Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - JiDion on Meeting Trump, Banned from NBA, & Jason Aldean Reaction

Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody and welcome to flagrant and today we are joined by quite possibly the most courageous man on the internet. No, not a white guy tying up a do-rag. We have the one, the only, Demarcus Cousins. Demarcus is in the building! I'm sorry baby. I'm not gonna lie Andrew, your head's kind of big. You might not be able to do a one on that one. Bro, you got to say

Starting point is 00:00:27 the N-word now. Nope, nope. Do not do that. Appreciate you guys having my brother. Thank you. We got Jideon in the building. All right?

Starting point is 00:00:35 Jideon, Jideon. Okay. You are, I have to like phrase this correctly. Okay. I've been watching a lot of your content. Appreciate you.

Starting point is 00:00:48 Okay. Obviously, I was aware of before we decided to have you on, I was aware of you and I was seeing like the bigger stuff. Then I go on the deep dive. Okay. There is a video that you did that we have up here. I have never seen someone more comfortable in an excruciatingly painful moment than when you put a sombrero on a Guatemalan pedophile while the police are interrogating him. Okay, okay, that's the thing. So I didn't know he was Hispanic when we got- Stop it!

Starting point is 00:01:23 I didn't, stop it! It was single- I don't see color. It was Cinco de Mayo on everything. Hold on. Hold on. There's a great moment where you go, it's Cinco de Mayo. And he goes, I'm Guatemalan.

Starting point is 00:01:36 They don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo. I figured that out. They were like, Guatemalans hate Mexicans. I was like, I didn't know. But on everything, because so Skeeter, he's the one that sets up all the predators. And so all I did was I rented the Airbnb. We decorated

Starting point is 00:01:54 like Cinco de Mayo. You know, I was expecting maybe like a white guy, Asian dude. You know, they were going to get some sombrero action. But when I saw his picture and I saw he was Hispanic, I was like, fuck. But then I was like, it would be racist not to do it. Exactly, because now you're changing your behavior just because he's Latino.

Starting point is 00:02:10 And I feel like the only reason I got away with it and then it gets canceled. It's because he's a pedophile? It's because he's a pedophile, yeah. Turns out you can be racist to pedophiles. But there was some comments that would be like, yeah, I get that he's a pedophile and everything, but this is really fucked up. Bro, you gotta show the part.

Starting point is 00:02:27 First of all, Jinyan walks out in a taco hat, okay? But I just want to put together the context. It was Cinco de Mayo. Okay. Fair enough. That clean. The guy thought he was meeting a five-year-old. That's the Cinco.

Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the guy comes to the house to meet a 14-year-old girl. And you guys hired a 19-year-old that looks like a 14-year-old. I didn't even hire her. I put on my story. I said. Yeah, what did you put on your story? I said, I need a young-looking girl that's over the age of 18.

Starting point is 00:02:55 Wild. Bro, my comments were flaming me. They were like, nigga, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? And she had hit me up, and I flew her and her boyfriend out. So you decided that she looked young enough? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:07 It was weird because I was like, how do you do that? I said, can you send me some pictures of you with no makeup on? No. I was like, no. Yeah, you got to get a casting director for this. Yeah, you got to outsource that. You can't be the one. Can we just play this for one second?

Starting point is 00:03:22 You say, we don't really speak Spanish here now, no, that's okay Abby's in good to Maya to you a little thick to I'm just thinking thumbnail mode you know like it's like you gotta make sure you get a thumbnail too

Starting point is 00:03:50 because if you don't have a good thumbnail then no one's gonna click on it but I think my favorite part you're not thinking he's gonna bang

Starting point is 00:03:55 a 14 year old into a set 10 with a taco hat it's so crazy because bro he stayed outside for like 10 minutes and the decoy

Starting point is 00:04:03 had to like she was like come on up come on up and come on up. And it's crazy because Brody's English was perfect. Until? Until we came out. And then all of a sudden it was, no habla ingles.

Starting point is 00:04:16 And then I went to Siri, I said, hey Siri, how do you say you're fucked in Spanish? And then Siri said it. And then my friend Ski, he was like, did you understand that? And the guy said, si. How are you not nervous, though? Like, this guy's life is over. Oh, definitely.

Starting point is 00:04:32 Right? It's done. How are you not nervous that he might try to stab you? Like, in that moment, and this is consistent with a lot of your pranks, there are moments where, like,

Starting point is 00:04:41 this person is incredibly embarrassed and maybe, or yelling at you, screaming at you. I even Googled. Have you been attacked before? You have like one kind of, but not really. I'm not going to lie. Like, I'm not really like a threatening person. But I guess like, you know, since Loki, I'm a big body. Like people second, they like second guess themselves. They're like, damn, he is a big body. But it's like I like a big-ass teddy bear because I have other friends.

Starting point is 00:05:07 They're small white guys, and they do what I do. And they get smoked. Oh, man, they get ragdolled. I be seeing them get put in fucking headlocks and thrown around, and I'm just like, damn. But yeah, we've had close calls and stuff, but for the most part, I try to keep the joke on me. How's the joke on you and that one?

Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, no, the joke was on him. It's actually a good idea. Arrest pedophiles and prank them. Yeah. Tell me one way to one-up Chris Hansen. That's making sense. I don't even see it as a prank. It's just like a con.

Starting point is 00:05:40 At the end of the day, it's just like getting scum off the streets. I want to keep on doing them. I just don't want it to be like oversaturated but those those are my favorite videos that's your problem is you don't want to arrest

Starting point is 00:05:50 too many pedophiles I'd like to get these pedophiles off the streets but the views are low I mean it's sad but like YouTube like you know

Starting point is 00:05:59 you would think this was something that you like oh yeah you're doing a great thing but YouTube they'd be taking it off like the hoops I had to go through

Starting point is 00:06:06 to get that video posted was ridiculous. Really? Yeah. And, like, there was this one video. I don't know if you guys ever seen the Asian dude

Starting point is 00:06:12 that got caught? It was this Asian dude, and the guy said, why are you coming here to meet my 14-year-old brother? And he's like, I'm not. I'm here because

Starting point is 00:06:20 my anus hole, I'm stuffed up. I haven't pooped in, like, two weeks. What? And it was some Asian, small Asian dude. And he was like high on meth. And he runs out and he's scared.

Starting point is 00:06:31 And I'm not going to lie, Zoki kind of crazy. But there was a cashier there. And he was Asian. And he was defending the other guy. But he didn't really know what was going on. And he was stopping the guy that was filming. And the guy was like, no, he's a pedophile. And Brody runs outside.

Starting point is 00:06:44 He goes in his car. He backs up, and he hits a tree. And his car just, like, flips. Hold on. Are you saying the Asian guy? Wait, is that what you're saying? Whose prank is this on? This was the craziest prank.

Starting point is 00:07:01 Be honest. When you saw that, were you like, well, I got a double today? Bro, I reacted to this well, I got a double today. Bro, I was fucking... I reacted to this one, but I was crying. It was so funny. It was so funny. On my second channel, I love reacting to prank catches. It's fucked up, but it's low-key the funniest thing.

Starting point is 00:07:19 Did you see the Chris Hansen pizza one? Oh, yeah. I mean, that's... But you know what? You need to watch Skeeter Jean. His shit... What'd you call him? Chris Blackson?

Starting point is 00:07:29 Bro, he's hilarious, bro. Every time we do a preg catch, I'm covering my face. I never break character, but... Why? He's so... You didn't see in the video? The guy said,

Starting point is 00:07:39 oh, I'm Guatemalan. And he said, well, maybe after this you'll go to Guantanamo Bay. He just says one-liners like that, like just so sly. Yeah, yeah. And like that's just my type of sense of humor. I love it.

Starting point is 00:07:50 The only video I saw you break and you had to acknowledge it, it was so good, was Dr. Umar Johnson. Dr. Umar Johnson? Who's my dream guest. Really? That was the only video I saw. Yo, Dr. Umar, man, give me my $500 back, man. Tell the story. Tell the only video I saw. Yo, Dr. Umar, man, give me my $500 back, man. Tell the story.

Starting point is 00:08:05 Tell the story of the 500. So I have this series called Giving Strangers the N-Word Pass. And I have three volumes. And so let's play that today. Well, I mean, you guys already got it. And I was like, damn, it would be hilarious to get Dr. Umar to, like, react to it and just get his reaction, you know. It's like, this is a level three coon. This is a level three coon.

Starting point is 00:08:34 This is because you always have pizza every time. And so to get an interview from him, you have to, like, donate $500 to his school. So I PayPal him and everything. We're emailing to set it up, and then he just ghosted me. And I'm like, yo, Dr. Umar, Dr. Umar. I was like, you really gonna do this to a brother? And so I was like, damn, you know what?

Starting point is 00:08:53 I was like, I might as well just troll him. So he was in Jacksonville, so we flew to Jacksonville. I got a dashiki, and we sit through his whole seminar. And it's a show. He's up there doing bits, right? And you posted five minutes of the seminar. I'm not going to lie. He was looking spitting.

Starting point is 00:09:14 Brody converted you. Brody's funny, but he'd be spitting sometimes. And halfway through, I was like, because I really didn't know. I thought I was just going to confront him. But then I was like, damn, it would be funny if I show him my white girlfriend. So I asked one of my friends, I was like, yo, send me a picture of you that you look the whitest in. And she sent it to me. And so whenever I went up, I was like, yo, Dr. Umar, this is my girl.

Starting point is 00:09:36 And he's like, oh, he's a snow bunny lover. Get him out of here. And like, just trolling him. But Dr. Umar, please give me my 500 back. I want to do a video where I went to one of his seminars and I bring like 100 white people and just like have us all sit and just listen.

Starting point is 00:09:50 Into Sheiky's? Oh, that would be dope. Is he crushing? Like, does it feel like stand-up when you're watching him? Oh, bro, he's hilarious. But the thing is, though, is like he's not trying to be funny.

Starting point is 00:10:02 Yeah. He's just talking like, my fans, they were just in his IG live just saying, give Gideon his $500 back. He's like, we got grown men in here on Gideon's neck sack. Get off Gideon's neck sack! And so, when people be on my ass on Twitter,

Starting point is 00:10:19 I just, you get that soundbite, and I just put it under their thing. I think you got your $500 worth. Oh, definitely, definitely. You got a seminar, you got your $500 worth. Oh, definitely. You got a seminar. You got a sound bite. But it's a principle, you know? It's a principle.

Starting point is 00:10:31 There's a – I was watching the WNBA prank, and – That was a wild one. Did you feel bad at all? So the crazy thing about it is I went to three games. That was the crazy thing about it is I went to three games. That was the funniest thing. The fact that when you get kicked out of the Minnesota one and then you call Cat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cat's my boy.

Starting point is 00:10:52 And Cat backs him. He's like, nah, he's good. Let him go back in there to prank the female team. See, I thought Cat had more pull. He's the franchise player. I was like, yo, Cat, you can't tell security. But, you know, it was the NBA. But we actually went to a Phoenix game

Starting point is 00:11:05 where Brittany Griner, and I'm looking at the asshole because I had a shirt with Vladimir Putin, and then in the back he had a weed symbol. I was at their game and I was going to do it there, but I genuinely had a really good time.

Starting point is 00:11:21 I genuinely just had a great time and I was just thinking, I told Vito, my filmer, I was like, yeah, man, I can't I genuinely just had a great time, and I was just thinking, I told Vito, my filmer, I was like, yeah, man, I can't do it. And so I pussied out, and I was thinking about, like, not doing it.

Starting point is 00:11:31 And so one of my friends, Canels, he has this one idea that I've been wanting to do, so I was like, yo, man, do you want to trade ideas? And I told him my idea about, you know, taking a nap at a WNBA game,

Starting point is 00:11:42 and he sounded, like, super excited about it, and I was like, damn, like, he sounds like he really wants this one. Might be a banger. Might be a banger. So I was like, you know what? I'm going to do it.

Starting point is 00:11:51 And so we did it. And I did feel bad, but like, I didn't, I thought that people were, the thing that like kind of got me though, is like people made it so much more political than it really needed to be. What do you mean political? Bro, it was so many right-wing people using it as commentary of all wokeness and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:12:13 And I was like, bro. And then there was so many left people and stuff like that just calling me misogynistic and everything. And it's like, just because you're trolling a little bit doesn't mean you hate women. Right. So it was just like both sides. But then again, like, you know, I should have expected it. But it was an asshole thing to do. Is there any prank that you didn't put out because you're like, I feel bad about this?

Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, I did one. We still got it in the vote. So it was Valentine's Day. And I flew this girl out. She does pranks. And we would go to like bars or restaurants. And I see a guy with his girl. And I would go up and I'll go up and be like yo man that's a nice shirt bro like what's your name oh my name's jared i'll be like oh you have a nice day jared and then i'll go up to the girl and i'll be like his name is jared

Starting point is 00:12:56 and then she'll come up and she'll be like jared how you doing i thought you weren't gonna be out and then like. Oh, fuck. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, I got to see this one. Do you have it on your phone? A little bit of it? I don't have it on my phone. It's on the vote.

Starting point is 00:13:19 But that one, I was like, damn. But we got to share that with all the couples and everything. What happened? What happened? What was the worst? Oh, man, bro. I think the worst one, I was like, damn. But we got it straightened out with all the couples and everything. What happened? Oh, man, bro. I think the worst one, it was this Mexican couple. Like, she was. She was like, what, 14? She was pissed.

Starting point is 00:13:37 She was like, she was telling the girl, you can go now. You can go. And, like, you just see Brody, like, he's just, like, talking to her and stuff. And I came up. I was like, yo, it was just a prank. Everything is all good. And then there was this black couple. We did it, too It was just fine cuz she's a white girl. It's a Like she was just like look it's bad, but we got We got shit with all the couples and everything, and they're good. Do you offer to cover their dinner or something?

Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, definitely. Like, I made it up to them and stuff. What do you mean you made it up to them? Like, I would like. I feel like you didn't offer to pay. I feel like you just agreed to them. I gave them like $600 just so they could like just go out and do something.

Starting point is 00:14:25 And then the black couple, I bought them like two rounds on me and stuff. Why are you low-boring a black couple? Yo, you really low-boring a white couple, yo. Go 350. They argued way less than them. So it's depending on their reaction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'll lie down.

Starting point is 00:14:41 You know what? I'm going to keep that one in the vault. Bro. But why? Have you made it good with all the couples? Why don't you put it down? Yeah, you know what? I'm going to keep that one in the vault. Bro. But why? Have you made it good with all the couples? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Bro, because I hate telling people that it's a prank. So we did this one where I put on my story that I was like, yo, I need someone's Uber account.

Starting point is 00:15:01 And someone came through and they gave me their car and they gave me their Uber account. And I sent them GoPros and everything. So you were the driver. I was the driver. And I got these Heinekens, but they were 0% alcohol account. And I set up GoPros and everything. So you were the driver. I was the driver. And I got these Heinekens, but they were 0% alcohol. Yeah, I saw those. And I would pick up people. And I was, like, drinking the Heinekens while I was driving. I had these weird-ass voice memos.

Starting point is 00:15:17 And I was just doing, like, the weirdest shit. And I had, like, this girl call me and pretend that she was cheating on me while the passenger in the back is just listening to everything. And all those pranks, I never told any of them that it was a prank. Like every time they got out,

Starting point is 00:15:32 like I didn't tell anybody because I just feel like it's way funnier. Like they're going to be like, bro, you won't believe what happened when I was in my Uber and stuff like that. You know, it's like a cool story.

Starting point is 00:15:41 And then they see the video, they see the video. But like I wanted to just be something where it's just like, oh man, that was crazy. Yeah, the long game. Yeah. Guys, tour announcements, Greater Toronto Area. Tickets are

Starting point is 00:15:53 officially on sale for Niagara Falls, Ontario. Okay, Fallsview Casino, we are coming the 22nd of September. Then the 23rd of September, we're coming to Windsor, Ontario. That's right, the Coliseum at Caesars, pull up. And Dublin, Ireland. We are coming to the Three Arena, October 12th. And of course, Calgary, the Great Outdoors Fest. I'll be performing there

Starting point is 00:16:20 August 27th. Get the tickets for all those shows at TheAndrewSchultz.com. I cannot wait for you guys to see this. Peace. Also, guys, we need to announce some tour dates. First of all, I'm going to be doing a residency in New York City. I keep getting hit up by people in New York on the streets saying,

Starting point is 00:16:37 when are you doing a show here? I'm going to run my special four times, August 7th, 14th, 21st, and 28th at New York Comedy Club. So hurry up and buy tickets to that because it is a small club and tickets will sell out. Also, August 2nd, next week, I'm going to be in Omaha, Nebraska. And then the next day, I'm going to be in Des Moines, Iowa. The Bumass Cities Tour, trucks on. And I say trucks because there will be a lot of them there. Also, August 23rd, I'm going to be in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Starting point is 00:17:06 Naptown, I'm coming to see you. I'm pretty sure it's called Naptown. Also, August 24th, I'm going to be in Louisville, Kentucky. Please don't be that racist toward me. Anyway, you can get your tickets for those dates and more at akashsingh.com. Now let's get back to the show.

Starting point is 00:17:19 There's this guy, I forget his name, it was Andrew Zimmerman. I probably told this story in a pod before. But do you've heard of him? He's like man versus food guy name, it was Andrew Zimmerman. I probably told this story in a pod before. But do you remember him? He was like man versus food guy. I only know George Zimmerman.

Starting point is 00:17:29 Probably related. And he did this food show where he found out we're all like, I think he would have to eat this crazy amount of food. It doesn't matter. He travels around the country. And we saw him when we were recording a podcast in our old, old studio. And I was like, dude, I've watched your show. You're the man. Do you have any recommendations for places to go podcast in like our old, old studio. And I was like, dude, I've watched your show. You're the man. Like, do you have any recommendations for like places to go eat in New York?

Starting point is 00:17:48 Right? Yeah. And he goes, I got three places for you. And he goes, you go to this one place called La Loma or something like that. And then you ask for the salted lamb or something like this. And he goes, now, if that doesn't work out, you can go to Five Guys. But go to the Five Guys on 14th Street and ask for the off-menu sushi, right? And he goes, now, if that doesn't work out, go to the Navy Yards or something like that, and then go through all the storage containers, and then there's a little Mexican restaurant on the storage container.

Starting point is 00:18:18 Like, oh, but he said this. One of them, you had to bring a banana. Yeah, yeah, he goes, but if you go to the Five Guys, you need to bring them a banana in order to order from the off-menu sushi, right? You're doing a banana? The Five Guys? Me and three boys at fucking 12 p.m. buy bananas at a bodega, right? We first go to the La Lona one, right? We're like, we want the off-menu salted lamb.

Starting point is 00:18:38 And they're like, we're a vegan restaurant. There's no, and we're like, yeah, the off-menu. And he goes, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. So we're like, oh, that's kind of weird. All right, maybe he messed it up. Then we go to a bodega. Three of us buy bananas at 12 at night. It looks like some super gay shit is about to go down.

Starting point is 00:18:51 We're walking down the street with bananas. We walk into Five Guys, right? Three guys, bananas, and Five Guys. And the waiter comes up and I go, we'll have the off menu sushi. He goes, I don't know what you're talking about. I go, here you go. And I hand him a banana. Like, that's supposed to be like the, oh, yeah, this is going down.

Starting point is 00:19:07 Here you go. Here's the sushi. And the guy takes the banana and goes, thanks, man, but I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I'm like, you tell me there's no sushi if I bring a banana? And he's like, no, there's no fucking sushi. I've never spoken to him again. He's never talked about it again. He just pranked me for the sake of pranking me.

Starting point is 00:19:24 And that is so lucky that Five Guys employee was white. If it was a black dude, he'd just hand him a banana. This will convince you. Why would you go to a Five Guys for sushi? That was why it was such a good it was off menu, bro. No, Five Napkins, not Five Guys.

Starting point is 00:19:40 Five Napkins. Way more sense. And then, oh, I never went to the last spot, and apparently that one's real. God damn it. Yeah, I know. That's hilarious. I was like the most purest form of a prank. I wouldn't be able to do that.

Starting point is 00:19:51 I would need to follow the person, see it happen, and get that satisfaction because I'm used to stand-up. It's like say the joke and get the response. But to do it knowing that that's going to happen and then never reconnect with that person? Yeah. Diabolic. Or the fact that you're on a major podcast and you're going to talk about it and he's like, yeah, that's what's good.

Starting point is 00:20:08 Maybe that's it. He just got his laugh right there. Four years. Like there are people in your Uber that just found out that you were drinking fake Heinekens. Yeah. Hey, man.

Starting point is 00:20:17 I don't fuck with that drinking and driving. You're safe. Who's the best people? That makes me think you drink and drive. Super guilty. Who's the best people to prank? me think you drink and drive. Super guilty. Who's the best people to prank? Like, when you do pranks, are you trying to get a bunch of different, like, ethnic groups and cultures and stuff? You know how David

Starting point is 00:20:31 Blaine would only do the magic to black people because they react the craziest? If you ever watch street magic, it's only to black people. This is, I think Aziz had a bit about this, but it's like, it is a known thing. Like, all street magic is to black people. You can even see, this, but it's like, it is a known thing. Like all street magic is to black people. You can even see like black athletes too still believe magic is real a little bit.

Starting point is 00:20:51 Whoa, whoa. I'm being honest. Why are you saying it like that? I'm being honest. They react. The black athletes are still slow. They don't know. They say they're slow, but they believe in magic.

Starting point is 00:21:00 They go crazy, bro. They go crazy for it. I mean, watch. You find me a street magician in America that is going up to white people. Boo. They just don't do it. I think the reaction is just more muted, right? Exactly.

Starting point is 00:21:12 I remember watching David Blaine's first thing. I thought it was an Ace of Spades. Yeah. Oh, you got my card. Great job. I remember watching David Blaine's first special that he put on ABC or whatever, and he pranks the Dallas Cowboys back when they were good. I didn't see Emma Smith celebrate that hard when he won a Super Bowl. So does that happen with pranks?

Starting point is 00:21:28 Is there a metric for that? Nah, nah. I really wouldn't even consider what I do really like just pranks because the camera would be right there. Like, half the time people just don't see it because I'll just be talking about bullshit. And then they'll, like, see the video and they'll be like, oh, I didn't even know I was on camera, da-da-da-da-da. But what I love the most is whenever, because sometimes I'll have beef with someone on the video,

Starting point is 00:21:52 and then I rekindle with them, and then we do something cool. It's just multiple people, but that's what I like the most. What was the best version of that? The best version? There was this dude in the Minnesota Mall of America. The art one?

Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. Oh, did you do something with him? And I was fucking with this Irish drawing dude. Yeah, that's that. And then we just became cool. And then I came back and we did an art off. And I think it's IG's Dirty Art Hole. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:23 And yeah, that stuff, that's the funnest. He wanted to smoke, bro. He did. He was ready. He was ready. Did you get nervous at all? Oh, yeah. Like, bro, I'm not going to lie.

Starting point is 00:22:33 Like, bro, if someone wants to swing on me, they have every right to. Like, I'm going to just keep it a buck. I'm not going to be that guy like, bro, why'd you hit me? Like, it's like I'm fucking with you. Yeah. Like, I totally understand. Bro, you just invited all the smokers. Now they're like, oh, shit, I can hook off on GD. I can get my shit up. hit me like it's like i'm fucking with you like yeah like i totally understand bro you invited all the smokers yeah now they're like oh shit i can hook off on jenny i get my shit up

Starting point is 00:22:49 yeah they might hit you preemptively like i knew you were gonna do something so i had to swing on no yeah it'd be funny because now like i'll be walking in the store just chilling and they'd be like nah man you coming here to fuck with us i'm'm just like, nah, man, I'm just shopping, bro. That's interesting. If you become too famous to do the pranks, that's what happened to Tom Green. Do you remember Tom Green? Yeah. Tom Green. I see you as like our, the younger generation's version of the, what is it, the provocateurs, right? Like every generation has like a provocateur.

Starting point is 00:23:23 Sacha Baron Cohen. Sacha was it for a while.. Sasha was it for a while. Tom Green was it for a while. And this has gone, you know, on every decade has this version. I'm not familiar.

Starting point is 00:23:31 You don't know who Tom Green is. Buddy, we're old. I only know him when we were kids. You should look into Tom Green. Isn't he the one that made The Fault in Our Stars? No.

Starting point is 00:23:39 I mean, Hank Green. Oh, Hank Green. Who did it be further from whoever that is? John Green. John Green. He's like, I've read that book. Isn't he an NBA player? Like, that's Jalen Green, bro. Oh, Hank Green. Who did it be further from whoever that is? John Green. John Green. He's like, I've read that book.

Starting point is 00:23:47 Isn't he an NBA player? Like, that's Jalen Green, bro. You are. Yo, Tom Green, legend, had an MTV show, and he would just prank his parents, prank everybody's family, and then he got so famous here, he couldn't do it, so he just pranked Japan. Really? And he just went to Japan, and they didn't know who he was, so he could get away with all the shit.

Starting point is 00:24:04 You see, I want to go to Japan and I just want to wear an NBA jersey and wear a beard, like a bigger beard and just stand around and just have them all think I'm a fucking basketball player. James Harden. Yeah. I want to go to Japan so bad.

Starting point is 00:24:20 I love doing cultural stuff. We went to Paris and we spent the night under the catacombs. We went to the illegal part, and we had this dude. He just gave us a tour all around it, and we saw Nazi bunkers. You'll see stuff that was in the 1900s. Then you'll see stuff all the way in the 1600s. Whoa.

Starting point is 00:24:39 And then there was just skulls. Yeah. You spent the night? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We spent the entire night down there. That is wild. I think they're the night? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We spent the entire night down there. That is wild. I think they're called cataphiles or something like that.

