Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Andrew Tate ARRESTED by Greta Thunberg?
Episode Date: January 4, 20230:00 - Tory Lanez is in....trouble 6:55 - Tory Lanez hit up Schulzy’s DMs, or did schulz slide first? 11:00 - akaash thinks ALL women’s lives matter 13:55 - is andrew tate’s castle even really a... castle? 15:10 - andrew tate got hit with the Romanian RICO 19:17 - Top G needs to start appealing to Top Bs 40:50 - schulz always knew crypto is a ponzi scheme 49:17 - if your dumb friends are making money… it’s a trap 53:48 - schulz is the best landlord EVER 1:07:45 - will andrew tate go to jail? 1:09:46 - SBF’s gf is a worse snitch than tekashi 6ix9ine? 1:17:17 - akaash would be the first to get his cheeks clapped in jail 1:23:54 - would you rather get bopped 10x or bop someone once. 1:29:58 - Cristiano Ronaldo secured the €200m saudi bag 1:49:29 - who spends the holidays with their family?? That’s weird. 2:00:44 - psychic schulzy almost died surfing…AGAIN? 2:07:33 - Costa Rica is the coolest country in central america 2:13:20- schulz’s stomach is the FDA 2:22:27 - mexico is the GOAT 2:25:45 - akaash’s existential crisis: there’s not enough Indians at the st regis 2:34:30 - time with family is the family is the real Christmas present 2:35:51 - dov was rizzed up in Colombia 2:42:20 - tourism should always benefit the locals first
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What's up, everybody?
Welcome back.
Happy New Year.
Yes, we did it.
We're having fun in 2023.
We did it.
It's 2023.
The vibes are immaculate, dude.
Listen, a lot of big stories out there.
Yeah, a lot of stuff.
Tori Lane's in jail.
Yeah, I thought you were going to say innocent.
Tori Lane's in jail.
How would you guys think I was going to say that?
I guess it started with in.
You put an emphasis on the in there.
Tori, Tori, oh, I did.
In jail.
No, Tory Lanez in jail, as he should be.
Yeah, yeah.
Because you can't shoot black women.
No.
Protect black women.
You can protect black women.
Any woman.
You can do whatever you want to white women.
No, that's not true.
Andrew Tate just got to jail Navy.
He's doing Alex Media.
He's doing a quick 30 30 You know what I mean
In a European jail
That's true
All I'm saying is
He's doing hard time
He's doing hard time
If you shoot a black woman one time
You doing jail time
Yeah
If you imprison
And maybe
A bunch of white women
Around the clock
And then monetize it
and start your own university.
If you start your own university
teaching young men
how to f*** white women
allegedly and make money
on the internet.
All right.
Okay.
Then you get 30 days.
Maybe 30 days
before we can figure it out.
What are they going to figure it out? It's white women? Then you get 30 days. Maybe 30 days before we can figure it out. What are they going to figure it out?
It's white women?
Then he gets off.
If it was a black woman, you think he's getting off?
Absolutely not.
You think if Andrew Tate had black women in there, he's going to get off?
Hold on a second.
You think for a goddamn second, Alex.
Wait, which getting off are you talking about?
He ain't getting off.
Neither.
That's true
he ain't getting
neither
do you think
if Andrew Tate
had black women
in his sex castle
in Romania
that sounds like
an ill resort
yeah
is that a
tourist attraction
because Andrew
you'll see him
like in some
of these things
and the way he
talks is wild
because it's about
white women
no notices
but he's like
I could just
go to Slovakia and I could grab a couple women and bring them back here and then make some money.
And it's like, bro, if you said this about any other color, it'd be a little crazy, right?
You can't just go to Ghana and come back with three black women.
No.
Probably not.
No.
But that's also been done before.
People might not say anything.
There's a historical precedent for that being fucked up.
Oh, you think that white people have been slaves?
I'm sure they have.
They don't get the same PR.
You know what I mean?
Why not?
Probably because they also did a lot of enslaving.
Because the blacks were the fucking media.
That's what it is.
Dude, the BM?
Are you talking about the BM, dude?
The BMs, the black media, bro.
It is crazy.
Black media.
The black media.
Coming up in a world, baby.
Let's go. I'm telling you, man. The black media is a powerful in a world, baby. Let's go.
I'm telling you, man, the black media's a powerful thing.
You can't even shoot black women.
No, it's crazy.
Dude, you can't even be a Canadian guy shooting black women, dude.
Isn't that fucking nuts, man?
Do you think he's guilty?
Who?
Tory Lanez.
I know.
You know?
How do you know?
Welcome to now.
He's guilty. Oh, we're recording this today? Yeah, we're Welcome to now. He's guilty.
Oh, we're recording this today?
Yeah, we're recording this today.
He's guilty of shooting Megan Thee Stallion.
Did you listen to the apology?
The apology video?
Whose apology?
Tory Lanez.
First of all, you was not right.
Yes, I was.
No, you were.
Yes, I was.
What did you say?
What did you say?
I had the closest to what happened in that car.
Do you have gold teeth in?
Yes.
That was good.
Do you have the rest of your pants?
Come on.
You ain't giving me much to work with.
It's so 2022, bro.
I was looking at it.
Your shirt's wrinkled.
I'm like, damn, he looks good.
He comes back all happy looking for a vacation.
I'm like, I've got shit to work on.
I expect stuff a little better.
You were in survival mode.
Admit you were in survival mode.
There was a fucking, what is it when the snow comes where you were?
Avalanche.
Avalanche coming to you, right?
And then you had to stop it.
I felt it, you know?
So you went back to 2022.
Old shit.
When did you get those in?
Over the break.
And how did they do it?
You have one. Say it? You have one.
Say again?
You have one.
Paul Wall made us grills.
Paul Wall got you one.
Oh, yeah, used to have a grill.
Paul Wall made us grills.
What are you talking about?
Well, maybe I'm trying to set him up for a joke.
You think I'm a joke?
Maybe that's what I'm trying to do.
Maybe I'm trying to ask him questions I know the answer to
so I can set him up for a joke for the comedy podcast.
Yeah. Yeah.
You just prevented me from getting
dunked on, man.
No, go ahead.
Knock it out of the park.
You got it.
Okay, okay. Where were we?
We're talking about Andrew Tate. Yeah, and how
he was right about Tory Lanez.
What did Andrew say about Tory?
What did you say?
What did I say about Tory?
I thought...
You thought he was going to get off.
Listen, I get all my information
from Grand Wizard
and DJ Academics,
and based on the information
that they were putting out,
it looked like Tory was coming.
Instagram journalist misled us.
The Instagram journalist...
This is the only time
I've been furious
at Graham Wizard, bro.
I've been promoting him
every single week.
He got me out here
thinking that this black woman
that got shot's a liar.
You thought she was
a white woman for a long time.
No, I didn't.
No, you didn't.
I didn't do that.
Mark, you go too far now.
I thought you didn't say that.
Mark, you went a little
too far with that one, bro.
You said,
oh, I thought Meg Thee Stallion
was a white woman.
No, Mark. And that's why Tory's going to get off. I, oh, I thought Megan Thee Stallion was a white woman. No. Mark.
And that's why Tori's going to get off.
I remember you told me that.
I remember you called her a white stallion.
I think I remember that.
You were saying that white stallion.
You called her a show pony.
You called her Megan Thee Show Pony.
You said that.
Megan with an H.
Wow.
You said that.
I love white women.
I'm trying to free the white women in Tate's Castle.
Wow.
Respect.
I'm Mario.
I'm Mario.
You look like Mario. Yeah, you look like Mario. It's a me'm Mario. I'm Mario. You look like Mario.
Yeah, you look like Mario.
It's a me.
It's Mario.
And I'm going to Romania,
and I'm going to free the white women from the castle.
You were right about Meg Thee Stallion.
Yeah.
What were you right about?
No, he actually told me,
it seems like the internet's saying he's going to be innocent,
but I think he's going to get found guilty.
He said that to me.
And I said that I think they got into kerfuffle
in the car.
And then I think Tori...
Kerfuffle's a funny way
to warn him.
Now he's convicted
of shooting a woman
and you call that kerfuffle?
No, no, no.
Just say altercation.
Altercation.
Who fought, did you think?
Tori and Mick.
And then Tori saw
that he couldn't beat her,
so he took out a gun.
That's what they were
kerfuffling about?
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
He's not saying what caused the kerfuffle. What he's saying is they got
into a physical altercation, and then Tori
realized, I can't be a stallion. Because there were
pictures of their body. They all had bruises.
They were in a heated
fight.
Meg just sitting like this, fucking
teasing up to him, punching down.
You know Meg wasn't like that. It was more like...
You know, Kelsey was bruised that. It was more like... You know,
Kelsey was bruised up too.
Kelsey was bruised up too from Tori.
Apparently,
Tori was beating on her.
Ah.
I thought the girls were fighting.
Yo,
it turns out
Tori's kind of
a piece of shit.
Who would have known?
I should have known
when he DM'd me
to come on the pod
and I was like,
buddy,
we're going to have to talk about what's going on
and then just
looked at it
never responded
I didn't know this
right then in that moment
I should have been like
hey he might have
shot that woman
there's a good chance
he might have shot
the woman
wait a minute
when did this happen
I don't know
he DM'd me
I didn't tell you
about this
no son
let me go look
Chelsea be having
the blue checks
in his DM's boy
I know doesn't even I mean honestly so far No, son. Let me go look. Shelsby having the blue checks in his DMs, boy.
No.
Doesn't even body.
I mean, honestly, so far, so far.
Oh, I DM him.
My bad.
Come on, bro.
Come on, bro.
Yo, why that toy not like you can see it anyway?
It's ass locked up.
I think they get Wi-Fi.
Yeah. Yeah, but he was down
I go yeah
this is the man Curly accused of shooting
this is my team
yeah
legend
you did not say legend.
Let me see.
No, he said legend.
I go, legend.
We getting a pod in or what?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
He goes, we got to do it, my bro.
Where you at?
I go, NYC.
We would love to.
I think you're unreal.
I go, I think you're unreal talented at music Which is true
I go now your people don't want us to talk about
The stallion situation
I go we're not a gotcha podcast
The goal is to have fun
But we have to at least acknowledge
Acknowledge what?
That you definitely shot the fuck out of that black horse.
You did not say that.
Scene, no response.
Reasonable.
Reasonable.
I'm siding with Tori on this one.
Nothing else, but this one, I'm with him.
Can I tell you something?
For this one, yes.
For this one, a million percent.
No, I go, I go, I go.
But we have to at least acknowledge
that we're not discussing it
or we seem inauthentic.
And I don't want us to seem inauthentic, obviously.
But then, obviously, seeing no response
because he didn't want to talk about
what really happened.
He knew we were going to get
to the motherfucking truth.
That brings me to Andrew Tate.
Do you know why you thought he was...
I feel uncomfortable with your fucking teeth
all this goddamn time.
Do you know why you thought he was innocent? Do you remember this? teeth all the goddamn time. Do you know why you thought he was innocent?
Do you remember this?
Why?
You go, Tory Lanez is innocent.
We're like, you said it on the pod.
I said he's in jail.
I said Tory Lanez is in jail.
Eight months ago when all this happened, we go, why?
And you go, he's at the nightclub the next day.
I was like, what?
And you were like, look, he's smiling at the nightclub.
There's no way he did it.
That's the kind of...
He put out an album.
He's like, no way he's going to put out new music.
How could you? He defied out new music. How could you?
He defied all the expectations.
How could you?
How could you not have that
just grinding away in your mind?
Why are you acting like
you didn't think he was innocent?
MJ killed his wife
and then played golf.
Yeah.
This is what,
hey,
this is what criminals do.
And he got off.
White woman. Oh, hey. Hey, good point. criminals do. And he got off. White woman.
Oh, hey.
Hey, good point.
Yo, look at that.
I'm right on that.
You can shoot white women.
You can shoot white women and you get off.
Well, OJ didn't shoot, to be fair.
Say again?
OJ didn't shoot, to be fair.
Come on, bro.
He was respectful.
Yeah, you're right.
That's a lesser crime.
Well, we don't know if he did that.
We don't know if he did it.
No, he didn't.
He technically is innocent.
Unlike Tory, he's innocent.
Who's technically guilty.
Who is technically guilty.
And Bill Cosby,
who is technically innocent.
He was guilty.
No, he was guilty
and then let off
on a technicality.
So technically innocent.
No, he's not innocent.
Still technically not guilty.
He's not guilty.
Technically not guilty.
Case thrown away.
So he's back to innocent.
I don't know how the math works out, but I think... No, no, no, no, no, no.
Because you're innocent.
Don't prove a guilty.
He hasn't been proven guilty.
If you carry the one.
If you carry the one.
Come on.
Do they have that in Romania?
I don't think so.
You know, Cosby's victims mostly were white women.
Exactly.
You can...
The shame, the absolute shame in the world that we live in today is you can do almost
anything to a white woman and you will get no justice whatsoever.
It is a travesty.
We got to stand up.
We got to protest.
Protect white women?
Yep.
White women's lives matter.
White women's lives matter.
Yep.
Yes.
That's facts.
That's facts.
Are you going to march with us?
You know what I say to that?
All women's lives matter.
What are y'all going to do?
What are y'all going to do?
What are y'all going to do?
Tell us. Tell us. to do? Tell us.
Tell us.
Tell us.
Tell us.
That's true.
No.
But right now we're focusing on one woman's life or one group of women's lives who seem
to be more affected than the other women's lives.
Yes, what you're saying is true, but we just want to put some focus on the ones that look
like that.
I personally just don't see color and I want to focus on all women. Yeah, but I feel like you're doing it to undermine but we just want to put some focus on the ones that look like that. You're just saying it as a reaction. I personally just don't see color, and I want to focus on all women.
Yeah, but I feel like you're doing it to undermine what we're trying to do over here.
No, I don't think I am.
No, I don't think I am.
Can you also at least acknowledge what's happening to white women?
I acknowledge what's happening to all women.
Exactly.
Do you, though?
Hey, hey, guys, I get it.
I get why you do this.
It's fun.
It's a fun position to take.
All women's lives matter.
You know what?
You're a Nazi.
Nazis, yeah.
You're a Nazi.
Yeah.
You're a fucking Nazi.
You're a Nazi.
Yeah, you are, you mud-fucking Nazi.
And I've got a spade.
I've got a spade.
You're a Nazi, bro.
That's Nazi shit
that you were just doing
right there.
We're trying to save
white women.
Look at what's happened
to white women in the news.
They were in a fucking castle.
I believe in your cause.
I believe in your cause.
What are you going to do about it?
I'm going to donate money
so you can buy some mansions.
Wow.
What are we going to do
with those mansions?
Stuff more white women in there
where they can get
fucking sex on camera?
Let's go.
I like your style. Dude, what does Allah say about that? stuff more white women in there where they can get fucking sex on camera? Let's go. It's not like you're stuck.
Let's go.
Dude, what does Allah
say about that?
What does Allah say
about making money
on sex and casinos?
Because I don't think
Allah's into gambling.
I think you're supposed
to share the money equally,
right?
Because if you have
multiple wives,
you just got to give them
the same amount of money.
That's where Tay fucked up
because he apparently
kept all the money.
But is Allah cool
with making money off of sex work?
I don't think so.
I feel like if there's one God,
then he would be cool with it.
I mean, it was the oldest profession,
so he kind of like started it, no?
Well, I don't think he started it,
but he's been there.
He seemed it.
He seemed it.
Watch yourself out.
Watch yourself out.
You just said some wild shit.
That's staying in. Watch yourself out. You just said some wild shit. That's staying in.
Watch yourself out.
You just said some wild shit.
That's staying in.
Watch yourself out.
Hey, hey, hey.
Remember when we were going to go live?
We should have.
We should have.
Because everybody would have been a lot better if we went live.
And now everybody just shooting from the hip.
Okay.
That wasn't one?
Shooting from the hip?
What'd I do?
Because you know Tori's hip height?
Yeah.
I know what joke you're making.
Oh, that was actually a good joke.
That was a good joke, bro.
That was a good joke.
Chosen one.
Anyway.
The point I'm trying to make is we're talking about Andrew Tate.
Listen, there are people that come to this podcast for information.
Can we just get the facts right?
Yeah, for facts and information.
Andrew Tate has a castle.
Yes.
Okay.
Does he not?
Yes.
Maybe.
I don't know if it's a castle. Is it a castle? It's a compound at least. It is a compound. It's a home. Yeah. He has a... does he not? yes maybe I don't know
is it a castle?
compound at least
it is a compound
it's a home
he lives somewhere
what makes it a castle though?
say again
what makes something a castle?
it's in Romania
yeah that's what I was going to say
does any house in Romania
yeah
Dracula's house
castle
castle
what makes a castle to you?
I don't know
like spires
made out of stones
and shit
Bob Gage's dad
dude yeah a drawbridge what are you reading Architectural Digest? yeah do you do all these things castle to you? I don't know, like spires, may have stones and shit. Bob Gage's dad, dude.
Yeah.
A drawbridge.
What are you reading,
Architectural Digest?
Yeah.
Do you do all these things
when you make a sand castle
on the beach?
You put a little drawbridge in there?
You put a moat at least.
It's not a sand castle
if there's no moat.
There's got to be spiky parts.
You don't think it's a castle
if it's not a moat?
He probably got a moat.
You think he has a moat?
Come on.
And there's got to be defense.
There's got to be a defense system
like turrets.
There's some type of place
you can shoot arrows
or drop tar. He's top G, bro. Son, what's up with him? He's his own defense. There's got to be a defense system, like turrets or some type of place you can shoot arrows or drop tar.
He's top G, bro.
Son, what's up with you?
He's his own defense.
I don't know if he has those things.
I'm saying if it's a home,
if it's just a regular domicile,
I don't know if it's a castle.
Can we just first acknowledge
that we're boring the fuck out of the audience right now?
I just think if we're going to talk about castles,
we should be specific.
We walked up.
We walked up.
Dove just left.
We can't just call any old thing a castle.
Walked out of the fucking room. We can't just call things cast thing a castle, okay? We can't just walk out of the fucking room.
We can't just call things castles.
Okay, okay.
So we won't call it a castle.
Andrew Tate.
Is a legend.
I mean, no, no.
Andrew Tate.
So Andrew Tate is in prison for 30 days.
Yes.
On what?
Not sex trafficking.
That's what everyone thought at first.
They thought it was sex trafficking.
Organized crime allegations, correct?
Connection to what? The mafia. Yeah it was sex trafficking. Organized crime allegations, correct? Connection to what?
The mafia?
Yeah.
Is that it?
Organized crime, so yeah, I guess you would believe mafia.
Okay.
But there's a few allegations.
They've been investigating since his last arrest in April.
Mm-hmm.
Allegedly, one of his women that was making like $55,000 a month on the cams that he was forcing to work
said she didn't make a dollar off of it, so that's sex slavery, I assume. She wasn't a top earner. Measly $55,000 a month on the cams that he was forced to work. Said she didn't make a dollar off of it. So that's sex slavery, I assume.
She wasn't a top earner.
Measly $55,000.
$55,000 a month, bruh?
Come on.
That's $700,000 a year.
Come on, step it up.
Okay.
Step it up.
Okay.
That's top B, I think.
What else?
What else?
So also there was four people arrested.
Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, and then two other Romanian women, apparently.
And they said one of the suspects, they didn't say who, but I think raped a woman twice using violence and then psychological abuse or something like that.
I don't necessarily—
These are the allegations.
Violence seems like the more pressing—you know what I mean?
And are they saying one of the two people they've detained is accused of doing that?
One of the four people they've detained.
So it could be the women, which I doubt.
Or Andrew or Tristan.
Yeah.
Right.
These are the allegations.
These are the allegations.
Okay.
Okay.
This is big.
Yeah.
This is big.
I thought Greta Thunberg put him in jail.
That's what everybody thought because the timing was dubious.
That's what I believed.
Because he was talking that shit to Greta, and then they said that they used the pizza boxes in his retaliation video to prove that he was in town, and then they arrested him.
Apparently, that's bullshit.
Yeah.
Apparently, that's not true.
Okay.
Which is one of those things that when you hear about it first, you're like, whoa, that's so crazy.
And then after you think about it—
It would have been so funny.
Yeah, there's no way they're watching his streams like, we got him!
They just can see his passport when he got in the country and they're like, yeah, he's here.
Or just drive up to the castle and see if he's there.
Yeah.
Right?
You just knock on the door
and be like,
okay,
is Andrew here?
Yeah,
there's got to be other ways
for the government to know
if you're in the country
other than like,
you ordering like pepperoni pizzas.
100%.
Okay,
so what do we think?
The Thunberg thing was funny
as fuck though.
What the?
We just never seen Andrew Tate
take an L
and then to take it
from Greta Thunberg
was so funny.
not a good look.
Well,
I don't even know why he picked that fight.
Isn't that like a pretty bad chess move?
His dad would be disappointed.
But I feel like people take shots at her all the time.
But he like went specifically at her
about global warming.
And then it's like, dude,
you're picking a fight with a teenage girl.
If you win, what do you get?
You dunk on her.
Is everybody going to celebrate?
Or if she dunks on you,
is the whole world
gonna be like
this is amazing
you know what I mean
it was a stupid move
and I really think
that was the first time
we saw him fall
and then that made
the jail thing more like
yeah dude
it's ready
I feel like somehow
we're more like
okay with it
because we saw him
take that blow
yeah
I mean yeah
I love
trying to dunk
on Greta Thunberg
I don't know what you're talking about at all the whole point of this podcast Yeah. I mean, yeah, I love trying to dunk on Greta Thunberg.
I don't know what you're talking about at all.
The whole point of this podcast is almost dedicated to dunking on Greta Thunberg.
No, no, no.
I even think a few made it to the Netflix special. Where did you go on vacation?
Where did you go?
Son, you tweeted at her or you tweeted at a bunch of people
and then Thunberg was a part of it and you made fun of a thousand people?
I made a tweet to Greta
like the day before
he did
yeah what was the tweet
I'm pretty sure
like a video
I posted some kind of story
or something like that
maybe she doesn't think
you have small dick energy
maybe she thinks
you have big dick energy
that's also possible
you know
it is what it is
I did something
maybe it was a tweet
maybe it was something
oh yeah I saw somebody
like save the fucking
I saw somebody save
oh no the guy planted the most trees ever.
It was like some Canadian kid planted 23,000 trees in a day or something like that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, we got actually a lot of tweets about Greta.
Oh, yeah.
An insane amount.
Now that I'm looking at it.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Listen, I love it.
I love it.
She didn't give you the energy, though.
Why do you think that is? She don't want to smoke. She knows what time it is, bro. She doesn't want you the energy though. Why do you think that is?
She knows what time it is.
She doesn't want to smoke.
That's a greenhouse gas.
You know what I mean?
That's true.
I see that.
Yeah, I don't know.
With the Andrew Tate thing,
you know what's interesting?
I was watching this talk that he did
with, fuck, what is this girl's name?
She's a redhead.
Pearl.
