Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Kawhi Is Coming Back
Episode Date: June 18, 2019This week Andrew, Akaash, and Kaz discuss: OJ making a comeback, Andrew’s dad being blessed, Game 6 of the Finals, AD to LA, Kawhi’s future, and much more. INDULGE!!!...
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Okay, maybe you got them a weak-ass card or some bullshit.
Well.
Ugly-ass tie.
That's awful.
Tie? Come on. Pops should be or some bullshit. Ugly-ass tie. That's awful. Tie?
Come on.
Pop should be retired by now.
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let's start the show. As Kaz
was just saying, the juice is loose.
He's all over Twitter. The goat!
He came out with a vengeance, bro.
He came out like John Wick, son.
That motherfucker said, I got some payback to give.
He's not playing.
Someone killed OJ's dog, and we about to get a couple movies.
We about to get a couple movies of this, man.
Teeth were looking amazing.
Skin looking amazing.
I was like, yo, can we not talk about the elephant in the room?
I think we got to start killing white women, because that's how.
Talk about Jordan Peele.
Jordan Peele was talking about white people
using
sorry
white people using
black people's souls
to stay young or whatever
I think it's the other way around
I think OJ
sacrificed Nicole
share the routine
we found it
my god
kill white people
use their souls
white women glow
bro
OJ sacrificed
one of the few
well aging white women
in the history of the world
Nicole had it
she looked good.
Maybe Nicole was aging better than him and he was like,
I'm not going to do this. It's an embarrassment to people.
Uh-uh. Wow.
Maybe Cocoa Butter is just white girl skin.
Maybe that's what it is.
Cocoa Butter is white woman
souls. And now we found it out.
OJ looked younger, bro.
OJ really is the GOAT when you think about it.
Man, he got style. He's the GOAT.
He's wearing these fucking unbuttoned half-sleeve shirts
looking crispy.
Got the fucking almondy skin
talking like a
fucking 1950s radio
commercial.
My man's still doing Hertz commercials.
On Twitter.
You remember in the 90s, he was literally
the pitch man for everything. He was the
most marketable athlete on the planet.
And then three tweets into his Twitter account, I'm like, I see exactly why.
I'm just like, yo, somebody's going to give him the bag to do something.
Have his kids disowned him?
No.
One of his kids is a real estate agent.
Nobody disowned this man.
You can't disown OJ.
He'll slice your neck off.
That's true.
Allegedly.
Nicole tried. That's true. That's true Allegedly Nicole tried
Allegedly
That's true
That's true
I ain't saying allegedly
I'm just curious
I'm like
Would
You know that your dad
Killed your mom
Right
But you still want your dad
Like in your life
I mean
Couldn't you forgive
Your dad for that
Your dad kills your mom
You lose both your parents
That is true It's kind of fucked up But he got away with it Well Look we've seen couldn't you forgive your dad for that your dad kills your mom you lose both your parents that
is true it's kind of fucked up but he got away with it well look we feel free did you see the
staircase do you see that documentary the staircase no it's a staircase with some guy
like kills his wife or whatever like that and the kids kind of forgive they don't they don't
forgive him but they're trying every you try to you try no no not forgive you try to think of
every reason why it wasn't him.
Clearly, he hit her over the head with this fucking thing from, what is it called?
Where you-
The fire thing?
Like you stoke the fire.
Oh, like in the fireplace.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Clearly hit her over the head.
His lawyer's making up things like an owl attacked her and then she fell down the stairs and
the kids are like, we have owls in the neighborhood.
It could have been the owls.
It could have been the owls.
That's what these kids will do.
Could you forgive your dad?
For killing my mom?
Yeah, not the other way around.
If your mom kills your dad, he'd be like... I thought about this the other day, bro.
Literally yesterday.
I thought it was like, if my pops dies,
if my mom,
if my pops dies,
if my mom tries to move on
and get a new man
to live the rest of her life.
You got a guilt river.
I don't know about that.
You got to give her that guilt, bro.
I don't know about that.
That being said,
if my mom went,
hey, dad,
you got to get some pussy.
What are you doing?
What are you supposed to do?
Now I got some pussy?
You got to live, yo.
What are you going to do?
You're going to have these old ass full sack balls, blue chew out here,
everything you could possibly do to live your life to the fullest.
All you got to do is listen to the podcast, get some blue chew,
get some full sack.
You'll be right back in the swing of things, man.
It's beautiful.
I was on Father's Day,
I was so selfish,
bro.
My dad was,
my dad,
you know,
I don't get to hang that much
with just me and my dad.
He's at the house.
My dad's memory's gone,
right?
So he's at the house,
but it was just him at the house,
you know,
and so me and him,
and I was like,
all right,
pops,
I got to roll,
you know,
and he goes,
you want me to walk you home?
Right?
And I was like,
I absolutely want you to walk me home. and i was like i absolutely want you to
walk me my dad take a nice walk yeah but then part of me's thinking how the fuck you gonna get back
i was like you good to get back and he was like yeah i got that i was like okay
no bro i walked him to 14th i I should call him now and make sure he got back.
If you walk him back home.
Let me call him out of grips.
If you walk him back home, he'll forget that you walked him there.
So he doesn't walk him back.
I'm walking him.
Exactly.
And I'm walking you up here right now.
Yes.
Remember, I got to walk you back to your grips.
So he walked me to 14th.
It was a great walk, man.
I was just talking to him.
You know, just talking about life.
What's the hardest thing about fatherhood?
And just asking these cool questions.
And then that might have been the last time we hung out.
But, you know, it is what it is.
Hopefully he's all right.
We'll have to find out right now.
I'm calling.
You're going to call him?
Golly.
On the pod.
All right.
We're going to make sure my dad makes it back.
Make sure he's good.
My mom let him get back from the beach house by himself.
Wow.
Jesus.
The beach house he invites me to every time he sees me
Oh, he invites everybody to the beach house, bro
Hold on, let's see
Let's see, let's see
Come on, Larry Schultz
Come on, Larry
This is tense
Come on, Larry
Stop playing with me
Yo
Maybe he just forgot where he put his phone.
That's true.
That's true.
He don't have a cell phone.
He don't have a cell phone?
No, no, no.
Oh, you're calling the house.
I'm calling the house.
He could be out.
He could be swimming.
He could be out.
No, he stopped.
He don't do the swimming no more.
Oh, shit.
Scan up there, bro.
77.
Wow.
77.
Up there.
Anyway.
That's a good age.
I had my first Father's Day
sort of
this weekend
that's right
oh shit
yeah man
how was that man
it was cool
I went to my girl's parents
my girl's brother's house
and you know
they do this big thing
with like the dads
and the family
and like you know
they all
they got like a ton of kids
running around
and I'm like the first
I'm like the new
guy in the family
so they kind of like
gave me a little shit
but it was like
good hearted shit.
What'd they say?
No,
they were just like,
you know,
you're new
and you know,
you're gonna have
a little girl
and you know,
girls are-
Welcome to the first day
your happiness
doesn't matter anymore.
Yeah,
they're all just like,
you know,
the same shit
everybody says.
about daddy happiness.
When your like,
girl's family
is giving you shit,
do you ever look at them
like,
you know I bust in your sister's life. Wow you shit, do you ever look at them like, you know I
bust in your sister's.
Wow.
Like, what are you going to say to me?
You know at any point in time I could shut down the whole dinner.
I mean, listen.
I win.
I know for a fact Andrew has used that line on an ex's family member.
100.
I know for a fact.
Wait a minute, you were there for it?
No, you told me about it immediately after.
And dude was
Dude got a bollock too
Oh nah he could've
Whooped my ass
But at the same time
When I recovered
I busted his sister again
So
What you really gonna do?
I win
Like who's gonna
Nurse you back to health?
Not you
Probably your sister
Like so
It's a lose lose
Either way
It's a lose lose
Either way
But nah it was cool man
It was cool man Like they had like A big cookout and shit And you know It was really little either way. But that was cool, man. It was cool, man.
They had a big
cookout and shit
and it was really
weird, but it's
all kind of
settling in.
Like, yeah,
you're about to
be a dad shit.
What's more
disrespectful?
I bust in your
sister or she
sucks my dick?
Oh my gosh.
Jesus Christ.
You always take
it a little too
far.
That was the
second one.
That was the
second one.
All right. I was just wondering. We're talking about a was the second one. All right.
I was just wondering.
We're talking about a mother here.
God.
Oh, gosh.
If you have to ask, you know the answer, God damn it.
You're the end of this.
Gracious.
You know anything your mom's a suck your dad's dick?
Y'all crazy.
I know my mom suck my dad's dick.
I know for a fact.
I know for a fact.
I had a bunch of brothers swallowed.
My mom was a saint.
I had a bunch of brothers got gobbled up.
You know what I mean?
It should have been a big family.
My dad was 40 when he had me.
You know that because he had a good four years of wasting sperms.
You know what I mean?
A lot of shots getting let off in the air.
That was a lot of shit.
You want me to get a little towel to wipe you up?
That was a lot of those.
That was a lot of those in my family.
It was like New Year's Eve, just letting shots out in the air.
Happy New Year.
You know what I mean?
You're not playing no games out here.
If you think Larry Schultz wasn't getting his dick sucked, you got another thing coming.
You know what I mean?
Y'all ever walked into your parents?
Say what?
Y'all ever walked in on your parents?
Hell no.
Nah, but I would hear them.
I hear my parents fuck all the time.
Oh my God.
All the time.
My dad making no noise.
Mom, like a fucking gentleman.
My dad is a professional. Went about his business. My mom is screaming. I don't want to hear Mama Schultz. Please don't. No, like a fucking gentleman. My dad is a professional. What about his business?
My mom is screaming.
I don't want to hear Mama Schultz. Please don't.
No, no, no.
Ladi!
Ladi!
Ladi!
I thought you were saying Ladi,
not Larry. It kind of sounds like that
with your accent. Ladi!
Ladi! We like to party. My brother would always We're saying Laddie, not Larry. It kind of sounds like that with their accent. Laddie. Laddie.
Laddie, daddy.
We like to party.
My brother would always try to knock on the door like he didn't know what the fuck they were doing.
My brother would knock on the door with concern.
He'd be like, are you okay, mom?
No, she's not.
She's getting that hammer.
The Larry hammer, bro.
Al Schultz bringing it down.
Ragnarok. That's what they call myz bringing it down. Ragnarok.
That's what they call my dad.
Motherfucking Ragnarok.
Ragnarok.
God damn it.
Oh my God.
Anyway.
I remember I was at Andrew's place
and we first started getting cool.
You live with your folks
and then it's like two in the morning
and we're just working on a script
without him or whatever.
But then his dad just walks out with his shirt.
Oh hell yeah.
No drawers. Just dick hanging out of dick hanging out like winnie the pooh
with a big ass dick big dick energy larry schultz big dick energy and then he saw me and he was like
oh and he like kind of kind of tried to cover it up, but he didn't really give a fuck.
He was like, you're in my house, man.
You know what's dope, though, is when you walk in with just the shirt on.
He had that white tee.
He'd always sleep in a white tee, no drawers, because he might have to fuck.
He might have to fuck in the middle of the night, right?
So white tee, no drawers, right?
Walk out the room, go to the bathroom.
We're chilling there, no draws, right? Walk out the room, go to the bathroom, we're chilling there, dick out, right?
Sometimes, if he was really tired, he'd just wave, he wouldn't acknowledge it at all.
Other times, what he would do is, he goes,
When you wave, you lift the shirt more.
Yeah, you lift it even up.
He goes, oh, oh, and he'd take the shirt and he'd pull it down over his dick,
and that would just expose his ass even more.
So, he'd just walk by and it was just cheeks flapping.
It's always a strange
day the first time you see your father's dick.
Depressing day.
I never had a bigger dick than me.
Your dad got a bigger dick than you?
At that point, yes.
I think dicks got smaller over the
generations.
Real talk,
real talk. My dad got a bigger dick
than me. My dad's dick fat and shit.
Yo, my dad's dick is crazy.
Bro, his dick was nuts.
Yo, it's crazy.
I haven't seen my dad's dick.
I've seen your dad's dick.
There's so many wrong things about this.
That shit ain't even Ragnarok.
That's the Hulk in Ragnarok.
Dude, that's real shit.
He's constantly coming in
breaking shit.
Shit is nuts, bro. All I'm saying is if your dick
was that big, you wouldn't wear underwear either.
That's discomfort underwear.
That's mad constricting.
Bro, shit was crazy, dude.
I was waiting to grow into that shit.
Like, what's up?
I'm 35.
Well, my dick don't be like you, dad.
Did you ask him that and you walked home?
Yeah.
I was like, what's the hardest part about being a dad?
He was like, seeing your son's dick not grow up to your size.
Being disappointed at your son's dick.
I'm telling you, it's all the preservatives and shit we were eating.
I'm telling you.
I was eating fruit snacks my whole life.
My dad didn't have fruit snacks.
He's 77.
He grew up on fucking apples and shit, whatever.
Actual food.
Actual food.
Your dad's serving the war, though.
He deserved that big ass food.
Son, they kept him here.
They had to preserve that dick.
He was in the army.
They wouldn't let him go to Vietnam.
It would have scared them little Asians' dicks.
That's how we could have ended the war.
My dad walked up in his night outfit.
That shawty bomb.
He's like, he just walked right up.
Viet Cong?
You ain't got shit on me.
Hero shotsie.
Just walking
through the fucking Vietnam
fire with the dick like Thor's hammer
just swinging that shit like. You're walking through them
jungles, bro? I am worthy.
Son, imagine him walking through
them jungles, no machete just dick
chopping through weeds
son
we didn't lose that war
though
you're not Captain America
you're right
we should have
sent him out there
you're not Captain America
dog
you're not worthy
of the hammer
fuck bro
I'm not worthy
of the hammer bro
it's like
fucking Asia Ultron
he tried to lift the hammer
it's like
ah
dude
real talk I need to ask my mom how she took all that bro oh my god bro It's like fucking Asia Ultron. He tried to lift the hammer. It's like, ah. Dude.
Real talk.
I need to ask my mom how she took all that, bro. Oh, my gosh.
Bro.
Ask her on Mother's Day.
Yo, that's her gift.
I won't fuck you today.
She's like, thank God.
Jesus.
I got shit to do today.
I always used to worry about my mom because I was 10 pounds
when I was born
I was a big ass baby
I was like
how the fuck
you push me out
now you know
same
we got it
she was like
light work
light work
you just shot out of there
and it comes out
like Superman
doctor just caught you
like that episode
of Martin
you don't need
no umbilical cord
this is TV
god damn it alright alright how do we get into this You don't need no umbilical cord. This is TV.
God damn it.
Oy yoy yoy.
All right.
All right.
How do we get into this?
OJ. Dad dicks.
Oh, yeah.
So OJ's on Twitter.
OJ's the greatest.
He's without hyperbole.
And you could co-sign me on this new guy who's not Alex.
Oh, my bad.
Y'all don't know each other?
No, we know.
I'm just saying for the people watching. Yo, Alex is on vacation. Already fucked up. I need to call out Alex. Oh, my bad. Y'all don't know each other? Chris. No, we know. I'm just saying for the people watching.
Yo, Alex is on vacation.
Already fucked up.
I need to call out Alex.
Isn't his ankle fucked up?
Oh, no.
He did get injured.
Goddamn.
That was such a funny fashion video.
How did that happen?
We are washed.
I really want one, though.
Let me tell you how washed we are.
Let me tell you how fucking washed we are.
We are in, I forget the city, Indianapolis.
Now, whenever we go to these cities, they have these scooters that the city provides
or these companies provide.
And you could just-
You could just take them.
You take your bike for scooters.
But it's even better because you could litter.
You don't have to put them anywhere.
You just drop them off.
City bike, you got to find the docking, right?
So these you put wherever the fuck you want.
So we always scooter around.
And I knew it was going to happen.
We were going to eventually have an accident
an accident
with the scooter
it's after the
Friday show
we're feeling pretty good
a little drunk
we're scootering
back to the crib
we're right in front
of the crib
and we're just
scooting around
in circles
trying to figure out
what we're gonna do
where we're gonna go
how far we can get
some food
whatever
Alex sees a curb
oh Jesus
right
and I see him
go for it
and then turn right and then come again and then go
for him like oh is he gonna try to jump the curb he jumps it it's his fucking idiot the front wheel
hits the curb oh shit right he kind of bounces over and he keeps his hand on the accelerator. Oh, God.
But his feet on the ground.
So the shit just ran through.
No, so he starts to spin around a circle, drops, hits the ground.
The only thing I'm thinking about is his sneakers, because he had them Travis Scott ones.
Oh, damn.
That's rough.
Yeah, bad.
He is fucked up.
The ankle's all swollen.
He's going in a circle like Homer Simpson on the motorcycle.
