ANMA - Average President’s Day

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Good morning, Gus! We're back at it with a new run of canon episodes and this week we head over to a spot found just a week ago: Violet Crown Cafe. Located by Little Deli, Violet Crown Cafe has a little history and the weather is a little rough so we retreat to the studio. This week Gus and Geoff talk about Nvidia, Website issues, It’s so cold, Tacos tricks, Commercial real estate recovery, Birth rate declines, Readdressing conversations, Super Bowl total viewing, and Reinventing the Internet. Check out store.roosterteeth.com to grab a shirt and anarchymeanything.com to sign our guestbook. Also sign up for FIRST because we're going to do that lawyer draft soon. Sponsored by Factor http://factormeals.com/anma50 and use code anma50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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only at Alienware.com slash deals. That's Alienware.com slash deals. Like it's been coming up because I guess the stock is doing well. It's been coming up because I guess the stock is doing well or it's a hot meme stock right now And so on video so on C-span and all those places. I see them referred to as in the video Like it or not C-span, but like what is it C-span? Cnbc maybe maybe Cnbc is one thing I'm sorry. What do they say? They say nvidia Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about. I see him like Pete analysts say nvidia

I've been buying the video video cards for 20 years. And I've been saying it wrong, longer than 20 years. That's what I'm saying. It freaks me out every time I hear it. I'm like, what the fuck are they? Did I need video cards? My first NVIDIA card was a Riva TNT,

NVIDIA, I think it had 16 megabytes of, VRAM, if I remember right. It was a Threadud accelerator. Listen, I'm bringing it up because it freaks me out every time I hear it remember back like When 3d accelerators first or 3d got what am I saying when 3d video cards first came out right like your onboard video couldn't do it I don't remember this there was a brief window in time in the late 90s You and I would talk about this a lot where not only was there a market for like 3d video cards that could do games and whatnot

But also for like 2d video cards, and you games and whatnot, but also for like 2d video cards and you're like Oh that made rocks g200 that 2d images Windows desktop has never looked so crisp. Look at the pixels on that like onboard video crap made rocks g200 whoo man I'm gonna pay $400 to see my my computer look fucking brilliant remember that shit. I'll fucking stupid Gus is fired up Wait, we're like we spent good money to buy Shit that we just take for granted now who fucking cares well this episode 74 of the podcast Welcome back from a break. I just wanted to get recording because we were talking about that

NVIDIA and video thing yesterday And I knew that it was gonna just it's just the kind of thing that's gonna get Gus. Oh, 100%. Yeah, it's people telling you what to do with your money going, NVIDIA is out. Well, it's one of those things where you see it and then you go, ah shit, have I been saying it wrong for 20 fucking years? We should start saying Kenbook. Is that a CNBC? Kenbook. Man, I was watching Jim Cramer on Can Book this morning. He was really yelling about no video. So, we're back from- Watch, I'm wrong. There's one actually, Gus. I'm excited to find out. Let us know in the guest book, which is back online.

Oh, okay, yeah. AnarchyMeAnything.com, by the way, is the website where you can sign the guest book. By the way, I love when people reach out to me via the so all right email address Uh-huh, but it's don't reach out to me to tell me about problems with Gus's guest book I can't fix them. Oh, that's not and I won't see them in like I check that email address I check that inbox like once every three weeks. So I won't fucking I just like say I'm not doesn't piss me off or anything But it's just like if you're gonna report any kind of an issue to me, it's not gonna get noticed for a while.

Thank you, Jeff. I need to put a contact the webmaster email. There you go. Oh, LinkedIn. LinkedIn. So the old guest book had some problems. Namely, it's like there was no way to stop bots from posting stuff on it.

And once they found out about it, and the data, they're like, a new website with a guest book! It's been a year! I was afraid of like malicious code injection, right? And it's like there was also no way for me to really get rid of any messages that might be doing things like that. So I had to switch over to a new one.

And I didn't want to lose all the old entries that people have done on the old one. Yeah, because they're fucking classic. So I manually copy and pasted all the old entries that people have done on the old one. Yeah, because they're fucking classic. I manually copy and pasted all of them. Are you serious? Yeah, it was, it was our sport. Dude, I was about to say that's some early RT, working harder than Smarter.

Yeah, I'm sure, like, we have people here who know how to more smartly do that, but they were very busy, so I'd want to bother them. Right, but they were pumped to help you break an HTML website. They were also just as excited about this as you. I'm trying to stay under the radar kind of here. I mean, it's the right thing to do. But also, I think the people that want to help you write HTML for this thing, they'll keep it under the radar.

They're excited about this. They're talking about staying under the radar. We had a meeting with Merch on Friday. We all went for lunch together. We had to make a secret pact. Yeah. We're never going make a secret pact. Yeah. We're never gonna tell anybody about what we're doing ever again.

No, it's good. It really works. But we're back. We're back after some supplemental. Yeah. That was a great episode that last one. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

The people are enjoying it seem to be enjoying it. Me and Jeff, if you didn't listen, that's fine. How dare you. But all right, it's a longer supplemental where Me and Jeff, if you didn't listen, that's fine. How dare you? But, all right, it's a longer supplemental where me and Jeff just had some lov mics, went, got some coffee, records, pizza, just like cool, like little walk and talk. Yeah, it was nice.

Yeah. It was a really good time. I think Gus is jealous though. Yeah, I'm pretty jealous. Cause I had the idea I wanted to do an episode like driving around in a car, but this is an even better idea. And I wasn't involved. Well, I mean, that's what supplemental weeks or four, man. Just sort of like. Even better ideas. I wanted to do an episode like driving around in a car, but this is an even better idea

Well, I mean that's what supplemental weeks or four man just sort of even better. Yeah Yeah, doing experimental stuff pushing the boundaries of what you can truly do on a podcast Gus is gone We can truly sore. Yeah, are you are you allowed to do a podcast like that? It sounds like my wife putting together her show Are we allowed to talk this long without talking about the book? Yeah, you can do anything you want Our wives show is getting dirtier and dirtier and more disturbing It's gross fuck she tells me about stuff, and I don't want to hear it I'm just like save it for your show. She's like no. I need to know if this is like good I'm like it's all bad

They're they're discovering stuff. I've got sick of watching on Pornhub years ago. Good morning. Good morning, Gus. We, we, we tried, we set up and to do this, to record this episode outside, but, and it was a, it's a beautiful day, but that wind is so strong and so cold. It forced us back inside into the studio. It almost blew your taco away. You gotta break this taco.

Oh yeah, a full ass, fully wrapped taco. The wind took it, yeah. I was afraid it was gonna take my cup of coffee away. It was so strong and so cold. So we set up, we had the mics, we're ready to hit record. Like, what are we doing? Let's go back inside. Did you see recently, there was a post on the,

I believe it was on the ANMA subreddit, of little video of this dude, these two chefs making breakfast tacos. And they're like, is this what they're talking about when they make breakfast tacos? So- It is not. I didn't see that. It's two, here's the thing.