So it was Pearl and it was Brittany Renner.
There was another girl and Andrew Tate.
I saw a couple clips from this.
Yeah.
And here's the interesting thing about Tate.
Tate has really fascinating observations
about gender dynamics.
I know this is going to sound crazy
if you're someone who's never ingested his content
besides like the most salacious shit
that comes out on TikTok.
I was one of those same people.
And I'd always hear people copping pleas for him going,
no, he makes some really good points.
And I'd go, it seems like he's just saying
the wildest shit possible that's also funny.
Like, what are you talking about?
He also makes good points, right?
And then I saw him in discussion with these women and now I understand what they're saying. He has really interesting
observations about gender dynamics. And the problem is, and I don't know if it's a problem,
I'm projecting what I would want if I was in his situation. Maybe he wants this exact thing. Maybe
he wants to be talked about nonstop and he wants the excitement and the chaos that goes on with being one of these incredibly politicized figures. But the problem is the way that he delivers his
information, and maybe this is because of the algorithm, it is indigestible to women,
and it is candy to men. The people that actually could benefit
from a lot of things
that he says
are women,
but they'll never
be able to touch it
because the way
it's communicated
is for men.
And I know this sounds crazy
if you haven't watched
long-form conversations
of what he's talking about.
Can you give an example?
He's just talking about
the importance of status.
There was a really good one.
Status.
Status.
He was talking about a really interesting thing
with Brittany Renner. Brittany Renner has been very public
about all the guys that she's been with.
He was talking about
why this would be very difficult for a man.
Because
when he's with you, he's
competing with all the people that you've slept with.
And the reality of she's fucked all these NBA players,
these like super rich guys,
these rappers and all these things,
the guy that she settles with
might not be as rich as the NBA players,
as famous as the rappers,
as talented as any of them.
So he might always feel insecure.
And if it's your job to make your man feel like the king of the rappers, as talented as any of them. So he might always feel insecure.
And if it's your job to make your man feel like the king of the household,
and he can't because he's constantly competing with your past,
he's always going to feel that insecurity and then treat you based on that insecurity.
And it's a really interesting argument for the idea of having either a low body count or just being quiet about your body count.
It's one thing to fuck a lot of
rappers and have a pass and do all these things, but you displaying it on the internet, writing a
book about it, telling everybody puts you in a position where you might be alone because there's
not going to be a guy that's going to want to put up with that baggage. Just to round out the point,
regardless if you agree with it or disagree with it, that information is probably valuable to a lot of women growing up today that are like running with the whole thought is a personality identity.
Yeah.
And sharing all their exploits online.
And then they reach 30 and they're like, why am I alone and single and nobody wants to put up with me?
I think that this is just one of the arguments he made, and he didn't make it in a way
that was like really insulting or degrading to women. It was just like a really interesting
observation about gender dynamics. And I'm sitting there and I'm going, wow, like the people that
would benefit the most from this are not men because we know it. We feel these things innately.
Maybe he can package them in a way that we go, oh, that's how I feel. But we feel these things already.
The people that would benefit from this
are the women that don't understand
why men feel certain ways about certain situations,
why we don't want to know necessarily about your past,
why I don't want to know a single thing
because I don't want to start competing in my head
with these people that exist for you already.
They'll never be able to digest that
because of how polarized he is. And he chose to be that
polarized.
The genius of that, I think, and this is
where he can be so smart, is
rooting it in a vulnerability.
Which is true. It's based on our
insecurity. And when you present it that way,
it's so much more palatable.
And he can do that whenever he wants to. And we've always said
this. The thing that separates him from everyone else in that
world is he can package his points smarter than everybody else.
He's just the best at packaging it.
And I personally think he doesn't mind all the chaos in the same way that he has the same superpower that Trump has,
that I guess we say Jay Paul has, where it's like, look, I don't mind if you hate me.
I understand as long as you are talking about me, I'm going to get where I want to go.
The tricky thing is, is once he gets there, is he going to want to pivot to more nuanced points, which he's clearly capable of making?
Or like packaging them in this really like nice, vulnerable, like, holy shit, we could all learn something from this guy kind of way?
Or is he going to be like, well, I got to do what's made me get this famous and stick with that?
He's good at packaging it for men, though.
Yeah.
Like he's not good at packaging it for all people.
And I kind of.
I don't want to interrupt you.
Go make your point.
Make your point.
I guess I just look
at all media
or a lot of media
like that where like
you know if you listen
to like a right wing
commentator there's
probably some truth
to what they're saying
in specific instances.
But they're packaging
it for their
But they're packaging
it to get views
and make money
rather than to
actually impact change.
Like if you're trying
to hit the people
that need to hear it
the most you try
to wrap it in a
conversation that's palatable to those people. Like I thought that dude Emmanuel Acho Yeah. to actually impact change. If you're trying to hit the people that need to hear it the most, you try to wrap it in a conversation
that's palatable to those people.
I thought that dude, Emmanuel Acho,
when he was doing those uncomfortable conversations
during COVID, during all the BLM stuff,
he was making it to be like,
okay, this is going to be approachable
for white people to listen to, blah, blah, blah.
And he wasn't trying to make it vitriolic
just to appease a black base
to be like, okay, let's make money.
It seemed like he actually wanted to impact it.
It's what we did with Turn Your Phones. We specifically
did them in a way where it wouldn't
alienate either side of the people
that felt a way about this issue, but also
spoke to the things that they were feeling.
It's really hard to do.
It's much harder. It's way easier
to just fall into the comfort of the
people who already support you. The unfortunate
part of that is that you lose out on the people
who actually need the information. It's like what I was talking to Jordan Peterson about. And I was
like, my only issue, Jordan, with you going with the Daily Wire is that the people that actually
will benefit from your information are the people who would never consume something on the Daily
Wire, which are the people who might lean way more left. They could probably benefit from the
things you're saying and the way that you articulate things
and the way you present your arguments.
They're really sound,
but just having that label is going to make them go,
oh, Ben Shapiro, right-wing, super conservative.
I don't want anything to do with it.
So I agree with you in terms of my first understanding of Tate
was just the clips that went,
he was saying salacious shit,
and I was like, oh, this guy's a piece of shit.
I was like, this is actually bad
for relationships and men
and women. And then
hearing that podcast, I was like, okay,
some of your ideas, I get it.
And he is right about
I wouldn't say a lot,
but he is right. But then he
packages
it in this surface level
way of thinking
that is like
if a guy hears
it's like yeah
yeah
and then for women
just like oh fuck
I just have to just
deal with it
and like the type of things
he'll say is like
you know if you're a top G
I should be able to just
sleep with women
and like you just have to
take that
you have to
and it's like
and he'll package these
I thought the conclusions
of it were misguided but the information might have been somewhat true
he's also speaking from an emotional place so we all know how we want the world to be yeah but
we're also limited by like primal emotions yeah of course? And he's speaking to how a behavior that a woman exhibits could make a man, her partner, feel.
And then how he feels is going to indicate how he behaves in that relationship.
And that's important shit.
Because if you look at every one of these female magazines, why he acts like this when, why he pretends he's tired when, why he doesn't want to sleep.
It's a bunch of women telling women how men act and why they act.
And now you have a guy doing it, but he's doing it in a way where no women will ever want to listen when they could really benefit.
At that point, let me ask you this.
That point, actual question, how would women receive that poorly?
Would it just be I don't have to deal with your insecurity or what?
I thought he articulated the points really well for women on that podcast
specifically because
he was talking to all women.
And that's what happens
when you reach across the aisle,
you're forced to sort of
compromise on some
of the crazy stuff
to make it approachable.
But when you're just
in your own little echo chamber,
you don't have to do that.
When you have four dudes
that are going to go,
just cheer you on,
yeah, you got that shit.
You go crazier
and your emotions take over.
And when the environment
is created so that you're supposed to dunk on these girls.
Like, for example, Tate on Fresh and Fit or whatever.
The environment is, hey, dunk on these girls who aren't ready or equipped for these arguments.
When he's talking to those four girls who all have thought about their arguments,
have thought about their positions, and have thought about why they feel that way,
now he has to come more nuanced.
He's going to get pushback.
It's not going to be some thot
who's thought about her eyelashes all day.
It's going to be a girl who's sitting there going,
my life is tough because of this,
and I need to know why.
And you saw Britney kind of open up
and almost ask for advice.
I saw that clip, actually,
and then I saw the Clementine clip,
which was funny,
and he gives her half the award.
But that clip was also interesting
is the girl who had Tate on
found him funny, and I think that was also interesting is the girl who had Tate on found him funny.
And I think that was also disarming.
Like you could tell she had,
she's like, let's have our fun.
You're a fun guy.
You're a funny guy.
And I think it also created an environment
where it's like, hey, we can all talk here.
Who's that? Pearl?
Pearl, yeah.
But she's a big fan.
She's a super fan of hers.
She's like red pill girl.
Oh, she's a red pill girl.
Yeah, like she's,
I think people would call her like the Tate,
but a girl. Oh, okay. Yeah, pill girl. Yeah, like she's, I think people would call her like the Tate, but a girl.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, which is like a very interesting position
to be in.
It's almost like Candace Owens.
You know, it's a weird thing
to compare to,
but in the same way
where like you yield power
because at least a guy
can watch and be like,
see, a woman gets it.
Because you speak
to the other side.
Exactly.
Where white people
can look at Candace
and be like,
see, black people do.
Okay.
Be annoying.
So I had put up just like a little poll on my story, just a little excerpt from the podcast.
And I asked people like, how do you feel about this?
And I just wanted to get their responses.
It's so crazy how different based on gender people like.
What was the excerpt um it was about like uh men just wanting a woman to like
i think either be agreeable or like less pushback and less battling or whatever the case is and it's
like i would say half the women who responded didn't even take it in they're just like takes
a piece of shit fuck yeah they're not gonna listen yeah the other half is like i kind of see what
he's saying but no guy every guy would get bored with that woman and would eventually leave and want to cheat on him.
And then all the guys are like, he's speaking facts.
And I'm like, whoa.
Here's the thing about the agreeability thing.
First of all, it's great.
My wife got pissed at me once.
I was walking on the way home and i
was like man i hope we agree tonight like i was dreaming about agreeing right like now now here's
the problem like i wasn't going i hope we fuck i was gonna hope dinner's great i was like i hope
we agree like i just want to walk in the house and be like, it was cold today. And I just need her to be like, yes, it was cold.
And I'm like, well, for this time of year.
So I understand the idea of agreeability.
I understand.
Can we just get a normal temperature?
Just 72 is good.
Just put 72 and I promise I won't say anything else about it.
Okay.
So here's the thing.
Ready?
With agreeability.
The problem with agreeability
and then never ever expressing your opinion,
at least for someone like me,
is that I will lose faith
that that's how you actually feel
and I will feel more insecure
that you're just bending to what I want
and not being who you really are.
So now I can't trust your reactions and I can't trust your emotions.
If I can't trust your emotions or reactions, I feel more insecure.
And I kind of feel like I can't trust you, period.
So it creates—
Just to give a bit more nuance, he actually said he doesn't want to push over.
Okay.
Like he wants somebody to have their own viewpoint,
but on little things like the temperature
or what we're going to eat tonight.
Yeah, he right.
That motherfucker right, dog.
Hey.
Hey, how much that university?
Because men do want to feel like,
hey, we're leading.
Trust us that we're leading us in the right direction.
And it's like if women just give you
pushback every step of the way it's like oh you don't trust me yeah and that's how we feel women
are just like no i'm just voicing how i feel or i'm voicing my opinion or whatever the case is
and it's like that's just i just saw with the responses the clear disconnect of that topic
and then sometimes women feel like if they don't give some pushback or some reaction,
they don't have a voice at all.
And when you feel like you don't have a voice at all,
sometimes you amplify your voice about everything
to make sure that you have a voice to you.
Yeah.
Right?
So now we're in this situation
where it's truly just ego.
A man's ego going,
I want to feel like I'm the man of the house
and a woman's ego,
well, I don't want to feel
like I'm nothing in the house.
I feel like a typical
50s woman with no opinion
and no freedom.
Exactly.
And this is where I think
you get the pushback
towards feminism,
at least from like
the Redfield space,
which is like,
they're going to go,
feminism has made you think
that you have to have
an opinion about everything
and give shit and if not,
you're getting walked over
in your house.
And it's like,
yeah, the most extreme version of that, but
the opposite is you're just sitting there
like a little dove, quietly,
not saying a single thing, and now your man is feeling
insecure. Are you even happy? Do you like
it? How often do you want to go get something to eat?
Sure. What do you want?
I don't care. We don't want that shit.
What do you want? I don't know. That's not what you want
at all. That's the worst.
I like it when my girl is sure about the things that she,
it makes me feel confident when my girl is sure about the things that she likes.
Because I know when she's happy about something, it's real.
I need to be able to trust your emotions.
I need that.
So that's the other, the problem with the other extreme,
which is like the red pill extreme is,
you could create a person where you can't trust anything that they say.
If you can't trust anything they say, that's no foundation for a relationship.
But yeah, I think it's also on the man to open up the conversation.
Like if you are, quote unquote, leading in your relationship,
and I don't think every relationship needs to follow the same exact thing necessarily,
but if you are in a relationship where the guy's leading and the girl's sort of like in a,
I guess, I don't know, like she's following your leadership, you need to open up
that space and be like, hey, how do you actually feel about this and create an environment where
she's able to talk freely. Like if you've created it where you don't like listen to her opinion,
or if she voices something and you just like shut it down, that's on you for creating a hostile
environment for her to share what she thinks. And if she raises her opinion and you can't tell her
why, this is why I think long-term this is the best move for us, that's on you.
If you can't communicate what you think your vision is and why it's that way and why you're going to get there with this route, you probably don't deserve to have it.
But then he was saying he doesn't want to always have to explain every single fucking thing.
I'm signing up for Hussey's University.
I'm absolutely doing it.
Don't think I'm not.
So we read Pillow Love.
I'm orange at least.
But it is the power of communication.
Yeah.
It's like if his career was built on only going on female podcasts, explaining these principles to them, there's a different version of Andrew Tate.
And I don't know if it touches many guys.
That's, yeah.
I don't know if it touches many guys.
I don't know if it's as big of a version.
And it might not be.
And it might not make the views.
It might not do it.
It's like, even with the episode that Pearl put out,
I think the name of the episode is,
Tate Destroys Feminists!
It's just like, and I get it.
You're tapping into the algorithm.
We all tap into the algorithm.
The problem with that is you're isolating the people
that actually would benefit from the message through that algorithmic cocoon that's created.
It's just every dude that just wants to see feminist, oh, it's clicking that.
Instead of a few women that are like, oh, wait a minute.
Is that why my boyfriend or my husband reacts with such insecurity when I do that?
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
And just because they do doesn't make it right.
But at least you know why they have that impulse Yeah. Oh, fuck. And just because they do doesn't make it right, but at least you know
why they have that impulse.
That's really important.
It's not necessarily you.
It's shit baked in our DNA
from fucking millions
of years of evolution.
Yeah.
I guess it's also
the intention of the message.
Like, he might be packaging it
incidentally the way that he is
because he's just going
based off how he feels.
But if the intention of it
is like empathy,
like with this Brittany Renner thing,
I haven't seen the clip, but if the feeling
is like, oh, let me actually help you,
I think the message is interpreted completely differently
than if the intention is, let me dunk you.
First thing he says, I'm pretty sure, is you're right, there is a double
standard. He says it's
unfair. He says it's unfair,
which is even more like, but he doesn't say it like,
fuck you, yes, unfair. He's like, no, you're right, you're right
to feel this. It is unfair. Here's why we think
it's unfair. And it's like, oh, that.
But again, he's so funny and
so good at creating gravity.
And the best way to do that is by being funny and being salacious.
I think the reason he rose like
a comet is I got to be salacious
and I can back it up with comedy and packaging.
So the question I have is if you're
making so much money from Hostos University,
if you're,
which he is, and if you're famous and
people love you and people are into what you're doing, you're getting a deal, I imagine, from
Rumble, you're making tons of money over there, why even dabble in the shit that could get you
arrested like you are now? Why haven't you still continued to do that?
I think that, I think it is old shit.
So this is coming from like years ago? I thought this was coming from a few months ago.
No, I think he like once Hustlers University blew up,
like he stopped all the sex.
All the sex.
I don't know if that's the case, but that's what I'm saying.
I think the allegation, I mean, the allegation,
the first one, April 22nd, I think, whatever,
April 2022, they got him arrested.
A girl flew out from America.
And then I think her parents called the U.S. Embassy.
Like she's, for whatever reason, they reported him.
But that's when it started, and I don't know.
I think allegations are from still around that time, I think.
Because I think they've been investigating him for nine months.
I could be wrong on this.
Yeah, he just talks about, like, the sex hotline.
Like, that was something he used to do.
Yeah.
It doesn't seem like he still does.
Okay.
Well, that seems like it's mostly money stuff.
Like, I'm assuming he's getting paid all through the internet,
making all his money through Hustlers University,
getting paid in the United States technically, blah, blah, blah,
and shuffled some numbers around,
and then now the Romanian IRS is going for him.
Yeah.
That's what I'm assuming.
I mean, that's who always gets you.
Yeah.
I mean, isn't that, what's his face, Al Capone?
Al Capone.
Yeah, you get everybody who does the, you know,
yeah, you get all the mafia dudes with the money shit.
Because they're too insulated.
You're not going to get them with the murders.
You're not going to get them with the,
maybe the racketeering a little bit.
I guess Rico is the charge that they use now to do it.
I don't know if they even have Rico in Romania.
What do you think of the way that Tate's framing
all of these things that are happening?
So like, I saw him saying a bunch of reasons.
Like, okay, look, they canceled me once.
And I know that I'm, that's bad.
And I'm intimidated by that because you get three lives.
They cancel you, and then they put you in jail, and then they try to kill you.
And I've already lost one of my lives.
And he said this like a few months ago.
And he goes, I just want to let you know, I will not kill myself.
I am not going to kill myself.
I mean, to me, I think it's brilliant marketing, right? Which is you already know that there's an investigation going on in you.
Obviously, if he's as big as he is,
if he's the top G in Romania,
he has people in probably the police department
or their version of the FBI or whatever the fuck it is
who are like, yo, there's an ongoing investigation about you.
You know they're eventually going to go back to jail.
So of course go on all these platforms
and then say, the Matrix is coming for me.
Is it the Matrix or is it the motherfucking police
that have said,
hey, we're building this case against you?
You know what else?
To that point,
when I was looking for-
It's like Tory going,
listen, the Matrix is after me.
I mean, I know I shot this woman in the foot,
but the Matrix is conspiring
to put me in prison.
Yeah.
I was looking for that
Greta Thunberg tweet to send you guys
and I was looking at his Twitter
and I don't know if he's always tweeted like this,
but it seemed like it was a lot of like
super red pill shit.
Like if you wore a mask, I stopped being your friends.
If you got the vax, we stopped being friends.
You're a follower.
And it was like super speaking to that group of people
that if you know you might get arrested,
they're still going to ride with you.
And you can say it's a conspiracy and it's the matrix.
And this group of people is completely going to believe you.
It seemed like it was shifting that way
because he might've known some smoke was coming.
And maybe that's why he went at Greta, actually, in the long term.
He's like, look, let me go at this global warming,
let me go at the super left, I mean, super left
to get the super right to like me.
So when I get arrested, I can say it's all conspiracy
and they're going to ride with me. Maybe.
Yeah. I mean, it's classic storytelling.
Yeah.
It's the classic hero's journey.
Yeah.
Like an individual, you know, sacrifices. An individual sacrifices himself to protect a group
from a, what is it, like a tyrannical leader that's abusing their power selfishly. And yeah,
you could just find it over and over in every single story, at least Western stories.
Does he stay in prison, you think? I think.
He gets convicted? Or like with money charges, is it just going to be
like tax evasion, pay the fine?
I imagine, with a guy who
makes money internationally, it is incredibly
easy to pin tax evasion.
Yeah. Especially if you're
making money through crypto shit.
I mean, I think he was making
some money through crypto. Somebody shit.
You're making money through...
I saw a wild thing on crypto.
I got it sent to you.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
The price of it?
No, it's just crypto.
It's what we always knew.
It's just a Ponzi scheme.
It's technology for a Ponzi scheme.
It's what we always knew.
No, no, but we always knew it.
We always knew it, bro.
Tori was guilty.
When I was buying it in that moment,
I knew this.
Well, listen, we buy into Ponzi schemes all the time.
We do it all the time because we're greedy.
And we just want to make sure we get there before the rug's pulled out.
But, like, the thing about the crypto thing is—
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's a fact.
No, everybody wants in on the Ponzi scheme.
You just don't want to be left with the bill.
Right.
But everybody wants in.
Everybody wanted in with Madoff.
You don't think these people knew?
They're not dumb. Some must have. Like, Madoff. You don't think these people knew? They're not dumb.
Some must have.
Like, they all knew.
I don't think they all knew.
Buddy, buddy.
They all have access
to the same tools, right,
for their trades.
Every one of these hedge funds
have access to the same tools
and find the way.
There's no way that Bernie Madoff
and three other people
have found some crazy new way
to make 15% every single year.
They know there's some
wild shit going on.
They don't know it's necessarily a Ponzi scheme like that, but they know there's some wild shit going on. They don't know it's necessarily a Ponzi scheme like that,
but they know there's some corrupt shit going on.
They're like, listen, I don't got a deal with this.
You handle the biz.
Pay me my fucking money.
That's what it was.
They might have known there was some shit going on,
but I don't think they thought it was an actual Ponzi scheme
and their money's out there.
It wasn't that extreme,
but nobody was surprised something illegal happened.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
They were just surprised they lost all their money.
Yeah.
But they knew that something illegal was happening, right?
So, I'd say the same thing with crypto.
It's just like, this is the thing that I was watching the video, and they said this brilliantly.
It's like, you know how they're like, crypto, it's going to replace the internet.
It's a new thing.
It's like, crypto's been around for, what, 13 years?
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
When the internet was around for 13 years, what could you do with it?
You could do emails.
You could look up the fucking weather.
You could transfer information like you've never had before.
There were websites with actual, there was actual things built on the internet that were utilized by us to improve our lives.
Crypto's been around for 13 years.
Nothing's happened.
Not a single thing has happened besides other ways to create Ponzi schemes.
So it goes, Bitcoin, right?
Then it goes, okay, anybody
can make a coin after Ethereum comes out and
use Ethereum's blockchain to create your coins.
So now everybody just creates a coin, so more Ponzi schemes.
And then they go, okay, fine. They're realizing it's a Ponzi scheme.
NFTs! They pivot
to NFTs. New Ponzi
scheme, NFTs are done. Web3!
Sell land that doesn't exist. Ponzi scheme. It's just new Ponzi scheme. NFTs are done. Web 3. Sell land that doesn't exist.
Ponzi scheme.
It's just new Ponzi schemes
over and over again.
They're going to come
for you for this, bro.
The matrix is going to come
The young people
that's on are dying right now.
