Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz Reacts To End of Times Prophecy, J. Cole Moist Apology, & Wrestlemania Madness
Episode Date: April 10, 2024YERRR the boys sat down to discuss Candace and Ben's renewed beef, the Red Heifer conspiracy, J Cole's 'apology', squatters taking over NYC and much much more. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 00:23 J. Cole has d...isappointed us + does this change anything? 16:00 Andrew’s going to moderate Candace v Ben Shapiro? 19:44 Is Melania Trump trans? Tricking Mark to shower 25:06 “I will bet my career on it” + Andrew would stir the pot 30:10 Does J Cole look funny in the light? 32:31 Judgment Day incoming + Red Heifers protected by the IDF? 46:45 Mutually assured destruction, Dead Sea Scrolls & Red Heifer ashes 52:25 The Eclipse + Andrew’s nose blocked the sun 1:00:40 What’s the next prophecy? Muslim double or nothing + Jesus is the Undertaker 1:03:34 If world doesn’t end, are religions wrong? 1:06:20 Russell Simmons’ daughter dating OLD + “awesome personality” 1:12:54 Wrestlemania = incredible storytelling, Triple H’s impact + Rock embracing heel 1:22:17 Squatters “taking over”, NYC protects tenants Alexx getting burned + HOA standards 1:54:17 Long Island squatter story wasn’t as it seemed + Due Diligence worth 2:00:11 Being skeptical is essential + NYC was INSANE back in the day 2:14:12 Aussie kid directing homeless to empty homes + political ads being subversive 2:19:00 Republicans leaning into pro-life cost them the mid-terms 2:22:48 Political bias changes EVERYTHING
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What's up, Flager family, and welcome to the show.
Guys, it's looking like the end of times out there.
We've had an earthquake in New York City.
We've had a solar eclipse.
There is trouble in conservative paradise.
There might be a debate between Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens.
And rap beef is no more.
What is happening to this world that we are living in?
It's too soft.
Too soft.
Shall we start with the rap beef?
We can.
Okay.
So clearly,
there's a lovely,
delicious rap beef brewing.
Kendrick Lamar
sends some shots out.
A decade, right?
Yeah, probably a decade
in the making.
End times prophecy
of rap beefs.
Yeah, this is it, dude.
End times prophecy
of rap beefs.
We get to finally see
who is number one.
Kendrick throws some shots out.
It looks like he's just throwing some jabs,
trying to elicit a reaction.
J. Cole gives him the reaction,
and then what happens?
Then he apologized, bro.
Interesting.
Give us the context of this apology.
Well, first I got to start,
I've never been more wrong.
Yeah.
Alvin did big things at Dreamville,
and big things happen.
Drake's coming out of Dreamville.
It's his WrestleMania.
Thank you for honoring that.
It was Black People's WrestleMania.
They were so excited.
Technically, it was supposed to happen.
Something changed.
Because I did get a word that he was supposed to go to Dreamville.
And probably Drake, I mean, Cole releasing this little diss track,
maybe might have changed his plans on that. I't know oh it was a last minute change that
drake he meaning drake so drake was gonna go to dreamville and then he's like no i'm not yeah he
predicted drake was gonna go to dreamville drop a diss and now dreamville for everybody who's
watching is unaware is a uh concert that j cole throws in his hometown yeah okay so north he's
from north carolina yes yeah greensboro or something like that yeah is that it we should that J. Cole throws in his hometown? Yeah. Okay, so he's from North Carolina? Yes.
Greensboro or something like that?
Yeah.
Is that it?
We should know. So he throws a huge concert.
I think there's like 50,000 people there or something crazy.
Yeah.
And then he goes on stage,
and the video we see is he's apologizing for the...
I've never been so disappointed.
Okay, talk through it.
So it's like hip-hop has always been a competitive thing.
Like, it's always, I'm the best, I'm the top dog. Okay, talk through it. So it's like, hip-hop has always been a competitive thing.
Like, it's always,
I'm the best,
I'm the top dog.
Yeah, yeah.
And finally, we were getting some
of that energy again
in hip-hop.
Like, we haven't had it
for a really long time.
And for a decade,
there had been this debate
who's number one
between these three.
Kendrick, Drake, Cole.
Now, there was somebody
who said this,
and I don't want to,
I wish I remembered
exactly who,
but it was,
maybe it was academics,
but it was like,
you can't pull out of the safest rap beef ever.
None of them are going to kill one another.
It's one thing when people start getting shot,
your security's getting murdered.
You're like, okay, let's calm this thing down.
This was only going to be bars.
Yes.
Alex, continue.
So Cold drops a surprise album on Friday,
like a couple of days before dreamville concert and one of
the songs on there it's um seven minute drill yeah where he's taking shots at kendrick he was
responding to that's it by kendrick's um diss track towards him it was mediocre at best yeah he
didn't seem like he wanted to beef like it was just like very lackluster
and then two days later he apologized for making this diss track and like hey i regret doing this
it wasn't it didn't feel good he's losing sleep over it how do you lose sleep over making a
diss track okay so how do you lose sleep over making so i've thought about okay i've thought
about this i've thought about this so this i'm about this. So this, I'm going to give, um.
This is.
I'm going to give, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
I'm going to give, I don't even want to call it pushback.
I'm going to give another perspective on this, right?
J. Cole has existed around the top three rappers for what, the last eight years?
Yeah.
Maybe 10 years, I don't know.
I'm not exactly but like has been
respected by everybody loved by everybody making tons of money never really beefing with anybody
seriously he's lived like a pretty spiritually high journey in the rap game which is hard
think about what drake gotta go through on a daily basis yeah everybody come at his fucking head
every single
person the young bucks are coming at him the old dudes are coming at him their diss tracks come
from every different direction you gotta put a fire out here you gotta put a fire out here you
gotta put up that's a stressful fucking life jay cole gets to be a hippie you know smoke weed if
i don't even know if he smokes weed go help out the community wear whatever the fuck he wants like he gets to really exist he's snapple remember snapple did that thing like we're number
three when you're number three you could mess around with flavors you could make a banana
flavored or raspberry flavored remember he's like coca-cola and pepsi they can't do anything
because they're number one and two but number three that's when you get to experiment and have fun. And he has been able to experiment and have fun.
And he is unanimously respected, maybe not considered the number one, but to his fans, he's the number one, which is what's really important.
Who gives a fuck what the people who aren't your fans think?
If your fans think you're number one, you're number one.
But now he's friends with everybody.
Now he engages in this beef.
He loses the peace.
He loses the sanctity.
Maybe he loses what he really wants.
Maybe he doesn't care about being
unanimous number one in the way Drake does.
That's probably Drake's dream is I need to
be the greatest rapper ever. Maybe what
he likes is his position in the game.
He likes being Snapple and the second he
starts to feel the pressure of being Coke
he was like fuck this. I'm out.
I would agree with you if
he hasn't for the past three years been saying he's the best he's never won but but like he's been
saying it more and more and actually starting to believe it and he's actually been wrapping his
ass up no he's so nice and nobody's like i don't know it's like you can't just keep going for the
spot snapple's better than coke like it is no so it's like better than't just keep going for the spot. Snapple's better than Coke. Like it is.
No.
Better than a Diet Coke?
A DC?
Okay, okay, here's the thing.
Let me get there.
Let me get there.
A DC without lemon is nothing.
A DC without lemon is sludge.
A DC without lemon is poison.
If I don't have a lemon that I can put in a DC, it's not even a DC.
A DC shouldn't even be sold without lemon.
It's a straw, a napkin, and a lemon should come with every single DC.
Coke in a glass bottle.
You're anywhere outside of America, fired.
Crazy.
First of all, now you're taking me internationally.
But that's what it's supposed to be.
The fact that you need to create a caveat that's international just shows me that you don't believe in Coke in America.
That's the real Coke.
It's just the sugar.
That's it.
Which country are you loyal to? Hey, listen here, Ben Shapiro. Which country does your true
loyalty lie? Oh, a Mexican coke is way better than a red wine. At least I'm stepping out
of my Overton window. At least I'm stepping out of my Overton window. Where you at? Okay,
take that right wing Twitter and have some fun for a week. A warm Snapple is like a quarter
water. Like, it's not good at all oh yeah okay now you're
bringing temperature into this you brought it you brought lemon if you come into a snapple
we're assuming refrigeration on all beverages yes what i'm trying to say is
baseline i like how they started as rap people and were like, let me tell you what the best drink is.
What's the most refreshing?
Okay, so I guess what I'm trying to say
is maybe
J. Cole
preferred his position of being
beloved by everybody, respected by everybody
and then not bearing the weight of a beef.
The weight of a beef is heavy.
I think maybe he wanted, I agree with Al.
He did say he wanted to be number one.
Maybe when he got there.
Without actually doing it.
But I think when he, do you know what I'm saying?
Like, in rap, sorry to cut you, but like, you get to say your number.
Everybody says their number.
Everybody says their number.
I got the most bitches.
I make the most money.
I got everything.
But he was doing it, to Al's point.
He was the best.
But I think when he started to get there, now everybody's seeing you as number one,
and then they start shooting at you at number one, heavy as the head towards the crown,
you're like, hey, man, take that. I don't want it you gotta talk shit is that possible you gotta
talk shit about someone like it's what do you mean possible but you don't make the diss track then
but like yeah that's what i'm saying like i think in order to be quote unquote be number one he has
to talk shit about someone that he respects and admires yeah and that sucks i think he probably
went to bed being like why the fuck did i do this yeah why am i like
engaging in this like petty nonsense for what so that the casuals who don't think i'm number one
can now think i'm number one yeah i mean he says that he goes i want to protect my peace and i was
like yeah that's far i don't know his peace wasn't disturbed after first person shooter when he makes
a fucking banger where he's saying hey i'm muham Muhammad Ali out of these three guys. But now when he drops a weak diss track,
now all of a sudden my piece is the same.
I'm not into this.
I'm not into what he did.
Muhammad Ali's not the greatest boxer ever.
He's like the Snapple of boxers.
Yeah, he's the Snapple of boxers.
It's the one we all like the most.
It's the one we enjoy the most.
Floyd Mayweather's the greatest boxer ever.
I don't think he wrote that thinking, I'm not the greatest.
I think that was his intention when he wrote it.
No, and again, I don't know if that's intention,
but even the way I interpret it,
he's the most beloved.
There's not one person that doesn't love Muhammad Ali,
but true boxing enthusiasts will say
that he wasn't the greatest boxer ever.
But as a rap fan listening to a rap song,
he's saying he's the greatest.
Sure, but he doesn't shit on anyone.
But that's the one thing.
The only thing he did that was kind of,
I remember thinking in the moment,
I was like, oh, this feels a little.
He says the big three, me and Kendrick or whatever.
And then when he says the Spider-Man meme
is me looking at Drake,
I do remember being like,
oh, you kind of left Kendrick out of that.
But I don't think,
I think he was trying to do the J. Cole thing
to be fair to him where he's like,
hey, we're all great.
I'm the best
because we're doing the rap thing.
I'm making sure everybody
feels good about themselves.
And that's just not...
Dude, this is...
We're just old, I think.
We're like...
I'm almost 40.
I'm looking at this.
I want the rappers
to be what I grew up with.
I think kids are just not like that
as much anymore.
They're like terrapies
and well-adjusted.
Some kids.
Some, some.
Not even close.
It's just not in rap.
It's in streaming.
If you want real beef, you've got to go to streaming.
That's what a real beef is.
On rap, you're not going to find no real beef.
Well, I'm 40 again, so I'm not going to be.
Yeah, you fucking loser.
Watch some.
Come on, brother.
Watch some streams.
Let's eat some real beef, okay?
Come on.
Turbo.
Special team.
Come on, brother.
We need some real beef from you, J. on brother we need some real beef from you j cole
you need some real beef no i i it was he's definitely that i respect it i i i here's
the thing i understand where he's coming from and i i selfishly you just want carnage right
like he wants to see black man fight that's what, right? Like he wants to see black man fight.
That's what you want to see.
You want to see black man fight spa.
That's true.
Black man loves,
they love boxing.
Yeah.
Come on.
A nice little slap box.
You know,
why can't we love each other?
Why can't they just,
just love?
No,
no,
no.
What if they just punches and shit like that?
We don't want to see that shit.
Come on. You want to see real, you want to go to Atlanta. We don't want to see that shit.
Come on, man. You want to see real blood.
Yeah.
You want to see blood shit.
No, I think we want to see someone come out of this and be like, oh, that's the guy.
Yes.
I think that's what we want.
We want a champion.
What we got out of this is now knowing who's not the guy.
Does that ever happen, though?
Cole can never be the guy.
Does that ever happen in a rap beat for like, oh, so Nas is the guy?
No, but he clearly won the battle.
There's no question who won.
And Drake and Meek, Drake clearly won the battle.
Meek can never be that guy after that.
So it's like, it's one of those things where it's just like, hey, this person is better than you when you guys battle each other.
Even Push clearly beat Drake, even if Drake is great.
Nobody even remembers.
So then it doesn't prove who the guy is
people remember that
you know who didn't forget
hold on
make that
but like everyone knows
the ether beat
like everyone knows
like yo Nas body Jay Z
but then it's like
Jay Z's still the guy
yeah
but
so it doesn't prove anything
here's the gap
the gap between
Jay Z and Nas
way bigger
and I don't mean
in terms of rap skill
but just accolades
and sales
and everything
and duration
way bigger than the gap between Cole, Kendrick, Drake.
But the point is, at the time, it wasn't.
And then Nas won, and Jay-Z got here.
So despite losing, he still got here.
So to Mark's point, it doesn't really decide.
All it does is decide for that moment.
With Pusha and Drake, it decided for that moment, and then Drake just went here,
and now we don't really know what Pusha's doing.
So it doesn't really decide anything.
It helps us. We enjoy it.
We like to chew on it. It's nice and fatty.
But the reality is it doesn't really dictate career.
I do think at this level, they've been in the game so long,
I do think, yeah, I guess, I mean, how old is Jake old?
He's in his mid-30s. He could keep going. He could.
But I think when it's this close, we're're talking tiebreakers maybe a beef is like a
tiebreaker yeah and i think this is this was the tiebreaker because we don't see we see them here
and we've seen them here for 10 years now here's the thing i never and this is with all due respect
to jay cole i've never seen him in that i I don't see Kendrick there.
It's Drake, and that's it.
And there's a big drop-off after Drake.
And that's it.
And J. Cole, I think, is so beloved and respected and thought of as a nice guy,
and then every time he does a feature,
you're like, is this guy the best rapper
on the fucking planet?
You're like, this is incredible.
He's just so skilled at the thing and so loved
that you're like, yeah, I think he's up there.
But he's not really.
If you're only going by sales, then I can see why you say that.
No, they're not sales.
But in terms of musical ability and how they craft albums, they all make amazing albums.
No, they're all masterful at their craft.
Don't get me wrong.
They're all masterful at their craft.
I'm talking about cultural impact.
Even Kendrick.
Kendrick might come out, drop, and then it's a big explosion for a little bit.
It's like a streaming show.
It's like a streaming show.
It's like he comes out, there's a season of it, everybody's consuming it,
and then after that, we take a break from Kendrick.
Whereas Drake is just omnipresent.
You walk into fucking H&M, it's going to be Drake.
You walk into the club, it's going to be Drake.
You're at the fucking airport, it's just everywhere. It's inescapable.
This isn't a perfect analogy because the show
I'm going to compare
the artist to
put out more content,
but it's like,
Drake is Friends,
Kendrick is Curb.
Larry David comes out
with a season
whenever he kind of feels
like coming out with a season.
Now,
he's put out like 12 seasons
over 30 years or whatever,
but Friends,
bangers consistently,
but you kind of know
what you're getting
and it kind of is what it is.
It's good.
I love that show.
It's great.
Curb is its own thing. Comparing the two is tough, but you're getting and it kind of is what it is it's good it's i love that show it's great curb is its own thing comparing the two is tough but you're like those are all-time great shows
so there's maybe like more density to uh yes a kendrick album yes and that's reflective over
the fact that like it takes him uh yeah several years to put together while drake it might take
him several months to put together he's putting out out, Kendrick's putting out a piece. Right.
This is a piece.
It's art.
It is what it is.
However we feel about it, that is, he put everything into this for years,
and that's the project.
Drake will give you consistent bangers,
and they're not going to hit this level of artistry,
but them motherfuckers are going to consistently hit you.
You just translated into white, bro.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
I'll be honest.
Do y'all listen to Kendrick
do you put it on
I don't put it on
I do a little bit
but definitely not as much
as Drake
but I do listen to Kendrick
I put on J. Cole features
out of all these three
the most
like I was listening to London
after 7 minute rel
I was like that was cool
let me listen to London
and I was like
this shit is so crazy
that London song
is so incredible
it's insane
yeah
but now we're talking about Cole
I guess what I'm saying is-
We all just like carnage.
We want to see him battle.
You want to see it.
You want to see it.
We pay to see fucking YouTubers box.
We can't see a fucking rap beat.
But also, this is a friendly-
But now we're getting what we actually wanted.
I don't think anybody wanted to see J. Cole and Drake go against Kendrick together.
That's a two on one.
If anything, J. Cole separates himself, maintains his relationship with both guys. They get to all dap up when they hang out. Everybody still likes
J Cole. He gets to do features for everybody. He doesn't live with the beef or looking over
his shoulder. Drake is used to that. He's like, this is going to be my life. I'm looking over
my shoulder. I got security. I got hood dudes over here who got my back. I'm partnering up
with these dudes in Houston, these dudes in Toronto. I'm set up. So he's used to that fucking life.
Whereas J. Cole's like, I don't think I want that life.
I don't want to look over my fucking shoulder.
And not like he would have to in this scenario.
It just sucks.
I genuinely think, like, if you, in order to get where you want in your career,
had to shit on someone you really admired and respected, how would you feel?
Well, that's how I felt last week with Ben Shapiro.
Like, if you look throughout my career,
like, I've really, like, loved, respected, and admired him.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, it's not like I've ever made fun of him for the last decade.
