Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Jo Koy's Mom is WHITE!
Episode Date: September 15, 202200:00 - Jo Koy and Fluffy sells the most tickets 01:58 - Netflix didn’t want Jo Koy either - “Too specific” 10:27 - Jo was the first comic Akaash ever saw in LA 16:10 - Jo Koy sells TICKETS - f*...** your algorithm 18:31 - Jo is single now 24:36 - Jo going to perform in a volcano 31:15 “Live at the Los Angeles Forum” is his best one 33:10 - Everyone’s trajectory - talent is rewarded 37:09 - Matteo Lane and love for other comics 47:42 - If not stand-up then it would be directing 58:56 - Andrew is Filipino 01:03:34 - Jo’s motorcycle accident 01:10:04 - Jo is a hustler - Comic View, Showtime and Def Jam 01:33:00 - Jo reps LA, comedy start in Las Vegas 01:40:06 - Jo might have quit Comedy in 2015 01:41:40 - “You’re the only one that’s gonna sell yourself” 01:43:11 - Steven Spielberg is a massive fan 01:46:00 - What our mothers went through for us to be here 01:58:50 - Jo Koy’s impact 02:04:19 - Immigrants can only do certain jobs 02:13:49 - Performing in the Philippines
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I'm not doing a Filipino accent.
I'm doing the best impersonation of my mother.
But the weird thing is that, like, your mother's the white one.
I don't know if you know this, but my mom is a white woman from Little Manila in Queens.
Yes.
Yes.
I know this.
We're here, flagrant, with, honestly, I don't know if there's anybody on the planet that
sells as many tickets as you.
It's like you and Fluffy, right?
You and Fluffy, yeah.
Is there anybody else?
I don't know, man.
Minister Farrakhan, maybe?
You, Fluffy, Minister Farrakhan
are the only people that can do
stadiums full of comedy, right?
I don't even know.
I mean, there's Kevin, you know.
Oh, Kev, that's true. I mean, there's Kevin, you know. Oh, Kev.
That's true.
That's true.
But it's crazy what's happening.
I can't even explain what's going on right now.
But it's also weird because with Kev, he's also like this movie superstar.
Yeah.
And with you.
I'm just at Nordstrom Rack.
You're at Nordstrom Rack.
Yeah, yeah.
She was at Nordstrom Rack and I'm with a ticket.
Yeah, we know.
You're Joseph.
Yeah, I'm Joseph.
You're Joseph.
I'm Joseph.
Yeah, man. So it's this weird thing where it's like you. Yeah, we know you're Joseph. Yeah, I'm Joseph. You're Joseph. I'm Joseph. Yeah, man.
So it's this weird thing where it's like you're a boy, but you're also this like you go to Hawaii and then the state shuts down.
Yeah.
Like that's what BJ Penn needed.
He needed you to say you want BJ Penn for governor.
Oh, that would have been dope.
Why didn't you do that?
You know what?
You should have asked.
No, I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
By the way, I'm joking, BJ.
You've got to tell BJ when you're joking.
I get it, brother.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it now, brother.
Talk story.
Yeah, yeah.
Talk story.
Who supports BJ Penn for governor?
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't?
Who doesn't openly is a better question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Behind closed doors, there might be some people that don't.
But in front of them, I think the right thing to do.
Yeah, you should always say I support BJ Penn.
Always.
You still haven't said who this guy is.
I still don't know him.
Oh, it's Joseph Coy.
All right, Joseph!
Joseph!
Joseph!
Okay.
Thank you.
You want to start the podcast by bashing Netflix.
No.
Yeah, that was a weird thing.
Why is God against that?
Well, I mean, yeah, the new Netflix special
is about to drop.
But no,
what we were talking about...
Oh, sorry, sorry.
You want to promote
the new special.
No, no, no.
I love what you're saying.
They don't mind
talking about it.
But you were saying something
about how they weren't
fucking with you
or something like that.
Yeah, they weren't
fucking with a lot of us.
Right, right.
But then you were like,
yo, you need to suck this dick.
Okay, that's...
I don't think that's... And is when i get camp i do the hashtag
i came in here i go i was on my story i was like about to go with andrew schultz hashtag and i
left it blank and i i decided i'll fill the blank when i leave but i got the doll. Yeah, I know. Hashtag, it's been fun. Yeah.
Retired now.
Okay.
No, no.
Tell this story.
No, it's a great story.
Like, they just didn't want to,
they didn't want to invest in the special.
Yeah.
So when I found out
that they were doing originals
instead of just leasing
or whatever it is that they do.
Right, now they're leasing.
Licensing and whatever.
So whatever they were doing.
A little bit, you know.
Yeah, but back then, like 2016, they were doing. Yeah, but back
then, like 2016, they were
just getting stuff from Comedy Central and posting
it on their platform.
And then when they said they were doing original content, I was
like, well, this hour
is hot. You gotta see my hour, man.
And they wouldn't even look.
I was like, wait, what?
And Schultz, I was crushing,
man. I was putting, wait, what? And Schultz, I was crushing, man. Yeah.
Like, I was putting up numbers, man.
Like, every improv, I was doing like 20 shows in a row.
Like, anywhere in the country.
It was just like, I can go to Chicago, do three weeks of straight improvs,
and then go to—
Fuck.
And then go to—I can do three.
I can do La Brea.
I can do Brea, Ontario, Irvine within the same month
and do 21 shows, 24 shows, like 20 shows all in the same month.
But yet they didn't want to look.
People don't really understand.
And they would have like this, they would have like an excuse, but I didn't understand.
I was like, wait, what is your excuse?
They wouldn't say it directly, but they were just, I think I understood.
What was it?
I don't want to say.
Say that shit.
Well, the people aren't there anymore.
But I think, you know.
So now you can definitely say it.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the new crew there is amazing.
They're wonderful.
But like, you know, the whole.
I was thinking that one a lot.
Wonderful.
Yeah, right?
Yeah, yeah.
For you.
Yeah, yeah.
I got someone to pay me some money.
No, but I didn't understand why.
And then we were just like, all right, screw it.
Like, we offered eight times.
Dude, there was this one time where I said,
I will fly you to San Francisco.
Because it was a huge show.
It was a huge show.
I was doing like 20 shows at the
Cobb's Comedy Club.
I was like, I will fly you guys in
on a private, I'm not trying to even brag.
Like honestly, I go, I will fly you guys in
on a private jet.
Right after work, just come to San Francisco.
I'll get a driver to drive you
and then I'll drive you back to the jet
and you'll be in bed tonight.
And they still turned it down.
Like I was trying so hard to get them to come.
And this is before Netflix was like the behemoth, everything, everything.
This is when they were saying that they were going to get like all these comebacks.
Like Chris is going to write a new special and Dave's coming back.
And everyone's coming back, you know, this year.
This is while we still called specials HBO specials.
Yes, yes.
Right?
Yes.
And then so I wanted to be in that roster. I was like, I deserve specials HBO specials. Yes, yes. Right. So that, yes. And then,
so I wanted to be in that roster. Yeah. I was like, I deserve to be in that roster. Fuck yeah.
So then, and then they turned down. I was like, what? And then all of a sudden they gave a call and they were like, yeah, you know, we're just going to go ahead and pass. And I'm like, what?
Before even seeing it. Didn't even see it. Like, you didn't even see it. Like, you didn't even
send anybody in. What do you think it was?
I don't know, man.
What do you just think?
You might have some ideas.
Let's just say it was too specific.
And to me, specific is just a very fancy word for we're racist.
A very fancy word for we're racist.
Whoever's in at that time or whoever's in that position.
Because to me, I'm like, what does that mean, specific?
I have a specific story.
What are you saying?
I have a specific voice.
I'm American.
I live in America.
And my mother's American.
And she lives in America.
In fact, she's lived here longer than all of us in here.
So she's really American.
She has an accent, but so does Jeff Foxworthy.
So what is specific?
I don't get it.
Other than we don't want to hear your mom's voice on TV.
This is what I always say. Whenever I hear someone say something really sly or, you know, like, oh, he's doing that thing about his mom again.
It's like, okay, well, my mom's been living here since 1969.
She works her ass off, pays taxes.
She goes home and watches TV.
And I always talk about there's a lot of nurses in Filipinos, in the Filipino community.
I have a lot of nurses in my family.
Yeah.
And they go to work at a hospital 14 hours a day.
And then when they come home, they turn on the TV and they watch a TV show about a hospital.
And not one Filipino nurse is on that show.
Oh.
That's very odd. Then you go watch a movie and you see a hospital scene.
Just an emergency room scene.
Let's just say that.
We're not even one Filipino nurse is running across the hallway.
And to me, how do you think that person feels other than invisible?
You don't think she feels the hospital is more safe.
Yeah.
But no, that's funny.
But how invisible do you think she feels?
To live in this country and to feel like, oh, so then not only do you not want to hear my voice, but on TV, I don't even fucking exist.
So thank you.
But I've been here for 59 years.
So thank you for that.
Oh, and my son's going to do one story about me and you don't want to hear it because it's too specific.
So I'm the only voice So I'm the only voice.
I'm the only voice.
And like when people go, oh, he's just doing that Filipino accent.
Motherfucker, I'm not doing a Filipino accent.
I'm doing the best impersonation of my mother.
I can give a fuck about any other person's story.
But the weird thing is that your mother's the white one.
That was the thing that was weird because most that your mother's the white one. That was
the thing that was weird because most people
don't know this about you. Your dad is Filipino.
My dad is Filipino.
And that's the story I'm trying to tell.
Joseph is super racist when you think about it.
He was making fun of your dad.
My mom
is the racist I'm talking about in this story.
It's like, if you look at
the comedy through that lens, you're the most edgy comedian I've ever seen in my entire life. It's like, if you look at the comedy through that lens,
you're the most edgy comedian I've ever seen in my entire life.
I don't know if you know this,
but my mom is a white woman from Little Manila in Queens.
Yes.
Yes.
I know this.
My dad was a mailman.
Yep, Filipino mailman.
Yes.
And this is a story I've been pitching to ABC,
and they won't buy it.
It's fucked up because your mom will do the accent.
She learned Tagalog or whatever it's called.
How do you want to fuck up my.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
It's tag along.
Tag along.
Yes.
And this.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
Yes, Tagalog.
Tagalong.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
Tagalog.
There you go.
Yeah.
How does your racist mom say it?
She says it like you.
That's the perks of a feather.
You know how white people say it.
You pronounce it so specifically.
You've got to bring your white mom on stage.
Like, I've never showed my mom, but finally the biggest show.
How funny would that be if I brought out, and she went like this, Joseph.
Joseph. Dude, in Manila like this, Joseph. Joseph.
Dude, in Manila.
What the fuck did Joseph do?
Joe Koy sold us on this bullshit.
I just count my money and go,
fuck y'all.
I won again.
Does your mom not want to be in the public eye?
Does she not want to?
Because it'd be ironic if she wants to be invisible
and your whole career is giving her visibility.
No, she loves it, man.
She loves what's happening right now.
But it sucks.
I'm not going to lie.
It sucks.
And people don't understand how hard that was.
People go, oh, Joe blew up because of the Netflix special.
I'm like, I shot that shit.
And here's another thing that no one knows.
Also, it takes a long time to blow up overnight, bro.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, it takes a long time to blow up overnight, bro. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, here's a story.
Yeah.
You were the first comic I ever saw in LA, 2007.
Wow.
This is crazy.
I think Finesse Mitchell was headlining, super funny.
But you and Tiffany Haddish were both the feature comics.
And I remember thinking-
Laugh Factory?
Laugh Factory, 2007.
I just moved to LA.
I remember thinking Tiffany had this star quality
and like my boy and I were like, yo, she's a star.
And then I remember watching you
and I was dying fucking laughing.
I don't, to this day,
I don't know if you were high or not,
but I was fucking,
and I remember thinking this guy is so free on stage.
I hadn't really started comedy,
but I was like, that's what I want.
The freedom he has on stage,
the jokes you were doing,
telling stories about your mom were so good.
But 15 years, I've remembered that.
And then, you know, as you're building, I don't realize what's going on.
I'm like, yo, I swear to God, I'd be like, what happened to that guy, Joe Coy?
So fucking funny.
Then I saw the Comedy Central special.
Then I saw the Netflix.
Then I'm seeing arenas.
And it was like, yo, man, that guy fucking grinded his way up and deserved it.
And it's so cool to see.
Thank you, man. Of course, man. I remember up and deserved it. And it's so cool to see. Thank you, man.
Of course, man.
I remember seeing you that night and thinking the same thing about your eyes.
I was like, how is he so brown and his eyes aren't?
And maybe that's why I was.
Did he deliver food or something?
Yeah, how did you?
No, he just got me with his eyes.
Kind of like right now.
I can't stop looking at his goddamn eyes. Yeah, they did you? No, he just got me with his eyes. Kind of like right now. I can't stop looking at his goddamn eyes.
Yeah, they're very nice.
I was there ordering water because I couldn't afford even Diet Coke.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jamie Masada would lock everybody down.
Okay, so then you go and you crush and you become a superstar.
Well, how do you get it onto Netflix?
No, so here's another thing, Andrew, that no one knows.
Two days before I was shooting, they call my manager and go, hey, we heard Joe Coy shooting his special.
We just want you to know that we're really not interested in that special.
What the fuck?
That's a true story.
Unnecessary.
Something happened with the Philippines and the person who was the head of Netflix.
Yeah, yeah.
The person that's the head of Netflix, he's Filipino.
That's why.
Really?
That's why.
That's what it is, dog.
He knows how annoying Filipino people are.
And he's like, nobody wants to hear from these people.
This is too much.
Nobody's going to like this.
There's no way this is going to work.
Because he knows them at their core.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, he is the core.
He's the core.
He's Filipino.
He's really Filipino?
No, Andrew.
Sarandos.
His mom is white.
What are we doing, bro?
Does Sarandos sound like it? You're fucking up everyoneandos. His mom is white. What are we doing, bro?
Doesn't Sarandos sound like it?
You're fucking up everyone's name.
You're a China man.
Oh, man.
Holy shit.
You've been lying the whole time.
You've been lying the whole time.
I had to flip it.
I had to flip it.
I felt the pressure coming on me.
There's another racist statement.
What?
Flip it?
Flip it, yeah.
Oh, that was racist.
That was racist on your side.
On your side.
That was your mom coming out. That was your mom coming out. My white mom? I have a Flip it, yeah. Oh, come on. That was racist on your side. On your side. That was your mom coming out.
That was your mom coming out.
My white mom?
I have a white mom, too.
My white mom's an immigrant.
Oh.
She has an accent just like yours.
Let me hear it.
Let me hear it.
How does your mom?
Joseph?
She's a singer?
Your mom's an R&B immigrant?
Joseph. Joseph. immigrant? Joseph.
Joseph.
Joseph.
Okay.
No.
She's a Scottish woman.
Yeah.
And I was told that it was too specific as well.
Really?
Yeah.
You're full of shit.
I was.
I was told that.
My whole family was told that.
What they were doing was too specific.
And then they were taken over by the Brits.
And then, do you know where the queen ended up dying?
Where?
Scotland.
Joke's on you, bitch.
Right?
Guess who got the final word.
That's it. Payback, baby.
Not the queen.
Not the queen. Not at all, dude. Okay, baby. Not the queen. Not the queen.
Not at all, dude.
Okay, okay.
When she died, she went like this.
It's too specific.
Specific.
Fucking kick the can.
Okay, so then you go.
Two days before, they go, we don't want your shit.
Yeah.
Okay.
We shot it anyway.
And Ted called you specific, like himself?
No, no.
No, Ted called me specifically yeah no we
shot it we cut it and then uh and then like we we submitted it and like literally like
maybe an hour later they go we want it they knew wow yeah they knew wow yeah yeah what made you
say fuck it i'm gonna film it anyway because i knew it was good you knew it was that good and i
knew i was good and you and your intention if they didn to film it anyway because I knew it was good you knew it was that good and I knew I was good
and your intention
if they didn't buy it
you would just put it out yourself
bro you know
I
you know you shoot two in one night
that's what some people have to do
when no one wants their specials
yeah yeah
we just had to put it on YouTube
and see what happens
yeah
it's also a great option
yeah
it's really great
yeah
I mean
some people innovate
and some people follow that model
yeah it is
it works out
it does you know what I mean it works out it does man you know what I mean, some people innovate and then some people follow that model. Yeah, it is. It works out. It does.
You know what I mean?
It works out.
It does, man.
You know what I mean?
It's fucking beautiful in here.
It's beautiful in here.
It's pretty good.
You're so dumb.
Okay, no, but go.
So what happens?
We shoot it.
When they ask for it, do you fucking double the price?
Yeah.
How do you feel when you get that call?
I find out.
