Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Israel Adesanya on Mushrooms, Partying with Drake, and doing Stand-up Comedy
Episode Date: June 13, 2023Whats up people, we got THE CHAMP in the building Israel "Stylebender" Adesanya. We talk about what its like partying with Drake at the OVO mansion, why he wants to drop a rap album/ try stand up come...dy, his saga with Alex Pereira, fighting Logan Paul and MORE. This is a legendary episode. ENJOY. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Being happiest KOing Pereira 04:33 Israel’s perfect archery 07:30 Wanting to party with Izzy 12:18 Israel trolling Pereira’s son 14:10 Respect for Pereira + fight breakdown 22:14 Processing the public + Self-awareness 33:45 Akaash’s Special Filming: Houston! 34:20 Your authentic self + UFC mystery time 42:54 Pereira’s leg kick + will Izzy fight Alex again 47:51 Tyson Fury v Jon Jones + manhandling beefy men 53:36 Israel Speaks on Du Plessis + We’re all African 01:00:24 Diamond been around 01:06:11 Izzy’s view on Francis Ngannou + fighter pay 01:14:31 Fighters have a different aura + Revealing OVO Drake parties 01:18:44 Izzy is RAPPING 01:27:19 Alexx’s Blackness + Parents aren’t impressed 01:34:10 MARK RAPPING 01:39:27 Israel Does Stand Up 01:46:03 Life is beautiful + early Flagrant days + the Future 01:57:54 Akaash is WILD 02:05:02 Diamond weird striking helps 02:06:07 Karaoake and the afters was great + Alexx isn’t a snitch 02:08:48 Ash joins the pod + Get on your back and wet up 02:13:15 Izzy is a happy drinker + Static + King of the Ring 02:19:20 Craig Jones is hilarious 02:29:53 Izzy v Jon Jones 02:34:46 Memories from Puerto Rico 02:36:23 Jollof rice is NIGERIAN + GOAT 02:46:26 What is a performance enhancer? 02:48:40 Andrew’s smoke rings + how much has changed in 5 years 02:51:51 Izzy turning down Movies + you’ll miss me when I’m gone 02:56:22 Be respectful + interacting with the public 03:01:07 What’s next for Izzy? Understanding motivation 03:08:15 Tapping into Nigerian culture 03:12:24 Entering the flow state + cynicism is for the weak
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What's up everybody, welcome to flagrant and you know who we got in the mother f***ing building is the champ. The champ is here
Okay, listen I've been waiting months to ask you this
Months to ask you this. You said in the ring when you got the mic from Rogan, which is rare
I don't know how you got that mic from him. Shout out to Joe for giving it to you
I think he understood what that moment was for you.
But also, it could have gone slightly. Imagine
if I was one of these dudes and I grabbed the mic and I was just like,
I don't know,
bleep this.
And they're like in the truck like, get him
off, get him off. And Joe's like,
you would have gotten so many new fans.
But like, you know, it could have gone either way.
So for him to give me the mic, and the thing is, so when, how it happens is like when I'm in the shower,
this is, I've always said, the most honest place in the world.
I was visualizing, I visualized so much.
I'll be visualizing in the shower too.
And I have to.
Probably different things though.
Yeah, I mean, so do I.
But you know, for fighting, when I do, it's like, I feel everything.
And I remember being so happy while I was visualizing.
I was just like feeling so happy after the fight.
Like when I visualize the win,
I visualize the knockout,
I visualize the press conference, post-fight, pre-fight,
fight week, it just goes, it's like Tourette's.
I can't help it.
I've just, I'm using that.
That's how I manifest.
I use my imagination.
So when I was visualizing, I just remember being so happy.
I might've been on shrooms in that shower, but as I was visualizing, I was so happy.
And I was like, man, I just want everyone to feel how happy I am right now.
Just once.
You said that.
That's all I wanted to say.
And everything else just came from player one.
And I just, like a vessel.
And I just, like, I feel like a rapper.
I was literally just flowing.
And when I'm in that flow states, it just happens.
Describe the feeling.
Because you said it, and it felt like you meant it.
It didn't feel like it was prepared.
It felt like in that moment, I wish you could feel what I'm feeling.
Have you ever felt that happy in your entire life, childhood included?
Yeah, I have.
What moments?
Great question.
That's a good one.
Okay.
I want to see if I can say.
Let me see.
Okay, one recent one.
Recent one.
Let me think.
When I got Cinderue, my cat, rest in peace.
The day I got her, I was so happy.
So happy.
I used to have this little front pack.
I'll put her in it.
We'll go for walks and things like that.
I felt happy like that many times in my life, but
for that moment, that's
top five, top ten, one of the greatest
moments of my career in my life. Izzy, I know
you did not just compare
knocking out Pereira to
buying a new fucking cat.
I got a cat.
Cat that you need.
He didn't prepare for that.
You need more time.
I've been waiting He didn't prepare for that. He had to shower. You need more time to shower.
I've been waiting months to ask this question.
I'm not going to ask him online.
I need to know in person.
It's relative.
It's relative.
So for me, that moment was awesome.
And I just want everyone to feel it.
I feel like those who don't like it. So either train for decades or buy a cat.
Either one.
Either one.
It's all perspective. It's relative.
Pussy's pussy, bro.
That's what it is.
But yeah, for me, it was like
I just, so when I'm
two seconds, when I
when I was in that moment, I just
those who don't like me, they'd be watching
that fight and be like, yes.
I've seen so many reactions. I watch so many reaction
videos and I'm like, yes
Finally again, it's gonna happen again. And then oh shit. Hmm example. So who know so it was
Oh, oh people who love me. They're like, oh no is against the fence again. Oh, no
The contrast those two feelings and I felt like those who really loved me felt the happiness in that moment, bro
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
The whole building woke up.
I mean, it was
just insane. It was just
in fucking... I don't know why I went
to the TV.
I don't know why it's a weird
reaction. You go closer
to the thing.
And you go, slave!
Slave! I was in someone
else's house and I just started jumping up and down.
Crazy. And we got
neighbors here.
You can't just jump up and down.
Bro, it was just so unbelievable.
And it was exactly what you described. I was scared.
And then when you flipped
it, all that went to sheer joy.
I legit was screaming. My wife was like, dude, people, neighbors are going to think you're, like, beating me the way you are.
Like, this is crazy.
My dog was shaking.
It was, like, fucking crazy.
Bro.
And the arrows.
Perfect.
Oh, my God.
Just from an improv perspective, I mean, you pulled out the whole quiver.
Oh, that was planned.
And then you shot.
You've been waiting to shoot arrows at that motherfucker for years.
As a dancer, as a dancer, like, even with Crump,
we have characters sometimes where we just, like,
we bring on the dance floor, you try and, like, emulate.
So that helps me be able to create moments like that.
And I remember telling the referee, shout out to,
what's his name, Dan Mergliata,
because when he comes and gives you the rules,
I just remember, bro, if and when I sleep this dude,
I just need you to let me have my moment.
I won't touch him.
You've said that to him before the fight?
Yeah.
That's so amazing.
Yeah, I told Dan.
I was like, let me have my moment.
It gives me chills, dude.
We need that video.
We need that video.
I think he would have filmed it.
Yeah, so I was like, if and when I sleep him, just let me have my moment because I've been waiting how many years for this?
I said it last time in New York as well, but it wasn't my moment then.
It was his moment.
Great story for him, but I was like, let me have my moment just but it wasn't my moment then it was his moment great story for him
but I was like
let me have my moment
just cause I won't touch him
I won't hurt him
he'll be there
but just let me have my moment
cause I've been waiting
so long to soak this up
and Jeff's got a cool
photo of me like
yeah
just like
in my head
rehearsing it
how long
how long has Jeff
been filming you?
for life
nah he's buried
20
2016
so what is that now?
it's like a year in his MMA debut.
Eight years, something like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know Jane Goodall?
You said it.
You said it.
Anyway, we don't get to a tripod one of these years, bro.
It's been eight years.
This guy's been holding a camera like this with his arms shaking for eight fucking years.
He's got a tennis elbow.
And he refuses to get up.
Ass rolls get up.
Hey, bring that camera back up.
What the fuck are you doing?
Fun fact, this nigga won $50,000 off a $25 bet.
What?
Wow.
On what?
Yesterday.
Yeah.
Oh, I thought on you.
Nah, nah, nah.
I thought you got some insider training.
I'm going to get knocked out of New York.
Jeff, I'm not going to pay for you, but I'm going down to the fifth.
Let's go.
Oh, that's what happened to the fifth.
We're going to get the gimbal.
But he's been following me around for a long time.
And even with the film and stuff, he got a lot of the raw footage.
And I can be myself around him. And I say Jane Goodall. He studies me because he's seen me with so film and stuff, he got a lot of the raw footage, and I can be myself around him.
And I say Jane Goodall, like he studies me
because he's seen me with so many different situations,
so many different fans, and he knows my go-to lines sometimes.
You know when I have to, you know, like,
NPC these people because they give me the same energy back.
But, yeah, I can be myself around him.
He knows when to film me.
He knows when not to film me.
He knows when to, like, be a fly on the wall,
a big-ass fly on the wall.
He knows how to catch certain moments, and that's why.
That's why the documentary is fire.
Yeah.
I saw the documentary last night.
It was incredible, and I want to talk about it later.
But there's still this moment in your life that is obviously pivotal to you.
But there's times where I don't know how big a deal it is for you, right?
Like when you came here after the loss, you really taught me how to lose and deal with loss.
You know, and I mean that sincerely.
I'm very grateful for that.
So when you got the victory, I saw the joy.
But there was also part of me that was like, well, he was fine after the loss.
Is he fine after the victory?
Is it sweet?
Like tell me, I remember like tell me I remember texting
I remember texting you I remember texting the boys and I almost and I couldn't be there
But you know why but I literally was almost like I'm about to fly down. I was crazy
To Miami Monday line that up as a podcast. Yeah, I know we tried and also even like a lot of people tried
but then for me, I just wanted to I
Told the boys I, fuck the podcast.
I want to go party.
I was in Miami.
Because I knew it was going to be crazy.
So I finished work around, say, 1.30 a.m.
Got to the Sunday morning, 1.30 a.m.
Got to the club around 2.
11.
Tim.
Yeah, club 11.
Shit was crazy.
It was packed.
Even OBJ pulled up, said what's up.
Everyone else, you know, the Nelk boys, Mike, all these other different people
as well. Chuck Liddell and Tito on fucking stage. Adekule Gold, Michael Venn and Paige,
Kamaru Usman were just hanging out. It was a vibe. And then I didn't sleep until about
maybe 4 p.m. because I was just up and I just started to fight a little bit with my coaches.
And then Sunday night, Tootsies upstairs, shoulder rubs, had to.
And there was even a point.
I bet there was a point.
How many arrows you shoot that?
Well, I mean, the thing is like, put it this way.
I told one of these.
A few Brazilians went down to Miami.
Hey, man. Hey. Well, they went down, but I couldn't go up,
put it that way.
You can tell.
But what was it about?
It's because I was just so excited.
Actually, I told a dancer that I was like,
I'm just so excited with my life, like, right now.
A dancer.
You're adorable.
Yeah.
He's a dancer, too.
He's an actual dancer.
What's that?
A dancer.
What, she was humping on you?
Yeah. She tried. She tried. You were thinking that flow state thing. Yeah. He's a dancer too. He's an actual dancer. What's that, a dancer?
Was she humping on you?
Yeah.
She tried, she tried.
You're in that flow state though.
No, but like, so it was a point,
you know, you get a lap dance or whatever,
but at one point I was just like,
you think you conquered the world, you wanna do this,
but I was just like,
this is not even exciting to me right now.
I was like, my life is so exciting,
that's why I'm just, this, it's not you, it's me.
I'm just, life is so. Oh it's me. I'm just life itself.
So you weren't bricky for her and she got upset?
No.
No, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.
There's something here.
Oh Ash, Ash, shut the fuck up Ash.
Ash, bro, get a camera on Ash.
Ash is the wildest human being on the planet
and he just went like this.
But I think he's going, tell the story about
when they both suck.
No, but like,
yeah, so for me,
I was like,
my life is so exciting right now
that this is not,
you think this is what you want to do,
what you're supposed to do,
but I was like,
yeah, it's cool to be at Tootsies.
It's an iconic sport,
but I was like,
this ain't even it right now.
Like, my life is so exciting
that this is not doing it for me.
Yeah.
So that night,
after Sunday night, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I stayed in my room.
I just chilled in my room, was on my phone a lot.
I was farming, because again, if you don't understand the numbers game, you gotta run
the numbers up.
What does that mean?
You do something crazy like that, I know what it's like, my Instagram, socials, all that
kind of stuff is going up.
So when these new companies want to see the insights
Oh, you're calculating the reaction. Yeah, so I'm also my phone just farming and I had so many memes
I have so many clips. I have so many things. I wanted to say I had receipts
So, you know, I'm farming and when they are posting a lot more
Can we see the insights for the last two months?
Numbers is up the money's up. So people think all you're posting too much. I'll get over it's only
I'm like nigga. It was only like two days ago.
I'm going to post as much.
There's no rules to this internet shit.
So I was posting, I was farming.
Tell Eugene that shit.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I do.
He understands it, but he doesn't like it.
There's a great moment in the documentary about that civil touch-up later.
But yeah, I'm farming, I'm making money.
And Wednesday, I get back home.
Get home.
First thing I do, I go go see my teammates say thank you
Because they put so much work into me even leaving the gym to go to that fight whenever I leave the gym the last
Like day when I turn around and bow and I leave the gym. I just like this is a thing of like
Like we're about to go to war
So I go back to say thank you to my teammates
Then I go grab my dog, Toothless, and I take my shoes off, go to the park with her because she don't give a fuck who Stylebender is.
She's like, that's my boy.
What's up?
And anyone that tried to say what's up, I say what's up.
Any photos, I'm like, I'm just chilling, man.
Thank you.
I'm just hanging out with my dog.
Hang out with her for two days.
And then that's my way of trying to like come back down to my reality, just base, balance myself,
ground myself.
Before you get there, I need to know what's happening when you're alone in the
hotel room reflecting.
Just take me through-
I got an Airbnb now, because these five-dollar hotels get crazy.
Okay.
Can we go back two nights before that?
You improv this.
Oh, that, yeah.
At what point do you look at Pereira's son and you're like, this little motherfucker.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was payback.
That's just iconic.
I didn't even hesitate.
Literally, it was just like visualization, man.
I've been hearing that in my brain.
It just happened.
I was like, right.
Was it three for a reason?
Was it three for the three times he got you?
It just happened.
Now it is.
When it happened, I was like, it is.
But when you get to the cage, you can see everything.
So hyper aware.
I can see literally the nosebleeds.
I can see where Trump was, Mike Tyson, Kid Rock, Dana White.
And I knew where his family was.
And then straight away, I was like, where's that little?
And then I remember his sister was trying to, because they were crying.
And his sister was trying to shield them. And and sister was trying to shield them and I was like
He looked at me. I just ran
He got it straight away
If my son did that
To someone I got I knocked out. I just what are you doing? Come on, man
Like I'm making him apologize and I'll make him He did it in the ring, too. Yeah.
That's why I'm right in there.
While you were asleep.
Yeah.
So I was like, what the fuck?
So for me, I'm petty.
I am petty.
I took that personally.
Yeah.
Very personally.
So I had to let him know.
I don't react.
I respond.
I take my time when I respond.
Yeah.
The world knows.
They knew.
That was a wild situation.
That was fire.
How old is he now?
15?
Old enough.
That's what I was saying.
That's the fight everyone wants to see.
We need to make that happen.
You versus Pereira's son, bro.
I think we need to make that happen.
Just for the anime, bro.
You got to let it happen.
Maybe OC.
I guess the fight.
Maybe we'll have 40.
We'll see.
Call it Goody or something. You guys got to hash this shit out 100%. Maybe you'll see I guess the fight maybe we're at 40 100% no, I think it's cool. I haven't seen Alex at the airport people think that's gonna be like I actually
Relationship man. It's like it. There's this weird thing that happens
Yeah, there's a fascinating thing that only you guys understand because you've only been in the ring with each other
But a real cool thing happened afterwards.
He didn't seem to hold much of a grudge against you.
I also feel like he probably feels full because he knows he's gotten you before.
You get your revenge.
You have this respect for one another.
And then you did this interesting thing backstage.
You started asking him about that leg kick that he throws.
It's a tricky fucking leg kick
No, because he doesn't turn his hip at all
Wait, I don't say so just a massive human being. Yeah his like we're both
Six four I believe boys. He's a big six four. Yeah, he's a big like a big head. I've got big hands. Yeah
Well, all right, bro. Come on now, son. Come on.
Come on now, son.
You got to pick me.
Pick that motherfucker.
That motherfucker.
Pick me.
Go, Archon.
Put your fucking little hand up.
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He's good. He's smaller. Unless it's exactly like this. I'd be trying to wrangle my shit.
But he's just
a massive human being.
But the way he throws
that leg kick,
he doesn't turn his hip over.
And when it hits,
it hits.
Like the first strike
that landed in that fight
was the leg kick.
And I was like,
in my head straight,
I was like, again?
Again, yup.
I was like, again?
And we were ready for it.
Me and Twist,
we knew the counter to it.
But afterwards...
All right, fine.
Keep it, keep it, keep it. But afterwards, when I watched that fight, I I was like every time he threw a body jab
that was a setup because a body jab he'd be low and then just whip yeah I was like fuck but when
he hurt my leg and he did hurt my leg but I used it I was like fuck well that's blood in the water
now so when he when I saw his confidence trying to grow, I was like, right, I'm just going to move back a little bit and just show.
I used that move twice.
You did something early in the fight that had me fucking terrified.
When I tried to brawl with him.
Son, the first time he steps in.
One of that.
But I knew you wanted it, and that's how I knew it was kind of different.
And I was actually, afterwards I got excited.
But the first time he steps in, he threw something,
you put your hands up, and then you swung,
it was maybe two or three shots.
I don't know if either one of you guys actually landed, but I
remember going, what the fuck is going on here?
After that, the next combo, he landed a hook,
but it didn't even affect me or anything like that, but
in that moment, Eugene, this camp, he was like,
I like that you guys didn't run.
He said, I want to be more offensive-minded.
He said, I want to be, and I was like, thank you, finally. And I even told him, you're going to be stressed out in this fight. Good. I told him, I was like, you guys didn't run. Yeah. Oh, no. He said, I want to be more offensive-minded. He said, I want to be. And I was like, thank you, finally.
And I even told him, you're going to be stressed out in this fight.
Good.
I told him, I was like, you're going to be stressed out because I'm going to be in the fire.
Son, I was so impressed.
You watched the sparring, the last sparring.
I remember my leg was hurt because injury in the camp, two weeks out from the fight, fucking bad.
The meniscus?
No, that was MCL.
Yeah, meniscus.
Yeah.
English.
That was MCL?
Yeah, MNSC.
Yeah, English.
But for me, when I was sparring, I was with my sparring partners.
They were trying to take it easy on me.
I was like, nah, give me the fucking heat. Give me the work.
I want to feel the fire.
So when we're in there, I was like, finally.
I just wanted to feel like I was in a fight.
It's been a while because everyone else is too scared.
They all try to pretend they want to fight, but they want to survive.
So I was like, he beat me.
I was like, fine, he's not going to run.
Let's go.
I want to be in the fire.
And I was in the fire, and I was thriving.
So when it happened, that whole sequence at the end, I blocked all the shots apart from the body shot.
The knee even missed.
I blocked it.
I got that.
I got the read, and I was like, boom.
Now, when you're in that corner, are you thinking, I'm going to get an opening?
Did you have any of that planned, or are you just like, keep your head up?
Rhythm, rhythm, rhythm.
I remember just being there, like, we're cool, we're cool. Because I gave it to him. I was like, right. Did you have any of that planned? Or you just like keep your head up and keep, okay. Rhythm, rhythm, rhythm.
I remember just like being there like,
we're cool, we're cool.
Because I gave it to him, I was like, right.
So you're thinking we're cool,
you're not panicked in this.
Because I'm panicked watching.
It's not, it's more like just muscle memory.
Because you train so much, it's just,
it's your body response, all your,
when I say muscle memory,
memory that says it can retain information.
So my body can retain information
from the work that we've done.
It's a reaction.
You're not even thinking about it.
It's just flow-stering.
We're just going.
So when he,
I was like,
my legs hurt
and I know he's hungry for it right now.
So I was like,
right,
I'm just going to give him the look.
I back up against the cage
and I made sure I took care of everything.
You see,
my eyes were on him the whole time.
Locked on.
I was on him the whole time.
And when I hit him,
boom,
that didn't even feel like nothing.
But what was cool- The second one was crazy. No, what's cool was when I spring off the fence
I literally felt like I would like I like a vortex. I was the speed I was surprised. I was like, damn, that's crazy
Boom, I killed him. No, it was the overhand right?
That was made you go on a defense because my leg was hurt
So it wasn't like that was because immediately after the fight you're like nah, I was playing possum. No, I was playing possum
So what I used it as bait
You know what I mean? Like everybody leaned in he knows he landed a leg kick. Yeah, so now he goes. Oh shit. I'm hurt
I'm gonna use a tree. I know he's hungry for he wants to try and he knows I'm hurt
I know I'm hurt. So I know he thinks like oh it's gonna be over soon. I'm gonna knock him out
He got he got careless. He starts a throw with no no defense
He wasn't even like he didn't knock on the door.
You gotta knock on the door.
Look at a guy like Ian Gary.
Shout out to him. He's fighting in Vegas as well, I think.
He just fought recently.
But you look at his last fight, he just,
beautiful finishing sequence, but he knocked on the door.
You gotta see if someone's home. See what the reaction
is coming back. So he didn't knock on the door. He just got
confident. I thought, I'm just gonna barge in. But you gotta
nigga, wipe your feet before you come to my house.
You know what I'm saying?
It's interesting because it looked like you were looking for that
right hand. I was.
There was a sequence.
You almost caught him
early and then settled the ring. I kept on
catching him, but I wasn't catching him at some points because
he was just leaning. Yeah, he leaned back a little bit.
So that's why I was like, right, if
Moses can't go to a mountain, the mountain's going to come to Moses.
So I was like, right, I'm just going to give it to him.
So I gave it to him, and then I gave it to him.
And that was the last time when you almost dropped him in the first round.
Same sequence.
This time you made it a point to adjust it.
Yeah, exactly.
Drop him this time.
When I did as well, I fired back.
Like I said, I came off the fence, boom.
And then the hammer fist was awesome.
It was just something that like I remember when it was happening as well.
It's crazy how much thought, like, the brain just has all these, like, flashes of things, split seconds.
I remember just, like, this is for everything.
Boom.
It was just happening.
The hammer fist from the gods.
Yeah, from the gods.
Oh, bro.
It was one of those moments, like I said,
greatest six years before the fight,
I was doing a suicide trip
because I wanted to, like, get in touch with my primal self.
So I had a trip, some mushroom chocolates,
and then I had the shower.
And after the shower, I wrote in my mirror,
April 8th, Miami, 2023,
the greatest comeback in sporting history it was
written by me so every time I looked in the mirror I'd see it and it would just
affirm it to myself and then in the car I just recited randomly it was like
Tourette's so when it came down to it greatest comeback in sporting history
written by me Wow unreal I'm curious about the mushrooms how does that help
you access that like what was that experience like so you can do micro
doses and it just helps you
I feel like tap into yourself. So I started to like grunt
I remember just like I'll just sit there and just like listen to lo-fi music
Yeah
Yeah, and that's just like breathing I just lied now you feel your breath and just like
It's a personal experience
But for me, I just I wanted to tap into my
primal self, like that dog
in me, that dog in him. I know I do,
and I know I can beat this guy. Look,
he can fight me ten more times and beat me all ten more times.
I don't give a fuck. I just wanted to prove to myself
I can fuck this dude up, because I know I can.
First time, I fucked him up, just gave it to him.
Second time, I was beating him,
fucking him up, and he got me. Third time, same thing.
Out here, MSG, I was fucking him up, then he got me. Third time, same thing, out here, MSG,
I was fucking him up, then he got me. And I'm just like, fuck, I can beat this guy. I know I can. So that's what I just, I was like, this is my eight mile moment. I have to do it.
Now, humans love these stories, right? We love the underdog stories. And because so often we feel
like underdogs in life, and the story doesn't go that way for us. So when it does go that way for
someone, we exalt them, right? We grav gravitate towards them i'm sure everybody in the world in that
moment was in your dms and texting you talking to you facetiming you i know that and obviously
from watching the documentary but also just from knowing you for years that like how do you start
to like create a little bit of barrier a little bit of separation for the adulation?
Do you take it all in and you go,
okay, they really love this achievement?
Do you go, oh, I'm that great
and they should appreciate me like this?
Homeboy said, you're never as good as they say you are.
You're never as bad as they say you are.
All that matters is how you see yourself.
So I take it all in.
I appreciate the love, even the hate.
It's just fuel.
It helps me.
But I don't hold on to it.
Even the love, I never hold on to it.
I used to back in the day when I was young
because I didn't understand.
Same with the hate.
I used to because I didn't understand
that that sits with you.
So I appreciate it.
I take it, but I let it go.
I let it pass through me, but I appreciate it.
And yeah, you just have to,
it's about how you see yourself.
Fuck what anyone else, who's your flatmate up here?
What's he saying to you?
That voice in your head.
So that's what I worked on this camp.
I was isolated a lot.
I literally just like, anything that wasn't in line
with this fight, cut it out of my life.
Anyone, cut them out of my life. That was it
Yeah, did people understand?
They got it like my family already knows but people I mean
Yeah, if you know that level me, you know that level with me. Yeah, you had an interesting
Line in the documentary that spoke to me where you talked about being a people pleaser. Ah
that's from That's the rarest ugly head
once in a blue moon and i i understand it now so i'm able to like recognize it like ah
i'm doing that shit again then i pull it back and that's why i have like my big brother paulie or
ike they they shadow me because when i get drunk i'm like a labrador or golden retriever i'm just
like everyone's my friend buying shots.
