Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Heleneesha Of Troy (Ft. Barstool's Kevin Clancy)

Episode Date: April 9, 2019

Andrew, Akaash, Kaz, and special guest, Barstool’s Kevin Clancy, discuss answering the internet, Andrew’s audience members having seizures, Dennis Rodman getting intimate with a family member, Reincarnation, and more. INDULGE!!!

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I'm going back on tour. I mean, I've already been on tour. But the official new tour is going to start June 8th. Andrew Schultz, the Matador Tour, presented by Monster Energy Drinks and Outbreak. Oh, shit. Yeah, we got sponsorship, baby. Oh, shit. We got sponsorship. We taking it to the next level. Yeah, we got sponsorship, baby. Oh, shit. We got sponsorship.

We take it to the next level. Yeah, so I put those up, those dates up. We got 10 dates that are being sponsored by Monster. I want to tell you guys those dates right now. We are starting at Cobb's Comedy Club, San Francisco. Then we're going to Cincinnati, technically Liberty Township, June 21st and 22nd. Then we're going to Denver, the 27th through the 29th.

Then we're going to Houston, Texas, the 30th. Then we're going to Toronto, July 13th. Then we got Washington, D.C., August 15th through 18th. Then we got Chicago, Illinois, the 23rd of August. Then we got November, Boston, Massachusetts, the Wilbur. And then we got November 22nd, New York City, Town Hall. Big time. Wow. Yeah, big time. Town Hall is kind of crazy. The Wilbur Theater is crazy. Chicago's Dahlia Hall. These are theaters. Toronto's's a theater that danforth i mean this

is there's some big venues we're doing man and um right now i probably shouldn't tell you this shit but fuck it uh technically the tickets go on sale this coming friday okay but i already have the links live so so for 45 asshole army you get your first chance to get those tickets so make sure you get those to get them early man I'm telling you get them right now cuz they're gonna sell out so get these shows get them right now you have three days on everybody else who's gonna start buying April 12th at 10 in the morning but the ticket links are live I'm not supposed to say they're alive but to you you guys, because you're family, I say that they're live.

So you go get on it now, theandrewschultz.com for tickets. And, yeah, thank you so much, man. I'm really excited about the new tour. It's dope, man. So we're putting together that material right now. And for all the gigs you see on my website that are leading up to it, I mean, I'm still coming out to Cleveland this Saturday. Then we got the Moon Tower Comedy Festival, April 25th through 27th.

Then I'm going to be in Texas, Dallas, the 3rd and 4th, then Nashville, May 18th, then Columbus, Ohio, 24th, 25th, and then St. Louis, the 31st, and then Ann Arbor, Michigan, the 7th. So those are all the shows that I'm gearing up for this next tour. So come see this material develop. Come out, say what's up. And I can't wait to see y'all. But yeah, let's start the show. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry.

My bad. I'm glad I said this shit at the end too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys will realize at the end of this podcast why I just started the show. But now go. No, because I didn't say where April 18th In Houston, Texas The Secret Group

Come through I'm headlining It's gonna be me My homie Donish My bull's featuring for me It's gonna be a dope show One night April 18th

The tickets are live On my website AkashSingh.com Also April 26th 27th Caroline's Comedy Club In New York We're doing two shows

Me and the ABDC guys will come through. It's going to be dope. Amazing. And we're going to get you to come through one time. If you were at the Houston show that Akash and I did last time, that's the same place. Same venue. So it's a great venue. Really cool place.

They really support comedy down there. Fucking love it. So go make sure you check those out. Go get those tickets early. Get them early. Let them know. Akash is the truth. Yeah. And yeah, okay. Akash is the truth. Yeah.

And yeah, okay, let's start the show. I got my man, Kevin. Kevin from Barstool. I don't even know your last fucking name, man. I know you as Kevin Clancy. Yes, that's the initials, KFC. Kevin Francis Clancy. Kevin Francis Clancy.

As soon as Alex walked in, he was like, does that have to do with chicken? Yeah, I know, right? I need to work on my branding here because there's enough people who are like, is this about the fucking chicken? Right. Okay, so we got Kevin in here. Kevin Francis Clancy from Barstool. You know him from KFC Radio. I recently did his podcast with Feidelberg Fights.

We're going to get fights on here as well. I just wanted to divide you guys up. Yep. And I had an amazing time. Now, some of you guys might know the new internet phenomenon called Answer the Internet. Okay? This is the brainchild of Kevin and Fights. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, we've been doing the podcast for like seven years now. Okay. And basically episode one, the caller set the tone that we were just going to do like ridiculous hypothetical questions. Love. So we do them every week. And we said, fuck it. We put together like a whole catalog. What's your favorite one?

There was an early one that was you get $10,000 for every second. Well, they're ridiculous, but the most ridiculous one is you put your baby in a microwave for one second. You put $10,000 per second. We're sitting there like, one second doesn't do shit in the microwave, man. Also, $10,000 is not that much. I'm not going to lie. 10 seconds at least. We did it like seven years ago.

So here's the question. And my buddy, the one guy on the show said, well, how many seconds can I do? That's the real question. So, you know, shit like that. Okay, so it's $10,000 a second. I feel like the center of the baby is still cold

for at least 10 seconds. You're going to have a cold center of the baby is still cold for at least 10 seconds. You're going to have a cold center of the baby. You've got to flip it upside down and put them evenly. You've got to put a little fucking paper towel on top of them and shit like that. Now, okay, if it was about my cat, without a doubt, 20 minutes. I hate that fucking cat. Leave that shit on. How high can a microwave go?

My brother has done that. I mean, I'm probably going to have PETA come up, but I've walked into my apartment and seen my brother hoisting the cat over the oven and into the microwave, and I was like, what are you doing? He's like, I was taking him down. Don't worry about it. I was taking him down. I go, from what?

He jumped in the microwave? He's like, it doesn't matter. That's stuck. Okay, so there's this show. You guys got to go check it out right now. I did an episode. Chrissy D did an episode. Theo Vaughn did an episode.

I mean, there's some hilarious episodes out there. There's a show called Brennan Chubb, and it's just 10 minutes about of the most absurd questions on the internet, and you have comedians answering them, and I think it's fucking hilarious. It's been very good, man. Some of the questions are like age-old. I saw the one you put on your ID. Right, right, right. Some of these are born from the internet and you have comedians answering them and I think it's fucking hilarious. It's been very good, man. Some of the questions are like age olds. I saw the one you put on your ID. Right, right. Some of these are born

from the internet. Some of them come from our callers. Some of them you've heard before. Give a good one. Okay. I mean, baby in a microwave, I could go on that. Okay, but that's a little crazy, right?

There's other ones that are kind of reasonable. Okay, this was my favorite. I think- Yeah, you tell me because they're all like the fucking same thing. Okay, so what would you-

Okay, your mom and your girlfriend switch bodies right okay but they keep the same brain okay stop wait yeah they're fucked stop mom and girlfriend switch bodies but they keep the same brain okay you gotta fuck one of them so they come back i was going duh i mean yeah you're saying like what do you think it was gonna do massage that i reacted you were like well can back. I knew where I was going. Duh. I mean, yeah, you were saying, like, let me finish. What do you think it was gonna do? Massage that back? Well, I reacted, and you were like, well, can I finish? You know where it's going? You gotta build it, okay?

So you're fucking your mom's body with your girlfriend's brain? Or your girl's body with your mom's brain, okay? See, everyone does this. I think it's a no-fucking-brainer. Didn't I say that to you? No-brainer. I think you're sick. I think there's a right answer and a wrong answer.

I'm fucking the shit out of my mom's body with my girl's brain. Yes. Because not even... There's no way I'm fucking my mom's you. No brainer. Easily. I think there's a right answer and a wrong answer. I'm fucking the shit out of my mom's body with my girl's brain because there's no way I'm fucking my mom's consciousness. That's nuts. She stays alive. Yes.

They go back afterwards. Not if you do it right. R.I.P. Mama. Okay, go. What would you do? I don't know, fam. That's your mom's body. They go like Thanksgiving next year. Okay, go. What would you do? I don't know, fam. That's your mom's body. Go to Thanksgiving next year.

Like, hey, remember that time you fucked me? Every time you look at your mom, though, you would know you've seen everything in every way. See, it depends on if you're selfish or if you're a bad son or not. Bro, you're just going back to where you started. Yo, think about it. You just closed your eyes. In a very honest, very honest way. You've Been there before

Before okay now you're running it back. Yeah, this is just part of your body This is the part like a useless party about variables. We could put And you don't have to like go down on her first to warm her up. It's just straight. It's just straight. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait. So Kaz, hold on. So Kaz's solution. Did you come yet? Yo, Kaz.

Are you about to come? That's another one we did. Would you rather have a good handjob from your grandma or a bad handjob from your grandma? Kaz's solution was to rape his mom. I need that to be known. Can I just copy her? I can't just date rape her. She won't even know.

Great question. Would you just date rape her life. She won't even know. Great question. Would you rather date rape my mom than have consensual sex? Thank you. Thank you. I would rather

rape my mom. I would rather rape my mom. I want her Cosby down, drooling. Let's get this shit over with.

She'll wake up two days later and be like, what happened? I'm like, I don't know. Don't worry about it. Imagine your mom's

giving you no reaction and you're just like, really, mom? Dude, dad must be packing. Okay, which one? Cause. That's what I said. I would hit my mom with the, well, my girlfriend with my mom's body. I mean, my girlfriend with my mom's brain. Yeah.

With a little Cosby pill. Wait, girlfriend, mom's, Oh, so she doesn't remember Gotta do it Here's the thing man you're saying Only Alex got the head phone. What? What? Take me a second. Take me a second. Okay, all right. What? Okay. Nah, there's no way. There's no way I'm fucking my mom's body.

Yo, here's the thing. You fucking your mom's body, that's tough on you. Yeah. But it's not ruining your mom, too. I love my mom. Exactly. You're being selfish because your mom has to live with the memory. What you got to do is just hoist your mom's legs over your shoulders and pound that thing

out with your girl's brain. Just have your girl talk to you and shit. Although it's your mom's voice. It's your mom's voice. Give me your mom's voice. Everybody be and pound that thing out with your girl's brain. Just have your girl talk to you and shit. Although it's your mom's voice. Everybody be quiet. You close your eyes. You get it done, and then that's it. I got to finish? Yeah.

It's hard. Wherever she chooses. And you know what's crazy? It's your girl's brain, so she's enjoying it. You're not going to hear her moaning. She's going to be really into it, dude. Whose voice are you hearing? The body.

Yeah, whatever your vocal cord. Everything's the same, just the brain and consciousness. See, but my mom hasn't been laid in a while. Oh, my God. Wait, wait. So you want her to mentally be satisfied or physically be satisfied? Mentally. So you go girlfriend's body. Wow, bro. Sick pup. Yeah, that's wild, man. So you want her to mentally be satisfied or physically be satisfied? Mentally. So you go girlfriend's body.

Wow, bro. Sick pup. Yeah, that's wild, man. You Puerto Ricans. Okay, so again, this is 10 minutes of these. What was another one that I really liked? Do you want to do the most fucked up one? Go, go, go.

I didn't even do it with you. All right, good. This one's real fucked up. All right, good. All right. You got on one side of you is your dad and the other side of you is your mom. All right good. All right One side of you is your dad the other side of you is your mom. All right, your dad is One inch inside you and you are one inch inside your mom. Which way do you move to get out?

You know or get in you know, depending on how you're thinking though not even a question my dad is You've beenna get all this, pops! I'm gonna take a deep breath and just move back with a deep breath. You and your dad could talk through shit. That was weird. Remember that? That was weird. You can't go into... Remember when I used to wipe your ass?

This was just like that. Yeah, that's one we haven't even fucked with on the actual show. Okay, yeah, that's an intense one. Okay, which one would you do? That's an easy one for me. Then you just back up. Back that thing up. I think I'm going back to my dad, bro.

Yeah, it's no question. It's no question, fam. There's no way I'm conscious. There's something about just fucking your mom that doesn't fucking compute with me. Yeah, but wait, to be clear, you chose to fuck your mom in the last one, and now you're't fucking compute with me. Yeah, but wait. To be clear, you chose to fuck your mom in the last one, and now you're getting fucked by your dad. I didn't answer. I haven't answered in the last one.

I do not know. Because if you're willing to get fucked by your dad to not fuck your mom, then in the last one, you should not pick your mom again. You know what I mean? But you guys just did exactly what you're saying I'm doing, which is weird. But first of all, you wanted to fuck your mom in the last one, and then- No, we didn't want to fuck her mom. We wanted not to fuck her mom's brain. You were really excited about fuck your mom.

We were caring about our mom. So you guys are making a very compelling choice for mom. But then when I asked whose voice do you hear and you're hearing your mom's voice. Yeah. That's tough. That's fucking haunting. She doesn't have to talk. Like.

Tape it up. What do you think she's going to say? Go full time, dude. Yeah, it's your girl. Whose mom doesn't talk? It's not your mom. It's your girl. Bro, it's my dick. Whose girl doesn't talk? She's going to talk. Who's mom doesn't talk? It's not your mom. It's your girl. Bro, it's my dick.

Who's girl doesn't talk? She's going to talk. She's going to talk. Noises will happen. Okay, let me think if there's one more. We don't have to be on this the whole time. All I'm saying is this is a big plug for me because I think it's such a great idea for the show. They're not all completely fucked up.

Yeah, but the good ones, in my opinion. Yeah, basically. The real fucked ones. Okay, there was one more. Oh, fuck. What was it? I think we were texting about it. I don't think we even did,

but somebody offered it up. Remember? I was like, dude, I just heard the craziest one. Shit, I don't even know. I mean, again, these all fucking blend right into my head. Okay, one more that was wild.

The good hand job from your grandma or bad hand job from your grandma will put you in a pickle, too. Okay, what is that one? Would you rather have a good hand job from your grandma or a bad hand job from your grandma? That's, you know, like, you want grandma, like, grinding away on it. Would you rather at least be like, well, hey, grandma, we gotta be here, so I might as well get mine done.

Hold up, let me ask this. What's the difference in time? Is it good? You probably, that's much quicker. That's pretty quick. Yeah. Because initially I want to say bad. But then you also, you know, again, to use the Thanksgiving example, you show up like, Grandma's got those hands.

Like, Grandma can work that dick. Like, Grandma was at a rubbing dog or something. You know what I mean? I think I'm going bad. But you're right. If it's one minute good, 15 minutes bad, then what? Damn, bro. That's one wrinkle I never thought of.

