Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Westerbros: Game Of Thrones S08E04
Episode Date: May 6, 2019The boys are back! On this episode of the Westerbros podcast, Andrew Schulz is joined by Hani, Marco and Jack to review Game Of Thrones, Season 8 Episode 4. INDULGE!!!...
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What's up everybody and welcome to another episode of Western Bros.
I'm Andrew Schultz. I'm here with Haney. I'm here with Marco. I'm here with Jack.
We got the whole squad back together.
Finally, Game of Thrones has put out an episode worth talking about in a delightful, upbeat manner.
I know initially I got a lot of shit for my takes on last episode of Game of Thrones. Some people came around
though. Oh, the whole world came around.
Everybody thought I was crazy.
First two days and then
Game of Thrones and then HBO started leaking
shit about the episode.
I saw this article in Cosmo
and Cosmo somehow had the
last two minutes of the
episode. And I was like, how
would you get two minutes of it?
No, no, no, no, of episode three.
Cosmo had this article,
like what really happened in episode three
that you might have missed.
And then I'm like, hmm.
So you're saying Cosmopolitan Magazine
is just ripping two minutes of an HBO show
and selling ads on it,
and that's not like low-key placed by HBO
to do a little pr coverage and
there's no way possible and what they said was very interesting they said remember when we were
shitting on john for being a bitch and just hiding behind the rubble the whole time yeah he was on
the move well he was on the move but it was whatever and then all of a sudden he just decides
to jump in front of the dragon just yell the. Just yell at the dragon, right? So what they said was the dragon was actually protecting the entrance to where the tree was and Bran was.
And that's where Jon's trying to go, right?
Wait for it.
So apparently Jon sees Arya.
And when he's looking at the dragon and he's yelling at the dragon, he's yelling, go, go, go to Arya.
Right.
He's distracting.
So he's like, which is a typical Jon thing.
I'm willing to give my life to protect everybody else.
I'm like, okay, that was a good move.
It was just executed extremely poorly along with everything else.
How was it missed?
Like, how did they expect us to get it?
Yeah.
I feel like they're doing it in hindsight.
They're like, no, he said that.
And it's bullshit.
So I will rewatch the episode.
I put the caption on.
He doesn't say go.
He just yells.
Really?
They're just manufacturing
that after the fact
because they're trying to learn.
The caption just goes,
ah!
That would be
a reasonable explanation.
I choose to believe that,
actually,
just to make myself feel better.
Well, I believed it for four days.
I felt great.
And then Alex
just ruined it for me.
But they're doing PR work
because they know how much they
fucked that up. Isn't that
crazy? Protect the image, control the narrative.
What was your take on the episode?
I texted you guys, but then I didn't want
to influence you. I didn't answer because we were about to
record and I was like, I don't want any of
this conversation happening.
But just recap before we... Just by
the way, everybody listen right now. This is Game of Thrones.
We're doing episode four that we all just saw,
but you guys weren't here for Jack's response last week,
so I want to hear what Jack had to say.
It's a lot of the same things that you said.
I just felt like everything I loved about Game of Thrones
was completely...
Was devoid in that episode, for sure.
And like anything,
like any kind of heartbreaking relationship that you have
where you realize it's going to go a different way
than you thought,
I was in mourning after the episode and I was trying to find answers yeah and i was trying
to find someone to blame and i realized the only person to blame is george martin himself
okay hot take he has had not only the eight years that this show has been running he's had like 15
years or something before that whenever the first book came out yeah to finish this series and i
think he got caught up in the fucking fame and the success
and the parties and whatever it is.
And he hasn't finished it.
And now we're all just waiting for it to fucking finish up
when we don't have a true ending.
But he's working with the writers on the show.
He handed over an outline.
But you think because he didn't give them the actual...
His book kind of translates to their script. You think because he didn't have them the actual, his book kind of translates to
their script?
Yeah.
You think because he didn't have that, their liberties fucked it up?
I feel like I really respected these two showrunners as creative storytellers.
Trash.
And then what I realized after those episodes-
Trash.
Suck.
Pussies.
They're just good at adapting material that's already there.
If their source material isn't there, they're not.
Who can't do that?
Right.
Why is that even an Oscar-worthy thing?
Right.
You made something already good, not as bad. Right, exactly. material isn't there who can't do that right why is that even an oscar-worthy thing right you made
something already good not as bad right like also by the way every time you adapt a book it's worse
yeah and there's still an award for that when has there been a book adapt the godfather some people
say yeah who's actually read the godfather book i mean enough people they made a movie there's been
there's been some adaptations, but...
Like in our generation.
I don't know. That's not the point.
The point is that it's rare that the movie is better than the book.
There's a lot of things that goes into that, right?
Obviously, when you're watching a book, you have an expectation...
Not watching, when you're reading a book,
you create what these characters look like in your head.
Like when I was reading Angels and Demons,
and what is the other book?
The Da Vinci Code.
The Da Vinci Code. The Da Vinci Code.
Like Richard Gere was the Langdon guy.
It wasn't dorky ass fucking Tom Hanks.
I was furious.
I was like Tom Hanks is not going to get no pussy while he's trying to decode shit.
I was so pissed off because I had this suave guy with the, you know, what is it?
The silver fox.
The silver hair.
The silver hair.
Dude, I almost saw Richard Gere the other day.
It wasn't Richard Gere, but I was staring at that motherfucker.
I was like, you canceled gerbil fucking dude, you.
Remember that rumor about Gere?
He's friends with the Dalai Lama.
He puts gerbils in his ass.
That was a rumor.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I don't think so.
That's the most believable thing that's come out of Hollywood.
But Cindy Crawford put a gerbil up his ass.
We all do it.
It's not even a question.
That's what I'm saying.
I'd do it with 55-year-old Cindy Crawford put a gerbil up his ass. We all do it. It's not even a question. I'd do it with 55-year-old Cindy Crawford
today.
Anyway, so the point is
episode trash. They sucked at the fucking
storybook. It was just like kind of, I was
defending it the last two seasons. I thought six
was really good. Seven was bad. Seven was
terrible in hindsight. I was really defending it
the whole way through seven when people were complaining about this
exact issue, which is that it was getting away from the books the book fan
the fans of the books were like oh this isn't what we you know thought was going to happen this is
what we're right enough for i was like just wait just wait until basically this episode yes last
week i was like wait until this happens because i was the one who was like holding out on the
white walkers i thought the night king had a whole fucking backstory i know everything that i thought
was going to happen didn't and it was a a fucking, it was like really, really.
Dog shit.
But you blame George R.R. Martin.
Yeah, because it comes down to, he just didn't.
Bro, he's getting pussy for the first time in his entire,
he's a 90-year-old lawn gnome,
and for the first time in his life,
he's able to bang 20-year-old hot chicks.
But the last book was written, I thought, in like 97.
Yeah, yeah.
No, the last book came out, I think,
after that, but the first book came out in like early
90s. He had so much time
to fucking write this shit. Yeah.
It seems like a lot to write, though.
Some real detailed backstories here.
By the way, he said
if the last two books that he's
writing right now were to be adapted
properly, there'd be five seasons of material.
That's what he said, quoted. That would make sense, though.
And so that's why... Why would that make
sense? Because the way everything feels sped up
now. Like, alright, for example...
So wildly sped up. What do you mean?
From how we went from, I guess
it was probably
when the book stopped, John dying,
to how we got here, happened
really fucking fast, in hindsight.
But even that, that's drawn out.
How about just in this past episode tonight,
the relationship between
Jamie and Brienne?
That would be like
a season and a half
worth of material
where they're like
hooking up and dating.
Or Daenerys becoming now bad.
Yeah, but I'm gonna be honest
with you, I like...
All right, let's start.
Let's get into this episode.
All right.
First of all,
Cersei is that bitch.
Cersei deserved that throne, bro.
It's her realm.
She's the smartest motherfucker in the realm.
I'm team Cersei.
She deserves it.
First of all, this little midget better step it up.
Cersei Hive.
Yo, Cersei Hive all day.
Cersei Hive.
Yo, Cersei need to come through with the March of Bane outfits next episode for war.
We stay in our queen, man.
Yo, she need to come through and be like, that was my shit, Beyonce. You stole that shit
from me. No, I've been on that. Real talk.
All I'm trying to say is this.
This episode, this past
episode, I personally love.
Way better. Way better.
But it just goes to show you,
we don't give a fuck about these battles.
You're wasting your money on these battles.
I just care about the game.
I care about everybody outsmarting each other
and the midget needs
to step it up. Because this
whole season they're talking about, you're the smartest guy in the realm.
You were the smartest guy in the realm.
I don't see a lot of smarts here.
He's been drinking a lot. Is that what they're
saying? Is that why he's numb?
He's been bad. Son.
He's been fucking up. Well, he hasn't been on his A game.
They've mentioned that a couple times. And that's the thing that was another part of the thing that's been really. He's been fucking up. Well, he hasn't been on his A game. They've mentioned that a couple times.
And that's the thing that was another part of the thing that's been really sped up,
is that Tyrion went from that guy to fucking Jeff Green, or some scrub off the bench.
Yeah.
Just like, what happened here?
Really?
I don't know what's going on.
And he's totally given up.
Remember there was a moment where he, there was a moment, I forget which season,
when he was like, you know, she is the rightful queen.
She's going to do what's right for the realm, right?
And then there was discussion tonight with Varys, and Varys was like, yo, I protect the realm.
The writing's on the wall.
This bitch is about to go crazy.
We're making the wrong moves.
Cersei's playing games with her.
Like, dude, the way Cersei bodied Daenerys, dude.
The way she bodied Daenerys.
That fucking scene where, I mean, she's just playing into her.
She's just baiting him.
She's baiting her.
She's waiting for her to come with the fucking dragon.
Open the door.
Hey, come on in, baby.
Let's do it.
Let's cook.
I got a lot of poor people that need to be lit on fire.
I can't feed them.
You want to put like them on fire?
Yeah, she just wants it to be her.
She is so ready to turn her into the Mad Queen, and this bitch don't even know it.
She's walking right the fuck in.
Dude, I was...
The problem I had with this episode was the first half.
Well, look.
We got the after party, right?
We had the battle.
The after party was like...
Sorry, it was like...
I thought I was watching a 90s teen movie for the first half hour.
Why?
I thought it was Can't Hardly Wait.
Because everyone's at the party, and they go off and do it.
It was a great movie.
Great movie.
Great movie.
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Dude.
Are you kidding me?
Legend.
Go.
Trip McNeely.
But go on.
I liked it.
Yo, it was a little too much.