Man, I cried.
I'm not going to lie.
I mean, because it was a year process.
It was like 2015 was when we found out that they were doing originals 2017.
So they were going to shoot 2016.
They turned me down in 2015. It was like, 2016 was just me getting the money,
getting the directors, finding the venue.
It was just a whole year of me just
mapping this out.
And my team, my manager, my promoters.
It was a lot. It was a lot
of stress, but we were like, we gotta
do it. And I didn't care.
If they didn't buy it, I would literally make
DVDs if I had to. Even though they didn't sell them, I was gonna sell it out of the back of my car. And I didn't care. Like, if they didn't buy it, I would literally make DVDs if I had to.
Even though they didn't sell them, I was going to sell it out of the back of my car.
Yeah.
You were hungry.
Yeah.
You're a hustler.
But you also knew that the people want it.
That's the thing about, like, being on the road.
When you sell out shows, it's proof of concept.
Yeah.
That's why when they say algorithm, I don't get it.
I'm like, what algorithm are you talking about?
Yeah, the one where people leave their house?
I don't understand that algorithm.
I don't know what algorithm.
What are you talking about?
Because I got four forums sold out.
I got two Honda centers sold out.
I got two Chase centers sold out during the playoffs.
Suck your shits!
It's Golden State, Joe Coy, Golden State, Joe Coy.
I got Climate Pledge Arena sold out six months in advance.
That's a terrible name for an arena.
Tacoma Dome sold out. Yeah. Stock I'm playing Tacoma Dome, sold out.
Yeah.
Stockton, playing the Kings two times.
Two Kings.
I'm up and down.
Then Madison Square.
No, I just want to know what your algorithm is.
Yeah.
I want to know what your demo is, and I want to know what specific you're talking about.
How much you get paid for the last special?
I'm so rich.
How much you get paid for the last special? This one so rich. How much you get paid for the last special?
This one from Netflix. How much you get paid? Oh, not much.
Not much. Come on, bro. No, not much.
10 million? I'm not going to tell you.
20 million? No, not much at all.
Not much for him. No, it's high. Yeah.
Not much for you. No, not much at all.
25?
25?
Which one's my camera?
Because they're all red.
You guys just run all of them at the same time.
There's just one guy going, fuck!
Yeah!
Fucking Schultz!
Okay, so somewhere between 20.
No, we're not going to talk money.
It's 20.
It's not a lot of money.
You deserve 20, bro.
It's not a lot of money.
If you're selling more.
Well, thank you. Thank you. I'm just saying, you deserve it.
I appreciate that.
Okay.
10,000 seats on a Wednesday in the Philippines.
Like, it's nothing, bro.
Something light.
I mean, they don't have nothing to do, but still.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, 10,000 seats.
I'm not bragging, but I think after 33 years, I should be able to say these things.
Damn!
What were the seats made out of, even?
Yeah.
Well, out of my night?
Bring your own? For my night? It was Well, out of my night? Bring your own?
For my night?
It was a BYOC.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Bring your own chair.
The hospitals.
And they did that.
Oh, my God.
So many.
So many.
So many.
Joe, an Indian knows
10,000 seats in the Philippines
makes as much as about
150 seats in the U.S.
Yes.
So he sold an improv
on a Tuesday.
Yeah, I didn't hear
anything you said
because of your eyes.
So you might not want to talk this whole fucking show.
Because I'm not going to listen to anything.
All right?
Just smile and keep your eyes bright.
And he's freshly single, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Freshly single.
From your fake relationship with Chelsea Handler.
I mean, wait.
Were you guys really in a relationship?
Be honest.
Now, this is.
That doesn't seem like a yes. That doesn't seem like a yes.
That doesn't seem like a yes.
Joseph!
This is fun to even...
Joseph!
...play with this type of conversation.
Joseph!
I am your white mother right now.
Joseph!
Yeah.
How do you know how to play with that?
He's going through a breakup.
Why are you doing this to him? What do you how to play with that he's going through a breakup why are you doing this to him what do you want to do
with that
can we pretend to laugh
and believe that question
yes
then we'll all laugh
at that
okay yeah
I do not have a relationship
with her
no
yeah I mean
you know it's a breakup
whatever
we're still friends
but you know
are you heartbroken
no no not at all
we you know
the way it happened the way it happened
the way it happened at the beginning no because it's a you know it's a breakup bro it's like
whatever but i really don't want to talk about it okay it's a breakup fair enough i don't want to
make you feel uncomfortable here not at all but you did you ever hear people go like are they really
yeah but i i always thought those people were stupid.
On this podcast, maybe?
Yeah.
Those people are dumb and stupid.
And ugly also.
They're also ugly.
Yeah.
And I also thought any one of the things like that was an insecure piece of shit.
Piece of shit, yeah, yeah.
But no one thinks like that.
I mean, nobody.
Not in this room.
None of us.
Am I right, guys?
None of us.
Okay, now here's the thing.
We're all adults here.
We're not.
Now that's a lie. Are we 14 again? Now that's a lie. We're actually not all adults. That's the thing. We're all adults here. We're not. Now that's a lot.
Are we 14 again?
Now that's a lot.
We're actually not all adults.
Next thing you know, you're going to buy a bunch of electric bikes and donate them at
Burning Man.
No, we did do that.
Is that what we do?
We threw them out.
Come on.
Right?
Only children do dumb shit like that.
Okay, okay.
Now, now.
Yep.
Can we get this back on the rails?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
You also have to be careful with that, by the way, because that's a voodoo doll. You know that, right? Oh, it's not. Now, now. Can we get this back on the rails? Yeah. Okay. You also have to be careful with that, by the way,
because that's a voodoo doll.
You know that, right?
No, it's not.
Yeah, it is.
It's my Joseph.
Check your asshole.
You're not going to believe what I put in that doll
before the show started.
I go, if he asks one question that's stupid,
his ass is going to bleed.
Now, you have always told me how grateful you were of Chelsea because she gave you that great opportunity on her show and you absolutely murdered it on her show.
Yeah.
So you guys.
The way it rekindled was when I got the Variety magazine and they went to ask her for like a question.
And then we just, our relationship started
and it was like, it was crazy.
We just started talking.
I just wanted to be friends.
And then this relationship, it was cool.
It was cool.
She was coming at you, huh?
No, it was cool.
Like, I don't like, I don't even,
I don't even like spending time on this
because it was like, it was a cool relationship
and we broke up and unfortunately it didn't work out.
Yeah.
And that's fine but it was it
was it was fun while maybe maybe the commentary is because you guys were so publicly in a relationship
when we know that's that's what killed it too like i honestly we didn't know anything about
your love life before we knew you had a kid but i never wanted i never told anyone about my love
life even my ex like you know i keep that private you know and you know i I just don't like it because I have a kid.
He loved her.
It was fun, man.
But it was a breakup.
Yeah.
And when you're public, you don't want to be – I don't like seeing breakups where it's like they're fighting
and it's like, oh, I'm going to throw this person out.
That's just stupid.
That's juvenile, man.
It's like my life is, I've moved on.
I got a career to talk about.
I got my son to talk about.
I got, I ain't got time for all that drama, man.
He made you look so bad.
You look like such a piece of shit right now.
It's unbelievable.
I look like a piece of shit?
Hey, man.
I look like a piece of shit?
Hey, Andrew, no one has to tell you that.
Did you guys just double down on me looking like a piece of shit?
I'm a journalist here.
I'm a real journalist, and I have to ask the hard-hitting questions, okay?
I'm looking, I'm caring about you.
I see you in this relationship that you're very excited about.
And then I would watch more of the content,
and then there was moments where you looked frustrated.
You guys were cooking.
Yeah, that's called breaking up.
Yeah, but you had to cook through it.
Well, because we were so public.
But I mean, don't get me wrong.
I still, I enjoyed, I enjoyed Chelsea.
She's great.
She's fun.
Wouldn't she ask this question on her show
if she was interviewing?
I'm pretty, even if she did,
I don't want to pay that any mind or attention.
That energy doesn't need to go there anymore.
It feels like there's a new girl out there.
No, there's...
Why are you talking into my head like a microphone?
Yeah, exactly.
It feels like there's a new girl out there.
Somebody.
Do you feel him rubbing the back of your head right now?
Are you done with white women?
No, no.
Are you done with white women?
First of all, you mean Filipino women.
Wait, Chelsea's Filipino?
Yes.
Holy shit. They're everywhere, bro. Are you done with white women? First of all, you mean Filipino women. Wait, Chelsea's Filipino? Yes. Holy shit.
Yes.
They're everywhere, bro.
I fucking knew it.
Bro, these are all groundbreakers, man.
Huh?
Handler.
Roll the R.
Roll the R.
Handler.
Fuck, I'm so...
Dude, I'm bad.
I can only roll the R in the beginning of a sentence.
I literally had to train myself.
I lived in Spain, and I couldn't roll the R,
so I'd walk down the street just going,
rrrr, rrrr.
Practice.
Every single day for six months.
Dude, I still can't do it.
Rrrr.
Oh, there you go.
But I can do it in the beginning, not the end.
Handler, rrrr.
So there's two names.
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Her middle name is rrrr.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That was feisty.
Okay, good. So there's a new woman
You're in love with
And then
How did you guys meet
What is that
There's no one in my life
No one
No
I don't like this
Because you have so much
Fucking love to give
You're one of the
Sweetest guys ever
You're incredibly talented
And you're too rich
To be single
This is the thing
Ever since he got married
I'm married
He got married
He wants everyone
In a relationship
Government half Wife half I have a little bit This is the thing, ever since he got married You're too rich, I'm married He got married, he wants everyone in a relationship Government, half
Wife, half
Yeah
I have a little bit
You have it all
That's not a fraction of work
Four forums
The staples
I'll run the list again, yeah
Go
Honda Center twice
You're playing the volcano in Hawaii
Toyota Center twice
You're playing the volcano
I was told you're playing the volcano in Hawaii
I played it I was told Would you be mad if I told you I're playing a volcano in Hawaii.
I played it.
Would you be mad if I told you I'm playing it?
I would not be mad.
I'm actually playing a volcano.
It's an amphitheater.
Joseph.
Yes.
Keep going.
Because you want to know if you think I'm lying.
I believe you.
But you think I'm telling the truth.
At this point, I believe everything. You want more to see if I'm lying. Yes. There's But you think I'm telling the truth. At this point, I believe everything.
You want more to see if I'm lying?
Yes.
There's an amphitheater in Kauai that's actually inside of a volcano.
Get the fuck out of here.
Do you remember we were there?
They protested a 20-meter telescope.
It's 40,000 seats. And they like this.
It's 40,000 seats.
40,000 seats.
And that's Hawaiian seats, which are 10 seats.
10 seats. 10 seats. And that's Hawaiian seats, which are... 10. 10 seats. 10 seats.
10 seats.
And I sold that shit out quick.
Quick.
Quick.
And where will you put...
Does your new girls go to the shows?
How does that...
You mean girls.
Oh!
He's Mormon, too.
You are Hawaiian.
Let's go.
That's 10 Hawaiian girls.
Tongans.
Tongans are Hawaiian. Which is equivalent. That's 10 Hawaiian girls. Tongans. Tongans are Hawaiians.
Which is equivalent to 40,000 white women.
Wow.
The conversion rate is high.
That's crazy.
It's crazy, man.
Dude.
Get with me, man.
Yeah, I feel you.
I feel you.
Join the team, bro.
Join the team.
Join the team.
You don't have to cut so many cameras, bro.
One iPhone.
That's all I got.
One iPhone.
I want you to know I'm on board.
Josh knows.
I mean, Joe, it's truly remarkable.
You're so dumb.
You're dumb.
You are a dumb.
Hold on, now, Joe.
Hold on, hold on.
Not the journalist glasses.
He always does that.
Not for me.
Listen.
Hold on. Hold on now. the journalist glasses. He always does that. Not for me. Listen. Hold on.
Hold on now.
Joseph, listen.
Listen.
Listen.
Listen.
I want us to have a serious interview.
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
So then can we cut the last question?
Yeah.
That is that.
So look.
Here it is.
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Come on.
You are the worst.
You're the worst.
When are you ready to leave?
I'll take you.
I'll take you on the road.
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to the show. Okay, Joseph.
Yes. Just real
quick, this Netflix
special that's coming out right now,
if you could objectively rank it.
It's my best one. Really?
It's my best one. I liked Wow. It's my best one.
Okay, so then here's my question.
I liked how I wrote.
You know, I was always struggling with my closer on this one,
and then it just came right at the last second.
I mean, for like almost a year and a half, I was just like,
I can't figure this fucking thing out.
I knew what I wanted to
say. Story or? It's story. Okay. And I knew how I wanted to tie it in, but it just wasn't hitting
everywhere I went. It was just long. It was too wordy. It was just like, I was trying to cut fat
and then it wasn't getting what I wanted. I wasn't getting the emotion that I wanted.
And then one day I, you ever land on that one word that you needed?
Yep.
It's just one word.
Yep.
It's one fucking word.
And it was this one night I hit this word.
It just came out of my mouth.
I was like, there it is.
And I had it.
I was like, there it is.
I want to ask you the word,
but you just gave the best pitch
for everybody to go watch the special.
So I don't want to know the word so that we all go watch the special, so I don't want to know the word
so that we all go watch the special.
Because I have to go see it. But there's a lot
riding on this word. Is it the N word?
No.
No.
And we'll be
right back after these messages.
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that.
Okay, so best special.
Best special.
Now, here's the question.
How do you develop now that you're doing – because I'll be honest.
I found it hard.
Like, this was my first tour where I started to do what I think are bigger venues.
They're a fraction of the size of the venues you do, but I think are pretty big.
And I found it harder to work out on the road.
Yours are big.
They're not the fucking volcano
in Hawaii. Yeah. Okay. But, but at the same time, I remember when you were doing this, dude,
I remember watching you go from clubs to theaters to fucking arenas. And I remember seeing that,
that jump. It was, it was really unbelievable. And, uh, but what I'm curious is, is, are you
working out in clubs? I remember watching you at a club just working out, and my mouth dropped.
And I hugged you.
I hugged you that night.
Where were we?
It was Gotham.
Oh, my God.
Yes.
It was before I even knew who you were.
I didn't even know you were fucking with Charlemagne or anything.
And I walked right up to you.
I ran up to you.
Aw.
Yeah.
Thank you.
And I hugged you, and I was just like, you're fucking brilliant.
I hugged you tight. I remember that. Yeah. Thank you. And I hugged you, and I was just like, you're fucking brilliant. I hugged you tight.
I remember that.
Yeah, man.
When I see someone that's just like extremely.
What a piece of shit, dude.
I didn't forget it.
I didn't forget it.
I didn't forget it.
I remember that.
Yeah, you forgot.
It's fine.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
I did.
That's your closer.
That's the word.
He said, yabba, dabba, dabba, doo.
No, but I remember, I just, I love watching a comic that, I don't know, like I love comedy so much.
And you know when someone's being genuine.
And like you can either have a story to tell that's very genuine or you can be your genuine self on stage.
As long as you're doing those two things, then to me, you're a comedian.
When I see you, when I can actually see the words on the page come out of your mouth,
then I stop listening to you.
It feels like you're reading.
Yeah, I stop listening to you.
And then when I don't see, like, I know when you're ad-libbing and I know when you're improvising.
I know. And I can also watch your act. Thisbing and I know when you're improvising. I know.
Yeah, yeah.
And I can also watch your act.
This is just me, all right?
But I can watch someone's act and I can already write a tag
and I can also get a callback in there while you're on stage.
Yeah.
And when I'm on stage, I like to do that.
You hit.
So, like, when I'm talking and it hits, it comes out right away.
I don't censor myself.
So, when I see that, I get really excited.
You get excited, yeah, yeah.
And I remember watching you that night, and I was like, oh, this is special.
Oh, thank you, man.
Yeah, and I think that was like 10 years ago.
Yeah, this is probably a while now.
Or eight years ago.
Yeah.
Right?
I'm pretty sure.
Maybe before you came on Brilliant Idiots for the first time.
Yeah, but even then, that was like a year or years after. Yeah, yeah, Right? I'm pretty sure. Maybe before you came on Brilliant Idiots for the first time. Yeah.
But even then, that was like a year or years after.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember hugging you.
I still remember what you were wearing.
What was I wearing?
You were wearing a denim jacket and dark pants.
Yeah.
Dark pants and a denim jacket.
And you had to hurry up and go to another spot.
And I just was like, oh, that guy's good.
Aw, dude.
Hi.
There's a lot of guys I see.
I saw, before the pandemic, I saw, I was, you know, because I like to go up at like
open mics and shit, right?
Dude, that, I love that.
I saw you go up at one in Hawaii.