Wrinkle. I'll take one minute good. One minute good, no question. I just want it to last as short as possible. If all things are equal, time is equal bad. But if it's Matt Quick with the good, give me the good. So you guys are going to nut on your grandmother's hands? Yeah, that's what's up, bro.

No, I'm not going to try to do that, but it's probably going to bubble out. Yeah, but if it's good, it's going to happen. Yeah, she can't help it. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? She's kind of like... She just skilled at that.

Yeah, dude. She probably are, too, like back in the day. I was like, what you can do for a little bit. Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. Yeah, I've like, well, you can do for a little bit, right? Yeah, exactly. Oh, God. Yeah, I've never met my grandma, so this makes it way easier. No, you're just like, yeah, fuck her, too, whatever.

Why did I stop at a handjob? I've never even met her. You want to blow me, too? Real technically, she's just some lady. Do you know what I mean? Like, this would be very easy. I mean, you know, they're all dead, but they're alive. Yeah, I'd let her jerk me off and come just pool up on her hand right here, you know? That's where we crossed the line.

That's it. That's the line. The devil's in the details. I agree with that. The devil's in the details. As soon as I saw that visual, I was like, yeah. You know exactly where it is, right there. It looks like a geyser, bro.

It's old faithful. Jesus Christ. Yes, this is what I do for a living. All the time, it's old faithful. Jesus Christ. Yes, this is what I do for a living. All the time, all day, every day. Bro, I had so much fun on your podcast, Kev. Yeah, it was good. That was a good one. People were happy with it, too.

It was a big episode, big episode of the YouTube, too. So thanks for coming through, man. Well, I'm glad to have you here on The Flagrancy, man. Yeah, dude. We've had a pretty cool week so basically um we were in orlando and this chick had a seizure during my show no yeah and um alex obviously comes to all my gigs with me we film everything well done alex yeah thank you sprung into action now we spoke about this on the last we spoke about this on the last podcast.

No, two podcasts ago? Or last? Last Monday. Last podcast. And we were telling you guys about what happened. Maybe we didn't do it justice, but we cut up a little clip of it. There's a clip on YouTube. It's about 10 minutes. And then we put an Instagram clip up.

And it's about three minutes or something like that. But they just went viral, man. It's kind of crazy to see what's going on right now. And most people having fun. Man, you should have more seizures at your show, man. Get those numbers up. These moments, you know what I mean? So most people are having fun,

but the epilepsy community, which I didn't even know existed, they are really seizing this opportunity. Got them, got them. Trying to shake me down. For what? Just because you're like this. It's only making you bigger if they get offended.

I don't know if they realize that. You know what I've realized is that their intention is just, I think, I think the intention with all these folks is just to have something to speak about. It's like you have a Twitter account. You're going to need to tweet something. But wait, so you saved her? Are you cracking jokes about her? Why are they talking about her?

Yeah. I was roasting her a little bit. Not even really roasting her as much as like at first there was concern. Just trying to mix things up. And then we were just like we made sure she was okay. The paramedics were there. I was making fun of paramedics. I was basically making fun of everybody else in the situation okay yeah and um he did

comment on the you know she hit that i had thought had a very good point about that walker shimmy yeah my point about the shake was you don't expect somebody to die right so when you see somebody like shaken most people probably looked at her and they were like whoa she's really enjoying the show like this girl thinks everything's so funny your automatic assumption is not oh she's fucking dying she's passing out right exactly so that's why no one helped like she fell out of the chair and even then people like yo this bitch is right so so and these are the things we were kind of talking about space on stage but here's the most interesting thing about i found is it the epilepsy foundation's pissed off right the the daily mail in the uk did some article about it etc um and by the way fake news is so real because these people do no

research whatever whatsoever yeah they said that the show was in new orleans new orleans that's number one okay and then within the article they mention that the show is in Orlando. So it's like if you could get that wrong in your own article, there's just no whatever. But the point is that all these people in the foundations

were upset. All these people who actually have epilepsy are hitting me up like, yo, I got that shit that was hilarious and they're saying shit like this they're like hey you know when you have a seizure you're actually embarrassed so the fact that like you're taking attention off of the whole room just staring at her now that was not my intention i'm not gonna go out here with the cape like oh that's what i was trying to do but i had all these people who actually have epilepsy reaching out going that was funny this that the other and i felt like it was a

perfect example of like what's happening if you watch the clip there's a perfect example of like what's happening right now at least in america right it's there's a girl in the front row that tells me to stop doing jokes about it because it's not funny right and we have an interaction and then she eventually says, I'm like, well, okay, maybe you don't have the final, she's like, yeah, I know, because I'm a paramedic, or something like that, and I'm like, well, why the fuck aren't you helping?

Yeah, go to work. Right, exactly, so, and that was America right now, in like one microcosm, right? It's this girl didn't care enough. To do anything. Yeah, but care enough to complain. She cared enough to say something. Yeah, and that is

outrage culture in a heartbeat. It's all these people tweeting, writing their little articles and blogs, but when it comes to actually helping these communities,

they're offended on behalf? They won't look the finger. They won't even get out their seat. Comics perspective, a few things. Number one, I've never had anybody have a fucking seizure to show,

but crazy things do happen at shows sometimes, and it's so great that Alex is there and knows you and knows how sociopathic well enough to know like i'm gonna make this a thing yeah two the brilliance of what you did i think you do have to address it you can't not and you have to make jokes because the whole room is thinking about addressing the elephant in the room it's exactly what it is something just happened there was a one person stampede if you

will yeah and you have to make jokes about it and make light of it otherwise it's all anybody's gonna think about i thought the brilliant thing that andrew did was when the girl complained saying you made this about you and then doubling down with you're such a white woman because a guilty white bitch like that lost right there you cut her legs out from under right when you brought her race into it now it's pointing out and you're right that is to, why I don't like liberal white women. But now, what can she say back? Can she keep complaining?

Because she's just doing exactly what you said she's doing. And I thought that was such a fucking... It's because she fake wiped tears. Oh, that's where you got it, yeah. She was upset that I was kind of making fun of her. And then at one point, she was just like this, and she went like that and like that, but with one finger, like a cartoon. Yeah. Like nobody really wipes tears like that,

right? But like that, like that. And I was just so infuriated. I was like, you made this about you. Yo, that was so good.

You don't know if this bitch is dead or not. I damn near stood up. And you're the victim? Holding my phone, I damn near stood up and fist pumped. I was like, that's so fucking, as a,

as a, as a comic, as a dude who just hates white women, I just thought that's so fucking perfect that's so fucking perfect yo I ran into one today you would have died I was walking to work I was coming from Grand Central I walked by the Empire State Building and there is this bird

that I later was told it was a woodcock I don't fucking know what a woodcock is doing it was injured and this chick no doubt a liberal white woman. She had the liberal white woman haircut. You know, the short bob.

She calls the police over for this fucking bird. And as I'm walking by, there's an NYPD cop on the phone and he's like, yeah, hey, I got a, got an injured bird here. And he turns to her,

he's like, why don't you just put it in a shoebox and go to the hospital with it? Go to the hospital with it. And she's squatting down, and I couldn't tell I filmed this shit real quick But I didn't see how cool she kind of did a white too I swear she was crying about the fucking bird. I would have killed her on the spot And she was like I'm not from around here I don't know what to do and this poor fucking cop I just I thought he was gonna kill her on the spot

But once you see that haircut and once you know he's causing a scene And I realize it's for a fucking injured bird in the middle of manhattan god this is like jesus you guys are the worst that haircut it's a soft abdomen they all have a nice soft abdomen it's all they're all built for trump baby oh if you're in good shape you're not you're not voting for a female president i'm sorry i've never seen one of them that is in good shape. I can vote for no bitch. I can beat up. Hold on.

Let me think. Wait, you're not voting for a girl you can beat up? The female, this in shape female is like, I can beat up my president. That's embarrassing. I was about to say like, who's saying that? You can just say you're not voting for women. That's totally all right. You can just say you're not voting for women.

That's totally all right. But yeah, dude, there's a fucking, there's an absolute look. And it really just comes down to boredom. They're bored. Like, their lives are so good. Too easy. They're so busy. Yeah, just too easy. You got to find something to be 100% about.

They're looking for shit to be offended by. They're just looking for problems. And that's how our brains are wired. It's not even their fault. It's like we're just looking for problems and that's how our brains are wired it's not even their fault it's like we're just looking for problems we're trying to create situations and um my only issue with it is they act like it's not easy right like if they were like listen guys our lives are really easy over here so we got to take care of you know animals in the environment we just got what am i gonna do just live this easy life? You know what I mean? Instead they're crying like their life is so hard.

And men are holding them down. It's like, bitch. Sometimes. Whatever. At times. Honestly. If it's your mom's body with your girl's brain in it, you know what I mean? You guys just hold it down and pop away.

I blame white women for everything. I blame white women for slavery. I blame. Listen, I guarantee you a white bitch is like like let's get this house this big ass field and then eventually she's like we're not doing anything with this field guarding something and my man was like all right i can't i just i'll figure this out just get a couple black people i'm pretty sure that's how slavery started white women start everything helena t Troy, that bitch started a war.

They're the ones behind everything. Was she white, Helen or Troy? Had to be. Ain't nobody going to war over no black bitch. We're barely even trying to save these R. Kelly hoes. Yo! Oh, gosh, this is violent. Name the black bitch you went to war for. Name the one. Kaz, why are you upset you got a black WWE champion?

I'm not upset. What you want, bro? I'm not upset. I'm just like, yo, you might want to. I'm looking out for you, bro. I am God. I would do it. I would enlist.

You can't just say how much you hate white women and hate black women at the same time. I don't hate black women. I'm just pointing out there's no historical precedent for people going to war over a black woman. Michelle held up a sign like, bring our girls back. We ain't sending no fucking troops over there, but bring them back, though. Yo, son, if they kidnap... I'm on fire! Real talk, though. If they kidnapped 30 Swedish women, you don't think we would have busted down Sweden and been like,

Hey, give back our girls. I would let the white hoes just stay. I don't give a fuck. Y'all are gone. It's a better place. I never thought about that. That's America. That's not me.

I'm like, yeah, you're kind of right. Don't be mad at me. me. That's why I'm not even saying nothing. I'm like, yeah, you're kind of right. Don't be mad at me. Be mad at America. No, I'm not mad at you. I'm just like, no. I'm not talking to... I'm talking to... The eventual...

The real we. No, that's it. Yo, Akash, we're going to take... I'm just like, nah, yeah, he's kind of right. We're going to take your horrendous statement, and we're going to spin it in a very positive light. This is so true. If there were... If there were...

Real talk. Let's think. It's not that horrendous to me. If there were, if there were, real talk, let's think. It's really not that horrendous to me. No, no. Meaning the perception. It's the true ass statement. It's the truth. What's horrendous is that it's true.

That's what I meant though. That's the horrendous part. Can I save you just before any backlash? Okay. I guess what our conscience is saying, he's not saying we shouldn't. He's saying that's the way the world operates. And it's a great point

because i'm thinking right now if there were like 30 dude this is really what i meant though 50 italian girls right 50 italian girls kidnapped right right and with little you saw pictures they're little flowing hair and they're like you know baskets of fucking cucumbers and tomatoes are gonna make shit you do think that we would have just held up a poster? No chance, bruh. Oh, people just don't give a fuck about Black Women, period. Yo, you know what?

Faker Su is going to start doing. It's facts. This is something you need to bring up at Essence Fest this year. No, Bill Cosby's in jail right now. You need to really make this a point. Yo, this year at Essence Fest, when I host Essence Fest,

it's going to be Bring it up, man. all about black female empowerment. For real. That's what I'm going to do. But not just for them. For us. We got to care more.

Yo, real talk. I might start watching WNBA. No. You got to draw the line somewhere. You got to draw the line somewhere. You got to draw the line somewhere. You got to draw the line somewhere. You got to draw the line somewhere.

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You got to draw the line somewhere. You got to draw in Africa before I start watching WNBA. And some, here's a hypothetical, would you rather go to the Sudan or wherever the fuck they kidnap those girls, whatever, and then risk your life saving those girls. We don't even know where the fuck they are. It's like shit. Point proven. We had a week long Document of R. Kelly Fucking black women up And nobody

Nobody R. Kelly's out right now He's just promoting an event He's gonna be in Indianapolis at a club They put all the white women That Bill Cosby touched On the fucking magazine cover

And they locked his ass up In quick fast And in a fucking hurry Yup The one time They didn't get OJ the first time They made sure they locked his ass The fucking second time

Trumped up charges Fuck that shit. You're right. That's crazy. You're right. It's facts. That's crazy. It's a Patrice bit, too.

There's a Patrice bit of you can tell how pretty a white woman is by how long they would look for her if she went missing, I think. Oh, I love that. And then he said, like, if a black person went missing in the ocean, they would just stick their toe in and be like, this kind of peering out. Like, no, it's not. It's over. That's all act out. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

My favorite Patrice act out. He gets there and he just pulls his pants up slightly he could take a walk into the water yes you're right damn bro all right so flagrant too what are we gonna do how are we gonna care about black women on this listen because that's what we if you can get us 10 minutes at essence fest i know you got a lot of power over there. I would love to make a speech, donation maybe. You know what I mean? Just see what you could do. You know what?

Hey, black women that listen to the podcast, I know we got a lot of y'all. We got your back. You know what I mean? We're not going to let these other motherfuckers forget about you. We got your back. 100%, dog. Real talk. If any of y'all go missing in a tri-state area, we're not going to go all over Africa,

but if any of you go missing in a tri-state area, we're not going to go all over Africa. But if any of you go missing in a tri-state area, we're coming for you. I'll go to it. Like the Avengers. We're going to mount up here. Son, let's go. I'll go anywhere in the Northeast. Motherfucking Boston. Why you got to outdo me, son?

I was trying to put a fucking limit on how far we're going to go. I'm saying we can at least give them the Northeast. I'm not going to Georgia. You're going to Maine? Maine's in Canada, bro. Ain't no black people in Maine. I'm just willing to Amtrak. You're going to Amtrak to get these bitches.

Any reasonable Amtrak trip. I got you. I'm doing the Xcel. I'm doing the local. I'm not doing the regional, all right, bro? That shit takes forever. That shit is like it's a subway car, but it goes across states. We got to stop in Syracuse? Come across states We gotta stop in Syracuse?

