Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Why Whites Can't Dance
Episode Date: March 3, 2020This week Andrew, Akaash, and Alexx discuss: becoming a disappointing comic instead of a doctor, the trick to picking up women at bars, Bill Belichick's secret weapon, eating weak animals, embracing ...Latino culture for it's insulting manner, white people still not being able to dance, Wilder getting his rematch, the Tony Romo contract, and much more. INDULGE!!! Want an extra episode a week? Become a Patron! www.Patreon.com/Flagrant2
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guys we've tried to start this episode at least 20 different times okay um i'm actually recording
this intro after we recorded the entire episode which includes at least 19 other times that we
try to start this episode maybe ed and the turkey is going to include it i think he is maybe little
snippets okay he's been breathing out a lot
and it's been really interesting to hear him breathe out without hearing the sound
but it's possible now we know turkey's just fucking with us anyway um we'll say this we got
some dates coming up mandy and drew schultz go get them tickets miami thank you so much for selling
out the shows uh portland we're gonna be there this weekend we We added a show Thursday. Friday, Saturday shows are all sold out.
We added a show Thursday.
Might be some tickets left for that.
Bunch of other cities, we're coming.
Make sure you check it out.
Charlotte, I think Virginia Beach and Richmond,
one of those cities sold out.
We have Reading, PA.
Come to Reading, PA, formerly the poorest city
in all of America.
So we are coming there. Great thing to be known for. And if you're surrounding Reading, PA, formerly the poorest city in all of America. So we are coming there.
Great thing to be known for.
And if you're surrounding Reading, PA, come out to those shows.
It'd be great.
Support the shitty economy.
Yes.
Minneapolis, Minnesota.
We added another show there as well.
And then Tucson.
Come on out to Tucson.
That is the last time I'm going to be running this hour before I film a special,
which is going to be in L.A. that next week,
or later that week, rather.
Theandrewschultz.com for tickets.
We got plenty more cities.
You go there, you get the full list.
Always adding new ones.
Akash, tell them where you're going to be.
Yo, March 12th through 14th, I am coming to Montreal.
I'm going to be at the Comedy Nest.
Y'all better bring that ass through.
March 27th, I am in the Den in Chicago.
Come through Chicago. Y'all been asking me to
come out for so long. I'm there.
Buy the fucking tickets. Let's sell this out.
March 7th, I got my first
theater gig. Vancouver Playhouse.
Some of y'all are messaging me. You already bought tickets.
It's so fucking dope. Let's sell out this theater
guys and then we get more theaters to come
and then we build this fucking thing out.
Andrew Schultz style. And June 12th through 14th, I at the comedy loft in dc also youtube plug i don't often do this
but it's so dope i just crossed 50 000 subs started at 500 six months ago so that's 100x growth
to put it in business terms let's keep fucking going yo every thursday i drop a clip akash sing
comedy check it out yo make make sure you go check out.
We got a dope dropping in coming in from Miami.
This one was dope.
Every Thursday, we're dropping in episodes in a new city around the country.
You know the show.
If you don't know the show, go check it out.
Always starts with stand-up, and then we're out in the city traveling,
eating, doing the wildest thing the city has got to do.
Mark's probably throwing up, or we're torturing him.
And then we usually close it out with some stand-up as well.
And, of course, unsafe sets every Monday.
We're a little late this week, but it's coming.
Mondays, youtube.com slash dandrushultz.
Now that we got our little church announcements out of the way,
let's start the show.
Eden, I trust that you're going to start in a good place.
Are we recording right now?
We're recording.
Okay, because Akash goes at the beginning of this.
We're about to record the episode.
He goes, hey, can I just tell you a story?
Right?
And I'm thinking it's something with your girl. It's related to what we were just talking about.
What were we just talking about?
We were just making horrendous jokes.
Oh, and we start now.
If you only knew what we were talking about before.
What's up?
Welcome, everybody, to another episode of Flagrant 2.
It's your boy Schultz here.
We got Akash saying, Alex Media,
Edwin in the fucking background.
Edwin de Turki in the background.
You know what I'm saying?
Both a little lighter.
What up, everybody? New Flagrant 2. It's your boy boy shawls i'm here with akash
we got alex media edin de turki you know i mean let's get right into it flagrant thought of the
week this is our sixth time recording the intro okay for reasons that we cannot share. Private reasons. Right, Akash? Well, me too, reasons. No, bro.
What's up, everybody?
Nah, we're going to do it. What's up, everybody?
I don't want to leave here at 11 o'clock.
For the fourth time. For the fourth time. What's up, everybody?
Welcome to Flavor 2. It's your boy Schultz. OK, Akash, Alex Media, Eden DeTurki.
And that's it.
Start an episode for the fifth time, okay?
It's your boy Schultz.
Let me do that for the sixth time.
Flagrant thought of the week.
Yo, this is not really a flagrant thought
in terms of funny,
but I think there is something funny to it.
What's up?
So, apparently,
Israel is not out of of son you had a country
israel is um that being said i think israel is about to put an israeli level beating on
oh yeah yeah we're gonna call you well palestine after saturday we're going to go down so um
apparently israel is coming up with the vaccine for the coronavirus
right right and it's interesting because there are a lot of countries because of the way they
feel about israel and palestine relations they boycott any exports from israel and if i'm israel
i'm like yo I'm like,
yo, I'm going to need y'all to keep this same energy.
Oh,
100%.
You know what I mean?
Because we got the cure.
100%.
Right?
But do they have the cure or are they just...
So they're going to create the vaccine and then...
You think they're just going to give that away?
They're Jews.
Jesus.
Akash.
Jesus.
Are we flagrant one?
Jesus.
What did I miss?
Jesus.
Are we flagrant 0.5? Jesus. miss? Did I miss something? Are we flagrant.5?
That was just pretty accurate
Jesus
No Jesus is the guy they killed
Jesus is the guy they killed
Jesus
I got you
You know what I mean?
It took me a while
I had to hit you with a G
You know what I mean?
Jesus
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
I got you
Why did they kill Jesus?
I don't know, yo.
Do you think it's because he had holes in his hands and his coins were falling through him and they were like, we can't have you.
I bet there's more.
How are you going to save money like that?
All right, let's start over for the 15th time today.
We're starting over.
Okay, no.
But real talk.
If I'm Israel, I'm going, hold on. So you're not going to accept our fucking olive oil? let's start over for the 15th time today we're starting over okay no but real talk if i'm israel
i'm going hold on so you're not going to accept our fucking olive oil you're not going to accept
our wine right and you're going to act all righteous like that's the thing about these
european countries and shout to fa for this shit like if they called out all these all these
european countries like oh how dare you treat palestine like that and then a boat full of
refugees shows up on their shores.
And these European countries kick those fucking refugees right into the water.
Israel, how could you treat something like that?
I'm sorry.
Coming from the Sudan?
Bye with their foot.
300 style right into the ocean.
Point is, is like everybody's a hypocrite, right?
Especially when you need something.
When you need some shit,
we're going to see how tight your morality is.
Oh, yeah.
And if I was in there, I'd call them on it.
I'd be like, if you accept this, you got to lift the boycott.
Lift the boycott of all of our shit.
You're going to face pressure from the world, though.
You're going to be able to stand in the face of that pressure?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
I forgot who I was talking about. Yeah. I mean, they don't give a fuck but if i'm there i'm like yeah we're gonna cure the world
and we're gonna hook up everybody that got our back you know i mean send that shit over here
first real talk but i still want to know now now now our cause is shell-shocked so they can't
nothing what the fuck's going on that's why trump is so confident we got to figure it out he's like
oh we got the juice. They got it done.
I'm just saying, don't you think that wouldn't you feel that same way?
Nobody's fucking with your shit.
They're doing boycotts of your shit.
They're judging you.
Meanwhile, they're just kicking refugees right back into the fucking water.
I would just tax them.
Tax them?
Yeah.
All the motherfuckers who didn't trade with them before.
Oh, you paying four times what everybody else is paying.
Interesting. Yeah. I mean, if they were really smart smart they'd give it away and make a point of it they go hey when
you needed something we got you we just want to remind y'all say what like a loan jesus christ
all right so corona needs to stay i'm not i'm not done corona needs to stay i'm not done i'm not
done with the intro i'm not done with the intro. I'm not done with the intro.
What's up?
It's your boy, Andrew Schultz.
Okay?
I'm out here.
You know what I mean?
We got Akash Singh.
Yeah.
Okay?
We got Alex Media.
We got Eden De Turki.
All right?
We're starting the episode officially right now.
This is maybe our 20th time starting the episode.
Mark the time, Eden. All right? Al al you had a hot hot spicy take before we started the 15th version of the
episode you know what i want to do actually this is what i want to do since we're officially
starting now ed i want you to just grab random conversations that happened until now it's gonna be a little extra editing work but
you're mexican that's true that's true no you're not you're nicaraguanse yeah okay i forgot i didn't
i remembered um i had an interesting situation today i was at my local diner and i was going
over my mexico city trip with some of the mexican guys and um one of the mexican guys was like oh i'm actually not from mexico i was like
really where you from he's like colombia and i was like really and uh i didn't realize how racist
that was that he was telling me where he was from and i was like bro are you sure bro are you sure
you're not mexican do you know what you do?
You might not be from Mexico, but here you are a professional Mexican, bro.
You are working in this place filling my water.
And then he literally goes, no, no, Colombian.
He goes, Shakira, Shakira.
And I go, bro, if I was a Mexican pretending to be Colombian, that's exactly what I would say.
Hold on, wait a minute.
Shakira ain't Mexican?
No. The fuck, yo? You. Hold on, wait a minute. Shakira ain't Mexican? What the fuck, yo?
You didn't know?
What a day.
Dude, there's a lot of shit that is being let down today, huh?
You guys will understand that when Ed and Ed's in.
Pull that shit out like my dick.
All right.
Now, Corona gotta stay. That's your take, Al? Corona gotta stay. Pull that shit out Like my dick Alright Now
Corona gotta stay
That's your take Al?
Corona gotta stay
That deep exhale
Was Eddin realizing
How much editing
He's gonna have to do
Bro
You realize
Maybe that's what
Your fucking parents
Named you Eddin for
Eddin
Eddin
But that's
You know how Spanish
Be making shit
Eddin
Eddin
You gotta edit the thing
You know You gotta edit it You gotta edit it Right? You know how Spanish Be making shit Edit Edit You gotta edit the thing You know
You gotta edit it
You gotta edit it
Right
You know what I mean
And Akash
They should've named you
Doctor
Because
Then you might've been
Doctor
Instead of
Akash
I can't believe that hit
I can't believe that hit
Yo
Y'all might get this
If you heard The other fucking intro to the podcast.
