Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Was Chappelle’s Special THAT Special?
Episode Date: June 16, 2020This week Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, AlexxMedia and Mark Gagnon discuss if the NBA players should sit out for BLM, was Chappelle's special that special, the first Black Bachelor and how racist the f...ans of The Bachelor are, if we would go to a Trump rally, does yoga cause rape and much more. INDULGE! Want an extra episode a week? Join the Flagrant Army www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2
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all right what's up what's up everybody yo akash is tight man what's up china yo what's up akash
angry at china this is not about corona apparently there's beef on the china india border for any new
listeners um akash is half chinese half indian you know he's really torn apart on this one bro he's torn apart dog so so tell me what you're
going through right now as a half chinese half indian man don't do that to me yo that to me yo
no so akash came in here pure blood out this bitch this how you know he knows we don't give
a fuck about what's happening on the india china border he didn't even put that on the episode
notes he was gonna write it on the top of the notes.
He was going to write it.
Here's some interesting stories.
Instead, he was like, nah, put in what Patrick Beverly said about the truck.
I'm not doing this to myself.
Mark just came in on Black Lives Matter time.
I like you. Support the movement. Mark just came in on Black Lives Matter time. I love you.
Support the movement, Mark.
Show of solidarity, bro.
Mark out here, show of solidarity.
Alex Media.
All right.
So, okay, Akash, break down to the people and try to make it interesting.
I just read about this on the way in.
Message us at what point you turn off the podcast as Akash describes
what's happening
at the China-India...
Akash, tight, tight.
Akash, really tight.
Akash, really tight.
All right, go, go, go.
You know why I'm tight?
I'm going to be interested.
I'm going to be interested.
You know why I'm tight?
You know what side I'm on.
You know why I'm tight?
Who?
You fucked it up, yo.
What is it?
It's Namaste.
What are you giving
Chinese sounds for?
Yeah, that's what I did.
I gave the Chinese sounds.
But you did the Indian.
You think Chinese people don't do this?
They bow, son.
Like the little subservient assholes they are.
How do you think they hit the fucking cymbals, bro?
Here's why I'm upset.
You think Chinese people don't go like that?
Here's why I'm upset.
Because you think I know why they're fighting.
They created that.
You think you invented the put your hands together?
Hell yeah, yo.
Man, come on, bro.
That's Chinese people.
Put your hands together, yo.
How do you think they bind their feet?
They make them put their hands and feet together.
And then they bind their shit.
That's only the feet, yo.
No, real talk.
And even that's Indian.
That's some yoga shit.
Are Chinese people just ripping off everything Indian?
That's probably what this is about.
Yo!
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God.
They're about to rip off your land in a little bit.
Dude, you think they're about to appropriate your whole country?
Son, they're trying.
Son, hold on.
Okay, okay.
Breakdown, breakdown.
We're going to interrupt you every few seconds, but try to break down what's going on.
Here's the thing.
I don't know why they're fighting.
I just know on the border there were some deaths.
Uh-huh.
And if everybody's not on India's side, I'm going to be fucking livid.
So you expect us to side with India in a war against China?
I expect anybody to side with whoever's warring against China.
Why?
Because Corona!
What about it?
That's them!
They did it?
Hell yeah, they did it.
Whether intentionally or not,
and I'm going to be honest,
I think intentionally,
they did that shit.
Fuck them.
You know who you need to send there to the border?
That motherfucker from How Can She Slop?
Son, fuck that.
Fuck China.
They out.
Let's get them out.
You think we should get them out?
We gotta.
How are we going to get them out?
There's gotta be some kind of economic sanction or something.
I've been saying this before,
Annie,
this,
this tension.
They gotta be,
they can't just start a fucking,
uh,
pandemic.
And then we all act like they didn't.
Yo,
what?
Yo,
yo,
just go ahead and assume.
No,
this is actually an interesting thing because,
because I heard that,
whatever,
there's like long-term strategies that they have.
China?
In place.
I 100% believe that.
Yeah, because apparently all them koi fish turn into Chinese soldiers.
I don't know if you knew that.
No, this is true.
In all the Hilton hotels, they got them little ponds.
Yeah.
And they're waiting.
And right at the right time, it's going to be a gong.
And they all turn into Chinese soldiers.
They've been working on this shit since Ninja Turtles, yo yo they've been trying to train these little motherfuckers to
fight for him that's what foot soldiers are yo fucking sushi dinners pop up for real you got
to figure out how you're gonna take advantage though how you guys are gonna fight because
we're gonna have your back okay hey everybody But what are you guys going to use to fight them?
Fucking, hey.
Like, what do Indians have?
What's your weapon?
Like, what is the Indian weapon?
Get out of here.
The Indian weapon is people, yo.
No, but you, yeah, it's people, but they also got people.
You guys need a weapon.
No, we got more people.
No, you don't.
Oh, they might come with the bamboo sticks, though.
We got more people for sure. The bamboo sticks that they would just smack them motherfuckers
on the street to go back inside that's your weapon sticks indians need a real weapon bro
what is your weapon i don't know what your weapon
you're saying that you're gonna use use Oh my God, we need weapons
against Chinese people?
What the fuck
are we talking about?
Chinese people got karate.
They got martial arts.
Get the fuck out of here, karate.
They got smoke bombs.
Karate is only effective
when black people learn it.
Say again?
Karate is only effective
when black people learn it.
Black people and Bruce Lee.
Let me take that in.
That is interesting.
Bruce Leroy will fuck everybody up.
Yo, Bruce Lee versus Bruce Leroy? Who everybody yo bruce lee versus bruce leroy
who do you think got that bruce leroy dog ain't even a question yo were there any black guys in
street fighter the video game yeah uh not ballrog ballrog that don't count because ballrog is in a
later version of street fighter the initial he's in the initial the black black dude. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Who's the black guy in Street? Are you talking about the Brazilian, Blanca?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Son.
No, not that guy.
The fucking monster.
No, no, no.
What are you talking about?
Not that guy.
The other black guy.
He had the fuck.
He looked like Mr. T.
Oh, Sagat?
No.
Come on, son.
Hold on.
What?
Sagat was Thai.
Sagat was Thai, dude.
What's his name?
There were no black guys in Street Fighter? You fucking sagat was thai dude what's his name there were no black guys in street fighter
you fucking sagat yeah dude how are there no black guys there's not like some guys too the
jamaican fighter dj see there was no black guys in street fighter 2 that was like a later street
fighter 2 because street fighter 2 the first one yeah that's japanese but these think about let me
see if we could get all these characters. Ryu, Ken, Blanca.
Zangief.
Zangief, Dhalsim.
How do you not do Dhalsim?
Vega, Sagat, M. Bison, Chung Li, Guile.
I'm fucking impressed right now.
Yeah, I am impressed.
Yeah, so y'all know spells.
I know Street Fighter, you fucking.
I know Spells.
I know Street Fighter.
You fucking.
Was that beeped?
Who knows?
Y'all can guess.
No, but for real.
Okay.
Did I miss anybody?
They had no black people in Street Fighter.
Son, I think DJ was in the original.
DJ was not in the original.
I don't even know what the fuck DJ looks like.
Bring up DJ so we can see.
Fucking sag it.
Real talk.
Real talk, bro.
Y'all, there were no black people in Street Fighter.
This motherfucker right here.
E-Honda.
That's him.
Come on, yo. That's who you left out.
No, E-Honda's right.
E-Honda's here.
This is E-Honda.
You left out E-Honda.
This is a black dude.
Go back.
Go to him.
What do you mean go to back. Go to him. What do you mean, go to him?
This is-
Go to him.
Go to him.
You can't-
Mark, are you looking this up?
Son, this is the black dude.
I'm telling you, we had a black dude.
You just never fought with him, you racist motherfucker.
Hell no.
You?
No, but you got to fight against him.
I remember one time I was fighting against this black dude, and that motherfucker was
yelling, world star.
The whole time I was like chill bro
yoga flame
yoga flame
now for real
can you bring up a picture of him
like the whole character
I don't believe that guy was a character Al
I don't believe that guy was a character
I think you making that shit up anyway i'm telling you he was in the original nah he was just upgraded
his look but he was all right sorry we're we're interrupting we're interrupting uh how india is
gonna be china what the fuck are you guys gonna use to fight them do you guys have an army yeah
okay what weapons do you guys have what are you known for what is the weapon you guys going to use to fight them do you guys have an army yeah okay what
weapons do you guys have what are you known for what is the weapon you're known for if it's hand
to hand combat what is the weapon that you're known for motherfucking yoga dog so what we're
gonna reach around these guys you know i mean fucking grab them and do what like what are you
doing the weapon is a billion people. They got a billion people too.
We got 1.4 and they're old motherfuckers.
Young people are not enough.
Y'all got the oldest people.
We got the oldest people.
We got mad young people too.
They don't got young people because they got one child per family.
I don't know about that, bro.
India's the most populated country.
It's not even a question.
Son, I really am concerned about india
we need to give y'all a weapon what is white people could be our weapon y'all have our
fucking back for once we got your back what if we had a common enemy do we i've always had india's
back yeah but haven't i always defended india china throughout the years they know they own
our debt though like what china owns us so let's go with india
solve that shit that's what i'm saying come on bro talking about al so yeah you come up with
a trader you come up with a plan for the iphones and jordan's black people on who the fuck you
think program this thing they just made it yeah it programmed sh You know, you're just saying things. Yeah. I'm just saying. Wait,
India programs,
I voted.
That's too foolish
for this podcast.
That shit really bothered
our conference.
The fact that you said
Indians couldn't program,
that really bothered
our conference
It's like,
what are we doing?
What are we doing
at this point?
What are you saying things?
No,
but in all seriousness,
I want to support Indians
in the best way possible.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to find a way where we could create a weapon for you.
Send us your weapons.
But I don't even know if you guys know how to use a weapon.
Real talk.
What is that?
Fuck China.
That's our weapon.
Fuck China.
That's our weapon.
What is everybody have our back?
China out here trying to kill everybody with their fucking pandemic.
Okay.
Send us your weapons.
