Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Suga Sean on being UFC Champ, his KillTony appearance, and upcoming fight with Chito Vera

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Yerrrrrr, we had to get the CHAMP on Flagrant to discuss how life has been since winning, if he wants to be an actor, what life is like as a father, his next fights and how he is going to beat Chito! ... 00:00 Kill Tony appearance 02:01 Feeling bad for knocking out Aljo 09:21 Being UFC Champ 13:59 Aspirations after UFC - acting? 14:47 Predictions, perennial nerve + Henry Cejudo 22:41 Women different now after being champ? 24:38 Suga can sing now 31:11 Suga Sean is a BIG DEAL 39:42 Selling out MSG + TD Garden is aight 47:00 Grammar ****s, appropriation + Middle East news 51:26 Lil Baby is Sean's favourite rapper 57:25 Wanting to be a Billionaire 1:01:10 Barely sparring, Knicks workout + AI danger 1:05:05 UFC rigging results for Suga + Paddy 1:09:02 Fatherhood + supporting your child's passion 1:15:50 Sean will KO Chito + most exhausted 1:19:51 Injuries, preparation + breath work 1:25:40 Tyson Fury won + Ngannou IQ is insane 1:27:34 Strickland v Izzy + Sean v Tank one day 1:31:47 UFC offers so much value v Boxing 1:33:59 Losses in UFC aren't fatal 1:38:26 Navigating UFC + Predictions UFC 296 1:41:23 UFO obsession + Bob Lazar 1:49:16 Visiting One World Trade Center

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up everybody welcome to flagrant and today we are joined by well he has tons of accomplishments But let's just start with the one he's most proud of undefeated no a amazing performance On quite possibly the greatest show on the internet kill tony We have sugar sean o'malley in the building. Oh Okay, cheers cheers cheers my brother. I forgot about that. Listen, you did Okay. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers, my brother. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen, you did not because I know how hyped you were about that. I was excited. We were in Phoenix. And when we were hanging in Phoenix, I remember you saying, bro, I really want to go on Kill Tom. Yeah. Yeah. I'm obsessed with it, bro.
Starting point is 00:00:37 I love it. It's incredible. It's such a great show. It really is. It is an incredible show. Shout out to the boys that are doing it. And yeah, just unbelievable. It's great for every aspect of YouTube because I'm watching it on shorts.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm watching it long form. I'm watching it in clips. It's a phenomenal show. And you did well on it. And I knew you were nervous about it. I was, bro. But you had some funny lines. You went for it a bit.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It was good. My main thing is I didn't want to be one of the guys that over talk. I've watched too many episodes where I'm like, just shut up. Let Tony cook. Just be there. Be there. So I didn't want to over-talk. What was the best roast on you?
Starting point is 00:01:13 The best roast on me, I only remember, I remember David Lucas said I look like a camel with one hump or something. I didn't understand that, but it was funny for some reason. It was funny, but it didn't make sense. One thing I wanted to say to David, but I was funny for some, it was funny but it didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:01:26 One thing I wanted to say to Dave, but I was too nervous and I just couldn't come out. Don't say that word. Yeah, it's okay. Don't say that word. Come on, you're not in Boston, bro. You can't say that. I won't say it. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Say the other one. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to say you look like you have burnt top ramen on your head. I'm glad you didn't say that one. Say the first one. Just say the N-word. what do you say in traffic when they cut you off you know what i mean nipples that was close i'm telling you that would have hit though the top ramen one you guys just had a
Starting point is 00:01:58 it's a had a been there moment yeah i guess yo why why'd you have to knock out our boy al jamaim that was rude that was fucked up, yo. That was rude. Honestly, I felt bad. Fuck with Aljamain. I do, too. I felt bad. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:02:09 I do feel bad-ish now. I think he's a good dude, but it just had to be done. Dude, that's interesting. Hold on. I do feel bad, genuinely. Does that happen? You build up this animosity for somebody because you're going to fight them, and then afterwards they turn out to be a good guy.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I never honestly had animosity with Aljamain. I always thought he be a good guy. I never honestly had animosity with Aljo. I always thought he was a good dude. I never really talked too much shit going into it. He was always kind of complimentary of you, too. I think he's a good dude. Cheeto, I don't like him. I'm excited to stop him. I can tell you guys do not like each other at all.
Starting point is 00:02:36 We got to go face-to-face tomorrow. No way. Yeah, we're going face-to-face tomorrow. I thought you guys weren't doing face-to-face. No, you weren't doing press conference. You said something. We're not doing press conference. Yeah, I thought we were going to do a press conference.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I didn't know when they were going to release it. I was coming to New York to do all this media, but I kept telling the UFC, I'm like, every media I do, it's like, when's your next fight? And we weren't going to announce it. I was like, we have to fucking announce it. We have to. I can't not do all this media all week
Starting point is 00:02:59 and not talk about this fight. And not be able to say it, yeah. So they, yeah, I didn't even know Dana was going to. I was sitting in Ariel's green room. Yeah. And I was looking through my Snapchat comments and they were like, is March serious?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I'm like, what? And I went and saw that Dana announced it. Chido didn't even know until he FaceTimed Ariel. He probably knew like I knew. That might be some wrestling. We know we're going to fight. That might be some wrestling.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Erica looks great, by the way. Thank you. Hey, let's keep talking about me. Sorry about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you look great too. That was a great text message you made up from you. Hey, let's keep talking about me. Sorry about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you look great, too. That was a great text message you made up from Cheeto, though. That wasn't made up.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Wait. He said Cheeto messaged me, and he was like... Yeah, read the text for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so weird. Yeah, let's see if it matches up. Yeah. He said, hey, bro, thank you for...
Starting point is 00:03:39 He spelled H-A-Y. Did he? Yeah. Why'd he say that? Hey, bro, thank you for choosing me for my next fight. Our last fight, I got so lucky, LOL. It's crazy. You were kicking my ass, LOL.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Damn. Yeah. That's crazy. Why would he text you that? I don't know. Yo, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do you think Cheeto's the best dressed in the UFC?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Stop. I'm being dead serious. No, Cheeto has fantastic style. We had this conversation last time. I don't know what you have with Cheeto. I don't know if you guys have like a concept. My man has great style. He looks good.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Can we pull up some images? Look at this. You look great too. It has nothing to do with me wanting to knock his ass out. I just genuinely don't look at him. I think it's fucked up what you do to Gotham City on a day-to-day basis. That is kind of fucked up. You really think he dresses nice, huh?
Starting point is 00:04:21 No bullshit. I think he has great style. For like what? I mean, not to be a kaleidoscope but cool try it out bitch okay let me act it out let me act it out you got top ramen on your head no i just think he has great style. I think he has great style. It's different.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's different than what you're doing. Who do you think has good style other than you? Who other than you has good style? Obviously, Conor. He looks good. He fucking dresses nice. I'm not into Conor's style. I'm not as much either.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I'm into Conor, but the style, I don't. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's so gay. That was okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just like him, but the style, I don't. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I'm so gay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just like him. I feel like I just like him as a man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:10 I like him for what's on the inside. I didn't know talking about fashion would get gayer, but we got it there. I like his accent. Not sure. I don't think, yeah, I just, I'm on a different level when it comes to the style, I think. I just don't really think anyone's that close. I see these winds on you. You're shining out here.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I'm shining. It was a little brighter than the last time I was you. You're shining out here. I'm shining. I had to get a new watch. How much is the watch? 180, 200 on a good day. Wow. He didn't like my other one so I had to switch it up.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But then you got another Richard. Yeah, I got another Richard. But he likes one more? Or still ugly? I don't like the Richard Mills. It's okay. That shit is fine. Don't love me.
Starting point is 00:05:42 That shit is fine. I don't like it. I like your personality. I appreciate that. I like the way you fight it I like your personality I appreciate that I like the way you fight I like the pink Rolex flames The pink Rolex is crazy Can I tell you a prediction that I had
Starting point is 00:05:55 About that fight After we did our fake sparring Yeah I think I even said it on the pod But I was like, you get this crazy extension when you throw straight punches. And like your whole body twists. You know how like sometimes people like they'll barely even move or they'll just extend arms. Yeah, like Cheeto.
Starting point is 00:06:19 Oh, is that how he throws? Yeah, he's slow. And I remember being in there with you, and I'm like taller. I'm like significantly taller than you. I'm like so much taller. I'm like huge. And I remember just being there, I'm like, wow. Like, distance-wise, without even moving
Starting point is 00:06:34 in, you could touch me whenever you wanted. And in that moment, I was like, Aljo better not keep this on the feet. He better not keep this on the feet. He better not keep this on the feet. He tried not to. Couldn't take it down.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, he did try not to. Two takedowns. Were you surprised about that? And was that like a big confidence booster? It was huge. It was huge. I look at him as the best grab. He was the hardest matchup in the band's division for me.
Starting point is 00:06:58 100%. And stuffed both his takedowns. Yeah. Yeah, so that was a huge confidence booster. I knew I was capable of it. But to go out there and do it in the moment when it matters, that's huge. Okay. I want to see that rematch.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Let me ask you this question. Really? How am I supposed to one-up that? He's not, like, popular. There's so many other guys that are, like, bigger fights. Miiverse Cheeto. Miiverse Cheeto is huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And then what else? Miiverse Corey Is a bigger fight Bro People are excited about that I mean just from a technical standpoint Mi versus Umar someday If he goes out there And gets a couple wins
Starting point is 00:07:30 Just Umar Nurmagomedov Versus Sean O'Malley That's Connor Habib Two Yo But he's gotta get some wins Cause I feel like
Starting point is 00:07:38 There's not as much interest He's probably going to get some wins Okay who else? If he can get the fights healthy Ilya Teporia Versus Alexander Volkanovski In February Yep If Ilya Teporia versus Alexander Volkanovsky in February. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:46 If Ilya goes out there and beats Volk, I would like to go up to 45 and fight Ilya. You want to come out, really? So I think that's a big fight. But you said you don't really want to fight Volk.
Starting point is 00:07:53 No, but he's saying he would want to go and fight Ilya. I'd fight Ilya if he wins. If he gets the job done. I think Volk's coming back a little too soon. Really?
Starting point is 00:07:59 From getting knocked out. Have you felt what Volk was talking about ever? Where you're like, oh yeah. What is that? I feel like, I don't feel it too much unless I can't train. Like dealing with injuries,
Starting point is 00:08:13 like if I can go out there and train really hard and grapple and just do it, like get that release of that energy out, I feel fine. But if I was dealing with like an injury and you can't train really hard, I feel like that's when I feel it. What is the feeling? I think it's just not preparing for a fight you just kind of feel like you don't have a purpose yeah but i think that's just i mean i and i've
Starting point is 00:08:35 always bring it back to meditation but i do think there's like something in that bro how was the other thing i was surprised about when we were over when hanging with you guys was I think that you give the illusion that you're hanging, you're smoking, you're beating up the dummy in the backyard, whatever, and then I don't want to give away too much of how the sausage is made, but you going through your
Starting point is 00:08:57 regimen, how strict it is, the things you're doing for mental health, the things you're doing for physical health, it was no accident. Yeah, no, was yeah it's no accident yeah no i think it's a good message to spread and tell people about but it's not sexy like people aren't if it was just that people don't follow that too much yeah so i think uh i like spreading it out a little bit telling people about it there's a good when there's a platform to put it on okay champ champ shit champ Drugs and bitches.
Starting point is 00:09:28 More meditating. Meditating. No, I'm kidding. Champ shit, the feeling, sensation. Like, walking around different the next week. Is it like... Week? Month? Like, tell me how long it lasts, the high.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Eventually, I'm sure you start to get into, okay, I have to prepare for this next fight. How long is the high? What is the high like? No, to be honest, I'm sure you start to get into, okay, I have to prepare for this next fight. How long is the high? What is the high like? No, to be honest, I felt like I was kind of champ before the belt. I really, truly believe. I was the biggest name in the division. My fight versus Peter Jan was huge.
Starting point is 00:09:56 My fight versus Pedro Munoz was big. Didn't play out. It was a big buildup. The expectation for you has always been. Yeah. I felt like I've been champ. So when I won the belt in that spectacular fashion,
Starting point is 00:10:07 though, it was nice, but as far as like, how did I feel? I just feel like a fucking normal dude. I want to feel cool as fuck and feel like I'm champ,
Starting point is 00:10:16 but I just don't. Not yet. No, nothing. Still feel just like a, I still feel like I have so much that I need to do. I have to defend the belt. I think you need to defend the belt for your champ. You know what I mean?, I still feel like I have so much that I need to do. I have to defend the belt. I think you need to defend the belt for your champ.
Starting point is 00:10:27 You know what I mean? So I still feel like I have so much to do and so much I want to accomplish that I don't feel like, which is a good thing, I think. Because if I felt like I'm like, I did it. I fucking did it. And I didn't have that drive anymore. That's dangerous. You'll check out. That's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:10:40 So I haven't checked out yet. I feel like I'll know when I check out. What about Tim? Was there like a moment with you and him? I got to bring his ass down all the time. Why, why, why, why, why? He's the coach of the year, walking around. He's got bubble temp.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That's why we told him he's not invited. He was invited, but then we had to un-invite him. Yeah, he needs fucking reality check. Go work in a coffee shop. For real. He was great in the Flower Moon thing. Oh, yeah, Killers of the Flower Moon. Killers of the Flower Moon.
Starting point is 00:11:04 He was fantastic in that. He killed it. New Martin Scorsese movie. Killers of the Flower Moon. Yeah, he's fantastic in that. He kills it. New Martin Scorsese movie. He's fucking fantastic. You didn't know your boy was in that movie? Yeah, he was in Breaking Bad. He's been in Friday Night Lights. He's been in all these things.
Starting point is 00:11:13 You didn't know retarded Matt Damon is your coach? I could see I get retarded. No, Tim's been doing good. He's opening up a second gym, a little coffee shop. His gym's right here and then right down the hall there's another space. He's opening up a second gym, a little coffee shop. His gym's right here, and then right down the hall is another space. He's opening up a little gym, a little coffee shop. He wanted to come, but his second gym just opened, so it was super hectic.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Shout out, Tim. Tim's a fucking man. Yeah, we got to get him on. We got to get him on. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. So you're not on this super crazy high from it. Tell me that's not Tim. Shout out, Tim.