This intro 25.
We're not fucking around, okay?
All right, go.
Al, you got a fucking flagrant take.
So Corona needs to stay for a little bit longer because it's taking the people I don't really care about.
Yeah.
And it just now is starting to hit Florida,
and Florida needs to go.
Ooh.
This is a spicy take.
We just got back from Florida.
I thought you really enjoyed Florida.
I enjoy the climate.
He's got a couple girls he needs to get rid of.
Bro.
You've been texting me three times today, yo.
Corona, do your thing.
Corona's taking out side chicks.
That's hilarious, bro. Oh, wow's taking out side chicks. That's hilarious, bro.
Oh, wow.
That was my take.
That was hilarious.
Corona.
Corona.
You got to hope Corona's taking out your side chicks.
Oh, wow.
Fuck.
Okay.
I hear you.
So Florida got to go for you.
You're not into Florida.
No, I love Florida.
I think you're into Miami, low key.
I think you like it.
Yeah, Miami's a little different.
Miami's dope.
The rest of Florida. Miami's dope. Especially coming from New York, this miserable ass. I had a lot of fun-key. I think you like it. Yeah, Miami's a little different. Miami's dope. Miami Beach City's dope.
Especially coming from New York, this miserable ass.
I had a lot of fun in Miami.
Landlocked ass shit.
We're literally on an island.
I know.
We ain't going no fucking...
Literally an island.
You going to the beach?
You right, you right.
No, no.
Not that much.
Actually, I grew up at the beach.
What am I talking about?
Now I'm capping.
Fire Island.
I was capping like I was poorer.
What's that called?
Being white? What's the opposite of capping. Fire Island. I was capping like I was poorer. What's that called? Being white?
What's the opposite of capping?
What?
Like capping is like you're fronting, right?
Yeah.
Like you got more than you do.
Yeah.
But what if you're fronting like you got less than you do?
That's the white cap.
That's hipster.
Yeah.
That's the ice caps.
What would hipsters wear?
What type of hat would they wear?
The little beanies.
Beret. You'd be beanie-ing. I was beret-ing. They don't wear berets? Yeah. Well, what's hipsters wear? What type of hat would they wear? The little beanies. Beret.
You'd be beanie-ing.
I was beret-ing.
They don't wear berets?
Yeah, well, what's hipstery?
What's like a-
A beanie.
The beanie hanging off the head like halfway to-
Toboggan?
Ain't that what it's called with the ears and the puffy thing?
Yo, yo, Akash, chill out, son.
Yo, you need to chill.
Hey, bro.
Hey, bro.
What's a toboggan, yo?
What?
Hey, bro.
What's a toboggan, yo?
Hey, bro, you need to chill out, bro. Don't just say toboggan, bro. What? Hey, bro. Hey, bro. You need to chill out, bro.
Don't just say toboggan, bro.
He just said one of his cousin's names and expected us to.
Yo, Al on fire.
Take 28, yo.
He really is, bro.
So are his girl's respiratory systems.
And that fucking corona be here, bro.
Get the fuck out of here.
Damn, Akash, if you were a doctor, maybe you could help cure that.
Yo, toboggan hat. One of the vast arrays of words used to describe a knit hat.
Nah.
Nah.
Ain't nobody say grab your toboggan, it's cold outside.
Bro, they say it down south.
Nah.
Nah, son.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, everybody.
Hey, hey, make sure you grab a pistol and throw a toboggan just in case.
It's a little chilly out there.
Toboggan, bro?
You want me to believe people in Texas say toboggan, bro?
Bro, motherfucking farmers I know have been like, get your toboggan.
And then you have the difference between a toboggan and a beanie.
And I actually don't remember what it was.
They're calling you toboggan, dog.
Hey, do you have Trinidadian toboggan?
There we go. from one of those yo i guys would want to be right so bad he sent a picture
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I don't know how much of this episode y'all know, okay?
I don't know how much of this episode because it's up to Edan, right?
How much he's going to include.
But it's up to Edan, right? How much he's gonna include. But,
it's up to Edan and Alex.
It's up to Edan and Alex
and Akash and Andrew, how much he includes.
And you overruled that
motherfucker within the same sentence, yo.
It's up to Edan. You gave it all to him,
and then you heard Alex go,
it's up to everyone in this podcast.
I didn't want to override Al. I felt bad.
I felt bad. You know what I mean?
I did feel bad, bro. I don't want to override Al. I didn't want to override Al. I felt bad. I felt bad. You know what I mean? So, well, I did feel bad, bro.
I don't want to take away responsibility.
You know what I mean?
We good.
You got it.
Yeah.
Edwin is your slave, bro.
You use him as your...
Doesn't it feel nice?
You get it now, right?
Anyway.
Oh, God. Corona. So... Anyway Oh god, Corona Yo, we be traveling a lot, yo
That thought has crossed my mind
All of us be hitting planes every week
Bruh
Bruh
And he swam to get here, son
The fuck you think, that river clean?
For real, dog
Can turkeys even fly?
Or are turkeys kind of like penguins? I think they fly a little bit, dog. Can turkeys even fly? Or are turkeys kind of like penguins?
I think they fly a little bit, right?
Can turkeys fly?
Son, this motherfucker think he can catch a chicken.
He thinks it's easy to catch a chicken.
Can I clarify where this comes from?
They can fly?
Shit, they ain't be using that.
You know what I mean?
Let's go. You know what I mean like let's go you know what I mean
it seems like a lot more walking
but as far as
catching a chicken
100% I could catch a chicken
there's no question
bro Alex
tell us the context
because right now I'm without
the context was
what was the context
you were hooking up
with an ugly girl
no
I mean
you were hooking up
with an ugly girl right
that was it on the road?
After that, you called her a chicken.
I called her a chicken.
Why do you think I called her a chicken?
I don't know.
She can't fly.
You said
you don't eat pussy
food.
It's a weak animal, bro. I'm trying to not
eat weak animals no more. Son, yeah. It's a weak animal, bro. I'm trying to not eat weak animals no more.
Son, this guy?
Son, you are what you eat, dog.
This guy here is one Joe Rogan
and he's like...
He's like,
we gotta hunt, we gotta eat from the land.
Son, let me tell you
something, man. One Joe Rogan's what got us the studios.
He better lock that shit up, yo.
A lot could change with one Joe Rogan, guys.
A lot could change.
So, look.
That was it.
Come on, son.
You're not a doctor, son.
You're not a doctor, bro.
You're not a doctor, Akash.
Stop it.
Come on, on son Stop it
Where's Kaz
You know it's getting wild
Right now
You know it's getting wild
I might start drinking
Okay
The thing was this
I don't want to eat weak shit
Alright
Joe told me he eats What's that shit he always eats?
Deer and elk.
Elk.
Elk.
Elk.
What's felt?
The shit you touch.
Oh, yeah.
It's like velvet.
Pool table.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So elk.
Man, I was thought he was eating felt for the longest.
I'm not going to lie, dude.
I might have even said that publicly.
Yeah, he eats jalapenos and felt, bro.
That's his diet.
That's how he gets down.
So he eats elk.
And I'm like, yeah, why do you eat the elk?
And he's like, bro, it's like eating an athlete.
He hunted himself, though?
Yes, he hunted himself.
But he also said the elk, they'll run uphill away from wolves.
Uphill.
They're just straight.
It's like LeBron.
It's like eating LeBron.
Yeah.
Right?
Okay. Yeah.
I'm saying, if you had to eat a human, right?
You can eat Mama June or you can eat LeBron.
I even settled for some LeBron Veal.
Get brawny out there.
You know what I mean?
Let's go.
It might be a lot easier to eat Dwayne Wade's daughter.
I said daughter
you know what I mean
I'm accurate
but I said hateful
yo Mark opened the show
in Miami
he goes
what the fuck
did y'all do to Dwayne Way's case
son
me and Al backstage
like
we literally did a Scooby Doo
that shit was good so funny alright so He's like, we literally did a Scooby-Doo. That was crazy.
That shit was good.
So funny.
All right.
So if you just eat athletic animals, fish.
I'll tell you one thing I can't catch with my hands.
A fish?
A fish.
I don't think you catch a chicken with your hands, G.
Straight up.
Bro.
We should get this challenge going.
Can I show you?
Can I show you how?
Catch. You can say the same thing
about an elk
no
catch
you can't catch an elk
they run away from wolves
you're not a wolf
you're not even a doctor
you can't catch no chicken
yo
you can't catch a chicken
you got no lateral movement
Can I tell you something
Can I tell you something
Sure
I can catch two chickens
At the same time
That's how much I believe in it
Also what you mean
I got no lateral movement
What do you know about my lateral
You don't got no lateral movement
I've crossed you the fuck up
Get the fuck out of here
I have crossed you the fuck up
You've never crossed me We got a new one on new one-on-one game we got to get going now, huh?
That's what it's come to?
That's what it's come to?
Son, son, son.
He could play a little bully ball.
Did I not cross you up?
He could play a little bully ball.
I crossed you up.
Remember when I crossed you up and you said the N-word with an R at the end?
You don't remember that?
That's how nice I crossed you.
I crossed you and then I heard the M
with the R at the end
and I looked back
cause you were way far back
and I looked back
and then
and I was like
I didn't say it
and you were like
nah it was on me
and then
do you remember that
it's like
who's this nigga
with the handles
for real bro
for real
nah that never happened
come on
no lie to people
it's like
it happened we gotta have a listener who's got a farm in New York we should make this happen Bro, for real. No, that never happened. Come on, son. Don't lie to people. It's not happening.
We got to have a listener who's got a farm in New York.
We should make this happen.
Yeah.
Anybody.
And then they're going to be like, oh, it's not a wild chicken.
Wax, yo.
All right.
We're going to go catch some chickens with wax.
That's not even a question.
Second of all, fish, agile as fuck, fast as fuck, sharp.
Okay.
It's just a muscle.
That's all fish is, is one muscle.
Okay.
Fish. Good good how are they
strong they just pussy they run son fish are um they're lit it's just a tricep that's what a fish
is a quad that has a mouth and can shit that's what a fish is which fish are we talking about
cod cod is the gay fish yo is it yeah that's what i thought rainbow trout was
nah nah rainbow trout that shit is that shit is all right cod is the gay fish nah cod's not
gay god's gay why is cod why is cod gay i mean come on yo cod nah dude nah nah nah rainbow trout
way gayer cod three letters gay three letters three letters that was a reach bro that was a reach
look at cod
that's a legit fish
anyway point is
any of those types of
like a fucking bull
got that
Al brought a cod
to the last weekend
of the show
wow
wow Al
you gonna take that bro
son
I have a lot of nicknames
for my laptop
that I bring on
every weekend
it's fucking A
alright
let's get
there's a lot of shit
that I want to get to
this episode
we have a lot of things
we want to talk about
there's a
one thing I did want to talk about
about Miami
and
just
just
just something in general
about like Latin culture.