Don't get tricked dummies by what like internet videos of people making food in clean kitchens with clean aprons. These are people who are just quick cutting together, chopping up brisket or whatever. Well like center cut bacon or something. It was weird. It's like a guy who Josh something that like lives in Austin and does cooking videos.

And then this woman that I've seen on TikTok a lot, she's a chef and they're both, they're making breakfast tacos, but it's in that way of like, this is presented very clean. Look at these quick cuts that we're making as we dice these onions and like that kind of thing. And then they take a bite and they go,

oh, it's so good. And it's like the way you've never reacted eating a breakfast taco because it's eggs and potato. Also the only thing that really resembled a real Austin breakfast taco was the red sauce they made. Everything else was just like, it was like, it'd be like if you describe to a really talented chef, right? These ingredients and you just put it together

and you kind of loosely explain it to him and you go, all right, you make it. And he's never seen one, he's never eaten one, he just uses his chef abilities to create his best version of what you told him. So it looks adjacent to a breakfast taco, but you look at it and you're like, I would not, I wouldn't eat that every day.

The way you describe that sounds like Gordon Ramsay is gonna steal that and make another television show out of that. Like, people describe some food to him and he tries to make it. It's like he were telling me on the way over, you were telling me about some Spanish movie you watched. Yeah. The platform.

And as you were describing it to me, I went, oh, that's next level chef. It's airing right now. That was the three just came out. Yeah, it was a... It was a... I saw it on Netflix. It's a movie. They called the platform. It's a Spanish movie But what's weird is in Spanish the name of that movie is the whole Was there a hole in America already probably or?

Maybe they were afraid of it getting confused maybe Because when you even said it and you said it's called the whole the first thing that went to my mind Was that movie the descent for some reason? I thought like oh, maybe it's like a cave's called the whole, the first thing that went to my mind was that movie, The Descent for some reason. I thought like, oh, maybe it's like a cave and they gotta go to the bottom of it. But then you went the other route and it went up. The whole goes up. Yeah.

My holes are unidirectional. Absolutely. You know, they're only natural enemies to pile. That's true. That is a great sense. That is a great sense. What season is that? That's like season five.

Is it really that old? It's early. Oh, wow. You think we should just do an episode where we just speak in Simpsons? Yeah, we just say Simpsons quotes. We're not even trying to like go, yeah, what about this reference?

We just keep saying Simpsons quotes and then laugh and then say more Simpsons quotes. I'm in season 32 now. Oh my God. And I saw my first glimpse of the pandemic like the the Simpsons are wearing masks. Oh yeah it's like it was for the Treehouse of Horror that came out for season 32 like the intro they were wearing masks because of COVID. I was like oh I'm almost caught up. I wonder how many people younger

than us watch The Simpsons or would get any of those references. I don't know that Millie has ever, or anybody that Millie knows has ever seen an episode of The Simpsons. I think it might be even a little young for like a lot of millennials, or a little old for a lot of millennials. Who's watching it then? I think Gen X, I think us. People that discovered it in the fifth, sixth and seventh grade.

I was watching it. Like new episodes? Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't allowed, but still did. No, I mean, like, like, I wonder who watch who who was watching seasons 30 and 31 as they were airing new. Oh, I see. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know who watches. I mean, I don't know who under 50 watches network television. I guess I know yeah me I've been watching true detective. Have you seen have you been watching now? I haven't seen it. It's pretty good It's I heard of the sci-fi ish, so no, I was afraid to be space problem. Not really no, okay No, it has that interesting setting. Super natural in? Kind of, maybe a little.

Where it's above the Arctic Circle, and it takes place after the sun sets for the year. So it's always nighttime. Isn't there a show called Murder at the End of the World, with a similar premise? Setting? Setting, similar setting. I believe so.

And it's also like there was that movie Insomnia. I believe it was a- The Stellan Skarsgard movie? Yeah, it was also the same. They remade it. Right, there was an American, there was a, I forgot what the original, the original one was.

The original hero I think was in the remake. Right, the original one was either, maybe it was the Norwegian or Swedish. There was Norwegian, I'm sorry, there was Norwegian, I knew that. And then, yeah, they remade an American version with, say Robert. I thought maybe Al Pacino maybe was up to you Yeah, I get that dude there that Al Pacino Robert and Nero and Dustin Hoffman are the same to me I they're interchangeable. It's the same that's also the same premise where it's like the Sun goes down and then it's it's not time

I think I think that that is a very Interesting setting and I think that it's fucking cool that there are places in Earth where you can experience an entire day with no sun or an entire day with no night. Do you remember, it wasn't executed terribly well, but it was a great premise that movie 30 Days of Night, it was based on a comic book. No, I never saw that. Vampire movie, same thing. They go up to Alaska, they get 30 Days of Night, vampires come out, rule the world for 30 days, and the humans gotta try to survive in remote Alaska because it's never daytime. That's a cool premise.

Yeah, it is. The movie kinda falls apart pretty quickly, but, or at least I remember it. I saw when it came out 20 years ago probably. I think it had Josh Hartnett in it. The only thing that I remember from that movie is a woman saying, oh, God, no, and then the vampire sort of looks around it, he says saying, oh, God, no. And then he, the vampire sort of like looks around it.

He says like, no, God. Oh, this is fucking, oh my God, that's fucking cool. No, I never saw that. I have vague memories of it. Doesn't that suck when you know you've seen something you're like, I don't think I like that, but I can't remember why because it's been so long. Or then you go back and rewatch it like,

no, I don't know what that was thinking. This is actually good. That's part of why this podcast has been great for me, because there are so many times we'll be riding around Austin with Emily, and she'll point at a restaurant, and I'll go, I don't like that place. And she'll go, why? And I go, I don't know.

Uh, I don't know. I had a bad experience here in 1998. I don't remember what it was. But I know I don't like Austin Java Company. I just can't tell you why. Yeah. Oh, fucking hell. It's funny how that works. But I know I don't like Austin Java company. I just can't tell you why It's funny it's funny how that works It's it's I guess it's good to revisit some of that stuff or have a sounding board to remind you Yeah, and also you can hear yourself and go like wow that's I'm ridiculous

Yeah, I've written off a place for 25 years, and I can't even tell you why yeah It's all good. Well, what's the last place like that drove by? Has there been one recently that sticks out in your mind? Or movie that you think you don't like? Man, I wish something was coming to mind off the top of my head. Uh, probably. Just nothing is springing to mind. I feel like for a long time I did not like the village draft house. We both didn't like the village draft house.

And now it's the only draft house I like. I thought that the original, well it's back like when it first opened, right? Like why would I go there? The original draft house is better. It felt like an imitation of the original. Right. And the seats weren't comfortable, the tables kind of sucked, but over time it's like that's my favorite draft house now. It's the only draft house that still feels like the draft house. And that's not to be negative towards the other draft houses.