The matrix is going
to come for you, bro.
It's true.
And I knew it
from the beginning.
I was like,
it's just Ponzi schemes.
But I did,
and I lost the most.
Just let me know.
I only bought at the high.
You at least had a moment where you made money and you felt good.
Never one time in my whole existence with crypto have I made a penny.
I bought at the high.
It went down.
I bought at that one.
It went further.
I bought at that one.
It went further.
Hey, guys, that's what you shouldn't do.
I'll buy your Bitcoin if you want.
I'll buy your Bitcoin if you want. Say again?
I'll buy your Bitcoin if you want.
You buy it at my original price.
Why the fuck would I ever do that?
Pussy.
Pussy.
It's going to go to 100K.
It's going to go to 100K. You don't believe in a pussy?
Is that why I don't go buy it on the regular Coinbase?
Why would I sell it to you now?
I could sell it to anybody.
Dumbass.
Yeah, so sell it.
Fucking idiot.
I could go right now and just sell it.
So sell it.
You have to give me a reason.
I'm the dumbass? Yes. I'm not the one who only bought it at 60. But why did go right now and just sell it. So sell it. You have to give me a reason to send it to you. I'm the dumbass?
Yes.
I'm not the one who only bought it at 60.
But why'd you say, I'll buy it from you?
Like, I can't just sell it.
Because, you know, we're making content.
You know, we're doing the thing.
Anyway, so look, anytime, if you're willing to buy it, my original price is I'll sell it to you.
But if not, no.
So the point about the crypto thing is all it is is one
Ponzi scheme after another. And it's so funny and it's good. Ponzi schemes have existed forever.
We're going to keep on making them. It is what it is. But you think they'd make like one piece
of technology that like offered utility, like even like the smart contracts, right? They're like,
oh, it's going to replace contracts. You don't even need lawyers anymore. It's like, no, you
fucking do, asshole.
You need a judge to look at the contract and look what
both sides signed up for and see if one
side was violated or the other side was violated.
You still need a human to look at it.
This contract that's on the blockchain
isn't going to do anything to stop that. It's a
Ponzi scheme. Now,
it's not attacking on you.
No, I would say nobody ever,
I don't think anybody ever said crypto would replace the internet.
It literally was the marketing for every single,
this is more impactful than the invention of the internet.
This is the new internet.
Well, more impactful than the invention of the internet,
I don't agree with, but it's not replacing the internet.
Well, Web3 is supposed to replace the internet.
Web3, okay, fair.
Which is?
Yeah, okay, I guess that's, okay, fair.
I see what you're saying now.
But I just thought Bitcoin could replace money,
and I still think a universal currency could happen,
especially if we go metaverse and live online and all that shit,
which I don't think you think is going to happen.
But not decentralized.
Also, the wealth of crypto is more centralized
than any money that exists on the planet right now.
The amount of people, like, you can actually look at the amount of people
that are holding Bitcoin.
There's nothing decentralized about it.
There's like 10 fucking people.
The mining is not decentralized.
Half of it happens in China.
Half of it happens in South Africa.
It's like the biggest fucking lie has been told to us.
And because we were making a little money, we're like, I'm not going to look at any of that shit.
But we all knew it.
You could very well be right.
I'm pushing back based on what I'm hearing, but I'm not going to act like I know the most.
I assume they mean there's no, what is it,
IMF or whatever the, what's the international bank?
That's what they're saying when they say decentralized.
There's not people who can just come fuck with the value
and inflate it and deflate it however.
They can't make more whenever they want to.
Well, they can, depending on the coin.
With Bitcoin, you can't.
But with the other ones?
Yeah, with the other ones, absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
We bought into all that.
I'm not saying Bitcoin is the best or whatever. FTX can just make it disappear. Yeah, that the other ones, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. We bought into all that. I'm not saying Bitcoin is the best or whatever.
FTX can just make it disappear.
Yeah, that's true.
That they did.
It's just like there's no rules to this shit.
That they did.
I'm just saying, it's fucking...
What was this YouTube video, bro?
I gotta send it to you.
Jolte with a Wi-Fi connection is crazy.
As soon as this guy gets on YouTube,
if you get a good documentary in Jolte's hand,
you are famous.
Tomorrow,
you're going to be famous.
Schultz watches your documentary.
James Janney.
Thank you for that.
Yo, that's my boy.
He's fire.
Yeah.
See now?
Yeah, I love that shit.
That shit is fire.
James Janney, brilliant.
James Janney.
He's got amazing ones.
No, no.
It's a great...
It's an hour.
See?
That's so funny.
I didn't know it.
That's hilarious.
See how this is?
You watched an hour? That's my tape. James Janney's my tape. Whatever? That's so funny. I didn't know it. That's hilarious. So you watched an hour?
That's my tape.
Whatever that motherfucker says is true.
I believe anything James J.D. says
because I already agree with it.
So once you satisfy the feelings I already have,
you're brilliant.
That's how people work.
You didn't know that's how people work?
If I feel something,
and then you tell me a smart way
about how I'm right about my feelings,
you're smart.
That is entertaining Cain.
Andrew can make fun of your friend.
You can dunk.
Women won't give me their pussy
because all they care about is money.
That guy's on it.
Let's go.
That guy's a genius.
Andrew Schultz dunks on Akash Singh.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
No, this is not an attack on you.
I don't hold you responsible.
I'm attacking you.
I am attacking you.
Our greed is what's responsible.
I still believe, so I don't feel attacked. No, no. Let me say this. Let me say this. I'm attacking you. Our greed is what's responsible. I still believe,
so I don't feel attacked.
No, no.
Let me say this.
Let me say this.
He's right to believe
because another,
I'll say this,
because another wave
of the greed will happen.
What I'm saying is,
eventually,
you're going to have to get out.
It doesn't have to be this wave
or the next wave
or 10 waves, right?
But eventually, there's going to be a time where you have to get out. We got't have to be this wave or the next wave or 10 waves, right? But eventually,
there's going to be a time
where you have to get out.
We got to get you
a documentary, bro.
We're going to show you
a documentary.
If you even look at
all the propaganda
and the language,
it's brilliant.
The language is all propaganda
and the people
don't even realize it.
They go,
diamond hands,
hodl or whatever like that,
hold on for dear life.
All these terms are used
to trick you
into keeping your money
in the coin
so these other people
that are waiting to rug pull
can inflate it enough
so they can get their shit
out immediately.
It's just genius.
And then people identify
with the terms like,
oh, dude, you have paper hands,
you fucking pussy.
Give me paper hands.
I wish my hands
made of paper.
These diamonds are making me broke. Those are not diamond hands. You don't hands were made of paper. These diamonds
are big in the world.
Those are not diamond hands.
You don't know how
to get into your phone.
I got the cubic zirconia
right now.
You don't know the password
in your phone, bro.
First of all,
they are diamond hands
because diamonds
have no real value either.
Okay.
That's a good ass point.
Tell your wives that.
I already did.
So yeah,
it's just, again, I think that you will make money.
I genuinely think you will.
I just think stuff is worth as much as we think it is.
He genuinely does not.
No, no, I genuinely think.
I want to be the narrator of this podcast.
Put it this way, put it this way, put it this way.
I think that there will be another opportunity for you to make money.
Whether he takes his money out or not, I don't know.
And will he be happy for him when he makes all that money?
Well, here's the other thing about that.
Buy back.
He's going to buy back.
He's going to be mad.
Wait, he's making money? No, no, no.
1,000%.
This is the trickiest thing.
This is the new flying cars.
No, no, this is the trickiest thing
about Sam Bankman Freed.
Yes.
Sam Bankman Freed is a villain.
He's a villain to all the people that lost money with him.
He is the most evil person on the planet.
To the people who never invested in crypto and saw idiots get smart,
and saw idiots get rich for no reason, he's a hero.
He's a hero. He's a hero.
The majority of people,
I mean this sincerely,
the majority of people saw
Sam Becker-Fried loses $40 billion worth of crypto
and they go, let's go!
I believe that, thousand percent.
Nobody feels bad about anybody
that loses money gambling and crypto's gambling.
Yeah. So nobody feels that. The tragedy loses money gambling and crypto's gambling. Yeah.
So nobody feels that.
The tragedy is there's like guys like fucking that threw his entire fucking life savings into FTX thinking that it was his one opportunity to make money, like serious money in his life for his retirement.
That's fucking tragic.
We never think of those people.
We think about some fucking guy in his basement.
Now, now.
Alex has gold on his teeth, bro. His teeth are full
of gold. He's like, man, he's poor, broke
motherfucker.
That's the impression of metals.
Gold, gold.
You can't put that on your teeth.
So,
those people suck, but nobody identifies
those people as the investors of
crypto. They think about the investors of crypto.
They think about the crypto billionaires.
Listen, here's the reality when it comes to, this is the reality when it comes to life in general.
If your friends who have never made money in their life.
I know which friend you're talking about specifically.
You.
It's not me.
It's you.
No, it's not.
He's got a friend way more rich that started way more broke.
If your friends who have never.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, shots, buddy.
Yeah, listen.
You know who you are.
If your friends
who have never made money
in their life
start making money
based on a thing,
it's bullshit.
He's still mad.
No, no, no.
Remember,
we started Patreon
for a reason.
Remember where you are.
Yeah, one Bitcoin.
Remember where you are.
It's not like you were flush
with fucking money.
Okay?
Yeah, but this is my Bitcoin.
Say again?
This is my Bitcoin.
What is?
This podcast.
No, no, no.
No.
Bitcoin is your Bitcoin.
This podcast is real.
Put us in there.
This is a real thing
that we like work
and make money on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's tangible, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is a fungible token.
I look like a bored ape, but I'm not, okay?
So the point is, the point is, if anybody, like, Dove pointed this out.
He goes, he had all these people that were making tons of money on mortgages in around 2007.
All of his friends, his fucking dumb friends who didn't even fucking graduate college,
making all this money in fucking mortgages.
Fucking idiots, baboons, making money in fucking mortgages. Yeah., baboons, making money and fucking mortgages.
Yeah.
Once you see your friends
making money and mortgages,
immediately go,
ah, this is falling apart.
Do you remember this?
We're in a fucking hotel
in Arizona.
We're in the pool
and there's these
five British people,
no teeth,
talking about,
yeah, we travel
all over the world,
blah, blah, blah.
We made all this money
in crypto.
And they were trying
to hustle us into crypto.
Do you remember this?
At the pool?
Nope. And there were these hillbillies.. Do you remember this? At the pool? Nope.
And there were these hillbillies.
Yeah, they're hillbillies from England.
And they were like, yeah, we've been doing crypto.
We've been selling.
It's the future, bro.
And literally no teeth.
Their tongue was hanging out.
No, that shit's British.
Yeah, I guess.
Problem.
And I was looking at this and I was like, oh, yeah.
This is not good.
This is like a year and a half ago.
And I was like, yeah, this is not good.
This is not good.
Yeah.
Can I say the other one that's about to go?
Oh, yeah, please.
Everybody's making money in real estate now, right?
Every fucking idiot.
Every fucking idiot is making money in real estate right now, right?
Every New York apartment's going for $5 million fucking dollars.
This house over here is going for $20 million.
Tell me.
It's going down.
It's going down. Okay? If your friend's wife who never had a job in her life is making money in real estate, it's going
down. Bad.
Did you make money in your apartment? Don't you rent your place?
No, I'm luckily losing. That's how I'm going to do it.
How are you the only person losing money?
I'm fine.
How are you losing money on your apartment?
You have a beautiful place.
I can't raise the fucking rent because she cries every time.
And I have a heart.
I want to raise the rent $100.
I'm literally paying for the rent.
Listen to more Andrew Tate immediately.
Listen to more Andrew Tate.
You're a sim.
You're being manipulated, bro.
I'm paying for this woman to live in my home.
I'm leasing. You're getting pimped. I did. You're a zip. You're being manipulated, bro. I'm paying for this woman to live in my home. You're getting pimped.
I did.
You're getting pimped, bro.
I tried and then she starts crying
and I just can't do it.
I can't do it.
So I just pay for her to live there.
Have your wife talk to her.
I can't.
Listen to more Andrew Tate.
Listen to three videos.
Have your friend talk to her.
I had the best financial year of my life
and I'm supposed to go to this poor woman
who's sitting behind me.
You're like, come on, bro.
Come on.
The dumbest thing I ever did is they let them know that I own the fucking place.
I should have had a management company or something handle it so it has nothing to do with me, so they're the bad guy.
You were just calling them?
Not me, but my realtor was doing it.
He's been absolutely fantastic.
I'm super grateful that he's been handling it, but they know that I own the place so that she has leverage.
Imagine. Imagine.
Imagine.
Millionaire comedian kicks out.
Oh, a new CoffeeZilla video.
I love CoffeeZilla. I wonder what he's talking about.
CoffeeZilla.
So I just,
I don't raise it.
You know, it's fine.
Forever.
She re-signed the lease twice. I had two raise it. You know, it's fine. You're fucked. Never ever. She re-signed the lease twice.
I had two other opportunities.
Just give it to her now.
Just give it to her.
Can I tell you what I did?
This is what I did.
This is what I did.
Oh, this is so embarrassing.
I'm the worst.
I refinanced my mortgage so that I would lose less money.
Yeah, I remember that.
So instead of raising her rent, I was like, oh, I'll take care of it on this side. And then I re- less money. Yeah, I remember that. So instead of raising her rent, I was like,
oh, I'll take care of it on this side.
And then I refied.
But that was good.
The interest rate was super low.
Like you did that
totally to-
Well, no, I did interest only.
Oh, okay.
So I had,
no, I did the worst thing ever.
I had a 30-year mortgage
on for nothing
and then I refied
to a 10-year interest only,
which means you're only
paying the interest.
You're not paying
any of the principal.
That's smart. So eventually in 10 years, I'm going to have to, I still have to pay the principal. Yeah. But I had a 10-year interest only, which means you're only paying the interest. You're not paying any of the principal. That's smart.
So eventually in 10 years, I'm going to have to,
I still have to pay the principal.
Yeah.
But I had a 30-year mortgage.
Right now, when mortgage rates are 7%,
the value of the property is the mortgage.
Yeah.
And she'll have squatters rights by then.
So I don't even know what you're going to do.
You're going to have to evict her.
Get the city involved.
You just looked.
Very nice.
All your stuff is in there, too.
I can make money in one way.
I can make money in one way. I don't in one way I don't know how to make money
off of this other thing
I try to make money in crypto
I lose everything
you know why
I try to make money in real estate
I lose everything
you know why
I think real estate
I can't make money
taking advantage of people yet
that's what I realized
I can't make money
taking advantage of people yet
here's how you even it out
she knows it's your apartment
tell the people who she is
what are you trying to do?
You're going to dox her?
Yeah.
That's wild.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You're going to dox people
to go to his apartment?
No, not to go to an apartment,
but just like shame her
and to be like,
yo, you should be paying more for that.
Market value.
Pay market value.
Yeah, there's one group of people
everyone sympathizes with.
It's the landlord.
Gotta fuck that up.
You're the landlord, bro?
That's some evil shit.
Don't call yourself a landlord, bro.
He's a landlord, dude.
It's got a lord in the name.
He's got a girl trapped in his castle.
And he's losing money on it.
Yeah, me too.
I don't own anything.
He doesn't own anything.
I just take care of all the bills and shit.
Oh, my God.
It's fucked up.
Oh, my my god For real
I'm in it
You know why I think real estate is going to crash again?
Because he's looking to buy again
That's why I don't trust his real estate shit at all
Who's looking to buy? You!
I ain't never buying nothing again
How many conversations has he stopped?
Hold on, the apartment just came available
I'd be pretending with my wife
To give her something to think about for the future, but I ain't really gonna fucking buy it.
Just be it on Zillow for no reason.
Yeah, Zillow and chill.
I don't even go on Netflix no more.
I Zillow and chill.
You cast it to the TV?
Oh, what do you think about this one?
Oh, the kitchen's too small.
Is it?
You know?
What are we gonna do, dog?
Listen, what do you mean what are we gonna do?
In six months, she's gonna have to re-sign the lease.
How do you landlord people? That, to me, dog? Listen, what do you mean? In six months, she's going to have to re-sign the lease. How do you landlord people?
That, to me, hurts, bro.
That hurts.
Inflation is up 5%.
Let's just make it 5%.
Let's do that.
You move back in.
Downsize.
Yeah, get a roommate.
Be like, hey, we're going to split.
No, I'm saying philosophically, like somebody's going through a hard time,
and you've got to go get that fucking money from them every month.
That's hard, man.
You've got to give the apartment to somebody that's in your family and be like, hey get that fucking money from them every month. That's hard, man. You got to give the apartment
to somebody that's in your family
and be like,
hey, my family member
needs to move in.
I'm sorry.
I have to,
at the end of this lease,
you have to go.
And then that family member
can live there
and take advantage of you,
but at least his family.
That's a good point.
I mean, they won't pay any rent,
but at least his family.
At least I'll be taking
advantage of by my own.
By your own blood.
You have to create an image of who you think this person is without knowing anything.
This person made millions in crypto.
Dude.
This person's a crypto whale.
When I was looking for an apartment, I looked at an apartment in that building, 30% more.
30%.
At least.
It could have been 40% more.
This is a highway robbery.
How do you lose money in real estate?
Yo, hey,
Dumb needs a place
to live still, right?
No, I got a nice place.
Hey, bro.
I only know how to make money
one way, bro.
Telling these jokes, baby.
That's it.
That's it, bro.
That's it.
She's at an expensive
restaurant in the city.
She's like, oh, shit.
It's time to sign
the lease together.
Yeah.
I mean, it's time to sign the lease again. He's like, yeah. I mean,
she probably takes
the interview.
She calls him my lord.
My lord.
My lord, please.
It's like a game of thrones.
She's like,
I purchased Infamous.
We've had a rough harvest.
He thinks he's like a serf
selling buckwheat. Like, this is crazy. Oh, fuck. She lives in Manhattan. She's having a great time. He thinks he's like a serf selling buckwheat.
Like, this is crazy.
Oh, fuck.
She lives in Manhattan.
She's having a great time.
Do y'all know what I'm talking about, though, ethically?
Yes.
Like, you have a human being that might be struggling.
Yeah, living in an amazing place in Manhattan.
No, it's tough to live in Gramercy in Manhattan.
That's really, like, your life is hard.
Yeah, yeah.
She's on the ropes.
I mean, if you're living in Gramercy, dude.
This is her last leg.
I don't know what's going on with her life. Maybe some elephant. Dude, I'm sure it's tragic, dude. Y'all are, yeah. She's on the ropes. I mean, if you're living in Gramercy, dude. This is her last leg. I don't know what's going on with her life.
Maybe some elephant.
No, dude, I'm sure it's tragic, dude.
Y'all are heartless.
She's living in the...
Y'all are heartless.
She's living in the bogus city in the world.
She gave her a COVID deal, though.
Yeah, yeah.
Everybody's COVID deal went up.
You're the only COVID deal that didn't go up.
We're still in a pandemic.
Al, we're still in a pandemic.
He's bouncing all the stuff.
We still got COVID.
We got 30% new cases in China, bro.
Look at the IBM virus, bro.
He's coughing.
He's coughing right now.
Did you get a booster yet?
I don't know.
Here's the way.
Find out whatever they're actually charging
for an exact same apartment in the building
and then charge her 5% less, like I said.
5% less.
Talk to your friend about it.
He will have no issues.
Yeah, yeah.
Don't let Doug do that
because this girl will absolutely kill herself.
But I think maybe,
what if we just get her out? What if we just get her out through some type of like... What's worse? No, no, don't let Dove do that, because this girl will absolutely kill herself. But I think maybe, what if we just get her out?
What if we just get her out through some type of like...
What's worse?
No, no, no, but like...
Like we go...
No, no, no, Dachshund is not good.
No, no, no, we don't talk.
We're like, why is the girl going to kill herself
with Dove's advice?
Because Dove's going to just grind her away
and take everything.
Are you saying that we just start moving
other people into their apartment?
Is that...
And be like, oh, actually, this is a disputed apartment.
Yeah, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
And then we take down a wall
and we add some more people.
And then it just becomes
so uncomfortable
for her to live there
that she eventually just moves.
Goes to Nebraska.
Opens a restaurant.
There you go.
Hey, falafel for everybody.
No, but I'm thinking like,
what if you just get
like a speaker in the window
and make some like noises
like, oh, there's rodents
or something.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You can't get up to the,
the window's too high.
I was looking over Central Park. So she's like, this girl's struggling, no. You can't get up to the window. It's too high.
I was looking over Central Park.
It's a high floor.
This girl's struggling, dude.
She's on a high floor with double-pane windows,
so you can't hear the outside world.
Yeah.
She's like, why does it feel different?
Making money in this way.
Why does it feel different, like, making money the way we make money?
Because you're charging other people, and they're making money off of them.
And you don't need it. And you're making
a profit off of them.
Also the elasticity of demand.
Talk that shit, boy.
Talk that shit.
Ecom 101.
Yeah, let's go, bro.
I got a degree.
No, but like,
you need a place to live.
So if you're like
raising the price on someone
that needs something to live,
like insulin,
fucking apartment, all that shit, it's like, I feel bad. No, no, no. I watched a documentary about this. So if you're like raising the price on someone that needs something to live, like insulin, fucking apartment,
all that shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, I feel bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
I watched a documentary
about this.
No, he's making
a really good point.
Like, somebody needs shelter.
So am I taking advantage
of a need?
Yeah.
Whereas like,
people don't need a pod
because they don't need
a comedy show,
but we ideally provide something
that has so much value
that they're willing
on their own volition to support.
It's kind of a luxury.
And they get value from it.
It is a luxury.
And my mom would always say this about fucking dance lessons.
She's like, we're really lucky.
I was like, why?
She says, well, we make money off of something that makes people feel good and that they
choose to opt into.
It's not like they have to and then we're going to remove it from them and then they
can fucking die.
And I was like, whoa, that's a really cool ethical way to make a living.
Maybe I'm being super gay right now.
No, no, that's true.
But maybe that's what I have.
It's like by raising the rent,
I'm objectively making her life
slightly more difficult.
You didn't think about this
when you bought an apartment
in New York City?
No, son, I thought that's what you did
when you got money.
You buy an apartment,
someone lives there,
they pay for the whole value
of the apartment.
Yeah.
This is why 2008 happened.
Because people like me. Yes. Okay?
If there were more people like you, 2008 would never have happened.
The insurance against this is you bought a building with
a hundred more units. Can I tell you
something? You can
live for free, sweetheart. What? No.
You can live for free, sweetheart. He doesn't mean that.
You can live for free. That's a verbal contract.
That's binding. That's legally binding.
I can't help it anymore. I was talking to my wife.
Baby, you ain't ever got to pay rent a day.
He's like, whoo!
That's your boy.
That boy's got your back.
You don't make your girl pay rent?
My girl pays rent.
Does she?
Yeah, of course, bro.
Really?
Okay, okay, okay.
I rationalize that in my head, though, sometimes.
Which is?
