Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Was Chappelle’s Special THAT Special?

Episode Date: June 16, 2020

This week Andrew Schulz, Akaash Singh, AlexxMedia and Mark Gagnon discuss if the NBA players should sit out for BLM, was Chappelle's special that special, the first Black Bachelor and how racist the f...ans of The Bachelor are, if we would go to a Trump rally, does yoga cause rape and much more. INDULGE! Want an extra episode a week? Join the Flagrant Army www.Patreon.com/FLAGRANT2

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Starting point is 00:00:00 all right what's up what's up everybody yo akash is tight man what's up china yo what's up akash angry at china this is not about corona apparently there's beef on the china india border for any new listeners um akash is half chinese half indian you know he's really torn apart on this one bro he's torn apart dog so so tell me what you're going through right now as a half chinese half indian man don't do that to me yo that to me yo no so akash came in here pure blood out this bitch this how you know he knows we don't give a fuck about what's happening on the india china border he didn't even put that on the episode notes he was gonna write it on the top of the notes. He was going to write it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Here's some interesting stories. Instead, he was like, nah, put in what Patrick Beverly said about the truck. I'm not doing this to myself. Mark just came in on Black Lives Matter time. I like you. Support the movement. Mark just came in on Black Lives Matter time. I love you. Support the movement, Mark. Show of solidarity, bro. Mark out here, show of solidarity.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Alex Media. All right. So, okay, Akash, break down to the people and try to make it interesting. I just read about this on the way in. Message us at what point you turn off the podcast as Akash describes what's happening at the China-India... Akash, tight, tight.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Akash, really tight. Akash, really tight. All right, go, go, go. You know why I'm tight? I'm going to be interested. I'm going to be interested. You know why I'm tight? You know what side I'm on.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You know why I'm tight? Who? You fucked it up, yo. What is it? It's Namaste. What are you giving Chinese sounds for? Yeah, that's what I did.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I gave the Chinese sounds. But you did the Indian. You think Chinese people don't do this? They bow, son. Like the little subservient assholes they are. How do you think they hit the fucking cymbals, bro? Here's why I'm upset. You think Chinese people don't go like that?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Here's why I'm upset. Because you think I know why they're fighting. They created that. You think you invented the put your hands together? Hell yeah, yo. Man, come on, bro. That's Chinese people. Put your hands together, yo.
Starting point is 00:02:12 How do you think they bind their feet? They make them put their hands and feet together. And then they bind their shit. That's only the feet, yo. No, real talk. And even that's Indian. That's some yoga shit. Are Chinese people just ripping off everything Indian?
Starting point is 00:02:26 That's probably what this is about. Yo! Oh, shit. Oh, my God. They're about to rip off your land in a little bit. Dude, you think they're about to appropriate your whole country? Son, they're trying. Son, hold on.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Okay, okay. Breakdown, breakdown. We're going to interrupt you every few seconds, but try to break down what's going on. Here's the thing. I don't know why they're fighting. I just know on the border there were some deaths. Uh-huh. And if everybody's not on India's side, I'm going to be fucking livid.
Starting point is 00:02:50 So you expect us to side with India in a war against China? I expect anybody to side with whoever's warring against China. Why? Because Corona! What about it? That's them! They did it? Hell yeah, they did it.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Whether intentionally or not, and I'm going to be honest, I think intentionally, they did that shit. Fuck them. You know who you need to send there to the border? That motherfucker from How Can She Slop? Son, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Fuck China. They out. Let's get them out. You think we should get them out? We gotta. How are we going to get them out? There's gotta be some kind of economic sanction or something. I've been saying this before,
Starting point is 00:03:30 Annie, this, this tension. They gotta be, they can't just start a fucking, uh, pandemic. And then we all act like they didn't.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yo, what? Yo, yo, just go ahead and assume. No, this is actually an interesting thing because, because I heard that,
Starting point is 00:03:43 whatever, there's like long-term strategies that they have. China? In place. I 100% believe that. Yeah, because apparently all them koi fish turn into Chinese soldiers. I don't know if you knew that. No, this is true.
Starting point is 00:03:56 In all the Hilton hotels, they got them little ponds. Yeah. And they're waiting. And right at the right time, it's going to be a gong. And they all turn into Chinese soldiers. They've been working on this shit since Ninja Turtles, yo yo they've been trying to train these little motherfuckers to fight for him that's what foot soldiers are yo fucking sushi dinners pop up for real you got to figure out how you're gonna take advantage though how you guys are gonna fight because
Starting point is 00:04:19 we're gonna have your back okay hey everybody But what are you guys going to use to fight them? Fucking, hey. Like, what do Indians have? What's your weapon? Like, what is the Indian weapon? Get out of here. The Indian weapon is people, yo. No, but you, yeah, it's people, but they also got people.
Starting point is 00:04:40 You guys need a weapon. No, we got more people. No, you don't. Oh, they might come with the bamboo sticks, though. We got more people for sure. The bamboo sticks that they would just smack them motherfuckers on the street to go back inside that's your weapon sticks indians need a real weapon bro what is your weapon i don't know what your weapon you're saying that you're gonna use use Oh my God, we need weapons
Starting point is 00:05:05 against Chinese people? What the fuck are we talking about? Chinese people got karate. They got martial arts. Get the fuck out of here, karate. They got smoke bombs. Karate is only effective
Starting point is 00:05:14 when black people learn it. Say again? Karate is only effective when black people learn it. Black people and Bruce Lee. Let me take that in. That is interesting. Bruce Leroy will fuck everybody up.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yo, Bruce Lee versus Bruce Leroy? Who everybody yo bruce lee versus bruce leroy who do you think got that bruce leroy dog ain't even a question yo were there any black guys in street fighter the video game yeah uh not ballrog ballrog that don't count because ballrog is in a later version of street fighter the initial he's in the initial the black black dude. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Who's the black guy in Street? Are you talking about the Brazilian, Blanca? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Son. No, not that guy. The fucking monster.
Starting point is 00:05:49 No, no, no. What are you talking about? Not that guy. The other black guy. He had the fuck. He looked like Mr. T. Oh, Sagat? No.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Come on, son. Hold on. What? Sagat was Thai. Sagat was Thai, dude. What's his name? There were no black guys in Street Fighter? You fucking sagat was thai dude what's his name there were no black guys in street fighter you fucking sagat yeah dude how are there no black guys there's not like some guys too the
Starting point is 00:06:12 jamaican fighter dj see there was no black guys in street fighter 2 that was like a later street fighter 2 because street fighter 2 the first one yeah that's japanese but these think about let me see if we could get all these characters. Ryu, Ken, Blanca. Zangief. Zangief, Dhalsim. How do you not do Dhalsim? Vega, Sagat, M. Bison, Chung Li, Guile. I'm fucking impressed right now.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Yeah, I am impressed. Yeah, so y'all know spells. I know Street Fighter, you fucking. I know Spells. I know Street Fighter. You fucking. Was that beeped? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Y'all can guess. No, but for real. Okay. Did I miss anybody? They had no black people in Street Fighter. Son, I think DJ was in the original. DJ was not in the original. I don't even know what the fuck DJ looks like.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Bring up DJ so we can see. Fucking sag it. Real talk. Real talk, bro. Y'all, there were no black people in Street Fighter. This motherfucker right here. E-Honda. That's him.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Come on, yo. That's who you left out. No, E-Honda's right. E-Honda's here. This is E-Honda. You left out E-Honda. This is a black dude. Go back. Go to him.
Starting point is 00:07:25 What do you mean go to back. Go to him. What do you mean, go to him? This is- Go to him. Go to him. You can't- Mark, are you looking this up? Son, this is the black dude. I'm telling you, we had a black dude.
Starting point is 00:07:34 You just never fought with him, you racist motherfucker. Hell no. You? No, but you got to fight against him. I remember one time I was fighting against this black dude, and that motherfucker was yelling, world star. The whole time I was like chill bro yoga flame
Starting point is 00:07:52 yoga flame now for real can you bring up a picture of him like the whole character I don't believe that guy was a character Al I don't believe that guy was a character I think you making that shit up anyway i'm telling you he was in the original nah he was just upgraded his look but he was all right sorry we're we're interrupting we're interrupting uh how india is
Starting point is 00:08:19 gonna be china what the fuck are you guys gonna use to fight them do you guys have an army yeah okay what weapons do you guys have what are you known for what is the weapon you guys going to use to fight them do you guys have an army yeah okay what weapons do you guys have what are you known for what is the weapon you're known for if it's hand to hand combat what is the weapon that you're known for motherfucking yoga dog so what we're gonna reach around these guys you know i mean fucking grab them and do what like what are you doing the weapon is a billion people. They got a billion people too. We got 1.4 and they're old motherfuckers. Young people are not enough.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Y'all got the oldest people. We got the oldest people. We got mad young people too. They don't got young people because they got one child per family. I don't know about that, bro. India's the most populated country. It's not even a question. Son, I really am concerned about india
Starting point is 00:09:05 we need to give y'all a weapon what is white people could be our weapon y'all have our fucking back for once we got your back what if we had a common enemy do we i've always had india's back yeah but haven't i always defended india china throughout the years they know they own our debt though like what china owns us so let's go with india solve that shit that's what i'm saying come on bro talking about al so yeah you come up with a trader you come up with a plan for the iphones and jordan's black people on who the fuck you think program this thing they just made it yeah it programmed sh You know, you're just saying things. Yeah. I'm just saying. Wait, India programs,
Starting point is 00:09:46 I voted. That's too foolish for this podcast. That shit really bothered our conference. The fact that you said Indians couldn't program, that really bothered
Starting point is 00:09:56 our conference It's like, what are we doing? What are we doing at this point? What are you saying things? No, but in all seriousness,
Starting point is 00:10:02 I want to support Indians in the best way possible. Yeah. I'm just trying to find a way where we could create a weapon for you. Send us your weapons. But I don't even know if you guys know how to use a weapon. Real talk. What is that?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Fuck China. That's our weapon. Fuck China. That's our weapon. What is everybody have our back? China out here trying to kill everybody with their fucking pandemic. Okay. Send us your weapons.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Why people? You got the best weapons. Give them to us. Yeah. But your most powerful thing is tricking white people into doing your shit no we've been doing shit and pretending we're you outsourcing calls no i'm talking about like i say my name is fucking brian you don't need yeah that's true but i'm saying you don't need white if you can get white people to join the fucking rajneeshi or whatever that is right if you can
Starting point is 00:10:43 get white people do yoga if you can get white people to put the fucking Rajneeshi or whatever that is, right? If you can get white people to do yoga, if you can get white people to put the feathers in their heads and shit, and to do the bindis, you can get white support for an anti-China war. That's what I'm saying. You come be our soldiers. Man, I don't know about all that, bro. Y'all might have to deal with that one yourself.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'm down to support India. People want your weapons, and you gotta fight for them. I'm really concerned. Give us the weapons. We're good money. I'm really concerned Don't give us the weapons We're good money I'm honestly concerned That I don't know
Starting point is 00:11:08 How you guys are gonna do the fighting If we don't have support We're not gonna win Why you think I'm so passionate About this subject Yeah yeah yeah What you think I'm talking about It might be a wrap
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm on his side now Because he hasn't said Black people need to do anything So I'm on your side Yo Are you gonna ask Black people No
Starting point is 00:11:24 So we good Hold on Are you gonna ask black people no so yeah we good stop their fight for civil rights here and then fight against no son if anything i'm trying to get more white people to go to india so you can get fucking you know i mean seize the opportunity there we go there we go i'm on board for nothing fuck china Fuck China Are you comfortable owing? Alright, alright, alright So India, we're with you bro We stand with you India, we got you If China talks that shit We gotta do something to China, I really believe this
Starting point is 00:11:57 Economic sanctions, we all gotta go to war But there gotta be economic sanctions I don't let them listen to this podcast I drew a line in the sands bro hey i drew a line in the sand guys hey you gotta click the boxes they're like do you want them to listen to in china i said nope nope real talk uh you know they ain't finding this shit on their google they're not fucking offensive ass podcast there's no way they listen to this in china but they listen to us in india though they do listen to us in india shout to india man what do y'all call india
Starting point is 00:12:33 oh what do we call india what did you just repeat the fucking question i just asked i didn't really understand a question so what do y'all call india that was the original name okay all right what do you say like um you know like uh I didn't really understand the question, so I'm not feeling it. What do y'all call India? Bharat. Bharat? That was the original name. Okay. All right. What do you say, like, you know, like, God bless America is our slogan. What y'all got?