Yeah, I go up at, I did one in the Philippines, and it was in the basement.
It's like some pool hall.
And I went up, and then the two guys that went up before me,
they were funny.
I was like,
hey, you want to go up
in an arena?
And I put them up
in my arena.
That's so cool.
How did they do
in the arena?
They ate shit.
But you know what I mean?
You gave them a shot.
You know what I mean?
I gave them a shot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They did all right.
They did all right.
I just...
You know what she said
they did all right?
They ate shit.
They ate shit. And he's like, no, no, no, they did all right? They did all right. They ate shit. They ate shit.
And he's like, no, no, no.
They did all right.
They did all right.
That means they bombed.
If Joe Coy says he did all right, you ate your balls.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
So wait, you go up and-
I'll go up anywhere.
I know.
And then are you doing material?
You just riffing with people?
No, I'll just riff, yeah.
Are you not worried about the pressure of all these people that admire you?
No.
One time I was in Cleveland and I was doing some thing.
At an open mic?
And I pulled up on my tour bus in front of an open mic.
I love it.
That's so sick.
I love it.
It was so fun.
I got out and it was like I was next to a TV set.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like they had like these fold curtains to separate the bar from like where I was going up.
And I went up.
And then I got everyone on my bus.
I put those comics on the bus and then we went and it was fun.
But I saw, I was, before the pandemic,
before the pandemic I went to a pool hall, right?
They were doing open mic and the big pool table in the middle of the room.
And then off in the corners where the microphone was and I was about to go up
and this good looking guy with a mustache, muscular,
he was just killing it, killing it. And I was just like, oh, oh, fuck, I'm going to
fuck with this guy. Who is this guy? He's crushing. And he gets off stage, because I
had to go up after him. And he got off stage, I'm going to talk to him when I get off stage.
So I went up and I got off and he was gone. And I'm like, I was asking the guy I was with,
I was like,
do you know,
good looking,
good guy with people.
I don't remember his name
and I guess he was just
a surprise set
or he just went up,
his name wasn't on the list
and no one would tell me his name
and then he haunted me
for like six, seven months
and then all of a sudden
I went to Netflix
and he pops up.
He was on like some
stand-up special
and it was Matteo Lane.
I go,
that's him.
Hilarious. Yo. I go, that's him!
I go, that's him!
And then I DM'd him that night.
I DM'd him and I go,
bro, you're fucking brilliant. And when this pandemic's done, I want to
fuck with you.
Seriously. This is how progressive you are.
That Matteo Lane you describe as handsome
with a mustache and not gay.
Not gay as fuck.
And I go, I want to fuck after that.
And we remained friends during the pandemic.
We love Mateo.
Yeah, he was incredible.
And then I had him open for me at Brooklyn.
And then he's going to open for me at Madison Square Garden.
When are you in Garden?
I want to come to that.
November 10th.
You have to buy a ticket.
I'll support. I'll do whatever I can. No, I'd to come to that. November 10th. You have to buy a ticket. I'll support.
I'll do whatever I can.
No, I'd love for you to be there, man.
I just want to see it.
Are you there right before UFC?
Oh, that's the weekend of the big fight.
The 10th is Thursday, right?
I don't know.
Oh, yeah, it is.
It is.
Yeah, yeah, huge fight.
Izzy, stylebender.
Oh, Izzy?
Yeah.
Oh, man, I love him.
Stay in town.
Go watch the fight.
You have other shows. It's that weekend, Yeah. Oh, man, I love him. Stay in town. Go watch the fight. You have other shows.
It's that weekend, right?
Yeah, so you're there Thursday.
Yeah, I'm gone.
You have to leave.
Yeah.
He has other arenas to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can you tell the story real quick about...
Well, I'm going to challenge some more guys.
Oh, yeah, yeah, go, go, go.
J.R. De Guzman, Andrew Lopez.
Andrew!
Asif Ali
and of course
Mateo Lane
like those are my favorites
like those guys
make me ooh
like Beth Stelling
like those
when I see them
I'm like ooh
I like that
I like what they're doing
can you
okay now can you
tell a story
yeah yeah
okay
so
is it going to be
a real one
no this is
this is well I don't know you gotta tell me when this is a real Okay. Is it going to be a real one? No, this is, well, I don't know.
You've got to tell me when.
This is a real story.
Would you want this to be a real talk?
This is a real story.
This is a real story.
This is, okay.
Ready?
We're going to, okay.
Now I feel pressure to do a fake one.
But it was real, what I wanted before.
Yeah.
Okay, it's the story about when you were, I think,
taping the Netflix special for the first one,
and you didn't like the first set,
and then the second set, you just kind of like winged it in the beginning.
Yeah.
The first set, I was so pissed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's when I cried.
And this is when you put up all the money.
I put up all the money.
They were like, we're not going to buy it,
so you have nowhere to go with that.
I had nowhere to go.
And then the first set, it was just, everything was fucked up, man. That's why if you're going to do, if you're going to tape, like, we're not going to buy it. So, you have nowhere to go with that. I had nowhere to go. And then the first set, it was just everything was fucked up, man.
That's why if you're going to do, if you're going to tape, right, the cool thing about that is I learned everything.
Yeah.
And it's just like, you know, well, you shot your special, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, like, you know, like, you learn things.
Like, you watch other specials.
You get it.
We did four shows on purpose.
Yeah, you have to.
Yeah.
I'm, like, the entire audience.
You know that, right? Yes, you have to. Yeah, you have to. I mic the entire audience. You know that, right?
Yes, you have to.
Yeah, you have to.
I had microphones in the second balcony all the way to the back.
Smart.
That's why people go, oh, he's got a laugh track.
I was like, no, motherfucker.
I got everyone's laughter on tape.
100%.
Like, I got it.
Yeah.
But, like, I remember we shot that first one.
That's so smart, by the way, because sometimes comics put out these specials, and it sounds like they're bombing.
Yeah, because they're picking up all the audio from their handheld. It's like smart, by the way, because sometimes comics put out these specials and it sounds like they're bombing. Yeah, because they're picking up
all the audio from their handheld. It's like,
what are you doing? You need to recreate the sound
of the room. The only way to do that
is to have microphones in the fucking
room. And it's so funny because
I studied every, like, I only
watched the specials that I enjoyed watching
to learn how to shoot my
special. And
what I fell in love with on sound was Dana Carvey's.
I saw Dana Carvey's.
I go, this doesn't sound real.
I go, what is this?
Like this, I feel like I'm there.
And then I gave it to my sound engineer.
And he goes, oh, he just added more mics.
He goes, that's easy.
He goes, most specials, they only do like two boom mics on the stage.
So stupid.
Because they can just get in the front people.
They're only in the front.
And it doesn't sound full.
He goes, Dana went all the way to the back.
And I go, well, whatever Dana got, double it.
And that's what we did.
You know who else did fucking amazing sound design was when Burr did the theater in England.
The Royal Albert or something like that.
Nice.
And I thought, because the bigger the venue, the harder it is to do a set.
Way harder, yeah.
Because you're starting to catch the echo of the mic as well as the audience,
and you've got to find a way to separate those two, whatever.
And the way that he did his in a venue that size with great acoustics,
sometimes venues that have good acoustics.
I don't understand that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, I'll play, I'm sorry to switch, right? Go, go, go good acoustics, I don't understand that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, like I play,
like I'll play,
I'm sorry to switch, right?
Go, go, go, go.
I just don't understand.
We live in a time
where we got computers,
we got everything that you need.
You can base,
you can base the design
of your room
just by going
to the perfect theater.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, you guys have
perfect sound,
okay, let's get
the best engineers
and let's figure this out
and we'll make it over here.
Yeah.
No one wants to do that.
You go to San Antonio,
it's like you're playing
in a fucking ice cave.
It's like, what is wrong in here?
I put every fucking microphone in here.
We bought extra speakers.
We brought everything
and it sounds awful.
And then you go to Phoenix.
I'm just telling you right now,
you go to Phoenix and you play-
The one in the round?
No, no, that's Celebrity. I play arenas. I'm sorry. Where they play, you go to Phoenix and you play One of the round? No, no, that's celebrity
I play arenas
Where they play basketball?
Where they play basketball
Not where the convention is
So silly
The sun
Where the suns play
Are you talking about the Tempe improv?
No, that is the best venue I've ever been in.
Interesting.
Really?
Yeah, it was incredible.
I couldn't believe it.
It felt like I was playing at a comedy club.
Yeah.
I forget what it's called, but where the Suns play.
Yeah, where the Suns play.
It was incredible.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What?
Never mind.
What?
No, you're doing that thing now.
No, I'm not doing that thing.
No, you're doing that thing.
This is incredibly important to me, the sound for a comedy special specifically.
Yeah.
He's obsessive about it.
I'm obsessed.
Footprint setter.
Good.
I am absolutely obsessed with it.
Even when I started putting out clips originally, I was like, yeah, this is the differentiating factor.
It's like, well, obviously you need to have the jokes and all these things need to be there.
But I feel like energy exchange between comic and audience
is integral to enjoying it at home.
And if the comic looks like he's giving too much
and the audience isn't giving enough,
even if they are,
but it feels as if they're not,
there's this awkwardness that you feel.
Yes, yes.
And I don't ever want somebody at home
to feel that awkwardness.
And also-
And the people who get it, sorry,
but the people who get it
and who have done it well,
the comics who've done it well, the people who watch the special don't realize what's happening.
They just go, I just really loved watching that.
Yeah. It's an unconscious reaction for them.
And that's something that we need to be aware of.
Yeah.
Because they don't know exactly what's happening.
They don't know they're being brought into the room.
Literally the beginning of the special we just put out, the first few lines is,
turn up the volume on your TV.
It's specifically been designed to bring you into the room.
And yeah, I just love that you paid attention to it like that.
And I also think that sometimes the old rooms...
I like how you light up your room.
Okay, go on that.
Well, I just know that, one, your crowd work is spot on.
That's your signature.
By the way, my crowd work is fucking amazing.
No, I was just about to say.
Where's my camera?
I was just about to say.
It's over there.
It's right back there.
My crowd work is amazing.
I don't know which one to look at.
They're all red.
Right here, buddy.
Absolutely kill it.
So this one?
Yeah, just that one.
Just look at that camera right there. Yeah So absolutely kill it. So this one. Yeah. Just that one. Just look at
that camera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you have to like them. Oopsie. What a
shame. Yeah. Do you have to show them? But I think sometimes the old venues that have the acoustics,
they're basically built before technology. Yeah. They were built when people were just talking
to a thousand people or two thousand people.
Now you don't have to deal with these things.
But sometimes when you put speakers in there, because the acoustics were so good naturally,
it echoes like crazy when you add the speakers.
That's the tricky thing.
That is the tricky thing.
Not with the suns.
It's a lot easier.
Yeah.
Because they're used to loud noises.
But then there's also those venues that were made like 70 years ago and it's just like fucking perfect.
Well, when did we get sound?
Like Bob Hope Theater, I think it's called.
I don't know where it's at,
but I just remember talking to the guy.
I'm like, how old is he?
He's like, Charlie Chaplin used to perform here.
And I'm just like, this is incredible.
He didn't have...
Yeah, he was silent.
How did they even...
Why would they care?
He had no sound.
He wasn't mute.
Yeah, he was a mute.
Do you think he was a mute? Look at me, look at me. How did they even, why would they care? He had no sound. He wasn't mute. Yeah, he was a mute. Do you think he was a mute?
Look at me, look at me.
Hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, Joseph.
What?
That was maybe the worst example of a performer that you could have possibly used for sound.
Do you know what I mean?
They captured his walk perfectly.
They got every footstep.
What?
He has a whole
Charlie Chaplin,
that's his whole thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Joseph, don't take that.
Don't take that, Joseph.
I'm not going to say this,
but I think he also did
Charlie Chaplin
like an unplugged,
which was like a reverse.
Ah.
Where he actually spoke.
Like a Nirvana set.
And then didn't do anything.
It was like,
you know what I mean?
He's like,
I know you guys,
you came to see me live.
Yeah.
You don't want to see me quiet
because that's what you always see. This is me. Hi, I know you guys, you came to see me live. Yeah. You don't want to see me quiet because that's what you always see.
This is me.
Hi, I'm Charlie.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
And they have that.
It's on Blu-ray.
I was also wild to see an Asian person go, hi, I'm Charlie.
Like that.
He'll be right back after these messages.
But yeah, shout outs to Charlie Chaplin, dude.
Big inspiration for you.
He was one of the reasons why I do stand-up.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, now I see.
He was, dude.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, man.
Okay, can I ask a question?
Yeah.
Okay.
If not stand-up, is there any other form of entertainment that you think that you would succeed in?
Directing.
Ooh.
So behind the camera.
What about in front of the camera?
I like it.
I don't mind it.
But I really love stand-up.
Yeah.
And if I'm going to be in front of the camera, I want to perform that way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But behind the camera, I love it.
Do you want to direct stand-up specials for other people?
Yeah.
We're already in the works.
Really?
Yeah.
Can we talk about who?
Well, after, no, we can't.
But, yeah, we want to get these deals done.
Yes.
And I'm going to knock it out of the park because I'm going to do it the right way.
Yes. Yeah. You get it. Yeah, you get it. I love watching. And I'm going to knock it out of the park because I'm going to do it the right way. Yes.
Yeah.
You get it.
Yeah, you get it.
I love watching.
What you did was incredible, man.
That was cool.
Thank you, man.
Yeah.
And yours was awesome too.
Thank you, buddy.
Thank you.
I love it when people share the light, you know?
Yeah.
It's beautiful.
I like seeing you with the platform that you have
and the, what do you call this?
This is beyond, I don't even know what this is.
What you've built is just amazing.
We built it.
This is a big team.
I know, but you say that all the time, and I love that, man.
Yeah, of course.
That's so cool.
And your team is what makes you who you are.
More fun that way.
It's cool.
Yeah, man.
Like, I don't understand these gatekeepers, bro.
Yeah.
That old school mentality
is just so lame.
I'm so sick of it.
I wish you would shout out
your team more.
That was one of the things
that I always thought about.
Well, you were on my team.
And then what happened?
Man, you...
Too specific, right?
Too specific, bro.
I don't like Filipinos, bro.
Dude, I really thought Ted Serrano was Filipino, man, when you said that.
Because the name could be Filipino.
Yeah, except his face.
Oh, but I've never seen his face.
Oh, you haven't?
No.
No, it's not like that.
Ted's very nice, by the way.
No, yes.
He's a great guy.
Yes, he is.
I like him.
Yeah.
Ted is a figment of my imagination.
He exists in the ether somewhere.
But it's okay. You know what I mean? Stop price. Ted is a figment of my imagination. He exists in the ether somewhere. But it's okay.
You know what I mean?
Stop price.
What are you going to do?
This guy's an animal, right?
This guy's just an animal, dude.
Ukraine or Russia?
How many more commercial breaks can we do?
That's an easy one.
That's actually an easy one.
Yeah, like, have you thought about which side you're on?
I'll be on a pretty clear side.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, man.
You know what I mean?
Right?
That's the best way to answer a tough question.
Jesus.
Yeah, man.
Yeah.
Totally, dude.
Totally, dude.
I totally.
Ukraine and Russia. 100. 100. 100, dude. Totally, dude. I totally. Ukraine and Russia.
100.
100, dude.
Like.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is, hey, what is your favorite number?
Mine?
Yeah.
You know what it is.
What is it?
Seven.
Is it?
No.
But isn't there like a superstition in Tagalog?
Oh, I knew that this was going to go somewhere when I started this line of questioning.
Because you saw the eight on my arm?
Yes.
Did you see what I just did?
This guy.
Chosen one.
Listen.
Okay.
You chose the wrong number.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why is seven the most dangerous number?
I don't know. Because seven, eight, nine
fucking asshole.
You go, you idiot.
I pulled back.
I pulled back.
Remember what I said earlier? I don't like those guys.
I know. I fucking pulled back.
I don't like it.
Fuck, dude.
I like you too much.
I can't be mean.
Okay. But that is a very I can't be mean. Okay.
But that is a very astute observation of mine.
Yes.
You want to ask him why?
Wait, why is eight your favorite number?
I don't know.
I always liked eight.
I like the infinity aspect of it that it looks.
But it's also my birth number.
All my numbers add up to eight.
So my birthday adds up to eight.
So I just like eight.
That's my number, yeah.
Okay.
I didn't think we were going to get this deep.
Can I get my sunglasses?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
No, man.
Fuck that, dude.
Sunglass koi is a problem, dude.
What do you think?
Let me have those glasses, please.
Can I see which type these are?
Ooh.
Black.
Oh, black label.
Oh.
Oh, shit, bro.
Oh.
Yo, do you know what I like that you do?
I own these, by the way.
I know.
