Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - That Mexican OT on Dads Prison Stories, Real Meaning of Johnny Dang, & Quitting Rap to Cowboy

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

What up people, we got That Mexican OT in the studio today to talk about growing up in prison, the real meaning of Johnny Dang, & hutting hogs from his helicopter. This is a wild one. INDULGE! 00:00 ...Intro 00:40 MexicanOT loves trampolines 02:06 Cali paranoia 10:32 Prison taught OT’s father to politic 13:38 Whites are AMAZING + fatties can gobble 16:40 Percs + grillz 19:13 OT loves Coke & fishing 21:53 Helicopter hunting + lunatics & gators 24:36 Wild c0k3 story 26:54 Stopped drinking + girl slutted OT out 29:59 Gnarly internet videos + Post Nut Clarity 33:38 Beating that meat + getting tricked 39:16 OT mani-pedis + slutted out 42:46 Seeing crazy stuff + mom was a G 45:08 Father is his biggest fan 46:30 Musicality to rapping + early raps 49:30 Making notes of ideas 50:03 Loving Hopsin, Big L, Nas 52:42 Growing up with cowboys 55:01 Genuinely loving hip hop 57:23 Collabs in the future + Jelly Roll? 58:24 Dream feature 59:28 New Song Exclusive 01:01:36 Musicality, rhythm of the lyrics + teaming up 01:06:19 OT doesn’t belong to one genre 01:07:34 Comfortable with success + family asking for money 01:10:55 People looking at you + Haters 01:13:13 Russ + being too famous for groupies 01:15:34 OT doesn’t wanna travel 01:16:17 Aliens + scared of the water 01:20:11 Voodoo, NOLA is Canadian 01:22:00 Disconnection + chip on his shoulder 01:23:57 Connection w/ father + backflip + sports 01:32:45 What is OT doing at 50? 01:34:14 Trying to look like a rapper + authenticity 01:36:36 Learning to like yourself 01:39:18 Closest family + spending time 01:43:46 Having kids + intuition + game 01:50:20 Next song + Lucha Libre + skateboarding 01:54:54 Escaping the police pissing himself 02:00:34 Been arrested + pooing on the road

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I always got an onion on me. And I got a uh... What the fuck is happening right now? I actually had this girl that flooded me out. You were an innocent little boy? Yeah. And then what'd this girl do? Bad things.
Starting point is 00:00:12 What type of bad things? She ate it then she... Next thing you know my leg's in the air. I felt like she was gonna put me in missionary. Bro, in Chiraq this dude died in the ops. The ops, that sounds so stupid. I had a homeboy named Cameron Pye. He really wasn't my homeboy. He was my camp-fuck homeboy.
Starting point is 00:00:29 But this motherfucker was legally lunatic on papers. And I seen... Hey, look. Listen. Scott. Listen. Scott. I promise to you, bro.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It was gone. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flaygur. Today, we are joined by a guest that I am so excited to have here, man. I'm excited to be here. We got that Mexican on the team. Let's fucking go. What's going on, baby? Okay, tons to talk about.
Starting point is 00:00:54 First thing I got to say is I've been watching a lot of pods and interviews with you, you know, so I can get acquainted. And you will say some shit in these interviews that is so unintentionally funny. Yes. You will say some shit in these interviews that is so unintentionally funny. Yes. Okay? Like, I don't know if you're trying to make them laugh, and I don't know if they know, but I'm fucking howling.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yeah. Okay? There's one, I think it was on Rap Radar. You were like, man, you know what? I don't need that much. I don't care how much money I get. You go, I don't need that much. You go, all I need is two acres, a double-wide trailer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And then you said this, and a trampoline, bro. Hey, bro, I promise you, since kids, bro, we always had the trampoline and the pool, you know? But you don't need the pool. You have the tramp. At 24, are you on the trampoline still? Plus the backflips all day. No way.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Bitches like that shit, bro. Usually you put the bitches on the trampoline because you see the titties shaking, but you were like, No way. Bitches like that shit, bro. Usually you put the bitches on the trampoline because you see the titties shaking, but you were like, no, let me show you backflips. Yeah, yeah. I'll show you my titties. I got to show off. Watch this backflip, bitch.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So that's making it in life. Two acres, double wide, and a trampoline. I'm chilling. 100%. Chilling. Hell yeah, for sure. so before we start the pod i go how you feel moving in new york and you're like i'm be honest it's a little different because and then you started telling me the amount of guns that you usually drive yeah in texas with hell yeah two ar in the passenger seat ar in the back seat my pistol on my
Starting point is 00:02:22 lap every time every time what if you're just going to buy like whenever i when i leave without AR in the passenger seat, AR in the back seat, and my pistol on my lap. Every time. Every time. What if you're just going to buy a new truck? Like, when I leave without it, I'm like, man, what the fuck is not here? You got to pack your wallet and your AR. I leave my wallet before I leave my gun. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:35 Hell yeah. So do you feel... Wallet, cell phone, gun. That's his checklist. I promise to you, every time. 100%. 100%. Do you ever feel...
Starting point is 00:02:42 Okay, what if you're going to do something that you cannot get shot at? Man, I put that between my ass cheeks right under my nuts. So you would grab your gun to go get like a frappuccino from Starbucks or something? Man, I'm in church with my gun. Stop it. Who's going to run funny in church? Buddy, this is a Texan, man.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm telling you, this is a Texan. I promise you. Bro, in Chi Rec, this dude died in the ops. The ops, that sounds so stupid. The opposition. The people that he got beef with, thank you, bro. The people he got beef with went into his funeral and stole the casket with the body in it. So I don't give a fuck about none of that.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Motherfuckers ain't out here friendly. You know what I'm saying? Fuck that. So now you're in New out here friendly. You know what I'm saying? Fuck that. So now you're in New York. How'd you sneak in the guns? Remember you told me before the pod, you're like, yeah, we snuck in all the guns? Nah. Just get them arrested.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So what are you doing for safety? Do you even feel safe? Hell yeah. Like I said, when I'm in California, I feel like everybody out to get me. Everybody. Why is that? I don't know, bro, because in California, I just feel like California, like I love California.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I love my fans out there, but it's not a place for me to be. It's just not for me. You're stressing. Yeah. I overthink too much. Me, I already know it as a bad place. What if I took you to a bounce house and just let you jump around a little? Yeah. Yeah, like I just, I overthink too much. And like me, I already know it as like a bad place. What if I took you to a bounce house and just let you jump around a little?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could jump all day, dude. The ops might be jumping over there. You get shot in a bounce house? You can dodge it. You can dodge it. It's so much easier to get like a backflip. Backflip like the Matrix, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Bust one off. That's easy. That Mexican OT avoids murder via bounce house double backflip. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah, I wonder if, like, you start to get, like, your safety becomes dependent on the gun. It definitely does. Because when I have a gun, which is never, but when I shot one at, like, one of the gun ranges, my security went up
Starting point is 00:04:46 because my baseline is no gun. Right. So once I had one, I was like, ooh, I feel like a superhero. This is incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Especially when you're good with it. Yeah, yeah. He's not good. Nah, that shit goes back. You got to train wrists or something. Yeah, nah, I mean, I got to train wrists, bro,
Starting point is 00:05:04 because that shit goes back. Yeah, how do you keep it from doing that if you want to for me to hit the bulls down shoot say what what kind of gun did you shoot yeah you got the right to do that kickback was crazy that's why yeah fat motherfucker that's what yeah, yeah. I had a fat motherfucker. Yeah, like me, bro. I'm chilling. Like, I just, I like it about palm size. And I already don't got big hands, so like, you know, like I said, the Hellcat Pro.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Shout out Springfield 9mm Hellcat Pro. So the whole gun is fitting right here? Yeah, yeah. Do you ever, like, I'm not going to ask you if you've shot somebody, but is there ever a part of you that's like, that'd be kind of fun? Yeah. Hell yeah. I was kind of sure answering it, but yeah, man. Like, fuck yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like, if they ran up in your house, they were trying to rob you. Because I knew, I'd be like, we grew up shooting paintballs at each other, so that was fun. Just imagine a fucking, you're seeing, like, imagine doming somebody and somebody in like cuz I've heard military stories like this dude sniped It's one dude and like he saw the bodies kick the legs kept moving But I like his whole chest and up was like gone like a chicken with the head cut off right, but he's still walking Yeah, so like I bet that shit's wild I say it is Definitely bro It's while they shoot Someone's head off
Starting point is 00:06:29 And they keep moving Yeah dude Yeah I don't know man I don't know if I could do it I mean if they were Running at me with guns Or something like that Definitely
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah Protect the family Yeah without a doubt But I'm not a savage like that I can't just You know what they did In New York sometimes In some of the projects uptown?
Starting point is 00:06:46 They would freeze the paintballs. Oh, yeah. The night before, yeah. Me and my kinfolk do that. Really? That's some hoe-ass shit, but we definitely did that. But the nice thing about the projects in New York
Starting point is 00:06:58 is that everybody walks by your building. It's not like if you live in a house somewhere, it's rare. It's your neighbors walking by, so you can't shoot your neighbors, but it's tourists walking by or whatever, so they're just right out the window
Starting point is 00:07:08 sniping people, frozen paintballs. That's some hoe-ass shit. Yeah. Yeah, but I bet it was fun for him. Good times. Good times.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Yeah, for sure. Damn, bro. Two ARs in the car, man. Yeah. Hmm. Have you ever had to pull the AR out? Yeah, hell yeah. And to get like a number
Starting point is 00:07:26 or something or like what do you do? Nah, just. Excuse me. Just, you know what I'm saying, motherfuckers just need some act right. No way. Yeah. Like someone pulled up? Nah, like, like, like there's been scenarios like where I've been around
Starting point is 00:07:41 cause I used to, we used to throw a lot of land parties. What's that? Like you just got acres because we used to throw a lot of land parties. What's that? Like you just got acres and- Field parties. Yeah, just field parties. Land parties. Get a bonfire going.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Hell yeah, be chilling, got the cars around, four wheelers out there, you know what I'm saying? Good music, everybody smoking. Anyways, there's a lot of motherfuckers over there. There's not even no gangs or shit over there. It's like, motherfuckers just be on drugs, tripping. You know, pills and shit like that. So they thinking they Superman.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I don't know. Like, the last thing I ever want to do is shoot you. I'm definitely going to beat your ass up. But I don't want to have to shoot you. And one time I didn't feel like fighting this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? I was like, I tried. Yeah, I tried.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah. I was like, look, bro, I'm not in the mood right now. I'm going to shoot you in your foot. And, you know what I'm saying? Like, he kept talking the shit. I pulled that big motherfucker out. Like I said, these guns, these guys look like they came from the aliens. So, like, you know, I got a titty on that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Titty's on that motherfucker. What does titty mean? The turnaround drone. 50 on 50. And then... You know the bullet drums? All the bullets... Like a Tommy gun
Starting point is 00:08:49 from the fucking... Yeah, but there's two. And I got them on an AR, AR-15. The circle shit at the bottom? Yeah, yeah. With the bullets.
Starting point is 00:08:56 That's just rounds. It just rotates with rounds. It's full of rounds. I didn't even know you knew this. I just learned through osmosis or whatever being in Texas.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Pull that motherfucker out. He saw eyes went big and shit like that. Where were you hiding the gun if it has the big circle thing? I wasn't hiding it. I put that bitch like... I'll bet from his angle, I look like fucking CJ off San Andreas. Just pulling it out my ass. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:18 But in all reality, the truck was right here. So I pulled it out the bed of the truck and was like, Hey, bitch. And then what'd he do? He froze up and, you know, of course started acting right and shit and shit, but you know what I you know a lot of 90s You have you seen don't be a menace to South Central of course that that scene with Marlon where they do we Definitely I mean shit you got to get like that sometimes you know that I forgot who I was talking to about it, but uh Homeboy homeboy, and oh it had to have been somebody in Cali because he was like, I feel like guns is going to be good here.
Starting point is 00:09:48 You know, because I'm telling them, Texas, we got guns and shit like that. He was like, yeah, I feel like it's going to be good because some motherfuckers might die, but it's okay. Because you have to have examples. You have to have examples. There's a perfect moment of you in an interview trying to say some serious shit. Just clip that right there. Some motherfuckers might die, but it's okay. For real.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Because examples have to be made. It's kind of like you go to jail. If this motherfucker fuck with you, I have to knock you out. Because if I don't, this motherfucker going to see it and he going to try and fuck with me. Then he this motherfucker gonna see it and he gonna try and fuck with me. Then he gonna see it and he gonna try and fuck with me. Bro, that's why I think... So I feel like some bodies might drop for sure, but motherfuckers gonna be like, oh, they got guns. Okay, let's not play. Just treat society like prison.
Starting point is 00:10:34 That's basically it. But no, because... Yeah, basically. I mean, shit, my dad came out and he was like, prison taught me how to politic with everybody. Oh, wow. Everybody. He said, that made me a political-ass motherfucker. I came out and became a beast. Interesting, because in order to survive there,
Starting point is 00:10:48 you can't just- And he's solo. He wasn't gang affiliated, so- Oh, so he got really politic. Oh, wow. You see what I'm saying? But my dad, he's always held it like, bro, my dad, I fell from that nigga nuts with the energy he got.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And like, for real, bro. For real, bro. I fell from a great-ass sack of nuts, man. He's cooking, my boy's cooking. That my dog, bro. For real, bro. I feel from a great-ass sack of nuts, man. He's cooking my voice. That's my dog, bro. Okay, go on. That's my dog. So, like, he just got this energy, and, you know, people already respect him, and the way he carries himself, you know, he just comes correct.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So a lot of people respect him. Like, there were some people that, like, everybody wanted him to be down, and he'd be like, you know, with all due respect, I love, you know, what you got going on. I respect it, but it's not for me. And one time somebody was like, oh, I thought you was somebody. My dad was like, I am somebody. Whoa. Yeah. And, like, you know, just from him, like, sticking up and, like, you know, being who Chuck is, you know, he got a lot of respect in that.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But, you know, he definitely learned how to be a political ass motherfucker. Did he ever say he was scared in there? Hell yeah. Every day. Really? I'm sure as shit. You know what I'm saying? There be a political ass motherfucker. Did he ever say he was scared in there? Hell yeah. Every day. Really? I'm sure as shit. You know what I'm saying? There ain't no way you can't be.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, you got to be in that motherfucker watching your back 24-7. Did he tell you that, though? Hell, bro. I'm sure. Because he's told me a lot of crazy ass stories. He saw, like, he heard, he was in his cell, and he heard, like, a basketball game. Like, all the shoes, like, you know, all the shoes squeaking and shit, and the next thing you know
Starting point is 00:12:07 somebody just falls. He said his head busted like a watermelon. I mean, that's a concrete floor, that makes sense. Yeah, you fall from about three, four stories. And that's why you need trampolines in prison. Yeah, exactly. Think about that. Think about that. Exactly. Let's keep going.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, and they keep fighting. I feel like if they had trampolines. I feel like if they had trampolines in prison, I think it'd be good. Kind of like how they try to make football teams. I think they can have some... A trampoline team. Good play time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's what's happening with me, bro. Just chill out. That's really how we squash the beef, man. Yeah, definitely. Bro, because that weight shit, motherfuckers are getting their heads squished by 45-pound plates, you know? Oh, because they're fighting with it.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, fuck, yeah, I'm sure, yeah. Bro, that's a vulnerable thing to do. And then people in prison, the trustees. What's that mean? All right, when you become a trustee, you've worked your way up being trustable. You can drive the tractors. You can go out there,
Starting point is 00:13:04 and you're serving the food in theable. You can drive the tractors. You can go out there and you're serving the food in the kitchen. You just have good jobs, so you get a little easier. The house niggas. I didn't want to say it, but he said it. The house niggas. It's low. You gain some respect. A lot of them are white.
