Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - DJ Akademiks on Kanye’s Comeback, Diddy vs 50 Cent Exposed, & Adam 22 Wife Sharing Reaction

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

yerrr, got Akademiks on for a EXTRA LONG one (pause) to discuss his conversatin with Saucy Santana, his opinions on Kanye, what's going on with Adam22, and he breaks down the Diddy vs 50 Cent situatio...n. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 00:58 Ak is Hip-Hop TMZ + Grandwizzy is WHITE 07:06 Real Saucy Santana tears + can’t fight the 94ys 21:56 Andrew might smash out Saucy 25:08 Is it over for Diddy? 34:32 We need a little racism + Trump got that rizz 36:54 Why Kyrie is so good at basketball 38:22 Do we believe Diddy? Andrew is illuminati 49:04 Diddy wanted to party party with Akademiks 50:57 Blueface is a media genius, how to monetize your content properly 57:28 Zeus is for scammers + Kardashians was more corrosive 1:01:17 Is Adam22 is a genius or into weird stuff? 1:16:09 Akademiks v Adam22 beef + business minded to the extreme 1:22:40 Let’s cry together + Ak would be best mental patient 1:26:21 Free Jonathan Majors + I'VE DATED WHITE 1:30:20 Ak ain’t no bocat + Mount Rushmore of what exactly? 1:34:33 Ice Spice is the greatest performer ever 1:38:21 Akademiks got the BIG meat + smut on his name 1:39:16 “Cite your sources” + we don’t beef with anyone 1:43:14 Charlamagne is the greatest ever v Wendy Williams 2:07:40 DJ Akademiks is nice + people chose you 2:20:43 Ak reflecting on his success + Imposter syndrome 2:25:18 Roots Live Podcast :( + creating compelling show 2:31:01 Hip-hop going through what Rock music went through 2:39:29 US Spotify Stream numbers don’t reflect success + global impact 2:48:34 Spotify strategy + streams are manipulative 2:55:17 Reflecting on Tory Lanez take 2:57:12 Ak's big gambling problem 3:05:49 Navigating livestreaming + future of Spotify-like deals 3:18:02 Joe Rogan could move audiences 3:20:06 Andrew is UP on crypto + Akaash was right 3:21:10 How much did Diddy pay Cassie? 3:25:07 Gunna’s comeback mask his “snitching” 3:26:28 Kanye will always have a place in music 3:31:14 YoungBoy v Durk = real but extremely beneficial 3:34:18 Charleston White is one of the funniest ever 3:40:26 Mysonne tried to intimidate Ak 3:44:06 Matt Rife - art outshines everything + Impact of Russell Peters 3:49:24 All men are UGLY except Big AK 3:58:43 Akademiks rates women + NO 10s 4:01:10 Beyonce = 8, Rubi Rose = 8.5 4:05:17 Akademiks curls his eyelashes + Flagrant = sus 4:08:54 50 Cent ain’t scared of nobody

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you know about the Diddy shit? I'm a little fearful because I've been looking under all my cars in case there's a bomb. He tried to blow up somebody's car and nobody wants to talk about it. Chris Sean Rock, her behavior is like an animal that needs to be euthanized. Goddamnit. I'm being honest with you. These are uncultured swines. I knew you were going to say swine, dawg.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Name your number one white person. Oh man, white people. Oh, we got to put Uncle T up in there. Uncle T! All right, so you vote for Trump, fair enough. You vote for him? Let's reverse this shit, man. You're not vaxxed, and I can fucking tell.
Starting point is 00:00:26 No, no. Look at you breathing air all good. I do think that you have a superpower when you don't get vaxxed. Kyrie Irving been playing out of his mind. I call him No Vax Kyrie. Whoa. How do you come up with that? You're not right.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Yes. What do you guys think about him? Is Kanye's run with music over? Never. Kanye's run is about to start again. I've lost over three minutes in Ozzy Hamlin. God.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Ice Spice, greatest performer living right now. Worked for 30 minutes. That shit was awesome. She had the mic by her booty. All you heard was twerk wind. It was twerk wind. What's up, everybody?
Starting point is 00:00:59 Welcome to Flagrant. Today, we are joined by Big Ack. Oh, shit. Okay, Ack-ganistan. DJ Academics is in the building. You're like, that's yours, bro. That's yours. Do I gotta give credit or what?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Yeah. I like that. I like that. I like that. Akash to the sky. Akash, my man. Listen, bro. Listen, years almost over.
Starting point is 00:01:23 There's so much happening. You are our rap TMZ. Okay. You know this, right? You're proud of me. Most information. You said you're proud of me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Good, because most information that we have probably disseminates from you or one of your pupils. Okay. Grand Wizard. That's true. Grand Wizard. That's my guy. Grandy, who we tried to link up when we were on tour in Australia, and he wasn't there. No way.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Which makes me think he might be Caucasian. Listen, and there's nothing wrong with that. Grandy, there's nothing wrong with that. Hey, hold on. Well, first of all, I hit him up. I said, yo. He got the N-word pass no matter what. Say it. Say it loud. He good. He good. So no matter what. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:02:03 He might even be cool to rock blackface one time. I might have to give it. Let's go. You're fucking inferring, Twain. Yo, he affects culture. I'm sorry. He does. This is the greatest Instagram page right now.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I think it's number one. It is the funniest page on Instagram. It's number one. And I see all the other Instagram pages copying his shit. But we need a race reveal. But we do need a race reveal. It's like the Deezus shit. Remember when Deezus was, like, pretending to be white?. But we need a race reveal. It's like the Deezus shit. Remember when Deezus was pretending to be
Starting point is 00:02:28 white? Wow, we need a race reveal, man. Oh, so you know he white. Oh, shit. You've been in cahoots the whole time? No, no. I've told you one time. You put on some cracker for this whole fucking time? If he is, this will be the black man putting on
Starting point is 00:02:42 the greatest white man since Charlemagne Tha God. I like that one. Listen, this would be the black man putting on the greatest white man since... Charlamagne Tha God? I like that one. Hey, let it rock. Let him be your Schultz, bro. That's my guy. Let him be your Schultz.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I would love for him to be. By the way, I talked to him. He's super dope, man. Super dope. He said he was in Japan. I'll fuck with him. He said he was in Japan. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:03:05 He said he was in Japan. Sounds like a Caucasian move. Sounds like some white ass shit. Some white shit, bro. Black people he was in Japan. I'll fuck with him. He said he was in Japan. Come on, man. When we hit him up. He said he was in Japan. Sounds like a Caucasian. Sounds like some white ass shit. White shit, bro. Black people stand out in Japan. He's black at heart, man. No, I think he's black. I don't even care what he is, though. Say it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I really don't care what he is. It's about what's inside. I'm rocking with him no matter what. And if he's not black, we have to get him in a trade. At least, you know, the racial draft, we got to get him on. You got to get him. know, the racial draft, we got to get him on.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Who you giving up? You got to be somebody valuable. Who's a better observer of black culture? No, no, no. Brandy or GTA? No. Stop playing with me. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Stop playing with me. I'm just saying. Brandy might be a better observer. Were you in the GTA trailer? Nah, but they probably used maybe some caricature of me. Hey, we're trading either Sexy Red or Christian on Rock. They got to go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They got to go. Can we talk about how sexy you are, bro? How much weight you lost? Stop it. How much weight you lost? I lost some weight. Stop. I'm eating a horrible.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I hate how fucking humble you are, son. Black and slimming. No, no, don't do that. Why you want to be fat? Yo. Why you want to be fat? Here's the thing. It's all about illusion on camera, my dude.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Yo, listen. It's not illusion. You walked in here. We didn't even hear you feed five folks. Yeah, right. It was like an earthquake. First of all. I made him hit the elevator.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Hold up. Yo. Tell him. Yo. My boy thought I had a Fitbit on. He said, yo, yo, by the way, the elevator is broken. You know it wasn't broken. Yo.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It wasn't broken. We were holding it up here. I get on top of you. Ding. What the fuck? Nah, you know, you did me wrong. You know it took him a while. His girl been here like five minutes before he did.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Son, you messaged me at not, wait, what time is it right now? 9.30. 9.05. It was 9.15. You still weren't here. We thought you had a heart attack. Hey, by the way, no, no, definitely not. But now that you're skinny, you're good.
Starting point is 00:04:44 No, no, no. It's the illusion. My man, you're good. No, no, no. It's the illusion. My man, you lost weight. You lost weight. Last time you were here, you didn't take the elevator. I hate when I get compliments, too. I don't think you lost no weight, dog. Thank you, man.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Keep it a bean. Yo, people like him, they tell you this shit. Is that a white thing? Is that a white thing? Nice people, kind people. It's a white thing. Nice people, kind people. That's a white thing. I'm trying to recognize your progress. I bet Gray Wizards says the same shit to you all the time. The couch is even.
Starting point is 00:05:11 No, when you go home. Last time you were here, this shit was like this. It was a seesaw. The couch is even. When I go home. What you mean? You little, bro. You little compared to this guy.
Starting point is 00:05:21 When I go home, and when I go to a family event, your parents, at least black parents, they let you know quickly. Damn, you fat. Both of them are there? Well, I mean, everybody. It could be your brothers. They'll be like, damn, you gained more weight. So you're telling me I lost it. They told me I gained it.
Starting point is 00:05:35 They didn't say you gained weight, bro. Stop lying. You have lost weight. Hold on. I'll play this. Immigrant parents. Well, they're never content. They'll be like, damn, you need to lose weight.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So you'll be like, damn, I thought I lost. That's fair. That's fair. I mean, listen, you're not Chris Hemsworth. I mean, you know who that is. You don't know who that is. I don't know who that is. That's Thor, son.
Starting point is 00:05:57 That's Thor. You're not Thor. He thought that was Chris Hemsworth. The only thing I get, like, do be getting a little tight at times with Cause they be thinking that when they see me in person Or like, you know when they tag you in a meme Like it's a doppelganger Yeah
Starting point is 00:06:12 The people be fat like Drewski and motherfucking like DJ Khaled Am I that fat? No Yes You're skinny now What do you mean yes? Cap Whoa
Starting point is 00:06:19 He's Drewski No Nah, this guy's a hater He ain't no hater He is a little bit of a hater, bro. Hey, hey, hey, listen. I started to stop. Yo, I started to stop watching.
Starting point is 00:06:29 You're a little bit of a hater. How long until Al start hating on me? Yeah, immediately. You're a little bit of a hater, bro. I got energy for you, bro. I just want to... No, it's better if you fat shame because then you're going to get skinny.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'm helping you out. Yo, that's a good point. You're going to... I will say you are. We could be enabling you right now by being kind. Yes. Okay, let me say this.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He said his parents fat shaming that shit ain't no they do it worse not gonna lie they do it they do it in the worst extreme
Starting point is 00:06:50 you will leave Thanksgiving dinner and be like I need to throw this shit up like put my finger down my throat really immigrant parents
Starting point is 00:06:58 are do they call you Fatty Boy he's not a fish he's a whale. They're watching. They're watching. Tell me this shit, is it true that you can't eat, you don't say you eat fish?
Starting point is 00:07:12 Yeah, you don't say I eat fish in Jamaica. Jamaicans will say they eat fish, they say they eat sea creature. Well, let me swim around. Fish is like a little Nas X of Saucy Santana. Yo, be honest, were those tears real with Saucy, bro? Of course. I was crying. Stop it. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:07:27 You know I'm not that. Like, you know everything is real with me. I think you're... You think I'm an actor? I think you're a... Al Hayden again. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Al Hayden again. Yo, Al. Al Hayden again. Stop it. Al Hayden again. Stop watching. Wait, wait, wait. Stop watching.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm agreeing with you. Those were crocodile tears. What is crocodile tears? Why you call them crocodile tears? You think I was like, what? Fuck no. Al's dreads are attached to his head. Yo, I'm going with you. Those are crocodiles is what it's called No So tell me with the saucy tinted dig what were you crying about?
Starting point is 00:08:10 I'm gonna be honest with you and I'm going at everybody so now seeing how slim you are, but I don't blame back. No, I'm losing the weight now. I got to get out of here. He's trying to get the weight back. Whatever he likes. Apparently, he likes BBMs. I'm like, yo, I got to get out of here. So, so. Tell me what's happening to a beautiful male. Yo, I'm trying to respond to him, but he fucked me up. Listen, let me tell you this.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I love, like, my favorite part of my life. Take me back to the moment, bro. Take me back to the moment. So, my favorite part of responding to everybody. I've gone at everybody. I mean, little baby. I've gone at some of the biggest killers. I've gone at, like, I mean, I don't necessarily
Starting point is 00:08:50 go at women, but I'll defend myself, whatever. Yeah, yeah. You're the prize. You're the prize. You're the prize. Why you hating? Why you hating? It was always the other brother. Like, yo, what's up with this man?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Crab's in a barrel, bro. Crab's in a barrel, dog. Crab's in a barrel, man. I'm green, B-Wayne. What you mean? Yo, Grand Wizard looks exactly... Grand Wizard's blacker than him. Yo. I don't know anybody blacker than Alex.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He better be with that fucking IG, nigga. He better be. What you mean? Grand Wizard. Grand Wizard chat, nigga. He better be. His IG's both, if you think about it. He's black. Grand Wizard. Do you know what both If you think about it He black
Starting point is 00:09:25 Grand Wizard Do you know what that is? Yeah Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa Wow Wow No, no, no I'm just salty
Starting point is 00:09:32 That he didn't leave Japan To come to the show That broke my heart He was in Japan He probably was So come back bro Japan not going anywhere Fly him out
Starting point is 00:09:39 Yo, yeah I should have flew you out Salty Santana That's you bro You could have flown him You could have flown him to Australia I'm on my stream And it's the first time I'm ever arguing with the guy I should have flew you out. Salty Santana, that's you, bro. You could have flown him to Australia. I'm on my stream and it's the first time I'm ever arguing with the guy.
Starting point is 00:09:52 He's gay and he's like, yo, you bopty boy. I'm like, what? Wow. Who said that to you? The gay dude. Who? Saucy. He said live that you're a bopty boy?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Hey, now you got to realize. I think it just evoked emotion in you again. No, no, no. You got to realize. He called you the B word, bro? hey you now you gotta realize i think it just evoked emotion no no no you gotta realize these are things he called you the b word bro yo listen it starts affecting my sensibilities at that point i'm gonna be honest with you like what happens like my ancestors i feel like you know like i'm gonna be honest all that shit because i'm sitting there and i'm like what could i say to him that could be hurtful because that's what i do i'm not gonna lie i'm not some of these things i'm not proud about But if I know your girl's cheating on you,
Starting point is 00:10:26 I bring it up. If I know any dirt about you when we're going at it, oh my God. If they call you a Bati boy. Well, that never happens. What does that word mean, Bati boy? What is a Bati? Is that a butthole? Body.
Starting point is 00:10:41 That is a colloquial way to say buttocks, yes. Oh, so it's a butt boy. You're a butt boy boy. A local way to say buttocks. Yes. Oh, so it's a butt boy. You're a butt boy. No, no, no. What if you like butts? Hold on. But at least he's calling you a top.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Hey, hold on. Well, you got to realize. You are a top. No, you got to stop it. That's a compliment. That's a nice thing. I'm a gay guy. He's like, yo.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, he didn't call you fish. He didn't call you fish. You got a fat ass. That's a compliment. That's what he said. If he says you had a fat ass, you would think it is a compliment. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I got no ass. I was negative ass. I was to get that kyle lowry for the long time yo hey i'm gonna be honest with you so it's it's probably the one time that like i usually take jokes and i'm usually joking most of the time when i'm clowning people all the time really upset it just felt too real when he said it to you? It's not too real. It's that it's the first time like culturally I felt offended. Because he said he was going to dig you. What did he say? Before that, I didn't even see that yet.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Before he said he was going to have sex with you in your butt. Because where I grew up in Jamaica, culturally the two worst things to be, and I said this the other night on the podcast. JLP? No. The two worst things to be, worse than a murderer, worse than
Starting point is 00:11:52 anything in the world, is gay and second of all, a bocat, which means if you do an oral sex... Yeah, yeah. No, you're the worst. Like, the worst! So when he said that to me, I'm like, that's...
Starting point is 00:12:07 Bo-cat is a Jamaican term? Yeah. What do you think the term was? I thought that was from Ilhan's podcast in England. The Turks? No, no, no. Everything originates from Jamaica, man. Everything cool in England is from Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jamaica and Toronto, those are like our cousins. You know what I mean? They come over, they get a cup of slang, and they go over there and they misuse the fuck out of it. Really? To the point that we think that they own it. You ever see that little white girl in Toronto and she's speaking like it's pretty much broken patois, which is like Jamaican language. We got a little broccoli.
Starting point is 00:12:38 We love Toronto. But take this back. Take us back to this moment. So you're already feeling sensitive because he called you a homosexual. And also— Is it a he or she? How does Saucy I don't know How does Saucy identify?
Starting point is 00:12:50 He He Sure He's a gay man He called you He has a BBL and a beard Acrylic nails I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:57 That's the sauce That's fire bro I think that's yeah That's fire bro Might have some titty implants I don't know Really? So James Harden.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Making my James Harden. He's making my James Harden. Right now. Shout out to Saucy. See, this is why I want to talk about this topic. But you brought it up. I didn't bring it up. I can't be laughing too much talking about this guy.
Starting point is 00:13:20 This is a serious topic. Wait, why is it so serious? Because the joke is going to violate you. By the way, so the first time I responded, I responded twice. What if he said he was going to bow your cap?
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yo, so I watched him say on the second one, because everyone was like, yo, why are you getting bent out of shape? You didn't even see the second half of the video. I'm like, second half of the video?
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yo, I played the second half of the video. He says, I'm going to knock you out and fuck you in the ass. And I'm going, second half of the video? I played the second half of the video. He says, I'm going to knock you out and fuck you in the ass. And I'm going to be honest with you. That is so fire. Son, imagine. Son, imagine.
Starting point is 00:13:55 That's crazy, bro. Imagine you talking shit to somebody. What are you doing right now? That's some gangsta shit. That's some DMX shit. That's so fire. You think DMX Should be fucking dudes
Starting point is 00:14:06 In their ass About three times Exactly Mike said it Mike Tyson said that I'll fuck it So you love me DMX said some horrific
Starting point is 00:14:13 Worse shit on a Listen When he said that I sat on a live stream Trying to respond to him And I do everything Off the cuff And I'm trying to create
Starting point is 00:14:22 Whatever I can say That is offensive But would affect him Off the cuff and I'm trying to create whatever I can say that is offensive but would affect him. Off the cuff act. No, no. And I remember saying to myself, what you need, it's like the drink thing. After I done exposed that you got, you're hiding a child, you better tell me
Starting point is 00:14:37 some crazy shit. So I'm about to say it and then I'm like, I just saw. I'm gonna let you. No, I saw the dollars just like floating out of my bank account. I just seen cancellation. Oh. And I was just like, it's the first time I'm like, I just saw that you know, I saw the dollars just like floating out of my bank I just seen cancellation and I was just like it's the first time I'm fighting with my hands tied behind my back Not only did this guy offend me to the core because at this point, what were you gonna say? No, no, I was gonna say nothing Yeah, but what would be be the most offended by? You like pussy you're a bokeh
Starting point is 00:15:05 I'm gonna knock you out then let anything I would have said most offended by? You like pussy. You're a bocat. What if you called him a bocat? That would work. I'm going to knock you out and let you eat my pussy. Anything I would have said, they would have... What if you knocked him out and then sat a pussy on him? I can't fight a gay dude.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Would you fight a gay dude? If he's fighting me, he's a dude. Nah. He's a dude. I don't know how he is interested in. So you'll defend yourself against women
Starting point is 00:15:20 and knock him out? No, no, no. I have a lot of you. No, no. I'm about lot of you. No, no. This guy is crazy. You can't fight a gay dude. Who says who? Listen, a gay dude,
Starting point is 00:15:30 there's no win. A gay dude, if he's violating you or if he's encroaching on your space, you got to shoot him. Thanks. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That's true. You can't fight a gay dude. Why? Because if you lose... Yo, if you lose, you definitely lose. And if you win you probably still lost
Starting point is 00:15:46 oh because now take us back to this moment where you said he's gonna knock you out and then he's gonna shoot him you can't have physical combat
Starting point is 00:15:54 with a gay dude I told you what about slap fight what about slap fight no hell no what about slap fight that's what they do what about titty twister
Starting point is 00:16:01 the strongest muscle in a gay man's body is right here they fight like girls hell no oh I thought from jerking dicks That's what they do. What about titty twisters? The strongest muscle in a gay man's body is right here. They fight like girls. Hold on. Oh, I thought from Jergen Dixon. I didn't think they'd fight like that.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, yeah, they fight like girls. Nah, nah, I couldn't do it. Oh, you think that Saucy could beat you up in fisticuffs? In just straight fisticuffs? I wouldn't give him a chance. Is that why you're getting in shape? Are you preparing for a YouTube boxing match? Yeah, I'm getting in shape to run. I'm going to be honest, I would probably
Starting point is 00:16:25 run. You would run if what? A fucking gay dude with a BBL with a full-on beard and some titties and acrylic nails. Yeah, I'm running from that, bro. Now, what if he knocked you out? How would he knock me out? Let's say, for example, he knocks you out, right? That's like my greatest fear. Wait for it, wait for it.
Starting point is 00:16:41 The last moment of consciousness, you hear Sauce, he's like, what is pastime? Oh, my God. Like, Jesus Christ. I wake the fuck up. That's crazy. That's good. Say sleep.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Listen, listen. Let's say you wake up. Let's say you wake up. No, no, no. Saucy's pulling his skirt up. No, no. Wait. What?
Starting point is 00:17:03 No. Let's just say, what are you doing at that moment? By the way, by the way, you know what? What are you doing at that moment? Why would you bring this up? No, no, no. Do you press charges? No, no.
Starting point is 00:17:12 This is why, of course, this is why I finally understood. This is why I don't believe in that woke movement. Yo, big Afghanistan. This is why I don't believe in this woke progressive movement. Talk, big Afghanistan. This is why Afghanistan is a fucking goat. This is why I'm believing this woke, progressive movement. Talk to us. Everybody's here talking about yo, you know, Cassie's in free costs. It feels bad for her. She ain't go to the cops.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I would've went to the cops. Here's the thing. This dude threatened male rap. Like, Jesus Christ. You would've got a rap kit? I don't know how that goes. You gotta go get a rap kit. You gotta walk into an NYPD precinct and be like, I need a rap kid. And they're going to be like, where's the girl at?
Starting point is 00:17:52 You got to be like, the girl is right here. You can't laugh about male rap. You see what I'm saying, man? No, you can laugh about hypothetical male rap. Hypothetically, we could laugh. That was a threat and a promise. If you said it. If you threat and a promise. But if you said... If you made it a promise, bro.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You made it a promise. That's not a promise. He said it. But that don't make it a promise. I promise is different. Did he swear to God? Shit, does he believe God? Did he swear to Madonna?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Hey, listen. Baby, who did he swear to? Imagine if I said the same thing About anybody Bro bro bro Don't do that If you say that to anybody Respect
Starting point is 00:18:28 Don't do that So that's what I'm telling you That's why tears flew down my face man I was like I didn't know how to handle it I'm like Wow I finally met the match
Starting point is 00:18:37 And it's not the killers Who claim to have 40 bodies The guy who has 30 goons The person with the The My ultimate match Was a gay dude who said he would fuck me in the ass wow and and flatlined he got it he won he won you got to give it yeah crying crying kind of proved him right i feel like you know i mean that's a kind of a bad team it's my
Starting point is 00:18:57 yo hold on it's my worst fear what's your worst fear like that's the worst fear what is it like yo listen yo i heard these rappers be like yeah yeah, when we see you, we're going to jump you, son. Like, nigga, we're going to shoot you. Yeah, like, you come here. We got money on your head. Shut up. Yo, I'm knocking you out and fuck you in the ass. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:19:16 That's my biggest fear. I'm sorry. Sorry. I cried, too. You see how fire that threat is, though. You cry? No, it's not. I literally was watching.
Starting point is 00:19:24 No, it's not. That shit was the notebook. Yeah. Bro, because I just imagine you coming to, and he's just playing with your chest hairs. Bro, stop it. Stop it. Pen your hair. Give me your twist.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yo, he's redoing your hair. Yo, these braids ain't tight enough. You know what else ain't tight? Oh. You've been through it. I was going to jump in, but I couldn't. It was too much for me, too, sir. Why would you bring this up, yo? Yo, Al, man, like, listen.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yo, I ain't jump in. You a brother at the end of the day. I ain't jump in. He is a brother at the end of the day. Ever since you let Schultz get his little weird-ass haircut, you got him acting up now, man. Yo, you have been acting up since you let me get this weird-ass haircut. You jerk.
Starting point is 00:20:03 You real fucking asshole. I won't let you get anything. Yo, stop letting me get haircuts like this, yo. This guy's an asshole. Announcement, the live tour. We added another show in Chicago. There might be some tickets left. You go get that right now.
Starting point is 00:20:16 The North America tour is happening. We added a bunch of more shows in other places. Miami, we added. Dallas, we added. We added Boston, okay? We added another one in Philadelphia. We added two more in other places. Miami, we added Dallas, we added Boston, okay? We added another one in Philadelphia, added two more in San Francisco. Go get those right now. We also have Houston, we have Austin, we have Charlotte, we have Atlanta, we have Nashville. It's wild. Go get those tickets right now if they are still available. I know we got Phoenix as well.
Starting point is 00:20:44 That's almost sold out, theandrewschultz.com. Thank they are still available. I know we got Phoenix as well. That's almost sold out. Theandrewschultz.com. Thank you guys so much. I cannot wait for y'all to see this. Peace. All right, guys, listen up. Tour dates.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I'm coming back to Europe, UK. Thank you guys so much. London shows were fucking crazy. Other two cities, I haven't done them yet. I'm assuming London will be awesome, but you know, whatever. We're recording ahead a little bit. Anyway, point is,
Starting point is 00:21:04 January 6th, 8th, and 9th, I'm going to be in Oslo, Amsterdam, and Eindhoven. January 18th through the 20th, I'm going to be in DC at the Improv. I haven't even announced those tickets on my socials yet, and they're already almost sold out. So thank you guys so much. January 26th and 27th, I'm coming to Utah for the first time in my life. Wise Guys Comedy Club, very excited to be there. Also February 2nd and 3rd, I'm excited for this. San Jose Improv is a beautiful comedy club. A lot of Indians there. I expect every motherfucker with an H1 at Silicon Valley to be at those shows.
Starting point is 00:21:34 March 1st and 2nd, Greensboro. April 11th through 13th, Tempe. Those tickets will sell out, I'll tell you right now. And we're doing it again, April 18th through 20th. I'm coming to Denver. You know what that means, A 420 show in Denver. Your boy's going to get high on stage. So go to akashsingh.com
Starting point is 00:21:50 to cop those tickets. Thank you guys so much for an awesome 2023. I can't wait for 2024. Let's get back to the show. Somebody got to hook Saucy up with you. Why, why, why, why, why? She like me?
Starting point is 00:22:00 Is he like me? You got to get the pronouns right. He'll fuck you up over that shit. Yeah. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. He'll fuck you up over that shit. Yeah. He is. Hold on. Yeah, yeah. Hold on. He will fuck you up.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Hold on. Saucy. Saucy male. At times. But from the back, what is it? What is it from the back? What is it from the back? It's a BBL, though.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Good time. Who cares? Why all of a sudden we care about BBLs when it's a dude? When it's a girl, we never care about BBLs. BBL, bro? Do you care about... Okay, would you look at Saucy and his ass? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Absolutely. Bring it up right now. Bring it up right now. Yo, yo, yo, bring it up right now. I ain't gonna lie. Bring it up right now. I had a really gay episode recently. I was talking about...
Starting point is 00:22:41 No, no, no. Not y'all. It was really idiots. It was them. Y'all were saying this guy... It wasn't y'all. It was them. He wants to fuck you. Yes. No, no, no. Not y'all. It was them. It wasn't y'all. It was them. He wants to fuck you. Yes. Not at all.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Only if they fight. I don't want to fuck you. Let's see it. Oh, you missed it. I'm pulling up the actual, the actual. Oh, shit. Mark got a great ass. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Mark got a fantastic ass. But let's see what sauce he working with. Come on, you got that. I'm not overly impressed. Nah, but that's like. Whoa. Oh on, Ack. You got that. I'm not overly impressed. Nah, but that's like... Whoa! Yo, Kosh, man. You can't handle that?
Starting point is 00:23:09 No, he's saying he could. You could. I feel like I could. That's big Ack, man. Yeah, that's big Ack as well, bro. Nah, hell no. That's big Ack as well. Nah, uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Ack has got the hammer, bro. Hey, hey, hey. The Hindu hammer. Hey, play this. You and Saucey, you make all the blogs. You know what they would call it? What would they call it? Like interracial stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They'd be like, yo, y'all swirling. The swirl. Now that's fire. Shout out to you, Saucy. Oh, put that on. Let me see that one. Oh, yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:23:38 This is crazy, right? Yo, Al, stop acting. This is your show right here. Hold on, hold on. Yo, Al, you got to stop. Yo, Al, you got to stop. This was on your page, bro. Hold on one on. Yo, Al, you got to stop it. Yo, Al, you got to stop it. Yo, hold on one second. This was on your page, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Hold on one second. Yo, Al, you got to stop it. Objectively, let's just be objective here. Go on. Press play. Let's just see ass. Objective. Let's just be objective here.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yo, that's wild crazy. Hold on. You don't think that the ass is all right? Nigga, that's wild crazy, bro. You're a hater, bro. We just talking about ass. We're not talking about anything else gay man bro so so what it's just we're just that part of a human flesh you're not down with this type of fuckery are you what do you mean this is a fake ass you don't judge fake ass rock like that indians there's 1.4 billion of us we rock every kind of
Starting point is 00:24:19 way no way have you not seen the karma sutra um There's two niggas in there? Nah, bro. I don't, like, what are you talking about? I don't know if they describe it that way, but, you know, yeah, there might have been some shit going down. Nah, shout out to Kama Sutra. Put it like this.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You hating? I'm just saying, objectively speaking, you could say if somebody has a nice ass, you can't say Idris Elba's objectively going down. All right, let me ask you a question. Idris Elba objectively? You could just perform, you could just perform,
Starting point is 00:24:42 like, Saudi Arabia or some shit. Would they fuck him? Yeah. Would they have sex with him? They'll throw that thing over the top of a building. Now you're making a statement based on facts. I would recommend that Saucy does not go there and hit on dudes.
Starting point is 00:24:59 That's what I would recommend. But we in America. We in America, bro. It's hard to get someone up in the building against their will. This one I realized, but America lets too much fucker go down, man. Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me. You talking about the Diddy situation?
Starting point is 00:25:13 I mean, everything. Like, some of this shit is just too next level. Do you know about the Diddy shit? Like, give me all the back. Is Diddy done or is this just gonna be like another? I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm a little fearful because I've been looking under all my cars in case there's a bomb. He tried to blow up somebody's car and nobody wants to talk about it. Kid Cudi.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He tried to blow up Kid Cudi's car. Do you really believe that? Do you think Kid Cudi did it to himself? Yeah, and everybody's like, look, think about this. Well, no, I definitely think he did. And also, here's the thing. You know he slapped J. Cole, right?