Why people?
You got the best weapons.
Give them to us.
Yeah.
But your most powerful thing is tricking white people into doing your shit
no we've been doing shit and pretending we're you outsourcing calls no i'm talking about like i say
my name is fucking brian you don't need yeah that's true but i'm saying you don't need white
if you can get white people to join the fucking rajneeshi or whatever that is right if you can
get white people do yoga if you can get white people to put the fucking Rajneeshi or whatever that is, right? If you can get white people to do yoga,
if you can get white people to put the feathers in their heads and shit,
and to do the bindis,
you can get white support for an anti-China war.
That's what I'm saying.
You come be our soldiers.
Man, I don't know about all that, bro.
Y'all might have to deal with that one yourself.
I'm down to support India.
People want your weapons,
and you gotta fight for them.
I'm really concerned.
Give us the weapons. We're good money. I'm really concerned Don't give us the weapons
We're good money
I'm honestly concerned
That I don't know
How you guys are gonna do the fighting
If we don't have support
We're not gonna win
Why you think I'm so passionate
About this subject
Yeah yeah yeah
What you think I'm talking about
It might be a wrap
I'm on his side now
Because he hasn't said
Black people need to do anything
So I'm on your side
Yo
Are you gonna ask
Black people
No
So we good Hold on Are you gonna ask black people no so yeah we good
stop their fight for civil rights here and then fight against no son if anything i'm trying to
get more white people to go to india so you can get fucking you know i mean seize the opportunity
there we go there we go i'm on board for nothing fuck china Fuck China Are you comfortable owing?
Alright, alright, alright So India, we're with you bro
We stand with you India, we got you
If China talks that shit
We gotta do something to China, I really believe this
Economic sanctions, we all gotta go to war
But there gotta be economic sanctions
I don't let them listen to this podcast
I drew a line in the sands bro hey i drew
a line in the sand guys hey you gotta click the boxes they're like do you want them to listen to
in china i said nope nope real talk uh you know they ain't finding this shit on their google
they're not fucking offensive ass podcast there's no way they listen to this in china but they listen to us in india though
they do listen to us in india shout to india man what do y'all call india
oh what do we call india what did you just repeat the fucking question i just asked
i didn't really understand a question so what do y'all call india
that was the original name okay all right what do you say like um you know like uh I didn't really understand the question, so I'm not feeling it. What do y'all call India? Bharat. Bharat?
That was the original name.
Okay.
All right.
What do you say, like, you know, like, God bless America is our slogan.
What y'all got?
India's in the bath.
India's in the bath.
Say it again.
India's in the bath.
India's in the bath.
I don't think y'all been in the bath at all, but I think that's one of the biggest issues with India.
Y'all need a fucking bath.
Talk about us not showering, gagging gag now sitting here growing fucking dreadlocks he's french yeah
bro come on i was late no he canadian dude he's gay french that's true
if you go double gay does it make it straight? I'll tell you from experience,
yes.
You cross the swords
and then it comes back.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, dog.
So for real,
if any of y'all
are still listening, bro,
we stand with India.
Flagrant 2 is rocking
with India
in this whole thing,
okay?
Until China wipes them out
and then China,
you know,
we gonna reconcile
and do what we need to do. I'm saying, yo, we need your support right now, yo. We need your support in this whole thing okay until china wipes them out and then china you know we're gonna reconcile
what is it not indians on the back what the you're Not Indians in the back. What the fuck are y'all talking about? In the back.
How do you say it?
Zindabad.
India Zindabad.
Man, I pronounced the pussy out of that.
I really did, dude.
India Zindabad.
Not that good.
Say it one more time.
Say it one more time, you hick.
Fucking farmer.
That's your farmer-ass accent.
Look at all these Indians listening in here right now.
What part of the farm is he from?
Real talk, yo, if you're Indian listening to this podcast,
does our guys not have a Pakistani accent?
That's fireworks.
I swear to God, I'll walk off this podcast right now. I'll walk off this podcast right now God I'll walk off this podcast Right now
I'll walk off this podcast
Right now
I'll walk off this podcast
Right now
I was offended for that
Crossing lines yo
Come on yo
Yo
Okay no
But seriously
That's how you call
A brown guy
An Uncle Tom
An Indian
You don't call him
An Uncle Tom
You call him a Pakistani
Really?
Probably
A Pakitan
A Pakitan Yo I got a really really probably I don't know a pocket on a pocket on
yo I got a really
cool announcement
man I've been waiting
to make this
announcement for a
while we going
back on the road
man we are going
back on the road
it's official
theandrewschultz.com
for for the dates
the cities the
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to continue adding
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the shows that we've you know we couldn't do obviously because of Corona we've they get confirmed um a lot of the shows that
we've uh you know we couldn't do obviously because of corona we've rescheduled so a lot of those are
popping back up on it but the first day back that we are out there on the road performing again is
going to be in kansas city missouri shout out to missouri the show me state is it i don't know it's the show me state yeah we will better not show no corona
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Then we're going to be in Huntington.
Oh, no, no.
Actually, we're going to move
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Long Island date,
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But hey, we got plenty more.
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And obviously,
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those tickets and we got this all right let's get back oh okay no for real akash we've got a lot to
talk about today yeah okay um like i mean there's been so many amazing things that have happened
in the news do you know what i mean i just don't know what's
coming that's all that's the best part yeah you don't either no i know neither do i but uh but
no for real dude like um what did y'all what did y'all think about
listen we've tried to have this discussion about the chapelle a46 thing it's been very difficult
um high stakes because you don't want to criticize it because it seems like you're criticizing
the thing that he's supporting right so it's very difficult to detach this from detach the art from
the point that he's making because there's not a lot of art in it
right it's not if it was stand-up you could criticize the stand-up jokes but it's not
stand-up he's just talking about what's happening um right now in our country and he's saying things
um and speaking eloquently on it so you don't want to criticize it because it seems like you're
criticizing his point of view instead of criticizing the way that he's delivering it
right is that fair yeah sure yeah that that's why i think it's so harsh right so i think the
reaction a lot of people have and i think we agreed to look at this through two lens lenses
one is our reaction to the piece and the other is our reaction to people's reaction to the piece.
Yes.
Right?
And it's really difficult because we're jaded in a way because our expectation from Chappelle is so fucking great.
Nothing less than mastery is acceptable.
Is acceptable.
Nothing.
If you are not putting every point forward masterfully yeah it's not chapelle and also keep this in mind for
people who are listening a lot of you guys haven't been in a room and watched dave chapelle for six
hours straight like akash and i have and alex has and i think in la you did it or is it yeah it was
in la right and mark i don't know if you ever saw a long set from chappelle but like it's amazing it is unreal his ability to like control a room and honestly
control expectation and patience you're not bored he could talk for six hours and not bored
and akash you were kind of bringing this up with the special or not the special with this piece
with this talk that he gave 846 which was i thought it
was good overall but i was bored in the middle there were boring parts and that's kind and some
of his points i'm like oh that's that's the week that's the smoke you gave candace owens the candace
own smoke was in like your pussy stinks undeniably weak and again it's so weird to even sit here and
like criticize it i almost feel like the only reason we're talking about this is because it was exalted by the people so that's i think the issue and i think some of us had a
bigger issue with it than others yeah me comics yeah comics are and i this is hypocritical because
comics are like this is what comedy should be this is whatever it is i thought it was a good
special it is not a good comedy special it's not comedy it was a good special. It is not a good comedy special. It's not comedy. It was a good talk. And I will let Dave Chappelle do this because I respect his brilliance and he has the credibility
built up.
If you're some fucking loser at an open mic, this is not what comedy is.
In the same way, we do not let Hannah Gadsby slide and say that's comedy.
That's not comedy.
Neither is this.
Right.
Exactly.
The criticism of Hannah Gadsby would be like the people who agree with everything she's
saying love her and the people who don't agree are going to go, well, it's not funny enough for
me to not agree. And the amazing thing about comedy is that when a joke is funny, you cannot
agree with the point of view, but it's so funny, you're willing to digest it. It's like when you
make a horrible food out of like sugar yeah you
know how like sometimes people make a like a boot out of cake right right you know what i'm talking
about and it's like oh fuck i'm eating a boot but i'm not like that's what comedy can be it can be
this like sugary encasing for this thing that you would never eat in your life right and um i think
maybe i was waiting for him to say stuff in a way that was so unimpeachable that people who completely disagreed
with the support of Black Lives Matter
and the support of this movement to end police brutality
and give black people the equality they're supposed to have,
I was waiting for him to put forward these masterful arguments
and I didn't see it based on a Chappelle level of mastery.
Like I liked the Eric Dorner comparison.
I thought that was really clever.
This idea of like,
and that is like a glimpse of what Chappelle does.
He's like,
or sorry,
it's Eric Garner,
Chris Dorner.
Yeah.
So it's like,
that's what he'll do.
He'll take something and he'll go and he'll make you empathize.
Let's say you're super supportive of the police.
He'll take that empathy you have for the police and he'll go and he'll make you empathize. Let's say you're super supportive of the police.
He'll take that empathy you have for the police and he'll find a way to position that
for this person that might be your enemy.
Right.
And he did that.
And granted, this is his first time on stage in months.
I think that if he had another three weeks with that joke
or that idea, that's a hilarious bit.
I don't even think rust is ever an issue for him.
I think he is. Well, there's a difference between rust I don't even think rust is ever an issue for him. I think he is.
Well,
there's a difference
between rust
and time working out a joke.
So I think he didn't even have
the time.
I think he felt like
he needs to say something now
and he's had three weeks
to come up with bits
about this.
Right, right.
So I wouldn't say 87 days.
I'd say he has to put out
content in what,
21 days?
Regardless, regardless.
Like if that's your first time
on stage,
just for people who don't understand how comedy works works yeah exactly so it's like you start with
an idea on stage and it's not that funny but the idea is there yeah and then it's just like a piece
of wood you slowly carve it and shape it into a sculpture right and i feel like we had like
the wood right there right and again it's like, and that's a thought that I had that just came to me now.
Yeah.
