Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Lil Duval Reveals How He Survived Death

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

Yerrrr we had to have the living legend Lil Duval to come through and talk about his near death experience and how that shaped his perspective, his unique philosophy on life, what he thinks Ai is goin...g to do the world, and much much more. INDULGE 00:00 Start 00:39 Duval’s wild white man mask 04:16 Legos really helped Duval recover 07:41 Duval truly has it figured out + being secretly influential 12:15 Not seeking validation from others + Duval’s genius zone 16:41 Duval’s near fatal accident + losing the closest to you 24:15 Rest in Peace Clay Evans 25:21 Duval’s recovery + determined to get back up 31:09 Surprised by the love received + Duval was a baby momma 33:42 No animosity or resentment - “she was supposed to hit me” 35:05 Duval is related to Harriet Tubman + embodying Rich Broke 37:52 Duval believes in reincarnation + Christianity = middle ground between Hinduism & Islam 39:57 Surrounding yourself with the right people 41:30 Nothing to really get angry about + Duval’s first accident 43:30 Closest Duval directly felt God + Rest in Peace CoolAide 51:00 It’s a choice to die + no fear of death and Duval’s been tested 1:01:20 Anxiety performing + Finding understanding will make you happier 1:04:12 Duval always felt like a star + throwing D young 1:10:59 Showing not telling + not criticising your own 1:20:22 Duval will be podcasting + people consuming through boredom 1:23:21 Understanding Hollywood was over + everyone followed Duval’s lead 1:30:49 Duval wants to explore space + oceans are insane 1:32:51 AI going to make us Superhumans 1:34:26 No need for Ayahuasca + Shrooms confirmed Duval’s mentality 1:37:25 Times when people trying to silence Duval 1:41:27 What y’all fake caring about today? 1:43:20 US is finally finding its place + Duval is truly Florida Man 1:46:30 Ghosts, Aliens & humans are really dumb 1:47:56 Special moments as a father 1:50:50 Living with no regrets + living his purpose now

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Because I don't think people realize this, you almost died. Yeah. Take me through the whole thing. I'm riding on my four-wheeler, and I'm about to turn in my driveway. Just so happened, this lady behind, I never, I didn't know she was even behind me. She tried to go around me. Boom! Hit me and I flew. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:00:14 I flew, nigga. Wow. Everywhere. Everything was going in my head so fast. My life was going through my head. And I'm like, yo, I'm about to die. My lady come down, she look at me. This is when I knew I was really fucked up. When she's like, oh, yo, I'm about to die. My lady come down, she look at me just when I knew I was really fucked up.
Starting point is 00:00:26 When she's like, oh shit. I knew I looked crazy. First I called Clowns like, I'm being a wheelchair forever now. He like, nah, you gonna get through this. He the reason I got through it, honestly. For real, for real. You know how much I hate this city?
Starting point is 00:00:41 I love the people. You do hate New York, but why? I love the people. It's just the York, but why? I love the people. It's just the city. I always had bad luck here. Why? Every time. Did you show them the mask you wear when you walk around? Oh, y'all ain't seen it?
Starting point is 00:00:51 No. He's walking around. This guy's a fucking lunatic. Which mask? He goes, I don't want people to notice me. What am I following? So he's just wearing like an old man mask. What about the Chihuahua mask?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Oh, I got that one too. That's my... He's really in his Michael Jackson face right now. No, I ain't, man. Except if you took it off, less people would notice. Let me make it big.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Why are you waving at me? Wait, you're doing this to not get noticed? No. Well, I do this so I can walk around and nobody pay me. I'm just doing it for the camera right now, but usually if I walk around, nobody paying me no attention. But say the real reason. Because this is the safest person in New York. An old white man.
Starting point is 00:01:38 A giant baby? An old white man. It's not an old white man. They're looking at you. You look like that. Give me. Yeah, bro. What the?
Starting point is 00:01:46 What's wrong with it? Nobody's fooled by that. Do you think people are fooled? You look like a goblin. Your hands are black. I put my hands in my pocket. It's just for the camera, man. Yeah, but you're wearing a blinged out watch.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Like they know. You can't see the watch in this one. I just put that for the camera. But like if I'm walking around normal. Let me show you me walking around. You think white people look like that? You think that's walking around normal? Yes. Without the skullcap. Like I told you that for the camera.
Starting point is 00:02:08 You think the skullcap is the not normal part? Yes. Let me show you me without the camera. This is so racist. This is what you think white people look like. Nobody came and said nothing. They came away. I didn't want them to see me.
Starting point is 00:02:22 That's the whole point of it. I look so crazy to some people. Yeah. That makes some kind of sense. That is true. You do look crazy. But, nigga, let me show you. You were doing it to scare the Asians.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh, let me show you. Let me show you what I look like. No, you want to scare the Asians, you take the mask off. Hold on. I'm going to show you. I even tried to wear, like, a regular mask, and motherfuckers still notice me. What's a regular mask? Hold on for the show you.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Shit. Let me know when we need to start, because I'm just talking and shit. I think we started. We started. Oh, we did? There's no start or finish. Oh, what's happening, y'all? There's no start. There's no end.
Starting point is 00:02:55 We just go. This motherfucker knew who I was. I don't know how he knew who I was. Let me see. See, like, they can tell who I am with that. Could you tell that with me? No You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:03:08 But they knew Yeah Well, where are you right now? That's in the airport Private airport? No, that's at the regular commercial airport Yeah The peasant airport
Starting point is 00:03:16 I mean So they're catching you at the peasant airport? Yeah All right, that's a good guess That's a good guess If I saw a short black-handed person wearing an old man mask at a private jet- I wouldn't have my black hands out. They in my pocket.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I wear an old members-only jacket when I wear this out and about. You don't really know it's me. I wear some old glasses. I just showed it to you. I didn't even post it. I might post it now since I got y'all talking. You dressed the outfit up for the mask? No, I just did that yesterday for him to send it. That's how I ain't even posted. I might post it now since I got y'all talking. You dressed the outfit up for the mask? No, I just did that yesterday for him
Starting point is 00:03:47 to send it like, that's how I'm out here chilling. You know, I do a lot of shit. Dude, why the fucking, and you're just walking around with Lego sets. You look like a fucking pedophile. I didn't walk around with Lego sets. You're an old man holding Lego sets by yourself. Where did you see me holding Lego sets? Where did you see me holding Lego sets?
Starting point is 00:04:03 That is a little weird. Building Legos? You love Legos, though. Yes. It looks like you're trying to lure them in. No, no, no, no, no. No, I ain't. Old white men. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:13 No, I ain't. Yeah, yeah. Old white men. Y'all don't build Legos? No. No, Legos are fire. No, I love Legos. No, Legos.
Starting point is 00:04:19 It actually helped me with my thinking and memory and all that shit. This is the guy right here. J.K. Brickworks. This is the best dude. He makes his own sets, and then you can buy the set that he makes. Yeah, I know. He probably gave you the instructions, too. You could buy his instructions. That I would do.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Yeah, exactly. I wouldn't buy the set he built. No, no, no. He gives you all the pieces. He gives them all sets. Explain to me the Lego thing. Why this new obsession with Legos? Well, this is how it happened.
Starting point is 00:04:44 When I got hit by that car, I didn't have shit to do. So I was sitting there chilling. So my sister, she was like, she sent me a puzzle while we was in the Bahamas. I was in the Bahamas chilling.
Starting point is 00:04:54 She got me a puzzle and I liked the puzzle. I'm like, damn, this shit all right. It had my mind back working. It helps my memory. And I was like, shit, I'm going to do another.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I did another one, but it was kind of boring. So I was like, I'm going to try Legos. And once I tried Legos it was on and popping and like you know how I am once I start doing something I I do it that's why I never did cocaine oh that's why yeah because I knew I'm gonna like because you you did the best how many Legos since you can I about hope he is snorting by myself. Tony Montana all night. Well, it is true because I knew you before you ever smoked.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Yep. I knew when you didn't smoke, you didn't drink, you didn't do anything back in the MTV days. You wouldn't even go to the red light district with me in Germany. No, the other way around, motherfucker. What do you mean? The other way around. What do you mean? I'm going to tell you a little later right now.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He is never going to cheat on you. This motherfucker. He was all the way in Germany I don't know man. I got more late. I was like By myself Where you went? Yeah, I thought you didn't want to go because you were scared your old lady was going to catch you. Well, that too. See, that's what I'm saying. He kept complaining about his old lady.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I said, I was like, yo, I'm going to go. I was like, do you want to go? And then you were like, well, you going to fuck something? I was like, no, I just want to look. Yeah, that's what it was. You were like, I'm not going to no museum. I'm not going to no museum. I'm like, man, I want to fuck.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It's nice to look, though. No, it ain't. No, it ain't. It is nice, though. Sometimes that's what most women don't realize. I like to have a lot of women around me. I ain't going to fuck them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Just be around me naked. Atmosphere. Yeah, just the vibe. But it wasn't like that in the Red Light District. This was like a bucket list. I ain't never been in the Red Light District. If we gonna go, we gonna fuck. Couple buckets out there.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Type shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be into a hooker that's just right there, storefront, on sale. You know what's so funny, too? I want exclusive hookers. I've never got hard. I've never paid for some pussy like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:00 It's been an exchange. Yeah, I gotta feel like you like me. That shit don't get my dick hard. That's why I've never really got into the trick. Have you given them a chance, though? Have you tried? Yes, I have tried. And then what happened?
Starting point is 00:07:11 My dick would never get all the way hard. How'd you get out of the situation? I just kept fucking, and it wouldn't... And she kept saying, like, it was a baser. Or a crackhead. That's what we call it, basers. What? What?
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah. You think that's why your dick didn't get hard? That's what we basically do. What? What? Yeah. You think that's why your dick didn't get hard? That might have been hard. No, because when I was a jet jet, we used to do that. No, I don't want to talk like that. Talk, talk, talk, talk. No, see it? No.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Nope, I ain't doing that because we can get fucked up in the argument. Yes. So I'm going to just leave that alone. So how y'all doing? Ladies and gentlemen, today we are joined by the legend, the motherfucking GOAT, the most interesting man in the world. We got Lil Duval in the room. Tight shit. Man, I'm so proud of you, man.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Just to see where you come and see how you grew. And just like he said, I saw an interview where he was talking about you. That shit real. Just to see you, even the bigger you get, the more you become a better man. Trying. I got to salute you for that. Trying, man. You're the inspiration, man. You know I always give you credit, bro more you become a better man. Trying. I gotta salute you for that. You're the inspiration,
Starting point is 00:08:07 man. You know I always give you credit, bro. I appreciate it. Like I told everybody, I was like, man, out of all the people that have been around me, it was a white man that listened to me. I used to annoy him so much. So much. Every time he's like, hey, man, stop asking me so many fucking questions. Every day it got cold. Every time we up there, he asks me a question, he asks me something. I'm like, man, man, stop asking me so many fucking questions. Every day it got cold.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Every time we go up there, you ask me a question, ask me something. You tell Charlotte, man, like, man, this motherfucker keep asking me shit. Keep asking about how much I make, what you do this, how you do that. I'd be like, man, stop asking me shit. Because I figured real early that you, like, real early that you had the game kind of figured out. Yeah, yeah. The game of life, he says. No, not, well, yeah, at first it was comedy. Yeah, yeah. The game of life, he says. No, not at all. Well, yeah, at first it was comedy.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, yeah. And entertainment. And then when we went to the Bahamas, I was like, oh, shit. Figured it out. You're operating on a different, a very different level. But real early, I was like, oh, my God, this guy has it figured out. He's got his independence. He's inspiring all these, like, trends. And nobody even knows outside of his community that he's starting it.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Like, even the word basic, his community that he's starting it. Like, like even the word basic, the way that we talk about basic, but like there are people right now that are using it. My fucking wife uses a word that you popularize and has no clue it comes from you. So once I picked up on that early in guy code, I was just like, let me get game.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Like this guy has it fucking figured out. But I respect people like that too because. And you told me, shut up. You go, stop asking questions. Just observe. I guess that's how you picked up game. That's what I tell people all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:34 People don't listen. They follow. You just got to give them something to follow. Most of the stuff we learn, we learn from watching people. We had a guy on the pod who said, more is caught than taught. Yeah. You can teach all you want to, but people aren't going to listen.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yeah, people are not going to listen. And when they do listen, they done heard it for a fifth person. But I get a kick out of that. Like, I get a kick out of seeing people be me and they don't know it's me.