But then I'm not, I think it came from when I moved to New Zealand.
It was a coping mechanism for people to like, to be accepted.
For sure.
Are we twins?
Yeah.
No, but like, it was something, you know, so it just, and even if people didn't like me, I'd still try to fit in, try and please.
And then eventually I had to realize that, no, I wasn't meant to fit in.
I have to stand out.
Yeah, but the tricky thing about being a people pleaser,
the great thing about the documentary,
and we just watched it, it was at the Tribeca Film Festival,
and I don't know where people can see it.
Not yet.
There's still like a few screenings left, I think. Okay, so go check it out.
Stylebender, it's called.
If you can, get tickets. But it was this great observation of dealing with fame.
Yeah.
And that line was so interesting because being a people pleaser when not that many people want you to please them is easy.
Yeah.
Being a people pleaser when the world is asking for you to please them becomes easy. Being a people pleaser when the world
is asking for you to please them
becomes anxiety and stress and you can get resentment
for all these people that are trying
to take your attention from you.
And there's this moment in the fucking doc
where you're walking, maybe you should describe it,
but you're walking out into your own neighborhood.
Isn't it crazy how on that day they decided to come film what I was driving
It's a few minutes beforehand actually happened. That's why I had to move from that house
I wasn't living there at the time when I was filming but my dogs were there
But then people like people would just come knock on my door and he was living in like a neighborhood neighborhood
First house
around.
Everybody knew who he was.
That was my first house.
That was my first house.
Now I'm... Closed up.
Yeah, man.
I'm like Chinese
and New Zealand now.
I'm buying everything.
Okay.
Yeah.
Ni hao, man.
But yeah,
so I just needed privacy.
I didn't...
I'd tell people,
like, what are you doing?
They're like,
oh, but can I get...
I'm such a...
I'm like, bro,
this is my house.
People would knock on the door
and just be like,
hey, can I get a picture?
And he's complaining
about going through this. And it is like a little bit of an invasion house. People would knock on the door and just be like, hey, can I get a picture? And he's complaining about going through this.
And it is like a little bit of an invasion of your privacy.
But at the same time, you have this people pleaser part of you, right?
What did I do in the documentary when he knocked?
Bro, immediately goes out, takes a picture with the whole family, et cetera, right?
But it happened right after saying that this is why I had to move out of the area.
It just happened right then.
But here's the thing.
If you're not a people pleaser,
you just go,
I'm just at home right now.
I feel good.
When you are,
it actually creates
a greater anxiety
because you feel like
you've let those people down.
Now you have this guilt
you're carrying around.
So now you resent the people
for giving you the guilt
that you're carrying around.
What I've done now
is protect my energy.
So even now I'm okay with saying no and I don't have to explain myself.
So when I tell people no, I'm fine with it and I don't care what they think or because
you know what, at the beach you feed one seagull and they might, might, might, might, might,
it's like that and they think, oh, at the airport, oh, just one bro.
I'm like, bro, you're not the only one like this.
I can case five people. I don't airport, oh, just one, bro. I'm like, bro, you're not the only one like this. I can case five people.
I don't want to be a hot chick, bro.
I walk in a bar and I know, okay, this guy's looking at me.
That table's looking at me.
That guy's approaching me.
Da-da-da-da-da.
They come, oh, bro, I got to buy you a shirt.
I got to buy the champ a shirt.
I'm like, I'm good, bro.
But imagine if I was a hot chick and it's like, I got to buy you a shirt.
No, I'm good.
They still push.
But when I'm like, yo, I'm good.
I'm okay with it.
Because there's many times I'll say yes and he'll sit with me. I'm like, yo, I'm good. I'm okay with it. Because there's been times I'll say yes, and he'll sit with me.
I'm like, why did I give that person my attention?
And he'll sit with me, like literally eat at me for about three days, maybe a week.
And then I'm just like, and it might be something so minuscule.
But I'm just like, fuck, I should have said no.
Was there a specific moment when that switch happened?
Can I guess?
Can I guess?
Can I guess?
This is documentary stuff.
I don't know.
I'm like looking at these things and I'm like, these are formative moments of your life.
There's the footage of you.
You're like an outcast.
You're kind of bullied in New Zealand.
Maybe few friends or no friends.
You do a talent show.
Yeah, in high school.
In high school.
Yeah.
And like really kill it and just by himself
does the break dancing, right?
And then you said afterwards,
immediately after that,
I had some street cred,
I had some clout,
people wanted to be friends.
So now you know
friendship and love
is transactional.
You can resent people for that.
Oh, you like me
because I'm nice at dancing.
When I was nice to you before
and just wanted to eat around people,
you didn't want to fuck with me at all.
But now that I can break dance now,
whatever,
and I wonder if that, if you can extrapolate that to also winning.
Oh, when I win, everybody wants to hang out.
But when I lose, now the DMs aren't flooded.
Or maybe you don't even realize it in high school,
but when it happens as a pro, that's still there.
And then it's true.
And it's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's over time.
We're like Oprah, bro.
Yeah, bro, it's like therapy. Deep, think it's overtime. We're like Oprah, bro. Yeah, oh, bro. It's like therapy.
Deep, man.
How much you paying for the session?
I got to know how much you paid
to win a bagel girl, bro.
Nah, she's awesome.
Shout out to Jenna.
She's legit, bro.
And that's the thing I like
about the film as well.
I like the,
instead of just sitting down
with a camera
and doing like a one-on-one interview,
I was able to practice
what I preached.
You know what I mean?
But the moment,
I feel like it's overtime in this experience. Like trial and error. Dealing with it. was able to practice what I preached, you know what I mean? But I'm the moment I feel like it's over time and it's experience
Like trial and error dealing with it learning how to deal with
Like knows cuz even now I still got chips on my shoulder man. Like I know me I'm like
Even after the loss I was fine. I was able to live my life people still love me
They still call me champ in the streets
So I was like, you know how they say like oh when you lose the bill It's like a pressure off your shoulders. I was like, live my life. People still love me. They still call me champ in the streets. So I was like, you know how they say, like, oh, when you lose the belt, it's like a pressure off your shoulders.
I was like, I'm still Israel.
I did something.
Like, it was still, you know, people want to take that name.
So they were still coming after me.
But for me, like I said, it's about protecting my energy, looking after myself.
But that people pleaser, that's where it raises ugly head.
And that chip on my shoulder,
it's like, oh, Mike Jones.
Back then, they didn't want me. Now I'm hot.
That kind of vibe. So I was just like, oh, it's
like that now. But I'm aware of it.
I'm aware of it. So when you're aware of
the monster, you're able to nullify it.
Yeah, it's interesting.
That's self-awareness.
Yeah, I would almost recommend people watch
the documentary if they don't know who you are.
Yeah, I agree.
I feel like it's even more interesting because—
You have no preconceived notion of who you think I am.
Yeah.
People sometimes say, we're a group of friends, right?
And sometimes I'll go in a bar or something, and then a group of people know me, and they're like, oh, my God.
And then there'll be one person, I'm like, I'm sorry, I just don't know who be one person like I'm sorry. I just I don't know who you are. I said, okay
I don't know who you are. I'm Israel. What's your name? And I prefer that I should prefer that because it's like I get to meet someone
Who has no preconceived notions of you? I have no expectations, you know, so I'm like this is rare for me these days
So thank you nice to meet you and I can actually have a real conversation and like get to know someone for me
Rather like are they think they know me
or what they've seen on YouTube or on TV
or my fighting, you know what I mean?
Yeah, for the people who have seen you,
I'm curious, because we as entertainers,
very different field, but you only see
a slice of our personality.
You see a slice of him, who he is, on stage.
You see the promo Izzy, the fighter Izzy.
You don't necessarily see, be a nice guy Izzy
who wants to get to know everybody, not gonna sell pay-per-views necessarily.
So are you relieved that even the people
who might have preconceived notions of you
are like, oh, that's who he really is.
This is a 360-degree view of who he is.
Yes, I feel like people get to see a little bit more
of my personal stuff.
Yeah, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
My, um, what?
Bro.
It's really, it's nerve-wracking.
You know what's fire? Seeing the shit Bro. It's really, it's another record.
You know what's fire?
Seeing the shit about you that's not cool.
What?
Like in it, like you just,
there's vulnerable shit, like things that you say
and you know you fucked up.
Even Eugene, Eugene.
Yeah, with the Eugene shit,
and like you even catch yourself in the moment,
like Eugene is the coach,
and like there's a line where he's like,
I'll do this shit.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Don't say it, don't say it.
Don't say it, don't say it.
Bro, you gotta let the, no, a little bit.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Just a little bit, just a little bit.
Whisper, whisper, whisper, whisper.
No, the.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep that, yeah.
It's, no, but I even mean.
My point is like, you're saying things you were like,
I was really vulnerable. You regret.
Or you're angry. But I catch myself.
Yeah, and then you catch yourself and you adjust.
But it's a rare thing when you're being videotaped that you will be emotionally reactive knowing that someone's videotaping.
The reason prank videos work is because—
I didn't know they were taping.
Oh, that's why.
Yeah, that's why.
That's why.
You know, it's a funny thing.
In the end of it, I was just like, I need to go home and calm down because I recognized I'm up.
I'm in this parasympathetic nervous system or whatever.
So I was like, OK, I can recognize it again.
Self-awareness. I understand that. OK, I'm not myself right now.
I need to go home and calm down. But I was really angry because of the thing that was happening.
And I just just that was just me doing this.
But that that's that's what you're not going to see in a documentary.
And it's human. We all do that. You you're not going to see in a documentary. And it's human.
We all do that.
You're also not going to see in a documentary about yourself.
Everybody's going to put the best version of themselves out there.
Yeah.
Was it difficult to keep the vulnerable parts in the edit?
Nope, because I am a vulnerable person.
But the bits that he's talking about, when you guys see it, it's like,
I cringe because I'm like.
Good.
That's real. That's real.
That's real.
The world's going to see this.
Even the dancing bits,
because like I said, for me,
dancing is so...
Like the artistic bits in between
where it's like,
when they talked about the urinal
in high school,
and then I'm dancing in a bathroom,
and it's just like this art of...
It was like Rise, you know,
Dave LaChapelle,
like a little bit,
those little bits and pieces,
and it was just like,
for me,
some people might get it, some might not get it.
But for me, when I watch it,
it's literally, I'm just like,
the world's seeing how I'm expressing myself
in those moments.
And I'm just like, I don't mind because fuck them.
But at the same time, this is me just being me
and I've always kept the same energy.
So why would I ever stop now?
So on the big screen, my documentary debut,
I stay true to who I am.
Huge announcement for me.
I'm so fucking excited about this.
I am filming my first full-length stand-up comedy special
in Houston on September 2nd.
I had to do it in Texas.
We found a beautiful space at White Oak Music Hall,
September 2nd.
Hurry up and buy tickets at akashsingh.com.
Again, everything that I have accomplished thus far,
whatever growth I made is because of you guys,
because of this podcast.
I'm so grateful for all of it,
and I cannot wait to take it to the next level.
So go to AkashSingh.com.
Buy your ticket September 2nd.
Let's blow this shit out.
Let's make it the greatest comedy special
that has ever happened.
I love y'all.
Thank you so much.
Now let's get back to the show.
Hey, we're back.
Let me re-up.
Let me re-up.
Yeah.
No, we got some Jack, too.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Give me that real shit. Give me the real shit. Let me re-up. No, we got some Jack, too. Thank you. Thank you. Give me the real shit.
Give me the real shit.
Bro, it was great. It was dope.
I mean, you're so good at putting out your authentic self,
but I don't know if that was always the case.
What's your advice to people that maybe just have regular jobs
or that want to be creatives that have difficulty
putting out their authentic selves?
Do it. That's my advice. Do it.
It's nerve-wracking. It's annoying.
But I feel do it because those who fuck with you will fuck with you.
That's how I feel like.
And you weed out the people who won't really fuck with you.
Sometimes I'll just put some random shit on my Instagram just to weed out the bullshit.
Thank you.
Because I feel like those who understand me will know, like, oh, that's Israel.
We've been here since 2013.
We know he's there. Like, like, oh, that's Israel. We've been here since 2013. We know he's there.
Like, Valentine's Day, I used to... One time, the first time I did it,
I fought on Valentine's Day in Adelaide,
Niza Fury.
And I think I was heartbroken at the time
and I was fighting on Valentine's Day.
I even came out to Luther Vandross,
never too much.
It's on YouTube.
It was a cool entrance.
But that day, while I was waiting for the fight
at the hotel...
Thank you, brother.
I just... I went on the gram and I posted probably like 85 memes.
The captions were the ones.
Thank you.
The captions were funny.
But I literally just posted just memes, just roasting, just love.
But it was just me fucking around.
And I was just having fun with it, killing time while I was waiting for my fight because I'm just lying in bed.
And, you know, people are, I'm i'm gonna follow it it's too much because you know you're only allowed to post on some weird unwritten rule like once a day or whatever but i'm like what
the fuck it's the internet there ain't no rules to this bitch so this is me trying to weed out like
the bullshit so sometimes you'll see me post some weird shit and then it's just like what the fuck
like then those who don't fuck with me, they can just... To the wayside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have to.
And even if you're still uncomfortable
about whatever moments in the documentary,
I would say, I'm trying to form the sentence
as I think of it, but like,
it's a very fucking cool thing you do
that you are open with your losses.
You came on here the day after you got knocked out.
And then the day after you knocked him back out,
you were like, nah, I need to be by myself.
And it's really, I think, cool for people to see a champion still be open and vulnerable and talk about the losses and the bad moments.
And I think we all are like, yo, fuck, if this guy who I see as a superhuman, who literally knocks human beings out for a living, if he can be human, I can be human and fuck up.
You have a bad show.
You have a bad date. You talk to a girl and fuck it up,
it's like, bro, that's what I'm getting.
It's a numbers game, man. Just run it up.
Keep shooting.
That's what it is. But, like, I mean, no matter what,
no matter what, I feel like you just have to stand up
with your head tall, no matter what.
Even one thing you said, I think you said it the best,
was you seeing you okay, you even said Duval was was like man. I feel bad. But then you said
Seeing me. Okay made you feel. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I felt the same way recently with Kai. He fought got robbed badly
Yeah badly like horror. Yeah, but then I was fucking angry, but then I sent him a message. I
Think a video while he was in the back
angry, but then I sent him a message,
I think a video while he was in the back.
He sent me one back afterwards when he was going to
the win or whatever, and
seeing him chill made you smile.
Exactly, so it did that for me as well.
I was like, okay, he's fine.
I can be fine, but I was still angry.
Bro, fuck these guys, man. I feel like even in boxing,
if a judge
or judges fuck up
and it's a controversial scorecard,
they need to be on the post-fight press conference podium.
Oh, that's a good one.
No.
Have them do a post-fight press conference.
No, we know the fighters go, the judges go.
So, sir.
Why did you give them the fourth round?
Thank you.
The fourth round where Kai won the fucking round.
Yeah.
How did you decide, you know what?
Fuck this guy.
That's actually a great idea.
No, but they're never going to do it because if you do it, it will change the system and they'll have to be held accountable and actually judge.
You know what I mean?
You know what the tricky thing about with that specifically in UFC?
I understand it in boxing when the different promoters have their fighters and they want
their fighters to win.
In UFC, they represent all the fighters.
It doesn't benefit them in any way to give
a shitty decision. There's a conspiracy
that Chance,
my boy Chance,
kind of put me onto
because Volk, I was in Perth,
I was right there. Me and Ash, when it
happened, fifth round, I lost my
shit, bro. I was like, he's done it. This guy
that people were like, oh, and he's a great
fighter from that side of Dagestani.
They're fucking awesome at their wrestling and whatnot.
But this guy has
a myth. And Alex
fucked him up. It's like the scene in
300 when the...
Alex told me
when he was on his back, Alex was like,
I thought you were going to finish me. Come on.
It was great. Come on.
And in the fifth round, Alex finishes like, I thought you were going to finish me. Come on. It was great. Come on, come on.
And then fifth round,
Alex finishes on top and then me and Ash,
I see Ash
and both Cancers,
Cancer Leo,
and like,
I'm emotional,
he's crying,
I'm crying,
I'm hugging them
and I'm just like,
fuck yeah,
you did it.
And then Red Hot Chili Peppers
are playing that night
in the fucking 60,000
sold out arena.
So it would have been Alexlex double champ boom goes to red
hot chili peppers that night oh bro and i feel like they stole his moment away but the conspiracy
has chance put me on today said like something about yeah we're all flavoring, bitch. I didn't say this, Chance said this.
I just paraphrased it.
This is Chance.
This is all Chance.
This is all Chance.
This is Chance and tequila and Jack Daniels.
But he said, look at the movement right now
in Fly Island, Abu Dhabi, the stake they have in the UFC.
It pays them to have a champ that's from that side of the world.
Oh, that's right, because Saudi Arabia is going to pay
crazy amounts of money for a fight.
Qatar is going to pay crazy amounts of money.
I don't think that you, like you said, with boxing it's different
because each promoter has their own fighter that they want to win
and it kind of feels close.
But the Islam, listen, the Islam Volk fight was close at least.
The Kai fight wasn't close. I think it was 4-1. I think it was 4-1. It was competitive. Wait the Islam, listen, the Islam Volk fight was close at least. The Kai fight wasn't close.
I think it was 4-1.
I think it was 4-1.
It was competitive.
Wait, wait, wait.
Islam Volk?
Or Kai?
Kai.
Kai.
Kai blew him out.
It was a horrible decision.
It was competitive,
but you won 4-1 in my eyes.
4-1.
Sure, sure, sure.
Islam Volk, 3-2.
I thought I had Volk winning,
but I wasn't upset with a 3-2 Islam.
I was like, okay,
I could see how certain rounds... Listen, of course, of course.
Listen, we love Volk here, but
it was one of those things where it's like
in the Nate Diaz street
fight rules, we know who won the fight.
Thank you. Exactly. Because one guy
could barely stand up at the end, and the other
guy was doing jumping jacks.
Shiner, all that kind of stuff.
Put it this way. Islam don, all that kind of stuff.
Put it this way.
Islam don't want that fight again.
He's going to get it again.
Oh, he's going to get it again.
But he don't want it.
He is glad that Volk is going to fight,
what is it, Pantoja or something?
What's his name?
What's his name?
Yeah.
What's his name?
Pantera.
Pantera?
What's the guy's name that Volk is going to fight? Oh, my shit.
No, no, hold on.
No disrespect.
I know his name.
Oh, my God. Pantoja, no? No No disrespect. I know his name. Oh, my God.
Pantoja, no?
No.
Rodriguez.
Rodriguez.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think of his nickname.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's his nickname, motherfucker.
Pantera.
Pantera.
I said Pantera.
Yeah, I was like Pantera.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
Anyway, yeah.
That was close.
Yo, why didn't they just run it back with this one, man?
The UFC got a UFC, bro. Oh, really? Yeah, I mean, hey, I'm Anyway, yeah. That was close. Yo, why didn't they just run it back with this one, man? The UFC going to UFC, bro.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I mean, hey, I'm not the brass.
They had their own plans.
But like you said.
He has to go down that belt.
That's what he has to go back to.
Yeah, he has to go back down the featherweight, defend the belt.
Does he have to?
I mean, bro, like.
You can't hold up the division.
It's hard to hold it up as well.
Listen, if we look at Volk in rematches.
Yeah.
And keep in mind, Max coming through tomorrow, that's my motherfucking guy.
I love Max.
I've met him before.
He was there last night?
Bro, I love that dude.
He's so cool energy.
Max is one of the coolest guys on the planet.
Cool energy.
It's that aloha all day.
Real talk, it is.
But I think Max will even say, wow, this guy improved from each fight.
Yeah.
Right?
He did.
So I can't see that not happening. Yeah
Islam yeah. Oh
Yeah, we're definitely or trust me. No, we've all that's it easy. We evolve. I think that's
It's like the four-minute mile once ago once one person breaks it. It's over. So once
Vogue did what he did in real life now
It's like me I knock this guy out now. I'm like if we fought ten ten times again I'm looking at my ten times every single time. Yeah, cuz I know
But like once I've done it now, it's I've actualized this like oh I
Can do it now. Yeah, you said you asked him something about the leg kick. Yeah, what did he tell you?
Um, I just asked him like I don't know how we did that
Boy, I just I think it's just limited English, but pretty much I just gave him props
I was like you with that leg kick,
it's fucking dangerous. Because it's a hard
leg kick without turning over the hip
at all. And he just, there's no tell.
When you leg kick, sometimes
you have to step. You have to step.
It's a quick step, quicker to step, quicker to kick.
Even a head kick. Quicker to step, quicker
to kick. That's like the general rule.
But he doesn't even step. He's just there, just like, boom.
This fucking stone face. Soccer shit, bro. It rule, but he doesn't even step. He's just there just like boom. This fucking stone face.
Some soccer shit, bro.
Yeah, actually.
It looks as if he doesn't come across.
It looks as if he comes almost up.
But then his leg still does this and still hits you.
Yeah.
It's just like magic.
Did y'all like share?
Yeah, we did at the airport.
So when we went through the scanner thing,
put our shoes on and I see him on the other side,
I'm just like. Ready to fight again ash was the first
one to see if it's like you know I was like no oh shit it is so we kind of like
we're behind them for about two minutes or so then I was gonna I was gonna be
like boy but then I did it we took that video was cool but then we talked about Then I was gonna I was gonna be like, oh
But then I did it And we took that video was cool
But then I do we talked about the yarn fight and then I kind of gave him some
Some tips if you will we kind of have the same idea because then I was I was saying like the way yarn fights
And he knows yeah, so I was like, oh you're gonna catch him with this was I'm gonna be careful because
We also thought he's gonna do this book because we're great strikers or because I'm a great striker.
Excuse me.
He was patient.
He took his time.
So I said, he's probably going to be patient with you.
And he's not a bad striker.
His striking is underrated.
His is weird.
He's got weird striking, but he takes his time.
He takes his time.
When he does, he's good.
But with other guys who aren't great strikers, he rushes.
And he can get clipped like that.
If he rushes against Poiton, I think he on I think but that's the thing with port on like it's he's coming up and wait and Jan
Has good control on the ground, right? He's got you just too bad takes him down
I think you'll probably just hold him down on yeah up there, but up top
I feel like Alex gonna yeah, but that does speak to what Andrew was saying earlier with you guys having this beautiful relationship
Yeah, after the fight, it's just...
I wish you messed with him at TSA, though.
I wish you put the brass knuckles in his backpack.
Payback!
Is that common with fighters?
Yeah, why is it like...
Do you guys feel this way?
Like, when fighters who have had these wars
are actually friends, it makes me happy.
I don't say we're friends right now.
No, no, not friends, but like...
There's mutual respect.
Yeah.
I get... I don't know, I get...
I get with the 205 belt, trust me.
You'll see a fifth fight.
But I get a joy from it.
Why is that?
Like, I wonder as a consumer why I like seeing these guys who put it all out there.
I think we like happy endings.
I do.
Yeah, it's like...
Not that nice.
Shout out to Tootsies.
You know what I mean?
No, but yeah, I think it's we like happy endings
you know like
uh
went through a war
we've been
through four fights
across two different sports
and then it's like
the mutual respect
and admiration
for each other's skills
you know
regardless of everything
I'll go to Brazil
I'll see him
I'll say what's up
I'll hang out in
his hood
you know but um
yeah it's uh
even he was in
my neck of the woods
I thought he was gonna come to to New Zealand. He didn't.
But he was meant to pull up to this
fight where I saw Tyson Fury, but
apparently he didn't pull up because I was there.
But I'm like, I don't care. I would have liked to say,
what's up? And he was like, you're on my neck of the woods.
You also know something about each other that
very few people know. Yeah, we know.
Exactly. We know.
It's like when, sorry to cut you, but like,
it's like when, you you know past presidents are always friends
Is that thing? Yeah, like George Bush is hanging out with Obama like Trump might be the only one
What they've experienced or like that's right. Yeah. Yeah, they're like trading candies. It's great to get Obama
It's adorable Americans are about the same while they were in office
Michelle Obama.
It's adorable.
Americans are hilarious.
They did about the same while they were in office.
But it's like, but it's just this one thing where it's like, it's such a unique experience that they can't really share with anybody else.
So once you've had that, at least I can be honest with you.
At least I can vent with you about things.
You get it.
Yeah.
I think it's why a lot of times like country clubs even exist.
It's like rich people want to be in a place where they can complain to other rich people
where poor people aren't going, oh, it must be so hard.
What are the poor people doing?
They don't want to know.
That's an inside joke.
You just slipped in there.
If Barrera gets a championship, you're going to fight him.
Did you just try to pronounce it for the first time in your life?
It don't matter.
We don't need to respect him.
But if he gets another championship,
you said you'll fight him with a 5.
If he goes up to 205,
if he gets a belt,
he can catch a smoke.
Oh, I thought you said it was done.
It's always done,
but there's always that little...
You said you're not going to hit
Swivella when you're 55, right?
Right here.
That's what I said.
But now I've beat him, so I can keep that.
Yeah.
Beat him, it's done.
What was your thoughts on the whole
Tyson Fury, Jon Jones thing?
I mean, I saw Tyson and I said,
look, you should, I think, just learn how to sprawl.
You'd be right.
Whoa. Really?
Yeah, just learn how to sprawl.
So he could defend the takedown.
