Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Schulz's Butthole Surgery
Episode Date: May 28, 2019This week Andrew, Akaash, and Kaz discuss the Raptors sweeping the Warriors, Klay Thompson being the best number 2, White people not washing their legs, Black AirBnb's, Kawhi not being a marketable pl...ayer, Andrew getting butthole surgery, and much more. INDULGE!!!
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We are here and the time is 10.06.
How's it feel motherfucker?
Not good, not good.
It's six minutes late, we have a nice little soundtrack for him.
JoJo is bumping on the cell phone.
I think we should play it again so he can hear it come through.
I heard it.
I heard it.
Akash.
You got him in a penalty box.
I put myself in the penalty box.
Oh, you dropped the seat?
Yeah, six minutes late, six minutes in the box.
Let me get some.
Pass me those tissues right there.
How did you get enjoying this so much?
You know what I mean?
Fucking A.
That got you some of your happiness. get enjoying this so much? You know what I mean? Fucking A God took some of your happiness
You enjoying this
Too much
No
So Akash
Akash was late
I just want to clarify that to everybody
Akash is late
I was actually the first one here
Akash is late
You know what?
Is that true?
This is true
You got here before them?
No
After
I'm talking about between you guys
Oh okay
But I was here
Yeah he was here before
That's fair
That's fair That's fair
Damn, Akash
It feels good
It feels good to be in this chair before you motherfuckers
Well, guys, we're here
How are you guys doing?
I'm chilling, dog
Feeling good
Feels good, I feel refreshed
You feeling fresh? You feeling fun?
Yeah, Vegas is fun
We don't have to harp on your lateness much more, Akash
I'll sit in the box
No, you can sit in the box
You're going to take your penalty.
See how I'm not judgy?
I'm just like,
hey, man.
You're incredibly judgy.
I'm going to be honest with you.
You're incredibly smart.
All I'm saying is
things happen, bro.
I get it.
Sometimes, you know,
especially if there's no work.
You wouldn't be so judgy
if this feeling wasn't
so new for you.
I'll be honest.
I was shocked
when I walked in here
and you were sitting down already.
It's not like Memorial Day
and nobody's working downtown. It's too clear and nobody sitting down already It's not like Memorial Day Nobody's working downtown
It's too clear
Nobody's outside
It's okay
I understand
That's false
It's a street fair
He did notify us
To the street fair
Yeah no
And I immediately said fuck
Because I was on my way out
Nah things happen though
Cas was so excited
When I walked in the room bro
He looked like a puppy
I walk in the room He's. He looked like a puppy.
I walk in the room, he's just looking at me like, say it, say it. This is the first time I'm on time and you're actually acknowledging it.
Like, I'm before you guys.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Shut the absolute fuck up.
You want to fucking acknowledge it for being on time?
Hold on one second.
One second.
We're not going to make this about your tardiness, okay, or on-timeness.
What is it?
Punctuality.
Punctuality.
Exactly.
This is about Akash's lateness.
Yeah.
Because you're still very late as well.
Matter of fact, I think the lesson we learned here is I'm the only one that cares.
Oh, my gosh.
I'm the only one that's on time.
I think I'm still in the lead.
I don't know.
I think it's even now.
There's nothing that even.
Akash had how many one or two
he had the one that he boycotted his way out of no no no no don't turn on me now don't turn on me
now all right so officially andrew's on three okay okay kaz is on don't even count it go on
please let me know my number but uh akash, myself, and Alex are at two.
And Kaz, you are at two, four, six, eight, nine.
Oh, still at nine.
You haven't been late since we shamed you.
Not double digits.
Got them.
It works.
As long as I stay off of double digits, I'm good.
Guys, so big news.
I'm going to have to get asshole surgery.
Wait, what?
For the hemorrhoids?
Son I have
A fucking blueberry hanging out of my asshole
I look like a cotton tailed bunny rabbit
Walking around
Dude you don't even realize how awful
This weekend has been
We were in Columbus Ohio
I almost went to the hospital.
Oh, my God.
You didn't even get to enjoy the chicken tenders.
No, I did enjoy the fuck out of them.
That's why I was in the hospital.
That's probably why you got the assholes.
Son, it was.
You enjoyed them too much.
Dude, and it is awful, even right now.
Okay, so there's a girl I'm talking to, right?
Her father happens to be a doctor.
This is how awful this is.
Buddy, welcome to the fucking life of an Indian dog.
You don't even need no insurance for a roar.
That's huge. Oh, it's life
changing. Now, it is life changing, right? Unless
you have a hemorrhoid
hanging out of your asshole.
But she knows, so whatever. First of all, no, she doesn't.
Okay.
I had to break this information
to her that I have
a hemorrhoid, right?
And then I've never spoken to her father at all.
We've had zero communication whatsoever.
None at all. The first that her father finds out about me is when she asks him for prescription hemorrhoid medication.
Right?
No, no, no.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, I was about to say, there's no way you're sitting comfortably right now.
That's why I've been on the pillows.
Okay, so prescription hemorrhoid medication.
How do hemorrhoids even happen?
We're going to get into all that because I've done a lot of research.
I want to know.
First of all, do you know how awful this weekend in Columbus has been?
Every time we would go and sit at a restaurant, I would have to ask the restaurant if they had a pillow.
I thought you were going to have to ask for permission of your black friend to sit at the restaurant.
I mean, obviously.
We did some wild shit, bro.
We ate at this German restaurant on Saturday on Memorial Day weekend.
There's fucking German flags flying all around like the troops wanted.
Anyway, so I'm asking
for fucking
because I cannot sit on wood
when you sit on wood
it just separates
your butt cheeks
and then your asshole
starts to fall out
of your asshole
even more
than it was already doing
this is what a hemorrhoid did
it's just a part of your asshole
has fallen out of your asshole
it's like a vein
how do you happen
I think it's from like
jamming too many things in there
no it's the opposite
it's pushing too many things out
Yeah
Jamming things in is
I do that
This is a lot
Now y'all want to know the real shit?
This is a lot
There's a thing in my asshole right now
What do you mean like a pen cap?
No
I mean real talk
It's the exact same size as a pen cap
It's a suppository
Okay
It looks like a pen cap
And I have to slowly push it up my asshole
and your asshole does a weird thing once you get like a certain amount in it accepts it like an
alien spaceship you know like remember remember remember an independence day when like once you
got into the zone the like the mothership was like okay you may come in now right
so
so literally
for the last few days
I've been
taking the
the
the bunny tail
and
pushing it
okay so here's my butthole
right
I have a picture
maybe we'll show it on the Patreon
I do not want to show you guys
this right now
wait you took a picture
of your butthole
say what
what you took a picture
of your butthole
yeah cause I
I needed to see it
because if it looks like really bad they just gotta chop it off, and it's a whole thing,
right?
This is taking analysis by assholes entirely.
It's analysis of assholes.
Analysis of assholes.
Want to go to commentary on Vsports?
No.
So here's your asshole, right?
Okay.
Here's the hemorrhoid.
It's just sticking out of my asshole.
Okay?
So when you poop, does it split?
Fam, it's like...
Do you want to know what it really is like?
It's like a teapot.
It's like Moses splitting?
No, no.
You know what it looks like for real?
This is what it looks like for real.
You know those trains that chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-choo-choo?
You know how they have that chimney part and the top just goes choo's a teapot yeah the teapot shit right so that's
my ass steam building before shit no but it like it like bends it it's like curvy like you know
when you like you know when you make like um you know when like girls curl their hair yeah they
like like anyway uh we don't have to get into it Is it like Moses Like standing in the river
And just
No it's not parting it
It's not parting the poop
No it is not
It just curves the poop
No yeah it's more curved
It's awful
But that being said
Does it make wiping harder
Yeah a little bit
And easier
Cause it just doesn't go everywhere
It kind of just closes it off
I almost don't need a wipe
You still need a wipe
I do but it's just like...
Maybe you keep the hemorrhoid.
You know what I mean?
Maybe there's an advantage to having the hemorrhoid.
Listen, man.
Hemorrhoids have gotten a bad rap.
You gotta look at the bright side of this shit.
Sons, this was...
Bright side of the shit.
That's funny.
Awful.
Bright side of the shit.
It's awful, bro.
It's like...
I couldn't do anything.
What? Alex, say it. When you sat on... Stereophone. Oh, bro. It's like, I couldn't do anything. What? Alex, say it.
When you sat on Sterifone
container.
They didn't have a pillow at the restaurant.
So he got Sterifone
containers, like to-go containers.
And he sat
like a cookout plate
like a to-go plate.
The noise that it made, it was just like
crunch.
I got two, one for each cheek.
How do you perform like that?
Everything is fine?
No.
By the end of the set, it starts to really kind of expose itself.
So what I do is I push it back in.
I push my asshole back up in my asshole.
There's that blueberry thing.
I push it back in.
When it's in, it feels good.
Put the blueberry back in the parfait so i have to periodically put it back in so what i would do is right before i go on stage
literally minutes before i would go on stage i push it back in now the thing i learned from
having hemorrhoids, Akash,
is all the different times in your life you clench your butt cheeks.
I thought you clench your butt cheeks to take poops, to take farts.
And to hold poops.
Or to hold poops, hold farts, right?
Shut the back door.
Yeah.
Dude, bending down to pick things up.
It all hurts.
Laughing. It not even hurts. It all hurts. Laughing.
It not even hurts.
It's just like,
I'll just say a funny joke,
and then,
and then,
boop,
I just feel,
I just feel it pop right out my ass.
A little blueberry.
A little bobbling blueberry.
I really got a bobble booty.
I literally just got a little bobble booty.
So wait,
so, so, so, So what's the solution?
This guy's been laughing at me.
He loves it.
This is the funniest thing.
He loves it.
Let me tell y'all something.
Actual asshole content.
This is on brand, man.
It's on brand.
Hey, Flavor Media, let's get a hemorrhoid cream spot. Real talk. It's Pre brand Hey Flavor Media Let's get a hemorrhoid Creams box
Real talk
It's Preparation H
Listen
And I've been talking
And I've been calling it prep
Right
This is where
This is where it gets real bad
I was like
I'm on that prep
Right
Do you know what prep is
It's a fucking drug
For AIDS
It's the AIDS prevention drug
So I'm walking around
Like yeah
I gotta take that prep again
Bro
It has been
you know this is the most elaborate story for somebody trying to come out the closet let me tell you that blueberry is out the closet
son if you like ash play man just let us know it's fine man i get it bro so do they do they
cut off the blueberry or do they shove it back in no No, they cut it off. They cauterize it or they rubber band it.
So it's like really prehistoric the way the surgery is done.
I was like, how do you get rid of it?
They just kind of twist it off.
They twist it right off, dog.
When is the surgery scheduled?
Like a piece of challah bread.
Well, the dog is probably Jewish, so it's going to be no problem for him.
We're in Columbus right We're going
We're going to get some food right
And
And there's this
Uber driver
Cutting off tips huh
Oh hell yeah
That's their thing
A little bris
Circumcise my butthole please
So we're going down
And I think I'm gonna fuck
You know how I like fuck with Uber drivers
And shit like that
So like there's this African dude right And I'm trying to fuck with Uber drivers and shit like that. So there's this African dude, right?
And I'm trying to fuck with him.
I was like, hey, man, what do you think about hemorrhoids, right?
He takes a bit.
He goes, in my country, 50% of people have hemorrhoids.
God damn.
I'm like, what?
Alex.
Alex.
Son.
Alex.
How long did he talk about hemorrhoids?
Son.
At least 20 minutes.
Straight. Straight. I didn't interrupt him
nothing
20 minute Uber ride
is an eternity
by the way
bam
20 minutes on hemorrhoids
the dude has been there
he was talking about
like what you do
at one point
this was the illest shit
this was like the most
like third world
reaction to it
I was like
so what do you do
how do you remedy
and he starts with like there is a leaf and we take the leaf and we make the drink and I was like, so what do you do? How do you remedy? And he starts with like,
there is a leaf
and we take the leaf
and we make the drink
and then I was like,
what if that doesn't work?
He goes,
ignore.
Oh God.
Right?
Did he say?
I block it out.
No,
I'm scared.
I'm like,
am I going to get hemorrhoids
today?
I heard sitting on the toilet
too long
and I'd be chilling
on a fucking toilet, bitch. You'd be chilling on a fucking toilet,
bitch.
You'd be chilling on the toilet, dog.
That's my office.
I'm scared now.
I still have to get my best thinking done.
So it's a sacrifice.
I got to get a bidet, man.
Life changing.
Oh yeah, Alex got a bidet.
He's all about it.
Still don't sit on it too long,
but a bidet, bro.
No, I'd be,
I'm about the bidet.
I'm about the bidet for like an hour, son.
I'd be looking at like $200 joints.
I'm telling you,
heated seats.
I look at this shit like it's a new car I'm ready to get it's life changing so you gotta get that i'll be like
the speed bag oh so what like there's like different speeds to the booty
my blueberry it's gonna beat it like a speed bag, bro. I really gotta click. Like, I bet gay dudes would love me
because now I got a real dude pussy.
Like, an ass pussy.
I got a real ass pussy.
You got that Marisa.
I got that Marisa.
I really do got an ass pussy, bro.
Y'all wanna see a picture of it?
It's wild.
No.
I wanna see it.
Everybody else is gonna look at it.
Yeah, definitely. Can we put this on our Patreon? Maybe. All right, maybe we at it. I want to see it. Everybody else is going to look at it. Yeah, definitely.
Can we put this on our Patreon?
Maybe.
All right.
Maybe we put it.
It's so repulsive when I show you this.
Bro, when I look at it, I...
Dude, I took it because I was going to show it to my shorty, right?
And I was like...
Because I was going to give it to my shorty to give to her dad to see if I got the bad one, right?
And I took four pictures of it.
Hey, real talk, man.