No, just two Jews in solidarity.
Yeah, we were together, and I've just, you know,
every chance I had, like, tried to talk about what a genius this guy is
and how amazing he is at debate
and how much I love his political opinion.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you actually look, if you look at my disc opinion. You know what I mean? If you actually look, if you look
at my discography, you know what I mean?
If you look at what I've done on this
platform, you will see, you hand him a support
I had a point that I forgot.
The point that you're trying to make is the greatest beef between
a black person and a Jewish person is not
Drake versus Kendrick.
It's Candice and Ben Shapiro.
And we put that on the map.
We made that happen. It's going down. Ben Shapiro And we put that on the map We made that happen
It's going down
And I'm backing out like J. Cole
I don't want nothing to do with it
Guys, beef is toxic
I don't want anything to do with it
This is too much pressure
Too much pressure
You really did ignite right with Twitter
Bro, it was crazy.
I looked up Twitter.
Every single thing.
I mean, every different community is using
me in whatever way suits them.
It is a
forest fire out there. I saw
almost exclusively praise. I don't know
what you're seeing, but I saw almost exclusively
people being like, thank you. We can finally
hate Jews. Exactly.
It was praise for shit you don't want to be praised for. Yeah. Yeah. But we got to get to the bottom of this. I got to figure out. Yeah. I just think, um, you wouldn't moderate. Here's
the thing. Rap battle. Maybe I would moderate the rap battle if they, if they did it through rap.
There's a greater chance for violence in this beef than any of the rat beefs. That's right. Yo, that's an interesting one.
Moderate the debate between Candace and...
So what do I ask them?
Jews?
How do you feel about that?
What are the questions that you want...
What are the questions you want them to speak on?
Just like, what are your opinions on Israel?
Don't they both know?
Yeah, I feel like they've already said that.
They both said their opinions, so now they're going to debate the
efficacy of their opinions? Yeah, that is
debating. So both of them are
claiming that the other person is not being
genuine or honest or truthful
in their opinions about Israel and Palestine.
No, I think it's whose views are superior
is the point of a debate. You take two high
level people on two issues, or
one divisive issue, two high level people
on both sides of that issue have at it
and then the person who wins
that side is like, fuck you and your
opinions. Y'all are wrong or right.
He's describing a debate.
He's describing a debate.
He did a good job.
What do you want?
That's a debate. That's the nature of a debate.
That was really good what you did.
It was pointless, but it was really good.
Listen, a rap beef is when two rappers will have bars against one another of a debate. That was really good what you did. It was pointless, but it was really good. What was the claim?
Listen, a rap beef is when two rappers
will have bars
against one another
and then the audience
will decide which one
is more hot.
What do we want
on this debate?
That's what we want.
No, no, no.
What I meant was
what do we want them
to actually talk about?
For example,
for me,
the interesting thing
would be why
she's no longer
working there.
So it's not like
what are your opinions
on Israel- palestine
it's was she fired because of israel opinions was she fired because fired because she just had these
absurd stories that she was reporting as if they were truth like what what is the extent of the
overton window he talks about this overton window we don't know it's be if it's because her journalism
was just so salacious that he's like you can't even publish this this is ridiculous or if. Or if it's, hey, you're not speaking about Israel in the way that I like.
Now we're going to have to clip you.
To me, that is more interesting.
Yeah.
Than having the same debate about Israel-Palestine that I've heard a million fucking times.
If I have to see Norman Finkelstein go over and over again, I'm going to blow my fucking head off.
We know Bridget McCrone's a dude.
We don't have to debate.
We get it.
Yeah, we don't need to debate.
I don't need anybody to explain to that.
You can't be the president's wife
unless you act dick.
Hell yeah.
You know that.
You know that.
I can't talk about Melania like that.
Whoa!
I mean, if Melania was trans,
I'm gobbling.
Let me just tell you something.
If Melania's trans,
I'm gobbling.
With all due respect.
With all due respect to Uncle TT, you can't tell me you're not gobbling ifania's trans i'm gobbling with all due respect with all due respect to uncle tt
you can't tell me you're not gobbling if she's i can tell you i'm not gobbling you're not gonna
suck a ball or two or three you don't know what she got she from chernobyl bro you know what she
got down there she might got the triplets what i'm trying to say is if melania got a dang-a-lang
i'm gobbling with all due respect to Trump.
Son, do you see how big Barron Trump is?
You can't get there without double-tested.
You need both sides.
Why do you got this?
Now you're acting crazy right now, Mark.
Who is that?
Mark, you're acting crazy.
They actually kind of look alike.
That's crazy side by side.
That's not by the way.
Caitlyn Jenner acts for Mark's forehead.
Caitlyn showed a picture of Mark's forehead and said, give me that.
Yo, Melania is trans.
Yo, stop.
Why every president's wife got to be trans?
Why every president's wife got to be trans?
Now y'all like trans?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Doesn't it hurt when the president, you love her?
First of all, shout out to Derek Poston.
You never liked trans.
You just liked first ladies.
Okay, Derek? You never liked trans women You just liked first ladies. Okay, Derek?
You never liked trans women.
You liked first ladies.
That's what that means.
At first, they were ladies.
That's why they called that, dude.
Listen, she's beautiful.
He's beautiful.
Whatever.
They're beautiful.
They're fucking beautiful.
Big Milo, man.
Yo, they're beautiful, son.
Stop it.
You're saying you wouldn't take a sniff?
You wouldn't just sniff it down?
You wouldn't put it in your hand like this and just go go i kind of want to know what trans pussy smell like hey put your hand down your pants
scratch and sniff my boy oh you're good that's it you know you know exactly what it smells like
you've been smelling it for 35 years. It can't change smells, right?
I assume it smells new or something.
Yeah, new car smells.
Like a sports story or something.
I don't know, like a Models.
It kind of smells like rubbery.
Dude.
You know that smell.
Yeah.
Like a catcher's mitt.
Like a Rawlings.
Pussy should smell like Rawlings.
Yeah, exactly.
The new one. Nice new Rawlings? Yeah. Pussy should smell like Rawlings. Yeah, exactly. The new one.
The new one.
Nice new Rawlings
before you put that ball in it?
Yeah.
Before you put the rubber band
on the foil?
The art of fish.
The art of fish, dude.
Put it in a microwave
a couple seconds.
You put it in a microwave?
Yeah, and it helps soften it.
That makes sense, actually.
Bro, I did so much dumb shit
with my soccer cleats
when I was a kid.
What'd you do?
They'd always be like,
okay, you gotta wear them
in the shower.
Oh, and then they kind of mold to your feet? That was like what they said. I don't know if that shit worked at all, when I was a kid. What'd you do? They'd always be like, okay, you got to wear them in the shower. Oh, and then they kind of
mold to your feet?
That was like what they said.
I don't know if that shit
worked at all,
but I was like 14 years old
just butt-ass taking
my soccer cleats.
Did it really bother you?
Like I was feeling porn or something.
Was it really uncomfortable
for you to get in the shower?
Yeah, that was the worst part.
That's how they convinced
you to shower.
I had to check him
with soccer cleats.
No, the best way.
Dude, your touch will be so good.
All right, here he goes.
Yeah, dude.
You're just trying to balance
jerking off your sock and cleats in the shower.
That's terrifying.
Yeah, my touch was so sticky, bro.
And the coach is like,
oh, hey, I got to wash your feet now.
Get no water, dude.
That is crazy, dude.
How about this?
This might be on a Patreon episode.
Mark admitted that his coach molested him and his teammates.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't give that out for free.
Okay?
You gotta subscribe.
Patreon.com slash flagrant.
If you want to know how we're all molested, you sign up right there.
Okay?
Alex's story's coming next.
Okay.
Listen, so basically the point is...
They need to debate, and you're going to moderate.
I'm going to moderate the debate between Kendrick and J. Cole.
Yes.
And Candace and Ben.
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I don't know enough about Candace's stuff, right?
I know that, like, she said one of the funniest things ever,
which is when she was saying that Bridget McCraw,
which is the president of France's wife, was a man.
She said, I will bet my career on this.
I mean, like, think of the things you would bet your career on.
Think about how many of them there are
the reason why
I'm laughing at that
is y'all ever like
had to like
throw garbage
into a trash can
from far
and you're like
if I make this
I get everything
I want in my life
for something like that
you like in your mind
bet your career on it
and even then
your hand is shit
you're like
let me get a little closer
let me just dunk this thing
she bet her career on a story that is 99% probably not true.
I mean, maybe the president of France's wife is a pedophile.
That, if she's like, I bet my career on that.
It's more likely.
Pretty likely.
Yeah, yeah.
Right?
Met the kid when he was 15 or something like that.
Ends up marrying him.
That's a little bit goofy.
I know in France, that's considered ancient.
Yeah.
Fucking a 15- year old is is very
it's unbelievable patience yeah a hundred percent but still the conversion scale french 15 is
american 38 it's metric yeah they're operating on celsius and it is what it is their numbers are
celsius okay but to say the president's wife is a man i bet my career on that. Is, is, is absurd.
Yeah.
Is absurd.
I guess she was wrong.
No, no, no, no.
Now, we're going to see.
We're going to see.
Oh, well, she lost her job.
She didn't lose her career.
She didn't lose her career.
If anything, I think she's bigger.
I think she's going to pull her dick out.
No, no.
You're like, we're going to see.
I was like, what is this pay-per-view?
That's crazy.
Nah.
I mean, that's how they could stop all the Muslims from coming to France.
I know that's a big issue.
But if they really want to stop it, I mean, that is a great move right there.
You just market that.
You sure you want to come to this country?
We're all gay.
I mean, that is a strategy.
Oh, my God.
I just found it funny because she's like, Miss, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't ask for handouts.
And then the moment she gets fired, she's asking for donations.
Like, I just found that so hypocritical.
No way.
Yeah.
I didn't know she was asking for donations.
Yeah.
Really?
I'm like.
Does she have her own platform now or something?
I think she's trying to, you know, keep her platform going.
Ah.
I mean, listen, she's like, here's the thing with her she does not
give a fuck we all talk about like saying whatever the fuck you want candace lives that i don't say
whatever the fuck i want she does she lives that shit so the only way that you can live that shit
and make money is if you have donations i think that you get to a certain point of salaciousness that brands are going to be
scared and brands. And that is, that could be, and that's why I want to see them talk. That could be
the reason for the firing. The reason for the firing, I think we've all assumed that it was
the Israel-Palestine stuff because she's been going hard. And Ben has been outspoken about that
as well. But if it's because of this
journalism that he was like yo what the fuck are we publishing the president's wife is a is a man
the french president's wife is a man that could change the discourse now i don't know why ben
wouldn't have just said that in the first place yeah the fact that he didn't makes me go hmm
you know but i don't know but yeah i would like to see them talk. Moderate it. Oh, God.
Yeah, I would love to see Schultz moderate it because he would just be inflammatory.
He wouldn't moderate anything.
Yeah, Schultz would be like,
I think you two are really,
you should really argue a little more.
Like, I don't think this is,
I don't mean stuff being said.
You would just ask a question and go,
oh.
Yeah, we go on.
We go on Schoolyard.
We go on Schoolyard the whole time.
I think he's calling you pussy.
Yeah, 100%.
Ben, I would not tolerate that.
Yeah.
What you just said to me right there, I would not.
All right, fuck it.
I'll moderate it.
Fuck it.
I'll moderate it.
You're more hype manning, I think, is what it is.
Okay, can I do that?
Yeah.
Do I have to choose a side?
Depending on the argument.
Flavor, flavor.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That'd be great.
Do I come with a clock?
Yeah.
That'd be fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, okay.
Maybe I moderate it.
All right, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
I don't even think that they do it.
That's my suspicion.
Did you see both sides pump faking over the weekend?
Yeah.
I saw it, but it doesn't look like she's pump faking.
It looks like he was.
Because she says that this was a planned trip that she was supposed to be in London.
And the Daily Wire was aware of it?
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
It was mainly Daily Wire.
Daily Wire was like, oh, you're all here.
Candace wasn't pump faking.
She's like, like yo let's set
it up let's do it i just don't want to do it on your guys platform which i think is a very
fair thing right you would do it on neutral site yeah but uh but the daily wire was like yeah let's
do it monday and it's just like you know i'm in london monday yeah and you know that because you
had booked your talent to be here and then i was part of your company and you knew about my
schedules and maybe they didn't know about the schedules but once she says that you have to relinquish i think van also had a tweet that
was like this some one of his guys on his team's like this is what we're offering take it or leave
it i think they use the words take it or leave it which is the back and forth is like annoying but
yeah fair fair enough it seems like they were trying to be like let's put it into a specific
thing she we know she can make so she looks bad and we look good and we don't have to debate.
Damn, yo.
The fucking rappers
is getting out-rapped.
They get out-beefed.
Yo, it's a really sad day for rap.
Yeah.
They don't want it no more.
They living pretty.
They living comfy.
They making too much money.
They don't want the smoke.
Or they're just protecting their peace.
Yo.
Come on, bro.
Respect to you, J. Cole.
We still think you're a great rapper.
Go to therapy.
Nope.
But you never liked him for beefing anyway.
Yeah, but now this is, now he's pussy.
Did you think he was a tough guy?
I didn't think he was pussy.
I think Al would have liked if he just didn't, and he says it was a mistake.
We all make mistakes, but Al was like, just don't, would be like, just don't respond.
Yeah.
If you just don't say a fucking word.
It's like you said.
It's like he slapped him and then he was like, yo, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill.
That's the worst person to fight.
That's true.
He did say, though, like, if you want to respond, go ahead.
Like, you got it.
He slapped him and then was like, I'm done.
But that's also like, you're not going to slap that guy.
Come on, bro.
Yeah, you basically, yeah.
Yeah, you said I have cerebral palsy.
Like, if you got to hit me, hit me.
But I'm not going to do it.
Yeah, like.
You should have never put out the Yeah. You're like, hmm.
You should have never put out the track.
That is what I love.
And I don't necessarily listen to Kendrick albums.
I'm not whatever.
But, like, I love that he openly wants it.
The control verse is still one of my favorite verses in the past 10, 15 years. Because he openly is like, hey, no hard feelings.
I want that.
I'm the best.
Let's go. Anybody who wants it best let's go anybody who wants it
let's go yeah i love that he has that energy cole i didn't cole will say it but then he just backs
off drake probably might probably has too much to lose but he's not getting he'll take like
shots like between songs at a concert or make like a post on instagram or caption kendrick
on a track will be like i I'm the fucking best ever.
Anybody who doesn't agree,
feel free.
Let's go.
Say a Kendrick bar.
King Kunta.
Say a Kendrick bar.
Nah, that's like...
The whole control verse,
that goes for Big Cole,
Crit, Jermaine Wale.
He names everybody.
Yeah.
And then he's, I'm trying to murder you, N-Words.
Like, make sure your core fans never heard of you, N-Words.
They don't want to hear one more noun or verb from you, N-Words.
That's fire, dude.
That shit is fire.
Yeah.
It's hard to quote without the N-Words.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It kind of makes it difficult.
Yeah, I guess.
You can feel it.
Anyway, listen, outside of conservative rap beef, rap rap beef, we have had some global events, some cataclysms.
Well, not cataclysms, not even close.
But we have had some events that might lead to the great cataclysm.
The beginning of end times.
Mark has done some research about this.
Mark, can you please fill us in?
This is going to be
a conspiracy corner conversation.
It's not a conspiracy, bro. Oh, this is real?
This is real. Okay, Mark, just fill us in, please.
Speaking of beef, the red heifers
have been delivered to Israel.
Explain what that means.
You would like to know.
Red bone girls?
The red heifers.
First time I heard this was from the...
Lotto?
First time I heard this was from the
Ninjas or Butterflies guys
who have all the clips on Instagram.
Shout out to these guys.
You seem like chill dudes.
Their content I see every single time
I open up Instagram.
They have every conspiracy
absolutely locked the fuck down.
I'm sure that they have a long-form
podcast. I have not listened to long-form yet,
but they're killing it on social
and it's awesome.
It is just like 60 seconds of absolute
heat. They're like,
literally just absorb your whole
next hour of your day.
You'd be like, I guess there are giants.
You're just walking around.
But this is the one that I saw
that kind of piqued my interest
where I was like, oh shit.
And then I saw it percolating everywhere
and then it got picked up by like CBS
and MSNBC.
Like big news companies are talking about this.
So basically,
the Jews want to build a third temple.
Third temple.
The first one was...
Temple of David.
Destroyed by the Babylonians.
Fucking Babylonians.
The next one destroyed by the Romans, I think, or Herod or some shit, 70 AD.
Okay?
Okay.
It's been a long time.
They want to rebuild the third one.
That will basically usher in their Messiah.
They don't have a Messiah, right?
So, in order to build the temple, they need a red heifer.
Can I ask you one question real quick?
Yeah, go ahead.
Their Messiah.
Is that Jesus?
Or supposed to be Jesus?
No.
According to me.
But they need someone else to come through.
And some Jews believe that this guy, I forget his name, I think it's the Lubavitch Jews.
Yeah.
They believe that that guy's already showed up.
Yeah, the rabbi.
Yes.
And he's going to come back.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
He has passed already, but they think he's going to come back. Wait, wait, wait, wait. He has passed already, but they think he's going to come back.
Yes.
That he was in human form as the Rebbe, and he's going to come back as the Messiah.
But that's just one sect of Jews.
Of ultra-Orthodox, yeah.
Yes.
Okay, so they believe in the death and reincarnation.
Dick biters.
Yo, that's how you know Christ is King, son.
Because you heard the story.
What, you're going to have Christmas next?
What else y'all want?
Y'all want Easter too?
Fuck out of here, yo.
Get your own story.
Get modernized.
Get your own story.
Turn your cheek.
We're not doing that.
Turn your cheek.
We're not doing that.
Come on.
Okay?
So basically, they need a red heifer, okay?
A red heifer is literally a red cow.
Yes.