Because she's making money, so I'm like, oh, yeah, that's your half.
And then we go to dinner, and then I'll be like, yeah, you got this one.
But it just is an unlimited amount that just gets added in, in my head.
Yo, I be wanting to know where my girl's money goes.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to look into the books a little bit, baby.
Right?
You know?
Because she's out here balling.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, where's it going?
I do think most wives with husbands who make money think,
your money is our money and my money is my money.
Yeah.
She don't think that way, but she act it.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like, I got to look.
I got to see the things she's buying.
I need to go get,
understand what's going on over here.
Talking about her credit card bill.
You're going to audit your wife?
I think I might need to audit my wife.
Oh, my credit card bill's so high.
Pay it!
Do you know what I'm saying?
You making money.
You ain't got to pay for nothing else.
Pay that.
Yeah.
I know how you could feel better.
How?
Your young, hardworking editor
who is looking at
Zillow for an apartment.
He's wearing pearls.
He kills himself,
wears pearls out,
thinks out.
I'm just saying.
Oh, he needs a place to live.
Oh, do you want
a place to live?
Sure.
Of course.
I love a place to live.
You sound like Mickey Mouse.
I know.
You know what's crazy?
What's up, Pearl?
You want to know
something crazy right now?
That you offered this to him?
No, no, no, no.
I feel so much better charging him more than the woman this is.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Why is that?
Or maybe it was Miles.
I think you offered it to Miles.
I offered it to everybody.
Yeah.
Well, not everybody, but he did.
Everybody would afford it.
It's a nice place in the head.
It's not Long Island City.
It's like a good spot.
God damn, man.
Am I being pussy?
I think that you hit that.
I think you hit it on the head right there.
Like something about like.
No, you're being pussy because rent is something that everyone is used to.
It goes up every time you resign the lease.
Everyone is used to that.
That's like fundamental. That's not even something that you're used to, it goes up every time you resign the lease. Everyone is used to that. That's like fundamental.
That's not even something
that you're doing specifically wrong.
All the landlords are doing that.
That's right.
I know, but maybe,
and I'm not saying that they shouldn't do it
and everybody has to pay their bills
and that kind of stuff.
We're just very fortunate where like,
I don't make a living.
I think if I, like you were saying earlier,
if I made a living off of it
and that's how I fed my family,
I would feel better because it's like,
yo, if I don't do this, you're taking away food from my family. Now my family's really hurting and I'm not asking you to do anything that's abnormal. You're still at
market value, et cetera. But I think because I don't, and I'm very fortunate where we can provide
for ourselves with what we do here, that grinding a fucking hundred bucks or something, it just felt gross.
It's like getting into the insulin business
as a side hustle.
Yeah, exactly.
On the side, I'm going to start charging people
like a thousand bucks.
What's that guy, Martin Shkreli,
does some life-saving medication
that he charged ridiculous prices for?
It's like, you already made money.
Now you need to make extra money
on the insulin, Martin Shkreli?
On the things people need the most?
Yeah, it just felt weird.
And this girl's probably had a hard life.
White woman, no justice for her. Never in the world. Second-class citizen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like, it just felt weird. Yeah. And this girl's probably had a hard life.
White woman, no justice for her.
Exactly.
Never in the world.
Second class citizen.
Yeah.
Yeah, dude.
Rough.
Spent a hundred bucks.
Okay, so you guys seem to think I'm being unrealistic.
You seem to think that I'm being all right.
No, I mean, it's like a nice thing to do.
No, I get it. It's like something charitable.
I think it's very kind.
I think if you went up, like, the standard rate of inflation or whatever, like, the thing in New York City is, I don't think it would be egregious.
But it is a kind thing that's playing on your guilt.
Very Catholic of you.
I think you're being unfair.
To her?
Yeah, you're not setting her up for the future.
She's going to live in places and be like, oh, okay, I'm used to somebody not raising the rent on me.
And then they're going to raise the rent.
And I can cry my way out of it.
And then she's going to be on the street.
And then she's going to live in Andrew Tate's castle.
And this is what's going to happen, bro.
All because of you.
Yeah.
All the special treatment and shit.
God damn it, Dove.
It's so hot in here.
It's so hot.
It's so hot.
It's unbelievable.
Can you just show me the degrees?
What is it on?
Show me the degrees at least.
You said the number, right?
Yeah.
Show me the degrees.
Oh, he's making a load All of a sudden
Oh, you did something
You did something
I did, I told you
Something shifty
Something happened
Drop it down to 70
70
That is the temperature
That we've been saying
60
But 70
Yeah
No
Wow
Why?
Come on
60?
That's 60
Shifty looks different
Okay, let's button this up
Yeah, can we button it up?
What's the deal?
So what's going to happen with Tate?
I think he's going to live in your apartment rent-free.
Yeah, yeah, Tate, I have a place for you if you need.
You interested can live there.
Oh, God.
Yeah, I think it's like money shit,
and then he'll pay the fines or whatever
and be sanctioned and have wages garnished or whatever
and then be free.
I think he's going to get more free. Assuming there's no sex crime
stuff with it. Now, here's the thing. If he doesn't
go away for
something that
people view as morally
reprehensible, I think it only increases
his star power and
the fervor of his fan base.
He's already bigger now, 100%.
Especially, let's say he does
five years for tax evasion, it's like oh, they couldn't like, let's say he does five years for tax evasion.
It's like, oh, they couldn't stop him, so they had to get him on tax evasion.
Oh, he was too powerful.
The Matrix was trying to quiet him.
It's like, or maybe he was finding ways to skirt around taxes,
and he wasn't, you know, bribing the right people in Romania.
That's the other thing.
It's like, my man was talking about how corrupt Romania is.
Like, you snitching on yourself, fam.
Like, don't talk about your homies.
If you are paying motherfuckers off, say Romania is not corrupt at all.
It's the perfect place and you want people to move there.
It's amazing.
Don't say they're corrupt.
And you're almost asking Romania to prosecute you.
Even if it is a corrupt place, you can't go say that shit to millions of people.
You're basically going, you won't.
Yeah.
Do it.
You're saying do it.
Okay.
They did it.
Yeah.
Right?
It's like you wow
in order to maintain
their reputation
they have to
yeah
prosecute you almost
and look for anything
like nickel and dime
every little thing
even if he's just doing
like the regular tax loopholes
they're probably finding ways
to get him on that
and just the fact
they released his brother
like real quick
kind of indicates to me
that like it's not
criminal in the way
that everyone is projecting
and the prosecutor like wearing is projecting. And the prosecutor
is wearing the mink coat to the boxing match.
If you were doing this shit silently,
they wouldn't have given a fuck.
But his brand is not doing it silently.
His brand is calling everyone pussy,
Romanian's pussy, whatever.
So it just caught up to him.
This is the price you pay.
I think a similar thing happened with Tekashi in a way.
His brand was telling everyone to go suck my dick.
And then eventually people like prosecuted and like they got agents inside his thing and they used him as a way to get the gang.
And then he had to make a choice.
And so like if your brand is like fuck everyone, eventually someone's going to come for you and then you got to come collect.
I like that you brought up Tekashi because I saw a headline of Sam Bankman-Fries' sloth-faced girlfriend or whatever, that fucking disgusting twat that's in business with him, was going to flip on him.
And I think she and a couple other people are going to snitch.
And I was infuriated by it because she was the CEO of the company.
She's going on podcasts bragging about their success. Her uncle, I think, was the person
that works at the SEC
that they were trying to use as a
connection to lobby to get regulation.
Because remember, this was a race between them
and Binance. Who could be the first US-regulated
exchange?
So she's so intimately
involved with all the fuck shit.
I'm assuming. Maybe she wasn't.
But intimately involved with all this fuck shit. And then she's willing to sn she wasn't. But intimately involved with all this fuck shit,
and then she's willing to snitch to get less time.
And to me, this seemed like such an open and shut case.
It's not like there's nefarious activity going on
that they can't prove.
They can prove there was $40 billion.
Now there's no more $40 billion.
You guys were at the head of the company when this happened?
You're responsible.
Simple as that.
Yeah, but if you have to make the prosecution work
and like really dig in the books
or you can just have this person flip,
tell me exactly everything,
I'll give you a little bit of better deal
and I have a nice plan.
He hit his tracks.
He went to the Bahamas,
you got to go through all the Bahamian records,
there's no extradition,
you can't sign another file.
I think that's what's going on with Young Thug.
Well, I want to get to that one thing.
I just want to say about this.
For the first time in my life, it made me infuriated at a snitch.
I didn't understand why being a snitch, like in Italian Mafia, shit is so bad,
and black gangs is so bad.
I didn't understand why.
And it's like, now I got it.
It was like, motherfucker motherfucker you were with me doing
the foul shit this is your ideas too yeah and the second you had the opportunity to flip on me for
yourself like i actually think there's a human instinct outside of like just gang shit like a
human instinct to look at snitches as vile because they are viewing themselves over the group.
Yeah, you betrayed me.
We were a part of the tribe
and then some shit went down
and then you picked
a different tribe?
You just understand it.
I kind of get that, though,
actually.
There is a little bit
of a difference
in terms of why.
This one specifically
stuck out to me
and I think it's because,
like, white...
White people.
Oh, okay.
I'm like,
what's the difference?
It's not like mobsters and shit like that. No, no, it sounds like it's not white people. Oh, okay. I'm like, what's the difference? It's not like mobsters and shit like that.
No, no, it sounds like it.
It's not white people.
And the reason why I had to think about
was Tekashi with this
and why I don't think what Tekashi did
was necessarily wrong.
Now, I know there's another conversation piece
that goes with this, okay.
But the violation,
Tekashi snitched on his boys who fucked his girl,
kidnapped him, did all this other shit. They violated the trust first, in my opinion.
Now, he's part of the street, so he has to handle it on some street shit, blah, blah, blah.
I've heard that argument as well. So instead of going to the cops, he should go to
them and handle some street shit, whatever. of going to the cops, he should go to them and handle some street
shit, whatever. Once you violate the code, it don't matter how it's handled. You violated
me. You violated our trust. We had this trust. We were breaking the law together. And the
only reason we can accomplish this is because we all trust each other to remain true. You
violated that. Don't be upset at me now that I also violated.
You violated it
a different way.
I violated it
a different way.
I think what some of them
would say is that,
hey, we've been propping you up
to be this gangster.
You need to be paying us more.
And they weren't.
He wasn't paying them enough.
So now they're like,
oh, you're not going to pay us enough.
We're going to take it from you.
Yeah, but before that,
they fuck his girl?
Yeah.
I mean, like,
there's real different rules.
No, I know there's different rules.
And she wasn't the best.
Maybe, and fair, I guess what I'm trying to say is, like,
it made me think of this situation as well,
where it's just like, god damn.
Like, it's one thing when you have, like, a criminal kingpin
that's forcing you to do crimes, and if you don't do them,
they're going to kill you.
Yeah.
Nobody's forcing this bitch to do this shit.
She's enriching herself.
She's using her family
connections to further
enrich herself
and then the first
opportunity she can
to snitch on that motherfucker
so she can have
a better life,
she does?
Yeah.
Your family's connections
were being used.
No,
I completely agree with that.
It's gross to me, bro.
But you're with your partner.
Let's just say
your shorty's doing some nefarious shit right now.
You going to snitch on her?
Nah, you going to hold it down.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, what?
Like, if your partner right now starts doing some shit, some illegal shit, maybe it's not that bad, but it's just like, whatever.
And then, you're not going to snitch on your girl.
You're not going to snitch on your wife.
She was the CEO of the company.
No, no, no, I know.
But let's say if, like, all right.
Also, his partner, what do you mean by partner?
Is that like a relationship?
Okay, yeah.
But isn't, I don't know if they were married.
That's why I just didn't want to say it.
No, they were boyfriend and girlfriend
and then she was fucking all the people.
They were in those polyamorous relationships.
So everybody working was doing it.
I was just saying like, hey,
you kind of hold down the person that you're with.
Yeah, but she's snitching.
Yeah, because now they got in trouble
and like you said, they weren't that close.
But while you're doing this thing, it's like, hey, if I can help you out, I'll help you out while you're doing the thing.
Because we're in this together as a team.
If I'm going to benefit off of this life that you're providing for me and I can help out in a way, like that was her version of helping.
Like, hey, oh, I got this family member.
This might help out. No, she was more intimately involved in that. Yeah, but I don't think this was her scheme like that was her version of helping. Like, hey, oh, I got this family member, this might help out.
No, she was more
intimately involved than that.
Yeah, but I don't think
this was her scheme.
It was her scheme.
She was writing
the fucking code.
I thought it was his scheme.
Son, she's this...
I don't know about that.
Yeah, I think that's...
I think you don't know
enough about her
and how intimate
she was in involvement.
There was like 10 of them
that was running
this whole fucking thing.
All of them intimately involved.
68 degrees, Dove, please.
I guess what I'm trying to say is
it really made me think about snitching differently.
Like, it is.
I guess my point to that is like
I always would see snitches as like a bystander.
Like, it would be like some guy that was like
tertiary to the gang that saw some crime happen
and then they'd be like,
what happened?
And we're going to put you in jail unless you tell us.
And then it was like,
I was like,
damn,
that's a shitty situation to be in.
I never realized,
oh,
a lot of these snitches
were also complicit
or just accomplices
or accessories
to whatever crime was.
Your first example
isn't a snitch.
That's the other thing.
we don't consider that.
Right,
I thought that was snitching.
Me too.
I also thought that was snitching
and I was like,
yo,
I'm just on the block.
I see this shit go down.
The cops come to me.
I'm going to tell them
what the fuck happened.
I thought that was wrong, too.
No, that's fine.
That's fine.
You're a civilian.
If you were profiting off it, you're enriching yourself off of it.
I mean, that's the other.
I don't know.
For some reason, that shit stuck.
I was like, yo, that is disgusting.
No, it's fucked.
You vile pig.
Yeah.
Like, it is gross, bro.
You sacrificed us to save yourself when we both did the same thing.
We both did it.
Yeah.
That's fucked.
That would fuck with your head.
I don't know how any normal person could be like, okay, we fucked over all these people,
but then the person I was closest to doing all the fucking over is now in prison for the next 10 years,
and I'm the reason.
And then you got to, like, walk around.
Because they put survival on you.
That's where human beings who are trying to survive are not going to be living by a code.
Oh, yeah. You know what I mean?
We can act like—
Desperate people do desperate shit.
When cops come in and start playing mind games, they're like, yo, that guy's snitching right now.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You start getting fucked with.
So I understand why it's gross.
I can also empathize with how it happens.
I get how you get there.
And I'm trying—I'm going to die in jail.
Son, if we committed a crime together, it's not even a question who dies first in prison.
I would like to think I'd
never snitch. I would like to think that, but like
son, I'm going to fucking die
in there. Son, I'll be honest. My life is on the line.
I don't know. Are there Indian prison gangs? Not in a
easy way. I'll be honest
with you, bro. I'm not going to die painlessly.
That's why I think women should get larger
sentences because their
time in jail
is way better. They get their hair
braided. They got a girlfriend. It's summer camp.
They're finding ways to put on nail polish. There's no nail polish
in jail. They're making nail polish out of
fucking crayons or something like that.
Men are making knives out of soapboxes. So they can
protect themselves from getting butt fucked in a shower.
You can't compare three to three.
It's not three to three.
It's like that wage gap or whatever
the fuck it is. Same thing with prison.
It should be like ten to three.
If you're a girl, you get ten years for every three years that a guy does
because I'm sure it's like three times less dangerous.
It's like a woman's size seven.
So if Meg was guilty, she should have got 50 years in jail
instead of if Tori was guilty getting 20 or whatever.
Whatever that is, whatever the math adds up, I actually believe that.
It's a shoe size thing.
Yeah, exactly.
And I'll be honest,
if you go to one of those
like cute jails,
what are those cute jails?
You know, like the
fucking rich white people
all go to?
Yeah, boutique jail.
The minimum security shit,
that should be longer too.
You could do one in butt fuck
or you could go
10 in country club.
I'm with you.
Who's going to take
one in butt fuck?
Give me 10 in country club.
I might do one in butt fuck. Who's going to be like, you know what Give me ten and country club. I might do ten and country.
Who's going to take,
who's going to be like,
you know what,
give me the one and butt fuck.
One and butt fuck,
I would do.
Because I'm guaranteed
a butt fuck.
It's like,
it's just a risk.
I'm guaranteed a butt fuck.
Nah,
I'm guaranteed.
I'm guaranteed a butt fuck.
Nah,
nah,
nah.
If they make his ass shave
and you just see this
cute face.
He's pretty,
but he's built bad.
No, it's not about looks.
Does anybody want to grab onto that?
That's true.
I'm built like a woman, to be honest with you.
So if I had a best look.
You ain't built like no woman I know.
I'm not saying I'm the best looker.
I'm saying I'm just the easiest to take.
No, you're pretty as fuck.
I'm the easiest to take is what I'm saying.
I wouldn't be able to defend myself.
You would get in a gang.
You would get in a gang.
You'd have a job.
You'd be like doing cigarettes or something.
You'd be delivering money.
Al knows.
He was a cop.
He put many black people in jail.
Al, what?
You made sure they went to jail.
No, no, no.
You made sure they didn't get out.
They were catching up.
You were like, get your black ass in jail.
That's it.
Make sure you ain't get out.
Unless you snitch.
Yeah, yeah.
Nah, but he's, you're going first.
Yeah.
Just sheer weakness.
But it's between because he got a dumper on him.
No, he's more.
So they're going to want to fuck the shit out of him.
He's more fuckable.
I don't even think they touched you.
No, no, no.
I'm the boss.
I'm going to be boss.
He's not even touching.
He's like, I'm going to be boss.
Get out of here.
Son, I got longer legs than all you.
You don't think they want to see them legs walking around the unit?
A little giraffe looking at us?
They don't see all this, bro.
In all seriousness, you think you're the most rapable.
You're pretty as fuck.
I'm the weakest is all I'm saying.
Yeah, but it's not about that.
They like a challenge.
Rapists don't want what's easiest.
They want a challenge. They want to break don't want what's easiest. They want a challenge.
They want to break you.
Like, they're going to break you.
Tell us, son.
Son, they're going to break you.
Chill out.
They're going to break you.
Son, I'm not going to lie, bro.
They're breaking you, bro.
Son, I was running, Sweden.
What?
Stop it.
I was running, Sweden, son.
Stop it.
They would never.
Son, they're breaking you, bro.
They would never. They're breaking you, bro. So you saw Drake copying me, son? Like, run of Sweden, son. Stop it. They would never. Son, they breaking you, bro. They would never.
They breaking you, bro.
So you saw Drake copying me, son?
Like, there you go, son.
I'm just a trendsetter, bro.
They would have beamed.
Why didn't he get locked up for 30?
What?
That's how you know Drake's on a different level than A$AP.
A$AP just found out where he was.
Yeah, I know.
He's like, I called Trump.
Drake's like, I am Trump.
I don't need to call anyone.
They just let me out.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah, it's wild.
Same thing. Didn't get locked up. Yeah. Yeah. It's Drake, bro. It's Drake. Drake's really got it like that. I am Trump I don't need to call anyone they just let me out isn't that crazy same thing
didn't get locked up
yeah
it's Drake bro
it's Drake
that's a super flex
yeah
anyway
point is
you're getting raped
you're getting raped
crypto's the future
and no one will ever rape you
exactly
nobody wants to rape you
yeah I'm gonna be fucked
aww
I don't get raped
aww
can I get raped
you want to be rapable.
You want to at least be rapable.
Wait, so if you're not getting raped,
does that mean you're doing the raping?
Oh, no.
Clip it.
Miles, Miles, Miles, do your thing.
You're staying away from the edit. You're staying late for the edit.
You're staying late.
Hot yoga.
That's actually a good question.
If you are in jail, which one would you rather be?
It's a good-ass question.
I think we all know the answer.
That's a good-ass question.
Thanks for bringing that up.
Which one would y'all rather be?
Wait a minute.
You got to take down 10 or get taken once in jail?
What would you rather?
You fucking
**** on the couch?
Which one would you rather?
But you can pick, right?
You can pick it.
Can you pick who takes it?
You got to take down 10.
10 is a lot, dog.
By force.
It's a lot.
10 bodies over here, boy. I thought you were going dog. By force. It's a lot. 10 bodies over here, boy.
I thought you were
going to say by force.
No question.
Yo, this guy had bodies.
I thought you were
going to say by force.
You're a crazy guy, bro.
10 bodies.
Y'all ain't taking 10 bodies?
I don't want to be a rapist, Alex.
Wow, that's nothing.
Yeah, you see?
Come on, dog.
Why you doing that?
Can't we continue
to have fun here?
They're going to figure out
my shit if I tell them.
They're going to figure out
my shit.
How could they put
the clues together?
Yeah, exactly.
It's mystery of the ages.
So take my shit out
to the fucker.
If nobody's having fun,
nobody's having fun.
No.
We having fun.
No.
Go, go, go.
So you're a rapist.
You're a rapist.
I didn't do anything.
I got raped.
I'm a victim. I'm a victim.
I'm a survivor.
No, no.
He's saying he would rather take it once than do it ten times.
Yes.
You, selfish, would rather do it ten times than take it once.
That's how I know you snitching.
You a snitch.
How?
You a snitch.
You just proved it right there.
How?
You a snitch.
You hurt ten people, then hurt yourself once.
Wow.
You a snitch.
You got snitched in your butt.
Wow. This guy's a prosecutor. This, that's something. You a snitch. You got snitched in your butt. Wow.
You got snitched in your butt.
This guy's a prosecutor.
This guy's a prosecutor.
That spit is crazy.
You got snitched in your butt.
He got dick in his butt,
but you got snitched in your butt.
Why'd you have to bring that up?
Why'd you have to bring that up at all?
We're talking about him.
He put it just all on you.
It might not be a guy.
It could be a CO,
a female CO that got me.
I'm just saying.
What would you do?
How about this?
I'm going to give it to you nice and proper.
Okay.
Oh, I already got one.
Yeah, you would.
You're racist.
Yeah, you would.
You're racist.
That's not proper.
That's not proper.
All right, 10 different dudes.
Stop saying it.
10 different dudes.
10 different dudes.
Each one, you're bent over.
You grab your ankles.
10 different dudes get to walk by on a line,
and then they just go like this.
Bop.
Do they make the noise?
They say that?
They just go bop like that. Okay, you've got to hold your cheeks open. 10 different dudes just go bop like this. Bop. Do they make the noise? They just go, bop, like that.
Okay, you've got to
hold your cheeks open.
Ten different dudes
just go, bop, like that.
Okay.
Hook it down.
Yeah.
Okay?
Ten different dudes.
Okay, or, or.
Bop.
Or.
There's no or.
He just wants that.
All right, well, let's do it.
Yeah, let's do it then.
Let's start.
Or, or.
Or ten different dudes.
Bop, like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's start. Or, or, or 10 different dudes. Like that.
Okay.
Or,
or,
or,
or you,
or you,
or you
gotta fuck somebody
in their ass
against their will.
