Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - JellyRoll on Eminem’s Greatness, Beyonce’s Country Album & How He Lost 100 lbs

Episode Date: January 2, 2025

YERRR have to start off the New Year right with country music's newest fitness influencer & number selling artist JellyRoll. He breaks down all the inside baseball of the country music charts, explains how he got Eminem and MGK on one album and has some hilarious behind the scenes stories from SNL and his tour. Find his tickets at JellyRoll615.com 0:00 - start 0:20 - Jelly's Insane NYC Weekend 1:53 - JellyRoll is down 100 pounds! 9:52 - JellyRoll Gives Away TOO Much Money 13:05 - How MGK & Eminem are both are on Jelly's Album 27:30 - Opening Up Concert with Best Song First 36:30 - Jelly and Andrew Having to Pee on Stage 44:00 - Going Number 2 while Performing 58:40 - HEADLINING Stagecoach 2025 1:02:55 - Jelly's SAGE Parenting Advice about Letting Loose 1:19:41 - Young Fame and Riches Didn't Ruin MGK 1:32:45 - Famous People Can't Stop Coming to Jelly Concerts 1:35:10 - Jelly Weighs in on Beyonce's Country Album 1:44:00 - is Country Changing Now that It's so Popular?? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up everybody? Welcome to Flaker and today is the second coming of a dear, brave, courageous friend of ours who has kind of just absolutely exploded. I mean he had a weekend in New York where he was not only headlining Madison Square Garden, he was not only the musical guest for SNL, he was not only performing for all the Central Park or something, I have not even know what the fuck that was, that was crazy. He managed, this is what a mensch this guy is, he managed to even make time to come out and see one of my little stand up shows at the Comedy Cellar. Give it up for our dear friend, Jelly Roll.

What the fuck is that? The boys back, baby. I have to say, I felt so, I was telling my wife this, I felt so guilty because I promised my wife that we would go out, we would go out to this place in the Hamptons we have. And I was like, I promise we would go, and then your weekend in New York happened.

And I was just like, this is the one weekend away, we're away every single weekend on the road, and everything's crazy with the special, and I'm like, I feel so bad, I'm gonna miss. I'm like, all right, at least I'll make MSG. Don't make, at least I'll make, I'm feeling I feel so bad. I'm gonna miss I'm like all right at least I'll make MSG Don't make at least I'm a guess and I'm feeling the worst fucking friend And you could have you could let me feel okay by just leaving but instead you're like I'll just come to you, baby Tell me, dog, tell me. Every piece of shit.

Why, why? Because we went to that show and that was awesome. The boys did represent on y'all's behalf. You should have charged them. First, just know, I am a traveling man, but y'all know me in real life. No, I felt that in my soul, man, because God knows that me and Bunny get a weekend away.

Man, listen, I don't care if Jesus comes and Ashford will perform. God, you know how much I love the Lord. Man, we finally got us a weekend, baby. Come on, man. God bless, man. God is everywhere. He'll come to us. He's been coming to me.

He ain't even skinny now. How much are you down? How much are you? I'm down a hundred. This globe is a globe. This is the first time I've got to say it. I'm down a hundred. You're down a hundred.

That's awesome. Three digits. I'm down a hundred. How's dick game? Man, crazy. It's coming back. Now, listen, me and my wife. Talk about it. Now, talk about it, me and my wife just had this conversation

because I've struggled with my weight my whole life and she's seen me get really big and seen me lose weight before. So I was like, yo, am I tripping or is it not? It was a lot faster last time as far as even losing the weight and getting the dick back. So I was like, am I tripping? And she's like, listen, my wife is the most honest human

on earth. She goes, daddy, you're a little older now. We might have to just get that thing cut off. Because I'm like a kangaroo with a pouch above my peck. You know what I'm saying? When I lose weight, the pouch goes back, the pecker comes out. So I found myself in this juxtaposition where I'm losing the weight here,

but the pouch is still pouching. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I gotta look exactly. Oh, that's fire. No, it's not fire, it's on. No, that's fire, dude. Because it didn't warm, always. You know what I love about y'all,

it's my big album, which is how we started. We're talking about my podcast, and you're like, good to see y'all again. I like this, I like this, that you have that nice little area. That's, because you gotta make her work for it. I'm adding you warning. It's like a hand warmer for little area. That's because you gotta make a work for it. I'm making a warning. It's like a hand warmer for a quarterback.

This is on you. This is now on you. No, I feel good though, man. I'm losing weight. I was telling you, that's why we quit talking about it. I'm hitting that moment where you start to hit a stride in it. Okay. In weight loss or just in life?

In everything. Like just the clarity, the clarity's coming with the weight loss, the music, the writing. Oh, fire. The tour, the production. But even down to like my discipline of like, I have, I don't wanna say I've overcome it, but dude, I haven't ate anything.

It's been so long. I don't even think about it. Really? Like, I just thought about this the other day that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I've been such an obese human and fought food addiction so long, Andrew, that I would walk into rooms and make assessments of what was in there that I could snack on.

Like Jason Bourne. No way. I was out here like on some super fat shit. I'd be like, yo, there's a can of Snickers, I got a little bowl here. There's some canes here. There's a lot of Snickers. You know how to be having the cans with the little baby Snickers on them. Don't act like y'all don't see them.

Baby snickers. I like that. I like that. That's crazy. You're thinking outside the box. Yeah, and now it's like, the man, I'm in the dressing room the other day and there was a, I don't, I didn't even notice the candy in the dressing room until somebody said, do you want one of these?

And then I was like, just, I'm not even thinking like that no more. Like it's just not even, I remember when I caught that with drugs. Like the first time that I found myself in an environment where people were doing cocaine and I wasn't like, gotta get out of the room. You know what I mean? I was just like, oh yeah, I used to do that. That was all right.

You know what I mean? We had a lot of fun. You struggle with drugs, like you said. My family, we have a lot of addiction. But like I noticed my dad. No, that's pleasure. Yeah. That's fun.

Addiction's not fun. You're right, you're right. It destroys families. But no, I noticed like my brother stopped drinking, my dad stopped drinking and went to food. I have a little bit of a food thing too, but they're the same. Is it just like an addictive personality?

You let go of one for a lesser one and then eventually hopefully you let go of food for maybe work or whatever, but like you think that's just a progression of it? I'm not 100% sure because I was fat and doing cocaine at the same time. and then eventually hopefully you let go of food for maybe work or whatever, but like, you think that's just a progression of it? I'm not 100% sure because I was fat and doing cocaine at the same time. How hard is that?

I was impressed. I could juggle fucking chainsaws with that skill set. But I found myself, I don't know, man, I think it's for me is I'm just starting to do the real work on me. And I'm starting to really start to come to peace and find myself in situations. What does that entail, the work on you?

As cliche as it sounds, I've done a lot of therapy, just a lot of self-help, a lot of what I consume. I didn't realize that not just what I was consuming was making me huge and making me feel bad and inflamed, but what I was listening to, the kind of stuff, the rabbit holes I found myself going in. Like what? You know, just like darker shit.

You know what I mean? Comedy podcast? No, no, no. That's the shit that gets me out of it. Who would have built a pyramid? It's like, I can laugh about this. This would like, you find yourself in just like, you know, dark holes of just what you even listen to

or intake or, then your timeline becomes full of it. You know what I mean? Like, dude. That's the problem with the algorithm. Yeah, it's the wild west, dude. You accidentally stumble on one dude, getting his head blown off in Venezuela, and for three days you're like, I can't touch my phone.

It's nuts, man. You know what I mean? It's wild. But I get, and those paths for me wasn't always internet rabbit holes. These are the self ones that I struggle with. You know what I mean? When I just get alone in these little rabbit holes.

And I'm doing better at those now, man. I'm just thinking better, dude. I'm just fucking feeling better. I knew you were doing well, man. I knew that you were making ridiculous money because you brought a guy out to dinner with us and he was, and you said, this is my philanthropy guy. What?

Wow. Are you Mr. Beast? I was like, what? He said, yeah, he handles all my philanthropy. I like that. That's a different level of money when you're like, other people need some of this money. This is the guy that gives it away. Yeah, you got a guy to give away your money.

We're married for that. We don't need people. That is a problem. We don't need a guy to stop her from giving it away to her man. That is a problem. We need a guy to stop her from giving it away to Hermes. She thinks Hermes is a charity. This French motherfucker's making billions. We're 16 minutes in and I'm like, I fucked up. Why do I do this every time?

Just so they're like, beautifully broken, stream it. Stream it right now, beautifully broken! Beautifully broke, real quick. Beautifully broke is the rest of us. Sky owns his masters, okay? Fuck. Goddamn, man. I mean, this guy, and he was like a handsome, he looked like Billy Crudup.

You thought he was? I thought he was Billy Crudup for the whole time. I was like, oh my God, we got fucking Billy Crudup with us. You know, the best part is it was such a Schultz moment. I often forget, you and Tony are my two friends that I forget about this until I'm out with y'all. Oh yeah, I know where you're going. That y'all are knife of men.

You know what I'm saying? You're just like a knife of a man. You know what I mean? I think I know what you mean. You get it, like, the room, my dude is quietly observing. He's maybe interjected once or twice, but just enough for us all to go, toop, toop. So how do you fit into this?

What's your story? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I didn't get it. I was like, why the fuck is Billy Crudup right here without seeing Sushi and Zero Bonds? The way you are with Tandy, bro, that's how he is with gossip. I needed to make sense of it. And then, and then, and then, and then,

and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, I needed to make sense of it. And then he goes, oh, that's my philanthropy guy. I'm like, damn, Billy Crudup doing rough right now. Bro, like. On site, that was the worst way. He's a philanthropy guy? Yeah, that was the worst way to frame him. His name's Miles Adcox.

Yeah. Yeah, he does look a lot like him in that one picture. But he actually does a lot of, in the mental health space, he owns a big company called Onsite in Tennessee. There's one in San Diego, it's like a mental wellness retreat, it's done a lot for me, a lot for me and my wife. If you're depressed in San Diego, kill yourself. Yeah, right.

It's pretty serious. Right. What the fuck you doing, how you even do that? San Diego is nice. There's wine that's on the screen right now. Nah, nah, nah, it's over, it's over. Nah, it's over. Nah, San Diego is nice.

How you find a way to be depressed in San Diego? How you find that fish? You know what I mean? Put this shit in Anchorage or something. This is already a good one. Let's fucking go. No. It was going so well for Jelly Man.

He really did, man. Completely crossed over. It was. It was going so good. It was going so good. It was going good. I'm glad I did this after Saturday Night Live. Exactly. Never went into that. Exactly. It just hit a good. I'm glad I did this after Saturday Night Live. Exactly.

Never bringing it in. Exactly. It just hit a stride. My publicist is fired me tomorrow. Exactly. You should have learned from the music video. I guess so. Every time we hang out, it's just a little dip,

just a little dip, but then it goes even higher. It goes down to go up. It's how it worked. That's the ass-hole Army, baby. That's funny. All right, we gotta get Billy Crudup off the stage. Let's distract him. Yeah, I keep looking at him like, I don't even remember what he was in.

No, but I came in and I was like, look man, we do give away a lot of money. And I was like, I do need somebody to help me. I don't have, I can't, man, I feel so bougie saying this. No, cause it's- But y'all are late, cause this is just real life. This is how I would talk if we went on a pod. I just have too much incoming to give anything the proper time it deserves almost.

You know what I mean? Like in any major decision. But when I know that I feel like it's been on my heart that I need to give back. So he's so cool. He's got such a big infrastructure for his other business. He'll just put his people on it. Like, you know, we all go find, this is what he wants to do.

He wants to do this amount of soup kitchens, this amount of juvenile facilities. And now it's caused a chain reaction where when I go to venues now, you know how venues give us our gifts when we play these arenas? You've been doing them longer than me. We get gifts, they give you jerseys and a box

and all kind of stuff. Everyone tries to give you something cooler in the last arena, it's the coolest shit ever. But now they'll always all donate a check to a charity in that city in like honor of what they know I stand for. So right. But you still get the jersey, right?

Yeah, I'll still get the jersey. No, I didn't. Don't give it to them kids. The boss himself, he told me, hold the thing. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was sick. It was crazy, man.

They got like 18 of them. You know what's crazy? I stood over and took pictures for like three minutes before they were like, you can touch it. I was like, I wish I would have been finger fucking this thing for about three minutes. You know what I'm saying? It was crazy.