Starting point is 00:13:19 If you're in prison, that would be payback. That's how it works. You know what I'm saying? Like, those motherfuckers, you should not trust. Make the food, Donald. But if white people were slaves, too, they would probably have them in the house. You know what I mean? Like, they wouldn't put them in the house.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I don't know how true this is, but I was told that the first black slave owner was a black man. I don't know how true that is. I wish I was educated in Texas, bro. That's just so much better. Texas history is so much better. Texas history is awesome. That's so much better. Black people started it. Y'all made it trendy, and we're like, ooh, okay. White people just always steal from black people.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That's what it is. We just copy all their shit. Okay, so what's up with the trustees? I don't know. White people got it going on, man. Right, though? I think y'all killing some shit. We got girls with the fattest asses, for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Pinkest pussy. That's true. There's no pinker. Hey, y'all know Uncle Ruckus? Yeah. I always say that, I say, thank God for the white women. Are they throwing it at you now? Huh?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Are they throwing it at you now? Okay, even beforehand, I've always loved white women. But hey, as I got older, I saw like a lot of black women loved me as a kid, and I was like, no, like I don't want that. And as I got older and looked back a lot of black women loved me as a kid and I was like no like I don't Want that and as I got older look back at I'm like To mature into it yeah like so then I've never had a white women Why women that's it for young
Starting point is 00:14:44 He never tasted it. He never seen that pink, bro. Lucky for me, I was fat and ugly when I was a kid, so they didn't like me. It is a whole different ballgame. Who gives the best head? Which race? I feel like all fat hoes, dude. It's not even a race thing.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Fat hoes are a race, yo. Fat hoes are a race. You seen them on a trampoline, bro? That's just crazy. Dude, I'm sorry. You got to laugh. You got to laugh. Fat hoes on a trampoline, bro? No, they can break it, dude. You got to laugh. You got to laugh. Fat hoes on a trampoline, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Oh, Christ. No, they can break it, dude. You got to get, yeah. That's risky. That's how they get oil out of it. You can hear it spray. Fuck, dude. So fat hoes, you think, give the best head?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Man, they eat that. It look like they sneeze on it. Ah, shit. Oh, man. Get in a nice sneeze, bro. Get in a nice sneeze. I promise you, bro. Get in a nice sneeze. You should have allergy reactions.
Starting point is 00:15:29 You ever had a woman fully put all the amount in liquid balls? That's when I was like, whoa. Yeah, it's different. And sneeze at the same time? Yeah, you say, bless you. That is amazing. It is different. But also, it's like,
Starting point is 00:15:39 you got to act like it's a struggle a little. Don't do it too easy. Like the girl, I don't want you to just make me feel like this goes down easy. Yeah. She's all talking with it in her eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:52 You wanna go to the movies later? It's like, I need that. Yeah, definitely. At least fake it. Yeah, fake it. I think women don't understand the importance of faking it sometimes. Announcement.
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Starting point is 00:16:45 And then I fucking, you know, I nutted everywhere. And she goes, oh, I'm sorry, papi. I didn't nut. I popped a perk. And I was like, bitch, I don't give a damn. Why you telling me this? It's like the biggest turnoff that I was ever told. Sorry, I didn't nut.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I popped a perk. This traumatized him. It really fucked you up. What does perks do? What do they do? I guess they make you go. I don't know. Bro, I took a perk once.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I told a girl I loved her. Oh, shit. Because I did it for a dental reason. Oh. I had like a- Was she your dentist? Yeah. You told the oral hygienist you loved her?
Starting point is 00:17:16 I immediately came out of it. I love you, doc. No. No, it was- Yeah, I had a tooth removed or something like that, but I was feeling so warm and fuzzy and amazing. But, yeah. Yeah, I got a tooth right now that's shattered.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I got to get off while my teeth pull the wisdom because I never got them pulled out. I always had room. So, like, they would never fuck my teeth up. But now I think I grind my teeth in my sleep. Do the grills fuck it up? No, hell no. Like, do you have the same, like, I need to keep my teeth as white as possible because I don't have something covering them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I mean, shit, there's places you can get them whitened. You know, you can go to the dentist and get them whitened. My buddy, my buddy, he did like two sessions of it. I know, bro. I'm not from Texas. What I'm saying is you're walking around every day and you got these beautiful grills in so you don't have the same pressure and motivation to keep your shit white. If my teeth aren't white, everybody's going to see that.
Starting point is 00:18:10 If his teeth aren't white, everybody's going to say, oh, he's got yellow teeth. You can have yellow teeth under there. Nobody cares. Did you ever feel it? When I pull them out, do I feel shit on my teeth? Are you ever like, I got to brush. I got to keep this shit. Really? Hell yeah. I feel like that all the time, especially
Starting point is 00:18:25 because I smoke a lot. Not only do I smoke, I smoke these woods. Shout out to Slapwoods. But I smoke woods. I thought this was a New York thing, the backwood. Backwood? Yeah. We do Dutchess. Yeah. And Opimos. Brooklyn is backwards. And I ain't gonna lie,
Starting point is 00:18:42 y'all fuck me up when I find out about Spliffs. Wait, why? Because I— You like the tobacco in it a little bit? I mean, I guess because this is tobacco, but I'm not going to put gravel. Or what do y'all call it? Gravel? No, tobacco.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Tobacco and weed is a spliff. Yeah, fuck that. Or what's the shit that's made out of the tar that's made out of the resin? Yeah, gravel. Look at it in Europe. Isn't that what it's called? Gravel or something? There's another name for it. Hash. Hash. out of the resin. Yeah, Grabo. Look at it in Europe. Isn't that what it's called? Grabo or something? There's another name for it.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Hash. Hash. Hash. Rosin. Yeah. Yeah, I like rosin, not so much of hash. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:13 You're 24 years old. Cocaine, love cocaine. Wait, what? Yeah. Well, see, I was going to ask a different question, but now we go to the cocaine.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Dude, one time, listen, I was on, shout out West Columbia, shout out to all my country boys. This is when I drank and I used to drink with my white boys. now we go to the cocaine. Dude, one time, listen, I was on shout out West Columbia, shout out to all my country boys. This is when I drank, and I used to drink with my white boys. They used to get me fucked up. So listen, it's like, well, at first, I'd be like, how the fuck
Starting point is 00:19:33 are they drinking all night and, like, staying up? It'd be like midnight. I'm like, fuck. Then I discovered what cocaine was. What was that first night, the first time you did cocaine? What happened? I think what cocaine was. What was that first night, the first time you did cocaine? What happened? I think I punched myself. Yeah, I was fucking tweaked.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Your own worst enemy sometimes. Yeah, that'll happen. So look, anyways. How old were you? Oh, man. Maybe a freshman. How old were you? Freshman in high school.
Starting point is 00:19:59 14 years old. Yeah. Okay. Something like that. I remember being in school. Me and my buddy, we'd be passing the fucking look like the 20-second underneath the stalls Sitting in there like we're shitting and fucking Coke in school
Starting point is 00:20:13 I had a homegirl. I had a homegirl that I said next to him She always had like she was very pretty but for some like we just never hit on each other. We were always cool and Man I mean cocaine with her in class. We was in the corner of the class. She'd fucking pull her nail out like that. Did it make you better at school? Yeah, we'd raise in your hands. This is why he thinks black people start slavery.
Starting point is 00:20:37 They start. It's his fault. Who the fuck is that guy? Oh, shit. Coke in class is crazy. That is like a thing. His parents never gave him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah. So easy. Yeah. And it's raw, bro. I remember one time I was fishing. Me and my buddy Billy were fishing, hitting cocaine. I came back, and I remember I took like- Cocaine while fishing might be crazier than cocaine.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Fishing is cocaine. No, literally going fishing. I mean, my grandpa used to cut grass and sip drink together. That makes sense. Yeah. But cocaine and fishing feels like it doesn't go together. Hell yeah, because I'll be out there like this, just waiting.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Just waiting. Staring at the pole. I know ain't nothing getting past me. Bro, you don't got to do nothing, bro. It doesn't have to get past you. I never knew one person who did coke to sit still. Do it, coke to sit still.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I'm sure I'm not sitting still. I'm sure my leg like that, but I'm full on focused. Like, I'm fishing. Did you catch any fish? Hell yeah. Gar. Eight foot gar. Eight foot gar. Six foot gar.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Oh, really? Smack that bitch back to my cousin Homer and he cook it. Wow. But we be hog hunting. You know what I'm saying? I saw you in the helicopter.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah, hog hunting. Fire. So, okay, I thought that this is like a novelty thing. That's a real thing you can do in Texas? Can you explain that?
Starting point is 00:22:00 They want you to. Yes. We got land, so we just go wherever our land's at and they be out there. You know what I'm saying? That was my first time actually going in a helicopter. Normally when we go,
Starting point is 00:22:10 I be in the bed of the truck and Kenfolk driving and we right here. And anytime you see a pig, game over. Game over. Because they're a nuisance. They fuck up people's land, they fuck up crop, you know what I'm saying? They're out there, like they just, it's for destruction, thank you. It fuck up crop. You know what I'm saying? They're out there. They're just for
Starting point is 00:22:25 destruction. Thank you. Just for destruction. So the government is basically saying, yo, you can kill these motherfuckers however you want. Yeah. And are you selling them? Are you cooking them? Sometimes. We just leave them there. Get out of here. Yeah. And then the other animals just come and devour them. The cycle of life.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Damn right. Feed the alligators. Damn right. You guys got gators? Hell yeah! I thought that's a Florida thing. See, I didn't know that. Bro, our Gulf of Mexico was infested with gators because all of our rivers flow into the straight of the mouth of the Gulf. That's why our beach
Starting point is 00:22:57 is so dirty. Hmm. Alligators everywhere. We'd be golfing over there in Bay City and there'd be alligators on a golf course. I've seen that, but I always thought it was just a Florida thing. I had a homeboy named Cameron Pye. He really wasn't my homeboy. He was my kinfolk homeboy. But this motherfucker was legally lunatic
Starting point is 00:23:14 on papers. Scott. Scott. Scott. I promise to you, bro, he was gone. Legally lunatic. On papers. He wasn't an illegal lunatic. There's. On paper. On paper, he was legally a lunatic.
Starting point is 00:23:26 He wasn't an illegal lunatic. There's a lot of illegal lunatics out there, Mark. This guy had a license to be crazy. You got to get crazy right now. I know. I have a permit. I got a badge, motherfucker. Like, bro, like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Like, he was on papers. Like, was in a loony house all day. Okay. Anyways, he just like a baby alligator. Probably about three. I promise to you. About three, however big, about three. It was about three feet.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And I remember he got on top of that hoe, and he tried wrestling it, and I was like... You got a lot of white friends, huh? So what happened with him? Nah, of course it fucked him up. He got scratches everywhere and shit, but it was a baby alligator. He jumped on that motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He put his hand on his head like this, jumped on the back, and it tried to ride, but it started turning, and then it just got away. An alligator can't run zigzag, but if it's running straight, that motherfucker gone. So it did that death twirl, whatever the fuck they call that shit, and it got away. Cameron fucking stupid, though. What happened to him? He probably somewhere. Oh, shit. I don't know. He's doing some wild shit.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Honestly, they need to lock that motherfucker up because he's crazy. What is the wildest thing you saw him do? Bro, all right. So look, we used to party hard. Me and my kinfolks, when we would go to parties, we wouldn't go to parties dressed up like this.
Starting point is 00:24:43 I'd have my shoes tied up to the max, shorts on, T-shirt, gym T-shirt. I'm ready to go beat a nigga up. You know what I'm saying? We'd go over there just on some fuck shit every time. You know what I'm saying? Hit that dust. And I used to be on shrooms, too. Bro, my body used to not know how to feel.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I used to be on cocaine, acid, fucking we used to I used to my body used to not know how to feel like I used to be on cocaine acid fucking and ecstasy at the same time exos like those little
Starting point is 00:25:10 I remember those dolphin ones those blue ones remember the blue ones that hit the hardest I remember we were in that phase anyways I wanted to tell you this cocaine story that I had
Starting point is 00:25:18 I was in the dove and I drank with my boys it was like 7 8 o'clock in the morning and Ty lived like three houses down from my grandpa. This is Cameron Ty, your friend. No, that's Cameron Pie.
Starting point is 00:25:29 This is Ty, Ty Griffin, but we call him Tyrone. And short-ass white boy, cuz I got little man syndrome. Anyways, I'm the only one left, right? And I know my grandpa's already up. I'm finna walk over there and go chill with him. And I'm like, I'm finna walk over there and go chill with him. And, I'm like, I'm gonna hit one more bump.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And I fucking, I always got an onion on me. And I got a, What the fuck is happening right now? What do you mean? Like an eight ball of cocaine. Oh, I thought you actually meant
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yo, come on, bro. Here's the way he paused for a second. He like, he believes, bro. It's a come on, bro. He's the way he pause. It's a cocaine story, bro. He can't walk around with a fucking onion if he wants to. It's a cocaine story. It's a Texan thing.
Starting point is 00:26:12 All right, go, go, go. This is Tech Window 2.0. I'm fucking hitting this hoe right, and I'm fucking, I just, I remember having a dust in my hand, and I look at it, and I just, I don't even remember falling. I think I blacked out, and boom, I woke up, and I was on I don't even remember falling. I think I blacked out and boom, I woke up and I was on the floor. I'm like fuck. I look to my left, I look to my right, I ain't seen nobody there.
Starting point is 00:26:33 And I'm like fuck, nobody can help me. I'm tripping, I'm like fuck. I look to my left and I see that Dutch nigga. I hear another line. Took my, got my bitch ass up, walked home to Grandpa's, smoked like a joint up some Reggie with him and went to bed. That was just a Tuesday for you?
Starting point is 00:26:52 For real. Shout out, Grandpa. You know what's funny? Shout out, Grandpa. The first thing I asked him when he came here, I was like, do you want something to drink? He goes, nah, man, I don't drink. He's not crazy. I can't get on that shit. That shit is wild. It's not that I can't get on man, I don't drink. He's not crazy. I can't get on that shit. That shit is wild.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's not that I can't get on it. I'm wild, and that's why I don't get on it. I just know my body. I know how I am, and I don't like how I act on it. Oh, you're a little more confrontational on alcohol than you are the drugs? I get mean, bro, on drugs. I just be happy. Like, give me a hug, man.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You know? Like, I'm friendly on that shit. Shrooms. I just want to smile. And who introduced you to that? I want to know more about the'm friendly on that shit. Shrooms, I just want to smile. And who introduced you to that? I want to know more about like the characters you grew up with. I actually had this girl that fucking slutted me out
Starting point is 00:27:30 and she fucking threw me on the shrooms. What you mean she slutted you out? You were an innocent little boy? Yeah. And then what did this girl do? Bad things. A lot of bad things. What type of bad things?
Starting point is 00:27:46 She ate it, bro? She ate it, bro. She ate it, didn't she? She ate it, bro. You remember the first time a girl eats your ass, bro? It changes everything. I was just finna say it. Like, next thing, my leg's in the air. It's crazy that you do that, right?
Starting point is 00:27:57 Because you would never think you would do it. I felt like she was going to put me in missionary. I was like, yo, what is this? But it's kind of nice though, right? When she went down for the first time, did you know what she was going for? Hell no. I didn't even know what she was doing until I really looked. I was like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I'm good. I'm good. No, I'm good. Thank you. You had to look. you had to investigate. I couldn't. I felt like I looked, and she put her hand on my chest like, lay down. Yeah, chill out, chill out.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Gave you the baby wipe. How old were you, how old was she? Because if you were like 15, and she was eating ass at 14, that'd be crazy. Nah, she was definitely older than me. She was like 21, 22 maybe. Oh, really? Yeah, she was grown, so I'm a kid, should let me that's what i'm saying yeah she took advantage of this guy that's what i'm thinking yeah yeah you probably did son you got molested you got molested
Starting point is 00:28:55 in your ass you're a victim and she put you on drugs shit wow okay so i'm not gonna say she molested me because it got to the point like i, I'd come home, and I'd be like, hey, do that thing. Yeah. Molest me again. Did she ever tell you not to? She was just like, I don't feel like it? Hell no. Interesting. Did you wash up before?