And this is a cow that has all these super specific things.
And they need to sacrifice the heifer in order to basically do a ritual ceremony to then purify all the people building the temple and purify all the tools building the temple.
Gotcha.
And where are they going to build the temple?
Great question, no one asked.
They're going to build it on the temple mount.
Oh, no.
I'm fine, Sal.
I'm about to punch your legs, huh?
That's basically it.
Get your ass up.
Oh, no.
Go on your grill.
Oh, no.
Because why is that tricky?
Because the Temple Mount is...
Controlled and basically has a mosque on it
and controlled by the Muslims in the Middle East.
And it has been for a couple hundred years.
Well, not in the Middle East.
It's in Jerusalem.
In Jerusalem, yeah.
But on the Palestinian side.
Yeah.
And it has a mosque on it.
I believe it's Al-Aqsa, right?
Yeah, exactly.
So Al-Aqsa.
They want to take more land, bro?
Oh, shit.
Just one little thing.
One little thing.
Give them 30 feet.
Bro.
They need to go 30 feet.
They just want the Northex, dude.
They don't even want the whole thing.
I'm not going to lie, bro.
I'm not going to lie.
When we were in Jerusalem, bro, we went like underneath.
Oh, sorry.
We went like underneath.
We went underneath the. Oh, sorry. We went like underneath. We went underneath
the tunnel, bro.
Yeah, they had tunnels.
What was down there, bro?
They had a fucking tunnel.
You got a mattress down there?
Sure, what was it?
And you know who was building them?
They had Palestinians building them.
So that's where they learned.
That's where the Palestinians learned.
Fucked up, fuck around, find out.
It's an away game.
But I remember us going
and basically what they've done is
in order to get your prayers up to God
the closest place to God I believe
is in the
prayer section of the temple mount
right, so that is
where God comes and answers all your prayers
that is my understanding
and I think
that's why when you're at the coattail you
know that the wailing wall where they put the little piece of paper like that's as close as
they can get to the temple mount so you put your bit and you're like okay i'm pretty close maybe
god is going to read the little paper through that yeah it's like dial-up yes dial-up exactly
but you want ethernet you want to be plugged in so there is an underground passageway that they've been excavating, right?
So you basically are going underneath, and you're getting really close to the Temple Mount.
Now, they're not like directly under the Temple Mount, but you're like as close as they legally can.
And I remember being under there, and I was like, this is egregious, guys.
Like, you're really pushing it right now yeah it's like
you can't go on top of the land to it but they're going underneath it feels a little bit like you're
like a little sibling being like yeah yeah you're bugging me though yes yes 100 um okay okay back
to your story so basically not a story it's the facts yes basically they need a red heifer and
they need to combine the ashes of the red heifer
with the previous nine red heifers.
The last red heifer to be sacrificed in this way
was 2,000 years ago.
So that's where things have left off.
That's the prophecy.
But they need eight before that, right?
No, no, no.
They've already had nine.
Accumulated.
They need to do one more.
Now, this site is obviously important for everyone.
It's important for Christians.
It's important for Muslims.
Obviously, that's where...
Why is it important for Christians?
I mean, I think it's just one...
Jesus' Sermon on the Mount, right?
Basically, if they rebuild the temple,
evangelical Christians specifically,
but I think generally all Christians, I guess,
believe that that's when the Messiah will return,
when Jesus comes back.
So we're kind of like...
So evangelicals are in on it.
They want that shit
to pop off i think sermon on the mountain is where jesus said turn the other cheek or whatever the
fuck maybe i shouldn't say fuck my bed but yeah it's all good bro forget forget say it again
but like muslims care about it because that's where uh muhammad prays be upon heaven yo yo
yo yo yo yo yo that that's debatable bros be upon him to heaven. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
That's debatable, bro.
I'm not going to debate that.
I'm just saying it's debatable.
I don't fuck with Muslims, bro.
That's debatable.
I'll make fun of Jews.
I'll make fun of Jews.
I'll make fun of Christians.
While we're on public record,
I don't make fun of Muslims.
You're 100% right.
What some people say is that Muhammad went there in a dream.
That he himself never arrived at al-aqsa but he
went there in his dream and you believe that well i mean that's what every jew has ever told me now
the muslims were like now he pulled up bro he rode up with the donkey you know they was chilling in
there the gaslighting dude the gaslighting it was a dream it was a dream dude but how do we know
who's right who's wrong it's so many years have passed. You know what I mean?
Who's telling the truth?
The side you're afraid of seems like they, right?
Which side?
I'm afraid of all of them.
Okay?
See, only the Christians I'm not afraid of.
That's why Christians need to rule the world.
So that we can not live in fear.
Okay?
We're afraid of all of them.
So the red heifer has to be perfect, okay?
It has to be perfect in its
redness two hairs of any other color will disqualify it even the hooves have to be red
it has to be three or four years old other older animals uh won't be able to be sacrificed
there can't be any kind of internal or external defect or blemish they can't have been yoked
done any physical labor even had a person lean on it They can't even have had a blanket put on it.
So basically a couple of rabbis go to an evangelical Texas rancher and it's basically like, hey, we need your help getting these red heifers. Now you need us. They need five. Now
you need us. They get five of them. Yeah. Yeah. All perfect. No blemishes. They get sent over to
Israel. Now they're in Israel right now. They basically built the altar on the Mount of Olives
where they're going to sacrifice the heifer.
This is where it gets a little wild.
Apparently, a Hamas
spokesperson claims, this happened in 2022,
a Hamas spokesperson claims that
part of the reason that October
7th happened was because of the red heifers.
I was like, there's no way that's true. I googled it.
Apparently, the dude was like, yeah, the red heifer.
I mean, how hard is it to be a Hamas
spokesperson?
That's a great... I mean, I hard is it to be a Hamas spokesperson? That's a great...
I mean, I feel like at this time, you could just raise your hand.
And be like, yeah, I'm doing PR for Hamas.
Yeah.
They could use the help.
I mean, if anyone wants to pick up a PR job,
that's probably a good one.
Easily.
I mean, they can't do it.
They're playing fucking Super Mario Bros. right now.
You know what I mean?
They are.
They're in the plumbing. Aren they i guess okay i mean if you really want to get them out of there you just start
playing okay so but yeah so basically they see it like okay if you get the red heifers here that
means you're trying to make a move on the temple mount that means you're trying to take our shit
so we gotta buck up and that's going to create more conflict.
So as ridiculous as this seems maybe to us, these are all believers.
They all believe.
So if you believe the prophecy and keep in mind, these are all Abrahamic religions.
So the latest one has to believe the stuff before.
So Muslims have to believe in Christians.
Christians have to believe in Jews.
Jews don't really have to believe in the future ones,
but when they need some red heifers,
who the fuck they come to?
Who the fuck they come to?
Texans, baby.
The boys!
The boys!
Texans, brother.
Turbo!
Turbo!
Hey there, brother.
I've got some fat bitches from San Antonio for you, brother.
Yeah, dude.
So it's all heat.
No, apparently they're going to sacrifice the red
heifer during passover which is in like a week and then their messiah will come no because they
don't got the temple mount it's going to start the end times that once they sacrifice the red
heifer then they can start getting the tools and the people to build then they want the end times
well they want to get the messiah popping and he'll but the messiah is a messenger of death
it seems no this is salvation for the
for the jewish jews for the chosen ones for the chosen this is the end of the prophecy they get
to actually you know do whatever their prophecy says seems a little selfish stupid that seems a
little selfish hindus are involved how they're sacrificing your uncle that's right that red
heifer that red heifer could be related to you.
Somewhere, right?
I mean, maybe in like a thousand lives ago.
But I'm just saying there's, what, 15 million Jews?
You're going to end the whole world for 15 million of you?
There's 8 billion people.
Have Jews been known to be extremely considerate?
I'm just saying.
Hey, how's the temperature for you guys?
We'll keep it there.
You've never had Jews in heaven before?
Now, question, question. Because you guys? We'll keep it there. Now, question.
Question.
Yeah.
Within, because you guys believe in reincarnation,
are you more accepting of bestiality?
Okay.
So I can move on to the next part of this.
That's a good question.
I don't think so.
But it happens.
I mean, y'all got that video of the guy getting fucked by the horse. But he does it for the love of the game, I think.
Yeah, he's doing it for the horse.
Like, he doesn't feel good from that.
He just thought the horse needed to get that off.
He didn't have confidence in his hand game.
Mr. Hands.
No, but he's gay.
He wants to get fucked in his ass
by the biggest dick possible,
so he goes horse.
We don't know if he's gay.
Why are you assuming he's gay?
Well, that's pretty gay.
He fucked a horse in your ass.
He fucked a horse. That's not... Yeah, a horse is... A horse, there's gay why are you assuming he's gay that's pretty gay he fucked a horse he fucked a horse
that's not
yeah a horse
there's no gender
it's a horse
no no
that horse had a gender
no but it's not a gender
it's a horse
that horse might have been
the first lady of France
we don't know
we don't know
can you moderate here
we need a moderator
if they got a dick
it's easy
yeah but nobody sees
someone fucking an animal
and goes
is that horse a male
leave it to black people
to be like
whoa that's disgusting he's a fucking gay guy dude what a gay guy Nobody sees someone fucking an animal and goes, is that horse a male? Leave it to Blackface to be like,
whoa, that's disgusting.
He's a fucking gay guy, dude.
That's a big problem.
Get that big problem. A horse is a pussy, right?
That's what he needs to be called.
Okay, so.
But all they got to do is just lean up against his horse
and now you just disqualify all these horses.
Yeah, you don't have to put a blanket on him.
Exactly.
But it's being guarded by the IDF.
No way.
Literally, it's being guarded within a idf no way literally it's being guarded within like a specific building it's like being protected the red heifers yes what is going on in this world
i know this is stupid i didn't believe really i'm sorry religious people but this is they believe
in drones and red heifers that's a kind of insane thing that's a great point like great point news
why even go fight the war if you've got the red heifers?
Most sophisticated missile defense system in the world.
Also, find me six red cows.
Yeah.
It's one or the other.
Yeah.
If you truly believe.
Whoa.
Oh, shit.
Whoa.
Oh, shit.
Whoa.
Talk that shit, Candace.
Whoa.
Whoa.
No, because if you truly believe, you don't have a backup plan,
that's the idea with Faith.
There was no backup plan when my boy was about to split his kid in half.
What was his name?
Isaac.
Isaac was about to chop his kid in half.
No, Abraham was going to chop Isaac in half.
Oh, yeah.
Whatever that was.
Yeah.
You know.
And he was about to split him in half, but there was no backup plan.
There was like, oh, you know, but by the way, I don't know was no backup plan there was like oh you know
but by the way
I don't know what the backup plan
in that situation would be
how many kids did he have
one
that's right
and it was really hard for him
and his wife to conceive
and then they finally conceived
and he was gonna
chop that motherfucker in half
there was no backup plan
and then God was like
just the dick
and then it worked
fucking genius that guy man
yeah dude
but I mean Noah had a backup plan
that's true Noah pat noah had
one plan well it was like you could die here or you get on the boat but it wasn't backup it was
like i know this thing is going to happen i have so much faith that this thing is going to happen
so i have to build this boat so maybe billions of dollars of missiles is the that's the boat
well then you don't believe in the red heifers well no the red heifers are going to bring it
in but then you got to have the the the ammoifers. Well, no, the red heifers are going to bring it in, but then you got to have the ammo to back it up.
They would say
that millions of dollars,
billions of dollars
or whatever
would protect the red heifers
so we can do this.
Otherwise...
Got it, got it, got it.
It's been 2,000 years.
Got it, got it.
I get it, I get it.
It's Hamas animals.
I get it.
I get it.
I get what you're saying.
Okay.
So evangelicals
are on board with it.
So evangelicals and Jews
are just fucking linked in
the the rancher that they found to get this was like yeah man i feel like i'm doing my purpose
right now wow that's hilarious but it's really interesting because they're it's mutually assured
destruction of each other so the the christians are doing it because you know jesus is coming back
and he's killing all these jews and anybody else and we're going to have it and the jews are doing
it because they're like our guy's coming and he's killing all these christians anybody else, and we're going to have it. And the Jews are doing it because they're like, our guy's coming, and he's killing all these Christians, whatever.
So they're both gambling on the same thing, right?
Even Juggles would say, like, every knee will bend
when they see the true light of Christ.
And what did you say?
Jews are like, you guys are dead.
Amazing!
Amazing!
I want to do this as, like, a dinner theater. I want to do this as like a dinner theater.
I want to do Medieval Times, where it's every different religion.
You get to pick one, and then they play it all out.
You're dead, and you're going to hell.
You're not just dead.
You're going to hell.
Well, some Jews don't believe in hell, I guess.
I don't know.
We've got to talk to the Jews.
Yeah, I don't think they believe in it.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's fine.
So it's kind of that part's considerate.
Yeah.
It's hard enough to be Jewish
that they don't feel like you should be tortured
in the afterlife as well.
Do you know what I mean?
What the hell is just living as a Jewish person?
Every second of every day,
constantly analyzing everything around you.
There's discomfort.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's one part of this.
They have to mix the red heifer,
the current sacrifice,
with the other red heifers from 2,000 years ago. Mix them, meaning the ashes. They have to mix the red heifer, the current sacrifice, with the other red heifers
from 2,000 years ago.
Mix them, meaning the ashes.
They have to mix the ashes.
And where do they find the ashes
of the older ones?
They don't have.
Psych.
They're inside.
I fucking got you so bad.
You really thought that was it.
You fucking idiot.
That was adorable.
That was adorable.
It's called drama, guys.
We'll edit it.
Go, go, go.
That was sick.
Go, go, go.
That was awesome.
Where they found the dead sea squirrels,
they also found a clay pot full of ashes.
Of red heifers?
Of red heifers.
There's no way that they could look at the biology
and find out that they're red heifers.
This is so sad.
How do we know it's not Jesus' ashes?
How do we know it's not a Baba Ghanoush
from a long time ago?
If we look it up,
it might be some mashed egg plants.
For real, stop, stop, stop.
Wait, so we're just
not going to look into it
and just hope it's red heifers?
And then we're going to mix it?
They found the ashes
of the red heifers
in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Holy fuck.
Isn't that crazy?
Holy fuck.
It's fucking out here, dude.
Yo, can you answer
something real quick?
I can't.
Come on.
Can you answer
something real quick?
This is so silly.
Hey, Alex,
can you fucking learn something? Yeah, I'm trying. Oh, we're the real Jews. You don't even listen what is hey Alex can you fucking learn something
we're the real Jews
you don't even listen
one time
come on
listen
I am the lost tribe
you guys are just
the late tribe
what are they
basically
I think it's like
the apocrypha
it's basically like
old gospels
it's like gospels
that like talk about
jesus and the fucking jews these are our books or these are jew books or these are muzzy books
i think there are books plus i think it's i think it's christian okay so it's it's the good guys you
found the good guys the good guys you got okay okay can i get a fact check? Shifty, we have one actual Christian in the room.
Yeah.
Can you tell us what the Dead Sea Scrolls are?
Mic him up!
Mic him up!
We're not silencing Christians on this podcast.
Go ahead.
I'm pretty sure it's just a collection of both books.
It's like Jews and Christians.
And it's like, because we both read some of the same books.
That's what I would have to guess.
And is it talking about Jesus?
Yeah, I think some of them are Gospels, I'm pretty sure.
And it's like the oldest one we ever found.
I found it, brother.
Okay, brother, talk to us.
40% of the copies are texts of Hebrew scriptures.
Other 30% are texts from the Second Temple period, which were not canonized in the Hebrew
Bible, like the Book of Enoch, Book of Jubilee, Book of Tobit, the Wisdom of Sirach, Psalms
152 through 155.
The remainder, 30%, are sectarian manuscripts
of previously unknown documents that shed light
on the rules and beliefs of a particular sect
or groups within greater Judaism,
like community rule, Habakkuk, the rule of blessings,
and the war scroll.
You're going to have to explain that again, brother.
I caught none of that.
I understood maybe 50% of those words, brother.
I thought that was English.
You said Tibet and Enoch, and I just shut off, brother. Let me hear it one more time. I heard Hab of that. I understood maybe 50% of the words, brother. You said Tibet and Enoch, and I just shut off, brother.
Let me hear it one more time.
It's about 10% luck, 20% skill,
15% concentrated power of will.
It's just like scriptures and then...
It's all Jewish, though.
Well, no, because Psalms and shit like that.
Book of Enoch.
Enoch is Jewish, dog. Come on.
Enoch is like mark's mom's shit
yeah enoch's like a completely different thing red pill no it's like a it's like pre-bible
don't they talk about aliens and shit yeah your mom me and your mom oh the nephilim oh that's
the giants yeah see we're back on giants i love giants yeah they had giants back on the Giants. Son, I love Giants. Yeah. They had Giants back in the day. Did you?
Yeah, yeah.
We got Jinder Mahal.
We doing it.
Yeah, we did.
So, yeah.
And then we had the eclipse on top of all that.
Full totality over the town of Nineveh.
Why does that matter?
Because Nineveh is the place where Jonah went and was like, hey, it's going to be dark.
After 40 days of darkness, judgment's going to come unless you all repent.
Son, he could kill me now you keep telling this story.
I don't know what the fuck.
Let judgment come.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
I'm locked in.
Go on.
Go on.
This one, I don't know.
I don't really think this makes as much sense.
But basically, they're saying full totality across the United States over seven towns of Nineveh.
Back in the Bible, Jonah went to the people of Nineveh and was like, hey,
it's going to be dark tomorrow. And then you have 40 days from that moment to repent. If you don't
repent, the day of judgment will be upon you. They all repented and they were spared the day
of judgment. But what you're saying is what happened yesterday was the exact same solar
eclipse that happened back in the day. Holy shit. Can I tell you something very quickly?
Please.
Sure.
Did you even have to wear glasses yesterday?
Okay.
All right.
Hold on, hold on.
That's hilarious, bro.
Hold on, hold on.
That's hilarious, bro.
