Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Gary Vee EXPOSES NFT's
Episode Date: March 24, 20220:00 - start 0:10 - why NFTs are NOT bulls**t 6:00 - NFTs in macro vs micro 15:00 - what's the biggest con in first world history 22:00 - Gary Vee impersonators 32:00 - how to find a good NFT 47:00 - ...What is the Metaverse 1:01:00 - Gary will down the NY Jets 1:21:00 - how to raise the next generation without being soft Flagrant 2 is a comedy podcast that delivers unfiltered, unapologetic, and unruly hot takes directly to your dome piece. In an era dictated by political correctness, hosts Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh, along with AlexxMedia and Mark Gagnon, could care less about sensitivities. If it’s funny and flagrant it flies. If you are sensitive this podcast is not for you. But if you miss the days of comedians actually being funny instead of preaching to the CHOIR then welcome to The Flagrancy. Join the Patreon Asshole Army: http://bit.ly/2xQwHYf
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I'm ready to fuck this guy.
And I'm ready to accept it.
You got pretty eyes, motherfucker.
You got pretty eyes.
Gary, you've made a lot of money in NFTs.
And I've lost a lot of money in crypto.
Really?
Yeah.
Makes sense.
Thanks on our talents.
Thank you.
It's a good way to start the show.
Starting off hot.
Coming in hot.
Explain to me why NFTs aren't bullshit.
They aren't bullshit because a lot of the,
let's actually ask why did you ask that question?
Yes.
It's because when new things come along,
there's an incredible opportunity for bullshit.
Okay.
When things are very complicated and hard to understand,
it creates an opportunity for hucksters to take advantage.
And there's all versions of hucksters.
We have the Instagram, social media, club promotion,
entrepreneur huckster of this generation now
that is very prominent in NFTs.
When internet was the last time we saw
this big of technology happen,
the hucksters were actually Harvard Business School,
Wall Street, Madison Avenue established executives.
And ironically, and this is important,
I actually don't think that every one of them
understands that they're doing bullshit behavior.
Here's what happens in a gold rush.
Gold rush behavior.
The reason it's bullshit is people see the money
and it's so big that consciously or subconsciously
they don't even realize they're doing bullshit.
For example, there are absolutely people
who've launched a 10,000 PFP project copying Bored Ape,
copying VFriends, copying CryptoPunks,
who literally are sitting in the room right now
and think that they are remarkable artists,
that they are incredibly good,
that they're going to build the next Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
They're completely confident.
They're going to launch it.
It's going to sell.
A bunch of fucking people are going to buy a squirrel
with a taco up its ass for $4,000 as an image. It's jpeg already on that it's not a jpeg you're on that
right yeah it's not a jpeg because it's not on the internet it's an nft because it's on the
blockchain lots of people got jokes and the comments and social yeah completely based on
the fact that they don't know what the fuck they're talking about yeah and it's not it's
not a jpeg it's not a jpeg it is also a jpeg
it for you for every you know what i'm saying of course i do like a rectangle is a square or
whatever that is most correct most people see one or the other you know what i mean
rectangle rectangle is a square you know we're talking about nfts here it was not a square I'm locked in
I'm locked in
he's like how could I get out now
you guys are remarkable
communicators pure escapism
and entertainment grounded
in intellect
I did pick up on that
grounded in intellect this Just call it stupid. I did pick up on that. Okay, thank you. Grounded in intellect. Grounded in intellect, all right, thank you.
It's true.
Got insecure.
This is how you're winning.
I understand, no, I know where I'm going.
You were pretending to know how NFTs work.
I'm looking at liquid death
because I have a comp on what liquid death did
in its category.
Yeah.
Like 50 years ago, somebody rolled up on other people
and said, I'm gonna sell water,
and water was free in the faucet,
and everyone laughed the fuck out of them.
It was the stupidest idea of all time.
In 1957, 62, somebody said, I'm gonna sell bottled water,
I'm gonna charge for water,
and every fucking person on Earth
said you're a fucking idiot,
it's free out of everyone's faucet.
Isn't that just people in the first world where it's clean?
Oh my God.
Like in the third world, like selling water was the shit.
Or in reverse, while
we take a public service announcement, everyone should
go to charity water and donate a couple
of bucks because there's still 850
million people on fucking earth that don't have
access to clean water. But do they have
NFTs? They probably don't.
Maybe we should give them NFTs. Maybe that's how you
solve the problem. Maybe we give them both.
Okay. You know, the world likes to think in or.
I like to think in and.
Wow.
We're dropping times here.
I'm feeling fresh.
I'm feeling fresh.
I haven't done a podcast in a minute.
I'm feeling fresh.
I'm doing good.
I'm ready to fuck this guy.
I'm ready to accept it.
You got pretty eyes, motherfucker.
You got pretty eyes.
All right.
That's dope. That's how you start a threesome. It's not. It's not or, baby. You got pretty eyes. All right, so listen.
That's dope, but that's how you start a threesome.
It's not.
It's not or, baby.
It's not or.
It's NFC.
Yeah, listen, people take these sentences
and use them in different ways.
Yeah, we are.
Listen, I think that,
I understand why people think it's a JPEG.
Everyone's bringing their internet brain to the blockchain,
just like everybody brought their real world brain
to the internet in 1996,
which is why people didn't see it.
When I launched winelibrary.com for my dad,
everybody told me nobody would buy anything on the internet.
I told them people were gonna buy wine on the internet.
When we got into debates,
I told them people were gonna buy tomatoes on the internet,
which for some reason in the 90s set people off
because everybody thought you had to touch tomatoes
in the market and then Fresh Direct did its thing.
So I think that people are struggling
because they don't know what they're talking about.
When a JPEG on the internet is not owned by anything
because it's centralized, thus you don't own it.
On the blockchain, it's decentralized,
the ledger shows that you own it
and that JPEG slash NFT can do shit.
What it does is based on the execution.
Liquid death in a remarkably crowded market
of bottled beverage hit in the last seven years.
99% of the liquid death decks
that came through my inbox to invest in go to zero.
1% hit.
99% of streetwear brands don't hit.
Kith hit.
Like 99% of NFT projects are going to be garbage.
Do you know how many Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle attempts there's been?
40 billion.
But that one hit.
Marvel hit.
Batman hit.
But there's a fuckload of shit that didn't.
It took fucking Black Panther 40 years to hit.
So it's not NFTs.
It's CryptoPunks or Bored Apes that are good.
NFTs in the macro are 100%. The technology's too big. The individual projects within them?
Yes. Most will fail.
It's like saying social media doesn't work. No, it doesn't work for you because you're
not charismatic, smart, or attractive.
Got you.
But it works.
Talk that shit.
NFT projects are going to fail at length, but I'm going to build one of the biggest
ones of all time.
Goddamn. Vee Friends. Wanna fuck again? Again? NFT projects are going to fail at length but I'm going to build one of the biggest ones of all time God damn V friends
V friends
Now
Is it that they're buying
the little characters
or are they really buying your time
Both
And only a couple
Only 1%
Who wants the fucking character when they can have this
And you're going to talk to them like you talk to Anka Talk to me nice and only a couple, only 1%. Who wants the fucking character when they can have this?
Only 1%. And you're going to talk to them like you talk to Anka?
Talk to me nice.
You give me enough Ethereum.
What is your OnlyFans price?
Listen, OnlyFans is just the acceleration of my hyperthesis
on why the blockchain is going to win.
NFTs are going to create things that we can't think of.
The internet came along, right, hardcore 95, 96.
Everybody called it the information superhighway.
The first, you know, almost everybody in this room now
is too young, but like I was, I got through high school
without the internet, through high school.
Right, so I lived my life before the internet came along.
When the internet first hit, everyone's like, it's good for information.
I was like, I'm a terrible student,
I don't need to go to the library anyway.
Then I go, it's better than going to the library.
I'm like, I don't go to the library anyway,
so don't give a fuck.
Then I started saying, wait a minute, it's evolving.
What's this America online shit?
You could chat, age, sex, location
for some of the 45 year olds.
You remember that ASL life?
You know?
So it started to evolve and I remember in 97 telling my friends,
I'm like, I think people are gonna hook up
because we're in college.
I'm like, people are gonna hook up through this thing.
And like online dating in 2000 as a brand
was a 487 pound dude living in his mom's basement.
That's how, when anybody in 2000 said online dating,
everyone's like, gross.
Yo, there was a stigma to it.
Yeah, there was. A heavy stigma.
You were embarrassed to say how you met.
A hundred percent.
And now, if you met in person,
it's the first thing you say.
Yo, we met old school.
It was actually at a bar.
At a bar?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Why?
It's less efficient.
It doesn't seem as strategic.
It seems like a waste of time.
But it's exciting, dude.
It's the fun one.
It's exciting if you've got game.
It's really not exciting if you don't.
But it's more exciting if you don't.
The stakes are that much higher.
You're scared.
No, dude.
You're scared.
You have fear.
You're on top of the half pipe.
It could work.
People don't like fear.
The reason everyone is acting the way the world works now
is 98% of people are addicted to fear.
Addicted to fear?
Fear.
Fear is the currency of our society right now.
The reason everyone's pointing fingers
and talking shit 24-7, 365 is fear.
Okay.
It's insecurity.
Oh, fear of like not being paid attention to.
Just the whole fucking
macro game like someone scared them so now they're scared they're scared the world is so simple it is
truly simple if your framework in life is negativity insecurity and fear you will be mean
if it's positivity optimism and lack of fear will be nice. And then you have everything in between.
The end.
And it is the currency of why we have political unrest,
why we have so much trolling and hate on social.
The world, unfortunately, is a byproduct of parenting.
And the current 15 to 30 year olds
had the impact of mass prosperity.
What mass prosperity in the world did
was allowed parents to worry about dumb shit,
like making sure their kid got a fifth place trophy.