But again, it's Jon Jones. Yeah, it's easier said than done. Yeah, exactly. And also it's Tyson Fury. He doesn't know how to sprawl you'd be right well really yeah so he could defend the takedown but again it's
it's john jones yeah it's easier yeah exactly and also that's tyson fury he doesn't know how
to sprawl but doesn't it yeah yeah he was like listen mate you ain't getting me in a cage
uh whatever he's you know what he said he had a different energy yeah yeah it's real life it's
real life it's like you have to understand the reality of what's what's actually happening this
is i love boxing
I was at
watching the Tio Fumo Lopez
and the Taylor fight
it was fucking awesome fight
bro
Tio went
I don't know what he did
super safe
he was starting to like
pop
like literally in the flow state
I like when I see a
not just a fighter
even a dancer
anyone go in the zone
I know when I see them
when someone is in a zone
and you're like ooh they go in it they come out of it they see them, when someone is in a zone and you're like,
ooh,
they go in it,
they come out of it,
they go back in it,
some of them stay in it.
But T-Roll was just going in the zone.
He'll pop out for a little bit.
I think he took round 10 off
just to rest,
but he'll be in the zone.
There was one point
he did some shit,
touched his foot,
caught up with the offbeat.
Oh my God.
That was magic.
The whole place was going crazy.
The Scottish people,
the fucking Mexicans,
there was nuts,
bananas.
Like a little intimate theater.
But yeah,
I like seeing someone go into a zone.
What was I talking about?
Oh, fuck,
I lost my train of thought.
Tyson Fury, John Johnson.
Yeah, nah,
boxing is different from fighting.
I mean, from like actual fighting.
You know what I mean?
I like, oh,
the greatest fighter in the world,
you know, yeah.
If you want to be
the greatest fighter in the world,
you have to be able
to fight other styles.
Yeah.
There's not just one style of fighting.
This is why, I'm a kickboxer.
That's what I started in.
And I love grappling because it was fun to watch.
And watching the UFC, it was learned.
Like Jorgen, we explained what's happening.
I'm like, oh, that's cool, that's cool.
But I had to learn.
I put my ego aside and I was like,
if I really want to be the best fighter in the world,
I could have been the best kickboxer in the world
and just like done that and made okay money.
Maybe live really nicely, very rich. I could have just gone to boxing becauseer in the world and just like done that and made okay money and lived really nicely
very rich
I could have just gone to boxing
because I was boxing for a little bit as well
and done the same thing
but I was like
I really want to be the best
also I just
I never want a man
to be able to handle me
in any situation
I want to be
in
facts though
facts though
facts though
but I just
I feel like
I'm training for jail just in case yeah trust me you're my cellmate Facts, though. Facts, though. Facts, though. But I just feel like...
I'm training for jail, just in case.
Yeah.
Trust me.
You're my cellmate.
But, like, happy Pride Month.
Anyway, for me, I feel like to be the best fighter in the world,
you have to be able to beat any style, you know?
And that's why I put my ego aside, and I was like,
I'm going to learn how to grapple.
It's like, to be a good criminal, you learn to be a good lawyer.
You know what I mean?
So, I mean, So I'm not,
the first,
I mean,
fights in the UFC,
now only one guy
was able to take me down,
keep me down,
and he's a weight class above me.
Are you excited
for tapping somebody out?
I'll tell you something
after this.
Okay.
Okay,
so you got plans.
Bro,
I'm done.
I'm just hanging out
with Craig Jones.
You know Craig Jones?
Of course.
Dude,
we love Craig.
We had Craig on here. No way. B-team Jiu-Jitsu, man. Come on with Vogue. Yeah, that is... I'm just hanging out with Craig Jones. You know Craig Jones? Of course. Dude, we love Craig. We had Craig on here.
No way. Be team Jiu-Jitsu, man. Come on with
Vogue. Alex, yeah. That's my nigga Craig.
And Vogue's trainer who fucks ladyboys
in Thailand.
Shout out to the old man Joe.
Old man Joe.
He's like a girl with hand strength.
Broad shoulders. Oh, yeah.
Joe been through some time, boy.
We love Joe. Love you, Joe.
He was on Puerto Rico hanging out training.
Yeah, I saw that.
But, yeah, I'm upskilling.
I'm upskilling.
And I love grappling.
People haven't seen too much of it yet.
Like the casuals haven't seen.
I thought you was going to tap Costa out.
When you had him on the floor knocked out.
Oh, I tapped twice.
But, you know.
I mean, even those. I think that's the greatest celebration, post-fight celebration.
100%.
Second best was all this one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the first.
I flipped the order.
That's probably why they took your tweet seriously in the documentary.
This motherfucker means business.
Hey, man, I ain't a ghostwriter.
I live my raps.
Put it that way. And Logan Paul fucked you up a little bit. I ain't a ghost writer. I live my raps. Put it that way.
And Logan Paul fucked you up a little bit.
That's all right.
We got to try to do clickbait.
Does Logan have a chance? That's funny. Does Logan have a chance in MMA?
I think he's going to find the UFC.
He's an athlete.
I'll tell you one thing.
When I grabbed him, because I think he's like...
Because he wrestled in high school.
I saw him wrestle with even Costa.
He was able to do duck unders and that kind of stuff.
He was able to wrestle, and he's really good.
And I was like, fuck it, you're strong.
I could feel him straight away.
He's strong.
He's a beefy dude, but so am I.
Yeah, boy.
But then muscle technique, and also I have a lot of this team.
He's excited, bro.
Got a little bricked up.
He's on a carnivore diet, you know what I'm saying?
Not just in response.
I went back keto.
No, but he's a strong dude.
I think he's going to do it at some point, even just once.
I think he's going to do it just once, just for the spectacle.
He can box.
I taught him how to kick a little bit.
He'll work.
I think those guys,
especially Jake,
because when I was at the house
after he knocked out Nate,
and Jake was just such a nice dude,
like a big fan.
Wait a minute.
You said you were at the house
and you saw him knock out Nate?
Nate Robinson.
Oh, yeah.
He's fighting Nate.
That's right.
I forgot.
My bad.
Nate Robinson.
You almost broke in Vegas
nah but like so
talking about the house
I realized
that like that night
like oh this guy is crazy
he's gonna do this shit
like he really wants to box
and look at him now
even at Puerto Rico
guys just locked in
he's just like
nah he wasn't
no he takes it serious
yeah he wasn't like
you know fucking around
he didn't come to dinners
he was at the house
for a little bit.
But yeah, I think Logan will fight in the UFC at some point, just for fun.
Who would be a good matchup for Logan?
Right now, I can't even.
Great question.
I said CM Punk, but he's like, no, I'm going to fight CM Punk.
Yo, come on, son.
How do you disrespect him?
He's like, yeah, I'm going to fight CM Punk.
I was like, fair, fair.
No, an active UFC dude.
Wait, hold on, hold on. You ready for some clickbait? I probably don't even know theiristy. I'm like, fair, fair. No, an active UFC dude. That'd be like a good fight.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
You ready for some clickbait?
I probably don't even know their name.
Let me give you clickbait.
Let me give you clickbait.
Ready, ready?
Drikus Du Plessis.
Is that a good matchup for Logan?
Nah.
Oh, nah.
I'm saving that one.
I want that guy.
Oh, you want that one?
Okay, fair enough.
Fair enough. That was beautiful. I'm a that one. I want that. Oh, you want that one? Okay.
That was beautiful.
I'm a beautiful lava.
Do you really want it?
No, I want it. He cut one of the greatest promos I've ever seen in history.
What are you saying?
When he said, when he said in full blonde hair, blue eyes, white face.
I'm the African.
If he said this, if he said, I'm the African Jack. If he said this, if he said,
I'm the captain now.
If he did that shit, bro.
You have to, listen, on a
troll level, you have to
acknowledge 10 out of 10.
Okay, look at this.
He's a white guy from South Africa?
Are you familiar with the thing?
I think you told us about it.
You know what ancestryandmean.com is?
Yeah, it's for white people to be not racist.
Thank you.
This is how white people find out they're Native American.
This is what I'm saying.
I could do mine, and it'll tell you 100% I'm Nigerian.
You're the bad boy.
You're going to stay from Africa, the greatest continent on the planet.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Look at your phone. Look at your phone. Bring your iPhones planet. Well, well, well. Well, well, well.
Look at your phone.
Look at your phone.
Bring your iPhone down.
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Fuck off.
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Oh, shit.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
You got a couple good things.
Okay.
But you do hisassastreamy.com,
and I'll tell you where he's really from.
Where is he from?
I don't know.
Where are all people from?
Oh!
You tried doing one of those ones.
That's it. White conda forever.
We're the captains now.
We are. We're back baby.
No, but like, I think it's French.
Duplessis is a French name. I did my Googles.
Who's left to fight? I mean that honestly.
I want her to fight DPP. I will fight him. I did my Googles. Who's left to fight? I mean that honestly. I want him to fight DPP.
I will fight him.
I'll pray on this.
I will make this happen.
I'll manifest this.
He's gonna rock Rob or do something crazy in the first round.
Because he's fighting Rob.
Rob, I'm gonna be there.
Whoever wins, I'm gonna step in the cage with them.
You will do a third one with Rob?
I have to, if he wins.
Respect to Rob, love Rob.
Listen to me, I'll tell you something after this.
Okay, fair enough.
Yeah.
I've got to make it interesting for myself.
How much longer do you want to do this?
I said at the post-fight press conference, I was like, I think I've got less than 20 fights left.
But they're like 20.
I mean.
What?
I'm like.
That's a crazy number now even.
I'm like, bro, that's light.
In China, when I lived in China for 10 months, it was kickboxing, granted, at a high level.
I fought 24 times.
24 times? Yeah, but that's Chinese people.
That's like 20 months.
I fought
Ukrainians as well. I fought a lot of Eastern
European parents. So they brought...
Because eventually, like I said, I was there
to be a journeyman.
And they couldn't beat me. See if you can't
beat them. So you were a B-side. You were there to lose.
Yeah. They brought me over to make their guys look good. But I kept on whooping their guys. And they're like beat me. See if you can't beat them. So you were a B-side. You were there to lose. Yeah, I was there. Yeah. They brought me over to make their guys look good.
But I kept on whooping their guys.
And they're like, uh, hey, hey, long.
And then that's how I got the name of the black dragon,
Hey Long.
And then they had us all fucking.
They just add dragon to whatever you look like.
And then it makes you Asian.
Bro, shout out to China, bro.
That's kind of fire.
I want to go back.
I miss, I do miss China.
I miss my time there.
I feel like it got me really ready for fame
And got me really ready like
Was
I was like, how'd I do it? I was like, no.
That's the last race of a bike.
I'm just saying what happened.
I'm in China.
They would call you Kobe Bryant.
No, no.
They'd think, oh, Kobe Bryant at the basketball.
No, no, no, no.
That bizarre.
That bizarre.
What does that mean?
Kickboxing?
Fight.
Like boxing.
Yeah.
Oh, you speak Chinese?
Goddamn, bro.
Yeah.
They really appreciate my pronunciation because my language, Yodobai, is very tonal as well.
So I was passable. If I got a Chinese girlfriend. I would have fucking I would ace that shit
You know, I was just I was outside
What are the happy endings like in in China have it did you experience that are Are they happiest? Are they happiest? Hey, hey, hey.
Ash knows all about it. I used to turn him white.
He's my dog.
Wait a minute.
I don't know what's happening.
Tell us what's happening.
Ash, tell us what's happening.
Get some alcohol on Ash so he can get loose.
Yes.
Nah, me and Diamond went to the...
Ah, fuck it.
Never mind.
Shut up to Diamond, bro.
Hold on.
I got to piss really bad.
Anybody have to piss really bad?
I can whenever you want.
Let's piss, let's piss, let's piss.
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Okay, so when is our boy
Diamond fighting again? Blood Diamond.
This is your boy.
You were in China with him.
And the tours, man. We've been around the world,
fought in different countries,
been many places.
Had fun. Hot pots.
Had some hot pots, cold pots.
Kicked out of hotels together.
These are all legend.
It's all satire.
They call them big dick diamonds in China.
We're all brothers.
You got to go into a fight sometimes.
You know what I'm saying?
That's an inside joke between me and him.
Me, him, chance. It's a long joke between me and him. Like, me, him, Chance.
It's a long story.
Go.
How long?
Really.
No, but, um, he's Sydney.
We're trying to put him on Sydney.
And I feel like the world needs to see what he can do.
You know, not just him.
Like, there's a few of our guys that's like, he's a two-time King of the Ring champion.
Yeah, he's a kickboxing background guy, beast.
I spar with the guy.
I know how good he is.
Yeah. That's a kickboxing background guy, beast. I spar with the guy. I know how good he is. That's the thing.
He just, sometimes in this life,
you get a deck of cards that's not in your favor,
but you didn't get that one hand.
I feel like September,
he just needs that hand to showcase his skills in the cage.
First fight in the UFC didn't go his way because shit happens.
That guy got him.
Second fight, he was doing well,
but then the third round, the guy just held him. Decides I'm well but then the third round the guy just held him
decides I'm just gonna
I'm gonna win the round
and they held him
I just feel like
it's his time to get
someone to be showcased
put him against a striker
if you really want
some crazy shit
he'll bro
he does this thing
called a scorpion kick
I've
he calls it a drive by
I call it
he calls it a drive by
he'll be sparring you
and then
you'll be right here.
Like, if we're orthodox, orthodox,
so left foot in front, left foot.
Then he'll just step off to his right,
and then he'll kick back.
No way.
Oh, wow.
And he caught me the first time.
When he caught me, I was like,
what the fuck was that? What the fuck was that?
Yeah.
It felt like, which one of y'all hit me?
Chris Tucker. Yeah.
Like that moment.
I thought you got dick slapped, bro.
I was like, you're going to punch me with your dick diamond?
That nigga just did me in the face.
How dare you?
No, honestly, like, he's that guy.
He's that guy.
So that's the weird thing.
Like, why wouldn't the UFC, why would the UFC build him up against other strikers while
he's learning how to grapple, and then by the time he gets there, he's going to win?
No, they will.
No, they will.
They fed you to the fucking- Exactly, straight away.
That's what they do.
Brunson, son.
That's my nigga.
I feel like you didn't even get enough credit for being Brunson because after that, Brunson
went on a win streak for like, what is it?
Ages, yeah.
Five fights or something, something crazy.
Blonde Brunson apparently because he was blonde.
Yeah, that was the issue.
Yeah.
Yeah, I wasn't blonde when he fought me.
He didn't go Super Saiyan when he fought me.
Exactly. So the tricky thing I guess right there, I like that the UFC feeds people, right?
Because they're like, okay, only the strongest survive, so you get the best.
But at the same time, there's certain people where I'm like, I'd like to.
Yeah, build them up.
And they've done that with certain people.
For example, Alex Pereira.
They did it with Alex Pereira.
With me, they built him up, gave him guys that could easily be like.
They weren't putting him against total grapple.
Did they put any grapple?
None.
Zero.
The only guy was
this Bruno guy
they put him against
but he's a striker.
He's a striker.
And they struck.
That motherfucker got a chin.
That motherfucker got a chin.
He got hit.
Big time.
Boom.
It was in the apex.
The thing I like about the apex.
You can hear it.
Bro.
Same with Fire Island.
When I was fighting Costa in Fire Island,
I remember just like, when you watch it back,
you can hear the impact, the thuds.
And then you can hear his corner screaming
when I fucked him up.
Like, badly.
Like, the guy was like, ah, ah!
Yeah, that was bad.
That was bad.
Do you like him a little bit, Kosta?
He's funny.
He's kind of funny.
I don't follow him on Twitter.
He's funny.
Twitter's crazy.
He just saves the most random...
He called me...
No.
Yeah.
I wonder why.
No, I'm just...
No, he said it.
I didn't say it.
He said it, not me.
We're bleeping it no matter what.
We have to protect you now.
I'm protected.
Maybe it's because you knocked him out
and then mimed fucking his ass.
Oh, sure.
Maybe he made him one.
Maybe.
It's just prison culture.
For the room.
One of the strong survivors.
Is there any guy you like so much
that you just wouldn't fight?
Yes.
That's a good question. Hold up.
In middleweight?
Yeah. If Kamaru
came up, you can't do it.
Never. Never.
That's my dog. That's my brother.
It's bigger than fighting. This is for
forever. The three kings.
That era.
The three kings. That era.
If we went to Nigeria or anywhere in Africa, Morocco, South Africa, that era would three kings that era if we went to Nigeria or anywhere in Africa
Morocco
South Africa
bro
that era would never
ever be
I don't want to say
it's never ever be replaced
but like it's just something
that's forever
special
in history
you know
and I'm proud
I feel proud
to be part of that
you know what I mean
so yeah
it's bigger than that
even someone said to me
when Kamaru
was about to fight
Tyra Woodley
to win the belt,
I remember, I don't know where I was, but they asked me on the podium,
like, oh, does a part of you hope that Kamaru doesn't win
so you can be the first African champion?
I was like, yuck.
I was like, what kind of mentality do you have to have
that you think, like, I would want my boy to lose so I can be the first?
I'm like, no.
His win is my win.
That question comes from abundance.
Yeah, thank you.
When you have abundance, you don't even think about scarcity.
But even like scarcity mindset,
that's where that comes from.
But like, yeah, I would never, no.
When you come from scarcity,
the idea of abundance is incredible, right?
You're like, I want three African Chinopeas,
that's the most amazing.
When you come from abundance,
the idea of scarcity is really exciting.
So that person who asks you it is rich.
Some rich journal.
Speaking of African champions,
how do you feel about Francis
not staying with the UFC,
having to move on to another?
I think, so I feel like the story's not over.
Even like when this whole fucking thing
when one championship came out,
they're like, oh oh we are withdrawing
from the bidding
but that was a play
because Francis came to them
and was honest
and said look
I got this deal
can you guys match this
they couldn't match it
so to save face
they were like
so they protected themselves
but that was stupid
and then when that happened
I saw the narrative
the streets was like
oh he made a mistake
getting all one
this and that
but I'm like bro
chill he's not with the PFL give it time give it time The streets was like, oh, he made a mistake. Yeah, no one wants him, this and that. But I'm like, bro, chill.
It's easy to sign with the PFL.
Give it time.
Give it time.
Let him do his thing.
Because the story's still being written.
Also, he's the guy that, look, before the UFC,
how he got to Paris.
Have you heard that story?
Yeah, it's crazy.
He's not a guy that gives up.
He told us.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had him on the pod when we were in Miami.
Oh, no way.
He called in.
He zoomed in, yeah.
Oh, really? Have I seen this? Maybe. But yeah, he's the man. Yeah, so he's not the pod when we were in Miami. Oh, no way. He called in. He zoomed in, yeah. Oh, really?
Have I seen this?
Maybe.
But yeah, he's the man.
Yeah, so he's not a guy that gives up easily.
He's not a guy that just like folds, you know?
Give it time.
Give it time.
I think he's making the right call.
PFL.
Also, what I like is even like bringing up the fighter he's fighting.
They're going to get paid at least a million. Bro, incredible.
And then what that does is like guys who want to fight, they're like, if I fight
a fan, that's a money fight for me.
And yeah, give it time.
Things are happening, but give it time.
The story will unfold.
It'd be really cool to see him come out
victorious. Yeah.
I'm champion. I think he's going to get it done.
I think also he's going to come back to the UFC.
That's the thing that's quite interesting.
No, he will. He will.
I think just this is business.
This is business.
Or is there a world where the three kings go to BFF?
I didn't want to ask.
We can edit that if you need to, but yeah.
I think I'm going to be in the UFC.
Look, for me, as a fan, it's not ever about me.
I've been a fan of the UFC for so long.
I think this is where my career is going to, that's it.
I'm not doing no fucking boxing after this, nothing like that, regardless of what you say about Canelo.
I know your fucking mustache is twingeling.
But regardless, shut the fuck up.
We got to do one.
We got to do one.
I'm being boxed out already.
I don't want to.
It's limited.
It's limited fighting.
I'm trying to think who you would fight.
Who you would fight. Just put 50 mil in front of me, we'll see.
I've never seen that yet, man.
Who's big enough?
There's no one big enough for you yet.
Thank you.
That's what I'm saying.
Nah, but no, yeah.
Boxing needs a renaissance.
If boxing has a renaissance.
And my weight class as well is just like, nah.
Nah.
No.
185, I mean like, no, he doesn't have, there's no money in it.
That's the thing.
That's the only problem.
There's got to be something.
If there was some money, if there was an absolute superstar.
Boxing's limited.
Like, at least let me kick him. Nah. At least. Yeah, there we go. It's not going to happen. Because then it's the thing. That's the only problem. It's going to be something. If there was some money, if there was an absolute superstar. Most of it's limited. At least let me kick him.
At least.
Yeah, there we go.
It's not going to happen.
Because then it's too easy.
Okay, how about this?
They can box, I can kick.
I won't throw any punches.
Just set up.
Still no.
But what we could do is one round.
What'd they do with Demetrius Johnson and Rod Tank?
Oh, no, that's bad.
That's a bad idea.
If they want to box in the first round
and then they want to do kickboxing in the second round,
it's a bad idea.
But it's awesome also. Look, but it's awesome. Awesome
Look, I do well for myself. I do offer myself
I'm more worried about the guys coming up because I'm such a big fan of the UFC
Regardless of what people might think us have the opinions about the company because look this is business and it's cutthroat as Vegas
it's the fucking devil's asshole, but I
Want people who find the UFC even people who fight in the UFC,
even when they come into the UFC,
I want it to be like you're being drafted into the NFL.
I don't want a guy who's fighting in the,
because I have teammates who just,
like Diamond's gone to the UFC.
He's doing well for himself,
but he also has businesses on the side,
but sometimes you have to do a few PTs here and there.
I don't want that for a guy who has the UFC banner on their chest.
I want it to be a prestigious thing where it's like...
PTs is personal training.
Yeah, personal training.
Yeah, my bad.
It's prestigious to be in the UFC.
Like, yo, you're a UFC fighter.
I want them to be able to like...
You want it to be once you're in the UFC, that's the only job you have.
Thank you.
That's what I want.
So I think...
I really want this to be my,
what I'm doing with the UFC, I'm done with fighting.
I move on to other things.
What if the UFC had a different division
in the same way that, like, baseball has different divisions?
Where it's like, here's UFC.
In America, they have, like, triple-A, double-A, single-A.
So, like...
You lost me.
Basically, the major leagues, everybody's...
Everybody's making crazy money. In the NBA, they have the G League. But it's like, everybody's making crazy money.
In the NBA, they have the G League.
But it's like everybody's making crazy money in the majors,
and then they have a subdivision where –
What, the WNBA?
I mean –
Oh, no, I'm asking.
No, that's not accurate because they don't make money.
No, I'm asking.
No, they have the G League where the guys who were like trying to make it into the NBA.
Oh, no.
My bad.
Sorry.
No, I'm asking.
It's a question.
You're being curious.
I can ask questions.
I know.
I know.
I'm curious.
He's not from this country.
I don't know sports.
He's a foreigner.
I don't know sports.
He's a foot setter.
I'm just new here.
We saw you take a shot in the documentary.
You don't know basketball.
Yeah. Even the Chinese people were like, not Kobe Bryant. Not Kobe Bryant. Not Kobe. We saw you take a shot in the documentary. You don't know basketball.
Even the Chinese people were like,
not Kobe Bryant.
Not Kobe Bryant.
Not Kobe.
Drake called Chance once.
I sent Drake Chance my boy.
He calls it a struggle jumper.
That was a struggle jumper.
I'm not quitting my day job.
This is what I love about the documentary they left in the miss
you could have edited out
the miss
it was a heartbreak
gotta show your lows
yeah
eyes and lows
gotta show them all
yeah
anyway
like what if the UFC goes
okay here's our subdivision
and you can still have them
on the major UFC fights
you can have them
on the undercard
you can have whatever
and then these are
the top fighters then all these people that are part of the uppercard. You can have whatever. And then these are the top fighters. Then all these
people that are part of the upper echelon are making
so much money and that's the NFL.
That's contenders series.
But they're all signed to the UFC.
If it's G League and then NBA,
when people in the G League aren't making
enough money or aren't making
NBA money, you're not upset because you're like,
oh, this is the G League. You have to make it up to the
NBA. They're pay-per-view nights. You can watch
a few of the earlier fights on
ESPN, and then you
have to go to the pay-per-view. That's like the way
they feed you the pay-per-view.
You haven't made it to pay-per-view yet,
so you're right there. I get that, but I think
the average person is going, all these people are signed
to the UFC, and what you were just saying is you want the UFC
to be the NFL. So I think the way to do that all these people are signed to the UFC and what you were just saying is you want The UFC to be NFL. Yeah
So I think the way to do that is sign all the same guys
But create a subdivision and then just make this is the UFC Development League or the UFC
G or whatever the fuck it was and then it's just like, you know, so it's like yeah
You're gonna make 50 grand a fighter 30 grand a fight
But you're doing that for the opportunity to make millions of fight even the fuck billions, fuck billions. Even just 50 grand a fight. Or 30 grand for your UFC debut, like, entry level.
30 grand.
Think about it.
You do that three times a year?
Also, they pay for all your corners and hotels,
so you don't have to fight.
Well, that's different.
Yeah, no, no, no.
That's a different game now.
Bro, they just merged with WME.
It's a $21.4 billion company.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
You got money.
You got money.
What are they getting now? Huh? What are people getting now? Because I don't know, and I'm sure a lot Like, come on. You got money. You got money. What are they getting now?
Huh?
What are people getting now?
Because I don't know
and I'm sure a lot of people
Everyone's different.
My UFC debut,
I made six figures
and I made a 50K bonus.
So I was blessed
because I did my work
before I got into the UFC.
I cultivated,
I found my socials,
I did my fights.
Yeah, you were coveted.
Yeah, I was coveted, yeah.
There's a difference
between a guy who like
there comes in.
Like Charles Oliveira's first fight was probably for, like, a stick of corn.
You know, but he's become the, he's become the, no, but with the mayonnaise and the butter and everything, yeah.
Salt and red.
Exactly, yeah.
But now, but now, you know what I mean?