No, no, no, no, no.
Oh, that's so funny.
Alex, Alex, Alex, calm down, Alex.
Alex, calm down.
Alex, calm down. Oh, that got me.. Alex, calm down, Alex. Alex, calm down. What the hell, Alex?
Oh, that got me.
Okay, no, no.
Another one.
Yesterday, all of us saw the eclipse, right?
Yeah, we all saw the eclipse.
Okay.
When Schultz's nose went across the sun.
Yeah, that's true.
So, basically, I was looking at the eclipse for, I would say, about maybe three minutes.
Not directly, but when I started texting the group, I was like, is this shit happening or not?
And then y'all kept messaging me these dark-ass pictures where you'd see the sun.
And I'd look at the picture, and I'd look up, and I'd be like, I don't think this shit happened.
Why?
You didn't know the glasses?
I didn't know you needed the glasses to see it.
Right?
And all I'm thinking in that moment is like,
how the fuck they saw this back in the day?
Because they didn't have these glasses back in the day.
Oh, that's a good point.
How the hell would they see it?
Eyes are good eyes.
They use shadows.
What's that?
They use shadows.
Miles is very into this.
They use shadows?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What does that mean?
Like, if you looked at the shadows...
Stop!
When you said that,
did you think we would understand
or were you reading
from the fucking book of Enoch
or whatever?
It's Enoch shit.
It's alien shit.
No, they use shadows to see it.
What does that mean?
So, like, if you put a colander...
If you put a colander...
Jifty, kick him!
No, don't kick him.
He's too far.
I'll have to J. Cole slap you right now.
I'm going to apologize.
What the fuck?
If you have a circular hole
and it casts a shadow,
it'll be the shape
of the eclipse.
So it'll be crescent shaped.
But here's the thing.
How would they even know
it's going to happen?
They don't know
when it's coming.
Well, totality gets dark.
You've got to imagine
there's just random people
walking around.
So they went and found paper
when it got dark?
Hold on.
Hold on one second.
No.
You're making so much sense
and this guy's driving me crazy.
Hold on.
This shit happens once
in the same situation
in the same place
like once in 300 years.
So you're telling me
it happened,
it got dark out of nowhere
during the day
and then got light again
and they were like,
we should figure that out.
Let's just wait another 300 years.
Will it happen?
Will it happen again?
Like, there's no way.
They happen somewhat constantly
every couple of years.
They're either totality,
annular,
there's all these different types of eclipses they're somewhat trackable there are cultures back in
the day that knew about them and their cultures back in the day that didn't that could track them
and predict them and i don't believe i think that they had the glasses they probably i think they
had the glasses or something or my suspicion was an incredibly cloudy day might block the sun and
that also that like you know how we're like,
oh my God, we won't be able to see it because of clouds.
Yeah.
I actually think that might help you see it.
It was such a beautiful day.
It was so profound that if you didn't have those sunglasses,
you didn't notice any difference.
Did you look at it?
Did you guys Trump it?
Also, apologies for making fun of Trump.
Of course you're going to do that.
Yeah.
Remember when Trump looked at the solar eclipse without the glasses and everybody was, oh, we're a fucking idiot.
But I think he went out without glasses.
No, he took them off, looked at it, and then put it back on.
I did that like 10 fucking times.
I did not.
You'll be blocked.
I was like, he's not the first president to do it.
John Quincy Adams partially blinded himself staring at a-
That's why I didn't do it.
Yeah.
Staring at a solar eclipse.
Your eyes are bad enough. Why'd you just try to make them work? My shit was fucked up. I didn't do it. Yeah. Staring at a solar eclipse. Your eyes are bad enough.
Why'd you just try to make them work?
No, my shit was fucked up.
I ain't gonna lie.
Today, I even feel it.
I don't feel good.
Yeah, this shit kind of goes hard, bro.
Yeah, it's a fire picture.
Look at Baron.
You see the photo of the Border Patrol?
He's got...
There's a Border Patrol guy on the south border,
and he's got...
They're in the path of fatality.
So he's got three illegal immigrants handcuffed to each other.
And he's put solar eclipsed glasses on them.
So they can all see?
So they all can see as they're walking back to like the truck.
That's amazing.
Yo, look up, fuckers.
Wow, that's sick.
Yo, look at this fool.
My man at the end has none, though.
He's got the squints.
He's got safety squints.
He can just sort of.
Yeah, that is fucked up. No one of them doesn't get it. Well, I think He's still looking. He's got the squints. He's got safety squints. He can just sort of... Yeah, that is fucked up.
No one of them doesn't get it.
Well, I think he passed him around.
Also, these Mexicans look wildly Indian.
Yobby Sneak is not. Even my man's shirt.
The stink coming from everywhere, bro.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, I've heard this.
But even blue shirt, that's the most Indian outfit possible.
It is.
Yeah, that guy's going to fuck you on a tire change or some shit.
Oh, what?
What?
I was trying to think of an Indian scam I don't think they do tires though
can I be honest I'm relieved
that bum
it was like an Indian scam
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Where are we in the conspiracy?
What else do we have left?
Because I feel like there's one more component.
Didn't finish reading the article.
Scythe!
Scythe!
Scythe!
No, I don't think...
Basically, everyone's just like,
okay, if they rebuild it,
then it's going to be
a lot of violence.
And then if they can
actually rebuild it,
then there's going to be
an antichrist that's going to come.
There's already a lot of violence.
I know.
Like, specifically...
Can I ask you something?
You haven't seen nothing yet.
The rivers will run red with blood.
Whoa, whoa.
Yeah, go ahead.
Now, here's something very important.
If you're Mosenstein, if you're a big old Muzi,
and you believe in your God,
you should be like, yo, let them build it.
Y'all are wrong.
We wouldn't be here if you were right,
but y'all are clearly wrong.
That's why we're here. Build whatever you need to build. Don't build it if you were right, but y'all are clearly wrong. That's why we're here.
Build whatever you need to build.
Don't build it on the Temple Mount,
but take your heifers,
do whatever the fuck you want.
But they need to build it on the Temple Mount.
Now you can't disrespect.
That's violation.
That's my point.
You can't violate.
You can't violate.
That's just now putting that together.
If I'm them,
if I,
oh, oh, oh,
I got it.
This is the whole shit.
I got it.
I got it.
If I'm,
if I'm the Muslims, I go, we'll build it for you.
Oh.
I go, we'll build it for you.
If they don't come, it's ours.
All of it.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Or put your belief where your mouth is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see how much y'all really believe.
If you really believe this is all it's going to take for your Messiah to come down,
we'll build it for you on the Temple Mount,
sacrifice the heifers, mix up the ashes,
do whatever the fuck you want.
If it doesn't work, then we create the new borders.
Yeah, that's kind of fire.
And then you're going to see a lot of, what is it,
shakiness in faith.
Well, that's just them praying.
I think it will be.
That would be fire, though.
Right? Let's see who believes. Fast to move. We're building. But yeah, I think it will be, that would be fire. Right?
That would be fire.
Let's see who believes.
Fast to move.
We're building a dude fight.
I'll host that debate.
I would love to host that debate.
Oh my God,
just to be right there
in the middle
to find out Christ is king.
Just let them,
let the other two,
let the other two sides fight
and then find out
the J-Man coming back.
It's Undertaker
at WrestleMania.
Do you think it's going to be The Rock?
Do you think it's going to be
whoever the fuck he is?
He's the original Undertaker, dude.
Yo!
Come on, bro.
Yo!
I mean, how fire would that be?
Do you think he would recognize?
If Price came back and chokeslammed a Jew?
He would never do that.
Turn the other cheek. He would turn do that. Turn the other cheek.
He would turn the other cheek.
Okay, that's way less fun.
We don't know what he would do
to the Muzzies, though,
because they're from the future.
From the top rope.
Like, that's what it'd be.
He might...
I'm in.
Yes.
Jesus as a wrestler
would actually be so fired
that fit flapping in the wings
as he's going from rope to rope.
You'd look like Roman Reigns.
It'd be sick.
I mean, we... Anyway, let's see what this happens. to rope. You look like Roman Reigns. It'd be sick. I mean, anyway, let's
see what this happens. We got some interesting things
going down. Yeah.
A faith off is fire.
Yeah. I like a faith off.
Yeah, we are. I mean, that's a great... So, are we done
in 40 days? If you
keep on living the way you're living? Okay.
So, shouldn't that be a test to it?
Choose up, Al. Choose up. No, but I'm just saying
in 40 days if nothing happens, then...
Nah, no, no, no, no.
If nothing happens,
then you move the goalposts.
Yeah, that's how it's done, I think.
You know how many times
Christians have thought the world was ending?
Yeah, I know.
And just with some other thing.
Oh, when?
Yeah, I know.
All the time.
All the time.
When?
All the time.
When?
Like, literally, 2000?
Supposed to end?
No, Christian was worried about that.
That was fucking lesbians and stuff.
Yeah. That was like Silicon Valley.
Yeah.
Silicon Valley.
Huh?
What about the Branch Davidians?
Weren't they Christian?
No.
Yeah, they were.
Yep.
The world's going to end all goddamn time.
Waco's very Christian.
Let me tell you something about Waco.
That shit is wild Christian.
No, no, no.
You go to Waco, you're going to be less Christian.
I went to Waco.
Where?
I went to Waco.
I surfed there.
There's a wave pool.
You walked on water in Waco?
Literally.
That's what Christian kids do.
The Christ is king, bro.
Did you go around Waco and hang out with the vibe?
Yes, I went to a taco shop after.
It was delicious. It was amazing.
Had a great conversation.
I had a conversation with a surfer.
There were some Mexicans running the taco shop.
Was that where the cult was?
Yeah, that's what he's Catholic. Is that where the cult was? Yes.
Yeah, that's what he's done.
Yeah.
Welcome to the conversation
we've been having
for three minutes.
Thank you, Al.
Thanks for joining us, Al.
Yo,
why don't they just share
the same blend?
Why are they beefing overnight?
Like, that's just stupid.
I don't know what you're saying.
We edited that part out.
Oh, fuck.
Yes.
Geez.
Now,
oh, what was the conversation? we edited that part out oh fuck yes now oh
what was the conversation
when have
when have Christians
thought the world
was gonna end
they
there's every five years
some Christian guy's like
hey the world is ending
we can't do this
with the some Christian guy
there's only
two Christians that count
who
the Catholics
let's go
18
the Orthodox it's like the NFC and the AFC Catholics are not the best I didn't say that I just said Two Christians that count. Who? The Catholics. Let's go 18.
The Orthodox.
It's like the NFC and the AFC.
Catholics are not the best.
I didn't say that.
I just said the Catholics and the Orthodox.
And whatever groups in America support me are the ones that they count.
And whatever ones are against me, it's not real Christian.
Have the Catholics predicted end times yet?
Yes.
I don't, honestly.
The Pope is sucking on feet.
Bitch feet at that.
He got bitch feet in his mouth.
Yeah, that seems
like a buzzer beater
a little bit.
That seems like
a buzzer beater.
He knows it's over.
He's like,
I gotta get these toes
sucked before I'm out of here.
Catholic answer,
yes, we are in the end times
a year and a half ago.
Yeah, we are in the end times.
What does that mean even?
We've been in the end times.
Yeah.
That's the beauty
of being vague.
You know what I mean? Exactly. Yes, exactly like you said. You've been in that in time. Yeah. That's the beauty of being vague. You know what I mean?
Exactly.
Yes, exactly like you said.
You just move the goalposts.
Ah, it's coming.
That's it.
We're here.
We're close.
Close can be a thousand years.
Yes.
All are welcome to sing in the choir of God, okay?
So when your time comes, you just let me know.
Facts.
Okay, can we talk about some real fucking issues that we don't care about?
Yeah.
I want to have real issues that we don't care about conversation.
Mark, can you spit off some real issues that we don't care about?
I mean, does someone want to fucking take one off?
Yes.
Ready?
I want to talk about Russell Simmons' daughter dating an older man.
I just, yeah.
I'm sick and tired of older men being shamed for achieving their goal in life.
Do you think that guy
made millions upon millions of dollars
to date a woman his age?
No, not at all.
Are people judging the guy?
Those guys are idiots.
If you're judging the guy,
that's it.
Yeah, you should judge the girl.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're the one making the bad decisions.
No, they're judging the guy.
They're judging her dad.
Oh, well, it's her dad. There's many reasons guy. They're judging her dad. Oh, well, it's her dad.
There's many reasons.
Are we finally judging her dad?
Did he have to flee the country?
He's in Bali because he's a...
He's actually...
Actively avoiding judges in America.
If you want to talk about judgment.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should be judged.
Yes.
He should be judged.
The idea that she would do anything different.
Her mom was 21 and he was like 44. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He should be judged. Yes. He should be judged. The idea that she would do anything different. Yeah.
Her mom was 21 and he was like 44. When they got married, I think that their mom was like 15 or something like that when they started dating.
Or 17 when they started.
Something insane.
Allegedly.
These are all legends.
But also that picture is not the most flattering.
You got a side boob popping.
This is not good.
This is not great.
She got her mom's body.
No, her mom was stacked. Oh, she was? Yeah, her mom was stacked. But she got her dad's body. great she got her mom's body nah her mom was stacked
oh she was
yeah her mom was stacked
but she got her dad's body
she might got her dad's body
like a surfboard
yo
Jesus Christ
we're not shaming young women
we're not shaming young women
this is a young
impressionable woman Al
and look how handsome
he is in that shot
right there
and he looks so handsome
when he's got the tuxedo
they really took
the worst possible picture
that must be one of the worst things
about being famous
is going to the beach
and having people
take pictures of you shirtless.
Yeah.
It's horrible.
For real.
It's disgusting what we do
to multi-millionaires
when they say parts.
Why can't they have some privacy
on their island that they stole?
Can't they bang children in peace?
Yeah.
The one island that there was no indigenous people
that they built up invested a lot of infrastructure and money in so they can have a paradise in the
caribbean yeah why why why on earth can they not just enjoy their time there if i was this guy
i'd be like criticize me for that shit but just like oh my shirt's off and i just ate and i'm
leaning over and i'm picking up something and i look stupid doing it he doesn't care he really doesn't care that guy like he's at this she's 18 how old is
she 21 she's 21 years old she's getting cracked by this guy who's fucking 60 whatever it is what
it is 65 yeah she but listen this this is the life this is the life she's chosen
here's a question isn't she rich like what is the upside
for her is he that much more rich than her family is because russell simmons i mean he was predatory
in business i assume made a lot of money yeah but i don't think i don't think rich women oh no you're
right the uncle rush card was fucking let's help the community fucking savage uh. I don't think that rich women still want to pay for things.
I just feel like she could
find a less rich guy
that's 40 and still be fine.
You know what I mean?
What if he's got an awesome personality?
Don't laugh.
He's probably charming. What if he's so funny
and charming? He's like the Joe Secchi's guy.
Come on, dude.
He's so funny.
What if he's got an awesome personality? Who gives a fuck? You think he's like the joseki's guy come on this is so funny he's got an awesome who gives a
fun you think he's a funny grandpa 65 they might have fun grandpas have awesome personality they
go see movies she chooses popcorn giving her a war there's a couple of weeks yeah crazy who knows
bro but i just yeah i mean here's what i felt like she doesn't have the parental guidance for
anybody because her her mom's
in to fucking
flee the country
yep
her mom
that's a mom
her mom did the same thing
did the same thing
so it's like
who's gonna be like
hey don't do this
yeah
yeah it seems like
the right thing to do
to be honest
she could be with a guy
that's like her father
and it would be way worse
so much worse
so I feel like
yeah this guy wasn't accused
of raping a lot of women
yeah exactly
this is an upgrade exactly like the apple does fall far from the tree thank god yeah So much worse. Yeah, this guy wasn't accused of raping a lot of women. Yeah, exactly.
This is an upgrade.
Exactly.
Like, the apple does fall far from the tree.
Thank God.
Yeah.
How do we know that she isn't raping him?
And she hasn't gotten that from her father.
Whoa.
Allegedly.
That's a good point.
How do we not know that her father's rap genes have been passed down to her? And then she's out here raping millionaires in St. Barts.
Oh, my God.
This poor guy's a prisoner.
She's got him shackled down somewhere just raping him all night.
This guy started Serafina, some of the greatest thin crust pizza New York has ever seen.
He started Serafina?
Serafina.
Yo, I love this guy.
I know you love Serafina.
Hey, yo, jump.
It's horrible Italian food.
You would love it.
Jump.
I love this guy.
And now he's out there in his mansion in St. Barts getting raped up every single day driving
a Suzuki Jiminy to breakfast.
Guy can't even drive a Suzuki Jiminy to breakfast without getting ripped by Russell Simmons' daughter allegedly.
Oh, man.
This poor girl.
She's being punished.
She's a great guy, dude.
Reverse Epstein.
She's a great guy.
She keeps on banging these old dudes.
Yeah.
What did he think was going to happen?
He brought this girl to his home thinking she was going to clean it.
Turns out, she's with him.
What an insane turn of events.
Fuck.
Thinking she was going to clean it.
He didn't think that he was hiring her
to, for example,
a sexual consultant of some sort.
Oh, my God.
This is just...
I didn't know it started with Serafina.
Yo, shouts.
They used to cater for,
what's that comedy club that used to be good?
Stand Up New York.
Ah, yes.
R.I.P. Stand Up New York.
I never actually ate it, but I love it.
R.I.P.
What a handsome guy.
Come on, stop it.
From Milan.
Dude, you know what?
This is a great relationship.
What if she's just having a fun little time with the older man?
And what if the older man is having a fun little time, too?
Why don't we look at it like that?
I approve of this relationship.
She's 21 years old.
She is an adult.
She can go to war, right?
That's true.
She can star in OnlyFans.
Yeah.
She can go to an island and have sex with a millionaire.
And that's okay.
Yeah.
We have to accept this.
Now, we can have empathy for the millionaire and having to watch her make TikToks all day.