You two are looking at it from comics POV.
Yeah.
I was just I'm just like a fan.
Right.
And so I thought it was a little bit better than what you guys think.
Of course, I don't think it's Chappelle's best piece, but I also don't look at this as a comedy special.
I just look at this like a public speaking event.
Yeah. I just look at this like a public speaking event as he talks on the issues going on.
And then he just throws a little funny just to keep you engaged with it.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Looking at it from that point of view, I thought it was okay.
I didn't hear anything new that I didn't already know.
I did think it was good.
But because he's such a great orator, it's like I was glued.
I did think it was good.
I wasn't glued.
And to your point, in the middle, I was like, yo, he's losing me.
And at the end, and I've said this to y'all multiple times now,
but this really hit me when he talked about George Floyd calling for his mom
and then his dad.
He's only heard that one other time, his dad calling for his grandma.
And at the end, he says, my dad's grandma was a slave.
And the recency of that fucking stuck with me yeah yeah and again we all no one knows how long ago
slavery was we all kind of put it 400 years ago 300 years ago 200 years ago that i was like holy
fuck slavery was mad recent like slavery not separate water fountains i'm talking about no
water in the fields mad reason so like that
affected me in a way that i was like fuck and that made it worth it for me so i think i'm a
little less harsh because i hadn't maybe i just don't know history at all i don't really care to
but that put it in a way to me that i was like fuck if it was released by ted if it was a ted
talk would your reaction be different no No. It'd be the same.
Yeah, because what I missed from it were prolific arguments.
And I'm used to him making such prolific arguments within his stand-up.
For me, and Akash and I might debate this, but when I see the arguments in his stand-up,
I'm like, that logic is so unimpeachable that I could present that to the most right-wing person or the most left-wing person. And both of them will sit there and go,
nah, you got a point. And what I saw here was raw emotion. And sometimes you need to speak
off emotion. I'm not saying there isn't a place for that. But what Chappelle did so beautifully,
I think, in his career was took that emotion and then carved it into these beautiful arguments that did a lot of the intellectual heavy lifting for the people
that listened and watched them. And then you could take those arguments and then you could
use them when you're debating your uncle who might not really be empathetic to this struggle.
And I just didn't really see that here. So if it was a TED Talk, I'd be like,
there wasn't enough TED. What I saw was, you know what I'm
saying? There wasn't enough Ted in it. So it was just a talk that I thought wasn't up to the
standard of brilliance that Chappelle has. And if those arguments were made funny, I'd be like,
all right, it was cool. I laughed. It was really, but then he didn't really put the effort to make
them funny. So it was missing brilliance and missing funny and i think
i went into it i think i went into it because i saw the way people react into it you gotta see
this is the greatest thing ever that this will never be not spoken about and it's no different
than when you go into a movie and people say it's amazing and you're like wait a minute wasn't it
the greatest movie i ever seen and now it seems like a letdown because my expectations
were so high
so two things
that's a big difference
actually
because my
the first things
comics sent me
like Robbie Slovic
who I trust
was like
it's not comedy
still watch it
and then
my girl had time
to watch it before me
and she was like
she said the Hannah Gadsby
thing
she was like
alright
don't shit on Hannah Gadsby
I'm like this
and I was like
okay so it's not
going to be funny
and I know this so you went in with the right expectation so I, okay, so it's not going to be funny and I know this is going to happen.
So you went in with the right expectation.
So I went in knowing,
okay, it's not going to be funny.
And in the middle,
I was like, yo,
she might be right.
I might have to give Chappelle
that Hannah Gadsby smoke.
And then at the end,
maybe I was so relieved
there was something I could grab onto
that I was like,
oh, thank God.
Okay, I'm going to do that.
But two theories about
why it wasn't carved out
as beautifully as we would have hoped.
Yeah.
Mine is time. He just didn't have time and he felt like i have to say something the country's at a fucking breaking point yeah two is alex's theory that he presented earlier and say that on the mic
what the editing and all that like what he has in store oh yeah i really feel that he had a
performance a full stand-up performance and this was like the end of
the performance where it's like he just talks to the
crowd. So it's like he wasn't trying to deliver
jokes. And something that stuck with me when
Al said that is, you know, like
very early into the Chappelle set, he
goes, are y'all bored yet?
We've all seen Chappelle. When I see him doing
six hours, he doesn't ask that shit for four hours.
Are y'all bored yet? So for him
to say that eight minutes in or whatever, I remember the time being like that's mad early for chapelle
to ask if we're bored yep so that could be he could have done a long set knocked out some shit
and then at the end just been emotional and that's all he put out i think that chapelle is moving
towards and i've said this before just speaking and like being like almost like a teacher and like
he has such prolific thoughts that they he can just talk to us about these things and we see in the past and i've seen him
do it live etc i just didn't see that prolific things being said about this i and and look i
could be wrong but i ask you guys that are you know listen to the podcast like when you saw the
arguments that he laid out or what he was talking about like was there something that you were like
yo i didn't look at it that way outside of the of the dorner what's chris dorner chris
dorner outside of the chris dorner thing i i don't was there something that you were like again for
me the end and the end the end the thing the end i get why that resonated with you because i remember
once my dad was telling me, my dad did
this documentary on this guy, I forget his name, but he told a story about, he was this jazz
musician, and he told a story about his mom, I believe his mom.
The jazz musician's super old.
I believe his mom
seeing Abraham Lincoln
walk through DC.
That's crazy.
After slavery was abolished.
And...
She's one of the last people
to see this dude.
Now, I'm wondering
if it was his grandma,
but I believe it was his mom.
This guy has already passed.
But when he said that to me, I got that feeling you got, which was, oh, shit.
Yeah.
This is not that long ago.
Yeah.
So maybe the reason that didn't affect me in the same way is because I've heard that story.
But Chappelle putting it in that way, I can see how it really affected you.
And it can really put in context to other people who are not sympathetic to the black plight in america they're like yeah
why don't you get over that shit it's like it's new still right okay i see i see that i see that
there i don't know positives what are the positives chapelle said something that's a positive yeah i
thought the candace owens point was actually
pretty decent like obviously the roast of her was like was trash but like when he like candace
owens raises this point where she goes black people are the only group of people that sort of
like exalt or uphold the and make martyrs of the worst of our uh the worst of our group yeah and
that we constantly like praise and make t-shirts out of these people that are criminals and you know people and like why do we choose these people and then chapelle
says we don't choose them you choose them the cops choose them yeah the cop that was a great
point and i probably forgot about it because at that point i was like this is yeah the candace
owens roast was trash yeah i would almost rather heard him not roast her because it i think clouded
that point right and then his only rose over it was like,
she's so articulate.
And then the stinky pussy thing.
Right, right.
But he was complimenting her at the same time.
I was like, I felt conflicted
as to what he was trying to say.
Yo, I'm not gonna lie.
Candace handled that shit beautifully.
She's smart, dude.
She's not dumb.
That was what Chappelle said.
She's not dumb.
If y'all didn't see the way she handled it,
she didn't criticize.
She didn't push back.
She was just like,
she's like, to every Democrat tweeting me the clip of dave chapelle and son to sell to me
i'm not a left a leftist i have a sense of humor i think comics should make fun of people
dave chapelle is one of the greatest comedians of all time i made it to one of his specials that's
power and then she says some other shit like uh i hope that you know we meet sometime you could say
that stuff to my face and then like winky face.
But like she chose to take the road of,
I'm gonna laugh at this,
allow it to happen
instead of being all butthurt.
And then she actually looks good
coming out of it.
Whereas like if he leaned into that idea
and then leaned into the caricature that she is
and how the right,
the people on the right hold her up as a token so that all
of her their arguments can be filtered through her yeah so that they can't be called racist for
having i guarantee you if you ask him about candace owens he has a great opinion on candace
owens so why let's hear that i know and i don't that i agree with i agree with that this is like
what is and that point is a great point we don't want these people to be our heroes you do this that's a great point you think he's saving it for a stand-up bit you think he's
got like a bit probably because we do that we're on the road we release some of the stuff you know
but we're like no don't keep that that's going to be a bit we're going to put that in the next
special and maybe he has some real candace smoke but he's like oh no let me carve that out that's
going to be the one that like you know puts the machete and this could be proof i also thought this could be proof as i was watching it of what
you've said which is i think he's transitioning out of stand-up yes and i think i don't think
he is malcolm or martin but i think when people say like who's our guy he has the potential to be
one of those guys yeah in that it might not be the same level but that's that's who we got right now
and i think this is him maybe getting comfortable with stepping out of because there's because
humor for all of us is a defense mechanism yes so maybe for him it was let me get my points across
through humor and this is him kind of shedding away the defense mechanism of humor and it's
let me just put forth my emotion yeah and we'll carve it out from there i like i like that slow
transition we've seen him
do it right he did it at the i think mark twain yeah uh he did it um he's been doing it a bunch
of different places just kind of like talking but also talking funny and i've always said it's like
i'd love chapelle just be a teacher yeah i don't think that this was what he said was
at the level of his specials even his his special like i would rather listen to his
arguments from his specials without the punchlines like i think some of the arguments in the specials
without the punchlines were so prolific even when he did the bird revelation there weren't a lot of
punchlines in it she was incredible but it was masterful if you compare this to that there's a
different level of mastery going on we We can acknowledge that, right?
I'm going to say something that's going to sound blasphemous.
Go.
But Sticks and Stones wasn't up to the level of his other stuff.
So is it just...
Oh.
Come on, son.
We got to present all of the arguments.
To me, that's the goat.
But Sticks and Stones, I remember kind of thinking the same thing.