Yeah, so now it's become a thing where, so yeah, I have a guy that really is a great guy, man. So he helps with that, because we try to do a lot, man. We try to, I wanna help as many people as possible. I mean, you're a great guy. You're the great connector, I've realized, because you have this song,

oh, that was it, you also did Fallon. We were watching Fallon that night. I can't believe I left out one of the things that was part of that weekend as well. So you and MGK do Fallon. MGK is hanging out with you. Also, great guy. Great guy. That's why I'm bringing, that's why I'm taking him on. Great guy. It was funny, we had this moment where he was like, yeah, I don't understand, why don't people think that I'm like a nice guy sometimes? And I'm like, well, let's look at the outfits

a little. And I remember he like looked at some and he was like, okay, I get that one. He was wearing like a pink furry shirt. He's like, yeah, that one I get. He's like, I like wearing stupid shit, but that was a little far. No, it was the best, because he'd go, I stand on that one, but yeah, that one was horrible. It was so funny to watch you and you'll have that moment.

No, he was a great dude. And that is what often happens, I think, in his business, is that you might have a perception of people, and then you get to a point where you start meeting them, and you're like, a lot of times surprised at them being like really nice people and like sweet people. All right, Cucks, let's do some dates. January 9th through 11th.

I don't know why they gave me those dates, to be honest with you, now that I think about it. Sighsplitters in Tampa, I feel a little way about that, I'm gonna be honest. January 23rd through 25th, Sacramento, those tickets will sell out, I promise you. They sold out two years ago and I wasn't even really selling tickets back then.

January 31st through February 1st, West Des Moines, Iowa. Again, I cannot believe there's an East Des Moines, but West Des Moines, Iowa, I'm gonna be at the Funny Bone. February 21st and 22nd, I'm gonna be in Brea, California. You know you guys love me. February 28th through March 1st, I'm gonna be in Nashville, Tennessee. We got more dates coming. I think I'm gonna be in Nashville, Tennessee. We got more dates coming.

I think I'm gonna be in San Diego one of those times as well. Either way guys, come through, love y'all. AkashSingh.com for tickets. Thank you so fucking much. This year was awesome. Sold out, I think shows for six months straight this weekend. I had the first show I didn't sell out.

But still such a fucking awesome year. Love you guys, thank you so much. Let's get back to the show. The interesting thing about that is you're with MGK. You have a song with MGK. You also have a song with Eminem. Yeah. These guys are mortal enemies.

Oh, my dear. Yeah. And somehow you are so talented that you are positioned in between both of them and they're like, I still want to work with Jelly Roll. Yeah. How do you manage that? Man, the first thing is honesty. Okay.

Right, you got to come into both parties honest. How do you talk to Em? Well, so Paul is, and I always bring up Paul in interviews because I feel like he never gets brought up enough. Paul Rosenberg. Paul Rosenberg has been Eminem's manager since Eminem's had a manager. Lifelong Detroit homie kind of shit,

like really cool inception story. Cool story about Eminem is his, I believe his publicist, his assistant who kind of runs the record label, I don't want to call her assistant because she's so much more. But he's had like the same four people around him for his entire career. Entire career. Amazing. So you don't really talk to, you know, he's the wizard man, he's the biggest selling artist of our generation.

He sold more records than Elvis. You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane when you think about how big, you don't really get to see the wizard a lot. But I've seen the wizard now and hung out with him and he's a fucking great guy. You know what I mean? He's really down to earth, he's super honest,

and he's very intentional with his words. And we hung out on video set for 12 hours, just like dicking around. To show you his personality, he walks in my green room going, somebody shave me, I need some Gillette. He said, we can get you a deal there. And just fucking funny guy. So the first thing we have,

no, no, no, the first thing we have is when we're singing. I'll tell you that story too, but just let me praise Paul for two more minutes. He deserves it. Paul has always been trying to get me and him together. Every time I've seen Paul, he's like, if Marshall don't understand anybody else, he's gonna get you.

When he gets you, he's gonna get you. And he's telling me this for like, since I met him when he was working with Yellow Wolf a decade ago. You know what I mean? So like, Paul has been that champion for me the whole way. So Paul calls and he's like, send me to Save Me record.

And I'm like, y'all mind if I tell this story first? Cause it's hard to get it on. Please. Yeah, this is what it's simple. Cause I don't think I've told this one like his. So Paul calls and he's like, send the stems to the Save Me record. He calls John Manili, my manager.

Now keep in mind, John Manili managed Jay for a while. So they've already worked. They have a real, they're friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 while. So they've already worked. They have a real, they're friends for real for 30 years now. They've been in the business together for 25 years. So he hits, he hits John Manili, he's like, yo, send over, save me. I think Marshall wants to fuck with it. And that's all he said.

So, you know me, I'm like, you know how rap works. I'm like, I'm fixing to get an Eminem remix. Like, he's just going to drop a verse in my lap one day. Like, I don't know when and I don't care. Whenever it comes, just thank you God, you know? And I had already told Kelz that story back then. And Kelz is a real friend. You know where Kelz is just like, yo, that's huge.

Keep me posted. You know what I'm saying? Like he's cheering for me. Like at heart, his heart is like, you know what I mean? Like, yo man, you don't have a problem with that. Kelz being MGK. Yeah, yeah, Kelz, sorry, Kelz being MG what I mean, like yo man, you don't have a problem with that. Kels being MGK. Yeah, sorry, Kels being MGK, he's like, yo, you don't have a problem, so this is like,

I probably shouldn't timestamp it too much, but this is 18 months ago. Oh wow, okay. So I get to the point, I don't think it's coming. I'm kind of just like, ah, it didn't happen, it's whatever, you know, it works. And then I get the call, it's like, yo, it's going on the record, it's closing the record,

I'm like, what? Second single, they wanna shoot a video. Now keep in mind, me and Kels are, we hung out at the Grammys, we had both lost, and we ended up on what we call the Loser Tour that night. We went to all these like weird, crazy like Illuminati parties. It felt like it was so fucking weird, dude.

And we went to like three or four of them. It was no, no, no, no Baby Ol' Bashes. But I went in and we went to all these weird parties and he had played me the idea for Lonely Road that night. So this is, you know, three, four months after me and Kelz have already worked on two or three records together, we're hanging out every day. I'm in LA a bunch.

I don't have a friend out there. I only know him. It's like, still, you talk about when I pull up on you, Bubba, you're my only friend here. What do you mean I'm gonna pull up on you? I don't know nobody. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking, you're my only friend.

Well, that makes me feel less special. No, no, I'm being like, I love you. I'm looking for my Bubba. You know what I'm saying? So me and him are hanging every day, and I'm like, yo, this Eminem thing's real. I was like, it's fixing to come out and they wanna do all this.

Now we're already in there. Now on the other side, John's having to do straight business with Paul. Like, hey Paul, you know Kells and Jelly have known each other for 15 years on and off. They were beefing, Jelly dissed him. I was a hater back then. It's a whole fun other fun story.

It's like, but they're buddies. And here's where Paul's a good dude too. Paul's like, yo man, we love Jelly, man. Just appreciate you telling us. Never got brought up. My heart is always to bring them together one day because I see so much more of them in each other than they know.

You know what I mean? I hadn't really brought it up to Marshall yet because I'm just still kind of glad that I'm still in that circumference to be able to have them conversations. But I do see like there's so much more in them than not. But like I also gave Kel some perspective too, was like, we all grew up watching Eminem

take over the game early. Like, if you got mentioned in an Eminem song, it was like getting mentioned in a comedy special. You were on fucking fire. You couldn't be hotter if you got mentioned in an Eminem special or an HBO special. You know what I'm saying? An Eminem song or an HBO special. You know what I'm saying? An Eminem song or an HBO special

is what you wanted your name to be brought down. One way or the other. I also think that that beef between MGK and Eminem, like that verse from MGK was I think the most- It was underrated actually. I thought it was rated. Like I think most people looked at that and they were like, whoa, this was way better than I thought.

And then I think Eminem's verse, I don't think people thought that he absolutely knocked him out the park. Like I thought that the reaction to it was, this is more competitive than we thought it was gonna be. So I think that MGK's respect went up. Well, what's interesting is over time, it's changed. And the moment I remember that being the response,

and now when people look back on it, they're like, oh, Eminem ended MGK's rap career. Because MGK transitioned into other stuff. And so I think the narrative got written, rewritten that way. Well, I remember in the moment, people being like, yo, I don't think MGK necessarily got destroyed. The only thing I'll say to touch on this,

cause I'm gonna slippery slope. Yeah, you gotta be very careful. Just nod, just nod. Everything Andrew just said right now, I want the flagrant listeners to know, he said to MGK, I watched y'all have this same conversation together, which I think is super cool. But here's how I feel.

Look, man, they're gonna get together one day eventually. It's inevitable, the world's a circle. You know what I mean? And I think that they're gonna find each other's heart more than they don't. And if they never do connect that way, I think that it did more for both of them than it did to hurt either one of them. Yeah.

For their either party ever fully acknowledged that. What MGK did after that, I don't think had anything to do with the beef as much as Richard's heart and what his spirit was. Because he technically dropped, I think Hotel Diablo was the project right after the end beef, don't quote me. But it was the two, it was the mainstream sellout, and it was the, take us to my downfall, it changed. We're talking about a couple of the biggest, they'll go down as the biggest albums of this generation in pop, in pop punk, in punk rock, and maybe in rock and roll, like new music

from new recording artists, and 10 years of rock music, I think those albums will be the biggest selling. So that's the thing that like, let that one sit. Yeah, no, and I told him this shit too, like what I saw is him as a rapper, knew him as a rapper, then I saw him become an Arena X rock star.

Yeah. And I knew that I was getting old because I was like, what is happening? What happened? Did you feel that way as well? I didn't know when the switch happened. But he went to arenas. And so something must have been resonating

with the rock music on a different level than rap. I also think it's hard to be like an arena rap star. Like how many arena rap acts are there? You know, we were talking about this before. It's M's like stadium, if you want it. Yeah, M&M's stadiums for sure. M&M's stadiums. But like arenas around, like Drake.

Hold on, let's go a step deeper. M&M's a plus one at most stadiums. So he can do two stadium shows. He's a plus one at most stadiums in America. That's great. I mean, yeah. I mean, that's like Taylor Swift shit. Yeah, 100%.

Wow. Yeah, he was Taylor of rest. That's crazy. Yeah, even now, to this day. Like crazy. But what are the arenas? It's like Kend Swift shit. Yeah, 100%. Wow. Yeah, he was Taylor of Rantz. That's crazy. Yeah, even now to this day. Like crazy. But it's like, what are the arena acts? It's like Kendrick. Kendrick.

Nikki. I think Nikki's built like this unbelievable following. Nikki did arenas. She came to Nashville and sold out on wins. Travis. Travis. I don't know. Who is the stadium act?

Who is it? Is Megan and Glo, is it a Megan and Glo the package right now? Cause they're doing arenas right now. Megan and Glo together are doing arenas right now. But that's still packaged. Like I'm curious, and it Megan and Glo the package right now? Because they're doing arenas right now. Megan and Glo together are doing arenas. That's still packaged, like I'm curious, and maybe Megan's big enough. Glo really is red hot. I fucking love everything, she is so Memphis.

She's the best human ever. Like when I met her, she was, I was like, I grew up going back and forth to Memphis my whole life, like coming up under the Three 6 Mafia, I was like, please let her be as Memphis as it looks. Let it like, off camera, let it be as Memphis as it looks. Let it be off camera, let it be as Memphis as it looks. She is so Memphis. She is, it's like talking to Project Pat.

It is awesome, dude. It is incredible how Memphis she is. But they're doing, they're full blown arenas now. Now that can't, it's just- Hold on, who in the back pack rap space? Say again? I hate to use that phrase, but like who from that space? Suicide Boys are doing an arena tour right now. Whether you acknowledge them as rappers or not,

I think they're sick as shh. I love the Suicide Boys. But I know they're doing arenas because we're on their ass every night. They're playing Tuesdays and Thursdays like us. And they're selling almost clean everywhere they're going. Wow. Oh, that's awesome.

I mean, it's just a rare thing. It's like, especially in the rap space, it's rarefied air. It's listened to his rap music is. When they did the West Coast package, I remember they did like the, whenever they labeled the West Coast package, it had Cube. Oh, I mean, when 50 went back out.

50 went out and did it. He was doing it. Yeah. But then again, you got one of the biggest rappers ever. It's like Kanye, yeah. It's just a hard thing for rappers to do. For whatever reason, for as much as we listen to rap, as popular as rappers are, as seen and noticed

and recognized, it doesn't translate to ticket sales in the way that maybe country does, definitely doesn't as rock. EDM, you could argue, is overindexed. There are EDM DJs that I have no fucking clue their name. There's an EDM DJ named Anima, Anima, that is doing the Sphere in Las Vegas and they've added shows.

So now they're at like six or seven shows or something like that. Four New Year's Eve plus others. Did you guys know who this guy was? I mean, no disrespect to him. I did, you guys did it. You did, you did. Do you know Fred again?