Starting point is 00:24:50 But they preserve it down there. Yeah. And they take care of it. And they're really cool people. They're really cool people. And then the next day, we went to the Louvre and I put a picture of myself

Starting point is 00:25:02 of the Mona Lisa right next to the Mona Lisa. And then I got arrested. And Paris jail, I'm not gonna lie, Paris jail is way better than American jail. Oh, so you got locked up? Locked up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For how long? Like, uh, 24 hours, yeah. Light. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:19 Light. I feel like out of all of them, I was the most anxious about that because I was like, damn, am I gonna be in a Brittany Griner situation? Like, fucking just locked up. But the cops are really cool, though. When I got arrested, it was these cops in rollerblades. You got arrested by a rollerblade cop in France?

Starting point is 00:25:37 Bro, they had vests, fucking ARs. But yeah, rollerblades. Can you imagine shooting and then you're rolling back? Literally, literally. It was so intimidating at first until you seen the rollerblades. Can you imagine shooting and then you're rolling back? Literally, literally. It was so intimidating at first until you see the rollerblades. But the guy, when I was in the station, he came up to me and he was like, oh, I liked your video. And I was like, oh, which one? He was like the do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

Starting point is 00:26:01 I was like, what? He's like the do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do niggas you just show up and say niggas in Paris the white guy the white guy I was just like yeah he thought you made the song he was like dude you nailed it

Starting point is 00:26:32 that's the nicest literally that's the nicest a white cop has ever said that word to a black guy I wasn't offended at all I was just like why is French Joe better

Starting point is 00:26:40 oh man they put me in a cell by myself and the food was way better yeah Yeah, and um Huh French French food. Yeah, it was like some like stew. It was really good. Yeah, it was really really good That's me all you had in Paris. Mm-hmm. Oh man, the food was horrible Paris food is horrible. You were in jail. What are you talking about?

Starting point is 00:27:00 It's fucking not. Bro, you were in jail. What are you talking about? You can't say it's not. You guys don't get food. They don't get food. That sounds racist. Out of all the countries I've been to, you and you don't get food.

Starting point is 00:27:08 Horrible. Where'd you go? Where'd you go to eat? Man, we just went to different restaurants and stuff, but it's just not good in Europe, really. At least the UK. Oh, the UK's even worse. This is Texas, bro.

Starting point is 00:27:18 He's too Texan, dude. I think it's people from Texas don't understand food. They don't have any grits. Like, what even is that? Yeah. You're too Houston. Seasoning. We use seasoning down there. I love that southern. That Texas don't understand food. They don't have any grits. Like, what even is that? You know what I mean? You're too Houston. Seasoning. We use seasoning down there.

Starting point is 00:27:26 Oh, that southern, that southern, that soul food. You be fucking that soul food? Yeah, of course. No, you don't. No, I don't. No. It's not. It's not.

Starting point is 00:27:38 If I eat soul food, I got to nap two hours before the show. Every time we go down south and we have like a soul food brunch. It takes your soul. It literally takes the soul. Two hour nap before the show if I'm going to down south and we have like a soul food brunch. It takes your soul. It literally takes the soul. Two hour nap before the show if I'm gonna make it happen. Yeah. Alright, so. I can ask you a question. I've been listening. Why pranks? I've heard a few interviews of you and

Starting point is 00:27:53 I haven't heard that. Because you're such a sweet guy. You always say I want the joke to be on me. And you do a good job of, if the joke isn't on you, making it right with the person. But pranking is not necessarily on you. So I'm wondering how does thising is not necessarily on you it's so i'm wondering how like this sweet guy coming to let me terrorize people and then now i'm learning not even tell them half the time man i just be thinking of i guess it's kind of like you guys

Starting point is 00:28:17 are comedians just like you guys would just be thinking of bits in your head yeah and it's just like i just be thinking of stuff and i'm just like it's more like stuff that you would say to your friends like damn that would be funny but like i'm like you're doing yeah let's let's do it hmm what was childhood like childhood oh i was very uh i was very like sheltered and like i got bullied a lot when i was like in middle school really yeah yeah how many brothers sisters i have an older brother but like he's like 17 years older than me so i was like an only child only child you were an only child. You had to occupy your time, occupy your mind. Yeah. And a lot of friends when you were younger?

Starting point is 00:28:50 Not until like in the high school, but like middle school. You guys want to see what I used to look like in middle school? Yeah. I'd love to. Oh, man. We'll show you what Akash looked like, too. It's the same picture. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:02 There's no way it's worse than mine. So that was me. That was me in middle school. Yeah, There's no way it's worse than mine. So that was me. Wow. That was me in middle school. Yeah, you look like a baby mama, bro. That's crazy. Bro, whose auntie is this, bro? That is wild. You know what's crazy?

Starting point is 00:29:15 That. I show my mom. That is what's crazy. I show my mom that, and she say, you look like an F. Like, she just. Like, F in the chat? And you posted that in 2013. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Like, this wasn't, like, a throwback post. You posted that at the time. Yeah, yeah. I was like, bro, this one's going to hit. You didn't get any play off that? Oh, man, bro, I got so much pussy, man. I'm still drowning in it. Okay, so what happened?

Starting point is 00:29:43 You were kind of, like, lonely lonely kid or you were fine being by yourself? Nah man, like I was that type of kid where it was like I would join a group but like I would be really insecure that like I would get kicked out the group so like I would like really try to like stay in and fit in. You were trying too hard kind of? Not really trying too hard but like I was just always afraid that like oh my gosh you know they're going to leave and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:30:05 And that's usually what happened. And, like, I was just, like, really insecure as a kid. And then, like, I just kind of, like, learned just to, like, really just love myself and really just, like, do me. And when I started doing me, that's when I just, like, made friends and I started being way happier and stuff like that. Yeah. There's a, yeah, because you have an incredible independence. It doesn't seem like your actions are motivated by the appreciation or validation of a singular group.

Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. So it's like I think you develop that from time alone. Time alone learning how to deal with yourself and learning how to appreciate yourself because a lot of people are afraid to do some of the things you do because they're like, uh-oh, will this group hate me? Will this group think that I'm a bad person? You also have a racial component.

Starting point is 00:30:52 It might be different generationally, but is this okay to do? Am I selling out if I do this? If I go to the most racist town in America and some of them are nice to me, what will black people think of me? You create, from the outside, it seems like you create as Gideon the person first. Not without a responsibility to anybody else but you and what you authentically want to do. I look at it as like, you know, I'm posting for my friends. It's like, yo, guys, bro, look what I just did.

Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. And, like, that's how I like to look at it. And it's just, it's crazy because it's just, like, the people I meet, like, bro, like, it was like, I would, you ever look at people, it's like, oh crazy because this is like the people i meet like bro like it was like i would you ever look at people it's like oh they they know who i am like you probably like look at people like yeah he definitely knows who i am or something like that and then it's like oh no he didn't and then it'd be someone random some old dude come up with like jitian and then now like i've been having like a lot of girls come up to me lately and uh my girl my girl demographic has been growing a lot too and it's just like

Starting point is 00:31:45 man like you know it's just love and like I really appreciate my followers because it's just I get to do what I love

Starting point is 00:31:52 and make money off of it with the girls with the girls since you've been promoting this raw dogging thing and do you ever have a situation where like

Starting point is 00:31:59 they expect it to be raw and you don't deliver on that or you always raw dog I don't get on that? Or are you always raw dog? I don't get pussy, bro. Man, stop, bro. No, bro. Yo, stop.

Starting point is 00:32:09 That's a man who gets pussy, right? No, stop. Yeah. They don't show me no love. Klopp don't get you pussy no more. No more. There was a time. Never.

Starting point is 00:32:18 I thought it was a time. Hold on. So you really, you want us to believe that you're not getting any pussy out there? No, I'd be chilling. I'd really just be chilling. What does that even mean, though? What is that sentence? I don't leave the house.

Starting point is 00:32:29 Oh, you need to leave the house. You just fly. Is that how famous people do it? They run on the streets to get some pussy? No. Pussy flies in. I cannot believe that you're not getting pussy. I'd really just be chilling.

Starting point is 00:32:41 I just record my videos. I hate you. I hate you. I'm chilling, bro. This guy's drowning in pussy. And, I just, before my video. I hate you. I hate you. I just be chilling, bro. This guy's drowning in pussy. And you know it. And it's raw, isn't it? How many abortions you got under your belt?

Starting point is 00:32:51 Bro. Make that a video, bro. Come on. Yeah, yeah. That's the prick. The doctor goes in, psych. You're having it. He's counting.

Starting point is 00:33:04 He's counting. Nah, but the new hairline had to help those hairline situations that's why they came through bro it's crazy like i did not think it was gonna get that big like i know because it's just like a forehead this is like an inside joke with me and my followers. Like, damn, you lost your hair. Because a lot of people, especially with me being 22, they'll be like, damn. It's the end of the world, but I just made the most out of it and just kind of grabbed my brand around it. And so when I seen Brody pop up on my Instagram Reels and I hit him up. I was like, bro, let's do this.

Starting point is 00:33:45 And I just wanted to do a stream. And then, like, bro, it just went crazy. And I remember I went to the UK, like, two weeks after, and people were just running up to me. Julian, Julian, show us a new hairline. Show us a new hairline, mate. And I was just like, bro, like, I love my UK fan base. Oh, man, the UK, they rock hard for me.

Starting point is 00:34:01 I fuck with the UK heavy. And them motherfuckers are menaces. Because I don't know if you know this, but, like, in America, they rock hard for me. I fuck with the UK heavy. And them motherfuckers are menaces. Because I don't know if you know this, but in America, it's like someone comes to you, like, yo, can I get a picture? And they'll just take their picture, and they'll be like, thanks. And they look at their phone the whole time

Starting point is 00:34:15 because they're just thinking, oh, I'm going to post this with a caption, yada, yada, yada, look who I met. But the UK, it's on some respect stuff. They really want to talk to you and have a conversation with you. And that's how I feel all of Europe. It's a big disconnect. And I really have conversations with people out in the UK.

Starting point is 00:34:36 Interesting. What about the girls out there? How is that? The girls out there are clapped, man. They're clapped? No, I'm just playing. Are you a virgin? Yeah.apped. Nah, I'm just playing. Are you a virgin? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:34:48 No. No, I am. No. He's absolutely lying to you. No, I am. He's absolutely lying to you. No, there's no way. Son, he told a story.

Starting point is 00:34:55 What about mouth? What about mouth? Mouth? Yeah. Have you sucked someone's dick? Never. What about virgin for mouth? Virgin for mouth? What about virgin for mouth? Virgin for mouth?

Starting point is 00:35:07 What about mouth? Yeah. Like a throat virgin. Are you throat virgin? Like, have you been in throat? Have I been in throat? Have you been in throat? Well, I don't get these terminologies.

Starting point is 00:35:20 Like, what is been in throat? It's a Gen Z term. Like, to eat anything? Oh. Have you put your device in a girl's throat? Have you taken the remote and put it been in throat? It's a Gen Z term. Like, eat it. Have you put your device in a girl's throat? Have you taken the remote and put it in the throat?

Starting point is 00:35:28 Oh! Have you gotten a blowjob? Why didn't you just say head? Well, because you said you're a virgin. So I'm a virgin. So I wanted to make it more difficult.

Starting point is 00:35:37 Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's tricky. Oh, man. I'm a child of God. I'm trying to be like you and wait until marriage until I find mine.

Starting point is 00:35:44 You know we have two guys here that waited till marriage. That's good. Not till marriage. Oh, almost till marriage. Till I see. I'm just saying, you got real children of God in front of you right now. No, Alex, forget it. No. You. What do you mean?

Starting point is 00:35:59 I tried. I tried to deliver dick, bro. These bitches was thirsty. That's what I'm talking about thirsty what am I supposed to do bro he's leaving all of them dry we gotta deliver we gotta feed the streets we gotta feed them bro they hungry I don't got no food to give

Starting point is 00:36:13 I got a question I know you're married and stuff but before you settle down do comedian girls do they be like throwing it out there bro I was chilling man like yeah i was mostly chilling we're just at home yeah we're just at home before i was married i was chilling bro okay what's the numbers like you know what i mean mean? Some blue checks? You taking down some Jenners?

Starting point is 00:36:45 Shit. Come on. Bro, you know what's crazy? How you be lying about the pussy you get on this podcast? It's not even like that. Like, bro, I should be seeing, like, TikTokers and stuff. It's like they brag about that shit. And it's just, I really don't think there's nothing to brag about me personally because.

Starting point is 00:37:01 What, getting laid? It's kind of goofy. A little bit. Like, I'm not getting even capped.'s kind of goofy a little bit like i'm not gonna even cap like it kind of is it's goofy like oh bro i'll be getting so much pussy and stuff like that because it's just i think it's disgusting on both ends just sleeping around oh talk about that that's good what do you mean by that like bro i think it's nasty if dude just fucking just catch a bunch of bodies and i think it's nasty if girls just catch a bunch of bodies

Starting point is 00:37:24 i'm not gonna be a hypocrite and be like oh yeah, it's okay for a guy cuz what's that shit that they be saying um Well some dumbass shit. I'll be seeing they be like oh a key that opens Key that opens any lock is a master key, but a lock that opens with any key is a shitty lock. Yeah, like niggas be saying shit like that. It sounds flames. That's a bar. Imagine the first time you say that to a girl and she's looking at her fucking shitty lock.

Starting point is 00:37:52 And I was a virgin forever. That shit was flames, bro. I should have fucked more people. Clearly. I got the shitty key out there. What do you guys think about this? I think guys create whores. What is that guy?

Starting point is 00:38:07 He's so fucking funny. Jesse Lee something? He's really trying to grow that female fan base. No, no, no. I ain't mad at you, bro. I'm being for real, though, because, like,

Starting point is 00:38:16 imagine this, like, you sleep with a girl, and it's like, usually, the first girl you sleep with, like, she's usually connected with you, right? And it's like, you guys are together.

Starting point is 00:38:25 But then maybe you don't want to be with her or something like that. Then she goes through a phase afterwards. What is the phase? You know where she's just like, oh, damn, he didn't want to be with me, so I'm going to just do my thing with other dudes. Seek validation elsewhere. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like guys will create whores.

Starting point is 00:38:42 But is that no accountability for the women and their actions? No. I feel like guys, look, you create horrors. But is that no accountability for the women and their actions? No, I think it definitely, but I guess it's where you think it starts. It's like, is it the chicken or the egg? You know what I mean? I feel like it starts with the girl's dad. That's what I was going to say. I agree, too. Sometimes it's a little bit there.

Starting point is 00:38:57 And it's not just the dad, but there's a void in validation in her life. And she's seeking that from strangers. And then maybe some guys are taking advantage of that, which could be fucked up. But also, the head is fire. I know this is off topic, but how hard is it? Do you guys do comedy as well? Yeah, I do.

Starting point is 00:39:14 How hard is it for you guys to, I guess, traverse with how everything is today? It's like, you say the wrong thing. It's like, I've been seeing a lot of comedians get canceled a lot more. I feel like that's done now. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:28 I feel like it was like that maybe like five years ago. For real. For like a few years, but now I feel like you can kind of say whatever you want. Like,

Starting point is 00:39:34 I think people are like, I think the term woke is now like a pejorative. I think even like, like super liberals don't want to be woke. You know what I mean? Like, even there, like, okay, this term has kind of been bastardized. I think the right is kind of like Even super liberals don't want to be woke. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:39:48 Even there, like, okay, this term has kind of been bastardized. I think the right has kind of used it to death. And I think you can kind of say whatever you want. And I think now this is what happens. Comedy starts to get weird now. Comedy goes through phases. You can't say anything. And then the more prolific political or cultural guys tend to blossom.

Starting point is 00:40:09 And then when you can say pretty much anything, society is kind of open to jokes and comedy becomes more mainstream. Then like the weird alternative comics start to succeed because they're making fun of the institution of comedy. So that's you'll probably see that popping off now. And for me, as annoying as it all was, like this is inappropriate. me as annoying as it all was like this is inappropriate it actually kind of made me grow as a comic because i was like all right well let me be more honest with what i'm actually feeling as opposed to just saying the thing that's probably a little easier to say and funny let me actually grapple with what i feel about the thing and then try to make that funny yeah so it weirdly made as fucking annoying as it was it probably made me a better comment so you like really saying what's on your mind yeah like i don't actually feel this extreme thing necessarily.

Starting point is 00:40:45 It's funny to me, but people find people say I can't say it, whatever. Let me then think, what do I actually feel? And what I actually feel to me is funnier. Cause that's my honest thing. I'm trying to make funny.

Starting point is 00:40:55 Does that make sense? Yeah. I want to, um, I really want to do standup. Like I think you would be fucking great. You did do it, bro.

Starting point is 00:41:03 But I was like taking the piss though. But, um, I'd be like my friends and stuff, they'd be saying, especially Hersey, like, he's real big in the comedy. He'd be saying, like, I could do good. But, like, I really want to put my, because I feel like if I started now and just was like, yo, guys, I'm going on tour, I could, you know, already do good because I have a fan base. You have a huge fan base. But I don't want to do it that way, you know. I feel like I need to at least do comedy clubs for four or five years. You want to build the art.

Starting point is 00:41:27 Build the craft. I want to go to places and not put on my social media, oh, I'm going to be here. I just want to have random people be there. Yeah, that's smart. And really see like, do y'all fuck with me. Yeah, because you'll be funny to the people who don't know you. Yeah. And that gets harder and harder the more famous you get because everybody knows who Chris Rock is

Starting point is 00:41:45 but at the same time that's how you're really going to learn how to curate that craft, that art it's good to have I think in entertainment it's good to have a craft, it's good to have an art it doesn't have to be stand up it could be the videos that you're making

Starting point is 00:41:59 but I think what happens to a lot of people is if they don't have an art fame is their desire. And then once they get famous. You start kissing your twin. It starts getting a little weird. How about the island boys? Yeah, like I just think fame is kind of fruitless. And you don't realize that until you're famous and you're still kind of like miserable.

Starting point is 00:42:17 Like they thought fame was going to cure all their issues or their problems or give them happiness. And then it doesn't. And then after that, they just go, okay, I just need to make as much money as possible. So they just start trying to gravitate towards the thing that makes them money. Whereas if you have like an art or a craft that you really love, you're always trying to push that craft and get better at that art. So if it's stand-up, that's awesome. Or if it's continuing to curate the content that you do, that's awesome.

Starting point is 00:42:43 But yeah, I would say that people who are just chasing fame tend to be pretty miserable. No, definitely. Did you watch stand-up growing up? I'm not going to lie. Like Kevin Hart. I really didn't know about people. Kevin's so funny.

Starting point is 00:42:57 No, yeah, yeah. I love Kevin Hart. But just recently, because I used to not like Dave Chappelle. I was like, I don't get it. But then I really started watching. It's like, I see, like, it's like a line. Like, you see where it's going. Like, whenever I watch a video, it's like, I can see what regular viewers can't see.

Starting point is 00:43:17 It's like, oh, I see what they're doing there. I see where they're taking this. And then it's like, now, like, I can't see it fully like you guys can. But, like, I'm starting to see how, see how the setup way before and the transitions and just the smoothness of everything. And so it's just really watching him and Cat. I think probably my favorite right now is Cat Williams. Cat is incredible. And I'm just really trying to take notes and just see who am I going to be.

Starting point is 00:43:43 You got to watch Patrice O'Neal. Oh, that's Hersey's favorite. Patrice is the goat that's the goat yeah that's the greatest of all time it's crazy because like uh then he like he was like the guy who like really took a stand for comedy when like it was about it like because i think someone made like a a rape joke or something he was on like fox news yeah yeah i mean he just defended the art of the joke and he's like you have to let us try yeah you have to let us try to be funny it doesn't matter how fucked up it is and in the beginning it might not work but we have the right to try yeah because eventually when we keep trying we're gonna it's like a sword you're

Starting point is 00:44:20 just gonna keep on banging away at it and then it's gonna get sharp you don't have to laugh at it but don't but you have to you can't take away our right to try. But he was just a brilliant fucking dude. I mean, he's got like, I mean, there's Elephant in the Room, I think it's probably on Netflix, isn't it, maybe? No, it's on Instagram. It's on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:44:36 On YouTube, Elephant in the Room is on YouTube, but then he's got a bunch of like audio things. There's an album he came out with right before he passed away called Mr. P that's like fucking... Yeah, he's prolific. He's just prolific. If you did comedy, would you try to keep it clean or talk about all the girls

Starting point is 00:44:47 you fucking definitely all the girls I'm fucking you get the inside scoop on my comedy show you know why I think you'd be a really good stand up is the more stuff of yours

Starting point is 00:44:57 I've watched listened to you beyond the pranks even you're a deep kid you're 22 it's really fucking impressive how mature you are how deeply you think about things

Starting point is 00:45:04 appreciate you and I think that combined with funny that is the fundamental things You're a deep kid. You're 22. It's really fucking impressive how mature you are, how deeply you think about things. Appreciate you. And I think that combined with funny, that is the fundamental things you need to be a great stand-up. So I think if you really went after it, and like Andrew said, you got to be – it's good you wouldn't announce your shows. Because if you start chasing the bag, you might feel pressure to pursue it in a different way. It's going to take a few years to even get to the point where you can get on there. And it's like it shouldn't be something you're doing for money in the beginning because that's going to pressure you. And you're like, oh, fuck, I need to just get this 30 minutes because if I have 30 minutes and I can get $40,000 for that gig, it should be I'm going to take as much time as I need to get 15 minutes or five minutes or three minutes, whatever it is. Just take the fucking time if it's something you really want to do.

Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah, definitely. As a matter of fact, try it. You might hate that shit. Yeah, you'll know. It's painful, bro. That's another thing. Bro, that shit looks scary. How do. If it's something you really want to do. Yeah, definitely. As a matter of fact, try it. You might hate that shit. Yeah, you'll know. It's painful, bro. That's another thing. Bro, that shit looks scary. How do you think it's scary?

Starting point is 00:45:49 He's done standard. That's crazy. He's gone on stage and done jokes, and then he's like, man, standard would be crazy. It's like you've dealt with that pressure before. You know what I mean? Not really, because the video was, I went up there telling horrible jokes. So the goal was to be bad. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:03 So bombing didn't feel bad. It felt like he succeeded. Right. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it was a W. And like, the great thing about it

Starting point is 00:46:09 was people in the comments were like, damn, you were low-key funnier than the guys before you. I applaud the people that went up there and tried though

Starting point is 00:46:15 because it's just like, I really just saw like, oh man, I'm not gonna lie, it was this one joke. Brody was like, yeah, I was shopping for watermelons

Starting point is 00:46:23 and I was stealing them. He's like, but it's hard to steal in rollerblades. They're like, yeah, I was shopping for watermelons and I was stealing them. He's like, but it's hard to steal in rollerblades. They're like, hey, stop. You can't get those. And he just goes. And they're like, it was just so quiet. I was laughing, but I was laughing because of how quiet it was. That's why it was funny.

Starting point is 00:46:44 But I was just, but I was laughing because of how quiet it was. That's why it was funny. But I was just like, damn, like, if I was thinking about it, I was like, if I do try this, like, I'm going to have shit like that happen where niggas are going to like, I'm going to say a joke and someone's just going to go, uh, uh. Hit me with one of those. Yeah. Yeah, you have to embrace that it will happen no matter what, no matter how long you've been doing it, you'll still catch slow ones. Yeah. Just part of it. We were talking about this during the green room during the shows this weekend. There's like a generational rift in like what we find funny or how comedy is projected

Starting point is 00:47:17 into the world. Okay. I'm 39, right? So when I'm growing up, people on TV that were funny were trying to be funny. Yeah. Jim Carrey was trying to be funny. Everybody was trying to be funny. And I think it was Derek who said this, or maybe it was you who said it.

Starting point is 00:47:37 An interesting observation. He's like, yeah, I think The Office changed that. I go, what do you mean? Oh, I fucking love The Office. Exactly. And what is the difference with the office, right? The difference with the office, like in Seinfeld, Kramer is trying to walk in the room funny. He's walking in the room.

Starting point is 00:47:50 He's trying to be crazy. Laugh track. There's a laugh track. It's going, hey, you need to laugh now. And then the office comes out, and that motherfucker, Michael Scott, is not trying to be funny. He is just that weird kind of almost cringe guy. The things he's saying is cringy. And then the generation that watches that show and subsequent shows finds cringe stuff really

Starting point is 00:48:12 funny because that's what curated their sense of humor. It's funny when someone is not trying to be funny and they do something so awkward, it's hilarious. And a lot of your pranks are the people think you're dead serious. So we're laughing at those people reacting to you being cringe in that moment. Yeah, a lot of people they say like, they'll be like, man, this was a hard watch. Good job, Jadon. Great job. That's what people like. And it's a generational rift and it might have been The Office.

Starting point is 00:48:40 There are other things that are obviously inspired by The Office, other films. But I didn't even realize it till we're having that discussion in the green room, like how our generation, Jamie Foxx was trying to be funny in the Jamie Foxx show. Yeah, so funny. Every time he came on screen and he succeeded it, he was fucking hilarious. Yeah. And I wonder how that affects how you guys will do stand-up. Because stand-up isn't trying to not be funny. You could make fun of stand-up,

Starting point is 00:49:08 and those are like the alternative guys. Sometimes they have some success. But stand-up needs to be so mainstream for them to succeed. The entire population needs to know what stand-up is for somebody to be making fun of it.

Starting point is 00:49:21 Usually comedy's pretty fringe, so to make fun of it, you're just drafting off of the people who know what it is. Does that make sense? A little bit, yeah. So like, for example, let's say somebody was making fun of streamers. First streamers needs to be mainstream in order for us to get the jokes of making fun

Starting point is 00:49:38 of a streamer. Okay. You know what I mean? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if streaming is fringe, which now is very popular, but if it's fringe, how many people can even get the joke of you making fun of it? So everybody's got to be in on it to get it when you make fun of it. When you're making fun of it.

Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah. But it's interesting, The Office. So you came up on that. Oh, bro, I've probably watched The Office like 15 times over. Bro. I think it's one of the—because it doesn't try. You know, it's no laugh track. Exactly what you said.

Starting point is 00:50:04 It's no—the zoom-ins, the awkwardness. And I guess I low-key try to do that with the videos. It's just like, oh, it's awkward. I'm not necessarily trying to be funny. It's just like, how can we make the situation just awkward? And then it's just fun like that because that's what's funny to me. That's my type of sense of humor I'm not as good at that, I remember Bridesmaids

Starting point is 00:50:28 is so built on just being awkward, there's moments where I'm like I can't do this, just change the channel I don't know if you've seen that but there's a moment where they're trying to one up each other these two bridesmaids are trying to one up each other in their wedding speeches for the bride and it just keeps getting more and more awkward

Starting point is 00:50:44 and more and more embarrassing for them. And you're just, I'm watching, I'm like, Brad, I can't make it through this. I fucking can't handle it. The office, there's moments where I'm like, yo, I can't watch this episode, it's too awkward. Scott's tots. Scott's tots, it's too awkward.

Starting point is 00:50:54 Oh, that shit was hilarious. All time great. This episode, you haven't seen the office, Michael Scott promises all these kids when they're like five years old, if you go to college, I'll pay for it. If you graduate high school, I'll pay for your college. They all graduate, throw him this huge huge thing and then he has to tell

Starting point is 00:51:07 them i'm not paying for your college i'm not i just can't so that's the whole episode there is no heartwarming moment that's the episode it's i can't do it i skipped that episode i can't do it he was like i thought i was gonna be like a multi-millionaire by the time i was 35 i thought i was gonna do it And then he gave them all computer batteries because that's what he could afford. He was like, you guys all have chargers for your bad. I didn't even remember that because I can't watch the episode again. And they made him a theme song when he first came in.

Starting point is 00:51:33 They were happy to see him. There's so many different examples of that. I wish I could find some more shows like The Office. You watch Nathan For You? Nathan For You is fucking great. Nathan. He reminds me of, you know, Niko?

Starting point is 00:51:47 Mm-mm. Niko Amalana. Oh, yeah, is that the British dude? I thought you were setting him up, bro, and I thought you almost had him. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:51:54 I thought you almost had him and I was about to celebrate, bro. Woo! Win a two-rack home? Yeah. Who? It's about to be the episode of the office guy.

Starting point is 00:52:03 That is phenomenal. I was about to stare at the camera and it was going to zoom in. And we'd leave it in. And we'd leave it be the episode of the office. I was about to stare at the camera. It was going to zoom in. And we'd leave it in. And we'd leave it in the episode. Yeah, that would be funny. But yeah, like, Nico makes videos like that

Starting point is 00:52:12 where it's just, like, over the top. But I just can't do that stuff because it's like, whenever I, like, think too much about it, it never comes out good for me. So it's just kind of like, we just run and gun it. You need it to be raw.

Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. Like, we pulled up and gun it. You need it to be raw. Yeah. Like, we pulled up to Gatorade HQ. Okay. And we had Prime. And we have these fake Gatorade bottles, and we put Prime in it. And I bullshitted my way all the way to the top of the Pepsi HQ.

Starting point is 00:52:39 And I had, like, Gatorade employees try it. One of it was called I'm a pussy. So whenever they said it, it sounds like they said I'm a pussy. And it was like ice spice and walk and all this. It was no big elaborate plan

Starting point is 00:52:54 of like, oh, we're going to do this, this, this. It was just, yo, we're just going to talk to someone. Let's see how far we can get. Yeah. That's just how I am. I feel like that's just the best for me. Do your parents watch your content? Yeah, yeah, yeah. My parents do watch the videos. What do they think?

Starting point is 00:53:10 At first, my mom didn't like it. She was like, you can't be a clown every day. But when I wasn't making any money. But then she called me one day. I was actually at Faye's Rugs house. And she was like complaining about my brother about something. So I'm just like listening. And then she was just like, also I want to apologize to you. She was like, you proved me wrong.

Starting point is 00:53:27 And it was like a really cool moment because, you know, usually parents, they don't give you that moment. You know, it's just like, they just like take it to their grave with them. But for her to like, just shut up, to be like, you know, you proved me wrong. You did it.

Starting point is 00:53:38 And like, it made me feel really good. It made me feel really good. Yeah, there's a moment in your most, you visit the most racist town in America. It's a great video. But there's a moment where you call your mom and your mom calls you and you say, hey, in your most, you visit the most racist town in America. It's a great video. But there's a moment where you call your mom and your mom calls you and you say, hey, mom, I'm going to the most racist town in America. I'm thinking all moms are going to be like, what the fuck is this thing you're doing? This is YouTube?

Starting point is 00:53:53 You're doing this for views? And she was just like, okay, well, be safe. And the trust blew my mind. So I'm assuming that was a process to get there. Yeah, no, I got this. I got this, you know. I'm never going to put my team or myself in danger, you know. I'm never going to put my team or myself in danger, you know.

Starting point is 00:54:07 I'm not going to lie. I was kind of smart about it. I got, it was like some... Kind of danger. Some white boys that were in the town, so I brought like six 16-year-old white kids with me. I was like,

Starting point is 00:54:17 they won't shoot the white kids before they shoot me. They use them as a shield? Yeah. Shout out to y'all. But like, yeah, man man shit's just fun bro like it's fun it's fun like i really i really love this what do you make of like uh the different ecosystems online like what do you make of you know the cultural movements on like the manosphere

Starting point is 00:54:39 like do you see these things happening in real time you seem like someone who's really fluent in the internet do you see them happening? Do you see them gaining popularity? Did you know it was gonna happen years before it spiked? I try to tap in, I feel like that's why I got to where I am is because I'm cool with just about anything. I saw Furrycon, I was like, man, I would love to do some stuff with furries. So the furry videos and then I was like, we got twitch so i hopped into the twitch scene and then i saw the manosphere

Starting point is 00:55:08 growing so i went on the fresher fit podcast and i was acting like andrew tate but i was being a simp and it was just like i like i like jumping on a little bit of everything because that's the type of person i am bro i'll be watching you you would think you would know the videos that i watch but you don't like i watch example man bro i love i love history yeah i'm a very i'm a huge history buff who you want knowledgea you go to you watch that youtube channel at all nah i watch this one called oversimplified yeah it's great i love oversimplified yeah uh i just be watching like just these random people i'm gonna send you a few i'm gonna send you a few channels that are great at history. Please do. Please do. I love it.

Starting point is 00:55:45 Over-simplified is fantastic. Also, great thumbnails. Right? The little cartoon character. It just makes you go, okay, this is dumb enough for me to get. Teach me about Napoleon. Oh, man. People don't realize, like, whenever I think of a video, some videos, like, I have to just come up with the title, like, last minute.

Starting point is 00:56:02 But some videos, like, with the WNBA, when I thought of it, I was like, oh, what if minute, but some videos like with the WNBA when I thought of it I was like, oh what about I did don't sleep on the WNBA put in the picture as me sleeping Yeah, it's like in my head. I know if I seen that I'm clicking on it immediately So yeah, I know everybody else is gonna and that's how like I do everything is like giving changes to n-word pass and I like damn everybody puts part ones in their stuff so i was like volume one volume two and i was like oh i gotta make sure i have a white person in the thumbnail like i always think about the thumbnail exactly giving a black dude the n-word pass is not exciting definitely redundant and it's just so important because it's just like

Starting point is 00:56:41 like people say like oh don't read a book by its cover but that's bullshit it's like you look at a book cover and it doesn't look good you're not gonna read it but like if it looks interesting and stuff like that you're gonna at least pick it up like i have enough confidence in myself where it's like the content is gonna grip you i just need you to give me a chance click on the thumbnail and get it so that's why i like if you look at my thumbnails they're more raw like i really like to keep them raw i could do the over the top editing like mr beast and stuff but i feel like it looks like a frame grab what your thumbs yeah like the wmba one looks like a frame exactly video yeah and those are the ones that pop off like when you look at like the old school youtube videos interesting it'd be like the most random thumbnails but they have like

Starting point is 00:57:20 60 million views yeah because it just shows the... There's an authenticity to it. Exactly. It almost feels like it was someone else capturing it. It's like not your video. Someone else saw this guy sleeping. Do you know what I mean? If you're a random person, you don't know who Gideon is, and you're just scrolling YouTube,

Starting point is 00:57:36 you're like, wait, is there a random person sleeping on the thing? Click. If it was super stylized, yeah, you'd probably still get the same. Maybe, I don't know if you'd get the same. I would challenge you to try it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:46 Try just raw. Yeah. Pause. Resume. Do you think it hits different demos, like the way that you frame it? That's a great question. Definitely, but definitely, yeah. Because I look at it like this.

Starting point is 00:58:03 It's like Mr. Beast has Mr. Beast thumbnails. And then, like, I don't see Mr. Beast, like, copycats all the time where they have, like, the over AI stuff. And it's like if I'm going to click on an AI thumbnail, I'm going to click on a Mr. Beast one, you know? Why would I click on someone that's trying to do it? But it's like when it's just a screen grab, it's like, okay, damn, this is just something in the video but that point in the video is interesting to me i want to see what this is and so then i'll click on it and that's what i love is just like it's just so simple like you trust it because a lot of the stuff you'll see like people would see my video thinking oh he didn't sleep at a wmba game like if i made it

Starting point is 00:58:41 over edited where like it was like one of the girls like pointing at me, and like it was like fucking helicopters and stuff, and just over saturated, people would be like, oh this dude's capping. But like when you see it raw, it's like, oh this had to have happened. Cause bro, I look at it like the news, the news clippings, every news clip that they post on YouTube,

Starting point is 00:59:02 what do they do, they have it raw. They have it just a raw thumbnail, like just a mug shot or whatever. Or if it's a car chase, it's just like a screenshot of the car on the highway. People know it's real, so they click on it. And so that's just what I try to do for my channel. It probably is making me grow slower, but it's making people trust. If he titles it this, this is exactly what happened. You also go in with the right expectation.

Starting point is 00:59:28 That's what you want. You want people to click on the video with the right expectation to enjoy the video. If it looks too curated, they're going to think, oh, he set up this whole thing. It's also reflective of the content. If the content is run and gun, the thumbnail is run and gun. If the content is super overproduced, Mr. Beast, the thumbnail is super overproduced.

Starting point is 00:59:43 You need to curate it. I feel like Mr. Beast only gets away with it is cuz like he built that truck started it if any other people like Mr. Beast he put a gold yacht in his thumbnail like any other person put a goal yard in their thumbnail I'll be like bullshit. But like mr. Beast was like knowing this nigga. He probably does have a Trust him and you're going to click on it. He over delivers. You don't have that trust with other creators. Right. So you have to like build that trust with new audiences.

Starting point is 01:00:15 Do you feel like beefing online is important to grow? Definitely not. Definitely not. Like me personally, I don't like beef. Like I don't try to get in beefs and stuff with people. I know like with the Pokimane situation, a lot of people were saying that, like, that was staged and stuff. But, like, that shit literally just happened. What's the Pokimane situation? Oh, man.

Starting point is 01:00:35 Do you—I know that I've heard of this. We even maybe spoke about it. Yeah, we discussed it when it happened. But she's a streamer? Yeah, I was just talking shit on my stream. Yeah. Basically. But then like, I just saw niggas were just acting weird and stuff.

Starting point is 01:00:51 Like, they were making it more. I just hate when people make it more than it needs to be. Like, kind of like with the WNBA thing. Instead of it being funny, they're making it like, oh, that's why these women don't. It's just like, bro, you're making it too much. Yeah, they're using you. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, bro, that's why these women don't do it. It's just like, bro, you're making it too much. Yeah. They're using you. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:07 It's like, bro, you're not. And then it's just making me look bad in front of everybody else because it's like, that's one of my ideas. And it's like, bro, no, I just thought it would be funny. I had no ill will or, you know, like, oh, you know, I get off on, you know. Making these WNBA women feel bad. Yeah. No, like, it's just i thought it was funny so i did

Starting point is 01:01:25 it but like i could see how people do that because they take it and they'll just run with it and make their own stories with it and stuff like that are you banned from all nba events because i know the nba fucks you so i haven't got the letter yet so once i get the letter i'll know but until i get the letter no you're gone it's a thing with uh you Jake Paul, is that real beef or is that just, like, internet shit? I mean, it's not beef anymore. It's just like, I was just like, damn, why are you talking shit? Like, you know? But I really have nothing against Jake, you know?

Starting point is 01:01:54 Like, anybody that does something great for YouTube, like, I think it's amazing, you know? Like, whether you like him or dislike him, he changed the landscape, you know? Like like he's taking it to new levels where he's over here headlining huge arenas, fighting like, you know, the biggest stars and combat, you know, sports and stuff. And it's just like you can't I'll be a hater to say I don't respect that, you know. What was the beef? I just saw the video you put where you kind of body bagged him talking about how his brother fucked his girl and shit like that. That was crazy. I was like, what?

Starting point is 01:02:31 That's why I thought it had to be Cap, because I'm like, all right, they got to be in on this, or you just took a crazy shot. I write my beefs on the people. That was 30 seconds ago. Yeah. I'm thinking a little emotional about that one. Wait, wait, wait.

Starting point is 01:02:50 Fill me in, yo. So it all started back, I was at the UFC. I was at the Izzy versus Peretta fight too. Yeah. And I was live streaming it. And Logan came late. And him and his girl, they sat down. And me and Vito, my filmer, were were just streaming and stuff and then Logan leans over. He's like, yo, he's like, yo

Starting point is 01:03:10 Can we switch seats? He's like I'm not trying to be on live all night and stuff like that I was like, yeah, yeah, it's cool. So we switched seats, but then the internet just blew it up and they're like damn Logan Paul just Rosa Parks jadeon everybody People making memes or it's like Logan like getting in the back of the bus I'm like bro when you keep it like that like jokes like I don't mind like you know I don't look at

Starting point is 01:03:35 myself that seriously like bro that shit's funny as fuck but then uh like a month later uh Jake was like sitting can you pull it up uh I don't know like Jake Paul called out Gideon or, Jake was like sitting. Can you pull it up? I don't know, like Jake Paul called out Jadon or something. Jake's like sitting next to Logan, and Logan's just like, yo, Jake, can you move over?

Starting point is 01:03:59 And then Jake's like, I'm not a fanboy like Jadon. I'm not going to move over like a fanboy. I'm not a bitch-ass fanboy. It was just the fact that he just kept on. It didn't feel like light-hearted. You think it bothered you a little more because the internet had already kind of fucked with you for it, even though you found that funny. On some level, that probably stays in there. Bro, if he just kept it light-hearted, I wouldn't

Starting point is 01:04:16 have tripped. But why is he teasing you if you moved? You did the thing. I don't know. The crazy thing about it is I've never said nothing about it. He was soft of Gideon to move. That's his point. Like, I'm not soft like that. I'm keeping my seat.

Starting point is 01:04:29 Yeah. I don't get it. I thought I was just doing a nice thing. I don't get why they would be feeling inclined to make a video clowning you after you did them the favor. That's why he got tight. He's like, yo, why you taking shots at me? Like, if you didn't move and you made a whole thing about not moving you're like who is this punk trying to tell me to move

Starting point is 01:04:49 that'd be one thing doesn't yeah i'm not a fan boy like jadeon who's like oh yes logan oh yes logan i'm your own brother bro we can go toe to toe oh okay jake you can go toe-to-toe with your brother, alright? So, Jake, why didn't you keep the same energy when he f***ed your girlfriend while you were still dating her? Why didn't you do anything about it? I'm just asking questions, man. God. God. Goddamn, bro. You really elevated the situation into something. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:05:36 That's why I was like, they have to be able to shit. It's crazy because, like, there's more smoke here. There's more than meets the eye. I'm not going to get into it about who I was talking to, but like I was talking to somebody about it and they were like, yeah, you know, he threw like, he threw a right hook at you and you dropped an atomic bomb on him. And they were like, you, you did elevate a hella. And I was like, yeah, I did. But I was just like, you know, it is what it is. But like I said, like I have no ill will against him. You know what I mean? Like,

Starting point is 01:06:02 yeah, I wouldn't either. If said that. You got it out. Yeah. Did he come back? Did he say anything after? I don't think so. Damn. Damn. I'm not going to lie.

Starting point is 01:06:13 If he wanted to, he could beat my ass. We know. Yeah, Jay could beat most people's asses. Jay could fight, man. 100%. Yeah. I think he was just trying to be funny, and it just didn't come across. That's, I think, really all it it was i'm so confused by that video not yours you do the thing that the guy wants and then they make a video making fun of you for doing the thing that they want

Starting point is 01:06:36 am i missing something i don't think logan was in on what was going to happen i think jake just yeah jake was just taking the shot and he was like, oh, okay. Do you think Jake is jealous of your content at all? Yeah, man. I'm not going to lie. If he's jealous of me, he's got to do some self-searching because that nigga's a multimillionaire. Private jets and stuff.

Starting point is 01:06:58 He shouldn't be worried about me. I mean, you're probably doing all right. How's the Rumble deal? It's going good. You like the Rumble money? Is it that kick. It's going good. You like the Rumble money? Is it that kick money? Did you wish you waited for the kick money? Nah.

Starting point is 01:07:10 Definitely not. Nah, nah. Why? What's up? Huh? Why? What's up? Is the kick whack?

Starting point is 01:07:15 No, nah. I'm a complete outsider to this shit. I'm not going to talk bad about kick or nothing like that. I feel like the more companies that pop up, the better. You know? It just makes it where streamers can— Competition is good. Yeah, competition.

Starting point is 01:07:28 It's not a monopoly with just Twitch. So anybody that pops up, hey, do your thing. What is the advantage, you think, of streaming? It's like direct connection to your fans? I feel like it's the most raw. You know what I mean? It's just like you're actually talking to them. You're chilling.

Starting point is 01:07:44 You're having a good time. It's it's just vibes yeah it really is vibes it's like it's like look at you like if you're doing a show but like you're doing your show for like eight hours you know yeah yeah yeah i understand that about that connectivity like you somebody is saying something and you are responding to them and they're a super fan when in history was that possible especially from 3 000 miles 3,000 miles away, 6,000 miles away, 10,000 miles away. A kid in Malaysia is typing to you and you're responding to them.

Starting point is 01:08:11 So that's an exhilarating feeling. I can imagine that. And probably create some real connectivity. Though the amount of time, like doing it for eight hours seems... You'll be surprised, bro. That should be flying. Really?

Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. Yeah. And are you curating link-ups with other people live? Or are you doing this the day before? Like, yo, let's get on. Sometimes I have stuff set up. Like, we did a stream the other day where we did Guess the Murderer.

Starting point is 01:08:32 I had, like, five people come inside. And, like, four of them were regular Joes. And then one of them was a murderer. Like, they had murdered a human being? Yeah. Son of a fuck. Yeah, like, the guy shot someone in the face. Okay.

Starting point is 01:08:43 And, like, we had to guess who was the murderer, and they all had fake stories. And this is your idea? You're cooking these things up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be in the lab. And then how do you produce it? How do you find the murderer? I just told my management, and it's funny because at first it was like, yeah, we found the murderer.

Starting point is 01:09:00 With that one, you hit your manager. The 14-year-olds, I'll take care of myself. Bro, one time we were vlogging, and we were just in L.A. And some dude, he was like, yo, are y'all doing a podcast? And I was like, yeah, we're live right now. And he just comes up to us, and he's like, yo, can I shout out my podcast? I'm like, yeah, shout it out. And I'm just messing with him a little bit.

Starting point is 01:09:24 I'm just like, yeah, Chats saying W-W. And he was just saying how he just got out of jail and stuff. And I was like, oh, for real? I was like, Chats asking what you were in jail for. And he just looked at me, he said, murder. And like, I just looked at him, and I was like, cool. And it was just, but he was the nicest dude. And he made a podcast, his podcast is the Triple R Podcast.

Starting point is 01:09:45 You know what's crazy? I checked that podcast. In the video, you pop up his thumbnail. It had 45 subscribers. You know what it's at now? What? 152,000. That's awesome.

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Starting point is 01:13:10 I wouldn't necessarily say, like, scared. Uh, I really don't know. Like, are you afraid of the cops at all? Like, when the cops pull up on you and, like, you got someone hidden in a suitcase? That's just being black, dude. That's not pranking. Yeah, but I'm curious. Like, you're, like, provoking cops.

Starting point is 01:13:24 Nah, like, if you're cool with them, they're for the most part cool with you. Yeah, we run into the assholes every once in a while, but for the most part, the cops be cool. It'd be crazy because I'll get arrested, and they'll be in the jail cell like, yo, Jeneal, man, can I get a selfie with you real quick? And I'll be getting selfies with them in there. Through the bars? Nah, whenever I'm getting checked in and they're taking pictures

Starting point is 01:13:45 because they'll know the angles where the cameras can't see. So they'll hide the camera and I'll be like this. And um... Oh, that's dumb. Yeah. So these are the murders that you were having them guess? Yeah. Oh, one of them is there live? Yeah. They're all there. Yeah. And one of these guys is a murderer.

Starting point is 01:14:01 Which one do you guys think it is? It's gotta be the white guy, right? I think it's the white guy. It's got to be the white guy. You think so? Yeah. Are you just trying not to be racist? You don't want to say the black guy? Well, there's a lot of black guys, so I could just say one of them.

Starting point is 01:14:13 But I'm assuming that you're going to make the murderer the most unassuming dude. Yeah, I would say the white guy or the black dude with the beard with a big smile on his face. So the dude with the beard, he's from the UK. No, he's not a murderer then. Brody was like- Can't shoot somebody. I killed him with a crowbar. I was like, yeah, I guess that's how it is. The girl, she was saying that she ran over somebody,

Starting point is 01:14:34 but her story was so bad, but I just kept her in because it was just funny. Yeah. And then the white guy said he shot some people in the back because they were breaking into his car. He shot one in the front and one was running away. He shot him in the back and he said that's why he got arrested, because he shot him in the back.

Starting point is 01:14:53 The white guy, the dude in the white shirt, he said that some guys owed him money and so he pulled up on them. And the last dude, he said that some dude was trying to touch his son in a Walmart so he beat him to death. Which one? Those are the stories.

Starting point is 01:15:07 Who did it? It was a dude in the white shirt. Oh, this guy? Yeah, he's a dude that shot him in the face. Oh, damn. So he actually killed somebody. Yeah, he killed someone. He did 15 years, I think.

Starting point is 01:15:17 Wow. Yeah. Damn. You're crazy. And then when it gets revealed, what is the energy? It's not like, it was you. It's not like celebratory, right? I just dapped them all up.

Starting point is 01:15:31 I was like, lit. And then I just had him kind of expound on the story a little bit more. And he was just talking about it. He said he has his life on order now. He runs a business and stuff. So he's doing good for himself. You know what I mean? I feel like, me personally, I feel like for the most part all crimes are forgivable, but

Starting point is 01:15:47 if you're an EDP, that shit's just weird. I can't fuck with that. EDP is pedo. Oh, I was like, what the fuck is that? What does it stand for? Eat that pussy. Get the fuck out of here.

Starting point is 01:16:01 What? I've never heard that. That's what EDP stands for. That's a pedophile. Eat that pussy is EDP. You know the story about the guy, right? No, no. What really is EDP? You don't know who EDP is?

Starting point is 01:16:14 No. EDP 445? That's the YouTuber, yeah. Oh, the fat guy? Yeah. He's in your video. You cut to him real quick. When?

Starting point is 01:16:22 You have a, I don't know if it's like a meme of him or something in your video Oh, probably yeah as a joke EDP is just synonymous for petal now and like the younger groups age. So if anyone ever calls you a EDP with that mustache The do-rag balances You can't be a EDP with it.-rag. I was reading the comment section. They were saying that you look like a Nazi lieutenant. They say you look like you belong on Inglourious Basterds. There's been a couple good ones.

Starting point is 01:16:55 Bro, you look like Kip from Napoleon Dynamite. Yo, right now? That's a banger. Oh, that's hilarious. When he's waiting for La Fonda. Who can eat up with your fade? No, there is no fade. There is no fade.

Starting point is 01:17:09 There is no fade? I don't do the fade. Bro, that's you. That is funny. Oh, that's funny. That is funny. Turbo T? Oh, that's so funny.

Starting point is 01:17:19 No, that's Kip, bro. That's Kip. He's waiting for La Fonda. When he was wearing the hairpiece situation how long does that last for man it could last forever if you want like i'm not gonna lie bro that shit why not just get the the turkish hairline no that shit don't work because it's a whole industry billion dollars it doesn't work because um the guy i mean it doesn't It does work. I know people who have it. I promise you.

Starting point is 01:17:46 I'm with you. I'm with you. It's not going to fuck up. So what it is is your blood vessel dies. And if the blood vessel dies, it can't stay. So notice how Floyd Mayweather, he won't grow his hair out longer than that buzz cut that he has. Okay. Because if he does, you're going to see how weak the hair is.

Starting point is 01:18:03 Right. The hair is really weak and It will eventually die out again because those blood vessels are dead So it doesn't matter how many times you do it Like it's best like if you so for all my people that are like you're starting to see that you're losing your hair it's best that you go get shock therapy to Yeah shock therapy yeah shock therapy to revive the blood vessels so they don't die because once the blood vessel is dried up and gone you can't do the uh the surgery because when they stick it in they're hoping that it connects to something so it can grow yeah and so all your friends that have it

Starting point is 01:18:38 in like a couple years two three years it's gonna start falling out again just go back but it's just bro you're gonna have to And then they're going to have to go back. But it's just, bro, you're going to have to keep on. I mean, I believe him. Because look at LeBron. He got all the money in the world. That motherfucker has not been able to bring it in. Some people it doesn't stick to. Some people it's a little bit better.

