Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Stephen A. Smith says Jordan Is NOT The Greatest Athlete of All time & How To Curve Groupies

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

What's up people, Stephen A. Smith joins the boys to discuss the Greatest athlete of all time (It's NOT Michael Jordan), if Tom Brady is even considered an athlete, and how he curves so many ESPN Groupies. His Book Straight Shooter is OUT NOW. INDULGE!

But would you get married once? Yes. Really? Yeah. I've done it all. He needs to say, I've done them all. Hold on. Hold on.

Listen. This is the most I've ever heard you start off. I never heard you start off. I've lived a good life. I've been. I've spent the vast majority of my life. Even your pinky got a boner. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant.

And today we are joined by the Riz God, the Drip God. Probably the greatest sports journalist alive right now. We have Stephen A. Smith. Hey! How y'all up, fellas? How y'all doing, man? Probably, definitely. Definitely?

Yeah. Definitely number one? Not a doubt. Okay, who's number one if it's not you? I wouldn't know. You wouldn't know? I wouldn't know. You don't look backwards.

I don't look backwards. Not when it comes to that. Now, here's the thing. Yes, everybody knows you as this great sports journalist, of course, right? We know. But I think what a lot of people don't know is you're quite the thespian, Stephen A. I don't think so.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't be humble now. Don't be humble now. Come on, bro. I was watching you, and I think I left my wife recently, and I was like, this guy is good, man. Well, wait a minute, man. That was about 15 years ago. So you've only gotten better.

Now the general hospital's talking. Talk that shit. Let's go. That's current. that's current. I like it, I like it. I saw a little clip of you catching some bodies on General Hospital. That was hilarious. They did it slow-mo for a reason.

I didn't know what the was doing. It was the wildest thing, cuz I'm watching like, did someone put this on YouTube? Yeah. Because it is slow-mo. It is slow-mo. But you- That's how they did it. That's how they did it. We didn't do it in slow motion.

But they definitely slow-mo'd it, thank the good Lord, That's how they did it. We didn't do it in slow motion, but they definitely slow-moded, thank the good Lord, because who the hell knows how I would look in real time. I mean, you grew up, you know. You grew up. You know what I mean? Yeah, there might be some people

that know in real time. There might be some people that know Little Sun Sun. It was a little wild out there. Absolutely, that's true. That's true, but that's between us. That's between us. Yeah, you know,

everybody business. But there are some people that know why the book is called Straight Shooter. That is true. That's true, but that's between us. That's between us. It ain't nobody's business. But there are some people that know why the book is called Straight Shooter. Hey, that is true. That's what I'm trying to say. They're not with us anymore. They're here. Dude, the book is great. Thank you.

It's awesome. I mean, I know I've seen you make the rounds, and obviously you're talking to so many people, but I was really curious because you were speaking about okay so right now everybody can have an opinion yeah and there was this like almost ethos in the book which is like yo i had to earn a fucking opinion damn right and i think that like it's something that younger generations i'm 39 so even younger than me don't understand that there was a time where just having an opinion about sports only, not staying the fucking stats, but just this is my feeling, didn't exist unless you were at the

upper echelon. Absolutely. And now when you see everybody just going on Twitter, spouting off. Here's the deal. I don't mind it. Here's what I mind. I mind when your little young ass act like people didn't come before you to pave the way for you to be in the position that you in. You don't have to be some intellectually brilliant individual to know respect. Somebody came before you that had to put up with bullshit that you never had to deal with. You can get, now you can get, you can get on social media. You can express

your views. You can build a following or whatever. Back then it didn't exist. And when we're in the newspaper industry coming up, you're a high school reporter, you're a features writer, you're a college reporter, you're a pro writer, or whatever the case may be. But the word columnist meant everything because those were the only people allowed and licensed to give their opinion. That's the era I came up in. So I had to work through layers, get promoted damn near 10 times over the course of my career before I was granted a columnist position.

And in 2003, when the Philadelphia Inquirer named me a columnist, there were 20 people, there were 20 black people in American history given that title before me. I was the 21st. Wow. So now everybody got a damn opinion. And I'm cool. And I'm cool with it. But when you try to question my opinion, I'm like, hold the fuck up. Who are you?

Because you didn't work through all of this to get to this point. I did that shit. And now, it ain't like I did it and I'm not doing shit. And I'm asking you to hold on to the process I went through before I got to a point years ago. No, I'm number one now. Like, it's present.

You know what I'm saying? My show's number one now. So how am I number one now? I'm still doing this shit. I literally went through all of this to get to that point. But then you want to act like you get to forget all of that. No, I'm not letting you. I'm not letting you do that.

That's all I'm saying. How many years, number one? 11 straight years, Tom. Tell them again, tell them again. 11 straight. First take has been number one. 11 straight years. And I think the biggest thing about it now is that they just put something out today,

like last month in January, was almost watched, January. And we averaged nearly 600,000 viewers. And that matters. First of all, it's linear television. Secondly, it's at 10 in the morning when people are at work and school. Thirdly, it doesn't take into account the re-airs nor the billions that you get on social media. Oh, social is where it goes crazy. So that's where it goes crazy. So the fact that you got that number media. Oh, social is where it goes crazy. So that's where it goes crazy.

So the fact that you got that number is a really, really big deal. And it's like, you know, April 1st, I believe, marks the 11th straight year the show has been number one. Okay, okay. So you get the right to have an opinion. This is where I'm coming to. Okay. You earn the right to have an opinion. You haven't had one before on paper.

Do you? Haven't had what on paper? Meaning before you're a columnist. Right. You're reporting the facts, right? You're a reporter, it's just facts. Now they're like, yo, just go. The first one, do you ease into it?

Oh, hell no, you bring the rain. Okay, okay. You bring the rain. You bring the rain. It's like I'm free. It's like I'm free. I'm free. I can say what the hell I really feel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It ain't just about, well, this is what happened. This is what happened. This is what happened. And I'd find a way to sting you a little bit by inserting my opinions, even when I was supposed to just be spitting the news. But I'm like this.

Look, he went down the lane. He had a wide open layup. He missed it. That's fact. But you know, you can kind of read between the lines. I'm putting a little sauce on it. Now I'm like, damn it, he blew the damn light. You know what I'm saying?

It's a little bit, it's real different in that regard. So I certainly make sure, I mean, the second they unleashed me. Do you remember the first column? Man, I don't remember the first column. I remember the fact that I was spitting out opinions left and right. I never had a shortage of them. It was AI woman. It was Larry Brown the next. It was Tracy McGrady the next. It was all of this stuff. It didn't matter what it was. The second they unleashed me to give opinions, I was like,

they don't know what the hell they just did. You know what I'm saying? This is what I've been waiting for. And also, this is a time where you're interacting with these guys regularly. Now, a lot of people got opinions on Twitter, but they'll never meet Kyrie. They'll never meet Tracy McGrady. You're seeing Tracy. He's at the games. They're coming to your office. It's all of them.

But I'm at the games. I was at the games. I was sitting courtside. I would go in the locker room pre-game, post-game. I traveled on the road. And I would literally walk up to Cash. Yo, man, you ain't going to want to see the paper tomorrow. You don't want to see that. You was garbage you ain't going to want to see the paper tomorrow. You don't want to see that.

You was garbage tonight. You don't want to see the paper tomorrow. Wow. That shit is not going to be pleasant. Did you ever have, like, because AI is a real dude. AI and I, well, we like brothers. That's my little brother. But we've gone through, you know, and in fairness, in the interest of full disclosure,

you had players on the 76ers, especially guys like Aaron McKee, Eric Snow, and them. They used to call me and AI, y'all like some damn married couple. Because we would literally go. One time, we went eight months without speaking to each other. Eight months. Over what? Because he didn't like some shit I wrote. What'd you say?

About practice? No, no. What about practice? He didn't care about that. Believe it or not, he didn't care about that. It was about the fit. It was about the fit. He got mad because I said that, you know, he taking liberties. You know, he's AI, but he's milking every single damn liberty he can.

He need to get his act together, and he didn't appreciate that. And he was so pissed off we went without talking, and it got to a point where a couple of my colleagues pulled me to the side and said, yo, man, you the beat writer for the 76ers. You cannot go eight months without talking to the superstar of the team. And I said, watch me. I said, so what? I said, he don't speak. He's still giving quotes in press conferences and all that stuff. It ain't stopping me from doing my job. I'm not going to be a prisoner to a guy that chooses not to talk to me. So be it. And then his late friend, that whole practice, practice, we talk about practice.

What that fed off of was his frustration because one of his boys got murdered. Right? Just a week earlier. And so he's saying, like, who cares about practice? Exactly. One of his boys. Well, that boy that got murdered, God rest his soul, his name was Rah, and he's the one that brought me and A.I. back together.

Oh, wow. He was a real good dude. Real good, real good. You know, obviously he was a street kid. A.I. knew him. A.I. took care of him the whole bit, but he had a beautiful heart. He was beautiful people. Was always protective of A.I.

Didn't engage in no stupidness, no shenanigans. He was a really good brother, had his heart in the right place. And when AI wasn't talking, he had me and AI meet at a nightclub at 2.30 in the morning in Philadelphia off Spring Garden Street

and got us together to stop the nonsense and to start talking. Okay, hold on. So a street dude that's cool with AI hits you up and goes, I need you to be at a nightclub at 2.30. He called me. He saw me at the game.

Said, meet me here tonight. And was there any part of you that's like. I'm from the streets, bro. Ain't nothing to me. Ain't nothing to me. You want me to be there at 3.30, 2.30? That's where I'm going to be. And I showed up by myself.

I was like, yo, what's up? So he got us together. Y'all need to squash all of this and all of this other stuff. And you know, I just let A.I. know. I said, you know what? The only thing I said to A.I. that night, I said, you always get mad and you think about what I say. You don't give me enough credit for what I don't

say. And he was like, my man. I said, let that go. Because you knew about the hoe. I have no comment. I have no comment. I have no recollection of that. Oh, this guy's good.

But I will tell you, I will tell you, first of all, certain codes. First of all, certain codes. Number one, it ain't got to be about that. But if it was something about that, I'd be damned if anybody would ever hear something like that from me. I mean, it ain't got to be about that, but if it was something about that, I'd be damned if anybody would ever hear something like that from me. I mean, I don't know you, and I wouldn't tell on you.

Ain't none of my damn business. You know what I'm saying? Listen, I'm a reporter. I work for the media. I'm a reporter. I work for the media. There you go. Save yourself. That's the way you're supposed to do it, but I'm just saying it. You know, you go out, and it's like, listen, I'm a reporter, stuff like that.

Don't break no laws. Don't get into the police blotters. Outside of that, all I care about is what you're doing on the court of field. Ain't none of my business what's going on in your personal life. That's my cardinal rule. I've always been that way, and I will never change. I'm from Hollis, Queens. I'm from the streets of New York City, bro.

There's a certain code that's applicable everywhere you go, and I will never change. I'm from Hollis, Queens. I'm from the streets of New York City, bro. There's a certain code that's applicable everywhere you go and it transcends race. You understand what I'm saying? It's a bro code. You understand? You don't do it.

Period. There's nothing to talk about. You think that is why you can talk to players? You'll say some crazy shit to a player, but he knows you. He knows where you're from.

He knows you respect the code So he'll let you say more than a guy like me can say That's part of it But that's not like I don't have players that can't stand me Or players that hated me for something that I said Or whatever the case may be But when you say what you just said Understand

I don't believe I'm saying nothing crazy My shit's fact based So the point is Is that I'm not some cat with a social media account that's just got an opinion. I've been covering the NBA for nearly 30 years. Coaches, players, owners, executives, personnel directors, scouts, advertisers, sponsors, hangarons, honeys, wives, brothers, sisters, parents, everything. I'm connected all over the place. And so my point is that when I come with an opinion,

it's really not just an opinion. So if you see me sometimes on TV and I'm getting into an argument with somebody, half the time I'm looking at them like, you fucking know I know. It's like, you know I'm not, I'm not making it up.

You know. It's just that you know I can't say it up. You know. It's just that you know I can't say anything. And then when you see me get really, really heated is when I feel like I'm sitting across from somebody that knows I know and knows I can't and won't say what I really know. And they're taking advantage of it when they know the truth. They have the information too. Yeah. So you know that I'm not telling you all I could

say. You know why. And by the way, for any guy that's in the business that I'm in, please understand something about most journalists. We all know 75% more than what we reveal. Never forget that. We all know more

than we reveal. So your opinion means more for that too. It's just that, all know more than we reveal. So your opinion means more for that, too. It's just that, you know, you can't... Listen, you can bring people in the White House that cover the White House. They don't tell you everything. They tell you there's certain stuff that they tell you, and there's certain stuff that they hold. People that cover

Hollywood, there's certain stuff that they say, and there's certain stuff that they hold. You can't say everything because if you say everything, no one will trust you. That's right. No one will trust you. No, that's right. You got to prove that you're someone who can keep secrets. Exactly what said AI.

So that's the other thing is like, and I think that's where a lot of these newer media struggles is they're running for clout so fast. They get one little tidbit of juicy information. And instead of storing that and building trust with somebody, they throw it out there and get one little tidbit of juicy information. And instead of storing that and building trust with somebody, they throw it out there and get fucking retweeted a hundred times. But you consider that media.

See, I consider that bloggers. I consider that people that's just trying to create clickbait and stuff like that. If you are a member of the media, you absolutely know that comes along with the job. I'm telling you right now,

I don't say 80% of the stuff that I know. Wow. I cannot. 80%. 80% because the objective is to build trust. For you to know you can trust me, that you can talk to me. There's plenty of stars who will remain nameless. That'd be Stephen A., man.