This might have
been one two three four five no i know you got insurance too is the thing so you really just
being stingy yeah i'm late no it's not stingy i'm lazy i'll pay for it but i paid 384 for the
fucking uh the what's it called cream no the suppositories right that he had to put under her
name so we went to cvs and she had to get a hemorrhoid suppository her name because you
can't prescribe anything to someone who's not your client.
Yeah, whatever.
Did you say I'm your patient?
That's weird.
Anyway, go ahead.
Whatever.
It's just funnier to go up there where she's getting hemorrhoid cream and I just sit in
the back like, yeah, that's what I do.
That's my work.
But okay.
Oh, dude.
It is.
Oh, come on, man.
I'm already on a throw up. I haven't even looked at it yet. All right. Ready? Cam, you can look at it first. Sorry, I put it on man. I'm already, I'm already want to throw up.
I haven't even looked at it yet.
All right.
Ready?
You can look at it first.
Sorry, I put it on camera.
No, no, no, no.
I got a strong stomach.
I'll look at it.
All right.
Ready?
Oh, my God.
I'll take it back.
I'll take it back.
I'll take it back.
I'll take it back.
I'll take it back.
Here I go.
Oh, shit.
It's that bad.
This is so funny.
Wait, what is it? What is it? I didn't know it was me. Oh, my God. Yo, son. Wait, what is it?
I didn't know it was fucking a boy or something.
Yo, son.
Yo, you really caught it.
How do you stare at it?
I caught a glimpse already.
How do you ask that Harry?
I don't see an Audi belly button.
Yo, son.
It looks like an Audi belly button.
Yo, but so here's the crazy thing.
You see it, right?
Real quick, one more time.
Look, real quick, one more time. Look. Real quick, one more time.
Look.
Y'all seeing it?
All right.
So look.
So look.
Ready?
Ready?
So this is a crazy thing.
You know what it looks like, right?
Yeah.
Y'all know what it looks like, right?
My asshole's below it.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
Wait, what do you mean?
It's hiding my asshole.
That's what I'm saying.
You can't see my asshole.
Wait, so is that it tucked in Or tucked out
No that's all out
That's the hair down
That's like Legends of the Hidden Temple
Push the rock over
To get through
Can I tell you Can I tell you Can I tell you
Can I tell you
You have a visual
That is perfect
Oh my god
Can I tell you
What this is karma for
And I told Alex
This is in Columbus
But this is
What this is karma for
We were taping
Brilliant Idiots
The other day
I'm at Starbucks right
And this guy
Is working at Starbucks right
He's going to give
This chick an order right
And he goes
He goes
He goes
Shannon Right And I go He's going to give this chick an order, right? Yeah. And he goes, and he goes, he goes, he goes, sh-sh-sh-sh-shannon, right?
And I go,
eh, eh, eh.
Right?
And all of a sudden,
he just looks at me and goes,
w-w-w-w-what?
What was that?
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, fuck.
I'm looking like,
oh, I thought we were partying, man.
I thought it was,
I thought we were at the club, son. I didn't know that she was struggling. And why did it make you the like, oh, I thought we were partying, man. I thought we were at the club, son.
I didn't know that you was struggling.
And why did they make you the name, dude?
If you're out here like, sheen it.
That's that responsibility of the next person.
You got to be on the getting the sriracha out of the back.
You got to be on the getting the egg white.
You can't be the guy screaming the names out.
You got to be the egg white guy.
You can't be the friend. That's white. You can't be the guy screaming the names out. You got to be the egg white guy. You can't be the friend.
That's just bad management.
That's just bad coaching.
Like, you're putting somebody in the wrong.
I thought it was a party, bro.
I'm ready to do brilliance.
My man says, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
I didn't miss a beat.
Yo, don't scream too hard, bro.
She's going to fall right out.
So when is the surgery?
I have to book
I have to book the surgery
But the
Basically
The situation was
What kind of doctor you go to?
Proctologist
Proctologist
So we were gonna go to the hospital
And get the surgery
In Ohio
Son it was bad
And it was
We were gonna film it
And put it in
Drop it in
Yeah
We should have called that episode film it and put it in, drop it in. Yeah.
We should have called that episode Drop It Out.
Drop It Out.
So, yeah, I got to.
And it's not, like, super invasive. They literally just wrap a rubber band around it.
And then, yeah.
Pop it like a cherry tomato.
Yeah.
Literally like how they used to take off legs in the Civil War.
Real talk. Oh, gosh, this is bad. Like a cherry tomato? Yeah. Literally like how they used to take off legs in the Civil War. Unreal.
Sorry.
Real talk.
Oh, gosh.
This is bad, bro.
Oh, gosh.
And I've lived together.
Like, I took a lot of poops effortlessly.
Yeah.
That's his thing.
It's like his point of pride.
It was.
But now it's changed.
I don't even know who I am anymore.
Yo, real talk, y'all.
I don't even know who I am anymore.
Oh, gosh.
I don't even know who I am anymore yes sir so are there certain foods you just can't eat now because you have that i haven't been avoiding any um i ate a a burger called the therminator while i was in columbus so
i haven't been really restricting my diet in any way,
shape, or form.
What's the Thurmanator?
Pretty much everything.
Sounds like some hot shit.
Son, it was a lot.
Is the name after
Thurman Thomas?
I was thinking of
a thermometer.
No, it's the Thurman's
Cafe is the name of
the spot.
Oh, okay.
Anyway, we don't have
to.
Speaking of buttholes
getting tight, the
finals are set. Oh, boy. Speaking of buttholes getting tight, you have an Ionis. An Ionis. Oh, we don't have to. Speaking of buttholes getting tight, the finals are set.
Oh, boy.
Speaking of buttholes getting tight, what happened to Giannis?
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Turned the water off, huh?
You called it.
That faucet was turned the fuck off on Giannis, bro.
That wasn't how Andrew said he would handle Giannis.
He just put Kawhi on him.
It's amazing what he can do, man.
Yeah.
It's amazing what he can do.
He's the best two-way player I've probably seen since Pippen.
You know, just somebody who can get a bucket and just as easily lock down and score.
And he.
He might be the best since Jordan.
Jordan was a two-way player, bro.
He's Jordan.
I mean, listen.
Fucking who said it?
Was it Kendrick Perkins?
Mm-hmm.
He was the first guy to go on national TV.
He reminds me of 96, 97 Jordan.
He's just mad methodical and deliberate.
You know what he's going to do, and you can't stop it.
Then he locks down your best player.
He's on a Jordan-like run right now.
Just because he wears new balances and has straight back braids,
it's not the most marketable thing.
But watching the game, that's what you get.
You can market greatness.
That's what he looks like.
They'll figure it out.
I have a question for you guys.
Raptors, Warriors, how do you match up defensively?
Am I crazy for thinking they match up better if KD's in the game?
Go.
Well, let's assume KD's not for the first two.
And then give us the KD matchup.
So I would, I think you got to say put Kawhi on Klay because staff is too quick for him probably.
That's you.
Go.
But Klay also, Kawhi doesn't really guard the run around guy.
He guards the guy with the ball.
Great point.
Do you want to have Kawhi wasting his energy chasing Klay around? I don't.
But go on. And I want to hear
your lineup. Go on. So I don't know.
Maybe you can try Kawhi on Steph and see how it goes
but I want to say they tried it a couple years ago
in San Antonio and it didn't work the best.
But other than that I don't necessarily know.
You might even just like at that point
throw bodies at Klay
try to have Lowry hold
Steph as much as he can,
and then Kawhi save your energy for offense.
Okay.
Without him, without KD, I don't know where to put Kawhi as easily.
It's interesting, isn't it?
Yeah.
What about you, Kaz?
What do you think?
I think it's a little different.
I think the Raptors have been fortunate to go through their entire playoffs
without having to play it against an elite backcourt.
They ran through the Magic, ran through the Sixers, turned out an elite backcourt.
And the Bucs, right?
You don't want to waste energy on Kawhi fucking chasing Steph or Klay around.
So I just think you put Siakam and pray for the best with Kyle Lowry and maybe Fred Van Fleet.
Fred Van Fleet on Steph and pray for the best.
And you hope that they have a plan to try and stop in Kawhi and just go for it.
Because I don't think, you don't want to waste that energy unless you're down 2-0.
That's what just happened with the Bucs.
Unless you're down 2-0, you have no other choice but you got to stop this guy then
you probably put kawaii on steph other than that i don't know okay i don't like the way they match
up with the words what about um what about this this is a little bit a little bit counterintuitive
but they kind of did with the bucks a bit okay what about siakam on steph
i think length bothers steph that's interesting yeah and siakam is athletic steph's gonna get by him but he's also gonna get by lowry yeah so at least when he does those step backs you have
legit reach yeah right so you go siakam on Steph. You have Clay, unfortunately.
Sorry.
Lowry.
No, Lowry.
This is where it gets interesting.
You go Kawhi on Clay.
And I might switch that in a second.
Mark on Draymond.
That's a wash.
I go Kyle on Iggy.
Because Iggy don't want to shoot.
And Kyle's actually sturdy. Kyle could hold up. He could hold up Iggy because Iggy don't want to shoot and Kyle's
actually sturdy. Kyle could hold up.
He could hold up Iggy. The issue
is this. Klay's going to shoot right
over Kyle. You're not even going to
see Kyle. Kyle's going to be right there
and the shot is already, I mean, you know, Klay's
automatic. You need to have some height
to disrupt. I think we're missing
one more. The reason why
I like that is because we got-
Wait, what other player am I thinking?
Oh, no.
Bogut is in there?
Who else is in there?
Not Bogut.
Marc Gasol.
No.
They got the young boy.
Kevon Looney.
Looney, I think, starts.
Kevon Looney, yeah.
He starts with them?
I believe so.
He started the last couple games.
Okay.
So then you could do-
If you're starting Danny Green, Danny Green's been sucking it up,
so I wouldn't even put him on there.
But there's also a world where I put Kawhi on Steph
because I just think he alters the game.
He's got one length too, but I think he just alters the game in so many ways
that you want to have him attacking your best defensive player.
Do you think Steph is a harder guard than Giannis is?
Yeah.
For Kawhi, yeah.
For anybody.
Okay.
Well, yeah, if you're like a little guy guarding Giannis,
it's impossible.
But did you guys see what Kawhi would do to Giannis?
This is what I thought was so fascinating about it,
is he would stand him up at 18 feet.
Right?
Like most guys, Kawhi will get some – Kawhi gets off – like for Jason Tatum,
the reason why Jason Tatum just got housed, right, is let's say here's Tatum
and here's Kawhi, right?
Kawhi gets the downhill steam going, and Jason Tatum knows he's not strong enough
to stop the momentum, right?
So he chooses a direction, right?
He goes, okay, I'm going to assume he's going to do a little Hesley or something like that
And then go by, so I'm going to overplay right
And then Giannis goes, okay
Euro, layup
And Kawhi would just go
Give me what you got, I'm standing you up
Wherever the fuck you are
Serge, a little bit too
Serge could meet that motherfucker at the rim
That's the guy we were forgetting about, Serge Ibaka
But he's coming off the bench. But he's coming off.
He's coming off the bench.
I think he's coming off the bench.
So it's like, now you don't have that freak athletic situation.
You have freak shot maker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And.
They were giving Giannis a stop and pop 18 and 15 footer all series.
And he couldn't. He couldn't take it.
Consistently hit it.
He would never take it.
Anytime he would drive in, he would try and Euro and get stood up, like you said.
Yep. He would either try to. Anytime he would drive in, he would try and Euro and get stood up, like you said. Yep.
He would either try to pass off and hit a shooter, and when there was no shooter there,
he would throw up some bullshit.
Right.
And they threw the doubles at him, too.
Right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mark would come over and double because he didn't have to worry.
Mm-hmm.
But I'm just so excited, man, because as long as KD's not in, I think Raptors are winning
this.
You think so?
I think Raptors in six.
Get out of here.
They got home court advantage, bro.
Think about it.
Also, Raptors got home court advantage, right?
Right.
Which, obviously, you're playing the Warriors.
Don't get me wrong.
But Raptors have an amazing fan base.
You started off at home.
Especially, they got a couple guys that need a little boost.
Kyle needs a boost.
You know?
And go.
I thought when they got Kawhii i picked them to go to the
finals and i thought they could take out golden state and i've always been saying golden state's
not gonna win it yeah i'm gonna say i have to stick with that but i am nervous about
lowry in the finals yeah and i also worry that golden state is could be like all right we're
going to come in in game one yeah we're gonna stomp on your fucking We're going to take you a little home court and let's see what happens.
And that could, with someone, I worry about the fragility of the Raptors.
Even though Lowry's had a good playoffs, I just worry still.
So the question is, who are the fragile players on the,
I think this Fred Van Fleet is a...
He's been lights out since he had a kid, though.
Not only lights out.
Once you have a kid
I feel like you got at least a month of firing
Yeah yeah of course
It's like I gotta do it
And also you realize
There's things way bigger than this
Why am I worried so much about this
You're not nervous anymore
The kid didn't sleep last night
Right
And also everybody's like
I can't sleep I'm so nervous
He's like no no
There's a crying baby
Like that's why I can't sleep
You guys have champagne problems right
Yeah
So it's like
So I don't think you worry about Fred
Obviously Kawhi
Is locked the fuck in.
I think,
sir,
I think like the African players,
to be honest,
like this is just fun
compared to what
they've experienced.
I really mean that.
Like they've experienced
real life.
You know what I mean?
Like,
like yes,
Lowry's from North Philly
and he's probably seen
some like little,
you know,
violent stuff
or whatever like this,
but he's never seen-
Child soldiers.
Yeah.
The Congo?
You're coming from the Congo?
Right.
So it's like, this is fun.
Yeah.
It's a game.
It's a game.
At the end of the day, it's truly a game, right?
And then Marc Gasol, I don't know.
The Euros, it's like they're not going to go wild and give you 40.