Starting point is 01:18:53 But I have some friends who are like, it is incredible. But they might have did it early. They did it early enough where the blood vessel is still there, but they had the hair fall out. Exactly. That's interesting. So you've been bald for how long? I've been bald since I was 20. And did you start balding in high school 19 no so um my biggest

Starting point is 01:19:11 op tyrone he stole my hairline and he what he fucked my mom wow generation it's a little weird bro no way yeah why would your mother do that i'd be asking her all the time and she'd say boy get What? He fucked my mom. Wow, dude. Y'all generation is a little weird, bro. No way. Yeah. Why would your mother do that? I'd be asking her all the time. And she'd say, boy, get off my phone. And then she would just hang up. No. You on the other line with Tyrone? What did you call Tyrone?

Starting point is 01:19:33 Is that what you said? Yeah. Yeah, bro, he's the biggest op ever, bro. Fuck Tyrone. Why don't you pull up on him? You got to beat his ass. Yeah, you don't slide ever, dude. I did slide on him.

Starting point is 01:19:41 I made a diss track on him. Yeah. But that's not sliding, bro. I don't know. It was a pretty devastating diss diss track was it more devastating than what you said i mean does he have a brother does he do him and his brother have anything in common like i don't know more problems it would be no but that's the funnest part is like getting lore like my channel we have lore. Like, we have Tyrone. We have the captain.

Starting point is 01:20:08 We have the angry artist. We have Charmaine. It's just, like, so many different lores. What's up with Charmaine? Charmaine. So it was just crazy. Like, we were, we hopped on the fucking, the radio at Target. And I'm just like, yo, there's these black guys like just walking around

Starting point is 01:20:26 should i just follow them and they're like please don't and i'm like i don't know they look suspicious and i'm just like saying just the most random shit on the walkie talkies and like this manager she's like trying to find us so like i'm just like running around the store and we walk by this black lady and like i literally said hello to her and we walked by and for some reason my filmer he just turned the camera for a second. And she just turns around and she sees the camera on her. And then she just pulls up with her phone. She's like, what the fuck were you filming me? And then I was like, I'm filming you back. And she was just roasting the shit out of me. She was like, I'm following you to your car. And I was like,

Starting point is 01:20:59 I don't have a car, Uber. She was like, yeah, you look broken. You don't have a car. She was just on my ass. But I love her, though. I love her. And she's Charmaine. That's Charmaine. And do you guys go back to the Target? Nah, man, bro. How do you not have a Target sponsorship by now?

Starting point is 01:21:13 You've gotten so much fucking content out of Target. Is that what you do when you go to a new city? You're like, okay, just to warm up for the video, we're going to go into Target? I hate fucking with, like, that was, like, in the beginning. I like just messing with the stores. But now I like messing with, like, that was, like, in the beginning. I liked just messing with the stores. But now I like messing with corporations. Like, I feel like it's a lot more fun to fuck with corporations because it's just, like, they're not used to it, you know? Yeah, and they're on their polite shit.

Starting point is 01:21:35 They're on their corporate behavior. Also, you don't have sympathy for them. So it's very easy. Like, we're all on your side. Yeah, it's like, you know, who's going to feel bad for Pepsi? Yeah. Yo, what did you say to the girl? What did you say to the girl

Starting point is 01:21:47 in the, I forget if it was a Walmart, I don't know what the fuck it was, but her man came. Her man, he said something to her and then she started barking at you. And then her man came and her man was like, damn, bro! Why you got to prank my girl like that? This is for YouTube, babe!

Starting point is 01:22:04 What did you... So, all I, did you? So, remember when Drake fucking, it leaked that he put hot sauce in his condom? And the girl got burnt and stuff like that? So, I had someone make me a Drake hot sauce condom packet and a fake receipt. And I would just go in the stores returning it. And so, I was just in the line talking to her. And I wasn't even talking to her in a nasty way or anything. Like going to stores returning it and so I was just in the line talking to her and I wasn't even talking to her in a nasty way or anything like you watch in the video and she was laughing and everything at first and then I don't know why but she just snapped and she was like I'm getting my

Starting point is 01:22:38 husband come beat your ass and then I'm just chilling and I just see this big ass black dude come up and like I tried to juke him out but I'm just chilling, and then I just see this big-ass black dude come up, and, like, I tried to juke him out, but I was like, fuck. You know how many people say that about your prank videos? I was just chilling, and this big-ass black dude popped up out of nowhere. Literally. And I was like, fuck.

Starting point is 01:22:54 But then I recognized him. He was my homie from high school's dad. No way. He was like... No way. He was like, babe, this is for YouTube. He's like, why are you doing this to my wife? And I was just like, you know it's not like that.

Starting point is 01:23:08 Because she was lying and saying that I was asking her if I could fuck her. And I was just like, wait, what? I was like, because I don't even be talking like that. That's not funny to me. That's serious. And then I posted the video. And then I'm not going to gonna lie the comments were going crazy because like they just saw like how she acted like a victim and just called her husband over but like and how many husbands been you know gotten serious fights because of some

Starting point is 01:23:38 shit like that yeah yeah and like you know if if i didn't know him like it would have been something you know you actually got incredibly lucky. Yeah, literally, literally, literally. And I called him and apologized. I was just like, yo, scariest time you ever felt? That. Yeah, that was it, right? I wasn't necessarily scared, but I was just like, yeah, I'm going to get it.

Starting point is 01:23:58 Nobody pulled a piece out on you? Bro, I'm not going to lie. If you show it, you're not going to blow it. You know what I mean? Hey, yo. That's mean? Hey, yo. Tell that to Harvey Weinstein. Anyone that got shot saw the gun before.

Starting point is 01:24:12 Yeah, exactly. Awesome. We think they're hiding it when they show it. These niggas go like this. It's like, bro. Has anybody ever brandished? Nah, nah. So has anybody ever brandished? Nah,

Starting point is 01:24:26 nah. I've had a knife pulled out on me. That's how the UK holds you down, bro. That's what happens. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, we went to a barber shop and I was asking them for a haircut and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

Starting point is 01:24:37 I don't have my do-rag on and they're like, bro, you gotta take this off. And I was like, oh no, I'm not talking about this. I was like,

Starting point is 01:24:41 I just want to shape up my fuse. come on, bro. And it was funny because they thought it was the funniest thing at first. They were all laughing. But then when they saw the camera, they were like, oh, I'm going to look stupid in front of all these people. They just got pissed.

Starting point is 01:24:53 And they were like, delete that shit right now. And so, like, I just went, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot. And then, like, I, like, deleted it, but it was in my, like, archive. And they were like, go to your recently deleted. And I, like, talked real fast. And I was like, I just did it. I was like, did you not see me go there and the guy was like yeah yeah i saw him and i had it but like i don't like posting stuff like that because it's not like i feel like that's

Starting point is 01:25:12 like more um i like vibes you know i don't like stuff like that what do you mean i don't like posting like oh i had a gun pulled on me or stuff i feel like that's lame you just want it to be fun yeah right yeah that's more like look how extreme a thing happened in a video and less like look at this creative idea that I... It'd be like if you said a horrible joke, right? I like that. But someone

Starting point is 01:25:36 just like is going crazy like... And you're not even like really handling it good. It's not like you're doing good crowd control. They're just going crazy. Would you post it? Only if there's a really funny thing that's happening. It has to be hilarious.

Starting point is 01:25:52 Exactly, and there's nothing funny about it. If it's not funny, yeah, exactly. Your goal is making people laugh and just showing somebody brandish a gun. Nobody's laughing. Yeah. So, yeah, I see why I do it. But if somebody brought out the gun and then you were like, show it or blow it, and then he was just like, and then he starts dying laughing.

Starting point is 01:26:08 That'll be funny. Are you good? There you go. That'll be funny. That'll be funny. There's no pressure on you to hop in that lane of doing the extreme pranks that get,

Starting point is 01:26:14 because I see a lot of people winning, but it's a short-term win. Yeah, you know, like the OnlyFans girls, like they start out just showing their feet or titties and then eventually the subs drop, so it's like,

Starting point is 01:26:22 oh, I need to step it up. You know what's crazy, man? I've been thinking about this, bro, like... OnlyFans? Would you though? I have a fat ass. You let someone tear it up? No! Come on, bro!

Starting point is 01:26:35 What about nice and slow? Shut up, Urshar. What about Urshar? She wouldn't let me wear tight pants. She was like, don't wear tight pants. Someone's gonna come up and stick you in the butt. Wait a minute, are you Jamaican? I don't know what I am. Your mom's from Houston?

Starting point is 01:26:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Texas Christian, bro. Come on. No, my mom's hilarious. My mom, she's so, you know what's crazy? She like, she goes to young people and she's like, do you know Jadion? She's like, that's my son. And so I'll be getting a phone call.

Starting point is 01:27:04 She's like, I know you told me to stop doing this, but I have some more fans. And they're like, hey, Jadion. I'm like, yo, what's up? And it's just cool. She'll be telling everybody. And she's a huge Trump fan. My mom fucking loves Trump. And when I met him and took a picture with him.

Starting point is 01:27:22 This is why you're such an independent thinker. You come from an independent thinker. Like the pressure your mom probably has to be a black woman in Trump. And the fact that she's like, I don't give a fuck what any of these people think. This is what I like and this is what I'm going to do. And if you're already not with a huge friend group when you're super young, you're like, what do I got to lose? That's really it. Okay, so go on this with your mom.

Starting point is 01:27:41 That's really interesting. No, like, whenever it's, like, I think the craziest thing that's ever happened, I was taking pictures at a Minnesota game, and I just feel someone, like, tapping me on my shoulder, and I'm thinking they're wanting a picture, and I'm taking pictures, so I'm just like, don't give me one second. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:55 And then I turn around, and it's Mark Cuban. Yeah, crazy. Whoa, and he just, he was like, yo, man, I gotta get a picture with you. My son loves you, and, like, I think that was, like, my first, like, damn moment, like. Yeah. I gotta get a picture with you My son loves you and why I think that was like my first like damn moment like yeah But you really don't know who's hatches like and it's just like this man's like a multi billionaire And you know he enjoys my content and stuff and it's just like and I show my mom that you to impress his son Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I thankless kids are also

Starting point is 01:28:24 his son. Yeah. Yeah. That's how thankless kids are also. You're not impressed by your billionaire famous father, you fucking- And like Kat, he'll be telling me all the time, he'll be like, bro, all people ask me is about you. Like, when are you going to see Ginny Yonagin? And I'm just like, what the fuck? Wow. Tell me about your mom, though. This is really interesting to me. My mom, yeah. When did she get into the Trump thing? Was she into Bush before that, or is it specifically Trump? Nah, so my mom was like, she was like Obama. All Obama. She was hard Obama, so my mom was like, she was like Obama. All Obama. She was hard Obama. But then she

Starting point is 01:28:47 was like, nah, they're manipulating us. They just want to get the black vote. And then she just started, she just switched over to Trump. And me personally, I don't vote. But like, you know, I saw like the transition and like now she watches Fox News and it's crazy. She went from

Starting point is 01:29:04 CNN to Fox News and she is conservative like she's conservative but it's just it's funny it's funny I be telling all the time I'm like when you're gonna rock your MAGA hat and she's like no I'm not trying to get jumped. You gotta get a MAGA do-rag bro that should be crazy get your mom one of those. It's crazy. I feel like it's a lot cooler now, but if you were black and said you'd like Trump back in 2016, you would get cooked up. Yeah. You would get cooked up bad.

Starting point is 01:29:34 But now- It's a little bit more freedom to do it because the stakes feel a little bit lower. Maybe if it gets closer to election time and it's a reality where he could potentially win, we'll see. Maybe people start to cook you up a little bit more. The temperature gets hot around election time and it's a reality where like, you know, he could potentially win. We'll see. Maybe people start to cook you up a little bit more. The temperature gets hot around election time. I got cooked up for taking a picture with him. I'm like, bro, I don't give a fuck who you are. Like, this is a former president.

Starting point is 01:29:54 United States. I'm going to ask him for a picture, you know? Yeah. And people were like, how the fuck could you take a picture with him and stuff like that? I was like, nigga, suck my dick. Yeah. What was his compliment to you when he saw you? He always opens with a compliment.

Starting point is 01:30:05 So, it's crazy. I was with the CEO of Rumble, and I was like, yo, could you ask Mr. Trump if I could take a picture with him? And he was afraid I was going to do something. He was like, and he was like, I was like, okay, he's being too pussy. So, Donald Trump Jr. had came up to me earlier to meet

Starting point is 01:30:21 his son, and I took a picture with his son. So, I asked Donald Trump Jr., I was like, yo, you think it's okay if I take a picture with your father? He's like, yeah. And so, Donald Trump Jr. had came up to me earlier to meet his son. Yeah. And I took a picture with his son. So I asked Donald Trump Jr., I was like, yo, you think it's okay if I take a picture with your father? He's like, yeah. And so Donald Trump Jr., he took the picture for us. And I shook his hand. I was talking to him. And I was like, Mr. Trump, is it cool if I get a small loan of a million dollars? I'm not going to lie.

Starting point is 01:30:37 I got hella nervous. And so I turned away real fast. But I was like, I got to say it. And I said it. And he was just laughing. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought it say it. And I said it, and he was just laughing. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought it was funny. He was a really cool dude. And did he say anything about you? Did he be, ah, you're tall, you're

Starting point is 01:30:51 strong? He usually opens with a compliment. I was like, that's a good sign. He was just like, how you doing, young man? Yeah, tons of positivity on the open. Yeah. You know DJ Academic? Of course. It was so funny, because when he first walked in... He thought you were him.

Starting point is 01:31:08 Like, bro, he, like, shut down the place for a minute. Like, everybody was just like, let's go, Brandon. And he's just, like, walking by. And so I'm with Aiden. And so, like,

Starting point is 01:31:18 Aiden stands up first. He shakes his hand. Then I stand up and I shake his hand. And then, like, Academics is behind me. And I'm like, Academics was just on his phone.

Starting point is 01:31:26 And, like, everybody was clowning him, saying, like, oh, that boy on the weather app. And, like, Academics, like, didn't, like, take a picture with him at first. And everybody was afraid to ask for a picture. But, like, I was the first person that went up and asked. Then after I asked, everybody. The floodgates. Yeah, like, everybody was just like, oh, I'm going to go get my picture. I'm going to go get my picture.

Starting point is 01:31:42 Yeah. And then Academics was like, you know what? Like, because I know he's probably, like, nervous. And he's like, fuck it. And then, like, Acad'm going to go get my picture. I'm going to go get my picture. Yeah. And then academics was like, you know what? Because I know he's probably nervous. And he's like, fuck it. And then academics finally went up and got one. Because most people are worried about the scrutiny. Yeah. That's what I was saying to you earlier.

Starting point is 01:31:53 It's like, you don't think about that. Nah, man. I want this thing. I will go do it. And your mom is also like, I believe this thing. I'm going to do it. It's rare. Independent thought is rare.

Starting point is 01:32:02 Regardless if people think you're right or wrong. Very independent. The bravery to think independently is rare. Independent thought is rare. Regardless if people think you're right or wrong. Very independent. The bravery to think independently is rare. Because some people, I feel like that stunts your creativity. If you guys have a joke and you're like, damn, how's everybody going to react to this? Are people going to get mad or stuff like that? Then it's just like you're always in your head. And then when you do it, you're not going to do it to your best ability.

Starting point is 01:32:21 You're not creating authentically. You're creating based on what they will want, what will enjoy and it's like no you have to lead them they're here watching you they're here curious about what you're gonna put out but now like i'm not gonna lie i kind of i kind of be talking to myself i'm just like you know i've done a lot of crazy stuff and it's just like you know i do want to just kind of like just chill out and like i do have the fan base where i can just chill like i'd be on my second channel just reacting to videos, and they'll be getting a couple million views and stuff. And it's like, I'm realizing, like, people really just fuck with me for me.

Starting point is 01:32:50 So it's just like, you know, I just want to be on some chill stuff and just, you know, just go here and do this or just show cool experiences while being myself, you know. It doesn't always have to be a title of don't sleep on the WNBA or, you know, fake beer. You know, it could just be on some chill stuff. And that's when the best stuff comes is like just you going about doing your thing and just having fun. Now, I've heard you say you're done at 25.

Starting point is 01:33:19 Do you still believe that or is that something that's morphed? What is it going to be? Nah, nah. still believe that or is that something that's morphed what is it gonna be nah nah because like i know i have like an idea and it was just like i'll get that itch and i like i'll want to do it you know what i mean like and do you have a vision for what you wanted to what you want your career your content to morph into or no bro i'm already blessed like it doesn't matter if i fall off or anything it's just like at the end of the day, it's like I won. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:33:47 I make money making videos. You know what I mean? I did get in that, like, that circle, like you were saying, of just, like, chasing subscribers, chasing this and that. But then, like, I really just, like, prayed and sat to myself and thought about it, like, you know, okay, I'm at 7 million subs now. If I got to 10 tomorrow, would anything really change? And it's like, no.

Starting point is 01:34:09 And it's just like... Success is addictive, though. And it's a beautiful thing, but it is not as fruitful as the passion or the art and the idea. Do you ever be like, just thinking back on the grind? Do you miss it? No, because I still see myself in the grind i think it's it's more like i have to give myself a little moment to go hey

Starting point is 01:34:31 look what what we did yeah because it's very easy to just focus on what's next so every once in a while i have to go oh shit look at this studio you know we started we started a thing that was the size of the booth where miles is at and now we built this whole fucking studio oh shit we're on the road we got arenas sold out like i have to go this is awesome because it's very easy to look one step beyond where you are yeah but the the the catalyst to keep creating i think is just the desire to like execute the project and to like push the art forward like what have i not done yet how can i what have people not done yet? How can I, what have people not done yet? How can I challenge myself?

Starting point is 01:35:07 And how can I make sure that this standup set is different than the last? What have I not shown? How can I show it? What have I not done yet? How can I do that? And do that even when the audience might be expecting something different.

Starting point is 01:35:21 That's the biggest challenge. They start to expect something from you. So the scariest thing in that moment is to change because it's going against their expectation potentially and now it has to be so good that it has to be against their expectation and still surpass what they want i think the first time i did something like that was we did this series called the biggest menace where it was me and uh, this guy from the uk Nico yeah and uh

Starting point is 01:35:46 He's like the biggest prankster out there and like he would have challenges for me to do and I would have challenges for him to do and it took us a year to do it and uh, we we put like over a million dollars into it and like It was like when you're just working on something for a year And no one knows about it and no one sees it It's like you're really just in your inner thoughts like damn is it gonna work like yeah but it's like just seeing

Starting point is 01:36:09 the payoff and like the reaction to it and people loving it and stuff like that like so satisfying oh man it's the best yeah you're doing something you haven't done before it's dangerous it's scary it's so scary and the audience doesn't know what it is you don't know if they're gonna like it that's the ballsy thing i like we were talking about this over the weekend but i think you even brought up like uh drake is a good example. Queen, a good example, like music bands that will like change their music while they're at the top. That's a ballsy fucking thing to do. But those are the people who last and the people who like start doing almost like impressions of themselves don't last. Yeah. Right. Cause they're just

Starting point is 01:36:44 chasing success. What we were talking about. They're like, okay, as long as my numbers stay like this, or as long as this happens right there, no, you got to take the risk of doing something different. And I think if you execute it really well, your audience appreciates that you were brave enough to do that and then give them something they didn't even know that they liked. What do you think your change will be? We're working on it now. Been working on it for a while.

Starting point is 01:37:06 Very excited to show it to people you'll come see it you'll come out to a show soon but it's with stand up and it's something I've been working fucking really hard on and something I haven't spoken about on podcasts or socials or anything

Starting point is 01:37:22 it's been very difficult to have gone through over the last year and the only place I've spoken about on podcasts or socials or anything that's been very difficult to have gone through over the last year. The only place I've spoken about is through stand-up. Yeah, I want this new tour to be the perfect execution of that. Because

Starting point is 01:37:40 Hersey put me on to you. Hersey's a huge fan. That's why I brought him on. Respect, Hersey. He was just telling me how you saw Russ and what he was doing and how you revised that for comedy. Totally. It was just crazy. Because I get inspiration from so many other different fields and just how people do things differently where really, like, nothing is really different at the end of the day. It's like you could take a little bit from something and add it to yourself. And it was just like the way you saw that and, like, change it to yourself, like, it was just like, man.

Starting point is 01:38:23 And, like, now seeing where you are, it's just like you always have to, like, take that leap. Bro, Russ, yeah, he changed everything for me, man. I mean, there's so many other people that played this incredible role. Like Charlamagne was massive, like giving me an audience to speak to every week. You know what I mean? Like that was huge. And obviously Rogan and, and all the guys, but like Russ was putting a new song out every week. He was writing it. He was writing a beat. He was doing everything. I saw him do that. And I and i was like wow like if i don't try that with comedy i'm not at least doing everything i can yeah that's the bare minimum to do everything i can because this guy's doing it yeah i should try it as well and then and it's weird that's now has become kind of this industry standard like everybody putting out their clips every single week or their moments that happen at their shows.

Starting point is 01:39:06 And it's been really cool. And that comes from Russ. And I try to say it as many times as possible because he deserves credit for it, even though it's a different industry. It's like, if he didn't do it, I don't think I'd come to that idea. No, TikTok low-key saved my career

Starting point is 01:39:20 because I was just kind of doing like algorithm, what's the word? Algorithm. Algorithm videos. Yeah yeah my videos I knew that would do good but then like I like stalled and for like six months I was stuck at two hundred and forty four thousand like fucking hate that number like just seen it like every time I would post just lose subscribers was had two hundred forty four thousand subs and only getting three thousand views a video like it was to the point where it's like i didn't even want to show my channel to nobody like you know because i'll be like i'll

Starting point is 01:39:49 show it to someone i'll be like then you have 244 000 but you only get 3 000 views a video and it was like looking embarrassing and i was about to like just i was gonna delete my channel i'll just be like you know what i'm gonna just keep on working at lows and i'm not gonna worry about it and then my friend he he told me, he was like, bro, all of us helped you out with the videos. I was like, you don't have to keep on making videos, you might as well just leave them up. So I just left it and then two weeks later,

Starting point is 01:40:13 I just prayed and I was like, God, please just give me a love for it and a passion for it so that way I can just go hard. And I did this one video, I said, you know what, I'm gonna only do videos that I think are funny. And so I had thought of this idea of, like, getting an RC car and putting a walkie-talkie on it and just, like, driving it up to people

Starting point is 01:40:32 and just, like, just talking shit. Like, if someone's at a bench, like, move off the bench. Move, like, just, like, I just did it. And then I posted the video and it really wasn't doing nothing. And something was just, like, make a TikTok clip. And I hadn't even made a TikTok doing nothing. And something was just like, make a TikTok clip. And I hadn't even made a TikTok clip yet. And I was just like, all right.

Starting point is 01:40:48 So I made a TikTok clip. I posted it. And I didn't have notice on my TikTok yet. So I'm doing Uber Eats. And I'm like three hours in. I'm just delivering stuff. Notes are notifications. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:41:01 There you go. I'm nice. Window, bro. Go on, go on. You're doing your reads. I'm just like, it's like three hours in, and then I'm just like, oh, let me see how it's doing. And I check. Crazy.

Starting point is 01:41:12 And it's at like 80,000 likes, 200,000 views in three hours. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. And like, I've been losing subs for six months, and this was the first time I'm gaining subs. It topped off at like six million views and a million likes on TikTok. And usually people don't get like a traction from TikTok to YouTube, but I literally gained 20,000 subs from that one TikTok. So people are like, I need more of this.

Starting point is 01:41:33 And then they went and found all your videos. Then you had all those videos that didn't have all that many views and then they all flooded it. Yeah. And then did all those videos go up? Not really, but it was just that one video. That one video, I think it topped off at like 80K,

Starting point is 01:41:47 which is like numbers I hadn't touched in months. So I was just happy. And so I just kept on posting, kept on posting, kept on posting. And then I took another leap where I was just like, you know what? Instead of putting background music in my videos, because I was like, oh, if I don't put background music, is that going to hold their attention? I was just like, you know what?

Starting point is 01:42:00 I just wanted to feel more raw. So I took a huge leap and just cut out background music. And then that was the video I met Tyrone. And then that was my first lore video. Yeah, you created culture. Yeah. You created community. To this day, people all over the world, they'll be like, fuck Tyrone.

Starting point is 01:42:15 Fuck Tyrone. I haven't seen them in three years, and they still say it. It was a blessing. I just started posting, posting, posting. So I say if anyone's trying to grow their YouTube or whatever, definitely post clips on TikTok. Now you see it all the time. But also do what you love. To me, that was the biggest part of the message right there.

Starting point is 01:42:33 I said, I'm going to do the videos I'm passionate about that I find funny. Instead of chasing the algo, I'm going to post what I like, what I enjoy creating, and then hopefully the algorithm will find the people that have a similar sense of humor as me. That's the beautiful thing about the fucking internet. It's like I don't understand why anybody's chasing, right, when you have the opportunity to build your own community. Back in the day when shit was on TV, this is you're too young to probably even remember this, but like you had to conform to what Channel 11's audience was. Channel 11 was like, hey, our demographic is women from 30 to 50. So you need to write a show for that. So everything was conforming.

Starting point is 01:43:12 Now you could be your realist, authentic self and you might find 200,000 people to fuck with you. And that's way better than faking like you a 45-year-old white lady. You know? Yeah, so I love that. Me, that's the message right there. You said, I'm going to create for me. Yeah. And then immediately the internet was like, oh, we like that.