Starting point is 00:12:53 India's in the bath. India's in the bath. Say it again. India's in the bath. India's in the bath. I don't think y'all been in the bath at all, but I think that's one of the biggest issues with India. Y'all need a fucking bath. Talk about us not showering, gagging gag now sitting here growing fucking dreadlocks he's french yeah
Starting point is 00:13:11 bro come on i was late no he canadian dude he's gay french that's true if you go double gay does it make it straight? I'll tell you from experience, yes. You cross the swords and then it comes back. Yeah, exactly. All right, dog. So for real,
Starting point is 00:13:33 if any of y'all are still listening, bro, we stand with India. Flagrant 2 is rocking with India in this whole thing, okay? Until China wipes them out
Starting point is 00:13:42 and then China, you know, we gonna reconcile and do what we need to do. I'm saying, yo, we need your support right now, yo. We need your support in this whole thing okay until china wipes them out and then china you know we're gonna reconcile what is it not indians on the back what the you're Not Indians in the back. What the fuck are y'all talking about? In the back. How do you say it? Zindabad. India Zindabad.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Man, I pronounced the pussy out of that. I really did, dude. India Zindabad. Not that good. Say it one more time. Say it one more time, you hick. Fucking farmer. That's your farmer-ass accent.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Look at all these Indians listening in here right now. What part of the farm is he from? Real talk, yo, if you're Indian listening to this podcast, does our guys not have a Pakistani accent? That's fireworks. I swear to God, I'll walk off this podcast right now. I'll walk off this podcast right now God I'll walk off this podcast Right now I'll walk off this podcast Right now
Starting point is 00:14:47 I'll walk off this podcast Right now I was offended for that Crossing lines yo Come on yo Yo Okay no But seriously
Starting point is 00:14:55 That's how you call A brown guy An Uncle Tom An Indian You don't call him An Uncle Tom You call him a Pakistani Really?
Starting point is 00:15:01 Probably A Pakitan A Pakitan Yo I got a really really probably I don't know a pocket on a pocket on yo I got a really cool announcement man I've been waiting to make this announcement for a
Starting point is 00:15:11 while we going back on the road man we are going back on the road it's official theandrewschultz.com for for the dates the cities the
Starting point is 00:15:20 tickets we're going to continue adding more as they get confirmed a lot of the shows that we've you know we couldn't do obviously because of Corona we've they get confirmed um a lot of the shows that we've uh you know we couldn't do obviously because of corona we've rescheduled so a lot of those are popping back up on it but the first day back that we are out there on the road performing again is going to be in kansas city missouri shout out to missouri the show me state is it i don't know it's the show me state yeah we will better not show no corona
Starting point is 00:15:47 uh we're gonna be there the 26th and 27th at the kansas city improv uh kansas city missouri uh then we got uh orlando florida we're rescheduling those dates the 17th to the 19th of july so that will be there that will be in ralealeigh, July 24th and 25th. Then we're going to be in Huntington. Oh, no, no. Actually, we're going to move the Huntington date. Long Island date,
Starting point is 00:16:13 we're going to move. But hey, we got plenty more. Syracuse, Albany, New Brunswick. Go check them out. Theandrewschultz.com will have all the dates. And obviously, the stand-up special taping
Starting point is 00:16:23 out there in LA is going to be in November 14th and 15th, i believe so go to theintros.com check out all those tickets and we got this all right let's get back oh okay no for real akash we've got a lot to talk about today yeah okay um like i mean there's been so many amazing things that have happened in the news do you know what i mean i just don't know what's coming that's all that's the best part yeah you don't either no i know neither do i but uh but no for real dude like um what did y'all what did y'all think about listen we've tried to have this discussion about the chapelle a46 thing it's been very difficult
Starting point is 00:17:07 um high stakes because you don't want to criticize it because it seems like you're criticizing the thing that he's supporting right so it's very difficult to detach this from detach the art from the point that he's making because there's not a lot of art in it right it's not if it was stand-up you could criticize the stand-up jokes but it's not stand-up he's just talking about what's happening um right now in our country and he's saying things um and speaking eloquently on it so you don't want to criticize it because it seems like you're criticizing his point of view instead of criticizing the way that he's delivering it right is that fair yeah sure yeah that that's why i think it's so harsh right so i think the
Starting point is 00:17:56 reaction a lot of people have and i think we agreed to look at this through two lens lenses one is our reaction to the piece and the other is our reaction to people's reaction to the piece. Yes. Right? And it's really difficult because we're jaded in a way because our expectation from Chappelle is so fucking great. Nothing less than mastery is acceptable. Is acceptable. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:18:24 If you are not putting every point forward masterfully yeah it's not chapelle and also keep this in mind for people who are listening a lot of you guys haven't been in a room and watched dave chapelle for six hours straight like akash and i have and alex has and i think in la you did it or is it yeah it was in la right and mark i don't know if you ever saw a long set from chappelle but like it's amazing it is unreal his ability to like control a room and honestly control expectation and patience you're not bored he could talk for six hours and not bored and akash you were kind of bringing this up with the special or not the special with this piece with this talk that he gave 846 which was i thought it was good overall but i was bored in the middle there were boring parts and that's kind and some
Starting point is 00:19:09 of his points i'm like oh that's that's the week that's the smoke you gave candace owens the candace own smoke was in like your pussy stinks undeniably weak and again it's so weird to even sit here and like criticize it i almost feel like the only reason we're talking about this is because it was exalted by the people so that's i think the issue and i think some of us had a bigger issue with it than others yeah me comics yeah comics are and i this is hypocritical because comics are like this is what comedy should be this is whatever it is i thought it was a good special it is not a good comedy special it's not comedy it was a good special. It is not a good comedy special. It's not comedy. It was a good talk. And I will let Dave Chappelle do this because I respect his brilliance and he has the credibility built up. If you're some fucking loser at an open mic, this is not what comedy is.
Starting point is 00:19:53 In the same way, we do not let Hannah Gadsby slide and say that's comedy. That's not comedy. Neither is this. Right. Exactly. The criticism of Hannah Gadsby would be like the people who agree with everything she's saying love her and the people who don't agree are going to go, well, it's not funny enough for me to not agree. And the amazing thing about comedy is that when a joke is funny, you cannot
Starting point is 00:20:16 agree with the point of view, but it's so funny, you're willing to digest it. It's like when you make a horrible food out of like sugar yeah you know how like sometimes people make a like a boot out of cake right right you know what i'm talking about and it's like oh fuck i'm eating a boot but i'm not like that's what comedy can be it can be this like sugary encasing for this thing that you would never eat in your life right and um i think maybe i was waiting for him to say stuff in a way that was so unimpeachable that people who completely disagreed with the support of Black Lives Matter and the support of this movement to end police brutality
Starting point is 00:20:51 and give black people the equality they're supposed to have, I was waiting for him to put forward these masterful arguments and I didn't see it based on a Chappelle level of mastery. Like I liked the Eric Dorner comparison. I thought that was really clever. This idea of like, and that is like a glimpse of what Chappelle does. He's like,
Starting point is 00:21:12 or sorry, it's Eric Garner, Chris Dorner. Yeah. So it's like, that's what he'll do. He'll take something and he'll go and he'll make you empathize. Let's say you're super supportive of the police.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He'll take that empathy you have for the police and he'll go and he'll make you empathize. Let's say you're super supportive of the police. He'll take that empathy you have for the police and he'll find a way to position that for this person that might be your enemy. Right. And he did that. And granted, this is his first time on stage in months. I think that if he had another three weeks with that joke or that idea, that's a hilarious bit.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I don't even think rust is ever an issue for him. I think he is. Well, there's a difference between rust I don't even think rust is ever an issue for him. I think he is. Well, there's a difference between rust and time working out a joke. So I think he didn't even have the time.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I think he felt like he needs to say something now and he's had three weeks to come up with bits about this. Right, right. So I wouldn't say 87 days. I'd say he has to put out
Starting point is 00:21:59 content in what, 21 days? Regardless, regardless. Like if that's your first time on stage, just for people who don't understand how comedy works works yeah exactly so it's like you start with an idea on stage and it's not that funny but the idea is there yeah and then it's just like a piece of wood you slowly carve it and shape it into a sculpture right and i feel like we had like
Starting point is 00:22:18 the wood right there right and again it's like, and that's a thought that I had that just came to me now. Yeah. You two are looking at it from comics POV. Yeah. I was just I'm just like a fan. Right. And so I thought it was a little bit better than what you guys think. Of course, I don't think it's Chappelle's best piece, but I also don't look at this as a comedy special.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I just look at this like a public speaking event. Yeah. I just look at this like a public speaking event as he talks on the issues going on. And then he just throws a little funny just to keep you engaged with it. Yeah, I agree with you. Looking at it from that point of view, I thought it was okay. I didn't hear anything new that I didn't already know. I did think it was good. But because he's such a great orator, it's like I was glued.