Let me talk to you, man. This is shit that's happening. Wow. But you can't say this. Has anyone ever been grateful? Has anyone ever hit you and been like... Most are grateful.

Even when you're critical? Most are grateful. Even when you're critical? Because they get what I left out. Yeah, right. You see what I'm saying? And they'll hit you up and be like, no.

No, they'll just nod at me. Yeah, I got you. But he's like the Marvel villain that has principles. And so what I'm saying is... You root for him? You're there, don't stop. And here's why I don't get mad

at a lot of... I don't get mad at a lot of people. I don't get mad at a lot of people over this. Because I know people in my family and people in my inner circle that are friends and stuff like that. Pick up the phone. And I'll be like this. Who the hell you think you talking to? You think I don't know? I said, I can't say X, Y, Z.

How do you not know this and you know me? My bad, my bad. Well, then what the fuck you asking me for? You know, you call me, why didn't you say this? Because I can't. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to violate that code. That has nothing to do with something. Like, for example, you can sit up there,

I'm famous, stay off the weed and all of this other shit, right? I'm not talking about just anybody. I got family members, friends, people smoke some weed. Okay, please. You show up in the streets, that's what you do. Hadn't, at least most of us. The point is, is that I'm talking start the street, that's what you do. At least most of us. The point is, is that I'm talking about the cats

that it's cost them money. So if I'm sitting there and I bring up something like that, right? And you high as shit. You walk by the scorer's table, I can smell you. You wobbling around.

You know, coach is making a call. Coach is making a call. Everybody knows Sam. Please, please. There are worse examples. He is making a call. Coach is making a call. Everybody knows Sam. Please, please. They're all worse examples. He's a blogger. They're all far worse examples.

But the point that I'm trying to make, I love my man Sam. I'm glad you brought it up. I miss him. I can't wait to see him one of these days. But let me tell you something. You can see these guys, and they wobbling.

They can't understand plays. It's not many, not most. I'm just talking about a handful of people. You'll see something like that, right? I'll write a story. Now, this is how I'll handle it. Maybe they dribble out the clock and game on in the finals. I don't know what the hell.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm saying this is how I'll handle it. I'm not going to dime them out. I'll be like this. This brother shot three for 23 last night. He made this mistake, this mistake, that mistake. Now, I don't know what the hell he was doing last night. But, right? Because that mistake. Now, I don't know what the hell he was doing last night, but, right?

Because that's me letting you know. I know what the fuck he was doing last night. Okay, wait. How much warfare exists where, like, do you ever have a GM or assistant GM or somebody or even a coach give you information on an opposing team that they're playing, hoping that you run with it?

Yes. And how are you filtering out all the information so you're not affecting the game or someone else? First of all, that's not my concern at all. I could care less whether I'm affecting or not affecting a game. What I care about is the veracity of the information. How truthful is it? If the information is true, you do your digging, you find out whether it's true or not, et cetera, et cetera.

You go from there. Now, if this person leaked this information to me, you might not know who it is if you're the opposing team. But if you read the information or listen to me, you can use your imagination. Yeah, that damn person gave Stephen A this information. That's why he said this shit You know what I'm saying

And then all of a sudden They get furious And then all of a sudden They come back with something Oh it's happened many times I've had I have been used As the instigator

Of wars between teams Players I'm not telling you that I'm not telling you that What I'm saying What I'm saying to you though. I'm not telling you that. Give us the list. What I'm saying to you, though, is that it doesn't matter. What mattered was it's not that they were using me and that's it. It doesn't matter. Is the information correct?

Now, if you're lying, no, you can't do that to people. You got to make sure you hold that information. Matter of fact, you got to go back to that. Can't be like, you lied to me. You lied to me one time. I'm going to roast your ass. You ain't going to get, you ain't going to, don you hold that information. Matter of fact, you got to go back to that. Can't be like, you lied to me. You lied to me one time. I'm going to roast your ass. You ain't going to get, you ain't going to regret.

Don't lie to me. Don't use me like that. But you can use me for the truth anytime you want to. But you'll use me for a lie. And I will decipher whether or not it's the material I want to use or I don't want to use. And I'll go back and forth. And the objective is to be humane and to be fair. I've got people, I've had people over the years, not recently, but I've had people over the years giving me personal information about cats.

They ain't had nothing to do with their play on the field or court. I look at them like, what you telling me that for? That's violating, what you doing that for, man? Why would you do that? What if he did that to you, man? Because you ain't innocent. Why would you do that? Scratch that shit.

Go to somebody else for that. I ain't doing that. I don't play that game. Come to me with basketball or football or baseball. I ain't doing no damn hockey or NASCAR. That's true. But come to me with some stuff that's relevant to the sport. You don't want gossip. Don't come to me with people's personal life.

Listen, again, I don't know y'all. They come to me with something about your personal life, go someplace else with that. I don't play that'all. They come to me with something about your personal life, go someplace else with that. I don't play that game. Do you have any obligation to the players if the organization is trying to tarnish their value? Yeah. No.

Really? No. The obligation is whether or not it's true. You might say something about the player and it might be damaging to the player. And I will make the determination whether I want to use that intel or not. But I don't owe it to either side to use it or not to use it if it's true.

If it's true, then I'll use it, depending on what it is. Now, if you're telling me this dude ain't playing well, ain't playing like shit because he in the locker room, he's a locker room cancer, he's arguing and fighting with players, he's doing this, he's doing that, that's different. All game. You start telling me, ah, it's because he having an players. He's doing this. He's doing that. That's different. All game. You start telling me, ah, it's because he having an affair or because he doing that.

No, now that's your family. That's your wife. That's your relationship. So now you're violating. You're violating. That's crossing the line. Oh, you know, he's doing drugs. Wait a minute.

That's far deeper than something like that. I'm not doing that. You see what I'm saying? There's lines that you don't cross. But what I deem in the boundaries are things that directly relate to the field and the court of play as it pertains to the actual game itself. You're in the locker room fighting with a teammate and then I see that you refuse to pass

on the ball. That's relevant. You see what I'm saying? You're in the locker room fighting with the, you know, you're in the locker room and you wasn't fighting with a teammate, but outside, you know, something else happened with the wives or something like that. No, that's crossing the line. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. What about, okay, what about, sorry, I want to ask this real quick. There's a cool clip of you talking about Kobe cussing you out over voicemail.

Yes. You said you and I didn't talk for eight months. Yes. What's the craziest story you have of a player being upset with you for something you said and like some crazy shit happened that you're comfortable saying? No, I would tell you I've told this story many times

and I actually hate telling it now because I feel bad because I just reflect on it and know how wrong I was. But, you know, we were in Denver when Randy, Larry Brown,

I think it was 2003, something like that. Larry Brown leaves for Detroit, 2003, 2004 season, Randy Ayers takes over, Randy Ayers takes over coaching the 76ers, he ultimately gets fired, Glenn Big Dog Robinson, I thought he could have handled things better, whatever, whatever, I go on TV, I say what I have to say, blah, blah, zay, and the next thing you know, they got a game in Denver after All-Star weekend.

And I walk in the locker room, and big dog gets in my face, you know, motherfucker, I saw what the hell you said. You know, you ain't shit, you ain't this, you ain't that, blah, blah, blah. He's talking, you know, smack to me and the whole bit. I'm like, can I speak? He's like, what? You know, he said, you're no good, sorry the whole bit i'm like can i speak he's like what

you know he said you're no good sorry ass mf or blah blah blah and i said my turn i said i'm appreciate your honesty because i feel the exact same way about your sorry ass you motherfucker fuck you think blah blah blah and we we get into it you know i'm saying and he was like he said he said man you don't know who i man, you don't know who I am. He said, you don't know who I am. I'm from Gary, Indiana. I said, motherfucker, so is Michael Jackson. So after all of that happened.

Yeah, nobody can claim Gary, bro. MJ Ruig. So after all of that happened, after all of that happened after all of that happened you know we never spoke to each other again the whole bit and then years later

I just felt really bad because I saw him talking about it and I was like and then Randy Ayers and others got on me because they were like let it go

let it go let it go and I was like they right and then I saw his son and his son was in the league and he was such a nice kid and everything. I didn't want his son looking at me talking on TV every day,

thinking that one day if I spoke about him, it was going to be because of his father. And then I realized, you know how you just look at somebody and it's like an epiphany hits you? This is all my fault. That brother was a basketball player. Whatever he felt about Randy Ayers, he felt about Randy Ayers. Whatever he felt about his teammates, he felt about his teammates. He has that right. He was in that locker room.

He was a star player formerly at Purdue and then in the NBA. I wasn't. You know, he was that dude. And the fact of the matter is Glenn Bigdore, Robinson, Cabal, and the people that you spoke to, most of them felt he was a really cool brother, and they didn't feel the way that I felt about him at the time. So I was like, there must've been something good about him. The fact of the matter is, and I don't want his son feeling this way. So I walked up to his son when I saw his son

and I was like, I was totally wrong. Your father was right. I said, I could have handled things better. I'm the one sitting in this chair. It's my obligation to be the professional and the grown up. And I didn't live up to my obligation. I want you to know that if I see your father, I'm going to apologize to him. And I want you to know you never have to worry about anything that happened with me and your dad being a reason why I would judge how you play or anything like that. I'm going to call it like I see it, but that's all you have to worry about with me. And I just felt that that was the right thing to do. And I still feel that way to this very day because it's on me. I'm the one that's sitting in that chair and I should have handled

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Yes. And people know that you have influence and they might want to take away your influence. That's what we do to influential people. We try to remove that influence. Many have tried. Have they tried, like, have they tried throwing ladies your way? Like, is it genuinely? Me, personally, I think so.

I think that there have been several cities, look, I'm dead serious, I'm not joking, I think there's several cities.

One time it was Miami, Miami, Miami. One time it was no. Yes, Miami. He's got the Dolphins colors right now. He's repping.

He's repping right now. Yes, Dallas. Yes, Dallas. Yes, LA. There have been times where- Dallas must be throwing you some ugly women the way you talk about the Cowboys. Oh, they're Cowboys. They're throwing Cowboys. Reverse Cowboys.

There's a lot of nice looking women in Dallas. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Dallas is kind of nice. But I will tell you this. Seriously, man. Dallas is kind of nice. But I will tell you this, seriously, man. There have been times where I'm like, I don't think I'm Godzilla.

I think I'm a decent looking dude. But I ain't that damn good looking. These women being a little too aggressive. There are times that I felt like that. And it was like it was during the finals one year. It was during the playoffs another year. And all of those cities that I mentioned. And I was like, it was during the finals one year, it was during the playoffs another year, and all of those cities that I mentioned. And I'm like, nah, nah.

You know, I'm saying, no, I'm walking away. You're throwing it at your home. No, not just that. You get to, you're going to the front desk finding what room I'm in. Wow. I got to change the name

on my hotel room. Like, yeah, I got to go by, you know, I got to go by, you know, like, what is that? I got to bring like, no, no, no, no, hell no. I got to go by, you know, like, what is that? I got to bring, like. Steve A. Stevens. No, no, no, no. Hell no.

I got to change the Rumpelstiltskin. I mean, they had to do something like that. But I had to, like, yo, what the hell is going on here? There were girls knocking on your hotel. Knocking on the hotel door, trying to hook up the whole bit. No, but it was like. But again, I'm looking at them, and they look pretty damn good. And I'm like, this is me.

Through the people, you're looking. No, I opened the door. I said, this is me. I just didn't let them in. I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. I'm a gentleman. I didn't let them in.

I didn't let them in. You got to reward them for their journey. I had to open the door. I mean, just respectful. I was being respectful. That's all. But the point is, just respectful. I was being respectful. That's all. But the point is,

that's what I did. You know? And I was like, I'm just looking at it and I'm like, this is ridiculous. It's fine as hell and why are you chasing, chasing?

Nah. You're Steve and A. You're Steve and A's fan? No, no, no. And you dress nice now before it was the baggy, but now. Before, now, before.

It was with the baggy. No, no, they didn't like the baggy. They, before, now, before. It was with the baggy. No, they didn't like the baggy. They thought she was hot or something. They thought she was hot or something. But the point is, but the point is that that's what they were doing. And I was like, this is too much. No, I don't look that damn good. I ain't one of these superstar players.

Oh, hell no. I smelt the setup. And when you, let me tell you, what will stop me in my tracks real quick is when I think somebody trying to mess with my money.

That's what, I know how to police myself. It ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. It ain't worth it. Get your ass in your hotel room, close that door. Refrain.

Chill out. Stay off the pussy. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's the one thing in my life I can't go sell a bit for, my money. Yes, I can. Yes, I can.

Yes, I can. But that is wild that they're sending girls. Like I said, I don't know. I'm not saying that I'm coming from a position. That's humble of you. I'm not saying I'm coming from a position of knowledge. I'm saying that I suspected it because I'm like, no. I'm not one of those dudes that, you know what?

Oh, I couldn't get a girl until I got on television. I've always been blessed. We know. I've always been blessed. I'm good. I'm good. But the point is, is that despite being blessed in that regard,

you know, in terms of women wanting, instead of women wanting to meet me and the whole bit, I ain't never had, I ain't never had these, I ain't never had no women come after me the way some of those women came after me. And I can tell you, you can call it whatever you want,

but I'm one of those dudes you don't have to worry about on the road. Like, yo, you know, what's he doing? How he acting? Oh, hell no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I guard myself like, like, you know, like, like, like I'm money in the safe. I don't play, you know, I, I go out. It's with my inner circle. I don't just hang out. I'm going out, you know, if I'm with my girl, that's different. If I'm with my family or the people that I work with, that's different. I don't go to strip clubs.

