Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts To End of Times Prophecy, J. Cole Moist Apology, & Wrestlemania Madness

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

YERRR the boys sat down to discuss Candace and Ben's renewed beef, the Red Heifer conspiracy, J Cole's 'apology', squatters taking over NYC and much much more. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 00:23 J. Cole has d...isappointed us + does this change anything? 16:00 Andrew’s going to moderate Candace v Ben Shapiro? 19:44 Is Melania Trump trans? Tricking Mark to shower 25:06 “I will bet my career on it” + Andrew would stir the pot 30:10 Does J Cole look funny in the light? 32:31 Judgment Day incoming + Red Heifers protected by the IDF? 46:45 Mutually assured destruction, Dead Sea Scrolls & Red Heifer ashes 52:25 The Eclipse + Andrew’s nose blocked the sun 1:00:40 What’s the next prophecy? Muslim double or nothing + Jesus is the Undertaker 1:03:34 If world doesn’t end, are religions wrong? 1:06:20 Russell Simmons’ daughter dating OLD + “awesome personality” 1:12:54 Wrestlemania = incredible storytelling, Triple H’s impact + Rock embracing heel 1:22:17 Squatters “taking over”, NYC protects tenants Alexx getting burned + HOA standards 1:54:17 Long Island squatter story wasn’t as it seemed + Due Diligence worth 2:00:11 Being skeptical is essential + NYC was INSANE back in the day 2:14:12 Aussie kid directing homeless to empty homes + political ads being subversive 2:19:00 Republicans leaning into pro-life cost them the mid-terms 2:22:48 Political bias changes EVERYTHING

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, Flager family, and welcome to the show. Guys, it's looking like the end of times out there. We've had an earthquake in New York City. We've had a solar eclipse. There is trouble in conservative paradise. There might be a debate between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens. And rap beef is no more. What is happening to this world that we are living in?
Starting point is 00:00:21 It's too soft. Too soft. Shall we start with the rap beef? We can. Okay. So clearly, there's a lovely, delicious rap beef brewing.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Kendrick Lamar sends some shots out. A decade, right? Yeah, probably a decade in the making. End times prophecy of rap beefs. Yeah, this is it, dude.
Starting point is 00:00:40 End times prophecy of rap beefs. We get to finally see who is number one. Kendrick throws some shots out. It looks like he's just throwing some jabs, trying to elicit a reaction. J. Cole gives him the reaction,
Starting point is 00:00:51 and then what happens? Then he apologized, bro. Interesting. Give us the context of this apology. Well, first I got to start, I've never been more wrong. Yeah. Alvin did big things at Dreamville,
Starting point is 00:01:03 and big things happen. Drake's coming out of Dreamville. It's his WrestleMania. Thank you for honoring that. It was Black People's WrestleMania. They were so excited. Technically, it was supposed to happen. Something changed.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Because I did get a word that he was supposed to go to Dreamville. And probably Drake, I mean, Cole releasing this little diss track, maybe might have changed his plans on that. I't know oh it was a last minute change that drake he meaning drake so drake was gonna go to dreamville and then he's like no i'm not yeah he predicted drake was gonna go to dreamville drop a diss and now dreamville for everybody who's watching is unaware is a uh concert that j cole throws in his hometown yeah okay so north he's from north carolina yes yeah greensboro or something like that yeah is that it we should that J. Cole throws in his hometown? Yeah. Okay, so he's from North Carolina? Yes. Greensboro or something like that?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Yeah. Is that it? We should know. So he throws a huge concert. I think there's like 50,000 people there or something crazy. Yeah. And then he goes on stage, and the video we see is he's apologizing for the... I've never been so disappointed.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Okay, talk through it. So it's like hip-hop has always been a competitive thing. Like, it's always, I'm the best, I'm the top dog. Okay, talk through it. So it's like, hip-hop has always been a competitive thing. Like, it's always, I'm the best, I'm the top dog. Yeah, yeah. And finally, we were getting some
Starting point is 00:02:10 of that energy again in hip-hop. Like, we haven't had it for a really long time. And for a decade, there had been this debate who's number one between these three.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Kendrick, Drake, Cole. Now, there was somebody who said this, and I don't want to, I wish I remembered exactly who, but it was, maybe it was academics,
Starting point is 00:02:23 but it was like, you can't pull out of the safest rap beef ever. None of them are going to kill one another. It's one thing when people start getting shot, your security's getting murdered. You're like, okay, let's calm this thing down. This was only going to be bars. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Alex, continue. So Cold drops a surprise album on Friday, like a couple of days before dreamville concert and one of the songs on there it's um seven minute drill yeah where he's taking shots at kendrick he was responding to that's it by kendrick's um diss track towards him it was mediocre at best yeah he didn't seem like he wanted to beef like it was just like very lackluster and then two days later he apologized for making this diss track and like hey i regret doing this it wasn't it didn't feel good he's losing sleep over it how do you lose sleep over making a
Starting point is 00:03:18 diss track okay so how do you lose sleep over making so i've thought about okay i've thought about this i've thought about this so this i'm about this. So this, I'm going to give, um. This is. I'm going to give, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. I'm going to give, I don't even want to call it pushback. I'm going to give another perspective on this, right? J. Cole has existed around the top three rappers for what, the last eight years? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Maybe 10 years, I don't know. I'm not exactly but like has been respected by everybody loved by everybody making tons of money never really beefing with anybody seriously he's lived like a pretty spiritually high journey in the rap game which is hard think about what drake gotta go through on a daily basis yeah everybody come at his fucking head every single person the young bucks are coming at him the old dudes are coming at him their diss tracks come from every different direction you gotta put a fire out here you gotta put a fire out here you
Starting point is 00:04:12 gotta put up that's a stressful fucking life jay cole gets to be a hippie you know smoke weed if i don't even know if he smokes weed go help out the community wear whatever the fuck he wants like he gets to really exist he's snapple remember snapple did that thing like we're number three when you're number three you could mess around with flavors you could make a banana flavored or raspberry flavored remember he's like coca-cola and pepsi they can't do anything because they're number one and two but number three that's when you get to experiment and have fun. And he has been able to experiment and have fun. And he is unanimously respected, maybe not considered the number one, but to his fans, he's the number one, which is what's really important. Who gives a fuck what the people who aren't your fans think? If your fans think you're number one, you're number one.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But now he's friends with everybody. Now he engages in this beef. He loses the peace. He loses the sanctity. Maybe he loses what he really wants. Maybe he doesn't care about being unanimous number one in the way Drake does. That's probably Drake's dream is I need to
Starting point is 00:05:14 be the greatest rapper ever. Maybe what he likes is his position in the game. He likes being Snapple and the second he starts to feel the pressure of being Coke he was like fuck this. I'm out. I would agree with you if he hasn't for the past three years been saying he's the best he's never won but but like he's been saying it more and more and actually starting to believe it and he's actually been wrapping his
Starting point is 00:05:36 ass up no he's so nice and nobody's like i don't know it's like you can't just keep going for the spot snapple's better than coke like it is no so it's like better than't just keep going for the spot. Snapple's better than Coke. Like it is. No. Better than a Diet Coke? A DC? Okay, okay, here's the thing. Let me get there. Let me get there.
Starting point is 00:05:53 A DC without lemon is nothing. A DC without lemon is sludge. A DC without lemon is poison. If I don't have a lemon that I can put in a DC, it's not even a DC. A DC shouldn't even be sold without lemon. It's a straw, a napkin, and a lemon should come with every single DC. Coke in a glass bottle. You're anywhere outside of America, fired.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Crazy. First of all, now you're taking me internationally. But that's what it's supposed to be. The fact that you need to create a caveat that's international just shows me that you don't believe in Coke in America. That's the real Coke. It's just the sugar. That's it. Which country are you loyal to? Hey, listen here, Ben Shapiro. Which country does your true
Starting point is 00:06:29 loyalty lie? Oh, a Mexican coke is way better than a red wine. At least I'm stepping out of my Overton window. At least I'm stepping out of my Overton window. Where you at? Okay, take that right wing Twitter and have some fun for a week. A warm Snapple is like a quarter water. Like, it's not good at all oh yeah okay now you're bringing temperature into this you brought it you brought lemon if you come into a snapple we're assuming refrigeration on all beverages yes what i'm trying to say is baseline i like how they started as rap people and were like, let me tell you what the best drink is. What's the most refreshing?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Okay, so I guess what I'm trying to say is maybe J. Cole preferred his position of being beloved by everybody, respected by everybody and then not bearing the weight of a beef. The weight of a beef is heavy. I think maybe he wanted, I agree with Al.
Starting point is 00:07:24 He did say he wanted to be number one. Maybe when he got there. Without actually doing it. But I think when he, do you know what I'm saying? Like, in rap, sorry to cut you, but like, you get to say your number. Everybody says their number. Everybody says their number. I got the most bitches.
Starting point is 00:07:33 I make the most money. I got everything. But he was doing it, to Al's point. He was the best. But I think when he started to get there, now everybody's seeing you as number one, and then they start shooting at you at number one, heavy as the head towards the crown, you're like, hey, man, take that. I don't want it you gotta talk shit is that possible you gotta talk shit about someone like it's what do you mean possible but you don't make the diss track then
Starting point is 00:07:52 but like yeah that's what i'm saying like i think in order to be quote unquote be number one he has to talk shit about someone that he respects and admires yeah and that sucks i think he probably went to bed being like why the fuck did i do this yeah why am i like engaging in this like petty nonsense for what so that the casuals who don't think i'm number one can now think i'm number one yeah i mean he says that he goes i want to protect my peace and i was like yeah that's far i don't know his peace wasn't disturbed after first person shooter when he makes a fucking banger where he's saying hey i'm muham Muhammad Ali out of these three guys. But now when he drops a weak diss track, now all of a sudden my piece is the same.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I'm not into this. I'm not into what he did. Muhammad Ali's not the greatest boxer ever. He's like the Snapple of boxers. Yeah, he's the Snapple of boxers. It's the one we all like the most. It's the one we enjoy the most. Floyd Mayweather's the greatest boxer ever.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I don't think he wrote that thinking, I'm not the greatest. I think that was his intention when he wrote it. No, and again, I don't know if that's intention, but even the way I interpret it, he's the most beloved. There's not one person that doesn't love Muhammad Ali, but true boxing enthusiasts will say that he wasn't the greatest boxer ever.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But as a rap fan listening to a rap song, he's saying he's the greatest. Sure, but he doesn't shit on anyone. But that's the one thing. The only thing he did that was kind of, I remember thinking in the moment, I was like, oh, this feels a little. He says the big three, me and Kendrick or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And then when he says the Spider-Man meme is me looking at Drake, I do remember being like, oh, you kind of left Kendrick out of that. But I don't think, I think he was trying to do the J. Cole thing to be fair to him where he's like, hey, we're all great.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I'm the best because we're doing the rap thing. I'm making sure everybody feels good about themselves. And that's just not... Dude, this is... We're just old, I think. We're like...
Starting point is 00:09:32 I'm almost 40. I'm looking at this. I want the rappers to be what I grew up with. I think kids are just not like that as much anymore. They're like terrapies and well-adjusted.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Some kids. Some, some. Not even close. It's just not in rap. It's in streaming. If you want real beef, you've got to go to streaming. That's what a real beef is. On rap, you're not going to find no real beef.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Well, I'm 40 again, so I'm not going to be. Yeah, you fucking loser. Watch some. Come on, brother. Watch some streams. Let's eat some real beef, okay? Come on. Turbo.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Special team. Come on, brother. We need some real beef from you, J. on brother we need some real beef from you j cole you need some real beef no i i it was he's definitely that i respect it i i i here's the thing i understand where he's coming from and i i selfishly you just want carnage right like he wants to see black man fight that's what, right? Like he wants to see black man fight. That's what you want to see. You want to see black man fight spa.
Starting point is 00:10:30 That's true. Black man loves, they love boxing. Yeah. Come on. A nice little slap box. You know, why can't we love each other?
Starting point is 00:10:36 Why can't they just, just love? No, no, no. What if they just punches and shit like that? We don't want to see that shit. Come on. You want to see real, you want to go to Atlanta. We don't want to see that shit.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Come on, man. You want to see real blood. Yeah. You want to see blood shit. No, I think we want to see someone come out of this and be like, oh, that's the guy. Yes. I think that's what we want. We want a champion. What we got out of this is now knowing who's not the guy.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Does that ever happen, though? Cole can never be the guy. Does that ever happen in a rap beat for like, oh, so Nas is the guy? No, but he clearly won the battle. There's no question who won. And Drake and Meek, Drake clearly won the battle. Meek can never be that guy after that. So it's like, it's one of those things where it's just like, hey, this person is better than you when you guys battle each other.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Even Push clearly beat Drake, even if Drake is great. Nobody even remembers. So then it doesn't prove who the guy is people remember that you know who didn't forget hold on make that but like everyone knows
Starting point is 00:11:28 the ether beat like everyone knows like yo Nas body Jay Z but then it's like Jay Z's still the guy yeah but so it doesn't prove anything
Starting point is 00:11:34 here's the gap the gap between Jay Z and Nas way bigger and I don't mean in terms of rap skill but just accolades and sales
Starting point is 00:11:42 and everything and duration way bigger than the gap between Cole, Kendrick, Drake. But the point is, at the time, it wasn't. And then Nas won, and Jay-Z got here. So despite losing, he still got here. So to Mark's point, it doesn't really decide. All it does is decide for that moment.
Starting point is 00:12:01 With Pusha and Drake, it decided for that moment, and then Drake just went here, and now we don't really know what Pusha's doing. So it doesn't really decide anything. It helps us. We enjoy it. We like to chew on it. It's nice and fatty. But the reality is it doesn't really dictate career. I do think at this level, they've been in the game so long, I do think, yeah, I guess, I mean, how old is Jake old?
Starting point is 00:12:22 He's in his mid-30s. He could keep going. He could. But I think when it's this close, we're're talking tiebreakers maybe a beef is like a tiebreaker yeah and i think this is this was the tiebreaker because we don't see we see them here and we've seen them here for 10 years now here's the thing i never and this is with all due respect to jay cole i've never seen him in that i I don't see Kendrick there. It's Drake, and that's it. And there's a big drop-off after Drake. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And J. Cole, I think, is so beloved and respected and thought of as a nice guy, and then every time he does a feature, you're like, is this guy the best rapper on the fucking planet? You're like, this is incredible. He's just so skilled at the thing and so loved that you're like, yeah, I think he's up there. But he's not really.
Starting point is 00:13:05 If you're only going by sales, then I can see why you say that. No, they're not sales. But in terms of musical ability and how they craft albums, they all make amazing albums. No, they're all masterful at their craft. Don't get me wrong. They're all masterful at their craft. I'm talking about cultural impact. Even Kendrick.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Kendrick might come out, drop, and then it's a big explosion for a little bit. It's like a streaming show. It's like a streaming show. It's like he comes out, there's a season of it, everybody's consuming it, and then after that, we take a break from Kendrick. Whereas Drake is just omnipresent. You walk into fucking H&M, it's going to be Drake. You walk into the club, it's going to be Drake.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You're at the fucking airport, it's just everywhere. It's inescapable. This isn't a perfect analogy because the show I'm going to compare the artist to put out more content, but it's like, Drake is Friends, Kendrick is Curb.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Larry David comes out with a season whenever he kind of feels like coming out with a season. Now, he's put out like 12 seasons over 30 years or whatever, but Friends,
Starting point is 00:13:58 bangers consistently, but you kind of know what you're getting and it kind of is what it is. It's good. I love that show. It's great. Curb is its own thing. Comparing the two is tough, but you're getting and it kind of is what it is it's good it's i love that show it's great curb is its own thing comparing the two is tough but you're like those are all-time great shows
Starting point is 00:14:10 so there's maybe like more density to uh yes a kendrick album yes and that's reflective over the fact that like it takes him uh yeah several years to put together while drake it might take him several months to put together he's putting out out, Kendrick's putting out a piece. Right. This is a piece. It's art. It is what it is. However we feel about it, that is, he put everything into this for years, and that's the project.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Drake will give you consistent bangers, and they're not going to hit this level of artistry, but them motherfuckers are going to consistently hit you. You just translated into white, bro. I appreciate that. Thank you. I'll be honest. Do y'all listen to Kendrick
Starting point is 00:14:45 do you put it on I don't put it on I do a little bit but definitely not as much as Drake but I do listen to Kendrick I put on J. Cole features out of all these three
Starting point is 00:14:54 the most like I was listening to London after 7 minute rel I was like that was cool let me listen to London and I was like this shit is so crazy that London song
Starting point is 00:15:00 is so incredible it's insane yeah but now we're talking about Cole I guess what I'm saying is- We all just like carnage. We want to see him battle. You want to see it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 You want to see it. We pay to see fucking YouTubers box. We can't see a fucking rap beat. But also, this is a friendly- But now we're getting what we actually wanted. I don't think anybody wanted to see J. Cole and Drake go against Kendrick together. That's a two on one. If anything, J. Cole separates himself, maintains his relationship with both guys. They get to all dap up when they hang out. Everybody still likes
Starting point is 00:15:28 J Cole. He gets to do features for everybody. He doesn't live with the beef or looking over his shoulder. Drake is used to that. He's like, this is going to be my life. I'm looking over my shoulder. I got security. I got hood dudes over here who got my back. I'm partnering up with these dudes in Houston, these dudes in Toronto. I'm set up. So he's used to that fucking life. Whereas J. Cole's like, I don't think I want that life. I don't want to look over my fucking shoulder. And not like he would have to in this scenario. It just sucks.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I genuinely think, like, if you, in order to get where you want in your career, had to shit on someone you really admired and respected, how would you feel? Well, that's how I felt last week with Ben Shapiro. Like, if you look throughout my career, like, I've really, like, loved, respected, and admired him. Yeah, exactly. Like, it's not like I've ever made fun of him for the last decade. No, just two Jews in solidarity.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, we were together, and I've just, you know, every chance I had, like, tried to talk about what a genius this guy is and how amazing he is at debate and how much I love his political opinion. You know what I mean? Like, if you actually look, if you look at my disc opinion. You know what I mean? If you actually look, if you look at my discography, you know what I mean? If you look at what I've done on this
Starting point is 00:16:30 platform, you will see, you hand him a support I had a point that I forgot. The point that you're trying to make is the greatest beef between a black person and a Jewish person is not Drake versus Kendrick. It's Candice and Ben Shapiro. And we put that on the map. We made that happen. It's going down. Ben Shapiro And we put that on the map We made that happen
Starting point is 00:16:45 It's going down And I'm backing out like J. Cole I don't want nothing to do with it Guys, beef is toxic I don't want anything to do with it This is too much pressure Too much pressure You really did ignite right with Twitter
Starting point is 00:17:04 Bro, it was crazy. I looked up Twitter. Every single thing. I mean, every different community is using me in whatever way suits them. It is a forest fire out there. I saw almost exclusively praise. I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:19 what you're seeing, but I saw almost exclusively people being like, thank you. We can finally hate Jews. Exactly. It was praise for shit you don't want to be praised for. Yeah. Yeah. But we got to get to the bottom of this. I got to figure out. Yeah. I just think, um, you wouldn't moderate. Here's the thing. Rap battle. Maybe I would moderate the rap battle if they, if they did it through rap. There's a greater chance for violence in this beef than any of the rat beefs. That's right. Yo, that's an interesting one. Moderate the debate between Candace and... So what do I ask them?
