ANMA - A Lost Episode?

Episode Date: June 12, 2023

Good morning, Gus! Are we rolling? The recorder died? But we were in the middle of an episode. We'll have to start over. We've had an equipment malfunction but that won't stop us from re-recording and... bringing you an episode where Gus & Geoff talk about Our technical problems, Rating the coffee first, The Porkchop, NIMBYism, Announcing departures, 20+ year coworkers, Estate sale findings, Capitol view, and Food trucks, plus an ANMANFT. Come to RTX obviously and see us live on stage having coffee live with YOU! July 7-9 www.RTXaustin.com Sponsored by Shady Rays http://shadyrays.com and use code ANMA, Henson Shaving https://hensonshaving.com and enter ANMA, and Babbel http://babbel.com/anma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the real episode 46. That other episode's bullshit. So in the course of human history, mistakes are made. If you think about it, what is this episode 46? Yes, this is episode 46, just like the last one that we... Like the one we got halfway through. I like to think of mistakes as experience and learning moments. What did we learn?
Starting point is 00:00:26 Don't trust the Zoom Audio Record. Wow. Listen, we made it 46 canonical episodes of this show, and then however many non-cannon episodes, before we ran into a technical problem. I figure I consider that to be a huge win. Okay. So we were out at the domain this morning,
Starting point is 00:00:49 recording anama, we got about, I don't know, if I had to estimate, we got about 30, 35 minutes in the episode. I think we were around 35 minutes. And our audio recorder died. And in its dying breaths, it corrupted all the audio files we had recorded and made them unreadable. I don't know, like, I'm just, I'm watching this thing like a hawk now to make sure that everything's working.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Here's the only problem with it. Well, the content that was on that recorder was gold. It was maybe the best episode. It's magic. Magic, it's magic, it's magic. Yeah, no exactly. You don't know the magic. It's on the tapes.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It's in the tape and the tape in the fried. So we now have a lost episode of this podcast. It's a shame too, because I think we all were high five in the middle because we realized this is our Emmy episode. It was so good. It was including apps and illusion. They were tears. Oh, yeah, we did talk about it.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Uncommon stuff, beds of the truck, a Metroplex, like it was all over the place. It was all over the place, much like we were, but now welcome to the real episode 46. Which is at RT in the- We are in the podcast room. Not gonna be a lot of audio texture of this one. No, probably none.
Starting point is 00:02:01 I went to go find Nick to see if he could help us salvage this. He is not here. So that's just kind of the situation that we're in. So if this one's a little short and a little stumbling and a little weird, I'm sorry. It's just like my penis. But we're already. Yeah, we've already done this. We're already in Gus's penis through this.
Starting point is 00:02:19 We're already halfway. So we went to coffee and crisp at the domain. All right, let's talk about that. Okay. Yeah, well, let's let's start with the coffee. Let's, this is a fucked up episode. Let's just start with the coffee because otherwise we're going to forget. Yeah. All right, first off, right out the gate, right
Starting point is 00:02:36 out the gate, great pinnip. Absolutely. Great. The well, well, written the name. Yeah, they wrote the names on the cups. Gorgeous. I disagree. Well, really maybe maybe yours is different than mine. I don't have my name. Let me see your Zerick. Looks great. Mine looks like E.I.R.C. Okay, so I will agree with that. His is bad. Okay. Well, okay, I was wondering what you were talking about. Two out of three. Yep. Right. There's still if that's a great batting average.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah. That's right. That's like Tony Gwynn numbers. That's absolutely. So, coffee and crisp is a place inside the domain. We were looking around for a coffee shop because I wanted to do a domain episode. We've been near, we went to turn style. Also. We've been near it, but we've never gone to it. And I wanted to know kind of your guys' opinion
Starting point is 00:03:20 on the domain. So I found the most domain-ass coffee shop. Yeah. Okay, is that why we went here? I was like, there's a Medici in the house too. And you found the most domain, ask coffee shop. Yeah. Which I think is that why we went here. I was like, there's a Medici in the house. Yeah. Yeah. And you're like, no, coffee and crisps. I'm like, coffee and croquette. It the most domain ask coffee shop.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Because I think it used to be a different coffee shop. Because I think it went to like a van store that's like right next to it. And it went there. Yeah. The van store moved from there to somewhere else. So what did you guys think of coffee and crisp? there to somewhere else. So what did you guys think of coffee and crisp? This is like a standard hot Americano, not amazing, not bad.
Starting point is 00:03:52 On a scale of turn style to all gimmicks, I'll give it a 6.5. Wow. I think you're cold brew. My cold brew, I'm gonna give it a 7.5. Wow. I think you're cold breath. Mike cold brew, I would, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it a 7.2. What? 7.2. 7.10.