I don't go to just parties by myself. I don't put myself in a position where I can potentially get exposed. Somebody slides some shit in your drink or whatever. Oh, no, no, no, none of that. I got people around me at all times. But you know what's fucked up

is like those girls found out about you and fell in love with you probably from their boyfriends watching you. Like their boyfriends are watching their show, and then they're in the background doing some TikToks and shit. They're like, oh, he has a kind of nice voice. And the dude didn't even fucking see it coming. That's true. That guy's a playmaker, bro.

That's just a assist. There's a slight issue with what y'all are not saying. Okay. But that's just as important as what y'all are saying. Y'all acting like that's the case with a dude that's on television. That's usually the case, period, with any of y'all. Think about it. Think about how you've met somebody.

Think about how somebody else has met your friend or whatever the case may be. You do have people that plot. You do have people that, it's like, you know, you could have a lady and she meet one of y'all and she's looking at you like, yeah, but she with you.

It does happen. It does happen. And by the way, men are obviously worse. Men are obviously worse because we see some shit we like. You know what I'm saying? A lot of times, at some point in time or another in our life, we didn't care about who we were with. So we can't do, don't act like it's TV.

It's anybody. I literally, I'll never forget years ago, man. It was, this was about 20 years ago. I went to a journalism conference. And I watched. Listen to me. This is a journalism conference. And I watched two people who I knew were married go into their room together.

I knew were married, go into their room together, came out of the room, went downstairs to meet their respective spouses. Maybe they were journalism. Yeah, maybe journalism. That's one way, that's a word to use for it.

I'm just saying, it's like, it doesn't matter, y'all. It doesn't matter. You're a man or a woman, anything's possible. It doesn't matter what industry you in. It doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman. Anything's possible. It doesn't matter what industry you're in. It doesn't matter what's going on.

And when you are a journalist slash commentator, pundit, whatever, you connected to the fourth estate, which is the media and stuff like that, you see it all. You see it all. And I can't even begin to tell you the things that I've seen. It makes you scared to get married. It makes you scared to get married. It makes you scared to get married. I mean, we're already married. We're late, bro. Wait, what kind of crazies?

What do you mean? Wait a minute. Are you telling me there have been, like, players' wives that have tried to throw you to prep basketball? No, not me. What I'm saying to you is that there are players who have been traded because they were with a teammate's wife oh wait there are coaches there are coaches oh no who have traded players because trade players was getting with somebody they would get with they are there are they are listen it happens everywhere y'all talking to me because i do sports, but the fact of the matter is sports, Wall Street,

you could be in medicine, you know, somebody, doctors and nurses working at a hospital. Look, man, since Adam and Eve, this has been going on. Stop acting like we don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all married, bro.

I never met anybody in my life. You know what? You marry? That's exactly the answer you should give. Would you get married again? I've never been married. Oh, that's right. You have kids, though.

Two daughters. But would you get married once? Yes. Really? Yeah. I've done it all. He's going to say, I've done them all. Oh, no.

I'm just saying I've done them all. Oh, no. Yeah. There you go. Hold on. There you go. Hold on. Listen. I've, I've, I've.

Wait, who takes down the most idiots? I've never heard you said that. That's all, folks. I've lived a good life. I've lived a good life. Ebony, Ebony, that's all. I've lived a good life. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't, I, you know, life. You know what I'm saying? You know, listen, I'm not proud of the fact that I've never been married, but I am proud of the fact that I didn't get married and not honor marital vows, not even come close to it. At least I didn't do that. So, you know, I mean, there comes a point in time where, you know, you get sick. You know, you want somebody there to nurse you back to health. You come home.

You know, you want somebody. That's the reason you got married. You gotta have a significant other. You gotta have a significant other. It damn sure ain't because you have this overwhelming desire to be the most monogamous person on the planet. No. You just get to a point where it's like, you know, I've been there, done that.

You know, and it's cool. You know? I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it. This overwhelming disaster. You just wake up one more hour. I need to be faithful to death. God damn.

You wake up. I mean, listen, listen. I'm proud of any man. Yeah. Any man. Yeah. That says, I have found the person that I want to spend the rest of my life with, and I have zero interest in any other human being on the planet. That is a very, very special man.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not me. Up until this point in my life? Oh, but you're getting there. No, no, no. I think, no, no. I'm over all of that, man.

But I'm over all of that. Over all of what? All the monogamous stuff or over all the girls? No, no, no. I'm over, listen. I've been, I've spent the vast majority

of my life. Even his pinky got a boner. He talking about it. Listen, man. Listen. No, no, no. Ever since, I will tell you, I'm 55.

Yeah. Ever since I became a dad, my life changed. Oh, really? Listen. No, no, no. Ever since, I will tell you, I'm 55. Yeah. Ever since I became a dad, my life changed. Oh, really? Prior to that, just reckless. It was crazy. It was bad. It was bad. Just call me Will Chamberlain.

You were putting up with him? No. You were putting up with him? No, nothing like that. He was in Philly. It was never like that. He's in Philly It was never like that It was never It was never like

It was never like that But you know what it was It wasn't so much What I was doing Because I was never that bad It was what I wanted to do Meaning that You know what

I would be with someone And know There's no way That I'm This is going to last Yeah Right Because I'm going to want

to be with someone different. Wasn't running around, all of that other stuff. Nah, you ain't doing that. But what you're doing is you're like, I have no intentions of being in this long term. We call that post-nut clarity. You said, you said.

But once I became a father, the scary part is like, you know, especially when you got daughters, you're like this damn I don't want her to run into somebody that I was like you start thinking

all of a sudden you know what the word all of a sudden you know what the word karma means you didn't know what it meant before then but now you're like shit I know what it means now means. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't know what it meant before then. But now you're like, shit, I know what it means now. Karma was a stripper in D.C. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

In your eyes. I was at the nightclub with him. I was in Toronto. I was in Toronto. I mean, you're looking at all of that. You're looking at all of that. It's like, nah, you know. But it changes.

And, you know, it's like, you know, you don't feel like you're doing anything wrong. You know, you're single. You're not married. You don't have any kids. And you're very, very honest. Look, I'm traveling 200 plus days out of the year. I'm not trying to settle down. But then you find somebody special

and you want to be around them, but you still sense it's not going to last. So then it doesn't last, and then you get with somebody else, and then that doesn't last, and you don't care. Then you become a dad, and all of a sudden, everything you didn't care about Then you become a dad and all of a sudden

everything you didn't care about now is an overload. You're caring about that all the time. You're like, Lord, please don't do this to me. Don't make them run into somebody like I was.

You can sit up there and you can look at a whole bunch of people that's much, much worse than you ever were. But the fact of the matter is you're thinking about you and you're thinking about

how you were and you're like, shit, why did I do this? Why did I do this? Why did I do that? But you ever were. But the fact of the matter is you're thinking about you and you're thinking about how you were and you're like, shit, why did I do this? Why did I do this? Why did I do that? But you have daughters, right? Yes, that's what I'm saying.

But they won't know what it's like to see a business man. I know. I know. That's what I'm trying to say. I know. I knew how I was.

I knew how I thought. I'm like, oh, shit. Threesomes a lot? Offense? No, no, no. No comment. No comment?

Triangle offense? Hold up. I'm not getting all of that. Were you there to fill Jackson? I'm not getting all of that, brother. That's too personal? Of course it's too damn personal. But I heard you and Levy as fans just go, shh.

Uh-huh. He was good. He was running box and one. He was good. Not at all. Not at all. I sat up there and I was like, yo, nope. He was running box in one. Not at all. Not at all. I sat up there and I was like, yo, nope.

I'm chilling out. I mean, listen, most people I've been around with all my life, I'm talking about my boys, my cousins, people like that, they were far more buck wild than I ever was. But that didn't make me innocent. Right. And I know that. So when you become a dad,

it's like, shit. Yeah. So this is the thing. I feel like when people talk to you, this is why it's exciting to talk about this kind of stuff because when people talk to you for the first time, I'm sure they're always going like,

here's my sports take. What is your opinion on it? You know what? Believe it or not, I try to make it very, very clear to people. That's what I do. That's not who I am. That's what I'm saying. You know, it's a lot more to clear to people. That's what I do. That's not who I am.

That's what I'm saying. You know, it's a lot more to me than that. That's why I like talking to you. I like to joke around. I like to clown around. And I love, I've always been one because I've grown. I was the youngest of six. I fought with the sisters.

90% of my relatives are females or whatever. So I always. That's where the riz comes from. I always love, I always love being around the fellas and just shooting the breeze. Like being in a room filled with testosterone and stuff. You know what I'm saying? I like that. You know what I'm saying?

It makes you feel free because it's happened to me often. So when people get me around, it don't have to be about women all the time, but they ask me questions, I'm not running from anything. But that's the cool thing is like, because I feel like somebody as opinionated as you is going to have these same, it's not like you're just going to be opinionated about sports. It's going to be about politics. It's going to be about relationships and all these kind of things.

Yeah, because that's how it is at home. Exactly. I mean, if you're being real about it, who goes home and just talk about what they do for a living? No. You really talk about a lot of things that expand beyond that. And so for me, it's not something that I ever run from. And if you want to hear that, No Mercy, his podcast now, you go into every single topic. That's right.

I don't run from anything. Yeah, I love it. You know what I'm saying? So, I mean, it just is what it is, and I'm just having a ball. It was one of those things I remember during the pandemic, right? Everything shut down, no sports going on. I'm like, we about to find out if these motherfuckers can really talk for a living. And when you guys found a way to talk about not sports every day.

Every day. Like, y'all were stupid. Listen, man, that shit wasn't intentional. We should have had time off. That's what I meant. But we didn't. But we didn't. I mean, first take was on.

Everybody had time off. It was you and nurses. First take was on every day. Every five days a week throughout the pandemic. Those two months where there was nothing but sports. That's why, let me tell you something. That's why Dana White, that's why he was such a salvation for us. Because remember, he was pushing for the sport to keep going.

And that gave us something to talk about. That gave us something to talk about. The two people I'm most grateful to because they provided us sports during the pandemic was Dana White and Michael Jordan's Last Dance. Bro, when the Last Dance came out, it

couldn't have been a more perfect time. I remember, there's a video of me somewhere. My wife is videotaping me without realizing it, and I'm explaining her the rules of how I'm going to watch this show. She's going, but what if I have any questions? I go, there are no questions.

We're watching this uninterrupted. No, she asked fucking questions the whole time. Scotty Pippen, why is his wife dating somebody? Everybody. Everybody. But that was

like this perfect, okay, you're older than me, but I'm still old enough to be at a time where it's like there were a few things on TV that everybody cared about. Right. And when the finals came around or the playoffs came around, that was it. Now there's,

everybody's on TikTok, Instagram. There's a million different things that they can be distracted by. Okay. But when that fucking, when that special came out, when that documentary came out, it felt like the world stopped, man. And if it was like, I don't know if the world is organized in this way.

I don't know if there's a higher priority. I don't know what it is. But it was something like, hey, y'all are gonna fucking recognize Jordan's greatness. There's a reason these kids are wearing these sneakers. They never watched him play once. Yeah. And I would even talk

to young people about it and they'd be like, oh, I see why you... Yes. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, because so many of them

are lost. It's just so sad. Wait, wait. You know, because they want... Listen, they talk about LeBron, they talk about

these other players, talk about even Kobe and then, you know, MJ. He's better than MJ. No, they were not. Yeah. MJ was on another level, bro.

You know what I'm saying? Like, listen. LeBron is universally respected. Mm-hmm. Mount Rushmore basketball. Greatest small forward that ever lived. Going to go down as all-time greatest scorer in NBA history. All this other shit.

All true. But you know something? He ate 6-0 in the NBA Finals. Mm-hmm. Was 6th NBA Finals MVP. Mm-hmm. He true. But you know something? He ain't 6-0 in the NBA Finals with six NBA Finals MVP. He doesn't, you know, Michael Jordan doesn't have a choke performance on his resume. He just called it what it is.

Against Dallas 2011, that was not LeBron's shining moment. That's just the truth. And then not only that, and I often use this, LeBron is universally and unquestionably highly respected. Jordan was feared.

He scared the living hell out of you. You didn't want to go up against Jordan. You wanted no parts of him. And Jordan would do things to demoralize you in such a way that you didn't even want to think about going up against him again.

I remember. I mean, the things that this man, the things that this man used to do to people, to opponents, it's unreal, man. And I'm like, I saw it. I saw it. They can talk whatever they want until the cows come home. Michael Jordan's number one, LeBron's number two. Yeah.

Oh, you know LeBron number two. Between two and three, between him and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Okay. I have a theory that Floyd Mayweather is the greatest great of all time, meaning he is greater at his skill of boxing than Stephen Hawking was at science. Okay. I can live with that, but I don't know if I would call him the greatest fighter of all time. First of all, Floyd Mayweather is one of the greatest ever.

call him the greatest fighter of all time. First of all, Floyd Mayweather is one of the greatest ever. He's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant defensive fighter. His speed, his best, his boxing savvy. He's just a savant. He's just something special. No question about it.

But I gotta look at the Sugar Ray Linens of the world. So you came up at a time where you're watching Sugar Ray. I watch Sugar Ray. I watched Pepino Cuevas. I watched Thomas the Hitman Hearns, Hagler, Mugabe, all of these cats. I mean, you know, what's his name? Aaron Pryor, Alexis Aguero,

Salvador Sanchez before he died. I mean, I come up with that era. And I'm telling you right now, you can look at, of course, Ali Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Shavers, all of these guys, right? It's not just about your skill set. It's who you do it against.