When the world's fucked up and everyone's working
or there's a war or there's poverty at scale
or the Great Depression, parents aren't even going to their kids game yeah here comes that
USSR we need war are you a fucking spy this is super deep state three years old
this is a three widow, they really taught me.
I knew what I was coming here to do.
I mean, it's working.
I'm on whatever side you're on, I think.
I get it.
I'm still not convinced about the NFT things because I think the value is more your time
for your NFTs.
Only because you're not educated.
Dumbass.
What a stupid motherfucker you are.
What an easy answer.
You just said fucking idiot in a nice way.
I'll tell you why.
That's not cool.
This is what he does when I realize you repackage things beautifully.
What you said about fear being the currency, I would have said the same thing about convenience.
You said it so much more poetically.
I appreciate that.
Stop complimenting him after he fucking ripped me.
That's why I'm complimenting him.
This is what they do.
They divide and conquer.
Fucking Facebook ads.
You and your fucking Facebook ads
calling the election results.
I love how everyone's so focused on Facebook ads.
Now that Facebook's declining so rapidly
that the only person that you know on it
is 86 years old,
what are we going to blame now?
What did Facebook do to you?
What are we going to blame now?
What are we going to blame now?
This is a very macro conversation.
The lack of accountability in our society is staggering.
You want to be happy?
Just blame yourself for everything.
Then you feel you're in control.
Then you can fix it and life is awesome.
You want to be upset?
Blame Mark Zuckerberg.
Well, can we blame Mark Zuckerberg for anything?
We are.
It's awfully popular.
Justifiably. Dep depends on how you see
the world i don't think facebook made me a bad person i think i was a bad person i don't think
facebook made you know what i mean like this complete facebook made me a racist okay yeah
like okay but what about like like a pharmaceutical company that puts out fentanyl and shit like that?
Is that bad?
Yeah, I hate all of pharma, so yes.
I'm undereducated.
I'm now doing what you did to my project.
Here's the answer.
It's so much more fun.
Pharma, yes.
It's actually funny.
No, no, can you tell me why I'm uneducated about this thing?
Well, because, for example, my project,
only less than 1% of the tokens were accessed to me. So what about the to me so what about the other 99 you're paying for the chance to get that access
though it's a raffle no no there is no raffle it's a raffle well that shit pretty guys
one percent of people get access to your time right is it is it the people who pay the highest
price or is it randomized any one percent could get. Because if it's any 1%, which was my understanding, layman, then it's a raffle.
That is correct.
If it was any 1%, it would be a raffle.
So who gets it?
The people who pay the most?
Unfortunately for you, in this moment, on film, is V.
Oh, no.
I look stupid on camera?
Have you ever had me before?
Call the sheriff.
Call the sheriff.
Welcome, boys.
All we think about is fire.
Unfortunately for you, you look brilliant here.
We're going to edit around it. We're going to edit around it.
My project was very unusual in the fact that it was a Dutch auction,
prices declining, and you knew what you were buying.
So people weren't buying for the hope of me.
They were buying characters for two reasons.
One, it was a ticket to a three-year conference.
So that's time with you.
So for me, well, it's not really you know you
sure i will be on for 12 minutes on camera but yeah yeah yeah yeah thanks man
you were like killing him but he had your back that's what we do yeah this is what we do you
never know whose side we're on i can start speaking to you right now, dude. Show me. Talk to a lot.
I was about to go crazy.
Yeah, I think, I think.
Biliats.
You know what's funny?
Let me break down why I think people should consider NFT projects in a world where they're very good people.
Yes.
And they are undereducated.
Let me tell you why I did.
So I go hard over a year ago and all my friends that really know me hit me up and they're like,
damn, you've been so thoughtful to like not fuck your shit up.
The fuck are you doing this for?
This feels like it can really fuck your shit up.
And this is when you called all those people
that you've known for a while.
Yeah, by the way, that's my favorite.
By the way, that meme.
Yeah.
Whenever he's like, fucking Gary Vee,
he called Mr. Beeson Logan.
That's why he's a fuck face.
I'm like, if you knew the truth,
I also posted it before I called those two
and the 700 other people I called.
I posted in my Discord that I thought CryptoPunks was good.
But people want to paint narratives
because that's what's more fun.
It makes you feel better because you're unhappy.
Yep.
No, you didn't.
You fucking lied.
You didn't call shit.
You had 700 other people that didn't call me
and tell me to get into CryptoPunks.
We don't talk on phone. That's true.
We don't talk on phone. Let me pull up the text.
If you've got receipts, I love this.
If you've got receipts, I love this.
I'm so happy.
Oh, you want me to mourn to Mike, right?
If possible.
Don't go on Andrew on Mike.
Anyway, so...
Go. Oh oh i blocked you
yeah that was a smart move while you pull up this text and you're gonna have to dispel this
because bottle water we all bought into it it's also the biggest con in first world history
why why are we paying for you know what's a bigger con in first world history? Why? Why are we paying for... You know what's a bigger con in first world history?
I want to kill you.
You want a better con
than first world history?
Don't say Jews.
Nope.
Okay, Jesus Christ.
Why would you say that?
Jesus Christ.
Gary.
Let's go with fashion.
Yep.
Yes.
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, I'm going to hurt
your feelings here.
Go, go, go.
You call both of them shitheadss you got to call me a shithead
fashion
one big game of the need to communicate to others
through what you buy
yes
are you talking about NFTs or fashion
which is why NFTs
but I love what you just
the number one
yes you can but I've got to get this
the number one, yes you can, but I've got to get this on. Get it out, get it out. Let him get it out.
My bad, my bad.
The number one reason I'm positive
that NFTs are going to win
is because it's fashion at scale.
Yeah, I believe.
Which was the same reason I knew that social was going to win
because it was fashion at scale.
Who got pussy off of NFTs so far?
Ungodly amounts of people.
Who?
I can't blow up people's spots like that you really think girls
are fucking you because you got a monkey picture yes there's no way no it's when you make money
off the monkey picture by the house in miami that's money you think girls are fucking people
because they're funny on stage no definitely not but they are never happens have you ever seen
someone in life really have you never once do you have you looked at adam sandler's face
the comedians? What in life?
Really?
Have you looked at-
Never once.
Have you looked at
Adam Sandler's face?
Yo.
That bad looking face?
You're right.
By the way,
Adam Sandler-
That's a fucking
homestar.
You know?
No, no, no.
No, no.
Someone called me
Adam Sandler
on the street last week
and I don't like it.
I don't like it.
No, no.
And because you look
like Adam,
you're in the mix.
You're in the mix.
My intuition
is Adam funny on
stage gave him more leverage to pull
than you not funny on stage
and you guys have the same face.
Thoughts?
Yes, being funny is better.
Being funny is better. No, no, no.
Having leverage is better.
Not being funny. Being funny,
lots of people are funny.
Do they cross over to the ability
to have leverage with that humor?
Once they cross over to having leverage,
then things start to change.
At some point, having a Bored Ape Yacht Club
a year ago meant nothing.
Somewhere by the fall and winter of last year,
it started to mean a little something.
And yes, I do believe that people have hooked up
because they've owned a Bored Ape Yacht Club. I know it to be true a girl dm'd oh my god nice board a no it becomes
what a loser it just signifies you're rich huh in the same way what's the difference between
oh nice lambo or oh nice rolex like a girl doesn't appreciate the difference you can ride around the
lambo you can pick them up in the lambo more people see that you have a board ape than see
you riding a Lambo.
But you don't need to fuck more people.
You just need to fuck the one girl
that sees the Lambo.
No, no, no, no.
Don't try to like,
you don't want to fuck 73 people instead of one?
That's disgusting, dude.
Yeah, okay.
That's fucking disgusting.
I've seen this show.
I don't know what type of
communist bullshit that is, bro.
That was the least disgusting thing
this show has ever said.
That is the least disgusting thing
this show has ever said.
I want love.
I want love, dude.
Well, you got love.
We're really happy for you.
That's what I need.
I'm very happy.
You don't sound happy,
to be honest with you.
I'm thrilled for you.
Okay, all right.
I just want to make sure.
I'm ecstatic.
Positivity.
Happiness.
By the way,
can we give those four guys credit?
Who?
The four dudes running around
doing my imitations
are killing it.
They're making money. I'm so pumped with those dudes those guys are killing me oh the guys that imitate you yeah
they're on fire yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm so i'm it's out of all the things in my career that
have ever happened that may be top 10 of happiness for me the fact that people are getting v conference
maybe they have to perform at v conference. We'll see if they get pussy.
Yeah.
Of course they will.
We're doing an infamous tour.
Cleveland, Friday.
Pittsburgh, Saturday.
NYC, April 16th.
We have the second show of Radio City.
Tickets flying for that.
Do not fucking wait.
I'm promising you guys.
Do not fucking wait.
Go get them shits right now um some other dates are up there those are sold out maybe there's some tickets left for
vancouver go check it out i love you guys i appreciate you guys akash what you got
yo yo toledo ohio april 1st and 2nd bring that ass through to the shows. Also, April 8th and 9th, your boy is going to be
in Tampa Bay at the Improv and
of course, Royal Theater. I'm
telling you guys you need to buy tickets because they're
selling out. I don't know if we're going to be able to add
another show. April 22nd and 23rd.
Also, April 28th
through April 30th, Bridgeport, Connecticut at the
Stress Factory. There are other shows
where the same place you can get the tickets at
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Is this guy the best one?
Is he the best impersonator?
This guy's a fucking beast.
What was the question, my man?
All right, so basically,
I'm looking now to get into public speaking.
Where are you? I would be calling into every single house in the United States of America, okay?
Giving them public speaking tips in their bathroom, shower, fucking garage, yeah, in the garage.
I was eating shit for like 17 years, doing tips for free, okay?
Bro, like, stop that, okay?
You think it's a good idea to call every single house in America?