Starting point is 00:04:12 That means it's terrible. No, this is the video game review. It's like a 7.2. It's Jeff, it's Jeff is the IGN of this podcast. It is nuanced. Wow. 7.2. It's better than a 7, but it is no 7.5. This coffee is probably an 8.5.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Really? Wow. It is, it has, there's almost no bitterness. It has a sourness. I really like a sour coffee. I really enjoy kind of like one that gives me like a fruit flavor, like a lot of fruit notes. And then if it has almost like a tartness, like a fruit, I really enjoy that. I like a lighter roast. I like if I can get a coffee that is roasted so little,
Starting point is 00:04:50 it almost tastes a little grassy like that's where I fall in how much I want my coffee. Yeah, I want it like like my chickens. I want my coffee for you. But that's just where I land on my coffee preferences. I don't like dark roast in anything like it all. I really don't like, it's such a step toward burned and it makes, like it feels like it, when I tasted it's like frying my brain, I don't like that. I don't like burnt coffee. But I'd give it an 8.5, I really like it and the people were so nice. They were super nice. Yeah, you guys weren't, but they were.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We were so nice. We were so nice. We were so nice. I made a joke about Yeah. You guys were so nice to each other I made a joke about cappuccino the dog. Yeah And by the way, that's another thing is that nice three things that place has going for it The people that work they were very nice they put dogs on the wall like if you bring your dog Like a photo. They'll take a photo of it. Yeah, staple real dogs in the wall. No, they'll they'll put a polluator of your dog on the wall
Starting point is 00:05:42 And and they really nice floor. I don't know if you noticed. I noticed a tile floor. Yeah, it's pretty. White tile. Okay, so you rated the coffee. Why don't you go ahead and rate your breakfast as well since you guys wanted snacks. You're talking like,
Starting point is 00:05:57 I'm good. I wanted to try it. How was your chocolate, Chris? It was fine. It was like the coffee. It was amazing. Wasn't bad. It was totally fine. I'll give the coffee, not all the road. It wasn't amazing. Wasn't bad. It was totally fine. I'll give my blueberry muffin a 6.8.
Starting point is 00:06:08 The swing is 0.4. Six point. Six point. The chocolate croissant was what, 375 I think is what they charged for it. It was a little small for 375 chocolate. Maybe it's 325. Maybe, maybe inflation's hitting. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:22 It was probably one of our most expensive episodes because you guys wanted snacks and also again, the most domain-ass coffee shop where everything was like, with tip and everything, it was like right around 30 bucks. That is nuts to me. That is nuts. Essentially like three non-fancy coffees
Starting point is 00:06:38 and two small pastries. That's insanity. But when we were driving back from the domain, this was not something we talked about before. We were driving back from the domain where the discussion in the car that thought might be interesting and something to talk about.
Starting point is 00:06:52 It's very anima-related. Okay. There is a big street that runs through all of Austin, Lamar. It runs from like all the way down south, all the way up north, like you traverse pretty much entire city on Lamar. And it crosses 183, which is one of the highways here, and 183 is like an elevated highway. It's a, yeah, it's up. It's on the ground. And they, I want to say they built that back in the late
Starting point is 00:07:18 night. I want to say it opened 97, maybe 96. It was under construction when I was still in the army coming down for the weekend. So that would have been like 96, 97. Yeah, somewhere right around there. So when they finally finished me. Yeah, now it was an 98 because I moved here 98 and was open by this. So maybe 96, 97. Anyway, before that, 1,83 was on the ground. So, you know, and it had lights and they said, well, let's build a, let's build it elevated and no lights. So that's what they did. And that's what we have now. But in the process of building it, you know, there's construction road closures and delays
Starting point is 00:07:49 and crossing one of the intersections at Lamar, they put in a, a traffic limiting device that people refer to as a pork chop. It kind of looks like a pork chop because it does not, if you're going east to west on this cross street, you cannot drive west across the Marth. Of course, you'd have turned north. And they put it there because the
Starting point is 00:08:08 neighbors, the people living on the west side of the Mars didn't want that construction traffic coming through, trying to circumvent detours and road closures. They didn't want to come through their neighborhood. Totally understandable. By the way, that part of this is totally understandable. Get it. Like we said, the elevator one, eight, three, opened in 96, 97, whenever it opened. That traffic limiting device was only removed. I wanna say last year, maybe six months ago.
Starting point is 00:08:30 It was still there and you could not cross Lamar Westbound at that intersection. And it was a simple fix when they removed it. It's like they just tore up the pork chop and super fucking in the wing. They just reconfigured the lights at that intersection. You know what? It's 25 years or so after the construction was done. It was very much, it seemed like it was very much, we don't want those people in our neighborhood kind of thing. We don't want the people living on that side of Lamar coming
Starting point is 00:08:58 over here and messing up with our property value and messing with our stuff over here. That neighborhood also didn't they have like, wasn't there also another controversy where they had a gate with a lock across the road? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gone now. What? They had a padlock and a gate across one of the roads because they didn't want people
Starting point is 00:09:16 who were driving on the north side of their neighborhood, turning south and going into their neighborhood. It is ludicrous and it is 100% correct. I ride my bike over there a lot. It's like one of my main thoroughfares when I ride my bike north. And it was always so fucking annoying because there's a perfectly, perfectly usable road to go in and out of this neighborhood. And they always had that stupid gate with a padlocked.