First of all,
thanks to everybody who came out,
man.
We had over 2000 people come out this weekend to the shows in Miami.
It was unbelievable.
And,
um,
the,
uh,
yo,
Latin culture is so fucking dope,
man.
There's just so much love in that shit.
And it made me,
it made me reconsider how we see, how we judge certain behavior, right?
I'm sure some comic has done a joke about this, but regardless, we just talk about it.
But, like, there's so much love in Latin culture that you can be, like, very honest in your teasing with people.
But it's okay because it comes from this place of like
incredible love right there's so much affection right like so your parents the guy who worked
there justin who managed his father's does security his father calls uh justin uh gordito
right which means little fat one yeah right. Right. And, um,
Justin is skinnier than me.
Right.
He lost all the weight.
He's about my size.
I would say we're about the same,
but in no way fat.
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, point in time right um there's probably someone else in his remote family which is gordo because
they're just a taller version of that fat right kid right um in like british culture
or like when i say british i mean like what americans learned from you know like white
people white waspy culture anglo-saxon culture, you wouldn't just call
your friend fat.
No.
Or little fat guy
because it's way less affectionate,
the culture.
So if you said that to someone,
it'd be like,
yo, why are you insulting him?
Is there a black equivalent
like Chubbs
or some shit like that?
I got a cousin named Golu
which is like his nickname
and that just means round
because he was just always fat.
Still fat.
I think usually you get your street name if you get a street name, usually just from your appearance.
So the darkest guy, he's usually black.
Black Tony.
Yeah.
Right, et cetera.
But I've noticed that this kind of teasing and that kind of stuff permeates our culture, but it is completely acceptable.
And I really believe it's because it's encased in this affection.
And cultures that don't have that affection don't have the same type of teasing.
Right?
And it's way more rude or impolite to refer to someone that way.
And they do it with the girls as well.
Yeah.
And I think what happens is by the time you go to school and people are like, yo, you're fat.
And they're like, yeah, I know.
That's what my dad, that's what they call me.
I'm Gordo.
And then they're like, oh, okay.
You're prepared for teasing.
That's why there's no Latin school shooters.
Because there is no bullying you experience at school.
This the same that you would experience from the people that love you the most
whereas white folks
we're out
babying our kids
and protecting them
telling them they're perfect
and beautiful
and you're the most beautiful thing
in the world
and nothing is wrong
with you at all
and then you go to school
and someone's like
hey you're weird looking
and then you're
I gotta shoot that kid
I gotta fucking murder
the whole school
they can't handle it
I think there is a correlation
that and Latin people start fucking at like 12 so there's no real like angst that's like built up
but i truly believe that like it's a better preparation for life if you get ripped by the
people that love you the most because what is some stranger fuck that stranger and like so i'm half
puerto rican i had that growing up a little bit in my culture. And that's why when I was like feeling chubby, like I actually went online and told people
like, oh, fat shame me until I get skinny.
That shit works.
Because you were used to it.
Yeah.
It happened.
Yeah.
Shit works.
That's how I lost weight.
Wow.
My uncle fat shamed all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
My uncle, who's like my father, would just like, he'd see me eating food and be like,
you're going to eat that?
Yeah.
And then you just make a face and just be like, that's too much maybe i don't take it to heart it's like it's love so maybe shame
only works or is only effective it is an effective tool but maybe it's only effective when it comes
from family because you can't ignore them like you can ignore people on the internet and i think
the love has to be clear too i think you gotta to use your word from earlier encase it in like
this is obviously love but yo you fat though yeah like you get a huge hug yeah a kiss from this person who fucking loves you
they give you a gift they haven't seen you it's like they're telling stories and then they're
also saying look how fat you are yeah but it's like oh this guy has my best interest at heart
yeah and think about it your closest friends once you're you're closest friends, you become Latin with them.
Yo, that's so true.
And now it makes sense because I've had a lot of people reach out,
and Charlamagne's had a lot of people reach out like,
yo, you guys fat shame me into losing weight.
But when you develop a relationship with someone on a podcast,
they become almost like this friend group.
You're like talking to them essentially for four hours a week.
Interesting.
Now it makes sense.
So not all shame works.
Shame from a stranger?
No.
Unaffected.
I don't care.
But shame from the closest people to you.
Shame from a stranger hurts because you don't know this dude loves you.
It's just a dude.
Yeah.
That shit is ruthless.
I don't know you, man.
You don't even know me?
You don't make fun of me?
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Ah.
And I think it also helps with confidence.
Go on.
It's like, I would say the Latin culture,
the very confident people,
like they're peacocking all the time and they, you know.
I think it's most confident, most insecure.
Oh, you think that's a form of insecurity?
I feel like most of this shit is a double-edged sword.
This is what's tricky about any of this kind of stuff.
There's always a potential downside with it.
And you got to try to figure out how to balance those two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree with that 100%.
I feel if you go up to Dykeman,
the confidence of some of these chubby guys
to get in these skinny jeans
and pointy shoes, man.
Like, they look like wrapped up sausages,
but they strut down that street.
Yeah, no, no.
It is the most confident,
but I also think that there is
an insecurity thing as well
because, like, there's a level of jealousy that is unbelievable in the Latin culture.
Within male-female relationships?
Male-female relationships.
Yeah.
100%.
So I think it is...
I mean, yeah.
You'd also be cheating all the time, but yeah, sure.
I get it.
Sure, sure.
But I think that there is an immense confidence, but they're also getting their eyebrows done.
And you're not doing that because you're like, oh my God, my eyebrows.
I'm so perfect the way I am.
I don't need nothing.
There's no Latin Lizzo.
No, but I think it's like somebody in their family will be like, yo, your eyebrows is
woofing.
So they go get them shits done.
And they don't have any shame to, as a man, they don't have any shame to go get their eyebrows of course not of course but true confidence would be and i'm not
saying i even have this or or any of us here have it but the true confidence would be going about it
like uh you know anthony davis yeah which is like i have a unibrow and yeah i don't give a fuck so
i see what you're saying but i think that culture is like confidence is also looking good.
If you look at any novella, it's like you.
So what I looked at when we were in Miami, I look at,
so America is this country of immigrants, right?
And so we're a country of poor people who just got money, right?
We knew money.
We knew money.
And what do people with new money do?
Spend it.
Flex, right?
Miami is the Americaica of america right so it is the people
that had the lease not even it's like the because la some of these other cities new york san diego
those are actual new money flexes but if you can't afford those places then you go to miami
so it's the most flex. Miami's mad expensive too.
But not like these other cities.
But fair enough.
But I guess what I'm trying to say about Miami is that like the people coming to Miami, like
the people coming to New York, they might be from Europe.
They might be from like these other, whatever, you know what I mean?
Or they might be from other parts of America.
Right.
Right.
So you have like New York migration is Maine, Ohio.
Texas, right?
Miami migration is Puerto Rico, DR, Venezuela,
Columbia, right?
So now you have people coming from really impoverished
places and then making money for the first time
in their family's history.
And now they're like, oh, I'm going to flex on them,
just like Americans did when we got here.
My mom got a mink.
My mom's Scottish, comes from nothing.
Shit neighborhood.
The second she could get a mink, she got a mink.
There's an interesting thing, and this is actually-
You feel me, don't you?
Yeah, and this got me thinking about it,
because I've been thinking about finances a lot.
There's an interesting thing
that when you first get money
and you didn't have it
you almost have to spend it
to learn the lesson
that this shit was not worth it
ah
you know what I mean
like new money
almost has to spend itself once
that's the
the problem is
if you're a rookie
and you get a huge contract
and you're an athlete
and then you spend it all
and you're fucked
yes
you don't make it after that
yes
but there's a
I
2018 I said it a thousand times I almost went broke I had to do that to learn and you're an athlete and then you spend it all and then you're fucked. Yes. Because you don't make it after that. Yes. But there's a, I, 2018,
I've said it a thousand times,
I almost went broke.
I had to do that to learn,
oh,
that shit ain't worth it.
Right.
You gotta save,
you gotta plan,
you gotta whatever
and now I'm like trying to figure out
how do I,
to get the fans to understand this concept.
But when you first get money,
your mom,
this blows my mind,
your mom,
Scottish,
white lady,
nothing about that
says this culture flexes the culture
from what you've told me frowns on flexing you'll be anti-flex like us yeah yeah she came here got
money said fuck it gotta mink gotta make everybody gets money and then blows it at first and then
you gotta do that to learn this was a fucking waste yeah yeah no that's a great point that is
a great point but i and i think the reason why you flex initially is because you want to mask
your poverty.
Like my mom,
I assume comes from dirt poor.
Like when you say the town,
my mom's from in Scotland to Scottish people,
they go,
Oh,
that's rough.
Really?
That's rough.
I said it to a couple of people in the audience.
They're just
these scots you know they were drunk i was like yeah my mom's from the milton and they sobered up
like oh yeah like east new york yeah of an already tough city right right so it's like but i think
what you're doing is you're trying to cover up the poverty for me i know struggle my family went up
and down with money but for me when i personally didn't have money for me it was all i'm thinking about is the shit i'm gonna buy when i got money
like when i have money i'm not gonna be living in this shit whole apartment with mice everywhere
right i'm not gonna be living on this fucking mattress on the floor i'm gonna get this and
this and this and this and you start spending the money before you even get it and then when you get
it you already know a thousand things you could buy let's go i got the the cue or whatever what
a horse put on there i got the amazon wish list the wish list yeah ready to go so it's like
so when i was down there in um in miami first of all best dressed crowd i've ever seen at one of
my shows i mean like usually people that come to the show they got style they got some kicks etc
but like when we're doing a meet and greet, I mean like heat, heat on the feet.
You know what I mean?
They really came through.
But I also started thinking like, okay, what if you came from this place, which was you knew was pretty poor.
And then you came to America and you start making money.
You're trying to cover up the fact that you're poor, maybe subconsciously.
Right.
You're like, I'm going to have my hair done.
You don't ever see a dude without a shape up in Miami. everybody's shit is fucking on point the outfit is on point i don't
care if you're going to eat at like 3 3 p.m outfits on point shoes all that and i think what
it is same reason my mom bought the mink and i think same reason so many immigrants do this it's
like yo i don't want subconsciously like i don't want motherfuckers to know what was happening back in the day.
And I think this is a testament to white hipsterism.
Is that it is the most privileged.
Oh, 100%.
White hipsters are trying to act poor.