Like, these aren't ideas I haven't heard before. i expected more comedy special from sticks and stones this i was
thinking like you weren't a fan of sticks and stones i wasn't a massive fan it was good and
i'm glad chapelle's the guy carrying that torch forward it helps all of us yeah but i remember
thinking we've said this stuff and chapelle i i'm not a genius by any stretch if i have the same
point as chapelle i don't look at me smarter i look at chapelle like what are you doing what the hell's going on
here i think sticks and so it was a bar when he said like he can't say maggot but he could say
nigga on uh yeah the network execs yeah yeah and she was like oh well you can't say maggot because
you're not gay he's like well i'm also not a nigga yeah but a gay person could say the f word and if she said the same argument he'd be
like yeah well i'm not an f word see what i'm saying like the thing with that joke is the
argument on the surface seemed great because it satisfied our emotions but if you actually kind
of like peel it apart you're like so is the gay person an f word yeah he's not
but he can basically saying like you have the license to use the bad words that are attributed
to you but you don't have the license to use the bad words they attribute to people who aren't you
but he phrased it as if she was calling him the n-word so she got he kind of like sacrificed her
for the joke and i thought the joke was really good and this is one of the beautiful things
about stand-up it doesn't have to be the court of law no that can be like a really fun
fucking bit yeah and a great point yeah thanks a lot guys for not yeah we really ruined that
and maybe and i and maybe we ruin it for other people but maybe that's also like the way that
that's the standard we hold up to chapelle too for me yeah like i just think he's the greatest
living comedian i still think yeah i think and i love patrice but just the chapelle too for me yeah like i just think he's the greatest living comedian i still think yeah
i think and i love patrice but just the chapelle i just think goat like i just do and maybe patrice
is right underneath him or whatever but like i don't that doesn't take away from his greatness
it just that's what i saw you're still great yeah and the thing that was special about this if you
want to call it a special i'm not calling a comedy if you want to call it a special the thing that was special was he's dave chappelle showing us a side of himself he's never shown us
right and the timing and he spoke out and that's kind of what made it special and that's
that's it right and i don't mean that like fuck this is a piece of trash but like if we're gonna
call it a special that's why it's special and that's how i can compartmentalize it because it
wasn't special in its content necessarily right throughout it wasn't special in its content necessarily throughout.
It wasn't special in the fact that it was hilarious.
Why do you think people felt the need,
especially like our comics friends,
to like talk about how prolific it was?
He's our Trump, man.
He's our Trump.
Oh, like no matter what he does, it's good.
Yeah, but he's like, he's much,
and I'm not saying he is Trump at all.
I think he's the greatest.
But a Trump supporter, anything Trump does is brilliant.
Chappelle earned that with us, but anything he does is brilliant.
Ah, so we're looking at him through like rose-colored glasses or something like that?
Rose-colored glasses.
Yeah, yeah.
And he deserves it.
He's earned that.
Yeah, yeah.
I really believe if a guy overrates Chappelle, cool, just don't think you got the same license.
That's my only advice to comics. If you think this is comedy should be this is what dave chapelle is allowed to
be you are not yeah you're gonna be asking if people are bored a lot too they're gonna they're
gonna have been left bro where are you guys going there's a protest we gotta get yeah yeah man um
all right well i think that's a more productive discussion
damn we had earlier yeah i think we gotta talk about it you know like obviously you guys listen
to the podcast you don't want to hear our perspectives on on these things and um yeah man
yo i saw a fire ass movie uh wall e where i couldn't watch it they don't talk into that bitch son that's how useless
actors are actors are fucking useless okay i'm on board okay this is how this is why we shouldn't
listen to a single fucking thing any of them say there's a movie called wall e okay right this guy
this guy it's a movie about a robot called Wall-E. Right. And then another one called Eve.
They don't speak English.
They just say their names.
That's the whole movie.
That's it.
And it's cartoons.
You don't need actors for anything.
Did you see the movie, Al?
I did see the movie.
I couldn't make it through, yo.
I don't think.
It's a motherfucker cleaning up litter for 30 minutes.
It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great. Say minutes. It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great. Say again?
It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great.
Man, that movie was touching, bro.
No, people feel this.
I don't.
I was like, this shit is boring, son.
But a whole movie with no acting, no words.
That's not amazing, bro.
That's like silent films back in the day.
You really didn't need them to talk.
That's what I'm saying, yo.
We can't even call that a talkie.
Like, that's how old-fashioned this movie is.
This is 100 years ago.
100 years ago.
A little Mexican robot cleaning up the fucking earth, right?
And then this white savior comes down.
Yo, real talk.
That's what the movie is.
White savior comes down, finds a little plant the Mexican found.
I don't even make it to the people.
Takes that back to the white people.
White people are like, oh, there's land.
Real talk.
This is Christopher Columbus, bro.
That's really what this whole movie is about.
The white people are just up in there, just floating around in the sea of the space or whatever it is.
They found some land, went, took that shit over.
Wally fell in love.
We got to take down some of these Wally statues.
Say again?
We got to take down some of these Wally statues.
Yo, bro, you can't take down Wally, dog.
That shit is, dude.
I'm telling you, man.
Y'all got to check out.
I couldn't make it through.
Yo, in the beginning, so fucking boring.
Nah, because you don't know what's going on.
I don't want to not know what's going on i don't want
to not know what's going on for 30 minutes i actually love that that's my favorite part of
the movie you out yo how do you get yo don't fucking sit there and tell him say chapelle
bored you and then you watch you watch wall-e for 30 minutes and still gave it a chance that's why
he bored me that's why he bored me because i knew what was going on my favorite part of the beginning
of the movie is when i don't know what's going on and they stretch that shit out for a long time.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know.
God called me bullshit.
God called me bullshit, bro.
God called me bullshit, bro.
You got a ghost dick or something.
No, it's this.
Dude, that was some weird shit.
No, but in all seriousness, I don't know what the device it is in a movie.
I guarantee there's a name for the device where the beginning just confuses you.
You don't know exactly what's happening.
You know what I'm talking about?
No, man, but 30 minutes?
No, but I know a lot of movies do that.
I love that.
Because I'm like, wait, what the fuck is going on?
What the fuck is happening here?
With the Chabelle thing, I knew what was happening.
Okay.
You're an idiot sometimes.
What?
You're an idiot sometimes.
Why?
I thought the movie was great.
This is me.
Now I'm like, you like Wally?
That shit was trash, yo.
That's what he does.
Cleans fucking trash.
What do you want
alright we're gonna take a break for a second man
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Okay.
Oh, I know.
There we go.
Your guy's girl.
Your guy's girl, the most talented woman on the internet,
B. Simone.
Was it on Patreon I said it?
I think it might be on Patreon.
I said these types cannot have a career in doing this.
You can't have a career just smacking your lips on the fucking Instagram.
Okay?
What is that?
Fucked up?
You can't say that?
Yeah.
Nah, bro.
Oh, okay.
All right.
What is it?
Why?
Is that wrong to say?
Black people with big lips, they might correlate that.
So shut up.
Why are you searching for the outrage?
I'm trying to save you motherfuckers, man.
Fine.
Say everything.
Nah, save me, bro.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You and I said it.
I was like, wait, is that racist?
No, yo, it ain't racist.
It could be easily taken the wrong way.
Nah, it ain't supposed to be doing that.
You know what?
While we're talking about people who take shit the wrong way, she stole her entire book,
right?
Yeah, she took her whole book from someone else.
Real talk.
She did loot that book.
So last week we were talking about her.
I lost this one.
I'm out here defending this bitch.
You were defending this bitch.
What were you saying?
I just said it was based on the book.
I was like, yo, she got, I don't think she's funny.
It was based on the book.
I said, I don't think she's funny, but she done wrote a book she said she's gonna be fine
she's a smart girl yeah i didn't know the book was just stolen from somebody else
because these people don't have it you need a certain amount of talent and a certain amount
of work ethic to get this shit done and you don't do that when you just steal it and she didn't do
work and she ain't got no ethics so so it's done but it was mad fun when meek mill tried to defend what the
fuck is meek mill doing bro meek mill was like white people have been stealing our culture and
stealing us for years and now you're gonna you know come down on this girl for doing that shit
and it's like what was your argument against drake the whole time what was your drake argument
that's you got a ghostwriter. That's hilarious.
You are stealing Drake shit, whatever it is.
It's like, man, you know what's really funny is like,
people don't realize when they go from like hip hop to activism,
no one calls you and your shit in hip hop.
Because hip hop is wrestling, right?
So if you're like, I'm out in the streets, I'm shooting people,
I'm selling drugs, I'm fighting, I'm doing all this shit.
We're like, yeah, do that.
Randy Orton, are you RKO-ing your wife? Sick. on drugs i'm fighting i'm doing all this shit we're like yeah yeah do that yeah randy orton
are you rko and your wife sick nobody's going you didn't really rko her and it was set up and
she was just hanging by the pool and that's really convenient we want to believe the wrestling so
when you go from wrestling to real life motherfuckers are going to call you on your
shit and now they got to make arguments to actually stand up and they're not used to
making arguments to stand up.
They're just going,
all right, what would sound the most fire right here?
I'm woke.
I'm with it.
I'm an activist.
What's the most fire thing to say?
Support all black women,
even if they be stealing.
That shit sounds like bars.
It sounds hot, right?
And the second somebody's like,
wait, what?
What about Drake?
He's a black woman.
You're just going to let him?
Why are you not going to let him steal?
I mean, you don't call him a bitch so many times.
He better be a woman.
Real talk.
He got feelings like a woman.
He got feelings?
He be singing in his shit?
Yo, I'm saying.
He says, I got my eyes on you.
Is that the song?
Yeah, yeah.
I got my eyes on you.
Yeah.
That's a womanly thing to do.
Yo, leave me alone, Drake.
You're a rapist?
Yeah.
yeah that's a womanly thing to do you know leave me alone or a rapist you're either a woman or a predator to say some shit like i got my eyes on you
yo they gotta reshoot that whole reshoot the whole video geez he's just in a bush in a park
yo you think cosby's one eye just went cockeyed So he could look at other bitches That he was finna rape
To always have a
No matter who he's talking to
He's looking at bitches
That he can rape
I've got my eye on you
Yo
Where's Cosby
During all this shit
Fuck Chappelle's special
What Cosby got to say
I told you You should've wore your pants Cosby during all this shit. Fuck Chappelle's special. What Cosby got to say about this?
I told you you should have worn your pants higher.
Oh, my God.
