ANMA - Austin B.G. (Before Gus)

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

Good morning, Gus! We're back with another cup of coffee and round of stories, this time stopping into Dear Diary coffee for a cup. We make our way to Chestnut Park to talk 13 being a scary number, cat stickers, Blazer Tag, Paintball in Houston, Geoff's first day in Austin, Emo's, and not being on the Austin Chronicle cover. Do us a favor and tell a friend about ANMA. They can take a guess at the name but mostly check out the show. Remember that person you used to watch RvB with? Tweet them a link. This episode is sponsored by Fum (http://breathefum.com/ANMA). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, man. You do? Yeah, sure. So is this episode cursed? No. I feel like you're a guy who has 13 tattooed on him somewhere. I'll be honest with you, Eric. I have no idea.

I'm trying to go through all my tattoos on my head right now. I don't know. I don't think so, but maybe it's possible. It just feels like it's probably like on a tombstone and there's like a crow. He was a big fan of the silashaded first person shooter 13 from the year 2001. You just seem like a guy who like didn't listen

to social distortion, but the aesthetic really stuck with you for a minute. I didn't like the rockabilly shit, but I like their first album. There you go. There you go. It tracks. I like like Adam Bond and all that stuff.

I think that shit's not not not social distortion. I think that superstition shit is all stupid. Like you get an elevator and there's no number 13. Like there's, what is it matter? There's still a 13th floor. It's just, no, it's not. It is not. It is not. It's no number 13. Like, what is it matter? There's still a 13 floor. It's just, no, it's not. It is flavor, no. It's flavor, no.

It makes things just a little bit more interesting. No, it does it. It makes things confusing. There's no confusion. It's fun, there's no confusion. There's no confusion. There's no reason a number should be scary. A number does not dictate your life.

Ooh, the number one, then the number three is right behind it. It's gonna get you. No. I think there's a lot of really somber ways a number could be scary and appropriately so. All right, bring us down. Stage four, cancer. The four is a much scarier number than two. I thought, I didn't, I thought he meant where we are like,

like where we work. Yeah, like me too. I was like, what are we getting? Also, it's the cancer that's scary. Not the number. No, the number denotes how serious the cancer is. No, I'm like, well, I agree to disagree with you guys. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. We went to Dear Diary Coffee today, which there really wasn't a place to record. So we're going around the corner with this Chestnut Pocket Park. Yeah. Chestnut Park. When we pulled up, I was really excited because there were a bunch of city employees like cutting the grass and leaf blower stuff.

I thought we were going to get some great audio texture, but right as we started recording, they left. However, there's a beautiful fountain. There it is. Hopefully you get a little babbling brook or hopefully you can hear it. I don't even know if it'll pick up on the audio. Let me, uh, we got it.

Oh, yeah, we definitely got it. That's a room tone. Yeah. Thanks, Dennis. Let me ask you a question. All right. How many times do you gym by this part? Oh, I don't know.

Hundreds? Hundreds of times. Minimum. Yeah. This is the first time you've ever stepped out of it. This is my first time ever stepping foot in it. Oh, really? It's, it's tiny.

Yeah. It's, it's not very big at all. Have you been here before? No, no, no, no, no, no at all. Have you been here before you? No. You're kind of like an open-view where you said that. No, no, no, no, no. I was thinking it for the same reason. Like, I don't think, I mean, unless I was gonna throw a kid's birthday party outside,

I don't know what else this would be good for. Yeah, there's a plaque over there. I guess it's Park is dedicated to someone? Probably. I mean, there's like a bunch of placecapes. I've never been here. One of many pocket parks. I used to live kind of close.

I'm hesitant to say it cause I don't want to look. Right, you don't want to out. Out where I lived or any of these stories were, but I lived by like a little pocket park for a while. And the neighbors were always so proud of it. Are you talking about that long skinny park? I got a pocket park. That was what you and I lived in a similar,

one of the same neighborhood. That was the sorryest excuse for a fucking part that I've ever seen. It was awful. It was always so proud of it. And it was like, it's like someone's half of someone's front yard. It would be Eric, as if you mode a 60 foot length

of the side of the interstate next to a bunch of pine trees, right? And then you met, you met at three mowers wide, 60 feet long, and then called it a park. Why? Why did they do that? Because they loved it, because it was awesome. It was the best parking Austin. It was so stupid, dude. I don't know. It sucked.

It was terrible. We'll pick, let me just get to the way good morning Gus. Oh, I thought we were going to pass on the air. Good morning, Eric. And we owe the audience something real fast. So we'll just hammer this out. Munkiness. 1 to 10.

The coffee was fine, but I have to give it a 10 out of 10 for the guy who did not heat up a sandwich or whatever you ordered. Yeah, the guy, so we didn't talk about it the whole time. Coffee was a 7. The experience of ordering a taco from a guy, a breakfast taco from a guy who then told me He was gonna heat it up and then told me he didn't heat it up But that he may have heated up but that don't blame him if he didn't heat it up because it's already been a really bad day

And then he said don't laugh at me In a really endearing way. This is the episode when it was just me and Jeff and we went to Monkey Nest. It's probably truly good that you did not come with us to Monkey Nest. I think you would have been the last. I would have lost it.

The sounds awful. I think you would have just been like, one fucking done with this place, and you already were. But it was a sweet guy, have a rough day. I had a good time. I got the coldest, most frozen breakfast talking on my life, and I didn't care. It was a sweet guy, have a rough day. I had a good time. I got the coldest, most frozen breakfast talk on my life and I didn't care. It was awesome.

It was just like bacon egg, no, sausage egg and cheese. Wasn't it called like monkey and sanity or some shit? Like it would have had like, it was just... You don't need to name it. No, anything like that. No, it was like sausage egg and cheese egg and cheese egg. You just need to name it 45 seconds in the microwave.

Yeah, right, which he did not do. Okay, and then, genuine gel. Oh, yeah, that's like, that was like the most middle of the road. I thought it was fine, my coffee. I would say it's like, whatever. Seven, yeah, very, very. I'm the eight. Yeah, I'm the eight it.

Anyway, do you want to write, do you diary all over here? Yeah, why not? We're doing a little coffee rating. We got cats on ours, right? I don't know, cats sticker on mine. It's got a little gray and white kitty. They're doing a little coffee rating. We got cats on ours, right? I know cats sticker on mine It's got a little gray and white kitty. They're gonna lose points for that Oh, it's a 24 hour comics challenge Is it going? That's a good?

That's a good pick that's artistic No kitty You know, I'll tell you what I don't want their kids so beautiful your diary unnecessarily They didn't put the stickers on. Eric put the stickers on. It's totally the inside people got stickers on. We found cat stickers when we were grabbing our coffee and then I took one and then Jeff took one. I went, this is good because then Gus won't get one

and it's gonna be a thing. So it is a racist thing, like I suspect it. It's fine. I think it has a very familiar taste to it. I can't place it. I feel like they use the same beans or very similar coffee somewhere else. It's just reminiscent of coffee I've had somewhere else. Maybe even while we were recording the show.