Starting point is 00:25:42 Ever since he slapped J. Cole, J. Cole been riding the tricycle around Tribeca for like the last three years. He ain't been in a car, not an Uber, nothing. All right. Did he slap J. Cole? I thought J. stepped to him and it got broken up. Nah, he slapped J. Cole, dislocated Drake's shoulder. It's a bad thing. Dislocated Drake's shoulder?
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. Which shoulder? You let him do that to you? To your mans. I wasn't there. To your mans, though. That's great. You said you're top two or three Drake fans in the world.
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's nice. And your mans, though. That's great. You said your top two or three Drake fans in the world. That's facts. And you just let him. The story I heard was that he stepped to Drake. He started getting a little rowdy. I don't know if he really hit Drake, but really, apparently, security broke it up. And when they grabbed Drake, they surely got this. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 But still, you got to give the defense. So can you break this? Did he slap the nigga with a kettlebell? That's a one for Diddy. With a kettlebell? Oh, yeah. Do you remember the thing at UCLA? His son's football coach or some shit like that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It wasn't letting the sun start. The dude was a bum. It was like, yo, you're not letting my son start? I'm Diddy. That's a good father. Slapped him with a kettlebell. That's a good father. That's a violent man.
Starting point is 00:26:35 That's a good father, though. That's a violent man. Probably not a great husband. Right now, everything's going on. Nobody wants to talk about him. I don't want to be a sacrificial lamb. Why does nobody want to talk about him? I don't know. Are people afraid of Diddy's influence? Is that what wants to talk about him. I don't want to be a sacrificial lamb. Why does nobody want to talk about him? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Are people afraid of Diddy's influence? Is that what this is? Duh. Nigga, I'm watching. I'm watching, bro. It is something like Charlamagne. Tell the truth, bro. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Oh, hell nah. Like, I'm on my own. You think Charlamagne won't talk about Diddy? Nobody will talk about it. Listen, I called Joe. Joe said, I can only own with this one, man. I'll catch you on the next scandal. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:27:00 What the fuck? He's hung up on me. Yeah. So, and explain the influence of Diddy, because I'm seeing people dropping him left and right. Play this. I don't know what they might be fearful of. Did Diddy kill Aaliyah? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Why he put Aaliyah on? Why is she involved in this? I thought it was like a faulty plane, but you never know. He blew up a car, you never know. I don't know. But why Aaliyah?
Starting point is 00:27:22 You tell me, Al. You tell me, Al. You tell me, Al. I just threw some words together. You made some reality out of this. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. It started with a bad year for Diddy with the Pac situation. I feel like everybody who was either not even really in tune with what was going on now has solved the crime thanks to Vlad TV. And we now—
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yo, shout out DJ Vlad, bro. I know you're upset at me, man. What'd you do to him? I think I—I don't know. I said he couldn't come on the show or something. Bring him on. I know I should bring him on. He was on Brilliant.
Starting point is 00:27:56 What do you mean? Yeah, bring him on. I think maybe it was flagrant or something like that. Not that he couldn't come on, but we couldn't do it in the time that he said. Are you beefing with my mans? Nah, I like Vlad, bro. You pin a case on you, too. Axe mad at me.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Why is Axe mad at you? I don't know. My mans from Fresh and Fit was like, yo, damn, that dude still hating on us, man. Wait a minute. What's up with Fresh and Fit? Are they still doing it? They cooling. But are they still doing the pod?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah, of course. You mean they're still doing it. You not watching? I didn't know that they're still doing the pod. Where can we watch? Do you think they died? No, I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:29 They got demonetized. You know, it was a minor setback for a major comeback. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Don't laugh like that. I was just expecting what happened.
Starting point is 00:28:38 No, but tell us. So what's going on? Like, are they still, but they're still doing the pod? They're still doing the pod, man. That's fire, bro. They got some different monetization strategies.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What else are they working on? What's their different monetization strategies?'re still doing the pop, man. That's fire, bro. They got some different monetization strategies. What else are they working on? What's their different monetization strategies? Yo, what's up with y'all, man? Yo, what's their different monetization strategies? Nah, hold on, man. I don't like how y'all... I feel like y'all been... You brought them up.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I ain't bringing them up. You brought them up. Don't be upsetting us for shit. You bring them up. Y'all praying on my man's downfall. Praying on downfall? You asked me if we watched their podcast. I'm a 40-year-old man who's happy.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Why would I watch that podcast? We're all married, bro. We're all married. I only watch it when I'm fighting with my wife. I'll be like, these guys get me. These guys understand, bro. They understand women. Four days every month that I watch that shit, probably.
Starting point is 00:29:21 It hits them when you want it to. Yo, it hits. Four days every month? On the red days. On the red days. On the red days. Red day after the pill. Can you still watch it? Do they have their own website?
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's on YouTube still. What do you think it's at? I thought the podcast got taken off YouTube. No, it got demonetized. That's a new way. What does that mean? Daddy said they can't make money. Well, yeah, YouTube is doing this new thing.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Which, by the way, I'm going to be honest with you. I think a lot of people are celebrating this just because right now it's affecting people that they don't like. But it's going to affect everybody because they're using it as a tool. Right. And it's not. They're using it for freedom of speech. They're using it for political people. Like, for example, Stephen Crowder.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Are you sure? Huh? Are you sure? What? This is all going to happen? No, it's happening now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's happened to.
Starting point is 00:30:03 So what are they saying you can't do? What is the guideline? is it i mean it yo come on fill us in bro check it out check it out you keep on bringing these things up and being bashful no because you're gonna watch how do they watch it on On YouTube Go to YouTube.com Type in Fresh and Fit Why you see this in my guys right now? And scroll to the bottom of the page Why you have this in my guys?
Starting point is 00:30:32 And give them a couple bucks yo Give Fresh and Fit a couple bucks I don't think they can get donations anymore They can't get donations? I don't Is there a PayPal or something? I thought you guys were cool with it Yo we gonna set up a GoFundMe for Fresh and Fit
Starting point is 00:30:43 We gonna set up a GoFundMe for Fresh and Fit. We're going to set up a GoFundMe for Fresh and Fit. No, you never liked them for the get-well. I had no problem with Fresh and Fit. Nah, you hated them. Yo, we brought them on the pod. We're fans. You clowned the hell out of them. Or you tried to.
Starting point is 00:30:55 We gave them a Fresh and Fit shot. Yeah, we did. Y'all did. Y'all did shit, man. Tell us the website where we could donate to them. YouTube.com. No, because they can't get donations. They're demonetized.
Starting point is 00:31:07 How can we give them money? Why are you dissing them? How can we give them money? No, Rumble.com. Just go to Rumble.com. And then we can give them money on Rumble? Yeah, yeah. You've been saying YouTube this whole time.
Starting point is 00:31:17 They've been on Rumble. Yeah, they're on both. They're on both? Yes. Oh, wow. Why aren't you guys on Rumble? Well, because we're not forced to be. Usually you go to Rumble if you're forced to be.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, no, no. But I do think we're in an age where I think you should use all platforms. I like that Tucker Carlson is putting the shit out on X. I agree. Yeah. I think you're supporting. Well, Tucker's doing it on X for a different reason, but yeah. I'm on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm on Rumble. I'm on Facebook. Yo, I'm streaming on Facebook. Tucker's not on X for a different reason, but yeah. I'm on YouTube. I'm on Rumble. I'm on Facebook. Yo, I'm streaming on Facebook. Tucker's not on X. This is high-level media chess if you want to know why Tucker's on X. Like, the highest level media chess. Break down the play.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Because I don't get it. What's my guy from my value team? He was like, yo, we offered him a hundred million. A hundred million? And that was- Oh, Patrick Beddian. Yeah, he's like, yo, we offer the motherfucker like $100 million. $100 million. And that was real. I asked him about it. Yeah, but it sounds like-
Starting point is 00:32:10 No, it was real. He had $100 million liquid. Patrick's got more than that liquid. Really? Yeah. But, I mean, I don't want to count pockets, but yeah, he could do that. I always count pockets. That's my thing.
Starting point is 00:32:18 But you don't need a liquid to offer it. I do love that you do that. Of course. I'm in rap. You got to. But yeah, you could- I think he's talking too much shit. I mean, it's public. His pockets are public. You sell a company, it's public. Oh, which company is that. Of course. I'm going to rap. You got to. I mean, it's public.
Starting point is 00:32:25 His pockets are public. You sell a company, it's public. Oh, which company is that? His company. You do some Googling later. Anyway, point is, the Tucker shit. So Tucker was working at Fox, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Fox has this insane lawsuit that they lose. The voting booth lawsuit with Dominion. Yeah. Now, how do you kill a story? You think they killed it with getting rid of Tucker? You kill a story. I thought he was kind of culpable a little bit. Well, for something else.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You kill a story with another story. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to get aggressive. He gets fired. And now everybody's just talking about. You get aggressive with the Henny? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Get in there. You ever get in a bar fight with him? That's crash out juice right there. Oh gets fired. And now everybody's just talking about. Are you getting aggressive with the Henny? Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Get in there. You ever get in a bar fight with him? That's crash out juice right there. Oh, shit. It is crash out juice. Are we crashing out tonight? We might crash out. I'm trying to say, Rupert Murdoch was basically like, yo, people got to stop talking about his Dominion lawsuit.
Starting point is 00:33:16 This shit is crazy. We have to sacrifice somebody. We got to sacrifice the number one guy in cable ratings. He was the most popular guy there that was even appealing to other people across the aisle, right? What happens, Tucker comes out, he starts to talk a little bit, right? He starts to talk a little bit. He's like, oh, this is kind of what was happening over at Fox. All of a sudden, the Washington Post gets hold of a text that Tucker sent.
Starting point is 00:33:41 They had kind of racial tones in it. Do you remember that text? Like, this is not how white people fight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, what do you think that is? I think it's racist, man. Everybody on Fox News is racist. No, that's Fox News going, behave, boy. We got all that shit. We got everything
Starting point is 00:33:59 you texted, okay? So we're just... I didn't get the text message. Because they have his phone. Company phone. They have everything on the phone. It's a company phone. Oh, it's a company phone. It's really stupid to text
Starting point is 00:34:09 from a company phone. So basically- You gotta be racist on the company phone. But who do you send it to? You don't put that text out on your platform because no one will believe you.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You put that text out on the opposition, Washington Post, liberal newspaper. Everybody gotta believe it if it's gonna be dropped on a liberal newspaper. This is like high level media warfare. This is why- I'll fuck with Tucker, though.
Starting point is 00:34:34 No, Tucker's interesting. Tucker's very interesting. I like my white people with a little bit of racism. They keep it real. Go on that. If white people- Grandy. No, no, no. Stop playing my- Hey, if white people- We love you, Grandy. No, no, no. Stop playing my... Hey.
Starting point is 00:34:45 If white people are too much like black people, I think it's fake. Something's up. Bro. As soon as I see Hillary with the hot sauce in her purse, get her out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I agree with you. Yo, I like my white people with a hint of racism. I used to tell Charlie... That's my guy, Trump. That's my Trump's my guy. I used to tell Charlie... He keeps it a bean.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Look at his pocket. He does. He lets you know, he's like, yo, I'm cool with the blacks. I'm like, yo, I get it. I used to tell Charlie. Like, he keeps it a bean. Look at his pocket. He does. Like, yo, he lets you know, like, he's like, yo, I'm cool with the blacks. I'm like, yo, I get it. I get it. That's my thing.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I dapped him up. You have seen. I saw that. I saw that. You were hyped or what? Yo, the first thing I dapped him up. Did he know you? Hell nah.
Starting point is 00:35:15 But the first thing when I dapped him up, so I'm like, yo, so I'm just like, just like trying to bring it like the, so I said, yo, you pardon Kodak Black.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And the first thing he says to me is like, yeah, I did that. Then he tells me the other things he did. He's like, I got back A$AP Rocky. And I also pardoned Lil Wayne. What he said in the most whitest voice ever. Yes, Lil Wayne. Exactly. And I was like, yo, I like him, yo.
Starting point is 00:35:38 I'm voting for him next time. So he got you with the charisma. Yeah, yeah, of course. But he's real. Like, anybody who's too fake that seems too loving. like, we all got little biases and prejudices, okay? And it's normal. Obviously, it's normal. You got to be a little racist so people know you're not racist.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Facts. That's how you get me. You got to be a little racist so people know you're not racist. If you seem like, I think Joe Biden's the most racist motherfucker ever. Joe? Yeah. He dropped the N-word in the Senate. Well, I mean, they try to act like
Starting point is 00:36:05 he grew out of it. Like, yo, he's so old, he probably forgot. You know what I mean? But he, I think... Then you get so old, you start just doing it because you forget things.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Like, he might forget that he can't say that word. Oh. I think that's the only thing... Who are we voting for up here? Y'all can tell? I don't vote. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:21 What the fuck? You a citizen? Yeah. Valid question, actually. Who you voting for? Biden or Trump? Who you voting for? I got Trump, man, all the way.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Trump 2024, of course. Low key? I've been calling him Uncle Trump. Shout out to my man, Kodak. You going RFK? RFK. That's some soft shit, bro. Son, his voice is fire.
Starting point is 00:36:43 I want to hear that for four years. Yo, what's up with his voice? Real talk. He's S-cap. S-cap. That's smoking soft shit, bro. Son, his voice is fire. I want to hear that before you hear it. Yo, what's up with his voice? Real talk. He's S-cap. S-cap. That's smoking like cigarette smoke? No, no. I think you get like when you're unvaxxed, I think that's what you sound like.
Starting point is 00:36:54 No, no. I'm unvaxxed too. You didn't get vaxxed? Hell fucking no. You got vaxxed? That's what I'm talking about, bro. You ain't get vaxxed. I got the first one.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Oh, gosh. I got vaxxed. You speak it tall. I got vaxxed. I got vaxxed. Wait, y'all got vaxxed? We all got. Hey, we all I got Vax. Wait, y'all got Vax? We all got Vax. Hey, we all got Vax.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Damn, y'all might give me some shit. We did projects with reputable companies. We all got Vax. I mean, he did some stuff. Hey. I ain't gonna lie. I was faking paperwork and everything. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:37:17 We would never do something like that. No, we can't do that? To do reputable projects. Yeah. But you, you are, you're not Vax and I can fucking tell. No, no. Look at you breathing air all good.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, slimming down. I do think that you have a superpower when you don't get Vax. Like Kyrie Irving. Like Kyrie Irving been played out of his mind. I call him No Vax Kyrie.
Starting point is 00:37:35 You know what I mean? Whoa. Wow. How you come up with that? That was crazy, bro. Take us through the process of that name. Like how you came up with that name.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Take us from square one. Hey, listen, fuck the name, man. Listen, I'm not vaxxed. I wasn't that opposed to it. I'm really just scared of needles. I'm not even that. I don't even stand on principle. I don't even stand on business, man.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I was just scared of needles, so I didn't get it. Can you kiss? Yo, if the vaccine came. He doesn't want to get penetrated. Yo, Jamaican, get penetrated. Hey, if that vaccine came with a nice't want to get penetrated. No Jamaicans get penetrated. If that vaccine came with a nice little pill that was candy flavor, I would have took that bitch in a second.
Starting point is 00:38:10 You would take it? So you would prefer orally is what you're trying to say. I don't know what you're talking about. That's kind of what you said. He prefers candy. He wants candy. I think with sugar on it. He likes something a little sweet.
Starting point is 00:38:20 All right, so you vote for Trump. All right, fair enough. Hold on, hold on. Let's reverse this shit, man. Back to Diddy, man. What y'all think about Diddy, man? Hmm. Look at y'all over here.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I think he did all that shit. I'm trying to give you a full answer. You think he did all that shit? I think he did all that shit. Wait, what is all of it? What is all of it? Everything Cassie said, everything Kid Cudi said, everything everybody else won't say, he did that shit.
Starting point is 00:38:41 You got a car? Yeah. Yeah, 2011 Honda Accord. What's up? Blow that shit up. I was going now yeah 2011 honda accord what's up i was gonna say he did all of it and i think people lie but i think i think once you start i think there might be things that he did do and once you have been abused by something or somebody, every other behavior is also abuse. Bruh, that was long. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Starting point is 00:39:11 In other words, he did some fucked up, let's say, for example, hypothetically or allegedly, he did some fucked up shit to Cassie, right? Yeah. Horrible, abuse her, beat her, do that kind of shit. Now, allegedly, now let's say they're having a party and there's another dude there,
Starting point is 00:39:29 and all of a sudden he's like, yo, fuck that dude. I don't know if he's going, hey, you have to do this and don't do anything but this. He might think, yo, we just parted and this is what we do. We're on some freak shit. But once she's experienced abuse, now she's like, all of this is abuse. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:39:45 Listen, I ain't gonna lie. This is why I'm glad I'm not too much in the industry. Diddy DM'd me over, me talking about his side chick, calling her a side chick. Which is a side chick? Young Miami. I was fucking up his pimp game, because you know, he got a rotation like 50 bitches, but he's a billionaire. He's supposed to. So when I was clowning her
Starting point is 00:40:01 and she was in her feelings and shit like that, I guess she was like, yo, yo yo this guy keeps calling me a side chick which she is but you know what I mean whoa whoa whoa why is she a side chick why can't she be the main
Starting point is 00:40:11 and the other ones are side chicks come on man she's a damn side chick man he had a baby on her had a baby on her like you know what I mean like come on
Starting point is 00:40:17 where do you learn this stuff like how much do I have to donate to Fresh Infant to learn this this is so cool this is so cool you seem so cool. Where do I donate?
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's rumble.com slash fresh and fit. I'm on rumble too. rumble.com slash academics. I'm not donating. Yeah, but you don't need the money like that, bro. Come on.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yo, this is big ass. Bust down. Frozen Santos. Bust down Santos. You got the Dini might be after me. Hey, I got to tell you the story. This is before all this shit happened. And listen,
Starting point is 00:40:46 y'all are like industry motherfuckers at this point. We're industry, bro. We are part of the industry. We're part of the industry. I am the blue pill. Okay, yeah. Well, your headline in Madison Square, I could tell you have went to the Illuminati. I mean, me?
Starting point is 00:40:59 I'm one foot in, one foot out. I'm still streaming in the basement. Can I just clarify something? I'm still streaming in the basement. Can I clarify something? Trust me. I'm not the guy who they're like, hey, bring him to the Illuminati. You said I'm headlining Madison the basement. Can I just clarify something? I'm still streaming in the basement. Can I clarify something? Trust me. I'm not the guy who they're like, hey, bring him to the Illuminati. You said I'm headlining Madison Square Garden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But you didn't clarify how many times. Yeah. I was going to. How many times is it? It's two shows. God damn. So don't ever. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:41:20 I stay on business when it comes to that shit. You have to sell the booty for that one. Say again? When you get to that level. I sold my booty? Yeah, you got to sell to Saucy. Wait, Saucy holds the keys to the garden? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:30 That's all I had to do? I did all this work all this time in my life? You never got offered to sell the booty before? No. I turned it down. You took it. Wait a minute, you got offered it? Well, listen.
Starting point is 00:41:39 What was the offer? Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is when you were weighing how much? Because that's different. Because that's different. Because that's different. Because if you had the fucking wagon, it's a different situation. I've never had a wagon. I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Stop it, bro. I saw you. Stop it. Weight usually goes around my belly and my thighs. I always had a flatty. You would know. For real, man. Who flattened it?
Starting point is 00:41:59 Damn. Now, did you get off of this before or after he DM'd you about Young and Light? No, no, no. But I do want to say this. Yeah. I got to tell the story for my own safety. Yeah, tell it for your own safety because this is heartbreaking about Diddy. I've been a big Diddy fan my whole life.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So, I'm in London. I go to London for the first time. Yeah. How was it? London was kind of cool. It was definitely not American. Why don't you? No.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Shit. God damn. Yo, Act, you on it. Act, sometimes you're the most brilliant person that i've ever met thank you and sometimes you be saying some shit that absolutely makes me sigh with saucy what that right there made me sigh with saucy for a moment how you said london ain't america i mean that's that's like an obvious i call him novak's Kyrie. That's what we call him 2K. Anyway, anyway.
Starting point is 00:42:47 So I'm in London. Diddy had previously hit me up to say, hey, listen, stop fucking with my side chick. Basketball nickname. Earl Monroe. Earl the Pearl. Black Jesus. Novak's Kyrie. And you're Novak's.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Do you see the drop in creativity? No, Novak's Kyrie works. Like my dude is going to do some extraordinary things because he hasn't been vaccinated. Come on, stop playing. Anyway, so I'm in. Hold on. This all makes sense. Fast talking.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Fast talking. I love that. He's good. He's good. This guy's good. This guy's good. I got to say the story, okay? Say the story, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Check this out. So I'm in London. Yeah. London is cool. Great vibes. Okay. I love the taxi cabs where you can face the other person you're with in the car. Cool.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Now, one night I'm trying to go out, okay? Now, they tell me I love Afrobeats. They're like, yo, we're going to an Afrobeats spot. But also what happened is Diddy's in town. Never met Diddy. Never been around him. Are you excited to meet Diddy? I wasn't trying to meet Diddy.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Why not? Here's my thing. I stay away from these industry motherfuckers. You know why? I've had people literally tell me they avoid Diddy prior to all of this. No, I avoid everybody in the industry. Like, friends, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I don't fuck with Diddy.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Like, I don't want to do anything with Diddy. And I was like, why? Because me growing up, I was like, oh, shit, Diddy is one of the most successful human beings in the history of business. He seems cool as hell. He seems fun as hell. He ran a marathon for no reason.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yo, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, this guy's awesome. Yo, the majority of why, like, even this industry this industry has creeped me out like even recently why when i first if you if you have to say when i came in contact with industry when i joined everyday struggle joined everyday struggle and we'd have a bunch of guests and that's what i met a lot of people in in the industry when i'm talking to them like yo damn what is it like what's so and so like what's so and so like i swear, like, 50 stories about Diddy. Yo, Diddy did this, Diddy.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Like, crazy. No way. I swear. I swear. Can you say the craziest story? Huh? Can you say the craziest story? No, like, people would be like, yo, you know, so-and-so, you know, Diddy come, like, Diddy
Starting point is 00:44:39 invites him into so-and-so, got a towel, like, he's in his bathroom, towel around, whatever. The dude says, like, yo, his bathroom towel around whatever the dude says like yo did he try all the type of stuff i'm hearing from people like random people it's not like everyone's like oh let's all tell act these stories but you know i'm a curious wide-eyed kid like you'll just tell me like you know but you're hip-hop news why you didn't report on it because i've always asked those people why are you telling me this it's like a behind the scenes thing if you tell me something on the scenes i'm not gonna go report on people, why are you telling me this? It's like a behind-the-scenes thing. If you tell me something behind the scenes, I'm not going to go report on it. But why are these people sharing that out of nowhere?
Starting point is 00:45:08 No, no. Because you've seen a few of these pop up. No, no, no. What was it? Desi Banks was doing a pop-up, like, walking in there. It's not nowhere. Jay Pharoah. And you haven't seen that clip?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yes. He's like, do you have any advice for me? And Jay Pharoah goes, stay away from the take that, take that. This is a comic. What's that about? I've been to a Diddy party party and there was nothing crazy going on. You ugly. We don't all look like
Starting point is 00:45:29 actors, but I'm just saying. You must have got the wagon like saucy. I thought you were handsome. Six degrees of separation. Speaking of six degrees. You're just an ugly motherfucker. Speaking of six degrees of separation.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Keep that. Keep that, keep that. Continue listening to it and say, keep that, keep that. Yo, six degrees of separation. Diddy, side chick is Carisha, young Miami. Young Miami's best friend, saucy Santana. Freak off. Bang, the Triangle Trilogy.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Think about it. Anyway, I'm in London. I'm chilling I'm chilling. It's brilliant. So now I'm chilling. I'm thinking about- Even the way he did that fucking humbity-pah-thity, humbity-pah-thity. Triangle, boom. That was fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah, I like that. Are you trying to say right now that Diddy and Young M.A. Not Young M.A. Yo, wait, hold on. What is Young M.A. got? Young M.A. Sorry, I missed one letter.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I missed one letter, bro. Come on. Miami M.A. got? Young M.A. Sorry, I missed one letter. I missed one letter, bro. Come on. Miami M.A. is different. Listen. Yo, shout out to Young M.A. So I'm in Miami. Remember, the last time I ever talked, like, Diddy reached out to me.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Would you fight Young M.A.? Young M.A.? Why would I fight Young M.A.? Alex. That's my people. No. Yo, he got a nickname for Young M.A. Alex, you fight girls? You wouldn't fight a gay dude.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Does he fight girls? No, you wouldn't fight a gay dude, but I'm saying if there was a girl who was like a dude. I don't fight girls neither. Yo, you don't fight girls? You wouldn't fight a gay dude. Does he fight girls? No, no. You wouldn't fight a gay dude, but I'm saying if there was a girl who was like a dude. I don't fight girls neither. Yo, you don't fight girls. He loves young M.A.O. But some of you say, there's a dude, but you wouldn't fight him. Young M.A.O. is this shit. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Young M.A.O. is this shit. You're not telling my fucking story? Yeah, bro. God damn it. Tell me your story. That shit looks like some Casey Neistat shit. That look racist. Shout out to Casey.
Starting point is 00:47:23 That's my type of racism right here. Why you put racism on Casey? Any white person that's a little bit too pro-America is... No, we not going to do that to America. No, no, no. When you too pro-America... If you're too proud about the country... Come on, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:39 We not going to do that to America, bro. This is a red, white, and blue... Red, white, and blue freed... Can I say one thing? Red, white, and blue is slavery. That's what bro. This is a red, white, and blue. The same red, white, and blue freed. No, no. Can I say one thing? Red, white, and blue is slavery. That's what they used to be. These red, white, and blue fought to free black people because the other ones wanted a different country where they could own black people.
Starting point is 00:47:53 This is the free black people side. Y'all haven't hung a flag outside your crib since 2001. Who? Stop it. Who? Y'all did that for a couple months and then you stopped it. What flag? Yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:48:03 You can't claim to pro, like, you know what I mean? Yo, you have the racist mustache. Nobody loves America more than me. Nobody loves America more than me. I know you love America, but you love America without black people. You gotta shame that mustache and whatever you got. I love the America without black people. And you gotta turn that into a fadie. Why you ain't tell me to do that?
Starting point is 00:48:20 I love the America without black people. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. You have the hip look. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. You have the Hitler. Don't make me ask you to take off your hat. Yo, take off your hat. Let me see the little twist.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Listen, listen. You have the Hitler mustache, and then you didn't fade the sides. Today was a bad day. That was racist. Today was a bad day. That was racist. Let me see them take off their hat. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Let me see them struggle fucking braids. I'm getting my hair done tomorrow, too. By whom? Who did that hair? Sorry, I'm playing. Yo, get out of here. Hey, can I tell my fucking London story? Yeah, tell us.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm trying to go out. Come on. I'm trying to go out. You know why we still not part of the London? Okay, okay. You're racist. Anyway, so I'm in London. I'm trying to go out for the night.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I'm thinking about, you know, I'm into like the Afro beats. I'm thinking about going to the Burner Boyz spot. But there's a Diddy party going on too. He's there with Giggs. I'm like, nah, whatever. I just want to go to the, I'm telling the people I'm with. I'll go to the Afro beats spot. They come back to me, 20 minutes, they said,
Starting point is 00:49:21 Afrobeat spot. They come back to me, 20 minutes, they said, hey, we have gotten a request that Diddy wants to party with you. Did he say party, party, or just one party? Freak off? Nobody knows about a freak off.
Starting point is 00:49:37 Can I ask you a question? If he asked you to have a freak off with Cassie, and Cassie consented, smash Cassie, but Diddy watches, would you do it? No, I don't do that type of stuff. You wouldn't smash... I'm going to be honest with you. It's Cassie, bro. No, no, no did he watches? Would you do it? No, I don't do that type of stuff. You wouldn't smash- I'm going to be honest with you. It's Cassie, bro. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Hold on. I'm going to be honest with you. She consents. No, no. Fuck all that. Cap. You wouldn't let your mans watch? Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Fuck all that. Cap. This shit was so alarming to me, and it actually fucked up my whole thought about the world. Adam 22 hit me up and he said, remember when you said me letting my girl get fucked by another man who was some white people shit? What about this? I said, oh!
Starting point is 00:50:14 Racial draft. We got to get him out of here too. Oh no. Get who out of there? Diddy. I ain't going to lie. Wait, why are you trying to put him on? Wait, wait, wait. Why are you trying to put Diddy on us? All the weird niggas is all white. All the weird niggas is all white. Why are you trying to put Diddy on us?
Starting point is 00:50:26 All the weird niggas is all white. White? That's white people stuff. Who are the weird black people? Who are the weird black people? White people would be like, yo, listen, I love my girl to death. I will die for her, blah, blah. Listen, like, yo, we took blood oaths and all that dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:50:41 And I'll still let you fuck the shit out of her while I watch and I film with a VHS tape. That's white people shit. Black people, we don't admit to our shit. Y'all got to admit to y'all shit. That's your shit. What is y'all shit? I don't know if we've done that that much. White people don't do that. White people do that.
Starting point is 00:50:57 What's the network with Krishan and Blueface? That's our shit. Yeah, that's our shit. That's the worst of our shit. Yo, fight at award shows, fight at church. Embarrassing's our shit. Yeah, that's our shit. Yeah, fighting. That's the worst of our shit. Yo, fighting at award shows, fighting at church. Embarrassing, rancid shit. How much of that is
Starting point is 00:51:11 understanding media? Y'all want to be honest with you? I think he might be just a genius and understands media. Blue face. Nah, bro. And if he has Krishan on board with it, then this is one of the greatest manipulations in history of us, not of her. I think he's figuring it out, but he's realized his music career is kaput.
Starting point is 00:51:33 He knows the real currency. And I realized that quickly too, right? So for example, I'll give you a quick history lesson. I'm boring you. I started my Instagram pages because of Shade Room. And I remember saying, well, if you guys like the baby mamas of the rapper and I'm covering the rapper, you're covering the baby mamas, I'm covering the rapper, I'm going to be bigger than you. Let's fast forward to the current day. Shade Room, 30 million followers.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I got six. People care more about the women and the drama. No, people care about relationships. Exactly. And women are part of a relationship. Okay, so here's the thing. Get saucy. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Get saucy out of here. So now I'm covering Blueface. I'm covering Blueface, who now is like, you know, in hip-hop turns like, okay, you're not new anymore. It's old. like, okay, you're not new anymore. It's old. He has a way better upside of getting his baby mamas
Starting point is 00:52:29 to either create drama or get them as musicians. But you have to give credit to somebody who, listen, okay. No, I give him credit. What I'm just saying is remove, okay, you can have an opinion, not you. One can have an opinion about the content. They can be like, I disagree with the content. I think the content is immoral.
Starting point is 00:52:46 So you could say that. In the same way we could say about the Kardashians. I think the content is immoral. But you could also go, the architects of this content and storyline understands human emotion and how to manipulate it and how to garner attention. So I can't sit here and say that Blueface doesn't know what he's doing if I know the details of his relationship with his two baby mamas, and I'm not even a Blueface fan. I'm tapped in.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I know Kashawn got her tattoo covered. I know he's saying the baby not his. My only problem with that is monetization strategy. So you're saying he can't monetize it as effectively? Yes. So I look at it and I say... And if he could,
Starting point is 00:53:29 what would you say? Genius. Genius. By the way, he's a genius at creativity. I look at him as really subpar in terms of...