What do you call that?
I'm wondering
what's the word
for what that behavior was.
In prison.
In prison. In prison. In prison.
In prison.
In prison.
So what is it going to be?
This would have been a really funny song.
It would have been.
Hey, guys.
What's it going to be?
Hey.
So what's it going to be, guys?
The only challenge of this is I don't know if I can.
Middle finger, bro.
Jeez, yeah.
You know that?
Yeah.
The only challenge is I don't know if I can... Middle finger, bro. Jeez, yeah, right. You know that? Yeah. The only challenge is, I don't know if I can come ten times.
So you're going to be noodled up?
Yeah.
You're going to be noodled up?
That's going to be the only hard part for me.
Okay, so what would it be?
Which one would you choose?
Bang!
That's a good one.
You nailed that.
Bang!
Not even a question.
So ten times in a row? What is happening in prison that they just let that happen? We find a rule. So 10 times in a row?
What is happening in prison
that they just let that happen?
We find a room.
What is happening?
I'll tell you what's happening, justice.
Yeah, yeah, that's justice.
What am I in prison for?
Like, there's so many other questions.
Something is something bable.
What?
Something bable?
I deserved it?
The judge sentenced me to 10 bines?
No, no, no.
He didn't.
He sentenced you to 10 years in jail.
Wow.
This is your plea deal.
But in order for you to plea out.
My attorney's like, take the deal.
Listen, all you got to do is you got to be in the yard,
and the dudes walk up like this.
They're just looking around.
They nod the CO.
The CO looks the other way.
The CO's going to be like,
what are they playing,
Family Feud over there?
Survey says...
What'd you do it?
Ten times.
Ten times.
You're getting bat down ten times.
Ten times.
Steve Harvey is one of them.
Is there a white family
and a black family doing it?
Yep.
Okay, deal.
I'm in then. What'd you do it? Deal. Deal? Yeah, I'm going to doing it? Yep. Okay, deal. I'm in then.
Would you do it?
Deal.
Deal?
Yeah, I'm going to take
the physical challenge.
Okay, Alex.
I'm phoning in a friend.
It's a long game.
I'm playing every one.
It's a long game.
We're playing every one.
No, no, no.
You have to take it.
You're bent over.
You grab your ankles.
It's not even a contest, dude.
Easy.
Just think about it.
Y'all want the bat so quick.
Don't hurt someone else.
I don't want to hurt someone.
It's a much better option. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ten of them. It's ten of them. You'all want the pants so quick. Don't hurt someone else. I don't want to hurt someone. It's a much better option.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ten of them.
It's ten of them.
You got to bend over, though.
Like, ten times?
Bend over.
Some of them are going to miss.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, that's true.
That's not true.
Everyone is going in.
And what if they do miss?
That's not true.
I don't know where the fuck you made that up.
That thing is gaped.
Whoa.
Why is it gaped?
Can I tell you this?
Why is it gaped?
A couple of the guys played football earlier in their lives.
So that finger is crooked.
Whoa.
That finger right there, that shit.
With that ankle.
They got Michael Irvin.
They got to whip it.
They got to whip it like you're getting
tobacco ready.
That's what you do it.
What do you do it?
I ain't doing that
what I'm talking about.
See, he's got some crazy.
You got some crazy.
Yo, you guys are crazy.
Can we move on, bro?
I'm looking forward
to it, Mark.
Can we move on, bro?
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Last topic.
It is true.
It did happen.
How can-
Ronaldo.
The Ronaldo went to Saudi Arabia.
The Ronaldo.
The Ronaldo went to Saudi Arabia.
Yep.
That sucks.
I know.
Sad, dude.
Sad.
Crazy.
And only $75 million a year.
I thought he was supposed to get $275 million a year.
He said he'd get up to $200 million in a year, but I don't know how.
Yeah.
That's the report.
But still, what are you doing, man?
Yeah.
This is a sad way to go out.
They validate. My friend said this to me,
he goes, players validate themselves
by the offers they get.
So, you know, you're getting contracts,
you're still the guy, you're still the man.
And he's not getting offers
from any of the other major clubs, it seems.
Yeah, a lot of the Premier League teams
don't want to work with him.
He talked to different teams
and they were like,
oh yeah, we're trying to build around this guy
and you're only going to be here for another year.
So to basically sideline everything
we've been building for the last three years
to try to work you into our system
for then you to retire after a year or two
is not working.
Because he doesn't want to play a part of the system.
He's a bum.
He wants to be the guy.
Yeah.
He's just not good enough to be the guy
at that level anymore.
And if he's going to retire in a year or two, it's like, we're going to do all this work to build this team
around you, and you might not even be worth
the investment to build the team around.
He was saying, he was talking to Brazilian teams, Portuguese
teams, American teams. Which U.S. team
wouldn't do it just for two years of marketing?
That's different. I think what we're
talking about is... Competing at a still high level
in one of the top four leagues.
So now he's like, okay, if I'm not going to compete at the highest level,
what's going to make me the most money?
And it looks like you can't compete with Saudi in the offers.
But what my buddy was saying is that that's what the athletes tend to do,
is they validate themselves by the contracts they're getting,
and that was the biggest contract.
So in his mind, he can still be the biggest player.
Probably wasn't getting offered close to that from an American team.
Maybe he would have gotten like a percentage of the club
or something like that,
but I can imagine
that this Saudi deal is,
even if they say it's 75 million,
maybe they're like,
listen, we can only say 75
because we might want to
lure other players eventually
and we don't want to pay them this,
so we'll give you this on the side.
Like, the crown owns all the money.
Right.
They can give you
whatever the fuck they want.
Yeah, percent of jerseys
or this house,
you get this land, whatever.
So, it's a bummer because it could have been really cool as soccer is exploding in America.
We have the World Cup coming here.
There's the most interest in our lives that we've ever seen in soccer.
And then you have arguably the most famous soccer player on the planet comes to America with the other most famous.
It would be the perfect time for Messi and Ronaldo to come to America
and then soccer become the second most
popular sport in America, the third most popular sport.
Football, basketball, soccer,
that would be awesome.
He followed the money and you can't fault
him for that. He has every right to make as much money as he wants,
but it's a
bummer
because it feels like he missed out on
a cool cultural play.
Actual question, someone who doesn't know soccer,
it seems like the Messi-Ronaldo debate is pretty over.
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
If you ask someone in 2018 and you're like,
okay, imagine these two goats are going at it, Messi wins the World Cup,
and then Ronaldo can't find a team to play with and then goes to play in Saudi Arabia.
People would be like, this is insane.
What the fuck?
Did he get injured?
It's incomprehensible.
It seems like within the past 30 days
or whatever the World Cup,
fine, two weeks, the conversation's over.
Yeah, imagine in two years,
Steph Curry can't find a team and has to go to Turkey.
It's like, how could that even happen?
It's crazy.
Yeah.
So he declined that much?
I think it's partially his...
He wanted to be the guy.
Yeah, I think it's a little bit...
It's a decline,
but also you're not willing to be...
You're not willing to be a role player.
Oh.
And maybe his skill set
isn't built around being a role player.
Like, for example,
Steph Curry could play in the NBA
until he's 50 years old
because he can stand in the corner and hit threes
10 minutes a game if you need him. You can find the open
guy. And he's not going to take a pay cut.
Well, we're talking about, yeah, Ronaldo.
So Ronaldo's going, I'm not taking a pay cut
because, again, he's validating himself through the money.
It's a weird thing that happens, but my buddy
who works in sports is basically like, it's just
over this amount of time, that's how
you start to identify your status in the world.
Yeah, and you don't want to think you're going down. Exactly. I've also heard part of the reason there's holdouts and agents probably play a role in this, of time, that's how you start to identify your status in the world. Yeah, and you don't want to think you're going down.
Exactly.
I've also heard
part of the reason
there's holdouts
and agents probably
play a role in this,
but a player won't think
I'm worth $100 million necessarily.
What he'll think is
if this guy got $98 million,
I'm better than that guy.
I get $100 million.
It's not about the money.
It's about the competition
even within the context.
Doesn't it matter
where the money's coming from?
Like if you're not
in one of the premier leagues.
Not when you're convincing yourself.
Yeah.
I think he's in a little bit of denial, probably.
Yeah.
Because, listen, he gets benched for Portugal.
They get booted.
He doesn't have a great cup.
Yeah.
Doesn't play well at Man U.
Has issues with the club.
They, like, kind of oust him.
He, like, talks shit about them.
And instead of going, I'm not playing well.
It's never him, right? Yeah. He's upset at Portugal. He's upset at Man U. He, like, talks shit about them. And instead of going, I'm not playing well. It's never him, right? Yeah.
He's upset at Portugal. He's upset at Man U.
He's always upset. And this is
classic, right? It's like
classic what happens to a lot of star players
who are just like,
you know, his, the
resilience, the mental resilience that he has that
gets him here is also the thing
that's going to inhibit him from realizing that
he's fallen off. It becomes stubbornness
after a while.
But this spin cycle
seems pretty short
relative to what he's done so far
that it's pretty unfortunate
that it puts you in that place
so quickly in the end.
I think it's expedited
by the Messi situation, right?
Like, Messi's meteoric rise
to the number one football player
in the world
without a question.
He's just beloved.
Beloved.
And like everything about his attitude,
his demeanor,
the fact that he's not loud,
the fact that he's like,
he's got his girl that he's known since he's 12.
It's like the perfect fucking story.
He's physically small.
Like he was the underdog,
the runt that became a hero.
Universally liked by his teammates it seems.
Pays for the whole fucking,
the Argentine team.
Like they're going through financial hardships.
Apparently, he paid for everybody on the team's salaries.
Yeah.
Like, one year.
So, like, all these crazy cool stories are coming out
that he's just, like, a great guy.
And then poor Ronaldo is, like, the brash bravado.
Strong, tall, handsome, cocky.
Take your shirt off.
Yeah, Gaston.
Like, yeah, literally.
He's the guy most of your heroes are,
and Messi is the guy you wish most of your heroes were.
Yeah.
Well, I would make the argument that Messi is actually the David character
in typical hero stories.
It is the guy who's smaller.
Where Ronaldo is the Goliath.
Yes.
Or Gaston.
So it's like he's the person in the fairy tale
that should be
the prince
in the fairy tale
that ends up
not marrying the princess
and then the weak boy
ends up proving
that he is the
true suitor.
Yeah,
that's crazy.
Yeah.
I'm just curious
if it's a good investment
for Al Naseer.
So like,
the amount that they spent,
how would they justify that?
Would it just be through like, brand recognition to Saudi? Would it, how would they justify that? Would it just be through
like brand recognition
to Saudi?
Would it be through
like jersey sales?
Like I saw their
Instagram followers.
I think they got like
five million overnight
from like the announcement.
So even those stats alone,
I wonder if that would
be beneficial for them.
Even like streaming rights,
like how much value
does a player like that make?
So here are the things.
One, Saudi Arabia doesn't give a flying fuck about making money on any of these other endeavors.
Okay?
This is all marketing.
Come to Saudi Arabia.
We're going to run out of oil eventually.
We need to prove to you that there's some shit here besides oil derricks and Mecca.
Because I think the average person in the world just goes, I think all Saudi Arabia has is oil derricks and Mecca.
So, oh, well, we have a whole football league?
I didn't even know Saudi Arabia had a football league.
I didn't know until Rinaldo.
Yeah.
So Saudi Arabia just built this hotel, Habitats, or something like that.
It's near Jordan.
And a part of Saudi Arabia, it's similar to Jordan.
The geology looks just like Jordan.
It's built within these like crazy like rock structures
and they just spent like 10 times
what another hotel,
another Habitas hotel would ever spend.
And it's simply just to draw tourists out there
to prove that they have more
than oil derricks in Mecca.
They're building the whole,
the lion city.
It's like Wadi Rum and you go over there.
They're building the lion city
for the same reason, right?
The lion city, exactly.
So all these things are like marketing.
How can we become like global city, and how
can we shed a little bit of the
representation and the
reputation, the stigma that we already have, which
is like, hey, women can't drive.
Everybody, you know, burka'd up to here.
Khashoggi?
Khashoggi. That's $100 million
right there. So if the world
is watching Saudi
football games, not the world, but like
the Ronaldo fans are watching Saudi football fans,
maybe they want to go to Saudi to watch
a football fan. Now there's an excuse.
Now there's an excuse to travel a little bit.
And people will go do that.
They're Ronaldo fans. Dude, if Michael
Jordan was playing in another fucking
country, you don't think that Michael Jordan fans would go
there and watch a game? 100%.
So will they make back the $275 million like dollar per dollar? you don't think that Michael Jordan fans would go there and watch a game? 100%. So will they make back the $275 million
like dollar per dollar?
I don't know. But
is there a
is an infinite amount of money that is
returned from viewing Saudi Arabia
as more than just those two things?
Right. And all these oil
rich Middle Eastern companies are now investing
in other things because they know the oil's time is limited.
So their money from all the oil
is making money.
Even when oil dries up,
it's going to be,
do whatever the word is,
diversified into so many things
they're always going to have
like infinite money.
So I can pay 75 million
who gives a fuck
if it gives me good PR.
Yeah.
That golf league,
I don't think they're
making money on that.
Oh yeah, the live golf league.
The live golf league.
There's another one.
They're just throwing
crazy bread at it.
See us differently.
See us as you.
That term everyone's using is sports washing.
Sports washing.
Did you hear about that?
Like money laundering but through sports.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, like you can clean up the reputation of your country
through having some big sporting event, Olympics, whatever.
But this is, I thought this was funny.
This is the coach of Al Nassir that basically was like,
Cristiano, I wanted to bring Messi first.
And as like a joke during the press conference. And he was like, ah, I'm just joking. But it's like the fact that basically was like, Cristiano, I wanted to bring Messi first. And as like a joke
during the press conference.
And he was like,
ah, I'm just joking.
But it's like,
the fact that he's even
bringing it up
is like another nail
in the coffin.
It's like fucking up
his reputation,
his legacy.
Wow.
Again, I think his legacy
is going to be whatever,
top five ever or whatever it is.
It's not going to be that hurt
in the long run.
But right now,
yeah, this has been,
it was.
But to go from one to five.
Yeah.
That's not great.
Yeah.
You know?
You don't think he'll be two?
I think we, no, Pele and then.
Well, I mean, if you're going off of World Cups, it's Pele.
Yeah.
Pele has three World Cups.
Yeah.
That's the most remarkable competitive feat I've ever seen in the history of sports.
Three World Cups?
Yeah.
You're the best player on the team for all three?
Yeah.
Doesn't Usain Bolt have like three goals
in the 100-meter dash result?
That's also pretty fucking crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Isn't that like saying Julius Irving with 11,
or how many he has?
No, Bill Russell.
No, Bill Russell, yeah.
So the thing about Bill Russell is far fewer teams.
I think black people weren't even playing in the NBA.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm not trying to diminish what he did.
He's the greatest winner in the history of basketball.
There's no doubt.
But for me, one person affects a soccer match much less than one person affects a basketball game.
than one person affects a basketball game.
And the fact that he could be the best player on the team for three World Cups and win three,
that's a 12-year period.
That's nuts to me.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So I can understand why people make that argument.
Then there's the Maradona argument.
But like I said, nobody's coming close to him.
What's the next, I mean, does anybody else have two?
World Cups? Oh, maybe, I don't know. I think Ronaldo nobody's coming close to him. What's the next? I mean, does anybody else have two? World Cups?
Oh, maybe. I don't know. I think Ronaldo I actually know. No.
The OG Ronaldo. Oh.
I'm gonna look.
Mbappe almost
had it. Thierry Henry be hating
on new Ronaldo. He goes, there's only one
Ronaldo.
And that motherfucker Ronaldo in Brazil was nice,
bro. Yeah. I completely forgot about him.
Oh, no.
He's...
Balls and match.
Well, he had that little
patch in the front.
Remember he did?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, yeah.
So what do you think
happens in his first league
or his first season
with the league?
Who, Ronaldo?
Yeah.
I mean, I think he'll play
incredibly well
and he'll score
and he'll do everything
that they want him to do.
Will it be that relevant, though?
And this is different probably, but Beckham came to L.A.
I remember the Galaxy.
I lived in L.A. at the time.
Huge deal.
But very quickly we stopped giving a fuck.
I mean, very quickly.
And even if he was good, I don't know.
Did they win a championship, MLS Cup?
I don't know.
Globally, his relevance maintained just through his marriage and his ads or whatever,
but could Ronaldo's relevance decrease,
especially as a soccer player?
Yeah, I was thinking that
because like Andreas Iniesta,
one of the greatest players ever,
played for Barca forever,
played with Messi,
like fucking one of the best
like center mids ever,
now is playing
in a Japanese league.
And I didn't even know
he was playing in a Japanese league.
Yeah, he got like 30 million
or something like that.
Yeah, it was great money
to go and play in the Japanese,
but I was like,
I've never seen a highlight from it.
Also, the Japanese
would love his game.
That is the perfect player to go play in Japan.
Yeah.
Yeah, just pure technical greatness.
They don't want Ronaldo jumping around.
He's not flashy.
He's just like a hard worker.
Just gets it done.
But I'm like, yeah, I haven't seen any highlights from him playing in Japan.
I haven't seen anything come out.
I thought he retired.
Yeah, I thought he retired also.
I just don't remember what happened to him.
I just got sad about this.
Like whenever, I guess it's 75 million,
but whenever an NBA player is like playing in China,
it's always kind of sad.
Like imagine fucking LeBron in six years playing in Tokyo.
You'd be like, this is painful to watch.
Half a billion people live in the Middle East.
They're going to watch it in Arabic.
It's something to cheer on and say,
okay, let's develop soccer more and more.
I'm sure it's a little different. Please explain how.
It's a little different because
when an American player goes
to a league abroad, they're not making the money
that they would make. Fair enough, yeah.
And when these guys go to leagues abroad, they're actually
making more than they would make
at the Premier League. I do think even if LeBron
was getting $100 million from China,
we'd be like,
come on.
I don't know about that.
You ain't watching a game.
Oh, I'm not watching a single game.
I would watch a game.
LeBron against a bunch of Chinese dudes?
That'd be fucking awesome.
But there is a number, though.
That's interesting that you say that.
Because if he's making like $10 million to go over there,
I'm like, oof, man, he needs money.
Something's wrong with him financially.
But if he was making 275 or whatever
the fucking amount
was announced
with this Cristiano
or deal
like if he was
making money
that he was never
even close to making
per year
playing with the Lakers
or something like that
I'd be like
okay I can see
why you'd do that
and I think LeBron would
I think LeBron
would go to China
and play for 275 million
a year
in a heartbeat
yeah but that's still
we're still gonna be like he just went there Yeah, but we're still going to be like,
he just went there for the money.
We're not looking at you like,
you still got it.
I don't feel bad for him.
And for sure your relevance has gone down.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
No one's talking about you.
No one's talking about you.
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Okay, so I have a feeling if you put the money on Rinaldo's team,
I have a feeling that Saudi Arabia is not going to let this massive investment in Rinaldo flop.
His team has to win.
They have to win the championship.
They have to.
They must.
Let's see what happens.
I think that brings up a good point.
You're talking about the Middle East.
All those countries are probably getting those Saudi
League games. Everybody's watching
Cristiano now. By far the
biggest, most marquee player in that region.
So now the Saudi League becomes the most
dominant league in the Middle East. Yeah. And
Africa. Yeah.
Might be a good investment. Not a bad
investment. That's how it starts.
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Alright guys, we're back. Listen, we all went on vacation.
We all went on a long vacation.
Everybody went on vacation I think, except Alex.
Did you guys have a good time?
I had a great time. Amazing time.
The best. And I had an amazing time.
You did, even though you were staying here working.
Well, it wasn't all work. I had a lot of family time,
hung out with friends, and I also got some work done.
This is what he said
he was doing.
Remember when he was
guilt tripping us
because he was going
to hang out with his mom?
That's right.
That's right.
What you should do
on New Year's,
but it's fine.
On New Year's,
you should hang out
with your mom.
Holidays,
you should be with your mom.
Every New Year's,
do you spend New Year's
with your mom?
Yeah.
I think New Year's
might be the-
We do the 12 grape situation
and then I go out.
Oh, really?
Huh.
You always spend New Year's
with your mom?
Wow.
Oh, they do 12 grapes.
That's weird.
That's so weird.
No, New Year's Eve, the family's lit.
I enjoy it, but good for you.
The fact that your mom stays up to 12 is fascinating.
That's amazing.
Just one day a year, we do it.
Nah, my mom's asleep.
I can give her one day.
Yeah.
Try something.
Yeah, I don't know about all that, man.
Yeah, New Year's Eve. You don't want to do New Year's Eve with your parents, dude? No, I haven't done New all that, man. Yeah, New Year's.
You don't want to do New Year's with your parents, dude?
No, I haven't done New Year's with my parents.
I don't think I've ever spent a New Year's with my parents.
Really?
You don't even do Christmas with your family.
That's fascinating.
No, like a little bit, but yeah, we're not the big holiday type.
Yeah.
Were you ever as kids?
I mean, I liked Christmas.
Christmas was always really fun, but there was.
But at what point did you just tell your family,
like, yo, we don't do Christmas together anymore?
No, we would like.
That's just weird. He doesn't even travel for it. Like, we don't do Christmas together anymore? That's weird.
He doesn't even travel for it.
Let other people go through those.
Yeah, that's crazy.
He travels away.
Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Everyone hates traveling during the holidays,
and you go, oh, I'm going to do that.
I can't even wait to do that.
I'm not seeing my family on Christmas.
That is crazy.
I mean, I had dinner with my family every single day of the week.
Every single day of the week my whole life.
So think about that. We got a lot of family time in day of the week. Every single day of the week my whole life. So think about that.
We got a lot of family time in.
Yeah.
It wasn't like we put-
That's people.
What makes you unique about that?
Living with your family.
You understand I live with my family, right?
Like we hung out together-
We split the rent.
Every day before I went to college.
I almost thought that shit's fly.
I was like, oh, okay.
You didn't do that.
We didn't do dinner time at the table,
but we would still be at home together.
No, but that's totally different.
And you did when your pops was in town, obviously,
but he was living in other places as well.
The whole family would do dinner a lot.
But it's like, not everybody has the ability to do that.
Like Dove's family, obviously, because of divorce,
it was harder for you guys to like all.
Why are you throwing everybody's shoes
and placing them in the bus?
What is that?
What about Akash?
Do Akash.
Do him, do him.
My divorced parents, we all eat together.
Today, obviously, you guys do.
But talk about Akash's shitty family.
What I'm trying to explain to Akash is how rare his situation was.
And a lot of times with holidays, you bring family together that's not even really together.
So for Christmas, it's like,
hey, listen, both parents are going to stomach this
shit. It's good for the kids to be around each other.
Let's go do this. Thanksgiving, the family doesn't
fucking like each other. Let's just kind of go do it, whatever.
