Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts: Chappelle's Boycott Makes Dollars Not Sense

Episode Date: December 12, 2020

This week Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia, and Mark discuss the NYC lockdown and the impact on businesses, Dave Chappelle calls for 'Chappelle's Show' boycott, Schulz Netflix special, and much more. INDULG...E! Want an extra episode a week? Join the Flagrant Army www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What up, people? Shulte here, and you guys are about to listen to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode. If you want to sign up to our Patreon, support the flagrancy, support what we are doing, completely uncensored, flagrant content, you go to patreon.com slash flagrant2. With no more interruptions, here is the exclusive clip. Let's talk about Dave crying. Yeah, man. It was...
Starting point is 00:00:28 We're going to see Dave this week when we go to Austin. So I'm going to go do Rogan in Austin and him and Dave have a show this week at Austin. They're doing these outdoor shows where they COVID test everybody and shit like that. So I don't know. Maybe we'll get to talk to him there
Starting point is 00:00:43 and I'll just ask him about it. Yeah. I'm curious to know your thoughts. I think uh i don't know maybe we'll get to talk from there and i'll just ask him about it yeah but it was just like you know your thoughts i don't think i think uh i don't know like i was just kind of like turned off by when i was watching it and i'm like why am i turned off watching you do this we're talking about unforgiven which is the latest thing he put off and um i think it was just like it was it was scotty pippen behavior for me yeah you know what i mean like complain about the contract that you negotiate negotiated you signed it's very scotty pippen like that's not goat behavior like michael jordan didn't do that michael jordan i think at point of his career was making a
Starting point is 00:01:14 million dollars more than scotty right and he cashed in later in his career based on all the success that he built within those contracts that he signed and then lived up to and like i don't know i just i was kind of just turned off i think dave is the greatest i think i think patrice is the greatest yeah that's my goal but dave is unbelievable man unreal yeah the greatest i think he's the greatest public speaker that i've ever seen and yeah i yeah we might have discussed this privately but like the way he tells the story is fucking amazing the fucking three card monte story was so good so powerful as a storyteller but you negotiated a shitty contract, and then you kind of misrepresented the circumstances
Starting point is 00:01:48 under which you signed the contract. I signed that contract the way a 27-year-old with a kid. You weren't a 27-year-old with a kid. You were a 27-year-old who had been in A-list movies, who had an HBO special. This contract was that much more complicated than You've Got Mail. Did he have a good agent at the time? I mean, he
Starting point is 00:02:04 was in You've Got Mail with fucking Tom hanks and meg ryan you're not getting that with some bum ass middle tier boutique agency he's with the big dogs they're working this out and it's not like you didn't you might say i signed a bad deal because they were all in on it but don't put it on i was just a 27 year old wet behind the ears you were successful for a decade. And we have not been kind to other people who signed bad contracts and complained about them. For me, I got it. Personally, I had to keep that same energy. Don't do that. That is the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I think that we naturally kind of reject fraudulence. So it's like we're watching them and we're like, I see you want to get your money for these seasons for that contract that you signed where you should love yep but the way you're going about it is just kind of corny yeah but all right do you you're trying to like get the people to bully the different the network so that you can get a piece of that money you want to get your money get your money that's fine but i'm not gonna play along with the masquerade i see you yeah like it's a brilliant negotiation if If I was, I don't have a relationship with Spell like that,
Starting point is 00:03:08 but if I had known him from back in the day, like if I'm Don L or something like that and he came off stage, you'd just be like, hmm. Oh, is that how it went down?
Starting point is 00:03:16 I'll hit him with one of these. That was Oscar worthy, my guy. That's the thing. Oscar worthy. I like the move. You know what I mean? It's a great negotiation move. You do a deal you don't like
Starting point is 00:03:24 and then you get the leverage later on and you go, yeah, let me patch up those old mistakes I made. Boom. Let me fix the thing I did in the move. You know what I mean? It's a great negotiation move. You do a deal you don't like, and then you get the leverage later on, and you go, yeah, let me patch up those old mistakes I made. Boom. Let me fix the thing I did in the past. It's the only way he could get it back is to get the people to get upset and then get to it. And then be like, I don't want the PR hit. The style of it is annoying, whining about it, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I also think the people that cry for millionaires are idiots. You know what I mean? The people in the comments being like, if this is a win for Dave, this is a win for us. You know what I mean? Like the people in the comments being like, if this is a win for Dave, this is a win for us. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Like the people like on Dave's side for that,
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm like, all right, whatever. I'll speak from it. Can I speak from it from the producer side to the talent that you guys are? Speak from it from the Jew side.