I was thinking all the storylines were becoming
real convenient and everyone was
pairing off and doing their thing. It was just
corny to me.
Why did you like it, Andy?
Because Tormund was cooking.
Tormund was cooking?
He was the best.
There was a lot of
some stuff.
In his bag.
When Daenerys gave Gendry like not you know made him a
lord yeah but then that split second you were like is she about to be like your father killed my
family yeah yeah you know you're kind of i was good i was wondering if she was about to
lose everyone right there and be like you're dead um but then it was just a party man well
no no fun little party there was a strategic move that's what i loved about it yeah it was just a party It was just a fun little party It was a strategic move
That's what I loved about it
That move right there
Let me know we're back into the game
We're done with the battles and the fuck shit
We're back into the game
I need some loyalty up north
Because these bitches are not fucking with me
And I'm not going to win over these Starks
They can see right through my fuck shit
So let me get Gendry on board.
Yeah.
Let me get these other people potentially on board.
Smart.
One thing, one thing happens in that, in that episode.
And it's with Jamie, my favorite part of the whole episode.
We found out why Jamie went up there in the first place.
He wasn't in love with this big bitch.
He didn't give a fuck about the North.
He loves his queen.
Yeah.
The whole shit was to protect Cersei and his kid the whole time.
He might have got some pussy,
and the big girl attaches herself to the better angels of his character
or whatever that fucking saying is,
but deep down he's like,
I'm a hateful person.
I'm a piece of shit.
I still think he's going to be
the one to kill her, though.
Maybe.
Maybe.
And then he dies
or something like that.
I have a couple questions for you.
All right, go.
So you think this whole time
he was just,
all right,
I'm going to go help them
win this battle,
but I'm going to come right back to you.
I got to protect.
I protect Cersei.
You think that was his intention
the whole time?
I do now, yeah.
Or do you think at that moment- He said it pretty explicitly. I mean, yeah. I would have killed- I would have killed the man at his word. I protect Cersei. You think that was his intention the whole time? I do now, yeah. Or do you think at that moment-
He said it pretty explicitly.
I mean, yeah.
I would have killed-
I would have killed the man at his word.
I would have killed Riverrun.
I would have killed whatever, right?
He said, I've done all these other things.
I pushed a kid out a window.
I pushed a kid out a window.
I'll do anything for Cersei.
I fucked a six foot six.
I felt that they were trying to imply that, but I felt it was a little ambiguous, and
there's a little room for interpretation that he was just like,
she's poison and I have to go kill her to get rid
of her. Fam, what?
Hold on.
Hold on.
A little part of it is explicit that he was
in love with her and that he too was a rotten person
and this is why they really belong together.
But it's the two sides, right? So he's showing us that he has those two sides.
And I think what happened was
I think he wanted maybe to die in that battle.
He wanted to give it a shot
of being like the noble knight
that would have died
in the Battle of Winterfell.
And now that he's lived,
he's got to confront,
like,
is he going to stay with Brienne?
He tried that,
but you know what happened?
As soon as he heard about
Cersei in trouble,
he can't get over that
need to go,
you know,
join her.
Which I think he's going to be
conflicted with
for the next few episodes
until it comes to that time
when he has to.
Okay,
so there was this guy,
I forget the guy's name.
I wish I could credit him,
but he said,
uh,
he had a great synopsis of the last episode.
He goes,
and why it was dog shit.
He goes,
the,
the,
the,
the,
what are they called?
The,
um,
when you switch the plot,
the plot twist,
the plot twist and game of Thrones used to not only surprise the viewer,
but surprise the characters in the show.
Right.
And last episode had zero surprises for the characters.
It was just...
In a way, the twist was that there was no twist.
Right, right, right.
So this episode, perfect situation, is with Jamie, right?
It surprises us.
Wait, what?
Did Jamie just break bad again?
And it surprised Brian wait, what? Did Jamie just break bad again? And it surprised Brienne.
Brienne.
Right?
The harpoon or the air harpoon or whatever taking out the dragon surprises Danny.
It surprised the shit out of me.
Everybody surprised the fuck out of me, too.
And that neck shot, it was like, finally, we get to see a dragon die the way we want
to see it die.
He died.
Bye.
See you later.
By the way, where's John?
He was a three-bones.
Protect your neck.
Why isn't he riding?
What did he say?
Because he was injured.
Bro, the 16...
Oh, you're the weight of two fleas.
Fuck it.
Oh, shit. I didn't even hear that.
It's a 20-ton dragon.
He can't have 5'8 John on his back
because that would be really difficult.
I could totally see the issue there.
But no, they needed to kill that dragon. It was a convenient
way of doing it.
Even the stakes a little bit.
Now,
is a dragon that effective?
I'm not feeling like they're that effective.
They are, I mean, look,
more vulnerable than they used to be.
Way more vulnerable.
They have all those, what are we going to call them?
Air harpoons?
What are they?
It's also the dragon's weapons.
The weapon that shoots the, what is it?
It's a harpoon.
It's a big harpoon.
The special harpoon.
The harpoon.
Is that what a harpoon is?
I thought harpoons in the water.
It's a spear.
Spear.
Whatever.
The spear goes.
It's a giant bow and arrow.
Fine.
Crossbow.
Giant crossbow.
Giant crossbow.
Giant crossbow.
Let's go with that. Giant crossbow. Giant crossbow. Let's go with that.
Giant crossbow.
Heavy caliber.
Super heavy.
Like a fish.
I actually took out a boat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they improved it from the seasons, right?
Like they had the whole little thing.
They got it all over the place.
No, we're just going to fucking shoot seven at them.
You're telling me it can't hit them?
Kyber's been tweaking it.
It did hit them.
The official name is a ballista.
No, I'm saying when they come back again.
What's that?
A ballista.
Wow.
A ballista.
Oh, the ballista.
Okay, we'll call it a ballista.
Basically, you have the ballistas all over the castle, right?
There's no way Cersei can fly in.
What is she going to do?
It's over.
Like, I don't even see why she brought the dragon that close.
If it was up to me, I would have shot the dragon right there.
I think she was flexing.
Yeah, she's showing off.
That was a flex.
She's bringing the news right up.
Well, you're going to put a little muscle if you're going to keep flexing like that.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, she ended up with egg on her face, but it was an attempt to deflect.
She needed to quit with that flex.
And their previous fight, they didn't have a bunch of them.
They just had one.
Right.
Yeah.
Going in, you didn't know that they made like 40 more.
You didn't know that they were on the boats and they perfected the art while they were
fighting everybody else.
Yeah.
Which was smart.
Yeah.
All I'm saying is, I don't think, like, Tyrion pulled up and he's like, listen, we're going
to spare you. We're going to spare all these people. They don't have to die. And I'm looking at Tyr's like, listen, we're going to spare you.
We're going to spare all these people.
They don't have to die.
And I'm looking at Tyrion like, fam.
You're an underdog.
Yeah.
You got 15 on Sully.
You got the 10 seven points.
Come on, bro.
Did you look at the board?
You got no pieces.
You showed the board, right?
It's not great.
And you got the Golden Company, but you don't even need that.
You just need the ballistas.
Once you take out the dragon, it's over for them, right?
How dumb of it was
Danny to bring the dragon back to that meeting?
It was in the
background, wasn't it? It was in the background.
I would have shot him right then.
My assumption is that
they're just totally out of range. That's just
my assumption.
I'm just going to play a little
If they were out of range, it wouldn't have taken that midget
10 seconds to walk to the gate.
The midget walked to the gate in 10 seconds.
His step gate
is 6 inches.
It would have taken a day.
It would have taken a fucking day for Tyrion to get there.
So we sped it up a little bit.
That's what I'm saying. The dragon's got to be close enough
to hit. I would have taken the shot at the dragon right there
and then chopped off Masada's head.
Maybe, I don't know, maybe it really was 15 minutes for Tyrion to get there.
Dude, Tyrion is so fucking disappointing with these debate skills.
He knows his sister don't give a fuck.
Why is he trying to play into her?
That's Sansa's thing against him the whole time.
She's like, I thought you were smarter than this.
How can you not see it?
I have my problems with Sansa throughout the season, but she's right about that finally he's become like a little bit of like an optimist and
it's not really working in his favor yes he was always the eternal pessimist where does he get
this optimism because of the dragons the moment he credits the moment he saw the dragon that's true
as remember in like season five when he's with um jorah yeah they're going through valeria and he's
like oh shit yeah everything that i thought was like wrong about this world is right yes and he's
been downhill ever since he's been so bad that actually for Everything that I thought was wrong about this world is right. Yes. And he's been downhill ever since.
He's been so bad that I actually, for a split second, was like, is he working with Cersei?
Yo.
But that would be, I was like, oh, that'd be a crazy test.
I was like, but that kind of goes against everything of the history of the show that
we've watched.
Well, you still don't know about that conversation they had in season seven?
Seven.
Seven.
We assumed it was the baby, but it could have been something else.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah And then we still don't know
About the off screen
The off screen conversation
He had with Bran
The night before
I think that was just him
Telling his whole story
They just didn't show it
Oh okay
Unless they were like
Really strategizing
Like the big play
Right
So if that were to happen
Would that be like
Something that would
You'd like or dislike
You find out Tyrion's
Actually
I don't like the off screen shit
Bran said something this episode.
He goes, I mostly
live in the past. Did you guys pick up that line?
I think there's value in that line
and I don't understand why he's mostly living
in the past. No, I think he's sad.
Right? He can't be present.
Because now his presence is... It happened.
He was here to stop this war
and he sacrificed who he was
as a person,
and now it's over, and it's like, where do I go now?
He's realizing what we were arguing.
I'm totally fucked up in the head.
Yeah.
What we were complaining about, which I had a big complaint about Bran,
which is he's just basically his whole character,
the only reason why he is the Three-Eyed Raven
is a device to tell us about Jon's lineage.
That's his only purpose.
In that battle, he just turns to crows.
If he's not going to warg into a dragon, what is his real purpose?
He just is constantly looking back into the past.
He's the record book, I guess.
He's the history book for everything that's going down.
Dude, he's just a peeping Tom.
And that's why he got his neck broken in the first place.
It's like if he would have mined his business,
he just became this character
that gets to just stare at other people
while they do shit.
But he looked like sad.
Like I took that as like when he said-
He's always looking weird.
I just thought that like I live in the past.
He's on the spectrum, guys.
He's on the spectrum.
But he seemed at least leading up to it
comfortable with it.
Like listen, this is who I am now.
I'm totally fucked up,
but like I'm going to do this
because, you know, we got to get to the end here.
