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Episode Date: August 28, 2020This week Andrew, Akaash, AlexxMedia and Mark discuss the NBA boycott, Jeff Bezos becoming the world's first $200 billion man, Paul George dealing with anxiety and depression in the bubble, sports ann...ouncers cursing live on air and much more. INDULGE! Want a new episode every week? Become a Patron! www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2
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Alright, let's talk about the NBA.
Alright. Let's talk about the NBA. All right.
Let's talk about the NBA.
So obviously everybody knows that there's a lot of shit going down in the bubble.
Yet today's Thursday, so I'm going to talk about what happened Wednesday.
Right.
Right?
Yeah.
And so Wednesday, what happens is the Milwaukee Bucks decide to not play the game against
the Orlando Magic.
Correct.
Okay.
Now, they go to the arena.
This is a lot of things that people aren't talking about right now.
They go to the arena.
They're in the locker room.
Then they decide not to play.
Okay.
So that decision had to be made last second because why get on the bus?
Why get the whole team there?
What's going on?
Apparently, there's two players on the team who are very whole team there what's going on apparently there's
two players on the team who like very deeply affected they did not want to go out and play
george hill and i think i'm assuming the other one is a spellman i think his name he was one
that got beat up by the cops sterling brown sterling sterling sterling brown yeah sterling
brown right i can't confirm the sterling brown thing but that's what people assume because he
has it like a fucking relation with the cops right so they're like all right we're not gonna go play the rest of the team is like fuck it we support them now the orlando
magic look crazy yeah because now they're the team that wants to play even though of course the cops
killed the black dude of course now clearly it's gonna affect the milwaukee bucks more because why
milwaukee's in there's in wisconsin wisconsinha situation is in Wisconsin. 20 miles away or something.
Exactly. Still,
what they did is
perceived by the rest of the NBA
players as selfish.
Really? You're going to make
us look corny. You're going to make us
look like some sellouts. You're going
to do it now. The Bucs are going, if
we tell everybody, it's not a massive news story.
It's going to leak. It's going to go out. It's not a massive news story it's gonna leak it's
gonna go out it's gonna seem organized it's gonna seem like a um a very polite boycott okay boy
guys don't have to be polite boycott's gotta disrupt boycott's gotta be shocking remember
when they didn't show up the whole fucking news system was a vacuum everybody's talking about it
so they decided not to go orlando is like all right well obviously we're not gonna play the game if we have no game to play right word gets around okay they call it
players only meeting all the teams go okay apparently it's crazy like people saying wild
shit right they start going around they go okay everybody stop everybody go into each individual
team and decide what you guys want to do as a team moving forward yeah okay they come back
the bucks say we'll play the rest of the playoffs everybody else is there like the fuck you mean
you're gonna play the rest of the playoff we're here because yeah you said that you guys are
gonna take the game off or stop or this that the other
they start going through other teams other teams agree okay let's continue to play let's continue
to play let's continue to play guess the lakers lebron's like we're not playing guess to the
clippers clippers well first of all guess the lakers lakers like's like, we're not playing. Apparently, I can't confirm this, but apparently
CP3
stands up and goes, well, fuck you
then, LeBron, we'll play without you.
Oh, shit.
Oh,
shit.
Now, I'm going to defend CP3 in a second
about this. I'm going to defend CP3 in a second.
Clippers say they're not going to play,
right? It gets back to the
heat.
Udonis Haslam goes,
if LeBron ain't playing.
The Blazers?
No,
Udonis Haslam is with
the Heat still.
Oh,
Udonis Haslam.
I was thinking about
Hassan Whiteside.
No,
no,
Udonis Haslam is a
longtime Heat player.
He's 40 years old.
He played with LeBron.
So he goes,
if LeBron ain't playing,
none of us are playing.
Everybody walks out. Right right now as we're
recording this podcast at 11 o'clock there's another meeting where they're gonna decide what's
going on so a few things going on before you're like oh cp3 is a douchebag this that the other
there's a lot of different pieces happening right now okay if they stop the season right now everybody
just stopped uh what is the term like uh cut off your nose to spite your face or something like
that like everybody's emotional,
so they're acting in a way. And there's a lot of ego here.