You think he gets raped in jail?
Say what?
Hell no, dog.
Put some respect on Cosby's name, yo.
Fuck out of here, dog.
You don't think he catching him rapes?
No, son.
I know he got his pants high, bro.
Maybe that's why he got his pants high because he knew what happens to him eventually i heard that's how
sagging started it was like some jail culture shit to let people know you were down to get
fucked or something like that no bro it was just because they didn't have the right sizes so it was
one size fits all gear why don't you just tie that rope tighter i bet cosby ain't sagging tie
that rope tight because they've got to take that rope off and make fucking spaghetti out of it or some shit.
You know how they're useful out there?
There's no rope.
Resourceful ass.
Is every inmate like an Eagle Scout?
Son, why?
That motherfucker just a survivor, you know what I mean?
What's up?
Getting married badges.
Bro, it's so true how amazingly prolific.
Like, you know what really goes to show me that motherfuckers
on that show survivor ain't shit and the motherfuckers on that show naked and afraid ain't
shit you right because these jail dudes within a week they're finding ways to make a bunsen burner
on the bottom of the bed and the bed turns into a hot plate and they can turn ramen into fucking
sandwiches and shit they find ways to talk to each other
through the toilets.
They got all this crazy shit
that they could do
and 28 days later,
they got a whole pond full of fish.
Can't catch a goddamn fish.
The real naked afraid
is the prison shower.
That's it.
Yo, son.
Naked and afraid,
the prison shower.
That's a fire episode, son.
I gotta watch that one
oh my god
bro
real talk
why haven't
dudes in prison
found a way
to make a butt plug
that's a good
ass point
what they just
pushed that shit in
they push it further
yeah
you don't think
they clench
trying to stop
the rape
I think dudes do
that's the thing
like
and I'm not trying
to put this out there in the world alright I think dudes do that's the thing like and I'm not trying to put this out there in the world
alright
I'm not trying to put this out
there in the world but
you're
not getting in here bro
you're not getting in here bro
I would have to be unconscious
I'd have to be unconscious and you'd have to use
saliva
how are you going to slide it in?
I don't think
I don't think they're concerned
How are you going to slide it in?
I don't think they're concerned with
Lubrication
Like I don't think
I don't know how it could go in
I don't know how it could go in
I don't know how it could go in
Maybe I'm tighter than y'all
Have you tested the tightness of your asshole?
I put a little finger up in there.
I've wiped and I've gone a little up in there.
If I'm taking out them dingle burrs,
if I'm taking out them dingle burrs in the shower,
I pulled a dingle burr from inside or some toilet paper that got stuck.
What?
I have. You be having gay sex with yourself son that's wild come on docs come on docs i just go to that first nook nook if we buck
exactly dude exactly dude for real i'm just saying you a guy is going to be able to push his whole dick in you, dude?
I'm uncomfortable.
I'm going to be honest.
Yes.
How does it work, dog?
I really don't know.
I don't want to find out.
Too bad.
All right.
Have you ever shit your pants before?
Say again?
Have you ever shit your pants before?
Yep.
On a bicycle.
I'm pretty sure you were holding it and it still got out. So if it can get out,
it can get in.
That's not true.
Yes, it can.
What about Venus fly traps?
What?
Or the Chinese finger traps?
You mean the asshole
with the Chinese finger traps?
Yes, dude.
So it's easy to get in
but you can't get it out?
Yes, the shit can come
straight out
but it's not supposed
to go back in
unless it gets to a certain point and then it goes all the way and i learned that from taking
those pills in my butt those whenever i had the hemorrhoid you're exposing too much pills in my
butt what because it's for hemorrhoids yeah all right you know that was too much remark
who told you put pills in your butt?
Well, it's tough for me to swallow.
What's gayer?
So I feel like I just put it right to the source.
What's gayer?
What's gayer?
I can swallow anything or it's tough for me to swallow, put it in my butt?
Yo, I think mad dudes can swallow, but they front like they can't.
Like, they're like, oh, it's hard for me to swallow pills to swallow pills but it's like nah you just think that's a gateway drug
like you know like like you swallow one of those big ass like brown vitamins
that comes in that like almost opaque jar you know the shits what are they called y'all used
to sell them omega-3s yeah omega-3s they make them mad big
bro what's the point of all that soft gel though it's easy no i'm talking about the hard ones they
feel like they're like wood chips multivitamin is that multivitamin yeah yeah what dude
all right what else we got we got this black ass bachelor
yo what if chapelle's whole thing was about the black bastard
now that uh tune in for it my man look a little corny to me but what's the deal
so for the first time i believe in 19 years of the bachelor history they have their first
black bachelor okay timing the timing seems a little well they had a black bachelorette yeah maybe just took a
while to find one without a kid no but there was a black bachelorette i remember i watched her
season like a year ago right yeah yeah i didn't watch i forget her name she was a beast but then
the show start as the bachelor and then they switched over to yeah sure but like the reason why there hasn't been a black bachelor i think since or bachelorette
since because she had the lowest rated season oh that was like two years ago yeah this shit
gonna be low too was she did she look good yo did they pick like i'm not saying america's racist but
bachelor fans are racist yeah that's a fact like that's the racist part of america that's what fans are
not racist but the higher rate of show on television they're racist yeah all right
bro for real sudden the lowest rated season was this black girl and she was dope she was like a
lawyer she's smart as fuck somebody's like dumb bimbos just pretty pretty you crack i mean in back of the day
back in the day when i crack i mean i've taken down some fucking ducklings
is to me what i crack yeah damn it some girls have gotten a lick off of me bro
you know i mean real talk so proud of it. It's their greatest achievement.
No, I took down some fucking Voldemorts.
I took down some beasts, bro.
They put a multivitamin in your ass?
No, you know, I never had a girl put anything in my ass.
Tongue got licked.
I got that lick.
But yeah, and they're upset at this guy because they wanted this other guy.
Mike.
Yeah, Mike.
I watched that season.
Was he good?
I don't know.
Everybody seemed to like him.
I didn't get it.
So here's the thing,
and this is,
and correct me if I'm wrong.
He's not in a relationship.
Yeah, I know.
This is a trial.
You're going to find out
about the best.
He is in a whole relationship.
Harry Potter.
Our relationships aren't real, son.
That's true.
They're really not real.
That shit is like the wand
he bought at Universal
where it's like yeah
that's a wand they don't have none of the like reality of a one harry potter that's our relationship
just get back in a relationship bro it's a harry i mean you are in a relationship that white girl
stayed in the u.s for two more years you'd know what's going on in the bachelor you don't watch
every episode you come in the room it's on you sit down you leave you know what's going on in the bachelor you don't watch every episode you come in the room it's on you sit down you leave you know what's going on yeah but you remember the dudes that were on i
remember the black dude that was on it obviously respect fine ass so why didn't they pick that dude
so i have a theory about this i have a theory about this too you go first okay uh i think that
they're i think the other guy has more black features.
Ooh.
And this guy is- He looks soft.
This guy is black, but he's racially ambiguous in his face.
So his features don't look specifically black.
Now, the other guy-
I thought he could be a dark-skinned Indian.
Yeah, he could be Indian.
He could be Latino.
You're not exactly sure.
He's kind of like one of those shampoo commercials
where they have the girl, you don't know what race she is is so all races could be like oh head and shoulders work for me right
so i think that that's what they did i think they did a lot of testing the other guy on paper is
actually perfect he's like a wealth manager he was in the air force he's like the ideal american
yeah husband right but i think that his features are more black and i think that these fucking
racist execs or maybe they're not even racist,
but maybe these execs are-
He's catering to the fan base.
Yeah, the racist fans are like,
oh, I'm not going to watch it
because I don't see myself marrying him
or I don't see myself in him.
And this is a real thing.
White girls watch this shit.
I want to say something that has happened to my friends
and I've experienced.
White girls fuck black guys.
They date black guys.
And then they hit their late 20s
and that's the i want to settle down age and then they stop doing it and i've had friends
have gone through with this i'm not gonna shout out the homies but like they've literally experienced
like just banging black black white chicks all the time they love them it's a great thing they
dated relationships etc and then as he's gotten older all of a sudden the age range of girls he's
been fucking hasn't really elevated with his age because the white girls in that age are like uh
i kind of want to settle down with this white guy like i know i'm woke and i'm progressive and we
did all this shit but that was my fun time i want to have a white husband and do my white picket
fence etc and this show is aspirational. This show is who would I marry?
How do I see myself in these person's
shoes? And because
the other guy I think looked a little bit more whatever
traditionally black, whatever fucking bullshit
that means, I think they're like,
no, no, throw a racially ambiguous guy out there.
Maybe they could see themselves with him. That's interesting.
Do you think that's more pressure from
the actual girl or from the family?
Fanbase.
No, family.
Oh.
Like why the girls stop dating black guys when they want to settle down.
I think it's both. I usually think it's pressure from the family.
I think it's family, but I think it's also like culture trickles down.
So I think like that pressure of the family ends up becoming who they are.
Just like racists breed more racists.
Though, devil's advocate.
Yeah.
What is, so this guy that was on The Bachelor before, made
it really far, was really popular, wouldn't it theoretically hold over if he became The
Bachelor?
Like, people already like him, he has cachet, you know him.
Yep.
Doesn't that hold some sway?
100%.
It absolutely could.
And they could be making a huge mistake.
Again, these executives are making these moves just to keep their jobs.
Yeah, I think they're fucking up.
Yeah, and I think they could be fucking up because they could be,
and I could be, misinterpreting how supportive they would be
towards that other guy.
Yeah.
You know?
So I think there's a couple things.
I think that's probably true.
But this dude had – so the way The Bachelor works, I guess,
is there's a community that happens once you're in the shit.
Yeah.
Like you become a part of – like there's greater zeitgeist.
Yeah.