You had a very unique situation
where, and so did I, where we got to eat
dinner every single night with our family. You ate dinner every
single night with your family? I don't know if I buy that.
I think your parents were working or something like that.
No, I didn't eat dinner every single night with my family,
but you're still hanging out
with your family.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're a fucking dork.
Yeah, I know.
My dad got drunk and went to sleep.
This is what happened.
Fucking weirdo.
Why are you bringing up
everybody's trauma
so you can look like
the less shitty of a son?
What's that?
My point is,
you needed the holidays.
We didn't.
Why?
So my dad could get drunk
earlier on Christmas?
What the fuck are you talking about? No, so your parents could pretend to be a good family. We didn't. Why? So my dad could get drunk earlier on Christmas? What the fuck
are you talking about?
No, so your parents
could pretend to like
be a good family.
They don't pretend.
Like, my parents
were actually, you know,
good parents, you know?
Oh my God.
Hey, way to pay
them back for it.
All right.
I'll help you.
The price is in pay.
The point that I'm trying
to say is,
the point that I'm trying
to say is a very rare thing,
so we didn't have to put as much
value on those times. I don't think. No, your spin is crazy. Son, you built this shit on a house of
cards. This is a shaky ass argument. I'm telling you, it's just not a big deal. Like holidays were
not a big deal in my family. We did the whole thing, the fucking cookies and that kind of shit.
My parents put out the presents and it's like, okay, once we're old enough, all right, we got
the presents. I want this. Okay, boom. Dad,
what do you want? I don't care.
You know, we get him a tie.
Dad's getting fucked over
every Christmas. I think you're describing most families that still
go home for the holidays. Also,
you live in New York.
It's a walk
from your place to your parents' place.
Like, legitimately, I've
made the walk.
It's a walk and you're like,
I'm in T. I get to spend time with my family.
Oh, who am I?
You can't walk, son.
No, no, you're 100%.
I mean, look, I'll be honest.
I would never, like, leave this state
where my family's from.
That is, like, you have to be an absolute animal
of a human being for your, like, family to, like, raise you.
Yeah.
Where'd you go to college again?
You know what I mean?
That was for college.
That's just to learn.
To, like, further my life.
Education.
You know, my education.
To become an adult, really.
But, like, to actually, like, just willingly move to, like, be a clown.
I know.
To move.
I know.
You move states to be a clown?
Save this clip.
Save this clip.
Save this clip.
Yes. Tuck this clip away.. Save this clip. Imagine that.
Tuck this clip away.
Tuck this clip away, baby.
Next winter when he's outside freezing.
I only am willing to leave now because my dad's memory is gone.
But if my dad's memory wasn't gone, I would never leave him.
You got a mom.
Like, I'm like, look.
She better learn to forget. She better learn to forget
She better learn to forget
No my folks gotta come with me
Wherever we go
Fucking folks
My bros
The whole thing
That's perfect
Yeah
That'd be great
But yeah for real
I don't know why you did that
Are you getting rid of my holidays
In the same city
As long as we're in the same city
If anything goes wrong
Yeah
Do you know what I mean
Alright Like I actually care About my family Yeah goes wrong. Do you know what I mean? All right.
Like, I actually care about my family.
Yeah, no, you do.
Do you know what it is?
This is one thing I know about you.
Yeah, I fucking care.
Like, I know you go back,
how often do you go back?
Four times a year-ish.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Quarterly.
Yeah, and did you go back this year?
I did not go back this year.
Oh.
Yeah.
Where'd you go?
Where my wife told me to go.
That's your family now. That's your family now. Why didn't you go back? You my wife told me to go. That's your family now.
That's your family now.
Why didn't you go back?
You had plenty of time to go back and money.
Typically, we do Christmas with her family.
Thanksgiving with mine.
And then?
What do you mean?
So what happened?
Oh, that was vetoed.
We're not going.
We already went Thanksgiving.
Spent five days.
I always spend five days in a two-bedroom apartment with my folks.
And my folks are a lot.
I block out all the arguing, but, like, it's a lot.
To be like, okay,
we're going to go do that again
Christmas.
Let's go.
I mean, that's very reasonable.
He's looking for it.
I know, he's looking for it.
There was no holding out.
No, you already spent
some time with them.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's not that bad.
I mean, he's married,
so there's two families,
so he's spent one holiday
with one family.
Yeah, I think that's fine.
Yeah. So you spent some time this year family. Yeah, I think that's fine.
So you spent some time this year with your parents, and then you were going to spend some time with her parents this year as well.
Yeah.
But why is that wrong?
I don't know.
Oh, the way that you presented it was like it was vetoed.
I'm like, that sounds perfect.
Here comes a photo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would be willing to go home.
Early on, it was like, I want to go home Thanksgiving and Christmas.
She was like, I'm not going both.
Which is valid.
Yeah, you have to split that up.
Or you do one year this, one year yours, one year theirs.
That's a marriage thing that I wasn't prepared for somehow.
It makes the most sense.
But I was like, no, we're going to go see my folks both out.
Like, come on.
This is what I do.
You really thought that?
I'm an idiot.
Yeah. Of course I thought that. Dude, is really thought that? I'm an idiot. Yeah.
Of course I thought that.
Okay.
Dude, is it a surprise?
I don't know things about women.
Is that a surprise?
I don't know things about relationships.
It's a shocker.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Okay.
I hope you go see them more.
Hey, me too.
I'm going to make an effort.
Yeah, you should make an effort.
You should make an effort.
I'll tell you what.
When we're together, we're going to be together.
Not, hey,
I'm going to walk by your house
on Thursdays.
On my way to get
a fucking latte
at Starbucks.
I mean, isn't it
so much worse
if you went there
and just did that?
What do you mean?
Like, when you go home,
you have to go stay with them.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's not like you want to.
I want to.
What?
No, there's a generational flip happening.
There's a generational flip.
I'm just saying, you don't want to do it, you have to.
I want to.
You do?
Yes.
So why don't you go there more?
Again, I'm married, so you got to think about both of us.
No, but not only for holidays.
You can just go for any random weekend.
Yeah, I go about four times a year, typically. Typically. How often do you go to think about both of us. No, but not only for holidays. You can just go for any random weekend. Yeah, I go about four times a year typically.
Typically.
How often do you go to Aruba?
Not this year at all, dude.
Real fucking problem.
But you go on a lot of vacations.
You take a few trips, yeah.
Yeah, you could just go home instead.
Yeah, you went to Morocco.
You went all the way to Morocco and Burning Man
when you could have visited your family.
You could have been with your family, dude.
Hey, you're right.
When you're in Morocco and Burning Man,
I'm not going.
I'm going to see my folks.
You got it.
But I do like doing that. I like going to those
places instead of going to see my folks.
I'll admit that.
I don't. But you're saying you would rather
be with your folks than Aruba.
No, not Aruba.
So now you agree with me.
It does not get crazy. You agree with me then.
I'm saying you're in the same city.
If you're home in New York on Christmas.
Because I'm not an asshole like you and left my fucking family.
I stayed near my family. Why'd you leave
your family? Yeah. Ah, yeah, it's a job,
you know. If your folks lived in Idaho,
where would you be? You left your family to make no money in LA.
I did. And then left again to make no money
in New York. That's what you did?
The dream. The job? No, you left for a dream.
Let's say the dream.
Yo, come on, bro.
Hey, why'd you stay in New York?
I didn't have to leave.
I mean, you could save a lot of money.
Dude, you have a...
Oh, I saved a lot of money.
I used my parents.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You just bound yourself.
Yeah, I just bound myself.
Yeah.
No, no, I stayed here.
So you could ignore your parents and save money. How was your Christmas, Briggs? Yeah, how was your myself. Yeah. No, no, I stayed here. So you can ignore your parents
and save me.
How was your Christmas, Bricks?
Yeah, how was your Christmas?
How long has this shit gone on?
Yo, I live with my parents
way longer than you ever did.
Fucking loser.
Yo, think about that.
Dork.
You ain't live with your parents
until you're 30.
No, that's true.
Put in the time.
That's true.
Put in the time, bro.
That's true.
So I don't want to hear
nothing from none of y'all.
You was with your parents
until you was 30.
Yes.
Yeah.
Son, I was right next door
helping them with all their
fucking double clicks and shit.
Lemonade.
Exactly.
I put in way more hours
in my family than you have
in your whole life.
100% guaranteed.
I live with this guy.
He didn't help his parents
when he was a kid.
I know.
That's right.
I know.
That was such bullshit.
Nothing.
I never saw him go over
and help his folks
with nothing.
That's not true.
He just passed by.
That's entirely not true.
We're so loud.
That's entirely not true.
Leader of the witness.
That is entirely not true.
I put way more time in my family
than any of y'all hated.
Y'all, if y'all put as much time in as I did,
you take some time off.
I earned my hours.
I did my hours.
I got my $10,000.
It's off season. It's off season. It's my off season. Y'all need to put, you is some time off. I earned my hours. I did my hours. I got my 10,000 hours. It's off season.
It's my off season. Y'all need to put
You is embarrassing. You is embarrassing.
And you is embarrassing.
Y'all is embarrassing. Y'all need to put more time
with your family. Live with them until you're
30. What you need
to do is move back in for 10 years. That's what I did.
Yeah. Move back in for 10 years.
How was your fucking break, Scott?
That's what I want to know. This guy's fucking skiing. You're doing shit. Let's in there. How was your fucking break, Scott? How was your break? That's what I want to know.
This guy's fucking skiing, you're doing shit.
Okay, let's do it.
Ready?
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flavor It.
Four miles.
That's spinning, dude.
Four miles.
Okay, ready?
No, how was vacation?
Yeah, how was Colombia?
First, how was Costa Rica?
Costa Rica, Colombia.
I got food poisoning in both countries,
and I almost died surfing again.
So it was a really good trip.
How did you almost die?
Yeah, yeah, we get a text, like, randomly in the middle of the night.
Hey, what is that stuff you put in a wound to make it not get infected?
Oh, yeah, that was also when I cut up my foot.
I was like, bro, you have Google.
That wasn't even from surfing.
That was just from walking on rocks with my wife.
But we went,
yeah,
the surfing thing
was fucking,
it was weird.
So,
I,
on the flight down,
I,
I get this,
I start thinking,
but this is my first time,
I went back in the ocean once.
We served a bunch
in the wave pool.
Shout out to Scootin' Surf.
It's fucking awesome.
Everybody go check out
American Dream Mall.
And,
but I went out surfing with Casey Neistat once when we were, we went out to like the Rockaways. Shout out to Scoot and Surf. It's fucking awesome. Everybody go check out American Dream Mall. But I went out surfing
with Casey Neistat once
when we were,
we went out to like
the Rockaways
and then this is the first time
I've been like surfing back
and like, you know,
vacation,
like some real potential waves.
So like I have a good,
you know,
sense to obviously
what happened in Hawaii.
Oh, thank you.
Can you feel that now
that it's that thick?
What?
That water?
Sweat?
It was just,
no, it was boogers.
That was boogers. So thank you for telling me about that. I had this all my, that was a while I had it? What, that water or sweat? It was just, no, it was boogers. That was boogers.
So thank you for telling me about that.
I had this all my, that was a while I had it?
No, that was a whole episode.
We can restart.
We'll restart.
Was it that crazy?
I didn't see it.
Okay, so anyway, so we go.
I'm in Costa Rica.
I'm in Santa Teresa, Costa Rica.
I go.
We arrive that afternoon.
I go right to the surf shop to go get my board.
I go.
They show me the board,
and I check out the leash of the board
and I put on the
the leash
and the Velcro
it feels like worn
you know when Velcro
feels like worn
feels like it falls off
and I tell the guy
and I'm like
hey
is this leash
kind of like off
he's like
nah it's not a big deal
don't worry about it
I'm like yeah
but look at the Velcro
it kind of feels off
right
and he goes
ah but look
if you put it on
all the way and then pull it doesn't fall off he put it on pulls it. I'm like, yeah, but look at the Velcro. It kind of feels off, right? He goes, ah, but look, if you put it on all the way and then pull, it doesn't fall off.
He put it on, pulls it, nothing.
I'm like, I don't feel comfortable.
He walks away.
I'm like, I don't want to be that fucking guy.
But I'm feeling like a little like anxious.
And I don't even want to bring this up.
But like on the flight down, I had this weird fucking thought that like my leash was going to break.
Okay.
So that's feeding into like my paranoia
about this leash
and obviously we're going
back in the ocean.
There's like some
fucking real waves.
This is like,
you know,
this is-
Wow, funny story.
Okay?
You're telling a serious story,
Al.
Come on.
It's disrespectful.
I'm about to leave
the surf shop
and I just go,
fuck it.
I'm like,
dude,
can I just have another leash?
Oh, wow.
He goes,
good for you.
Yeah, sure.
Get another leash.
I go, okay, fine.
Thank God.
Get the other leash.
Put on the other leash.
We'll go surfing that night.
Everything's good.
Had a fun surf session as the sun sets.
Beautiful.
Go out the next day.
I'm surfing.
Next day, it's fucking pretty big.
I'm by myself out there.
You know, there's other people also surfing,
but I'm surfing by myself.
So you think of that a little bit,
but it's really nice, relaxing.
The waves are kind of heavy.
Like it's a lot of fucking water moving
and I'm exhausted.
And I'm like, okay, I got to go fucking, I'm going surfing.
I wake up every morning like six o'clock in the morning.
I'm like exhausted.
I've been surfing for a few hours.
And I'm trying to paddle and I realize I'm caught in a little riptide.
And a riptide basically is like when water is funneling back out to the ocean.
So there's this flow of water back out of the ocean.
And you can't paddle against it. So what you do is you paddle across to the ocean. So there's this flow of water back out of the ocean and you can't paddle against it.
So what you do is you paddle across to the side, right?
And you can see the riptide.
You can feel it.
You just cannot paddle against it.
So I'm like, okay, let me just fucking paddle across
and get the hell out of here.
But I'm absolutely fucking exhausted.
All of a sudden I'm paddling across and a set comes in
and I'm like, oh, I'll take this wave.
I paddle, get the wave, ride the wave, ride the wave, try to do a little
maneuver, fall off my board, everything's
fine, I get up, still in the fucking riptide
and another wave
is coming and I
dive under that wave
and I feel this tug on my board,
right? Oh, shit. And then
all of a sudden, there's
no tug at all.
And my leg is really free.
And I pop up and I stick my leg out and the leash is snapped.
Not the Velcro went off.
The fucking rubber of the leash.
I've never happened to me the entire time that I've gone surfing.
I've been surfing since I was a child.
The rubber snapped.
I'm in a riptide and I'm exhausted.
Yeah. Okay?
The board
is in front of me, paddling
into the riptide.
Okay?
I go, and I'm sitting here,
and I'm thinking like a million miles a second.
I go, okay, I probably
have enough energy to paddle to that
board, but if
a wave takes that board away before I get there, now I don't have enough energy to paddle out that board. But if a wave takes that board away before I get there,
now I don't have enough energy to paddle out of this riptide
and I'm just getting sucked out to sea.
Yeah.
I go, fuck it.
I paddle my ass off for the fucking board.
And I see the board.
It's maybe 20 feet in front of me.
I'm paddling against this riptide.
Granted, the board is also in the riptide,
so it's not moving that much further away from me.
I'm paddling my fucking ass off.
All of a sudden, a much further away from me. I'm paddling my fucking ass off.
All of a sudden, a wave comes from behind me.
I'm like, Alex, to me right here, is the board.
Wave comes, covers me, takes the board.
I pop up again.
It's maybe by the TV.
Thank God the wave didn't take it too far.
I paddle, get on the board, and am able to get a fucking wave in and then go in.
Exhausted?
Exhausted. And I look at the fucking leash, and there are these little cuts on the leash, the one they were switched to.
I'm like, how the fuck would those cuts be on the leash?
Imagine.
No.
You ever notice what people do with leashes on surfboards? They wrap them on the leash. Imagine. No. You ever notice what
people do with leashes
on surfboards?
They wrap them around
the fins.
The boards are left out
in the sun baking
and it melts
the leash a little
which is rubber
and that softness
creates a little bit
of a fray
that then is pressed up
against the fins
that kind of cut it.
Crazy.
Fucked up that I had that thought that I was going to snap the leash and then the fucking thing snapped.
Damn.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, that's wild.
You did the same thing about Burning Man.
Do you remember that?
No, what is it?
We were on the way to Burning Man and you're like, bro, I just have this bad feeling, dude.
I just like, I like woke up in the middle of the night.
There was a fucking like explosion.
Like, it's like fucking crazy.
I was like, yeah, we're at Burning Man.
They're about to burn the thing.
There's going to be an explosion. And you were like, yeah, it's just weird. And then all of a sudden we're sitting a fucking explosion. It's fucking crazy. I was like, yeah, we're at Burning Man. They're about to burn the thing. There's going to be an explosion.
And you were like,
yeah, it's just weird.
And then all of a sudden
we're sitting in the RV.
Oh, fuck.
And then the back
of the RV explodes.
Yeah, the propane tank.
Literally, the propane tank
creates this giant
crater in the earth.
I did have that.
But he said it before.
That was the weird part.
He was like, bro,
I just knew something
was going to happen.
I was like, well,
this wasn't an explosion.
I had a nightmare about that.
It was just air
or something that leaked out. He's going to be psychic Chelsea from now on. That's what I'm saying. I was like, well, this wasn't an explosion. I had a nightmare about that shit. It was just air or something that leaked out.
He's going to be psychic Chelsea from now on.
That's what I'm saying.
I had premonitions, bro.
I didn't have any premonitions about my food poison
that I was going to get in both fucking countries.
Why did you think of that?
That affected you probably way worse.
I don't know, but I can't do it.
I can't do it anymore.
Being tired in the ocean.
Can't do what?
He's a weak man.
Had you stayed with the original leash,
that probably wouldn't have happened.
That's the craziness of it.
So what's the lesson?
What's the lesson from Allah?
What is Allah trying to tell you?
Allah says be grateful for what you have.
Wow.
Be grateful for what you have.
That's deep.
But as far as the food goes, listen, I love other countries.
I love traveling.
I love all that shit.
But like, no.
Amman's only for him.
It's not about being, it's the food.
I'm not built for it.
What did you eat?
The food.
But like hot food?
The food.
And we were in a group of, now skip over to Columbia.
We were in a group of eight to 10 the entire trip.
Yeah.
Well, everyone else probably got sick, right?
Nobody else got sick.
Just me and my wife got sick.
But I ate-
We all got sick together.
That's decent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it still sucks. I mean- Great trip over there, decent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it still sucks.
Great trip over there, right?
Oh, dude, yeah. Costa Rica was great. I mean,
Colombia was fucking great. Dude, Costa Rica's a fascinating
fucking place. Like, there's no military
like, at all, right?
And it's a really
interesting place because it's the only
country in Central America
and maybe even South America that has
almost no cartel presence. And you're like, why not? Why that has like almost no cartel presence.
And you're like, why not? Why does this place have no cartel presence? And I think it's a couple
reasons. One, there's no military in like 1950s. They're like, yeah, we're not doing that shit.
America's got our back. They're not going to let us get taken over by like El Salvador,
Nicaragua. Like that's a proxy war with Russia. They got us. And then two, they basically invested,
they basically tried not to lure nighttime tourists.
If you try to lure nighttime tourists, they need drugs.
Once there's drugs, there's somebody to service the drugs,
which is the cartels.
And once there's cartels, there's violence and then danger everywhere.
I think this was the area you were at.
Because they have the other part of Costa Rica that's like
the resorts, casinos,
a lot of prostitution. There's a lot of
sex work. There's a lot of sex work,
and there's no doubt that there is.
But compared to every other Honduras.
There are parts of Mexico that are
not under control of the government. They're under the
control of the cartels. There's parts of
Honduras, there are parts of El Salvador that are under the control of the gangs. They're under the control of the cartel. There's parts of Honduras, there's parts of El Salvador that are
under the control of the gangs. Like, they
just run it. And I think also because it
falls south of
Colombia. So it's like... No, no, it's north.
Oh, Costa Rica is north? Oh, okay.
So, yeah. Yeah, so it's like,
I think it's simply, they just invested in
daytime activities. Come here, do yoga.
There are parts that have a lot of sex trafficking
and that kind of shit. And naturally, you see it formed around parts that have a lot of sex trafficking and that kind of shit. And naturally you see it
formed around that.
But a lot of these communities
are built around like
yoga, exploration.
Zip line, feed a monkey.
Go to the jungle,
do these types of things.
And if I'm like
developing country.
I was amazed when I was there
that like most people
spoke like four languages
and shit.
I was like.
They put all their money
that they would have spent
in the military.
They put that shit in
healthcare and education.
So a lot of them speak English.
Like it's a healthy.
And also another thing is like even if you were going to try it, I've never seen a country that is so dense in terms of jungle.
Even if you wanted to invade it, good luck.
They don't need a military.
It's called the trees.
Yeah.
You know how we see Russia invade in Ukraine?
There's just this nice paved road where you take the fucking tanks down and that's how you get into Ukraine you can't yeah like Costa Rica is like a
bunch of little pockets of communities that were kind of carved out of the jungle themselves and
they just kind of exist on their own yeah like even this place that I was in Santa Teresa it was
just like a bunch of Israelis uh a bunch of Israelis and Argentines just went there and like started this
town and like
it's loosely connected
with the municipality it's like a little part away
but it's kind of like their own
and it's just like you can do that in Costa Rica
this is what
Santa Teresa was it was like the closest
thing to being untouched
while at the same time you can have like an amazing
sushi dinner
you're on an amazing sushi dinner.
You're on an ATV and crossing rivers.
I crossed rivers in an ATV.
It felt like some fucking Yellowstone
shit. It was fire.
And then later that night,
I'm having an Italian-style
pizza in a restaurant.
And that is
rare. I would invest in Costa Rica.
Like Costa Rica is fire.
Yeah.
And yeah,
it's just like really cool.
Surfing,
the surf was so fucking consistent
and like,
yeah.
So how was that going from like
naturally beautiful,
awesome Costa Rica
to then going to Cartagena?
Listen,
I got a shout out to Luis.
Luis took care of us.
Your boy Luis,
he was fucking unbelievable.
Like the most, like when you imagine like a Latin,
what is it called?
Like when they take care of you when you come,
what is that called?
Hospitality.
Hospitality.
Like it was that times a million.
Like the guy gave us one of his security guards.
He's booking everything for, I mean, it was the most,
I've never been welcomed in such a way in my entire life.
It was absolutely amazing.
Columbia is fascinating because it is the most inefficient place
I've ever been in my entire life.
Like, you have to ask for the bill a minimum of four times
before you get the bill.
Like, can I have the bill?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then they just go.
Four times.