I assumed.
Wait a minute.
The company?
Yeah.
Oh, sick.
I assumed.
This is mine.
I assumed he asked for a reason, you know?
Oh, that's nice.
I'm just doing this because you're doing it.
All right.
I feel like an asshole doing it.
No, no, no.
You're not an asshole.
We're locked in LA together.
I mean, you,
wow, you're fucking
intimidating with those
glasses on.
My eyes are closed,
by the way.
I can see they're not.
That was a racist joke
you made.
Listen, Joe.
I can't do this.
Joe, Joe.
I can't, I can't, I can't.
Come on, Joe.
I can't.
Joe, can we do it for the culture?
Yes.
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I have a question.
I'm curious.
Has there ever been someone that came to your shows?
Thank God.
Yes.
Has there ever been a person that came to your shows that really meant a lot to you?
You're doing this big arena, and all of a sudden you find out, oh, my God.
Good question.
This person just showed up.
They want to meet you.
You're in this big arena and all of a sudden you find out, oh my God, this person just showed up.
I think my favorite, I think my personal favorite is Chris asking about me, Chris Rock.
Oh, really? I thought that was like my, that was my.
I don't know what that was.
Moving.
He said the editor's upstairs.
They get rowdy.
Do they physically edit?
Yeah, yeah, they do.
They don't use a mouse?
Yeah, they're chopping tape out. It's a straight edge cutter. Yeah, exactly, they did. They don't use a mouse? Yeah, they're chopping tape.
It's a straight edge cutter.
Yeah, exactly.
It's actual film.
Yeah, it's analog, you know?
It's more honest.
No, Chris, that was my favorite.
What was this?
What happened?
It was in the city, and he just was asking, he was asking my agent, I guess we have the
same agent or something, and then he came up and we were talking.
And I thought that was just like, oh, fuck, yes, you don't know what you did for me.
You know what I mean?
You don't know what bringing the pain did for me.
And how far along were you when he came up to you?
That was just recently.
Oh, really?
Yeah, that was like two years ago.
And I was just like, wow. Was he looking for a muscular guy with a mustache? That's the way he really? Yeah, that was like two years ago. And I was just like, wow.
Was he looking for a muscular guy with a mustache?
That's who he wanted?
Yeah.
He went Schultz?
No, no.
You're thinking of a different Filipino guy.
I'm Filipino, bro.
Huh?
I'm Filipino, dude.
Bro, we're all Filipino.
What about you is Filipino?
What do you mean?
Nothing about you is Filipino.
My box?
Okay, that's a little Filipino. I dance. That's one Filipino, to be honest with you. That's is Filipino. What do you mean? Nothing about you is Filipino. I box. Okay, that's a little Filipino.
I dance.
That's one Filipino, to be honest with you.
That's one Filipino.
No, but I think Filipinos are excellent boxers.
Brian Valoria.
Yeah.
The Hawaiian Punch.
Yeah.
Okay.
The Hawaiian Punch.
But his name's his Hawaiian.
That's his name.
You know Brian.
Yeah, man.
He's a beast.
Yes.
Okay, so other than fighting and boxing, I mean, ethnically you're not Filipino.
Fighting and boxing are also the same thing.
I think Filipino is more of like a feeling.
That's what I feel.
If you feel Filipino.
You feel Filipino.
If you feel Filipino.
I feel Filipino.
When I'm around you, I feel at home.
That's how I feel about you.
That's why we're fucking Filipinos, dude.
That's why we're all Filipino.
Is it true that Filipinos sometimes wipe with the rock in the bucket?
Is that a thing?
I need this guy to leave.
Is that?
I'm curious.
I'm not doing the show
until you leave.
This is a cultural question.
We do not do that.
I need this guy to leave right now.
You fucking cracker.
Which was my camera.
Call him a cracker.
You wipe with your hand,
which is a little Filipino
also of yours.
I don't wipe with my hand.
I wipe with the rock.
I use the rock in the bucket, dude.
Is that what you do?
Yes, I do.
Don't you for the dingleberries and shit?
Yeah, the hard parts.
Yeah.
What do you wipe with?
Charmin?
Yeah.
I use a wet wipe, okay?
Dude, it's like the first world.
It's like how comfy does wiping your ass need to be?
Yeah.
A little.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you know?
I use a bidet.
See?
Thank you.
That's variation of you.
Really?
Yeah.
G's up.
I respect that.
G's up.
Where's my camera?
This one right here.
Oh, you told me this several times.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's my camera right there.
Are you really bidet?
Yeah, man.
No, come on.
You don't have one?
I enjoy it too much.
I just start fucking beating dick on it and stuff like that.
It's crazy, man.
You'd wash the front.
Yep.
He actually has one.
You would wash it.
You would wipe your ass and wash your dick.
He sits backwards a lot on the toilet.
That's how Andrew would do it.
Like that.
And then wash my dick.
Reverse cowgirl.
I go reverse cowgirl, man.
Every single time.
No, you'd just sit like this.
Just wash your little dick right there.
And then you wipe your ass like that.
Why does it have to be little, bro?
No, little dick is not describing how big it is.
Oh, I thought it sounded like that.
It's just funnier to say little dick.
Oh, okay.
All right.
He actually had a bidet and he couldn't install it.
Yeah, I didn't know how to install it.
You're not supposed to.
I'm Filipino, dude.
I'm not an installer of things.
No, you're not.
I'm a fixer.
We're fixing people.
You fix things. I fix. No, you're not. I'm a fixer. We're fixing people. You fix things.
I fix.
Yes, you do.
Duh.
It's one of the things, yeah.
You know what I mean?
You're right.
Can we tell everybody about us?
Because that's the thing that annoys me.
Filipino cuisine.
You know, Filipinos love their food.
Gluck Gluck.
3,000.
Gluck Gluck 3,000?
That is my favorite.
What is a Gluck Gluck 3,000? What is my favorite. What is a Gluck Gluck 3,000?
What is a what?
What?
What are you talking about, Joe?
That's a video game.
No, it isn't.
It's a video.
You're a fucking asshole.
It's a video.
That's a video game.
It is.
It feels like a video game.
It's just like a little Filipino guy climbing a tree.
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No, but that is my favorite.
Yeah.
Good.
Yeah.
I like that.
I don't know.
Filipino music?
I mean, do you know anything about?
Karaoke, mostly.
It's my favorite.
That's a Filipino music.
That is mine.
Yeah.
I like that one.
Of course you do.
Yeah.
I mean, it seems like you're trying to question whether or not. Well, you don't seem anything like Joe, so that's why I'm bringing it up.
It's weird.
Look at how we're sitting.
Look at where our pants go.
Watches, we're into it.
Watches.
You know, glasses.
Great teeth.
Yeah, that's true.
Mine's fake.
I wouldn't say that. Are yours real? Not, I mean, technically, but I got's true. Mine's fake. I wouldn't say that.
Are yours real?
Not, I mean, technically, but I got them moved around by something fake.
So our smiles are equally fake.
Invisalign.
Veneers.
Yeah.
20 grand?
Oh, God.
40?
Did you get a gold one or like a diamond in there?
No, I didn't. Oh, you should have. If I get veneers, that's what I'm doing. No, I spent a? Did you get a gold one or like a diamond in there? No, I didn't.
Oh, you should have.
If I get veneers, that's what I'm doing.
No, I spent a lot of money on my veneers.
It sucked.
It sucked.
But worth it?
How much did it change your life?
Oh, so worth it.
My teeth were so bad.
Can I ask you?
I fell on a rock when I was a kid.
Broke all four of my teeth.
Were you wiping your ass?
Yeah.
It's a thing that we do, okay?
That was one of the best callbacks.
You're not going to shit on his callback.
All right?
Don't.
Let him enjoy that.
Let him get his applause.
That was good.
That's a good callback.
And he deserves all the flowers.
Now, this is when you broke your femur?
How do you know this?
What do you mean, how do I know this?
You think that I do research?
I'm a fucking journalist, dude.
I know you broke your femur in an accident that involved
riding a bicycle.
Motorcycle.
Motorcycle, sorry.
Yeah.
And do you think
that it was
your Asian part
was responsible?
Oh, buddy.
This is another racial
year.
Racist thing.
It went from
something very nice
to do these racist things
sometimes.
What is happening right now?
You were nice.
You made me do that.
I didn't do anything.
I said bicycles so we could stay away from it.
Now you're a victim.
You brought in a motorized vehicle.
And then you went.
And my brain fucking went there.
And then your brain went.
Prejudice.
No.
No.
Prejudice.
You got very specific.
Filipino.
You got very specific.
That's what my brain did right there.
My brain was Filipino right there.
And I hear even to this day that if we poke around on that little thigh meat,
that you're missing a little thigh meat.
I am missing thigh meat.
Oh, is that true?
Yeah, it's a fucking devastating injury at 14 years old, bro.
Don't take those off the heart.
How does he know this?
What do you mean, how do I know?
You don't think that I do research when we have incredibly important guests?
Then tell me what kind of break I had.
What kind of break did I have?
You broke your femur.
Yeah, but what kind?
Gluck-gluck?
Compound fracture.
A gluck-gluck. You had a gluck-gluck. Compound fracture. A gluck-gluck.
You had a gluck-gluck.
No, you did have a compound fracture.
It's absolutely crazy what happened to you.
Like, the fact that your legs aren't even different lengths.
I know.
Like, usually at that age.
No pins.
What do you mean no pins?
They didn't put any metal pins or anything.
Well, then how did they set the bone if it was compound?
They stuck a pin through my shin and pulled it with weights for six months.
Whoa.
And just let it grow back together.
When you said no pins before.
Yeah.
And you just chose to lie directly to my skin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How did that make you feel inside?
Yeah, there's no internal pins.
That was an external pin.
All right, Al.
Yeah.
I forgot I had to explain.
You do.
Everything.
Listen, what did you say earlier?
I'm dumb.
I said gluck, gluck.
That's what you heard.
That is what I heard.
Okay, so you got lucky that that thing straightened out.
Yeah.
Okay.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
And now still some meat missing here.
A lot of meat missing.
Jesus.
Jesus, dude.
That's crazy, man.
I know.
I'm not pulling my pants down, Andrew.
Can I poke him?
You want to?
I want it.
Can you make me a little pokey ball?
Will you poke it?
I will poke it.
Will you poke it?
I will poke it.
If you show me the place that's missing the meat, I will give you a little poke.
I'll give you a little tickle.
Do you still feel?
Do you still have the nerves?
Are you in touch with him?
I'm sorry.
What did you say?
No, no, no.
He was asking, what did you say?
Would you still feel it? Do you still have the nerves intact and all that? No, I don't feel right sorry. No, no, no. He was asking, what did you say? Would you still feel it?
Do you still have the nerves in the back and all that?
No, I don't feel it right here.
Wait, for real?
Yeah.
So like right here, just this area right here.
I mean, it makes sense.
Do you want to touch it?
Yeah.
This is so creepy.
No, it's not.
Wait, are you going to...
Okay, go.
I just need you to get a little closer.
With my mouth or with...
With your mouth.
That's the only way I can I got it
I'll get you in it
It looks special
We used the headliner man
Come on
Look look look
See the whole leg's messed up
Oh shit
You were about to take a bite out of that
Yeah
You are Filipino
That's crazy
I can't pull this down
No you don't have to pull it down
I mean I could just put my finger in it
But it's fine
You want to put
Go ahead put your finger in it
But bend over though
Bend over
No okay
That has nothing to do with the fracture You don't have to pull it down. I mean, I could just put my finger in it, but it's fine. Go ahead. Put your finger in it. But bend over, though. Bend over. No, okay.
That has nothing to do with the fracture.
And I still don't feel it.
It was my little finger.
It was the little finger.
Put another finger in it.
Ooh, he does today. Okay.
So, and I was told you never drove a motorcycle again.
No, that's done.
I'm done.
And I don't think anyone should ride a motorcycle.
Wait, you have one.
No.
You have one?
This guy has a motorcycle.
I have an electric bike.
I don't like those either.
Thank you.
I don't like those either.
Yeah.
Yeah, young shifty.
Oh, yeah, electric bike's fine. Electric bike you should. Yeah, young shifty. Oh, yeah.
Electric bike's fine.
Electric bike's fine.
He motorcycles.
Well, what happened in your accident?
Did someone hit you or did you?
Yeah, I hit head on with another motorcycle.
Another motorcycle.
See, that's the issue.
If someone else is riding a motorcycle, that's where it gets dangerous.
Yeah. If it's just me, then there's no problem.
No, no, no.
There was two.
What the fuck are you talking about?
That made no sense.
I'm just saying, you crashed into another motorcycle.
It seems like it was his fault.
No, but it was...
But what I'm saying is it doesn't matter...
Yeah, but if it was a car, he'd be dead.
If you're on a motorcycle, it doesn't matter whose fault it is.
It doesn't matter.
You're always going to lose.
Yep.
You're on a motorcycle.
What if you dodge out of the way?
You're not going to dodge out of the way.
That's why it's called an accident.
No, no, no.
If you go fast...
No.
No.
This guy's ridiculous.
If you turn the handlebars when the car's coming...
I don't want you to die.
I'm not going to die, okay?
Whoa!
I'm going to die eventually.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, but it's going to be a lot sooner than you think.
I already know by the way you're answering these questions.
You just go like this really fast.
Yeah, man, that's what you do.
And that's what Evil did too.
And what happened to him?
He fucking...
He got cancer.
Yeah.
He died of cancer.
And he was a great golfer, by the way.
Is that true?
Great, yeah.
I didn't know that.
He actually made more money golfing than he did.
Good driver.
Yeah.
He's going to die.
So this is probably the last...
I feel like you're going to kill me.
See, this seems threatening.
Now I'm nervous.
No, and you ride in the city?
This is the worst place.
This is the best place to drive.
Everyone drives so slow.
The guy's crazy.
Yeah.
He's actually a concern about us. Is there a helmet law here?
Yeah. Okay, well, at least that.
But they don't want to keep his brain.
They want to use the other body parts.
What would you use from him?
I'm going to donate all of it. Are you?
Yeah, whatever you want. It's yours.
Hair. I'll take the fucking
thigh. I'll take the thigh meat.
I might as well give you some now. I don't even know if I have to die for it. I'll take some of that. I'll take the thigh meat back. I might as well give you some now.
I don't even know if I have to die for it.
Yeah, I'll take some of that.
I'll give you a piece of that as we're talking.
Yeah, I'll take that.
Now, Joe, listen.
We know that you have a very busy day,
so obviously we're not going to take all your time here,
but Alex was a nurse and experienced prejudice from our people
when he was a nurse.
Did you know that?
Mm-mm.
You mean I'm Filipino.
Are you really?
Come on, we brothers are.
I didn't know that.
When did you also become Filipino?
I would go to the club, and then they looked at my sneakers.
They're like, too specific.
Oh, yeah.
That happens.
I've heard that that happens.
It's a lot deeper than you think, man.
It goes so deep, dude.
It goes very deep.
And on that note, try another finger.
I'm pretty sure there's feeling in there.
This is the callback thing.
Don't tempt me.
I love it.
Don't tempt me.
You're going to stick me in my own bobblehead.
Wow.
I was going to do that.
What's that for?
I know this doesn't fit the theme of the interview,
but there's a question
I want to ask you.
Yes.
Okay.
You were talking about algorithms.
I saw a story on TikTok,
and I think it was about
you doing Comic View
and how you hustled
your way onto Comic View.
I thought it was
the coolest fucking story.
Can you tell that here
for this algorithm?
So Comic View was on the road.
That was my favorite show.
Like, I don't even know
how old you are.
38.
I grew up watching Comic View.
So you watched Comic View. Yeah. books you remember Showtime at the Apollo
you remember when cable kind of sucked
and there wasn't that much shit on TV
I bought the Def Comedy Jam cassettes
they would send them to my house every month
I was in
so explain that to these kids now
this was before I was Filipino
so explain to these kids now
it's like I don't know how to explain it,
but like a black comic didn't get the best rooms or the best nights.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So when you had a successful show like Comic View, they weren't going to put it,
and I lived in Vegas, they weren't going to put them and I lived in Vegas they weren't going to put them in Caesars
they weren't going to put them
in The Mirage
because they were black comics
we're not ready for that yet
I rarely saw black comics anywhere
and so they put them
in a restaurant
and this is Comic View
this is one of the biggest
comedy shows on TV
I mean Martin Lawrence
Cedric the Entertainer
I remember finding out about the comic view.
Everybody was going, Ricky Smiley.
This thing pushed out stars.
But for some reason in Vegas,
they had to play a restaurant called Country Star,
which was like a Planet Hollywood for country singers.
Wow.
And when I found that out,
I was working at Dolphin Habitat
and I was already like,
this was like 1997 or whatever, 96.