Starting point is 00:11:43 That's like a better looking version of Tim. Yeah. Eyes a little closer. That's like a better looking version of Tim. Yeah. Eyes a little closer. That's what Tim wishes he looked like. Yeah. Who is that? Jesse Plemons. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Yeah. AKA Tim. Yeah. Tour announcement. Thank you guys so much for selling out Madison Square Garden on May 4th. We added a second show. I don't know if there's tickets still available by the time this comes out. I'm recording this before we went to Australia. So if there are, that show is May
Starting point is 00:12:11 3rd. Go get those right now. Thank you guys so much. This has been absolutely unbelievable. This is literally my dream in comedy, is what I've been driving towards my entire professional life. So I'm so fucking excited. And trust me, you do not wanna miss out on the experience that is gonna be these shows when the hometown kid hits the garden. It's gonna be amazing. Also, we're in Australia right now. So Melbourne, I'll be seeing you soon. Sydney, I'll be seeing you soon.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And Brisbane, I'll be seeing you soon. Thank you guys so much, Australia, for selling out these shows. It's been unbelievable. And I think it's time. It might be time to really kick off the tour in America. Let's just say that.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Might be time to really kick off the tour in America. We might have to do some things. There's some cities that need to be seen. TheAndrewShultz.com. More news soon. Peace. Breathing life into America. We might have to do some things. There's some cities that need to be seen. TheAndrewShultz.com. More news soon. Peace. Breathing life into America. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Tour dates, guys. We have added another show in Portland. We sold out December 2nd and 1st. We added another show on December 2nd. December 8th,
Starting point is 00:13:18 I'm in New Orleans. December 17th, I'm in Glasgow. 18th, London. We added a second show. 19th, Manchester. Hurry up and buy those tickets. Those will sell out. Also, January 6th, 8th, and 9th, I am in Glasgow. 18th, London. We added a second show. 19th, Manchester. Hurry up and buy those tickets. Those will sell out.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Also, January 6th, 8th, and 9th, I am in Norway. Amsterdam. We sold out the first show. We're adding a second. And Eindhoven in the Netherlands. Guys, Amsterdam. Thank you guys so much. That show sold out in like 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I'm damn near putting up Schultz numbers. Much smaller venue, but same time frame. Also, January 18th through the 20th, I'm going to be in D.C. at the Improv. It's one of the best comedy clubs in the country, so buy your tickets for that. And last but not least, Salt Lake City, Utah, January 26th and 27th, Wise Guys, another historic club. Can't wait to be there. Get your tickets for those shows and more at Alkoshting.com. Okay, so you just laid out the next few fights.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, Cheetos obviously next in March. Where at? i don't know what about what about business what about it like is there business that you want to do is there anything like you got the belt you've achieved it you've reached the mountaintop yeah what comes next um you would you like you want to do movies like i got offered a movie scene wait wait i can't say we signed the nba can we allude to it? Definitely not Get the Pakistani out of here Is it Hollywood or adult? Hollywood
Starting point is 00:14:31 Hell yeah I look over at everyone Just ask, it's just a general question I'm not ready for movies yet Like I said, I got a lot to do And Beating up Cheetos next. But as far as business-wise goes...
Starting point is 00:14:47 How does the Cheeto fight go? What do you think? What do you think? Let me think. You think while I talk. Okay, you go. You go. I'm going to do the thinking.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I think stylistically, and I think this about anybody. If I'm faster than you, that's why the Corey fight is so interesting. I don't know if it's necessarily faster. I think it's pretty equal, but I feel like if I'm faster than someone, I'm going to beat him. I think I'm just going to be too fast for Cheeto. He's tough. He's very durable. Cardio's great.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Cardio's good. I'm not taking anything away from a very, very tough fight. Does he? Great dresser. Yeah. A lot of things. Yeah. Is there a mental component going into a fight with someone that technically beat you, even though there was obviously a body malfunction?
Starting point is 00:15:38 Maybe if he would have beat me in a three-round fight and went to decision and he just beat my ass, that would be different. That would probably be harder like for Cheeto to fight Corey again like remember when Corey fucked Cheeto up like for five rounds bad remember that
Starting point is 00:15:50 you guys all remember that you guys all remember that so I'm saying like if that would've happened like it would've been that would've been like fuck like going into a rematch would be tough
Starting point is 00:15:58 but it's just like the fact that I watched the fight back I was smoking him kicked that fucking nerve rolled my bitch ass ankle like four times and I was still piecing Kicked that fucking nerve. Rolled my bitch ass ankle like four times. And I was still piecing him up with one foot.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah. I blitzed him, hit him with a seven piece. And I stepped back and my ankle goes whoop, whoop. Oh, wow. Yeah, my ankles gave out and fucking. But yeah, so no, I don't feel like going into this fight mentally. I'm having to battle any demons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah. Yeah, the mental component seems, I assumed it would be tough, but I feel like technically you'll be able to edge him out. I rewatched that fight today. Did you? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And seeing you even battling through the nerve going. You could tell when it happened. Bro. Yeah, what happens then? Are you like, I'm fucked? Or you were like, I'm like. You know what I think?
Starting point is 00:16:40 Because it's happened to people in the past, but the nerve comes back. My ankle wrap was too tight. And I remember having my coach in the back telling him before we walked out, hey, will you try to loosen this up? This shit was so fucking tight. So when he kicked that nerve, I just don't think it was able to come back.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I didn't know it comes back in the same day. Yeah, yeah. It happened to Jimmy Crute, I think his name was. It happened to Izzy, right? A little bit, but his foot, my shit was straight. You had just no control over it. There's a few fighters.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Michael Chandler and Bellator. Happened to Henry Cejudo against Demetrius Johnson in the first round. His came back. I think if I could have made it to the end of the round, I think it might have came back, but my ankle wraps were so fucking tight that I think it just shut it off. So who don't want some smoke, huh?
Starting point is 00:17:27 He says he does, bro. But what? Too little, you think? Well, not just too little. I don't really think that has anything to do with it. I just love telling him. That he's short. That he's short.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Because I know that he's got little man syndrome, which is real. And I just know it fires him up, bro, every time. And he watches everything I do. He wants to be me so bad. So he's watching right now. Yeah, he wants to be six foot. He was chirping him without even knowing it on accident.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I brought up the bell. I was like, dude, they should give you guys like a travel size one. You can walk around. And he just immediately goes, yeah, the Cejudo bell. I was like, yeah, he's not even here, bro. Come on. And Aljo took Henry down four times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And Aljo took me down how many? Zero. Out of? Out of two. Did he go for two shots? He did. So I told Henry, if you want to work on some wrestling, I'll help you. I told him that.
Starting point is 00:18:13 This thing is crazy. But yeah, Henry acts like he wants it. But I think they're going to do Henry versus Murab. I think they'll do that. And then kind of depending on how things play out. Do you want Murab because he took the jacket? He didn't take the jacket. I gave it to him.
Starting point is 00:18:24 I thought he was the jacket? He didn't take the jacket. I gave it to him. I thought he was my jacket guy. It looked like he ran your jacket, bro. I'll be honest. No, you watched the clip. Someone pulled up. I handed it to him. Dude, it looks like he pulled up on you.
Starting point is 00:18:35 He didn't hate you out of just fear. I thought you were just afraid of him. You know how tall he is? The first time I didn't feel anything when you made fun of short guys, I'm starting to think it's a thing toward me a little bit. No, I got short coaches. No, watch the video. I handed it to him.
Starting point is 00:18:52 You saw he was in a jacket or something like that. No, I thought he was going to hold it for me. Until I got needed again. Yeah, but what about his nose, though? What's going on? He looks like a jacket guy. I'm dead ass. Watch.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I handed it to him thinking I was a fucking jacket guy. Oh, fuck. Okay, let's see it. He's already on the thing. I got to find it real quick. But dude, yeah, when you're in the octagon, I've only ever fought in the octagon except for this time. So I was in there like, you know, your senses are tingling.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah. Fucking dick's getting hard. Nice. A little bit. Nice. What are you packing down there? I'm packing, depends. Like a clicker
Starting point is 00:19:33 like a remote like apple tv or one of them one of the bigger clickers not like the small not like the roku one that'll like a clicker can you see i already took it off but yeah look look i handed it to you you got scared bro you got scared dude you said yo take the thriller jacket run no you want to know what really happened is uh tim was right behind me walking into the so you thought marab was tim i was locked into and i mean i was looking at aljo's soul yeah i was looking at aljo i thought tim was still behind me so i take my jacket and i hand it to him because i'm locked in with Aljo. Yeah. And it was Merab. And has Tim felt insulted that you confused them at all? I haven't told him.
Starting point is 00:20:12 He probably wouldn't like it. He's going to find out. He wouldn't like it. Yeah, he's not going to like that. But you know what? About Merab, that dude's funny. I think he's genuinely a good dude. I think he's genuinely retarded.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And you have experience, too. That's the other thing. When you say that, that's true. I don't think he's genuinely retarded. And you have experience, too. That's the other thing. When you say that, that's true. I think he just has an accent. That's tough to tell. I get that. I went to the PI a couple weeks after because I had to do something at the UFC.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It was after I beat Aljo. Aljo was on vacation. And Murad was just sitting at the cafeteria at the PI by himself. He lives there, bro. What was he. And Murad was just sitting at the cafeteria at the PI by himself. He lives there, bro. What was he drinking? He literally was just sitting there. There was no food. He just hangs out there.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Okay. So. What is that indicative of? It feels like you're kind of hinting at something. I don't know. Yeah, I guess I don't really know what I was going with that. He's just sitting there, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:04 I have another technical UFC question is there a mental component going into this fight knowing you kind of got fucked up by a stand up comedian well I mean
Starting point is 00:21:13 I don't want to bring it up because you guys are both here I mean we were very generous with the footage that we put out right I appreciate that you did land that
Starting point is 00:21:21 little teep kick but besides that but you actually ate it that was impressive. I did, but I feel like you were going maybe like 10% on that. Yeah. You know what I mean? I would say I landed one leg kick that would mess up your perennial nerve.
Starting point is 00:21:34 You know where it's at. Exactly. You know what's going to suck? What's that? Is if he hits it again. My shit goes numb again. Then I'll accept that first loss. What are you going to do to stop that?
Starting point is 00:21:44 Well, it hasn't happened again Do you do anything differently? Or you don't think it's going to happen again? It was so lucky I feel like you're getting mentally sharper Where you should be getting more CT'd up No, no, I guess You're sharper than the last time you were on
Starting point is 00:22:03 It's reverse I think you're You should be getting a little bit more punchy. Dumber. I'm definitely getting dumber in my choices I make. Like what? What happened? Talk now. Talk now.
Starting point is 00:22:15 You brought it up. Let's go. You brought it up. What have you been doing on the farm? What have you been doing on the farm? Tell us exactly what happened. What you've been doing on the farm? Be honest, dude.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You got dirt bikes yet? Are the hoes different now? Is the blue checks, are they coming through? Blue check camp? I've had the blue check for years. No, not you. The blue check? The blue check DMs.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Oh, the females. All right, fine. You got a little seat. Yeah, he is a little. Are the females different now that you got that belt? They want to touch the belt, don't they that what he got that willy-jay this He'd be surprised bro, I'm like my demographic is just all dudes Okay, I'm surprised
Starting point is 00:23:05 Very surprised, but no I'm saying there's gotta be No, no, you would be surprised. Okay, I'm surprised. It's all dudes. I'm very surprised. But no, I'm saying that there's got to be somebody throwing. You're walking around Phoenix. I don't really walk around Phoenix. No one walks around Phoenix. That shit too hot. It is a little hot. You're buying jewelry.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You're getting a new watch. I've been buying jewelry. Been buying watches. And the hoes haven't changed at all. He got in trouble last time. You got in trouble. He got in trouble last time. Something is up. It changed, didn't it? all he got in trouble last time you got in trouble you got in trouble last time better not put out the bird call like you did last time that's what happened
Starting point is 00:23:31 i think your teeth got whiter did you get invisalign or something i've had invisalign i've been done with that for a while i thought so dude you got glowed up you got the belt and now you got no hose no what the What the fuck is going on, bro? This is crazy. You had the best deal that's ever been made in the history of marriage. I just, yeah. What's going on, sugar? Sugar, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Ask Danny. Should we bring her on here and ask her what the deal is? You done knocked out everybody. You got the belt. You're on top of the world. She prefers I don't talk about it anymore. Respect. That's one of the greatest answers I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Respect. Because that's a great way of saying I am not getting no pussy. While leaving the illusion that it might be out there. I'm going to use that. That's fine. Or I've been getting too much pussy. That's how they do it. I'm going to use it. I actually think he Or I've been getting too much pussy. That's how they do it. I actually think he might be getting pussy because
Starting point is 00:24:28 that ankle's been twitching a lot. I think that's his tail. I think that's his tail. Okay, so we're not going to talk about it anymore. Do you want to know why I think he's still maybe out here? Apparently, I heard, allegedly, Sugar Sean is a singer. Oh, that is facts.
Starting point is 00:24:43 We need that. What do you mean? We need that. He's been taking lessons. You didn't know that? He's been doing singing lessons, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on. What type of singing? Just singing.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Just like some good singing. Does my voice sound smoother at all? I've noticed it. Has it? No. I'm telling you, maybe that's why I thought there was no CTE because the voice is smoother. Three lessons of 30 minutes each. Give me something.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I don't got nothing yet. No, come on, bro. I'm just still in the early stages, but I did take up singing lessons, and it's fucking embarrassing, bro. It's so embarrassing. What do you start with? What song? Well, right now, we're working on What a Wonderful World. Wow.
Starting point is 00:25:21 That's a good one. I'm still trying to find my voice. I'm a tenor. Sk'm still trying to find my voice. I'm a tenor. Skies of blue. Something, something. I still don't know the lyrics, but we're slowly getting there. 30 minutes each goes like that.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I'm nervous. You still don't know no lyrics? Well, I don't. Sometimes we're working on that. Let's give him a song. Let's give him a song here. What's something we could sing? How about Annie?