Starting point is 00:09:57 That's where I get my satisfaction from. Like, I don't get it from the flowers. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get it from actually impacting culture.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, and seeing it. It's like seeing, like you got a child, when you see yourself in them, you get satisfaction just in that. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I get out of people. I just see myself in, and not only in just people that look like me,
Starting point is 00:10:19 people like you, people like you. You see it in them. People like you, you see them in them. You is me, so. No, but that's a good point. It's like if you're doing something that he started, that's more obvious. When you see me do it, you're like, oh, I'm really impacting culture. But that's another thing that I picked up from you. It was like, that's all perspective. A lot of people would look at that and be like, all these motherfuckers copying me and I ain't getting no credit. You're giving yourself the validation.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah, it's like, I've always knew you can't wait on other people to give you praise and shit like that. If you wait on that, you're going to be disappointed. So I never relied on that. You know what I'm saying? When people do give it to me, I damn near cry because I ain't used to it. I don't know how to take the
Starting point is 00:11:01 response and the love and shit like that because I ain't used to it. Even when I got in an accident, I wasn't so how to take the response and the love and shit like that because I ain't used to it. Even when I got in an accident, I wasn't so used to it. I didn't realize how many people had love for me. I knew you had love. I knew the people, the tribe that I got around me, I know they're going to be there. So that's where I got my love. But I didn't realize.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Like all these people. Yeah, the industry. The people like people like damn these motherfuckers like i really had an effect on the motherfuckers you had people that was called i didn't expect to call me or people that was checking on me and shit like that there so that that surprised me out of that so what was we talking about i forget yeah you know it's just you getting your just you getting your credit in how you've created a system. And this is what I think you do constantly that I really admire. You create these systems where you can get the validation that you want without somebody walking up to you and patting you on the back.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when they do do that, it's icing on the cake. Yeah, yeah. Like I said, I don't know how to take it. You know what I'm saying? You be like, shit. Like people come up to me, man, you did such and such. And they probably look at me like, this motherfucker's just looking at me crazy. But I really don't be how to take it. You know what I'm saying? You be like, shit. Like, people come up to me, man, you did such and such. And they probably look at me like, this motherfucker's just looking at me crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But I really don't be knowing what to say. I don't know how to say thank you or I knew I did that. That's in my mind. It's like, I know it. How did you learn that? How did you learn I can't look for validation from other people giving me compliments. I got to find it in other ways. Well, I've always did it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I've always did it since I was a kid and I've always had it. But then once I started seeing other people looking for it and they're sad and looking and I was like, I don't want to be like that. You know what I'm saying? This is the observation shit that you keep doing. Like, I don't know was there nobody that was kicking game to you directly so you had to?
Starting point is 00:12:43 That's God, honestly. I can't give no credit. I'm a genius. You know I'm dumber than a motherfucker. No, no, no. I'm not a genius. When I say dumb, I'm not a genius. I'm not sitting up here. I just understand it.
Starting point is 00:12:57 I think you might be. I just have understanding. If you ask anybody that's a genius, they probably tell you. Most people that understand you know how dumb we are. I know how dumb I am. Once you understand it, you take everything and you learn more. People that
Starting point is 00:13:14 think they're smart, they're the dumbest people. Here's what I would say. Andrew uses this term a lot with a genius zone. Your genius zone is life. Living is your genius zone. How to live your genius zone is life like living is your genius zone how to live your genius zone which is a fucking beautiful thing yeah i also feel like you just not you're not fighting life constantly you know there are people who try to swim upstream
Starting point is 00:13:37 yeah yeah and then there are people who just float yeah and i feel like i don't know to me when i'm observing you it's like constantly moving with it and this is why I do say you're genius it's like when I started asking you how you kind of plotted your career
Starting point is 00:13:50 you picked out all the things that you did and then did them it's not like you fell into them accidentally you analyzed it like let's go way back right
Starting point is 00:14:00 let's go like way way back okay see like now you talk give me problems I'm gonna still make fun of you Don't show up I don't give a fuck So he's been trying to blame bro Now this right I thought you were converting to Judaism You would wear the license
Starting point is 00:14:35 You would wear the high chain I had that shit on when I got hit by the car I feel like every time something happened to me I had that on You know what I'm saying I believe in all that shit. You think it saved you or caused the accident? Wait, it's the cause of the protection.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. What? Say it again? Is it the cause of it or the protection? I think it was just a protection for me. Every time something happened, I always had that high piece on. High means life. But imagine if you had...
Starting point is 00:14:59 It means what my song is, living my best life. Yeah. I didn't plan that. It's like the universe just works in my favor. Even when I got hit by the car, I felt like this shit was supposed to happen. I just wish it did. Can we go to the car? Because I don't think people realize this. You almost died.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Guys, the Life Tour show's coming up. We have Houston, April 5th. Charlotte, we added a second show April 13th. Nashville, April 18th. And then Austin, Texas, the Moody Center, April 19th. We got a bunch more dates up at TheAndrewSchultz.com. Go grab them.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Florida, thank you so much for the sold-out shows. St. Petersburg, Tampa, that was amazing. And then Miami slash Fort Lauderdale, those shows were fucking incredible. Thank you guys so much for coming out. I can't wait for the rest of you guys to see this. And we got some big stuff, man. This next show, we're coming. I'll see you guys out there at the Forum in LA. Thank you guys so much for selling it out. Appreciate y'all. So LA, I'll see you guys soon. dandrashultz.com for
Starting point is 00:15:54 those tickets. Thank you guys so much for the support. Peace. Also, guys, dates real quick. First of all, please watch Gaslit, my new special. There's also merch available on my website, akashsingh.com. Gaslit, full special. If you've seen it, watch it again. Tell everybody you know. Also, turns out I have a show that I completely forgot about.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I apologize to Soul Joel. I'm going to be at Soul Joel's in Pennsylvania. We just put that link on my website. That is today, the day this episode comes out. If you're watching this episode the day after it comes out, you didn't even know I was doing this show. So just add it to my website, Souljoelsinsidesunnybrook. Akashsing.com for that.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I think I'm also doing Tempe and Denver in April. But Gaslit, most important thing, the merch also, Souljoels, those are the things. Thank you guys so much. Let's get back to the show. I don't think people realize this. You almost died. Yeah. Like, you were very close. And if you go back a few years before that, you have a song out and you have a philosophy out,
Starting point is 00:16:49 which is just like, Hey, live your best life. You're openly saying I got life figured out. I got it all. I'm I, I, everything's done. I figured it out. Trust me. If you follow me, your life is going to be better. You're like bragging. Was there, do you, I feel like God did this to show. All right. We're going gonna see if you bought all that shit you're talking i've always wanted to ask you that i was sitting there i was like damn he really put me through this shit to show because it wasn't just that it's it's kool-aid yeah then clay or no then accident clay was after clay was like the day i got off my crutch the next day day, that's when this shit happened. So think about this, right? You're telling people, I got life figured out.
Starting point is 00:17:28 One of your best friends passes. You get in an accident that almost kills you. And then right after recovery, a little bit, your other best friend. No, I'm talking about the next day, I got off my crutch. I talk about this on stage. Like, as soon as I got off my crutch, I was like, I ain't got to walk with no crutch no more. He was like, yeah, but take that shit to child support tomorrow. Because I had a child support court tomorrow, the next day.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I took it to child support court. I called them. I was in the Bahamas. Because after I went to child support, I went straight to the Bahamas. And I was like, I did say everything, whoop-de-whoop. He's like, you paid her? Because I had to pay right then. He's like, I did say everything, whoop-de-whoop. He's like, you paid her? Because I had to pay right then. He's like, yeah, I paid.
Starting point is 00:18:07 He's like, all right, cool. As long as you paid her. Hung up. Two hours later, everybody called me and was telling me that shit. It was like, everything was like a movie. My life be like a damn movie. It's like, damn, is this the part here? I know it's part.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I always know life is up and down. But when you're in there, she's like, damn, this is that part of the movie. So do you think God was testing you? Like, you think you got this figured out? I don't think God was testing me. I think it was more a test. He knew I was going to get through it. So he used me.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Because other people probably was like, how you like? He's just talking there. Oh, it's easy to be happy when you're rich. Yeah, it's easy to be happy when you got Jackie in the Bahamas. He used me as an example. And I'm like, damn, this is part of the example. You know, like when you're doing the movie,
Starting point is 00:18:48 and the movie says, you're going to get shot here, you're going to have to do a recovery, you got to lose a lot of weight, you got to do all this shit. The night is always darkest before the dawn. Yeah, so I'm like, damn, this is the part of that movie.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Okay, take us to the accident. Okay? Take me through the whole thing. All right. I'm coming. I'm leaving. I've been in your place. I understand.
Starting point is 00:19:12 So I go. I started before that. So when I'm over there, my batteries be dead on my four-wheelers and all that shit there. So I had to jump the four-wheel up. So I jumped the four-wheel up. I would drive it around to get it on. You got to charge up the battery by driving it. Yeah, I'm charging up the battery.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So I drive down to a beach down there. You know, we got beaches everywhere. I pop up to one of them beaches. I'm sitting there smoking by myself. And I'm just looking back. And you know me, I'd be so, I'd be happy like, I can't believe I'm here. I'm such, such, such, such. I really did it did it so I'm like this is a good place to fuck too so I'm like I go
Starting point is 00:19:50 back to the house Yeah, so I'm riding back. Now, you know, my road is empty as fuck. You might see five cars the whole day on this road. There's no numbers for the homes. No address. You got to know. Go by the red house.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Left at the blue house. Those are the directions that he gave me when we were going to his crib. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And the road is paved, but it's not like- It's paved. It's like one road, and we drive on this side, on the left side, not the right side. And the only reason I'm telling you that is because this is why it happened. So we're driving. I'm riding on my four-wheeler, and I'm about to turn in my driveway.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You know how I'm driving. I'm about to turn in my driveway. I'm about to turn in my- Just so happened, this lady behind me, I didn't know she was even behind me. She tried to go around me. Because you're obviously slowing down. So she's like, I don't want to wait. I'm going around, yes.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And the Bahamas, they drive wild. They don't give a fuck. They drive in the middle of the road. So she's trying to go around me. She's trying to go around me. It's just so happened the right time, boom, hit me and I flew. Damn. I flew.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Wow. Everywhere. I flew. Wow. Do you remember flying through the air? Yes. I talk about it on stage. I ain't gonna give it here because I want to. Yeah. But I talk about it on stage and laying, I was on the ground, I'm sitting there, and I'm like, yo, I'm about to die. Once I
Starting point is 00:21:20 realized I wasn't paralyzed. How do you realize you're not paralyzed? I started feeling my toes. Pain or you're actually moving? It was painful than a motherfucker but it's kind of hard to explain because it was, everything was going in my head so fast. My life was going through my head and everything
Starting point is 00:21:35 and I was like, ah shit, I fucked up. Now keep in mind, where he is, there's no real hospital. No. There might not be anybody. Is your old lady in the house? She's asleep. Listen. So it's like, could you bleed out there?
Starting point is 00:21:51 He was just going to wake her up. I was there on the ground. I could be there forever, right? So I'm sitting there and the lady stopped and she go get my old lady. And so when she go get my old lady, my old lady come down, she look at me. This is when I knew I was really fucked up. When she's like, oh shit. I knew I looked crazy.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I knew it was. And the first thing she said out of my mouth was, oh, you got all your teeth. Because like right before that, the day before that, I had said some shit about people ain't old,
Starting point is 00:22:20 people ain't got back teeth. Yeah, yeah. I got all my back teeth. Yeah. So I was talking shit about teeth. And so she was thinking this was like that. Like, man, fuck out of here. Woo, woo, woo.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So the first thing I tried, I called Clay. First thing I called Clay, I was like, man, I fucked up, bro. I was like, this shit over, man. Like, I knew. Wow. It was a death call. Yeah, I was like. Wow.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I knew. I was like, I'm being a wheelchair forever now. I was like, I'm being a wheelchair forever now. So right through that whole time laying on the ground, I was laying on the ground for a long time. I'll tell you later, but I was going through
Starting point is 00:22:50 all the money I had. I started saying what I can't do no more. You just start thinking about all, like I say, like you said before, I prepared myself for everything. So right then,
Starting point is 00:23:01 I was preparing myself for being handicapped and not having no, be able to go on the road no more All that shit had all my hair But clay kept being on the I don't even talk about cuz it's gonna make me cry good good People need this man. I need to hear about this now So well when he when it when it happened i kept telling him kept telling clay now fuck he like nah you're gonna get through this shit he's the reason i
Starting point is 00:23:29 got through it honestly for real for real i don't want to talk about this shit bro no it's beautiful man no it ain't man like i still beautiful that's why i ain't want to do this shit because i knew you're gonna bring this shit up good i don't even want to know you guys well you don't have to do anything but to me it's really beautiful to see you have these emotions that's why you don't want to talk about it no it's just it's just it's hard it's hard to explain it all through because you still it ain't the accident i'm i overcame the accident i'm still recovering from clay yeah you see what i'm saying so yeah so all that shit happened But the day He was the first person At the hospital
Starting point is 00:24:06 And he was the last person At the goddamn When the shit happened So Yeah The nigga was a real nigga He's the man I don't
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah I think people Who maybe are unfamiliar With Clay He's like an absolute icon In the music business And like a real stand up dude And to the point where There was a lot of situations
Starting point is 00:24:23 That you could probably speak to Like the music business And I think you were his first comedy client right yeah that nigga ain't no shit about comedy he never knew about it but he knew about standing on business yeah yeah you know like like for example like nobody was gonna short you nobody was gonna short any artist of clays and he would really stand up but even wasn't that he was just a genuine person yeah like even when i fuck with you i focus on a genuine person yeah you know even when I fuck with you, I fuck with a genuine person. You know what I'm saying? He just, it is hard to find genuine people. Yeah. And that's why I hold that more than anything.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. People being genuine. Because I can find talent. I got talent. Yeah. I don't need nobody to have talent. I don't need nobody to do shit. Especially with technology.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I can do everything. Yeah. You seen me first. I'm the first nigga with a drone in Times Square. Yeah. I got footage of Times Square that nobody got. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:25:05 So I could do everything myself. Technology, I could do everything myself. It's just finding people, genuine people. I hold on to them. And he was one of them. Shit. So what else we want to talk about? We talk about everything, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:21 I'm curious about the recovery. You go to the hospital, and how long does it take for you to get on your feet? Shit. To get back walking? Yeah. About six months. How long it was? When you came and shot that?