We can have empathy for that, right? You flew out this 21-year-old piece of vagina
and she's just driving you fucking insane all day
for a week straight.
He's paying for it right now.
He's paying for it right now.
He's like, never again.
All the blogs are covering him
because she wants to go online.
Get ready with me while I suck this 65-year-old's dick.
So this is, I think we have to have more empathy for the men in these situations. ready with me while I suck this 65-year-old's dick. So this is,
I think we have to have more empathy
for the men in these situations.
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
Okay, that was a good one.
Okay, what else do we got, guys?
You guys want to talk WWE?
Yeah, we can talk WWE.
I got filled in.
So I was seeing the WrestleMania tweets.
Were y'all seeing it all day Sunday?
I know what's going on.
My brother loves wrestling.
I called him.
I got like a 30 minute breakdown.
Yeah.
And these motherfuckers are some of the greatest storytellers in the history,
at least in my lifetime.
I don't know if I like the way they build up.
So this guy named Roman Reigns,
he is actually the Rock's cousin.
It's like a wrestling family,
like a lineage.
WWE for years was trying to build this guy up as like a good guy.
I think I'm like John Cena and fans didn't really like him.
There's also this interesting thing with wrestling fans where WWE kind of acknowledges it's fake now,
and the fans kind of analyze it like we analyze Game of Thrones, like the story.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're critical of him.
They don't really like him.
COVID happens, and then he, over COVID, when they're not wrestling, develops.
He's like, I'm going to develop this bad guy character that's like really nuanced
goes to Vince McMahon
and is like
either you let me turn heel
or I quit
cause this shit is not working
oh wow
so he develops this whole like
he's like a mafia boss
or something
and like all of his family
that's wrestlers
he still has three cousins wrestling
calls it the bloodline
right
and then people start
fucking loving him
they're like yo
this guy
this character is great
he becomes champion
it's undefeated for four years.
Or he holds the belt for four years almost.
And then The Rock comes back, and there's this other guy, Corey Rhodes, that has his own backstory that I don't think is as worth getting into.
But fans really want him to get the belt.
Last year, they think he's going to get it at WrestleMania.
He loses.
Everybody's livid.
And WWE's like, just trust us.
We got this.
They build it up for another year. Almost four years, they're building, just trust us. We got this. They build it up
for another year.
Almost four years
they're building up
this fucking storyline.
Some Avengers shit.
Yeah, just,
and then there's,
I'm sure it's building,
other things are happening,
but like adding more pieces,
developing the nuance.
The Rock comes back
and he is initially
gonna fight this guy,
Roman Reigns,
for the title.
Because he's the biggest,
that's the biggest views.
But then the fans are
so upset the rock is like you know what fuck it let these two guys fight cory rhodes i think his
name cody and cody and roman reigns and i'm gonna turn heel which is crazy my brother put this in
perspective think about being a borderline billionaire movie star yeah and be like nah
i'm gonna be hated yeah like the girl like apparently there's this little girl crying on video,
like, I can't believe The Rock is a bad person.
Why is he doing this?
Because they don't know.
Oh, don't talk about Meek like that.
Get out, Rock.
Meek, you're making it so hard, bro.
You're making it so hard for us to defend you.
We were all Meek in that moment, bro.
We wanted to get out.
But then they, I watched the, there's like a...
Get out, Rocky!
Come on, Rock, get out. So, they, I watched the, there's like a, get up, Rocky! Come on, Rocky!
So, Mark,
there's a seven minute clip.
I watched five minutes,
I saw a five minute clip
of like,
they bring out John Cena,
they bring out The Rock,
The Undertaker makes an appearance
and the way they fucking deliver
with every one of these massive cameos,
it's like perfect.
You're watching it.
I don't even,
I don't know any of this wrestling shit
I'm watching this
when The Undertaker
comes on
I'm like
I'm so hyped
do you want to see
the highlights
yeah
I don't know what
we can play in the full
but just to get the vibe
so they bring out
like every
Hall of Fame
potential goat wrestler
they bring them back
if they can for this
and then they have
this guy Cody Rhodes win
and again
gears in the making
and then this guy
Roman Reigns
they love him so much as the girl is announcing the new champion have this guy cody rhodes win and again gears in the making and then this guy roman reigns
they love him so much as the girl is announcing the new champion like roman's losing the title and they kind of think this is the beginning of him retiring she's literally crying as she's
making the announcement like everybody's so invested in the story with they all acknowledge
it's fake basically everybody's aware it's fake. And it's just like character development, storytelling.
It's fucking unbelievable.
My respect for wrestling skyrocketed after just watching these five minutes and my brother filling me in.
Like Roman Reigns is a superstar because he was like, hey, here's how I'm going to develop a character that's going to have nuance to it.
And apparently he's like very different than just like the over the top heels that we grew up watching.
It's like a lot of like manipulates people. And heels that we grew up watching right it's like a lot of
he like manipulates people
and it's like almost like watching
it's almost like cinematic
and then there are obviously
freak athletes
and then he also said
Logan Paul is like amazing
as a wrestler
and fans want to hate him
but even the people are like
yeah he still sucks as a person
but he's fucking good at this
yeah
Speed came out
he got more KO'd
yeah they just like went so fucking hard at this yeah Speed came out he got more KO'd yeah they just like
went so fucking hard
for this thing
where was it
Philly
over two nights too
now it's over two nights
when we were kids
it's one night
so over two nights
so they don't just build
for years with Story
they build
to the second night
they have one night
shit is gonna happen
of course
but that's just building
more hype
if you're a real wrestling fan
you're going to both
you're going to both
there's no way
they fucking deliver like to build the hype and then deliver is one of the hardest things but that's just building more hype. If you're a real wrestling fan, you're going to both. You're going to both. There's no way that you'll never win.
Like to build the hype
and then deliver
is one of the hardest things.
And they just apparently nailed it.
And they've transitioned pretty quickly
into not having Vince McMahon
involved at all.
Well, apparently the Triple H took over.
You remember Hunter?
Apparently he took it to new heights.
Him and Roman Reigns together
like really took it to
and by every metric.
Really?
I mean, yeah,
we don't just necessarily watch as much
because there's so many,
but like online impressions,
I think pay-per-views for this
were the highest ever.
Like by every metric,
it's never been more popular.
Wow.
Crazy.
Did you watch it growing up as a kid?
I watched it for like two, three years.
Probably we all watched the same time.
The Rockies were crazy.
The Rock.
The Rock was,
you would be like,
hey man, what do you want to eat for dinner? And then the guy would start answering. the sun the rock was you would be like hey man uh what do you want
to eat for dinner and then the guy would start answering it doesn't matter what all we did was
live as the rock it was an unbelievable time yeah it was incredible and then the suck it shit yeah
it was fantastic i went to one when i was a kid really i was really young and uh it was out in
new jersey it was cool i got to see The Ultimate Warrior. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was Ultimate Warrior and then Undertaker
I think they fought or something like that.
But yeah, it was really cool.
I mean, completely sold out. It's a massive arena.
You're just watching wrestling.
And this was back in the day. I'm sure it's the same now.
But the first few matches,
you don't really know the guys.
And they're just doing interesting stuff,
physical stuff, but the storylines aren't that, like, pervasive.
But the headline matches were always really interesting.
And, like, that music hits and just...
Different.
It goes crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah, it just goes crazy.
They've really got this now.
What do you mean that they say that it's fake now?
So, apparently, my brother told me, like,
when they were saying there were sports,
there's, like, all these regulations you gotta go through.
You gotta go through commissions. There's taxes you gotta pay. And Vince publicly was like all these regulations you got to go through. You got to go through commissions.
You got to, there's taxes you got to pay.
And Vince publicly was like, you know what?
It's fake.
This is entertainment.
And then you don't have to go through nearly as many hurdles.
We like it more knowing that it's fake.
Yeah.
And I think it's, I think he was like,
everybody knows anyway.
Now my brother said he went to one of these things
and he was sitting up top and he was like,
kind of shocked how many people still believed it's real.
But online and the online community of wrestling is going to be huge but
believing it's believing it's real is like believing uh avengers no actually i would i
would say believing reality tv is is more plausible believing it's real is like believing avengers and
that like we know that this is a movie but we are submitting ourselves to the movie so when
someone we care about dies we get emotional when something really awesome happens we get excited
yeah and we know it's all fake we know it's all orchestrated but it doesn't matter we are
submitting ourselves to the story and that's the power of story to what you were saying is they've
really it seems like they've really gotten into the story of these characters and now i'm just
believing the characters and the wrestling is an excuse
to tell the story.
Whereas when...
Non-gay soap opera. If you're a guy,
you don't feel embarrassed about watching the soap opera.
And then when we were down in Mexico, we were watching
that Lucha Libre. To me,
and again, there might be stories that are built
in for generations and yeah, I don't know.
But for me, it seemed
like it was much more about the
acrobatics yeah the sport yes where it was just like the choreography was insane there's three
people and there's like three on three matches the whole time and it was really awesome what
they were doing but i don't even know if they talked yeah but i i don't remember if they were
talking at all yeah but it was really awesome. The choreography was awesome,
but a little bit different than this,
where it's like all that cheering
and insane explosions of the reactions
came from one chokeslam.
Yeah.
It's just tension.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so cool.
Okay, what else we got, my boys?
I wonder how much Rock gets for coming back.
Apparently, I think he's involved. He's like a full board member or something he's like up there with the company
that acquired wwe tko or something they're called i could be wrong about that but he so that's
yeah and then it was it was kind of cool to just be like you know what i'm getting pushback on
being the main event even though i'm gonna get the most so let's just have some fun i'm gonna
turn heel and apparently he's really good as a heel like wrestling fans who are in the story are like he's fucking great as this and
better than he is as dwayne johnson like he's great at this apparently cussing like to the
point that they're having to edit him a bunch and it's just like what's going on here but he's just
in it and they love that well he also played a villain or he played black adam it was like the
first villain he did ah yeah so it might be like
he started as a heel
he started heel
he started heel
but he was so funny
that people just
loved him
they had to build
into the storyline
that he was
because I remember
he was supposed to be
a heel
but he gets such a big pop
that I was like 14
I'm watching
I'm like
they can't keep
I remember being like
they can't keep him
as a bad guy right
like he's
we love him
yeah
he's so funny.
That's the power of funny.
He just won off of humor.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That was a stone cold.
What else we got, boys?
I mean,
we can talk about
the squatter thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What's up with the squatter?
The squatter thing
is interesting, dude.
The squatter thing
is very interesting.
Have you heard about this?
Yeah.
No, I've had to deal with it.
Oh, okay.
So, like,
it just is, like, a huge thing. I was even looking it up to see like, what is going on? Like,
it's just like super popular, especially as of last month, like it's being covered everywhere.
And like the headlines are crazy. Like there's a bunch of headlines where it's like,
man prevents family from retiring and dream home with Down syndrome son,
like squatter prevents a family from retiring their dream home like man wins a dead woman's home uh and like there's just like insane stories of like this
beverly hills mansion across the street from lebron james that's like overrun with like
squatters that are using it's like party it's so it's a four million dollar property wow so just
so we can you know kind of explain and like uh you know set the tone of
this conversation everybody should know what squatting is if you don't there are i guess some
sort of protections for this shit goes deep yeah i did not realize yeah like complicated and nuanced
this is so a squatter is somebody that goes and lives in a home that's not theirs yeah that's how
it's understood that's what's understood now it appears that there are some protections for people that do this yes okay break it down so there's a
bunch of things so this one is just funny i just bring this up because it's like the most crazy
example this is literally in the middle of beverly hills if you look at like the map of people around
him it's like lebron james like john legend is right there yeah and the guy's hilarious he's
like this italian dude one all-night bash drew 645 revelers and didn't end until 9 a.m.
Was this turned into a nightclub, essentially?
Better than that.
It's a mansion.
You know, I mean, it was classier than that, I would say.
But this was basically a party house, you know?
At some point, yeah.
I mean, it's so funny.
This is a nightclub.
He's like, it's not a nightclub i'm not
a fucking animal and then they ask the guy they're like so are you gonna stay here for a while he's
like no i might move on to something nicer maybe you get a different mansion or something like that
this dude's hilarious but there's just a bunch of these happening all over the country that people
are talking about so how does it happen it goes all the way back to the medieval ages medieval
times feudal times yeah yeah literally like i didn't realize this shit went so far back it goes
back even farther than that.
Like, there's, like, rules in, like, Roman law about, like, how to deal with, like, land disputes.
Okay.
So, basically, it's this thing called adverse possession.
Okay.
So, hypothetically, we're two, like, nobles back in medieval England, right?
We have, like, a bunch of land that's near each other.
And we're talking, like, hundreds of acres that's, like, just sort of, like, given to you from, like, you inherited it, whatever.
Yeah.
And, like, in between your land, there's there's like some land that no one's using it's just like not being you can't go all the way over there it's like hundreds of acres
away it's like and no one's looking at it no one's seeing it yeah so what they kind of had was like
common grounds where like if some dude just kind of came by and like set up a house there
he could just kind of like use the land and And if you never said anything about it, over a certain period of time, it would just become his. And kind of the reason this would
happen is like, you basically have a guy that lives there. He builds up a house. He has a bunch
of kids. His kids have kids. Also, now he's a community of like a hundred people in a tiny
little village, hundreds of miles away from anyone. It prevents the nobles, like great
grandson from pulling up and like, Hey, this this is actually mine it basically gives them the right to say hey we've been here
for 50 years i don't know anything about you my great great grandfather was on this land this land
is ours and it gives them the protection to say like if you're here and no one says shit about it
for a certain period of time you can have it this is yeah and it sounds ridiculous but think about it there is a time where literally all the land was owned by how many nobles are there you have the
kingdom and then you have the nobles so let's just call it 50 people maybe it's less and they just
parceled up all the land they're not even using it they're not even looking at it. So it does kind of make sense in a way to create some democratization of the land that you let other people have the right to squash.
And it basically gives an incentive to use it or lose it, basically.
Yes.
So use the land, make something out of it.
And if you're not really doing anything about it and you don't say anything, then someone else that's using it, the government will be like, yeah, we like this community.
So was this written into law by the kingdom why would the kingdom because the kingdom
was like i could just fucking take all this land it was basically understood as british common law
yeah and like the british like the british royal at the time i think it was like henry the first
or some shit was basically like we're gonna permit this because like these peasants need
some place to go okay yeah but if they did want to take your land they still would probably yeah
but i like this idea like to a certain extent, use it or lose it.
Let's say you have hundreds and hundreds of thousands and thousands of acres.
We're talking about huge swaths of land.
A state.
You're not seeing other people.
It's an entire state.
You're not even seeing somebody.
You don't even know that they're on your land.
Do you just get to keep that because you guys declared it years ago?
You just happen to be a noble person.
And you're a great, great grandfather.
You've been here five generations.
And so then it kind of extends even to modern America,
where it's like, let's say you have two ranchers, right?
And they have two ranches.
Again, we're talking hundreds, thousands of acres right next to each other.
And you build a fence, and it kind of is hard to demarcate
exactly where one land starts and one land ends.
Let's say it's over 100 feet, and it stays like that for you know 50 years and all of a sudden you look at the title and
you're like wait a second our land is 50 feet over that way that's like you know 30 acres that's
ours you can't then go and be like hey give it to us because basically you've said like this fence
is here enough time has passed you haven't said anything about it so tough shit this is how
brooklyn and queens got separated there's no reason
why they should be separated it's literally one island it's just a dumb line that goes like crazy
down certain streets in brooklyn and queens but it was the dutch and the english couldn't settle
there's two people basically the dutch of bushwick and the english of ridgewood or what a vice versa
they had a big argument and they literally could not find the middle ground and then they found a
rock called
Arbitration Rock
because the government
was finally like,
we gotta start
putting lines down
and keeping these people
away from each other
and they made a rock
the middle point
of Brooklyn and Queens.
Weird.
Wow.
And so for certain
people...
That rock's still there?
Yep.
Oh, fire.
Now that is frustrating
that ranch shit
just because someone
put the fucking fence wrong
to keep the land.
But you gotta say
something about it. You gotta be like, like wait a second this fence is actually wrong
and if it's within like most places have like 20 or 30 year windows but aren't we incentivizing
people to put the fence wrong yeah this happens in in common like in florida all the time people
put their fence on that side of someone's property line and if they can hold it for 20 years they get
another two feet but that's also i don't love this just because
we're incentivizing people to take advantage of their neighbor but you could then just be like
hey you took my shit and then take it to a civil court and then the court be like yeah they have
to move it and then they're fined or sure but now i now the burden is on me to hire a lawyer
to spend money because this person did something that was it's a net loss either way unethical
i don't gain two feet on their side if they do it. If there was a
punishment like, hey, if you do this and you're wrong,
you lose two feet. They have to pay to
pull the fence up and shit. But basically, that's
the law. They have to pay to put it there.
Yeah, there's still no gain. They should pay to pull the fence up.
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The law prevents like squabbling after a certain period of time. So if you didn't say shit for 30 years, it's like,
we're not going to go back and forth and waste resources to try to figure this out. It just is.
But let's say, for example, again, I'm just trying to, to me, the issue is not the guy who makes the
mistake. The issue is that now the system has incentivized, let's say we own this big ranch
land, right? You and I both were neighbors,
and you just go,
hey, Schultz, I want to set up just like a fence
because I have some sheep that I want to keep in.
I don't want them going onto your land.
I know that you protect your land.
You keep it a certain way.
I just want to do it.
And I go, oh, that's a great idea, Mark.
You propose the plan.
I agree with the proposed plan.
Then you go put in the fence,
and then you have this new plan
where you're taking another 30 acres from me.
I'm agreeing to your proposed plan, but I'm not walking in there and checking every single stump. I don't know.
You're so incentivized to fuck me by the law, where the law should be punishing people that fuck their neighbors over.
I don't know exactly, but I think there are punishments if you lose in civil court.