To mask.
They're buying hand-me-downs.
To mask.
To mask.
Go.
The guilt they feel.
I don't want people to know where I'm from.
Specifically, the exact same logic. I don't want people to know where I'm from. Specifically, the exact same logic.
I don't want people to know where I'm from,
what it's like over there.
Because then you're going to look at me different.
You're going to judge me.
So let me dress it down.
Let me hate all that shit.
Let me not be about any of that.
And it's the most arrogant fucking thing.
Here they are trying to be down
or trying to be relatable.
They move into these fucking poor neighborhoods
and then they start dressing poor.
I'd be insulted if I was from that poor neighborhood i'm like wait you're trying to
dress like me like imagine like somebody like like tried to dress like a pirate you know what i mean
like imagine that like i don't know exactly why that would make sense but like do you know what
i mean like imagine you moved into a puerto rican neighborhood and you just started uh you know
wearing fucking green frogs on all your backpacks and shit like that. You bought a
white Honda Civic. You really
tried to fit in. It'd be insulting
a little bit.
I don't know if I would consider that insulting.
It's almost like you're moving to
neighbors like, alright, I'm one of
the people now.
It's almost like embracing instead of just
like, hey, let me just
flex my money in front of a bunch of people who don't have it.
Fair enough.
That is interesting.
And I'll accept that.
I just think it is fascinating.
I don't know if that many hipsters are aware of how privileged it is to dress shitty on purpose, to buy hand-me-downs purposely.
You can't afford clothes that haven't been worn and then specifically go to the goodwill
and buy the ones that have yeah right it's like you are trying to buy into
a lifestyle that isn't yours just like the just like the immigrants immigrants are trying to buy
into a lifestyle that isn't where they came from Why are we obsessed with not being ourselves?
Grass is always greener.
I guess that's what it is.
You know, it was interesting to hear Al do that where we were like, isn't that insulting?
And I was like, no, I like it.
I remember when my roommates in college were all black dudes the last couple of years.
And anytime a white guy would like code switch or whatever and try to relate to them, I was like, isn't that fucking insulting to you how much they're pandering?
And they were just like, no, nah man at least they're trying like
interesting it was maybe it's a privilege we got to be like yo isn't that insulting and they're
just like nah it's it's cool to finally see someone trying to relate to me that's interesting
because it's better than the opposite but there's a fine line which is racism yeah it's a fine line
if they go too far with the pander and then it's like all right i cringe when i see it yeah but at
the same time yeah i was just about to.
Oh, yeah.
Tom Steyer doing that little dance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even though it looked pretty funny, though.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't I don't know.
Like, do white people just never dance?
I don't get it.
It's white people.
A lot of these white people, especially politicians, dance like it's their first time.
Yeah.
Like, have you ever taught someone how to shoot a basketball and they just shoot it really weird?
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, you haven't ever done that.
Throwing a football the first time.
Throwing a football.
It's so fucking goofy.
They dance like girls throw.
Yes.
White politicians dance like girls throw.
Just no coordination whatsoever.
But it's like I grew up in a dance family so it's a little bit
weird for me yeah do you know what i mean like because i was around it since i'm a kid i see
you have way more rhythm than most white people i thought you were gonna say in general what no
but but isn't that is it weird when you guys look at this when you see white people are like are you
like explain how you don't know how to do a two-step.
No, I just chalk it up to white people can't dance.
Now, I know there's exceptions.
Let's go why.
Let's dig into that.
Why can't white people dance?
What does it take to dance?
Just music going, right?
No, but you have to have done it before.
That's why Toronto girls can dance.
Toronto white girls can dance because they grow up dancing
culturally the and this is i guess more white teenagers should be able to dance because we
grew up i assume in our generation you needed to be able to know how to dance kind of at least
to at least grind your dick up on a girl's butt exactly so that's why i learned how to dance
that's why we learned how to dance but i don't understand why people our age who can't dance.
All white people, what are you doing?
The fucking jitterbug?
Son, the jitterbug was fire.
Why don't white people just do the jitterbug?
Which one is that one?
It's like the swing.
No, no, no.
We got to see it.
I don't know how to fucking.
So we got to see it, son.
I'm going to fuck up the jitterbug.
So you can't be talking shit then.
If you're going to do the swing.
Shake that ass.
Back in it.
Shake that ass.
Show me what you're working on.
So that's what I would have done as a juvenile.
I would have grabbed him by his waist and done the fucking Charleston.
Real talk.
Yeah.
That we would have respected way more.
If you did a white dance while some black song is playing. Oh, man, it was hot. Holy shit, is this That we would have respected way more. If you did a white dance
while some black song
is playing.
Holy shit.
We would love that shit.
Hold on.
Is this why white people
can't dance because
they're trying to do
black dances
that they've never practiced?
That they've never practiced
and they don't know
what the fuck to do.
White people, waltz.
Son, if they did the waltz.
Just do it.
If you waltz to back
that ass up,
that's a win.
Fire.
That's a win.
Done.
Just throw a little extra hip in it and it's a wrap.
Now it's like, oh, we fuck with you because you're doing your shit.
With your thing.
Tower music.
I love that.
I think that makes way more sense.
This guy's flailing on stage not knowing what the fuck he's doing.
He's like, yeah, all right.
I'm moving.
I think this is dancing.
I just don't understand it. I don't understand how you get to that point in your life as an adult
without ever practicing dance.
Now it's making sense. He has practiced dance.
He just has never danced to
that type of music. He's a fucking
70-year-old man. Hip-hop
didn't exist when he was doing his dancing.
If you played some white people shit, he probably
would be able to do it.
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I love this point in elections
when you see white people chucking and jiving.
Oh, when they're really going for it?
It is embarrassing to watch.
It is so funny.
It is so funny, though.
Yeah, we are...
Yeah, all these motherfuckers are so...
That's why you got to love Trump.
And I know I'm going to get eye rolls for this,
but you're already eye rolling.
No, no, but everybody here can say
how much they fucking hate Trump.
I don't care about his policies,
any of that kind of shit.
I'm talking pure entertainment value. When he did the thing where he was at the podium and he was making fun
of mike bloomberg and then he just shrunk at the fucking timing was so good like everything about
it was so okay son he is raw entertainment it's undeniable raw entertainment he is the best insult comic of this generation yeah put him on the roast
literally like it is amazing dude think of and like when you look at these politicians
this is what fucking losers they all are i mean you got to be a true true and true loser to be a fucking politician, dude. Because none of them have
any clapbacks.
And this could be,
and I think I have a theory. Clapbacks are hard.
No, but I got a theory. I got a theory.
That is true. If he is aggressive first,
if he's the aggressor, he puts you on
the defensive. It's hard to clap back on Trump.
I have a theory, though.
And this is why.
Billionaires don't get made fun of in their life.
Right?
Not since that first billion.
Not since that first.
Not since maybe millions.
Not since that first million, maybe.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I think rich white people in general don't even got to be billionaires.
I'm rich.
Y'all make fun of me all the time.
No, but you came from New York.
You were still hanging out with Neworkers in the street no i understand
what you're saying i'm just teasing but like when you're one of these guys yeah now here's the
difference of trump trump is made fun of every single day he's actually used to it he's actually invited it he's the fat puerto rican he's gordito gordito
pelo rubio whatever these fucking things are so now he's heard all the insults right he's leaned
into this character that is so hateable for fucking 50 years to the point maybe 40 years
it's quite possible that's who he is now oh no's say that is him. Let's say it is him.
But he's leaned into it.
He has the hair looking all stupid.
He has all that kind of shit, right?
So he's heard all the other stuff.
These billionaires, they don't want to be in entertainment.
When was the last time Elizabeth Warren,
when did Elizabeth Warren get made fun of before Pocahontas?
I never heard an Elizabeth Warren joke.
Never once.
Never once.
And why would you make fun of the person that's just trying to help?
All these Dems are, hey, we're just trying to help. And she's honestly adorable, like a grandma.
I'm not going to make fun of Elizabeth Warren. You're going to make fun of someone who literally comes to your town and says,
hey, we want to pay teachers more. Shut up, maggot!
You're not going to do that. So for the first time
in a billionaire's life like mike bloomberg mike bloomberg has
probably not been made fun of or even been his face to his face or even been criticized
to his face no way he's been called short by even his closest friends for 40 years
and i do think it's a little different with him because he was mayor of new york
but i could also see potentially him just being insulated from all
the insults and all the hate. You don't want to be
in entertainment. You saw him in fucking debates.
They came at him. He's like,
I don't know what to do.
I'm sorry. That was worth $65 billion.
Shut up, bitch.
That's what I would have said. Hey, bitch, shut up, bitch.
Stop talking shit, bitch. I still don't hate
Bloomberg. I'm going to be honest with you. No, no. I'm not
anti-Bloomberg. What I'm trying to say is why
they're so bad at the insults,
right? If you take some
broke motherfucker that got nothing,
he's gonna be ready to go. Yo, you
know who ready to go, honestly? Who
she don't clap back super hard, but she
handles it all super well is Ocasio
Cortez. People try to shit on her
all the time. She's a bartender, son.
She had Puerto Rican dudes trying to get
some pussy while they're getting old fashions.
And that is to y'all's point of like, she's fine.
It just rolls right off of her.
She makes little videos making jokes about it, whatever.
Her clapbacks are good.
She ready.
Clapbacks are good.
She ready.
But she got that from being a bartender.
Yeah.
Hey, let her have 40 years of not being a bartender.
And Trump.
And let her be a millionaire for 40 years.
And then Trump had a, what's his show?
The Apprentice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. his show the apprentice yeah he was
just making fun of motherfuckers all day he's working on insults i guess what i'm trying to
say is like when you are treated a different way by the world like for example any king of any
country is not going to know how to clap back no not even have a chance because he doesn't practice
it hot girls don't have personalities because no one ever treats them like a person there was a
whole school of thought these pickup artists guys There was a whole school of thought.
These pickup artists, guys.
There was a whole school of thought.
You don't have to pretend you weren't one of them.
I was not a pickup artist.
Of course, I read the book like everybody else.
So that makes you one.
No, no, no.
You didn't read the book.
You had a top hat.
Son, I was out here getting pussy.
Don't skip over that.
I would never identify.
I'll explain why I differentiate.
I never liked the idea that there was a script that you were supposed to go off.
It felt inorganic and I didn't feel like I was getting the pussy.
But you bought the top hat.
Of course.
A hundred percent.
I couldn't afford a chain.
You know what I mean?
Like you get a big ass chain.
What's the difference?
I don't know.
You're peacocking.