Come on Can't stop in Syracuse There's no black people here Keep going Oh my god Yo we fighting for you We fighting for you black women bro Save our queens

We gotta save our queens You know Cause real talk No for real This the asshole army This the asshole army And all our assholes Really are black If you look at them, man.

What? It's true, man. The assholes are dark, bro. You ever look at an asshole? There's not a lot of white assholes out there. They have to bleach them. Pink. They bleach them pink, those porn stars.

God bless them. God bless them. There's one color of asshole out here, and we support you. Get over there, Alex. Get over there. Alex, how are you acting like you would save a black woman? You don't even bring one to your house, bro. That's how I save her.

Yo, you want to know why he does that? Because he knows that he could potentially be in a Kevin hypothetical. You don't want to interrupt. He would never put a black woman through that. He would never. I got you. It took a second.

It took a second. It took a second. Oh, my God, guys. What a fucking. I started believing in reincarnation this week. Yeah, yeah. This is beautiful. We had a...

I got a good theory about it, and this is a theory that Indians have known for 5,000 years, and we'll get to our conversation about it in a second, but I'm going to run it by you, Kevin. You tell me if I'm onto something. Okay. Okay. So I saw this picture in there of this, like,

old Montreal Habs hockey player that looks exactly like me. It's like uncanny how some of this guy looks to me, right? And it got me thinking about like past lives. Now, I don't think that that was me or anything like that. But it got me thinking about the idea of past lives, right? And then I started thinking about like why is it that some people just understand life and humanity better than other people? I don't think it's an IQ thing. I really think it's an experience thing.

Not an experience that you have in this life, but experience that you've had of many lives. You carry a little bit of that over every time? Yeah, exactly. You don't remember exactly, but you remember. It's just like in your blood, sort of? It is very similar to, like, you know, a dog knows not to touch fire. It's just instinct, right? So I think you keep on carrying instinct and I mean

there's you know there's a reason why like for whatever reason I just have this understanding of life and people and it gives me a competitive advantage in the world you know in what I do and work but just engaging in people there's just something I understand about humans and sometimes I'll try to explain it to people and they don't get it. And at first it used to frustrate me. I used to think like, am I not good at explaining? But now I start to realize, no, some people haven't lived enough.

You can't explain it. Exactly. Some people just get it. Right. And I look at a guy like Duval and I'm like, this guy gets it at the highest level. You know, it's like, holy shit. And I started thinking, you know, when we die, something i started thinking you know when we die something happens to our energy but we don't know we just don't know what happens to our energy right it goes

somewhere energy cannot be lost or created or destroyed yeah it goes somewhere we don't know where it goes and i truly am starting to believe that you could have a new suit you can have a new body a new life and you could continue doing this. And you basically continue to do it until you figure out the game that is life. And if there's this higher life form out here that's playing a game with us, right, and they're just waiting for us to figure it out, get closer to the center of the maze or whatever it is. And then once you figure it out, you get to move on or maybe the game is over. Maybe you finished it, right? And I started talking to Akash.

I was like, yo, maybe this is what Hindu. Maybe you finished it. And I started talking to Akash. I was like, maybe this is what Hindu people meant by reincarnation. It was their way of explaining it. They know for thousands of years, why is this guy so wise? Why does he understand us? You ever sit down with somebody and then we don't even have to be old, but

you just feel like they get it. And it's not because they read all these books or anything like that. Duval has had no formal education understands life way better than these harvard grads that i'll sit with yeah and i'm like oh shit maybe maybe you carry that on maybe that continues to happen and maybe that was their idea of reincarnation and then reaching nirvana the exact idea is you keep on dying and keep on reliving until you, I guess, truly learn how to live it the most. Right. And then you reach that level of nirvana, which is, I guess, your version of heaven.

So you've reached all that by deciding you were like a hockey player in your past. Some fucking dude playing hockey looked a little bit like you. Yeah, and I played hockey a little bit. So then I started thinking about this. I mean, uncanny. Make that face right now. Do that. It is really fucking crazy.

Pretty good. Pretty good. So I started thinking about. Same fucking ears and everything. Everything, bro. It's scary. And I used to have that haircut. So I started thinking about this.

I go, how would I. So that's just tethered Yeah How would I warn my future self Of this So that I could You can't pass a direct message But maybe you could get me thinking about it

Maybe you could Interstellar shit Right Exactly Drop a hint Drop a hint Like at least get my ball My mind rolling.

Fucking Canadian hockey player. That's how. That was a hint from the future. Future self. From the past. Could be like a thousand future selves. Oh, shit. Oh, we don't know.

We don't know how long this other life form that's just watching us play this game. I mean, when you look at video games, right? How does a video game operate? You play the game. You die. You get reincarnated. You play the game. You die. You get reincarnated. You run it back. You're a little bit better every single time.

We see it in front of us all the time. A couple people got the cheat code. They're like the Steve Jobs of the world, Leonardo da Vinci's of the world, unlocking shit. What is Game Genie? Remember Game Genie for Nintendo? It's like, okay, here are all the tricks to life. Okay, you got it. Everything's figured out.

Yeah, that's actually- all the tricks to life. Okay, you got it. Everything's figured out. Yeah, that's actually. Making a lot of sense. That's exactly Hindu belief, what he called me and explained. And I was like, I know I do the thing where I'm like, yeah, we've been doing this. But that was actually. And it was cool that he just kind of stumbled on that on his own. And it's also like weirdly reaffirming for my beliefs as a Hindu that somebody just organically stumbled on it. Right, right.

And like. They were onto something when they. Right, right. And like it... They were onto something when they came up with this idea. Yeah, and it could be thousands of lifetimes. It is until you get it right and from what I've read, getting it right is realizing

that all this doesn't matter. There is just the soul, God, and that's it. And everything else... Nothing comes to everything, man. They say all this is a mirage. All this like money and all this shit

that we think matters doesn't matter. It's all made up, yeah. And then when you have that, it's called moksha. It's like I'm free. I'm freedom, liberation. And that's when you're, it's called moksha. It's like, I'm free. I'm freedom. Liberation.

And that's when you're, that's when you've, either you go to heaven or your soul is just free and you're good. But that's, my understanding is that's when reincarnation is done.

So it was cool to hear him say that and just have this exact same, like, belief on his own. It's just, I think it's so, I think it's so interesting. I look a lot of times

at religion as like, people's best way of explaining the world to people who haven't, let's say, lived all the lives yet. And that is. Yeah, I was going to say, so you think just like ignorant ass people just haven't been reincarnated enough yet?

Yeah, they're new. They're just younger souls. They're younger souls. That's how it's explained to me. And then like. Yeah, go on. I feel like even being able to laugh about all this shit is kind of a sign that you've gone through a lot of life.

Fuck it. Right? Like the people who are getting upset, the people who are outraged don't have any understanding yet. They're not mature enough to know like when you have enough understanding like you said this doesn't matter this isn't that big of a deal let's laugh about a little bit like we're looking at ourselves as you know i'm 35 i don't know how old you are 34 right so it's like you're 35 35 in like a month 35 in a month 32 right so it's like we're judging

ourselves by our age within this life yeah and. And if there is a higher life form, they're looking down and it's like, you fucking idiots. Yeah, that's a blip on a blip on a blip on the radar. Right? It's like going, I'm 2.7 years old. It's like, this is so tiny. So let's say, hypothetically speaking,

we have this 100 lives or 1,000 lives and we spend all this energy and we're exhausted trying to explain things to people who truly can't understand them yet. It's like trying to explain things to people who truly can't understand them yet it's like trying to explain science to a baby literally right the baby just doesn't not gonna get it yeah but the baby can in the same way that i might look up to duval or someone might look up to me that they recognize that there's that people have an understanding of life in a direction and they're like i can get things and get closer to that understanding

within this time and it was a really cool moment like just imagine it's true and you get to run this shit back like how fucking dope is that yeah like instead of just going oh it's over i have to get everything done right it's more like let me figure out this life thing on the way and have some joy and then i'm gonna run it back. And maybe I won't remember everything from it, but I'm going to keep. Something. Or you're probably just dead in the dirt. Well, there's also that possibility. And you will.

Your body will be dead in the dirt. But I keep looking at, like, movies. Like, if you look at themes of all the movies that are coming out right now. What if it just feels like your eyes are just closed all the time? Wouldn't that be, like, the suckiest, like, afterlife? Oh, you're conscious, but you just can't see shit? You're still there, and it's just like everything's just fucking... That's the one thing I was like, yo, that's the only thing.

I don't care what you believe in, but I'm just like, yo, as long as it's not just fucking perpetual darkness for the rest of time. Then you're conscious of that actual torture. That's the story. But what if even that, right, is how awful that sounds to us right now? What if that's the best feeling in the world? We don't know it? Yeah, what if-

What if you tap into some extra shit once everything's fucking closed off forever and now you're in- You ever go underwater, right? You're swimming. You go underwater, right? And then underwater, that shit is peaceful, man. Everything's quiet. You're just there with you and your thoughts for that brief amount of time that you're

holding your breath but if that is the rest of existence you're just kind of like floating in you're floating in it and you get to create these elaborate you know worlds in your own brain yeah and then it just becomes a dream you just find a way to dream like have you ever gotten daydreaming like about like a fight you wish you had you know like I should punch that guy in the face always imagine you get to do that all day I do that shit in the shower all the time I do that shit in the shower all the time

I have never lost a fight in the shower I have a beard in the shower bro Every argument every bitch fight all of it A lot of guys in jail they wish they had your same record I hope man I hope that hope that's how it goes. Wouldn't it be cool? You know, it's also interesting to think about. This wasn't a Hindu belief as far as I know,

but a Hindu guy was talking to me. He was very spiritual, and he was like, the people you're close to in this lifetime, your souls in past lifetimes have usually decided there's something. Like, my brother and I have a complicated relationship. He was like, in past lives, you guys are like, we need to work this out. So make us brothers in this lifetime,

and let's figure this out. And then you're drawn to certain friends, even. Like, on some soul level, we're all drawn to each other. And, like, true or not, it's fun to think about and, like, just kind of ruminate on for a while. Dude, absolutely. I think there's a reason why we all can. Even you, when we were texting, it was like,

I feel like you really understood it. Yeah, me too. He just gets it. Exactly. We're on the same wavelength. What is it? Yeah. Like, why're on the same wavelength. What is it? Yeah. Like why?

There's something there. What is it? Like why have all these people entered our lives and why do they end up staying in our lives and some don't? It's like, what is that it thing? Who knows what that is? Maybe that it thing is like, you're about 3,000, I'm about 3,000. Right.

And it's like, don't you want to hang out with people around 3,000? I can't hang out with these kids that are only 500. Right. Shit. Right? It's a crazy way to you want to hang out with people around 3,000? I can't hang out with these kids that are only 500. Right. Shit. Right? It's a crazy way to think about it. I will say this.

The world should not operate like this. No. We've got to act as if this is it. We have to act as if this is it because- He's murdering people. He's a young guy. This is what you do when you're 200. Right, right, right. This is what you do.

You kill people and you realize it's not worth it. What if they came back with that BC mentality and was like, we can't kill people now. We can do this all the time. What are you talking about? I threw stone at a lot of people to kill them. That was fun. All these pedophiles are like,

listen, this is their 100th life. So what if he's 11? Anyway, something to ruminate on. Something to think on. So what if he's 11? Oh, geez. Anyway, something to ruminate on, something to think on. Maybe it offers some clarity for your day. So how stoned were you when you came up with all this shit? Dude, I don't even smoke, man. He's in a very spiritual place now that he's really successful. I'll do it.

Once you stop needing to worry about other shit, you start to take a picture. It's very true. I'm saying that as a joke, but that is also, you don't have that stress. And I was like, and I think for you, I think it's kind of fed into each other. Like as you've gotten more successful,

you've gotten more kind of spiritual. And then that makes you more successful because you're more at peace with everything. It's a dope thing to watch. Real talk, it's like, it's the only way to explain it. You ever find that?

Like when you're like, why is this working? Why do I understand how to do this? Why do I know what to do? Why do I know how to succeed in this and You know, sometimes you got to be like, oh sometimes You know you have a your reason to do it or you're built to do it or you're built to lead I think you like success forces you to be Either a tyrant and an evil person or someone who starts to understand that things are way bigger then well Duvall something on the podcast you did with you of just like you gotta

Have a bunch of shit to know that none of it means anything But you got to have a bunch of success to know that I mean You got to have a bunch of something got to have money to chase it for so long and then you get it You're like this was matter. Yeah, but you need to get there, right? And it's like, not everybody has it. Oh, let me have that problem, let me figure that out. I don't knock people that are trying to get there because I know there's no way that they could wrap their head around it without,

there's no way that they could wrap their head around it without experiencing it. If I could tell you two plus two is four, like all right, two plus two is four, but what the fuck does that mean? I'm like, all right, like, I gotta show you, you gotta have it, you gotta like,

be able to touch it and see exactly what it is before you kind of fully understand it and know, okay, that's what that is. Yes.

Like, if you're just telling me that shit, I'll be like, okay, I can believe you, but like, I'd much rather fuck her out on my own.

You wanna see it. Yeah. To your earlier point, what I was gonna say, there's some people who are success and they're kind of like, tyrannical, whatever.

To your earlier point, those might just be younger souls who try the tyrant shit they try dominating everything and then they're just like after at the end of that life they're like what the fuck was this worth and then in the next life they're like oh i don't need to do that anymore so those people often like they ask them when they're older and they're alone like what they've learned right and i mean you see movies about this all the kind of all these movies about you know these old people what is it not scrooge scrooge is a ghost of girlfriend's past oh

groundhog day maybe is that no what's the guy for the christmas one scrooge right or like the grinch right there are these people that just have everything but they're isolated to themselves and they learn that there's misery burns and mr And then what do they end up learning? They end up learning the movie is really about what is most important is the connection you have with people. And so a lot of times these tyrants, they go this whole life and then they realize

at the end of it, none of the things that they have mattered and the thing that they could have had the whole time isn't there. And then they take that to the next life and then who knows who they become, Bernie Sanders or some shit. They just want to give everything to everybody, which might be the extreme. But I guess the point is, like,

sometimes people write these movies and TV shows without even realizing what they're putting out there. Right. It's like Truman Show. You go watch the Truman Show right now, bro. Truman Show fucked me up. Yeah, it really did fuck me up for a while. Like, watching it now.