Starting point is 00:53:39 Like, for example, I think he should do fuck Zeus. Like, no disrespect. Lemuel is my guy. The guy who owns the network. He's black, you know what I mean? Black power.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Anyway, we got to keep it going. Hey, listen, you bring the racist vibe. We got to go. I don't think my guy's- That was the weakest black power show. You might be racist. You had a sauce. You saw his wrist.
Starting point is 00:53:59 You saw his wrist. You didn't hit it right. You really hit the saucy with that one, bro. The wrist broke. You got to fix the wrist. Fuck. Shut up. It's the lowest common denominator of blackness, so you still got to big it up, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:54:10 I don't really want that. So, you know. Hey, the only thing I will say- I have a comparison for that, and I am curious if you- Real quick. Do you think Italians feel about the mafia and mafia content the same way black people feel about Zeus Network. I think mafia content makes Italians look fire. So fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:54:33 No, no, no. We don't look fire. No, Zeus doesn't make you look cool. Gangster rat. Yeah, nobody looks that way. NWA or whoever that is. Play this. I guess what I'm saying is there's immoral behavior. There's immoral behavior going on.
Starting point is 00:54:46 It's like saying that white people like when rednecks are shown on TV. Oh, it's Honey Boo Boo. Yes. Honey Boo Boo. Yes. Okay, okay, okay. That's fire. Mafia, there still is a code.
Starting point is 00:54:57 They take care of their family. Exactly. And there's like brotherhood. All these things that on a primal level, we fuck with. Taking advantage of innocent people, manipulating them, taking their money. Yeah, but if you're a familyal level we take advantage of innocent people manipulating them taking their money like but if you're a family man we'll forgive so much i think we've sold been sold a lot yes i agree with you on this i think we've been sold this this lie of family but there's a lot of families that are not cared about it but it doesn't even matter because it's so romanticized
Starting point is 00:55:18 especially tv and film and we love it so much and we look at the way that they treat each other and that brotherhood that they have like the godfatherfather. Oh, my God, I want that in myself. Okay, fair enough. And this is, okay, but you're saying this is some like, this is hillbilly white shit. Dance moms or whatever that shit is. My only problem with it is that their life is 24-7 a reality show, but the reality show only films a certain once a year. So they're constantly creating this content, but they're not necessarily getting paid for all of it. So I look at it, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:55:48 why not go do what Kai Sinatra's doing? Just live stream it all. Just do IRL streaming. Walk around with a camera. You can get donations. Have certain things where you need to be a member for or whatever. Rather than getting pimped out by
Starting point is 00:56:03 even though it's, you know, another, you know, black entity, but I think Zeus is pimping him out. Yeah. I just think Blueface just hasn't figured it out yet. So the same.
Starting point is 00:56:12 He hasn't figured out monetization. He's figured out attention. Yes. He knows how to get attention. So he's doing what Kardashians do, where it's like, hey, we're going to have this big thing happen in our lives.
Starting point is 00:56:19 We'll cover it on our Instagrams. And then you're going to tune into our show to see it unfold after the fact. He hasn't monetized both the beginning and the aftermath. I'll be honest. The monetization is easier than the attention. What the Kardashians also did brilliantly is keep climbing upward socially. Like getting with Kanye is one of the greatest business moves. We're not bigging him up.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Hold on, hold on, hold on. What are you doing? I'm just saying. These people are the lowest of society, though. It's like the roaches and the rats. It's like we're not lookingging them up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What are you doing? I'm just saying. These people are the lowest of society, though. It's like, you know, it's like the roaches and the rats. It's like, we're not looking at blue face. Like, Chris Sean Rock is like, like, I've compared her to like, like, her behavior is like an animal that needs to be euthanized. God damn.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I mean, honestly. God. Damn. She's a doodad. Mark, you've been quiet. Stop. She's an uncultured swine. I knew you were going to say swine, dog.
Starting point is 00:57:12 That's crazy. It's another animal. Can you explain the behavior? Break it down to me. This wizard might be grand wizard. No, no. That's what I'm saying. She's a great animal.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's wild. Shout out to Hennessy. Shout out what I'm saying. It's repulsive. Shout out to Hennessy. Shout out to Hennessy. It's repulsive. Put it like this. I think, you know, it has a negative effect on especially people of color.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Do you subscribe to Zeus? Yes. No, you don't. Be honest. We have a family channel. We have a family. See, I see your cabin. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Here's the thing. No, I did not. No, no, no. I have done that. Essence Festival is completely. We have a family. See, I see your cabin. Hold on. Here's the thing. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I did not. No, I have done that. Essence Festival is completely different than what this is. Which is so disrespectful to even compare those two. Oh, I'm just trying to pick it. I've never been to Essence Festival.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, clearly. You've clearly never been to Essence Festival. Yo, Zeus Network. That's cool. I'll take it back. Yo, Zeus Network. Yo, Zeus Network is for people who are scammers, steal cable. Like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:04 People who shoplift. That's not true. It's for the very. That's not true. Stop it, brother, you know what I mean, people who shoplift. That's not true. That's not true. Stop it, brother. You would imagine the type of people that love Zeus. Like, it's regular,
Starting point is 00:58:10 everyday motherfuckers who just want to... Yeah, but it's voyeurism in the sense of... It's voyeurism, yeah. I'm voyeuristically looking at a bunch of zoo animals acting like, you know...
Starting point is 00:58:20 Stop talking about our people like that. What? It's like, stop. Imagine if a white nigga said some shit like that. No, no, no. Stop it. The whites talk about white people like that. What? Stop. Imagine if a white nigga said some shit like that. Stop it. The whites talk about white trash like that. We do.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Keep it a buck. Shut up. How do we talk about Florida? If you talked about Zeus. Talk about Florida like that every single day. If you talked about Zeus like that, no, you're good. Thank you. If you talked about Zeus like that, you're good.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Okay. Couldn't you argue the Kardashians had a worse impact on overall society? No, no, no. We hear this out. I know where you're going with this. Kardashians had a worse impact on overall society? No, no, no. We hear this out. I know where you're going with this. Kardashian tried to levitate. These people, they only gained more views by going deeper. Yeah, but the Kardashians levitated always at the expense of other people, usually black people.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Kanye went crazy. Okay, yeah, all right, no. Hold on one second. I agree with that. Can I just say one thing? How different is Khloe Kardashian's story arc from Krishan Rock and Blueface's story arc? You have a man. Well, in this case, she was potentially unfaithful.
Starting point is 00:59:12 But in the Kardashian show, which is this elegant thing that you're describing and it's completely different. Khloe and Tristan are there. Tristan is admitting to cheating, fathering a child with his trainer or some other thing. They're talking about this on the show. Yeah, maybe the fucking camera work and the houses are a little nicer, but it's still this. It's behavior. The behavior is the same. It's infidelity.
Starting point is 00:59:35 No, no. Oh, because Khloe has her front teeth? No, no. You fucking bigot? Yes. Oh, okay. Yes. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I'll take that. Hey, listen. Infidelity. Hold on. Inf, I'm sorry. I'll take that. Hey, listen, listen. Infidelity is called. Infidelity. Come on. Infidelity will be seen among any race, any group of people doing this shit. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:00:01 What was Zeus and these people are teaching you to do. Would you be with a girl? Yeah. And this is my thing. I'm married, yo. Imagine your wife then. Don't talk about my wife. Let's do a hypothetical again.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Let's do a hypothetical again. Imagine I wasn't married. It hits too close to home. This show and the culture that they're providing Did you just say hits at home? I'm not kidding. Allegedly. Allegdy. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Allegedly. Many times allegedly. Yeah. God damn. What I said. Many men. Many men. Everybody keeps saying, yo, Diddy's going to sue.
Starting point is 01:00:37 I'm like, he ain't going to sue. The fuck? Like, yo. All right. Come on now. So we seen Cardi B do it to Tasha? Like, it could easily happen. Tasha K said, hey, you have herpes and you drug men, which is no one says that.
Starting point is 01:00:53 You're just making something up that's completely arbitrary. I think you're guilty. We're all saying, hey, we're seeing allegations that you beat the brakes off of this chick. Hatter and Freekos sucking off 50 dudes. Swear the brakes. I don't know what the brakes off of this chick. Hatter and Freecause. What is that? Sucking off 50 dudes. Swear the brakes. I don't know what the brakes. But hang on. A woman getting the brakes.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Is it just like, I've been waiting until I got here to ask Mark and Andrew, because y'all are white. Yeah, we're white. I just want to know. We're white as fuck. because y'all are white. Yeah, we're white. I just want to know.
Starting point is 01:01:23 We're white as fuck. What does a individual get out of seeing their significant other getting railed by dozens of men? I'm serious. Are you laughing? Are you asking for the Diddy situation or are you asking for the Adam 22? In general.
Starting point is 01:01:39 You guys would understand. I'll try to ask this question with Adam too. You know what I mean? I think Adam is a diabolical genius when it comes to marketing. I think he's a genius in marketing. And I think he had to pivot, right? This is similar to the Tucker thing we were talking about. Wait for it.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Wait for it. Wait for it. It's the Fox News shit. You kill a story with another story. And that other story has to be a big fucking story. What's the story you had to kill? Adam? Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Should we not bring it up? Let's go. No, bring it up. Obviously, the Fig Munity boys, who I fucking love. Shout out to AD. Shout out to T-Rell. Shout out to Duno. I'm going to just go with the fact that No Jumper was experiencing a very difficult
Starting point is 01:02:25 branding situation. It's a podcast that was brand around LA street culture, right? And now the LA street dudes had left the podcast, right? Everybody's talking about No Jumper's in shambles. No Jumper's falling apart. Is this the end of No Jumper? All these vlogs, everybody's talking about this happening. You need to kill a story with a story. Now, did he pay the ultimate price for killing a story? Fuck no. Now, wait for it. Did he pay the ultimate price for killing a story?
Starting point is 01:02:53 Nobody says, yo, hey, my company isn't doing good. Yo, bring my wife in. Let her get fucked. Yo, fuck her. Who does that? It's kind of genius, though. That's genius? It's kind of genius. Now. It's kind of genius. I would never do that, but I'm also not in porn. Branding genius, and this one guy said it.
Starting point is 01:03:12 No, listen, I'm not in porn. I haven't been completely desensitized to sex. My opinion is that both of them see sex as absolutely nothing intimate at all. And the act thereof is meaningless. Therefore, matter of fact, they see sex in the same way that people who dance a lot, like my parents had a dance studio girl. That's how they provide a living for us. If I saw my wife dancing with some random dude, I'd be like, the fuck you dancing with this random dude? My parents would dance with different people all the time. Dancing to them was nothing intimate. It was just a part of the thing.
Starting point is 01:03:45 I assume in some warped reality, and this is warped for us, they think... Yo, Adam's wife is squirting on other niggas, man. Stop playing, man. That's not like dancing, man. Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. Yo, I watched the last scene. It was free on X, by the way. Yo, she came while the other nigga
Starting point is 01:04:02 was piping her out. She's trembling like a motherfucker. That's not like dancing, bro. Do you think that I don't agree with you? Yes. Hold on. Do you think I don't agree with you? Do you think that I don't feel what you're feeling? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:13 It doesn't matter what we feel. It matters what the dude and the girl. You got to bring Adam here to the recycle analyzer. You need a therapist, too. Yeah, maybe I do. Well, my point is, when I look at it, I go,, oh my God, this is horrendous. I could never do this. But the point is the game, the view of No Jumper has completely changed. Now No Jumper's killing it. The only thing people talking about is this. We're talking about this right now. The end of No Jumper is no more. This was some
Starting point is 01:04:41 Rupert Murdoch shit. You kill the story with the story. Now, here's the question. You will eventually have to pay a price for this decision. And that price will be paid later on. And whether or not they are willing to pay that price will not happen now. It will happen later. And then they will make that decision. To us, that price is too high. We would never do that. But to them, they made a decision to save a brand that looked as if it was failing and it worked. All right, listen, we're in different outfits, so you know what it is. It's money making time. It's money making time and we gotta lock in the locks, the sing locks right now. Akash has three locks and by locks,'m going to put the quotes on them because legally
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Starting point is 01:08:33 To see the show Shout out to you Sod and Miniclip Everybody Go use that shit right now Now let's get back to the show Somebody made a point About that
Starting point is 01:08:40 And by the way I hate when people I don't like Make a point that I agree with The worst Come on It's the worst right Who you don't like make a point that I agree with. The worst. Come on, it's the worst, right? Who you don't like? I would never say his name. He's irrelevant. I'll take his point. Sounds like he's relevant.
Starting point is 01:08:52 No, no, no, no. I told Adam because he and Adam sat on a podcast and I said, Adam, don't sit with fucking losers because even Adam regretted it. Anyway, the point was this. A black dude? Basically, he said to Adam, why are you doing these things where you're having your wife having sex with other men? Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:11 Right? Very reasonable question. Adam said, well, a lot of it is influenced by the extreme and exponential amount of currency and money we could get. Yeah, Adam fucked up. amount of currency and money we could get yeah i don't fuck that then the dude then said well okay well you've made money before in the past and even now and you continue to make money even with these things what are you using the money for and adam said the thing that confused well it gave him the checkmate but confused everybody else he says well i live a really modest life. I don't use money. So, yeah, I've made a lot of money, but I don't use it.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I'm just, I'm not invested in it. I'm just, I have no use for it. So the question became, if you don't really have that much use for money, how is money the thing that's driving you to do these things? That's the thing that really fucked me up. Money is always going to be a motivator. It's always going to be a driving force on decisions
Starting point is 01:10:07 you make, especially when you have a kid. It just is how you create security. I understand both of them are looking at this and they're like, there's an end. Y'all can't be porn stars forever. You can't be in the rap game and talking about talking with gang members forever.
Starting point is 01:10:23 It stops eventually. Really? Yes. I'm going to be talking with gang members forever. Like it stops eventually. So if they have, yes, I'm going to be told the game was forever. Fair enough. But, but they might be like, all right,
Starting point is 01:10:31 we got a five year runway. We got a 10 year runway. We got to get it in as much as we can be. I think he did say that he was like, he had a talk with Leonard. He was like, yeah, we could,
Starting point is 01:10:41 we could either stop now or we can just try to go big cash out. And then we, and they can't get regular jobs. Keep that in mind. Like, it's not like they just go, yo, we can either stop now or we can just try to go big, cash out, and then we end up. And they can't get regular jobs. Keep that in mind. Like, it's not like they just go, okay, I'm going to sell insurance. I'm going to work at fucking Best Buy. The only thing that confused me, which, by the way, again, the same guy who's, I hate giving people credit, who had decent points, but I don't like him. Why don't you say his name? No.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I wish I knew his name. Do I know him? No. But it's some red pill, black dude, like corny dude. He's corny. So, wait, is he on Fresh and Fit? He's been there a bunch of times. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Does he have a donation-based platform that we can support? Yes. Definitely. What is it? What's his co-funding? You know, birds of a feather. I'll let you know after the show. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:21 No, we want to put a link in the bio to support him. What I'll definitely say, like, he made the point about money. And I made the same point to Adam. I guess that's what I'm saying. Because remember talking to Adam and I said, Adam, we're both in media and hip-hop media. And hip-hop independent media just popped off. I know how much money I make. Reasonably, within like 20% or so, I know you're making the same.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Brother, you're not starving. I'm not starving. What's your number? What's your number to stop? Stop what? Stop doing everything. There is none. Because I'm doing exactly what I like to do. There's a difference between doing what you like to do and doing it because you have
Starting point is 01:12:04 to do it. You have to do this in order to provide for your lifestyle. I can stop. And live the same life? At least for like, I would say 15 years. That's not helpful. You're right.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You can't stop. But still like, okay. Okay, if I work five more years, I'm good. What does that number mean? That number means... What's your number? Just give me a number. It's just a number.
Starting point is 01:12:32 50? Even that question, though, is kind of unfair because it always goes out the closer you get to it. Yeah, but just at this point in his life. I agree with you, but, like, at this point in your life, what is the number? 50? Okay, okay, okay, okay. So, for me... This is a financial question. It's not a braggadocious situation
Starting point is 01:12:49 so for me like when it comes to bills and everything i have to spend every month maybe it's between 125 to 150 000 a month that i that i have to expend right so if i'm making at least $200,000. Yeah, you need $1.8 to pay your not. Right. So now I'm thinking about savings. This is in third. Yeah, people have saw some maybe nice things they thought I bought,
Starting point is 01:13:18 but come on, these things are just petty little small things. I've done really well and saved a lot of stuff. So then if I was supposed to extrapolate on the bills that I currently have, and if it continued to be that for 10, 15 years, or let's say just say 20 or 30, right? Then I would have that number of what I need to make, right? And I would probably think that, you know, obviously let's get to a number that I could still live that lifestyle at least while I'm living, right?
Starting point is 01:13:49 But even then— Let's back into it the other way. How much money do you need to make after taxes a year, right, in order to not do anything, not lift a finger ever again? Now, again, your lifestyle is going to change when you don't have to support your businesses. But for example, let's say you make 25, let's say you have $25 million liquid in the bank and you're making 5% on that. That's $1.25 million a year.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You're getting tax capital gains on that. That's 20%. So that comes down to about a million cash a year you have after taxes. That'd be fine. You'd be fine to live on. Of course, anybody would be fine to live on. And again, a million cash. Yes. Capital gains tax different than revenue. You're not making income.
Starting point is 01:14:28 You're just getting taxed off of your assets, right? Or your equities, whatever you have in the market. So 25 million is a fuck you number where you could live whatever you want to live. Yeah. Right. And of course, that's most people. You can pay your homes, you can pay your mortgages, you can do pay your cars, everything you need. 25 million. That's the number then. Yeah, but even with Adam now. My point is you said you and him are making the same thing.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Does he? No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. On a media entity. So I was thinking of it like, yo, we're both comfortable. Why do you need to do more shit? You know what I mean? Well, because...
Starting point is 01:15:06 Unless it's a passion of yours. Because I wouldn't do anything... Had somebody fuck his wife? If you offered me a million... If it was a passion, you would have done it anyway. Okay, if you offered me a million dollars to... If you offered me a million dollars to go on a date with Saucy Santana, I would say no. Yeah, but you have a number where you would.
Starting point is 01:15:23 25 million. Brother. You would do it... Let me tell you something. A where you would. $25 million. Brother. You would do it. Let me tell you something. Listen, listen, listen. Let me tell you something. You would do it for $100 million, and it's not even a question. It's not even a question.
Starting point is 01:15:36 That's a lot. I'm giving up cheeks for $100 million, no question. $100 million? $100 million. All he got to do is get entered. I'm saying $100 million. Stop, bro. is get entered. I'm saying 100 mil, bro. 100 mil. You want Mark to stop, bro?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Better him than his wife, bro, with all due respect. You can come on my yacht. That's actually a great point. I was judging him. That is a great point. Comparatively, and you can come on my yacht anytime. We'll go on vacation. I'll take you out.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I'll fly you out. That's the difference between Mark and Adam. Mark's like, fuck me for 100 mil. I put the team on my back. I put the whole team on my back, bro. He's a provider. Here's the thing. And maybe, again, I'm not looking at it in terms of finances.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I'm looking for Adam to just basically say, hey, listen, I like to be in these, like, hey, I'm a porn star. I'm, like, sexually numb to regular sex. Isn't that what I just said that you disagree with? No, no, no. You're saying that there's a financial incentive. No, what I'm saying is that. I want him to just be like, yo, listen. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:35 I love the freak shit. I like other people having sex with my wife. I don't know, Adam. It turns me on. I don't know, Adam. I'm at the point where I fuck so much that I can't even get hard. We're doing regular shit, and I need to do this, so it's more than money. I think Adam and Lena have both experienced sexual trauma in their lives, and because of that, as a coping mechanism, they have desensitized themselves to sex. Do you know what we call trauma if they were describing it?
Starting point is 01:17:02 No, from before. No, I'm saying at younger ages. If they were describing it? No, I'm saying at younger ages. And because of that, as a way to cope with it, you basically diminish what sex is. So if you go, sex is actually nothing, then that horrendous thing that happened to you, right, is nothing. It means less. It affects you less. And then once you numb yourself to sex, you can kind of do anything within that.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Now, I don't know if that happened to them. That would be a hypothesis that I would come up with, right? Because for me, it's not numb. It would be horrific to do what they did. But they're capable of doing it. So I have to find some sort of explanation to that. And a lot of people in the industry, unfortunately, have experienced this horrible shit. So once you're numb to it, you can do anything. Once you're numb to it, you can do anything.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Once you're numb to it, you can do anything. And wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. And monetize the fact that we are not numb. I'm going to tell you why I think he's not numb. Nah, bro. Hold on, I'm going to tell you why I don't think he's numb. There was a time where he had did some shit that
Starting point is 01:18:01 I felt... But he understands media. No, hold on. It was a time he did some shit that I felt but he understands media it was the time he did some shit that I felt if we were men you would understand why I would be upset and I could tell like when he was explaining it on his platform he didn't get it like what like what like what like what so he had interviewed so it was around
Starting point is 01:18:18 a time I think was it after or maybe during everyday struggle but I was trying to get these other ventures and he had brought up a girl who's a notorious liar um and that particular girl he was my brother please um he brought up a girl that was sane and almost making allegations on me and i was like you know this is the type of shit especially you know where you know i'm at in media at this point this is hurtful this isn't about like you know oh like oh it's my ex or a girl i dealt with this is a girl who's just saying shit why would yeah okay so i remember
Starting point is 01:18:53 saying yo i think he's he's just emotionally he doesn't understand shit so when me and him used to get into it i said i admit if you don't care about nothing, I'm going to find something you don't care about. So I talked about everything. Yeah, y'all relationship is weird. And there was a point, I went to No Jumper one time, and remember I walked in and there was a bunch of crips just entering, and I was just like, I don't care who in here, y'all going to have to beat
Starting point is 01:19:18 me up, because when the camera come on, Aki's going to be Aki. You ain't going to get the toned down version. It's always going to be Aki. And I remember I went kind of hard at him about his relationship with Lena. And this is before I knew anything. I was joking about all types of shit.
Starting point is 01:19:34 And he messaged me like a day or two after and he said, hey, listen, when I came in the game, you know what people looked up to? I love doing content with you, but I'm going to be honest with you, this is kind of out of bounds. Like you mentioned my girl in a certain way,
Starting point is 01:19:51 and I'm going to be honest, I was so happy because I thought it was a motherfucker. Yeah, I thought it was a motherfucker with no limit. Now here's the question. Is that limit an emotional limit, or is that, did you attack the brand in a way? Because I think the motivation with a lot of people, Adam's not singular in this,
Starting point is 01:20:07 I think with a lot of people, especially successful people, is what continues to provide for the brand. So if you act like C-Mac, right? Crip Mac. If he acts crazy and wild and he's the most entertaining
Starting point is 01:20:21 and fucking incredible character, it don't matter what he says because he is uplifting the brand. So I'm going to have you around. C-Mag is saying I'm going to eat your girl's ass. I'm a fucker. I'm a doer. That's uplifting the brand. It's part of it.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It's great. You were chipping away at the brand. Death by a thousand cuts. Do you know what that is? I know. But what? Fuck the brand. I think his girl finally said, you want to let your man talk about me right now?
Starting point is 01:20:44 No, it's not. Think about it. Everybody's calling him a cuck. And then all of a sudden. No, this is a different Adam. Big boy Adam. Hold on. This is a different.
Starting point is 01:20:52 This Adam has put on, like, I think at first a facade. He's putting on an act persona. But back then. Bro, I did an episode of What's It Called? And he had the YouTube clip questions lined up like we're all no jumper and i thought that we're kind of cool and he had the he had the title in the questions and i'm sitting there and i'm like oh wow the most important thing here because i thought we were like cool not like boys or nothing but i thought we were cool enough whatever and i was like okay
Starting point is 01:21:23 you came in here you know what your title got to be for this podcast. You know what the clip's got to be for the podcast. And I'm like, okay, now I understand who you are. Anything that serves you and continues to succeed within this business, this is going to be a good thing and we're going to go and we're going to push on it. I don't hate on it because I like knowing where people stand. I like knowing what people's intentions are. I operate a little different. You are on this podcast right now. If there's something from this pod you're like, yo, I don't want out, I'm cutting it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I'm cutting it. Adam's not cutting it. That is true. He said on his very stage, I will not allow a guy to fuck my wife. I make enough money. Right there where you sit. Makes me think a little different about you and Saucy. Maybe there's something down the pipeline.
Starting point is 01:22:16 No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I said that's 25 million right there. Yeah. What if that's 25? That's 25 million. I pay to see it. I will pay this bro for live on Rumble. Yeah, what if that's $25 million? That's $25 million right there. If you feature it, it's awesome. I'd pay to see it. I would pay to see it. Bro, live on Rumble?
Starting point is 01:22:28 Yo, son. Come on, bro. That would be rumbling. Hosted by Fresh and Fit. Yo, they could... Rumble in the jungle right there. Yo, we off the Henny, man. We on that Hen dog.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So, like, right now, I got a sense in myself because I'm going to say things that I don't want to say. I'm like, man, that $25 million ain't worth nothing because I ain't going to want to live. You ain't going to want to live after that. You don't make it a joke. You see, yo, fuck you, my nigga. Yo, let's cry together, bro. Have you ever? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:22:58 That's another thing, too. I cry all the time. That's another thing, too. I cry all the time. Some people on social media and some people on the internet, they're like, damn, he's crying. I'm going to be honest with you. When I'm live, I've never been in therapy a day in my life. We can tell.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You don't say. We can tell. We can tell. Really? I ain't going to lie. It's the most honest version of me. I'm working things out and things on my mind. In real time.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Things on my mind comes out. Sometimes I'll realize I'm wrong and it happens in real time. To me my mind comes out. Sometimes I'll realize I'm wrong, and it happens in real time. To me, I think that's therapy. Dude, therapy is funny. No, hell no. Bring a therapist on stream. A therapist on stream. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Not in terms of fixing yourself, but sometimes it's funny to walk into the therapy room and know that that's about to be the best 45 minutes of that therapist's day. Like, you're going to walk in there, and you'll be like, all these other boring motherfuckers, and I'm coming in here with day. Like, you gonna walk in there and you be like, all these other boring motherfuckers and I'm coming in here with heat. I'm making up shit in therapy. Heat? I'm lying. Yeah, if they get bored.
Starting point is 01:23:51 You in therapy too? I've been, yeah. I don't go right now, but I've been. Show me you guys how to use the therapy. We're white, dude. Stop, stop, stop with this.
Starting point is 01:23:59 White people been into mental health for fucking decades. I tell my mom about mental health, like, she gonna be like, I'm coming over to cook some oxtail. We gonna make this shit right. What are you talking about? Nah,
Starting point is 01:24:07 we not doing that. Where does your mom live? Well, you just want me to tell her that sauce, you could go burn it. State, state.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Oh, she lives in the same state as me. That's why I live there. I would have been in Florida. If my mom ain't live where I live now, I would have been in Florida. So you paying,
Starting point is 01:24:20 I hope your mom knows how much you paying in taxes just to be around her. Yeah, and I pay her bills, too. Wow, boy. Wow, boy. Got to.
Starting point is 01:24:28 You know what I mean? Are you cool? You guys are cool? Who? Mom is, like, in your life big time? Yeah, of course. Does she know everything that's going on? Does she know what her son has achieved?
Starting point is 01:24:39 Well, first of all, my mom, you know, my mom has, like, a permanent room in my house. These days, I'm trying to get her to not show up on announcements. She's doing this new thing. She's retired, right? Of course. So she's bored. Yeah. So she got three sons.
Starting point is 01:24:54 She needs something to do. She's like, yo, I'm picking which son to go hang out with. I'm at your house. I'm like, no. Are you her favorite? I wouldn't say I'm her favorite. I wouldn't say I'm her favorite I think she would say that I'm the person
Starting point is 01:25:07 who probably has done most for her and changed her life but her favorite like a mom's favorite a lot of times is the oldest oh I was going to say the youngest
Starting point is 01:25:16 no the oldest I'm the youngest I'm going to tell you why I'm going to tell you why the oldest I'm going to tell you why the oldest I was trying to find a reason I was trying to find a why the oldest. I'm going to tell you why the oldest.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I was trying to find a reason. I was trying to find a reason. Zoom in on the tears. Zoom in on the tears. I was trying to find a reason. Zoom in on the tears. Question, and if I'm overstepping, don't answer the question, but there was a situation that I heard online where either maybe it was an ex or your girl, I don't know what, but had an altercation
Starting point is 01:25:45 with your mom. I think people took that overboard because I think people were trying to act like, you know what I mean? So it was a situation where, and I'm really not trying to get too much into this, but You don't have to. Girlfriend,
Starting point is 01:26:01 well, really it's me. I have a bad history with women trying to expose me. And one of those things where, like, listen, I'm a black boy from Jamaica. If I get in an argument with a woman, my mama told me, well, I'm going to call my mom on the phone. I'm going to walk outside in the middle of the street or I'm going to tell my mama to come over. We need a woman in the building because a man and a woman, I ain't trying to get done. What's that nigga named Jonathan Majors? I seen the video.
Starting point is 01:26:26 You saw him running? Moving. That's how you deal with that. Jay-Z did the duck? Jonathan Majors is like, I'm not even in the building. It's a white woman. You got to run. He still got clipped. He ran from a white woman. That's how hard it is for us.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Free black people. Hold on. Shout out to America for doing it first. Shout out to America for doing it first, bro. I'm going to say this, though. Hold on, hold on. Shout out to America for doing it first. Shout out to America for doing it first, bro. I'm going to say this, though, in reality. What would Trump have done? I definitely would have grabbed her. By the what?
Starting point is 01:26:56 I will definitely say and I love my people. Who's your people in this circumstance? Black people. But black people always in this circumstance? Black people. But black people always be like, yo, there's a white girl that I gave him the, man, in my life, there's always a black chick. I ain't going to hold you.
Starting point is 01:27:11 White chicks, they always kept it P and dipped when like, yo, hey, it's not working, leave. Black girls, ratchet, making noise, exposing. I ain't going to lie to you. Well, is your girl black? Oh, man. Okay. I'm the last of the Mohicans.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I'm the only one still dating them. Yo, oh, by the way, that's what Fresh Outta told me. He said, I'm the last of the Mohicans. I know. That's hilarious. Yo, this is what Fresh Outta told me. This is the only thing I'll say. It's the last of the Mohicans about a white guy that joins the Native American. You can't even be right.
Starting point is 01:27:53 It's the last of the Mohicans. The real one. All they told me was this. This is white face right here. White face. You're goingface right here. Whiteface. Whiteface. Whiteface. Whiteface. You called me king from now on.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Yo, this is what they told me. They said, this is what Fresh and Fit told me. Who said this? Not Fresh and Fit. They was like, yo. Yo, get that talking points out. All right. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Sign that for our GoFundMe. They were mad at you. They were like, yo. Why mad at me? He came at them harder. They said, you know that guy that was acting like, you know what I mean, why you don't like black queens? We found out he don't even like black queens. His queen ain't black.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I'm like, it was like, you got to bring that up. Yeah, she's Spanish. Damn. Have you dated black girls? Yes, I have. And I dated white girls, and I dated even an Indian. Really? Really?
Starting point is 01:28:42 I never told her that. Well, Bengali, sorry. Yeah, she's a beautiful girl. I met her. She's cool. Oh, wow. Come on, man. So we out here. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:28:50 I date everybody. Say what? I date everybody. I don't think so. I never seen you with a white girl. What? I never seen you with a white girl. What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:28:58 White people. That's the funniest part. I never seen you with a white girl. I never seen a black guy do that. I never seen a black guy be like, you think I fuck white girls? What? Oh, I don't fuck white girls. I've never seen a black guy do that.