Starting point is 00:03:58 From the Jewish side. You tricked them into signing the contract. Let me tell you about it. The deal that he signed, I believe, because he had good agents, was. The deal that he signed, I believe, because he had good agents, was a standard deal
Starting point is 00:04:07 that they give to different talents. Nobody, none of those buyers knew it would become the Chappelle show. So you can't think, the talent wants to think
Starting point is 00:04:14 that they made that decision in a vacuum just for Chappelle. But what they're doing as a network is making decisions for their entire slate of projects
Starting point is 00:04:21 for maybe 10 different comedy shows. And the way that they make money is that they lose because they took a risk on six of those shows. And then the Chappelle show is supposed to make up for those six losses. And then they have a couple wins
Starting point is 00:04:36 somewhere in the middle. So that's just- And you also don't have the benefit of hindsight to know it's a win or a loss. Yeah, that's another thing. It's like up to that point, he had not had anything that was wildly successful on a financial front.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Like maybe the, not how high, what is it called? Half-baked. Half-baked. I think that was successful amongst like us and like college kids thought it was really funny. But in terms of making money, it wasn't a financial success yet. Maybe it did later in DVDs or something. Even if it was successful, which I would think it was. No, initially it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Okay. But he hated it regardless regardless but like i guess the point is you're there's no standard for how you're gonna do like now for example when dave chappelle does a deal with netflix he can say yo i want 100 million and then netflix goes well shit you're dave chappelle like whenever you put anything out the entire world watches it so you're worth 100 million proof of concept exactly but so i again i think you made a good point. I like, yo, get your money. Fix the bad deal. But don't.
Starting point is 00:05:29 We see you. Yeah, like, you're not going to act like I don't see what the fuck is going on over here. Like, you've been in the business your whole life. You know how the business works. You know what I mean? You're like, the business broke me. What was he even saying? I took exception to this when he was like, I, Muslim, I didn't drink or smoke until you guys
Starting point is 00:05:46 got me to drink or smoke. Do not put your failure of your God on someone else. To me, it's like, bro, Mark, there's nothing I could do that would make you
Starting point is 00:05:55 do anything that's outside of your faith. It's just not gonna happen. And if I did, you wouldn't put it on me. And oh, the stress of a show. No.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You guys will never get me to drink. You're just not gonna. It's not gonna happen. That's me and God. And if it did no you guys will never get me to drink you're just not gonna it's not gonna happen right that's me and god and if it does i'm not gonna be like you guys i feel god because of you don't do that shit and he got muslims in his corner they should keep it a buck with him be like don't don't bullshit everybody in the room including yourself that's you we gotta get our cops drunk chappelle got some magic now Nah, we all got to get. We had them smoke. Yeah, we're going to trick you into drinking, bro. I'm more into drinking than smoking.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And eating a burger, bro. I'm going to get you to eat a burger. I used to eat beef, but once I stopped, I stopped. Wow. Get your money, Dave. All right, guys, we're going to take a break for a second so you could satisfy the woman of your dreams. Simple as that.
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Starting point is 00:07:33 chew.com make sure you use that promo code flagrant now let's get back to the show what's up al no but dave dave has a magical power of some sort because I was probably doing shit while just watching it in the background and I fell for all that shit. I fell for all that shit. I'm hearing you guys now and I'm just like, oh yeah, it makes so much sense. But then when I was watching him, I'm like, damn, they really fucking him over on his
Starting point is 00:07:58 scene. Like this hard, this art that he created and he can't even get it back and shit. Yo, and then I fucking, I think I posted to my story like boycott Dave Chappelle show or some shit like that fucking and thanks for calling me stupid my favorite part is like uh he's he's there complaining about how like commie central like took everything from him and it's like that show gave you everything like low-key and again go get your money do whatever you want right but like everything that he got was after that show popped off that he earned himself by making that show
Starting point is 00:08:30 absolutely amazing being talented as fuck but i'm sure there's like a little part of you that's probably like hey man thanks for that opportunity that's pretty cool like to your point you know what i mean i'm not looking back at mtv going and it's very different of course you know dave went to superstardom after Comedy Central. I did okay with MTV, but I'm still grateful for the opportunity. I don't know. To your point, I was a huge Dave Chappelle fan from Killing Them Softly. Went to see him in Dallas at the Majestic Theater.