Starting point is 00:23:01 I did think it was good. I wasn't glued. And to your point, in the middle, I was like, yo, he's losing me. And at the end, and I've said this to y'all multiple times now, but this really hit me when he talked about George Floyd calling for his mom and then his dad. He's only heard that one other time, his dad calling for his grandma. And at the end, he says, my dad's grandma was a slave.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And the recency of that fucking stuck with me yeah yeah and again we all no one knows how long ago slavery was we all kind of put it 400 years ago 300 years ago 200 years ago that i was like holy fuck slavery was mad recent like slavery not separate water fountains i'm talking about no water in the fields mad reason so like that affected me in a way that i was like fuck and that made it worth it for me so i think i'm a little less harsh because i hadn't maybe i just don't know history at all i don't really care to but that put it in a way to me that i was like fuck if it was released by ted if it was a ted talk would your reaction be different no No. It'd be the same.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Yeah, because what I missed from it were prolific arguments. And I'm used to him making such prolific arguments within his stand-up. For me, and Akash and I might debate this, but when I see the arguments in his stand-up, I'm like, that logic is so unimpeachable that I could present that to the most right-wing person or the most left-wing person. And both of them will sit there and go, nah, you got a point. And what I saw here was raw emotion. And sometimes you need to speak off emotion. I'm not saying there isn't a place for that. But what Chappelle did so beautifully, I think, in his career was took that emotion and then carved it into these beautiful arguments that did a lot of the intellectual heavy lifting for the people that listened and watched them. And then you could take those arguments and then you could
Starting point is 00:24:51 use them when you're debating your uncle who might not really be empathetic to this struggle. And I just didn't really see that here. So if it was a TED Talk, I'd be like, there wasn't enough TED. What I saw was, you know what I'm saying? There wasn't enough Ted in it. So it was just a talk that I thought wasn't up to the standard of brilliance that Chappelle has. And if those arguments were made funny, I'd be like, all right, it was cool. I laughed. It was really, but then he didn't really put the effort to make them funny. So it was missing brilliance and missing funny and i think i went into it i think i went into it because i saw the way people react into it you gotta see
Starting point is 00:25:31 this is the greatest thing ever that this will never be not spoken about and it's no different than when you go into a movie and people say it's amazing and you're like wait a minute wasn't it the greatest movie i ever seen and now it seems like a letdown because my expectations were so high so two things that's a big difference actually because my
Starting point is 00:25:49 the first things comics sent me like Robbie Slovic who I trust was like it's not comedy still watch it and then
Starting point is 00:25:55 my girl had time to watch it before me and she was like she said the Hannah Gadsby thing she was like alright don't shit on Hannah Gadsby
Starting point is 00:26:01 I'm like this and I was like okay so it's not going to be funny and I know this so you went in with the right expectation so I, okay, so it's not going to be funny and I know this is going to happen. So you went in with the right expectation. So I went in knowing, okay, it's not going to be funny.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And in the middle, I was like, yo, she might be right. I might have to give Chappelle that Hannah Gadsby smoke. And then at the end, maybe I was so relieved there was something I could grab onto
Starting point is 00:26:18 that I was like, oh, thank God. Okay, I'm going to do that. But two theories about why it wasn't carved out as beautifully as we would have hoped. Yeah. Mine is time. He just didn't have time and he felt like i have to say something the country's at a fucking breaking point yeah two is alex's theory that he presented earlier and say that on the mic
Starting point is 00:26:35 what the editing and all that like what he has in store oh yeah i really feel that he had a performance a full stand-up performance and this was like the end of the performance where it's like he just talks to the crowd. So it's like he wasn't trying to deliver jokes. And something that stuck with me when Al said that is, you know, like very early into the Chappelle set, he goes, are y'all bored yet?
Starting point is 00:26:58 We've all seen Chappelle. When I see him doing six hours, he doesn't ask that shit for four hours. Are y'all bored yet? So for him to say that eight minutes in or whatever, I remember the time being like that's mad early for chapelle to ask if we're bored yep so that could be he could have done a long set knocked out some shit and then at the end just been emotional and that's all he put out i think that chapelle is moving towards and i've said this before just speaking and like being like almost like a teacher and like he has such prolific thoughts that they he can just talk to us about these things and we see in the past and i've seen him
Starting point is 00:27:29 do it live etc i just didn't see that prolific things being said about this i and and look i could be wrong but i ask you guys that are you know listen to the podcast like when you saw the arguments that he laid out or what he was talking about like was there something that you were like yo i didn't look at it that way outside of the of the dorner what's chris dorner chris dorner outside of the chris dorner thing i i don't was there something that you were like again for me the end and the end the end the thing the end i get why that resonated with you because i remember once my dad was telling me, my dad did this documentary on this guy, I forget his name, but he told a story about, he was this jazz
Starting point is 00:28:17 musician, and he told a story about his mom, I believe his mom. The jazz musician's super old. I believe his mom seeing Abraham Lincoln walk through DC. That's crazy. After slavery was abolished. And...
Starting point is 00:28:39 She's one of the last people to see this dude. Now, I'm wondering if it was his grandma, but I believe it was his mom. This guy has already passed. But when he said that to me, I got that feeling you got, which was, oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 This is not that long ago. Yeah. So maybe the reason that didn't affect me in the same way is because I've heard that story. But Chappelle putting it in that way, I can see how it really affected you. And it can really put in context to other people who are not sympathetic to the black plight in america they're like yeah why don't you get over that shit it's like it's new still right okay i see i see that i see that there i don't know positives what are the positives chapelle said something that's a positive yeah i thought the candace owens point was actually
Starting point is 00:29:25 pretty decent like obviously the roast of her was like was trash but like when he like candace owens raises this point where she goes black people are the only group of people that sort of like exalt or uphold the and make martyrs of the worst of our uh the worst of our group yeah and that we constantly like praise and make t-shirts out of these people that are criminals and you know people and like why do we choose these people and then chapelle says we don't choose them you choose them the cops choose them yeah the cop that was a great point and i probably forgot about it because at that point i was like this is yeah the candace owens roast was trash yeah i would almost rather heard him not roast her because it i think clouded that point right and then his only rose over it was like,
Starting point is 00:30:05 she's so articulate. And then the stinky pussy thing. Right, right. But he was complimenting her at the same time. I was like, I felt conflicted as to what he was trying to say. Yo, I'm not gonna lie. Candace handled that shit beautifully.
Starting point is 00:30:15 She's smart, dude. She's not dumb. That was what Chappelle said. She's not dumb. If y'all didn't see the way she handled it, she didn't criticize. She didn't push back. She was just like,
Starting point is 00:30:24 she's like, to every Democrat tweeting me the clip of dave chapelle and son to sell to me i'm not a left a leftist i have a sense of humor i think comics should make fun of people dave chapelle is one of the greatest comedians of all time i made it to one of his specials that's power and then she says some other shit like uh i hope that you know we meet sometime you could say that stuff to my face and then like winky face. But like she chose to take the road of, I'm gonna laugh at this, allow it to happen
Starting point is 00:30:50 instead of being all butthurt. And then she actually looks good coming out of it. Whereas like if he leaned into that idea and then leaned into the caricature that she is and how the right, the people on the right hold her up as a token so that all of her their arguments can be filtered through her yeah so that they can't be called racist for
Starting point is 00:31:12 having i guarantee you if you ask him about candace owens he has a great opinion on candace owens so why let's hear that i know and i don't that i agree with i agree with that this is like what is and that point is a great point we don't want these people to be our heroes you do this that's a great point you think he's saving it for a stand-up bit you think he's got like a bit probably because we do that we're on the road we release some of the stuff you know but we're like no don't keep that that's going to be a bit we're going to put that in the next special and maybe he has some real candace smoke but he's like oh no let me carve that out that's going to be the one that like you know puts the machete and this could be proof i also thought this could be proof as i was watching it of what you've said which is i think he's transitioning out of stand-up yes and i think i don't think
Starting point is 00:31:54 he is malcolm or martin but i think when people say like who's our guy he has the potential to be one of those guys yeah in that it might not be the same level but that's that's who we got right now and i think this is him maybe getting comfortable with stepping out of because there's because humor for all of us is a defense mechanism yes so maybe for him it was let me get my points across through humor and this is him kind of shedding away the defense mechanism of humor and it's let me just put forth my emotion yeah and we'll carve it out from there i like i like that slow transition we've seen him do it right he did it at the i think mark twain yeah uh he did it um he's been doing it a bunch
Starting point is 00:32:30 of different places just kind of like talking but also talking funny and i've always said it's like i'd love chapelle just be a teacher yeah i don't think that this was what he said was at the level of his specials even his his special like i would rather listen to his arguments from his specials without the punchlines like i think some of the arguments in the specials without the punchlines were so prolific even when he did the bird revelation there weren't a lot of punchlines in it she was incredible but it was masterful if you compare this to that there's a different level of mastery going on we We can acknowledge that, right? I'm going to say something that's going to sound blasphemous.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Go. But Sticks and Stones wasn't up to the level of his other stuff. So is it just... Oh. Come on, son. We got to present all of the arguments. To me, that's the goat. But Sticks and Stones, I remember kind of thinking the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like, these aren't ideas I haven't heard before. i expected more comedy special from sticks and stones this i was thinking like you weren't a fan of sticks and stones i wasn't a massive fan it was good and i'm glad chapelle's the guy carrying that torch forward it helps all of us yeah but i remember thinking we've said this stuff and chapelle i i'm not a genius by any stretch if i have the same point as chapelle i don't look at me smarter i look at chapelle like what are you doing what the hell's going on here i think sticks and so it was a bar when he said like he can't say maggot but he could say nigga on uh yeah the network execs yeah yeah and she was like oh well you can't say maggot because you're not gay he's like well i'm also not a nigga yeah but a gay person could say the f word and if she said the same argument he'd be
Starting point is 00:34:09 like yeah well i'm not an f word see what i'm saying like the thing with that joke is the argument on the surface seemed great because it satisfied our emotions but if you actually kind of like peel it apart you're like so is the gay person an f word yeah he's not but he can basically saying like you have the license to use the bad words that are attributed to you but you don't have the license to use the bad words they attribute to people who aren't you but he phrased it as if she was calling him the n-word so she got he kind of like sacrificed her for the joke and i thought the joke was really good and this is one of the beautiful things about stand-up it doesn't have to be the court of law no that can be like a really fun
Starting point is 00:34:47 fucking bit yeah and a great point yeah thanks a lot guys for not yeah we really ruined that and maybe and i and maybe we ruin it for other people but maybe that's also like the way that that's the standard we hold up to chapelle too for me yeah like i just think he's the greatest living comedian i still think yeah i think and i love patrice but just the chapelle too for me yeah like i just think he's the greatest living comedian i still think yeah i think and i love patrice but just the chapelle i just think goat like i just do and maybe patrice is right underneath him or whatever but like i don't that doesn't take away from his greatness it just that's what i saw you're still great yeah and the thing that was special about this if you want to call it a special i'm not calling a comedy if you want to call it a special the thing that was special was he's dave chappelle showing us a side of himself he's never shown us
Starting point is 00:35:29 right and the timing and he spoke out and that's kind of what made it special and that's that's it right and i don't mean that like fuck this is a piece of trash but like if we're gonna call it a special that's why it's special and that's how i can compartmentalize it because it wasn't special in its content necessarily right throughout it wasn't special in its content necessarily throughout. It wasn't special in the fact that it was hilarious. Why do you think people felt the need, especially like our comics friends, to like talk about how prolific it was?