Starting point is 00:25:33 When I was down there and I checked in on you, I'm down in LA and I'm doing a movie. Oh, we went to Magic City. You're just the craziest, dude. I go, yo, man, I want to hang. I want to come and see you. Where you at? I was like, do you want to go get some food or something like that? And then you said, nah, let's go to Magic City.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I was like, why? And you're like, what'd you say? You're like, it's safer. It was something about you parking your car at a restaurant. You were worried that some people might recognize your car, and then they'll try to follow you. Oh, yeah. This is when they were jacking cars like crazy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 They be stealing cars in Atlanta a lot. So you just got to pay attention and know where you're going in Atlanta or whatever. Yeah. But, yeah, I took her to the Magic City and shit like that there. Because that's some vibe. And Clay was there, too. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, Clay always been there for a nigga.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. I mean, that was great. That was right after the accident? No, that was a few months. It was about four, five months afterwards. But I was in my wheelchair. And that's why I put respect on people that are handicapped. Because the world don't give a fuck about handicapped people, for real.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Anybody you see out there in that goddamn wheelchair, they did a lot just to get up. Yeah. Because the world don't give a fuck about handicapped people for real. Anybody you see out there in that goddamn wheelchair, they did a lot just to get up. Yeah. And you learn that when you're in that goddamn chair. But that's, see, that's another thing, like perspective with you. I think a lot of people look at that and they'd be angry that they were in a wheelchair. Nah, I wouldn't. And then you look at it and you're just like, man. Because I knew I was getting up.
Starting point is 00:27:01 They ain't never getting up. You know what I'm saying? Like, I knew, like I said. At what point never getting up. You know what I'm saying? Like, I knew. Like I said. At what point did you decide, I'm recovering from this shit? When I was laying on that ground waiting for about four hours, a couple hours waiting. You know what I'm saying? That's when I knew. So you go through the whole, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 00:27:14 All that shit. I'm never going to walk again. It don't take long for me to. I'm going to walk again. Keep going. Yeah, it don't take long for me. Like, I had, and especially when you getting, when you in the air and flying air and flying, everything passes through your life. You just go through everything.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Well, the first person I called was my daughter, but she didn't pick up. Her mama didn't pick up. Then I called Clay. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So you start. And then Charlemagne. Man, this nigga Charlemagne.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah, this is great. This is the most Charlemagne reaction. Go. This nigga Charlemagne. So I called him. He's on the crowd. I said, yo, I'm fucked up. I might even have him FaceTime us.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah, you're FaceTime. Yeah, he was like, uh. I can't even say it because I don't really want to say what he said. Say it. We can bleep it. We can bleep it. We can bleep it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I ain't saying it because I don't want to throw somebody else under the bus. Can we just cut it and you just tell them? No, I'll tell y'all off camera because I don't trust this shit. We're going to bleep it. We're going to Cause I don't trust this shit We're gonna bleep it We're gonna bleep it I promise you We'll bleep it It was like
Starting point is 00:28:09 So I was like Hey man Cause the first Only person I know That know this Know my islands out there Is Ludacris Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:15 And so I was like Yo call Ludacris And tell him I need him to Send his plane over here Cause nigga I need a jet To get over here quick
Starting point is 00:28:24 To get over to Miami from the homicide. Yeah, he was like, all right, cool. This nigga thought I was bullshitting the whole time. He thought he was doing like a joke or a sketch or something. Yeah, yeah, he thought I was bullshitting the whole goddamn time. It wasn't until Clay called him. You know what I'm saying? Clay is through all this shit.
Starting point is 00:28:41 It wasn't until Clay called him. He was like, yo, Clay. And then he was like, oh, he really is fucked up. And nobody really understood how fucked up I was. Because this is how I knew I could take drugs, too. And, like, that's why I want to do cocaine. Because I could really take some drugs. And they shot me up with morphine, like, three times.
Starting point is 00:28:59 How good did it feel? Man, it felt so amazing. At that moment, I understood why people do drugs. It was like, that shit hit your body. Woo! A warm hug. Dog, I was so hooked up. I was on, they were surgery and drilling a hole in my knee.
Starting point is 00:29:14 I got on live. Wow. And while they was doing that shit, and I was turnt up like a mother. That's when they realized I wasn't bullshitting. That's when the world realized I wasn't bullshitting that's when the world realized I wasn't bullshitting everybody thought I was bullshitting until, that's why I tell you I tell people like, people always talk about the bad shit on social media
Starting point is 00:29:34 but I'm proof that when you use that shit right positivity, it'll goddamn change it'll change the world even through the whole situation all those people like I was talking to Ice-T yesterday at the show he came to the show and he was like man change the world. You know what I'm saying? That shit like, even through the whole situation, all those people, like I was talking to Ice-T yesterday at the show. He came to the show
Starting point is 00:29:47 and he was like, man, shit like that give you a different perspective on life and shit like, it wasn't like that for me. I think who I was prepared me for that.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it made me that. You know what I'm saying? Like, if I didn't have who I was, like the live my best life mind mentality, I wouldn't be able to get through that shit. You know what I'm saying? if i didn't have who i was like to live my best life mind mentality yeah i wouldn't be able to get through that shit you know i'm saying because that broke you
Starting point is 00:30:09 it would have broke the shit out of you yeah because that whole shit and all the love i got from from i always show love to handicapped people and all even before this shit happened all the motherfuckers came to my side really niggaga, my first show was like a whole row of wheelchairs. There you go. That's fire. They all came. He faked this shit for a new market. He's like, I'm going to get all the disabled people out of here.
Starting point is 00:30:36 That shit was packed for the first couple shows. Because I did my first couple shows in a wheelchair. Like Crackaback. Like a drive-in movie. They came out. They was in that motherfucker. They Crack-A-Bowl. Like a drive-in movie. Yeah, they came out. They was in that motherfucker. Like, they all came out of the show in love.
Starting point is 00:30:51 So, like I said, like, nah, they was telling me how to handle shit. Like, even while I was going through shit, like, the DMs, like, they'll send me shit
Starting point is 00:31:00 or people that went through the same situation, they'll tell me how to handle certain shit or give me words of encouragement and shit like that. So it worked a lot, you know what I'm saying? Who was the most surprising person or group that reached out? What were you most shocked by?
Starting point is 00:31:14 Just the... In the whole recovery. It wasn't nobody's celebrities like that. Not even celebrity, but what was the most surprising thing? Shit, the love I got back from the industry people. Cause like I said, you know me, I don't, as much as people think like industry, like hang with celebs, I've never been that guy like that.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I never gave a fuck about hanging with celebrities, but the celebrities that I, that, that, that hit me up, I was more surprised about and about and just the love I got from outside of people that I didn't think that knew me. You know what I'm saying? So shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Like it's more a community thing. Like it wasn't like a... You know what it is sometimes? It's like when somebody's going through something difficult, you feel more comfortable showing them love than when they're thriving
Starting point is 00:32:03 because when they're thriving, you show them love. Some people feel like they're just glazing. Because when they're thriving, you show them love. Some people feel like they're just glazing you. Yeah, yeah. Or like they're just trying to kiss your ass. But when you're struggling, it's almost like the excuse to pour in. To pour in. Maybe so.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I guess so, yeah. Even like when you have a kid, it's so easy for people to reach out and congratulate you and just give you so much love. I felt that. And yeah, it's just an awesome... And then later on down the line, when you called me yesterday, like, man, this shit is a lot. Bro, yo. Yo, he told me
Starting point is 00:32:34 funny shit yesterday, because I was like, yo, I don't know how anybody does this. He goes, man, for the first two years, I was a baby mama. Yeah, I was. But like I told him, that was the... You stayed home during the day yeah like and when my when my baby mama came on i felt like they're like where the fuck you been but all
Starting point is 00:32:52 she been was at work you feel it like but like i told him like that was the most important part like that's what the bond i get with my daughter now because they won the two-year-old time because like it'd be like a nurturing or like a psychological shit that goes on at that time that you bond, that you can't take away from when they get old.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And no matter what somebody say about me, it ain't going to affect them because they're bonding. You know what's crazy? My dad stayed home with me. I believe that. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:33:22 If you love a shit like that, you don't even think about it. But like I say, I even think about it but and I did like I say like I didn't put no thought like I'm not smart enough to say I'm gonna be with my daughter yeah just happy if she won I mean like what the first month I mean the first year I'm not gonna be with her like that but somehow the universe made me why I had to sit there like that for about a year did you have any animosity or frustration to the woman that hit you?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Mm-mm. Like, people ask me, did I sue her? Nope. I never said nothing to her because, like I said, I felt like it was supposed to happen. Like, the way the shit happened and it was nobody on the road. It's like, how the fuck just us two on the fucking road? It's like she was supposed to hit me. And then she was the one that saved me.
Starting point is 00:34:05 If she wasn't there, I would have bled to death You know what I'm saying? Did you ever see her afterwards Or talk to her? People kept trying to talk And then like The Bahamas showed me love too Like they was all praying for me and shit
Starting point is 00:34:15 So it was just like I couldn't Like I couldn't I couldn't like I couldn't love nobody For no shit like that They show you a lot of love In the Bahamas Yeah they show me love
Starting point is 00:34:24 Cause I show them love. It just comes back. I remember when I came there, we were filming the dropping in episode. I had all this camera gear and the people asked me, what is it at the customs? They're like, well, what's going on here? And I was like, oh, we're just going to film something. They're like, is this a professional production or whatever? And I go, I'm just going to film it with a little Duval.
Starting point is 00:34:44 The customs guy was like, nah. See, I'm just going to film it with a little Duval. The customs guy was like, all right. See, I didn't know that, but that's what I'm saying. Sometimes it's just how you move and it works in your favor, because I didn't know they showed me. I don't really show them because I'm really from there. My family's from there, so I just feel like it's a part of me. I feel like
Starting point is 00:35:00 it's my duty to bring the world to have an understanding of our culture. Why do you pretend to be related to Harriet Tubman? What's that about? That ain't no fucking pretend, motherfucker. I got proof. That's my family.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Like, that's my family on my mama's side. Really? Like, my grandma, that's my grandma. That's a great thing to say to white people. And my grandma's still alive, and she'll tell you. Really? She's 90-something. What's she, 90-something?