What is it? Is it stintens? Maybe. It might be the same coffee that you said stintensens. It's, it seems like they roast, they had their own roasts at, at Deer Diary, because I, You're right, it just,

The coffee's familiar. Yeah, because Jeff made fun of me because I got excited. Yeah, I mean, it's, again, it's fine. Maybe Jane and Jo was better. It's on part with Jane and Jo. Right around there, seven, six, seven somewhere on there. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a fine cup of coffee,

you know, I don't think it's anything right home about, but I would try their other means to see how they are. I'm gonna give the coffee a seven. I would give, I'm gonna give the pajamas a 10. What pajamas? They sell, they sell kitty cat pajamas. Are they the cats pajamas? They, well, they're cat pajamas, but they do not,

they're not four cats. Yeah, they're pretty adorable. They have t-shirts and stuff too. Yeah, yeah. It's a very well-mursing place. Yeah, just're pretty adorable. They have t-shirts since it's a very it's a very well merchandise place. A little peak peak behind the curtain. A definite record inside ordering and I sent the place where we're going to record and the outside of your diary was closed. So I walked outside to kind of try to scout ahead and find a place to record. Yeah. So I picked this spot, I picked your diary because it's a part of town we hadn't really been in, but it's closer to downtown.

It's on Chicone. Yeah. And what, 12th, like, right around there? I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. The park where I just trust not in 16th, but it's close enough. It's an area that I feel like is familiar to you guys, but it's a new, it feels like it's a new coffee shop. Like, that's a place that, like, just opened

in some new building. Well, yeah, that building was not there at two to three years ago. Why I wanted to bring you guys here. We're really close to my friend's house where his neighbor sold drugs off his front porch. I pointed it out as we, as we drove by. We told that story here, uh, on this podcast a couple episodes ago.

What was the place that was like where, so Ria Rita is the new iteration of Ria Rita is right down the road. It's up over that way, yeah. I'm not sure if it's still open. I think it might have actually closed down again. I'm not honestly. It was like, I know Randall the dude that owned it, he moved to Mexico and started a business down there

and got out of Austin, sold like this 30 bars. Rida River, he might have. And then, so then, I think Maggie, the lady that owned, oh, what's that place? Maggie Mace? No, the place on E6. Maggie Mace? I can't think of it.

And it moved to the other fuck. This is gonna be unlistenable. Anyway, a lady that you don't know, bought me a Rita, and then I think it went under again. I'm not sure if it's back up or not. But... Jeff's processing. His mouth is slightly j-

I'm not even just wondering if, you, you, you, oh, I forgot what I was gonna say. One time I was driving down to Chican over here close to where, Dure Diaries. I was driving Southbound on Chican, pulling up to the light there at 12th,

and I looked over to my right, and there was a bar there. I think it's where it might be where dear diaries. Now, somewhere right around there, maybe in a building that doesn't exist anymore. I looked over to my right and there was a bar and there were people, it was evening, I think the sun had just set and the bar was filled with people who were all sitting around drinking but there were no lights on inside the bar. It was like pitch black inside the building, but I could kinda still see that there are people in there sitting down drinking.

And it was like, what is this place? They don't even have lights. I wanna point out that Jeff is in podcast mode where he's looking something up, not listening to a word that you're saying, but he can hear the cadence where he'll politely make a noise where he goes, That's my cue. And then keep going.

I knew he was in that mode. That's why I told the story. I had to go ahead and get a great job. I had to unplug my brain because I got lost in the trying to figure out. I got lost in bar names. I got your- I was listening to you. It's the place where you drove by everybody was drinking, but the lights were out of

the creepy. It's weird. That reminds me of a lot of what E6 was like in E6 or Shadows, like in the early of mid-90s. I was gonna say that we're very close to a cross-when we're reread it is now, was next to directly across the street from that place, was a bar called the Fresh Up Club. And even that sign was there forever.

I think it's finally gone. Is it gone now? Well, I think they turned it into a condo and the sign is a part of the new condo now. Cool. But that was like an iconic. That's New Austin. New Austin, yeah, right?

That was an iconic sign for many, many, many years. And that fresh club was always popping off when I would drive by it before they build it. Yeah, that's the thing. So there was a story that we've kind of alluded to a couple of times in this podcast that we never really circled back on. And I was kind of wanted to follow up on it. Okay.

It was the time someone tried to rob the call center in the middle of the night. What? Yeah. So, you know, going back to the call center, which we covered in an earlier episode, but we could do probably. We could do five episodes just on the call center. I think we could do a whole podcast on that call center. Okay. Yeah.

But I think that's mostly what this podcast probably is. There was a, no, Spina, which we had an animated adventure about Jeff Destroy's ball. Oh, yeah, that's right. We got an animated. That's fun. But so it was a 24 hour call center. However, the call's really dropped off overnight.

So midnight shift was one, maybe two people. Cheer up Charlie's. No, okay, cheer up Charlie's, there you go. Thanks. You remember. That was the bar, sorry. Awesome. So since this particular night where we're telling the story, there was only one person working.

And I believe it was the 12 AM to 7 AM shift if I'm remembering right? Yeah. Or 11 AM to something like that. Anyway, the way believe it was the 12 a.m. to 7 a.m. shift if I'm remembering right? Yeah. Or 11 to 7 something like that. Anyway, the way it worked was there was a, to get into the building, there was like a door with a little keypad and you would punch in your employee ID to get in. And do you still remember your employee ID from back then, Jeff? No.

I do. It's my ATM pin. Is it really? Yeah. Wow, really? Yeah, and I could say that because no, I remember. Yeah. My AT, if I could say that, because no, to this day, I'm playing a replay number back then. Anyway, you're a plenching your employee number,

the door would open, you'd go in and work or whatever. And we showed up to work one morning, and the dude who was working the midnight shift told us that someone had tried to rob the place while he was there by himself overnight. And we were like, what? He's like, yeah, I was working, then I thought I heard someone in the break room and it came out and there were like two guys unplugging a bunch

of computers and monitors and trying to walk out with them. So I yelled at them and they took off. Do you remember that dude? You remember who was? Yeah, I do. Link's name, right? Your Carmelo was his first name. Okay, yeah. He was a nice guy. He was a nice guy. Really nice guy. Really liked him. And we're like, what the hell, that's really weird. How do they get in here? So we look through the logs of who logged in. It's like, oh, someone put their employee number in

to come in and rob the place. Someone that we just hired like a week ago showed up to then rob the place. What's the name we confronted them? And they were like, I don't know what you're talking about. But it turns out it wasn't actually that employee. You know, we looked at the surveillance, but we figured out it was that employee's friend

who he had told the number two so they could show up and rob the place. And that friend is in prison now. Might be out. Probably not. So questionable. I don't know how much you told me when I get into him. Some of the we've heard and found out some of the weirdest

Stranger stories about that person and the crimes That they would commit around Austin. Like just brazen, awful, awful crimes. Oh my God. And I'm hesitant to say too much because if he's out of prison, I don't want him to come after me. No, I'm gonna preface this by saying,

he was a pretty genuinely sweet guy, but just, what the things I heard about him, he has did terrible stuff. In meeting him and in a regular day. I don't think he ever had any animosity. Just did dumb did dumb shit. And just was one of those people that thought they could get away with anything so they did.