Oh, he's a Fred. That guy's fucking massive. Fred again was on our new artist Grammy list this year. That's how I kinda got hip to him, you know? And I was joking with Noah about it. We were joking about all the, you know, who all we were, me, Noah, and I think Gracie Abrams were all talking at the table.

And I said, the funny part of this is, I don't even think Fred again came to the Grammys, by the way, I'm not sure. I don't think he even showed up. But if he did, I didn't get to meet him and he's gonna make more money than all of us put together when it's all said and done. He's doing crazy, he's doing a stadium show where he'll like have a beach stage in like the nosebleeds.

They did a wild thing. They did a, okay, I'm gonna fuck this up probably, but with MSG, what they wanted to do is go on sale the day before the show. So they wanted 24-hour notice. And I think that they couldn't, because of like a ticket master, regulate some stuff like that. So then maybe it was like a few days. They sell it out immediately, and then they do the show. And then for the show, I'm going to butcher this,

and somebody will fucking correct me, whatever. They keep the lights on. I think they start the show at like in the afternoon. And they keep the lights on until it's start the show at like in the afternoon and they keep the lights on until It's eight or ten or whatever it is in that moment the lights switch and just imagine the energy Building building building and then no lights off he treated the MSG like it was a club because it wasn't even like the normal Endstage this was like it makes in the room and then he did with Skrillex Okay, okay, okay, because I think we spoke

to his manager when we were in Vegas. Anyway, what a creative idea. Yeah. Oh yeah. Bro, he did one where he was at, I think it was at the Hollywood Bowl, and he got all the people that came to his very first show when he went to LA, and it was like 200, 300 people,

and put them in the Hollywood Bowl in one section and did a private show for those like 300 people the day before the actual arena show. His LA Coliseum show he created like this LED moat around the entire bowl of a stadium so that everyone had a seat and then did the Beast HL. He's a man. He's sleeping outside the box. I wonder who's doing all that production for.

Well, that, well, yeah. Back at you. Like, your show is. The guys, and I want to hear your guys' reflection on your show, but everybody came to me and they're like, oh, this was amazing. And there was this, there was so much creativity added to it, but like the explosiveness was awesome. And I was talking to a guy about

EDM or whatever I don't know anything about EDM okay but I was talking about EDM and he said something interesting because I asked him to play that Anima guy or Anima I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right and it was like an hour long set and it started like real hard kind of like pumping stuff and I was like I don't know if it's mine he goes yeah but it's an hour long set and I go so and he goes well like the first 20, 30 minutes, he's just getting everybody's heart rate up to, from 80 beats to like 110.

And I go, what? He goes, so that they can do this big drop. He goes, it'd be different if he was just doing like five songs. As a comedian, you think about these things, but you're not as tied into somebody's biochemistry as you are with music. So when you're setting up your set,

are you, if you have that hour and a half or two, how long is your set? 95 minutes. So 95 minutes, are you considering that? Are you like, okay, we're slowly bringing them in, everybody's same page, everybody's same page, Bill, Bill, Bill. Can you- Little different.

But can you break down what you're thinking when you're creating the set? Yeah, of course, everybody's same page, Bill, Bill, Bill. Can you? A little different. But can you break down what you're thinking when you're creating the set? Yeah, of course every show's different, every tour, just kind of like you with the life. But for me, this particular tour, I was like, I wanted to make a real statement at the beginning of the show. Like it was important to me not to like,

because like the trick is either you come out to like an up- up tempo hit that people know and then you kinda play into the crowd and then you kinda bring them into the couple songs they don't know and the set slowly ramps up and slowly ramps up and the last four songs are The Bangers. The biggest four songs.

This is like rock and roll one on one. And I was like, so I've always tried to stay away from that model, like not to like give away too much of what I do, but like immediately I'm like, fuck that model sucks. You know what I'm saying? Like fucking, even from my perspective. It's expected like, and also yeah, 100% gone.

So I was like, what have we come out? And the first thing we do, I blow one of the biggest gags I have. I mean, I walk straight into the arena and all eyes on this thing that happens, right? And I drop, I'm not okay, out the gate. You know what I mean, I walk straight into the arena and all eyes on this thing that happens, right? And I drop, I'm not okay, out the gate. You know what I mean? So it's the fucking first thing I'm doing.

I mean, I'm walking right in and like fucking, a ball's on table, you know what I'm saying? And I'm doing an effect, right? I'm doing an extra thing that happens. It's like, even if I look right now and tell you, you know what song I'm gonna do first. And it's still gonna have a moment in the song where you're gonna go, get the fuck outta here.

You know what I'm saying? And I also did that because I wanted people to go, where can you go from here? That was intentional too, because I knew once I put us in a box where whenever me and my team were talking, they're like, all right, this is this idea. And I was like, this is what I wanna do with this.

They're like, cool. I was like, and that's how I wanna start the show. And right then you can see them go, fuck, well, how are we gonna finish? You is what I wanna do with this, or like, cool. I was like, and that's how I wanna start the show. And right then you can see them go, fuck, well how are we gonna finish? You know what I'm saying? I was like, that's how we challenge ourselves. Now we gotta work through it. We know where we're starting.

And then I build the whole set like an emotional. To me it's about music, the best concerts that meant the most to me were the ones I remember leaving, how they made me feel. Like I don't even remember the set list. I don't fully remember what songs they sung ones I remember leaving how they made me feel. Like I don't even remember the set list, I don't fully remember what songs they sung, I remember some highlights.

But I'll remember like the overarching theme of like how I left feeling. And I want people to leave this like feeling like free. Like you know that feeling, I don't know if you've talked to a bunch of people from up here, but don't take this wrong, but like I always bring it up, but like that old church feeling,

like there's something about leaving church on Sunday, there's this misconception that you leave feeling like you're going to hell, but like if done right, you feel like that at some point in the day, right? But you leave feeling like, I'm fucking a good guy, I showed up, I'm going to eat lunch with my mom now, like I'm on fire, You know what I'm saying?

It's like, that's how I want people to leave that show feeling. And I try to cater the entire set to go into that moment. Cause if I know that's my end game, then I just got to figure out how to get there. I know how I'm starting. I know how I want people to feel walking out the door. How do I push them out the door?

Oh, that's awesome. I can attest, crisis king. And finally! Get the funny camera on him! Say it again! It was spectacular, no. Oh, that's so cool. All right, guys, Stylebender's back.

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Big fight. Yep, yep. You know, this is his first non-title fight since a year after he entered the UFC Wow Wow, how long is it? Forget I saw the statistics somewhere, but this is the first non-title fight because I think he won the UFC title I guess within like a year and change yeah, and then hasn't had a non

Title fight because it's either been he won or rematch. Wow. Insanity, right? 2019 and 2018 was the last one. That's crazy. Imagine fighting the second best guy every single fight for years. That's crazy. That's a long time to be the best. Yeah. People forget. That's the thing.

And I'm a prisoner at a moment or whatever, recency bias or whatever that shit is, but you forget what that's like. Imagine every fight you have is the Super Bowl. That's what happens when you're the belt holder. Yeah, that's crazy. It's the best two. Yeah, your name on the arena every time. Exactly.

Like, everyone tuning in to see you. Not some, like, you know, 12th game of the season where you're playing some bum-ass squad where you don't have to go home every single time. Wow. The titles, and the guy who you're fighting has been thinking about that moment his entire adult life. Wow, that's crazy.

Yeah. That's insane. I'm actually excited to see him fight a non-title fight. I'm curious to see like, is he loose? Is he fucking around? Yeah, you gotta be. Yeah, you don't have to carry the weight of the promoter. I mean, I'm sure he's still headlining the card, but it's not like you're not carrying

this weight like you do. And I just wonder what that's like. Like what he said when he was here, he was like, oh yeah, I'm gonna try some new stuff now. Yeah. Like I'm looking forward to that. Like, is he going to try to tap him out? Like what's going on? What are we gonna see? That's yeah. What do you know about Imavav? I guess is a guy's name. I saw Imavov fight some other dude, and I'm forgetting who it was, but I mean, the guy's nice if he's gonna be fighting Izzy.

You know, so, but yeah, I'm just excited to see it. Is it gonna be like when you get back in the clubs after the tour? Yeah. You're done doing arenas, and you're like, you still wanna do good. Yeah. You're like, we can fuck around. Let's have some fun. Let's have some fun. Let's enjoy ourselves a little bit.

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that'll be really cool. And then also you got the Mahashev fight. Makha, fuck his name. Makha chef. Makha chef. You see, you see. Islam. Yeah.

So Islam is fighting Sarukian, and I don't know that much about, I think it's Arand Sarukian, but I know it's their second fight and apparently everybody's saying how amazing Sarukian has been. Let's see what happens, but that's gonna be January 18th. So that'd be cool.

Does Sarukian have a mustache? No, but he's Christian. He's from Georgia. He lost. Or he's Armenian, but still Christian. Yeah. He lost. It was funny where Ariel Hawani was interviewing him

and he kept saying things that were in Arabic. He's like, assalamu alaikum and all these other things. And he's like, okay, I don't know. I just completely lost it about why he was saying these things. So, but yeah, let's see what's going on. You know, we're like detached, I feel like from the rivalries in the Middle East.

So we don't realize the stakes, you know, when like a Georgian fighter fights a Russian fighter. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, or like an Armenian fighter fights a Turkish. Turkish fighter, like we just, it doesn't mean as much to us because we're not ingrained in it.

Yeah. You know, but I imagine that's their version of like, what's a big boxing rivalry like Puerto Rico versus Mexico. Floyd versus the white guy. So yeah I'm excited for these. Obviously get it popping over at stake. You know leader in global betting and US social casinos, bet on top sports, political events, use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus and let's get back to the show. Jelly you've been blowing up. I want to hear about all these stories. I know some of the experiences you must have been having are crazy. I will tell you a story about Saturday Night Live that I don't

know. I'm sure everybody else knew this but me, but I didn't realize that the dress for it's live. It's not like live, live. It's live, live, live. It's live, live. But I didn't realize that the dress rehearsal was for an audience. Yeah. Oh wow. I don't know why I would have missed that. I guess just when you watch it, I'm not enough behind the curtains to know that side of the business

to about out of sauce. So they can use that if they need. Yeah, I didn't know that was an option either. Cause they ended up running the skit that we did in rehearsal that didn't make the actual cuts. They still ran it on YouTube. They just didn't run it on TV. Cause I was in the skit, they just put it on YouTube. But I didn't know that on TV, because I was in the skip, they just put it on YouTube.

But I didn't know that. So I was like, oh, this is like crazy. And that scared me because I nailed dress rehearsal. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how like, if you walk off, and you're like, and I'm walking off, and I nailed it so much that like, they're clapping for me in the hallways.

And I'm like, don't jinx me right now. I'm almost feeling weird about it. Don't praise me, y'all. This is fucking, that didn't count. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't get to replace this one with that one. It's not enough time. That's not how live, live TV works.

I don't get to come off and go, I like the first one better. That is a choice on some live TV shows, but you know what I'm saying? But it's like, this isn't one of those. This is like, all right, well that was practice. The next one's for real. For seven million people

tuned into the 50th season fucking opener, you're like, I'm gonna go out here and blow it. And then I spent two hours just thinking about how I was gonna fuck it up. You know what I mean? I'm just like, there's no way I'm gonna go out here and get this right, that right. So you're just in the green room.

Yeah, I'm just in the green ruminating in it, by the way. Just circling, just, I had to go out and sit with my wife in the audience. So what are you thinking when you're on stage, it's dark and then you hear, ladies and gentlemen, Jelly Roll. What's going through your mind in that moment? I was like, why am I not this nervous the first time?

You know what I'm saying? It was the same introduction, same people. Now I know it's live. So I'm sitting there thinking I should have pissed. That's the first thing you're thinking. You're like, I should have peed. And you're like, I can hold this for three or four. You ever do, do y'all have pre-show pisses?

Oh yeah. Is that like one of those where like literally the host is going up to introduce you and you're like, man, I gotta piss. I already feel like, and if I'm nervous, one sip of water, I gotta go to the bathroom. It's not even, it's like crazy. I'm not embarrassed, I'm not ashamed to admit

I had to piss on my first bucket on this tour. Oh really? What's up, yo? Like on the side of the stage? What did the rest of the arena do? No, no, no. I have moments in the set built where I can kind of get away and figure things out if I have to.

I built three moments into the set for like, just for me to breathe of nothing else, but like, if just something's going wrong with the ear pack, you know, it's a big show I gotta figure shit out sometimes. Yeah, so it was just one of them fucking figure it out moments And I told right before I walked out. I looked at my guy Yanni who's my my my guy and that that particular situation I go Bubba. I Didn't pee he goes. He knew he knows I pee before every show. He said oh no, I say I got an IV But I'm gonna have to pee.

He's like, I'll have a bucket for you under the thing. So I went under the stage and. Fucking 16,000 people here, some guy's doing an electric guitar solo and you're like, this feels weird. You know what I'm saying? And you're like, but you gotta pee so bad, you don't have a choice.