Your level of competition. Is it possible that he's so far beyond his level of competition that he made it look easy? Well, I think he did as a lightweight. When he went up to the welterweight division, not so much. You know what I'm saying? I mean, taking out Canelo the way he took out. Well, he just gave him a boxing lesson. But Can division, not so much. You know what I'm saying? I mean, taking out Canelo the way he took out. Well, he just gave him

a boxing lesson, but Canelo was 22 years old. See, I remember that. That's an excuse, though. I don't like this, like he's 22, he's too young. Well, I will tell you this.

Well, you know, you do have to take that into consideration. The guy had 100 fights. Well, let me explain. You have to take that into consideration when boxing is the issue.

Now, if he got knocked on his ass, that's different. But when he simply got schooled, when you swing and a punch and Floyd is tapping you on your shoulder and saying, I'm behind you, that's a problem. You understand what I'm saying? That's just a skill. We could credit Floyd with that. Of course, I am crediting. I'm saying he's a brilliant, brilliant boxer. Floyd knew how to move before you even threw the damn punch. You see what I'm saying?

You got to be a veteran to know how to overcome that. You can't put a novice into the ring with Floyd Money Mayweather. You understand? He's going to school you. What I'm saying to you is that if you want to make an argument on Floyd Money Mayweather's half, which I'm not summarily dismissing, I would tell you it's this. has, which I'm not summarily dismissing.

I would tell you it's this. Floyd Money Mayweather was undefeated for the last half of his career with one hand. He constantly broke his hand. He constantly broke his hand. And so because he broke his hand, you got to give credit where credit is due.

He would go into a ring knowing he had no shot at knocking somebody out because his hands were hurt too much. And literally walked in the ring and said, I'm going to embarrass you and humiliate you by showing the world you can't hit me. We were in Jacksonville. He hit Arturo Gatti. He beat the shit out of him.

But we were in Jacksonville, Florida. The Philadelphia Eagles were playing among the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. And it was a week before, a few days before the game. And I go up to Floyd and I'm like, look, man, you know this is modern day Rocky. You can't play around with Gaddy. You got to take him out. You can't play.

I'm just telling you, we in the VIP section. Floyd grabs me, pulls me close to him. Ain't no motherfucker with six losses beating me. Don't ever forget that. I said, what? Music blaring, VIP section, we in the club, the whole shit. He said, I said, ain't no motherfucker with six losses ever beating me go watch yeah so i said fine i'ma beat it fight was in atlantic city yeah i flew back

from jacksonville and i went to atlantic city yeah for the next week for the fight and floyd beat that brother like he started It was a point In there, Roger Mayweather Looked at the cameras like Keep watching this ass whipping And Floyd hit that brother With like six straight Rights, I said oh my god

Just picked him apart Just like he told me He was going to do My dad used to be a journalist. He would go to Ali's camp a lot, and he asked Ali before he fought Foreman, he's like, how the hell are you going to beat this guy? Remember,

Foreman, that was when Foreman hit Frazier and lifted him off the fucking canvas with an uppercut, remember? Yes, yes. And Ali told him, he goes, you have to understand, I'm a scientific boxer. He goes, this new stuff, this is what you do. He goes, you could be the best at this, he goes, you have to understand, like, I'm a scientific boxer. He goes, this new stuff, this is what you do. You go, you could be the best at this.

He goes, but I'm the greatest ever at this. Right. And it is a science to me. And I have figured out how I'm going to break this guy down. Now, the irony is he went into the ring with that plan, and he was like, this shit ain't fucking working. I need to lay on these ropes. But that's the greatness of Ali, for sure. But there's certain guys that you can just...

Well, it's funny you bring that up because I write about it in my book. That's my father's funniest moment. I've never seen my father laugh harder than when Foreman knocked Frazier upside the back of the head for that final knockdown. I mean, it was just hilarious.

You know, it was like my father laughed about that until the day he died. Wait, what? I mean, it was just hilarious. You know, it was like my father laughed about that until the day he died. I mean, it was 50 years. It didn't span 50 years. He still laughed until the day he died about how Frazier got knocked. Because he had never seen somebody get knocked out of the back of the head.

That way, the foreman hit Frazier. And foreman was menacing. You know, foreman was arguably the most menacing boxer in history. People talk about Mike Tyson. Go back and watch foreman. And how foreman's scared to live menacing boxer in history. People talk about Mike Tyson. Go back and watch Foreman. And how Foreman's scared the living hell out of them. But when you think about brilliant boxers, Floyd's up there.

Sugar Ray was. Ali, of course, the greatest because who went through the adversity that Ali went through, which is why we call him the greatest. But Floyd's up there. He's in the discussion. Okay, so the question is, obviously, Brady's retired. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are like, I think they're hesitant to be like, he's the greatest athlete ever. I think he is.

Do you think? First of all, the word athlete has no business in the same sentence as Tom Brady. Because? That wasn't what he was. He is an elite passer of the football and an elite football mind, which both contributed to him being the greatest quarterback ever. But he ain't the greatest athlete.

That is not true. What makes you an athlete? Yeah. Well, speed, quickness, agility, along with various other skills that come along with the respective sport that you're in. Tom Brady didn't have those things.

You know what? Mike Francesa, formerly of Mike and the Mad Dog Radio Show, they were on my show First Take last week. And they had their reunion. And Mike Francesa made a very valid point. He said, I love Tom Brady. He's got the greatest resume as a quarterback ever.

He's the GOAT. No doubt about it. No shade thrown on him. He said, but we need to understand, he's neither the greatest regular season quarterback ever. That was Peyton Manning. And he said, nor is he the greatest Super Bowl quarterback ever. That would be Joe Montana.

He said, those two quarterbacks. He said, you're talking about Tom Brady. Tom Brady was neither the greatest regular season quarterback nor the greatest Super Bowl quarterback. But that's 10 Super Bowls versus four. I understand that. But what I'm saying to you is that Tom Brady,

say what you will, the fact of the matter is that was factually correct. Well, I would just disagree with greatest because it's not winning percentage to me. It is, you got to take

everything into account. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Then don't, then take everything, not just what you want to. Like, for example, you look at the AFC East. Well, the Jets, the Miami Dolphins, and the Buffalo Bills spent years being trash. They were a joke. So you are an automatic top two seed in the AFC for years. Yeah.

You guaranteed a home playoff game at Foxborough. Okay? Most of the time, two games, an AFC championship game. So you got to take that into account, right? Then you got to take into account the first three Super Bowls Tom Brady won. It's because of that defense. New England. Bill Belichick coached defense. He obviously was the defensive coordinator

before he became the head coach. Ty Law and McGinnis and the rest of the crew, the defense led the New England Patriots, not the Patriots offense. They led, but the winning drive was always Brady. I understand that. And that was every Super Bowl. Well, you could say that.

Well, what about the losing drive? Because guess what? In the AFC Championship game, he couldn't put together a winning drive against Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning had beat him. You also got to remember in the Super Bowl, Eli Manning beat him twice. Yeah, Eli got him twice. Okay, so you got to look at all that. And by the way, he should have lost to Seattle if Pete Carroll and Darryl Bevel didn't call the stupidest play in NFL history

when Marshawn Lynch is running, wreaking havoc over the New England Patriots, gets you to literally the half yard line, and they decide to have Russell Wilson throw a pass over the middle that gets intercepted by Michael Butler at the half yard line. This is what they did. He should have lost that that super bowl he was down 28 to 3 against atlanta but and kyle shanahan decided not to run the football and throw the damn football so an incomplete pass stops the clock which gave new england all the time in the world to come back and erase the 25 point deficit when they were supposed to run the damn football. So there's a lot of things that you can point to.

And Matt Ryan took that sack that took them out of field goal range that ended up letting New England come back. Correct. So all that I get. But again, to me, overall encompassing, 10 Super Bowls is crazy. That's more than every team ever. Well, nobody's saying he's not the GOAT. They're just saying that you can be the GOAT without being the best regular season or the

best Super Bowl quarterback. That's what they're saying. They still call them the GOAT. They're saying, but he's not the greatest regular season quarterback and he's not the greatest Super Bowl quarterback. But the athlete conversation is, I thought there's an athlete as someone who plays a sport because the best athlete is probably some CrossFit guy, but we're not going to call that the greatest athlete. That's fair. I get where you're coming from, but I guess what I'm saying is when we look at a respective sport and we marvel at the greatness of a player,

it's usually because of what they do, that's true, but when you say athlete, you take into consideration a multitude of things. Primetime Deion Sanders is the greatest cornerback that ever lived, but damn could he play wide receiver, and damn could he return punts and kickoffs too,

and damn when he got into the open field, you could pick the fastest dude out there. They had no shot of catching him, which is how he came up with the dance because he could afford to dance because there was nobody on his heels because he would just run away from the crowd because that's how lightning fast and quick

primetime Deion Sanders was. There's a multitude of things, Bo Jackson, baseball, and football, and you saw the versatility of his skill set and the repertoire that he had available to him. You looked at that.

Caitlyn Jenner won a men's decathlon as a woman. That's amazing. Think about that. That's impressive. That's pretty crazy. I'm not going there. I'm not going there.

I'm wasting my time with that. He's like, the mouse is watching. So then maybe the greatest athlete of all time is Usain Bolt. Okay. Because everybody in the world has run straight. Not everybody's played baseball. Not everybody's played basketball.

Well, you could say he's the fastest man. But again, I said versatility when it came to athletics. I didn't say speed. I said versatility. So you say Usain Bolt, you're talking speed. I didn't say speed. I said versatility. So you say you're saying boat, you're talking speed. I'm talking versatility. So Bo Jackson runs,

you know, runs over, you know, runs over these guys when he plays baseball. Dion was playing baseball. Dion played baseball and football as well. So who's your number one? Number one athlete of all time?

Yeah. A lot of people try to say Jim Brown because he played football and lacrosse. Lacrosse, yeah. Apparently he was amazing at lacrosse. He was. They said he was amazing at lacrosse. I'm going to tell you it's a cross between primetime Deion Sanders and Bo Jackson.

That's me. In terms of athleticism. If you want to tell me LeBron because I can imagine LeBron on a football field. What about Tiana Trump? Because a lot of people don't include her and don't know her. Amazing skill set. Amazing skill set.

No recollection. Don't talk about diversity. I don't know. You guys are knocking at your hotel room one day. You never open the door one time? Open the door, say hello. Very nice to meet you. Sorry, not interested.

Have a nice evening. Make sure I get my room service. Look at the peephole one time. Make sure I get my room service. No, no, look at the peephole. Open the door. Open the door. Did you do the movie Underdogs?

No. You didn't do that, the Snoop movie? No. I wish Snoop had called me about that one. I heard you're in it. Aren't you in it? I am in it, but I thought you were supposed to be in it. There's like cameos from... If they did it, I heard you're in it. Aren't you in it? I am in it, but I thought you were supposed to be in it. There's like cameos from...

If they did it, I don't know about it. I might have to make a phone call to Uncle Snoop. You know what I'm saying? I mean, he's the dude. That's my dog right there. Yeah, but the price

You played the Stephen A in the film. Well, no, more of Skip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was cool what you said about Skip in your book, man. About what?

Just about like that he is this person. And that you appreciate people who are like that. Like you would rather somebody stand on their opinions, even if they're wild, than somebody just say a wild thing for reaction. Yeah, that's Skip. That's Skip. I think that he's authentically himself.

I don't think he's a phony or anything like that. I'm going to always have love for him because I wouldn't be where I am in my career today if he hadn't pushed for me to be on first take. So he knew it. He saw something. And he definitely pushed for it. We don't always agree, obviously. That's why we had a successful debate show and all of that stuff. There's things that he has said and done in his career that I would have done differently. There's no doubt about that. But I'm eternally grateful to him for the role that he's played in my life. And I will never allow anybody to think otherwise in terms of how I feel about him.

Okay, I know you got to go, so I don't want to take too much time. Sure. I am, why is it, why are sports so important to us? You've been around sports your entire life. You know it more, probably better than any other human being.

Why is it so important? Why does it elicit this emotion? Why do I cry when I watch a fucking documentary? Because I think it's an escape from this fucked up world that we live in. Even though, like for example, you notice how frustrated people get when politics, social issues, and all of this other stuff infiltrate sports. Yeah, because we're like, we're leaving that to have. Right, right.

And you get very upset when it intervenes. There's a reason for that. Because sports has been utilized as an escape for so long. But my response to that is, that's only because folks weren't paying attention. Society has always infiltrated sports. Think about the civil rights era. Think about the athletes that took the positions that they took. That's why they were famous.