Starting point is 00:29:12 Like, did you take care of everything? Sometimes. Like, I tried to. Sometimes she just, like, threw me on the... Damn, and you were eating Mexican food all day and shit? She's eating vegan food. I probably wasn't eating at the time. She's eating Mexican food, too. I don't even think I was eating at the time.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, because you went vegan for her. No, hell no. My grandma can't cook for shit. I remember I used to have to put A1 sauce on the enchiladas. So I probably wasn't even eating a lot. And me rolling, I'm like, I don't want to eat. Give me something to smoke. So you had the cleanest asshole in Texas, and she found you,
Starting point is 00:29:43 and her passion was eating ass. I ain't going to say it was the cleanest, but I'd be sweating all day for so. It was definitely swamp ass down there. That's Texas. And she was going for it. Hell yeah. Dude. Yeah, I remember the first time I got my ass ate, and the second time I asked for it, and I got rejected.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Oh, fuck. That was brutal. I've seen this video. Fucking Slim Thug posted a video of these two couples. They was kissing, and the girl threw up in the dude's mouth. Oh, I saw that. That was gnarly, dude. How did someone get that on camera?
Starting point is 00:30:08 I was like, what an amazing. That's the setup, right? Nah, hell nah, bro. I don't know what video. There's no way. That shit looks real. They just making out. It's like a drunk couple.
Starting point is 00:30:15 They're making out, and then Shorty throws up in his mouth. Yeah, fine. And then they both spit it out. It's gnarly. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Don't pull that up, Mark. I mean, do it.
Starting point is 00:30:24 In an open carries day, how you not kill that bitch? How old were you when two girls in one cup came out? Spit it out. It's gnarly. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Don't pull that up, Mark. I mean, do it. In an open carry state, how you not kill that bitch? How old were you when two girls in one coat came out? Oh, yeah. You remember the first time someone showed you? Yeah. I remember I was like fucking dick in the hand ready. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:39 I'm like, fuck. And then next thing you know, I see her pull this cup and she shits in it. I was like. Yeah, you're like, what is going on over here? We were 24. Huh? You came right then? No.
Starting point is 00:30:49 No. That would have been a horrible time. 2008. Right? It's like you're jacking off your nut, right, when the camera goes to the dude. Yeah. You're like, yeah, bad timing, bad timing. Ah! Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:01 That was the first time I ever seen you. And then, like, I don't know about y'all, but every time I do it, I'll be like, I forgot to do that. So, like, you definitely regret it after that. Oh, you say you already regretting jerking off. Every time afterwards. Every single time. Every.
Starting point is 00:31:13 I've never jacked off in afterwards. It was like, yeah. The Bum Ass Cities tour is still going strong. First of all, we sold out every show at New York Comedy Club in August for our residency. Thank you so much. It's crazy how far in advance we did that. And special taping, there is one left. We opened up a fourth show in Houston, Texas at White Oak Music Hall. The show will be September 1st, so make sure you get your tickets for that because that will also sell out. Also, August 23rd, we're going to be in Indianapolis, Indiana. August 24th, Louisville, Kentucky.
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Starting point is 00:33:47 And I'm buying these motherfuckers, right? She's on my type. Boom, buy a new one. I'm knocking about eight out a day, right? My nanny, when I finally got caught, I heard my nanny talking to my papa downstairs. She was like, I was wondering why he kept sleeping with the door open. I mean, with the door closed. Yeah, fucking nanny.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Taking two-hour showers and shit, macking that shit down. What did your dad say? I mean with the door closed yeah yeah fucking that you know taking two hours and shit macking that shit down what'd your dad say what'd your dad say when he found out you spent a thousand dollars on porn
Starting point is 00:34:12 man he ate that shit up he liked it yeah hey well I'm talking about I'm in Austin he talking to this boy getting a haircut he like
Starting point is 00:34:18 tell him what you did were you embarrassed at all I mean at first I was but then I saw my dad laughing at it, so I was like, man, fuck it. I'm going to fuck it, you know? I had to give up my birthday money and Christmas money for that shit. That was the punishment? Yeah. To pay for it?
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, my poppin' was like, yeah, what the fuck? You think I'm paying for this shit? No. And was it on the computer you were buying it? No, on TV, like on Dish Network. Like in the living room? Yeah, downstairs, upstairs. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 How old are you? I turned 24. No, no, no. When this happened? Oh, I was fifth grade. Fifth grade. Fifth grade. 10, 11.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah, 10, 11. I remember knocking them hoes out before and after baseball practice. You know what I'm saying? Two days, yeah. Two days, yeah. Eight a day. I'm telling you what I said. I was buying them hoes.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Wow. And then, like I said, I'd buy one and be like, she's not my type, got to get another one. Yeah. Because you just have the name. You don't have pictures, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, back in the day, bro. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:12 It's changed now. And then I was fucked up when I found out that it came on for free at midnight or in the morning. That's how they get you, bro. But that's that soft porn shit. You don't even see dick and pussy. Like, bitch, I need... Oh, no, yeah, yeah. I don't's that soft porn shit. You don't even see dick and pussy. Like, bitch, I need... Oh, no, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't like that soft porn shit. You ever get tricked? You ever get tricked? What do you mean, tricked? Like, with a trans chick in a porn? Oh, fuck, no. You never got tricked? Oh, no, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Like, you clicked a porn and then a dick popped up out of nowhere? I mean, no, I don't think so. I like how you thought of that. Yeah, he went in there. Can't say I have. My boy, who will remain nameless, that you all know, this weekend, he goes,
Starting point is 00:35:52 all right, all right, all right, hypothetical. And you already know it's going to be crazy. He goes, he goes, he goes, he goes, okay. You just get in head, okay? The hottest trans girl ever or the ugliest girl girl ever. That's a fire. You just get in head. The hottest trans girl ever or the ugliest girl girl ever.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Let's put out in disgusting girl so we know what it looks like. Put one out. I mean, I'll just search one. Yeah, let's do that. How trans is she? No, it's the hottest trans girl. Does she have the parts? You're just getting hit, bro.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Damn, that's disrespectful. Yeah, don't show that. Come on, Mike. And there's other. That's like disformity. Or. Disformity. Disformity.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Disformity. Or one of these Not knowing I'll smack that down Not knowing yes, but here's the thing, you know knowing the hypothetical is you know but one is just Awful looking and the other is the hottest trance chick Man, fuck it. I'd go with the ugly hoe. I could do that. Now here's my other one, okay?
Starting point is 00:37:09 This is next level. Getting head. Trans dude or trans chick. Trans dude means born a woman, but now got a beard and everything like that, but got the vagina. And was born a woman, but now has a full beard. But it's technically a woman, right?
Starting point is 00:37:28 Or trans chick. Come on, bro. Right? Looks like the girl. Ain't no thing for me, bro. I like Indian girls. Little facial hair ain't hurt your boy. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:38 What's up? Okay, Akash. Alex, go. I'm good. What's up, Mark? That's crazy, bro. Come on. You got to answer, bro. Beard. She got a beard, bro. Okay, oh gosh Alex go I'm good. What's up? She got a beard, bro, I feel like we do that's a girl that's what yes. Yeah. Yeah, I like women So I'm gonna go with the am. I know. I speak for the group when I say this. All of us.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And I'm like, collectively, yeah. I mean, fuck, if you agreed with it, that was your shot, you know? What do you know for that one? Say what? What do you know? I ain't answering that gay shit. I know what I'm answering that gay shit for, bro. What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Oh, but you can ask it, right? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. No? I ain't answering that gay shit. I know what I'm answering that gay shit for, bro. What the fuck is wrong with y'all? But you can ask it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. No, I couldn't. The beard, nah, there's no way. There's no way, right? You can't do beard, bro. You can't put your dick in a beard.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm just saying. How? Are we talking like 5 o'clock? No, I'm talking Duck Dynasty, bro. Duck Dynasty. Duck Dynasty. Duck Dynasty. Oh!
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's Duck Dynasty sucking your dick. Nah, I see that. Yes, yes. Yeah, see? Oh, it's different now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Duck Dynasty sucking your dick. Now I see that. Yes. Yes. Yeah, see? Oh, it's different now. Yeah, oh, it's different now. This is a little 5 o'clock shout out. But this nothing but a Dominican.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yours should do yours. No, yours ain't even enough. It needs to be full fucking beard. No, your beard. I still like a lake of beard. Can you do your beard? I mean. Oh, god.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Nah. Yeah, there you go. Now you want to be gay. Now you want to be gay. there you go. Now you want to be gay. Now you want to be gay. Yeah, crazy. Now you want... You're not even really gay. You're not even really on that gay shit.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Do you see me? I'm about that life. Shut out the guys from here tonight. Excuse me. Come on, bro. And I see you guys. I like that. Nice little clear polish on your joints.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Oh, yeah. Girls don't like dirty fingers. Exactly. You see? You see? Real niggas here. You see that? But clear polish is different than queer polish.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Yeah, I don't know. Sorry, sorry, respect. What do you think of this, though? What's your take on that? I think he's doing a good job of it. There you go. There you go. If you like it, I love it.
Starting point is 00:39:37 If you like it, I love it. If you like it, I love it. Me right here, I just do it because I just like being clean. It looks clean. It looks sharp business-wise, you know? Yeah. Do you get your toes done, too? Hell nah. I do get my feet massaged. I get them clipped. I just like being clean. It looks clean. It looks sharp business-wise, you know? Yeah. Do you get your toes done, too? Hell nah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I do get my feet massaged. I get them clipped. I get them waxed. I get the dead shit. But you want to put a clear polish on? Nah. I did it once to see if I liked it, and I was like, fuck no, never again. Why?
Starting point is 00:39:58 Because I don't know, bro. I was just listening to this bitch, and she was like, yeah, you do it. And I was like, all right. listening to this bitch and she was like, yeah, how you doing? And I was like, all right. Son, the other funny shit you said in an interview, you're talking about the Johnny Dang song, right? You'd be like, yeah, he's a part of Houston culture,
Starting point is 00:40:14 blah, blah, and you just interrupt. I think it was, was it Boulay Kep? Maybe. Shout out to Boulay Kep. Yeah. But great interview. He goes, and then you go, yeah, the song really ain't about him.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's just about having Asian looking eyes when you're hot. Yeah, being hot. Yeah, and then you go, yeah, the song really ain't about him. It's just about having Asian looking eyes when you're hot. Yeah, being hot. I mean, yeah, honestly, but we're wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:40:33 But we got to get you a happy ending massage. Yeah. We were talking about that before. That was on your bucket list. We got those in New York. No, I don't want it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I want, dude, I want, I want. You want a dude? You did. Say that? He's got a trans talk to get you going, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:46 That's trans talk. Once it's started, bro. That's a slippery slope. The fantasy's right, yo. That's a slippery slope. Get your ass. Okay, so wait. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:40:54 Do you want to... I think, I want... I want to get ate up. I want a bitch to fucking eat me up, and then I just want to be laying there while I know that. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want that hoe to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. I don't want a bitch to fucking eat me up and then I just want to be laying there while I'm nothing. I don't want her to throw a towel on me and be like, clean yourself. You want them to tell you to clean.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah. Clean yourself. I'm trying to get bossed around a little bit. Nah, not bossed around. I just want a woman like that. I don't know. Yeah. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I don't want to be slutted out. You want to be slutted out because it happened to you at a young age. Yeah. So you're still crazy. Bro, you know what's crazy? Because, like, you know, when I'm fucking, I like choking. I like that shit.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I like when they push me away. And then, you know, I sat there and thought of it. Whoa. Clear that up. Consensually. Consensually. Lots of fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:42 There you go, boy. But you know what? There you go, my boy. There you go, boy. But you know what? There you go, my boy. There you go, okay? That is for you, my boy. If you like it, I love it. That's what he just said, bro. Nah.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He said, yeah, there you go. That shit. That shit that y'all do. I don't know. I don't know. So, shit. Anyways, I'm sitting here thinking. You like rough sex.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I think that's a better way to phrase it. There you go. Than them pushing you away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I like trampolines, because trampolines are like, get out of here. I'm like, get out of here. I'm like, get out of here. I'm like, get out of here. I'm like, get out of here. I'm like, I'm sitting here thinking. You like rough sex. I think that's a better way to phrase it. There you go. Than pushing you away. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:06 That's why I like trampolines, because trampolines are like, get out of here. I'm coming back. Oh, fuck. No, but yeah, then I was like, fuck, there was this movie that was recorded, and I remember I used to fucking masturbate to this scene, and there was this dude, and I guess they were fucking,
Starting point is 00:42:25 he had ran through, you know what I'm saying? And was basically fucking taking shit over. And then that's when I was like, damn, that's crazy. That's crazy how little shit you pay attention to
Starting point is 00:42:35 when you're a kid, it fucks you up like that older. I ain't gonna lie, I got this tattoo on my neck, and it's a circus clown, and two clowns right here smoking cigarettes. Other dude look crazy,
Starting point is 00:42:46 and I got it, because bro, I'm very polluted up here. Like, very polluted. You mean from drugs? Or you think it's from things he's observed? Yeah, everything. Bro, I remember, bro, my mom was like, there'd be people at my house fucked up. Fucked up.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Because, like, my mom and her man, they were dealing drugs, you know? Oh, really? Yeah, like, and I've people at my house fucked up. Fucked up, because my mom and her man, they were dealing drugs, you know? Oh, really? Yeah, and I seen a lot of fucked up shit, bro. This your mom or your stepmom? This is my real mom. My mom was a thug, bro. Really?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yeah, my mom would walk around Bay City, fucking ask me to run up on her, and she was like, where my money at? No. Yeah, bro, hell yeah. Were you with her? I mean, that's fire. I've been around her some crazy times.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I've been around her when she got into some fights, for sure. But for the most part, I was taken care of by my Uncle Mo, my Tia Sam. Because my Tia Sam was younger than them. So they would come over there, and they'd come hang out. And my mom was having me at a young age, so she would be out still being a kid. My mom was crazy as fuck, though. My cousin Homer said one time out there, my mama had smacked him in the back of the head
Starting point is 00:43:53 with a fucking brick of cocaine, you know? He was like, yeah. He was like, you know, where that shit at? And she was like, man, it's over there. And he was like, where? And she, because, you know, she's not a morning person, I guess, she got up irritated as fuck. Yeah, bitch, smacked him on the head with it
Starting point is 00:44:06 That's what she was selling mostly cocaine. Yeah, crack crack coke and crack no fear Man, my mama was fucking wow she was savage like five three really yeah, and what? Do you talk to your family about that like how does she have the courage to do it? It's just such an odd position for a woman to be in where she's gonna be like an enforcer to she from She from Palacios in Bay City. You know what I'm saying? You have no choice but to,
Starting point is 00:44:29 especially at that time, you had to, you know, you got to be, there's a man-eat-man out there. It was that crazy. Yeah, women was getting
Starting point is 00:44:35 picked up off the tracks, beat the fuck up and wrapped under the bleachers at the football field. Get out of here. I promise you that. I'm sure that's why they knock the bleachers
Starting point is 00:44:43 down now, you know what I'm saying? And it's crazy. My nanny used to go walk that track all the time, you know? I remember being a kid walking that track with her. For exercise? Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Okay, so mom's in the game, and your mom and dad were together? Nah, they were like one. My mama told my daddy, my mom was a punk ass nigga, she told my dad she had birth control. And then, yeah. She got him. Yeah, got his ass. Got him. my dad she had birth control. She got him. God is up.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Really? Hell yeah. And then your dad is like your biggest fan from every interview I've seen you. That motherfucker's a savage. Yeah, he's a savage, man, you know? And they both told you from the time you were like four that you're gonna not fuck school, you're gonna be a rapper, right? Yeah. My dad's side of the family, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:23 My dad always wanted me to be correct as I got older you know like he tried to he tried to stay on me but i wasn't going for it you know i wasn't listening to it like nigga you fucking up too yeah shut up there's a uh it's funny you said you were rapping since you're four because i remember the first time i saw you it was the uh the johnny song. It just came up randomly. I was on either Instagram or TikTok and I just scrolled. And it's the start of your verse, like the beginning. And I was like, holy shit, this is
Starting point is 00:45:54 so musical. Thank you. It was the only way I can describe it is like a musical fluency. And I think this happens... And that's why I was like, who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Like, what the fuck is going on? I think there's some people that get to instruments, the game, or whatever it is. I know you can have whoever you... I'm sorry, I don't mean to throw you off. I'm getting high, too,
Starting point is 00:46:15 so I don't want to forget it. Go. I know you can have anybody on here, bro. I was a fan before, you know what I'm saying? And I'm grateful, bro. Respect, respect.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Like, you know what I'm saying? What I do is what I love. I'd be doing this shit if I was dead broke and a junkie. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I I'm grateful, bro. Respect, respect. Like, you know what I'm saying? What I do is what I love. I'd be doing this shit if I was dead broke and a junkie. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what else to do. But that's the beauty of it. I remember seeing it, and I go, wow, this guy's so musical.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But specifically that, it's like, and I've listened to the whole album, and it's the confidence that you have rapping in different ways. Like, there are certain people, they have like a cadence, and they have to stick to the cadence. It's not they have like a cadence and they have to stick to the cadence. It's not like, it's not like that they're bad, but they have to stick to it
Starting point is 00:46:48 because that's their comfort zone and they don't have like a musical fluency. I'm not a musical expert. This is just what I'm saying as an outside observer. Right. But just seeing
Starting point is 00:46:57 the different ways that you're able to rap so comfortably, right? Even the, what's it called song, the Cowboy Killer song is, bro, it's blues, bro. called, song, the Cowboy Killer song is, bro, it's blues, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yeah, hell yeah. But I grew up jamming that shit. But that's what I'm saying. And I think that's what happens. When I saw an interview, like I've been doing this since I'm four years old, I go, oh yeah, it's a language.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It makes sense. You know how to speak. Even when I saw the fucking, the llama shit. I'm like, how is this fire? And it's the musicality, right? It's just you have an instinct for musicality and I think that happens since
Starting point is 00:47:27 when you're doing it from a young age it's second hand to you you know what I mean yeah definitely I breathe this shit for real was he a musician hell no he was just a fucking savage but he would battle like his uncles his uncles rapped
Starting point is 00:47:42 yeah my uncle's on my mama's side matter of fact my uncle Moan remember I told you my mama would go out? My Tia Sam was younger. Her boyfriend was my Uncle Moan. And they'd been together since they were like, she was like a freshman, he was a sophomore. And he was rapping. And my cousin Homer from Bay City was rapping. And my Uncle Moan, he from Big Spring, Texas, which is West Texas.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Him and my Uncle Esco. They moved to West Columbia. And, you know, they have family over here. But anyways, he was Big Spring, Texas, which is West Texas. Him and my uncle Esco, they moved to West Columbia and they have family over here. But anyways, he was always in the studio. Him, Mamone, Esco, and Homer, they were always rapping. They made Kick Doe Click. And then I started rapping with them. And I was a kid recording.