You did that one time. You did that one, wait. Multiple times? Multiple times. Which was your version, I'll tell you. When I did Kill Tony at MSG, like, I was so, my flight got delayed coming back from somewhere. We were open from Shreveport.

Shreveport was 50. Oh, Shreveport, I did the 50 cent thing. Yeah, because we didn't think you were gonna make it. Yeah, and so I come in from the 50 cent thing, I'm like texting Tony, like, dude, I don't know if I'm gonna make it, I'm trying my best, whatever. I get in, I get there, I'm like, boom, we're on.

And they're like, okay, you're gonna go on next, somebody's gonna go up right now. I'm like, okay, I go to the Ron White's dressing room to take a shit. And as I'm like wiping, I hear them go, give it up, from New York City. So I'm like mid-wipe, shit caked all over my ass. Pull up my pants, go up there, sit down.

Didn't wash my hands at all. Dapped up everybody with the duty fingers. Went up there with the duty fingers. No, I seen you look frantic when you got up there. Oh yeah, it was a lot of energy. I was like, he doesn't, because it was the last 12 minutes of the chat. That's true.

Yeah. We were sitting in front of the house, smoking and jointing. I was like, he made it. Yeah. What about Amsterdam, when they didn't have a bathroom in the whole backstage. What was that one? A little paper waste bin.

Oh yeah, peed behind the stage, right? It was like they had the like fake green room that they built inside the arena thing. But there's no bathrooms. Yeah. So you just had a rip in the trash can. I mean, yeah. And then after the show you went up to some poor woman

and you're like, by the way, that trash can's gotta go. Yeah. I mean, there was one time where I was wearing these pants. You usually have a jean or something like that, or a darker. But there was a pant I was wearing, I don't know why, it was light. And I peed and I was in a rush, so I didn't let it last. You gotta shake. Yeah, I'm a shaker, I have to shake.

Like at my age, I would say between 40% of my pee out when I pee and 60% when I shaked. Okay? Yeah. And I didn't have time to shake and I remember running to stage and just feeling myself pee on myself. Like a full pee. Full pee, like going down the leg

as they're playing like the intro video for me. And I remember just like taking the pants and like rubbing it into one another. Like that, trying to dry it. Like pulling whatever shirt that I had down over it. You were wearing denim or something light too. You're a brave man. It was light, it was light.

Oh yeah, yeah. Whoa, you and I before, y'all brave with them light colored span. I got too much of a dribble too, man. Oh, I'm straight dribbled. Yeah, it's bad. The difference between me and you is at least you can, when you shake it's just a shake.

I gotta do a little bit of a little bit of hopscotching. You know what I'm saying? What was the game with Twister? I gotta do a little Twister. I gotta do a little, I gotta put one hand here, one hand here. You know what I'm saying? Give a little hand here. You know what I'm saying? Give a little hip thrust.

You know what's interesting is like, I'll be very deliberate about peeing in the toilet when I'm peeing. When I shake, it's a helicopter. I mean, it's almost as if like shake, dribble, wherever that goes doesn't count. Like it's on the sink, it's everywhere, it's on the mirror, the bathroom, it's everywhere.

But I don't feel any need to clean that up. For whatever reason, I don't know why, it's the same pee. It's like, you know like when you're in a pool and you pee, it's okay. I don't know if you can take that up. No, no, no, I'm interested. I'm gonna gross you out even more. But like when you're in a pool and you pee,

that's like okay. If you're outside of a pool and you pee into a pool, that's not okay. Peeing in the pool versus peeing into the pool. What are you talking about, son? No, what do you mean? Peeing into a pool is a little different. You get out of a pool to pee?

I mean, I don't really swim like that, to be honest. You're being really honest. But like, you would leave the pool to pee? You would go do that? Yeah. You would do that? You would do that? You'd be like, you're not gonna do that? You would do that? You would do that?

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Yeah, they told me that in the 90s. Well, maybe it's a fake video. But what's up with the chlorine then? Like, what does the chlorine do? I thought that's to clean out the pee. That's what smells like chlorine. I try not to piss in other people's pools. Say again?

I try not to piss in other people's pools. That's a policy I try to hold to. I cannot help. You know what I'm saying? My pool, if I got real piss. You were in his pool in Miami, I hope he peed in it. I don't think I peed in that pool. He peed in that pool, obviously. I did, yeah, yeah pool, if I got real pissed. You were in his pool in Miami, I hope you peed in it. I don't think I peed in that pool, he peed in that pool, obviously.

I did, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%, I did. I didn't even know that you weren't supposed to. I'm genuinely, like you saying I don't pee in other people's pools, like my brain just exploded. I was like, oh, you're not supposed to do that? Like, do you see it as like taking your shoes off before you enter like an Asian thing?

No, no, no, I'm just like that. Or in your home? You don't take your shoes off the pool enter like an Asian thing? No, no, no, just like that. Or in your home. You don't take your shoes off in your home? No, I walk around the home. I thought chlorine was to keep the water from getting stale, like pond water, you know what I'm saying? I thought it was to clean the pee out of the pool. No, I think it's more for like, you know,

if water just sits stale like that and it don't get nothing, no chemical in it, the water will start, you know, watering. You know what I'm saying? It'll start growing out of it. I don't know what, no chemical in it, and the water will start, you know, watering. You know what I'm saying? It'll start growing out of it. I don't know what that means, man. I get it. You get mosquitoes, you get mosquitoes.

I'm gripping around a pond, and the water will start watering. I'm just telling you, man, I've been around a pond or two. You know what I'm saying? Please, the only thing that keeps a pool from being a pond is chlorine. You know what the's clear. And that's nothing. There's something for the pee. The only thing that keeps a pool from being a pond is chlorine. You know what the bummer about having a dribble is?

Is that like, like I would never pee on my wife. But like, let's say that we got to a point in our relationship where we were like, let's try to spice it up. We're 60 years old or whatever. Were you doing it in the shower first? No, but like if I peed on her, right? And I wouldn't do this, but if I peed on her,

I would finish and then I have to be like, well, hold on, most of it's about to come out now. Like, we can't just get up now, like we gotta be here for the little drizzle. Like, I gotta spackle it up. And I'm like, here comes the helicopter. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm gonna need another ounce and a half out. Yeah, exactly, yeah. So like, it would really just destroy the mood. Like, as hot as it is, just getting drenched in urine. Then me being like, well, here comes the rest of it. Is, yeah. How old are you? I'm fit to be 40.

I'm 40, my dick is 90. Don't fuck. I have a little dick. I don't got the drip, I got the, my problem is my piss is in spurts. I know when I think I'm done, I got another one coming. I just gotta be patient. Oh yeah. You know what I mean?

I just gotta stand there for another second and be like, there's a whole nother one of these. On the way. I just gotta sit here and relax. I know that, I know well. Like when you hold the hose closed. Yeah, for exactly. It's like, I know it's on the way.

Do you shit on the bus? Do you shit on the tour bus? No, no, I gotta shit in a bag instead. What? Have you ever had to shit during a show? What? Can I be honest with you? There was a show. No, no, no, no shit in a bag instead. What? Have you ever had to shit during a show? What? Can I be honest with you? What?

There was one show. You're trying to whut each other up. This is going to get crazy. There was one show where I went on stage knowing full well I had to shit and I remember I got off that stage and I beelined it to the bathroom and I filled that fucking thing up. I created like a volcanic island. Oh God. The dude filled the hole and then grew and then breached the surface of the water. And I filled that fucking thing up. I created like a volcanic island like The hole and then grew and then breached the surface of the water. Those are always great. Those are satisfying.

I feel the class was awesome. Yeah, you killed it. It's one of those where you look at your stomach in the mirror afterwards. Cool. And you check your abs. It was one of those. That was one of the infamous. Why? Have you shit on stage? Well, first of all, my wife's gonna hate this podcast. I have no shit shame,

and she shames me for it all the time. Good. I have zero shit shame. We need that as man, that's important. I don't have it, but we were playing Pittsburgh at a bar that was connected to a bowling alley. Nice. So there was like, this was the bar.

This was back in the day, yeah. Yeah, this is eight years ago, seven years ago. Maybe fuck, six years ago even. And it's like a 500 capper, right? There's no, the back, our green room is through the crowd. It's one of those things. And our green room didn't have a bathroom. I hate that.

So you would have to go into the bowling. I, what the fuck, dude? But the way the backstage was set up, behind the stage was like an outdoor fenced in area that you could sit at a picnic table. You see where this story's going? Yes. I like this. I'm on stage.

I like this. Listen man, I can't believe I've done this on this podcast. And I feel it rumbling. I'm like, it's finna happen. I hit the drummer and I'm like, yo, I just need y'all to vamp. Just like, you know, everybody gets a solo. We don't even got ears.

So you don't have a microphone to talk back. Like now we can go talk. We have full conversations on that stage because we can hit one microphone that just us can hear. Oh, smart. Yeah, it's crazy fire. So it's like, that wasn't an option. So I'm having to like go to my guy, like play.

I'm fixing this shit. And I walked straight out the back door where that little back patio was, drop my draws. My wife standing right there going, what are you doing? We've been married maybe a year. And I had, this is like prime drug, jelly roll, drinking is like, prime drug jelly roll drinking codeine cocaine. My shit was, it was in all,

just water almost, just soft serve water. And I couldn't hide stuff. They played for me. Was it coming down your thighs? It's worse when fat people talk about it, right? It really is, I'm sorry. I'm imagining, was it coming down your thigh? I'm gonna be honest, I don't think you can avoid the thighs.

Yeah, so with that, are you squatting during this? Are your legs just straight? No, I'm doing like a little hover thing, you know what I'm saying? I'm doing like the best squat I could do for the size I was. That's the thing. I'm pressed up against the fence probably. I've had to shit, I'm from the country. You're like a bear. You know what I'm pressed up against the fence probably. I've had this shit, I'm from the country. I've had this shit a while. You know what I'm saying?

I've never, the shitting on the side of the road is not a new concept to me sadly. So I'm experienced in that moment, nothing. You just kind of get up there. God damn, Joey! You kind of get up there. You're not a liquid shitting on one. You savage!

Listen, listen. Swung your ass against a brick. Listen, the worst part of this podcast is gonna be when I have to You went to stage with shit all over your ass and hands. What are you talking about? Yeah, I did. I'm not proud of it.

But he was in his grave. I tried to. You were doing something crazy. I wiped and I broke. I broke my tongue. Oh, that's petty. No, you can't. Now that's fucking.

He's lying, but it's disgusting. No, I didn't do that. It still feels real. I did do that. I did do that. Why did I lie about that? So I look cool? Makes me look cool. It's working.

Fingers my own ass. This is a true story. I might. I know one time where I'm not going to keep telling shit stories. No. I. No. I didn't know.

So you went liquid shit. You went liquid shit air drawings? This is the wildest five-day-long I've ever done in my life. That's where you got to shake. You got to shake after that liquid shit air. No, no. You got to do one of those for sure. And no, no, you know what else you gotta do?

You gotta squeeze the butt cheeks together and then squat and then squeeze. You know what I'm saying? Just trying to get that. Yeah, yeah, get it all out. Get it all out, toothpaste, yeah. I've had to do, I've been in the country, I've had to wipe with leaves before.

You've had to wipe with leaves? That's kinda nice actually, I've done that. No, that's not, that stuff, Mark Volcari does that. That'll tear that asshole apart. He's in his bathroom. And the smoothest, the smoothest leave out there is gonna butcher that butthole.

I'm like. You know what I'm saying? Ha ha ha ha ha! Ha! I like that! You guys are country! Wiping with a smooth leaf? Because it can't be too smooth or it's not gonna grab.

I need some grip. It ain't friction. I need grip. Listen, I have to. I gonna grab. I need some grip. I need grip. I need grip. I need it to be like a skateboard. The first time I went to my uncle's farm, my cousin shit and wiped with poison ivy. Oh no!

Poison oak. It was poison oak, it just looks like a regular oak leaf. Oh wow. What was poison oak? And then what happened? Oh, he flamed his ass up. What are you talking about? It's all bad, man.

We had a neighbor that did that. It was so bad. Have you ever had poison ivy? Poison ivy I've had. He was like, I'm not lying. I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God,

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I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God,

I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, I swear to God, his wife came out of the room like two hours later, she was like, my breasts are burning. I swear to God, I'm not lying. She's like, my breasts, I just don't know what it is. If you touch poison ivy or poison oak, you can't piss. You can't, yeah, touch your dick after that. Watch, bub, that stuff is, it's like chicken pox. It goes with everything it touches. We gotta do an episode of Hot Ones, bro.

