Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Tim Dillon on Shane Gillis’ SNL, Putin & Tucker Interview, and How Baby Boomers Ruined the World

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Yerrr, Tim Dillon came through to break down what's up with Russia and Putin, tell us about George Soros, explain what's wrong with each generation, and much much more. INDULGE 00:00 Intro 2:55 How d...o we make the 1% more appealing? 06:44 Tim’s mentally ill friendship group + Jan 6 was for fun 10:11 AOC, Biden’s hubris + Dem’s problem with Israel-Gaza 14:16 Michelle Obama for President + Obama is bi? 17:27 Tim’s kill list is incoming 20:31 Russia, Navalny conspiracies + Putin’s interview with Tucker 29:56 Dillon’s wealth, legacy families + diversifying your money 35:30 Katie Porter masquerade + everyone’s a hero 45:22 Self-immolation is great promo + solving Israel-Palestine 56:03 US is great at some things + everything up for sale 1:01:31 US is still tits out 1:16:57 George Soros rival to Koch Brothers? 1:24:38 Big money owning all resources + BlackRock’s influence 1:31:00 Tim loves being on his island + war is great for Tim 1:37:36 Tim’s book “Death by Boomers” + from Greatest to Ghoulish 1:48:23 Woodstock Generation is the big lie 1:50:33 Millennials crave praise + Zoomers’ nihilism 2:03:29 Tim’s constantly on tour BUY TICKETS 2:04:33 Tim’s would vote for RFK Jr 2:07:58 Shane did a great job + SNL pressure 2:11:20 Tim would have Putin on + we’re the biggest victims

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They used to call us fat f**ks. My friend's mother, Barbara. How old are you? 14. She would roll down the window of her Saturn, she'd smoke a cigarette, and she'd go, where are you fat f**ks? So...
Starting point is 00:00:12 It really exposes the lie of the Woodstock generation. We see them as this progressive, free-loving gen- they were just selfish drug addicts. I think Obama is probably bisexual. And then Tucker like went around Moscow making like YouTube videos. It's weird to be a 50-year-old YouTuber. He's making Melkboy-style videos in a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I think it's a great story. I think people are supporting Shane. He did an amazing job. If the boomers can be explained in one sentence, it's a woman sitting down drinking a coffee going, the Irish were slaves too. What's up, everybody? Welcome to Flagrant.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Today we are joined by an illustrious guest. It's amazing that he's even here right now. There's been a tragic death in the family. Lord Jacob Rothschild has died, but Tim Dillon is still here. How? How did you pull through? Well, you know, when someone has an impact on you, as he did, he made a huge impact on me and my family. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:08 You know, it's, you want them to be at peace. Yeah. And, you know, he suffered a long time. Like 87 years of suffering. You know, it was 87 years, and he finally escaped his human form. Yeah. You know what I mean? Transcended.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Transcended. He went back to, you know, he went back to the core of the earth where he lives. You think he went down? I think he's in the center.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I think he spent some time in the center to just kind of, you know, work things out. You know, but not straight up. He's not going straight up.
Starting point is 00:01:39 No, I don't know if he's going up at all. I don't know if he wants to be up. I don't think he wants to be up. No. The family reunion's downstairs. Yeah, it's in the core. There's a molten core where Lord Jacob Rothschild is just kind of sitting there now.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Who is this guy? Very wealthy, you know, member of one of the most famous and talked about families of all time. But was he like a major player? Was he just a trust fund kid that kind of. No, he's a player. You know, I mean, you know, they're very, very good at keeping their name kind of out of the press. So, I mean.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah. You know, what he did or didn't do or how powerful any people are in that family. You know, you kind of have to guess because there's a lot of, you know, websites that will tell you that everything, that every stoplight is them. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 It's going on in the weather. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All in Taylor Swift and the Super Bowl and all of it. Are they called Taylor? I mean, I'm sure. It's just because a lot of it is silly. Yeah. But they are incredibly powerful
Starting point is 00:02:40 and they're very good at keeping themselves kind of in the background of the photo. So in the photo, there's like people that we all know, the leaders of countries and everything. And in the background, it's kind of, you know, they're off to the side, but they're there. Yeah. They're hanging. Yeah. They're interesting. Tim, I'm really excited you're here because I feel like there is a problem. And I feel like, uh, with the Rothschilds. Okay. Well, I'm not just glad that's why I was brought up. It's not just the Rothschilds. Okay. Well, not just the Rothschilds. Glad that's why I was bronzed. It's not just the Rothschilds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:06 It's that I feel now, more than any time in history, there's been a lot of negativity towards the 1% and the billionaire. Yeah. Yeah. What can we do to change that? Well, I would say I agree with you. First of all, a thousand percent. It's not their fault. That's number one. It's really not.. It's not their fault.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Number one. It's really not. It's really not their fault. That's the excitement right now. And it's not their fault because, you know, I think they could take it down a notch. Could they? Well, yeah, because a little bit I say to them, I go, if I'm doing the event, don't publicize every space mission. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Do some sneaky ones. Do one late at night. Yeah. All the boys. We're going up at night. Have everybody in Santa Barbara think it's aliens. Right. It's aliens.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It's fun. I think when you start calling the press and going, here's my spaceship, people start to get angry. They resent that? They don't like it. There's a guy right now, Ken Griffin. Yes, Ken. Citadel, is that Ken? Citadel. He's building right now, and this is too much.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm going to tell you what. A billion dollar house in Palm Beach. I love Palm Beach. One billion dollars by the way, and here's why it's too much. It's for his mother. He thought he was going to get away with it. That bitch is dead soon. He's moving right in.
Starting point is 00:04:27 It's too much to say those words. I'm spending a billion dollars to build the most expensive house in the world and then it's all for mom. Yeah. That is going to get people.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Did he think that that was a good enough shield to protect him from the harassment? I think he was trying to sound sweet. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And he was kind of like, if you had this, wouldn't you build a billion-dollar house for his mother? Let's just answer that question right now. Yeah, right. Not at all. Not at all. You guys got to love your mother. Are you spending a billion dollars? My mother would ruin a billion-dollar house with Hess trucks and Beanie Babies.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Collectible. The worst. My mother would just, anything I bought her, she would destroy it with knickknacks and chachis. That's the reason. Oh, the worst. Yeah, yeah. She's just going to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Snow globes she stole from a hotel in Vegas are now littered all over a Palm Beach estate. Hockey's hoodie. So you think the billionaires are going too far. They're flexing on the gram a little bit too much. If it was 900 million, that's not a problem? I think it's actually maybe almost because that B is the line in the sand.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It's saying like, I think he wants one bill. He's doing it. It's $1 billion. It is a billion dollars. It's a billion dollars. So that in and of itself makes people go. It's like that first episode of Billions where they tell Bobby Oxrod, they go, just don't buy the house. And he's like, I'm buying it.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And he goes, I'm going to buy the house. So I get it. Somebody told him. Somebody went to him and went, hey, don't do it. There's a few billionaires talk. And they're like, hey, man, I get it. Yeah. I get it.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He already owns the most expensive apartment in New York City. Yeah. He was the Wall Street bets guy, right, that they were betting against. Was that him? He was one of them. Yeah, I believe. He was the guy who I think Citadel owned Robinhood. And he was using the data from Robinhood to make trades at his hedge fund Citadel.
Starting point is 00:06:12 There we go. Yeah. So he was like beating the trades that he was taking. It's kind of a genius fucking thing to do. But. He's a smart guy. But I think a few people were probably like, hey man, don't do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It's a billion dollars. Yeah. For a single family house. That's crazy. On an island where the average price of a house is probably north of 10, 15 million, meaning these are all very rich people already and you're being gross.
Starting point is 00:06:40 They're looking at you like you're an asshole. Do you know how, because every time we hang out, you'll tell me a hilarious story about these people you've collected in your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you have an absolutely mind-boggling friend group. There's, yes, yes. They are, their minds are boggled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So when you're interacting with some of these people. Yeah. Are you, are they like expecting you to keep it real with them? Are you brought there to be like, he's going to be on. Never. Never. Never. What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Never, ever, ever. So you go right along with it all. The most fun thing about a lot of people in my life is that they're mentally ill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that your comfort zone? Yeah, I mean, they're crazy. My mother was crazy when I grew up. So I would never try to bring a crazy person down to Earth.
Starting point is 00:07:31 It defeats the purpose. It's not fun. It's actually not fun. You want the roller coaster. Imagine hanging out with Donald Trump and going like, but you know... Take it off a little. I mean, maybe that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would ruin the whole thing. You're just along for the ride. Yeah. There's a point when the ride isn't fun anymore and you've got to get off the ride. When does that happen? Well, things can turn dark. Okay, like what?
Starting point is 00:07:55 You know, people can just like, you know, go from fun crazy to not fun crazy. Where, you know, I have friends that moved down to Florida and they got very into like, you know, they're very political. Some of them went really hard right wing. Yeah, yeah. They go to Mar-a-Lago all the time. Yeah. And their brains have just melted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You know, I'm not a guy that cares what anyone feels politically. They're drinking their Kool-Aid a little too much. They're just, every conversation. It's become their entire identity. I hate that. Every conversation is politics and like, do you know what's going on? Always talking about they.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I can't believe it. And it's just kind of like, guys, there's more to life. There's a little more to life. Even though they're right. Well, you know what it is? They're having fun. They're having such a good time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That's why the Capitol riot, it's clearly wrong, but they're having so much fun. Have you ever seen it? Are you not going to go in? Yeah. They've never had that much fun. They're smiling. They're laughing. They probably, many of them, you know, they don't get out a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:59 This is a new experience. This is all rioting. No, no. It's March Madness. Have you seen an underdog team storm the court after a victory? Right. That's January 6th. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 You couldn't believe. Wait, we actually got in. No, they're in. They're having fun. They're taking selfies. It's also rioting and looting the Apple store. Like, how fun is that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But you know what? Here's the issue with that. Those are black people. Yeah. Come on. It's the skin color. The left-wing rioters don't look like they're having fun. I beg to differ.
Starting point is 00:09:29 They don't look like they're having fun. No, they're scared. They're in masks and everything. These people in the Capitol are there. They got their feet up on clothes. They've got fur. They've got hats. It's a parade.
Starting point is 00:09:41 I'm not saying it's right. It's not right. It's not good. But if we're just looking at degree of parade. Now, I'm not saying it's right. It's not right, it's not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if we're just looking at degree of fun- White people know how to do it. They seem like they're having a lot of fun. Because they believe they're not gonna get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Why would they? They go, this is my country, it's my country. That was their thought process. They're like, this is my country. I'm not doing it in Russia, I'm in America. This is my Congresswoman, I can chase her into the bathroom. It's my Congresswoman. Why can't I chase her?
Starting point is 00:10:08 We need to have more entitlements. Yeah. Do you know AOC was at a Matt Rife show? No way. She was at Radio City. I thought that was Lisa Ann that got kicked out. No, it was AOC. It was AOC?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Get out of here. But no, she was at a Matt Rife show. And how'd it go? At Radio City. You think he took that down? I don't know. Well, she dates some pasty bearded dude. Step up. Adam Matt Rife show up at Radio City. You think he took that down? I don't know. Well, she dates some pasty bearded dude.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Step up. You know, for sure. But I think that's part of the leftist cred. Which is? Dating a pasty bearded guy. Dating down. Dating a guy who is intellectually exciting to your group. Oh, see, I would think she needs to go,
Starting point is 00:10:48 because everything is on some hierarchy of socioeconomic perception or whatever. So I would think she needs to date a black dude who transitioned. No. No, she's into minority enough. She's minority enough. Exactly. So now she just dates this guy who rewards her ideas.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Brooklyn Socialist, PBR. Yes. That's every comic from 2008 to 2015. That's every comedian that was on television that was doing a show in Brooklyn that would get up and do a joke about his parents being racist. That's bootleg Prince Harry right there.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Yeah. She's just going through a makeup market. This guy just finished a set of UCB Gut Bucket. Yeah, right, right, right. Okay, so AOC, I mean, the Democrats basically told her to be quiet, right? She's been real. Well, they got a real issue with the Israel-Gaza thing, and I think they're just trying to, you know, it's like a company
Starting point is 00:11:36 where they're trying to get everyone on the same page. And they can't. And they're like, hey, everybody, we're going to break room. You know, if you've ever worked at a company where they're like, you know, that article came out about us, and, you know, we could break room, you know, if you've ever worked at a company where they're like, you know, that article came out about us, and, you know, we have challenges, but, I won't touch the mic again, we have challenges, but we're gonna overcome them together,
Starting point is 00:11:55 and what we need everybody to do is just, you know, all those things. I'll be like, you know, it's all hands on deck. You know, we're just all gonna give it, you know, so I think that's what the Democrats are doing. They're trying to control their narrative, on deck. Yeah. No, we're just all going to give it, you know. So I think that's what the Democrats are doing. They're trying to control. Narrative.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Their narrative. And the voting base. Yeah. Is kind of. Fractured. Fractured big time. They're really fractured. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 So I think the whole convention I said on my show has to just be songs. Yeah. And no talking. Hill song. They just got to go Christian church. Yes. Whatever it is, they have to just do like a big musical review. And then like every time somebody goes, free Palestine, you go, boom. And then they just, you know, people come out.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Get into song. Guitars, drums are gone. Because you're not going to get everyone on the same page. You have to distract people from this question. Here's the thing that I've seen popping up. I didn't expect this, that now people are attacking Biden for having too much hubris. Interesting. You haven't seen this at all?
Starting point is 00:12:51 They're like, he refuses to step down. It's his ego, his arrogance. Like, I don't think he wants to be there at all. No, I think he's a boomer, and he's an old guy. He's maybe even older than a boomer. He's definitely older than a boomer But it's just part of that ethos of like He doesn't I don't think
Starting point is 00:13:11 He's like half in half out I don't think he's ever done anything I think he's just kind of there And I think the wife and the people around him are using him And I think they don't want to step down Oh really So handlers don't want The Wizard of are using Biden. So handlers don't want...
Starting point is 00:13:25 The Wizard of Oz behind Biden is making the things go and his hands go. The puppeteers, they don't want to step down. Shitty puppeteer for as much as Biden calls it. It's not Biden. It's the people behind him that don't want to step down. But who are they? These are people that...
Starting point is 00:13:41 Is that DNC? Well, maybe it's part of DNC, but I think it's a lot of people like Tony Blinken at the State Department, Victoria Nuland at the State Department, the people whose worldview is kind of front and center right now. Yeah. And I think those people like the idea that Biden is kind of doing everything they want in the Ukraine and Israel and places like that. And I think they don't. And no pushback at all. None. Yeah. So I think they don't- And no pushback at all. None.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So I think they don't want- It's really amazing. They really don't want to leave the stage. And then the people, of course, behind them don't want them to leave and all of that. Okay, so you have him locked in. All right, so then what happens with the election? You think Biden goes through with it? I think they yank him in May.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I'm going to make a prediction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? Give us, give us, give us. I'm going to make a big prediction right now. Okay. And I think they run Michelle Obama as big Mike. Big Mike? make a prediction. Really? Give us, give us, give us. I'm going to make a big prediction right now. Okay. And I think they run Michelle Obama as Big Mike. Big Mike?
Starting point is 00:14:28 As a man. Big Mike is back. They want her as Big Mike because it's- The paddleboard instructor from Martha's Vineyard, Big Mike is back. Big Mike is back. It dominates the news. Trump can't get any coverage. He's screaming.