Yes, and now he's walking like Maggie or whatever. what's the baby maggie's the maggie right now
he was on his knees crawling the next day like bad wow like could not move pumped him up full
of tylenol shit show must go on show must go on ice that night though after alex fell
i was like if i have to prove Alex. He's already
at his lowest point.
So I have to make him go underneath
the ground by showing him I could
jump onto the curb. Oh my god,
of course.
The first time I try to jump on a curb,
I go right over the handlebars,
bro.
Dude, I don't even think I jumped.
I think I was so concentrated on something else
i just ran right into the curb i front flipped over the handlebars okay somehow all i got was
a scratch on my hand my privilege i guess so bro i guess so bro it was un-fucking it was
un-fucking real so we both bust our goddamn ass and then somehow mark managed to do it
i guess what I'm saying
is we're too old
this 30 plus shit
I don't know why
you're going around
on scooters
no kid shit
the scooter at 35
is literally
you're asking for
awful things to happen to you
what's that goofy ass
thing security guards
have sometimes
that fucking thing
Segway
it's a Segway for us
that's all it is
point A to point B
it's not a razor
it's a Segway
no you're right.
And we were...
Didn't y'all ride a scooter together, too?
Shut the fuck up, man.
Damn, man.
Who the fuck invited you to this conversation?
Yo, calm that shit down over there, bro.
God damn.
You were not there yet.
You were not there yet.
God damn.
So anyway, like I was saying.
Chris, do you have anything to say?
Chris.
Would you like to contribute to the conversation at all, Chris?
Honestly, that shit made for some great content, though. Yeah, you're right. I was saying. Chris, do you have anything to say? Chris. Would you like to contribute to the conversation at all, Chris? Honestly, that shit made
for some great content, though.
Yeah, you're right.
I watched it.
I was intrigued.
Then I saw the fashion video.
I was like,
God damn it, I really want one.
She was flying.
I'm not going to lie.
We killed that fashion.
The curling.
I got to give Al credit
because we're pushing him
around the airport
in a wheelchair, right,
which is the only way
to be at the airport, by the way.
We're going to milk this injury.
I said, Al,
as long as you feel any bit of pain,
like, please, we're using a wheelchair because it's right away. We're already
TSA pre-checked. We're already clear. Now we're
chopping all the lines up. Al, I'm
pushing him around and he has a cane, right?
And I don't know why
he thought of this, but he started like rubbing the cane
on the ground. He goes, oh yeah, it's like that white
people sport. I go go what are you talking about
he's like you know the one
where they did clean the ice
and I was like
clean the ice
oh shit
that's it
we gotta fashion
and when I tell you
we did about five takes of that
when I tell you
we left two pieces of luggage
in the middle of the airport
and we were like
50 feet away from it
yeah I can't do this
and we had TSA
and different airport employees
walking up like,
is this anybody's luggage?
Is this anybody's luggage?
Like, we had people ready to, like, shut down the airport
because you can't leave luggage around.
Yeah, you can't just leave a bag of anything.
Man, we pulled that shit off.
Looked good.
Can't stop.
Can't stop.
Content don't stop, yo.
Can't stop.
Content don't stop. Can't stop. So't stop. Can't stop. Can't stop.
Won't stop.
So like I was saying, man, I was going to ask Alex when he got here, but since you're
here, Chris, is OJ Simpson the wildest nigga to ever live?
OJ is definitely a legend.
He is the wildest nigga to ever, like, to live ever.
Like, his life makes no sense to me.
Like, you killed a white woman.
You killed a white woman.
And a Jew.
And a Jew.
Yeah. We all know who you are you're not just like a random black dude like we all know who you are you blew like
you were like the fucking lebron of your time i'm talking about like you're on like the tiger woods
of your time the most marketable athlete on earth you killed a white woman yeah allegedly got away with it and usually you just
kind of lay low and count your blessings like damn all right i'm glad to have my freedom no
this motherfucker goes back to jail for stealing his own merchandise does his time comes back you
would think he would chill after that no he puts He puts out a book called If I Did It.
And the if is like this little.
And then he starts a Twitter account where basically he's saying,
I want all y'all motherfuckers to keep that same energy that he was talking that shit.
Is there a more terrifying sentence in social media history than OJ,
I got a little getting even to do?
We've seen how OJ settles scores. This shit ain't a little getting even to do. We've seen how OJ settles scores.
This shit ain't a little getting even to do.
Has anybody even talked shit to him since he's been on?
I'm sure.
We've all talked shit about OJ at one point.
No, since he's been on.
Since he's been on Twitter, I'm sure.
I don't think anybody's got the balls to.
Nah, I'm sure.
Like, you know he could get away with it.
You know what he's allegedly capable of. How long
did he do because of the stealing
the merchandise? I think like six years. Upwards
of a decade, I think. Yeah, it was close.
When I first moved to New York, it was 08, and then he
was on trial, and I think he got sentenced 08, 09.
And he got out like a year or two ago.
So like, eight, nine years.
Ish. Wow. The best thing
about like OJ's Twitter is like
literally every tweet is riveting.
I would watch him do the most simple shit.
I'm disturbed by all of it.
I'd be terrified.
I'd be terrified by it.
This shit's cool.
This motherfucker disturbs me.
Yo, he's literally doing all black uncle shit.
If he's just sitting there in his old school fucking college shirt watering the grass,
I would be sitting there like, this is terrifying.
Yo, you know what's crazy?
It's not, but it is.
This just goes to show you that we don't believe rappers.
Because all these rappers have been talking about killing people forever.
I mean, some rappers have killed people.
Yeah, but we follow them and we don't give a fuck.
It means nothing.
Gucci Mane definitely killed a guy.
Yeah, but in some self-defense.
He wasn't like...
Killed a guy, though.
Got it on his record.
Fam, it's mad easy to kill someone self-defense.
Me or you?
Me or you?
Come on, yo.
But then he talked shit about it on record.
Someone tried to kill me.
I'll talk some shit.
You tried to kill me.
I killed you.
What I'm saying, OJ did it off of like, you fucked my girl.
It was rage
yeah
that's a rage killing
it's like
when you stab someone
that's a rage killing
you fucked my ex
who I beat to death almost
yeah
how dare you
bro
all I'm saying is
it's like
we've been following
rappers forever
yeah
and letting them talk
all this shit about killing
and it just proves
that we don't believe him
because now that OJ's out there
and we know
that he killed somebody or we at least feel that he kills him, now we're having this conversation
like, it's so scary to see somebody talk.
Yeah, it's only fun for me if I think a rapper's lying.
That's my point.
My point is we know rappers lie.
Yeah.
And that's why-
But that's always the terrifying shit.
That's why 6ix9ine's fine.
All of us are like, I can't believe 6ix9ine is saying all this shit, but he's not really
living it.
We don't believe any of them living it.
No.
His second OJ's back is headlines.
This guy only killed two people.
That's nothing.
Only two.
How many people did Chief Keef talk about killing?
I think he...
You know how wild you got to be.
How many people did he talk about killing?
30, 40?
I'm pretty sure he definitely got somebody.
At least one.
I'm not saying he didn't.
I'm not saying he didn't.
Who are you more scared of
in the street,
Chief Keef or OJ?
Chief Keef, by far.
In a small space.
Nah, nah, nah.
First off, OJ's like seven.
What about now?
Like you said,
you can be-
That's why I said small space.
So it's like,
all right,
so OJ's in his room right now.
He's standing at the door.
I can't get out the door
without OJ
getting through OJ.
I'm running through
that motherfucker, bro.
That's what fucking
Nicole's boo
taught. Yeah, it was 30 years ago. He was way past his
prom. He ain't got that
acceleration speed. OJ's 71.
71 years old?
I can't get past no 71-year-old OJ.
I could outrun that motherfucker for a certain
time. I'd crack him right in his Achilles.
Such an old black-ass.
That's fair. I do believe you could get
by him. I'm saying what would make you more nervous, right?
You have right in front of you.
Chief Keef makes me infinitely more nervous.
Chief Keef.
Yeah.
Right?
OJ Thanos.
Or OJ.
Chief Keef, that Thanos underling that shot the glass at motherfuckers.
Which one?
OJ Thanos out this bitch.
The thing is, though.
OJ put his hand on your shoulder.
You don't feel nervous?
No, but that's it.
I don't at all. Because like you
said, it was a rage killing. Like I wouldn't
piss off OJ like that.
A nigga with guns? What if he
thought you pissed him off? That's very easy to shoot somebody.
What if he thought?
What if he thought you pissed him off?
OJ can't see me with the hands.
You're crazy.
Oh, he's 70 years old.
He got nothing to lose. He's 70 years old He got nothing to lose He's 70 years old
I don't lose
I don't disagree
But I think
Chief Keef got his whole life
Yes
I'm infinitely more nervous
About this motherfucker
Wait OJ or Chief Keef
Chief Keef
Absolutely
Hold on one second
Hold on one second
So you have
You have 71 year old OJ
Who has no problem
Doing jail time
I've seen Chief Keef
In videos with bazookas
I don't give a fuck
What you mean Let me ask you a question You ain't shooting me With a bazooka When was the last time You heard Keef in videos with bazookas. I don't give a fuck. What you mean?
You ain't shooting me with a bazooka in this last place.
When was the last time you heard of someone getting killed with a bazooka?
I'm just saying. He has access to
things that can kill me very easily.
Nobody ever been killed with a bazooka.
I think in life. Except in like Iraq and shit.
Ain't nobody died from that.
They shoot up your house or something.
If you want to kill one person with a bazooka. How do you think firefights
start? What?
Listen, first of all, you said Iraq, not Chiraq.
All right?
So, fucking chill.
This ain't the Middle East.
I mean, they do have bazookas in Iraq.
I'm saying Samuel O.J. would have a gun, and clearly he's already doing time.
He's done it.
He almost did it once, and then was like, you know what?
Fuck it.
Let's just go.
There isn't a rapper on this fucking earth that makes me more afraid than O.J.
None of them.
Because they all want to be rappers.
Well, you're also white.
Yeah, he kills whites.
I get that.
That's what I'm saying.
I can see why you'd be more nervous than OJ.
OJ kills whites.
And Jews.
And Jews.
You think Schultz is both?
Yeah.
I'm the prime target.
Okay?
I look like I fucked his wife.
You're a Tinder match for OJ's killing.
He's been dying.
He's been years building up.
It's fucking Candyman or whatever that guy is.
Ah, damn.
Real talk, man.
You gotta be worried.
There's gotta be some sort of betting on it.
Chief Keef kills blacks.
You should be more nervous about Keef.
Allegedly.
He is more nervous about Keef.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm telling you.
This is exactly why.
You made my point for me.
I'm sorry to make your own argument. Sorry about that. Let's make a circle. Let's hit the Raptors. All right, fuck it. I'm telling you. This is exactly why. You made my point for me. I just started to make your own argument.
Sorry about that.
Let's win the circle.
Let's hit the Raptors.
All right, fuck it.
Let's do it.
New NBA champions who I called a year ago at this time.
You did.
Give me my goddamn credit.
I also said Golden State wouldn't win it all.
You did.
The Astros dynasty has come to an end, guys.
I mean, you did get kind of lucky with a couple injuries, but you did call it.
That's how they won all their championships is getting lucky with major injuries.
They are the Astros dynasty, and it came to an end. Are the Masters
and Asterix winners then?
Yeah, I'd give them that. So is every team
that wins when they're not,
when the other team is not at full potential in Asterix?
I
don't want to shit on your theory, but
I hear your point. Here's where I would find the nuance.
That's every team. I remember LeBron after
Ray Allen, and I love the self-awareness.
After Ray Allen hit that three and then they won the championship,
they asked LeBron what was going through your mind as you missed that shot,
blah, blah, blah.
And you think he would be like, you know, I always have belief, blah, blah, blah.
And he goes, let me tell you something, man.
You need a little bit of luck to win a championship.
Yeah, of course.
And I believe that.
You need a little bit of luck.
I think the other team's best or second and third best players getting hurt
every time you win a championship is more than a little bit of luck.
Yeah, I can see that.
Anytime you face adversity, their best players go down.
That's more than a little bit of luck.
Andre Iguodala getting hurt or like if Fred Van Fleet got hurt, that's a little bit of luck.
They didn't beat the Cavs with full –
They beat the Cavs with full strength once, but the series before that, they also went underneath Kawhi's ankle, who Kawhi, as we've seen, is a one-man wrecking crew.
Yeah, but now you're doing different.
They beat the best Cavs.
Oh, no, not always in finals.
Yeah, they beat the best Cavs with Kevin Durant, but the series before that, they were getting washed by Kawhi.
Right.
And then dirtiest play I've seen in the playoffs.
Right.
Slide underneath his foot, take him out, and then you win.
Right.
And then you sleep.
But they've also come back from 3-1.
They did come back from 3-1.
I give them that.
I think that you make a good point about the Asterix
with certain situations,
but they have already come back from 3-1 against a very good team.
It's more of a keep that same energy shot at anybody who's like,
oh, if Draymond doesn't get suspended for one game,
we win, we 3-peat.
Or if these injuries—
It's more of me saying,
you know what, keep that same energy
and acknowledge that you are
the luckiest team I've seen
with injuries dynasty-wise.
Right.
And that's fine.
You play who's in front of you,
but you're also the luckiest team I've seen.
Right.
I wouldn't go so...
I disagree.
I think that they're just
the most talented team
that we've ever seen assembled.
No, I get it, but I just can't...
If somebody can find me a dynasty that got this lucky with injuries, cool.
I'll back off.
But I just can't think of one.
Meaning like the teams that they played.
Yes, the teams that you played constantly losing their best players.
Are Houston, is Houston.
Houston, Chris Paul, you're down 3-2.
No, no, no.
Is Houston the old Rockets with Olajuwon?
Are they an asterisk?
I think that's something you bring up.
Yeah.
There's no MJ.
They didn't have to go against Jordan.
Right.
But that's, it's like, does that take away the ring?
I don't know.
Part of me is like, that's part of the game.
That's part of life.
It's part of the game.
Injuries are part of the game.
Health is part of the game.
You're the one who always says the best ability is availability.
And if like you're not healthy enough to go when it's go time, then.
Do you keep the same energy with football?
Football, I don't think there are any asterisks because there's just always massive injuries.
Right.
So it's like, so basketball, you're saying there's less injuries so you can apply the asterisk rule?
So to me, and again, it's more of a keep that same energy thing when you bitch about Draymond or this series.
Oh, I tell, yeah.
For me, I'm like, shut the fuck up.
That's basketball.
That's the energy I'm keeping is injuries are part of basketball.
And making it through a whole season, one of the difficulties is health.
So if you ask me in a one-on-one,
am I ever actually going to be like,
the Warriors shouldn't have any champs?
No, they're fucking good.
But when Warriors fans are like,
man, if Draymond doesn't, or whatever,
then it's like, all right.
And I can say, I'm not going to put an asterisk by it.
I'm saying that mockingly, but like you are,
you just happen to be the luckiest team I've seen with injuries.
I could also make the argument.
That's fine. You're champs.
You win it.
I wouldn't actually put an asterisk by anybody's championship.
You win, and that's all history is going to remember.
But if you're going to complain about luck, you are the luckiest team I've seen with injuries.
You could also make the argument, though, that even at full strength, those guys aren't touching a full-strength Warriors team.
Who, the Raptors?
Any team.
Any of these teams that they went up against, them at full strength, I still don't think they were better than any of those Warriors team. Who, the Raptors? Any team. Any of these teams that they went up against, them at full strength, I still don't think they were
better than any of those Warriors
teams, except maybe the first
Cavs-Warriors team that didn't have
Kyrie and Kevin Love. Oh, that team would have won.
I think Cleveland would at least have took it to 6 or
7 and maybe won it all. Took it to 6 without them.
They would have won. Boom, exactly. They might have won.
And then the Warriors at that time didn't have championship
medal. I think when they came back against OKC
that year, they were champs.
It was a different thing with them.
73 wins.
That stuff at the fucking apex of his powers.
I think they honestly probably beat the Spurs with Kawhi, but it is fucked that a dirty play takes out the guy who was destroying your team.
Down 20.
You're down 25, I think.
Yeah, I don't know.
I just don't want to put the asterisks because I think once we start putting asterisks.
No, I don't actually want to put an asterisk, but it's a funny soundbite to say they're an asterisk.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Because then we can go back and we can question every single team in the history of the game.
With that being said, I feel like the Raptors are feeling very Dallas Mavericks-y to me.
Yeah.
I kind of feel like it's kind of this one-all.
Bill Russell shouldn't have 11 rings.
They didn't let blacks play basketball back then.
We can keep going back.
But, but,
um,
yeah,
it's a tricky,
it's a,
it's a,
it's a tricky thing.
And,
and you never know what you're going to do until you're put in that
situation.
Like you never know that you're capable of coming back from three,
one until you are like LeBron did it.