Starting point is 00:17:51 Jews? How do you feel about that? What are the questions that you want... What are the questions you want them to speak on? Just like, what are your opinions on Israel? Don't they both know? Yeah, I feel like they've already said that. They both said their opinions, so now they're going to debate the
Starting point is 00:18:05 efficacy of their opinions? Yeah, that is debating. So both of them are claiming that the other person is not being genuine or honest or truthful in their opinions about Israel and Palestine. No, I think it's whose views are superior is the point of a debate. You take two high level people on two issues, or
Starting point is 00:18:21 one divisive issue, two high level people on both sides of that issue have at it and then the person who wins that side is like, fuck you and your opinions. Y'all are wrong or right. He's describing a debate. He's describing a debate. He did a good job.
Starting point is 00:18:37 What do you want? That's a debate. That's the nature of a debate. That was really good what you did. It was pointless, but it was really good. Listen, a rap beef is when two rappers will have bars against one another of a debate. That was really good what you did. It was pointless, but it was really good. What was the claim? Listen, a rap beef is when two rappers will have bars against one another
Starting point is 00:18:48 and then the audience will decide which one is more hot. What do we want on this debate? That's what we want. No, no, no. What I meant was
Starting point is 00:18:54 what do we want them to actually talk about? For example, for me, the interesting thing would be why she's no longer working there.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So it's not like what are your opinions on Israel- palestine it's was she fired because of israel opinions was she fired because fired because she just had these absurd stories that she was reporting as if they were truth like what what is the extent of the overton window he talks about this overton window we don't know it's be if it's because her journalism was just so salacious that he's like you can't even publish this this is ridiculous or if. Or if it's, hey, you're not speaking about Israel in the way that I like. Now we're going to have to clip you.
Starting point is 00:19:29 To me, that is more interesting. Yeah. Than having the same debate about Israel-Palestine that I've heard a million fucking times. If I have to see Norman Finkelstein go over and over again, I'm going to blow my fucking head off. We know Bridget McCrone's a dude. We don't have to debate. We get it. Yeah, we don't need to debate.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I don't need anybody to explain to that. You can't be the president's wife unless you act dick. Hell yeah. You know that. You know that. I can't talk about Melania like that. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:19:54 I mean, if Melania was trans, I'm gobbling. Let me just tell you something. If Melania's trans, I'm gobbling. With all due respect. With all due respect to Uncle TT, you can't tell me you're not gobbling ifania's trans i'm gobbling with all due respect with all due respect to uncle tt you can't tell me you're not gobbling if she's i can tell you i'm not gobbling you're not gonna
Starting point is 00:20:10 suck a ball or two or three you don't know what she got she from chernobyl bro you know what she got down there she might got the triplets what i'm trying to say is if melania got a dang-a-lang i'm gobbling with all due respect to Trump. Son, do you see how big Barron Trump is? You can't get there without double-tested. You need both sides. Why do you got this? Now you're acting crazy right now, Mark.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Who is that? Mark, you're acting crazy. They actually kind of look alike. That's crazy side by side. That's not by the way. Caitlyn Jenner acts for Mark's forehead. Caitlyn showed a picture of Mark's forehead and said, give me that. Yo, Melania is trans.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yo, stop. Why every president's wife got to be trans? Why every president's wife got to be trans? Now y'all like trans? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doesn't it hurt when the president, you love her? First of all, shout out to Derek Poston. You never liked trans.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You just liked first ladies. Okay, Derek? You never liked trans women You just liked first ladies. Okay, Derek? You never liked trans women. You liked first ladies. That's what that means. At first, they were ladies. That's why they called that, dude. Listen, she's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:21:13 He's beautiful. Whatever. They're beautiful. They're fucking beautiful. Big Milo, man. Yo, they're beautiful, son. Stop it. You're saying you wouldn't take a sniff?
Starting point is 00:21:20 You wouldn't just sniff it down? You wouldn't put it in your hand like this and just go go i kind of want to know what trans pussy smell like hey put your hand down your pants scratch and sniff my boy oh you're good that's it you know you know exactly what it smells like you've been smelling it for 35 years. It can't change smells, right? I assume it smells new or something. Yeah, new car smells. Like a sports story or something. I don't know, like a Models.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It kind of smells like rubbery. Dude. You know that smell. Yeah. Like a catcher's mitt. Like a Rawlings. Pussy should smell like Rawlings. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:05 The new one. Nice new Rawlings? Yeah. Pussy should smell like Rawlings. Yeah, exactly. The new one. The new one. Nice new Rawlings before you put that ball in it? Yeah. Before you put the rubber band on the foil? The art of fish.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The art of fish, dude. Put it in a microwave a couple seconds. You put it in a microwave? Yeah, and it helps soften it. That makes sense, actually. Bro, I did so much dumb shit with my soccer cleats
Starting point is 00:22:21 when I was a kid. What'd you do? They'd always be like, okay, you gotta wear them in the shower. Oh, and then they kind of mold to your feet? That was like what they said. I don't know if that shit worked at all, when I was a kid. What'd you do? They'd always be like, okay, you got to wear them in the shower. Oh, and then they kind of mold to your feet? That was like what they said.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I don't know if that shit worked at all, but I was like 14 years old just butt-ass taking my soccer cleats. Did it really bother you? Like I was feeling porn or something. Was it really uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:22:36 for you to get in the shower? Yeah, that was the worst part. That's how they convinced you to shower. I had to check him with soccer cleats. No, the best way. Dude, your touch will be so good.
Starting point is 00:22:48 All right, here he goes. Yeah, dude. You're just trying to balance jerking off your sock and cleats in the shower. That's terrifying. Yeah, my touch was so sticky, bro. And the coach is like, oh, hey, I got to wash your feet now.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Get no water, dude. That is crazy, dude. How about this? This might be on a Patreon episode. Mark admitted that his coach molested him and his teammates. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't give that out for free. Okay?
Starting point is 00:23:09 You gotta subscribe. Patreon.com slash flagrant. If you want to know how we're all molested, you sign up right there. Okay? Alex's story's coming next. Okay. Listen, so basically the point is... They need to debate, and you're going to moderate.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I'm going to moderate the debate between Kendrick and J. Cole. Yes. And Candace and Ben. Life tour. Charlotte, we added a second show April 13th, okay? Following weekend, we have Nashville, the grand old Opry House or the Opry House. I'm not exactly sure what it's called these days, but you know what it is. Then we got the Moody Center in
Starting point is 00:23:45 Austin. And then we got Phoenix. We added a second show in Phoenix. Go get those. Theandrewschultz.com. There's more cities. They're up on the website. Thank you guys so much, Texas. 14,000 people. That was fucking unreal. Houston, Dallas, God bless you. That was just amazing. Thank you guys so much. And yeah, very soon, very soon, MSG, New York City, we're about to do it, man. I cannot fucking wait. Now let's get back to the show. Listen up, noodle dicks. I've used that once before already, but I like it. Anyway, thank you guys so much. Gaslit is at 1.9 million views and it's hitting one month today, the day this drops. So, guys, let's get it to 2 million.
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Starting point is 00:24:59 at akashsting.com and please check out Gaslow. Let's get to 2 million on YouTube today. Thank you guys so much. Now let's get back to the show. I don't know enough about Candace's stuff, right? I know that, like, she said one of the funniest things ever,
Starting point is 00:25:12 which is when she was saying that Bridget McCraw, which is the president of France's wife, was a man. She said, I will bet my career on this. I mean, like, think of the things you would bet your career on. Think about how many of them there are the reason why I'm laughing at that is y'all ever like
Starting point is 00:25:30 had to like throw garbage into a trash can from far and you're like if I make this I get everything I want in my life
Starting point is 00:25:36 for something like that you like in your mind bet your career on it and even then your hand is shit you're like let me get a little closer let me just dunk this thing
Starting point is 00:25:44 she bet her career on a story that is 99% probably not true. I mean, maybe the president of France's wife is a pedophile. That, if she's like, I bet my career on that. It's more likely. Pretty likely. Yeah, yeah. Right? Met the kid when he was 15 or something like that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Ends up marrying him. That's a little bit goofy. I know in France, that's considered ancient. Yeah. Fucking a 15- year old is is very it's unbelievable patience yeah a hundred percent but still the conversion scale french 15 is american 38 it's metric yeah they're operating on celsius and it is what it is their numbers are celsius okay but to say the president's wife is a man i bet my career on that. Is, is, is absurd.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. Is absurd. I guess she was wrong. No, no, no, no. Now, we're going to see. We're going to see. Oh, well, she lost her job. She didn't lose her career.
Starting point is 00:26:35 She didn't lose her career. If anything, I think she's bigger. I think she's going to pull her dick out. No, no. You're like, we're going to see. I was like, what is this pay-per-view? That's crazy. Nah.
Starting point is 00:26:43 I mean, that's how they could stop all the Muslims from coming to France. I know that's a big issue. But if they really want to stop it, I mean, that is a great move right there. You just market that. You sure you want to come to this country? We're all gay. I mean, that is a strategy. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:26:59 I just found it funny because she's like, Miss, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't ask for handouts. And then the moment she gets fired, she's asking for donations. Like, I just found that so hypocritical. No way. Yeah. I didn't know she was asking for donations. Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:27:16 I'm like. Does she have her own platform now or something? I think she's trying to, you know, keep her platform going. Ah. I mean, listen, she's like, here's the thing with her she does not give a fuck we all talk about like saying whatever the fuck you want candace lives that i don't say whatever the fuck i want she does she lives that shit so the only way that you can live that shit and make money is if you have donations i think that you get to a certain point of salaciousness that brands are going to be
Starting point is 00:27:48 scared and brands. And that is, that could be, and that's why I want to see them talk. That could be the reason for the firing. The reason for the firing, I think we've all assumed that it was the Israel-Palestine stuff because she's been going hard. And Ben has been outspoken about that as well. But if it's because of this journalism that he was like yo what the fuck are we publishing the president's wife is a is a man the french president's wife is a man that could change the discourse now i don't know why ben wouldn't have just said that in the first place yeah the fact that he didn't makes me go hmm you know but i don't know but yeah i would like to see them talk. Moderate it. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, I would love to see Schultz moderate it because he would just be inflammatory. He wouldn't moderate anything. Yeah, Schultz would be like, I think you two are really, you should really argue a little more. Like, I don't think this is, I don't mean stuff being said. You would just ask a question and go,
Starting point is 00:28:37 oh. Yeah, we go on. We go on Schoolyard. We go on Schoolyard the whole time. I think he's calling you pussy. Yeah, 100%. Ben, I would not tolerate that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:45 What you just said to me right there, I would not. All right, fuck it. I'll moderate it. Fuck it. I'll moderate it. You're more hype manning, I think, is what it is. Okay, can I do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Do I have to choose a side? Depending on the argument. Flavor, flavor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be great. Do I come with a clock? Yeah. That'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. Maybe I moderate it. All right, we'll see. We'll see what happens. I don't even think that they do it. That's my suspicion. Did you see both sides pump faking over the weekend?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah. I saw it, but it doesn't look like she's pump faking. It looks like he was. Because she says that this was a planned trip that she was supposed to be in London. And the Daily Wire was aware of it? Yeah. Oh, sorry. It was mainly Daily Wire.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Daily Wire was like, oh, you're all here. Candace wasn't pump faking. She's like, like yo let's set it up let's do it i just don't want to do it on your guys platform which i think is a very fair thing right you would do it on neutral site yeah but uh but the daily wire was like yeah let's do it monday and it's just like you know i'm in london monday yeah and you know that because you had booked your talent to be here and then i was part of your company and you knew about my schedules and maybe they didn't know about the schedules but once she says that you have to relinquish i think van also had a tweet that
Starting point is 00:29:50 was like this some one of his guys on his team's like this is what we're offering take it or leave it i think they use the words take it or leave it which is the back and forth is like annoying but yeah fair fair enough it seems like they were trying to be like let's put it into a specific thing she we know she can make so she looks bad and we look good and we don't have to debate. Damn, yo. The fucking rappers is getting out-rapped. They get out-beefed.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yo, it's a really sad day for rap. Yeah. They don't want it no more. They living pretty. They living comfy. They making too much money. They don't want the smoke. Or they're just protecting their peace.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yo. Come on, bro. Respect to you, J. Cole. We still think you're a great rapper. Go to therapy. Nope. But you never liked him for beefing anyway. Yeah, but now this is, now he's pussy.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Did you think he was a tough guy? I didn't think he was pussy. I think Al would have liked if he just didn't, and he says it was a mistake. We all make mistakes, but Al was like, just don't, would be like, just don't respond. Yeah. If you just don't say a fucking word. It's like you said. It's like he slapped him and then he was like, yo, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
Starting point is 00:30:45 That's the worst person to fight. That's true. He did say, though, like, if you want to respond, go ahead. Like, you got it. He slapped him and then was like, I'm done. But that's also like, you're not going to slap that guy. Come on, bro. Yeah, you basically, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah, you said I have cerebral palsy. Like, if you got to hit me, hit me. But I'm not going to do it. Yeah, like. You should have never put out the Yeah. You're like, hmm. You should have never put out the track. That is what I love. And I don't necessarily listen to Kendrick albums.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'm not whatever. But, like, I love that he openly wants it. The control verse is still one of my favorite verses in the past 10, 15 years. Because he openly is like, hey, no hard feelings. I want that. I'm the best. Let's go. Anybody who wants it best let's go anybody who wants it let's go yeah i love that he has that energy cole i didn't cole will say it but then he just backs off drake probably might probably has too much to lose but he's not getting he'll take like
Starting point is 00:31:36 shots like between songs at a concert or make like a post on instagram or caption kendrick on a track will be like i I'm the fucking best ever. Anybody who doesn't agree, feel free. Let's go. Say a Kendrick bar. King Kunta. Say a Kendrick bar.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Nah, that's like... The whole control verse, that goes for Big Cole, Crit, Jermaine Wale. He names everybody. Yeah. And then he's, I'm trying to murder you, N-Words. Like, make sure your core fans never heard of you, N-Words.
Starting point is 00:32:10 They don't want to hear one more noun or verb from you, N-Words. That's fire, dude. That shit is fire. Yeah. It's hard to quote without the N-Words. Yeah. Yeah. It kind of makes it difficult.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, I guess. You can feel it. Anyway, listen, outside of conservative rap beef, rap rap beef, we have had some global events, some cataclysms. Well, not cataclysms, not even close. But we have had some events that might lead to the great cataclysm. The beginning of end times. Mark has done some research about this. Mark, can you please fill us in?
Starting point is 00:32:48 This is going to be a conspiracy corner conversation. It's not a conspiracy, bro. Oh, this is real? This is real. Okay, Mark, just fill us in, please. Speaking of beef, the red heifers have been delivered to Israel. Explain what that means. You would like to know.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Red bone girls? The red heifers. First time I heard this was from the... Lotto? First time I heard this was from the Ninjas or Butterflies guys who have all the clips on Instagram. Shout out to these guys.
Starting point is 00:33:15 You seem like chill dudes. Their content I see every single time I open up Instagram. They have every conspiracy absolutely locked the fuck down. I'm sure that they have a long-form podcast. I have not listened to long-form yet, but they're killing it on social
Starting point is 00:33:29 and it's awesome. It is just like 60 seconds of absolute heat. They're like, literally just absorb your whole next hour of your day. You'd be like, I guess there are giants. You're just walking around. But this is the one that I saw
Starting point is 00:33:45 that kind of piqued my interest where I was like, oh shit. And then I saw it percolating everywhere and then it got picked up by like CBS and MSNBC. Like big news companies are talking about this. So basically, the Jews want to build a third temple.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Third temple. The first one was... Temple of David. Destroyed by the Babylonians. Fucking Babylonians. The next one destroyed by the Romans, I think, or Herod or some shit, 70 AD. Okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:08 It's been a long time. They want to rebuild the third one. That will basically usher in their Messiah. They don't have a Messiah, right? So, in order to build the temple, they need a red heifer. Can I ask you one question real quick? Yeah, go ahead. Their Messiah.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Is that Jesus? Or supposed to be Jesus? No. According to me. But they need someone else to come through. And some Jews believe that this guy, I forget his name, I think it's the Lubavitch Jews. Yeah. They believe that that guy's already showed up.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah, the rabbi. Yes. And he's going to come back. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He has passed already, but they think he's going to come back. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He has passed already, but they think he's going to come back. Yes. That he was in human form as the Rebbe, and he's going to come back as the Messiah. But that's just one sect of Jews.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Of ultra-Orthodox, yeah. Yes. Okay, so they believe in the death and reincarnation. Dick biters. Yo, that's how you know Christ is King, son. Because you heard the story. What, you're going to have Christmas next? What else y'all want?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Y'all want Easter too? Fuck out of here, yo. Get your own story. Get modernized. Get your own story. Turn your cheek. We're not doing that. Turn your cheek.