Yeah, bro, like, Are you making this an NFT?
I'm not making this an NFT.
Okay, bro, like, garage sales.
Pause.
I once read that you said that
OnlyFans is a garage
sale for pussy.
Not true.
You didn't say that?
That's not what you said. That's what history will say.
History will say. You said history will say that
NFTs are garage sales for pussy.
Not your quote. No, I wouldn't use that word.
Huh. Vagina?
Mm-hmm.
Gary V!
What do you think the V?
Listen, I think, I think,
I think that,
I want to go back to that real quick.
Yeah.
What gets crazy,
so when you build,
I grew up thinking I was going to build businesses.
Yeah.
I also had the greatest,
I have the greatest mother of all time.
Yeah.
Who like really,
I mean, it's actually insane
how much, you know,
the game of DNA environment and who's building you
just fascinates the shit out of me.
Because it just does, right?
You see siblings, twins, same household,
lots of the same situations,
but a parent died along the way.
Wealth, not wealth.
I had the great fortune of having a framework
that I think is remarkable,
which is not having anything,
but having lots of happiness in the home.
I believe the people that,
when I look at the world,
30, 40, 50, 60 year olds,
that if you show me someone
who didn't grow up with a whole lot,
but the family was happy as fuck inside those four walls,
I'll show you somebody who's just winning in life.
It doesn't mean that they're making the most,
maybe that's not their DNA.
So I had that great fortune.
And so when I was 13, 16, when I was like,
I'm gonna build businesses,
I always knew I was gonna be a businessman.
Because of the way my mom parented me,
I also thought about things like,
and it's gonna be, like I thought things as a kid
that I'm very proud of, like,
and it's gonna be awesome
because I'm gonna put a lot of people on.
Like, I'm gonna have 30,000 employees
and they're gonna do good
and that's like a residual, like,
what I never saw was people doing things
that were gonna get benefit
from me living my life as a person.
Like, I've been following all three, four
of the impersonators pretty carefully.
Like, a lot of good stuff's happening for them.
They're getting more shows, more money, more opportunity.
That's just amazing.
And I think more people should be thinking about
what's the collateral of their success.
There are kids literally, literally,
that are going to have professional comedy-based careers
because they're watching you right now at 12.
That's cool.
Richard Pryor, Macho Man Randy Savage, 100%, 100, not 99,
have an impact to why I had a good public speaking career.
When I came out the gate and I started talking
about business, I didn't do fucking decks like everybody.
I fucking did off the the cuff stand up slash wrestling
promo talk and that was unique
and it put me on
that's happening every day
and I wish that more people that are making
doing actually
thought about what the residual was of what they're doing
and I think that actually might make them
a tweak more thoughtful
that may create more
good. I think it's great perspective perspective
is the only thing that we can control and i i do think that that's awesome um i do have another
question for you though um there's nothing more fun than that was great now let me set up what i
really want to happen i'm like so excited right now i do it all the time this is actually this is actually
serious question uh do you think it's possible that because i'm not as invested in like video
games okay and that i use the internet mostly as a promotional tool yes that i don't understand
the value of an internet presence outside of business.
Like I'm not using the internet
for my personal things really.
Me neither.
So these kids might understand an NFT
and might think it's more of a JPEG
because they understand how valuable
buying a sleeve is for Fortnite.
Yes, I do believe that that is one of the reasons
that you might not see it as easily
versus somebody who has tasted the value
of a digital asset.
It tastes like grown up in it.
It's what they know.
Yes, comma, do you think a blue check mark
on Instagram in the last decade meant something?
It depends how you look.
That's fine.
Do you think for some people...
I don't not click on a girl's picture
if she doesn't have a blue check if she has huge fat tits i understand yes i understand that's true
i understand do you believe that a blue check mark holding it hold you're holding it do you
believe it matters um yes i do believe a blue check mark i think that's one of the ways that
people can qualifier i think for a lot of people watching right now be like this fuck fuck this guy
this like maybe that sentence made them say well that is true like that shit fucking mattered one of the ways that people can- A qualifier. I think for a lot of people watching right now being like, this fuck, fuck this guy.
Maybe that sentence made them say,
well, that is true.
That shit fucking mattered,
and it was just digital.
I think the easiest way for everybody to figure it out if we're gonna stay on this subject is the following.
Everybody thought social media was stupid as fuck in 2005.
That was over the age of 30.
Yeah, I pushed back even when I was in college so the fact the matter
is the cold hard truth is the far majority of people that are watching this right now
that think nfts are scams or full of shit or a fad or fucking stupid have to really reconcile
something which is they've become their mom yeah yeah when your mom thought the iphone was stupid and she was going to live on her blackberry when your mom thought the iPhone was stupid
and she was gonna live on her Blackberry,
when your parents thought the internet was stupid,
you've become your mom.
But they were right a little.
They were super wrong.
There's good things about the internet,
but there's shitty things too.
They weren't debating the good and the bad.
They were debating this is stupid and won't be around.
The longevity of it they were debating.
This was stupid and won't be around. People aren't it they were debating. This was stupid and won't be around.
People aren't saying what's good, bad, or indifferent about NFTs.
They're saying this is fucking stupid and it won't be here.
Okay.
And they're going to be wrong as fuck.
I think that they'll be here.
There's no question.
And I think that people are going to find value in things that the masses find value.
Every single ticket to every one of your shows in seven years will 100% be an NFT.
And if that's the show where you have your greatest set
and say your singular profound joke
and your fan base in 30 years sticks to that moment,
Eddie Murphy Raw.
I would buy an Eddie Murphy Raw NFT ticket
right the fuck now.
80 bucks, 800 bucks, I'm not sure.
But guess what?
All those tickets are gone.
And guess what?
Eddie Murphy would get a royalty on my transaction today.
Yeah.
So of course he's going to issue them as tickets, not as paper or a fucking QR.
As if a QR code is a better fucking way to do it than a fucking NFT.
No, I think the tech works.
And I think that's all that matters, by the way.
I think that's where everybody's confused. Everyone's looking at how we're using it now I think there's a difference between the tech and then the picture. That's where everybody's confused.
Everyone's looking at how we're using it now
and like, this is stupid.
You're right.
A lot of this is stupid.
A small percentage is not gonna be.
All those internet companies that went to zero
when the internet stocks crashed in 2000,
they were stupid.
They were worth $8 billion in stock value
and hadn't sold anything yet on the internet.
That's stupid.
The problem was Amazon was sitting there for $6 a share
and if you spent $5,000 on that,
you'd have $13 million.
That may not be right math.
By the way, the math is profound.
And that's what's gonna happen here.
I think the way you made it digestible for me was
NFTs aren't a thing.
These brands are a thing.
And building a brand within the NFTft space is a thing correct not
every single app that goes on the app store is successful you said there's a few that do it and
that i can get on board exactly what's gonna happen it's what is the term the problem is
velocity that's right the problem is when iphone apps were the same thing great comp thank you
you weren't losing money if you were betting against candy crush and you bought candy smush
the problem with nfts is that people don't realize
how high risk the investment is
and they're just buying anything
because their friend told them
or they saw like their favorite rapper
change their profile to it
and they're getting caught
because they're gonna lose money.
In 1999 when people did that with internet stocks,
far less people knew how to buy internet stock.
Like people weren't buying on buying, like 20 year olds
weren't buying stock back then.
Now everyone's doing it.
Everyone's an investor, everyone's Robin Hood,
everyone's like an entrepreneur, an investor.
And a lot of people are gonna fucking take a big punch
to the face.
Yeah, it's almost like watches.
Which sucks.
Like, not all watches are valuable.
Correct.
But if you have an AP.
Why are sports cards, all the sports card friends I have
are like, this is stupid.
I'm like, and a picture of a man on a piece of cardboard
makes sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We've just accepted it, just like we've accepted
bottled water.
It's a new technology, everybody says no.
But we haven't accepted the tech, we've accepted the brand.
I guess that's the difference that people are.
No, actually, I'd go the way.
I think the reason this is all happening is subconsciously we've we've accepted the tech
and then consciously and consciously we're making we're gambling you see where i'm going yes yes yes
yes yes yes yes how do you know that's why people are getting fucked they like because they're like
this is right but then they're like i missed board ape and v friends well i'm gonna make my money on
the squirrel because i got FOMO
and my neighbor made
fucking $400,000
on the $800 bet.
And they can't distinguish.
They're going,
all these things
just look like pictures to me.
They don't understand
that there's this community,
I actually think it's more greed.
I actually think
it's just more greed.
I missed this one.
I'm gonna roll the dice.
It's only 700 bucks.
Stimulus checks out the ass.
There's so much money
being thrown around.
People got paid
to stay at home.
Real quick, but yes, of course it's greed,
but I guess what I'm trying to say is like,
the reason they're willing to take the risk on the squirrel
is because it already happened on the VFriend
and the Bored Ape and the World of Women.
And it looks close enough.
Yeah, yes.
You actually researched the Bored Ape
and you researched the community and you researched.
VFriends would have been easy because you would have said,
that dude has 25 years of straight success in business.
I'll make that bet.
Bored Ape was hard.
It was four anonymous founders.
But to your point,
three months after Bored Ape came out
and they were expensive,
three, four, five Ethereum,
which is a lot less than 100 Ethereum.
If you were watching as I was,
to your point,
you could have been like,
I'm going.
That community's tight as a rock.
This is the one.
It's the kith, it's the palace,
it's the Nike of this little moment.
Let me go with that one.
People using it as currency, they're posting, et cetera.
So what are the markers for you
in a good investment and a bad investment?
The human behind it, period.
Yeah, that's interesting.
I don't wanna gamble.
I never wanna gamble, so I'm gonna bet on the jockey,
not the horse.
I could see the freshest art I've ever seen,
and if I'm gonna really write a check and go in and buy,
I want to get a Zoom with the founder,
and if she or he makes me feel like they're too much
of an artist and don't have entrepreneurship,
or they're just not capable, then I would be hesitant.
