesome. That was a Kanye fan. Yeah, it might have been. Nah, it was cool. But what a crazy thing.

Like, how often does Kim talk in front of, like, thousands and thousands of just, like, regular human beings?

Nah, as well. Like, you know what I mean? Like, her whole life is so, like, protected and manicured. Maybe that's why she's dissociated. It was, like, overwhelming. It might No, as well. Like, you know what I mean? Like her whole life is so like protected and maybe I feel like you're dissociated.

It was like overwhelming. It might be like, oh yeah. Like you said, like a coping mechanism for it. Yeah. Um, I'm trying to think of anything else I saw. Oh, the fire thing was, uh, when Tom checked Jeff Ross. Bro. I think that was 100% real.

Oh yeah. Oh really? 100%. Like, so Jeff, so. I think it got cut from the broadcast. I'll tell you also, the reason why I think it got cut from the broadcast I'll tell y'all something the reason why I think it's real

is because they told us no jokes about happy endings with Bob Craft because I had a Bob Craft tag oh I had that joke

about Randy Moss I was like Randy Moss you made sure on Super Bowl Sunday is the only people celebrating a happy ending with a priest

oh yeah yeah and then the tag was and of course Bob Craft yeah and they were like Tom asked us not to do anything with the massage shit but I was like alright cool like the guys coming here for this thing

like whatever he's not getting roasted he's sitting in the fucking stands like that and then Jeff did it and then Tom walks up and he goes yo cut that shit out or don't do that again but think about it like this is the first comic

that goes on a live roast and it's your night yeah he was ready to shut the whole thing down that's an alpha ass move right there

yeah like for for this guy who basically let him go yeah Bob Craft didn't re-sign him yeah

and he still feels that kind of loyalty and Brady would sign team friendly deals relatively speaking who basically let him go. Yeah. Bob Kraft didn't re-sign him. Yeah. And he still feels that kind of loyalty. And Brady would sign team-friendly deals, relatively speaking. Yeah. So it's not like Kraft overpaid him.

Like, when they paid Kobe $25 million his last year or whatever, and he was kind of washed, was like, thank you. Yeah. Brady got let go. He got the opposite.

He was like, all right, good luck. Yeah. And still had that kind of loyalty. He's crazy. I thought it was an alpha most people get caught up in that moment and go I don't want to ruin

and he's like this shit don't matter what matters is I said to that guy that those jokes weren't going to be made and he agreed to come and then you broke the rule I think it was that and then Brady's kids and it was just like who's going to fuck Brady's psycho

Brady's psycho he's a psycho Brady's a psycho he's a psycho he's the greatest he's also like breathtaking oh yeah it was like hard to look at like a psychopath

I would like roast him and I'd find myself going I'd have to like look back at the cameras too much oh man I also wonder if he does that early if he's like okay the first thing that crosses the line

I'm gonna get up there and make like a little moment to let everyone else know like when you fire a guy the first day on set who is it? Orson Welles would do that? He'd hire a guy just to fire him the first day? Yeah that's great You like set a tone and let everyone know like yo don't fuck around so he's like the first thing that crosses my line

I'm gonna stand up and stop it and that way everyone else knows like yo don't talk about the kids don't talk about Bobby Kraft I wonder if then stand up and stop it. And that way everyone else knows, like, yo, don't talk about the kids. Don't talk about Bobby Kraft. I wonder if then maybe him and Jeff had that worked out then. No, I don't think so. I think he just was like the first thing that crossed my mind. If they talk about these two or whatever number of things in his head. That would make a lot of sense.

I'm nipping it. Yeah. That's what I'm assuming. It makes sense. I was wondering why no one made the kissing his kid joke. Yeah. That would have been. I mean, it would have gone.

But at the same time, it's like the way I look at these things is Giselle's a kid joke. Yeah. That would have been. I mean, it would have gone, but at the same time, it's like, the way I look at these things is Giselle's a public figure. Yeah. Outside of him. Yeah. So yeah,

we could talk about that. Yeah. If it's not someone who's public and it's like family or like children. Yeah. Then I'm like,

I don't want to fuck it. Yeah. Giselle's a supermodel. She's used to scrutiny. And that was kind of our line of thinking with the Will and Jada thing it's like Jada's a celebrity

who's been a celebrity for 10 years she's asking for attention she has this show out like she talks about her business so she wants that spoken about as well yeah

but yeah any other any other any other reactions I want to fucking talk about MSG dude oh I have a question yes

what was the best joke you thought against you oh that's good. There weren't a ton, I'll be honest. To be honest, I think what everybody thought was, oh, everybody's going to make fun of his haircut. So I don't want to do what everybody does.

So to give you guys some behind-the-scenes shit, it's like everybody's making fun of the same people, so the jokes kind of get used up quick yeah right and so you got to kind of like worry like uh-oh can i do this is this gonna happen the later and later you go on the roast the more and more jokes and topics get crossed off even if it's not the same joke if it's about the same thing yeah it gets a little diluted yeah so like there was jokes that like so we were working with uh one of the producers there

right who was helping us and basically he wouldn't tell us he'd be like hey listen this thing is probably i showed him my jokes and he was like this thing's probably gonna be kind of touched on so maybe you want to cut it or that's awesome they do that yeah yeah yeah michael lawrence oh he's a genius writer and he wrote for a lot of the athletes and stuff like that. And he was like, okay, this one is like, we had a good one. It was like, you know, I said something about Giselle, and I was like, Tom, my wife leaving is never something to joke about, but let's take a stab at it. That was the last text Tom got from OJ.

But the OJ. Right? And like, but the OJ stuff had been done a little bit. Yeah, yeah. So, especially going later in the show, you're like,

okay, how can I have a unique angle? Right. But, yeah, so these producers are organizing all that. It's quite impressive, actually. Do you know what I mean?

Like, you have to make sure how many different people on that fucking roast. 15 different people who are all talking about the same topics. Also, guys, the dates are real quick.

First of all, big announcement. I'm going to be in Abu Dhabi during Abu Dhabi Comedy Week, May 26th at the Sadyat Rotana Resort and Vias in Abu Dhabi. I don't know if I said that correctly,

but I will be there. Also, May 31st and June 1st, St. Louis. June 7th and 8th, Indianapolis. June 21st and 22nd, Raleigh, North Carolina. June 28th and 29th, Buffalo. July 26th and 27th, Jacksonville. September 6th and 7th, Vegas. September 12th and 13th and 14th, Miami, Florida.

Guys, get your tickets for those shows and more at akashsingh.com. We're going to keep adding. We are not fucking stopping, guys. We're going to keep adding. We are not fucking stopping, guys. We're going to keep going. I'll see you out there. Akashsingh.com. The roast was phenomenal. It was really fantastic.

Live was crazy, man. Flubbing Award is like, fuck. The whole joke is done. That shit was fun. When was the last great roast? It was like Comedy Central days, back in the day? Yeah. We loved the Charlie Sheen one because of Patrice. Oh, yeah.

That was 12, 13 years ago? Bieber one was good. Yeah, like the Trump one. There was a run of really great ones that Comedy Central did. Yeah, it was really fucking good. I feel like Kev tried to come at you at the end, and he didn't really have nothing, bro. He didn't really have nothing. I'm not saying he bombed, but end. And he didn't really have nothing, bro. He didn't really have nothing.

I'm not saying he bombed, but, I mean, he didn't really have nothing. It is funny because you can see the prompters, too. Yeah. So you can see the jokes that, oh, you see what I'm talking about. He had those written. Me and Sam fucked up somebody's joke because I saw a punchline. And me and Sam started going, oh, that shit's good. And he hadn't even said it yet.

Yeah. I forget who it was, but Sam and I were oh, that shit's good. And he hadn't even said it yet. Yeah, yeah. I forget who it was, but Sam and I were laughing at this shit because we were reading the head. Bro, there's a part that's so funny. Tony's doing a joke and you just see Bert behind him mouthing the words to the joke as he's saying it. No way. I was dying laughing.

I was like, oh, I forget there's a prompt. That was Gronk the entire time. No, he didn't mouth it. He's reading in his head, but mouthing the words. That's awesome. I would do the same thing a million percent. I just like to be ahead. I'm like, ooh.

Yeah, it was really good. And I think that the kind of way I've analyzed it is like, I think a year ago, maybe even more, the idea of, what is it, cancel culture, woke culture is affecting comedy. That's done. If you're still talking about that now, you're just fucking drifting on it.

Maybe not with everybody. Ten minutes in, I'm watching with my shorty, she's really enjoying it and then she's like, they're being kind of mean. I'm not even making a joke. I really feel bad for Gronk, she felt so bad for me. I'm not even making a joke I really feel bad for Grock she felt so bad for him I'm not even making a joke culturally

she's not she didn't know what a roast is yeah yeah if you know what a roast is if you have any idea in comedy what a roast is you get it

this is all bets are off my wife probably would have said the same thing if she'd watched that early she'd been like but she's enough you know what I mean

she gets it yeah you know how like she was ready to check she was like this is too much yeah it's too much you know this is like it it yeah yeah you know how like she was ready to check out she was like this is too yes too much you're not this is like uh it's weirdly might have happened the same venue but you're not like when magic johnson said he had aids everybody was like oh this shit real yeah i think it happened it was announced at the forum okay i think this will be

like the defining point in our generation where people go, oh, the woke shit's dead. And it's already been dead. Tony, I mean, Tony said the F-bomb live on Netflix. No tweets. The point I'm trying to make is it's already been dead.

Yeah. But this was a moment where you had people that had everything to lose, i.e. Tom Brady, a guy who could be worth a billion dollars. He has these mainstream connections. He's everything to lose, i.e. a Tom Brady, a guy who could be worth a billion dollars. He has these mainstream connections.

He's going to be on Fox hosting the show. And he's making gay jokes and people are making gay jokes about him, racist, homophobic jokes. But nobody really seemed to go, oh my God. And to me, that's like the pendulum swinging. And this is like the cultural point.

It already has happened. We've noticed it. It's like you roll your eyes when anybody says woke anymore. But this is like I think the moment America realizes. So we'll see what happens after this. I'm very curious. Maybe that's why there was no good roast for seven, eight years. Whether they could have been

whether it would have gone well or not, I bet suits were like, we can't take this risk. You're 100% right. That's from the people I spoke to. They're like, yeah, everybody's afraid to do it because the jokes that are funny, they don't want to say. It's not the comics that are afraid. It's the celebrities. And the execs were like, oh, I don't know.

This could get us in trouble. Wow. We could lose sponsors. Yeah. That's a great point. Tom admitting to a Deflategate? Oh, shit. Someone might put a little asterisk on his little record.

Give me 20 million, I would have admitted it. Now, his set was good. Yeah. That Kanye-Kim joke is great. Great. I wish I knew Kim was there. I had no clue. Yeah.

When I did the rehearsal, I saw a chair that said Kim Kardashian. And I was like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. And I wonder if the production was saving that for tom to make that joke maybe you know what i mean like because poor tom got to go up at the end yeah yeah yeah you know so like what does he have left yeah you know i'm sick champion just cool all around absolute and then you talked to tom yeah yeah i got to talk to tom a little bit. How long was the conversation?

Tell me everything he said. What did he smell like? Yeah, what did he smell like? What did his hands feel like? Just a nice dude. Like, you know, I just asked him, one, how he prepared. I was like, were you, like, working it out? He was like, I would do it in front of the guys.

Yeah. So I imagine the guys are like, you know, maybe the players are like his team. Yeah. But he looked like he had done the jokes before. Yeah, yeah. You know? But, yeah, that that was about it nothing crazy with tom through bled so it's a fucking g yeah he seems like fun yeah like him and his brothers are fun they hit the comedy store afterwards oh really they were there yeah they're just judging roast

battle or something like that like awesome they were were just, he texted me, he just goes, comedy store, pull up. What the fuck is this guy? As if you've never heard of that guy. That's the address, bro. That's awesome. Yeah, they were good. I mean, just getting to meet these guys, Charles Woodson, just getting to meet these guys.

Yeah, that's sick. You also meet some of these football players that you've seen in pads, and they're tall, but like a Charles Woodson, the guys that he would have to tackle. Yeah. And then you see him, and you're like, he's not the most physical. Also, post-career, these guys deflate like crazy. Well, no, I did it once.

Gronk is much skinnier. But corner safeties, dude, I did a podcast with an old cowboy legend, Darren Woodson, who was a safety. And he would lay the wood on people. He was a crazy. And he would lay the wood on people. He was a crazy, crazy physical player. And then you see him and you're like, oh, he's a little bigger than, maybe about Alex's size. Maybe a little taller because you know most people are.

But, you know. Don't you have more respect for him? Yeah. Dude, absolutely. This guy's barely taller than Alex. We did the roast of Alex. You wanted to meet him. Anyway, so that was really cool.