Starting point is 00:35:24 She don't look like me? No, I can see it. I mean, that's racist. I can set him up for that. I just set him up for that. I'm glad he said it. She looks like Alex, too, though. I think that's funny.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Alex, are you related to her? Y'all are related. What the fuck is happening? I believe, too. Like, I didn't realize this. I didn't learn this until I got older, and it makes me
Starting point is 00:35:49 more understand how I am. Like, I really do shit for my people. You know what I'm saying? Like, I really try to... I'm the Underground Railroad for ignorant niggas. I let these niggas know,
Starting point is 00:36:00 like, look, this is what's coming on. Y'all need to come get on this road before we get left behind. You're the Overground Railroad. Yeah, the Overground Railroad. For real. Like, it's funny is what's coming on. Y'all need to come get on this road before we get left behind. You're the overground rebel. Yeah, the overground rebel. For real.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Like, it's funny, but it's real. Like, we need it. Like, we getting left behind, fuck around. You know what I'm saying? So I'm the nigga that say, y'all not a nigga. Y'all ain't finna leave us.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Do you feel like that's your responsibility? Yeah. And you feel like you have the perfect way of communicating? And it works. I see it. Like, niggas wasn't scuba diving. Niggas wasn't flying.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Niggas was renting jets. But we didn't know we could really fly. You are what you see. Even all the traveling. Traveling, yeah. But it wasn't just for black people. I think you were going to places white people weren't going to just yet.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You were way ahead of the trend of traveling to these places yeah i understand like i but i i also understand it's just like you do shit for the world remember when we first met and i was like yo be honest with me because i was watching his instagram i'm seeing him at a different place every other week i'm yo be honest do you take all the pictures in one vacation and then just spread them out throughout the year i didn't understand it like i didn't understand how rich he was. Most people don't know because
Starting point is 00:37:07 when you're around me, you fuck around and forget. Just like when I'm around Snoop. If you really... Well, everybody knows Snoop, but when you're around him, he's so down to earth and genuine. You forget that he's a superstar. He's a fucking super superstar. Ain't nobody bigger than him. Goddamn.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Everybody knows Snoop on any part of the world so it's I think people have that same thing with me you fuck around and don't even think like this motherfucker just was that how many of that god damn Barclays old 20,000 18,000 20,000 all of them was standing up singing live my best life like it's so you won't realize
Starting point is 00:37:40 that because when I come back home I'm just sitting there chilling in my flip flops and Ridgebroke swimming trucks you, you like new experiences. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I like to, I'm explorer too. So what do you think it is like from people from where you grew up that might be having aversion to trying new things and why were you different? God, I can say, I ain't got no reincarnation. We talk about this a lot because I feel like people say you have a lot of life experience. I feel like you have a lot of lives experience. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That's what I got. You know how I learned that? Joe Rogan. Really? When he told me about what we was talking about on his show. And he was just like... And once he explained it to us, like, you know what? Maybe that's how I figured it out.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Because like I say, I'm not smart. So it was just like, how did I have this much understanding as such as a kid? And then it evolved over time. Yeah, you are like in Hinduism, we talk about people that are just like, they just lived more lives. They figured out, friends of us are just young. I understand Hinduism. Like, I feel like we all Hinduism, but as humans, we do need rules. That's where Islam come in. You don't need rules. That's where Islam come in.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You don't need rules. Everybody else needs rules. No, but rules is a lot for me because I'm Americanized. So that's why I'm a Christian. So I can apologize for some bullshit. Get a little middle ground. I love that. It works out for me. Yeah, you want to know the rules there, but you still want to break them.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah, stay with it. Who don't need them to be that? Nah, we all supposed to be just doing what we want to do, but... That's cool. We don't want to fuck around and fuck a dog. That's why you can't let everybody understand that religion. Wait, wait, wait. Who's fucking dogs, bro?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Understand which religion? Hinduism. It's like, do what the fuck you want to do. It's just freedom. It's like, do what the fuck you want to do. It's just freedom. It's like, you're free. But some people, freedom goes to... You get karma. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:30 You got to pay that. Yeah, but that karma ain't enough for now. That karma ain't enough for now. Like, now, in America, you say, just free and just do what you want to do. We'll do it. You'll do it. So, it don't work here. So, you need Islam to be like, no dog fucking.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah, like, calm your ass down. Stay in these rules and you'll do it so it's it don't work here so you need islam to be like no dog fucking yeah like calm your ass down stay in these rules and you'll never and see i already have my own rules in my head so a lot of stuff i don't i don't know where do you get rules where do you get the rules self-discipline but where who how do you decide where what is moral what is ethical shit you put something in your you put people in your life that's going, like people like Clay, he was the person, like even though, like I do what I want to do, but sometimes when he used to tell me shit, even if I didn't agree with it, I just do it
Starting point is 00:40:13 because it just gave me structure. Dude, it's so funny. I always say this about my dad. I'm like, what would my dad do in this situation? And I feel like a lot of people have that with religion. They're just like, okay, what would Jesus do? Literally, what would Jesus do in this situation situation because he's the embodiment of the best decision to make in that moment yeah yeah and but if you don't have that i can see how
Starting point is 00:40:32 anxious you must be because you never know what the right thing to do is yeah yeah i mean we all can we all can get fucked up with some shit but like like i say i always i'm a forward thinker so if you're a forward thinker you always thinking about thinking about, what if I'm in this position? I ain't trying to go in that position. That's why I've never chased being a billionaire, because I've seen people in that position, and there's nothing appealing to me about it. You know what I'm saying? You're almost a prisoner of it. Yeah, it's like I don't care enough about that type of shit like that.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I don't care about the money. I don't care about all that. I can make a difference, and I've proven I can make a different being on this level Yeah, make a more impact than them motherfuckers more relatable in this level. Yeah Yeah, and now don't get twisted cuz that that part is all part of eco So you need that motherfucker up there, too You know I'm saying because they make changes in the world too. But you still need somebody right here to make a change too. You know what I'm saying? So it all works in the work of the ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Do you ever get upset or angry? And if you do, how do you deal with it? It seems like you never get upset. If I get angry about five minutes or some shit, but there ain't no real anger. There's really nothing to be angry about. I haven't seen everything. I've done everything. I haven't got fucked up.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Damn near died a couple times. That's the second time I got hit by a car. Y'all ain't know it? No. That haven't seen everything. I haven't done everything. I haven't got fucked up. Damn near died a couple times. That's the second time I got hit by a car. Y'all ain't know that? No. That's how this happened. I just let people think there's... But this shit been like this since I was a jet. Since I got... Well, not a jet. About 20-something, I got hit by a car in Atlanta. And dragged under it, right?
Starting point is 00:41:59 No. I got hit crossing the street. Motherfucker hit me. It wasn't as bad as this one. How'd it hit you? Just crossing the street. Motherfucker hit me. What happened? It wasn't as bad as this one. How'd it hit you? Just crossing the street. Just hit me and I flew again. Like, I'm a little motherfucker, so fuck. So I flew again.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And then shit. That time, too, people don't think I'm bullshitting. But that time, too, when I was laying on the thing, blood was coming all down my face. I'm talking about that shit was pouring down out of this shit. And somebody, I don't know who it was, some lady walked up and touched my head and that shit stopped. I swear.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Come on, stop. I promise you, man. Even with this surgery, nigga, I had to have surgery here and here. Three surgeries. Then they told me they saw blood. On your brain? Yeah. They told me that. And they was like, saw blood. On your brain? Yeah. They told me that.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And they was like, we're going to probably have to have surgery in the morning. And that night, I prayed like a motherfucker. To whom? God.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Which one? My God. Whatever God that's been helping me through all this, that's who I prayed to. Take that. I don't care
Starting point is 00:43:00 what other people do, but it's been working for me. God has been working for me so it ain't broken. I ain't finna keep going arguing with people about it. And then what happened? Shit, the next morning, it's like, it ain't there no more. Man, get the fuck out of here, Duval.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Nigga, I'm here. I ain't had no surgery up here. So you think it was the same lady? Nah, it was God using other people to get to me. What's the closest you've had to a conversation? Or the universe or whatever y'all want to call it. What's the closest you've had to an interaction or a conversation with God? I remember you telling me one one time.
Starting point is 00:43:36 What did I say? I don't remember. This is after Kool-Aid or around the time of Kool-Aid. And you said that you thought God used him in a moment to just... I thought God uses all of us. But no, it was a specific thing. You were like, you got emotional when you were talking about it, but you're like, it was like God just went boom and like gave you a fist pump or something like that.
Starting point is 00:43:54 I don't remember, man. When I talk to you, it'd be more genuine shit. So I don't be, it's not like I'm scripted and thinking about what I said and shit. So I don't remember what I said, but I just, like, when I see God, I see God in the good. Like, to me, God is good. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's dope.
Starting point is 00:44:13 God is good. But there's sometimes I feel like you've had direct, what you feel is direct communication almost. I feel like... Not like he's like, hey, people, how you doing? But there's, it was like... I think he said
Starting point is 00:44:25 there's a moment where Kool-Aid has to play small bitch or something like that. Oh. That's right. Oh, yeah. He squeezed your hand. Oh, that's what I said. I said, if you don't believe in God, you ever seen somebody die? That's when you was like, oh, no, this shit real.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Or you realize there's something after this. You see what I'm saying? Why, why, why? Because, like, when Kool-Aid died, right before, I was like, you want me to play something? And he couldn't talk, but he'd give, like, a thing. I was like, what you want me to play? And I was like, you want me to play Smile Bitch? And he did this thing like this, so I played Smile Bitch. He wanted me to play Lovely Day and Smile Bitch.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I played Lovely Day, then I played Smile Bitch. Right after I played Smile Bitch, he tried to pull the shit out. And I said, uh-uh, nigga. I said, don't do it with me in here. And then I went and told his sister. He was like, that's it.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And then after I left, he died the next day. Cause like I was in, I was in Bahamas too that day when, when Clay, when Clay, she had on Clay, I was in Bahamas. And that's why I was like, damn, this shit like a movie. But when he, when his shit happened, cause like what happened was like, that was, I had a show in Detroit and I was like, he was like, man, I don't think, but right before he was like, I don't think I'm gonna make it. I was like, I'll like, man, I don't think, but right before he was like, I don't think I'm going to make it. I was like, I'll be up there, dog. And so he waited until I came up there. And then when I left, he died. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:45:52 That's a brother. It's real, bro. Like, that shit real. That living, death and all that shit. You could die when you want to. My grandmother was in like a comatose state for a long time. She passed away when I was a kid. But she woke up one night out of nowhere and just started talking, asking for her family, asking for
Starting point is 00:46:06 her family. We came back. We came by. She saw all of us, eyes wide open. And then I was like, I'm a kid, so I'm like 12, 13. I'm like, oh, she's gonna make it. She got better. She died two days later, I think. She just wanted to say bye to everybody. She just wanted to see all of her kids. That's how that shit be. And the best thing, too, when
Starting point is 00:46:21 Clay, when the shit happened to Clay, I was stuck in the Bahama because the weather was bad. You know, I can't fly in my plane when the weather that bad. So I'm sitting there. I'm like, damn, I didn't even get to tell them bye. Yeah. I was like, damn, they were about to pull the cord. And then I prayed again.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I was like, man, let me just talk to them. I prayed. Shit cleared up. I went back there and talked to them. Get the fuck out of here. Wow. Tell you that shit be working for me. I know.
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Starting point is 00:51:11 And they didn't, what? I didn't want it. Nigga, I get pussied like this. That is true. You do. Yeah, I get pussied. You do get pussied. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Dude, you have the most honest. Hold on. You know, I'm in the TNT. Speaking of people coming back to life. Yeah, yeah. My man, Nard, he died. The host... Hold on. You know, I meant to tell you, too. Go, go, go. Speaking of people coming back to life. Yeah, yeah. My man, Nard, he died. The host that go on the road with me. Nard died?
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah, he died while I was in the hospital. This nigga died twice, though. What? I swear to God, y'all think I'm bullshitting. Yeah. You think I'm bullshitting. Am I lying? The motherfucker died.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Clay called me, right? He died twice. He died twice. No. The motherfucker died. Clay called me, right? I think that's funny. I think it's that. No. I was like, I told you. For real, because he died, and everybody was sending everything. He came back to life and got on live on Instagram. No.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And then he got married and died. Got married? Yeah, got married to a girl. How long was he alive? How long was that? Not two weeks. Like two, three weeks. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Two, three weeks. And it's proof because he was on live. Like I said, it goes back to when he was like, he wanted to do something. He came back to life. Yo. Cut somebody out. Got married. And died.
Starting point is 00:52:23 So on some level, you think it is a choice when you tap out. I know it's a choice. I've seen it like two, three times. Yeah. More than that, because I just told you Nod, I told you Clay,
Starting point is 00:52:34 and then I told you Kool-Aid. Yeah. So that shit be real, man. Do you have any fear of death? No. What do you think happens? Every time, I've almost died, like I almost died
Starting point is 00:52:44 when I got hit by a car the first time. You know, the month before that, I got stuck in the water. Remember when I was in the water? Bro, this is the scariest fucking story. That was scarier than the month. Can you explain this? People are probably familiar with it because now it's become a pretty popular tourist attraction. What?
Starting point is 00:52:58 That place where you almost drowned. No, I almost drowned. You're talking about the one where you went into the- No, that's Jamaica. No, I wasn't talking about that time. That was another time I almost died. Like, this was the time, that was when I was in Jamaica, and you jump through a hole and come out that way.
Starting point is 00:53:14 This is why black people don't scuba dive. That wasn't scuba diving. No, no, this is crazy. So what is it? It's like- You ever think any of your dead friends are like, how come this motherfucker not drowned? Many times he almost been here.
Starting point is 00:53:24 The coop, you've been everywhere. If they dead and they believe how I believe, not jumping in here? Many times he almost been in here. If they dead and they believe how I believe, they know I'm still down here for some type of reason. That's it right there. Okay, so you saw this girl go down and you're like, I'll follow you. You went the wrong way or something. Yeah, I went the wrong way. Like, I've done it twice. The first time, that's why I thought I could do it. The second time was when I almost died.
Starting point is 00:53:42 So that's crazy. So what happens is you go through there and you slide through and then you come out the other way. But he jumped in- I jumped in, and the first time I did it, I didn't smoke. You know, I wasn't smoking before then. The second time I did it, I went to Jamaica High, the motherfucker smoking, and I'm with my girl at that time. I'm like, all right, I'm finna do it now. I'm trying to show her I can do this shit because she's never seen me do it.
Starting point is 00:54:06 That's it right there. You go down. I went down, and I think I made a right now that I'm looking at that shit. You got lost. You made a wrong turn in Albuquerque. The fact that there's even a wrong way. The dumb part, this is how I knew I was high. I was under that bitch with my eyes closed Trying to navigate Through that shit
Starting point is 00:54:25 I had a big ass scar I put it on Instagram I had a big ass scar show my fucking face But then once I realized I had my eyes I opened my eyes up and I went back up And that's how I got out of that muff And the crazy part when I came up Nobody knew I was dying
Starting point is 00:54:41 Like motherfucker I was down there Until they seen all my face all fucked up from hitting the rocks under there. But you were stuck? Like, something was holding you? No, I just went the wrong way. And then you got to hold your breath. Yeah. So you're, like, in a different pocket.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Exactly. And you just can't get out the pocket. Yeah, you don't get in the pocket. Like, you didn't get suctioned down. Yeah, no, it wasn't suction shit. It's just I was being stupid. Wait, so wait, what was the other time you almost drowned? Oh, the other...
Starting point is 00:55:06 Oh, no. That was another time I was drowned in Key Largo scuba diving. That time I was scuba diving because I almost ran out of air. Because I went too far down deep. And, like, I was so excited. And the more energy you use, the more air you use. So I'm looking at this shit, and it was, like, too... And my instructor left me, too. Why? Fucking with cow grooms. You know cow grooms? Yeah. The more energy you use, the more air you use. So I'm looking at this shit, and it was like two seconds.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And my instructor left me too. Why? Fucking with Kyle Grooms. You know Kyle Grooms? Yeah. Motherfucker, I take him out there. He playing with the goddamn instructor, taking pictures. So they left. They left me right there.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Where is there to go under the water? A lot, nigga, motherfucker. That shit went far. And see where we was at Key Largo. How you doing, dawg? Key Largo is where the strongest current, they call it drifting and shit, where you can float. You ever know when people get an accident in a boat, they find that shit up in Virginia in like two days. That's how strong that goddamn current is down there.