But he was also, he became the champion.
Fight of the night, carnitas.
That's crazy.
You get protein?
But that's what I mean.
I want it to be like, I honestly mean that.
I'm just a fan, man.
I'm just a fan.
Like, it's crazy for me even doing this shit because I remember watching the UFC back in the day.
I used to go to Blockbuster or Video Easy.
Do you guys have that?
No.
Back in the day. Blockbuster. Yeah, we video easy. Do you guys have that? Back in the day, yeah, we should like get the the old UFC fights throw the DVDs
I'll watch them silver Dan Henderson Rampage Jackson granny couture such a fan
So for me to even be in this position now doing this shit
It's a blessing and I really I really feel like it's the it's the best sport in the world
I really feel like it's it's the it's world. I really feel like it's the best specter.
Bro, I know this shit, because nigga,
when a fighter walks into a room, it's different.
Bro, the emotions that are part of it.
I never play on this.
Look, Mike Tyson, even amongst fighters,
when Mike Tyson walks through the UFC PR,
everyone's like, Mike.
And even Dan Hooker, who doesn't fan over no one,
he tries to get a photo.
Like, I know the feeling because when a fighter walks.
I hate, I'm not name dropping.
Okay, so I went to OVO Fest, right, at the party, at the estate, the embassy.
I don't follow basketball, so there's all these big time basketball players that was there.
That was the place I met LeBron, and I saw Draymond on the corner in his seat.
But I had my own section with my boys. but then I was talking all these other basketball plays afterwards
Well, I noticed the difference and it's all taller than me
But it's different when the fighters and the thinkers look regardless at the end of the day. I can kick ass
And but fuck it. Yeah
If I wanted to. If you wanted. If I wanted to. But shout out to, what month are we in? Pride month.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Pride month.
We're outside.
All love, all love.
Ash taking a big gulp.
Taking a big gulp for Jack Spaniel.
This is our Pride month.
Oh, shit.
Leave it, Miles.
Yeah, there's a different energy when you walk in.
There's a different respect.
That's a bad man right there.
Exactly.
LeBron looking at you like he knows you can fuck him up.
Who?
LeBron.
It's different.
LeBron was at the house.
It was only when certain people, when they move around, everyone just kind of like, also all the clout trounces outside.
Bro, no, they shipped him in.
Because there was one of these kids, I think it was his name, White Kill Cyrus.
He's like, yo, Drake bringing like 400 bitches to the house.
I was like, oh word.
I don't know who curates all this stuff.
Shryden, we talking about this?
Bro, 400, bro?
We know there's women at Drake's house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know it was like Sparta.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
That's crazy.
There's bitches at the OVO party?
What?
No, no, the thing is like,
they all park at this venue and then they get shit on.
What is the venue?
Is it Blood Diamond's dick?
They just put a light on top of Blood Diamond's dick.
No, but, like, they park at this, like, they get, I don't know who curates it.
It's a good system.
They meet at, like, a parking lot.
They park there.
And then they get in the buses.
And the buses drive to the estate or the embassy.
Exactly.
You can't let any rough.
Yeah.
The platform mansion used to do that.
Same thing.
Everybody meet to this thing and then we'll take it.
And then if we.
So we pulled up to the house, right?
And then we're getting clearance.
And while we're in our in our sprinter, I see this van pull up to the house.
And it was like, you know, this clown cars when like clowns.
Just like.
Wrong.
They got makeup all over their face.
Yeah, just like a clown.
Same thing.
Same thing.
They're all like, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, It was like that but LeBron was cool cuz he had to say what's up, but he saw me He's like yo pulled up and we talked for like a minute
What was cool and it was just like I just I don't follow basketball but follow greatness some people are full on just like yo
You're great at what you do. Yeah, so talking to him was yeah, it was a cool moment
I think the reason why it's so easy to give it up for a fighter is because there's no ego involved for a not fighter
How so I? to give it up for a fighter is because there's no ego involved for a not fighter.
How so?
I know you can fuck me up,
so I could just say you're great.
But for a basketball player to basketball player,
it's like,
I'll bust your ass one-on-one.
I'll lock you up.
There's still like a little bit
for an actor, an actor,
comedian, comedian,
musician, musician.
Fighter and fighter as well.
Like fighter hotels,
I've been, yeah.
You see how fighter fighter goes.
It's like almost a fight every single time.
Sometimes it breaks out like that.
But yeah, but the difference is, even me, I can't wait to go to ESPYs.
When are they bringing out the, me and Alex should be on their nominations.
Me and Alex, best fighter of the year.
Yeah, we should be on that.
Yeah.
Cuz Alex don't do what he does in Vegas when, then we should go to the ESPYs that next week.
Dapper up. And I bet
you, same thing, walk the red carpet. I just
know when we pull up, it's just like, oh,
there's them boys. There's them boys.
You gotta host that shit low-key.
Yeah, I know. Oh, no, no, no.
Host it. No, no, no, no.
What do you mean?
We'll write you some jokes.
This will be good.
Hold on, hold on. You guys, you gotta check mine. I'm write you some jokes. This will be good. No, no, no. I mean this for real. This will be good.
Hold on, hold on.
You guys, you got to check mine.
I'm rapping this year.
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm in.
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I'm see. I won't read out loud. Let me just see. Okay, let me find a good one. Let me find a good one.
Ash.
Bro.
Hold on.
Have you said Ash any?
Has he said them out loud?
No, no, no, no.
So, you know when you do this as well for jokes, I'm sure.
All the time.
Because there's certain times I'll have an idea, and I think, I'll remember that, but then it's like a bubble.
Yep.
Gone.
And you're like, what the fuck was that?
What was that?
And it's like gone.
I'm like, oh, it was so good at the moment, and it's like gone I'm like I was so good at the moment I've gone so now I write things down ideas bars
things so
Let me let me find cool
But Kobe did it yeah, and do we remember Kobe's come on
Jack did remember what I was
Nobody looks back at those moments like I'm okay Remember what Shaq did? Remember what Iverson did? God did. I want to.
I got to. If nobody looks back at those moments like, oh, that was fire.
I think it's like a rite of passage.
I got to rap.
I got to rap.
I can flow.
This is a rite of passage.
That was the best thing I could say.
Let him be great.
I can sing.
Let me be great.
Let me be great.
Hold on.
Chris Browning.
Chris Browning.
You got to get Obama to do it with you, bro.
You got to get 16 from Obama, bro.
For real.
Because he's going through what you went through, which is like, I've achieved the pinnacle of my profession.
And when you're black and you do that, you go, I need to drop an album.
I know.
It's like, I'm telling you.
Okay, let's go to Balls of Heart, but let's just see.
Let's just see.
We're down right there.
Yo, rap one, yo.
No, no, I can't do that. I'll put it in the rhythm here. Do it. Let's just see. Read that one right there. You don't rap one, yo. No, no, I can't.
I've never.
I don't put it in rhythm yet.
But what?
Do it.
Don't do it too.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey.
These are just ideas.
We workshopping.
We workshopping.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
We workshopping.
Brainstorming.
It's a full state.
Oh, this guy.
Okay, all right, all right.
It's a dumb one.
It's so stupid.
You my son, son.
If I didn't come, you would have never begun.
Damn.
Damn.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Do it again.
Do it again.
Do it again.
Do it again.
Say it again.
You my what? Hold on.
You my son, son.
You my son, son.
If I didn't come, you would have never begun.
Oh my god bro.
Testify.
Bro fat, hold on hold on hold on.
One more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more, one more.
You would have never begun.
Hit the verse.
You would have never begun.
Spoken word.
No, you got it.
There you go.
You can body that.
Hey, no, to his point, we don't remember Kobe's reps.
Even if they're not good, nobody cares.
It's a stain.
Shaq, no.
He can still lose.
Shaq was Shaq's song.
It gets the people going.
Come on, come on, come on.
What you got?
What you got?
Hit it.
It don't make no sense.
No, read it out loud.
That's what I'm saying.
It's ideas.
Exactly.
It's just ideas.
Hey, Izzy, I'm far away. Read it out loud. Just say it out loud. That's what I'm saying. It's ideas. Exactly. It's just ideas. Hey, Izzy, I'm far away, so I'll read it out loud.
Just say it out loud, bro.
Sorry, no.
I'll holler at you.
It don't make sense,
but it's provocative.
It gets people going.
It gets them going.
I'm saying.
Izzy, show us a different one.
That one.
That one.
I love you.
Okay, I love you.
I love you, too, baby.
I look up to you.
Yes.
Hit us with a different one.
All right.
You realize we're creating his origin story right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I do that personally.
It started exactly.
The seed has been planted in his head.
He's going to retire from MMA.
And I put a whole verse, and I just roast him.
I roast him.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Wait, wait.
Find a good one.
Okay, okay, okay.
A cross-eyed bitch double-crossed me. That's go. Wait, wait. Okay. Find a good one. Okay, okay, okay. A cross-eyed bitch double cross me.
That's just starting to fire.
I ain't going to lie.
That's just starting to fire.
I'm a cross-eyed bitch double cross me.
I make her eye do the X like she cross.
All right, it's flamed out of there.
But the first, the first.
A cross-eyed bitch double cross me.
A cross-eyed bitch double cross me.
But there's something there.
I just got, it's like, it's like you you doing the that you ain't do your shows like your spots
Oh, so I just I'm imagining this woman, bro. It's like you you the champ you gave her. He knows who it is
We ain't the cross-eyed bitch Bring up the tape. All right, all right, all right. This is, this is, this is. That's the thing.
Calm down.
Baby, calm down.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's finish that right out.
We all got one lazy-eyed bitch there.
Yeah, well, there's one.
Bro, you got,
some of these you got to bring out at the press conference.
Some of these you got,
now this is a press conference, bro.
Bro, you so...
Bro, you so far below me,
you should be belowin' me.
That's good for a
press conference.
Let's pour one out for them.
Come on, bro. Pour one out for them.
Wallahi.
Wallahi, my baby.
That's why, because I forget, so when you bring it to me, I'm like, ooh.
Farts.
Come here, man.
Come here.
Send us some balls and hit us like that.
I'm sorry.
Find another one.
Find another one.
Give me one more fire one.
This is like gross.
I was hating, dog.
It'd be your own people.
It'd be your own people.
I'm trying to save them.
This is like Safari Rabbit Breakfast Club right there.
That wasn't it. It's not it. That wasn't it. All right, listen. Okay. I'm trying to save them. This is like Safari Rabbit Breakfast Club right now. That wasn't it.
That wasn't it.
All right, listen.
I'm trying.
That's what I'm telling you.
Don't do this.
You're great already.
I'm going to do it.
Go on.
I'm going to do it.
I'm rapping this year.
I'm rapping this year.
I'm buying.
I'm popping.
I'm going to be there.
I need a song for me, though.
I love songs. I love ballads. Okay. You, booty shorts. I need a song for me, though. I love songs.
I love ballads.
Okay, you're my love interest.
Yo, let's do it.
Just have Drake ghost write for you.
Nah, he's too big.
Or have Drake's ghost write or ghost write for you.
Hater, bro.
This guy's such a hater.
How come I can't take the joke?
It's right there.
I can't take the joke, but it's right there.
We're going to Zorato soon.
You better watch out.
Can you write him better bars?
This is fantastic, bro. This is fantastic, bro. We go to Zorato. Can you write him better bars?
Fantastic, bro.
This is fantastic, bro.
I know you know.
I know you know.
But trust me, I got bars.
I got bars.
But maybe you can go straight.
This line is actually funny.
This is funny.
This is it.
Listen, this is funny.
Listen, I don't have time to date.
I only got time to fuck.
It's true.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'm not done yet.
I don't have time to date.
I only got time to fuck.
Because I come quick.
That's reasonable.
That's bars.
That's bars, bro.
That's bars.
That's reasonable.
That was an excuse.
What the hell?
Sometimes bars is an excuse, bro. I don't got time.
That's why. It be like that sometimes.
Yeah, you fucking for four minutes, bro boy.
What are you doing?
What's the point of fucking for long, bro?
What's the point of fucking for long?
It's like cardio. I already trained today.
Exactly.
And when you pain by the minute,
shout out to Joe.
Yeah.
Shout out to Joe. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Shout out to Joe.
Uncle Joe, we love you, Uncle Joe.
When you pay him by the minute.
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You have another screening tonight? No, no, no. Oh, there is
but I want to go watch, um,
what's the name? Extraction 2. Oh, there is, but I want to go watch Killick Bay. What's the name?
Extraction 2.
Oh, shout out to Hemsworth.
Hemsworth.
Yeah, Chris.
Yo, they made it seem like his memory was going, bro.
What?
Did you hear about that?
What do you mean?
Like, he was on some show
where he was like,
I got the gene for Alzheimer's.
And then the media
caught on to it
and they thought that, like,
he was already...
Oh, really?
Where you going?
Oh, pee.
I'm letting you cook, man. Let him cook. Let him out. Really? Oh, P. I'm like, you could.
Let him cook.
Let him cook.
I love you.
Let him cook.
He's going to go write some bars right now.
Act like he's nice.
He think he's good at rap.
I'm going to come back with a sweet shit rap.
Al's so bad.
Al's trash at most black things.
He's trash at most black things, if we're being honest.
What you got?
He ain't black.
He's got black hair.
Go pee, son.'t rap, Al.
Holy shit.
That's fight words.
I need to go pee.
You can't rap.
You can't dance.
That's what that is.
You can't rap, though.
Your feet trash.
Dance a little. What does feet have to do with rapping? You play't dance. That's what that is. You can't rap, though. Your feet trash. Can't trash. Dance a little.
Basketball.
What does feet have to do with rapping?
Basketball.
You play good defense.
You play good defense, which is the whitest part of the NBA.
The whitest part of the basketball.
Play defense and rebound.
He do.
The spot-up shooter is the whitest part of the NBA.
No.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Black people got good at that.
Black people got really good at spot-up shooters.
They got really good at spot-ups. All them drive- good spots. They got really good spots.
All them drive-bys.
They got really good spots.
Jokic.
Jokic.
I see him on the Gram.
Like, I don't follow basketball, but I see who's training right now.
I know he's doing big things.
Yo, he's all right.
He's doing all right in the finals, bro.
But he's not white-white.
Ah, Eastern European.
We don't count them, bro.
Yeah.
They're the OGs. Nah, that's off-white, man. They they are the OGs. We try to act like they not that's off white
White white people are weird like that. Why you don't like count the OGs we like we like Americans don't count Africans
Yes, I like the whole so who did it recently so says something I don't like that I don't like the whole So who did it recently
Someone said something
I don't like
Don't Africans be like
We not like y'all too
Africans are
No no no
That's some people
Africans act bougie
That's not the majority
But Africans do act bougie
Yeah
It might be an older thing
It might be a parent thing
Yeah
So it's not the majority
Like now the younger generation
They're all welcoming
Because the world's
A whole melting pot now
You know what I mean
The internet done made that happen.
Happened, that's how it is.
I remember when I was going to college, bro,
the way that people dressed in New York
was so different than the way
that people dressed in California.
Like I could bring some shit to California
and they never saw it in their life.
Like Tim's?
Literally.
They'd be like, do you have a job?
Like they couldn't fathom.
What are you, a construction worker?
Yeah, they couldn't fathom.
And now, no matter where we go, even when we go do shows, everybody dresses the same. like they couldn't fathom what are you a construction worker yeah they couldn't fathom and now
no matter where we go
even when we go do shows
everybody dresses the same
everybody
you went to go to a show
and everyone got their hair cut
bro it's gonna happen
it's gonna happen
it might be a little scary
that's a rally
now your boy had it
yeah no
he's touring a show
they're all gonna have
their hair cut
over here
I call it a jump fade.
The jump fade.
Your boy, what was his name?
I met him last night.
TG, TG, TG.
TG and OD, OT?
Ugo, Ugo.
That's my stylist, Ugo Mozzi.
He, bro, he, I like to flex him.
He's worked with everyone.
They pulled up.
No, he's worked with everyone.
Beyonce, Justin.
But they pulled up, like, letting everybody know that they style.
Yeah, they're outside.
They're the guys.
They're the guys.
He pulled me up with a suit last night.
And even the after.
I'll wear it tonight.
You'll see me tonight.
No, you know, I'm that guy like they ain't seen it yet.
Not everyone's seen my outfit yet.
So I'll rock it twice.
I went to the boxing.
Bro.
Bro, if I pay $5,000 for a coat, I'm wearing it 5,000 times.
Not enough people see me.
Why would I wear that once and just throw it away?
I'm going to rock that shit again and again and again.
Thank you.
Yeah, baby.
I'm a father's son.
That's the most Nigerian way to rock.
One of the best parts of the documentary, I don't give a fuck I'm giving this away,
is when his parents are given the breakdown of the fighters, bro.
Yeah, oh yeah.
This was great.
His mom just goes on like.
She's right though.
Bro, she goes, what did she say? His striking is not that precise.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not that precise.
I don't...
Like, he's supposed to be like,
okay, I'll take some chances now.
No, no, no, trust me.
My dad and my mom, they watch every UFC fight card now,
and they'll watch every middleweight,
even if they're not ranked, on that fight,
and just suss them out for me.
So when I have an opponent... That just suss them out for me.
So when I have an opponent,
that was a big one, excuse me.
When I have an opponent.
What'd that taste like, bro?
Smash burgers.
Bro, those are good, bro.
Those are so good.
I thought that was a double entranja
from what happened last night.
Come on, man! Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Al!
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
That was smashed.
No burgers, though.
Hey!
Allegedly.
All the legends.
This is a legend.
We should call the whole podcast a legend.
This is a hologram.
Yeah, we're just making fun of what podcasting is.
It is AI.
It is real.
Al can't rap, though.
Al can't rap for shit. Yo, you don't got one bar. You don't rap for shit.
You don't got one bar.
You don't got one bar.
You don't got one bar.
Give us one bar.
Give us one bar.
I don't got my bars ready right now.
That's white as fuck.
That's not even a rap.
Go out.
Go out.
Go freestyle. I ain't even a rap. Go out. Go out. Go out. I got to stop.
Go out. Freestyle.
I'm an Indian.
Why do I got to freestyle?
How do you pass it off to the Indian?
Come on.
Freestyle.
We'll do some hopscotch at least or something like that.
Let's do some double dutch or some shit.
You got to do something.
Come on.
If we cheat, if we're between.
He pulled the brakes real quick.
He went,
Screech!
He went,
Screech!
Bring it to a six.
If we're clapping and stomping and saying your name,
you either got to rap or you got to double dutch.
Damn.
That's facts, bro.
My name's Alex Meady and the place to be.
Studio, where to see.
Izzy and the boys.
I'm cringing.
I'm cringing.
I got to do that. to see Izzy and the boys. I'm cringing. I'm cringing. I don't want to be a dude now.
I got it.
Dumb Dumb is a genius.
Dumb Dumb is Jewish, brother.
Thank you so much for watching.
Dumb Dumb is a clown.
Dumb Dumb is Jewish.
They don't rap.
They sign y'all after you rap.
That's their job.
Okay, go.
Go hunt.
Dumb got bars.
Did you see a Dumb Dumb bar? Dumb Dumb got bars. Sign right go. Hold on. Dub got bars. Did you see a Dub got bars? Dub got bars.
I'm right here, 360 deal.
Please, thank you.
Thank you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Dub, okay.
Oh, God, go.
Go, go, go, go.
Yeah, go on, Dub.
Let's go.
Dub, go.
That was fire.
That was freestyle, though.
That was...
What was that?
What did I see, though?
I was just like...
Damn.
I was trying to beat my dub.
My man, Drippy, let's go.
Yeah. Okay, Al, do you have one. My man Drippy, let's go.
Okay, Al, do you have one bar at least?
I don't got bars, bro.
Yo, Mark hasn't spoken for the last ten minutes
because he's been calculating bars.
Bro, I've been thinking ten bars.
Ten bars.
Over here.
He's been waiting for us to ask him.
He's been waiting for us to ask him.
Hey, Mark, do you have any rhymes?
What rhymes with Costa? what rhymes with Costa?
What rhymes with Costa, bro?
I don't even know.
Something about munch spaghetti.
Yeah.
Something like that.
All right, beat.
You got it? You got it?
Oh, come on. Here we go.
All right, Mark. Rap.
No beat, no beat, no beat.
Old-spoken words.
Acapella.
Rap battle.
Acapella.
It's a cypher.
All right, let's go.
All right, go, go, go.
Yo, if you want this, I'll fuck you up like Poetan.
Ooh.
If you want to get in the ring, I'll make you my holigon.
Oh, okay.
It kind of rhymes.
If you put it with an accent.
Yeah, a little bit, a little bit.
If you put it with an accent, it might rhyme.
Keep going, though, because we need to forget about that one.
Go, go, go, go.
If you want to get it, I'll fuck you like Costa.
I'm going to smoke on that pack like I'm Rasta.
Oh!
Oh!
OK!
OK!
OK!
OK!
OK!
Thunder Cut!
Thunder Cut!
Thunder Cut!
Talk to everybody.
Just start at the second one.
Yeah, bro.
You needed pressure, bro.
You needed the pressure.
Without the pressure, it was ass.
What the fuck was Hologon?
Give me ten minutes of not talking.
You was bringing too much attention to me, Schultz.
Yeah, you got it.
Save it.
Save it.
Nobody.
He popping his in for the next one.
I'm rapping this year.
Come on.
Even if it sucks, I don't care.
I'm not trying to make money off it.
I just want to express.
I really, I feel like I've got some.
It's not, no.
Put it down.
These are zins.
What are zins?
You never had a zin?
Look, look, I thought it was gum.
Uh-oh.
No, this is bad.
You shouldn't have that.
Hey, leave me alone. It's legal.
It's legal.
Yeah.
I'm curious.
Let me see.
It's a nicotine pouch.
Yeah.
I don't do nicotine.
Me neither.
Well, you know what?
That shit will fuck you up.
You know what people say?
I only smoke when I'm drunk.
I only vape when I'm drunk.
It's because of bitches.
All these bitches vape.
That's why.
They do, right?
They need to suck on something.
Let me just get a little.
Let me smell.
It's better than cigarettes.
It's better than cigarettes.
I'm good. Because I know nicotine is good for cigarettes. It's better than cigarettes. I'm good.
Because I know nicotine is good for you.
Chill, chill, chill, chill.
Yeah.
Guys.
Baby, calm down.
Calm down.
Nah, don't do it.
Lockdown.
Lockdown.
Chill, like, find out.
That kid's cool with the afro.
No, Rambo, honestly, like, the first.
Disgusting.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You didn't see nothing.
I saw that.
Say it in bars.
Say it in bars.
If you can't say it in bars, it can't happen.
Miles, run the replay.
No, no, no.
10 second rule.
What's worse is that he don't know what I did.
He don't even know what I did.
He don't even know what I did.
What's worse is that he put it back in the package.
You do know.
You do know. You do know. You don't even know. Hold on. What's worse is that he put it back in the package. How you do know? You do know.
You do know.
You don't even know.
Hold on.
You do know.
I didn't think you knew, but you do know.
I saw that.
I was like, it's a piece of shit.
I think my lips went away.
So what does that mean?
I can't get it under my lip.
I think my lips went away.
He never had lips like he never had rhythm.
That's what it is.
Oh, damn.
Damn.
He was in his best outfit today. He was in his best outfit today.
Al was in his best outfit today.
Let's do the one.
No, I don't know why he's shooting today.
Okay, Mark.
Okay, Mark.
Okay, Mark.
Okay, Mark.
Oh, shit. What are you doing?
That was crazy.
I'm going to talk about Mark.
Are you zenning? Are you zenning or what Shout out to the dead, bro. Are you Zen-ing?
Are you Zen-ing or what?
Yo, we off the Zen right now.
Come on, baby.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
What's happening?
Hold on.
Show the Timmy's logo on that.
Mark, what's your thing?
He's about to bless me right now, bro.
No, no.
I just realized.
Because I didn't even know you were a comedian.
Find me.
Let me find you.
Finally, right?
Find you.
Let me find you. Okay. right? Find you. Let me find you.
Okay.
I like Mark Gagginon.
Why you got to throw a diss at me, bro?
Put that in a rap.
Take it.
What did I say?
What?
I'm just...
No, you don't want...
They call me Mark Gagginon.
Yo.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Because all these bitches
on my dick
and they gagging on.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel that.
I fuck with that.
Hey, come on, guys.
Come on, man.
Really?
Y'all didn't want me to win.
Y'all didn't want me to win.
Y'all didn't want me to win.
The greatest African champ.
Let's go, baby.
Honestly is the best
support you can do.
Oh, yo, bro.
Yo.
Have you seen Book of Mormon?
Book of Mormon?
It's crazy.
Bro, that's Drake's story.
We are Africa.
Hold on.
My boyfriend in South Africa wants to find it.
You see my book?
We are Africa.
Oh, bro, that's Draco's story.
I swear I'm watching that.
I was like, yo.
Wallahida, that.
Wow.
That's that nigga right there.
Bro, Book of Mormon, this is the story.
We are Africa.
Oh, my God.
That shit was done
It's the two niggas
From South Park, right?
They made that
Trace Stone and Matt Parker
Bro, that
This is my favorite thing
About that play
Is that everybody
Watches that play
That has the most
Offensive humor on the planet
Yeah
And nobody gets offended
I know
I wasn't offended
At all
Because it's just hilarious
That's what made me go
Okay, you can say
Exactly
Amen to that.
Bro, I got.
But it's hilarious.
They're great.
I got jokes.
Hold up.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Where are you at now?
Where are you at now?
I might be in support of this.
Where are you at now?
Why not rap?
Yeah.
No.
That's racist, bro.
That's racist.
This one, I hate on him.
This one, I hate on him.
Okay, hold up.
I got a good one.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You want a beat?
No, no. No rap. Joke. Hold up. Here we go. Here we go. I'm here. Wait. Hold on, hold on. You want a beat? No, no, no.