Maybe I'll buy a couple because I like the art
and I just want to own it.
But as an investment,
I need to see who's driving the car
to bet on it.
Now, Bored Ape,
you said was anonymous founders.
It was.
So how do you know?
You're not going to see the human behind you.
To the point.
On Mint, I need what I just said.
As I said just earlier,
if you give me 100 days
that I can watch it form,
because look,
Mark Zuckerberg was a first time founder.
Travis, like there's a lot of people that are,
the Google founders were first time founders.
Like I don't tend to bet on first time founders
because I want to, or I'll bet on a first time founder
that sold weed or CDs or blow pops as a kid.
Show me like a hustle entrepreneur.
Yeah, I'm like okay, you're a sales person.
So at least that gives you a prayer.
But everyone's different.
I mean there's a million ways to play it.
To your point, to your point,
this last five, seven minutes I think will help people.
Whatever your concept is of how you're gonna do this,
have your concept.
Don't just do something
because your friend told you to buy it.
What, you know, some people wanna meet the founders some people want to read the discord for a week some people want to make a
bet just on the visual they're like i don't even give a fuck if it's art this art because i've got
the eye it's going to be big and there's just a million ways to play it but do some homework this
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If we understand, or go, you have something else?
I was going to say that's what's tricky about it is if you're walking around the streets of new york you can see kith
is going to be hot you just see it you could feel it you could all feel it coming you can't
necessarily that's what i do for a living i walk the streets of twitter and discord and instagram
at scale it's hard for me to walk around every part of new york but i can lay in fucking bed
and then on my phone for four hours and scroll the fucking world.
Okay, so on that, right?
You have, you know?
Yeah, that's interesting.
Let's say, for example, we understand that in order for a brand, regardless of what it is, to reach escape velocity, you need a certain amount of social proof and social qualification.
social qualification.
That's a handful of CEOs like yourself that believe in it mixed with celebrities,
mixed with, I don't know,
random fucking VCs or investors.
What's stopping you and a bunch of your buddies
from just putting together that group of people
and printing money out of thin air,
making the next board ape,
making the next thing?
If we understand it's just 100 people.
But it's not how it actually works.
100 people give you a better at bat at it.
I would agree with you that the right 100 people,
that Gunna and Ninja the Gamer and Drake
and you know, Gaios and you,
like people with platform are gonna give it more awareness
but it's like a Super Bowl ad.
The Super Bowl ad is the greatest ad in marketing.
Why?
Because you get almost half the country
to actually watch it, which is impossible.
So it's great.
But if the fucking 30 second video sucks shit,
you fucked up.
You can get all top, let's make a list,
the top 500 fucking influencers in the world
that move culture in every genre.
Comedy, rap, influencer TikTok, entrepreneurship,
whatever it is.
If all of them got behind something
where the operator, where she or he was incapable
of taking that opening and driving it to success,
it will go to zero.
And I've seen that time and time again
in startup land and in NFT land.
So it doesn't matter.
There's no amount of social proof that can push a project forward if it's not man-made.
No, it can give you an opening.
It's like a hot club, like New York, right?
You know this, right?
Like a hot club, we've seen it through the years.
All the right people get together, it opens,
the first weekend's fresh.
Yeah.
You got it.
It's all the same shit.
Like this is why it's important to think.
Because people right now, back to lack of accountability,
pointing, it's a fun narrative.
Like fuck, it's a great narrative.
Those hundred people, those, Illuminati fucking.
But it's just not true.
If it was true, it would happen every second,
every day, all day.
It actually works the other way.
When it's more organic.
Of course, because the streets don't fuck with it. Yeah.
Got it?
Yeah, yeah.
By the way, it's-
How do you get the streets to fuck with it?
You've got to have a little bit of kind of both, right?
It's like cooking a good meal.
You've got to have a little level there.
A little bit of mama's pasta sauce.
You've got to be a little bit still in the dirt.
You've got to actually be good.
Actually, I'll give you a compliment right now.
This is a fun segue.
It's how I looked at you for a long time.
You know, like what's happening with you this last year,
for me, no different than like Gunna
and other like rappers, startups,
Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr.
I have a good, I've been,
and by the way, what the fuck did I do?
Mom and dad had sex at the right second
and gave me that DNA.
I have this good intuitive feeling of like,
just enough this, just enough that, just enough this.
And for me, you know, in my circles,
back to when I did the podcast with you in Charlamagne,
even like two years earlier, I'm like,
that guy's gonna win.
But it doesn't happen overnight.
You know this.
Like it's, the reason, back to your analogy,
why those things, if Justin Bieber's gotten behind things,
there's tons of people, the Migos,
people are getting behind shit left and right.
None of it's working because it's not right.
It's not right.
And so with you, you could have gotten
all 50 fucking comedians that mattered in the world
and whoever was popping on Vine at the time
being like, he's next, And it still wouldn't have happened
unless you actually had it.
Yeah, they still try to do that
with certain people and it don't work.
It never works.
I mean, look at all the people that try to do that in hip hop
sign the kids from around the way,
they're gonna put them on,
they're the biggest rappers at the time, right?
In the world.
But like when Snoop comes on Dre shit,
it's gonna work because Snoop Snoop.
But do I have to tell you about all the people
that had features
on the biggest albums second album of biggest rappers because they tried to put their boys on
and those people sucked like look i love little c's but there was only so much biggie could do
it wasn't gonna happen like that like c's is amazing i can't wait to run into him and give
love like he sees but he's not one of the 50 best rappers of all time who's the little c's of nfts um i have no fucking idea these are these we got
your apes up here right now yeah what's the most expensive ape i don't i'm not educated enough on
apes i think it's the gold ones i think But I don't have any of the crazy ones.
What is crazy in terms of price?
And I don't think those are real apes.
These are all bullshit things that got dropped into me.
You mean they just give it to you?
Yeah, one of the worst things
that is about decentralized servers,
you know, it's so funny,
everyone's like, fuck the man, fuck Zuckerberg.
They don't realize what they're saying.
They're saying, fuck centralized servers.
Companies that control shit
because we're on their server.
JPEGs. Now NFTs come along
and they're like yeah decentralized
like nobody owns this.
Nobody owns the NFT
ecosystem. Is this what people
mean when they say Web3? Yes.
And they mean a lot of things. The metaverse
VR. There's a lot of the terms being
thrown around. People use it kind of like Uber
now. This is the Uber of weed.
This is the Web 3 of Spotify.
Yes, that always happens.
Social media, Web 2, yes.
It's just a way for people to digest information.
But what is Web 3?
Web 3, let me say it this way
that I know everybody will understand.
You know how everybody throws around the culture?
Yeah.
And it means 947,000 things?
That's what Web 3 is.
It just means an all-encompassing word
deciding how you're going to say it
in the context of the agenda that you are saying it in.
Yeah, okay, okay, good.
Now I don't feel that bad.
And then, and I honestly was excited to have you here
so I could learn about this stuff.
You know, metaverse, I hear this term all the time, metaverse.
And I literally, and I'm a boomer maybe,
but I'm imagining Ready Player One.
You see the Oculus and all this kind of stuff.
Is there a place in the metaverse that is ready for that?
Are we going to be living in these internet sleeves?
I think we will live in the metaverse at some point.
I think if you ask me the number one place
where a lot of money is gonna be lost,
it's in land in the metaverse
because I don't think we're there yet.
NFTs, we were there because NFTs are using
the foundation of social media to be real.
Back to fashion, I knew that if I was right
a year and a half ago, that if this was gonna pop off,
people were gonna put it into their social,
that's exactly what's happened.
The problem with the metaverse is we have nowhere to put it
and we're not living in there yet.
So there was a lot of apps that came out too early
when the iPhone came out.
We can't brag about our real estate within the metaverse
because there's no place to show people that we have.
It's all the same shit.
Yeah.
The world's the same.
How do I flex?
How do I flex?
And flex is the cynical point of view.
I actually think a lot of people shop creatively.
There's people that want to buy Balenciaga
and all the brands all over themselves.
They're basically saying fuck you, I'm rich.
Or what they're really saying is I'm so insecure,
I gotta show you how rich I am, please like me.
Fuck me.
Yes, fuck me is exactly right.
Please, that's right, comma please.
But what a lot of people do
is actually express themselves through it, right?
So it's like the converse there is a decision.
You guys knew balancing it is a decision.
All black is a decision.
Facial hair is a decision.
It's all a decision.
We don't think about it, but it is.
And I think humans need to communicate
through words, right?
Through the written word, through songs, through art.
What we buy is actually the biggest way
we communicate in the world.
Because it shows up every day.
What zip code do you live in?
What car do you drive?
And most of all, what clothes and stuff do you have?
Some of it.
Now what influences those decisions?
Many things.
People we look up to,
what tribe we want to be in, right?
Like, let's talk about something
I think all of us can connect on.
Remember when hip hop started to wear vans?
That was an evolution.
I was like, what?
You know, and Lil Wayne was like a real part
of that skateboard crossover.
But like, this is what I do for a living.
I walk the streets digitally. I But like, this is what I do for a living.
I walk the streets digitally.
I'm like, wait a minute, Southside Atlanta
is wearing Surfer Boy sneakers?
What's this mean?
This is some crazy fusion shit.
This is an evolution.
I looked at it as a positive.
I'm like, good, let's all come together, keep mixing.
But consciously, when that became appropriate
because this, you know, because Pharrell did this
or ASAP crew did that or Wayne did this,
there's some kid in an urban area
who doesn't feel associated
or maybe can't afford Jordans.