Starting point is 00:56:03 What do they call it? Rip current. Yeah, rip tide. Yeah, rip tide. So if you ain't paying attention, you'll fuck around and be like five miles and don't realize it. And I was floating away. No matter how much I was doing, I was going. And I'm looking at my thing. It say two, like about five minutes left.
Starting point is 00:56:21 So I'm like, oh, shit, I'm finna go on up. So I'm about to go up. And as I'm going up there, she say, beep, beep. I say,, oh shit, I'm finna go on up. So I'm about to go up and as I'm going up, she said, beep, beep. I said, oh shit, I done ran out of air. And the wildest, the crazy part is you gotta do a three minute safety thing. You can't just go straight to the surface
Starting point is 00:56:37 because your lungs will explode. Yeah, you'll fuck around and catch the band. Catch the band, you gotta depressurize. But at the moment moment I was like shit I can't breathe for three fucking minutes under the water
Starting point is 00:56:49 so you got to go so I'm like either but at this moment I'm like I'm going to die either way but either I'm going to die up here
Starting point is 00:56:55 where they're going to find me or die down there nah we going up so I just went on up as soon as I went up man the boat was like like two blocks
Starting point is 00:57:04 two New York blocks no probably four New York blocks down the way and I just got, the boat was like two New York blocks, no, probably four New York blocks down the way. And I just got up and I was like, hey, I came up too soon, I'm about to die. And an old white man, an Asian white man, came and swam and got my ass and swam and threw me on that goddamn boat like a fish. And I just lay on the fish and he saved my life.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Wait, was that the boat you were with or was that a different boat? No, it was my boat. It was my boat. But how did you not get the bends? God. God? I guess.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Sometimes, I mean, it's like, that's why they tell, if you fly, you can't fly for 24 hours. Like, that's the whole rules in scuba that you can't fly for 24 hours
Starting point is 00:57:41 because you can't catch the bends. But I guess I didn't catch it. Maybe I wasn't down no longer than I thought I was, but you still want to do that safety check. Damn. And then the last time, the other time was when I was on a jet ski with my old lady. When you guys just floated out. Yeah, you know where my island at? The little island where we do the reef?
Starting point is 00:57:58 This is terrifying. Like that there, like what happened with that one was, like where I'm at, damn, I don't want to tell y'all this on camera. But me and Moley, I'm like, oh, shit, let's go out there to my island. I got a little small island out there. I'm like, let's go out there and see if something's out there. So I go out there with nothing out there, cut the engine off, tried to cut it on. That bitch didn't come on. So I'm just trying again.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Boom, boom. I ain't tripping. I'm like, all right, boom, boom, boom. Put my whole later on the back. And I'm like, oh, shit. She started getting nervous. I tried again. That shit was, five minutes later, the island was this small.
Starting point is 00:58:40 I was like, oh, shit. Because the tides start to rise. And when he says island, it's like a mound of sand. It's part of your problem. No, it's not a mound. No, no, this is a rock. There was shit right in front of my house. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:50 It's a rock. It's just a big rock and it's coral around it. That's why I go scuba diving and see all the fish. And you could, what y'all do when y'all scuba dive? Snorkel? Yeah, snorkel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's a dope place to go see a lot of fish or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But that day, that shit was like, the current was so strong, like the way it flows, my shit went all the way out there and the shit was this small and it was getting dark. That ocean ain't nothing to be fucked up with. That's the most powerful thing ever. You don't want to play with that shit. And just so happened that, my phone don't work in the Bahamas. Just so happened that day
Starting point is 00:59:26 my phone... Wow. I can attest to this. No fucking service. No service. My phone worked. I called the... I called the police. Coast Guard or whatever. The police, they came and got me. They pulled me out right when it got pitch black. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Right when it got pitch black. If it was about 10 more minutes, we would have been floating probably in Miami or some shit. Jet ski would have been in Miami. We probably would have been gone.
Starting point is 00:59:51 How long were you all out there together? Like all in total? That's a good question. I have to look on my time, you know, the time stamps because I was recording too.
Starting point is 00:59:59 A couple hours? No, we weren't out there that long. Probably about 45 minutes, an hour. But like I said, in five minutes, five minutes in the water and the current flowing,
Starting point is 01:00:09 if the island right here, in about five minutes, you're way like... When you're recording, are you like, yo, guys, I might die right here? Are you doing like that? Nah, when I was recording, I was saying... I don't remember. I got to look at it.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Oh, no, no. When I did record, I showed them where I was at. I was trying to show. I sent it to the Coast Guard. They ain't got Coast Guard. They just got police. I sent it to them. And I was showing them where I was at.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But by the time I showed them, I'm farther. You see what I'm saying? Did you and your girl get into an argument while you were on the jet ski? No. I was so glad. Like I said, I was nervous as fuck because that's my biggest fear, to be fucked up in the war. Out of all that shit, I ain't scared of too much of shit, but out of all that shit there, but every time I was about to die, I always said, damn, I'm about to die.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Even when I was getting hit by a gun, I was like, damn, I'm about to die. Damn, I'm about to die. What are you thinking when you think I'm about to die? You're saying- This is how I'm going to end? I'm like, damn, I'm about to die. Damn, I'm about to die. What are you thinking when you think I'm about to die? You're saying... This is how I'm going to end? Like, damn, this is how I'm going to end? Like, the first time I got hit by the car, like, while I was flying, I was like, damn, so this is how I'm going to go.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Wow. Just calm. It was... I was never... I mean, tripping off a dime. Were you ever anxious as a kid at all? As far as what? Like, did you ever have anxiety?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Like, you have this, like, weird calm. Yeah, always. Nah. Only time I get anxiety is right before I go on stage. That's why I hate going last. Oh, yeah, because you just build up the entire show. Man, that shit just, you know as comedians, you be in your head more and more, and it's even more hard to deal with nigga audience,
Starting point is 01:01:42 because we sitting there motherfucking, I got to make sure I'm great for these niggas. So I'm sitting in my head and the longer I wait, the more in my head I done switched up. I don't want to come up to that song no more. No, I don't want to do that. You know what I'm saying? So that's the only time I get anxiety. I just realized that anxiety.
Starting point is 01:01:59 So black people scare you more than death? That's basically what you're telling me? Now you get it. I my people they ain't so much scared just like you think they're but they make me great too though they're the ones that make me great right because they put that pressure on me to where i you can't feel i can't fail i got that's the only thing that's the reason why i i probably still do stand up because it's the only thing. That's the reason why I probably still do stand-up because it's the only thing that I still have to work at. Everything else, life is so simple to me.
Starting point is 01:02:31 That shit there. Keeps you on your toes. I have to keep thinking about it. Keep thinking about it. So maybe that's why. What's the most important thing somebody could do for a happy life? You're talking to somebody,
Starting point is 01:02:42 might not have a ton of money, might have a ton of money, who knows. What would you tell them? This is what you do understanding that's the key to all this shit having understanding and trying to find understanding that's what because once you have understanding of certain shit certain shit you don't a lot of shit you don't stress off a lot of stuff you you know what to fight and what not to fight and what matters and because sometimes you'll fuck around learn some shit and then as soon as you learn like A lot of stuff You learn what to fight And what not to fight And what matters Because sometimes You'll fuck around
Starting point is 01:03:06 And learn some shit And then as soon as you learn You're like Oh shit I hate all them people now You know what I'm saying Because you don't have No understanding Because you've been
Starting point is 01:03:14 Like say when you find out The Bible says Noah spread the Red Sea Now I scuba dived Moses Who was it? Moses Moses spread the Red Sea Yeah So I scuba dive in moses who was it moses moses spread the red sea yeah so i scuba dive in the red sea i'm looking at like there's no fucking way you know like this shit's like the grand canyon under this motherfucker but some people look at it like
Starting point is 01:03:36 oh that's fucked up fuck christian yeah where i don't look at it like that it's just a story that's give you understand to make you see shit but if you don't look at it like that. It's just a story that gives you understanding to make you see shit. But if you don't have no understanding of that, you would take that and say, fuck all the Bible. Fuck everything. And so you miss out on all the stories and lessons that you can learn just because you heard that shit the wrong way. Yeah, so don't immediately write things off. Yeah, just have understanding. Instead of feeling like, oh, I've been lied to, you think, oh, what's true about this? Yeah, like, why?
Starting point is 01:04:04 So just understand, and that's what. And as lied to, you think, oh, what's true about this? Yeah, like, why? So just understanding, that's what. And as a kid, you would do this? With everything. Maybe not to this level, but whatever level I was. What's your life like as a kid? Like, you're 10 years old. What are you doing? You're in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I've always been popular. I believe it. So I've always been. And you know what's so funny? I just realized why. Like, in my mind, I've always thought I was a star, but I just realized why. Why? Because when I was a kid, my mama had me on this, in this thing called United Way.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Okay. United Way is like. Oh, yeah. The NFL did it. The United Way. United Way. It's like feed the children type shit. Okay. I was the kid on there.
Starting point is 01:04:42 I was the kid that they, like I was the feed the children kid. But in my mind, I guess where it really, everybody knew me. So you're a star. In my mind, I'm the star. But I didn't realize I was the feed the children kid. He's not a star, he's started. Yes, I know.
Starting point is 01:04:58 What an amazing perspective. So, like, I'm glad I didn't realize until later on. I just put two and two together, like, a couple years, like, did she? So you're walking down the street, like, waving at people. Like glad I didn't realize Until later on I just put two and two together Like a couple years Like did she So you're walking down the street Like waving at people
Starting point is 01:05:09 Like I don't know How people looked at You know what people look at People just come up to me Hand me food It's unbelievable I'm a star I'm a star
Starting point is 01:05:16 Baker's just giving me The signs It's crazy I've always Like in my mind I always felt like I was a star But now I understand
Starting point is 01:05:23 Why like now You wasn't no star, just motherfuckers. He was starving. Yeah, motherfuckers looked at you like you was the- Starved. Yeah, like you feed the children, kid. Like, you know what I'm saying? So from that, but programming-wise, subconsciously, by me thinking I'm a star, I guess that plugged me into acting like a star.
Starting point is 01:05:42 You know what I'm saying? And then I learned early on, like when I'm in the hood, I'm looking around my hood, I'm like, I ain't supposed to be here. Like, I don't... Was there a moment where you...
Starting point is 01:05:53 That's where the reincarnation come in, because like right then, it was like... Well, no, that's not for me. This, this, it ain't for me. It's like,
Starting point is 01:06:01 this don't look like, like I don't look like I'm supposed to be in this environment. And so right then, it was like... What was the moment that that just looking around just like i'm like what the fuck and why why do you feel like i don't know like right i don't know because like when i when i made that perspective of my mind i was like i'm here to help these motherfuckers how old are you at this at this time were you this? I don't know. Maybe a kid. I couldn't. 10, 12, 13? To sound good for this camera, yeah, 10.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Okay, gotcha. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. But it was some type of moment that I was like, I'm here to help all of these people around here. Wow. So then that program stuck in my brain to- You didn't care about the reward system of the neighborhood?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Like if there was a guy, like a drug dealer that had money, you didn't think, oh, I could do that? I've always was protected. Like the village really raised me. Like they say, you can always die in the hood and shit. Like I've never been like that because I've always been protected by the hood. Like it goes back to being a United Way nigga. Maybe that's it. The village always protected me.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Like if I've never had to, like somebody, like he might walk in there and they might, they poke their chest out. I never had to poke my chest out. Like I could talk shit. I didn't start offending people to Twitter because they couldn't see me. So before then, I'm not a threat. I can walk in a room and talk shit. This nigga just killed six niggas. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:07:28 I'm talking shit. And in my mind, I don't realize that I shouldn't be talking to him like this. But he's okay with it. He's okay with it. You see what I'm saying? So I've always been, they've always protected me.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And so I've always been that type of person. So it worked in my favor. I think what Mark is also asking, we hear these things, I grew up in the suburbs, you hear rappers be like, the only way you thought you could make it out of the hood
Starting point is 01:07:50 was selling drugs or playing ball or rapping. Yeah. Which was true. And you value that reward system. But did you feel like, I need to do these things to get out of here,
Starting point is 01:07:58 or were you like, no, that's not for me? I tried everything. When you were in the hood, I tried to play basketball, got cut, I was too little. I tried everything. I tried the band. I tried I tried to play basketball. Got cut. I was too little. I tried everything.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I tried the band. I tried football. Got hit. Then I joined the band. What I was great at, this is what I knew this was what I was supposed to do. We had pep rallies in school, and I used to be the dancing nigga. And I went out there, and I started. And when I heard that crowd reaction, I was like, that was my drill.
Starting point is 01:08:26 That's my drill. Ain't no high bigger than that to me. Yeah, it's true. Even that morphine, that's second close. Yeah, but it's not like that. To me, when I get that crowd reaction, it's like the world is hugging me. That felt like a God hug to me. And you got it.
Starting point is 01:08:43 You were dick throwing back in the day. Yeah, throwing dick. Throwing dick. Yeah, throwing dick and booty shaking what age where you did you start your dick throwing? The tender age of seven. Oh, wow Yeah, Wendy. What do you want some pussy come out? Getting hard at seven Yeah, shit like that. Your shit was getting hard at seven?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Throw that dick. No, I think the one he's just dancing. Just dancing. Oh, I thought you were talking about fucking. No, no. I mean, I ain't going to die. We ain't going to do that. I can tell y'all some stories, but no.