And then all at once it caught up. Oh, that's, oh. Like a lifetime of getting away with stuff, I suspect, or getting into trouble, but being able to get out of it through charisma or whatever, or being clever. And then finally one day you just, you pushed it too hard too far.

That's praise. And that day was when they tried to steal the Dreamcast games. Yeah. Okay. No, they got away with that. They admitted to us years later. Yeah. Well, it was totally me and my buddy.

Well, yeah, we had the surveillance camera. You were. And they were like, oh, I didn't think about surveillance camera. Oh, man. It's just that level of ballsiness and brazenness to just go in, like, you're putting in a unique identifier. It's not like this is a general number

that everyone shares to get into this building. It was just so fast. Absolutely nuts to me. Anyway, I just wanted to circle back on it because it's always such a strange story to me. And I feel like a couple of people have asked about it. Yeah. Since we've been doing this podcast.

But you and I are no, I mean, I look back on some of the things that we've done, some of the experiences we've had in Austin over the years. Not like we've been perfect angels the entire time. And I think back about some of the things we've done. And it's like, these are things I would never do now. Of course. And things that, despite Cigar Gus and despite owning everything

that you do, things that, despite Cigar Gus and despite like owning everything that, you know, you do, things that were genuinely bad that people should not do. Right. Yeah. Like I think about the time that we got involved with the Kepto Club. Yeah, I don't, I don't recommend anyone follow any,

anything I did from my childhood into my mid-30s. Yeah. And I don't know that we need to talk about it. You wanna talk about it? Okay, we don't have to talk about it. Just, you can draw the, the world has changed so much.

You can, you can, you can, you can fill in the details in your mind. It's probably better than what actually happened. Wow. But yeah, it's funny, I think back to when, you know, there was a big hub hub in the details in your mind. It's probably better than what actually happened. Wow. But yeah, it's funny. I think back to when, you know, there was a big hubbub in the early to mid-90s when was it Charles Barkley set that thing about?

I'm not a role model. Yeah. And like he got ripped apart. He's having the media for that. But I get it. It's like maybe, you know, you're in his case, playing basketball in our case, you know, we were doing nothing.

We were fucking losers in our 20s. We were just bored kids looking to have fun. Yeah, trying to know malicious intent. Yeah, that sounds very familiar. That's it. Is that what you just said about the other guy? No. Okay. Maybe.

Is that? Yes. Maybe. A wild playback here on this episode. This is just that all here man I've had a long couple weeks I just sit back enjoy the ride here for a little bit of podcasting we You know, we we talked a couple weeks ago about how during lunch we worked at the call center during lunch We would go down to the airport sometimes and eat like salt, lick,

or whatever, you know, before 9-11. And that made me think about something else we used to do, sometimes during our lunch, back when we worked at that call center. It was relatively new back then, but that blazer tag place had opened up down in South Austin, off of Ben White, like just West of 35. And sometimes instead of eating lunch,

during the summer we would go over to Blazer Tag and just played Blazer Tag for like 30 or 40 minutes and just like beat the shit out of middle schoolers. They would. Do you even go back to work? Dude, they had monthly rankings. They had like a monthly leaderboard and we would try so hard

and there was like a thousand people on it. And we were, we wanted to be in the top and I don't think we ever cracked top 50. We didn't go consistent enough, was our problem. There were some good ass laser taggers out there too. We had like strategies, we had like code names for each of the different locations. And like we got really, really into laser tag for a while.

We probably, we probably went four or five days a week for like two or three months before we got burned out on it Yeah, do we ever took anyone else with us? I can't remember if we took anyone else or if it was just you and me I don't know. I think it was just you and I it was just the two you rolling up four or five days a week To play laser tag. Yeah, were there enough people to warrant that that's why we have to go into summer Yeah, yeah kids weren't in school Seasonal man September October rolls around you go well so much for that packet in yeah in school. You couldn't do it during the school. It was seasonal, man. September, October, all's around. You go, well, so much for that packet in.

Yeah. What? Skeelifts closed. Yeah. I don't know how we would do a blazer tag episode. I don't know. Is there anything really, there might be a coffee shop or something down around there.

You know, there probably is. There's radios over there. There'd be really, if we did it in Glacier Tech, we get some really good audio texture. Oh man, it was so loud. It is so loud. I've been one time and it was like having a headache for four hours.

You know what else we used to do around that time for him that was, I think it predates the laser tag a little bit. And it's kind of, I guess one of the ways we all cemented a friendship with Bernie would be after work, just walking out into the woods behind T and I and shooting each other with paintball words. My God, what? We wanted to get into paintball,

but we were scared it was gonna hurt. Yeah. So it's like we got one gun, and then we're like, let's all take turns shooting each other to see how much it hurts And if it's okay, then we'll get into this yeah, and then so for a couple months We just ran around the woods at T and I of which there aren't a lot. It's just like there's trash trees between

Warehouses there might be none now. Yeah, it's probably all gone now and Just shot each other and now I can't imagine I don't think we even had Helmets or face masks. I don't think we even had helmets or face masks. I don't like so, not initially. We just had a rule, like don't shoot each other in the face, which is pretty hard to do with like paintballs

or unwieldy. And then we found out about a paintball event in Houston. And so we went for the weekend and... Wasn't like Houston or Conroe or somewhere on there? It was like Northwest to Houston. Okay. I remember you exited it on Mangum Road. Mangum Road.

That's right. We made a lot of Mangum jokes that we could. Okay. And so we went and it was this like three day paintball event that had like paintball to like three in the morning. And so we got to like, assault bases. It would go on all night.

Yeah. And it was, and it was start, I don't know if you remember this. It was starcraft themed. Yeah, it was. So there were three teams and like depending on what team you were on, you could have like different quote unquote abilities and different things you could do.

Yeah, and at one point, I remember, they had a tank. Yes. Like a paintball tank. I believe it was actually what they call, I think the trim for it was a ferret, was like the type of vehicle it was. I don't know how you remember that.

And yeah, it had like machine gun paintball turrets on the top of it. And it was like, if you saw it, you was like, oh, you had to run and hide, because I think it was gonna fuck you up. Yeah, it was, and it was like, it was insane to play, like just run through the woods at like four in the morning and sneak on the bases and stuff, but.

I'll never forget at one point, I think you and Bernie were out there in the middle of the night, like on our bellies, like, army crawling through like a bunch of brush. Yeah. And it was pitch black. Like you said, it must have been three or four

in the morning. You're not really in Houston. You're out in the woods. And like sitting in the field next to someone, you could barely see them next to you. And I remember all three of us kind of turned to each other like, hey, it's really dark. Do you think they can see us?

And right at that moment, someone in the other team fired a flare. Open to the sky. And then it was like, I can see everything. They can see us. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no.

Start running like crazy. I'll never forget like turning and looking at you guys. I like that flashing red light just reflecting off of everything like, oh my god, we're in for it now. Got it. We got lit up. It was a ton of fun. And then we stuck around just a little bit too long at the end, and I got to see like an awards ceremony

and a dude cried, and there was, I just got too much of the camaraderie of the people that were playing paintball. And I, I don't know how else to say it, other than I was just like, I just got too much of the camaraderie of the people that were playing paintball. And I, I don't know how else to say it, other than I was just like, I just found my scene. Yeah, now I get it. And then I never went back. Yeah.