But what if, you know? Like, well, I. Truman Show fucked me up. Yeah, it really did fuck me up for a while. Like, watching it now. But what if, you know? You know, like, well, I remember watching it as a child. Oh, man, this would be so crazy. And then, like, we watch it now with, like, all the fucking knowledge you have of, like, how shit is fucking, everything everywhere is recorded.

There's nowhere you can go where somebody can't fucking find you on a camera or some shit like that. And you're just like... It's kind of narcissistic to think, like, what if that was me? Like, why would I be important enough to be the center of a fucking show like that but I'm constantly like you well it is you every time I jerk off every time I'm like a guilty pleasure song and sing along no never mind man put on fucking regulate. Yeah, I'm cool. I'm cool. I swear.

There's, I mean, no bullshit. This is when I was, I think, like maybe five years old, six years old or something like that. Maybe seven years old. I thought I was in the Truman Show. That's happened to an alarming number of people that I know. But really young, right? That's like a sight. That's early to be thinking that shit, though. Yeah, yeah. Five years old? I think it's a normal thought to come to a venture, so like but really young right so like a sight really early to be thinking that shit yeah yeah so five years old that's it I think it's a normal thought to like come to adventure but I was really young and that I started thinking about the movie yeah sorry I

never saw the movie okay right crazy this is me just going at a very young age I was just acknowledging like human existence and like why people would do certain things like you better be reincarnated if you're thinking that's that's what I'm saying like I'm not bullshitting when I say to you. I'm trying to explain why I would understand it that age I remember like people would wave at me when I was leaving the bus Right we were leaving a bus after going to some sports thing and they drop you off at your crib And they would always see you later, and I'd be like why do they feel inclined to do that? What I mean did they don't have to do that they could just say goodbye what and I'm just kind of like analyzing weird shit and eating like a fucking

fruit roll up yeah off my thumb right like it was weird like kid and adult shit but it was one of those things where I think if it's true this reincarnation shit is true it's like yeah something stuck in you you know and you're young but you're old yeah I listen to sports radio station in Dallas I always shout out called The Ticket and then they had one of the morning shows

I always listen to they talked about like this Reddit thread of just people who have stories that seem like their kid is they'll like speak on something

from a past life and it's like creepy and I should if I know we're gonna have this conversation I put some in you ready for the wild shit yeah

this is the wild shit there's people listening to this right now who've probably felt this. You ever feel like you're more mature than your parents? All the time. All the time. You ready?

You ready for it? Yeah. Because you are. Yeah. How fucking wild is that? You might have had more lives than your parents, and you're trying to explain shit to them just about life or about who they are how they are and they can't get it and we just chalk it up to oh parents are stubborn

it's like no they're fucking young maybe they're only a couple hundred lives it's a possibility i'm not saying these things are right but it's possible there are ways that you could explain the world that kind of fit into the formula quite well. And not one of your parents might be really old, and the other one might be really young. One of your brothers might be really young. One of your brothers might be really old. Right? Who knows?

Who knows? Now you guys got something cool to think about. Ruminate on this week. Shall we talk about some deportes? Okay, word. Oh, yeah, yeah. Before we know, we got to pay some bills. I want to have you guys

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I'm going my man Boban. Give me that eight-foot fucking monster. Okay, he seems like a gentle soul But like someone that if it's like time to go just like people like the giant in Game of Thrones What is it what is that move right here the He just gives one of these like, he goes whack. He just whack it. And they just go. Flying. What is that move right here? A clothesline.

A clothesline. A whole row of people. A whole thing. Okay, so you go Boban is number one. I'm going to go Boban. I'm going to go Scary Terry Rozier, Youngstown, Ohio. I like that. Great. Youngstown, huge fight community.

Yes, big time. Birthdays of boxing. Is it the birthday? I believe so. I thought that was in like Greece or something. Well, maybe time. It was the birthplace of boxing. Is it the birthplace? I believe so. I thought that was in Greece or something. Well, maybe as far as- American boxing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, yeah. I think they were throwing hands probably all over the place. Kelly Pavlik from Youngstown. We did our rough and rowdy in Youngstown. Really? There's people ready to fucking go there. That's another thing that you guys do. We can talk about that later, but so well promoted, man.

But okay, keep going. So I think then I'll go, especially if I'm thinking Avengers type style, I'm going to go with Markeith and Marcus Morris. Oh, I like your list. Right? It's a good list. And then, so that's four. So I need one more. John Wall, gang related.

You know? I don't know if he can back it up. But yeah, I'll roll with that. I feel like, oh no, I'll do Marcus Smart too. I'll take him. He's a little fucking crazy. He's scrappy. I'll grab those Boston boys.

I don't know if he's about that life though, man. And get Boban. I love Marcus Smart. He flops too much for me to think he's about that life. Yeah, okay. I don't know if he's about that life. I think he's great in the game. I think it looks like

he's about that life, but I don't know if he's about that life. Okay, Kaz. I'm going to lead off with my man Jimmy Butler. That's right. I had him.

I had him. He's number one going to crowd. I think I'm going to fuck some shit up. That's true, because you know what? Jimmy Butler hates anybody who had a house.

Exactly. So if you had a shelter over your head, he wants to fucking kill you. So he'll kill everybody in the crowd. Jimmy Butler, man. You guys can afford tickets? Yeah. I respect just the way he just doesn't give a fuck about shit. Yeah, that's a good one.

If shit pops off, I kind of feel like he'll be the first one to hop in the crowd. He's like the third or fourth best player in the team, so he could miss a few one. You know, if shit pops off, like, I kind of feel like he'll be the first one to hop in the crowd. And you can kind of afford it. He's, like, the third or fourth best player in the team. So, he could miss a few games. He's fine. Right. Secondly, in the spirit of your Beaubon pick, I'm going to go with Giannis. Because Giannis just plays so violently. Bro.

And, like, he doesn't like people. Yeah. Like, he likes fans. Yeah. But, like, other people in the NBA, like, he just doesn't like them. Right. He doesn't give a fuck it he's not trying to take no pictures with you

he's not trying to go to fucking like dude's gym in Midtown and work out with you guys like no he's by himself and he's about his teammates and he's about his fans

and he will fuck you up and he seems like he can fight thirdly I do like I do like his Scary Terry pick as well Scary Terry's definitely

about that life For sure Absolutely Fourth I'ma go With somebody We kind of like Shit it on a couple times

But I actually do think He's about that life If pushed And that's Russell Westbrook I had him too I had him too I think Russell Yeah

I just like people Who just play so fucking violently And just like I know He's about that life. When you put up 60 for Nipsey, I said this guy about it. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

This guy. This guy ready. Fuck. And I think my fifth pick. Fifth one. Last one. Greg Popovich. Greg Popovich.

The fucking camera over the fucking head. You roll out this one. Exactly. You need strategy. You need strategy going up against an entire arena. God damn it. He will have that motherfuckers. He will have motherfuckers fucking divide and conquer.

He's cat. He's the cat. Exactly. He's cat. He'll get up there and fucking hit an alien. He's like, why the fuck should I listen to you? He is, bro. He is.

So pop is my fifth pick. I like that five. Okay. I'm going number one. My first pick was Russell Westbrook, without a doubt. It is just sheer violence, power, aggression. He'd be hopping up over those. Intensity means a lot to me.

Especially in that environment. It's Game of Thrones. When it's killer be killed. Yes. Russell Westbrook. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You want killers. Agility. You know what I mean?

Definitely him. Boogie. Just raw anger. Like the Hulk. And size too. Size and anger. And I just feel like he punches heavy. Like I really think he's going to end you up. He's very lumbering. Yes. So I feel like one of those

hits will just knock out. Okay. So it's Russ. Boogie. I also had Giannis, but I want to take him away just because you had Giannis. Okay, it was Russ, Boogie. Oh, my God. What happened to my fucking... I'll give you one. Okay, go.

Z-Bo. Z-Bo. Zach Randolph. I can't. I'll tell you why I can't. Zach Randolph, he punked Boogie a couple times. Hereolph. I can't. I'll tell you why I can't. Zach Randolph, he punked Boogie a couple times. Here's why I can't. What's up?

One-on-one fight in the street over an argument. Zeebo. Arena melee. Mass chaos. Mass chaos. Too slow. He's too slow. Plotting.

You know what I mean? Like a one-on-one elbows up fight. Yes. Got you. But I think I need athleticism in this type of thing. So I'll take Jonas. You got to be nimble. Nimble.

Let's move around. Move and shake. Okay? So we got one. Where are we at? We had Russell. We have Boogie. We have Giannis.

You know who else I take? Trey Young. Wow. Trey Young has such a chip on his fucking shoulder. I feel like he's going to be like Ant-Man. Just running underneath people, jumping behind them, snapping heads. The worst thing that can happen for that guy is if he

somehow sneaks in and does win Rookie of the Year. Yes. If I was his GM or his coach, I want them rigging that shit against him because I want that chip forever. It's just, what's his face? I've got to be better for Luka than not win it.

I think Rookie of the Year doesn't. I mean, I guess Melo lost it to LeBron, and I thought it might do the same for him, but it did not, obviously. But with him specifically, he's got a chip. He got that Eminem thing. He needs the chip on his shoulder. Bernard Hopkins, who you always bring up. Okay.

Number four. Just hear me out. Steph, hear me out. Oh, my God. Just hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out me out. Oh, my God. Just hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. He's my Hawkeye.

I'm putting him up in the bleachers, and I'm just getting blunt objects and having him throw them. Exactly. That's it. You put him up high. He's my sniper. You put him up high. You put him up high.

I like that. He's calm, casual, doesn't have to engage in anybody. Do some like, hey, we're all Christians here. Very heartless. The second he's up there, done. Game over. I'm just taking people out okay now i have one more i have one more guy i feel like you need more than four i need more than four yeah but no no i named four i think that was why he took one away because you had named it oh so you didn't use zebo i'm not using people can't use anybody going uh draymond no No I think he's soft Nobody going Draymond

Okay My number five I'm going to say Your Avengers Like lack a lot of size That's how they are They lack size I know

You need to get somebody You need a home run hitter You need a clean up man Okay Okay fine Tyson Chandler Okay I can do that Clean up, man. Okay. Okay, fine. Tyson Chandler. Okay.

I can do that. Oh, you know, no one's even picked LeBron, but I don't even think LeBron's going to do anything. Zero chance I'm picking LeBron. I think Tyson. LeBron will go up there and he'll fucking host a fucking dinner party with everybody. Be like, oh, guys, oh, man, let's go. It's wasted talent and body Tyson Chandler Soft but I want him to be like a crusader

Like I want him to show up You know In the whole like priest outfit Get really all about it Do a prayer And then just start lighting people the fuck up Just light them the fuck up That's 7-1

He's about that life Full beard Like one of those old medieval helmets I want him to show up with I was surprised they didn't go with James Johnson from the Heat. Good call! I knew I'd get some of those grizzled vets who've just been around, had some knowledge,

some reincarnated knowledge in the league. MMA fights, too. Was he a black belt or some shit? Yeah, the motherfucker is real. That's the number one pick in this entire thing. That size with the black belt? Dude, it's nuts. He's a heavy-hitting motherfucker. He's like, you know in the hood there's always one black karate family, and he's the son of that.

His dad was like a real, I don't know if it was kickboxing or maybe it was like a traditional martial art, but he was like a badass, and then James learned it his whole life growing up. Yeah, I thought that was a good. What about Steven Adams? That's who I had. Oh, fuck. That was a good What about Steven Adams That's who I had Oh fuck That's a good pick My initial five was

Jimmy Butler Steven Adams Russ Bradley Beal Just cause I saw He didn't give a fuck About going up against Draymond Like he went at Draymond

Which I liked And then Was just smiling afterward Like what's up And then I said You need a dirty guy So I went Zaza Zaza gonna be taking out ACL Zaza gonna be punching the nuts Zaza don't give a fuck And then I also, you need a dirty guy, so I went Zaza. Zaza is not going to be taking out ACL.

He's going to be punching the nuts. Zaza don't give a fuck. And then I also thought of David West. Okay, I like David West. Not to be trifled with. Yeah, he's a boxer. But old. Old, but boxer.

Again, I think fights dirty, don't care. Just let's go. You know, in a weird way. I also, two of the people I was going to pick already got picked by you guys, so I tried to find new people. I heard DeMar DeRozan can go. We both heard Vince Sta to find new people. I heard DeMar DeRozan can go. We both heard Vince Staples talk about that. But I just don't trust his killer instinct enough.

Strange way, I might sub out Pop just in case we don't need strategy or whatever. Right. I'd want Mello. I'd pick Mello. You could keep him. You know why? You know why I'd pick Mello? Why?

Because he's never won anything. People like you. People like you. You can tell how bad he's... Oh, he's got a personal... He's got a fucking... Don't you remember, though? He fought someone and ran the fuck away.

Remember? He was like... When he popped the... What was it? He was like, oh, punches as he was backbiting. Marty Collins or some shit like that. He didn't fight KG for saying some shit about his wife, Cheerios. It's not like how it tastes like hunting that Cheerios.

Cheerios. And KG notoriously not down a fight. Right. It's true. He, like, went to the bus. I forgot who he punched. This is when he was a nugget. Yeah.

Was it Jarrett? Was he the Jarrett? No, it wasn't Jarrett Smith. That's when they weren't. I thought Jarrett Smith was involved in it, though. I guess so, if he was on the same team. I think it was like Marty Collins or some shit. Like somebody that was on the Knicks that wasn't really like.

No, Jarrett Jeffries. Was it Jarrett Jeffries? I think it was Jarrett Jeffries. I think it was Jarrett Jeffries. I'm almost positive it was Jarrett Jeffries. I think it was Jared Jeffries. I think it was Jared Jeffries. I'm almost positive it was Jared Jeffries. What about Rondo? Ooh.

Wow. You don't have the size, but he's... Like agility. He's scrappy. He's scrappy. He's scrappy. He'll fight dirty.

He'll cut your Achilles. I think Rondo can sit on Boban's shoulder and be like a little fucking Groot and whatever. He'll ride Boban. Yeah, exactly.

Like, release the Rondo and fucking Boban's throwing at people and whatever. The wide Beaubon. Yeah, exactly. Release the Rondo. Fucking Beaubon's throwing at people and shit. Shooting shit. Here's what's crazy. You take the five best that we named, and you put them up against the five best from Detroit, Indiana, I'd take the five best from Detroit, Indiana. Ron Artest, Stephen Jackson, Ben Wallace off rip.