You're fine, and I think you then
have to like settle
with the person
you stole from
yeah you should have
to give them something
it should
that's how I understand
if you can prove
that someone did it
on purpose
this should be viewed
as theft
yeah and I think it is
and I think you
and that's grand larceny
that's jail
depending on the amount
of land that was stolen
it's really fucked up
anyway go on
so there's some
periods of time
where people actually
like squatters
post world war 2 in England the whole allondon is bombed you have all these
baby boomers coming home and basically you have like a housing crisis and so these british people
are then finding like dilapidated like derelict homes that got bombed they're kind of just like
pulling up fixing it turning into like livable communities and people are like wow look at the
british people they're not. They're actually like industrious
and making the best of their situation.
So for a period,
they were like praised.
And then what about the,
what are the people that own those homes
that were bombed do?
Well, that's where I fucking just died.
So it's like,
no one is looking after this.
We don't know whose it is.
Like there's not like record keeping
that's perfect.
It's all on paper.
They got burned in some like firebombing. What, who's, what is it? Okay. I get, so I'm not even looking at that as a
squatter. I only see a squatter as somebody who is living in a home or area or space that is owned
by someone else. That's what actual squatting is. Right. So for it to be considered actual squatting
needs five things, sometimes six needs to be hostile. This one's actually interesting. You have to take it without some type
of contract or some type of understanding that it's owned by someone else. So you can't have
a lease and then overstay it. That's no longer a squatter. That's like a holdover tenant. So it
has to be hostile where you don't have some type of written agreement. It has to be actual. You
have to be living there and improving the place and living as if you were the owner paying taxes and shit open and notorious
you can't be hiding or like being protective you have to just be like walking around doing shit
like how you normally would continuous it has to be the full length of the time you can't just show
up like once a year and then some in some places it has to be in good faith meaning that you have
to have some type of reasonable reason that you can present in front of a judge that you would get this land or you would get this home. Right. So
those are like the five things like Louisiana has an interesting one where it's like, you just need
to basically have it for 30 years uninterrupted and you can keep it. Like theirs is like even
more loose and it exists because it gives ownership. It basically like, there's a bunch
of reasons. It gives a statute of limitations to like like, land squabbling back in the day.
Right.
It makes people kind of, like, cure minor defects within, like, a lease.
Let's say, like, you sell me a piece of land and you're like, yeah, it's everything including the lake or including the pond.
Yeah.
And then in the title it gets fucked up and it doesn't include the pond, but I keep the land.
Yeah.
And if no one says anything about the pond, then the pond is mine after 30 years just because it was originally in the verbal contract there but not in the land yeah and if no one says anything about the pond then the pond is mine
after 30 years just because it was originally in the verbal contract there but not in the title
got it so like settles up like that minor little thing and then also like it gives that productivity
of land thing use it or lose it so what's happening now is nothing to do with squatting got it so all
of these stories that people are looking at are called squatter's rights, but it's not squatter's law. They're basically taking advantage of a system that people did find advantageous for potentially everybody.
And now they're just using it in their favor legally.
Kind of.
Like it's barely even that because it's basically just like tenant rights.
Which basically has nothing to do.
So whenever people call squatter's rights, it's sort of a misnomer.
Right, because squatting seems so much more salacious just a random stranger breaks into your home and just it's a term that makes so much sense yeah we call them squatters
yeah it paints a picture in your head yeah so it makes sense but under the law like i don't think
there's any like clear legal definition okay so all these stories are they're they're interesting
so it's like the story that people are talking about is like, okay, you go on vacation for
three weeks and then someone pulls up in your house and then they can just live there and
you can't get them out.
And then the government fucks you.
That's like what the story is.
Some of the stories are even like some woman went out for groceries and then came back
and someone was living in her house and then she couldn't get them out.
Yeah.
These don't sound real.
Yeah.
The first, that one is not real.
Like you can basically call the police and be like, Hey, there's a breaking and entering.
Yeah. The police show up and they're like hey are you the
tenant that lives here and the guy's like yes i am and they're like oh can you just show me your id
show me a piece of mail show me a lease show me anything and if they don't have that they'll get
arrested immediately it's just breaking and entering so like the law protects that yeah
and so basically in new york you have a thing where if you live in a place for over 30 days
then that's when they get tenant rights. Even if you are living there illegally?
Yes. Like let's say, for example, I went on vacation, somebody moved into my home. I come
back after 30 days. I mean, that's crazy short. They get tenant rights. They get tenant rights.
And then what is the justification for that? I'm assuming it basically protects people from
having like oral agreements. So you go on vacation and you're like, yeah, Mark, you can stay in my place.
Jerk off my shower, whatever you want to do.
And then you leave and you can't just come back and be like, this guy's blah, blah, blah.
He's in my place.
And it's like, dude, you told me I could stay here for six months.
Write up a contract.
Like, that's an easy solution.
But then you tear up the contract.
This is back in the day when it's like a piece of paper.
You can just tear it up.
You can lose the contract.
So this is a law that needs to be changed, basically?
Yeah, a lot of people are suggesting that. Yeah. The 30 day tenancy law and then
tenant rights would be like you can't turn off the electricity you can't turn off the water you can't change the locks.
Back in the day. That's the shit that sucks. Yeah so it's like
if you're a landlord you still have to even if this person is
squatting or just staying there unlawfully you still have to keep
the electricity on you still have to maintain the place. If you stop doing any of those things, now you're in violation
of their rights and they can, one, stay there longer and make a case for not having to pay
because- And is the justification for this innocent until proven guilty? In other words,
if somebody is there for a certain amount of time time the state assumes that they have a legal reason to be there and until that is disputed in court yes got it okay okay okay whereas if you're
the landlord you know if somebody is living there illegally but but based on our justice system
they cannot assume that this person is breaking the law and the cops pull up yes the cops pull
up and then you have mail that's in your name with the address. And you maybe have like a fake lease or something.
And the police are like, we can't take this person out.
We can't evict them.
So now this is a civil matter that has to be taken care of.
And then until it's taken care of in court, you get to stay there and live there.
Got it.
Okay.
Now I understand how it's taking advantage of our justice system with the assumption of innocence.
I understand why those rights exist.
And there used to be no tenant laws, and tenants used to get fucked all the time.
Yes.
Some guy would be like, oh, I don't like you because—
Get the fuck out.
Yeah, oh, you're dating a black girl.
Yeah.
Like, I'm a racist dude.
Fuck you.
I'm turning your electricity off.
Get the fuck out of my place.
Hey, your kids are too loud.
They're screaming. They're waking people up. Turn the water up. Get the fuck out. I'm a racist dude. Fuck you. I'm turning your electricity off. Get the fuck out of my place. Hey, your kids are too loud. They're screaming.
They're waking people up.
Get the fuck out.
I'm sorry.
Right.
So these laws in New York,
I imagine around the country,
they had to be created to protect people
that were being put under abusive conditions
by their landlords.
Like unions.
Right.
Necessary.
There were potentially abusive conditions
and you want to protect these people.
Yeah.
That kind of makes sense.
Some cases people even get scammed.
So like what this guy with the mansion is kind of alleging is like you go out of town for two months.
Let's say you leave for six months.
You're going to your fucking other house, whatever, right?
Someone comes in.
They change all the locks.
They get mail delivered.
They're now squatting.
And then they find someone to say, hey, I'm going to give you a lease for the place.
I'm the owner. Do you want a great deal on a on a apartment oh fuck and so now a family let's say a
couple or a single mom and her kid are now getting put into an apartment oh i'm the guy who originally
who originally swatted yeah but because they have tenants rights now so now the you come back and
you're like yo why the fuck you in my house they're like what it's not your house i'm paying
money steve's house and he gave me the lease and you're like, yo, why the fuck are you in my house? And they're like, it's not your house. I'm paying money. This is Steve's house and he gave me the lease.
And you're like, no, it's my house.
And then it's like, what are we doing?
I've been living here for four months while you were gone.
And I have to assume that you're innocent.
So we will bring this to the courts and the courts will decide.
That person kind of is innocent because they didn't know they were breaking the law.
Yeah, I just didn't realize how important the presumption of innocence is in these cases.
Because we're all looking at these people like they are bad people you're living in a place that is not yours you're
fucking over this land some people do do that yeah of course i imagine the majority of the
most salacious stories that we hear about are in the example of this the stories that you hear on
the news like this guy is just broke into this home he's not paying any money refuses to leave
and this is this is this person's retirement and now he's forced to
go back and get a job at walmart because he can't pay his bills because he's got the squatter that's
that story yeah but there are these stories where people are taken advantage of and they have these
tense rights okay this is good this is good this is good keep going so then how do you evict someone
after they take over your place there's a bunch of ways it happens like covid kind of exacerbated
the issue because then there were all these moratoriums on eviction right airbnb caused a lot lot of problems because someone would get an Airbnb, get it for three days, pay the 500 bucks, and then just not leave.
Oh, then just stay there.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Yeah, yeah.
You got that.
That happened to Alex.
And that happens all the time.
Now, in order for that person to not be evicted, they have to be there for more than 30 days.
Yeah.
And in your circumstance, they were there for more than 30.
Yeah.
And then how long did they rent it?
I made the mistake.
They did Airbnb for a week.
And then?
And then they were like, yo, I'll hit you direct and you'll make more money.
And then so after we did that, he just paid me for a week.
And then he's like, ah, I'm not paying anymore.
And I was like, all right, get out.
He's like, no, I'm not going anywhere.
Was he there for more than 30 days?
He was there for six months.
No, no.
I mean, before he told you he's not leaving.
Yeah, by that time.
Yeah, I think it hit a month by that time.
So he knew what he was doing.
He knew the game.
He was playing.
He has to get to a month.
Once he's there for a month and he's getting mail, he has all these things done.
And he started off super nice, super like, oh, I was like, oh, great tenant.
I didn't think that he would try to fuck me over because he was super nice. And the house started off super nice, super like, oh, I was like, oh, great tenant. I didn't think that
he would try to fuck me over because he was like super nice.
And the house was fucked when he left, right?
Yeah.
Everything was trash,
fucking cigarette butts everywhere.
It was disgusting. Wow.
Fucked me up for six months. Wow.
It's a bitch. So like in order
to evict someone in New York, you have to file
a formal eviction notice. Ten day notice on the door. Basically say like, hey, get the fuck out. If they ignore that, then there's a bitch so like in order to evict someone in New York you have to file a formal eviction notice 10 day notice on the door
basically say like
hey get the fuck out
if they ignore that
then there's a petition
for special proceedings
they have to go to a court
yeah
look at Al getting PTSD
as you're bringing all this in
bro
it was so bad
the squatter has to appear in court
they either appear
and then the judge
almost always rules
not in favor of the squatter
like it's very rare
for a squatter to get it
because like we said
you have to have
all of these other things to classify as a squatter like it's very rare for a squatter to get it because like we said you have to have all of these other things to yeah classify as a squatter
my shit is getting emails i don't know um but a lot of times they will make up a reason why they
need to postpone the date so they just push it further yeah filibuster now you got to take off
of work you got to stop your life to make sure you show up because if you don't show up yeah
usually it's costing you money and you're paying for utilities and you're paying for gas and so this is
so interesting and they're fucking up your whole house yep and they're almost incentivized to fuck
up the house because if they fuck it up you might be like yo it's not worth it it's not worth it to
what to keep fighting take this back like you fucked it up so bad i'm gonna take it back i'm
gonna pay fifty thousand dollars in repairs yeah i just don't want so there are some people that actually give up the home i guess it's just not worth but you
would still have to pay back the mortgage right because that's a loan from the bank it depends
like who knows maybe you inherit the house it's worth like fifty thousand you have a ton of money
it's like some shitty shack the guy's a drug addict he keeps it trashes it and you're like
i'm gonna have to pour a hundred to even get this it's not Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm out. This is a time where you understand why Texas is so pro-gun.
Yeah.
And they got, like, castle doctrine and shit.
You can just, like, pull up and be like, yo, get the fuck out.
Get the fuck out.
Yeah.
It's really interesting, though.
So these people are taking advantage of a policy that was made to protect tenants from abusive landlords.
Yeah.
So we like the policy because there were abusive landlords.
They would just kick people out for no reason.
Yeah.
Policies are good.
Now the landlord's got to behave.
Now you've got to treat those people in there well.
And you should have a good relationship between you and the landlord because you both have a little bit of power in this circumstance.
Landlord's a piece of shit.
You could withhold pay and now this landlord's fucked and he doesn't want that.
And now you're sitting there for six months before you can even get somebody out of the home.
And now he's six months out of rent.
Think about that.
That's horrible.
Okay.
Let's be nice to each other and let's make sure that we really pick tenants
that we're going to respect and care for.
And everything's going to be good.
Symbiotic relationship.
These people come in,
they go,
Ooh,
there's really favorable tenant rules and I just need to trick them and let
me be here for a month.
Got it.
Most people don't even know this.
Yeah.
Got it. And they stay there for six months and then they bounce to another spot, stay there for six months, stay there for six months. them and letting me be here for a month got it most people don't even know this yeah got it and
they stay there for six months and then they bounce to another spot stay there for six months
stay there for six months these people are like typically criminals drug addicts mentally ill
something yeah that's interesting or they'll get a roommate and live with a roommate and then change
the locks on the roommate and be like i got your place no way yeah crazy so this happens all the
time so it's like you kind of got to try to fix the tenant rights thing without fucking over tenants.
Yeah.
And creates, like, how do you quickly find out if someone is fraudulently living there?
It's really expediting that process.
Yeah.
And the problem is when you live in a city with 8 million people, I imagine those court systems are completely backed up. There's a million different cases they're bringing. They have nothing to do with this.
Yeah.
Right? Oh my Lord.
So they're also taking advantage
of how backed up our system is.
It's not very efficient.
And how do we prove that somebody
should legally live there or not?
You can't trust the landlords in a lot of circumstances
because they're going to do anything to get people out.
And you can't trust the tenants
because they're manipulating the system like this.
And then some of them are just stuck in the crossfire.
It's like, yo, I got a lease from this guy
and now I'm in this place.
I mean, that's the craziest scenario. were actually good citizen you're a good person
you're you're paying the bills you would have paid the landlord yeah you pay cash to this guy
every single month yeah and then he leaves town and you can't get in touch with him and so as the
owner of the place you can't do anything to that person like you can't threaten them with violence
you can't how that person's innocent that can't. Wow, that person's innocent.
That shit was infuriating.
Infuriating, I can imagine.
But that is our justice system, right?
It's the presumption of innocence.
And that's why it even has to go to court.
We know this person's breaking the law.
You know they're breaking the law.
They know they're breaking the law.
It doesn't matter.
We got it on video.
We have everything that we need until the court decides that that is the case,
which, like you said,
most of the times it does decide that. Yeah. You can't do anything. Oof, that is the case, which, like you said, most of the times it does decide that,
you can't do anything.
Oof, that is...
It's wild, right?
And then why do you think that this is so popular right now?
So this is where it gets interesting.
So there's a couple things.
These articles that I read you before,
Squatter wins the house of a dead woman.
Those headlines go crazy.
If you search, like, Squatter wins home,
that's, like, 20 articles.
And it's this one dude in England,
which, again, they kind of have, like, different squatters different squatters rights laws that are like actually go back even farther this
is an actual squatters right situation so the headline is squatter wins the house of a dead
woman everyone's pissed off basically what happens is there's a guy that sees a decrepit house it's
all fucked up it's falling apart he's like a contractor working in the neighborhood and this
house is just destroyed he asked the people in the neighborhood he's like what's up with this
house and they're like oh it's been this way for like five years it's just like there contractor working in the neighborhood and this house is just destroyed he asked the people in the neighborhood he's like what's up with this house and they're like oh it's been
this way for like five years it's just like there's rats in it there's crackheads running
in and out of it like it's fucked he was like oh okay and so he kind of asked around he's trying
to see who owns it he can't get in touch with anyone this is 97 so he just starts fixing it
and he just starts building up the house and he does it over the course of like three four years
everyone's like wow this is amazing everyone in the neighborhood really likes it love it now you don't have this decrepit
crack house in your neighborhood that's pulling the property value down literally so then he
starts building up the house doesn't hear anything from anyone tries to get in touch can't get in
touch with the owner like no one knows who is actually owning it calls the bank the bank
foreclosed that he was actually like managing with he basically keeps it and then in 2012 the
owner comes back and
he's like, yo, what happened to the house? And the guy's like, oh, now the guy that originally
owned it is like 80. Basically what happened was he was living there with his mom. His mom died in
like 1990. He ends up moving and going somewhere that leaves the house to ruin. This guy finds it,
fixes it up, moves his family in there, lives in it, becomes a member of the community. And then this dude comes back and he's like, yo, give me my house back.
And the guy's like, I've been living here, bro.
You haven't been here 15 years.
Didn't the bank foreclose?
It's not his house anymore.
So technically he owned it outright,
but the bank that gave him the original loan was no longer there.
So he couldn't get in touch with whoever the actual owner was.
So it's his house, though.
So according to the law in England at the time, I think it was like 10 years.
So because he had lived in there for 10 years, it was his.
And everyone in the community was like...
I mean, he's a definitional squatter, whereas these people are not.
These are scammers.
Yeah, these people are trespassers and...
I mean, I like that this guy allegedly did the due diligence to find the dude.
Who knows if he actually did?
He might have just taken advantage of, you know, an opportunistic situation.
Yeah, but you're still building up a thing in the community.
It's good.
I don't care. If it's mine i could let now i think the community and i think in america
the community would have standards for your home for example like you have to cut your lawn
a certain that was it the hoa association like yeah so like hoas are big hey you have to make
sure the outside is more or less clean the lawn is cut you have a responsibility to your community
you can't let it become decrepit and if it does,
I think the HOA
can actually kick you
out of the community.
The city can too.
Oh, sorry.
There's like city ordinances.
Go, go, go.
The most infuriating part
was when that guy
was squatting in my place.
It was wintertime.
I still had to go over there
and shovel.
No way.
Why did you have to shovel?
Because the HOA,
I would get tickets.
I would get tickets.
Oh my God.