Starting point is 00:25:41 We just need to make that shit rap. Or Ice Spice, bro. You got the Ice Spice. Oh, Ice Spice, bro. You got the Ice Spice. Oh, Ice Spice. You thought it was pretty good. You got that.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Ice Spice is hot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, yo, chill, chill, bro. Chill out. Yo, chill out. I forget. Chill out. That's what I'm saying about my choices.
Starting point is 00:25:59 On this podcast, all you got to say, with all due respect. If you say with all due respect, you could do whatever you want, but you didn't say with all due respect. So can I restart? Yeah. With all due respect, I would love to get up in that. With all due respect. If you say with all due respect, you could do whatever you want, but you didn't say with all due respect. So can I restart? Yeah. With all due respect, I would love to get up in that. With all due respect. With all due respect, Ice, you already know this is with all due respect, he wants to get up in your ass with all due respect.
Starting point is 00:26:15 With all due respect. And with all due respect, I think it's an understandable statement. Yeah. Did you see her fit for Halloween? I watched those clips like 40 times. The boopy one, belly booper. It was serious. It was a great Halloween.
Starting point is 00:26:30 We are aware. It was a great Halloween. I took my boys out for Halloween. Oh, yeah? What did y'all do? Wait, the ones we met? Yep. I like those guys.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Our retarded friends. I like those guys. Nah, the gamer dudes. Yeah. They were great. I take them out to the club. They were great. I stayed sober.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Didn't drink. Refreshing. I didn't them out to the club. They were great. I stayed sober. Didn't drink. Rephrase that. I didn't drink. What did you do? I didn't drink. But what happened? No, he's saying he didn't drink. If there was any drugs.
Starting point is 00:26:52 No, literally. If there was any drugs, it happened. I'll tell you for real, bro. If it did happen, what happened? He didn't drink. Uh-oh, glass is going on. That means coke. No.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Okay. No, I stayed sober. Okay. I took the boys out on Halloween. Lots of girls out. Mm-hmm. And I stayed sober I took the boys out on Halloween. Lots of girls out. Mm-hmm. And I stayed sober and took the boys out. What was your costume?
Starting point is 00:27:10 I look like a fucking Fruit Loop of a cop. Of a cop? Yeah, it was last minute. Went to the Halloween store, the one they put up. Right. And I was like, oh, this looks fire. Like, bitches will like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And I put it on. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. Wow. I looked like a Fruit Loop. Reno 911 vibes was like what the fuck yeah i looked like a fruit lube reno 911 vibes yeah i didn't i still rocked it i got hit on a lot though did you yeah yeah was it was it the fellas no chicks were liking it though have guys ever tried to tried you oh yeah i'm fucking in the gay community and then what's the best pick up line he's a twink
Starting point is 00:27:40 yo you got twink about it's called twink twink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a skinny gig. I went to San Francisco once, and I looked up, and well, I was with Tim, too. And we got looked up and down. Yeah, that's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, that's like your dream, though. Like, Tim, dude? Like a fucking thick red?
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Thick redhead? Yeah. I did lose Tim for a couple hours. I don't know where he went when we were in San Fran. Whoa. Yeah. Maybe. He said I have a phone call dude is Tim like a closet
Starting point is 00:28:10 queer ginge I mean I wouldn't be closeted if I said yes no because when we were doing jujitsu he kept putting me in this choke where he was behind me yeah rear naked he called it yeah he called it rear naked and I was like yo rear naked. Yeah, he was called a rear naked. And I was like, yo, why don't we do some of the leg locks?
Starting point is 00:28:26 He's like, no, this is the beginner. He kept saying that. Didn't he let you put him in a triangle, too? That was weird. That was sus. He did. And he didn't tap. He didn't fucking tap.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I wonder why. He likes that shit. He might. He fucking likes it. But why'd you put your fingers in his throat, though? Why'd you have to choke him out that way? He choked him out internal. I've never seen that one.
Starting point is 00:28:46 That was crazy. I gave him Heimlich. Yeah, but shout out to Tim, bro. Fucking love you, dude. The internal choke is crazy. Is that a legal move? Can you put your fist in someone's mouth? Nope. No eye gouges, no fish hooks, no fingers in the butt.
Starting point is 00:29:01 No way. There's some illegal moves I think they could change. For example? Like toe on the gate or toe on the fence or whatever. You should be able to do that. Wait, what? Oh, holding the fence? Yeah. No, you can't hold it. Why not?
Starting point is 00:29:11 I think that's kind of cool. Too much lever. That would be kind of fire, actually. Yeah. I like that. They say you're not allowed to do that. Yeah, you're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to kick while someone's down.
Starting point is 00:29:18 That's bullshit. Put that back in there. Punch someone's head off, dude. That would suck. That would actually be kind of scary if you could get a soccer kick in the head while you're on the ground. But you can in...
Starting point is 00:29:28 In Pride. In Pride. What is it called? One. One. That's right. I mean, it's gnarly to see a dude on his hands
Starting point is 00:29:34 and he's just getting punted in the fucking face. Yeah, that's hard to watch. It's crazy. The hammer fist is enough. Yeah. I wouldn't mind head kicking Cheeto
Starting point is 00:29:42 while he's on the ground trying to get up. Just fucking soccer kicking him. You really don't like Cheeto. What's on the ground there trying to get up. Just fucking sock him. You really don't like Cheeto? What did he say that made you really not like him? I think it's his style. It's how he dresses. Can we see some images of this guy?
Starting point is 00:29:53 I don't. I feel like that was targeted. Are there any gays in UFC? Why you got your hand like that? Why you asking that question, bro? You know, man, come on. We vibing right here. You see that?
Starting point is 00:30:05 Yo, we vibing. I was about to fight him. Wait, you think there's gay fighters? I don't know. Oh, no, there is. One guy did come out recently. Who? Josh Molina.
Starting point is 00:30:13 No, Jeff. That was your perfect opportunity to be like, Cheeto Vera. No. No, is it? Yeah, show me like a style. Tell me you don't think he's one of the most best you're fucking kidding me no you're hating on it
Starting point is 00:30:27 that's a solid fit you're hating on it no no no Cheeto is Cheeto is top of the top top of the top that one's decent
Starting point is 00:30:33 if anything now you're liking it because it's got some color show more no it was decent if anything oh the sneakers that's good
Starting point is 00:30:40 I'm telling you I'm telling you that's good that's good that dude looks like a fucking his kids play soccer and he's one of the dads that are hanging out on the field.
Starting point is 00:30:47 What's wrong with that? That's actually probably extremely accurate. What's wrong with being a dad? What's wrong with being a dad? I'm just saying, you're not going to be looking fly. That's your father. I'm just saying. We're talking about style.
Starting point is 00:30:56 You dress like a grown man with a little style. You are entering the age of being an old dad. You want how you dress as an old dad to be cool. Yeah, coming from me, you're doing a lot. You're doing a lot. Doing a lot. This is a lot. This is a lot.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I had GQ today. I know. That is kind of fire. Oh. You know what I mean? That's a big show. I did live with Mark and Kelly this morning. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And it was live. And it was live. There was an audience. Oh, really? How was that? Unlike this. Have we got an audience? Come on, we got Imran. It was cool. It was live. And it was live. There was an audience. Oh, really? How was that? Unlike this. Have we got an audience? Come on, we got Imran.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It was cool. It was good. But yeah, I do some big shit. I'm a fucking big deal. You got to dress like a big deal when you're a big fucking deal. Dude, I support it. What did you think of Kelly's husband? Mark.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Yeah. Mark. Yeah, Kelly was hot. What about Mark? I wanted to ask about Kelly, though. My bad. Mark was a cool dude. He, Kelly was hot. I wanted to ask about Kelly, though. Mark was a cool dude. He was a big fan. And what about Kelly?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Beautiful girl. She looked cute. Gave her a big hug. You ripped him? You ripped him? Did you feel your last name? Yeah, the chemistry in the hug. Was there a lot in the hug? Do you think they're swinging? I like Mark. He's a good dude. You like Mark?
Starting point is 00:32:06 He's a good dude. Really? Yeah. You know, he's a big fan. What's the gayest shit you would do without being gay? Rub another man's feet, maybe? Would you give foot massage to Tim? No. If you lost a bet? Well, I wouldn't make that bet. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:22 What about this? They called me gay for this like a week ago. My boy's feet were kind of cold and he was sitting on the couch with me and he put them underneath my thigh to warm them up. Tell me that's not the gayest shit. No, no. He was sneaking under the thigh for like five minutes. But it's your boy and his feet are mad cold because he was chilling outside.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Tim's feet are cold. I'd get him some socks. That's kind of gayer. You put them on? That's not. I don't know if that's gay or not. I love that you tried. You're going to go fetch him laundry?
Starting point is 00:32:46 Warm in your man's feet? You're going to go fetch your boy laundry? Warm in your man's feet? Are you putting him on? Is he injured? No. Okay. I wouldn't put his feet on or his socks on.
Starting point is 00:32:55 No, just get him some socks. If he's like, yo, dude, I fucking took too big of a dab. I can't get up. We got some socks. I'll grab some socks. Yeah. But what if he was just sneaking them under your thigh? Like this.
Starting point is 00:33:03 He's just sneaking them under slowly, and you keep moving over. He keeps sneaking them under slowly, and then eventually you sit on them like a mother bird. Yeah. I don't think that's gay, bro. That's being friendly. You moved away, and he did it again. Son, he's nesting his toes. Your friend's gay.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah. Okay, so it's not gay for me. Thank you. Appreciate that. It's half. It's half gay. It's half. If you're meeting him in the middle, it's half.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Come on. How many times did he try until you finally did it? You're more like the receiver when you think about it. This is a great question. If it was less than three, son, he went from the middle of the couch to the end of the couch. It was exactly thrice. He tried twice, and then he got it under the third time.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I just accepted it. I said, hey, is your feet cold? He said, yeah, they're pretty chilly. Do you think he's cute? I think he's exactly cute. I think he's cute. He's cute. Yeah, just accepted it. I said, hey, are your feet cold? He said, yeah, they're pretty chilly. Do you think he's cute? I think he's exactly cute. I think he's cute. He's cute. Yeah, he's cute. His feet are kind of fucked up. He's a soccer guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:53 But he's cute, though. And I would warm him up. I don't think that's that gay, though. It's not that gay, but it's definitely gay. But grappling in your underwear, I feel like it's gayer. Right? Yo, that was a good point. That was a good point. I would never do that
Starting point is 00:34:07 with my boys, personally. I took a jiu-jitsu class and one class and I'm done. Can't do it. It's too much. Wait, why?
Starting point is 00:34:14 It was the intimacy? Yeah, too much hugging. Do you have a thing with touching? You hug everybody before you say hello and then you leave. I think you're just
Starting point is 00:34:20 baiting us. If two alphas are going out it seems we can kill each other. I think it's pretty fucking straight. Well, I think killing has to be part of the equation. If two alphas are going out It seems we can kill each other I think it's pretty fucking straight Well I think killing Has to be part of the equation If they live That's pretty gay
Starting point is 00:34:28 You can kill them Then you decide not to Because you're that fucking alpha I'll do it again Gay When you're practicing It's just like That is kind of gay
Starting point is 00:34:36 I need it It's like catch and release With the fish That's fucked up You're catch and releasing That's fucked up That's what jujitsu is Is catch and release
Starting point is 00:34:42 Catch and releasing is fucked up Especially when you're practicing You're gonna put a hole In a fucking fish's mouth For no reason That's crazy Yeah that's fucked up. That's what jujitsu is, is catch and release. Catch and release is fucked up. Especially when you're fast. You're going to put a hole in a fucking fish's mouth? Yeah. For no reason. That's crazy. Yeah, that's fucked up. I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't really like fishing for that reason. I don't like when people group that with hunting. People will be like hunting and fishing. Yeah. One of them is like going out and getting something. The other thing is just like tricking them. I know my mom used to be like, oh, it's fine. We're just letting them go.
Starting point is 00:34:58 No, I don't like that. I'm never like that. I'm never like that. That's better than killing them. Or just don't do it. You're just going to put it back in the lake with a hole in his mouth? Or just eat him. Eat him.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Dude, fish do heal. How long? Fish probably heal. I don't know. How long does it take for a fish to heal? Two fish heal? It probably gets killed. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Probably swims sideways. Yeah. They draft a little bit. It's like Michael Phelps. Yeah. That's true. Why? Did that happen with Phelps?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah. His chin started to protrude a little and then slowed him down. I thought that that created more like water dynamics. What is it? Aerodynamic for aqua dynamics? Aqua dynamics, yeah, yeah. Hydrodynamic. Is that why you wear the school cap or the water caps?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yeah, exactly. Imagine me trying to swim. Bro, I love this hair. It's great. Yo, fuck it. Pull it. No way. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:35:41 That's some real shit. I love it. I like the fro. Dani did it. She does my hair, makes sure I look good because I do big shows like live with Mark and Kelly. I did that this morning. No, it's not. That's some real shit. I love it. I like the fro. Dani did it. She does my hair, makes sure I look good because I do big shows like live with Mark and Kelly. I did that this morning. Damn, bro. Damn, bro.
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Starting point is 00:39:56 bad before I fought. The dude, Joel, is some high up guy, was begging me to fight there. Loves the Sugar Show. I had my fight look booked in boston already but i couldn't tell him that so i was like yeah we'll see november's coming around yeah but yeah no uh msg that's gonna be crazy do you have a dream place to fight like dream venue i don't for me i don't really care dude boston was cool i'm glad i experienced that
Starting point is 00:40:20 because even before then i'm like i don't really care where to fight boston was really special what do they call that arena over there? Sugar. Sugar. They renamed it. Yeah, it was really cool. You didn't see that? That's fucking great. They just wanted to think of the whitest thing they could think of. Brown sugar. No, they would never.