Starting point is 00:35:54 He's our Trump, man. He's our Trump. Oh, like no matter what he does, it's good. Yeah, but he's like, he's much, and I'm not saying he is Trump at all. I think he's the greatest. But a Trump supporter, anything Trump does is brilliant. Chappelle earned that with us, but anything he does is brilliant.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Ah, so we're looking at him through like rose-colored glasses or something like that? Rose-colored glasses. Yeah, yeah. And he deserves it. He's earned that. Yeah, yeah. I really believe if a guy overrates Chappelle, cool, just don't think you got the same license. That's my only advice to comics. If you think this is comedy should be this is what dave chapelle is allowed to
Starting point is 00:36:28 be you are not yeah you're gonna be asking if people are bored a lot too they're gonna they're gonna have been left bro where are you guys going there's a protest we gotta get yeah yeah man um all right well i think that's a more productive discussion damn we had earlier yeah i think we gotta talk about it you know like obviously you guys listen to the podcast you don't want to hear our perspectives on on these things and um yeah man yo i saw a fire ass movie uh wall e where i couldn't watch it they don't talk into that bitch son that's how useless actors are actors are fucking useless okay i'm on board okay this is how this is why we shouldn't listen to a single fucking thing any of them say there's a movie called wall e okay right this guy
Starting point is 00:37:20 this guy it's a movie about a robot called Wall-E. Right. And then another one called Eve. They don't speak English. They just say their names. That's the whole movie. That's it. And it's cartoons. You don't need actors for anything. Did you see the movie, Al?
Starting point is 00:37:39 I did see the movie. I couldn't make it through, yo. I don't think. It's a motherfucker cleaning up litter for 30 minutes. It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great. Say minutes. It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great. Say again? It didn't stick with me, so it wasn't that great. Man, that movie was touching, bro. No, people feel this.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I don't. I was like, this shit is boring, son. But a whole movie with no acting, no words. That's not amazing, bro. That's like silent films back in the day. You really didn't need them to talk. That's what I'm saying, yo. We can't even call that a talkie.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Like, that's how old-fashioned this movie is. This is 100 years ago. 100 years ago. A little Mexican robot cleaning up the fucking earth, right? And then this white savior comes down. Yo, real talk. That's what the movie is. White savior comes down, finds a little plant the Mexican found.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I don't even make it to the people. Takes that back to the white people. White people are like, oh, there's land. Real talk. This is Christopher Columbus, bro. That's really what this whole movie is about. The white people are just up in there, just floating around in the sea of the space or whatever it is. They found some land, went, took that shit over.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Wally fell in love. We got to take down some of these Wally statues. Say again? We got to take down some of these Wally statues. Yo, bro, you can't take down Wally, dog. That shit is, dude. I'm telling you, man. Y'all got to check out.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I couldn't make it through. Yo, in the beginning, so fucking boring. Nah, because you don't know what's going on. I don't want to not know what's going on i don't want to not know what's going on for 30 minutes i actually love that that's my favorite part of the movie you out yo how do you get yo don't fucking sit there and tell him say chapelle bored you and then you watch you watch wall-e for 30 minutes and still gave it a chance that's why he bored me that's why he bored me because i knew what was going on my favorite part of the beginning
Starting point is 00:39:23 of the movie is when i don't know what's going on and they stretch that shit out for a long time. I don't know what happened. I don't know. God called me bullshit. God called me bullshit, bro. God called me bullshit, bro. You got a ghost dick or something. No, it's this.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Dude, that was some weird shit. No, but in all seriousness, I don't know what the device it is in a movie. I guarantee there's a name for the device where the beginning just confuses you. You don't know exactly what's happening. You know what I'm talking about? No, man, but 30 minutes? No, but I know a lot of movies do that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Because I'm like, wait, what the fuck is going on? What the fuck is happening here? With the Chabelle thing, I knew what was happening. Okay. You're an idiot sometimes. What? You're an idiot sometimes. Why?
Starting point is 00:40:13 I thought the movie was great. This is me. Now I'm like, you like Wally? That shit was trash, yo. That's what he does. Cleans fucking trash. What do you want alright we're gonna take a break for a second man
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Starting point is 00:42:10 There we go. Your guy's girl. Your guy's girl, the most talented woman on the internet, B. Simone. Was it on Patreon I said it? I think it might be on Patreon. I said these types cannot have a career in doing this. You can't have a career just smacking your lips on the fucking Instagram.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Okay? What is that? Fucked up? You can't say that? Yeah. Nah, bro. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:36 What is it? Why? Is that wrong to say? Black people with big lips, they might correlate that. So shut up. Why are you searching for the outrage? I'm trying to save you motherfuckers, man. Fine.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Say everything. Nah, save me, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You and I said it. I was like, wait, is that racist? No, yo, it ain't racist. It could be easily taken the wrong way. Nah, it ain't supposed to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:42:56 You know what? While we're talking about people who take shit the wrong way, she stole her entire book, right? Yeah, she took her whole book from someone else. Real talk. She did loot that book. So last week we were talking about her. I lost this one.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I'm out here defending this bitch. You were defending this bitch. What were you saying? I just said it was based on the book. I was like, yo, she got, I don't think she's funny. It was based on the book. I said, I don't think she's funny, but she done wrote a book she said she's gonna be fine she's a smart girl yeah i didn't know the book was just stolen from somebody else
Starting point is 00:43:32 because these people don't have it you need a certain amount of talent and a certain amount of work ethic to get this shit done and you don't do that when you just steal it and she didn't do work and she ain't got no ethics so so it's done but it was mad fun when meek mill tried to defend what the fuck is meek mill doing bro meek mill was like white people have been stealing our culture and stealing us for years and now you're gonna you know come down on this girl for doing that shit and it's like what was your argument against drake the whole time what was your drake argument that's you got a ghostwriter. That's hilarious. You are stealing Drake shit, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It's like, man, you know what's really funny is like, people don't realize when they go from like hip hop to activism, no one calls you and your shit in hip hop. Because hip hop is wrestling, right? So if you're like, I'm out in the streets, I'm shooting people, I'm selling drugs, I'm fighting, I'm doing all this shit. We're like, yeah, do that. Randy Orton, are you RKO-ing your wife? Sick. on drugs i'm fighting i'm doing all this shit we're like yeah yeah do that yeah randy orton
Starting point is 00:44:25 are you rko and your wife sick nobody's going you didn't really rko her and it was set up and she was just hanging by the pool and that's really convenient we want to believe the wrestling so when you go from wrestling to real life motherfuckers are going to call you on your shit and now they got to make arguments to actually stand up and they're not used to making arguments to stand up. They're just going, all right, what would sound the most fire right here? I'm woke.
Starting point is 00:44:48 I'm with it. I'm an activist. What's the most fire thing to say? Support all black women, even if they be stealing. That shit sounds like bars. It sounds hot, right? And the second somebody's like,
Starting point is 00:45:00 wait, what? What about Drake? He's a black woman. You're just going to let him? Why are you not going to let him steal? I mean, you don't call him a bitch so many times. He better be a woman. Real talk.