Starting point is 01:29:10 What you got against white girls? Make America great again. Come on. My face too fat. No. It's out. Oh, man. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Trump 20. What is it? 24? Where's the red hat? I need the red hat. Chill, chill, chill. One step at a time, right? Chill, chill, chill, chill.
Starting point is 01:29:30 You know what I mean? No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. No, I've dated white girls. When I broke up with them, they just went away. I dated a black girl. They're on the blogs. Hey, let me tell you about this bitch-ass nigga.
Starting point is 01:29:41 I'm exposing him. I don't know what it is. Well, maybe the white girls dated you for love and the black girls dated you for clout. Really? Maybe the white girls cared about who you were. Maybe the white girls just really loved Ack or your real name, Sentinel. Why are you saying there's government on here, bro? You can't say that.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I don't know what that is. Sentinel. Sentinel. Sentinel. No, you made a good point, though. Sentinel. Maybe the white, I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah, the white girls didn't know who you were.
Starting point is 01:30:11 They don't know about Big Ak, Afghanistan. No, the white girls just didn't have a platform to, like, complain to. They don't? TikTok? There's no complaints about me. What you mean? Well, you don't go down on girls. Like, maybe do you think that's part of it?
Starting point is 01:30:23 Like, if you went down on them, maybe they would be... You ain't never licked a pussy lip in your life, Cap? Hey, listen. He's never gone down on a girl. You ain't never licked a pussy lip. Talk about it. Anyway. Answer the question.
Starting point is 01:30:37 You ain't never licked a pussy lip. You're not getting out of this act. Don't look at me for safety. You ain't never licked a pussy lip in your life? Nah, brother. act. Don't look at me for safety. You ain't never licked a pussy lip in your life? Nah, brother. He's never gone down? I'm not saying I wouldn't. My wife. Wife.
Starting point is 01:30:49 It gotta be wife. Are you really going to get married? Are you really going to lie right here? Not now, because I know you're skinny, but back in your eating days. Tell him this. You tell him this. You stopped at pussy lips? He's saying you ate a lot of other shit.
Starting point is 01:31:05 Yeah. Yeah. You're saying you never ate pussy? I'd rather eat a McRib from McDonald's than motherfucking pussy lips. What the fuck is he talking about? What about ass? You never ate ass? You eat ass?
Starting point is 01:31:14 I didn't say I do. Oh, you're white. Do you eat ass? White people don't got no bounds, man. They don't. Yeah, we do. Once I see, I came over here. I'm from Jamaica.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Like, we got- It's called the Mason- No, no, no. It's a very clear boundary. We got all type of season and shit. When I came up here, I said, wait, white people are eating like raw meat? Oh, this is crazy. Japanese people eat raw fish. Well, they white too.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Yo, he's kind of right. He's kind of right, to be honest. That checks out. That checks out. That was. He's fucking onto something. That was good, dude. On a census, they check. You can tell he's confident in a point when he stops. Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I do want to ask you this. When he doesn't talk to you. If we're talking about Rushmore's, right? If we're talking about Rushmore's. Of white people? No, no. Just, I'm going to name the people under Mount Rushmore. Who's the greatest white person?
Starting point is 01:32:01 No, no, no. Name me. Name the greatest white person. No, no. Name this. Michael Jackson. No, no. Name this Mount Rushmore. If we got Diddy, R. Name me. Name the greatest white person. Michael Jackson. No, no. Name this Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 01:32:05 If we got Diddy, R. Kelly, Bill Cosby, and Trey Songz, this is a Mount Rushmore. How you will do that to Trey? Trey don't deserve that. What did Trey Songz do? How you doing that to Trey? What did Trey do? Why you putting Diddy up there? Why you even put Diddy?
Starting point is 01:32:16 That's allegations. Wait a minute. I didn't tell you how Mount Rushmore is. I'm saying name the, what? That would be the Mount Rushmore of what? Music. Of music? I can't.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Cosby have never made music. Come on, Chuck. What be the Mount Rushmore of what? Music. Music? Cosby has never made music. Come on, Chuck. What's the Mount Rushmore of? Black entertainment. What is it? Diddy, Cosby, R. Kelly, Trey Songz. Mount Rushmore of what? That's what he's asking.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Now, come on now. He's asking us to... You can use the lifeline. Okay, I'll use a lifeline. I'll call the police. Tell me, what is this a Mount Rushmore of? They'll figure it out. Name the greatest white person ever.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Greatest white guy ever. No, person. That's easy. No, it's not easy. It's not easy. It's hard. There's a lot of white people you look up to. No, I need my brown brother to help me out.
Starting point is 01:33:04 If you're a black dude. He's going to get one after. Just you go first. You want to say Abraham Lincoln? Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't let him do it. Barack Obama. Can't we say Eminem or some shit like that? Say whatever you think.
Starting point is 01:33:14 I want to know number one white person. I won't go top three whites, but give me number one. They got to be full? Go top three. Yeah, do they have- Top three whites, full whites. Oh, full whites. Okay.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Okay, man, we got to be able to like share- No, bruh. What? You can't name one. Why are you so scared? Just brainstorm. You're not in the industry, bro. Oh, full whites. Okay. Okay. Me and him, we got to be able to share. No, bro. What? You can't name one. Why are you so scared? Just brainstorm. You're not in the industry, bro. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:33:30 No, you're right. Just throw a couple out. Just random. Top three whites. Eminem got to be up in that bitch. Okay, Eminem. Love that. That's a Mount Rushmore.
Starting point is 01:33:39 White people. You want to vote for him? Oh, we got to put Uncle T up in there. Uncle T. Uncle T. Uncle T. Okay we got to put Uncle T up in there. Uncle T. Uncle T. Uncle T. Uncle Trump got to be up in there. Okay, number two.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Let me see. Might have to do Elon Musk, man. Okay, Elon Musk. That's three. That's three. Technically African, but he's white. He's African, technically white, man. That's three. That's three. That's three. Four, four, four. Oh, that's top three. That's three. Technically African, but yeah, he's white. He's African, technically white, man. That's three.
Starting point is 01:34:05 That's three. That's three. Four, four, four. Oh, that's top three. You said three. That's three. You didn't name one girl. You might be a, listen.
Starting point is 01:34:13 No, no. I'm a feminist. Material girl. Everybody know I'm a feminist. You could have said Margot Robbie. You could have said the bitch from Euphoria. What was the girl that you did from Euphoria? Sydney Sweeney.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Oh, my God, Sydney. Damn, bro. He doesn't know any women. He doesn't know any women. Yo, name a woman. You really hate women like that, bro? Name a woman. I went to Doja Cat concert.
Starting point is 01:34:37 She was fire. Matter of fact, I went to Doja Cat concert. Ice Spice, greatest performer living right now. Wow. She twerked for 30 minutes. That shit was amazing. Yo, she had the mic by her Wow. She twerked for 30 minutes. That shit was amazing. Yo, she had the mic by her booty. All you heard was twerk wind.
Starting point is 01:34:49 It sure was twerk wind. Not one song. Yo, twerk wind. Twerk wind. What's the problem? Category five. Category five. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:35:01 So wait, Ice Spice was good? What about the pussy wiping thing? Can you explain the wiping? I don't understand that. She'll do the thing where she bends over and then she wipes from her. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:35:10 She's not wiping. See, y'all white people. Y'all really uncool. She's splitting the lips. It looks as if she's wiping her asshole through her pussy, which is a guaranteed
Starting point is 01:35:19 yeast infection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that that's a very sanitary way of trying to entertain a crowd. She's bending over and then wiping from booty hole through pussy. You know what's so funny? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think that that's a very sanitary way of trying to entertain a crowd. She's bending over and then wiping from booty hole through pussy. You know what's so funny? You're not a back shot guy.
Starting point is 01:35:30 You're definitely a missionary guy. I can tell. Oh, you're a back shot guy? No, no, no. I'm on my back. Popcorn, popcorn, popcorn. You know who Popcon is? Of course, that's my guy.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Wait, wait. I'm Popcon. So, wait. So, you're on your back while she's doing, wait, wait. She's riding or something? Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Oh. Popcorn.
Starting point is 01:35:48 And sometimes I give her the backpack. Popcorn, popcorn, popcorn. Hey, hey, hey. Oh, look at that. Ice spice. I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, yo, listen.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah. They might have just convinced me recently to get into OnlyFans. You're going to start an OnlyFans? No, no, no. I might as well just do a cameo. It's not saucy, though. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How you going to let saucy
Starting point is 01:36:09 have direct contact? What are you going to make the tears, bro? A bitch who I done dealt with went online. You know when a bitch is salty, she going to say, oh, he got a small meat,
Starting point is 01:36:17 so I got to now show it off. Like, she said it's small. I got to show it off. Come on, man. I'm like, jumble, Trump. Do you think your meat is bigger looking now that you're skinny? Like, your dick looks bigger objectively because you're skinny. Hold on, man. I'm like jumbotron. Do you think your meat is bigger looking now that you're skinny? Like your
Starting point is 01:36:26 dick looks bigger objectively because you're skinny. Hold on, hold on. When I suck the belly in, like this shit be looking large, bro. Do you have a huge dick? So what was that picture with all them bumps on your shit? Was that you? It's in girl hair, though. But it was here. You know what's so
Starting point is 01:36:41 funny? Yo, I'm gonna be honest with you. Is that hating again? Was that hate? No, that's not hating. No. Is that an objective question? It was an objective question. Don't you try to put hate on me.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I asked it. Don't you ask it? We don't have him here every day. I want to know when this bumps on his fucking meat. I want to know when this bumps on his meat. No, no, no. Pause. No, I had to go over here.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Anyway. That was crazy. That was crazy. I was going to say what's happening right now. Have you ever dealt with a crazy bitch that because she don't want you to fuck other bitches, she'd rather say you have an STD? Oh, my God. That's fucked up. No, I'm serious.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Hold on. I swear. Hold on. You must have given good dick then. Are you good at sex? I don't think I'm that good, bro. I'm like mediocre. What is your move?
Starting point is 01:37:26 Son, you. I'm like a white guy when it comes to that. I'm not really like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck does that mean? We invented sex. Are you saying we do all of it? Are you saying you eat ass when you're sad? Oh, so you're saying white dudes eat ass? Yeah, we do. We invented good sex stuff. You guys catch on late.
Starting point is 01:37:41 He's nasty. You gonna take that? Nah, we're the best., low-key Indians are the best But I'm saying like over here Nah, Indians ain't really Like really put There's two billion Indians Do the math Yeah
Starting point is 01:37:52 Do the math Yo, they're dealing with chicks Who never got dick in their life Like to keep her in a pinky Might get them to come 15 times God damn You gonna let him say that About your women?
Starting point is 01:38:01 What? I'm not listening to this Gay motherfucker Who cares what you got Women's? What? I'm not listening to this gay motherfucker. Who cares what you got to say, bro? You get knocked out and fucked in your ass by Saucy Santana. They don't like it.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Oh, man. Fuck you, Akash. No, but for real, your dick game is okay or what? I'm going to be honest with you. Like, I'm one of those, what do you think about yours? Like, how do you rate it? You tell me.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Yo, how do you rate it? Because my whole life I thought it was just size dependent. But now I know that there's a skill to sex. What size are you? Like, how many hands do I put on it? Damn. Like, how many hands? That was great. How many hands did your put on it Damn Like how many hands No
Starting point is 01:38:45 That was great How many hands Did your girl put on her Oh that's different Girls have smaller hands So you tell me Go ahead One and a half
Starting point is 01:38:52 Yeah she can almost Get her whole hand On that thing No no no Like I can put my hands On it And my dickhead Is sealed out
Starting point is 01:39:00 I'm a truthful person But you did ask me How big my dick is And looked at my hands That's good You asked me You were talking about Your shoulder You crazy as hell I'm a true foot person. But you did ask me how big my dick is and looked at my hands. You asked me! You told my nigga you were a shoulder. You crazy as hell. You did ask, bro.
Starting point is 01:39:11 You did ask, bro. You didn't go faster than me out of this shit. Yo, yo, yo. I was fucking with a chick. Don't talk about girls right now, bro. We're talking about me and you. She was a whore. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Paid for? No, of course not. What are you talking about? I'm not fresh and fit in these guys. Oh, you see? You put it on fresh and fit first. You see what your donations are going to? Do you see what your donations are going to, ladies and gentlemen?
Starting point is 01:39:34 No, no, no, no. Did he make class? How much is he paying? How much is he paying? Exactly. You accuse fresh and fit of doing so much. By the way, I know my mans, they never pay for sex. Well, you told me. No, they said that.
Starting point is 01:39:47 Yes, they did. They said it on air. They said it on air, son. Really? Yes. Cite your sources. He did cite the website that they on. What was this shit?
Starting point is 01:40:01 Christian Mingle? That's not paid sex. No, that was when you were looking for Sugar Daddy. Sugar Daddy sites. That's whores. If you on a Sugar Daddyle? That's not paid sex. No, that was when you were looking for a sugar daddy. Sugar daddy sites. That's whores. If you're on a sugar daddy site, you're paying for sex. Yeah, roundabout. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:40:11 Uh-oh. Yeah. I mean, you could say any relationship where a guy pays. Shut up. Hold on. But you're right. I'm going to be honest with you. You got to listen to my guys.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Yo, shut up, Al. Fresh from the coolest guys ever. My guys? Yo, my guys? Yo, shut up, Al. Fresh from the coolest guys ever. My guys? Yo, my guys? Yo, yo. Their game is so extreme, they'll get on the sugar daddy site and convince the bitches who want money
Starting point is 01:40:31 to not want money. Facts. You don't gotta... Yo, stop laughing at them. Yo, stop laughing at them. Yo, these are the coolest guys on the planet, bro. They're helping men every day. I know. Yo, they're helping're helping men every day. I know.
Starting point is 01:40:45 They're helping so many men every day. The next time I'm coming up here, I'm bringing them. Yo, bring them back up here. You won't have the same energy. How much do you want to? How much do you want to? Buddy, what are you talking about? Me?
Starting point is 01:40:58 Yo, I saw y'all here with them. What did I hear the other said? They've been crying about it since. And I was nice to them? No, you're not. They're not here. The other said they've been crying about it since and I was nice to them. No, yeah. They know they're not on their shit. Every single episode going. They were so good to us. They were bullying us. We got bullied later. They're still
Starting point is 01:41:13 crying about it. So I literally hate on him. No two years later my boy fresh. This is like I'm Captain. Which one is fresh fresh in my mom. He's a don't pay for he none of them pay for it. I mean Which one is fresh? He's the darkest kid, dude. None of them pay for it. One of them got four girlfriends. Facts.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Four girlfriends. Facts. Which one? The tall dude. Has four girlfriends. Facts. Is that an accomplishment? I'm just telling you what they got going on, man. How do they look?
Starting point is 01:41:42 Huh? Oh, there you go. That's how they look, and you said, huh? I don't know. I'm just telling you what they got going on, man. How do they look? Huh? Oh, there you go. I had to ask how they look, and you said, huh. I don't know. I'm just saying. I asked an objective question. You know you got four girlfriends. You don't know how any of them look?
Starting point is 01:41:55 I asked an objective question. No, I'm going to go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. I mean, you know a lot of information, but then I don't know a lot of information. Stop judging. I don't want to violate my man's. I'm going to be honest, though. You can buy a girl for 10 cents a day. No, I'm going to be honest with you. No, no. I'm going to be honest, though. You can buy a girl for 10 cents a day.
Starting point is 01:42:05 No, I'm going to be honest with you, though. My man Myron's girl, she looks really attractive. Yo, why are you hitting on your man's girl? See, now you know that. That's wild crazy. That was crazy. You got a Spanish girl. You like Spanish girls.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Yeah, I do, but that's crazy, bro. I would never hit on my man's girl. I'm not hitting on her. Yo, stop. Give me the website one more time. Rumble.com. Yo, go donate to Rumble so he can take his girl out to a nice dinner, bro. Why you mad at him?
Starting point is 01:42:32 Whoa, wait, why I'm going to? Go donate to Rumble so he can take his girl out to a nice, what is he like, steak, fish? I don't know. Anyway, Bofa. Wait, who else y'all beef with? Because I like the beef. You know what I mean? We don't beef.
Starting point is 01:42:45 We don't, yeah. Are y'all beef with? Because I like the beef. We don't beef. We don't beef. Are y'all cool with the JVP? Joe Budden podcast? Are we cool with them? No animosity. The shame is coming. This is white people's shame. You can tell.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Why is he looking at shame when it's just honesty? Cool with no. You know he gave you credit recently. I don't know. Listen, with all due respect. Low key? With all due respect. I think him and Charlamagne's beef, I don't know. Listen, with all due respect. Low key? With all due respect. I think him and Charlemagne's beef, I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:43:08 He came on my podcast, he said, you're the star and Charlemagne's your liking. Of course. Which I don't like that. He's using my success to get at Charlemagne. Exactly. But Charlemagne's the greatest radio host in our generation without a doubt. Charlemagne is talker. Other than Wendy.
Starting point is 01:43:21 Nobody's, no, no, Wendy doesn't come close. What? Then Wendy doesn't come close.? Then Wendy doesn't come close Charlamagne has had a longer run than Wendy Charlamagne is the greatest radio host Charlamagne is the greatest radio host In our generation is not a question And probably
Starting point is 01:43:35 Objectively speaking Probably the greatest ever If you really wanted to look at it Probably the greatest ever It's only him or Howard that you can talk about. Wendy is the GOAT. Wendy turned,
Starting point is 01:43:50 because she turned what she was doing on. I'll walk down the street, I'll ask, I'll walk down the street, I'll ask 10 Asian people they know who Wendy Williams is, they don't know the fuck she is.
Starting point is 01:43:57 Well, because you're talking about now. Play this. Back then. I'll ask 10 Asian people. Wendy Williams had a daytime TV show that she can still go back to now. You don't understand. You're on the internet too much, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:07 He's international. So you're, hold on. Like, Sean means international. You're telling me that. You don't understand. You don't understand, though. You don't understand. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Wendy was popular at a time where hip-hop existed primarily, and it was digested primarily in America. With The Breakfast Club and the YouTube channel, The Breakfast Club was the only access to hip-hop commentary outside of America. You have also become one of these portals. But The Breakfast Club was daily listening. So everybody in the world knows who Shawl is. Remember when I talked about hip-hop platforms and I talked about, like, you know, like, Shade Room and shit like that?
Starting point is 01:44:41 that talked about like, you know, like Shade Room or shit like that. Politis. What Wendy Williams had in terms of when she went to mainstream TV, like midday type of shit. I'm sorry. Hip hop doesn't come close. And I'm talking for me
Starting point is 01:44:56 and anybody that's been to hip hop. Hip hop does not come close. If you think it comes close otherwise, if it came close, Charlamagne would be hosting a midday television show. That's also a TV show. You're talking about a TV show. Also, he said radio. He said he's the greatest radio host. You're talking about a TV show.
Starting point is 01:45:14 But we're talking about skill at that point. No, I'm talking about greatest radio. So we're primarily talking about skill and we're talking about numbers. But why not bring up Oprah? You bring up a bunch of other black TV personalities. Are we talking about skill? If we're talking about skill, I agree with you. If we're talking about numbers. But why not bring up Oprah? You bring up a bunch of other black TV personalities. No, are we talking about skill? Are we talking about, like, if we're talking about skill, I agree with you. I'm talking about skill.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Oh, okay. If I'm talking about impact and everything, that's why I say nobody top Wendy. The only person you could compare Charlamagne to is Howard Stern. I'd probably give it to Howard, but that's not a guess at all. Now, here's the difference. Here's the difference. Howard came up at a time where radio was way more dominant. Charlotte found a way to take radio programming and compete with everybody on the internet. He turned radio into TV.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Now, Howard had a TV show on E. That's kind of how most of us knew Howard. The only thing I would push back with that. Let me say this, and this is with all due respect to Howard. Put Charlamagne on radio at the same time as Howard back in the day, nobody says the name Howard Stern ever did. I'm going to be honest. No one says the name. With the freedom to say whatever you want like Howard said, nobody says the name Howard Stern ever did.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Let me bring up a counterpoint. Hold on, hold on. There is a fucking movie about Howard Stern's life that probably made hundreds of millions of dollars. You're not doing that for just anybody. That's a radio guy who wrote a book that was a bestseller, and then they made a movie out of it. It's because radio was the dominant. But what other radio person ever had a- All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because there's more that you're getting from PrizePix.
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Starting point is 01:49:59 it's almost like i'm arguing against like instincts here because like I look up to Charlamagne so much, but it's like, Paulette, if we're talking about just like that type of shit, inflammatory, making a wave, like Star was that. But, hold on, hold on. Charlamagne is the evolved, better version of that. White people didn't know who Star was. Asians didn't know who that. White people didn't know who Star was. Asians didn't know who Star was. Indians didn't know who Star was. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Listen, and I woke up to Star and Buckwild every morning. But when you compare people to Howard Stern, now we got to talk about the ability to move an audience. Because Howard Stern said, hey, I'm going too motherfucking serious. Everybody come there. Now we got to talk about impact in terms of that. So now you have to equate anybody you're going to mention with Howard Stern in moving an audience. And the only thing, that's why I said Wendy, is because Wendy was operating on daytime or whatever, like whatever her slot was, and she brought people to TV.
Starting point is 01:51:02 brought people to TV. You now have to tell me anybody else beside Howard Stern who has brought an audience from A to B, which is a different meaning. Solomon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Where? From radio to internet. YouTube is TV. Like, are you crazy? And not only did he bring it to TV, meaning it was on the TV at that time every single day and there was eight other channels you could fucking watch.
Starting point is 01:51:26 There was millions of other channels you could watch, and you tapped in on YouTube. Son, how can you not see YouTube as TV? YouTube is the new TV. You're not hearing what I'm saying, though. I'm hearing it. I'm digesting it. I disagree with it. I also don't think you're understanding.
Starting point is 01:51:41 No, no, no. Because I know about moving audience. Yeah. And I know how difficult it is. But you also don't think you're understanding. No, no, no. Because I know about moving audience. Yeah. And I know how difficult it is. But you also don't understand. Hold on. I'm not saying The Breakfast Club didn't exist and still exists and they're amazing on YouTube. I don't think you know the strong, like, where'd you grow up?
Starting point is 01:51:53 Where'd you grow up? Please. Where'd you grow up? Where'd you grow up? I need to know where you were a kid. Well, at least in America, I was in Jersey. So you grew up listening to Hot 97 or you didn't? How old were you?
Starting point is 01:52:03 Both, yes. From 10 all the way up. Okay. So you grew up listening to Hot 97. Yes. Because how old were you both yes how old were you all the way up okay so you grew up listening to hot 97 because that's how i grew up i listened to hot 97 hot 97 i mean is a shell of what it was yes because of one human being no of course his name is charlotte no i'm not lying no of course it was an institution of hip hop it was a hip hop staple before one man how are you not acknowledging that I'm agreeing with y'all but I think the way you're looking at radio and everything else
Starting point is 01:52:34 Hot 97 doesn't go down in the fucking like Hot 97 Wendy's run bro we're talking about Ebro in the morning like I'm sorry to say Ebro's, we're talking about Ebro in the morning. Like, I'm sorry to say, Ebro's now. We're talking about... You don't understand hip-hop. Star and Buck is Hot 97, bro.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Flex is Hot 97. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Charlamagne was competing with... At the same time. Let's be honest. He was Syphus Sounds, Rosenberg. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Like, come on. Like, I'll kick them around now. Like, come on. That's what I'm saying. Yo, here's what I'm trying to say. I really saw you lose confidence. Yo, yo, yo, y'all got to stop it. Here's my thing about moving audience.
Starting point is 01:53:13 The second name. I talk about moving audience. He just had confidence. No, no. You can't build a show around Rosenberg. I'm sorry. You're right. Shout out to Syph, but Rosenberg ain't the one to carry a network.
Starting point is 01:53:23 And this is the only reason, by the way, this is all due respect. Like, I love Charlamagne. Nah, but Ebro was the show at that time. No, Ebro came back down. When I'm talking about Howard Stern, he moved his audience from FM AM to all the way to Sirius, right? That's a better point. I give you Howard. We see also Wendy do it.
Starting point is 01:53:41 If Charlamagne did it, he would do it to daytime TV or he would do it in other realms. Not the same program. Hold on. Like, for example, because I know I've struggled with that too. That's just reality. People like, people like, people like, for example, okay, great, I'm lit on YouTube. But then, does it translate to
Starting point is 01:54:00 every different medium? It's really hard. Daytime TV show also, the expectations are much lower, the ratings required are much lower, and it's a much cheaper thing to make. So if you're viable as a daytime TV host, we'll just keep you going because you're competing against nothing. If you have a good daytime talk show,
Starting point is 01:54:17 you're a fucking global superstar. Ellen and Oprah. The whole world knows them. Everybody else, it's cooking shows. It's just have some level of an audience and we're good. It's a very cheap show to make. We can do it every day. Let's go. Even if I'm paying
Starting point is 01:54:32 you a lot, I don't got to do shit else. There's no script writers. I'm sorry to interrupt, but I don't think you're giving enough credit to transitioning the audience from one platform to another, meaning radio to YouTube. You have a... That was natural. Hold on. I'm going to tell you why it to YouTube. That was natural. What's a natural mean?
Starting point is 01:54:49 It was natural because it's the reason why I existed. You're moving to goalposts. No, I'm not moving to goalposts. If that was natural, I wouldn't be a thing. If I had to compete with radio when the audience was only at radio, I wouldn't be a thing. The audience was already coming here. By the way, you know why I'm one of the biggest?
Starting point is 01:55:06 Why hasn't Hot 97 took off on internet? They also have video. They're fucking trash. So you're saying that he was better? Of course. He's the best of them. He's the best of them. Is he the best of his generation? Of course.
Starting point is 01:55:21 So we at least acknowledge best of generation. And we at least acknowledge that he transitioned his audience from radio to YouTube and brought in people that weren't even listening to the radio to YouTube. Just off of how compelling the interviews are. Yes or no? Yes or no? Yeah, hold on. Can you give a yes or no? Hold on.
Starting point is 01:55:41 You can't even just say yes or no? No, no, no. I think you take for granted because you're an internet dude. He's easy to go internet to internet. It's hard to go radio to internet. No, no, no. Is this a button thing? You feel like you got to defend Joe?
Starting point is 01:55:54 He got the biggest Patreon. No, no, no. Who cares what I want? Yo, his Patreon is huge, bro. His Patreon is one of the biggest. I'm going to say this and y'all are going to think it sounds like he bothers us.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Hold on, hold on. He's got to afford 20 different people playing musical chairs in his living room. All sounds like hate. It actually really bothers us. Hold on. It's got to afford 20 different people playing musical chairs. I'll say this, and y'all are going to think it's hate. Charlemagne is one of the greatest radio personalities of all time. Top what? Top two or three. We're coming to black people. He's top two. He's top two, and he's not to all people. Top what? Top two or three. When it comes to black people,
Starting point is 01:56:27 he's top two. It's top two and he's not two all people. No, no. He's top two when it comes to black people because Wendy's always number one for me. He's top three or top five. You don't think he's objective? Like, if you want to hear one person, let me just ask this. You want to hear one person interview a president, a rapper, a...
Starting point is 01:56:44 Culturally, that shit don't matter, bro. I mean, honestly, it do not matter, bro. I said a president, a rapper. Just give him that, because it's almost like comparing Jordan and LeBron. That's fine, that's fine. You have a style. They both, like, whatever one came before you. Yeah, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, like, I'm talking about culturally.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Interview Biden versus Wendy interviewing Whitney. Does not, right? Nobody gives a fuck about Biden, my nigga. Like, yeah, granted. Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, you're bigger, but it's not cultural. Hold on, hold on. We're talking about cultural.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Okay, name an iconic Wendy moment that you really remember. Remember with Andrew Dice Clay. Remember that one? I mean, a million of them. Both of them. Name one, name one, name one? I mean, a million of them. I remember her being the Statue of Liberty. Hold on. Well, first of all, she's a...
Starting point is 01:57:30 She outed... What's that thing you named? She's been on Diddy since the beginning. She called that shit early. She outed DJ Mr. C. Bro, like, Wendy's always been like... Name a moment. When Wendy brought Charlamagne in, it was because She outed DJ Mr. C. But like Wendy's always been like when Wendy. Name a moment.
Starting point is 01:57:50 When Wendy brought Charlamagne in, it was because she was so extreme. Name a moment. Now there are TikToks dedicated to just crazy Wendy Williams moments. They're both. Charlamagne himself would never sit on any camera and say that Wendy is the blueprint. I'm telling you this because it's a fact. So now let's talk about impact. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:09 Now let's talk about impact. Okay. By the way, no, no. Charlamagne has gotten- Radio, YouTube, books, TV. The only thing with Charlamagne, the only Charlamagne I would say, the only thing with Charlamagne I would say is different than the other two people.
Starting point is 01:58:23 By the way, this is rarefied air, so this is not hate. Charlamagne, like crimin the way, this is a rarefied error. So it's not hate. Charlamagne. Hold on. Criminally. Wait, wait. Rarefied error. Disrespected right now.
Starting point is 01:58:30 We're comparing him to Howard Stern and Wendy Williams. I'm not comparing him to Wendy with all due respect. I'm not. Okay, okay. I'll tell you why I'm comparing him. Because here's the thing. Hold on. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:58:45 We're not just talking talent. Of course, I think this thing is fucking amazing. It's great, right? I'm talking about you got to be able to mobilize and move an audience. If you could tell me, like, how has Stern moved an audience to fucking serious? I seen Wendy move an audience to daytime TV. You have to tell me where Sean moved an audience to. You can't tell me.
Starting point is 01:59:04 No, my nigga It's the same program People just start consuming Stop it Make that argument why it's the same program Make the argument Why it's the same program How is radio the same as YouTube
Starting point is 01:59:17 Okay so let me go on your bullshit point Okay so if you move them to YouTube Then they should go to the YouTube of the other shows that he does. Which are? Doesn't he have YouTubes for the other nightly pro? Hell of a week, didn't have a YouTube?
Starting point is 01:59:35 No, they don't put the whole show on YouTube. It doesn't matter. What do you mean, it does matter? No, it... How does that not matter? If somebody puts out a minute of his show, that matters? Oh, so you have to discount it.
Starting point is 01:59:48 See, you're reaching. This is the thing. Really? Let me make the argument. I don't think you've done anything outside of the Internet space. Fact. I agree. So you don't understand the difference between the Internet space and the traditional media space.
Starting point is 02:00:05 difference between the internet space and the traditional media space. The traditional media space is fundamentally different. Charlemagne comes from the traditional media space. I don't know if you would have the same success going from the unbelievable achievements that you've made on internet to a more watered down platform. Now, I agree so much. That's why I think I don't like when I'm pointing the same thing at him. No, because what we're saying is the opposite. He has the ability to go from the traditional media space where he made the biggest radio show ever.