That's like, yo, I can go and buy a pair of vans yeah and for 40 bucks be in this
little community so there's a lot of things that go into this a lot yeah acceptance tribalism
communication this is all human shit yeah that was a real ignorant question i had about the
metaverse is why are you paying so much for land when you could literally live and build anything you want to? It's all virtual reality, right? I could have the
biggest palace on earth. I don't have to pay contractors to build something. Well, it depends
on how that platform works. You're talking about something pretty interesting. I think the
vulnerability to the metaverse land thing is we're not there yet. And by the time we are there yet,
five, seven, nine years from now, it's going to be owned by the person that owns the hardware.
It's going to be this that owns it. And by the way, if you're mad at nine years from now, it's gonna be owned by the person that owns the hardware. It's gonna be this that owns it.
And by the way, if you're mad at Mark Zuckerberg now,
get ready to be real mad
because Meta and Oculus
is so much further ahead of everybody.
There's not even a close second.
Not on Amazon, not a fucking China,
not on anything.
There's nothing close.
Fucking Oculus is so far ahead
and it'll be really interesting
because they've got Andrew Bosworth
who's got a back to the jock, right?
He was a beast at Facebook.
They now made him in charge of that whole thing.
I think they got a real shot.
If we're gonna get to Ready Player One,
if I had to bet, I think it's gonna be meta
that gets most of the people to be into the metaverse
and then whatever land they're gonna sell's gonna be meta that gets most of the people to be into the metaverse and then
whatever land they're gonna sell is gonna be the land because the the great thing about real estate
in the real world is the earth is the earth yeah yeah yeah the bad thing with land in the metaverse
is i can roll out vayner land right now and start selling plots and you can and they can and so it's
unlimited inventory which is bad for supply and demand.
It's unlimited inventory.
And it's also, it doesn't take you time to get somewhere.
Like it takes you time to go from New York to St. Bart's.
In the metaverse, I imagine you just snap your fingers
and then you're at Gary's house.
But that's why the metaverse is going to win.
Yeah, but that-
Long term.
But I guess-
Because all we pick is convenience.
There are people right now who don't have a lot of money
who are paying $4 on delivery fee for their coffee in the morning because that's how valuable convenience. There are people right now who don't have a lot of money who are paying $4 on delivery fee
for their coffee in the morning
because that's how valuable convenience is.
You're paying $4 to fucking Seamless,
$4 on top of your coffee for it delivered
and you're like crying about not having enough money.
That's how powerful convenience is,
that you are financially anxious every day of your life yet
three times a week because we're all at home you don't want to get out of your house to go
downstairs in a big city to get your coffee you'd rather pay four dollars yeah in service fee
and people talking shit like fuck my boss no fuck you don't buy nine dollar cups of coffee yeah
yeah i'm with you now here's a question about buying in the metaverse then why do you need
land in the metaverse if i could just to your point immediately transport back to my place
be out in the metaverse i don't need to live in a cool neighborhood because your place your place
in real life no i'm saying if uh let's say i bought vaynerland let's say vaynerland is selling
plots but metaverse is where all the same reason you go to anything in life
because other people are there that you want to be with.
Yeah, I'll go chill with them with a snack.
And the brand exclusivities in one world versus the other.
If Nike only signs with Meta
and I want to be wearing that in the Metaverse,
I'm going to be in that.
Every restaurateur, every nightclub business,
every fashion brand should know how to navigate the metaverse very simple.
It's always the same dynamics.
It's human truths.
The reason you're gonna put a fucking helmet on
is because everyone else did.
When everybody was holding onto their Blackberry,
I was like, you're gonna give up your Blackberry.
All my fucking corporate friends were like,
I gotta touch the fucking buttons.
I'm like, you're going to.
And the reason I was pot committed to that
was I knew that everybody would have an iPhone
and it would systematically eventually break you down.
Yeah.
Do you think you're good at managing people?
Very.
What makes you good at that?
Empathy.
That's tough.
I'm incredibly empathetic.
You just fucked his mouth.
You really hurt him right there.
Look how he looked at you.
He's so upset right now. He just fucked his mouth. You really hurt him right there. Look how he looked at you. He's so upset right now.
He's upset right now.
Is this a fucking Pixar movie
we're doing over here?
No, no.
No, what do you,
what does that mean?
I,
naturally,
my default,
no different than being competitive,
no different than,
what's a,
actually a funny one.
Gary Vee's really candorous in a podcast,
my biggest weakness as a manager was candor,
because it's easy for me to talk to the world
through all these cameras, but if I think Jason or Sean,
who work for me, are doing something poorly,
it was incredibly hard for me to tell them the truth.
I tried to build them up, you know,
I tried to build them up, but it would be hard for me
to sit down because I hate fear so much,
and I wasn't mature enough in the first 20 years
of my career to realize candor was eliminating fear.
I thought candor was creating fear.
I thought if I said, Jason, you know,
I gotta be honest with you, like,
the way you edit or the time you're putting in
or whatever it is, that wasn't,
because I thought as soon as he would leave my office,
he'd go to LinkedIn and start updating his resume.
He's like, I'm gonna get fired.
And I kind of had it I misunderstood now I now I really focus on candor
a lot more I call it kind candor so I always try to deliver that medicine with a lot of sugar
but I definitely trying to deliver more medicine older in my career I think that came natural to
me the lack of kind the lack of candor came natural to me and it was a vulnerability.
On the flip side, the reason I think I've led well
my whole career is empathy comes really natural to me.
My father always thought that employees were servicing him
and that they were the enemy.
It came from the USSR, like it was a lot of fucked up.
It was an immigrant thing.
He's like, literally the first thing my dad told me
when I was 14 driving to the liquor store was,
"'Keep an eye on the employees, they steal.'" I was like, fuck, literally the first thing my dad told me when I was 14 driving to the liquor store was keep an eye on the employees they steal.
Fuck, what the hell am I getting myself into?
So I on the other hand always say I work for them.
Why would they even work here?
They've got options.
They're doing a poor job.
My brain goes into not they suck.
My brain goes to I hope their family's okay.
Maybe they're sucking at work because something bad.
Empathy is very, very natural to me,
thus I think I'm a good leader because I always think
what's in it for them and then I'll get to me.
And I think if you do that for everybody,
you find yourself in a very powerful place.
I always think about it as 51-49.
If every relationship I have on earth,
I'm minimally, if like the god of relationships came down
and she was like, you two,
I would sit there like scared, be like,
I hope I got at least 51% of the value of this relationship.
Like I always go into everything like,
can I just give more?
Sometimes it's 90%, but if I can give at least 51%
of the value of this relationship,
me and every individual person on earth,
well then I'm gonna know what to do with my 49.
So I think about that a lot.
And I think most people are like, I gotta get 80.
Like what are they doing for me?
It comes from ego and insecurity, entitlement.
What are you doing for me?
And now it's rampant.
All these stimulus checks got everybody thinking
like everything's easy.
Like everybody owes you.
Your mom owes you, your dad owes you, the government owes you, the easy like everybody owes you your mom owes you your
dad owes you the government owes you uh the person you follow owes you like everybody owes you yeah
yeah am i oversimplifying on that point by thinking the labor shortage is the most american
shit ever where it's like we're gonna close early why not people don't want to work it's crazy people
like i don't want to yeah i mean i think but i also think those bosses have to look themselves
in the mirror like yeah like like if you're a piece of shit to your employees,
of course they don't want, people have options.
I always say to myself, I'm like,
why would these fuckers work for me?
They can go make 100,000 if they listen to me
just on fucking TikTok ads.
All that garage sale joking shit,
I'm not fucking joking out here.
I think anybody making under $100,000 a year
that is deeply unhappy should quit
and garage sale 52 weeks a year.
Goodwill, garage sales, eBay, easy $100,000.
Give yourself three months to really learn the game.
Fucking every thrift shop.
Are you kidding me?
Free money.
Shut the fuck up.
Dead fucking serious.
Jesus Christ.
We got employees here, Gary.
God damn it.
Trying to destroy my business.
I'm buying Hot Wheels.
I'm out.
I'm out. Hot Wheels are paper. No, I hear you. God damn it. Trying to destroy my business. I'm buying Hot Wheels. I'm out. I'm out.
No, I hear you.
Hot Wheels are paper.
Yeah.
No, I hear you.
Everything's paper.
Most people don't want to talk that shit.
They don't want to live that life.
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profile but they don't want to live it they don't want to wake up at 6 30 on a saturday
they don't want to what about packing and shipping it gary i'm like cool don't go back to your job
where the fucking boss is shitting on you 24 77. The fuck you want from me? Yes, you have to pack and ship it.
Gary, what about the gas fees?
This is bullshit.
What about the gas fees?
I'm like, you pay gas.
You can still make plenty,
a hundred profit
with $7 a fucking barrel,
not fucking a gallon,
not one.
People
don't want to be about that life.
You about it.
Okay. The most. Gary. that life. You about it. Okay.
The most.
Gary.
The fucking most.
Love it.
How do you feel about the oligarchs
getting their yachts taken away?
I have to tread lightly here
because I was born in this,
you know,
you Americans have it good.
Yeah, we do.
If you weren't born in that place,
they're not going to touch you.
I need to be a little bit careful here.
I think all bad shit should lose.
Should lose? Yes. Meaning, what does that mean? On here. I think all bad shit should lose. Should lose?
Yes.
Meaning, what does that mean?
On earth, I think everything that is done.
All bad shit.
All bad shit.
So if those oligarchs,
which American media definitely has me believing it,
Russian TV, which has been shut off,
has me not believing it,
but I'm gonna go with believing it.
Good.
I love it.
To me, I can't wait to get to heaven,
even though I wanna live for 100 years, I can't wait to get to heaven even though I want to live for 100 years
because I believe in merit.
Everyone's in love with this concept
that things are not fair.
I'm the other way.
I think people think in money too much.
Let me promise you something.
If someone's a piece of shit
and doing terrible things,
Harvey Weinstein, Oligar,
take the gamut.