Starting point is 00:45:11 He got feelings like a woman. He got feelings? He be singing in his shit? Yo, I'm saying. He says, I got my eyes on you. Is that the song? Yeah, yeah. I got my eyes on you.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah. That's a womanly thing to do. Yo, leave me alone, Drake. You're a rapist? Yeah. yeah that's a womanly thing to do you know leave me alone or a rapist you're either a woman or a predator to say some shit like i got my eyes on you yo they gotta reshoot that whole reshoot the whole video geez he's just in a bush in a park yo you think cosby's one eye just went cockeyed So he could look at other bitches That he was finna rape
Starting point is 00:45:45 To always have a No matter who he's talking to He's looking at bitches That he can rape I've got my eye on you Yo Where's Cosby During all this shit
Starting point is 00:46:01 Fuck Chappelle's special What Cosby got to say I told you You should've wore your pants Cosby during all this shit. Fuck Chappelle's special. What Cosby got to say about this? I told you you should have worn your pants higher. Oh, my God. You think he gets raped in jail? Say what? Hell no, dog.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Put some respect on Cosby's name, yo. Fuck out of here, dog. You don't think he catching him rapes? No, son. I know he got his pants high, bro. Maybe that's why he got his pants high because he knew what happens to him eventually i heard that's how sagging started it was like some jail culture shit to let people know you were down to get fucked or something like that no bro it was just because they didn't have the right sizes so it was
Starting point is 00:46:39 one size fits all gear why don't you just tie that rope tighter i bet cosby ain't sagging tie that rope tight because they've got to take that rope off and make fucking spaghetti out of it or some shit. You know how they're useful out there? There's no rope. Resourceful ass. Is every inmate like an Eagle Scout? Son, why? That motherfucker just a survivor, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:57 What's up? Getting married badges. Bro, it's so true how amazingly prolific. Like, you know what really goes to show me that motherfuckers on that show survivor ain't shit and the motherfuckers on that show naked and afraid ain't shit you right because these jail dudes within a week they're finding ways to make a bunsen burner on the bottom of the bed and the bed turns into a hot plate and they can turn ramen into fucking sandwiches and shit they find ways to talk to each other
Starting point is 00:47:26 through the toilets. They got all this crazy shit that they could do and 28 days later, they got a whole pond full of fish. Can't catch a goddamn fish. The real naked afraid is the prison shower.
Starting point is 00:47:36 That's it. Yo, son. Naked and afraid, the prison shower. That's a fire episode, son. I gotta watch that one oh my god bro
Starting point is 00:47:47 real talk why haven't dudes in prison found a way to make a butt plug that's a good ass point what they just
Starting point is 00:47:54 pushed that shit in they push it further yeah you don't think they clench trying to stop the rape I think dudes do
Starting point is 00:48:02 that's the thing like and I'm not trying to put this out there in the world alright I think dudes do that's the thing like and I'm not trying to put this out there in the world alright I'm not trying to put this out there in the world but you're
Starting point is 00:48:14 not getting in here bro you're not getting in here bro I would have to be unconscious I'd have to be unconscious and you'd have to use saliva how are you going to slide it in? I don't think I don't think they're concerned
Starting point is 00:48:31 How are you going to slide it in? I don't think they're concerned with Lubrication Like I don't think I don't know how it could go in I don't know how it could go in I don't know how it could go in Maybe I'm tighter than y'all
Starting point is 00:48:42 Have you tested the tightness of your asshole? I put a little finger up in there. I've wiped and I've gone a little up in there. If I'm taking out them dingle burrs, if I'm taking out them dingle burrs in the shower, I pulled a dingle burr from inside or some toilet paper that got stuck. What? I have. You be having gay sex with yourself son that's wild come on docs come on docs i just go to that first nook nook if we buck
Starting point is 00:49:13 exactly dude exactly dude for real i'm just saying you a guy is going to be able to push his whole dick in you, dude? I'm uncomfortable. I'm going to be honest. Yes. How does it work, dog? I really don't know. I don't want to find out. Too bad.
Starting point is 00:49:37 All right. Have you ever shit your pants before? Say again? Have you ever shit your pants before? Yep. On a bicycle. I'm pretty sure you were holding it and it still got out. So if it can get out, it can get in.
Starting point is 00:49:46 That's not true. Yes, it can. What about Venus fly traps? What? Or the Chinese finger traps? You mean the asshole with the Chinese finger traps? Yes, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:59 So it's easy to get in but you can't get it out? Yes, the shit can come straight out but it's not supposed to go back in unless it gets to a certain point and then it goes all the way and i learned that from taking those pills in my butt those whenever i had the hemorrhoid you're exposing too much pills in my
Starting point is 00:50:15 butt what because it's for hemorrhoids yeah all right you know that was too much remark who told you put pills in your butt? Well, it's tough for me to swallow. What's gayer? So I feel like I just put it right to the source. What's gayer? What's gayer? I can swallow anything or it's tough for me to swallow, put it in my butt?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yo, I think mad dudes can swallow, but they front like they can't. Like, they're like, oh, it's hard for me to swallow pills to swallow pills but it's like nah you just think that's a gateway drug like you know like like you swallow one of those big ass like brown vitamins that comes in that like almost opaque jar you know the shits what are they called y'all used to sell them omega-3s yeah omega-3s they make them mad big bro what's the point of all that soft gel though it's easy no i'm talking about the hard ones they feel like they're like wood chips multivitamin is that multivitamin yeah yeah what dude all right what else we got we got this black ass bachelor
Starting point is 00:51:24 yo what if chapelle's whole thing was about the black bastard now that uh tune in for it my man look a little corny to me but what's the deal so for the first time i believe in 19 years of the bachelor history they have their first black bachelor okay timing the timing seems a little well they had a black bachelorette yeah maybe just took a while to find one without a kid no but there was a black bachelorette i remember i watched her season like a year ago right yeah yeah i didn't watch i forget her name she was a beast but then the show start as the bachelor and then they switched over to yeah sure but like the reason why there hasn't been a black bachelor i think since or bachelorette since because she had the lowest rated season oh that was like two years ago yeah this shit
Starting point is 00:52:15 gonna be low too was she did she look good yo did they pick like i'm not saying america's racist but bachelor fans are racist yeah that's a fact like that's the racist part of america that's what fans are not racist but the higher rate of show on television they're racist yeah all right bro for real sudden the lowest rated season was this black girl and she was dope she was like a lawyer she's smart as fuck somebody's like dumb bimbos just pretty pretty you crack i mean in back of the day back in the day when i crack i mean i've taken down some fucking ducklings is to me what i crack yeah damn it some girls have gotten a lick off of me bro you know i mean real talk so proud of it. It's their greatest achievement.
Starting point is 00:53:05 No, I took down some fucking Voldemorts. I took down some beasts, bro. They put a multivitamin in your ass? No, you know, I never had a girl put anything in my ass. Tongue got licked. I got that lick. But yeah, and they're upset at this guy because they wanted this other guy. Mike.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah, Mike. I watched that season. Was he good? I don't know. Everybody seemed to like him. I didn't get it. So here's the thing, and this is,
Starting point is 00:53:32 and correct me if I'm wrong. He's not in a relationship. Yeah, I know. This is a trial. You're going to find out about the best. He is in a whole relationship. Harry Potter.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Our relationships aren't real, son. That's true. They're really not real. That shit is like the wand he bought at Universal where it's like yeah that's a wand they don't have none of the like reality of a one harry potter that's our relationship just get back in a relationship bro it's a harry i mean you are in a relationship that white girl
Starting point is 00:53:58 stayed in the u.s for two more years you'd know what's going on in the bachelor you don't watch every episode you come in the room it's on you sit down you leave you know what's going on in the bachelor you don't watch every episode you come in the room it's on you sit down you leave you know what's going on yeah but you remember the dudes that were on i remember the black dude that was on it obviously respect fine ass so why didn't they pick that dude so i have a theory about this i have a theory about this too you go first okay uh i think that they're i think the other guy has more black features. Ooh. And this guy is- He looks soft. This guy is black, but he's racially ambiguous in his face.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So his features don't look specifically black. Now, the other guy- I thought he could be a dark-skinned Indian. Yeah, he could be Indian. He could be Latino. You're not exactly sure. He's kind of like one of those shampoo commercials where they have the girl, you don't know what race she is is so all races could be like oh head and shoulders work for me right
Starting point is 00:54:47 so i think that that's what they did i think they did a lot of testing the other guy on paper is actually perfect he's like a wealth manager he was in the air force he's like the ideal american yeah husband right but i think that his features are more black and i think that these fucking racist execs or maybe they're not even racist, but maybe these execs are- He's catering to the fan base. Yeah, the racist fans are like, oh, I'm not going to watch it
Starting point is 00:55:11 because I don't see myself marrying him or I don't see myself in him. And this is a real thing. White girls watch this shit. I want to say something that has happened to my friends and I've experienced. White girls fuck black guys. They date black guys.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And then they hit their late 20s and that's the i want to settle down age and then they stop doing it and i've had friends have gone through with this i'm not gonna shout out the homies but like they've literally experienced like just banging black black white chicks all the time they love them it's a great thing they dated relationships etc and then as he's gotten older all of a sudden the age range of girls he's been fucking hasn't really elevated with his age because the white girls in that age are like uh i kind of want to settle down with this white guy like i know i'm woke and i'm progressive and we did all this shit but that was my fun time i want to have a white husband and do my white picket
Starting point is 00:55:59 fence etc and this show is aspirational. This show is who would I marry? How do I see myself in these person's shoes? And because the other guy I think looked a little bit more whatever traditionally black, whatever fucking bullshit that means, I think they're like, no, no, throw a racially ambiguous guy out there. Maybe they could see themselves with him. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Do you think that's more pressure from the actual girl or from the family? Fanbase. No, family. Oh. Like why the girls stop dating black guys when they want to settle down. I think it's both. I usually think it's pressure from the family. I think it's family, but I think it's also like culture trickles down.