How long had you been doing stand-up at this point?
I was like seven years in or so.
And I was already like booking these theaters.
I would rent theaters and sell tickets and shit.
I would make my own tickets.
I love this fucking hustler.
I would cut tickets up and sell them.
And then this girl that I was working with, she was like, you know, Comic View's here.
I was like, what?
Where?
She's like, Country Star.
I'm like, what the fuck is it doing at Country Star?
And I went to my manager and told her, I go, can I please just leave early?
I want to go to Comic View.
And she let me go home early.
And I was a tour guide.
So I was already covered in sweat.
And all I wanted to do was go home and put this suit on that I bought, right?
Because I remember Eddie Murphy said, always wear a suit.
He always wore a suit.
And I was like, oh, okay.
If you're going to do a big show, wear a suit.
So I rushed home, got my suit.
I had a – and I was still sweaty.
It was awful.
And I grabbed this fake resume, this resume that I made that I opened for all these people,
and I played all these clubs across the country.
Everything was a lie, right?
And then all I did were the local comedy clubs,
the local shows that I did.
And then I brought this to the front door.
There was a long line wrapped around a country star,
and I walked up to the security guard,
and I go, hey, man, I'm a local comic,
and I just want to see if I can talk to the promoter
and maybe just open the show up.
And never has a security guard helped anybody, right?
And the security guard goes, I'll be right back.
And he went and got the promoter.
And I still remember her name.
Her name is Yvette Anderson.
And she came up to the door, and then I go,
hi, I'm a local comic.
Everybody knows me. Nobody knows me.
And I go, I'd love to open the show. She goes, oh, we already
got our comics. Show's about to start.
I'll take your resume. Next time I
come back, I'll consider you. She goes, you
want to watch the show? I go, fuck yeah. That's sweet
that she let you watch. Yeah, and she let me in.
And she sat me down next to all
her equipment, and she had this thing called a
Canon 3CCD camera.
It was like beige and maroon.
It was like a huge camera back then.
I always wanted one, right?
It was like a broadcast camera that they were selling.
It was like $8,000 or some shit.
And I saw it, and I remember, oh, shit, that's the camera I want.
And I was sitting next to it, and everybody was late, right?
Black.
Yeah.
I'm not going to say.
Well, you're Filipino. This has nothing to do with you. Yeah. I'm not going to say. Well, you're Filipino.
This has nothing to do with you.
Yeah.
I'm on top of both of them.
So, yeah, yeah.
So, everybody's late, and the crowd's booing.
Because they were like 45 minutes late.
The show was like at 8.
It's like 8.45, almost 9.
And they're all booing, like, start the fucking show.
She walks up to me.
She's like, do you want to do some time?
No.
Wow. She goes, do you want to do some time? No. Wow.
She goes, do you want to do some time?
Because they're a little late right now.
And I go, if you can record it with that camera right there, I'll go up.
And she goes, let me set it up.
And she set it up.
And then she brought me on.
Now you're going up to booze, or are they happy that someone's going on stage?
I remember the DJ.
There was no host either.
Yeah.
And then the DJ goes, ladies and gentlemen, Joe Coy.
And I walked out on stage.
I walked out on stage, all black, all black people.
It was just a black room, right?
And you're not at all what they're expecting.
Not only are you-
Yeah, they were there to see Bo Peay.
And I forgot who else was on that show.
But Bo Peay was the big one on there.
He was like the host.
And he was one of my favorites, by the way.
I loved Bo Peep.
And then I went up and I smashed it, bro.
I remember this back in the day when they used to raise the roof.
Oh, it's fire.
And they were all raised the roof.
And then I started doing it.
And I got it all on videotape.
And then I walked off stage and Bo Peep was standing there.
He's like, who the fuck is this?
And she goes, some local comic. He's like, who the fuck is this? And she goes, some local comic.
He's like, yeah, but you ever watch Comic View?
And I go, I love Comic View, and I love you, Bo.
And he goes, you own Comic View.
I go, what?
He goes, next week.
I'm going to make them call you next week.
You're coming out to Comic View.
And I went on and did Comic View the following week.
Holy shit.
That's so sick.
You know how I got Debt Jam?
No. No.
Hold on real quick on this story.
Two things. One is
I have that on tape still.
One, I want to see that.
Two, do you remember what you opened with?
That's the fucking, yeah.
I'm always curious when people go up in harsh
scenarios, what their first thing
And to be honest, I bet you if we watched the tape, we're going to be like
this is fucking awful. You know what I mean? But it was honest, I bet you if we watched the tape, we're going to be like, this is fucking awful.
You know what I mean? But it was like,
I was like seven years in, you know what I'm saying?
And it's the 90s. Comedy's changed so much.
No, I don't remember what I...
I don't even remember the set.
You know, it's also interesting.
People don't think about...
Nobody knew Filipino comics in 96.
So just the idea of you going up there
doing comedy, I'm sure the whole audience was like,
what the fuck is this guy doing here?
Yeah, it's crazy. So to smash in that
environment is crazy, and the opening
must have been a haymaker.
Yeah, and it was so cool.
Oh, man. Oh, never mind.
This is comic for you, or this is this one? So then the show starts,
right, and the emcee goes up. It wasn't
Bo Peep. I forgot. Bo Peep was the headliner.
There was an emcee. It was a young comic.
I forgot his name.
And he went up after me.
And I remember he was like, he didn't know I went up.
So I'm just sitting in the audience.
And then he starts doing his set.
And no one's laughing.
He's like, god damn, none of you motherfuckers laughing?
What do I got to do to make you laugh?
And this black chick goes, put that Asian motherfucker back on stage.
Let's go.
And they all went crazy.
That was cool, man.
And then that's how I got
the Black College Comedy Tour
because I did BET's Comic View
and then I did the Black College
Comedy Tour.
And that's how I met
Gary Owen and Honest John.
And I was opening for like
B-Flat and Samar.
I love B-Flat.
And Melanie Camacho,
Michael Blackson. I was opening for J B-Flat and Samar. I love B-Flat. And Melanie Camacho, Michael Blackson.
Yeah.
I was opening for J.B. Smooth.
Yeah. And I was bringing them to Vegas in like 98, 99.
I was bringing them to Vegas.
Yeah.
And I had the, and Honest John goes, he goes, I want to get you on Def Jam, man.
I don't understand why they haven't said anything.
I want to introduce you to Bob Sumner.
Yeah. I go, all right, cool. And I was working at like, I'm going to get you on Def Jam, man. I don't understand why they haven't said anything. I'm going to introduce you to Bob Sumner.
I go, all right, cool.
And I was working at like, I forgot, some hotel.
And he goes, all right, we're coming.
And by the way, this was Def Jam on the road, right?
And it was at another country place called Sam's Town on Boulder Highway.
They wouldn't put it on the strip.
That's what they were doing to like black comics.
It was crazy.
So I go to Sam's town on Boulder Highway
and I'm sitting
and my sister's with me
Rowena
and then her fiance
and I remember
I got this camera
and I go please
whatever you do
record this set
I need this set
and so now I'm backstage
and Bob Sumner
walks up to me
with Rudy Rush
you know Rudy Rush
yeah Rudy's funny dude
yeah he used to host
the Showtime at the Apollo yeah he's out of Dallas Yeah, he used to host the Showtime at the Apollo. Yeah, he's out of Dallas.
But he was the host of
Showtime at the Apollo. He took over
for Steve Harvey. Funny. And now he's hosting
Def Jam this night.
My bad. He didn't come backstage yet. It was
just Bob Sumner and Honest John.
And Bob walks up to me and he's like,
Honest John. He's eating. I remember he was
eating. He's like, Honest John speaks
highly of you. I'm like, yeah.
He goes, all right, this is what we're going to do.
We're going to let you go up with the house lights on because they're still sitting in the room.
And we're not going to open the curtain.
We're just going to open up a little bit.
And you walk through the curtain, close the curtain behind you.
Don't say, welcome to Def Jam.
Just do your set.
And then just say goodnight in your name and then walk back through.
Don't say anything about Def Jam. He didn't want me to be
affiliated with Def Jam just in case I bombed, right?
And then he walks off
and I'm looking at my sister
like, I don't want to fucking eat shit.
Why am I even going to go out there? This is awful.
It's like he's playing you a little bit. Yeah, it's like 2,000
people. It's like lights still
on. They're still seating. They're still talking. Yeah, it was
awful. And then I remember the stage
manager walked up to me goes, hey, man,
we're at like 70% capacity.
I'm going to bring the house lights down a little bit
for you. He goes, but I can't open
those curtains up. He goes, I can't do
that, but I'll bring the house lights down. House lights
is bigger than a curtain. Yeah, right?
So literally, this is what happens.
There's two guys holding the curtain
and I'm standing there like this. My sister's like,
I'm going to kill it. Kill it.
You're going to kill it.
And they open the curtain, and I crawl through.
And I'm like, hi, everyone.
And it's just, everyone's like, hey.
And I just go into my act, and like standing O, right?
Wow.
And then they start stomping.
You can hear them stomping in the bleachers.
And then I crawl back through the curtain, and it's Bob Sumner, Honest John, and Rudy Rush, who's the host.
And Rudy Rush goes, man, who the fuck is this guy?
And he goes, that's Honest John's friend.
He goes, what the fuck did you put him on now?
He goes, what the fuck, man?
You should have put him on the show.
I got to go up after this shit?
Oh, it's so sick.
And then he goes, I didn't know this motherfucker was funny.
They're saying this in front of me as if I'm not there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And my sister's crying like, oh, my God.
You killed it.
You fucking killed it.
And then I swear to God, just like Bo Peay, Rudy looked at me and he goes,
we're doing a comedy showcase on Showtime at the Apollo.
You want to do it?
I go, yeah, I want to do it.
And he goes, how my people call you? And he goes, and you're going to be on Showtime at the Apollo. You want to do it? I go, yeah, I want to do it. And he goes,
how my people call you?
And he goes, and you're going to be on Showtime at the Apollo.
And then literally like a month later, I was on
Showtime at the Apollo. Get the fuck out of here.
And then I won Showtime at the Apollo.
Fuck! Is that set on YouTube
still? Yeah. And that's how I won
Showtime at the Apollo. Did you rub the
wood for good luck? You want to know what's
crazy? People don't know this either
is I was doing these shows, right?
But I didn't have any money
because I was working at like,
you know, like,
I was taking an odd job.
So I was renting theaters
and all this shit
and I was getting sponsors
to pay for it.
So the back of the ticket
would be blank, right?
So I would go to Kinko's
and put A to a page
and cut them up, right?
So the front would say
Joe Coy's Comedy Jam and then the back is blank. And I was like, ooh, I can make
those into coupons and sell that as advertisement, right? So I walked up and down the street on
Charleston Boulevard, right? If you're ever on Maryland Parkway in Charleston, there's a theater
there called, in Vegas, it's called the Huntridge Theater. And it's not in the best place, right?
It's pretty bad. So I'm walking up and down all these stores, and I'm just like, hey, I'm doing a show at the Hunt Ridge,
and I just want to know, can you sponsor me?
I'd love for you to put your advertisement on the back of these tickets.
It's already sold out, 800 people.
You know what I mean?
We could put your, you put like a discount coupon on here, and I'll charge you like a bucket ticket.
And everyone kept saying no, and I got to this oil place. I still remember it was like
an auto repair shop and I just
I don't know why I just walked
in and I just go hey I'm doing a show
down the street, Hunt Ridge Theater and I'd love
to like sell the back of this ticket
make it like a half off
coupon for an oil change or whatever
be like a bucket
ticket that's already sold out to 800
people and he goes, all right.
I go, what?
He goes, yeah, 800 bucks.
All right, cool.
His name was Paul Ogata.
And I remember he grabbed a book of company checks
and he wrote it out, Joe Coy Entertainment LLC.
And he wrote 800 bucks.
And I remember my mouth dropped like,
holy fuck, he just paid for the venue.
I was like, what the fuck?
And he ripped that check out.
I couldn't believe it, man.
And at this point, you hadn't sold any tickets.
No.
No, I haven't.
But I knew I'd sell it out, though.
You could get it.
Oh, yeah, I knew I would sell it out.
Yeah, yeah.
And then I was a fan of—
How were you selling it out?
Sorry.
I was just good, man.
I was good at, like, telling people to buy tickets.
So you would go on the street, hey, come buy tickets.
Well, no, no, no, because people knew me from coffee houses. So so I knew that and then I was opening for people at Catch a Rising Star and and like
Catch a Rising Star would give me two-for-one tickets and I would hand them out to my friends
and like on a weekend show it'd be packed but it was all the two-for-one tickets that I handed out
and I'm like well why am I giving this headline all this money it's me so then I started renting
theaters and I was like I'm gonna take this money You're paying me 50 bucks a night, but I'm packed in the room. You know what I mean? So then
I started renting out theaters and, uh, and that's how I started selling that shit out.
And I was a big fan of Dada Footwear. Do you remember Dada Footwear? So Biggie would wear
a hat, the tight hat and like LL Cool J would wear it. Yeah, they sponsored Chris Webber,
I think. So yeah, no, I was there during that production. And there's this thing
called the Magic Convention.
It's the men's apparel convention
in Vegas.
It's huge, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It's huge.
And my friends were B-boys
and I used to throw
B-boy events, right?
It was called...
Anyway...
What's it called?
Illest in the Game.
Okay.
And they were huge.
That's why I know
the Jabberwockies.
That's why if you watch
In His Elements on Netflix, the B-Boy segment, the guy that's doing it, Ronnie, I've known him for 20 years.
Oh, wow.
And we opened for Snoop Dogg together, right, at the Blaisdell.
That's so fucking sick.
So, like, where I shot Coming in Hot at the Blaisdell, I opened for Snoop Dogg 25 years before that.
Blaisdell, I opened for Snoop Dogg 25 years before that.
Snoop and Ludacris were
40 minutes late
and they kept making me go back on stage.
They wrote an article about me
like, Joe Coy saved the
Snoop Dogg show. I still have the article cut out.
It was so crazy that the guy that wrote that
article wrote the article
for my Blaisdell Netflix special.
Black people's lack of punctuality has done so
much for your career.
Yo, right?
It's really crazy.
So these B-Boys,
they were dancers
and they were like my friends.
They were always doing my shows.
And they had a gig
with Tribal Streetwear.
So they would dance at the booths,
right, during the convention.
And I knew Dada was in there
because I was checking in.
I was such a big fan of the hat, right? And I was working the front desk at this place called Alexis Park. And this
guy came up and he's paying for all the wounds in cash, right? Young black guy, right? Maybe 25
years old. And he's paying all the wounds in cash. And I looked it up and his name was Damani.
And it said Dada Supreme.
And I'm like, oh shit, that's that hat.
And by the way, this is back in the day when there was no internet.
So if you fell in love with that hat that Biggie was wearing,
you had to find someone that lived in New York to get it for you.
Because you're not going to find it on, there's no internet.
Or go through a magazine, you know what I mean?
Like Source or something to see if it's in the back and maybe call the store.
So I wanted that hat so bad, right? And I just looked at it and I go, yo, how's it working for that company? And he goes, oh, I love it. I love it. And he's paying for all the rooms
cash. It's like 10 rooms cash. I go, damn, that's incredible, man. I love that hat. Biggie wears
that hat. I want that hat. How do I get that hat? He goes, I'll get you a hat. I go, really?
Oh, that's dope, man.
Like, what do you do?
He goes, I own it.
I'm like, what?
Yeah, that's crazy.
I go, what?
He goes, yeah, I own it.
His name was Damani.
I forget his last name, Damani.
And he sent his assistant.
She brought me all this merch.
And I always remember what he looked like, right?
And when my show started popping off, I was like, I'm going to walk up to him again
and tell him about my show.
So my friends were B-boys
and they were doing tribal street wear, the booth.
And the lanyards to get in
were like five, 600 bucks to get in
and they had two.
So they both went in
and then he would take the other dudes
and come back out and gave it to me.
And I literally stood by the Dada booth for four fucking days
I literally went every single day
until he came
and he finally came
and I saw him and I go that's that dude
and I walked right in that booth
and I go hey man I met you
he gave me the hat and he goes oh yeah I remember you
and I go yeah I told you I did comedy shows
and he goes did you call Carlos because he gave me Carlos the. He goes, oh, yeah, I remember you. I go, yeah, I told you I did comedy shows. He goes, did you call Carlos?
Because he gave me Carlos, the marketing guy, his name and number.
And I go, I called, but he never picked up.
And he goes, oh, Carlos.
And then Carlos pops up.
He pops up from behind the rack.
And he looks up.
He goes, man, get over here.
He goes, this dude I was talking about, he's a comedian.