LeBron is the king. LeBron
is not about to let the Bucs
be the ones that lead the charge
on the fight
for equality in the NBA. This is LeBron's
league. So the Bucs make a move
like, I'm not playing this game. LeBron's
like, well, we're not playing this season.
It's my team, my league. There's some ego here. Not to be critical of LeBron's like, well, we're not playing this season. Right? It's my team, my league.
There's some ego here.
Not to be critical of LeBron,
but we cannot deny ego.
Well, the thing I couldn't wrap my mind around
is LeBron and Kawhi
apparently want to cancel the season.
LeBron earlier was one of the guys saying,
nah, we got to play.
This is a good time to bring spotlight to it.
Absolutely.
So that's where I was like,
there's a disconnect.
I'm not seeing it.
There's a disconnect here.
Now listen, keep in mind,
everybody hates being in the bubble.
They're at their wit's end in the bubble and there is potentially um remember every day they're doing 30 minutes a day and it seems like nothing but they're doing 30 minutes a day of like
social justice press so they can ask about any issues the press are in there journalists are
asking about shit and that wears on them right they feel like they have to have a solution they have to have an answer
they're constantly talking about these things they're almost like charging up the players about
the racial injustice in america while they're completely isolated in the bubble like you ever
watch that show on mtv uh the fucking we're all in the house together show real world real world
all it is is fighting yeah because you're completely disconnected from the outside world
yeah right so they're in the bubble. Everybody's pissed.
Everybody's upset.
Here's the thing.
When they're having
those discussions
as the teams,
everybody's saying wild shit.
It's not that organized,
but there are real points
that are being brought up.
One is,
if we leave here
right now
and we stop playing,
what y'all gonna do next?
Because you know
all these motherfuckers
like Lou Williams,
I'm not playing no more.
You know the second day
out of the bubble
they're going to Mexico.
So, what are you gonna do to further social justice after you leave here? Right. Right? All these motherfuckers like Lou Williams, I'm not playing no more. You know the second they added a bubble, they're going to Mexico. Yeah.
So what are you going to do to further social justice after you leave here?
Right.
Right?
You're going to go to Mexico.
You're going to hop on Instagram.
You're going to be back to Taco Tuesday. What is the move after this?
How are we going to continue to further?
Because we have insane amount of leverage right now.
Yeah.
Okay?
And also, if we fuck this deal up, how does it affect next year with the owners?
Because yes, there's three more years left on the collective bargaining agreement.
But every agreement has something called a force majeure.
And a force majeure comes into play when there is a global tragedy.
Something insane that happens that would stop production.
Something like, I don't know, the pandemic.
Right.
So they can renegotiate and cut shit off next year.
So Disney paid $1 billion to make the playoffs happen.
Right.
Okay?
$500 million of those dollars goes to the players.
That's how they get paid.
$200 million goes to make the bubble.
$300 million goes to the owners.
These owners are billionaires.
You think 30 of them Sharing 300 million dollars
Makes a big deal to them
Yeah
They're like fuck that shit
We
Are putting up all this money
We're taking all this risk
To get this shit happening
So we can make some money
We thought was going to be
A good faith relationship
We're donating all this money
To whatever charities
Of your choice
Whatever you want
We're going to spotlight
We're going to put
Black Lives Matter
We're going to put equality
We're going to do whatever
You guys want to
To gain interest And gain notoriety and make
sure that people are supporting the causes that you care about.
And then y'all just going to walk away?
Oh, we're going to have a conversation about next season.
Because next season, now that there's going to be no people in the stands, and now that
we lost $300 million in revenue because you guys wanted to walk away
from the rest of the season,
we're going to have to reduce that salary cap 60%.
So you were making $30 million a year.
Now you're going to be making $10 million a year.
Well, then it's just another strike, right?
And now it's a strike.
Yeah, LeBron could take that time off,
but can the 12th person on the bench take that time off?