Starting point is 00:08:59 The second week Chappelle's show was on the air. He just happened to be in Dallas months in advance, bought tickets. Theater is half empty at least. Two years later, you could scalp that same ticket for thousands of dollars. Get your money, Dave. And it's from a Comedy Central contract that did fuck him. But to your point, that led to. Did it fuck him if he ends up becoming the most successful comedian in the world and the greatest comedian in history to most people?
Starting point is 00:09:22 Did it really fuck you? Yeah, at this point, I could argue with you. We're splitting hairs. Did it fuck you? We're splitting hairs. It I could argue with you, but did it fuck you? Did it happen though? Fuck me then! You know what I'm saying? That kind of fucking seems good! All those Motown artists that sign these terrible
Starting point is 00:09:34 deals, become famous, and lose all their money. They got famous, and they got some money, but they kind of got fucked at the same time. I just think artists should have the ability to buy back their art. Say what? I just think somebody who creates something should have the ability to own it. I think that in a vacuum, that makes absolute sense. And as creatives, I'm going to side with you 100%.
Starting point is 00:09:54 If I'm not the creative, if I'm the bank, you know what I mean? And the bank is like, hold up. So I'm going to take all the risk here. And then when the shit becomes profitable profitable I got to give you the opportunity to buy it back but charge him for it be like okay this is what I think I would have made if I kept it
Starting point is 00:10:13 are you willing to pay that that's what I'm saying I guarantee you their valuation will be super high if if you're Chappelle you're probably going to be like I feel like it's worth this much i'll pay you this much and they're gonna be he's gonna be like oh they're trying to charge me you know nine figures it's extortion but he's genius though because what he's doing is
Starting point is 00:10:32 maybe that's his plan and what he's doing is driving down the price for the show because nobody streams it right because if he's like yo nobody watched my shit and then he goes yo can i buy back the rights everybody commie central's got to be like well shit we can't sell it to nobody might as well sell to him if he's the only one available and then he can, yo, can I buy back the rights? Comedy Central's got to be like, well, shit, we can't sell it to nobody. Might as well sell it to him if he's the only one available and then he can go flip it on the backside. So get your money, Dave. Get your money. Just don't expect us to believe that shit.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's true. Yeah. That's all it is. For me, I hold him maybe up to too high esteem. Maybe that's the thing. You know what I mean? So when I see the Scottie Pippen behavior, I'm just like, oh, we're not crying, are we, man?
Starting point is 00:11:07 We're not going to cry. Well, this is the first time comics outside of us I've ever gotten like a critical text about Dave. I had a group thread of comics being like, yo, I'm tired of this crying shit. They be saying that in a text. And then they coming on the pod like, oh, my gosh. Hashtag boycott Chappelle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Posting it all over the shit.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Oh, I don't disagree with you. It's so bad when you see all these like starting sorry to cut, but like all like the rappers, they got labels and shit. Like boycott Chappelle's show to say, you got artists that need some masters bought too? You know what I mean? You got some deal sign that you might want to, you know, look back on? Yup.
Starting point is 00:11:35 You're not wrong, but you brought up a good point to me off pod, which was like, this is actually the best way, Chappelle's show, for young kids to find out about Chappelle. Yeah. Like he was, he put together one of the greatest shows greatest sketch show in history great sketch on history one of the greatest comedy shows of all time probably ranked like the top 100 is probably there two seasons of brilliance if you're a young kid that's too young to remember 2001 which is a lot of kids you're gonna look at this and be like oh this is this is why dave is dave that's i remember what you said
Starting point is 00:12:03 to me and i was like that's a good fucking point. You could see, he could expose an entire generation to kids of like, yo, this is why motherfuckers listen to me do a special at the comedy store and tell a 30-minute story about Iceberg Slim. This is why. And to be honest, that was even more poetic than the fucking, the Bird Revelation one or whatever,
Starting point is 00:12:21 the comedy store Iceberg Slim, even better than the Three Card Monty story. He'll talk about the industry fucking you in the most poetic ways. Yeah. It's unbelievable. You're so romanticized by it, and that's how he wins you over.
Starting point is 00:12:32 How much did he get for the next Netflix deal? I don't know, something crazy, like 50? I think he got his 50 back. I think he's pretty strategic to your point. Fuck me, bro. This industry's horrible. I mean, the 50 million was nice. This industry will beat you down
Starting point is 00:12:45 come on bro and you get to get drunk this ain't not fair at all we not buying it Dave we not buying it but get your money bro yeah we love you but we see you
Starting point is 00:12:55 get your money bro we boycotting too alright guys you just listened to a clip from our weekly Patreon episode if you want to continue to listen to that episode
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