It was really cool to be a part of. So that's awesome. And it felt like an event in terms of social media. Yeah. Do you know what I'm talking about? Remember Twitter back in the day when something would happen and everybody was kind of talking about the same thing it had that benefit alive live yeah yeah yeah everyone

experienced something all at the same time and they're all talking about it tweeting about it like dude it's funny so before the um before the show uh uh uh rogan texted me he's like yo can i give dana white your number i'm like yeah yeah, sure. And Dana hits me up. He's like, hey, man, can I just run this by you? Because I just need you to know what you think. And he runs a couple jokes by me. And they're funny. Like the thing about Tom, like, you know, you've been in Boston,

so I used to think you were from there. Then I saw you run. I was like, no, he's definitely from San Francisco. That's a really good. A few jokes, but the one about the trans, my name is Dana. It's not trans enough for you liberal fucks? He says it to me and I'm like, I don't know if that's going to go over. I call him back.

I go, bro, I don't know if that one's going to really hit. I don't know if that's going to be the one. And he goes, like, what do you think? And I'm like, I just don't know if it's going to get the big laughs. And then he goes, oh, I don't care about that. I just want them to know I don't give a fuck. That's awesome. Awesome.

That keeps it perfect. Awesome. Awesome. Oh, it's going to accomplish that. And his was actually good. He killed it. He did great. Afterwards, he comes up to you and says, I'm never doing that again.

But I thought he fucking rocked it. Yeah, I think he was doubting himself. Because a couple times he's like, oh, no, no. Yeah, I don't doing that again. But I thought he fucking rocked it. Yeah, I think he was doubting himself because a couple times he was like, oh, no, no, I don't like that or whatever. Nah, he delivered.

It was solid. Yeah, it was a great, dude, again, the non-athletes delivered. They fucking, oh, fuck that. The non-comedians delivered and like,

dude, Edelman, I was blown away for a wide receiver football player to make, whoever wrote those jokes and for him to be like let's go

and whatever input he had on them fucking crushed it yeah crushed it nah he murdered he murdered yeah

anyway okay so yeah can we give you some love finally yes okay sure sure sure sure Andrew Schultz

Madison Square Garden two fucking shows back to back comedy complete fucking dreams achievable that's it yeah that was great you're

done that was crazy i'm done i literally i can retire yeah and i feel like i achieved everything i ever wanted to yeah say whatever you want to say then i'm going to compliment you you're going to get uncomfortable and we'll power through that but you say what you want to say first okay the the most difficult part of the whole thing was trying to not mouth the n-word when 50 cent was the only thing that was going through my mind. 50's on, first of all, I didn't even know about G-Unit showing up. So they tell us that like maybe an hour before.

They're like, we need three mics. And I go, what? And then they're like, yeah, yeah, yo, Uncle Murdoch. I'm like, okay, this is going to be crazy. So they're on stage, they're rapping. I'm like, do not say the N-word. I also, I hope we have video. I have 13,000 eyeballs on me. They're rapping. I'm like, do not say the N-word. I also, I hope we have video. What do you mean?

I have 13,000 eyeballs on me. There's fucking cameras everywhere. I know Shifty zoomed in on my lips because he didn't wait for me to drop it. So I'm concentrating on not saying the N-word. Tony Ayo's at the front of the stage, comes back, right? I hope we have video for this

because there is an ultimate, I missed a dap. And by missed, I mean, he didn't even acknowledge my dap I threw the hand up like this I think he looked at me and just went the other way and I was like hey

it was fast I was focusing too much on not saying the n-word I almost said it right then no I think we need to delete all the footage because if you I'm unfortunately standing directly behind And I'm just in a daze I'm like, holy was like, what is, how do you dance? Wipe this on fast. Yeah.

I was in this dance. Don't blame it. Don't blame it on the blackout. You know, that's when you're just supposed to feel the rhythm. I was feeling it for the first two songs. I was like, wait a second.

I feel like an idiot. And then I was looking at 50. I was like, yo, I. I feel like an idiot. And then I was looking at 50. I was like, yo, I'm just going to do a 50 cent does because he's cool. And if I just copy him, then no one can say anything. Okay. And so 50 was doing this move where he's standing there. He goes like this and he's got his hips going. And so I was like, oh, that's easy to do.

I'll do that. And so you just saw me do it. And I was doing the exact same thing. And if you look at 50 doing it, he looks so cool. And then if you cut him over to me i look because derek and i were really into it and mark was just alone he didn't know how to be too into it but he is dead center oh my god just in it it's so funny and the problem is I did the thing whiter

than what happened on stage I need that oh yeah we gotta yeah I need that I need that the only whiter than what happened on stage

was backstage when I was studying the songs I have videos of this too so I was with Derek and I was like hey what's that one song that's like what up cuz

what up cuz and he was like oh what up gangsta i was all right i was going through all the lyrics to make sure i knew the lyrics because i'm not gonna i can't not know the words wikipedia yeah because i didn't know just look up at the stands like you're really taking it in. Wow.

You're really taking it in. What a moment. When I didn't know any words, I was like, wow. Look at what we've done. And back to the chorus. What up, gang? What's up? Sorry.

It was unreal. Oh, my God. Y'all never look whiter, bro. Oh, my God. Derek was so excited, he pulls us both in. He goes, y'all can say the N-word. Just this one time. I give y'all permission.

Y'all can say it. He tried to set you up. Yeah, yeah. Good move not saying it. He tried to drink you right there. Son, dead ass, I swear to God. Oh, my God. There is one moment where I think none of them said the N-word.

I think they all ducked it themselves out of, like, pure professionalism. Like, I imagine they've done this. Like, they were, like, choreographed. Yeah. It was, like, really awesome to see what they were doing and really utilizing the whole stage. Like, clearly they've been doing this shit for fucking decades. Now you got some more respect for rap live performances.

I told you after watching 50, right? I told you the first time in Boston, I was like, this guy can shut it down. Like, it was just awesome. That was crazy, yeah. And, but they all ducked the N-word at the same time. If you had taken Eric's advice, yeah.

Hold on. I would be the only one in the arena that would have screamed. Like if I just grunked it, if I got caught up in the momentum. It would have echoed. Stop the tape. Just crazy. Just crazy. It was wild.

50 is a fucking man, dude. Just to do that. Awesome. So cool. Jacket into the crowd. Through his a fucking man, dude. Just to do that. Awesome. So cool. Throw his jacket into the crowd. Throw his hat, throw his jacket. Yeah. Signed it too.

Yeah, so he signed it and then that's whoever got it. Pro move. That's dope. Pro move. Right? Unbelievable. I mean, just like, yeah, I don't know. It's also, it was a cool energy doing the show.

I'm like hyper concerned with people having a good time like i really want them to just leave there going like man that was just the best night out yeah and it felt really cool doing the show knowing i had this like little ace in the hole little treat for them like like the show thank god was going great. And then it ended. And I looked at them and I was like, wow, they got a really great show. And then they get this. And it was just like seeing their faces was just crazy. Did you hear me say it?

What? The 50 Give Up of these 50? Yes. Yeah, we all heard it. No, but it wasn't clear. Yeah. It wasn't clear. It was really cool.

You said it, and I was in the crowd filming the crowd, and a bunch of people who maybe heard it got hyped, and then he came out, and the whole place lights up, dude. That's unbelievable. It was unreal. Yeah. Man, I told you I was going to go see you as a fan this time, and I got whatever.

Yeah, I wanted you to go on, man. I know, I know. I wanted to come as a fan. Also, I just dropped my whole hour, and I was going to go see you as a fan this time. And I got... Yeah, I wanted you to go on, man. I know, I know. I wanted to come as a fan. Also, I just dropped my whole hour and I was like, I don't know if I got a tight five for the arena right now. That's a different muscle. Fair enough. But I was...

Before that, I didn't... Yeah, of course you asked. Always asks. I loved it. I love you for that. I didn't get to make it to Toronto, so I was like, I want to see him first time MSG as a fan. It was your best hour.

Oh, thank you, man. And everybody knows how much I love you and gas you and think you're so amazing. For this to be your best hour at MSG, that's a fucking amazing thing, man. And it's like, I was blown away. My wife cried. I cried.

It was like a fucking awesome. The jokes were hilarious nonstop. So, so, so, so proud of you. Unbelievable, man. I was just like overjoyed. Alex and I hugged each other after the show and we were like, we're acting like we did something. Yeah, I know.

We all did. We all did. Yeah, we all made that happen. Like, this is years in the making. But 2009 or 8 or whatever the fuck we met, we really had nothing. And then to see you sell out MSGg and then deliver that's the part that it's like you don't people don't often deliver as they get to that level and for this to be your

best i was like oh man so proud of you now if i can criticize you for one thing my seats were amazing they were on the floor yeah seat numbers nine through eleven what was that about no way what was that why no way why i get seats nine 10 and 11 bro that was for vala's family how did you end up there dude that reminds me i remember the hotel that they had 7-11 i've gotten multiple times by the way that is just oh that's great that he was he got given room 7-11 by the hotel um but yeah thank you so much for just coming and being there. And like, yeah, just everything to make it happen.

It is crazy to have like a sustained belief in something and dream for that long. It's like 17 years to have like one specific thing. Yeah. And then have it happen. I don't think I've really fully processed it all. But I am incredibly grateful. Like everybody that showed up and the excitement of the people

that wanted to be there for the moment. I thought that was really cool. Yeah. You know? And, yeah, it was just,

it was just cool. It was just awesome, man. I don't know. It was just so awesome. Felt so grateful. Get my folks to see me there, you know? Yeah,

that was so sweet. Yeah, it was just, you know. It was a cool year, dude. Got a baby. It's on MSG. Yeah, bringing the baby. Oh, yeah, that was, that was when I, that was so sweet yeah you've been having a cool year dude got a baby MSG yeah

bringing the baby that was when I that was maybe the coolest that was when I and with the headphone oh my god she was listening to 50 Cent she was

she was saying that that was weird she was unbothered couldn't have cared less that was her moment right there isn't that crazy that was fire

that's what i cried too you put me in the black row so i have academics on my left i have a strong mate to my right that moment happens i'm holding back tears like but i want to start bawling i'm like i can't have anyone and then just one just came I was like that's crazy man that was so beautiful

I still haven't taken it in that's so crazy man yeah it's so fucking nuts yeah Madison Square Garden wow yeah

yeah wow like honestly like at the end we took a picture in the stands. It's kind of weird. Like, such a weird being a human being. Like, the things that you can, I don't want to say get used to, but, like, since we have done some arenas, they do kind of look similar from the stage. Right?

You still walk in, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. But it isn't an experience that we haven't had in other words we have experienced it before obviously the garden means so much more but when we went into the stands and then looked down they were turning it into the hockey rink oh at the end it was just this like what when we were walking around saw concession stands we're like whoa people sell hot dogs at the venue we performed at yeah like it was i guess weirdly enough the out being outside of like the performance area is where it really seemed like this second day i was just second day i was just walking all around oh yeah i was just walking everywhere i'm like feeling it what the fuck like i just couldn't believe this. People selling shirts outside.

The street vendor making money on the people coming in. Isn't this crazy? Yeah, the bootlegs were kind of fire, bro. Really? Oh my god. Gotta hire those motherfuckers. I bet it was the dude who made our shirt. Ali!

Ali, we need to talk, bro. That's actually a great hustle. You find out what shirt is going to be sold there and then you just make your own version of it have you been to the garden? no pay attention to those things we should start that also just how it ended up

the only way that that show could have happened was one scenario I don't know if I've explained this on the pod since. No. So there was only one scenario that that show happens. Okay. The Saturday show. The Saturday show. Yeah. Sorry. The Friday was locked in, but the Saturday. So basically the Knicks had to go to six games and win in six. We didn't know that. So I was told all the Knicks had to do was win. They had to just clinch, right? And in game five, I'm like hoping that they win, and then we go. So I start the day of game five going, the Knicks got to win.

Midway through the day of game five, they go, hey, if the Knicks win and the Pacers win, then they're going to start their next series on Saturday. You lose your Saturday show. I go, fuck, so I need the Knicks win, but then the Pacers will lose, right? Yeah. Then a little later, no, sorry, then during the game, we get the text message and it says, if Carolina, the Carolina Hurricanes, beat the Islanders,

they'll sweep them. They're going to start their series with the Rangers on Saturday. Oh, fuck. So now I'm watching three games. Yeah. No, I'm looking at three different scenarios. The Knicks lose, but so do the Pacers. Yeah.

Not like it would have mattered, but they did lose as well. So the Pacers have to extend. Now we're in a tricky situation. The Carolina Hurricanes won. So they can play the Rangers, but the Knicks have priority in that Saturday date. So the NHL has to wait until the Knicks win game six to even announce. Does that make sense? I think so, yeah.

Basically what I'm saying is the Knicks own that Saturday. They have priority over NHL. Basically what I'm saying is the Knicks own that Saturday. They have priority over NHL. NHL wants the Saturday, but they can't claim it until the Knicks no longer need it. And they won't know until the Knicks win game six. Which is Thursday night. Which is Thursday.

And so are they really going to promote, announce, and get all the teams there with 24 hours notice? Oh, yeah. Okay. Because you got to sell tickets. Because you have to do all these things. You have to, people have plans. There's Oh, yeah. Okay. Because you got to sell tickets. Because you have to do all these things. You have to, people have plans. There's travelers, everything. So they don't tell us until 3 p.m. the day before. Hmm.