Golden state almost did it this time.
Hey,
and a lot of people might say if Clay didn't go down,
I don't,
cause it felt like this is one of those Golden State
runs.
Like as it's happening.
It was game six Klay happening again.
And then it felt like a fucking Buffalo Wild Wings commercial.
Yeah.
That's what it felt like.
It's like every time the Warriors were about to make a move, somebody turned a switch somewhere.
Injury.
Right?
It was unbelievable to see this go down.
They were literally
In the middle of a run
And Clay goes up for a dunk
Routine
That would have put them up
I think like six or seven
Or some shit like that
And then
And Clay don't have hops
To come down from a dunk
And tear his ACL
There's certain people
I could see coming down
From a leap
And then coming
And then tearing your ACL
But this is a guy
Who barely gets off the ground
Yeah
Yeah yeah yeah
China Clay gets
You know they got all those Videos of him like missing dunks in china and shit yeah no bounce and it's so just
fucking poetic that like he tears his acl going for a dunk but it was just so odd like that must
have been ready to go yeah that had to be ready to go you don't just tear your acl stuff knew it
too like stuff threw like a fucking wild pass to him to like to get that dunk because they were
just they were just flying.
They were just trying to get as many fast break points as he can.
Throws it hard.
Literally, as soon as he comes down, you see Steph slam the ball on the floor and sit all
the way in the fucking-
Because he knew it.
He saw it go down.
Everybody saw it.
As soon as he fucking saw that replay, I was like, yeah, that's an ACL.
That's not-
Can't be acting like he a doctor.
As soon as I saw it, I knew.
Yeah.
I knew.
Bro, you see how that turns.
When I saw the-
Well, there knew. Yeah. I knew it kept rolling. You see that knee, how that turns. When I saw the, well, there's two things.
When you come down and can't move, and it looked pretty easy the way you came down,
I think that's a guaranteed injury.
Yeah.
I knew it was an injury.
And then when he fucking, but he went.
No, no.
I didn't know.
You know it's an injury, but you don't know torn ACL.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like when people.
No, no, no.
When I saw it, I thought it was an injury.
I thought it was an injury.
No, no, no. It's in my DNA. I get this shit. No, no, no. I thought thought it was an injury but I knew it was a torn ACL
what else was it
that's literally
everybody cares about ACL
you got a headache
maybe he sprained a knee
maybe he sprained an MCL
that's best case scenario
and when he runs back out on the court
I was like maybe he's a sprain or something
I don't know that's usually how it goes how did Chris Stapps do it That's best case scenario. Yeah. And when he runs back out on the court, I was like, maybe he's a sprain or something.
I don't know.
I figured he's hurt.
That's usually how it goes.
You go up and you land. How did Chris Stapps do it?
I don't know.
Same shit.
Went up to dunk over Giannis.
Same shit.
How did everybody tear their fucking ACL when they come down from a dunk?
If you come down from any movement, one leg, and you can't move the knee, ACL.
Guaranteed.
And it bent right where the ACL was.
Dude, I don't even want. Dude, there's a video of it. Did you guys see the slow motion video of it? I saw the ACL was dude I don't even want
dude there's a video of it
did you guys see the
slow motion video of it
I saw the replay
I didn't see any
oh my god
and he's fucking
and yo
like more props to him
cause he was over there
bouncing around
that's fucking crazy
I was like this dude's nuts
jogs back out on the court
and again that's why
I'm like there's gotta be a sprain
there's no way
this motherfucker
he's going back on defense
like jumping up and down
like ready to play D and I'm like yo it's got to be a sprain. There's no way this motherfucker is talking on an ACL. He's going back on defense, like jumping up and down,
like ready to play D.
And I'm like, yo,
does this motherfucking even know he had a tornado?
And if you watch the replay,
if you watch the actual game,
they go to Doorsburg one,
they go to Doorsburg backstage
or behind the court, whatever,
and like, oh, you know,
Clay's trying to get himself to play.
We don't know.
And literally two minutes later,
they go back to his like,
oh yeah, no, he's done.
He won't return.
Like that quick. So you could minutes later they go back to his like, oh yeah, no, he's done. He won't return. Like that quick.
So you could tell Clay was still back there like convincing motherfuckers he was good
to go.
They showed that replay of him walking to the tunnel and then somebody says something
to him and then I guess you got to shoot free throws.
Yeah.
If they take you out to not shoot free throws, you're out for the game.
Then he just fucking sprints back onto the court.
Right.
On a torn ACL.
Crazy. Yeah. Crazy.
Yeah.
Crazy.
Yeah.
Malfoy gets props, man.
He gets a shit ton of props for that shit.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's a smart move, right?
He doesn't know that his ACL is torn, or at least he's trying really hard to believe it's
not.
And he knows that if he comes out of the game and doesn't shoot his free throws, he can't
come back in the game at all.
Closeout game.
So he's like, well, fuck it.
I'll shoot the free throws.
I'll go back to the locker room.
Maybe it's just a little sprain. Maybe some Paul Pierce
shit. I bet
you that's what he's thinking in that moment. He's like, oh,
playoffs? Paul went out? What was it?
Paul shit his pants.
Now we know that. You know what I mean?
Yeah, we know that now.
You got access to this. What'd you think happened in the
moment? In the moment? I thought it was ACL.
I thought it was a quick sprain
because he was still bouncing up and down.
I'm like, all right, he's hurt,
but he ain't going to go out like this.
When they carried that motherfucker out,
I thought it was ACL, bro.
I thought it might be,
but then he's walking and bouncing and jumping.
I was like, maybe it's a sprain.
He's going to fight through it,
which I also thought was a beast thing.
I'm talking about Paul.
Oh, Paul?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought Paul was on.
Yeah.
Anyway. Okay, Paul? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Paul was on. Yeah. Anyway.
Okay, so Raptors win.
Well, first, before we figure out what the Warriors are going to do for next season,
because I think next season is going to be an interesting conversation,
I think we have to salute the best fans in the entire NBA,
which are the Toronto Raptors fans.
I don't think that there is a city with better fans than
the Toronto Raptors. They're a whole country.
Right now, I know it's their own country. I know it's a whole country,
but we also have to consider that
that's to their detriment as well,
right? Because their whole country,
there are people that
are 3,000 miles away from Toronto
that are still rooting for Toronto,
that are still getting behind Toronto.
They have no connection to that city.
Matter of fact, they hate the teams in hockey
that play for that city.
Oh, for sure.
Right?
But they're just getting behind them.
They had 2 million people come out for the parade
that's going on right now.
2 million people.
That's crazy.
My friend sent me a video.
I was in Montreal, to be fair.
I was in Montreal, and I was with family.
We put kids to bed and stuff, and then one, we went out there, and the shit was ending
in Montreal.
The celebration was done.
People are leaving.
I'm like, are you fucking... This is whack.
Right.
But then my homie sent me a video from Toronto, 1.30 in the morning.
It's fucking crazy, dude.
They did not stop.
That's the thing.
You got to understand, the fact that they're celebrating in Montreal is no different than like if the
Knicks were celebrating the Warriors win.
In New York, we were celebrating the Warriors win.
I'm telling you, there's rivalries between these places.
It's a different country.
It's like they don't like each other.
There's a vote in Montreal, I think every year, whether they should leave Canada.
Yeah, Quebec wants to secede or whatever.
Yeah.
So like it is nuts that there's this
national celebration with 2 million
people to come on a parade.
Think about that. This is Monday.
It ain't Sunday.
You have work. You have
jobs. You have like city
jobs. You have TSA
agents. There are people who
called in sick today. You can't get
nothing done. No. You can't get nothing done.
No.
You can't get a sandwich at Quiznos.
Nobody went to work today.
Nobody.
No.
I mean, the thing with that is, like, you got to understand, like, they only have one real pro championship since then, like Toronto Blue Jays.
Right.
It's been, what, 30 years?
Yeah.
37 years?
Something like that.
They don't got a football team.
And the rivalries dissipate when there's no actual team to have a rival.
Like, if there was a Montreal basketball team,
a Vancouver basketball team,
I think they'd be like, alright, cool, we beat America.
Great, we got one. Right. But I don't think
this is like, I can easily support the Raptors.
Matter of fact, there were kind of cool shirts in Montreal
that said, we the North, but we was O-U-I.
Like the French, we. Yeah, that's good.
So they're like, alright, this is all we got.
There's no reason to dislike this team.
The team, there's no reason to dislike.
But what happens when you have another team that you don't like there,
that gravitates to a city rivalry.
Like Boston versus New York is like a city rivalry.
It's not just sports.
Yeah.
I just don't like people from Boston.
Boom.
Exactly.
It has nothing to do with the sport.
Nothing to do with it.
I think when you take something that they care that as much as hockey, and there's that
big a rivalry as hockey, that I could see it getting.
So for them to look past it and just hop on board, fucking sick.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
It's just blown away.
And it's not even their main sport.
No.
That's why.
That's why it's such a huge accomplishment. That's why it's such a huge fucking celebration. Because it's not their main sport. No. That's why. That's why it's such a huge accomplishment.
That's why it's such a huge fucking celebration.
Because it's not their main sport.
They're a hockey town and a pro wrestling.
They're a hockey town and a pro wrestling town.
Basketball is still fairly new to them.
Vince Carter was the reason why basketball got big over there.
So it's still super fucking young.
But it was dope, man.
It felt like watching the fucking World Cup.
This is crazy.
Celebrating how the flags and the crowd and all the fucking banners and shit. It was great was it was dope man it felt like watching the fucking World Cup like how they were celebrating had the flags
and the crowd
and all the fucking
banners and shit
it was great
it was dope
we're never gonna see
a finals like this again
I don't think
what do you mean
one game was won at home
this entire series
and
they're two fucking
great fan bases at home
like none of it
makes any sense
the best fans are
Raptors
that Warriors fan base
ain't shit though now it's been diluted now, probably.
But historically, the Warriors fans are incredible.
Like, that's a tough place to play.
I think they were.
I think they got spoiled, though.
They got spoiled.
They got rich.
They got white.
They got priced out.
They priced a lot of their people out.
Yeah, like the OG We Believe Warriors.
Also, let's clarify.
The whites got priced out by the Asians.
Ain't no more white people in Kansas City.
Asians don't even know how to have emotion.
So, like, it's even more so.
But it's crazy.
When we talk about gentrification, there's an Asian gentrification in Silicon Valley.
It's hilarious.
That's great.
So the Asians are forcing the whites to move the blacks.
Seriously, bro.
So the whites are moving into Oakland and they're just like, blame the Asians.
We don't want to live with y'all.
But the Asians took everything.
Real talk.
It's a crazy thing going.
It is nuts over there, man.
It is nuts.
But you had that.
You have two massive NBA changing injuries.
You got Kawhi, a free agent that was traded for that year, who's a free agent now, who
you still don't know if he's gonna stay even with a ring
that's a good combo
like this is
there's so much
in this series
it's crazy
I gotta shout my boy
who listens to the podcast
my boy Levine
he has said
Jason said
you know what Kawhi should do
Kawhi should just
pick a shitty team
every year
sign one year contracts
take them to the finals
and win it
and he'll be like
a basketball Robin Hood.
That is genius.
That's go-shit.
What if he just goes to the worst team in the league?
He's like the basketball Deion Sanders.
Just go to the worst team in the league
and then take them to the finals every fucking year.
So he'd naturally go to the Knicks this year, right?
No.
Dude, fuck the Knicks, man.
God damn it. We'll get to that later. Oh, yeah? No. Fuck the Knicks, man.
We'll get to that later.
So you were saying... The Warriors, what do they do?
What do the Warriors do? Can I ask one real quick question? Sorry, about the Warriors.
Is this... Give me that pen and paper.
Is the Klay injury their karma
for pressuring Kevin Durant into playing
Game 5? Because if KD doesn't play, you lose
Game 5. KD is fine.
Klay doesn't get hurt in Game 6. Is that your karma for putting pressure on a guy you knew was gonna leave to play honestly
that's the first thing I thought about the future that's the first thing I thought when Katie went
down I was like you only put him out there because you know he's not coming back you're like fuck
we're gonna get anything we can out of him because we're dying right now yeah and you know and they
knew Clay wasn't going anywhere everybody in the world Klay wasn't going anywhere. Everybody in the world know Klay wasn't going anywhere.
And now he's done
for the year.
And I don't know
what to do.
If I'm the Warriors,
like, do you waste
the year of Steps Prime
just like fucking
going him and Draymond
versus the world?
Or do you say,
all right, Klay,
you go ahead.
KD, you go ahead.
And you put yourself
into the free agent pool
and you make yourself
a fucking,
a player with like the Kawhis and you make yourself a fucking player with
the Kawhis and the Butlers and the Tobias Harris's of the world.
What do you do?
I feel like you have to sign Klay because the Warriors work best with Klay.
Nobody fits that system better than Klay.
You need Klay.
Of course.
Nobody.
You're resigning Klay.
I have a question.
KD, I don't think you're-
I think KD's gone.
If KD opts out, I don't-
KD's gone.
I mean, KD's gone. Klay is going to stay. I don't – KD's gone. I mean, KD's gone.
Klay is going to stay.
I think Klay's father said he's absolutely –
Klay said he's absolutely not going anywhere.
And let's be honest.
If there is one person who is built for an ACL injury, it's Klay Thompson.
He's already shown it.
He's an amazing shooter.
He is not only toughness.
Yeah, yeah.
He's absolutely tough.
He's an amazing shooter.
He does not rely on his athleticism at all.
I wonder if it will affect him defensively.
That's probably the only way it will affect him.
It might affect him defensively.
Because you need to slide with those ACLs.
You need to slide.
Yeah.
But if there is an injury that it seems that people can come back from now.
ACL is not what it used to be.
It really isn't.
Isn't that fascinating?
In our lifetime, in our adult lifetime.
That shit took out Penny and Grant Hill.
Goats.
In their prime.
Well, it wasn't Grant and an ankle, right?
Yeah, Grant was an ankle.
It was an ankle.
Penny was the ACL.
Antonio McDyess was another ACL guy.
Took everything.
These were great talents at one point.
And now it is a normal, it's almost like Tommy John surgery for pitching.
Whereas I imagine earlier in their lives, that was it. That's why they called it Tommy John surgery for pitching. Whereas like I imagine earlier in their lives –
That's why they called it Tommy John surgery.
It was over, right?
And now they can come back to throwing harder.
That's just what pitchers get now.
From what I'm saying, like you just get Tommy Johns.
For real.
So I was reading an article about it.
So here's the thing.
They take a – the reason why they would come back and throw harder is because they took a like –
Stronger muscle.
Stronger tendon.
Okay.
I think they take something from your thigh.
Yeah.
So here you have this arm one and they're like, fuck that.
You might as well take something from a horse.
Just put it in.
But then what they – they started looking at some studies and it said it's not necessarily the tendon.
I started looking at some studies and it said it's not necessarily the tendon.
It's that you're doing so much work on the muscles around the region that you're building up, I guess, an ability to throw harder.
Just in the rehab process.
Yes.
Okay.
So as a pitcher, you've got to be like, oh, maybe I should have lifted weights.
Right, right, right. I could add three miles per hour to my fastball.
So what do the Warriors look like next year, though?
I think the Warriors just, you know, they re-signed Klay.
I think we get to see what I've always wanted to see, which is Steph on a shitty team.
I want to see Steph go for 40 every single game.
My concern is, and it's going to happen, and my concern with the Warriors is,
specifically with Steph, is Steph cannot do that every game for a whole season.
He can't hold that.
He will break down.
So do you end up injuring Steph in the process?
I think you really got to limit him.
No back-to-backs.
You got to limit minutes.
And then when he does play, we're going to watch him go nut.
They'll probably make the playoffs, but it'll be a low seed.
And it'll be a really fun season for Steph.
I think it will be a historic season.
I think it's going to be a fun season.
Yeah, I called this on the other show.
I said, I think Steph's going to win MVP next year.
I think he's going to keep them in striking distance until Klay gets back.
People are going to see, instead of Steph going against the top defense in the NBA and the Raptors,
he's going to be going up against, like, who sucks right now?
Like, the Mavericks and the fucking Magic and these lower-tier teams.
The Knicks.
The Knicks, yeah.
They're going to be going against these lower tier teams where Steph, it doesn't matter
who, he's going to go off and they need him to go off to even be fucking comparable.
Yeah.
So he might average, he might fuck around and average like 35 next year.
Easily.
I can see it happening.
And play 60 games.
Mm-hmm.
I can see it.
65 games.
I still think the Warriors make the playoffs.
Yeah.
They're going to be a low seed.
Yeah.
But I think it would be the most exciting.
I mean, we would have these conversations, me and a couple of buddies,
and they're like, dude, how much fun would it be
if you just had Steph on a team where he could go nut?
Like where he could do what Lou Williams does.
Or James Harden does.