Can the 12th person on the bench afford to time off can the 12th person on the bench
afford to play oh he'll go play in europe if you could get there oh he'll go play in china if you
could get there right now we're talking about not only just the players we're talking about the
staff we're talking about all these people that could be affected black white yellow brown
everybody very effective so they're like right now everybody's got a lot of anxiety and they're
anxious and they want to be the ones like the right foot forward, but the decisions that they're
making right now could affect the next two years.
Guaranteed lockout.
Guaranteed lockout if they go into it.
So now they're meeting again to decide what the fate of the rest of the season will be.
Whoa.
But it's kind of crazy.
It's not as easy as we just shut it down.
I never thought it was going to be that easy.
But real quick, do you know why the Clippers also wanted it?
Because apparently the Clippers also wanted to cancel the season.
Kawhi and LeBron were like both the same.
You want to know the rumor in the league?
What's that?
This is what the players are saying.
Right.
LeBron is willing to walk away because he don't think he got the team to win it all.
That makes sense.
And listen, to the layman's person watching basketball,
myself included, it looks like the Lakers are killing it.
They dropped 150 points and this, that, the other.
To the insider watching,
the Lakers don't have the depth necessary.
That's what we've all thought, right?
Right.
But to the average person who sees him put up 153,
they're like, oh, they got this.
They got a chance.
They got LeBron.
They got LeBron.
And LeBron is going beast mode.
And maybe he feels that like,
I got to go beast mode for us to beat the fucking Blazers.
Blazers.
And they're smoking him now, but like, I got to do this.
I got to go back to 28-year-old LeBron
with 36-year-old LeBron confidence
and fucking drive and abuse my body.
And then all I got is AD.
Now, also, if you're LeBron,
this is what you wanted.
Every time LeBron gets himself in a shitty roster situation,
it's because they listen to him
pretty much.
So that's something
that I want to say.
The only exception
was the last heat run
where they wouldn't go
into the luxury tax.
But like even then,
y'all all wanted max deals.
And I think even Pat Riley said
they took like,
they wanted to force
a sign-in trade last minute
as opposed to just signing contracts so they could get more money.
And that's when you got to give up all these draft picks and shit for the future.
And if we see one thing about the Heat, they could draft well.
But anyway, yeah, I can believe that.
I can believe because LeBron, I thought, wanted to go to the bubble because he wanted his championship.
He wants his GOAT legacy.
And it's not wrong to say, hey, I can do social justice things here.
So what you got to do
is once you you know stop making moves off of emotion right you got to say what gets me closer
to my goal so ideally what they're talking about right now is okay we understand how emotional
this situation has made us all and we want to do the right thing we also want to look the best in
the situation we want to look like we support these causes that we care about we don't look
like we're bouncing around basketballs where black people are getting fucking shot in the street.
Okay?
That being said, maybe bouncing around a basketball for these billionaires puts us in a position of leverage where we can get people to stop getting shot in the street.
Okay?
Like I said weeks ago on this fucking podcast, you got these billionaires by their balls.
You got to use it.
How does change happen in this country?
What is the actual functional way you make change in this country?
Affect the bottom line.
Affect the bottom line.
And how do you do it?
Okay, you can affect the bottom line, but how do you structurally make change?
What are some things you could actually do?
Organize, boycott.
Lobby.
Lobby, okay.
That boycott stuff is great.
It's cute.
You get a lot of memes.
Balls need to be.
You know what I mean?
Every billionaire that owns a basketball team in this country, what do you think they got
their money in?
Lobbies.
The NRA got a lobby.
Pharma got a lobby.
Everybody got a lobby.
And any change that happens in this country, it comes from a lobby.
So basketball players, instead of walking out, force money yeah that those owners are willing to give
you put up your own money and create a lobby for yourself and for black issues specifically and it
might be and i'm not exactly sure we gotta look it up maybe mark you could look but it might be the
first um like wealthy wealth driven black lobby in american history i'm sure there's been other lobbies there's been
interest group there have been like the black caucus and that but i'm talking about this is
where the real money real money black folks with real fucking money are putting their money up
to play the system just like these rich white people been playing the system
to get their objectives checked off through this pseudo-democratic process, because it's not
democratic.