We need Hot Ones with that. Touch your dick after Poison Ivy. It is fucking, it is crazy. Can you transfer to other people? Immediately. Yeah, yeah. That's how his wife got it. There's literally, if I touch a Poison Ivy right now and I grab my dick, I'm not touching your back above.

If you touch my dick, that shit will get swollen. Oh no, look. If you touch my dick, that shit will get swollen. Oh, no. Look. Maybe that's, yeah, I don't know, but maybe that's what the foreskin or whatever was designed to do initially. It is a sheath. It is like a protective layer.

Yeah. Damn. Yeah, you need that. You need that. Do you think the foreskin is immune to types of ivy or poison? I think it is immune to a lot of poison. I think you could drag that fucking hangy dick Bush of poison open sometimes. It does collect little things off like what like you know like little like stickers and stuff it collects Oh, yeah, if you're a clam like if we open you up is there gonna be a little marble? Yeah, there's jewels. Oh my God.

You let it go too long. Can we do that on a Patreon? Yeah, we might need to. That'd be kind of sick. That's why you just gotta go commando, bro. You have a bidet? I live by bidets. Oh, man.

Ernest and them sent me a bunch of bidets during COVID. We don't need one. Somebody found, no, we got one. Listen, so my wife did multiple bathrooms. You know my wife thought we me a bidet commode because I like the attachment so much. Wait, what? Yeah.

Oh, with the wireless situation. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yes. This was like, she bought the one from wherever they make them at. They got full ass toilets. Do you care, whatever. They got like a dryer and a wire.

And it was a big one. I thought it'd be, it's crazy. Dude, you got a whole toilet. The whole toilet is one. Yes, the whole toilet is one. I can control was crazy. Dude, you got a whole toilet. The whole toilet is one. Yes, the whole toilet is one. I can control the temperature. That's the underrated water. The heated toilet seat would go on.

Yeah, that's sick. Instant relax that we've been talking about. Why are they so good at the toilet thing? Why did the Japanese... Why are we not? We eat the most shit the most gotta be. Why are we not more focused on ass hygiene? I had a bidet for years now.

Bidet? Same thing. Did America invent the portafide? Did we invent the portafide? Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. the most shit the most gotta be yeah why we not more focused on ass hygiene yeah but they for years now but they know did America invent the porta potty did we feel like that's something we would have oh must have yeah George Harding made the first port potty in 1960 yeah that's great yeah that's great damn it makes me wonder how they were shitting in festivals before that I like Woodstock Woodstock was in the 60s though yeah but they just oh that's a good point but yeah though they oh, that's a good point. But yeah, though they had a, that was a problem with Woodstock. Man, you were like a fucking idiot right there. They didn't have enough.

Well, I don't know if they had a port-a-potty. No, they didn't have enough. The problem was, you know the story about Woodstock, right? Y'all know this? No. I'm gonna butcher it, and y'all correct me, but at least in the spirit of me trying to get it right, is they anticipated, based on like ticket sales,

this to be a flop. They staffed it for like 4,000 people. So what happened was because it was so loose, they didn't even put fences up or try to gate it or nothing. They were just like, look, it's just kind of, at this point it's integrated. We sold 4,000 tickets. Anybody who wants to show up can come.

But back then it wasn't like you could post that on fucking TikTok. You know what I mean? So they thought, you know, maybe our neighbors will come. Maybe, you know, the community will come together. They were expecting like five, 7,000 people at most. When a half a million mother, and the word started getting out,

fucking Jimi Hendrix, all this crazy shit's happening and it's free. They don't have a fence. It's like, it's a third, you know, right? So it immediately just like the whole, this part of America, whoosh, right into it as well. So yeah, no, there was shit everywhere.

I was a big part of it. When you watch the documentary, it's super bad. The other problem was they didn't know how to feed people. And there were so many people backed up on the interstate highways. That's why there was only one Woodstock. It was a logistical nightmare. The other side of the beauty of what we see is they could not, they thought people were gonna die. It was a logistical nightmare. The other side of the beauty of what we see is

they thought people were gonna die. It was really bad. The locals came in and started cooking like big bowls of chicken and rice just to mass feed people. They wasn't ready to feed that many. They wasn't ready for, that area of New York wasn't ready

for a half a million motherfuckers. It was. Still probably beyond a million. You feel bad for the Fire Fest guy. He's like, I went to prison for this. The Woodstock guys got like the greatest documentary ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm all about second chances and redemption too though. I would hear them out. I would give them an audience. You know what I mean? Like, yo, what did you really learn? Did you know? Did you not come out?

Like the problem is with prison is people either come out and really want to change their life or they come out smarter criminals. And that's the truth. And you just, and I'm all about second chances. So yeah, I'd hear them out, but my gut reaction is fucking no. Not in that long.

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are saving $800 a month on average. Now let's get back to the show. You're headlining, this is. Stagecoach. Yeah, this is the big one. Huge, huge, huge. It's our Coachella. I know y'all work ridiculous and asking y'all to do something other than

on a Saturday. I wanna go to that. Stagecoach would be awesome. So it's you, who else? It's gonna be, so Luke Combs or Zach Bryan's, but Luke Combs is Friday night. I headline Saturday night and Zach Brian headline Sunday night. Wow. Zach Brian's gonna be 75,000.

It's gonna be, I mean, it's gonna be insane. Yeah. Where is it? It's April, it's the- Coachella is the first week. First two weeks and then the week after it is. Yeah. And then hold on, there's a fun little thing. T-Pain, Creed and Backstreet Boys. Oh, I'll be fun little thing. T-Pain, Creed, and Backstreet Boys. I'll be there.

Oh, fire. T-Pain is fire, dude. Don't actually look over Nelly doing 25 years of Country Grammable. Oh, hell yeah. Lana Del Rey, Sammy Hagar. Sturgle. Sammy Hagar's the man, by the way.

Oh, Sturgle's gonna be awesome. Sturgle's my knight. Son, we were just talking about Nelly last weekend, and how like, man, that first album, on fucking believe it. This is down on me celebrating, Country Grammys. Country Grammys, EI. Doing all Country Grammys. Ride With Me. Those were just like those took over the country. Shabuzy's My Night, Coe, Wetzel, Ashley. This night is special. I was pulling up. Can't tell you man. Deadass. Flattlin' Cavalry. This is awesome.

What is this? What? 25th, 26th, 27th? Of what? April. I'm in there. I'm coming. I'm bringing a wife. How crazy is it to have the baby out there? It's great. Come on. We'll put the headphones on and people bring babies all the time. It's great.

The weather was great when we were out there. Also, the baby can stay. You're not like, it's not like a woodstock type thing where you're like there the whole day. You can go back to the house and then come back for different. It's so easy to come back. And also, especially on my night,

I have the whole compound, so it's whatever. I'll give you your own. you'll have your own room. Don't worry about that, we'll take care of you. Yeah, okay, that'll be fine. Definitely don't worry. We'll roll out to Red Carpet, it'll be fine. Trust me, we're cool. This is a big deal for us.

One thing y'all know about me is I'm like y'all, this is how we became friends, is that we treat every moment that is a moment like it's a moment. So y'all know what the fuck, I'm fixing it. Saturday night. It should say Jelly Rollin' Friends, cause I am fucking, I got big tricks up my sleeve.

Oh wow. I got big tricks up my sleeve I'll talk about. Oh wow. I've already got one commitment, if this one commitment's the only one it comes through, it's gonna be the most legendary thing that I've ever had on stagecoach. Really?

And I got two more calls out for even crazier looks. Wow. And like seeing that like Saturday of stagecoach, that's when everyone is there. It's like, that's a Jay-Z Beyonce main stage for equivalent of what they should. I was just gonna say, you should bring up Beyonce. Yeah, that's the weekend at Coachella.

Yeah. It's that same audience. Not the weekend weekend, it's obviously the biggest artist ever. I'm just thinking what drugs he's gonna be doing that night. No, no, I haven't been into the drugs. Though I'm being, the- Fatherhood, that's the drug.

Yeah, fatherhood. I haven't smoked a cigarette or anything since the baby and I haven't touched drugs since the baby. Wow Hmm and not really even had any interest in doing it. It's kind of weird. What's that? But I will say this burning man is calling me a little bit I was talking to my my my The guy who does a like PT and training stuff, shout out to him, he's fucking unbelievable, you guys should definitely get in touch with him. If you can, he's incredible, truly incredible. Like save my shoulder, my shoulder,

I was getting cortisone, what are they called, cortisone? Cortisone or cortisol, cortisone? It's a cortisone, yeah. Cortisone shots, a doctor was literally like, yeah, this is just what your shoulder's gonna be like, a doctor. And then him and a, in other words, they basically just what your shoulders are gonna be like a doctor. And then him and another one. They basically just like saved my show. Like truly remarkable. Makes me truly believe in PT. Anyway.

Oh, fuck. I can't. Now we got to believe his name because I want to tell you the other thing. But he's like a chemist with everything in his life in terms of what he puts in his body. Outside, like with food, etc. And then just today he was breaking down his like, how he does the night, how he ramps up the night. And yeah, he tests his own drugs. Wow. He creates his own pills out of it.

Wow. Like he's so- Or dosing himself. He's down to the micro-science. Perfectly, like he's got down to a science, what he needs to have his perfect cortisone, right? Oh, the cortisone. So the second he told me that shit, I was like, I think I need to get high again.

I didn't know you could do it like a science. You know, that seems safe. Bless him, man. It's learning, really, when you get down to it. I've been a parent a little bit before, a little while now, and I can tell you one of the most pieces of parent advice I can give my two young fathers here, especially for you and your wife,

which I've met both of your wives and I think they're both sweet people. It's important for y'all to find time to not be parents. And I know you're early in the process, so that sounds unreal at this moment. But it is important that y'all go to Burning Man and completely fucking lose your mind and forget the kids.

That is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. that y'all go to Burning Man and completely fucking lose your mind and forget the kids. That is the only thing that will make that balancing act work. Because a little night out with some wine or a weekend away in a hotel, a staycation, that's not enough. You need every now and then to go out and be like, we're fucking college kids again. We're fucking going to get naked and swing from chandeliers. We're going to get kicked out of a fucking hotel. Like it's important every now and then.

All parents out there listening, trust the fat man with this one, y'all, I swear. It is a backbone of something me and Bunny have stood by. It's like, it is important to every now and then, because even you'll go out and do stuff, and we're parents 24 hours a day, seven days a week, three or six, five days a year. Every now and then, I just don't need to be one.

You know, it's funny, it's like, you spend so much more time with your wife, your partner, whatever, once you have a kid, but it is fundamentally nothing like the time that you've spent in the past. So before any time you get together, right, as a dude, you obviously calculate, you're like, okay, we got tons of time this week, this is awesome,

we didn't get time next week. But when you're with the baby, you think you're getting that same experience, but you're not filling each other up in the same way. You're getting filled up by that baby, that baby is euphoria, right? But there is another component, which is filling each other up.

And whether, I don't know if it's, you know, you gotta go crazy every single time, but literally just making sure you go out to dinner. Like that's something that my wife and I, half hour going to get coffee. Like having 30 minutes where we can talk to one another, maybe there's some shit we gotta work out. Maybe there's a disagreement we got.

And there's just, well we don't wanna argue for the baby. Exactly. Like creating those times, and at first you almost feel selfish. You're like, why am I trying to create time with me and my wife when we have a baby? We should be spending every single second with the baby.

But you realize that maybe that's the most important thing for that baby. If things are great between us, everything's good. And if they're not good between us, they are in a really difficult situation. If something nobody will prepare you for, nobody talks about it, like nobody tells you right before you have a kid,

by the way, your relationship is gonna completely change the dynamic, the how you guys spend time, and you need to be ready for that change and do everything that you need to make sure that you're both getting what you need from each other within that change. It's a whole extra prioritization too, because you're like, initially it's like, I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work from each other within that change. It's a whole extra prioritization too. Oh yeah.

Initially it's like I'm just, you know, I'm already juggling work and these other ideas I have and ambitions and dreams and hobbies with my wife. Now I'm juggling, and then it's easy to lump them together. Oh, it's my wife and kid. And I had to learn fast, like it's not. It ain't that. That is one thing with me and my wife are a separate thing

and this is where it gets deeper when they get older. And me and my kid are a separate thing too. Because then you'll fall guilty sometimes, be like, oh, I've got it great, I they get older and me and my kid are a separate thing too, because then you'll fall guilty sometimes, be like, oh, I've got it great, I got the wife and kids and then I got the wife, it's like, well, no, you still gotta go sit down and be just a dad, dude. She needs just you. Yeah, like you still gotta go put in that.

And you need that just her time too. You need just her time, it's important for growth. And me, sneaking away, getting them dinners, going on those things, they're important, equally important, once a year, go blow it out, be fucking irresponsible, you're not stand by it, dude. It's been year go blow it out. Be fucking irresponsible. It's a four-night stand-by, dude. It's been such an important thing for me and my wife.