Starting point is 00:09:38 And there wasn't an easy way to get on the curb right there to get around it. So I just had to like get off my bike to fucking, like, you know, just navigate my way through it. And it was purely because they just didn't want people coming in their neighborhood. And they finally got rid of that in the Austin subreddit was like all a glow for a couple days about it. That's so cool.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like you can just do that. You can be like, I just put up a gate. Well, I think the gate was put there. Again, it was like a temporary thing when they were building the house. Freaking destruction. And then when they were done, they were just like, yeah, no one just removed it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 They were like, yeah, the gate's fine. Let's just leave it there. As a matter of fact, if you go over there to the spot, there is a headstone somebody put in the ground, like a RIP gateheadstone. Really? Really? I swear to God, yeah, it's like maybe six, eight inches tall. If you ride your bike by it,
Starting point is 00:10:24 will you snap a picture for us? Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. I do it today, actually. If I go that way, that's like maybe six, eight inches tall. If you ride your bike by it, will you snap a picture for us? Yeah, for sure. Okay, cool. I do it today, actually, yeah. If I go that way, that's fucking hilarious. Yeah, I drove by the other day and I was like, and I noticed the headstone, and I thought that was fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:10:33 That is the epitome of the not in my backyard. The nembitude. We did have a little nembit conversation earlier. It's like, we don't want people from the East coming to our neighborhood. We don't want people from the North coming to our neighborhood. Right. You have to only approach from this one direction
Starting point is 00:10:45 to get in and out. Also, that fucking neighborhood, and ain't nothing to brag about. No, it's not. It's not, it's not a bad neighborhood, but it's not like, it's not like a bunch of assholes and Travis Heights or something,
Starting point is 00:10:54 or like Terry Tamm. We had to call him out. Get him, get him, get him. I'm just saying, we're then fancy rich housearts. Right. It's just like, it's a whatever neighborhood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 What do you think? It is a completely whatever neighborhood. What do you think of the sort of Nimby attitude of Austin that it's sort of become? Do you think that there is more like, when you look back over the last 20, whatever years, do you think it's more prevalent now than it had been or do you think it's always been there
Starting point is 00:11:16 and people just pay attention now? I will say it's probably always been there. And people are just more cognizant of it now with, it's just on a larger scale. Yeah, well, God, some of this got lost in the, in the lost recording, but, What a great episode too. I talked about how for many years,
Starting point is 00:11:32 Austin had the, if you don't build it, they won't come attitude and actively try to suppress growth. And I think that, you know, the nimbus we see now is just a continuation of that, like not wanting to build stuff, not wanting to grow things. Like, like, acknowledging, like, yeah, we Austin needs to grow, we need stuff, but I don't want it near here.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah. And I think it's always been going on. If you look on the Austin subreddit, this gets reposted every so often, but there's old ads for Hyde Park when they were first building a Hyde Park, that's their like Hyde Park, a neighborhood for Whites Only. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It was a huge selling point. Whoa. Yeah. It was a Whites Only neighborhood. So, I mean, I fucked up his ass. So yeah, the Nimbism, it's always been there. Um, what is with the Austin's I've read it and people wanting to post. See you later, Austin.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm moving. Hey, man, I don't, who get, I know that this is special to you. People fucking move. Yeah. I don't know what else to tell you. The crazy thing about that to me too, because there was one this morning, I was reading it as well. And there's, all right Austin, it's been real.
Starting point is 00:12:40 I've been living here for 50 years, but it finally got too expensive, or it's not special anymore anymore or it's no longer weird And I got a piece out to greener pastures and then it's 50% of the comments are like nobody has to announce their departure just fucking leave who cares boo Austin's better without you and the other half is like I left Austin 20 years ago a great best decision of my life And it's like if you left Austin 20 years ago. Why are you in the subreddit? Also that guy was like I'm moving to Colorado Right what the fuck are you in the subreddit? Also, that guy was like, I'm moving to Colorado. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:05 What the fuck are you doing? Why do you, what, what pool do you think you're about to wait into? It's like there's a whole community of people that sit around and wait for those posts so they can come in and also say, I also left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I don't know why we have to make such a big deal.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I didn't, yeah. I mean, I think that, that kind of, it's so bizarre. Yes. That kind of negativity that, that kind of, it's so bizarre. Yeah. That kind of negativity. Well, this is an offshoot, but kind of negativity and negative attitudes build and attract more of that. I know, it's just like, I'm gonna leave Austin someday, Gus. You'll leave Austin someday, probably.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah. And I'm not gonna tell the world, I'm not gonna, yeah, it's like, I don't expect anybody to throw me a goodbye Austin party, you know? I don't want people to tell me they'll strangers on the internet to tell me they'll miss me in the subreddit It's just weird. Yeah, then I don't get it. I'm I'm in the same boat as you doesn't make it doesn't make any sense or it's like Or there's either that like I just I got to go or I'm taking a stand and I'm leaving. It's like cool, man Okay, that's awesome for you. I don't care. That's what, that's how everything became what it is now,
Starting point is 00:14:06 is people moving to places. Yeah. Do you think you're better than other people who moved? Because you didn't move here? You're, what are you talking about? The place you're going to is gonna go, come, more fucking people moving here. Yeah, it was fucking Austin people moving here.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Wake up. It's like how everybody is, everybody for the last 20 years has been mad at California for moving to Austin. All of Nashville or Memphis or Colorado Springs or Durango or wherever the hot fort Collins or wherever the hot new place is sitting around going. These fucking Austin,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I just, yep. God damn it. Stay in your fucking state. Yeah. It feels like Austin is mostly people moving from other parts of Texas to Austin. I think it really state. Yeah. It feels like Austin is mostly people moving from other parts of Texas to Austin. I think it really is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I know that California is like the big like, yeah, they fucking moved here. I think people from California visit. And I don't think that they're probably number two on the list, but they're not number one. People from Texas are number one moving off. People from small towns in East Texas. Yup, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, there's a lot of, a lot of knackered oaches. As someone who moved from a small town in Texas, yeah, there's a lot of other small town escapies who moved to Austin. But there's nothing wrong with that. No, that's what happens when you move. You go up and you move to the big city if you live in a small town.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Not in my backyard. Are you going on the Eagle Pass subreddit and going, guys, it's been real. Yeah, I gotta get out of here. I can't do it anymore. Eagle Pass was not cool when after I left in 96. That's back in the real day. Ever since the beeper store closed down, it's like, I don't even know this place anymore. It was an office supply store with a beeper counter. Have you guys had other odd jobs here in Austin? You talk about the beeper store or whatever?