Starting point is 00:14:42 He's crying. Alex is squirming. He's yelling. But because it's a way that there's only one way. So you get a fucking, what is it, a matcha latte? I mean, I'm just saying you have to. You have to do that. You have no choice.
Starting point is 00:14:56 You got to run Big Mike. She's, oof. Yeah. You have to do that. I did a slip up there. I did a little something. No, but do you think Big Mike, Al. Do you think Big Mike... Remember the paddle surfer, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:07 That can happen. But do you think that Big Mike could win? Michael Jordan? Do you think Michelle Obama? Oh, yeah, absolutely. In all seriousness, I don't think she wants to do it. I think they've approached her multiple times.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I don't think she wants to do it. And they they've approached her multiple times. Yeah, I agree. I don't think she wants to do it. And they'll just keep killing people around her until she succumbs? I think— I mean, they killed the paddle boarder, right? Well, I think he was—I've always believed— Yeah, what have you always believed? I think Obama is probably bisexual. I think the paddle boarder is a really hot, ripped chef.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I'm just saying, if I was a ripped paddle boarder and was kind of reportedly writing a book that might have been loosely based on... Smoking out your husband. You know, maybe I would also drown in two feet of water outside of my boss's estate, which I was using when he wasn't home,
Starting point is 00:16:00 which never happened. That's kind of weird that your chef would do that. You've got to be really close to your chef. Does your maid call you and go, can I use the apartment when you're on the road? All the time. Yeah, you go, Venezuela, come on in. Bring the family.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Absolutely. Come on in. I'm on the road. I'm in Abu Dhabi. Get in there. It's interesting that he's using the estate when he's not there. Yeah, peculiar. And he dies.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I'm not saying, I just think maybe sometimes. If you're going to use the estate and write a book about how you're fucking me, you deserve to die. Maybe that's what happened. That's too much. I don't know. But isn't that too much? It might be. Like if you're going to, well, that's not beard.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Beard is when. Beard is what's the woman who's pretending she is. Also, if you're going to kill him, wouldn't you wait until he's somewhere else? Like I'm not going to kill you anywhere near my property. They never do. You'd always think that. They never do. They don't give a fuck. It's impulse. It's fun. I think a little bit not going to kill you anywhere near my property. They never do. You'd always think that. They never do. They don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's impulse. It's fun. I think a little bit is you've got to have a little fun. Yeah. I really do. You think they need to spice it up for themselves?
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think they're basically just like, you know. We'll kill JFK. You think we can get away with RFK? And here's the thing. That's where you want to kill him if they kill him.
Starting point is 00:17:01 You want to kill him in Martha's Vineyard because that's where you live. That's where you know the cops. That's where you have all your friends. Nobody's around your estate. You know where all the cameras are. You know where everything is.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Home court advantage. Ah, yes. You get rid of them in a lake. If they did it. I don't know if they did it. Of course not. Don't tell me like, well, you're definitively saying they did it. Somebody's got to tell you fucking secrets.
Starting point is 00:17:20 There's somebody telling you shit. But maybe they did it. And if they did it, I don't blame them. I would have done it. And I have no problem with it. What's your kill you shit. But maybe they did it. And if they did it, I don't blame them. I would have done it. And I have no problem with it. What's your kill list? Oh my god. I mean, I don't, unfortunately, and it's sad, I don't even have one.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'm not there yet. There's much more I have to do before I get a kill list. Is there a number? I don't have real enemies. Yeah. A blogger gets mad at something I say and writes a nasty article? That's not, you don't kill that person. Yeah, and it also gets mad at something I say and writes a nasty article that's not, that you don't kill that person. Yeah. It also comes with like a level of power. Oh my God. Yeah. Wealth and fame are things we understand in America. We don't really understand power.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. And they understand power more in like Russia, countries like that, where it's kind of used like that. But yeah, I think that's the goal. You know, fingers crossed. Okay. Okay. I'm just at breakfast writing it down in ketchup. Is it in ketchup? America,
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Starting point is 00:19:13 Oh, Andrew! Congrats on baby! Hey, hey. How's fatherhood? Savvy. also guys dates first of all thank you to Oklahoma City sales war
Starting point is 00:19:35 dog shit and then all of a sudden we sold out at least one show we almost sold out two others that was fucking so cool and you guys were so great
Starting point is 00:19:43 and it's honestly a great city so shout out to Oklahoma, this weekend, I'm going to be in Greensboro, North Carolina, March 1st and 2nd, March 8th and 9th. I'm going to be in Stanford, Connecticut. That's right before something very big is coming that you will find out about soon. Also, Dania Beach, because of that something, I have to shift dates around. I'm sorry. It will only be March 16th. So we are only doing shows on Saturday. I apologize, but I needed to tell you guys first. April 11th through 13th, I'm going to be in Tempe, Arizona. April 18th through 20th, I'm going to be in Denver, Colorado. May 10th, Los Angeles Improv.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Netflix is a joke fest. Sold out the first show. We added a second. Y'all should probably sell that out now. I don't even know if we posted the link, quite frankly. Y'all are still buying tickets, which is fucking cool. Sell out Singh on the motherfucking way if we're lucky. AkashSingh.com for tickets. Let's get back to the show. Is it hypocritical at all? And of course not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:35 For Americans to be outraged that this Navalny guy could be clearly killed and act shocked by it as if we've never murdered in cold blood opposition to the authority. Well, we don't know. What's weird about that, there's no reason for Putin to kill Navalny. This is very interesting, actually. I have a little conspiracy on this. Okay. What if we took him out? Well, that would make—there's so much more of a reason for us to take him out.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Because Putin was looking like a darling in our media. First of all, Navalny's not that popular in Russia. This is the thing. He's been gone for many, you know, he was arrested when he came back to the country. He was in this Arctic prison, this polar wolf prison. He's not in any position to come out and run
Starting point is 00:21:17 in an election and defeat Putin. He's not a threat in any way. In any way. I'm not saying he wasn't killed. Navalny's also pissed off every oligarch in Russia by flying drones over their house and going, look what they bought. So the list of people that want to get rid of Navalny is a lot. I don't know what reason Putin had to kill him. That doesn't mean I'm obviously not in the prison.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't know. But he wasn't a huge threat to Putin. If, and I don't know if the CIA did it either, but if we did it because the Ukraine aid was stalled and we said, now's go time. We get rid of him. It makes Putin look like a monster. It unites Europe.
Starting point is 00:21:54 We can kind of push this aid package through. It would be cool. I want to know that they're doing cool things. We used to do cool shit. We used to do cool stuff. Kill foreign leaders, change governments. You know, they're not, these people are not crying about Navalny.
Starting point is 00:22:11 They don't care. Yeah. Navalny was a brave guy, but he was also a guy that started his career writing incredibly negative stuff about Jews and homosexuals. You don't say. Yeah, he was very like,
Starting point is 00:22:23 he was a very like Russian nationalist guy. Then the West started getting interested in him. He don't say. Yeah. He was very like, he was very like Russian nationalist guy. Then the West started getting interested in him. He changed his tune right away. Right away. Starts going, no, no, no, no, no. Let's stop all of that. And then he started espousing a lot of pro-Western stuff. Great.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And, you know. He's a grifter a little bit too. Well, he wants power. His only plan, his only political philosophy was really like, I want to rule this place. I'm going to be better than that guy. And, you know, maybe he would have. I don't know. But what do you think of why would Putin even do the Tucker interview?
Starting point is 00:22:58 What's the chess move there? To me, it felt a little desperate. No, I think it actually comes from a position of strength. He got an incredibly popular American journalist to not only come to Moscow and let him talk for two hours where he dominated the entire interview. Yeah. Dominated it.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Yeah. And then Tucker went around Moscow making YouTube videos. That was the corniest shit I've ever seen in my life. But here's the other thing. Look how cheap Cheerios are here. It's weird to be a 50-year-old YouTuber in Moscow. Yeah. Glazing Moscow. He's making Milk Boy-style videos in a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:23:37 He's like, look what I could get this sturgeon for. Also, small pushback on very powerful journalists. My feeling is he still has power for sure, but he's been a little bit ostracized, excommunicated. He's been ostracized for sure, but I do think that if we want to talk about getting attention, Tucker's name still- No, he's killing attention. He gets attention. He would be the only person that they could get, that Putin could get. No, he's the only person they would allow.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Like, Putin's not going to do, like, I think Putin. Megyn Kelly, I think, was the last one from traditional media. Yeah, I mean, I think Putin's only served if he, you know, brings in somebody who's kind of more open to his worldview than somebody who's got to, like, joust with him. Yes. So I think it was kind of a smart move. And if you watched the whole interview,
Starting point is 00:24:28 Putin, Dominic doesn't care about, this is very interesting, doesn't seem to care about Tucker's viewers, doesn't go into like trans bathrooms because that's what Tucker's viewers want. Putin goes, I don't care. I'm going to talk about the 1300s. I don't care about you.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I don't care about your question. I'm getting my message off. Prince Oleg. Tucker's viewers were like, talk about the 1300s. I don't care about you. I don't care about your question. I'm getting my message off. Prince Oleg. Tucker's viewers were like, talk about the bathrooms. I can't go in it. They're women, but they're men, but they're women. Putin goes, no, no, no, no, no. Prince Oleg was baptized.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And people are going, what the hell is going on? It's a total power move to bring somebody over and go, I don't care about your questions. I don't care about your viewers. I don't care about your viewers. Yeah. I'm just going to go. But can a power move be made from a position of weakness, I think is what we were asking. Like, you're going to grab this guy that you know you can bully and do the power move on because you're weak. Why is Putin weak, though?
Starting point is 00:25:18 He's winning the Ukraine war. Barely. The sanctions. It's the third overtime. It should have been over. It's the third. He's one of the powerful countries in the world. He's got 200 nuclear weapons. Putin. It should have been over. It's the third. He's one of the powerful countries in the world.
Starting point is 00:25:26 He's got 200 nuclear weapons. Putin doesn't want to destroy the entire country of the Ukraine. He went in there with not a ton of troops. Yeah. Putin never wanted the Ukraine. I think he wants a deal, and I think he's really trying to get to the state of the matter. He wants a deal.
Starting point is 00:25:38 The US is telling Ukraine not to negotiate. We're the ones that telling them we don't want a deal. We're fighting a proxy war with Russia through the Ukraine. We keep telling Zelensky no deal. There could have been a deal before the invasion. There could have been a deal with the Minsk Accords, which we told Zelensky not to sign. But the powers that be are getting paid. That's the thing that, like, a lot of people don't realize is that when we're giving money to Ukraine, we're not giving money to them.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No, it's a viral marketing campaign for, you know, for General Dynamics, right? Yeah, right. But explain that to them. That's like, because you see all these articles. They're like, can you believe it? They're starving Americans here. We're giving that to them. Because you see all these articles, they're like, can you believe it? They're starving Americans here. We're giving money to... They sign on a paper saying all of our weapons purchases are to
Starting point is 00:26:12 be from these NATO-approved contractors. Which just happen to be Lockheed and Boeing. Essentially, they're like, we're going to put Ukraine in NATO. It's coming. And Putin's like, you're not putting NATO missiles on the border of Russia. It's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Russia has been invaded through the Ukraine multiple times. Russia has been invaded multiple times in its history. Putin's like, it's not going to happen. If you do that, that is the line in the sand. That is the red line. And that's why we have a war. Now, obviously, it's not right. It's a war of aggression.
Starting point is 00:26:41 People are dying. It's sad. But the United States fully instigated this war and fully wants it and is enjoying it. So we're back to what we do well. We're doing it well. Yeah. That's why, like, why do we have to tuck our cocks between our legs? Fighting whites!
Starting point is 00:26:54 They're white! We stopped at the brown on browns! No, we got white. This is good! And then Tucker's going in there fucking it all up! I don't think he's fucking it up. I think he's making it interesting. I think we get bored.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Making a mockery! I think it's boring, and I think it's like we all check out. Remember when that guy— Oh, he's spicing it all up. I don't think he's fucking it up. I think he's making it interesting. I think we get bored. Making a mockery. I think it's boring, and I think it's like we all check out. Remember when that guy— Oh, he's spicing it back up. Yeah, because it gets boring. Ah. Yeah, we didn't watch it. We started to watch Israel and Gaza, because that came on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:27:15 And we're like, ooh. That's the new shit. Oh, this is interesting. And that game was way better. And then— It's like when Real Housewives of New Jersey brought back Danielle. You need Danielle. Danielle is going to spice it up. I hate it, I know. It needs Danielle's boss. Danielle is great. She's energy. It's like when Real Housewives of New Jersey brought back Danielle. You need Danielle. Danielle is going to spice it up.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I hate that I know. It needs Danielle's thoughts. Danielle is great. She's energy. It's an amazing. You need to bring in a villain so people can get excited again. Yes. And I think that's part of what we need to do.
Starting point is 00:27:37 So is Tucker a pawn? Is the State Department telling Tucker, hey, go over there. Tell him about the grocery. No, but I mean, he's allowed to do it. He's not suffering any consequences, nor should he. I mean, it's a free speech thing. But I think it serves everybody's purposes. He gets views.
Starting point is 00:27:53 He gets clicks. People get interested and excited. Putin gets to get his message out. A bit boring. He's not exactly fun. Oh, my God. But it's interesting. If you listen to him, you go, oh, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I mean, was it? I couldn't do it, dude. I like when he trolled Popper and he was like, you know, the CIA, an institution you tried to get in. That was good. He was ready. Putin's basically saying, I only respect people that are coming here to kill me. I only respect power. The media, to me,
Starting point is 00:28:24 means nothing. I don't care. We own it in Russia. You're a journalist. coming here to kill me. I only respect power. The media to me means nothing. I don't care. We own it in Russia. You're a journalist. That means nothing to me. Even if you agree with me, I would respect you if you were coming here to poison me. Because that's my people. That's what we do.
Starting point is 00:28:38 And when he said, they were always our enemies, he smiled a little bit. CIA goes, they were always our enemies. But he goes, you know, a job is a job. What he's basically saying is like, I respect them because that's the game. He was like, yo, they blew up the Nord Stream and he was like, they did a good job. Yeah, that's the game. You know what's fascinating is you, do you watch these things more than once? Because you analyze this the way
Starting point is 00:28:56 guys analyze all 22 after a football game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched that interview three times. Yeah, because you're picking up on shit that I'm like, I did not. Yeah, it's, Yeah, I just found it really interesting. Because that's the longest, you know, Putin, by the way, he gives speeches like this all the time in Russia. And they're incredibly boring. He talks about agriculture production in a province of Russia.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It's incredibly boring. People that live in Russia know that. Yeah. You know, they'll be like, the greatest speech, the speech to end all speeches. Yeah, yeah. You know, and then it's Putin just going on kind of about some pretty like Generic crap. Yeah, but this was like he's in his element talking for two hours about this this war that we have a
Starting point is 00:29:37 Very skewed picture of it. Do you think his health is better? I think he looks great. I think we keep writing Do you think his health is better? I think he looks great. I think we keep writing articles that he's dying and dead. What if he's a heart attack, a cancer, his pancreas? I think it's all a lie. I think it's all a lie.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I think he's fine. He looks great. Compare him to our guy. Hold on. Who would you want? I know. Our guy looks better. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:56 There's a migrant crisis. Yeah. Now, it is my understanding that all of your homes, many of which that you have, congratulations, you've had a lot of success. We have.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Well-deserved. It's fine. I'm in the middle class. I know. Yeah. I know. I'm in the middle class. I've seen the homes.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Very middle class. Very middle class. They are, though. You know? Yeah. They are. When you say that, you mean you're not a Rothschild yet? Well, for sure that.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But even in, like, the world that I live, I'm not so out of touch, right? I'm not saying it's the middle class, but it's like, you live in Manhattan, you're never rich. Do you know what I mean? You just have so many people that are so much more wealthy around you. That's right. That is a thing that's sitting next to me. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:30:39 But that is an interesting thing that is about living in the city, is that I think you feel— He has to share his money with us. Fucking loser. No, no, no, no, no. I think you feel comfortable talking about money because you are so much poorer than the guy who lives across the street, down the block. Like, you're constantly—
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yes. Put in front of people that— And I think that's good because you shouldn't ever be at the top of anything. Yeah, it's humbling, but it's also like you might speak about something, not you, we might speak about something that looks as if it's bragging, but it's so far beneath where you know it can go that it doesn't feel in any way like it brags. Yeah, there's also like there's generational money in places like New York where you're like, oh, I could never have it.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They can't spend it. They can't spend it. They can't earn it in one lifetime. It's just there forever. They're just the custodian of the money. A lot of those people, their lives kind of lack something that ours have. There are no stakes in their life. They kind of float around.