It's like, do you want me to pay you? Like, do you want, and then when you're paying
for something at the register, the thing to charge the card is never there. And they're never shocked
about that. Like you think you just leave one by the register, but you're like, I'll just pay with
the card and they'll go, oh, let me go. Like somebody could go to that country and just
organize it real quick
and it would be
a fucking superpower
yeah
but there's no urgency whatsoever
I mean it's just like
the most
the most efficient people
are the people trying to sell you
like maracas on the streets
and I found out
they're not even trying to sell you maracas
the maracas are a front
to sell you coke
oh hilarious
so they come up
they're like you want maracas
maracas maracas
yeah I really got the cocaine
I don't give a fuck about this
coke toosie
exactly yeah yeah it was all anybody selling you anything on the street is selling you Oh, hilarious. So they come up, they're like, you want maraca, maraca, maraca? Yeah, I really got the cocaine. I don't give a fuck about this maraca. Coke 2C, Coke 2C. Exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
It was all, anybody selling you anything on the street is selling you cocaine.
That's what it's all about.
But it was really cool.
We had a great time.
You had a good time?
And then I got sick, of course, because my stomach.
His girl was sick the day before, powered through lunch.
You could tell, I mean, she was gray, green,
but just a trooper.
This guy gets dressed up for New Year's,
get to this, it's like a big property,
a really elaborate New Year's Eve.
11.30 p.m., the guy couldn't muster it out.
Miles, you're going to insert that photo
of this is what he looks like right here.
30 minutes before New Year's.
He said, we got to go.
And the two of them did.
Yeah, I left at 11.30.
Where did you celebrate New Year's?
We walked out of a cab entering the old city of Cartagena.
Oh, that's great.
So what was it?
Was it just liquid?
Just coming out liquid?
No, no, no.
It wasn't even shitting or anything like that.
It was just like absolute exhaustion.
Same thing happened to me
when I was in Costa Rica.
I just ate something.
This is FDA.
This is what I was telling
everybody here.
FDA, I need FDA.
You don't get in here
unless you're FDA.
That's the new thing.
I don't need to like...
You'd be shitting crazy here too.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm good.
But that's with FDA.
Think about that.
Listen, not enough respect
goes on FDA.
If it's FDA,
you don't get sick.
And the beauty of that
is that there's even food
that they deem not food, right?
Like they looked at like
even the Subway bread.
They're like,
this is yoga mats, right?
But like,
it don't make you sick.
Yeah.
You can eat it.
It's not food,
but you can eat it.
When I go have food
in other countries,
I get sick.
Why is it when I have yoga mats,
I don't get sick?
Yeah.
Because FDA doesn't make you sick.
You've all always eaten
McDonald's or whatever you went.
Yellow number five kills you much later. We don't know that for a fact. We don't know that for a fact. Yeah. Because FDA doesn't make you sick. You've all always eaten McDonald's wherever you went. Yellow number five
kills you much later.
We don't know that for a fact.
We don't know that for a fact.
The vaccine's FDA approved.
We don't know that for a fact.
And also,
it wasn't FDA approved.
They were kind of bullied
into doing that kind of stuff.
The FDA would never approve that initially.
But they were bullied.
But the FDA,
if you eat FDA,
you don't get sick.
I don't know what else
will happen to you,
but you don't get sick.
Fact.
It's FDA.
I need FDA.
You might get preserved from the inside
and then eventually just fall over somewhere.
Maybe that happens, but I won't get sick.
Get mummified.
Dig up any American.
I think they're mummified.
I think they're perfectly mummified.
What, the inside of the stomach?
Yeah, I think just all Americans, yeah, right now.
We love mummies.
Nobody was ever upset when they found a mummy, right?
They're like really excited.
They're like, wow, you can see the teeth.
This is teeth from 10,000 years ago. That's true. This is FDA.
And I had enough
of the people saying like, oh, the food isn't real
in America or whatever like that. It doesn't matter.
It works.
And my stomach doesn't work
out there. And I
like it doesn't work. It's like
Europe is not like that. Say again? In Europe?
They have FDA.
They have more strict FDA.
They have the French drug.
Their shit is better.
They have FDA.
There's no FDA when your fucking Colombian grandma's pit sweat is dripping all over my rapist.
I don't need that.
We need it.
I need FDA.
Because FDA don't play that shit.
Fake boobs.
It's not real, but it's better.
There it is.
Yep.
And listen, I understand there are some limitations with the FDA.
And they do be fucking shit up by making it healthy for you.
By making it healthy for you, what do you mean?
For example, they will not allow your shit to go bad.
Ah.
Okay, so the FDA goes, I don't want none of this shit spoiling.
If it's spoiled, it got to get off the shelves. So, so the FDA goes, I don't want none of this shit spoiling. If it's spoiled,
it gotta get off the shelves. So what do the companies do? They put all these preservatives
in the food to make it not spoil.
But the FDA was right.
The FDA's trying to protect us.
The company's putting the crazy shit in so it don't get spoiled.
Yes. Sure.
FDA, you never go wrong with
FDA. What about kosher? Why can't you do
kosher? Say again? Is it FDA?
Well, some, yeah.
I'll do kosher FDA.
Was Oxycontin FDA approved?
Yeah, yeah.
Does it stop your pain?
Does it stop your pain or does it make you sick?
It was the greedy doctors that did it.
Does it make you sick?
I think it makes you sick in the end, yeah.
No, it doesn't.
Not taking it makes it sick.
Thank you.
Yep.
You can't tell me one thing that's FDA that makes you sick.
What about halal?
You go to like a different country.
Is it FDA?
You went to Morocco,
you ate halal.
It wasn't FDA,
but it was halal.
There's fucking bugs
all over the halal.
Okay?
There are.
There's bugs all over it.
That's not FDA.
Bugs are FDA.
That's not FDA.
How are you going to eat
the inside of a chicken
but you won't eat a bug?
Come on, bro.
What do you mean?
Those are the same?
Why do you think a bug is going to ruin it, but
you'll eat dead animal?
What are you trying to say right now? Because I'm confused.
You might be making a point. It might be me.
It might be me. I'm saying, why won't you...
But it sounds like you're comparing insects to
chickens. Yeah. I'm just saying...
Meat is meat, is what he's saying. Oh, you think
insects is meat? It's close to meat. Can you look up
into the FDA and see if the insects is meat?
I'm pretty sure the insects ain't meat in there. What about FDA insects? Would you Can you look up into the FDA and see if the insects is meat? Because I'm pretty sure
the insects ain't meat
in the FDA.
What about FDA insects?
Would you eat FDA insects?
If the FDA approves it,
it's not,
this is not like
a passion project for me.
This is FDA.
Okay.
So,
you know what I'm saying?
If it's FDA,
it can go in here
and then everything's good.
If it's not FDA, we're rolling the dice and every time I roll the dice, I crap out.
So what are you going to eat when you go abroad now?
Do they have an FDA?
No.
Some countries have FDA.
Not a lot of these places.
In those countries?
The cool places?
I will eat fast food.
Oh.
I will eat McDonald's.
You can bring your own food.
You can bring, like, bars or something.
I might do that.
Or I might find the most FDA type foods in those places.
I was a wild boy.
I'm eating street arepas.
This is not built for that.
That was wild.
Yeah, this is not built for that.
Arepas are not.
Nah, they're cheesy.
The tacos, everything.
It was great.
It was a great meal.
We had the same exact meal 10 times in a row.
Five nights in Colombia.
Lunch, dinner, lunch, dinner, 10 times.
Arepas,
cold like vegetables, like whatever washed with the
is Colombian water good?
Because like in India, you're not eating anything that's not cooked.
If it's washed, cold, tomatoes
even, I'm not eating it. The only thing that we avoided
was... But isn't that crazy?
Because they don't have FDA. But if they
had FDA, you don't have to worry about that. But someone in New York
doesn't have FDA. I'm sorry, what did you say?
Little kids selling stuff on the train, you think that's FDA?
What are you talking about?
All those candies they sell you on the train for their soup, for their sports team.
Halal, not FDA.
Halal cart's not FDA.
Some lady selling...
What?
I'm sorry.
Do you not see the letter outside to let you know what letter it is?
It says F.
Of a cart?
For FDA.
This guy's crazy.
You're crazy.
This guy's absolutely crazy.
Carts have letters?
Not only that, the cart food is more fresh because you can't keep old food on the cart.
The shit you get that day is the shit that's cooked.
Diner coffee?
That shit is super FDA.
You think diner coffee is FDA?
Mark.
I cannot eat.
I can't wait to explain this to you.
He's flabbergasted.
Listen, first of all, diner coffee is absolutely FDA.
Why?
Because the grounds are FDA.
You can't get the grounds in here.
Where do you think they're getting them from?
You think they're going to Kenya and they're throwing it in a backpack?
No, but they got FDA, but then they got un-FDA when they got put into a gross machine.
I'm sorry.
Things start FDA and then they become less FDA when they get un-FDA.
What is making the machine gross?
Is hot water going through it, Mark?
What the fuck could happen with hot water?
Some guy putting his hands there.
He's trying to clean it.
He's like fucking grabbing beans and shit.
How do you put your hands in the middle of a coffee machine, Mark?
You put the bag in and the bag touches the inside.
You get fucking E. coli.
Come on.
Now you get bacteria if hot water passes the thing and then sits there. Why do you got to clean a coffee machine? You put the bag in and the bag touches the inside. You get fucking E. coli. Now you get bacteria
if hot water
passes the thing
and then sits there
and then gets cleaned out.
Why do you got to clean it?
No, but if it stays hot
then the fucking hot water
You get pneumonia.
You know what?
You know what?
Y'all risk it on that.
Okay.
Okay?
You don't have it
and I'm going to take my risk
on hot water cleaning shit.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to roll the dice
on hot water cleaning some shit.
What do you think's in a repas, bro?
That's hot water. No, it's not. That's oil I'm like. I'm going to roll the dice on hot water, clean as shit. What do you think's in a repas, bro? That's hot water.
No, it's not.
That's oil from some grandma's tit sweat.
That's Colombian grandma tit sweat.
What, oil?
That is Colombian abuela tit sweat,
and it's dripping all over my ribs.
Are you sure it's from the food?
Because you didn't have any diarrhea.
You didn't have any vomiting.
You just felt sick.
I have diarrhea today.
Maybe that's from coming back eating FDA.
That's not true.
When did you get back?
I got back last night.
I had one meal.
Do you know what it was?
That's the one that got you sick.
But you don't even know what it was.
What was it?
You got to make it up.
No, I had fucking chicken matzo ball soup, so it's them.
Yeah.
Jeez.
Oh, that'll do it too.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
Yeah, yeah.
Matzo balls are overrated dishes. Yeah So I can't fuck with that shit.
Overrated dish.
Yeah, I can't fuck with that shit.
But no, Columbia was fine.
We had a great time.
It was a lot of fun.
I love the adult couples trip.
We all want adult couples.
And I want to find a way to master the adult couples New Year trip.
So it was 10 of us, and I just want to find a way to lock that in every year,
completely mastered what the experience needs to be.
Because what was the benefit of having the group?
He got to bring Nick.
Oh, yeah.
Old Nicky.
Dove doesn't get, we get to bring Dove's couple.
Oh, that's way more fun.
Shout out to Nick.
That's a good date, actually.
That'd be more fun than whoever you're going to bring, honestly.
Yeah, agreed. Yes. I mean, yeah. Yeah. You wanted to Nick. We love Nick. That's a good date, actually. That'd be more fun than whoever you're going to bring, honestly. Yeah,
agreed.
Yes.
I mean,
yeah.
Yeah.
You wanted to go in these,
I mean,
I did expect more
out of Columbia.
A little overrated.
Talk to me about that.
Wow.
Talk to me about that.
I feel guilty saying it
because Luis was so great
and he's been such an
amazing ambassador
for the country.
Just con girls.
Oh,
the attractive women,
you're saying.
Yeah.
You see the beautiful Colombians in Miami,
and you think that they're just everywhere in Colombia.
The reputation, I think.
They've been discovered.
They're out of here.
Yeah, I would agree.
Still beautiful girls, but not what's, you know.
I think that Dove is on to something.
Yeah.
You might be on to something.
I think Dove's on to something.
But also, like, the city, it was really cool.
It was really interesting.
But, like, if you're looking for the Spanish colonial experience, like, that's what you're trying to see with, like, an indigenous vibe.
So far, I haven't seen one that beats Mexico.
So you're going further for a not that much more unique experience that doesn't also beat Mexico.
Mexico will always be top of my list, too.
Mexico is undeniable.
Bro, Mexico is the fucking goat.
Bro.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
It hits every level.
You were in Mexico.
I was just in Mexico.
It was great.
You hit indigenous.
You hit Spanish colonial.
You hit food.
The best food possible.
Food is fire.
Ugh.
Talk to us.
Talk to us.
We would go to this house.
It was like a house that was turned into a restaurant.
We went there like two or three times, and I just got like fried whole fish.
They just deep fried a snapper, pan fried a snapper.
It was so fucking good.
Maybe the best fish I've ever eaten.
Everybody's so friendly. It was great to get sun. You know, you don't get any sun That was the, it was so fucking good. Maybe the best fish I've ever eaten. Everybody's so friendly.
It was great to get sun.
You know,
you don't get any sun
in New York,
the shitty place
that we live.
Why would you leave
your family
for such a shitty place?
Dude.
What a selfish thing to do.
Whenever you want
to go back to Texas,
I'll let you.
Whenever you want
to go back to Texas.
Back to Texas,
I'd never leave.
I would never leave
my family, dude.
I'll bring them with me.
We'll see.
I'll bring them with me. We'll see. I'll bring them with me.
We'll see.
We will.
We will.
Why didn't you bring yours?
Where?
To here.
My mom is not going to survive New York City.
You would say that.
Mom, you can't make it here.
She moved across the world.
She made it in Texas.
You don't think she can make it in New York?
No, physically, she's like, she sprained her fucking wrist,
almost broke her hand at my wedding,
walking onto the dance floor.
You sprained your ankle
on a floor?
That's where I get it from.
That's not,
imagine me in 40 years.
I gotta protect this woman.
That's fair.
That's fair.
All right, but go on.
We went to Punta Mita, Mexico.
It was amazing.
Beautiful trip,
beautiful place.
I will say I had,
I texted you about this.
I had like a real
existential crisis
because we were staying
at like a nice resort. The gayest crisis. And I saw like- It infuriated me when you texted you about this. I had like a real existential crisis because we were staying at like a nice resort.
The gayest crisis.
And I saw like-
It infuriated me when you texted me about this.
I saw like-
Oh, is it gayer than your leash breaking?
He got tired in the water, Alex.
He was swimming.
Oh my God, I gotta swim.
Bro, he was swimming the whole time and he got so tired.
Bro, imagine a black guy making fun of you for swimming, bro.
That's crazy.
Imagine. Imagine how shitty your swimming story is. He surf of you for swimming, bro. That's crazy. Imagine.
Imagine how shitty your swimming story is.
He surfs all fucking day, bro.
You're not even scared.
You're like, swimming?
Come on.
My thing was like, why'd you go for the board?
Swim in.
Leave the fucking board.
I'm in the riptide.
I can't swim in.
But you can't swim to the left and then get out that shit.
I don't think I put enough pressure on how exhausted I was.
So getting back to the board helps
just so you can like...
Because then you can float.
You can float on the board.
Exactly.
I was dead.
But anyway, gone.
It's way funnier to call it gay.
So you were right.
Also, having a premonition about it
is some shit your girl would say, right?
That is crazy.
The premonition shit
is fucking crazy.
That's some shit your girl would say.
You're a tourist, bro.
I just had a feeling.
You're such a tourist. I just had a... I switched out, bro. I just had a feeling. I just had a feeling.
I switched out the leash.
It wasn't a feeling.
I acted on it.
This is a real thing that happened.
You caused it.
And I went back and I told the dude the thing broke.
He wasn't even that excited or nothing.
Like, the guy that I...
Because he knew.
Because he knew.
Like, you deserved it.
He was right.
He was right.
That motherfucker was right.
He understands what the spirits are trying to do.
He really was.
Okay, go, go.
Keep going.
I'm at this resort.
I'm seeing rich people, which is already kind of like...
Keep in mind how gay mine was.
And then put on a...
I say, you'll get it.
I saw in five days, maybe 10 minorities the entire time.
It was so white.
Not staff.
What's the name of this place?
What is it called?
It was the St. Regis.
Oh.
Punta Mita.
You should book it.
You'll love it.
It's my favorite place.
But I was like, yo, if I have kids, if we make as much money as I want to make,
they're going to be surrounded by white people all the time.
It was already hard for me.
I barely know anything about being Indian.
And I wasn't, like, I grew up with a bunch of Indians outside of school.
My kids aren't going to have that as much.
How do you not make them super just lost?
You asked me?
Because you're the only person who would get it.
Yeah, no, yes.
I get being the only black guy in a lot of fucking spaces.
And rich people are fucking weird, dude.
I saw one, people were bringing their nannies on the trip, whatever.
Can we just address this one thing that you said, though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Can we talk about that?
Yeah.
Maybe you don't go to Mexico,
maybe you go back to hang out with your family.
Yeah, fucking sellout. You know your family's Indian. Fucking sellout. Your family's to Mexico. Maybe you go back to hang out with your family. Yeah.
Fucking sellout. You know your family's Indian.
Fucking sellout.
Your family's all Indian, actually.
You can go hang out with your family, you sellout.
I need to go to the St. Regis.
Oh, I feel so out of place here.
I'm too rich.
Hey, do you feel...
I wonder where home is.
How about home?
Do you feel less guilty about ignoring your family?
I'm too rich right now.
What am I going to do?
How can I relate to these poor Indians?
I'm too rich. Literally, you're texting me, and I'm too rich right now. What am I going to do? How can I relate to these poor Indians? I'm too rich.
Literally, you're texting me, and I'm like, I can't believe I'm reading this.
Do you feel less guilty about ignoring your parents?
I have a huge fear about being too rich.
I might have too much money.
And all these other Indians that are doctors and engineers won't be able to do things with me.
Son, where were they?
Come stay.
With their families.
Let's go.
No, son.
Yes.
Indians ain't spending New Year's like that. Christmas, cool. We're coming after Christmas. Come be there. No, son. Yes. Indians ain't spending New Year's like that.
Christmas, cool.
We're coming after Christmas.
Come be there.
No black people.
It got to the point when you saw other minors,
you would be like, hey, hey.
You were like talking to each other.
Nobody else talking.
All of us are like, hey, how are you?
Son, weird.
I went to the whitest resort.
I didn't know.
I just booked a nice resort.
Regis?
There's only one Regis.
Think of the Regis that you know.
He's a saint.
He was not called a saint.
He was a mad fucking Catholic.
I think it was just the time that he went.
When you travel New Year's at a destination location,
it's going to be priced even more,
so you kind of get people priced out.
But I went to St. Regis in Puerto Rico,
and it was pretty mixed.
I need to go there.
Listen, it's a very easy way to figure this out. Does Southwest
go there?
It's very simple.
Do you want to be around more minorities?
Do you want to be around more minorities? If Southwest goes there,
you'll see plenty more minorities.
White people maximize their Bonvoy points.
St. Regis is a Bonvoy partner.
Oh yeah, that's going to do it.
These were wealthy people.
Go to India!
Go to India! You were crying about being too rich. That's what it do it. They book up way in advance. These were wealthy people. Go to India. Book way in advance. Go to India.
You were crying about being too rich.
That's what it seemed like in the text.
And I was like, I can't believe that they're saying, I'm having an existential crisis.
And it's like, go to India.
You don't got to go to Mexico.
I'm not around Indians.
There's a country where there's a lot of Indians.
I feel Indian most of the time.
Not when I'm around you guys, but most of the time I feel Indian.
I just don't want my kids to grow up.
Like, I think the reason LeBron is so, like, openly, like, not militant, but, like, pro-black loudly,
I do think part of it is you grow up, you're sending your kids to the same school as the fucking Kardashians.
You're looking at your kids like, how are they going to know anything about who they are?
This is just the whitest world I've put in.
But you don't have to live in Bel Air or Beverly Hills.
You can live in
an Indian community.
The question you have to decide is,
do you want the fancy
white people shit
more than you want
the Indian cultural shit?
Yeah, I think you have to choose.
But you can live
in Edison, New Jersey
or wherever that shit is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, you can,
but if you make the decision
you don't want that.
I don't want that Indian.
Edison alone.
Well, come on. Okay, so want that Indian. Edison. Edison alone.
Well, come on. Okay, so that's the existential crisis.
It's not,
am I going to make too much money?
Because with money,
you have the choice
to be as Indian as you want.
The existential crisis is,
do I want to live that Indian shit
or do I want to live this fancy shit?
Yes.
That's the existential crisis.
That I would have much more,
has less. That's what I was trying to say. That's what you were saying That I would have much more...
That's what I was trying to say.
That's what you were saying.
Oh, is that what you got from it?
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't get it.
I didn't get it.
He's like, it sucks because, like, yes, he's successful,
and he wants to be in these places,
but it sucks that the downside of being in these places,
like, I see less and less of my peep.
To me, that's way more vulnerable.
To me, that's the vulnerability is the-
That's what I was trying to say.
Exactly.
Is the admission of, I want to do this fancy shit.
I want to do this fancy shit.
I want to live that life.
That happens to be white people shit.
And it's not even white, like regular white,
like rich white, wealthy white.
I feel uncomfortable around them motherfuckers.
Son, this is the craziest thing.
People are bringing their nannies on this trip.
I'm not going to judge that.
Fine.
It blew my mind.
Two days in a row,
you see these people at breakfast,
the same families.
I saw a family
that was all eating breakfast
and then their nanny
was sitting away from the table,
back against the wall,
not eating,
just like getting the food
and shit for the kids
and then comes sitting in her chair
and is like,
yo, I think she might have had food
at one point,
but like eating it over a chair
with no, it's like, yo, let her sit with you. This is. That's a really, that is a really
interesting, that's a really interesting situation that I've seen some people deal with that is
incredibly difficult. And I was talking to my wife about like, what is the best way to handle it?
The best way that we would handle it is you just make that person part of your family and they're part of all these things, right? Some of these people that have
a lot of money, they have a lot of staff working for their home. And one way of dealing with that
is while also trying to like have some semblance of privacy. It's almost like the New York effect.
You know how like New Yorkers, when we walk down the street, we just kind of pretend nobody else is there.
We have our conversations at a level of volume
wherever people can hear, and we're just like,
everybody's just kind of going to ignore it.
And what they do is, in order to have this home life,
they ignore the staff.
And when you view it as an outsider,
especially for the first time, you're like,
this is inhuman.
Yeah.
And I tried to be understanding of it when I saw some people do it.
And my perception is it's the only way that they can have a private family moment
while still having the comforts of the staff.
I'm not trying to cap for them.
Please understand it.
I'm trying to justify why they ignore another human being that's in their presence.
And I assume it's because they're trying to create normalcy in their home.
I said I was going to try not to judge.
Now I'm going to judge a bit.
What was throwing me is like I would see her like putting cream cheese on the bagel for the kids or whatever.
And it's like, yo, you could just, if you want privacy, you don't need your nanny there to get the kids bagels at the buffet and breakfast.
You could do that much as a mom.
You could go, or a dad.
Go get the food.
Bring it back.