Think about Muhammad Ali with the Vietnam War and refusing to enter the armed services. Think about Jim Brown and Bill Russell and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Think about Kurt Flood fighting for free agency. Think about Jackie Robinson and Larry Doby integrating the sport of baseball. Throughout history, things that have not,

that supposedly didn't have anything to do with sports, ended up having everything to do with sports because what the athletes and the sports world was showing you is that we still have to live in the society once the games stop. And these folks come to the games and they bring that stuff with them. They might cheer for you if they're rooting for you. But what about the Philadelphia Phillies manager that was denigrating Jackie Robinson with racial epithets and all of this other stuff while he was up at the batter's box and calling them all types of names and everything like that? Because when you have people rooting against you, they can do anything to you. We look at Naomi Osaka right now and she's playing tennis. And then you've got people clamoring for folks to stop booing or start reacting or whatever,

because they see her get so emotional. And then the issue of mental health and all of this stuff comes to the forefront. We're constantly seeing things invading the sports world because the athletes come from those worlds and they have to deal with it as well. So why act like it doesn't exist, especially if you're not compromising the game to do it? See, to me, there's no excuse for getting in the way of the game. You Colin Kaepernick, you can protest. I defend him all the time from the standpoint, listen, he took a knee, he did this, he did that, but guess what he didn't do he didn't get in the way of kickoff time he let the games were being played so when i'm arguing with conservative hosts and

stuff like that and they're talking about these things i say he didn't get in the way of the game he's an american citizen he has every right to do what he did he didn't violate any laws he didn't violate any of the sports tenants or anything like that he's just taking this position which is unpopular to some which is popular to others that's the world that we live in. And so when you see sports, even though it's supposed to be an escape, and that's why people clamor to it and gravitate to it, I like the fact that societal issues sometimes infiltrate sports because it's a reminder that even though life can be beautiful and it can be a game life ain't all about games it's about life right so let's deal with all of that while we still manage to play games right steven a smith ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for being

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you soon. Peace. And we're back. Awesome having Stephen A on. Thoughts, guys? He was so fucking cool. I thought just hearing Stephen A cuss is great. You know what I mean? And then he's a little intimidating, but just cool as fuck. No acknowledgement of the cowboy stuff.

Bro, that was so funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I was laughing. He saw me, shook my hand, and like I was dressed normally, and then just kept talking about everything that was happening as if I wasn't. He saw me, he was like,

hey, how you doing, young man? Nice to meet you. That's all he gave me. He must have seen the pod before. He saw how you dressed. He's like, oh, this is it regular. Bro, you were in here for an hour dressed like fucking Woody

and you never said a word. I swear to God, I was like, do I take these stupid ass things off? Dumb fake boots that weren't even real and just asking him honest questions like, so how did that affect your career? And the whole time he didn't say a word. I swear to God, I was asking serious questions

like I can't believe I'm wearing these fucking boots asking these questions. But you committed to it. You never were like, no, I'm going to take it off. Because it would have, I was asking serious questions like I can't believe I'm wearing these fucking boots asking these questions. But you committed to it. You never were like, no, I'm going to take it off. Because it would have been distracted because they had to strap it.

It was like a five-minute process getting it on. I saw the strap on the shoe. I was like, oh, he locked into this the whole episode. Also, we're all assholes

for never bringing it up. Like, oh yeah, by the way, he's a cowboy. No, it's funnier that way. Way funnier that way. Actually, it is funnier that way. Way funnier that way. Not disgusting. Yeah. Way funnier that way. Way funnier that way. Way funnier that way.

Yeah. Way funnier that way. He's a force, man. I'm seeing you guys over there by the bathrooms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been at the top doing what he's done for forever. 100%. Did you get a little nervous asking a question? Yeah.

I saw Al ask a question. He was like... Taking a picture with him right now at the end, I was like, do my arm go around? I've never watched Question Action ever. I've never seen Al look so stupid around another man in my life. This is so funny. Hey, Jay, watch out.

Yeah. You're normally collected. You see this guy on. Was there anything you wanted to ask him that you didn't ask him? What? Like, when he's long and gone, what does he want his legacy to? Yeah, I want to know what he wants to be known at. I mean, obviously, this is going to be

the most fucking blatantly obvious observation, but yeah, he's just such an amazing, he's such an amazing talker, but also builds this incredible momentum. Like, when he gets going. You don't want to break it. Yeah. Because you're entertained. It's like entertaining

when he gets on a roll. And, yeah, it's just what a great skill. But I'm glad we talked about things that weren't sports with him as well. Because I think everybody naturally is just going to try to do sports stuff, but you know that he was getting it. We talked about the things that we got.

But I wanted to ask, because then he said I wasn't as wild as some people. I want to say, you and Irvin, but you know that he was getting in. We were talking about the things that we got in it. But I wanted to ask, but then he said I wasn't as wild as some people. I want to say, you and Irvin, when y'all trade stories back in the day, whose stories are crazier? Oh, nobody fucking with Irvin. But then he was like, that's what he said.

I'm not as wild as some people. I was like, okay, he told me right there. But I wanted to ask. I think he gets more pussy than some players. God, yeah. He's actually more famous than some. You know how Rogan, this is why Rogan's a good comparison. Rogan's more pussy than some players. God, he is. And that's so funny. Like, he's actually more famous than some, you know how like Rogan, this is why Rogan's a good comparison. Like, Rogan's more famous than every fighter.

He's the most famous person in the arena when he's calling the fight. That's so funny. And Stephen A is more famous than most basketball players. If you're not a perennial all-star, perennial, Stephen A more famous. Hell yeah. Yeah, crazy.

And then built it from nothing, and then left ESPN, I don't know who let go of who, but then to come back and then take that Hell yeah. Yeah, crazy. And then built it from nothing, and then left ESPN. I don't know who let go of who, but then to come back and then take that bitch over? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Anyway, he's fire. Okay, what do we got, Mark?

What are we talking about? You want to talk about Tom Brady's second retirement? Hmm. Sad, sad, sad, sad day. Okay, I was asking Charlotte Mayne about this, and I'm curious what you guys think. Like, do you really think that he threw away his marriage for one more year that's the narrative that's out there my suspicion is the marriage was already shaky and and he was like I'm not going to sacrifice playing another year

for something I don't think I can salvage like I want to play another year I'm not going to not do that and then we get divorced anyway yeah I can't fathom that they had the best marriage ever, and because he wanted to play one more year, they're like, no, it's done. Yeah, I wanted him to keep playing for that reason, because it cost you your marriage, but then I thought about it to your point, and I was like, oh, probably he retired, and then he was like, the fact that I don't want to be here anymore probably means we're done. Like, if I'm that willing to go back to football, that lets me know.

Me not having football and just being with you, it's not working. So I think you went back to football knowing it's probably going to cost me my marriage, but it's not what I thought it was. And she probably said the same thing. Having him home

is probably not what I thought it was. Are they fully divorced? Divorced, full. Settled, everything. Oh, it's settled? Yeah, her good days are coming to an end. This is crazy. Bro, she's still cooking.

I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know if you've seen the recent pictures. Stop it, stop it, stop it. Still the mother of the kids, bro. Oh, shit. Fuck. My bad. Now, she was down in Costa Rica, in San Teresa, where we went.

Oh, you met? You saw her? No, I didn't see her. But she goes down there a lot, apparently. And she was down there with the trainer. All these girls get with the trainer. What is up with that? Trainer makes sense.

Why? Because it's someone that's got authority. They typically look good. And on top of that, you're doing hard work together. Yeah. That's going to make your brain fuse. And he makes you feel better every time. Endorphin release every time you see this guy.

Caused by him. So you're feeling your best when you're around him. Yeah, and he's good looking. Testosterone all over this man, all up in this man. It makes sense to me that you hook up with the trainer or the bodyguard. And they already broke that barrier because like, the touching barrier. Physical.

That's why you gotta be like a eunuch. That's what they did back in the day, right? What'd they do back in the day? If you were like a fucking apprentice to the queen or whatever, they chopped your balls off. That makes more sense. I thought the trainers back in the day had no balls. That's what we need to do now. Yeah, but they need the testosterone. Why do you need testosterone?

It's like Grey Worm in Game of Thrones. Yeah, exactly. Well, because I'm not going to listen if you don't got testosterone. If you look like a eunuch, I'm not going to take your advice on fitness. Why not? Be like Yoda. Like Yoda's not the most fit guy. I wouldn't take Yoda's advice.

If Yoda was training you, you wouldn't listen to him? No. He's wise. He would be Anakin for sure. He's not one with the force. Yeah, I'm not one with training you, you wouldn't listen to him? No. He's wise. He would be Anakin for sure. He's not one with the force. Yeah, I'm not one with the force, bro. That's Darth Vader for sure. I'm Harrison Ford.

What? Miles, who is Harrison Ford? What's his name? Han Solo. Han Solo. Han Solo, okay. I don't need that little fucking force shit. Yeah, but you're a guy also.

That's the thing. If there's a guy, I guess I wouldn't even want a guy training my wife in the first place. Yeah, I don't want a guy training my wife. Sorry, man. It's a segue, but you might respect this as an actor who doesn't really like doing his lines. There's a scene in one of those Star Wars where Princess Leia says, I love you, and Han Solo goes,

I know. He was supposed to say, I love you, too, in something mushy, and Aerith's voice was like, my character ain't, there's no bitch, he ain't saying that. So she goes, I love you, And then he just goes, I know. And then they get frozen or whatever the fuck. Which I thought you might respect as an improv. See, Harrison Ford a legend. What would Yoda have done?

That's a good question. He's spoken in a riddle or something. But it's something that wise does. But be honest, your girl comes home and she's like, oh yeah, I got a trainer. We're doing one-on-one sessions. It's this guy. And then shows you a picture of some handsome strapping guy. Nope. I mean, my girl comes home, she's like, oh yeah, I got a trainer. We're doing one-on-one sessions. It's this guy. And then shows you a picture of some handsome strapping guy. Nope.

Yeah. I mean, my girl does have a male trainer. But if it's a group setting, that's fine. Nah. Yeah, it's just one-on-one. I mean, you got to do something. I do have to do something about that. You got to quit comedy when you're 44. That's what you got to do.

That might be a good idea. You got six years. Fuck. But you also don't want her to get out of shape or you don't want to like discourage her. You know what I mean? If she's having a lot of fun with fitness, you don't want to disrupt the whole thing.

Well, now she is a female trainer, but I like that. See, there you go. Yeah. That's good. Make sure she's straight though because if she's gay, it's even more.

Yeah, that's risky. I would way rather get a male trainer than a gay female trainer. Wait, why? Because a gay female trainer knows how, they got the riz, bro. Son, you want Sam, Sam J. being your fucking...

Train her up. Bro. Train her up. She's going to come with all that third pie shit and she'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't care. That's how he tells you your value comes from him. I don't care. I see your value beyond him. I don't care. I don't care. And I got to do nothing to me.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't believe this. nothing to me. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't believe this. I'm not. He's trying to talk it. Yeah. Talk it to existence.

It's a manifest. No, no, I don't care about that. Oh, no, no. You're saying that she's going to, oh, I thought she's trying to hook up with my girl. She's trying to just sabotage our relationship for nothing? Yeah, she's trying to, yeah.

But I would say try. All right. Well, you don't even mess with us. I don't want anybody to try yeah like if i don't care like even if they did i wouldn't i don't know you know oh yeah i don't care now we're talking now it's a whole different ball game i wouldn't care that much i don't think no like listen ideally it's not that but if i had to choose between like a guy or a girl? Yeah, of course. Of course.

Yeah. I don't know, bro. I don't know. Oh, come on. You would rather, you just agreed with me. Yeah, but then he put a different scenario. Yeah. Now I'm all down.

Then he was just talking about fitness. You know what I mean? He was just talking about fitness. Okay. I'm just saying, someone having sex with your wife, you'd rather it be a girl than a guy. Oh, yeah. Sure, but I think the girl would take,

if you get a female trainer, it's not just sex. She's taking that girl emotionally from you. Have her for a little. A couple weeks a year. A couple weeks a year. That's a weekend. Give me some PTO.

Call your time off. Go call your girl, yo. Go call your girl. Take that shit up with her. That might actually work out. I think, girl, yo. Go call your girl. Take that shit up with her. That might actually work out. I think, yeah, them Muslims got it, bro. They could be upset.

They upset about the same shit. Yeah. Y'all should talk this out. Yeah. Like, you're... She's going, you don't spend enough time with me because you're with her.

And it's like, you know who could really relate to this? Work that amongst yourselves. I think there's something to this. Yeah, I think so. Like, I don't even know if they really hate each other like that. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I think that they're, like, competitive, but they don't hate each other.

It's like F1 drivers. Do you know what I mean? Like, they're all trying to jockey for positions. It's like Brady and Manning. Yeah, exactly. But they don't hate. They relate the most. Yeah, they get it to jockey for a position. It's like Brady and Manning. Yeah, exactly. But they don't hate. They relate the most. Yeah, they get it.

They fucking know the life. It's like presidents. You know how, like, all presidents just hang out with each other because they're the only ones who know what it's like? Yeah. That's what it is. Y'all some presidential pussy. Do you know what I mean?

Talk about that life together. That's it. That's it. I quite like it. I don't want to deal with that stress. I don't want to deal with life together. That's it. That's it. I quite like it. I don't want to deal with that stress. I don't want to deal with that stress. That seems like too much stress, but you having,

you'd rather a fucking dude over a girl? Me with your wife is crazy, bro. I thought I would. Y'all making me question myself now. Yeah. Okay. You should question yourself. I'm going to commit,

but y'all really making me feel insecure about my decision. How the fuck are you so secure about it that you called a guy? Yeah. That's a trainer guy. Man, I don't know, bro. I just think a girl's going to get in there more deeply. What is wrong with you, bro?

You just agreed with me. Yeah, but then he made way more sense, bro. I don't know what you were thinking about. I know I was bugging you. That was one of the craziest things ever. I was bugging you. I was bugging you. Yeah, you see?

Okay, I was bugging too. There we go. Get off me. Yeah, that's all I need. There weging. That was one of the craziest things ever. I was bugging. I was bugging. Yeah, you see? Okay, I was bugging too. There we go. Get off me. Yeah, that's all we need. There we go. Thank God. But yeah, all that to say, I don't think him going back for another season

actually like ended it. I think that was the beginning of the end. I don't even know what we're talking about right now. Him with Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Tom Brady, yeah. I was like, who's going back for another season? I had no clue.