Starting point is 00:31:39 They're never intense. This is the thing that I wanted to ask you about. There's these legacy families that have existed throughout history. Rothschild is one of them. Obviously, Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, right? Yeah. Some of these families maintain the wealth for fucking generations, maybe hundreds of years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Some of them within a few generations fall apart. Yeah. And why is that? Kids. But they all have kids. I know, but some are better than others. So some have a culture that like is very strict. The Vanderbilts, you know, but some are better than others. So some have a culture that is very strict. The Vanderbilts, the last one is Anderson Cooper.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So the Vanderbilts made their money in? Railroads? Railroads. He was a shipping magnet first, and then he got into railroads. They called him the Commodore. He was a big ship going from Brooklyn to New York, back and forth. Is Vanderbilt the one that has the home in Rhode Island? The Biltmore in North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Yeah, they have all these amazing things, but you gotta have lots of kids and the kids have to continue the business in some respect. A lot of families squander money and a lot of kids just, you know, they suck, right? They're not. So that's what I'm trying to understand is like, how do you maintain? Like who is like with the royal family, for example, there's probably a team, a deep state, if you will, that is built to maintain the family despite how retarded the family is.
Starting point is 00:33:01 So it's interesting because you go down to Palm Beach, right? You drive around like Worth avenue and palm beach and before you get down there you see all these family offices you'll see like this trust and that trust and the chilton trust and this trust and those are family offices you have one office dedicated to managing the wealth of one family so that is something that so even if the kids are fuck-ups yeah the trust is built in a way that's correct to be fuck-up proof that's right so they go have kids but some of these families the kids are fuck-ups. The trust is built in a way to be fuck-up proof. That's right. So they go have kids. But some of these families,
Starting point is 00:33:28 the kids aren't fuck-ups and they continue to do good shit. And I'm like, how do you instill the productive values in the kids? It's hard. Yeah, so they just don't squander everything. And who does it the best? Do you just need one good kid
Starting point is 00:33:39 every couple of generations? That's a good point too. Does every kid have to have the culture? Because one, the other important thing is the industries change, right? So much of the largest consolidation of wealth in human history is in Northern California right now. It's a $9 trillion market cap,
Starting point is 00:33:53 and it's because every big tech company that we know about is sitting somewhere between San Francisco and Palo Alto. That's where a huge amount of money is being generated right now, right? So if you're in an industry that is, you know, can be, you know, modernized and can evolve and can still make money, you're great. If you're in a, you know, there are like heiresses and people that, you know, they, their family owned a stationary company, right?
Starting point is 00:34:24 They owned a paper company, right? And all of a sudden we all, you know, their family owned a stationary company, right? They owned a paper company, right? And all of a sudden, we all, you know. That's all the West Virginia, like there's these mansions and shit in West Virginia because of the coal industry. Right. Yeah. So it really depends on like where you made your money.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Did you diversify? Did you get into human trafficking, narco trafficking, drug trafficking, political assassinations, flipping elections, working with the CIA, working with the Mossad, working with MI6. You know, did you get into that stuff? Did you blackmail people? Did you kill them? Did you blow up their cars? Did you
Starting point is 00:34:52 visit South American capitals, get into the drug trade, get into the drug game, make friends? You know what I mean? Did you do that or did you just sit around at Yale and jerk off? What did you do? What did you do with it? Did you make it worth your while? That was magnificent.
Starting point is 00:35:07 That was a wonderful. You got to work. Yeah. So what happens? They make all the money and then they go, okay, there's a limit to what I can do with all this fucking money because these politicians. That's right. I might as well be a politician or maybe make my kid a politician. Well, I always tell the story of like there's this fun representative and I like her because she's a little chubby and she beats up her husband. And Katie Porter, she's in Orange
Starting point is 00:35:28 County, California. Katie Porter is a Democrat Congresswoman from Orange County who physically abuses her husband. And she's the one with the whiteboard. If you've ever seen this, she brings like Jamie Dimon from Chase Manhattan. He'll come in and she goes, can I ask you a question, Mr. Dimon? And she breaks down his salary and how much he earns. And then she breaks down the salary of like a teller. The same way she breaks down her husband. Here she goes. This is what she's famous about, right?
Starting point is 00:35:54 Wow. She throws a couple of cookies down the hatch. And then she goes in a cup. As I've done. As I've done. A couple of cookies. So this is a character I do, by the way. This isn't me.
Starting point is 00:36:06 This is a character. She goes in and she goes, hey, you're fucking everyone over. And she does it on a whiteboard. She goes, here's how you're screwing everyone over. And they all take it. They all take it. It's a show. It's fun.
Starting point is 00:36:18 It goes on Twitter. It goes on YouTube. It means nothing. It does nothing. They get in their chat. Jamie Dimon looks at somebody and goes, can we kill her? Can we do something? Can we experiment with an exploding cookie or something?
Starting point is 00:36:31 How do we get her? It's a show. They know that this is never going to impact them because at the end of the day, this is more of a show. They come in for a public scolding. This is like give the people their pound of flesh and then we get to continue to hoard wealth in the village and everything. Take it, everybody goes, oh, he got fucking demolished.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, dude. You talk about, you know how you'll talk about like the White House roast or whatever where the president is like, yo, you have to come eat these jokes. For them, it's like you have to come eat this shit and we all feel a little bit better, and then you can go on and continue to plunder.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Because we don't really want change. Yeah. We just want to see them be publicly involved. We just want a mom. She's a mom. It's mom energy. Yeah, yeah. She's up there being like, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Yeah, you scolded that rich guy. You lied to me. You had the party. I said you shouldn't have a party. You said it was going to be four people, but you know what it was? It wasn't four people. And then you stole $ gonna be four people, but you know what it was? It wasn't four people.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah. And then you stole $3 billion. And then, yeah, we feel like he's not getting away with it, and then he'll continue to get away with it. And then, right, and then you go, Mom, I'm really sorry. It's hard. It's hard to be a kid. It's hard. Other people from other schools are coming.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I just want them to like me, and it's very hard. I don't understand. You don't get it. Your dad's never around. And she's like, well, none of that's an excuse. You go, I know, mom, but I'm doing the best I can. And she's like, fine. And then she's like, all right, here's a couple hundred bucks.
Starting point is 00:37:52 You know, go on the ski trip. Yeah. That's all it is. It's a fun. So Zuckerberg got to show up for that shit. He's got to show up and get spanked. Everybody got to get spanked. He's got to get spanked.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And then he goes back to the cryo chamber or the jujitsu mountain he's on. So they show up, and they send Big Mama out. Big Mama comes in. Big Mama comes in, and she gives everybody a spank and goes right to the whiteboard. She goes right to the whiteboard. And by the way, this is what Russia hasn't figured out. Putin should just sit down. Get a little spanking.
Starting point is 00:38:24 She draws Navalny on the whiteboard. She goes, what did you do? And he just sheepishly sits there. That's true. And they, Russia is an old society. They have not figured out stagecraft in the way that America has. We have these really fun,
Starting point is 00:38:40 brilliant, Hollywood-style ways to make people feel like things are changing. Russia doesn't do any of that. They just blow up planes and kill people. It's old school. They just don't understand. There's a bunch of guys in a room.
Starting point is 00:38:54 They go, what are we going to do? And we're like, we got an Orange County mom. She spanks everybody, and then we keep the party going. In Russia, they don't have that. Russia, they can't bring in some woman from Minsk who's like, oh, there's... They go, let's blow the plane up. Blow the plane. Get the poison. We have all this poison, just poison. Does she know she's an actor in the theater? No, she thinks she's doing a great job. You don't think she knows? No, she thinks she's doing a great job. No, this is the beauty of all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody thinks they're a hero. Everyone thinks they're a hero.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Jamie's a hero for getting spanked. Yeah, yeah. She's a hero for doing things amazing. Everybody's a hero. She comes in. She gets up. She has her egg white omelet. She's only lying to herself.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. She gets in a minivan. She gets in a minivan. Goes over to Washington, D.C. She gets in there.ivan, she gets in the minivan, goes over to Washington, D.C., she gets in there, you know what I mean, you know, has a keto, one of those, you know, those keto peanut butter cups, and goes, yeah, well, it's actually, my body's running on.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So she comes in, she sits down, and then this is like, it's go time, the cameras are on her, and she's ready, and it's a beautiful ding-a-wha and it means nothing nothing ever happens and like literally they'll pass
Starting point is 00:40:11 the law where they're like you're evicting someone in 60 days you're giving them 65 you're giving them five extra days before the sheriffs
Starting point is 00:40:21 go in there that's like the most it ever happens slow clap it's like if Bernie Sanders, everyone's like, yeah. If Bernie Sanders would have been elected, he would have fought for four years. He would have gone up there, all the speeches. At the end, he would have gotten like free community college for a year.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, yeah. And it would have been like a big victory. Everybody would have been like, wow, this is amazing. And he'd go, you have the right to go to community college. Now that regular college means nothing. Yeah. You have the right to go to community college for one year for free. Yeah. And you know, that's like, it's a brilliant, the way it's all set up. It's coming. You got to watch it and you got to go. This is fun. Yes. It's theater. And we need the theater. We need the theater. Russia doesn't have it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 A lot of countries don't have it. What is it? The exhaust or whatever? You gotta let the... Yeah, you gotta burn off the fumes. You gotta burn off the fumes. And we need that. We're angry. People get mad.
Starting point is 00:41:14 They get angry. They go, these banks, we know they're screwing us over. They're stealing my money. They're raising my mortgage. I can't believe this. And then they're like, but let's see what Big Mama says.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And Big Mama just lays it out. She just lays it out. She's been real peep on Israel, though. She's not. Okay, we've got to put a pause to this conversation about global domination, power, and greed. Yes. Okay, because the good people at home need some takes, to be honest. They need some picks.
Starting point is 00:41:40 I think you've been doing really well. You've been smoking them. Yeah, they need greed as well. We should all capitalize on some greed. Let's all make some money. We're going to continue the greed conversation. What do we got going on? I got safe picks on PrizePix. I'm playing it safe because PrizePix has the green goblin,
Starting point is 00:41:54 which is like a very easy thing to hit. Multiplier, not quite as high, but it's very safe. It's like a mutual fund. Okay, talk to me. Alright, so I got Kyrie Irving more than 19.5 points. That seems like a fucking lock. Yeah. I got Steph Curry more than three and a half assists. That's I that's a sing thousand percent lock. Not even a question. And then they're offering a discount right now. Donovan Mitchell more than 21 and a half points. Normally it's like twenty seven, twenty six. They went down. That's not even there's not even like a multiplier on that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 That's just something they're giving you. You know what I mean? So those are your prize picks. Promo coach Schultz, the match match your initial deposit up to $100. So you put in $100 to get $100 for free. Yeah, that's far. That seems like a fucking no-brainer. Yeah, that's far. What else happens in sports right now? You know what I'm excited about? There's a couple weeks that suck after the NFL season ends, but then once the atrociousness that is
Starting point is 00:42:37 NBA All-Star weekend is over, now it's real basketball. Yeah, now you're getting up for the playoffs and the guys are actually playing and we're looking at what seeds they're going to be in. This is going to be good. And if you're at home with baby Shywell next season, y'all are looking promising. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. It is kind of crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:55 I can't even believe it. I don't want to even attach myself to it. What sucks is as you get busier, you get less time for sports, but the good thing about being with her right now, you have all the time for sports. Oh, yeah. And the Knicks are actually good. Such a great excuse also when you take like your newborn to a game because you look like the best dad, but you're really just selfishly going to a game and blowing your kid's eartrums out.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you put the headphones on. Exactly. Look how adorable he is. Yeah. Making her a Knicks fan. No, no. I would be doing that for me.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I just want to let you know. Yes. That will be for me. Yes. When that happens. Okay. You should do it. Yeah, right. I should. You deserve it, dude I just want to let you know. Yes. That will be for me when that happens. Okay? You should do it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:43:26 I should. You deserve it, dude. You worked hard. Son, we did. You know what I mean? We did. I mean, I did all the work, really, when you think about it. I really did everything to make that.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Yeah, you know what I mean? Shout out to wives, yo. Yeah. Shout out to wives. Anyway, what else we got? Anything else? Man, that's it. Football season, dry, so you got to find the new thing.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Right now, it's NBA. That's the move. All right, we're locked in to NBA., that's it. Football season, dry, so you've got to find the new thing. Right now it's NBA. That's the move. All right, we're locked in to NBA. Let's do it. Let's get rid of them floors. Get rid of them goofy-ass floors. That's all done, too. All-star game is gone.
Starting point is 00:43:55 The play-in season tournament is gone. Now it's real high-stakes basketball. Let's go. Back to basketball. Let's have some fun. Absolutely. You know who I would actually love to talk to? Did you see when J.J. Reddick called out Doc Rivers?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Oh, yeah. So Doc is a guy that I don't know. Something about him always just felt weird to me. And then he goes to coach the Bucs. Their head coach gets fired midseason. He gets $40 million a year, and then he keeps being like, yeah, you know, we're going to suck for a while. The guys aren't playing hard.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And it's like, buddy, you're making $40 million a year. And then J.J. Reddick is like, there's never any accountability with this guy. He guys aren't playing hard. And it's like, buddy, you're making $40 million a year. And then J.J. Redick is like, there's never any accountability with this guy. He's always blaming someone else. And J.J. Redick played for him. Ex-coach. So this is like a very personal thing. I would love to. He's the fucking best. Yo, J.J. don't give a fuck. He's the best. J.J. does not give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, I like that. We gotta have J.J. on. Yeah, absolutely. We gotta bring J.J. on the pot. Yeah, that's gonna be, yeah, that'll be fun. He'd be a good person to get some perspective on the league. Also, I want to learn about, like, the Duke days. Yeah, and it's cool to see the transformation from, like, this kid. Because he was hated. Hated.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah. And now he's just, like, this very calm, cool dad that's, like, very thoughtful in everything he says. Even if it's a hot take, it's well thought out. He's great. Maybe the best in basketball right now with no Van Gundy. Yeah, we might have to have JJ on. Yeah. We got to talk about how pale he was at Duke. Like, it was almost like he was leaning in to be white. Yeah, I feel like Duke wanted him to be that. Yeah. Don't go out in the sun. Yeah. We got much to move. All right, let's get back to the show,
Starting point is 00:45:21 man, with Tim Dell. Hey, who is peep on Israel and who is not? The squad, those people are very vocal. I feel like the squad barely says anything anymore. Well, one does, the Rashida Tlaib, because she's Palestinian. So she got to. She has to. She's got to pop off. Yeah. She's the Macklemore of our, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Because he's also popping off. How about the guy that lit himself on fire? Oh, yeah. I just heard about this. Lit himself on fire, said, free Palestine. The guy outside of the Israeli embassy lit himself on fire to protest the war,
Starting point is 00:45:56 and which my whole point is, they don't care about that. That's what they're doing. Are you sure he lit himself on fire? Yeah, he lit himself on fire, and Israel's like, you saved this time, and thank you. They were like, this is a real cost-effective way.