Starting point is 01:43:30 Keep giving us that. Yeah, because, like, you know, like, yeah, a lot of people don't fuck with me, but, like, I have a lot of people that do fuck with me. A lot of people do. And, like, that's, I think that's the most important thing is just, like, you know, I'm not trying to be funny for everybody or include everybody. It's great. I saw Ice Cube. He was talking about how he made Friday and he was saying how like they were just trying to like accomplish like what happened in the hood and they weren't trying to make it broad for everybody. They just wanted it to make like a, oh man, remember when you used to live in the hood? And he was like, and he said, uh you make the best stuff where you always keep your core audience

Starting point is 01:44:06 at the forefront because it's like a club yeah and either everybody's looking from the outside and they want to join in and they'll come in but if you look to grab people then the people that are already inside are gonna leave you you ever travel you go like uh let's say you go to paris or you're going to italy or you're going to london whatever like that like you say you go to Paris or you're going to Italy or you're going to London, whatever like that. Like, you don't go to an Americanized bar, a hard rock cafe. Like, you don't go all the way over there to get a version of home, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You go over there because you're curious about this thing you know nothing about. And you want to be this most authentic self.

Starting point is 01:44:36 And I think that was Friday in a lot of ways. It was like people who had lived that life were like, ooh, is this what it's like? This is cool. And the people who did were like, finally, not some fucking whitewashed Hollywood version of what Compton's supposed to look like. It was like The Wire. There's this show on HBO. You've ever heard of The Wire? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like The Wire. I remember

Starting point is 01:44:54 watching The Wire as a kid, and I felt like a voyeur. I was like, whoa, is this Baltimore? This is incredible. This is fascinating. And then people who grew up in Baltimore were like, did they really make a real Baltimore show? People felt that way about the Sopranos. It's like everything that succeeds is so authentic, and it's not trying to reach across the aisle and make sure you feel comfortable watching it. It's painfully authentic.

Starting point is 01:45:15 That's Patrice. Painfully authentic. And then the authenticity increases the curiosity. Everybody wants to know about some shit that they're excluded from or they haven't even heard of. And maybe by creating shit that was for you, that's what you did. People on the outside were like,

Starting point is 01:45:33 who is this crazy motherfucker sleeping at a WNBA game? And the people on the inside were like, oh, Tyrone's going to get it when he finds it in a few years. Like, you created the community. I don't know, that's what we try to do here and I think it's beautiful.

Starting point is 01:45:44 When the videos weren't hitting, when you put out that, the getting evicted, was that real? Oh, yeah, yeah. I did get evicted. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I think that was a break. It wasn't like financial issues or nothing. It was because we were like in the UK for like a month and we missed a payment.

Starting point is 01:45:58 So they were like, if you miss a payment, you have to come in somewhere. And I was like, yo, I'm in the UK. Like I can't go into there. And so like they just like I'm in the UK. Like, I can't go into there. And so, like, they just, like, started the eviction process. And then one day I just came over because we moved into a new crib and went over to the old crib

Starting point is 01:46:13 just to get something. And I just saw all my shit outside. And I was just like, damn. And I was just like, it was all, like. Yo, look, I have a video for you if you can recreate that. They just put your stuff outside? They put it all outside.

Starting point is 01:46:25 Can you get evicted but only have dildos in the apartment? That would be jokes. And then they have to put them outside. It's just all sex. All day. They just have to. It's a guy tied up. We did a bit where we went to a car wash and I just had a bunch of dildos around the car.

Starting point is 01:46:44 You had to wash them? Yeah. Bro, that's great. Inside the car, detailing it. That's fucking great. And it's like, you see them trying to avoid it. That's fine. I love shit like that.

Starting point is 01:46:57 Or, no, my favorite stuff to do is we'll be at the airport. It's a bit I did. And we're going to post it again where I'll'll have like these movies but like they're like parodies so it's like Forrest Hump. Yeah, Forrest Hump or Black Hawk Down. It'll be like these

Starting point is 01:47:13 like porno things and I'll like make them and I'll put them in CD or like CD holders and I'll like make it look like they're real movies and I'll be running like oh my gosh,

Starting point is 01:47:22 I'm about to be late, I'm about to be late and then I'll fall and then like I'll drop everything and then people come to help but then they're just like looking at it. I'm like just give me like, oh my gosh, I'm about to be late, I'm about to be, and then I'll fall. And then I'll drop everything, and then people come to help, but then they're just looking at it. I'm like, just give me that, give me that, give me that. And so we did it again, but I just had a shit ton of dildos and

Starting point is 01:47:33 condoms and fucking G-strings and stuff. And I just fell, and this guy was helping me. I was like, here, pick this up, pick this up. I was giving him the dildos and stuff. And Bernie's a champ, because he was holding it. I just got everything. I was like, thank you, thank you. And I just ran off. And it's like, here, pick this up, pick this up. I'm giving him the dildos and stuff. Brody's a champ because he was holding it. I just got everything. I was like, thank you, thank you.

Starting point is 01:47:47 And I just ran off. Shit like that's just fucking hilarious. Because if you see that, you're telling everybody. You're like, oh, bro, you won't believe what I saw. Some weirdo fucking dropped all his dildos on the ground. And it's just like, that's my type of sense of humor. Bro, there was one thing that was killing me, bro.

Starting point is 01:48:07 It was, there was some dudes, I guess, in the Walmart or the Target. I don't know if it was you filming, but you made it almost seem like you were on their side when they were attacking

Starting point is 01:48:18 the person filming you. Do you remember this? Oh, you're talking about the Why You Filming Me? Why You Filming Me, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Tanner. No, this was my favorite part.

Starting point is 01:48:28 So the dudes are like, why you filming me? And then he starts acting as if he's with the dudes who are like, why the fuck you filming these two white guys? And he starts like holding the dude back, but like really like holding him. Matt, you were on his titties and his belly. I was like, Eric, don't throw your life away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you were telling the other dude to hold you back. And, like, he was.

Starting point is 01:48:53 Like, it was just the, like, they had to at some point realize, right? Bro, they don't. So the guy that was doing it, the white dude, he's the one that started that. And, like, he had, like, 3,000 subs. And I saw that shit. I was just crying. So I DM'd him, I was like, bro, if you could fly out to Houston,

Starting point is 01:49:07 you can crash on my crib and we can knock this out. And so he flew out and we just went out. And it's just crazy. We would just be talking to him about it and we'd be like, is he with you? Like, no. Like, why are you filming? And it's just like, everybody's reaction is just like,

Starting point is 01:49:22 why are you filming? We tell our filmers, don't say nothing. So they they're just like filming and then we went to a club and the way you held him some mad times you ever heard that sound uh i knew the perk was fake but i still ate it because i'm a Yeah, so that's me. So No, but like it was a sound oh, oh there's an You wanna go away? Are y'all recording? Yeah, why y'all recording? Wait, hold up, I got this, I got this, man. I got this. Why you guys recording? No legal right. Put up your expensive camera.

Starting point is 01:50:15 They probably paid a lot of money for it. Yo, can we get security? What are they doing, why? Hold on, man, it's not worth it, Eric. Eric, it's not worth it, bro. It's not worth it. I'm not gonna let them, it's not worth it. Here, I'll cover's not worth it, bro. I'm not gonna let them know. It's not worth it.

Starting point is 01:50:25 Here, I'll cover you. Meet us outside. Meet us outside. Meet us outside. I don't know. He's recording for some reason, getting up in our faces and shit. They're trying to go viral. Oh, here.

Starting point is 01:50:34 Can you hold this for me real quick? I'll make you go viral. He's holding a muscle. I'll make you go viral, right? What's up? What's up? It's not worth it, Eric. You're good.

Starting point is 01:50:43 You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good. You're good.

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Starting point is 01:50:52 Hold him like that in them short ass shorts too. Literally, I look like a mess. Oh, so we're at this club. It's called Voodoo Hut. And I'm just like, why are you filming me? And then this one, the fucking security guard just talk to me. So you won't know, boss, you won't.

Starting point is 01:51:16 That's what I'm saying. That's weird, ma'am. I'm not going to lie. I'm a snap. I'm a snap. Hey, I got. Oh, God. Did you can't stop me. Hey, I got one. Oh, shit. Goddamn. Bro. You can't stop me. Give me that footage.

Starting point is 01:51:30 It's right there. Let me go. Let me go, bro. Stop. Let me throw my life away. Give me that SD card right now. Once he lets me go, I'm breaking that camera. Stop.

Starting point is 01:51:49 Hey, chill out. What he lets me go I'm breaking that camera Once he lets me go you are finished pretty sound like Alex Jones I promise I'm not gonna do anything I'll walk through my life away The funny thing about is like nothing them realized we were just all joking. The cops got to know you're fucking around. No, they didn't. Because I was asking the cops if I could fight them. I was like, can I do mutual combat with them right here?

Starting point is 01:52:33 And they were like, no. You are a bold-ass black dude, bro. Getting choked out by a cop and staring at your character. Do you have no fear of the cops at all? No. There's progress. I really like... That really is progress. That's progress. I really like... That really is progress. I would never tell you shit like that.

Starting point is 01:52:49 The crazy thing about it was he wasn't even restraining me hard. I know. I was just acting like it was harder than it really was. But you see my homie right there in the blue? He got shot. What? Yeah, he got shot. He just recovered.

Starting point is 01:53:04 For this prank? No, he did this prank no he did literally just recovered he uh he went to the mall and he was doing like a fake translator prank and like he was like just speaking gibberish he was like i think i was like what he's like and then like he would and then he would just say something on the thing. He just had it say like, you smell like Fruit Loops today or something like that

Starting point is 01:53:30 and put it in his ear and the guy just looked at him, pulled out a gun and just shot him in the stomach. No. He showed it and bloated, huh? What?

Starting point is 01:53:38 Wow. And bro, it was just like all these reaction channels were just cooking him and stuff like that. Wait, is the video, he put up the video? No, he hasn't put up the video. I think the cops have it, but I think he got it back. I don't know yet, but he just recovered.

Starting point is 01:53:58 He just posted his first video back. Were there charges against the guy that shot him? Yeah, they were trying to put charges against him, too. For what? Saying somebody smelled like Froot Loops? Yeah, they were saying like he like initiated it or something like that. But um, but the dude like, apparently the dude that did it, he had like crazy mental illness like really really bad. Yeah. Apparently also like he was like an EDP too, like. Oh wow. Yeah, like it was like lowkey deepkey deep but um but that doesn't get you scared hearing that uh-huh because that's just a friendly plank and then that shit just went wrong yeah that

Starting point is 01:54:30 wasn't even like some of these pranks are like yo you kind of deserved it that one doesn't sound like it yeah and like people were lying they were saying like like they were like saying like the most random stuff they were like oh he was doing like a stealing people's car like they were like just making a bullshit to like kind of rationalize why he got shot. But like that was the whole thing was like, he just said, you smell like Fruit Loops and the guy just shot him. Like how do you assess someone

Starting point is 01:54:51 that you're gonna like do a video on? You know what I mean? Like if you're walking in Walmart, are you like, oh, that person's too crazy? No, like I don't wanna be a bitch. Like, you know, like I don't wanna be that guy that just like goes up to girls or, like I'll go to a big ass dude,

Starting point is 01:55:02 but it's like, I'm not like gonna just like disrespect you. Like, oh, you look like a bitch, like, you know, that's not funny, it's just, like, like, just say something stupid, like, bro, what's your workout program, I'm trying to get, like, you, or, like, like, just, like, start a conversation or something, you know, like, that just ends it being, like, more of a vibe than, um, you know, that, but then now it's hard, like, I go up to go talk to somebody, somebody and they'll turn around and be like, oh, what's up? Judy on don't know. Yeah Immediately a motherfuckers hear my voice. Yeah, I heard your voice and I was just like what the fuck does that even mean? Like you just hurt me. That's us. You might need wig bro. You might need a wig a wig

Starting point is 01:55:38 I'm just saying like if if the Dewey is so synonymous with you and they see you in Target It's 100%. But my style, I hate hidden pranks because that's the hardest. Hidden pranks are the hardest, bro. What do you mean? When you have to set up the camera and your cameraman can't be seen. Those shits are so stressful. I do not like doing hidden pranks.

Starting point is 01:56:01 I just like running gun. Running gun, just going around. If you see the camera, you see the camera. If you don't, you don't. Like I don't really care if you see the camera or not. Like I just want to talk to you. All right guys, we're going to take a break real quick because I have to tell you about Fume.

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Starting point is 01:59:43 even for you that you're like, bro, I wish I could do it, but I just can't? Yeah, I had a really fucked up idea and all my friends talked me out of it, and I'm glad they did. Oh boy, let's go. It's really fucked up. I wanted to go to an AA meeting and drink fake beers

Starting point is 01:59:57 doing it. And like... It's crazy cause like I would've talked you into it I told my mom about it and my mom was like no don't do that she was like cause probably one of your fans like their parents are alcoholics

Starting point is 02:00:16 and they use your video as an escape and I was just like damn and I feel like it's probably the same with jokes it's like you always think of ways to one up yourself so it's like you do kind of like go on a fucked up territory where it's like, damn, is this really bad? And you have to ask people around you like, yo, what do you guys think about this? And it's just like, no, they keep me straight. What about a prank that you would do but you're worried you'd go to prison?

Starting point is 02:00:39 A prank I would do? Is there anything that you're worried about the legal ramifications? You see, when you think about that, it, it's just, it makes it lame. Like, you just got to go with the flow. You know what I mean? So there's nothing besides the AA thing that you're like, I just can't do that. That's too risky. Bro, like, I'm looking at pussy too.

Starting point is 02:00:58 Like, I would hate for like one of my, I would hate for like one of my like fans to just be like, damn, man, I really looked up to you. And then you did that. And it's just like, man, like that would actually like genuinely hurt me. Yeah. And it's be like, damn, man, I really looked up to you, and then you did that, and it's just like, man, like, that would actually, like, genuinely hurt me. Yeah. And it's just like, fuck. It'd be like, maybe, like, let's say, I don't know, let's say you made a joke about someone, like, autistic. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:01:15 And it's just like, bro, I'm a huge autistic fan, and, like, well, I guess it's different with comedy. Yeah. But, like, I don't know. Like, I would just feel bad. But like, I don't know. Like, I would just feel bad. So now I'm trying to like find more, more like where it's just like, okay, you're a huge corporation or you're a person, like a famous person.

Starting point is 02:01:34 It's cool. It's okay. Like, you can handle it. Like, I'm like more looking towards that direction. Yeah. Do you feel any responsibility of contacting other pranksters that are going too far? Like, I saw some dude in the UK that he recently got locked up. He was entering people's houses and shit like that.

Starting point is 02:01:48 Yeah, I talked to that dude. What'd you say? I was just like, good job. Try that in a small town. I kept in a buck with him. His name is Mizzy. I was like, bro, you're doing all this and it's like, yeah, you're getting a fan base, but you're going to lose all your social medias. He's like, that's the thing. I don't even have a social media. Brody lost his TikTok, his YouTube, Facebook, all that. I was just like, bro, you're doing all this, and it's like, yeah, you're getting a fan base, but you're going to lose all your social medias. He's like, that's the thing, I don't even have a social media.

Starting point is 02:02:06 Like, Brody lost his TikTok, his YouTube, Facebook, all that, and I was just like, bro, you can't even monetize. And he was like, it's not about monetizing, it's about the movement. And I was like, what the fuck's the movement when the movement doesn't have nowhere to gather? And like, there's a lot of people like, bro, there's this one dude,

Starting point is 02:02:21 his name is fucking, uh, or something like that fucking bleep out the name so like no one looks him up but this dude's fucked like for me to say you're fucked you're fucked like he went up to this couple and he was they were eating outside he was like yo can you guys give me some food please i'm very hungry oh i heard about it and they yeah and they gave him some money and he go gets the food and then he goes and he picks up a rock and he's like thank you for the food i And then he goes and he picks up a rock. And he's like, thank you for the food.

Starting point is 02:02:47 I really appreciate you. And then he throws the rock on the table. And they just laugh. He's like, there's a rock. He was like, if you guys didn't, he was like, because of your guys' kindness, I'm sparing you. And I'm not going to bash your guys' head in with this rock. And, like, they're just, like, fucking, like, looking at him. And the guy, like, protecting his girl, like, bro, get the fuck back.

Starting point is 02:03:07 And, like, he did shit like that And he did something where like he fucking um He shot a rabbit with a BB gun And then like he like stepped on its neck to like fucking suffocate it and even his film was like brought him I'm not trying to film this he said bro. Just filming just filming. Oh, no, and like he's just like doing like it's crazy Like I need that he ate the burger. That's what I got. Yeah, that's yeah He ate a he bought a burger for a homeless guy. And then when he was about to give it to him, he was like, hold up, let me see if it's good first. And he starts eating it in front of the homeless guy first. Nah, we need to lock that dude up.

Starting point is 02:03:35 He is locked up, bro. He got caught up because, or he's an EDP. God damn, bro. Yo, you be throwing that out crazy, bro. Bro, he's 23. He's in jail, so it's not that crazy. He was talking to a 13-year-old, and the message is leaked. He was having her send him squirt videos, and they linked up and they did stuff. Whoa.

Starting point is 02:03:57 Like, legit. Wow, you thinking inmates killing him with a rock as we speak? Holy. Holy. What's up with that? Do you know anything about the Colleen Ballinger shit? I really don't.

Starting point is 02:04:07 No. I really don't. Because she's got accusations, right? Yeah. Bro, you know what's crazy though? Like, don't get me wrong.

Starting point is 02:04:16 I hear a little bit about her accusations and they do sound bad. Yeah. But then it's like, I feel like niggas don't keep the same attitude for different people.

Starting point is 02:04:24 Like, you got like James Charles, like, who feel like niggas don't keep the same attitude for different people. Like, you got, like, James Charles, like, who's, like, actively, like, going after underage kids. He was. And I feel like people don't, like, there wasn't, like, this mass media attention on it like that Colleen girl. You know what I mean? And it's just, like, and it's, like, with the EDP, everybody was, like, demonizing him. But, like, when it's people like that or it's known EDPs, it's just, like, they joke about it, but, like, no one really addresses it. And it's just, like, weird to me.

Starting point is 02:04:51 Like, no one, like, no one, like. I didn't even hear about that James Charles shit. I thought it was, I think they made it look like it was, it was, it was nonsense. No, no, it's not. It was real. He was trying to, like, fuck underage kids. And, like, he would go for straight guys. James Charles is like...

Starting point is 02:05:07 The makeup influence. That's foul as fuck, too. No, allegedly out there. Nah, that shit fucking happens. Damn, really? Why do you think he coasted off? Too much money around him? Bro, I really don't know what it is, man.

Starting point is 02:05:24 Let's just say, hypothetically, it was me. Yeah. Bro, everybody, expose videos, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Like, bro, like, it's going to be like... And rightfully so.

Starting point is 02:05:33 The biggest thing. Rightfully so. But it's like, keep the same energy for everybody. Yeah, especially when it comes to molesting kids. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:05:41 Like, why are we treating other people different? Maybe, like, okay, just because they have a bigger platform, what the fuck? Come on, we know what that is, bro. What is it? Oh, he's white. Yeah. You think that's it?

Starting point is 02:05:56 I think that has a lot to do with it. You don't think the LGBTQ? That's what I wanted to say. That's what I thought it was. I was shocked when you did this and not. That's what I thought it was. I was shocked when you did this and not... That's what I thought it was. I don't know what it is, but they're going to get there. Have you guys seen that new movie, Son of Freedom?

Starting point is 02:06:12 No, you see it? No, no, no. His mom's first day. Oh, yeah, your mom definitely saw it. Bro, my mom, she was like, you need to shout it out on your YouTube. Bro, you know what you need to do is you need to take a little kid to that movie. Oh, my God. And then have a little kid to that movie and then have the little kid be like, help!

Starting point is 02:06:28 Help! And then you go, shut up, we're watching my movie. You might get shot for real. Don't do the pranks, bro. Maybe don't do it. Everybody that's seeing Sound of Freedom has five blocks on their mind. And they're not showing, they're blowing.

Starting point is 02:06:44 After you see that movie, like, I can't see you not being ready to just pull that shit off if you see that shit. Yeah. Got him killed.

Starting point is 02:06:52 That's crazy. Yeah, bro, chill. That's the craziest idea ever. Bro, you know what you got to do? You got to time when they're leaving the movie theater and then just have a white van

Starting point is 02:06:58 that you just have a little kid's, like, little, like, jelly sandals on the way out and then you just drag it in, close the door, and drive off. This is good. I'm gonna be part

Starting point is 02:07:08 of your creative team. How do you get Jideon killed? You're a bad prankster. You gonna do it with me? You're gonna dress like this. I'll be with, I'll rally up the... Would you be down to do a prank? Yeah, dude. 100%. I'll think of something.

Starting point is 02:07:23 You know what you should do? Sound of freedom. Hear me out. Hear me out Hear me out We call up that 19 year old Okay That's 14 Right? That looks She looks 14

Starting point is 02:07:34 Yeah Okay What Alex? Already I'm comfortable Okay so we move away from sound of freedom Yeah Or you could have the pedophile meet them at the sound of freedom showing That would be hilarious.

Starting point is 02:07:45 Oh, I got an idea. I got an idea. I got an idea. We go to a small town. Do you know Jason Aldean's song, Try That in a Small Town? Have you heard about this? No, I haven't. Oh, you haven't heard about this?

Starting point is 02:07:55 It got kicked off the country music. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why did it get a- Didn't they say it had like a racial undertone? Okay, so here's the kind of funny thing about it. If you look at the video, if you watch the video, they're very clever. He's basically saying Black Lives Matter and Antifa, try to do all that kicking in doors and breaking windows.

Starting point is 02:08:14 Try that in a small town, you're gonna get something for it. But the video shot very well because you never really see a black person. You only see, you see a black person, but they got like a shy steel on or something. So you don't know that they're black, but you will see white women spitting on a cop or a white person throwing something or white, whatever. So he's going to everybody. So look, here's the thing. He, no, no, no. This is the, my, this is the fucking funniest thing about the video.

Starting point is 02:08:39 He, without a doubt, there are more white people in the video than black people. There's no unequivocally. You see more white faces doing the fucked up shit than the black people. But everybody is going oh this video is about black people. And it's like what were you saying? It's like why

Starting point is 02:08:56 when you see people destroying things are you immediately going oh he's talking about black people. It's clearly white people doing fucked up shit as well. Why are you assuming that? Yeah, so it's like, you're putting it on Jason Aldean, but you're watching this video where there are white people destroying

Starting point is 02:09:12 shit as well, and you go, yeah, but what he really means is that black people are the problem, and he wants to lynch them. That's not because you're racist, that's because you think he's racist. I think it's a little bit of both. That's what I'm saying. If you hear someone with his accent talking about fucking stuff up,

Starting point is 02:09:27 you assume he's being racist. 100% assume he's being racist, but there's also a part of you that's like, you believe it because you can't assume a guy's being racist when you see white people in the video that he's talking about. You know how people say

Starting point is 02:09:40 anybody that has a Confederate flag is racist? Yeah. Like, I could never be under, be under that impression because, like, there was this girl that was in my elementary school. Yeah. And her dad, he straight up just had a fucking Confederacy flag just tattooed on him. Yeah. And, bro, when I tell you, this dude was one of the coolest guys ever, bro. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:01 Like, fucking, oh, bro, he was amazing. And, like, all she dated was black dudes. Yeah. All she dated was black dudes. That's how you rebel against your daddy. But he loved all of them, though.

Starting point is 02:10:11 Like, he loved all of them. That's how they do it. They trick you. Hey, come on this boat. It's gonna be fun over there. Come on. America's crazy. White people say, like,

Starting point is 02:10:20 oh, it's like heritage and stuff. Like, I'm more inclined to believe them. Like, you know what I mean? Here, I don't know that guy, so's like heritage and stuff. Like, I'm more inclined to believe them. Like, you know what I mean? Here, I don't know that guy, so he probably is not racist. He just might not know the history of the flag. So it's not like that flag existed pre-Civil War. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 02:10:36 The flag was an emblem of what they're fighting for, the state's rights to continue slavery. The flag was an emblem of what they're fighting for, the state's rights to continue slavery. So he might go, no, this is our heritage, and this is the Dixie, et cetera, because he's ignorant to where it comes from. People are going to be upset at this definition of it, but if you actually look at history, then— It is also a traitorous—if you're American pride, those were people that seceded from America. Yeah, true. I mean, it's some loser shit. Yeah, it's traitors. Yeah, it's silver medal.

Starting point is 02:11:06 Don't be American Pride and Confederate. Those are- Kind of contradictory. Yeah. But that doesn't mean that somebody can't have it and not really be aware of that and believe that it is representative of Southern Dixie culture and all those things that are not racist and beautiful about Southern Dixie culture. And he might believe that, and that's why he got it.

Starting point is 02:11:25 Not everybody that gets it or puts it up is saying we need slavery. You know what I'm saying? I love that way. I love conservative racism way more than liberal racism. Because it's straightforward? Yeah, I fucking hate liberal racism. The bigotry of low expectations. Well said.

Starting point is 02:11:42 The first time I experienced it. You're so well spoken, Jideon. Yeah. You're so articulate. Wow, that's the liberal racism, right? You know what the crazy thing was? This was my first time ever meeting Hasan, right? So I did my racist town video and Hasan reacted to it.

Starting point is 02:11:58 Yeah. And he's just talking the whole time. He's just like, this dude does not know how to handle this situation. He's doing it all wrong. And I'm talking to this guy that's a head KKK member. And he's like, no, no, no. He doesn't understand and stuff like that. And I was just like, bro, Hasan, who are you to tell me I don't understand?

Starting point is 02:12:15 I was like, what the fuck? And then like, oh, man, liberal racism is just the most condescending shit ever. Yeah, it's like. I'd rather someone just call me a nigger, like just straight up than just. You can't think for yourself. I'll tell you how to be a black person in this situation. I think even Malcolm X said that. He said the liberal is way worse than regular racist.