Starting point is 00:40:37 They would not. Damn right. TD Garden. It's called the Garden as well. TD Garden. Interesting's called the... Oh, it's called the Garden as well. TD Garden. Interesting. Oh, yeah. That's crazy, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, yeah. Okay, so... Have you fought in Abu Dhabi? I did, last October. Oh, dude, how dope was Abu Dhabi? It was crazy. I was there for three weeks before the fight to acclimate, and so I didn't really get to do too much
Starting point is 00:41:00 because I was finishing up fight camp, cutting weight, doing all that, and then went to Dubai for a day and then I came back. Why did you all kind of laugh? You laughed in nefarious ways as if something really crazy happened in Dubai.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I almost feel like something wild must have happened. I bet you Tim did something. Tim is a Christian. Or Jehovah's. Is he really? I don't know. Jehovah's are Christians. No, Tim's a Christian. Oh, true. Or Jehovah's, sorry. Wait, is he really? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. But like one of your boys... Jehovah's are Christians?
Starting point is 00:41:28 No, they're not. They're Jehovah's. But they're part of the umbrella of Christianity. No. Well, they're not Jews or Muslims. You can be Christian and then you can be another religion under it? Of course. That's not how it works. Let me explain this.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Let me explain this. He's kind of got a point with this, I think. You can't be this religion and then you're under this religion. Of course. What if you're Lutheran? Is that not a Christian? They all believe in Jesus. It's like, you know, you're the military, but you can still be in the Navy or the Army or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:53 But it's all in the military. They got your nerve. Keep fighting. I got baptized, boys. Yeah, now we're going. I understand. Isaiah? He's back.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Christian. You're a Christian. Yeah. But you don't see. No, I genuinely don't understand how that works. We know. We know. So what are you?
Starting point is 00:42:09 I am, technically speaking. No, truly speaking. What do I actually believe? Yeah. I'm Pakistani. That's not a religion. I'm a pilot. I am pilot.
Starting point is 00:42:24 That's not a religion. Do you believe in Paka pilot. I am pilot. Do you believe in Paka Jesus? I am pilot. Do I believe in what? Paka Jesus? What's his name? What do you call him? Who Paka Jesus?
Starting point is 00:42:34 What do you call your Jesus? I want a Paka Jesus. I believe in Paka Jesus. I believe 100% in Paka Jesus. We trust. Who do I believe in the most? I probably believe in
Starting point is 00:42:44 more Christian stuff than any other religion. You can see one or the other. I don't think you can really pick. I believe in some of this, but also the Muslims are kind of right. I think it's one or the other. Well, they do that. Do they? Yeah, they say Jesus was a prophet.
Starting point is 00:42:56 They believe in all this shit. But that's like multiverse stuff. They have him in their multiverse. There's like hybrid stuff. Because the Jews started it. The Christians were like, yo, you're being a little bit too much about it. There's like hybrid stuff. The Jews started it. The Christians were like, yo, you're being a little bit too much about it. Let's be a little chill. And then the Muslims
Starting point is 00:43:10 were like, nah, let's be serious again. I think it had the Abrahamic... But they all believe in the Jewish shit. Christians just believe in the Jewish shit and their shit. And then Muslims believe in the Christian shit and the Jewish shit. Wow. I think it's crazy to think one way's right, but I also think it's crazy to think nothing's out there.
Starting point is 00:43:25 She's got to be right in the middle. I'm like, I don't know. Didn't you just tell me I couldn't do that? Yeah, that was, you really, I don't know if you know what you did. Two sentences ago, you were like, you can't pick and choose. No, I'm saying you can't be like, I'm this religion and this religion. I'm no religion. I don't know any of them. You're not religious at all. No.
Starting point is 00:43:41 But you believe in God generally. I think God is everything. The universe. No, I do. I think there's something to it, but I think all the religious stuff is fucking crazy. The more successful you've gotten, the more of a believer or the less? Believer in what? Just like that there's something out there?
Starting point is 00:43:57 Something higher power. I feel like there's something guiding my life for sure. Has to, right? And has that gotten stronger or same? Stronger. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But I also like, that's just crazy when people- First of gotten stronger or same? Stronger. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. But I also like, that's just crazy when people- First of all, that's a good, healthy reaction. Yeah. Because I think the people that go,
Starting point is 00:44:11 the more successful they get and they're like, there's definitely no religion, that's like a screaming narcissism. They're like, this is only because I'm great. Oh, I'm God. I'm God.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Exactly. And the people that get successful- Well, I don't think I'm not. Yeah. But if God is everywhere, God is in you, so you are God. That's Hinduism. That's literally Hinduism, I think. Did you try to put
Starting point is 00:44:32 your fucking mud religion on us? Bro, don't convert my boy. This is a good agnostic. You can put mud on Indians, not on the religion. All right, fair enough. You can talk about some Muslims if you talk about Indians. So what religion would you claim to be again? What'd you say? Not on the religion. All right, fair enough. I'm my boy, dude. You still talk about some Muslims if you talk about Indians. That's fine. Fuck, damn it.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So a religion, would you claim to be again? What'd you say? I wouldn't claim that I'm religious. He's the same as you. Okay. But I would say that I would probably adhere to more Christian things than any other one. I celebrate Christmas. I would celebrate Easter. I don't know if I celebrate it, but I would do that.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Do you celebrate Ramadan, too? Who looks for eggs? I usually do a day a year of Ramadan. So 5% Muslim? You do a couple of Shabbat dinners. You're really bad at percentage. I even go to some Shabbat dinners, bro. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Damn, bro. I'm really out here. You know what? They all believe in the same God, and so do I. That's my God. Whatever God those Abrahamic religions believe in, that's the one I believe in.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Allah, Yahweh, God. Run it back. I see you. I see you. Yeah, we run it back. Hashem. Yeah. Hashem.
Starting point is 00:45:28 That's a vibe. So wait, you never celebrated Tim's birthday? Is that what you're trying to tell me? Tim's birthday? Yeah. Jehovah's Witness. Jehovah's Witness. He's not anymore, but he definitely is.
Starting point is 00:45:36 You don't give him presents or anything like that? No, I do. Didn't he grow up in a carnival? His parents met in a carnival. And yeah, when they were like 16. But he was Jehovah's Witness for a long time. What were their roles in a carnival. Yeah, when they were like 16. But he was Jehovah's Witness for a long time. What were their roles in the carnival? Were they selling tickets or were they exhibits?
Starting point is 00:45:50 No, I don't know. See, we need Tim here. With all due respect. With all due respect. With all due respect, can we just know what they are? I don't know. I'm assuming. So you're saying your friend grew up in a fucking carnival and you never asked.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I definitely, he's told me. I don't remember what the fuck they were. But it was, yeah, must not have been that cool. Damn. Fuck, do you go to rides? Would you go do those? Yeah. They're dangerous.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, they're dangerous. That's the fun part. You get kicked in the head for money. Yeah. For money. You get paid to go on a fucking ride? Yeah. Oh, you're paying.
Starting point is 00:46:22 You lose money to do that fucking loop-de-loop. Okay. All right. Yeah. I get pay-per-view points next, so make sure you guys money to do that fucking loop-de-loop. Okay. All right. I get pay-per-view points next, so make sure you guys tune in, buy a pay-per-view in March. Oh, is this your first fight where it's big, big, big money,
Starting point is 00:46:32 or what? Well, last fight was big, big money, but this one's going to be... Can you tell us what you made last time? No, I can't. It's public, ain't it? No. I mean, there's numbers out there,
Starting point is 00:46:39 but it's definitely not close. Meaning yours is more or less? Way more. What's the number that's out there? I think it said, like, like 400,000 or something. And would you say that it's more by like... UFC 299. Bart, buy the pay-per-view.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Would you say it's more by a multiple of like two? Two. Two or ten. What are we closing? Two, three. I mean, you're the... What is it called? The golden goose?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Is that the term? I feel like once you get to three, he can't do the math, so you just give him big numbers. I didn't do good in high school. You didn't? No. You didn't do well yet. I didn't do well. Is that how you say it?
Starting point is 00:47:15 That's what they say. Superman does. I like that. I like that. Put him through the triangle. You know what they say? They call people that do that something. What do they call that when they correct your grammar?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Douchebag? Yeah. They do call them something, not know-it-it-alls yeah i don't even know how to we can't be as all as down there there's a guy wearing the richard millais watch no grammar nazi grammar nazi yeah he's a nazi technically i am technically the nazis took his shit the swastika is originally from india that is true yeah they really fucked it up really yeah so just tell people that when they see it above your bed. I'm Hindu, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I'm supporting my Indian friends. That's crazy. So it meant something else first. Isn't that crazy? It means, what is it? Freedom? Equality? Shut up. What does it mean? Good fortune is what I thought it meant.
Starting point is 00:48:00 You could technically get it tatted. It depends who tats it, though, and where. Right here. It means freedom tats it, though, and where. Yeah. Right here. It could be freedom. Yeah, I guess technically. Dude, I'm not to your guy, though. Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:48:12 How do you know? Yo, good point. Damn, that was a good one. No, I'm not getting as well as him. I met an indie dude one time. He loved the pod. He was like, dude, great to meet you. How do you say it? He loved the pod.
Starting point is 00:48:22 He's actually Australian. I would be mad if it was bad. That wasn't fair. He was actually Australian. He was like, dude, love the pod, you know? That's good. It's wild. It happened to meet you. How did he say it? I didn't love the pod. He's actually Australian. I would be mad if it was bad. That wasn't fair. He was actually Australian. He was like, dude, love the pod, you know? It's wild. I happen to be Indian. But his name was Swastik. Have you ever seen this? No, but that makes sense. Indian
Starting point is 00:48:35 dude named Swastik. And he was like 20. I was like... We don't care about what Jews went through. We don't care. That's our shit. But look at the history, bro. So where we lived in Jersey, mad Indians. And I just saw it on multiple doors. And it't care. That's our shit. But look at the history, bro. So where we lived in Jersey, mad Indians, and I just saw it on multiple doors. And it's also like
Starting point is 00:48:48 there's so many Indians and we got it, but I walk by it every day and never thought a thing. Why is this? I obviously don't know a shit about religion or history,
Starting point is 00:48:57 but obviously the Holocaust happened with all the Jews. No, he acknowledged it happened. That's good. He acknowledged it happened. Can you give him credit? Can you give him credit? Can you give him credit?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Give him a second. Give him a second. There's a lot of YouTube commenters like, no, it didn't, right now. Bro, Sugar's manager is standing over there and he's holding himself right now. No, it's because he's Muslim and he's very happy about what he's about to say.
Starting point is 00:49:18 He's on to something. He's on to something. I don't want this to be fucked up. He's got this. Okay, go, go. I was going to say, why is this, the war happening right now, why are they attacking the Jews? What's up with the Jews that everyone wants to get rid of them?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Why are they trying to? Not like, that's not supposed to be fucked up. That's such a funny question. I can't high five them. It's just such a funny question. Like, yo, what are they doing over there? Is that not what they're trying to do? No, it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:49:38 They're trying to take out, what is it about the Jews that someone keeps kicking them? What we should do is we should have you talk to Doug friend for about an hour and then you'll get it. Oh, God. But then there's a whole scuffle over there. Did you ever have any Jewish friends growing up? No. Have you ever met a Jew?
Starting point is 00:49:59 I don't think that... The fact that you looked at Alex was very not nice of you, to be honest. Like a real Jew? What's a real one? Like the yarmulke? Oh, like they got the personality. Yeah, yeah, they flag it.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Yeah, you gotta rep the set. I don't think I've ever met... Oh wait, Ariel Hawane, isn't he Jewish? He is Jewish. He is very Jewish. He is Jewish. He is very Jewish. He is Moroccan Jew. From Montreal. Like Dove, yes. Matter of fact, Tanya
Starting point is 00:50:31 and Ariel's sister went to school together. Holy shit. Who's Ariel? Ariel is the person you're talking about. Did you forget? You said Ariel. You're a goldfish. He had an interesting pronunciation. I think it was Australian. Oh, I pronounced it differently. You didn't forget what we said ariel you're a goldfish he had an interesting pronunciation i think it was oh i pronounce it differently you didn't forget well ariel ariel could be two different people
Starting point is 00:50:50 that is true that is absolutely true ariel that's weird ariel you call him ariel yeah i would say ariel what do you call it around the nipple areola sick i remember learning that in high school i think it is so funny yeah isn't there a song i say like areola what is it that's what i was thinking i thought it was hoop there it is that's the one that is the lyrics look at al's face right now i don't know if you played around I thought it was hoop. There it is. That's the one. Whoop, whoop. There it is. You thought that was hoop. There it is. That is the lyrics, bro. Look at Al's face right now.
Starting point is 00:51:27 I don't know if you played around. No, that's the lyrics. I think you thought that. Lil Baby's my favorite rapper. Have you ever heard of Lil Baby? No. I haven't. But he's probably my favorite right now.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Why? I don't know. It's just hard. Just vibes, right? Yeah, it's just hard. Have you seen his concert? I know. I haven't. I don't know. It's just hard. Just vibes, right? Yeah, it's just hard. Have you seen his concert? No, I haven't. I would like to.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Bro, you got to pull up. That would be crazy. You got to pull up. Tickets are probably available. Dude, come on, Akash. Damn, Akash. Akash is a hater, dude. My show too, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Akash is a hater, dude. Oh, because it's probably not sold out like your show. Hey! You know that? You know that? Have you been doing No Not November? What's today? November 7th. How often do you let it go?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Dude, it's been more than less now, lately. It's been bad. I understood exactly what you meant. The way that you described it, I understood it perfectly. I think it's because I... It's been a lot. Lil Baby, my baby. The way that you described it, I understood it perfectly. I think it's because I... He was rapping like Lil Baby. It's been a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Wait, like two weeks? Huh? No, since I do, I've been busting a lot. Oh, really? Yeah. What is the appetite? So you said the opposite of what you thought just now. It's been more than less.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. More than less. Four days out of the week, roughly. Right? Four days? Yeah. I would say it's been. You fuck every day? No, sometimes I fuck. Sometimes I out of the week, roughly. Right? Four days? Yeah. I would say seven. You fuck every day? No, sometimes I fuck.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Sometimes I hit it with a... Yeah. With a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You stroke that little baby, you know what I'm saying? That clicker? Yeah, the clicker. I stroke the clicker.