Starting point is 00:15:47 He has worked like any other places. I think we had an episode about this, but the only other job I've had in Austin was sellin' vacuum cleaners and I quit on that. Oh, that's right. I quit on my first day. I quit when they had the religious song and then the tech support company where we all met.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah, yeah, I worked there. I worked at the promotional products place, and rooster cheese. I guess we moonlit as tech guys for a while, getting on stuff, but yeah. Yeah, but yeah, so no. I mean, I was desperate when I moved here at the home talked about that.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Like, I want to take any job I could care. Gus and I have literally been co-workers. Gus and Bernie and I have been co-workers. I guess Bernie not anymore because he retired, but for 26 years, you know, I mean, we had a long friendship before Ruchfty started. Maybe 24 years. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:37 24, 25, somewhere. 24, 25, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. Man. And I'm sick of you, motherfucker. He's burning. Yeah. He heard me say my name.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah. Say anything good. Is anything you can share? Uh, no, we're just talking about movies. Oh, okay. He was asking if I'd seen the machine. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:55 You're talking about that. I guess we can touch on that for a second. You, that was at Alamo Lake line. Yeah. That mall used to be something and they built an Alamo and now I don't know another reason there's a pinball is up there. I don't know another reason to like head on up. The worst Barnes and Noble is up there. The Lakeline mall is up there. It is, I don't want to have other podcasts bleed into this one, but let me tell you the Lakeline mall is not back.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And that Alamo is whatever. Did it move? Is it still in the same location location used to be the place that you're thinking of was like a strip mall Yeah, just to the right other Yeah, it's gone. It's been gone for there from years. It's on the other side now further up And like if you take the exit to go into Lake Line mall, right? And then you like you go up Lake Line malls like in front of you But you take a ride around it and you just like spider your way through it is over there. Okay in that parking lot the last time I went up like It's been years. I went to the last movie. I saw Alamo way through it is over there. Okay. In that parking lot. The last time I went up, like, I, it's been years I went to, the last movie I saw El Mola Lakeline was the departed.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Okay. That's been a minute. Yeah. It's been a few years since I've been up there. I've only seen two films there, I think. In this episode and in the lost episode, we are talking about the last time Gus has been at theaters and movies that came out in the mid 2000s. Yeah, the last time I went to the gold class or the I pick out in the mid 2000s. Yeah, the last one to the gold class
Starting point is 00:18:06 or the I pick theater in the domain was I saw inception. Right. And listen, I don't go to other theaters very often. You only see Nolan films apparently. That's it. Um, it so that Lake Line area, we talked about this a little bit in this last episode, whatever, but like the way that Austin's expanded, you guys have moved north with it, sort of.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I have. Yeah, exactly. And is it, it's finally not inconvenient, you don't have to drive down to Buda to like do this stuff for whatever to come to the office and everything, which is great. Do you think Austin continues expanding north? Do you think it goes east?
Starting point is 00:18:43 There's so much urban sprawl, and there's like a lot of room, obviously. But like, what's the next, just if you had to take a pick, what's like the next hot spot where you go like, here's like the domain you would never think. I can tell you. What is it?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Austin is growing north east. It's growing towards Taylor. That's exactly the direction I was gonna see. It's gonna go out there and absorb Taylor with, especially now with Taylor building that Samsung plant. It's, that's the direction. I was out there two weeks ago for a state sale. In Taylor and in Taylor, well in Thorndale,
Starting point is 00:19:09 which is just on the other side of Taylor. And I drove by that Samsung plan and it is fucking, it's not like, it's not like it's big as the mile long Tesla plan out by Coda, but it is fucking huge. It's right across the road from the Taylor airport. Yeah. And I fly in and out of there quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So yeah, I've seen it from above and looking at it. It's like, it's fucking massive. It's huge. I'm supposed to open like in two years or next year. I think so, yeah. Yeah, it's like, so that like Taylor huddle, like especially huddle, that area is gonna be exploding big time.
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Starting point is 00:25:15 for up to 55% off your subscription. Babble, language for life. I actually spend a fair amount of time over there, just because they have, you know, Emily is a big, we talked about in the non-canon episode, big estate sale person, and then also a lot of like vintage and antique stores and thrift malls and shit. And so we find our, we do a lot of day trips on the weekends and go up that way a lot. I kind of like Taylor, like downtown Taylor is kind of cute and charming. Huh.