Or James Harden does.
Just comes in the game and just gets buckets.
Don't handle anything else.
And you could even have guys like Quinn Cook come in the game.
They could handle more of the distribution.
That's honestly what I think you do.
I think you sign a guy like fucking Malcolm Brogdon.
You make him the real point guard.
And then have Steph just go.
Just have him run around.
Go.
If you sit and watch him during a game, like you get exhausted watching how much this motherfucker just moves around.
Go, go, go.
To get an open shot.
And if he gets to do that for 82 games or I guess like 60 plus game,
if you're putting him on a minutes restriction, that's fun.
And that's a guy who could be MVP next year.
Okay, so let's talk about Kawhi next year and what Kawhi does.
I think he re-signs.
I think getting to the finals was the point at re-sign.
And winning, I think, guarantees it. That's my
theory. I have nothing to support this.
I have a hard time. I was listening to Simmons
saying he's quite possibly going to LA.
The Clippers. I don't see that, man.
If you win it, you stay.
There's just no reason. I know he don't
really give a fuck, but I'm not leaving a proven
winner. And they're set up.
So Raptors
what's his name? Lowry's coming off the books after next year.
And I think Lowry in the playoffs next year will be better.
I think once he won the championship, so much weight is lifted.
I think you're going to see him playing way more free.
I have a hard time believing after a good game six in a clinching game,
at least a great first half, you're still going to be nervous.
Good game six.
He was the MVP of game six.
Fair enough. He almost had a triple-d him. He was the MVP of game six. He won that game for him.
He almost had a triple-double.
He was 27-6-10.
21 in the first half?
Yeah.
It was done.
No, no.
I think what Kawhi allowed him to do is to excel at what he is great at.
He is a conductor.
And Pascal Siakam.
And Pascal.
Sure, Pascal, Mark, all of them help, right?
But what he is is an elite conductor.
Yeah.
And he's an elite conductor who is pretty good at scoring.
And earlier in his career, he had to step up his scoring.
But that's not his natural inclination.
It's not his natural inclination to just go in there and put up 30, 40 points a game.
It's his natural inclination to run the fucking orchestra.
And you know what?
He has his guys
that he can let,
you know, do solos.
Kawhi can solo.
Pascal can solo.
But he is there
running the orchestra.
I'm going to get some layups.
He was making
some phenomenal fucking passes.
That's it.
Dude, get into the basket.
And look, look,
every once in a while
he'll get a bully layup
when you need to.
Every once in a while
he'll hit a three.
He'll hit back-breaking shots
when he needs to. But his natural function while, he'll hit a three. He'll hit back-breaking shots when he needs to,
but his natural function is just conduct the orchestra.
I could see Kyle, no bullshit,
I could see Kyle on a team
where he scores four points a game,
and he is, he scores four points a game,
but he is necessary for the team to function.
Do you know what I mean? Andre Guadalla. Yeah, yeah, a little different. he scores four points a game, but he is necessary for the team to function. He's,
he's,
do you know what I mean?
Andre Iguodala.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little different.
Andre doesn't run the team.
The thing I was trying to bring up that he does,
that those guys do,
those Iguodalas,
Bowens,
whatever,
he'll take the charges.
He'll run,
he'll give effort plays.
Like he's a conductor and gives you the effort plays on a role play.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
He,
you get a lot with him in that regard for sure,
because he is going to be
scrappy. He's going to get a couple steals a game.
He is going to do that.
He kind of reminds me of a super...
I might be overrating him a little bit.
He reminds me of Dallas Jason Kidd.
Not like superstar,
triple-double like that dude, but
when he was in Dallas in the later
prime, later years...
He makes winning plays. That's what winning plays. He makes winning plays.
That's what it is.
He makes winning plays.
He could go off a little bit here and there.
He's capable at three now where he wasn't in the beginning of his career.
Right.
Definitely on the later side of his career, Jason Kidd.
Even when he was on the Knicks, when that one good team that they had.
I think he's a lot better than Jay Kidd.
I understand later in his career.
But I understand what you're trying to say.
He's doing the intangibles and he's running the show.
Yeah.
And I think he's better running the show.
What I meant by scoring four points a game is I don't think that his scoring is where he's an asset.
And in the playoffs, it's so crazy how you see how game IQ matters.
During the regular season, game IQ means nothing, right?
There's a guy on the Raptors, Norman Powell, right?
And you could just see he has no game IQ.
Right.
When he's out there, he's just driving recklessly to the basket.
Energy guy.
Tons of energy.
His athleticism is off the charts.
He's got balls.
He'll take a big shot, and he'll get those shots sometimes,
and it'll really help the team.
But he'll also make stupid plays and potentially turn it over.
Gerald Green, right?
Yeah.
A guy like Kyle and a guy like Van Fleet Yeah Elite
Game IQ
Never made bad decision
Right
Think about Van Fleet
They play winning basketball
Van Fleet has been playing
Winning basketball
Since college
Since college
Wichita State
Yeah
Okay
Final four
Right
That's right
So it's like
Those kind of guys
In the playoffs
Are such fucking assets
Like if you look at a guy like
Kawhi
Remember game five When he passes that ball off When he got double teamed Yeah in the playoffs are such fucking assets. Like, if you look at a guy like Kawhi,
remember game five when he passes that ball off when he got double teamed?
Yeah.
That's winning basketball.
Yeah.
They got a good look,
but that's winning basketball.
And Trey Mellon just made a great defensive play.
A guy like Norm might not make that play.
He might force something.
He might fuck something up.
And it's really interesting
when you're putting together a team about tapping into like that's a real skill set right there for like gms and like
presidents and even coaches is tapping into players that can make the right play in crucial
moments when you're your most anxious and you're most nervous and i do believe kyle can do that
this kind of segues into i I guess, our next topic soon.
Or maybe, I don't know, whatever.
That's why I don't think Kawhi goes to the Lakers.
I think the Lakers need those type of players.
Like, if there's anything that these finals have taught me,
or the past couple finals taught me, like,
stars get you there, you need depth.
I think thinking is he's going to the Clippers anyway.
I don't know why, if you're Kawhi, you'd want to go be number two to LeBron. Well, today was talking.
There was a lot of talk.
Damon Jones was on Get Up today saying Kawhi's, you know, the Lakers have focused on trying to get him.
There's some, like, fucking weird trade provision.
Like, if it completes by July 6th, they get some more money and some other bullshit.
Listen, I've been doubting the Lakers, and I'm clearly wrong a lot about the Lakers.
But I'm thinking if I'm Kawhi, I'd be like, I shut this guy down.
Your best player that's still going to be your alpha.
I shut him down when I wasn't this good in the finals.
The guy hates playing me.
If you're LeBron James, do you go up to Kawhi and be like, it's your team.
You're the keys.
Does that get him there?
Maybe, but I don't know if that's in LeBron's DNA.
Look, look.
You know it's not his.
You know it's not?
Exactly.
Let me tell you something.
Nobody has been more right about LeBron James than Phil Jackson.
Okay.
Phil said LeBron's a diva, right?
Was it a diva?
Was that the comment?
No, his posse.
He has his whole posse.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And people didn't understand what that really meant.
First of all, Phil Jackson's a thousand years old.
A posse to him is like a bunch of white guys on fucking horseback.
They're like, no, that's if he was 75.
He's talking about westerns.
Oh, okay.
Got you.
You know what I mean?
The blah, blah, blah and the Jackson posse is coming through and they're going to rile
up the town, whatever, right?
blah and the Jackson posse is coming through and they're going to rile up the town.
Right.
But what you deal with when you when you're on team with LeBron is you deal with two caravans of people coming backstage before every single game.
LeBron's making all the decisions about where the team's going out to eat, all that stuff.
And it's OK because he goes to the finals every year.
It's fine.
But if you're trying to create a team based on your culture impossible with with uh lebron on
the team if lebron is on a team it is lebron's culture so if you're a president or gm and you
want to bring in a culture that you think leads to winning that's different than lebron can't have
it and to me kawaii strikes me as the guy who is high culture.
If there's one thing he took from pop,
it is winning fucking culture.
We didn't know he had a personality
until after he won.
Now, all of a sudden, he's like this gregarious
kind of funny guy, right?
He's a funny guy.
He wouldn't even slap hands with Norman Powell
before the game.
You know how LeBron goes zero dark 30?
Kawhi goes zero dark autism
until he gets to the finals and wins it. He goes zero dark 30 Kawhi goes zero dark autism until he gets
until he gets
to the finals
and wins it
he goes zero dark 82
dude he went
zero dark 82
for like five seasons
yeah
we haven't seen
personality
zero dark 410
real talk
we haven't seen
personality
since the last time
they won
yeah
facts facts
bro
look at him right now
he's fucking
the video of him
and Kyle Lowry
Talking
Oh right
With Rachel Nichols
Where he's like
Yo it's your trophy
As much as it is mine
He talked about
The text message
He sent Kyle Lowry
The day after the trade
Like look man
I know you're mad
Look at the one
With him and Serge
In the car
If there's anything
That convinces me
That he's staying
It's those videos
Serge got a video
Of him and Kawhi
In the back of the car
And he goes
I'm here with the fun guy
And he says something like,
yay, yay?
There's some kind of, like, hip-hop reference.
It's like, whoa!
It looked like he was rolling something up.
No, it didn't.
Real talk.
He was focused, man.
He was ready to go.
In town smoking legal, like Drake says, bro.
I was like, that's definitely not a cigar, Kawhi.
I respect that.
I would not be surprised if he ends up staying because
let's be honest. West is
depleted. East is
dysfunctional. He already
went through the East. Yeah, he went through
all the monsters of the East. The West ain't
what it is, what it used to be because KD's
out. Klay's out. Houston's
about to blow up. You need credit
also for LeBron
easting the West or whatever,
seeing that the West was going to topple.
West does not look strong anymore.
I mean,
I wouldn't get that crazy.
It ain't the East.
I'm more scared of the East.
It ain't the East.
Balance of power has shifted.
And he went through with East.
So it's like,
if I'm Kawhi
and all I care about
is winning chips
because that's all he cares about.
And I know that
I have a young core in Toronto that's intact still.
I mean, Kyle's not young, but you need some veteran.
They can pay him.
No, I mean, do they have money to get other pieces around them?
But my feeling is, who do you need if you did it with this team and you can keep this whole team?
People are going to retool.
You got to be able to.
So here's where they're set up for the future.
Kyle Lowry's contract comes off the books at the end of next year. I think Marc for the future. Kyle Lowry's contract comes off the books at the end of next year.
Yeah.
I think Marc Gasol also has a pretty big contract that comes off the books.
He does.
Yeah.
So you're going to have cap space next year.
You bring back your championship team.
You make a run.
You add a piece here and there.
You make your run.
And if you don't do what you want to do, these guys are free.
And you got cap space with one of the best players in the league.
And guess where.
In a city everyone loves playing in.
Guess where free agents want to be now because of Drake.
Guess where free agents want to be now because of a championship.
Now that you've been celebrated.
Real talk.
So it's like you could play, if you're a free agent,
you could get max money to play with Giannis in Milwaukee
or literally an hour away in Toronto.
You know what I'm saying?
Like Milwaukee is not
a desired location.
No.
You're gonna make more money
in like,
what,
ads and shit,
sponsorship,
whatever that fucking thing
is called.
What is it called
where you're the spokesperson?
Sponsorships.
Sponsorships in Toronto
than you are in Milwaukee.
I mean,
Toronto's a major market city.
Toronto will throw everything at you.
Yeah, like,
Toronto's a major-
They will throw everything at you.
You're all they got.
I'd be shocked if he left. Shock got. I'd be shocked if he left.
Shocked.
I'd be shocked if he left too.
And if you're Toronto, you can't be pissed.
Because you did exactly what he said.
They don't give a fuck.
You say thank you.
We appreciate what you did for us.
We appreciate what you did for our city.
And you keep it moving.
And you know what?
Toronto will be back even if they do lose them.
They'll be back.
Like you said, they get a bunch of cap space.
They've already shown how they treat star players.
Sandy for an office.
I mean, Maggi Uri might be leaving to D.C.
Masai might be heading to D.C.
So we can talk about that real quick.
Oh, yeah.
Let's talk about what happened at the end of the Warriors game.
So Toronto Raptors win.
Masai Ujiri is the president of Toronto Raptors.
He's trying to go onto the floor.
Security guard stops him from going onto the floor.
He allegedly either slaps or punches the security guard
and then pushes him.
And the security guard is a deputy.
He's a police deputy.
Love it.
Okay.
And then later Kyle tells him to come on the
floor then they bring him on the floor and um so far nothing has happened he flew directly back to
toronto and um it's a clear case of white privilege i mean it's a clear case oh a few
games ago black games ago we got the one of the minority owners of the Warriors literally shoving Kyle Lowry.
And it's like, now the shoe's on the other foot.
You better not do nothing about that shit.
Like, what the fuck?
Well, no, that owner is suspended for a year.
Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Are we suspending Masai for a year?
Because Masai punched a cop.
Well, the Oakland police said he couldn't get on the court
because he didn't have a credential.
All the video evidence has literally shown the credential on his hand
trying to get on the court.
Sure, sure.
That being said, I think it's somewhat...
You have to somewhat sympathize with the cop, right?
Which is...
I don't.
I do because your one job that night is stop people from coming onto the court.
You know at the end of the game, there are going to be people that are trying to come onto the court.
And everybody and their cousin and their sister is going to want to hug their players.
You're also supposed to regulate that.
And by regulating that, you look at people who have credentials.
You see people of interest who should be on the court.
It's not a lineup, though.
It's not a lineup.
It is the one place where profiling seems like it should go the other way.
If I see a black guy walking on a basketball court, you probably belong here.
If I see a white guy,
let me see some credentials, because I don't know how you got here.
So here's a perfect example of him
not profiling. It's like, this guy's not a bigot.
This guy's actually treating everybody
equal. What, 6'5 black guy? You don't
know anybody. I'm not
saying he's a...
It's his literal job to not... What I'm saying is
Messiah's a fucking idiot for doing that.
You just won the fucking championship.
This is what you do.
You step back.
You go, here is my badge.
I am the president.
And if he doesn't do it, then you go, okay, I'll speak to someone else.
I'll make it happen.
You just won.
You couldn't even celebrate with your team.
You had to get sent back to Canada because there's no extraditing people who break the law from Canada.
Well, no.
He got sent back because his daughter's graduation.
You believe that?
Bro, he took a picture.
He was there the next day.
He was there the next day with his daughter like, yo, crazy 24 hours for the president of the Raptors.
You are crazy, bro.
Come on.
How do you do that?
You are the president of a billion-dollar franchise.
You have to be more responsible in that situation.
Masai be getting hype.
Remember when he cussed in the mic at the little pep rally?
My kind of guy, bro.
My kind of guy, bro.
Fuck the Knicks or something.
He was screaming something like that.
Yeah, he said, fuck the Knicks.
I think they were playing in the playoffs.
Masai be getting hype.
Yeah, I fuck with him.
I like it. Slap a little cop here and there. He's on the chip. I'd be getting hype. Hey, I fuck with him. I like it.
Slap a little cop here and there.
He's on the chip.
What are they really going to do?
Any security, any event you've been to,
security has a list of people.
People of interest.
They'll have pictures next to them,
and they'll have the picture of the credential.
Don't let anybody in this court that isn't this guy
or have this credential.
And if you're doing your job, you should know,
hey, this is the president
of the team. I'm going to remember that next time we pull up
to Duce Palooza. You should! And I'm going to just walk
in. I'm going to just walk in. You already
did that! I got stopped, you walked in!
And I'm going to see, no I didn't,
they came and got us. But I'm going to see, I'm going to just
flash my, and then I'm going to walk past
the security guard, and when the security guard
pushes me back, I'm going to punch him in the face, and then I'm
going to see how that works out.
I'm going to see if Ducey goes, oh, we apologize.
We should have been able to profile your face.
Because it's not your party.
They clearly have the right to punch you in the face.
It ain't.
Masai's party.
Masai's a guest.
It kind of turned into his party.
He's a guest.
He's a guest.
If he was at home, he walks right into that court.
He ain't at home.
I don't know, bro.
Yo, son, what does the president of the Utah Jazz look like?
I think, who knows?
Exactly!
But I think if some shit's going down.
Nobody knows what these people look like.
If some shit's going down, Adam Silver's going to be like, hey, we kind of need that guy,
security guy or sheriff.
Leave him alone and just bring him on the fucking stage.
That's what I'm saying.
If he waited two seconds.
We know what Masai looks like, though, because Masai gets a lot of credit.
Masai in the news.
Yeah.
Masai also one of the few black team presidents out there.
You know what Masai looks like?
Not at all. Ed, and you know what Masai looks like? Not at all.
You know what Masai looks like? Not at all. Nobody knows
what he looks like. Let's be honest.