So he was on the football team with another guy that was supposed to win so like this dude tyler cameron
was supposed to win he was like the favorite and then he lost and this dude was like his best friend
like off the show and i fucked up yo yeah that's for real so he got this cosign from the guy that
was supposed to win and then on top of that the girl that that girl hannah brown said the n-word on on a live yeah and then got a bunch of heat for like you rapped along to a song
instead of them yeah yeah that's important to clarify yeah but like got a ton of heat from
like the bachelor fan base and all these people going crazy this is like before george floyd even
like two weeks and then as a result of all like the bachelor heat black lives matter all that
shit they were like all right we have to pick a black dude and i don't think they necessarily wanted someone with
that's already been on the show that has like baggage that like goes along with being on the
show but michael doesn't have baggage apparently apparently everybody loved him he got far and he
was like super enjoying super like i i literally think like on the executive level these shits
because they have no talent these execs they
just run everything through focus focus group focus group and they focus grouped michael i'm
sure and then they focus group this guy and they're like who would you see yourself with
who do you see yourself in and then all the guys that watch are like yeah probably relate more to
that guy because literally his face is just similar looking in shape and if the audience
that watches it is 80 white or 90 with some absurd
amount white i think that they're like okay let's just go with this guy and it could be wrong what
did you mean he's supposed to win like this it's rigged already no no but like she literally picked
a guy who like broke up with a girl in the middle of the show that he was dating throughout the show
and he there's she has text messages of him being like yo i gotta do this is good for my career that guy won
and then this other guy started fucking giselle or something like that after not giselle not giselle
who's the hajia hadid or something like that like he he's running through bitches now he's like a
guy she started following him off of the show they went on dates like how do you get on a bachelor who fucked who am i white guy tyler c yeah with gia hadid who's the one who's the one that's with
fine ass zayn mullick motherfucker fine dog gg hadid gg hadid yeah she pregnant right now yeah
yeah i think they were like on again off again or something they like went out on dates there's like
pictures my girl keeping me posted.
Thank God she settled down with fine ass Zayn.
You know what I mean?
Good for you, Gigi.
Is he Indian?
Hey, half.
I'll take it.
That's a come up.
But she's probably Indian too or something like that.
She's Muzi, I think.
She's half Muslim, I think.
Hadid.
Or Hadid.
Yeah.
Nah, but just like to make up for all the years they didn't have black people, he should start with one and end with 30.
He should start with one. Yeah, start with one girl and start with one and end with 30. He should start with one.
Yeah,
start with one girl
and end with all 30.
Like you got to make up
for all the years
that we didn't have.
Right.
Yeah.
Is there anything
that would look worse
for black men
than cheating on 30
on their own?
At the end of the show,
like that's how it ends?
I mean,
you want to be authentic.
Yo, while we're talking about rape can you tell us about the uh can you tell us about the uh can you tell yo can you tell us about the um uncle uh what's it rush uh russell simmons
documentary can you break that down apparently there's this russell simmons documentary can you break that down apparently there's this russell simmons
documentary that like mad girls are coming out talking about him and his defense is uh
i was fucking way finer girls like literally apparently his defense is is is now i was
fucking models back then like if you saw the pussy house game back then
it's pretty hilarious so he's like tone deaf in terms of just like with so so regular people
literally deaf jam oh my god but yeah so hbo has some documentary it was
is that why he calls it deaf jam because he's deaf and then he just jams he's deaf to the nose
he's been telling us this whole time who names a music label bro go on go on um so hilarious is i didn't hear him i didn't
no just a quick story hbo had a deal here they had a documentary about russell simmons and all
the women that allege he like were misconduct or rape things of that nature um he denies everything the only
one he has compassion for just one girl in the whole thing and he's like oh yeah i can understand
how she felt like scared in that moment because like when she got in my car and then the doors
locked and she thought she was in danger and i was like but this is the 90s you know like you
get in cars and the doors just automatically lock so i can see how she might have misconstrued that
time in the car or whatever but it's like out of all the girls making these accusations he's only he
only cares about one single girl also he's been in thailand yeah where you can't uh what's it called
like detain somebody detain somebody and you know what he's been oh uh extradite yeah you can't
extradite and you know what he's been doing while he's in thailand fucking these trannies no huh yoga he'd been talking about yoga for 20 years and i didn't
believe that shit ever i'm starting to believe there's a correlation between rape and yoga
it's not just indians guys yo that's how india is gonna take over the
oh that's your defense against the chinese i know that's what he was saying that they would
go rape him but think about it what did america just reasonably recently get and appropriate from
india yoga yoga right what did america recently start doing a lot
rape
i think
hold on now hold on now think about it right me too movement pops up
all these rapes were happening what the 80s 90s 2000s when does yoga get here 80s
pops up 90s 2000s i think y'all imported that rape
look man i'm not gonna i can't support you you know i mean yeah i'm not gonna you you run with
this i want you to do you okay i just can't be Indian and then be like, you're right.
So you do you.
I'm just saying.
And I won't disprove anything, but you go.
I'm just saying there's a lot of things here, right?
Hey, Al, you want to speak to one?
What's the first position?
Downward dog?
That's actually a good point.
Right?
And then they give you a position that makes it look like you're fighting back.
Warrior one.
Right? And then, oh, that doesn't work.
Warrior two.
You know what I mean?
Child's pose.
And then when you're in the shower and just kind of wash it all off.
Child's pose.
Bro.
It's not yoga, dude.
It's a complete rape cycle.
Yeah. Beginning to end dude i know you can't get on board with this i can't but hey i'm not not i'm not disproving it so what do you think happens
with him do you think he ever comes back like what do you think this is all yeah another another
part i forgot to mention so he said like oh he doesn't even care about the media doesn't care
about people public opinion he's't care about public opinion.
He only cares about what his daughters think.
And so to prove to his daughters that he's telling the truth,
he took nine lie detector tests.
Does that sound like a person who's just trying to prove his innocence
or who's practicing how to pass a lie detector test?
Oh, that's great.
I took one PSAT dog
this motherfucker took nine
like real talk
nine though
probably failed the first eight
run that shit back
when do you take nine at anything if you do it right
the first time
name one thing you repeat nine times
if you're doing it right.
Oh, fuck.
And he said this publicly
in an interview
like he was doing something good.
You know what that feels like?
You know when you're
at the carnival game
and you try to throw
the little ring
on the fucking milk bottle?
You just keep telling me
I run it back, yo.
No, I got it.
I didn't rape him
all this time.
Oh, yo.
That's wild, though.
What'd you think, Mark?
Do you believe the accusers more considering that like
they're coming out against the prominent black men like this week yo yeah but this kind of came
out a long time ago oh really yeah so why is all the news breaking now just because uh the
documentary just dropped probably yo hbo's wild for dropping that documentary right now they don't
give a fuck yo i think they tried to hide it say what i think they tried to hide it because they put on hbo max
yeah that new shit that nobody had oh yeah okay how is that different than hbo go and hbo whatever
i did they're really dropping the ball on this one nobody knows are bro and that's what they
thought was going to get everybody to sign up yeah during the fucking black lives matter protest i
mean they're fucking up left and right.
Who are they trying to get?
Yo, Peter, what's his name?
Gotta go, yo.
Who's Peter what?
Peter Nielsen.
Oh, the dude
that I threw the bone to?
The dude I threw the scraps to?
Yeah.
When I let him have the scraps, bro.
What, bro?
You gotta let Peter Nielsen
get them scraps, bro.
You made barbecue, dog.
That's it, dog it you know what's interesting
is scraps
scraps is what she's making
on unemployment right now
she didn't get that
furlough
she probably had to
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for some money
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with a massive contract
yeah you let
you let Mayweather go
you let boxing go
yeah basically
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um what else we got man what else happened keep it in sports uh so oh yo actually i have an
argument yeah like so the kairi thing oh it's so heavy today but the kairi thing's interesting did
you hear about the kairi yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah what a surprise kairi doesn't want to play
basketball hey you know what this is this is kairi trying to be woke to fuck
more white girls i know this guy i see through his hustle i see through you kairi you don't think
it's real you don't think it's legit what a stupid fucking argument go go go go make your oh we can't
affect social change if we play you know who wants to play lebron james you know who's done a lot more
for social change than you?
LeBron James.
Great argument.
LeBron is always on the front line
speaking whenever he got to speak.
Kyrie talking about fucking three eyes
the whole past year.
Not playing,
complaining about not being
the fucking alpha
like he wants to be.
Where were you on social issues
this whole time?
Great point.
Now your solution
is to stay silent
and do nothing
and that's how you affect
social change.
Great point. I think that's how you affect social change. Great point.
I think that's a great point.
I actually feel.
Isn't it funny how we switch on the Chappelle position and this position?
Yeah.
You're like, Chappelle is going to let the streets talk.
And I'm like, yeah.
And then I'm like, Kyrie is going to let the streets talk.
And you're like, yeah.
And I think we actually both agree which is like like my issue is
that chapelle's was like yo i'm gonna let the streets talk and then he put out the special
where he's talking but uh and uh i'm sure you probably feel a similar way with kairi right is
but uh so here's my thinking about it as much as i want fucking basketball dog as much as i want a sport
right we're in a very unique time in history where there can be a singular focus about one cause
the entire world is concerned about black lives right and regardless if you want to accept this
or not a major part of that is there's not a lot else going on i know that sounds like a
fucked up thing does that sound fucked up no that's a valid point it's a valid point there's not a lot else going on. I know that sounds like a fucked up thing. Does that sound fucked up to say? No, that's a valid point.
No, there's not.
It's a valid point.
There's not a lot going on.
So when there's not a lot going on,
you can focus on something.
When you don't,
listen, there's so many people.
I know so many white people are like,
listen, I don't want anything bad to happen to black people.
I want them to have equality.
Yo, there's a march.
I got to take my kids to soccer practice, man.
Like I want to be there,
but I got to take,
my wife wife I promise
there's so many other things
that you were gonna do
because we all have lives dog
we all have fucking lives
and right now
there's nothing else to do
the one activity
you're allowed to do
even the fucking CDC
as bullshit as they are
we're like yo
you can do this
you can go outside
you can march
you can protest
there's a singular focus
on this issue
the second other things
start opening
right yo to your point Tiger King was enough to distract us from racism Tiger King There's a singular focus on this issue. The second other things start opening, right?