Starting point is 00:25:42 It, it's very different from Austin, and it is like, you know, I don't wanna, you'll see a lot of mega hats when you're walking around and you're like, wow, this is really, they wouldn't see this 30 minutes west in Austin, but it is a charming little like downtown area with like, and it seems to be growing like, there's a new Italian restaurant that just opened up over there and there's a new coffee shop.
Starting point is 00:26:02 There's a coffee shop over there that's pretty adorable we could go to. We going out to Taylor? No, but I mean, someday we might have to expand out after all the burgers are eaten. Well, it's it's you would just say about the mega hats because that's kind of what I was going to touch on is like, I feel like Taylor's undergoing a huge demographic shift.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Yeah. It's definitely been kind of stereotypical small town, Texas, but with a lot of these tech companies moving in and people moving in to support these jobs, I can see a lot of change happening already in that city. I think they started having pride parades and things that you associate, you don't associate with small town, Texas, mega hat wearing kind of place. Yeah. So it's, it'll be interesting to watch as it continues to change. And as you know, it gets less far away from Austin. There is a lot of pride, uh, merchandise for sale in Taylor and a lot of pride flags and stuff, which is great to see.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I will say just, and I'm not, I'm not making a point with this. I'm just going to say I've been to seven or eight estate sales in Taylor in the last two years probably. The only time I have seen Nazi memorabilia at an estate sale has been in Taylor, and I have seen it multiple times. There was, there wasn't a, that's all I'll say. There was an estate sale here, pretty central,
Starting point is 00:27:21 Austin a couple months ago, it was, where was it? It was off of, it's kind of north of West Campus. It was like off of Lamar and, what's over there? It's kind of like a little South of McBrides. Okay, okay. Over in that area and they posted, it was in a state sale, they posted all their stuff online and that a state sale had some Nazi memorabilia
Starting point is 00:27:43 as well as like racist World War II Pacific theater stuff. So I don't know if the dude was like a world war or the people were World War II enthusiasts or racist enthusiasts. Like you never know. There's like, there's an interesting mix of stuff here. Yeah, it's a weird line. Yeah. Like I said, I'm not trying to make any judgments.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I'm just saying, every time I go to Taylor, I'm like, holy shit, what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah, that's where you'll find it, man. States sales. Crazy. Crazy. I guess all the old racists are dying. Yeah, they got new ones in.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, they got to make way for all the new races. With all that expansion, sort of like to the Northeast, and all like the moving and people kind of being, I don't know if displaced is like the right word because it's gonna be like new people moving in, what does that do to Austin proper? Does it just keep growing up? Does it, is it more like leveling and raising in condos or what?
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, I think Austin just absorbs small towns, right? Like at some point, buta is a part of Austin, yeah, huddle, I don't know if it make it all the way out to Taylor, but you know, eventually, maybe like Fluegerville just becomes a part of Austin. Are they all part of Travis County? I don't know where Travis County started. No idea what it is. Taylor might know Taylor's in Williamson County, right? Williamson County happens right around Lakeland Mall. I'll add a little bit before it. But Taylor's up to the east. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I don't know what the county is. It's not Travis County. I think Taylor's still Williamson County. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, because I never growing up in San Diego, the city of San Diego is coastal and the city and whatever. And it sort of expands a little east and a little south and north or whatever. Like that's the city.
Starting point is 00:29:30 The county goes from Mexico all the way up to Camp Pendleton and goes from the beach all the way out to the desert. The county of San Diego is bigger than like two or three different states. So that's when we're talking about like the expansion of Austin, I'm wondering how it eats that stuff, what it absorbs and if it becomes the county, Travis County is like this thing or how exactly that works. Taylor is in Williamson County, which kind of begs the question,
Starting point is 00:29:56 will there be a race between Round Rock and Austin to absorb it? Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. It's like where it's positioned, it's kind of between them. Like to your point of talking'm talking about counties and cities
Starting point is 00:30:06 and how it all lays out. Like, there are parts of Austin in Williamson County that are just over the line. Or in Hayes County, maybe even a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, maybe. So it's an interesting dynamic, because there is definitely a shift
Starting point is 00:30:21 once you cross that county line here, from one to the other. I think Austin is just going to continue to grow and absorb everything around it. And you know, it is no matter what they do, downtown Austin is hampered by the way it was initially constructed so it can only grow so much, which is another reason. We talked a lot about the domain in the last episode, but I think that that's why the domain is where it is and becoming what it's gonna become,
Starting point is 00:30:47 which is gonna be a second downtown. I mean, it is really being billed as and it's becoming a second downtown. It has the stadium, has Q2. It's right there. But I don't know if Austin will absorb everything. I think some cities have reached an unabsorble point like Round Rock.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Which is why I say that, you know, it's in my area. Round Rock is like the, I think Round Rock was one of the top 10 fastest growing cities in America. Right. Right now. And I think that, I think that years ago, people who lived in Round Rock said they lived in Austin. Yes. I don't think that's necessarily the case anymore. I think, you know what? I think you're totally right. Yeah. There is a difference. And I think Round Rock has escaped the absorption orbit of Austin. I think there's a lot of pride in Round Rock. The Rocks not round. They have a triply baseball