Starting point is 00:35:12 We're not doing that. Come on. Okay? So basically, they need a red heifer, okay? A red heifer is literally a red cow. Yes. And this is a cow that has all these super specific things. And they need to sacrifice the heifer in order to basically do a ritual ceremony to then purify all the people building the temple and purify all the tools building the temple.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Gotcha. And where are they going to build the temple? Great question, no one asked. They're going to build it on the temple mount. Oh, no. I'm fine, Sal. I'm about to punch your legs, huh? That's basically it.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Get your ass up. Oh, no. Go on your grill. Oh, no. Because why is that tricky? Because the Temple Mount is... Controlled and basically has a mosque on it and controlled by the Muslims in the Middle East.
Starting point is 00:35:56 And it has been for a couple hundred years. Well, not in the Middle East. It's in Jerusalem. In Jerusalem, yeah. But on the Palestinian side. Yeah. And it has a mosque on it. I believe it's Al-Aqsa, right?
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah, exactly. So Al-Aqsa. They want to take more land, bro? Oh, shit. Just one little thing. One little thing. Give them 30 feet. Bro.
Starting point is 00:36:14 They need to go 30 feet. They just want the Northex, dude. They don't even want the whole thing. I'm not going to lie, bro. I'm not going to lie. When we were in Jerusalem, bro, we went like underneath. Oh, sorry. We went like underneath.
Starting point is 00:36:24 We went underneath the. Oh, sorry. We went like underneath. We went underneath the tunnel, bro. Yeah, they had tunnels. What was down there, bro? They had a fucking tunnel. You got a mattress down there? Sure, what was it? And you know who was building them?
Starting point is 00:36:37 They had Palestinians building them. So that's where they learned. That's where the Palestinians learned. Fucked up, fuck around, find out. It's an away game. But I remember us going and basically what they've done is in order to get your prayers up to God
Starting point is 00:36:50 the closest place to God I believe is in the prayer section of the temple mount right, so that is where God comes and answers all your prayers that is my understanding and I think that's why when you're at the coattail you
Starting point is 00:37:06 know that the wailing wall where they put the little piece of paper like that's as close as they can get to the temple mount so you put your bit and you're like okay i'm pretty close maybe god is going to read the little paper through that yeah it's like dial-up yes dial-up exactly but you want ethernet you want to be plugged in so there is an underground passageway that they've been excavating, right? So you basically are going underneath, and you're getting really close to the Temple Mount. Now, they're not like directly under the Temple Mount, but you're like as close as they legally can. And I remember being under there, and I was like, this is egregious, guys. Like, you're really pushing it right now yeah it's like
Starting point is 00:37:47 you can't go on top of the land to it but they're going underneath it feels a little bit like you're like a little sibling being like yeah yeah you're bugging me though yes yes 100 um okay okay back to your story so basically not a story it's the facts yes basically they need a red heifer and they need to combine the ashes of the red heifer with the previous nine red heifers. The last red heifer to be sacrificed in this way was 2,000 years ago. So that's where things have left off.
Starting point is 00:38:14 That's the prophecy. But they need eight before that, right? No, no, no. They've already had nine. Accumulated. They need to do one more. Now, this site is obviously important for everyone. It's important for Christians.
Starting point is 00:38:24 It's important for Muslims. Obviously, that's where... Why is it important for Christians? I mean, I think it's just one... Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, right? Basically, if they rebuild the temple, evangelical Christians specifically, but I think generally all Christians, I guess,
Starting point is 00:38:36 believe that that's when the Messiah will return, when Jesus comes back. So we're kind of like... So evangelicals are in on it. They want that shit to pop off i think sermon on the mountain is where jesus said turn the other cheek or whatever the fuck maybe i shouldn't say fuck my bed but yeah it's all good bro forget forget say it again but like muslims care about it because that's where uh muhammad prays be upon heaven yo yo
Starting point is 00:39:04 yo yo yo yo yo that that's debatable bros be upon him to heaven. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. That's debatable, bro. I'm not going to debate that. I'm just saying it's debatable. I don't fuck with Muslims, bro. That's debatable. I'll make fun of Jews. I'll make fun of Jews.
Starting point is 00:39:15 I'll make fun of Christians. While we're on public record, I don't make fun of Muslims. You're 100% right. What some people say is that Muhammad went there in a dream. That he himself never arrived at al-aqsa but he went there in his dream and you believe that well i mean that's what every jew has ever told me now the muslims were like now he pulled up bro he rode up with the donkey you know they was chilling in
Starting point is 00:39:35 there the gaslighting dude the gaslighting it was a dream it was a dream dude but how do we know who's right who's wrong it's so many years have passed. You know what I mean? Who's telling the truth? The side you're afraid of seems like they, right? Which side? I'm afraid of all of them. Okay? See, only the Christians I'm not afraid of.
Starting point is 00:39:55 That's why Christians need to rule the world. So that we can not live in fear. Okay? We're afraid of all of them. So the red heifer has to be perfect, okay? It has to be perfect in its redness two hairs of any other color will disqualify it even the hooves have to be red it has to be three or four years old other older animals uh won't be able to be sacrificed
Starting point is 00:40:15 there can't be any kind of internal or external defect or blemish they can't have been yoked done any physical labor even had a person lean on it They can't even have had a blanket put on it. So basically a couple of rabbis go to an evangelical Texas rancher and it's basically like, hey, we need your help getting these red heifers. Now you need us. They need five. Now you need us. They get five of them. Yeah. Yeah. All perfect. No blemishes. They get sent over to Israel. Now they're in Israel right now. They basically built the altar on the Mount of Olives where they're going to sacrifice the heifer. This is where it gets a little wild. Apparently, a Hamas
Starting point is 00:40:49 spokesperson claims, this happened in 2022, a Hamas spokesperson claims that part of the reason that October 7th happened was because of the red heifers. I was like, there's no way that's true. I googled it. Apparently, the dude was like, yeah, the red heifer. I mean, how hard is it to be a Hamas spokesperson?
Starting point is 00:41:06 That's a great... I mean, I hard is it to be a Hamas spokesperson? That's a great... I mean, I feel like at this time, you could just raise your hand. And be like, yeah, I'm doing PR for Hamas. Yeah. They could use the help. I mean, if anyone wants to pick up a PR job, that's probably a good one. Easily.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I mean, they can't do it. They're playing fucking Super Mario Bros. right now. You know what I mean? They are. They're in the plumbing. Aren they i guess okay i mean if you really want to get them out of there you just start playing okay so but yeah so basically they see it like okay if you get the red heifers here that means you're trying to make a move on the temple mount that means you're trying to take our shit so we gotta buck up and that's going to create more conflict.
Starting point is 00:41:45 So as ridiculous as this seems maybe to us, these are all believers. They all believe. So if you believe the prophecy and keep in mind, these are all Abrahamic religions. So the latest one has to believe the stuff before. So Muslims have to believe in Christians. Christians have to believe in Jews. Jews don't really have to believe in the future ones, but when they need some red heifers,
Starting point is 00:42:07 who the fuck they come to? Who the fuck they come to? Texans, baby. The boys! The boys! Texans, brother. Turbo! Turbo!
Starting point is 00:42:16 Hey there, brother. I've got some fat bitches from San Antonio for you, brother. Yeah, dude. So it's all heat. No, apparently they're going to sacrifice the red heifer during passover which is in like a week and then their messiah will come no because they don't got the temple mount it's going to start the end times that once they sacrifice the red heifer then they can start getting the tools and the people to build then they want the end times
Starting point is 00:42:38 well they want to get the messiah popping and he'll but the messiah is a messenger of death it seems no this is salvation for the for the jewish jews for the chosen ones for the chosen this is the end of the prophecy they get to actually you know do whatever their prophecy says seems a little selfish stupid that seems a little selfish hindus are involved how they're sacrificing your uncle that's right that red heifer that red heifer could be related to you. Somewhere, right? I mean, maybe in like a thousand lives ago.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But I'm just saying there's, what, 15 million Jews? You're going to end the whole world for 15 million of you? There's 8 billion people. Have Jews been known to be extremely considerate? I'm just saying. Hey, how's the temperature for you guys? We'll keep it there. You've never had Jews in heaven before?
Starting point is 00:43:24 Now, question, question. Because you guys? We'll keep it there. Now, question. Question. Yeah. Within, because you guys believe in reincarnation, are you more accepting of bestiality? Okay. So I can move on to the next part of this. That's a good question.
Starting point is 00:43:38 I don't think so. But it happens. I mean, y'all got that video of the guy getting fucked by the horse. But he does it for the love of the game, I think. Yeah, he's doing it for the horse. Like, he doesn't feel good from that. He just thought the horse needed to get that off. He didn't have confidence in his hand game. Mr. Hands.
Starting point is 00:43:56 No, but he's gay. He wants to get fucked in his ass by the biggest dick possible, so he goes horse. We don't know if he's gay. Why are you assuming he's gay? Well, that's pretty gay. He fucked a horse in your ass.
Starting point is 00:44:04 He fucked a horse. That's not... Yeah, a horse is... A horse, there's gay why are you assuming he's gay that's pretty gay he fucked a horse he fucked a horse that's not yeah a horse there's no gender it's a horse no no that horse had a gender no but it's not a gender
Starting point is 00:44:12 it's a horse that horse might have been the first lady of France we don't know we don't know can you moderate here we need a moderator if they got a dick
Starting point is 00:44:19 it's easy yeah but nobody sees someone fucking an animal and goes is that horse a male leave it to black people to be like whoa that's disgusting he's a fucking gay guy dude what a gay guy Nobody sees someone fucking an animal and goes, is that horse a male? Leave it to Blackface to be like,
Starting point is 00:44:26 whoa, that's disgusting. He's a fucking gay guy, dude. That's a big problem. Get that big problem. A horse is a pussy, right? That's what he needs to be called. Okay, so. But all they got to do is just lean up against his horse and now you just disqualify all these horses.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, you don't have to put a blanket on him. Exactly. But it's being guarded by the IDF. No way. Literally, it's being guarded within a idf no way literally it's being guarded within like a specific building it's like being protected the red heifers yes what is going on in this world i know this is stupid i didn't believe really i'm sorry religious people but this is they believe in drones and red heifers that's a kind of insane thing that's a great point like great point news why even go fight the war if you've got the red heifers?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Most sophisticated missile defense system in the world. Also, find me six red cows. Yeah. It's one or the other. Yeah. If you truly believe. Whoa. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Whoa. Oh, shit. Whoa. Talk that shit, Candace. Whoa. Whoa. No, because if you truly believe, you don't have a backup plan, that's the idea with Faith.
Starting point is 00:45:27 There was no backup plan when my boy was about to split his kid in half. What was his name? Isaac. Isaac was about to chop his kid in half. No, Abraham was going to chop Isaac in half. Oh, yeah. Whatever that was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:39 You know. And he was about to split him in half, but there was no backup plan. There was like, oh, you know, but by the way, I don't know was no backup plan there was like oh you know but by the way I don't know what the backup plan in that situation would be how many kids did he have one
Starting point is 00:45:50 that's right and it was really hard for him and his wife to conceive and then they finally conceived and he was gonna chop that motherfucker in half there was no backup plan and then God was like
Starting point is 00:45:57 just the dick and then it worked fucking genius that guy man yeah dude but I mean Noah had a backup plan that's true Noah pat noah had one plan well it was like you could die here or you get on the boat but it wasn't backup it was like i know this thing is going to happen i have so much faith that this thing is going to happen
Starting point is 00:46:14 so i have to build this boat so maybe billions of dollars of missiles is the that's the boat well then you don't believe in the red heifers well no the red heifers are going to bring it in but then you got to have the the the ammoifers. Well, no, the red heifers are going to bring it in, but then you got to have the ammo to back it up. They would say that millions of dollars, billions of dollars or whatever would protect the red heifers
Starting point is 00:46:31 so we can do this. Otherwise... Got it, got it, got it. It's been 2,000 years. Got it, got it. I get it, I get it. It's Hamas animals. I get it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I get it. I get what you're saying. Okay. So evangelicals are on board with it. So evangelicals and Jews are just fucking linked in the the rancher that they found to get this was like yeah man i feel like i'm doing my purpose
Starting point is 00:46:49 right now wow that's hilarious but it's really interesting because they're it's mutually assured destruction of each other so the the christians are doing it because you know jesus is coming back and he's killing all these jews and anybody else and we're going to have it and the jews are doing it because they're like our guy's coming and he's killing all these christians anybody else, and we're going to have it. And the Jews are doing it because they're like, our guy's coming, and he's killing all these Christians, whatever. So they're both gambling on the same thing, right? Even Juggles would say, like, every knee will bend when they see the true light of Christ. And what did you say?
Starting point is 00:47:14 Jews are like, you guys are dead. Amazing! Amazing! I want to do this as, like, a dinner theater. I want to do this as like a dinner theater. I want to do Medieval Times, where it's every different religion. You get to pick one, and then they play it all out. You're dead, and you're going to hell. You're not just dead.
Starting point is 00:47:33 You're going to hell. Well, some Jews don't believe in hell, I guess. I don't know. We've got to talk to the Jews. Yeah, I don't think they believe in it. Yeah. That's good. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So it's kind of that part's considerate. Yeah. It's hard enough to be Jewish that they don't feel like you should be tortured in the afterlife as well. Do you know what I mean? What the hell is just living as a Jewish person? Every second of every day,
Starting point is 00:47:55 constantly analyzing everything around you. There's discomfort. Yeah. Yeah. So there's one part of this. They have to mix the red heifer, the current sacrifice, with the other red heifers from 2,000 years ago. Mix them, meaning the ashes. They have to mix the red heifer, the current sacrifice, with the other red heifers
Starting point is 00:48:05 from 2,000 years ago. Mix them, meaning the ashes. They have to mix the ashes. And where do they find the ashes of the older ones? They don't have. Psych. They're inside.
Starting point is 00:48:14 I fucking got you so bad. You really thought that was it. You fucking idiot. That was adorable. That was adorable. It's called drama, guys. We'll edit it. Go, go, go.
Starting point is 00:48:23 That was sick. Go, go, go. That was awesome. Where they found the dead sea squirrels, they also found a clay pot full of ashes. Of red heifers? Of red heifers. There's no way that they could look at the biology
Starting point is 00:48:33 and find out that they're red heifers. This is so sad. How do we know it's not Jesus' ashes? How do we know it's not a Baba Ghanoush from a long time ago? If we look it up, it might be some mashed egg plants. For real, stop, stop, stop.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Wait, so we're just not going to look into it and just hope it's red heifers? And then we're going to mix it? They found the ashes of the red heifers in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Isn't that crazy? Holy fuck. It's fucking out here, dude. Yo, can you answer something real quick? I can't. Come on. Can you answer
Starting point is 00:49:01 something real quick? This is so silly. Hey, Alex, can you fucking learn something? Yeah, I'm trying. Oh, we're the real Jews. You don't even listen what is hey Alex can you fucking learn something we're the real Jews you don't even listen one time come on
Starting point is 00:49:10 listen I am the lost tribe you guys are just the late tribe what are they basically I think it's like the apocrypha
Starting point is 00:49:21 it's basically like old gospels it's like gospels that like talk about jesus and the fucking jews these are our books or these are jew books or these are muzzy books i think there are books plus i think it's i think it's christian okay so it's it's the good guys you found the good guys the good guys you got okay okay can i get a fact check? Shifty, we have one actual Christian in the room. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Can you tell us what the Dead Sea Scrolls are? Mic him up! Mic him up! We're not silencing Christians on this podcast. Go ahead. I'm pretty sure it's just a collection of both books. It's like Jews and Christians. And it's like, because we both read some of the same books.
Starting point is 00:50:03 That's what I would have to guess. And is it talking about Jesus? Yeah, I think some of them are Gospels, I'm pretty sure. And it's like the oldest one we ever found. I found it, brother. Okay, brother, talk to us. 40% of the copies are texts of Hebrew scriptures. Other 30% are texts from the Second Temple period, which were not canonized in the Hebrew
Starting point is 00:50:19 Bible, like the Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilee, Book of Tobit, the Wisdom of Sirach, Psalms 152 through 155. The remainder, 30%, are sectarian manuscripts of previously unknown documents that shed light on the rules and beliefs of a particular sect or groups within greater Judaism, like community rule, Habakkuk, the rule of blessings, and the war scroll.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You're going to have to explain that again, brother. I caught none of that. I understood maybe 50% of those words, brother. I thought that was English. You said Tibet and Enoch, and I just shut off, brother. Let me hear it one more time. I heard Hab of that. I understood maybe 50% of the words, brother. You said Tibet and Enoch, and I just shut off, brother. Let me hear it one more time. It's about 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will.
Starting point is 00:50:53 It's just like scriptures and then... It's all Jewish, though. Well, no, because Psalms and shit like that. Book of Enoch. Enoch is Jewish, dog. Come on. Enoch is like mark's mom's shit yeah enoch's like a completely different thing red pill no it's like a it's like pre-bible don't they talk about aliens and shit yeah your mom me and your mom oh the nephilim oh that's
Starting point is 00:51:18 the giants yeah see we're back on giants i love giants yeah they had giants back on the Giants. Son, I love Giants. Yeah. They had Giants back in the day. Did you? Yeah, yeah. We got Jinder Mahal. We doing it. Yeah, we did. So, yeah. And then we had the eclipse on top of all that. Full totality over the town of Nineveh.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Why does that matter? Because Nineveh is the place where Jonah went and was like, hey, it's going to be dark. After 40 days of darkness, judgment's going to come unless you all repent. Son, he could kill me now you keep telling this story. I don't know what the fuck. Let judgment come. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:51:51 I'm locked in. Go on. Go on. This one, I don't know. I don't really think this makes as much sense. But basically, they're saying full totality across the United States over seven towns of Nineveh. Back in the Bible, Jonah went to the people of Nineveh and was like, hey, it's going to be dark tomorrow. And then you have 40 days from that moment to repent. If you don't
Starting point is 00:52:10 repent, the day of judgment will be upon you. They all repented and they were spared the day of judgment. But what you're saying is what happened yesterday was the exact same solar eclipse that happened back in the day. Holy shit. Can I tell you something very quickly? Please. Sure. Did you even have to wear glasses yesterday? Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Hold on, hold on. That's hilarious, bro. Hold on, hold on. That's hilarious, bro. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, that's so funny. Alex, Alex, Alex, calm down, Alex. Alex, calm down.