If I'm a sheriff and I'm supposed to
secure the area. If Masai wasn't from Nigeria you'd have no
fucking clue. No but if I'm securing
the area and
I'm like hey this is the president
of the Raptors you should probably know who this guy is
or where they're sitting. Yes
that's something you should know. Sheriff?
No?
And he had the credential on his hand.
Well, I haven't seen him
show the credential.
There's a video of him. No, no, there's a picture.
I know the one. All I'm saying is
you're the head of a billion dollar franchise.
You have to be more responsible.
You cannot act like that.
We have to hold everybody accountable. It's easy for us to be more responsible you cannot use you cannot act like that you can't we have to we
have to hold everybody accountable it's easy for us to be on a podcast and be like yo that's what's
up man i want to see him snuff a cop this that the other this isn't this isn't small potatoes here
this is a billion dollar franchise it's a different game i would not be surprised if that hurt him
and his chance if he gets arrested which he very well could be if he doesn't get arrested this is
a clear case of hey if you got money got money, nothing affects you in America.
No matter what you look like.
And you won.
And you won, right?
But you beat the team that those deputies root for.
Yeah.
So they're going to want to arrest you.
You know what I mean?
Let's be honest.
But you're making people money.
Yeah.
You make money and you're making people money.
If you make important people money, hey, man, do it.
It's no different than a sales job.
My first day job was Verizon Wireless.
The best salesperson would just go to get drunk at lunch, come back to work.
Nobody said shit.
He made them money.
If Masai makes you money, I'll take care of you.
Yeah.
Also, we don't have to even talk about him making them money.
Masai is a multimillionaire.
We're talking about a guy who gets paid millions of dollars.
This guy is elite.
Top 1%.
Rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, rich, rich.
You know what I mean?
So it's like, and when you're that rich, you get to punch cops.
Regardless if you're white, black, Asian, Indian, you get to punch a cop in the face and then fly home.
Well, you should provide proper context,
like you just won NBA championship,
you're going on the court,
and the reason why you punch the cop
is because you're preventing him from going on the court,
which is within his right to be at.
First of all, a cop could tell you,
hey, we can't let anybody on the court right now
because we're securing the situation,
and a lot of people are trying to rush the court,
so we don't care if you have a credential or not,
we just need to secure the situation and protect
the players. That's our job to protect the players.
You give the cops a lot of
slack. A whole lot of slack.
They should know the people of interest
that would be like, okay, that's
Norman Powell. How often
are we going to a party?
How often are we going to a party where
they're like, hey, I know you're on the list.
I know who you are. I know you have a credential.
Right?
I just went to when I was at the Raptors.
Right?
I was at the Raptors game five.
Drake's got a club inside the Raptors thing.
I'm on the list to go to this club.
I walk up.
They're like, hey, we're not letting anybody else in.
I go, I'm on the list to be here.
I have me plus three.
They're like, we understand that, but we're not letting anybody in off the list because
it's too packed in there.
plus three. They're like, we understand that,
but we're not letting anybody in off the list because it's too packed in there.
Maybe it's completely
reasonable to just go, hey guys, we're not
letting anybody on the floor right now until we can organize
the floor, secure the floor for the players.
It's our job to secure the floor for the players.
Everybody's trying to rush. Everybody's mom,
everybody's cousins, everybody's kids trying to rush.
Nobody's getting on. Give us a second.
That is completely reasonable
to wait a second. It also didn't look like that was the type of conversation that was going on.
But none of us saw the conversation because-
You're right.
I don't know the conversation.
You know what's crazy?
Is it when-
Do we have the video?
No, we don't.
They don't have a video.
There is a video.
Not full.
There's a video.
Show me the video.
Pull that video up.
There's a video.
I'm seeing the video.
Pull that up.
The conversation didn't look like, hey guys, we're going to just keep hanging out there.
I didn't say it was like that.
It could be like, no, nobody's in.
But the reason, like you said, intent matters or context matters.
The reason is because, hey, we have to protect these players.
And everybody can't just run onto the floor.
We don't care if you have credential.
Absolutely.
But they also put out a statement saying he didn't have a credential.
No, no, he had a credential.
Of course.
That's the reason why people are pissed off like they the
oakland police put out a statement saying like well he tried to get on the court he didn't have
a credential and like everybody on twitter was like here he is clearly they didn't have a
credential the story the cop says he didn't have a credential he refused to something uh produce
on whatever and then if there's video evidence that's what i want to see but uh i haven't seen
i don't want to spend 20 minutes on it
because I even think what's more interesting
is what does he do next year?
Let's assume he beats this.
Does he go to the Wizards?
Yeah.
He's from D.C., right?
Is that why they gave him the big holy shit contract?
He's from Africa, son.
Clearly.
But I'm saying, is that where he's from?
My man don't sound like he's not from Africa.
You know what I mean?
He sounds like an immigrant.
He was holding out the Nigerian flag
over his fucking suit, which was dope. Does he go to dc i think dc fuck no i think it'd be smart if they
and they're probably give them a bag give them something they're giving him ownership
ownership share yeah which is out what they're offering that's what i was reported that's what
i read which i doubt it's even one percent but if it's a percentage of ownership that's worth a shit load
and that's money that's constantly
appreciating
and
furthermore
you
now I'm curious about the ownership share
if he gets that in perpetuity
or he only has that while he's
president of the team
which is possible.
But either way, you're making money as you're doing it.
What I would do with it, I see no reason why not to do it, right?
It's like you've already climbed the highest mountain.
Beating the Golden State Warriors, regardless if they were depleted or not, that was the
best team in basketball, right?
There's no other team to beat.
There's no other dragon to slay.
You've already accomplished it.
It's a soul stone.
You've got the soul stone.
So now you have the opportunity to go to a team
that's going to be complete rebuild.
It's going to be a complete shit show.
I mean, very little expectations.
You'll be afforded time to make it right.
And you will.
100% be afforded time to make it right. And you will be afforded time to make it,
uh,
make it right.
And the NBA is in flux.
So you might be able to grab some guys out of nowhere.
Um,
that being said,
you're doing that strictly for monetary gain.
Yeah.
You're,
you've already had the challenge of taking a team that was dog shit and
winning an NBA championship.
You've done it.
So now you're doing this strictly for money.
Yeah. And i cannot hate
on anybody who wants to set their family up their fucking and if they've already accomplished what
they need to accomplish in terms of like this is what i this is my goal i accomplished my goal
now i'm just gonna go get money all right cool you do what the fuck you set out to do yep if you
sell out and like you haven't really won anything you're like look i was trying to build something
but the money is here i still get it but especially if
you're like look I came here I got you what you
wanted I got what I wanted let's go right
on top of that I want to see this video can we get
it on the TV
on top of that
he's shown that he can fleece people
and the Wizards got Bradley Beal on the table
oh so Messiah's
shrewd he can fleece some teams
with that all star player shrewd businessman shrewd owner can fleece some teams With that all star player
Shrewd
Businessman
Shrewd owner
Fleece the fucking heads
Nigerian dog
Of course he's gonna get
He's gonna cheat everybody
This guy told me that there's two
Tribes in Nigeria
Right
Ebo and Yoruba
Ebo and Yoruba
He says one is all about business
And the other is all about like studies
Yes
Which one is
Ebo
Is
Oh no no Take off the see there is no video
this is after the transaction
so just pause for a second
so pause for a second
so now
if you don't think that this is by design
then you're crazy
when a guy in the fan said something to
oh here we go
let's see if we got it.
Kyle Lowry had to pull him out.
Kyle Lowry's the classiest guy in this entire finals.
Yo, is there anybody whose stock has risen more than Kyle Lowry this season?
So here's the thing.
We have a stadium, right?
Which probably has, I don't know, a thousand different cameras going at any point in time.
We have anybody in the stands says anything to a player.
All of a sudden, we have a single cam on
them, zoomed in. We're reading their mouths.
And we can't find one video
of what happened. This is also
doing Google, so it's quite possible
there's a thousand videos out there.
There's also a whole championship celebration
happening on the court. Let's just back up for a second.
I told you I looked for the video.
I didn't see it at all.
This video would be all over Twitter.
It'd be all over Instagram.
When somebody gets knocked out in a boxing match,
there's 15 different angles, 15 different videos.
The only video we have is after the scrum.
There's no evidence of said scrum, nothing.
Now, I think we know what this is.
Adam Silver, hey, don't let any fucking videos go out.
Why not? Because it's bad for the league. It's going to look bad for basketball. So what we're going to do is we're going to protect this guy who fucked up because he's great for basketball. The last thing thing we need is first black president in the NBA finals for his team to be punching a policeman after
the win. The last thing
the NBA needs is that. So we're going to call
Golden State Warriors. We're going to call
Golden State Police Department. We're going to call everybody
we have to do. We're going to massage this shit because
it's better for business. I don't believe that. Fair enough.
I don't believe that because I'm like, first off,
that makes me think there just was no punch
or there was no shove. Why is that?
There might have been a yelling match. I don't think there was a punch
or a scrub. Charles Oakley
fucking choked somebody in the Madison
Square Garden and there was videos of that shit
everywhere. Charles Oakley doesn't make anybody money.
It's the Knicks.
The Knicks make the most money out of
as shitty as they are. Charles Oakley got banned
from the Knicks and you need a reason why. You could get Charles
out of here. And Charles choking someone is par for the course, right?
Charles not choking someone would be more surprising.
But Charles choking someone who was annoying to him?
Damn right, Charles.
I mean, the more I think about it, the more I think, I don't think there was no punch.
If the cops are saying, oh, this guy put hands on me, then I absolutely don't believe that happened.
You think there was no punch, period?
I don't think there was a punch.
There might have been a fucking, you know when people want to fight, but they don't really want to fight?
Yeah, a mush, a little, what are those?
And then mad people get in the way.
You think a bicep shove.
And then mad people get out of the way.
It's the hold me back, hold me back.
I think that was probably that.
But a full on punch and nobody got the video?
Pretend Black Twitter isn't listening to this.
Now tell us what you think.
If somebody gets punched in an arena, video is coming out.
Listen, I'm on record as saying I don't give a fuck if he punched a cop.
That cop doesn't look like he got punched.
Dude, if he got punched, cops is coming out.
Fuck all the dumb shit.
That's why they're chasing him and the guy was in between going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
His friend is in between the cops and Masai begging them to stop because it happened.
I'm on record as saying if he punched a cop,
that's great.
That's great.
If he punched a cop,
everyone would have saw it.
No better way to celebrate
than punching a cop
if you're a black dude.
If he punched a cop,
everybody would have saw it.
If I could get away,
if I'm a black dude
not getting together
with punching a cop
and winning a championship,
there's no better night.
Fuck my daughter's graduation.
This is the greatest night
of my life.
Can we acknowledge that?
But saying he didn't happen,
that's wild.
I don't think it happened.
I think what this is testing-
Thousands of people in there.
They can't get everyone's video tonight.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
But this is testament to Canada creating a post-racial society, because if you have a
black man confident enough to punch a cop in the face, Canada must be doing something
right, because there is no way in hell a black man in America would look at a cop who said you can't get in
and just go, I should punch you in your face for saying that to me.
There'll be no repercussions.
Not at all.
We have two black men in the room right now.
Would you punch a cop in the face?
Hell fucking no.
Of course not, because I don't think it happens.
Because you don't live in Canada.
That's why.
Fuck Canada, bro.
Canada, there is no race.
Fuck Canada.
Canada, everyone is Drake
They're in Oakland
That's where Rodney King shit happened
Right?
Fuck all that shit
They ain't punching
I don't think nobody got punched
I think it was a fuck
I think somebody
You're wild
I'm wild?
You don't believe OJ killed Nicole
You believe
You don't believe
Messiah pushed
I didn't say all that about OJ
Second of all
You said allegedly
Because
You be throwing out allegedly
Against the court of law,
he beat the case,
so that's what you gotta say.
But anyway.
So did the cops in Oakland.
Bruh.
You really believe the cops.
You gonna bring up Rodney King?
I'm just saying.
You really believe the cops.
They literally just said,
oh, he didn't have a credential.
We all just saw the credential.
I'm just saying they beat the trial.
We have to say allegedly.
Keep that same energy.
Listen, I don't believe cops
as much as y'all do.
You see, I'm not keeping,
all I'm saying is you're not
keeping the same energy. Bruh. I'm not saying what I believe. I don't really believe anything much as y'all do. You see, all I'm saying is you're not keeping the same energy.
Bruh.
I'm not saying what I believe.
I don't really believe anything.
The energy's been kept.
I just disagree with whatever everybody else believes.
The energy's been kept.
Is this reparations for Rodney King?
It's the NBA finals.
Is that what this is?
There's a whole celebration happening on the basketball court.
Cops beat Rodney.
Messiah beats cops.
It's payback.
I don't believe that shit, bro.
I'm just saying Rodney King didn't get beaten.
He got allegedly beaten.
If that cop got punched
by that rich motherfucker,
do you think he would sit there
on his fucking ass
and not sue the fuck...
They wouldn't call that shit
the Oakland State Raptors
after that shit?
Are you kidding me?
They'd sue the fucking pants
over that motherfucker
before they even got back to Toronto.
Oakland State Raptors.
Dude, he could...
I don't know.
Whatever the fuck.
It's not a state.
You know what the fuck I meant.
God damn it.
I just don't think he got punched. He didn't look like he got punched if he did get punched. I don't know. It's not a state. You know what the fuck I meant. God damn it. I just don't think he got punched.
He didn't look like he got punched. If he did
get punched, he'd sue the fuck out of that dude.
Why can't we look at this as a major
moment in civil rights history?
I'm saying that's how I'm looking at it.
Why can't we look at true equality
here? Black people punching
cops and no
punishment
whatsoever?
I need proof.
This is magnificent.
I need proof.
Real talk.
This is an accomplishment.
This is what Martin was talking about.
This is what Malcolm was talking about. What did Malcolm say?
You put your hand on me.
I put my hand on you or something?
Put your hand in your pocket.
Something about pockets.
I don't know.
Listen, the point is he had an important thing about putting your hand in someone's pockets. The point is this. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know listen the point is he had an important thing about putting your hand in someone's pockets
point is this i don't know malcolm x good guy so the point is i think messiah has really reached
a milestone achievement in the united states of america he is wealthy enough to punch a cop in
the face and not be punished because of it. We should all be so happy
that the United States as a country
has reached this
part of
our history.
Think about it. This is amazing.
What are you talking about?
And we got black people acting like
Trump supporters just looking the truth in the
face and denying it.
Trump supporters?
You all believe in cops on their word it. Trump supporters? Fake news. You over here believing cops
on their word when they literally just
you just show that they lied. But I don't
give a fuck. I'm glad he got snuffed.
But he didn't. If he got
you show me footage of this motherfucker.
There's 15,000 people
in there. Why don't you do a podcast with Mandy
if that's what we're gonna do?
Fuck outta here with that shit, dog.
Fuck outta here with that shit. You over here believing cops and calling me a to do. Fuck out of here with that shit, dog. Fuck out of here with that shit. You don't even believe in cops.
They're calling me a Trump supporter.
Fuck out of here, dog.
I support Mandy.
Fuck out of here.
Love you, Mandy.
Love you, boo-boo.
God damn.
Whatever, Mandy.
You all right?
Love you, boo-boo.
Shout out to Pegasus herself, man.
Real talk.
Shout out to her.
She working on Katie's Achilles right now.
I want to plug some dates.
Plug it.
Guys, thank you so much for coming out to all the shows,
watching the clips.
This is a Matador tour presented by Monster Energy and Outbreak.
This weekend, coming into Liberty Township.
That's the suburbs of Cincinnati.
So everybody in that area, come out to the Funny Bone.
Then the next weekend, we got Denver,
the Comedy Works downtown.
One of the best comedy clubs in the country, man.
Really great, great city.
Excited to do dropping in there.
We're gonna go check out this weed company, Hit Us Up.
So we can go check that shit out.
And then that's Sunday.
I'll be in Houston.
The first show sold out.
We're adding another show.
So by the time this is up, that show will be added.
So come on out to that.
And then, yeah, I'm going to be going to – let me think after that.
I think it's after that.
We got Toronto.
Yeah, Toronto, man.
Oh, I'm pulling up for that.
Absolutely.
You got to come through through first show sold out
second show we still got some tickets available
sell that shit out Toronto sell that shit
the fuck out sell both of them out so go to
go get those tickets right now and then
I got an announcement I'll be part of the
Just for Laughs comedy festival
so I'm excited about
this one man
I'm gonna be doing a live version
of Inside Jokes and that's a show you guys
could check out on my youtube hopefully you guys have all checked that out and a live version of
unsafe sets so it's cool to take two things that i you know uh that we created and to bring that
up there and to put them in part of the festival uh unsafe sets show is just going to be a bunch
of comics doing their most fucked up jokes so i'm gonna have them out there and um that's gonna be that's gonna be kind of crazy and i'm also gonna be doing the nasty show
out there so that was kind of cool because uh patrice o'neill you know my comedy um goat you
know the one of the reasons why i knew about him was from his performances on the nasty show so
i'm excited to do those and then then some international stuff coming up, man.