And I don't know if y'all did either after that. They have. That was it for me. This is the ferret, by the way. Oh, you, I just looked up. Guess looked up the ferret for us. Yeah, so it's a ferret tank, you can Google it yourself. It looks like something from Starcraft,

I mean, if that helps. But, so you never went back, but I went back a couple of times. It was, I always thought it was a lot of fun. To the paintball event? Yeah. You went back to the paintball event? Yeah, in fact, I don't know if you remember,

maybe you were done with it by this point, Jeff, but at least Bernie and I went back and we went with our friend who worked at Bungie at the time. He like flew. Yeah, he probably beeped. Oh, beeped, sorry. Yeah. Got it.

We went with our friend who worked at Bungie at the time. He like flew down and went to like one of those events with us down there in Houston. Yeah, I had a vague memory that you guys continued doing it for a while, but that was done from, I was done. But yeah, I loved that kind of stuff. In fact, I don't know if you remember this also.

Someone had automated paint ball turrets that had motion sensors attached to them. Oh wow. So it's like they set them up all around their base, so it's like you had to have distractions to distract the motion sensors. That way the gun would look or the turret would look in one direction and you could like advance from the other. It was it was a whole deal. Like people were like spent a lot of money and a lot of time making shit for this event and they were really into it. Took it very seriously too. Meanwhile we we showed up with the cheapest guns, the cheapest markers we could buy at Academy.

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but I first moved to Austin when I was joining the army, and I was stationed at Fort Hood, just North of here in Colleen. And I was trying to remember, if I remember the day, like my first experience with Austin, and I remembered the first time I ever came to Austin, and I didn't realize it until last night when I was thinking about it, but it's kind of a crazy story.

Mm-hmm. I got, I joined the army to be a journalist, and I went to basically training in South Carolina, and then I went to a journalism school in Indiana that is no longer there, it was called Fort Benjamin Harrison. And then after that, I was stationed to Fort Hood, which is where I asked because of the Richard Lincoln movie.

So then I get to Austin, or rather Fort Hood, and I go through in processing, and I'm in like temporary housing and stuff, and then I'm done, free. And this is the first time I've been free in like eight months. Like... How old were you? This is the first time I've been free in like eight months. Oh. Like. How old were you?

Uh, I was 18, almost 19. Yeah, I was 18. And so like there was no drill sergeant, no instructor, nobody. When you say free, you mean like you can live your damn time. I mean like, I mean like I got on a bus and they dropped me off at Fort Hood and then I went in and I am processed and I put my stuff, I signed a bunch of paperwork and they said, this is your bunk for the next week

and we figured out what to do with you and they put me there and they said, okay, we'll see you tomorrow. And I was just like, I don't know what to do with freedom. Like I hadn't had that at all, you know? People had been telling me what to do 24 hours a day. And so I was just, I was instantly enclosed. I was just like some idiot punk rocker kid, right?

And probably like a black flag too short on or something. And I walk outside and it's, I'm hit with Fort Hood and the desert of it all. And, or the scrub brush of it all, and just fucking army dudes everywhere. And that was already a difficult thing with me. The army, I wasn't a very army guy, but I was in the army. You know. And so I just start walking down the street, and I'm walking on the median

between the streets just looking for like Burger King or something. And I hear the sound of a skateboard and I turn around and some punk rock kids skate up to me and he goes, hey man, what's up? And I go, not much for something to do. And he goes, I'm Jason. And I go, oh cool, I'm Jeff. And he goes, hey, did you hear Kirk Cobain died? And I go, what? And he goes, yeah, he died today. And I go not much for some of you and he goes I'm Jason and I go oh cool I'm Jeff and he goes hey, did you hear Kirk Cobain died and I go what and he goes yeah He died today and I was like are you serious? Yeah, I was like April so you get there today You're pretty far from the exact date. Yeah, that's kind of how I remember it. What so He goes yeah, man. He's dead and I was like oh cool And he's like he goes you want to go skate with me? And I was like well, I don't have a board

And he's like yeah, we'll share mine and so we went off and we skated and we're still friends by the way to this day I still text him all the time. I have a million terrible stories. I had and he's like, yeah, we'll share mine. And so we went off and we skated and we're still friends, by the way, to this day. I still text them all the time. I have a million terrible stories. I have no idea that's how you met him. Yeah, that's not. That's not. What?

He introduced me to my first wife. Wow. Yeah, they were high school friends. And he's still friends. And we're still, we somehow, our friendship has survived somehow. Ah! Anyway, so then he, I hang out with him for a while

and he's just like, he's a loose cannon out of control But I'm like this kids in the army. I'm gonna be fine because like this kids I was worried about like how am I gonna handle being in the army? So he was he was an army guy, too. Yeah, he was an army guy. Oh, he eventually got kicked out I will say this but he had a lot of chances before they kick me up surprise that never happened to you You know, I was pretty with it. Yeah, no, no, no, this army never seemed kind of your scene. Yeah. Well, so anyway, I hang out with him all day and then he goes, hey, you wanna go to Austin?

I go, yeah, I think so. So we go to Austin. So by this point, you'd never been. You just were never been from the... I had only seen it from Slacker. And we go to Austin and we go to eat at star seeds. So first place I ever ate an awesome star seed. My favorite restaurants to this day.

And then he goes, you wanna go to the strip club? And I was like, I've never been to a strip club. Can we, are we old enough? And he was like, yeah, you can get in with it if you're 18. And I remember, he took me to a strip club I'd never been before and they put a bright orange shirts on us to say that we were young. Okay.

And we sat down and he asked and then, I'll just say this, I was in the strip club for 11 minutes before we got kicked out. Oh my God. God. My first day in Austin was Kirko Bane's death. I don't remember which strip club it was. I think it might have been crazy lady,

but I'm not positive. Which is now called Cheekest Baby. It was so long ago, but I don't think it was. I think it might have been crazy lady but I'm not positive okay which is now called to you it was so long ago but I don't think it was I think it was somewhere it doesn't sit right in my head in terms of location but so anyway I had no experience in them and so my first experience with Austin was the day the Kirk Cobain died my first day of freedom in like eight months in the army and I literally was paralyzed with not knowing what to do because nobody was yelling at me. Wow. First time at a strip club and then got kicked out,

like forcibly kicked out very quickly, because not because of me, because I was sitting next to my friend Jason who was giving me a preview of the next 20 years of friendship. Did a division keep the R in shirts? No, I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember. I think they made a mistake of them all, probably.

That'd be a good one to have. I would've kept the shirt down, I sure, yeah. Because it would be a good one to wear now and go and be like, I'm under age. Yeah. He's just the first stripper that walked up to him. She was like, hey, how are you doing? And he goes, are you pregnant?

And she goes, get him. And that was it, we were gone. Oh my God. And that was it. What? And then I, we took a drove back to Austin, or back to Colleen. And that was my first day in Austin.

April 5th, 1994. It was the fifth of the sixth. It was the day he died of the day after. It was the day I found out. That's so funny. Just for reference for people who aren't from the area, Colleen's what, like an hour and a half drive away? Yeah, about a little over 90 minutes.