Starting point is 02:00:44 We acknowledge within his generation the greatest radio host, right? We already acknowledge he's done it the best over here with the handcuffs. And then when you take the handcuffs off on the full unedited interview on YouTube, it becomes hip-hop media exists on YouTube because of him.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Bro. Yes or no? No, my nigga. Okay, who started hip-hop media on YouTube then? him. Bro. Yes or no? No, my nigga. Okay, who started hip-hop? Who started hip-hop media on YouTube then? That's what I'm saying. If you think it's a breakfast club,
Starting point is 02:01:10 you're crazy. No, no, tell me who. Nigga, breakfast club was a byproduct of the internet. Charmin himself says that out of his own mouth. But we saw what was our interviews
Starting point is 02:01:19 were going viral and I... That piff? That piff? Where did you go to get... No, the internet changed shit, bro. No, no, but where do you go to get the content? That's what I'm I... Dat Piff? Dat Piff? Where did you go to get... No, the internet changed shit, bro. No, no, but where do you go to get the content? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Dat Piff? It was Dat Piff, right? It was the blogs and it was Breakfast Club on YouTube. Yes or no? Just do the math for me. Tell me the other resource. Yo, you're not hearing what I'm saying. You're trying to give Breakfast Club credit for creating YouTube in terms of that content?
Starting point is 02:01:45 I didn't say creating YouTube. They're a byproduct. See, they're a byproduct. Here's the thing. Facts. Here's the thing. One important component. Go, go, go.
Starting point is 02:01:52 So he's a stand-up comedian, and he put his clips out on YouTube, and then those clips blew up. And you're trying to take credit away from Charlotte because you're saying- I'll take credit away from him and say, if the internet wasn't busting the way it was, he wouldn't be as big as he is. Oh, so if you're taking that credit away, that's stupid. No, no, no, you can't take credit for the times changing. The times change to the internet. I understand the argument.
Starting point is 02:02:18 The times is changing to the internet. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. Don't, don't, yo, no one person said we're going to internet. What you're trying to say is there's an appetite for this content and the internet provided a way for people to do it. Now, it takes a person. To do it. To make that jump. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:35 And wait for it. It takes a person to make that jump with talent to get all these people to realize they want to consume that content. What I think is the Breakfast Club, and I don't want to, I mean, I give Charlotte lots of credit, but I also give credit to Envy and Lee. What they did is, or Yee, my bad, I made her more Asian. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. She's going to be on the podcast. So basically what he did is brought that audience over there and found new audience that was going to be there. But they also fought to keep that content under there. And he understood the value of that YouTube content in the same way. No, he does.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Listen, we're not arguing the same thing. The only point I said is this. You're trying to say, oh, it's him bringing it to YouTube. I'm telling you that YouTube is inevitable for anything. I am a product. I don't say I create. Like, when people give me credit for being a genius, I said I'm also the. How many people copy you that don't succeed?
Starting point is 02:03:34 Hold on. But I'm the benefactor of place and time. How many people copy you that don't succeed? You're right. But I'm also the benefactor. I am also very honest. I'm the benefactor of being one of the first in that moment. But have you continued to succeed?
Starting point is 02:03:46 Every successful person is a benefactor. Have you continued to succeed? Okay, okay. Why? And that's what makes you bigger than, oh, just a successful person. You become a legend. Hear what I'm trying to say. You have to be able to move an audience if we're talking about Howard Stern.
Starting point is 02:03:59 And my whole thing is this. Listen, you keep talking about it. You're hating, dog. I'm hating? Hold on one second. One second. Yo, I would give the credit. Can I just?
Starting point is 02:04:13 I would give the credit. By the way, we're comparing it to, you keep saying hating, but it's like, bro, I'm comparing to the two biggest in the whole space. Howard Stern, Wendy Williams. If Charlamagne moved the Breakfast Club audience to go watch whatever TV show he got going on, Hell of a Week or anything else, now he did it. But having people watch it on YouTube, my nigga, they watch Charles White on YouTube. What the fuck are we talking about?
Starting point is 02:04:36 You know what I mean? I'm not somebody who thinks that I move people. Do you think I stand out and be like, yo, I move people away from linear or whatever to come to me? No, I was a benefactor of the times. Does content that is quality make people want to consume it on a new platform? I'm not saying it wasn't quality. Yes, you're right. Okay.
Starting point is 02:04:57 So there are plenty of people who put a stand-up clip or a stand-up video up on YouTube before me. Okay. I did it, and then it became a trend worldwide. That's not just because the internet blew up. It's because the internet blew up and skill. Every successful person. Your shows. Academics. No, no, no. He's right. Every successful person. Your shows. Academics.
Starting point is 02:05:26 No, no, no. He's right. My point is you need both. You need skill and you need trend. You're right except this. We've watched you exponentially grow to sell not the fucking guard, my nigga. Twice. Twice.
Starting point is 02:05:40 You're right. Thank you. Okay. Let's see that exponential growth for anyone else that you're going to compare to that saying it's just not the internet. Because you're right. It's skill that made that happen. So I haven't seen another Breakfast Club. No, no, no. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Play this. Name another radio show. Name another radio show. If Charlamagne does any other iteration other than the Breakfast Club, I hate this because it feels like I'm hating it. Because you kind of are. other than the Breakfast Club. I hate this because it feels like I'm hating it. And I'm definitely not. You kind of are because look at it. I don't think you're acknowledging the ability to take someone from traditional media.
Starting point is 02:06:10 What I think you're doing is you're looking at it through your- But there hasn't been anything else. Listen, you're looking at it through your lens and you're also looking through Wendy's lens, which is going from traditional to traditional, right? Yes. Where there are way less outlets for- So are you saying traditional to internet?
Starting point is 02:06:24 Let me get out, let me get out, let me get out. Go ahead. There are way less outlets for- So are you saying traditional to internet? Let me get out, let me get out, let me get out. Go ahead. There are way less outlets for distraction. When you're going from radio to TV, this is a time where nobody's even on the internet. Nobody's even watching these other things. This is a time where the YouTube isn't even playing a part in people's lives. So you're just searching for more distraction. You just have the TV on.
Starting point is 02:06:41 That's not to discredit from what Wendy's achieved. She's achieved immense success and incredibly talented. That being said, taking an audience from radio, regional radio, well, now it eventually became syndicated all over America. But regional at one point, turning into syndicated and then going to YouTube and becoming global. And the cornerstone of hip hop conversation is taking an audience to another place to the point where I would argue there was probably more people at one point watching on YouTube than there were listening on radio. And I haven't seen another traditional radio outlet do that.
Starting point is 02:07:21 So to me, what that says is, that says is there is one reason why that one specific platform was able to transition and nobody else was. And that's why I give it credit. If every other radio show just transitioned and it was huge, I'd go, okay, you got a point. The internet is just this thing and it's a trend that's taking over. The reason why I'm calling bullshit on what you're saying is because this is documented fact. What is? What I'm saying is it's going to be documented fact. What?
Starting point is 02:07:48 Show me the other radio station that did it. Go to 2017, 2018. I'm a singular person. I don't have nobody working for me. How many people think I work for The Breakfast Club? Me and The Breakfast Club, numbers-wise on YouTube, we're competitive within maybe one or two million. They're doing 35, I'm doing 33. In fact, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:08:09 I don't give myself the credit. So if I don't give myself the credit, I can't get him the credit. But that's your self-loathing. What I'm going to tell you... I don't give myself the credit for that. Your self-loathing. How? What I'm going to tell you is you don't... I was a part of a paradigm shift
Starting point is 02:08:25 you're nice bro definitely you're nice what I'm telling you is at the end of the day people back then no wait for it
Starting point is 02:08:37 back then no you know how you describe you describe a person you're like am I one to bite my tongue with credit you don't like compliments but nigga like with credit You don't like compliments But nigga like I know you don't like me
Starting point is 02:08:47 But nigga like You already know what you can do That was crazy That was crazy That was crazy No he doesn't But it's fine It's fine
Starting point is 02:08:54 I give it up to you I give it up to you Now I think you don't like me You don't like me Now I think you don't Cause you're just supposed to like him Cause he's black It's fine It's fine.
Starting point is 02:09:05 It's fine. He thinks I've hated on him in the past, and it's fine. And I've given up to you. But that's the thing. It's like, yo, you have still stand the test of time because you are good. There are a bunch of people who are doing the same exact things you do, but you still exceed because you're good, nigga. because you're good, nigga. And that's the same thing.
Starting point is 02:09:25 When we're talking about, let's create a different situation where we're not comparing you to Howard or Charlamagne or who else is there, Wendy or these people, right? We're just talking about the internet people. Who fucks with you?
Starting point is 02:09:39 You're one. You're number one for hip hop. Yeah. On internet, our generation, you're number one. Yes or no? I'm just, who isn. On internet, our generation, you're number one. Yes or no? I'm just, who is it? No, I agree with you.
Starting point is 02:09:48 And I still look at that and I'm like, put it like this. Yeah, just like Charmaine is number one at radio. But to really be number one, like when I see Howard and even Wendy to a certain extent, I see a number one that it doesn't matter. Wendy probably didn't even know she had a YouTube channel. By the way, Wendy's YouTube channel for her show. You know that people didn't have a choice back in the day, right? Wendy's YouTube channel for her show was doing millions of views.
Starting point is 02:10:19 She probably never knew she had one. Let me ask you. That was a byproduct of the time changing and people were consuming. My mother, before she started watching my shit, mom, please stop watching myself. She was watching Wendy Williams on YouTube because she couldn't catch
Starting point is 02:10:36 her during the daytime on TV. Now, listen, you're speaking of a time when people did not have a choice in the content they consumed. They were given options and they had to choose one. Now we have a choice. In my opinion, the people that succeed in the time of choice are the greatest
Starting point is 02:10:56 creators. I mean, if I can choose from a million different people, if every day I'm walking into a library essentially and I get to choose a million different people. If every day I'm walking into a library, essentially, and I get to choose all these different books, that's because what we're doing with the Internet. I have a choice. And if I keep choosing that same person, keep choosing that same person, not what fucking UPN gives me at 9 p.m., but what I want to consume. The people that win in that era are the greatest creators. That's what I'm saying. And my argument for you, which is my same argument,
Starting point is 02:11:26 and this is why I speak very highly of you. You know that. 100%. Because it's deserved. In the same way I speak of Sharla, because it's deserved. He came from a time where people were force-fed. They had four choices of radio shows in the morning.
Starting point is 02:11:43 You remember what it was like to switch with the radio. And then- He's the greatest of that. And then he also existed in a time where you could choose whatever you want, and they still chose it. You're making the point that I made when me and Drake had countless hours of conversation
Starting point is 02:12:03 about my criticism of his last album which is and i was basically telling drake i said yo drake you know because i felt he was a little bit sensitive joe had said some stuff but like i kind of felt a little bit like i don't know whatever whatever but like the way he lashed out on criticism i was like oh shit he's at the point where he's like yo i'm the guy. You just accept. Like, you're a fan. Accept what I.
Starting point is 02:12:28 And I was like, no, that's not how it goes. Like, I still can have my critique. And even with you saying that when it comes to everything in terms of how I'm, like, you know, receiving everything. Like, I don't believe that I actually love my strength on my back. Whether people decide that you are or you're not,
Starting point is 02:12:54 people are making a choice to consume your content. And when people make the choice to consume it, to me, those are the greatest creators because people have freedom of choice and they still choose to consume
Starting point is 02:13:06 these different people. This is what I was going to say. These days, me as a creator, and by the way, Schultz, you've always been so complimentary. It's one of those things. You're nice, bro.
Starting point is 02:13:21 I respect you for always keeping it even. i've seen you i don't believe it i will respect it but i feel nowadays compared to back then like i ain't gonna lie to you when people keep hyping up the warren shirac era of me yeah i was like bro they had no other option bro half the time i didn't know what's going on. I feel like I've done more work now than before. Because now I know there's competition. Back then, I just knew the secret sauce.
Starting point is 02:13:56 Be first, be consistent. No matter what I said, that's why people were looking at me as the law. Now I know there's 2,000 other people that's competing. I got to go so hard you know i mean and that's why i guess i i like what you're saying i'm like no no i don't believe that whatever is going on now um you know based on what i've done means you know it's it's good i'm like no i'm working the hardest now ever but what does working hard have to do with whether it's good or not because i think when you're you're even talking about charlotte you're giving credit about okay well you did this first what what you think is and
Starting point is 02:14:35 this is my assumption and then we can move on okay what i think and this is you projecting a little bit of your success on on to onto him which is there's a little bit of you that probably thinks that you blew up simply because it was right place, right time. Now, everybody blows up because it's right place, right time. Jeff Bezos was smart enough to realize that if he owned or offered the service of, what does he do? It's called Amazon Web Services. Yeah, yeah, yeah. offered the service of, what does he do? It's called Amazon Web Services.
Starting point is 02:15:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So essentially, he has this business which floats everything else, where he operates the actual internet space that holds the websites. The web hosting, yeah. So he hosts the websites. And that's where he made all the money, not making the fucking toilet paper,
Starting point is 02:15:19 but making all that money in this space that he had absolutely no competition for 10 years, allowed him to amass this wealth that builds this company, Amazon, that Amazon is this amazing company, right? He probably is looking at this like, all these dummies didn't figure out this thing. I'm a fraud. I shouldn't be this successful. No, no, no, no, no. You found the white space. You took advantage of the white space. And then when the competition came in, you still surpassed the competition because you're nice.
Starting point is 02:15:48 Success is knowing how to operate within your time and place that you were born. And that's every successful person. You can't be successful. That's the only way you can be successful. I think you're discrediting yourself a little bit because you're like, I was just right place, right time. So if anybody else was right place, right time, then that was what, you know, that's a little bit. No, no. It's recognizing right place, right time, seeing the white space in the market, taking advantage of that white space. And in your case, in Charlamagne's case, in my case with stand up, finding a way to get to tons of people.
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Starting point is 02:16:29 I will be honest with you. This is why I love Washington Flagrant. And by the way, all you guys are amazing. But I will say, that's a good point. That's an amazing point. Because I do think when I think about my success a lot and I discredit I probably don't play a lot of you know me and be like hey listen well I came through at that time and shit that was the time no you found it you found it that's crazy, when you were the faceless person who just gave hip-hop news, I was watching or listening or watching it regularly.
Starting point is 02:17:10 And then you started showing your face. And there were people around me who didn't like you. And still, I'm like, yeah, but you know what? He still serves a purpose. And it's like, you're doing a good thing. And you're doing it better than people. So you got to just recognize that, nigga, you're doing a good thing, and you're doing it better than people. So you got to just, like, recognize that, nigga, you doing it. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second because, listen, we have something special to announce.
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Starting point is 02:20:38 flagrant. That is it. You are welcome. No more needs to be said. Let's get back to the show. I don't know how to like uh take compliments it's not even compliments it's like i guess so because i'm one of those people like i've always heard about people not getting their flowers and i've always thought i'm like yo they've given me too many flowers oh really really like you're getting credit that you don't deserve yeah no no they're giving me credit where i'm like, damn, I thought y'all were going to be like, oh, fuck him.
Starting point is 02:21:08 And like even these days, I'll be around some of these media spaces with other like younger creators. I'll be like, yo, act, you're the go. And I'm like, damn, I'm the go for what? Yeah. You know what I mean? So I do have a— You are very controversial, though. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:21:24 It's not controversial, too. But it's like I'm also trying to figure out— You have imposter syndrome No no no It's not controversial But it's like I'm also trying to figure out You have imposter syndrome This is what our culture said But What do you mean Imposter syndrome
Starting point is 02:21:31 I had I struggle with this a lot You feel like Whatever success you're doing Whatever praise you're getting It's not real I'm actually not that good I'm not as good as people are telling me
Starting point is 02:21:39 Eventually they're gonna find out That this is all a fraud You were ready for hate Because that would confirm this thing That you're like Well I'm not good enough. And this shit might have come easy to you. That might be true.
Starting point is 02:21:47 Because I've always told people, I walk in a room and I'm looking for the hate. If it's too much love, I'm uncomfortable. Because you feel like you don't deserve it. Because it feels fake because you think you don't deserve it. But it also comes with the content you put out. Yeah. Because it's like, yes, it's like you with the content you put it up. Yeah. You, it's like, yes, it's like, you know, the content you put out.
Starting point is 02:22:07 Garner's hate. I feel like you're almost in, because there are so many people that have copied you and copying is okay. By the way, I think that like, when I say that, be being inspired by people and doing things that you see are successful is a very natural human thing for,
Starting point is 02:22:22 I hate to cut you off. Can I say one thing? Yeah. And, and, and, and I feel like we get a sense of, I hate to cut you off. Can I say one thing? Yeah, yeah. And I feel like I'm getting sentimental. I got to drink some more. I just filled you up.
Starting point is 02:22:29 I know you did. Pause. Saucy. Saucy. Yo. I remember I was in maybe like a few argument with someone
Starting point is 02:22:40 and they had said to me that they called me a hack. Yeah. It was so offensive to me. I was like, damn, am I just someone who's just like fucking, like when I think of a hack, it's someone who's talentless, who just happens to get by. Who's doing the same shit that everybody does.
Starting point is 02:22:56 Yes, and for me, there was a time that I was like, I wanted to see, and even though we'll even delve back to even like a trauma conversation, like even him acknowledging me, like that was a long time. Like I wanted his acknowledgement. But even when you acknowledged me, it was like, yo, man, act your good. And I was like, maybe I'm just not just doing some shit that like happens to work. Maybe I do have a talent, but there was a long time I was like trying to figure out what that was because I was
Starting point is 02:23:28 like, maybe I'm just lucky. Can I tell you something? I didn't know how I felt about you the first time you came on this podcast. I was like, I don't know. The content seems kind of negative, blah, blah, blah. You are fucking undeniable. And I messaged you after a couple of your podcasts and I was like, yo. That's why I came to your show.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Yo, well, I was just honestly and it was great. The episode was great. But then I started watching you your podcasts. And I was like, yo. That's why I came to your show. Yo. Facts. Well, I was just, honestly, and it was, the interview was great. The episode was great. But then I started watching you with other people. And I was like, yo, this guy's the best in the world right now. Yeah. And I said that to you. In this moment in time, whenever I messaged you, this guy's the best in the world at this. You are undeniable.
Starting point is 02:23:58 And that's why when you expect hate and get love, it's because you're undeniable. But it's good that, low key, it's kind of good that you feel this about yourself. Because it probably makes you work that much harder. I told Charles the same thing. I said, yo, listen, I always need to have, like, I need somebody hating on me. You need a trip in your shoulder. I need somebody like, yo, yo, he's a... Tom Brady thinks nobody believes
Starting point is 02:24:18 in him. Really? No, he doesn't. When Tom Brady starts every season, he thinks nobody believes in him. When Michael Jordan is going up against the Atlanta Hawks, he's making up shit talk from the other team. Every successful person has a little bit of a chip, and you kind of need it because it gives you that almost psychotic ambition. If you accepted who you were and your influence in the game and what your ability is, you might not try as hard. You know what I mean? You might just be sitting there chilling. I feel like I have so
Starting point is 02:24:50 much to prove, but it's just like, I feel like I'll even have conversations with people and I'll look at their eyes and be like, I'm like, is this motherfucking thing? And I'm like, yo, yo, you're just a product of luck. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not saying that we should be happy. I'm not saying that we should accept things because sometimes wanting more forces us to go.
Starting point is 02:25:08 But there is a version of it where you're like, hey, I am good enough. And this group of people that likes me, there are people that have no group. Some people have no group. Yo, Shulz, let me tell you this is a real story. I remember I was – I forgot what I was doing in New York, but I was coming, I was back in an Uber, and I was watching, I was watching your Charlemagne on Brilliant Idiots, and y'all were talking about, I went to Roots Picnic,
Starting point is 02:25:32 and, um, yeah, like, you know, this is kind of like a disaster a bit. And everybody's laughing at me, and they're like, yo, this guy's whatever. Oh, you did the live show at Roots. Yeah. And I ain't gonna lie, that shit really charged you up.
Starting point is 02:25:46 It fucked with me. Well, it fucked with me. It charged me up, but it fucked me. It was like, maybe you've been living in this delusion. Like, for example,
Starting point is 02:25:54 I did a live stream today, right? There's 30,000 people on it. And like, like this, like I've been online and for like so much of my career, I'm like, okay, people do like me.
Starting point is 02:26:04 And that shit and hearing how people talk to me, I was like, okay, people do like me. And that shit and hearing how people talk to me, I was like, no one likes you. You're a fucking dweeb that sits at home that like they like to laugh at and they laugh at you,
Starting point is 02:26:15 not with you. And that shit fucked me up and I remember watching, I'm like, and it brought me back to where I started when I first ever did anything. I said, because I used to chase these little love of hip-hop girls around trying to get interviews.
Starting point is 02:26:29 I wanted to do interviews. And I remember I skipped like, I missed like 10 days of work because there was this one particular girl. She was just always rescheduling. And I was like, I'm at my wit's end. I'm like, yo, if they don't like me for me, fuck this. It's not for me. And that's when I started doing independent commentary. I said, fuck that shit.
Starting point is 02:26:49 If they don't like me for what I say and I need to be sitting, because that was my thing. I need a cameraman because I'm like, I'm not going to just interview you. I want to be sitting next to you because I want to gain some fame. And once that happened, I was like, I was at my wit's end. But even when I saw that, like, it made me think I was like, I was at my wit's end. But even with, when I saw that, like, it made me think, I was like, you have to do a show. You need to figure out if, for the last 10 years,
Starting point is 02:27:12 what you've been working for, it's real. So you're, again, this is the imposter syndrome, and there's a worst case. And by the way, think about this. No matter what jewelry you see me with, no matter what cars, houses, I retired my mom, all this great stuff, it didn't matter to me. Of course.
Starting point is 02:27:27 All that mattered to me was just that, is what you think you were working for an accomplishment? Is it fucking real? Is all this fake? Is all this fake?
Starting point is 02:27:35 And then in that moment, that insecurity that you've always had, which is, this is all fake, all of a sudden, that insecurity became real.
Starting point is 02:27:44 You're like, fuck, this is all fake. Yo, I threw the show. I promise you, I cried half the show. Everybody who was there watched. I couldn't get a sentence out. I cried the whole time. I couldn't.
Starting point is 02:27:55 When I pulled up and I saw a line wrapped around the fucking building, I couldn't believe it. Because I was listening to, you know, obviously I'm'm polarized, so I had people who didn't like me. So they called in the first venue we had saying that I was going to have beef and a shootout there. They canceled it. I was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 02:28:13 it's not going to happen. One person took a chance on me and we did have the event. And when I pulled up and there was a line around the corner, I cried the whole time. Now, here's the thing. I cried tired.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Here's the thing. There's two things going on. I think that we've taken for granted the idea that just because somebody is watched somewhere, that people will come out to see them in person. And I think that that existed at a time where you barely got to connect with those people. And now we exist in a time where we get to connect with you all the time. So if I'm coming out to see you, you have to deliver some sort of live performance that I also want to see. I think there's a lot of people that really enjoy seeing you on your lives. It doesn't mean that they don't love you because they don't come to your live show.
Starting point is 02:29:04 They might just be going, well, what is he going to do for a live show? I don't know if I need to see that. For me, they see me do standup and they go, I need to see that in person. And that is my job. My job is to make sure that they feel I need to see that in person. I need to see that in person I've seen you both live and like the podcast is is like it's the podcast and then the live version of both of you
Starting point is 02:29:32 and I could get it and I remember like I remember the first time watching you and the first time watching you and like I'm just sitting there and I'm like this is like a different fucking monster yeah but you look at the stand-up clips and then you go you see someone see an akash clip and they're like oh shit i need to be in the room for
Starting point is 02:29:50 that i think what used to happen is if you were in a commercial people would come to see you do stand-up because they're like you're a famous person i saw you in a commercial the verizon guy are you there yet guy yeah i'll come watch you do stand-up because we never got the access to famous people. Now, just having a podcast doesn't mean they're going to see you in person. It's having great stand-up means they'll see you in person. Having a great album means they'll see you in person. Son, you know from rappers, just having music that people listen to doesn't mean they'll show up. Yeah. You got to have a great show. You got to build a great community. that people listen to doesn't mean they'll show up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:25 You got to have a great show. You got to build a great community. There's got to be purpose. Entertainment is so specific. You could blow on one platform. It doesn't mean they're going to see you in another. 100%. That's why I've even watched how you guys have kind of rose.
Starting point is 02:30:39 And I'm like, man, I was thinking about hip-hop recently. I've been speaking about it, and it's just like, there's less than 10 artists I really fully believe in a game that are selling music. Everybody's selling moments. They're selling experiences, movements. They're doing a lot of things, but they're not selling music. I feel like hip-hop's going through what rock music went through.
Starting point is 02:31:03 What do I mean? I feel like hip-hop's going through what rock music went through. What do I mean? Rock music came out, and it was the rebellious rejection of society. And it was fucking dudes wearing makeup and hair and tight jeans and fucking bitches and smashing. No, no, no. What I'm trying to say is— You describing Mark? No, he's trying to kill me.
Starting point is 02:31:26 That sounds awesome, the way he was talking about that. What I'm trying to say is... We ain't dying no time soon. No, I'm not saying he's dying. He's talking about Chanel. Don't start, Ak. Ak, don't start. Yo, the Nails is crazy.
Starting point is 02:31:39 What does he have? You got better nails than Yachty. Yeah. That's a compliment, bro. That is a compliment, but how's the inspiration to get that, though? Nigga, the sweat. The same way that you got put together.
Starting point is 02:31:57 It's pronounced **** actually. Nah, stop it. You're going to make him cry because he can't say that word. He'll say it for you. Are you going to say it for me? Yeah, we got a nice little bleep here. Oh, man. Thank you, Akash.
Starting point is 02:32:11 Akash has only had sex with one woman. Yo, yo, wait. How you feel about Saucy Santana? No, no, no. I ain't doing that. Saucy's an upstanding citizen, yo. What were we just talking about? What were we just talking about?
Starting point is 02:32:25 The Henny keeps your memory short. Rock and roll. citizen, young. What were we just talking about? What were we just talking about? The Henny keeps your memory short. Rock and roll. Oh, yeah. So I think like rock and roll was the rejection of everything at that point. And it became so famous and successful because we were like, oh, my Lord, we're supposed to be so good and proper in the 80s and 90s. And these rock and roll artists are doing whatever the fuck they want. These guys are the coolest people on the planet. I want to be like them.
Starting point is 02:32:45 And I think hip hop came in and did the same thing. It was the rejection of what you should do. And we were entranced by it. We're like, yo, these guys are the coolest guys on the fucking planet. And it wasn't only, oh, I'm going to kill people. It was, oh, I got bitches over here. Or it was, I'm going to say whatever the fuck I want to say. I'm going to say, fuck you to authority.
Starting point is 02:33:08 If you're a young white kid, black kid, Asian kid, you're like, wait, fuck you to authority? That's fucking awesome. Fuck authority. Now I think hip hop has become the predominant art form for America. And what happens with that is it's corny. And then people are chasing the success and the corniest of it.
Starting point is 02:33:27 There's no rebelliousness in hip hop anymore. Yeah, but think about it. It's normal. But who are we competing with? Country who was here before hip hop. Sorry, sorry. Country who was here before hip hop. You're saying country music.
Starting point is 02:33:39 Well, I think the reason country music is popular now is because it is the ultimate rejection of hip hop. If hip hop is pop culture, right? If hip hop is the art form that is synonymous with America, I know that sounds crazy to even say, but if you think about American music, to me, it's hip hop, right? Now hip hop hasn't a number one album all year, right? No number one hip hop album all year. So, and country music is killing it. What is the antithesis of hip-hop if you thought about it? Probably country.
Starting point is 02:34:09 Andre 3000 flute album or country? That's interesting. Now, country's popping because it is rebellious. Liking country is like you coming on here saying you like Donald Trump. Everybody's going to be like, oh, that's kind of crazy,
Starting point is 02:34:21 but also it's kind of fire, but oh, that's crazy. Being a person that's out here like, yo, country's cool. I'm going to wear the cowboy boots. I'm going to wear the cowboy hat. That's sagging your jeans now. That's wearing a bandana. That's putting on a grill.
Starting point is 02:34:34 Acting as if you're this country hillbilly motherfucker is a rebellion against modern, not even modern society, popular culture, which is dominated by hip hop. I also think rejection of the generation before you's culture. Which is dominated by hip hop. Which is dominated by hip hop. And what we used to always say, and I'm 39, I like every music but country, which is such a corny thing to say. That was a thing we said. But I like every country was like the pariah art form.
Starting point is 02:35:02 All music is cool, but country's so whack. So I think people saw that and were like, all right, that's the cool shit then. So I hear you and your arguments are very valid. But country was never not a thing. It was so big of a thing always that you had your own award show because that's how big of a thing. Wait, wait, wait. But I'm also saying it's like maybe hip hop came. It was that big, hot, new thing, and now we're just leveling out to now just new, like good music is what peaks.
Starting point is 02:35:37 You assume that, I think you're assuming I'm saying hip-hop is gone. I don't think it's gone. No, but you compare it to rock. Sorry, sorry? You compare it to rock, where rock is like inexistent. It's really not. Where's the rock album that was the number one hit? Sorry, sorry, sorry. You compared it to rock, where rock is like- I don't think rock is going. Inexistent. It's really not. I think- Where's the lack of rock album that was a number one hit? It's country, it's hip hop, it's Spanish.
Starting point is 02:35:51 But for example, there are rock bands that to this day, Coldplay can play wherever it wants, it's going to sell out anything. No, we're talking about pop culture. Right now, pop culture is country, hip hop, Spanish. So what I would say is that country is just now becoming pop culture. Like you said before, country existed within its niche audience.
Starting point is 02:36:12 Middle America didn't drive culture. Didn't drive culture at all. Huge, but didn't drive pop culture at all. Bro, there's a country star that dropped. I knew country songs when I was a kid like that. Which ones? I don't know, Apple. Garth Brooks. Yeah, like the ones that just broke the surface. Apple. Garth Brooks. The ones that just broke the surface. Were you trying to dress like that?
Starting point is 02:36:28 It was like ironic. You liked it ironically. If it broke the surface and black people heard about it, that's... Black people were not fucking with country. You know a couple of country songs. Jamaicans love country. This is true. I'm from the country. Son, Kenny Rogers or whatever.
Starting point is 02:36:43 I think it's Kenny Rogers. Kenny Rogers would go to Jamaica and play the fucking stadium. Jamaicans love country music, bro. Achy Breaky Heart was a punchline song. We all laughed at it. It was sarcastically like that. We like anything with a little bit of substance.
Starting point is 02:36:59 I do think that hip-hop is suffering from that now. It's about music that's for the here and now and there's not much substance to it. And I think that music is being so recyclable and replaceable and microwavable that, yeah, it's not going to do that much other than be here for the next two months, then go away. And then you see people kind of gravitate towards the shit that's actually lasting. So perhaps, you know, that's a part of it.
Starting point is 02:37:29 But, you know, I've definitely been watching that. Hip hop is a little bit, it seems like the perception. There's nothing surprising about hip hop. There's nothing shocking about hip hop. And also what is going to happen if you become the predominant art form. Exactly. It's going to start to lack acceptance
Starting point is 02:37:44 because people just want to do it to be famous. And also people get watered down. When you become the mainstream thing, it becomes watered down. It becomes a little bit more cookie cutter. You have the greatest producers in the world that are all producing the same songs. That's why all pop songs sound the same because they're produced by the same five people or whatever. So the same thing is happening with hip hop. So the sound becomes synonymous.
Starting point is 02:38:02 And that's not to say that these producers aren't fantastic. But when they're the only ones producing the music, it sounds a little similar, right? So then you hear something a little different. What's really popping right now? Afro beats. Because it's different. The sound is different. It is unique.