Starting point is 00:48:19 You're like the Tiger Woods of rap. Hell yeah. It's just that you were like three, four years old. Do you have early tracks that never got released that you recorded when you were like really, really young? Mm-hmm. Really? There's some shit of me like when I was 13
Starting point is 00:48:30 rapping on YouTube. But do you remember some of your earliest bars? Nothing? Interesting. Yeah. Do you ever think about revisiting some of your first songs? Like I know you said your first song was about your mom.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You ever think about doing that now as an adult, 24 years old, 16 years later, you could probably make that something. I had it written. I don't even think I ever recorded that. I don't even think I have that paper no more. There's been lyrics that I wrote when I was in the eighth grade that I use it to this day.
Starting point is 00:48:58 A lot of the songs y'all listen to are old-ass lyrics I made. They just said better that's interesting like what like the the lawnmower one in kick-dope click it said I don't like snakes in my grass but I'm asking I'm oh it I use that when I was like probably a great seven great yeah Wow and you just collect them all over I'm gonna blow it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I used that when I was like, probably eighth grade, seventh grade. Oh, wow. And you just collect them all over time?
Starting point is 00:49:29 Oh, that's cool. Even I'll be, like, I think on the ride over here, for an example, on the ride over here, I'll see something and like, ooh, put it in the notes, because it'll make me think of a bar. It's funny, we all do the same shit. Even with jokes, like, one thing, like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 like I remember, if i if i go back to my earliest ideas some of them are awful and kind of pedestrian but some of them are like really authentic and it's like oh shit i really cared about this one thing and i didn't know how to make it funny yet but the idea was there there was something really novel there yeah definitely but yeah that's my whole note function is just like oh this might be an idea this might be something yeah someone that you said You grew up on That you really liked That I love
Starting point is 00:50:06 Is that you always Shout out Hopson Oh bro Hopson was an animal bro Yeah Was an animal dog It's interesting Not a lot of rappers
Starting point is 00:50:13 I've used some of his bars before Really Hell yeah Even Big L Like I remember I wanted to sound Just like Big L When I was growing up
Starting point is 00:50:22 Bro I gotta understand this Because I grew up in New York Huge Big L when I was growing up. Bro, I got to understand this, because I grew up in New York, a huge Big L fan. I did not know another person outside of New York that knew who Big L was. Bro, you know who put me on? How the fuck are you 24 years old to know who Big L was? This motherfucker didn't even have papers. Him and his family didn't even have papers, and I'm in the eighth grade with him. And he was like, hey, you ever heard of Big L?
Starting point is 00:50:41 I was like, nah, who's that fool? And he just put some headphones in my ear, and I think it was like the 98 freestyle that he did. Crazy. Yeah, and ever since then, I've just been in a loophole with him. Bro, L was so... Put it on was my shit. Put it on was great.
Starting point is 00:50:55 There's that great line... The bad hoes ass beepers like nothing but... That's the line, bro. He was one of those dudes, as a young dude, who I cared about comedians and being funny, etc. And I saw this rapper who was like, he had crazy hard bars, but it was really clever. He had punchlines built into it. So ahead of my time.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Hold up for Idiots, the city cops. Yeah, he was an animal, bro, definitely. You ever heard of the Devil's Son? Or the Devil's Advocate, or what is it? I think it's the Devil's Son. He says he's the son of the devil. Yeah, son of the devil. There you go.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I mean, there's Confessions of a Dice Game, which is great storytelling. Casualties of a Dice Game. Or Casualties of a Dice Game. You know, I think the first person that ever fucked me up with storytelling was Nas because he had that rewind. The rewind is crazy. I've been telling Sharla about this because he was like, I think, who was it? Who he said that was way better? Was it Biggie that he said was way better storytelling than Nas?
Starting point is 00:51:45 Biggie, Ghostface. He said somebody. Nah, Scarface. Scarface. No, Scarface is nice. Ridiculous. But like the rewind story from Nas. One, telling a story is already hard.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Two, rhyming it is hard. Three, rhyming it backwards. Right. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. That's a whole different animal. So you were listening to a lot of East Coast shit. You got to understand,
Starting point is 00:52:09 I was riding around in the car with my mom and dad while they doing what they doing, and I'm soaking all their game up. My dad jammed the Eagles, Rage Against the Machine, you know, fucking Metallica, 21 Guns, motherfucking, what is that?
Starting point is 00:52:23 What is that 21 Grinds? That's Green Day. Green Day, yeah. Green Day. The Offsprings. Of course, yeah. I'm saying all that shit. What about some Chente, bro?
Starting point is 00:52:32 Santana. Just, there's no, what about Vicente, bro? Nothing? No Rancheras? No. Nothing? Really?
Starting point is 00:52:43 At my Peppo Chico's, yeah. But like, I was only with him with him from when I was in Bay City because I'd be at the ranch with him. And my cousin Adrian and Michael. My cousin Michael was cold with that whip. Adrian, when cows shit, it petrifies. And we would get cow shit and throw it in the air and Michael would...
Starting point is 00:53:00 With a literal whip? Yeah, whip it in the air. That's how angry he was. He was a bad motherfucker. What the hell? It was rain shit. Who was that? My cousin Michael.
Starting point is 00:53:09 R.P. to my cowboy. Yeah, he died on my 10th birthday, man. That shit was wild. That was my cowboy. And he just worked on the ranch? With my Peppo Chico. Oh, that's cool. My Peppo Chico, he died at 99.
Starting point is 00:53:23 He won a plaque from the whole southern Texas. He got a plaque, Cowboy of the Century. Really? Hell yeah. That was a bad motherfucker right there. He cowboyed for that. When I'm doing this rap shit, I want a cowboy. I saw you on the horse.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I was like, oh, he can ride. Hell yeah. And what does that mean to cowboy? Like you have your own cattle. You have your own garden and things like that. Your stock, you know what I'm saying? And it's more than that. You know, like cows, you're going own garden and things like that, your stock, you know what I'm saying? And it's more than that. You know, like cows, you're gonna have
Starting point is 00:53:48 to fucking trim their nails. Horses trim their nails. You know, bathe these motherfuckers. It's funny, like, in New York, we don't understand what the job of cowboy is. We think it's just someone who rides a horse. And I was watching, was it Yellowstone? I was watching that show and I was like, oh, cowboying is the maintenance. Yeah, cowboying
Starting point is 00:54:04 is a whole lifestyle. It's a mentality. Bruh. Yeah, it's like construction. In New York, we have construction. And in Montana, they have cowboy. So what, you just have to watch over the horse? You're moving cattle to different pastures. Repairing the fence.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Repairing all the shit. Feed, all that shit. They're fucking, what is it, that's another thing I've been on a weird rabbit hole on fucking TikTok. Cleaning out the horse's hooves and shit.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, cutting the horse's hooves and the cow's hooves. That's what I was talking about, trimming them nails and shit. That shit is crazy. It looks like they're cutting their foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Nah, but it's just calcium. They don't feel that at all? It's all nail. It's all, what is it, nail made out of calcium, right? Yeah. Carotene. My heart is made out of that shit. There you go, that's all. That's all. What is a nail made out of? Calcium, right? Yeah. Carotene.
Starting point is 00:54:45 My heart is made out of that. There you go. That's all. There you go. I got a heart condition, bro. How about that? Calcium on my heart. Stop it, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Tequila's the only way to take care of it. I got calcium on my heart. These little young bucks. Stop it, bro. They think that, yeah. I got a question about the Cowboys. That's why I came. You make it look good, baby.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. That's why I was so stoked about the Big L thing, man. It's because, I don't know, I've just been such a big fan. And there was a couple songs that went big. I remember like even, I don't know, you're probably too young for this, but there was a. Ebonics is how I found out about it. Ebonics was great.
Starting point is 00:55:17 That's crazy. But like 106 and Park was playing Put It On. Yeah. But. By Big L? Yeah. So it's like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:55:26 okay, there's going to be some recognition, et cetera, and then it kind of moved on. But I really think that he was one
Starting point is 00:55:32 of the most profound rappers for his time. Like, especially multi-syllabic words. I think Zero was definitely ahead of his time too. Who?
Starting point is 00:55:41 Zero. Houston guy, right? Who's Zero? I don't know him. I think he was like, I remember, he was the person that really started
Starting point is 00:55:48 singing with rap. Just that light skin that I'm with, that mixed breed motherfucker. We kicked him out for that reason. Thank you. Get him out of here.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Get him, get him. Yeah, yeah. No, anyway, but B-Don. That mixed breed motherfucker. I love how Texas is so Texas. Please. That mixed breed motherfucker. Listen, anyway, B-Don. That Nick Spreed motherfucker. I love how Texas is so Texas-y. Listen. That Nick Spreed motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Listen, bro, for real. Nah, he cool as fuck, though. Shout out my boy, man. Like, he's definitely him. And there's another one, G-Luck. Those are two some bad motherfuckers. Two of the good ones. Huh?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Two of the good ones. GMB, GMB, that's their name. Anyways, they're cool as fuck. And not only are they great at what they do, they're highly respected just off face card, you know what I'm saying? So there's a lot that they can do. And B-Dun's really blessed me a lot, man. And he's the one that actually got Paul on the song.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Really? Yeah, bro. B-Dun, he's one of the pioneers of what the sound of texas is today you know what i'm saying like what does he do he makes beats oh yeah yeah yeah and um like g luck his sister is a toy luck uh you know beat on he he he was already punched in with them g and b they were on tour with slim thug when they were like 17 you you know what I'm saying? So they've been in the game for a minute. Right. So they've seen a lot too and learned a lot. They got to soak up a lot of game and shit. Anyways, back to Zero, he was ahead of his time too. I feel like he was
Starting point is 00:57:15 singing and had some crazy wordplay. He was fast as fuck. He was good at telling stories. He was definitely an animal for sure who do you think like who do you collab with and it can be outside of I have I have one because I there's something this you guys look completely different so it sounds weird but in your personality and you're just who you are as an artist you remind me of jellyroll who's a friend of you know jelly yeah know Jelly? Yeah, I don't know him personally, but I know everyone. He got that Somebody say Oh my God. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:57:47 unbelievable. You guys will go, and he can rap too. Yeah, he can. That's what he started as. Yeah. And then, but that's an interesting one.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Because you're both very authentic. I like Yellow Wolf. I like Yellow Wolf. Yellow Wolf, yeah. He was on that Worldwide Choppers, remember that?
Starting point is 00:58:02 Bro, remember that fucking, that skateboard video he had back in the day? It was one of the first music videos, and I think it was a remix. Remember Hobson was talking shit about everybody that was skating? He was like, I don't want real skating. He was talking shit about Lupe Fiasco. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a diss track.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah. Novy Novak, I think, too. He was like, dissing everyone. The Ill Mind Hobson 4, he was talking shit on that one, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so who's like a dream collab? Musically, somebody who just like musically you're really interested in. It could be rap.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Kodak Black, my favorite rapper. Really? So that's the other thing. He's not my favorite. He's not my dream feature. No, but here's another thing. It's like when I talk about musicality with you and I'm like, wow, this guy's really musical. That's the same thing that I say about Kodak.
Starting point is 00:58:45 It's fluency. It's like there's something about it that he understands music in a way where everything else is secondary. I want to sing with Stevie Ray Vaughan. Oh, wow. I mean, R.I.P., but like the greatest guitarist ever, arguably. Yeah, I want to sing with him now.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I mean, that would be so cool. Yeah. May I show you something? Hell yeah. So I recorded this. What is that song? Da, da, da, long and lean. Love like ours will never go.