You and I are holding onto a fucking time and place. Business just changed. Yeah. But I was there a couple of weeks ago, I saw Rushmore, one of my other customers. Oh, did you do the 25th anniversary thing? I saw the 25th anniversary. I forgot how short that movie is. I've seen that movie dozens of times, like,

oh, this is like a 90 minute movie. Which is weird because all of his other movies are like two movies crammed in together. Right. And yeah, and they, I guess they were in, they change out the seats and the tables. The tables are great. They fucking swivel now.

They got those buttoning of, yeah, the comfy seats, like Mueller. I think it's my favorite draft house now. And I was going buttoning it. Yeah. The comfy seats like Mueller. It's, I think it's my, my favorite draft house now. And I was going somewhere with that. And I just got distracted talking about the draft house. So I forgot it. Do you ever have one of those days now that you're having a senior moment and you put me on the spot earlier?

Do you ever have those days where you wake up and your first thought is, I don't have it today. That was me this morning. I woke up this morning and went like, Oh, I'm an empty vessel. I got nothing to offer. I'm dumb today. And I don't know why. Maybe it's because I had a social weekend and I just like my battery or whatever maybe that did not used to be a problem though. I normally in the mornings when I wake up, like my alarm will go off and I try, you know, I don't believe in this news button. I like getting up right

away. The other day was it yesterday? Sunday? Yeah, Sunday. They were like, they kept talking. I sat and I kept talking about how the storm was going to come through early Sunday morning, like five or six in the morning. There's going to be potential for hail and torrential rain and whatnot. So yesterday morning, my alarm goes off like at, I'm going to wake up, you know, really early and I saw, like, I open up my phone and check the weather and like, oh, okay, the, the storms change. It's not going to hail here. It's not going to rain. I'm good. So I put my phone back down and just fell right back asleep. I like woke up totally dumb. Like my alarm went off, but instead of waking up, I was like, oh, what's the weather? Oh, okay. We're not going to get rain. I put my

phone back down and just went right back to sleep. Like, all right, that's done. Sunday check. It's like, he's like, oh, there's no rain. I can't work today. All right, let's fucking. Yeah, I woke up later. I was like, what the fuck did I do? You just needed a little extra time.

I guess so. I was just so annoyed at myself for just like autopiloting, looking at the weather and just immediately going back to sleep. When we were driving in from the coffee shop back into the studio, we drove on 35, going south on 35, we drove by a place kind of over by the link that is a new building that's been constructed.

It's maybe 10 stories glass building. It's got a big red cutout window on the side that protrudes very modern looking building. Nothing special, but I was thinking about that. I was gonna ask this question in the car and I decided, very modern looking building, nothing special. But I was thinking about that, I was gonna ask this question in the car and I decided not to ask it here. But that building is sitting empty

and it was constructed maybe two years ago around the pandemic. Are you talking about just north of the link? Yes. Just south of St. John's on the west side of 35? Yes. I believe that building was there for a long time. And they renovated it.

They renovated it. So it looks brand new. But it's been been done that process has been done for a while And it's sitting there totally empty like you can look through the building and just see the ship behind it because it's all empty floors Do you think commercial real estate will ever recover and if not what happens? What happens to these buildings like Chicago, I did an architectural tour in Chicago a couple of years ago, when Millie and I were having like a daddy daughter weekend. And I've taken this architectural tour a million times.

It's one of my favorite things to do. And I always take it when I go to Chicago because it's a boat on the river and you get to see all the cool buildings from the water. And they were like, it's like 75% empty since the pandemic. And the city is now trying to figure out what to do because we have all the space and no business wants to work in it.

And so we're trying to reinvent what it means to be a city. And I remember thinking about that at a time and going like, oh, it'd be interesting to see how that plays out. But it popped into my head today because I've seen that building sit empty for a while and a lot of buildings downtown are empty. And I see no sign, especially as the, as, I mean, it's weird, right?

Because you see the jobs report and we're hiring faster than ever and the jobs report is great and unemployment is low, but everybody in our industries and our adjacent industries is laying off massive amounts of people. And so I just, it makes me wonder, like, when does business, plus nobody wants to work in a building anymore, everybody wants to work from home anymore, and I don't know if that battle ever flips back. So just what happens to all these buildings? I think that eventually the return to work movement

will succeed. But don't you think that the pandemic shed a light on the fact that we are at a point with technology where it's not a necessity anymore? Yes. And I totally agree. I'm 100% on board for work from home. The problem is the people will ruin it

For example, you know when we're recording this the Super Bowl was last night. There was a whole segment during the Super Bowl broadcast about how Lots of hybrid workers are gonna elect to work from home on Monday because it's gonna be too hungover to go to the office So it's gonna be attitudes like that. You can't you give them an inch and they take a mile right yeah that's going to be attitudes like that. You give them an inch and they take a mile. Right. That are going to ruin the work from home idea for everyone. It's going to be people who use it as an excuse to goof off or, you know, not get as much work done, then give it a bad look that are going to ruin it for everyone else. Like, oh, we all can't work from home because too many people decided to be drunk and hungover.

I wonder. I just, I wonder. I don't know, I don't know that the people don't have enough power now that businesses just can't make these decisions. I think that, you know, there's a lot of influence, a lot of power behind the money that powers commercial real estate that is going to push people

to get back in. Yes, sure. But also, I think that, you know, efficiency and cutting cost always wins out at the end of the day when we're dealing with capitalism, right? So eventually, businesses will... It's the same reason why a lot of businesses are adopting clean technology now and renewable resources because they see that it's ultimately going to be more profitable than ICE down the road, right? So businesses I think will realize or are even already realizing that it's cheaper

to do it this way. Telenetwork figured it out 15, 20 years ago. But these businesses are also invested in commercial real estate. I understand, but these businesses are also invested in commercial real estate. I understand but not yes So I mean there there is a push and a pull there like and I get it right like I mean there are Things that we do here at work that it's way easier for me to do at home And there's sometimes where it's like I'm just gonna run home and do this because I can get it done there in Half or a quarter of the time that'll take me to get it set up here and I don't have to involve anyone

It's just there's a lot more It's just me it's dependent on me whereas here you might have to get other people involved that'll take me to get it set up here, and I don't have to involve anyone It's just there's a lot more It's just me it's dependent on me whereas here you might have to get other people involved. So yeah, I get it I'm all I'm all about it, but I have a I guess I just have a pessimistic view about it No, I know and I do too. How many people I mean I think pessimism is like the mood of our generation Pesimism and like nihilism, right? Factors delicious ready to eat, make eating better every day easy. Wherever tomorrow takes you, be ready with pre-prepared, chef-crafted, dietitian-approved meals delivered right to your door. You'll have over 35 different options a week to choose from, including keto, calorie smart,

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Like I appreciate coming to the office. I appreciate that we, when we all get together and we sit into a room with a whiteboard, we have 10 times the ideas than we ever would have had individually on our own. I'm not decrying the benefits of working in office because I like the benefits of working in office. I just feel like there has been a seismic shift and I just don't know that things can shift back to the way they were.