But now it's like he's just kind of, the secret's out, and he's sitting there, and he's just kind of like, I mostly live in the past now.
I don't envy you because I mostly live in the past.
So now he's back to being Bran?
Now he's just back to being a guy who's lost his mind.
No, now he's a three-eyed raven.
He's a three-eyed raven, but what's the point?
You don't need a three-eyed raven when?
There's no White Walkers.
Yeah, there's no White Walkers. And so the three-eyed raven was only there to prepare for White Walkers this whole time? Yeah, but what's the point? You don't need a three-eyed raven when? There's no White Walkers. Yeah, there's no White Walkers.
So the three-eyed raven was only there to prepare for White Walkers this whole time?
Yeah, and to tell the Jon story.
That's what I'm saying story-wise.
Not story-wise.
I'm saying within it.
In the world?
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure what the fuck it is.
No, within the world, his importance is being the history of the world.
Right, right.
So there always has to be a three-eyed raven, even if there's no end to it.
Because they maintain this history.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so- He's like trapped. it. Because they maintain this history. Yeah. Okay.
So he's like trapped.
He's just a human version of a library.
Are they fun?
No, they're not fun.
Exactly.
His life's not fun.
Yeah, but I feel like his life wasn't boring or fun.
I think it just was.
I didn't know he had any emotional reaction to anything.
That's true.
So all of a sudden he's sad seems peculiar to me.
I don't buy that. Sure. That's peculiar to me. I don't buy that.
Sure.
That's a good point.
I don't buy it.
So I think I mostly live in the past.
I feel like he's trying to calculate something.
I feel like.
Well, maybe that's a hint because there's a theory,
and this was like a lot of people that were grabbing for the Night King coming back
or there being more meaning to all this.
Yeah.
There's a theory that the time travel element, kind of similar to Hodor,
how he went back and then it affected the present day timeline with him you know what i mean when yes um or sorry
affected the past timeline him getting fucked up and saying hodor was affected by him holding the
door right the same thing might happen uh in a way with the time travel element i'm not saying like
there was another theory that it was like endgame where cersei just kills everyone and then bran has
to go back and Run it back.
Yeah, run it back.
But I don't think they're going to do that.
They can't just do the same thing.
In two episodes.
Yeah.
After this episode, that pretty much squashed that theory.
But there's still a chance for him to affect a lot of shit with like a failed jump into the past or something.
Or into the future or whatever it is.
Huh.
Is it a lock that we see him again in the next two episodes?
Yeah.
I think we haven't seen the end of him.
I don't know if we see Sam and Tormund again and all them.
It felt like we were really saying bye to them.
I think Tormund's out.
Sam, Gilly?
Sam and Gilly, I think, are still in play.
I mean, where would they go?
Also, Ghost, you're going to give Ghost to the fucking Wildlings?
That was weird.
That was weird.
Something was off with that.
That's one reason why I think we'll see Tormund again, possibly,
because he has Ghost. He'll show up with that But That's one reason why I think We'll see Tormund again Possibly because He has ghosts
He'll show up with ghosts
Sounds about right
There's also a situation
Where like
The dragons kind of
Represent the Targaryens
Or like the animals represent
Yeah yeah
Right so like
That dragon dying
Right is like
Oh shit is Jon gonna die
And then he sends away his wolf
And when you lose a wolf
Don't you die as well
Isn't that what happens
With all the Starks
So the dragons
Dragons represent Don't dragons represent No Sansa Isn't that what happens with all the Starks? So the dragons represent...
No, Sansa's dog died.
Yeah, no.
Oh, really?
It doesn't immediately reflect that.
Also, we don't know where Arya's dog is, Nymeria.
No, we saw her.
It's in the wild.
Yeah, but currently she could just pop up anywhere.
Right, right, right.
With the rest of the Direwolf.
Yeah.
Why would he send the thing back?
That's such a weird thing.
Why would you send the dog back?
Because the Direwolf belongs in the north.
It doesn't come south.
It's like that's weird.
So let him stay in Winterfell when he comes back for a little summer vacay.
He wanted to get out and stretch his legs a little bit.
There's no room in Winterfell?
Well, who cares?
It's a dog.
I care.
I've grown attached to this dog.
That's our dog.
Wouldn't you want to see the dog?
But John's not in Winterfell anymore.
He's on his way south.
When you come back, you see the family.
Jon's not coming back.
This was a goodbye.
Jon is saying goodbye to everyone.
I'm going to be in the capital.
It made it clear, this is the last time we're going to see Jon seeing all these characters.
Whether we see them again as the audience, Jon's not coming back.
And Sansa's right.
The Starks, even though everybody's saying he's not a Stark, he's still half Stark.
So it's like, male Starks don't have a good time in Winterfell.
I mean, in King's Landing. They don't come back.
So I think that still is going to
reign true. So Jon's dead?
Yeah, I think so. His dragon's dead.
His wolf is gone.
Or is this Game of Thrones trying to pull
one on us?
This is Jon saying, I'm going down there. We're taking
over and I'm not coming back.
We're setting up shop.
She's going to get on her throne down there and I'm going down there, we're taking over, and I'm not coming back. We're setting up shop. She's going to get on her throne down there, and I'm going to be her right-hand man, and we're setting up shop.
I'm confused if he's still sexually attracted to her.
I don't think he is.
I don't think he is.
They started going.
He was about to undress her, and then he's like, I can't.
Yeah.
That's why he stopped.
The fire's out.
But she's into it.
The fire's out.
Targaryens historically have incest.
They fuck their families. It's totally normal. Not totally normal. But he's a it Because Targaryens Historically have They fuck their families
It's totally normal
Not totally normal
But he's a Stark
So it's not normal
He's a Stark
And he's like
I can't do this
But he tried
He made out with her
For a little bit
And when Varys and Tyrion
Were talking
That's what they said
Right
That's exactly what they said
I don't know
It ain't gonna happen bro
I really don't think
It's gonna happen
He's not into it
Why is he going down
Because he's like Stupid loyal for some reason.
But maybe there's a part of John that knows that this bitch is crazy.
Definitely.
She is absolutely crazy, and she's going to go mad queen,
and John is going to have to save the realm by taking this bitch out.
And dying, maybe sacrificing himself for the realm.
Facts.
The guy can't wait to die.
This motherfucker loves dying.
Yeah.
But I do think she's going to be a mad queen.
She's already.
I think she's already there.
Yeah.
There was a moment where her pupils were fucking dilated.
Did you see that part?
Yo, I thought she was.
Holy shit.
I thought she did a really good job acting.
I thought she was great.
Great performance.
I thought she, like, Amelia.
One of her better performances.
Clark.
Clark.
Yeah.
Great, like, in the scene where everyone's cheering John at the party.
She's upset.
Yeah.
And you just see her, like, going crazy. And then at the end end when even when they were just in the room together and he was she was like
you know i promise me you won't tell anyone like she was like really fucking delivering that shit
like she went like a little girl crazy on him like very believable yeah yeah you know yeah man it's
um well yeah he snitched immediately, bro. Bro, so fast. He's like, you have a choice. He was like, you have a choice.
You have a choice.
You have a choice.
You have a choice.
That's right.
You got him on a technicality.
Yo, Sean, did not tell.
I didn't say shit.
I didn't say shit.
Yo.
Wait, wait, wait.
You got him on a technicality.
He said brand.
Let him know.
He told brand.
Let him know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I made an oath.
I made a promise.
Dude, the knee is still bent.
You really got it.
Yo, there's going to be a scene where Danny's like, why'd you tell us that?
I didn't say shit.
I didn't say shit.
Technically speaking, you keep talking about how I'm short.
Well, sometimes people got to find out.
You know what I mean?
Say, I'm 5'8 again, bitch.
That was amazing.
What about Bran saying the choice is yours?
It's like, what are you going to say after that?
You can't not tell the truth after that.
No, that was like the worst fucking telegraph ever.
You're like, what one's about what?
He's literally said nothing that made sense.
And then all of a sudden, one little tasty treat he just puts out there.
All right, tell it then.
I wish I kind of wanted to see him say it because I wanted to see Aria's face.
You know it was fucked up.
Yo, because their whole life they're like, my dad went out somewhere and fucked some other girl.
And he's not the super honorable man that everyone says he is. Right.
And they just find out, no, he is.
He's the most honorable man.
He was the most honorable man.
So you get to see a bunch of different reveals.
Yeah.
But we don't actually see any of them.
New fate, that's what I'm saying.
I wish I saw.
With this expedited version, you would have saw that
and that would have been a long scene of them going through the range of emotions.
Oh, you're not my brother.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my dad's a hero still.
But the difference is-
Shut it all down.
Unless Bran lied. Unless Bran lied on purpose. No, yeah. Oh, my dad's a hero still. But the difference is- Shut it all down. Unless Bran lied.
Unless Bran lied on purpose.
No, I don't think that's a possibility.
Maybe he has to do what has to be done in order to get to the outcome.
No, because Sansa told Tyrion-
That's a good one.
Get to the end game.
What did Sansa tell Tyrion?
No, because-
We don't know.
And then Tyrion told Varys.
Told Varys what?
That's what I saw.
And Varys was saying, yo, she's his aunt.
Like, they broke it all down.
Here's the thing.
The difference between having it on a rabbit hole right there
and going real deep.
That would have been ill.
That shit would have been ill, though.
We got you.
Yo, Sansa came back quick, too, though.
She did last 30 seconds.
Everyone came quick.
What if Bran was coming?
Thomas E.
You're saying the next person I talk to, it was high school.
That's what Barrett said
That's what Barrett said
What is it
If more than five people
Know it's information
100 people
100 people know it
Everybody in the north knows
They just look at her goofy
Like that's why you lost
That's why you lost a dragon
Stupid
Fuck stupid
But that's the difference
The difference between
Like even two more episodes
Is seeing a lot of those
Conversations that are so
Satisfying that we can't see
Which is like Right if there was If you're saying If there was two more seasons here We get lot of those conversations that are so satisfying that we can't see.
Right.
If you're saying if there were two more seasons here,
we get to see all that play out.
That would be like finale.
Fair enough.
You know what I mean?
Yo, Daenerys resisted the urge to burn it all down.
We don't know yet.
No, she didn't. She saw those ballistas.
When the first dragon died.
Yeah.
Right?
At that moment.
She was about to burn the ships down
and then go burn everything down.