Starting point is 00:52:56 No, sometimes I'll jack off. You sometimes will jack off. To get my mind right, I gotta focus. Yeah. Is that part of meditation? You don't feel like it makes you tired, though? It is just like kind of wears you out i'm about to i'm about to get back on track though when i'm when i'm in training camp i only do it twice a week just to keep that energy keep that chi levels high do you believe that i heard it's the opposite dude dead ass i
Starting point is 00:53:22 heard if you jerk off more it produces more testosterone because your balls are actually pumping to create more cum. No, I don't think that's true from experience. Really? I know if I bust more I definitely don't have
Starting point is 00:53:31 as much energy than if I hold that shit in. Sometimes if I hold that shit in for like three, four days I'll bark at a girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She walks by. Yeah, I feel that.
Starting point is 00:53:39 That's why I do that. What breed? You give her like a golden? I like Black Lab. You got Black Lab on her? Black Lab. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Oh, I thought you meant what girl.
Starting point is 00:53:51 No, yeah, I get it sometimes. But if you hold that in, you go, something about it. For training, like before sparring, three days, no nut. Before sparring, that dog's in me. What's going to be your non-fight thing? Live shows. Like live why haven't Mark Kelly did that this morning? I'd probably do stuff like that. Just going to do
Starting point is 00:54:12 morning television? That's going to be your stick. The sugar show. Filtered, too. Not crazy. Filtered, morning TV. What did they ask you? It was six minutes, and it wasn't long enough. Just family-friendly, you know, very demographics, older ladies. Did you try to insert some shit in there, or did you play ball?
Starting point is 00:54:30 I played ball. Okay, so what did they ask you about? Making weight, like how do you go from 160 to 135? Jerking off. No, I didn't say that. They asked me about, they said something about my tattoos. Talked about the fight coming up.
Starting point is 00:54:50 March, pay-per-view. UFC 299. Doesn't it feel corny? Saying what? Just doing those shows. It feels like you gotta play a character. Yeah. But I was about it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I was trying to get some, you don't know what milfs are watching that shit. That's a good point. I was trying to get some, you know, you don't know what MILFs are watching, that shit. I was trying to look good. That's a good point. I was trying to, you know, check in my DMs later. And? No, I will be checking them later. You got to check Facebook messages.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah. That's where the MILFs are. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I don't fucking, I need to get off. I don't really fuck with Facebook much anymore. You're missing a lot of old hoes. Bro, there's a ton of MILFs, a plethora of MILFs on Facebook. I do like MILFs, though, because it's kind of easier for no strings attached type stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:27 You want no strings attached? Yeah, obviously. Because you have strings. I've been playing Madden lately. With the kids of the MILFs you bang? Uh-uh. Call of Duty. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Headshot. Like your mom.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Whoa, whoa. Chill. You never said that when you're gaming with one of the dudes? No, I have. I've said some crazy shit. Like? I banged your mom. Literally. No, yeah, Call of Duty,
Starting point is 00:55:50 old school, before you used to stream. Oh, dude. The stuff you could say. You let it all go. Oh, everything. You gotta let it out in some way.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Nipples. A lot of nipples. A lot of nipples? I've never said that. I heard some of those chat rooms leaked. Like, apparently this week, like, some of, like, the recordings from those, like, Call of Duty lobbies leaked.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Did you hear that? Like, recently leaked, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. From recent games? Or old school? Old school. I'm talking Call of Duty, like, Modern Warfare 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:14 It's all archived. I don't know if you know that. A lot of it leaked, apparently, dude. Well, you guys don't even know which name I had. My name was crazy, probably. I don't know what it was. What was it? Yeah, I feel like you remember exactly what it was. Yeah, it's like, sugar, one was crazy, probably. I don't know what it was. What was it? I feel like you remember
Starting point is 00:56:26 exactly what it was. It's like sugar, one, two, three. Never gets down. Oh, no, no. What was my fucking name? My little brother's was Ty, T-I-E,
Starting point is 00:56:40 knee, K-N-E-E, P-P, Ty, knee, P-P. Oh, that's kind of good. That was kind of a good one, but I don't remember what mine was. It's probably something just like generic. You're not going to branch out at all? You're not going to play any of the games?
Starting point is 00:56:51 You play Last of Us? I haven't been gaming at all. I haven't really been gaming. I've played a couple games of Madden here and there, but I haven't been gaming anymore. Come on, dude. I retired after I fought Peter, got the title shot, said I'm done. So what are you doing? I haven't been gaming.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Just jacking off. No, I still go to the gym. I've been gaming. Just jacking off. No, I still go. I've been going to the gym once a day, training. What's outside of fighting? What's after that? Like, I'm trying to understand. Just walk us through the rest of your fight career, then what comes after? Because you clearly have your fight career laid out in your brain.
Starting point is 00:57:21 You're buying real estate. Like, you're making moves. You're not a dumb guy. Like, you're preparing for life after fighting. So I want to're making moves. You're not a dumb guy. You're preparing for life after fighting. So I want to know what is... I want to be a billionaire. Is that really important to you? Not really important,
Starting point is 00:57:32 but that's kind of where my head's at. You want generational wealth. You want the money that you never have to work again, your kids never have to work again, and their kids don't have to work again. I mean, that's one way to look at it. I just want to be a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Just to say it? So freaking bad. On the cover of Forbes magazine. I just want to be a billionaire. Just to say it? So freaking bad. On the cover of Forbes magazine. You know that song? Forbes magazine. This guy's a singer, bro. Yeah. You can tell he's a singer when he busts out those lyrics. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I just think the investment stuff is interesting. I want to learn more about it. Amaran and I have been having conversations with a lot of people that are in that space to see where we can invest more money and learn
Starting point is 00:58:12 about that game. Is there an amount of money that you would make where you would stop fighting? Let's say your fight with Cheeto. I don't think I'll make that amount of money until after fighting, but if I made... I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. Let's say you have $100 million in the bank right now.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Do you take another fight? I fight Cheeto for sure. Outside of that? Outside of that. $100 million. I love performing, dude. And I can't sing yet. So I feel like I would fight.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So you need to scratch that itch, in other words. I have to perform right now. While I'm this age. Because I know for a fact when I get older that if I don't take as much, squeeze as much fucking life out of my late 20s, early 30s, if I don't just do as much as possible in this athletic form, that I'll regret it. We had Jason Williams on. Do you know who Jason Williams is? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:59:02 So Jason Williams, white white chocolate was one of the most like influential nba players back in the day when i was growing up and uh way way long time ago but he was talking about how difficult it was to leave basketball and he's like i'm playing it's like i can only play so much golf like i'm playing golf non-stop he has to like fill that void that like was his life yeah and i'm always curious with professional athletes if you think about what that will be yeah i definitely do um i think you know if my body can still hold up i think i can still do jujitsu still compete um but it's gonna be hard because i feel like at that point i'm gonna be so popular so like it'll be hard to just go to
Starting point is 00:59:43 like a competition and just compete without it being some crazy fucking thing yeah you know uh so yeah i don't know i love what floyd does i love that floyd takes the exhibitions he's older still like keeps in good shape goes and smokes these dudes so i think boxing like there's for whatever reason like so you need the competition and you need to entertain dude what about w about WWE? Yeah, why not? That definitely could be a possibility. That'd be cool, right? Yeah, that would be really cool.
Starting point is 01:00:09 It's not competition. Yeah, it's entertaining. But it's entertaining. It's athletic. It's athletic, it's entertaining, and there's still kind of high stakes. And there's kind of a competition. I feel like there's almost like a performance and like charm competition. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, a little bit. Like you have a competition of charisma. Yeah, it's not competition like I'm going to of charisma. I'm winning over the crowd. Yeah, yeah. It's not competition like I'm going to beat you in this thing because that's predetermined. But I'm going to beat you in the eyes of the viewer. But I'm going to win the crowd, yeah. I'm going to put on a better performance.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Yeah. That's interesting. I never really thought about that. I don't know. I think a lot of it is the true competition, the true competitiveness. I think I do enjoy business. I will continue business, yeah, forever.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I wonder if you can transfer it into that. I've seen athletes do that a little bit. Kobe did that. Kobe did that, recipes, and also Magic Johnson. But he was still balling, right? No, when he finished. He made it like a mission to improve the players. Oh, shoot, that's right.
Starting point is 01:00:57 See, he had his daughters that he was coaching. So I feel like there's that competitiveness with being a coach. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like it's all going to— being a coach. Yeah. I don't know. I don't. I feel like it's all going to. It's not something you have to think about now. My life's played out so perfectly right now. Like, I feel like if I just go with the flow and, you know, keep making, start making better decisions.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Is there ever a time where you, like, are at a fight and you see older UFC guys and it scares you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, but those guys trained different. What do you mean? Those guys sparred every fucking session. Do you think that's what is taking the years off your life?
Starting point is 01:01:30 Oh, 100%. Dude, sparring is brutal. I haven't sparred once since my fight. I'm not going to spar until I get into camp. I sparred you. Before...
Starting point is 01:01:38 That was before that. Oh, I prepared you for that. That was in camp. I did prepare for that. I appreciate that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was preparation. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:43 So, yeah, sparring's brutal for those guys, too, back then. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was preparation. Okay, so yeah, sparring's brutal. For those guys too back then. Yeah. Yeah, Rogan says that as well. He was like, especially the heavyweight guys. It's like, you're going in there with dudes that are concussing you and sparring. Yeah. You're not even getting rocked.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Even if you go 70%, you're still getting touched. Oh, yeah. I've been fucked up early on in sparring when I moved to the lab when I was like 20, 21. Like sparring hard as fuck, trying to still make a name for myself, trying to still like, you know, still learning. And I feel like it was important at that age and at that stage. Whoa, see, you got bars, bro, at that age, at that stage. No, that's the black in you. There's a—
Starting point is 01:02:18 Brown sugar. Yeah. There's Max Holloway. I feel like he almost started a trend. I feel like I heard that, but I feel like he also actually spars in camp. Oh, really? So he's just saying that? I feel like he came out.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I don't think he was lying. I think he came out and said that to kind of be funny because it was COVID and he was saying, I don't spar. And I like Max. I'm not trying to call him out, but I feel like he definitely still spars in camp. Like you're telling me he doesn't spar at all? Maybe he does a kind of like light work, polite sparring. What I'm trying to understand is just coming from like watching boxers for years, every boxer has basically said, in order for me to get my timing right, I need to be sparring.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But then MMA guys go, oh, we don't need to exactly spar in camp. And MMA guys go, oh, we don't need to exactly spar in camp. I have to spar before a fight. But I do not have to spar when I don't have a fight booked. I need, like, honestly, to take my first session back. Sometimes I'm like, whew. Oh, it's slow. I'm off a little bit. I mean, what's off?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Just, like, the timing's off. You play any other sports? You play basketball ever? Dude, I would love to get on, like, a basketball league or go to the gym and play basketball. I just can't risk it, dude. No, no, no. But I'm saying like you've played it growing up. You know the game.
Starting point is 01:03:32 All right. You know when you haven't played ball for a minute, your like dribble is a little off? Is that what sparring is like? Okay. Which I am nervous about because next, tomorrow, I'm going to go and I'm going to go shoot around with the guys before the game. And I'm going to try to show out. I'm going to try to ball. I'm going to try to be like, yeah, I'm taking ball. Is that going to go and I'm going to go shoot around with the guys before the game. I'm going to try to show out. I'm going to try to be like,
Starting point is 01:03:46 is that going to happen? Probably not. But I haven't played in a long time, so I'm going to be like real fucking off. I got a jacket for you. Do you have anything that you're wearing? Look at me. You need some Knicks stuff. You need to show respect. I literally asked
Starting point is 01:04:03 the one that's doing all my PR to ask the Knicks if I got like a full sweat warm-up suit, shorts, jersey. I asked for it all because I want to ball out. All right. I'm going to grab you something. You probably wouldn't even be able to tell who – if you had a pick and everyone's lined up on the court, say who's not actually – you probably couldn't even tell. Yeah. Yeah. They'd assume that you played for the Knicks for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I would love to do that. I thought you weren't Julius Randle when you walked in. I act as funny as the second guy that said that. That's funny, man. I'm just worried about...
Starting point is 01:04:38 What are you worried about, man? What are you so worried about? AI taking over. I'm a little worried about that too, bro. Thank you, dude. He's so stressed about the AI thing. I'm a little worried about that too, bro. Thank you, dude. Thank you. I'm not worried about AI. He's so stressed about the AI thing. I'm not stressed. I'm definitely not stressed.
Starting point is 01:04:48 He's stressed. I'm stressed. I'm stressed. He's having trouble sleeping. Elon fucking flew to London. Remember? Did you listen to Rogan? Elon flew to London to talk about AI safety, so we're good.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Yeah. You trust him? You think he's got us? Elon? Yeah. I trust the process, baby. Yeah. So we got him here.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. Trust it. We're here, baby. I have That's what got me here. Trust it. We're here, baby. I have a question, and we can cut it if you don't like it, but have you heard the conspiracy that the UFC is rigging fights with people like you and Patty because they need more faces of the— We definitely don't have to cut it. I mean, I'm living it right now, so if someone's rigging it, I mean, I guess—
Starting point is 01:05:22 So who would be the one to rig it? Wait, what's the one to rig it? Wait, what's the conspiracy? So it's like they don't have enough faces of the organization. So it's like they're trying to prop guys who have a lot of charisma and they're really not a self-fights. So is the argument that they would have paid Aljo to? I don't know. I just saw the conspiracy online.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I feel like you've seen that. I feel like that's always kind of been a thing every once in a while when something happens and you're like, oh, that's crazy. But the thing you're right about, UFC needing stars right now, that's why I feel like I'm in such a fucking good position because I do feel like,
Starting point is 01:05:54 I mean, you could argue that I'm not the number one guy right now, but I think once this next fight happens, plays out, I win, I will be the biggest guy in the UFC
Starting point is 01:06:02 and by the end of the year, I'll be the biggest athlete in sports by, and by the end of the year, I'll be the biggest athlete in sports by the end of 2024. But I do think, I definitely don't think the UFC's rigged. I don't even understand how that would be. But they need stars, and I'm right fucking there. Right now, this is that freeze pipe. For the smoothest way to enjoy cannabis, you've got to try a freezable piece from freeze pipe.