I'm going to be going to Russia to do the comedy festival in Russia.
That's going to be very exciting in September.
And then late September, I'm going out to Australia, man.
So that's going to happen.
Those tickets are available now.
Go to theandrewschultz.com for all those.
Tell Izzy to come through.
Say what?
Tell Izzy to come through.
Oh, hell yeah, man.
It would be sick to do something in New Zealand,
so I got to talk to Izzy about that shit as well.
But I appreciate you guys coming out to all the shows, man.
It's been amazing.
And watching all the clips that we've been posting.
We post a new stand-up clip every Sunday on the YouTube
and do the dropping in episodes.
All got new stand-up clips in every single one of them as well.
So go check those out if you haven't, man.
And yeah, you guys.
Yeah, man.
Shout out to everybody.
There's a shit ton of assholes that came out to Atlanta this past weekend for
Ducey Palooza.
Shout out to all of you there.
This weekend we'll be in Los Angeles for Ducey Palooza BET awards weekend,
June 22nd at the Belasco theater.
Uh,
it's going to be insane.
Um,
you know,
we haven't announced it yet officially,
but by the time this comes out,
we'll be able to tell you that Todd Dallason will be the headlining act.
It's going to be crazy. And July 5th,
New Orleans, Louisiana,
Essence Fest. It's going to be
a crazy time from 12... Yo, Andrew's going to be
hosting.
Andrew Schultz is hosting.
Maybe he can slide me in on the list.
I'll wait. I won't slap any cops if I'm not on the list.
I hear you, man.
Andrew's going be hosing
it's gonna be a beautiful thing
July 5th
July 5th
celebrate our nation's
independence
with Andrew Schultz
and Kaz
and Jose Paluzzo
you asshole
we got the House of Blues
in New Orleans
July 5th
so pull up to that
you need to get in
to Essence Fest
cause he could probably
yeah I know he got some pull
over there
so I might need a
backstage pass
Kaz and Vic show on Slam
make sure you check that out every week.
I'll be on SNY today.
Well, I guess yesterday, but I'll also be on there this Thursday on the thread every
week at 5 p.m. on SNY if you're in New York.
If you got Verizon, Spectrum, whatever the hell.
Check it out.
Check that out.
Talking lots of sports shit on there.
And yeah, I think that's it.
I think that's it.
Download the station head app.
That's about it, bro.
Yeah, for real.
Download that shit.
Okay, so let's get to...
Okay, we could talk about the KD.
Yeah, let's talk about the KD situation.
Hey, I have a real quick finals question.
Just a real quick hypothetical.
Draymond, when he calls that timeout
and they don't have any timeouts left,
that's a technical, right?
If there was a game seven,
would that be his seventh technical
and would he have been suspended for that game?
I don't know.
If anybody knows the answer to that.
That's a hell of a question.
I thought by some miracle they'd get this.
Isn't that his seventh technical?
I didn't know that you receive a tech for that.
That's the Chris Webber.
He pulled a Chris Webber.
That's why Kawhi shot that free throw.
I remember I said that.
Technically, would that go to the coach?
No, because he called the timeout.
Yeah, but I don't know
I don't know if it's
a team technical
or a personal technical
but it was
it was funny because
he called that timeout
I remember in that moment
I was like
them Michigan boys bro
they can't help themselves
the whole state
he was just paying homage bro
that's all he was doing
and Golden State
was in the blue and gold
like he looked like
he was in a Michigan.
Draymond Mitch State.
Oh, he was State?
Yeah.
But he's from Michigan.
Sang it all.
Anyway.
Okay, what were you saying though, Kaz?
So what happens with-
With KD.
What do you think he does?
I think KD-
I think we know what's going to happen with KD.
KD's going to sign with the Knicks.
And- I think we know what's going to happen with KD. KD's going to sign with the Knicks. And can we back up a second?
Let's back up a second.
Okay.
Because I got some, I think we're on the same wavelength with this show.
I want to talk about how the Franks and Beans Knicks are going to do exactly what I said they were going to do in free agency and fuck it up.
Okay? Fuck it up. Okay?
Fuck it up massively.
They lost out on Kyrie, thank God.
They're going to lose out on Kemba because the Lakers are doing a big,
strong push for Kemba.
They lost out on AD.
KD, they lose out on because even if they do sign him,
he's coming back from an Achilles.
All for a year.
And he's out for a year.
And who knows if he's even going to come back. And's coming back from an Achilles. All for a year. And he's out for a year. And who knows if he's even a KD.
Ever going to come back.
And I remember you saying an Achilles injury,
it literally changes the shape of the calf.
Yeah.
So you're never.
Never the same again.
Almost never the same.
Never the same again.
Now, was he a big leaper?
No.
He's bony, though.
What's more to change?
He doesn't have massive calves like that.
He never had big calves.
Sure.
But at the same point in time, it's going to change the way that you play the game.
Does he have a game that can come back from it?
Sure, but it's going to change the way you play the game.
And this would happen to the Knicks.
And the Knicks, what they constantly do is they forget that they are not –
they're a big market team with little market interest.
And they're like the hot chick that got fat and
she's walking around not realizing she
got fat because her tits are still big
right so she getting attention for her tits
but she don't realize
real talk the Knicks are Snooki right
you're a fat fucking girl Knicks
Knicks are fat fucking girl
you look hot like looking at your own tits
I'm still hot
you get attention from a fucking delivery boy.
You get attention from some fucking people building on a building site, but you are not
getting attention from the majors, but they don't realize that.
So they do not plan for the mid-level guys.
They're like, we're going to go after AD.
We're going to go after KD.
We're going to go after Kyrie.
You don't have the clout to get any of them.
Knicks, you are a piece of shit organization run by idiots.
Nobody wants to play for you.
So what you have to do is get what's left.
That's the best you could do is get what's left.
And your entire free agency strategy should be put towards getting what's left.
I think we might miss out on Chris Middleton.
I think there was a chance.
I was like, worst case scenario.
He's restricted, isn't he?
But he might...
He might opt out and be unrestricted.
Yes.
Okay.
So I think the worst case scenario I was saying before
was Chris Middleton, Tobias Harris.
I don't even know if we'll get Chris Middleton.
I truly don't believe...
We might get Tobias Harris and fucking whoever.
I don't know. Honestly? If you sign KD, you don't want we might get Tobias Harris and fucking whoever. I don't know.
Honestly.
If you sign KD, you don't want Chris Middleton.
You tank for one more year with KD on ice.
You try to get another lottery pick.
Then you have, what's the guy that you think is going to be so good?
R.J. Barrett.
R.J. Barrett in his second year when KD comes back.
You have another lottery pick, hopefully a high one, ready to develop.
You sign KD, you put him on ice, you keep the tank-a-thon going.
If you sign KD, do not fuck it up and sign Chris Middleton.
Anybody who will get you wins, no.
Keep your salaries clear and tank one more year.
I got sources and I got scoops.
All right, go.
All right.
Just like I told you, the AD trade was happening this weekend, and it did.
KD is going to the Knicks.
Kyrie is going to the Nets.
KD's camp is trying to convince Kyrie to come to the Knicks.
Kyrie is trying to convince KD to come to the Knicks, to the Nets.
The hang-up there was one, the injury.
If he didn't get injured, he'd have a better shot of convincing Kyrie to change his mind or whatever.
He bought a spot in Dumbo, had a spot in the Upper East Side.
Now, like, he's here.
He's basically picking between the two.
Secondly, the D'Angelo Russell thing.
The one thing that ever since, you know, news has gotten out that, like, oh, I guess through D'Angelo Russell's camp,
he pretty much leaked to the media through his people, like, hey, hey like we signed kairi like i understand you know and people are in around kairi's camp are kind of wondering
do we want another fucking weird pr thing that you just left with the celtics like they got this fun
brooklyn team led by this fun point guard we thought he's gonna play together like that was
kairi's plan like all right well we'll we'll make it work together. D'Angelo Russell's camp is like, nah.
Like, if y'all bringing him here, like, this is a one-point guarantee.
Kyrie don't make it work.
Kyrie ain't going to make it work.
That's what D'Angelo's thinking.
So now, if KD's healthy, all right, Kyrie, we'll go to the Knicks.
We'll make it work.
Now, does Kyrie want to waste a year with the Knicks and bumming it
and KD's not going to be available for another year?
So that's the whole hang-up with everybody right now.
KD wants to be in New York.
That's his plan.
Kyrie wants to be in the Nets, but now his team is like,
we don't know if he wants to go through the same bullshit he just went through
with Boston.
That's the only thing going on.
So what do we think is going to happen?
I think they get a stalemate.
I think Kyrie still goes to Brooklyn.
I think KD goes to the Knicks.
Where does D'Angelo go?
I've heard two locations.
Well, three locations now.
Utah, Phoenix, and Indiana.
I would be interested in Utah and Indiana. Utah, and I'm interested in Phoenix, Indiana. I would be interested in Utah and Indiana.
Utah and – I'm interested in Phoenix, actually.
No, no.
Phoenix is too much already.
D'Angelo, Devin Booker, DeAndre Ayton, Kelly Oubre Jr.
That's a nice little young core.
Yeah, but you can't do D'Angelo and –
Booker?
Booker.
They're homies.
They're really close.
They can't play together.
It's a similar style, it seems like.
It's just too many guys taking bad shots.
Pacers do interest me, too.
If Oladipo comes back.
But Oladipo needs the rock in order to be effective.
No, he could be a really good two guard.
Because when he was, I'm not saying he can't play good two,
but he needs the ball in his hands.
D'Angelo needs the ball in his hands.
Without the ball in his hands, he can't help his team.
So he's not going to be just a spot-up shooter.
He needs to be able to create. I agree. So I think if you believe in a guy like him, he can't help his team. Right. Right? So he's not going to be just a spot-up shooter. Right. He needs to be able to create.
I agree.
So I think if you believe in a guy like him, he's like shitty Kemba.
So if you believe in a guy like him, you've got to build around him.
And you've got to get guys who need someone who can create and then dish and then hit.
I put shooters around him.
Mm-hmm.
That's what I mean.
The Nets were doing pretty well.
Yeah.
I would have rocked that boat with someone like Kyrie.
That's my thing. I would never rock
that boat. That's my thing. If I'm Brooklyn, do I
really want Kyrie? If you're going after Kyrie,
you're basically saying
I just want to steal headlines from the Knicks
and we're just going after marquee names because
we want to be the team in New York City.
You know how you beat the team in New York City? When? Make the playoffs.
Win games, bro. It's that easy.
New York, we are
desperate for a winner. You know how quickly Knicks fans will shift our focus to the Nets?
Oh, listen.
You know how quickly that will happen if the Nets actually win?
And you know what?
They deserve it.
That's because I'm a Knicks fan.
They fucking deserve it.
Don't mean I ain't going to Brooklyn Nets playoff games.
Oh, be honest.
Facts.
I'm in that bitch.
And you know what?
We right there.
The subway's right there.
Everything is convenient.
It is convenient to become a Nets fan. It is convenient to become a Nets fan. It is convenient
to become a Nets fan.
And all they gotta do is start winning,
and all the Knicks gotta do is keep disrespecting
us, keep spitting on our face,
keep not doing anything to
become a winning team, keep
rehiring the same dumbasses that
make the fucked up Franks and Beans decisions
that got us here in the first place. I think they're making good decisions, bro.
What? I think they're making good decisions.
Name one. They cleared the cap.
They cleared the cap.
They got a pretty good pick.
They've been drafted well. They drafted well last year.
They got some really good second round and undrafted guys.
Like, they have basketball minds there.
They don't have, like, old fucking yesteryear
guys like, what's the guy, like Donnie Walsh
and fucking the guy from the
Pacers and all these other dudes.
They got some young dudes in there that are player friendly.
People love Fizz.
People love...
What's the other dude's name?
I love Wins.
I do too.
I want to win.
I do too.
And the Knicks can't do that.
The Knicks sucked last year.
They did suck.
Say whatever you want about Fizz, but he can't take a bunch of guys and make them win.
We'll see.
That's what I'm saying.
In fairness to Fizz, who I think is a little overrated,
but in fairness to him,
they wanted him to lose last year.
That was the active goal.
And I think they should do it again next year.
And I agree with you on that.
There's an argument to be made about it.
But our patience is running thin.
As a Knicks fan,
our patience is running thin.
And you have a hot new sexy team
that's in Brooklyn.
And wait for it.
Wait for it.
You have a hot new sexy team
that's in Brooklyn, right?
And the city of New York, Manhattan, has already priced out all of its residents.
That's what I was going to say.
It's barely affordable for us to live here.
You disrespect us with these high rents.
You disrespect us with these high prices.
You disrespect us with these high ticket prices.
Everything about going to a Knicks game is disrespectful.
So you're not even going to play the starters, right?
You're going to lose on purpose.
You're going to charge me just as much for the ticket.
You're going to overcharge me like crazy on any food, anything like that.
There's no fucking parking, nothing around there.
And if it is, it's $40, $50.
Fuck you.
None of this has to do with basketball.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Oh, don't even get me into basketball.
That's the most disrespectfulrespectful part of it
Listen I
The most
So the Nets
Come over here
And start cooking
You think for a second
I'm not gonna look over there
It's like your girl
Not giving you no pussy
And then some fine pussy
Right across the river
Over there
Is asking to suck your dick
I'm getting my dick sucked
I don't care if it's by
D'Angelo
Kyrie
Whoever's sucking
Levert
Whoever's sucking dick
Over there I'm coming over To get it sucked So you better step it up Dolan by D'Angelo, Kyrie, whoever's sucking Lavert, whoever's sucking dick over there,
I'm coming over to get a suck.
So you better step it up, Dolan.
Dolan got the balls to walk into the garden
with four model bitches living his best life
while the rest of us starving out here.
And a guy goes, you suck as owner
and then gets booted for life?
You suck as owner.
You suck as owner and then gets booted for life? You suck as owner! You suck as owner!
I honestly think
the guy that, I honestly think the Knicks
are doing what they're supposed to do.
Lose.
They did that last year. They'll probably do it again this year.
I do think this is what they needed to do, but it is
also funny that you're still
fucked up. I gotta know how you did it.
How? What did they do wrong?
Because you're going to sign
KD off a torn Achilles.
We don't know if he's
going to be the same.
You have to.
This is the move
you have to make.
You have to, yes.
Sure, but I don't think
it works out.
I still think you're going
to end up getting fucked
because you did all this
for one guy
and then he tore
his fucking Achilles
in the last game he played.
Terrible luck.
And now you're going
to sign him
and I don't know if he'll
be good.
I don't know if he'll
be the same.
He won't be the same but I I really like RJ Barrett, bro.
You have to hear this point.
This idea that you guys have of getting to the playoffs and winning a round or two is going to be amazing.
It will be, but that shit gets old real quick.
It becomes about championships real fucking quick.
I totally understand that, but I have lived through every Knicks quick fix that there possibly could be.
I'm totally cool with building around young, talented guys, getting actual talented players, not some fucking international dude I've never heard of before.
A guy like RJ who's very good.
A guy like Kevin Knox who could be very good.
Dennis Smith Jr. is good.
Mitchell Robinson is good.
These are good young players.
If you still got cap room and you got fucking a year of KD to maybe come back,
yeah, you're right.
Playoff series, one or two, that's fine.
But I'm cool with that other than fucking swing for defense,
get two free agents, and now you're in the Lakers situation where it's like
championship or bust.
If you sign Kyrie, it'll backfire hard.
You get KD and Kyrie, it ain't going to work.
Fuck the Knicks.
Fuck the Knicks.
Let's move on.
Fuck the Knicks.
Let's move on.
We got a lot of relevant teams.
I want to talk about the Lakers, okay?
So, all right.
Here's the situation right now with this AD trade.
I want to talk about how the Lakers fleeced New Orleans. I've never
seen a more one-sided trade in my entire life.
This is crazy. Fleeced
New Orleans, okay? Brandon Ingram,
dog shit. We've been saying he has
potential, he can score,
he's great, this, that, the other for years. He can't.
He's not that good. He can't get a shot off.
He's big, he looks the part, but he doesn't play
the part. He's the new Darius Miles. It ain't gonna work out.
Wow. Number two. Wow. Number looks the part, but he doesn't play the part. He's the new Darius Miles. It ain't going to work out. Wow. Number two.
Wow.
Number two.
Okay, who else are they sending?
Lonzo.
Josh Hart.
Lonzo Paul.
No, no, we're going to save Lonzo.
Josh Hart.
Good player.
Solid.
He's good.
He's fine.