She resisted
Turn around
So now she's gonna go back
And be like
Fuck all you guys
I think she saw the threat
I would still have this
Like
Haney gonna get this point out
Even though he's wrong
Go
Yeah
Get this point out
This is fucking so wrong
It's not even funny
She was infuriated to the point
Where she was gonna make
A very
Stupid decision
Emotional decision
To try and blow these guys away
Even though She was gonna get murked She was about to get Lit the fuck up And then she bailed Cause she was going to make a very emotional decision to try and blow these guys away, even though
she was going to die in the process.
She was about to get lit the fuck up.
And then she bailed because she was like, fuck that.
Because she's not full Mad Queen yet.
She got a little bit of sanity left in her.
And that sanity left in her had her turn around and let all her people die.
That's another fuck shit, right?
It's like she let all of her ships with the Unsullied, with Missandei.
Apparently, there's some more flacky left.
Say what?
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't make eye contact No man He spoke English He was like Yo we out This shit crazy over there bro My bad I was speaking
That goofy language
Real talk
I never fuck with them
I never fuck with them
It was crazy
I don't even know
Why I'm in this outfit
I'm from Highgarden
Why are we even here
Like let's go somewhere else
This is stupid
It's cold
Real talk
Right
We'll resign
Look man
Yeah
I think 100% Mad queen We see next episode Real talk, right? We'll resign. Look, man. Yeah.
I think 100% Mad Queen we see next episode.
And I think that's why Emilia Clarke's been teasing episode five.
She loves episode five.
She loves.
She's like, what'd you say? Get a big screen or something like that?
Yeah, get a big screen.
It's her favorite episode of the show, blah, blah, blah.
If this bitch dies and that's why she's promoting it? No, I think
it's going to be, I think, big battle
next week, maybe fall of Cersei,
but I think the last episode's about
taking down Daenerys as the Mad Queen.
So you think Cersei goes next week,
fam? Maybe, maybe. It's going to happen. I get it.
What else is going to happen in the next two episodes?
I want Cersei to have it. I think Cersei
deserves it. I agree. I think that maybe
everything we wanted last week, we're going to get next week.
Oh, Jamie's out.
We're not getting everything we wanted.
That's long gone.
What you mean?
What you mean?
I wanted Night King.
We're not going to get any more Night King.
What did you want from Night King?
I wanted so much more shit from Night King.
At least one move.
I wanted one move.
I wanted a whole...
Look, Night King might as well have been General fucking Snoke from Star Wars.
Stinks.
Trash.
Just cardboard cut out of a villain.
He just wants to destroy mankind for the sake of destroying mankind.
No dimension.
The reason why we love Game of Thrones is because we get introduced to characters is one thing.
And then throughout the seasons, we find out that there are other things.
Something else.
Every single character is different than we were originally introduced to them.
The Night King, I thought, was going to have, like, maybe he's a Stark.
There was a theory that he was going back into the crypts to get his wife, who was like a dead Stark.
Or like some crazy shit like that.
He's just there to be a big bad.
Yeah.
And he's not even a big bad.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Can we acknowledge one thing that was kind of cruel of the Game of Thrones producers,
at least, is to do the Gendry, Arya kiss scene, and then immediately follow it with the Brianne Jamie kiss.
What do you mean?
The Aria kiss scene don't bother me.
Say what?
No, we're already past that.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Nah, bro.
I'm not into it.
She's too tiny.
He has to literally like fold in half to go down there and kiss it.
It feels weird.
It feels weird to me.
But it wasn't as weird as the Brianne and Jamie thing.
Well, Jamie got to go up on his tippies, bro.
That was wild.
That was wild.
He got fucking Amazoned. He his tippies, bro. That was wild. That was wild. He got fucking Amazon'd.
He did. He did,
bro. He went for it.
Dude, it was
literally a moment. He had his fucking legs on.
He had to go up. He had to go up.
She picked him up, saddled him,
took him to the bed, bro. Yeah.
Let's do this. That's why he switched
sides. The pussy was strapped.
Yo, real talk. I wouldn't fuck like that again.
Yo, remember when Tyrion asked if she had a big pussy?
Tyrion's like, how is she down there?
No, he specifically said, does she have a big pussy?
He's trying to find a place to hide.
That's exactly it.
He didn't say, does she have a pussy?
He goes, how is it down there?
What else you mean?
Yeah.
Like, real talk.
Fam, it was probably fucked if she had a dick.
Yo, what if she just...
Monster clit, though.
Dude, absolutely, bro.
Chop that down with some Valerian steel.
Sopping wet.
That's what she was for pomade.
That's why her hair's been back so good.
She'd been waiting so long for that.
Fucking Renly was her dude before that.
Why was this so shocking that she's a virgin?
There was this thing, you're a virgin?
Yeah. Yeah. Because she's old. Because she's a virgin? There was this thing, you're a virgin? Yeah.
Yeah.
Because she's old.
Because she's a grown woman.
Yeah, that's why it's not shocking.
She's very grown.
She's big.
Who's going to chop that tree down?
That's a big thing to do.
Who's going to fuck them?
It's cold out there in those streets, man.
Everyone will fuck anything.
She's not a wild thing.
By the way, Where did all these hot
Thirsty northern girls
Come from
Yo Santa was pimping
Santa was pimping
Legit pimping
Yeah
They came out of nowhere
And they're just
Hitting on everyone
They were in the crib
Solid
They've been in the crib
Keep the whores in the crib
Those are winterfell minds
Keep the whores in the crib
Bro absolutely
They look like Gilly
Without the neck
Yo they finally
Acknowledged that Gilly
Has just I thought she just Gained a bunch of weight She's pregnant I guess the actress. They finally acknowledged that Gilly has just...
I thought she just gained a bunch of weight.
She's pregnant.
I guess the actress is really pregnant,
so that's why they had to...
Thank God, because we've been making fun of her.
She's a real pregnant person?
Now I feel horrible.
Yeah, they had to explain it because she was so big.
Yeah, she was beautiful to me the whole time.
Yo, I feel horrible, B Yo, we might not have brand name
Nah, dude, you can't make fun of pregnant women
That was crazy, dog
Listen, I wasn't here
They're moms, bro
They got children coming out, bro
That's nuts
That was fucked up
Can you believe
Dude, the things we were saying about her fucking neck.
You said it's Gilly with the gills.
What?
You called her a stork?
Yeah, she did look like a stork.
Gilly with the gills.
She had a cow's own neck.
Gilly with the gills.
Yeah, dude.
It was.
Oh, man.
Now, we were really leaning in, but it was only because I thought.
It was only because I didn't know she was pregnant.
I thought she was an actress making awesome. I've never seen an actress get fatter as they
got more famous.
That's a puzzling thing.
Usually the issue is like, you look good, usually you get famous.
You start doing coke.
And then you start doing coke, you start like getting in shape, you get a dietician, you
get all this shit.
I don't know.
And then we see her this season and her fucking neck.
And she had Thor's fucking fat suit on.
Bro!
Who's the Scottish guy in the, what is that movie?
Braveheart?
No.
No.
Scottish?
Rob Royston?
International Man of Mystery?
Austin Powers?
Yeah.
Fat Bastard.
Fat Bastard.
That's what her neck looked like, bro.
I believe you called her Fat Bastard.
I did?
Yeah, you did.
I didn't mean it as the character.
I just thought she looked like a fat bastard.
But I didn't know she was pregnant character. I just thought she looked like a fat bastard. But I didn't know she was pregnant.
Then I would never say that.
Because it's beautiful when women gain weight during pregnancy.
Because it gives life to the kid.
And then hope she loses it afterwards.
I mean, you would hope that she'd get a little snapback game.
Sam ain't helping.
You know, water and fucking...
Sam ain't.
Yeah, Sam ain't helping.
Right?
Sam ain't...
Shall we have some biscuits again?
Would you like some more biscuits, guys?
Sam is just getting enabled, bro.
That should be the spinoff.
It's just both of them just rolling around Winterfell.
These two fucking beach balls.
No, is he going to...
Where's the Tali's from?
Say what?
Is he going to...
He's like the last Tali, right?
So does he take his castle? Wait, is it Highgarden or is it... No, Highgarden is where Lannister's from? Say what? Is he going to... He's like the last Tully, right? So does he take his castle?
Wait, is it Highgarden or is it...
No, Highgarden is where the Lannisters are from.
Is that Riverrun?
Hang on, hang on.
Is it Riverrun?
Oh, no.
No, no, no.
No, Riverrun is the Lannisters.
Highgarden.
Highgarden wasn't where like...
Highgarden was the Tyrells.
Where's Margaery?
The Tyrells.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Tyrells.
Yeah, that was Tyrells.
And the lady that killed Joffrey.
Yeah.
What did the Tullys have?
I can't remember the name of the town, but yeah, we've seen it before.
We went there.
So he goes back there?
Why is he going back?
Why isn't he fighting?
I don't know.
I don't know where he's going.
He's got to pop off still.
No, he's good.
You think that he doesn't have to do any more?
We got more fighting to do.
No, he's going to become the maester, the grand maester.
You think?
Yeah.
He's going to the library.
He sounds like he's retiring early.
He's going back to the Citadel.
Okay, is that what he's doing?
So he's going to the Citadel.
I thought that's what Daenerys was saying when she came in before she dropped yeah
the bomb that she killed his uh dad and brother she was like oh you're gonna be she hinted at it
i can't remember exactly what she said but she said oh you'll be reading a lot or something like
that back to law school yeah okay okay and how are they going there i don't know if they're going
there right now i think john was just saying bye to them.
They might be staying at Winterfell for an hour, no?
That's probably right.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I don't know.
It was happening so quick.
That's the thing.
It's like I have to rewatch these episodes like three times because there's so much shit
that happens too quick.
And I'm like, oh, what the fuck happened?
Okay.
So what do we have in store for next week?
What do we think is going down?
What do I want to happen or
what is the disnification of what's going to happen which seems to be what is happening now
in the show i don't know what you just said bro but you got to give us one of those
i said disification disnification like it's oh like disney the disney version oh okay yeah yeah
how who dies the disification yeah I just made up a word.
Yo, real quick though,
watching Masande die like that
does make me feel a little bit better
that more of the main characters didn't die
on the last battle
because it was actually just a little bit more,
I don't know if poignant is the right word.
Yeah, but don't you feel like that should have happened
like three times in the last episode?
Don't be insecure about your vocab
when he's busting these words out.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't make him question yourself, bro.
You put on dis-certification and now you don't know what poignant means?
Come on, man.
No, but it was like-
You're a college grad out here, dog.
It's better.
It was a while ago.
Whatever.
No, no, no, no, no.
Say it.
But it was better when like watching her die at the hands of Cersei.
If you had watched Afton Kast.
More dramatically than just, like, some, like, dead guy poking her in the face.