Starting point is 00:52:45 Alex, calm down. Oh, that got me.. Alex, calm down, Alex. Alex, calm down. What the hell, Alex? Oh, that got me. Okay, no, no. Another one. Yesterday, all of us saw the eclipse, right? Yeah, we all saw the eclipse. Okay. When Schultz's nose went across the sun.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Yeah, that's true. So, basically, I was looking at the eclipse for, I would say, about maybe three minutes. Not directly, but when I started texting the group, I was like, is this shit happening or not? And then y'all kept messaging me these dark-ass pictures where you'd see the sun. And I'd look at the picture, and I'd look up, and I'd be like, I don't think this shit happened. Why? You didn't know the glasses? I didn't know you needed the glasses to see it.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Right? And all I'm thinking in that moment is like, how the fuck they saw this back in the day? Because they didn't have these glasses back in the day. Oh, that's a good point. How the hell would they see it? Eyes are good eyes. They use shadows.
Starting point is 00:53:39 What's that? They use shadows. Miles is very into this. They use shadows? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What does that mean? Like, if you looked at the shadows... Stop!
Starting point is 00:53:45 When you said that, did you think we would understand or were you reading from the fucking book of Enoch or whatever? It's Enoch shit. It's alien shit. No, they use shadows to see it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 What does that mean? So, like, if you put a colander... If you put a colander... Jifty, kick him! No, don't kick him. He's too far. I'll have to J. Cole slap you right now. I'm going to apologize.
Starting point is 00:54:02 What the fuck? If you have a circular hole and it casts a shadow, it'll be the shape of the eclipse. So it'll be crescent shaped. But here's the thing. How would they even know
Starting point is 00:54:13 it's going to happen? They don't know when it's coming. Well, totality gets dark. You've got to imagine there's just random people walking around. So they went and found paper
Starting point is 00:54:20 when it got dark? Hold on. Hold on one second. No. You're making so much sense and this guy's driving me crazy. Hold on. This shit happens once
Starting point is 00:54:27 in the same situation in the same place like once in 300 years. So you're telling me it happened, it got dark out of nowhere during the day and then got light again
Starting point is 00:54:34 and they were like, we should figure that out. Let's just wait another 300 years. Will it happen? Will it happen again? Like, there's no way. They happen somewhat constantly every couple of years.
Starting point is 00:54:43 They're either totality, annular, there's all these different types of eclipses they're somewhat trackable there are cultures back in the day that knew about them and their cultures back in the day that didn't that could track them and predict them and i don't believe i think that they had the glasses they probably i think they had the glasses or something or my suspicion was an incredibly cloudy day might block the sun and that also that like you know how we're like, oh my God, we won't be able to see it because of clouds.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah. I actually think that might help you see it. It was such a beautiful day. It was so profound that if you didn't have those sunglasses, you didn't notice any difference. Did you look at it? Did you guys Trump it? Also, apologies for making fun of Trump.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Of course you're going to do that. Yeah. Remember when Trump looked at the solar eclipse without the glasses and everybody was, oh, we're a fucking idiot. But I think he went out without glasses. No, he took them off, looked at it, and then put it back on. I did that like 10 fucking times. I did not. You'll be blocked.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I was like, he's not the first president to do it. John Quincy Adams partially blinded himself staring at a- That's why I didn't do it. Yeah. Staring at a solar eclipse. Your eyes are bad enough. Why'd you just try to make them work? My shit was fucked up. I didn't do it. Yeah. Staring at a solar eclipse. Your eyes are bad enough. Why'd you just try to make them work? No, my shit was fucked up.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I ain't gonna lie. Today, I even feel it. I don't feel good. Yeah, this shit kind of goes hard, bro. Yeah, it's a fire picture. Look at Baron. You see the photo of the Border Patrol? He's got...
Starting point is 00:55:58 There's a Border Patrol guy on the south border, and he's got... They're in the path of fatality. So he's got three illegal immigrants handcuffed to each other. And he's put solar eclipsed glasses on them. So they can all see? So they all can see as they're walking back to like the truck. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yo, look up, fuckers. Wow, that's sick. Yo, look at this fool. My man at the end has none, though. He's got the squints. He's got safety squints. He can just sort of. Yeah, that is fucked up. No one of them doesn't get it. Well, I think He's still looking. He's got the squints. He's got safety squints. He can just sort of... Yeah, that is fucked up.
Starting point is 00:56:27 No one of them doesn't get it. Well, I think he passed him around. Also, these Mexicans look wildly Indian. Yobby Sneak is not. Even my man's shirt. The stink coming from everywhere, bro. Yeah, no. Yeah, I've heard this. But even blue shirt, that's the most Indian outfit possible.
Starting point is 00:56:40 It is. Yeah, that guy's going to fuck you on a tire change or some shit. Oh, what? What? I was trying to think of an Indian scam I don't think they do tires though can I be honest I'm relieved that bum it was like an Indian scam
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Starting point is 01:00:36 That's my favorite flavor, hands down. Now let's get back to the show. Where are we in the conspiracy? What else do we have left? Because I feel like there's one more component. Didn't finish reading the article. Scythe! Scythe!
Starting point is 01:00:48 Scythe! No, I don't think... Basically, everyone's just like, okay, if they rebuild it, then it's going to be a lot of violence. And then if they can actually rebuild it,
Starting point is 01:00:56 then there's going to be an antichrist that's going to come. There's already a lot of violence. I know. Like, specifically... Can I ask you something? You haven't seen nothing yet. The rivers will run red with blood.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Whoa, whoa. Yeah, go ahead. Now, here's something very important. If you're Mosenstein, if you're a big old Muzi, and you believe in your God, you should be like, yo, let them build it. Y'all are wrong. We wouldn't be here if you were right,
Starting point is 01:01:22 but y'all are clearly wrong. That's why we're here. Build whatever you need to build. Don't build it if you were right, but y'all are clearly wrong. That's why we're here. Build whatever you need to build. Don't build it on the Temple Mount, but take your heifers, do whatever the fuck you want. But they need to build it on the Temple Mount. Now you can't disrespect.
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's violation. That's my point. You can't violate. You can't violate. That's just now putting that together. If I'm them, if I, oh, oh, oh,
Starting point is 01:01:40 I got it. This is the whole shit. I got it. I got it. If I'm, if I'm the Muslims, I go, we'll build it for you. Oh. I go, we'll build it for you.
Starting point is 01:01:54 If they don't come, it's ours. All of it. Put your money where your mouth is. Or put your belief where your mouth is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see how much y'all really believe. If you really believe this is all it's going to take for your Messiah to come down, we'll build it for you on the Temple Mount, sacrifice the heifers, mix up the ashes,
Starting point is 01:02:09 do whatever the fuck you want. If it doesn't work, then we create the new borders. Yeah, that's kind of fire. And then you're going to see a lot of, what is it, shakiness in faith. Well, that's just them praying. I think it will be. That would be fire, though.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Right? Let's see who believes. Fast to move. We're building. But yeah, I think it will be, that would be fire. Right? That would be fire. Let's see who believes. Fast to move. We're building a dude fight. I'll host that debate. I would love to host that debate. Oh my God,
Starting point is 01:02:32 just to be right there in the middle to find out Christ is king. Just let them, let the other two, let the other two sides fight and then find out the J-Man coming back.
Starting point is 01:02:43 It's Undertaker at WrestleMania. Do you think it's going to be The Rock? Do you think it's going to be whoever the fuck he is? He's the original Undertaker, dude. Yo! Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yo! I mean, how fire would that be? Do you think he would recognize? If Price came back and chokeslammed a Jew? He would never do that. Turn the other cheek. He would turn do that. Turn the other cheek. He would turn the other cheek. Okay, that's way less fun.
Starting point is 01:03:08 We don't know what he would do to the Muzzies, though, because they're from the future. From the top rope. Like, that's what it'd be. He might... I'm in. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Jesus as a wrestler would actually be so fired that fit flapping in the wings as he's going from rope to rope. You'd look like Roman Reigns. It'd be sick. I mean, we... Anyway, let's see what this happens. to rope. You look like Roman Reigns. It'd be sick. I mean, anyway, let's see what this happens. We got some interesting things
Starting point is 01:03:27 going down. Yeah. A faith off is fire. Yeah. I like a faith off. Yeah, we are. I mean, that's a great... So, are we done in 40 days? If you keep on living the way you're living? Okay. So, shouldn't that be a test to it? Choose up, Al. Choose up. No, but I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:03:43 in 40 days if nothing happens, then... Nah, no, no, no, no. If nothing happens, then you move the goalposts. Yeah, that's how it's done, I think. You know how many times Christians have thought the world was ending? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And just with some other thing. Oh, when? Yeah, I know. All the time. All the time. When? All the time. When?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Like, literally, 2000? Supposed to end? No, Christian was worried about that. That was fucking lesbians and stuff. Yeah. That was like Silicon Valley. Yeah. Silicon Valley. Huh?
Starting point is 01:04:08 What about the Branch Davidians? Weren't they Christian? No. Yeah, they were. Yep. The world's going to end all goddamn time. Waco's very Christian. Let me tell you something about Waco.
Starting point is 01:04:17 That shit is wild Christian. No, no, no. You go to Waco, you're going to be less Christian. I went to Waco. Where? I went to Waco. I surfed there. There's a wave pool.
Starting point is 01:04:26 You walked on water in Waco? Literally. That's what Christian kids do. The Christ is king, bro. Did you go around Waco and hang out with the vibe? Yes, I went to a taco shop after. It was delicious. It was amazing. Had a great conversation.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I had a conversation with a surfer. There were some Mexicans running the taco shop. Was that where the cult was? Yeah, that's what he's Catholic. Is that where the cult was? Yes. Yeah, that's what he's done. Yeah. Welcome to the conversation we've been having
Starting point is 01:04:48 for three minutes. Thank you, Al. Thanks for joining us, Al. Yo, why don't they just share the same blend? Why are they beefing overnight? Like, that's just stupid.
Starting point is 01:04:58 I don't know what you're saying. We edited that part out. Oh, fuck. Yes. Geez. Now, oh, what was the conversation? we edited that part out oh fuck yes now oh what was the conversation
Starting point is 01:05:08 when have when have Christians thought the world was gonna end they there's every five years some Christian guy's like hey the world is ending
Starting point is 01:05:14 we can't do this with the some Christian guy there's only two Christians that count who the Catholics let's go 18
Starting point is 01:05:24 the Orthodox it's like the NFC and the AFC Catholics are not the best I didn't say that I just said Two Christians that count. Who? The Catholics. Let's go 18. The Orthodox. It's like the NFC and the AFC. Catholics are not the best. I didn't say that. I just said the Catholics and the Orthodox. And whatever groups in America support me are the ones that they count. And whatever ones are against me, it's not real Christian.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Have the Catholics predicted end times yet? Yes. I don't, honestly. The Pope is sucking on feet. Bitch feet at that. He got bitch feet in his mouth. Yeah, that seems like a buzzer beater
Starting point is 01:05:49 a little bit. That seems like a buzzer beater. He knows it's over. He's like, I gotta get these toes sucked before I'm out of here. Catholic answer,
Starting point is 01:05:55 yes, we are in the end times a year and a half ago. Yeah, we are in the end times. What does that mean even? We've been in the end times. Yeah. That's the beauty of being vague.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You know what I mean? Exactly. Yes, exactly like you said. You've been in that in time. Yeah. That's the beauty of being vague. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yes, exactly like you said. You just move the goalposts. Ah, it's coming. That's it. We're here. We're close.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Close can be a thousand years. Yes. All are welcome to sing in the choir of God, okay? So when your time comes, you just let me know. Facts. Okay, can we talk about some real fucking issues that we don't care about? Yeah. I want to have real issues that we don't care about conversation.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Mark, can you spit off some real issues that we don't care about? I mean, does someone want to fucking take one off? Yes. Ready? I want to talk about Russell Simmons' daughter dating an older man. I just, yeah. I'm sick and tired of older men being shamed for achieving their goal in life. Do you think that guy
Starting point is 01:06:47 made millions upon millions of dollars to date a woman his age? No, not at all. Are people judging the guy? Those guys are idiots. If you're judging the guy, that's it. Yeah, you should judge the girl.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the one making the bad decisions. No, they're judging the guy. They're judging her dad. Oh, well, it's her dad. There's many reasons guy. They're judging her dad. Oh, well, it's her dad. There's many reasons. Are we finally judging her dad? Did he have to flee the country?
Starting point is 01:07:11 He's in Bali because he's a... He's actually... Actively avoiding judges in America. If you want to talk about judgment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should be judged. Yes. He should be judged. The idea that she would do anything different.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Her mom was 21 and he was like 44. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should be judged. Yes. He should be judged. The idea that she would do anything different. Yeah. Her mom was 21 and he was like 44. When they got married, I think that their mom was like 15 or something like that when they started dating. Or 17 when they started. Something insane. Allegedly. These are all legends. But also that picture is not the most flattering. You got a side boob popping.
Starting point is 01:07:39 This is not good. This is not great. She got her mom's body. No, her mom was stacked. Oh, she was? Yeah, her mom was stacked. But she got her dad's body. great she got her mom's body nah her mom was stacked oh she was yeah her mom was stacked but she got her dad's body she might got her dad's body
Starting point is 01:07:49 like a surfboard yo Jesus Christ we're not shaming young women we're not shaming young women this is a young impressionable woman Al and look how handsome
Starting point is 01:07:58 he is in that shot right there and he looks so handsome when he's got the tuxedo they really took the worst possible picture that must be one of the worst things about being famous
Starting point is 01:08:06 is going to the beach and having people take pictures of you shirtless. Yeah. It's horrible. For real. It's disgusting what we do to multi-millionaires
Starting point is 01:08:16 when they say parts. Why can't they have some privacy on their island that they stole? Can't they bang children in peace? Yeah. The one island that there was no indigenous people that they built up invested a lot of infrastructure and money in so they can have a paradise in the caribbean yeah why why why on earth can they not just enjoy their time there if i was this guy
Starting point is 01:08:37 i'd be like criticize me for that shit but just like oh my shirt's off and i just ate and i'm leaning over and i'm picking up something and i look stupid doing it he doesn't care he really doesn't care that guy like he's at this she's 18 how old is she 21 she's 21 years old she's getting cracked by this guy who's fucking 60 whatever it is what it is 65 yeah she but listen this this is the life this is the life she's chosen here's a question isn't she rich like what is the upside for her is he that much more rich than her family is because russell simmons i mean he was predatory in business i assume made a lot of money yeah but i don't think i don't think rich women oh no you're right the uncle rush card was fucking let's help the community fucking savage uh. I don't think that rich women still want to pay for things.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I just feel like she could find a less rich guy that's 40 and still be fine. You know what I mean? What if he's got an awesome personality? Don't laugh. He's probably charming. What if he's so funny and charming? He's like the Joe Secchi's guy.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Come on, dude. He's so funny. What if he's got an awesome personality? Who gives a fuck? You think he's like the joseki's guy come on this is so funny he's got an awesome who gives a fun you think he's a funny grandpa 65 they might have fun grandpas have awesome personality they go see movies she chooses popcorn giving her a war there's a couple of weeks yeah crazy who knows bro but i just yeah i mean here's what i felt like she doesn't have the parental guidance for anybody because her her mom's in to fucking
Starting point is 01:10:06 flee the country yep her mom that's a mom her mom did the same thing did the same thing so it's like who's gonna be like
Starting point is 01:10:12 hey don't do this yeah yeah it seems like the right thing to do to be honest she could be with a guy that's like her father and it would be way worse
Starting point is 01:10:20 so much worse so I feel like yeah this guy wasn't accused of raping a lot of women yeah exactly this is an upgrade exactly like the apple does fall far from the tree thank god yeah So much worse. Yeah, this guy wasn't accused of raping a lot of women. Yeah, exactly. This is an upgrade. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Like, the apple does fall far from the tree. Thank God. Yeah. How do we know that she isn't raping him? And she hasn't gotten that from her father. Whoa. Allegedly. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:10:39 How do we not know that her father's rap genes have been passed down to her? And then she's out here raping millionaires in St. Barts. Oh, my God. This poor guy's a prisoner. She's got him shackled down somewhere just raping him all night. This guy started Serafina, some of the greatest thin crust pizza New York has ever seen. He started Serafina? Serafina. Yo, I love this guy.
Starting point is 01:10:55 I know you love Serafina. Hey, yo, jump. It's horrible Italian food. You would love it. Jump. I love this guy. And now he's out there in his mansion in St. Barts getting raped up every single day driving a Suzuki Jiminy to breakfast.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Guy can't even drive a Suzuki Jiminy to breakfast without getting ripped by Russell Simmons' daughter allegedly. Oh, man. This poor girl. She's being punished. She's a great guy, dude. Reverse Epstein. She's a great guy. She keeps on banging these old dudes.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah. What did he think was going to happen? He brought this girl to his home thinking she was going to clean it. Turns out, she's with him. What an insane turn of events. Fuck. Thinking she was going to clean it. He didn't think that he was hiring her
Starting point is 01:11:36 to, for example, a sexual consultant of some sort. Oh, my God. This is just... I didn't know it started with Serafina. Yo, shouts. They used to cater for, what's that comedy club that used to be good?
Starting point is 01:11:47 Stand Up New York. Ah, yes. R.I.P. Stand Up New York. I never actually ate it, but I love it. R.I.P. What a handsome guy. Come on, stop it. From Milan.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Dude, you know what? This is a great relationship. What if she's just having a fun little time with the older man? And what if the older man is having a fun little time, too? Why don't we look at it like that? I approve of this relationship. She's 21 years old. She is an adult.
Starting point is 01:12:06 She can go to war, right? That's true. She can star in OnlyFans. Yeah. She can go to an island and have sex with a millionaire. And that's okay. Yeah. We have to accept this.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Now, we can have empathy for the millionaire and having to watch her make TikToks all day. We can have empathy for that, right? You flew out this 21-year-old piece of vagina and she's just driving you fucking insane all day for a week straight. He's paying for it right now. He's paying for it right now. He's like, never again. All the blogs are covering him
Starting point is 01:12:39 because she wants to go online. Get ready with me while I suck this 65-year-old's dick. So this is, I think we have to have more empathy for the men in these situations. ready with me while I suck this 65-year-old's dick. So this is, I think we have to have more empathy for the men in these situations. Yeah. 100%. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I agree with that. I agree with that. Yeah. Okay, that was a good one. Okay, what else do we got, guys? You guys want to talk WWE? Yeah, we can talk WWE. I got filled in.