Starting point is 00:59:12 She's my sweet little thing. She's my pride and joy. She's my pride and joy. Yeah, he was an unbelievable. She's my sweet little baby. Bro, if you covered that. Yo! That would be stupid, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I like that one. That would be crazy. Yeah, definitely. Let me see. Hold on. So I recorded this on my phone as a voice note, and I sent it to my boy Oliver, and he made this whole beat around it. Now, of course, it's only this small piece of it, but I want to show you it, because
Starting point is 00:59:40 Stevie Ray Vaughan is the reason why I sing like this. Cuz like Stevie Ray Vaughan is the reason why I sing like this Also that like I saw that movie the Cadillac Records And then after that I was already in the jazz music and then I saw that and like I just got even deeper into it So like a lot of the way they sing to like money waters beat really the Howlin wolf What's your calm the Howlin wolf? I need to see it. No the movies called Cadillac Records. Yeah, the movies called Calabria's Oh No, the movie's called Cadillac Records. Yeah, the movie's called Cadillac Records. That's so funky. Oh, also, I never go out, and I was at this bar with my Ken Foley CJ, and some rock song was playing.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I don't even know what it was, and I've got that melody to it, and I'm already a dog. I'll be out in public like... Yeah. So, like, yeah, here we go. Here we go. He a beast, man. He makes all those instruments himself. Who's this?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Oliver. Oh, yeah, bro. You gotta sing too, bro. I can't kick with them. Tell them the spunk eyes get on. I ain't feeling no. I say, baby, I need me a criminal. She don't keep the Glock in her purse and get rid of her. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. It's a code we be living. Even my mama told me don't trust these bitches. Money sticking to my tie. Driving on the road to riches.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I can't slow on fire. Now I throw it in the ditches. Right on. It's a code we be living. They going to use you for mileage. I just need some distance. Ain't no real about it. They guarded my witness and da-da-da-da-da-da-da. I just need some distance. I know that I'm bad I think God is my witness and I
Starting point is 01:01:32 That was great That's crazy That's how like a song comes about for you like your hair be Yeah, like I said, I was singing to another song and then I just, I recorded that acapella and he made the beat around it. Oh, wow. When you were doing the, just right now
Starting point is 01:01:54 when you're going da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, is that you? That's how I'm gonna hit it. I just don't know what I'm gonna say. That's how I do a joke sometimes. You're a bad motherfucker, No, I mean that. Yeah, I believe that. Like, I know what the music of the joke is. Yeah. But sometimes I don't know,
Starting point is 01:02:08 like, I know what it needs to be to get them to move in a way. Yeah. But I don't know the words that are there just yet. I have the premise of what I want to talk about, but that's so interesting
Starting point is 01:02:17 because I always describe it like music. I was like, yeah, I kind of know the rhythm of what it is. Yeah. So you're just flowing on the beat and then filling that in.
Starting point is 01:02:26 That's fucking sick. Chili Peppers, Nirvana, same thing. That's why a lot of lyrics don't make sense. Is that what they say they do? Yeah. And they're like, alright, what goes with that? And then they're just finding words that fit in that they kind of like that rhyme.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And then they're like, yeah, it doesn't matter what the words are. Let's just make a cool track. I mean this. You could argue kind of like that rhyme. And then they're like, yeah, it doesn't matter what the words are. Let's just make a cool track. I mean, you could argue, I don't want to say that the words aren't the priority, but especially with music. But what we attach ourselves to emotionally is the music
Starting point is 01:02:57 and the rhythm and the sound. And then the words on top will make you go, oh, this shit is crazy. Right, right. Because you could rock out so just the beat. I loved your whole song when I thought it was about Johnny Dang. And then I found out it was about some other shit, and I was like, ooh, this even fucked me, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's so interesting. Hell yeah, man. Oh, I love that direction, bro. So who helps curate that for you? Do you have people who are like, someone who's as obsessed with music on the production side as you are on the, what is it called, the lyric side and the singing side? Do you have another person that you're partnering with
Starting point is 01:03:32 to make these things happen? What do you mean, like lyrics-wise? No, no, like, is Oliver your producer who's like, hey? Nah, TB Robbie is my in-house producer. And then I got my buddy, Scales, he'll make some of my beats. I also work with, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:45 I work with the good beats. So, like, you know, like, at first, I used to be like, man, nah, I just want to work with my people. But I had to realize,
Starting point is 01:03:52 man, there's a whole world out there as selfish as I want to be. Greatness needs greatness, bro. And bring them with you. Right, of course. Have them learn. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:03:59 But I never want them to feel like I'm leaving them because, man, I want us to come together. Like, you got to understand, I've built my shit with them. They need game, too, though. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Collabbing with these people ain't going to take away food off their plate. They're just going to learn what this level of beat making is. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So, yeah, now I'm doing that,
Starting point is 01:04:16 working with other people. I met Oliver over there at Johnny Stripes shit at Cinematic, but I fuck with Oliver. I ended up punching in with him. He made the Cowboy Killer beat. I mean, that one was funky.
Starting point is 01:04:28 He made Brianna. Yeah, Brianna was cool, too. Brianna was great. Yeah. I was shitting and throwing up on myself at the same time when I made that song. What? I ate bad salmon. And then I was like, bro, it was bad, man.
Starting point is 01:04:43 And I'm throwing up on myself, and I get a call, and it's Johnny. He's like, hey, I need you. He was like, how you doing, cut? I said, I'm chilling. What's up? You know, because, like, I don't, you know, I already, I don't need to talk to him about it. And he was like, all right, well, I need you in Cali tomorrow. I was like, man, I just hung up.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Fuck that. I ain't trying to hear none of that. You know, I fucking, it got so bad, I just laid in the shower and leaked. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was bad, bro. And then, you know, I got to fucking California. I'm sitting here, like, biting ginger straight off the fucking,
Starting point is 01:05:15 just trying to do anything to get my belly to feel better. And I fucking went in there. And that shit came out, and I fucking, I knocked out, like like eight songs that night. What was the one song on the album where you have some sort of distortion on the voice? Where it gets lower? Yeah. Oh, it's Chop.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Oh, OMG. OMG, yeah, yeah. What were you putting on that? It just slowed. It just slowed down. Interesting. Yeah. Because at first I was like, is someone featured on this?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Nah, so I'm really hitting it faster. It just slowed down. So you hit it faster. I hit it at normal pace, which is probably like 145, 160 BPM, and then slowed it down to whatever it is right now. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah. I got a few songs like that.
Starting point is 01:05:56 It's called Screwed or Slowed. That's the chopping screw. Yeah, but I don't chop it, though. I just screw it. What does chop mean? Like where it plays it back. Like if I'm like, kick, dope, click to the data, don't kick, dope, kick, dope, click to the kick, dope, click to the data, don't go home. Screwing is just taking it down.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Right. And chopping is when you're going to, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's some songs that are not screwed. It's just chopped. Hmm. I like that you don't put yourself in a box. Like, you're rapping, but then you also have country songs. You got to understand, this rap shit at this point,
Starting point is 01:06:27 it's like, how better could I get, right? So now I'm just having fun. But also I think... But the song Barrio, I really like that shit. Thank you. That shit was fun. That shit was fun to write. Yeah, and that's why I've been enjoying those songs a lot more
Starting point is 01:06:41 because they're just fun, you know what I'm saying? This rap shit, like I said, it's fun and shit, but it's not that it's old. It's like I'm just unlocking new characters every day. That's the thing is like most people are starting rap in their teens. You've been doing it for 20 years and you're 24. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah. So I do understand that there's some probably monotony with it. What is that? Just like repetitiveness. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean that's my favorite lyric, because I don't even know how to rap, I just rhyme words.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Yeah. I don't even rap, I just rhyme words. I got another song where I say Eddie did, Gritty did, Fleming did, Jiminy did, I didn't make up some words, but it still sounds dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got another song where I say I can say stupid shit and it still sound good.
Starting point is 01:07:26 See? Stupid shit. I'm not a stupid bitch. And the success, it feels like obviously it's been coming and there's been people that knew you on the come up for a long time, but then since the new record it's been absolutely crazy. Has the success and the speed of it been intimidating or are you completely comfortable with it? I'm chilling. It's completely cool. Yeah. Have people come up to you are you completely comfortable with it i'm chilling
Starting point is 01:07:49 it's completely cool yeah have people come up to you that you grew up with asking for money hell yeah all my family how do you how do you deal with that it pisses me off because it's like i got this with when my stomach was touching my back i ain't never been i just barely got fat nice dude fine you wear it well bro i tried man. But yeah, I just barely got fat, man. Like about a year and a half, maybe two years ago. You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I ain't have nobody. And I never wanted to ask. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Like, I don't want to ask for that shit. You know, I'd rather go get it. And I ain't going to say I was a hustler either because like, I struggled, man. But everything I had, I took it, you know? Like, I had to get it. It's like, fuck, I'm hungry. I need it.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Southern California, Los Angeles specifically, I have excellent news. Me and Derek Poston, this Thursday, August 10th, we're both headlining the Bray Improv. That's right. Suck his dick, everybody. He's headlining now. You don't have to suck my dick if you don't want to. I think that's inappropriate.
Starting point is 01:08:40 You can, though. I think that would be too far. But if you wanted to come out and potentially even touch my penis over my pants, I would enjoy that. We'll be at the Bray Improv. Me and Derek Poston. Okay, we're going to be doing extended time.
Starting point is 01:08:51 You've probably seen Derek on this show. Maybe you've seen him opening for Schultz. You've seen me on this show. You've seen me opening for Schultz. We both go around with Andrew. But finally, we're on our own. We've been cut loose. The Mutiny Tour, all right?
Starting point is 01:09:00 Is that your boys' tour or a world tour? That's what we're doing. We're traveling around with Andrew. Bray Improv. This Thursday, August 10th. Come see us. And then after that, Virginia Beach, we're going to you, August 17th. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, get some head to the headlining.
Starting point is 01:09:14 You know what I mean? No one has to give me any sexual favors if you don't want to. But you could, though. Well, I'm married, so I don't think that would be— It's an option. I don't think that would be appropriate to do. But August 17th, Virginia Beach, me and Derek will be there. We'll be headlining. If you're going to see Andrew, come out the day before.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Come on. Come hang out with us. We're doing a meet and greet after. We're going to say what's up to everyone. I cannot wait to see you guys there. Brea Improv, August 10th, Virginia Beach, August 17th. I'll see you guys. Thanks so much.
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Starting point is 01:10:46 first month of treatment for free. That's keeps.com slash flagrant to get your first month free. keeps.com slash flagrant. Now let's get back to the show. When did you get used to people looking at you? Like when I first got a little bit of fame, I was used to just being a New Yorker. So when people would look at me, I was thinking that they were looking at me for some sort of ill intent. You see what I'm saying? And I'd be tripping, bro. I'd be like, what the fuck you looking at? It will take a little bit, but eventually you're going to expect all those people looking at you to ask for a picture.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah. But the first few years is weird. Yeah, now I expect it, but you still never know. Yeah You know saying like I still be trying to play it safe like I see the people I'm like maybe a fan, you know saying so I kind of like let them come a little closer and like once I get closer And I see them smiling. I'm like I get your ass over here But like other than that, I'll be I'll be full-on champion like bitch don't come close Because it could be some past shit that you don't even know. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:11:46 Like, bro, I know motherfuckers that got to get back 20 years later. 20 years? Hell yeah. It's never late. Never too late. Wow. Damn. Are you worried about that?
Starting point is 01:11:55 Is there anything that you're worried about? Hell yeah, but you can't worry about shit like that. I mean, I ain't going to say I'm out here just tripping every day because, like, I don't beef with nobody, you know? I'm chilling. But I ain't going to say I ain't never say I'm out here just tripping every day, because I don't beef with nobody, you know, I'm chilling. But I ain't gonna say I ain't never done no shit, you know? Have you had anybody hate on you since your success? Hell yeah. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:14 I post them. Wait, wait, wait. I love them. I comment. Have a great day, baby. You know that that comes with it. Hell yeah. Our motherfuckers didn't even like me when I was nobody
Starting point is 01:12:25 You know what I'm saying I know motherfuckers not gonna like me now Cause I've always been a cool person Like I remember 2018, 2019 I dropped a music video And I just did it cause like I ain't have no job I'm on drugs, I don't wanna do nothing Let's do this, I wanna do music So we ended up dropping it
Starting point is 01:12:41 And it hit like 40k in a month and got stuck there You know what I'm saying And that's when I was a nobody. You know, I had my fans, but it's because, like, in the county, everybody loved me. I'm just a cool person. I'll be at parties. I'll be chilling, you know. And then so that's where it started, my fan base.
Starting point is 01:12:58 And then from there, word of mouth was my number one growth. Yeah, that's always the best. Hell yeah. That's why my shit's so organic. Like, I can— everybody can, it's easy to get views. Can you sell out a show? Man, I'll be, I'll be, bro, I'll tell my fans go eat a bowl of shit and jump off a cliff and they gonna do it.
Starting point is 01:13:13 You're right about selling out shows, because that's a difference maker. There's a lot of people who make hits, but they can't fill a venue. You see what I'm saying? Russ is a bad motherfucker. That motherfucker was performing in the pyramids of Egypt. Shout out Russ, man. He's my inspiration for what I did with comedy. He that motherfucker was performing in the pyramids of Egypt Shout out Russ man. He's my inspiration for what I did with comedy. He's my his blueprint of how yeah
Starting point is 01:13:35 Respect for real. He was putting a song out a week and I was oh, maybe you have no you have no choices But this but to see it 100% bro, and you get better Come on, you can't keep speaking Spanish and get worse at it Like you you keep you keep using it, bro. Yeah. Doesn't it, bro? Yeah. Nah, he's nice. Yeah, definitely, dog.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Have you spoken to him before? Yeah. You guys connected? I've actually, really, I posted him, but I posted him, like, speaking as a fan. Yeah. Not a fan, like, I was giving game to other rappers. Admiration, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah, I was like, like, it was something, like, something he does, and I was like, you know, this is who I look up to for any other artists that are, cuz I suck at giving advice, I suck at talking. I rap my ass off, I suck at talking. So I can't explain shit. You've been good at talking so
Starting point is 01:14:14 far on this podcast. I'm trying, I'm trying. Damn, I'm getting high as I'm trying. Yeah. So, boy, I feel like the way he breaks it down is so much easier. So I posted it as in like, here,
Starting point is 01:14:24 this is my free game to you. And then he saw it and he hit me back. And I don't even remember what he said. He was like, yeah, you're cold. And I left it there. You know what I'm saying? Because I don't want to seem like that person is just hitting him up. I'd rather just show him what the fuck I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And then he going to circle back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's how it's always been. I ain't never really hit nobody up for no feature. Everything I got has always been organic. Really? Hell yeah. I feel like that's the best way. Even like, I don't ain't never really hit nobody up for no feature. Everything I got has always been organic. Really? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I feel like that's the best way. Even like, I don't know people that be hitting bitches up on social media. Like, nigga, what? Fuck no. Like, bitch, I'm already a rapper. So the bitch going to think, oh, this thirsty ass nigga right here. You know? So like, I've always, like, even little shit like that.
Starting point is 01:14:57 But you're going to also get to a point where it's, okay, so in the beginning they're like, oh, he's thirsty. And then you get to a point of fame where they go oh he's just trying to fuck me and leave me you know what i'm saying so you're never good you know what i mean yeah so but this is an easier position to come from yeah because some girls are okay with the fuck you leave you yeah because you're a notch on their belt those women yeah you want them to fucking what is it that you like again? Beat you up. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Beat you up. Tell us all shit to you. Hit on you and punch you in the head. Yeah. Slot him out and get in the towel. That's it. Have you gotten a chance to travel? Like, I know you went on tour with OGZ, but, like, have you gone to Europe and, like, been around there? Yeah, no, I could.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I'm a Texan. Do you want to? Do you want to, like, get out and be like, you don't want to go to Europe? Man, come on with that shit. Come on, bro. Yes, yes. No, don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:15:50 They'll love you out there, too. They will fucking love you out there. Bro, it'll be so much fun. You'll get to experience it. Don't you want to see the pyramids, bro? Don't you want to go see Rome? I do want to see that. I want to perform there.