I loved it.
You loved it?
I loved it.
Loved it.
And it was old Game of Thrones.
For a hot second, I thought that maybe she was going to pull the face off and it was
going to be Arya.
That would just be ridiculous.
I know.
But that's what I...
By the way, I still have a theory that...
Arya needs to just
murk someone
that no one knows about
and then just wear their face.
She might do that with Jaime.
What if Jaime dies?
I was hoping she did it
with Bran in the last episode.
That's what we were saying.
Kills.
Yeah, we were talking about that
in one of the past episodes
where we think that Arya
could possibly put use...
Because what is the...
Yeah, the prophecy.
The prophecy is that
her younger brother, Jaime,
is like a minute or two younger.
But that's a book prophecy that book readers have shared with us.
It's never been said
on the show.
I think he said all the other prophecies, like your kids
are going to die, but he didn't actually say
that one. And then all the book readers
are like, oh, wait, wait, he missed one.
I thought they said it on the show, but one thing we know about Game of Thrones
is prophecies come true. Every
prophecy has come true so far.
Every single one, except for the ones that are still,
we're still waiting to finish.
Except with the Red Witch.
She was, she was, she went cold.
She went 0 for 7 to start the game,
and then she got back in it.
Yeah, but it still came true.
True.
She just didn't.
Some things.
She just was following the wrong one.
Right.
But Azor Ahai still happened.
Just a little, a little kid had to get burned to death
before she figured it out, but it's fine.
She made a lot of mistakes
on the way.
Don't we all?
Yeah.
Did you guys see the video
of the Lua Mormont chick
breakdancing?
Yo, that was crazy.
Wait, what?
I saw you put that out.
Was it any good?
It's apparently not her.
And it didn't look like her.
What do you mean
it didn't look like her?
It looked exactly like her.
What are you talking about?
It was her.
You thought that it
didn't look at it like her? Yo, man, have you It was her. You thought that it... Wait, you thought it didn't look like her?
Yo, man, have you ever watched the whole video?
I don't know, but it didn't look... How could it look...
I'm confused.
You looked at that video that...
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
With human eyes.
That literally the entire internet looked at and thought looked like her, and you were
like, no, that's definitely not her.
Like, she was the same size person, but a different face.
No, no, no.
Keep on going with the similarities, because I want to see where they stop. Same size person. Same size person. What about different face. No, no, no. Keep on going with the similarities because I want to see where they stop.
Same size person.
What about hair?
Hair's similar.
Hair's the same.
What about complexion?
White skin tone.
White skin tone.
Right.
That was it.
Pretty much what makes a person a person.
That's racist.
Why?
That's like saying everyone with the same.
But why would you think it was not her?
Because the face didn't look like her. While she was was doing head spins you could get a good look at her face
guy's out of his mind yeah you know she was doing a helicopter right you saw her face for a fraction
of a second okay was it determined that it was her no it wasn't her. You're right, but there's no reason why... Oh, it wasn't her? No, it wasn't her.
I didn't see the shit. No, no, but let me get it up.
Go, pull it up and tell me you're like, oh, that's a dead ringer.
Son, he's insane for
like, bro, it looked
just like her, bro. If I would have saw it without him
saying whatever, however
you prefaced in your tweet, I would have
thought, I wouldn't have thought it was her.
But the fact that he said it made me go back and be like wait is that her no no it's not her okay
hold on let me get this up y'all could judge the fuck out of haney
name it oh no i don't know it's probably deep in there but the video looked just
like this poor girl break dancing i'm thank God she's out of here
huh oh here look at this tell me that doesn't move so I don't know how you
thought that it didn't look like her it is her but it's not like a blurry face
yeah she's nasty bro It's not her?
It's not her.
Then what was the point of the post?
Everybody thought it was her.
It was like a timely viral thing.
Yeah, the whole thing went viral.
There's a reason why it was posted today.
Yeah.
Actually, I don't know when it came out.
I think it came out during the week.
There's a reason why it was posted during the week.
Yeah.
Wait, why?
Oh.
Oh, it's just like timely viral.
You think it was planned?
I think it was like Game of Thrones.
We got to get a Game of Thrones post out there.
So she looks like Lady Mormont.
Let's put it up.
For what reason?
To keep the convo going?
Lady Mormont's having a moment right now.
Yeah.
Big moment.
She just died last week.
In the goofiest scene maybe ever.
I hated that shit.
Me too.
When she charged it.
The whole, by the way. The giant giant is going, what did I kill?
I'd like to get a closer look at what I just killed.
You've never done that in the entire season, the entire series.
Not to go back.
I had so much shit.
But they come out with this release like three months ago saying it's the biggest battle in film or TV history.
I'm sorry.
It's fucking not.
Yeah, it was not.
I don't know.
Endgame was bigger, better.
Didn't Lord of the Rings have like a bigger one?
Yeah, they had so many.
And you could see them.
Yeah.
I couldn't see 60% of what the fuck was going on.
I didn't mind that aspect of it.
Come on.
I like the whole fog of war.
It's confusing.
You don't know what's going on. It's not that confusing, dude.
It's not that confusing.
I would have liked to see it. Somebody put on Reddit the Dragon Fight slowed down with the quality of your TV, I guess,
improved in some way and they made it lighter.
And it looked pretty cool.
There were some cool things that happened.
They had to slow it down?
So they slowed it down and then they made it lighter.
No, no.
We're not arguing whether it was a poor decision by HBO.
We're saying this is what happened.
They fix it.
Somebody on Reddit, a nerd, fixed it.
And then what happened in the scene, like you see the dragon like dig his claws into
the other dragon and like tear open his chest.
Yeah, you can see that on the real one.
I didn't see any of that shit.
You got hainy vision?
How the fuck did you see this shit, bro?
Lights off.
I didn't see nothing, bro.
I didn't see any of that.
Dude, it looked like it was-
You guys saw every light off.
Fam, it looked like a vape video.
That's what it looked like.
It looked like someone was doing vapes.
I saw him clawing his chest out.
Yeah, I saw that.
Did you see him bite his face off?
Quickly, yes.
You are lying, bro.
I'm not lying.
You are lying right now.
I saw that whole fight.
Might be lying.
I'm not lying.
There's no way.
I didn't see any of that.
I didn't know what dragon was fighting what.
No, no, no.
Yo, he was winning. Absolutely not. When did you watch it? Regal was winning. When did you watch it? I watched it see any of that. I didn't know what dragon was fighting what. No, no, no. Yo, he was winning.
Absolutely not.
When did you watch it?
Regal was winning.
When did you watch it?
I watched it the night of.
Oh, okay.
Because I think they...
I had all the lights off in the crib.
Yo, allegedly that day improved it.
Allegedly.
If you watch it, it's better.
Interesting.
If you watch it on one of the apps, like HBO Now or HBO Go...
Is it a little brighter?
It's a better quality because the TV compresses the quality
down a little bit and reduces a little bit oh that's a good call so all this I
saw that this week too so like if you watch it on the app then maybe the first
ass is them playing catch yeah yeah that's nonsense
really I was really just you know in misery you know cuz the show was in like
go conversation of greatest shows ever.
Oh no,
it jumped the shark.
I think it's-
And now it's like-
I don't think it's ever
going to be what it was
in my eyes.
One thing this episode
that I really wanted to see,
when Tyrion jumps in the water,
I just wanted to hear
the sound,
doink.
Tell me,
that wouldn't have been perfect, right?
You know that's going to get edited.
They got to make that video, right?
He just jumps in, doink, like a little drop.
It would have been perfect.
And then just to see him crawl stroke with his little arms, like how did he get back?
It was a real awkward swim scene with him getting in.
I don't think he can swim really.
Oh, I didn't see any swimming.
They were swimming?
He jumped in. It was like an awkward jump off. I don getting in. I don't think he could swim really. I didn't see any swimming. There was swimming?
He jumped in.
It was like an awkward jump off.
I don't know.
I don't love it.
I'm saying how he ended up on shore.
Oh, no.
He just, someone dragged him.
Varys dragged him.
I thought Varys dragged him.
I actually liked the filming of that scene.
Though the filming was cool until he doinked it.
But after the doink, you don't see what happened in the water?
I saw Varys take a swim.
I thought Varys was like low-key a good swimmer. Why? I don't know. Because in the water? I saw a varus next to him. I thought a varus was like low-key a good swimmer.
Why?
I don't know.
Because he made it?
Yeah.
Because he's Canadian?
No, because he made it to the shore.
Oh.
You know how swimmers all shave all their body hair and shit like that?
Varus is completely straight. Yeah, so he was doing laps.
Extra buoyant.
That's what he does for exercise.
He was ready for this thing.
He's got like a sick onesie.
With like the straps. He's got like a sick onesie. With like the straps.
He's got the cap.
Finally, I can be of service.
Did we talk about the Bron scene though?
Oh!
Like a sitcom.
He came in and out.
It was like Kramer coming in.
It was great.
I loved it.
Do we see Bron again?
Yes.
He's going to come in and save someone at some important moment.
He's going to end up saving Tyrion
I don't think so
This is my theory
My theory is he comes in and saves Tyrion
because he's trying to act like he's a dick
and he doesn't care and everybody's fucked me over
Deep down he does fucking care
and he's going to do it
and then he's going to end up with his castle
and maybe if there's one guy that gets a happy ending
it's Bronn
but he had some bars in that
scene. I just felt like
there should have been a live audience for that scene.
Like, ooh, ah, and they're all laughing at his scene.
Bro, I was crying. I liked it. When he walks
in, they applaud, and when he walks out, they're like, oh.
Wait, you didn't like that scene? It just felt rushed.
I wanted more time with them, and it felt very condensed
into a sitcom-y level. Bro, I thought it was
hysterical. And the bars,
when he's like, you broke my nose.
He goes,
I've been breaking noses
since I was your size.
I don't know if it's a broken nose.
That dude was fucking great, man.
It was so good.
So like,
what I liked about it
was that he, to me,
I'm not saying that you're wrong.
I can see what you're saying happens,
but he didn't in that moment
feel conflicted at all.
No.
He was ready to murk him.
I'm a business guy.
And I like that
that's the direction they took.
It was like very direct. Yeah. But I think when guy. I like that that's the direction they took. It was very direct.
Yeah.
But I think when push comes to shove, though, he's going to go.
I think when push comes to shove.
I don't think you see him until the last episode of the series, and he's like, hey.
So he's going to one of them.
You're alive.
I want my castle.
No, no.
Before that, he's going to.
And they're like, here are the keys.
Go ahead.