Starting point is 02:38:19 It is organic. It is a, I'm not saying a rejection or rebellion, but it is at least a little bit of a different wave from what you've been listening to and now that's killing it when I listen to Afrobeats these days it's so distinct than when I listen to hip hop I listen to Lil Baby he's rapping about the clothes he bought the bitches he fucked the people he gonna shoot
Starting point is 02:38:39 and it feels like it's in one ear and out the other and when I'm listening to like Afrobeats whether it's like you's in one ear and out the other. And when I'm listening to like Afrobeats, whether it's like, you know, Asake, Thames, I'm listening to Rima, I'm listening to Burner Boy. It feels like it's shit that like I'm like, oh, they're talking about love. They're talking about, you know, feeling good. They're talking about things that like. What's the rejection of negativity? Positive.
Starting point is 02:39:03 But how do you explain Burner Boy's album sales? A lot of that is we don't know what he fucking said. Hold on, hold on. First of all, that's a whole smoking murder because you see, Burner Boy is an international artist. Oh, by album sales, you meant not enough. What I would report on my page. Speak on this shit. What I would report on my page is what you sold or what you streamed in the United States.
Starting point is 02:39:33 Burna Boyz A, international artist like Bad Bunny is. For example, I'll use this breakdown. Drake last album. By the way, Taylor Swift owns the record for most streams in a year okay before her two years ago actually a year ago burner boy broke the record by july base number one number bad money bad money streams way more than dra. We look at Drake like, oh, he's the GOAT. Drake streams on all platforms globally, does not even hold a candle to what he does. Latin's listened to a lot of music. Right?
Starting point is 02:40:14 Now, here's the thing. In the US, we still only report on what the US sales does. We don't report globally. So for example, Drake drops an album, Bad Bunny drops an album. Drake's album in the Bad Bunny dropped an album. Drake's album in the US sold 400,000. Bad Bunny's album sold 200,000. Except if we look globally, Bad Bunny's album sold
Starting point is 02:40:33 three times more than Drake. Oh, shit. Basically, the US market is just not... Everything is now turned globally. So there used to be a time where if you're an African artist, if you're an artist from Puerto Rico, if you're an artist from anywhere, you need to get to the United States to really be legit. These days, the United States is not even the primary market. So for example, Burner Boy, for example, Lil Durk sells 120,000 records first week. Burner Boy in the U.S. sold 25,000.
Starting point is 02:41:12 Lunder can't do 15,000 or can't even do 10,000 in New York City. Burner Boy did Citi Field. So explain that because we're talking about U.S. numbers and like if U.S. numbers and Drake did more than we want. I think there's another piece of information that's missing from this conversation, which is the labels buying streams, and it's so rampant that I think Spotify said, yo, we're going to start punishing labels
Starting point is 02:41:38 for it. I don't think he's ready to speak on that because he gets paid by the labels. No, no. What? I speak on anything. You get paid by the labels? Oh, yeah. I? I speak on anything. You get paid by the labels? Oh, yeah. I pay for them all. But anyway, here's the thing. That's a yes.
Starting point is 02:41:50 In case anyone gets it. Oh, and I will speak. Listen. What are you going to do? Not cut me a check? I'm the number one. You got to cut them all. You got to cut me a check. Listen, I'll say this.
Starting point is 02:41:58 So wait, when you post somebody, it's because they paid? No, no, no. Yes. Most likely not. Most likely not. Stop it. Can you just be real? No, I'll tell you the truth. If you post somebody's music, it's because they paid? No, no, no. Yes. Most likely not. Most likely not. Stop it. Can you just be real? No, I'll tell you the truth.
Starting point is 02:42:07 If you post somebody's music, it's because they paid. No. Because you're either posting hip-hop news, and then when it's music, it's because they paid. Me and Playboy Cardi, who, by the way, we got some stuff coming up. I've been posting his stuff. He doesn't pay. Me and French Montana, who's a friend of mine, who brought me to a Richard Mey party, where I was trying to finesse a Richard Milley, he doesn't pay. Don't buy that awful watch.
Starting point is 02:42:27 The majority of people, huh? It's an awful watch. No, I wasn't going to pay. I was around the guy who, like the Richard Milley guy. Respect to him as like a watch engineer, like his ability to build a watch. But like the watches are disgusting. He doesn't hate it. That's some hater shit.
Starting point is 02:42:43 They're truly disgusting. It's hater shit. They're very gaudy. It's just because you don't like it. I've seen one or two I don't hate, but typically I hate them.
Starting point is 02:42:50 They're disgusting. This is what I was going to... None of you guys are white. Ew. Poverty. Wait, wait. This is what I was going to say to you. This is what I was going to say
Starting point is 02:42:58 to you about streaming. Yeah. And people don't understand this about streaming. It's the orange Lamborghini Urus. How do you feel about bus downs? Well, I have a yellow Lamborghini Urus. I don't like bus downs. Don't be just me. You can's the orange Lamborghini Urus. How do you feel about bus downs? Well, I have a yellow Lamborghini Urus.
Starting point is 02:43:06 I don't like bus downs. Don't know what I'm saying. You can't get rid of the Urus. Can I help you with things? Can I make this point about music, brother? Because I know you want some of my cars. Go. What car you got?
Starting point is 02:43:16 A Beetle. I have a... Jesus. Bro. He's a Beetle thing. Hey, can you tell him? God. Tell him,, can you tell him? God Tell him, tell him, tell him
Starting point is 02:43:28 So Andrew made a kit car, which is a fake Porsche Do you know what a kit is? Your hair looks great, sorry So there's a, basically, very quickly I'll get through this It's just a fake car A 356 Porsche Speedster is a This is the car
Starting point is 02:43:43 It's half a million dollars. You can't even find one if you wanted to. You can afford it. I found a $50,000. They basically make one out of an old Beetle. You pay $50,000 for that? That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:44:00 Wait, wait, wait. As annoyed as I am, I am. It's a replica Jordan. It's like people act like... Yeah, it's a fake Jordan. It's a fake Jordan. It's a Chrysler 300 acting like... No, no, it's not a Chrysler 300 Jordan.
Starting point is 02:44:11 It's a replica Jordan. It's a fake Jordan. It looks exactly like it, but it just wasn't made at the time Jordans were made. That's it. Exactly. What about the internet shit like that? So what? No, nothing.
Starting point is 02:44:21 Nothing. It's the same. But everything made to spec. But I guess, whatever. The point is, it's a beautiful... I'm not like a car guy. It's made to spec. But I guess whatever. The point is, it's a beautiful. I'm not like a car guy. I go to the subway. It's stunningly beautiful.
Starting point is 02:44:30 That's what it is. Look at that car. Stunning. But it was a Frankenstein monster. It was a death trap. I mean, look at that. So supposedly that's supposed to cost how much? That would cost $400,000, $500,000.
Starting point is 02:44:44 And the one you had cost $50,000. That's a... Thank you! White boy shit, man. Jamaican's game. No, no, no, no. He didn't get to finish the story. Is that Jewish shit?
Starting point is 02:44:54 He didn't finish the story. Whoa. This right here, y'all can get the... He didn't get to finish the story. Yeah, yeah. Oh, well, the problem is that it didn't work in a little far. If y'all find out this ain't worth what I paid for it, I'm dropping my jewelry. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. The car didn't work in a little far. I found out this ain't worth what I paid for it. I'm jumping my jaw. She's asking now.
Starting point is 02:45:05 She's asking now. The car didn't work in a little while. He's white. He's white. So you got to, like, white people do. Hey, no. But we're not going to do the bus down anymore. The car didn't work.
Starting point is 02:45:14 Tell them the funny. You guys don't even know this story. The car didn't work. It lit on fire. It stopped working. It was very bad. We're trying to sell it. He asked.
Starting point is 02:45:21 The car is so beautiful that people still want to buy it. And they're like, we'll just put our own engine in it. It's stunning. We'll figure it out. It is what it is. The bus down thing. Wait, yes, go, go. You didn't finish it.
Starting point is 02:45:32 So he's like, sell the car, get the car sold. We have a new business manager. And the business manager, I said, get us the paperwork for the Porsche Speedster, but it's a kit car. He gets back to me a week later. He's like, we can't find the documentation. Like, what's going on?
Starting point is 02:45:48 What's this car? This fucking dumb idiot over here. And he's like, this idiot didn't tell them that it was a kit car. So they were looking for a fucking Porsche Speedster. So they're trying to find this registration for a real Porsche. The businessman called and he says,
Starting point is 02:46:02 is the car a Volkswagen Beetle? Because they use a Volkswagen Beetle chassis to make the car. It's registered in Arizona. Anyway, whatever, whatever. Moving on. Keep going. Oh, the bus down thing.
Starting point is 02:46:16 You know that with the bus downs, we're not doing that. You could do it with the Cartier watch, but we're not doing it with the, we're not doing it with Rolexes. We're not doing it with. No, no, no. Fuck this.
Starting point is 02:46:24 What if it's factory? There's no such thing as a factory bust down, but there's a factory diamond bezel on watches, etc. What I was actually trying to explain in terms of... Answer that one. This is my first watch. I'm not a watch guy.
Starting point is 02:46:40 Why don't you just call me and then... Bro, this is my first watch. It's $25,000. This is a fucking Cartier little watch. Also, bust it down to Santos. Hold on, hold on. You can't really be selling. I'm pretty sure... Listen, I talked to my man Vlad.
Starting point is 02:46:51 He's extra white. I think he's Jewish. He told me, no more of this shit. You know what I mean? You get one of these... I thought you were Jewish. That's why you had the thing sticking out of the side of your hand. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:47:01 I get that. Hey, but... So, yeah. So, I won't be doing this to like every watch. I'm not the only watch. Yeah, that's the only watch. You know what I mean? And to be honest, like I also bought it like an obnoxious piece that goes around like one of the Cubans.
Starting point is 02:47:22 It looks so stupid because like when the guy told me, it's like, yo, it's 3D. It's like, yo, you're the prize. We're going to build you a box. It's going to be like a present. It opens up. The scorpion pops up. It looks so crazy. I'm glad you're out of that era.
Starting point is 02:47:32 But here's the thing. It's not that era. You have to do it once. Duval's Toilet is Fire. You got to have your moment. Yeah, you got to have your moment. And also, I think it's so different for dudes coming from the internet era. Because nobody knows if anybody on the internet is making money. There are people on TikTok that are the most famous people, and you're like, but are they making money?
Starting point is 02:47:53 Everybody's watching, but they're making money. So I get you got to let motherfuckers know, no, this is different. We're out here. We're getting paper. But the biggest flex is not flexing. Yes. The richest motherfuckers are wearing khakis and fucking sandals.
Starting point is 02:48:07 The rich white guys. Diddy ain't gonna lie. Diddy still flex on these. The black dude that owns the fucking oil. The guy doing the freak off is still going crazy. But he not the richest. Diddy not the richest. Jay got fucking dreads. He's wearing like oversized t-shirts
Starting point is 02:48:24 and shit like that. That's Alzheimer's right there. Jay wears the dreads. He's wearing oversized t-shirts and shit. That's Alzheimer's right there. Jay wears the crazy one. Hold on, hold on. Maybe he does. They flex in different ways. They flex with their private planes. So the point about all the streaming stuff like that, right, which I think a lot of people misconstrued with streaming,
Starting point is 02:48:41 there's a lot of people, like, for example, I talked to my man, Carl Cher from Spotify. Who? You're good at staying on topic. Carl Cher, right? And his thing was this. He said, yo, Ak, here's the thing about streaming that people never really consider, right? Whether we're talking about Bad Bunny, we're talking about Drake, whoever.
Starting point is 02:48:57 He said, yo, have you guys ever heard of the rapper Yeet? Yeah, of course. Okay. yeet yeah of course okay he said by numbers yeet has the smallest audience that streams his music the most his average fan listens three times as much as any other fan so it all so also this is why stream is also a little bit like it could be manipulative because when you hear that someone does 300 million streams you're like oh my god how many people stream that it could be two million people that stream that right as opposed to like say somebody else they had 18 million people that did that it's very interesting it's very interesting that's the interesting thing about streaming that sometimes people don't think about somebody bought your album back in the day,
Starting point is 02:49:46 your CD, your cassette, you didn't know how many times they listened to it. So you didn't know if somebody was a casual fan or a super fan. Yeats has super fans. It might not be everybody, but he has super fans. And how we
Starting point is 02:50:02 view somebody like that, it might be over amplified in terms of their like global ubiquitous success. But it is underappreciated in terms of the investment of those people. If they listen 200 fucking million times or whatever it is to your album, they come out to your shows. They're going to go watch the Minions movie and dress up. They like they're really locked in. So let me ask you this question, right? Would you rather have
Starting point is 02:50:29 let's say 100,000 fans that will watch your special or come to your show 50 times versus having a million fans that will watch your special and come to your show two times? Two times total
Starting point is 02:50:46 in their life? Two times for, let's say, the next four years. I understand the question that you're asking, but you're saying it's different with stand-up because when people...
Starting point is 02:51:01 So with music, I would rather what Yeet has. With stand-up. So you'd rather the small audience that's just really tapped in. Dying for you. But what about stand-up and comedy? Would you rather the bigger audience that like, hey, maybe they came to see you once in the last. Let me give you an example.
Starting point is 02:51:20 Go ahead. Do you know the band Fish? Yeah. Seems like a setup, right? Yeah, that's it. Don't fall for it. So there's Fish, there's Tool,
Starting point is 02:51:33 there's, what's that shit? Grateful Dead. Grateful Dead. You never heard of these bands? Okay, I've heard of Grateful Dead. So all these bands, this is actually fantastic.
Starting point is 02:51:42 So all these bands have unbelievable live shows. They're like, well, at least with Grateful Dead and I think Fish, they're like jam bands. So they just go out there So all these bands have unbelievable live shows. They're like, well, at least with Grateful Dead and I think Phish, they're like jam bands. So they just go out there, start ripping. It's not exact songs, but they do have songs. But they've cultivated such a community. People go there, they exchange T-shirts.
Starting point is 02:51:59 They exchange cassettes from other shows. Going there is like almost a festival experience when they go to the show. And people will go to 30 shows. They'll travel with Fish. These people that I say are like the owners of basketball teams. 30 is a low number. People will be like, this is my 100th Grateful Dead show. So their audience isn't even close to as big as Lil Baby's audience. But those people.
Starting point is 02:52:20 Oh, that's how they spell it. And show him like what their show will be at Madison Square Garden. So Fish has performed at MSG 79 times. 79 times. No, they're gonna do another one. They're about to do The Sphere. They're gonna do The Sphere. So these bands, they don't have the biggest- Do they have original songs?
Starting point is 02:52:36 Of course, but they've cultivated an audience like what you're saying with Yeet, where it's just they are diehard fans, the experience is unbelievable. But the average person might not even know who the fuck they are. Show them what the show looks like. I got to pee. I got to pee. All right, guys, we're going to take a break real quick because you got to know about Morgan and Morgan.
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Starting point is 02:55:19 Yes, Tory Lanez. What's up? How do you feel about that? Because now you have the driver who has said he's seen Kelsey hold the gun. So are you vindicated now? Because you were saying that Tory is innocent and you were the biggest preacher of Tory being innocent. No, no, I was not. And he wasn't innocent.
Starting point is 02:55:40 No, you were the biggest preacher of Tory being innocent. I was a skeptical and a doubter of what was being told as the the normal story we all have a brain okay like for example the story that was being told is that if i told you a story right and again if i told you a story that someone shot a woman because if i told you that you shot or i told you that akash shot a female comedian because she dissed his comedy abilities or his lack of comedic success you'd be like uh i don't know if he's shooting women over him being dissed over that yeah right now if you give a better story maybe you would would be believing it, even though Akash is your friend.
Starting point is 02:56:26 The story was rather weak when it came to Magnus Stallion. And I'm going to be honest with you. You know, again, I wasn't there at the trial. He was found guilty. You don't see me outside the jail like free Tory lays. I'm like, I ain't is what it is. I left it alone. Recently, though, the driver came up, which, by the way, here's the thing. If you're going to think about this night, you have three people who go to a party. It's a college generous party. They're all intoxicated.
Starting point is 02:56:51 Apparently, one of them is about to be passed out. Try one of these. What is this? That's a weed shit. I'm good. It's not weed. It's a Zin. It's nicotine.
Starting point is 02:57:03 Oh, hell no. No, no, no. You're going to be hooked. I'm good. It's not about a hook. You won't get hooked. Oh, hell no. I'm good. It's a zin. It's nicotine. Oh, hell no. No, no, no. You're going to be hooked. I'm good. I'm good. It's not about a hook. You won't get hooked. Oh, hell no.
Starting point is 02:57:07 Uh-uh. I'm good. It's like a dip. No, no, no. Just try it. No, no. Will you just try it? I got an addictive personality for real, for real.
Starting point is 02:57:14 This is not going to make you addictive. He has an addictive personality. No, no. I have a really addictive personality. You see, whatever you're doing right there, you're going to see me with a mouth full of acorns, my nigga. We're not doing this shit. You're not going to get of acorns, my nigga. We're not doing this shit. You're not about to go get me like, nah,
Starting point is 02:57:27 we're not doing this. Nah, I can't do it, brother. You can literally take it out a second afterwards. You're not going to feel anything. Just try one. No, I can't do it, brother. I can't do it. Just try the white boy shit for one. Why are you so afraid? We drank Hennessy the whole time. We finished a whole... No, no, I get it. I get it. What is this? That's a bottle.
Starting point is 02:57:44 It's not a fifth? Yeah, it is. It's like a fifth of Hennessy's a bottle. Is that a fifth? It's like a fifth. It's not a fifth. It's more than a fifth. Wait a minute. Here's the thing. Yo, Andrew, I can't do it. That's so funny.
Starting point is 02:57:54 Yo, I am like, I'm an addict. One thing I've realized. How many fluid ounces is it? We can do the math. I can't do it. Why don't you try one? No, no, no, because I'm going to be addicted. You're not going to be addicted.
Starting point is 02:58:04 It's such a stupid thing to think. Also, you're probably an alcoholic anyway, so what are you going try one? No, no, no, because I'm going to be addicted. You're not going to be addicted. It's such a stupid thing to think. Also, you're probably an alcoholic anyway, so what are you going to say? No, no, no. Probably. All right, so hold on. Let me ask you a question. Akash, when you see me. When you see me.
Starting point is 02:58:15 Why do you say it like that? No, I have to. That's not a racial. That's not a racial. No, no, no, no. Yeah, it was so angry. So when you see me on a date with Saucy Santana for one of these, you're going to be like, oh, he's an addict?
Starting point is 02:58:25 Would you go on a date with Saucy Santana for some money? You never're going to be like, oh, he's an addict? Would you go on a date with Saucy Santana for some Hennessy? You never know. I might be an addict. I might be strung out by that. Would you go on a date with Saucy for some Hennessy? No, no, no, because Hennessy is very plentiful. I don't know where you got that from. Zin?
Starting point is 02:58:36 You get strung out on nicotine? It's hilarious. You can get these at the bodega. This is way more available than anything in your life. Way more available than alcohol. No, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 02:58:44 This is a peer pressure. Hey, no, no, no. I'm good. I'm good. That is peer pressure. Hey, let me tell you this. If anyone wants to be like, hey, how did academics succeed? Hennessy. Well, even before then, at the probably most pivotal point in my life, I have a very addictive personality. I eliminated everything. I didn't play video games. All I did was I was addicted to work.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Now, these days, I'm addicted to Henny and a few other things. But at the time, I was the most down bad. I eliminated everything. I was addicted to only doing what was going to give me some progress. Now you're up. Good. Yeah, and here's the thing. So now, like, I'm addicted to playing Fortnite.
Starting point is 02:59:20 Bro, like, that's some—you rubbing your gums? What the fuck is going on? Yeah, I want to show you. You don't have to do it like that. You got to get on both sides. You made a little little suspect you had to get on both sides how'd you make it gay how'd you make zin's gay wait you're addicted to fortnite white people yeah i play fortnite all the time it's like well i well i use it to de-stress but like you could call it addiction because i played a lot is there another game uh well like nba 2k but like uh well you're not good
Starting point is 02:59:42 at that of course i'm really good at it wait so you play it on... Well, you're not good at that. Of course, I'm really good at it. Wait, so you play it on stream? Because when you're on stream, you're usually talking. Listen, really, I'm addicted to gambling. You just always say... What do you mean you're addicted to gambling? No, I am, I am. How so? It's something I'm not really proud about.
Starting point is 02:59:59 How much money are you putting down? And are you getting paid? Getting paid? No, no, this is like personal money. I've lost over $3 million gambling. God damn, bro. This is the way I laugh about it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 03:00:14 No way. And you won't do a Zin? Huh? You won't do a Zin? No, but hear what I'm saying. How much do you make? Well, net total is minus three. Three million down.
Starting point is 03:00:23 I want you to look up. So he lost more. Yeah, you know, it's. Hold on. That's just the balance. well net total is three million down I want you to look up three million dollars it's not something you should be proud of so like with eight percent interest over 20 years if anybody who gambles you've lost money I just know because like I've gambled on one website a lot to the point where they give me all the... I could go to any game and I get box seats at Madison Square Garden and Prudential Center.
Starting point is 03:00:53 You don't even shout out that name. That's how bad he is. What are you gambling on? It's like a virtual app, which is the worst because... Not even sports? No, like Jack, but you see you see virtual money Realty it looks like it's the idea of chips It's the worst thing because I've been it
Starting point is 03:01:18 $60,000 on a single hand before and I couldn't fathom sitting in person and see 60,000 in front of me in bed. But online, it just looked like a number. You know what I mean? This is off a million. I couldn't even do 3 million. So can you put in three? No, I wouldn't let me do three.
Starting point is 03:01:34 So if you had $1 million and you just got 8%, so you just put it in a market, you got 8%, which is conservative, over how long? 20? 20 years. You would get 4.6 out of it. Now, listen, that's not—3 million is going to be even more compound on that.
Starting point is 03:01:50 No, of course. Wow. And by the way, we all have our vices. Hold on. We all have our vices, though, let's be honest. You don't have a vice? I want you to know your real cost of your vice. No, of course.
Starting point is 03:02:02 No, and by the way, I have definitely taken steps to, you know, stop that. What did you do? Well, really, I don't really play as much anymore. You stopped gambling? Yeah. Or you completely stopped,
Starting point is 03:02:15 or you... I mean, significantly decreased, like 90%. How do you limit yourself? Shit, I ain't gonna lie, my bank limited me. I ain't gonna lie. It was like, yo,
Starting point is 03:02:24 if you're gonna put a quarter million dollars in a fucking casino, hold on. Let's talk to you for a second. So really, you had a real addiction with this? I mean— This is a very common thing. I just want to let you know. You're not like the only person. No, definitely call it that.
Starting point is 03:02:36 Is that why you shit on Drake's album? Because of the steak? No. No, actually, well, here's the thing, too, which, you know, I could definitely get a gambling. In a heartbeat. Before I signed to Rumble, Kick wanted to do some stuff with me. Why wouldn't you do it? I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 03:02:53 I didn't want to get too much into gambling because it was going to enable that habit. So they would give me millions to gamble, too, right? To gamble. And it would just make you. But, like, I was at that. I'm going to tell you. I knew my gambling was a little bit out of control. Like, I remember losing $400,000 three times.
Starting point is 03:03:13 Jesus fucking Christ, dude. Because I couldn't, I needed, I wanted to have half a million before I withdrew. And I gambled and gambled and I lost it three times. I never got to the half a million. Yeah, yeah. Wow. And you get to realize, you know what I mean? I tell people, million. Yeah, yeah. Wow. And you get to realize, you know what I mean? I tell people,
Starting point is 03:03:26 I'm like, hey, listen. Just alone in your home, just you. Yeah. What do you do right after that? Go to sleep. I mean,
Starting point is 03:03:34 at that point, sometimes. That's why you got to say why you were emotional with the saucy shit. I don't know. You had nothing to do with saucy. No, no, no.
Starting point is 03:03:41 I was like, the game website made me a potty boy. If anything, if anything, I would no. I was like, the gambling site made me a potty boy. If anything, if anything, I would probably say for people like Saucy, if I'm losing $400,000 multiple times,
Starting point is 03:03:54 if you think me and you about to be boxing, you in for a really bad surprise. It's got to be big money. No, I'm trying to say I'll get you knocked off before I do anything like that with you.
Starting point is 03:04:03 What does that mean, knocked off? I don't know what that means. No one knows what that means. Sounds like have sex with. Beat him up and then have sex with him. Knocked up. Knocked up?
Starting point is 03:04:11 Yeah, you knock him up. Knocked up like that movie, Knocked Up. How do you navigate streaming on all different platforms and also having ads? That's kind of interesting, but I love love live streaming this is a year of live streaming it really is bro it's the it's i've i've honestly taken a slight hit especially after you know we we culminated our podcast um contract with um spotify what do you think the future of that is with spotify well because spot Spotify is firing people like crazy. They're making more money now. They're saving money.
Starting point is 03:04:48 So you think they invested all the money in terms of to gain market share. Now they have market share and they're like, okay, we don't need to invest as much in private. They're going to do a little bit more content, but I think at this point, they're just trying to find ways to make revenue.
Starting point is 03:05:04 I think they're a new thing because now they're the trying to find ways to make revenue right i think they're new thing because now they're the number one in in podcast listening they're gonna probably try to incite and offer it to people who they don't have to pay exclusive contracts to them but okay listen we have a monetization strategy where you can do as for us so just like youtube they're trying to compete with you yeah yeah no of course, you know, obviously, I think they knew what they were doing with the exclusive contracts. And pretty much, I think, from what I last was told, it was like they only got like about four left. Why didn't they re-sign you or why didn't you re-sign with Spotify? It was kind of mutual.
Starting point is 03:05:41 Like, first of all, what they were asking for, it didn't make sense for us to continue. What were they asking for? A lot of episodes per week. But I mean, you stream a lot. The way you stream is like a nine to five job. There were three podcasts from Spotify that I think would have viral moments. It was Joe Rogan. What's her name?
Starting point is 03:06:05 Call her daddy. Academics. Yeah. I don't know another podcast that would have viral moments. Now, I'm not Daniel Elk. I don't know what he's looking for. Maybe he feels like your market share is already there or something. But I don't know another podcast that would have viral moments
Starting point is 03:06:25 that exist on the internet than those three. They're not paying for viral moments. I don't know if they're listening to just viral moments. I listen to NPR news and shit like that on Spotify daily.
Starting point is 03:06:40 Put it like this. Spotify has been a very interesting position for the last year where with all due respect on Spotify daily. Put it like this. Spotify has been in a very interesting position for the last year where, with all due respect to the top two podcasts who they claim as top two is Rogan and...
Starting point is 03:06:54 What do you mean they claim? Well, I mean, I know Rogan's number one, but they claim that Corner Daddy's number two. And you don't believe that?
Starting point is 03:07:01 What do you mean that they claim? Well, I mean... I think she has a massive market with whatever. No, no, she does, but if you look at all podcast stats, Rogan always comes number one. I don't know if she always comes number two.
Starting point is 03:07:11 But again, it's their asset, so it's number two for them. You get what I'm saying? No. No, tell me what you think about that. She's saying that even if they're not number two, they're going to say she's number two because she has a contract. That's number two for them. Let's just move her to two.
Starting point is 03:07:26 Which makes sense. At the point that they're at is they're not looking for necessarily viral moments and shit like that. I think they're looking for okay, we have to keep these two to keep
Starting point is 03:07:43 a significant audience here. But the majority of their traction and audience were not coming from creator-filled podcasts. Like, for example, I've seen some of the stats, like most of their listenership, because it stopped becoming about, okay, how much do you guys publish a week? Once or twice? Once regular and then once Patreon. Okay. So once.
Starting point is 03:08:09 So great. You guys might do phenomenal numbers, but they're like, well, we have NPR or we have whoever. It's every single day. And they're doing more volume. And also they're like, you know, some of these like true crime podcasts, it's not necessarily about unique visitors. It's about how many people you could get coming. So really, they're looking at it like, even with us, they would have wanted us to drop every day. They want hours, listen.
Starting point is 03:08:38 Yes. It's like, because I got into, me and my lawyer was arguing about this. It was like, yo, hey, listen, per the contract, you just need to drop. And I'm like, if the content isn't good, I don't want to drop. They're like, you just have to drop. And I'm like, it's going to water down the brand. They're like, well, listen, it's all about just getting the content out. So that's a different strategy than what most creators would want, right?
Starting point is 03:09:04 So, like, if you guys signed, I don different strategy than what most creators would want, right? So, like, if you guys signed, I don't know, what's the number for you guys? $40 million? $300 million. $300? Mm-hmm. Well, he's just not into anything. $300?
Starting point is 03:09:18 Maybe $300. Okay, I bet. Yeah, nine figures. Okay, cool. You got Rogan's contract, right? I think Rogan does three a week or two a week? Four, I think, sometimes. Yeah, sometimes. Really? Okay, cool.
Starting point is 03:09:29 Now you guys have to do eight a week. Also, you have to keep a career up. Can't do it. Yeah. Okay. I'm out. So now you can't really do it, but you are in this contract. You're trying to do it.
Starting point is 03:09:44 I don't think people realize what Rogan does, bro. It's insane. Of course. And not just the number of episodes, the duration of each episode. Of course. And every person he's speaking to, except comics, is an expert in their fields, and he has to know what the
Starting point is 03:09:59 fuck they're talking about to ask questions about it. He's fucking amazing. And does two hours of comedy a week at the comedy club. And with us, if there's a moment where I'm not listening, he's probably listening, he's probably listening, he's probably listening. He's locked in.
Starting point is 03:10:13 We're all listening. He's all him. It's insane. God, gosh. Yes. So that's the thing. So once you realize, because so Spotify, other than for the flagship you know
Starting point is 03:10:29 at first the contracts that they're giving out is hey we're we're we want we're doing user acquisition contracts hey well act you're the hip-hop guy or say before me joe button we want to get the hip-hop people over here so we're paying you really to bring the hip hop audience. Right. Right. Okay. Well, Joe Rogan, you're this guy. We're paying for your audience to come here.
Starting point is 03:10:52 And that's cool for the first year or two. Then the mentality turns into, well, shit. It's also about the sales team. Now what the sales teams need. They need. They need views. Views. Yeah. A lot of episodes. Yeah need... They need views. Views. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:11:06 A lot of episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So now it's like, okay, cool. All these celebrity podcasts they did that was supposed to be once every month. Those are done. So now they're like, for the regular podcast, say they gave you a contract,
Starting point is 03:11:20 they're like, well, we said you was cool with once a month, but we need to up it up. So their business model changed a contract. They're like, well, we said you was cool with once a month, but we need to up it up. So their business model changed a bit. And then midway through, and again, I love Spotify. I think they did an amazing job of changing that.
Starting point is 03:11:36 Unbelievable what they've done. Of course. But also everyone who reinvented and revolutionized the podcast game there, there were content people who then moved on. And also they already ate up your market share. So they just want to get you listening
Starting point is 03:11:51 or watching podcasts on their platform once they get that. And here's the thing too. So they were also carefully watching as they're spending, hey, millions here, millions here, millions here. Every quarter they're going back to their investors saying, hey, we're down, but trust the vision. The stock price dropped from damn near almost 300 to 60.