Starting point is 00:46:09 This is crazy. This is a protest. He lit himself on fire. This is a U.S. Air Force soldier, right? It's a self-immolation, and what he was doing, this is an old-school way of protest, where you light yourself on fire to protest something that you do not like.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And this person. This is Eastern philosophy. This is very, I don't know whose philosophy this is. Raging against the machine. It is, it is Eastern. Isn't it? A Tibetan guy did this. Didn't the monks do it or something?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yes, exactly. It was a guy who did it to protest some type of, you're right, it was an Asian person. Did they put him out or did he die? No, he died. They put him out, but he succumbed to his injuries in the hospital. Let's just be very honest here.
Starting point is 00:46:55 In terms of pure stagecraft, I like this. Talk to us. I like it because... I like it because... Because. I like it because. I like it because, first of all, it's new. I like the focus on one person. All these protests, there's so many people in the streets.
Starting point is 00:47:18 It gets lost, right? Yeah, yeah. This is really going back to the old school. One person. Tim's just watching a play. One can of gas. One person in front of the thing. And it's just your eyes are trained right on him.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah. The message doesn't get muddled. It's free Palestine. Yeah. Because in the big protests, you know what happens. What happens? People show up with the oak tank and they're talking about nine other things. That's true.
Starting point is 00:47:40 That's right. It's distracting. He's yelling only two words as he burns himself to death. Tragedy, yes, not good. I didn't do it. I didn't put anyone in a tunnel. I didn't do anything. The point is, I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:47:52 There's people mad at me right now. Look at yourselves. I did nothing. I'm just, as a protest, I go, I'm more into this than I am into the march. The march is, you're over the marches. Yeah. Yeah. I'm over it. But this is new. this is new this is real sacrifice it's real sacrifice just get your 10,000 kids love it it's trending
Starting point is 00:48:13 it's on tiktok it's killing on x it's just it's engagement it's followers it's likes it's clicks this should be a new tiktok channel this is big Go cry about it. Go cry about it, as the VIP-less bitches would say. But no, this is, I mean, as a marketing thing, this has done very well for him. Very well. No, he's not here to see it. It's unfortunate. But this is a great marketing move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:36 This is a marketing move. You want to talk about a promo? Burt Kreischer, eat your heart out. That is a promo. That is a promo. This guy is wild. And Bert does the best comedy promos
Starting point is 00:48:48 I think in the game, but this guy has elevated it to another level. Yeah, that is. Imagine if he was selling tickets. Oh, they're gone. Imagine if he's
Starting point is 00:48:54 announcing a tour. Yes. That's the real game. Put it out after a minute or two. Yeah. Put it out and put the dates on it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah. Roll the dates. I like it. I like it. You don't want to. I like it. I like it. You don't want to tell, you're wasting virality for nothing. They're not going to stop the war. They don't care that you burned your kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:11 They don't care. You can't think they're going to care. How do you get them to stop the war? You don't. There's no way? Well, I don't. You couldn't figure it out? I think they have to have some, America hasn't got the power to make Israel stop the war.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Whoa. Hot take. We don't have the power. Hot take. No, I mean... What does that mean? Are you trying to say... No, they have a military.
Starting point is 00:49:35 They have money. But if the whole UN votes for a ceasefire and the US raises their hand as well, then what, Israel says, fuck y'all? Well, yes, but also we're not doing that. We're not doing that. The best you're going to get is for Biden to say
Starting point is 00:49:51 this deal, this hostage release deal should happen before you attack the Rafah where all the civilians are. I think the damage has been done. There will never be a two-state solution now. It is a thing that has made the region less safe.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And I'm not even putting this all on Israel, obviously, but this is just, you know, I think 80% of Gaza is now uninhabitable. Yeah. You know, I don't know how it goes back to anything that we understand. I think it moves forward in a way that has to be, Arab countries like Saudi Arabia and the United States, they have to rebuild it.
Starting point is 00:50:31 They have to kick in a lot of money. But this is not going to get somebody to stop the war. And I have a ton of sympathy for innocent people in Gaza dying that had nothing to do with this, that have been also crushed under Hamas. The loss of life is absolutely staggering. I think Israel had a 9-11 moment where they went a little overboard.
Starting point is 00:50:50 I think we went a little overboard for sure. Yeah. After 9-11, I think we did things that were unwise and ultimately made us less safe. What was the right amount of people we should have killed after 9-11? Yeah, a little overboard is a very funny term. Because I hear people saying that.
Starting point is 00:51:02 They're like, it's too many babies killed. And it's like, well, what's the right amount? There's no way to say it. Language doesn't work when you're talking about thousands of people dying. So if I say a little overboard, it sounds like I'm being callous about it. But the other problem is if I say, right, if I say it was a genocide, then that has this political connotation that they're targeting.
Starting point is 00:51:27 So then it's like, then you can't have a discussion about how to end anything. Because people are going to lock you down. Because people just go nuts about words where it's like, no, the goal, just like Trump was right when they said,
Starting point is 00:51:36 what's the goal in the Ukraine war? He's like, no more dying. No more dying. No more war. How do we get to no more dying? And then she's like, what do you mean? And he's like, well, I don't want anyone to die anymore.
Starting point is 00:51:44 We should stop the war. And she's like, but do you want, And he's like, well, I don't want anyone to die anymore. We should stop the war. And she's like, but do you want? And it's like, no, no, no. My goal, everyone's goal, because I'm an Irish Catholic from Long Island who grew up with none of, I didn't, this was not a meaningful thing for my family. It's not like my mother came home and was like, Israel, like we just weren't, you know, I'm not as super educated about the issue either. I don't pretend to be. Like we just weren't, you know, I'm not as super educated about the issue either. I don't pretend to be. I just know that we can't see levels of destruction like this in the modern world.
Starting point is 00:52:12 When you're looking at your phone and you're seeing children displaced and families displaced and no hospitals and those of that, it's not going to work. And I think ultimately it makes Israel less safe and it diminishes their credibility internationally, a reaction like this. Yeah. Yeah. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't have responded. They needed to respond. They absolutely had to respond. It was an attack on Israel from Hamas. It was an act of war. You also respond with an act, you respond with an act of war. Yeah. Completely understandable. Violence begets violence. Violence begets violence. At some point in any conflict, you have to figure out how to end the conflict.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Do you think that the countries in the Middle East are in some ways complicit with what's happening? Like they almost kind of want terrorism wiped out so they can get some Western dollars in there. It feels like everybody's ready to let capitalism run wild. Well, Iran has always been... Outside of Iran. Yeah, they've always been kind of an agitator in that region.
Starting point is 00:53:18 They don't really get along with Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia and Israel actually had, like, kind of a... Yeah, kind of boys. UAE, Israel's good. Egypt, Israel's good. Jordan, Israel's good. But I of a... Yeah, a lot of boys. UAE, Israel's good. Egypt, Israel's good. Jordan, Israel's good. But I think this has strained a lot of those relationships too
Starting point is 00:53:29 because the citizens in those countries are like, this is... The citizens, I think, are furious, but I wonder if the governments are like, hey, listen, we need no terrorism over here.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We can't have random bombs. Yes. I don't want any of this political unrest. If you got to go in there and wipe it clean... I was the one who very bravely...
Starting point is 00:53:43 What did you do? You want to hear this? Yeah, you lit a guy on fire outside of an Israeli embassy. When they were trying to kick the heads of Hamas out of the Four Seasons in Dole, Qatar
Starting point is 00:53:51 I said no. Because I believe in brand loyalty as a concept. Yeah. They had lived in the Four Seasons for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:53:59 First of all there's not a lot of great chains in hotels in the world. There are not. There are not. They've stayed in a lot. And I'm saying I disagree with what Hamas did.
Starting point is 00:54:09 But? But making them stay at a lesser hotel is not going to make them less angry. It's going to make them more. It's going to piss them off. Butter them up. I said leave them in the Four Seasons. In fact, make it nicer. Bring them to an Amman.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Bring them to an Amman. The war's over. Let's get an Amman. The war's over. Let's get it really bad. The war's over. But if they're in a Marriott? Yeah. Spa day. No, we don't want to be married.
Starting point is 00:54:30 It's going to be carnage in a Marriott. But it is funny because these are the things, in the modern world, why all this stuff is crazy. It's insane is because that's a news story. Should the leaders of Hamas get kicked out of the Four Seasons? Yeah. That's insane. It's an a news story. Should the leaders of Hamas get kicked out of the Four Seasons? Yeah. That's insane. It's an insane news story.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Why is there not more pressure on the Four Seasons for that? The breakfast is amazing. No. Because they sell their sheets and pillows. Yeah. Well, here's the problem. For example, the Beverly Hills Hotel is owned by people who throw gay people off the roof, right? Is it?
Starting point is 00:55:08 I believe so. Who's it owned by? Fulton Brunei, Dorchester Group. And they throw gay people off the roofs. They have. Not at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Not at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Where they're from.
Starting point is 00:55:20 We'll just break a leg. I've tried. So where they're from, it's not good. It's not good. The progressive values aren't good. Yeah. But if I have to have lunch at the Waldorf, I will throw myself off the roof. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:55:33 You understand what I mean? Yeah. If I have to have the chicken salad at the Waldorf, I will throw myself off the roof. Yeah. But owned by big Jews who will allow you to do that. I know. I know. They share the values.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But it's not as good. The eggs are not as good. Yeah. So we all have to decide which horrors we want to participate in and for what reason. Yeah. That's part of modern life. Sorry. Sorry. I know there's a lot of NYU students that are unhappy. Don't cry about it.
Starting point is 00:56:03 What do Americans still own? I mean, very little, right? A lot of our cultural properties are kind of diminishing. We still kill music. You do a lot of great stuff in your show about music that we still, we're still, the world is our music, right? That's always something that we still have. War. We're good at war.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Oh, baby. Yeah. Tech. We're doing good. Yeah. You know, our financial sector is pretty big. We've got some stuff. I'm talking about in terms of properties.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Like, it seems like so many of these traditional American properties and British properties, too, are owned by countries. We've got a lot of people coming in. A lot of people. London is a clearance sale for the Middle East. Qatar is not London. The United State, New York City is the same. You know, yeah. I mean, because a lot of these people want to diversify.
Starting point is 00:56:55 That's why it's all funny. It's like, you know, Navalny does all these videos where he's like, look at all the corruption in Russia, all these oligarchs, they own all these houses. And we're like, yeah, go Navalny, go. You know where else they own property? Here. Here in our cities. And you know what we say when people say, well, we should stop S-Corps from buying real estate.
Starting point is 00:57:13 We should limit the amount of foreign ownership. We all say no, no. So it's just very funny. We're like, he's exposing the corruption, but we're really happy to take the dollars of oligarchs and people here. We took them twice. All the oligarchs' assets got seized once the war started.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah, which I was against. It's against. It's not right. It's not right. It's not easy to get a yacht. My real estate. It's not easy to run a fertilizer company for 30 years, okay, that you won in some struggle where you had to kill nine people outside of a cafe in Prague, okay?
Starting point is 00:57:48 And you had to hide in a car, and you don't tell anyone about that. And now, you know, you've got 30 years, and, you know, it's like you have this yacht, and you've named it after the guy you watched die. Wait, wait. Who is this? No, I'm just making it up. Oh, I thought you were talking about the Obama- I'm just making it up.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But, no, at the end of the day, it's like, and now you have a yacht, and then Putin invades Ukraine, and now you've got to give up your yacht? Bro, that's fucked. You kill people for that yacht. Most yachts people die for. Anyway, they seized all these assets that the oligarchs owned in New York and I have a buddy in real estate and he was, him and his buddies were already looking at the ownership of Russian assets in New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And so that they could undercut them by 50%. Yeah. Trying to buy. Of course. So they sell it to the oligarch. Yeah. Buy it back at half off again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And there's all these great stories about how they got around a lot of the sanctions. The sanctions really didn't impact the Russian economy the way we thought it would. There's a great story that actually came out about Nikolai Petrushev, who was the head of Putin's security services. He used to be the head of the FSB, their intelligence agency. He's like Putin's main guy, maybe the successor to Putin. His son, his best friend, is like this guy that works in a Norway energy company.
Starting point is 00:59:09 And even though Norway, you know, all these countries sanctioned Russia, they're just doing backdoor deals. Oh, I saw the oil tankers going through the Bosphorus in Turkey, and they just have no labels on them at all. They're just these random... There's ways around it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:24 There's ways around it. There's ways around it. It's a long game. We need enemies. It's a long game. Especially when your business is bombs. That's why Russia was never going to put them into NATO. We never got them into our thing because we need an enemy. Why didn't we bring them in after World War II?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Because we need an enemy. But we needed an enemy immediately or they also wanted an enemy. Well, I think it's good for everyone to have an enemy because it's very good for Russia to talk about the great, you know, the Satan of America
Starting point is 00:59:52 and it's great for America Because that galvanizes the people. Yes. You need a common enemy that everybody can come upon. Otherwise people start listening to Big Mama
Starting point is 00:59:58 in Orange County. Oh no. They start listening to Big Mama. Half the people that are listening to Big Mama, you have to go, Putin, Satan, stop listening to Big Mama. Oh fuck, so that's the Big Mama, you have to go, Putin, Satan, stop listening to Big Mama.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Oh, fuck. So that's the issue when you don't have an enemy that everybody's afraid of. You just fight each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Putin gets out and goes, America's going to come in here. They want unisex bathrooms. They want your family to be forced into gay porn production. And all this stuff. So one enemy is just way more effective
Starting point is 01:00:27 when it comes to running a country. It's way easier to be two or three. Yeah, you need a Batman villain. You need an enemy. You need somebody to get you. Because otherwise people start going, hey, what's going on here? Yeah. Stop asking questions. Yeah, stop asking questions. So now they got to make us fight with each other because there's no one we're really afraid of.
Starting point is 01:00:44 If there's no Joker, you start looking at a Batman like, dude, you're a fucking psychopath. Yeah, dude, why are you in this cave? Because we're not afraid. Like, we're not afraid of Russia, really. Americans, maybe a little bit China. We, like, fake care about the migrant crisis. Like, there's nothing that really is concerning us. Yeah, I mean, so that's why they're trying to get us to be really afraid of Russia.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's not really working. Nah, it's not working. They're trying. And then China, we know it's there. We know it's looming. Yeah. But it's not imminent. It also doesn't feel like they want the smoke that bad.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Like, they want to beat us maybe economically, but they're not like, I want to blow you up. China is much more, they can play the long game in terms of a conflict with America. They don't want one tomorrow. They're reliant. They're just getting stronger. They need us to buy shit. The military is just getting better. So last time you were on the pod, you talked kind of in a way that made it feel like America's, you might have even said it, an empire on the decline.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Sure. Do you still feel that way? If so, is it China? Who's next? What's the biggest threat? I think we're in a stage of decline, but we're in a stage of decline the way a housewife is. She's in Beverly Hills. The tits
Starting point is 01:01:49 are still out. They're still out. You know what I mean? She's not getting the attention she got. The tits are still out. She's still in a Porsche. She's on husband three. He's no oligarch, but he's got a good medical supplies company. They got a house and a flat. She's got husband three. He's no oligarch, but you know, he's got a good medical supplies company.