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I think I told you this whole story where my wife jinxed it. Did I tell you this? We're up six. My wife is watching the game. She goes, oh, 29 seconds left. She goes, oh, they got it. I go, what? She goes, yeah, they got it.

I go, we don't do, what do you mean? We don't do that. She goes, there's six points. There's only 28 seconds left. There's no way that they can't lose. I go, you don't know the Knicks. Yeah. We can lose any

lead right i said i said we're the hillary clinton of basketball teams there is not a lead that we cannot she goes no it's impossible for them to lose i go emma you gotta shut it down shut it down right now and then she sat there and watched that lead evaporate and I just saw her get so quiet. It was, this is how I knew she was embarrassed. She started a fight with me. She's like, you're using tone

and you're rude with me. I was like, well, maybe because you just destroyed my life's dream by making the fucking Knicks loose. But it turns out that's the only thing

that allowed that Saturday show to happen. So it worked out. Anyway, thank you guys so much and everybody who came out and everybody who's, you know,

just been instrumental and even making this thing happen. Also, Derek, Mark, y'all fucking killed it. Thank you. Awesome. Yes, you did, man.

Love watching y'all up there. Thank you for the opportunity, man. That was crazy. Especially the dance number at the end. Unbelievable. I love y'all, man. That's really where it came through.

Shit, son. I hit my girl and y'all look at my face. Son love y'all, man. That's really where it came through. It sucked. I hit my girl. Yo, look at my... Suck, suck, suck, suck. You knew it. It was so good. The camera got turned to my phone.

It was so good. It's unreal. Please send it to me. But yo, thank you so much, man. And thanks to all the team for pulling up too. Miles, Shubb, you know, you guys aren't really on the road with us,

but to like just pull up and help out in those days, that's huge. And just thank you everybody who was there. Cassetta was also there making sure audio was good. I mean, yeah, it was just all around team event. And it was fucking awesome. Thank you. Amazing. Got to live my dream, man.

I got to live my dream. And that was really cool. And I hope you all get to experience something like that in your life, man, because that is really awesome. Really awesome. Okay. Enough being gay? Yeah. No more gay stuff?

Mm-hmm. Okay. Guys, we have a beef that has turned violent, potentially. Potentially. Great. We need to discuss it, and weentially. And we need to discuss it. We need an expert in here to discuss it. And there's only one guy that we can go to at times like this.

Absolutely. When the going gets rough, the rough gets, what is this saying? When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Oh, yeah. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Academic. The good academic. Tough get academic.

So we got DJ Academics in a motherfucking room. Give it up for DJ Academics here to make sense of all the madness Jews and Muslims are fighting Drake versus Kendrick

talk to us what do you think bro is Kendrick Muslim or no shit he might be the way out he's going you know

he's terrorized he's got terrorized he's got fun you're shooting my man drinking like he's pork I don't know what's going on

man I don't know man hold on real quick I gotta give you the flowers first man yo listen man MSG show surreal man

thank you you know watching someone who is in the entertainment field as yourself and watching what you accomplished I walked in that building and I had the same

like first five ten minutes that I had when I walked in that building and I had the same like first five, 10 minutes that I had when I walked into your Radio City Music Hall show. And it was just kind of looking around and I'm like,

like this motherfucker did it. Like, how do you even get this? Like, how do you even get to this spot? Great. So, you know,

I was, I was very impressed by the show. Mark, you fucking killed it. Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. You annihilated it.

Oh, thank you. Yeah, fire. Thank you. Derek. Open her, Derek. Kill that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yo, mark you fucking thank you brother i appreciate you annihilated oh thank you thank you derek and yo watching you up there was just like i was like yo my man really worked i thought he was gonna be overcoming emotion too like i thought i thought i thought you were gonna cry i called that

you didn't know i didn't feel it was it was weird what was happening yeah it was weird what's happening up there i don't know i was filled with a lot of things but it didn't make No, I didn't feel. It was weird what was happening. Yeah, it was weird what was happening up there. I don't know. I was filled with a lot of things, but it didn't make me want to cry. I cried the next day. I was, like, walking around Saturday. The audience had the feel, at least from my perspective, and you guys can tell me what you guys thought. It was like they were more celebrating you in that moment

where it was just, just like they were just happy they've probably been around with you forever my nigga like they probably went to shows where it was just you and 200 people and these the first show you put online right so tickets probably sold out these are like the hardcore hardcore fans yeah no no saturday of saturday first yeah but still man it was yeah it was just uh they knew the moment they knew like the importance of it yeah you know and uh it was cool it's funny um charla hit me and he was like he was like yo can act come backstage and i was like yeah we gave him backstage access and then we didn't see him and then taylor comes up to me she's like yo

drake just dropped again i was like oh this motherfucker act already streaming his motherfucker is already on the laptop somewhere you'll be getting a story okay so all right well listen i'm really big friday night was it may 3rd yes yeah so first and foremost i'm really big on supporting people who have supported me, my guys. You know what I mean? I really appreciate you coming. So Joe hits me, says, I need you to do my part. I say, Celeste, I'm there. You're a big show.

I'm like, I got to be there. I feel like I need to be a part of this moment and witness you having this experience. I got to be there, right? And I'm like, yo, rap, this songs have been dropping about every 13 hours. And I'm like, you guys rap diss songs have been dropping about every 13 hours. And I'm like, you guys got to give me a break. The universe has to be like, yo, ceasefire. Go ceasefire. Let my boy get a comedy show or something.

Like, come on. So I'm like, all right, bet. I'm in there. I'm watching. Everything is great. 50 comes out. 50 loves you, bro. Yo, 50's the man.

50's the man. 50 comes out. Everything is good. And I'm like, all right, cool. Yo yo i can't wait to get backstage when he chop it up with everyone i see this motherfucker right here the first thing akash says to me is like yo crony like i see i see i see of course alex and i'm like all right cool everything is good and my phone just starts to explode starts to work a little bit. And Drake says to me, no, I asked Drake. I said, Drake, yo, because this is after country just dropped.

I said, bro, you just need to give me the heads up of what's going to be what. Because, you know, I got to make sure I'm at the right spot. And right now I'm not in the right spot. And he says, yo, you got 30 minutes. Get on stream. And I'm like, this is the, like, I think 50 is still on stage. And I'm like, yo. And to set the stage, just Drake has told us he's dropping the nuke at this point. Yes.

So he says, you got 30 minutes. I'm dropping the nuke. Yo, I looked at everyone around me. Yeah, I was there. And clue my security. And I said, beeline for the door. Get the driver outside. We're going back to Jersey.

We might have to run tolls. We might have to drive the wrong way. Instantly, I get back to the crib, and I got back with about 10 minutes to go. Yeah, yeah. Loaded up. I obviously knew what the play was song drops just another historic night man like yeah it's this has been did you get the song ahead

of time no okay does that ever happen um no okay well well i don't want to get this because it's about you want to react live yes yeah and that's what people want to see. You taint the reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'll give you a tidbit that I've never said before. So when the first time the first song comes out, Push Ups, it got leaked on my Reddit. Right? And I don't know how they got it. It was a very rough version.

But that's when everyone's like, is it AI? Was that the Get Money beat? Huh? When it still had the Biggie beat on it? Yes, the original. And I hit Drake, and I'm like, yo, Crotty, I did see Crotty. I was like, Crotty, are we going? Like, is this it?

You know, because everyone was saying, yo, who's going to go first, him or Kendrick? And I think Drake was just getting like, he wanted to get it over with. So he's like, fuck it, I'm going to do do it but i really don't know how it really got leaked but i asked him about it and he said he didn't give me a yes or no he was just like yo could you get that taken down that already told me i'm like okay and i was like well i don't control my reddit um and i'm like well, I still got to do my job, right? He's not really telling me if it's real or it's not. Fuck it.

I'm going to go on stream. Let's at least play around with some of these alternate versions of what this could be. I'm playing the song. You know, people are, they're kind of having this lukewarm response. It's a very unmixed, unfinished song. I look at my phone. Stop playing that bullshit. Here's the real shit.

Yeah, there you go. i put the real shit on and i don't know how people listen faster than me because i think we're all moving in seconds but i get i get it almost damn near first and i'm playing it everyone in my chat they're spamming you're on the song i'm like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i get to about like the end of the song i I hear the voice note from me, which is from my stream. And I'm like, holy shit. That's crazy. That was your Madison Square Garden. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

For me, I remember when every rapper has ever mentioned me. I remember Em even mentioned me. I was like, oh, shit. Eminem is mentioned. When Drake used that clip, I was like, I'm immortalized. That's it. That's it. Because I remember back-to-back, Charlotte, like, yo,

you going to make me buy bottles of Charlotte, baby? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just like, damn. One day. One day. That's why I thought the bigger cosign was 616 in LA. When they identify you as the opps, that's like. No, no. When both of you as the opposite, that's like.

No, no. When both of them, when they both mentioned me, the 6'16 in L.A. thing, which, okay, so now, you know, this whole thing is happening. Drake drops. And, of course, I'm going to be honest with you. I really didn't think Kendrick was going to drop at all. Because, like, the word was just that, you know, even I've said popularly, i said he's good at making moments he's not good at like this is is it it's like seeing a guy and he's hitting like the speed bag and you're like yo this guy's a fighter but you've never seen him fight you really don't know so it's like let's go off you thinking i'm a great fighter rather than

seeing how i move when the pressure is really on and um you really didn't think he was gonna drop he's been calling for no no not like i'm dropping back to back i thought he was gonna respond maybe on this album but in like a little tasteful way not like okay let's drop song for song let's do it now so i know drake was ready to do it now so i started a countdown i'm like all right let's see and i honestly thought i was gonna go to like yo this is day 70 not responding day 17th came he dropped euphoria i'm like fucking shocked i'm like what the fuck is going on they're dropping songs back to back and then i also start realizing something very unique my stream is almost the place where this, the biggest,

if you ask me the biggest beef in hip hop history. Yeah. And musically, right. Because obviously, you know, we don't big in pocket. Those had really serious dioramifications,

but just musically. Yeah. This is the most songs you've ever got. Hip hop is bigger than it was 25 years ago. The consumption is crazier. Yeah. Right. And I'm watching this and i'm like this is all playing out where my stream is the town square you're the epicenter of it all yeah

i'm the radio station i'm not only the media but i'm like the reflection and where the fans are coming to to consume this for the first time and i'm the premiere you know i know that push-ups drop next day actually push-ups drops the the official so i'm on a 10 out actually might have been 12 hours live stream i'm playing the leaked version yeah two hours later i get the real version so i'm like fuck it we got the version now, and there's an extra beat at the end. I'm playing that shit. I'm like, OK, this is dope. Two and a half hours later, which by the way,

shows how long I stream for. Two and a half hours later, Rick Ross's man hits me. And I'm thinking he just wants to call into the stream. Shout out to my man Sam Sneak. He said, oh, act, hit me. It's important. It's urgent. I'm like, OK, you probably just want to get on. I just want to ask him like why does rick ross not like drake did drake like steal

his wings what's going on yo he calls into the stream he's like just check her phone ross goes into the studio makes a diss song in three hours they sent i don't know how quickly they did everything they sent it to me while i'm still on stream to like premiere that. That happens. Also, simultaneously, the R&B, like, listen, I blame all this on Cat Williams. You know what I mean? Ever since he said that.

Yeah, truly. Truly, he was a catalyst. Yeah, yeah. Because you saw it get, I really think you saw, it could get rewarded. Yes. Cat has like 60 million views

or whatever on that episode. We all want to see his new special. That came out, I think, Saturday. It kind of revived Cat in a way. So I think a lot of people like me who love being haters were like, oh, you could get rewarded for this. Whereas for 20 years before that, it was like, have you got negative shit to say? Everybody's going to look at you crazy. Just fall back.

But I feel like if it's substantiated and you got it and it's logically sound, people will reward it. And I think 2024 has been like that for that reason. And I'm in this moment of realizing this shift that's happened. I'm like, did Ross really just send me? Like, I know some people joke about the DJ on my name. They'll be like, yo, you're just academics, bro. You haven't DJed in a while, which, to be fair, I haven't DJed in a long time. I used to do it back in college.

But, like, that's what the quintessential role of a dj is the premier record so i get that from ross and i'm like oh shit and i'm like all right i'm kind of going through the moments here another song drops in quavo and chris brown they're beefing too yeah i almost call that an r&b beef but it's not because it was a rapper. And Chris Brown goes crazy. By the way, it seems like everybody's fighting over girls, right? Yeah. They go crazy. Quavo calls me the next morning.

Instantly, I'm thinking, because I've had a conversation with Quavo before, and I'm thinking he's mad at me for something I said on the stream. Because I get pretty heated and passionate, and sometimes I say some shit. And I do try to get my, I'm not Schultz or anything, or Ak or Akash or anything or Mark but i try to get my little jokes off you're very funny very funny i get the call Quavo says yo Ak i yo he's like yo you hyped up that Chris Brown song so crazy he said why are you doing me like that i'm like i'm just reacting to music like new music is dropping yeah yeah yo he's like you know know I was going to come back, right? I said, word?

I said, good. He's like, yo, I got it. But I only want you to drop it. Fire. I'm like, let's do it. Let's do it. So pretty much ever since then, and then every time after that, while I was on stream, Kendrick, and I have no communication with the team, Kendrick drops only when I'm on stream.