Before that, there's going to be an arrow.
Kill someone from off screen. And you turn, and are the keys, go ahead. Before that, there's going to be an arrow, kill someone from off screen,
and you turn and you see it's Bronn.
And he's like, all right, now give me my money.
Because he's saying, I'm staying away from the fight.
But you're not staying away from the fight.
So you think he's fighting?
Absolutely, bro.
Probably next episode.
He wants to smoke.
I have no idea what they're going to do.
I could see him not showing up.
Also, his life seems pretty good.
What is this castle thing?
He has money, right?
He has a nice house?
Well, now he's getting high guard.
You're like 60.
You're fucking three hookers and you're still not happy?
He's a millennial.
Low-key ambitious.
No, he's not ambitious.
He's entitled.
You're alive.
No, no.
He's done so much.
He's got a lot to get there.
He saved all the leverage against the dragon blast. He saved Jamie against the Dragon Breath.
He saved like every Lannister except for Cersei.
Yeah.
Okay.
A lot of people done a lot of saving.
He came from nothing.
He got a little bit of money.
Then he got a little bit more money than that's all those people.
He did more than Unsullied?
He did more than Grey Worm?
No, but he finessed it.
What I'm saying is he made deals with liars.
He won a trial by combat.
He won a trial by combat for Tyrion.
Yeah.
But he's supposed to win.
He's a fighter.
So is the other guy.
But why is he?
But he played the game the right way.
All Grey Worm wanted to do was take his bitch to Mykonos.
Not going to happen.
That's it.
Not going to happen.
This guy wants a castle.
Can we acknowledge there's a difference in entitlement between Bronn and Grey Worm?
You don't get what you don't ask for?
Yo, yo, yo.
I think he knows what he's deserved. You're saying that Grey Yo, yo, yo. I think he knows what he's deserved.
You're saying that Grey Worm still got the slave mentality?
He knows what he's owed.
He's not willing to feel like he owns some shit?
No, but you use your leverage in your negotiation, and he's got a lot of leverage.
Grey Worm didn't have all the leverage when he sent all his boys out to kill the fucking-
No, because he's already a sponsor.
He was-
That's not how it-
So Bronn, the fact that he's not sworn to anybody, he's got a little-
No, he was indebted to Daenerys. The Lannisters are indebted to Bronn. Yeah fact that he's not sworn to anybody. He wasn't indebted to Daenerys.
The Lannisters aren't indebted to Bronn.
And he knows it.
By the way, they keep bringing up this golden company debt.
Have you noticed this?
There's a line that they dedicated to it in this episode.
They're like, and the debt to the gold company.
They had to buy them.
Right, but the debt keeps rising, right?
It's like, I forget who said it.
No, no, no, no, no, no. Not just the interest, right? It's like, I forget who said it. It's probably who got interest on it.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Not just the interest, but I think it was Tyrion.
Somebody said it.
Maybe it was Varys, but they said something like, and the debt is skyrocketing.
His debt is going crazy.
I feel like that could play.
But that's always going to talk.
Well, she paid off.
No, no, no.
That's the Bervosi.
She paid off the bank, and then-
Bervosi bank, yeah.
And then they-
The Iron Bank.
They had to then loan her the Golden Army to fend off Daenerys.
She's all in on the Golden Army.
She's all in the Golden Army.
She bought that whole shit.
But why would they keep bringing that up?
Like, there's a reason to put that line in.
You don't need that line.
Because whoever's going to inherit the throne has to deal with the debt, right?
Is that the case?
No.
Hold on, hold on.
Actually, no, that's not the case because the banker, there was a scene, remember, where
the banker was like, I have to place a bet on who I think is going to win.
Yeah.
So if his team loses, the other team doesn't have to pay that.
That's fair.
So could there be a situation where someone gets Tyrion?
That's it.
The way Tyrion makes his move is he goes to the Iron Bank.
This is how he redeems himself.
He goes to the Iron Bank and he says,
hey, Shorty doesn't have the money to pay you back even if you win.
She doesn't have any people there to make money.
She doesn't have any attachments to anything else.
She might be sitting on that throne.
This is a good one.
But it's absolutely worthless because if nobody believes you're the one
or everybody's dead, what are you really the queen of, right?
You basically invested in someone who is guaranteed not able
to pay you back. Matter of fact, she's ready
to have Danny walk in
and light all the people on fire that were about to
work for free so that debt could get paid back.
Are you sure you want to keep the golden company
with her? That's an excellent theory.
That's how Tyrion redeems his
fucking self.
And you know what? He got a fire lit under his ass
because he just fucked up this debate.
Not debate.
He fucked up this negotiation
and Missandei got killed
so he's ready to start cooking.
He realizes there's no way.
This moment is where he realizes
there's no way he could possibly level
with his sister.
Maybe he thought there was a little bit
because she was pregnant
and he knows how much he loves the kids.
But in this moment,
they're like,
oh shit,
she's willing to let even the kids die.
There's no way I can negotiate with her.
Time to get back to my smart midget shit i'm going out to the iron bank and
i'm renegotiating this debt it's an excellent theory the only problem is is that bravos is on
the other side of the world where i'm i'm gonna be impression would take months for him to get
there yeah but we've seen them travel like i don't think travel is the issue and if they really need
to he sends a raven i don't know what about What about that drag on? He's got to have a negotiation.
It's got to be something.
That drag on, bro.
He's got to meet with the Iron Bank guy at some point.
We've got to drag on.
Matter of fact, you've got one dragon.
Matter of fact, the golden company's there.
There should be a rep.
You don't think the golden company's going to have a rep?
That could fulfill the whole Targaryen.
See, here's the problem.
This is cool theory.
I feel like they're not even going to...
I feel like because we're at... It's too long to spell it out. This is cool theory. I feel like they're not even going to... I feel like because we're at...
It's too long to spell it out.
This is the problem I'm having.
I'm hesitant to buy into any theories now
after last week.
But the way they would do it is
he goes to Daenerys.
I know somewhere we can go.
I know a conversation we can have.
They just go.
It all happens off screen.
You don't actually see the conversation happen
when the battle actually starts.
Golden Company, instead of going that way,
goes this way, fights Cersei,
and then you realize after what happened.
So it's a thing that happens,
and screen time is like two minutes.
Yeah, no, I'm not worried about the time.
We've seen them travel.
They went from Winterfell to King's Landing.
Time isn't the issue.
Dragonstone, you know, so...
Time isn't the issue. The issue is... you know, so. Time isn't the issue.
The issue is actually there's no issue.
I really think this is, why would you not?
Listen, they said crypt.
They said crypt.
It's legit.
Right?
They said crypt.
They said crypt.
And then something popped off in the crypt.
We all predicted it, but something popped off, right?
Now they're doing debt.
They're doing debt.
You don't have to say debt.
You don't have to bring up debt at all.
And we know that the Iron Bank has zero loyalty
besides to money.
They spent a lot of time in previous
seasons going through the Iron Bank.
How does Tyrion convince them
that
Jon Stark
and Dany can pay them back? With what money?
Do they have gold?
What do they have?
They're going to...
I mean, they're the best
chance to have to get paid anything.
But what does he do to save? There should be some way.
He's got to give them something.
I'm trying to think of anything that's been planted so far.
Does he give them a dragon?
I mean, it's not like having a dragon does anything.
Does he maybe barter instead, like he turns Slaver's Bay back into Slave Land?
Hold on a minute.
Oh.
What are these wind noises that are happening?
This is the dragon scene.
And the Breaker of Chains is going to put them chains back on.
Right back on.
And she wants the throne.
So now she has to go back
against everything she's ever wanted.
Ever wanted.
Everything she ever promised
to get that throne
and it proves
that she is just as power hungry
as any other sociopath
that has sat on that throne
in the first place.
She's going to make a political decision.
She makes a political decision.
He goes back and he says, you can have your slaves back.
Whoa.
And you know what that's big money for?
Big money.
That's big money.
Big money.
That's enough money to pay back a debt, isn't it?
Rich, rich.
Rich, rich.
Yep.
Yo, I love you guys and I love this theory.
I just don't want you to get hurt again.
Yo, nah.
I'll tell you what.
I'm already empty.
I'm already dead.
You can't take me past you.
I'm Sansa.
I'm End credits.
I'm on the end credits.
I already see the whole episode.
I'm not going to lie.
I think we just predicted this shit, B.
Let's go.
I'm not going to lie.
That ending is so much better
than whatever ending
is actually going to happen.
Real talk.
Exactly.
And now I'm just pissed off.
It's so much better
than whatever ending
is actually going to happen.
And then Tyrion gets to be
a fucking hero again.
Not this stupid bitch he's been this entire episode. HBO, exactly. And now I'm just pissed off. It's so much better than whatever ending that could have happened. And then Tyrion gets to be a fucking hero again. Not this stupid bitch he's been this entire episode.
HBO, hit us up.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Smoke is free.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hodor.
Hodor.
Hodor.
Ready?
Wait for it.
Okay, here we go.
In the conversation between
Cersei and Tyrion
does Cersei say
that the gold company
or the golden company
is coming?
yeah
then she's like
I was told there would be
elephants
remember?
but is Tyrion
no no no
does Tyrion know?
you mean in the sit down
right when
he finds out she's pregnant
he comes back to the council
says that she's gonna
support them
and then she doesn't.
Yeah.
Yes, they reference the debt because he used to manage.
Tyrion was the master of coin.
He used to manage.
He was the master of coin.
He took over for Littlefinger.
So they reference the debt right there in that scene between the two of them?
Sure.
That's it.
He knows, and this whole time.
And they know that the Lannister caves cannot anymore gold no more
he knows that he knows they've been empty
son this is it we just
fucking predicted the end of Game of Thrones
I almost want to start the podcast
episode at the end
holy shit
dude there is a legit
look look look I'm not saying
and I know Jack you have this
I know listen because you were invested.
You were more invested than all of us, okay?
I see how broken you are by this.
I see it.
I see it, and it's okay.
I can't fall again.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Tyrion is the first name that you see when this show pops up, right?
That's because he won an Emmy.
Fair enough, but he's the first name you see.
He's got more screen time in this show than any other character.
No, Tyrion's always been, actually from the beginning,
he's like the audience's surrogate character.
So he kind of is.
And I feel like George Martin.
In a way, he's the star.
George R.R. Martin sees himself through Tyrion.
Now, do you really believe that George R.R. Martin or HBO
or anybody else who's involved in the creative of this show
is going to let Tyrion go out like a bitch?
I think that... No. I can't trust the two
showrunners. No, no, no. If there's anything we know about
nerds, the little people
end up killing it at the end.