It's like... Jermaine O'Neal. Jermaine O'Neal is... His sliding punch. If he didn't slip and he hit that guy, it would have been a murder like he would be in jail right now because he might even what the slip the dude was out yeah he was fucking in night night I mean he like some water yeah still got to save that guy's life is that oh my god was the guy was the guy ready for the punch area was well yeah was the crazy dudes who were squaring up on those guys.

They were like, yeah, let's do this. You are a regular ass person. Those are some of the best videos I've ever seen in my life, dog. Ever. That shit is, I mean, it's cliche to be like, if the internet and Twitter and all that shit was around when Malice happened. But, I mean, it really is true. We need to interview those guys.

Yeah. Get squared up. Yes. Because those are some brave- I looked them up. I tried to find them because I was Doing like a little Podcast documentary thing On Malice with the Palace Okay

And their names are out there And everything Like a couple of them Got sentenced to this that Like community service Whatever And like I was tweeting Like if anybody knows them

Like let me get in contact With them They did a little bit Of press early on There was like a couple Interviews with them But I mean those guys They're

I might take them If you're crazy enough To square up with these guys Fuck that Let's go again Bro Those guys are nuts Five nine I mean, those guys, I might take them. If you're crazy enough to square up with these guys, fuck that. Let's go again. Those guys are nuts. Five-nine, squaring up against one. That's how you knew Detroit was going to go broke.

These motherfuckers got no idea what they're doing. Seriously. Jeez, man. What intentions. What's the documentary? Can you talk about it or not? Yeah, I mean, I do. I've only done a few of them.

They're kind of time-consuming with everything else I got going. But I call it storyboards. Like, we storyboard out a story of anything sports-related that kind of transcends, you know, just your average sports story. And then, like, I did one on Chappelle, just, like, kind of the rise and fall. Not fall, but disappearance and return of him. Did one on James Dolan and just how fucked the Knicks are. That was, like, when the Free Oakley thing happened. I just, like, quickly banged one out there.

I did one on A-Rod about how he's like, he's just an enigma, A-Rod. Yeah. So they're like long form. I edit in audio clips and interview clips. Where can we watch them? Where can we listen? They're on iTunes.

The feed is just called Storyboards, Barstool Storyboards. That sounds dope. So it's probably like five or six of them. I want to see a Chappelle one for sure. Yeah, it's, I mean, it's just all my kind of take on these guys. And it's something like every time I do it – oh, I did one on Dennis Rodman most recently because I think Dennis Rodman is just the most fascinating. We all know he's crazy, but he's really fucking crazy.

Why, why, why? I just feel like he is – he was like so ahead of his time with – people were like, oh, he had dyed hair and piercings and a celebrity girlfriend. That's like every fucking guy in the league right now. You know what I mean? Think about like you got a crazy beard and a crazy girlfriend. Tattoos everywhere. So what? He was just born 20 years too early.

Exactly. And then, I mean, I still think people don't, like he was basically like some sort of ambassador to North Korea. What? Yeah. You know, like how he went from the 72 and 10 Bulls to fucking sitting next to Kim Jong-un is just like,

everyone's like, wow, that's crazy. And it's like, no, no, no, wait, we got to talk about this. This is fucking crazy. How the fuck did this happen? And the fact, did you know he had a 13-inch growth spurt when he was like 21? Oh, shit. Yeah, he was like not of size to play in the NBA.

He was cleaning toilets in an airport in fuck, wherever he grew up. Dallas. And in like over he went from like I think from 21 to 22 or 20 to 21, he grew 13 inches. What? And then he started playing for a juco, right?

Yeah, and then that was all because he got befriended by this kid whose brother had killed himself by accident. And they became best friends because they were loners. That family took care of him. And it was all because it was like a crazy accident with a shotgun that this one kid needed a friend. And Dennis was his friend. Like the things that needed to fall in place for this dude who was like 5'9 at the age of 21 to then become an NBA Hall of Famer,

five-time champion. It's crazy. Best defender ever? Arguably, yeah. Best rebounder? Best pure rebounder, you know what I mean, for his size. What is your take? I mean, you don't have to give it away.

Wait, it's already out? Yeah, yeah, it's out. Okay, so what is your take after kind of digesting all of it? Well, you know, what's funny is that after we put it out, Rodman came through a couple months later and he did the podcast and he is he is like every he lived up to all the hype yeah yeah like the real deal crazy but I mean even just like the salacious shit like he's fucking his fan his fans wives like fans would come up to him like would you

please fuck my wife and like he was like yeah I would go up that's the last person in the world you want to fuck your wife yeah And like, he was like, yeah, I would go up to, that's the last person in the world. You want to fuck your wife. Yeah. They were, they wanted it though. And then like, you know, that's a little B the base guy, basically I'll fuck my bitch.

Like they would like fucking concerts. They were like, put their girlfriends on like in their hands and like put them on stage. Like basically I'll please fuck my bitch. Who are these people? That's crazy, man. White people.

And then, you know, am I right? Not me, but yep. I get it. I get it. I mean, White people? Am I right? That's what white people say. Not me, but yep, I get it. I mean, then he gets mixed up with Trump and reality TV, and then that all comes to be with the president. It's just the story to me is absolutely wild.

And you think he's clinically insane? What type of crazy are we talking about here? Is he aware of his actions? Is he aware of the results? I think so. I think he's pretty self-aware. I think he's got some substance abuse issues, but I don't think it's craziness because he seems pretty... Cocaine? I don't know what. I just feel

like he partied pretty hard and got some miles on wear and tear on the brain or whatever. I mean, when he was doing Answer the Internet, he basically told us that his aunt blew him once. Oh, shit. Yeah. Like, we were asking the question. I think it was the grandma question.

And I remember being like, oh, boy, this is probably going to go, like, super viral in, like, a bad way. Like, we're almost, like, making fun of him or whatever. And, like, nobody quite picked it up, but he was just like, yeah, one time my aunt was just like, and he kind of mumbles and shit.

He's like, you're just sucking on that dick. And I was like, okay. So he is an interesting cat for better or worse in a weird way that i feel like people don't even you know i think when you're like um like a rod when he he was so clean cut and then when he has like one transgression it's like holy shit even though it's not maybe you know steroids whatever when you are constantly crazy and constantly fucking up it becomes white noise you know yeah so it was like oh yeah, yeah, Rodman's overseas in North Korea

with a fucking Avengers team that he put together to be an ambassador of basketball to a fucking tyrannical world criminal. Oh, yeah, whatever. That's just the worm being the worm. It's like, no, no, no. We got to talk about this, man.

This is fucking crazy. So, yeah, I mean, I went front to back on him. So that was the most recent. Is he aware of how absurd his life has been? I kind of asked him that. I was saying, what do you think about the Twitter era and the social media era?

Would that have really been a problem for you? And he was just like, oh, no, I would have killed it. He would have leaned in. He meant more like more fans. I would have fucked more of his wives. But I think he also on some level would have understood I'm going to grow my brand. I'm going to be a celebrity and shit like that.

There's a handful of people that I think they're always talking about, oh man, these guys don't have to grow up in the social media area. Dennis Rodman, Shaq, fucking KG. A lot of these... From a distance it feels like he's aware of his crazy, but he has such a self-destructive streak that he can't stop it.

Yes. Agreed. So it's just like, yeah, I know this is crazy, but I'm going to do it and whatever. Yep. It's worked for him so far. Yeah. I mean, I said if you didn't have that growth spurt, like where would you be? He was like, dead for sure.

Like no doubt in the gutter. Dead. Did he speak at all about his coaches or teammates' effect on him and how they – Chuck Daly was like his father from what I understand. And when Chuck Daly got fired, apparently that's when – There's a story he was, like, going to kill himself, and Craig Sager, like, stopped him.

And, like, I think the story I've read on different – the details kind of like shift but it basically centers around craig sager and him at a detroit strip club being like and he was like don't kill yourself and like that was like his story he told when craig sager passed away so i think craig sager like i think basketball for sure saved his life whether or not it was individual coaches i think his time in san antonio like did not work out at all david robinson sat him down i was like you need need to find God. And he was like, suck right here. Get out of here.

But yeah, I think he's a dude who was born ahead of his time, had some destructive issues, but on the... I think he was also, yeah, another thing, he always seemed like he was on the search for a father figure, which you see with a lot of guys who don't have great father figures. Even the family that took him in, he doesn't talk about them anymore.

There's some sort of falling out with that he's like dying for a father figure it seems like well he seemed to get a couple of them yeah but then

he's quite successful with them yeah and then when Chuck got fired you know how I learned all this I watched some shitty ass bootleg ass documentary

or not documentary biopic on it I think I know what you're talking about and it was just like poorly acted he narrated it or whatever

but like I turned that on for like researching. It was like a documentary, and I realized it was like a fictional actor. I was like, oh, shit. The way he tells it, when Chuck got fired, that's when he was like, that's when he became the worm and dyed his hair and piercings. Didn't have someone to keep him on the straight and narrow. He loved hard work.

And I remember him saying that about the White family, too. Whoever coached him was like, I realize I like hard work. He was a guy who needed discipline and structure from a father figure to say, hey, work your ass off, be this guy. And David Robinson wasn't that. No, not at all. He needed somebody. Yeah, probably.

He was in the Navy. He was like a fucking, you know. Very clean cut. Yes sir, no sir, ma'am, yes ma'am type of dude. So he thrived with the coaches that allowed him to kind of be himself. What I'm fascinated by, and I wonder if you had to talk to him at all about this, but the time with Jordan, how did they mesh?

They didn't. They didn't talk. They didn't talk. But did Jordan recognize his greatness? I think so. I think that's why he didn't talk. I feel like Jordan wouldn't fuck with, like, I don't think he's going to have a guy on his team who he's not.

You know what I mean? He knows he is somewhat of a distraction. I don't think he's going to have a guy on his team who he's not. You know what I mean? He knows he is somewhat of a distraction. I don't think Jordan would have dealt with anything that wasn't worth the squeeze, you know? And he'll be a piece of shit to, like, your teammate. If you're fucking up, Jordan's the number one guy to jump down your throat. For him to leave Dennis alone completely means I know this guy's great. He's just fucking nuts.

I don't want to deal with it. You go do you. I know you're good. Do think that jordan recognizes on some level because jordan has his issues right jordan would you know like to gamble like to get out there in the world do a couple things that could be considered taboo do you think on some level jordan was like okay this guy's great and he's just out there the cost of greatness sometimes is being out there i'm out there with this gambling and this other stuff that I'm fucking around with. Maybe he's out there with dying his fucking hair, but as long

as he's getting me 15 rebounds a night. Right. I mean, at the same time, I think a lot of people are shocked when you hear that, because you'd be surprised how many times people just don't fucking hang out. Like, a lot of championship teams, they just don't. They're not buddies. It's the job. They're professionals.

They come, they go to work, and then they fucking do what they fucking do. And I think that they, like, once, they said once the Bulls guys, like, once that broke up, I think he played for the Lakers and the Mavs after that, and he was, like, a total disaster. Like, he just got suspended at technicals. Like, it was like a joke, you know? It was like he didn't have, I don't think there was anybody on those teams that he respected enough to, like, fall in line. You know what I mean? Ah.

So I think he needs someone that he was, like, I respect. So he really respected Jordan. And they respect that, you know, you're crazy, but you do your thing. And at the same time, his skill is a very complimentary skill. So it's not like he can't just fuck it. Yes, you don't take away from anybody. Yeah, you don't take away from anybody. He's the best teammate on earth.

If he's not crazy, he just plays the best defense and gets all the rebounds. He does everything that you don't run out of. Wants no shots whatsoever. He's going to give all effort. He's going to set the standard for effort for your team. He's diving for every

loose ball. Oh, so and maybe, wow, I'd love to talk to Jordan about that. Hopefully that will be in that cool Jordan doc that comes out. But I would love to

just have like a 15 minute convo. You can tell by the fucking glass of fucking yak in his cup. I would love to see just a 15 minute convo from can tell by the fucking glass of fucking yak in his cup they're gonna do it but I would love to see

just a 15 minute convo from Jordan just about his relationship with Rodman and like how you how he learned to manage his greatness

and like what he learned was the best approach and maybe I think he said that that Scotty wanted an apology from when they were like Pistons

Bulls like rivalry and then Phil Jackson said something like you have to go apologize to Scottie. And he was like, go fuck yourself. No shot. But just to kind of like, you know, Scottie Pippen,

a guy who wants the apology versus like Jordan just kind of. I want a ring. Whatever. That's the apology. Yeah, he's on my team now. Like name on the front sort of thing. So I am on the court, off the court, most interesting cat like in the world, I think.

Yeah. Wild. Dude, so many cool things. You've been doing it at Barstool. I feel like I'm a big fan of Barstool, and we've had this discussion in off air, but I feel like sometimes you guys get a bad rap from people who don't even know you. Don't even try. Don't even give it a-

No idea of the content whatsoever, but what you've been doing over there, it seems to me is pretty awesome because you have creative flexibility. They'll get behind these projects that you want to do, and they'll support them and put them out. And for me as a creative, it's like I've tried to build this within my own, you know, our own ecosystem here. Right. But it's amazing that you're part of a network that allows you to do that. Most networks do not. Yeah, I mean, once you get the job, for better or worse, like, it's like just go. You have, like, a clean slate.

Like, when I started, I got a login to the WordPress blog, and it was like write whatever you want, man. And are you still writing a lot or are you doing other content? I mean, just sheer, like, time constraint. I'm not. When I can, I do. Like, the reason I've only done probably four, five, or six of those storyboards is that it's like putting together a full documentary. And when we're doing two podcasts a week, five days of radio, four rundowns, Snapchat, it all adds up.

And there's just not enough time to do them right. So same thing with writing. It's just more time consuming. But I bang them out when I can. How do you manage your time? I mean, at this point, I'm kind of like, you know, what makes us the most money? It's like what's the most valuable, what's the most profitable? Like, you know, the blog, keeping the page views up and keeping the actual website is important.

But it's not like you write this blog and you bring in this money for the company. You know what I mean? It's kind of like more of a long-term, how many page views do you get translates to how many advertisers you get. Whereas if I get more downloads on the podcast, the rate goes up, we get more money. You know what I mean? So directly like that.

Yeah, yeah. Nice to meet you, man. Guys, got to roll out. Yeah, I got to roll out. Sorry, guys. Okay. So the podcast is – I started the podcast at Barstool. We had the first one.