He hasn't done a non-stream drop since Euphoria. Interesting. So they know. He dropped five songs. We don't stream 12 hours a day. You're on stream a lot. That's a fair point. If you're never not on stream, he's going to drop one.

Son, you were on stream at 9.15 in the morning when he dropped Friday? This Friday? 6.16 in LA. That's 9.16 in LA. Yes. That means. Yes. God damn, dude.

What were you doing? No, I'll tell you why I was on stream. So the night before I'm on stream, and I ain't going to lie, I was blissed. Yeah. Like, I got off stream early. Usually I do six hours. It's about like two hours and 45 minutes. He said, I was blessed. Yeah. Like, I was drunk. Like, I got off stream early. Usually I do six hours. It's about like two hours and 45 minutes. He said, I got to go.

Yo, I started looking up, because you know me, like on my streams, like we do everything live. So we're Googling, we're doing things, we're getting lyrics, we're like trying to connect dots. And I remember I had like a cup of like tequila and I was mixing with orange juice. And sometimes I'll be turning up to music before while drinking. I don't know what happened.

I might have drunk myself. I might have did it myself, my brother. You know what I'm saying? And what happened was like I started looking up at the screen and the words were just like I was dyslexic. And usually when that happens, it's like I'm clear. Power down. I'm clear void Powered down. Yeah, I'm clear-voiced enough to know, hey, when you're talking, you have to think to talk. And you usually talk for 10 hours without thinking.

Yeah. And I'm hearing words getting kind of mingled. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I got to get off of here because the audience might not know the instant drop-off. Yeah. But cerebrally like i'm dumb it's only gonna get worse and i think i just like cut the stream off i lost power i don't want to tell them but you did your brain so i'm feeling so guilty because at this point

they're used to the six hours they're like what the fuck was that three hours yeah yeah so i'm like all right man that's so let me just get over that started speculating why he just cut the line they're telling me that drake is is yo drake must have blah blah blah like no so i'm like because really i was about to break down drake's lyrics i'm like are you know i wake up first thing i do go feed my dogs whatever whatever i'm like yo i'm on stream early stream as soon as i get on stream i'm about to break down drake's lyrics and i have about like it's almost like 100 000 people watching whoa yeah in the morning and i'm like getting to it like i'm in like the first verse and everyone's like yo ken's a drop i'm like i'm looking at the comments i'm like you guys are fucking trolls wait what are you streaming on i'm streaming on multiple platforms twitter his twitter it's

so i should do youtube platforms and it's a simultaneous stream yes you see that so if you're on twitch we're about to start streaming on tiktok too so you got it for big moments i get on x as well yeah i don't know because i don't know the monetization strategy yet fully for X, but, you know. It's more about eyeballs at this point. Like, let's create, but you can have

one single stream that disseminates to all these different platforms. Yeah, just on YouTube, we almost, within two channels, I have one with like 80,000 and then the other

with 30,000. Wow. Rumble will have about like 35 or 25. Wow. Dude, at one point, X had like an 800,000. Yeah, yeah. And then the reach on X is like. Insane. I don Dude, at one point, X had like an 800,000. Yeah, yeah.

And then the reach on X is like... Insane. I don't... Like, you know, I have some theories about... Like, my Twitter is like... It's like, yeah, steroids right now. Yeah, Elon gas.

Yeah, like... Shit, Elon responded to... Yeah. Elon responded to... Like, the last stream was like, yo, this is what we're tapped into. Like, he literally... I go live, it sends out a tweet when you when you go live on x and he goes in the comments and says

this is what everyone cares about right now wow elon is african bro shout out to you dude that's fine i don't know how he has time for like yeah i know i haven't even listened all this distract how is it going to happen to you well well go make a call the fuck you listening to rap beef I know I've seen my very first cyber drug today I've never seen one of them they look cool

to see that level I was like this is like such a commercially viable and accessible rap beef it's benefiting so's it's okay benefits so many people all right let's let's talk about uh i want to know your thoughts on who who is up right now and all this other stuff but first of all like the way that the media has played a part in this rap beef is really interesting to me because it's rappers openly using media to promote the songs whereas back in the day i don't know if it's like i don't know if there's a conversation where this

person's hitting up dj clue and saying yo can you play this at this time and then like i don't know if it was as open this is open i'm sure it was yeah it's always been like this yeah okay so break that down if we go back in time you know uh charlamagne getting mentioned is is literally because charlamagne was on a rival station going um and flex were was premiering this songs to drake so how do you kind of... Take a shot at Flex. This is why he's like, yo, I'm going to tell Clue drop a bomb on him. That's Flex's thing. Clue's on the other radio station.

So it was like trying to take the power and the influence because everyone used to be tuned to that box, which was the radio, and listen to Flex. There's a notorious moment

in hip-hop when Flex premieres Otis, which is a song by Kanye and Jay-Z. And he played like 89 times. But that made the record. Him premiering I Get Money made that record. That was the influence. My argument is that media's always had this.

These artists know that it's not necessarily about premiering the song because these artists now have the platform. And these songs are going to do what they're going to do it's like how do you get to kind of influence the narrative i've always told told people way back even from the six nine era i said listen i tell every artist i remember having this conversation with cardi b you can't fight media you should as an artist you need to friend them, as an artist, you need to utilize them. Befriend them. Yeah, utilize them. You need to, again, notoriously, I forgot the famous quote, but it's like, if one story that could be completely career ending, if you have a little bit of influence or relationship with that media outlet, it's just seen as a mistake. Rather than this is like this maniacal intentional thing yeah because like an ass media is so prolific at like creating narratives

and storylines and then pushing that information on the people whereas like the rapper can do it and they can address it but the media is just non-stop and then other people are picking up what you're saying and their blog accounts picking up what other blog accounts have picked up from what you're saying. Yeah. And if there is a cohesive effort, for example, like you, Graham Wizard, Keep Six Solid. Like if you guys are all Team Drake and pushing out the same information, and that's what my feed is, I'm like, well, they got to be right. All these different things. Now, here's my question, though.

is, I'm like, well, they got to be right. All these different things. Now, here's my question, though. Once, well, let me just ask it. Once everybody knows that you guys are Team Drake, does that make us look at information that is critical of the opposition differently? For example, if I see a Fox News headline talking about some liberal politician, I immediately go, well, of going to trash that person so i might need to look into this story to see if there's truth there do you understand like yeah does it discredit the criticism of the other side once we know that you guys have an allegiance uh it does once that doesn't align with what the public thinks you know keep expanding that like for example you know i came out and i said hey listen if if you know i don't think by the way this this back and forth is done but if i had to score it in this cross section of time i got kendrick

slightly up so now the audience goes okay he's being honest yeah right if i if i'm just saying drake yo drake his body knocked him out then everybody goes oh he's being honest. Yeah, right? If I'm just saying, Drake, yo, Drake is body. Knocked him out. Then everybody goes, oh, he's body. Oh, this is a lie. You get what I mean? So you feel in order to maintain your, I guess, credibility with the audience,

you have to review things as they are, even though you're openly a fan of, it's almost like, do you, like there's certain people for like uh like like with barstool for example they might be a big fan of the patriots or a big fan of the celtics but if they're playing like shit they have to acknowledge that they're not playing up to the standard or else the audience starts to go oh you just yeah say they're good no matter what i can't trust you 100 got it so you still feel a need to go

this is where i see it 100 like so i'm you know what we do even though like on my stream like we're breaking down these you know attacks at each other these allegations and you know it would be very convenient to be like well we'll just keep breaking down the things that would make this person look whatever type of way but But you feel responsibility. No, you have to. Right? So, like, even though he's saying certain things about Drake, it's like, you gotta look into them. Right? You have to like, everything is, and that's the thing about a stream.

They can tell when you're hiding something. Right? Like, hey, there's a popular video that's recapping maybe, like, some grooming allegations by Drake. If you don't go watch that and you're watching everything for 10 hours, my God. I'll call you out on it. Of course.

They're like, yo, you know, so again, you know. What do you think about this? Honestly, I think the grooming thing is bullshit. And I think it's really, and again, I don't know enough about it, but I find it very hard to believe that somebody that is that famous would be open about doing that

if those were his intentions. Hey, let me tell you do you know what i mean no and also like that label even the accusation like think about what the accusation is right if somebody goes yo you're a pedophile even if someone accused i don't even want to say alex like even if someone accused miles even if someone accused miles of being a pedophile knowing that he was accused, you would never let him babysit your kid, even though you know he's innocent.

Just the fact that there was an accusation, you'd be like, I don't even... It's such a fucking, what is it, scarlet letter, even the accusation. I think this is going to alter Judge Square for the rest of his life.

I think he's going to have to move different and be cognizant. You know, the other day he was seen with Lado's little sister. She was 21, but still, some people were like, why are you with young girls, right?

And I think he's going to always take that into accountability. Now, I think on either this album, maybe with Certified Lover Boy, like he was rapping about like she was 21 or like he's name dropping or age dropping the girls. And they're like, cool song. And if we remove you from all the lyrics, but if we're thinking, you know, like he has a song called like TSU. It was like, yo, why is a 37-year-old guy rapping about a college campus? Like, you know what I mean? You've seen the video of the girl being like, Drake hit me up.

He saw me at, he was a fan of high school girls basketball. And then he hit me in my, and it's like, why are you a fan of any women's basketball? Okay, I'm going to be honest with you. This is just me personally. You know what I mean? This is me personally. They can't even lay up with their offhand, probably. I've never met Drake personally.

I can't tell what he's into and what he's not into. I can only tell what I've seen publicly, right? And I've seen the girls that he's allegedly romantically involved with. That's a different conversation than if we're going down this, like, because the thing is, if you accuse somebody of being a pedophile, you're accusing them of liking pre-pubescent teens, right? Like if Drake is just- Well, it could be post-pubescent teens,

under 18. All right, let me ask. Do you think- Yeah, we don't divide them up. Yeah, what is it? You guys made it when people do that. They're like, technically from 13 or whatever. No, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't think there's allegations. What the fuck is going on? I don't think there's any. What the fuck is going on? I don't think there's any allegations. Now you're looking biased. A pedophile is from the age three to 11. No, no, no. That's not our condition. When you say teenage, what is that?

Hey, no, no. I guess what I'm saying is that. I think it's bullshit. I'll be honest. We only see Drake, right? We only see Drake with women who are legal, right? Now, say like Leonardo DiCaprio, right? People are like, yo, he only dates girls from like 20 to 25.

Yeah. And he's like 50. Is that just weird? Is that creepy? Or is that like, no, you're like. Here's an important distinction. It's legal. No, but that's what I'm saying.

I think that's kind of the same thing with Drake. Like, we've never heard that Drake dated... Exactly. That's why it's bullshit. I mean, it's a great assault. Like, if you really want to just make something radioactive and assassinate their character, it's a great thing to say.

Because the second you go, I'm not a pedophile, people are like, I don't know now. You don't even want to defend yourself in the accusation. No, you're right. But this idea that, like, a guy who's 37 or whatever don't even want to defend yourself in the accusation. No, you're right. But this idea that a guy who's 37 or 80 years old can't fuck a 20-year-old girl. Get the fuck out of here.

At some point, they're women. At 20 years old, they go to war. Let's say 20. Bro, bro, bro. At 18 or 19, they're going to war. They're driving a drone yeah they got OnlyFans they got OnlyFans

like nope no no dead ass that's the person like all these people they're like oh my god

how dare you have sex with 21 year olds who you think you jerking off to weirdo when you go watch porno you're not going well is this girl

25 years old every one of them bitches is fucking 19 or 20 years old nah I only watch granny porn for that reason yo in reality so I'm with you I'm with you right and that's why what I'm saying is Every one of them bitches is fucking 19 or 20 years old. Nah, I only watch Granny Porn for that reason. Yo, in reality, so I'm with you. I'm with you, right?

And that's why. What I'm saying is stop. What they're trying to do is move the goalposts. You know what's weird? Underage girls, that's weird. You should be in prison. That's not even like joke around about shit. That's like, if that is even like, that is jail.

Like, take the nuts away. But 20-year-old girls, what are we talking about here? Like, whenonardo caprio is banging uh these 20 year old girls it's like he's not banging 20 year old girls he's banging supermodels that happen to be 20 his first thing is supermodel and they're 20 but do you think it's a little weird because i know you saw the video about the grooming stuff like of course when you just compile every single story and put it back to back to back, it's going to look a little weird. They did this shit with the guy who directed

Guardians of the Galaxy. This is why this shit fucked up. Remember the guy? Was that his name? What's the director's name? Dunn? Yeah, James Dunn. It got him kicked out of fucking Marvel. What they basically did, this is during cancel culture,

he had a bunch of like um pedophile jokes and he was like making these like dark twisted jokes about like something about like having sex with kids or something like that but they're like obviously fucking jokes and what someone did is they collected all of them from different years in his life and put them on one page and when you have 10 different things from different years in your life they're on one page you're like oh that motherfucker is a creep and they fired his ass yeah so now if you're in a battle with somebody and you can compile all these 10 different things and put it in a battle so there's two things going on one is is it an effective strategy incredibly effective the other thing is is it indicative of that person having a problem which which I'm saying is no. I think it's incredibly effective from Kendrick,

but does it make that person a pedophile? No. Is James Gunn a pedophile? No. That's why he's now working. He fucking runs DC, and they actually brought him back to do The Last Guardians.