Starting point is 00:56:35 So I think like that pressure of the family ends up becoming who they are. Just like racists breed more racists. Though, devil's advocate. Yeah. What is, so this guy that was on The Bachelor before, made it really far, was really popular, wouldn't it theoretically hold over if he became The Bachelor? Like, people already like him, he has cachet, you know him.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yep. Doesn't that hold some sway? 100%. It absolutely could. And they could be making a huge mistake. Again, these executives are making these moves just to keep their jobs. Yeah, I think they're fucking up. Yeah, and I think they could be fucking up because they could be,
Starting point is 00:57:05 and I could be, misinterpreting how supportive they would be towards that other guy. Yeah. You know? So I think there's a couple things. I think that's probably true. But this dude had – so the way The Bachelor works, I guess, is there's a community that happens once you're in the shit.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Yeah. Like you become a part of – like there's greater zeitgeist. Yeah. So he was on the football team with another guy that was supposed to win so like this dude tyler cameron was supposed to win he was like the favorite and then he lost and this dude was like his best friend like off the show and i fucked up yo yeah that's for real so he got this cosign from the guy that was supposed to win and then on top of that the girl that that girl hannah brown said the n-word on on a live yeah and then got a bunch of heat for like you rapped along to a song instead of them yeah yeah that's important to clarify yeah but like got a ton of heat from
Starting point is 00:57:55 like the bachelor fan base and all these people going crazy this is like before george floyd even like two weeks and then as a result of all like the bachelor heat black lives matter all that shit they were like all right we have to pick a black dude and i don't think they necessarily wanted someone with that's already been on the show that has like baggage that like goes along with being on the show but michael doesn't have baggage apparently apparently everybody loved him he got far and he was like super enjoying super like i i literally think like on the executive level these shits because they have no talent these execs they just run everything through focus focus group focus group and they focus grouped michael i'm
Starting point is 00:58:29 sure and then they focus group this guy and they're like who would you see yourself with who do you see yourself in and then all the guys that watch are like yeah probably relate more to that guy because literally his face is just similar looking in shape and if the audience that watches it is 80 white or 90 with some absurd amount white i think that they're like okay let's just go with this guy and it could be wrong what did you mean he's supposed to win like this it's rigged already no no but like she literally picked a guy who like broke up with a girl in the middle of the show that he was dating throughout the show and he there's she has text messages of him being like yo i gotta do this is good for my career that guy won
Starting point is 00:59:09 and then this other guy started fucking giselle or something like that after not giselle not giselle who's the hajia hadid or something like that like he he's running through bitches now he's like a guy she started following him off of the show they went on dates like how do you get on a bachelor who fucked who am i white guy tyler c yeah with gia hadid who's the one who's the one that's with fine ass zayn mullick motherfucker fine dog gg hadid gg hadid yeah she pregnant right now yeah yeah i think they were like on again off again or something they like went out on dates there's like pictures my girl keeping me posted. Thank God she settled down with fine ass Zayn. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Good for you, Gigi. Is he Indian? Hey, half. I'll take it. That's a come up. But she's probably Indian too or something like that. She's Muzi, I think. She's half Muslim, I think.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Hadid. Or Hadid. Yeah. Nah, but just like to make up for all the years they didn't have black people, he should start with one and end with 30. He should start with one. Yeah, start with one girl and start with one and end with 30. He should start with one. Yeah, start with one girl and end with all 30.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Like you got to make up for all the years that we didn't have. Right. Yeah. Is there anything that would look worse for black men
Starting point is 01:00:15 than cheating on 30 on their own? At the end of the show, like that's how it ends? I mean, you want to be authentic. Yo, while we're talking about rape can you tell us about the uh can you tell us about the uh can you tell yo can you tell us about the um uncle uh what's it rush uh russell simmons documentary can you break that down apparently there's this russell simmons documentary can you break that down apparently there's this russell simmons
Starting point is 01:00:45 documentary that like mad girls are coming out talking about him and his defense is uh i was fucking way finer girls like literally apparently his defense is is is now i was fucking models back then like if you saw the pussy house game back then it's pretty hilarious so he's like tone deaf in terms of just like with so so regular people literally deaf jam oh my god but yeah so hbo has some documentary it was is that why he calls it deaf jam because he's deaf and then he just jams he's deaf to the nose he's been telling us this whole time who names a music label bro go on go on um so hilarious is i didn't hear him i didn't no just a quick story hbo had a deal here they had a documentary about russell simmons and all
Starting point is 01:01:58 the women that allege he like were misconduct or rape things of that nature um he denies everything the only one he has compassion for just one girl in the whole thing and he's like oh yeah i can understand how she felt like scared in that moment because like when she got in my car and then the doors locked and she thought she was in danger and i was like but this is the 90s you know like you get in cars and the doors just automatically lock so i can see how she might have misconstrued that time in the car or whatever but it's like out of all the girls making these accusations he's only he only cares about one single girl also he's been in thailand yeah where you can't uh what's it called like detain somebody detain somebody and you know what he's been oh uh extradite yeah you can't
Starting point is 01:02:41 extradite and you know what he's been doing while he's in thailand fucking these trannies no huh yoga he'd been talking about yoga for 20 years and i didn't believe that shit ever i'm starting to believe there's a correlation between rape and yoga it's not just indians guys yo that's how india is gonna take over the oh that's your defense against the chinese i know that's what he was saying that they would go rape him but think about it what did america just reasonably recently get and appropriate from india yoga yoga right what did america recently start doing a lot rape i think
Starting point is 01:03:28 hold on now hold on now think about it right me too movement pops up all these rapes were happening what the 80s 90s 2000s when does yoga get here 80s pops up 90s 2000s i think y'all imported that rape look man i'm not gonna i can't support you you know i mean yeah i'm not gonna you you run with this i want you to do you okay i just can't be Indian and then be like, you're right. So you do you. I'm just saying. And I won't disprove anything, but you go.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'm just saying there's a lot of things here, right? Hey, Al, you want to speak to one? What's the first position? Downward dog? That's actually a good point. Right? And then they give you a position that makes it look like you're fighting back. Warrior one.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Right? And then, oh, that doesn't work. Warrior two. You know what I mean? Child's pose. And then when you're in the shower and just kind of wash it all off. Child's pose. Bro. It's not yoga, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:42 It's a complete rape cycle. Yeah. Beginning to end dude i know you can't get on board with this i can't but hey i'm not not i'm not disproving it so what do you think happens with him do you think he ever comes back like what do you think this is all yeah another another part i forgot to mention so he said like oh he doesn't even care about the media doesn't care about people public opinion he's't care about public opinion. He only cares about what his daughters think. And so to prove to his daughters that he's telling the truth, he took nine lie detector tests.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Does that sound like a person who's just trying to prove his innocence or who's practicing how to pass a lie detector test? Oh, that's great. I took one PSAT dog this motherfucker took nine like real talk nine though probably failed the first eight
Starting point is 01:05:35 run that shit back when do you take nine at anything if you do it right the first time name one thing you repeat nine times if you're doing it right. Oh, fuck. And he said this publicly in an interview
Starting point is 01:05:48 like he was doing something good. You know what that feels like? You know when you're at the carnival game and you try to throw the little ring on the fucking milk bottle? You just keep telling me
Starting point is 01:05:55 I run it back, yo. No, I got it. I didn't rape him all this time. Oh, yo. That's wild, though. What'd you think, Mark? Do you believe the accusers more considering that like
Starting point is 01:06:07 they're coming out against the prominent black men like this week yo yeah but this kind of came out a long time ago oh really yeah so why is all the news breaking now just because uh the documentary just dropped probably yo hbo's wild for dropping that documentary right now they don't give a fuck yo i think they tried to hide it say what i think they tried to hide it because they put on hbo max yeah that new shit that nobody had oh yeah okay how is that different than hbo go and hbo whatever i did they're really dropping the ball on this one nobody knows are bro and that's what they thought was going to get everybody to sign up yeah during the fucking black lives matter protest i mean they're fucking up left and right.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Who are they trying to get? Yo, Peter, what's his name? Gotta go, yo. Who's Peter what? Peter Nielsen. Oh, the dude that I threw the bone to? The dude I threw the scraps to?
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah. When I let him have the scraps, bro. What, bro? You gotta let Peter Nielsen get them scraps, bro. You made barbecue, dog. That's it, dog it you know what's interesting is scraps
Starting point is 01:07:06 scraps is what she's making on unemployment right now she didn't get that furlough she probably had to call her daddy for some money son
Starting point is 01:07:19 son real talk my man yo when we found out my man killed boxing dogs i'm telling you he gotta go yo he's fucking up that's foul bro wait he killed boxing on hbo not exactly kill i don't want to put that all on him obviously you know boxing has been in a transition phase but like hbo did a lot of the boxing and then i think yeah showtime's been killing yeah so mcgregor
Starting point is 01:07:43 mcgregor mayweather went over to Showtime with a massive contract yeah you let you let Mayweather go you let boxing go yeah basically alright we're gonna take a break
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Starting point is 01:10:08 um what else we got man what else happened keep it in sports uh so oh yo actually i have an argument yeah like so the kairi thing oh it's so heavy today but the kairi thing's interesting did you hear about the kairi yeah yeah yeah yeah oh yeah what a surprise kairi doesn't want to play basketball hey you know what this is this is kairi trying to be woke to fuck more white girls i know this guy i see through his hustle i see through you kairi you don't think it's real you don't think it's legit what a stupid fucking argument go go go go make your oh we can't affect social change if we play you know who wants to play lebron james you know who's done a lot more for social change than you?
Starting point is 01:10:45 LeBron James. Great argument. LeBron is always on the front line speaking whenever he got to speak. Kyrie talking about fucking three eyes the whole past year. Not playing, complaining about not being
Starting point is 01:10:54 the fucking alpha like he wants to be. Where were you on social issues this whole time? Great point. Now your solution is to stay silent and do nothing
Starting point is 01:11:02 and that's how you affect social change. Great point. I think that's how you affect social change. Great point. I think that's a great point. I actually feel. Isn't it funny how we switch on the Chappelle position and this position? Yeah. You're like, Chappelle is going to let the streets talk.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And I'm like, yeah. And then I'm like, Kyrie is going to let the streets talk. And you're like, yeah. And I think we actually both agree which is like like my issue is that chapelle's was like yo i'm gonna let the streets talk and then he put out the special where he's talking but uh and uh i'm sure you probably feel a similar way with kairi right is but uh so here's my thinking about it as much as i want fucking basketball dog as much as i want a sport right we're in a very unique time in history where there can be a singular focus about one cause
Starting point is 01:11:50 the entire world is concerned about black lives right and regardless if you want to accept this or not a major part of that is there's not a lot else going on i know that sounds like a fucked up thing does that sound fucked up no that's a valid point it's a valid point there's not a lot else going on. I know that sounds like a fucked up thing. Does that sound fucked up to say? No, that's a valid point. No, there's not. It's a valid point. There's not a lot going on. So when there's not a lot going on, you can focus on something.
Starting point is 01:12:12 When you don't, listen, there's so many people. I know so many white people are like, listen, I don't want anything bad to happen to black people. I want them to have equality. Yo, there's a march. I got to take my kids to soccer practice, man. Like I want to be there,
Starting point is 01:12:23 but I got to take, my wife wife I promise there's so many other things that you were gonna do because we all have lives dog we all have fucking lives and right now there's nothing else to do
Starting point is 01:12:31 the one activity you're allowed to do even the fucking CDC as bullshit as they are we're like yo you can do this you can go outside you can march
Starting point is 01:12:37 you can protest there's a singular focus on this issue the second other things start opening right yo to your point Tiger King was enough to distract us from racism Tiger King There's a singular focus on this issue. The second other things start opening, right? Yo, to your point, Tiger King was enough to distract us from racism. Tiger King.