There's that thing on Instagram that like everybody's been, every male friend group has been forwarding to one another and none of us have been forwarding to our wives, but it was like, study says that men need two nights out a week with the boys. Have you guys seen that pop up on your Instagram? No, fuck my algorithm doing it. Girls in control of it. But like, it is, I don't know what the exact number is.

Like obviously we're very lucky we get to come here and like shoot the shit and just have a lot of fun. But that is an important thing to communicate as well. Like that's a really hard thing to say to the person you love more than anything in the world is, hey, I need to not be with you tonight. Yeah, you know what I mean? I think my wife was like I just love spending time with you and I was like I also love spending time with me So I need to do that right now What you're feeling is what I'm feeling I need that right now Bunny Bunny quit drinking many years ago

and everything I gave up, I'll still go out and tie one on every now and then. And I've cut it back immensely, but that's what Bunny does understand is that when I do have that let go. ranger in me, Bunny is, I love her for this, cause my wife stands, she'll be,

she'll call it early. She'll be like, you might just need to find a night to go out. Like she'll start kind of pushing me like, when have you done something, you know, go do something. So like, even like the other night when we're sitting around, it's my first night off in probably 17, 18 days. And she was like, you should go rest.

I was like, Solace is at a comedy club. I get to catch him at a cellar. And while we're here, I want to book, I don't want to bookmark it. I want you to let me get through this. When I seen you at the life tour, I can tell you beyond the shadow of a doubt, it's gonna be one of the greatest hours of standup

wherever in the witness. Oh, God bless, man. It is his best hour. Thank you, bro. No, no, no, it's not about being your best hour. Thank you. It is going to be one of the best hours ever. And I had a moment when you were at The Cellar,

cause this is why I wanted to come see you too. I had a moment at The Cellar, I was like, I seen it at Nashville Comedy Fest in April. The way y'all's business work is different than mine. It's only gotten better. It couldn't have gotten worse. The way y'all's business is, you've only found, I seen you working out little shit.

I'm like, oh, he's still picking this thing fucking apart. And I've seen it fucking, you know what I mean? You can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name caught me off guard. I had flash shots of when you announced the life tour and it's this silhouette of you. You can use this part or not if you don't want to. Even down to the name caught me off guard. I had flash shots of when you announce the life tour and it's this silhouette of you. I have these flash shots of you in this 1964 Impala

doing, you know, at your first big LA theater show, right? I'm looking at these Schultz moments and I'm like, oh, I bet this is gonna be, you know, I remember the plane Schultz and like, I just remember these eras of like, I wonder what this is gonna be. So I went in expecting more of that and was like, get the fuck out of here.

I was like, this dude's a fucking, this is brilliant. You're gonna send so many people so much more than, motherfuckers know you're that, they know you're healed, but they still underestimate you. That's over. That's why I say it's his best hour, given everything he's done for this to still be his best hour. I don't say that lightly.

Thank you, man. They're gonna goad hedge on this one, dog. Oh, thank you, man. It was fucking special. So anyways, I tell my wife, I'm like, yo, Salsa said to sell her. And she's like, oh, fucking go. She immediately was like, cause she knows I need that.

She's like, she knows how much I need to like, she knows how much y'all fill me up and how much I love comedy. And she's like, just go be somewhere where you fucking aren't you. That's a lot of confidence for her to say that too. Like for her not to see that as a sense of rejection, like you don't wanna be with her.

And that takes time also, like that's maturity. It's very easy I think to get caught up, and many women can get caught up in this feeling of like, oh, if my partner doesn't wanna be with me, does that mean they don't like me? Am I not as fun as that other thing? Do they wanna be with someone else? Yeah, exactly.

Or something else cooking, you're right. Yeah, and we both do it. And then instead of saying, hey, I'm hurt, we get upset at them or try to catch them in things because it's way easier to be like, you're wrong than say, I feel insecure. So I commend her for that. That's a very mature position.

I'm telling you, and I was gonna go hang out with her and she was like, no, go, man. Bunny's just, that's just where she's at. She's always encouraged, but she knows my heart, too. She knows like, this dude's been fucking, you know, like, because when I get to get in those situations, I don't have to be the dude. I just get to be with the dudes.

You know what I'm saying? She knows how much I need that. You know what I mean? Like, so it's just so cool. You get to relax a little bit. That's interesting. I didn't think about it like that. Like, everybody, when you're on tour

and you're doing, you're doing all these different things, everything is around your orbit. And then when you go hang out with some other guys that it's not related to your show or anything you're doing in your life. And we're genuinely just friends? Yeah, everybody's just hanging. There's no longer this pressure, this expectation,

everybody waiting to see if it's time for you to go Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then my connection always with y'all too Is it watching that we were all in clubs together and have built this thing in like a parallel path? So it's like now we're now we're just sitting being homies. We're dudes and now we're giving inside trader secrets, right? No, what's this? What's that? What's the deal on this? What's the deal on that? you know what I mean, and you getting with Kels that night was special for me because I wanted, I had multiple conversations with him where I was like, I have so many people

that if they knew you were this charming would feel so differently about you. I was like, could you just humor me and just go show people this? And he was like, and I love him so much because he was so open to it. And it was so innocent because he was like, how? And I was like, buh buh, man. Because you know, he had come up such a rock star way

it had been semi-traditional media. So he had never like, I mean. There wasn't a lot of opportunity to show personality. Like you're only seeing art and you're only seeing pictures. For sure. And then you spoke about that

about even like through podcasting. Like podcasting, you really get a sense of like who somebody is. You can't come in here and fake it for two and a half hours. Two hours is a long time. The fucking boy's on flagrant. I tell my people in Nashville that all the time. You can't go sit on Joe Rogan for two and a half hours

and Joe not get you to tell people who the fuck you are. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna happen. It's just inevitable. You can't shoot, where have I go do Exactly. You know what I'm saying? It's just inevitable.

You can't shoot, where have I go do a 12 minute clip for this particular show. In America or whatever. It's pretty easy to kind of, you know, okay, we don't really gotta really dig up into the weeds here. And a lot of artists avoid this because they know that it can only do us wrong. This is only risky for most artists.

There's gonna be shit stories that come up. Yeah, there's gonna be shit stories. They're gonna be fucking funny headlines, you know what I mean? But if you are a magnetic personality, then it's a great platform. It's a great platform. That's what I tell him, I'm like, yo, Pub, just like,

Kelle, I was like, and go somewhere you like, go somewhere you're interested in because you dig what they do or somewhere you feel safe. And then immediately he's like, you're friends with Flagrant. I was like, those are my boys. And he was like, I gotta get with him. I was like, those are my boys. And he was like, I gotta get with him. I was like, I'm gonna tell you how that works. You're gonna have to meet them,

because they're dudes. You know what I'm saying? I needed to tell that Leo story. I'm not gonna say anything else, but he told the story there. Listen man, that dude's got the best stories. We gotta get him on this couch, man. He's fucking hilarious.

So he had an interest in him, like he's this young kid in Hollywood at the time where it's like him, Bieber, and like a few other people going. And like. Are you going to piss? Yeah. Yeah.

We can't let him drink water. We can't let him drink water. There's a bucket in the corner. We'll give him a piss, but I gotta put a towel in it. He was, and it was just like going, like that time where there were these young people in Hollywood just going crazy, the stories that came out of that were quite entertaining.

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Like, it's also there's a circulation. But if you had the size, you wouldn't call it doctor. There you go. No, yeah, probably not. No, no, no. You're talking about size. If your dick got black and then grew, you'd be like, ass, probably good thing. No, that's fair.

If you just looked down one day and you had a black dick. Yeah. You're all going to feel gray. No, because I think it's, I think it's. How do you be a little concerned? Yeah. You're all gonna feel great. No, because I think it's I think it's how do you be a little concerned? What if it's bigger? It's it's it's more girthy as to use the word art from our leader. Yeah. Yeah No, in that case, I would be fine with it. Yeah. Yeah, I would do black. It's like the good hotchkins

That's something else that we're judging gk because I think about this all the time for him. I thank God I didn't burst on the scene at 25. Cause like the way I thought at 25 and would have projected myself into critical mass. You know what I mean? It would have not favored me for sure. What I thought was cool though is like, cause if you ask me a question,

I'm gonna give you a real answer. And he was straight up, he was just like, yeah, so what do you think this is? And I was like, all right, well, these are my thoughts on it. And that's heavy. If you're asking me to describe your perception, where your career is at, all these different things, like I tell you honestly, and he was like, he thought he was, he reflect on, he was like, oh, wow, I can see that.

A lot of people would fight for their perceived identity in that moment and be like, no, I disagree with you about these types of things. But he'd be like, analyze it and say, oh, okay, I can see why that might be that. And I was like, oh, that was kinda cool. He's so, man, every conversation I've ever had with him, he's so, even down to like this,

I joked with you that night and I'm in, I'm like, I'm his publicist right now, Tafio. You know what I'm saying? I'm out here showing the world, like this dude is so much, even when we got back to circle back to the him and him thing is like, that's why I see so much of them in each other. I just think that he was so young during all of that too. You know what I mean?

Like even what he did to initially make him mad into the battle era of like, you know, man, that dude's got a, you know, like we're watching this new video with him and I'm getting choked up watching his daughter get married and announce a child. Yeah. But equally, I'm just with MGK at MGK day in Cleveland

and he's got a 16 year old that's like already taking college classes. Crazy, right? Like, genius kid, he's like, this dude flies every weekend from LA to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like every week, and I'm like, if people knew that about you, dude flies every weekend from LA to go be a volleyball dad. You know what I mean? Like every weekend I'm like,

if people knew that about you, besides this picture of you wearing this fucking wild outfit, you know what I'm saying? It would be such a, I know how fast it made my shift of you. You know what I mean? Whenever I'm talking to you and I'm seeing the consistency, I'm like, where you at?

He's like, on my way to Cleveland. I'm like, damn, volleyball again this weekend? He's like, every weekend, dog, for 28. He quit, he took a year off of touring. Tens of millions of dollars, like, nah, man, it's gonna be like one of the last years I can watch her play. Like, that's the kind of duty is it,

like, where his spirit's at right this particular moment. And that's the type of thing that comes out when you share your personal life. But it's scary to share your personal life, too. Super. Especially when, you know, I imagine, like, there's certain people in the industry that have, their idea of like crafting a rock star

is a very specific certain thing. Right. And they're like, no, we have to keep you as mysterious and weird and all this other stuff. And he might be like, okay, well, yeah, I like doing rock and I like dressing weird, but I also like going to volleyball games with my daughter. And that's often more relatable than the mystery.

I think he grew up in Egypt too or something, doesn't he have Christian missionary parents or something like that? I know his mother's like a Viking or something like that, that's why he got all the blacks, I swear man, like super, it's a crazy story, that's why he got all that black out shit tattooed on him. It was a great, he told me one night the full story,

but I was really high. I was really, really, so I don't want to butcher that story completely. But I swear. When was the last time you tied one on? When was the last time you really went for it? SNL. Oh really?

Of course. Late night? We came out of a burlesque bar at eight o'clock in the morning with Post and MGK. Literally, the box or something like that. Oh yeah. Follow where you went. Super awesome.

Of course. Dude, listen y'all, I'm from Antioch, Tennessee, dude. I played on Saturday Night Live. You know how fucking absurd that is? Like when you really start rapping, like if you, I tell people they know that I'm a criminal by my history and I talk about it openly, but if you just like seen it on a sheet of paper

and then said, that guy played on Saturday Night Live. You'd be like, get the fuck out of here. Dude, to that point, I listen to this sports station in Dallas, I always talk about it, but they said, you performed at a cafe in a radio station. When I say cafe, I mean two vending machines, some small tables. I don't even know, like 99.5, The Wolf, I think,

is there in Dallas. Yeah, true story. I don't know how long ago that was. I can't even, I don't even understand that part of your5, The Wolf, I think, is there in Dell. I don't know how long ago that was. I can't even, I don't even understand that part of your life. What is that journey like for you? What do you reflect on? Like, do you remember that moment?

Yeah, for sure. That was just a few years ago too, man. That was just me going to radio and just trying to be like, yo, man, this is my record. I just would be honored if y'all take a chance to hear it. I was just like telling my story, you know what I mean? But even the early, dude, we played bars for, when you see my show and double the test for this,

it reeks of a man who's done a thousand. You know what I mean? Like, does that make sense? Like, I kind of, I joked with Shultz when I was like, have you ever had his shit on stage? But I knew that he's done enough shows. That there was a story there. There's no way you've stood on that many stages

and the bubble guts haven't hit you to the point of being like, I gotta get the fuck off here. You know what I mean? There's a difference between people who have had years on the road, especially with comics, and then comics who kind of blow up quick. And they can be funny, the comics that blow up quick,

but there's different chops on stage. And I imagine the same thing is probably multiplied by 10 when it comes to bands or it comes to music. There's no replacement for a decade of shitty shows because that is going to put you in every scenario possible. Dude, it's the TikTok era. Oh man, this is good, Shultz. Has done this so much because these kids will blow up and be able to sell 2,000 tickets

but have never done a single show in their life. Or 3,000 or 5,000. With all due respect, you saw with Ice Spice in our earliest shows, here's this girl that goes from not doing anything to these massive shows and she had to learn how to perform. You gotta learn how to perform in front of the world. Like she had to, and imagine how scary that is.