You know what's a little odd? Like, a lot of these guys who used to be frequent collaborators and used to party with them, they're kind of, they're either same, like, even like Rick Ross. I know they're not seeing eye to eye right now, but it's like, if me and you used to party with them, they're kind of, they're either same, like, even like Rick Ross, I know they're not

seeing eye to eye right now, but it's like, if me and you used to party and have a bunch of girls around us, if later on I'm like, you like kids, that makes me look

kind of crazy too. So exactly, it's like, oh, so you was cool with him when everything was going on. It's the same shit with Diddy. It's like,

no, no, no, we can't just throw Diddy and Drake in the same bar. Yeah, you're right about that. Hey, buddy, buddy, buddy. We can't just throw Diddy and Drake in the same pop. Hey, buddy, buddy, buddy. I seen a video today. I was more saying people are quiet about Diddy, but they're loud about Drake. But it's like, y'all been to Diddy parties.

I seen a video today that fucked me up a little bit. What was it? Just because it now gets me to think is there something I don't know? About whom? Well, not necessarily Drake, but like so um is your peer um shane shane gillis yes yes hilarious yes there's a clip new show out on netflix tires go watch oh yeah the premieres there's a there's a 2019 i guess he does podcast 2019 him and his guy who's his co-host i I guess, are on the podcast.

And he randomly comes out. You know, Aaron dug it up. Randomly in 2019, he comes out. They're talking about Epstein, then R. Kelly. And he says, I'm going to just say this right now. In five years, they're getting Drake. And like, he kind of like, it's not even like a joke where it's like, he starts to kind of. He's like, yo, that's the word out about this guy.

And that made me a little bit uneasy because I was like. Because the two white guys from rural Pennsylvania. No, no. I was just like, yo, I was like. Something about hip hop that you don't know? No, no, no. This is the thing about narratives. It's like, you know how far you got to grasp at straws?

Well, that's what people don't know. For the two whitest human beings on the planet to tell you something about a hip hop star that you speak to regularly? Yeah, but I don't know these people's personal lives. I really wouldn't know. I really wouldn't know what they're into sexually. I wouldn't know. You know what's so funny? This is hilarious.

Anytime white people talk about hip hop, it's stay out of our culture. The second they start calling Drake a pedophile, they're like, yo, they might be on it. They might know some shit we don't know. I definitely am not saying I believe it. I think you team OVO, bro. No, I am team OVO. I mean, team XO. So many motherfucking acronyms or whatever.

I think you team XO. TDE. Me personally, me personally. TDE. No, XO too. Me personally, and I think this is probably the dangers of kind of like probably navigating the game like how Drake has done to get to the top, is that I don't think Drake necessarily is following a, to your point, a high school female basketball player for some weird shit. I don't.

What I do think is that Drake knows how to stay next to the heat. I guarantee he follows speed. He's probably 18 now. But when we start popping off, he's a 16-year-old streamer. Yeah, of course. He's probably DMing him stuff. You got to realize Drake realizes his lifespan also requires him to be current, staying next to other people who are affecting culture in that

generation and the only thing that again we've never seen a sexual message like it's one thing he's like yo exactly yo send me a nude like yeah like you know i mean like if if that's what the um if the interactions were that i'd be like okay that's crazy but just because he's he's gonna follow if a child star gets 30 million followers right now he's gonna follow that person yo you're great yo you're great oh come to one of my shows like i'm pretty sure he's not like yo come to the after party and then the ditty party we about to do but the fact that we're having this discussion is why it's so effective has anyone accused him has anyone come out and been like never no all the women have actually came out to say,

yo, when I took a picture with him, like, nothing happened. That was the only interaction. Nothing else ever happened. He's too shrewd. Like, I can't... Someone who has navigated

the game this well to be where he is, I can't imagine him just fucking up in the fucking DMs or something like that. It's like, get out of here.

Now, him having a daughter on the side, if you already got one, it's possible to have another. It's like, get out of here. Now, him having a daughter on the side, if you already got one, it's possible to have another. Like, to me, even if it's bullshit, it's more believable than this other thing. And by the way, I feel what's happening to Drake

is kind of the inevitability of, like, that, quote, quote, and this is why it's, like, so opposite of what's going on with Kendrick. It's like the Fresh and Fit thing, where it's like, yo's so opposite of what's going with kendrick it's like the fresh and fish fit thing where it's like yo i'm just fucking a bunch of chicks like if drake still isn't dating another chick a new chick every two weeks this doesn't happen right like if drake gets settled down and like literally isn't doing the things which by the way

help furthers his career i'm always going to be with the new hot chick i'm a court side every game i'm popping out like the biggest artist should he He probably doesn't have these type of things. This is why the battle with him and Kendrick is a little bit unfair, right? Kendrick's a really boring guy that stays home with his wife. All right, guys, we're going to take a break real quick so I can help you make the biggest no-brainer decision you're ever going to make. If you're looking to have some nice alcoholic beverages in the comfort of your own home, have it delivered to you with DoorDash. Obviously, you use DoorDash to get food delivered to you. So just take the

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With all due respect to the musical genius and talent that is Kendrick and again i'm a casual no one gives a fuck about him meaning i don't know his hobbies i don't know his interests i don't know if he plays hockey with his friends i don't know if he's in a poker tournament i don't know anything about kendrick. Coming from somebody who just did a roast, the most effective way to roast people, like, I didn't talk about the comedians

almost at all, because nobody knows them compared to the athletes who are there. I'm just shooting at the athletes and the famous people there. I wish I knew Kim was there, because she's the most famous person in the room. That joke's gonna go crazy. Everybody knows every detail about Drake. We know where he vacations.

We know what his best friends are. We know if he's had plastic fucking surgery. We know every single thing. That's what I just said, because Drake be outside. Kendrick's inside. It's not that people don't care. It's just that he doesn't give people anything to go off of. He's a private person.

My whole point was thatke's lifestyle has created this my right like no one no one is at this point like rihanna disappeared sure jay-z at this point was like so secluded but drake is still living like the 25 year old i just got fake hold on hold on the the separation that i would say is kendrick is known for his music and only his music. Drake is known for the personality and celebrity that is Drake. Yes. And his music. And the personality and celebrity that is Drake allows you to take so many more shots in this battle.

There's so much more information that's out there. Drake got to explain to us shit about Kendrick that he's making fun of. Yeah. in this battle. There's so much more information that's out there. Drake gotta explain to us shit about Kendrick that he's making fun of. Yeah. Like, I kind of lost interest in the battle because I don't know enough about Kendrick. I'm like, I think he's very talented.

Wait, they're not living together? Where do they even live? He has a wife? He has a kid? What is going on? Who's they free? I don't even know a kid like what is going on to your point i've never stayed free i never i don't even know the people that you're making fun of him for you gotta wait you gotta give me a wikipedia of this guy before you battle him well here's the thing too though i i i argue so if we're looking at levels and popularity i would have kendrick in music then they're close let's get out of here no music no music wise you're too you're too close you're too close that's his point he's saying in music no no no

in music they're close you're just in the world they're not you're saying in terms of music popularity or in the music ability no in the music music popular listen if we define popularity because i well i'll do that on consumption So if Drake drops Do you think Drake and Kendrick have been consumed The same amount? In close amounts. Drake's still more popular But Kendrick was never that far behind I don't think it's in the same stratosphere

I mean the numbers are there The numbers are there But Drake drops way more So of course he's gonna stream even now I don't think Kendrick can do the tour that Drake has done internationally I don't think Kendrick has an international draw

like Drake does I don't even think it's close okay well you answer this question now but no real quick let's just address that because what you're talking about is popularity right no I would say music in music consumption when Kendrick drops an album drake drops an album if if it's a hundred people that are gonna go check out drake 75 to 80

will also check out kendrick and that's just the reality of just music well let's get data on this i'm gonna be honest with you kendrick uh kend Lamar, he is the second most consumed person. We can't act like this is some bum. You know, Drake is wildly more popular. And by the way, Drake knew this coming into it. You have more to lose than to gain. So it seemed close. So Kendrick outsold Drake in the last tour.

And then Drake's most recent tour outsold Kendrick. So it seems like it's the two of them going back. But he said Drake outsold Kendrick Lamar in just 30 of the 72 shows he did this year. Yeah, but then the year before that, Kendrick outsold Drake. So this tour is huge for Drake. So the point is, he's saying Drake is bigger, but it's not a crazy gap, which seems to stand by every metric. Just only within music. So this grosseded 129 million and i think kendrick's was 110 million so it was relatively like that's way closer than i thought when drake comes to new york well shit he's been on a tour run like he did new york venues probably about six seven times

and kendrick did about three or four right Right? Again, definitely way more, but... It's twice as much. Well, we're still in the same punching league. You get what I mean? Yeah, twice as much as not to me. Compared to other acts in hip-hop, yes, you're sizably bigger than me, but I'm still in the same realm.

I'm still in that same realm i'm still in that same realm which matters which which which that that's what's gonna force drake to respond right right hey you have literally the number two guy calling you out now i i do agree with you to some point where he didn't necessarily have to drop a standalone this song he could have just said hey i'm gonna wait just like how you dropped a diss to me on a hit song like that yeah next time i'm gonna dj callous so i'm gonna diss the shit out of you exactly right i don't think it only benefits him it only benefits because drake uh people say drake took the l with pusher because he didn't respond but kendrick made a whole song a six and a half

no you would have to do that. Like That was not that. Like That was a feature. No, no, I know. But then Kendrick dropped. No, Kendrick wouldn't drop that to Drake. Oh, you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. So you don't think Drake should have dropped at all, responded to Like That at all?

That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is he should have done it in a song, not given Kendrick. He should have gone verse to verse. But he did. He did push up. And he shot at everybody. No, he's saying it wasn't just the Drake

yeah but it's a standalone diss it's not even meant to be a single I think this proved to me that Drake is completely done with being he's completely done

with rap battles he can't do it anymore and it's not because of ability but because of where he is you see you know what's happening now

and I was talking about even the numbers Kendrick Lamar's numbers like he's about to go number one next week with the new song he just dropped at drake he's going number one in the country yeah and you're you're gonna give this guy his first number one of his number one solo record yeah of his whole career yeah because you would engage with him two things is happening kendrick has never had a number one record a solo solo he's never had a number one solo record. And you're saying that he's on the same level as Drake?

You guys are saying that? He's had number one records. It just hasn't been a solo record. But I'm saying, are you making the argument that someone who's never had a number one solo record is on the same level in music popularity as Drake? Is that the argument you guys are standing on tonight? Well, Drake has a handful.

I just want to know if we're lying today. Are we going to lie to Drake? Well, Drake has a handful of solos. Are we just going to sit on the couch and lie to Drake? Is that the argument you guys are standing on tonight? Well, Drake has a handful. I just want to know if we're lying tonight. Are we just going to sit on the couch and lie to each other? Do we lie for funsies? Or do we just acknowledge the reality? What do we do? Drake has a handful of solo records that became number one, but not as much

as you might think. A lot of his are also features or someone else's on the song. We have to be realistic. This is not like, you know, this is not Big Taylor, okay? What I'm saying is it took Drake for Kendrick to get his first number one. By the way, up until Hotline Blake. Think about that.

It's not a feature, but it is. It wasn't Hotline Blake because I think that went number two. Or maybe Drake never had a number one as a lead artist for a while like i remember when he wrote that long ass paragraph and at that time everyone thought not only was he the biggest in the culture they thought he was one of the biggest in the world but obviously things change in how keep in mind i'm not talking about the culture yeah i'm talking about just the world i think drake is more

accessible the things that he's rapping about are more accessible internationally than the things Kendrick are rapping about. Because of that, he'll have more success internationally. And then those numbers will just be bigger. Like if Kendrick is talking about like personal, experiential, cultural trauma that exists in the black community in America, what is some fucking Swedish guy going to listen to that? But you're also using a metric that no one cares about, right? gonna listen to that like yeah but you're also using a metric that no one cares about right like you see like when we report sales and like you know as a media page report sales we don't care about anything but u.s sales there's a global sales which obviously goes to still money like you're still getting paid from that data but usually it's what happens in the u.s kind of

goes into the rest of the world of course certain artists don't focus on those markets right drake is huge internationally compared to any of these guys by like a landslide same with taylor swift same with all superstars but the conversation you can't name a superstar that's not huge internationally but the conversation that drake wants to affect is the one that happens usually stateside that's why he has to compete what i'm saying is that's the miscalculation. In my opinion, I think that he was yearning for that approval. It's a legacy thing. I think it's insecurity. I think it's like he wanted that validation.

It's always been an MC. Every rapper that's always held that throne of not being the biggest rapper, but being the best rapper, has always not only. That's that's one of the things it's like, well, I'm going to trivialize a little bit by saying LeBron in the dunk contest. Like people were saying about Kendrick, we never seen you in a battle. And every guy who was supposed to the top guy we see in a battle tested.