Starting point is 01:09:15 When did that song come out? 1987. 1987? I was 10. Two live crew. I was 10. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Wow. Hey, we want some pussy. Throw that dick. Yeah, we was wild back then. What do Wow. Hey, we want some pussy. Throw that dick. Yeah, we was wild back then. What do you mean? What do you mean? Throw that dick was a song. No.
Starting point is 01:09:32 What do you mean you were wild? I ain't saying that. You had a good time. Did you ever go to Freaknik? No. Freaknik was like clay era. So a little bit older. I was there, but I was so young. I went at the end when it was like 95, 96.
Starting point is 01:09:52 But it was popping like 89, 90, 91, 92. But I was more of the Daytona era. Daytona was 10 times. Like spring break? Spring break. It was crazy? It was called Black College Weekend, but it was no college kids.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Niggas and street motherfuckers. I never heard of them. You wouldn't have. I grew up in New York. What was the best HBCU in Florida? FAMU, if you ask me. But I'm biased because I'm a
Starting point is 01:10:23 FAMU guy and I'm from North Florida. I fuck with BCU now. They changed their name, BCU. Why was Daytona Black College Weekend so crazy? You trying to get me to talk. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Actually, that's the point of this whole thing, for you to talk.
Starting point is 01:10:44 We've been talking for an hour We had a good time I hate this I have to go pee since you're not saying anything Wow We had a good time Okay, so Young Age Real quick, so Young Age
Starting point is 01:11:00 You start to recognize that you want to help these people You're probably seeing something in the neighborhood. You're seeing something in yourself. There's a little bit of a difference. I see that I'm a reflection of everything around here. And I got the God gave me the way to articulate to people like you. But also to people like them. I think that you speak to everybody.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I know. I'm every nigga. It's all in me. Yeah. Did you just call me? We all in. It's all in me. You wanted to sing that one.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I feel like I'm every man. And I prove that by, I'm not one of the people that like to tell, I don't understand. I just show you and you see it. And social media helps that too because I don't have to say it. You will see it in me. You relate to something I'm doing. Exactly. You have like a Larry David quality.
Starting point is 01:11:52 You know Larry David, right? You know how everybody relates to his frustration because it's all of our frustrations. It's a human frustration. It's not a Jewish thing, an old white guy thing. It's just everybody. And I feel like you, when you you communicate it works in the same and i don't say like i do talk to y'all but i don't say this is for black people this is such and such i just show it you know i don't have to say i'm for black i don't have to say this is black on like yeah your protest is different yeah i i don't if i have to tell you
Starting point is 01:12:20 i'm black this black on you know what i'm saying? And we don't realize, and I learned this through Chris at MTV2, just like sometimes when you put a label on it, you block all this. Alienate people. Alienate. So like if a club say hip hop, if you ain't in hip hop, you're not going to go in there. You know what I'm saying? But if it just say club, you'll try it out,
Starting point is 01:12:42 and you never know you might like it. So that's how I treat everything. You know what I'm saying? I don't, even on my social media you'll try it out, and you never know you might like it. Interesting. So that's how I treat everything. You know what I'm saying? I don't, even on my social media, I try not to, unless it's something like it's a joke that works good if I just say it. But for the most part, I try to keep it to where it's just me, and then whoever draw to it is who come to it. Like, I don't, I didn't say I want to be, I want to get in the white world. You see what I'm saying? Like, most people in my industry, they try to get in the white world and such and such.
Starting point is 01:13:09 I've never wanted to do that. I've always been cool with it. If the worst case scenario, all I got to do is entertain my people, I was cool with it. But I also understood, too, we all the same. We all the same. And I learned that through, and I proved that through Buckwild when we did that show with the guy from Buckwild.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Yeah, yeah. I was like, this redneck is a nigga. You know what I'm saying? Niggas and rednecks is pretty much damn the same. Yeah. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:13:35 And we showed that through shit like that. You know what I'm saying? So I've always took that and everything, applied that. But I think a lot of times with people,
Starting point is 01:13:42 when they feel that sensation you felt, which is like, I shouldn't be doing this, right? Mm-hmm. A lot of times with people when they feel that sensation you felt, which is like, I shouldn't be doing this, right? A lot of times there often is like a resentment for the community, right? And this happens with, it could be a poor white dude who feels like he's
Starting point is 01:13:55 smarter than his community and he's like, I need to get out of here and I need to hang out with these smart people. Nah, I'm not that guy. I know you're not. I hate people like that too. I agree. I hate when my people, they get in and they shit on me. And they shit on, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I'm not that guy. I know you're not. I hate people like that too. I agree. I hate when my people, they get in and they shit on me. And they shit on you. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:08 I'm not that nigga. I don't, like if anybody, like Bootsy for example. If anybody should understand Bootsy, it's us. Yeah. No matter how y'all,
Starting point is 01:14:16 y'all can get offended all you want to, you can say, but we can't shit on our people. You know what I'm saying? Like I can't, because I understand it. It's like that drunk uncle. Like, you might got a drunk uncle.
Starting point is 01:14:26 You know he going to offend and such and such, but you ain't mad at him. Yeah. So that's how I see our people like doing. So when I see other niggas condemning somebody
Starting point is 01:14:35 that you know I coached you, you could call them and talk shit. But why would you do it publicly? What does that do? Yeah. It only benefits you if you do it publicly.
Starting point is 01:14:43 It don't help you. No, you let other people get in your ear. You let the battery get behind your back or let whoever in your world, like that circle niggas. I hate them more than all of them. I don't like the bougie fake niggas. You know what I'm saying? And why do they
Starting point is 01:14:58 do that? Because you gotta find a place of validation and comfort. It makes them feel superior to shit on these. Because a lot of motherfuckers, a lot of motherfuckers, not even just us, it's just you've been,
Starting point is 01:15:10 you wasn't shit when you was a kid. And now you're holding on to that. Yeah, now it's like being a villain. Revenge of the nerds. Revenge of the nerds is the realest movie ever. And people don't even realize
Starting point is 01:15:20 because that's what we live in now. Yep. Everybody with the money was all the nerds when we came up. And they got all the money. And now they bullying the way they were bullied.
Starting point is 01:15:29 They bullying. They bullying. Same thing with gays. We used to bully gays. Yeah. Now they doing all the bullying now. Yeah. And you can't be mad at them.
Starting point is 01:15:38 That's their get back. That's their get back. It's just, it's psychological. It's just like us over, we've been enslaved so long. Now I get back as fuck every such, such and such.
Starting point is 01:15:46 What do you mean on that? Explain that. As far as slavery and we hold it, you can't be mad at a person and say, man, y'all did such and such, because it's like a scorned woman. Even if she is wrong for the most part, or something she say, but it's the scorn, it's the bruises over time. The emotions. Yeah, it's going to stop you from having these connections.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And that's why I come into play to fix the scorn from my people. But you don't tell people, don't be scorned. No. You just go, let's enjoy life. Let's understand what's going on and bring perspective and don't point fingers on why we fucked up. Let's fix it. Yeah, nobody wants to be told not to feel what they're feeling. That's annoying.
Starting point is 01:16:29 But we can look at someone who's feeling good and go, I'd like to feel like that. What's he doing to feel like that? Because after a while, even through social media, after a while, you start, because even as a kid, you look at, I don't want to do this. I won't do that. I won't do that. And then you start seeing everybody around, and you see me. And you're like, this motherfucker been living like this nonstop for 50.
Starting point is 01:16:51 He must got something right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to pay attention to him. It take a little longer for him because they're going to go through this. Oh, he bought that money. You know, when everybody was like, all right, I'm going to be a businessman. Oh, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I'm going to chase this money. They did all that. Four years later, now they're all broke and struggling. Now they going to do this. I'm going to do that. I'm going to chase this money. They did all that. Four years later, now they're all broke and struggling. Now they're looking at me. What's the newest trend that you think is going to die out? You're really good at this, at pointing out trends. I don't like to knock it out because I look at it. It's a good perspective.
Starting point is 01:17:20 It's like the late night shows, the Jay Leno's. They always had that one motherfucker that didn't do shit but he was a problem that's how I look at them shits it's just like
Starting point is 01:17:29 they there for a purpose so you let them do they thing but they gonna they gonna die but you would call out like the chicks who had
Starting point is 01:17:38 the businesses oh yeah yeah I do that to piss them off like alright I'm finna show y'all y'all stupid ass y'all around here chasing this and that and y'all wanna start y'all. Y'all stupid ass. Y'all around here chasing this and that.
Starting point is 01:17:45 And y'all want to start your own independent business? All right. And then when it happens, I wait till afterwards. And then you start. And then I start. Remember I said this? Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Remember I said this? Boom. That's just a joke. So remember I said this right now that you can point to in five years and be like, remember I said that? I have to look on my Instagram because that's, I don't really keep tabs up until it pop up. Yeah. So I have that. I have to look on my Instagram. I don't really keep tabs up until they pop up. So I have to. You live in the moment.
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Starting point is 01:20:37 get the podcast and say it'd be perfect for me but i don't like to ramble a lot like that and i realized too over, that rambling can come back and eat your ass up. You know what I'm saying? A lot of times when I talk, if you ain't paying attention, if you want to be offended, you can. You can take it out of context.
Starting point is 01:20:57 I have to protect myself in certain type of ways, but I don't know. Just over time, I think I'm going to eventually get into it. The only reason I'm doing this now, that park, not yours, but the park that I got coming out is because of Clay and Charlemagne. Yeah. Because Charlemagne
Starting point is 01:21:15 gave me, I mean, the network then gave me the deal or whatever. Yeah. But I just said, fuck this shit. But by them being my friends, they understand me. So they waited out with me. And Clay convinced me to do it with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So I ended up doing it. And then he died. So now I'm doing it. To honor him. Yeah. And it's because they held me down. Dolly and what's her name? Because they could have took the money back, you know, that shit.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Yeah. But in general, streaming seems so popular right now. Oh, we got off track. I think streaming is like that because, like I said, people ain't got that much, I mean, ain't got shit to do. So a lot of people ain't got shit to do, so they just watch. It's something to do. So it's just boredom?
Starting point is 01:22:05 Boredom. You think people are bored? It's boredom, and I don't want you to do, so they just watch. It's something to do. So it's just boredom? Boredom. You think people are bored? It's boredom, and I don't want you to watch me while you're bored. That takes the mystique of power of who you are. Wait a minute. Explain that. You don't want people to watch you while they're bored. It's just like specials.
Starting point is 01:22:16 That's why I don't care about stand-up specials, because it ain't special no more. You watch when you're laying in the bed about to go to sleep. You want people putting on an outfit, going to the movie theater, making an event out of it. That's what made us who we are. That's what made Delirious great. That's what made all the specials great. When's the last time a special changed something? When's the last time a special really?
Starting point is 01:22:35 It don't do it no more. It ain't that no more. They're not saying you don't do it. It's like an album. It's like an album. An album don't have the effect it used to do no more. You know what I'm saying? So once I understood that, my specials, I've been putting out specials on twitter for 15 years so in all because what
Starting point is 01:22:50 specials did they gave us gave us um catchphrases and gave us shit that that implemented the the culture yeah what i've been doing on social media right so i've been doing it it's just we're programmed to think that's what comedy is and that's what that shit is, but it really ain't. We're programmed to think we want to be movie stars because that's where we came up in. That shit been done 20 years ago. You know what I'm saying? And I understood that 20 years ago. That's why I never chased that side of the world.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Dude, it's so crazy. I was looking at why you chose to get into hip-hop videos. such an interesting thing i didn't know that this was a choice i thought you just kind of like i don't know stumbled into it it's like i understood this is a yeah can you break down i understood early this shit is over with this hollywood shit and at that time too how did you know just just paying attention I mean what are you seeing? I'm just looking it's just like it's just like man
Starting point is 01:23:48 like people say the world fucked up but it can't be fucked up if you look they still building buildings here, there it's just money going somewhere you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:23:55 so it's the same thing in life so I don't pay attention to what people say I just pay attention to what's going on what's moving culture moving I'll just
Starting point is 01:24:02 because humans we just talking but we really are what we are so if you pay attention to the people going on. What's moving culture? Moving. Because humans, we're just talking. But we really are what we are. So if you pay attention to the people actions, that's what you'll find out. So that's what I did then. When I went out to L.A. and I started seeing what was going on,
Starting point is 01:24:16 I'm like, oh no, this shit changing. And then the internet started, social media started bubbling at that time. And then it wasn't, and then too, this was the main thing. TV, it wasn't no black shows on TV no more at that time. So this is what... The sitcoms was dying down.
Starting point is 01:24:34 So after UPN9 kind of started... Yeah, it started fizzling down. So you start seeing like... Where are the black people watching things? There's nowhere for us on this motherfucker no more. And then you're like, where are they? Where are they? They're in music videos then you're like, where are they? Where are they? They're in music videos.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Yeah. Like, where is our culture at? And so I'm looking at where it's making the impact. The impact was in videos. You see what I'm saying? Like, to this day, shit that's stuck in our head is mostly shit from videos. So I understood that. I was like, shit, I'm right here in the meat of this shit.
Starting point is 01:25:04 These motherfuckers love me anyway. Because most of the most of the rappers they would come to your they come to my stand-up shows Yeah, and so we already had that's why I came and see that's another thing too Cuz people start trying to do what I did, but they think they would stand up It was organic so it works for me like this. I am a hip-hop comedian, so it works for me I ain't trying to force it because I've seen it work. It is me. You know what I'm saying? And it was just time.