But I also don't see them stinking it up.
They're like socialists.
They're going to be middle of the road, right?
I could see.
I still got the Warriors taking this.
But I could see the Raptors being a type of team that could slow down the Warriors enough to make it go 6 or 7.
And once it goes 6 or 7, it's anybody's game.
It's anybody's game over there.
They definitely have a shot, and I'm going to stick with the Raptors.
But here's what I would say why I think it might be easier if KD's in the game.
Go.
Because then you put Kawhi on KD.
Yes.
That's a matchup that Kawhi is much better suited for.
Right.
But the offense still runs through KD.
Right.
And when you got your best defender,
who's a good matchup for the guy the offense runs through,
I almost think, and KD doesn't know how to operate without,
when he's not getting the ball,
KD's not Steph.
He has to move without the ball.
He's not swallowing his ego.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's not like, okay, I'll just help any way I can.
He's not that guy.
That's a really good point.
So I almost think it's-
You want KD to come back.
I almost want KD to come back as quickly as possible.
Wow, that's right,
because Steph, you got to run around and chase him. If he Wow, that's right because Steph, you've got to run around and
chase him. If he's not killing you off the ball, he's going to run
around screens. There's so many different ways he can hurt you.
KD is not going to run down to
the baseline, run around four screens, come around
pick and pop. He's like, give me the ball, the fucking
block, I'll get mine. You know what's going to
happen? I'm going to make my bold prediction right now.
Go.
Draymond Green's going to be the finals MVP.
He's going to be the finals MVP. He's going to be the finals MVP.
So if they win.
If they win.
It's Iggy or Draymond that makes this game.
Yeah.
Because, and again, I don't think they'll keep Kyle on.
Iggy?
I don't think they'll keep, no, sorry.
I don't think they'll keep Kyle on Steph.
Okay.
Yeah, no.
Probably for the best.
And for the best for Kyle,
right? Like, you know he's
a little sensitive. He's a solid defender.
Like, he's not a mad dog. And he's a tough guy.
He's a tough guy, but what you want
from Kyle is uber confidence,
right? Yeah. I want you to feel as confident as you
possibly can so that you can play
this position, which is really important on the team.
You're a disruptor, you're a pest, and you get guys
involved, and then every once in a while you hit a back-breaking three
or finish at the rim.
Is he going to be able to do that when Steph is lighting him up for 30 a game?
No, right?
But it's the thing.
It's also the finals.
That has still been remained.
As much as Steph has been killing throughout the playoffs,
the only knock everybody's had on Steph is like, has he?
No, last year finals he played great.
He played well.
Excellent.
He could have had MVP.
If he got MVP last year, nobody has a problem with him.
Exactly.
He played excellent.
But I'm saying with this, there's a little bit more pressure.
Right.
With no KD, no boogie.
You know, you got Kawhi Leonard who has been like the Warriors killer.
Right.
Even in San Antonio and even in Toronto.
But once you beat Braun, you're not worried about Kawhi.
You're not worried.
I don't think you.
But Kawhi beat Braun too.
No, no.
I think you should be.
But in terms of like beating down a boogeyman. Yeah. I don't think you Now I think you should be But Kawhi be brown too No no I think you should be But
In terms of like
Beating down a boogeyman
Yeah
He's done it before right
Kawhi's a different type of boogeyman though
He's a different type of boogeyman
He is a guy
He's the boogeyman that nobody knows is the boogeyman
He's
No
He's the guy who like
When LeBron gets it going
Yeah
Like it's palpable
You feel it
Like he's a fucking He's a passionate dude Yeah When Kawhron gets it going, it's palpable. You feel it. He's a passionate dude.
When Kawhi gets it going, you don't even fucking know.
He's just a fucking Terminator robot with no emotion.
He doesn't know when he's up, when he's down.
He doesn't give a fuck.
He's going to get his.
And he's going to lock down your best player.
These are things that will happen.
If they make it to six, even if they lose, there's no way Kawhi leaves, right?
I mean, if they get swept, he might leave.
I think he stays no matter what.
Even if they get swept.
Even if they get swept.
Wow.
I think he stays no matter what.
I think getting swept, definitely you have to engage in some talks.
But if it's competitive and you know KD's leaving
and you know that Warriors team is in some way being blown up,
you don't want that again? Well, if they and you know KD's leaving and you know that Warriors team is in some way being blown up, you don't want that again?
Well, if they sweep you without KD.
Exactly, yeah.
So if they sweep you without KD, I think there's a better reason for him to leave. But if they get a game or two, right, and it's close, maybe they lose a couple close ones.
I think it's like, now we got this.
Maybe we get a nice little pickup.
Clearly the Raptors organization can get a lot of juice out of the fruit.
You get a guy like Siakam that nobody knew was going to end up being a
contributing player.
They develop players, man.
Yeah.
Shout out to the GM, man.
Every roster move that they've made in the past seven months have been great
moves.
Under the radar, very good GM.
Extremely good GM.
And on top of that
with him,
you know,
I think it's like
a Paul George situation
all over again.
They rolled the dice
on the guy
with the one year
on his contract.
They're like,
hey,
this is better
than the Paul George situation
because he went
to the finals.
So now it's like...
Because he's better
than Paul George.
That's why...
I just feel this is a risk.
But to me,
when they got Kawhi,
it's a risk you have to take.
And then picking them to make it to the finals, I'm going to take credit because I'm me.
But it's not like some bold prediction.
You had DeMar DeRozan.
He's good.
He got you to the conference finals.
But now you have a fucking dominant defensive player and a really good offensive player.
I'll say he's a dominant offensive player.
Now he's a dominant offensive player.
I think we had with DeRozan an overrated player,
and now we have with Kawhi an underrated player.
And sometimes those ratings are what equate to a really interesting trade.
Like when you know the value of another player
and you know no one else values it, it's real estate.
It was a perfect storm because he was coming off an injury.
He sat down the whole spurs.
Furious in an organization. It was people the whole spurs. Furious in organization.
There was people in the media chirping about Kawhi Leonard,
about being a fucking distraction.
All fucking guys, right?
So his value was at an all-time low,
and they still got an all-star player out of it.
And now everybody's looking at him like,
yeah, why didn't we chirp at Kawhi Leonard?
Well, duh, he's showing you why.
So here's the question I think we need to start asking ourselves,
which is who are the
top three players in the NBA right now?
Right now? And is Kawhi in that?
Yeah, you have to.
Let's have the conversation.
Is Kawhi the best player in the NBA?
You have to give him number one right now.
Him or Steph right now, at this moment.
Right this very second, yes. He's the best player in the NBA.
Right this very second. Let's really
talk about it.
There's nothing on the basketball court that he cannot do.
Maybe he's not an elite passer.
Not a bad passer, but not elite court vision like LeBron.
But he's a better defender.
He's a better score in terms of moves.
LeBron doesn't have many moves.
He has a nice little kind of like step to the side mid-range. Kawhi has a fucking in and out between the legs dribble that just shifts the entire defense.
Kind of like James Harden does, but without the traveling.
And less dribbles.
And less dribbles.
He does what James does in a fraction of the dribbles.
That's it.
And you can't stop him because he's so fucking strong and his hands are so big you're not
going to even try and swipe at it.
There's so little grace to his offensive game that you don't realize how good he is.
That's a great way of putting it.
Yeah, it is.
There is an effortlessness and an economy.
Yes, economy is the perfect word.
It's like a joke that has no fat, right?
Exactly.
If you ever watch an elite basketball or any basketball player practice by himself in a gym with cones and chairs and dribbles and all that shit,
that's exactly how he plays with defenders.
When the game is on.
Interesting.
Yeah, he'll get his fade.
He gets the shots that he wants.
You know what I'm saying?
He'll get his little elbow jumper.
If he's going between the legs, if you shift,
he'll hit a three in your face.
If you come up, he'll go past you.
He takes exactly what you give him.
So Kawhi's top three, we're saying.
I think it's undisputable.
Maybe top two, we say.
Yeah.
So what does the NBA do, right, when your top two player,
potentially your number one player, is not the most marketable?
What do you do as – you guys are Adam Silver, right?
What is that
strategy do you lean into his lack of marketability and like call him an assassin like a stone cold
ice cold a sat like lean into the lack of emotion or are you going to try to make this person someone
who he's not so he can carry the league i think it's too late it's too late for that it's too late
to try to make him anything that he is. He wears New Balances. Right. He has fucking Times New Roman behind it on the font.
He's the most basic motherfucker we've ever had that has been this good in the NBA.
And I think you lean into the fact that he's just a guy.
He's New Roman.
That's his nickname.
He's New Roman.
That's his nickname.
You lean into the fact that he's just a dude.
He is the Times New Roman
He is the Times New Roman
He's Times New Roman
And shit is regular to look at
But you need it
Yeah
And honestly
It's the dominant font
Yes
Fact
It's the dominant font
He is the Times New Roman
Of the NBA
Yeah
Like
You know with him
It's kind of like
How we had it with stuff
A few years ago
Before he got like
Almost annoyingly confident
Right
When everyone just thinks
He's arrogant
At the same time Like he's arrogant at the same
time like he's a low maintenance superstar yeah he's got he's got an ego you assume every guy
that good has some sort of ego but you'll never see it yeah you'll never show it yeah and on top
of that you know it's good because you have the balance of guys like lebron of guys like yeah you
have you have enough stars and you can almost market him as like the anti-ego guy. Like he just, the trade demand is where it gets a little fucked up.
And I would still love to know the real reason.
Why?
The actual reason he wanted to have fans on you.
That makes me respect Kawhi more.
Because you know some shit must have went down for him.
I feel like he's right.
No, no.
100% right.
And, okay.
And I want to get back to, I actually want to get back to that,
but there's one thing I want to say just about the low,
what is it called?
Low maintenance.
Low maintenance superstar.
You know who's going to love Kawhi Leonard?
Middle America.
Yep.
Middle America is going to go,
he doesn't do all the shoulder shit.
He just goes there.
He wins just like they do.
They go to their job, and they do their job.
And I think that if Adam Silver is smart, there's a way to wrap that work ethic.
He's work ethic.
He is go there and grind.
It doesn't have to be.
That's a great point.
That's a fucking great point.
And you have all these dudes that are tired of the flashy, glitzy, like on my Instagram
doing all this stuff.
The semi-racist.
I didn't want to say it, but race white people don't love it.
It's going to be the first person with cornrows
that they've accepted in their whole life.
He's the guy who just shuts up and dribbles.
It's an effective way to keep your head out of it.
He shuts up and dribbles better than anybody.
And he might win an NBA title for it.
Oh my God.
So then he has to be careful, right? They have to be careful
that they don't throw him under the bus Right
Right
Or to the back of it
But
But
But there is something
Beautiful about it
Because you're gonna have a lot of like
Basketball
Maybe basketball purists
Yeah
Youth basketball coaches
If I'm a youth basketball coach
Or AAU or high school
I'm like
Dads
Watch this fucking guy
Dads are gonna fuck
Granddad's dads
Grandfathers This is how the game is played This is You don't need to celebrate AAU or high school, I'm like, watch this fucking guy. Dads are going to fuck granddad's dads.
This is how the game is played.
You don't need to celebrate every time you score.
I'll tell you this.
When I was growing up playing high school ball,
there was all these recruiting sites, like Rivals and highschoolhoops.net and all this type of shit.
And the top of the guys, if you were a 6'10", whatever,
they'd have your NBA comparison.
So everybody was here.
Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett.
Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett. Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett,
if you were 6'10 and up.
Because that was basically just saying you're a big guy
who does more than just score, right?
Kawhi Leonard is going to be that guy for a bunch of youth players
because he is the, I forgot what they called him on ESPN,
they called him the little fundamental.
Tim Duncan was the big fundamental, he's the little fundamental.
How do you have less personality than Tim Duncan? Tim came from the same fucking franchise and coaching well that's
something they look for at the spurs they don't want they want a guy who's able to laugh at
himself who puts the team above himself like there you go they have like personality criteria they
look for when they draft players. Thank God he got
the fuck out of there.
Like everybody said
that his uncle
was the worst thing
in his camp.
So he has this uncle
I think who's from like
Newark.
And they were like
you got to get out of here.
He demands a trade
all this.
And they're like
why the fuck
are you listening
to this guy?
He might be
the smartest guy
in the room.
He really might be
the smartest guy
in the room
and we fucked up
by assuming
that he was just some like leech family member that was out here for his own personal interests.
That one decision to get him out of San Antonio puts him in the NBA Finals and in the top three players in the world discussion.
And you got to understand.
Do you think they make it to the NBA Finals on the Spurs if he's healthy?
No.
You don't think so?
No.
I think they make it.
I think they make it.
I think they make it.
I think the Spurs team can talk about it.
I think the Rockets for them are no problem.
I think the Warriors are a problem just because of LaMarcus.
I think he just doesn't do.
He's an ill-fitting piece in this NBA, which is crazy.
I never saw that coming.
You're taking tough mid-range jumpers, man.
It's like you can't really defend that well.
You're a liability on any switch-off.
He's like Dirk on any switch-off. So it's like you just attack that motherfucker.
And I think he's what holds him back.
I think—yeah, I agree with you.
I don't think they do it. I think they're
better suited. I think what's underrated
is Marc Gasol's feet.
Like, if you watch Marc Gasol's
feet for a guy his size,
nimble. Motherfucking soccer player,
bro, is that soccer shit.
All those Spanish-European motherfuckers, bro.
They gotta be able to move. Ain't no plotting
shit in soccer, right?
Yeah, ain't no mic controls in the early 80s.
This idea of sports specialists we have growing up in America where you play one sport and you get really good at it, I don't think it's good.
What do you mean?
Like, if they think you're going to be a baseball player, that's all you play.
Oh, don't touch nothing else.
Baseball all the time.
Yeah, football, football all the time, quarterback all the time.