Starting point is 01:12:58 So I was seeing the WrestleMania tweets. Were y'all seeing it all day Sunday? I know what's going on. My brother loves wrestling. I called him. I got like a 30 minute breakdown. Yeah. And these motherfuckers are some of the greatest storytellers in the history,
Starting point is 01:13:11 at least in my lifetime. I don't know if I like the way they build up. So this guy named Roman Reigns, he is actually the Rock's cousin. It's like a wrestling family, like a lineage. WWE for years was trying to build this guy up as like a good guy. I think I'm like John Cena and fans didn't really like him.
Starting point is 01:13:26 There's also this interesting thing with wrestling fans where WWE kind of acknowledges it's fake now, and the fans kind of analyze it like we analyze Game of Thrones, like the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're critical of him. They don't really like him. COVID happens, and then he, over COVID, when they're not wrestling, develops. He's like, I'm going to develop this bad guy character that's like really nuanced goes to Vince McMahon
Starting point is 01:13:47 and is like either you let me turn heel or I quit cause this shit is not working oh wow so he develops this whole like he's like a mafia boss or something
Starting point is 01:13:54 and like all of his family that's wrestlers he still has three cousins wrestling calls it the bloodline right and then people start fucking loving him they're like yo
Starting point is 01:14:02 this guy this character is great he becomes champion it's undefeated for four years. Or he holds the belt for four years almost. And then The Rock comes back, and there's this other guy, Corey Rhodes, that has his own backstory that I don't think is as worth getting into. But fans really want him to get the belt. Last year, they think he's going to get it at WrestleMania.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He loses. Everybody's livid. And WWE's like, just trust us. We got this. They build it up for another year. Almost four years, they're building, just trust us. We got this. They build it up for another year. Almost four years they're building up
Starting point is 01:14:27 this fucking storyline. Some Avengers shit. Yeah, just, and then there's, I'm sure it's building, other things are happening, but like adding more pieces, developing the nuance.
Starting point is 01:14:35 The Rock comes back and he is initially gonna fight this guy, Roman Reigns, for the title. Because he's the biggest, that's the biggest views. But then the fans are
Starting point is 01:14:45 so upset the rock is like you know what fuck it let these two guys fight cory rhodes i think his name cody and cody and roman reigns and i'm gonna turn heel which is crazy my brother put this in perspective think about being a borderline billionaire movie star yeah and be like nah i'm gonna be hated yeah like the girl like apparently there's this little girl crying on video, like, I can't believe The Rock is a bad person. Why is he doing this? Because they don't know. Oh, don't talk about Meek like that.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Get out, Rock. Meek, you're making it so hard, bro. You're making it so hard for us to defend you. We were all Meek in that moment, bro. We wanted to get out. But then they, I watched the, there's like a... Get out, Rocky! Come on, Rock, get out. So, they, I watched the, there's like a, get up, Rocky! Come on, Rocky!
Starting point is 01:15:27 So, Mark, there's a seven minute clip. I watched five minutes, I saw a five minute clip of like, they bring out John Cena, they bring out The Rock, The Undertaker makes an appearance
Starting point is 01:15:36 and the way they fucking deliver with every one of these massive cameos, it's like perfect. You're watching it. I don't even, I don't know any of this wrestling shit I'm watching this when The Undertaker
Starting point is 01:15:46 comes on I'm like I'm so hyped do you want to see the highlights yeah I don't know what we can play in the full
Starting point is 01:15:52 but just to get the vibe so they bring out like every Hall of Fame potential goat wrestler they bring them back if they can for this and then they have
Starting point is 01:16:00 this guy Cody Rhodes win and again gears in the making and then this guy Roman Reigns they love him so much as the girl is announcing the new champion have this guy cody rhodes win and again gears in the making and then this guy roman reigns they love him so much as the girl is announcing the new champion like roman's losing the title and they kind of think this is the beginning of him retiring she's literally crying as she's making the announcement like everybody's so invested in the story with they all acknowledge
Starting point is 01:16:19 it's fake basically everybody's aware it's fake. And it's just like character development, storytelling. It's fucking unbelievable. My respect for wrestling skyrocketed after just watching these five minutes and my brother filling me in. Like Roman Reigns is a superstar because he was like, hey, here's how I'm going to develop a character that's going to have nuance to it. And apparently he's like very different than just like the over the top heels that we grew up watching. It's like a lot of like manipulates people. And heels that we grew up watching right it's like a lot of he like manipulates people and it's like almost like watching
Starting point is 01:16:47 it's almost like cinematic and then there are obviously freak athletes and then he also said Logan Paul is like amazing as a wrestler and fans want to hate him but even the people are like
Starting point is 01:16:58 yeah he still sucks as a person but he's fucking good at this yeah Speed came out he got more KO'd yeah they just like went so fucking hard at this yeah Speed came out he got more KO'd yeah they just like went so fucking hard for this thing
Starting point is 01:17:07 where was it Philly over two nights too now it's over two nights when we were kids it's one night so over two nights so they don't just build
Starting point is 01:17:14 for years with Story they build to the second night they have one night shit is gonna happen of course but that's just building more hype
Starting point is 01:17:21 if you're a real wrestling fan you're going to both you're going to both there's no way they fucking deliver like to build the hype and then deliver is one of the hardest things but that's just building more hype. If you're a real wrestling fan, you're going to both. You're going to both. There's no way that you'll never win. Like to build the hype and then deliver is one of the hardest things.
Starting point is 01:17:29 And they just apparently nailed it. And they've transitioned pretty quickly into not having Vince McMahon involved at all. Well, apparently the Triple H took over. You remember Hunter? Apparently he took it to new heights. Him and Roman Reigns together
Starting point is 01:17:43 like really took it to and by every metric. Really? I mean, yeah, we don't just necessarily watch as much because there's so many, but like online impressions, I think pay-per-views for this
Starting point is 01:17:51 were the highest ever. Like by every metric, it's never been more popular. Wow. Crazy. Did you watch it growing up as a kid? I watched it for like two, three years. Probably we all watched the same time.
Starting point is 01:18:00 The Rockies were crazy. The Rock. The Rock was, you would be like, hey man, what do you want to eat for dinner? And then the guy would start answering. the sun the rock was you would be like hey man uh what do you want to eat for dinner and then the guy would start answering it doesn't matter what all we did was live as the rock it was an unbelievable time yeah it was incredible and then the suck it shit yeah it was fantastic i went to one when i was a kid really i was really young and uh it was out in
Starting point is 01:18:20 new jersey it was cool i got to see The Ultimate Warrior. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Ultimate Warrior and then Undertaker I think they fought or something like that. But yeah, it was really cool. I mean, completely sold out. It's a massive arena. You're just watching wrestling. And this was back in the day. I'm sure it's the same now. But the first few matches,
Starting point is 01:18:39 you don't really know the guys. And they're just doing interesting stuff, physical stuff, but the storylines aren't that, like, pervasive. But the headline matches were always really interesting. And, like, that music hits and just... Different. It goes crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah, it just goes crazy. They've really got this now. What do you mean that they say that it's fake now? So, apparently, my brother told me, like, when they were saying there were sports, there's, like, all these regulations you gotta go through. You gotta go through commissions. There's taxes you gotta pay. And Vince publicly was like all these regulations you got to go through. You got to go through commissions. You got to, there's taxes you got to pay.
Starting point is 01:19:07 And Vince publicly was like, you know what? It's fake. This is entertainment. And then you don't have to go through nearly as many hurdles. We like it more knowing that it's fake. Yeah. And I think it's, I think he was like, everybody knows anyway.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Now my brother said he went to one of these things and he was sitting up top and he was like, kind of shocked how many people still believed it's real. But online and the online community of wrestling is going to be huge but believing it's believing it's real is like believing uh avengers no actually i would i would say believing reality tv is is more plausible believing it's real is like believing avengers and that like we know that this is a movie but we are submitting ourselves to the movie so when someone we care about dies we get emotional when something really awesome happens we get excited
Starting point is 01:19:49 yeah and we know it's all fake we know it's all orchestrated but it doesn't matter we are submitting ourselves to the story and that's the power of story to what you were saying is they've really it seems like they've really gotten into the story of these characters and now i'm just believing the characters and the wrestling is an excuse to tell the story. Whereas when... Non-gay soap opera. If you're a guy, you don't feel embarrassed about watching the soap opera.
Starting point is 01:20:14 And then when we were down in Mexico, we were watching that Lucha Libre. To me, and again, there might be stories that are built in for generations and yeah, I don't know. But for me, it seemed like it was much more about the acrobatics yeah the sport yes where it was just like the choreography was insane there's three people and there's like three on three matches the whole time and it was really awesome what
Starting point is 01:20:36 they were doing but i don't even know if they talked yeah but i i don't remember if they were talking at all yeah but it was really awesome. The choreography was awesome, but a little bit different than this, where it's like all that cheering and insane explosions of the reactions came from one chokeslam. Yeah. It's just tension.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Yeah. Yeah. That's so cool. Okay, what else we got, my boys? I wonder how much Rock gets for coming back. Apparently, I think he's involved. He's like a full board member or something he's like up there with the company that acquired wwe tko or something they're called i could be wrong about that but he so that's yeah and then it was it was kind of cool to just be like you know what i'm getting pushback on
Starting point is 01:21:18 being the main event even though i'm gonna get the most so let's just have some fun i'm gonna turn heel and apparently he's really good as a heel like wrestling fans who are in the story are like he's fucking great as this and better than he is as dwayne johnson like he's great at this apparently cussing like to the point that they're having to edit him a bunch and it's just like what's going on here but he's just in it and they love that well he also played a villain or he played black adam it was like the first villain he did ah yeah so it might be like he started as a heel he started heel
Starting point is 01:21:47 he started heel but he was so funny that people just loved him they had to build into the storyline that he was because I remember
Starting point is 01:21:54 he was supposed to be a heel but he gets such a big pop that I was like 14 I'm watching I'm like they can't keep I remember being like
Starting point is 01:22:01 they can't keep him as a bad guy right like he's we love him yeah he's so funny. That's the power of funny. He just won off of humor.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome. That was a stone cold. What else we got, boys? I mean, we can talk about the squatter thing. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 What's up with the squatter? The squatter thing is interesting, dude. The squatter thing is very interesting. Have you heard about this? Yeah. No, I've had to deal with it.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Oh, okay. So, like, it just is, like, a huge thing. I was even looking it up to see like, what is going on? Like, it's just like super popular, especially as of last month, like it's being covered everywhere. And like the headlines are crazy. Like there's a bunch of headlines where it's like, man prevents family from retiring and dream home with Down syndrome son, like squatter prevents a family from retiring their dream home like man wins a dead woman's home uh and like there's just like insane stories of like this beverly hills mansion across the street from lebron james that's like overrun with like
Starting point is 01:22:55 squatters that are using it's like party it's so it's a four million dollar property wow so just so we can you know kind of explain and like uh you know set the tone of this conversation everybody should know what squatting is if you don't there are i guess some sort of protections for this shit goes deep yeah i did not realize yeah like complicated and nuanced this is so a squatter is somebody that goes and lives in a home that's not theirs yeah that's how it's understood that's what's understood now it appears that there are some protections for people that do this yes okay break it down so there's a bunch of things so this one is just funny i just bring this up because it's like the most crazy example this is literally in the middle of beverly hills if you look at like the map of people around
Starting point is 01:23:36 him it's like lebron james like john legend is right there yeah and the guy's hilarious he's like this italian dude one all-night bash drew 645 revelers and didn't end until 9 a.m. Was this turned into a nightclub, essentially? Better than that. It's a mansion. You know, I mean, it was classier than that, I would say. But this was basically a party house, you know? At some point, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I mean, it's so funny. This is a nightclub. He's like, it's not a nightclub i'm not a fucking animal and then they ask the guy they're like so are you gonna stay here for a while he's like no i might move on to something nicer maybe you get a different mansion or something like that this dude's hilarious but there's just a bunch of these happening all over the country that people are talking about so how does it happen it goes all the way back to the medieval ages medieval times feudal times yeah yeah literally like i didn't realize this shit went so far back it goes
Starting point is 01:24:24 back even farther than that. Like, there's, like, rules in, like, Roman law about, like, how to deal with, like, land disputes. Okay. So, basically, it's this thing called adverse possession. Okay. So, hypothetically, we're two, like, nobles back in medieval England, right? We have, like, a bunch of land that's near each other. And we're talking, like, hundreds of acres that's, like, just sort of, like, given to you from, like, you inherited it, whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Yeah. And, like, in between your land, there's there's like some land that no one's using it's just like not being you can't go all the way over there it's like hundreds of acres away it's like and no one's looking at it no one's seeing it yeah so what they kind of had was like common grounds where like if some dude just kind of came by and like set up a house there he could just kind of like use the land and And if you never said anything about it, over a certain period of time, it would just become his. And kind of the reason this would happen is like, you basically have a guy that lives there. He builds up a house. He has a bunch of kids. His kids have kids. Also, now he's a community of like a hundred people in a tiny little village, hundreds of miles away from anyone. It prevents the nobles, like great
Starting point is 01:25:23 grandson from pulling up and like, Hey, this this is actually mine it basically gives them the right to say hey we've been here for 50 years i don't know anything about you my great great grandfather was on this land this land is ours and it gives them the protection to say like if you're here and no one says shit about it for a certain period of time you can have it this is yeah and it sounds ridiculous but think about it there is a time where literally all the land was owned by how many nobles are there you have the kingdom and then you have the nobles so let's just call it 50 people maybe it's less and they just parceled up all the land they're not even using it they're not even looking at it. So it does kind of make sense in a way to create some democratization of the land that you let other people have the right to squash. And it basically gives an incentive to use it or lose it, basically. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:16 So use the land, make something out of it. And if you're not really doing anything about it and you don't say anything, then someone else that's using it, the government will be like, yeah, we like this community. So was this written into law by the kingdom why would the kingdom because the kingdom was like i could just fucking take all this land it was basically understood as british common law yeah and like the british like the british royal at the time i think it was like henry the first or some shit was basically like we're gonna permit this because like these peasants need some place to go okay yeah but if they did want to take your land they still would probably yeah but i like this idea like to a certain extent, use it or lose it.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Let's say you have hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands of acres. We're talking about huge swaths of land. A state. You're not seeing other people. It's an entire state. You're not even seeing somebody. You don't even know that they're on your land. Do you just get to keep that because you guys declared it years ago?
Starting point is 01:27:04 You just happen to be a noble person. And you're a great, great grandfather. You've been here five generations. And so then it kind of extends even to modern America, where it's like, let's say you have two ranchers, right? And they have two ranches. Again, we're talking hundreds, thousands of acres right next to each other. And you build a fence, and it kind of is hard to demarcate
Starting point is 01:27:20 exactly where one land starts and one land ends. Let's say it's over 100 feet, and it stays like that for you know 50 years and all of a sudden you look at the title and you're like wait a second our land is 50 feet over that way that's like you know 30 acres that's ours you can't then go and be like hey give it to us because basically you've said like this fence is here enough time has passed you haven't said anything about it so tough shit this is how brooklyn and queens got separated there's no reason why they should be separated it's literally one island it's just a dumb line that goes like crazy down certain streets in brooklyn and queens but it was the dutch and the english couldn't settle
Starting point is 01:27:55 there's two people basically the dutch of bushwick and the english of ridgewood or what a vice versa they had a big argument and they literally could not find the middle ground and then they found a rock called Arbitration Rock because the government was finally like, we gotta start putting lines down
Starting point is 01:28:09 and keeping these people away from each other and they made a rock the middle point of Brooklyn and Queens. Weird. Wow. And so for certain
Starting point is 01:28:17 people... That rock's still there? Yep. Oh, fire. Now that is frustrating that ranch shit just because someone put the fucking fence wrong
Starting point is 01:28:22 to keep the land. But you gotta say something about it. You gotta be like, like wait a second this fence is actually wrong and if it's within like most places have like 20 or 30 year windows but aren't we incentivizing people to put the fence wrong yeah this happens in in common like in florida all the time people put their fence on that side of someone's property line and if they can hold it for 20 years they get another two feet but that's also i don't love this just because we're incentivizing people to take advantage of their neighbor but you could then just be like
Starting point is 01:28:50 hey you took my shit and then take it to a civil court and then the court be like yeah they have to move it and then they're fined or sure but now i now the burden is on me to hire a lawyer to spend money because this person did something that was it's a net loss either way unethical i don't gain two feet on their side if they do it. If there was a punishment like, hey, if you do this and you're wrong, you lose two feet. They have to pay to pull the fence up and shit. But basically, that's the law. They have to pay to put it there.
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Starting point is 01:31:48 we're not going to go back and forth and waste resources to try to figure this out. It just is. But let's say, for example, again, I'm just trying to, to me, the issue is not the guy who makes the mistake. The issue is that now the system has incentivized, let's say we own this big ranch land, right? You and I both were neighbors, and you just go, hey, Schultz, I want to set up just like a fence because I have some sheep that I want to keep in. I don't want them going onto your land.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I know that you protect your land. You keep it a certain way. I just want to do it. And I go, oh, that's a great idea, Mark. You propose the plan. I agree with the proposed plan. Then you go put in the fence, and then you have this new plan
Starting point is 01:32:22 where you're taking another 30 acres from me. I'm agreeing to your proposed plan, but I'm not walking in there and checking every single stump. I don't know. You're so incentivized to fuck me by the law, where the law should be punishing people that fuck their neighbors over. I don't know exactly, but I think there are punishments if you lose in civil court. You're fine, and I think you then have to like settle with the person you stole from
Starting point is 01:32:47 yeah you should have to give them something it should that's how I understand if you can prove that someone did it on purpose this should be viewed
Starting point is 01:32:53 as theft yeah and I think it is and I think you and that's grand larceny that's jail depending on the amount of land that was stolen it's really fucked up
Starting point is 01:33:01 anyway go on so there's some periods of time where people actually like squatters post world war 2 in England the whole allondon is bombed you have all these baby boomers coming home and basically you have like a housing crisis and so these british people are then finding like dilapidated like derelict homes that got bombed they're kind of just like
Starting point is 01:33:18 pulling up fixing it turning into like livable communities and people are like wow look at the british people they're not. They're actually like industrious and making the best of their situation. So for a period, they were like praised. And then what about the, what are the people that own those homes that were bombed do?