He ain't going to change a franchise, but he's good.
He's fine.
He's fine.
But we can get a 6'2 guy who can shoot threes anywhere.
I can pick that up from a 4th Street if I want to.
Easy to replace, right?
Who else was in the trade?
Lonzo. Lonzo.
Anybody else?
Any other players?
Those are the players.
Okay.
And then now we have Lonzo and three picks.
Now, Lonzo is the only one that I see could be potentially transcendent player.
Okay?
So you really traded for Lonzo and then these three picks.
Now, these three picks, all going to be dog shit.
Why?
Because now the Lakers are good.
Now they have fucking AD.
This year it's the number four pick.
This year, number four pick, right?
In a two-person draft, they got the number four pick.
Three-person draft.
Let's hope it's three-person because I still got a little mixed,
but we know it's two-person.
So they have the fourth pick in a draft that has two players,
so dog shit, right?
So you have a dog shit pick.
You have two dog shit players.
Then you have three later picks, right,
which are all going to be dog shit because now
the lakers are good so you really traded ad for lonzo straight up that's really what ended up
happening here the only thing the lakers really lost was lonzo's potential no no that's that's
worse trade for the i mean amazing trade for the lakers amazing trade for the lakers but for new
orleans i don't understand how you possibly do that. I think they both won.
I think this is the rare trade where both teams got with it.
I don't see it.
I think they both won.
I'm not as on your side, but I don't think this is a win.
What did they get?
They got options for pick swaps.
There's certain years where you can flip.
If they like where the Lakers are picking a draft, those are our picks.
So for the next seven years, this pick, the next three first-round picks,
and they have two pick swaps after that.
So they could do what essentially the Boston Celtics used to do.
When Brooklyn Nets got a nice pick, oh, that's a nice pick.
We'll take that from you.
That turns into Jason Tatum.
That turns into Jalen Brown.
So let me ask you a question.
What are the chances that the Lakers are going to have dogshit picks
in the near future when you have LeBron James,
when you have dogshit picks, the near future? When you have LeBron James, when you have dogshit picks, I mean, sorry, really good picks, when you have LeBron James, AD, and another marquee free agent coming this year.
Might not get another marquee free agent.
You got a couple good years of LeBron left, maybe three.
And then after that-
And Anthony Davis has not proven to be very healthy all the time.
So after the LeBron-
The Pelicans just had him, and they are now picking number one.
Right.
So after the LeBron, after the LeBron legacy, you have the and they are now picking number one. It's very possible.
After the LeBron legacy, you have the AD legacy that's going to continue.
And you're going to have new guys
that you sign around the Lakers
with AD. All I'm trying to say is
the Lakers are poised
to have very bad first round picks
for the next seven years if they want to.
So they gave up their potentially
very bad first round picks.
So what do you think they're picking?
4 AD.
Sorry?
You think they're picking number 30 every year?
Because I don't think that's happening.
They're picking late 20s.
They may be in the early late 20s.
Late 20s.
I don't know.
Like, I mean, listen.
And when you pick late 20s, that means you pick early second round, right?
So they keep their second round because it flips, right?
Yeah.
So they keep their second round picks. Yeah. Right? Which are all going to be good second round, right? So they keep their second round, because it flips, right? So they keep their second round picks,
which are all going to be good
second round picks. So they're
going to get the best players possible in the second round
and then give up the dog shit in the first round
anyway. I mean, really, realistically
speaking, do you think the player that goes
28, is that different than the player that goes 3 in the
second round? Who could have offered something better?
You gotta have a lot of... I say wait.
I always say wait until the All-Star break.
Like something will come up.
I kind of like that strategy.
I think the Spurs could have waited on Kawhi.
I think if you got a star...
Matter of fact, the most not lopsided superstar trade I've ever seen is the Nuggets for Melo.
And they just waited.
They were like, look, we'll wait.
We know where he wants to go.
I kind of like that.
Y'all want to cough it up.
You're going to get impatient.
That was a good trade for who?
For Denver.
Yeah.
Yeah, for Denver.
Yeah, that's the position I'm talking about.
You're the team that has a star who wants to leave.
Just wait.
I'm in no fucking hurry.
I don't care.
I will wait you out.
Maybe this is my Indian negotiation skills talking.
I don't need them.
I'm in no rush.
I want the deal.
I like that.
Matter of fact,
last All-Star break
they were offering
all this and Kuzma
and I think another
first round pick.
I think a fourth.
If you got Kuzma
as well in this deal,
I feel a little bit better
because...
Is Kuzma that much better
than Brandon Ingram?
He's flippable.
No, they both suck
but he's...
He put up 18 a game.
He doesn't suck.
He's not this transcendent
Kevin Durant type talent
but he doesn't suck.
Kuzma's got more potential
because we have seen less years
of him not living up
to... Also, he had no expectation whatsoever
and now he's exceeding. Brandon Ingram, like,
this is the next KD and he's
turning out to be the next Darius Miles.
He's already better than Darius Miles, of course. No, he's not.
Yes, he is. I don't think so. He's averaging 18 a game.
Darius Miles never averages even close to that. Brandon Ingram's not averaging.
He just had a nice taunt and some dunks. Brandon Ingram's not averaging 18 a game. Adam, please look it up. He's averaging 18 a game. Darius Miles never averages even close to that. Brandon Ingram's not averaging 18. He just had a nice taunt and some dunks.
Brandon Ingram's not averaging 18 a game.
Adam, please look it up.
He's averaging 18 a game.
You have to go to NBA.com and listen to player stats or ESPN player stats.
I'm sure Chris is going to do a better job.
You can say dude sucks, but it's like, yo, 18 a game.
That's nothing to sneeze at.
You got Zion Williamson coming in.
You got Lonzo Ball, who's like the perfect point guard to play with a guy like Zion Williamson.
See, I don't think he is.
Why not?
Because everybody's so excited about this Zion Williamson, Lonzo Ball connection, right?
Near them can shoot.
You know how easy it is to stop the pick and roll when you don't have to worry about either
party shooting?
You just come under.
I beg Lonzo.
I beg Lonzo to shoot in the pick and roll.
Now, Zion, what happens if Zion rolls out and you give him that foul line jumper?
Give it to him.
I'm not worried about that either.
Who said he's taking foul line jumpers?
He's a freak of nature.
My point is, so we have the pick and roll.
He's saying the ideal pick and roll partner for Zion is a shooter.
It's like a Steve Nash point guard.
Steve Nash, I dare you to come under.
I dare you to come under that pick and roll with Steve Nash.
I'm lighting you up all day.
But there's other plays, man.
If you've seen Lonzo play, he's a guy who gets the ball and runs in transition.
And Zion's a guy who runs in transition as well.
Also, keep in mind, Lonzo can only go one way in the pick and roll.
He can't go right on the pick and roll.
18 a game.
Five rebounds, three assists.
Solid.
Solid.
That's a good pickup.
Solid.
Solid.
I can't handle it. I just don't think he's as good as people think he is, but solid. Yeah. Solid. Like, that's a good pickup. Solid, solid. I can't handle it.
I just don't think he's as good as people think he is, but solid.
Yeah, I remember people didn't want to trade him for Kawhi, and I was like, you guys are
fucking retards.
But real quick-
Like, the Celtics are going to kick themselves from that.
Trading Jalen Brown in the Sacramento pick for him?
Zion Lonzo, right?
Pick and roll.
Now, Lonzo has this thing where he shoots coming up the left side.
So he actually can't go around the pick right and then pull up as he's going right.
He can go beautifully left because he's actually shooting away from the defender.
But if he comes around right, he's actually fighting his own momentum to get the shot off.
So he's limited in his ability to operate the pick and roll.
You also got Drew Holiday there, too.
I love Drew.
Who might be— I am a fan. He's flipp also got Drew Holley there, too. I love Drew. Who might be.
I am a fan.
He's flippable.
If you're rebuilding, Drew can get you something.
I think so.
And he can get you something on a team that's almost there.
Who needs that.
He's a guy you put on, I don't know.
The Bucs, maybe.
No, Bucs, Lakers, ready?
Wait for it.
The Warriors.
The Warriors.
The Warriors need some scoring. And they need some scoring, need some buckets.
And they need some defense behind Steph.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I can see that.
I can see that.
I mean, I don't know who has assets that you would want anything from, but like, yeah,
he's a guy.
And I also don't know how many years he got left on his fat-ass deal.
He did get a fat deal.
That was crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
But he's good.
So we didn't really talk about what this means for the Lakers, though, this trade.
Oh, yeah.
Well, real quick, I just want to address, because we'll move away from norms and just go Lakers.
You know who's got to be kicking himself right now?
LeVar Ball.
Because he drank the cooling, right?
He said, okay, I'm going to be quiet.
I'm going to play along with LeBron's plan.
I guarantee he was giving assurances.
I guarantee they said, hey, Lonzo's not going anywhere you just got to be quiet
and let us do this and he said okay I'm gonna be quiet I'm gonna go along with
the corporate way I'm gonna go along with the corporate system come on with
it mm-hmm and what happened they traded his son's ass in a fucking heartbeat
realistically though what could he have done if he spoke up and LeBron was like
get this guy the fuck out of here.
They're getting him the fuck out of here.
I think, I really do believe that when he speaks up,
better things happen for his kids.
I think when he is quiet,
worse things happen for his kids.
I think when he speaks up,
he controls the narrative of his kid.
I think when he speaks up, he can go,
listen, when my kid's in the game,
he's averaging 10 assists a game,
LeBron's playing better, everybody's playing better.
Without my kid, this team
wouldn't even be doing anything. He's the
most important player, whatever it is, and then all
of a sudden when trade talks start to happen,
the LA people go, trade?
Lonzo? But everybody's
playing better with Lonzo. Why would you?
He shut up, and his kid got shipped out
to New Orleans, and the problem now is for New Orleans because LeVar is not going to shut up over there.
He's going to be the loudest mouthpiece the NBA has ever seen, and I cannot wait.
It's going to be great.
I love it.
I can't wait for Big Baller.
Big Baller brand for the part two in New Orleans and the Big Easy Baller brand.
Oh, I love it.
I can't wait for it, bro.
I can't wait for it.
I think New Orleans, I think the Pelicans are going to be fun, man.
I think if I was them, I'll take that fourth pick, flip it for somebody,
try and get like Bradley Beal or somebody.
Everybody's trying to replicate the Celtics thing, which is assets.
That's why the three first round draft picks are big.
That's why these guys, the pick swaps or whatever, like it's just assets.
We just want a war chest.
Now, the problem with threading that needle, man,
is the Celtics might have missed their window.
They stockpiled all the assets.
They called their bluff.
They called their bluff.
Kawhi is out there.
Kawhi, we don't know.
Jalen Brown and a Sacramento pick probably would have gotten it done.
And they're like, well, I don't know.
We got this kid.
He's good.
Let's just sit it out.
And now you're fucked.
Let's make a trade.
The entire league called the Boston Celtics
bluff. They're like, you're not
going to trade any of this shit. And on top of
that, it didn't help that. What do you mean? Explain that more.
I'm talking about how they stockpiled
all these assets and they were looking at Danny
Ainge like this fucking GM
guru genius or whatever.
I was too. We all did.
We all did. We looked at them. We looked at all the
high first round picks they had, the cap space, and the fucking star
players that they already had.
We're like, these guys are going to be good for another 10, 15 years.
And they still might be.
Right.
But you kind of missed out on the treasure chest of free agents right now.
Right.
You don't have the money to go out and get any of these guys because Kyrie's about to
leave.
And you're kind of sitting there with your dick in your hand next summer because who's left?
Anthony Davis?
Well, that's the thing.
Who's going to resign?
They gambled on the wrong player.
They gambled on Kyrie.
Yeah.
Kyrie's not a guy you gamble on, man.
I'm telling you this.
As a guy, we just watched this happen.
We just watched it.
They gambled on Kyrie.
Kyrie's like, no, I'm not staying.
I'm out.
So they said, okay, we took our gamble on Kyrie.
Kawhi is hurt.
Let's not take that gamble.
Why is the gamble you take?
Okay, okay. Now I'm putting it together. To me, you gamble on Kawhi just because. Let's not take that gamble. Kawhi is the gamble you take. Yeah. Okay, okay.
Now I'm putting it together.
To me, you gamble on Kawhi
just because I saw his ceiling
and that's why I had him picked
two years ago to win MVP
because you've seen Kawhi's ceiling.
It destroys other teams.
That motherfucker Thanos.
I said Thanos earlier.
He Thanos.
Whatever your best Avengers are,
bring them on.
I got them.
Right.
Can I read just a guy
who's a really good second...
He gets buckets.
He's a really good second fiddle. That's it. I don't want to take a risk's a really good second he gets buckets he's a really good
second fiddle
that's it
I don't want to take a risk
on a really good
second fiddle
let me swing for the fences
on the number one
motherfucker
right
and then
take
we'll see what the second
you know what it is
they saw what
Isaiah Thomas did
did you see the latest
Avengers
yeah
Thanos loses
Thanos loses
yeah
but who else
am I gonna to pick?
He's Iron Man?
Who sacrifices himself?
Who also loses.
He also dies.
You've got to go Scarlet Witch or whatever that cunt's name is.
I think they saw what Isaiah Thomas did for that Boston Celtics team
and were like, oh, Kyrie's better than him.
This should clearly get us over the hump.
And conventional wisdom tells you that that might have worked, but Kyrie's not than him. This should clearly get us over the hump. And conventional wisdom tells you that that might have worked,
but Kyrie's not all there sometimes.
I think that's exactly what it was.
And to be honest with you, I think that's exactly what Toronto felt.
They're like, DeRozan is getting us here.
Kawhi's going to get us.
He'll get us over the hump, and he did.
And I think it might be
hard for us to tell
what a diva
Kyrie was
when he was with
Cleveland.
Yeah.
Because he was under
Dadbron.
He was under Dadbron.
Yeah.
Dadbron wasn't taking
that shit.
I just thought
in terms of the game
like a guy who can
control the game
defensively
what's the term
you shut the water off? Kawhi can term he always uses? Shut the water off?
Kawhi can shut the water off and turn the water
off on your other team's best player.
Kyrie don't have that potential. Sure, but
neither did Isaiah. I think that's what
Kaz is trying to say, is if they went
that far with IT... Okay.
Just upgrade that one position.
And I think... And he was hurt.
Yeah, we have a hurt IT.
We have healthy Kyrie, who's already got championship experience.
Bring him on board.
This is how we cross the hump.
Or what is it called?
Get over the hump.
Which is reasonable.
I think that was a smart decision.
Yeah.
I mean, you make the trade.
I get it.
I guess that's just how thin the margin is then.
That fucking thin, dude. Who would have thought before this season that DeMar DeRozan was that much worse than Kawhi?
That much?
That much?
I would have told you that.
I thought, son, I picked them to go to the finals as soon as they got Kawhi.
I just remembered Kawhi shutting down peak LeBron.
And I will never forget that.
We all picked them to go to the finals.
Yeah, I said I think they'll beat the Warriors.
No, you said the Warriors were going to lose, but you didn't think that they would beat them, right?
I said if they play the Warriors in the finals, I think they can beat them.
Oh, you didn't even think the Warriors were going to the finals.
I think, I don't know.
I don't know when.
I just didn't see them winning.
But I said if they play the Warriors in the finals, I think because Kawhi can do that.
Right, right.
It was only one, three quarters of basketball or whatever.
We saw him against the peak Warriors just fucking wrecking shop.
Right, right, right.
I just saw that potential.
I thought he was a little bit better than DeMar DeRozan.
My only hang-up, I agree with you on that.
My only hang-up was the injury.
I didn't know if he was going to be back to Pete Kawhi again,
and he was for the most part.
I mean.
Load management.
I'm fucking real.
So Lakers, what does this mean for them?
Are they the favorite now?
Yeah.
He's that good, man.
I hated on AD until I saw him play in the playoffs.
He's that good.
He's great for LeBron, too.
Okay, let's go on that.
He's the perfect LeBron teammate.
He's the perfect LeBron teammate.
Talk to me about that, because I'm trying to wrap my head around why he is the perfect LeBron teammate.
I'm speaking mentally, not basketball.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He'll cuck out to him.
He is fucking fantastically talented, and he's never going to challenge LeBron for alpha dog status.
Okay, but let's talk about on the court.
Why is he the perfect one?
If you're a LeBron James teammate, you need to be able to shoot good.
Okay, good shooter.
You need to be able to protect the paint.
You need to be able to finish around the rim.
You need to be able to take a lot of the shit that comes with painting LeBron James.
And Anthony Davis checks all the board by himself.
Okay, real quick.
By himself. Okay, real quick. By himself.
He's Kevin Love and JaVale McGee and Tristan Thompson and Kyrie Irving all in one.
He is Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson.
He's Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson with like Wade mentality.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the perfect LeBron teammate.