Starting point is 01:02:05 They got a house and a flat, you know? She's got one kid in rehab and another one who's an artist in Soho. We're Sharon Stones. We're Sharon Stone. We're not, it ain't crisis mode. No, it's a beautiful, elegant woman. The tits are out, but it ain't.
Starting point is 01:02:19 You're not 25. It's not, we don't, it doesn't go backwards. So she knows that. So you think glory days are gone. How much longer do we have? And then who takes? Glory days are all subjective. One guy's glory days are another people's hell.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Some people say the 50s and 60s were the glory days. Well, they weren't for minorities, gays or women, right? Yeah. Some people said the 90s were the glory days. Some people will say that the early 2000s were the glory days. Some people will say that right now is the glory days because they just made say that the early 2000s were the glory days. Some people will say that right now is the glory days because they just made
Starting point is 01:02:47 a hell of a lot of money in Bitcoin and live in Miami. Yeah. You know, who knows? I just think that like we're in our bad, like we're a little past
Starting point is 01:02:58 bad bitch and now we're like in our front row of a Porsche heading down PCH kind of IDAF phase. I don't give a fuck phase. Yeah. And then after that, it's the sloppy pills phase.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Ooh. So we got to make sure that we don't get to the sloppy pills. We want to stay out. This is a nice phase. Driving down the PCH in a Porsche is incredible. This is a great phase because it's like, I've done it phase. Yes, people talk shit about me. Yes, I've had three husbands.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yes, my kids hate me. But I did it. At a certain point in life, you start going, I did it. No matter what you've done, which is actually hilarious. No matter what you've done, I've known some of the biggest losers in the world. But they did it. Still, when they get to 40, they start talking about shit. They'll talk about taking a bus. I took a bus. But they didn't. Still, when they get to 40, they start talking about shit like they'll talk about taking a bus.
Starting point is 01:03:45 They'll go, I took a bus. Like, they don't care. You have to look back and go, it was something. So this bitch, we did it. We did it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 And we're in that phase. The next phase is sloppy pills. Where are the pills? Is there a way to avoid that? We don't want her to show up at the lunch phase because she's a problem. Is there a way
Starting point is 01:04:04 to avoid that phase? Technology, science, medicine. How good can it get? How much better can it get? I know you had that crazy guy in the other day. He's drinking his kid's blood. He seems fun.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Honestly. I do check in on the show all the time and I go, what did Andrew do? Honestly, he was great. Putin will be on this. I'm like, how did Tucker before Andrew got it. Because we wouldn't fly out too far.
Starting point is 01:04:30 That's a good point. It's great speaking to people that truly believe that they're going to change the world. Yes. Or believe in what they're doing. I had dinner with Bob Lazar, with Rogan once. He's the UFO dude. Yes. And I don't know if I believe in UFOs, but I know he believes that he was doing it.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Yes. Like, I don't think he's lying. Sure. And that Brian dude genuinely believes if he doesn't get hit by a bus, he can live forever. The CIA believes it. The FSB believes it. Putin believes it. Putin's not kidding.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah. Putin's not kidding. Yeah. Putin is not kidding Putin genuinely believes that Russia the West is going to try to take Russia and westernize it he believes that
Starting point is 01:05:10 I think he's right and Applebaum and the Atlantic all these people writing articles we need to westernize Russia it's a failed state, it's a failed society it's westernized, I went to Moscow I didn't stand up there all these people want to do is sell weapons
Starting point is 01:05:23 once you just understand the world is selling weapons, everything makes sense. You go, oh, I get it. So let's back up. It's not westernized in terms of trans bathrooms. They could give a flying fuck if you love trans people or not. Are you buying the weapons from Raytheon? That's right. If you're buying the weapons from Raytheon, we're good. That's it. So they
Starting point is 01:05:39 want, that's what they want, and Putin genuinely believes, whether he's right or wrong, or whether people think he's overreacting or not, he believes there is an existential threat through NATO to Russia. And I think he's probably correct.
Starting point is 01:05:56 But isn't there always one from your neighbors? I hate when people bring up that argument. They're like, oh, we've been invaded like this for thousands of years. It's like, yeah, that's what neighbors do. Neighbors invade each other for thousands of years. That's why you want, Russia wants their neighbors to not have the means. To do it. To do it.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Completely get it. Yeah. Tough cookies. I mean. Well, no, but it is tough cookies because they have 200 nuclear weapons. But do they work? They work. How do we know that?
Starting point is 01:06:23 That's what I'm saying. Like, there's a lot of of huffing and puffing. He was like, we have hypersonic speed and we have the greatest in the world. Listen, if we didn't think they worked, we'd be in Ukraine fighting with them. That's a valid point. American boots are not on our soil. That's a valid point. Wait a minute. Let's talk about that. That's
Starting point is 01:06:37 interesting. We will send weapons. We will send weapons. We will not go. And why is that not a violation? If you're supplying the weapons to the people that are killing me, like, I'm at war with you. Because it's a fun game. Okay, so those are the rules of the game. It's the rules of the game. And that's why he smiles at it.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Yes. With the Nord Stream shit. He needs this. Everyone needs it. Oh, because it galvanizes the people. Who's in his third act? His tits are out. He's on the BCH.
Starting point is 01:07:00 He's trying to avoid sloppy pills. He's got his tits out on the BCH. Everybody needs this We all need it I need it Don't end this shit I got two great bits on this On the stage
Starting point is 01:07:18 The Royal Albert Hall Keep it going Please go London people London go show off for Timmy. He's coming to Royal Apple Hall. Thank you. When, when, when, when, when? Early April the 7th, I believe.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Okay, good. It's a Sunday, but what are you doing? You'll go. Please go. It's amazing. It was really one of the most beautiful places. No, I'm excited to do it, and I'm excited to do it. But yeah, I mean, it's like we won won't go there and we won't do it.
Starting point is 01:07:45 We just have to give them the weapons. We can't do it because then that's direct confrontation. But we don't want direct confrontation. If we did Nord Stream, that's direct confrontation. But nobody can prove it. But he brought something up on it. He goes, there's only one country that's capable of doing it.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Yeah, capable with motive. Putin knows we did it, but here's the deal. He cannot allow American troops to kill Russian soldiers in the Ukraine without responding by going to a hot war
Starting point is 01:08:14 with America. We can underhand it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, now I'm getting it. Okay, so basically, he might not even want to go into a hot war,
Starting point is 01:08:22 but his people will lose respect for him. That's correct. And his power will be threatened if he doesn't go to a hot war. but his people will lose respect for him. That's correct. And his power will be threatened if he doesn't go to a hot war. They'll do a coup. So he's only acting. So as long as we behave in a way
Starting point is 01:08:31 where he doesn't have to react, now they must know that we're supplying the weapons. We're literally talking about it in the news. We're going $14 billion going to Ukraine. He knows. He's literally said stop supplying the weapons and the war will end in two weeks. Now at the same time,
Starting point is 01:08:44 you could probably argue we're also supplying food in some way to the Russian army. We're supplying Coca-Cola. The global economy is so intermixed. Yeah, it's, you know, at the end of the day, it's like this is a geopolitical chess game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's things we can do without going into a wider war. Yeah. And there's things we can't do. We can't put troops on the ground. And we won't.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Our citizenry will not tolerate. We can put all the flags up. We can do all the songs and the dances. We will not tolerate American troops in harm's way in the Ukraine. We won't. This is a Russian rocket that can take down satellites.
Starting point is 01:09:25 What's your opinion on that? Do I know how accurate it is? I mean, the Russians have a lot of stuff. Putin rebuilt that country. Do they? Yeah. Name a Russian car.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, but they're not going to bomb us with a car. If you can't make a car, you can't make a bomb. No, you can make a bomb. I don't think you can. Name a Russian car. Name a Russian boat. Name a Russian, you can't make a bomb. No, you can make a bomb. I don't think you can. Name a Russian car. Name a Russian boat.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Name a Russian anything. You sell these things. The reason that they don't make cars is because all the money goes into bombs and things like that. Russia does not have a big economy. Let's not subscribe to it. It's fact. I don't believe it. We don't know it's fact.
Starting point is 01:10:01 You haven't seen it. My mother- I don't believe Obama was a Christian. So that doesn't mean anything. He's not a Christian. She goes, there's prayer rugs in the White House. I go, really? Okay. The reality is Russians decided a long time ago all they have is the teeth.
Starting point is 01:10:15 They have fear. They do not have an economy. They're never going to compete with us economically. They don't have the people we have. They don't have the ingenuity. They don't have any of that. But they have natural resources, so they don't need any of that. Yeah, but they're not so much Brazil as natural resources. They need nukes. They don't have the ingenuity. They don't have any of that. But they have natural resources, so they don't need any of that. Yeah, but they're not
Starting point is 01:10:25 as Brazil as natural resources. They need nukes. They need fear. They need the ability to pulverize. They need to be scary. Yeah. If they're not scary,
Starting point is 01:10:36 then what are they? They've got an economy roughly the size of Brazil. It's not... It's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. They need to be scary, so they have scary stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Otherwise, we would treat them like Iraq. If they didn't have these nukes, he'd be gone already. He'd be gone. We would treat him like Iraq. We'd put him in a hole. We knew he didn't have weapons of mass destruction. That's why we went in there.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, but there's not 150 million people in Iraq. Good point. That's the thing. It's hard to manage a country with 150 million people. We'd set up a puppet government. It would be fine. But if he thought he got it. We don't want to go in there because we know that he has nuclear weapons.
Starting point is 01:11:09 That's why countries want nukes because it's the last line of defense against the West. Here's my thought. If we talk about geopolitical chess, to me, the only reason I'm, I guess, I don't know if I support the war, but I'm okay with hopefully seeing Russia come over to this team because China is the largest looming threat in my brain. And you're absolutely right. You're correct. And the same members of our foreign policy establishment are saying we need to focus a lot less on Russia and a lot more on China.
Starting point is 01:11:34 But if we can get Russia over to our side, if Putin falls, Russia eventually becomes Western. I don't think so. I don't think the next guy is going to be a friend of ours. I think this was kind of a strategic mistake. I think we should have probably said, hey. Let's do a deal. Let's do a deal.
Starting point is 01:11:48 But I also just don't think we're that afraid of China either. I think that's – I don't think so either. I think it's underestimating. Yeah, we might be underestimating. I just think we're not that afraid of China. I think it's like we need China. China needs us.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. Yeah, I don't think we're that afraid. Mutually short destruction with us. If we were that afraid, I think we wouldn't be spending all these resources. I just feel like cooler heads will prevail with China, perhaps. However, they're going to probably maybe take Taiwan. I need to understand something. We can't let them take Taiwan so we can make the chips.
Starting point is 01:12:16 That's a big deal with these chips. And then Nvidia out here holding the whole stock market on its shoulders, definitely not going to let China swoop in and take that. It's going to be tough. We're going to have to figure it out. They want Taiwan. They want a unified. They want the South China Sea.
Starting point is 01:12:30 They want Taiwan. They want their power base in Asia. They want to run Asia. They want to be the boss of Asia. Yeah. We're going to have to find a way to either let them be the boss or feel like they're the boss. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:16:55 It's super fun. Let's get back to the show. I'm trying to understand this George Soros character, okay? I hear his name a lot. Sure. It's this boogeyman thing. Sure. And I'm trying to, okay, I'm trying to parse something here.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Is he the equal and opposite reaction to like the Koch brothers? Yes. I would say that the Koch brothers probably – Can you explain who they are to the audience? Yeah. I mean they're a family of right-wing billionaires that are kind of more libertarian. They really love free markets. They love free trade. They want to make money. They own
Starting point is 01:17:30 like Dixie Cup. They own oil. They have everything, right? But they are big donors. They're big donors to Republican right-wing causes, yes. And I assume... They have done... They've kind of weaponized philanthropy in a very interesting way. They set up all these foundations and then reroute all that money that's going –
Starting point is 01:17:47 Where I had my kid was a – Right. The New York Presbyterian Hospital. They have a Coke Theater as the Met. Love the guy. Right. They're doing a great job. They are a huge force in right-wing politics.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Okay. So now I'm assuming that some of this philanthropy is benevolent. Sure. They have more of an interest in federal policy. He has more of an interest in state policy, crime, DA. I want to get to that in one second. But I assume that all these donations
Starting point is 01:18:11 are not necessarily altruistic. They, in some way, help the Koch brothers' business pursuits. They can make, I don't know, change legislation, make it a little easier to do business, make some more money. So that's what you're dumping money into.
Starting point is 01:18:24 There's a great book about this called Dark Money by Jane Mayer where she wrote about how the Koch brothers realized it was a limit to campaign contributions and then they started infiltrating universities. They started really selecting people to be professors. They went on a granular level to try to advance their policy ideas.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Influence culture. And, okay, but I understand this because as long as these policies are out there and these ideologies are out there, and then maybe they might look at it and be like, yo, we're being heroes. We're actually saving the United States of America. That's right.
Starting point is 01:18:55 We're saving freedom. So I'm not saying that they're nefarious actors here. Sure. But all the things that they support potentially make them more money, right? Oh, yes. Okay, so that's ideally- And their friends.
Starting point is 01:19:06 And their friends, more money. So that's bottom line. So I guess I'm trying to understand if Soros is the equal and opposite reaction, in other words, the quote-unquote benevolent donator from the left-wing side, what is he donating to that helps his businesses? What are his businesses that deploying this type of cash is going to support?
Starting point is 01:19:27 Well, Soros made billions of dollars a long time ago, crashing the English pound. I read that. He's a financier, but his interest is in social policy. So Soros- How does that benefit him financially? Well, there's a lot of ideological reasons that George Soros believes the things he does. Like he is a believer that the carceral state in America is— That means prison?
Starting point is 01:19:54 Prisons are completely unfair and unjust, and he's not completely wrong there. What Soros often does is he will go and get two left-wing DAs and support them both so that they go head to head and that the most left-wing one, they push each other to the extremes and then the most extreme one will win. And his goals are what he feels like is a reformation of the American criminal justice system to be more focused on rehabbing criminals, not putting people in jail that don't belong there, and changing that dynamic. So on paper, that looks like it makes sense. It looks great on paper.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Now, I think that he's been blamed, and maybe rightfully so, I don't know enough, for the kind of destruction of some liberal cities. Well, there are a lot of Soros-backed and funded DAs who are pushing ideas like no bail. They're pushing ideas like not prosecuting. They're incentivizing crime in a way. Yeah, and you know. But how does he make money on this?