Starting point is 02:12:35 Yeah, he made some wolf comparison or something. Yeah. Wolves that don't show their teeth or something like that. That's interesting. That's part of the reason that bothered me about this video. I'm like, why are you masking the identity of the black people but not the white? Because I assume— If the message is supposed to be across the whole board, we all fuck up and do this type of stuff, like, just show—

Starting point is 02:12:56 I think that's a great point. I think that's a great point. I think that they're getting ahead of it, and they're going, all right, listen, I got this fucking hillbilly accent. I'm doing country music. They already think I'm racist. They, meaning, like'm doing country music. They already think I'm racist. They, meaning like the coastal liberals, they already think I'm racist. Because it's funny, I was watching, there's these four black dudes reacting to the video, right?

Starting point is 02:13:13 And they're like Southern black dudes, right? And they were vibing to this shit. And he was like, what's wrong? He was like, what's wrong? Like, they just say, don't fuck up the town. Try to have a small town. There was three out of four of them were vibing. And one of them saw one scene.

Starting point is 02:13:27 He was like dancing. He was like, hold on a second. I haven't seen it, so I don't know. Should we react to it? Let's watch it live. Andrew also had a great observation about the comments, which I don't know if you want. Oh, yeah. Out there or not.

Starting point is 02:13:38 But there is something fishy about the comments. We'll look. There's a little something fishy about the comments. Fishy. The overwhelming reaction to this video is he's dog Wilson and that he's going to round up black people. He's going to lynch him. That's the overwhelming reaction. So far, you haven't seen a black person. You guys say that one lyric that's a little wild. The roundup. Yeah. The one lyric is like,

Starting point is 02:13:56 I got my, I got a gun that my granddad gave me. Yeah. And one, cause one day they're going to round up. And I don't really know exactly what that means. Also, the first two lines or whatever are not about liberal white women in his mind. I know I grew up in the South. Sucker punch. Oh, whatever on the sidewalk. We all saw them black dudes knocking out motherfuckers playing the knockout game. Not that that's OK, but we know who he's talking about. And then carjacking old lady.

Starting point is 02:14:23 There's no white liberal Karen spitting in a cop's face in a carjack. Like, to me, immediately you said it. I know who you're talking about. I feel like you can't jump to conclusions like that because, like,

Starting point is 02:14:35 I feel like I jumped to a conclusion like that before and I low-key regret it with the Kyle Rittenhouse situation. Yeah. When I first heard about it, I was like, damn, he just shot, like, three black...

Starting point is 02:14:44 Because the way the media was talking about it, I'm like, damn, he shot three black guys. Like, that's fucked. No black guys. When I first heard about it, I was like, damn, he just shot like three black, because the way the media was talking about it, I'm like, damn, he shot three black guys. Like, that's fucked. No black guys. And then I look at it, I'm like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 02:14:50 And an EPD. And one of them was an EDP. And I was like. But like the way like the liberal media was like, oh, he wished they were black. And I was just like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 02:15:00 They're all white. What does that mean? He wishes they were black. Exactly. That's what they were saying. So like, I don't know. I feel like that's kind of like the same with this. Like, He wishes they were black. Exactly. That's what they were saying. So, like, I don't know. I feel like that's kind of like the same with this. Like, he wishes they were black.

Starting point is 02:15:07 I mean, we heard the whole song. I mean, like, we heard a verse. What I'm saying is if I'm objectively looking at it, right, if this was a K-pop band to do it, not like a fucking country music white guy, if it was a K-pop band to do it, I would not immediately assume that he's talking about black people. The overwhelming assumption is he's talking about black people. You don't even see a black person in the video. We can't at least go look at it and go this is a little odd. Personally, I really don't see it. It just to me it looks like any other country video, but more political.

Starting point is 02:15:40 But I mean, I'm looking at him like he knows his audience. He knows it's like middle america white folks probably or just like country folks and he's just that resent the big towns resent new york resent la or like fuck those big places they think they're better than us well i'm gonna make i'm gonna make you feel like none of that shit could happen that could be possible they do resent the fuck out of big cities and all that and that these just might be big city activities i just felt like the first two lines were not karen specific and then also what you pointed out about the comments was basically it's a lot of so look at the comments go down this is what i thought was kind of interesting it's like all of the first

Starting point is 02:16:19 few comments are like name and then four numbers and that I'm a minority and I still love this message, right? And typically if we see a username with a bunch of numbers behind it, what do we assume? Is it not a real account, right? I checked these out. A lot of these are old. They're like this account is from like 2017. So it's like just do you buy a bunch of old accounts?

Starting point is 02:16:42 Is this like a bot farm thing? I feel like that's like really looking into it. I'm just saying, the comments seem to be like a PR move. It's like, hey. I didn't know about the situation, but I did see a bunch of conservative black people talking

Starting point is 02:16:57 about it. Bro, I'm telling you, if my mom watched this, she would... She'd be like, hell yeah. Yeah. Don't those fucking protests? My mom was pissed. Yeah. My mom was really pissed.

Starting point is 02:17:12 I remember I went to one. I went to one of the marches doing the George Floyd thing. And I was just thinking, oh, man, it's about to look like Atlanta out here. But, bro, it was so many other races. Bro, literally black people were outnumbered. It was more other races than black people and i'm just like damn like you know i feel like i feel like whenever like black people have their revolutions now we have to include everybody but like when other races have their revolutions, if Asian people were

Starting point is 02:17:45 doing the Asian, stop Asian hate march, it would just be all Asian people out there supporting themselves. When it's Mexican people, I think some Mexican people, they shut down a bridge. It was all Mexican people.

Starting point is 02:17:56 But it's like when it's black people, we also have to include, don't forget we have to include the LGBT community. We got to include them, them, them. It can't just be black people like it was in the 60s. It's just, I think that's a good thing, though. But I think white people really want to prove that, a lot of white people really want to prove they don't hate black people, that they're not racist.

Starting point is 02:18:16 It's really important that they prove they're not racist to black people. It's less important that they prove they're not racist to Indians or Asians. But it's like, how can you take care of yourself when you have other people taking care of you for you? If you're outnumbered at your own marches- Talk that conservative shit. But I mean, we're outnumbered in this country. Okay, yeah, we're outnumbered in this country, but we have the most spending power. We have economic power, but we're just not using it in the right way.

Starting point is 02:18:41 No, but I mean, if you're talking about a march, it's a good thing if you see a good actual representation of the country out there. Cuz that means like, hey, look, the majority of the country feels this way. But when it was- It's a real problem if it's not just one group of people. What's changing now when it was all black people back in the 60s marching, things are getting changed, reforms are actually being made. What was a change that was made for the black community during the George Floyd

Starting point is 02:19:04 march? are being made. What was a change that was made for the black community during the George Floyd march? I mean, there has been some police reform that has been passed in legislation, but I would say a big part of the whole BLM situation that hurt the movement a lot. Because now people are like, oh, this movement's fucked up. And now they stop caring, stop donating. And so that hurt. And the big thing about change is that there was more legislation to be made back in the day because racism was more prevalent in the justice system. Now, there's nothing really that you can change in the justice system. There's nothing that's ingrained in racist right now that you have to remove. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you basically, you can't put this into the justice system. Hey, cops, don't ever do anything racist.

Starting point is 02:19:46 You already tell them that. It's already illegal. Yeah. So what were the main things black people couldn't do whenever, back in the 60s? What were the main things they couldn't do? Go to the same schools. They were getting lesser education. Okay, lesser education.

Starting point is 02:19:58 Walk by a firehouse without getting hosed down. Yeah, yeah. That was unfortunate. They couldn't get certain jobs, all this and that. Well, yeah, there's, I mean, when does, if we're being serious, when is segregation come down?

Starting point is 02:20:11 The 60s. Yeah, 60s, I think. But then, 65? Johnson, right? What's the most incarcerated group of people in America? Per capita?

Starting point is 02:20:20 Yeah. Black people. Black people. But then, when you're a felon, what abilities are taken away from you? Can't vote. Can't vote. But to Andrew's point, that's subtle racism that people are not going to be as easily, it's not going to be as easy to legislate.

Starting point is 02:20:36 Hey, let's not, there could be some subtle racism that's 13th Amendment shit or whatever that's like, hey, let's just lock up more black people. It was legal to have separate schools for black and white people. That was legal at a time. And then they made it illegal. So that's a big legislative change that you made. Like buying houses. Black people couldn't buy houses. I know this might sound a little racist, but I feel like segregation

Starting point is 02:20:57 was actually kind of good for black people. There's an argument for that economically, I've heard, because it basically made the community build itself up without competition from the white community. You get like black Wall Streets and stuff. Exactly, right? You're building up

Starting point is 02:21:13 its own. Everything is helping one another and that liquidity is staying within the community. Whereas once you desegregate, a lot of those black dollars can be spent on these white products. I think the main issue with separate but equal is it wasn't ever equal. You know how everybody says it was white people that destroyed Black Wall Street when they burned it down?

Starting point is 02:21:33 Technically, they did burn it down, but I watched the whole documentary on it. They rebuilt it, and they actually rebuilt it better. But the thing that really killed Black Wall Street was when segregation was done away with, when you were able to shop in white stores and the Black dollar left the community, and that's what brought it down. I've heard arguments about it. I'm sure there's... You were at that Dr.

Starting point is 02:21:54 Umar speech a long time ago. No, but it's just real. Even when you look at Dr. King's last speeches before he died. It was all about economic inequality. Yeah, he like low-key, I think he said, I feel like I brought my people into a burning house. Yeah. But even he realized like- I've integrated my people into a burning house. And I feel like the only way black people

Starting point is 02:22:15 can really get independence is be independent. Financially, you're saying? Financially and as a community, we have to be together, we have to work together. Financially and as a community, we have to be together, we have to work together. If you go to an Asian community, they all help each other. But when you go to a black community, how many black owned businesses besides maybe a restaurant are actually owned by black people? Depends which, I think when we look at black people in America, we look at them as a monolith, right? But if you look at Caribbean black people in America, they do have a lot of businesses. You look at African from Africa in America communities, they are. You go to Atlanta and you're sitting like a city of African Americans, Caribbeans, Africans,

Starting point is 02:22:57 absolutely thriving. So these things do exist. It's a cultural thing. It's not all black people in the world, it's just more so black people in America. It's a culture of ownership. And once that culture of ownership is established and other people see it as a possibility, they believe they can do it. There's that video of you I was watching where you're saying it was really important for you to see KSI cuz you saw a black creator doing what you were doing and it made it possible for you.

Starting point is 02:23:21 And young kids that are black and they grow up in Atlanta and their dentist is black their lawyer is black their tax guy is black it just is like oh yeah I guess I'll be a dentist or I'll be a lawyer I'll be a tax person like it's just so readily available significant example but you didn't see Indian comedians before Russell Peters and that just becomes so many here's the example you've heard of like what is it a three minute mile four four four minute mile like nobody could break the four minute mile one person breaks it and then like immediately after Because it's possible. Here's the example. Have you heard of, what is it, the three-minute mile? Four-minute mile. The four-minute mile. Like, nobody could break the four-minute mile. One person breaks it, and then, like, immediately after, fucking 20 people break it. You just need to know it's possible in order for you to do it. A lot of people need to feel that way.

Starting point is 02:23:54 And this is why it's the importance of representation. So it's like, at a march, having all these voices speak on behalf of the black community is important because their voices are like very influential so it's like you don't it may be the message might not permeate permeate the entire culture if it's just from black people but if it comes from all these different faces that's what that's the problem though when instead of you hear from a black person you don't listen but when a white person says it then oh okay now i'm listening i feel like that's when the problem is yeah but sometimes like you need that just to permeate the community and then they'll be more open you'll never be successful there's validity i think to what you're saying which is we should empower our own we should uphold our own we should strengthen

Starting point is 02:24:36 our own we should keep the dollar in our community but that that doesn't negate the fact that it helps when there's a big systemic issue if other groups of people are saying no for real this is a problem this isn't just a group of people complaining that's interesting though i hear what you're saying like are you conditioned to only care about it once white people start caring about it and that's your concern you're not you wish it wasn't that way yeah yeah so i think you guys are both both agreeing. There's different ways of making things happen. But I think that like, I think what's happening now, especially your generation, like you're growing up where a lot of more things are completely normal for black people that just weren't like, say, my generation. Like there was one black guy that skateboarded in my generation.

Starting point is 02:25:22 For real? You know what I mean? Not even for real. It was the dude in Tony Haro Pro Skater. It was like he was the only one. Now, it's like, I don't even think I see white kids skateboarding anymore.

Starting point is 02:25:29 You know what I mean? There's gonna be a lot of black kids now. Black and Mexican. It's just like, yeah, this is just a normal thing. Yeah, like skateboarding is whatever.

Starting point is 02:25:36 You see black Republicans now like on YouTube. You just see it. And it's not like, holy, how could you? What is going on? It's like, yeah, I grew up religious and this kind of of is a lot more similar to, like, my belief systems. I'm a little bit more conservative, so I believe in it.

Starting point is 02:25:50 So I'm seeing that kind of progress culturally happen. But that shit takes decades, bro. That's the other thing. It's like we know the things that are wrong, and we're going, let's change it immediately. But you need that shit to seep into your brain a little bit. The trauma of all those things are still there. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like a lot of coaches have trauma, you know?

Starting point is 02:26:09 And it's like they bounce back. You know what I mean? At some point, it's like you can't blame your trauma forever. Like you've got to make your future better. You know what I mean? There's some people that had some fucked up childhoods that, yeah, it definitely didn't affect them for the rest of their life, but they made the best out of it to make sure that their future is straight. Yeah. And it's like, you know, when is that accountability going to be taken?

Starting point is 02:26:32 And I feel like it's more of like a handout right now than—and then, like, you know, I'm wanting to speak because it's like, you know, I'm not doing the most, but it's just like, you know, I—like, me saying this stuff is like oh you're a coon oh you like blah blah blah you're just trying to appease white people it's like it's not even like for white people or nobody's just like just the god honest truth you know yeah if you're if you're a drug addict what is your mom gonna tell you like you gotta help yourself you know there's nobody she can go get to come talk to you it's gonna knock you out of it i think also you you're just younger so you're further along in the progress like all of us had friends whose parents maybe not parents definitely grandparents grew up in segregation like vividly remembering segregation for you your mom was probably what born in 70s 80s whatever it's like yeah no i i don't really i grew up in a wasn't

Starting point is 02:27:20 great but it wasn't my dad my dad's. My dad was born in 47. Damn. Oh, shit. Yeah, so I would talk to my dad about a lot of stuff. He would tell me, like, he was in Vietnam, and he was in the Air Force, and he was working on a jet. And, like, he was, like, 30 feet away or something. And the guy, it was this white dude, he turned on the exhaust from the jet, and it flew him back, just the heat from it. Burnt his shirt and just and just like made him tumble and like he was just telling me about the racism like when

Starting point is 02:27:50 Martin Luther King was assassinated he was saying like how all the white people were like out there like celebrating and stuff like that and like he would just tell me stories about that and it's just like damn but then he would also tell me like the good stuff like you know he was like there was also some guys like they were really good dudes

Starting point is 02:28:04 well I think two things can be true I think it's like damn. But then he would also tell me the good stuff. He was like, there was also some guys that were really good dudes. I think two things can be true. I think it's like you can point out the problems, you can acknowledge the past shit, and you can realize that the only person that's going to make change in your life is you and the people around you. And that's a good

Starting point is 02:28:22 mindset to have. Personal accountability and just like, yo, I'm going to make the best of my situation, whatever. There might be some obstacles here, but I'm going to get past them. Because just talking about them isn't going to make my life any better. It's not going to make my family's life any better, etc. It's a better mindset to have than to be like,

Starting point is 02:28:36 well, I'm just never going to make it because I'm not born in the right whatever. Yeah, it's like you got lung cancer or whatever it is and the doctor is like, well, let's talk about all the cigarettes that you smoke to get that lung cancer and you're like no no i know that that is fucking horrible but i'd also like you to give me some cures for this fucking lung cancer right now like let's do something right now what are you like racially yeah uh chinese rush hour i'm white i'm white. You're white.

Starting point is 02:29:06 What kind of neighborhood did you grow up in? I grew up in the East Village in Manhattan. Was it nice? Yeah. It was nice. It was really nice. Did you grow up around a lot of black people or was it mostly white? I would say pretty diverse.

Starting point is 02:29:23 America's mostly white. But the amount of black people I had in my life Was probably way more Than the average white person in America Put it that way Like my high school was half Asian Really? So like we were all kind of like minorities In our high school

Starting point is 02:29:39 It was crazy That's how my high school was It was like white, Asian, Indian, Hispanic That's Houston versus hell too Where did you grow like white, Asian, Indian, Hispanic. That's Houston, but versus hell, too. Where did you grow up? I grew up in the Clear Lake area. Okay, yeah, I know. But when I was in middle school,

Starting point is 02:29:50 I mean, not middle school. When I was in elementary school, it was all white. So I had no black friends. It was just all white people. That's why you got bullied a lot. No, I just didn't get... You know what the crazy thing about it? I didn't get bullied until really middle school

Starting point is 02:30:04 was when I met black people. And they're like, why do you talk like that? Why do you talk like you're white? And, like, it made me, like, self-conscious about myself. I was like, damn. And so, like, I would try to, like, enunciate things better, like, different, like, moralhood and stuff. Oh, wow. And it kind of gave me, like, an existential crisis because I was just like.

Starting point is 02:30:22 Who am I? Yeah, who am I? You're not white enough for the white kids,? you're not white enough for the white kids but you're not black enough for the black kids exactly so like that really fucked me up

Starting point is 02:30:28 and then like I finally just learned like bro I just gotta be me like I can't like act like nobody or try to be somebody else it's just like

Starting point is 02:30:35 it's just not how it is and um yeah because I went I went to the school it was an elementary school my friend asked me to talk to

Starting point is 02:30:42 and I asked all the kids there there was all black kids and I was like what do you guys want to be when you grow up? And they were all saying either like an athlete or a rapper or entertainer or something along those shorts. And I was like, man, why do they all just want to be that? And I just started thinking about it. It's like that's all they see, you know. Their parents are probably like working at a grocery store or something like that.

Starting point is 02:31:03 So it's like, you know, they don't want to be a grocery store clerk so they're on their phones on youtube they're seeing like NBA young boy they're seeing LeBron they're like that's what I want to be and it's just like you know if you if your dad like you know with Asian and Indian people it's like most of their families are like doctors so it's like generational doctors it's like oh man I want to be a doctor even if you don't even when you grow up and you realize no I don't really want to be a doctor it's like, oh man, I want to be a doctor. Even if you don't, even when you grow up and you realize, nah, I don't really want to be a doctor. It's like, you already have like a perfect leeway to go into something that's like really successful. There's an expectation even. Yeah. It's like, yo, you better be. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to be. And having that expectation can be a burden. Like you probably went through that.

Starting point is 02:31:41 It's like, oh fuck, I'm a failure if I don't become a a doctor but it's going to push more people into success yeah i feel incredibly uncomfortable it doesn't happen all the time that that'd be lying on my part but there's so many things are like yo you you really convinced me not to pursue medicine i'm like well i don't know don't do that yeah that's way safer your failure now is somewhat influenced by me i don't want that i kind of love the cultural like because we usually get told you can't do that. You're not going to do that. Just stick with the books. And the books is a great, like, way for our, my grace to, like,

Starting point is 02:32:12 progress in America. And so, like, the reversal for us is, like, stick with the basketball or stick with the rap. And the problem with the rap and the basketball is that there's a lot of doctors, yo. There's a lot of doctors. If you want to be a doctor, you can be a doctor.

Starting point is 02:32:26 Yeah, you just can't. There's so many compared to rappers and basketball players and football players. And then even if they do make it, it's like, after the career's over,

Starting point is 02:32:35 a lot of them don't even be that good afterwards. Yeah, yeah. Like, they spent their whole life just trying to be a football player, then they get a career

Starting point is 02:32:42 and an injury, and it's like, you know, they get suicidal. Yeah. And it's like, it's like oh they got so many fucking head injuries from playing football yeah yeah it's tricky that's why people in atlanta are thriving because you see a lot of successful black people doing a multitude of things yeah so now the kids are like oh shit i want to be a business i want to be an engineer i want to be that yeah and so we just need that we just need more awareness more of our community thriving.

Starting point is 02:33:07 And so the younger generation can see like, oh, wow, there's more options for me. Also, we should be clear here. When everybody's young, everybody wants to be a rapper, a basketball player, or an entertainer. When I was young, I wanted to be an engineer. Really? Yeah. What? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:33:24 How old were you when you knew what an engineer was? I was in the third grade. What? Yeah. What do you mean? How old were you when you knew what an engineer was? I was in the third grade. I was nine. And what type of engineer? I wanted to be a mechanical engineer. To build bridges or something like that?

Starting point is 02:33:32 Just to work? Build a wall to keep those fucking Mexicans out. I just wanted to be a part of a team to build something and come up with something. Because I had did a research project on oh man i forget his name but he made the steam engine there's a black guy thomas thomas i made a report on him and i fell in love with it because like it was just like he was going through all these like racial things and he was able to invent something that was useful. Yeah. And it was like in lubricate.

Starting point is 02:34:06 Oh, Elijah McCoy. Elijah McCoy. Yeah. I did a, I did a research project on Elijah McCoy. And I think he made like a lubricant that would, uh, cause I think they had to like go out and like grease the tracks themselves, but he found something like to do it itself and it would like lubricate the whole thing. So that way the train wouldn't have to stop. And he invented that. And I thought that was like so bad-ass. And I and i was like oh man i want to come up with something like that's innovative and can like help society move forward and that's what i wanted to do and after i did my research project on him yeah and how important uh do you think it was that he was black i think it was huge bro i think interesting i think it was huge yeah and then um and my mom my mom she would

Starting point is 02:34:43 always say this to me and like and loki gave me ptsd but she would always say this to me, and, like, and low-key gave me PTSD, but she would always be, like, education is the only way out for black people. She was, like, education is the only way out. She would just always say that. She was, like, if you don't get a good education, you're not going to be successful. And then, like, when I was, like, in high school, my senior year, working on my videos and stuff, she was telling me how, like, all my friends were going to pass me up, and I was just going to be a bum because I wasn't, like, you know, doing my college work and stuff and everything. And, like, I just knew in my head, I was like, bro, like, education is not the only way out. You know what I mean? It is the safest way for upward mobility.

Starting point is 02:35:16 Yeah. Without a doubt. It's a guaranteed ticket to get to middle class. Yeah. You will, yeah, upper middle. And, like, I don't, like, I'm not mad about that she did that because I know she just wanted me to be successful. 100%. But it's just like, you know, when it's just like, education's the, when someone's just telling you this is the only way for you to be successful.

Starting point is 02:35:33 If you don't do this, you will be a failure in life. You will not succeed. It's, it's tricky, especially when it's coming from like home and someone so close to you but like if you had to devise a plan for all black people in america for upward class mobility and you were like yo we can only pick one thing it's not youtube yeah yeah yeah get your ass in fucking school you know what i mean like you know it's like the same thing like kids want to be entertained i'm gonna entertain you're the one percent bro i'm seeing me it's like oh i want to be like him him but people do the hustles they know

Starting point is 02:36:06 I'm pretty sure I think it's like 85% of nail salons are owned by Vietnamese women and it's because there was one Vietnamese woman I think it was like Lucy Liu

Starting point is 02:36:15 someone double check that Lucy Liu was an actress in Charlie's Angels yeah literally the actress was trying to put people on other Vietnamese people to come over

Starting point is 02:36:22 and knew someone in the nail hustle it was like oh yeah do nails and literally it's from like one person that it's like 85 of nail salons are vietnamese that's hilarious because one person put them on a hustle was like do this you can have a life in america and then look who are the most people that go into nail salons black everybody black women well i mean no they do like that but white women are up in the nail salon, too. Yeah, but I don't know.

Starting point is 02:36:46 Every time I go, because I be getting mani-pedis. I be seeing them, black women, always in there. Black women always make sure they get their nails right. Because I remember, I grew up in the church. So, like, everybody would make sure their nails are right for Sunday, all this and that. So, like, you know, a white woman could get away with oh you know what i was just painting myself i put some red nail polish yeah yeah i'm like oh hell no i'm not gonna put no they get their acrylics yeah and you so there's there's always the parts like you

Starting point is 02:37:16 want that invested within the community and obviously as a white dude it's probably even annoying to hear this but i wish that everybody's identity was wrapped around America so that nobody felt uncomfortable investing in an Asian nail salon or a white this or an Indian that. Like, I wish that we didn't feel like in some way we're holding our people back if we went to another race to indulge in their product or whatever it was yeah but i'm sure on some level you're like if we did we could have upward mobility which is what we need i mean i guess an example i could think of is like let's say you have a family at home and they're starving and you need to make sure your family's good you gotta make sure their family across the street they just have a full course meal going on. And they invited you only, but you can't bring your family with you. And you go over there and eat and you fill up and, you know, you have a good time with them.

Starting point is 02:38:11 Is your family back home getting any benefit from you eating good? Great point. I always used to hear these anti-Semitic, like the rhetoric or whatever is like, oh, Jewish people just support themselves. They only support their own. And I was always like, that's what every minority says they want to do and then never actually does. Like, this is what we all say we want to do. They're just the only people executing that mission. And then if we believe they control everything, which I don't, but I do believe they're successful, that's a big reason why probably.

Starting point is 02:38:38 I actually did the research on that. I was like, why do everybody say Jewish people just work with Jewish people? Then come to find out, like, back in, like, I think it was, like, the 1100s or 1200s, they were heavily persecuted, I think, by the Muslims or something like that. Where they couldn't trade with anybody. Like, they couldn't do anything with anybody else. So they had to just work within themselves. So that's why they have that culture of just keeping it in their race because they, like, legally couldn't do it with other races or else they would be persecuted. And so I guess it just trickled down

Starting point is 02:39:07 like generation to generation. And then what happens with that? You also get a culture of ownership. Yeah. When you have to create your own local business, your own local grocery store, your own local whatever, so that you guys can have something in the community. Now that becomes the expectation.