Starting point is 03:12:13 Spotify isn't Disney Plus. Spotify isn't Netflix. Like, I'm watching Netflix as long as there's a Netflix show I want to watch. Spotify is my listening app. If I want to listen to music, I turn on Spotify. If I want to look for a podcast, I want to watch. Spotify is my listening app. If I want to listen to music, I turn on Spotify. If I want to look for a podcast, I turn on Spotify. So if they gobble up all of your audience, once they know they have your audience, they've already committed, they're
Starting point is 03:12:37 buying, they're spending every month, they have a confidence that your audience is not going to stop listening. Matter of fact, if you just go do your podcast on your own, you're probably going to upload it to Spotify. We're already on Spotify right now for free. Why would they pay us $300? We're not on a Spotify exclusive contract anymore. We still upload to Spotify. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:59 Right? You know, Joe infamously, who had to deal with them, at first he tried to withhold. He was like, yo, I'm not putting it on there. And then he came. Joe what? Oh. By the way, also.
Starting point is 03:13:11 Joe is always Joe Rogan. Okay, okay, my bad. Well, someone which I. There's Joe Rogan. Joe Biden. I'll leave it nameless for now. But someone told me on Spotify, which to me that that was very alarming but indicative of how they viewed things. They said, hey, when Joe did this whole thing.
Starting point is 03:13:30 Which Joe? Joe Budden. Oh, my God, my nigga. There's one Joe. Okay. The second Joe is the president. on Spotify and whatever, whatever, we're boycotting. They literally cited the actual number of people that they knew unsubscribed. And it was like, like, I don't even want to say the number. Like they could actually be like, oh, it's like 15 people that left.
Starting point is 03:14:00 Like it was, so they looked at that and they were like, oh, good riddance. According to what they told me, I don't know. There was a, there was a. And by the way, by the way, hold on, by the way, I'm not, I'm not saying that to be an indictment against Joe. No, I know, I know. I think. This is a business strategy. I think, I think.
Starting point is 03:14:21 It's not even a shot because there's very few people. I think with me, they're probably saying the same shot because there's very few people. They're probably saying the same thing. When you first brought your audience here, they've been subscribed for two years. You were here for two years, motherfucker. They've been listening to not only your podcast, other podcasts, music, this and third.
Starting point is 03:14:37 Now, we're done with you. How many people you think are going to like, you could leave the charts like, hey, leave Spotify. How many people think you're going to like you could leave the charge like hey leave Spotify how many things ain't like me because I think audio platforms are much less. So it's like once you subscribe to an audio platform it's like you're here but like video there's a thousand of them. It's way easier to switch from a Netflix to a Hulu to a whatever. It's behavior. It's like yeah it's like we're not going to Netflix because a Hulu to a whatever. It's behavior.
Starting point is 03:15:08 We're not going to Netflix because we have this behavior that just turns on Netflix. We're on Netflix because they have a show we really want to watch. So they need to keep creating content. With Spotify, the majority of our time on Spotify is with music. So once it becomes our music platform, we'll also listen to podcasts there.
Starting point is 03:15:24 So it's very hard for me to unsubscribe to Spotify, which I now listen to music. I listen to all my other podcasts on or do whatever I listen to just because one person left. I'll just go follow that one person to wherever else they go, but I'll also keep this platform. The loss leader. I just need to get you into the store. Like name audio-only platforms. Yes. They haven't named audio-only platforms. And by the way, I think this is why they only keep, and if you look at all their exclusives, they're only keeping things for namesake.
Starting point is 03:15:53 Rogan, because you can't have Rogan go wide. Can't. You keep Rogan. You keep Call Her Daddy. I think there's like two more or so. And after that, everyone else, thank you for your contribution. Yeah, I can't think of anyone else. Which, by the way, here's the thing.
Starting point is 03:16:10 I knew it was going to be that all along. It's almost like it's more beneficial for you for the first time to sign a crazy long deal. It's almost better for you to be like, instead of two years, give me a 10-year deal. You know what's so funny about that? better for you to be like instead of two years give me a 10-year deal you know what's so funny about that it was i feel like it almost gets like off off podcast like kind of conversation i remember you know like me and my lawyers we always be talking and there was a time where like even our strategy used to be like yo we want the shortest period of time that we could renegotiate like fuck no tell them yo, we're here for 20 years.
Starting point is 03:16:46 You know what I mean? We're here for 20 years with the biggest amount of money because what happens is that... You gave them your whole audience. They realize they love the listening platform. They stay there. They've analyzed the fuck out of the statistics. They know they're... Like, I mean, we'd have these
Starting point is 03:17:01 quarterly meetings, like, hey, this is how your audience acts, blah, blah, blah, blah. They are engaged, blah, blah, blah, blah. You'd almost like, listen, I'm like, yo, how the fuck do you know my audience more than me? Oh, yeah, motherfucker, we've been tracking you. So now it's like, all right, cool. Hey, listen, you know, we could bring you on back for continued years, but it would be definitely way less than what you thought it was. Because they already got your people and they know they're not going anywhere.
Starting point is 03:17:26 And by the way, here's the thing though. One thing I'll say, I'm never like, you know. But that's why I say the number's so high. I don't think that the number for us is honest, if you will. Dove uses this term like honest when it comes to a deal. Our number isn't
Starting point is 03:17:42 honest, but I know that if we bring all of our listeners onto a platform, if your platform is good, like Spotify is good, they're just going to keep listening to everything there. So what is the cost to bring all of our listeners onto your platform
Starting point is 03:17:56 forever? You don't have to pay for two years. You pay them forever. So let's talk about Rogan. Do you think Rogan is getting properly compensated? No, he deserves even more. If Rogan went to Apple,
Starting point is 03:18:11 I think everybody would go to Apple. I think he has that much influence. By the way, let's go back to the last conversation we were talking about. Well, maybe an hour ago, moving audience. If Rogan says today, I'm out. Big deal.
Starting point is 03:18:29 Well, here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. If he says I'm out, he also has so much money that he could be like, I'm out. I just, I don't want to be on your platform anymore. And matter of fact, I'm not even going to upload my podcast to your platform. I'm just going to put it on YouTube. And matter of fact I'm not even going to upload my podcast To your platform I'm just going to put it on YouTube Stop putting it on the platform
Starting point is 03:18:50 If he's like I'm good Why would he continue If he's like listen I can get on my YouTube If he leaves the platform If he does what Joe Bund was doing That would work Because his market share is just ridiculous
Starting point is 03:19:03 Because people need that. And they need it four times a week. So now he could be like, listen guys, I think I'm going to need a little more. It was rumored that they were paying like $100 million a year. Do you think they're upping it or they just have to keep it the same?
Starting point is 03:19:19 They would have to up it, I think. What is the cost to the stock? I think that's what you got to look at. It's like, what is the hit the stock takes? If the stock takes a billion dollar hit, you got to pay him a billion. You have a fiduciary responsibility to the stockholders.
Starting point is 03:19:35 Well, they haven't let him go yet. I will tell you this, though. Ever since they've cut their spending back, because, shit, I follow the stock. I ain't going to lie to you, which I've never told anyone. I'll tell you this. The money they gave me the first year, I dumped half of it in stock which by the way tanked
Starting point is 03:19:49 it only came back it did it tanked stop gambling that's not gambling I'm like how you bet on yourself twice that's crazy side note but anyway anyway no no. No, no. It's good now, though. It's good now. It's good now that I left. I got to say this. I'm up in crypto, bro. Really? Wow. Didn't I tell you? Oh, Bitcoin?
Starting point is 03:20:12 Hold on. Love you, bro. Hold on, man. Hold on for dear life. I love you. That's all. I mean, Bitcoin, you got it. There's no way. I'm back even.
Starting point is 03:20:18 I'm up in crypto. Two years in the making. Well, you got Bitcoin or other shit? I'm up like 150% in crypto. 150,000? My boy. 150%. 150%. Wow. 150 mil. crypto. 150,000? My boy. 150%. 150%. Wow. 150 mil.
Starting point is 03:20:28 You bought at the high. $150. No. Yeah, there's no way that's bullshit. I went over it today. I was shocked. $60,000 coin. I texted my wife because after I bought the first Bitcoin that was the worst investment I've ever made in my life, I came back and I told my wife, I was like, I'm putting everything
Starting point is 03:20:43 in crypto. She's like, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. And then I kept putting money in and I guess I kept buying at low enough amounts that now it has readjusted and, because I think it's at like 45 grand right now. So I think it has given me some
Starting point is 03:21:00 sort of profit. Wow. That's far. I got most of my money in Ethereum. So Akash was right. Wow. The long game. Hunters, of my money in theory. So Akash was right. Wow. The long game. Hunches, baby. The long game. Yo, y'all want to go through like hip-hop rapid fire? Oh, I have a hip-hop question about Diddy. Yes. How much do you think he paid Cassie?
Starting point is 03:21:15 $40 million or $50? You got to pay more than what she was asking for before. Yes, exactly. That was what I thought. People thought that they settled for less. Nah. If you're Diddy, you pay upwards of $100 million. You pay a Spotify contract. Hey, listen, listen. I think Diddy saw that shit, and he saw the visceral response, which obviously was going to happen.
Starting point is 03:21:34 But he knew, hey, listen, you're on the board of a lot of these other companies. By the way, what people don't even realize about Revolt, he funds it. He funds Revolt with his own money that's crazy wow not only does he fund it with his own money for anything that's subsidiary to the to what he's funding it requires advertisers so instantly he soars mortality it didn't take like a board to go tell him any of these companies. Most of Diddy's things. He's not one of the guys who was like, hey, oh, you know, I have a percentage of he's he likes to own all of his shit. So he's seen his mortality quickly.
Starting point is 03:22:15 And for him to say this came out today, let's close it out. And I need you. You have to remember, you have to pay them to basically say, hey, this is over in 24 hours right before weekend. They wanted 30. You got to go above it. Can I tell you the rumor I heard? I don't know how reliable they are, but they're definitely not people that just throw shit out there like that. I heard 100 million.
Starting point is 03:22:39 Never know. That's crazy. I've heard 50 a bunch. I don't know if it's 100. She only asked for 30? She only asked for 30, but if you're her, everybody seemingly believes you. Oh, the price went up. It seems like I'm going to win, and there's clearly, I believe her, but even if you don't,
Starting point is 03:22:58 there's clearly animosity and hatred toward this guy. So if I can ruin your fucking life and get my 30 million, how much you got to pay me to not ruin your fucking life? Hey, by the way, a lot of people who have thought that he paid less are not realizing that her lawsuit was really strategically written that she left out the most
Starting point is 03:23:18 important things that could really ruin him. So what you saw in the lawsuit was a teaser. Like, that was a porno. That was a nigga just just rubbing his pants he didn't pull a cock out yet you feel me so now i'm serious ain't no pause like the niggas rubbing his shit so what was required to pay was hey if they're going that crazy now imagine if i dropped the bomb yeah and And he didn't want it to get there. And I heard he paid a pretty penny. This is one thing I've also heard that's incorrect that people are running with in the hip hop community. They're saying that insurance paid for it.
Starting point is 03:23:55 Fuck no. That's not true. Listen, if anybody has any insurance policy, I don't care on what. You don't have insurance policy. No insurance pays in a day. Like, yo, no insurance. Also, to his point, there's no insurance.
Starting point is 03:24:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, imagine calling up one of these insurance companies and saying, what about like, what's the policy? So easy a K-Bank
Starting point is 03:24:17 could do it, bro. Yes, that's how easy it is. Yo, but there's a few There's a few people who are really in belief that they're like Warren Buffett. What's your monthly premium for mutilating women?
Starting point is 03:24:29 There's a few people who they were trying to equate it to this. They said, well, Cassie not only sued Diddy but also his companies, but she sued his companies as an employee. And that would trigger the insurance policies to kick in to pay it off. I just know there's no insurance policy on earth that says when you file a claim, by the time, as soon as they see it, take the money. Listen, yo, if your car gets hit, they'll fucking at least go look at the shit 20 times before they even pay it. Okay, before we wrap this up, we have a couple questions. Go ahead, bud.
Starting point is 03:25:04 A lot of questions. Okay. Does Gunna's comeback end the snitching stigma? No. It's really divided with the Gunna thing. There's a lot of street rappers street rappers are acting like they don't they're not with it i think it's a signal to to uh most rappers that fans don't care because it's fans that don't care if you talk to any rapper in atlanta they act like gunna's like the worst human being ever yeah yeah but then it gets awkward i i won't tell you who who messaged
Starting point is 03:25:42 me but i but but i said something i did yadi and I said, yo, why is everybody in Atlanta acting like Gunn is not the hottest rapper out? And everybody's acting like they didn't hear, whatever the case is. And one particular rapper, I won't say who it is. Well, I'll say she. She says, it's so interesting because all of these dudes, they don't want to talk bad about him because they don't have beef with of these dudes they don't want to talk bad about him because they don't have beef with him but they don't want to acknowledge him and it's because they want to act like they're tough and thugging or whatever the case is i don't think that it means that oh you could cooperate or whatever but what it has shown is that these street entities
Starting point is 03:26:23 who thought that they're dictating whatever, if you really appease the fans, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Music wins always. The music wins. Kanye's coming back. By the way, here's the thing. People have turned on Lil Baby because of Gunna.
Starting point is 03:26:36 Question. Is Kanye's run with music over? Never. Never. Kanye's run is about to start again. Do you really think he still has it? Kanye's new album, people are listening to it. By the way, this is how
Starting point is 03:26:51 garbage music has been. People are listening to everybody making songs that have nothing, there's no substance, no nothing about it. That when they hear Kanye West coming out with music that, and he always has this palette of music that really is meaningful and really is like, you know, earth shattering. They're saying that Kanye West is back.
Starting point is 03:27:12 How long has it been since he's had an album like that? Well, some people are going back to 2019. I think it was 2019 or 18 when the Life of Pablo dropped. That was to me the last impactful. That was like 2016, 2017. Everything has been a miss since then. A while ago.
Starting point is 03:27:27 Stop it. When he went up against Drake, his album was so much. By the way, people love Don as well. Everything, like, I'm telling you, I don't think,
Starting point is 03:27:35 Don was, I thought, good, but not, it wasn't Kanye that, I kid you not. Yeah, but nobody's talking about Don. People, the thing with Kanye is
Starting point is 03:27:45 what rap is missing and what most musicians are missing. And unfortunately, Drake is such a phenomenal artist. If he got this one thing, he would be more in the realm of being in comparison to Michael Jackson. His presentation is always garbage. Kanye West
Starting point is 03:28:01 will drop some shit with the best presentation possible. he'll premiere it on the fucking he'll have projectors on the side there's some pyramids and some shit he knows how to give it up and you see him on stage with his fucking barefoot with the socks on his daughter is there every rapper is behind him just looking lame just like sitting there because they know Kanye is the guy Drake no matter how great of a rapper he is yes i'm sorry it is what it is it means kanye is so corny he's unbelievably corny when did he become such a zionist yo
Starting point is 03:28:34 i just feel like kanye like everything i see him do is just so unbearably corny and then when i hear a rap the rap the rap is falling off like the rap is falling off bars doesn't matter he's always unbearably corny. And then when I hear him rap, the raps are corny. The rap is falling off. He's always been a horrible rapper, but the music has been so good you forget it. It doesn't matter. He's teaming up with Ty Dolla $ign. His voice is unbelievable. By the way, a person who people feel has been the
Starting point is 03:28:58 underground king of R&B for a long time. Oh no, it's unbelievable. Just never got the credit. Kanye's production has been phenomenal, but not in the last almost decade. This is why Kanye is great. Ty Dolla $ign, everybody is saying criminally underrated. You know what
Starting point is 03:29:13 Kanye says? Fuck it, I'll stand next to him. Drake is going to stand next to Sexy Red at our peak. He's going to stand next to the other hottest. Nah, because I think Drake will put people on. What I would say the difference... He's not doing a collab album with a tie dollar sign no but he'll put people on that you don't really know about but you know finding a career here like right finds him on that he won't be
Starting point is 03:29:35 doing a PE will be doing a this is a collab album this is a Jesus tie dollar sign different do you know what stamp that is? This is a guy who used to be on Chris Brown's songs for eons ago and never got the proper credit for his... But to me, that says that Ty Dolla $ign got nothing to lose. Of course he has nothing to lose. But Kanye West could do an album with anybody. It'd be a little tougher now.
Starting point is 03:30:02 Who? Kanye would do an album with anyone now? Kanye can't even sample the Backstreet Boys. What are you talking about? Do an album with anybody. Who could Kanye to do an album with anyone now? Kanye can't even sample the Backstreet Boys. What are you talking about? Do an album with anybody? Who could Kanye West do an album with?
Starting point is 03:30:08 Backstreet Boys. They said no. Okay, you're talking about Backstreet Boys. Everybody but you. First of all, the Backstreet Boys is a bunch of bums.
Starting point is 03:30:14 Let's be honest. Kanye and fucking West. They just trying to get a, they just trying to get a payback. Yo, this is Kanye West. Kanye West in hip hop is fucking hip hop royalty. Everybody who's around him, including Drake.
Starting point is 03:30:26 Drake just rapped recently saying, every time I thought it was cool with me and you, I was excited, but it wasn't that. Even Drake wants to be cool with the guys. Jay wouldn't do an album with Kanye. I don't think Jay would do an album with Kanye again. Drake tried to come back around about him. Jay probably wouldn't, right?
Starting point is 03:30:43 Because Jay got some other shit going on. I'm talking about the rest of the rappers. Like, you know how it's hard to get, like, Jay-Z on a collab album at this point? I'm saying the entire rap community. I largely agree with you. Anything he does, they would, like, put it like this. All those rappers you've seen on stage,
Starting point is 03:30:59 they're fucking jealous of Ty Dolla $ign. They're like, why him? No, yeah. Kanye still got it with the rap community, for sure. I was just finding an exception. I don't think Jay would, but everybody else, yeah. Talking about hip-hop,
Starting point is 03:31:11 wrestling, and WWE, Youngboy, and Dirk. Is that real or is that fake? Completely real, unfortunately. Really? You know, I was covering it recently. I feel like both of them need it and they use each other as well. They do use it. And that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 03:31:30 Like, unfortunately, sometimes the hip hop and this is why people look at hip hop like this. There's sacrifices like, for example, Kwan Arondo, the guy who went broke because nobody playlists his music anymore. The industry blackballed him because he killed King Ron. He's youngboy's friend. Youngboy, every time he disses Lil Durk, makes millions of dollars because he's gangsta, even though he's on probation or house arrest. He has an ankle monitor, can't go past his mailbox. But if he says, yo, Lil Durk, if I ever see you ever, once I get this thing off, I'm going
Starting point is 03:32:00 to kill you, millions of dollars. The guy who was involved in the incident fighting and the gunshot went off, everybody in the industry hates him because he killed King Vaughn and everybody loves him. So, yeah, those guys, Dirk, this is young boy for attention. He does hate him, though. You know what I mean? Oh, so it's not bullshit. It's not bullshit. I don't think they're both just drawing it up just to like. But how much do you hate your enemy when there is some symbiotic nature of it?
Starting point is 03:32:32 I can't hate you if you're making me money. Yeah, you're making me money. And I'm making you money. Like, for example. It's Batman and Joker, bro. So Youngboy just said something recently. He was like, yo, they asked him about Lil Durk and he says, yo, we talk all the time on the phone. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 03:32:49 You guys make money. To be honest, Youngboy's sales tanked ever since he stopped dissing Durk. His highest sales was dissing Durk. Durk's highest sales was acting like he was going diss Youngboy. I remember when you came to Brooklyn the first time you said these kids are fucking the young boy. He's the guy.
Starting point is 03:33:09 He still has the same influence. These kids look up to him especially like these young black kids like they really think can be a young boy. So the sales have dropped dramatically. Yes, because what happens in the music industry
Starting point is 03:33:21 People called out the whole industry buying sales. No, because what happens in the music industry. People called out the whole industry buying sales. No, because what happens in the music industry is that, you know, I would imagine online comedy, if they see something working, they add a lot of like sauce to it. So if we see that you could pull out 200 people by doing A, now we're going to do A times 15. And then it gets exhausting. Yeah, yeah. And then we're going to do A times 15. And then it gets exhausting. And then we're going to have bots into it. I'm in an argument with NBA Youngboy fans these days. They're like, yo, the YB better.
Starting point is 03:33:53 They used to have bots. You would tweet something like, YB better. And I said, hey, listen, a lot of that was real, but the industry and the labels who don't know how to promote, they're smart. Once they see that start to work, they start to hire people that would hire bots to type that all day. They're in disbelief. So it's the illusion of fandom.
Starting point is 03:34:14 The illusion. A lot of hip-hop is the illusion. Okay, Charleston White. Charleston White was the funniest motherfuckers in the game. He is. Truly that. Do you think he got So he gave me credit
Starting point is 03:34:28 Because one time I was like watch him like your bro One of the most compelling communicators I've ever heard in my life It is impossible to see a clip of him When you're scrolling and not stop And wait for the whole thing There are very few human beings That can stop a scroll
Starting point is 03:34:44 Do you respect him as a comedian? He's not a comedian. He's not a stand-up. Not yet, but he's hilarious. He's trying. Maybe he's on stage. Would you have him on here? Yeah, I think we would.
Starting point is 03:34:54 Before he said this most recent thing, no. He tried it. No, no. Listen, I'll bring him on here with y'all. Before he said the—I mean, if you guys came on, that'd be amazing. Yes, let's do it. But before he said this most recent thing, I'd be like, I don't know, because he had said some very
Starting point is 03:35:08 fucked up. The duality about him is ridiculous. Then he recently came out and I think it was the Cam Newton one. Fucking amazing, right? And he was like, listen, I did all this community work. I've been working with these different people. I've been trying to change laws. Nobody took me seriously. I came out and I played this ignorant character
Starting point is 03:35:24 and all of a sudden i became the biggest thing on the internet so i'm just milking that that's the only way to communicate to you guys and now that he said that i go okay i can look at all these horrendous things that you've said that i wouldn't want to platform and i can go oh that's a character that you're playing you could do that i'll try to do a comedy show with him out here and you saw that stuff about some asian people but that's but those are the things that i'm like if he's if he's actually do the act at the time he said some wild shit i think like right now you would have no problem doing that i don't know if in new york city i'll probably go down south like because i'm gonna be honest with you like even when you know talking about like just being
Starting point is 03:36:04 controversial shit even when i was having a show out here, man, I had to have some conversations with some of the venue owners and certain people that I was like, these aren't even things that people talk about, but they were concerned about even me. Yeah. So, like, Charles the White, I'm like. Well, I mean, down south, unilaterally, they don't give two fucks. Yeah, but you stepped on stage in New York and you had people pressing you. That was a thing where it's like, establishments need to consider when you go on stage. No, no, but it wouldn't be that. So what you're talking about, I went on, somebody invited me out.
Starting point is 03:36:38 So this is back on Fit Guys and the Fig Media guys. They invited me out to a show. Again, it was a show with a bunch of gangster dudes on it. Obviously, like, you know, a guy like me who touts like, yo, listen, you do something to me, I'm going to call the police. They didn't like too much, so they started heckling me a little bit. I loved it, you know what I mean? Because I really love live shit.
Starting point is 03:36:58 Yeah, but an establishment doesn't love that. So if you are drawing that type of engagement, they're not going to want you to be on stage and you draw that type of engagement okay no no okay granted but what i'm trying to say is that's not the normal engagement because that wasn't my crowd so like it's not that if i threw a event because i i did an event before i did it it in Jersey. It was the most. But your event is different than a Charleston event. No, no, no. What he's talking about is imagine you go out.
Starting point is 03:37:30 No, I know his situation. Imagine you come out to my show, right? And my show thinks you're racist. And they're like, fuck Andrew Schultz. Yeah. If you threw an event and it was your crowd, they're not going to say, fuck Andrew Schultz. They're going to be like, yo, that's our guy. So that's kind of what happened there. What I'm saying is if
Starting point is 03:37:48 you threw the Charleston event, the venue might be concerned that there are people that are upset at Charleston. But again, I just think... That's only New York, though, I think. Fair enough. I just think he's such a compelling communicator. And then if this is all a character by design, like if he sat in a room somewhere and he was like,
Starting point is 03:38:03 how do I get my message out better? Okay, let me try to do this. I'm fascinated that if I sit down with Blueface and Blueface goes, yeah, listen, I just kind of like assess the market. I assess what I could do. And I thought, oh, wow, I'm actually really good at creating these storylines and creating drama and chaos within this relationship dynamic that I'm pretty good at. These girls I've talked to, they're kind of on board with it. We're going to light the internet on fire. I want to hear that behind the scenes. I want to hear.
Starting point is 03:38:34 Now, is he willing to come out and say that while it's happening? Maybe not. But maybe a few years from now. I don't think none of these people are that much in control. Fair enough. Even Charles White. For me, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. So you don't think
Starting point is 03:38:45 Charleston did this on purpose? I'm not saying they didn't do it on purpose, but I know Charleston and he's the person where when he crossed the lines, it's because of ego and emotion. And yes,
Starting point is 03:39:00 he does have a general, like, hey, this is the angle I want to approach it at at but it's not like some like maniacal plan like when it comes across perfectly like for example he called me after you know that did millions of views with him in cam news he said that should have been me or you he's like you challenged me in that way where it'll bring out that side of me but when he's
Starting point is 03:39:20 being challenged by these gangbangers you know he tells him you don't run up on me i'll kill you that's his thing. It's not like some really carefully, like, no, I have this all in control. It's like, no, I'm kind of going through this, and I'm taking it as it is. And, you know, hopefully it kind of works out good at the right moment. Like, for example. I feel like both of y'all navigate that way. Like, you kind of call motherfuckers out who
Starting point is 03:39:45 sometimes are really about that life and it's like yeah no so so one thing is a call out you won't hear like what and i tell i tell charles to this don't say things against large groups of people when you're offended by one person you're offended by somebody who's asian don't say things against large groups of people when you're offended by one person. You're offended by somebody who's Asian. Don't diss all Asian people, right? Just that guy. Yeah, right. Because it was him and China Mack.
Starting point is 03:40:12 Yeah, just that one guy. Right? Now, with me— And China Mack is going to want to handle that. Yeah. Now, with me and I think with Charleston and maybe a few people in that space, it's like, yeah, you're not going to, like, especially in the place I'm at now,
Starting point is 03:40:28 you're not going to punk me into, like, fear in you type of stuff. It's like, dog, like, for example, like, my song, like, I'm like, why am I scared of you? You know what I mean? And obviously maybe other people are looking at it like, well, this is, like, encouraging. No, nobody's scared of you.
Starting point is 03:40:43 You know what I mean? And I'm going to continue to stand of you. You know what I mean? And I'm going to continue to stand on that. You know what I mean? Like somebody like my son or some random bum. Because here's the thing. A lot of hip hop, this is why I like people like Charles. What's the issue with my son? Well, there's a lot of people who feel like, you know, because you're not from their environment.
Starting point is 03:40:59 Like he's a guy who used to walk around with a hole in a picket fence. Yo, you know, Black Lives Matter, whatever the case is. Before my son was on that time, he was really on that time, though. Well, regardless of what his platform is, his issue with me is because you have people who think that they're deserving of your platform and you didn't work hard enough for it. Or based on what they do, they should get the same attention as you. I'm not here to dictate the results. You can do what you do. based on what they do they should get the the same attention as you i'm not here to dictate the results you could do what you do i do what i do if the results aren't the same for you it's not it's not on me to try to make it that for you right so for example there's an envy play there no of course like he's like yo hey like anything i do wrong you'll be like hey this is the
Starting point is 03:41:40 guy you all listen to look at him uh right so it's like well i i get you're doing that number one they're not going to stop listening to me it's not going to diminish my platform but also if you think this is helping you in any type of way it's not but then you get that type of person who tries to you know then use what they feel is their advantage to try to belittle you because they can't get people to stop messing with you. Hey, Andrew's a punk. You know what? Andrew, you know, like, I'll fuck Andrew up. Or they'll say whatever the case is to now intimidate you.
Starting point is 03:42:16 And obviously they want your space. So they want you to be like, you know what? You got it. You know what? I'm going to go over. I'm going to go to that other town and I'm going to leave you alone. But at some point you got to stand up for yourself
Starting point is 03:42:26 Because these people don't know you I don't know my son I've never had a conversation with him Also I've always said this We had him on Brilliant he was great If someone isn't willing to have a conversation with you I said that about that Looney Tunes guy Oh yeah
Starting point is 03:42:41 Why don't you guys talk Nah there's no need I told him that I was like you guys talk? Nah, there's no need. If someone isn't too willing to. I told him that. I was like, you guys should just have a pod. If someone isn't willing to have a conversation with you, why should you really even validate the conversation or what they're saying about you? That's fair. If you're not willing to talk to the person you're criticizing.
Starting point is 03:42:56 Yeah, so it's like you have these people who think they're morally superior to you. Like, I don't want to get in a conversation. Like, at this point, like, I'm a whole boss. You think I'm going to sit down with a loony tune nigga who's getting paid 50 bucks an hour from Charlamagne and sit there while he's over there thinking he's giving me games? Shut up. There is an argument to be said that you need to be on a certain level to maybe
Starting point is 03:43:16 have conversations. I just said it to Adam recently. The same guy who Al was talking about. There was an argument about with Al. I remember I didn't want to say the guy's name but I said it to Adam I said Adam the guy made some good points but like you're at the point where you
Starting point is 03:43:32 could choose who you sit down with because that guy is there to try to dunk on you you know nothing about him he knows everything about you and he's just trying to get some type of viewership off your embarrassment yeah it's a good point like would you sit with anyone at this point? No.
Starting point is 03:43:46 You can't. But I'll only sit with the people that I'm interested in. Yeah, that's the J Blue of 50 by responding to him. And that's what I think he realized, because I think with Adam with that situation yesterday, like he was trying to sit with some guy named Charlie Kirk, but it wasn't him. They swapped it out for this, like, grifter,
Starting point is 03:44:02 and this guy went crazy. Hey, you know who I want to ask you guys about? Yeah. Because I'm about to do an interview with him. Matt Rife. Yes. What do you guys think about him? Matt Rife has had an unbelievable rise to
Starting point is 03:44:15 superstardom in the stand-up community. I saw his shit pop up on YouTube. Yeah. Which I think he must use YouTube in a really unique way. YouTube and TikTok. TikTok is where he really blew quick. But like unbelievable fast rise. I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 03:44:31 And I think sometimes what happens is when you have a super fast rise, we were talking about this on Patreon a bit, but your fans don't have the time to really invest and understand you for who you are. the time to like really like invest and understand you for who you are so anything that kind of goes against their perception of you because again they don't really know who you are just yet they're quick to react to and be like hey this isn't the version of you that i thought you were whereas like your fans fans that have been listening to you for what the last 10 years you've been doing content you could say pretty much any fucked up thing. And they'll be like, I know who ACK is.
Starting point is 03:45:08 I've been listening to ACK eight hours a week. So I think what happens with, with Matt is he's in a situation where there's so many people watching him that don't really know him. And then it's very easy to get a convoluted idea of who he is. And there's a lot of people that I'm sure are looking at him and going, fuck that guy
Starting point is 03:45:30 for being so famous. Remember, when you get really successful, people want to tear you down. That's just human instinct. I also knew him from while and out. He's a sweet, he's a kid. I mean, to me, he's 27 now. Oh, he's a sweet, he's like a nice person. I saw him do a few interviews.