Starting point is 01:12:50 The second these other things start opening, you're going to give us a thing to be distracted about. Especially you're going to open almost right into the playoffs. Yeah. So now are we going to watch LeBron play the fucking Celtics in the finals? Or are we going to go to this protest? What are we going to do? So do I think Kyrie's actions have, for the most of his career, publicly been selfish?
Starting point is 01:13:13 Just publicly. I can't say what he does with his private life. Publicly, have they been selfish? Yes. Yes. So it's really hard to hear this from Kyrie and not assume selfishness, which I think is what you're doing. I think it's 100% right. I'll give Chappelle. You got leeway with me. You are in credibility. Kyrie has not assume selfishness, which I think is what you're doing. I think it's 100% right.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And that's the leeway I'll give Chappelle. You got leeway with me. You are in credibility. Kyrie has not. Well, it hasn't, right? But the thing that flipped me was not Kyrie. It was Lou Williams. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:37 And I believe Lou because that's a real motherfucker. Who is the guy? There's a story that in Philly, somebody was going to carjack Lou Williams and then recognize it was Lou and Lou did so much
Starting point is 01:13:46 in the community that he was like nah man you're good and you know what he did he said I'm gonna take you to get some McDonald's bro cause the guy just
Starting point is 01:13:52 wanted food to eat incredible so it's like Lou was like we have the ability to focus on this right now let's do it
Starting point is 01:14:00 now the NBA said I think they're gonna give 500 million dollars if they start the season to the cause yeah right now I actually think what is more valuable than money Let's do it. Now, the NBA said I think they're going to give $500 million if they start the season to the cause. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Right now, I actually think what is more valuable than money is attention. Yeah. So I really believe, and I've told this to my friends in the fucking league, and I'm like, yo, honestly, the best thing for you all to do is cancel this season and put all the focus on this. But before you cancel it, make sure there are specific demands that you want met i think if they ask for a specific thing i don't care what the fuck it is it you can end chokeholds body cameras it could be reallocate the police but a specific thing who owns these teams akash billionaires when billionaires get affected by things shit starts to change that's true dog we talked about this last week economic sanction is the only peaceful way to make any change because that economic sanction is violent yeah we were talking about this we're gonna do
Starting point is 01:14:58 this on a piece in a society that values money over human life, and keep in mind George Floyd was killed over a fake $20 bill. So that's money. They were willing to kill this motherfucker over a fake $20 bill. In a society that values money over human life, people do not understand acts of violence towards humans as much as they understand acts of violence towards money. That's why rioting was effective, because they're coming for the money. And when you cancel the season, you come for the billionaire's pockets,
Starting point is 01:15:30 the most powerful, influential people. You get that shit. All of a sudden, they get wind of that, and they're going to go, I'm going to lose how many hundred million dollars this year? What? Nah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I'm calling up my governor. I'm calling up my senator. I'm calling up the police chief. You activate those motherfuckers, you're going to get some real change. And the only way you do that is you come for their fucking pockets. And the only way you do that is you cancel the season. Or you say, we're not starting the season until we get this specific demand met. And don't have to be the end all be all.
Starting point is 01:16:00 It has to be something. Use your leverage while you got it.'s a good point that's the that's what i'll say very rare i agree with kairi on anything that's a good point no you got me flip me make sense al yeah and i agree with you 100 mark i hope they hold out but they can't it's been decided already right so that's the thing that's the thing about lebron i don't think lebron wants to hold out and lebron wants his legacy he wants his ring he wants his ring getting old he's got a good shot this year and this is an interesting time where it's like lebron has done so many amazing things this is where someone like what's the fat black dude that's a sellout what's the name uh whitlock
Starting point is 01:16:40 whitlock this is where you criticize uh leron. Not when he's fucking opening schools. Not when he's doing this amazing stuff for the community. You criticize him where it's like, we didn't hear you talk about anything with China because you didn't want to fuck up the bag, which is reasonable because you can do so much with the bag. You've been so generous with your bag. And now there's a situation where there is an argument to be made
Starting point is 01:17:01 that the best thing to do is use your political leverage right now with the NBA and with these billionaires to actually make change and not start the league so they can pad their pockets with what little time they got left. That's where some might say, yo, that's where your voice should go. If LeBron sat out the playoffs, that would put him in another echelon of athlete, too. That puts him in the Muhammad Ali category. That's Ali. Yeah. And that's the only other guy in that category that's that great and was willing to sit out for something he believed in and who needs the money less who needs it like if lou williams is willing to go
Starting point is 01:17:34 i don't need my check this year fam yeah no but it's not i don't think it's the money it's his body lebron is doing it for his because he's older and he wants a ring oh no 100 100 i understand that but like he can't admit that yeah right like he can't go well i only got two more good years left he gotta say no we can use this money and help the communities and he might really believe that and there's an argument for that please poke holes if you see no i'm just wondering is it possible that the players don't have as much leverage as we think? Like, is it possible that they're contractually obligated? Like, if they sit out,
Starting point is 01:18:08 they lose all their money. Adam Silver's also said, like, Anybody who wants to sit out is fine to sit out. If you're not in breach of contract, sit out. He's been the most supportive. Like,
Starting point is 01:18:18 I know that, look, say what you want about Adam Silver, he's a pushover, this, that, the other. You cannot, as a player, not, you cannot think that this guy doesn't have your back, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 He has been so fucking supportive for this. Even throughout this whole process, the fact that he's like, I recognize if we lives to show that we can be selfish, but also try to push forward the agenda that you're doing. Yeah. So why doesn't he just stop the season? Because he's got to answer to the. He does a good job of because the commissioner works for the owners. That's what people always say about Goodell. You guys misunderstand.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Goodell doesn't work for the players. He works for the owners. Silver does a good job of working for the players and still keeping the players, working for the owners and still keeping the players interest in mind. So he will work for the owners. Hey, let's do this season. We'll make a lot of money. Players, if you're not in breach of contract and you need to sit out, you feel like you
Starting point is 01:19:16 want to sit out, go ahead. And if LeBron sat out, just LeBron, the season might not happen. And that would be massive. Patrick Beverly said that shit he's like if lebron want to play we play and i clowned him for that i was like of course if lebron want to play we play that's how this shit works if schultz wants to change the time of the podcast that's what we're gonna do if charlamagne wants to change it on him that's what the fuck you're gonna do that's the world but that's a good point that if lebron says we're going to sit, shit could change.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And I think it's, and don't sit without getting something out of sitting. Yes. Yes. You know, it's like you go, listen, we are not playing unless, fuck this bubble shit in Orlando. Fuck the COVID this and the Corona that and got to swab everybody every day. Fuck all that. Don't sit unless a demand is met.
Starting point is 01:20:08 What is a specific demand that you can actually change? Make it. Yeah. What's up? I'm just wondering, is there a situation where the owners can be like, no, we can't affect police reform? Yeah, they can.
Starting point is 01:20:21 And they're like, you're sitting out, you're disrupting the league, you're affecting Americans. But what can us as owners do? Use your political political leverage you put money in every one of these politicians you got political leverage right every single election you are putting money in every candidate's pocket and you do that so that you use it now it's time to use it exact change so i'll be honest and i don't know the most of it so i'm just going to talk about it like i regularly do but like they got rid
Starting point is 01:20:46 of undercover cops or at least they're saying they're getting rid of undercover cops in New York. Yeah Al I thought you might be able to I have not heard about this. So they just released toward the bottom that they're getting rid of the undercover cop unit and then it made me start thinking the fuck do we have undercover cops for? Someone make the argument for undercover
Starting point is 01:21:02 cops. Because you have a better chance of infiltrating and noticing crime as opposed to... It ain't your job. Are you talking about the anti-crime unit? Yeah. Yeah. They call it that. See, I thought you might know.
Starting point is 01:21:15 But let's break this down. Why did we ever have undercover cops? That, to me, is the legal closest thing to entrapment. You know what entrapment is, right? to me is the legal closest thing to entrapment you know what entrapment is right it's like where you kind of manipulate someone into breaking the law yeah right uh give me a good example of entrapment uh i try to sell you drugs and then you buy them and then i get i clip you for buying the drugs i'm like no no no just get a go ahead just come on you leave a car with the keys in it and i used to work oh that's right they would do that they'd leave cars in the keys with the keys in it. And I used to work. Oh, that's right. They would do that. They'd leave cars with the keys in it in the fucking hood.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And when the motherfucker take the car, they're like, oh, you stole a car. So I used to work in the courts. I would say 80% of the drug cases that were brought up, they're called buy and bust, which is an undercover cop goes, tries to buy drugs. The moment they sell the money's exchanged for the drugs, boom, four other guys come rushing in and arrest that person. Like almost 80% of the drug cases were buy and bust cases. And that was undercover cops.
Starting point is 01:22:12 So it's like, if that's how they're getting drug deals off the streets, how else can you do it? I think, I think their way, what they're talking about is not just the random person
Starting point is 01:22:24 who acts as an undercover for a drug deal. I think the undercovers that you see walking around with the sweatbands on their arm, that's what you can tell if it's an undercover. They got the sweatband on their arm. And the sweatband changes colors every day, and that's how there's no friendly fire. So it's like sometimes you see an orange sweatband. You see a dude in a regular ass cargo fucking pant outfit, the same like police sneakers and like the Yankee fitted, but they always have a sweatband on one arm. Yeah, I've heard that. And if you see that,
Starting point is 01:22:47 that's how you know it. Now, I think those dudes who are just walking around, you know the dude who would stand by the turnstile? Yeah. Waiting to give you a ticket for jumping his turnstile?
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yeah. It's just like, wear the fucking outfit. Like, why are you not wearing the outfit? Wear the outfit. Yeah, because if you wear the outfit, then they won't do the crime right in front of you.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Exactly. So the crime is still stopped. But now someone who might need you and need your help at least sees you and they can go to you. So you deter, right? So in a way, you could deter less crime. And now it just feels like we're being watched every second. You know, like we all hate those cameras, right?