You're trying to do something That's gonna attract
Yeah yeah yeah
Females
Now
If you can't afford
Something expensive
Like a car or a chain
You wear something weird
So that girls go
Wait why you got that weird shit on
Right
It's just
Baseline
Something you learn from
Human psychology
What
That's gotta be a topic
You gotta
Help the assholes out
For sure
You know
Teach us
Teach us the ways
Jedi masters You wanna know You wanna know The game And you know You got to help the assholes out. For sure. You know, teach us the ways, Jedi Masters.
You want to know the game.
And you know what's so fucking funny about this guy who wrote the book The Game?
Now he's wrote a book about why that was horrible and you should be in a relationship and why it's good.
But at the end of the book, he makes that turn too.
Yeah, I guess it's kind of fun.
But it was, listen, we don't have to get back to it.
Here, you want a tip for picking up girls?
Here's the number one tip for picking up girls.
Don't walk up to a girl.
That's the number one tip.
Don't walk up to them.
Situate yourself at the bar so they have to walk by you.
Okay.
Now, just the psychology of you talking to a girl as she walks by you,
it seems like she's approaching you when you go hunt a girl oh so you still initiate convo but you just initiate just let them while
she's walking by you so it's okay you know what i mean i mean it's like a million different dudes
are gonna walk up and try to do some shit but if she got to go to the bathroom and you're kind of in the way of that,
situate yourself correctly in the bar.
That's why like the table shit is so stupid.
Like most of the table shit removes you from where any girls are.
So now you've got to have one guy rounding out.
You're peacocking, but now you've got to have a guy out there hunting the girls.
Oh, no, stop.
The table was great.
I got plenty of pussy back in the day because of the table. Yeah, because back in the day. Because you just bring them over to the table was the table was great so i've got i got plenty of pussy back in the day
because of the table yeah because you just bring them over to the table but the back of the day
tables were different right so back in the day there was like now we're getting a little off
topic but like back in the day there was like seven to ten tables that surrounded the dance
floor in the club right now the dance floor is way smaller and there's way more tables
the whole nightclub industry is about tables now.
So now you could be situated four tables back where you got to walk girls through five different tables just to get to your table.
And you're not even close to the dance floor where the girls are.
And girls would never organically be hanging out by your table.
If your table is not close to a place where girls are organically hanging out, you are a sucker.
Don't ever be there your shit got to be right next to where the girls are so the girls can place themselves by you because you know that they'll find it yeah you got a little bottle
rats they'll see it and if you're having a good time they'll be dancing by you automatically and
then you want to drink but now they've approached you you've already flipped the whole psychology
the whole shit that's my so what i didn't like this what i didn't like about
the whole pickup artist thing and this is what we were talking about to the insult thing is the
whole premise of the pickup artist thing was hey we're going to insult girls and lower their
self-esteem so that they view themselves lower than you are oh nagging exactly nagging yes exactly
so this this so for example if you walked up to them and they looked at you like you were a seven,
but you treat them badly enough that they start thinking they're a six, then they'll
be attracted to you.
And my whole thing was, I'm better than you already.
So you just don't know it yet.
So I don't got to make you feel feel bad you feel as good as you want i
want you to feel as good as you want because eventually you're gonna find out who i am
this is before i was ever on tv or anything like that so it's like i'm dope you just don't know
i'm dope yet so we're gonna find ways to find out that i'm dope that's it and eventually you're
gonna do it but like these
nerds started making fun of girls and getting pussies they're like i just gotta be mean to
women to get pussy it was corny it was like yo make a girl feel dope as long as you got value
she'll realize same as you know what i mean like simple as that shit that works now just be busy
when you busy that's the ultimate neg i can't hang out yeah oh my god anyway so that's
the thing i think that they're not like you said hot girls are not used to being made fun of yeah
politicians rich people go go rich people are hot girls yeah rich successful people hot girls you
think tom cruise been made fun of recently yo Yo, I had this thought the other day.
I'm like, I kind of hope Trump changes the law.
What law?
When he gets reelected for a third term.
Which law?
That you can only have two terms as president.
Ah, yes.
You hope he pulls a FDR?
Yeah.
So Obama can run again.
Interesting.
That would be dope.
You think he would?
I would hope so.
I don't think he would.
If not him, Clinton.
Clinton, he wants that spotlight again.
Clinton's too old, man.
That motherfucker's old.
He had mad heart attacks and shit.
It'd be interesting, though, Obama.
I'd like to see how Obama deals.
Obama's just so smart.
He's like a truly intelligent guy.
So I'm curious to
see like how he would handle a Trump. And the charisma he has, like he, I think he'd have some
nice snapbacks. Yeah. I'm curious what he would have as far as snapbacks. I don't know if he'd
be that great in the moment, maybe, but I think that he'd be, he's psychologically superior to
Trump just in terms of of how his brain works.
So I think he could really analyze what Trump does and have great retorts for it after the fact.
And then say it on a night show or say it on Twitter or a podcast or these types of things.
It'd be an interesting dynamic.
No, but he...
Because the way Obama was in the debates, like, killed.
He was nice, bro.
I would like to see them go against each other.
There was a time in the debate, one of my favorite times,
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I think it was Romney.
Or maybe it was Bush.
I don't know.
But Bush was talking about, we need to expand our military.
You know what I mean?
Like, Obama has, I think it was Romney.
Obama has shrunk in our military.
You know, we only have, what do you say?
We only have X amount of boats or some shit like that.
We only have X amount of tanks.
You know, we should have way more tanks.
We only have X amount of tanks or something like that.
And Obama goes, well, we have less tanks for the same reason we have less military guys on horseback.
Because that's not how war is fought anymore.
It was just like a fire line.
As technology improves, you do different things.
You use different shit.
And it was just like he understood
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yeah what you want to talk about first man i want to have Spencer Paysinger in here. Spencer's he was on a podcast before and.
And he's got an amazing take about the Patriots and Bill Belichick and what Bill Belichick's secret weapon is.
Maybe we'll touch on it later, later in the pod. But he can really explain it way better than me.
me but i basically his take was and uh he listens to the pod thanks for coming out to the show spence and then spence used to play in the nfl right and he goes one of the reasons why belichick
is so dominant is because belichick is two people right and i go what do you mean he goes there's
this guy that's on the staff he's not a coach he's like an assistant or something
like that his name is ernie adams and i started to wikipedia ernie adams you guys can wikipedia
ernie adams he's this kind of shadowy figure who's existed within football and outside of football
he just left football randomly and started working at wall street now you don't get to leave football
and like immediately work on wall street as part of an investment bank and like kill it whenever you want unless you're kind of a special dude.
Right.
But apparently they met at the – I think Belichick's father was the coach or like a scout at the Army Academy or something like that.
I'm not exactly sure.
And so they met there when they were in like high school
and became friends and basically he is the equivalent of money ball for football
how so crazy stats data analysis he's the guy that was like we should go for it more on fourth
down punting is actually bad huh he's the he's the the brain in terms of i remember him
being talked about because they were doing an analytics thing yes saying how many coaches
embrace analytics and bill part of bill belichick was like i don't really embrace analytics bullshit
and then somebody's like you got ernie adams he's like the fucking analytics he is analytics and
that's why you can go from football to Wall Street. Yeah. Because they're like, oh, this guy
understands data. It's called money
ball. Money ball. They know exactly.
Then he went to money money. Yeah.
And then he came back to money ball.
So apparently, and what they do is
they don't market him at all. They don't say anything.
And respect to him that he's letting Belichick
get all the credit for, you know, partially
his very hard work. But they have all
these innovative techniques
to scout players um they have innovative techniques for uh reps in uh practice for example
a db runs way more miles in practice than a linebacker or a dn would simply because the
routes are longer okay you've heard about this right no i just didn't make sense so they're like oh we need to rest dbs on this day because we're actually
grinding them too hard that by the end of the season it's going to increase injury etc right
so he's transitioned the nfl into a more of a data game and other teams are starting to pick up on it
obviously philadelphia eagles used that guy during their super bowl run and now he's with miami
but there is a he's an interesting kind of shadowy figure that i think plays a much bigger part in
the patriot success and uh if you do remember remember during the uh the scandal not this
last year i think it was a few years ago, where they were recording plays?
Oh, yeah.
They were recording the practices of the opponents.
Not the flight gate, the other one.
Yes.
Right.
Spy gate.
Spy gate.
That footage was going back to none other than?
Ernie Adams.
Now Ernie Adams is not a coach on the team, so I guess it's okay.
He's just a data guy.
Right, right, right.
I think Spencer was saying he doesn't even have an official role or title.
Like, he might just be getting brown bags of money on his side.
Yo, real talk.
If you combine that with Belichick, who's a fucking brilliant game planner.
Yeah.
Forget it.
It's over.
Forget it.
Dude, I remember hearing. Maximize efficiency.
I remember Belichick's strategy against the Rams in the Super Bowl,
which is like this insane offense, how do you stop them?
And it was, oh, the coach sent signals into Jared Goff
up until like 10 seconds in, so why don't we just give them one look,
have the coach send in a play, and then we'll switch our look.
And now Jared Goff doesn't know what the fuck to do.
He can't audible.
He's not that guy.
He's been getting help from his coach.
Let's take the coach out of it.
Like, brilliant game plan. Oh, that's what they did
to remove McVay. That's what fucked Goff so hard.
Yeah. Oh, shit.
Yeah, because McVay would
just send in signals like,
hey, this is the look they're giving you. This is the play.
Up until, they've cut off the mic communication
like 15 seconds left in the game clock or
play clock or whatever. So once they cut
that communication, Belichick knows. That's what, that's how it is across the league. At 15 seconds left in the game clock or play clock or whatever. So once they cut that communication, Belichick knows.
That's how it is across the league.
At 15 seconds, you can't talk to your quarterback anymore.
Okay, so we'll give two looks.
We line up in one look, and then with 10 seconds left in the play clock,
switch to another look.
And now Jared Goff got to figure that shit out in 10 seconds,
and he couldn't do it with 40 or 35 or whatever it is.
This is genius.
Who is the most effective person on your team that we
need to stop sometimes it's the coach how do you remove a coach they literally probably sat down
and had this exact conversation how do we remove the coach yeah well i mean you know he's giving
plays you know i guess up until 15 seconds wait up until what yeah oh shit let's not show him any
defense and then after that leave it on golf the only difference is belichick wasn't surprised by
how many belichick knows.
He's the guy,
how to remove the coach?
Oh, they got the play clock
until 15 seconds
he's sending calls in
so we just give him two looks
and the defense
and Peter King said it
on an interview on the ticket.