So the podcast is – I started the podcast at Barstool. We had the first one. So I feel like the audio world is where I've kind of chosen to make my mark. So we do the two hours of Sirius every day. We do the podcast a couple times a week. So that's more – which is funny, though, because I think at the end of the day, just as a written blogger, I think is actually my best skill. Right. But it just seems to be more important to the company to do the podcast radio thing right now I love it I love it I feel like I feel like for me one of the trickiest things

with wearing a lot of hats is not giving myself enough time to create and I've been thinking about how do I get to a place where I can focus on creating and not focus on going I need this thumbnail for this YouTube video I think because so much well that's what I like it with something like barstools yeah the producers and interns and people who do the graphics and all that kind of shit stuff that not only consumes your time but I just do not know how to do right I couldn't I maybe I could sit around watching YouTube tutorial and learn but my brother who's now my producer was kind of the guy the guy i met there yeah yeah so he was doing that shit for me when we were both just kind of like trying

to cobble it together and now he's there in an official that's such a blessing to have a family member who is good at that thing even andrew early on greg filming everything yeah i mean he he kind of bootstrapped it and like learned that shit on his own. Yeah. And he loves that kind of stuff. So that worked out well. Dude, you need it. Now there's all the resources. You need a team. I'm just-

And then there's just so many hours in a day without burning yourself out too. Well, that's the thing. We could do this literally 24 hours a day, but you're going to burn out. I'd rather burn myself out on the creative than burn myself out on the administrative. Absolutely. Because it sometimes feels for me like I'm looking for new space right now for a new podcast studio and some other creative space essentially for other projects. And it's like, okay, I'm going to look at space. It's not the best use of your time.

Exactly. But it's almost like I want someone who's my right hand, who almost acts as a buffer, that I trust their instincts on, you know, hey, this is the right thumbnail, this is the right thing. Yes, yeah, yeah. They got to get your humor, they got to get the message. And they got to know what I want technologically, and then so they can have that kind of, so they can go back and forth with Alex about what the thumbnail and that kind of stuff. And you can trust that they're doing it right.

Exactly. And I have to accept it. It won't be exactly what I want, but it will be – I think that will be tough for you to accept. I know, but I'm learning to accept. Yeah, when you give up a little control. But the only way you scale, right?

The only way you can scale up is you have to delegate, but it's like I can't be going – I can't be all day doing every description, every title, fixing every word on everything because then I won't have time to just think of ideas and create shit. I watched it with Portnoy, the guy who founded Barstool. He's like half business, like high business shit, talking about trying to sell this thing, acquisitions and salaries and who we were going to sign.

And while he's still blogging and making videos and doing radio and he's just getting fucking ripped in either direction. You can't. I mean, that's why you guys brought in the CEO, right? That's why you guys. We need somebody who's just like smarter than us and knows what they're doing because. You guys do the business.

Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's the only way to truly scale. But delegating the responsibility is tricky because you know your vision. You've got to have talented people who have the same, they're like-minded, you know, the same instincts. It's a very tricky hire. It's like, I got very lucky with Alex.

Alex and I are on the same page with humor, and on the same page with content and like. Like you said about the girl having a seizure, it was like, let's go. We just knew it. Instinct to go. So not only that, it's like, in a weird way, you know, when Alex started this,

he was, he didn't really do a lot of video. So I think one of the benefits was he's evolved as a content creator with my voice. If you take some guy who's coming from the outside, often they have their voice and how they want it. Oh, man. That's the most important. We hire a new cameraman or someone to follow around, this, that. Right. They just know, all right, when that happens, film him because he's going to have a reaction instead of filming you know what i mean like yeah it's almost at barstool probably like your cameraman editing instincts are what they teach you is

probably wrong wrong you know it's like focus on the action no no focus on the reaction and shit like that because everybody has to tap down to see your personality and they want to see how you're reacting to see how you're reacting to the world you're in instead of this lady falling. Right. Or you give someone something to edit

and it's like it comes back and it's like, dude, you took out all the funny shit and it's like you're doing what you thought was the best joke when realized.

You're shooting a movie. We're not shooting a movie. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're shooting a reality show. Yeah.

Yeah, it's cool. I've even noticed from when I first started working with you, Drew, to now it's like when we first were coming over material, you would like nitpick over a lot of stuff. Right. Now it's like you see that I see your vision. I've noticed a growth in Alex too.

Like he just seems to get it. And that's why I want to make sure I – not that my voice means so much, but I want to make sure I compliment that my voice means so much but i want to make sure i complimented like him getting that moment is like for sure not a lot of people would get that and that's a testament to working with you and you just kind of talking to him and helping him along but like sure that was like sports like chemistry you know yeah so you love the alley-oop up and you know someone's gonna just be there throw it down 100 but yeah it's something i've been thinking about and i try to ask people who are like you in your position in terms of scaling up. It's like at a certain point in time, I cannot do the minutiae of this if I'm going to build it into something as big as I see.

I have to delegate. That's where we, if we're trying to acquire new people, a lot of guys are like, well, I'm going to try to do it on my own. I don't want to give up an ownership or a cut of it. I'm like, more power to you, but you will just run into a ceiling where it's just like if you are a one-man, two-, three-man operation, eventually it's like you're going to have to have an influx of money, an influx of resources, whatever it may be. So that's always kind of the pitch we make.

But then that's where Portnoy was like he did it on his own. You can go far. You can do it, but you have to be – it's a rare person who can take it to that next level. I mean it's amazing what we've accomplished just Alex and I in terms of content this year so far. It's unfucking real. And you get a big cosign. You get someone like Rogan or someone who throws it out there and it's like – And that is the beauty.

And that's what you and I were talking about. There is justice to this shit. If you put out good content... Hopefully the cream rises to the top. It does. It does. And the people that are around you that aren't struggling will support you. That's what I've noticed.

The first people to support are the people that are doing well. They don't need to, you know, watch theirs and backstab and protect and defend. They're not jealous. They're not bitter. They're truly going, yo, this is really good. Like that Ask the Internet idea, I thought it was so, or Answer the Internet, I thought it was so fucking good because you knock it out within the same time as the podcast. It's right after the podcast.

Once we've hopefully gained the rapport or whatever. Right. You open up a little bit. Yeah, which is good. Easy money, hopefully. But yeah, I got to manage. I got to figure that out, Kev. How do I put all those tasks?

It seems like a good start, man. Dude, we're fucking knocking it. It's amazing. But Alex and I will be texting each other all day. He's out to dinner with his girl. It's like, I want, you know what I mean? Interns, man. That's the other thing.

Free labor. You can't trust some of these idiots, but you can get grunt work done, that kind of shit. Yeah, yeah. And sometimes you stumble upon some gold. The next one. Maybe that's it. The two people that we've hired that were free at first have ended up becoming great and yeah full-time people and like yeah there's a lot you got to sift through a lot like when we started when

so Dave expanded from Boston to New York and he was like I'm looking for new writers and I think he got very lucky that he found me and one other guy Keith who we ended up we split it to begin but we were like good you know and yeah that worked and I wonder sometimes if he didn't hit on his first two expansions definitely not he would have he would have just said you know what fuck this didn't work let me scale back to boston and just like he could have dave could have just chosen to dominate boston keep the money in his pockets and like he wanted to blow this up to like an empire but you know then our our like our search for other people was like more of a process and

not as fruitful. But when you do find the right people and hit, it's like it multiplies. You know what I mean? Yes. Now you have another person, and they're going to be searching for their people, and that's how it's exponential once you start to hit on more people. This is what we've been talking about in a lot of ways. I want everybody here who's on this podcast and the other projects that we're doing

to have their own things. Kaz has continuing you know kaz has this show kaz in effect and it's like edin is is a guy who films it and you know who knows what happens with that who knows what akash's project will be but that's the idea it's just like just you know like like gremlins just yes exponentially increase you know feed them after when you're overseeing all of it, you're like the GM almost. That's it. I want all these guys to thrive. Get your money up. Yeah.

Yeah. I think you'd ever have any ego issues. Let's say one of these guys blows up even more than you. No, because- You think you would ever be like, fuck, man, I want it to be the guy. No, because for me, I'm in love with the process, not the outcome. Does that make sense? So it's like there are videos that we do that have not even close to the amount of views as other ones, but they were more fun.

Right. You like those better. I loved making it because I'm in love with the process. So any views that come afterwards are like icing on the cake. That's amazing. So for me, it's like – But again, that's because you're in a position to do that. Like your success is –

I'm eating. If I wasn't eating, I'm sure I'd be just as jealous as everybody else. I need the views. I need the – yeah, yeah, yeah. But since I'm eating and I'm comfy and I can provide for my family and my friends, then I want to see it happen. Like I've been badgering this fucking kid right here, Akash, to get me a stand-up clip because I think that it's going to explode in India. I have a good following in India. And once they see him, they're going to see the coolest version of themselves.

Oh, yeah. And it's like, get me this fucking clip. Get that market. Boom. Yeah. Lock that now, man. That's it. Like, I really think it's to the, you know, we're off to the races.

So the way I set shit up is like, at least for me, my idea is like whoever blows just helps the brand. You know, like I'm sure with Dave at Barstool is like, you know, it might be nice that he might have the most views on something. But if there's someone else who's killing it, that's eventually coming back to the brand. Absolutely. I've never gotten jealous. Maybe because we're so close. I've never gotten jealous of Andrew. Right.

I've never been like, yo, fuck, he he doesn't deserve I've always thought he deserved that the one thing that will happen is I'll get a little insecure like yo fuck what am I doing yeah but then I kind of breathe but there's no but it hasn't ever gotten I'm very I guess thankful maybe or whatever but like they're yet to come close to the point where it's like man why is Andrew I also see the fucking work yeah it is maniacal yeah I mean like this is the most singularly focused person on work that I know in any field. Same way at Barstool. I mean, the guys were really blown off. Alex is exhaling because he knows.

It's insane. Alex got a girl. Andrew married to this. It's true. It's true. I mean, there's a few guys. For the longest time, nobody was really having, like, families or anything. I got married. I had a couple kids. And, like, I's a few guys. For the longest time, nobody was really having families or anything. I got married.

I had a couple kids. And I was happy with that. I love that side of being a dad. It's great. But the guys who were just focused on this 24-7, it paid off. It showed out. You build the life you want. And this guy always wanted that.

And I'm like, man, I don't know a guy that deserves it more. So I've never thought like – because how can you say – jealousy is usually he doesn always wanted that. And I'm like, man, I don't know a guy that deserves it more. So, like, I've never thought, like, because how can you say? Jealousy is usually he doesn't deserve that. If I'm seeing the work, it's hard to be like he don't deserve that. And I feel, you know, you might get lucky on the internet. You make a video that goes viral. You pop a little bit.

Luck is once. But, yes, the sustained, like, all right, now make another million views. Make another 100,000 downloads, whatever, so that sponsors come in and that you have listeners that respond to you, that buy the shit you say to buy and show up to the places you show up. That's where you need to work on it. Now you have a business. And the talent needs to show up. Yeah, that's a great point.

There's a lot of people who can curate stuff, and every once in a while it pops, but it's like, can you create a business a business there's so much smoke and mirrors on the internet especially early on when it was just about clicks on the blog yeah if you know how to optimize seo and do fucking social media yeah we get a million views yeah well but when you put tickets on sale how many are you gonna sell zero it's like put t-shirts on sale yeah zero it's like being an instagram model it's like they have a lot of followers but they're disengaged right they'll a lot of followers, but they're disengaged. Right. They'll give you the double clicks, but they're not going to any event that you're at. They don't care about you enough.

And so then what the fuck is it worth? It's not an intimate relationship. Other than your own ego, I got a million followers. Like, who cares? And it's a useless million. Right. I'd rather have, you know, 30,000 if 25,000 of them will buy it. Simple as that.

Should I say? Yeah. There's this model. I forget what it was. It was like, man, but if you have, you know, 10, was like, man, but if you have 10,000 people, if you have 10,000 loyal, diehard people that fuck with you and they're willing to buy something that's 20 bucks four times a year. I don't. What does that come out to? That's 200,000 times four.

So that's $800,000 a year. And that's only 10,000 fans. So think about how many people that follow you on instagram if you really had an intimate enough relationship where they cared about your content that much you could make eight hundred thousand dollars a year and they'd be more than happy to support that i said that that that's like take that in our cars like that's important to acknowledge right so it's like everybody's like i need need a million followers so you can sell fucking hair vitamins. No, you just need people who fuck with you.

Well, yeah, I don't know what the name of the model is in business, but it's our model. If you look at our raw numbers, it's not the craziest out there. But people are looking at our page. My homie, Doughboy, he got a podcast called Righteous and Ratchet, also doing very well on Patreon. And he said, I saw your Patreon on what it was doing. And then I was like, yo, we got to get on this. And then I asked him about his raw numbers. Double, triple hours.

Like his just regular episode. But we've cultivated a fan base of people that fuck with us. It's a family. It's different, right? It's like when somebody does, I noticed this, like when people do flagrant, like they get this pop on their podcast or their content. That's how you know. That's how you know. That's how you know it's real.

And then you go on certain shows. The reason there's a difference between the New York Times podcast and the Rogan podcast is you go on the Rogan podcast and then your life changes slightly or majorly afterwards. The New York Times one is like, okay, a lot of people listen to it, but they don't give a fuck. Yeah, you have like-minded people listening to a Joe Rogan podcast. He co-signs that this is funny or this is interesting, and they go listen the same way that you're going to co-sign someone else.

Boom. He's at the top of the pyramid, but everybody can kind of offer their own value to someone a little bit below. Yes. So you just got to keep climbing that shit. Yes. So how do we fix New York, Kev?

You and I have had extensive conversations about the New York comedy scene. Yeah, man, I think it's simple. I mean, the very first thing that I noticed is that the only time people were coming on the show was like, I got a book out, I got a special out, let me come do 15 minutes, and it's like, that's fine. But just come to, just sit down, do an hour, be funny,

just come to do it, and I'd love to do yours, and now fine. But just come to, just sit down and do an hour, be funny, just come to do it and I'd love to do yours and now, you know, my people think you're funny and your people think I'm funny and then we do it with his and his and his and that shit multiplies.