I think football players, and I think they're coming around on this from what I understand, but like football players should play baseball, should play soccer,
should play basketball. Like all
these things come in handy. Steve Nash,
all we talk about is how his soccer background
helped him as a basketball player.
Soccer and basketball in particular. Hakeem Olajuwon
soccer player. Mark Gasol, probably soccer
player. Those two, you gotta play
both of the same time. Hakeem had great footwork too, man.
They had the best footwork. The best.
He's still teaching. They literally play a sport
where all you do is
work on your,
everything's with your feet.
Dude, Kobe even,
like let's not sleep
on the fact that Kobe
spent his formative years
in Europe, right?
Like you know he was
picking up some shit.
They even say,
I mean it's a different sport,
but Vasyl Lomachenko,
he's a boxer.
Some say he's the pound for pound
best boxer in the world.
And incredible, like intense training from his father. But his father took him out of boxing for two years straight. Lomachenko he's a he's a boxer some say he's the pound for pound best boxer in the world and uh
incredible like intense training from his father but his father took him out of boxing for two
years straight and just made him do ballet he goes your footwork wasn't good enough on some like real
Ukrainian like Russian like Rocky type training like but he was basically like it's not good
enough do this thing that's all footwork and if you watch him it's majestic his footwork is
majestic wow and it's maybe Takashi's point it's like yeah we're focusing so much on keeping your Footwork And if you watch him It's majestic Wow His footwork is majestic
Wow
And it's
Maybe Takashi's point
It's like
Yeah we're focusing so much
On keeping your fucking elbow in
Yeah
That you can't even move
Around the court
Right
It's like
At a certain point
Diversity and training
Is what's gonna
What do they say
Like you work the same muscle
Over and over again
It doesn't get bigger
That's a good point yeah
Or do the same exercise
Yeah
Some shit with exercise
What is that
Muscle memory yeah like
so what happens your body just gets used to the exercise so you're not working it anymore or
something i think that's what peanut on the x was for they call it muscle confusion oh yeah
they would do some just other shit that your body's not used to because once you've done it
so many times you can't grow anymore you got a different shit with it. Yeah, switch it up with the legs, huh?
Okay, so here's an interesting hypothetical I want to talk to you guys about. So you both got the one on a wrap that's taking us.
Yeah, I think.
Okay, I want to bring this hypothetical up to you guys.
This was an interesting one, right?
$10 billion, okay?
You have three chances to hit an NBA three.
Okay. Okay, if you hit one you get 10 billion dollars if you miss you do one year in maximum security prison this is from the ticket
is it really yeah we saw this we saw this on uh i think i think it's actually a uh they might have
gotten it from but they do one segment a week where they just think up a hypothetical as far
as i know they thought of this is I think
a popular one
on the internet
I'm not risking
any amount of money
for a prison
talk me through it
again look at me
it's the same
fucking thing
it's taking a punch
maximum security
that means you're secure
no no no
it's just lonely
when you go to jail
maximum security
means the most guards
because it's the
illest motherfuckers
on earth
oh I thought you
just by yourself in the middle room.
Minimum security is you're chilling.
Minimum security is we don't need that much security because you're some white-collar pussy.
That's where I belong.
Do they know?
That's my lane.
My question is, do they know that's why you went to jail?
Like, what you went for, fam?
Mystery three?
Mystery three?
They got a million. What you went for, murder? fan murder they don't know why I'm in there like a front like yeah yeah no
he's catching bodies and shit I look like a little one out there, dog.
It's the motherfucking thing that's going to go down, dog.
Akash alam alaykum.
Akash alam alaykum.
That's going to get you killed, man.
Are we taking quarter threes, straight away threes, any type of three?
Any three.
No, it's got to be full three.
So the corner's not full. Do I come in cold? Can I warm up? No. Three threes, any type of three? Any three. No, it's got to be full three. So the corner's not full.
Do I come in cold?
Can I warm up?
No.
Three threes.
I mean, you can shoot the day before.
You can shoot whatever.
But there's no warm up on that rim.
You have three threes.
Everybody at home, think about this.
NBA threes.
Three NBA threes.
No, I'm not making it.
I don't think I'm making it.
NBA threes?
Let me put this into context here.
We're talking about $10 billion.
Whatever, dog.
That's a ridiculous amount of money.
What?
Can I granny shot it?
What?
You would want to take it.
You're going to risk a granny shot for NBA three?
Bro, if I could set my feet and take forever.
It's not just catch and shoot.
I can literally just take as long as I want to.
You can take three days to do the shots if you want.
Calculate the win.
Do whatever the fuck you need.
Okay?
But listen, if you hit it,
you're one of the richest people on the planet.
If you don't, it's just one year.
Maximum security prison.
That can't be.
Yo, but.
I mean, we have one guy who's actually been to jail here,
so we should probably ask him about it.
How was jail, Alex?
He went to best case scenario jail.
Yeah, I went to best case.
I would do it.
You would do it?
I would do it.
You would miss.
I've seen you shoot before.
Son.
After your little battle.
Oh, you want to smoke next?
I got to win.
I had to teach this guy how to play golf this weekend, bro.
That shit was embarrassing, bro.
Really?
Do you really want to talk about that?
I saw you on Instagram story.
I saw you was looking low.
I had to teach this guy how to play golf, bro.
Do you really want to talk about that?
I had to teach him how to golf.
I know the jig by now, so I see the Instagram stories.
This guy can't play golf or shit, bro.
I was teaching him how to play golf.
You see him with this bullshit right now, right?
I can read through it.
That's what I'm saying.
I already know what happened.
We're doing this shit where you throw the ball up, and then you bounce it, and then
you got to hit it off the bounce.
This guy was falling on the ground, couldn't hit it, had like 1,000 chances.
You forget that I got the footage.
I'm about to say, Alex, you just didn't start
showing this type of shit.
He has like a hundred takes of trying to hit the ball
off the bounce. I'm going to be honest with you. I was
impressed by how many takes I didn't
hit it.
I'm literally swinging.
I did a hundred takes in a row. You throw
the ball up, it bounces once, and you try to hit it in the air.
I did maybe 100
swings in a row. I'm like, I should hit it by accident by now. Bro, I might need and you try to hit it in the air, right? I did maybe 100 swings in a row.
I'm like, I should hit it by accident by now.
Bro, I might need 100 takes to hit it off a tee.
Even the lady comes over and is like, hey, guys, you got to stop with the trick shots, all right?
The moment she walks away, this motherfucker goes and tries again.
Like, he was relentless.
I could not hit it, bro.
Everybody looked around me, and they were like, at first it was funny, and then by shot 50, they were like, fam.
Mark was saying this at 50.
He's like, bro, I think you're hitting it.
It's just not going.
I think it's disappearing or something.
That was more believable that I was connecting with the ball, and it was disappearing than I could miss that many times in a row. I got it off second try.
Yeah, but he fell the first one.
I'm Tiger Woods out here, baby.
I'm this guy. I'm fucking the white girls. That's not. I'm a natural. Yeah, but he fell the first one. I'm Tiger Woods out here, baby. I'm nice.
I'm this guy.
I'm fucking the white girls.
That's not going to be a problem.
You are the natural.
You walked right into that one.
I'll take it.
He's the weirdest golfer.
You are Tiger.
I'll take it.
I'm Tiger.
Tiger media out here.
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the show um i don't think i said what i would do in this situation i think i would take the shots
for 10 billion oh yeah i think i would take the shot yeah you're saying it like we were upset at us for not doing it yeah because one i believe in my luck i feel
like it would go down here's the thing okay i do think in prison you wouldn't do great but at all
but you got like hands like you box like you're not as much of a bitch as you look like you would
be right i am every bit as much of a bitch i look like i would i also have a racial group to join
you got yo shake the head put a little tattoo on.
You know what I mean?
Prove the brilliance of these fans, right?
You know what I mean?
All right, Andy, finally.
Then I just get the fucking tattoo on the forehead and shave your head.
If you're a not racist white guy, but you go to prison, you got to choose up.
You know what I mean?
You got to figure that shit out real quick.
Get your N-words out while you can.
If there's one safe space, it's actually safer for you to say the N-word in jail.
Oh, my gosh.
I need everybody to know why I'm in jail, though.
Like, if I missed a shot.
Right.
Like, I don't want nobody coming up to me and be like, oh, what the fuck you in here for?
I'm like, bro, I just missed three points.
Oh, all right, bro.
I just let you go.
Here's my question, right?
I'm too cute for that.
The offer still exists when you get out.
Oh, I'm going for it again.
How many times do you do it?
Right?
Now it gets interesting.
How many times do you do it until you go,
fuck it, I got to stop spending years in jail?
All right, another caveat.
Is there a basketball hoop in the jail?
A hundred percent. Oh, I'm taking it one more time. That's all you're doing. I'm to stop spending years in jail. All right, another caveat. Go. Is there a basketball hoop in the jail? A hundred percent.
Oh, I'm taking it one more time.
That's all you're doing.
I'm coming out of Clay Thompson.
I'm going one for one.
Bang.
You're my $10 billion.
I'm out of here.
I'm taking off the warm-ups.
Let's go.
I get a year of maximum security confinement, and I just have a basketball.
And then when I get out, I get three shots to be a $10 billion return.
And you tell everybody in the gym, you go, fellas, I'm about to be worth 10 billion.
All right?
Hold me down for this year.
Just let me practice.
Nobody do nothing.
Let me, somebody, I need some rebounders.
Hey, Mexican gangbanger, stop doing pushups.
Come here and get rebounders.
You tell them you're going to be worth a billion because they're going to come back for way more than you.
I'm going to be worth a hundred million dollars.
I'll give you all a million.
There's $2 million waiting for me outside of Chicago.
Help me out here, guys.
Protect me.
I got you when I get out.
Guys, I get free Chipotle for a year if I hit this three-pointer when I get out.
That's what I would say.
You want to bring us some burritos, Wade?
So, boom, you just get the full practice, and I think you knocked that down.
Oh, absolutely.
I get another shot at it?
But how many times do you miss before you say not?
I think as a competitor, you just keep going until you get to 10 billion.
Don't I know that about golf?
I missed that fucking thing.
Have you ever been so sure That I would just keep on shooting
Oh
Absolutely
Without a doubt
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I went in there to pee
I felt real bad
I was like yo
Can we do this basketball game
He said yeah
But I was like bro
I don't know
Recover as you need to
Son
Wait
No we're doing the basketball game
I was about to say
Is this gonna
Is this gonna
Postpone anything
I hope not
I don't think so
I think it says
A week recovery so
So do we get like
You gotta have like A sports center The game is two weeks away You gotta have like A sports center ticker I don't think so. I think it says a week recovery. So do we get like a...
The game is two weeks away.
You got to have like a SportsCenter ticker, like injured reserve, like butt surgery.
Guys, I'm going to get butt surgery.
How crazy is this?
I know.
Asshole surgery. Asshole, like literally the whole of my ass.
It's quite poetic when you think about it.
I'm committed.
This is like a tattoo.
You're the number one asshole.
You're keeping it tight whether you like to or not, bro.
Asshole general getting surgery on his
general asshole.
God damn.
Go, go, go, go, go.
Cass got to go to Duceypalooza.
Some of y'all are already on the way.
Be good.
Good shit.
I'll take it easy, bro.
See y'all there, man.
I want to talk to Kaz about Giannis and see how he feels about the fact that his boy seems to just fall apart.
Here's why I thought they would lose to the Celtics.
Playoff and experience.
And I think that finally came into play here okay i think once you run into a wall and you haven't done it a lot you don't know
how to deal with the adversity yeah who's gonna make the adjustments i think there's just a lot
of like the nba more than any other sport you have to lose a few it seems like before you win
yeah the only team that kind of bypassed it kind of was the warriors and even then they got their
lumps out yeah but like you need at least one playoff heartbreak, it seems like.
Can't get over the hump and then you get it.
Yeah, to learn to put it together.
No, that's a good point.
I think we just learned that the Raptors were better at making adjustments.
And they also had an X-Factor player.
They had Kawhi.
But Giannis could be an X-Factor player.
Yeah, I think when you're inexperienced in the playoffs,
it's just like, I don't know how to adjust to the adjustment.
I don't know how this...
But I think a coach is supposed to do that, right?
What's his name?
He's a good coach, Buddenholzer or whatever.
Yeah, but he didn't make the adjustments.
It's like you found out exactly what they were doing with Johnnis.
You know what they were going to do.
You know that you weren't going to win with Johnnis.
First of all, you sit Bledsoe down. He
sucked it up. And then you let
Chris Middleton cook.
Chris Middleton, he can
give you 30. Just let him go
for it. I think that they
lived and died with Jonas, essentially.
And they didn't have any of their
role guys really step up. Where was
Brogdon? Was he killing it? No.
Games 1 and 2, he
did great. The fucked up thing is
and people have said this before
but it's like, playoff games
are often won by role players.
Look at Iggy.
Right? One of the greatest things
about Golden State is they have
all-star
role players.
Sean Livingston off the bench is your backup to Steph.
And if you're Kyle Lowry, you're barely six feet tall,
and Sean Livingston gets it eight feet away from the basket,
there's nothing you can do.
The only hope is you're just strong enough to bully him the fuck out.
Even then, he does that little turnaround.
He has one shot.
It's a little turnaround on the baseline.
And he gets his arms up so high
you can't block it. And the assumption is
I'm going to have a little point guard on me. I'm six
what is he? Five?
Minimum. Six, six.
And long. I'm just going to shoot over you.
Simple as that.
So it's like that you got to be able to
make adjustments and I just don't think
I don't think that the Milwaukee organization was able to make them.
I think next year they might take a step back.
I think within the next two years they can win it all.
Now the tricky thing is that's how many years Giannis has left on his deal.
Right.
And I don't know if he's going to go anywhere.
The city seems to love him.
It was pretty beautiful there.