Whatever, stealing money, abusing people,
trafficking humans, wherever your moral compass is
on what's bad, I promise you,
when someone's doing something bad, they don't sleep well.
So you're envious of their fucking Lambo,
and I'm envious that I sleep like a baby
eight hours a night.
People are so fucking confused out here, Schultz.
Like, what do I think?
I think if they're pieces of shit,
they shouldn't,
not only should they not have boats or cash,
they should fucking really pay the ultimate price
of like unhappy lives.
And I think most people that are doing bad shit
are actually living unhappy lives.
Everyone's confused by their makeup of money,
but deep down, they're fucking miserable.
And I know this because as my career has taken me
to higher planes, I just know so many miserable
as fuck rich people.
Like deeply unhappy, deeply hurt.
Right?
You listen.
Yeah, 100%.
Money doesn't equate to happiness, I mean that 100%.
Here come all the comments like fuck you, let me find out for myself cool do it you wouldn't know you broke bitch
talking all that shit right no listen like it's not even about that it's about
saying let me find out as if they want you to give it to them yes go find out then yes yeah
because i think a lot of people would say well you just compartmentalize so that you can move forward which i you know i think is a probably a good
idea well that's what that's what humans do yeah but then they're saying well you're oversimplifying
and that's the only way you can that's how you cope you have to oversimplify i don't agree with
them but i'm telling you what the pushback i think would be he's compartmentalizing he just
oversimplifies everything so he can move forward and keep doing his thing he doesn't want to
actually think about the problems in the world.
But that goes back down to you thinking that there was a raffle to my thing.
I love when people are like,
you don't think about the world.
I'm like, do you want to come over and look at receipts?
As if people know what people are doing in private.
No, no, but let's talk about this.
Let's talk about judgment,
the great disease of America.
I love this judgment game.
When you bring that up,
I watch my friends judge others,
people I know,
and I'm like,
you're wrong.
What do you know about
what they're doing for this?
Women's rights,
racial injustice.
But you don't,
you're just,
you decided you saw
seven pieces of content
on the internet
and you know somebody?
I would say that that's you
making yourself feel better by tearing someone
else down but you've even said like you're like there's no point in judging like even when people
judge you for drinking the baby blood or whatever to go to sleep at night remember how you and your
billionaire friends will drink the adrenocrystal you do drink a drink no remember when you said
that when you have the meeting you're trying to bring me to one tonight i know about it He's not the Illuminati. He's not the Illuminati. You do drink Adrena Co. No. He's a Russian spy. He's not the Illuminati.
You're trying to bring me to one tonight.
I know about it.
No, no, no.
You get all the billionaires together and you drink the baby's blood so you can go to sleep
at night.
He doesn't drink Adrena Co.
No, no, no.
You don't think he does drinks Adrena Co.?
No.
Are you sure?
He's our guest.
Can you be nice?
He's our guest.
No, I feel nice.
That was flat research.
It was part of the research.
When I was thinking about my life, I'm like, one day I'm going to be on a solidly solid,
slightly above average podcast with a really charismatic host and he's gonna tell me
that i'm in the illuminati i would have been like bet this is a highlight of my life well i'm not
done yet oh keep going because i do believe that you'll own the jets me too i know you believe it
it's kind of scary how much i actually believe it considering it's ludicrous.
Why is that scary?
Because I 100% believe it.
Yeah.
As if like,
like the same way that all of you believe
the sun will come up tomorrow.
I'll be pissed too.
No, I'd be pissed off if you were fake
and believe in it this whole time.
Oh God, sorry.
I 100% believe that you believe it.
Yeah, I really believe it.
Now, if, when, sorry, when you own the Jets.
Yes.
Are you going to give Kaepernick a tryout?
Yes.
No matter how old he is?
Yes.
If he wants it.
If he wants it.
Can I have a tryout?
Yes.
What position would you be in?
Defensive lineman.
Defensive lineman.
Yes.
Can I drink Adrenochrome before?
Yes.
From your private stash?
Yes.
100%?
Yes. You'll give me the good shit?
The best shit.
Those Chernobyl kids?
All of it.
All of it.
By the way, thank God,
can we segue for four seconds on gratitude?
Yes.
Back to like coping mechanisms.
This has been really fun.
Thank you for having me.
Of course.
If, you know,
a lot of people are going to watch this
over the next two decades.
If somebody wants to leave with something.
Yeah.
Everyone's got a different process.
Yeah.
You know, religion, meditation,
psychedelic, you know, friends.
There's a million ways to go about this.
Yeah. Somehow fighting, fighting,
to find a path towards actually
having a relationship with gratitude
is the way to cope.
I cope not because of like,
I'm gonna look over here and not over there.
I cope because I say every hour of my life,
thank you God that my mom and dad,
kid, like people are alive mom and dad, kid,
like people are alive.
Like true,
basic,
you know,
it was funny listening to how you were talking.
I was like,
the ability to take complex things
into a simple place
is a profound reality
of how to navigate.
You could take everything you're stressed about
and everything you want
and then make pretend
that the two people you love the most
are over for dinner,
go to get a bottle of wine
because you ran out of it
and get hit by a car on the way and die.
Would you give a fuck
about all the dumb shit you're worried about?
The answer is always no
and nobody plays that game with themselves.
I'm very big on gratitude.
Why not be happy for what you have?
Why are you so fucking focused on what you don't have?
Gary, I think that one advantage that you do have is that you're, at least it seems to me, it's always seemed to me that you're absolutely head over heels in love with what you do.
A hundred percent.
You speak with an insane amount of excitement.
And I've been talking to you probably for about seven years now,
every once in a while.
Yep.
And you're still excited.
And you're excited by the new thing.
And then the next new thing.
And the next new thing.
And it's relatable because I'm as excited about comedy.
I know.
So I get that.
Yeah.
And I think that there are certain people that haven't found their thing
that they're excited about.
And when they do find it they transition from
is he a motivational speaker what's going on to oh i get it now it's seeing the light and that's
and i because people and i always thought you this about you in the initial i was like dude is he is
he on a adderall like what the fuck like i was like where's the energy from and then i understand
the energy i have when i'm excited about a project and you're talking to people and you're literally
looking at these folks at home and you're just going, guys, I swear to God, if you do these things, it will work out.
Your life will be better.
And they're looking at you like, I don't know what it's like to feel excited about something.
And back to empathy, one of the reasons I've been able to put myself out there is I'm comfortable with people saying, you're a scam artist.
You're on drugs.
You're a piece of shit.
Fuck you.
you're a scam artist, you're on drugs,
you're a piece of shit, fuck you.
Because when I see it, much like if I'm looking at Jason and being like, damn, today's not a good month,
I'm thinking, is he okay?
Not, oh, I gotta find Karen and replace him.
I do the same with the comments.
To actually take time to go to your page and be like,
dude, you're not as fucking funny as you,
and you're a sellout now.
Like, I watch.
I feel bad. I don't know what, it'll do it i i watch yeah i feel bad i
don't know what it's not like and i don't feel bad like oh what was them i'm like man i hope they
hear something i hope somebody comes into their life i hope something happens that triggers what
you just talked about where you're not taking your time wait a minute let me get this straight
you've decided to allocate your time to watch this so you can tell that person that they suck that's a bad use of five minutes yeah and it's a fucking complete
exposing of that person's unhappiness gary they got nothing but time well because they don't have
something they're excited about that's when you're excited about something you don't have time to
come which is why i attack the reframing of success. We, the people out here that are happy,
that want good for others,
must take on the accountability
to change the conversation of what success looks like.
When people think success is money and stuff,
the whole thing's fucked.
If people come along
and start really having a thoughtful conversation
and saying, what, you don't know a stay-at-home mom or dad
that's happy as fuck?
Because I sure do, my mom was that.
That was her calling.
You don't know a cop or a fireman or a teacher
or a public servant that is the happiest fucker you know?
Of course you do, you're not looking for that.
You'd rather look at somebody who's mentally unhappy
and has money and say, I want to be that,
versus looking at somebody in your circle right now
who's making 78k a year
and fucking loving life.
But no, you don't want that because the fucking world
has said this is what good is.
And I'm telling you it's not.
What good is is that you wake up in the fucking morning
and you're like yes, smile.
And I think if people had humility and didn't give a fuck
about what other people thought about them,
they might actually be able to listen to this podcast
and say, you know what, fuck this bullshit, he's right.
I'm gonna quit this fucking $180,000 a year job
that I fucking hate.
Yes, I got a house that I need to make $180,000 for.
Now that I don't, fuck it, I'm gonna sell this house.
I'm not gonna live in Summit, New Jersey anymore.
I'm gonna live in an apartment
in fucking Colonia, New Jersey,
and I'm gonna build back up to happiness not
fucking facade i'm good but then later you're not good yeah yeah that's what i believe if you
think summit new jersey is class you got a lot to learn about the world buddy i think i think that
that is beautifully said man i think that is beautifully said they need to find the thing
that they're excited about And that's not easy
And that's the other thing
It's like we assume that it's easy
For you and I we probably fell into it
We knew the things more or less that excited us
And then we like gravitated towards those things
But what people don't understand was
There was a lot of shit that came along with that
Yeah dude this shit is hard
But excitement doesn't mean that we don't have to go through hard things
I look forward to hard shit Because I'm excited about getting through it.
Now you're in that zone.
I'm talking about when, you know, I don't know for you, but, you know, being a child and having your entire childhood, every adult that you came across telling you that you're going to fail in life is not an easy path.
Every teacher, every friend's parent, because they knew i was a dnf student looking
me dead in the face i'm fucking nine yeah i'm 11 yeah i got fucking grown fucking ass 45 year
old teachers in the 80s and 90s pulling me aside as a 13 year old and saying you are going to be
a garbage man you you are you i know yeah why do you think i did it they were right i was like
they nailed it but Big shout out.
Hey, Dr. DiBella, you got one, dickface.