Starting point is 00:31:29 team in Kalahari Resort, the world's largest indoor water park. And then you can get beat up by a tornado. Come on through to Round Rock, Texas. They got our yellow donuts. What do you think about Georgetown? I think Georgetown might end up getting absorbed by Round Rock. Yeah, right? I wouldn't be surprised. I always lump them together in my head. I really do, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I do that with Fluegerville. I put Fluegerville in Round Rock and Round Rock in Georgetown all together and like one thing that's, I just call it not Austin. And then Cedar Park is this little hat off to the side of it. Yeah. Cocked. Coming out and watch the Austin spurs.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Never mind. It's crazy seeing because you know me moving here, it's only been five years. I think I've been here for five years now. Yeah. I think I've been here for five years and seeing the expansion of Austin is like, oh wow, this is, I feel like I've seen it before, but I'm really curious to see what you guys think about where it's going, how it's going to be. And that hotspot being Northeast,
Starting point is 00:32:31 I think that's such a good call. I think you're totally right. There's nothing but room, nothing but room. I think the developers of Mueller here was Catalyst. I saw an interview with someone from Catalyst over the weekend talking about how they want to build a second Mueller style development out there in that direction, out Northeast. They said it was out by Walter Elon, like that like Lake, like Northeast of that lake
Starting point is 00:32:57 off like 130. Okay. They're like, yeah, we want this to be bigger than Zoker Park and it's the next Mueller. It's like, what are you doing? No one is here, what are you talking about? I think they're looking ahead to where it's gonna be. Like they want to, I think they said they want to start breaking ground on that in 2025 and then it'll take a long time for it to be done. So they're seeing where the growth is gonna happen
Starting point is 00:33:18 and trying to be there ready when it does. I would just like them to finish Mueller. Dude. They're working on it, man. They, they are now, but God damn. It is taken forever. Forever. Forever.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And I will say I liked it better before they built all this stuff. Well, before it was just a bunch of empty fields. Now it's empty fields with trailers on them and like forgotten building supplies. Yep. Yep. They started, they're like Ram Jam and those buildings up there. They really, it seems like they've hit like another level. There's like a tender green over there now. They're like sweet green. Oh yeah. That place rolls. Yeah. Sweet greens at best. It's right
Starting point is 00:33:53 there. And they just opened it. Really? Yeah. It's like right by a Alamo. I go there all the time. Yeah. It's like I order from the one in Guadalupe. There you go. It's crazy how fast like that's like how it's building and how it's expanding and all that stuff. But like, man, I just don't keep, like Austin, you just keep building up. I don't know what else you can do within the city limit. Well, it's complicated, right? Because there's the capital view corridor where it's changed a lot. And the restrictions have loosened up a little bit for growth, but there is still rules on the books that you can't obscure the view of the capital from a lot of different directions
Starting point is 00:34:33 and angles. And so, and part of the problem of downtown Austin is like growth is capped by that. God, who fucking cares at the start? Who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who cares, who don't like Austin and they go, hey, hey, look at that rule we have for you. That's all it feels like. That's all the list, Lisa.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. God. I mean, that's one of those rules that probably made sense 100 years ago when there were no other big buildings, you know, and you want to, and you can like, uh, look at our point of pride. The Texas Capitol, it's three feet taller than a state Capitol is legally allowed to be.
Starting point is 00:35:24 The state of Texas had fuck you. We're better than everybody else, so we're gonna build it three feet taller than a state capital is legally allowed to be. The state of Texas had fuck you. We're better than everybody else. So we're going to build it three feet taller. It looks just like the capital in Washington, but it's a little bigger. Yeah, it looks just like the capital in Washington, but it's a little bigger because everything's bigger in Texas. It's pink. I get that.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That made sense 100 years ago, but it's not, it's no longer that impressive. Right. You know what's impressive? New bigger buildings that can house people that can sail boats on the hanging off the side of the fucking river capacity like the Google building. I think we should start demolishing the downtown on the river again and just push it into the water and then just build bigger there. Well, the other we're going to build it on the south side over where the statesman building is. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What is going to happen? Are they doing like a little like a mullery development
Starting point is 00:36:04 there? It's going to be yeah, there's gonna be like a second, what they're calling like a second downtown across the river with more high rises and just another downtown right there. Like you talk about expanding downtown, that's like maybe one of the last spots that's left available for them to grow the footprint of downtown.
Starting point is 00:36:18 If we had gotten, if we could have only gotten an NBA team, that's where the stadium should have gone. That's it right there. On the river, right. Oh, oh, that would have been so cool. Fucking amazing. Anyway, we have the Moody Center. We do have the Moody Center and it's lovely. We're not going to complain because the Moody Center's great. It's nice. You put in being there. That spurs came up right? Yeah. Yeah, we saw it. It was great. And it's fucking it's it's perfect for an NBA game. It really is. It's very cool. And then you go, like, where do I park? And it's five blocks away.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah. I don't know if they're going to tear down. Are they going to tear down the Frank Irwin Center? Yeah. Are they fucking parking lot? Because that would be really cool. I think it's going to be a medical. Oh, are they expanding the hospital?