Not rap.
Joke.
Hold on.
Here we go.
Here we go.
I'm here.
Wait, let me come out.
Coming to the stage, Israel Adesanya!
Sonny's adorable.
Let me joke, bro.
Yo, yo, yo.
Watch, watch, watch. Watch, watch, yo, yo. Let me joke.
Why can't I talk?
Let's go.
You guys watch the new Jeffrey Dahmer?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dahmer?
Yeah.
I heard he was doing an interview.
He said it was the hardest role he ever played.
He had to play in his life. Yeah.
It was really hard to play a gay guy.
Izzy! Izzy! Izzy! Izzy! Izzy! Izzy!
Pride month! Pride month! Pride month! Pride month! Pride month!
That was good! That was good.
That was good misdirection.
I was going to.
But I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa!
Market! Market! Market!
Market!
Market!
It took me a second to get it.
That's a joke!
That's a joke!
It was like, it would be real hot.
Market! Market!
Market!
It would be funny if you were here.
You're right.
Exactly.
It would be funny.
I have a career.
I have a movie out now.
I can't be out there saying all that kind of shit.
Flex on him.
Flex on these broke motherfuckers, bro.
I was trying to flex.
Flex on him.
I got a movie out.
Damn, I'm literally just being honest.
I was just trying to get.
We were in a movie theater.
No big deal, bro.
That's what it is, man.
Tribeca Film Festival.
No big deal.
Tribeca Film Festival.
Sold out.
People trying to get in.
Bitches waiting outside.
Trying to get slurped.
He's like in attendance.
Paramount.
Oh, yeah.
824.
Yeah, man.
You know the vibes.
Neon.
Yes, yes.
824 don't miss, dawg.
They don't miss.
They're here.
They're here.
And they were excited outside.
That's all I have to say.
Yeah.
I talked to some guy.
They even sent an Asian to woo you.
Damn.
That was her name?
Her name was Woo You. Woo You. Woo. That's a woo you. They sent Woo you. Woo you. Woo you. Woo you. Woo, that's a woo you.
They say woo you.
So they say woo you.
That's a joke.
Let me write that down.
Write it down, write it down, write it down.
That's a bar, that's a bar.
That's a bar.
So you gotta rap in Chinese, bro.
Everything rhymes.
Listen, guys.
Well, hey, Sean.
Come on.
Oh, yo,.
Oh, I got some more.
Ben, I forget, though.
Are we going in the notes, bro?
Yeah.
Hold on, hold on. Yo, hold on. Ben, I forget, though. Are we going into notes, bro? Yeah. Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Yo, hold on.
Professional.
Calm down. Bust.
Bust.
No, no.
Not jokes.
Not jokes.
Go in your notes.
Yo, go in your notes and bust out something that you wouldn't say.
Go in your Twitter drafts.
Twitter drafts.
Let me see.
Drafts?
Yo, go into drafts.
I just let those fly.
I wonder if I have drafts on Twitter.
Oh, I got drafts for days.
God forbid someone get on my Twitter.
Bro, God forbid. Don't get on my group chats. God forbid someone get on my Twitter. Bro, God forbid.
Don't get on my group chats.
God forbid.
The shit would be insane.
Yo, I just want to know what you say to Ash, bro.
I want to know what Ash says.
On your back and wet up.
Bro, Ash, have we told this story already?
Already.
You know the vibes.
We want to tell it.
But Ash is an almost married man.
He has a child.
But back in the day, on your back and wet up.
Oh, bro.
Bro. Bro. You taught me. and weight up. Oh, bro. Yeah.
Bro.
He taught me.
He taught me.
As he taught me.
Shout out to my boyfriend.
As he used to tell me,
he goes,
there's a thing with Australian women because of the equator.
He was like,
for whatever reason,
living south of the equator,
he goes,
women won't get wet
unless you demand them to.
Yeah, and he was like,
on your back and wet up.
Yeah, but I obviously
never tried that.
Is that what that is, bro?
I thought they squirted
the opposite direction.
I thought that's what it was, bro.
I thought it went the other way.
Swirly.
With Ash, they just go,
no way!
No way!
Leave me alone!
We had a good night in Perth, Ash.
Yeah, I like the picture.
It was cool.
Bro, we need a good party night in Oz.
Go come to Sydney.
No, no, no.
We need a good party night in Sydney.
No.
New Zealand, bro.
Can we go wild in New Zealand, or is it all nature?
I'm not trying to hunt deer.
I don't want to see some hobbits.
Easy.
Come. Come. Easy. wild in New Zealand or is it all nature? I'm not trying to hunt deer. I don't want to see some hobbits.
Easy. Easy.
That's a callback for the real ones.
They know.
They know the back of the day.
You know.
It's still like that out there, but
We need to do
Auckland.
If you guys come to bro Like you can sell out
You will sell out
We need to do Auckland
No, no, look at me
You will sell out in Australia
You will sell out in Auckland
Wherever you go
We need to go
Bring the whole gang
We'll do a pod
You train
Oh, we'll
We'll
Will you do a minute of stand-up
If we do Auckland?
No, no
We'll work with you on it
We'll work with you on it
We'll work with you on it
30 seconds
One one-liner joke
We'll work together
We'll work together
Oh, maybe
They work with you, do it Maybe We'll make sure it's right Yeah 30 seconds. One one-liner joke. We'll work together. We'll work together. Oh, and if they work with you, do it.
Maybe.
We'll make sure it's right.
Son, that was an honestly great joke.
It took me a second because I'm dumb.
I still want to say it.
It was a great joke.
The answer.
Mark it!
I bet you could say it.
You know what it is?
I feel like...
You're just with the boys.
That's what you're doing right now.
You're just with the boys.
You think we're doing karaoke.
When a kid...
I remember.
You know how when a kid...
That's a deep cover.
That never happened.
That never happened.
I wasn't there.
It never happened.
I wasn't there.
Bro, I remember telling Ash.
I remember telling him, like, yo, Ash, I'm going home.
You good?
And he was just like, we're good, mate.
I promise
No
There's no bathrooms in New York look at miles knowing he gonna be up to five in the morning
Miles you better pack a Zinn you will be editing all night Miles is not going to sleep tonight. Get the Adderall some Zin, Miles.
You better pack a Zin.
You're going to be editing all night.
He's so unhappy.
Her a** keeps you up.
Who'd you hear that from? We heard.
We heard.
Not you.
Not in Miami.
Definitely not.
I heard.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a wonderful stimulant.
For me, for me.
Yeah.
But you did it.
Yeah, yeah.
You did it. That's what we've been saying about a lot of shit. For me, for me. Yeah. Yes, exactly. But you did it. Yeah, you did it.
That's what we've been saying about a lot of shit.
You doing Kanye lyrics now?
Respect, bro.
I like that shit, bro. That's fire.
I know.
I know.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
The greatest.
Nah, we outside.
We outside, bro.
We're still good.
We're outdoors.
Bro, this is fucking awesome.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I did the blacked. If you remember. Those ones you know. That was 2019.
Dude, like then.
First one that came in 2018, I think. Yeah.
That was the first time I came back with the belt.
Yep.
Bro.
I just did a blacked one.
Like literally.
And Al just came back from Sweden, I think.
That's right.
Nigga was arrested.
Yes, bro.
How many soaps you drop?
He got his nails painted now, so you know.
Yo, you did come back from Sweden with your nails painted, bro.
That was very peculiar.
Son, you think I'm taking over there, bro?
Wait, wait, wait.
He's doing the taking.
I'm doing the taking.
Were you delivering?
He's doing the taking.
Wait, wait, wait.
My man's pitching.
You know baseball.
Look at you, bro.
Did no one try to know what you're talking about?
I did a pitch, the first pitch, so that's how I know.
Oh, shit.
You didn't see me? I saw. I saw. At the, at the first pitch so that's how I know oh shit
Fuck
Yeah, Marlins chain. Did you have a good was it good? Oh was a 50 cent? I hit it I hit it. I didn't send it. Why?
Like Mario mmm. Mmm. I believe 50 cent did down purpose. No, he didn't
I believe even when I did it, you know what I was like cuz I am me again
I had that chick that did the back flip, so it wasn't
viral, but I'm like, after I saw that, I was like, maybe I should have just missed.
Yes, because that's what goes viral.
Then it goes viral, yeah.
Exactly.
Because they want to see you fail, and they're like, ah, look at this motherfucker.
50 didn't do that.
But for me, I don't think it was on purpose.
I think McGregor should have taken the watch off.
He kept his watch on.
He could have thrown him off because it's so heavy.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I took my watch off, and I was like, all right, I'm going to send this. But I think 50 didn't should have taken the watch off. He kept his watch on. He could have thrown him off because it's so heavy. You know what I mean?
So I took my watch off and I was like,
I'm going to send this.
But I think 50 didn't do it on purpose.
He just didn't bring his arm back far enough for me to think it was on purpose.
You got to think, like,
hood dudes look at baseball like,
what the fuck is that?
It's pussy.
Yeah, so I was like,
use a bat for a different reason.
He never threw a baseball ever.
I practiced it on the pitch.
I practiced with another guy.
Stay right there.
You're good.
It's good.
Go.
Thanks, buddy.
But yeah, for me, I was like, maybe Loki.
I was like, this is like the next.
I was like, I should have missed.
If I had missed, I'd have done something funny.
Or chucked it into the stands, bro.
Why?
Because, man, it's like not hitting the catcher is what's going to make the noise.
It was like, boop, boop.
And it was cool.
We dapped up.
The guy was cool.
The guy was cool. I can't remember his name now, but he was cool to make the noise. It was like, boop, boop, and it was cool. We dapped up. The guy was cool. The guy was cool. I can't remember his name
now, but he was cool. I think Jesus.
They probably, most, you got a 50%
chance of being right.
You got a 50% chance of being
right there. But like,
Jesus, maybe Miguel.
It's like, if you were at a soccer stadium
in Qatar, it's Muhammad.
You're going to be fine.
Yo, if you did a crazy leg kick before you pitched, that would have gone, that would have done something.
Yeah.
You could have kicked the fuck out of your leg.
I thought about doing something cool, like crazy or cool, but, like, yeah,
Messing would have been the one, so that would go viral.
That would be the one that, like.
Yo.
Yeah.
Kids one day.
Bro, I'm going to be the best dad.
That was wild.
I do think.
No, I know.
You know, I'm so proud of this guy.
No, no, no.
I wanted to do that.
No, no, no.
You don't have kids.
What if I talk?
Are you going to talk or am I going to talk?
Listen, I think that we should be those parents that leave it out, bro.
Well, respect.
We both leave it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck Target, bro.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just, yeah.
We'll be like Amanda and Mia.
I said nothing.
I said nothing.
Yo, shout out to Amanda.
Great career.
Yes, yeah.
Respect to the females.
But kids one day, yes?
I'm going to be a great dad.
Also, I'm being blessed to be surrounded by all my friends,
like Jesse, who danced with me
in Melbourne. Which one was Jesse?
Because there was three dudes you had. He's the one in the
middle with the Broken Native tattoo on his forearms.
He had Broken Native as my boy.
Beard or facial hair? Beard, yeah.
He's the one, his
daughter, his firstborn is my goddaughter,
Lexi. She's the best.
Frano, he's a Grammy Award winning producer.
He produced Rich Spirit, Kenneth Lamar in Waihi Beach in New Zealand.
That beat was all in his house.
He made that.
His son, Camille, he's my boy.
I love him.
And Eugene's kids, they love me.
I've been blessed to be surrounded by kids and be able to watch them grow. So I can't wait
to have kids one day. But for me, it's
different now.
Oh shit, I'm about to get
real. I just felt myself.
I never get this. For me, it's different.
I'm not trying to
be with nobody. I'm not trying to do any of that.
But it'll happen. I don't look for it. It'll happen. But you not trying to like do any of that but like it'll happen
I don't look for it'll happen, but you do want to have fun. No, it's gonna happen when it happens
It happens. Fuck you fucking little clap tries. I'm trying to get me pregnant
Me pregnant. Oh, that is fine. That is next level. Happy Pride Month
But like, you know what I mean like for me it's like I mean, you know when you get to this level now like
I'm lucky cuz I got married before.
Yeah, you're fine.
You're fine.
Married, married.
Al is fine.
He's ready to get married.
No way.
When did you get married?
23 years old.
Your birthday.
Yeah, thank you, bro.
Now you're in a tricky situation.
You know what I'm talking about.
I'm very mindful.
I'm very mindful. I'm very mindful.
I like to have fun, you know.
I got the starting five.
Put it this way.
I got the starting five.
No, but the trickiest thing here is, right,
is, like, you want somebody to be...
What is that?
No, the starting five different, bro.
That, bro.
I'm saying, like, bro, bro.
Who's got the first seed, though?
That's what I'm wondering.
You know what I'm saying?
That is crazy.
You got five girls watching right now, like, am I number one, two, three, four?
Yeah.
They're checking the money line.
I don't know what's coming up.
Hold on, hold on.
Felicia, Trina, Katrina.
Hey, try to go.
About three Kims.
Latoya and Tina.
Oh, she got her.
She put her thing up.
He's checking his Snapchat.
Do you have three?
I'm dying right now.
Is that Snapchat? I'm dying right now. Is that Snapchat?
I'm dying right now, bro.
Anyway, I gotta go back.
Take it back.
Tell us about the three Kims.
Like, how often are you in Korea?
So I think she might be
number one right now.
I mean, that'd be a good,
that's a good number one, bro.
Respect.
That's a number one.
Bro.
They're all watching this right now
and they're like,
I wonder who she's showing.
She got a heavy chest.
No, you can't say that.
You can't say that.
No, no, no.
He's being honest.
She will nurture your babies.
Oh, no, she will.
Bro, she will nurture me.
I love breast milk.
It's good.
That's all the nutrients, man.
That right there is crazy, bro.
Hold on, hold on.
Why your Wi-Fi shit?
Oh, no, she's not even Wi-Fi.
That's not the Wi-Fi.
That's you.
But can we go back to her, though? We're trying to look at your Wi-Fi. Ha, ha no, it's not even Wi-Fi. That's not the Wi-Fi. That's you. But can we go back to her?
We're trying to look at your Wi-Fi.
I don't like that fight.
Market.
Market.
Mayo.
You'll be up till 8.
Yeah, you're on the market?
Is that what you mean?
Yeah, I am on the market.
Bro, that's the tricky thing.
Ooh!
Ooh!
Right down, right down.
I'm on the market, bro. I am for sale.
Oh, Nubar.
Al, act like he's on The Voice.
Like he about to turn his hair around.
I like it.
I think it's good.
He became a Nigerian dad really quick.
You know what I'm saying?
You don't rap.
You don't rap.
I'm about to press.
The ball was caught in my eye.
That was adorable.
That was adorable in the documentary
when your dad was like,
we know he make no money doing this,
but when you need money, come home.
Yeah, exactly.
That was adorable.
No, but that's what I mean.
My parents, though,
they didn't believe in my dream,
but they always supported me.
That's so sweet.
Bro, your parents have like a really interesting confidence.
That's like your own bullshit, bro.
Is that a cultural thing?
I think it's Nigerians.
My parents have been very supportive and everything.
And a hundred percent.
Dancer mom.
Yeah, like there is some-
Big balls dad.
Yo, son.
Mom with the heavies.
Mom got the hems, bro. That she do. That, son. Mom with the heavies. Mom got the heavies, bro.
That she do.
That, bro.
Nope.
I'm breast milk.
I'm trying to be a stepdad.
Relax.
Sandra, he didn't mean it, Sandra.
Sandra, he didn't mean it.
Sandra, he didn't mean it, Sandra.
Sandra, he didn't mean it.
Larry, Larry, he didn't mean it.
I know, I know, I know, I know.
Leave it in, Miles. All respectfully, respectfully for the heavies. But no, but didn't mean it. I know, I know, I know, I know. Leave it in, Miles!
Oh, respectfully, respectfully.
But no, but for real, bro, having parents that are supportive is...
Like, my mom didn't have support, so she got bras.
Oh, respect.
I'm running down.
That's mine.
That's mine.
That one was crazy, bro.
Come on, bro.
Why you blocking, bro?
Why you blocking?
That was a good one.
That was a good one.
Why you blocking, bro?
He had a bar.
That was a good one.
Thank you, bro.
That was a good one.
Thank you, bro.
You need your boys to gas you up.
Al's trying to pull me down, bro.
He had a bar.
That was a bar.
Crab's in a barrel, bro.
Son, for real, bro.
Isn't it?
Yeah, dude.
Bro, is that why you guys like to boil so much?
Because they're fucking crabs.
Damn. All for two. Yeah, dude, is that why you guys like to boil so much because they're fucking crap Not my set I got I might have to do one thing. Oh, bro, I'm just a red carpet.
Fuck it.
We're having fun.
I don't care.
Yo, listen, we out here.
We outside.
Is my wife here?
Just ask her if she's here real quick.
Where's our Kawasaki?
Kawasaki's here.
Wasabi.
I know, but I like saying...
Wait, what is Kawasaki?
It's a motorcycle.
No, but what country is it from?
Japan.
Is it Japanese?
Yeah.
Okay, I'll take it.
That's fine.
Kawasaki.
Bro, you need to get on the Zins, bro.
The Zins are crazy, bro.
What does it do?
It gives you the hiccups.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hiccups.
If you ever wanted to just like chill with the boys and throw up, that's a good way to do it.
No, that's a good way.
If you're just like, yo, I could really just chill with the boys and throw up.
Yeah, if you're ever like, yo, I really need to throw up right now.
That's a good way to do it.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Hold on, let's listen.
I don't want to wrap it up.
I'm having fun.
No, we're not wrapping it up.
No, you never wrap it up.
I need to know.
I need to know.
I need to know.
I need to know.
You know what's funny, though?
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
What is funny about that?
What you mean by that?
What did you mean by that?
Yo, you still got to wrap it up, though. Isn't that crazy, bro? What by that? What did you mean by that? You still got to wrap it up, though.
Isn't that crazy, bro?
What is that?
No, no, I'm joking.
Shout out to Plan B.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Plan B.
I never pulled out from a fight, but my pullout game's strong.
You haven't learned the rubber guard yet.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Eddie Bravo, man.
Come on, bro.
Tim Flannan, I see you.
I see you.
That was a good one.
Boy, he's clever.
Wallahi.
Wallahi.
Wallahi.
Can I ask you a question?
What's the touching the parents' feet thing?
In Yoruba culture, it's, yeah, but not even their feet.
Like, the proper ways you prostrate.
So I'm on, like, a push-up.
Because I've been wanting to touch women's feet before I talk to them for so long, but it's disrespectful.
Can I just say I'm Yoruba?
Can I just say I'm Yoruba?
Why the name?
Can I just be like, boom, whatever.
Why are you making it like that?
In Yoruba culture,
when you prostrate, the girls, they kneel down.
The boys,
so you prostrate.
It's almost like a push-up fully.
But when you're in public in this, like, you know, Western world, they don't understand.
So you just touch the ground in front of your parents.
I did it fully in the cage.
That's the full prostrate.
But then in public, I said, hello, mom, hello, dad.
Because I didn't see them until yesterday for the first time in this trip.
So just prostrate is a sign of respect.
It's the ultimate sign of respect.
Wow.
And will girls do that, too?
They kneel down. They kneel down.
Yeah, they do. Yeah, they kneel down.
The knees are all...
You horny little motherfucker.
Akash so horny, bro?
He is. I see it.
Akash so horny, bro.
Who was on the pod?
Lisa Ann or someone else, man.
She was rizzing you.
Yo, but she was whizzing,
and Akash was trying to throw it back, or someone else. She was risen you.
Akash was trying to throw it back,
but he was so horny, bro.
Akash is one of the most horny guys I know, bro.
What do you think? He's Indian.
They horny, bro.
They horny, bro.
You caught that one. Thank you. What did he say?
He's here?
Let me know.
Shout out to the bobs in Virginia, bro.
Baby, send bobs in Virginia. What is your advice for Akash who's so horny all the time? He's here? Let me know. Shout out to the Bob's and Vajim, bro. Baby.
What is your advice for Akash, who's so horny all the time?
Because sometimes it's a distraction.
Like, sometimes we want to start the pod, but he's just so fucking horny, bro.
I be trying to fuck shots in his mouth all the time, dude.
Yo.
You know what I mean?
Can't help it, bro.
I got shows, bro.
You're going to hurt me, bro.
Open wide.
He's a big boy, bro.
He's a big boy, bro.
This is a big boy.
You know how small and cute he is?
No, but the thing is crazy.
The thing is crazy.
That's what I mean.
He's small and cute, but I know.
I know.
I know the vibe because I haven't seen his.
But you know the energy.
The energy is crazy. Energy recognize energy. I know. He should look like't seen his. But you know the energy. The energy is crazy.
Energy recognizes energy.
I know.
He should look like a potty plant.
We're all brothers.
Look at that right now.
He's fixing his mic.
Chill out, chill out, son.
Chill out, son.
Put it away.
But do you have advice for him because he's so horny?
You ever heard about semen retention?
No.
He did that for about 34 years.
Let's go. Let's go!
Let's go!
It went to his gut, though.
It went to his gut.
Yo, that shit is in his hips, son, for real.
He got nut in his hips.
How do you get the nut out your hips?
What do you do, Pilates?
You just got to jerk it over your hips.
Just rub your belly comfortably.
Oh, man. Oh, no. belly, come from your navel.
Oh, no.
Man, I don't know, man. But we need to think about ways to get...
Are you really horny?
He's a horny guy, bro.
That's why he can't sleep.
He's got insomnia.
Bro, literally, he stays up to four in the morning every single night jerking off like a chimpanzee with a rat ass.
Yeah.
He wears his codo on his dick, bro.
For real, honestly.
Shout out Punjab. on his dick, bro. For real, honestly. Yo, shout out Punjab.
Let's go, baby.
Yeah.
Yo, so this dance is just warming up the wrists.
Once again, the.
Once again, the.
No. Gali gali chode, pakistan chode! Gali gali chode, pakistan chode!
Gali gali chode, pakistan chode!
Shout out to the Pakistanis, bro.
We love y'all, but y'all thieves!
Give us Kashmir!
Did y'all get Kashmir back yet?
Is that the fabric?
We're taking it by force.
It's the fabric he used to wipe his cum off his butt.
I don't even show up tonight.
Oh, don't, bro.
Bro, he doesn't know that.
You gotta show us tonight, bro.
I don't want to do that because he ripped my fucking jeans two weeks ago.
That's six.
I love that.
Was it water, though?
Yeah.
Okay, let's keep going.
I'm about to jerk off.
Look.
You see how they divide though? Yeah. Okay, we'll adjust. Yeah, I wouldn't have done it if it was anything else. Okay, let's keep going. I'm about to jerk off. Look. You see how they divide us?
Yeah.
Hey, Vala,
you see how they divide us, bro?
Never.
This is like what Izzy got in China, bro.
Wait, call me Val.
There's that noodle drink.
I thought it was Jordan.
Nah.
It is Jordan now.
I'm sorry, Vala.
Khan.
No, no, no, I know, I know,
but you said yesterday
when I...
Oh, yo, Vala said
he pulled up to you yesterday.
He was like, what's up?
And then you held him
at a distance
and you were like,
are you here to drive
a van through my school?
Bro.
Fuck you.
Leave it in.
Leave it in.
Leave it in.
For me, you know
what it's like sometimes.
Alice Prime, For me, you know what it's like sometimes. Al is primed.
If an Indian accent comes out right now, Al is about to walk off set.
If an Indian accent comes out right now, Al is walking off set.
Listen, Al, we're not talking about it.
Al, everybody chill out.
You got your sights set on the target. I'm not going to bring it out. You got your sights in on the target.
I'm not going to bring it up.
Al, we got to meet up later.
Yes, we do.
That's it.
Let's go back to the show.
Where are we supposed to meet up again?
How many spots are you doing?
At the corner of the parking lot garage.
But perhaps, Al.
That's crazy. Listen, I'm wet, bro. I can see house perhaps. That's crazy.
Listen, I'm wet, bro. I can see that.
Your boy's wet.
Some Zin's tequila, Coca-Cola,
burps. On your back.
And wet up. Hey, Ash,
control yourself, bro. Oh, you felt it? My bad.
It's a smash.
Cheers to you. Bro, what a
fucking journey, man. What a life.
What a life. I don't think,
there's probably people listening right now
for the first time.
Mwah.
They don't even realize
like what's happening.
Like what the come up is
and why this is so crazy for us.
Not just me.
You guys as well.
No, no.
Like I said,
it's cool to see,
like you say,
last time I pulled up to the studio
it was just me, Ash,
and I think one other person.
Now I got a whole
gang, squad, army.
Same thing when I was there.
Scotiabank twice.
We did all right.
Bro, that's crazy.
We did all right.
Shout out Toronto, man.
We did all right.
But then, same thing.
On the other side, see what you guys did, started off with, and then see how it expanded now.
Yeah, man.
To what it is in the army.
And, bro, four years from now.
What are we going to do, man?
Nah, like, I can't wait.
So we're going to be in little playgrounds
with the kids and shit
telling our glory stories, bro.
That was funny, though.
That'd be cool.
It took the pressure off me.
Bill Bird did.
What did he say?
He said something about having this kid at 40
that kind of like he got rid of all of his,
not got rid, but like took his...
Handled a lot of his demons.
Yeah, his demons.
So you don't pass it on to your kids.
There's always going to be stuff you're going to pass on.
Bro, not to bring back to the doc,
but it's like, it's one of those things
where like seeing you go through a little journey.
I do think that that is an issue.
See me as a kid?
I had a big ass head.
Like the same size head, but a skinny body.
That, yeah.
I looked like a lollipop.
No, I did.
Like, you see it.
There was that one photo in there, I was like, I was at one of my uncle's weddings and I was just like...
Did you look back at photos of you and be like, I understand why they bullied me a little bit.