He said,
from everybody he's talked to,
players love Bill Belichick
because they know
if I trust him
and do my job,
which is the fucking team motto,
do your job,
we'll win interesting
that that is how you get players to sacrifice yeah it is very hard and i understand it from
a player's perspective it's very hard to sacrifice if it's not successful yeah right it's very hard
to tell someone hey do your job if it doesn't work out eventually you start having that obj
thing where you go well why don't you let me do me and maybe we could win you have the Terrell Owens Chad Ochocinco why don't you let me do me and then we
can win you have the wide receiver complex let's just call it that let's literally we have the wide
receiver well if I get mine then we could let me just score that's what I do is score that is
interesting but if you know that what exactly what you do will let your team win and you trust that
man all of a sudden you get in line everybody falls in line and I think that's what you do will let your team win and you trust that man,
all of a sudden,
you get in line.
Everybody falls in line.
And I think that's what made Brady the perfect third part
of this triumvirate
or whatever you want to call it.
Because Brady is the best player
in the league,
but he'll get in line.
Brady will say,
okay, you're not going to surround
my offense with weapons.
I trust you.
Put him on the defense.
I trust we'll win this way.
And when your leader
is winning Super Bowls
and trusting the coach,
it's Tim Duncan and Greg Popovich.
I was about to say Tim Duncan.
And did you see this story with Belichick?
He skipped the combine to go.
I want to get back to this in one second.
What's very interesting about this is Tim Duncan and Popovich.
Does Popovich come from a military?
I don't know for a fact but I wouldn't be surprised
he never coached or went to or anything
like that can you look up Greg Popovich military
please
interesting
because I would imagine
and maybe some of the assholes listening right now could tell us
but I remember I would imagine that is the exact
thing that they tell you in the military
everybody has a role here
everybody has a job.
You do your job, and then together we get this shit done.
Don't go out there trying to be last action hero.
Don't be hero.
Don't play hero ball.
Don't play hero ball in the military.
Popovic served five years of required active duty in the U.S. Air Force,
during which he toured Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union
with the U.S. Armed Forces basketball team.
Makes perfect sense.
And if you notice, on the Spursurs there's no star yeah even when you had
one of the greatest players in nba history he wasn't even really a star he played a role it
was the most dominant role he wasn't marketed like a star but he wasn't marketed it was the
spurt you had manu ginobili who's arguably one of the best two guards in history if real basketball
guys will go yo that motherfucker is one of the best ever.
Come off the bench.
Could have started and carried a lot of teams, for real.
Came off the bench.
Sacrifice for the greater good.
That military background will fucking do things, man.
It's really interesting.
That is.
And that's why Belichick got no problem cutting people.
Look, you're not effective anymore.
This is the military.
It's about the unit. Let's go go you're the weakest link on the platoon
be out
and we think that it's unfair when it comes to sports
but when it came to war we'd be like bro you're past your prime
you're gonna get all of us killed
being out there past your prime
so if he looks at the game
truly like it's life or death
you would never put someone out there
that was less than
their capability yeah hurts the whole whole platoon squadron whatever and you can sit them
down be like why would you why would you think that you're more important than all these other
guys yeah well if i play you and you're not as good as you used to be you're hurting their chances
at winning do you want to do that and what he does so brilliantly and i think we're from what
i'm hearing everything could change.
But from what ESPN and shit is saying,
it's about to happen again.
He is brilliant at getting rid of you one year too early
as opposed to one year too late.
So we could transition right now to the Brady talk.
And Brady, this isn't necessarily too early,
but he had Jimmy G waiting to get rid of Brady too early.
Get him out early.
We'll be good.
Now, Garoppolo, I don't know what he would have been
about the injury, et cetera, but Belichick was ready. We'll be good. Now, Garoppolo, I don't know what he would have been about the injury, etc.,
but Belichick was ready.
We'll make this switch.
Kraft was the one that said, no, Brady's the guy.
Trade Jimmy G.
Belichick didn't want to.
Belichick is famous for getting rid of you one year too early instead of one year too late.
What do you think happens with Brady?
I can't see him leaving, to be honest with you,
and they don't have anybody waiting in the wings to take his spot.
I can't see him leaving, to be honest with you,
and they don't have anybody waiting in the wings to take his spot.
But all I'm hearing is, again, on ESPN,
sources are saying they'd be, quote, shocked if Brady stays.
I don't know how reliable that is.
Gun to my head, I think he stays.
I think it's guaranteed he stays.
You see Edelman putting that pressure on him?
That kind of makes me think he knows he's staying. He's staying, bro.
Because if that's your boy, you're not really going to do that to your boy.
Yeah, I think he's staying. I think that they're having some if that's your boy, you're not really going to do that to your boy. Yeah.
I think he's staying.
I think that they're having some fun with the media.
You know, Boston media loves to have fun.
I think he's staying.
I think that they can't sign.
Correct me if I'm wrong because the CBA isn't figured out just yet.
I don't know.
I think you can.
I think you can.
I know the Cowboys talked to Dak last week, I think.
But they haven't signed him, right?
I think the same holding pattern is happening with Dak as is for
Brady. I think.
I think I read that. But
the point is,
yeah, the point is, I
can't fathom that there's a world where he wouldn't just
sign another one-year deal. Maybe he wants more
years, and then that's the hang-up. But if
he would go to Belichick
and be like, yeah, let's just do one year.
Let's knock it out one more year.
I think he would take that in a heartbeat.
You don't think Belichick would take that?
Yeah, I think he might even say,
give me one more year.
I'll take just one year.
I'll take less money again.
Give me weapons for fuck's sake.
Because he had nobody to throw to.
Gronk is gone.
Yeah.
He had Edelman.
He actually had everyone to throw to.
And then they got rid of all of them.
That's how fucking committed they are
to the Patriot way. You got to respect it respect it yeah he had an amazing offense right i mean yeah i can't i
mean he's had every weapon no this past season remember josh gordon he went from having like
oh yeah josh gordon ab josh gordon edelman i think edelman might have been suspended for
steroids this year right a little bit but then. But then, ideally, if AB doesn't...
I wonder how the season goes if AB doesn't get accused of abuse.
I mean, probably do it.
I think they would have definitely made the playoffs.
They made the playoffs.
I mean, go further.
The championship?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe.
We'll see.
I don't know.
What else we thinking, guys?
You heard...
I mean, we spoke about a little bit about the Tyson Fury-Wilder rematch.
Yeah.
Wilder wants it enough.
He put that goofy-ass video out of him.
I'm a king.
I'm your king.
Did you see that?
I didn't.
I didn't see it.
Oh, God.
It's so fucking sad.
But I'm happy.
I want to see it.
I want to see it.
How are black people not embarrassed by him?
Nah.
He's, right now, he has enough stock for one more fight if he gets
fucked up again then it's like all right you're not our guy okay you're getting one more chance
i mean there's not a chance in hell he's there's not a chance now you can't turn into a good boxer
you're not and this is shocking you're not strong enough to knock fury out so what are you gonna do you gotta hope you
hit him on the nose get lucky you gotta hope you drop him and then he's so wobbled that you can
finish him within the round that's what you gotta hope he took your best punch one of the best
punches ever got back up boxed his ass off apparently in that last that round where he
got knocked down you said this and I heard this somewhere else
yeah
he loses the round
because he gets knocked down
but after he gets knocked down
and gets up
he starts winning that
like that minute
yeah you heard him
that was
and apparently
that we're talking about
the first fight
just right now
and apparently
that round
is where Fury learned
how to fight
Wilder
so for the first time
in that fight
he actually took it to
Wilder
yeah okay
that's what I heard that too
and then he was like, oh, shit.
That's how you beat him.
That's how you beat him.
Yeah, Teddy Atlas had a great podcast about it.
Are you still working on him with Teddy?
So like, Teddy, did you record that podcast where he was talking about the fight?
There's a couple.
Okay.
So Teddy Atlas had a great podcast where he was talking about how you take out a puncher.
There are different ways.
There's one you could try to outbox him where you stay away,
but the value of being a boxer or like-
Oh, he also said you could load the gloves like Fury was doing.
Al's got this crazy theory.
Loaded gloves, huh?
You know, what is it called?
Like the extreme parts of black Twitter?
Yeah.
It has this loaded glove theory.
It doesn't matter.
He loaded them with his fists that he then beat the shit out of while they were hit with.
Cement.
So I would hope that that cement weighed 40 pounds so he could be like, look, I was carrying around 40 pounds and it didn't bother me at all inside the ring.
So there's a thing.
Okay, when you're fighting a puncher, you either try to outbox him.
Problem with that is when you're trying to outbox a puncher,
that puncher is not afraid of your punches at all.
And they could sit down on their punches.
And that's what happened the first fight while they're sat down on those shots
and then connected.
The other way to fight a puncher is make him go back.
Punchers need to set their feet in order to generate that power.
You can't just punch hard.
You need to sit down on your fucking punches to let it go.
And what Fury did is made Wilder back up to the point that he couldn't let his punches go.
And when he did, they didn't have poppies he couldn't sit down on them
right and it's a dangerous strategy because you're basically going okay instead of me running away
from the bear i'm gonna run directly towards the bear right and then i'm gonna hope that the bear
doesn't know how to you know fight going back right and um and it fucking worked out what are
the chances wilder learns how to fight going back?
No, no chance, no chance.
I think he gets stronger, and I think he changes up his tactic.
He tries to stand there instead of going back.
But then at that point, doesn't it become a boxing match again,
and Fury's a better boxer?
Yeah, there's no way.
The only way that he can win is what I said earlier.
He gets lucky, he clips him, and then he finishes him within the round.
You need to finish him within the round.
It's just not.
Or you have your promotional company bake the judges
and you find a way where you can go 12 rounds.
But it looks like Fury can just beat the shit out of them.
There's one other thing where you really try to work the judges
and make them take away points from Fury for holding or leaning on you.
They took away one point during the fight.
But again, we're talking about like...
Yeah, that was a lot of that.
Yeah, you're...
It's a lot of that.
This guy's fucking...
It's a whole lot of that.
It's so stupid.
It's a lot of that.
Didn't it hurt Wilder to come in heavy, though?
He's a king.
Wilder came in...
He's your king, bro.
He's a warrior.
Wilder came in 240, and that was too heavy, right?
That fucked him up.
230.
But he was conditioned.
I mean, who knows?
Does it... What is it? In hindsight, it's always... He's carrying an extra 60 pounds into the ring. What he was conditioned. I mean, who knows?
What is it?
He's carrying an extra 60 pounds into the ring.
What?
Wow.
20 that he gained and 40 that he chose to walk in there.
Like a weight vest.
Okay, we can talk about Tony Romo's contract.
We can talk about Barry and Bernie Sanders.
Oh, yeah.
One thing real quick while we're talking about boxing for boxing fans out there. Oh, yeah.