And we just have all this real estate kind of caught in the middle and something's gotta happen to it, right? Because we find a use for everything. I don't know if you've seen like in New York, I think in Manhattan specifically, they're trying to find ways to convert commercial spaces, to residential spaces. And it turns out that it's way more challenging

than you would expect. Because from a fundamental layout perspective, the buildings are radically different, right? Like an office isn't plumbed to have water and sewer connections for every quote unquote unit. You know, it's like you have central core of the building, where all of that's run through. So like how do you do that?

You know, every residential unit has to have a window or windows, but you know, when you build an office, that's not necessarily the floor plan you have in mind. So it's like, it's not a matter of just like okay. We're gonna put up a couple walls and this is a Condo now well, there's also the reality is to and I would maybe need Eric to look this up to make sure I'm not completely off base here, but I believe there are more homes in the in America than people are there so I mean a lot of those homes aren't necessarily homes that you would Want to live in a lot of you know a lot of dilapidated boarded-up homes

But I do think that there's like enough homes for every I think it was one of the fucked up things about homelessness is Or unhoused people is that there are homes for everybody. They're really that they exist There are places with roofs for everybody But as we just don't want to give it to them Yeah, we don't want to give it to them or we don't, or it's not in any kind of condition and it needs to be picked up. Or realistically, it's in a dead town, a ghost town where nobody lives and there's no infrastructure

for any reason. So US housing units as of July, 2021 numbered 142.15 million. There's 332 million people. So it- So theoretically, because people- People don't live one to a- Care up. Right, I was gonna say. So, yeah, on its face, you go,

well, no, there's twice as many people as there are homes. It's like, right, most people aren't living a single person. And also, a child is not living- Three people live in my home, two people live in yours. Exactly, yeah, it's that kind of thing where it works, like, and there's a way to make it work. I think my problem with the work from home stuff or the return to office stuff, because I appreciate the work from home stuff, is that the get back in office thing isn't what

you're saying where it's now we're more collaborative. It's nefarious because the people who are saying get back in the office are the people who own the building to make the money to get back in the office are the people who own the building Yes to make the money to get back in the office. We have to justify the mortgage and that's and that's my problem with that That's my issue. I think You know, it's interesting you talk about the number of homes in the United States versus the number of people, you know Thankfully that number doesn't seem so bad. I was thinking about when when you said that, I was thinking about like the Evergrande collapse in China where it's like they just went off to the races

building homes and it's like, oh shit, we have way too many homes for people. Like we need to, we can't finish building these because we already have way too many, which is a whole other disaster. I'm surprised that hasn't had bigger repercussions here. I thought for sure when Evergrande Officially collapsed like oh man, we're fucking in for it here in the United States. I'll tell you man

It's one of the things that one of the things that I think was kind of a nice Side effect of the pandemic or us all having to go through that is we live in a city like Austin where it has been at like 95% occupancy most of the time we've lived here and they can't build houses fast enough yet There are boysy has got fucking houses coming out of their ears, right and the pandemic and work from home really leveled that People people really started to spread out. There's a whole look the country's big Yeah, the country's big right and let's let's use the spaces that we have, you know, I Watch a lot of I'm not I'm not playing with my dick,

there's like a piece of chrome right there. I don't have a dick, do you? I don't care. There's a chrome on my jeans. I watch a lot of documentaries on NHK, which is like the National Broadcast Corporation for Japan. Mm-hmm.

And I feel like every other story they do is about the declining aging population and how there's not enough people to maintain the houses. And like all the small towns are dying. And to the point where like it's a strange problem they have, bears are starting to take over parts of towns. Where it's like there's not enough people at the outskirts so like the town seems much

smaller and like there's nobody there. So the bears feel safer. Right, they're seeding territory. They're coaching everywhere, yeah, in Japan. It's like this weird problem, like we have fewer people, older people, so the bears are taking over, which is wild to me. But anyway, we talk about like, again, a situation where there's tons of houses that need help. They need people in them because they're falling apart because they've just been neglected

for years, if not decades. How do you prevent the bears? They have to set up sound emitting devices on the perimeter of town. Someone go, it's just a recording of a guy going, hey, no bears. But yeah, or have people wear bells when they're out and about. So you don't startle a bear. Oh my God. Like stuff like that. Like be more diligent about not leaving trash out. Yeah. Make sure it's all sealed up. It's just wild and I think we're gonna see, you know, without,

I think people forget that, right? Like without, if birth rates decline, you need some way to continue to maintain that population. Yes. And I think that the United States has been very fortunate from an immigration perspective, because even as birth rates decline, people still want to come. So you can buoy that population, because without that, if the population continues to decline, then like social services aren't funded to the point where they can sustain population. A population in decline is in every way a society in decline.

That's a huge problem. Yes, people don't understand that. It is a huge fucking problem. And I think that, you know, we've been very fortunate. You know, obviously, you know, Japan's population can issue a decline. I'm sure they're working on ways to do that. But here we're bolstered by people still wanna come here. And thank goodness they show up and can pay a tax

or continue to do work that other people don't wanna do. It's all kind of connected in a very direct way. Anyway, that's my immigration talk. And by the way, I also understand that a population is in decline, at least in America, and that people don't wanna have kids because they don't feel like they can afford to have kids. Like, it's not an indictment on people.

Or it's not safe. Or it's not safe to have kids. Or they don't, yeah, exactly. They don't want to raise a kid in this fucking environment. I totally get that. I'm one of them. Yeah, I'm not, like, I think it's sad. I think it sucks to see a population in decline

because it means that, like you were saying, social services are going to decline. We're going to start breaking apart at the fringes, the bears are gonna start getting closer, you know? I wanna kinda lay this out there, because we do this a lot, and it's not just this show, I think it's most podcasts and most shows. The language that we use when you make a point,

and then quickly have to go, and I want people to know that I mean, this is the way that I mean it. That's not all, like I'm not trying to get at you about this. I hope that if you're listening to this, you know that in no way what we're talking about is malicious towards you or any of your friends or family or anyone you know.

And that when you hear us say this stuff, it is years of being in media and having to deal with people who can't wait to jump down your throat for saying something like yeah, man That's a birth rate decline is a society in decline and somebody going I'm fucking mad I'm personally insulted by this so please know that like listening to the show and really everything else we do There's no maliciousness, but behind anything that we're saying here, and I hope I hope that you would have that understanding Listening to this show. And I hope that you would have that understanding

listening to this show. I would hope so too. I would hope so. And we do have to say these things because every episode could be somebody's first episode. Yeah. And so you do have to say these things, but I hope that there's some media literacy that you have

that you're hearing this and you know that when Jeff said that, you're not going, can't believe he said that about me, man. Well, I just, I know these people in front of there, like, well, I know I'm gonna get a bunch of posts on Instagram for people that are like, of course we're not having kids, asshole. We can't afford to have kids.