I met him at the hotel, blah, blah, blah. He goes, this dude I was telling you about, he's a comedian. I met him at the hotel,
blah, blah, blah.
He's got a comedy show.
And then Carlos is like,
I'm sorry, man. I never got back to you.
He goes,
load him up with whatever he wants.
So I walk out of the convention
with a bunch of shit
and then Carlos,
who's my friend to this day,
one of my best friends,
he goes,
call me, man,
because we want to do a comedy show
and we'll sponsor you.
And he goes,
I'm sorry about that, man.
We've just been really busy because they were blowing up. They got the Chris Webber deal.
They got the Snoop deal. They were doing big shit. And he goes, just come, come to the
office. So I drove there in my Honda Prelude with one broken taillight, drove there, 2nd
Avenue, Los Angeles street. You know what I'm talking about? The garment district. And
I remember I made this fake price sheet. I made like a fake price sheet for a comedy show.
You know what I mean?
And I was sitting there.
I was so nervous, man, because I thought I was asking for too much money.
I think it was like $5,000 for this comedy show.
Because he's like, just give us a breakdown, and we'll see if we can sponsor it.
He goes, Lance is a huge comedy fan.
Lance is the other owner.
He owns the footwear department.
This is so much information.
You can cut it down.
You got four cameras to cut from.
And I'm sitting downstairs, right?
I got this whatever it is that I made, this price sheet, and then this big, good-looking black guy.
The biggest Afro bro.
It's massive.
He's got light blue glasses on, sunglasses, light blue.
Everything was light blue all the way to the toes.
And I hand him my thing.
He goes, I'm Lance.
He goes, what's up, Lance?
And he sits down.
He goes, yeah, I'm a big fan.
He goes like this.
And he goes, so is this the price?
I go, yeah.
He goes, all right, cool.
We'll do it.
And he put it down.
And I go, that's it?
He goes, yeah, man.
Let's do this.
I go, oh, shit.
I should have asked for more. And I walked, that's it? He goes, yeah, man. Let's do this. I go, oh, shit. I should have asked for more.
And I walked out of there.
And from that day on, I was sponsored by Dada Footwear.
Like, from like 98 to like 2000 whatever.
Just doing comedy shows.
The American Express corporate card, like, they gave me like an authorization form or whatever.
So I could charge it, all the hotel rooms.
Get out of here.
All the comics, yeah.
That's so sick, man.
And then all the flights, they would book it for me.
So when you see me do Showtime at the Apollo, you'll see me wearing that hat that Biggie wore, this tight hat.
Yeah.
That's because Dada paid for me to fly to do Showtime at the Apollo.
That's so fucking crazy.
Isn't that nuts?
And at that same magic convention, that's where you met the Jabberwocky?
No, no.
I knew Jabberwocky because I was throwing B-Boy events.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those B-Boy events I was throwing, this is back when they were like 10, 11, 12.
So when they're kids.
I knew them when they were kids.
So I knew all those B-Boy.
I'm a B-Boy, bro.
You and Russell seem like kindred spirits to me.
You and Russell Peters.
Yeah, man. For real. You and Russell Peters. Yeah, man.
For real.
Like, he's a DJ.
Yeah.
But just in the hip-hop culture, Hustler's been doing it for a minute.
Yeah, got your respect, doing fucking arenas.
Like, yeah, you guys seem like kindred spirits to me.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy, right?
It's crazy how that all came full circle.
They're 12 years old, or 10 or 12 years old, and then you see them explode.
Yeah, but when I met Ronnie, he was like 16, 17. came full circle. They're 12 years old or 10 or 12 years old and then you see them explode.
Yeah,
but when I met, when I met Ronnie,
he was like 16,
17,
you know,
he's with Full Force.
He's like,
he's like Red Bull BC1 champ.
Like he's,
he's the coach,
he's the coach
for the Olympics now.
But when I met him,
he was 16,
like 27 years ago.
So these guys were already
very established within the B-Boys.
No,
no,
they weren't.
They were just kids.
They were B-Boys.
But you said, now they blew up. Oh, but you said when you met him, he was already sponsored by Red Bull. No, no, they weren't. They were just kids. They were B-Boys. Now they blew up.
Oh, but you said when you met him, he was already sponsored by Red Bull.
No, no, no, no, no.
Now he's sponsored by Red Bull.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when we were just on the come up, like when I was trying to do stand up.
And by the way, the shows I did at the Hunt Ridge always had B-Boys.
And so, like, I got footage of all that shit.
When are you going to put on a doc?
Yeah. I should, huh? You have all these. i have it all man we're we're working on it but like yeah people don't that'd be a really i mean that footage alone
from yeah it's crazy apollo or comic view any of those would be i got footage jb smooth smash
when no one knew no i'm talking like when no one knew yeah but jb's When no one knew. No, I'm talking like when no one knew. Yeah, but JB's. But no one knew.
Another planet.
But you don't understand.
No one knew.
Like, this was like in the 90s.
It might be the hardest I've ever laughed.
No one was fucking with, huh?
It might be the hardest I've ever laughed.
I saw it.
I remember.
I'm telling you.
I opened for him at a, I was on this thing called the Black College Comedy Tour.
Yeah, you were saying.
And like, I was the other.
So the roster was a bunch of black comics. You were the college. Yeah, you were the college part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I was the other. So the roster was a bunch of black comics.
You were in college.
Yeah, you were in the college part.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was college.
So it was like, they had the book.
They had to have diversity, right?
You couldn't put two black comics on one show
because there's too many black people.
You know what I mean?
At the college, that's too many.
We need diversity.
And they were like, oh, we got diversity.
What do you got? You have an Asian guy? We got Joe Coy. And they were like, oh, we got diversity.
What do you got?
You have an Asian guy?
We got Joe Coy.
Do you have a white guy?
Joe Coy.
Do you got a Latino guy?
Joe Coy.
So I was like all the others.
It was like me,
Honest John,
and Gary Owen doing it.
I saw JB in like 07,
so it was later,
but it was on a show
with David Arnold hosting,
rest in peace to David Arnold,
by the way.
Kevin Hart was there, I think
D-Ray came through, and then
they had J.B. Smoove close it out, and I was like
heaven, this guy closed it out? Who is this guy?
And he fucking lit the room on fire.
It was in like Englewood or something. What year was that?
It was like 07, 08 maybe. Oh, you're talking about the
casino. Maybe, maybe. That's crazy.
Those were fun times by the way. He set it on fire.
Like Cat in the Hat's room and all that?
Yeah, maybe. I think it was Cat in the Hat. He did the leaning shit about the stone shoes. That Like Cat in the Hat's room and all that? Yeah, I think it was Cat in the Hat.
He did the leaning shit about the gold shoes.
That's Cat in the Hat.
That was back in the day-day.
Those were fun nights.
Yeah.
Yeah, those were cool.
Now, here's a question I have for you.
By the way, Cat in the Hat for everyone watching, that's Cat Williams.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He used to go by Cat in the Hat.
Yeah.
Here's a question I have.
I thought you were L.A. this whole time.
Yeah.
And then I looked up Wikipedia. It says you grew up in Tacoma, but I'm looking at you now. You got an L.A. hat. You you were L.A. this whole time. Yeah. And then I looked up Wikipedia.
It says you grew up in Tacoma.
But I'm looking at you now.
You got an L.A. hat.
You got an L.A. tat.
Yeah.
Why you rep L.A. so hard?
I mean, I'm not accusing you.
I lived there for 22 years.
But you feel like I'm an L.A. guy?
Because that's just interesting.
Oh, hell yeah.
L.A. is everything.
But you started comedy in Vegas.
Yeah.
I started comedy in Vegas.
And went to Vegas to do comedy?
No, I went there because my grandmother was, she had cancer.
Oh, shit. So we all moved there to
be with my grandmother. And thank God
because that's where my sister,
because my sister's a singer, and I
wanted to do stand-up so bad, I just didn't know how to get in.
I would call, I would call
every comedy club every
week, at least twice a week, right?
Because, you know, this back in the day, no internet.
So I would just call.
And the only guy that would pick up was the comedy club at the Riviera.
And it was called the comedy club at the Riviera.
And I would call him.
And he was like, hey, what's going on?
And I was like, hey, I'm a comic.
I'm local.
I'm like 18.
I was like, I'd love to just open the show, man.
I got some stuff I think you'd like.
I don't have anything.
I don't even know what to say on the phone.
He goes, do you have the tape? I go, I don't have a tape, but I know I'd kill it, man. I got some stuff I think you'd like. I don't have anything. I don't even know what to say on the phone. He goes, do you have a tape?
I go, I don't have a tape, but I know I'd kill it, man.
I'm really funny.
He's like, hey, look, call me back when you got a tape.
And I would do it every fucking week,
and I would try and change my voice.
And then one time, I swear to God, it's a true story.
And then one time, he goes,
this is like after the 12th time of me calling,
he goes, hey, kid, I know it's you.
He goes, look, you need tape.
Stop calling me.
Go to Los Angeles.
Work the rooms.
Get in.
You'll get a TV show or something.
You know, maybe the Tonight Show will call you and get that tape.
Get that tape.
Then you pass it around to all the comedy clubs.
All right, kid?
All right.
All right.
Bye.
Bye.
Click.
Steve Schripper.
Get the fuck out of here.
The Sopranos.
So Steve, that's right.
Steve was the booker of the fuck.
I did the hockey show with him.
You know the hockey show?
He's one of the Sopranos.
Steve Schripper.
Oh, shit. Yeah. And he remembered me calling him. Yeah, he's big pussy. Hockey show with him. You know the hockey show? He's one of the Sopranos. Steve Schrepper.
Yeah.
And he remembered me calling him.
Yeah, he's big pussy.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
Pretty sure, big pussy, yeah.
And Steve, that's right,
Steve was the booker
at the fucking RIV.
It was called the RIV back then.
Yeah, the RIV.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Comedy club at the RIV.
Yeah, yeah.
Uh-huh.
And he remembered me calling.
Bro, you don't understand.
I would call like twice,
like twice a day sometimes
and try and change my voice.
Is there a fallout?
I'd like to come in.
Hi there.
Can I ask you something?
Woody the woodpecker is on the line.
Are you the man?
I'm trying to do material.
I do voices.
Did you ever get up there?
Never got up.
Fuck.
Never got up. But. Never got up.
But he remembered me, man.
He was talking to my manager at the time.
Yeah.
And when he found out that I was from Vegas, he goes, I think that's the kid that called me all the time.
And then I confirmed.
I go, yeah, that was me.
Fucking A.
Called all the fucking time, man.
Fucking A.
Yeah.
And the only reason why I started getting on stage is because my sister was doing this
thing.
There was this thing called Star Mania.
It was like a bootleg Star Search.
Okay.
And I went to go watch her because my sister could sing.
She was amazing.
And I was watching her and there was a comic that went up.
And my sister didn't even know that I wanted to get up on stage.
And she looked at me and she goes, oh my God, you're so much funnier than him.
didn't even know that I wanted to get up on stage.
And she looked at me, she goes,
oh my God, you're so much funnier than him.
And I literally went home and I go,
okay, this is how I'm going to do it.
I'm not going to call Steve anymore.
And I called that number.
And I didn't even tell my sister that I was on the same competition as her.
And then I had to pencil in my mustache
because I was 18.
And these competitions were in bars. Oh, you had to be 21. Yeah, you had to pencil in my mustache because I was 18. And these competitions were in bars.
Oh, you had to be 21.
Yeah, you had to be 21.
So I penciled in my mustache and I wore a tie.
And it's on Eastern and Tropicana.
And the stage is still there, by the way, this bar.
I just went in there recently.
It's still there.
How did you do in the competition?
Oh, I lost to this Lionel Richie impersonator.
And he was so good. He sounded like Lionel Richie impersonator. And he was so good, right? He
sounded like Lionel Richie. And I bombed. It was so bad. That's your first time on stage?
That was my first time, yeah. And I sat down next to him. I remember I couldn't get off stage.
You know how you bomb so bad, you just keep going? I've done that. For some reason,
you just keep going. I've done that. I got to get a laugh, and it just wasn't happening.
Yeah, I've been there. Yeah, right?
Yeah.
And then I sat down next to him and he goes,
and I remember I go,
oh, God,
I go, that sucked, man.
I go, I don't know
why I'm doing this shit.
And then he goes,
hey, you may have bombed tonight,
but I will say this,
you got good stage presence.
Yeah.
That's what he said to me.
He goes,
you look good on stage, man.
You handled yourself well.
And if he didn't say that, man,
I probably would have quit. Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I swear to you. Because it stage, man. You handled yourself well. And if you didn't say that, man, I probably would have quit.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, I swear to you.
Because it was so bad.
It was horrific.
I remember I wrote this long set list and it disappeared.
It disappeared the minute I went on stage.
I remember clearly like it just all left.
I remember practicing all day what I was going to say and how I was going to say it.
I remember in my head I visualized some guy going,
you're not going to believe it,
but we got the next
Eddie Murphy here.
No, listen, listen right now.
You see what I'm saying?
They won't stop laughing.
None of that shit happened.
Oh, fuck.
But that little inkling of hope
from the guy propelled you.
Yeah.
I was talking about condoms
and my mouth got so chalky that my tongue kept sticking to the roof of my mouth. Oh, Yeah. I was talking about condoms, and my mouth got so chalky
that my tongue kept sticking to the roof of my mouth.
Oh, God.
I was doing this, like that,
and I was trying to get off,
and I was like,
God, your mouth ever gets so dry,
your tongue sticks to the roof of your mouth?
And I did a condom joke at the beginning of the set,
and it was so stupid, right?
Condoms don't fit me.
It's just dumb, right?
Hacky shit.
And then,
I fucking said that.
And the lady at the bar goes,
put a condom on it.
And fucking killed.
Annihilate.
Crush.
Thank you.
Have a good night.
We're here all week.
I wave her over, we both bow.
Dude, a heckle when you're bombing is the most devastating.
Devastating. A good heckle, fuck, you're done.
I'm done.
You're done done.
And that's how I close it with her.
She closed it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Fucking A, man.
What a journey.
Yeah, man.
And now arenas.
And volcanoes.
And volcanoes.
Volcanoes.
The volcano tour.
So fucking cool, man. You really earned every ounce of it. Ah, thank you. The volcano tour. So fucking cool, man.
You really earned every ounce of it.
Ah, thank you.
That's wild.
You're always going to make it.
It wasn't an option.
Like, I can't imagine a reality where you don't make it.
You know what I mean?
Oh, thanks, man.
It's actually really, I think it's great for people to hear these types of stories,
especially like how industrious you were.
Yeah.
Because oftentimes they just see the success.
Yeah.
Right?
And then they're just
going to go,
oh, okay,
well, if I'm funny,
then somebody's
going to recognize me
and then somebody's
going to put me
in a volcano
and then people show up.
Yeah.
It's not 30 years
of like doing
your own fucking shows
and putting on the suit
and just hoping
to get called.
Hoping,
calling every single day,
sitting around for four hours
every single day
to get your Dada sponsorship.
Like,
there's so much fucking grind
that goes into this. Was there any other time you thought you were going to quit?
Yeah, 2015
when they said no to me. Really?
When Netflix said no. Yeah. Really?
I was really depressed.
Do you know why, though? Because you're making
so much money.
I really
wanted to quit comedy
because I was just, okay, it's not going to happen.
Like, it's done.
But what's not?
I'm 40.
At that time, I was 2015.
I was, what, 45?
But what's not going to happen?
And I'm just like.
It was already happening.
Well, I just felt like.
You're still in the 1% of comics.
Yeah.
You're doing 20 sold-out shows in a weekend.
I mean, that's insane.
That's crazy money.
Yeah, with no special.
So you were validating yourself
with the special.
I just felt like,
well, one,
I knew that's what I needed
to propel me to that next level.
Like, I didn't want to do
20 nights at a comedy club.
Right, right, right.
You know?
I was doing it because I had to.
Right.
Because, you know,
selling 300 tickets to me was easy.
Right.
You know what I mean?
So you just kept doing it.
Like, I wanted to be able to do 2,000.
I wanted to do Chicago theater.
I have a videotape of me working,
doing three and a half weeks at the Schaumburg Improv.
Schaumburg Improv.
Schaumburg is, it's like a suburb outside of Chicago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It completely sold.
And it's a massive room.
Big improv.
It was like two and a half weeks.
It was like 19 shows or something, right?
Too long to be in Schaumburg.
Yeah.
Two and a half weeks
you don't need to be in Schaumburg.
Yeah,
you literally fly back
for two days
because you shouldn't
be in Schaumburg
at a mall, right?
And I remember
just like doing press, right?
Oh, by the way,
another secret
for all you comics
that are coming up,
do fucking press.
Yeah.