Starting point is 01:15:59 There we go. I don't want to go there to chill. Fuck, I'm going to be in the desert. That's not my habitat. You're in Texas. That's what I'm saying. It's like three degrees cooler. He needs cash back.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Nah, hell nah. We got humidity. That's the thing. All right, fair enough. There's some water. And I got my shit here. Like, I'm comfortable here. I done planted all my seeds here.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Everything I got here grow. You believe in aliens? No, there's something out there. I think aliens are in the water and not space. I've watched some stuff on that recently. Because we don't know what the fuck is going on down there. Bro, think of it. They only discovered, what, 7% of it?
Starting point is 01:16:29 And it's how much of the earth? Yeah, and also there's, what is it, the octopus brains. They study octopus in some weird way and they feel, they have emotions, they have superior intelligence. Yeah, bro, a motherfucker can twist a nut. It can be inside a bowl and twist the thing and get itself out.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's smart. They have self-awareness. They know what they look like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? They do that thing with the dot. I think I've told this before.
Starting point is 01:16:52 No, is this? They're able to put a marking on them, and if they see a mirror, they know what they look like, and they know that there's something on them that they try to get off. Oh, because they can change what their exoskeleton looks like. Yeah, yeah. They're good. They camouflage. But a lot of animals, if they see themselves in the mirror, they think it's another animal. But they have a
Starting point is 01:17:08 self-awareness to understand this. When I first got him, I thought that motherfucker was like... I thought that his parents were cousin fuckers because this motherfucker was just dumb, bro. Listen to this shit, bro. Legally retarded, right? Bro, listen. He got paperwork, bro. We would be walking, that motherfucker
Starting point is 01:17:24 would just walk into my legs Like, bro, what the fuck are you doing? Just stupid shit. And then he'd walk around. He just looked dumb. He might be retarded. That tongue shit. You ever got high and talked to your dog? Like, you ever feel like you can communicate telepathically?
Starting point is 01:17:41 Hell no. But like, I've been talking to him. That's not like some shit you did. You don't fuck with water? No, that happens, bro. You don't fuck with water? Bro,
Starting point is 01:17:49 one of my biggest fears, but I also think it's like the most beautiful thing on earth. As long as you away from it? As long as I see it on TV. Interesting. So you wouldn't go to a beach
Starting point is 01:17:59 and even just look at the water? Nah, beach for a prop would be good. I'd be chilling. But what about just being on a boat in the middle of the ocean jumping in for a swim? Nah, beachfront property, you good. I'll be chilling. But what about just being on a boat in the middle of the ocean, jumping in for a swim?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Oh, hell nah. I'd die of heart failure. Yeah, I'm close. I'd rather go skydive. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:18:15 That shit is terrifying, They go swim in the ocean? Hell nigga, what? Shit. You'd rather skydive than swim in the ocean, bro?
Starting point is 01:18:24 Man, what? It's not just black people. Why, why, why, why? Because the unknown. Yes. There's too much. And I'll be tripping.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I don't watch too many movies, bro. I'll be thinking, I've seen this picture of a girl. She was in the water. And then it's like a fat-ass fucking eyeball underneath her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You saw the whales that came up while the girl was in the water? Bro, a whale came and smacked that fucking... On the fucking canoe I saw that.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Hell no, bro. If I'm on a boat, that hook gotta be like eight of the Titanic. Even then, bro, what happened to the Titanic? Yeah, even then, bro. So what do you think about the people that went in the submarine that went down there? What the fuck you doing down there? It's not your jungle. It's not your habitat. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:19:09 That's not like... That's why I don't think anybody has sympathy for them. I mean, I mean, fuck, may God rest their soul, I guess, of course. Yeah, like, I don't want anybody bad, but no better. What's that? No better. Oh, no better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah yeah but there might be
Starting point is 01:19:26 aliens down there though without a doubt I'm sure bro I believe there's some demonic shit down there too wait really? hell yeah
Starting point is 01:19:33 going out I haven't heard this before thank you very much bro there's been floods all the time you know what I'm saying there's houses down there that I bet some fuckery
Starting point is 01:19:39 went on in you know what I'm saying like bro the water's slowly just eating up the land you know what I'm saying I bet shit down there is slowly just eating up the land. You know what I'm saying? I bet shit down there.
Starting point is 01:19:47 And you never know. There's people that are with, have death wishes. You know what I'm saying? There's this one dude, he'll go in the water. And originally what he started on YouTube was he'll go in water and find shit and restore it. He'll find a badass Rolex and restore it. Then he started finding water bottles and bottles with notes in them and they were fucking
Starting point is 01:20:06 death wishes. No. Yes. Hell yeah. And he would find thousands of them. And you are right about that, about coastline.
Starting point is 01:20:14 Like as the water rises, the coastline gets evaporated. No one talks about that. Those ghosts are probably in the water. Yeah, or all the Dakedovar ancient ancestors on the demon.
Starting point is 01:20:22 All that voodoo shit going on and it's all in the water. Yeah, where did the voodoo shit come from with Louisiana? I think Louisiana. All that voodoo shit going on and it's all underwater. Yeah, where did the voodoo shit come from with Louisiana? I love Louisiana, though. Don't get it twisted. I love Louisiana. Especially because I play Red Dead.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, the voodoo shit is crazy. But voodoo is Dominican, right? I think it's Haitian. I thought it was Haitian. Yeah, but even then, they were very... So maybe that's why. Yeah. it was Haitian. Yeah, but even then they were very-
Starting point is 01:20:45 New Orleans, so maybe that's why. Yeah. The French there. Yeah, the French. Yeah, I think it comes from that probably. Yeah, but even the French there are your people. Yeah, I think they're actually French, but I'm assuming- No, they're Canadian.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Are they really? Yeah, the French that went to, that's why their accents, the Montreal, yeah, like- Montreal. That's why their accents, the Montreal, yeah, like the New Orleans accent is similar to Quebecois French. You remember Waterboy? Yeah. You remember Coach? Yeah. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:21:16 Oh, fuck. Hey. He was on Joe Dirt, too. He was like, hold on a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have a Canadian who founded New Orleans. Oh, interesting. So it was like the French Canadians went down there.
Starting point is 01:21:28 They went down. So that's why their accent. And then I think a bunch of, was it New Yorkers or something like that? I don't know. How New Orleans, the accent came about is quite interesting. Yeah. It is the most fun accent. They claimed it for France, but they were Canadians.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Yeah, they were representing France, I guess. Oh, that's interesting. But do you believe in curses and voodoo shit? Like, do you think that shit works? Hell yeah. Energy. Hell yeah. I believe curses are still, I believe, man, who knows?
Starting point is 01:21:56 What happens? Like, let's say, all right, you do a lot of drugs, whatever, but have you had any experience in the drugs where you have felt, like like an almost religious existence? Yeah, but I'm probably just high as fuck. Of course. But has it brought you anywhere where you're like, oh, I feel small in the world. I feel connected to everything.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Hell no. I felt disconnected. If anything, I felt like everything was out to get me. Even on shrooms and stuff? Hell yeah. Wait a minute, but that's interesting. Do you feel like that sometimes in life? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:27 You got a little bit of a chip on your shoulder. Hell yeah, bro. I used to feel like, no, not even that. I used to just feel like my mama died at a young age. I used to see all this fuckery shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm living, grown as fuck as a kid. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:22:42 I just felt like I was robbed from everything. Yeah. And I took it sensitive. I got butt hurt from it, I guess. And that chip on my shoulder just made me bottle up so much anger. And it just grew and grew and grew. And it became very unhealthy. But now it feels like you're, I don't know, you feel like you're at a different level.
Starting point is 01:23:00 It feels like, I don't know, emotionally, you don't seem like an angry person to me. You said I was really angry as a person and now you're not as much. And I was wondering, I know you said you didn't have any experiences on shrooms or any psychedelics or anything, but do you think that helped in the long run, making you less angry? I don't know. I think I just
Starting point is 01:23:18 finally just, I think I realized how unhealthy because, like, bro, I used to get so mad. I'd, like, when I was get so mad. I'd like, when I was done getting mad, I'd feel like I got whooped. I feel like I got jumped. I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:23:29 fuck, my body just felt drained. Yeah, the emotional stress. I'd be like, fuck, I want to go to sleep. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:23:35 And I think when I realized it was that bad, I'd be like, fuck, like, and then I would get mad, and then I'd get mad, because I know I shouldn't be this fucking mad about it. Right? I'd be mad. So it I shouldn't be this fucking mad about it.
Starting point is 01:23:46 So it's like, fuck. I'm that type of person. I'm going to let that shit boil up. Did you talk to your dad about this at all? Hell no. You don't think he'd have good advice? Hell, I mean, yeah, I ain't going to lie. That motherfucker told me.
Starting point is 01:24:00 He gave me a lot of jewels for sure. That's what I feel. But we ain't ever really talked about our emotions like that Interesting cuz he's recently maybe it from what you tell he's so emotional around you He is he's not afraid to show his affection. Yeah, but nobody everybody he a gorilla But like interesting so only around you do you see the the tears only around do you see you love? I don't even think he's like that around my nanny, his mama. Get out of here. And why do you think so much around you?
Starting point is 01:24:29 I'm his son, you know what I'm saying? My whole life, he just wanted me to be his best friend. I remember going to visit him in prison, and he told me that I would go to the guards with coins, because, you know, you can get the coins and take them to the concession stand and bring them back and forth. He said, I'll take the coins and be like, I'll give you these coins, let me take my daddy home. You know what I'm saying? It would fuck him up.
Starting point is 01:24:50 You would go there and you'd ask the guards if you could take him home. Yeah. Like here, I'll give you these coins. That's all I got. Because you miss him. Yeah. I remember I'd go there, we'd lock up. Because I had to talk to him through glass. I'd be like, dad, check me out. And I was a kid, you know glass I bet that check me out now I was a kid you know I'm saying I just started doing push-ups sit-ups no way yeah I always I used to rap to him but I would rap was on the radio he'd be like fuck that I want to hear what you got to say hmm and my mama died and I was like a
Starting point is 01:25:21 and that's when I wrote my first song so like you know just hearing him say it and I would write notes on him like, you know You write letters and I'd write rap song and shit Send them pictures. I have I have a great relationship with my dad. I love my dad more than anything in the world and We tell we begin better with our relationship, you know saying like it was rough I'm gonna say we were just the best But having someone that's that important to you believe in you is fucking awesome, isn't it? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:49 It's fucking awesome. I met my dad, bro. My dad looked at me like I was God. He would come like- Doesn't that fill you with fucking confidence? You're like the one person that I care about on this planet, in their opinion of me. Bro, and this motherfucker,
Starting point is 01:26:01 I seen this motherfucker knock out like five dudes in a row, you know what I'm saying? Like to me, this dude was God. Like, he's not only, he's swole. It's all agility. It's all agility. That motherfucker's an animal. So, like, just hearing, and always hearing stories of how much of a bad motherfucker he was.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Not even just with the man, just mentally, who he was. And, man, that's Chuck. What an interesting life. Yeah. So, he's not associated with anything. He's on his own. He's, I presume, hustling to kind of make it work. Nah, he, I mean, shit, like, he was a, he went to school for the body.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I ain't gonna lie. There's one thing that motherfucker know is the human body. He an animal. He was a trainer, you know. He would train people. I remember he was training the news lady in Austin. Like, he was training a lot of big people. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:26:45 Yeah, he had his own gym, Conquer Fitness. Him and his boys on Sunbox Road. I used to be in the gym working out with him. I remember we'd be in there boxing, doing lift weights. We lifted weights, but a lot of it was all body weight. He wanted me to have full control of my body. Like, I could do a backflip right now still. I just got a bag on me.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Wait, what? Hell yeah. I'm a number of jills. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still a backflip right now still. I just got a bag on me. What? Hell yeah, I'm done with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm still fast too. I ain't gonna say I'm the fastest, but I bet I'm fast as fuck. You can do a backflip right now.
Starting point is 01:27:13 Bro, I'll show you a video of me doing a backflip. I was heavier. I was like 280 right here. No. Yeah. There's no way. I can't show you. And gravity don't like big motherfuckers like me So I'm really defiant
Starting point is 01:27:27 You see what I'm saying That's Bushwick Aw Look at Cutie Frenchie? Pocket bully I just kept his ears That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:27:37 I was gonna clip him But when I The only reason I bought him It's cute like that Yeah I ain't gonna lie I love it
Starting point is 01:27:42 Cause I can see all his emotions I can see what he's feeling and shit through his ears. Anyways, he was beat the fuck out of as a child. That's actually a really good point about clipping the ears. It's harder to pick up on cues because when they're super alert, they're going to shoot the ears up. Yeah, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:27:59 Why do they cut them? Well, I think it's an aesthetic. Dobermans and shit. Look, Bay City, look at me. That's me in the Bay City Laws. What are you saying? Hey, when I go out... They fuck with you or what?
Starting point is 01:28:09 Hell yeah. When I go to Bay City, the laws, the newspaper, everybody out. Oh, really? So you call the police the laws? The laws. That's cool. The men in blue. Wait, where's his back flip, though?
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah, yeah, give me the back flip. Oh, yeah, my fault, my fault, my fault. I keep getting lost. I want to show you my grandpa Gilbert, too. Interesting. So he had a gym. I don't know. I was watching interviews with you. Venice Beach. I was 280 right there. I was bigger than all this shit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Hold on, let me see. And you're going to need to send this to Miles so that we can put it on. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Whoa. Bro. You hear, Jody? That's better than me into water.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Yeah. Bro. Off a platform. Oh, that's wild. Wow. Bro. That's crazy. Were you good at sports when you were younger?
Starting point is 01:29:03 Hell yeah, I played soccer and baseball. Oh, really? What were you better at? Both. Hell yeah. Okay, hold on, hold on. And me and my team, when I played, me and my team, we were always together. Like, there would be people that would play for different teams different years. Me and my team, we was always together.
Starting point is 01:29:18 So our chemistry was ridiculous. Oh. Like, I'd be seeing my little cousins in them play, and they'll take a fat-ass L. Like, I'm talking about smacked. And they'll run to the dugout laughing. Ah, okay, what you doing? I'm like, bitch, I'll be crying right now. Like, we just fucking lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:34 I remember going hard in practice, bro. Were you competitive? All of us. We was animals, bro. I remember I was in, like, the fourth grade already trying to learn how to bicycle kick. The backflip with the kick. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was headbutting goals in already. I was an animal. fourth grade already trying to learn how to bicycle kick the backflip with the kid
Starting point is 01:29:47 I was head button goes in already. Hmm But we call him flathead he was an animal with that shit he would always hit the balls with his head and he would get the most He was a mean machine you wonder how dedicated we was that motherfucker had his foot fractured and eight different places by the end of the Game and he kept playing because he thought it was only just sprained. Oh, shit. Bro, we was kids, but we was playing. Shit. I think he was probably like, I was fifth grade, maybe fourth grade.
Starting point is 01:30:17 Damn. On a broken leg? Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, fractured. It wasn't broke. Fractured on like about seven, eight different places on his foot. All right, guys.
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Starting point is 01:32:46 Shit. Smoking on Viagra on my front porch. Chilling. Paya, paya, paya. Chilling. Making music? Yeah, maybe. Probably on Cabo and by then. That's the goal? making music yeah maybe probably on cowboy by then that's the goal yeah
Starting point is 01:33:09 get the land that's why I ain't got no chains or nothing like that cause you're saving up yeah
Starting point is 01:33:14 I mean not only that I don't need it my music speaks for itself you know not only that but there's
Starting point is 01:33:19 people out there that I be seeing people in all the time fat ass chains four of them
Starting point is 01:33:24 fat ass Cubans in a fat ass pin They bust down Rolex fucking Fucking sky dweller, you know saying rings and they're not even rappers So it's like anybody can have it now. Yeah Don't want it. I feel like my cap will have my boots is my chain and shit Yeah, and I don't look like how I spit. So like, I went to Atlanta one time, I had boots on, denim shorts, and a wife beater, and my cowboy hat, and my diamonds in my mouth.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Cut look at me like. Who is this guy? And I get in there. Game over. I had the people from the front desk like, what in there, you know what I'm saying? Everybody was in there. I'm like, yeah, bro, I just look like this.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Supreme confidence in your ability. Man, if I don't believe in myself, why the fuck should you? Facts. That's fire. Never question it for a second. I can't. I got to stand on something.