Like, fuck.
Like, you know, like, you know when I do that shit?
You know when my brain just runs?
Man, I wonder if Dr. DiBella's grandkids are like, oh, fuck, why'd they shit on my grandpa?
He's dead.
Because he deserved it.
Dickface, junior, junior. But I think it's really fascinating. He's dead Because he deserved it Oh my gosh Big face Junior
Junior
But I think
But I think
I think it's really fascinating
Yeah
I think it's super interesting
That you know
Like everything comes with a price
And I
Like this is why
I have no interest in judging
When I'm like
Oh these people are lazy at home
All my
You know
Gary
Right
Like you worked hard
Tell them they're fucking lazy
It's not even about
that i'm not judging you do you do you like as if like when we're all laying on our deadbed yeah
right i promise you're not like man i wonder what johnny pants 47 from 2022 on tiktok's doing
don't give a fuck about that shit yeah i'd like other people to be happy because I'm happy. But if you're unhappy, what?
Like what?
It's easy to be lazy.
It's hard.
Like what am I supposed to go to your house and give you money?
Like what?
No, don't give a shit.
It's just easy to be lazy when you don't love the thing.
And then when you do love the thing, it's hard to be lazy.
Brother, I got D's and F's.
I understand it the most.
I had nothing for school.
Every teacher, my mom, who's my hero, she's like, can you just get Cs?
If you fucking gave one hour a day,
you would get Cs?
I'm like, nah.
Too lazy.
I know people laying in bed,
shitting on people at 5.45 in the afternoon,
saying you suck because they're out there doing
and you're unhappy.
I know what that life is.
I lived it.
It was me saying you suck to school.
I was like fuck you system, I'm not conforming.
You got all these other fuckers
that you're gonna make into employees.
Seriously, I wish I was making videos.
You think these videos are good?
If I had social media at 13,
I would have been dropping profound ass shit
as a 13 year old.
I would have because I was in i was in that life i was
like this school is bullshit and by the way in 1988 people didn't have school figured out yet
they also didn't have flashlights they didn't have school figured out that's true we all thought it
was right college degree they had us fooled yeah college degree maybe it meant a little more back
then though like correct back then it did mean a little bit. Now we see your philosophy.
All of it.
I love that you could be a triple fraud,
declare bankruptcy and start over,
but you can't declare bankruptcy
against a student loan.
That's all you need to know about the game.
You can be a triple fraud,
in jail three times, four times,
go bankrupt, clean it on some bankruptcy shit,
but if you have a 37 000 bill
to the university of indiana cough it up to interest until you're dead yeah and when you
die we're gonna get your grandkids for that money oh shit is that true even follows you after death
my dad always left get out of here yeah your college loans if you don't pay them off they go
to your kids or your parents or whoever that goes they're
getting that money it's true right yeah i'm a little undereducated on that part i'm pretty
sure that's the way it is at least my dad used to always tell me here's all i know people need
to become more self-aware and become more focused group of one meaning don't worry about what
schultz he's doing or i'm doing or college plenty of people should go to college crush and be happy
just figure out what the fuck makes you
happy it is tough a lot of people don't know a lot of people i know 40 years old 45 years old
don't know how do you identify it i think first you have to like accept the truth that it's
happening right like one of the things that motivates me to continue to do things like this
is i'm hoping one fucker one one, one person's listening right now
while they're on the treadmill,
walking the dog, watching it,
and I don't know, you know,
is like, this is true, and I'm gonna do it.
Right, first it's, I'm unhappy.
Because what people are doing,
back to deflecting or recategorizing,
all the hate they're spilling
is making them realize that they're not unhappy.
The reason they don't realize they're unhappy is because they're deploying unhappiness on others. They think they're not unhappy. The reason they don't realize they're unhappy
is because they're deploying unhappiness on others.
They think they're right.
They're just keeping it real.
Andrew, I'm unhappy.
We know, Dov, look at you.
By the time we're done with this podcast,
there's not gonna be anybody in this room.
It's over.
But you know, back to coping mechanisms,
whatever that escapism is, right?
Like watching Netflix, playing video games,
drugs, alcohol, but the one that is really most prominent
because everyone's living their life publicly now
is spending time consuming
and telling people you don't like them.
That's getting the poison out.
It's a form of therapy, but it's defense.
So the way to do it is like, this combo is real.
I actually am unhappy.
The next one is building a relationship with humility.
If you're in a place where you define yourself as unhappy
and you're really actually ready to make a change,
most people aren't capable of taking the judgment from their circle
on their move.
Yeah.
You know, that little earlier thing of like
selling a home you bought and moving your family
into an apartment in a less nice neighborhood
Hard to do.
is almost impossible.
Hard to do.
Nobody wants to,
whoa, what happened?
Yeah.
I don't know what happened, Dick.
What's going on in your life? Don't worry about my life. Right. People don't know what happened, Dick. What's going on in your life?
Don't worry about my life.
People don't have that gear.
People don't have that gear.
They are more worried about the people in the stands
booing them than they are worried about
what they're doing on the field.
For me, I've always associated my career
and my moves like an athlete.
This is what I'm doing.
Some will go well, some will go poorly,
but I don't have really time for you
best friends family that are watching eating popcorn and judging what i'm doing on the field
you go on the field but most people have got a sister they look up to got a neighbor yeah it's
rooted in insecurity like you said 100 this is all about community means so much too i mean it
means so much yeah and you love these
people so by the way sometimes they're not even poisonous you just don't want to look bad in front
of them because you love them so much it's not even that your mom's fucked up or fuck you you
know it's actually you care about them so much you don't want to let them down yeah so when you
started this you said your parents took a lot uh took a lot of heat you took a lot of heat was it
hard for your mom to let you i'm'm gonna go to garage sales and make money.
No, that's little shit.
My mom did bigger shit.
I'm an immigrant in the 80s.
Yes, I'm talking about this.
Every Russian Jewish kid
is fucking getting straight A's.
Everyone's going to Harvard
and fucking Princeton and Yale.
If you suck, you're going to NYU.
And I'm out here getting D's and F's
like community colleges are laughing at me.
For my mom to not give a fuck
what all the other mothers thought,
that's when she won, which made me win.
By the way, the reason I'm rolling through society, Gary,
I don't even think it's me.
All these accolades, when I get all these roses,
they feel so good because I'm like, my mom,
you're giving me roses and I'm just, I'm getting all this goat emojis
in the fucking comments and I'm just calling my mom,
like mom, you made me a goat, you're the fucking goat.
I'm a pass through.
What about dad, does dad get any love too?
He does, he does.
He does, he does.
I don't think he noticed.
I don't think he noticed.
He said immigrant dad, so it's like a different, I mean. He does. I don't think you noticed. I didn't notice that. He said immigrant dad. So it's like a different, you know what I mean?
Jewish immigrant.
Hey, let me give my dad a huge prop.
Let me give my dad an old.
He loves you, but he don't got to tell you.
Well, he definitely.
My dad actually, you know, listen.
No, no, no.
No, in a good way.
My dad actually tells me a lot that he loves.
Like, my dad comes through on that power.
Here's my dad actually.
You know, I always say this to my dad. Those emotional Russian dads. My dad worked every minute. I didn't's my dad actually, you know, I always say this to my dad.
My dad worked every minute.
I didn't see my dad until I was 14 years old.
I have less than five memories of my dad under 14.
He slept in the same house as me every night.
That's how much he worked.
Every minute.
So, you know, I feel like I was built in those 15, 14.
Do you have brothers and sisters?
Younger.
Did a couple other things.
So,
Yeah, she ain't caring. Mommy, Dad, I found condoms a couple other things. So, yeah. Gary.
My dad, I found condoms when I was 10.
I was like, ah!
Why?
He was a dad of my two chicks?
What the fuck?
A lot of times he wasn't using condoms.
Fair enough.
So, my dad and mine.
Dad did a big ass thing, actually.
What'd he do?
One of the reasons I'm empathetic when people are like, yo, fuck Gary V.
Like, he's full of shit. For some reason in my stomach,
I think he fucking is a piece of shit.
I'm like, you know, I get it.
And I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
What dad did, which is why, when I talk to mom and dad,
and we're like, my parents are only 20 years older than me.
So we're like friends.
You know, that's one of the great things
of having young parents.
I know everybody who's listening that has that.
Especially when you get to like 25 and they're 45,
it's just like,
these guys are 20 years younger than me.
I'm like, and we're the same, right guys?
Right?
So it's really cool, and we're real close.
We came over from the old country together.
My dad worked every minute, I was the oldest,
so I was my mom's right hand, then I came into the business
and completely blew it up for my dad,
so we're real intertwined. I always tell my dad so I was my mom's right hand. Then I came into the business and completely blew it up for my dad. So we're real intertwined.
I always tell my dad, I'm like,
I always give mom the rose, but I'm like,
but dad, and I do this at times,
the thing you did is actually super crazy
because I came in at 14 to work at my dad's liquor store
and I was already lemonade stand,
shoveling snow, fucking baseball card,
hustler Jersey boy,
AKA, I'll say anything for the sale.
Anything.
So I came into my dad's liquor store
and my dad's like,
that's the important wine to sell
and people would come in
and I'd be like,
yo, you should buy this
and they're like, why?
I'm like, look, I tried it.
It's phenomenal.
I'm 14, I look seven.
I didn't try shit.
I knew anything, just buy it. I'll take my arm because you'll win I look seven. I didn't try shit. I knew Eddie there, just buy it.
I'll fucking take my arm,
because you'll win the lotto.
I didn't give a fuck what came out of my mouth.
My dad is such an honorable dude.
My dad thinks if you embellish,
if you said, if you got to know my dad,
and my dad's like, how was the show last night?
And you're like, it was crazy.
There was 15,000 people there.