Yeah. Just like north. Like pretty much do north and like a smidge west. Yeah, okay. Man, that's an eventful first time in Austin. I can't, well, I was born here. I was like, I can't remember the first time I came in Austin. Yeah, I was amazed I was able to.

It was just, it was one I thought about the Kirk Cobain thing that I went like, oh right, this all happened on that day and I was able to remember it. My parents have pictures of me, like, in a stroller at Hancock Center. Like, seriously? Yeah, from like the late 70s. Yeah, it looked very different back then.

We gotta get that for the podcast. I'll see if I can find it. I think my mom's gonna visit sometimes soon. I'll'll see if I can find it. I think my mom's going to visit sometime soon. I'll ask her if she can dig it up and bring it. You spend a lot of time in Austin when you were out in like the army and everything? Oh, yeah. So it was about an hour and a half

and I had a little Mazda pickup truck. And so I would get off work. You had a report to PT at 730. And then you were off work at 6. So by about 615, I was headed You had a report to PT at 730. And then you were off work at 6. So by about 615, I was headed to, I was headed to Austin, Monday through Sunday. And then I would just, I would go to Star Seeds because it was 24 hours and it was cheap. Do you want to, do you want to sidetrack until a quick star seed story?

Oh do it, please. Yeah. We used to go to star seeds all the time. Okay. 24 hour diner. Oh, nevermind, it's going to be dope. I think, by the way, if you go there and it says stars cafe and it doesn't say star seeds, I don't care. It's always been star seeds.

You guys are the reason that I actually went there. Like hearing you guys tell stories about that, I always wanted to go. So it's like, I went, I took my wife and she just went, what is this? And I went, I think I love this place. Yeah. It's, it's, it's changed. And so it was a brief period of time

where they served Mediterranean food. I remember that. Yeah, that part wasn't great. It's gone through a few iterations over the years. But it was always, it was a 24 hour diner. There's a few of them around town. There's also like, curbing and magnolia. I've never really was a curbinger, magnolia person.

I always like star seeds more. Same. But it was like, it was one of the few 24 hour places. So like inevitably when the bars closed, everyone congregated at one of those places and we would always go to star seeds. And I remember one time, I think it was you, me, your ex, your first ex-wife and someone else.

I wanna say it was maybe John. We all went to star seeds. John ****, yeah. You believed that last name, yeah. Jesus. We all went to Star Seeds. And we should talk about him someday. We should.

And we went in to get a table and we saw Lance in there by himself. He was like sitting in that big circular table that was in the corner and we're like, oh, like we don't have to wait. Can we just sit with him? I don't know why he was in that table, like that huge booth by himself.

So we went in and sat with him. And he was, he was wasted. Like he was drunk off his ass and I was pretty drunk too. And for some reason, we got into like a hot sauce eating competition. I don't even remember this. And by the end, like, it was just me and Lance chugging Tabasco sauce. And I remember waking up the next morning with the worst stomachache. This guy, I wonder what ever happened to Lance.

Lance was a really, he was a fun kid. He, uh, he went to the call center with us. And he was, he knew the Simpsons better than any other human being on earth. He had an evil homework tattoo. He wore in the nine, in the mid 90s. He wore silk Simpsons button up shirts seven days a week. It was all he owned.

He had like every version they ever made and that was his entire wardrobe. And he played a character in RBB. He did. He was in season one. He's private Mickey. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. He's the one that got beat. There doesn't seem physically possible.

Doesn't seem physically possible. Yeah. Being a justice zone school. Anyway, I'm sorry. That was just a quick... What was that John that put with it? No, no, no. That was Lance. Yeah, okay. Only no, don't school. Anyway, I'm sorry, that was just a quick, uh, or was that John that put the, no, no, no, no, no, that was, uh, that was Lance. Yeah, okay. Uh, only no, no, no, no, no, that was John who played that character, but Lance was also in that episode. Yeah. Yeah.

All right, anyway, I'm sorry. You were talking about coming down, going to star seeds. Oh, uh, I totally derailed you. That's my, no, no, that's fine. And then so I would come down, I would eat at star seeds. Uh, sometimes just like french fries, if that's what I could swing. Uh, they don't pay them soldiers well. And then, if that's what I could swing. They don't pay them soldiers well. And then I would go to emos.

And then I would just see whoever played. Emos had bands seven days a week. And I would just go, so I went to emos, I say without hyperbole, six days a week, for three and a half years. But like maybe the best three and a half years in that bars's history. That's like 94 to 97.

Yeah. Yeah. Like when I first started going, this is back when you most was on Red River. It was in a rehearsal. In a rehearsal location on Red River, not on Riverside now, which is where the backspace used to be.

Backroom. Backroom, sorry. Backspace is a great pizza place though. It, when I first went, it was, first up it was 18 and up and it was, it was $3 to get in if you're 18 and it was free if you were 21 and up and it was for all bands and like any band that played, like you never had to pay extra money to go in. And so, I always thought that was so cool and And so, the year I turned 21, like I turned 21 in June,

I wanna say like in April or May, I think of April, they changed it to an all ages club. And then just made it five bucks to get in, and then three bucks if you were 21, I think. And I was like, God damn it, I was like months away from going to free punctures. And then they fucking changed it. And then it just became like you pay to get in, God damn it. I was like months away from going to free punk shows. And then they fucking changed it. And then it just became like, you pay to get in, whatever.

Eventually. But I was like, yeah, so I would go like six days a week. So I saw a million shows. The first show I ever went to at E-Mose was a punk show with a local Austin band. And I'll never forget it because it was a all-girl band. And they were really, really cool. And really good.

And I kind of fell in love with the lead singer immediately. And then I was in the pit later for this band UnSane, who's a fucking great band. And I fell backwards and I grabbed onto something and I just held onto something to shedding myself. And I turned around and I had just grabbed her full boob. Oh my God. And she just looked at me and I had her boob in my hand

and I went like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. And she just laughed at me and hugged me and went on her way. And I was just like trying to catch myself. It was the most mortified moment of my life. She was very, she was very gentle, sweet about it. And I was hooked on emas at that point. But yeah, so then I would just go like, I was here constantly.

There was an Air Force base, or Brooks from Air Force Base, which is where the airport is now. You could, in the military, you can stay on any military base for 10 bucks a night. So, I don't know if that's the case now, but there was a little hotel, and so I would go and stay at like the Air Force days in

or whatever for 10 bucks a night. The Hilton is now? No, I think it's all new construction. No, I don't know if that Hilton is. Anyway, go ahead, sorry. And this was not a Hilton, I said it wasn't that big building. Anyway, and then so I'd stay out there for 10 bucks a night and then so I could stay in Austin for like,

and we would pool so you could stay in Austin for like three bucks a night if you want the two friends, yeah. That's a, that's an Emo's admission. Yeah, I guess. The first time I ever went to Emo's was with you. I'd never been there before. Really, you know, I never was into the punk scene. I grew up in a real small town.

It wasn't my thing. I remember it was after you started the call center. It must have been early 99 after you destroyed bowling. One, you were probably, yeah, remember, yeah, yeah, you were like, hey, you know, let's all go hang out. Let's all go to Emo's. I was like, all right, never been there. And I remember, you know, everyone else showed up.