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Starting point is 01:08:58 Go get it. Now let's get back to the show. Okay, and we're back. Babies, how old? Atlanta just turned three November 3rd, a couple days ago. Yeah, she's like, you can hang out with her now. She's kind of copying what I say. She hasn't said anything bad yet, because I need to get better at watching what I say.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Yeah, you're a mirror. Yeah, but I'm also like, if she drops an F-bomb. Whatever. It's just a word. Fuck it. No, I'm just kidding. I definitely need to try to i need to try to watch this uh is the personality starting to shine through oh yeah she's bro she's sassy
Starting point is 01:09:31 i feel like just little girl little princesses are she's definitely a little spoiled too so it's like she's sassy yeah try not it's like so hard if she wants a fucking applesauce i don't know she wants like a popsicle in the morning and i'm like you can't have a popsicle for breakfast like she'll freak out is it hard not to just spoil her yeah it is but it's also like
Starting point is 01:09:54 I know what giving her a popsicle in the morning would do it's like that's not good for you it's like a little fucking sugar rush in the morning let's eat some eggs from our chickens some healthy good quality eggs what about toys and stuff what if she just wants things hard to say no Let's eat some eggs from our chickens. Yeah. You know, some healthy, good quality eggs. We're trying to, you know. What about toys and stuff? What if she just wants things?
Starting point is 01:10:08 It's hard to say no. Yeah, if we go to a store, she'll grab something and she gets it. Every time. Yeah, there's no like, no, we can't get that. That's not a thing. Are grandparents helping out? Oh, yeah. Your parents?
Starting point is 01:10:18 Your parents? Yep. Danny's mom is like our full-time nanny. And then Danny's sister has two young kids her age that she loves, loves going over there. And then my mom lives close. What is it like seeing your mom with your daughter? Oh, it's cool. She loves it.
Starting point is 01:10:35 She has a whole playroom just for her. Is it wild seeing them be grand? You're like, where was this with me? What do you mean? but you're like, where was this with me? What do you mean? What I've heard a lot of times about grandparents is you get all of the love, but none of the responsibility or discipline.
Starting point is 01:10:51 So they just fucking drape you with love. Yeah. And you look at your mom, you're like, hold on, you were telling me I got to go do my homework and all this other shit. Yeah. Have you seen that with her, or is she trying to teach you how to parent a little bit?
Starting point is 01:11:02 I think just three is such a young age that it's just like we'll see when she gets a little bit older. Because right now you're all kind of just spoiled. Right now she's just so perfect and cute. But I have this swing outside my house, big, huge trees. The weather right now is perfect. So like probably four or five times a week I'll go out there. I'll know what time – like when she gets tired. Like if she's not tired, she's not going to times a week. I'll go out there. I'll know what time, like when she gets tired, like if she's not tired,
Starting point is 01:11:25 she's not going to take a nap. But when she gets tired, we'll go out there and swing back and forth and she'll take a nap like 30 minutes on my chest. She's like knocked out. That's the best shit ever, bro. That tops everything.
Starting point is 01:11:37 That's like very peaceful. That's the best. Did she surprise you? Like when she knows something or says something, you're like, where the hell did you learn that? She said, what the heck? The other day, that was funny. Yeah, you're like where the hell did you learn that she said what the heck
Starting point is 01:11:45 the other day that was funny you just spin around she'll repeat things that you've said oh yeah Danny said she said something
Starting point is 01:11:51 she said she said something today I forget what it was Cheetos the best dress in the UFC did you say that no I am
Starting point is 01:12:00 yeah fatherhood's been good it's uh she keeps me very best feeling you've ever experienced yeah those naps outside just like yeah those naps outside her drooling on me like her like her cheeks just kind of fat just laying on me that's the best yeah and it makes sense why you're not streaming as much like what you're just saying like streaming because if you're basically like okay i'm gonna stream for three hours make make a couple brands. Or I'm going to go on this swing and just feel the best feeling ever.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Well, it's fun too now. I can take her to the gym and like hit mitts with Tim and she'll run around or watch. Like she can go sit back in the back and watch Cocomelon or something. So I can take her now with me, which is really cool. That's fun. I can just take her with me, sit in the car, get in her little car seat and hang out with her. And they learn everything from absorbing it. It's just watching.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I always say that. I don't think my parents told me much, but I observed them working. They didn't talk to you? That makes a lot of sense. They didn't talk to other people. You just need to fill the air. No, but it's one of those things where I was like,
Starting point is 01:12:57 wow, they didn't really discipline me and tell me how to be a person. I just kind of watched them. So anything you tell them, it just goes one ear and comes out the other. They're just going to see how you treat Danny. They're going to see how to be a person. I just kind of watch them. So anything you tell them, it just goes one near comes out the other. They're just going to see how you treat Danny. They're going to see how you treat other people. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:13:10 They're going to expect this. High five, man. Yeah, I thought, man. No, yeah, it's a trip. But it's only one baby right now, right? One baby right now. More, you thinking? It's so weird.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I have this desire to have so many. I feel like I've always had it i just want to fucking tribe like how many shoot the club up bro shoot it up i don't know if that's how you say that that's how we say it over here yeah shoot the club up with all due respect with all due respect you guys should air that bitch oh sorry but it's tricky because it's like danny definitely he's like good with one um what and i And I am good with one, too, because there is so much responsibility. I felt like that was a little racist. Yeah, that was a little racist.
Starting point is 01:13:48 That was racist. I'm just saying. I felt like that was a little racist. She was good with just one shit. When we first met, she didn't want kids. So you convinced to get one going? It just happened. It was an accident.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Oh, really? You know what's crazy? It was such an accident that I'm like, still, I'm like, I don't know if it's mine. You got to check on 23andMe, bro. Are you going to? I should. No. No, she she got them curly fucking locks boy I'm a kid I'm talking about for his wife she's not Mexican if she's crazy she's definitely the reason she didn't want kids though is because she's so Mexican that she basically raised her siblings because she had five brothers and then who did she get with a white a
Starting point is 01:14:29 white a horny white yeah she miscalculated yeah she was like he's only gonna want one kid for sure yeah but you're irish so yeah but do you want like a little boy though like just throw one more little shonald yeah i mean mean, I go back and forth. I'm like, I could be good with one, but then there's something in me that's like, let's have 10. Seriously. That's what my parents did. I battled that. You're bringing your girl to the gym. What if she wants to get into fighting and you let her have it?
Starting point is 01:14:56 My little princess? Yeah. Oh, no. That would be hard for me. That would be hard for me. I think she will do jiu-jitsu. I think jiu-jitsu will be required. I think that will be. Yeah, I I think Jiu Jitsu will be required I think that will be
Starting point is 01:15:05 Jiu Jitsu is so good for those kids even because Tim has a huge kids class and just seeing those kids and it's so good for them just learning how to the confidence you get from Jiu Jitsu understanding your body I just think it's important
Starting point is 01:15:22 I think Jiu Jitsu should be taught in schools so she'll do that as far as fighting, boxing, just think it's important. I think jiu-jitsu should be taught in schools. 100%. So she'll do that. As far as fighting, boxing, MMA, I mean, if it's her passion, there's nothing really you can do about it
Starting point is 01:15:31 because you can only find, I mean, you're lucky if you find one passion. So if that's like, this is what I want to do, for me to tell her no, I wouldn't do that,
Starting point is 01:15:39 but I would really hope it's not fucking fighting. I hope it's hair. Danny does hair. I mean, that's safe. You can cut yourself. She cuts herself with her scissors sometimes yeah i mean i can handle that but yeah i knock out cheetos get back to that question
Starting point is 01:15:52 yeah later in the fight oh you think it will go yeah he's tough dude he's very durable no cheetos very tough cheetos tough yeah so i'm i'm not going in there expecting him to you know what do you think he's going to try to do with you Very tough. Jito's tough. Yeah. So I'm not going in there expecting him to, you know. What do you think he's going to try to do with you? I mean, he's going to try to kick my legs. But that's kind of like being a lot of the guys' game plans, kick my legs. I think he's just going to hope his cardio outlasts mine and just be durable and try to get a finish later in the fight probably will be his game plan.
Starting point is 01:16:28 What's the most exhausted you've been in the fight? Peter? Either Peter or my UFC debut. My debut was crazy. I was fucking bro, that fight was crazy. You think it was just the fact it was your first fight or the nerves maybe made you more tired?
Starting point is 01:16:44 I was eating a vegan diet at the time and I wasn't eating how I should have been for a UFC fighter. I should have been eating more. And it was my first fight that went three five-minute rounds as a pro. It went the distance. And I just – I trained as hard as i could at the time but looking back i could have done a lot more but that fight was crazy like the first round i thought it was that for one of my ufc debut against terry on where is one of my favorite fights to go back and watch it was so entertaining i was hitting such sweet shit
Starting point is 01:17:19 and uh the first round i was piecing up doing something crazy second round i completely gassed out just like was dead tired and then the third round, I was piecing up, doing something crazy. The second round, I completely gassed out. Just like was dead tired. And then the third round, I hit a second wind and came up back on and finished that fight. That fight, that was one of my favorite fights. Yeah. How much difference? Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:17:35 What is, just from doing a little boxing, like sparring back in the day. There is nothing more demoralizing and vulnerable than having no cardio and two more minutes left in the round. What is that like in the professional fight? The cardio is gone. You're exhausted. Where is your brain going? I feel like I've trained. I feel like you prepare in those camps.
Starting point is 01:18:05 You get there in training. You get that time. So you're comfortable with the exhaustion. Yeah. You're comfortable having nothing left to give. Well, it's either you quit or you keep going. And do you go, okay, I'm just defending right now. I'm just protecting myself.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Well, sometimes the best way to kind of get a break is be offensive kind of, you know. But it's not like fear taking over anything like that it's a comfortable state yeah it's it's tricky it's like i mean it's it's hard to think about how you're thinking because you're just in survival you're just being yeah you're fight or flight and uh i've all i feel like i always knew i had the dog in me or some people you don't know if they do or not. That was a big question for a lot of people going into that Peter Jan fight. About you.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Like, does he have that dog? When he gets in a bad position, is he going to still fight? Which I thought I proved when I broke my foot in my second fight. I snapped the top of my foot out of Liz Frank's surgery. I was hopping on one foot. I thought that was enough to prove that I had the dog in me. But I still wasn't very popular at the time. So I don't think a lot of people saw that fight um but that peter young fight yeah i gotta show that because he you know he rocked me hard in the second round uh it
Starting point is 01:19:12 was that fight was a war i gotta prove it how much does the camp change when you're adding two extra rounds like five versus three yeah that was an interesting camp last camp especially because i was dealing with a rib injury so it was like I wasn't even able to do – I thought I was going to be able to do five fives in sparring, in MMA. I did five fives just kickboxing. I was able to kickbox, but I wasn't able to do any MMA for the last six weeks. So I didn't actually go in – I didn't do the five fives, but I would add extra rounds hitting mitts or extra sprints than I would have if it was a three-round fight.
Starting point is 01:19:47 So it was just more work. How bad does the injury have to be to call it off? I assume everybody's injured in every training camp. Yeah. If I wasn't the main event and that fight wasn't – that was Boston. That fight was meant for me. That fight was the Sugar Show. So if it't that i might i probably would have pulled out i couldn't grapple at all for six weeks and you're going up against couldn't even clinch whose competitive advantage against
Starting point is 01:20:14 you should be strongest guy grappling the division wow i know i hate bringing that up because it looks like i don't know it just sounds douchey but it was just that was the reality of it i couldn't grapple. What was it? Broke your rib? No, I didn't break my rib. It was just like a muscle strain in there. So it's like you literally – have you ever hurt your ribs?
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah. It sucks. Bro, ribs take months. Muscular, you can't move at all. You can't breathe without pain. You can't sleep without pain. It was horrible. I could hit mints. I could kick box.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I just couldn't do any kind of clinch, any touching. So I probably would have pulled out if it wasn't the main event. Is it nervous in the locker room going into a fight? I was calm. Really? Calm. That's why I'm so excited for the documentary to come out. Because they were in the back the whole time with me.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Are you ever surprised at how calm you are? Or are you like, oh, I should feel more nervous when I'm actually locked in right now? No, I'm just calm. I just know that's where i need to be mentally yeah i perform at my highest level i heard you say you'll get like a meditative state during a fight and you don't exactly know what's going on can you just walk us through exactly what that is because that sounds so fucking cool but it's also kind of vague the way you say it can you just give us what's yeah yeah so fight day when this was a
Starting point is 01:21:24 weird fight day too because i didn't even fight saturday i weighed in friday morning didn't even fight saturday i fought sunday morning so that whole day saturday is just fucking waiting around chilling but i'm just very in tune with my breath the whole time so when you're constantly just following your breath your your heart rate's lower you're just kind of at a calm state so all day i'm just kind of you know following my, very calm all day, like not exerting any energy other than like a little workout to blow up my lungs, but very calm.
Starting point is 01:21:51 So in the back, same thing, just following my breath, listening to the calming music until about 20 minutes before the fight, and then you kind of turn up the music, but still very calm. It all comes down to just following your breath. I constantly am just trying to play with my breath. I'll do long ass holds. I'll do fire breathing with a long exhale. I'll just do, I'll play with, it's like a game.
Starting point is 01:22:19 You can just get this relationship with your breath, play with it. Is this like Wim Hof techniques? It kind of, yeah, there's Wim Hof. It's just, yeah, I mean, it's just breathing breathing it's playing with it um but i'll do long holds really really just get oxygen to all my muscles my entire body open up my lungs get my lungs prepared to you know be tired and have to just be able to move that oxygen but uh yeah walking out to the fight i always have that conversation with myself.