Yeah, I get it.
No, I get it.
No, also I was annoying.
I got, because again, people please a thing.
Yeah.
And I didn't realize sometimes it can annoy certain people, so I didn't know how to pull back, so...
It must be a black thing, because I had
a big ass head when I was a kid, too.
Al, you're not black, bro. Stop it.
Stop it, dog. Can we tell
him what you really are? He's Puerto Rican black.
No, he's actually... He's not, bro.
What? I feel like they're lying.
I'm tired of keeping this secret.
Al's actually Mongolian, but he's
been acting like he's black the whole time,
bro. It's so funny.
And nobody gets it.
That's Genghis Khan.
Dude, he is.
That's Genghis, bro.
For real.
He fucked the whole world.
Damn.
I'm an outside.
Al's getting married, bro.
International banana.
What?
For real.
International banana.
Yeah, man.
My man's outside.
But Al's going to get married, though.
It's like a boomerang.
And then it comes back? Yeah. Is that a Blood Diamonds move? It's a national banana. Yeah, man. My man's outside. But Al's going to get married, though. It's like a boomerang.
And then it comes back?
Yeah.
Is that a Blood Diamonds move?
He's in Australia right now.
He's helping Volk. He's helping Volk with, because he's helping Volk because he's out here.
What is he helping Volk with?
What exactly is he helping?
What is he helping Volk with?
I see where you're going.
I see where you're going.
What exactly?
He's helping him spot.
Helping him spot.
Helping him spot.
Nah, but like he's uh Because diamond is like I said, you know the drive by the Scorpio does that with no one even yeah here that zombie knockout
Remember that you need a guy who's got weird striking to get there for yeah
Yeah, but you seen that you seen that knockout, but it but the knock wait, which one you talking about the one way
Zombie yeah the back. Yeah, they both
Seconds the same But the knock, wait, which one are you talking about? The one where he did the- Jair versus Zombie. Yeah, the back. The last fifth round.
The last 10 seconds.
It's the same.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
Timing.
Wait, that's Diamond.
See the way he did that?
Diamond, that's the drive bar, the scorpion kick,
but he doesn't want his leg.
And he hit me the first time he did it.
I was like, what the fuck was that?
Which one are you going to hit me?
Literally, same thing.
But yeah, so he's doing that right now and getting ready.
Probably he might be there in July
I'll be in Vegas in July
so when are we gonna do something
no cameras
nothing
we all gotta go somewhere
to reflect
tonight
yes
it might be tonight
we did karaoke
what about karaoke
yo we didn't hit
karaoke was fun
karaoke was so much fun
bro like
that's the thing like
yes
and after that was fun too
yo yo yo
Al
why you snitching why you snitching he's gonna snitch Al what you telling me are you wearing a wire thing like yes and after that was fun there was no after yeah we went home
after singing yeah journey That's it. If you don't know, now you know. Nigga!
You know what's funny?
At the boxing, the fights, because they played it, and I was like, blow up the world,
and then if you don't know, now you know.
I just looked around and I was like.
I'll be trying to catch him.
I don't care.
I just want to know.
I was like, who's great?
Who's great? Who's great?
What we got?
Bambola.
Oh, respect.
I put it in once in a while.
Where's that been?
Where's it been?
The whole episode.
It was a press offer before.
Came out of nowhere and just manifested it.
Hold on, I got to pee again.
Hold on.
What are you doing?
I got to pee.
I got to pee.
Who got to pee?
Who got to pee, son?
Who got to pee?
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What is that?
This one
I want to know
It's literally legal, they sell it at fucking stores
It's nicotine
It's nicotine that goes into your bloodstream
It's nothing
It'll make him nauseous
If he doesn't like it Okay If you want some of that. No, no, no. It might make him nauseous if he doesn't like it.
Don't do it.
OK.
Look at his eyes.
If you want some of that.
Ah!
Look at his eyes.
What?
His eyes are like, don't do it.
No.
No.
Bro.
No, no.
You want one?
I'll try one maybe tomorrow or later on.
I just want to know what it is.
I just want to know what it is.
What about kratom?
Is that that?
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh.
Oh. Why do they have to be sour about that? What about Oxycontin? What even is that? What about chocolate mushroomsratom? Is that... No, no, no, no.
What about Oxycontin?
What even is that?
What about chocolate mushrooms?
Okay, hold on.
What about meth?
What even is meth, right?
What even is meth, bro?
Listen, here's the deal.
The fact that Ash is the guy that's keeping you in line... I just wanted to...
...is one of the fucking craziest things that's ever happened in history.
This is the wildest human being I've ever met in my life.
The fact that he's keeping you together.
You know what's funny?
We need more Jack Daniels.
I wonder if you need a guy like that to keep you in line.
I need a babysitter.
But if he's too straight, then you're going to be like,
fuck this guy.
What the fuck do you know?
You don't know what I've been through.
You don't understand my struggles.
Bless me.
They can bless me.
My bad.
That was so good.
No, no, no.
Relax.
I felt that.
I like it straight.
Hey!
We're good.
I knew we prepared.
Yeah, put a little.
Yo, but Ash, why don't you drink something?
Hey, I am.
You don't drink shit, bro.
You don't have any fun.
Get fucking pissed, Kyle.
You don't have any fun.
What the fuck?
Let's go, Ash. Let's go. Let's go. Shit bro, you don't have any fun fucking fun The fucking legend
legend
Listen can we get can we get ash and chairs?
Drag a car shot one time. Yes one time. Yeah, cuz I never think how would you tonight? No, I'm gonna drink I know but you can hang out. No. Yes. One time. Not because I've never been out with you.
Tonight.
He doesn't drink.
I know, but he can hang out.
No, no, he sucks cocks.
Also, he fucks.
He doesn't.
Neither.
No, he fucks.
Come here, come here, come here.
We're bringing you a chair.
Hold on.
Get him a chair over here.
We have a jackhammer.
Yeah, drop it down, drop it down.
Get him a mic or something so we can have it.
Sit back here.
We'll eat tomorrow. This is our last night.
Can we bring that mic over?
If I have to stay one more night,
then six people have to stay one more night.
Then it's like the logistics.
In Puerto Rico, we were like... Where did you guys stay in Puerto Rico?
Ritz. Oh, my God.
After one of my USA fights, I'm going straight back there for a whole week.
I want to try every breakfast item on that menu.
It was so fucking good.
Really?
Oh, is that good?
Wait, where at?
Puerto Rico's.
They treat you good.
Oh, my God.
Come on.
Bro, Mark got the low sundaes in his system.
Hair coming out.
This guy.
Come on, son.
I literally just turned.
I was just like I was like oh shit
You got it, you got it, you got it. Hold on, do you need?
Do you need?
I'm good for now.
Okay, do you need ice?
Can we get some more ice in here?
Nigga, I like room temperature.
Nah, fuck rooms, bro.
No.
No.
Rooms and their temperature, bro.
Damn, this guy.
Rooms and their temperature is overrated.
Cheers.
Fair, fair, fair.
Listen, yo, Ash, sit down, my boy.
Come on, come on, come on.
Yeah, come on, come on.
Come on up, brother.
Yeah, come on up, come on.
Yo, right out the bottle, my boy.
On your back and wet up. On your back, my boy. On your back and wet up.
On your back and wet up.
On your back and wet up, you mutt.
Your dog.
Your dog.
My dog.
A VB.
Three-second pull, right?
Bro, what is that fucking viral shit in Australia?
What was it that we saw?
Drinking a VB.
Yeah, your dog's cunt.
That's a beer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck. Wait, why? You don't fuck with the VB. Yeah, your dog's c***. That's a beer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yuck.
Wait, why?
You don't like, you don't f*** with the VB?
So.
VB's good.
No, for me, for me personally, my dad used to distribute Guinness all over West Africa.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that was like one of his businesses.
So when I was about maybe seven or eight, I remember just being like, what does that
taste like?
And he's like, have a sip.
And I was like, oh, yuck.
So I didn't drink until I was 18
because I just thought every alcohol tasted like Guinness.
But then I was 18 and I found bourbon and Coke, Woodstock.
Then I understood.
When I first got drunk, I remember like,
oh, that's why that girl's crying outside the party.
Oh, that's why that guy wants to fight everyone.
It's like my eyes was open to why drunk people do what drunk people do.
What did it bring out of you?
I'm just a fucking golden retriever, bro.
I'm, like, happy when I'm drunk.
But, I mean, if it gets down, it gets down.
But I'm a happy drunk.
I'm not one of these guys who drinks and then, like, I look for static.
I'm not that guy.
Is it weird now that nobody wants static?
Not anymore, but back in the day when they did,
like maybe three years ago,
people get jealous, guys.
They try and say,
I'm like, bro, I'm not going to whoop your ass for free.
The fuck?
Why would I whoop your ass for free?
That's so fire.
What a fire line.
Nah, like literally.
Also, Google me.
I'm tough.
Who the fuck are you?
Yeah.
It's because no one knows who the fuck you are.
You're trying to prove yourself.
Oh, so you would have guys still kind of pushing up? Yeah, back like about two, three? It's because no one knows who the fuck you are. You're trying to prove yourself. You would have guys still pushing up?
Yeah, back about two, three years ago.
Now no one would try me.
Also, I have...
The big ones.
No, no, just say no, no, no.
What about the crippled one you have?
Hey, hey, hey.
Where's my phone? Give me my phone.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Shout out to your boy.
Fuka.
Bro, he was hobbling, but still being security. Give me my phone. Give me my phone. You better go. Shout out to your boy. Fooka. Fooka. Fooka.
Bro, he was hobbling, but still being security.
It was the most endearing, beautiful thing I ever seen.
Like him thinking something was going on
and like hobbling over as quick as he could.
Bro, that man.
Nah, but like, so Paulie,
former super heavyweight King of the Ring champ.
Whoa.
I just walked outside.
We know about Paulie.
I just walked outside and there's F Paulie. I just walked outside.
There's Booker asleep.
That's so cute.
That's so cute.
But he got locked down.
Yeah, he locked down.
He locked it down.
Explain King of the Ring to people who aren't familiar with the tournament.
It just happened in a recent one.
And Cam Ralston.
Oh, my God.
He just also Cam.
Shots of Cam.
When we were at St. Karaoke, we had your boy.
What was his name?
White kid who was with us.
He did King of the Ring.
Oh, Joe Hopkins.
Was it him?
King of the Ring, Shazza.
No, no, the last time we were doing karaoke, he was with us.
He's in New York now, and he was training, but he, I remember when you first came to
the gym, and he was like, oh fuck, this kid's a problem.
White kid.
White dude.
He was kickboxing dude.
He did King of the Ring back in the day.
Not mine. What's your name? What's your name?
Mark.
Mark.
Joe, Joe, Joe.
Joe Hopkins?
Yeah, that's my boy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He lives in New Zealand though. He lives in New Zealand.
But he was with us.
Yeah, he came for the fight.
Okay, he came for the fight.
Yeah, yeah.
He was good people.
Yeah, he's the man. He's the man. He's the man. So Cam Roston just won the recent King of the Ring, but also one of our boys, Ash Jordan Sully, was in the finals with him.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
And when you have to fight your boy that you kind of train with, it's different.
It's a different energy.
So apparently no one from our gym was in the corner.
We had to get different people.
Because you don't want to go against your guys. Of course.
It's the skills.
It's like the best.
Shout out to the gym, though.
The gym is producing the two guys that are at the best.
But it was a crazy fight.
Cam won, but apparently the final seconds,
excuse me, the final seconds was Ash rocked Cam.
And he was on wobbly legs, but then about,
I think it was about eight seconds before the bell.
And yeah, but I'm glad I wasn't there
because if I was there, I would be in a nervous wreck.
So the concept is like eight man tournament, right?
So it's like, I'm not sure if you mentioned,
but it's like you fight three or four times.
If you win it, you fight three times.
No, that night.
That night.
Break your hand in the second fight.
You still fight.
Watch this.
I've won it three times in King of the Ring.
How many times you break some shit in the middle of?
None.
I broke faces.
Sturdy.
But not my own.
For me, I've won, actually, I've won how many eight-man, I've won four eight-man tournaments
and I've won one four-man tournament.
And King of the Ring, I won three times at two different weight classes.
Wow.
The thing with tournaments, though, when you do it, you're like, after the first fight,
you have an adrenal dump or adrenaline dump.
So you have to kind of like regulate yourself and don't go too, because when you fight, it's like you're up here and you come down.
You have to regulate yourself.
You have to adjust.
Adjust and then put your jacket on, stay warm, wait for the next fight.
Oh, shit, I didn't think.
After the fight, you have to adjust and then you have to fight again.
Again, second one, semifinals.
But what I like to do is I go sit in the crowd with my friends and I have my jacket on
and I just be in the vibe
and then the final fight
and you get over there
and then you just show out.
But to win an eight-man tournament
is no easy feat,
especially in kickboxing as well.
It's, yeah,
you have to,
it's a special feud
when I do that.
And to win it once even
is cool, twice, awesome. Three times, never done. I do that. And to win it once even is cool. Twice, awesome.
Three times, never done.
I did it.
Yeah.
God did.
How injured are you going into that third fight?
Sometimes.
You are.
I mean, nose is sore, jaw is sore.
Not mine.
I fight smart.
Legs.
Oh, you're getting chewed up.
No, from kicking.
Oh, fuck.
You're taking damage.
For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Baby. Yo, shout out Newton, fuck. You're taking damage. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
Baby.
Shout out Newton, baby.
So when you're kicking, obviously, throughout the fight, right,
your shins are starting to take damage.
Yeah.
Like you said, by that third fight.
No, I'm fine because, like, also adrenaline, pain tolerance.
But I just know I've had experience.
Also, I had Doug Viney, who's one of my coaches,
who's the owner of CKB.
He's won a few of those, and he kind of just coached me
my first one in Pukako years ago.
He coached me and just made sure, like, I was fine.
Like, sorry, I'm just going to try and put this mic.
I catch you, bro.
Thanks, baby.
It's almost like a rite of passage, like, to the UFC from our crew.
You've got Israel one and three times.
Yeah.
Bud Diamond twice.
Carlos Olberto twice.
Yeah.
And now Cam that he's speaking of.
We just got him signed to Dana White Contender Series.
Beep, beep, beep.
Beep, beep, beep.
He'll fight in September.
Obviously he's fighting for his spot and it's one of those things on that show
you've really got to show out.
Yeah.
So, you know, because even if you win it doesn't mean you're going to get signed.
But, yeah, like he's won twice now,
and actually just won on the weekend,
that's who the guy's talking about.
So a lot of our guys, we push,
and that's just a kickboxing match,
obviously they're going into MMA,
but that's how well-rounded, obviously,
the gym is and the guys are.
They're making the both.
I love that Craig is out there with you guys.
Yeah, oh no, he's back in Austin now.
That guy's funny as hell, bro.
I feel like I'm back in Austin now.
We had him here, but I follow him on Instagram.
Yeah.
And that motherfucker, he's marketing it brilliantly.
He is, man.
He's on some 8 Mile shit.
You can't say anything about it.
What was his new shirt?
Was it Keep Jiu-Jitsu Gay?
Yeah.
And then there was like, what was it?
I was seeing someone else's called Craig Jones.
Yeah.
There was like there was something online that he posted.
Oh, yeah.
And it was like there's someone else called Craig Jones
and he was like, I don't know, something happened.
Like it was like they outed this guy called Craig Jones.
I don't know what it was about.
I can't remember now.
But it was like, and he was like, oh, it was because I wore the gay shirt.
Or something like that, you know.
Like it was like. So the other Craig Jones was gay. Oh, I don't know. Nah, it was like, and he was like, oh, it was because I wore the gay shirt. It was like, you know, like, it was like.
So the other Craig Jones was gay?
Oh, I don't know.
Nah, it was something.
I don't know what it was.
Dude, he's just managed.
Like, he's owned everything that's happened.
Even calling it B-team jiu-jitsu.
Second place.
If you're in first, you're second.
Bro, yeah, yeah, he's great.
I think what he's doing is absolutely great.
I swear, like, when I, because I've rolled with high-level guys, Andre Gavale. Yeah, I. Bro, he's great. I think what he's doing is absolutely great. I swear, because I've rolled with high-level guys.
Andre Gavale.
Yeah, I saw that.
I've been to Atos Jiu-Jitsu in San Diego.
The Rotola brothers, fucking amazing.
I've seen those guys in one championship.
So they're beef.
They're magic.
No, no, but like, it's so good.
But when I roll with Craig, it feels like magic.
Because I'll have a DOS choke locked up.
But he knows there's levels.
No, no.
The first time we did it,
this is why I bring this up
is because the dog stroke,
I had it locked up.
I'm like, I got this
and then within one, two moves,
he's on my back.
I'm like,
how, Sway?
Keep Jiu-Jitsu game, bro.
He going to get on your back.
You got to motivate him.
Got on the back a little bit maybe
but still, it's just, it's wild. wild the way does it and it's just his intellect
He's a really smart guy. Yeah, Bob talks about it as well. Like, you know, it's been a big pillar for him
Is that why you really but does Volk an advantage fit like his head is just right on his shoulder
Bro I think there's an element of that. I think there's an element of that. I think there's an element of that. That's legendary.
The fact that he even survived it.
Legendary.
But that was the first time that Craig came in on that camp.
So Craig came in on the Tough show
when Alex did Tough versus Ortega.
And it just so happened that
obviously all the time and the work they did there
ended up like Alex got in that position.
And he was able to...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And when they worked on it before the fight, like right before the fight, they worked on it before they walked out. ended up like Alex got in that position and he was able to yeah yeah yeah and so like
and when they worked on it
before the fight
like right before the fight
they worked on it
before they walked out
and for Alex
to survive this guy
who's a submission specialist
his guillotine
get out
deep guillotine
bro that shit was crazy
and then fall into a triangle
T-City
bro
fall into a triangle
and then get out
of his other move
and then for the
remainder of the third round fucked him up for like 30 seconds yeah how do then get out of his other move and then for the remainder of the third round
Fucked him up for like 30 seconds. Yeah, I'm like get out of the guilty. I feel like once you in it you're done
This levels there's techniques. This is like I'm not after rolling gay rumors, bro.
You're going to get passed me first, baby.
Is that the next level for your guys' crew is becoming experts in jiu-jitsu as well?
You guys are known for the kickboxing.
No, no.
Not me yet.
Fuck, I want to say.
Not me yet, but Dan, that's his thing. Hangman, he'll hang you. Oh a lot of like Dan that's a sting hangman
he'll hang you oh yeah yeah that's a sting he's uh you know that's a cameras
was really we get to see Dan again then Dan July is there's fighting good
challenge Jonah that's right Jalen that's why yes it's one of those fights
where lucky he'll you know can is so could tell, like, I knew when he got one tattoo,
his whole body would be tattooed with him.
Bro, he went crazy.
Bro, bro, bro.
I knew immediately.
He had a taste.
That's it, that's it.
You should see his legs right now.
You gotta get him on the head.
But he got the shades, right?
Bro, no, his legs look cool as fuck.
Yeah, I've seen them, yeah, yeah.
I'm used to it now a little bit,
but still, when I go back, I was like,
fuck, that's cool.
It's just like a whole piece.
And I can't wait to rattle around someone's head.
Bang.
It's just, oh, bro, it's going to look so cool.
Bro, we did a show in Vegas, and I think he was at—
Came on stage.
And he came—but I've never seen somebody who's never been in front of, like, people for that reason be so calm.
Yeah.
He's like, oh, okay.
He's a psychopath.
He's a psychopath.
He actually is.
He's a psychopath.
He got ankle-picked and let it happen. Yeah
In New York like I watched it it was popping it's insane. Hey, well if my leg breaks my leg breaks
It's like guys like that's especially good. I was like
Bro, just yeah, so being in a theater. There's nothing
Yeah, yeah what we do is
Yeah, there's nothing, bro. No big deal. Yeah. What we do is, yeah, it's a special feud.
It's a special feud.
But not everyone can get to this point.
Even as a fighter, not everyone can get to that point where it's like, they're just,
like the me and Gastelum.
People think I was joking about that shit when I'm like, bro, if I die here, I die here.
That's it.
No, I don't.
Who thought you were joking?
No, no, no.
You guys, you're my boys.
But like most people go, oh, this is just bullshit, whatever.
But I meant that shit. That's real. Because it's that moment. most people go, oh, this is bullshit, whatever. But I meant that.
That's real.
Because it's that moment.
I was like, bro, this is where I die.
This is where I die.
But if I'm ready to die, I'm ready to kill.
And I was trying to kill him.
I was trying to kill him.
Have you spoken to him since?
He's gone back to Walter Wade.
I fuck with Gasolum.
He's the man.
I've talked to him.
He was fighting on my last card as well.
He was there.
So here's a question I have, and this kind of ties into the Pareda fight where there's like
a kinship after.
If the fight is more of a war,
does it make you guys
closer after?
Yeah, because you push it
down to that limit,
that level.
So I'm grateful for Gaslam
because he made,
he, it was one of the,
one of the greatest moments
of my life
was that moment
before the fifth round
and that fifth round
because he pushed me past
my limit that I thought I had. I thought I was like, I didn't know I was, I wasn't done. Like, he hurt me in the fourth round and that fifth round because he pushed me past my limit that i thought i had i thought i was like i didn't know i was i wasn't done like he hurt me in the fourth
round i'm wobbled and then me and eugene i can't remember what he said i wish i'm gonna ask the
ufc to get the mic of what was said in the corner because i want to know but he gave me he didn't
give me any like corner advice you just kind of gave me the speech this is motivating me just like
something to like this is what you're born for. We're built for this.
And I remember this, what I was saying,
I remember Brad Riddell's voice in my head going,
embrace the darkness.
Cause he was saying that to me when I was in the Airdyne.
He's like, you know, embrace the darkness, go numb, go numb.
So then when I said, you're not gonna beat me,
I'm ready to die, I'm prepared to die, I meant that.
And when you get to that place with someone
and they push you past that,
you appreciate them way more.
Like, there's a scar on my face.
If I look in the mirror, I'll point it to him,
but I can't see him right now,
but, like, I know he's got a scar on his face from me that when you look at it, you're like, ah.
But same with Pereira.
I appreciate Pereira because he made me a better fighter.
He made me a better athlete because he pushed me.
He beat me three times, and I was just like, bro, I need to be better.
I need to go to that next level so I can, like, you can know yourself.
You can realize who you are as a warrior, as a fighter.
So, yeah, I'm grateful for those moments.
And, yeah, after that, even me now with him, I'm going to make him a better fighter.
I just fucking did what I did to him.
It's going to make him better. It's going to make him better.
It's going to make him better.
Is that the darkest corner you've been in?
Ooh.
For fighting?
Life, no.
Fighting?
Oh.
I want to say him and Gastelum, it's like, not here.
No, you're right.
Yep.
Yep.
Who?
Pereira.
Because this last camp, I just, he's seen me. Yeah. Yep. Yep who Pereira because this last camp I just
He knows me I'm a freak he knows what it was like before even the first Whitaker fight Rodman Dennis Rodman
Dennis Rodman I like vacations. Yeah, we do
Like I work hard I play hard and I've always said I'm no one's hero.
I'm no one's guru.
But if you take a reflection of my story, it's cool.
But, like, yeah.
Now I'm mature.
I know my body.
I know my mindset.
And like I said, if Rob wins this fight, I know what I have to do to get myself up for this fight.
Fuck it.
Breaking news. I'm going to submit him.
Rob.
If Rob wins this fight, I'm going to submit him. Whoa Rob was this fight. I'm gonna submit him
If he wins this fight, I don't care. I'm not gonna knock him out
I'm gonna submit him even though you could you wanted to sign very mocked him out of how many times like
Knockouts
What that's a weird thing that like you have to do as a. Find ways to get yourself interested. Find him a third time.
But it's not just fight, it's like the camp.
Yeah, what is the inspiration for it?
Why are you gonna get on the bike?
Why are you gonna run?
Why are you gonna do the cardio?
Yeah.
So if he wins, I'm gonna submit you.
If you win.
If not, Drikus, I'm just gonna.
Mark it!
Mark it!
Mark it!
Fuck out of that!
Jesus.
That's a fucking no.
Bleep it!
And we're back.
No, no, keep it in, but just bleep it.
No.
No!
Bleep it!
Why can't you bleep it?
Yeah, bleep it.
Yeah, bleep it.
Hey, hey, hey.
Nothing's been said.
Nothing's been said.
Look, I'm just going to said. Nothing's been said.
Nothing's been said.
We don't even know what you want to bleep.
We don't even know what you want to bleep.
Nothing's been said.
I will own him against his will.
Bleep it!
Hold on.
Try again.
Try again.
Try it one more time.
Try it one more time.
Try it one more time.
I got it.
I got it.
I will bait you.
There you go.
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The reason I brought Craig in, because
of the work he did with Volk, but also
I vibed with him in Perth. We hung out and I was like,
you know, like...
He's good with people, bro.
He's the man. You know when we became friends?
You remember where we became friends?
We got security coming in.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Something's going on.
Uh-oh.
He's awake.
The guy got amen on his hat.
He's awake.
No, but, like, so me and Craig, we became friends that way as well.
But then he's a long guy.
He's got these limbs. He knows how to use it. And I was like, so me and Craig, we became friends that way as well. But then he's a long guy. He's got these limbs.
He knows how to use it.
And I was like, you know what?
I want to learn what you know about the human body
and like constricting people.
So that's why I brought him in.
And yeah, if Rob wins, I'm going to constrict him.
There's one thing that I, real quick, real quick.
There's one thing I noticed about grappling
is that the grappling cardio is different
from the striking cardio.
I have only just gotten mauled on the ground.
No, no, no, no, no.
Shout out to Tim.
Oh, you got a strong little grip, bro.
Trying to little what?
Hold on, let me let you grab someone else.
You say little?
Oh!
He's in there, baby!