Now, Drake is already about tested. Sure, he lost a push of tea, but we've seen him win many others. Right. He could have not. He could have ducked this one, but people also were watching to say, hey, don't tell me you handled Meek Mill when you knew you could body him. Pusha T, you didn't finish that one. And the guy we really thought could beat you, it's like the Floyd argument when they thought he was ducking certain people. So yes, that's where the ego comes in, but the MC comes in as well let's go toe to toe now if i'm

if i'm drake and i think this goes back to the point i was saying earlier he no longer could do these because what we've realized in this battle is that i told people that drake was an underdog and that was asinine for a lot of people they're like yo he's the most popular rapper and i'm like let me say this there is a group of people that have came together. These are the neutrals. That they've came together and they're tired of the King reigning. They've came to see a beheaded. They've came to see a new King.

This is what humans do. Humans do not like to see. All of this aside. Let me just get this point out. Humans oftentimes resent success. It happened with Michael Jordan. We all saw it. I saw it as a Knicks fan.

I was like, fuck Michael Jordan. He was beating my team all the time. He's not as good as Magic Johnson. He's not as good as Larry Bird. I wasn't even fucking alive with a Magic Larry playing. I just needed somebody else. People said this about Michael Jackson.

They're like, no, Prince. This, to me, is closest to Michael Jackson and Prince, in my opinion. Prince was incredibly talented, amazing musician, played all the instruments. He is nowhere near Michael Jackson in terms of his success as an artist, but people needed an alternative. This is what happens when Carl Malone won the MVP. It was just exhaustion of Jordan being so great and so amazing. So what you need is,

you basically have this other person that you turn to. That's not to say that Carl wasn't amazing. It's not to say that Prince wasn't amazing it's not to say that prince was amazing it's not to say that kendrick is one of the most prolific artists that's ever existed it's not discrediting them all but in terms of like where drake is in the world people are going to look in other directions because humans naturally we resent the success and i think and i think we inflate sometimes other people that are not, maybe we over-inflate some people because of that resentment for the success. Well, that's why I got led to this next point, which I've continually said.

I said, listen, the rules aren't the same for both artists. When Kendrick drops like that, like that was a response to a song called First Versus Shooter. He drops like that,ke has never ducked a battle he's always been there right everyone's like it's been like two weeks drake didn't say anything or someone says he's scared that's what i'm saying changing the rules okay drake drops it's two weeks now we're waiting for kendrick yo chill out yo he just takes a while to cook like what people think about both artists

doing the same thing just taking time to create music I thought Kendrick was ducking and I was annoyed at Kendrick and I'm I'm a Drake hater but I'm also not like a Kendrick slurper but also look at Kendrick put blatant lies on some of the records

didn't Drake too? yes Drake started it yeah we gotta be honest that's the other thing that's biased I feel too? Yes. Well, Drake started it. Yeah, we got to be honest. Yeah, that's the other thing that's biased. I feel like it's like, I'm not sure if Drake started it. Did Drake free shit?

Yeah, that came afterwards. That came after the whole, you have a kid. Oh, okay. So what was the first, so every,

no, pushups, he, he takes a little jab. Oh yeah, Whitney and the bodyguard. No, that's a playoff words. Come on, stop it. No, no, no, no, the bodyguard. No, that's a playoff words.

Come on, bro. Stop it. Stop it. No, no, no. I didn't know you compromised. No, no, no. Oh, behold. I really didn't know you compromised.

Oh, behold. But Dave Free is not a bodyguard. He wanted to just, that's what Drake does. When Drake's getting at an opponent, he always, I think people figured it out by now. Hey, you're going to get at my love interest. And I think he instantly went there. This is exactly what he did to Pusha T when Pusha T revealed that he had a son.

He said, listen, it's something ring like Virginia Williams. That was again before. That was his wife. That was again before. But he didn't mention anything messy like yo you're yeah your general manager is fucking your i mean define messy he's talking about someone no no no no but that wasn't both of them kept making the allegation at that point that's what i'm trying to say and this is what we mentioned that you just mentioned this is what we said

earlier uh off we're talking about the roast and mentioning like tom brady's kids and nobody mentioned his kids because these are people that are off camera when you take people that are off camera off they're out of the pub push Kendrick keep their wives out of it they don't put them in the public you put their name in there don't play don't be like whoa where's this coming from how dare you speak on my family but you just you mentioned my family's name in a battle you mentioned my family's name negatively it's not positive you're not saying hey all respect to her i just don't like you and mentioning innocence you mentioned the civilians once you mention civilians you open it up you can't be upset when you're civilian i agree and

and that's why i think i think drake coming out of the push a tea battle i think he said to himself i wasn't comfortable with the fact that my family got exposed and the fact that I had a kid got exposed and my response would have went somewhere else. So I'm going to bow out of this one. And I think him coming in, if you listen to the energy on pushups, he even says at the end, which even though it's a play on words, he's like, he's like, I'm trying to keep it PG, but he's basically almost hinting like I'm down to really get kind of in the mud with you before i wasn't with pusha t the only thing is i don't think there's ever a response for someone saying you fuck kids like yeah it's either two things if you don't ignore it it's an elephant in the room if you respond to it they're like wait about that then they come up with all these loose narratives let's do this you're right i'll

concede that point i'll say that yeah it yeah, it's fucked up. You can paint that narrative. Let's say all allegations are false on both sides. Who's winning this battle? It's still Kendrick. No. Like that is bonkers. No, no. No. I do like this

Not Like Us record. Yeah, Not Like Us, I mean. I like this record, but I'm going gonna be honest with you the majority of this battle before we got to this was kendrick lamar sitting back and saying i'm gonna pick you part as a man the very fabric of what you portray to be you're a whole fraud you've stolen culture you're a bad parent you've made the same mistakes and you won't live up to responsibility. These are things that like he was almost picking at the fabric of Drake and you're looking at him like, damn, maybe this guy is a fraud. So now if it's just completely lies that you were.

I can't like Drake anymore, man. I really liked him because he was a good dad. That's why I got into Drake. He's such a good father. He's a family man. That's why I've been listening to him for 20 years. To me, that's a corny angle. What a great family man he is. He fucks bitches.

Are you still fucking bitches and writing bars about it? Do you still go on the yacht in Turks? I'll tell you this, though. It's aspirational living. Culturally, and this is what Kendrick has on his side. No, you're not going to say culturally. That's what they were into. No, no.

What? Yo, hey, as soon as he invoked, you're not going to say culturally. That's what they were into. No, no. Yo, Hey, as soon as he invoked, like, yo, check this out. This is what's authentic to hip hop.

And this guy, I'm going to paint him as, yo, he ran into future when he needed the clubs. He ran into this guy when he needed lingo. He ran into this guy. That was crazy. Yeah.

That, that then will make a, because hip hop is still about authenticity to a certain extent. And I think that's where Kendrick also, you know, Drake, you know, someone said this and I agree with him. Drake probably should have just kept, you know, I'm going to just give you hit songs the whole way. Let me not try to get into this whole. Hip hop is not about authenticity anymore. Hip hop is who's the best liar.

Yes. It's not really. Who's the authentic one? Hey hey why most people are young boy is rapping about killing people while he lives in a mountain get the fuck out of here about authenticity like what are we talking about but they still feel like that's authentic to a lifestyle that he subscribes to because he when he came in the game he had a suspended 10-year sentence for shooting somebody in the neck you know. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, this is the type of guy that would do that, right?

Yeah. Their authenticity still matters. And I'm telling you, the reason why Kendrick is just like an impossible opponent, unless you prove that all this pro-black shit he's been doing is fake and fraud, like, you know what I mean? Even then, nobody cares. Nah, they would. Nah, they would.

They would instantly tell you. I mean, even then, nobody cares. Like, they were instantly. That's the only way. If like if you had a record of him saying, man, fuck all this Black Lives Matter shit and all these niggas getting killed by cops. I'm just trying to get a song. Like, I'm telling you. Where are you going to get that recording, though? I think he didn't plan to do the suitcase. I don't know if he didn't expose it himself on steppers about him sleeping with white women. If Drake was the one to expose that, Drake would have won.

Do you think that would have been? Oh, man, that would have been good. That alone would have been the dagger that- Do you think Kendrick dropped that? No, and at some point, I'm going to go at it with this guy. So I need to clean out the closet. Let me get out in front of it. Could be.

Or he just wanted his 444. Not Like Us is the song of the summer. LA is back. I don't listen to Joee rogan anymore we should all move there and trying to strike a chord and it's probably a minor is the it's a much more salacious thing but is that just in terms of like that line is going to stand out is that uh world tour your girls tour that's this for this battle it's a fucking crazy hey listen i have no idea how these songs were created even though i know there was a pattern of i'm leading you guys to something in terms of kendrick but i wonder if he had this song in the tuck the whole time like this song is a bop i'm telling you he's amazing

making me yo he mentions family matters in the So either... But you could also switch out like a line. It leads you to believe either he had... Drake does have the leak and he got Family Matters early. Or he... That motherfucker can microwave. DJ Head is wrong. This motherfucker can microwave food. Fantastic.

Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. Like he... He played a mental game with Drake. A mental game of chess, where he convinced Drake, yo, all them songs like push-ups where you're just popping shit's not going to work. You're going to have to get cerebral with me. I'm going to do Meet the Grams and I'm going to give these, nigga, what sound like Jigsaw on the record? Yo, really need this, really need that.

Hey, are you ready now to play Have You Ever? I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing? And then all of a sudden when I'm thinking, all right, cool, I'm ready to put my thinking hat on for the next joint. He's like, fuck that. We back in the club. I'm like, what? And the joint is fire.

It's brilliant. Yeah. It's fire. He's prolific. And he's been around since 2014, right? Do you feel like this started with Control? These two have never really gotten along. From Control, if you ask me

kendrick always wanted to destroy drake i think he doesn't like what he represents and that's why i say the cultural part matters like there's a ilk of people like kendrick that they believe he is the true you know um not watered down MC that has gotten his proper flowers to a certain extent. And then they look at Drake to say, oh, this guy used us. He's a pop star parading around as a

rapper. And I think Drake's ego is like, motherfucker, I'm going to show you I'm a rapper. I literally said this, you guys disagree with me. It's the insecurity. He wanted to validate himself. We didn't agree with that part. That's what being a rapper is.

I need to prove to you guys. I need to show you guys I'm a rapper. That's what being a rapper and an MC is. Being the best. You have to be the best. Like, you've got to be the best. Like, another Cool J went at it with cannabis. Hip-hop's always been that.

If you have that rapper gene, you're going to engage in some of these vibes. If another comic remotely in the same stratosphere as you started taking shots, fuck you. It's over. Jay-Z didn't have to call out Nas on Takeover. Nas' career was already on the down

turn, but he wanted that number one spot, and people wouldn't give him that spot because they felt Nas rap better. He's like, nah, I'm i'm a body side note this is what i've always loved about kendrick even if i didn't the music wasn't for me like mr morales ain't for me but control when he stepped in the booth and was like i want the crown openly all you guys i love you i'll kill you if i need to i was like i fuck with that energy i've just fucked with that energy all the way so we were all i think waiting on this for 10 years. And I think Kendrick was-

Hey, let's talk about the race factor in all this. Because I think- I thought I was like- I think Drake is getting an unfair, like, it's fucked up what they're doing to him. Because he helped so many artists, like, become bigger, gave them their first number ones, gave them careers. And now he's looked at- Incredibly whack. And now he's looked at, like, oh, he just used all these people for his advantage.

Incredibly whack. And also, this is, you know, they always say like... Sorry to interrupt you. It don't matter because with everything, first of all, nothing gets changed here. All the Kendrick fans, the Drake haters, they get satisfied by what Kendrick's done. And then all the Drake fans,

they either love what Drake did or they go, he lied, so it doesn't count. Nobody moves at all. Everybody just wants whatever they feel to be valid.

I know you said that. Everybody just wants whatever they feel to be validated. It's no different than politics. It's no different than that. We have the feeling already. Everybody on the West Coast right now where it's been a minute

since the West Coast really had like a real, I don't want to say that Kendrick wasn't a top guy, but it's been a while since the West Coast really had a real... I don't want to say that Kendrick wasn't a top guy, but it's been a while since the West Coast has dominated rap in some sort of way. Everybody's fucking so excited by this. They're like, yo, we're back

on top. We fucking got this. We're the baddest motherfuckers. So their egos are satisfied. So obviously there's frustration, I'm sure, with Drake fans. Like, man, we really want to just clobber them, and we didn't get this dub. But I don't think everybody just leaves Drake as a Drake fan. They've built too long. I don't think everybody, but you said it's like politics and swing voters is what decides the winner. Well said. Right now. But here's the thing that people don't realize about politics.

Swing voters still only vote based on their identity. That identity hasn't really been swung. It's just been moved from side to side. So, for example, the swing voter, like that middle America voter, that guy, if the Republican is saying, we're opening the factory, and the Democrat's saying, we're closing the factory, they swing Republican.