Do it. Doesn't matter if you're sold out. up, do fucking press. Do it.
Doesn't matter if you're sold out.
Doesn't matter who the fuck you are.
Do press.
Do it all.
Do radio, TV, everything.
Doesn't matter if you're sold out.
Not everybody in that town knows you're there.
Not everybody in that town knows who the fuck you are.
So just do it.
Like, I don't know, you're the only one that's going to sell yourself.
Yeah.
So I can be sold out.
I'm still going to go do the radio. I posted this the other day.
I saw this great thing about Tyler, the creator.
Yeah.
And he goes, I don't know.
I want to get it up because I'm going to butcher it.
But he basically is like,
I don't know what's up with these people
who don't promote themselves.
I don't know if they don't believe in their own shit.
But he's like, you put a lot of time, a lot of thought,
your heart and soul into a creation, and now it's ready and you're not gonna push it do you not believe in the creation do you not believe in yourself like
do you think that's what it makes you so thirsty like what the fuck is wrong with you guys i don't
get it if you built it put it out there and tell people it's out there and it was so beautiful to
see someone who is like ultimate indie grind who i I respect like crazy in terms of not only music ability but his ability to promote, to see him get behind promoting.
Yeah.
You should.
I don't understand that.
If you open up a coffeehouse, you're going to promote your coffeehouse because you want to sell coffee.
One thing about comics, we have no overhead.
There's no chairs.
There's no stools.
There's no coffee. We are the stools. There's no coffee.
We are the business.
So you have to promote your business.
So I don't understand it.
When my movie came out, you know what I mean?
I flew to how many cities did I fly to?
Ten.
Ten.
Ten in ten days.
I flew out of my own money.
Not Universal's money.
Not Amblin's money.
My money.
Tell Spielberg to cough it up, bro.
He's flush.
He's flush.
God bless Steven Spielberg.
He's a big fan, right?
Dude, the way I got that deal was crazy.
It was nuts.
We get a phone call.
Was he one of the Jabberwockies?
Did he take off the mask and it was Steven Spielberg?
Steven used to open for me.
Yeah, it was crazy.
It was Ludacris was late.
And Stephen was like, I got this.
And then he just floated out.
But no, we get a phone call right after coming in hot, my second one.
And we go to Amblin.
I thought it was a development meeting, right, where you just talk, you know what I mean?
Or a general, I'm sorry, a general meeting.
Waste of time. And just, yeah, I'll tell you about me, you tell me about you, and then we leave and pretend that never happened.
Pretend you're talking to me.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what usually happens in these meetings.
And then I go there, and the minute the door opens,
like every single person is like, Stephen's such a huge fan, man.
So happy to meet you finally.
Stephen this, Stephen that.
Oh, my God, Stephen can't stop talking about you.
Stephen loves your special.
And then I get to the meeting, and it's like Jeb and Holly, the two execs,
and then right away they're like, Stephen can't stop talking about you.
And I'm like, hey, look, are you talking about Stephen from accounting?
Like literally.
Yeah, because it's like there's no fucking way.
And I tell this story all the time because literally that's exactly how I felt.
There's no way Mr. Spielberg is a fan of mine.
There's no fucking way.
And they're like, no, Mr. Spielberg wants to make a movie with you.
Do you have an idea?
Is there a movie idea you want to pitch? And I pitched Easter Sunday, and it was that fast, man.
They just said yes, green light.
They said yes, and then script yes,
and then he was involved every step of the way, man.
Wow.
From picking the director, picking the cast, everything.
Wow.
It was all him.
That's so cool.
And do you want to keep acting?
Oh, I love it.
You like acting?
I really want to get behind that camera, man.
You want to direct, huh?
I love it, man. I love it. There's something about it. Like, I like pulling, I like pulling
certain things out of people. Like, I enjoy it. Like, I can see it, and I, you know? Yeah. Like, I, like,
like, I'll watch things, and it's not like I'm watching it to enjoy. I'm watching it because I'm
trying to break it down. I'm pretty sure you do the same thing. Yeah.
You critique things.
You're like, you get frustrated when you see it.
Like, I don't know how many times I'll watch something and go, fuck, why'd you do that?
Yeah.
You didn't have to do that.
Or I'll get mad at the camera.
Why didn't they go wide on that one?
Yeah.
Why didn't they follow him?
What happened to the fucking back shot?
Like, god damn.
Now, do you still have that thing that wants, because you got your own movie now, but do you still have that thing that wants the industry acceptance?
Because 2015, you're making good money, but you're about to quit because you can't sell a special.
I was eating dinner with your managers, and they were telling me you were doing a sitcom.
And I was like, why?
It's so much work.
You're probably making so much more money doing the thing you truly love with no suits telling you what notes are.
Is it this thing you still need?
It's the thing of what I said earlier.
It's like, it's making my mom proud.
Is she not already?
No, it's like...
That Asian mom's a hard boy.
No, but it's just like...
He knows.
No, but what I'm trying to get at, man,
is like, it's hard to explain to people.
No, it's not.
You know, we all get it.
We know that this is kind of a fucked up country that we live in,
and it's starting to turn for the better.
We got younger minds now that are thinking a little bit better,
but they didn't see the hardship that my mom went through.
I tell this story all the time.
When my mom and dad divorced and we just wanted to color TV
and we were at Sears filling out these raffle tickets.
Like, I think she made me, Robert, and Gemma.
We just adopted Gemma.
You know what I mean?
She just came to this country.
And then Rowena, we're just filling out these raffle tickets, man.
We were going at it for like three hours.
And I think all these other families saw us do it.
But we just loaded up this fucking raffle drum.
And we had about 1,000 raffle tickets in it.
And we just wanted that TV. And we tickets in it. We just won that TV.
And we fucking won it.
We won that TV.
And we had to go up the stairs.
And everyone was claiming the prizes, going up the escalator.
And my mom loves kids, right?
This is like 1982-ish, 83-ish.
And we're going up the escalator.
And my mom loves little kids.
And she saw this little white kid, right?
And she goes, oh, hi.
She loves it.
Like, oh, my god, hi. What's your name? What's your name? And this fucking kid turns around and she saw this little white kid right and she goes oh hi she loves it like oh my god hi what's your name what's your name and this fucking kid turns around and goes
like this and we all rose like i i didn't even know what the fuck that was i was a military kid
so that type of racism we didn't really see because we're all mixed you know i mean like
i've seen tiger woods before i know what that is that's a black man with an Asian woman or I know what I
look like I'm a white dad with an Asian like we we don't know it's normal so now now that my mom
and dad's divorced and we're not on the base and now we're at a mall in America we just came from
the Philippines and this kid pulls his eyes back and then my mom not
reacting in any way because back then, if she does, she's in trouble. Oh, wow. What are you
yelling at that kid for? He's just joking around, lady. You fucking go back to your country. Oh,
wow. And that's the type of racism that my mom has to deal with. That's why they're submissive.
How does she respond? Even though my mom will fuck up
all of you in this room, my mom's got
a mouth on her. But
imagine that environment. Like, I know
my mom, but she froze.
And then we all froze. And I was just like,
yo, and I remember, I think I was like 11
or whatever, 12, and I was just like,
the fuck was that? And my
mom was like, no, no, no, don't worry. He's just
being funny, Joseph. He's, no, don't worry. He's just being funny, Joseph.
He's being funny.
Don't worry.
Like that.
So when you see that shit,
that's why you do the TV show.
Ah.
You're getting emotional
thinking about it.
Because maybe that's your way
of making some change.
And then somebody else's mom
doesn't have to go through that same thing.
There you go.
So when they say,
are you going to do that accent again?
Motherfucker, I'm going to do 53 years of that accent.
You should.
Wow, we got all emotional shit.
That's beautiful, man.
But that's what that is.
So when you hear shit like that,
you're just like, God damn.
Shut the fuck up.
There's people that live in this country that aren't heard.
And it's important.
I want to see Hasan Minhaj's dad.
I love Hasan.
I can't praise the guy enough.
I love him. But I also want praise the guy enough. I love him.
But I also want to see his dad's story.
And we need that opportunity.
We need to hear that accent.
I want to hear every fucking accent
because every accent lives here.
Akash
said something to me that I thought was great
and he was talking about
when people make fun of
his mom's accent or his dad's accent.
You said, and you could phrase it better, but you were like, I love their accent.
I think their accent's beautiful.
Not an insult to me.
If you ask me to do an accent for an audition, I'm not offended.
I'm only offended if the joke is the accent.
That's what I fucking said in the movie.
That's what I said in the movie. The joke's not the accent. Exactly. That's exactly what I fucking said in the movie. That's what I said
in the movie.
The joke's not an accent.
The joke's not the accent.
Yeah, yeah.
The only time the joke
is the accent
is when the person
that's doing the joke
isn't the accent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then it's a joke.
Or if, yeah, the joke is.
I do this one joke
on my one special
and I'm just like
the differences
between Asian people.
If you listen to the joke I break
it down so good yeah
oh that's a great fucking bit
oh like listen to the fucking bit
that's why if you try and see this cancel culture
try and cancel me you'll see it
look at the comments they got my
back because I do it the right way
only if they have an accent
and I think there's a little self loathing
in that oh an accent is offensive I can't be funny have an accent. Yeah. And I think there's a little self-loathing in that,
oh, an accent is offensive.
I can't be funny with an accent.
My uncle is the funniest guy I know,
has a strong accent.
Yeah.
Fucking hysterical.
Exactly.
So if it's a funny guy with an accent,
that's my uncle.
That's, to your point,
that's beautiful to see that on screen.
Exactly.
But if the jokes... And what is it about that
that you don't want to hear?
Because now when you say that to me, now I'm mad at you because that sounds like prejudice to me.
But who doesn't want to hear it?
But that's what I don't understand, Andrew.
What is it about that accent that you're not liking?
Because what you're saying to me is you don't like hearing my mom's voice.
Can I tell you what it is?
It's the fact that you're selling out a volcano.
Because if you were selling 10 tickets at the Schomburg Improv, nobody gives a fuck what you're saying about the accent.
And I think when you reach a certain amount of success,
I think that humans naturally,
we have this feeling in us
where we have to tear down the people
that maybe we create or tear down the successful ones
because they make us feel insecure.
And the only thing that they can go to
for you that they feel,
because they can't say you're not crushing, right? They can't say, oh, he's not feel because they can't say you're not crushing.
They can't say, oh, he's not funny.
They can't say you're not talented.
There's 30,000 people there that are going to say,
well, actually, yeah, he was crushing. I came here
every single time he comes. There's really nothing
that they can be critical about you.
They can't say the industry gave it to you.
They earned it yourself.
You built it yourself.
You're up there and you're crushing.
You've told us two or three scenarios that were really tricky ones that you ended up succeeding in, like, on your way up.
You probably have maybe 200, 300 more of ones just like that.
Yeah. Shitty rooms that you entered, then you flipped because of your talent.
So there's really nothing that they can do to take it away.
And what breaks my heart a little bit is it feels like you're a bit insecure about it.
It's like this is something that is your life.
It's something that is hilarious to you.
It's something that you find funny and these people also find funny and love hearing.
Like who gives a flying fuck what three people say when 40,000 are coming out to the volcano?
Don't even put, sorry to interrupt,
but like, don't even put that out there.
Don't even give them any credibility.
Does it maybe hurt more
because it is such a vulnerable thing?
Like, your mom, it seems like you look at her
the way I look at my mom,
which this is the most beautiful, wonderful person.
And I feel like I'm doing, I'm paying homage almost.
And then when you're shitting on that,
it's like you're attacking this character
that is the actual person I love more than anyone.
Yeah.
And I get very protective about that.
Yeah, that's exactly how I feel.
Yeah.
Yeah, I 100% understand that.
And they don't understand that.
It's like, I just don't get it.
Pat Marina didn't have an accent.
Yeah, I did not know that.
Pat Marina didn't have an accent.
I did not know that.
But he's going to go down in history as Mr. Miyagi.
Yeah.
And because that's the Hollywood he lived in.
He's going to go down as Al from Happy Days.
But no one's going to talk about his legacy of being a comedy story comic and running with Richard Pryor and Robin Williams.
We're only going to remember him as Wax on Wax off.
And that's the kind of racist shit that we live in.
So that's why.
Right. That's why we gotta
do shit like this.
So do you feel compelled as you go to this part
of your career, do you feel compelled
to leave...
A lot of people talk about
legacy, but it seems like your legacy is
a little bit more selfless.
Meaning you kind of want to see
change kind of happen through your effect.
That's exactly it.
That's why my third special was in the Philippines.
I just wanted everyone to be Filipino.
I was just like, I knew how hard it was for me to get on.
And now that I have the door open, well then fuck it.
I didn't make any money on In His Elements.
I sacrificed all my money for that.
I fucking loved it.
All that went into production.
I fucking loved it.
I was supposed to shoot a third special in Jacksonville.
I didn't tell anybody that.
I went to the Philippines.
I got that little girl.
That little girl lives in the Philippines.
She's a rapper.
After my show, she got signed by Def Jam.
That's the kind of shit.
That's what I want to do.
I want to be able to shine the light.
Ronnie, I've known him since he was 17.
He's so good.
The first thing I said to myself was, we're going to the Philippines, bro.
I got a show.
He was the first person I called when I left Netflix.
We're going to the Philippines.
All those B-boys lived in the Philippines.
They're all homeless kids.
We gave them a shot.
So that's what you want to do with your success now.
Yeah.
You get the door open, you keep it open.
I love that. Yeah, it's fire,
man. Do you think
your work will ever be done? No.
Nah. Not until
everybody jumps in.
What would make you go,
maybe not I did
enough, but what would make you look back and go,
that was pretty cool?
I don't know,
man.
Filipino Batman or something?
Batman.
Filipino Batman.
Filipino Batman.
And I want you to be Filipino Robin.
We just have two of the coolest, whitest moms.
No, what would make you go, like, not my work is done because the work is never done,
but what would make you sit back and go, wow, I'm really proud of the mark that I left on entertainment
and how it's different now than when I was coming up and I wasn't given these opportunities?
Oh, man, that's a, I don't know, man.
Good question.
It's a great question.
You know, that's why everyone asks me, why am I doing that show?
It was like, well, this is why I'm doing this show.
Everyone's like, well, why'd you do that movie?
It's like, well, because, man, we have to.
I think it's important to say this.
For a guy like you that's touring, and other guys are in the same ballpark, you know, the Cavs, like a Cap Williams, even Fluffy, like to do a TV show or to do a film is to lose money.
Yeah, that's 100.
Oh, man.
I'm so happy you said that.
I know.
And it's hard because I don't want you to say it because then it seems like you're like, look what I'm giving.
But what people don't realize is there's so much money to be made on the road that to do a movie for two months,
you're losing so much money.
And to do a TV show.
What about a TV show?
No money, bro.
Because a lot of people go,
oh, my dream is to be an actor.
My dream is to have a TV show.
My dream is to have a movie.
So they look at you doing that,
and then they go, well, why would you do it?
Whatever like that.
You're willing to lose potentially millions of dollars.
I don't want to count your pockets here,
but millions of dollars to create some change or a platform for other Filipinos.
I wanted to have a hospital with Filipino nurses in it.
I think that's pretty fucking fire, man.
And that was the scene in that TV show.
That was the opening scene to actually see a hospital.
As it should be.
That had everything.
It had Latinos in it, black people in it, Indians, white.
It had everybody in it.
Jamaican nurses too?
It didn't have Luke and Laura.
It wasn't General Hospital.
You got Luke and Laura doing hospital administration, for sure.
For sure, hospital administration.
But maybe that, no.
I don't want you Andrew
in no way am I
I'm not talking
in like some kind of
hateful
I don't want to
it's still love
it comes from a loving place
I don't take it that way at all
please don't think
I'm taking it like that
I'm taking it as someone
who felt kind of shunned
by the industry
and now you're trying
to create opportunities
in the industry
with the success you have
a lot of people
just go to their house
in the hills
and they sit there
by themselves
and they just collect their money. So I think given your
situation, what you're doing is incredibly altruistic. And I also think this is something
I wish people, those people who do complain about you doing an accent,
they probably like a lot of, we see a lot of people that are minorities in this business
who will use this struggle or injustice as a platform, get famous and then not really help
out their own.
Yeah.
And I think it's really cool that... Which is very common.
Yeah.
And you do something that these people might not like,
but they have no idea what you're actually doing,
the change you're actually creating,
the lives you're actually changing for the better.
But it also...
And that's why I think this is really cool
that you get a platform to say this.
Thank you.
I love you for saying it.
But I also want to, like...
I heard your tongue hit in the top of your mouth.
Should I put a condom on it?
Oh, if you would have said it faster.
Who was it?
You?
God damn it.
There you go.