Starting point is 00:36:56 I might have. Why, I'm not saying. I might be. I might have just pulled that out of my asses. Oh, okay. It just feels like that's where the hospital's going to go. They're building it eventually, Eric. You're going to get old and you're going to get sick. ass. Oh, okay. It just feels like that's where the hospital's going to go. See, they're building it eventually, Eric. You're gonna get old and you're gonna get sick.
Starting point is 00:37:07 No, not me. It's like a checklist building out. No, no, no, not me. I'm good. Give me a parking lot. It is a bitch to park there. It is. You just park a couple blocks away and you still pay $25 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:37:20 And you go, I guess I'll walk four blocks. I'll cut through the hospital to go up to Red River, or whatever to walk. It's like such a fucking headache. Or park across the interstate. Yeah, I take a fucking scooter. I'll take it on a fucking scooter. Get on a fucking, around there,
Starting point is 00:37:33 wherever it's trying to park, you're out of your mind. Yeah, they're not going fast because they're trying to park. No, but they're going sudden. Yeah, and nobody's paying attention to scooters. Absolutely, you're dead. You can hop on one of the little, the guys with the bikes that'll bike you around
Starting point is 00:37:47 are always there waiting and going, you wanna ride and it's like, absolutely not. What are you talking about? Crazy. That's scammed by those. Comic Con in San Diego, we learned our lesson. Did you really? Yeah, you're like, oh yeah, this will be great.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Oh, you get where you're going? Like, that's 80 bucks. Yep. Yep. Yep. Damn, that's how you learn. That is, yeah. That is definitely where you and I cut our teeth on the, you know, we learned, we learned the hard way.
Starting point is 00:38:11 So we're at 35-ish minutes. And just due to schedule and us having to wrap up, we do need to sort of wind it down here. Okay. That lost episode, that's a good one. Okay. Nick just message me and he's like, what are these files? Weird thing, those anima files
Starting point is 00:38:30 gussent me or five minutes and audition considers them to be corrupted. That's what Nick just sent me. Yeah, open up to the reveal, see you. Fine. So there were a couple of anarchy questions that I wanted to get to, but are there any other thoughts
Starting point is 00:38:44 that you guys had regarding sort of? Nah, I feel like we covered it all in the episode nobody over here. Yeah, isn't that tough? Why do they even try to sell the Nazi memorabilia in a state sale? I don't know. What are you gonna do? Keep it? Burn it, destroy it, throw it away. I don't know what the fuck you know I'm fucking dumpster. Right. I take it back. There's no fucking point. I'm right there With you dude, I don't know yeah, I don't fucking get it This is a question from great. Okay, I love his potatoes All great almost on the anima subreddit our slash anima podcast What are the best things that changed about Austin
Starting point is 00:39:26 because people from other places moved here? Oh, that's a good question. 100% has to be right. Food. Like there's no, that's it, man. Austin is in every way of foodie town now. And when I moved here, five hours started coming here, 94, it was definitely not.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Yeah. And that was like a fucking overnight transformation right around 2000. That's definitely improved, head and shoulders. I think food is probably the number one thing. The food truck thing became the like a reason to come to Austin. Everything's food truck, and then the good food trucks
Starting point is 00:40:02 move into actual spaces. Yeah. And then now the food truck is truck is just a thing and you go, that's too much to pay. I'm not eating there. And why does it take so long to get a bagel? It's hellish. It's so funny. It's like there was a period of time from like maybe 2008 to like 2012 where I only wanted to eat at food trucks. Yeah. And now I can't imagine eating at food truck. I remember when we were working downtown at the Congress office, we went down to, there was a cilantro hat, it was back before they had brick and mortar, so they were still a truck.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Like they had parked their truck down Congress and we went down there to get some food and I ordered food and I went to pay and I handed them my credit card and they were like, oh, just so you know, there's like a, I figure it was like a $5 credit card processing fee. I was like, what? Like yeah, you know, well, you know, it cost us money to run credit cards, so you know, there's like a, I forgot what it was, like a $5 credit card processing fee. I was like, what? Like, yeah, you know, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:46 it costs us money to run credit cards, so, you know, we got to pass that cost on. And I, like, we had the online store and you had our credit card processing work. And I was like, it doesn't cost you $5 for an credit card transaction. I was like, you know, I was like, it cost you, it cost you maybe 3%.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Right, I was like, you, yeah. Like, yeah, you're looking at 3%, maybe you're 25% for you on top of that. I was like, and my food's 10 bucks. Don't tell me, you can spend, we have another 50% charge. I mean, like kind of quiet, the person was like, all right, we'll just do like a $1. I never went back to that food truck again after.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I was like, fuck you, don't try to gouge me again on the point of sale and tell me, you're just passing costs onto me, fuck you. And lastly, in my NFT, not for tourists, any place that you guys want to recommend. And it was a square credit card processor on top of that. That's even worse. That's like 1.7%.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Probably. Uh, we don't do that anymore. Yeah. Um, uh, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and my NFT. Um, looking at, thinking about downtown, what's not for tourists? I feel like we've had some good suggestions here lately. Definitely. I got one for you.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Oh, yeah. If you're going to go for a deep eddy pool. Oh, that's a Jeff, that's such a good one. Yeah. Emily and I have declared that 2023 is the year of the city of Austin. For us, we're going to take advantage of all the COA stuff. And so we've been hitting up all the city pools around town. And everybody goes to Barton Springs.