If the Democrat is saying, we're opening the factory, the Republican's saying, we're closing, they go Democrat. What I'm saying is, they're not real swing. Nobody's going to change sides in this battle. You just go towards whatever your identity wants and with those swing voters as they call them their identity does not change

they just go to whoever is going to fulfill their identity the same thing happens in these we're just saying that like now if somebody was going for that top spot i'm the best so i think kendrick has swayed people to give him that crown yeah i'm gonna be honest with you if if both of them dropped an album this year i think kendrick yeah that's what's crazy without some first but i don't think i don't think it's over i don't think it's consumption right now it's like people want to see kendrick and it's gonna be interesting when he does they want to see him have the run with him finally having the crown. Right?

And Drake fans are not leaving. You know what I mean? Like, Drake fans, like, he's still going to be the guy. And that's why I think Drake should just be like, he should look at this

and be like, wait, I fucked up in giving this guy his first solo number one. And so many people are now on his side. I hate saying shit and it takes y'all

an hour to say it. I really hate saying shit and it takes y'all an hour to say it. I really hate saying shit. Is that what's happening now? I say shit and you guys go, nah. And then an hour later you just say it and I'm supposed to go, oh, you got a good point? No one actually discounted that. We're saying that wasn't the full reason. Drake still gave him a number one.

It's still a feature. Oh, yeah, no, of course. It's a feature, bro. No, no, of course. You know what I mean? If your number one comes off the diss battle from the biggest guy, it's a feature. Oh, yeah, no, of course. It's a feature, bro. No, no, of course. You know what I mean? If your number one comes off the diss battle from the biggest guy, it's a feature. No, no, I'm still acknowledging that. What I was always saying is that this guy was always either 1A or 2.

He's phenomenal. Again, that's why there's two different conversations. One is, like, is this guy, like, musically prolific? Of course. He's amazing at making music. He's amazing at making music he's amazing at rap like kendrick is i i don't even think drake would even utter the words he's bad at this like i think the reason the fact that he's even beefing with him is because he goes this guy's awesome at this i respect and i want people to know that i'm more awesome that's what he's yeah no of course but

to me that's that insecurity it's like if he just knows he's more often awesome and he has the validation of the people coming out to the shows, the fan base, the ticket sales, literally every metric except the fans of the other guy, which you'll never sway anyway. The fans of the other guy are never going to be swayed. What I'm saying is it's a misstep based on his, what I perceive as, and we all have this as performers, we're like, I just want to win everybody over. What if these people who don't like me- I think you look at it like a comic, but that's not what, like in hip hop, it's a really contact adversarial sport. What I'm saying is you could do it without dedicating the whole song, which we agreed

earlier, which is you just put out a banger that got a little few bars to Kendrick, and then you make him put out the whole song first by you putting out the whole song first I think it gives Kendrick I always thought that I always I always thought him going first but again here's the thing too Kendrick has had the patience of waiting 10 years and Drake like you know Drake told me something like because he um he just went on like an 84 city tour yeah dropped three albums went on 84 like the dude is exhausted yeah right before he just went on like an 84-city tour. He dropped three albums, went on 84. Like, the dude is exhausted. Yeah. Right?

Before he could go on vacation, this motherfucker dissed him. He wants to get this over with now. He just wants to do it now. He's like, all right, you know what? Fuck it, I'm going to lock it. I'm going to get this done. And Kendrick has the advantage of I could just play the whack-a-mole thing and be like, all right, well, I'll be back later. Yeah.

You know? And I think Drake cooked up something, but hoping to hear what kendrick was going to come with and it was clear kendrick wasn't going to drop again and he's just like yo what do i really got to do to make this guy rap like you know he's kind of posting on the gram like yo what's up any day now and he's like fuck it i guess i have to start it off however i think that played into Kendrick's strategy because he was counterpunching. If we're thinking about it, like, yo, I'm counterpunching. It looks thirsty almost. It's like, okay, you're trying to hit me with the hit song with pushups?

Okay, bet. Let me give you this layered song about how I'm about to just dissect everything you got going on. Then Drake is like, okay, all right. Let me try to play your game a little bit. And let me kind of cycle. And, oh, you're obsessed with these rumors game a little bit and let me kind of cycle. And, oh, you're obsessed with these rumors because, oh, you were touched as a child. I remember you said that on your song

and he's now doing that. And Kendrick's like, psych, I got a club hit too, motherfucker. So strategically, Kendrick played it. Oh, strategically. Oh, yeah. And Drake is a top tier chess player. Yeah, also a talent. Those little tidbits, yo, he has, I have the van, that's the replica. oh yeah he is yeah yeah and and drake is a top tier chess player yeah also like those little

tidbits yo he has i have the van that's the replica i guess it's a replica of you of that van that was on your first album cover um i i crushed it in my video oh okay the the place you shouted out for my city no new ho king i'm in there just chilling showing you that i'm the boss of this shit you know i mean like he's doing all these things that against like i always said thank god that meat meal was so fucking stupid because yeah that nigga was just playing like yeah yo he was playing like bingo like drake drake was running circles around him but but he's going at a guy who's just a master chess player that you can't even see his moves anywhere else. Like someone actually said this.

They said, hey, listen, Drake may have got a little bit of a big head. No, did he? Because of the win over Meek. And one of those things where it's just that Meek just madly and badly misplayed his hand. Apparently he was like heavily on drugs at that time. Yeah, but think about this right if pusha t had drake fall back with a rumor or not a confirmation of the child but what's the biggest like expose you could have had of a rapper to that time it would have been

you don't write your rhymes except you know how he fumbled it the nigga tweeted it out yeah three weeks before he made a song about it it's like if he revealed that on a song out the blue motherfucker you don't write your rhymes and we're like huh what are you talking about then just play the reference tracks we might look at that differently and the song sucked yeah yeah all right that's a prerequisite become a little bit of a rapper yeah yeah we're just you gotta you gotta keep this real did drake feed him that information about the the daughter because he's claiming that he fed him the information i don't think no he did i think he's just claiming what the internet is saying um the objective act i do i do believe the daughter thing. I don't believe the other things.

I didn't even know that that was up for debate. I thought it was fact that he fed the information. No. No, no, no. That's interesting. I think the other thing— A secure picture in the back of some fuzzy girl in the video saying, oh, this happens to be the same girl. I think he did feed that.

Because I could tell they were trying to recently feed like you know the other street dudes that usually hold down ovo in toronto they're getting tired of him he hasn't been feeding the wolves and i saw him randomly just beefing they're like fuck ovo yeah the tide has changed now what's up yo you better put some money in the books and i'm like okay you're trying to get them to feed into an angle and i and i i think i haven't said the drink i said i said that was your boy still man like i'm not but i'm not buying that shit the one thing i don't think that was um staged was i do believe that his father probably went on vacation with some girl and the suitcase got stolen i do things like because that doesn't why would you have prescriptions in your name and shit like that?

Like, you know what I mean? If you're trying to stage, like, I think he did a good job on Family Matters to own it, to be like, hey, well, the main back glove was in there because of me and blah, blah. That doesn't really make sense. I didn't even ask him about that, though. But then why did Kendrick remove the cover art? Well, I think it only got removed on Apple, I think. Well, yeah, you can't upload to DSPs like an actual medical script. You know what I mean?

It's like, yeah, the guy's name and address is on it. I still don't believe Drake fed him that because he would have said it right away. Yeah. Right away, he'd have been like, hey, dummy, we fed you this information. Instead of being like, oh, I got a daughter. Somebody, nobody told me. I believe he did because that is so random. If Kendrick had, if he said it so confidently,

he must have had it from some really reliable source that I feel that, you know what all these guys are doing, right? Like they're sending, they're finding out information. How do they find out information like what should they find out information on one another this is kind of fun well push a t said it push a t said everybody thinks that kanye told me no 40 40 was talking to a girl they're all smashing the same girls what i say they're all smashing the same girls a thousand girls let's get dicked down by all famous people i found out that i found out that metro booming hated drake before it was like

universally known i found that out because a chick he smashed la i smashed la and and you know we're all talking and you know nothing a girl always wants to impress you by flexing the other popping guy she's fucked with and they always just tell every detail. So I'm like, oh, this is great. Like, yeah, he hates the fuck out of Drake. I'm like, oh, shit. But then the same thing kind of came up again where people heard that. Did you find out why?

I still don't know why. I just know that he doesn't fuck with Drake. How do you know they're not using you? How do you know the girls aren't sent to smash you, pillow talk with you? Have you ever thought that academics is working for me? No, no, no. Because me and Metro don't get along.

Me and Metro don't get along. So I'm like... But what I'm saying is you could be doing stuff that you don't even realize that you're doing. Oh, no, no, no. That probably is... Like, this is a really convoluted game which I realize...

I think Future and Drake, they're beefing over women. I think that's a really simple thing to kind of... Why are they beefing over women? I'm like so like... this is such a confusing notion that guys would beef over women that they're not even trying to wife. I mean, it's not about the women,

it's about the respect. It's power and ego, though. I think it's, they're saying things to these women and then the women are saying stuff relating it back to the guys. So it's like, oh, fuck with him. So it's not that we fucks him, girl. It's like, no, no, no, I know you don't like me

because this girl told me. Is there a thing? Yeah, like a random girl that's, I don't know if him. So it's not that we fucked him, girl. It's like, no, no, no. I know you don't like me because this girl told me. Yeah, like a random girl that's, I don't know if she fucked Future, but she, being around him, when I was trying to figure out, I'm like, yo, why haven't Future and Drake been around each other?

Like a girl who's like, get invited to these little parties that they do and, you know, they're around, like fly on the wall type shit while some of these conversations was like Future, like Future was super pissed wall type shit while some of these conversations was, like, Future, like, Future was super pissed off that Drake did an album with 21 Savage.

Oh, really? Yeah. Why, because they beef like crazy? That's why I was a little confused, because, like, he did an album with you, but according to the person who I got it from, they were like, hey, he felt that Drake used him at that time to have that cultural equity within the clubs in Atlanta, because— And then Future used him to have that cultural equity within the clubs in atlanta because and then future used him to have the cultural equity within the masses and then everybody mutually benefits

if anybody future benefited more and but for them they feel like well if you're going to come back to atlanta and and do it with another rapper it should be me that's what i've heard but there's probably like a bunch of nuances I'm like so it's like high school I'm being honest it's really like high school like all of this shit is like high school

because most people who want to be famous are insecure myself included I'm not gonna act like you know most of us try to work on it but some don't

and then especially I think if you're famous young there's no need to work on yourself and there's some thought that hey some people just

like the dude fucking flying around this bitch with a jumbo jet and got a $400 million contract while these guys, they get $15 million. Which is, by the way, you know, you know, it's funny watching Drake and Rick Ross argue about money. And Drake says to him, yo. Yeah, house looks like a slice of cheese. Yeah, yeah. And he says, like, you're being Brett Barish's bitch.

Like, basically, that's the guy who owns the spirits. Ah, that Bel Air is part of it. Boom Boom, Bel Air, and all that. And if you look at Ross, like Ross will be dissing everybody in the world with the bottles in his hand.

Oh, he's always promoting. Oh, he's always promoting. He's funny, dude. Rick Ross is genuinely funny. That was one of the times I thought Drake was going on script. I think he was losing what the people cared about.

Like we like funny shit. Yeah, and we're not going to be Rick on funny. Yeah, Rick saying white boy and B.B.O. Drisco script. I think he was losing what the people cared about. Like, we like funny shit. Yeah, and we're not going to be Rick on funny. Yeah, Rick say white boy and B.B.O. Driscoll. I'm sorry. Phenomenal. And Drake had that misstep

with the whole texting his mom thing. Like, that was corny. What was that? Like, he screenshot it. He's like, oh, mom, Rick is being racist or whatever. Like, even though it probably

wasn't a real text to his mom, but the fact that he tried to put it out that way was real. Calling a guy racist. Yeah. Calling a guy racist. Yeah. Calling a guy racist, that is going to use the fact that you're not in the culture

and you're a white boy. You're kind of proving it. Yeah. Oh, I hear you. You know what I mean? Huge mister. As a white guy, I was like, that is kind of racist.

Kind of related to that the most of anything. That was the best diss I've ever seen. Hey, I think Drake should just, you know, just hit songs with us. What's the next move? What was the best diss i've ever seen hey i think drake should just you know just hit song is what's the next move what is the next move for drake hit song's way out of this now hit song meaning about kendrick or just about something else giving three lines here or there still a bitch a nice for what a god's plan yeah i'm still bigger than you hey listen you're the you're the liar that you know i gave you i gave you a couple of weeks but that's it yeah now here's the problem you put out you try to put out the hit song you try to do it and then it flops or doesn't work that's bad yeah that's bad yeah yeah but you know what drake

does best just do a collab go to one of the guys which is by the way this is one of the most interesting parts I've been looking at who still stands with Drake who's truths and sides exactly I've seen people I've seen a lot of artists who you could tell and that's what I was saying before I was saying with every

like billionaire they have the story of you fucked over like 10 people or you had to right I think I think Drake, what we're watching now, especially the silence, is a lot of people who not necessarily fucked over, but they might feel ever so slighted. You'll remember when I just came in a game and you hopped on my song and then I got a little cool and I said yo could i could you give me another verse and you left me on red motherfucker but he already put you on this is where it's like no because we're also speculating in music it's it's it's more of these genuine relationships not where you're only fucking with me when it's convenient those people become a little bit salty like yeah i'm salty at you that you you are, they feel essentially used, even though it's really mutual, right?