Did you guys see when he showed up back in Milwaukee?
No.
It was pretty cool.
There were people waiting for him at the airport just chanting mvp and like that's how
you keep a star no it is how you keep a star now oklahoma city tried it i think and they were like
but they also had the mr unreliable newspaper headline that's it simple you turn on me
motherfucker i dare you like small i'm sorry small market you can't have freedom of press
like new york say whatever you want you're an okc he got no reason to be there he's doing y'all a
fucking favor he okay i'll be okay but for real like think about that like you have to do everything
in your power to keep that celeb there because he's losing money by staying in OKC.
Right.
He goes to the tech hub of the world.
You know how much money he probably made just in investments?
According to Carl Lentz, he made a lot of money.
He tripled his net worth.
It's like –
Let me ask you this Warriors question.
I wanted to ask a Toronto question or something.
I wanted to ask something else, but I forgot what it was.
But this is something I noticed.
Klay Thompson didn't get All-NBA.
Yeah, yeah.
They made a big deal about that.
And he was seemingly—
So what happens with that?
I think there's some contract thing if you make All-NBA.
I didn't even know about the contract situation.
All I know is—and if you guys can look into that, that'd be great.
This is my assumption.
All I know is, and if you guys can look into that, that'd be great.
This is my assumption.
I think in order to get a certain super max, I think in order to get a super max contract,
you have to be on an all NBA team.
Right.
So if you miss the all NBA team, you're available for the max, but not the super.
Okay.
So he lost $40 million.
He lost his super max.
Because he's not all NBA.
Wow.
It's like a lot of money. If you're Klay, do you want KD back at all?
Because if KD's not there, we're watching this version of Klay all season.
Do we think he doesn't make third team all NBA?
Has to.
No fucking question he does.
Has to.
Massive.
You want to talk about who's made the biggest sacrifice?
Klay, bro.
One step.
Financial.
Now it is $40 million I just left on the table.
Damn.
Financial.
I saw a tweet.
I don't know if it's real, but I saw a tweet saying that Clay was in Toronto for Game 6
against the Bucs.
He was, like, scouting.
Really?
Yeah, I love that. If that's true that's true i love that dude if you are
any team with cap room yeah do you go after clay the hardest here's the thing my fear with clay is
this if he's the best player on his team he'll be exposed i, like we were talking about KD, I think Steph
makes Klay really good.
I think Klay also makes Steph
have to work less hard on the perimeter.
See, that's the thing.
Like, okay,
does he?
Steph is creating his shots
from being Steph, right?
It's these crazy deep threes,
these step backs running around.
What is Klay?
I think the team defense is why Steph
isn't exposed as a terrible defender.
The defensive team of Golden State
is good. So Draymond and Klay.
Defensively, sure. Steph is regular
defender, right? Maybe not even
good. Maybe even put there. But I'm
just talking about if you're
getting Klay to be on your
team, to be your best player
you need him give you buckets here's what i meant let me read let me reword my question
because i think i came i was thinking from a mavericks point of view because that they got
luca and i i know clay is already there everybody's 1a if you everything you wanted with harrison
barnes is clay does he seem more get am i crazy? I think he seems more gettable now that the Supermax is off the table.
And you could go to his ego and be like, look, man, you ate $40 million for KD.
So, and again, I got to understand the trade more.
You could look this up, Edwin.
But I think not getting the Supermax makes you want to stay home even more
because your original team can offer you the biggest contract?
Still?
Yes, because they have the ability to offer you one more year than everybody else.
Five years.
So if he made the All-NBA team, he could get five years for $221 million.
Right.
Not making it five years, $191 million.
So he lost $30 million over five years.
He lost $30 million.
Plus, if he leaves, he gets a four-year deal, I think.
I don't think he...
I think only...
Yes.
So he's losing...
So your sell to him then would be in four years...
Hold on one second.
He's losing, if he leaves, $70 million.
Wow. So he would get, what, four years for $120?
He'd get four.
No, he's going to get four years for $151.
Around.
Right?
Yeah, okay.
So he's losing an extra.
But here's what you would say to Clay, I think.
Listen, four years, you'll get another contract.
The salary cap will be higher.
You can make that money.
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
Which is why a lot of players end up leaving because it's like, look, I'm going to make the money back, whatever.
Right.
Now, I think you would have to go to him with the ego play of, look, man, have you not given enough for this fucking team?
Have you not sacrificed enough?
Yeah, he has.
And you have the right to go get it.
I just don't think he can carry.
I don't think he can carry either.
I don't think he can carry, but I think as a number two, he's one of the best ever.
So that's the question, right?
It's like, where does he go be number two?
How many teams have the number one?
How many teams have a legit number one?
Have number one and cap space?
How many teams just have a number one?
Who's he going to be?
He ain't going to be number two to Kemba. He ain't going to be number two to Jason Tatum. The Bucs can create some cap space? How many teams just have a number one? Who's he going to be? He's going to be number two to Kemba.
He's going to be number two to Jason Tatum.
So the Bucs can create some cap space.
They have to give up a lot.
He would be a huge step up from Chris Middleton.
He's a super Chris Middleton.
Yeah.
Right?
And don't get me wrong,
he'd be getting a lot of buckets
because you just put him on the same side of the floor as Giannis.
Giannis needs to get everybody.
They come over and double?
Yeah.
Now you're wide open.
Yeah.
But he needs to be in that situation where there is a legit number one.
And we're talking about Giannis.
We're talking about one of the best players in the league, right?
Yeah.
So this is kind of scary.
As great as Klay is, he can only be saddled to a black hole of a player that's just going to have the entire defense gravitating toward him so he can get his buckets.
I mean, if you're the Lakers, you make it crazy.
I think you push for Klay over everyone else.
Yeah, because you got LeBron.
And you got your father played here, man.
Oh, yeah.
There's reasons to go.
There's reasons to go.
If you're the Clippers and you want to get two free agents, he's the number two guy you get.
I think if you're the Mavs and you think Luka's going to be great, great which i think he's gonna be really fucking good yeah you can say look man here's a
guy who can find you whenever you're open go play d go help money nothing we also got chris tabs if
he's remotely healthy we're good like we're you're not gonna get all the attention you're good go i
think three teams at least should make a super hard push for clay hard. Here's a question. If the Mavs have Klay,
does that stunt
Luka's growth?
I don't think so
because Klay's not...
The beauty of Klay
is a number two.
And again,
I think we should talk
about him as the greatest
number two ever
because he doesn't
demand the ball
other than to catch
and to shoot.
Right.
What do you have,
like, 50 points
and 11 dribbles
or whatever the fuck
crazy stat it was?
Like, how is that
not going to help you?
Hey, I'm just going to get you assists.
I don't need the ball.
I'll guard the other team's best defender and I don't need the ball that much.
Just get me shots and I'll knock them down.
I guess I just wonder if you stop seeing those step back threes from Luca, right?
You stop seeing like driving to the basket with the intent to score and you start seeing
him pass to Klay coming around some screen
and then pulling up.
I think that's something that would work itself out.
Maybe with a young player.
But if you're LeBron, this is your dream.
You said this years ago.
Go for it.
The ideal sidekick for LeBron is Klay.
He's perfect.
Go for it.
This is awesome.
You guys are saying that Klay's always going to be a number two.
He has no incentive to leave then.
If he's not going to a team to be a number one, why should he leave?
I think you would have to say to him.
So let's look at it like this.
This is a great point.
You could.
He's staying.
He's staying.
Think of the math, right?
I can see that.
I mean, listen, I got talked out of this pretty quickly.
No, I agree with you.
I think you could make the argument he's the best number two ever
simply because of how effective
he is defensively
like how many number twos
are that good
but like you said
if you know you're going to be
a number two
the only reason to leave
would be to get a super max
which Golden State
wouldn't offer you
right
can't offer you
now it's not even possible
what I heard before
is if they don't offer him
the super max
he's going to test the waters
but maybe that was just
a disrespect no no no like he can't offer him the Supermax, he's going to test the waters. But maybe that was just a disrespect or whatever.
No, no, no.
Like, he can't get a Supermax because he's not a-
Yeah, well, I'm saying before this happened.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
So now he's in a situation, Supermax not available.
Golden State can offer him.
They can take the cap hit, and they should.
They can offer him a max.
Which they will.
Which he'll be a number two which is
great he goes somewhere else he's a number two he's never going to be number one why not be a
number two at the place where you've won all these rings here's the thing what he doesn't want to be
is a number three and what is he not going to be when kd leaves number three exactly this is the
ideal scenario is he stays right the fuck where he is
and is back to Splash Brothers
and then NBA fans,
we get to have the most exciting team in the league back.
Say what you want about the,
and I've said everything about the Warriors.
It was fun.
Yep.
Yeah.
It was even fun to hate.
Yeah.
But when you see balls going in baskets,
it's hard to look away.
Yeah.
That's what we want. When you see these motherfuckers just chuck's hard to look away. Yeah. That's what we want.
When you see these motherfuckers just chucking shit up and back-breaking teams,
it's what we want.
I'm telling you.
There's a reason why you got all these fair-weather fans out here.
There's a reason why you got girls watching the NBA now
because you got these two cute light-skinned dudes chucking up threes from 40 feet.
It is cute.
It's mad cute.
It's adorable
if i was a girl that's what i want to watch look how high the ball goes i don't want an aggressive
ass dunk he could hurt his wrist do you know what i mean i want to see a dude hold his hand out like
he got a mammy that's that's something i can relate to as a girl right like this is this is the best thing wait for it for the nba you break up the super team
and create two more potential rivals rivals but like real teams yeah that's what the league wants
that's what the fans want who maybe doesn't't want it? Golden State fans? Go fuck yourself.
You've been to the finals five straight
times. And you're still going to go quite possibly.
And you still got to chase. I still think they're the team to beat
without KD. Probably.
They still the team. Probably.
You think they slap up on Toronto?
Yeah, they're winning.
I think they're winning. How many games do you think?
I ain't going to lie.
They might sweep. Nah, B.
That's a bold prediction, B. They might sweep.
That's a bold prediction, Ed.
That's how you make a bold prediction.
No, you said last week Ed said some dumbass bold prediction.
I don't think it goes seven.
No matter who wins, it doesn't go seven.
Damn.
Do you think the winning team is going to win four of the seven games?
Do you think that too?
I think the ball is going to go in the basket.
There.
And the victorious team is going to go in the basket. Yeah.
And the victorious team is going to have more points than the loser.
That's probably another thing that could happen, right?
How many players do you think are going to be on the court at one time?
I don't know.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you who can't win.
Yeah.
Milwaukee.
Yo.
Bold, son.
That is bold, son. I just don't think Milwaukee can win anymore, man.
Hey, you know what I think is going to happen?
I think if players get fouled in the act of shooting, they might shoot some free throws, bro.
I think that might happen out here, dude.
That is a realistic scenario.
For real.
No, for real.
And I got a sneaky suspicion.
It might be four quarters to these games, bro.
Holy shit, dog.
You need potential overtime. I think they're going to play all four. You need both teams playing all four quarters to these games holy shit dog you ain't got potential overtime
I think they're going to play all four
you think both teams play all four quarters
I know it's crazy to say but if I had money
and I had to put my money down
I would say they're going to be minimum
four quarters bro
oh shit dog
y'all want to know some crazy shit
I got a feeling when they dribble
on the ball they're only going to use one hand at a time dribble the ball they only gonna use one hand at
time i really think they're gonna use one hand at a time bro oh fuck it's nuts out here ain't it oh
bro holy shit i hate you guys so much oh my god tim and then i'm paid hey that's what's up
but that's a real money to save Warriors and Four.
Warriors and Four, you think it's a sweep?
I don't think so, y'all.
I think y'all are tripping on some shit.
Y'all, I had a crazy thought earlier today, man.
Because I was talking to my boy, and a lot of shit is going right for my boy, right?
Unlike you, shit is going all wrong it couldn't be going more
on every shit hits a detour turn left please turn left uh and i was yo, the assumption is that karma is a way to like make people obedient, right?
Like that's the Western assumption of karma, right?
That karma operates in the same way that heaven operates, right?
A, you better do good because if not, karma is going to come get you.
I think that's how Westerners understand the idea of karma right but what if karma was invented the inception was a way to handle the good things that happen in your life
what if here you are this person is succeeding around so much suffering and it's a way of
processing and enjoying that success amongst all these people who are not being successful
without having that success
be ruined by guilt?
What if it's a way of going,
hey,
yeah,
maybe I did something
really good to deserve this.
Therefore,
I can enjoy it
instead of going,
oh my God,
you're living such a hard life.
You're living such a hard life.
I can see both lines of thinking
because back in the day,
I could see the one dude
who's successful
in the millions dying.
Dying around him.
I could be like,
yo,
I got to think of something so I don't feel so fucking guilty. But I in the millions dying. Dying around him. Be like, yo, we need,
I gotta think of something so I don't feel so fucking guilty.
But I must earn this somehow.
Hey, last life.
I was the man.
Because he knew this life you ain't.
You know?
And I could also see a bunch of people being like,
yo, we don't got shit.
This guy got everything.
How do we incentivize him to give us something?
Yes.
So I could see either. I'm gonna name drop now. got shit this guy got everything how do we incentivize him to give us something yes so i
can see either i'm gonna name drop now but uh it just because it is very poignant uh i had the
coolest experience ever hanging out with bill burr last night at the comedy cellar yeah and
and he was randomly talking about karma because he there's this interview he did with barry katz
who was this like notorious like manager but piece of shit like stole from everybody like hilarious and he did his podcast barry cats podcast and apparently he just scorches barry
cats to his face i need to hear this dude i gotta go i was just complaining about the barry cats
podcast two weeks ago and when when burr gets in the zone oh he locks in it's jordan it's just like
everything's dropping it's steph right so it's like comedically he has a bit. So he was telling this story.
He goes, he's like, yeah, I believe in karma.