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Everybody hears about Barton Springs. It's a unique experience. But here's the thing about Barton Springs. It's fucking crowded and the water is gross right now. And it has been gross for a long time. And it's gross because of how crowded it is. However, there is another city of Austin pool that also just costs five bucks to go into. Maybe it's a little bit more if you're non-resident, called Deep Eddie that's five miles away from that one that is- Not even.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Lovely. Yeah, maybe that's pretty close. It's just across MoPak. It's like six street, it's Lake Austin Boulevard in MoPak. It's also next to a place called Poolburger, which is a great hamburger. I love Poolburger. But go to Deep Eddie Pool, it's just as cool, it's just as relaxing, it's cleaner, it's not as crowded, and it's a lovely experience. So that's fun.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's a great one. That's great, and Poolburger. Yeah, and go to Poolburger while you're at it. After you swim, it's a fucking awesome burger. This isn't going to be for you, but their drinks are really fucking good, man. You can get Jamaican ting there, which is like a little soda. It comes in green or pink, and it is gross, but I always get it. I was going to be like, oh, I shouldn't have got this.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Some were really, you said burger, made me think about this. It's a place that I haven't been to in a little while actually, and And it's in danger of going away, which is why I'm gonna say it. But I would say maybe go to dirty martens up on Guadalupe. Okay. It's an old burger place. It's been there like a hundred years at this point. And it might get demolished to make way for the rail system or for public transit. But it's like, it's iconic.
Starting point is 00:43:45 It's been there forever. It's definitely a place that we did frequent for quite a while, but it's kind of, it's been a little while step in there. It was my burger of choice, wrote to like place on the weekends until we started going to top notch and top notch kind of took it over. But I had about, Emily and I had about like six, eight months
Starting point is 00:44:05 over where we would go there like every Sunday. It is really good, the food is really good. They have these little corn fritter things you can get that are like deep fried corn nuggets, that are fucking awesome. And if you wanna be entertained, go there on a Saturday around 11 a.m. during March Madness and just watch all the old guys filling out their brackets.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It's just like, it's great people watching. You talk about like old people going to a establishment, watching sports, getting excited for a sporting event, that also makes me think of like the tavern, which is over like at 11 to the mar, which is another place, that's a place that fills up anytime there's like a UT game and people wanna go and watch it.
Starting point is 00:44:45 I'd made the mistake of just trying to go to the tavern on a Sunday during NFL. It was like, people's lying out the door, man. I know someone who went there once on a Saturday and there was a UT game that was on TV and they sat down. He said that some random dude came up to him and was like, Hey, whenever there's a UT game on, I like to sit at this table. If I give you 100 bucks, will you leave, go to another table and let me have this one? And they were like, okay. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Wow. I gotta start sitting at tables. Yeah, I gotta find out which table that was. Goddamn. Man, that's cool. 100 bucks every Saturday. Oh yeah. I'm rich.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Don't even quit my job. Well, that'll do it for Ann. Sorry, there was the last episode. We're gonna have Nick Dude technical wizardry on it. It's a shame because it was the best episode we've ever recorded. You're fucking good. It was so fucking good. And there's no way to get back.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Oh, and we'll see. You can follow us at Ann Ma podcast, a and M.A. podcast on Instagram and on Twitter. See pictures from this episode, which is the lost episode. So it'll be pictures of us at the domain, which we're not at, which we're not at currently. We're in our podcast room and I'm not taking pictures here. So, and send us your name guesses.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah, but there are people still, we're so blind, still guessing the name. And I'll just read to eat them and go, almost keep trying. Um, so we follow us and my podcast on Twitter and on Instagram, our slash and my podcast is the subreddit that we have nothing to do with, but if you wanna go there and discuss this week's episode, you can. I'm in there all the time, Lurkin.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Yeah, you just kinda pop around. Poking, poke, poke, poke. Pop around? Pop around. You blessed some people. I'm in a poke mobile and popin' around. Anything, RTX, July 7th or 9th. That's the date.
Starting point is 00:46:26 It's like, I told you you had them wrong. We will be doing a live episode of this show. It's the only place to see us live. Yeah. So come see us at RTX. I think we'll be on the show for probably doing a cool show. Drink a coffee with you. Chatting it up, having fun, cool, cool, cool.
Starting point is 00:46:44 But that'll pretty much show RTX Austin.com, obviously. If you don't know by now, I don't know what to tell you. Uh, any final thoughts, parting words for these people. Yeah, Gus wanted to say something. Yeah, always keep an eye on your Zoom recorder. There you go. It's great. It's great advice for young producers out there.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Oh, Eric's eyes have not left that thing. Oh, I'm just making sure. What's funny is I saw you adjust the level. It was fine. It was fine. It was fine. We were deep into the episode. We were deep into the episode.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Yeah. All right, well, we've done it. Thank you very much for listening. And we'll see you next week. It's an H6 recorder. TTFN. Thank you very much for listening, and we'll see you next week. It's an H6 recorder, TTFN.
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