Just continue to show your talents rather than showcase whatever you're pushing in that moment. Don't sell. Yeah. Stop trying to pitch yourself. To fill people in who might not know, Andrew has been talking about

essentially doing what Rogan has done in LA, which is really kind of built up the comedy scene with comics that he thinks are funny. He gives them the platform. Andrew essentially wants to be East Coast Rogan, which is a noble thing. So that's what he's talking about with Kev right now. How do we do that here? Kev was trying to do the same thing. That was like the same idea that I had,

thinking that Barstool could be the East Coast Rogan, just to put him on to a whole network where, I mean, again, I'm reluctant to even say be the Rogan because it's like nobody can. You're just using the example. The model of like, yeah. That's who we aspire to be. How we look up to and like how we, most importantly, how we like can help other people have careers. Yeah, the way he kind of gives back. That's what I look at Rogan in the most.

I'm just like, wow, this guy has has given bro multiple people homes right like there are people paying mortgages off of rogan experience yes you know and like how do we do that for comics here how do we and i mean this together first thing i noticed is just like the you know i got my booker who does a great job telling me yeah he's gonna come in for 15 minutes i'm like give me a number man let me talk to you yeah no you become friends and you just come in to do it yeah you know hopefully return the favor and we're all funny i mean it's just it's it's a matter of uh getting outside the you know individual times you come on and think about the bigger picture.

And it's like when I was on yours, it's like I don't even know if I promoted the special at all. No, because no one's going to work. It doesn't do it. They'll go. They'll go. If it's good, they'll go. And especially that's where I hope that Barstool can be the difference maker because it's like I can say it on my podcast or hopefully we'll link to it on a social media account that has 4 million followers. When you can click right on it, that's where we hopefully will drive the people.

Just be funny. Put out a good product and hopefully the machine that is Barstool can take care of the rest. The internet has created much more of a meritocracy than anything before it. When it was gatekeepers, they pick who they like. They pick what sells ads. And if you get like blackballed, whatever, that's it.

You're fucked. Yeah. Yo, I think Instagram and I think Instagram's throttling my shit. Because I only, I don't know for certain, but like a clip will get maybe like 50,000 views and I'm grateful for it. But it will get like 700 comments. And comments are, again, that's the engagement that's like right so but you would think that at 7 800 comments like i look at other people's uh view count versus common count

and it's and it's like there'll be like 200 000 views going on here but like no comments they're either buying views or instagram is throttling your shit down it's interesting it's it's interesting i don't know I don't know. I don't know. I have to look into it. I mean, look, I'm grateful anybody watches anything, but there's this thing in me where I want to get what is deserved. Absolutely.

And there is a matter of if someone who just stumbles upon it sees 50,000 views, it's like, all right, that's interesting. You see someone do a quarter of a mil, 500,000, it's like, I have to follow this. That's the idea, but I would say this to you. I do think they're buying views also because not a lot of people are selling tickets like you're selling tickets. Yeah. The proof is in the pudding.

There we go. There's a different... There's the personal intimate engagement. Look, I'm creating content for my people. I'm creating content for the people that listen. It's not a big deal if they don't... What I just don't want is the idea that there's somebody conspiring or a company conspiring to hold something. Right. I'll open this up to, yeah, if you do the right thing.

Because it defeats the whole purpose of, like you were saying, the meritocracy. It's like, let it rip. If it's supposed to rip, it's ripping. Well, that's why, I mean, in a perfect world, eventually you get to a place where there's no third parties at all. Because it's like we were putting stuff on Facebook and it was getting a zillion views and then they changed the rules. And it's like, oh, well, now you can't say this or say that. Right.

You can't suppress that. It's like, all right, well, on to the next. And, you know, right now YouTube seems good, but until they switch up the game on you and then you- There will always be something else. Yeah. So if you, I mean, it's kind of impossible to get to a level where you don't need any social media platforms in this day and age.

But- Yes. We're going to get there But we started our subscription, Barstool Gold. It's like, it's all in-house. We control all of it. There are no rules.

There are no nothing. You got to pay a little bit of money, but that's because we're going to be saying whatever we want, doing whatever we want, and no rules to be played by. This is,

Andrew tends to see things pretty far in the future. I don't know that I'm seeing this correctly. One thing I think I see is the internet has cut out middlemen left and right. It used to be, so many people you knew, entire job was just they're a middleman remember an office space when they asked the guy like what do you do and he's

like why take the information from upstairs to downstairs like why can't they just do that themselves right so many people like that people would never give that up and now that they're useless exactly no no you give me that and i'll call him. And now the internet is just getting rid of those guys left and right. Agents and managers are all just middlemen. Somebody wants to call

and know the actor's not crazy so an agent basically is the co-sign. Hey, he's not insane. That's it. Now we don't need agents and managers as much. I think YouTube,

all this shit, that's a big ass middleman but we're going to find ways around all of it. Like you said, even the Patreon, at some point it might just be, hey, here's my app. This is my app.

We'll figure out how you find it. This is the whatever, the Barstool app. You pay a monthly fee, you get all the content on Barstool. We are just finding ways to own our own shit more and more and more. And as they throttle down more and more, cool, the advertisers are happy, but you are fucking yourself in the long run. That's the thing. Yeah, I agree with you like the companies that throttle hurt themselves because you know facebook lost a lot of great content that people really enjoyed because they changed it right and you know if youtube does it they're going to lose content as well the the reason why i'm so bullish on on youtube is because it's a search engine not because it's a platform it's

like if you're going, what happened to Darius Miles? You type that into YouTube a lot of times. Or what happened in this MMA fight? You type it into YouTube. So for me, it's people are trying to access information instead of going, I just would like to be entertained. So you can pop up in their life in that way.

Right, but I still feel like there's the rules to be played by where the algorithm will fucking throw you in and pop you out. And what's good right now is what YouTube, at least my basic understanding, what they want is aligned with what the content creator wants to do. You know what I mean? It's like make longer, more engaging, more retention. That's what we're trying to do anyway.

I don't feel like I'm selling out to make YouTube happy right now. The day that they decide that they want something like that, you've got to play by their rules. There will be something else. That's capitalism too. There will always be something else. My dad said that 15 years ago about Walmart. Everybody's saying they're getting too big. My dad said

when I moved to America, Sears was the same thing. Unstoppable. Everybody thought it was too big. Now it's dead. Something will come take Walmart. And it was Amazon. And now people are freaking out. Something will take Amazon. YouTube, something will take you. It's just the fucking way this country works.

It's the way business in this country works. It's a life cycle of business. Yeah. It's crazy to even think about, but I believe it, man. Yeah. It's a constant game of stuff. That was interesting. We tried it years ago when I just had my podcast. Yeah, it's a content game. That direct subscription shit, though, is interesting. We tried it years ago when I just had my podcast.

We did a dollar a month, so it was like real small commitment. Yeah. And we just offered like one extra podcast, some video aspect of the one that we put out, and it was just – It's almost too small. It basically paid – yeah, I mean that was very just within Barstool. We just did it on our own, and we had our own app,

and it basically kept the dues that we had to pay for the app running. But it was interesting to watch. When we really weren't that big, there was a few thousand people that were like, yeah, I'll break you off a dollar. And it's like, okay. You know what's interesting that we've learned is if you're willing to pay a dollar, you're willing to pay five. Yeah, right.

But where do you stop? Well, that's the thing. It's like you're accessing – what we realize is you're accessing people that are incredibly appreciative and grateful for the content, but also it serves a part of their life. Like there's for a two-hour chunk of their workday, they get to enjoy and have some laughs and feel distracted. Worth the money. they get to enjoy and have some laughs and feel distracted. So the money. Yeah. Yeah.

Like for them between one and five, there's zero difference in terms of that value. Right. And that's something that, you know, when we were putting up the tears, we were like, yeah,

you have to, you have to do five because one, we want this to blow up. Like so many people know about our podcast just because of how successful our Patreon was. And it's the dollar amount they always notice that's why dope boy called me dollar amount i had a little yeah exactly right and i had a little i was doing a bobby kelly's meaning it's like affordable like that no they see how much we're grossing every month oh god and they're

like oh and that's why they assume our i chose to leave yeah yeah we they're like no no i was like no leave it on and um because i understand like people are motivated by their own survival right it's like i was on bobby kelly's podcast and and there was a few comics on and uh we were No, no, no. I was like, no, leave it on. Because I understand people are motivated by their own survival, right? It's like I was on Bobby Kelly's podcast, and there was a few comics on, and we were talking about Patreon or something like that. And I had a little experiment. And I was like, yeah, I'm trying to give you guys advice here. And they weren't really listening.

And I was like, just go to my Patreon. And then they saw how much we were making on the Patreon. Oh, okay. And immediately it's like, well, what should we do this at the end? And I remember taking out a caution. I was like, I just dropped how much we make making on the patreon oh okay and immediately it's like well what should we do this at the end and i and i remember taking out caution i was like i just dropped how much we make on the patreon today i want to see how long it takes before i start getting hearing about it from the other comics i literally go downstairs to the cellar and norman comes up to me this is 10 minutes after doing a podcast and he's like bro i just heard what you guys are making on the page and i was like i knew it because at the end of the day, survival is what motivates people, right?

To be fair, we heard about Patreon through Comptown. Those are all good dudes, funny comics. But we heard how much they're making on the Patreon. We were like, what the fuck? Yeah. For even us. Yeah, it's time to turn heads. And I made sure and we've made sure all of our goals are patron aligned.

We want the patrons. The money is great. I was broke before, so it's great to have it patron aligned we want the patrons the money is great i was broke before so it's great to have it it's about the patrons but i've even noticed with me who didn't have an agent didn't have a manager some agent came up to me last week no bullshit and he was like you know i got this audition for you i heard you got this huge podcast everything and i'm like all right i guess but like you just feel the shift around the dollar amount it that there are a few things people realize.

The sharks start fucking swirling. Besides that, that's definitely the agents. But even your contemporaries will see salvation within you. The other thing I've noticed is the people who support you, they want to be part of a winning team. They want you to have the chip. They want that number to be higher. Yeah, because they reflect. It's like, yo, I'm part of that. That's where it went.

When you get people who ride for you and they want it. We see that all the time when somebody comes have the chip. They want that number to be higher. Yeah, because they reflect. It's like, yo, I'm part of that. That's where, when you get people who ride for you and they like, we see that all the time when somebody comes from the outside. Like, we're all competitive and bullshit with each other. We have our rivalries in-house. But somebody comes from the outside

and starts throwing rocks at the throne and all of a sudden, everybody falls in line. All the fans are like, fuck that. Nobody's coming. The same guys who two minutes earlier were trashing me were like,

whoa, wait a minute. I can make fun of him. I'll fuck with this guy, but not you. It's family. The same guys who two minutes earlier were trashing me were like, whoa, wait a minute. I can make fun of him. I'll fuck with this guy, but not you. It's family. It's very family. The fans are very family-oriented, and we made all the tears as well. And we're seeing a lot of people who are choosing the highest one because it's a good offering.

The money makes sense for what you get, but it's also like a thank you or we want this to be as big as possible so fuck yeah oftentimes we're so grateful that we have people listening to us i think one of the like the the trickiest thing is an overcoming overcoming like fame we'll just call it fame but like is understanding that you're giving someone value yeah it's a weird i still don't believe it sometimes and i feel like you have a very good grasp on it where you're giving someone value. Yeah, it's so weird. I still don't believe it sometimes. I feel like you have a very good grasp on it where you're just like, yeah, no, I know what the fuck I'm talking about.

I know I'm funny, and I know I got a better grasp on things than the next guy does. And sometimes I'm like, do I? I'm constantly in my own head. Yeah. Do they really? I am very much a guy who I wake up and I'm like, maybe today is the day that the internet just stops thinking I'm funny

or the internet doesn't give me the good let it motivate you yeah yeah like yeah I mean I think we all need that insecurity to get better like you need the confidence to do and the insecurity to improve yeah right right like that balance but you wouldn't be doing if you didn't feel like you had a competitive advantage in the world it was like to go back to like there was a time before I was at Barstool, I was doing it. I was an accountant, and I was just doing it to do it, like, straight up with the game. And how much fun was it?

It was the most fun. Best. Yeah, yeah. I would be, like, I'd come home, I'm, like, 23, maybe 24, and, like, buddies, like, doing whatever, and I'm just blogging. And they're, like, for what, you know? Because you loved it. And at that point, it was, like, a couple hundred people. But I was, like, it's fun.

Because it wasn't about the outcome. Yes. It was about the act. I said whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted, and I liked doing it. And so there is something intangible. And then even when we did start at Barstool, it was like, yes, if I write more and I write funnier and the clicks go up, the ads go up, the money goes higher, whatever, fine. But it was like, I want to be the first person to blog about this. I want to find that story first and put that up because it was a competitive like sports type of thing to me where it's like i want to be the best at it if you don't have that mindset you're fucked there's a

one thing real quick there's there's a uh i i started a kickboxing recently right i go to this place called tiger shulman's kickboxing thing oh yeah and uh you know tiger and um and they have belts in kickboxing right and the better you, you get like these different colored belts and you get the straps. And I don't wear a belt. And I don't want a belt. And it's because I just want to enjoy kickboxing. Right, you're not there to climb the ranks there. Right, I don't want to put the outcome.

My whole life is being judged. Yes. Based on everything we do on stage, our work, the podcast, et cetera. It's nice to have one thing where it's like blogging back in the day for you when you had your regular job. You're like- I just want to do it. I just want to do it.

I just want to learn how to fucking do this roundhouse kick or whatever the fuck it is. Good, bad, whatever. I don't care where I fall. I just want to do it. If they want to give me belts, okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's truly not-

I want to try to be a black belt. Look, if you give me cool, if I stay a white belt, it doesn't matter to me. I'm just not going to allow myself to make it about the belt because I know it will take a little bit of the joy. Right. Why do I want to. It becomes work then. Yes. It makes it work with pleasure sort of thing.

Exactly. Sorry, what were you saying, Anka? Well, this kind of ties into that and what you were saying. Also, what you were saying earlier when you had the most fun and you weren't making money. When I was going broke and we were doing this podcast, I'm legit losing my fucking apartment. But this was the most fun it's ever been. And I think I'm just now starting to get back to how fun it was then. Right.

Because it was like, not only is there no expectation that this... I knew long term this is going to be a lucrative thing. But this was my break. You're 23. You got your work. You got your relationship. Whatever you got. no expectation that this, I knew long term, this is gonna be a lucrative thing, but I also, this was my break. You're 23, you got your work, you got your relationship, whatever you got.

When you come here, all that shit goes away. All my financial trouble is gone. And then, once the money came in, then it's like, oh fuck, I gotta give them their money's worth.