Bro, I was so tight. Oh no. He's inside drinking coffee while you're shoveling the age of it. I would get tickets. I would get tickets. Oh my God. Bro, I was so tight.
Oh no.
He's inside drinking coffee
while you're shoveling
the fucking front lawn.
I would have lost it.
No way.
Wow.
You got too much patience.
That's crazy.
No, I got him out.
Yeah, yeah.
That's crazy.
But yeah,
so there's a circumstance.
If you bought some shit
or you inherited whatever it is,
that is yours, bro.
Just because somebody fixed it up
don't mean he gets to keep it.
No, that's a loss. Yeah, but then I don't know about all that fixed it up don't mean he gets to keep it. That's losses.
Yeah, but then if you let it go
and now it's ruining the neighborhood,
it's like you should be penalized.
That's what I feel.
No, no, you should be responsible
and the neighborhood should be able to contact you
and tell you and give you warnings and say,
hey, if you're not going to do this,
then we are going to force you to sell the home
or whatever it is.
The bank will hold the money in escrow until you're ready ready to claim it you can't just let this house become
dilapidated but the idea that somebody can just fix your shit up without you even knowing and he
allegedly reached out to you which i don't know if i buy that years past 10 yeah i think after a
certain period i actually like that 10 years you haven't looked at it you don't value it yeah
regardless if you value it or not, it's yours.
Like, somebody in your family worked hard to get it.
You're fucking up the neighborhood.
Yeah, you're not valuing what your family worked hard for.
What I'm saying is, I agree with you.
It shouldn't be taken because he's not there for ten years.
It should be taken because of what he's doing to his neighbors for ten years.
And then go for auction or something?
Yeah, exactly. Now, like, he has enough violations of HOA. what he's doing to his neighbors for 10 years. And then for auction or something?
Yeah, exactly.
Now, like he has enough violations of HOA and then it's given up for auction
or whatever the fuck it is.
And then that money is held for him.
It's not held by the HOA, it's just held.
And then when he's ready to claim it,
he goes and claims it.
You still, I think, need to disincentivize neglect.
Which is the fines, what you would get.
That's what the HOA does.
So some people do that where some people suggest that they basically put a tax on vacant property.
That if you leave a property vacant for a certain period of time, you have an increased property tax.
And Florida kind of does the opposite where if you live in the place that you own, then you basically get like a homestead tax reduction.
And you actually like save on taxes by living in the place
because you want to
incentivize people
to live in that place
I just don't like this idea
that like you have to
go live there
especially when it's
an inherited property
you don't have to live there
you can just have a tenant
you just have to keep it up
yeah
have someone come
mow the lawn
yeah if there's some shit
leaking
have someone come fix it
what I'm saying to you guys is
whatever the standard is
for the community
you should have to
uphold that.
And if you don't, then you can go take measures to sell it.
But just because somebody else upholds the standard of the community and builds up the house doesn't mean it just becomes theirs.
I don't want to incentivize that at all.
But it's like, let's say the owner of the Empire State Building just like is like, fuck it.
I'm not doing nothing.
Yeah.
And it just becomes this decrepit building.
Of course.
In the middle of like the jewel of America.
We would, first of all, step in way before
that. The city would try to do something.
They would step in and they'd be like, listen, if you're
not going to upkeep this building, we're going to keep on
fining you and eventually get to the point where you're not
paying the fines, we're going to auction off this
building. And then whatever that building makes
after it pays off all the fines and all
the money that the city had to invest to
upkeep it, can go into an account
and that is held for
you. And it's going to be way less than if you built it up real nice and sold it, but that is
your money. It's not the city's money. So you're basically saying the city can seize it, but a
person can't seize it. Yes. And by seizing it, they're only, they're selling it. So they're not
taking it away. They're selling it for whatever value is there. And then you get to keep that
value, but they're basically, or they're forcing you to sell it. And if the first thing is what people do
when they kick you out of a community, right? I think like Nicki Minaj and her husband is a child
sex offender. So she had to, she got, I think, kicked out of her community in LA. Did you guys
see that story? Or like the community stepped up and they're like, we don't want a sex offender
living in our area. So I think they forced them to sell their home.
So they had to sell their home.
Now, if they're not willing to sell, I imagine it goes to court,
and then maybe the court rules that they have to because the community said,
and then they forcefully sell it, but they still get the money for their home.
You enjoy the value going back to the person who owned it.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I just think that's fair.
I agree with you.
I don't mind it not going back at a certain point.
To me, a lot of it is just tied into the duration.
Like 10 years of neglect is a long time of neglect.
And my issue with the tenant's rights in New York is 30 days is not enough to be like,
no, I live here, you can't get me out.
If that time was a year and squatter's rights is 10 years, I'm okay with both as if the duration makes sense to me.
10 years makes sense to me.
And that's really all I'm okay with both as if the duration makes sense to me 10 years makes sense to me and that's really all I'm saying
if it's 10 years of neglect
I don't feel you should
be rewarded in any form
or fashion for 10 years
of neglect
all this to say
people are reading
the headline being like
oh some dude went in there
while they were on lunch
and then stole the place
not what happened
right
there's another one
that's even more interesting
happened in New York
this is the one in Long Island
it's like yeah
it's in Little Neck
I think
Great Neck
I don't remember
somewhere in Long Island there's two necks out there yeah a couple necks yeah and basically
this dude brett flores here's the story okay on his face there's a guy that's living in a house
he owns the house he's an old dude he's got this caretaker that he's paying cash every week take
care of him the guy basically tells him hey when i die you get the house the guy dies the caretaker
is like sick i got the house which bad incentive don't tell your caretaker you get the house the guy dies the caretaker's like sick i got the house which bad incentive
don't tell your caretaker you get some shit if you die so then he dies the guy gets the house
he's like all right bet i got this house that's sick the house basically then goes into the
ownership of like the trust of the guy yep this dude that got it just had a verbal agreement that
it was his and now he's the tenant he's just living there rent free yeah it now gets sold
and then a family buys it the land is family they have like three
kids one of the kids is down syndrome and they include this in the story to be like this is so
fucked up how are you gonna do this we're trying to raise our kid and retire in our dream home yeah
so now the family goes to try to live in the house and they can't because this tenant is living in
there and he has all the legal rights they have to keep on paying rent they have to keep the heat on
in the winter time and it's just the whole thing's fucked. That's the story. Yeah. What actually happened is fucking wild. Can you guess?
No. The family that tried to buy the property cooperated with the tenant prior to the sale,
then said, hey, if you stay in the place and cause a problem, you will lower the value.
Because they knew that there was an unruly tenant in the house when they bought it.
So the original value was like 2.8.
And what they eventually bought it for was like 2.
Wow.
And so they basically cooperated with the tenant to say,
hey, you live in here, cause a problem, use your tenant's rights to like
fuck up the sale for anyone else that's considering buying it.
Drive them out.
And we will take on the sale knowing that there's an unruly tenant.
And we'll give you like 100 grand to do it. And then once we come in, you got to get the fuck will take on the sale knowing that there's an unruly tenant,
and we'll give you like 100 grand to do it.
And then once we come in, you got to get the fuck out.
And the guy was like, deal.
Fire.
And then they renegotiated on the contract.
What does that mean?
Then they renegotiated? So they buy the house for 2 million,
and then they go to the guy and say, all right, get the fuck out.
And then he says?
And the guy goes, where's the money?
He promised me 100,000 to cause a problem.
And they go, we're not paying you.
Get the fuck out.
And the guy's like, no, fuck you guys you guys i'm staying here pay me my money and they're like no we're not doing it they call the police they try to get him out they try to go through like the legal way
to get a tenant out and thinking like yeah it'll cost us like 40 grand to get him out so we'll pay
40 grand to the city instead of 100 grand to this guy they try to fuck him and so the guy's like no
fuck it i'm staying here and he stays and basically like runs up this whole thing and then the family goes to the paper and they're
like these squatters rights these tenants they're fucking going crazy wild right this family is a
piece of fucking now again this is coming from that guy's attorney so this is the attorney from
the squatter that's saying that this is what happened no one really knows because it hasn't
gone to court yet the guy's still living in the house.
Yeah.
But that is...
So the caretaker,
was he the squatter
or is that different?
Okay.
The caretaker was the squatter,
yeah.
And apparently the lawyer
has like a one-hour
phone call recording
with the owners,
the new owners,
to basically like
set up this conspiracy.
Holy shit.
Crazy.
That's the thing,
you can't trust motherfuckers
that are willing to do this. Yeah.
If they're willing to screw these people over, they're willing to screw you over.
You need everything in writing.
And I'll throw a bunch of allegedly's on this.
I don't know what the actual details are. This is just
what one article I read. What an absolute
scumbag. You can't trust a single headline anymore.
It's unbelievable. Great.
Just the story. Let's say if the story's false,
like, I guarantee
people are going to try to do this when they go to buy a house.
Oh, wow.
Like you're incentivized. Like, yo, I can get so much cut off this house.
I just have to find a house who's like rent or rent to buy.
Yeah.
And then boom.
This is not the same thing at all.
But the more information you have going into like purchase a home, you know, the better you are at negotiating, right? Like a friend of mine was purchasing an apartment and he did his due diligence. We all know him. And he found out that it was being sold by a trust and it was an inheritance trust.
by a trust and it was an inheritance trust. So the person dies, the home, like in this situation,
goes into the trust. There's executors of the trust, right? Someone whose job it is to like divvy up all the things that that person has. And then usually what they do is they sell the
property and then disperse the capital through all the brothers or sisters or nieces and nephews, whatever.
When you get something inherited to you and it's only coming in as cash, you're not as closely tied to the amount that it's worth because it was zero to you.
Yeah, yeah.
And you're splitting it between five people.
Yeah.
The second he found out about that, he starts bullying them on the price.
He's like, oh, these guys just want money quick. they don't want to be time this means nothing they're selling
your home that's my home i love what you put into it and what it means to you it's also you might
need that money to buy a different home right right like dude you so he finds out this information
and he he bullies them fucking down and i it makes sense because, again, this money to them is free. They had
zero dollars. These are family members.
And now they're standing to make, who knows,
maybe $100,000 each. You're like,
okay, so I could
make $100,000 now or I could make
$85,000. I can make $100,000
potentially two months from now when I keep
negotiating. Maybe this deal falls apart. Maybe
there's another deal that happens. Maybe that deal falls apart.
In the meantime,
I got to pay the dues for the apartment.
I got to upkeep this apartment.
Now I have responsibilities
to the apartment
that I didn't have before.
Or I can make 85 grand right now
and no issue.
That's smart.
That's fucking smart.
Yep.
Hui.
Wafa, right?
Yeah.
So all these headlines generally,
not all, I'm not going to say all,
but a lot of the headlines
it seems like are kind of like
out of context or cherry-picked or lack the nuance.
Yeah.
And they just enrage people.
So I was talking to-
People get fucking fired up.
I was talking to Rogan about this, and I wonder if, okay, you know how like our parents, maybe my parents are a little different, but like they can't really discern between like a Nigerian prince calling them and asking for tax money and then saying that they're going to make $3 million.
like a Nigerian prince calling them and asking for tax money and then saying that they're going to make $3 million.
They can't really discern between that and a real call from AT&T
that's saying, hey, your bill is past due.
My parents are better than me, dude.
They grew up in scam central.
Okay, fair enough.
But the point I'm trying to make is an older generation
is more used to the people that call their phone
calling with truthful information, right?
And asking them and helping them about something.
Ah, yeah, yeah.
Right? Baseline, is that okay?
Okay.
I think we're in this generation where we were raised knowing there are some scams,
but at least when it comes to the news, we saw headlines, we kind of trusted, right?
And now our eyes are opening, like our parents' eyes are opening to Nigerian scams.
Like my mom might get a call now and she's like, what do you mean?
I don't even have an AT&T phone.
Wait, why?
This is a scam.
I'm hanging up.
We're doing that with news.
Our parents aren't there with news.
They trust news.
They see this headline.
This is what the fuck it is.
We're going through this with news. We're like, like oh i don't know if i can really trust headlines
i hope my hope is that the generation below us i think they do sees every headline and reads it
with the same scrutiny that we will hear a nigerian prince phone caller or email scam yeah
they have high school classes about this.
So my concern was, yo, we're fucked.
You can't believe a single thing.
We're only fucked if the people knee-jerk believe the headlines.
If the kids growing up know that all headlines are bullshit
and they're salacious and they're just made for clicks,
which they will because they grew up on YouTube.
They grew up learning about scams.
Like we grew up learning about these phone scams
and it's not even scam
it's like
they're on YouTube
clicking on things
and they're watching
the video going
ugh it's not really
what that thumbnail
made it seem like
the way you saw
your parents
like get scammed
or steal the phone
and you're like
mom
you're not actually
talking to a guy
I think our younger
generation will see
their parents
being like
you really believe
you believe headlines?
You believe the news?
Just because they said this, you're getting annoyed about it and fired up?
It's obviously not true.
Yes.
So that makes me feel a little bit more comfortable
and a little bit more hopeful
because the idea of just like every single headline that we read
that is enticing is fake.
It is 10 for 10. Every read that is enticing is fake. It is 10 for 10.
Every headline that is enticing is fake.
Yeah.
How crazy is that?
Yeah.
Or it just lacks nuance.
Like technically this guy did take a dead woman's home.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This caretaker did walk.
Let me clarify.
They find the way to come up with the best YouTube title.
Yes.
It's all YouTube titles.
Yes, yes, yes.
come up with the best YouTube title.
Yes.
It's all YouTube titles.
Yes, yes, yes. And it's like, when I say fake,
it is true in that the words can be interpreted
in a way that's true.
But the way that it is presented,
they are putting it out there in the world
in a way that they know it will be misinterpreted
for their benefit.
Whatever gets the most clicks.
My wife is in journalism school at NYU,
was, got a master's. She learned, she's like, it is what gets the most clicks. My wife is in journalism school at NYU, was, got a master's.
They,
she learned,
she's like,
it is what gets the most clicks
and is still true enough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
True enough.
True enough.
Yeah.
And let's get the most clicks.
Yeah.
But now these kids will know that
and ideally will be kind of good
and they just won't click on shit
or they'll click on it with skepticism,
which maybe is good.
Yeah.
I probably should do that.
That's good.
Have you heard that thing? Like if there's a question and a headline, the answer is almosticism, which maybe is good. Yeah, you probably should do that regardless. That's good.
Have you heard that thing,
like if there's a question in a headline,
the answer is almost always no?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Is Bill Gates really a lizard?
Yeah.
No.
Yeah, I've heard it was like some journalism professor,
like it's like the Zimmerman rule or some shit.
Like if something has a question,
it's like, yeah, probably not.
One thing I'm starting to realize is that,
like, let's say these squatters, right rights we're seeing so many headlines about it but i'm realizing the problem is never as bad as what the news is making
it like had the way that they're talking about crime in new york crime is almost at an all-time
low but it's really if yeah but if you look at news and what the headlines are you think it's
getting punched in the face yeah yeah so it's really it's been better than i'm gonna piss my pants i was talking to rogan about this too like
he was like how is new york and i'm sure well he's not here he's just consuming content about
new york and the content looks wild he's like but like have you noticed the migrants or whatever and
i was like joe new york is the most diverse city in the world. It is physically impossible to notice the migrants.
It's just not possible.
Like, if you lived in, like, the white—if you lived in Montana, right, and all of a sudden a bunch of fucking Sudanese people are walking around, yeah, you'd notice them.
Yeah, if you're in New York on a bus with Mexicans, you're in Spanish Harlem.
Exactly.
You just—it is not physically possible.
you're in spanish harlem exactly you just it is not physically possible so for people who are like oh the city's completely changed one those people probably let's say the city has gotten objectively
more dangerous have you seen more crime that is for people who probably haven't been here
for 20 years i've been here for 40 years so i've seen it in ways that are so much more dangerous
that it would blow all your
money new york is a fucking apple store compared to when we grew up how was lower east side when
you were growing up dude bro how was williamsburg when you're doing it's they said the williamsburg
was just straight jewish like this idea like we would drive through it my dad would drive through
it trying to hit him no no he would just be like hey i want you to i want you to see this this is like a mate look at
this city like there's this group of people that are living a completely different life they're
all dressing a different way and he was just like look how amazing this is like this is
not even that far from where you live look at this and we would drive through it i remember
we were going out to the beach and uh but like he would purposely want us to drive through this
section that's always really cool but but, this idea that it's different,
it's impossible for New York to be more dangerous
than it was when I was growing up.
I can't even,
the way that New York was dangerous,
and that is when it was safe.
New York in the 70s,
people were breaking into your home.
You know all the bars and the windows in the buildings?
It's because you would show up and there'd be a Dominican guy in your living room just like ransacking your silverware.
This was like a normal thing.
Did your parents leave the car doors unlocked?
No.
Oh, so that they would just take the thing without breaking your window?
They would break your window and take your radio.
No, we would put the sign on the thing saying no radio.
Oh, really?
Yeah, you just put a sign on your car
and be like, there's nothing here.
Crazy.
But every one of our cars got stolen.
Every one of our North Faces got taken.
Backpacks stolen.
Like, it was so,
being robbed was so normal.
I didn't know people didn't get robbed.
Bro, I was talking to Jamil about this.
I was literally, I was talking to Shifty.
I was like, yeah, when I was a kid,
I was afraid of like bears.
And she was like,
when I was a kid, I was afraid of coyotes.
I was like, Jamil, what were you afraid of?
He was like, getting slashed in the face.
I was like, Jesus.
Dude, I've told you this before
where like my middle school said,
don't, if anybody asks you the time,
don't tell them.
Because it was around like blood initiation time
around Halloween.
And they're like, please do not wear red. And if anybody asks you the time, do not tell them because they was around like a blood initiation time around halloween and they're like please do not wear red and if anybody asks you the time do not tell them because they're
going to use that as an opportunity to slash your face we were 12 crazy so like this idea like oh
my god new york is so dangerous yeah for you guys that came from maine when we grew up here the level
of danger was compared to what people are used to now, was incomparable.