Starting point is 01:33:34 Well, that's where I fucking just died. So it's like, no one is looking after this. We don't know whose it is. Like there's not like record keeping that's perfect. It's all on paper. They got burned in some like firebombing. What, who's, what is it? Okay. I get, so I'm not even looking at that as a
Starting point is 01:33:52 squatter. I only see a squatter as somebody who is living in a home or area or space that is owned by someone else. That's what actual squatting is. Right. So for it to be considered actual squatting needs five things, sometimes six needs to be hostile. This one's actually interesting. You have to take it without some type of contract or some type of understanding that it's owned by someone else. So you can't have a lease and then overstay it. That's no longer a squatter. That's like a holdover tenant. So it has to be hostile where you don't have some type of written agreement. It has to be actual. You have to be living there and improving the place and living as if you were the owner paying taxes and shit open and notorious you can't be hiding or like being protective you have to just be like walking around doing shit
Starting point is 01:34:32 like how you normally would continuous it has to be the full length of the time you can't just show up like once a year and then some in some places it has to be in good faith meaning that you have to have some type of reasonable reason that you can present in front of a judge that you would get this land or you would get this home. Right. So those are like the five things like Louisiana has an interesting one where it's like, you just need to basically have it for 30 years uninterrupted and you can keep it. Like theirs is like even more loose and it exists because it gives ownership. It basically like, there's a bunch of reasons. It gives a statute of limitations to like like, land squabbling back in the day. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:08 It makes people kind of, like, cure minor defects within, like, a lease. Let's say, like, you sell me a piece of land and you're like, yeah, it's everything including the lake or including the pond. Yeah. And then in the title it gets fucked up and it doesn't include the pond, but I keep the land. Yeah. And if no one says anything about the pond, then the pond is mine after 30 years just because it was originally in the verbal contract there but not in the land yeah and if no one says anything about the pond then the pond is mine after 30 years just because it was originally in the verbal contract there but not in the title got it so like settles up like that minor little thing and then also like it gives that productivity
Starting point is 01:35:35 of land thing use it or lose it so what's happening now is nothing to do with squatting got it so all of these stories that people are looking at are called squatter's rights, but it's not squatter's law. They're basically taking advantage of a system that people did find advantageous for potentially everybody. And now they're just using it in their favor legally. Kind of. Like it's barely even that because it's basically just like tenant rights. Which basically has nothing to do. So whenever people call squatter's rights, it's sort of a misnomer. Right, because squatting seems so much more salacious just a random stranger breaks into your home and just it's a term that makes so much sense yeah we call them squatters
Starting point is 01:36:13 yeah it paints a picture in your head yeah so it makes sense but under the law like i don't think there's any like clear legal definition okay so all these stories are they're they're interesting so it's like the story that people are talking about is like, okay, you go on vacation for three weeks and then someone pulls up in your house and then they can just live there and you can't get them out. And then the government fucks you. That's like what the story is. Some of the stories are even like some woman went out for groceries and then came back
Starting point is 01:36:37 and someone was living in her house and then she couldn't get them out. Yeah. These don't sound real. Yeah. The first, that one is not real. Like you can basically call the police and be like, Hey, there's a breaking and entering. Yeah. The police show up and they're like hey are you the tenant that lives here and the guy's like yes i am and they're like oh can you just show me your id
Starting point is 01:36:49 show me a piece of mail show me a lease show me anything and if they don't have that they'll get arrested immediately it's just breaking and entering so like the law protects that yeah and so basically in new york you have a thing where if you live in a place for over 30 days then that's when they get tenant rights. Even if you are living there illegally? Yes. Like let's say, for example, I went on vacation, somebody moved into my home. I come back after 30 days. I mean, that's crazy short. They get tenant rights. They get tenant rights. And then what is the justification for that? I'm assuming it basically protects people from having like oral agreements. So you go on vacation and you're like, yeah, Mark, you can stay in my place.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Jerk off my shower, whatever you want to do. And then you leave and you can't just come back and be like, this guy's blah, blah, blah. He's in my place. And it's like, dude, you told me I could stay here for six months. Write up a contract. Like, that's an easy solution. But then you tear up the contract. This is back in the day when it's like a piece of paper.
Starting point is 01:37:41 You can just tear it up. You can lose the contract. So this is a law that needs to be changed, basically? Yeah, a lot of people are suggesting that. Yeah. The 30 day tenancy law and then tenant rights would be like you can't turn off the electricity you can't turn off the water you can't change the locks. Back in the day. That's the shit that sucks. Yeah so it's like if you're a landlord you still have to even if this person is squatting or just staying there unlawfully you still have to keep
Starting point is 01:38:03 the electricity on you still have to maintain the place. If you stop doing any of those things, now you're in violation of their rights and they can, one, stay there longer and make a case for not having to pay because- And is the justification for this innocent until proven guilty? In other words, if somebody is there for a certain amount of time time the state assumes that they have a legal reason to be there and until that is disputed in court yes got it okay okay okay whereas if you're the landlord you know if somebody is living there illegally but but based on our justice system they cannot assume that this person is breaking the law and the cops pull up yes the cops pull up and then you have mail that's in your name with the address. And you maybe have like a fake lease or something. And the police are like, we can't take this person out.
Starting point is 01:38:50 We can't evict them. So now this is a civil matter that has to be taken care of. And then until it's taken care of in court, you get to stay there and live there. Got it. Okay. Now I understand how it's taking advantage of our justice system with the assumption of innocence. I understand why those rights exist. And there used to be no tenant laws, and tenants used to get fucked all the time.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Yes. Some guy would be like, oh, I don't like you because— Get the fuck out. Yeah, oh, you're dating a black girl. Yeah. Like, I'm a racist dude. Fuck you. I'm turning your electricity off.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Get the fuck out of my place. Hey, your kids are too loud. They're screaming. They're waking people up. Turn the water up. Get the fuck out. I'm a racist dude. Fuck you. I'm turning your electricity off. Get the fuck out of my place. Hey, your kids are too loud. They're screaming. They're waking people up. Get the fuck out. I'm sorry. Right. So these laws in New York,
Starting point is 01:39:30 I imagine around the country, they had to be created to protect people that were being put under abusive conditions by their landlords. Like unions. Right. Necessary. There were potentially abusive conditions
Starting point is 01:39:41 and you want to protect these people. Yeah. That kind of makes sense. Some cases people even get scammed. So like what this guy with the mansion is kind of alleging is like you go out of town for two months. Let's say you leave for six months. You're going to your fucking other house, whatever, right? Someone comes in.
Starting point is 01:39:57 They change all the locks. They get mail delivered. They're now squatting. And then they find someone to say, hey, I'm going to give you a lease for the place. I'm the owner. Do you want a great deal on a on a apartment oh fuck and so now a family let's say a couple or a single mom and her kid are now getting put into an apartment oh i'm the guy who originally who originally swatted yeah but because they have tenants rights now so now the you come back and you're like yo why the fuck you in my house they're like what it's not your house i'm paying
Starting point is 01:40:24 money steve's house and he gave me the lease and you're like, yo, why the fuck are you in my house? And they're like, it's not your house. I'm paying money. This is Steve's house and he gave me the lease. And you're like, no, it's my house. And then it's like, what are we doing? I've been living here for four months while you were gone. And I have to assume that you're innocent. So we will bring this to the courts and the courts will decide. That person kind of is innocent because they didn't know they were breaking the law. Yeah, I just didn't realize how important the presumption of innocence is in these cases.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Because we're all looking at these people like they are bad people you're living in a place that is not yours you're fucking over this land some people do do that yeah of course i imagine the majority of the most salacious stories that we hear about are in the example of this the stories that you hear on the news like this guy is just broke into this home he's not paying any money refuses to leave and this is this is this person's retirement and now he's forced to go back and get a job at walmart because he can't pay his bills because he's got the squatter that's that story yeah but there are these stories where people are taken advantage of and they have these tense rights okay this is good this is good this is good keep going so then how do you evict someone
Starting point is 01:41:17 after they take over your place there's a bunch of ways it happens like covid kind of exacerbated the issue because then there were all these moratoriums on eviction right airbnb caused a lot lot of problems because someone would get an Airbnb, get it for three days, pay the 500 bucks, and then just not leave. Oh, then just stay there. Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, yeah. You got that. That happened to Alex. And that happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Now, in order for that person to not be evicted, they have to be there for more than 30 days. Yeah. And in your circumstance, they were there for more than 30. Yeah. And then how long did they rent it? I made the mistake. They did Airbnb for a week. And then?
Starting point is 01:41:51 And then they were like, yo, I'll hit you direct and you'll make more money. And then so after we did that, he just paid me for a week. And then he's like, ah, I'm not paying anymore. And I was like, all right, get out. He's like, no, I'm not going anywhere. Was he there for more than 30 days? He was there for six months. No, no.
Starting point is 01:42:07 I mean, before he told you he's not leaving. Yeah, by that time. Yeah, I think it hit a month by that time. So he knew what he was doing. He knew the game. He was playing. He has to get to a month. Once he's there for a month and he's getting mail, he has all these things done.
Starting point is 01:42:20 And he started off super nice, super like, oh, I was like, oh, great tenant. I didn't think that he would try to fuck me over because he was super nice. And the house started off super nice, super like, oh, I was like, oh, great tenant. I didn't think that he would try to fuck me over because he was like super nice. And the house was fucked when he left, right? Yeah. Everything was trash, fucking cigarette butts everywhere. It was disgusting. Wow.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Fucked me up for six months. Wow. It's a bitch. So like in order to evict someone in New York, you have to file a formal eviction notice. Ten day notice on the door. Basically say like, hey, get the fuck out. If they ignore that, then there's a bitch so like in order to evict someone in New York you have to file a formal eviction notice 10 day notice on the door basically say like hey get the fuck out if they ignore that then there's a petition
Starting point is 01:42:50 for special proceedings they have to go to a court yeah look at Al getting PTSD as you're bringing all this in bro it was so bad the squatter has to appear in court
Starting point is 01:42:57 they either appear and then the judge almost always rules not in favor of the squatter like it's very rare for a squatter to get it because like we said you have to have
Starting point is 01:43:04 all of these other things to classify as a squatter like it's very rare for a squatter to get it because like we said you have to have all of these other things to yeah classify as a squatter my shit is getting emails i don't know um but a lot of times they will make up a reason why they need to postpone the date so they just push it further yeah filibuster now you got to take off of work you got to stop your life to make sure you show up because if you don't show up yeah usually it's costing you money and you're paying for utilities and you're paying for gas and so this is so interesting and they're fucking up your whole house yep and they're almost incentivized to fuck up the house because if they fuck it up you might be like yo it's not worth it it's not worth it to what to keep fighting take this back like you fucked it up so bad i'm gonna take it back i'm
Starting point is 01:43:41 gonna pay fifty thousand dollars in repairs yeah i just don't want so there are some people that actually give up the home i guess it's just not worth but you would still have to pay back the mortgage right because that's a loan from the bank it depends like who knows maybe you inherit the house it's worth like fifty thousand you have a ton of money it's like some shitty shack the guy's a drug addict he keeps it trashes it and you're like i'm gonna have to pour a hundred to even get this it's not Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm out. This is a time where you understand why Texas is so pro-gun. Yeah. And they got, like, castle doctrine and shit. You can just, like, pull up and be like, yo, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Get the fuck out. Yeah. It's really interesting, though. So these people are taking advantage of a policy that was made to protect tenants from abusive landlords. Yeah. So we like the policy because there were abusive landlords. They would just kick people out for no reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Policies are good. Now the landlord's got to behave. Now you've got to treat those people in there well. And you should have a good relationship between you and the landlord because you both have a little bit of power in this circumstance. Landlord's a piece of shit. You could withhold pay and now this landlord's fucked and he doesn't want that. And now you're sitting there for six months before you can even get somebody out of the home. And now he's six months out of rent.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Think about that. That's horrible. Okay. Let's be nice to each other and let's make sure that we really pick tenants that we're going to respect and care for. And everything's going to be good. Symbiotic relationship. These people come in,
Starting point is 01:44:56 they go, Ooh, there's really favorable tenant rules and I just need to trick them and let me be here for a month. Got it. Most people don't even know this. Yeah. Got it. And they stay there for six months and then they bounce to another spot, stay there for six months, stay there for six months. them and letting me be here for a month got it most people don't even know this yeah got it and
Starting point is 01:45:05 they stay there for six months and then they bounce to another spot stay there for six months stay there for six months these people are like typically criminals drug addicts mentally ill something yeah that's interesting or they'll get a roommate and live with a roommate and then change the locks on the roommate and be like i got your place no way yeah crazy so this happens all the time so it's like you kind of got to try to fix the tenant rights thing without fucking over tenants. Yeah. And creates, like, how do you quickly find out if someone is fraudulently living there? It's really expediting that process.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Yeah. And the problem is when you live in a city with 8 million people, I imagine those court systems are completely backed up. There's a million different cases they're bringing. They have nothing to do with this. Yeah. Right? Oh my Lord. So they're also taking advantage of how backed up our system is. It's not very efficient. And how do we prove that somebody
Starting point is 01:45:51 should legally live there or not? You can't trust the landlords in a lot of circumstances because they're going to do anything to get people out. And you can't trust the tenants because they're manipulating the system like this. And then some of them are just stuck in the crossfire. It's like, yo, I got a lease from this guy and now I'm in this place.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I mean, that's the craziest scenario. were actually good citizen you're a good person you're you're paying the bills you would have paid the landlord yeah you pay cash to this guy every single month yeah and then he leaves town and you can't get in touch with him and so as the owner of the place you can't do anything to that person like you can't threaten them with violence you can't how that person's innocent that can't. Wow, that person's innocent. That shit was infuriating. Infuriating, I can imagine. But that is our justice system, right?
Starting point is 01:46:31 It's the presumption of innocence. And that's why it even has to go to court. We know this person's breaking the law. You know they're breaking the law. They know they're breaking the law. It doesn't matter. We got it on video. We have everything that we need until the court decides that that is the case,
Starting point is 01:46:43 which, like you said, most of the times it does decide that. Yeah. You can't do anything. Oof, that is the case, which, like you said, most of the times it does decide that, you can't do anything. Oof, that is... It's wild, right? And then why do you think that this is so popular right now? So this is where it gets interesting. So there's a couple things.
Starting point is 01:46:54 These articles that I read you before, Squatter wins the house of a dead woman. Those headlines go crazy. If you search, like, Squatter wins home, that's, like, 20 articles. And it's this one dude in England, which, again, they kind of have, like, different squatters different squatters rights laws that are like actually go back even farther this is an actual squatters right situation so the headline is squatter wins the house of a dead
Starting point is 01:47:13 woman everyone's pissed off basically what happens is there's a guy that sees a decrepit house it's all fucked up it's falling apart he's like a contractor working in the neighborhood and this house is just destroyed he asked the people in the neighborhood he's like what's up with this house and they're like oh it's been this way for like five years it's just like there contractor working in the neighborhood and this house is just destroyed he asked the people in the neighborhood he's like what's up with this house and they're like oh it's been this way for like five years it's just like there's rats in it there's crackheads running in and out of it like it's fucked he was like oh okay and so he kind of asked around he's trying to see who owns it he can't get in touch with anyone this is 97 so he just starts fixing it and he just starts building up the house and he does it over the course of like three four years
Starting point is 01:47:43 everyone's like wow this is amazing everyone in the neighborhood really likes it love it now you don't have this decrepit crack house in your neighborhood that's pulling the property value down literally so then he starts building up the house doesn't hear anything from anyone tries to get in touch can't get in touch with the owner like no one knows who is actually owning it calls the bank the bank foreclosed that he was actually like managing with he basically keeps it and then in 2012 the owner comes back and he's like, yo, what happened to the house? And the guy's like, oh, now the guy that originally owned it is like 80. Basically what happened was he was living there with his mom. His mom died in
Starting point is 01:48:14 like 1990. He ends up moving and going somewhere that leaves the house to ruin. This guy finds it, fixes it up, moves his family in there, lives in it, becomes a member of the community. And then this dude comes back and he's like, yo, give me my house back. And the guy's like, I've been living here, bro. You haven't been here 15 years. Didn't the bank foreclose? It's not his house anymore. So technically he owned it outright, but the bank that gave him the original loan was no longer there.
Starting point is 01:48:37 So he couldn't get in touch with whoever the actual owner was. So it's his house, though. So according to the law in England at the time, I think it was like 10 years. So because he had lived in there for 10 years, it was his. And everyone in the community was like... I mean, he's a definitional squatter, whereas these people are not. These are scammers. Yeah, these people are trespassers and...
Starting point is 01:48:54 I mean, I like that this guy allegedly did the due diligence to find the dude. Who knows if he actually did? He might have just taken advantage of, you know, an opportunistic situation. Yeah, but you're still building up a thing in the community. It's good. I don't care. If it's mine i could let now i think the community and i think in america the community would have standards for your home for example like you have to cut your lawn a certain that was it the hoa association like yeah so like hoas are big hey you have to make
Starting point is 01:49:19 sure the outside is more or less clean the lawn is cut you have a responsibility to your community you can't let it become decrepit and if it does, I think the HOA can actually kick you out of the community. The city can too. Oh, sorry. There's like city ordinances.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Go, go, go. The most infuriating part was when that guy was squatting in my place. It was wintertime. I still had to go over there and shovel. No way.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Why did you have to shovel? Because the HOA, I would get tickets. I would get tickets. Oh my God. Bro, I was so tight. Oh no. He's inside drinking coffee while you're shoveling the age of it. I would get tickets. I would get tickets. Oh my God. Bro, I was so tight. Oh no. He's inside drinking coffee
Starting point is 01:49:48 while you're shoveling the fucking front lawn. I would have lost it. No way. Wow. You got too much patience. That's crazy. No, I got him out.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. But yeah, so there's a circumstance. If you bought some shit or you inherited whatever it is, that is yours, bro. Just because somebody fixed it up
Starting point is 01:50:03 don't mean he gets to keep it. No, that's a loss. Yeah, but then I don't know about all that fixed it up don't mean he gets to keep it. That's losses. Yeah, but then if you let it go and now it's ruining the neighborhood, it's like you should be penalized. That's what I feel. No, no, you should be responsible and the neighborhood should be able to contact you
Starting point is 01:50:17 and tell you and give you warnings and say, hey, if you're not going to do this, then we are going to force you to sell the home or whatever it is. The bank will hold the money in escrow until you're ready ready to claim it you can't just let this house become dilapidated but the idea that somebody can just fix your shit up without you even knowing and he allegedly reached out to you which i don't know if i buy that years past 10 yeah i think after a certain period i actually like that 10 years you haven't looked at it you don't value it yeah
Starting point is 01:50:44 regardless if you value it or not, it's yours. Like, somebody in your family worked hard to get it. You're fucking up the neighborhood. Yeah, you're not valuing what your family worked hard for. What I'm saying is, I agree with you. It shouldn't be taken because he's not there for ten years. It should be taken because of what he's doing to his neighbors for ten years. And then go for auction or something?