It's like, I never said you could. Exactly. But I'm right there with you. And I'm hoping that when you hear that, your head doesn't immediately go to, I need to correct this guy. He's so fucking, I'm not, not to go up on a, not to rant about the incredibly privileged job I have

where I get to be entertaining and talk for a living, but it is exhausting to, while you're pushing a conversation forward and you say something to, in the back of your head, be having a second conversation saying, do I need to go back and readdress this? Let's take a second in my head and think about, did I say something that could be misconstrued

or offensive in a way that I didn't intend? Oh God, what was Gus saying? Oh, I can't remember now because I'm in my fucking head thinking about this. When you were talking about work from home, that's what I was doing. I was like, well then of course we're not even addressing the fact that people may not have the space to work from home

or like broadband and like there's a lot of other societal factors that go into that too, but I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna push that aside. Yeah. I think that it's something that we need to be like very cognizant too, but I'm like, no, no, I'm gonna push that aside. Yeah. I think that it's something that we need to be like very cognizant of, I don't know, I just, I hear a lot of this from us, but not just us, it's every podcast I listen to

has this language and I wanna try, not trying to like take a stand and put a stop to it. I just want people to be mindful of like, nobody here is being malicious toward- We're not attacking you. At all. Also, just from me personally, I don't know who you are. Right, I was gonna say I don't know who you are.

I don't know who the fuck you are. Thank you for listening. I don't know you personally. Unless you left a comment on the guest book. Right. Which means we're best friends. And I just think it's important to have that sort of knowledge or understanding to be able for everyone to take a step back

and be like, hmm, this conversation might not be about me personally right now because we're speaking broadly over some microphones drinking some coffee. And your situation while unique to you is not the one that we're talking about. And that's all. Again, I just want to,

I want to put that out there that there is, when we're talking about this stuff, there are people listening to this who really understand and they're like, well, he's like really belaboring the point. Know that this part of the conversation is not for you. I hate to belabor a point, but you're right. I definitely feel like I'm required to at times. I just think it's something that we need to be aware of,

or at least sort of mention. Yeah, and I think part of that is that, I don't know about you. I'm totally over social media. I don't use it. Yeah, I just use it for stuff. When there are things that are either misunderstood or things that are said inaccurately

about this project or about us, like I'm not gonna correct it. It's just gonna be there and you're gonna read, people may read something that's factually incorrect or totally wrong, take it as gospel and I can't do anything about that. It's out of my control. Also, I've been doing this a long time.

Can you believe they said this in 2009? Yeah. 15 years ago? A generation? Yeah. Oh, 15 years? Somebody who can drive a car now? That's how long ago that was said?

Yeah. I just think that it's, I think it's important to keep in mind that we're speaking broadly and in no way malicious to anyone at all. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Except for Robert from Michigan. Yeah, hey, hey Bob, you bitch.

Oh. You know, it's always interesting to me, I feel like every year when the Superbowl is fresh on my mind, cause it just happened yesterday, whenever the Superbowl happens, it's such an event that the entire media landscape shifts itself around the Superbowl to avoid it. Like, you know, I was talking earlier about, uh, true detective night countries, which is a show that normally comes on

on Sunday, but because the Superbowl was that day, they put it out on Saturday. It's like, oh, I didn't know that. So I watched that episode on Saturday, the most recent episode on Saturday instead of Sunday. And I feel like in general media either goes dark to avoid getting crushed by Super Bowl or they shift release a day in either direction to get out of the way on Sunday. And it's weird to be like as much as broadcast consumption declines as much as you know everything has become a You know, there isn't really appointment viewing anymore. It's all on demand that that sporting events still can draw that

That number of eyeballs and to the point where what we're up to like seven million dollars for a 30 second spot For commercials on the Super Bowl now, I talked about this a little bit on So All Right a couple, probably 20 episodes ago now, but looking at like most viewed broadcasts of all time and you consider network television to be on the decline. I'm not even on the decline. Like in its last fucking throws, right? Like it's like to say it's on the decline is a'm not even on the decline. Like in its last fucking throes, right? Like it's like, to say it's on the decline is a huge

understatement, right? But you don't expect anything that airs, nationally broadcast stuff like that to air, to have any kind of numbers like it did. And that includes sports. Like NBA is doing pretty well, but it still doesn't get the numbers it did even 20 years ago. And the fucking second most watched Super Bowl

of all time was last year's. What? Yeah, last year's was the second most watched Super Bowl of all time. So this year's will probably be the most watched one will assume. Do you know if that's just United States or is there not a lot of people in the audience?

I think it's total viewing. I looked it up on Wikipedia, it was ranked. So I think it's global audience. And I looked it up on Wikipedia. It was like ranked so I think it's global audience And I know there's a million different ways to watch it, right? But it still it's just like it goes to the point that there are still people that want to watch this stuff and it is still huge It's bigger than ever. I heard a fucking I listen to a lot of political talk radio, right? I was listening to a conversation this morning on the way and they had a poll going to Ben and it was like 52 48 It was the dumbest fucking poll and the dumbest question I've ever heard it was and they had a poll going. Big Steve Bannerpan. It was like 5248. It was the dumbest fucking poll

and the dumbest question I've ever heard. It was, and they were 100% serious, should we change President's Day so that it's always the Monday following the Super Bowl and tie those two events together because they seem to go together? Well, then people won't have to work remote because they're hungover anymore.

Because now the President's Day is next Monday And it should be today And then so people would get the vacation after the Super Bowl and they're like should there be a movement to do this You know like that's how big the Super Bowl listen I'm on board. I am too They should absolutely do it because The Super Bowl is already an American holiday pretty much as it is what American and football an official holiday I think already an American holiday pretty much as it is. What's more American than football? An official holiday. I think President's Day is where it is,

and I could be wrong. I believe it's like somewhere between Washington and Lincoln's birthdays. Somewhere right now, yeah. Like they kind of like combined the two into President's Day. We're still close enough, like a week off. Yeah.

Well, classically are only two presidents ever. I think that they should take the birthday of all presidents. Average it. Average it, and that should be presidents day Yeah, yeah, I agree never mind. I'm on board Changing presidents day. I don't oh tight to the Super Bowl. No way baby average all the birthday Oh, this is great

I want I know if you get if you get eight like if you get two terms does your do you a little bit more weight to your Oh, I hadn't considered it kind of twice? This is a really good idea. Yes. I'm going to say yes. I would think so. I think so too, all right. Yeah, if you get two terms, your birthday's in there two times. But here's the thing.

If you have two terms, but then you die early, you only get some of that. You're out of office fast. You know what I mean? So like a percentage? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of a weighted scale. So like we have to deal with like Kennedy, LBJ.