He'd be like, there was 14 was 14 932 and he's scary my dad's got these eyebrows that are in permanent mean mode right
jason my dad's scary my dad's scary so i was scared as fuck and we were immigrants so like
there used to be a belt that hung above at the top of the i grew up in russia the first 10 years of
my life so when i was a kid above door, there was a nail and a belt.
But on some like the guy from Kill Bill shit?
I didn't watch Kill Bill.
But on some, my mom's,
like when I would act ruckus when I was eight,
my mom would be like, whoa.
And that meant dad's gonna come home,
take that belt and smack your ass.
So my mom-
How many of your five memories
are you getting your ass beat?
Zero.
Because ironically, then I got to know my dad,
it was my mom that was more willing to beat ass
than my dad.
But I didn't know my dad,
and my mom's a fucking marketing genius,
and she created my dad out to be fucking the worst.
Like he's gonna kill you.
So I was scared to do anything wrong.
Did you ever hear those slaps
like when everybody was asleep though?
Oh my God.
Oh my God. Oh my God.
I'm talking a lot.
He's looking for his moments.
I'm just kidding.
Ah, my man.
Anyway, final thought on that.
Like, you know,
my dad fucking changed my career.
I believe that
what some of the people
that have a lot of pain
want me to be
when they judge me on social
is actually something I could have been
had I not had a phenomenal father
who completely from 14 to 16
sucked everything out of me that was bullshit
and taught me that.
My dad teaching me word is bond changed my life.
I had too much gift of gab, too much charisma,
too much ability to communicate
that I could have been off the reservation
doing the cliche wrong shit for my personality type.
I just got super fortunate that I had a father
that is visceral, visceral to lying, hates embellishment.
Embellishment's like good, it's like a little sauce.
Nope, not for dad.
And it really changed the course of my life.
And again, all of these things we just talked about
is why I just kind of roll life neutral.
I'm so, I have so much self esteem that my mom put in me
that I don't give a fuck what any of you think,
and that's real, comma, I can't hear anything
because I'm just doing everything and anything good,
so everything bad that comes to me, I'm like fuck you, fuck you. so everything bad that comes to me I'm like fuck you fuck you and everything good that comes to me all the clapping I'm like
that's my parents so I'm just in the middle like a neutral state before you go I want to ask one
immigrant question okay go I love I've seen some of your videos on being an immigrant how fortunate
that is I love it now you said something about how every generation after you is softer.
Yes.
I feel like I see that with my people.
You probably see that.
Well, Russians are probably so hard as fuck.
But how do you curb that?
Is there a solution?
Because my kids, I do worry, are going to be soft little baby shits.
Couple things.
One, you can't fake environment.
This is a very big thing for all the parents that are struggling with this.
You can't send your kids to Africa for a week to build schools and think when they come back and are flying private planes
and live on the upper east side and go to private schools and live in the hamptons that they're
going to get perspective you can't fake environment i believe what i've learned and in as i had kids
and then i was like wait a minute this is going to happen for me i kind of locked in and looked
around on the people I knew best.
I'm like, why are they completely fucked up
and why are they so solid
even though they came up with so much?
I think the biggest thing that I believe helps,
they're gonna be softer, but that's okay.
Are they capable of being kind and appreciative?
Are they entitled and think they're special
because of your money?
Or are they empathetic, kind, and aware
and navigate their life on that?
And do they have their own self-esteem around them?
Because a lot of people struggle with,
like look, if one of my kids, two kids are an entrepreneur,
they're gonna get murdered by society.
They're going to be like, your dad did that.
And that sucks.
Like, I think it's a much bigger advantage
to build your own thing than to be in a position,
like everyone's like, oh, they're so lucky.
What?
But that's your ego.
A hundred percent.
Because they could have said that about you with your dad
and then you blew that shit out the water
so they could blow you out the water. A hundred percent. They could actually buy the Jets. Look, everybody, they could have said that about you with your dad and then you blew that shit out the water so they could blow you out the water.
100%.
They could actually buy the Jets.
Look, everybody, they could.
They could if they have self-esteem.
Because if you don't have self-esteem, to your point,
then that judgment destroys you.
Well, that's on you and your wife.
100%.
You gotta build.
But guess what?
Lots of parents through the years
have had huge, had huge good ambitions to their kids
and DNA's a motherfucker.
DNA's a motherfucker.
DNA's a motherfucker.
You can't control everything.
DNA's a fucking, and circumstance.
You might get one, you know, environment matters.
Every one of us right here would be stunned
how much a single best friend in third, fourth, fifth,
sixth grade meant something.
100%.
Or you meant something. And it's just cool like that. Yeah, yeah. fifth, sixth grade, meant something. 100%. Or you meant something. Yeah.
And it's just cool like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, final question because I know you've got to get out of here.
In a way, your currency is your ability to predict these trends. As you get more successful,
do you feel an increased pressure to be right
in the same way a Warren Buffett needs to be right every time?
He's moving so much money.
You're giving influence to so many other influential, successful people.
Being wrong in a big way could hurt maybe your relationship with them.
One, do you feel that stress?
And two, how do you cope with that stress?
Really? One, do you feel that stress? And two, how do you cope with that stress?
Really?
I just want to recall the clip where I said this show was funny and entertaining, grounded in intellect.
That was an incredibly insightful question.
Couple things.
One, I feel no stress about it.
But let me tell you why.
I know, I don't think, I know that I'm not in the predicting business.
Meaning, I've never predicted anything.
What I am is probably,
this is why I think I've always loved comedians.
I would argue that an overlap that you and I have
is social observing.
We have to for our material.
Right?
Yeah, yeah.
What I do for a living is I'm a human anthropologist
watching people move
and then using my talents to synthesize thoughts.
But what I do with my predicting in business,
which is really where I do it,
everything had already happened.
NFT, I looked at CryptoKitties in 2017.
Nothing I ever talk about is Nostradamus,
is predicting.
All of it is fastest observation to truth
and willing to bet the farm,
thus being loud on it.
Once I have my conviction, I'm there.
As a matter of fact, this is a very weird thing.
I hope we can clip this.
There was a boxer named Julian Jackson
in the 80s.
I loved him.
He was a fucking terror.
He had like a Patrick Ewing flat top
and this motherfucker,
if he punched people,
knocked them out so heavy,
it was crazy.
Like more than Tyson.
I'm telling you,
please go to YouTube,
Google Julian Jackson.
Look at this fucker.
Look at this dude. Look at this dude.
Look at this dude.
Look at that 46 and one with 43 knockouts.
Scroll down just a little bit.
Look at that.
46 and one, 43 knockouts.
This guy in a post game once, in a post game.
You got to watch him.
They're crazy.
They're not normal knockouts for boxing.
After one fight, he said something.
I'll never forget it.
I must have been like 12 or 13.
He goes, and I think he's Jamaican
if I'm remembering right.
So he has a nice solid little accent.
And he goes, the announcer's like,
how'd you do that?
And he goes, you don't understand.
He goes, when my hand connects with a man's jaw
and I get this feeling in my elbow,
no man can ever get up.
Yeah, it was some gangster shit.
30 years later, I'm affected by that.
If I do my human anthropology work
and I have my Eureka moment,
Musical.ly's gonna be big, it's next, AKA TikTok.
Uber is gonna work.
Look what just happened in New York.
I can't believe it's working here.
NFTs.
Gunna.
You.
If I do my work and I feel that click,
I will never be wrong
because I haven't for 35 years.
I sold all my baseball cards
because I was at a baseball card show in 1993.
Normal my life, doing 15, 20 of them a year.
I'm sitting there.
The doors open at this high bridge fire station.
Three people walk in.
I listen to one conversation
and I turn to my best friend Brandon
and say I'm selling all my baseball cards
and sold the whole collection
and six months later the whole market collapsed.
What was the combo?
It was just two guys.
The way they were talking,
the passion was gone.
It was over.
And then I put all my money into toys
which ended up being right.
I bought all these Star Wars
from the 70s
and all these Transformers
and I ended up being so right.
eBay came out two years later
the whole thing popped off.
Comic Con culture took over.
I was so right. It's what I'm good later, the whole thing popped off. Comic Con culture took over. I was so right.
It's what I'm good at.
Kobe's good at what he was great at.
Beyonce's good at what she's good at.
I'm going to be one of the greatest entrepreneurs
of all time, not because I'm saying it,
because fucking my parents had sex without a condom
in Belarus in 1975 at the exact right second
and then a lot of other shit happened along the way,
and just here I am, and guess what?
Who gives a fuck?
I'm gonna die, have 24 hours of trending
on whatever the fuck Twitter is of the day,
and then everybody's gonna go on
with their normal fucking life.
So I don't think I'm great because of it.
Who gives a shit?
But it is what it is, and so I feel no pressure
because I'm great at what I do.
I felt more pressure coming up
because it was how I got here.
I needed all those.
I didn't have a Harvard degree.
I was a street kid.
I was a liquor.
I needed all those to get to this moment.
Now it's easy,
but I value my legacy so much
that I will never compromise it for any bag.
If fucking some Saudi plus Russian
plus China transformer comes to me,
the three fucking wealthiest people
from that company,
and they fucking in front of me
turn into a fucking Power Ranger
and they're like,
we'll give you 73 trillion in cash
if you just tell everybody
that oxygen should be bought
like water was.
We saw the Schultz thing
and you should do that.
I'd be like, fuck you, transformer,
and leave because if I don't believe it,, fuck you, Transformer, and leave.
Because if I don't believe it, the fuck?
I had enough money when I made 100,000 a year.
This isn't about the money anymore.
This is about getting into the fucking
Entrepreneurial Hall of Fame.
That means your word, your legacy,
your actions, your execution.
That's what I'm on.
Amen.
Fire.
Gary Vee, ladies and gentlemen. Tell them where they can find you even though they
already know they know all right thank you so much for coming brother i appreciate you appreciate it
peace