Starting point is 01:25:32 That's why I say the universe, God, it just all worked at the perfect time. You know what I'm saying? And I just rode with it. I trust the universe that it's going to work in my favor. So once I understood that, I understood, like, I'm going to go where people love me. And I went to Atlanta. I went back to Atlanta. Yeah. And I got on social media.
Starting point is 01:25:50 And that was another thing. When I got on social media, I was like, ain't nobody on this motherfucker yet. Yeah. And I seen this was the beginning. I understood, like, this is the future. And that's when I was like, I could be own hollywood right here yeah that's what i understood this is gonna be hollywood so i just started focusing on and then i understood like humans how their brains work and their kids people was kids on social media at first like i was
Starting point is 01:26:20 programming people how to talk on twitter because they didn't know or understand how to talk regular on Twitter. It'd be little shit like that. So I understood my power. Yeah, the only time they'd ever typed anything was, like, an essay. Yeah. So they hadn't typed in colloquial English. They didn't understand, like, how to transfer the dialect, how we talking now, to social media. It sounds easy now, but back then it was like people was really stupid
Starting point is 01:26:45 or something. You could tell a simple-ass joke and this was hilarious. Yeah, yeah, it was go crazy. It was like, these motherfuckers are kids now. Yeah, yeah. But the difference between me
Starting point is 01:26:54 and everybody, like I understood, I didn't use my shit for personal gain because I could have monetized and fucked over people and manipulated the game and became everything y'all seen,
Starting point is 01:27:04 like Worldstar or all that shit there. But I used it more so to say that I used everything to help our people get where we are. You know what I'm saying? So, like people say like they influenced by these other comedians, but if you watch them,
Starting point is 01:27:20 all of them followed my blueprint. For example? Oh, I'm just saying as far as everything that they successful is, it's from social media, from them building that social media and shit. You see what I'm saying? It ain't from them being them fucking movie stars. Who done made it from being a movie star in the last 10, 15 years?
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah, nobody. Even in the white world. Even in the white world, who done made it? No, you're right. Like, they think, like, I always hear them say, like, we don't have that much, there's not enough for the black community. It ain't nothing for nobody. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Everybody fucked up. We just take it personal. Yeah. We go through it. But you, I remember that time, you was, before this shit happened, you was like, man, this shit fucked up out here. I'm struggling. I don't know where to go. But people don't know that story.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Yeah. They don't hear that because they just think all white people got it easy. Yeah. But he was like, he didn't know where to go. But people don't know that story. They don't hear that because they just think all white people got it easy. But he was like, he didn't know where to fucking go. He was still trying to figure it out. But look, it happened. They only see the success. Because of the internet. Because of the internet.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah, I just really adopted what you were doing. He adopted it and he created his understanding. And that's why I get my gift. Yeah, man, you would hit me i you know i'd have some show or something like that and that's another thing that's dope about you there are certain people they're like they'll be they'll take somebody's influence like i took your influence right and then when they do something special instead of feeling good about that they'll be like angry or jealous and you you people will do that.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you would always hit me and you'd be like, damn, man, you're making me cry out here in the Bahamas or something like that. Yeah, because I love to see. That's why I do it. That's where I get my satisfaction from. Yeah, it was really cool. It ain't the money.
Starting point is 01:28:58 It ain't the success. I've had so much success. Now, ain't pretty much nothing left. Everything you could think you want to do, I did. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just like now I get my satisfaction out of watching people that. But what a great, like what a great. Even if they don't give me props.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Yeah. I just like to see it. It's just like you're seeing a kid like, look at this motherfucker acting like me. But isn't that like a genius move? Like think about that pivot, right? You go, okay, where is my community? Where are eyeballs? What are we watching?
Starting point is 01:29:29 Oh, we're not watching TV shows because ain't shit out there really for us. We're watching music videos, and the music videos are almost our stories. They're our shows. I'm going to integrate myself in this where I already exist. I'm friends with all these guys, and I'm going to be the thing I already am, which is hip-hop comedian. That takes balls. Most people are still trying to chase Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:29:48 They're still trying to do a TV show. Because that's what they're taught. They do what you taught. Like, you do what works. But that's genius shit right there. It's sometimes, and you might not credit yourself,
Starting point is 01:29:55 but genius is bucking the trend. Genius is doing the thing that nobody wants to do or nobody is willing to do. It's sitting right there and none of us see it. Even though it makes perfect sense. And the confidence to do it.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah. But it just comes from being simple. sense. And the confidence to do it. Yeah. But it just comes from being simple. I understand how to make it simple. However you want to describe it, what I'm saying is it's a very rare quality. It's easy to be second. It's easy to see someone do it and then do it after them. But it's very hard to be the first person to do it.
Starting point is 01:30:21 It's just trailblazing. I mean, it's just being a trailblazer and then being an explorer. Like, I hate being in a room and everybody knows something I don't. So I've always applied that to me. So it's like if I find out there's something going on, like when I got into aviation and I seen that whole world and I start putting to it, I'm like, this shit been going on 100 years.
Starting point is 01:30:41 I don't know not one person that really fly for real. That's what I'm here for. I'm here to show these motherfuckers we can fly. What about space? I want to go to space. That's, boy, that's my goal. That's the last one, right? That's the last one. I can't wait to do the selfie in the world behind me.
Starting point is 01:30:58 Shit on the motherfucker. I'm going to go live. That's when I'm going to go live. I'm going to go live on that bitch. And then after that, I don't know what the fuck To do with it Bottom of the ocean Would you do that? I've done that But like deep submarine? I got a submarine at the hot
Starting point is 01:31:09 But I don't go in It's the camera though But I want a submarine I want it I saw one But that shit cost too much You're not going to get scared Claustrophobic
Starting point is 01:31:17 I'm claustrophobic I'd rather go to space Than the bottom of the ocean Huh? I think so I'd rather go to space Than the bottom of the ocean Yes absolutely
Starting point is 01:31:22 Space is space I've been rethinking I've been rethinking the ocean for a second. I don't know. That might be a portal somewhere for real. What do you mean? I don't know. The ocean scares me, so I'm probably going to believe whatever you say. The ocean is something in there.
Starting point is 01:31:37 It's like Aquaman, the movie. That comes from something for real. That shit real down there, man. And when you go down there, scuba diving is what made me understand how dumb I was too. What do you mean? When I first went down,
Starting point is 01:31:51 I realized, damn, this is a whole world down here. Yeah. This is most of the world. 70% of the world or whatever is water and we haven't explored the majority of that 70%. You see that
Starting point is 01:32:01 and you realize how much you don't know. Yeah. Like, oh, no, I'm really dumb. Yeah. That's why I say we all dumb. Yeah. I just don't see it. What does dumb mean to you?
Starting point is 01:32:11 Does dumb mean just there are things you don't know? Yeah, we're all dumb. We're all robots, but we think we're smart because we think we put two and two together, but we're dumb.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we prove it every day because the robots are programming us. So you use the word dumb as just following, not acknowledging there's so much more out there that you don't know. I'm using like we don't control ourselves as much as we think we do. Right, right. We have a lack of autonomy. So what's that?
Starting point is 01:32:35 Autonomy. Yeah. That's dumb, ain't it? Yeah. We really wake up and do whatever we program to do. Yeah. The difference is I understand my programming, so I reprogram it. Before, like I could see it. I was like, shoot, boom, boom, boom, boom. All right, now I ain't even do. Yeah. The difference is I understand my programming so I reprogram it before, like,
Starting point is 01:32:45 I can see it. I was like, shoot, boom, boom, boom, boom, all right,
Starting point is 01:32:47 nah, I ain't finna do that. That's what self-discipline come in. What do you think about AI? Artificial intelligence. It is what it is. Like,
Starting point is 01:32:54 shit, I think AI is to connect us together and we gonna be superhumans. We gonna be like X-Men around this bitch. So you got, yeah,
Starting point is 01:33:01 best case scenario for you is the robots are best case scenario. It's gonna fix things. So I, nah, it's definitely gonna, I mean, it's gonna leave, it's gonna be like, So you got Oh really Yeah best case scenario For you The robots are best case scenario What you mean It's gonna fix things So I Nah it's definitely gonna I mean
Starting point is 01:33:07 It's gonna leave It's gonna be Like if you ain't got the robot Or understand It's gonna be like Not knowing how to read Back in the day You're gonna be really illiterate
Starting point is 01:33:15 Or out the loop Or either amish Or whatever the shit Yo that's Fucking fantastic It really is Because you If you don't have AI
Starting point is 01:33:24 You're illiterate. Mm-hmm. That's... Wow. No, I'm serious because... That's true. It is it. Because you got to think...
Starting point is 01:33:31 It's such an advantage. Just imagine you in a room and trying to go on against people that got this shit in their brain already. Yeah, forget it. You can't. You can't compete with a motherfucker like that
Starting point is 01:33:40 and he's saying, all right, I know how to do this, I know how to do that, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you think this motherfucker is a genius, but he got that chip in his goddamn brain. Yeah. There's people out here like that now. We saying, all right, I know how to do this. I know how to do that. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And you think this motherfucker a genius, but he got that chip in his goddamn brain. There's people out here
Starting point is 01:33:47 like that now. We just don't know it yet. I was walking around with them glasses for two, three years, the Ray-Ban glasses. Nobody knew. They thinking I'm holding my phone and shit. A lot of shit we don't know until. You don't get worried that the AI
Starting point is 01:34:03 will get too smart and take over humans? I think that's just where we're supposed to go as humans in the long run anyway. Like, because we really, this shit is just flesh. Like, we spirits more than anything. I feel like after a while, we're going to ascend from this little ragged-ass body of ours and go to there. And that's our way to go through through technology have you ever done ayahuasca no i don't need to because i mean ayahuasca bring you to understand you're already connected i'm already connected i already connect shrooms you love
Starting point is 01:34:37 though what do shrooms give you i haven't done shrooms since this accident honestly but shrooms shrooms what made me say oh no, no, I do know what I'm talking about. I know shrooms did, like, and it opened up like, oh, shit. Now, it made me realize a lot of, you're like, oh, shit, that was how they invented. They was on shrooms.
Starting point is 01:34:56 That's how that was, they was on shrooms. That, you know, shrooms just open up, any ayahuasca or the other, what's that, MDM? DMT. DMT, yeah. It just opens it up to understanding it.
Starting point is 01:35:10 But even to do them, you got to already be kind of there. You have to be willing to accept it. Accept it and see it for what, have a little understanding that it's bigger than who we are as humans. Yeah, there's something that when we were in the Bahamas, that you kept, stressing is the wrong word, but kind of pointing out. And it was like, when at night,
Starting point is 01:35:30 we, you know, looking at the stars, it was this constant, like, humbling. You're just like, look how little we are. Look how significant we are. That's what shrooms do. It shows,
Starting point is 01:35:39 it makes, like, you can't be arrogant on shrooms because you realize it takes it back to Hinduism. God, it's amazing. It takes it back to that. It's like, oh, no, this is what we're supposed to be doing. And I'm sitting in the grass with bugs all on me and I can't.
Starting point is 01:35:55 It's like, this is what it is. And that's when it goes back when I went traveling and shit. I want to say all pieces of the puzzle start coming together. It's like, oh, that's what I was learning over there with that god damn Hindu shit dude it was fun life is the best show ever if you're willing to watch it
Starting point is 01:36:14 that's how I look at shit from the outside looking in I'm just happy I'm a part of the characters but your character in it like watching your show is kind of funny because we would be walking, right? And you'd be like, yeah, man, my old lady don't like Asian bitches or something. Like, you just say something random, right?
Starting point is 01:36:36 And then I'd be like, oh, fuck, is that poison ivy? And you'd be like, yeah, it's okay. Just rub some of that leaf on it. I go, why? And you go, oh, nature always puts the cure to the illness right next to it. And you're like, what is going on right now? Like, do you remember telling me that shit? Uh-uh.
Starting point is 01:36:52 But that's true, though. You're talking about that poison oak. There was something like the cure was a leaf right next to the thing. I mean, not America. The world always gives us something. It gives us everything. We just lost it over time through technology, but it's right there.
Starting point is 01:37:07 Like, it's usually whatever the problem is, the solution right next to it, and that's in life, too. Damn, that's deep. I just thought about that. See, like I said, I'm not smart. This should just be coming at us from somewhere, but it ain't me.
Starting point is 01:37:23 I'm just happy they use, whoever uses me, uses me. I'm just happy whoever using me, using me. Do you ever feel like they were trying to silence you? Because I feel like there was a time where Instagram...
Starting point is 01:37:30 There probably was, but when you're on there forward thinking, you don't realize it afterwards and then you're like, oh, shit. But yeah, I mean... There was a time like
Starting point is 01:37:39 I was trying to follow you and then there was another page and another page and another page. But that was... I was just... Usually when shit happens, I'm usually the first that was, I was just, usually when shit happened,
Starting point is 01:37:45 I'm usually the first one. So I'm the collateral damage for everybody. So even when, I think I was on your show last time, I was like, everything y'all seeing happen now, it's going to happen to everybody else eventually in our culture. And for the last four years, niggas was getting deleted for just talking like niggas. So this is like a really, there's an important distinction here.