I drove, you know, on my own, walked in and just being like overwhelmed with that place. I remember walking in. I'll never forget the first thing, seen the first thing I saw was that, what is that, that giant elephant painting where it's like sticking a dagger through its ear? Yeah.

Or whatever. Yeah. What the fuck is this place? And then like the montage of Lee Harvey as well. Yeah, yeah. And we all just like hung of Lee Harvey Oswald. Yeah, yeah. And we all hung out and shot the shit. No, yeah, that place was cool. It was fun.

Before that, I'd always been kind of a casino person who just like kind of around the corner, across the street, not too far away. But so I'd never really made the venture up red river in that direction. Any memorable shows from Emo's stuff where you're just like, well, I can't believe I saw this band for like three dollars?

I Mean Like too many to say like every punk band from 94 to 97 play to emos Like if you name a band. I saw a like I don't think they're a very good band In retrospect, but they put on a really good show I saw like right when total chaos was like very briefly a big deal. I saw them play that were rancid put on a really good show. I saw like, right when Total Chaos was like, very briefly a big deal. I saw them play, they were rancid, they were really good.

Like, I just like, like any, like, look out records band, any epitaph band, like, I don't know, it's hard to say. There were so many fucking bands that came through there. It was like, they were bands. I don't know how they did it, but there were, there were shows seven nights a week, and there were like, four nights a week, there were probably touring bands. Well, I, I felt like, maybe were bands. I don't know how they did it, but there were, there were shows seven nights a week, and there were like four nights a week, there were probably touring bands.

Well, I felt like, maybe this is still a kiss, but it definitely felt like back then, you constantly had a rotation. Going back to something we talked about before, like the Chronicle, you would always check and see who was in town, because there was always someone, it didn't matter if it was a Tuesday or a Wednesday night, there was always someone coming through town

that you could watch play somewhere. I'm probably just so detached from that stuff nowadays. I'm sure it still happens, but it was a lot more in tune with that back then. I saw Blink when they were two there before Cheshire Cat came out when they were still Blink. Wow. Yeah. Oh, that's crazy.

That's one. There was a band that I really like called Zoinks. I got that. You probably never heard of that. Nope. There was a really good band called Zoinks, so I got to see those real good trail links. That's cool. I don't know why that stands out of 10,000 fucking bands.

Gus mentioned the Austin Chronicle, and I know that was something that you guys had noted that you wanted to talk about. Oh, I was at Whole Foods by the lunch I'm trying to try to do it. I like it. I thought you had a great job. I just dug it back up.

I got lost. I got lost in things about Zoinks. I got lost in bands for a minute. Yeah, I was at Whole Foods the other day, and I got lost. I got lost in about Zoinks. I got lost in bands for a minute. Yeah, I was at Whole Foods of the Day and I got to thinking about how important the Austin Chronicle used to be and I'm assuming the independent weekly newspaper in every major city is important

or was at this point in time in the same way. Pre-Internet. Pre-Internet. But in Austin, there's this free paper that comes down in Thursdays called The Chronicle. It's still there and it would be where you would go to get all the show listings. So you would see like, you would plan out your week, you would get the chronicle, you'd open up to the music page in the back, and then you would just circle all the bands you

wanted to see and then try to figure out how to get the money to go to all those shows or how to get off work or to do whatever. But they would also have these segments called news of the weird that was kind of like Farrak or Reddit before or just like funny internet factoid stuff. Yeah, like weird stories. Weird stories. You know, happens somewhere that you'd read up on. You would read up and they were always just like funny like foibles and like dumb criminals. Oh, it's all floor demand stuff. All floor demand stuff. Yeah, there you go. It's a great way to describe it. Floor demand stuff And then there was this, in the back,

there was this section called Misconnections, which I assume is in most of these newspapers around the country, so it's not unique to Austin. But it was great in Austin because it just became a place where people communicated a lot, and it was very funny. And I guess the word would be vibing now. It became like a pretty hotbed for dating,

and you would always, you could like publicly watch people like meet and find each other. And it was always just weird, and you would always see people you know. Like I know Becca was always, I would always see Becca in it. Oh really? Yeah, she played sister in RVB.

So somebody would always be misconnectioning with Becca somewhere, and I'd be like, that's fucking Becca, I know. But when the whole Whole Foods opened up, it changed everything. The Whole Foods headquarters was on, it's where book people is now. Well, it's where RIA is now. RIA is now. It opened up, they built the building across the street at 6 in Lamar.

You should just car a lot. A car lot with like a really steep angle on it. And I thought it was not even a new car lot. It was a used car lot. And I always thought it was like such prime real estate. You have such a weird little dumpy car lot on it. So you remember, I think half the reason that car lot lasted as long as it did

is it had that giant concrete wall with the state of the Texas flag painted on it. And it was just like kind of iconic. But yeah, so they built the new Whole Foods Foods there and it became like their big flagship Whole Foods and they hired like a million people and everybody they hired was like the hottest tattooed person at all. It became very briefly like, I don't know. It became like the Tinder for hot people was misconnections

and it was all centered around Whole Foods. Awesome. And to the point where people would be like, stop asking about people in Whole Foods. It's not gonna date the people that check out people in Whole Foods. They've got a line of people already trying to date them. And I was just like, I was thinking about it,

it was just like just really funny window and time where you would go on a Thursday just to get the misconnections, just to laugh at all the Whole Foods in this connection. You, a hunky tattooed checkout guy, Thursday just to get the misconnections just to laugh at all the whole foods in this connection. You hunky tattooed a checkout guy made a joke about my this bike is a pipe bomb t-shirt. I you know that's the sin. Yeah, well they had to be that way they knew who you're talking about. It was just always it's's always a lot of vein, you know. It's great. It's like, we talked about sustainable farming

and you told me about a place in Eugene, Oregon, you vacation at. Love to take you up on that offer. Eugene, anyone, and you're just like, fucking hell. Can I pick out a scab? Yeah, it might be allowed to make Jeff a little anger here. Oh, absolutely.

One of the things I was happiest about, but I still feel simultaneously very bad about was when I got to be on the cover of the Chronicle and Jeff did not. Was this that photo shoot? I think it was in promotion of Bloodfest. Okay, I have seen that and thought, oh, it's weird Jeff's not in this.

We, yeah, I don't know the photographer schedule that come out and I want to say it was me, Bernie, Matt, and Barbara. It was like a weird grouping of people with weird props and we did this photo and then like, immediately after we're done, was it someone texted Jeff? I think it was Bernie, maybe it texted Jeff.

And was like, hey, we just did a photo shoot for the cover of the Chronicle. It was, it was not quite, that didn't quite go down that way. What happened was, what had happened was, and yes, thanks for picking up the scab, I still am very wounded by this. 17 years ago. This was seven years ago, maybe.

Seven, six, seven years ago. I was in New York for the YouTube's creators. Oh, that's right. I think, like, whatever that is, where they like... Creator Summit? Creator Summit. We were in Brooklyn at the fucking

a bowling alley or something. We're checking out with Cardi B. She was there, yeah. Cardi B was there. This fucking... That was wild. Yeah. Yeah, I was really weird.