That's gonna be, there's gonna be some math there. It's tough, but hey, it's for smarter people than us to decide. I don't want to do this. I want someone to tell me. I want someone to tell Eric on social media what our president's day should be so I know. I'm gonna take that day off.

Yeah. That's my president's day. Oh, we should, that should be an ANMA holiday. Yeah. Let's do this. Our president's day. Not my president's day. That's what I'm gonna say next Monday.

I'm gonna come into work. Ha ha ha ha. Somebody, I want it. I want it so desperately to just be a weird ass Thursday in August. Like. Please, someone tell me what day it is. At ANMA podcast on Instagram and on Twitter

is where you can let us know or r slash anima podcast. You guys can work it all out yourselves. I really wanna know. Let us know in the guest book. Let us know, enter, give me anything.com. Let us know in the guest book. Oh, that's great. I put a counter on the website last week too.

We part of a web ring yet or no? No, I need to do that. But when I was making the counter, you got the option of how many digits to put in it. Yeah. So I put nine. Oh, that's true. We're going to a bunch of zeros.

That's pretty both of you when you see zero ANMA fan, I don't like that word, community member can, like if they have, like should we encourage ANMA community members to create their own websites and join our web ring? So I've been putting a lot of thought, despite how it looks, I put a lot of thought and a lot of work into the website. And...

Well, it looks like you put a lot of thought and work into it, it just doesn't look like you put a lot of ability into it. No, no, no, that's totally what it is. And some of the things I wanna do is I want to, so like on the project roadmap are banner ads, banner ad slots. So we put banner ads for Anmo Merch. And I figure we put some some face banner ads in there too.

And Stinky Dragon. And Stinky Dragon, why not? And I want to build a web ring as well. The web rings a little more difficult because you have to have everyone involved also have like links back and forth and have that like to make the whole ring work. So that may come at some point, but I have been putting thought into it. Right now I got, I just, I have a lot of things I need to do to make my job easier because I also added an archive for every episode now too

So I need to automate the archive. I need to automate the posting with the embed every Monday Because right now when I get up on Monday mornings, I have to update it like oh here's the correct new embed and all of this Stuff I don't want to do that. I want to automate it. Do you know what's happening here Gus is reinventing the internet And we're watching it happen in real time. I fucking love it. There was a, he's already realized the technology sucks and he's trying to vent. You know, Adam, Adam Conover from Adam ruins everything. Yeah. And he's got a podcast and I don't know when he talked about this. I saw this clip yesterday, actually.

He was talking about the early days of the internet when people did things because they loved it. We'll post it things because they loved it, right? Like nowadays the internet is like three or four companies that own everything and everything's monetized. Whereas in the early days you had sites like Gamefacts where people uploaded like huge ASCII text files with art that they made because they loved the game. They weren't making anything from it.

Or like TwoCows, where it's just like a website that just showed you free software you get on the internet. Or Drunk Gamers, one of the things that Bernie hated and we used to make fun of us about constantly was that Gus and I told him when we started, we don't wanna make money off this. There's no goal to make money here,

stop trying to make money, we just wanna have fun and entertain people for free and ourselves really. And that flew out the window with Rooster Teeth clearly, very quickly. But I think that there's a generation of people who don't remember that. Oh yeah. And I think that that's part of what has been driving my fun in working on the ANMA website. It's like rediscovering, even though I was there, I've forgotten a lot of it.

Until I sit down and I make this stupid webpage like, oh right, the internet used to be like, goofy. Everything wasn't monetized, and like, even the banner ads I'm gonna put on, it's more just to show what it looked like, and it's gonna be our stuff. I'm not gonna go sell banner ads for someone for two cents, CPM or whatever. What's so crazy about it too, is if you step back and look at it, the internet that you're describing, which is the internet that gave us careers, and the internet that I fell in love with the Internet that we've bonded over Right was a very brief Internet. So yeah, very briefly in one time. You're talking about six years

Maybe a little bit more Yeah, I give it seven give it ten maybe you think so I don't think I'd give it ten but that that period where it felt like that and where it still seemed possible before like everyone's fucking tide of money and influence just washed all that away. I remember even when we were making drunk gamers, you know, we were very grassy, right? Like us making it ourselves.

And I remember like looking at our competition, like who else is out there doing video game reviews? What are the other video game websites? And happy puppy. But even when I saw a website, a new website pop up, like one up, I was like, who are these people? Oh, it's Ziff Davis, or whoever.

It was the initial foray from Big Money coming in. It's like, oh, there's really no one pushing this independent voice. It's so funny you said Ziff Davis, too, because it was them. Yeah, it was absolutely for sure And that's just gone sadly like I mean I think everyone yeah It was sad to watch it die and see it happen in real time too I was thinking about the other day like there was a period in my life when I went to joystick every single day probably 10 times a day

I can't remember the last time that was a website Yeah, I've thought about them in a long time, but you can but it was like my it was like my spot Yeah, you know people had game spots some people went to Kotaku wherever I was a joystick guy and You just think about like all those homes that just disappeared one day You can find the spirit of that at an arc anything.com. I should try to see I should make a link for Old websites like that that still exist. I'm curious if any of them are still left archived. Like wasn't there like a, like the first webcam on the internet was like a pot of coffee at

MIT, right? Like some dude didn't want to get up and see if there was coffee in the coffee pots. We set up a webcam and put it on the internet. Like I wonder if that's still active. You know, wasn't there like an old Twinkie website, the Twinkie experiments or something, where like people, you know, like threw Twinkies off buildings and tried to see like how indestructible Twinkies were.

Are you talking about adding a link section to the ever can be anything? Yeah, I need to do.com website. But only early internet links. Oh, like old spark stuff. Like in Christian would do sticky feet project. Yeah, my sister project and all that. Yeah. Man, did you ever see any of those old?

Oh, yeah. Oh, I remember that stuff. That stuff was great. We're getting on towards time, so we need to talk about it. Can you believe it? Wow. We need to talk about a violet crown cafe that we went to today. It's over in Crestview. It's by Little Deli Pizza. Me and Jeff found it during our supplemental recording. Yeah, that's where we had our little pizza.

Yeah, we had Little Deli. Fantastic. They have a pizza there. It's got a name. I don't know what it's called, but it is just a pepperoni and cheese pizza with Roma tomatoes and chopped up roasted garlic. It is the best slice of pizza. It is fantastic. It is so fucking good. Yeah, it is really, really good. It's like, yeah, that place is great. So we found Violet Crown Cafe. Which used to be a drugstore

and then was an ice cream shop for a while. It was an ice cream shop and we were talking about it. Like, it was a cool ice cream shop that nobody went to and you could go in the back and there were some arcade machines and some stuff from the drugstore that used to be there that you can look at. Yeah, like a little mini museum kind of. it was yeah, this place is different. They gutted the fuck out of it

It's nice now. It is yeah, it is a little swanky very of that neighborhood. Yeah Trying to make something happen in like that little Spot it is such a great little shopping center there. There's a Fresh plus over there Used to be in Orleans. Yeah, which is a local grocery store for both of them are actually I believe we talked about the fresh plus in Hyde Park That has the mural of So one of their sister stores is over there that coffee shop little deli Which is just the fucking best and then like a barber shop and a mechanic shop acting school and acting school Spot I looked at a I went to an open house down the street from there an acting school, an acting school. Yeah. It's a cool little spot.