It's not even mutual. I mean, if you're an up and coming artist and then the biggest artist alive does a song with you, the only person that benefits from that is the up and coming artist. Let me say this. It's like. Roddy Ricch.

Roddy Ricch has had a song with Drake. It got leaked. It's called In The Cut. The real song never came out. Roddy Ricch, obviously, when he dropped the box, was one of the most popular artists on the earth. Afterwards, subsequently, his career kind of cooled down a bit. Yeah.

He just had a song with Drake that just didn't come out, though. I think he might feel a way. I think he might, you know, not not like salty but it's just like you know okay i'm not in the same space i was when we cut that record and that got leaked and come out maybe you don't want to do another record now when i see kendrick going at you i'm a little bit more pro kendrick like he's now your west coast croatee you know what i mean like yeah so so i think drake is watching and we can't really see any artists standing with drake 21 savage right just brought him on tour and sent third of course 21 fucks with drake but he's in a

he's in a he's he's stuck between a rock and a hard place he's from atlanta you can't go against future future is king in atlanta you know i mean i remember doing an interview with 21 and he told me say yo in atlanta future is bigger than Drake. Like the people of Atlanta care more about future than Drake. Right? So he can't go against future. And then his man is also Metro. So he's like noticeably absent and quiet. And Drake is kind of out here fighting by himself.

The second thing we've also not seen during the meat mill thing, when all that was going on, yo, Drake was popping up in Houston clubs, got bitches shaking their ass to back to back. It looked like he was the culture. He was what people were liking outside. And I'm watching now, look like Drake is stuck in the booth. And even though we haven't seen Kendrick,

his music seems to be outside. Everybody's dancing to the song. I don't think he's stuck in the booth. I think it looks at least Pierce, he's trying to keep the women on his side. He's popping up at Nicki shows. He's popping up at Sexy Red shows. Not during the beef. Yeah.

Recently, he was on tour with Nicki. Not on tour, but he did a few different dates with Nicki. That's after he dropped push-ups. Shit got to another. Not since this next level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's when he's winning. Since Kenner responded.

Yo, I'm winning. Yo, when you're winning. When I'm winning, I'm outside. Yo, it's a good time when you're winning. Yeah, yeah. It's a real good time when you're winning. Yeah. And it's just odd how no one is speaking up for Drake.

I think it's- So, if I'm Drake, right? Yeah. And I built- I built- The way I orchestrated my career is instead of, and there are some artists that have done this, trying to shut down every new artist that comes out out of fear that they're going to take them over, like literally trying to like squash and silence careers instead going, I'm gonna give you your first hit. I'm going to give you your first hit so that when you blow up, you remember me and we can continue to work together. And you always remember that, you know, we built something good and I'm going to put you on. And maybe he really likes putting people on. Maybe he's I mean, like I know there's look, Joe Rogan likes putting on new talent. He's done it with so many of us. He enjoys it. He doesn't ask for nothing back.

He literally just enjoys putting on people who are nice. maybe there's a part of drake like that and he's done it with so many people now when joe's going through anything he got a lot of motherfuckers like me that are ready to start swinging because we know how important he was same thing with charlotte charlotte going through anything i'm i'm riding with charlotte till the end. So it's like, if there's anything that affects any of those guys, we're riding. If I'm Drake right now, I would be kind of hurt that I put all these fucking people on,

did all these songs with these people who are really, you could say, oh, they're popping, da-da-da-da. They were no names in terms of international play before he puts them on.

Probably has made them through that millions and millions of dollars right i'm very vocal about the credit the you know who i give credit to the people who put me on very vocal right i'm sure those people in some way must feel if they're like reasonable human beings and then nobody talking nobody's speaking up i'd be tight bro well so they don't want to go against the other side and also this is what what the other side do but that's well well now you're playing politics well here's the thing too i think there's a lot of people in the industry that resent that motherfucker but beyond that they have looked at drake and they have really

maybe seen a little bit behind the curtain. And they're respected less now. What does that mean? There was a time when they felt that he was the instant. I get on a verse. It's going crazy. It's going to affect shit. Like, I think now people look at him and be like, well, what is Drake if he doesn't have a yachty next to him or if he's not riding this wave.

They don't look at him as untouchable anymore. Do you think it... I'm playing devil's advocate because, again, I'm the Drake hater on the team. Do you think it says something that none of those guys will go to Beth? Because there's nothing anybody could say about you to make me go,

I believe you, I'm going to stay quiet. I'll die for this guy you'll die for but but that's the thing is it isn't it is it not telling i don't i'm actually asking you do you think it's telling that nobody's coming you think that says something about drake more than the people you see what i'm saying nobody like is every one of these guys shitty you see what i'm saying i mean this business, you get people who are incredibly desperate for fame and they're incredibly, in our business too,

and they're willing to do, like I just had a buddy who said that they weren't going to do something or they were going to cancel something. I'm going to try to be vague here. And they were going to cancel something because doing it was getting them a lot of hate. And that thing that they were going to cancel something because doing it was getting them a lot of hate. And that thing that they were going to do is with somebody who really, I mean, kind

of put them on and give them opportunities, et cetera. But just because they were worried about their career and what was going on with them, they're like, I got to cancel it. So people are going to prioritize themselves first. But I hear the point you're making, which is like, oh shit, maybe our perception is that he's so benevolent, he's helping all these guys, when maybe they don't really see it that way? Is that what you guys are saying? Yeah, like, zero people are coming.

There should be one person, I would think. Now granted, I think you were first to support Rogan, and that helped open up. I was supposed to actually do, after his controversy happened, I was supposed to do the pod that Monday, which was crazy, but like, never crossed my mind to not do it. I was like, man, you gotta, this guy's helped out Schultz. Schultz has helped out you. He's offering you this platform.

You do this fucking podcast. There's no question about it. There's no one doing that for Drake. Zero people. And again, I am biased. And I don't know if he's a bad guy. So maybe I shouldn't present this, but he doesn't say something.

All these guys are industry friends. Like all that twin shit, like they're not really friends. And so it's like- Is there one human being, just one human being who's like, yeah, they're not really friends. And so it's like... Is there one human being, just one human being, who's like, yeah, this is a good guy.

I'm going to vouch for him. Yeah, but it's not them vouching as a good guy. They would have to go again. If Birdman is the only guy defending you, what's going on? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

The industry is against, like, all of these guys. This is a great point. Like, pull like this. If you're industry friends and the industry is against him, then you're going to side

with the industry because you see your security, safety, and longevity within the industry. Yeah, I guess. It just exposes

that, that these friendships and my twin, my dog. Metro said it earlier. Everyone has to pick a side. If you pick Drake's side, you,

you almost, well, you almost have to hope that he survives it. Obviously, he'll survive. But he'll survive for Drake. Will Drake still have that ability to help you? Because now you're making an enemy of The Weeknd. You're making an enemy of Metro Boomin.

Future. All of these guys who, there's much more that's not present. There's a whole faction. there's much more that's not even that's not present like this is a faction this is why like being able to have your own audience and create your own shit like not feeling so dependent is so important we can go to war for joe we can go to war for charlotte we can go to war for any of the people that we really care about right Because we're not dependent on the industry. The second you are dependent, the second, oh, fuck, man,

the only hit I ever had was with Metro. And if I say this, Metro not gonna feed me any more beats. And then what if I just bought a house and then my kid's in private school and shit, I won't be able to pay. All right, let me just be quiet. Yeah, you're shackled by your ties to the industry.

I'm still wondering though, what the fuck did he do to all these guys? That's what I'm trying to ask. How don't you know this shit? Well, I mean, like,

could you speculate? Okay. Speculate. Well, we've just heard bullshit reasons, like reasons that are just like very light on the surface. Fucking girls,

like, everybody's fucking Things like that, I mean, Rick Ross on his song, he said, yo, it's because you sent

a cease and desist, but like, like the guy you're mad at, like, French is still following Drake. There's a deeper issue, and I've seen Metro allude to it. He said, stop acting like the reason we fell out is because of a girl. You didn't fuck my girl. I'll spare you. He said, I'll spare us both, to be fair, because he was going to look bad, too.

To be fair to Drake. Metro, whatever the reason was going to be, he said, the reason I'm not telling you is be fair because he was gonna look bad too to be fair to drake metro whatever the reason was gonna be he said the reason i'm not telling you is i'll make both of us look bad did he say that no no yeah he said that he said he said i'll spare he says both of us but he says he says he says you look much worse yeah if i tell if i tell what it is but i'll spare both of us yeah okay so i read it as if like oh if i say what happened it's i'm gonna be embarrassed but you're gonna look like the bad guy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but but i think what we're all trying to say here is it would make drake look way worse which is why drake won't come out with it he still looks stupid yeah metro will still yeah look he'll

have some sort of negative feeling about it, but not as bad as potentially Drake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So maybe this has happened time and time again, and enough people have been affected that nobody's coming out. I didn't even ask Drake. I was like, yo. Yeah, what do you, I mean, I don't know. That's your guy's business. I don't know.

Well, I mean, and I don't think he's going to, this is probably, again, the mere fact that we've gotten two albums, a bunch of diss songs, and none of these guys have said, you did A, B, C, and D. Like, that's odd. Like, we're beefing and fighting, but we can't even address the reasons why. What Drake has told me was like, yo, he honestly just feels it comes from, like, people viewing his position. Like, you know hey the jealousy and the jealousy the fact that he's at the top he got the jet the lifestyle the you know i mean the money and because of whatever you know maybe wrong or slight even sometime if he doesn't intend it they may have just like harbored feelings for him but i still look at him like yeah no not this

amount of yeah i'm like yo it's time to get him today. There is some validity to jealousy. We all get jealous. We all whatever. But when a guy at the top writes off everything as they're just jealous, I don't fully believe that either. You know what I mean? That's not honest.

And especially it looks even weirder when you're the guy, like you're the guy that took Jay-Z's motto to Super Saiyan when you put your hand around you're the guy that took Jay-Z's motto to super sane when you put your hand around the new guy yeah like if every comic went against Joe Rogan and wouldn't say why

you would probably have to say what the fuck did Joe do that's yeah the easy thing to say is well yeah your job

is this spot but it's like well he's kind of helped all y'all yeah and that's this is a fucking

great conspiracy right here yeah no i really don't know anybody who spent time with joe will vouch for joe he's a great fucking guy blah blah blah that's not none of these who has all right has anybody vouched for drake birdman bird so yadi i'm sure yadi's been i don't even know if yadi's no yeah because yadi liked a post that seemingly was dissing the other guy and he said no it was a mistake yeah it's like bro it's your man's like you guys paint your nails together you gotta stand on it there's time like yo you get the little gel joints done together you gotta stand on it right now they just did a podcast together on the beach with it

um who's zach something kendrick said you're playing Dirty with Zach. He's a little into, or he's accusing Drake, because that's another angle that is masterful. He's defeated every possible angle Drake could go. Number one, alright, there's the angle

of, hey, the venue for this beef is Academic Stream, and he's a number one Drake fan how does this play out like you know you know what he says he's compromised like he hits everything and so the Zach Bia thing is at first this the internet lopsidedly was like yo it's Drake Drake Drake Drake and Kendrick kind of negates it by kind of like trying to air out and put into air Drake is using a whole bunch of bots Zach B is a guy who's I think he manages Yeet

but like there are these nefarious individuals that kind of make narratives happen well that's what he's alluding to you're the bot you're cooking up the bots with Drake you know what I mean and him kind of like

throwing certain things into the air you gotta listen to these songs I know you're driving me crazy he's speaking with so much authority I sent him every song

in order he did he did now to be fair I've never spoken to authority about the music yeah

I don't care you got to buddy not like us not like us is such a fucking banger. It's crazy. It is the back-to-back of this. Two minutes of song.

Give it to him. If Meet the Grams was actually all factual, it would be probably one of the biggest knockout punches we've seen. To not only reveal, and i wrote a verse to your mom explaining that this industry has corrupted her son and turned him into a pedophile let's say that's also was real which that's not real obviously yeah and then i showed how you've neglected actual real responsibility chase the worst things that comes along with fame the things that you think i'm jealous of you for till you you have not only your it's not just

like parenting it's just like you're hiding another child he's like you know he's dropping these lines like you call yourself the boy i'm gonna help you turn to the man like that's kind of like it's taking every like you just can't listen to drake just talk about yo i'm going to the club to fuck some bitches no more like this guy's basically saying this guy's a piece of shit and a creep yeah fucking rap beef it's a war with you yeah y'all want to listen to this guy crazy for the turn up i should have listened to that so when i heard that one i was like good thing it was lies i was like the whole time i'm listening yo i was like then i found out i was like, the whole time I'm listening, I was like, then I find out it was lies,

I was like, whoo, dodged a fucking bullet. Anybody ever pick me apart or expose me in that way? Dodged a bullet, man. I have to off-bust him. He picks him apart

in a way that it's like, he can't recover from. If the stuff was real, but it was lies, so we don't count that. Do you know the master's theory that Drake got a part of this larger contract

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