Even if you're not a boxing fan, if you want to just see like beautiful boxing and like fighting,
there's a great fight.
You can watch the highlights on DAZN.
It was Mikey Garcia versus Jesse Vargas, right?
And I'm not too familiar with Vargas,
but Mikey Garcia has one of the greatest jabs I've ever seen.
So Mikey Garcia, I forget what weight they're fighting around.
Maybe around like 140 or something.
And Mikey Garcia's jab,
the closest thing I can liken it to is a frog's tongue
when it's snatching a mosquito out the sky.
It is, or like a snake when it lunges.
It is completely out of nowhere, right?
You'll watch him and he goes, he doesn't have very long arms.
So he gets full extension on the jab.
Body totally straightens out and you cannot time it.
It's out of nowhere.
If you want to see what a jab does and how a jab affects a fight,
you'll see him slowly break down Jesse Vargas with his, with his jab.
And he beautifully follows the jab with a straight right hand.
I mean, it's gorgeous.
You just watch the highlight clip.
It's like 16 minutes or something like that.
Kind of scroll through quick.
But if you want to see a real boxing technician
who also likes to brawl,
go watch those two guys fight
on DAZN on YouTube.
You just type it in.
But it's great.
Okay, what do you want to talk about next?
We could talk Harden, Giannis.
Let's talk about it.
That's some beef.
So James Harden, my man is just sensitive to me.
I don't know.
They're doing the all-star voting.
Giannis takes a little swipe, I guess.
He drafts.
I don't even remember who he drafts over Harden.
But he said.
Kemba Walker.
Kemba Walker.
I want someone on my team who's going to pass.
James Harden basically says. Don't I average more assists than Kemba Walker. I want someone on my team who's going to pass. James Harden basically says,
Don't I average more assists than Kemba?
Yeah, and then says,
Basically, it's easy to score the way Giannis scores.
There's no grace to it.
He just goes in and dunks, right?
There's no skill.
No skill.
He goes, I wish I was seven foot and all I had to do was dunk.
There's no skill to that.
I have to learn how to play the game of basketball.
He's right.
Yeah.
He's 100% right. I i mean there's far less skill
to what jonas does than to what harden does like harden is arguably one of the most skilled players
in the history of the game he's six seven and he can he has the ball on a string he can hit
jumpers from anywhere he can finish at the rim he could pass beautifully is unbelievable i mean
jonas is jonas's greatest skill is being seven feet and having touch
and athleticism most people at that size are goofy or knock need or they they don't have the handle
that you would require to do that they don't have any kind of like jumping ability he's like a
fucking leopard out there yeah lean and muscular and bounces yeah that. That's like an elk. It's like a fucking elk.
I'd eat him.
Put some jalapenos on that man.
Real talk.
But that's the skill.
You know what I mean?
Say again?
James Harden could just learn defense.
You know what I mean?
Like you're so skilled at offense, you don't have to learn defense and you can still win an MVP.
You're also not going to win a championship that way.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
The Rocks are 12 and 2.
He's not even their best player in the last 15, 16 it's russ it's russ but here's the reality
john is not going to win a championship either he only ever yeah i mean if he is he's got to be the
second or third option on a team you cannot win a championship i think he can do it i think he
might do it this year what do you say uh shackq Kobe the first three so the game was different
and back then bigs could be bigs and they didn't have to do anything else you know it's like the
way I equate uh the way I equate like the power forward the old power forward now it's almost like
like the the old comic it doesn't want to learn how to cut clips or post anything.
It's just like, bro, you're a dinosaur.
The game has changed now.
Now you have to do these things.
These are requirements.
So if you're a power forward in the league,
you have to be able to shoot a three ball.
You have to be able to dribble.
You have to be able to pass.
And Giannis can't shoot well enough consistently
in order to be effective in the playoffs.
And you saw it in the All-Star game in the fourth quarter, right?
The All-Star game in the fourth quarter, he just couldn't even get a shot off.
It wasn't like he was missing.
LeBron was getting shots off but missing.
Giannis couldn't shoot the ball.
And that's what's going to happen to him in the playoffs when the buttholes get real tight, you know,
and you have elite defenders playing elite defense on you.
I think they make the finals, and that could happen in the finals.
But I think they'll make the finals this year.
And I think they could win.
The only person I think that can stop him is a healthy Kawhi or the Clippers in general.
LeBron not going to guard him one on one enough to really fuck with him.
But no one has to guard him in the playoffs is my point.
Like, just let him shoot.
You want Giannis to beat you shooting the ball like you treat him like rondo in the playoffs that's what i would do you if we
lose because jonas hit seven threes if we lose a seven game series because he went seven for ten
four games shooting threes then we're supposed to lose and i can sleep fine doing that the question
is will he ever become an elite enough shooter where will he ever become an elite enough shooter where will he
ever become an elite enough shooter or maybe develop an elite enough post game which requires
him to be able to shoot to where he can be effective in the playoffs and i don't think
that he does i don't know if he has the touch i think he can i see where you're coming from i
think he can i think he might do it this year we'll see i think it's clippers lakers in the west and the lakers in the finals don't scare me as much as the clippers
i can see him getting to the playoffs in the east because no team is good in these yeah like
literally there's no good team in these the rappers are playing great but in the playoffs
who do they have they're gonna fall apart like there's nobody what's his fault kyle lowry's
asshole is gonna get fucking tight he's gonna you to not score a couple of games. Pascal's balling his ass off.
That's great.
And then Fred Van Fleet is going to be your number three.
I mean, the guy's got fucking heart.
Don't get me wrong.
The Sixers could be salty in the playoffs,
but I actually think they're going to miss Jimmy Butler.
You know what I mean?
In that game seven against the Raptors, Jimmy Butler was balling.
I think he's the guy in game seven that steps up.
I don't think they have that guy.
Shaq Milton, that was cute.
I don't expect that to happen too many more times.
He ain't going to do it.
76ers, they have Embiid, but Embiid doesn't have the fucking mental strength
to manage himself in the playoffs.
Simmons can't shoot.
Simmons can't shoot, so you do the same thing you do to Giannis.
No, it's just going to be Bucs-Raptors.
I guess Celtics.
Celtics are sneaky.
I mean, no, we're not talking about Celtics,
but if like Jason Tatum keeps playing the way he's playing,
you know what I mean?
Jalen Brown keeps hooping the way he's hooping.
That's tough.
That's tough in the playoffs.
And you have a guy that can get you two or three.
That's the thing.
Come playoffs, you need the two or three guy.
Giannis can't guarantee you it.
Jason can.
LeBron can.
Kawhi can. LeBron can. Kawhi can.
PG-13 can.
You know, Jonas cannot.
I do, and maybe it was just nobody knew how to guard him,
but I remember him dismantling the Celtics a couple of games in a row
in the conference semifinals.
Yeah, but did you see what the Raptors did to them?
That was Kawhi, though.
Kawhi different. Kawhi can do that to LeBron. But LeBron canors did to them. That was Kawhi, though. Kawhi different.
Kawhi can do that to LeBron.
But LeBron can do that to Giannis.
That's what I'd be interested in.
That would be a fun matchup to see in the finals.
LeBron versus Giannis going at it.
And you know what?
LeBron doesn't have to save himself for offense anymore because they got that fucking unibrow
guy.
Yeah.
That unibrow guy can put 50 on your asshole.
And he's going to put 50 on your asshole because
Jonas is busy guarding LeBron
and then if Jonas goes over to that unibrow guy
LeBron's going to drop 50
on your asshole
so who are you going to put on both of those guys
to guard your asshole
I say leave your asshole exposed
whenever you can
I also think the supporting cast of the bucks
one to five one to eight whatever is better than the lakers after lebron and ad kuzma is your third
option and i don't believe in yo kuzma sucks bro where how you got jayden smith's hairstyle
come on yeah aim higher yo his fits his fits be hit or miss his His fits be miss. His hair sucks.
And Zion Williamson was bullying this guy.
I mean, it was sad.
It looked like a father playing his teenage kid that was talking shit in their backyard. Well, I mean, Zion's going to look that way against a lot of players.
Yeah, but he's not going to look that way against Braun.
Nah, he backed up Braun.
There's a post-up clip of him backing up Braun.
There was a beautiful exchange at the end of the first half.
Yeah.
And it wasn't LeBron on Zion, but he does have a clip of him backing up Braun in the post and scoring over him.
And how did he score over him?
He backed him up, shot it over him, turnaround jumper, little baby, kind of like the baby hook Shaq thing he used to do,
the little bunny shot.
It wasn't that
but it was just
power
and
how was it defended
by LeBron
post just
one arm on him
arm bar
did he jump to try to block it
I don't know if he could
man Zion is so quick with it
but I think
LeBron
you know what's interesting
I think about
LeBron and Zion
I'm not worried about that
I think LeBron likes Zion
I don't think he hates him
but I think this is his Kobe if Zion. I'm not worried about that. I'm not worried about that. I think LeBron likes Zion. I don't think he hates him, but I think this is his Kobe,
if he's Jordan.
This is the guy that's the most like him since him.
And they're different games, for sure.
Yeah.
Zion can't pass anything,
but just in terms of sheer physicality.
Yeah.
Game-wise, I think Luka is LeBron,
minus the athleticism.
Yeah.
But athletically,
Zion is the closest thing we've seen to LeBron
in terms of just,
this guy is fucking fast.
Freak of nature, yeah.
Top, powerful.
Yeah.
Like, shouldn't be,
shouldn't have the body he has,
but he has it.
Yeah.
And I think LeBron
takes a little bit,
takes that a little bit personally
in the sense of like,
competitively, like,
I'm gonna make sure everybody knows
I'm still a fucking guy.
I love it.
I love it.
You see a little jab, step, jump,
three-pointer,
he hit to seal the game? Yeah. Beautiful doing it. I love it. You see a little jab step, jump three-pointer, he hit to seal the game?
Yeah.
Beautiful doing it.
I love it.
I mean, it was great.
Do you agree with Stephen A?
He said if KD was in the game,
if KD was playing, Nets would be number two in the East.
I have to assume that Kyrie would find a way to fuck it up.