Starting point is 02:39:20 Hey, you see how Jewish people are so affluent now, and then it's like you look at black people. Blacks were one of the lowest incarcerated during segregation. They also had the highest percent in marriage and all this and that during the segregation period. And then once segregation goes away, they become the most incarcerated, then have the highest divorce rate and all that. So it shows when you're stuck. Now, people are going to look at that like you're making an argument for segregation. What you're actually saying is if the community supports itself. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:39:56 Then it can thrive. Yeah. And then it's like any community will trade with another. There's no community that would just only work with themselves, you know? Yeah. You want to export your culture. Like imagine only black people could watch your videos. You would have way less views.

Starting point is 02:40:07 Exactly. You've benefited from integration where anyone can consume it. China didn't trade with America. China wouldn't be nowhere as near as successful as they are. And American businesses too. Everything we wear. Yeah, you want that trade. And that's the other thing. Then you don't have to feel as like I understand how black people feel annoyed when their culture gets monetized by someone outside of the culture.

Starting point is 02:40:31 Because it's like, bro, can we get some bread off of this? Like that, that whereas like you want to be the first person to export your shit. So if you're Indian, you're like, yo, British people don't take all our spices. Let us sell you the spices. You can make some money back home. We'll make some money over here. But if you snatch up the spices and then you get bread twice, that's frustrating. So I can see that, like, if you've got some white ladies that are, like, selling the best way to fucking do cornrows in your hair, it's like, hold on,

Starting point is 02:40:58 hold on, hold on. Can we get that money first? It's like if white people started wearing do-rags or pop. White people invented do-rags right now imagine pop you just gotta hop on it you gotta like when you think of a good idea get a trademark get a copyrighted uh did you know uh jack daniels was uh steelilled by a black guy? Oh, really? It was distilled, yeah. Yeah, that's right. You ever heard of Lewis and Clark? The Explorers?

Starting point is 02:41:32 They were black? No, no, no. But, you know... That's some brave shit, bro. Lewis, Clark, Sacagawea, and York. You ever heard of York? No. So York was this black guy that was with them. So it was either Lewis or Clark, but he was really good with the woods and everything.

Starting point is 02:41:51 He knew how to traverse. So when they were going on their journey, it was either Lewis or Clark. They asked York to come with them. And York said, yes, I'll come with you, but I want to get freedom for my family. So they literally said if it wasn't for York, their mission would not have been successful. And he was the first black person to see the western

Starting point is 02:42:11 coast of America. Get out of here. And he helped them, yeah, that's him right there. He helped them traverse everything. Got their food for them and everything. And they made it all the way over there. And then when they made it back, guess what they did? He asked for his freedom. He was like made it all the way over there. And then when they made it back, guess what they did? Didn't freeze him.

Starting point is 02:42:26 He asked for his freedom. He was like, oh, the deal's a deal. They whooped him, and then they sold him away from his family. Get the fuck out of here. Damn. That's the story of York. Lewis and Clark. And it's like, they're huge names,

Starting point is 02:42:39 but you never hear about York. Yeah. Yeah, they sold him. Like, that sucks. Lewis and Clark are the ones that did it? Yeah. That's crap. Assholes. Yeah, I sold him. Like, that sucks. Like, Lewis and Clark are the ones that did it? Yeah. That's crass. I don't know which one of them owned him, but it was one of the two.

Starting point is 02:42:51 Yo, that's crazy. So you're like a real history dude. I love history. What's your bag? If you were to do trivia, like one-on-one against anyone, what's like your... Probably like American history, but I'm just trying to get into European. You know, I feel like that's a little bit more rich because it's just thousands of years.

Starting point is 02:43:09 Who's the most interesting president? The most interesting president? I think Lyndon B. Johnson. He would show his dick to people. I thought that was pretty funny. Didn't he have a car that could go underwater or something like that?

Starting point is 02:43:23 He had a car that could go underwater or something like that? A what? He had like a car that could go underwater or some like aqua car or some shit like that. Probably. This guy in cars, bro. Yeah, bro. He's trying to make cars. But I would say probably the most interesting is like JFK. Why JFK? It's just like.

Starting point is 02:43:38 Counterculture? Just the mystery around his murder is so rich in and of itself. Yeah. Then also just his life. Him over here banging KGB spies. Oh, yeah. And literally making an underground tunnel to sneak whores and coke and stuff in. It's just like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 02:43:54 It sounds like a Seth Rogen movie. Like El Chapo. Look into his dad. His dad? His dad is the real G. Really? He's the top G? He's the original top G?

Starting point is 02:44:04 Honestly, if you really want to know who the original top G is, like an actual gangster, like mafia. Really? And he decides my son is going to be president. And it's not JFK. It's his other son who gets killed, I believe, in war. Really? So then he goes, okay, fine. This son will be president.

Starting point is 02:44:27 And he was like a bootlegger or something like that. What was he into? Like legit illegal gangster, like an actual gangster. That was the tie with the mafia, because you've heard of the Kennedy ties with the mafia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which some say is how he got merged or whatever. But then he goes, okay, JFK is gonna be the president. And they, I think, fabricate a war hero story for him.

Starting point is 02:44:47 But the whole thing is designed. He's the great, I think it's Joseph Kennedy. He's the great architect of this family. And this is back in the day when you could have these legacy families. You're talking about, if you want to go into European history, you look at these legacy families where it happened. You look at the Rothschild banking family, the Habsburgs. Have you heard of the Habsburgs? I haven't heard about them. Bro, it's like one family found a way to be king of every fucking country in Europe.

Starting point is 02:45:12 Really? And it's like, and you look at family a little differently. You hear people's last names in America and it is what it is. But out there in Europe, they maybe have a little bit closer association to it because your last name might've meant you were the fucking prince of some shit.

Starting point is 02:45:26 Yeah. Right? Certain names in America, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, there's a couple. Yeah. I would say there are certain, there are different ways to have empires. It's not just the fucking sultan or on this. Sometimes it's a financial empire. Sometimes it's a fucking drug empire.

Starting point is 02:45:42 You ever heard of the centralized bank? Oh, now we're talking, my boy. Now we're talking. Can you pull this up? I'll never forget this. I never... LBJ's car that can go in the water. Oh, hilarious. That's tough. Apparently he would prank people. That's a good prank video. He would take everyone

Starting point is 02:45:58 in the car and then accidentally turn down into a creek and then drive around the water. There you go. Yeah, I forgot about that. And they'd be like, we're going to sink. And then they would float. It's kind of of fine what am i looking at oh uh joe biden talks about centralized bank so um this was during like the 2020 election yeah like him is that video yeah yeah it's on youtube it's hard to find but um it was uh one of those presidential debates and him and trump were arguing and like trump was like talking over joe b and him and Trump were arguing. And Trump was talking over Joe Biden. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:46:26 And then Joe, he got frustrated. He was like, that's why you're going to lose. And he was like, why, Joe? Why am I going to lose? He's like, because we have the media. We have the press. We have the centralized bank. And then he said it.

Starting point is 02:46:40 And he just put his head down. And it was just quiet for a solid five seconds. And then the mediator, he just changed the subject. And I was like, I've heard about it. But then once he said something about it, I was like, damn. Well, central banking systems, there's a lot of lore around them. Yeah. There's a lot of lore.

Starting point is 02:46:58 And if you look into that Rothschild name that I said, that, I mean, the conspiracies are that they are the ones who've created central banks around Europe and then in America. There's a fire book called The Monster of Jekyll Island. Oh, yeah, where they decide to do the central bank. Apparently, they kind of all meet, all the big players within American banking all kind

Starting point is 02:47:18 of meet on this one little spot and come up with the idea. Now, there might be benefits to a central bank. I don't know enough about finances to know. That's how America got free. It's because they went to the central bank in order to fund their war against England. Well, who is the central bank? Who funds the war? That's the million dollar question. Because England also has a central bank. And what if they're owned by the same family? Yeah. That's where- And you play both sides.

Starting point is 02:47:44 And what if you play both sides? Because the bank, during a war, is lending an unlimited amount of money. You gotta pay it back, so you're always gonna win. And whose side are you gonna fund? You're gonna fund that winner, so you gotta make sure that the people you lend the money to win. Like, that's... Yeah. Whatever.

Starting point is 02:48:00 Now we're getting into fun... Or you just lend it to both sides, hedge your bet, and you always come out on top. This is the shit I'd really be interested in. I don't know too much about that stuff. And if the banks are heavily invested on one side winning a war, and the banks also allegedly control policy in America, if enough money is lent to one side, maybe those banks will leverage the politicians to make sure that America stays in that war until it's won. And now we have Ukraine.

Starting point is 02:48:41 Ooh. Now, I don't know if that's the case, but who knows? What if JP Morgan has a billion dollars or a few billion dollars or 40 billion, whatever it is in there? And it's like, yo, if they lose, I'm not getting my 40 billion back. So, hey, we're going to stay clapping them Russian cheeks until we win and I can get my 40 billion. I don't know. This is allegedly. We're just throwing things out here. He's in his money bag. He's in his hotel.

Starting point is 02:49:03 He's in his money bag. I am a total hotel when it comes to several banks. When it comes to the Fed, I just go straight to the Titanic. You're just throwing things out here. He's in his money bag. He's in his hotel. He's in his money bag. I am a total hotel when it comes to several banks. When it comes to the Fed, I just go straight to the Titanic one. Oh, this is wild. This is fire, man. Oh, conspiracies are the best. What was it? It was the guy, he owned America, and they were trying to get it from him.

Starting point is 02:49:18 You want it. Let's go. And they all pulled out last minute. Last minute. He was on the boat. Who knows? Yeah. And then that shit sunk. I don't think that that's the first time.

Starting point is 02:49:27 That's the first thing I thought about with the Titan sub that went down. Yeah, what are they invested in? The first thing I thought about was the Pakistani billionaire. He's on the board of something. Really? Gotta be. I'm just like, yo, if you're coming from a place where you have these people that have unbelievable extreme wealth, and there's unbelievable extreme poverty and there are other people vying for that

Starting point is 02:49:50 wealth. And I don't know if he's online for something else. It may be somebody else who was in the submarine, but I looked at the other guys and they didn't look that crazy. Like one guy sold like private jets or something like that. Another guy did something else, I forget. But I was like, maybe there's another Pakistani family that needs that guy who may be the heir out of the fucking way. Yeah. took his fucking kid and his kid is there as well so the

Starting point is 02:50:10 heir and the heir yeah i don't know this is all conspiratorial but i could see somebody but they had the owner of the company on the plane or on the sub too oh yeah that's kind of tough though who knows bro i mean the owner's not gonna know you don't care if that owner of the sub goes down but he's on it though my point you're not convincing the owner you're convincing the guy who's ratcheting the shit shut you're the convincing the guy who's doing the fixing on it you're convincing the engineer you're you're paying a couple hundred grand to the guy who just you know tightens the screws come on a mil bro maybe who knows i'm just saying this is like the prison guard who fell asleep. You vote? Yeah, I'll vote, kind of. I mean, I'm not that active.

Starting point is 02:50:50 But like, perfect example, like in Oklahoma, right? That movie that's coming out with the fucking... The moon something of the... There's this movie Leonardo DiCaprio's in, New Scorsese movie. It's about these Native Americans... Flower moon or something? Yeah, something of the flower moon. Native Americans in Oklahoma, you know, they're pushed all around the country, these poor tribes, and they're pushed onto the useless land.

Starting point is 02:51:07 And all of a sudden, they find oil in the land. That's a true story. And then this native group becomes killers of the flower moon. This native group becomes the richest group of people per capita in America. Oh, wow. Unbelievable wealth because America pushed them. You know that eagle came in and did some screeching? Ooh.

Starting point is 02:51:23 Ooh. You bet it did. So then people started murking. It was deaths out of nowhere. And I think they said that's where the FBI started. They're starting to investigate what the fuck's going on here. Did you ever see the speech that John F. Kennedy gave before he passed where he was talking to the media and talking about how the media needs to have unlimited access to all government information so all American people are informed? And that was one of the last speeches he gave and he was talking about how there's like secret organizations and he's ever seen that yeah and what what specifically did he want to disband

Starting point is 02:51:56 uh the cia oh did he now yeah he said what he went to did he now breaking into a thousand pieces and like blow it in the wind or something like that? You know who wanted to? I think he actually was successful in taking down the Fed or our central bank. Andrew Jackson. Really? Now, if you look at how Andrew Jackson is remembered throughout history, he's remembered as one of the most ruthless, disgusting, horrible presidents ever. Really? Yes.

Starting point is 02:52:21 Now, why is that? If we're being conspiracy. Was he the one that paid off the debt, the national debt? He made. I think we are at surplus. Really? Yes, now why is that? If we're being conspiracy. Was he the one that paid off the debt, the national debt? He made sure, I think we were at surplus. Really? With him because he got rid of the Fed.

Starting point is 02:52:30 But debt isn't necessarily bad, we exist on debt, it's part of the capital. There was one president he paid off the entire national debt. Well, I think that under Clinton, we were in a surplus. We had a budget surplus,

Starting point is 02:52:42 I think. But I think the debt, I think, was under Andrew Jackson. For real. And if you look at the way he's remembered in history, like, oh, what a vile racist. And it's like, bro, some of these presidents owned people. Yeah. He wasn't any more vile than the ones. No one talks about Thomas Jefferson or George Washington.

Starting point is 02:52:58 I think he did fuck over the Native Americans. Oh, yeah, he was horrible. Obviously. I think that was Trail of Tears, right? Yeah, I think, yeah. So, like, what they do is they put this hyper-focus hyper focus on that like all the other presidents weren't also fucking over the native america i don't know if this is just my education but i didn't hear anything bad about andrew jackson until after i feel like in the last 15 years all of a sudden it started popping up

Starting point is 02:53:15 they're like oh this guy was wildly racist oh i didn't know that so i don't know i'm saying that i don't know that's always been taught and maybe that's the last like 15 years we've kind of as a culture been like oh this, this guy was fun. Was he part of the Louisiana Purchase? I think that was Jefferson, I think. Yeah, I think that was Jefferson. You know if it wasn't for Haiti's revolution, America wouldn't be as big as it is.

Starting point is 02:53:36 Wait, why? Oh, they needed the money because the Haitians revolted and then the French were like, yo, we need that bread because we don't have our colony where we could take all the resources out of there. So, that was the Louisiana Purchase. Oh, interesting. So, Haiti didn't revolt.

Starting point is 02:53:49 I wonder if America is secretly stoking the revolution in Haiti. Who knows? I don't think so, though, because- We were besties back then. They were running their own shit. There was, I forget who it was, but it was some South American country that wanted the leader of the Haitian Revolution to help them out. And he was like, yeah, I'll help you out, but we just got done with this big war. We need you to pay us, and we help you.

Starting point is 02:54:12 And they helped them. And then they just, after they helped them win it, they beat the Spaniards. They were like, all right, now fuck off. Who, when Haiti beat the French? No. Oh, the Haitian general went there and pushed back the Spaniards. Yeah, when Haiti, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. He helped the Central American people fight off the Spani No. Oh, the Haitian general went there and pushed back the Spaniards. Yeah, when Haiti, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow.

Starting point is 02:54:25 He helped the Central American people fight off the Spaniards. Really? And then they told them to fuck off. Get out of here. You got to get that money up front, yo.

Starting point is 02:54:33 What are you doing? Damn, bro. It's on you, honestly. Haiti was trying to get their bread back because, what's it called, France got their money back by selling the Louisiana,

Starting point is 02:54:43 but Haiti, they were by themselves. They're a sovereign nation now. They didn't have nobody. And then that's a tricky power vacuum. And if you don't have people who understand government and manage it so easily to be corruptible, it's so easy from outside sources to just come in and start scooping up

Starting point is 02:54:58 resources. I mean, that's a tricky one right there. You're an interesting guy, man. Because growing right there you're an interesting guy man because growing up you're so accepting you're so like integrated in the world but growing up people that talk like you were the black power fuck white people but then secretly fuck white girls like yeah you're just yeah yeah you're an interesting guy man that's you don't i don't it's just a real crossover bro man we can learn so much from so many different cultures.

Starting point is 02:55:28 Bro, I just be learning so much from so many different people where it's like, how could I be racist? You know what I mean? Who am I better than? Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't think I'm better than any of y'all in here. So it's like, how am I going to think I'm better than the entire race? But what's your least favorite race?

Starting point is 02:55:42 If we had to rank them. You're white, right? Nah. You know what I've been thinking about? I've been thinking about combinations that I never see. And I mean by like dating. So like I've been thinking about like you never see like an Indian with a black guy. Indian girl, black guy. Yeah. Yeah. I've been thinking about combinations. My sister-in-law's husband is black. Yeah. Damn. Oh, there you go. That's a rare combination. Point of contention. What's husband is black, yeah. Damn. Oh, there you go. That's a rare combination. Point of contention. What's like the rarest combination y'all seen?

Starting point is 02:56:09 Asian dude, black woman. Asian dude, black woman. Yeah, that's not happening. It doesn't. It's not very often that it happens. Yeah, I've seen a couple. That's it. Bro, I'm not going to lie, man.

Starting point is 02:56:19 Black women be getting dogged on social media. It's really sad. Why? I don't know why. Like, I've seen this thing. it's like one race gotta go and it's white asian hispanic and then black lady and then uh in the comment section they're like the monkey has to go jeez they don't even love their own and it's just like damn and like i've been seeing my sisters act the way they do sometimes like you're saying yeah that they feel a sense of rejection constantly. Yeah. Really?

Starting point is 02:56:46 Yeah. It's so interesting though because they over index in terms of cultural influence. A lot of the gay slang is coming from black women. Literally. So even maybe by the time it hits a white girl where a white girl is like slay

Starting point is 02:57:02 it's coming from a black chick that a gay dude got it even lgbtq rstv wxy and z community has from the black ones they have so much cultural influence that's probably from the social isolationism you know i mean like if you're fully integrated in the culture you're not going to come up with slang all the time i think it's from oh you are isolated you are your own. You are creating your own authentic thing. But how is it authentic when another race

Starting point is 02:57:27 was doing it already? No, I'm saying the black women. Oh, black women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were talking about gay people. Yeah, like if black women

Starting point is 02:57:32 are being rejected by other races in America, they don't necessarily need to conform to get love necessarily. And if they're being isolated, then... Yeah, so they're going

Starting point is 02:57:41 to create all this dope shit and then everybody's like, ooh, let me get a little bit of that. And then everybody thinks that they're doing the gay thing but they're really doing the black woman thing yeah and then there's probably like additional animosity because it's like you had rejected us for what we were doing and you're gonna take my shit and then now you put it on like i would be tight i do think it's the other way around gay people they get a

Starting point is 02:58:00 lot of their it's like you would say that i just saying, like, wow. About gay people and black women, I feel like they're probably the closest allies with each other. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. When shit breaks off, that's going to be... They're going to link up.

Starting point is 02:58:13 Yeah. They're going to click up. Really? Yeah, there'll be a lot of black girls at those pride parades. They don't even be gay. They have to be out there. Yeah. Just what?

Starting point is 02:58:22 Telling them what to say? They'll be like... Period. Period. Take your nails like this. yeah just what telling them what to say period period wait you're saying you think it's black girls stealing the gay shit yeah really I thought it's the opposite yeah I think that just like a lot of that

Starting point is 02:58:35 on fleek like that's a black woman thing period like period is black woman I'm gonna read you and all that type of stuff that's not that's from the gay community well name one white person name one gay white person you said do that type of stuff. That's not, that's from the gay community. Well, name one white person. Name one gay white person you said do that. I've never seen Anderson Cooper do that.

Starting point is 02:58:51 Okay, let me be more specific. The black gay community. He's trying to act like he's not gay. Oh, black gay. The black gay community comes up with it first, and then black women hop on the train. But that's not gay in it. It's serving or it's giving. I'm thinking about more like white gay. Oh, okay. I'm thinking more white gay.

Starting point is 02:59:06 No, but black gay also counts. Yeah, you're right. Black gay creates it, black women start doing it, and then white gays. But if black gay creates it, you're saying black people created it. You put black first. If it's a black gay person that made some slang, you're like, yo, that's black people. I'm with it.

Starting point is 02:59:23 That's not gay people's slang, that's black people's slang. Okay, so you're taking credit for the black gay black people. I'm with it. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's not gay people slang, that's black people slang. Okay, so you're taking credit for the black gay slang as a black man. Period. Okay, what about like a black serial killer? Would you take credit for that? Shit, man. Slay.

Starting point is 02:59:43 There's only one that comes to mind. Yeah, i can't really think of that many but i know about one who uh it's this dude he he had his family he was like our word is children and he like locked them up in this uh like house and barricaded the doors and then he killed all of them and then like he came out and surrendered himself. It was weird. This dude? I think so. Oh, and then the D.C. snipers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The D.C. snipers.

Starting point is 03:00:11 Yeah. I'm not going to lie. It's crazy because I see why the cops never figured it out because you're never going to think about some nigga sniping people. That's a fact. I can see why the FBI was stumped on that one. That had white activity stamped all over it. It doesn't fit the profile. Outside the perimeter, like from range?

Starting point is 03:00:30 There's no way he's pulling up from range. I mean, yeah, if you're shooting the three ball, yeah, you can make that shot. But that's a rifle. That was pre-Steph Curry. He didn't even know black people could shoot from range, period. Bro. Yeah. Jackie Robinson of serial killers.

Starting point is 03:00:44 Yeah, exactly. Crazy. Yeah yeah do you watch anime i love anime yeah i love anime yeah what's your what's your shit uh hunter hunter i just binge watched uh attack on titan death note i grew up with dragon ball z and naruto um it's crazy because like back in the day bro if you would say you liked anime bro you would get bullied now it's the cool shit it's the cool shit bro look's the cool shit, bro. Look at Izzy. Izzy, he came popping because he would do anime stuff in the ring and stuff like that. But yeah, man, anime is amazing.

Starting point is 03:01:13 What drew you into it when you were younger? Man, it was just like, man, I'll never forget it. It's just the battles, bro. Fuck the story. Just those fight scenes were cool because i i also watched every single jackie chan bruce lee and uh jet lee movie like growing up i would go to blockbuster and just get those movies and just what my favorite uh like karate type movie is oompa you ever heard of oompa no oh my gosh oh i've heard of that you guys have to watch can y'all answer this to me why are kung fu movies so unbelievably popular in the black community?

Starting point is 03:01:47 I have no idea. It is like, it skips. White people do not fucking care. Everything he named, I would watch all. I know. But specifically, and I think now, instead of kung fu movies, it's anime that younger generations are watching. But the older generations would watch.

Starting point is 03:02:02 I'm talking about kung fu, the dubbing is bad, still watching. it was so popular in the black community i've seen the first one bro there's one scene like brody was like driving away on a motorcycle he jumped on the thing and fucking elbowed his helmet and the helmet broke cracked open oh man bro this fire i already know the comment section is gonna fucking love this movie like the tony uh tony john he's amazing and there was this one movie it was a little bit more recent, it was called Raid. This makes it even more impressive when you guys were beating up those Asians because you know what they could do. Beating up Asians. Remember when black people were beating the shit out of Asians?

Starting point is 03:02:35 When? Before Stop Asian Hate. Well, you wouldn't try that in a small town, but you would definitely do it in a small town. Black people beat up Asian people? You don't remember this? No. That was bullshit. Fake news. Liberal media. Yep. The only thing liberal media was like, everybody's doing that. black people beat up asian people you don't remember this no that was bullshit fake news

Starting point is 03:02:45 liberal media yep the only thing liberal media was like everybody's doing that but every video it was a couple months ago this dude he followed you don't remember this when asians were getting punched i heard about stop asian hate i didn't know i didn't know what they were talking about because what do you think it was i was thinking like who hates asian people i was like i love like, I thought everybody loved Asian people. That's why I was like, I didn't do research on it.

Starting point is 03:03:10 Oh, it was a city thing. Also, there weren't enough other races talking about it. So you didn't know and no one cared. You need that white mouthpiece, bro. What's it called?

Starting point is 03:03:25 If it ain't rice, it ain't nice. What is that? What is that? If it ain't white, it ain't right, but for Asians. If it ain't rice, it ain't nice? Oh, that's fire, dude. Yeah, I fuck with it. But what, this is the other shit?

Starting point is 03:03:39 Oh, yeah. Oh, the raid. I've seen the raid. No, you didn't. I did see the raid. What happened in the raid? You've got to get up the thing. You've got to fight a new person on every single floor. Yeah. Fact check. They've got the raid and the raid. I've seen the raid. No, you didn't. I did see the raid. What happened in the raid? You've got to get up the thing. You've got to fight a new person on every single floor.

Starting point is 03:03:47 Yeah. Fact check. They've got the raid and the raid two. I saw the raid one. I didn't see it. Or I saw the raid two. I just saw one of them. Started there.

Starting point is 03:03:54 Okay. I figure it's going to be a lot of hi-yah. It's not going to be that crazy. How different is one and two? You've got to get up again. Another hotel? Yeah. That's the thing about movies nowadays.

Starting point is 03:04:04 It's like, bro, the character will be pristine in the beginning. Then at the end, nigga will be fucking dragging his leg, arm broken and stuff. And it's like, damn, you just went through a war. Now, you watch movies, these niggas are fucking untouchable. They're just do, do, do, do, do. Hollywood's so unoriginal now. I fucking hate it. Really?

Starting point is 03:04:21 I hate it. I watched the Barbie movie, right? What'd you think? Me and my girl, we saw the Barbie movie. And fucking the shit was crazy. I was excited for it. I watched the Barbie movie, right? What'd you think? Me and my girl, we saw the Barbie movie, and fucking the shit was crazy. Like, I was excited for it. I was like, bro, this is going to be cool. Like, you know, like, you know, I know I'm not a girl or nothing, but like, I could see the importance for girls, you know, because they grew up with it.