Yo, to your point, Tiger King was enough to distract us from racism.
Tiger King.
The second these other things start opening, you're going to give us a thing to be distracted about.
Especially you're going to open almost right into the playoffs.
Yeah.
So now are we going to watch LeBron play the fucking Celtics in the finals?
Or are we going to go to this protest?
What are we going to do?
So do I think Kyrie's actions have, for the most of his career,
publicly been selfish?
Just publicly.
I can't say what he does with his private life.
Publicly, have they been selfish?
Yes.
Yes.
So it's really hard to hear this from Kyrie and not assume selfishness,
which I think is what you're doing.
I think it's 100% right. I'll give Chappelle. You got leeway with me. You are in credibility. Kyrie has not assume selfishness, which I think is what you're doing. I think it's 100% right.
And that's the leeway I'll give Chappelle.
You got leeway with me.
You are in credibility.
Kyrie has not.
Well, it hasn't, right?
But the thing that flipped me was not Kyrie.
It was Lou Williams.
Okay.
And I believe Lou
because that's a real motherfucker.
Who is the guy?
There's a story that in Philly,
somebody was going to carjack Lou Williams
and then recognize
it was Lou
and Lou did so much
in the community
that he was like
nah man you're good
and you know what he did
he said
I'm gonna take you
to get some McDonald's bro
cause the guy just
wanted food to eat
incredible
so it's like
Lou was like
we have the ability
to focus on this
right now
let's do it
now
the NBA said
I think they're gonna give
500 million dollars
if they start the season
to the cause
yeah right now I actually think what is more valuable than money Let's do it. Now, the NBA said I think they're going to give $500 million if they start the season to the cause.
Yeah.
Right now, I actually think what is more valuable than money is attention.
Yeah.
So I really believe, and I've told this to my friends in the fucking league, and I'm like, yo, honestly, the best thing for you all to do is cancel this season and put all the focus on this. But before you cancel it, make sure there are specific demands that you want met
i think if they ask for a specific thing i don't care what the fuck it is it you can end chokeholds
body cameras it could be reallocate the police but a specific thing who owns these teams akash
billionaires when billionaires get affected by things shit starts to change that's
true dog we talked about this last week economic sanction is the only peaceful way to make any
change because that economic sanction is violent yeah we were talking about this we're gonna do
this on a piece in a society that values money over human life, and keep in mind George Floyd was killed over a fake $20 bill.
So that's money.
They were willing to kill this motherfucker over a fake $20 bill.
In a society that values money over human life, people do not understand acts of violence towards humans as much as they understand acts of violence towards money.
That's why rioting was effective,
because they're coming for the money.
And when you cancel the season,
you come for the billionaire's pockets,
the most powerful, influential people.
You get that shit.
All of a sudden, they get wind of that,
and they're going to go,
I'm going to lose how many hundred million dollars this year?
What?
Nah.
That's a good point.
I'm calling up my governor.
I'm calling up my senator.
I'm calling up the police chief.
You activate those motherfuckers, you're going to get some real change.
And the only way you do that is you come for their fucking pockets.
And the only way you do that is you cancel the season.
Or you say, we're not starting the season until we get this specific demand met.
And don't have to be the end all be all.
It has to be something.
Use your leverage while you got it.'s a good point that's the that's
what i'll say very rare i agree with kairi on anything that's a good point no you got me flip
me make sense al yeah and i agree with you 100 mark i hope they hold out but they can't it's
been decided already right so that's the thing that's the thing about lebron i don't think
lebron wants to hold out and lebron wants his legacy he wants his ring he wants his ring getting old he's got a good shot
this year and this is an interesting time where it's like lebron has done so many amazing things
this is where someone like what's the fat black dude that's a sellout what's the name uh whitlock
whitlock this is where you criticize uh leron. Not when he's fucking opening schools.
Not when he's doing this amazing stuff for the community.
You criticize him where it's like,
we didn't hear you talk about anything with China
because you didn't want to fuck up the bag,
which is reasonable because you can do so much with the bag.
You've been so generous with your bag.
And now there's a situation where there is an argument to be made
that the best thing to do is use your political leverage right now with the NBA and with these billionaires to actually make change and not start the league so they can pad their pockets with what little time they got left.
That's where some might say, yo, that's where your voice should go.
If LeBron sat out the playoffs, that would put him in another echelon of athlete, too.
That puts him in the Muhammad Ali category.
That's Ali.
Yeah.
And that's the only other guy in that category that's that great and was willing to sit out for something
he believed in and who needs the money less who needs it like if lou williams is willing to go
i don't need my check this year fam yeah no but it's not i don't think it's the money it's his
body lebron is doing it for his because he's older and he wants a ring oh no 100 100 i
understand that but like he can't admit that yeah right like he can't go well i only got two more
good years left he gotta say no we can use this money and help the communities and he might really
believe that and there's an argument for that please poke holes if you see no i'm just wondering
is it possible that the players don't have as much leverage as we think?
Like, is it possible that they're contractually obligated?
Like, if they sit out,
they lose all their money.
Adam Silver's also said, like,
Anybody who wants to sit out
is fine to sit out.
If you're not in breach of contract,
sit out.
He's been the most supportive.
Like,
I know that,
look,
say what you want about Adam Silver,
he's a pushover,
this, that, the other.
You cannot,
as a player, not, you cannot think that this guy doesn't have your back, bro.
Yeah.
He has been so fucking supportive for this.
Even throughout this whole process, the fact that he's like, I recognize if we lives to show that we can be selfish, but also try to push forward the agenda that you're doing.
Yeah.
So why doesn't he just stop the season?
Because he's got to answer to the.
He does a good job of because the commissioner works for the owners.
That's what people always say about Goodell.
You guys misunderstand.
Goodell doesn't work for the players.
He works for the owners.
Silver does a good job of working for the players and still keeping the players, working
for the owners and still keeping the players interest in mind.
So he will work for the owners.
Hey, let's do this season.
We'll make a lot of money.
Players, if you're not in breach of contract and you need to sit out, you feel like you
want to sit out, go ahead.
And if LeBron sat out, just LeBron, the season might not happen.
And that would be massive.
Patrick Beverly said that shit he's like
if lebron want to play we play and i clowned him for that i was like of course if lebron want to
play we play that's how this shit works if schultz wants to change the time of the podcast that's
what we're gonna do if charlamagne wants to change it on him that's what the fuck you're
gonna do that's the world but that's a good point that if lebron says we're going to sit, shit could change.
And I think it's, and don't sit without getting something out of sitting.
Yes.
Yes.
You know, it's like you go, listen, we are not playing unless,
fuck this bubble shit in Orlando.
Fuck the COVID this and the Corona that and got to swab everybody every day.
Fuck all that.
Don't sit unless a demand is met.
What is a specific demand that you can actually change?
Make it.
Yeah.
What's up?
I'm just wondering,
is there a situation where the owners can be like,
no, we can't affect police reform?
Yeah, they can.
And they're like,
you're sitting out,
you're disrupting the league,
you're affecting Americans.
But what can us as owners do? Use your political political leverage you put money in every one of these politicians you got political leverage right every single election you are
putting money in every candidate's pocket and you do that so that you use it now it's time to use it
exact change so i'll be honest and i don't know the most of it so i'm just going to talk about
it like i regularly do but like they got rid
of undercover cops or at least they're saying they're getting rid of
undercover cops in New York. Yeah Al I thought you might be able to
I have not heard about this. So they just released
toward the bottom that they're getting rid of
the undercover cop unit and then it made me start
thinking the fuck do we have
undercover cops for?
Someone make the argument for undercover
cops. Because you
have a better chance of infiltrating and noticing crime as opposed to...
It ain't your job.
Are you talking about the anti-crime unit?
Yeah.
Yeah.
They call it that.
See, I thought you might know.
But let's break this down.
Why did we ever have undercover cops?
That, to me, is the legal closest thing to entrapment.
You know what entrapment is, right?
to me is the legal closest thing to entrapment you know what entrapment is right it's like where you kind of manipulate someone into breaking the law yeah right uh give me a good example of entrapment
uh i try to sell you drugs and then you buy them and then i get i clip you for buying the drugs
i'm like no no no just get a go ahead just come on you leave a car with the keys in it and i used
to work oh that's right they would do that they'd leave cars in the keys with the keys in it. And I used to work. Oh, that's right. They would do that. They'd leave cars with the keys in it in the fucking hood.
And when the motherfucker take the car, they're like, oh, you stole a car.
So I used to work in the courts.
I would say 80% of the drug cases that were brought up, they're called buy and bust, which is an undercover cop goes, tries to buy drugs.
The moment they sell the money's exchanged for the drugs, boom,
four other guys come rushing in and arrest that person.
Like almost 80% of the drug cases
were buy and bust cases.
And that was undercover cops.
So it's like,
if that's how they're getting
drug deals off the streets,
how else can you do it?
I think,
I think their way,
what they're talking about is not
just the random person
who acts as an undercover for a drug deal.
I think the undercovers that you see walking around with the sweatbands on their arm, that's what you can tell if it's an undercover.
They got the sweatband on their arm.
And the sweatband changes colors every day, and that's how there's no friendly fire.
So it's like sometimes you see an orange sweatband.
You see a dude in a regular ass cargo fucking pant outfit, the same like police sneakers and like the Yankee fitted, but they always have a sweatband on one arm.
Yeah, I've heard that.
And if you see that,
that's how you know it.
Now, I think those dudes
who are just walking around,
you know the dude
who would stand by the turnstile?
Yeah.
Waiting to give you a ticket
for jumping his turnstile?
Yeah.
It's just like,
wear the fucking outfit.
Like, why are you not wearing the outfit?
Wear the outfit.
Yeah, because if you wear the outfit,
then they won't do the crime
right in front of you.
Exactly.
So the crime is still stopped.
But now someone who might need you and need your help
at least sees you and they can go to you.
So you deter, right?
So in a way, you could deter less crime.
And now it just feels like we're being watched every second.
You know, like we all hate those cameras, right?