So how do they space that floor?
He can spread the court. But how So how do they space that floor? He can spread the court.
But how?
How do they position that offense?
Is LeBron playing point?
No, I don't think LeBron plays point,
but I do think Anthony Davis spreads the floor as much as –
you don't want to make him like a Kevin Love just bought up guy.
I'm asking specifically where do you put him?
LeBron?
No.
AD?
Yeah.
Because LeBron's going to have the ball.
Center.
No, I know he's going to play center, but where on the floor?
Is he going to be in the wing?
Is he a stretch five?
Because here's the thing.
With LeBron, you can't have AD on the block, right?
Because if he's on the block, it's going to clog up that lane, and LeBron wants to get
there unaffected, right?
I don't know, bro.
The great thing about AD is you can literally put him anywhere.
So where do you put him?
Everywhere.
So here's my question. You put him anywhere. So where do you put him? Everywhere. So here's my question.
You put him everywhere.
So check this.
Do you go pick and roll up top with LeBron and AD?
Because no matter if they switch, LeBron has a center on his heels.
If they don't switch, if they switch and then the ball goes to AD,
AD's got whatever power forward of three. You got to stop the locomotive LeBron coming around the corner.
It's unfucking fair.
I think you go pick and roll with them up top.
And you do that a lot.
You definitely do that a lot.
But at the same time, you always want to – and another factor for that teammate, you got to be somebody who takes gravity away from LeBron.
You got to be somebody like Wade who like – LeBron aside, I still go get you 25.
Right. Kyrie aside, I could still go get you 25. Right.
Kyrie aside, I could still go get you 25.
Right.
Like, he is a guy.
I forgot what.
He had a stretch of games this year.
We had, like, 53, 46.
Like, stupid fucking numbers on the Pelicans.
And it's like he is.
LeBron and Wade and Irving were great talents.
He'll never play with a player better than Anthony Davis.
Okay, so does LeBron finally have someone on his team where if LeBron goes to the bench, the team can score?
Absolutely.
That wasn't that way with Kyrie.
Kyrie couldn't get fucking buckets when LeBron went to the basket.
Even better.
That's why, to me better that's why to me
that's why you don't
go for another max free agent
I think you build a team around them
I agree with you guys
but he's got a guy
who not only that
when LeBron sits out games
to rest
they can still win
remember the teams
were always like one
and infinite without LeBron
that's a great point
okay so now you get to
do load management
with LeBron
as he gets older
very important
another thing
he essentially did
load management with AD this year.
Like he didn't play a fucking game.
100%.
So here's another question.
As we start to build the team around AD and LeBron, obviously we need shooters.
Listen, getting a guy like Chris Middleton.
That'd be big.
It's huge.
But you're going to have to pay.
Do you look for a guy like JJ Rennick?
Oh, absolutely.
You bring a JJ in?
Yeah, JJ's great for LeBron.
Yeah, you see what he did with Embiid.
He put up career numbers.
And Andy Davis is better than Embiid.
And so is LeBron.
And LeBron is better than Jimmy Butler and Ben Simmons.
So do you get a guy like J.J.
and then pay him a lot and do like one years?
Yeah.
Do you pay him like the $15 million and do a year?
You go get Danny Green.
Get Danny Green, get J.J. Redick.
Danny's legs are done, man. He looked horrible in the bad men. You go get Danny Green. Get Danny Green. Get J.J. Redick. Danny's legs are done, man.
He looked horrible in the series.
But you go get those shooters.
You go get those role-playing.
Do you even get a Kyle fucking whatever his name is?
Korver, yeah.
Oh, he'll go play with LeBron for free.
In a second.
Woke Bay, Kyle Korver.
Absolutely.
Comes to the Lakers.
So you need, what, two or three of these guys?
Mm-hmm. You know what they did last year when they signed LeBron and they got a bunch of pieces?
You get less crazy pieces.
You know what I mean?
Like they got fucking head cases, but you just go get pieces again.
LeBron, you can build him a complete team.
You still don't have a coach, which is wild, but you can build him a complete team.
You got a fucking superstar he's never played with, and now you can build pieces to complement these guys.
Build the actual team.
Get a Kyle Korver.
Get a J.J. Redick.
Get whoever the fuck else would be good with them.
But you also need guys defensively who can lock down.
3 and D guys surrounding LeBron would be perfect.
But who's there?
Who's a 3 and D guy that's left?
Trevor Reza's out there.
Trevor Reza is out there.
And he's an L.A. guy.
He would love to be back in L.A.
He would love to end his career in L.A.
Does he have legs still?
He was in Phoenix.
He probably saved his legs all year.
That's what I'm saying.
Phoenix, they got some shit over there where it's like the fucking fountain of youth.
You go over there and all of a sudden you get three more years back in your career.
I don't know what the fuck they do over there.
go over there and like all of a sudden you get like three more years back in your career son i don't know what the fuck they do over there trevor orisa would be the perfect three and d for the
fuck and that length think about the okay what is trevor is a six seven six eight six eight long
right length on the floor is crazy ad lebron trevor everybody you're talking about i mean at
that then you can bring a j, then you can bring a JJ.
Then you can bring something little
because you can fill the gaps.
Whoa.
Who runs that show?
That's my thing.
Who runs that show?
LeBron.
Is your point forward?
Whatever the fuck.
Okay, if it isn't LeBron,
who do you bring in?
I don't think Rondo can shoot well enough.
No.
I think another, again,
you look at, and people, this name's going to keep coming up.
Fucking Brogdon from Milwaukee.
You love Malcolm Brogdon.
I love Malcolm Brogdon, bro.
He's a good role player.
He is like fucking, he's like a souped up George Hill.
Okay, what if it's not Brogdon?
What if it's somebody else?
I don't even know who else is out there.
But, I mean, shit, there is.
I think it was an interesting option that you'd have to max out,
but also interesting.
Jimmy Butler.
Yeah.
But to run it?
Not to run it.
Just to have him there.
Have him there.
Absolutely.
He's a great guy.
I also think he's too individualistic.
I think he has such a strong individual spirit that he wouldn't coalesce
with a LeBron team.
I think you need guys who will just fall into the flow.
I don't know, man.
And a lot of things people aren't really taking into consideration.
We're saying these people got to get maxed out, but you got AD and LeBron in your team.
Yeah, you're willing to take a little less.
Somebody's going to take a little shave on the top to win and play over there.
Ariza would be huge.
Brogner would be great.
I don't know what other free agent point guards are out there.
I mean, Kemba.
I think Kemba works so fucking well there.
But I don't want to do Kemba and JJ because now you're too small up top.
Kemba can be your only small guy.
But, dude, Kemba.
Like, imagine what Kemba did with zero gravity around him, as you say.
Pulled 25 a game.
Holy shit.
He's shooting as good as he's ever shot in his career.
You got Kuzma hitting threes.
Knockdown three.
Kuzma's very good.
Oh, does Kuzma start?
Kuzma starts. Kuzma starts.
Kuzma starts.
He definitely starts.
That's another long guy.
This is nuts.
AD.
Kuzma.
Kuzma, powerful.
LeBron.
Trevor.
Kemba.
Yeah.
That's stupid.
That's a five.
That's stupid.
And the five is good, but you need that fucking depth.
Like, that you will run.
That's why I don't know if I'd do Kemba.
I would build pieces.
Unless Kemba comes for less money, and we pitch him on, like, hey, we're going to win this chip,
but, like, we got to take this money so we can get A, B, C, and D.
Like, you need fucking depth in the finals to win championships.
You'll win all the games you want.
You need at least seven contributors, I think.
You're going to have LeBron and AD sit at least 20 games for load management.
You need to go at least eight, nine deep to win a chip this year,
especially going through a team like Denver,
who's going to be deeper than ever.
See, I still think Denver's a problem, man.
I don't think the West is necessarily the latest.
That's what I keep saying.
Michael Porter Jr. comes back and plays ball.
They are a real issue.
They are a championship team.
That aside, if another player becomes available for a trade,
another fucking alpha dog, you know who got pieces out the ass is Denver.
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
And great front office.
And you know who
We shouldn't sleep on
Portland
Portland's gonna be
Right back in there
Portland hooped
Enos Cantor
Is gonna be good
They lost Nerkit
He's gonna be back
Nerkit's gonna be back
Like yeah
Yeah Portland's not
Going anywhere
No slouches
I was watching
Get Up Again this morning
Like everybody was saying
Like they've been watching
Michael Porter Jr.
All through the off season
And he looks like
He's going to be a problem.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was a walking bucket in high school and college.
He was a higher prospect than Trey Young.
All these fucking big guys who ended up cooking in the NBA.
And everyone's saying, yeah, no, he looks like the real deal.
Really?
And he's cheap.
That's right.
You got him for what?
Three more years.
Whatever.
On his rookie deal.
You know what I'm saying?
Denver's going to be scary. Denver's going to be scary.
Portland's going to be scary.
Can you look at the Nuggets roster on the screen just so we can look at it?
Yeah.
I remember.
Jamal Murray.
They're deep.
That's the thing.
They're deep.
That's what I'm saying.
They're deep.
It's like the Portland Trailblazers when they traded for Pippen.
They had crazy ass depth.
And then they traded a bunch of pieces and got Pippen and came within one quarter of making it to the finals.
So, like, that's kind of how I see the Nuggets right now.
And you got your alpha dog.
You got Jokic, and then you got pieces to trade.
If anybody becomes available that you want, they got so much wing depth, and they got Porter Jr. coming in.
It's like, give up a few, go get somebody, and you still have a complete team with one alpha dog,
maybe two if you can make the trade.
Like, Denver I still think is a favorite.
So, yeah.
Whoa.
The Lakers are right there, and if they build a team,
it's going to be really fucking fun to watch.
Yeah.
But Denver, don't sleep on Denver.
The motherfucking Clippers.
The Clippers will still be there.
Who are they going to make moves for, though?
Who are they going to get?
They were still pretty good without making any moves. Like, they'll still be there. Who are they going to make moves for, though? Who are they going to get? They were still pretty good without making any moves.
They'll still be there.
Gary Harris, Will Barton, Torrey Craig is their shooter.
Malik Beasley, I think, is young and interesting.
Plumlee is good.
He's fucking athletic.
Plumlee, yeah, you're not really going to get shit for him in a trade,
but just wing depth.
Millsap, if he declines his option, you got cap space.
They got four wings right now
that are good trade pieces, I think.
And that's not including Porter Jr.
I think you roll with that squad.
I think you roll
with that squad.
You give a lot of Western Carpet
teams a lot of issues.
Who else is out there, man?
And they took their lick.
I think they're going to be scary in the playoffs next year.
This is the same reason I didn't think the Bucs would win it.
I just don't.
When you're brand new, I don't think you usually win.
I think Golden State was an outlier.
Let me tell you, another team that's going to be out there that we're not even talking about,
but I guarantee you, what's the date today?
June fucking whatever.
June 17th.
The Sacramento Kings will be a problem next year.
They will absolutely be in the playoffs,
and I see them going to the second round too.
They're going to be that young, new, fucking exciting team with De'Aaron Fox
and Willie Cauley-Stein and Harrison Barnes, and they're deep.
They're going to get another young talent.
I like the way that team is made up.
Buddy Heald, another guy who gets 20 a game.
These are, you know, they got one or two veterans.
That's a solid playoff team in the West.
And the Golden State, they're going to be down.
The Rockets are probably going to be down if they lose.
Chris Paul, he said he wants to leave.
Those are two playoff teams that might be on the outside looking in.
And Sacramento is a team that I've been watching for a while,
and they're on the rise, and they're exciting.
And Fox is a fucking dog.
And Heald is a bucket.
And I like the way those guys are made up.
They remind me a lot of this Nuggets team.
They remind me of the young.
Real quick side note, I read they tried to make a move for AD,
but New Orleans wanted Murray, and they were just like, no.
We're not giving up Murray.
Imagine Jokic
and AD. Fucking crazy, dude.
But then
what happens is
those tall teams
run into trouble
in small ball. And Golden State
has proved that they could score
enough to withstand their lack of rebounding.
You need elite shooting, but it does cause a problem.
Because you could run the Joe Kitchen and what's the other guy's name?
Millsap?
No, no.
Joe Kitchen AD.
Oh, shit.
My bad.
We should wrap this up.
One hypothetical.
Does going to a big market team lower your value?
Yeah. I got on Twitter the other day once everybody was talking about the AD trade
and people were like, AD is not top five.
I'm like, what?
And I've seen this happen with a lot of players when they go to big market teams.
Like, you're going to kill me for this, but, you know, when Melo got traded to the Knicks,
when Wade got LeBron and, like, when Wade got LeBron and all these –
and Bosh and all these guys, when you go to a big market team
or wherever LeBron's playing that turns into a big market team,
does that lower your value to the rest of the league?
Because there's a lot of people saying, well, AD might be like top eight, top nine.
I'm like, you must have not have watched AD play basketball in a while
because he's top five in his sleep.
I think
playing in a small market team reduces
your value. So I think that we just
forget how valuable these guys
are. I also think once you go to a
LeBron market or a big market, then there's
expectations. Then you're looked at under
a microscope and then all of a sudden your value is
very different. I can see that.
AD's value, Kevin Love's value as talents,
80s off the charts. As a winner,
he got to the second round once and it was really
fucking cool the way he did it, but that's it.
When you're in a big market,
that shit matters. Yeah, I also think when
you're on, there's a difference between being in a big market
and being on a LeBron team.
It's a different microscope.
Different microscope and different skill set necessary.
It's like there's a lot of guys in the league that could score 25 points on a shitty team.
Yeah.
A lot of guys.
There are very few guys who can score 25 points on a good team.
Yeah.
And those buckets get scarce.
On LeBron teams, you got to be efficient.
You have to be so, and he does put up with uh inefficiency or like um
over dribbling you need to be economic with your dribbles economic with your shots and
uh i think that's what happens like because you look at a guy like kd who's incredibly economic
with his dribbling and incredibly economic he was shooting and then he went to a major market team
and what happened exploded everybody started talking about he was the best player in the league.
Because he's wildly efficient. He was only getting like a handful
of touches a game. Still putting up
25. Easy. He could go to any other
healthy kid. He could go to any team and average
35, 36. He could put up stupid
like the numbers Harden puts up.
Come on. Stupid. Ridiculous.
Hundreds. Yeah. But it's weird. It's weird
how like once you know a guy like that
goes to a LeBron team or a big market team,
people kind of undervalue him.
They'd be like, oh, you were on a shitty team.
But there are certain players like AD who do so much.
And you could look at the Kevin Love example in Minnesota
where he literally had to do everything and put up a bunch of buckets
and got a shit ton of rebounds because his teammates sucked.
I can see how your numbers could explode from that.
But Anthony Davis,
he has no
discernible basketball weakness.
He literally does everything.
His health is the only thing.
His health is the only thing. If he's healthy,
he can run the break. He can
block shots. He can guard almost
four positions. He can shoot the three.
He can defend, rebound.
Everything you need
from a basketball player
he does very well.
So,
I mean,
we're going to get
a very strong reminder
this season
just how good
that motherfucker is.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
I got one announcement
to make.
Gali Gali Mishor
here.
Pakistan Jordan.
Fuck y'all.
Beat y'all ass
and cook you.
You ain't shit ass country country, stupid-ass team.
Suck my dick, Pakistan.
Y'all got washed.
Y'all got fucking washed.
That's my finals.
You was waiting for that all day, God damn it.
Get the fuck out of here, y'all.
What you know about Rohit Sharma?
Fuck you.
Oh, shit.
God damn.
Yeah, I think that's it Shit. Goddamn. Yeah.
I think that's it.
That's it?
Yeah.
Speaking of which,
one more thing.
Kaz and Vic show.
We'll be doing the
Slam draft suite
all week from there.
So all the NBA draft picks
will be coming up,
pulling up,
talking with me and Vic
over at Slam.
So check that out.
And yeah.
Gully, Gully, Shory
and all that shit.
Pakistan,
you got the most
important part.
My bad, bro.
I'm learning, goddamn.
I'm not as cultured
as Andrew sometimes.
Shouts to Bash.
We probably talk about this
next week too,
but I hung out with Bash
from the Discord.
Say where?
Oh, yeah, fuck Bash.
I went to Montreal.
I met up with Bash.
Real cool.
He brought gifts.
I forgot them.
We might talk about it
more next week.
Nice.
But the point is, Bash,
you ain't shit.
You're stupid ass
Muslim country.
Fuck you. Y'all lost. You ain't shit. Suck my dick. Even, you ain't shit, you stupid ass Muslim country. Fuck you.
Y'all lost.
You ain't shit,
suck my dick.
Even though you didn't
know what you were
rooting for in your heart.
Bro,
it's a good week,
man,
but shout out to everybody.
Is Andrew done?
Should we just wrap this up?
Yeah, we're done.
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