Starting point is 03:04:36 Sure. So I was like, you know what, let me go watch this out. Bro, oh my gosh, the moral of the movie is men deserve no rights. No, they deserve a little bit of rights. No. One of the Kins at the end said, can we at least get one seat in the House of Representatives? And she was like, no, no, no, no, no. She was like, maybe you can be a janitor and work your way up.

Starting point is 03:04:56 But so this is the part of the movie. I thought they ended up getting some seats or whatever. No, the part of the movie is Barbie land. The women run everything. Yeah. And then the Kins don't even have a house, they're just there. Then Kin and Barbie go into the real world, and then like, Kins like brainwashed to see how the real world is and how like men run everything.

Starting point is 03:05:13 Patriarchy. Yeah. Infects Barbie Land. And so he comes back, and then when he comes back, they're like serving all the Kins beers, and like, it's just like a mantopia. And Barbie's like, no, this can't be it,'s like no this can't be it has to be barbie land so they emotionally manipulate every single kin and then make them fight each other you know how your girl like she's mad at you she'll emotionally manipulate you maybe by like brushing your

Starting point is 03:05:37 friend's arm and you instead of pressing her you'll press your friend like bro what the fuck? That's never happened to me once. Your friend grew up. That's crazy. No, that's crazy. But Gaslighting though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gaslighting. Okay, yeah, yeah. And they have all the kids fighting and while they're

Starting point is 03:05:50 fighting, the Barbies take back over. And then the kids are like, hey, we just want a little bit of power. And all the Barbies are like, fuck now. And then Barbie gets a pussy

Starting point is 03:05:59 at the end. Oh, she goes to the gyno. Yeah. Oh, you've seen it? I just heard it. Damn. I heard it. Because I went, I saw Oppenheimer.

Starting point is 03:06:06 Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was all right. All right. Did you see it in the IMAX or the regular? That's not going to change it for me. Because for me, it's not like, how colorful is it? It's like, it's a story.

Starting point is 03:06:22 And I thought the story, i thought there were a couple things that were done unbelievably well really which were when the bomb i'm not ruining anything because you know what the fuck happens but when the bomb explodes people are celebrating and they nolan makes you feel so eerie like you celebrating, but it's the death of all these people who aren't even fighting you. It's not like you're bombing a military base. It's innocent people. The war was kind of already won. It's more of a show of strength.

Starting point is 03:06:55 Yeah, because they didn't even have to drop it. So it's like. Because they wanted to drop it on the Nazis, I think. Well, yeah, but the Nazis already given up. Yeah. And the Japanese were still fighting. Now, also, the Japanese did the Pearl Harbor. So it's like, I'll ask for it.

Starting point is 03:07:06 You slap someone, you know what I mean? You're going to get slapped. And sometimes someone got a bigger fucking fist, right? Yeah. But there is an argument to say it didn't need to happen. It's a military base versus a whole town. This guy. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 03:07:17 Three towns. Yeah, two towns. Yeah, because we need to show we have more than one in case anybody else wanted it. But they go with that, I think. But he evokes this feeling it'd be very easy for nolan to just evoke this feeling of we did it america's gonna pay him back we got it but instead it's this feeling of why are they cheering what's going on here yeah what's happening and oppenheimer is a piece of shit yeah and he shows that in the movie.

Starting point is 03:07:47 But also may have been wronged. So it's like, the movie isn't do they make the bomb? It's does he get justice? Or do they frame him and make him look like just a piece of garbage? Like a treasonous piece of garbage? See, like ambiguous? Yeah, the whole thing.

Starting point is 03:08:01 And there's not one good character in the whole movie. Which is really interesting storytelling. Josh Peck? Josh Peck only has a couple lines, and you don't even know. Damn. Yeah, yeah. Are you switching up on America, bro?

Starting point is 03:08:16 No, I mean, I thought I wanted to go in there on some like rah-rah-rah shit. The problem is it wasn't pro-America enough. You've got to watch Top Gun again. Yeah, Top Gun I like. Just to get back into it. Top Gun I like. But no, I thought it was good. I mean, I'm the biggest Christopher Nolan fan in the fucking world.

Starting point is 03:08:32 You like The Dark Knight? Yeah. I think he's the greatest filmmaker alive now. Really? And I thought this was solid. But I was going in there going, you're going to give me the Batman trilogy now. Yeah. I wish he did

Starting point is 03:08:50 Barbie. Yeah, he would have been sick. It would have been a better Barbie movie. You should have seen Barbie first because it would have opened up your mind more. I will say this about the Barbie movie. What it's done brilliantly in terms of the marketing is that it's become a cultural moment in the way that a Star Wars movie is, where people get dressed up for Star Wars.

Starting point is 03:09:08 They dress up. People are going to the movie theater. They're in their outfits. And you have to think about that when you're creating content or you're creating TV shows or films. It's like, how can people wrap their identity around this? And how can they make this more of just a sitting back experience? How can they turn this into their night? Yeah, something for them. It's like the minions

Starting point is 03:09:27 when they wear suits. It's like motherfuckers will buy 20 tickets with their friends. They didn't even want to see the movie. They just wanted to take their picture. Yeah, so it's an IG moment and a film. Yeah. And they just did that so well. And I was in the movie theater and let me tell you something. It felt like

Starting point is 03:09:43 it was sold out. Oppenheimer was sold out. It felt like everybody in the theater was there to see. And I was on 14th, in the movie theater and let me tell you something it felt like and it was sold up and i was sold out it felt like everybody in the theater was there and i was on 14th the big movie theater it felt like everybody was there to see barbie damn you're doubled up oppenheimer box office like 130 to 80 yeah i'm also like that makes yeah but they're also smart with the marketing because like they didn't they didn't make it look like it was like they really surprised you when you went in there oh yeah i was like damn like because if i would it look like it was. They really tricked you. It surprised you when you went in there. Oh, yeah. I was like, damn. Because if I would have seen how it was, I probably still would have seen it.

Starting point is 03:10:10 But I know there would have been way more backlash. Because I've seen a bunch of guys get behind it. Guys would be saying, I'm going to watch Barbie for the insightful thought and foresight. I'm going to watch Oppenheimer for the laughs and giggles. Dudes were talking about, oh, yeah, I'm going to go see Barbie. I'm going to go see Barbie but like if it was marketed like the movie was you don't think it would be as successful

Starting point is 03:10:29 it would still be successful but the guys wouldn't want to go see it yeah women are about it apparently that America Ferreira speech in it is really good where like she describes what it's like to be a woman and I guess that's how it is too it's like you know I'm not a woman so I don't get it I checked the Rotten Tomatoes expecting critic score to be high

Starting point is 03:10:47 and fan score to be low just based on what I was hearing but it was 90 and 90 but look at it if you go back and look the audience score they're all verified what does that mean? so they turned off so it's only people who are in Hollywood

Starting point is 03:11:03 but like does that mean blue check verified? yeah yeah They all verify people. So it's only people who are in Hollywood. But like... Does that mean blue check verify? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the audience score, it's only verified people. So it's not an authentic audience score. No, she didn't like it. Oh, really?

Starting point is 03:11:16 My wife saw it. She thought it was okay. Her friend liked it, though. It's crazy, but Kim was the funniest part of it. He was the best part of the movie. No, Gosling's hilarious. He's so good. Let's go, boys. Let's crazy, but like Kim was the funniest part of the like he was the best part of the movie. No Gosling's hilarious He's so good. He let's go boys. Let's go boy. You still need us Like it was it was actually surprising I was part of a female empowering movie was the

Starting point is 03:11:36 comic relief I know he was that funny that dude's hilarious. He bust cheeks at the end, bro He was trying to hit so hard. He really was. Like Ken, he was low-key going down sad. But that's why she got the pussy, probably, so he could do the job. No, she left him in—I don't want to spoil it, but— You can spoil it. It's fine. I think it's okay.

Starting point is 03:11:53 No, I'm going to get bombarded. I was going to fucking take my family to see it. We watched the Andrew Schultz podcast, didn't go to movie night. That's on you, bro. That's the one thing I kept thinking. These conservatives were getting so up in arms. I was like, yo, this is the gayest shit to be offended by, is you didn't go to movie night. That's the one thing I kept thinking. These conservatives were getting so up in arms. I was like, yo, this is the gayest shit to be offended by is you didn't like Barbie. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:12:11 That's like Barbie's woke. That's embarrassing that you're this upset about Barbie not meeting your expectations. Yeah. But I guess they're just like, oh, if I'm taking my kids, go see this movie. And my daughter leaves me like, yeah, guys do suck. Like if that is what the outcome is. Oh, yeah. You feel misledled that's that's i imagine they're going to be like oh my kids are gonna love this and then there's like pussy jokes and they're like what the fuck yeah no it was definitely not a kid's movie yeah but then again also it was more adults in there because i feel

Starting point is 03:12:37 like girls today aren't really playing with barbie i thought it was marketed to adults because kids don't play with barbie yeah i thought that too but then i was told that they do still play with Barbie as part of it. It's still cultural. That's the other thing. You're tapping into 60 years of nostalgia. You can't go wrong. It's like the Super Mario Brothers movie. You have 60

Starting point is 03:12:58 years. People play with Legos. You can make a Lego movie. No, I heard it's really good though. I heard it's amazing. I love it. It's that good. I think it's amazing. I love it. Where it's that good? I think it's some of the best cinema. Really? It's really good.

Starting point is 03:13:09 Shifty said that, too. He was like, it was exceptional. Did you watch it? I did, but I fell asleep. Damn. But was that on something like you were tired

Starting point is 03:13:15 from life shit? Yeah, I was too tired. Okay, yeah. No, you gotta re-watch it. I still like the first one more because I could just re-watch that one. It's low-key

Starting point is 03:13:23 like my comfort movie. Yeah. But I be doing reviews sometimes on my second channel yeah like when i see a movie i'll just like hop on and just tell people watch oppenheimer i mean you're a fan of history so like i think that it'd be interesting for you to look at it there's just a couple things that like see i would think you would like it the way you like history too i i was really excited for it i just and i thought it was an interesting choice to make there not be one single good person in the movie. But that's what happens when the movie is about people who are making nuclear weapons and generals and politicians.

Starting point is 03:13:57 None of them are good people. Right? And it's like sometimes people who aren't that good have to do a thing that's not that good. And that propels the world into a direction that they believe might be the best place to go you might need to be not that good to do that yeah but like oppenheimer just felt like just a complete fucking egomaniac piece of shit and like and the whole big thing is at the end they're like trying to like discredit him like call him a communist or whatever like that not even the end but like that's part of like the saga and it was done by a politician trying to like distance himself from the guy whatever and uh but i'm also like yo apanama you got to be

Starting point is 03:14:31 smarter than that like why are you hanging out with these commies like you know you're building a fucking nuke like you you can't be getting side pussy from communist bitches while you're building a nuke while we're kind of connected with russia but you know what i mean it must be something about that communist pussy because all our Democratic people... They share it with everybody. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? It's for the streets. Where's Russia putting their pussy? Someone, Jamie, look it up.

Starting point is 03:14:54 Have you been to Russia? Nah, nah, nah. Oh, you got to do a prank over there, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not coming back. Nah, but Russian chicks are... Yeah, they're good. Really? I'll go on the russian bride and i'll order one yeah this weekend was a win for a russian pussy because barbie was russian pussy too oh wait was margo russian no she's australian

Starting point is 03:15:16 i thought she was russian no no we said she was a russian six because we got back from russia and we're like these are the most beautiful women ever. But Margot Robbie is an absolutely stunning woman and anybody saying she's mid on the internet needs to shut the fuck up. Except us. Dude, what do you think about Jen Ortega? Wednesday Addams? Yeah. I think she could be in one of your EPD

Starting point is 03:15:37 movies or pranks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it called? EDPs. Yeah, EDPs. You keep going, EDC. I don't know. It's something about older people where they can't pronounce things the right, my mom, she calls Chipotle, Chipoli. I feel like you guys purposely say things the wrong way. Genuinely called you old, I love it. You just tried to piss me off.

Starting point is 03:15:58 Why you trying to piss him off? Why you trying to piss him off? The comfort that he called me old was just fantastic. Oh, you're pushing 40. God damn. I am, bro. But you look good. That's all we can do.

Starting point is 03:16:14 Now it's even worse. But no, you look good for how old you are. But that's all we can do at this point. You look good for our age. Yeah, that is true. How old are you? Same, 39. 39? How old are you guys?

Starting point is 03:16:23 I'm 26. I'm 35. 35? Damn. Life don guys? I'm 26. I'm 35. 35. Damn. Bites don't crack. Yeah. I mean. Respect.

Starting point is 03:16:29 Does it not? No, it gets. It gets. I mean, does it not crack a little bit? Should we take off that beard? Let's go! Listen, listen, listen. It looks like you caught an elbow from O Ang Bak or whatever. Look at that line

Starting point is 03:16:47 on the top. You just went from 20 to 40, right? This is the thing. For the most part, all black people can look good bald. You guys have that down. The only white person I can think that looks good bald in the homo is

Starting point is 03:17:02 Stone Cold Steve Austin. Fantastic. And Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis pulled off no facial hair. That's the hardest thing. That is low-key tough. If you could have a beard and then you're shaved up, you're fine. Okay, but let's say he wasn't in no diehard.

Starting point is 03:17:16 Would he be tough still? He might look crazy. No, no, he was fine in Tarantino's Pulp Fiction. And I think he was bald. He had hair in Pulp Fiction. He had like receding. Yeah. What about Jason Statham?

Starting point is 03:17:30 Jason Statham, I feel like he'd be having a little five o'clock shadow. Yeah, he's not like shiny bald. But you guys have similar, you and Jason Statham have similar. Yeah, yeah. But are you ever gonna just shave it all the way? Yeah, I'll be going bald. Oh, you do it. I've just been lazy.

Starting point is 03:17:49 You did it in the WNBA one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mom be cutting my hair. You did it in the NBA barber one. Yeah, that shit was so hard to sneak in. Dude, how do you get in the clippers? I just shove it up my ass. Stop playing.

Starting point is 03:18:01 I'm being so, no, I'm just playing. How do you get the clippers? I just have to walk over. I don't know. I only get banned twice. I don't so... How do you get the clippers? I only get banned twice. I don't think he can probably give up the guy who... It's Cat, right? Cat got the clippers. He snitched? He snitches! He called Cat, like, help me!

Starting point is 03:18:17 You took a shot during a basketball game, during a WNBA game. Bro, if a ball hits you during a game, you're not going to try to shoot that home? Bro, it happened to me and I didn't. I thought about it. I really did. That's the intrusive thoughts win. That's the difference.

Starting point is 03:18:30 That shit, they couldn't have kicked me out. That's true. I airballed like a hoe. It was a bad airball. Did you play growing up? Did you hoop? No, no. I only played football.

Starting point is 03:18:41 You guys want to see what I used to look like? Look up Jadon Buff. Everybody called it Prime Jadon. I'm like, bro, I get bullied every time I post a picture. You look fat, fat ass or da-da-da-da-da da-da-da-da-da. People just follow my ass. Fat ass is such an unnecessary

Starting point is 03:18:57 Why are you saying it twice? This one? That's not you. That's not even. Top left? There's better. Wait, is that you? That's me. That's you? That's me. Stop it. No, that's not even. Top left? There's better. Wait, is that you? That's me. That's you? That's me. Stop it.

Starting point is 03:19:09 No, that's not you, bro. All right. That's Pramjee. This is you? That's me. No, it's not. Stop bullshitting. Like, I don't know if he's capping or not.

Starting point is 03:19:17 Right here. I got a way better picture of my. How young is that? Is that him? I was 18. Oh, shit, bro. This one? Bro, I got an even better one.

Starting point is 03:19:29 I don't know if you guys can zoom in on the camera, but... Get out of here. Get the fuck out of here. That was Prime to Dion. Brolic. See, they fat shaming you because they care. And hairline tight? What happened?

Starting point is 03:19:39 How old were you here? I was 18. This is four years ago? Yeah. You can get that back. How much working out to do this? Bro, I played football. Oh, so you were just? I was 18. This is four years ago? Yeah. You can get that back. How was working out to do this? Bro, I played football. Oh, so you were just...

Starting point is 03:19:49 I played football. Damn, son. Yo, hairline was tough. Bro, I appreciate you. Heartbreak, what was it? So I did get my heart... I'm not going to lie. A girl broke my heart in 2020,

Starting point is 03:19:59 and that low-key made me grind even harder. Bro, how'd you go from that to that? To this? Bro, this is you go from that to that? To this? Bro, this is the wildest transformation there is. Yeah, dude. Bro, I had to, you know how people

Starting point is 03:20:09 be selling their souls? I had to sell my hairline. For your success. For my success. But what happened here? Where, what is that? Like, because you have the same hairline here.

Starting point is 03:20:17 Isn't it really that bad? It's not that bad. A kid, kids be looking. Bro, that's like child abuse right there. What do you mean? You're harassing me. That's a 37 year old She works at a public school

Starting point is 03:20:29 sound of freedom You're gonna be on some of freedom to They need to make it to I promise you Disney they're gonna be, can we please get it this time? There's more kids being sex trafficked. We have some in the basement. We don't want Disney. Yeah, bro.

Starting point is 03:20:50 You got to collab with him on one of your videos. I'm telling you. Who? With Sound of Freedom. Bro, can you go? Doesn't Mel Gibson, like, didn't he go on something random about black people? He was like, you want to get fucked by a gang of n****s, don't you? Or he said something like that.

Starting point is 03:21:03 He said that to his wife. His pregnant wife. He was wild. Sometimes I like, when I hear shit like that, that shit's just funny as fuck to me. Yeah, we were all like, this is hilarious. Like Hulk Hogan when he was going off. He was like, oh, she fucks with his niggas.

Starting point is 03:21:18 I just don't understand it. Good Hogan. Are you a wrestling fan? That's a good Hogan. I love WWF and WWE. Wait, can you do other impressions well? Good Hogan Are you a wrestling fan? That's a good Hogan You're definitely a wrestling fan I love WWF and WWE Yeah 100% Wait can you do other impressions Will?

Starting point is 03:21:29 No no no The Hogan was good That's great Can you cut a promo? Can you do a macho man Randy Savage promo? Can you do a Hulk Hogan promo apology? What would he say to the black community? Listen kids

Starting point is 03:21:44 All I do is eat my vitamins. I have never took any, I don't know. What are you saying? He refuses, he said he didn't take steroids? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was back when everybody was on it but said they didn't, right? Yeah. Was this Roids right here?

Starting point is 03:21:58 You know what's crazy? Everybody in the locker room thought, because I was fat, and then in a five-month period, I got ripped. And all the coaches and all the players are like what the fuck and like there's a rumor going around around that um i was on the bradley martin juice but no nothing were you good were you good at football bro look at my highlights oh okay check the highlight what'd you play shit i was fucking jj watt uh type in Jadon Adams highlights. So then what happened? What happened? You know, Nick Saban, he was like, bro, you got to give up this YouTube shit, bro.

Starting point is 03:22:33 We need you. I think this is your video, right? Look at that. Look at that tackle for loss. Amazing. Amazing. Do you have any sacks in this or are you just... I had too many highlights where my

Starting point is 03:22:47 coach was like, bro, we can't make an hour-long video. And I was like, damn, you're right. So we just kept it to this. So you had to repeat one. Yeah. I had six tacklers for losses and one forced fumble this game. I never started the game after that. Wait, why? I have no idea. Coach

Starting point is 03:23:03 Arberneen, what the fuck? Like, literally, what the... You know what why? Coach Arberning what the fuck like literally what the you know what's crazy that's actually what started my YouTube career cause I couldn't play like they would not let me play they would fucking have sophomores start before me I guess he just didn't like me I don't know were you like a mouthy kid or anything like that?

Starting point is 03:23:19 no no no no no that's odd especially if you were actually producing yeah and like he would even tell me, he was like, where was this at? Like, he was like, we're going to see it, but he never started me again. And so I was booty hurt for, like, the next two games, and then I was just like, listen, I can either be booty hurt for the rest of the season or I can make something about it. So I started vlogging on the sideline. I did sideline vlogs, and I would make, like, highlight hype tapes and stuff, and I would post them, and then stuff and I'll post them and then my one of them got like 4k I had like 90 subs and they got like 4k views and I was just doing that and the coaches were getting pissed at me

Starting point is 03:23:52 For doing that and it was like yeah, I'm trying to make the best out of a situation You know you guys aren't playing me and I'm just doing something. That's fun. All the players are enjoying it and stuff and um Yeah, I had a lot of haters I like that makes sense the best guy in the situation is being involved in the game and cheering

Starting point is 03:24:08 from the sideline not like yo guys this is what's going on no I mean I wasn't filming so one of my friends he toured ACL

Starting point is 03:24:16 so he would film you would host it yeah yeah yeah I would just host it you know and then like I would get the crowd hyped and stuff

Starting point is 03:24:23 and everything just making light of a shitty situation yeah and you know and then like you know i'll get the the crowd hyped and stuff and everything just making light of a shitty situation yeah and um you know the coaches didn't fuck with it also i used to sell games so to make money during the season i would go to kroger's and i would buy you could buy these big ass power raids for 40 cents right i would get them and i would freeze them and then i would take them out in the morning and I would put them in my locker and I had like a shit ton and then by the end of practice they would be like slushies and bro everybody's dehydrated

Starting point is 03:24:51 and stuff they're tired so I'd be like bro $2 and so I would be making $60 $120 like I even had coaches pre-order they were like bro save me a purple save me a white to the guys on the team you would sell me a white and two guys on the team you would sell them yeah to the guys on the team and the coaches yeah yeah your teammates

Starting point is 03:25:10 and nobody tried to compete with you they couldn't i had one nigga he would try to sell beef jerky and you're like fuck out of here like, you're kind of pissed. So I hired some freshman to go press him. No, you didn't. Like, this is my territory. But I had a couple copycats. They would sell candy or something. You have to go through the days where sometimes it would be bad. And they would have two, three bad days in a row.

Starting point is 03:25:40 They give up. They couldn't handle it. They couldn't handle it, but I was there. You were in them corners, bro. I was in them corners, bro. I was slinging that P. I was pushing P. Did you ever think about going to college? I did go to college.

Starting point is 03:25:53 But I didn't go for football. I just went to a little community. It was called San Jack. And fucking yeah, it was a little community college. And I actually did really good, but then covid happened and then it's like you're doing all this stuff online it's like what's the point yeah and bro i had like a like a little breakdown i was just like i had a test i had 10 minutes left and i

Starting point is 03:26:15 still had 60 questions and i was just looking at it looking at it and i was just like i can't do this i won't do this i I logged out, never went in. And my dad, he's a veteran. So I forget what it's called, but basically I got benefits to go to school. So the government, they would pay me like 1200 a month. And so I was like, damn, you know, I need to use this money wisely.

Starting point is 03:26:37 And so like, I was flunking like crazy, but I was still getting those $1,200 payments. And I would use that to fund videos and stuff. And then at the end of the semester, they sent the letter saying how I wasn't going to school, how they were going to stop payments. And my mom was just, and I was just like, I'm going to make it work. And then I started making like five bands a month off YouTube. And it was working. And then the crazy thing about Hersey, and this is how I know God works in a mysterious way.

Starting point is 03:27:04 So Hersey, I found out about him in 2019. He worked for another YouTuber named Destroying. And I had like 60 subscribers, right? And I used to love his edits. And I was like, bro, I tell my friends all the time, if I had Hersey as my editor, I would be on top. And then a year later, I just get a DM from him. And he's like, yo, man, I love your work. Keep it up, man.

Starting point is 03:27:24 You're killing it. And just him like showing me love like that, it inspired me. So I was like, man, I appreciate get a DM from him. And he's like, yo, man, I love your work. Keep it up, man. You're killing it. And just him like showing me love like that, it inspired me. So I was like, man, I appreciate you, dog. Thank you. Then another six months later, he hit me up again because he stopped working with the other YouTuber. And he was like, hey, man, I told myself I wasn't going to work with any other YouTubers. But he was like, I believe in what you got going on. He was like, if you're looking for an editor, he was like, let me know.

Starting point is 03:27:42 And I'll be down to work with you. And I was at like 300K. And I was about like maybe like four or five bands a month but like I still had my parents saving so I hit him I was like bro give me six months let me save up I'm gonna get us a crib and we're gonna make this happen so I just grinded for six months and then I hit him up I was like come to Houston And he bought this like rinky dink yellow car and he drove with all his stuff all the way from Orlando, Florida to Houston. That's fire. You're from Orlando? Oh, that's cool. And then he moved all his stuff in

Starting point is 03:28:13 and then when he first started working with us, we were at 700k. We ended that year off at 4 million. Jesus. What do you think was the biggest video? Talking to that mic right there. In that time, the biggest video?

Starting point is 03:28:30 Like 2021. What do you guys think? There was like a stretch of videos. It wasn't just like one. We went on a run like 10 in a row where we were just growing like $700K a month. Wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 03:28:45 That is crazy. And what is it about the relationship when you guys linked up that really made it crack up? We actually bumped heads a lot in the beginning. Not a lot, a lot,

Starting point is 03:28:51 but like, I had a certain way I like to do things and it's his show. Yeah. So I had to like, you know, humble myself.

Starting point is 03:28:58 Yeah. But now like, it's automatic. We chillin'. Oh, that's fire. Damn, that's so cool, man. Brother, thank you guys so much for coming. I appreciate you guys for having me.

Starting point is 03:29:08 Congratulations on absolutely everything. We're fans. We want to see you continue to thrive and succeed. Sorry football didn't work out. I think it'll be all right. I'll be back next week. Make sure you go check out DeMarcus Cousins III, man. One of the greats.

Starting point is 03:29:22 One of the greats. And I'm really excited to see what you continue to do man and if there's anything that we could do to help you let us know and if you want to do a prank i'm down but you gotta let me open for you one day i would love that yeah i'm gonna fuck it up but like it'll be fun it'd be funny though two or three minutes we'll work on some we'll work on two three minutes and then you're gonna try that'll be funny i appreciate my brother peace

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