I looked at a, I went to an open house down the street from there. Oh yeah? A couple of years ago before the pandemic. Beautiful, beautiful house. Pre-pandemic, yeah. Okay. But they, yeah, at pre-pandemic price, I think the asking price on that house is like $1.2 million.

So it probably was $2.4 during the pandemic. Right. Beautiful house. I loved it. I was like, man, but that is, that is a fucking expensive house. That's crazy. So we all got our coffee that we usually get I got I got the drip Gus got the americano Jeff got the cold brew and then Jeff also got a taco and Gus got a

Kerlachi normally it's kalachi, but they spelled it K. E. R. Is it like a brand probably like curling Kalachi's or something imagine or like maybe from Ker curvil or something. What was your taco? Was just a bacon egg and cheese taco, and then what was your curl? Spinach and feta cheese. My taco is pretty dog shit. Yeah. Yeah It was very medium But I've seen a video on the internet where they make a breakfast taco and they really loved it They looked lovely. They just weren't breakfast my car. My car was pretty good. Uh good What did you guys get a coffee the coffee? I thought I hated it for at first, uh-huh, but then the more I kept drinking it the more I liked it. I don't think I've ever had that experience before

I think you've never learned to like something in your life. That's I would agree. You've never had that experience. We talked about this earlier I think I'm gonna end up settling at it like a 7.5 on it It's a it's a solid cup of coffee that I I would have rated much lower when I first started drinking it 7.8 Okay. Yeah, I mean this is probably like a 7 7 1 1 2 1 This is it's a good cup of coffee It's a little more chocolatey than I like just for what they have on but they had a wide variety of like beans You could buy there and like a bunch of other stuff and just like this little section that was like is a cute little shop Yeah, you can buy sardines there. Yeah could buy there and like a bunch of other stuff. And just like this little section that was like, is a cute little shop.

You could buy sardines there. Yeah. Yeah, tin fish stuff is like back and I don't know why. Apparently it's hotter than ever. Yeah, I've seen people like on TikTok and stuff where they're like way into like eating fish out of tins. Broadcast TV and fish tunes. The packaging was very fancy.

So I could tell that it's very in vogue. The only metal I want with my fish is the mercury inside of it. That's not talking about me. Give me the micro plastics only. I watched Eric. Can I tell you a quick little story? Yeah. Eric came over to Super Bowl last night and Emily's one of her best friends from out of town is in, is visiting and so she's staying with us.

And I watched Eric introduce himself to her. It was so funny. It was so funny. So I went over. introduce himself to her. It was so funny. It was so funny. So I went over, she came over to me, we were like in the kitchen and I grabbed this jalapeno popper that I guess she had made. And I was like, I hadn't met her and I'm like, oh hi, I had it in my right hand.

And I went, oh hi, I'm Eric. And then she's like, oh, Haley. And then we went to shake hands, but I only had my left hand. So I just kind of like reached and twisted. So it's like, you know, you can shake hands with it. But then she took it and went, mwah. And it was like, she did it like,

she did it like, and said, oh, Shantae. Oh my God. Something about the way you presented your hand to her. It was so fucking, I was howling. That was so funny. Totally took me off guard. Had never met her before. And I went, that's great.

That's hilarious. What a great in the moment reaction. It was just such a like, I'm eating the thing you made with my regular hand. I'm not going to get your hand greasy. Oh, this is weird. I love it. It was very funny. One thing that I had wanted to mention this episode that I forgot about until right now is I saw that there's going to be a 25th

anniversary release of the Phantom Menace. Oh yeah. And I think the anniversary nobody wants to remember. We should go camp out for tickets again at the theater. I'll do I think we should go down to the Metropolitan, revisit the spot where we camped 25 years ago and camp out. I guarantee it's going to be packed. We're going to need to show up early today's early to make sure that we get tickets that were that were in line. Psycho are we going to record from the end of Venice line? We should absolutely do it. So from the Phantom, this line, I need to find. I think it's coming out in May. I don't know what tickets are going on sale, but can we get a PS two and be she to blame again?

I think it's coming out in May. I don't know what tickets are going on sale Can we get a ps2 and be she do blade again? There's a ps1 Who wasn't out yet? It's gonna be a bunch of 17 year olds working in this way. He's going what the fuck are these old guys doing? Should we call the cops oh, we absolutely would get run off Guarantee it's gonna happen dude fucking crazy. Yeah, we absolutely would get run off for trespassing this time. I guarantee it's gonna happen. Dude, fucking crazy. Yeah, let's make it happen. So I think Violet Crown Cafe is maybe not

the most memorable place we've ever been. We also got run out because it was so fucking cold outside with that wind, but I don't think it should discourage you if you're in the area to check it out. I know it's charming. Yeah, it's just sort of like In the in the grand scheme of this podcast pretty right down the middle. Yeah. Yeah, and I plus it's got little deli right there Right, so like I think little deli is a reason to make the trick there

I don't know if you're already there you may as well pick up coffee. It's also it's a wine bar So it's open pretty late and I Think the only other place that we went to that was like coffee and a wine bar closed. So, uh, So, uh, Nash and Bevy. Oh yeah. That's like, that's like a bar. Yeah. Coffee. There was that. What was the place we went to like south of the river that was a, um, I read being closed. Yeah. They closed. So now this one is our wine spot also.

What's that? I guess. Red wine and coffee. Oh, God, that made my whole fucking, it made like my butt hole tight. That sounded, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh. Hey, let's get into some anarchy questions. You can send us anarchy questions at ANMA Podcast on Twitter and on Instagram, or r slash ANMA Podcast is the subreddit.

We do not run. Jeff mentioned he went to the University of South Carolina for a small time. What yeah, what? Yeah Deep do you know you know about this? I don't know about this. Yeah the United States Army used to the the United States Army had a contract with the University of South Carolina's The United States Army had a contract with the University of South Carolina's photojournalism school. And so there was a special program in the military

where when you would become a journalist, that's the beginning of your education. There was another course you could take that was like advanced, I don't remember what it was called, but it was like advanced journalism that you could get, if you were really good, you could get lucky, they would send you to the school for like a month. And then if you were really good, there was get lucky. They would send you to the school for like a month. And then if you were really good,

there was this thing called the Advanced Photojournalism course where they basically put you in for like a semester and a half at the University of South Carolina and they ran you through the master's program and like very briefly. Like the, not the whole thing clearly, but the major points with their instructors.