Starting point is 01:22:46 I'm like, all right, I'm just going to let my higher self take over, let all the work that I've put in take over. Whatever happens, happens. Truly go into that fight. If I lose, I lose. That's cool. It's like I'm not, my life's not over. I've heard Conor talk about that. Like his perspective walking into the ring, he's like, okay, I put in all this time in this camp. I worked so hard
Starting point is 01:23:06 nonstop training, thinking about the opponent going to kill him. And the second I walk in, have fun. I'm sparring. I'm just going to let loose. I'm going to stop thinking about all these technical little details I prepared for myself and just exist. What's going on in your brain? Is it just a reaction like, move left,
Starting point is 01:23:21 duck, what, swing here? Yeah, I would say there's very few thoughts going going on in my mind it's probably what like those monks and the buddhists like get to when they're enlightened yeah or they're just kind of they're feeling the wind or listening to the sounds like i feel like it's a lot of that because i don't really have very many vivid memories of what actually like how'd you feel when you hit it like flow state i was the purest form of flow state yeah and you could see it when you're starting to get off yeah that it feels like everything is you know leading
Starting point is 01:23:55 into another like every strike is connected to another one it's not this like oh here's a pot shot let me hold my breath and wait. Each thing is connected to another thing. You've seen that with Conor, too, early in his fights. There was this wheel kick that he would bust out every once in a while. But the wheel kick came off of changing the direction of the opponent. And it was just like, oh, wow, everything is a piece-by-piece setup. It's almost like chess match. Well, you guys probably feel it when you're performing on stage. It's the same thing, just in a different art form.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Yeah, I really think it is. I feel like my worst sets is when I'm thinking about every little joke that I'm going to do. And the best sets is just flowing, crowd work thing here, this joke here, move this joke up. That's why I like crowd work, because I can't think as much. Whereas sometimes, I don't know if this happens, it probably can't happen because it's life or death for you. But there's times where I feel like I'm watching myself kind of on autopilot. That's when I'm the most mad at myself.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I try to get into that and it's just... That's where I feel like the breath comes in. That's why I feel like I show up every time. I know how to get into that flow state. What's that breath work thing that you did? This is like, it's a different breath work thing. It's like your body has the trauma and then you breathe.
Starting point is 01:25:06 It's all the same, really. I feel like breathwork is good for you. But as far as sparring goes, I don't think of fights as just another day of sparring. Because in sparring, I'm not trying to kill this guy. I don't really want to hurt my partner. I really don't. Genuinely don't want to knock him out. But in the cage, I want to put his lights out.
Starting point is 01:25:25 Bad. Maybe I misquoted Conor on that. No, no, you're good. A lot of people do refer to it. It's like sparring. Some people spar like that. I think they do that also to not make it too big. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:36 I want it life or death. I want it to feel like the stakes. You want the pressure. I want that, yeah. What did you think of that Ngannou Fury fight? I thought Tyson won the boxing match. I know he got dropped. He lost that round 10-8.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I know he got pieced up in the later rounds. But I thought he outboxed him. It was very impressive. I mean, Francis' boxing IQ was so impressive. It was good. Even landing that hook. But he caught the one-two. Like Tyson comes in with that one-two.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Every single, that's his move. He has these great feints. Oh, he was looking sharp in the beginning. I was, at the very beginning of the fight, he came out. He landed like a big, it's like this like almost overhand right, but he doesn't lube it too much. And he just stood there. That is a scary.
Starting point is 01:26:21 And Tyson looked at him like, whoa. Bro, that was scary. I didn't realize he was 37. That is wild too. And Tyson looked at him like, whoa. Bro, that was scary. I didn't realize he was 37. That is wild, too. Who, who, who? Francis. Yeah, Francis. I heard that on your interview.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Yeah, yeah. 37. What the fuck? 33. Do you think more MMA guys can happen to him? I don't think so. I think there is crazy levels to boxing. Hey, guys.
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Starting point is 01:27:00 Here's what I say, though. This week, you've got to go Patrick Mahomes there playing the Eagles. I'm not sure the Chiefs will win, but I think he's going to tear up that Eagles secondary. So you've got to trust Patrick Mahomes with more. Also, I'm going to go Josh Allen less. The Jets defense is still really good. You've just got to trust the Jets defense. And if Kenny Pickett is offered, less.
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Starting point is 01:27:51 I think so, too. I think it was a mixture between... I think that fight plays out different. Obviously, if they fight again, every fight's going to be different. Of course. I think... Yeah, Sean showed up. Maybe a combination of both.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Maybe Izzy didn't take him as seriously, but also Shawn's boxing acumen was higher than people thought. Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was a very interesting fight. I'd like to see Shawn box some boxers. That'd be crazy. It'd be really interesting. I wish it wasn't such a big deal.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I wish you could go and box a little bit and it didn't have to be a big deal. You don't think that they would let you do that? I think I will do that someday. You still want Tank, right? Yeah, I still want that fight. I'll get that fight someday. You want Tank?
Starting point is 01:28:32 Yeah. Genuinely? Yeah. I'm going to get that fight someday. The same way I would have sat here and told you I'm going to be champ, the same feeling I have is I don't know if it's going to be Tank. It could be Ryan Garcia. I think that I will have a big boxing fight.
Starting point is 01:28:47 But you also look at Tank and you're like, this guy is an exceptional boxer. Yeah, of course. And like a Bud Crawford, for example, exceptional. Yeah. You just said how skilled boxing is. Yeah. And then you said – It's not to take away from your skill, but you can acknowledge that these guys are absolutely devastatingly good at boxing.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Yeah. Okay. And I could still win. Yeah, I'm not saying you could, but you acknowledge that it's not a walk in the park like it might be against some guys. Yeah, of course not. I don't think I'm going to. But I say I could. You could also clip them and then drop them.
Starting point is 01:29:20 That's the game. That's the game. I'm a fucking sniper. I know how to punch. So this is what I would say. And in your weight. That's the game. That's the game. I'm a fucking sniper. I know how to punch. So this is what I would say. And in your weight. You're so tall. If people asked before this Francis Ngannou-Tyson Fury fight, if people asked who's a better
Starting point is 01:29:34 striker pound for pound, Sean O'Malley or Francis Ngannou, I think nine out of 10 people would say Sean O'Malley. And they'd be right. And they would probably be right technically. After this fight, after she... Striker or boxer? Just boxer. Just boxer.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Okay. Just boxer. Even boxer. I think 9 out of 10 would be like, oh, yeah, his hands are crazy. After this fight, I think a lot of people go, I think we underestimated Francis' boxing. It's not to take away from you, but I never thought Francis was this high IQ with the boxing. The decisions he was making, I thought he was going to be like a lot of the MMA
Starting point is 01:30:09 guys that go into boxing, that they have two or three strikes, and then they freeze. Francis was, at moments of this fight, in control of who I think is the best heavyweight boxer of all time. I think it's different at heavyweight, too. Because
Starting point is 01:30:24 one punch. Not that I don't have one one punch but my one punch has to be right on the chin and heavyweights you can hit him with either hand you get up two hands and boxing and he could throw and just land and drop so it not to take away from how impressive it was yeah but i just think at heavyweight it's different yeah and the interest in it was crazy. I mean, the UFC's got to look at that and be salivating and go, okay, if Tank agrees to a fight against our champ. We'll see. The UFC, they said, you know, they're like, yeah, we'll see. They have to build themselves up more. They don't look at him as a star right now.
Starting point is 01:31:01 Wait, wait. They don't think Tank is a star? Yeah. What? Tank is. What? Tank has. They said Ryan Garcia. star right now wait wait they don't think tank is a star yeah what tank is what tank they said they they they said ryan garcia was a star is a star they said ryan garcia carried that i i'll be honest if you look at the tanks this is what they said of course but if you look at tanks past few fights if you just look at the gate whoever tank fights it sold tank has the hood like there's certain boxers that that have
Starting point is 01:31:27 different cultures yeah oscar had mexicans latinos he also had women that was another thing back in the day floyd had everybody you either want him to lose you want to win but floyd also had black americans they're like yo this guy's gonna win we're riding with this guy tank has black americans i think he's getting there no no no no no he's there black Americans. I think he's getting there. I do. No, no, no, no, no, no. He's there. I'm telling you, bro. He's been there for four fights. But what I'll say is when you go watch a UFC fight, there is so much more value on that card than watching a boxing match. That's what I wanted to say.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Like when I go watch. But still. If I watch you headline, right? Not only do I get to watch you. I might pay for you. Yeah. But I'm going to get at least. A couple bangers.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Three or four other fights that I'm interested in. Yeah. Even me as a casual, I'm a super casual. I will know both fighters and at least two fights on every UFC card. Boxing, I will know one boxer. Have you been to boxing matches before? Jake Paul.
Starting point is 01:32:18 He actually don't have you been to a boxing match. Jake's boxing. If you go to a boxing match, it is an empty arena until the minute they walk into the ring. If you go to a UFC fight, it is absolutely packed for the prelims.
Starting point is 01:32:36 It's a better product. Yeah, but the money doesn't lie. Because what they're doing is a go-out-of-business sale in boxing. They're doing business poorly. It benefits the top of the top, but it kills the brand of boxing. And then with UFC, they're able to build a brand. And the cost of building that brand is reinvesting into the business that builds it. And I know that's frustrating for you guys. And I want you guys to make all the fucking money. Don't get me wrong. And I hope it at the top, you to make all the fucking money don't get me wrong and i hope it at the top you guys make all the money yeah but the way that you basically move past boxing is by doing exactly
Starting point is 01:33:10 what you guys did it's what amazon did amazon didn't make any profit they just dump everything back into the business back into the business so the fact that ufc has gone from this like weird like hillbilly fringe sport yeah where you're seeing seeing fat dudes fight sumo wrestlers to the number one... This is the same thing. Who's the guy I'm thinking of? The big, fat, black karate guy you saw at Hoist Gracie back in the day?
Starting point is 01:33:36 Anyway, to the number one fight sport, it takes reinvestment. I want boxers to make as much and I want fighters to make as much money. I want you to make all the fucking money. So the UFC pays the lower guys more than the boxers pay the lower guys. And I think that's something that's kind of missed. There's no middle class here.
Starting point is 01:33:53 None. None. But the main event in boxing makes more money. They make crazy money. The main event. Yeah, 100%. But boxing as a whole sucks. Dude, corruption.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Nobody wants to fight each other. Everybody's afraid of a loss. Whereas in UFC, guys will lose and then increase their standing. Hey, you just show... There's a guy. Oh my God, I'm going to forget his fucking name. Chito. Lopez, I think
Starting point is 01:34:18 his name is. Boxer or UFC? No, UFC fighter. He just fought someone. He fought another person. No, no, no. Chito is a boxer. Lopez spelled L-O-P-E-S. I think he's a Brazilian guy that fights out of a Mexican gym. Oh, he's fighting this weekend? Yes. Okay, I see. Weird haircut. Weird haircut.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Diego Lopez? I think his name is Diego Lopez. He's a featherweight. He lost that fight short notice. But short notice stepped up against a guy who was really highly touted in the division. I think that was on the Henry Aldo card. Mozart, Evil Love.
Starting point is 01:34:48 And it was a sick fight. And like, yeah. And there's a perfect example. The audience goes, oh, you have an L on your record. They go, no. We don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck. You really fought.
Starting point is 01:34:58 You busted your ass. You were an underdog. You came up. You stepped up. And now we want to watch you fight again. Yeah. I think that a brand like that is awesome for fighters because now you're less concerned about taking a risk. Now you're not going, oh, I don't want to fight.
Starting point is 01:35:11 You're going, yeah, I'm going to fight, and I'm going to fucking show up. And even if I lose, I'm still going to get fights. Yeah. Smart. Yeah. UFC is fucking – that's why I don't really complain about the money. Well, I'm getting paid good now. I'm in a really, really good spot.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'm happy. But even when I wasn't getting paid good now. I'm in a really, really good spot. I'm happy. But even when I wasn't getting paid as much and I thought I wanted more, it's like I was still just grateful that I could fucking go out there, do what I love to do in front of millions of people and still make money on brand deals, merch, other stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:37 And I knew if I kept winning, I'd get to the point to where I'm at now where I'm making good money. I want you guys to make even more. Yeah, I would love that. And not all the guys are going to be. You should pay me then. I'm at now where I'm making good money. I want you guys to make even more. Yeah, I would love that. And not all the guys are going to be... You should pay me then. I'm good. I do. I pay you $79.99. I appreciate that. I buy every fight.
Starting point is 01:35:53 I mean that. I do too. Okay. You pay yourself? I probably won't buy the fight that I'm on. Actually, I might after because I have to go watch it back, like that last Aljo fight. I had to go pay for it to watch it back. Actually, no, I did not take that back. Well, to watch the whole fight because they post that shit everywhere.
Starting point is 01:36:10 That was the first time they've ever done that. If your fight is really good, you don't have to buy it. Yeah, that was the first time they've ever done that. They posted on Twitter. Oh, the knockouts. YouTube. That was crazy. That was crazy. Remember that shit?
Starting point is 01:36:23 They want you to be the guy, bro. They want you to be the guy. That's why they put the knockout everywhere. That's why they fixed the fight for Aldo to get knocked out. Oh, God. But low-key, that's kind of what I fuck with
Starting point is 01:36:39 the UFC is like, if they really wanted to protect you, they wouldn't feed you to Jan. Putting you up against Jan is like, let's see if this kid got it. Well, look at this. October, before I fought Peter Jan, he was ranked number one. Aljo was the champ. Who were the last two dudes I fought?
Starting point is 01:36:55 The number one dude and the champ. That's the thing. The narrative is fucked now. It's trial by fire. I do believe that in the UFC. And they're giving, To bring up Patty, he's fighting Tony right now. Now Tony's coming off of... Six.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Six losses in a row. Yes. Come on, bro. That's crazy. That is a lot. He's still dangerous. Everybody he lost to in the last six fights have been really fucking good.
Starting point is 01:37:19 That's the other thing. Yeah. But seven fight losing streak if he loses to Patty. I don't like this fight for Paddy I guess I don't know who else you give him why there's just not much upside I don't know I guess if you go out there
Starting point is 01:37:31 and he does beat Tony Tony's still a massive name people are connected with him he's one of the most enigmatic characters incredible legacy and there's going to be people going oh I want Tony to get a victory, go out on a band. There's going to be people going. Take out Patty.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Is that December? No. Is it December 16th? Dude, it's December 16th. Do we have to pull that card up? December 16th? Yeah. It's in Vegas. Yeah. That card is so sweet. You say Vegas, Vegas, and it always throws me off. It's like the third time. Yeah, you say
Starting point is 01:38:04 Vegas. Is that how they say it over there? Las Vegas? You're from Montana. It's crazy, right? He's a Montana boy. Wait, what am I saying? It's Las Vegas. You say Vegas.
Starting point is 01:38:13 You say Vegas. Yeah. How do you say milk? Milk. How do you say milk normal? Vegas. Garage? What about garage?