You see that?
You see that?
Stop.
I've been here before.
I learned that from Tim Welch.
Bro, this guy was choking out Tim.
He was choking out Tim Welch and then tapped out while he was choking him out.
I've never seen anything like it.
Tim, let me choke him.
Oh, right in the head?
No, no, no.
It was, oh, I put the leg. No, no, choke him. Oh, right naked? No, no, no. It was, oh, I put the leg.
No, no, it was guillotine.
I think it's guillotine.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
You put the leg over on the back?
Is that guillotine?
Yeah, guillotine.
Yeah, guillotine.
And then he was.
He's mad flexible.
He was like, son, I got flexible here.
So he goes, he goes, and he goes, keep going, keep going, keep going.
And I couldn't do it.
Because he wanted me to bring him to the point where he was asking me to choke him.
But your arms gassed out.
No, my emotion gassed out.
My empathy showed up.
I just didn't want to go there with it.
What were you going to say?
Oh, yeah, while we're doing breaking news, there was a fight we all wanted a couple years ago.
Yeah.
Jon Jones.
Yeah.
Is that still possible now that he's gone up?
It's not even that.
It's kind of like the Alex thing where everyone's like, oh, we need a fifth fight.
And everyone else is more bricked up for that than me and him.
I'm not interested in a fifth fight with Alex.
Unless he comes up and gets another belt.
That's exactly right.
Most people are like, look, everyone are 3-1.
You got to make it.
It's 1-1 in MMA.
You got to do a third one.
And I was like, no one cares.
But I think it's me and John's the same thing. Even like on Impulsive, when they said what they. And I was like, no one cares. But I think it's me and Jones the same thing.
Even like on Impulsive, when they said what they said,
I was like, I thought it was a joke.
And then he actually had to pull it up.
And I was like, oh, that's funny.
But it's...
What happened with it?
Just Jones gave him props, I guess,
from a martial arts perspective, I guess.
He said, you know, he was asked the question,
like, who are you a fan of?
And he was like, well, actually, like, I'm a fan of Israel.
Oh, fire. Bro. That's the thing
It's like fire if there's one thing which is promoting a fight and there's another thing which is
Martial arts right there is fighting and that taps into like what you know
We were saying earlier about like that even when they two guys fought each other, but then they become yeah. yeah. The connection. What the fuck are you doing?
So Izzy's an alien.
So Izzy's an alien.
So Izzy's an accident.
So Izzy's an alien.
We figured it out.
Watch this, watch this.
No, watch this, watch this. No, you need to open it.
Yo, yo, yo, watch your pants.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Give me that.
No, no, no. No, no, no. Give me that. No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Just slowly.
Rip it, baby.
Rip it, baby.
Come on.
Let's go.
Slowly.
Watch.
No, no, no.
I'll get you wet again.
I'm already wet, bro.
You know,
Hakash got me wet constantly.
He's his father's son.
Big ball.
That's it.
Okay, listen. It's dying,z. That's it. Okay, listen.
It's dying,
bro.
It's fine.
Just open a
fucking regular
Alex.
Izzy, there you
go.
Izzy.
Go pee.
Go pee.
Go pee.
Go buy some
bars, you failure.
He's gonna
rap again.
Yeah, you gotta
pee again if you're
a white-ass
dick, Alex.
What's up, bro?
Wow. Why a white dick gotta dick, Alex. What's up, bro? Oh, wow.
Why a white dick gotta be a diss?
Huh? Huh?
Yeah, why?
You got that Moby dick.
Come on, we got the...
Yo, shout-out to Moby, bro.
You know...
Shout-out to Moby.
Wait, get it?
Moby Dick, Big Whale, White...
No, no, I'm just saying
shout-out to Moby
for going for the big ones, bro.
I thought that was the whale.
Moby's the whale.
Oh, I thought it was dude.
Are you talking about the techno producer?
His name is Moby Melville.
No, Moby did.
No, what's his name?
Captain Ahab.
What's the guy's name?
Captain Ahab.
Ahab.
How do you know that?
Shout out to Ahab, bro.
How do you know that?
No, but Ahab was after the sisters for the longest, bro.
That's what that whole story is about, bro.
Ahab was like, I need the big booty Latinas, bro.
That's what it is.
It be like that. It does. I need the big booty Latinas, bro. It be like that.
It does. I remember in Puerto Rico.
That's a great story.
Ash got a chill
up his spine.
He said,
hold on.
Anything that starts with
I remember in Puerto Rico.
That was just what you were talking about
with all the breakfast items?
Puerto Rico, go.
Okay, go on.
You remember in Puerto Rico,
Ash was never there.
He's not a part of the story at all.
Fun time.
Why are you cleaning your throat?
What's in your throat?
The girl needs to clean her throat.
Hey, man, calm down. I was on the phone with Toaster, man. I don't know what you're talking about. What's this?
I see a gas jack down there.
Okay, fair enough.
You know what's funny?
We were on a worldwide fucking platform and yeah.
I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're talking about. platform and yeah.
Can I look at that?
Even Jeff stops filming.
Even Jeff, the videographer,
who films every moment of your life,
even he's like, hey, cut the cameras,
bro.
As he said,
Jeff started drinking beer.
As he said, Jeff knows when to film and when not to film.
We don't know when not to film.
We have to figure that out.
We can cut any time, but I just think I'm just having a good time.
I'm having a real good time.
You're going to need to send this up before it ends.
You don't need to know.
Like I said, I'm grateful.
I'm just stoked for you guys, bro.
Like Izzy said, you know, like coming back in 2018 when we were here,
you know, like when we came through,
it was like that little place in Brooklyn.
Was it in Brooklyn?
No, we were in Manhattan.
We were down there.
The pool was outside.
It was the pool.
We went to the wrong address.
We went to Brooklyn first.
It was in Brooklyn.
Oh, yeah, y'all went to the wrong place.
We went to a Jewish house.
Oh, bro.
So we pulled up, right?
So we went to the wrong place.
It was like a Jewish joint. Yeah, so we pulled up outside. It was like old school. Hasid a Jewish house. Oh, bro. So we pulled up, right? So we went to the wrong place. We pulled up. It was like a Jewish joint.
Yeah, so we pulled up outside.
It was like, okay.
Hasidic Jewish neighborhood.
I see.
The noodle heads.
The curls.
What?
The noodle heads is where he used to fight.
Okay, that's right.
That was China, bro.
You're talking about the Abraham Lincolns.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yo.
Hey, oh, whoa, hey.
All right.
Calm down.
I'm all killed, man. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right Whoa, hey. All right. All right. Compton. I'm all killed, man.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Lockdown.
Yeah, lockdown.
Well, yeah, so we pulled up, and it looked like I went back in time.
That's what it is, bro.
That's what I was like.
What the fuck?
That's what it is, bro.
And then we text you guys, and then da-da-da-da-da.
We were like, wrong borough.
Yeah.
And then we, but again, what do you guys have this for?
Oh,
go to 75th Street and 63rd
on fucking 20th.
It's like,
what the,
it's all this,
like,
I don't get it.
I know.
I'm from here.
You guys are from here.
How long did you live in China
and you still couldn't
figure out fucking math?
He said he aced the women,
not the test.
Good point. Good point, the test. Good point.
Good point, Gangnam.
Good point.
Plus, we're asking him to drive.
You ain't learning that in China.
No, Nigeria.
Wait, is it crazier?
Bro, it's like everyone's on a race to nowhere.
Yeah.
Legit India.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yo, can I ask you a question?
I can't wait to go.
Ghana's really coming up.
Is Nigeria a little jealous that Ghana's coming up right now?
Okay, I lived in Ghana for about a year and a half.
Oh, really?
I cry.
I beckon a pause.
If you know, you know.
Like, I went to Sunnyside Primary School.
I was out there in Ghana.
I dropped a watch at the bank.
We ain't jealous.
Also, Jollof Rice came from Nigeria.
Don't start this shit.
I'll cut you.
Talk that shit.
Talk that shit.
But who got the best?
Just be honest.
Nigerians.
Ghana, dog. Who are you the best? Just be honest. Nigerians. Ghana, dawg.
You're Puerto Rican.
He said that mad effort.
The accent came out.
Puerto Rican.
It's Puerto Rican.
I'm just saying, Ghana.
Ghana protected it.
Why is this Mexican talking to me
about jolloof rice?
About Jollof rice?
Where did this guy go talking about Jollof rice?
Oh.
Oh.
I went to Apple.
They're going to share, Nick.
I'm just saying.
Hold on.
Wait, hold on.
Get your hands behind you.
Hold on.
It's Nigeria.
They can feel how they want to feel.
It's different.
It's Ghana, Nigeria, and then there's one more.
Who has the Jollof?
That's fire.
What is it?
Ghana was the one I remember.
No, no.
S starts with an S.
Sudan?
No.
Senegal?
Senegal, yes.
Senegal.
Everybody said Senegal got the best.
Well, everybody.
He's in Canada.
I'm just saying.
That's what I said.
I was like, yo, Ghana got the best.
Ghana.
Ghana. No one Ghana Nigeria got the best
what's that little chicken dish they got in Nigeria
the chicken skewer thing or whatever
no no no
suya
it's not chicken it's normally goat meat or beef
Jeff knows
hey you are what you eat
alhamdulillah
G's up dog
but
suya is the best food
it's my favorite food
on the planet
because
also I've had it in America
the best I've had
you are what you eat
the goat bro
you get it
you just got it right now
you dumb Puerto Rican
you got no bars
you got no bars
you dumb fucking Puerto Rican
no bars bro
that's why you got no electricity
that's why you got no electricity
because it took you fucking
two minutes
to get that fucking joke.
Holy shit.
God damn, Al.
Come on, Al.
It took three times.
Come on, Al.
One second.
It took me a second.
You said it back.
Bro.
I'm getting jokes slowly, too,
but you said it back twice.
Hold on.
Still loading.
Shout to Central C, bro.
This guy.
Get out of here, dog.
Get out of here. You on my roll, bro. It's not going to fit out. I got to Central Sea, bro. This guy. You on here, dog? You on here.
You on my real good.
He's not going to fit out.
Show him the nice stuff, bro.
I got a women's wristband.
Put it on your pink shirt.
This is beautiful, too.
Yeah, but this is nice.
Put that on your thumb.
Wait, are we talking about watches?
Where's Blood Diamond?
Where's Blood Diamond when you need him?
Bro, I have the Captain Mel.
Look at me.
Yo, that's beautiful.
It caught my eye.
It just caught my eye.
I was like, oh, shit.
Calston Alou.
African dude sold me that at AP House.
Where?
Where?
Brooklyn on the corner?
Now you got to question it.
Now AP House and Flatiron come through.
On Canal Street?
Yeah, I've seen that.
Holler at that Lou.
That's beautiful.
Yo, I need one.
I like that.
So when I go high,
they're like,
oh, don't ice it out.
If you ice it out.
Hell yeah,
I'm going to keep my connection.
If you ice it out,
it loses value.
Exactly.
I told you this earlier.
Remember I hit you?
You asked it out.
Because I want to be a rapper.
No, he needed one.
I'm rapping.
That's why.
I want to rap. Yo, he needed one. I'm rapping, that's why. That's why he's rapping.
I want to rap.
Yo, he's rapping.
But I hit you immediately.
Yeah, we get you that.
Please?
Yeah, we got that.
I'm going to do that.
I connected you with them.
I remember, I connected you with the people, yeah.
You know a lot about this?
You know a lot about this?
But that's factory bezel.
Yeah, yeah.
That's factory.
And he's bought one for his dad, too.
Exactly the same.
That's what I like about his phone.
Respect.
My mom's birthday was on June 10th, which was Saturday.
Why are you laughing, son?
Well, you were saying factory bezel, and then you said he got it for his dad,
and all of a sudden you were like, oh, respect.
Factory?
No, you don't get it.
No, no, no.
It's okay.
He wears an Apple watch.
He wears an Apple watch.
It's good. He wears an Apple watch. That's all. He wears an Apple watch. That's good.
He wears an Apple watch.
Yeah.
Factory bezel means it's worth it.
I got that on my necklace.
I got it iced out, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same, same.
No, no, no.
I just play videos on it.
No, no, no.
That's how it works.
So factory bezel means it retains its value.
Rolex put the diamonds in it.
Yeah, exactly.
Not some dude on 47th Street.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
So I bought one for my dad, but some dude on 47th Street put the diamonds on it.
But it's not about that.
We don't do that.
We don't do that.
It's about the nachos in Beverly Hills or wherever,
but it's about the sentiment.
So me and my dad now, we're like twins.
My mom's birthday was on Saturday.
What'd you get her?
I'm gonna get her a Rolex.
Fire, dude.
She doesn't know yet.
Not yet. If you don't know, breaking news, bro.
Breaking news.
What one does she want?
Because I know she's going to be picky after watching her observe fights.
Honestly, man, she doesn't know everything.
Jan's striking was less than acceptable or whatever.
You need to get her some fun out of shit.
No, I'll get her.
We'll all be triplets.
I'll be honest.
Your parents seem like they're very difficult to impress
When when did you feel the first time you impressed them like oh, you know, it's funny, but that dancing video they reacted. Yeah
He was good at dancing
Then but before that when I start well talent quest when I pulled to the council s when um the video you guys saw
One of my I I think, deputy
principals or deans, he
like, he was like, have you ever seen him dance
before? And they're like, no,
we haven't. And he's like, oh, you're going to be impressed.
Like literally.
And then they saw me do what I
did. They were happy. It's whatever. But
if you're not a doctor,
accountant, lawyer, engineer, you're
what? A failure.
But dancing impressed the fuck out of
them.
Now it does.
They appreciate it now.
That's interesting.
Akash, I imagine you've gone through the same thing.
Indian culture has this, very similar to Nigerian culture,
where there's this pressure for success,
but there is this appreciation of the arts.
If you're nice at dancing,
there's like...
We're singing.
Mainly for us, only the Indian stuff.
If you dance American,
they're going to be like,
I don't even understand.
But still, if you're a great singer,
if you're a great dancer,
there's an appreciation.
Bollywood is huge.
People don't understand how big Bollywood is.
Even in Nigeria?
In Africa, it's huge.
Bro, I don't know if you know Dharamvia.
No.
So Bollywood movies on Sundays was the thing.
After church, we'd go home and watch it on TV.
Oh, I also had the VHS's I used to watch.
But one of my favorite movies as a kid was a movie called Dharamviyah.
Shub!
I don't know that one.
Hey, thank God, bro.
What the fuck was that?
We have an Indian fact-checking.
Okay, go on.
He's a real Indian. Yeah. That's what God, bro. What the fuck was that? We have an Indian fact-checking. Okay, go on. He's a real Indian.
Yeah.
That's what God sounds like.
What the fuck was that?
You're right, though.
He's from India.
Yeah.
But like, yeah, Dharam Veer was my favorite movie.
It was a sword fighting movie, whatever.
But like, yeah, that was part of the culture.
And that was something that like, as a kid, I remember just watching VHS over and over.
I should probably watch it again as an adult.
100%.
Just so I can be like... Because your life is
a Bollywood movie, bro. Yeah.
Is there a Bollywood star that you fuck with that you'd like to
meet? Let's put the call out.
I was Slumdog.
That showed he was that.
My God.
My God.
Frida Pinto.
I know the name.
And Dave Patel was the guy. Dave Patel.
Oh, okay. They're the guy. Dave Patel.
He's a beast.
He's pretty, bro.
He's one of the most handsome motherfuckers I've ever met.
No shit.
Your wife's a lucky woman.
She always says you're handsome and I'm like, chill.
That's mine.
I'm not even mad at you.
That's mine.
It's like a trifecta.
Keep going back and forth.
Share energy.
Yeah, why not?
Share energy, share dick, share pussy, whatever.
All right, calm down.
Calm down.
Man, man, man. Locked up.
Locked up.
Locked up.
Locked up.
Chill out.
Chill out.
Find out.
You got to chill out.
Yes, what we doing?
Is that the 10-second rule?
No, no, it's a sig.
It's a sig.
It's just a sig.
Two sigs, two sigs, two sigs.
No, you can't have.
Oh, my bad.
I got it.
My bad.
Sorry.
Hold on.
I got it.
I got it.
I got it.
You got it.
Wait, is it sig or like joint?
It's sig.
It's sig.
It's sig.
Please.
No, that's waste.
That's a waste for you.
That's a waste for you.
That's a waste for you.
Waste money.
Yeah, do your thing. Smoke up, smoke up.
Yo, the UFC lets y'all smoke weed, right?
Like it doesn't matter.
Well, depends.
I wanted to ask.
You mentioned mushrooms a few times.
So mushrooms is fine?
It's not a performance enhancer.
It is.
It's not a performance enhancer.
It enhances if you allow yourself,
if you're fighting from up here.
Yeah, you gotta put the work in. So if most people are fighting from up here. Yeah, you got to put the work in.
But most people aren't fighting from up here.
Not just fighters, but even like football players.
I've seen guys talk about microdosing.
There's a football player who was talking about it one time.
I saw it on Instagram.
He was talking about like, yeah, when he's, again, sports, he's like in the front.
Thank you.
Thanks.
Thanks, Mark.
I got you, baby.
You have competition. Oh, shit. Thanks, Mark. I got you, baby. Aw. You have competition.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Don't worry.
Hey, you should OG.
I'm bottom bitch, dog.
I'm bottom bitch.
The original game.
Enjoy these new hoes.
I'm getting twisted.
Enjoy these new hoes.
Nah, but like.
Yeah, I am that.
Oh, fuck. Happy Pride Month. Yeah, I have that. Oh, fuck.
Happy Pride Month.
Yeah, happy Pride Month.
Happy Pride Month.
We're celebrating.
What a life, yo.
Yeah, what a life.
But we're here, bro.
We're here to sing.
We're here to live it.
Performance enhancing.
Yeah.
There was a football player that was my friend.
You're talking about like, hey, were you in that The Line thing?
Wait, who?
Adrian Foster?
Arian Foster.
Or Arian Foster?
My bad. I just did this podcast.
You got a podcast on Barstool?
Oh, it went over your head?
No idea.
Bro, bro.
I did Barstool. I did a homeboy. What's his name? Mustache.
Oh, Caleb, bro. He's great, bro. He's the best.
He called me a rat. It was good.
Wait, why?
I called Dove. Wait, what?
That's different. That's slightly different.
That's slightly different.
Hey, what? That's different, that's slightly different. That's slightly different. Say what?
Say what?
What's going on?
Gully gully jorde!
Fire star jorde!
Gully gully jorde!
Fire star jorde!
Crumpet, crumpet.
Easy.
Crumpet and clown.
Crumpet and clown.
Hey, hey.
No, but wait, but we are.
Catch one, Chrisette.
Go. Name? Miles. Miles, I was gonna say Mark Wait, wait, wait. Can I ask one question? Go.
Miles.
I was going to say Mark.
My bad.
Miles.
How long did you do that for?
What?
They don't look like it's fun.
Three hours.
I don't care.
No, no, no. We're not done.
I cut my hair for a reason.
No, I know.
Just celebrate.
I feel you.
Fuck the red carpet.
I want to hang out.
We're trying to do blow-os.
You trying?
Do it again.
Okay, okay, okay.
Let me get an O. Let me get an O. Can you actually do it? Yeah. Come on? Do it again. Okay, okay, okay. Let me get an O.
Let me get an O.
Can you actually do it?
Yeah.
Come on.
Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
How many dicks can fit in that O?
How big?
Not-
Oh, come on.
Bigger.
Bigger.
That was solid, man.
No, actually, that's impressive, but-
It's not diamond, but it's good.
It's ruby.
It's cubic.
That's Mosley right there.
Oh, wow.
What a life.
I wish, I don't know.
I know.
There are people listening that know.
Are we live?
Yes.
Four years ago.
They know five years ago what has happened
in all of our lives since then.
Think about all of our lives
and how it's changed
in the last five years.
Wow, crazy.
And this is an awesome time
to just chill and reflect.
What a time to be alive.
What a fucking time.
What a life, bro.
That's the thing for me.
When I'm like,
sometimes there's been times
when I'll be inspiring
and I'll watch like,
before I was actually
warming up,
everyone's warming up,
and then like,
the first time I did it was during lockdown,
so we quarantined at the gym
when they allowed us,
fucking New Zealand,
and then, this is before the Costa fight,
and then I remember I was wrapping up,
and I looked around,
and I saw my boys was wrapping up
before the fight,
because we're living at the gym
because it's lockdown,
so we just locked down.
We had fights in Fire Island,
and I remember looking around,
and I was like,
fuck, this is cool, man. This is cool. This is some fucking gladiator shit. We had fights in Fire Island. And I remember looking around. I was like, fuck, this is cool, man.
This is cool.
This is some fucking gladiator shit.
Everybody else is in their home.
You guys are in a gym still.
And then we was chilling, hanging out, trained, chill.
And then just like, I remember we were rapping.
I was just like, fuck, this is fucking cool, man.
Like, we're just badasses.
You guys, New Zealand was a very peculiar situation.
There was a horror movie that was filmed in New Zealand,
and I spoke to the director about it,
and he filmed two horror movies.
What's the name?
It was part of a trilogy.
Soul?
No, no, no, Dove, who was the guy's name?
Ah, fuck, I forget this guy's name.
I spoke to him on the phone.
But what was the lady, you remember the guy's name?
Three part.
Ty West. Oh, yeah, Ty ty west ty west came out there he was like that so ty west was on the last flight to new zealand and he got to
new zealand he was there to film a horror movie x and pearl well he was there to film x right
and i've heard of these and no it blew the fuck up. The guy's brilliant. Okay. And while he was there, he hit up A24, which is a production company.
One of the people there was for your documentary.
They were there watching.
Okay, I bet.
And he goes-
I know so much.
Bro, I'm out here.
I'm seeing who's there.
You know what I mean?
I want to make sure you-
Come on, bro.
Thank you.
And he goes-
And he hit up the production company.
He was like, listen, I know we're going to be locked down for a while.
Do you want me to film two movies out here?
Jesus. And they ended up filming two because New Zealand
was wide open. So they filmed one there that
was fire. What is it called?
Pearl. First one was Pearl
or X? I'll tell you.
Anyway, but it was just New Zealand was this
one place that was completely open. You guys lived
a life that was different than most of us.
For a while. It was X and Pearl
and then the third one's going to come out. Yeah, he's doing the third one now. Maxine. us. For a while. It was X and Pearl, and then the third one's gonna come out.
Yeah, he's doing the third one now.
Maxine.
Yeah.
It was fun for a while.
He's brilliant, this guy.
Yeah.
Ty West is brilliant.
I met these guys even out here as well,
the Raka Raka brothers.
Oh, I love those guys.
So, bro,
who loves them more?
He loves them more.
They've been making YouTube videos forever.
They were backyard wrestlers.
They were using real VFX for
Star Wars or Harry Potter.
But wildly violent
in a house. It was trash. And all of a sudden
you just see that they got this deal for
they had a horror film
with the hand.
I saw a trailer.
Talk to me.
What's the movie called?
Speak to me or talk to me. Was that Sund the movie called? I just remember this band. Speak to me, or talk to me?
It was at Sundance.
No, but the Raka Raka Brothers.
It was at Sundance, got picked up.
But they're legit.
They're legit, they're legit, they're legit.
My brother's a fan as well.
824, Bob.
David?
Talk to me.
Talk to me, yeah, yeah.
Because I didn't know who they were
until he or Tim introduced me to them at the hotel,
and they are cool, and they pitched something to me that I like.
I won't say what it is.
No.
No.
This is the first time Ash has told you to talk
on the whole podcast.
Now you can go.
I think it's awesome, so that's why I'm saying.
I don't know if it's going to happen yet or not
because of timing.
Bro, you being a villain or a hero
in a fucking horror movie. Insane. Nah. Nah, you being a villain or a hero in a fucking horror movie.
Nah.
Nah.
You'll see.
Wait a minute.
Yesterday's price
is not today's price.
But it's not even about that.
For me, it's about the moments and capturing.
Everything first is fighting.
I've already turned down,
trust me, I think three major motion pictures
because I had fights booked.
I was like, I can't.
I'm not going to be that guy that just goes through acting
and then loses what I'm doing with fighting.
You're not going to be Andrew?
Andrew who?
Andy Schultz.
Oh, no, no.
Bro, I put my fighting career aside
so I could be in you people. Bro! I could have one line and you... No! No, no, no, no. Bro, I put my fighting career aside so I could be in you people.
Bro!
I could have one line of you.
No, no, no.
That was funny.
You in the gym?
Thank you.
That was one of my kids.
It's all the same, bro.
It's all the same.
It's all the same.
It's two movies.
Two movies.
It's two movies.
It's not the same.
What's another one?
White Man Can't Jump and You People.
Oh, I haven't finished it.
I've watched it in the first 10 minutes.
Don't.
No, I will finish it.
I will finish it.
I will finish it.
It's an amazing movie.
Yeah, I will finish it.
But I watched You People.
That was funny.
That was really funny.
But yeah, for me, it's more about, like, I just don't want
to jeopardize my fighting career because I
want to be a superstar.
After this, I can do whatever I want.
Motion capture, voiceovers.
I'll have my own production company.
Video games.
Let's go.
Video games.
Motion capture.
Video games are crazy.
But that's why I don't,
like the whole 20 fight shit,
like cut it down to like five.
I'm saying.
Like you already there, bro.
Well, two is less than 20.
Say 20.
No, but I say 20
because that's like a ballpark figure
because I know how much,
me and Volk are the most active UFC
Fighters not even champions. Yeah, but talk that shit fighters because a lot of people don't realize it like
When we're not when I'm done what he's done
Don't miss us. Hmm. Most people don't down do it like us. Yeah, we're not I'm being honest. It was fucking
We're here cause the ever and with that in your reps
But everybody shit We're out here. Put that in your reps. That's what needs to go in there.
That whole shit before.