Starting point is 01:21:00 That's the only thing that's missing from this equation. I hear this a lot. And if it's pure benevolence, he just wants to change the justice system. That's weird. But there has to be some way where he can profit off of this. Well, I'm sure there is, by the way. I'm sure there is. I think that there's, you know, all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:21:14 And I don't know the Soros portfolio, right? But, like, there's a lot of tech companies right now that are focusing on, like, surveillance and things like that because as things get less safe... There's more crime than you would need. More surveillance, yeah. These guys are all behind the vaccine passports. They are all behind a world in which everybody
Starting point is 01:21:37 is on the grid in a major way. So if you're invested in the grid, you want to do everything you can to make sure more people have to sign up for the grid. I think you want to deliver people into a world and you have to deliver them through a little chaos. You can't force them there, but you can create a system. You can make them want the surveillance. Hey, give us safety.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Hey, my car got broken into five times. Can you put up some cameras somewhere around here? So now you're begging for your own imprisonment. If your goal is big government and your goal is a, you know, omnipresent government force, then I think a little street chaos is probably good ultimately for that. But do you believe that's his goal? Because that's a far cry from I just think the prison system should be reformed. I just think he's wrong. Here's the thing should be reformed. I just think he's wrong. Here's the thing with George Soros.
Starting point is 01:22:28 I just think he's wrong. I don't know how Machiavellian he is. I think he's wrong. I think the way that his goals are good, the way he's getting there is wrong. I think he's wrong. I think people can be wrong. I don't think we have to ascribe negative motives to
Starting point is 01:22:43 everybody. He could do it. I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong. I think that the policies he's pursuing make the people he purports to care about less safe. And those are poor people, people in the inner city, things like that, that are on public transit, are maybe going to be the victims of a crime. I think he's wrong. I don't know him well enough to know what his overarching motives are.
Starting point is 01:23:08 And it's hard, you know, we can say that, and I don't know, he might, I do know that he's incredibly concerned with what he feels, you know, he pushes the ideology of kind of the DIE.I.E., the diversity, equity, inclusion ideology, where he believes that the American society is fundamentally unfair and that it needs to be reformed. And I would have some disagreements with him there, for sure. Right. I think he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:23:40 I think there's a lot of people that are wrong, not necessarily these evil cowards. The Koch brothers, I think, are wrong. They believe in unfettered free trade. They believe in open borders because they don't want to pay anyone a wage. So if they open all the borders and everyone comes in, they go, do it for a dollar. This is why the Koch brothers, they're not, they don't love El Salvadorian people. You know what I mean? They're not like don't love el salvadorian people yeah yeah you know you know what i mean like they're not like we need more cultural diversity they want to pay people the least amount that they can i think they're wrong do i think that they're these machiavellian evil types well sure anyone in
Starting point is 01:24:18 a suit that's a billionaire who lives on park avenue can fit into that and might be yeah but all we can say about a lot of these people is that they're wrong. Bill Gates is, I think, wrong when you're mandating people's personal health choices. I think you're wrong. I don't know why he's buying up farmland. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:37 That's creepy. What is up with all these real estate purchases you see from the billionaire class? I think people want to own resources directly. And I think they feel like you see this a lot in Europe right now, in the Netherlands, where corporate small farmers are protesting all the time because they're putting all these new standards in place that make it harder to be a small farmer, greenhouse gas emission standards, things like that. And it's know, it's just, you know, these big corporate agricultural companies
Starting point is 01:25:08 are the ones that are thriving at the expense of these farmers. So in the real estate industry, when you have BlackRock buying up single-family homes. Yeah, explain that, because I saw that. BlackRock is this massive hedge fund, right? During the pandemic, there was a lot of rent relief, and some mortgage relief and stuff like that, right? And what ended up happening was
Starting point is 01:25:31 it ended up being a transfer of wealth. All these bailouts went to these big corporations, right? And it truly benefited not mom and pop landlords because they still were on the hook for their taxes and utilities and things like that. And, you know, it really benefited corporate landlords who went in and then bought up a lot of single family homes that people, and then they jacked the price of real estate up by going in and just outbidding everybody, buying these homes in cash. And now people cannot, people have been
Starting point is 01:26:02 priced out of homeownership and now they're renting the homes that are owned by BlackRock. Up until recently, they kind of got out of the real estate game because they were taking a little heat. They were getting a lot of bad press. And, you know, things, you know, they're like, now we're buying at the height of the market. Rates suck, whatever. They backed out. But up until recently, they were, I think, the biggest corporate buyer of U.S. residential real estate, and they priced a generation of people out of owning a home. And they just did that because they, I think, eventually all these big corporations want you to rent.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Yeah. They want you to take Ubers and Lyfts. Yeah. They want you to have food delivered. They don't want you to own a business or even think about owning a business. They want you to work at a corporation that they own. That's, I mean, is that terrifying? It's terrifying.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah. It's like, I think, I think that's even the model with the iPhone now, right? Don't you kind of like pay a monthly fee and you can keep on getting a new phone? It was explained to me this way. You're almost like leasing your phone. The really smart guy came on my show. He goes, every entity, this guy, Russ Baker, he writes books and crap. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:08 But he said every government, whether it's a company or a government, every entity that's ever existed seeks power through control. Yeah. It's power through control. If you can control people, you have the power over them. So I think that it's like every government on earth, every Fortune 500 company, I think they want people to be just- If you don't own your home, someone else has control over you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:33 So if you- The less things that you own, the more verticals there are to exhibit control over you. That's correct. And is there a solution to this? Is there any way? Because it seems like this is just inevitable, the way it's being described. I mean, maybe, maybe.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Yeah, maybe, maybe not. I do think it's interesting to look at, you know, whether it's crypto or whether it's, you know, the independence that comes along with a currency that's not Fed-backed, right? Like the idea— I was being facetious. Do you really think it's— No, I'm dead serious. I think that, like, eventually you will—
Starting point is 01:28:15 I think, unfortunately, crypto might just end up being a thing that enriches very rich people anyway. But— God willing. You know, independence, you have to fight for it. You have to keep fighting for it forever throughout history. That's the whole thing. You have to just keep fighting for your independence. There's, it didn't end with the revolutionary war. This is where I'd give my big speech at the end here, like Katie Porter, like big mama. And then I go have a meatball on a stick for $19 and so on or whatever crap they now shove down our throats,
Starting point is 01:28:43 you know, just completely go against everything I said. But you just have to keep fighting. You just have to carve out ways that you individually can depend on less people and create communities. I think communal living is going to be a big deal. I think people are going to have their own cities. I think people are going to have their own value systems where they go, we're creating a space for ourselves that, you know, kind of like on the grid, but off the grid, I think people are going to, you know, all of this stuff. I think cities are going to-
Starting point is 01:29:10 The pods, we were talking about that, about the pod learning. The suicide pods? Yeah, suicide pods. No, they're great, I can get right in and it's over. You think religion comes back? Yeah, but I think the thing with religion is always that a lot of the people that are going to take advantage of it will be charlatans.
Starting point is 01:29:28 This is what has happened forever, right? So like religion, I think there is a resurgence of religion. I think that faith is good. I think people should have – I think religion can be a great force for good. can be a great force for good. Yeah. I think it can be manipulated, and it often is, by sociopaths to, you know, create a lot of violence and chaos.
Starting point is 01:29:52 I would still say net positive, but absolutely. I agree. Yeah, I think it's a net positive. You know, so I don't know what happens. I can't predict it. But you will have to try in the small and big ways you can to can to like not succumb to all of this stuff, especially if you are a lot of the values that I was raised with, which is like, go to college, take out student loans, do what everyone else is doing. I think those are not the right values. The values actually are look at who's succeeding, look at what they're doing, try to figure out how you can be nimble, agile, move different places.
Starting point is 01:30:30 No one's saying you have to live in the most expensive city in the world. Go find a city that's nothing with 200 people making something. Go take over Lexington, Kentucky. You know what I mean? Dead serious. Go take over something. Go build a community of like-minded people somewhere. Would you do that?
Starting point is 01:30:47 No. Because I see you as such a... You already did. It's called the hand. It's called the hand. It's called the hand. No, because I see you as... Bag armor.
Starting point is 01:30:56 You're a gem. In a lot of ways, you're... A loner isn't the right thing because you're always around people, but you do march the be the own drum. Yeah, I do. I've learned I used to hate that. Hate what? Kind of being just kind of an island a little bit.
Starting point is 01:31:13 I feel like you're like that. Yeah, I like that. You're well-liked by all these different groups. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can make fun of all of them. They still bring you in. Yeah. But there is a little isolation in you.
Starting point is 01:31:24 There's a little isolation for sure. I mean, but as I get older, like I'm 39 now, I think that career stuff is great. But I also think that like things outside of your career become much more important around this age. So I think, yeah, I mean, I'm not against that now the way that I was. Like if you asked me five years ago, I'd be like, no way. Would you join a cult? You're not going to join? No, I'd start a cult.
Starting point is 01:31:46 I'd never join anything. Are you moving out of LA? What's the deal? I don't know where I live. No one really knows. I don't even know. I know the government doesn't know. At the end of the day, I'm a resident of Dubai.
Starting point is 01:31:58 At the end of the day, I sit down with my business guy and I go, where have I been? And he goes, here's where you've been and here's where you have to pay taxes. And he counts the days. And he counts the days. They all have the days when I go into their office. I go, where have I been? And he goes, here's where you've been. So will they say you've got to park your ass in Texas?
Starting point is 01:32:17 No, because I gave up on that. I love Texas in the sense that I love the audiences. I love Rogan. I love his club. I love Shane. I love everyone who works there. I give up living there because I just, I didn't vibe with it.
Starting point is 01:32:31 So I think you just got to vibe with it. I didn't vibe with Austin, Texas. So when you said you love Texas, what you meant was this. I love the people. You love all the people that aren't from there that move there. No, I love the people there that,
Starting point is 01:32:44 it's got a great culture, but it's not my culture. Here's the thing. I really believe that cultures are different. I feel like it would be like, for me personally, I'm such a New York guy. And then I lived in LA being a New York guy. For me, it was just, Texas was a bridge too far. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:01 That's all. No, it's like you visit a place and you're like, yo, I love it, but I can never leave it. It's a great culture. I love the music, some of the food, all of that stuff. You know what I mean? Not enough car places.
Starting point is 01:33:11 What can't you get there? What is the thing that you're missing? Seafood, oceans. Yeah, you need a little water. I need a little water. I like water. My mother, I think your mother's DNA is imprinted on you.
Starting point is 01:33:21 And my mother loved Florida. She spent a lot of time in Florida. She surfed. She was into boating. And my mother loved Florida. She spent a lot of time in Florida. She surfed. She was into boating. It was always by beaches. Just being around water to me is kind of important. Are you going to be out east this summer, you think? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:33 For like extended? I think so. I love this. I think so. And the prices are going up right now because a lot of Jewish people don't want to go abroad because of anti-Semitism. So the values are up. and the rentals are up and the prices are up.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Everybody's winning all around. It's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. It is what it is. It's springtime for Hitler. It is what it is. Springtime. Springtime.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Oh, that's hilarious. So people have been trying to rent your spot out there like crazy. Yeah, but I'm not going to do it, but I don't think. You don't want Jews living there? You want to keep it. But listen, here's what I mean to say. And I don't mean to minimize the pain and the suffering and the hurt. But have we seen clouds, silver linings? And the silver lining sometimes of a little shake,
Starting point is 01:34:36 because the earth, the planet is just, you shake it a little bit. Shake it up, shake it up. And you shake it a little bit. And I'm not shaking it. Who's mad at me? You out there mad at me? Did I shake it? It's shaking and it up. Shake it up. And you shake it a little bit, and I'm not shaking it. Who's mad at me? You out there mad at me? Did I shake it? It's shaking, and it shakes, and then sometimes good things happen.
Starting point is 01:34:50 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And who are we to not take advantage of those good things? I just say to myself, hey, what he did with the fire, I say, new, love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. And then my realtor calls and goes, people don't want to travel abroad, and the house
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Starting point is 01:38:26 scamps they were fun people it can be all things it can be all things and they were just really fun and perpetual victims always aggrieved easiest run
Starting point is 01:38:35 of all the generations probably outside of NOM it was pretty smooth sailing but again they're always upset they're always pissed off they're always complaining
Starting point is 01:38:44 no it's so true. The easiest run in history. They fucking cry about it nonstop. They cry about it nonstop. Horrible, the things they had to endure. They bought a home for 40 grand. Yeah, traffic, detractors, can't get anywhere. Blinds at the grocery store.
Starting point is 01:38:59 They are the most. Everybody's got an opioid addiction now. It took me two hours to get to my $20,000 home. They're completely disconnected. Parents served in the war. They were born after. They were born after. They're disconnected.
Starting point is 01:39:10 They keep telling their kids to do the things they did. They're not aware. It's impossible. You know, like my dad said once, I was like, all these jobs are going to be automated. He's like, you kids will have it all. He goes, you're not going to have to do anything for yourselves. I go, yeah, but those are jobs. People are not.
Starting point is 01:39:25 He's like, oh, come on. They don't care. And they're very funny. They're actually really, really funny. You know, my dad said, we were at Christmas, and my step-sister said something annoying about climate change. You know, like something annoying. Wad lives in D.C. or whatever. I was eating a risotto ball and she was talking.
Starting point is 01:39:47 And then my father goes like this. My father goes, he goes, you know when you really start to pay attention to the weather? When you get a boat. And he goes, because we are on our boat. And we are really taking it. And that's their generation of people. Like, that's how. If they are not directly affected, I mean directly affected.
Starting point is 01:40:11 They don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck about anything. Oh, that's great. Yeah, it is the selfishness that they're completely unaware of. They invited their realtor to Christmas. My father looked at me and he goes, she's been fighting brain cancer for 20 years. He goes, she's really something. And then we're like.
Starting point is 01:40:30 So they are ghoulish. They're ghoulish. They're. What's the. Sorry, what's the title? I need to know the title. Death by Boomers. Ah, OK.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And it'll be about just how they. Where do you get like. They used to call us Fat Fox. Like my friend's mother, Barbara. Yeah. And it was the funniest thing in the world. She would smoke a Marlboro Rad. She would roll down the way...
Starting point is 01:40:51 This was her son in mid... She would roll down the... I mean, imagine. By the way, imagine. Is there a better woman than this? How old are you? 14. She would roll down the window of her Saturn.
Starting point is 01:41:02 She was smoking a cigarette. And she'd go, where are you fat fucks going? I mean, I mean the mother, his mother. Big mama. Big mama. So they're like the, you know, we talk about the generational wealth and the shit kids are in it. Are they that for America? They had this.
Starting point is 01:41:23 But they're not even wealthy. They're not wealthy. No, but America was. They have this. But they're not even wealthy. They're not wealthy. America was. They have like a nice share. But America was. They're actually better off than the wealthy people because at some level of rich,
Starting point is 01:41:32 you have to think about other things. Yeah. They had just enough money. All it did was corrupt them and destroy their children. And that's all it needed to do. They never thought about civic virtue or angling for position.
Starting point is 01:41:44 They just wanted a Lexus and a shitty timeshare at a golf resort. That's all it needed to do. They never thought about civic virtue or angling for position. They just wanted a Lexus and a shitty timeshare at a golf resort. That's so true. That's all they cared about. What I'm asking is America was a power, and then this generation comes and then just kind of squanders the power. Like the Vanderbilt head. No, it's not even that. These people are— They live on Long Island.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Yeah, they live on Long Island. They live in the suburbs of any city. They're 30 to 40 minutes out of any city. Yeah. They are constantly talking about the girl at the dry cleaner who screwed their life up because she doesn't speak English and didn't understand what they wanted. They are to be found. Did you see Meredith's Christmas lights? Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:23 They're what we call pool and patio types. They're on a patio by a shitty pool. They're talking about how many sacrifices they made for their children. And when in reality, they've made none. I had one woman tell me once, this woman Lisa I love, she looked at me she goes i married my husband for very practical reasons she's drinking a martini we were smoking steaks and drinking
Starting point is 01:42:50 martini she goes i married my husband for a practical reason she goes we were never in love i was 16 in high school this was like a heavy thing to drop yeah i was like best friends with her son it was like a heavy fucking thing to drop i was like oh i go but you have fun and she looked at me she goes we have fun it was like amazing oh, I go, but you have fun. And she looked at me, she goes, we have fun. It was like amazing. I remember that moment as like, so interesting. She was very into like Eastern philosophy. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:12 And she was a housewife, and a lot of them were, right? She was into like Buddhism, and she goes, you just go around this planet many times until you get it. And then she'd look at her son and go, she'd go, and you're never gonna get it. She goes, she goes, she said once, she goes, I swear She goes, she goes, she said once, she goes, I swear to God, she goes, why the hatred to their
Starting point is 01:43:30 kids? Because they're, they view their kids as an impediment to their wellness, success, fulfillment. They, they did not, they're the first generation that did not want their children to have it better than they did. Yes. They actually wanted their children to be like...