You go from rapping in some random studio to having 10,000 people in front of you. And you're just like, fuck, it's not just saying the words anymore. I gotta dance, I gotta have charisma. It's a different game. It is a totally different game. It's also about them getting honest booking agents.

I'm watching this Aaron Hernandez thing on the FX right now. And it was so interesting when he's meeting with his agents. Have y'all seen it yet? I've heard it's pretty bad. They say that about all the FX shows like it, but I'm so into the story.

I watch, I would watch the animation of whatever happened to that story. It's crazy to me. I've watched everything you can about it, but it was interesting. I'd never seen the side of him meeting with the agents. And whether it's true or not, it reminded me of the TikTok era,

because all these agents are coming in and they're like, you're a first round draft pick, you're a superstar. And then one agent comes in and goes, you're gonna be lucky if we get you picked in the third. Oh wow. And he's like, I've already picked my guy, get out of here. He said, I will. But have they told you what's happening at the combine?

And he just kind of starts leaning in like, they didn't tell you you gotta answer questions for three hours, did they? They didn't tell you that all 52 teams get to ask you questions for three hours a piece? Did they tell you this? And he's going, he said, yeah, that's cause I'm other agents of line, so you call me when you realize

what's really going on. So he ends up picking that guy though. But it's like, that's happening in the TikTok world cause some agents going in with their mom and dad, sometimes he's TikTokers, right? And this agent is going, I can get y'all making $20,000 a show right now. We're gonna go right into theaters.

We're gonna do, do, do, do, do. And then they go meet another agent, another booking agent who's the right guy who goes, look, I think we need to go play this like 300 cap room circuit. Let's go do like 40 of these. Just get her familiar with standing on stages and looking at people in the eye.

We'll put her in theaters in the spring, slowly next spring, we'll ramp her up and we'll put her on an amphitheater tour in three years with somebody. And they're like, fuck you. And they go to the agent and puts them in front of 2000 people. And they go out and fucking blow it.

It sucks. And everybody reviews it and the internet and all their TikTok fans review it, start arguing with each other about how bad the show is. I see it happen to my business all the time. You know what I mean? And the ones who do it right are the ones who go out, Jessie Murph, the one I did Wild Ones with,

example of doing it right. She could have came out the gate selling thousands of tickets. Man, they sent that girl over to Australia. They sent her to the UK to do clubs. They sent, I think, I mean, they had her going and doing abroad shows before she was doing big domestic shows.

Like, let her go figure it out, you know, like it was. Get your chops over there, figure out, get comfortable. And that also shows how smart she was. Yeah. That she was in no rush. She was just like, yeah, I know, I know. What I love about Jessie is, she's like my little sister, she's so confident in what she does.

She's like, I'm here. I just needed somebody to see I can do this. I'm gonna do this forever. That's how she thinks. So she wasn't in no rush. You know what I mean? She really cut her teeth. And even then, just when she comes out with me at MSG,

after that night, I'm like, I tell my wife, I'm like, is that not a different person from even just who came out with me at Jingle Ball MSG last year? She was like a completely different person. I was like, just watching her, you know, she'll be in arenas probably next year if I had to guess. Who's the Amphitators?

Can I say just about his show without spoiling like what the show entails? One thing I'll say, and I was involved at the show, it's a stadium show in an arena, which I think the last time I made that comment was when we saw Travis Scott. But just in terms of using the whole room, where I'm like, you'll be at MetLife doing this same thing,

where there's multiple stages, there's the runway that you're on, and I'm like, this guy is using it. And it's not only that, we've seen enough shows at MSG now that we can compare. You could just play up against that end stage and you're just seeing a concert. You're blocking, meaning the positioning that he's going between songs and when he's moving around

These runways to the audience like the entire arena is change his production is changing things are lowering the the the skull Everything was just so perfectly planned that you're like this this guy's done this for four years And he wouldn't waste like to do that level of production you can't you can't cheat that like that's something where we can now keep on adding it you're probably part of the production you told us how many trucks you have coming into that but that show if anyone could see this on the road spectacular and not to give Let me give everything. No, no, no. If you think that was the way. You're all in store, we'll call whatever, but I didn't give anything. But you can tell who came out.

Yeah. No, MGK came out. Bust a bus. Bust a bus. No, it's MSG. Yeah, MSG. Bust a bus came out. Bust a bus came out.

And he can perform his ass off, dude. Listen, man, I have a rule that I don't watch a performer without stealing something. It's my personal rule. The good ones borrow, the great ones steal. That's my rule. If I come see you, stole something from you the other night, it's what I do. I'm coming, I'm watching, I'm stealing. And Buss was on my stage for four minutes and I stole something.

That's how good he was. Four minutes. Four minutes. His opening was so old school hip hop. It was like, so I set it up. There's this really, my show is really, I'm telling a story, but I'm telling two stories, right? But they're the same story in the end, the story of music,

the story of the therapy of music and how we all grew up listening to different kind of music. And I do this by like playing my music and then I'll throw covers in there to show the crowd like, oh, you don't think you know country music, but yeah. And then I have a trick where I'm like, you don't think you listen to hip hop, but I do it in the form of a story, which I'll tell you off camera. Cause I want you to punch it up. But, um, but I,

I set it up and I, and I, and I set the story, you heard me set the story up and I'm like, yeah, and I grew up listening, I'm in New York. So I'm playing to it. I'm like, I grew up listening to 50 cent, which I did. I grew up listening to Jay Z. I grew up listening to Big Hell. I grew up listening to shit like, and then Bus comes out. And it comes out, it's like one of them hip hop like, hold up, turn the music up, jelly roll. And every time the beat would break, he would just scream something else. Left side, oh, ba ba da, right side, oh.

And Hillman spliff. Yeah, oh yeah. And I'm watching him, dude, I'm standing behind them, having a, I got them on my legs now, a goose bump moment. And I'm like, that's why this dude is one of the greatest performers in hip hop history. Like, like. What song did he come out to?

Fuck, I don't remember the first record. It went in to break your neck. Y'all, y'all, y'all. Don't this hit make my people ballin'? Chomp, chomp. He did like a three minute, it was so hard to keep, he did a three minute medley and did all the hits. He did a medley of all the hits, yeah.

He did four, a four minute medley, and I think I heard a piece of every one of his hits, it was crazy. He even put in the pass the cavasi eight, but just the musical part as it interlude into another big. So it didn't even come in. It was just that,

there, there, there, there. Don't this hit make my people wanna. And it was just so, and I was just like, man, what a way to do it. Dude, we were broke when I first moved to LA. So we would just go see rappers at like the late night shows like Conan or Carson or whatever, Conan film like it's in New York.

But we saw him at like Carson Daly or something. The room is half full. He comes out, fucking destroys in a way. I've been to rap concerts. I haven't seen anything like this outside of Travis Scott. And I was, everybody, and then one girl walked out and she was like, man, I saw him at the House of Blues. Bottles were literally shaking on the bar

just from how much everybody was jumping. Like, he was, he's crazy performer. You have no clue how good he is. Has anyone come to the shows that like, it blew your mind? Like your he was, he's crazy performing. You have no clue how good he is. Has anyone come to the shows that like, it blew your mind, like your manager was like, by the way, Jelly, this person's gonna be in attendance tonight.

They were like, what the fuck? Ooh, that's a good one. I don't think nobody that I didn't see coming, like as far as like, you know, everybody I'd already kind of built a relationship with. So nobody kind of surprised me. But I'm still surprised anytime anybody comes to my show. You know what I'm saying?

Like I'm still like, oh, y'all know I do this. But I think anytime an athlete comes out is always a little different for us. Cause there's a lot of synergy with me and y'all, a lot of synergy with like anything on this side of art. But I don't have as much synergy on that side. You know what I mean? So like, I still get excited every time

Jimmy Butler posts one of my songs. Like the kid in me is just like, that's fucking crazy. He posts me like once a month. You know what I mean? But it still doesn't get any less exciting. You know, that kind of stuff. So like a couple of actors that are starting to kind of come around to what I do has been cool.

You know what I mean? But it's been pretty cool. I think even like Bus agreeing to come sing with me was really, really special. Even Post you gave like his own section of the show. Like he had his songs and the ones he has with you, right? Yeah, we did our song and then we did a, yeah, no, we did a country song here and then we did one of his.

I love Post, man. Post is another one I'd love to have on this couch. Dude, he'll do it. Yeah, absolutely. I'll put you on the text tonight. If you wanna do it, I'll put you on the text. Let's do that. I gotta talk about it being a cowboy fan. That's a done, that's the easiest connection I'll do it. I'll put y'all on the text tonight. If you wanna do it, I'll put you on the text. I gotta talk about it being a cowboy fan.

That's a done, that's the easiest connection I'll ever make. That dude is the most, people in Nashville go, Jelly Roll's one of the nicest guys ever, until they meet Post Malone. They're like, Jelly Roll's kind of an asshole. Post Malone is dead sweet of a dude. He was really sweet. When we did Crypto, he pulled up and he did a few songs.

It was pretty awesome. That's just his fucking personality, dude. That dude is fucking, he is like, he don't care is what makes him special. Like we're backstage and I still play like it's a bar. I know it's an arena, but man, me and Post didn't talk about what we were doing until 20 minutes before the show. We didn't have one conversation about it.

And I'm like, yo, what about like, let's do this cover? He's like, aw, I was like, first thing I said, when I see him in the hallway, I'm like, you cool with just fucking around? He's like, yeah, I was like, I'll see you later then. Right then I knew it wasn't nothing to worry about. I was like, I'm just gonna talk to this dude later. And I went, I was just like, yo, let's just go fuck around,

let's do this cover and do this. And I was like, if I end up wanting to keep you out for this record, will you stay? He was like, yeah, I'll stay. And sure enough, I was like, fuck, we gotta do this record. He said, it's the second biggest song in the world right now. Him and, that I had some help with him and Morgan. I was like, I can't have you at this show

and have some help with the second biggest song in the world right now, we don't do it. You know what I mean? He's like, you'll do Morgan's part? I was like, hell no. I was like, I'll butcher it. I'll do the hook and the bridge. He was like, all right, cool.

That's fire. Do you have any insight or opinion on the whole drama with Beyonce not getting nominated for any country awards? Man, this is a slippery slope too. And I'll hang here with you because I'm willing to with my friends. I think that the body of art was incredible. There's no denying that I always take all politics out of it

before we even talk about those. What did the art actually say? Was it good? Right? And the record was good. I don't know if it was Beyonce's best record. You know what I mean? It didn't make me feel the way even Renaissance made me feel

as a full body of work. But there was two or three songs on there that I thought could be country song of the year for sure. What she did with Jolene alone to me could have been, was just unbelievable. You know, and how much Dolly loved it. To me, that's the real tale, right? If Dolly loves it, it's a big deal.

So my argument starts with the art. My argument is, yeah, I think she should be nominated because the art was worthy of being nominated. The flip side of the argument, this isn't my argument, so I don't wanna get crucified or nailed at this cross, is that Nashville is a small community that is trying to keep country music as a boundary list genre.

And I know boundary list seems like, well, that's the opposite of not putting Beyonce in it, but meaning like, they never allowed country to get put in sub genres like rock did. So like they've kind of like country is one of the last genres left that you could just say there's a country music concert happening and a certain group of people

will still just show up. You know what I mean? Like it don't really matter. It's like, you know what I mean? Like you can say there's a pop concert happening and somebody's going, who's gonna be there? Got it. They can say, hey man, there's a country concert

happening down the street and people will kind of just blindly go based on the consistency of country music. That's being ran by the town of Nashville, my city, where I'm from, but this is being ran from the industry. It's like how all the record labels are in New York for hip hop, all of them are for pop in LA, or how it used to be, whatever it is, it's kind of everywhere.

But these people looked at it, the people who are the 20,000 registered, 30,000 registered voters, like the Grammys only has that many voters, or 60,000 or something, 100,000, whatever it is, right? These people that are in that, look, they are only really hip to what's happening in Nashville, right?

So it's not as malicious as one thinks. It's not like in my mind, from what I know of these people, the few, I don't know all 16,000 voters either, right? Or I'd fucking win more. But it's like, the ones I know are just more like, they just missed it. Because to them, it was more of like, it was a big TikTok moment.