No, that's right. Yeah, yeah. I don't think that's the thing that ended it. There's no fucking way. I think it's like when all your kids move out and then you realize what you have in your relationship. Yeah. I think this is the same thing.

He gets done with his career and he goes, okay, where's our relationship at? Yeah. Not in a good place. So I don't think it was the one additional season. I think it was the 20 seasons before that that slowly eroded things away and other communication issues.

Or them 20 seasons held us together. And then when it was finally home, it was like, you know what? This sucks. We suck together. That's the it was finally home, it was like, you know what? This sucks. We suck together. That's the thing. It's like, she's got her career.

She's making crazy money. So she's busy. She's got a full-time job. She's busy as fuck. She's flying around the world doing all this fashion shit. Okay? He's got his career. He's busy as fuck.

You had a quarterback. Yeah. Right? And he was more obsessive than everyone. Of course. All year. So it's like,

there's no time. Yeah. Think about how little time we have. Yeah it's like, there's no time. Yeah. Think about how little time we have. Yeah. There's no way they have time. Yeah. Right? So, of course, you get along.

Of course, you think you do. Oh, two good-looking people that see each other once a month. And have children together. Oh, my God. How do you manage that? Right? Of course, you're going to be able to keep the marriage together. And then, like you said, the second you stop

playing, we're together too much. This don't work. Didn't AB stay at their house for a while? Yeah. He's implied some crazy shit. We should have known their marriage was over. You having some other dude just come to the crib. And AB's a wild one. You having a wild dude come live with us so you can win

the championship. Our children are here, yo. What's going on? Our shorties never want to have, like, guys over because then, like, she just has to do everything and we just have the fun.

Yeah. Yeah. That's why Miles couldn't live with me, okay? That's why. I'm telling you. When you're married,

you got a domicile. You got a domicile. You can't disrupt that. Yeah, Miles, that's too much testosterone coming in. That's what I'm saying, dude. Yeah, Miles coming in,

he's going to fuck up the whole thing. He's going to ignore your wife completely. So Miles comes over, your wife is probably like saying, dude. Yeah, Miles coming in. He's going to fuck up the whole thing. He's going to ignore your wife completely. So Miles comes over, your wife is probably like, thank God. Yeah, I know.

Something I can talk to. That's honestly true. That's honestly a great point. Did y'all see Last of Us? I haven't seen it yet. Did you see it? Not the new one. I'm watching tonight.

I am caught up, though. I need more. I'm caught up, finally. I needed more of that episode. I told you. I needed more from that. It was told you. I needed more from that. It was too short. It was like a 45-minute episode.

Oh, well, they gave us an hour and 20 last time. So I kind of like when shows fuck with times, though. Because each episode is a piece. Yeah, but this is the director did this episode and the next episode. Oh. So I think they basically shot a movie with him. Okay. And they just chopped it in half.

It does feel chopped. Yeah, it does feel like. Yeah, there wasn't like a real. they basically shot a movie with him. Okay. And they just chopped it in half. Gotcha. So hopefully- It does feel chopped. Yeah, it does feel like- Yeah, there wasn't like a real- It was the thing, you know? But I did like the humor that they added to it. Like, you're starting to see

the bond between them and they're doing it in a kind of cool way. And she just has this book of puns. Yeah, yeah. And you know how puns aren't funny until you keep saying them? Yeah.

And then they become like, they compound and become hilarious. Like they get exponentially funnier the more you try to catch on over the pun. And she's just doing it and you're seeing him like slowly like break in the episode. I'm not giving away anything.

But yeah, so they're just, yeah, there's aspects of the show which are like fantastic. And then there's other parts where it's like, I wait a week for this and I look forward to it and I'm so excited. I need a little bit more.

Don't let me down. Yeah. Yeah. Don't let me down. Like, I'm like, it's crazy having a show again. Awesome.

Like, I'm way, I'm like going, I'm like, oh, we got something to do Sunday. Yeah. But what if next week

delivers on this week? Well, that's what happens. Delivers meaning, it'll deliver on next week and it'll tie up loose ends from this week's episode. Then I'm good.

I can give you one episode, two episodes in a row as pushing it. Yeah. And then three episodes in a row as walking dead. Three strikes a row. I fucking tapped out.

Yeah. But they're great, man. I'm telling you. We were talking about this on Brilliant Idiots a bit, but the batting average of HBO is truly remarkable. It's nothing like it.

Yeah. Nothing like it. Almost no comics have specials that hit at the rate that HBO hits on TV shows. It's like right now, live active HBO shows. Succession.

Everybody loves Succession. Euphoria. Best show, one of the best shows I've ever seen White Lotus Fire House of Dragons

The Last of Us Jesus like I'm sure there's ones I'm forgetting Batgirl shut the fuck up do you know what I'm saying

if they cancelled it if they spent a hundred million that's why they're good this is like what Steve Jobs did he would release products and they'd be about to drop and they spent $100 million, though. That's why they're good. This is like what Steve Jobs did. He would release products, and they'd be about to drop, and they invested fucking $100 million into this one thing.

He goes, eh, it's not right. Scrap it. Change it. We're not releasing it. They did it with a bunch of shit. He's just like, if it's not perfect, we're not putting it up. There it is. Yeah. Because they maybe understand more than anybody,

every time you have a bad show, it erodes a little bit of trust in a brand. Right? It's like the consistency of going to a restaurant. If you could consistently make food that's a B+, I'd rather that

than sometimes A+, sometimes C+. Yeah. Like, I know that you were posting about a Ruby Rosa, which is this great fucking Italian spot. Yeah.

And it's like, the pizza's fire. And you go there, and that shit is consistent. I'm 100%. That consistency, if you start to fluctuate, now I can't really, it's like, the pizza's fire. And you go there, and that shit is consistent. I'm 100%. That consistency, if you start to fluctuate, now I can't really. It's a date. I want to take a girl there.

I don't know if you're going to give me A plus or C. I can't. If you are a friend coming in town to visit me, I'm taking you to Ruby Rosa. Boom. Shouts to Julio, but I'm taking you. I know you're going to enjoy it. You're going to be like, yo, I'm not getting this anywhere else. And you're going to have a great time done.

I don't have to stress about finding the right restaurant for you. It's great. And that's why that Netflix model where they're just throwing out so much shit, it's like, it's impossible to throw out that much and maintain the quality. You know, they tried to do a live-action Squid Game, and then they had to scrap it because people were getting hurt. There's no way that's going to be good. A live-action, a real Squid Game.

That should be far. Amazing. It pulled off, correct? Yeah, that's the thing. That should be far. Amazing. It pulled off, correct? Yeah, that's the thing. You're not pulling it off. It's not going to be nearly as high stakes as the show. Also, it's like, do you even watch your own content? The whole point of the show is capitalism is a problem

and it makes people eat themselves. And then you're like, and Netflix is like, that was a hit, let's do that in real life. Like, they missed the whole fucking point of the show. That is true. HBO would never lack that self-awareness. That's funny. Yeah, I still would have watched it.

I still would have. Bro, that is so... It's crazy, right? Dude, this reminds me, I went down to, you remember Manager Miles we had on the pod? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Manager Miles just had his 30th birthday. He's like, bro, would you come down and would you roast me or whatever? And I never

fucking do this, but I love this guy. Okay, fine. I'll do it. And it was a Gatsby-themed party. Right. And I never fucking do this, but I love this guy. And I was like, okay, fine. He's great. I'll do it. And it was a Gatsby themed party, right? And I'm like, this guy's never fucking read The Great Gatsby. It's like The Great Gatsby, or Gatsby the character, was a scam artist.

Yeah. That conned his way into high society by throwing extravagant events. Yeah. It's like, what are you admitting to all the people that are at this party? It shows the issue of like chasing what are you admitting to all the people that are at this party? It shows the issue

of like chasing wealth and shit. It's the people that watch like Wolf of Wall Street. And then he loses it all by the way. Or Wall Street. Yeah. And they heard greed is good

and they're like, greed is good. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that movie made me want to do that. Exactly. Wall Street?

Yeah. Yeah. Like, there's certain movies that like if I saw at a younger, Yeah. Like, there's certain movies that, like, if I saw it at a younger, more impressionable age, I would have absolutely, like, remember Charlie Wilson's War? Did you guys see that movie

at all? I knew of it, but I never saw it, yeah. And it was just, it made being a politician look kind of cool. Yeah. And then, you remember that? Yeah. And then the same thing with The Wolf of Wall Street, I'm like, oh, wow, like, just ruining people's lives and, like, scamming them out of their money. This is awesome. This is great. And then nothing happens

at the end? Yeah. And then you kind of go to jail, but you don't? Yeah. What is the point of that movie? It works out? Yeah, exactly. If you be the worst human, it works out. That's one where they try to tie the moral in afterwards. They do all this crazy shit and they're like, but don't do this.

But we have to come up with a moral to make it justifiable when we're telling all these crazy fucking stories. I guess why their life has to completely fall apart at the end of a mob movie. Like, a mob movie can't end happily. A mob movie, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you can't endorse the lifestyle. You have to die, or everybody you love dies. Everything has to fall.

Casino, everything falls apart. Because it's too romantic. Yeah. If it worked out, I'm doing that, yo. I seen Scarface when I was younger. Still wanted to do it. It's crazy how many rappers love Scarface. Bring on the problems.

Bring on the motherfucking problems. He dies. Everything falls apart for this man. He's like, it'll be different with me. Yeah, you just stop the movie right before the end. You just pause it. He got greedy. Yeah, that's the thing movie right before the end. You just pause it. You got greedy. Yeah, that's it.

There is something to that. I wonder if you can sell drugs. I wonder if there are people there who could do it without being too greedy. I've had this thought thousands of times. Really? Yeah, I got it. But you don't think it's intoxicating? Nah.

You know what's funny? I know people who've been selling disciplined yeah for a really long time they don't really change the amount they don't really add new clients

and they've just been kind of like gambling for a long time question if they applied that to something legitimate do you think they would make just as much money

no probably not because drugs is just such fast money I used to think I used to think that right but much money? No. Probably not because drugs is just such fast money. I used to think that, right? But I used to be like,

oh yeah, if these guys just got into business, they'd be able to do the same thing in business. And it's like, no they wouldn't. This is an illegal drug that is addictive

by nature. It's a lot different than selling fucking top souls or whatever or like hamburger makers. That's a hard thing to do. There's competition. This one,

you get to shoot your competition. Yeah. You know? And the competition is terrified to do it. Like, once it's legal to sell it,

everybody's on that ass. Right? I mean, maybe some principles are similar, but please believe if they really thought that they had, like, the business acumen

to, like, succeed with any product, they'd go do that. And some of the guys go legit and haven't really done much yeah like jay-z was a worse drug dealer than he is a businessman yeah like you know what i'm saying like jay well that's why i saw he wasn't like kingpin like he's he's a kingpin of business now oh yeah but he stopped but that's what i thought continued maybe maybe you never know that's true that's what i thought even be he wasn't a he maybe. Maybe. You never know. No, that's true. That's what I thought.

Even he wasn't a, he's a fine drug dealer, I guess. Based on what I hear, he made a life. But then when he went legit, it's like, oh, this guy's a fucking genius. Oh, yeah, yeah. So that's why I was thinking

if those guys, with that discipline, applied it to something else, they could climb real high. Oh, maybe, yeah. Because discipline is the hardest thing. Yeah.

Discipline every fucking week or whatever. This is what I do. These are, I live by this. That's hard, especially when you can get that greedy and there's that much temptation

and there's still that discipline. I assume if you can apply that to something else, legitimate, you can make a lot of money. Man, for me, it'd be a combination of like greed and risk. It's like, if at this amount, I'm already doing 25 years, I need to make the most money at 25 years. That's kind of how I would do the equation. Like, if I'm selling the amount where it's just a misdemeanor,

okay, I'm not going past that. Because I can handle a misdemeanor and I can continue my life. Once we get into big years, I need big money to justify it. Yeah. Like, imagine getting 25 years and only making, like, a teacher's salary. Yeah. Yeah, nah. Yeah, and then not to mention the risk in day-to-day life. People trying to kill you. People trying to rob teacher's salary. Yeah, nah. And then not to mention

the risk in day-to-day life. People trying to kill you. People trying to rob you. I'm telling you, there's people that are just doing it normally where it's not the, I'm taking out the competition. It's not the, oh, I need to reach new heights and new money. It's like, no, this is like a nice little

sum that I make that just pads what I do legally. Right. Oh, they also have jobs. Yeah, they also have jobs. Can I ask what they're selling? Are they selling like super hard shit? That's pretty hard.

So they also work at a UPS or something like that. Because there's that guy who got picked. Did you see that? The guy at the U.S. Postal Service was delivering coke. Which is kind of genius. Yeah. It's amazing. They also put the tags on it and be like,

it's not mine. That's a movie. Why doesn't anyone make that movie? That shit is awesome. Right? Like the dude that's doing UPS and also like slinging drugs on the side. There's a former dealer who's gone talking about everything in his past about dealing and saying, between UPS, FedEx, and the Postal Service,

like, UPS, all the packages come through a central facility and people there would know and they'd get the drugs and take them out or take them resell themselves but the amount of drugs the US Postal Service has sent is un-fucking-luck.

Because they don't even check a lot of the boxes. Nah. Thank you you guys. I also guess you can't apply regular business practices to drug dealing. You know what I mean? Like, you can't be like, oh, I'm going to scale. I'm going to franchise. I'm going to get all these employees.