There's a little line in the documentary
where I think when you came in,
you fought six times in the first year.
No, five, five, five.
They said six in a dot.
I think it was six in a dot.
My first year in the UFC,
I fought five times in a year and one day. That's insane. They said, oh, you fought four times and a dot. My first year in the UFC, I fought five times in a year and one day.
That's insane.
They say, oh, you fought four times in a year.
I'm like, yeah, it's a year and one day.
I fought five times.
Shut up.
But that's unheard of for most people.
Some guys do it, but they're not the same level when you're a champion.
You know what I mean?
Talk that shit.
And keep going.
Keep going.
So when we're done that's what i'm talking it's hard because a lot of guys even like they don't pick the hardest
guys they're trying to like hide i didn't have to fight pereira i didn't have to fight romero
costa i wanted to fight like but certain guys i just like you know what no you want to know
i want yeah because i want to like i don't care if i win or lose it's more about just the
experience and taking these guys' heads.
That's what it's about.
And like I said, in those moments when I'm sparring, I'm like, this is not forever.
I'm going to do this shit for a little bit longer.
And when I'm done, I'm done.
So when I'm done, I'm done.
So, yeah, I enjoy it while I can.
And you should, too.
You should enjoy it while I'm here.
When I'm done, it's gone.
Yo, but people are so fickle, bro.
Fans are fickle. They don't even recognize that shit. Yo, but people are so fickle, bro. Fans are fickle.
They don't even recognize that shit.
Yeah, but I don't expect them to.
That's why I don't try and please them anymore.
I'm just like, it's whatever.
And there's one guy, bro, on the way here, bro, this guy jumped out of his car.
And I see him at the hotel, and they know where I am at now.
He jumped out of the car, and he's just like, bro, can you sign this?
I was like, bro, I just took a picture with you the other day.
He's like, yeah, but can you sign this? I'm like, no, I just took a picture with you the other day. He's like, yeah, but can you sign this?
I'm like, no.
And Ike was like, fuck off.
Like, tell him to fuck off.
I'm like, bro, I'm not going to reward stalking.
Yeah.
I just tweeted that.
I literally tweeted it right afterwards.
I said, I'm not going to reward stalking.
But it was like, why are you?
He drove from Ariel, was stalking us from there.
But I was like, I took a picture with you yesterday.
But then you stalked me at Ariel.
And I know, like, they want me to sign these things.
I'm like, I know what you're doing.
I'm not stupid.
You're going to sign this shit.
And early on, I'd sign 20 shit for one person.
But eventually I realized, like, hang on.
I know what you're doing.
eBay.
You got to have some respect.
You saw Drake do that to that fan?
Drake did that to the dude.
He put him on game.
He put him on game.
Yeah, he was like, bro, take care of yourself.
Exactly.
Don't be doing this shit, being out here.
But he put him on game.
I did that actually recently on the way back from Puerto Rico.
So there was like these black kids and this dude.
And then as I was walking through the airport, I just hear, oh, yo, stop it.
And he's like, yo, I got to get a photo.
I got to get a photo.
I was like, the fuck is that? And I was like, oh, yo, stop it. And he's like, yo, I got to get a photo. I got to get a photo. I was like, the fuck is that?
And then I was like, nah, fuck off.
And then his coach was trying to take a video.
And then Craig Jones was like, what the fuck?
Put his phone down.
And then we were waiting in line.
And then we went to the shop, chilling.
And you could feel the energy when someone was watching you.
And I remember like, hang on, this is a teaching.
I learned this from Jason Momoa.
Long story short, at the airport,
on the way to Miami,
I see him at the airport in New Zealand.
Well, they put these little two kids on game
because they're trying to sneak a photo of him.
And he kind of like, stand up, hand up straight.
So I learned from him.
And I was like, hey, kids,
and I told my security, chill.
I was like, hey, that's not how you ask for a photo.
If you want to ask for a photo,
you say, hey, Israel, I'm a big fan.
Or, can I please get a photo? You know, like, be respectful. I'm trying to big fan. Or can I please get a photo?
You know, like be respectful.
I'm trying to sneak some shit.
I got to get a photo.
I got to get a photo.
It's entitlement.
Thank you.
So I was like, and then all of them were standing right there.
And I was like, and I put them on camera.
I was like, so you have to, and I was like, who wants to say it?
And they were like, I was like, who wants to say it?
Oh, Israel, can I please get a photo?
I was like, thank you.
Who's got the best phone? Give me a phone. Boom. Took a selfie. And I was like, I wants to say it? Oh, Israel, can I please get a photo? I was like, thank you. Who's got the best phone?
Give me your phone.
Boom.
Took a selfie.
And I was like, I shook all their hands.
I was like, please hold yourself to a higher standards.
You're a young black man doing your thing.
Basketball players, apparently.
And I just said, like, just hold yourself to a higher standard.
Don't just go out here and be like entitled like that.
But, yeah, I just felt like, again, I'm not your hero.
I'm not your guru.
I'm not fucking perfect.
Look at me.
I'm tipsy right now.
But I just felt like you can't be like that and think you're going to get what you want.
So the guy today that was stalking us, I'm not going to reward that.
I'm not going to reward someone just being a dick, being entitled.
So the guy that was stalking us was like, nah, I'm not going to reward that at all.
I was like, nah, take a hike.
Take a hike. Not only because it's inconvenient for you, but it's inconvenient for him like you're not treating yourself with respect if you're out here trying
to get photos with everyone that's like some weird clout trout also you're trying to catch a lick
that's the thing where it's i think you can tell when someone who's genuine like when someone's
like oh my god bro i'm a been the biggest fan like can i please have a photo yeah there's some
there's some appreciation you have for it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when you can tell someone's just trying to sell it
or flip it or take your signature
and throw that shit out there.
I know what it is.
It took me a while to figure it out,
but I'm like, because if I had a hotel
where I used to stay there,
I'd see them outside, same people.
And even in the mob, when I say no,
they'll pass it on to someone else
and they'll get me to sign it. You know what I mean and then take the photo to authenticate that
yeah with the kids oh my god that's the craziest thing now I should say no because I'm like oh
can I take a photo oh can my kids I'm like bro you using your kid your four-year-old daughter
does not watch the UFC yeah why the fuck? Because in the beginning,
they're like,
I'll be holding a fucking crying kid.
And I'm like,
this kid does not want to be here.
So now what I do now,
I'm like,
how are you?
What's your name?
If they can talk,
if not,
cool.
And if they want to take a photo,
that's cool.
But then if they don't,
then I'm like,
I'm not going to fucking force your kid
to take a photo
so he can be,
or she can be a Trojan horse for you. The worst is like
Boyfriends a big fan. Oh my god
My boyfriend's a bit I'm like, yeah, why don't you if I'm a big just say you're a big fan
Yeah, yeah, let's take a photo. So this. Whatever. If I say no, I say no. My body, my rules.
At this point, you're like, you've done it all.
You're at the top.
But what is all?
Yeah.
What is all then?
I mean, like, dominating his weight class.
Yes, but there's more.
There's more.
What?
Yeah, so what?
That's what I want to know.
Just scalps, bro.
I got names to take in the game. Oh, fuck. Okay. Yeah, just names. Just names and things I got names to take In the game
Oh fuck
Okay
Yeah just names
Just names
And things I want to do
Example
Can you throw out a few names
No just Rob
I want to submit him
If he wins
Okay
I'm going to submit him
Is there like a thing
That happened with
With Jordan
Where like you have to
Manifest
The beef
In order to get yourself up
Yeah like
How do you keep finding
Michael
Oh So Michael had to manifest I was eating Jordan Peterson I was like what did you do the beef in order to get yourself up. Yeah, like, how do you keep finding... Michael.
So Michael had to manifest... I was like, what'd you do?
It's not right.
Not enough people are cleaning their rooms.
That was a good impression.
You thought that was him in your head.
You're like, dude, I've been watching too much.
But that's what I was calling you.
You got some comp, man.
You got some comp. Relax, man. I'm jealous. relax hey jealous hey thanks man we can all share
it's all good fair enough but there's a little thing that you saw in the last dance documentary
where like jordan seemed to have to like manifest these beefs beefs yeah because it got him up and
one of the greatest things about jordan was that he was like uh to quote michael irvin 100 percenter
right anytime i go out there, it's 100%.
So he had to, Kobe as well,
and the greats, that's what they do. So you
have to manifest the furnace,
right? Find the little things. I find a little
example, Costa or Skinny Claude.
That was easy, though. Costa was easy.
He gave you everything you needed. You know what I liked as well?
The fact that you said
it, Dan said it, and someone else said it as well.
And then you were like, oh, bro, he's going to do this.
He's going to fuck him up.
Even in my last fight, Volk was like, bro, I was there the last week of his camp.
He's going to take him out in the third round.
And so when my friends believe in me.
Then it's it.
I believe in myself so much, but when my friends believe in me, it adds that extra low on it.
But you still need people to not believe in you, it feels.
There's many.
There's many of them.
So that's easy.
So during fight week, I like venom.
I'll, like, sip a little bit of venom just because, like, you know, you get immune to it, and that fuels you a little bit.
Do you think Eugene does that to you to kind of rile you up?
Yeah, you know, yeah.
Does he do that?
Yeah.
You know what he did yesterday that I really appreciated
was like when the last thing was like,
and I also have to say thank you.
Oof.
Oof, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy.
He's like, to you.
I wasn't expecting that.
That was a big compliment.
He's getting choked up while he's saying it too.
Yeah, I know.
You know when he starts to get choked up?
Man a few words.
Man a few words.
Normally when he gets choked up, it's during like before we say a prayer before we start warming up in the back.
Everyone in the circle, bow your head, close your eyes.
Heavenly Father, blah, blah, blah.
But sometimes, some fights, he'll do this.
He'll be like.
Heavenly Father.
So when he he on the mic
I know he's getting choked up
he's an emotional guy
and also
on the film
he got quite raw
but yeah
so when he gave me
that compliment
at the end
even the key
he didn't want to come up
but I was just like
you forced him up
yeah
because he's part of the movie
he's part of my
my life story
yeah your relationship
on there was really important
yeah so when he did that it was a big compliment coming from him and I really appreciated that Because he's part of the movie. He's part of my life story. Yeah, your relationship on there was really important.
Yeah, so when he did that, it was a big compliment coming from him.
I really appreciated that.
Also, him acknowledging the place in your life that he plays.
He goes, I'm not his father.
I'm not his friend.
I'm somewhere in between.
But that's huge, right?
It's like all of us that have a father that we love,
like we don't need another father.
Yeah.
But we still want people that we can look up to,
be inspired by,
and people to hold us to a different standard.
Yeah.
And like him recognizing that role,
but also being there kind of as a friend as well.
Yeah.
Because your father.
Balance.
Exactly, exactly. He has to know.
He knows me.
We've worked for so long. He knows me we've worked for
so long
he knows me
he knows what makes me tick
I wonder
I wonder if he was
there's moments in the doc
where I'm like
oh is he
is he playing games
is he trying to
is he trying to like
get
the one when he was like
he wouldn't admit this
no not that one
the one where he kind of like
laid into you
fight week
where he was
oh no
so
it was
it was like he called me a weak oh no so it was it was like
he called me a weak link
but I wonder if it's like
you're taking
he's using me as an example
but I understood that
and they would do that
with Tim Duncan too
do you know
Greg Popovich
was the coach
of the San Diego
I know Tim Duncan
I know the name
so Tim Duncan is the
arguably one of the greatest
NBA players of all time
and then coach Greg Popovich is his coach I've heard that name yeah and he's one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time. Okay. And then Coach Greg Popovich is his coach.
I've heard that name.
Yeah.
And he's one of the greatest NBA coaches of all time.
He's been the same thing to him?
Well, what he would do is he would rip apart Tim in front of the whole team.
Yeah.
And the whole team was like, oh, shit, if you're ripping apart the GOAT, I better stay in line because the GOAT.
I know he does that.
He does that with me.
But the thing is, he had to pull him up a little bit because he's like,
you can't do it too much because he's human.
And eventually, he has emotions
and you're going to fucking crush him. So Ash
had to like, hey,
chill. What's the level
to motivate? That's what you got to figure
out as a coach. But the thing is, I'm
more mature now. I know myself.
I know what I need to do
to win. And that's the most
important thing everything else even if you lose it's cool but you still win in certain aspects
but winning because when you win in this game you accelerate you climb up the ladder and all that
stuff blah blah more money more notoriety all that so yeah i know what to do to win
but he still has to just like
So yeah, I know what to do to win, but he still has to just like, just make sure. Even before the last fight, like by the cage, you'll see him, because I never dap with my
family, but I tapped into them because I felt so much love from the side.
So I was like, ooh.
Ash was there, I dap Ash, my family, and so my dad.
And then he goes, when I dap all of them up he goes hey just chill i'm like i'm good i was
like you see me smile i'm like no i'm good i'm just high i'm just you know i'm ready but he still
has to just be like play devil's advocate better to say it just because in case in case i'm over
excited i'm like yeah i'm gonna fucking this dude up even andre andre my wrestling coach shout to
him he even pulled me up as my wrestling coach shot to him he
even pulled me up as like i want you to because he's the one took the collar off so he came to
my my room at the airbnb before before the fight he's like i like the energy of this
i'm gonna release you but i don't want you to go crazy
and i was like trust me i'm not don't worry i got this he's like good and then we dab
up because before every fight when we're in a fight a hotel we'll be like he'll come through
my room and then we'll just like go through some sequences on the on the wall he's my rest on the
fans or whatever because he's my wrestling coach and like so when he came to my room in miami it
was just like i like the energy this i don't want you to get crazy i was like i got this they just
but you have to if you don't say it, and then I do it,
then it's like, fuck, I wish I should have said it.
You know, it's like, ah.
So that's why they do it.
But I'm glad they do because, I mean, yeah.
Look where we end up.
Question.
This is going to be a little weird.
I like weird.
Just get weird.
Are you a God-fearing man?
Yes.
OK.
So fighting is one of those things where it's like,
you can die like i don't
think people have no people wait till you watch the documentary yeah so it's like uh there's been
conspiracies with uh jake paul where people was like oh he does some weird rituals before fights
really like yeah i saw some weird uh how deep in the YouTube. Sometimes you jump into a weird shit.
But I'm like, do you ever try to tap into something else to find motivation?
That's a good question.
You know why?
So this last fight, Pereira, I felt like he is very in touch with his culture, spiritually.
So you see me at the Wayans.
I came with the Iruke, which is a chief staff.
It's made out of a horsetail.
I had a small one, but the idea is a prefix for a king.
So I'm from a royal family. My mom and my dad.
My granddad on my mom's side had three wives
and my dad's side had two wives.
I probably have five.
We'll figure it out.
Gang.
Starting with five.
Gang.
But I came with the Uruke
because I wanted to tap into my culture.
That's why I said when I was, you know,
microdosing, I was chilling,
I was able to, like, tap into my primal side, my spirituality, and I was, you know, microdosing, I was chilling. I was able to, like, tap into my primal side,
my spirituality, and I was like,
I learned from him after New York
because he was able to, like, I see the account,
I see little things he was doing.
I was like, oh, he's really in touch with his culture.
So I tapped into my roots, into my heritage.
I did my Googles because I was like, let me know.
Because sometimes I feel like not even sometimes
like
not just black
but African history
isn't told
to its fullest
because
before
fuck slavery
before that
we was kings
that's a meme
but
we were
rulers
like
deep
deep
deep some of the richest man on the planet
in history
exactly
this guy
allegedly
if you
count coconuts as wealth
or whatever
got the cash bro shout out to Ali
but like you know so I
tap into my history a little bit
and then like,
yeah,
I took inspiration
from that.
I did.
I'll share something
later on.
Yeah.
But yeah,
for me,
I had to do this
because it's not no juju
or no nothing weird.
I'm very spiritual
and even recently...
Oh, I thought
you were talking about Dove when you said
choo-choo.
Way to ruin my time.
He's really good.
Choo-choo.
He's really good.
That's so weird.
We talk about the richest man in Africa
You know
You guys still on?
Thanks
That was a good one
He's not as rich as Massimoza
But
Juju, that's funny
But go on, go on
Fuck, I lost my train of thought
You were talking about tapping into Yeah, spirituality but go on go on fuck I lost my train of thought but regardless
you were talking about
tapping into
yeah
spirituality
this last fight
I really did
that's why I microdosed
and I was trying to tap
into this
the primal self
are you going to continue
that going forward
yeah
yeah
because I
success
yeah
frame broke
to try and fix it
so
and again
even this camp
they were like
oh he's going to try
to wrestle us
because he has so much
Success and probably thought we I did think you were gonna take that motherfucker down. I can't I held him down whenever you want
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was like nice. It's not my ego. I just knew I was a better striker
Yeah, it just caught me because he's a good striker as well. He is good. Yeah, I know and he does
Yeah, his basics really well, but I was like, I'm great
So I just sure I was great. Do you feel like the was like, I'm great. So I have to show I was great.
Do you feel like the flow state is spiritual, ultimately?
That's good.
I think it, yes.
I feel like science is like spirituality or magic
we don't understand yet.
Because apparently the flow state, when you're in the zone,
there's like five or six different chemicals in your brain
that just, they're flowing and they're releasing at the same time dopamine blah blah blah whatever else
but then yeah i feel it is because when i'm in it i know it because dance and also when i do what i
do when i'm in it like the best one i've done so far i think the clean not the cleanest one i've
done so far was the cost of fight i was so in the zone. Just flow. I never even came out of it.
Like I said, Tio in the fight recently, Tio Fimo Lopez, he was in the zone, pull out, in the zone, pull out.
But he was in the zone.
I felt like the Costa fight, I was just in the zone the whole time.
I did not even like, it was not even an option.
I was just in the zone the whole time.
And how do you practice that?
Is that natural or is that something that comes over time?
It just comes out, bro.
It's just reps. But still, even though. Even freestyling is a skill example you're doing a move
you'll dance to a track you might or might not know the track and you hit like a certain beat
or certain drop and then the whole crowd goes crazy and then you ride that wave because when they
wow it's a wave they give you energy thank you It's a wave and you ride that wave and then your body just knows how to link it to something
else that just makes sense and looks cool or feels cool to the music.
So when I fight, I feel that's an advantage because I'm able to just ride that wave.
When the crowd not hits on with the leg kick or even if I miss a question mark kick.
So I guess what else?
Flow state is one of those things that a lot of people don't really understand
because most people don't access it.
And it's like, you told me one time we were hanging out
and I used to do karate back in the day.
I did it for years.
And there was one time where I was in a tournament
where it was just weird. I was fighting in a tournament where it's like I was
It was just weird like I was fighting in a way that I never fought before and I just fucked everybody up I didn't even remember parts of it. Yes, and you like you told me that no, that's it. Yeah, and I'm like, I think
there are
There are times where it's like people access their flow state whatever is like I think you guys access it on stage
So I saw my brother access the flow state.
Greg, shout out to Greg.
Shout out to Greg, man.
I saw Greg Schultz access flow state.
I told this story when we were interviewing his younger,
Russell Brand, when we were in London,
but I saw him access flow state
when he was playing drums
at, I believe it was the Bitter End.
And it was like,
I thought I was witnessing divine intervention.
Bro, it's crazy.
I know it sounds crazy. No, no, it's crazy. I know it sounds crazy.
No, no, it's not.
But everybody in that room also felt that.
He started playing, and then everybody else was playing.
It was like a jam band situation.
Everybody else, bro, they stopped.
And he was playing by himself.
And the whole place was like, what the fuck is going on?
After that, it's the vibe.
After that tournament, people was like, yo, what got into you?
I was like, I don't know you tell me yeah
They've even talked about off I was about to go on the grass Tyson. Let's go. Let's go for me
I feel like it's when you get to that state
It's almost likes even now. This is an idea. I've been messing with maybe the last two years
It's like actually no last year. I watched
with maybe the last two years.
It's like, actually, no, last year, I watched,
I'll get back to this.
I watched this movie with no idea what the,
I don't watch, I hate trailers.
They ruin movies.
Yes.
They ruin movies.
So I watched everything all at once at the same time,
and I had no idea what it was.
I didn't watch the trailer.
I didn't even know the title.
But as I was watching it,
the movie was unfolding itself to me naturally,
like unfolding itself. And like, as it did, I was like, the movie was unfolding itself to me naturally like unfolding itself
And like as it did I was like what the fuck like these guys seen this Yeah, which everything everywhere all at once you've seen it. Yeah, you've seen it. Yeah, okay
so the bit in the laundromat when he like
Inside like hopping in on Jackie Chan. I was like what the fuck's happening? I was like
Wait, but this is her dad's just being fucking karate kid
Oh, yeah. Yeah, so if I watch the trailer, then I know the premise I know what is up
Oh, he's tapped into that metaverse multi-verse or whatever
that's why I love that movie is such a great movie, but I feel like
Sometimes it's cuz there's that whole theory of quantum physics of that multiverse
it's because there's that whole theory
of quantum physics
and that multiverse
when you're in the flow state
it's like you tap
in the movie
they do like
karate skills
they do that thing
and they tap into that
sometimes it's like that
okay
so the cost of fight
actually you know what
real quick
to everything everywhere
all at once
or whatever that is
what I took from that movie
is that
his fight
yeah
he
was he not her no that his fight was he.
Not her.
No, he.
His fight, which she realizes is being kind in a world that is not kind.
Love wins.
And love wins.
Love wins.
And it is hard as hell to be nice to people and support people and love people in a world of people who are bitter and angry and will fight against that.
And she realizes that about her dad and she goes,
it's way easier to go to the donut or the bagel
or whatever the whole, it's way easier to be bitter.
It's way easier to criticize, way easier to be angry.
It's harder to be my dad who's fucking nice to everybody
despite them being an asshole to him.
Right, like everybody's a jerk to him
and he fucking takes it
and he's still kind to them.
And then she goes,
holy shit,
that is a way better way
of being a human.
And then she sees her dad
instead of being a weak person
as being the karate guy.
I think the wife sees her husband
as that.
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.
The dad of the girl.
The girl is going towards the donor.
Yeah, yeah.
So the husband,
who is the wife,
whatever.
And the wife is shitting on him
the whole movie.
Constantly. But the daughter realizes it and I think So the husband, who's the wife, whatever. And the wife is shitting on the home. Yeah, constantly.
But the daughter realizes it
and I think the mom,
but also it's like,
I thought that was
the most beautiful thing.
Looking at life
as a beautiful opportunity
to be kind
to these strangers
who might even be
an asshole to you
is the harder,
more martial art
fighting version
than easily going,
the world sucks.
There's no point.
It's easy to criticize.
I'm a victim.
Fuck you.
Fuck life.
Life is worth nothing.
Cynicism is weakness, bro.
And to me,
I remember watching that
in the last 30 minutes going,
what a profound,
what a profound way
of looking at life.
My favorite movie of last year.
I watched it first time sober, second time dosed up.
It opened, like, ideas for me.
And that's why, like, I started to, like, oh, I wonder because,
and I'll finish on this because you've got shows,
and also I think I don't want to get too drunk.
You might have a premiere.
Yeah.
Nah, that's done.
But, um, sorry, Chris.
Sorry, Chris. I'd rather be here. Oh, we about the after party yeah but um the cost of fight fire island you'll see it even on documentary you'll
see there's a there's a moment when i'm sitting down on the chair you know back like a cool teacher
on a chair and i was doing this i had my gray hoodie on boom and i was doing this i had a nap
i was getting my hands wrapped and i was nap. I was getting my hands wrapped.
And as I was getting my hands wrapped,
I was just like, could you for the,
well, I slept well, also fucking hell,
Fire Island, why the fuck would you do,
hey Ash, Fire Island, why the fuck would they do
Fire Island on a racetrack?
On a fucking racetrack at 2 a.m.
Call the fucking hotel.
Tell them, can you, like, what the fuck is happening?
We have a, like, it's Thursday.
I'm weighing in tomorrow.
I have to weigh in.
Fucking.
Nigga, it's Friday.
Bro, I have a fight with the money.
Like, why?
But apparently they're paying like 500K to the track.
Those are the girls outside the hotel, bro. Yeah, but like for me, I're like, but apparently they're paying like 500K to the track. Those are the girls outside the hotel, bro.
That's not me.
Yeah, but like for me, I was like, what the fuck?
So it wasn't even that I slept well.
I still made it happen.
But then when I was on the thing, I was just like getting my hands rough.
You know when you're driving, you're dead light.
So I was like, oh, I got to stay awake.
But then I thought, no, listen to your body.
Listen to your body. So then I thought, no, listen to your body. Listen to your body.
So then I had a nap.
I had a nap on the chair.
And then, wallahi, I don't know where I went.
It was some kind of like, you know, Lion King or Black Panther when he sees his dad.
That kind of scene.
Remember who you are.
He goes.
And something happened.
But I remember I woke up.
I felt like a sleeper agent. I don't know if you know what that is but i felt like i woke up and
i was just like i was in a different zone and i tapped all the boys up i was like let's go let's
go i felt like i tapped into something else so that's why that fight happened you see even before
like i before like before i walked out I told you she's
like I believe in me I do I believe in you I bet cuz I say I believe myself and
when people I give a fuck about believe in me it's alright we don't so I felt
like a stupid and I'll say I stayed in the zone and I did what I did but it's
something that I'm messing with those ideas. I'm messing with, because again, it's learning.
I'm still doing this.
I'm still learning.
I'm still young.
And yeah, I'm going to keep writing this story.
I'm going to keep writing this story.
Even after fighting, the story is still being written until I'm done.
Well, we're going to still watching it, bro.
Of course, man.
My brother.
Love you, dogs.
I love you.
I love you.
You're the best.
The greatest story ever told. Stylebender, everybody. Written by you. Written by dogs. I love you. I love you. You're the best. The greatest story ever told.
Stylebender, everybody.
Written by you.
Written by you.
Yes, sir.
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