Starting point is 01:23:20 Those cameras that like give you a ticket for speeding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like we hate them because you're just being, we're being watched the whole fucking time. You create a police state like that. Yeah. That's some low key. Now, listen.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Please look up what the arguments are. The job isn't necessarily to eliminate crime. It is to arrest people. Yeah. That's what it seems like if you're doing the anti-crime. Yo, the job is to protect us. The actual anti-crime is- Not arrest us.
Starting point is 01:23:41 The actual anti-crime is a guy in a police uniform. That's anti-crime. There's no crimecrime is a guy in a police uniform that's anti-crime there's no crime happening when you see a police uniform yeah this is just you do the crime and then we arrest you yeah i gotta i gotta learn more can you look up what the point of it is mark are you looking it up so just piecing it together really quick like basically on like covert operations were used a lot during war yeah so like historically like you send in spies to go like chill with the enemies get intel send it back and then if you need to blow that whole shit up you can like start killing people
Starting point is 01:24:08 from the inside so when we start the war on drugs it's basically like a operation to try to infiltrate drug communities and try to like bust the people slinging drugs like it's a war tactic like it's a war so like it starts on like the 60s when like well i mean it's existed prior to that existed like in london with like uh all like that what is it the ms5 or whatever what's the british uh mi6 mi6 yeah like so it started there but like basically it's a war tactic kind of used during the war on drugs and like to try to like get criminals out of crime ridden communities why using war tactics against your own people they call it a war on drugs war on poverty all that shit i'm telling you these practices it's fucked up here's the thing i get very concerned people and you don't even gas fucking war criminals yeah i get very concerned
Starting point is 01:24:59 when america like america is not good at finishing wars. Right? Like we've been in war constantly for like the last, what, 20 years, 30 years? Yeah. Right? I don't want a war on drugs. To me, a war on drugs is, oh, that's going on forever. I don't want a war on drugs from an American standpoint. I want some shit that we finish.
Starting point is 01:25:21 What's something that Americans do and then it's done? You know? The war on poverty. I don't like this idea of war. How do you kill poverty? Like, stop using that terminology. It doesn't even make sense. I think that undercover shit is low-key absurd, bro. Like, I think it should be illegal that police officers are walking around not looking like police officers.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Of course, we're going to do a little fucked up. Of course, we're going to jay jaywalk like this is part of life we don't want to live in like some uh what is it like russian police state where like you have to be worried about your neighbor snitching on you every second nah bro i mean not to mention like the war on drugs is effectively just like a war on poor people yes i mean like it's poor people like and that was gonna be my question about the anti-crime unit do they tend to go to poor areas they tend to be in poor black areas poor latino areas oh yeah yeah they go to the areas where there's like poor people because poor people are committing crime and in america poor people are typically black like it's the
Starting point is 01:26:17 poor communities that are black so it's basically a war on black people i mean and then not to mention there's the cia involvement in like trafficking drugs into that's another thing it's like how dare you put drugs into the community and then say there's a war on drugs don't get me started on this shit for so long don't get me started on this shit that shit is declassified too it's not even a conspiracy if you look at like cia contra cocaine trafficking yeah like they were just like in at least uh implicitly involved in like bringing drugs into the poor community and my my girl's family friend was one of the dudes who flew the plane really wow he was one of the dudes who flew the plane and he carried around every day
Starting point is 01:26:57 his light a life a note from the president or it was like from the cia that gave him permission for what he did and one time he got picked up by the police and he got sent to jail and for the you were trafficking drugs this at the other he just said call the lawyer the lawyer came in and he said do you have the note and hand that motherfucker the note is this the tom cruise movie nah different guy tom cruise's uh movie was something that's what i thought at first i was like yo you know tom cruise still a lot but um because the tom cruise that guy got right i think he got murked i think he was doing it through like in ohio or some shit like that uh gives him the note um they go to him is this the only copy, by the way? He goes, no, plenty of copies.
Starting point is 01:27:46 They let him walk. Still out today. Wow. So that shit was real. And this is why they did it. Because you go to Nicaragua, because there's obviously that conflict right there. It was like the Contras and the Sandinistas, right? Now you're like, all right, here's some guns.
Starting point is 01:27:59 But we need payment for guns. Well, Nicaragua ain't got no money. So what you going to pay us in? What you going to pay us in? What you gonna pay us in? Yeah. Cocaine. Drugs, right? Now I got drugs.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Fuck do I do with the drugs? I got to sell it somewhere, right? Yeah. That was actually, I saw the 13th of every book. That was my one critique is they didn't mention that. That's a declassified thing
Starting point is 01:28:22 that the whole point is they're locking up black people because that's essentially free labor slave labor and why wouldn't you mention they also pump the drugs into the black community and then threaten more harshly for crack than they do cocaine like why wouldn't you why would you neglect that's a declassified file i heard that 10 15 years ago why don't you put that in the doc because my only like that's weird and i don't think it's a bad i think it's a good documentary. Everybody should watch it.
Starting point is 01:28:45 But I was like, that would have really hammered the point home, right? Anyway. Yeah. What do you think would be the government's incentive to try to disrupt black communities? Like just to keep poor people down,
Starting point is 01:28:56 you think? Or like to try to use race as a way to like get people to fight? That was also what I was, because it seemed like. And then like, I don't think it's just. Racist practices and them not caring about black people you think they targeted black people
Starting point is 01:29:09 specifically yeah because they're racist less people care about black people i think they might have thought the lives they can get away with it i think there's a lot of different things going on right there's like an expand there's so many different layers to it one is an expanding police budget that needs to be justified and justify that with arrests and what are the easiest arrests that you're going to get you're going to go into poor neighborhoods where these people one are not going to be able to fight the crimes like a rich person would right and two where they're going to be involved in more illegal activity because they're going to be doing more illegal things to make ends meet it's just the reality of the matter
Starting point is 01:29:41 you might fucking steal cable none of my rich friends stole cable yeah my poor friends would find a little black box and hook some shit up do whatever it is yeah um that was the shit that was the shit back in the day so yeah so i think but i think there's a bunch of different fucking things you know um yeah you know i think that's just like one facet of it of course yeah you could have the poor people fighting. And we were talking about this yesterday. But you could create that kind of class dynamic. You could control the lower class by having them bicker amongst themselves. Yeah. I mean, who are the most racist people, right?
Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah, poor people. Poor people, right? And of course, because they've been kind of fed that information to justify it. So you have them fight amongst themselves because, God forbid, they come together. Right? They come together. That's a powerful amount of people you make a lot of change those people come together i mean that's what mlk was saying right he was gonna do the poor person's march and they got him to fuck out of here second he was like yo we gotta help poor people second
Starting point is 01:30:36 martin luther king was like yo we gotta help poor people they were like what yeah when it wasn't you got a nightmare you ain't got no dreams When it wasn't just about black people, it was like, no, it's poor people. And Vietnam too. He was like vehemently opposed to Vietnam and they fucking murdered him. Adios. So yeah, there's certain agendas. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:30:54 I thought in terms of that, I thought like, again, based on what I saw on 13th, it was just like, there's that little thing, no slavery unless of course there's criminals or whatever. I think they were just thinking like, all right, well, we need slaves.
Starting point is 01:31:08 These are already people that we kind of look at like that. If we're going to have slaves, that's the easiest person to compartmentalize is like a group of people I've already done that to. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Heavy episode today, boys. All right.
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Starting point is 01:33:31 would you go to the Trump rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma? Akash says yes. Remember, nobody would know that you were there. Your safety was intact. Yes. Just to experience it. I just need to know what's going on in there boom yes boom yeah i would want to go see and experience any historical event that's like
Starting point is 01:33:52 important like regardless of how good or bad it is but why is this an important historical event you haven't got because what's trump getting elected with history trump and we're talking about one specific well this one specifically because all the stuff around it with like juneteenth tul Tulsa, Oklahoma, all that shit. I mean, this is, I agree with you. He moved the date because he's pussy. Right.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Keep going. But like, I would go to- I think that was the intention the whole time. I think he used that as a way to get buzz for it and then jumped the next date. You're giving him an out. That shit is pussy. Keep the date. I give it up to their marketing.
Starting point is 01:34:20 I think their marketing is on point. And also, I think it's like it's really funny the way people reacted to the juneteenth thing because like if he was somebody if he was a politician that you thought was really like respectful of black people and i cared about black people doing on juneteenth you'd be like yo how woke is he he's doing it on the day slavery ended he's going to tulsa oklahoma no no i. So it's like he's doing it in this place where Black Wall Street was burned down. Like this guy is for us. But the fact that everybody's like he's racist, it looks as like it's an antagonistic act.
Starting point is 01:34:53 Does that make sense? So you put whatever your views of Trump are onto the situation instead of just going, this is what it is. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like if Obama did it? You'd be like, yo, he's the wokest, blackest dude ever. He would do this. This is what it is. Does that make sense? Yeah. Like if Obama did it? You'd be like, yo, he's the wokest, blackest dude ever. He would do this.
Starting point is 01:35:07 This is our president. But since Trump does it, it's like he hates us. Yet it's the exact same action. Yeah. So then why would he move the date? But no, but of course you. If his intentions are good, then don't move the date. It is true.
Starting point is 01:35:21 He was like, yo, I didn't know, but there was this thing called Juneteenth. And this thing did happen in Tulsa. Like, he knew, and he was trying to rile up his base. I think that's what it was. I think that it was used. I bet you they rented the shit for both days. I don't think his intention was completely coincidental. Let's go to Tulsa on Juneteenth.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I think he wanted to rebuild Black Wall Street. I think that's his goal. Make Black Wall Street great again. Real talk. Not build a wall. Build a real talk not build the walls bro build a wall he loves yeah but i would go and also go to biden's situation because it's like the same way i look at news i'll watch cnn for a little bit and then i'll watch fox news what if you go to what if when you go to box said this to me yesterday he goes he goes yo he goes he goes
Starting point is 01:36:03 because i'm basically i'm saying this i'm like yo i want to go to i was like yo i want to go to i want to witness it i think it'd be cool to witness it you know uh he goes yo but we got to go to we got to go to biden's too or would you go to biden's too are you interested in going to biden's too and i go nothing would make me happier than to listen to that old man babble in front of 20 000 people and when i say that i'm describing both of them but biden's gonna say crazy shit and trump is gonna say crazy shit i absolutely would love to go experience both of them it is an interesting thing you'd have to make sure your safety was on point because what if you route me in particular
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