But also like this is another thing that makes me mad.
For them to say something like, oh, he's doing that joke with the accent.
It's like I'm telling a story about my mother.
Yes.
So why are you choosing to say that?
It's almost like it's more than offensive.
It's like this ignorant battle of like you're being prejudiced right now.
Yeah, well, this is.
So when any other ethnicity that wants to talk about their parents
if you're doing an accent to be funny.
Yeah.
But they don't say that for anybody else.
Yeah. Because I'll tell you what, man.
One of my favorite jokes
growing up was Aunt Bunny
falling down the goddamn steps.
Oh my God. Unbelievable.
Oh my God.
And not one note. Not one note. Not one note about Aunt Bunny God, dude. Unbelievable. Oh, my God. The Goonie Goo Goo. Holy fuck. You tell me why it's fire again?
Not one note about Aunt Bunny falling down the step.
Oh, he's just doing that accent.
Eddie Murphy, delirious, anybody who's wondering.
It's one of the greatest bits of all time.
It's the greatest bit ever.
Yeah.
And it's been ripped a million times.
I've heard so many comics do their version of that,
that Aunt Bunny falling down.
But it's just like.
We did a whole analysis of that joke in one of our least popular episodes ever of this podcast.
He was amazing.
It was amazing.
His album was amazing.
Unbelievable.
Hit by a car.
My favorite.
It was fucking unbelievable.
I synced it.
Oh, shit.
I synced it.
Why are you syncing it?
I'm not syncing it.
Your leg.
Your leg.
You look like this.
You ain't going to need these shoes anymore.
I'm gonna picture you there about 90 feet.
God.
But no one says anything about accent there.
No.
Two, this is what Andrew was saying earlier.
Again, a lot of people,
and this is kind of the LeBron thing
that we all shit on him for.
You gotta wake up and be yourself.
A lot of people can't deal with
whatever unhappiness they have,
so when they see somebody killing it like you, how do I pick this apart?
Oh, it's an accident.
And then that's their exit ramp for their own insecurity.
Well, I might not be successful, but I didn't do that.
So they're just doing that to feel better about themselves, which I think is what Andrew was saying earlier.
You can't personalize that.
We love you, bro.
I think what you're doing is you're literally in like the top 0, 0, 0, 0, 1% of comedians that have ever existed.
There's probably like 10 total that have done – like total in history that have done the amount of people, right?
And to me, that's what I judge as success.
It's like how many people leave their house, put on clothes, and drive to the show.
Because there's a lot of people that we watch every – I mean, millions of people watch football every single day, right?
They watch college football.
Every single Saturday they watch college football.
And then a new roster of kids come and play for that team.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah, man.
So they're not leaving specifically for those kids.
But with comics –
They're leaving for the laundry.
Exactly.
So with comics, it's like how many people are willing to leave their house and then go see you live.
And creating that community and cultivating that career to me is just like the highest form of success as a comic.
So I know that you have this other thing that you want to care about, Filipinos or whatever the fuck.
You mean that we care about.
That we care about.
But for me, comic to comic, when I look at what you've done, I think you've reached the pinnacle.
I think you've reached the mountaintop.
And to Filipinos. I love you. you've done, I think you've reached the pinnacle. I think you've reached the mountaintop. And to Filipinos.
I love you.
I mean, I love you too.
But I'm like, please, if there is a moment where you can reflect on what you've done, like, I know I got this advice.
I forget who told it to me, but a bunch of people told me during my wedding, they're like, just look at the people that are there for you.
Like, just take a moment and look at everybody who's there because it's easy to get lost in that moment
with just you and your wife
and my wife and I we looked at all the people who were there
and I think that maybe every once in a while
you need to reflect like I'm in a volcano
40,000 people got here
like this is really good too
and even racially
and the change you want to make
and this is another reason I compare you to Russell
when I saw Russell
I knew what he did for, when I saw Russell, I knew
what he did for me when I started doing comedy.
I knew that when I did comedy, you've seen Russell, so this isn't fucking weird to you
anymore.
And this is from someone who wanted to do comedy.
If I didn't do comedy and didn't want to, which is so many people out there, they look
at you and they think, yo, one of us made it and did exactly what you set out to do.
He normalized us to
so many millions of people.
I got chills saying that. That's so fucking
mind-boggling. I don't find them to be normal
to this day.
At all. And I find
you to be very weird.
That's he's self-loathing. All two billion of you.
He's self-loathing Filipino. You can't. This is the
guy that's mad at your accent. This is the guy that's mad at your accent.
This is the guy that's mad at your accent.
But you should sit back and- Because my mom left me.
And I didn't have one.
But you should sit back and think,
you did exactly what the fuck you set out to do.
Yeah.
Just because it's not on-
Have you and your mom had that moment?
Yeah, my mom, you know, my mom is, you know,
she's Filipino. Yeah. You know, and she never wanted me to be a comic you know she wanted me to be she wanted me to be in the hospital no
not a b-boy either doctor she wanted if you have talent you know it's only until high school ends
yeah yeah yeah the talent must stop now you need a a career. Now it's a hobby. Now you, yeah, that's, stop it.
Dancing, you're not going to make money dancing.
So it's like, what are you, a clown?
Like, what the fuck?
And then, so yeah, so she wanted me to be.
But imagine, like, I also, like, have a lot of empathy for those parents
because it's like, imagine you risk everything to come to America,
bust your fucking ass,
and then your kid
wants to be a dancer.
Exactly.
I'm so happy you said it.
It sounds better
when you say it.
Yeah.
I'm white.
You're white.
You're white.
I'm white again.
Welcome back.
I'm back.
Yes.
He's white again.
I knew I could trust you.
No, but I'm glad
you said that
because not everyone gets what you get. I feel for them trust you. No, but I'm glad you said that because not everyone gets it.
I feel for them. You get it, but
people that
aren't Filipino don't get it.
They just see, oh, you
made it to America. Now, shut
up. You made it. You're good.
You don't know that my mom left her
entire family.
She literally left everyone. You're thinking she might not see them
for years. No, she didn't see them, but she knew it.
And now I'm just going to provide a better life for my kids
and also whatever leftover money
I'm going to make, I'm going to send back to them.
So that they have a better future.
But people in America don't see that.
And you want to dance?
And I want to dance.
I want fat laces.
Isn't that crazy?
He hated me buying fat laces. Isn't that crazy? Oh, she hated me buying fat laces.
You already have shoelaces.
You have them.
You're going to fat?
Why?
Does it keep it on better?
Well, you think of what they gave up for stability and security,
and then you're saying, fuck all.
That's why Asians always want their kids to be doctors.
Asians I'm including myself in.
Because doctors secure.
Well, you should. You're Asian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't do that.
Oh, you don't do that here?
But a doctor is...
What kind of racist shit do you guys do?
How are you oppressing this guy?
He's Latino.
He's Latino.
I don't get a chair unless there's a guest.
Them's the rules.
No, but they... I gave up everything up everything all my security to make your life
secure so enter the most secure fecal possible be a doctor people will always be sick that's why
it's the dream because this is what i came here for i gave up everything for me so you could be
secure yeah and now you're gonna go have a dream you fucking idiot fuck you i had the dream yeah
i got us here yeah Yeah. We're done.
We woke up.
Whites are a little bit like, how do I say it?
My mom immigrated here, right?
So like I relate to this, but like most white people in America are a few generations away from the parent that left the homeland.
Yeah.
But America is a bunch of people who did what your mom did.
Yeah. So like in our core, we relate to it. Yes. In our core, everybody had a family member who just left it all behind. Yeah. But America is a bunch of people who did what your mom did. Yeah. So, like, in our core, we relate to it.
Yes.
In our core, everybody had a family member who just left it all behind.
Yeah.
Came here, probably didn't see their family that much.
Yeah.
And it came from maybe, like, a tricky circumstance.
Yeah.
And I think that white people are kind of maybe a few generations removed from it.
Yeah.
So maybe they don't get it.
But if you ask, like, a white dude's grandparent how they would feel about your mom's situation,
they'd be like, I was so pissed off
when your mom
wanted to be a
fucking ballerina
do you know what I mean
like they would also
probably feel
I hear you yeah
there's a risk taker
niss in our DNA
here in America
yeah
so
not all of us
but yeah
always
these specific people
they always like
bring up this trauma
you know what I mean
that story's a little
too specific to tell
right now
you guys
but you do feel
the same
as black people
mostly
but
my mom's experience
was so similar
she took a plane
willingly
they love dancing
do you know what I mean
got paid when she worked
but here's the difference
when your mom wanted
to be a ballerina
yeah ballroom dancer ballroom dancing they only looked But here's the difference. When your mom wanted to be a ballerina,
ballroom dancing,
they only looked at the white dancers.
You know what?
Not that dancer.
And not that dancer. Even though that's the best dancer.
And not these dancers.
He's just being funny.
Don't be freaked out.
I was really upset about that.
Yes, yes, yes.
There was less opportunities.
Way to bring it down, Joe.
But when did your mom come around?
That was what I was curious about.
Like I said, she's old school.
I don't know if you can relate, but it doesn't matter.
Steven Spielberg, okay.
Well, what else are you going to do, Joseph?
Really?
I mean, now it's a little better.
And she sees the show.
What about the bank account?
Like, do you just show her the straight cash?
You bought her a house, I'm assuming?
Yeah.
You shit on some of your, like, medical professional friends?
And a lot of cards.
You know, my mom got so comfortable, she bought a car.
No.
Bro.
What type?
What types?
Yeah.
Types.
Types.
But the last one, I didn't even go pick it.
She already went.
Already went to.
This is after the third one, right?
Yeah.
Already went to the place.
Already purchased it.
Sent me a picture of it,
and goes, can you just send, what information do you need?
What information do you need? I don't know.
So many zeros.
So what do you need, Joseph?
So I can just enjoy driving.
Negotiation.
Do you need?
I told him Spielberg.
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
What type of car?
Mercedes.
Let's go, mom.
Yeah.
She got good taste. Yeah. That's all. Why did you tell her Mercedes. That's cool, Mom. Yeah. She got good taste.
Yeah.
That's all I'm talking about.
Why did you tell her to ask one of her doctor friends to pay for it?
Bro.
You know a dentist or something, right?
That's all I'm going to say.
My dad told me, I'm really impressed with how far you've come.
I'm really just so blown away watching it.
But I want you to know no matter how successful you are, I would still rather you be a doctor.
I swear to God he said this to me.
Swear. He loved titles, by the way.
Life support.
Yes, I'm not a doctor!
That's so funny.
And I laughed and he laughed and he was like,
I know it's stupid, but I'm an Indian
father. I can't tell you any different.
It's just who I am. And I wasn't even mad at it
because it was so like authentic.
Yeah.
But it was such a funny thing.
I'll never forget.
Don't relate to the doctor thing.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah.
It's so funny.
It's the titles that they're addicted to.
Yeah.
They love to say,
they'll never call someone,
oh, that's my friend John.
That's attorney John.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Attorney John. And now you're comedian Joe? That's attorney John. That's Attorney John. That's Attorney John.
And now you're Comedian Joe?
That's Attorney John.
No, that's Joseph.
He has money.
She saw you on Netflix
though. She's like, oh wow.
I mean...
Did she go to the Philippines withines with you she doesn't know
she no because you know she's she's older now and you know and my stepdad is not doing too well
and uh yeah but um she's uh she's very proud i mean everyone i don't know how to say it
everyone knows who i am in the ph. That's what I'm saying.
It would be cool for your mom to see.
Yeah.
So she loves it.
No, she loves where she is.
Everyone knows my mom.
Oh, she's famous.
Oh, she's very.
Over there as well?
No, she lives here and she's big.
Everyone knows her.
Real.
Yeah, she does her interviews and she does all that.
Take the napkins, Joseph. Take the napkins that. Yeah. Take the napkins, Joseph.
Take the napkins.
She's the star.
Take all the napkins, Joseph.
I still remember from 2007 a joke about her teaching you how to fight and putting your
keys in between the two fingers.
And I was like, yo, Filipinas get it, dog.
They're fucking wild people.
You know what's crazy about that joke is everyone walks up to me.
So that's why I get mad when you're like, you're not really listening.
She's just being a mom.
Well, so everyone talks.
I have people coming up to me, like, I do that same thing with the keys, you know.
So here's the thing.
The immigrant experience, and I think that a lot of comics who talk about it, especially with their parents being immigrants, have seen this.
Like, your audience is not just Filipino.
You have so many different people in your audience.
And you've also seen this with Sebastian as well.
The immigrant experience for
the Italian father or the Filipino mother is
not that dissimilar.
There's so much that they're going through, so then all
these people get to relate to it. Oh, my grandma
did the exact same thing.
Dude, I'll go to San Antonio
and there's no Filipinos in the audience.
But they got keys.
They got the bootleg Tupperware.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They get the jokes.
Sneaking in to the country.
Fucking Mexican.
What?
Why did you just say?
You get racist.
But he charged me up.
Which one's my camera?
That's why we should cancel.
That's not the camera, you fucking liar.
I'm trying to cancel him and you sent me to a stage light
Joe we know that
I'm sorry I have to ask one more question
what was it like performing in the Philippines
how was that different than America
because for me going back to India
is always a fucking thing
it was nuts
that was nuts
what felt different within you
I used to live there I lived lived there for six years, right?
Oh, shit.
So I was like from four to ten, the most memorable years of my life, right?
And so like just right when you get off the plane, you smell something.
I remember I looked at my son.
I go, this just brought me back to my childhood.
I smelt this smell that I smelled.
And then just being with my son was just so yeah a moment you
know right right right then it was a wednesday uh it's a wednesday bro and i sold out an arena
like it was like on a wednesday that's so crazy like it was just amazing and everybody was there
there was did you feel more pressure was the big guy there was the big guy there? Was the big guy there? They were all there. Manny? No, Manny wasn't there.
But there were people there.
I don't want to say any names.
Sure, sure, sure.
I don't need to do that.
But yeah.
But yeah, there were people there.
But as far as pressure, no.
That was the one message I was trying to get across, too, on stage that night is the whole, that crab mentality.
Yeah.
And I just wanted to let that be heard.
Huh, Josh?
That was one thing.
I went on a rant for like 15 minutes.
You know, we're so quick to just pull somebody down but not understand the struggle it takes to get to where we get to.
Right.
Or understand what they're trying to do.
You just want to take it down.
Yeah.
And then you wonder why the door's closed.
Right.
Because every time it opens, you close it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So just help one another, man.
Well, that's that scarcity mentality, I think, a lot of times.
I think that's where it comes from is when you're – I'm imagining, right?
I'm a fucking white dude in this, but it's like when you're going,
well, there's only so many roles for Asians.
So you're like, well, if he got it,
that means I'm not going to get it.
Fuck that guy.
So you develop this mentality,
which is like you're really competing
against everybody else in your community
for that like one slot.
And if there's a bunch more slots,
all of a sudden you get to support them
a little bit more and say,
hey, that's awesome you got that
because there's some more over here.
And that's the beauty of the because there's some more over here.
And that's the beauty of the internet, right?
Yeah.
The internet is abundance.
We can all have a fucking podcast.
We can all have a comedy special.
We can all have a show.
We can have everything.
Yeah.
And the people that want to indulge in it get to decide what they like the best.
Yes.
So hopefully that goes away.
No, we don't say hopefully.
It's going to go away.
It's going to go away.
I mean, look what you did, man.
That's dope.
Thank you.
Right? That's amazing. And that's what i want to see more of that's what that was the first thing i said when i was touring my movie
it's like dude i'm telling a story about my family in no way am i trying to like just only build this
opportunity for this i want to hear everyone's story yeah i'm trying to show everybody that
this is just a family.
It doesn't matter what ethnicity they are.
That's my mom, and this is my sister.
She doesn't have an accent.
She does.
But they're both Americans.
They're a family, and you're going to relate because a mom's a mom, a sister's a sister.
And you know it's proof that everything is changing.
Every one of my opportunities basically was given to me by a Filipino.
Yeah, exactly.
We're giving people.
The Joe Coy of New York. That's you. I am the Joe Coy of New York We're giving people. The Joe Coy of New York.
That's you.
I am the Joe Coy of New York.
I love that.
Joe Coy of the East Village is what they called me growing up.
I love it, man.
Yep.
And our new special is called Gluck Gluck.
Gluck Gluck.
How are you guys?
Gluck Gluck Live.
Joe Coy, everybody.
Yay!
Make sure you check out his new special.
Make sure you check out his movie,
and make sure you check him out on tour
if there are seats available
which we doubt there will be
but go see
Madison Square Garden
oh you gotta go check out
Madison Square Garden
we're gonna all be in there
supporting
let's go
love you guys
thank you so much my man
I love you guys
love you buddy