Starting point is 01:34:12 I got a question about the cowboy hat, the boots. If you watch old videos of you, you're not really wearing that. You're wearing jeans, Jordans, whatever. Because I was trying to look like a rapper. That's when you weren't being yourself. Yeah. When did you start to embrace yourself? Can you walk me through? Was it a conscious, like, you know, whatever. Because I was trying to look like a rapper. That's when you weren't being yourself. Yeah. When did you start to embrace yourself? Can you walk me through, was it a conscious, like, you know, this is who I am?
Starting point is 01:34:29 Because that is also. I just started being, I just gave up on it. I just started getting lazy. Like, man, I just want to wear what I wear. And it's funny how the world works because that's where I'm 39. He's 39. We're more casual at this point. I'm not going to keep up.
Starting point is 01:34:41 But that will catch my eye. A motherfucker holding a chicken and spitting crazy. And that's everyday living. You know what I'm saying? Like, that chicken's named Pretty Lady. You know what I'm not going to keep up. But that will catch my eye. A motherfucker holding a chicken and spitting crazy. And that's everyday living. You know what I'm saying? Like that chicken's making me pretty lady. You know what I'm saying? We got a boy out there. I think it's just authenticity. People are drawn to it. And I think there's different ways of communicating that authenticity. Yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:58 But we're always drawn. I think that's why you feel like you get so much love in New York because when someone sees you walking down the street like this in New York, New Yorkers- I just had a motherfucker say I look like I came from here. Bro, but here's the thing. New Yorkers just will look at this and they don't go, what the hell's wrong with this guy? They'll go, oh, this guy's doing his own thing?
Starting point is 01:35:17 That's fire. We love people that are being uniquely themselves. Yeah. So if I don't- That's why that worked for you. Exactly. What you got going on is your steel love. I fuck with that. I mean, this kid grew up in Queens. Right. So if I don't... Yeah, that's why that worked for you. Exactly. Like, what you got going on is your steelo.
Starting point is 01:35:26 I fuck with that. I mean, this kid grew up in Queens. Right, that's what's up. He's not hunting, but he looks like he's hunting dick. That's a big fuck. Hog hunting. Yo, he's going hog hunting in there.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Hunt, bro. You got to go, man. That shit's a whole different feeling. Yo, next time... We got suppressors on them hoes, so, like, the kickback ain't shit. You feel like you're shooting, like, a BB gun. So next time when we're in Texas, let's a whole different feeling. Yo, next time. We got suppressors on them hoes, so the kickback ain't shit. You feel like you're shooting a BB gun. So next time when we're in Texas, let's do some hog.
Starting point is 01:35:49 That's easy. I'm going to take you to my boy Ryan. We're going to be going over Bay City. Done. In Wharton. Done. That's easy, I swear. But it's so interesting how the world works.
Starting point is 01:35:57 You lean into who you are and stop trying to accommodate anybody else. And then all of a sudden that success starts pouring in. Isn't that fucking weird? But it's not weird. It makes the most sense. You could be the best version of you. You know what's crazy? I despised and hated
Starting point is 01:36:10 everything of myself growing up. Because I was just like from family to people that was around me, I was just talking so much shit to. And eventually I got to the point where I believed them. I was just broken.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I was like, man, I just... They would talk shit about you? Yeah. And you know what I'm saying? I remember I'd go to school in rap, and there was people that fucked with it, but then there was people that'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 01:36:31 You know what I'm saying? And then not only just the rap shit, just who I am as a person. There's a lot of people that didn't like me. I don't know. I just didn't like myself, I guess. When did you start to say, I got to believe in myself? What was that like? Shit. Yeah, I just didn't like myself, I guess. When did you start to say, like, I gotta believe in myself?
Starting point is 01:36:45 What was that like? Shit, I would probably... I was grown. I was like 20. Oh, wow. 21. Yeah, that's the brilliance of going through, like having everybody shit on you and then being able to find your own resilience.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Like, my dad here told me to this day, son, I used to ask you what you want to do, and you'd be like, I don't know what you want to do. And he would hate that shit. He'd be like, fucking make a decision, nigga. But I was so scared to fail, like, and, you know, and I was already fucking up. And I, you know, and I would, like, my mom lost, she would lose jobs because she would have to pick me up from school. I'm already fucking up, dude. So it's like shit. Rob Markman And you also just want them to be so happy.
Starting point is 01:37:31 You see what I'm saying? I already miss that. My stepmama, you know what I'm saying? I grew up with her for some time too. And she'll try and kiss me and hug me and shit like that. I'm like, man, that shit is so foreign. I needed that shit then. Rob Markman Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:43 But didn't both of your parents, like, were confident in you being a rapper at a young age? Hell yeah. My mom and my dad were like, my dad believed in me more than I believed in my dad. Like, I remember he would get mad. He'd be like, son, he was like, you're too fucking brilliant for this shit.
Starting point is 01:37:57 You know what I'm saying? Like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, I remember, like, you know what I'm saying? And he would think I wasn't listening to him, but I was, like, I just didn't, I didn't know what to say, you know? There's nothing to say. I know I fucked up.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Let me fix it. You think if your dad grew up in different circumstances, he could be, like, a millionaire banker or something like that? Yeah, yeah. My dad brilliant at everything he do. That's what I'm saying. Like, he had to thrive within the environment that he grew up in. And not only that, like I was saying, that energy, that's a real thing.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I got it, too. Like, that motherfucker, he'll go to sleep, all his bills are not paid, zero money in the bank, and, like, he just got everything to stress over. Like, he probably finna lose his house. And he gonna wake up with a hundred bands in his bank account,
Starting point is 01:38:46 all bills paid, and the bitch is at the front door. A bitch at the front door. You're saying that's his mentality on life. He's gonna figure it out. No, that's just how he's, that'll be a real scenario. Real shit just happened like that to him. Wait, what?
Starting point is 01:39:00 Yeah, probably not 100 bands, but I exaggerated, but he had nothing. No bills paid, nothing, and he just got, you know what I'm saying? For some reason, it could be anything. Like, oh, government, here's a check, you know what I'm saying, that you have from prison. It's anything. He's blessed. Things tend to work out.
Starting point is 01:39:19 Yeah, there you go. Have you bought him anything? Now that you got money, have you bought him a car, bought him anything that he wanted? Actually, my dad and my little brother out of my family are the only people that have never called me not once and asked for anything. My dad has never asked me for nothing.
Starting point is 01:39:38 The only thing my dad asks me for is time. Literally, he'll be like, he'll be talking to me, he'll be like, son, just give me 30 seconds of your life. You know what I'm saying? I promise to you. That's beautiful. Yeah, that's all he's ever asked for. And what does that feel like when he's asking for that?
Starting point is 01:39:50 I'll be like, come on, what the fuck you want? Do you make time for him? I try to. He'll be mad. Yeah, he'll be like, he'll be mad. I'm not mad, but he'll be like, nigga, fuck with me. But I'll just be busy. Like I wanted him in here in New York, but, you know, I know that.
Starting point is 01:40:06 I'm older than you, way older than you. And my dad's starting to lose his memory a little bit. But this year I started going every single Thursday to go see him. And sometimes we just hang out and read. Like, sometimes we don't talk or whatever. But it is the best decision I've made in my life. It's just having the presence there. Like, we don't even got to speak.
Starting point is 01:40:25 And also doing it for them. Like, sometimes we think about, like, what we're going to get out of situations, but knowing that it makes them feel good, even if you're not even talking. Yeah, is it crazy seeing him get old? Yeah, because they don't get old until one day. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:40:40 Isn't that crazy? Yeah, like my dad, that motherfucker 49, and he's still kicking. Kicking, ready to throw down. Fuck you up still, that motherfucker 49 and he's still kicking. Kicking, ready to throw down. Fuck you up still probably. Bro, he look like, people be thinking
Starting point is 01:40:49 he my brother and I be like, hey dad. For real. Anyways, my Pippa Chico, that motherfucker was old. I remember this motherfucker
Starting point is 01:41:00 was so old. One time I walked into the house and all the lights are off except for the living room light because he's sitting in there and the TV's off. He just... And you thought he was gone? No, I knew he was away. He's just standing there. And I walk in
Starting point is 01:41:13 and I'm like, man, what are you doing? Just sitting there. Just sitting like just... Just thinking. Getting a moment of sound. Man, bro, I wish I was able to... I wish I can open his head and pick at his brain. I'll press the muscle and then a memory pops up. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:41:33 Why does he not communicate that much? Nah, he definitely does, but he just has something. Bro, that nigga died at 99. He was 99 years old? Yeah. That nigga died at 99. He won Cowboy Plague of the Century. You were saying that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I saw that motherfucker holding his, bro, he was like six. Was that his proudest moment, you think? Man, bro, fuck, yeah. He dedicated his whole life to being a cowboy. So when he wins it, were you there when he won it? Hell yeah. And what is, I imagine he's not like the most emotional. I imagine he's like tough cowboy guy.
Starting point is 01:42:00 Yeah. And then he gets that, what happens? Nah, he just fucking holds it with a blank ass face. There's no moment where he breaks and like he's just like he's never stopped yeah he was proud of it or what he could tell like i mean even when my memo died his wife like he didn't show no emotion like he's always been just rugged like that and tough decide cowboy the century even the year makes some kind of sense the The century. What'd he do? Man, bro, he was certified, bro. He held it down for Markham. Everybody knew him.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Everybody, all, every, there would be ranchers that would come to him and he would break their horses for them. No way. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? He was certified. So what was his elite skill was, it was breaking horses? Yeah, and maintenance. And maintenance.
Starting point is 01:42:41 You know, because he had his own farm in Markham. Yeah. Which is like a little over. Son, that horse breaking shit is crazy. Yeah. People don't realize. Yeah. Have you done that? Have you broken a horse? Man, I've tried.
Starting point is 01:42:52 You know what I'm saying? The crazy thing about it is you can die. Now that you've gained a little weight, it might be easier to break. It don't matter about weight. It just takes patience. Yeah. And that's what I ain't got. But also it's terrifying because if they buck you. I ain't matter about weight. It just, it takes patience. And that's what I ain't got. But also it's terrifying because if they buck you.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I ain't gonna lie, it's not so much terrifying because if that motherfucker don't listen, I grab by his bottom lip and twist it and pull it where I need it to go. Even if you're on top of it? No, because I got the reins. I'm just saying like, when you're on one of these horses,
Starting point is 01:43:23 you are vulnerable. And you get thrown off and you're on one of these horses, you are vulnerable. And you get thrown off, and you're breaking a bone, guaranteed, or something. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I don't know. Just that cowboy life is... You think of it as rugged because you think about the cowboys and Indians, them shooting each other.
Starting point is 01:43:38 That's probably the most chill part of their life. I thought that shit was cool. The hard part is building the fences and fucking breaking these horses. Yeah. Do you think you want to have kids one day? Hell yeah, man. I want to have a football team.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Oh, really? Hell yeah. I missed out on that shit, you know? What do you mean, missed out on it? Like, I missed out on my own childhood, so, like, I get to, like, give my son the childhood I wanted. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:44:02 And still learn new shit on being a father. And you want to wait, but do you want to have kids while you're still rapping, while you're still actively touring, or do you want to be... Hell yeah, I'm probably going to have a baby right now.
Starting point is 01:44:15 You got a girl? No, I'm saying, like, I'm probably going to start, you know? Before a girl? Yeah, I'm going to figure it out. I mean, do you have a girl? Yeah. Oh, you do it out. I mean, do you have a girl? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Oh, you do? Yeah. How long you been with her? Been with her for a while. And is she cool with the transition in your life? She's figuring it out. It's because it's tough for them too, bro. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It's- Me not home all the time and shit, you know? Not only you not home, because when you're there, you can reinforce her. She feels love. She feels all the things, right? Yeah. But now that you're not home, you're getting more and more famous. More and more people want your attention.
Starting point is 01:44:52 More and more people want your time. But it's good for me to knock it out now, you know? Yeah. I mean, you have to do it. Yeah. This is what you got to do for your family, for everything. Right. But at the same time, I have empathy for what they go through as well.
Starting point is 01:45:05 Hell yeah, bro. It's not easy, especially because they know what's up. Like, you know what I'm saying? They're not dumb, bro. Mm-hmm. I feel like there's a lot of times they catch on to it and don't even say nothing. What do you mean? Like, anything like that.
Starting point is 01:45:18 I feel like they're, like, because, you know, they're women. They got that estrogen. Like, they follow that. They're feeling different things. They're feeling more like us. They're sensitive, yeah. Like us. Like, for an example, us, we're women. They got that estrogen. Like, they follow that. They're feeling different things. They're feeling more like us. Intuitive, yeah. Like us. Like, for an example, us, we're going to go out there.
Starting point is 01:45:28 My dad put this in an example for me. He said, like, us, we're going to go out there. You know, our baby going to be like, no, I just don't have a good feeling about it. Their intuition. That's what it is. Yeah, yeah. Us, we're like, man, fuck that. Because we got our testosterone, so we're not going to go with it.
Starting point is 01:45:43 It's interesting. You know, so, like, that leads me to say they know what's up. Like, they be feeling that shit. Did your dad ever give you game with girls? Hell yeah, he gave me game with everything. Like, for what? What would he say? I would just mostly watch him.
Starting point is 01:45:57 It was observed, right? Like, how he would operate. Yeah, for sure. But he knew what he was doing. Because he was performing a little bit. He's like, my son is here, so I need to represent a way that he needs to be. I remember one time he showed me this girl Brooke. He said, Brooke, show my son how you do it.
Starting point is 01:46:11 And she took her bra off and fucked them titties up. Get out of here. She flexed them hoes. Promise to you. Foof, foof. I was like, damn, Brooke. Whoa. I was like 15, I think.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Get out of here. When did you lose your virginity? Maybe about... 22. 22. 22. Nah, I ain't gonna lie, I was young, bro. Did you tell your dad about it right after? Hell no, I ain't tell nobody.
Starting point is 01:46:39 Oh, really? Really, you don't think he would've been stoked? Nah, cause I was young. Oh, like young, young. And I don't even think he was really around like that at the time. I was definitely in Bay City. Sixth grade, however old you are in sixth grade. Sixth grade.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Yeah. That's early. I probably wasn't even shooting full net. You know what I'm saying? Definitely were not. Compression air, you know what I'm saying? That were not. Compressed air, you know what I'm saying? That's funny. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Oh, that's wild. That's cool. So you see him around ladies, and you're observing what the way to be is. Hell yeah. And then, you know, I grew up with my nanny, too, you know? She would kick game as well? Nah, but I got to observe how women was. You know, I had my mama, you know what I'm saying? I grew up with my nanny, too, you know? She would kick game as well? Nah, but I got to observe how women was. You know, I had my mama, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:47:28 I grew up with her. She always had my tia around. She had nothing but sisters, you know what I'm saying? So I got to observe them and see how they act and things like that and roll with it. It seems, yeah, yeah, you spent a lot of your younger years observing and digesting. Yeah, yeah, you spent a lot of your younger years observing and digesting. Yeah, I feel like when you're, yeah, about from maybe like, I'd say about three to 12, you're like fully soaking everything up. But I think that's also like a lot of times where the artist comes out is because your only way to express yourself is through the art. It's through the music or painting or jokes or whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:48:03 I think a lot of times when you just feel comfortable talking all the time you don't necessarily need that outlet You know, so maybe music becomes this outlet where you're like, oh I get attention from these adults. They like what I'm doing yeah, I was right battling growing as me my dad will wake me up before school and I'll be like I gotta get ready for school. It's like fuck school. You ready to go down there whoop ass And you would just body these motherfuckers? I'm talking about eat them up. No way. Would they ever get tight?