The hobbit.
The Lord of the Rings.
It's always the midget. Those little
midgets in the fucking... The other
dragon one with all the gold.
They're hobbits. Look, whatever you want to call them.
All I'm saying is the little people end up winning.
And this little guy.
They very rarely lose.
They don't lose.
Never.
They don't lose.
In Return of the Jedi?
What about Wizard of Oz?
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Oompa Loompas.
Oompa Loompas. Oompa Loompas.
They had it good.
Great life.
You get to eat fucking sweets all day.
Who doesn't want to eat sweets all day?
It's four of us staring at a Snickers ice cream bar that we haven't even touched.
They're floppy now.
Guys, I think we made the...
I think we predicted the end of it.
It's a hell of a thing.
It's the best theory.
And whether they do it or not, I feel comfortable saying it's the best theory.
Because it's the best theory, it's not going to happen.
I wrote the best version of this show.
Yeah, that's it.
We did it.
Okay, so let's figure.
We have a couple other bows to tie up, even with this situation.
Let's predict the end of this fucking show right now.
Let's do it right now.
Let's say Ghost of the Iron Bank makes that negotiation.
can show right now. Let's do it right now.
Let's say Goldstein Iron Bank makes that negotiation.
Okay? We still got Jamie,
Braun, Cersei,
Danny,
and Jon to figure out.
And Sansa.
We assume that that Golden Company
thing is taken care of.
What happens with Jon
and Danny, bare minimum?
So what I would think would happen was that Danny, I don't know.
I would say somewhere out is John kills Danny.
Yeah, you can't forget about Varys.
Kills Danny.
Varys had a bar.
Remember Varys had a bar.
Every line means something.
What did he say?
Varys said he was going to kill.
He wanted to kill Danny.
Oh, yeah, he wanted to kill Danny.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, Varys' bar about John.
What was this?
Remember?
The ones who don't want to lead are the best leaders.
Maybe the one that does not want to lead is the best leader.
The reluctant leader.
Absolutely.
I mean, if that ain't the fucking alley-oop.
Right?
That was, what do you call it?
Gladiator.
Maximus.
Boom.
When in the very beginning it was like, you're going to take over and give it back to the
people, and he's like, I don't want it.
And he goes, that's why it has to be you.
Yo.
I mean, in a weird way, there's a cool prophecy about the United States of America, right?
It's like George Washington could have ran that shit.
And he was like, no, you got to give it up.
Right.
Our founding fathers could have taken over you.
That's the difference between us and them, you know?
John's ending up on the throne.
He's ending up on the throne But then does he do something else
To give power to some
You know what I mean
So it's not like a
Traditional monarch
Let's say he gets on the throne
What happens with Dany
She's dead
She's gonna be dead
Who takes out Dany
Varys
You think Varys is really
Gonna be the one to take out
That's too telegraphed
Don't you think
I think everything now is telegraphed
You got no faith bro
You are fucking jaded bro
I used to be
I'm really jaded
I used to buy into every single theory.
Damn, bro.
Let the hate go.
It was last week.
You were fucking broken up girlfriend on Instagram.
The dragon's head exploded this week.
Fucking inspirational quotes Jack over here, bro.
That dragon's head.
We're going to see him in Fashion Nova.
Fit T. Jack over here, bro.
What the fuck?
Put your hair gummies.
Dude.
Come on, Jack. Come on, Jack.
Come back, baby.
Come back to us.
When it happens.
Live in this hypothetical.
Live in the hypothetical.
Remove the heartbreak.
Live in the hypothetical.
I was living in this hypothetical for eight years.
I know.
Just give a couple more months.
As I shed a single tear.
I know.
Okay.
So go with us.
Go with us.
What happens to Danny?
Who takes out Danny?
Who kills Danny?
It can't be Varys.
It's too easy.
It's got to be Jon. It's got to be Jon.
It's got to be Jon.
Because Jon's got to make the tough decision.
What if it's Sansa?
What if it's Sansa?
What if it was Jorah?
Right?
You had a theory about Jorah.
That was the most poetic one.
Well, what if it's Sansa?
What if it's Jaime?
Kingslayer again.
Hold on.
What if it's Sansa?
But Sansa's not going to do it with her hands.
Oh, Sansa does it with the knife Arya gave her.
Shit.
Or what knife?
Wait.
Stick with the pointy end. No, that was Dragon's Lace, bro. She has a knife. Oh, Santa does it with the knife Arya gave her. Shit. What knife? Wait. Stick with the pointy end.
No, that was Dragon Glass, bro. What happened down in the crypt?
She has that knife still.
Dragon Glass.
Dragon Glass is a commodity
just went hit the floor. Pointless.
No need for Dragon Glass anymore.
It was Bitcoin.
Dragon Glass is Bitcoin.
They were all in on Dragon Glass.
Needed that mine in that shit.
That's hilarious, dude.
Okay, back to what we were saying.
She has that knife.
That knife is made out of Dragon Glass.
It doesn't matter what it's made out of, but it's that one, right? So she has that knife. That knife is made out of dragon glass. It doesn't matter what it's made out of, but it's that one, right?
So she has the knife.
She's going to kill someone with this fucking knife, right?
Why else would we give her a knife?
Every knife that's been given has killed.
Has killed.
So you think she's taking out Danny.
Well, now, look, you're getting me back.
I just don't see how she's going to get it.
No, no, no.
Come back.
You're getting me back.
I want to pull back.
No, no, no.
Go in.
Don't be afraid to leave.
For the podcast. Don't be afraid to leave. For the podcast.
Don't be afraid to leave.
For the listeners.
For the people.
Lean in.
Go.
Sansa, what if Sansa has, I mean, look, she's always been the manipulator, right?
Not the manipulator, but she doesn't do any of the actions herself.
Right.
They kind of have to.
She's Littlefinger.
She's kind of Littlefinger.
She's Redfinger.
Ooh.
Ooh.
Okay.
I don't know.
What if she has someone do it for her?
What if it's Tyrion?
With that knife?
With that knife. I don't think Tyrion can do it
Then you lost me I'm out
No I'm just kidding
Because Tyrion's already doing the bank thing
That's a big one
He's not going to do anything physical
He's the little guy
He's going to outsmart
Don't forget through all this
We got to remember we got Cleganebowl
That's next week
That feels like an Arya-Hound tag team.
That's what they've set it up for.
Now that they hit the road together.
The band is back together.
Also, don't forget, Brienne's going to chase after Jamie, for sure.
She's going to show up on the battlefield.
Oh, Jack is back.
Who?
Jack is back.
Jack is back.
Oh, so Brienne got to kill Jamie, though, no?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Brienne won't go unless Sansa goes.
So if Sansa...
The only thing that would bring Brienne is if Sansa's going.
So Sansa's going.
I was going to say, yeah, how's Sansa getting close to...
And why would Sansa come?
Now we're cooking, ladies and gentlemen.
Now we're cooking.
Why does Sansa go?
What is the emphasis?
Jack is in.
Jack is in.
So she's going to go because Jon's going to need her to beat Daenerys, I would say, right?
Okay.
Hold up.
It's Daenerys.
And that's the only thing that she would...
Listen, he's Daenerys.
Bro, he's adding syllables, taking syllables away.
He's calling Cersei Xerxes.
He's mixing different mythical movies.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah.
Bro, you've been away a long time.
I know, but...
I don't know if you are.
I don't know if you are.
He takes the throne, kicks him in the chest, says, this is Sparta.
End of show.
Come on.
Okay, now we're going.
Now we're going. Daenerys. Okay.
Oh, now you got to add to it us.
Now you got to add to it us.
Daenerys. Watching this show for 10 years.
The unburned.
Breaker of chance. Yeah.
Okay.
Throw him down a moon tower. Breaker of Chains? Yeah. What were we talking about? Okay. I'm going to throw him out there.
Throw him down a moon tower.
Okay, so I think that Sons of Winterfell...
Where's Robin at?
Speaking of the devil...
Didn't they mention the veil tonight?
They said the veil would never turn.
Okay, so the veil is probably going to ride with Winterfell.
Yep, veil's going to show up.
I think they're going to take out Xerxes, Daenerys on the throne, and then the veil.
Dude, what did I say?
Xerxes.
Xerxes.
Bro, you never hit a Z that hard in your life.
Bro, never in your life.
No, I always get the one from 300.
Yeah, we know.
We just spoke about it.
Do y'all listen at all when we talk about this shit?
No, I don't say shit.
Son, we were just in a rift for like 15 seconds.
I was laughing.
I was laughing.
Yeah, but thinking about something else.
No, you were thinking about 300.
I was being insecure about my pronunciation and whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, go.
So go back.
Yeah. Say it. Just fucking say Whatever. Okay, go. So go back. Yeah.
Say it.
Just fucking say it.
Drop the Z.
So I think the Vale and Winterfell would mobilize to help John beat Daenerys.
And what is the impetus to them coming?
Are they...
So something's...
Something gets fucked up.
John realizes, okay...
This is what gets fucked up.
The news comes back that this bitch is crazy and she's about to light everybody up.
Mad Queen. Mad queen.
Mad queen.
It's mad queen.
They realize.
So John probably is going to go,
hey, we have got to do something to stop the mad queen.
Right.
So I might need the veil.
I might need whoever's up.
Hey, wildlings.
Come down.
Holler at your boy.
We need to stop.
Are there going to be three fucking more?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think the wildlings are coming down.
I think that's done. We just don't have enough time.
Yeah, we don't have enough time. Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.
What'd they say? Remember, every word
matters. What'd they say?
The Northmen will ride with you, and
the wildlings ride with them.
Yeah, we've known that for... But no, no, but this episode
they said it twice, right? They were making it seem
to be you are the man of the people.
They had to prove a point, which is he's the king
and Daenerys doesn't have
these same allegiances.
Correct.
They were going to show,
that's why she reacted that way.
He has earned all their loyalty.
So something's happening
that's bringing them all down.
We're getting everybody
into the flow of things.
Into the capital.
Into the capital.
They come all down.
Whatever the fuck it is,
it really doesn't matter.
Jack, you have theories or no?
Doesn't really matter, right?
As long as they're all there.
Right.
Okay?
Sansa's there.
She's getting PTSD flashbacks.
Right?
Yeah, back at King's Landing.
Gendry's there.
He's a lord now.
Okay?
What's her...
Arya.
Clegane.
We already know what they're about.
They're gonna do.
Mm-hmm. Something has to happen to get go.
What if Tyrion's there, he sends Davos to Braavos?
Davos.
Whatever.
Davos, Davos.