Like, because the more scalability that you do, the more open you make yourself. Yeah. And on top of that, you're operating outside the law. So it's not like you can even use the regular law. Set up an LLC, do whatever the fuck. So, like, you might think, oh, I want to operate like a real entrepreneur. And that these people are, like, generally entrepreneurial. But then as you become a real business, you're more exposed. So it's, like, resisting the urge to be more efficient and, like, more economical.

You know what I mean? Yeah. And so a lot of these, like, drug dealers, they got to just be like, all right, yeah, I'm just going to only keep it at this level. And they have that fucking discipline. Yeah. I think they got to have some other way to, like, exercise their entrepreneurship. You know what I mean? Oh. Like, keep it as a hobby. Yeah. I think they gotta have some other way to like exercise their entrepreneurship. You know what I mean? Like keep it as a hobby.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like if this is your main thing and you want to scale and you want to be great, they're gonna get clipped eventually because you can't just keep on

expanding exponentially without being too exposed. You know what I mean? I mean 100%. It's a matter of time. Yeah. Like everybody who's spent some serious time

in a game says it. They're just like, you're gonna get caught. Yeah, yeah. It's 100%. And you just get a hope that you accumulate enough money where you can handle the time and then get back out. All right, guys, we're going to take a break real quick because you are drinking too much caffeine. I'm not saying you can't have your coffee.

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Okay, well, what else we got, boys? What else cooking, man? We got China with the balloon. Everybody making a big deal out of that. Yeah, we got the Kyrie trade. Kyrie. Which is of note to me just because I'm from Dallas

and that's more stupid shit that Dallas Sports is doing just driving me crazy. Okay, I have a theory on this. Okay. Because we've all approached the Kyrie situation as people who are outside of the business, right? As fans, and we're just going,

why would anybody want this guy on his team? Obviously, the skill is undeniable, but why would you put up with this headache, right? When the guy's not playing because of his political reasons, he's not playing because of his physical reasons. The guy just doesn't headache, right? When the guy's not playing because of his political reasons, he's not playing because of his physical reasons. The guy just doesn't play, right? So why would you bring that person and put that person on your team? And of course, the Dallas Mavericks make the trade.

My theory here is that Mark Cuban and other owners and other GMs, they have egos too. Oh, yeah. And they feel that they can motivate and manipulate players and also just other people that work for them into doing the things that they want. They have so much confidence that they've built these incredibly successful businesses and they should have that confidence, right? So he's going, I'm a billionaire because I was able

to motivate people. I was able to get people on my side and believe in my vision. You don't think I can get this kid on my side to believe in my vision? This kid believes

the earth's flat. I can get him to believe that he's a part of the Dallas Mavericks team. Like, it seems like the easiest thing, I imagine, for a guy like Mark Cuban.

Yeah, I think you think you can change them. You're the guy who thinks they can change the girl. Don't save him. He don't want to be saved. He can't save this man. I was talking to a friend about this, a mutual friend of ours, and I was saying

Dallas could really, the fan base could really love this guy. Oh, they're going to adore him. He's anti-vax, possibly anti-semitic. I feel like a lot of these things are going to line up with the Texas fan base. You know what I mean? He thinks the earth is flat.

He's going to be at the fucking Grassy Knoll every day in Dallas trying to figure out the JFK conspiracy. Like, this guy is perfect for the Dallas fan base. And maybe that'll save him. But I just, every time you think, every time you hear it's a risk, but we're going to take it, it almost never works out, especially in sports. A hundred percent. It's a risky move, but it could it it almost never works out especially in sports 100% it's a risky move

but it could work it never works out never but I think above that like not to say the fucking Texas fans are all like fucking anti-Semites and shit

but just that I think they see him as a free thinker and like a maverick and literally the whole ethos of the state is like oh we are the lone star

like we push back on what everyone else is doing and Kyrie is like literally an exemplification of that and is also nice at basketball. Bro, it was so funny today. Because I didn't know that he was Jewish, Mark Cuban.

I thought you said Kyrie. No, I didn't know that either. No. And then Charlamagne goes, I thought he was Cuban. And I didn't think he was Cuban, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing. Right, right, right. Like I did kind of think he was Latino or something it wouldn't be the craziest thing. Right, right, right. Like, I did kind of think he was Latino or something. Yeah, I thought he was.

Yeah. I thought he was just an Anglo guy. No, Jewish. Full? Halvesies? Jewish. Dove? Son, you didn't even know about this one.

I honestly did not know that he was. So why are you doing this, Mark? Wow. Just makes sense, though, right, guys? Just saying. The guy. We got another one. We got another one. We got another one. Mark Wow Wow just make sense all right guys Not bad the KD Boston trade that shit is kind of crazy Wait, did this happen? I think it officially went through what moments ago? Yeah, I think KD went to awesome. Yeah, no, I Don't believe this am Am I bugging?

Did I just make that up? Stephen A. Smith issues major report. No, I think it's a rumor. Oh, all right. My bad. He's on the verge of potentially being moved. Yeah. I can't find anything.

Oh, okay. So maybe it's a rumor. So they've gotten the team, basically. Yeah. But if he goes to Boston, poof. That's scary. That is going to be a squad.

It's going to be a squad. They definitely probably win. Definitely probably. But... Prohibitive favorites. Favorites. That's what I'd say. But here's the thing.

He'll forever be looked at as a guy who just was added to already great teams. Yeah. I don't know if he wants that. He doesn't. I'm sure he doesn't.

Apparently, the next— You don't think that would be his team if he goes there? Well, Golden State was his team, but you're already going to a place with a few stars. Jason Tatum is the guy. Yeah. Jason Tatum hasn't won, so it's more up for grabs. It could be like LeBron and Wade. KD would be the guy if he went there, like LeBron and Wade. Yeah.

But at the same time, the people, the public would view it as, you know, you're just hopping on a team that was already there, and then you're putting them over the top. I mean, they went to the finals last year, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They did go to the finals last year and almost won. They were up 2-1.

Like, they should have won. Oh, shit. Yeah. So, and this year, they're by far the best team in the East, probably overall best team. Yeah.

And he will go there and be the best player. There's no question. Yeah. But if we're looking for ways to discredit LeBron, there's no way that people aren't going

to discredit KD. Do you think the Celtics, I mean, the Nets could do this on purpose knowing KD doesn't want it? Because apparently the Lakers and Suns made better offers for Kyrie than the Mavs did. They're saying that the owner didn't want to send him to the team that he wanted to go to. The Nets were offered two first round picks from the Lakers.

Now they said this gives them the best chance to win now. I don't believe that shit for a second. Mavs traded good players but not like that. Chance to win now? I don't believe that shit for a second. Mastery to good players, but not like that. So the Lakers offered two first-round picks and Russell Westbrook, who his contract is off the books this year.

And then the Suns offered Chris Paul, Jay Crowder, and a first-round pick. And then the Nets said no. Yeah, it was fixed. And now they're sending him to a team, and I don't know what your opinion is, but Dallas has a great ball handler in Luka, Yeah. And now it's Kyrie and Luka. Do they play well together? It could be. They could play really well together, but you're not looking at them as real contenders.

You're just not. Yeah. I mean, you need the ball in Luka's hand. I think what's interesting is that Luka needs help scoring. And Kyrie is a guaranteed bucket. He can get you buckets. But how much does Kyrie need to touch the ball is the question. Well, Luke also needs rest, I think, is what they were.

He's getting hurt all the time. Somebody do all that. But I'm wondering if the Nets are like, you know what, KD, you got us into this mess. The last thing you want is to go to the Celtics and win a championship as another bus driver. We're sending you to the fucking Celtics, my guy. Have fun. Have fun.

You made us keep this guy. Have fun. Have fun. You made us keep this guy. Have fun. What do the Nets do now? Like, how do they lose all their stars and have, like, generally underwhelming seasons?

So now you... Kyrie Irving. You just restart? You rebuild, but you've given the Rockets your draft picks like through 2027.

Yeah. Because you did that for James Harden. Yeah. They more used their future just to fuck it. Didn't they get draft picks for Kyrie?

They got one first-round pick and two second-round picks, which is Harden. Yeah. They mortgaged their future and just said, fuck it. Didn't they get draft picks for Kyrie? They got one first round pick and two second round picks, which is not much. Yeah. You're still in the hole heavy. You're still, when you're bad, because you're not going to be good for a while,

you're hoping the Mavericks are bad because you get their picks, and then the Celtics are not going to be bad. You're going to get their picks. And you're giving up really good picks

in the meantime. Think how annoying Kyrie is. That the owner was like, I don't give a fuck how long we're bad. Get him out of here. Yeah. Yeah.

Fuck. Yeah, that's kind of wild. And why did he request a trade specifically? Do we know? Just in our politics? They weren't going to pay him. Oh, that's right.

He was working on a contract extension and they didn't want to do it. He said, he claims even if they were, he still wanted a trade. Oh. But it was like,

come on. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Kyrie to trade. But it was like, come on. No, no, no, no. Kyrie's a problem. But just like, you know, this is sports. You have a rare ability. People keep on giving you chances. Like, how many chances did fucking Antonio Brown get? Yeah, that's true.

That's true. That's my only hope is the Mavericks can trade him before everybody realizes this guy burns down every franchise. Yeah. Okay, what do we got? Let's do one more thing, then get out of here. All right, you saw this viral video, this comic falling off stage. How many people sent you this video?

It was an unbelievable amount of people. I mean, unreal. Okay, if anyone hasn't seen it, here you go. I've been having a lot of sexual escapades, you know, like having little adventures with some freaky Chicago girls. And I've come to the realization, I've been talking to one, that I don't think pegging is necessarily that gay. That was God right there.

Son of a... Alex, you wild. That was his God right there. The Christian God. So it's a guy on stage at the Laugh Factory in Chicago. And he's walking along the stage doing a set. And then he says, I've come to the realization that pegging is not necessarily in Chicago. And he's walking along the stage doing a set.

And then he says, I've come to the realization that pegging is not necessarily that gay. And the second he says it, he falls off the stage and then stumbles to get up. Nobody reacts at all. It's dead silent when he falls. And it's just the most awkward fucking video you've ever seen. What do you do? You finish that joke? Yeah, I think you have to.

You got to. Just do it from the ground. I think you just lay there and you finish it. Where's the rest? I need to see the rest of the video. No, I think you have to. You got to. Just do it from the ground. I think you just lay there and you finish it. Where's the rest? I need to see the rest of the video. No, I wish they put the rest up. I don't want to be a hater. I kind of think staged.

Really? It's very funny. It doesn't change how funny it is to me. And I hope there's another angle that shows people, but the fact there's no one there, no one responds, you don't even hear anything in the mic.

You know what I kind of think? I kind of think it was just an open mic. Maybe, yeah, that's true. And then that's where he fell now he commented on the whatever the clip i saw he said something like this guy must be hilarious you should check out more of his videos which seems like it seems like he took an l and then he was like yo we should put this out this would be fun of course i think it was organic and then he was yeah it's so funny just laugh factory being like let's put this out i think he was like please put that out yeah of course it's so funny kudos to him for laughing at himself.

They subtitled the clip of him falling. They sent it to an editor. They were like, yeah, spell it, paste it out, right? There was production put into it. But it is very funny. But nah, that kills it for me if you think he fell on purpose. I don't know. I don't believe he did.

I just think he saw what it was after and was like, I have to put this out. I don't know if he thought it would be this big. Son, that shit is hilarious. Did he film it or does Laugh Factory film all the sets? Laugh Factory filmed sets. So I think they were just filming. Yeah, it's incredibly funny. Yeah, I mean, it's just fucking unbelievable.

Thank God they filmed all the sets. I don't know. You'd expect some reaction from the crowd or something. I don't know. Maybe it just didn't pick up in the mic. I don't know. I think it's an open mic where there's very few people there. But why? Is the mic not even on? No, it is. I just figured you'd hear the up in the mic? I don't know. I think it's an open mic where there's very few people there. But why, is the mic not even on?

No, it is. I just figured you'd hear the audience through the mic. Well, when he falls, you hear the mic clunk. So if it stayed, you'd have had to tell them, hey, go turn on the mic, and I'm going to go fall. So I do think it meant it wasn't supposed to happen. It was real. But I think when he saw it, he was like, this is hilarious. And again, kudos to him for being like,

let's laugh at me. Yeah. Because I'm way too insecure to put that shit up. Really? I'm insecure to say the first line. Yeah. I'm not even saying the joke.

Pegging isn't that gay. No, I'm not saying that. Yeah, that's not a joke to you. You say you're gay every single week. Yeah, but that's just the truth. Yeah, but yo, pegging is not gay

is gayer than saying you're gay. Saying pegging's not that gay is way gayer than being like, I'm gay. Because now you're fighting for pe truth. Yeah, but yo, pegging is not gay is gayer than saying you're gay. Saying pegging's not that gay is way gayer than being like, I'm gay. I'm fighting for pegging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit. I mean, is pegging that gay, though?

Yeah. Yeah. What if it's not a strap-on? What if it's just an insertion? I don't even know what that means. Doesn't your book say no sodomy or whatever the fuck that shit is? It says you can't lay with another man,

but it doesn't say anything about your girl smashing you with a giant dildo. Oh, I thought they say no butt fucking. No, they just say you can't lay with a man. You can't lay with a man the way you lay with a woman. Well, what is Sodom and Gomorrah? They got burned at Crisp and it was Sodom. That's dudes.