Starting point is 01:51:04 Yeah, exactly. Now, like, he has enough violations of HOA. what he's doing to his neighbors for 10 years. And then for auction or something? Yeah, exactly. Now, like he has enough violations of HOA and then it's given up for auction or whatever the fuck it is. And then that money is held for him. It's not held by the HOA, it's just held. And then when he's ready to claim it, he goes and claims it.
Starting point is 01:51:20 You still, I think, need to disincentivize neglect. Which is the fines, what you would get. That's what the HOA does. So some people do that where some people suggest that they basically put a tax on vacant property. That if you leave a property vacant for a certain period of time, you have an increased property tax. And Florida kind of does the opposite where if you live in the place that you own, then you basically get like a homestead tax reduction. And you actually like save on taxes by living in the place because you want to
Starting point is 01:51:46 incentivize people to live in that place I just don't like this idea that like you have to go live there especially when it's an inherited property you don't have to live there
Starting point is 01:51:53 you can just have a tenant you just have to keep it up yeah have someone come mow the lawn yeah if there's some shit leaking have someone come fix it
Starting point is 01:52:00 what I'm saying to you guys is whatever the standard is for the community you should have to uphold that. And if you don't, then you can go take measures to sell it. But just because somebody else upholds the standard of the community and builds up the house doesn't mean it just becomes theirs. I don't want to incentivize that at all.
Starting point is 01:52:14 But it's like, let's say the owner of the Empire State Building just like is like, fuck it. I'm not doing nothing. Yeah. And it just becomes this decrepit building. Of course. In the middle of like the jewel of America. We would, first of all, step in way before that. The city would try to do something.
Starting point is 01:52:27 They would step in and they'd be like, listen, if you're not going to upkeep this building, we're going to keep on fining you and eventually get to the point where you're not paying the fines, we're going to auction off this building. And then whatever that building makes after it pays off all the fines and all the money that the city had to invest to upkeep it, can go into an account
Starting point is 01:52:44 and that is held for you. And it's going to be way less than if you built it up real nice and sold it, but that is your money. It's not the city's money. So you're basically saying the city can seize it, but a person can't seize it. Yes. And by seizing it, they're only, they're selling it. So they're not taking it away. They're selling it for whatever value is there. And then you get to keep that value, but they're basically, or they're forcing you to sell it. And if the first thing is what people do when they kick you out of a community, right? I think like Nicki Minaj and her husband is a child sex offender. So she had to, she got, I think, kicked out of her community in LA. Did you guys
Starting point is 01:53:18 see that story? Or like the community stepped up and they're like, we don't want a sex offender living in our area. So I think they forced them to sell their home. So they had to sell their home. Now, if they're not willing to sell, I imagine it goes to court, and then maybe the court rules that they have to because the community said, and then they forcefully sell it, but they still get the money for their home. You enjoy the value going back to the person who owned it. Yeah, I think that's fair.
Starting point is 01:53:42 I just think that's fair. I agree with you. I don't mind it not going back at a certain point. To me, a lot of it is just tied into the duration. Like 10 years of neglect is a long time of neglect. And my issue with the tenant's rights in New York is 30 days is not enough to be like, no, I live here, you can't get me out. If that time was a year and squatter's rights is 10 years, I'm okay with both as if the duration makes sense to me.
Starting point is 01:54:04 10 years makes sense to me. And that's really all I'm okay with both as if the duration makes sense to me 10 years makes sense to me and that's really all I'm saying if it's 10 years of neglect I don't feel you should be rewarded in any form or fashion for 10 years of neglect all this to say
Starting point is 01:54:11 people are reading the headline being like oh some dude went in there while they were on lunch and then stole the place not what happened right there's another one
Starting point is 01:54:18 that's even more interesting happened in New York this is the one in Long Island it's like yeah it's in Little Neck I think Great Neck I don't remember
Starting point is 01:54:24 somewhere in Long Island there's two necks out there yeah a couple necks yeah and basically this dude brett flores here's the story okay on his face there's a guy that's living in a house he owns the house he's an old dude he's got this caretaker that he's paying cash every week take care of him the guy basically tells him hey when i die you get the house the guy dies the caretaker is like sick i got the house which bad incentive don't tell your caretaker you get the house the guy dies the caretaker's like sick i got the house which bad incentive don't tell your caretaker you get some shit if you die so then he dies the guy gets the house he's like all right bet i got this house that's sick the house basically then goes into the ownership of like the trust of the guy yep this dude that got it just had a verbal agreement that
Starting point is 01:54:58 it was his and now he's the tenant he's just living there rent free yeah it now gets sold and then a family buys it the land is family they have like three kids one of the kids is down syndrome and they include this in the story to be like this is so fucked up how are you gonna do this we're trying to raise our kid and retire in our dream home yeah so now the family goes to try to live in the house and they can't because this tenant is living in there and he has all the legal rights they have to keep on paying rent they have to keep the heat on in the winter time and it's just the whole thing's fucked. That's the story. Yeah. What actually happened is fucking wild. Can you guess? No. The family that tried to buy the property cooperated with the tenant prior to the sale,
Starting point is 01:55:36 then said, hey, if you stay in the place and cause a problem, you will lower the value. Because they knew that there was an unruly tenant in the house when they bought it. So the original value was like 2.8. And what they eventually bought it for was like 2. Wow. And so they basically cooperated with the tenant to say, hey, you live in here, cause a problem, use your tenant's rights to like fuck up the sale for anyone else that's considering buying it.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Drive them out. And we will take on the sale knowing that there's an unruly tenant. And we'll give you like 100 grand to do it. And then once we come in, you got to get the fuck will take on the sale knowing that there's an unruly tenant, and we'll give you like 100 grand to do it. And then once we come in, you got to get the fuck out. And the guy was like, deal. Fire. And then they renegotiated on the contract.
Starting point is 01:56:14 What does that mean? Then they renegotiated? So they buy the house for 2 million, and then they go to the guy and say, all right, get the fuck out. And then he says? And the guy goes, where's the money? He promised me 100,000 to cause a problem. And they go, we're not paying you. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:56:31 And the guy's like, no, fuck you guys you guys i'm staying here pay me my money and they're like no we're not doing it they call the police they try to get him out they try to go through like the legal way to get a tenant out and thinking like yeah it'll cost us like 40 grand to get him out so we'll pay 40 grand to the city instead of 100 grand to this guy they try to fuck him and so the guy's like no fuck it i'm staying here and he stays and basically like runs up this whole thing and then the family goes to the paper and they're like these squatters rights these tenants they're fucking going crazy wild right this family is a piece of fucking now again this is coming from that guy's attorney so this is the attorney from the squatter that's saying that this is what happened no one really knows because it hasn't gone to court yet the guy's still living in the house.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Yeah. But that is... So the caretaker, was he the squatter or is that different? Okay. The caretaker was the squatter, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:12 And apparently the lawyer has like a one-hour phone call recording with the owners, the new owners, to basically like set up this conspiracy. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Crazy. That's the thing, you can't trust motherfuckers that are willing to do this. Yeah. If they're willing to screw these people over, they're willing to screw you over. You need everything in writing. And I'll throw a bunch of allegedly's on this. I don't know what the actual details are. This is just
Starting point is 01:57:34 what one article I read. What an absolute scumbag. You can't trust a single headline anymore. It's unbelievable. Great. Just the story. Let's say if the story's false, like, I guarantee people are going to try to do this when they go to buy a house. Oh, wow. Like you're incentivized. Like, yo, I can get so much cut off this house.
Starting point is 01:57:53 I just have to find a house who's like rent or rent to buy. Yeah. And then boom. This is not the same thing at all. But the more information you have going into like purchase a home, you know, the better you are at negotiating, right? Like a friend of mine was purchasing an apartment and he did his due diligence. We all know him. And he found out that it was being sold by a trust and it was an inheritance trust. by a trust and it was an inheritance trust. So the person dies, the home, like in this situation, goes into the trust. There's executors of the trust, right? Someone whose job it is to like divvy up all the things that that person has. And then usually what they do is they sell the property and then disperse the capital through all the brothers or sisters or nieces and nephews, whatever.
Starting point is 01:58:52 When you get something inherited to you and it's only coming in as cash, you're not as closely tied to the amount that it's worth because it was zero to you. Yeah, yeah. And you're splitting it between five people. Yeah. The second he found out about that, he starts bullying them on the price. He's like, oh, these guys just want money quick. they don't want to be time this means nothing they're selling your home that's my home i love what you put into it and what it means to you it's also you might need that money to buy a different home right right like dude you so he finds out this information
Starting point is 01:59:18 and he he bullies them fucking down and i it makes sense because, again, this money to them is free. They had zero dollars. These are family members. And now they're standing to make, who knows, maybe $100,000 each. You're like, okay, so I could make $100,000 now or I could make $85,000. I can make $100,000 potentially two months from now when I keep
Starting point is 01:59:40 negotiating. Maybe this deal falls apart. Maybe there's another deal that happens. Maybe that deal falls apart. In the meantime, I got to pay the dues for the apartment. I got to upkeep this apartment. Now I have responsibilities to the apartment that I didn't have before.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Or I can make 85 grand right now and no issue. That's smart. That's fucking smart. Yep. Hui. Wafa, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:59 So all these headlines generally, not all, I'm not going to say all, but a lot of the headlines it seems like are kind of like out of context or cherry-picked or lack the nuance. Yeah. And they just enrage people. So I was talking to-
Starting point is 02:00:10 People get fucking fired up. I was talking to Rogan about this, and I wonder if, okay, you know how like our parents, maybe my parents are a little different, but like they can't really discern between like a Nigerian prince calling them and asking for tax money and then saying that they're going to make $3 million. like a Nigerian prince calling them and asking for tax money and then saying that they're going to make $3 million. They can't really discern between that and a real call from AT&T that's saying, hey, your bill is past due. My parents are better than me, dude. They grew up in scam central. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 02:00:35 But the point I'm trying to make is an older generation is more used to the people that call their phone calling with truthful information, right? And asking them and helping them about something. Ah, yeah, yeah. Right? Baseline, is that okay? Okay. I think we're in this generation where we were raised knowing there are some scams,
Starting point is 02:00:59 but at least when it comes to the news, we saw headlines, we kind of trusted, right? And now our eyes are opening, like our parents' eyes are opening to Nigerian scams. Like my mom might get a call now and she's like, what do you mean? I don't even have an AT&T phone. Wait, why? This is a scam. I'm hanging up. We're doing that with news.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Our parents aren't there with news. They trust news. They see this headline. This is what the fuck it is. We're going through this with news. We're like, like oh i don't know if i can really trust headlines i hope my hope is that the generation below us i think they do sees every headline and reads it with the same scrutiny that we will hear a nigerian prince phone caller or email scam yeah they have high school classes about this.
Starting point is 02:01:45 So my concern was, yo, we're fucked. You can't believe a single thing. We're only fucked if the people knee-jerk believe the headlines. If the kids growing up know that all headlines are bullshit and they're salacious and they're just made for clicks, which they will because they grew up on YouTube. They grew up learning about scams. Like we grew up learning about these phone scams
Starting point is 02:02:05 and it's not even scam it's like they're on YouTube clicking on things and they're watching the video going ugh it's not really what that thumbnail
Starting point is 02:02:13 made it seem like the way you saw your parents like get scammed or steal the phone and you're like mom you're not actually
Starting point is 02:02:18 talking to a guy I think our younger generation will see their parents being like you really believe you believe headlines? You believe the news?
Starting point is 02:02:27 Just because they said this, you're getting annoyed about it and fired up? It's obviously not true. Yes. So that makes me feel a little bit more comfortable and a little bit more hopeful because the idea of just like every single headline that we read that is enticing is fake. It is 10 for 10. Every read that is enticing is fake. It is 10 for 10.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Every headline that is enticing is fake. Yeah. How crazy is that? Yeah. Or it just lacks nuance. Like technically this guy did take a dead woman's home. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:57 This caretaker did walk. Let me clarify. They find the way to come up with the best YouTube title. Yes. It's all YouTube titles. Yes, yes, yes. come up with the best YouTube title. Yes.
Starting point is 02:03:03 It's all YouTube titles. Yes, yes, yes. And it's like, when I say fake, it is true in that the words can be interpreted in a way that's true. But the way that it is presented, they are putting it out there in the world in a way that they know it will be misinterpreted for their benefit.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Whatever gets the most clicks. My wife is in journalism school at NYU, was, got a master's. She learned, she's like, it is what gets the most clicks. My wife is in journalism school at NYU, was, got a master's. They, she learned, she's like, it is what gets the most clicks and is still true enough.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Yeah. Yeah. True enough. True enough. Yeah. And let's get the most clicks. Yeah. But now these kids will know that
Starting point is 02:03:37 and ideally will be kind of good and they just won't click on shit or they'll click on it with skepticism, which maybe is good. Yeah. I probably should do that. That's good. Have you heard that thing? Like if there's a question and a headline, the answer is almosticism, which maybe is good. Yeah, you probably should do that regardless. That's good.
Starting point is 02:03:45 Have you heard that thing, like if there's a question in a headline, the answer is almost always no? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is Bill Gates really a lizard? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Yeah, I've heard it was like some journalism professor, like it's like the Zimmerman rule or some shit. Like if something has a question, it's like, yeah, probably not. One thing I'm starting to realize is that, like, let's say these squatters, right rights we're seeing so many headlines about it but i'm realizing the problem is never as bad as what the news is making it like had the way that they're talking about crime in new york crime is almost at an all-time low but it's really if yeah but if you look at news and what the headlines are you think it's
Starting point is 02:04:22 getting punched in the face yeah yeah so it's really it's been better than i'm gonna piss my pants i was talking to rogan about this too like he was like how is new york and i'm sure well he's not here he's just consuming content about new york and the content looks wild he's like but like have you noticed the migrants or whatever and i was like joe new york is the most diverse city in the world. It is physically impossible to notice the migrants. It's just not possible. Like, if you lived in, like, the white—if you lived in Montana, right, and all of a sudden a bunch of fucking Sudanese people are walking around, yeah, you'd notice them. Yeah, if you're in New York on a bus with Mexicans, you're in Spanish Harlem. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:05:01 You just—it is not physically possible. you're in spanish harlem exactly you just it is not physically possible so for people who are like oh the city's completely changed one those people probably let's say the city has gotten objectively more dangerous have you seen more crime that is for people who probably haven't been here for 20 years i've been here for 40 years so i've seen it in ways that are so much more dangerous that it would blow all your money new york is a fucking apple store compared to when we grew up how was lower east side when you were growing up dude bro how was williamsburg when you're doing it's they said the williamsburg was just straight jewish like this idea like we would drive through it my dad would drive through
Starting point is 02:05:39 it trying to hit him no no he would just be like hey i want you to i want you to see this this is like a mate look at this city like there's this group of people that are living a completely different life they're all dressing a different way and he was just like look how amazing this is like this is not even that far from where you live look at this and we would drive through it i remember we were going out to the beach and uh but like he would purposely want us to drive through this section that's always really cool but but, this idea that it's different, it's impossible for New York to be more dangerous than it was when I was growing up.
Starting point is 02:06:13 I can't even, the way that New York was dangerous, and that is when it was safe. New York in the 70s, people were breaking into your home. You know all the bars and the windows in the buildings? It's because you would show up and there'd be a Dominican guy in your living room just like ransacking your silverware. This was like a normal thing.
Starting point is 02:06:33 Did your parents leave the car doors unlocked? No. Oh, so that they would just take the thing without breaking your window? They would break your window and take your radio. No, we would put the sign on the thing saying no radio. Oh, really? Yeah, you just put a sign on your car and be like, there's nothing here.
Starting point is 02:06:49 Crazy. But every one of our cars got stolen. Every one of our North Faces got taken. Backpacks stolen. Like, it was so, being robbed was so normal. I didn't know people didn't get robbed. Bro, I was talking to Jamil about this.
Starting point is 02:07:05 I was literally, I was talking to Shifty. I was like, yeah, when I was a kid, I was afraid of like bears. And she was like, when I was a kid, I was afraid of coyotes. I was like, Jamil, what were you afraid of? He was like, getting slashed in the face. I was like, Jesus.