Those cameras that like give you a ticket for speeding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like we hate them because you're just being,
we're being watched the whole fucking time.
You create a police state like that.
Yeah.
That's some low key.
Now, listen.
Please look up what the arguments are.
The job isn't necessarily to eliminate crime.
It is to arrest people.
Yeah.
That's what it seems like if you're doing the anti-crime.
Yo, the job is to protect us.
The actual anti-crime is-
Not arrest us.
The actual anti-crime is a guy in a police uniform.
That's anti-crime. There's no crimecrime is a guy in a police uniform that's anti-crime there's no crime
happening when you see a police uniform yeah this is just you do the crime and then we arrest you
yeah i gotta i gotta learn more can you look up what the point of it is mark are you looking it up
so just piecing it together really quick like basically on like covert operations were used a
lot during war yeah so like historically like you send in spies to go like chill with the enemies
get intel
send it back and then if you need to blow that whole shit up you can like start killing people
from the inside so when we start the war on drugs it's basically like a operation to try to infiltrate
drug communities and try to like bust the people slinging drugs like it's a war tactic like it's a
war so like it starts on like the 60s when like well i mean it's existed prior to that existed like in london with like uh all like that what is it the ms5 or whatever what's the british
uh mi6 mi6 yeah like so it started there but like basically it's a war tactic kind of used
during the war on drugs and like to try to like get criminals out of crime ridden communities
why using war tactics against your own people they call it a war on drugs war on
poverty all that shit i'm telling you these practices it's fucked up here's the thing i
get very concerned people and you don't even gas fucking war criminals yeah i get very concerned
when america like america is not good at finishing wars. Right?
Like we've been in war constantly for like the last, what, 20 years, 30 years?
Yeah.
Right?
I don't want a war on drugs.
To me, a war on drugs is, oh, that's going on forever.
I don't want a war on drugs from an American standpoint.
I want some shit that we finish.
What's something that Americans do and then it's done?
You know? The war on poverty.
I don't like this idea of war.
How do you kill poverty?
Like, stop using that terminology.
It doesn't even make sense.
I think that undercover shit is low-key absurd, bro.
Like, I think it should be illegal that police officers are walking around not looking like police officers.
Of course, we're going to do a little fucked up.
Of course, we're going to jay jaywalk like this is part of life we don't want to live in like some uh what
is it like russian police state where like you have to be worried about your neighbor snitching
on you every second nah bro i mean not to mention like the war on drugs is effectively just like a
war on poor people yes i mean like it's poor people like and that was gonna be my question
about the anti-crime unit do they tend to go to poor areas they tend to be in poor black areas
poor latino areas oh yeah yeah they go to the areas where there's like poor people because
poor people are committing crime and in america poor people are typically black like it's the
poor communities that are black so it's basically a war on black people i mean and then not to
mention there's the cia involvement in like trafficking drugs into
that's another thing it's like how dare you put drugs into the community and then say there's a
war on drugs don't get me started on this shit for so long don't get me started on this shit
that shit is declassified too it's not even a conspiracy if you look at like cia contra cocaine
trafficking yeah like they were just like in at least uh implicitly involved in like
bringing drugs into the poor community and my my girl's family friend was one of the dudes who flew
the plane really wow he was one of the dudes who flew the plane and he carried around every day
his light a life a note from the president or it was like from the cia that gave him permission for what he did
and one time he got picked up by the police and he got sent to jail and for the you were
trafficking drugs this at the other he just said call the lawyer the lawyer came in and he said do
you have the note and hand that motherfucker the note is this the tom cruise movie nah different
guy tom cruise's uh movie was something that's what i thought at first i was
like yo you know tom cruise still a lot but um because the tom cruise that guy got right i think
he got murked i think he was doing it through like in ohio or some shit like that uh gives him
the note um they go to him is this the only copy, by the way? He goes, no, plenty of copies.
They let him walk.
Still out today.
Wow.
So that shit was real.
And this is why they did it.
Because you go to Nicaragua, because there's obviously that conflict right there.
It was like the Contras and the Sandinistas, right?
Now you're like, all right, here's some guns.
But we need payment for guns.
Well, Nicaragua ain't got no money.
So what you going to pay us in?
What you going to pay us in? What you gonna pay us in?
Yeah.
Cocaine.
Drugs, right?
Now I got drugs.
Fuck do I do with the drugs?
I got to sell it somewhere, right?
Yeah.
That was actually,
I saw the 13th of every book.
That was my one critique
is they didn't mention that.
That's a declassified thing
that the whole point is
they're locking up black people because that's
essentially free labor slave labor and why wouldn't you mention they also pump the drugs
into the black community and then threaten more harshly for crack than they do cocaine
like why wouldn't you why would you neglect that's a declassified file i heard that 10 15 years ago
why don't you put that in the doc because my only like that's weird and i don't think it's a bad i
think it's a good documentary.
Everybody should watch it.
But I was like,
that would have really hammered the point home,
right?
Anyway.
Yeah.
What do you think would be the government's incentive
to try to disrupt black communities?
Like just to keep poor people down,
you think?
Or like to try to use race as a way
to like get people to fight?
That was also what I was,
because it seemed like.
And then like,
I don't think it's just.
Racist practices and them not caring about black people you think they targeted black people
specifically yeah because they're racist less people care about black people i think they
might have thought the lives they can get away with it i think there's a lot of different things
going on right there's like an expand there's so many different layers to it one is an expanding
police budget that needs to be justified and justify that with
arrests and what are the easiest arrests that you're going to get you're going to go into poor
neighborhoods where these people one are not going to be able to fight the crimes like a rich person
would right and two where they're going to be involved in more illegal activity because they're
going to be doing more illegal things to make ends meet it's just the reality of the matter
you might fucking steal cable none of my rich friends stole cable yeah my poor friends would find a little black box and hook some shit up do
whatever it is yeah um that was the shit that was the shit back in the day so yeah so i think but i
think there's a bunch of different fucking things you know um yeah you know i think that's just like
one facet of it of course yeah you could have the poor people fighting. And we were talking about this yesterday.
But you could create that kind of class dynamic.
You could control the lower class by having them bicker amongst themselves.
Yeah.
I mean, who are the most racist people, right?
Yeah, poor people.
Poor people, right?
And of course, because they've been kind of fed that information to justify it.
So you have them fight amongst themselves because, God forbid, they come together.
Right?
They come together. That's a powerful amount of people you make a lot of change those people
come together i mean that's what mlk was saying right he was gonna do the poor person's march
and they got him to fuck out of here second he was like yo we gotta help poor people second
martin luther king was like yo we gotta help poor people they were like what yeah when it wasn't you
got a nightmare you ain't got no dreams When it wasn't just about black people,
it was like, no, it's poor people. And Vietnam too.
He was like vehemently opposed to Vietnam
and they fucking murdered him.
Adios.
So yeah, there's certain agendas.
You know what I mean?
I thought in terms of that,
I thought like, again,
based on what I saw on 13th,
it was just like,
there's that little thing,
no slavery unless of course
there's criminals or whatever.
I think they were just thinking like, all right, well, we need slaves.
These are already people that we kind of look at like that.
If we're going to have slaves, that's the easiest person to compartmentalize is like
a group of people I've already done that to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe.
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would you go to the Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma?
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Your safety was intact.
Yes.
Just to experience it.
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yes boom yeah i would want to go see and experience any historical event that's like
important like regardless of how good or bad it is but why is this an important historical event
you haven't got because what's trump getting elected with history trump and we're talking
about one specific well this one specifically because all the stuff around it with like
juneteenth tul Tulsa, Oklahoma,
all that shit.
I mean, this is, I agree with you.
He moved the date because he's pussy.
Right.
Keep going.
But like, I would go to-
I think that was the intention the whole time.
I think he used that as a way to get buzz for it and then jumped the next date.
You're giving him an out.
That shit is pussy.
Keep the date.
I give it up to their marketing.
I think their marketing is on point.
And also, I think it's like it's really
funny the way people reacted to the juneteenth thing because like if he was somebody if he was
a politician that you thought was really like respectful of black people and i cared about
black people doing on juneteenth you'd be like yo how woke is he he's doing it on the day slavery
ended he's going to tulsa oklahoma no no i. So it's like he's doing it in this place where Black Wall Street was burned down.
Like this guy is for us.
But the fact that everybody's like he's racist, it looks as like it's an antagonistic act.
Does that make sense?
So you put whatever your views of Trump are onto the situation instead of just going,
this is what it is.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Like if Obama did it?
You'd be like, yo, he's the wokest, blackest dude ever. He would do this. This is what it is. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like if Obama did it? You'd be like, yo, he's the wokest, blackest dude ever.
He would do this.
This is our president.
But since Trump does it, it's like he hates us.
Yet it's the exact same action.
Yeah.
So then why would he move the date?
But no, but of course you.
If his intentions are good, then don't move the date.
It is true.
He was like, yo, I didn't know, but there was this thing called Juneteenth.
And this thing did happen in Tulsa.
Like, he knew, and he was trying to rile up his base.
I think that's what it was.
I think that it was used.
I bet you they rented the shit for both days.
I don't think his intention was completely coincidental.
Let's go to Tulsa on Juneteenth.
I think he wanted to rebuild Black Wall Street.
I think that's his goal.
Make Black Wall Street great again.
Real talk.
Not build a wall. Build a real talk not build the walls bro build
a wall he loves yeah but i would go and also go to biden's situation because it's like the same
way i look at news i'll watch cnn for a little bit and then i'll watch fox news what if you go
to what if when you go to box said this to me yesterday he goes he goes yo he goes he goes
because i'm basically i'm saying this i'm
like yo i want to go to i was like yo i want to go to i want to witness it i think it'd be cool
to witness it you know uh he goes yo but we got to go to we got to go to biden's too or would you
go to biden's too are you interested in going to biden's too and i go nothing would make me happier
than to listen to that old man babble in front of 20 000 people
and when i say that i'm describing both of them but biden's gonna say crazy shit and trump is
gonna say crazy shit i absolutely would love to go experience both of them it is an interesting
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