That's my point, okay? It can't be dude on dude, but if it's a girl banging you with a giant penis, that's fine. Oh, well. It's the town of all dudes. Why didn't God just send some hoes up in there and see what happens? Yeah, no. Before he decides to burn it all down. That's on him. You got to take that up with him. I had nothing to do with that. Yeah, why make the town of all dudes. Why didn't God just send some hoes up in there and see what happens? Yeah, I know. Before he decides to burn it all down. That's on him. You gotta take that up with him. I had nothing

to do with that. Why make the town like that? Seems like he's asking for it. Yeah, right? A little bit. Send him off to fail. Yeah. I thought God was against ass-fucking-guy-girl ass-fucking-tool. Yeah, sodomy is against the law. Yeah, yeah, technically. But I don't know if it's in the Bible. Is it against the law in the Bible

or is it not in the Bible. This guy doesn't know. Yo, where's Shifty? Somebody who actually knows this shit. Imagine the people of, like, the town of Sodom finding out the Adam and Eve story, and they're like, all it takes is a rib. I've been butt-fucking Jim for the last three years. I could have been making bitches.

Is that what you're saying? Fuck. Like, that is crazy. Is that what you're saying? Fuck. Like, that is, of course they didn't read the Bible. That's really their sin. If they read the Bible, they would know.

They would know. They got girls locked in. It's true. Right? You got a woman inside of you. Right there. They're trans in the first place, really, if you think about it.

Damn, man. Anyway, listen, whatever your name is, man, keep on doing it. Give him a shout out. Oh, I don't know. We've got to find out his name. What's his name?

I don't see his name. Malcolm in the Middle? Hey, tell Malcolm in the Middle to keep on at it. I want to see the whole joke. We need Malcolm to send us the whole joke. Please send us the whole joke. Agent Cody Banks, you got this. And then the gym saga has escalated.

I don't know if you've seen this. We talked about this a little bit. Break this down. So, like, more and more people are addressing, like, girls filming in the gym and catching guys creeping on them and then posting the guys creeping, I guess as a way to retaliate against years of guys being creeps in the gym without any justice, right? And so now, but then people are calling it out, being like,

just because a guy walked past you doesn't mean that he's checking you out. Shout out to Joey Swole, dude. He'd be checking these hoes. Yeah, exactly. So this video went viral where basically it's a girl doing a squat, right? And she's filming and then she gets to the bottom of the squat

and she gets a little bit stuck. Yeah, she should have stopped at that rep right there. Solid rep. That was me with Dove on my back. She's like, oh, oh, oh. Can't she just throw that shit back? Yeah, just drop it. That was me with Dove on my back. Can't she just throw that shit back? Yeah, just drop it. Yeah, I think technically she can.

I don't know why she didn't. Let it go. See? That's what happens happens My knee would have Been exploded bro This is hard to look at This is athletic Honestly

They speed up the video Because it's Let it go She's sitting there that long This should be It's own workout really Yeah it's impressive This is it's own exercise

Yeah silent treatment And then eventually This girl comes And helps her out Oh she just didn't want The embarrassment Of dropping the weight Yeah yeah And then eventually this girl comes and helps her out. Oh, she just didn't want the embarrassment of dropping a weight. I guess, but like,

the real best ending of this video is if they just turn the lights off and they just close the gym and she's like, hello?

Anyone? But yeah, people are saying, oh, this is a case of like, be careful what you wish for. It seems like it. I don't know. I'm also like,

I just feel like if any guy was there, I can't imagine a guy. It seems like it. I don't know. I'm also like, I just feel like if any guy was there, I can't imagine a guy saw that and was like, I'm not gonna. I think she says excuse me to a guy at some point. He's got his headphones in.

He's not paying attention. Yeah. We don't look at women in the gym, bro. Yeah. No, we do, but. Nah, we don't. No, we do.

But like, we do. Nah. We look at people in the gym. Okay. Especially a woman at the bottom of a squat. Let's be honest about this. You're not looking at that.

You know the thing that's crazy? Like, when we see influencers in the wild, we're looking at them. Influencers. Influencer. You said it like influenza. Shut the fuck up. Like, we look at them because they're doing something. We see the tripod.

Like, it's just curiosity. So when you see a girl at the gym with a fucking tripod, and you can actually just be curious. You might not just be trying to look at her because of what she's doing. That was good. Yeah, you see? It's just curious. It's curious. Yes.

Yes. I'm just a content creator. Looking at another content creator. This is like when a bear goes up to a camper, and he's sniffing the tent, and every animal expert's like, oh, he's just curious This is like when a bear goes up to a camper and he's like sniffing the tent and every animal expert's like, oh, he's just curious. He's not. He's just sniffing.

He's genuine. And he's fucking biting on the glass dome. He's just curious. He just wants to know how to eat fish. He's just genuinely curious. He doesn't know what he's looking at. Yeah.

Yeah, we're all curious. Just curious, bro. We just want to know. They're curious, too. They're looking at us. In the footage. Yeah. I don't know. I'm just... What's wrong

with looking, bro? You can't look no more? You can't leer. You can look. You can't leer. What is leer? Staring in a fucking creepy way. How long is that? Yeah, what's the time frame? Yo, just give us a time frame and then if we go over it... I think five seconds max. Five seconds? Well, you can test it.

You can test it out. That's what I'm saying, but that's what creeps do. Here. Three seconds, I was going to say, but maybe that's too short. Look, it's just this. It's one, two, and then done. Two seconds tops. Stare at me. I'm just a second and a half.

That was long. I feel like you're slow as fuck with that timer, but yeah. You got a second and a half. I think it also depends on the person. Yeah. I think for you it's a second and a half. I think it also depends on the person. Yeah. I think for you, it's a second and a half, I'll be honest. For Indians, it's probably shorter. We've done that to ourselves, I gotta be honest.

It's slightly lower. We've done that to ourselves, I gotta be honest. Yeah, that's on us. That's 100% on us. I think depending on where you are, I think there's different people you can stare for longer. Yeah, black people, we don't get as much time as whites. You don't think so?

We do a little street harassment. You think whites can stare the most? We don't have the best rep. I guess that's a good point. Son, Excuse Me Miss was a hit song all about street harassment.

Word. Facts. That's true. We just want to see them smile. Alex stopped staring at people after Burning Man. Yes.

Stopped staring and smiling. Now he just hugs them. Yes. Staring at strangers all over the city. Full on physical assault. There's a little weirdly funny about a girl filming herself

for Instagram. Like, you can't stare at me at the gym, but you are allowed to stare at that exact same video on Instagram. That's a great point, dude. Obviously, there's two different things,

but it is funny to me that someone's like... They just don't want to know. Yeah, exactly. They like that song. I don't want to know. One person can't stare at me. If you're creeping, I don't want to know. One person can't scare me. If you're creeping, please don't let it show.

That's such a good point, though. It is kind of funny. Millions of people, you're shooting this content at a gym for millions of people to gawk at you? Yeah. And I do get the frustration. This is their version of getting justice when there was no recourse

for years or whatever. But it is funny. It's like I got a ring light and I'm filming my ass at the gym. Yeah, but how often did stares turn into you didn't pay for drinks that night? Wait, what? Like there's a good side of getting stared at. I see it. The positive side is you stare and then you get drinks.

Okay. You have a family maybe one day. What if I'm at the gym though? Say again? What are you paying for at the gym? Is there a protein shake? Can I get you a smoothie? That one girl needs a little protein shake.

Maybe she should have accepted some stares. This is from the trainer in the corner. Exactly. No, I don't know. I'm just trying to say, like, there has to be some level of engagement.

We have to allow some level of engagement. If you don't want someone to talk to you, okay, that's fine. But there's a difference between inconvenience and harassment.

We need Texas Day Brazil, like, Brazilian Steakhouse cards. I think that'll help. Oh, the green light, red light, green light? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but the red light, green light is depending on who you are. So you can't even do Oh, the green light, red light, green light? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but the red light, green light is depending

on who you are. So you can't even do that. It's like, you just, listen, in order for your man that you fucking love and you're going to have children with and have a family with,

in order for them to approach you, you don't need to get approached by a bunch of motherfuckers that ain't shit. That's just the name of the game. And if nobody approaches you, you don't get it.

And guys have to approach a lot of women who ain't shit to meet the one. Of course! This is how the world goes around. Hell approaches you, you don't get it. And guys had to approach a lot of women who ain't shit to meet the one. Of course. This is how the world goes around. Hell yeah. We don't bitch about it. All these girls

I had to dick down for years before I found the love of my life. How about your struggle? Nobody talks about this man's struggle. You know how many girls I had to fuck

that I didn't love? Yeah. You know how many loveless dickens I done given, bro? How many loveless cock sucks he got? Wasted time.

Unsweet cock sucks? No one talks about the unsweet cock sucks. What a waste. 100%. Too many pumps, man. Too many pumps, bro. What a waste.

Y'all know how many pumps I wasted, bro? You know how many good boners I wasted? A man only gets about 7,000 good boners in his life. Yeah, I think so.

Why don't they talk about that? They only talk about ovaries. Yeah. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. We're using a lot of sperm.

We can use that sperm now. Now, sperm you keep making, but hard dick goes away. I'm saying the good sperm, though. My dick look like one of our trees, bro. Well, these are fake. Same. I'm just saying,

this is, listen, this is the name of the game. This is the name of the game It's the name of the game You ever wake up With a boner now And you're like Oh shit No

How about that No No You never It never happens once Hey hey hey No I don't On a Thursday

You wake up with a boner You're like oh sick If I wake up with a boner I'm like Who's raping me Somebody's sucking my dick In my sleep Or something like that.

What happened? It's like Jumanji. What year is it? Where am I? That's what I think. I think I'm dreaming. I woke up and I'm like, am I still? Am I still having a dream right now?

Whose dick is in my pants? No. Whose dick is this? Who put a dick right here? What the hell is happening? For sure. I don't know. Come on.

You don't even recognize your own dick? No. That's honestly scary, dude. sure. I don't know. Come on. You don't even recognize your own dick? No. That's crazy. That's honestly scary, dude. No. I don't know. Every time I talk to like, every time I talk to women, they don't seem that concerned about this.

Are guys annoying? Sure. Can guys be creepy? Sure. 100%. Especially if it's fucking late at night, you're walking alone. But like in a public place,

a guy coming to hit on you, most girls don't seem, matter of fact, most like hot girls complain that it doesn't happen enough. I hear that a lot from women. So ugly. Do you know what I'm saying?

All these girls are like, oh, it's so difficult. It's like, well, well, most beautiful women that you speak to would be like, guys never hit on me. Yeah. Y'all look too attainable is the problem. Hmm. Maybe that's why they're upset because they're looking at these guys hitting on me. Yeah. Y'all look too attainable is the problem. Maybe that's why they're upset because they're looking at these guys hitting on them like, why do you think you could get me? So it's an ego hit and they're blaming it

on harassment, but in reality they're upset that a guy that they thought they were too good for is hitting on them. Why do you think you could have me? Well, because you can't bench 125. Or squat, or whatever that was.

You know what I mean? I don't know. 125 is kind of heavy, right? Kind of. That's two 45s. You're like one. No, 135. 135.

Yeah. I got that one. I'll throw that shit up. I don't think you do. Nah, I got that one. I don't think you do. For one. He doesn't bench. Nah, I got that one. I'll throw that shit up. I don't think you do. Nah, I got that one. I don't think you do. For one. He doesn't bench.

Nah, you can do it. Nah, I could do that one. But you don't bench. You got long arms a problem. Yeah, long arms make that shit difficult. Also, being weak. Yeah, that's what makes that shit difficult. Nah, I did it twice.

I did it twice, 135. Really, you did? Twice in my life. Yeah, not now. There's no way I can do it. I believe you could throw it up. No, 135's not that bad. I would rep with 135. Yeah, but you don Yeah, not now. There's no way I can do it. I believe you could throw it up. No, 135 is not that bad. I would rep with 135.

Yeah, but you don't do it now. Like, that's like muscle that you have to continue working. No, but you keep that strength. You keep that, like... Oh, you do bench. Oh, okay. I thought you were only cardio. But, yeah, the most I ever did...

What's the most you ever benched? 215 is my guess. I think 225. No, you can do more than that. You can do more than that right now. You can do more than that5. No, you've done more than that. You can do more than that right now. You can do more than that. I would think you could do more than that. That's two plates each side.

How much is three plates? I didn't... I was struggling, but my friend was like... That's like... Spotting, but I didn't... Three plates each side? That's 315.

Yeah, that's like 315. Yeah, so then that was... That's crazy. That's very different than 215. That's way different than 215. I didn't fucking add up. That's a human body, bro. That's a whole human thing. That's an offensive lin crazy. That's very different than 2.10. That's way different than 2.10. That's a human body, bro. That's a whole human thing. That's an offensive lineman.

That's not a human body. That's not a human body. That's an offensive lineman. No, he cut out 100 pounds. That's a person. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's insane. Yeah.

What's wrong with you? I had a math. The math's wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's ego math. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't really do plates. I like free weights.

What do you do with the dumbbells? Dumbbells, right now, I'm up to, like, 70s. Yeah, but I don't really do plates. I like free weights. What do you do with the dumbbells? Dumbbells, right now I'm up to like 70s, but I've been, I used to be like 100s. Whoa! Yeah, that's wild. I mean, remember when we met Al, that man was doing push-ups with his dick out on IG all the time?

That's why I need to wear fucking tights, just to keep it. To control the dick. Not high, except to fly. We'll get you some tights. Anyway, y'all, listen, thank you guys so much for watching. We appreciate y'all. We will see you this week, Thursday.

Peace.