Starting point is 01:48:28 Hell yeah. My dad would be like, touch them. He wanted to smoke so bad. You got to understand, bro. It'd be a house full of women. There'd be so many women. I remember they'd be sitting on the stairs. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:48:41 We were living in a duplex. So we in a small one living room right into the kitchen. Like 15. No! Yeah, sometimes 20. Because my dad was moving that shit and they all loved him. Like I said, he had that energy, bro. He had red carpet everywhere. He get treated like a rapper, he not even a rapper.
Starting point is 01:48:58 Oh, wow. Yeah. So ladies everywhere, dudes come through, they think they're nice at rapping and they're rapping in front of women. So they're going to be embarrassed if they're getting murdered. And then you are just. Eating them alive. And then my dad would like call a taxi or have one of his own take me to school.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Get the fuck out of here. Bro, that is crazy. And were the girls, were they like affectionate with you? Hell yeah, bro. I think on the court, I think one of them went up there and got on me. Get out of here. But I was sleepy. I remember she asked me, she was like,
Starting point is 01:49:30 first, you ever felt like you woke up and felt like you had sex? And I was like, yeah. Wow. And she was like, that was a demon fucking you. Like you had sex with a demon. And I was like, what the fuck? And I remember it was early. You got to understand. Heartnaked man with a demon and I was like what the fuck and I remember it's You gotta understand bro, and then like yeah, I just I kind of crashed out I went I was like went to sleep right after that
Starting point is 01:49:55 Yeah, whoa, what's your cue? Yeah, that was all that was all she was I think she like a mixed-breed mutt Yellow bomb bitch look like piss. Boom. That's that Southern shit. You can't get away with that. Lone Star Luchador. Go listen immediately. What's the next single you think you're putting out?
Starting point is 01:50:23 Probably, hopefully the opera too with me and Max. We dressed up as some luchadores. We actually had real luchadores there too. Shout out to them. Have you ever gone and seen it in Mexico City? No, I haven't, but I want to. I believe it. You've gone? I went for my bachelor party to Mexico City.
Starting point is 01:50:37 We all went down there. Bachelor party? A bachelor party, bro. I don't know. I don't even think I'm going to get married bachelor party, bro. I don't know. What do you mean? I don't even think I'm going to get married. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:49 That's fair. You don't have to. I'll probably definitely have kids, but I don't think I want to get married. You don't have to. You might want to one day. We'll see. I think we'll be happy without it. But the Lucha Libre.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Yeah. It is. What I would say the coolest thing about it is I wasn't familiar with the characters, and I was more entertained than when I've seen WWE and I know the characters. Oh, yeah. Because it's about the choreography, a lot of it. Yeah. Like, it is so athletic, bro.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Yeah, they get down, bro. These guys are doing crazy shit. Hell, yeah, bro. Shawn Michaels was a bad motherfucker. So that's, imagine it was, what is it, the guy from Triple X, remember that? Shawn Michaels? No, no, bro. Shawn Michaels was a bad motherfucker. So that's, imagine it was, what is it? The guy from Triple X, remember that? Shawn Michaels? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Something gun. Oh, Triple X? X-Pac. D-Generation X. X-Pac, D-Generation X. X-Pac. Do you remember X-Pac? D-Generation X?
Starting point is 01:51:36 Yeah, yeah. That's Triple H and Shawn Michaels. No, no, no, no. X-Pac. We have a little skinny guy. Do you remember X-Pac? There was a big dude and a little skinny guy. No.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Doesn't matter. Anyway, he would do tons of athletic shit. So just imagine there's three dudes, there's six dudes in the ring all the time and all of them are that fucking athletic. All of them are that athletic, doing the wildest shit. It's like a dance almost. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, it was awesome. I believe it. I bet that shit looked wild.
Starting point is 01:52:01 And then like you said, some of those things are real though, like half-ass real. If you hit the ground, you hit the ground. Yeah, that's what I You got it. And then, like you said, some of those things are real, though, like half-ass real. If you hit the ground, you hit the ground. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Ain't nothing fake about him. The pain is real. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:52:12 Definitely. Yeah, getting thrown through a table, you can't fake. That's what I'm saying. Is the outcome scripted? Sure. But what gets you
Starting point is 01:52:19 to the outcome is painful, bro. Yeah, hell yeah. You got to be a bad motherfucker. And that's why they bad motherfuckers because sometimes, a lot of times, it's not painful. They know how to fall. You know what I'm saying? Oh, it's like skateboarding where those guys learn how to fall where it's not as bad.
Starting point is 01:52:35 You know, I roll with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. I remember eating shit skating. I used to skate at House Park in Austin. And? Downtown Austin. Just get fucked up?
Starting point is 01:52:42 I met Hobson out there. He was skating. Oh, really? He was skating. Oh, really? I met P-Rod out there, Sheckler. You met Sheckler? Downtown Austin. Just get fucked up? I met Hobson out there. He was skating. Oh, really? He was skating. Oh, really? I met P-Rod out there, Sheckler. You met Sheckler? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:49 Were you nice at skateboarding? You were like low-key athletic, though. That's the thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And I'm that type of person where even backflips, even kickflips, anything I learned, I just needed to see it a few times. Could you kickflip? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:01 I think the craziest flip I could do was a tri flip. Oh, wow. Hold on. You got to make a skate part. You got to do a part, bro. Dude, skating in motherfucking cowboy boots with a cowboy hat is going viral. Dude.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And you know what's crazy? Fuck, please let me find these videos. Skate videos? Yeah, I got a video of me skating. I think I had some dunks on, camo, like the real tree pants, and I was wearing my cowboy hat. Let me see this. Let me see the skate videos. I got to tell her to send, and I think I had some dunks on, camo, like the real tree pants, you know, shirt and my cowboy hat. Let me see this.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Let me see the skate videos. I got to tell you this. Send them to me. Hold on. That's crazy. That part of you isn't even out there at all. Yeah. Hell no. Wait, have you purposely not put it out there, or?
Starting point is 01:53:38 No, I just, I just, I don't ever want to seem like that dude that's just faking a funk. That's why. You're not faking it. You're there before you're rapping. You're doing it because you love it. Yeah, but you know how the media is. Fuck that shit.
Starting point is 01:53:50 But if you can kickflip, it's like... Son, if you can kickflip, you real. Like, bro. We had Tony Hawk on the pod, right? You obviously know Tony Hawk. Of course. I saw him perform at X Games in Austin. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Yeah, it was cool as fuck. He was on that big ass fucking- The half pipe. Oh my God. But he said he was on some show or something that he thought he was just going to be a celebrity guest. And they were like, Tony, can you kickflip or something like that? And he was like, sure. Now, he's a vert dude.
Starting point is 01:54:18 He's not like a street skating dude. And he was like, he's going into the kickflip. He's going like, I haven't landed a kickflip first time in a while. He's like, it's 50-50, I'm going to land this. This is the greatest vert skater ever. Like, completely transformed the sport. He ends up landing, of course. All I'm saying is if you're
Starting point is 01:54:35 busting out kickflips like that, nobody's questioning whether you skate. Oh yeah, hell yeah. Go find a video, bro. I got her sending it to me. I don't have them. I got her sending it to me. There's a skate park in Lake Jackson. It's not me doing no crazy shit, but I'm definitely riding the park. You know? Oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:54:50 That's got to be a music video. Like a full skate park. That'd be crazy. Yeah. All right, before you go, I want to hear about the story where you were chased by the cops and you pissed yourself. Yeah, I pissed myself like 12 times that night trying to stay warm. But explain the buildup to that. All right, so we're coming from Brazoria and we're going into
Starting point is 01:55:07 Lake Jackson and these are small country towns and I remember I'm riding in the car. You got it? Crazy, huh? Yeah. I don't know. I'm waiting for her to send some more. Okay, go on. Anyways, uh,
Starting point is 01:55:22 oh yeah, we're coming from Missouri into Lake Jackson and somebody driving, passenger seat, somebody right here, and I'm right here behind the passenger seat. And I know these dudes, but they all know each other better. You know what I'm saying? Like, they grew up
Starting point is 01:55:40 with each other. I'm kind of just like, I'm cool with them, you know what I'm saying? And I got some slides on that I just got for Christmas. They were like champ slides, some socks, pants with no underwear and a jacket with no shirt on. A zip up jacket with no shirt. And I'm skinny at the time. And we get pulled over, I see the lights, and I'm like, oh shit, cuz, if I can get his ticket, we finna get right back on. And he fucking, they all three look at each other, and I was like, oh shit, you know, what's up? And they get this book back, and they throw it at me, and they're like, man, you gotta run, I ain't gonna hold you, cuz. And within that split, I'm fucked up, you know?
Starting point is 01:56:21 So within that split second of me being fucked up and trying to think about it, I'm like, shit, I i'm either a friend of they uh they finna come to this car they probably weren't even gonna search us i would probably just trip and yeah you know what i'm saying hey i was just probably tripping and um and they they you know i either knew that they're gonna come and they're gonna search us and nobody gonna own up to it and if nobody owned up to it man everybody going to jail you know because it's in here we had it was it was some and uh and i ain't love jumping out the cars like i gotta go i got a better chance with just making it on my own so i grabbed the hoe and took it and uh i jumped the fence my slides fell off my feet and i took off running and i'm running on all this land with the work yeah and uh on somebody's and I'm running on all this land. With the work. Yeah, and on somebody's land.
Starting point is 01:57:06 No. Yeah, running through this shit and I fucking, you know, I run through a church and I fucking, you know what I'm saying, I do all this extra shit. I had to swim. While you're high. Yeah, high as fuck. I had to swim through a river to get to the other side of the land.
Starting point is 01:57:22 I'm in this water. I'm trying to hold on to a bar under the bridge, you know what I'm this water. I'm trying to hold on to a bar under the bridge. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm trying to stay underwater. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking they're coming after me and I see these lights. And I'm like, fuck, they're here.
Starting point is 01:57:34 It's the end. And I'm just praying, just fucking praying. Like, dog, why am I here? Why am I in this shit? Because I'm going just to go fuck with some shorties. This was not on my agenda. And I ended up
Starting point is 01:57:48 getting out the water. I poked my head out and I see the lights are gone. I'm like, fuck, they probably got them off and they're thinking I'm finna get out
Starting point is 01:57:54 thinking that they're gone. So I'm sitting in here even longer and it's cold as fuck. The wind's blowing. It's fucking raining. You know what I'm saying? And they're like,
Starting point is 01:58:02 fuck it, he's in the woods. I'm sure that's why they left. you gotta send, like, it was a rainy-ass night that night. It was cold as fuck, the wind blowing hard as shit. And there's hogs out there. They're not worried about me no more. I'm deep in there.
Starting point is 01:58:14 And I'm running, I'm running. I remember giving up. I just laid down. I had cotton out. I'm like, fuck, I laid there. Like, fuck, they just going to have to come get me. Fully gave up. And then I laid there for like five seconds, ten seconds.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I said a quick gasp, got up, and I kept running and fucking... I ain't no, you know, keep running. I'm fucking running through a... I'm running in like about ankle-deep water now, you know what I'm saying? I had to jump a barbed wire fence and cut the crotch of my pants all the way to my ankle leg. So now this whole entire leg getting smacked by cold ass wind and hell Hell yeah, I had to fucking like military crawl through land so people wouldn't see me You know, I was fucked off. Whoa. Yeah, it was crazy cold as fuck ended up laying down right here and I fucking
Starting point is 01:58:59 I was kept falling asleep and I'd fucking doze off and And every dream that I had, I was at my grandpa's house. But I would always dream of being in a different area. So my first dream, I was on the back patio and I was smoking with him. And I'm like, all right, grandpa, I'm going to go to bed. And you ever go to your bed and just kind of like just plop on it? So I'd do that. And every time, boom, I hit the bed, I'd wake up. And I had that dream like five times.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Eventually, I just got fucking mad and woke up and got back on the run. I'm like, fuck that dream. But while I'm sleeping, I'm fucking, I'd wake up and I would just piss. And I'd keep my hands right here. I'd try to keep it, you know, keep warm. And it's cold as fuck. All this rain hitting me and shit, so I'm pissing like a motherfucker, you know? Oh, I was stepping in cow shit, too.
Starting point is 01:59:47 I was trying to keep my toes warm. I stepped first. First, I stepped in cow shit, and I was like, ugh, I stepped in fucking cow shit. And then I was like, fuck, this is how I keep my toes warm. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Yeah, I was... Crazy. Yeah, I was wild. So wait, everything worked out? You got away? Yeah, hell yeah. I ended up getting to my cousin's house. I was like, that motherfucker had to, like, take my clothes off for me clothes off for me because I was like so weak I had to jump in the shower
Starting point is 02:00:08 I was sick as fuck like two weeks after that What happened the guys you with? Yeah, they shot a lot somebody got locked up and shit cuz we was all young He did try to say they got since the juvenile shit. I mean fuck that did they ask for the work back? Hey, yeah, the first thing they asked me was where's the shit? What'd you say? I said, it's fucking gone. But if I had it, it's mine. Did you have it? Hell no.
Starting point is 02:00:30 I threw it in that water. I didn't want to get caught with it. Oh, that's crazy. Have you ever been arrested? Yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:38 But like, man, get me out of there. I bond out quick. Why? You're a fucking jail. Hell no, bro. No TV, no phone. I can't go without my phone. You know what I'm talking about. Hell no, bro. No TV, no phone. I can't go without my phone. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:00:48 I got a shit in front of everybody. I don't mind shit in front of everybody. I ain't going to lie. Never mind. I can't do it. I shit on the side of the road one time. I was walking to the complex, and I was like, I just had the BGs, and I couldn't hold it. And this shit took my shirt off, wiped my ass, went right back.
Starting point is 02:01:03 We played soccer that night. Wow. With your own shirt, bro. I went shirtless that night. You wiped your ass with the shirt? Fuck, I was gonna wipe it with.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Yeah, that's a good move. On a cold night, some criminal probably ran through that shit and was like, let's keep my toes on it. Yeah. That's a nice shirt
Starting point is 02:01:19 I found full of shit. What's one man's trash is the next man's come up. Exactly. Dude, that is crazy man Bro What a life You're the man dude
Starting point is 02:01:27 We really appreciate you Coming on the pod man This has been so great brother I really appreciate you Any way we can help you Let us know man Of course man Thank you
Starting point is 02:01:35 Man go check out Lone Star Luchador right now Listen to it Everywhere you listen to music And go tap in man That Mexican OT on Instagram What else? Yeah everything is That Mexican OT on Instagram. What else?
Starting point is 02:01:46 Yeah, everything's that Mexican OT. I've actually been wanting to start twitching on video because I play a lot of video games. Oh, hell yeah. I might as well start doing that, you know?
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yeah, get on it. I know my fans would want to see it. For sure. All right, so go find him. Go find him on all things. And I'm excited for the Steve Ray Vaughn collab.
Starting point is 02:02:02 I'm excited for that. Yeah, that's going to be stupid. That move right there, man. Hell yeah. Dude, so stupid. I want to play at the rodeo. I want to walk out singing Troubadour. That's why I'm trying to learn acoustic right now.
Starting point is 02:02:12 You're going to play it? Yeah. Yo, what if you get the guitarron, bro? That would be crazy. We're going to figure it out, man. I got some shit up my sleeve. God bless.

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