Starting point is 01:38:04 This exposed the problem with the lack of diversity, right? There were people getting kicked off Instagram, you, other black people getting kicked off Instagram for bullying, right? And they'd be getting kicked off for putting comments out there like, yo, you stupid. Yeah. Okay? yeah okay you stupid instagram would deem as bullying when anybody knows black people is the highest compliments when you make a joke but it was just the fact that there were no black people in there realizing that there were certain vernacular certain colloquialisms and that was when i was like oh shit there is a way now i don't know if it's done with nefarious intent i don't
Starting point is 01:38:43 know if the people at instagram were going, how do we get black people also? No, it wasn't that. I think it's more so when you get to a certain level, like Instagram got to a certain level to where they got to cater to the world. Right. You see what I'm saying? And so that little world that we in, it don't matter to them. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:39:00 Yeah. And I always knew that. And that's kind of not just Instagram. That's why I was always prepared. Like, all them Instagram pages I had, I was ready for that shit. That's why I was. I had, like, four Instagram pages before everybody realized I'm all the way off. That took two years. I was on that bitch for two years off a fake page.
Starting point is 01:39:18 I mean, I fake paid off my second, third, fourth pages because I was prepared for it for when it was going to happen because I already knew. This is like when Fox used us to build their brand. You know what I'm saying? I already understood. I understand our place in this shit.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Ha! Martin, living single. Yes. Back in the early 90s. And then now, you don't even remember. You just think of Fox as just conservative,
Starting point is 01:39:42 Republican, white. They say they do it to me. They use it to build. And that's our brand. Hip-hop builds shit. That's what hip-hop do. Hip-hop builds all these brands up. And then once they do it, all right, let's go on.
Starting point is 01:39:55 You see what I'm saying? Because that's what we good at. That's where I. Amplifying. Getting attention. Entertainment. Pure. Come watch this.
Starting point is 01:40:03 You're going to watch. Is that like a historical cycle? Like slavery? Y'all built everything. And then they're like, all right, well, now that Come watch this. You're going to watch. Is that like a historical cycle? Like slavery, y'all built everything, and then they're like, all right, well, now that y'all built it, get the fuck out. Yeah, where if you understand the game you're playing, that goes back to understanding. You know how they flipping and manipulate it, too. So you're not going to just use me. I'm going to use this to me as well. I'm going to use this, too.
Starting point is 01:40:21 So I ain't going to be that motherfucker that says, man, Instagram, Instagram, fuck. If you know, you was there. I've never complained about Instagram. Only reason I got my pay is because of Clay. Because remember, I was like, fuck it, woo the woo. He got it back. I really need it back because, like I said,
Starting point is 01:40:38 it's bigger than me. My page is really for our culture. That's really like our melting pot, whether the niggas realize it or not, but really that's where it keeps us all going, keeps everything going. You know what I'm saying? So it's bigger than... My page is really bigger than my... Twitter is really for me. Instagram is really for us.
Starting point is 01:40:54 You know what I'm saying? So... What you mean by that? I really enjoy talking shit on Twitter. Like, I really enjoy expressing myself. What y'all fake caring about today is my favorite tweet of all time. I can express myself and get it off and move on. You know what I'm saying? I don't care about it such and such that there's no censorship on it yeah you know what i'm saying so i love it i've always loved it like i never i'd probably be more hurt than if yeah yeah on twitter and i ain't even twitter ain't even got as much impact as
Starting point is 01:41:22 my instagram do you know what i'm saying? But shit, I just love it. Where does what y'all fake Karen about come from? Knowing people just be fake Karen. And why is it important that you show them that they're fake Karen? You don't have to show, it's just over time. Like my shit, you get over time because after a while,
Starting point is 01:41:40 you're going to get tired of me saying, damn, it's fake. Or you're going to come in a situation where it's like, damn, this is fake. I did not give a fuck. You know what I'm saying? Half the shit people that tried to counsel me, it was some fake can shit. Because after a while, they don't even remember why they didn't like me.
Starting point is 01:41:56 But they don't realize they probably could have fucked my whole shit up. You know what I'm saying? But being the type of person I am, the way I'm programmed, and understanding how much power I have in the universe, nothing can affect me. I'm really a superhero out this bitch without the AI yet. So watch when I get the AI. It's over. Stay woke.
Starting point is 01:42:16 But are you a superhero, or is it because there are people that really fuck with you that makes you the superhero? It's both. That's why it works for both. When the accident happened, that's when they helped me. You know what I'm saying? Because they understood what I was giving. They gave it back.
Starting point is 01:42:29 When people were trying to cancel you, there were all these people supporting you. Supporting me. You know what I'm saying? So it always works. In the universe, it gives, it gives back. So you would get the Neuralink, or you would get some type of brain chip if it was available? I don't know about that Neuralink. I'd need a couple people to die first, but
Starting point is 01:42:44 I'm going to get whatever that's going to be out at the time that's normal that seems comfortable enough. Why not? What's stopping us from not doing it? I'm not going to be Amish.
Starting point is 01:42:56 Amish? What is it? Amish. I'm not going to be that motherfucker out here. And where I live in the islands, that's about as Amish as I'm going to get.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Yeah. To me, on that island, it's like, if I don't need it over here, I don't need it. So that's why I programmed myself to be like, just in case I don't want to go too far left, I can still deal with this shit. What do you think about America, living in
Starting point is 01:43:19 America, the future of America? I'm curious all your thoughts, because I think about this a lot. I think America in the beginning stages of where we're going to be is who we are. Everywhere we, Asia, that's pretty much what it is. Whatever going on over there, that's kind of like, we think we are here, but we're really behind. You know what I'm saying? Really?
Starting point is 01:43:39 I think so. As far as where, with China and Russia, financially Russia and just socially China. We move more and more. Think about it, they socially awkward, who are the most socially awkward people out there? You're saying that we're just gonna get there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:59 They're already there. They're already isolated. Yeah, they already there. They already what they are. They already super robots. You see them vibe moments when they doing this shit. They already there. They're already super robots. You see them vibe moments when they're doing this shit. They're already there.
Starting point is 01:44:09 You know what I'm saying? We're at the beginning stages of all this shit. Even in the economics or whatever, business, we're still at the beginning stage. And do you think we're all going to eventually become
Starting point is 01:44:19 those robots? Yeah. And is that something you... We keep saying robots and it's not robots the robots is just enhancement it's like no no no it's like a viagra when i say robots i don't mean robots i mean like do you think that all the decisions will essentially be made for us and we'll just have no autonomy because that seems to be what you're saying right now is like you are
Starting point is 01:44:40 deprogramming yourself and that you're going to make the decisions about your life and do what you think is best instead of having these trends decide what you do. Yeah, yeah. That's how you're supposed to do it. That's how you're supposed to do it even before all that shit happens. Before you get affected by the world, you understand the world and build your own world, like an ecosystem where none of that shit is going on out there. Don't even bother. They do that in Florida. There's so many communities, already small communities,
Starting point is 01:45:08 where they have their own world. Bro, that's the thing about Florida, where you saw Florida. I think black people in Florida were the first black people to openly support Trump. And to me, I'm like, oh, they're operating in their own community. They're not worried about what the world might
Starting point is 01:45:26 think of a black person supporting this guy who is called racist. We don't, it ain't so much like we right or wrong. We just say what the fuck we want to say. That's just Florida motherfuckers and we get a kick out of it. But now everybody gets a kick out of it. Yeah, because that's another thing. You know what I'm saying? Like the trend
Starting point is 01:45:42 started there. Florida, in America, if you want to see the future, go saying? Like the trend started there. Florida, that's in America, if you want to see the future, go to the Bay or go to Florida. Wait, really? Yeah, the Bay gonna tell you
Starting point is 01:45:50 the technology future. Florida gonna show you the streets. Wait, really? So the street shit starts Florida always. That's why I say I was in the perfect place,
Starting point is 01:46:00 Florida. That's why everything I am, I'm the coach. I'm the coach of everything. So I might have a heads up already because where I'm at. It's like God put me in a perfect place. I got a question. You ever seen a ghost?
Starting point is 01:46:13 Never. Do you believe in ghosts? If I did, I probably did. I would accept it, so I probably did, but just looked at it like, that's a ghost. I ain't fucking with that motherfucker. Some shit like that. I can't say off the top of my head where I just saw like a real motherfucker just appear. That?
Starting point is 01:46:31 Do you think aliens are real? That wasn't a ghost. I think that was a lady that God used and it's like, I ain't done with him yet. You think aliens are real? Yeah. I mean, we would be arrogant to think we the only motherfuckers on Earth. Do you think they're here? Like, you know, when-
Starting point is 01:46:48 I think this shit is so- We so far behind in the universe shit, they probably look at this shit- They're bored. Yeah, it's like, why would we want to go there? Yeah. These motherfuckers just learning how to fly. Yeah. We still don't know-
Starting point is 01:47:01 Fly yet. Like, so, I don't- Okay, two things. We still don't fly yet. I just think there's a whole other entity or something beyond our brains. Can't even see it, maybe. Yeah, we don't realize how dumb we are. We really are dumb. Think about the shit 20 years ago. We thought we were so smart, and now this shit is simple.
Starting point is 01:47:21 I was just talking to a guy about this, about germ theory. We didn't know about germs until late 1800s, 1900s. Let's use something simple. Yeah. Bro, I was just talking to a guy about this about germ theory. We didn't know about germs until like late 1800s, 1900s. Yeah, shit. Let's use something simple. This is where I come in. Yeah. Car. The engine in the car.
Starting point is 01:47:33 All them components in the engine. Now you got a Tesla. Only thing you got in that bitch is a battery. Yep. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? We could have been there that shit 50 years ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:43 But we was too stupid. We wanted to overthink it. Yeah. Well, over time, we started realizing, we ain't got to do all that. Take that out. Yeah. Take that out. Take that out.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Use this. Boom. Simple. Okay. Two things. One, your daughter is how old now? 16. 16 years old.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Okay. is how old now? 16. 16 years old. Okay. Moments in her life that you really wish that you had paid more attention or focused more.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Like what happened? You have 16 years of experience in something that I have one month of experience. So I just want- There ain't no blueprint to this shit, bro. Not how to do it,
Starting point is 01:48:23 but like what are some things that were just really special moments that you were glad that you were there, really glad that you were present, glad that you did not miss? I just came to everything I could. And like I say, technology worked in for me perfect. When I couldn't be there, the FaceTime. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Technology is really great, bro.
Starting point is 01:48:44 It works in your favor a lot, especially nowadays, the way we move and shit like that there. So, and then the bonding from day one, a lot of stuff, I didn't have to be there as much as I wanted to be. Because the bond was built early.
Starting point is 01:48:56 The bond was already built and I've always was in her life. And me being me kind of worked in my favor because now I'm like, I'm cool with that. You know what I'm saying? Kids don't cool with that. You know what I'm saying? Kids don't listen to parents. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:49:08 But unless you somebody, unless they look up to you like that. You know what I'm saying? Most of the time when we look up to people, we look up to people we want to be like. We don't really want to be like your mama or dad or some shit like that, where we came from. So for me being who I am, and I guess her friends or whatever, it worked in my favor, because that's her dad or whatever.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Right. So it makes you proud. Do you think she's as wise as you were at that age? Wiser? You know what I mean? The shit that's me is, I'm not, I don't, it ain't me, bro. I can't put this on anybody. I don't think everybody that's me is, I'm not, I don't, it ain't me. I can't put this on anybody.
Starting point is 01:49:46 I don't think, everybody that's like me, they get it. You know what I'm saying? But I don't think it's supposed to be in her. What I, is the understanding I get. Does she know you love her? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, she knows. I don't even have to question that.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Now I'm at the stage, now I want her to, I'm just trying to get her to understand, because she's real carefree like me. I don't need her to be like that. I need her to get more hustle in her. So now I'm just getting her to where she, the good thing about it, I guess she do got understanding because 16, I always tell her, you know you're about to be grown.
Starting point is 01:50:23 You're going to be 18 in two years. But she was like, I ain't ready to be grown. She was like, I don't her, like, you know you're about to be grown. Like, you're going to be 18 in two years. But she was like, I ain't ready to be grown. She was like, I don't feel like you should be grown until you're like 30. Wow. Which makes a lot of fucking sense. So by her just understanding that, it makes me like she do got a little understanding. She understands that she ain't there yet. That's a wise thought, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:44 So I guess she is wise. Okay. She's still got a little bit of me. And then final question before you go. Any regrets in your life? Nope. My shit is the best show ever, man.
Starting point is 01:50:56 I ain't got no regrets. And then the little shit is just like, I should have did this. But it don't be shit. You know what I'm saying? It's just little shit. I shouldn't have tweeted that.
Starting point is 01:51:09 Some shit like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I ain't no, hell no. Like, I can't think of a bad part of my life. Like, all that shit been good. Even the accident. Now that I'm healed now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:22 It's like, damn, that was a good part of the movie, though. If it was a movie, that would be a good part. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Outside of that, nope. Do you think you've achieved your purpose? I think I'm living in my purpose until he's ready for me, until it's time for me to transcend to whatever's next. But I just think I'm living in my purpose purpose and I ain't got no goals.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Like I ain't got like, all right, I want to, as far as in the entertainment, I feel like I'm living my goal every day. Just being who I am and being a person I want to see change in the world. And when I see the world change, it's just like, I feel like that's how God is. He's like, look at this. Look what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Look what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? Look, look what I'm doing. Look at it.
Starting point is 01:52:08 And I ain't getting nothing out of it. You know what I'm saying? Cause shit, I could make billions, but it ain't nothing in there for me like that. It's more satisfaction than watching. Fair enough. Little Duval,
Starting point is 01:52:20 ladies and gentlemen. Thanks. Let's go.

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