And so- I didn't realize that's what it was. I was very successful in the Army as a young photographer. I was lucky enough that I did well. And I, I don't know, I impressed the right people. And so when I was 20, I was selected to skip the intermediate school and go straight to that advanced school.

And they enrolled me in the University of South Carolina for like four months or something. And so I went and I lived on campus in a dorm. And yeah, yeah. And I was a student there for like four months. I ended up having to leave early because I got deployed to Kuwait. So I didn't get to finish it. I did all this coursework and I got the grade and everything.

I got the certificate. But I had to leave early so I had to abbreviate all my work and finish early because I had to go get deployed to Kuwait. But... We're not gonna be in class next week, we're gonna go to war. We're gonna fight it on.

But I got to do that at 20. I was the youngest person in the history of the army to get to do it. I was one of the only people that ever got to skip the intermediate school and two more classes after mine cause they had like run through like two cycles a year or whatever, they ended it. And so I was the third to last class to ever go through it.

Yeah, so I got really, really, really lucky. This question was from Prowler Caboose and they said, do you have any memories of, that's their home city and they're wondering if you have any memories. I married my first wife there. Oh. But, on lunch. Was that in Columbia? Yeah. That's their home city and they're wondering if you married my first wife there. Oh But

Was that cool is that in Columbia? Yeah, we would Columbia together Yeah, we did we did as a matter of fact we hung out with a friend of mine from that time a punk rock kid that I became friends with Yeah, that's true. Do we need to go to Columbia? For I haven't been there in a long time, but I'd love to. Five points is the area, right? We were there 19 years ago, maybe? Yeah. That was the time we got on the plane and we thought we were going to crash when we left because it was black shit was coming out of the wing. Yeah.

Oh my God. It was bubbling. That was a scary flight. Whoa. I had no idea about any of that. I didn't know you went to like school. Yeah. He was the 90s armies answer to the Ansel Adams. I'll like school. Yeah, he was a he was the army the 90s armies answer to Ansel Adams

I'll take that yeah, okay. Yeah, I wanted to be Mary Ellen Mark not in slathoms, but I'll take it Kelvin H. I just want to give a shout out tweeted at us had an overnight work trip In Austin and went for some NFTs and he ended up at Casino El Camino. Oh, that's nice quality. Got the, what looks like maybe a burger and some wings. And then also went to Veracruz and had some coffee there also. So if you, you come through, check out the NFTs. Like we do these recommendations and hopefully people like it.

I should compile NFTs on the website too. Yeah, we should make an NFT map. Yeah, we should make an NFT map. Yeah, Gus should make an NFT map. Oh my God. Speaking of Veracruz, you guys probably already know this, I'm sure, but they have a brick and mortar in Mueller now? Yeah, I've been there.

Have you been there? It's good. I hit one more go, we should go. It's fine, it's weird. I ordered, my friend Jason was in town. We talked about this like the last time we had our break, a supplemental break. And we went there before I took him back to the airport. I'm like, oh, this will be cool. We'll get breakfast tacos, get a cup of coffee, chill here for a little bit, and then I'll

take you to the airport. Yeah. Dude, I don't know what the fuck's up with that place. It was just like, hey, we wanna get like some tacos to go. And it was like, they were confused. There's a big long bar, there's a bunch of seating to like sit down and eat. And it's like, oh, I was under the impression

that I was gonna get some breakfast tacos. And it's easy. And we had to like walk over to like the counter that's at the bar that the person at the front told us to go to, but no one was there. Like no one was manning it. It was just all just like, this isn't set up for what I need this to be, which is just a window

where tacos come out of it and then I eat them. Yeah, it's definitely a sit down place. It is. They're not geared at all for- Which would be confusing for fans where they only have those windows everywhere else. You can, I think the best way to do that is to just make the order online and then just pick it up. Just because, yeah, trying to get something to go there is a hassle.

I'm over QR codes for menus. I'm over having to order online first. I get it. It makes it easy and I can put it in and then I can go pick it up. It is such a deterrent for me to do that. It's one step too many. Let me go to the place and just order the thing. That's how I wanna live my life

because I don't wanna talk to someone and I wanna make sure it's customized exactly how I want. I don't wanna be like, did he hear that? Yeah. Are they gonna hear it right? Completely understand that I'm on the wrong side of this one. It is just a step too far for me in a direction where I go. There have been so many times where I start putting in the order online

and then I get to the checkout part and I go, yeah, I'm not going to never mind. Is there a kaboomer? I think seeing the money right there and I don't have to spend it gives me the chance to go. You're out. I don't need this. You know, Emily did a thing last year when she felt like she was buying too much shit online. And so for a month, I think it was actually last February,

for a month, anything she caught herself buying, she just put it in an Amazon wish list and saved it. And then at the end of the month, she went back and looked at everything She didn't buy that she wanted to buy and she was like I'll buy whatever I still want and she almost bought none of it Oh, like almost all of us just like didn't want that don't need that that was a dumb idea Don't care, you know found found that didn't need to buy it anyway. And yeah, it was wild I think even having like a 24-hour cooldown would be yeah, absolutely

It's just preventing me from getting like tortoise, like and I want a tortoise. I want one so bad. Or tenuous please. Make it happen. Great man. Well, I think that'll do us for Anma. Good episode, fun episode.

We're back, baby. Seven more episodes after this one. Will we have Big Mike Pertle on? He doesn't drink coffee. Sounds like it's time for a burger. We must meet his demands if we're gonna get it. Such a diva. I've heard a lot.

I love it. I can't wait. Have him send his rider over and we'll get to work on that. I definitely want, Mike has been here for so long. I want him to be on this show. I wanna go get a burger with him. It's just gonna be fun. Well, he is like the official and the fact checker.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we were doing the break show in like the afternoon. So he's like, listen to the episode today. All right, here's where you guys need to go. Here's where you got wrong. And he just go, thanks Mike. It's great. He's like, it was actually on the left side of the street.

You're completely like. It's so specific. It rocks. But he's right. He's right. Of course. That's why we have to get him on this show. People are like, oh, you gotta have Gavin back on.

No way, baby, we want Big Mike hurdle. Yeah. So you can follow us at ANVA Podcasts on Instagram and on Twitter. You can go to r slash ANVA Podcasts to subreddit. Let us know if you come to Austin, check out NFTs, send us some pictures, stuff like that. Like that's been my favorite part of the show

is people going, I had like a two day trip to Austin and I checked out these six places, then I hated this one, but the other five were great. It's like that kind of, I love that. I think it's fantastic. No that no way baby we got good suggestions but any any wise words any thoughts for the people at home. Go go to anarchy me anything calm check out my my my hard

work. They get harder not smarter. Well let us know what the presidential average is and that will be our new president's day. Oh please I forgot I'm excited again.