Starting point is 01:38:21 Garage. Garage. Garage. Who else do you want? Are you at the point where you could dictate what fights are on your undercard? No. I don't think so. I would like a big co-main event.
Starting point is 01:38:36 That'd be sweet. No, I mean like your guys, friends you train with. Like whenever Izzy fights, he's got other guys from the camp on it. I think we're getting there. I'm getting to a good point to where I can start getting my boys in the contender series, for example. I think we're getting there for sure. Like, are there younger guys that we should look out for that you train with that you think can really make it? Yeah, yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Well, there's guys already in the UFC. Marcus. That dude's fucking crushing it. Marcus. Marcus McGee. Okay. Kyler Phillips. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:02 That dude's a stud. Ezra Elliott. This dude was one of my main partners for Aljo. He's still trying to get a pro fight. It's hard for a lot of these guys that train at the lab or train at good gyms to get fights. Why? Because they see that you train with these guys or you have a wrestling background, as Ezra does. He's a good wrestler.
Starting point is 01:39:18 It's hard for these guys. Nobody wants to take that out. Yeah, it's hard. But the card's crazy. Leon Colby. Leon Colby is a huge fight. Who do you got in Leon Colby? God, dude, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:29 That's such a... Leon... I like Leon a lot. Leon's great. But Colby's just fun to listen to. He's a character. He's fucking loud. He talks shit.
Starting point is 01:39:36 It's interesting. It'd be crazy to be him at champ. But also, Leon's fucking dangerous. Yep. Alex Pantoja. I finished him in the first round. First friend, Roy Val. I haven't seen him fight.
Starting point is 01:39:46 How is he? I think he's stud. I think he's pretty good. Shavkat Rachmanov versus Stephen Thompson. Yeah, what do you think happens here? That Shavkat is no fucking joke, dude. Okay. Bro.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Stephen Thompson ain't either. If the country ends in Stan, dude, you're fucked. Yeah. Dude, I'm telling you. Dagestan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan. Shout out Imran. Hey. If it's got to stand, you're going to get beat up.
Starting point is 01:40:08 And what do we think over here? Tony versus Patty? I'm curious who it's going to be. No. Oh. Vincent Luque. Gary versus Luque. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Dude, that's a sweet fight. That whole fight is going to be... I'm doing an after party. I have a residency with Resorts World in Vegas. Vegas. Vegas. So I'll be having an after party. I have a residency with Resorts World in Vegas. Vegas. So I'll be having an after party there. I'm not even fucking fighting. But I'm going to be there for the after party.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Dude, this is a stacked card. Josh Emmett, Giga, Kazak's man. So wait a minute. Didn't Emmett just fight for the number one Ilya Tuporia, right? Oh, that's right. So he just fought for number one contender. Now he's the, what is it, sixth fight on the card? Seventh fight?
Starting point is 01:40:53 Yeah, bro. You got to, yeah, that's crazy. And Giga Chikadze, what do you think about his striking? He's very, yeah. Legit, right? Yeah, he's good. He's quick. Yeah, I like that guy.
Starting point is 01:41:02 So the whole card, yeah, stacked card, end of the year. Oh, this is going to be fun. Ended with a banger. This is going to be fun. Patty, I'm curious to see how he comes back. He's quick. Yeah, I like that guy. So that whole card, yeah, stacked card, end of the year. Oh, this is going to be fun. Ended with a banger. This is going to be fun. Patty, I'm curious to see how he comes back. What do you think? He was coming off that surgery. He's kind of acknowledged it wasn't a great outing for him.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Well, you can't deny that. You can't. Yeah. It was bad. He lost that fight. Yeah. But yeah, we'll see. Speaking of Vegas, you saw that ufo situation that happened
Starting point is 01:41:27 a couple i think it was a few months ago right i remember hearing about that yeah right which one then they tried to like interview them and then they wouldn't say shit so i heard you believed it who i heard you believe no i i want to i'm in the same i'm like that rogan kind of like i would love for that shit to be real but but it's just hard to... I listen to every Rogan UFO pod. I'll listen to it and they'll talk about the documentary. I'll go watch the documentary, like the one in Brazil.
Starting point is 01:41:53 I had dinner with Lazar. Did you? Yeah. Damn. Did you guys chat about it? Of course. I believe he believes he worked on AlienCraft. Really?
Starting point is 01:42:04 I believe he believes it. Okay. Meaning I don't think he worked on alien craft. Really? I believe he believes it. Okay. Meaning I don't think he's lying, but he might not have worked on actual alien craft. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. That makes sense. People can believe the things that they're saying, but that can also not be true.
Starting point is 01:42:18 What did you guys eat? A fogo de chow. Wow. Yeah. No, yeah, That could be true. You know, it's the steakhouse where you could put a little thing up. Green line. I didn't even know what that green line was.
Starting point is 01:42:34 I left that shit up. The fucking geek is kept over there. I'm like, don't strain your mouth. Any strip clubs here? You like the Rippers? I don't, but I might have seen some teddies. You should go to, what is it called, 10? It's the Kelly Rippers.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Sapphires. Sapphires still open? There was that one in Queens that was... Oh, no, if you want to get ratchet. I mean, like, because sometimes... You want to get ratchet? No, sometimes I go to... Most of the strip clubs I go to, I'm like, ew.
Starting point is 01:42:57 You know what I mean? And they're fucking on the thing, going like this, clapping their thighs. I'm like, bitch, I don't want to see your eyes clap. What do you want? Teddies. Oh, you want Teddies. Yeah. What do you want? You want titties. You want the milk. You want the mouth. But I also,
Starting point is 01:43:09 I feel like I have to be buzzed up at a strip club or else I'm kind of like, eh. Oh yeah, why am I here? Yeah. But my point.
Starting point is 01:43:17 White, black, Spanish, what's your flavor? All. Yeah. All. Bad bitch.
Starting point is 01:43:21 That's a bad bitch. That's a man right there. But I was just curious how the women are here. Not that you guys have been prior. Never. Never. But if you pretended you went once. Pumps.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Are they hot? Pumps in Brooklyn, that's like you get hipster Bushwick chicks. They got leg hair. No, I don't like that. No, but they're bad. What was the one in Queens that was popular? My wife randomly enjoys this. There's a few.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Really? Queens got all the Colombian chicks. We went to Rick's and Sapphire's. Riviera's is the one, right? Yeah. But there's also the one in the city. I would walk past one at Times Square. Walk past my hotel. That's not in Sapphire.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Flash Dancers. Really? That's good to know. What's the one that used to be called? Oh, my God. Quit pretending. No, it was like the famous one in the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:14 That fucking movie. Not 10s. What's the movie? Howard Stern used to talk about it all the time. On like 61st Street or 62nd Street by like 1st Avenue and 2nd Avenue.
Starting point is 01:44:27 It's not there by the bridge? No, no, no. Hustlers? Right by the bridge. The 59th Street bridge. Oh, that's where we went to checkmate
Starting point is 01:44:35 or Sapphire? You ordered food and then it's a steakhouse. We went there. Yeah, we went there. I love that place. When I was in Atlanta,
Starting point is 01:44:42 they kept saying, oh, you gotta go try the fucking wings at Magic City. Yeah. Why is there such good food there? Or do you just think it's good? I think you think it's good because you're rock hard. This is fucking delicious.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. And it's tiny, Magic City. Have you gone to Magic City? I've been. Is it Magic City, the one that's kind of tiny?
Starting point is 01:44:59 That's in Atlanta. The one in Atlanta. I don't think it was that tiny. Sapphire's is the one you're talking about. No, no, no. It's another one. That shit was crazy. It was one. Of course. That's the one in Atlanta. I don't think it was that time. Sapphire's is the one you're talking about. No, no, no. It's another one. That shit was crazy. It was one.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Score! Score! That's the one. That was the joint back in the day. Not anymore, huh? I mean, literally, the description of it, swanky steakhouse with plush seating. It is a steakhouse. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:19 And then a few strip clubs do this, but man. So you know how it works with the strip clubs with the finances and everything? The stripper's got to pay to work there, essentially. Oh, really? It's like a barbershop where you rent your table. Do you give them a percent or you pay? You tip out the DJ. You tip out the other people, basically.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Wow. It's usually one flat fee, and then you get whatever else you make that night. Interesting. Yeah, so what they would do is- I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. No, I wouldn't know. Oh, I wouldn't know. It's not like a guess.
Starting point is 01:45:46 I just heard it. They would have scores bucks. I'm pretty sure it's scores that would do this. In other places have done this before. So you would take your $1,000 and get you some scores bucks so you could tip the waitresses, et cetera. But they would charge you to get the scores bucks.
Starting point is 01:46:04 So the club is eating off of charging you, and they're eating when the strippers are paying to get their money back. Sounds like we need to go into business. That's what I'm talking about. It's like Dave and Buster's, dude. 100%. Sugar Shoals. Yo.
Starting point is 01:46:17 Sugar Shoals Strip Club. And steaks. Do we want some steaks in there? Sugar Shoals and steaks. And the worst part of that, you switched over all your money for scores bucks Scores and then head back the next night
Starting point is 01:46:39 But your girl might find the scores books, you know She finds singles you can say my wife on her 30th after was like, let's go to the strip club. We got a table. Fire. Sure. There was like a 15. No, you were invited. There was a club and then we went afterward.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I forget what the club, the lobby or whatever. But yeah, the credit card receipt, it was like a $1,500 charge. And it was from some random thing. They don't say Sapphires or bricks. They put it in a snitch. Yeah. So don't say Sapphires or Ricks. They put it in his life. They're not snitching on you. Yeah, that's the... Tony's our body.
Starting point is 01:47:07 So I'm looking at the car the next week, like, what the fuck clubhouse did he spend $1,500 on? Who stole my credit card? You know. And then it turns out the strip club's just not gonna snitch on you. You snitched on yourself.
Starting point is 01:47:17 You called the bank. You're like, I'm disputing this. Yeah. It's disgusting. Well, that's like one time I went to a strip club and they only gave us $2 bills. Huh?
Starting point is 01:47:23 And then I had hundreds of $2 bills in my backpack. Why? Because you're queer as a $2 bill? Yeah, literally. It was a gay club. But then I went home and my girl was like, why do you only have $2 bills? I was like, ah, just collect them. The funniest thing was Mark getting charted up for the lap dance. You remember that? When?
Starting point is 01:47:37 You know, the dancers harass you for a lap dance? Oh, dude, she got so pissed. I hate when they have it. This girl came up to mark and she was like do you want to dance and he was like ah we're actually about to leave and she's like okay i'll walk you out and he's like oh okay well we're actually not gonna go anywhere i'll live here for a while and she's like okay do you want to dance he's like ah i'm actually out of money and she goes okay well the atm is right there and he goes uh actually i just don't
Starting point is 01:48:02 want to dance i don't know how those girls can do that because I've seen that happen too. They're shameless. She told him afterward, I hope you enjoyed the free show. Yeah, she gave him so much attitude. She goes, I hope you enjoyed the free show. Usually they can spot a mark. Literally. But the way she was dissing me, I got bricked up, dude.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I was like, yelling at me again? Goddamn. Margo was kicked out of the strip club when we went to one. When we were in... Jacking off in the corner? No, you would think it was that. Jacking off on stage. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:48:30 He was balling up his ones, and then he was doing like hook shots and jump shots. They were fadeaways. Baseball pitches. Baseball pitches. That's not how you would do a fastball. He was cocking up the leg. He was cocking up the leg. Oh, Randy Chubb just
Starting point is 01:48:46 The girl was Dominican. I thought she had a fucking She could hit it. Bro, I took him to a strip club and I gave him, I don't know, a couple hundred dollars and then I look over and I'm like, where is Mark?
Starting point is 01:48:54 And he's at the bar of it and he's building a little house out of the dollars. Son. Son. You're a retard, bro. But what did the girl do? Remember what the girl did
Starting point is 01:49:05 she comes over fully naked it's only non-nude bar or full nude bar in Tampa and she just does a full split and fucking crushes
Starting point is 01:49:11 the house with a pussy fucking building 7 on my shit I was pushing building 7 speaking of I was in the
Starting point is 01:49:17 world trade center today no you weren't yeah well one world trade one world sorry yeah yeah I fucked that up
Starting point is 01:49:23 but I was kind of spooky, honestly. That was a little wild. Yeah, the vibes are weird. It is a little... Yeah, I kept looking out the window. Are there businesses in it? So it's just... Oh, GQ is in that?
Starting point is 01:49:35 Was I supposed to say that? I mean, I think it's fine. I mean, it's a big building. Yeah, it has a... I won't say they were on the floor. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, that was crazy. I'm like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:49:44 If I had to pick to jump out this window or burn, like that fucking was fucking with me. Crazy, right? My brother saw people jumping out.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Are you serious? He was in middle school. His middle school was a few blocks away. Fuck. He was like calling home to see if he could get picked up. Like, put a trampoline out there.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Yeah, no way. Would you hit a gainer? What's a gainer? What's a gainer? What's a gainer? What's a gainer? What's a gainer? When you run forward and you jump backwards off. Like a backflip? Would I backflip out of the building?
Starting point is 01:50:17 You know what's so funny about that? Nothing. No. This is what's funny. This is what's funny. I thought if I had to jump off to something to my death, like if I just didn't have a choice, you might as well flip. That's my thought process. That's why I asked the question.
Starting point is 01:50:32 I was like, fuck, I could probably hit a sick gainer. You go gainer, you do front flip, or do you try to like slow it down a little bit? But you're already going to jump. There's no question. You're jumping. Yeah. What do you do? I'm cannonball, eyes closed, hoping.
Starting point is 01:50:46 You're cannonball, man. Same way. You know you're going to die. I'm probably aiming for people to break my fall. You're in the plane. You're like this. What an answer from the Jew who really didn't know.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Okay, listen, Shuga, before we get out of here, we know that you have a fight against Cheeto. You're damn right. Okay. Is there any last words to the best-dressed man in the UFC that you'd like to say? I think you should go to the strip club tonight. All right.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Oh, he's talking to himself. That was cold. That was motherfucking cold. That's it. Sugar Sean, don't fucking fall. The motherfucking champ is in the building. Thank you.

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