Starting point is 01:43:46 Did the children get in the way? Were they the first? Yeah, they got in the way. Are they the first generation that are like, it's my life and I should be able to do whatever I want with it? Yeah, I think the children got in the way and I think the children also were there to support them emotionally, not the other way around. The children were there
Starting point is 01:44:01 to let them know how... So you have the greatest generation and then you have the ghoulish generation. My friend's mother just, I swear to God, just made up a fake attack in a grocery store. I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:44:13 in a grocery store parking lot so she didn't have to go to his wedding. She made up the fact that she was pushed down in the parking lot of a grocery store. This is a complete lie.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Her son's wedding? Her son's wedding. Unbelievable. And she said, the attack has's wedding? Her son's wedding. Unbelievable. And she said the attack has prevented me from going to your wedding. This was a complete fabrication she invented that she was attacked in a grocery store parking lot.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Okay, real quick. Unbelievable. Unreal. Okay, so every generation that had a major war is sold the story of hey, we are sacrificing for your wives and your children, right? This generation, the boomers don't have a major war. So is there no indoctrination of sacrifice?
Starting point is 01:44:53 So then when they do have kids, they're like, why are you in the way of me enjoying whatever I want to enjoy in this moment? They absolutely are that. It's a great way to put it. They're also the first generation of people where they really try out mass marketing on these people. They are marketed to death. They are advertised.
Starting point is 01:45:12 They have entertained themselves to death, which is a great book by Neil Postman, Entertaining Ourselves to Death. They're the first generation that is, you know, my father used to cry at the Budweiser Clydesdale commercials. He loved the frogs. He loved the frogs. He loved the frogs.
Starting point is 01:45:28 I love the frogs. He loved the frogs. Crying at the Clydesdale commercials. No, he loved it. This is the first generation of people to watch World War II documentaries to feel proud of accomplishments they never had and sacrifices they never made.
Starting point is 01:45:42 And they would watch World War II documentaries and they'd feel very proud of themselves while eating a cake. That's the boomers. They love a crew. That's the boomers. So what happened? What is the generation before them? What I'm trying to understand is where do you get this perspective? Because that's all you know. That's who you were raised by.
Starting point is 01:45:57 That's what you think people are. So their parents were like the greatest generation. But how do you know that boomers are weird? Because that should be the only thing you know. That should be what women's are. I know a lot of people of a lot of different ages. So you knew older people and you saw how different they were from your pen. A thousand percent.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Okay, so give me great generation. Greatest generation. How did they raise these people? I think they were maybe if they were a little cold, a little withholding. Coming back from war. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but I think they gave their kids a lot. I think they gave them a lot of context to what life is.
Starting point is 01:46:32 Yeah. A lot of religion. My, you know, grandparents were incredibly religious. There was also, you know, kind of this idea that their dream was for their children to have a better life than they did. The boomers dream was to have the greatest lives they could. It was not about their children. It didn't continue. They actually felt that their children
Starting point is 01:46:59 Inhibited their dream. Inhibited their dream to some degree and they also felt like if their children couldn't figure it out, they couldn't figure it out. Even the TV shows that come up from it are resentful of the children. There's a lot of comedy that's resentful of children. Which is something that I love. I'm finding out it's kind of changing.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Maybe it's just because I'm older. But anybody around my age who just had kids, they message me and they go, this is the greatest thing. You are so lucky. Enjoy these years. Yes. They love their kids.
Starting point is 01:47:26 No, it's amazing. And it is so different than the comedy you saw. And it's not funny. It's not at all. And it's good. And it's my funny friend. Even funny friends will just go, hey, this is awesome. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Of course, the funnier take, hating your kids, you know, whatever Louis was doing. Yeah. But that comes from a generation of people that were very comfortable going, these kids are annoying. They're gettingie was doing. But that comes from a generation of people that were very comfortable going, these kids are annoying, they're getting in our way. A thousand percent. I also think they were the first generation of people
Starting point is 01:47:52 to get effed up with their kids. They drank with their kids. Some of them smoked pot with their kids. Oh yeah, there was no disconnect. There was no disconnect. The cool mom, cool dad. The cool mom, they were like drunk. They were falling down in front of their children. They would throw the house party at their house when they were doing drugs with our parents friends they were like screaming and yelling and just complete lunatic they were complete
Starting point is 01:48:12 maniacal and why why why was there this why was there no disconnect i just think it was you know it was the relative ease at which things came to them they had to create their own struggles it it really exposes the lie of the Woodstock generation. The Woodstock generation has been, I know you'll love this. We'll do Vatican II in a minute. But the reality is the Woodstock generation, we see them as this progressive, free-loving,
Starting point is 01:48:41 they were just selfish drug addicts. They were just selfish drug addicts. The drug chain. Keep going, my boy. my boy just became money yes consumerism booze and pills they were just selfish drug addicts they didn't care about any of this stuff they just wanted to have sex in the mud and do heroin and that's okay but the boomers proved that because the boomers were those people and they just the drug just became the drug just became money and status and all of that stuff. The belief system that was supposedly underlying all that actually never existed ever. I've always wondered, because I was thinking about this like last week, like these guys that are so conservative now were the Woodstock guys.
Starting point is 01:49:21 How did that happen? What changed? Well, they were never liberal and they're barely conservative. Now they actually chase their own self-interest like a dog chases a steak. For example, they don't, they're all anti-global warming, but all of them want to live on the water. They all want to live on the water. They all want to have a boat. They all, for the most part, think global warming is full of shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Because, you know what I mean? But they all want, in the nature, to be exactly what it is for them. Yeah. Everything is for them. They are against the migrant crisis, but they adore housekeepers, nannies, and a lot of the things that come with it, right?
Starting point is 01:50:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. They think Biden's too old, but they're 75 and they're not retiring. And they're not selling their house. And they won't sell their house and they're retiring to a larger house. But they also will scream and yell about Joe Biden being too old.
Starting point is 01:50:19 But are they going to pass the business down to their son? Nope. Or are they going to put the house on the market? Or are they going to, no. Are we market? Or are they going to? No. Are we different? And if so, how did we get? The millennials suck for a whole host of other reasons, Eric. They're a ribbon.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Are we millennials? Kind of. I think we are. Millennials suck for a different generation because they were raised by these kind of boomer parents that were kind of loony tunes. boomer parents that were kind of looney tunes. The millennials got instilled in their heads that they wanted to be constantly recognized for something because their parents were so hostile towards them. The millennials went to universities and corporate America and said, please pin a ribbon on me. Tell me I'm good.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Look, I voted. Look, I believe in this and that and this cause. And I'm going to- Pats on the back. Pats on the back constantly. Interesting. I'm good. Love me, love me, love me, society. My parents hate me. Will you love me? I believe in this and that and this cause. Pats on the back. Pats on the back constantly. I'm good. Love me, love me, love me, society.
Starting point is 01:51:08 My parents hate me. Will you love me? And they became annoying. They became helicopter parents. They're the ones that are over-parenting their children to compensate. They're the annoying people that are like, what's the new thing? Ukraine, this flag, sub that flag. Now it's that flag.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Now I'm into this. And all of it is because they just want to be, you know. Adulation. Right, cousins and people like that. All they wanted was to get into a good school to hold it over people's heads. You know what I mean? They didn't care about knowledge. They don't care about.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Some of the dumbest people I know are the most well-traveled because they learn nothing by traveling. It's just an Instagram photo. They don't care. It's what I respect about you. You learn stuff and I'll talk to you. You'll be like, you're inquisitive when you go to the Middle East and places like that. When my cousin goes to the Middle East, not just her, but people like that, when they go anywhere,
Starting point is 01:52:00 it is solely to show other people that they have zero care about anything. That's the millennials. It's groupthink. It's give me love. Tell me I'm good. Tell me I'm better. I've done the work.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I put the time in. Look at me. I got the job. I got the office. I'm the girl boss. I'm the whatever. And the Zoomers are kind of a little more fun because they're a little bit more nihilistic. They've seen all the institutions crumble. They've seen all the things. Zoomers are kind of a little more fun because they're a little bit more nihilistic. They've seen all the institutions crumble.
Starting point is 01:52:26 They've seen all the things. Zoomers are after Gen Z. They are Gen Z. This is after millennials. Yeah. And the Zoomers are more self-starters. They're more independent. They've seen operations like this.
Starting point is 01:52:36 They've seen people make great careers going the independent route. Millennials really, for the most part, didn't see that. Millennials looked more for the most part, didn't see that. Millennials looked more towards the institutions. They wanted those institutions to convey the respect on them that their parents didn't. The Zoomers are like, okay, we're out here in the wilderness where... Let's make it happen.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Let's make it happen. We're self-starters. We don't need anyone. We don't need a corporation. And their parents love them, so they don't need that validation. And their parents love them too much. They've kind of like... maybe it's a badass of them or maybe it's dangerous, but they've kind of rejected the woke ideology a little bit. Yes, they have. Because, you know, again, the woke ideology is a very millennial ideology. So you have to reject the generation before you.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Yeah, that ideology is about advancement. It's about the revenge of the mediocre. It's not about helping actual genuine people that have been disenfranchised. It's more about pinning a medal or a ribbon on yourself and saying, I believe the right thing. Give me a job. I want to. I want to be. It's all these people that went to school and they majored in things like gender studies.
Starting point is 01:53:41 And then all the boomer right wingers were like, you'll never get a job. It's like, no, they created the jobs. They created the jobs. They created the institutions. They said, you need a diversity thing. You need a sensitivity reader. You need this. You need a cultural sensitivities are.
Starting point is 01:53:54 And they became all these jobs. And that's what the Zoomers see how fake it all is. They see through it. And the millennials do such a bad job of disguising that it's really just like whether you want to call it a jobs program or the revenge of the mediocre. That's what a lot of that ideology is. It's refreshing, though, that the Zoomers see it so clearly. Yeah. Like you speak to some of these kids and they're painfully aware of how ridiculous it is.
Starting point is 01:54:18 They kind of laugh at it. But it's not like they're not progressive about certain things. There's certain things that make sense. They kind of go, yeah, obviously. It's not like their rejection is fucking throw gays off the buildings. They don't reject that. The bad ones.
Starting point is 01:54:33 But there are a little bit... I don't know how to explain it. Gay marriage is obvious. Exactly. You're like, let them get married, whatever. But we can also call each other gay, and that's not hateful. They've kind of evened out in a nice area. I think that generation would be the one that is going to have the biggest role to play in all of the things we talked about and where America lands.
Starting point is 01:55:05 Yeah, you have the most hope for them. Well, and whether it's hope, it's certainly interesting to watch. It's too, everything you're saying is correct. I think it's too soon yet because I think, you know, we could have looked at like these boomers and went, wow, they're really rejecting like this commercialism and all of this stuff. And then literally they turned on a dime. So I don't know which, it's very interesting to watch you know um you know but i think the indications are good from that generation except there's a little nihilism there and the nihilism is a problem and the nihilism can they can black pill themselves into explain yeah explain nihilism a little bit the idea that because everything is so terrible and all the information is at their fingertips.
Starting point is 01:55:46 They can't believe any of the information. They kind of not believe any of it and they've disconnected emotionally from it. That's why they'll just watch videos of people getting their head chopped off. Also, like a lot of the drugs are disassociative, right? I mean, Euphoria is such an amazing show because it does paint like a pretty accurate perception
Starting point is 01:56:00 of what's going on in a California high school. You have people ODing, people struggling with gender identity, violence. You have people ODing, people struggling with gender identity, violence. You have people's parents, you know, like, you know, struggling with drugs issues. So it's such a great show. That being said, like,
Starting point is 01:56:15 Sam Levinson did a great job of painting an inaccurate picture. But you watch that show and go, wow, what an amazing show. Then you go, I don't want my kid going there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, I don't want my kid going to Euphoria High. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:26 But the nihilism is interesting. I have noticed that with some of them. They're a little black-eyed. They are. Black-eyed nihilist. And I thought it was. My godson, three years old, black-eyed nihilist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:35 Just kind of looks at you. Doesn't care. Unaffected. Unaffected. Doesn't care. They've seen everything. They're just. They've seen everything.
Starting point is 01:56:42 You know what's funny? I thought this was a. I saw a lot of girls that grew up in new york city are like this oh yeah even our generation going to clubs at 14 exactly they've seen it all they've been like had fucking disgusting old men with their like parents friends trying to fuck them right they've seen the world for the worst versions of it if you're protected in a nice lovely little suburb and everybody's polite to one another and you're not being manipulated by old dudes every single day
Starting point is 01:57:06 and some guy's trying to finger you at work et cetera you can have these doughy eyes about the world these girls at 14 going to the fucking club
Starting point is 01:57:12 they know what it's like and they have that little bit of nihilism that's what I see in the zoomers I think we have that it's a little bit of darkness and it's good
Starting point is 01:57:20 but they can't OD on it because then it could get a little you're unaffected you're just unaffected by anything and you need to be affected to do shit you need to be affected then it could get a little. You're unaffected. You're just unaffected by anything, and you need to be affected to do shit. You need to be affected.
Starting point is 01:57:27 You need to care a little bit about something. It's very hard because the world has gotten crazy, and it's always been crazy, but it's now delivered to you. That craziness is delivered to you. There's a gang of kids in Arizona, white kids, running around attacking other kids randomly. They killed one of the kids. It's in Gilbert, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:57:48 It's like an hour outside of Phoenix. I talked about it on my show. There's endless videotapes of these white kids stomping on the heads of kids. Jesus. Stomping on the heads of children. These kids are raising gated communities in the suburbs. So there is something, I think, there's a nihilism
Starting point is 01:58:03 that goes on where these kids become sociopaths by the they're desensitized yeah okay and it's crazy clockwork orange
Starting point is 01:58:12 clockwork orange this kid Preston Lord he died this 16 year old kid was killed at a house party and you know now they're trying to make arrests
Starting point is 01:58:19 it's kind of difficult you know but like they're running around Arizona these are rich white kids who's I mean rich by the standards of Arizona not Manhattan their parents own a fucking gym or but like they're running around arizona these are rich white kids who's i mean rich by the standards of arizona not manhattan their parents own a fucking gym or
Starting point is 01:58:29 something but they're also like you know what i mean they're also kind of uh raised in a social media era that's not really about this is gonna sound super fucking pretentious whatever but there's not a lot of art in it it's more just like clout and clicks that's correct just how do i get attention whereas there i feel like maybe we had a benefit, at least growing up in New York, where like, even if you weren't the most successful person, if you were the best artist, you had a lot of respect. Like people like, Hey, that guy right there is a great skateboarder. And you really respected that person because of their craft. And I feel like now it's just like, what kind of train wreck will get the most views and clicks? Okay. Let's put that out there. And then you have kids trying to recreate the train wreck instead of getting really good at a thing. And
Starting point is 01:59:09 when you know that it doesn't matter about being good, it just, it just matters how crazy the train wreck is. Of course, you're going to be nihilistic about it. Why would you care? You don't care at all. That's right. What's the split though? Cause you started saying Gen Z is like the most hopeful generation, and now you're saying. Well, listen, there's hope in them in that they look at our absurdities, and we do have a lot of absurdities. Yes. The worst version of them is black-eyed nihilists that don't care about anything at all. That's the fringes, I think.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Yeah. I think the best part of Gen Z is that they're appropriately skeptical of the institutions. Yeah. That, and they're not waiting. They're raised to be, it's like they don't need to learn like us. They need, yeah. Like we learn.