She gave us speech and she just talked about how the government's trying to take your money. We know. Probably the most insightful speech I heard all weekend. Anyway, so I was at this creator con thing and I get a text from Sophie in marketing. And she goes, hey, we're doing a, the Chronicles doing a cover story on us, wanted to let you know, we'd really like you to be involved.

We're gonna do a photo shoot and stuff for the cover. And I said, you have no idea, you have no idea how much this means to me. I was like, are you fucking kidding? This is amazing. She's like, what? And I was like, no, you don't get it. I've lived in Austin.

I've been in love with the city since 1994. I've been reading this magazine, this newspaper since 1994. You'd been in it before. I'd been in it before. I've never on the cover. I've never on the cover, right? To get the cover of the Chronicle.

I think my ex-wife got the cover of the Chronicle, actually. I think about it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right, yeah, yeah. Awesome. So it's like to get the cover of the Chronicle, actually. Really? I think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. So it's like to get the cover, and deservedly so, by the way. Yeah.

But to get the cover would be like such a local coup, you know? Like what a bucket list thing. And I was like, you know, listen, we've been on the cover of the Wall Street Journal. We've been on the New York Times. We've been, well, some of us were in the Wall Street Journal. That was, I say we, I was talking about me and Bernie. Right, right.

And so, but all that honestly, like doesn't mean as much as this, this little, I'm just talking about how important it was to our weekly routine. You know, it'd be like, how you plan your weekend, what fucking shows you were gonna go to, who had drink specials, whatever. And so I was like, this is fucking great.

Where do I need to be? When do I need to be? And she goes, the photo shoots in an hour. Oh, the highest highs to the lowest lows. And I said, well, that's not gonna work for me. I'm in Brooklyn. And she's like, when do you get back? And I go, I'm here for three more days. And she goes, well, that's not gonna work.

And I go, I'll tell you what, I'll fly back. I was like, I don't give a shit about this YouTube creator summit. I will fly back to be in this fucking, like, can you push it? She goes, let me see. And this is how she goes, let me see. She goes, let me see.

No. Like, and I go, okay, well, that was a really fast no. I was like, because I can get on a plane today, I can be home by 11 o'clock tonight, can we push the photo shoot till tomorrow morning? She's like, let me see. No. And so I was like,

are you fucking kidding me? And I'm like, when did you find out about this? And she's like, I don't know, a couple of days ago. And I was like, I just wanna die. And so, and then they took a photo of you guys with giant foam weapons that made no sense. And I felt a little better. But it's a weird photo.

In the grand scheme of things, yeah. It's a, I think for me, the only opportunity I will have to get on the Chronicle in my lifetime, unless I start another business or have some other success. I believe in you. You can do it. I'll help you, buddy. I'm not looking to try.

I mean, what do you want to do? Not looking to do that. So I think that was it. I don't want to be in that bad. I think that ship sailed. So that's a. I'm going to be a cover. It is a bit of a, it is a bit of a scam.

Can I tell a story? Maybe that'll make you feel a little better than? Yeah. We're talking about emo. the guy just hit that up. He hit that pi-wan so fucking horrid. I hope that audio texture came through. So you're talking about emo's and like, we spend a lot of time up there on Red River.

Yeah. Like emo's, Red Eyeed Fly, Bulma Caves. Bulma Caves. We, there was a place across the street from Red Eyeed Fly next to Bulma Caves. What was that place called? It was right next to Bulma Caves. Like if you're looking at Bulma Caves across the street from Red Eye Fly next to Bulma Caves. What was that place called? It was right next to Bulma Caves. If you're looking at Bulma Caves from the street, it was immediately to the left.

Valhalla? They became Valhalla. Red Seven. It was Red Seven, yeah. And then we never went there too much, but it was also at Leesium right there, which we did not spend a lot of time in. But I think back specifically to one time, I think it was just you and I alone for some reason. We went over there, I wanna say it was to a red eye fly.

And we saw the most adorable band ever. Cat Scratch. Cat Scratch. It was like this band of like, Cat Scratch. High school girls, I was like all four members, they looked like they were 15 or 16. And I don't know, they were just like giving it their best

and you know really into it. I was like man, that's really adorable. And I don't know, they were just like giving it their best. And you know, really into it. It was like, man, that's really adorable. And Jeff made a joke that after they were done performing, like the leasingers mom was going to come out and serve cake to everyone. And I used that as an AOL, as an AOL is their messenger handle for a long time. My aim handle was might be cake.

I think cake was because Jeff said, hey, when the catch catch is done playing, there might be cake. The cake was because Jeff said, hey, when the catch catch is done playing, there might be cake. And I thought it was like, it was so funny. And then two years later, the lead singer died in a heroin overdose. I was about to say, I think that that band had a moment and then it kind of took a dark turn.

I didn't remember that part. I just remember something. They were like real up and coming. Like they were really in a way, they were good. And yeah, drug overdose. That's coming. They were really in a way, they were good. And yeah, drove over those. That's really sad. I had totally forgotten about that night. Yeah, that was fun.

I thought about it every time I signed into aim, which I haven't done in time. I had no idea that's where you got the name from. My BK, there might be cake. It was the time we saw cat scratch at Red Eye Fly. Cat scratch. But it's when you were talking about all these punk shows you saw Eddie and Mose, which is amazing.

And I've never been a big music person. Yeah, on top of the fact I grew up on the middle, no one ever toured down there. I think you got a bunch of Hano bands in the town I grew up and I saw Selena. Yeah. In fact, if you watch the Selena, yeah, if you watch the Selena Netflix show,

they mentioned Eagle Pass. I went to that show because there was a riot that broke out. And it's in the show on Netflix. Oh, we talked about that. Yeah, anyway, if you watch that Selena show, they go to a town and there's a riot. And they see, they keep bringing it up, how they'll never go back to the town.

That was the town I grew up in and I was at that show. How was the show? It was fine, it was great until the riot broke out. But so when I came to Austin, I never saw, How was the show? It was fine. It was great until the ride broke out. But So like when I came to Austin I never saw I never really sought out like a lot of bands and it really sought out a lot of stuff However that being said I Did in 1999 I went to Lilith Fair. Did you really? Yeah? Down at South Park Meadows South Park Meadows now is like a huge shopping complex

But back then it was like a big festival ground. It was outdoor concert. Yeah, I saw a bunch of mediocre bands there. And I went to Lil Faire with the girl who's dating at the time. And I remember there was a bunch of great artists that I was really into at the time, like Erica Badoe performed, Natalie Merchant, Bonnie Rae, Liz Faire Sarah McLaughlin, of course.

And I remember thinking that this was gonna be a cool thing I was gonna go out there with my girlfriend. And it didn't strike me as an unusual thing to be going to until I got there. And I realized there were only two dudes in the entire festival. You are not the demographic of a little affair, man. I knew the other dude that was there.

It was, it was, what you probably, probably beep the name, sorry Eric. God. But I remember I walked into the festival, I looked at, I was like, it's all women here. Hey, it's my friend,

and he was sitting on the ground, he looked up at me, and you, you had the weirdest, most guilty look on his face, and I was like, he seems like he'd be a little a third.