Is he comedian Clay Thompson?
Underrated.
Dude.
Underrated.
But knocked down.
And when he's on fire, there's nothing like it.
Does not miss.
Does not miss.
He definitely has his own team though.
Oh, he's an alpha.
Yeah, he's Steph.
Okay.
So it's like, or Reggie.
Oh, shit.
You know what I mean?
The Black Jordan.
Yeah.
The Black Jordan's next.
Yeah.
So it's like, he goes, he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, I believe in karma, but I think
it only works if you believe in it.
I'm like, what do you mean?
He's like, because this guy Barry Katz, he just doesn't believe in it so he's a piece of shit and it works out the guy was so notoriously awful dude
he kept going over thing after thing how we would fuck over comics he would do this thing where he'd
book a college gig right for like 10 grand oh no he was doing this for years with chapelle
he would book chapelle
to play the college when he knew chapelle wasn't able to play the college because he was doing an acting gig and then the day before sometimes the day of he'd call the college back chapelle can't
make it wow and then he called up bill burr bobby kelly or these guys like hey i got 300 bucks for
you if you want to do a college wow right so the only reason they found out that he
was keeping the other like ten thousand dollars for the gig is because sometimes the college kid
would fuck up and give them an envelope with the check and they'd open the check and they'd be like
15 grand wow we're getting 500 bucks fuck and they'd be like how much you getting 500 so they'd
be like dude and then and this is a perfect example of barricades so they were like what's up with
this 15 000 check we're only getting $500.
And then Barak Etzer was just like, all right, you got me.
I'll give you an extra $700.
He just had no – he was like, even in the interview when I'm just roasting, leaving in,
he's just kind of laughing along with it.
And then as somebody's laughing, you're like, I guess it's not that big a deal.
Wait, he's saying this to the guy's face?
To his face in the interview. Oh, that. I got to see this that big a deal. Wait, he's saying this to the guy's face? To his face.
Holy shit. In the interview.
Oh, that.
I got to see this.
That's crazy.
If I don't give a fuck, no.
Oh, you don't care.
You don't care.
And just like going at him, relentlessly going at him.
Because the guy stole from everybody.
Barry Katz.
How is he still like?
So he had, from what they were explaining to me, He had an amazing amount Of real estate
Within the comedy business
So he was
A manager
A booking agent
So he was double dipping on clients
Right
So he'd get
His 10% deal as a manager
And then
It was college booking
So you pay college bookers
20%
So he's taking 30%
Off of college
You know
Manager, booking agent
And then I think he also had a production company
or something like that and then he had all these like one-nighter gigs up in new england
and he had a fucking comedy club the boston comedy club i thought was his yes so like if you're a
comic especially in the new york area you're like well if i want to work i gotta you gotta go to
berry i can't ruffle the feathers yeah you and, but it was amazing to hear these comics say the fucking dirt bag things that
this guy,
and I said,
how did nobody punch this guy in the face?
Yeah,
that's what I'm saying.
And he's like,
it was close.
It was very close.
A lot of people were very close,
but he just kind of smiled his way out of it.
Wow.
And now he's having this resurgence with this podcast.
I can't handle listening to the podcast.
I fucking hate his voice. Really?
Yeah, it's just so like smarmy. Who'd you try to listen to?
I tried to listen to the Russell Peters interview.
Oh, okay. And then off jump, he's
saying like, I saw you with
Torgasm, you were there, and Dane was there,
and I said, this guy's gonna be the next star.
And I was like, you didn't say shit. Why didn't you sign him if you thought he was gonna be
so fucking big? Fucking loser.
I'm so irritated. I just turned it
off. I was like, I can't handle this bullshit. I never never listened what's up with russell what's he up to now um i don't i
opened for him like a year ago right and he was engaged at the time and now he's not so i don't
know but russell somebody i have the utmost respect for haven't heard anything but good
things about him as a dude to comics.
Like, if you're a comic and you're opening for Russell,
and you don't have, like, he'll just buy you, like, a laptop or a cell phone if you don't have a good cell phone.
Right.
Just go to the Apple Store, give him my name, you're good.
Right.
Like, just took care of people.
Yeah.
Do you think he's managing his money well?
I don't know.
I remember after the show, he took, melly mel was there like he's like
loves old school hip-hop you know the dj yeah yeah so like melly mel came through somebody else came
through some old school hip-hop dude i don't remember which one but like we all went to a
bar afterward he took the whole caroline staff paid for everybody's stuff i assume but he seems
like he's still doing all right yeah i asked him about that clip um and i said like i don't remember what i asked
him this is a year and a half ago now but i was just like what was that like whatever and then
he said it's crazy that one clip made me millions and millions and millions and millions and millions
of dollars it was a nice little flex from him because he doesn't like to flex super hard with
me at least uh but it was just cool to i don't know it's cool to talk about about it a little
bit it's just interesting when you think about't know, it was cool to talk about it a little bit. It's just interesting when you think about money. I was talking to a buddy of mine, and we were talking about freedom.
I'm at a certain point in my career.
We're both at these different points in his career where he is more wealthy than me, but he still has a boss.
He still has someone
That he has to do his job
Or else he could
Potentially get fired
And there are certain
Protections he has
Etc
He likes his job
Loves his job
And you know him
Yeah
And
But
And like
I'm in this situation
Where you know
I'm not making
As much as him
But I'm very comfortable
But I also don't have
A direct boss
Like You know I was saying to Alex Really what we are Is we're like Farmers making as much as him but i'm very comfortable but i also don't have a direct boss like i you
know i was saying alex really what we are is we're like farmers yeah right like every bit of content
we put out that seeds that we're planting and then hopefully this grows the tour is the harvest
right and and these different things right but like even the podcast right we're harvesting we're
getting ads now we're doing these things Patreon And you know All this stuff
But it's like
We're really
Sowing these seeds
And then you know
Recruiting what we put out
But it's up to us
To put it out
And hopefully we have a connection
So you guys listen in
And then you know
You guys spread the word
Fuck with us
And there is
A freedom that comes from that
But there's another level of freedom
Yeah
The next level of freedom is
And it's true freedom is financial security
meaning what is your nut you need to hit say it's 20 grand a month after taxes whatever
that's true true freedom that's you can do whatever you truly want to do in your life.
You do the jobs you want to do.
I'm very fortunate that I was able to create jobs out of things I love.
And I don't want to do anything that I don't love doing.
But there's a version of that freedom.
And it's a freedom that rich kids have, the kids that grow up wealthy,
Right?
And it's a freedom that rich kids have, the kids that grow up wealthy,
and the weird dynamic of life, like how confusing life is, is oftentimes the people that have things did not earn them,
so they cannot appreciate them.
So these kids who actually have true freedom because they're financially set
never value it because they never understood what
sacrifice it takes to get there yeah right so we're talking about like how do you get to true
true freedom what is what is the best way right and it's obviously you can make a whole bunch of
money financial freedom well i think true true freedom requires it fuck you all my business
friends call fuck you money yeah fuck you money. Yeah, fuck you money. Great. To me, $3 million in an account.
Yeah, it's fuck you.
You can just make money off safe investments.
Right.
5%.
It's a pretty safe return.
Right.
I think the stock market average is $8.
$600,000.
That, yeah.
No, $150,000.
Yeah, $150,000 a year.
Yeah, yeah.
You can live off of that.
And then any money, any job you give me, if I don't want it, I'm good.
I have my money to live.
Right.
Fuck you. Fuck you. I don't need your money. And then you can do any job you give me, if I don't want it, I'm good. I have my money to live with. Right. Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I don't need your money.
And then you can do whatever you want to do.
You don't have to worry about being censored.
You don't have to worry about anybody saying anything, anybody taking what you have.
Because even if they take what you have, you still have.
Right.
Right?
So we were talking about ways to do this.
And for some people, probably listen right now,
the idea of just having $3 million is like,
what are you talking?
I make 50 grand a year.
How do I get $3 million?
You know?
And there's another way I think to get there.
And it is backing into your nut.
Right?
So let's say your nut is 10 grand a month right you can have passive income back you in
yeah right so you can have let's say you found a way to buy a house and now you're airbnb-ing it
or you're renting it let's say you have um you know your wife also has a situation like that or
you know let's say you guys do you know some online content where
you're getting these different things you just got to get to that 10 grand yeah right um via
passive income what if you only get to five okay but now you're only five grand in the hole every
month that's different that's part-time yeah or whatever it is side hustles are very important
and what happens is you can get to a point in passive income where you just need a side hustle for the rest of your life.
Yeah.
Right?
So I guess what we were trying to do is break down this task and make it less big.
And he told me about this thing.
I got to get the right thing.
But it's this investment app.
And these people, what they've done is they've done all the math, right?
And you choose the amount of risk you want to take.
Something like made simple or some shit like that.
There's a few of these.
Yes.
But what they do is they-
My best friend works for one of those companies, but I forget which one.
We got to talk to him.
Yeah.
We got to talk to him because-
Al, you farted?
I did.
All right.
So we got to-
We got to-
My nose is not like that no more.
We got to talk to him.
And because what it is is I'm a fucking idiot.
I just keep money in my fucking bank account because I have this like-
Yeah, everybody's been telling you this.
I know.
I'm financially illiterate.
Because I have this broke person mentality, right?
Like, which is just-
Like, I bought my apartment because my parents bought
real estate but they didn't they weren't financially literate they didn't know about
stocks yeah but you like stumbled into a really good investment i did but the only reason i went
to buy it is because my parents had one of my parents didn't have it then i wouldn't have i
just you know but my boy was explaining to me he's like dude if you just put 50 grand away
and you're making 10 on that in this program it. It's like, think about that. For the last eight years, you could have done that.
Yeah, I mean, 10% is high, but yeah, just for math's sake,
that's five grand a year.
Exponentially grown because you're adding to it.
It's like, oh, there's a book.
It's written by an Indian dude, so I have no problem plugging it.
It's called I Will Teach You to Be Rich.
If you're in your 20s, you have to get this book.
If you're in your 30s, I read it at 33
and then almost went
broke at 34 so i couldn't invest anything but uh it is a good book to read and it will just teach
you basics of money and like this is how you save for retirement i will teach you to be rich that's
what we need to do in this podcast i feel like on some level not only like financial we just need to
teach you know optimization you know we talk about like all the companies we want to be involved and
we want your balls to be full your dick to be hard all that kind of shit but like we need to
do simple shit because motherfuckers is eating steak well done you know i mean like there are
still people out here eating steak well done let me just say that pisses me off yo but alex quiet
because he used to eat it like that do you used to used to no but so think about white people
but but but real talk is like there are people out listen right now they're like wait you're
not supposed to eat it well done yeah right so like on some level we got a little responsibility
to be to be dropping jewels i'm just saying you show up to a business meeting right
and you guys are the steak restaurant you order your steak well done you're not closing that deal
unless you sign a deal with salmone, you are not closing that deal. Unless you sign a deal with Salmonella,
you're not closing that deal, right?
Because they're going to look at you like,
what the fuck is this guy going on?
He's got a fucking idiot.
Yeah.
So,
and now,
I know there's people listening right now,
they're like,
I don't get it.
What does it matter?
It doesn't matter.
You can have your steak however you want to have it,
but there are little cultural implications,
right?
Yeah.
Rich people also in particular have
a specific set of rules that they use to judge you because that's that's how they keep their
class structure yeah that's their that's their shitty way of thinking but it is their shitty
way of thinking so like code switch on them like all right i'm at this restaurant with this old
white dude i'm gonna get a steak medium or medium rare or whatever so we got to do that we got to
like think of fun like it could be funny ones too but it's like a lesson that we teach like how to tip like those motherfuckers
listeners don't know how to tip and the tipping system is idiotic we've talked about this at
length oh absolutely 20 total bills just fucking infuriates me i was thinking about it i swear i
was thinking about it this weekend why i don't even know it just randomly pissed me off life going well everything good about the NBA finals
this guy has one moment of clarity that's why they need to meditate son they would just piss
off about tipping that's what it was that's where fucking Hinduism started some waiter was like oh
so you're not gonna leave 20% they're like oh I need to pray I need to pray before I kill this
motherfucker yo in eighth grade I lost ten dollars. I need to pray before I kill this motherfucker.
Yo, in eighth grade, I lost $10, and I literally could not sleep the entire night.
I swear.
I woke up in the middle of the night at like 2 a.m., and I couldn't fall back asleep.
I was thinking about this $10 so much, man.
That shit ate away at me.
I got up early, went to school early, and looked in the place.
I walked into an all-teachers meeting to the classroom where I thought I lost my $10.
I was like, guys, I'm sorry, but I got to see if it's in here.
It ate away.
You ever find that $10?
No, man.
I still think about it.
I still follow it up to this day.
To this day.
To this day.
Oh, man.
Every time I lost money, dog. you know how often i lose ten dollars
son you know how often i just buy some shit don't fit and i'm like i guess i got some shit that
don't fit i don't even be returning shit bro it's fucked up man you know i actually done that a
couple times too which is an odd juxtaposition with me or whatever but like i'd be fucking
i mean i remember
every time i lost actual cash and shit every time i think about him like god damn i remember one
time i found 40 and lost 15 and still bothered me that could have made my net profit is affected
just think about this no no think about how much he's emotionally affected by losing money, right?
And now imagine last year as he was going broke for a whole year, son.
How you still got hair on your head?
That was not fun.
Bro.
I got grays out of it.
Grays in my beard.
Fucking out here looking like Donnell Rawlings.
How did he not get a hemorrhoid last year?
Yeah, real talk. How'd that stress not give you hemorrhage i don't know dog i avoided the hammer
damn you know i need some hemis that was rough though yeah that was rough so yeah so we got to
figure out shit we got to come like once a week as we learn shit we should you know yeah and as
we learn that there are people that don't know about shit. Like, real talk, I learned more about cleaning my ass from hanging out with you.