The Texas Hold'em song, you know, where like in country music, there's three award shows, bare minimum, four really now, a year, that really matter, like to us as a community. Like the ACMs, which is the Academy of Country Music, the CMAs, which is the biggest night of country music, this is the one that's coming up,

it's the Country Music Association. I won the best new artist last year. That was the speech. That was awesome. That was that speech. That is the one though. That's like that's a really big deal I'm nominated for entertainer of the year this year. This is a huge huge honor. Congrats my guy. For some of these people, I think they just didn't see the visibility of the album Not that the album wasn't huge and it wasn't impactful or a great piece of art They just didn't see the visibility of it. She didn't tour it impactful or great piece of art, they just didn't see the visibility of it.

She didn't tour it. It wasn't like Morgan Wallen is like out here selling out three stadiums a night like Beyonce did for Renaissance. Now had the same campaign happened for Renaissance that happened with this album, I would have stood up and been like, this is wrong. You know what I mean?

But like to them, it was more of like an, this is, I'm not, I can't speak for all 16,000 and this isn't how I feel. Just what I've heard is like to them, it just felt like an eclectic art piece to try to broaden the horizons of the space. And they felt like that a nod that's even bigger, some people in this town feel like what's even bigger

than giving her a nod was that Shaboosie broke by being on her album and he's up for best new artist of the year and looking like a winner. Yeah. And he's having a huge year at Country Radio and a huge year at all the country award shows and like he's in Nashville in the community writing with Nashville writers.

But he's in bed in the culture. Yeah, he loves the culture of Nashville. Whereas Beyonce is a little bit more of an outsider. And I'm not saying, I don't think that makes it right that she wasn't nominated. I want to be clear about that. She's a colonizer, is what you're saying. Yeah, thank you Shultz, thank you Shultz.

No, I get that, she's more of a colonizer. Gentrifier, if you will. I only want to be the about that. Yeah, colonize it, is what you're saying. Yeah, thank you, Shultz, thank you, Shultz. No, I get that, it's just more of a colonizer. Gentrifier, if you will. I only want to be the guy who takes the wisdom. Just kind of using the art form, and yeah, I got you. A Kardashian. That you got it. Got it, got it. Fuck.

I got it, I got it. You do what I'm saying? I do, man. I got it, I got it. I really get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get the point you're trying to make. I wouldn't say any of those things.

I think she has a brilliant talent to it all. I love lemonade. But it is, you know, I get it. These are the tough things that you gotta work on. No, I get it, because it's the same in the film world and the academy. Nobody asks. Joe, go, go, go, go.

I'm saying it's the same thing that applies, like why people see like the nominations. There's 10,000 people in the academy, and like, I would guess how, what percentage of that's like over 60 that's just been focused on like, what Hollywood gives how, what percentage of that's like over 60, that's just been focused on like what Hollywood gives you, what wins at some of the film festivals. So you have to think who's coming from the outside.

I wasn't upset when I lost at the Grammys this year because I knew that to the Grammy audience, I was new. Right. A lot of these people didn't know I was a human until they see me on the bill. And then they see me at the best new artists, like performance, and then they see me in the building, and they felt my spirit, and now I feel like next year

I might have a better, I feel like every year I'm building a better chance towards it. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? There might have also been a perception where it's just like, if you're the size and success story, just the magnitude of Beyonce, and you pick any other genre to create music in,

you're also like one of the most talented human beings ever, you pick any other genre to create music in, you're also one of the most talented human beings ever, you pick any other genre, it's gonna be popular. If she decides to do techno, it's gonna be a number one. Whatever genre she decides to do it. So maybe there's that feeling where it's like, anybody that big that decides to do country is gonna have the number one album. They have to be embedded in the culture

and really invest time in the culture to be considered like one of these artists. And was it really impactful or was it just Beyonce dropping an album? Because she's at the size where she can't be avoided. Like if she decides to put out a rap album, number one. Like anything she puts out is number one. I've said this a minute then.

I was on record early about this. I'm glad it stood the test of time. I, of course, obviously, and there's gonna be Country music fans that are gonna be like, you wasn't welcome here. But it's like, I was so glad she was here. I welcomed her with open arms. Like I was like-

I think it's great for country. Same thing I felt about Post. Like you're telling me? Great for country. Do you know how hard it was to get people to like, especially in the world of music, people would just fly right over Nashville to Memphis. Just didn't even think about it.

Whether it was hip hop, blues, soul, anything, Memphis had all the culture. I mean, Nashville just, frog jumped over. Anything that was like country music in itself, country culture, like what Beyonce did for fucking cowboy hat sales is unheard of. No, no, listen, man, this is a true story. I went to the, there's a, right there on Sunset,

I wish I could remember his name, my boy Miles was with me that night, he's a cowboy for really rad horses, my dude that you thought looked like the crud guy. He went to this shop and it's like an old school, famous spot on Sunset that sells leather belts, leather hats, just like an old cowboy store right there on Sunset.

And he went in there and the guy says, he's known the guy forever, the guy's been in the store 20, 30 years or something. He goes, how's business? He goes, better than ever. He goes, really, what's happening? He said two things, Morgan Wallen and Beyonce. That's it.

Literally, that's exactly like, and this is an old man's perspective who probably, you know, doesn't know what's going on in the world, he just knows that a lot more motherfuckers have been in the last 12 months. Do you remember when Run DMC and Aerosmith did walk this way? Like that's it. Adidas. What's that? No and then Adidas sales. Adidas things went crazy but also just it's a great moment for hip-hop. It's also a great moment for rock but this is the time of rock was the dominant form and then you do a song with this new up-and-coming exciting

genre of music and it's a smash fucking hit. You don't think that that's gonna help her in DMC. Now I'm not saying that country isn't absolutely, it's probably the most popular right now, but when you take one of the most popular artists of all time and she decides to embrace the genre, that's great for the genre. Huge. And I think she should have been nominated for that a lot. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And that's why I say it, but I get, I know how Nashville looked, I think Nashville just missed it. I don't think it was malicious, that's what I will say. I think it was malicious in the midst, like, they missed it. Like, unjust. Yeah, like, y'all kinda, you know, I mean, but I don't think they missed it, like, I don't think it was a turner back to them, her thing.

I wonder if- And I think what she did and her impact is already being proven. Do you see like the politics of Nashville changing now that country become like the dominant art form? Like are people trying to like buy streams like within Nashville in a way that you haven't seen in the past?

Like has the business corrupted? No, no, no, I think it's what, it's just expanded. The business of Nashville just gotten bigger with artists like Beyonce, artists like Post. Now Post came to Nashville and did the whole Nashville thing. The city just, I think he spent that whole album, I spent two or three months there working on that record. But you just see the business of Nashville getting bigger, man. What I love about it is seeing country getting mainstream moments. Like when I was on Em's album, that was like huge for us as a genre.

Because like for so many years, we like, I'll never forget when TI got on Brandly Gilbert's Bottoms Up remix. And I was like, this was 2006. And I was like, this was 2006. And I was like, no fucking way. Oh, rap people, no country people, or country. You know what I mean? Like it was like, no way. So for that to have went from that to me being on Em's album,

Morgan being on Dirk's album, Morgan being on Money Bag Yo's record. You know what I'm saying? Like these kind of, these are the crossovers that are like, I think are super cool. Like whenever I see Laney go rock with a pop girl, you know what I'm saying? I'm just like kick ass, Laney, kick ass.

What's that wagon like in person? You asked me that the last time, two years later. He didn't answer. He tried to time it out. Yeah, bro, yeah. You gotta answer it again. We need to see that before the Ozempic gets in Nashville, bro, because that thing looked crazy. There was like a few images of it Yeah, we need to see that before the osempa gets in Nashville

Cuz that thing look crazy. There's like a few images of it where it just looks absurd Like to see her shit I'm a married man, obviously there's like sexual about it. The cheetah print pants or something like that. Oh, this guy is so funny. Did it happen to me though? Which one was she? Can you remind me? You know what I love about y'all and about pop culture is that's two years old and as soon as I brought up Lady Wilson's name, both of y'all were like,

what's up with the wagon? Talk to me about the thing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, she got new ones too. Nah, she don't got new ones. This is impossible. Miles has been having a question for an hour. What do you want to ask, Miles?

Upcoming country artists that you find right now that you're like, that's the next big one. Me and Mark this year listened to a lot of Red Clay Strays. Oh yeah. Oh, I met those guys. Fucking awesome. Where did you meet? They're at the cellar.

They're big comedy fans. Shut up. A lot of Red Clay Strays, man. They're awesome. And they're like, great, great hang. Yeah, yeah. Oh. This is really awesome. Yeah, they're at the cellar. They're big comedy fans. Shout out. Red Clay Strays, man. They're awesome. And they're like great, great hang. Yeah, yeah. Oh wow, that's awesome. They had a show here recently.

They're huge. I love the Red... They live in Alabama. Treaty Oak Revival's another one. If you like Red Clay Strays. I'm trying to see who to put on the Spotify. If you like the Red Clay Strays, you'll love Treaty Oak Revival.

They're real fun. Their shows are super fun and rowdy. It's kind of got that Red Clay Stray vibe. Teske Brothers? Um, I don't know. You don't know? No, you'll hit me. Oh, they're that Red Clay Stray vibe. Teske Brothers? Um, no. You'll hit me. Oh, they're awesome. Oh, you're gonna love that.

There's this kid, I wouldn't say he's new or unknown. What about Malone Black? Never heard of Malone Black. Malone Black is crazy. Are y'all fucking with me right now? No, Malone Black. I'm getting trolled. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Tell me about Malone Black. I'm getting trolled. Go ahead.

Tell me about Malone Black. Malone Black is one of the greatest country artists of all time. You like Zach Scott? You don't know about Malone Black? Who? Shut up, Dove. Malone Black dick in your mouth. Your pity who really fucking looked like you off right there. Compliment.

Anyway, I want to know who else, who else, who else? Zach Top. Zach Top. You heard his cute, I sleep like a baby. Oh yeah. I never show up late. No. It's Dylan Marlowe, that seems cool.

Who? Dylan Marlowe. I love Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, he's awesome. I love Dylan Marlowe. So listen, he's got a brother, there's two of them. It's Dylan Marlowe, that seems cool. Who? Dylan Marlowe. I love Dylan Marlowe. Yeah, he's awesome. I love Dylan Marlowe. So listen, he's got a brother. There's two of them. It's a Dylan and a Cameron.

Okay. And I always get in trouble for this and I double down on it every time because I'm a dumb ass. One of them is handsome and one of them can sing. So you answer me this question. Is Dylan Marlowe handsome? Tell the truth.

Yeah, he's handsome. I'd like to think like that. No, he can sing good. It sounds like he can sing good. It sounds like? Tell the truth. Yeah, he's handsome. I'd like to be quick. Nah, he can sing good. It sounds like he can sing good. It sounds like he can sing good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so he's not the handsome one. I haven't seen the brother yet.

Okay, no, no, no, he is the handsome one. You're right. Yeah. Now look up Cameron Marlowe. Damn, so he got looks and he can sing. The other one's just. And I don't know that they're kin to each other, by the way.

Oh, this guy, this guy's handsome. No, that's not. No, you see, that's the one. That's the one that can sing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm not know that they're kin to each other, by the way. Oh, this guy, this guy's handsome. No, that's not. No, you see, that's the one, that's the one I can see. Yeah, yeah. And I'm not saying, listen, and I'm not saying the other guy, first of all, I know them both and they're both awesome. Cameron and Dylan are great.

I do confuse them and I'm sorry. I smoke pot. But I can name both of their songs right now because he's got that, he is to the boys back home. That dude's right, he's a hit. He's, that kid's gonna be a hit. Dylan is, Cameron is the other Marlo

and he's just got a really big, Cameron's a good singer but this kid's got a different like, we're all singers and we know who the singers are. He's one of the singers. Does that make sense? Like, y'all, you know, like we know who the singers are. This dude is, yeah. Now, but Cameron's the singers are. This dude is. That's cool, they don't look alike. Now, but Cameron's got hits though.

That dude's a great writer, but follow this guy too. But follow both of Marlowe's, they're great. Jelly, I wanna say I'm so proud of you and I'm so grateful to have you as a friend and I just cannot wait to see you go even crazier and bigger and, you know, we're gonna be along for a ride, man. So we'll see you at Stagecoach, but we'll also see you, you know, fulfilling all your dreams. It's been awesome to be here to watch it. God bless you, my brother for a ride, man. So we'll see you at Stagecoach, but we'll also see you fulfilling all your dreams.

It's been awesome to be here to watch it. God bless you, my brother. Love you, brother. Thank y'all, boys. Jolio615.com, still got a few shows left. Album out now, beautifully broken, please stream, stream, stream. Love y'all.