That's right.
The spelling's still there.
It's just the pronunciation.
Davos is still in play.
Davos is always one of my favorite characters.
Davos is still in play. Not a is always one of my favorite characters. Davos is still in play.
Not a fighter.
But he's negotiated with them before.
Yes.
I think he goes there.
I think Tyrion needs to be present in this battle.
There's too much going on for him to just be gone and then show up.
You know what I mean?
He's going to be there.
He's got to.
No?
He don't fight.
No, I'm just kidding.
Listen, he might be there, he might not be there.
We're assuming there's going to be a big battle.
Yes, maybe there's going to be a big battle.
I don't even care about the battle.
It's going to be multiple battles, though.
I think, give me the game.
I want to know the game.
So Cersei, her whole thing is, I want this bitch to go mad queen.
She could kill everybody.
I don't give a fuck if she kills everybody.
Because if she's coming in here reckless, we got a chance of taking her down.
If I get rid of the dragon, nobody has a chance of beating me because we got the golden company.
Cersei's game is chaos, kind of.
Cersei's game is just kind of death, but survive at all costs, maintain the throne, doesn't care about anyone else.
Sure, but make people overstep their boundaries.
Yeah.
Make them act irrationally.
Make them act emotionally.
That's what the beheading of Missandei was
just driving her
to make an emotional
decision
because the last
time
the last time
that Shorty was
upset
that Dany was
upset
she almost
flew the dragon
right into the
ballistas
this time
she's driving
that dragon
right into the
ballistas
that are on top
of that castle
and that dragon
I think the dragon goes down next ep.
Yeah.
Oh, here we go.
Dragon goes down next ep, right?
She goes mad queen.
Tyrion realizes, oh shit, we don't have a dragon.
We might lose this shit.
I got to go talk to the gold company.
Yeah.
That's the impetus for talking to the golden company.
Now that they don't have the dragon, now that they don't have the
dragon, right? Jon and them,
they gotta go back up to Winterfell.
Do you think they go back or they all stay?
I think they stay. They come to them. Okay, boom.
So they come to them to help. Oh, shit. They heard it went
down. Everybody gotta come help. We gotta do whatever
we can. Let's get everybody we got. Maybe we get the
wildlings. Who the fuck knows? So they're coming down to
help. I don't know why
they would help because
unless cersei calls them there because again the people in north are like we don't even care about
the seven kingdoms we don't care about westeros we just want the north
so they don't want that that throne so the only reason they would come down there is to save John? Yeah.
Is that it? Does John get kidnapped?
And then Cersei's like, hey,
you want him? Come get him and bend the knee. I just don't think there's
enough time for all this.
Don't worry about time.
Before the dragon dies, it has to burn all those
people. It's got to show that she's
the Mad Queen.
Mad King.
Mad Queen, whatever.
She has to go in, burn everything down.
She doesn't kill Cersei.
And that's when they realize
that she's whatever. Then they do
kill Cersei next episode.
Or, here's the thing. They kill Cersei
next episode, and then the last episode
is them killing Daenerys.
Or, or
Daenerys kills Jon,
and then everyone's like,
what?
Fuck that.
We're going.
That would be wild.
That's not happening.
That would be wild.
They're like, yo, Jon got killed?
And then the Wildlings, the Vale, Sansa.
They're like, all right.
Let's get it.
That gave me goosebumps.
Now, why did that?
So hold on.
That would mean-
And then who's the rightful heir?
Gendry? Real quick. Real quick. And then rightful heir is Gendry. Rightful heir is Gendry. Now, why did that? So, hold on. That would mean. All right. And then who's the rightful heir? Gendry?
Real quick.
Real quick.
And then rightful heir is Gendry.
Rightful heir is Gendry.
Or is it Sansa?
I think Sansa.
I think Sansa would have sent her to the throne.
Or Sansa just bodies it.
It doesn't matter.
I think Sansa would body it.
But back to that theory real quick.
It was.
Danny kills Jon, right?
Now you don't even need Tyrion to go to the Golden Company.
You don't even need Tyrion to go to the bank.
And then think about what Tyrion
and Varys said. They said, is there another?
Right? They mentioned
Jon, but maybe there's someone else.
When did they say that?
When they were in the room together. Yeah, is there anybody else?
Is there another? Yeah. And then they're like,
we already know who you're talking about. Right. Yeah.
Well, that was the reference to Jon.
I guess so. I guess you're right.
Okay, what were you saying?
Yeah, no. They're going to kill Cer the reference to Jon. I guess so. I guess you're right. Okay, what were you saying? Yeah, no.
They're going to kill Cersei, and then Jon...
Jaime's going to kill Cersei.
Jaime Tarrant's going to kill Cersei,
then Jon's going to kill Daenerys last episode.
But Sansa's amazing leadership skills, I think,
are being displayed for the reason, right?
When Daenerys is like, we've got to go tight,
and she's like, your men are worn.
You need to rest.
In previous episodes when they were preparing for battle,
she was like, yo, why does the armor look like that? She has a good hand. We said that
shit last week. Oh, yeah, yeah. She has a good hand.
And they're just trying to show how
impulsive Daenerys is. Jack got a good point.
She's a good hand. She's a good hand, but she's not a good ruler.
And if she
ends up being the hand, that means Tyrion's
dead. Or Tyrion just
taps out the game. He's like, yo, I did enough.
I think he's tapping out.
Or Tyrion's on the throne. No, because Jon's not going to pick Tyrion
to be his hand. Jon would pick Sansa to be his hand.
Like,
Tyrion's Daenerys' hand.
When she dies, Jon's not going to be like,
he doesn't inherit her hand.
He's going to pick his own. But you kind of do in the realm, right?
You inherit Varys. You inherit the people.
You pick your own people. Not really, because Varys
has been there for like six different kings. Yeah, because he finesses everyone. Yeah, You inherit the people. You pick your own people. Not really, because Varys has been there for like six different kings.
Yeah, because he finesses everyone.
Yeah, he plays the game.
He sees the outcome before it happens, and then he jumps ship.
And what's happening right now?
He's jumping ship.
He's going to jump on Jon's ship right now.
Here's the thing, too.
This goes in line with the prophecies coming true.
We've seen King's Landing destroyed by dragon fire.
Oh, by the way, by the way, we've got to address this.
Is Wildfire gone?
Is Wildfire coming into play?
Does Cersei have some Wildfire up her sleeve?
I thought that she burned it all.
Everything was gone with the burning of the cathedral?
That's why they have the ballistas now.
Okay, so it's all gone.
Yeah.
And Qyburn doesn't have any other magic up his sleeve
or any kind of crazy shit?
They might, but they haven't alluded to it.
Kyburn's kind of the best, though.
Let's keep it real.
She got a good team, bro.
She got a good fucking team.
A lot of role players.
People know what they're doing.
She's like the Bulls.
With elite skill sets.
That's it.
Jordan Pippen, everybody's set.
He was still showing their respect.
He was referencing Tyrion as my lord.
He was still showing their respect while telling them to go fuck himself.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The best.
I thought that was really good.
Who, Qyburn?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What do you think about the mountain looking like Shredder?
He's been looking like Shredder.
The outfit was a little insane.
Bigger and creepier.
Yeah.
The eyes are redder.
He looks like that japanese
wolverine movie uh-huh do you remember saying that the origins yeah yeah origins it was like
the too fast too furious of wolverines yeah it's not good bad um okay i think we got some good
tears is there anything else before we wrap it up guys again don't be surprised if next week we're
talking about what could have been and we're disappointed by what hasn't.
I know.
That dragon head exploding snapped me back into it.
I was thinking, I was like you, and like I said, I didn't like that first 30 minutes.
And as soon as that dragon head exploded, I was like, all right, I'm back.
It's on.
I'm in.
And then Masande, let's go.
Snapped me right back in there.
I feel like the only territory they have now, the only play they have is true fan service.
So like, that's what that scene was.
And whether you like it or not, the first 20 minutes of this last episode was a lot
of fan service.
Jamie and Brianne flirting. They're calling
back that game that they played, the drinking game.
I don't know if
there's anything deeper than that at this
point. I'm worried about it.
I know. You have a pessimistic
view of it, but I think we've got some exciting theories.
Two left.
Debt, Golden Company, it's going down.
I think that comes into play. Do we know
lengths? What are the final two?
Buff 20.
Hour 20, hour 20, yeah.
A lot can be done.
I'll say this, though. I really enjoyed
this episode. Way better.
Top to bottom. We got a couple
cool deaths, but the deaths pushed the
storyline forward. It wasn't a death for no reason. Everything was calculated. You got a couple cool deaths, but the deaths pushed the storyline forward. It wasn't
a death for no reason. Everything was calculated.
You got a lot more game than
there was in the last episode.
And it didn't...
When we watched the last episode, we were like,
we're disappointed it's a traditional hero movie.
The stars are safe.
And this episode, right away, you lose a dragon
and you lose Missandei. Absolutely.
But you kind of know it. Because we're back to the game.
Right, right.
We're back to the politics.
They're better at that.
They're better at writing that stuff.
Better at that.
It's more interesting.
It's what we like watching.
It's why we like watching that Kevin Spacey show on Netflix.
What was it called?
House of Cards.
House of Cards, right?
We like the game.
We like these people trying to outsmart each other.
And the reason we like it is because we think we can outsmart the writers.
We go, oh, I know what you're doing.
We've done this whole episode.
It's just calculate.
I think the showrunner's strength
was more writing the political stuff
than the fantasy stuff.
I think their strength was just reading a book
and translating it.
Sure.
That's fair.
Agreed.
And you know what it comes back to?
You said George Martin is like a nerd
and he's like the guy that never got laid.
These guys have been getting laid their whole life.
They don't get it.
The main dude is a stud.
He's married to Amanda Peet.
He's got like three kids with her.
He doesn't know where to draw from.
Yeah.
That's why everything's working out.
Because in his life, everything has worked out.
Real talk.
How's Amanda Peet looking these days?
Good?
She's still looking good, yeah.
She's held up very well.
She's got the gap a little bit, right?
A little bit.
It's cute, though.
Adorable.
Wait, is he the expert on Amanda?
You're like, how's Amanda?
I'm just saying.
Which one?
Guys, all right, well, that's good.
I think we're cooking.
I think we've got some good stuff.
I'm all in.
Jack is, I think, halfway back.
If this next episode is good, I think we got Jack back all in.
Oh, man.
If it's not, I'm worried about you, personally.
If something doesn't die, I will.
Anyway, it's been another episode of West Bros.
Thank you guys so much for listening.
Peace.