Healthy KD, no Kyrie,i i believe it i have to assume
yeah especially in a weak east man holy shit east is weak but if kd was playing on any team in the
east you got to give him a shot uh if but i have to assume kairi would find a way to fuck it up
he would find a way to fuck up the chemistry find a way to piss kd off find a way to like
piss the other players off he'd find a way like he did with the celtics he would find a way to piss kd off find a way to like piss the other players off he'd find a way
like he did with the celtics he would find a way and then how do you feel about uh kd possibly
playing in the olympics he's out for the season but he said he wants to play in the olympics i
like that i don't mind that yeah give him some reps because you want real reps and you don't
have to play him more than like 20 minutes a game because you have that 12-man roster of just
savages and there's a weird thing that i don't know if it still happens but i don't have to play him more than like 20 minutes a game because you have that 12-man roster of just savages and there's a weird thing that i don't know if it still happens but i know the first
game is great for the olympics too starting 2008 with the kobe redeemed team yeah it elevated a
bunch of people's game to play on that level kd i remember played for like the world championship
team in 2010 or something and then came back kind of a different player there's a thing that happens
with a lot of these guys where they come back better, and that might be good for KD,
not that he has another level he can hit,
but it might be good to just knock the rust off
if you haven't played all year.
Because you're with the fucking, you're with the alphas.
Like, we're all working together.
Yeah.
I think it's really good for him.
So next year should be good for New York a little bit.
We'll see.
I mean, Nick's still fucked.
But listen, i know we've
been going for a while uh you know we've got some stuff to trim but uh i think that uh before we go
i just want to i want to i want to go uh i'm sorry it was good. It is his fault. So, uh, so there's a, uh, something I want to touch on. Um, it's kind of crazy. Uh, this is this Tony
Romo contract for anybody doesn't know Tony Romo is he's a, uh, he was a quarterback for the Dallas
Cowboys. Greatest loser in the history of sports. Nobody has won as much while consistently losing
in football as Tony Romo. Wow, that's interesting.
You mean like lose when it matters.
They talk about it on the ticket, so it's not like I'm the first person that thought
about this, but like the guy won two playoff games his entire career.
And I don't think it's his fault.
I think his supporting cast was bad, blah, blah, blah.
But this guy gets all the fucking victor, the spoils of a victor.
He's got the biggest broadcasting contract in NFL history.
He retires.
The whole city of Dallas
celebrates him to no end.
He fucking starts
for the Mavericks one game.
Like, this guy gets celebrated
and he's playing golf
whenever the fuck he wants to.
Potentially missing games
to go golf in tournaments.
Like, he might not
broadcast games
if he's good enough
to make the cut
of a golf tournament
that he wants to play in,
which he never will be.
But if he is,
if he actually wins for once, they'll just let him miss a game or two. So he's good enough to make the cut of a golf tournament that he wants to play in which he never will be but if he is if he actually wins for once they'll just let him miss a game or two so so he's getting a 17 million dollar a year contract to call the games for
whom cbs with jim nance for cbs with jim nance um the average player in the NFL makes $4 million a year, right?
I think we calculated that last week.
I cannot for the life of me figure out how this is worth it.
He's not the reason anybody watches the game.
Most people, when they watch football, they're at a bar.
They don't even hear the volume, right?
They're busy licking buffalo sauce off their
fingers and then they're just watching the game in between getting drunk with their buddies
i think like a lot of football fans who are like fans they want to hear the announcing hey great
that's cute they don't want to hear it that bad i disagree i think they've run the numbers on this
because they had phil sims who nobody liked with jim nance okay and i think they saw they had to see some kind of bump and the competition in the afc hasn't been
incredible they think that the bump was to romo yeah so i know this is a little different than
announcing but it's almost like saying uh tmt halftime show like i feel whatever they ask for
pay them because that i look forward to the fucking halftime show coming on.
You're talking about inside the NBA.
Inside the NBA.
Yeah.
So with Romo, I've never heard of anybody talking about an announcer of a football game.
So the fact that he's.
But you have heard them talking about Romo before this?
No, no, no.
Before the contract.
Did you ever hear them saying Tony Romo is good?
Yes.
Yeah.
Like people like people in general talk about how good he is.
I'll say this.
Let's try to be objective because I think it's absolutely stupid
if you're just talking about like is this a smart or dumb thing to do.
But let's try to be objective.
Let's play some money ball with this.
Every week, Tony Romo calls some play.
It ends up happening.
Somebody puts it on Twitter.
Excuse me.
It goes viral.
There is a dollar amount that you can attribute to that type of exposure.
Yes.
And PR.
So maybe they looked at it like, wow, we're getting a million unique views or something like that a week that we wouldn't be getting.
Wow.
People are tuning into this thing.
Maybe it's worth $17 million.
I don't think it is.
I think it's an egregious waste of money.
But maybe they've run the numbers and they thought that that is his value.
I also think.
I can't fathom.
And I didn't agree.
There is a weird subset of fans in every sport who shits all over all the announcers.
Unless you're really bad, I don't notice.
You've got to be really bad for me to be like, oh, this guy sucks.
But there's a lot of fans in every sport who really fucking pick apart announcers.
And a lot of those guys, for whatever reason, love Romo.
And if it comes down to Aikman and Joe Buck or Romo and Nance,
there's a number of people who one guy tweeted it and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? And then I read his comments and a bunch of people were like, yeah, if I see Romo's Nance, there was a number of people who, one guy tweeted it, and I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
And then I read his comments, and a bunch of people were like, yeah, if I see Romo's
doing a game, I'm going to go to that game over the NFC game.
So now when you have two games or three games going on at the same time, it's like, hey,
that might be the difference maker of, oh, which one do I stay on and watch longer?
You know what?
I mean, look, I'll take the L if I'm wrong.
I just had no clue that anybody could watch football for the announcers.
I thought it was such a peripheral additive
that people could not give a fuck.
I care about the replays way more than I care about the announcer.
Most A-teams are good.
Aikman and Buck, good.
Nansen and Romo, great.
The Monday Night Team's terrible,
but typically any A-team of any sport that I watch, I'm fine with it.
When you get the fucking B and C
guys that are doing the Tampa Bay Bucks games,
that's brutal. But I'm with
you for the most part. That's not making me
tune into a game or out of a game.
And viewership is down, so it's like
anything you can to increase viewership,
they probably
inflated the number a little bit, and I'm pretty sure
he negotiated well he's
like yo have you ever heard of any announcer being talked about as much as me he probably
went over to fox went over to a few places right go sheer number of tweets with my name in it
he doesn't do the predicting plays as much anymore i something tells me teams are like
what the fuck are you doing something tells me that was what do you mean just like probably
they tell you a thing or two in these meetings, and I'm sure sometimes he can just tell just by looking.
I also think one or two times he probably heard something in a meeting
and then said, oh, this is going to be this play.
This is my theory at least.
And teams were like, what the fuck are you doing?
Stop it.
Talk about the meeting thing.
You know, they have before the game on Sunday, maybe Saturday, Friday, whatever,
they'll meet with a bunch of players from both teams and talk to them.
If you ever watch a game, they're like, yeah, we talked to Romo, you know, or Tony Romo will be
like, oh yeah, we talked to Tom Brady the other day and he said, you know, this is a game where
we want to establish the run or whatever. They have meetings with these players. Like that's
just the thing they've been doing for as long as I've been watching football. And they might have
been saying, hey, you know, and we might try to do this thing and this look and this look because
Romo doesn't do the predicting nearly as much.
But that first weekend, he predicted play after play after play after play.
And then everybody's mind automatically, first of all,
you're so much better than Phil Simms, you're already a win.
Now you're predicting plays like fucking Nostradamus.
Oh, my God, this guy's amazing.
He chilled on that.
But I think that one thing established him as like, this is a guy. This is one of the best to do it. And now he's chilled on that. But I think that one thing established him as like, this is a guy. This is one of
the best to do it.
And now he's chilled on that, so I don't...
So why are we listening if he's chilled on that?
I thought that was what he does. People still love him.
I think he did that early on
and people were just like, this is a guy.
I love this guy. And he will still give
you insights, but
he won't predict the play nearly as much now.
He developed cachet that quick
shit all right get your money i'm not hating on someone get money like i just don't understand
either but i'm trying to make sense of it but like i think he does make a difference if if i
don't care about two teams maybe yeah i'm like yeah i got nothing to do let me watch football
maybe i'll choose the i just think he maybe he definitely negotiated well this is what they're gonna give me maybe i yeah maybe i've just been
like conditioned by the knicks to block out the reporters because clive frazier is so fucking
awful at calling the game like it's just so painful to listen to him go razzled and dazzled
and the neophyte and all these fucking words he looks like he just learned you to listen to him go razzled and dazzled and the neophyte and all
these fucking words he looks like he just learned you know but it's like i do not care at all about
an announcer and i never listen to announcer what they fucking say like i care i think van
gundy's great i think doris burke is great yeah doris is good they're good but like i could easily
enjoy the game without them like i don't need the The only reason I want them there is to give me some breaking news.
I don't need you to tell me what's happening.
He dribbled the ball to the court.
Thanks, Doris.
Yeah.
I'm in between you and those guys.
I really enjoy listening to Van Gundy.
I don't give a fuck if Reggie Miller...
Van Gundy's great.
He's got just such a great personality.
I think with football, there's so much downtime that it's actually a valuable position.
With basketball, since's like a moving sport
you're constantly in motion
you have less responsibility.
You know, there's just like this
like you can just kind of say what's
happening. You don't need to have these wild takes.
Like I don't think Mark Jackson is that great. Do you think
he's that great? Man down's hot but that's
about it.
Mama there goes that man. That's fun.
Maybe when he was hitting on somebody's wife.
Who was it?
LeBron's wife.
Oh.
That shit was wild.
Yeah, that was wild.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I tapped that ass.
What did he say?
He didn't say something like that.
He said something wild.
Yeah, it was a little crazy.
He said something wild.
Doris Burke had a flagrant thing.
He said, look the fucking something on.
It was like Zion or something.
We should look it up on Twitter. Also, we need to do some commentating on our own. Some flagrant thing. He said, look the fucking something on. It was like Zion or something. We should look it up on Twitter.
Also, we need to do some commentating on our own.
Some flagrant commentary would be fun.
Let's do it.
I think there's a Twitch thing or something we can do with that,
but we need to do some flagrant commentating.
Give them a reason to care about the announcers.
You're not wrong, my guy.
You're not wrong.
Yeah.
Actually, assholes, tweet in or comment.
I'm so old um if you use twitch or you would like to
see us on twitch announcing games let's see what they see what the people say yeah that's a good
idea let's do that guys anything else before we bring this episode to a close no good okay
very curious to how to see how uh we put this episode to a close. No, I'm good. Good? Okay. Very curious to see how we put this episode together.
Saw that exhale?
I mean, we started the episode 15 different times in the beginning.
Yeah, it was pretty crazy.
It is very crazy.
Sometimes too flagrant, sometimes just bombing all around.
Just bombing all around just bombing all around i
think we hit our groove though i think we got it we got our groove we needed that yeah we needed that
anyway we love y'all man we'll see you patreon this friday um looking forward to it peace keep it tight