Like, you don't need to sit her there weirdly facing out and not talking to anybody.
It was just an odd, and that was the most blatant thing, but I felt like there was a lot.
And maybe, you know, my wife is watching White Lotus and I watched a couple episodes and that's in my head.
Bro, that shit is fucking my trip.
But I'm like, yo, what is this fucking world where I see nannies loving their kids more
than the mom or somebody sitting like just, it just felt odd to me, but it's fire.
It's comfortable.
It's nice.
The staff is so nice.
You want to be there.
You want to make all this money to live that life.
And then when you live that life and you think about your kids,
am I depriving my kids of any kind of normalcy, any kind of roots, any kind of identity?
It was a fucking like, dude, I want that.
But at what cost?
You think you want it until you have it.
Then you're like, oh, my kids don't fucking know me.
That's the thing.
You think you want it.
And then what's the cost of what this thing that sounds so great?
My bad if I didn't interpret it that way.
But maybe it was in our text exchange because it was so quick
and we were both on vacation.
The way it was worded
was like,
I'm making too much money, man.
My kids don't have a choice.
It sucks for them.
If I make as much money
as I want to make,
I'm probably going to,
why would I not?
It's human nature to be like,
well, let's be comfortable
as comfortable as possible
to live lavish.
You ain't saying
all that shit to me.
I ain't going to go into our text.
Probably not.
But you have to make the conscious.
But I'm in the middle of like
trying to figure out
what the fuck I'm feeling too.
I think you have to make the conscious decision
to deprive yourself of that.
To go,
it's not worth getting all the things
because it's not healthy
for one, my life,
but also my kids' life.
Alex?
We talked about it already.
We did?
I started.
Or unless that part got cut out.
Maybe it did.
Wait, what did he say? Stay home, spend a lot of time with family, New Year's with mom.
I started.
Oh, yeah, he had his little grapes and shit.
He needs your grapes.
Yeah, a little fruit ass.
This is what started the whole hour argument between us.
Yes.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Well, in case we cut that, Alex ate grapes for New Year's with his mother.
Yeah, I spent time with her.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Miles?
You should try it one time.
I went to Florida, had a really good time.
Hung with family, but also sort of like Schultz, we don't really do big things for the holidays.
So it was just very relaxed and comfortable.
But you were still with family.
Yeah, but they wouldn't have cared if I didn't come home.
Thank you, bro.
White people are so evolved, man.
We're so evolved.
Family's a construct, dude.
These minorities get so excited
about a holiday.
Isn't it crazy?
They go crazy for a holiday.
We didn't exchange gifts this year
for the first time ever.
Wow.
Damn.
That's crazy.
It was sort of interesting.
Who made that decision? It was sort of interesting. We just drank coffee.
Who made that decision?
Me, sort of.
Oh, so your parents
wanted to get you something
and you were like, no.
No, they were just like,
we don't know
we would get you this year.
And I was like,
I don't know what to get you guys.
And they were like,
well, let's not do it.
We don't really have to.
There's no reason.
We all have what we need.
And we just sat and drank coffee
and talked for four hours
on a Christmas morning
by the pool.
It was way better.
That's actually so sweet.
And that's the real gift, right?
That's so sweet.
Time with family.
Time with family, bro.
Okay, where's Dove?
Because I'm sure something happened to him on this vacation.
Wasn't he with you?
Mark almost died.
He was, but I forgot most of the things that happened.
I'm sure he wasn't with you the whole time.
I mean, it was a lot.
Dove, Dove, what happened on the vacation?
Shell said you had a lot of toosie.
Were you risen?
Were you rizzed up or what?
No, just all the molly.
All of it.
All of it?
But did we fight about anything before that?
Did anything happen before that?
We usually get in a good fight every trip.
Yeah, it was really good.
I'm trying to think.
Was there anything?
No, because you were fucking sick and annoying.
I know.
It was bad.
It was really fucking bad.
No, we had a great time.
You wakeboarded.
It's on the islands.
Oh, yeah, that was pretty.
Why are you talking like that?
My voice fucked up?
Oh, no.
It just looked like you had something in your mouth.
Oh, sorry about that.
I'm back.
What, you got Molly mouth? Your jaw? Yeah, no. It just looked like you had something in your mouth. Oh, sorry about that. I'm back. Wait, you got Molly mouth?
Your jaw?
Yeah, his jaw is still going crazy.
I came back 10.30 a.m. the next day when he was coming back trying to put a piece of bread from a bakery in his mouth.
And I was like, can you bite of that?
Oh, yeah.
Dove got back the next day with, he was wearing this black button-down shirt the night before.
I know that shirt.
Nice shirt.
He looked phenomenal in it.
He had it buttoned down to here.
He had a necklace with an iguana on it.
He was just going.
Also, the theme of the party was savage, right?
And Dove is like,
you should wear one of those Native American headdresses. And I was like, yeah, maybe not for the savage-themed party, Dove.
Maybe that's not a great idea.
No nuance.
So we go, so Dov wears the iguana.
He's got this black bun-down shirt, the black pants.
He looked phenomenal.
He looked great.
He's tan.
Incredible.
The next day he comes back.
I see him in the morning.
It's 10.30.
He finally gets back.
It's 10.30.
He finally gets back, and he's got the, like, fuzz from the inside of the shirt lining under each of his titties, right?
That's happened before.
I've been there.
Your belly button is full?
He's got black lint, like two smiles under each one of his titties that has just sweated off the shirt
and then like
coagulated
under his tits
and then just been
locked there
under his tits.
you gotta like
peel them off.
Dude,
I don't notice it
until I start arguing with him.
I was like,
do you do a lot of drugs?
And he just goes,
he goes,
I'm not talking about this
right now.
And he lifted his arms
and there's these
two black girls
under his tits. That was titty smeg mode. Oh my God. Yeah. And he lifted his arms and there's these two black girls.
That was titty smegma.
Titty smegma.
That's funny.
But yeah, we got to master the adult New Year's retreat, man.
How do we master it, Duff?
Do New Year's on Molly.
And trust me.
I wish I was at the party.
The party looked really good. Yeah? It looked really fucking good. Blondish? You got it, bad guy. Molly. And trust me. I wish I was at the party. The party looked really good.
Yeah?
Yeah.
It looked really fucking good.
Blondish?
You got a bad guy.
No.
10?
10.30.
God damn.
Yeah, that's wild.
One drink, no sex?
One drink, no sex?
Sometimes it's one drink, no sex.
Sweet boy.
Admitted drug use,
but still sweet boy.
Yeah.
I ain't getting no pussy, bro.
Come on.
New year, new me.
What does that mean?
Not dating this year.
You're not dating?
No.
I want to be arranged marriage.
Oh, we can do that.
We got that, bro.
Can we bet online for this one? Yeah.
We need to do it.
Give him two weeks.
Okay.
Any other stories from New Year's?
I'm trying to think.
Any other stories from your vacations?
Anything else?
Anything else happen?
Anything funny happen in Mexico?
Nah, bro.
Great time.
Relaxed.
Had fun.
You guys?
Did you have altercations?
No.
Oh, okay.
Weirdly fight free.
Really?
Usually vacation is good
For one fight
Nothing silly
Did you guys do adventure stuff?
That was the trick I realized
If you don't want to fight
Do adventure stuff
And everyone's too tired to fight
It's like you're a dog
You just kind of like
Walk each other
And then everyone's too tired
And then there's just
Nothing to argue about
Just get out of your system
You're trying to call
Women bitches today
You can't do that
It's a little dangerous
I didn't say bitches
I said animals You said actual dogs. It's a little dangerous. I didn't say bitches. I said animals.
You said actual dogs.
Yeah, that's way better than a bitch.
I'm not an animal like you guys.
It's a dangerous game that you're playing.
But no, you just go.
You go ski, go for a run.
Just walk your girl around.
But I'm also walking me.
Oh, dude.
We're both dogs.
I have a story.
Columbia taught me that it's possible to say things that are incredibly racist without it being racist.
Continue.
They're these guys that rap on the street, okay?
They come up to you and they just start rapping and they hope that they tip you.
They have like a little boom box that they're carrying with you and they're rapping in Spanish.
But like they'll also just like when they see you, they say stuff.
And they have a few generic things for like whatever race you are.
But like when they just say it to like a black person, it's kind of wild.
Yeah, we saw this with Al.
It's like Morocco.
So, Jamil's with us.
So, it's like Morocco.
But they got speakers and shit.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's amplification, bro.
So, we're just walking down the street after our last meal.
And they call to Jameel
they go to Jameel
and they just start going
this is what they're saying
that we all think
they just go
they got in front of them
the music starts pumping
boom
boom
whatever like that
and then the guys
just start to go
black boy
black boy
what you gonna do
what you gonna do
when they come for you black boy black boy what you gonna, what you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you?
Black boy, black boy, what you gonna do?
What you gonna do when they come for you?
Right?
And then they just turn to Nick and he's got glasses on.
Harry Potter.
Black boy, black boy, what you gonna do?
What you gonna do when they come for you?
Turn to Dove.
Shah Rukh Khan.
Black boy, black boy.
Dude, it was fucking, they started doing this Bob Marley shit
because, you know, Jameel has the dreads or whatever like that.
And it's, you're just being racist to somebody.
But you know that they don't even know better.
Yeah.
So it was kind of just like silly and funny.
And Jameel's coming down on Marley.
He doesn't even have the energy to engage.
So he's just kind of like locked into this performance.
We're like looking for money to pay them to stop.
Oh, my God, dude.
But the black boy, black boy.
That's a banger, dude.
Yeah, honestly.
Harry Potter.
Did they get you?
No, they didn't get me.
Damn.
I don't have a look, I guess.
But like, yeah, if you're a white guy with glasses, Harry Potter.
If you're Indian, I guess I thought that he was Indian.
Yeah, dude.
Shadow Khan is huge.
He's the Bollywood guy, right?
He's the guy.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd be thrilled.
Yeah.
Dude, it was fucking funny.
It's fun.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I think we're done.
Yeah.
I think we're done.
But what are you thinking about?
My last observation on, and I think that this is just a function of like everybody going to Cartagena for New Year's.
So there's just so many.
And I think that this is just a function of like everybody going to Cartagena for New Year's. So there's just so many.
It's like there's a few moments or a few days for people to get as much money as they possibly can on the street by like selling you goods and like following you around.
And it like puts you in like these weird like moral situations where you have like a child will come up to you and like go like this.
Like I'm sure you experienced that in India.
And it's like fucking heartbreaking to like ignore them.
Yeah.
I got hust them. Yeah.
I got hustled.
Yeah,
because you're a fucking good person.
You didn't get hustled.
You did the right thing.
So this girl's like,
you know,
they asked for money but you don't know
if it's going back to them
or whatever.
So I'm like,
yo,
I'll go to the store.
I'll buy you what you want
but take me to the,
whatever.
So she goes to the store.
She buys like cooking oil
and it's like,
I don't know,
150 rupees or whatever.
I buy it
and I'm like so like heartbroken.
Like,
dude,
all this girl wants is cooking oil so her family can cook and eat and I'm telling a guy from India, he's like, I don't know, 150 rupees or whatever. I buy it and I'm like so heartbroken. Like, dude, all this girl wants is cooking oil so her family can cook and
eat. And I'm telling a guy from Indy, he's like,
no, no, no, no, no. She knows it's the most expensive
thing in the store. As soon as you left, she went
back, got a refund, got the cash, you idiot.
And I was like, oh, Jesus.
I'm in fucking tears about this story.
Cooking oil is a good one, though.
Dude, it's brilliant.
Because you hear cooking oil, you're like, yeah, what are you going to do
with cooking oil?
Yeah, how could you possibly?
Yeah.
It's more sad than food.
Yeah, yeah, dude.
It's for the family.
Yeah.
Oh, God, I was in tears.
Legitimately, I was about to cry.
But then somebody's like,
no, you're a retard, man.
Yeah.
So this is the tricky thing, right?
Like, let's say you're making a decision.
How do we make this place
hospitable for tourists?
This is a fucked up game, which in the long run helps all the citizens,
but in the short term can potentially hurt some of these people.
Every one of them in the long run will be better off.
If you can really build the tourist industry, they'll all eventually have jobs
or have jobs that are based on jobs in the tourist industry.
It doesn't matter what it is.
Even if it's like cleaning up the streets, well, there's more garbage because there's more people coming, blah, blah, blah.
So it's one of those things like when you're walking down the street, I'm sure it's more around this time of year,
but like every second somebody is asking for something, trying to sell you something.
Like did they?
Yeah.
I mean it was – I've been in places where you feel – like in Morocco, I thought there was a good balance
where it's like they asked you when you're're souk, but they're not following you.
You don't have to say no six times.
You almost have to be stern.
They'll just fucking follow you.
And even if you're stern, they'll still keep asking.
And they'll still keep going. If you're in charge or in government, whatever, you have to find a way to explain to these people or you do it with the police where it's like the more we harass tourists, the less they're going to recommend this as a place to go to.
Because there's only so many times a child can walk up to you and say they're hungry before you're fucking – you're like, I can't put myself in that situation.
Like, that hurts me.
Yeah. So you almost need the government to be like, guys, by doing this, less people are going to come here, which means less opportunities for you to make money off them.
Like, if you're just sitting down having a meal outside and every two seconds there's a new person coming to fucking sell you something, I'm never going to that restaurant again.
communicate it to the most desperate people in society that they have to stop doing the thing
that is keeping them alive
in order to, in the long run,
make more money and benefit everybody in the city.
Yeah.
That's fucking hard.
I don't want to be the person to tell somebody that.
No.
Yeah, I don't think you could.
Yeah, I don't think you can.
It's one of the reasons,
because they're also like,
my survival depends on this,
so fuck you.
Fuck you.
It's one of those things where you're just like, politicians in America,
we give politicians in America so much shit, and we should because it's fucking easy.
Your job is easy here, dude.
It is fucking easy.
Politicians in a third world country, you've got to worry about being nice enough
so America don't fucking prop up another person,
explaining shit to the police in a way where they don't fucking prop up another person explaining shit to the police
in a way where they don't revolt.
And also, the police are now telling the poorest people in society that they can't do things
that are going to feed themselves.
So now that's going to weigh emotionally on those.
Like, I don't wish that job on anybody.
Third world politician?
Fuck me, bro.
Nah.
But at the same time, you also gotta not be corrupted.
And that's the other
thing. It's like, how can you not be corrupted when
literally the basis of the
job is corruption? You're gonna have
these countries that are paying you money for
special interests. What are you gonna do? Take that money
and then it just goes, well, this goes into the government bin.
Then the people in government are like, well, how did
that money get there?
Or you don't take the bribe and just get killed.
Then you get fucking killed. It's like the
job already has so much
corruption built in. The idea of you being a little
more corrupt is probably almost,
it's not even seductive. It's like normal.
Yeah.
That's what you do.
How do you do that? How do you explain to those
people? Because that to me would be a
hard thing to recommend.
And I loved my time in Cartagena,
but it would be hard based on that to go,
we need to go back there and experience that.
Whereas Morocco,
I would tell people to go to Morocco all the time.
You're going to be asked for shit,
but not fucking chased.
It's a part of the experiments
you just have to compartmentalize, sadly.
You got to subsidize that or something.
You got to pay for these people.
You just have to mentally compartmentalize.
Dude, I saw a kid, another kid in Mumbai that was just like on the street, just so many flies around him.
And like we just went and gave, it was me and my homie Arjun Gupta shouts.
But like he gave him water and like talked to him.
And like I was so shook up.
I was like, fuck.
And then, you know, whatever.
We fed him.
We got him some food somewhere.
But it's like it took something that extreme.
I legitimately thought this kid might be dead and everybody's just walking by him.
So that you kind of got to compartmentalize
and be like,
I'll help where I can.
Yeah, you got to compartmentalize
because I think they also see you as a mark
because like,
100%.
So it's like,
now everybody's coming to you.
The only thing,
because I didn't feel it that much.
Like, yeah,
we were getting people come up to me,
but if you just like kind of ignore it.
But the only thing more offensive,
like,
like the more offensive,
more offensive than like being seen as a mark
is being seen as one of them.
Right?
They thought you were poor like them.
They thought you fit in.
They're like, did you run out of maracas?
You need some more?
We even get approached.
What you gonna do?
What you gonna do when they come for you?
But how do you, yeah, you got to compartmentalize it,
but how do you as a government, I guess you're right,
you got to subsidize the poorest groups of people
so that they're not out in the street begging like that,
and then you have to police them when they do.
Yeah.
Like, you'll see this in Europe where, like, women, like, will have their—
Gypsies.
Yeah.
And they'll, like, paint or, like, put, like, sores on their kids.
Oh, yeah.
Or they'll, like, give them Benadryl and it's, like, make them sleep.
So they're all tired, yeah.
And then, like, they're just holding their kid and their kid looks like it's, like, festering
with wounds.
And then you're, like, just pouring money on, and then they jump in a Mercedes and go down.
Yeah.
And it's like, okay.
So it's like you have people like that that are preying on the goodwill of other people
and making their situation seem more dire to get more money.
So you have to somehow penalize that while at the same time subsidizing the people that actually need the help.
Yeah.
And it's like, how do you know someone's kid isn't hungry?
I'm going to give you a ticket for pretending your kid was hungry.
The kid can't even speak.
Yeah.
Like, I guess he's saying if you subsidize for the poorest people, then anybody begging is like, no, we subsidize.
Yeah, there's a food bank right here.
How do you get the money to subsidize to the fucking geopolitics?
You got to borrow from the IMF and then they take all your fucking coconuts and your porphyry.
Yeah, exactly.
nuts in your forefront.
But it is a thing that like if you're trying to develop
an area of your country into a tourist
industry, it has to be
amenable
to tourists.
It has to be warm, welcoming
and they cannot experience
that level of discomfort. The problem is
once people know there's tourists there, they come
in with trinkets.
And the trinkets is cool. And the trinkets is cool.
Sell some trinkets.
He hates saying no, I think.
That shit bothered me in Venice, too.
Like, I'm in Venice, and I'm looking at this, like, beautiful ancient sea,
and then I'm seeing all these fucking little, like, kiosks and shit.
But I'm like, that's how it always was, though.
You go to Venice fucking 400 years ago, there's guys shucking oysters.
Yeah, but the oysters are from Venice.
Like, at least what I loved about Morocco
is those things
that they were selling
in the souk,
maybe they were made
in some fucking place in China
and then brought over.
Maybe they weren't.
They look like
they were made there.
At least make it look
like it's from there.
The pink I love Venice shirt
is made in China.
I see.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm just saying it takes away.
The little thing
where you pull the toy
and it flies in the air.
What are they saying? Venetian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck is going on? When a thousand'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying it takes away— The little thing where you pull the toy and it flies in the air. You know what they say in Venetian?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What the fuck is going on?
When a thousand years ago—
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like, outside of my inconvenience, I'm thinking about how it affects people who want to go there,
which ultimately affect the people who live there.
And that's what benefits them the most.
Right.
I feel like there's iterations of that everywhere.
Because in Morocco, you hated how aggressive they were with the monkeys and shit.
Yeah, that was too much.
But you didn't get hassled for donations on the street as much.
But it was like, I'd take the beggars in Colombia over the aggressiveness of the motherfuckers in Morocco.
I felt like that was uncomfortable.
But we were seeking out the monkeys.
That's the only difference.
When we were walking by, everybody's just like,
oh, come in, come in, come in.
You can't even look.
You got to be like, you got to put our fucking visors on.
Fair enough.
Yeah, I guess everybody experiences their own.
But it's just one of those things that like,
you think about with a developing country.
I was thinking about, you know, just with Costa Rica,
I'm like, wow, how could you help foster an environment
that would like help these local people not only make money so they could survive, but also thrive off the growth of the city?
It's one of those things like in Costa Rica, there's unwritten rules in terms of businesses that you can't enter.
There's a lot of foreign investment coming in, there's like three things you just can't touch.
You can't touch surf lessons if you're not a local.
That's theirs.
Can't touch ATV rentals. Everybody gets around their ATVs.
And then you can't sell drugs.
And there's no rule book that says it anywhere.
The people have a strong enough culture
they sell police.
And you have to figure out a way that tourism actually goes to the people that live there
and not to just like these foreign companies
that invest in a hotel and then it goes back to fucking New York.
Yeah.
Like I want – if you have these big hotels that are coming in, that's awesome.
Is there a way to like partner with locals there?
And unfortunately like the locals that you would want to partner up are very few.
They're probably like the doctors or the dentists or the people that are like the most well-off and intellectuals of that area that you could, you know, do business with.
But like, how can you find ways where the locals are profiting off of the growth of their town or city?
Yeah.
They should directly.
Cuba was like that.
Cuba, you can't, you can't have an Airbnb if you don't, if you're not from Cuba.
Yeah.
Like, and it was a thriving business because like the hotels aren't that great there.
So everybody rents Airbnb.
A hundred percent.
But it was like, so then they find ways of, oh, let me pay this person.
It's like, so the person is making money, but it's still the money ends up going back to some.
At least they're getting something.
Like, yeah, I just.
Like even when you have a rule like that, it's still people find ways to go around it.
Because it's, it's so easy once you have a lot of money
to like you can buy up all this land
for pennies on the dollar
and you can build it out
it's great it really does help the community
and those people get jobs
but how do you find a way where
they're not then displaced
where they're continually profiting
off of that investment in that region
because you're not investment in that region.
Because you're not going to that region unless they already built out,
even if it's the shittiest roads.
Yeah.
You're going there because they're there.
Yeah.
You could go to the middle of the fucking jungle.
You're not going to the middle jungle for a reason.
Yeah.
Because even that tiny little infrastructure that exists,
that's what you're leeching on.
Yeah.
Maybe leeching is the wrong word, but they should be able to eat off of that. But then it gets tricky when people buy up the land personally,
and then you can't even live in the place you're trying to work at.
So you've got to ship in workers from like the other town and put them in
fucking tenements just to like make the place work.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
It's tricky.
But those people's lives are so much better.
Yeah.
Like the people who live in those towns are making so much more money.
They're able to send their kids to fucking better schools.
Like all these things also improve.
And a percentage of them are changed forever.
They went from like poverty to actual like,
let's say middle class or something up in the middle class.
So part of the town is like, this is great.
Don't stop this investment.
Keep it fucking going.
While the other part of town is being moved out.
They're like, yo, what the fuck are you doing?
So it creates the infighting.
It's hard. It're like, yo, what the fuck are you doing? So it creates the infighting. It's hard.
It's tricky, man.
It's better if you just fucking move them out.
Go to Wyoming.
Go to Wyoming.
That's honestly a lot of white people in Wyoming.
You think?
Yeah, they already moved everyone out already,
so it's just kind of very white cowboy stuff.
Do that next time.
Yeah.
No, Idaho, I think that'd be really cool.
You know, that nature stuff, man. Also everything FDA. Yeah. No, Idaho, I think that'd be really cool. You know,
that nature stuff, man.
Also everything FDA.
Nature's back, dude.
Dude, nature
is back.
Yeah.
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