Yeah.
And your legs.
Oh, yeah.
And my legs.
Like, just not cleaning my...
So here's the thing.
We should tell them.
We stay at black Airbnbs when we're on the road.
That's just us.
Support black businesses.
We support black businesses.
We call them Air R&Bs.
Right?
And we...
And so... So... So we stay at our Air air RMBs Right And we And So
So
So we stay in our air RMBs
Right
Yo you gotta stay in black air RMBs bro
Air RMBs
Air RMBs so good
We in the air RMB bro
They don't
Smooth living
Let me tell you something
You know how like white people
Be having air RMBs
As like a business Yeah Black people still living In their air RMBs bro They didn't. Smooth living. Let me tell you something. You know how white people be having Airbnbs as a business?
Yeah.
Black people still living in their AirRMBs, bro.
They didn't even move the crib.
There was a crib where the baby, they left the baby with us.
I saw that video.
The baby's there.
Where the fuck are they staying?
We babysat the whole weekend.
The guy was like, yo, I'll be right back.
Just watch Lil' JJ for us.
And we're like, all right, I guess.
And then never came back in true black man fashion.
Dude probably legit left five minutes before we got there.
100%.
His laptop was still plugged in.
His laptop was plugged in.
One of the towels was wet.
He put some pictures up of black women so it looked like we weren't going to fuck up the place
because it would be disrespectful to black women.
But you know it was just him in there.
So that's the craziest thing that happened.
And we didn't even acknowledge this when we left.
So check out with that 12. Yeah. Dude just him in there The craziest thing that happened And we didn't even acknowledge this When we left So check out with that 12
Yeah
Dude just walked in at 1130
First time black person been early
Like
He didn't knock
Nah
He just walked in
It's his place
So whatever
But we're still
Not whatever though
We're still there
Yeah
And then he saw that we're there
He walked in and just started kicking it
Kicking it with a card Fucking funny though Walked his he walked in and just started kicking it like no like oh god you need a little what like nah i'm home now
yo that was the weirdest that shit well yeah it got intimate
but you're just so friendly so that's another thing we were learning just about like washing
your legs in the shower apparently white people don't wash their legs in the shower which is kind of true depends on how i feel yeah i don't i'm
hitting miss with that you're white too bro i don't know how do you not wash your legs far
it's just listen so far and i remember duval had a meme about this soap real talk armpits nuts
and the rest is like if i'm if i'm feeling energetic that day, we got it. You just said only armpits and nuts.
No, armpits, nuts, ass.
I can't bend over now with my hemorrhoid because my asshole pokes out.
All right.
But like, yeah, I mean, the rest of the water got that.
Dirty.
Yeah, I let the suds drip down.
But that's a white thing.
So now that we know that, we're coming across.
Yeah.
Like, Eden, you shower in a river.
So what is that experience like when you're at the mouth of a river and you're rubbing
stones against your dry skin to get it out?
Well, he's not showering.
He's just swimming across.
Yeah.
This is a freedom swim
I made it
I made it
I'm not gonna lie
That one got me off guard
Son
It's true bro
Yo so do y'all use washcloths
Or do y'all just do straight up soap
Son
Black ARMBs
Man washcloths
Man washcloths son more than the hotel
you know the hotel got like a bunch of different size washcloths a black rmb right there right next
to it it's big towel washcloth alex was using them shits they were all wet yep i ain't using
i went through three in three days that poor man gotta wash Your washcloths To bend on your ass
I can't believe
Y'all just
Y'all don't wash your legs
Your pants don't like
Stick to you and shit
You gotta understand
Like your legs
It's so
Little soap
It's so quick to clean
Yeah like
You're basically washing
A flamingo
You know what I mean
It's nothing for you
You just do that shit.
I think you could
detach your legs.
You got legs.
You really got,
you got removable legs, Alex.
So you just detach,
wash them,
you don't got to bend over.
Real talk.
That's what you're built like.
You're built like an angry bird.
You're built like an ostrich.
Ostrich.
Hey, I'm looking like this
Body like this
Head like this
That's a funny ass
Kevin Hart joke
You know Comedy Central
Cut that out of the TV airing
Like you have to watch
The Netflix special
To see the whole
Kevin Hart ostrich story
These fucking idiots These fucking idiots.
Anyway, we should probably
wrap it up, man, unless there's something else you really want to
hit. Yeah, sure.
Motherfucker. Jesus Christ.
What happened?
Ed, on it.
Boy, Ed.
You just said, fuck this guy.
You ain't shit. Isn't it funny though that every time he talks be like yo
what the fuck man i know that i love him dog it's just a funny little bit but that was actually
great i'm glad you brought that up um okay which would you okay this is this is this is this is a
dope hypothetical that we're gonna steal from espPN since they steal so much shit from us.
Facts.
I think they got it from online.
I saw it on, like, Rich's regular Twitter.
See, these motherfuckers probably stole it from someone else, even.
Okay, which one would you rather have seen happen?
MJ never retired the first time.
Shaq and Kobe never split up.
LeBron and Kobe faced off in the finals.
Derrick Rose never got injured.
Not even a question.
Derrick Rose never got injured Not even a question Derrick Rose
Never got injured
Really?
You're talking about
At the youngest MVP
In the history of the game
Unstoppable force
I would love to see
What he ended up doing
I mean this is him young
This is him at
How old was he?
When he started getting injured?
Two something like that
Right?
So he's that young
Starting to get injured
Imagine when he starts
Developing a
Consistent jumper And he has that Explosiveness to injured. Imagine when he starts developing a consistent jumper
and he has that explosiveness of that basket.
You're looking at one of the best ever.
The guy was MVP at 20.
He might be.
22, I think he was MVP.
22.
23, I think he got hurt.
Like dominating.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now that I think about it.
Because all the other ones are just like,
I kind of like that Kobe, MJ, I mean, Kobe, LeBron, Faso.
Because the top two are just, you just want to see people win more.
This is the only one that really shakes the course of NBA history.
Like, MJ, let's say he keeps playing or he doesn't.
He's still going to be the GOAT.
These guys never split up.
Okay, maybe they win a couple more rings,
but Kobe ended up doing it and so does Shaq.
I think it's better for Kobe they did split up.
Of course.
100% better for Kobe's legacy if they did split up.
But this one right here changes every other discussion surrounding the Bulls, Derrick
Rose, point guards.
I mean, bro.
This one right here fucks with Iverson's legacy.
Word.
Yeah.
Derrick Rose ends up having that type of
career maybe even sneaks out a ring that's I've that now you're talking Iverson and I know he
loves Tibbs and Tibbs made him a better player but I think you also got to blame Tibbs for the injury
I think 45 minutes a game ain't good for anybody 100% yep 100 100 and on some level i think maybe that's why tibbs resigned him
oh maybe it was like i gotta give him an opportunity i gotta do this right i gotta
do the right thing maybe i'm gonna sign you when nobody wants you that's a good that's another good
discussion which is like what happens with derrick rose next year yeah he had a great season yeah i
think he wants to just stay with tips as long as tips is in
minnesota he's gonna stay with him he loves out though tips out yeah they fire tips they got a
new coach i completely forgot yeah so it's like i mean he demonstrated skill he demonstrated he
could stay healthy like yeah yeah he dribbles the ball a lot but he could definitely be on a
new orleans or be on one of these teams that's like.
A championship team that needs a bench, that's your guy.
Ew.
And no ego.
So that's a different discussion.
I was like, does he start on a team that is shitty,
or does he come off the bench on a team?
I think if you're him, you want to come off a bench of a team that's good.
That's the one thing you haven't really, since your MVP season.
Okay, this is wild.
Maybe this is just me being a little bit indulgent here.
If you're the Clippers, do you make a move and then have your bench be –
You got to.
Real talk, I put them in at the same time.
I go six and seven.
You guys go in there and terrorize the B defense.
Right.
The second they sub in their B defense, I go give them Lou, give them Derek.
What you going to do?
And then just go, hey, Derek, Lou, go him.
Back and forth possessions.
Just go nut.
I like it.
I like it.
But you got to get a max guy to make that Clippers teamwork.
Yes.
But still, like that will be, and Doc is going to respect, Max guy to make that Clippers team work. Yes. But still, that would be...
And Doc is going to respect...
He's going to respect Doc.
Doc's going to respect him.
Dude, that would be a fun...
You're there for the second quarter.
You're showing up to the game, which is when these guys go for the relentless crossover.
It's M1.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the number one.
Never got injured.
I would like to have seen the Kobe Lakers and the Miami LeBron.
I would like to have seen that.
You want it more than Derek?
No, no, no.
Not more.
Derek Rose, number one.
That's number two.
Miami LeBron.
Wait.
When LeBron was on the heat.
Oh, he went up against Kobe.
Go against Kobe.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Kobe would have relished that.
So here's, all right, maybe, look, we're always coming up with good stuff towards the end.
So here's an interesting conversation, right?
There's all these NBA players, right?
For the first time, they're going to the promised land.
And they've dedicated their entire lives to this moment.
Right.
Right? To winning this this goal right you know
there's little goals on the way like making it to the nba was a little goal but prior to making it
it was always i'd love to win an nba championship because that's the pinnacle of your existence as
a player right so in these moments where are you in terms of the hurricane? Right? If the hurricane is the moment
Right?
If the hurricane is this approaching thing
Right?
Are you
Very fewer at the eye
Very fewer at the eye of the storm
And I'm not saying I would be
Who's an eye guy?
Who's an eye guy?
Steph is kind of an eye guy maybe
Steph is an eye guy
Even though maybe that's revisionist history
Kobe's an eye guy
Kobe's an eye guy Michael was an eye guy More than anybody revisionist history kobe's an eye guy kobe's
an eye guy michael was an eye guy more than anybody in history in our lifetimes those are
the eye guys larry bird seemed like an eye guy larry bird eye guy magic eye guy so and then what
can you prepare your child to be an eye guy can you prepare the tiger woods book i should just
give it to you it's just great This is the one where he's trying.
Yeah,
that's what his dad did.
He prepared him his entire life
to be an eye guy.
And?
It worked.
How?
I mean,
he was like horrendous.
Like,
as Tiger was on his backswing,
he would like heckle him,
like call him the N-word.
Like,
you are unflappable.
I'm going to make it
to where nothing
distracts you from winning.
You are going to be
the toughest son of a bitch
on earth.
And then they had a word.
He was like,
if you ever say enough, I'll stop.
Tiger never said enough.
Tiger refused to ever say to his dad enough.
His dad would just get meaner
and meaner and meaner.
Crueler and crueler and crueler.
And he said to his tiger,
look, if you ever want me to stop.
Stupid ass wife thought
that her little nagging
with a golf club was going to do shit.
Just chasing with a golf club.
You think I'm going to say enough now, bitch?
Bitch, you think a little
four iron is going to stop me, bitch?
Bitch, I got a navigator.
I'm driving a navigator.
Work on your back swing, bitch.
Bitch, we can send you back to Norway.
I can't send my dad away from being my dad.
Alright, bitch.
You ain't doing nothing.
But that's an interesting thing
so you think it's possible
to build the constitution
of
an eye at a hurricane
yeah I think so
I mean it doesn't always work
and I remember we asked
Roy Jones Jr. about that
and he was like look
I was
I think what he said was
I was tough enough to handle that
not a lot of kids are
he said Joe Jackson
got treated
no he said Tito got treated
the same as Mike
but he didn't become Mike
yeah and and then he said likeito got treated the same as Mike. But he didn't become Mike.
And then he said like certain guys just weren't treated that hard.
And then they ended up getting there anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a tough thing. And I think he felt like he didn't need to be treated that way.
Yes, I think that was his way of saying I would have rather like a cool relationship with my pops.
And Tiger probably would have been great regardless.
But I do think that was like an extra.
Yeah, from what I've read in this book,
that was an extra,
like he is unflappable in big moments
because it's like you cannot do worse to me
than what's already been done.
I have to lean into those moments, I've noticed.
It's a choice I have to make.
Interesting.
Like I have to turn the nerves to excitement.
I have to, yeah. And then I can lock in but it's it is a
decision because i can be watching a fight that i'm not you know that i'm not in obviously i'm
just invested in the fighters and i can be like so on my anxiety nerves etc right and then but
then there can be a moment like with like doing rogan which was like to me the
biggest thing right and i mean alex what would you say i would say i was pretty locked in yeah
i remember before i actually were nervous and shit like you kind of seemed like you were just
in the zone yeah i felt in the eye i i feel uh the seizure moment was another one like yeah you
were kind of like oh shit shit, what's going on?
You were concerned with the girl.
You were there.
Yeah.
And then something just clicked and you're like, oh shit, no one's on stage?
That's interesting.
You know what?
That music just started playing in your head and it was like.
I was in the eye.
Yeah.
No, that is interesting.
That shit was amazing.
Not to suck your dick, but that shit was amazing.
Bro, but no.
But you know what?
There's an interesting thing about it, which is, like, maybe I'm more anxious with other people's stuff.
Like, I would be more anxious.
Like, let's say you're taping your special.
Yeah.
I would be more anxious for you because I couldn't control.
Right, right, right.
The environment.
Yeah.
And I wonder, like, with children.
But with me, if it's for me, like, the what's Yeah And I wonder like With children Like but with me
If it's for me
Like the
What's it called thing?
The seizure
The seizure shit
It was so interesting
I wasn't nervous
It felt like the right thing to do
Right
And it was the eye
And there was a hurricane going on
And that shit could have went
Horribly
Horrible
But it just felt right
Maybe that's it
Maybe Yeah maybe when like But it just felt right Maybe that's it Maybe
Yeah maybe when like
Things are meant for you to do
You just do them
But it is so nerve wracking
When someone else is doing them
Because you're invested in that person
Like I'm gonna want you to do great
But I can't do great for you
The more people are nervous for me
The more nervous I get
The more I hate it
I'm like yo
I just wanna be in a room by myself.