Starting point is 03:45:44 And his crowd work is great. It was nice person he's i saw him do it and his crowd work is great it was kind of hilarious because i saw him with um my man um the important or from barstool and he was like pretty much explained he's like yo in a sense he said something that i've heard in rap before from like davis and a few other people like he felt like maybe his perceived attractiveness hurts his comedy and that was like a whole conversation i was like you know dave these ones said that people laughed about the bill like motherfucker you just can't rap my money like what do you think you look too good to rap like you know i mean but you know he made a like i was listening to to his ideas
Starting point is 03:46:21 about it compelling thing it was like hey listen when when you're a comedian, usually it's your words that is making people enamored about what the fuck they're into with you. And he was just like, yo, he would have these shows where a woman would just show up just to be like, yo, he looks amazing. Your skill always has to exceed whatever else you bring. So Tom Brady is the most handsome dude, but he's nice, and he's nicer than he is handsome. As long as you're nicer than you are whatever else,
Starting point is 03:46:57 you're nicer than you are tall, you're nicer than you are fat, you're nicer than you are skinny, you're nicer than you are shredded, nobody says a single fucking thing. Tom Brady is the nicest quarterback that's ever existed. So nobody even talks about how he's good looking. It's not until he's like retired that people are like, damn, that motherfucker hates him.
Starting point is 03:47:14 Because before that, it was like, that motherfucker is nice. So I think that you could make the argument that that's being used against him. But he's just got to make sure that he's putting everything he possibly can into being nice at comedy. And if people know you for being nice, being attractive is awesome too,
Starting point is 03:47:34 but you just got to be nice. If there's a gap between how good you are and how something else you are, people always be resentful of that. From the comedy community, and I don't know if he was alluding to that maybe lightly, is
Starting point is 03:47:47 there possible resentment on his come up? Comics are haters, bro. But here's the problem. Comics are haters, but they don't realize that Matt... So the example that we've given before is Russell Peters. You know Russell
Starting point is 03:48:03 Peters, a comedian? Indian comedian, absolutely hilarious. He probably exposed most of the world to stand up. And I genuinely mean that by numbers, most of the world to stand up. So that's Russell right there. Hilarious. He exposed most of the world to stand up. Like by number, he probably shared stand up
Starting point is 03:48:24 with more people than any other human in history you have to be grateful for russell because so many other people myself akash for sure eating because he exposed billions of people to stand up and those people also want other stand-ups so when i see stand-ups hating on Matt, I'm like, bro, bro, bro, bro. He got all these girls who might've never listened to stand-up to start listening to stand-up. Now they're listening to you. The same thing, like when we started putting out stand-up clips, we were exposing whole other audiences on YouTube to stand-up that might've never listened to it. Now they're listening to it. Don't be resentful of the success. Understand that now there's way more market share for you to tap into.
Starting point is 03:49:08 So the resentment is like short-sighted, bitter, it's hate. You're kind of smiling. Oh, no, I was laughing. Do you think he's cute? He is cute. He's got a handsome lawn. My point is like, you're going to eat off of this.
Starting point is 03:49:24 You think he's cute? Man, I ain't going to lie. I heard that nigga talking about himself looking good. I'm like, yo, this nigga's tweaking, man. This ugly motherfucker. I don't get it. You don't like white guys? I don't like white women or white girls.
Starting point is 03:49:37 I don't know what metric men would- Who's the hottest dude to you? Nobody, me. But there's nobody better looking than you? You don't think anybody looks better than you? I don't look at men. Objectively speaking, you can't say another guy is good looking? A guy? You're being ridiculous
Starting point is 03:49:51 right now. Yo, niggas don't look good to me. Not a single dude is handsome. We're not saying look good to you. We're saying you can see how women find him attractive. Put it that way. Bro, that's like saying, could I put on my gay lens and figure out who is this? One guy.
Starting point is 03:50:08 Saucy Santana, not Top Clock. That's the most gay shit. Like, saucy look crazy. Okay, okay. Are there guys that are ugly? I think all guys are ugly. So there's not one guy that's uglier than another? So you're ugly.
Starting point is 03:50:21 No, no. I ain't ugly. I think all y'all. I'm going to be honest with you. So you think you hot? All y'all ugly the same. You think you hot? Hold on. You think't ugly. I think all y'all, I'm going to be honest with you. So you think you hot? All y'all ugly the same. You think you hot? You think you sexy?
Starting point is 03:50:28 We're all ugly the same. No, no. Okay, okay, okay. I think, like, if I seen a girl and they pick between y'all, like, I would be so confused. I'm like, if they were like, oh, no, I find whoever hotter. I'd be like, like, how? But you just brought up Dave East, for example. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So do you think Dave East- We up Dave East, for example. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:50:45 So do you think Dave East- We've been laughing at that motherfucker. No, no, but- No, you just can't rap like that. But, but, but, but, but, you did bring him up as someone who presented as good looking. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:50:54 And you think you're better looking than Dave East or equal or what? No, I think he's an ugly nigga. You don't have to do this. You don't have to do this bullshit. You don't have to. Like, it's okay have to do this bullshit. You don't have to. It's okay. Nobody's going to check your sexuality.
Starting point is 03:51:08 I actually like Dave East. You're making me insecure about this. No one's going to check your sexuality. I think he's an ugly nigga, man. A good-looking dude. I think Chris Brown looks ugly. I think Usher looks ugly. I think Barack Obama looks ugly.
Starting point is 03:51:21 I think Donald Trump looks ugly. I think all these things look ugly. Are y'all attracted to these niggas? There's a difference between attraction and then acknowledging the symmetry in someone's face. Some people are more symmetrical than others, and they live up to— Well, you're not talking about symmetry, bro. You're talking about attractiveness. Who's—okay, is Dave East symmetrical?
Starting point is 03:51:43 He's symmetrically ugly, bro. Who are you trying to prove? You're trying so hard to prove to us. And I don't know who you're making. If you have a son one day, do you think your son would be handsome? If he looked like me. I'm the only person that I look at. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 03:52:03 If you find anyone, if you're a man and you find any other man attractive to you. You have brothers. You have two brothers. Yeah. Are they? They don't really look like me. Is one of them better looking than the other? Nah, they both ugly.
Starting point is 03:52:16 I'm sorry. Dad, you came for me, Dad. Nah, I look like my dad. Oh, so your dad's a good looking ass nigga? Nah, I ain't say good looking, but he aight though. That's progress. That's progress. he all right though that's progress that's progress so maybe your dad could have catched it yo why y'all got this picture with matt right without his shirt my nigga why does it matter he doesn't look good to you yo hold on i see what he's talking about he tried to tell jokes y'all looking at his ass i'm just saying i think
Starting point is 03:52:44 there's a handsome man he wouldn't tell jokes like yo he got like a bbl belly button man you know the bbl belly button look like a black hole the stretch shit it's not a stretch we know the bbl belly button it's not the bbl belly button yo why are you looking at his belly button yeah no he was i didn't even know he had a belly button. He was really. Yo, son. Son, son, son. Hold on. Okay, is his belly button. You're saying his belly button.
Starting point is 03:53:09 Nah, I'm fucking with Matt Rife, though. He's a funny person. Yo, when I first saw him. Can I say one thing? What is it? You're saying his belly button is less attractive than other male belly buttons. Nah, I ain't never said that. Get him.
Starting point is 03:53:19 No, no, I'm just saying. Get him. You said. Yo, one thing I'm going to say about Matt Rife. Get him. When I was first watching him. No, no. When I was first just saying. You said. Yo, one thing I'm going to say about Matt Wright. Like, when I was first watching him, right? No, no. When I was first watching him. He made you hungry.
Starting point is 03:53:29 I remember I was just like, yo, I don't get how funny he is. Because I'm like, yo, I feel like he was like a dude just trying to impress girls. I'm going to be honest with you. Got it. Then I was just like, yo, this guy is fucking hilarious. He's quick and witty. Yes. The crowd were super quick.
Starting point is 03:53:44 Yeah. And I think that's what he uploads to YouTube. I think he's pretty good. Top tier crowd work, I think. But back to finding, or not finding. Would you fuck him? You can think a guy is good looking
Starting point is 03:53:59 without fucking him. I don't know if you think. When you see male models, right? Who's a male model? Like walking the one runway or like in an ad for Gucci or an ad for Dior. When you see the models, do you think that the casting
Starting point is 03:54:16 agents for those models are just pointing at any guy and putting them there or do you think there are certain things they're looking for? I do think they're looking for probably physique, but facially and shit like that? So you're more of a body guy. You're like, that body.
Starting point is 03:54:31 I understand that. Hold on. I would say they're looking for physique to see which guy the clothes fits good on. Who the fuck is this nigga? That nigga on steroids. Do you think these guys are the same level of attractive? Like, those two guys left and guys are the same level of attractive? Like those two guys
Starting point is 03:54:47 are the same level of attractiveness? Or ugliness, I guess. Oh, ugly. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. If my bitch fucked either one of these things, I'd be mad just the same. Well, of course you'd be mad. Wait, so you think you're better looking than Thor? No. If you had to get... If a chick picked
Starting point is 03:55:03 who's Thor? That's one of them, right? Yeah. Yeah, I ain't fucking with that. If you had to get... If a chick picked... Who's Thor? That's one of them, right? Yeah, I ain't fucking with that. If a bitch picked him over me, man, I ain't with that shit, man. Acura legend. Acura legend. Acura legend. You think he look good?
Starting point is 03:55:18 Acura legend. Yes, he looks incredible, though. Okay, listen. There's Thor, right? Okay. And then that's Thor. Okay, listen. There's Thor, right? Who's that? Okay. And then that's Thor. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:55:29 Long hair. Oh, yeah. Short hair. It's like, eh. Then there's that, dude. Now, this is a good, this is a good, okay. Now, get out of the body, because the body's distracting. Just go closer to the face, right?
Starting point is 03:55:40 Right? Now, do you think this guy is in any way better looking than the other guy? You're just so confused right now. You're like perplexed. I ain't going to lie to you. Y'all play like gay games, bro. I think both these ugly ass niggas is the same. Can I give you an honest theory?
Starting point is 03:56:02 No, no, no. Can I give you an honest theory? I think you're afraid that if you admit a guy is good looking, you'll fuck him? No, no, no. Can I give you an honest theory? I think you're afraid that if you admit a guy is good looking, you'll fuck him. That's not true. You might be a little gay. No, no, no. It's a little gay. If y'all ask, hold on. If you ask a pertinent question like, who do I think is in better shape?
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Starting point is 03:56:52 Yo, yo, you answer the question correct, you get 100 million. Who's more ugly if you just answer it correct? By societal standards. 25 million. By societal standards. And you just gotta guess it, it's not act, it's not act, it's just by societal standards. Who's more ugly between standards. And you just got to guess it. It's not act. It's not act. It's just by societal standards. Who's more ugly between those two?
Starting point is 03:57:08 Thank you for saying that. Not to say the truth. They both ugly as shit. I knew you were going to do that. I knew you were going to fucking do that. It's weird how much you're overcompensating. You think women can be better looking and uglier? You said what. You think women can be better looking and uglier? You said what?
Starting point is 03:57:26 You think women can be better looking than other women? Yeah, because I have an attraction to women. So, like, I could tell you. You could discern. Wait, wait, wait. Me, if I'm judging who's uglier or whatever, it's based on who I'm attracted to. So, play this. I might think a girl is more attractive.
Starting point is 03:57:44 You might think not because, you know, it's my attraction. Yeah. So if I'm attracted to her for whatever reason, but you're not, I think she's more pretty or whatever. Remove attraction. Remove attraction. I don't think looks are objective at all. Okay. How about this?
Starting point is 03:57:57 Oh, here we go. That's interesting. Do you? Yeah. Yes. Okay. I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 03:58:03 Okay. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair That's fair now what you're basically making the argument is if The closer to what your aesthetic is the closer to what a girl that is attractive for you looks like
Starting point is 03:58:15 Whoever gets closer to that. They're more attractive. Is that fair enough? Yes, so if there is a man That is closer to your style You find So if there is a man that is closer to your style, you find him more attractive. I don't got no style of niggas. I'm just saying. You think I got a style of niggas? You know, that's crazy. That sounds crazy. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 03:58:33 That's interesting to say beauty is just not objective at all. It's completely subjective, male or female. No, 100%. That's interesting. No, no. To me, I do think. Then it would kind of add up to him. The last time I was on Fresh and Fit,
Starting point is 03:58:45 they was asking me to rate and chase it. I'm like, yo, I really think this is completely subjective. They were trying to get you over. So like this shorty, for example, is she attractive in your eye? Is she like an eight? That's it. But like she has a dick.
Starting point is 03:59:00 So you think that she's eight? Can you scroll down? Can you scroll down a little? Can you show him the reveal? There's a dick. Can you read that she's... Can you scroll down? Can you show him the reveal? Can you read what that says, Ak? She was born with a dick. Can you just read what it says? What's this guy doing, though? I'm just saying she was born with a dick.
Starting point is 03:59:17 She was. Can we just acknowledge that that girl is fun as fuck? That's what I'm saying. Ak, can you read what it says just for the people? For who people? What? You read what the headline says? Oh, it's like Chris Hemsworth fucks some bad bitch.
Starting point is 03:59:33 Oh, that's a bad bitch? No, no, no. That's a transgender. A girl born with a dick is an eight. Y'all trolling now. Y'all trolling now. Y'all trolling now. Son, she's an eight.
Starting point is 03:59:44 Y'all trolling.. She's an eight. She's an eight with a dick. Can we acknowledge she's kind of hot, though? Here's my point. If you find, if you could acknowledge that a male looks attractive, I'm not knocking, I'm not calling you gay. To me, I could
Starting point is 04:00:01 only visually see what would be in the realm of attractiveness to me and then judge off, like, for example, I have a type of girl, like, what y'all think is a 10, I probably don't think is a 10. So who's really going to be right? What do you think is a 10?
Starting point is 04:00:19 BBL, Caesar, beard? No, what's your 10? Tell us exactly what your 10 is. Alex, check your mic. It's going to be a girl with a natural body. That's number one. If you have any fake parts, you can't be a 10 to me. Not no way, no how. I respect that.
Starting point is 04:00:38 Me, it might be a Latino or mixed girl. Just say a name no no I won't describe her because I don't say a celebrity
Starting point is 04:00:48 like just I don't think none of these bitches 10 like what the fuck just say an easy that's like simping I don't think none of these bitches 10
Starting point is 04:00:54 like listen we're all humans bro we all got flaws bro like you just sound like some mad simper so there's no one in the world
Starting point is 04:00:59 who is a 10 in your eye fuck no bro bro bro 10 we don't we throw around that like a like the word goat like everybody's a 10 everybody's a goat it's a Bro, bro, bro. 10, we throw around that like the word goat.
Starting point is 04:01:05 Yeah, it's so easy. Like, everybody's a 10, everybody's a goat. It's a bunch of 10s. Who do you think it's a? Beyonce's a 10. J-Lo's a 10. Beyonce's a straight 8,
Starting point is 04:01:14 my nigga. Like, I haven't got a whole job. So Beyonce and this dude are the same to you? Yo. You fucking Bati boy. Yeah, you just give
Starting point is 04:01:21 dude as an 8. I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. I was Googled anything. Look at y'all. Young Sophia. My nigga, this picture looks like
Starting point is 04:01:29 it was taken in the 70s, dog. It was. She's the Sophia Vergara. She's 70 years old. She's beautiful. Yo, I get to play. It's Ruby Rose like an eight and a half
Starting point is 04:01:38 to me, man. Like, you know what I mean? Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Eight and a half. Ruby Rose. You know who Ruby Rose is? Yes.
Starting point is 04:01:47 She had a nigga spend $100,000 or so. We all have the explore page on Instagram. That was Kat. I mean, well, there's Kat but that's... But it's Kat. Well, that was good marketing. It's fantastic marketing. But that's fantastic surgery.
Starting point is 04:01:59 I like how you gave the trans dude an eight though. That's progress. Okay, who is the hottest? Sonsi is going to be like, yo, you know what? He's the hottest. Who's the hottest in the entertainment realm
Starting point is 04:02:15 right now? Sonsi. Bring it up. Okay. She's a Jamaican singer. How do you spell that? S-H-E-N. Yeah, right there.
Starting point is 04:02:27 What about Shani from South Africa? Is it beautiful? Tyler. Yeah, Tyler. What about Tyler? She's beautiful. Nah, ain't she like 18, man? What do you mean?
Starting point is 04:02:39 I ain't don't know Diddy shit. I'm a grown man, so it's got to be at least like 21. You just gave a training at eight. But she was grown. Yeah, I was just mentioning. I just pull up with anything. Nah, I'm a grown man, so it's got to be at least like 21. You just gave a trainee an eight. But she was grown. Nigga, I was just mentioning. I just pull over anything. No, but as a woman, she's probably like a year and a half old. That's true.
Starting point is 04:02:53 I'm going to be honest with you. Yo, you just gave one old pussy an eight. Yo, yo, yo, yo. The Tyler person, she look too young, bro. I'm going to be honest with you. But like, if you start liking girls, like play this. I don't even rate Coleray. If you like Coleray, you a, bro. I'm going to be honest with you. But like, if you start liking, like play this. I don't even rate Kola Ray. I actually like that.
Starting point is 04:03:07 If you like Kola Ray, you a pedophile. I actually like that. I used to feel that way about Ariana Grande. I feel like that about her too. Real talk. Now I know you good. You now want some diddy shit. No, because here's the thing.
Starting point is 04:03:18 It's like, if she looks underage. If she looks like a boy, man. It don't matter if she's 23. It don't matter, man. She looks 14. Yes. I respect that. Because tell her I feel the same. I was trying to catch you, and you got me.
Starting point is 04:03:32 How old is she? 14? 21. I don't care about nothing but that. Man, she got to eat some meat, man. So you like a little bit more thickness? No. I like people who look like adults.
Starting point is 04:03:45 Adults, you feel me? Yeah. That's a good standard. You know, white people, they be on some old type of shit. You know what I mean? It's white. It's white people that, you realize the age of consent in most of these states is like 16. And who invented that? White people. Now, what's the age of consent in
Starting point is 04:04:01 non-white countries? Do you think it's older or younger? Nah, Jamaica's like 21, man. You can't fuck nobody up in 21, man. Let's go look at the age of consent in non-white countries? Do you think it's older or younger? Jamaica's like 21, man. You can't fuck nobody under 21, man. Let's go look at the age of consent in Jamaica. Go look at the age of consent. Go look at the age of consent. The Wi-Fi don't work. The Wi-Fi don't work.
Starting point is 04:04:14 Let's look at the age of consent in non-white countries. This ain't Australia. White people fuck the oldest bitches, bro. Nope. White people fuck the oldest bitches. 16 and you could get daggered at 16. Where's that?
Starting point is 04:04:29 The age of consent in Jamaica is 16 years old. That's Jamaica Queens, motherfucker. That's not helping. That's not helping. Alright, but for real though. You don't find no guy attractive. Wait, do y'all really find men attractive?
Starting point is 04:04:46 Like, also, I'm not even bullshitting. You're not sexually attractive. Yo, when I look at y'all, it's not like I'm like, oh, y'all are worth... It's just that, like, it doesn't... Like, I can't distinguish what would be more... Like, if you actually... Yeah, but I'm not wearing my best outfit. Oh, this guy.
Starting point is 04:05:02 Well, he's trying to get... Like, he has pretty eyes. Can you acknowledge that? Hold on. What? You're going too hard to not be... He said he couldn't even look me in the eyes when he said that. He's got pretty eyes.
Starting point is 04:05:15 He won't even look me in the eyes. He's too afraid. Yo, you curl your eyelashes. Yeah, that's crazy. You do curl your eyelashes. You mad game for that. Only girls ever tell me that. Your eyelashes are like... Your eyelashes are like... Yeah, that's crazy If having this discussion you're like yo could I acknowledge who's in better shape? Curly ass eyelashes money. I go a lot, but y'all the only dudes ever mentioned me y'all on some session like i'm gonna be honest to be told my eyelashes
Starting point is 04:05:50 was kind of curly but yours is crazy your eyelashes are crazy they're like they're like this they're like swooped up like you before you come to a podcast you take that little metal thing and you go like yeah you're crampp them. Did you crimp your eyelashes? Son, stop acting like you didn't crimp your eyelashes, bro. It's okay, it's okay. Now, he don't do it, he don't do it. Come on. I got a lot of learning from that right now.
Starting point is 04:06:13 No, no, no. Yo, look at this guy, man. But look at him. How often do you get this shit shaped up right here? Once a week. Look at that guy, look. Look at that guy. This is the sexiest man alive, 2020.
Starting point is 04:06:28 That's the sexiest guy alive? People Magazine, 2020. Would you fuck him? Nah. It's not a sexual thing for me. You fuck him, it's so funny. Okay. It's not a sexual thing.
Starting point is 04:06:36 It's not sexual, dude. You just like looking at him. Okay. You understand? I don't understand the action. He just comes in with his eyes. I would really ask you, why do you think this guy's attractive? Nah, he paid for it.
Starting point is 04:06:48 He paid for it. Paid for what? He paid for that slot this year. That's crazy. I don't think he deserves it. Miles offended, yo. That's a good-looking guy. Back in the day, what was he?
Starting point is 04:06:57 This man been acting 40 years. He's like 60. McDreamy, yeah, you wouldn't know. He's McDreamy. Back in the day, like 10 years ago. But he don't got it. 20, dog. So old ass dude.
Starting point is 04:07:06 What about Bedford? What's his name? Tyson Bedford. Tyson Beckford. Beckford. Yeah, he's some old ass dude. I always thought the niggas was gay. What?
Starting point is 04:07:16 We'll talk. But being gay or being straight doesn't change whether you're- Of course, if you're gay, you're eliminated. I mean, more than Tyson Bedford. You're eliminated from what? Who am I, bro? Being hot? Hot.
Starting point is 04:07:27 But we talk, like, when we talk about, if somebody look at Chaz, we talk about, could you get... Listen, please. Yo, yo, yo. The way our men talk...
Starting point is 04:07:33 Click the face. Yo, yo, the way our men talk, play this. This is a compliment. This is how black men give compliments. Be like, yo, yo, that nigga get bitches.
Starting point is 04:07:40 So if you not get bitches, like, what we gonna say? So who you think he gets bitches right there? I think he get niggas. I ain't gonna hold you. But, like, when you look at his face... You probably do. Who you think get bitches, like what we're going to say? You think he gets bitches right there? I think he gets niggas. I ain't going to hold you. But like when you look at his face. Probably do.
Starting point is 04:07:47 Who do you think gets bitches? Huh? Who do you think gets bitches? Not Saucy Santana. No, but who do you think gets bitches? Who do you think gets bitches? Shit. Ow.
Starting point is 04:07:57 Ow, you cute, dog. I'm married. Pause. I'm married. That's not flirting. You said it. You're the one that said it. No, that's not flirting.
Starting point is 04:08:03 It's just like. I'm just using my own words. Actually, no, actually. I think you get bitches too. You flirting with bitches now and it's okay. I flirting It's just like I'm just using my own words Actually I think you get bitches too Why do you think I get bitches Why do you think I get bitches Nah he didn't say you He didn't say you No I didn't say you
Starting point is 04:08:12 No no Awful accomplishments man Oh so you're saying That's yeah yeah yeah That's what's got me bitches Don't do that to him He said it He said my looks
Starting point is 04:08:19 Don't tell him he got a great personality He said my looks And your accomplishments It's all good But hold on Right there Tyson Nah Tyson don't
Starting point is 04:08:24 Tyson Beckford That's a handsome man. You don't think that that's a handsome guy? He said he gets his dicks. Nah, man. Probably one of them niggas in a free call, man. But you don't think Diddy only selects the best looking dudes for the free call? Diddy said he was selecting the biggest dicks. That's crazy.
Starting point is 04:08:40 There's been rumors about him. You know, the whole time I'm hearing Diddy was selecting the niggas with the biggest dicks, I never got a call. Never got a call. So maybe it's wrong. Maybe it's just a rumor. Another Diddy question. Another Diddy question.
Starting point is 04:08:52 Sorry. We need to talk about this. Because we've been trying to figure out. You said everybody's afraid to talk about Diddy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Explain the history of 50 and Diddy and why 50 is not afraid to say that shit. Yo, 50 the GOAT, bro. He's incredible.
Starting point is 04:09:04 Yeah, you and 50 have not been the GOAT. No, we got to realize 50 is a little bit different because I think 50 really don't give a fuck. Nobody gives a fuck less than 50. No, well, I'm going to be honest with you. I think Diddy fucked up when he dated 50's babe moms. So there's a long history. It goes back to 50 trying to sign Mase.
Starting point is 04:09:27 There was some contract stuff. There's some music stuff that's really in between 50 and Diddy. A lot of bad blood, but not really. It's one of those you're in an industry with somebody you don't like, so you got to play and do the song and dance. Don't really fuck with it, but it is what it is. And then I believe it got to the point where Diddy dates his baby mama
Starting point is 04:09:48 it's over after that I've always said listen let me tell you this put it like this like I don't even know who your girl is right
Starting point is 04:09:57 or let's say ex-girl right or both y'all ex-girl right if if that girl told us like oh you know you should date Mark
Starting point is 04:10:04 you should date Al I'm good because to me like we beefing after that like i always say you got to leave people's girls ex-girls alone people go to war over that and i think that's what 50 is doing man oh so you think that this was from the past it's not him trying of course i think i think 50 has been been waiting for this moment for like 10 to 15 years. I don't know where it went wrong because they did a collab. There was a song where it was Puffy, Diddy, and Jay-Z.
Starting point is 04:10:35 That whole Billionaire's 1, 2, 3. 50's not lying, though. He's a truthful dude. He said y'all was cool and everything was good. And the motherfucker asked me to go shopping. You don't ask a man to go shopping. You know what I mean? You ever ask Mark, like, you want to take him
Starting point is 04:10:52 shopping? I would like that. He and I shop together for sure. No, no, but did you take him shopping? Not shop together. Take him shopping. What do you mean, like, I buy him an outfit? No, no, you'll be like, yo, I couldn't afford to. Like, shopping is on me. We're going out. That's a little weird.
Starting point is 04:11:07 Not really. Because if he dressed like Ag, I'd be like, yo, Ag, I'll take you shopping. Just because I want to help you level up your shop game. It was like, yo, that was flirting, bro. That was flirting right there. That was flirting when you were sexual.
Starting point is 04:11:23 I was flirting crazy. I respect Saucy a little bit more. He said, knock me out. He said, you. I was flirting with you. I was flirting crazy right there. I respect Saucy a little bit more. He said he was going to knock me out. He said he was going to take me shopping before he talked to me. He's trying to seduce you. He's trying to seduce you. At least Saucy was like, I'm going to knock you out before you do it. You don't remember it.
Starting point is 04:11:35 That's right. That's right. You're going to fuck Saucy. That's what's up. No, no, no. That's what's up. See? Exactly.
Starting point is 04:11:40 Yep. Yep. Now you're daft. You're daft. I don't want to fuck you, and I don't hate you. I'm just playing like you dressed bad. No, but he was trying to flirt with you right there. No, no, no.
Starting point is 04:11:47 Yo, you take a man shopping, and you got to be in that little gray area while they waiting in the changing room. You gay. You gay. Turn around. Let me see. If your man says turn around, let me see. That's where it's a problem. That's where it's a problem.
Starting point is 04:12:02 Yo, or you and I be like, yo, hey, does it fit? And be like, uh, now come on out here. Now you gay. You gay. You gay. Come on now. That's what you going to do? That's not what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 04:12:12 I'm just trying to elevate your dress game. Can you tell if a dog is better looking than another dog? A dog? Yeah, can you be like this? Like an animal. Yeah, can you be like, yo, this pit bull is better looking? What type of bitchy alley shit you on? Nigga, you open that realm up.
Starting point is 04:12:28 Just in general. He literally cannot understand attractiveness being objective. So like when you buy a dog, are you like, oh, that dog is better looking than that dog? Cuter. You don't think dogs are different cuteness? Nah, it's a dog. A dude with no teeth, hillbilly, just meth head, is you think equal attractiveness to Tom Brady?
Starting point is 04:12:52 I think both of them motherfuckers is ugly. And you think if I see a dog, and I'm like, oh my God, that dog is so cute. Now I understand why he was crying, bro. Now I understand the tears, bro. I'm like genuinely confused. Like, for example, I got a rottweiler yeah like this never crossed my mind like hey another dog is like were you fucked dogs no no no so you never thought a dog is cute you never been like oh my god dog is so cute i've thought dogs are adorable
Starting point is 04:13:20 but i've never been like i've nevereness. Okay, what man is more adorable than another man? That nigga's not adorable to me. Wait, y'all think men are? What do I have to prove? No, it's like, we're adults. No, no, no. We're adults. No, no, you're right, you're right.
Starting point is 04:13:35 I love how committed you are to this, bro. Do you think men are adorable? No, but they- Yo, yo, you're fucking gay. This guy's fucking gay. Yo, Al, you know how you find men adorable? You walking up to Mango, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci.
Starting point is 04:13:50 Let me ask you a question. So if someone asks you a question, who's more attractive, me or him, you can have an answer? Yeah, it's Mark. It's not even close. What are you talking about? That was good.
Starting point is 04:14:04 That was actually hurtful. He didn't have to say that part. He didn't have to say the other part. I was saying like. He didn't have to say the last part. That was. Run some. Run some.
Starting point is 04:14:12 Run some. Yo. Like run some. Yo. Yo. My boy said that like he had a boner. Nah, that's crazy. Nah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 04:14:18 Did you have a boner? Yo, that dude said. Yo, that dude said like he had a boner. No, but the finish was. The definitively, he is way more attractive. No boner? No boner. Way more. Like way more.
Starting point is 04:14:34 Every girl will come up to him before they come up to you. Every girl. Every girl will come up to him. Yo, this is the most. And I've seen him with the whole age. They all walking up to him before they walk up to you. Every single day. Every single, every body walking up to him before they walk up to you.
Starting point is 04:14:54 I think he feel a little like, yo, damn, bro. Yo, my dick. Yo, shit's fat. No, no. I think he's on it. I think he's on it on that one. Oh, my God. I think he's on it on that one. It's because.
Starting point is 04:15:02 But do you have a boner when you say that? No, it's because. There's no boner. I'll go work off your bon one. It's because. But do you have a boner when you say that? No, it's because. There's no boner. I'll go work off your boners. My boy popped a honey bag or some shit. A rhino. He popped. He popped, bro.
Starting point is 04:15:15 He's still trying. The craziest thing is this is the most animated we've seen. Yo, he looks good. Yo, he's fire. Yo, he's fine. If you ask me, anybody, any girl, and me would fuck him because it's such a
Starting point is 04:15:34 definitive ass question. It's the most clear cut question ever. Craziest part? The craziest part is like Marcus sizing him up like, does he even know I don't even fuck with black dudes? No, no, no. That is true. That is true.
Starting point is 04:15:53 I don't even fuck with black dudes. I know he don't because I tried to before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I shut that down. I shut that down. I did shut that down earlier. No. Playground, we love you.
Starting point is 04:16:03 We appreciate you. This is crazy. This is DJ academic. Yo, this is sexual tension, man. You got to we love you. We appreciate you. This is DJ Academic. Yo, this is sexual tension, man. You got to work this out. We going to go fuck. Yo, on the Patreon version, they're going to be figuring it out. You parted the freak off.
Starting point is 04:16:16 Oh, hell nah. You parted the freak off. You parted the freak off.

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