Yeah, and I was like, I'm here to have fun, man. This would be awesome. Yeah, when I'd stay out there all day, it was great. It was like his vibe. It was a great show. He worked at the call center. He worked at the call center too. But yeah, I remember it was such a weird like dining realization walking in and be like, oh, there's no guys here. Yeah, it is weird that you think of South Park Meadows now as the as the place where Gatti town is. Yeah, and and a good best buy. But the best buy where Adam Elleshy's story.

Yeah. Actually, but yeah, I saw a big audio dynamite play there. And the spin doctors. The spin doctors. I thought the gin blossoms. Those are the shows I got drug to by my army friends who were like, dude, you made me go watch some band. You made me go watch some band. You made me go watch some band called

the Queers Play for two hours last night. You have to go see the gin blossoms. Yeah, I'm like, all right. There's probably probably got some more in three bucks to go see those shows. Yeah, I feel like we're wrapping up, we're getting right on the time. I feel like Lilith Faire could come back now

and it would kill. I think so. I bet. I feel like it's been enough time where. It's been 25 I think so. I feel like it's been enough time where. It's been 25 years. Yeah. I feel like it's been enough time where it's like, lollipalooza salt, you know what I mean? Yeah, lollipalooza is still like a thing.

Yeah, it's had a whole resurgence. I feel like completely there could do like a big touring thing like that and it would fucking crush. I feel like it would crush right now. Yeah, especially if they like, they kind of, they highlighted all the hits from that era, but also brought in like the, like the Sharon Donette, and those kind of people

of the world, you know? I feel like you could do that with a lot of like, the Phoebe Bridges. Yeah, you do that with a lot of like a female artist and like female advance and stuff. I feel like you would kill. I feel like that you could just make a ton of money. So maybe that's how you can get on the Chronicle

if you start a new author. Get like a saint, what's her name? St. Vincent? St. Vincent? Yeah. I keep keep going. I'm not gonna stop. I was waiting to see if there was another one.

Or did you have something that we have to wrap up? Yeah, we're at like 55 minutes, dude. I felt like we barely started. I like your shirt. Is that a black box? This is a black box down shirt. It's available at store.rst.com. I was gonna say we should have some

anma merch, hopefully pretty soon. Oh, I hope so. Because the one shirt we wanted to make, we can't. Yeah. So we're making another one, and I'll be honest, I like it more. It's good, sure.

I like the idea of the other one, but I like that, like this is a shirt that I'll wear more often. There's a, I'm not gonna get into it right now because we're wrapping up. I don't know, you probably know the store you weren't there, but this is the store I need to tell in the future about the time.

I went to Elysium with Frank and we ended up at that Denny's over there at MLK in 35. You'll remember the store when I tell it, but it's on my notes here too, but thank you for writing it down. You got it. Eric, it's another Frank store. I'm like, we should get Frank on the podcast at some point. Oh, yeah, we got it.

But I'm hesitant to like tell more, I feel like we've told so many Franks. Maybe I'll save it for when he's on at some point. Okay, so that reminds me, I ran into Brian Garth the other day and I was like, we gotta have you on. Oh, yeah. And he was like, just any time. But then I feel like if, I feel like we should have Jason on

for, Jason should be the first guest. So we should, should we reach out and try to get Jason on next week? You can. Yeah, we know. That's cool. If he's cool with our record time, if not, we can move it. Okay.

We'll figure something out. Yeah, we can, we can be pretty much. Okay, cool. So any guesses on the name this week? Oh, oh, oh man, you, that's right. I saw someone on social media that pissed me off. Somebody, somebody said it. Listen, I'm gonna tell you, I know what he's gonna say and I did it on purpose to piss him off. Got, okay, go ahead. Somebody put a fucking episode in sp- like, said it. Listen, I'm gonna tell you I know what he's gonna say and I did it on purpose to piss him off.

Okay, go ahead. Somebody put a fucking episode in Spanish, like, like, Spanish. It is? Spanish, right? And then Gus was like, like, now you're thinking, isn't even in English, am I thinking of the wrong language? That's the only reason you did it, right?

I have not said whether or not it's an English or Spanish. And we have covered before that I do dream in Spanish sometimes. That's true. We do. God damn it. Well, that makes it a lot harder for me. Okay. I had to go to consult. I did that on purpose.

I knew that would happen. That's, I will say, in the past, I've said some, a couple of people have gotten really close. I'd say like 90% of the way there. Mm-hmm. So if that helps, you are not Jeff. In the past week, someone got like 95% of the way there. So if that helps, you are not Jeff. In the past week, someone got like 95% of the way there. Like they got even closer.

I was like, oh, they almost sunk my battleship right now. I know. I increased 5% on a guess of four letters. There's four letters, four words, question mark. First of all. And then there's a bunch of letters in there. So they're getting closer They're getting closer. Someone's gonna get it. I feel it

So that being said, I'm I kind of set up for For guesses right now, okay The guess that somebody guessed in Spanish was of us was it obviously snow me a quarter. Yeah. What does that mean? Sometimes I don't remember Yeah, sometimes I don't remember It's on call the basis that I really like. That's why I felt about Chip Charlie's earlier. Is. Uh, man, I, I'll try, I'll throw out some of these guesses that people put out on social media.

Um, Joseph R said another more, uh, another normal morning in Austin, which I feel like everyone guesses. So I'm putting it out here on the podcast. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There are some that people guess over and over. Yes. That make me want to punch my screen. Yep, annoying modern Austinites. Oh, that's a good one. No. Austin makes Austin.

No. Okay, and then let's see what the last get, A-N-S-My-As. Oh, that's excellent. No, that is dream logic too. Yeah, but no, no, I've decided. Well, those are all my guesses. Jeff thoughts?

Those were my guesses too. Oh, I knew he was gonna say A- no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Okay, no, no, no, okay. There is no butterfly here. Yeah, that's what that is kind of. Yeah, but not quite Yeah, oh, I'm not that in the in the idea of it. Well, because he's wearing a Kind of a butterfly a razor nights. Oh, or razor nights my friend's band So it looks like a butterfly. It's got this like it's like a bazoo's you come a situation. Oh, I mean I could say moth man, but yeah, that works too listen to red web They go if you want to follow us at AMO podcast on Instagram, on Twitter, hopefully have some new merch coming out soon. Maybe a couple of mugs for your coffee.

A little bit more than coffee. Yeah. Oh, the idea that we have for that is, I can't wait to see who wins. And Shirt, which is very cool, you should pay attention to Slack. And then- You really should pay attention to Slack.

I mean, like we have it. We've talked about this. We all said like this is cool. I think you even replied and said, like, I like this. I don't remember. So that's what we have coming out. And let people know about this podcast. Go, you have your friend from 2009, who you're like,

oh, a new episode of RVB, let them know that this podcast is out and this is a thing. So just send a message. Send them an episode. Not hard to, oh, where should I start? The beginning, this is early thing. So just send a message. Send an episode. Yeah. Oh, where should I start at the beginning? This is early. Yeah.

Also, you just jump around. Yeah. Who cares? None of this is canonical. I mean, they're all canonical, but none of them are in order. Right. They don't actually reference back, but who cares? Yeah, who cares?

It's not like you're missing the lore. Yeah, really. I can't find this. I'm going to go get on that slide before, really. All right. It's a message with Tony. Tony. Yep. All right. Bye, guys message with Tony. Tony. Yep.

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