Starting point is 02:07:15 Dude, I've told you this before where like my middle school said, don't, if anybody asks you the time, don't tell them. Because it was around like blood initiation time around Halloween. And they're like, please do not wear red. And if anybody asks you the time, do not tell them because they was around like a blood initiation time around halloween and they're like please do not wear red and if anybody asks you the time do not tell them because they're going to use that as an opportunity to slash your face we were 12 crazy so like this idea like oh
Starting point is 02:07:33 my god new york is so dangerous yeah for you guys that came from maine when we grew up here the level of danger was compared to what people are used to now, was incomparable. It's not even close. That's why I just hate the media, how they're just scaring people and making it seem like it's horrible. And it's really not. But then you trick the people who don't have the nuance, like the older generation. My mom thinks New York is crazy right now. So crime is lower than it was
Starting point is 02:08:05 10 years because when I moved I moved to New York even 10 years ago 08 and I'm like I think I was moved in the safest time
Starting point is 02:08:11 that's ever been in New York from 08 till 2020 I was like this is I dude I would walk New York Comedy Club was what
Starting point is 02:08:17 24th and 2nd I would walk home 50th and 8th 2 in the morning Saturday I wouldn't give a fuck still the same still the same
Starting point is 02:08:24 I would say train vibes feel different to me if i'm on the train the whole energy feels different to me i think that what people are reacting to a lot more in new york is just i think during covid they had to let the crazies out or something and i think that's it like when you see more crazy people on the street that's fear induing because you don't know what they're gonna do or what they got yeah so when i see a crazy person i assume they got aids everyone and fighting a dude with aids is crazy yeah because even if you win you lose you lose that fight yeah so but in terms of like so funny i think exactly every crazy person got it yep and then we saw this homeless
Starting point is 02:09:04 guy he like slapped his girls i'm i'm like what the fuck are you doing and then he kind of runs off and then andrew was like dude what are you doing that guy could like have eight yeah you don't engage don't 100 no that's the thing i do with the call uh you know someone just called the police yeah if i see crazy people like especially like a crazy drug couple beefing i just say yo someone just called the police they're coming to get yeah and then they usually chill out. Crazy people, yeah. I think there's more crazy people and I think that's because it was during COVID
Starting point is 02:09:30 they couldn't lock them up. What was the crazy thing? This goes back to deinstitutionalization, which was like shutting down psych wards in the 70s and 80s. This is sort of like a long term effect of that, apparently. Something I've been reading up on. Also, everything everything was closed so the few places that people could get
Starting point is 02:09:49 together you're more congested yeah people aren't going to school you're not doing stuff you're not getting the energy out and it was a tough time for a lot of people so it's like yeah you're going to have an increase in crime also you know you need to you need to punish crime like i was speaking even some cops i was like yo, yo, what's up? What do you guys think is going on? He goes, the problem is we arrest them and then they don't get... The DA. Yeah, yeah. We arrest them and then they get released.
Starting point is 02:10:16 It's like a catch and release situation. That's what it's called. No post bail. Yeah, but they don't actually punish them for the crimes. They don't actually take them to court. So they know that. So there's no way to disincentivize them from doing the crimes. Like they don't actually take them to court. So they know that. So there's really, there's no way to disincentivize them from doing the crime.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Freakonomics. Yeah. Just like statistically went through like theories and they talked about broken window theory and like statistically didn't make that big of an impact. Biggest thing they said that made New York safer was locking up criminals and more criminals for longer. And I'm sure that has negative effects as well.
Starting point is 02:10:42 But in general, that was the biggest statistical driver toward a safer New York. Yeah. So, yeah, we need to actually punish crimes. If you do something illegal, you should be punished for it. Simple as that. Everyone agrees with it. And everybody agrees with it.
Starting point is 02:10:56 You have Rikers that's just overpopulated, but then no one wants to build more prisons in their backyard. So it's like, how can we lock up more people? Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Sorry, anecdotally i do this isn't crime but i do like i'm i see way more just like heroin being shot up out on the streets i remember walking i don't know where i was walking one day but i saw like three different groups of people shooting up heroin saw a homeless guy with just like shit on him piece of intestine coming out of it it was was like a fucking- You're just more aware. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:11:26 I think when you were young and just hungry. Buddy, I moved here at 25. No, no, no. But you're not going to say he moved at the peak. See, I moved in the safest so I think a lot of this
Starting point is 02:11:33 is spoiled. You're like a lot of people which like you don't know New York as dangerous. Yeah, I know what it was. I know I didn't move at that time. I know I moved
Starting point is 02:11:43 when it was safe and I don't think it's what it was. But I think it's not as safe as it was when I moved here. Homelessness. I think I didn't move at that time. I know I moved when it was safe and I don't think it's what it was. But I think it's not as safe as it was when I moved here. Homelessness is super high. It's at the highest since the Great Depression. What is? Homelessness in New York City. Yeah, but there's other...
Starting point is 02:11:55 There's the other thing with the homelessness, which is like, and I think we've spoken about this on the pod, but New York has a right to shelter. It's the biggest city. It's the only big city in the country that has a right to shelter program, which is for our homeless. But now the migrants found out about it and they're like, yo, if we're in America, we might as well go to that place that puts you up in a fucking home or a nice hotel.
Starting point is 02:12:18 That's way better than just living on the street in Arizona. I'd rather go to New York and live in the fucking Pennsylvania hotel or whatever the shit is across from MSG that's completely filled with migrants. So they're taking advantage of a homeless policy that was already at its limit. And now we have 50% more people in that program and no more beds. So it is a manipulation. It is fucked up and it's not for them and they're taking advantage of it. And they're taking beds from people who are actually homeless in new york and dealing with things and homelessness isn't something that you exist in full time you can fluctuate in and out of homelessness and the idea of giving somebody a shelter giving somebody a roof is maybe they can get back on their feet they can't get a job and they can get back in the workforce yeah so there are all these different
Starting point is 02:13:00 things that like combines make it look crazier but what we're used to the crazy of me like the fucking insane crazy that this city was growing up i'm sorry it's not there i think most of us know it's not but i don't think people want it to i don't think so i don't think so i actually think in the same way that like we look at la and we look at san francisco we look at portland and we're like what the fuck has happened to these cities the people from there don't look at it like that like when i was in la and i was asking people about it they're like no i don't really we don't really notice that big idea like yeah it was a little bit whatever but it's not that crazy but if you look at how we view la and how everybody outside la we're like it's tense everywhere every part of it's
Starting point is 02:13:43 destroyed they're all drug you're asking la person they're like yeah we're like, there's tents everywhere. Every part of it's destroyed. They're all drug addicts. You ask an LA person, they're like, yeah, we're not in New York. They literally said, we're not San Francisco. Like, you don't, one, you're used to it. You've compartmentalized it. In your brain, you're like, yeah, there's the Skid Row tent thing. So it doesn't really affect us. But the way that the world is putting out information and the world is consuming it without having anything to reject it
Starting point is 02:14:04 is completely different. And that's the case with new york as well yeah so there's this kid actually that's trying to like fight homelessness it's very interesting australian kid and he's been picked up by all the right-wing media sites because his thing is he posts the address of vacant homes he's australian dude his name's geordie i believe he posts like all these addresses in australia like hey guys vacant homes if anyone wants to go and squat in these you can yeah and he's like being like the point person to get the homeless people or people that want homes into vacant homes wow and he's like ideologically like vacant homes are theft and you shouldn't have vacant homes and it's fucked up and he's like anti-landlord type vibe, I think. I don't want to
Starting point is 02:14:45 mischaracterize him. Wow. That's interesting. And so he's just like, yo, go take these homes. We gotta take this kid out. How long have you been making? That's got a limit. 10 years? It could happen. So all this is my assumption of this, in my opinion. Obviously squatting
Starting point is 02:15:01 is fucked up. Obviously people that are doing this shit aren't even squatting. They're just breaking and entering or trespassing for extended periods of times or hold over tenants and that's fucked up and there should be a way for landlords to get people out in a speedy manner that actually like preserves their property yeah but i think a lot of this is getting picked up right now because it's an election year and i think that these stories specifically resonate with one specific political aisle and they're're like, oh, this is fucked up. 100%. Tenants are crazy.
Starting point is 02:15:26 The entitlement from these people, these drug addicts, da, da, da. And it's getting people emotionally fired up in a time where you need people to vote. Yeah. I mean, who do you think is going to handle tenants better than Donald Trump? Like, if there's one person that is literally built to solve this problem, it's the guy that spent the majority of his life dealing with tenants you're fired yeah that guy you know so yeah wow oh so yeah that's what i think i wonder if that's an interesting strategy if you could like emboldened if you could prop up certain stories that have kind of always percolated but never really had the spotlight on them or attention if you could prop up the stories that people subconsciously
Starting point is 02:16:06 feel like your like their candidate would solve so now you don't even need to go vote for trump migrant crisis yeah well of course of course right to build the wall yeah uh the squatting critical race theory yeah so it's like if that's a really subversive way to get people to vote for you without telling them because back in the day ads are like there's a really subversive way to get people to vote for you without telling them. Because back in the day, ads are like, there's a problem. This guy's going to solve it. Now you actually separate the guy and the problem. You already know what he's synonymous for.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Build up these problems and then have them look for hope. And then you go, oh, that guy's probably more hopeful at solving those problems. And then they feel they've made the decision. And it doesn't feel like an ad. It doesn't feel like an ad. Yeah. That is subversive shit. Some people do it
Starting point is 02:16:48 even more subversive. This guy's half on crime and so now let's make everybody feel like crime is up. Exactly. Some people do it even more subversive. Remember that documentary
Starting point is 02:16:56 Great Hack? It was like about Russian interference in the elections, da-da-da. Okay. There was this guy that in one specific place
Starting point is 02:17:04 in Alabama, I believe believe he was a Democrat guy and he was like, or a Democrat, like lobbyist. He was like working for the Democrats trying to get a Democrat guy elected. He started running Facebook ads saying that the Republican dude was going to ban alcohol. So he was like, vote for, you know, Roy, what's his name? He's going to ban alcohol, turn Alabama into a dry state. This is what we need to preserve our Christian America. Da-da-da. And middle ground Republicans saw that.
Starting point is 02:17:28 We're like, fuck that. And they're like, what the fuck? Oh, that's genius. I don't want these gay people. I have a thousand percent fall for that. But I want to drink a beer at a football game. And it seems pure because the guy's going, vote for him. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:17:39 Yeah, it's not in, it is actually an attack ad. Literally. But it is veiled as support. Mischaracterizing his policy. So as a result, all these like middle of the road Republicans were like, I don't know. That's too extreme. This guy, let me go for this Democrat dude. And he was able, he was able to say like, okay, the ad got like, you know, 2 million clicks or some shit like that.
Starting point is 02:18:01 That specific election decided like the state and that election was won by one percent get the fuck out of here he's like so he swayed the election he believes he's like through facebook ads and through like mischaracterizing the opponent i was able to sway the way i'm surprised it doesn't happen more what year especially with the super packs they're not supposed to be in contact with the candidate like you see the shit that happened with rfk that he didn't know about the commercial but it's like if, hey, if the Super PAC does some shit, it's like, I don't know. I'm surprised that doesn't happen all the time.
Starting point is 02:18:29 I bet you it does. I bet you some of the conversations we're having right now have been manipulated by it. Because you can throw bots at it. That's the other thing. You can make stories seem way bigger than they are. You can make comments seem way more than they are just by throwing bots at it.
Starting point is 02:18:42 So the views are up. The shares, I don't know if you know if the bots can share maybe they can i don't know but they can definitely game the algo yeah whoa that's that's really interesting now i'm looking at this like what are they doing for biden like why aren't the democrats obviously or if the republicans are doing the democrats are doing maybe they're doing different ways so what are the stories that they're promoting that make us feel like biden would solve these problems better no they're doing the anti-trump stories so he's a criminal he's indicted he's not playing the game right yeah because it's more subversive you gotta go out abortion rights again oh because that actually did that's the reason they won the midterms
Starting point is 02:19:19 everybody thought republicans are going to wash democrats in the midterms then the abortion supreme court ruling happened oh, that's fucking good. And people were like, and I saw it. We all saw it happen in real time where it's like, oh, that's the only reason they won. They got more seats than everybody thought. And Trump just had a misstep. I feel a misstep. What did he do?
Starting point is 02:19:37 Like he went on Truth Social and was like, oh, I'm the guy. I'm the reason for Roe v. Wade being overturned. Like, he like... He doubled down. He doubled down. I think he said, but it should be up to the states. And he said, I also believe in exceptions for rape, incest. I'm pretty sure he said that.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Which, hardcore rape. Hardcore people don't fuck with that. But I think a lot of moderate people would be like, okay. But that was the miscalculation that Akash was just talking about, where there was supposed to be this red wave, and they really leaned into anti-abortion propaganda propaganda or just the philosophy of anti-abortion. And it didn't really reflect in the polls. If that Supreme Court ruling happened six months later, they'd have their seats done.
Starting point is 02:20:16 And I think that a lot of maybe the Republican think tanks started to go, uh-oh, maybe Republicans don't really care that much about abortion. But it seems like he's trying to play both sides on this one. He's like, I'm responsible for taking it away. But then also I'm like, you guys can do your thing. That is the fucking game, though. I never considered that. You don't need to pitch a candidate once the candidate is known
Starting point is 02:20:40 and what his beliefs are. You need to pitch a candidate when you don't know what they stand for. Everybody kind of knows Trump and what he beliefs are. You need to pitch a candidate when you don't know what they stand for. Everybody kind of knows Trump and what he stands for already. So the marketing can be even more subversive. Convince people that they should be afraid of these things that this guy can solve better
Starting point is 02:20:57 without even connecting them to this guy. You know, that's some really interesting shit. Like if Biden is going to be soft on china convince us that china is the biggest threat to our country and our democracy well we already know what biden's going to do i don't know if we do but we all we know that guy trump was going to be hard on china so i guess i have to yeah that would work on, that's a fear I have you've seen it a lot of times happen with Jews in Israel that is a really important thing for them
Starting point is 02:21:32 and they're looking at the two candidates and they're like, you even saw Michael Rappaport who's literally shit non-stop on Trump for fucking 8 years now because of what's happening in Israel and Palestine, he's like voting for Donald Trump is on the table he's called donald dick stain donald trump the biggest corrupt the worst motherfucker for eight years now and because donald trump has been more supportive
Starting point is 02:21:53 of israel than he believes the biden administration has been he's like now that's on the table yeah so he so so trump doesn't even have to go hey vote for me because the problem exists here and they're looking for the solution and they just pick one or the other. It's kind of like a really subversive vote. That's the game. We're all part of it. It really is. That's crazy. And we're all gameable.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Yeah. And we're all gameable. Yo. And when you, my like rule is like when I feel myself being like, oh, this is fucked up. It ain't. That's when I'm like, wait a yeah what's going on like when i feel myself get emotionally triggered that's when i'm like all right we are our parents with the fucking call when i feel like getting 10 million dollars from a nigerian prince is too good i gotta look into this a little bit when
Starting point is 02:22:40 it feels too good to be true yeah yeah when the story feels too salacious the transvisibility i was like what the fuck okay i spoke about that on rogan it's so funny people refuse people this is how echo this how terrifying echo chambers are i spoke about rogan and i spoke about it i thought quite comprehensively i was like guys this is not by design by the administration they don't i doubt they even want this. They doubled down on it, but. They doubled down on it because it was already. A thing. A thing.
Starting point is 02:23:11 They didn't, right? Like if it wasn't a thing, they wouldn't have doubled down on it. They wouldn't have switched it to replace Easter. They wouldn't go, we have a better day. But it just so happened that it landed on the same day as Easter. And they're like, fuck, we gotta, right? I had Twitter accounts going going this is wrong just flat out what what andrew is saying here is wrong no explanation or anything and it's not wrong it's actually right
Starting point is 02:23:35 what we're saying the date was decided 15 years ago they acknowledged it what seven years ago or so maybe it was three or whatever the fuck it was but still bro i talked to a dude about political bias and how it fucks up your understanding and your ability to literally do measurable mathematics. If you give people two math equations. This guy was a researcher at NYU, a psychologist that literally did the experiment. You give people two math equations. One math equation basically is like, hey, does this skin cream, is it beneficial for controlling this rash that people have? And here's the data set and here's the sample and tell us if it's conclusive or not.
Starting point is 02:24:07 People, when they had the math equation, were able to solve it with like 99% accuracy. Wow. And then when they gave them an equation that said, hey, gun control in this place, these are the stats when you have gun control. Here's what happens with gun control. Here's the data. Do an equation. And they gave some people data where the gun control benefited
Starting point is 02:24:25 their position, that gun control was good, and then other people gave them gun control was bad. And depending on what their political leaning was, they weren't able to do the math equation. At the very least, it took like three times as long for the average person to do the math equation. One, I completely believe it. Two, I also
Starting point is 02:24:42 think there are people that can do the math equation, but know where their bread is buttered. And they refuse to deviate from where their bread is buttered. Also, if there's anybody deviating from where their bread is buttered, they will do everything they can to dismiss or discredit that point of view. It's like when Daily Show sends their correspondence to a rally, and then they're like asking them about like policies and stuff like that and then they're saying things that would
Starting point is 02:25:08 it would force the person to have to go against their policy I don't know I don't know what you're talking about all of a sudden they don't know how to talk it's so great
Starting point is 02:25:15 but like if you if you were given given data that's like comedy's hateful and should be banned in America here's the data support
Starting point is 02:25:20 I'd be like this is wrong this data's you can't like yeah there's no way and people feel so passionately about all of these political issues that they can't see the math
Starting point is 02:25:28 properly i i 100 get that and i understand frustration but it's those accounts that profit off of or brand around these ideas going out of their way to discredit because i'm on this big platform i'm on rogan and we're having this conversation that is nuanced, and they feel the need to discredit it because it goes against the narrative that they have put out there in the world, knowing that it's fake. I just couldn't believe it. I thought this one was going to be one where,
Starting point is 02:25:56 okay, we just ignore it. By we, I mean they. They just ignore it. They're like, oh, let's just ignore this one. Yeah, it's kind of true. We kind of ran with this thing, but it's kind of bullshit. Andrew Schultz is wrong. They don't care. I feel like they convinced themselves let's just ignore this one. Yeah, it's kind of true. We kind of ran with this thing, but it's kind of bullshit. This,
Starting point is 02:26:07 Andrew Schultz is wrong. They don't care. I feel like they convinced themselves that you're wrong. Yo, you might be right. I really, I really, truly, I think they believed it. They're so locked in.
Starting point is 02:26:14 Okay, I thought that they were just, I don't think it's nefarious. That's the thing, yeah. I can't process it. I think there are nefarious actors. I'm sure there are some, but I think the majority. We were actually talking about
Starting point is 02:26:23 two of them early in this podcast. Yeah. J. Yeah. J. Cole. I'm not very attacked. You're right. Listen, guys, we got to get out of here, man. This has been another fantastic episode of Flagrant. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 02:26:39 We love you. We appreciate you. And we will see you Friday on Patreon and then next week. Peace.

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