Starting point is 01:59:50 They look at Big Mama. They know. When Big Mama comes on with the cookie. Yeah. And she takes out the whiteboard. The boomers love it. They get excited. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:58 That's our avatar. That's Big Mama. Yeah. Katie's gonna come on and slap Jamie Dimon around. This is our Tuesday ritual. Yeah. The zoomers look come on and slap Jamie Diamond around. This is our Tuesday ritual. Yeah. The Zoomers look at that and they know what it is. They know it's fake. Yeah. They don't care.
Starting point is 02:00:11 They laugh at it. They laugh at it. It's funny. It's funny. It's entertainment. It's the way I look at it. And I think that's the best version of them. The worst version of them is running around and killing people in Arizona. To give them credit, there's stories of us killing who was it
Starting point is 02:00:27 Matthew Shepard I think when it was like the late 90s this dude is gay bunch of homophobic Yeah that was a meth thing that they've repurposed to be a homophobic thing
Starting point is 02:00:35 it was meth related. Oh really? I'm very big into facts but I'm sure they were homophobic as well. It just so happens people are fat. It was one of the
Starting point is 02:00:43 there's more layers to it that being said I'm sure nobody was winning a progressive award down there. We had our fringes that did crazy. We had our fringe. We had the trench coat mafia. Yeah. We had school shooters. We still do.
Starting point is 02:00:56 There's always going to be, I think, that antisocial thing. Yeah. But are these kids getting, the machines are also big. Maybe it's not the kids of the future. Maybe it's the machines. I feel like the Zoomers would see a school shooter
Starting point is 02:01:10 and like eye roll. They'd be like, right. Oh yeah, totally. It's still happening. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 02:01:15 the thing about the school shootings now is that they're not as effective as they were in the sense that society doesn't care. There we go. They don't sense that society doesn't care. There we go. They don't care.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Society doesn't care anymore. No one cares. Yeah, it sucks. And it might actually stop them. That's what I'm saying. Start pouring gas and lighting yourself on fire. There you go. Make some change.
Starting point is 02:01:38 At least that's you. I have no problem with that. That's just you making a choice for your own body. That's you. That's the Zoomers. If they're so desensitized. Then do it yourself. That's a great moment that he's having.
Starting point is 02:01:48 And I look at it because when I see, and he's still, because he begins the Free Palestine, he says it and he says it, and then the third one he's really going, so he's like, ah, ah, ah. He's curdling. But it's a great moment in terms of, you know, brand awareness.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Yeah. This is brand awareness. It is. It's brand awareness. He's in the fatigues. He's in the camo. He's in front of brand awareness. This is brand awareness. It is. It's brand awareness. He's in the fatigues. He's in the camo. He's in front of the embassy. Fresh press.
Starting point is 02:02:10 It's well-framed. The video's good. It's not too high-def. You don't want too high-def. You don't want to shoot this in 4K. This is a 1080. It doesn't feel corporate. It feels good.
Starting point is 02:02:19 It's a 1080. It's a 1080. You want it a little blurry, a little grainy. It's more historic. It's more historic. I's a 1080. You want it a little blurry, a little grainy. It's more historic. It's more historic. And I just like, I love this for him right now. Is there any narration? Yeah, he just yells free policy a few times.
Starting point is 02:02:32 We need like a black kid holding it like, damn. Yeah, well, it's got to be on Worldstar. People are going to comment on it. But I just love this for him right now. I love the visceral. I love the look. Yeah. And I just love, I think it's, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:45 because marketing companies are looking at this. If you don't think they're going to somehow learn a lesson from this to sell Chobani flips, you're out of your mind. Chobani flips.
Starting point is 02:02:55 You're completely out of your mind. If the Chobani marketing team is not watching this video. Those are great. And they're amazing because you put right in. It works.
Starting point is 02:03:05 But if you don't think they're watching this over and over are great. And they're amazing because you put light in. It works. But if you don't think they're watching this over and over again to try to figure out how do we get it to do, like, what if we pour nuts on ourselves
Starting point is 02:03:13 outside of the Danon family? Yeah, there you go. Say Free Palestine. Get Kendall Jenner on it. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 02:03:20 yeah. So it's interesting, you know? Tim. Andrew. I love you. You are the man. Thank you for having me. I want everybody to, you know? Tim. Andrew. I love you. You are the man. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 02:03:27 I want everybody to go check out Tim's stand-up. He is on tour. You're constantly on tour. I'm over. It's over. I don't know how you chose it out. My agent is very overweight, and this is why it works. Justin, we love you, Justin.
Starting point is 02:03:39 We love you because when you're on tour a lot, you're killing yourself. Yeah. But he's also killing himself at home. Yeah. So I can't yell at him. It's not like I have a fit agent playing tennis. Yeah. And I'm just dying.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Yeah. We're both dying. That's why it works. But I'm getting off Royal Albert Hall. Come to London. And then we're done. And a whole European tour, too. And a European tour, Helsinki and the other crap.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Who cares? Come to Royal Albert. Who cares? Dublin sold out or Belfast. Amazing. One of those hell holes. Yeah. tour, Helsinki and the other crap. Who cares? Come to Royal Albert, who cares? Dublin sold out or Belfast. One of those hell holes. I'm kidding. I'm from there. I love you. Potato heads.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Now the point is, Royal Albert Hall, we're talking Marco. We're talking good people over there. We're defending the monarchy. I'm there to defend the monarchy from the interlocutors, from the people that are coming in. And the Tim Dillon Show. And we love everyone and thank you. And you're the best. Yo, check out Tim Dillon Show.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Thank you so much. We need Tim to host SNL, dude. Yo, Tim. Oh, yeah. We didn't even talk about SNL. Shout out to Shane. He did a great job. He did an amazing job.
Starting point is 02:04:38 They asked me to host an RFK benefit instead. So that's similar. It was on a Saturday. I said no. But that's what I'm doing right now. It's like just me and RFK dodging bullets. How do you feel about RFK?
Starting point is 02:05:00 Fun. Like him. Not going to win, but that's okay. Would you vote for him? Are you voting for him? Maybe. I think I would. I think I would. I do like him. Yeah. I do like him, not going to win, but that's okay. Would you vote for him? Are you voting for him? Maybe. I think I would.
Starting point is 02:05:06 I think I would. I do like him. Yeah. I do like him a lot. I think I would vote for him. He's hard to run for president. Yeah. That's what I'll say.
Starting point is 02:05:17 He's charming, though. He's charming. His wife is amazing. Cheryl Hines is amazing. Herb is the greatest comedy. And brave, knowing that every time his family did this, they got killed. I mean, they would go shoot his dog in the head in front of him, and then look at him and go, isn't it sad that dog drowned?
Starting point is 02:05:32 It's unbelievable. Black lab? Yeah, yeah. They go, God, that's sad the way you're dressed. And he'd be bleeding with a bullet in his head. He'd be staring at him as a kid. No, he went through a lot. It's audacious what they've done to his family.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Yeah, it's crazy. I like staring at him as a kid. No, it is. He went through a lot. It's audacious what they've done to his family. Yeah, it's crazy. I like, even just looking into it. They've also killed the Kennedys though, but that doesn't make it right. Wait, tell me, tell me, tell me. Well, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:52 Ted drove that woman off a bridge, drowned her. They were bootleggers. They were in with the mafia. I heard the bootlegging. I heard the bootlegging. They were rapists. They raped people.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Really? Oh, yeah. Well, now I really want them on. Yeah. No, they're not him, but when we're talking, they probably whacked Marilyn Monroe and stuff. They're now I really want them on. Yeah. No, they're not him. Now I need RFA to come on. But when we're talking, they probably whacked Marilyn Monroe and stuff. They're not clean.
Starting point is 02:06:09 Nobody's hands are clean. They whacked Marilyn Monroe for saying that she fucked a gay? Yeah, there's things. But, I mean. I heard the bootlegger thing was a CIA smear. No, they're not clean. They're not clean. I didn't say they're clean.
Starting point is 02:06:20 I just heard the bootlegger thing was. Because he was making clean movies in middle America. That was the business. Was it the business? I just think it's kind of well known that, well, they certainly became friends with a lot of mobsters if they weren't bootleggers. What a fun coincidence. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:06:38 What do you think? We've got to have a mob. At that level of society, you're coming with a lot of unsavory types. I'm not saying that the Kennedys deserved anything that happened to them. I'm just saying they're not an innocent family. Really? So they're not just this innocent, benevolent family that's just trying to save the Hudson?
Starting point is 02:06:59 No. No, they never were. They were a ruthless, bloodthirsty, you know. Dynasty. Patrician, blue blood cult. That, of course, has some weird curses. And they threatened a lot of power factions that eventually hit back. And that was not good.
Starting point is 02:07:17 So they wouldn't play ball. They could have just rose to power, been another great American name. Yeah, JFK was a patriot. He loved his country. He was certainly a guy who had, was a revolutionary guy in the sense that he believed that the American government should function a different way.
Starting point is 02:07:37 And that ended up getting him killed. Seems like everybody who believes that kind of ends up dying. Yes, but also those people, you know, aren't always, they're not always, their motives, you know, are not always, they make a lot of messes along the way. Yeah. To getting to where they get to. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:07:58 Back to Shane real quick. Amazing story. Yes. Amazing. Deceived it, it's done. Yes. real quick. Amazing story. Yes. Amazing. Deceited, it's done. Yes.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Kind of galvanized the comedy community to support SNL when I feel like we were kind of fractured with SNL. Yeah, I think it's a great story. I think people are supporting Shane and he did an amazing job and it's such a great story. I think. It's also so weird the thing that you see.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Also, one thing that shocked me because he was you know he was in the city working out the yeah yeah the monologue and i've seen him do the monologue and just fucking crush every time i saw him go up and the down syndrome part i thought was the most endearing yeah hilarious spot like yeah yeah really i literally was watching him do it in the cellar and i was going when he goes up and he does on snl everybody in that building that ever doubted him or fired him is going to feel like the biggest fucking
Starting point is 02:08:48 piece of shit. Right. Right? Yeah. And just the fact and I thought we were beyond this point in comedy, just the fact that he said Down Syndrome, you could feel the audience fucking clam up. But I think that's what was good about it. I actually think that, to me, I watch it, I thought it killed by, and I also
Starting point is 02:09:03 thought he did great. Because here's the deal. I think that should happen to an extent. People should go, what's going on? And then, he's so funny, he overcomes any of that. I think it's good. I think tension's good. I don't see the building of tension, the releasing of it. That's what comedy is. So I think it was...
Starting point is 02:09:20 I think it's a little different. But it's New York City. Here's the deal. You're performing in New York City, the middle of New York City, and people might be a little like, uh-oh. We it's New York City. You're performing in New York City, in the middle of New York City, and people might be a little like, uh-oh. We perform in New York City every single night. Yeah, but it's probably a crowd of people that might be a little bit more sensitive. That's what I'm saying. I didn't realize that there was still,
Starting point is 02:09:34 I thought that we were beyond the point where you can't talk about this, but there are still topics, I guess, maybe in certain areas. I think that's good for us. I don't think we need to be in a place because I think our superpower, if there is a superpower, is making something funny that shouldn't be. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 02:09:50 But now, so it's, so that to me, that's the most fun time when you can't say anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The most fun time to do comedy. For sure. I do feel like we're entering a time where you can say anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was a reminder to me like, oh, maybe there's certain spaces. For sure.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Because I really thought that that part of it, that they initially tightened up, obviously ended up winning him over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I couldn't believe it. But it had been, I was very invested in not liking this guy. And now I have to reassess everything, because this is a guy who comes from, I had him painted as this bigot who's from this certain type of family. No, because it was the end of the set, the beginning of the set, he's crushing.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Yeah. bigot who's from this certain type of family. No, because it was the end of the set. The beginning of the set, he's crushing. I thought the moment where he flipped everything, it wasn't rocky by any stretch, but I could feel things ascend when he started being like, I can look at everybody not laughing at me right now. He kind of stepped outside of the set, and then he closed. I thought it just crushed. I think it's comedy. It's just sets are sets
Starting point is 02:10:41 are sets. That's really what it was a masterful set, I think, especially for a monologue on that show. Yeah. Amazing. I also think the SNL audience, they know that it's being recorded. They know it's live. Yeah, there's a pressure on them. I want to host SNL in Russia, and where I'm standing there, and then there's red lights on my chest.
Starting point is 02:11:00 And I say, hello, and Putin's there, and everyone nods, and I go, it I'm like, and I say hello and Putin's there and everyone nods and I go, it's great to be here. And then like after every joke, it's just a bunch of like oligarchs and czars and they're all smoking cigars and they're all just kind of looking at each other and there's no left. Everyone just kind of looks at each other.
Starting point is 02:11:16 So that would be mine. That would be amazing for me. And then I just get through it and they just kind of, you know. Would you have Putin on? Yeah. Really? I absolutely would.
Starting point is 02:11:24 They should have had you over there, dude. It would have been a lot more fun. Yeah. What would you have done when he starts doing the history lesson? Would you go, ba-ba-ba-ba? I would. I think a little of the history lesson was good, but I would have got into it
Starting point is 02:11:40 and been like, what did you think of Prince Oleg? Piece of shit? Between me and you. What do you think about all of this stuff? Do you think these Prince Oleg? Piece of shit? Between me and you. What do you think about all of this stuff? Do you think these guys, was there any gay activity? Do you think there was gay activity? Do you think there was any gay activity with Oleg? Let's be honest. I hear
Starting point is 02:11:55 Oleg. We were talking to this historian, apparently Hitler, big gay. Is that true? Or just very, maybe not gay, but very welcoming of the gays. Was that true? That's what we heard. And apparently had to change his policy a little bit later because some other people were not as welcoming.
Starting point is 02:12:12 But what was he saying? Yeah, that there was a lot of gay SS members that were very openly gay that he was kind of accommodating of and didn't really have any issues. I think at the end of the day, he's like, I think Hitler's thing was we have one job. Which is? And if everyone's doing that job, we're not going to run around and get real personal with everybody and nitpick. We have one gig. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:32 We've got a tunnel vision. Yeah. But then sometimes people are like, oh, but they came for the Catholics too. I know that's. Yeah, they did come for us. They mostly wanted to come for us. They mostly came for us.
Starting point is 02:12:44 That's right away. Maybe to recruit more Jews. It was really a Catholic issue. That's what I learned about the Holocaust. That's what the boomers do. The boomers see the Holocaust and are like, it happened to us as well. It's a genocide of white Christians. If the boomers can be explained in one sentence, it's a woman sitting down drinking a coffee going, the Irish were slaves too. Thank you guys.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Thank you so much.

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