It's not even close.
That's why I just hate the media, how they're just scaring people and making it seem like it's horrible.
And it's really not.
But then you trick the people who don't have the nuance, like the older generation.
My mom thinks New York is crazy right now.
So crime is lower than it was
10 years
because when I moved
I moved to New York
even 10 years ago
08
and I'm like
I think I
was moved in the safest time
that's ever been in New York
from 08 till 2020
I was like
this is
I dude
I would walk
New York Comedy Club
was what
24th and 2nd
I would walk home
50th and 8th
2 in the morning
Saturday
I wouldn't give a fuck
still the same
still the same
I would say
train vibes feel different to me if i'm on the train the whole energy feels
different to me i think that what people are reacting to a lot more in new york is just
i think during covid they had to let the crazies out or something and i think that's it like when
you see more crazy people on the street that's fear induing because you don't know what they're gonna do or
what they got yeah so when i see a crazy person i assume they got aids everyone and fighting a
dude with aids is crazy yeah because even if you win you lose you lose that fight yeah so but in
terms of like so funny i think exactly every crazy person got it yep and then we saw this homeless
guy he like slapped his girls i'm
i'm like what the fuck are you doing and then he kind of runs off and then andrew was like dude
what are you doing that guy could like have eight yeah you don't engage don't 100 no that's the
thing i do with the call uh you know someone just called the police yeah if i see crazy people like
especially like a crazy drug couple beefing i just say yo someone just called the police they're
coming to get yeah and then they usually chill out.
Crazy people, yeah. I think there's more crazy
people and I think that's because it was during COVID
they couldn't lock them up.
What was the crazy thing?
This goes back to
deinstitutionalization, which was
like shutting down psych wards
in the 70s and 80s. This is sort of like a long
term effect of that, apparently.
Something I've been reading up on. Also, everything everything was closed so the few places that people could get
together you're more congested yeah people aren't going to school you're not doing stuff you're not
getting the energy out and it was a tough time for a lot of people so it's like yeah you're going to
have an increase in crime also you know you need to you need to punish crime like i was speaking
even some cops i was like yo, yo, what's up?
What do you guys think is going on?
He goes, the problem is we arrest them and then they don't get... The DA.
Yeah, yeah.
We arrest them and then they get released.
It's like a catch and release situation.
That's what it's called.
No post bail.
Yeah, but they don't actually punish them for the crimes.
They don't actually take them to court.
So they know that. So there's no way to disincentivize them from doing the crimes. Like they don't actually take them to court. So they know that.
So there's really,
there's no way to disincentivize them from doing the crime.
Freakonomics.
Yeah.
Just like statistically went through like theories and they talked about
broken window theory and like statistically didn't make that big of an
impact.
Biggest thing they said that made New York safer was locking up criminals
and more criminals for longer.
And I'm sure that has negative effects as well.
But in general,
that was the biggest statistical driver toward a safer New York.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we need to actually punish crimes.
If you do something illegal, you should be punished for it.
Simple as that.
Everyone agrees with it.
And everybody agrees with it.
You have Rikers that's just overpopulated, but then no one wants to build more prisons in their backyard.
So it's like, how can we lock up more people?
Yeah.
100%. Yeah. Sorry, anecdotally i do this isn't crime but i do like i'm i see way more just like heroin being
shot up out on the streets i remember walking i don't know where i was walking one day but i saw
like three different groups of people shooting up heroin saw a homeless guy with just like shit on
him piece of intestine coming out of it it was was like a fucking- You're just more aware.
No, no, no.
I think when you were young
and just hungry.
Buddy, I moved here at 25.
No, no, no.
But you're not going to say
he moved at the peak.
See, I moved in the safest
so I think a lot of this
is spoiled.
You're like a lot of people
which like you don't know
New York as dangerous.
Yeah, I know what it was.
I know I didn't move
at that time.
I know I moved
when it was safe
and I don't think
it's what it was. But I think it's not as safe as it was when I moved here. Homelessness. I think I didn't move at that time. I know I moved when it was safe and I don't think it's what it was.
But I think it's not as safe as it was when I moved here.
Homelessness is super high.
It's at the highest since the Great Depression.
What is? Homelessness in New York City.
Yeah, but there's other...
There's the other thing
with the homelessness, which is
like, and I think
we've spoken about this on the pod, but New York has
a right to shelter.
It's the biggest city. It's the only big city in the country that has a right to shelter program,
which is for our homeless. But now the migrants found out about it and they're like, yo, if we're
in America, we might as well go to that place that puts you up in a fucking home or a nice hotel.
That's way better than just living on the street in Arizona. I'd rather go to New York and live
in the fucking Pennsylvania hotel or whatever the shit is across from MSG that's completely filled with migrants. So they're taking advantage
of a homeless policy that was already at its limit. And now we have 50% more people in that
program and no more beds. So it is a manipulation. It is fucked up and it's not for them and they're
taking advantage of it. And they're taking beds from people who are actually homeless in new york and dealing with things and homelessness isn't
something that you exist in full time you can fluctuate in and out of homelessness and the
idea of giving somebody a shelter giving somebody a roof is maybe they can get back on their feet
they can't get a job and they can get back in the workforce yeah so there are all these different
things that like combines make it look crazier but what we're used to the crazy
of me like the fucking insane crazy that this city was growing up i'm sorry it's not there i think
most of us know it's not but i don't think people want it to i don't think so i don't think so i
actually think in the same way that like we look at la and we look at san francisco we look at
portland and we're like what the fuck has happened to these cities the people from there don't look at it like that like when i
was in la and i was asking people about it they're like no i don't really we don't really notice that
big idea like yeah it was a little bit whatever but it's not that crazy but if you look at how
we view la and how everybody outside la we're like it's tense everywhere every part of it's
destroyed they're all drug you're asking la person they're like yeah we're like, there's tents everywhere. Every part of it's destroyed. They're all drug addicts. You ask an LA person, they're like, yeah, we're not in New York.
They literally said, we're not San Francisco.
Like, you don't, one, you're used to it.
You've compartmentalized it.
In your brain, you're like, yeah, there's the Skid Row tent thing.
So it doesn't really affect us.
But the way that the world is putting out information
and the world is consuming it without having anything to reject it
is completely different. And that's the case with new york as well yeah so there's this kid actually
that's trying to like fight homelessness it's very interesting australian kid and he's been picked up
by all the right-wing media sites because his thing is he posts the address of vacant homes
he's australian dude his name's geordie i believe he posts like all these addresses in australia like
hey guys vacant homes if anyone wants to go and squat in these you can yeah and he's like being
like the point person to get the homeless people or people that want homes into vacant homes wow
and he's like ideologically like vacant homes are theft and you shouldn't have vacant homes and it's
fucked up and he's like anti-landlord type vibe, I think. I don't want to
mischaracterize him. Wow. That's interesting.
And so he's just like, yo, go take these homes.
We gotta take this kid out.
How long have you been making?
That's got a limit.
10 years? It could happen.
So all this is my assumption
of this, in my opinion. Obviously squatting
is fucked up. Obviously people that are
doing this shit aren't even squatting. They're just breaking and entering or trespassing for extended periods of
times or hold over tenants and that's fucked up and there should be a way for landlords to get
people out in a speedy manner that actually like preserves their property yeah but i think a lot of
this is getting picked up right now because it's an election year and i think that these stories
specifically resonate with one specific political aisle and they're're like, oh, this is fucked up.
100%.
Tenants are crazy.
The entitlement from these people, these drug addicts, da, da, da.
And it's getting people emotionally fired up in a time where you need people to vote.
Yeah.
I mean, who do you think is going to handle tenants better than Donald Trump?
Like, if there's one person that is literally built to solve this problem, it's the guy that spent the majority of his life dealing with tenants you're fired yeah that guy you know so yeah wow oh so yeah that's
what i think i wonder if that's an interesting strategy if you could like emboldened if you could
prop up certain stories that have kind of always percolated but never really had the spotlight on
them or attention if you could prop up the stories that people subconsciously
feel like your like their candidate would solve so now you don't even need to go vote for trump
migrant crisis yeah well of course of course right to build the wall yeah uh the squatting
critical race theory yeah so it's like if that's a really subversive way to get people to vote for
you without telling them because back in the day ads are like there's a really subversive way to get people to vote for you without telling them.
Because back in the day, ads are like, there's a problem.
This guy's going to solve it.
Now you actually separate the guy and the problem.
You already know what he's synonymous for.
Build up these problems and then have them look for hope.
And then you go, oh, that guy's probably more hopeful at solving those problems.
And then they feel they've made the decision.
And it doesn't feel like an ad.
It doesn't feel like an ad.
Yeah.
That is subversive shit.
Some people do it
even more subversive.
This guy's half on crime
and so now let's make everybody
feel like crime is up.
Exactly.
Some people do it
even more subversive.
Remember that documentary
Great Hack?
It was like about
Russian interference
in the elections,
da-da-da.
Okay.
There was this guy
that in one specific place
in Alabama, I believe believe he was a Democrat guy
and he was like, or a Democrat, like lobbyist. He was like working for the Democrats trying to
get a Democrat guy elected. He started running Facebook ads saying that the Republican dude
was going to ban alcohol. So he was like, vote for, you know, Roy, what's his name?
He's going to ban alcohol, turn Alabama into a dry state. This is what we need to preserve
our Christian America.
Da-da-da.
And middle ground Republicans saw that.
We're like, fuck that.
And they're like, what the fuck?
Oh, that's genius.
I don't want these gay people.
I have a thousand percent fall for that.
But I want to drink a beer at a football game.
And it seems pure because the guy's going, vote for him.
Exactly.
Yeah, it's not in, it is actually an attack ad.
Literally.
But it is veiled as support.
Mischaracterizing his policy.
So as a result, all these like middle of the road Republicans were like, I don't know.
That's too extreme.
This guy, let me go for this Democrat dude.
And he was able, he was able to say like, okay, the ad got like, you know, 2 million clicks or some shit like that.
That specific election decided like the state and that election
was won by one percent get the fuck out of here he's like so he swayed the election he believes
he's like through facebook ads and through like mischaracterizing the opponent i was able to sway
the way i'm surprised it doesn't happen more what year especially with the super packs they're not
supposed to be in contact with the candidate like you see the shit that happened with rfk that he
didn't know about the commercial but it's like if, hey, if the Super PAC does some shit,
it's like, I don't know.
I'm surprised that doesn't happen all the time.
I bet you it does.
I bet you some of the conversations we're having right now
have been manipulated by it.
Because you can throw bots at it.
That's the other thing.
You can make stories seem way bigger than they are.
You can make comments seem way more than they are
just by throwing bots at it.
So the views are up.
The shares, I don't know if you know if the bots can share maybe they can i don't know but they can
definitely game the algo yeah whoa that's that's really interesting now i'm looking at this like
what are they doing for biden like why aren't the democrats obviously or if the republicans are
doing the democrats are doing maybe they're doing different ways so what are the stories that
they're promoting that make us feel like biden would solve these problems better no they're doing the anti-trump stories so he's a criminal he's
indicted he's not playing the game right yeah because it's more subversive you gotta go out
abortion rights again oh because that actually did that's the reason they won the midterms
everybody thought republicans are going to wash democrats in the midterms then the abortion
supreme court ruling happened oh, that's fucking good.
And people were like, and I saw it.
We all saw it happen in real time where it's like, oh, that's the only reason they won.
They got more seats than everybody thought.
And Trump just had a misstep.
I feel a misstep.
What did he do?
Like he went on Truth Social and was like, oh, I'm the guy.
I'm the reason for Roe v. Wade being overturned.
Like, he like...
He doubled down.
He doubled down.
I think he said, but it should be up to the states.
And he said, I also believe in exceptions for rape, incest.
I'm pretty sure he said that.
Which, hardcore rape.
Hardcore people don't fuck with that.
But I think a lot of moderate people would be like, okay.
But that was the miscalculation that Akash was just talking about,
where there was supposed to be this red wave,
and they really leaned into anti-abortion propaganda propaganda or just the philosophy of anti-abortion.
And it didn't really reflect in the polls.
If that Supreme Court ruling happened six months later, they'd have their seats done.
And I think that a lot of maybe the Republican think tanks started to go, uh-oh, maybe Republicans don't really care that much about abortion.
But it seems like he's trying to play both sides on this one.
He's like, I'm responsible for taking it away.
But then also I'm like,
you guys can do your thing. That is the fucking
game, though. I never considered that.
You don't need to pitch a candidate
once the candidate is known
and what his beliefs are.
You need to pitch a candidate when you don't know
what they stand for. Everybody kind of knows Trump and what he beliefs are. You need to pitch a candidate when you don't know what they stand for.
Everybody kind of knows Trump
and what he stands for already.
So the marketing can be even more subversive.
Convince people that they should be afraid
of these things that this guy can solve better
without even connecting them to this guy.
You know, that's some really interesting shit.
Like if Biden is going to be soft on china convince us that china is the biggest threat to our country and our democracy well we already know
what biden's going to do i don't know if we do but we all we know that guy trump was going to be hard
on china so i guess i have to yeah that would work on, that's a fear I have you've seen it
a lot of times happen with
Jews in Israel
that is a really important thing for them
and they're looking at the two candidates
and they're like, you even saw Michael Rappaport
who's literally shit non-stop
on Trump for fucking 8 years
now because of what's happening
in Israel and Palestine, he's like voting for Donald Trump
is on the table he's called donald dick stain donald trump the biggest corrupt
the worst motherfucker for eight years now and because donald trump has been more supportive
of israel than he believes the biden administration has been he's like now that's on the table yeah so
he so so trump doesn't even have to go hey vote for me because the problem exists here and they're looking for the solution and they just pick one or the other.
It's kind of like a really subversive vote.
That's the game.
We're all part of it.
It really is.
That's crazy.
And we're all gameable.
Yeah.
And we're all gameable.
Yo.
And when you, my like rule is like when I feel myself being like, oh, this is fucked up.
It ain't.
That's when I'm like, wait a yeah what's going on like when i feel myself get emotionally triggered that's
when i'm like all right we are our parents with the fucking call when i feel like getting 10
million dollars from a nigerian prince is too good i gotta look into this a little bit when
it feels too good to be true yeah yeah when the story feels too salacious the transvisibility i was like what the fuck okay i spoke about that on rogan it's so funny people refuse
people this is how echo this how terrifying echo chambers are i spoke about rogan and i spoke about
it i thought quite comprehensively i was like guys this is not by design by the administration
they don't i doubt they even want this.
They doubled down on it, but.
They doubled down on it because it was already.
A thing.
A thing.
They didn't, right?
Like if it wasn't a thing,
they wouldn't have doubled down on it. They wouldn't have switched it to replace Easter.
They wouldn't go, we have a better day.
But it just so happened that it landed
on the same day as Easter.
And they're like, fuck, we gotta, right?
I had Twitter accounts going going this is wrong just flat out what what andrew is saying here is wrong no explanation or anything and it's not wrong it's actually right
what we're saying the date was decided 15 years ago they acknowledged it what seven years ago
or so maybe it was three or whatever the fuck it was but still bro i talked to a dude about
political bias and how it fucks up your understanding and your ability to literally do measurable mathematics.
If you give people two math equations.
This guy was a researcher at NYU, a psychologist that literally did the experiment.
You give people two math equations.
One math equation basically is like, hey, does this skin cream, is it beneficial for controlling this rash that people have?
And here's the data set and here's the sample and tell us if it's conclusive or not.
People, when they had the math equation, were able to solve it with like 99% accuracy.
Wow.
And then when they gave them an equation that said, hey, gun control in this place,
these are the stats when you have gun control.
Here's what happens with gun control.
Here's the data.
Do an equation.
And they gave some people data where the gun control benefited
their position, that gun control was
good, and then other people gave
them gun control was bad. And depending on
what their political leaning was, they weren't
able to do the math equation.
At the very least, it took like
three times as long for the average person to do the math equation.
One, I completely believe it. Two, I also
think there are people that can do the math equation,
but know where their bread is buttered.
And they refuse to deviate from where their bread is buttered.
Also, if there's anybody deviating from where their bread is buttered, they will do everything they can to dismiss or discredit that point of view.
It's like when Daily Show sends their correspondence to a rally, and then they're like asking them about like policies and stuff like that
and then they're saying
things that
would
it would force the person
to have to go against
their policy
I don't know
I don't know what you're talking about
all of a sudden
they don't know how to talk
it's so great
but like if you
if you were given
given data
that's like
comedy's hateful
and should be banned
in America
here's the data support
I'd be like
this is wrong
this data's
you can't
like
yeah
there's no way
and people feel so passionately about all of these political issues that they can't see the math
properly i i 100 get that and i understand frustration but it's those accounts that
profit off of or brand around these ideas going out of their way to discredit because i'm on this
big platform i'm on rogan and we're having this conversation that is nuanced,
and they feel the need to discredit it because it goes against the narrative
that they have put out there in the world,
knowing that it's fake.
I just couldn't believe it.
I thought this one was going to be one where,
okay, we just ignore it.
By we, I mean they.
They just ignore it.
They're like, oh, let's just ignore this one.
Yeah, it's kind of true.
We kind of ran with this thing,
but it's kind of bullshit.
Andrew Schultz is wrong. They don't care. I feel like they convinced themselves let's just ignore this one. Yeah, it's kind of true. We kind of ran with this thing, but it's kind of bullshit. This,
Andrew Schultz is wrong.
They don't care.
I feel like they convinced themselves that you're wrong.
Yo, you might be right.
I really,
I really, truly,
I think they believed it.
They're so locked in.
Okay, I thought that they were just,
I don't think it's nefarious.
That's the thing, yeah.
I can't process it.
I think there are nefarious actors.
I'm sure there are some,
but I think the majority.
We were actually talking about
two of them early in this podcast.
Yeah. J. Yeah.
J. Cole.
I'm not very attacked.
You're right.
Listen, guys, we got to get out of here, man.
This has been another fantastic episode of Flagrant.
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