You're just manipulating these fucking politicians.
But if that's the game, play it.
Yeah.
Right?
If that's the game and you're in there, play.
You got the money.
You got the chips to play.
You at the table.
So how are you going to do it?
So that's what I was about to ask you.
I got you.
This is what I would do.
Every NBA team gets protected by who?
When they travel,
in the stands.
Security is who?
Cops, right?
Cops or ex-cops or whoever.
Hey, cops.
No, it's police.
Every team hires the police.
They get them two games.
They take them away games to get them to the airport
and they protect people within the stands.
Okay.
Right?
I know you're the good cops.
Yeah.
You're here protecting us
and we've had great relationships
and everything's been great.
That being said, something's going on with these police forces where there are things that are
happening on the street and you need to handle your fucking business and we're not going to
keep funding you if you can't manage your people you might manage your people okay over here but
the same management is not managing well over there and the people that look like us black people obviously in this are getting shot in the street so what we're gonna do
is we're gonna have someone else protect us who sanitation just a bit ridiculous but no it's not
trying to get out i guess what i meant by sanitation is like who else can actually like
get you to the to the airport quick who Who else has the ability to just stop traffic
or move traffic and do that kind of stuff?
It doesn't have to be the city.
You can have private security.
So many people have private security firms.
If you can hire private security
to create fucking wars in other countries,
what's that shit called?
Blackwater or Black Rock or some shit like that?
I'm sure you can protect the fucking arena.
Listen, I'm not saying that this is necessarily
what I would do,
but if you want to put your money where your mouth is,
if you want to quote unquote defund the police, right?
Start it.
Don't yap, yap, yap, defund the police.
Start where you can actually affect it.
Tell your team you would like to hire private security
and say that you would absolutely hire the police
once they get their shit in order.
And if you don't feel like they have their shit in order,
then stop putting money in their pockets.
That is a functional thing that you can change today.
That is one thing you can do.
A couple of things.
Private security doesn't have the same leeway that cops have.
They're not able to run lights.
They're not able to do barricades, things of that nature.
So it's like they're not going to have the same pull like cops have.
Second thing.
Go earlier.
Go earlier to the airport.
Put your money where your mouth is.
Or walk the walk, if you will. If you have to leave two hours early to go to the airport, Put your money where your mouth is. Yeah. Or walk the walk, if you will.
If you have to leave two hours early to go to the airport, then that's what you got to do.
The lobby situation, which is an amazing idea, I would see a lot of pushback.
Because, granted, we're talking about basketball players here.
Not calling them dumb, but most of them have been just geared for basketball pretty much their entire adult life.
geared for basketball pretty much their entire adult life.
So it's like to convince all these players,
hey, let's all collectively take our money and put it in something that you can't really see tangible.
To that I would say you can't take exception to Shut Up and Dribble.
If you're like, well, all I've been training my whole life to do
is Shut Up and Dribble.
You're asking me to do bigger things?
This is what players have asked for.
We want the platform to do bigger things.
You don't need
all the basketball players
to be smart.
Obviously,
most athletes
or a lot of athletes
are fucking idiots,
right?
Because they've been
gearing,
like you said,
themselves towards one thing
their entire life,
right?
They're soldiers of sport.
Exactly.
Brilliant at sport,
dumb at other shit,
sure.
That's the natural
cause of things.
You only need a few of them
to understand what's going on.
Most people that are part of the NRA are not fucking geniuses, but they got a very powerful lobby.
Right?
That's just the game.
You got to run the game as it is.
And I think the owners are saying they're going to donate.
What is it?
You can look it up exactly, Mark, but they're going to donate a few hundred million dollars to social justice reform.
Yeah.
Don't.
We'll take that money.
We'll put it in our lobby.
We got everything from here.
Thank you very much.
You don't think you can hire some lobbyists
for a few hundred million dollars?
If China's hiring TikTok for a couple million,
you don't think you can do something with 200 million?
Yeah.
Come on, bro.
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