I don't want... Right. Because I'm dealing with my nerves.
I also think people can
get closer to center.
I think some people can't,
but I think Kobe early
on wanted to be an eye guy, wasn't
quite an eye guy. I remember he airballed two
shots against the Jazz in the playoffs or something like that.
But then as you get more used to it, you're like, oh, this is the
hurricane. I want to be at the center.
I'll get there.
This is the center.
Everything's fine.
I've been here before.
Build towards it.
Yeah.
I think a lot of it is kind of boring.
But yeah, I always notice when people are nervous for me, I'm like, oh, stop.
I don't want that.
Yeah, it's too much pressure.
Let me deal with this.
That's why it's often you don't want, at least for me, my parents or close friends at shows.
Hate them at shows.
Because it's like, I know that this, I know you're concerned for me, like my parents or like close friends at shows. Hate them at shows. Because it's like,
I know that this,
I know you're concerned for me.
Yes.
And I don't want that.
And I don't want that.
And I'm not calm,
like the storm guy,
whatever,
but I know the worst thing for me
is when everybody else
gives a fuck.
Then I'm like,
yo, I don't need that.
I'll handle this.
Because I got this
and then if something happens,
I'm okay with that. Yeah. But I'm also like creating this environment i'm not gonna say i'm okay with it but like i extra don't
want now you're let down now i'm like oh fuck here we go yes you came you don't understand the dynamic
that's happening here like you don't understand like yes i know this joke does that and it happens
50 of the time and i'm working on making it happen zero percent but right now it's a 50 50 right you're just like oh boy that joke really doesn't work it's like you don't get
it just yet you know yeah that's interesting it's fascinating like it's it's something that can be
built and what a tricky thing with being a parent like i bet there's people listening right now that
you have kids and like you're making these tough decisions on how to raise them and it's like how far do you push your kid to
prepare him for the eye like is it worth sacrificing your relationship with your kid i think no
emphatic no right because we can't matter of fact you said this to me we're talking about the mom's
relationship with the son versus the dad's right and you're like i think that with any kid i think
the dad's relationship is more important right until a certain age i think dad's like is like
meaningless until like in like until you're like 13 i think yeah in terms of how you turn out as a
man or woman yeah i think it's more important your relationship with your dad that has a bigger
impact on it yes for both male and females i think so yeah but especially as you get older because
it's uncon it's not unconditional.
Your mother's love is unconditional, and we know that,
and we take advantage of unconditional.
Your mom will forgive you for whatever you do.
Yeah, and I think to that—
You never see a dad pick up their kid in jail, right?
You watch all those jail shows.
It's never the dad like, ah, so great to see you, Todd.
It's the mom, right?
Yeah.
Like how often does the dad just go you're cut off
you're out of this family
you're dead
because we're more objective
right
the baby doesn't come out of us
yeah
you know
but that motherly love
which is valuable
it's so important
right
you know this is
this is
oh shit
yeah I didn't see that
this was a good debate
because I'm more leaning
towards the side of
pushing them
like pushing them even
right even risking the relationship so fucking up because look all right me as an adult now
yep if my dad pushed me to be great i can appreciate it now well our relationship might
have been fucked up but i think as an adult right in retrospect i'd be like yo i see what you were
doing i didn't get it in the moment
But if you don't push them
You never know
Their full potential
Right
Like I think part of the reason
Why you're so good
Is like you talk about
How your parents
Pushed you to be confident
And they always wanted to hear
What you had to say
Yeah but they didn't push me
They were so
They coddled
No but I mean like
They were encouraging
Right
Right right
They're involved So it's like now You're in During a profession Where you talk all the time me they were so they caught i mean like they were encouraging right right right they're very
involved so it's like now you're in during a profession where you talk all the time right
and so it's like you they curated that 100 without even knowing they built that they said
they plan to see i'm gonna probably push as much as i could i will because you know if you have a
jordan or serena williams or something like that's like, at the end of the day, they're gonna, they all have good relationships with
their parents as they got older.
It might have been rough.
It's a risk.
Yeah, it's a risk.
Tiger was fucked with his dad.
Roy Jones seemed fucked with his dad.
Yeah, no, there are people where it doesn't work.
Jordan didn't seem like he got pushed a ton.
So that's the thing.
I think in some of us, I think I have a relentless competitiveness, right?
Yeah, I think it has to be in you and i
think that you're born with that i think some people are born that some aren't but i think
that if you're not you can push yeah and get manifest it like get his clothes like you know
some people are have natural like ability athletic ability and then some people got to work for it
but oftentimes the people who work for it end up being more effective right yeah like
tim duncan was not the most athletic right player but he got the fundamentals down in the game he
was one of the most right you know effective guys etc it's just an interesting balance it's like
how much of your relationship with your kid will you sacrifice so that they can be safe in the
world and succeed in the world because whoa yeah because about it. Tiger moms, not to be stereotypical, but Asians are fucking killing it.
Ask Indians.
Asians are killing it in America, and their parents don't accept anything less than an
A.
Well, ask.
So, Akash.
Well, yeah.
Hold on.
What's this?
It's John Morant signing a deal with Nike.
But go on.
I don't.
Well, here's what I was going to bring up.
I don't know if this seems like it applies,
but I do think it applies.
I always remember this study that said
that parents that praise their kids for achievement,
those kids don't do as well as the parents
who praise their kids for hard work.
Like if the parents are always like,
yo, you work so hard, man.
Great for you.
You work so hard.
Great for you.
Those kids tend to do better than the ones who were like oh you got straight a's oh
you got this first place trophy oh you got this that's interesting and i was always rewarded for
hard work and i'm not regardless of outcome yeah and i'm not naturally the academic achievement
kid i wasn't but it's like okay fine well i can't fucking outwork all of you let's go like you won't stop me from working and that's the thing i feel good about internally
when i'm working hard because it's something oh that's it you have to i mean look at all of us
none of us have kids we're talking about parenting but you have to reward something that is in their control.
They cannot control outcome.
If you're saying that your kid played horribly because he didn't win, right?
It's not rewarding losing, but if he played hard because he didn't win, his whole life will be based on this structure of win and lose.
And often he might avoid the big challenges because those challenges come with potential loss.
Right.
But if hard work is what is rewarded, a relentless attitude will be applied to whatever you do because you understand that is the key to success.
And then you won't be afraid of those big challenges because when you don't achieve them, you go, well, I guess I got to work a little harder.
Yeah.
There's always more that can be done.
And watching like I got little brothers, little sisters, whatever.
My little cousin, he's two years younger than me, but he like runs marathons.
He finishes like at a pretty good clip.
He's a fast runner.
But the thing I always am impressed by, and I'm saying it'll probably be easier to praise your kids for this, is like his discipline is insane.
Every macronutrient that he eats before the race is measured out perfectly he run you know like
it's incredibly disciplined and that's what I'm always like yo man fuck that's the thing I marvel
at and I assume when I have kids if my kid is not really working hard and getting straight A's I'm
gonna be impressed but I'm gonna be proud of my kid when I see him busting his ass even if he gets
a B or two I'm gonna be like yo I saw you put in work and I promise that will pay off I'm proud of my kid when I see him busting his ass even if he gets a B or two. I'm going to be like, yo, I saw you put in work and I
promise that will pay off. I'm proud of that.
I'm impressed by straight A's
if you don't work. I might have a genius,
but I'm proud of the hard
work. That's the thing that's easier for me
to praise just off pride.
Good for you, man. No clue how hard the test
is, what the competition is. It's a stupid thing
to reward. It's just the A's. But what if he's
working super hard for a D?
Hey, man, maybe this is not for you, but
you keep working, something will work out.
This is the beauty of America. That work ethic applied
to some other shit
will be an A in the other shit.
This is the privilege of America, and I'm not even
saying this in a condescending way. I'm saying this is how we're blessed.
If you work your ass off,
you might not be super rich, but you will
be okay. You will be fine. You will be comfortable. You could hit middle be super rich, but you will be okay.
You will be fine.
You will be comfortable. You could hit middle here.
Yeah, but devil's advocate, what if you're teaching your kid to be okay with failing?
It's like, oh, I worked hard.
I want my kid.
Real talk, I encourage my kids to fail.
Yes.
If you're not failing, you're not trying hard enough.
No, no, no.
Accepting failure.
No, no, no.
That's the other tricky thing.
He makes an interesting point.
The idea of accepting failure. That's something you've got to navigate. That's hard enough. Accepting failure. No, no, no. That's the other tricky thing, right? He makes an interesting point. The idea of accepting failure.
That's something you've got to navigate.
That's something you've got to balance, right?
It's like you shouldn't want to fail.
And you shouldn't be okay.
Right?
It is.
Yeah, yeah.
It's tricky.
You understand what he's saying, right?
I do.
In my mind, the thing I think I try to say to, and again, kids are different than little
brothers, sisters, whatever, but like little cousins, I'm like, yo, there's no failure. There are learning experiences. Learn from this. Yes. the thing I think I try to say to and again kids are different than little brothers sisters whatever
but like little cousins
I'm like yo
there's no failure
there are learning experiences
learn from this
yes
learn from this
what you can
move forward
and now if you keep failing
at this thing
we really need to re-examine
some shit
right
but like
this is not
it's okay to fail
as long as you learn something
yeah
yeah yeah
yeah
I'm not
we're not proud of failure
yeah right we're not proud of failure Yeah
Right
We're not like patting you on the back
For failure
Right
But there are ways to fail
That are better than others
Yeah
Right
And when you've
Done all the work
If you prepared the best
You possibly could prepare
Yeah
And you still don't get the grade
That you want on that test
You can't be too upset.
Yeah.
What can we do differently?
We'll find different ways.
Yeah.
But we did everything we thought we could do.
Yeah.
Now you just learn.
That's what this was.
And then we learn from this.
Yeah.
I think that's it. Yeah.
So now when you apply that to sports, all right,
they're in the gym shooting.
They're just not gifted.
That's going to happen.
So now they just keep going because you
have rewarded their hard work so it's like it's like a it's like a soundcloud rapper now no we
problem solve right you go like this this is what i i mean this is what i do like listen you can
always work on shit and get better but it's like we problem solve what am i working with what do
i have us what do you oh you can't shoot for shit all right that's fine can you play d can you rebound what parts of the game shit can you coach are you good good are you
a good teammate are you good at filling up space you're good at working off the ball can you pass
well but now you're like kind of redirecting what they want to do instead of just encouraging them
you got we got to be honest with who we are.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
I'm going to tell my kid he can do anything he wants, right?
But you got to go for it.
And if you ain't going to go for it,
I'm not the one to force you to do a sport.
You got to play a sport because you love it.
What I'm trying to say is you find a way to be effective in the game.
That's what I would always try to do.
I find a way to be effective.
We're never raised you can do anything you want.
That's not it, General Eastern.
You can do anything you want if's not it You can do anything you want
You want to be a doctor
Or an engineer or an MBA
That's what you want
Yeah that's what we want
No it's a good
This is a western thing you can do whatever you want
Yo Andrew go have a kid
And let's try this out
Who had a kid?
His hemorrhoid
Oh god Scared me and let's try this out who had a kid? his hemorrhoid scared me
yeah man I don't know we'll figure it out
when I have some kids we'll have another discussion
about this and we'll see how we are
I might be a complete softie to be honest with you
I'm concerned I'm going to be a softie
I'm going to have to put hard shit on my wife
oh 100% yo kids get away with everything with me with you. I'm concerned I'm going to be a softie and I'm going to have to put hard shit on my wife. Oh, 100%.
Yeah.
Kids get away with everything with me.
What do you mean? If you guys are
already thinking you're going to be the softie. Of course, if I got a
fucking daughter.
That's on wifey.
100%. What if I got a daughter and she got a
mustache and her dad got to tell her
guys think that's gross?
Son.
I got to tell my wife
to do that right like yo watch your mustache you little monster it was gonna be so hairless
you know what i mean you could barely even grow a mustache so like you're fine
she might have a hairy ass she might have a crate a wild hairy ass oh my god she might have a wolf
ass but you're not gonna know i'm gonna have to have my wife do all that shit you're gonna have
to tell her everything i'll tell my son shit i'll tell him what's up I'm going to have to have my wife do all that shit. You're going to have to tell her everything. I'll tell my son shit. I'll tell him what's up.
I'm stepping to the plate for all that.
Really?
With a daughter?
I can be tough on a son.
Because I hate that when parents or anybody, adults, speak to kids with that kid voice.
The da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah, yeah.
I hate that shit.
I've been doing that the most.
I enjoy it.
That shit's fun for me.
When I'm around babies, kids, I speak to them straight up like an adult.
Right.
And I think they respect that more. You look right at the belly and you go you gonna die in there
all right this has been an episode of play
guys damn we ain't even get through four episodes uh what's it called yo man some shows coming up
man that's why you so heartlessless, man. Can you throw these
in the beginning?
Matter of fact,
I'll give some shows
and you guys can put them
in the beginning.
But listen,
this has been another episode
of Flagrant 2 No Easy Buckets
analysis by assholes.
Water cooler commentary
for your sports needs.
Thank y'all so much for listening.
Patreon,
we're going to see you Friday.
I might show you my hemorrhoid.
I might not.
We're going to see.
You know,
I'm going to see how generous I feel.
But,
I know it's bad.
It's bad.
It's super bad.
Maybe I'll do like a really zoomed in version so no one really knows what it is.
We'll figure it out.
Anyway, man, we fuck with y'all so much.
Thank you for spreading the word.
Thank you for growing this podcast.
It's amazing what we've been able to accomplish.
We will speak to you very soon.
Go out there.
Be great.
Get your steak done medium.
Maybe medium rare.
I don't go medium.
Wash your legs.
You know what I mean? Stay at Black Air B&Bsbs use up all their cocoa butter it is what it is it's been flagrant too peace