There's an outcome now, and I gotta, now there's a performance I have to meet, and there was a pressure that came with that. Definitely. And only now, kind of talking to Andrew, and even just like, that has helped, and just being kind of talking to Andrew and even just like that has helped

and just being like okay well just you have to trust your instinct and then don't be tied to whatever just have fun and then everything will follow but yeah that kind of ties into that the confidence to be like I mean I hit a point where I realized just with my takes that I was like enough people agree with basically my

gut every time like I read a news story and I'm like fuck that person and that's my take there's enough people that are basically my gut every time. Like I read a news story and I'm like, fuck that person. And that's my take. There's enough people that are like, yeah, fuck that person. Or, hey, this thing, I like that. And there's enough people, you know, you're not going to please everybody. And actually a lot of times I feel like I am one of the more controversial people who I'll speak out against it.

But there's enough people who agree with almost all of my opinions at some point that I know enough people will click on it or continue to follow or whatever. When you accept that about yourself, like I'm funny enough or I'm interesting enough or I'm like-minded enough. It's very powerful. It's hard to get there.

I don't know if I'll ever fully... I feel like he is just like... You've got like comedy mokeshot going on right now. He's in a, he's in his, he's in his fucking zone. It's beautiful to see

and it's like, I sometimes wonder if I was, if it was just like my podcast, if I think if I was at the level I'm at with just my operation and my guys,

I would probably be a lot more comfortable like you are now. What do you mean by that? Like, because there's just so much natural competition at Barstool

and there's so many other people and a new podcast starts and that shoots up and I'm like, oh, man, maybe I should be doing more like what they're doing because it's like right next door. It's right there. Whereas if it was just my podcast, I'd be like, oh, that's cool. That guy succeeded, but I don't need to do that. But when you see directly like these same salespeople that are selling this are now selling the shit out of that. And the same people who are watching and clicking there are clicking this. I'm like, maybe I should be doing more of that or whatever. It just naturally breeds more thought.

What if another podcast just gets more popular and just has more viewers? Yeah, I mean, that's basically like – I'll use the bathroom. That's why I walk away. But go on. Our podcast was first like we started it yeah and then and then part of my take comes in and they're just like one of the biggest on the internet right and that's definitely like a oh shit you know maybe we should be doing more of like what they do and they're they that they're the guys i use is the example of like they did it 24 hours a day you know what i mean

they never stopped so it was like that's why they're who they are yeah but um you know it's good for business on like uh you know i'm i've been here from the beginning and like an equity owner like yeah let's fucking blow this all up but on an individual level it's like well i want mine to be the best you know right and so there's there but maybe it is competition and hunger i mean i'm sure to some people it is you know what i mean so that's like i feel like enough people are you know aligned with ours that I'm comfortable with it. But I'm always going to be enough of a – there's always more. You know what I mean? I don't ever want to rest on my laurels.

But I do want to – you've got to give yourself some credit. You've got to let yourself know. Because yours is the best to some people. Right. Right. And then I guess the question becomes how many people does it need to be the best two for you to feel like yeah and how many do you think i don't i don't know if there is a number well so that's the answer right there like if there's if it's an infinite amount because because well i'll tell you right now if i if i the numbers that i'm getting now if i got

like 10 years ago i would i would be like that's all i need to be super happy to be the ultimate success you know so i think it always just kind of continues what about this let's say you had like 10 years ago, I would have been like, that's all I need to be super happy, to be the ultimate success. So I think it always just kind of continues to grow. Well, what about this? Let's say you had the biggest podcast on Barstool, right? Then you're going to be looking at Rogan like, well, we don't have Rogans. Right, there's always somebody, unless you're Rogan.

Unless you're Rogan, right? Unless you get to the top. And then you're always going to be looking at something else. Well, I think there's definitely within the Barstool bubble, we think it's the end-all, be-all. It's popular and we're doing well, so if you're the best at that, for sure, you're killing it. But there's always somebody bigger.

And then you get to the biggest podcasts, and there are Hollywood actors and TV actors like, fuck a podcast. There's always an art form that's higher and bigger and more lucrative. So it's a shitty thing to chase. It's like if you're creating something. But I also think the chase is what keeps you going.

See, I thought that. I thought that. And then I found out. That it's just the satisfaction of doing it. Yeah, like your blog. If you really love it, you're just going to do it because you fucking love it. And I feel like you'd be doing the same thing because you love it. Well, and that's where I think if it was just my show, we were out on our own, it would be like there are no rules.

There are no bosses. There's no nothing. Right. You can say whatever you want. Let's be comfortable with each other. Like, you know, it definitely becomes more about that. So I guess you're right. But I do think that there's a practical business side to all this shit where it's like –

100%. Chase the views or the downloads or whatever because you make more money and that's good. And there is a business capitalistic side to it that I think you can't get too hippy-dippy about it. It's just about having fun. We got to pay bills. We have people that rely on us. There is a monetary thing that everybody wants,

nice clothes and nice shit and stuff like that. The question is, at what point beyond that threshold does shit matter? Right. So we all recognize we need a threshold. Maybe it's a quarter million a year. Maybe it's half a million a year. Maybe it's 10 million a year. You never know what it is for you.

Yeah, it all varies. But after that is the question, right? If you're making, let's say you're making 20 million a year and you're still upset that this other podcast has 20,000 more listens a month, I'm like, Kevin, shut the fuck up. Right. It's good. Are you kidding me Kevin, shut the fuck up. Right. It's good. Are you kidding me? Yeah, you're good.

Like everything's good. Right. So I guess that's how I kind of look at stuff. And my number is not that high. The only reason I want to bring in more is so I can just expand this and just do more and create more. and create more and and uh but but yeah man like the idea that that your podcast is is the best already is is so true because i know from from even doing it and having like so many people tweet out and just talking about how much they love your podcast like i have people tell me that listen to this and they were like yo my my podcast worlds are colliding yeah that's the best feeling that's

the best feeling like oh fuck like, oh, fuck. Yes, yes, yes. And that's when I know – I feel like when I have certain guests on, I know – like I remember him coming in and I was like, shit is about to go down. You know what I mean? Like clear the schedule. We're going to make this a standalone episode. Right, right. We're not going to put anything else around it because you know when someone is coming in that's like this person gets it or the fans are really going to like this.

And you know which ones are there for just publicity. Go listen to that up. It was a good one, and I gave a couple new premises that I'm going to be trying out, and I usually don't give that out. But for whatever reason, the live was right. The white privilege one is the funniest. Yeah, there could be some shit out there. That was very funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a good one. And it worked better just talking with you guys, because that's what happens like like akash and i will this will happen all the time we'll just be riffing and for whatever reason the environment you know enables back yeah just being around like i always say it's about that's what we that's what i want with the new york scene it's like you will become funnier and better if you're doing we got to get them money riffing and we got to get them we got to find a way for where they can make money because it is the reason la is comfortable exactly the reason LA is so good is because they can eat and they're comfortable.

And New York is the beauty of New York is also the destruction of it. You can make money being a stand-up here. Yeah. Barely. Right. But you can make a living. So now you got guys that are making a living doing stand-up but they're fighting tooth and nail yeah to keep everyone out yeah i need that stage time i need a fan you know nobody's

going oh gosh i gotta recommend you at at blah blah club because they're like he still needs it yeah i i need those spots yeah i need my little 25 i need my 40 whatever yeah and la you can't make a fucking living out there doing stand-up. Everyone has to do something else. Yeah. And they started making a living doing that other thing. So stand-up got, it became your blog. Right. Stand-up became this thing.

I'm just doing it for the passion. Right. And then it's funnier and better. Yeah. So that's a problem we got to solve here. And we just got to empower these comics. But we also got to choose the right ones because yeah i know well that's i mean you can talk about working hard and all that shit is all

very true but it also comes down to talent it's like talent and also worthiness like a guy and you got to work you know are these people worthy of of the help you know like there's certain people that don't have the the constitution to be helped right you just can see it in their eyes the second you help them they're gonna and they get the opportunity, they're going to fucking stab you. Mm-hmm. Right? So it's like-

Yeah, like, are you going to turn around and try to give back to the next person? Are you going to continue this? Right. I would love to help you. Yeah. Will you help other people? Yeah. Will you carry this forward?

Yes! That's probably, unfortunately, a very small number. Very small. Yeah. To be funny, and hardworking enough, and, and, and, and, and, and then the last one would be like unselfish, that number is probably like single fucking digits at any given moment. So we got to find the nine people. Right.

Right, right, right. We got to find the nine people and help them. I don't want to keep you here all day, Kev. Is there anything else we could- Doing it forever, yeah. We could tell the people about? No, I mean- They've probably already started watching Answer the Internet from the beginning of this podcast.

Yeah, that was a big push. I appreciate that, man. Dude, it's so good. That's my new crack right now. I used to count, like, you know, page view visits when I had my blog back in the day, and then I worried about Twitter followers, and now, like, my new thing is I'm watching views and subscribers rack up on YouTube because we are embarrassingly late to the YouTube game. So, like, this is the first page we're really having.

So, yeah, answer the internet on YouTube, KFC Radio on iTunes, Spotify. Go subscribe. And, you know, BarstoolSports.com is where you can catch all the writing. It's me and a whole network of funny fucking guys and girls. Yeah, we've had a bunch of them on, man. We've had a bunch of them on. But I'm telling you, start with some of the answer to the internet and get in a wormhole. It's easy and digestible. I really think the best guests we've had have been Barstool guests. And we've had good guests. them on, but I'm telling you, start with some of the answer to the internet and get in a wormhole. It's easy and digestible.

I really think the best guests we've had have been Barstool guests. And we've had good guests. I'm not knocking anybody. Dude, who did we have? Willie? We had recently Willie killed it. Francis killed it. You?

Yeah. I think I told you this. We had an African dish. It was Jolof. It was this African rice dish. We had a challenge, and then I got the whitest guy I know, which is Francis, to come in and decide which one was the best. No doubt. whitest guy i know which is francis to come in for sure the whitest guy no doubt but yeah i mean we try to hire people who are you know talented and work hard all that shit we've talked about

but also that like just kind of get it you know it's like a type of guy you'd want to just sit down and talk with or have a beer with i'm not going to take yourself too seriously and all that shit barstool yeah barstool sports it's a brilliant name sit about sitting on the barstool with your with your buddies yeah and uh and now like said, the girls are in the mix too. Dude, those girls are blowing up, man. Huge. A lot of different shows within the girls have their own barstool now. What are those?

Call Her Daddy are on another. They're on a fucking rocket ship. Chicks in the office are doing the E! News type of model, like the celebrity gossip, and they're blowing up. The brunette, Sophia, right? We were texting a little bit. Oh, were you? Yeah.

Okay, which one? This is the brunette. How did this come about? What's her last name? I think we met on Raya or something like that. I'm not exactly sure. Oh, okay. Got it, got it.

Date this date. And I was kind of like dating somebody else, so it wasn't really maybe as responsive. Still on Raya, though. Yeah, going you know you know you dated and you're like okay where will this go that make sense yeah yeah um there's some girls there right now he was no for sure for sure they're on riot too sometimes the girl that I'm taking I see on about oh it's both of us bitch okay I see how this is going yeah you like man to go even I'm just a fucking thing yeah no I see you

all right like-minded ass bitch I'm here she think like I think you're in a bar at like noon you're like who's fucking degener, how dare she? Think like me, ass bitch. That's like when you're in a bar at noon, and you're like, who are these fucking degenerates? You're at a job. You're at the bar. Give me two more. You're in the same fucking place, man. I had a moment that's somewhat related to that.

Oh, fuck. I was watching UFC, right? And I'm watching it, and these guys are trying to pound each other's fucking heads. You know what I mean? And they're just going at it. Just beating the shit out of each other. Kicking each other in the fucking face. Elbowing each other in the fucking head, right?

And then, I'm just stoked. I'm into it. I'm so stoked. And then, one guy hits the other guy flush and just knocks him clean out. He's on the ground, totally passed out. And then gets on him and then starts punching him while he's passed out. And immediately I'm like, what kind of animal would do this? This disgusting savage.

How dare you push this guy in the face? And I found where, like, my morality kicks in with violence. That's it. That's the line. There's a line. How dare this human cockfighting who's been revved up and thrown into the ring. How dare he take it too far. But there's a line. There's a line. Every YouTube I've ever watched

where someone's out cold on the pavement and they're just fucking hitting their face. That's it. I can't do it. I'll watch the knockouts. I'll watch the big hit. But once it's like a lifeless body, you're a savage. You're running up the score. Yeah, exactly. You're running up the score.

Pull the starters. Fan us over. Yeah, yup, yup. Real talk, man. There's something. But maybe it's like evolutionary. Maybe it's like evolutionary. Yeah.

It's an evolutionary reaction. Maybe that's why we pass out from a concussion because the person seeing us knocked out, I can't punch someone who's passed out. Now, they're wired a little different, right? They're wired for that kind of violence when they're in the ring. But I think the average person sees someone get knocked out and then just goes. Oh, I want. Yeah. Yeah.

I would hope. Shit. I'm saying if you're trying to get out of a fight. Fighting a survivor. Just knock out real quick. Like the first touch. Have a seizure, man. Shout out to my epileptics.

Guys, let's wrap it up here. I really appreciate it, man. Give them everything. That was very funny shit. Of course, man. Thanks so much for coming on. We've got to have you back on, but tell us all the places where they can find you. Yeah, answer the internet on YouTube and Barstool Sports on YouTube, KFC Radio on iTunes, Spotify,

anywhere you can listen. Follow me on Twitter at KFC Barstool, and the website is just Barstool Sports on YouTube KFC Radio on iTunes Spotify anywhere you can listen follow me on Twitter at KFC Barstool and the website is just BarstoolSports.com beautiful that's everything

yo I'm headlining we're gonna do shows in the beginning so they already know we've done the shows in the beginning but is there anything else

you want to nah come through the shows Doug Houston April 18th and then Carolines April 26th

and 27th just do it again I guess it's fine yeah no I'm saying I'm just reiterating alright then there's gonna beth and 27th in New York. I said we're going to do shows in the beginning. Just do it again, I guess. Yeah, no, I'm saying, I'm just reiterating. All right,

man. There's going to be more info up top. Okay, word. Guys, thank you so much. Thank you guys so much

for listening. Man, go check out my boy Kev and yeah, this has been Flavor 2. Keep it tight. Peace.