ANMA - Convention Memories

Episode Date: June 27, 2022

Good Morning, Gus. This week is a little different: to be extra safe, we decided to do a remote recording for this episode but hopefully you still like it even without the audio texture. We get into a lot of convention talk, prostitutes at a steakhouse bar, Gus emailing Bungie at 15, a Japanese Conversation Club, and lamenting lost friendships. Do us a favor and tell a friend about ANMA. They can take a guess at the name but mostly check out the show. Remember that person you used to watch RvB with? Tweet them a link. This episode is sponsored by Fum (http://www.breathefum.com/ANMA) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm not recording this video. That literally might be like the least flattering I've ever seen you. That is rough. You look like Tommy Lee Jones has two faces. You know, thank you. That's how I feel. Wow. All right. Let's go. Okay, this is episode two. Do you need thank you. That's how I feel. Wow, all right.

Okay, this is episode two. Do you need a clap or anything? No, no. No, because we're not showing this video to anyone. Yeah, exactly. No, well, Master Track and the remote recordings. No, we got Craig is already getting this stuff, so we're already good.

So this is episode eight. Okay. So we're having to do this episode remotely because a couple days ago, I ran into someone who turns out they were positive for COVID. I don't feel any symptoms that I'm still testing negative, but out of an abundance of caution, I don't wanna get my friends sick

and I don't wanna get Jeff or Eric sick either. So we thought, let's go ahead and record this episode remotely just to be safe and make sure that we're doing all the right things here. Like I said, still negative, still fine. Thank you for the abundance of caution, coworker, Gus. I've been, I've been trying to outrun COVID for over two years now. If I finally get it now, I'm going to be, I'm going to be legitimately pissed off, dude.

We just went through that in my family. My girlfriend avoided it this entire time as well, and then she got it last week. And so I just, just came out of quarantine. Also, it didn't get in time. And someone is going to be the last person in the world to get COVID. Yeah. Well, I mean, amongst the current crop of people

that are alive. Yes. Yeah, because we keep adding bodies on the pile. Yeah. Yeah. So someone will be the last person to get COVID who was alive when the pandemic started. And like went through the entire thing.

And I'm in the running. I don't want to say that it's going to be me. But I'm all I'm saying is I'm putting genuine effort. I'm putting the work like it was like I'm training for the Olympics here. So I didn't finish a story last time we talked. And I thought about it after we wrapped up. I was like, oh man, I meant to go back and give a little more detail on something. So before we even get into anything else, I want to circle back and close the loop on that. We talked about how using the internet, our first experiences with the internet

and how I hated the web. And I thought it was stupid. And I retreated back to the Vax Lab, which was like a mainframe system. I used to email a lot of people back then. Just because it was a weird thing to me that you could reach out to people who did stuff, like how people email us or email contacted

like one and no about Red vs. Blue and you could reach out to people who make stuff that you enjoy. So I would send, I was a board 15 year old and I would email anybody I could think of. And of course, standard day was still new. A lot of people had email addresses yet. And I remember in the Vax Lab,

if you wanted to email someone at the university, you could just type their email address, but you had to specify what server they were checking their email on. Are you serious? Yeah, so it's like, if you were emailing me at the Vax Lab, you would email my email address at vaxlabserver.swt.edu,

because it was Southwest Texas. Like you couldn't just do at SWT, it was like specific to the Vaxlabserver.swt.edu because it was Southwest Texas. You couldn't just do at SWT. It was specific to the Vaxlab. Anyway, whatever I wanted to email someone who wasn't at the university, you would have to type like I-N percent sign quotes and then their email address and quotes to specify to the server that it was an internet email address and that it was leaving the local network and going out to the internet at large. One of the first people I emailed was Bungie, because I had found a bug in marathon two,

and I wasn't sure if it was me who was messing something up or if it was the game that was messed up. So I emailed like a customer support contact, email address at Bungie, and I remember I got a reply from a dude named Matt, and it was like explaining that it was actually a bug in the game that I had found. It wasn't me and suggested some walk around and stuff.

And I was like, wow, that's really cool. I'm like a 15 year old kid. It's like my favorite video game at the time. I emailed a developer. They emailed me back. It's like one of the first email, it's the first email I remember specifically because it was such a big deal to me.

And then like 25 years later, I was at a meeting here in Austin at a local game developer called Certain Affinity and a meeting with a bunch of people and then like some dude named Matt walks in and he's like, yeah, I used to work at Bungie. I was like, Matt Soel? He goes, yeah. I was like, you emailed me 25 years ago.

I emailed you a bug in Marathon 2 and you replied to it. He's like, oh, yeah, I used to handle the email back then, I guess. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I'm sure you have no memory of it. But that was such a pivotal moment in my life. Being able to reach out to someone on the internet and get feedback and reply. I was like, you made me interested. The reason I really got into making stuff on the internet was because you replied to an email I sent when I was like, you made me interested. Like the reason I really got into making stuff on the internet was because you replied to an email I sent when I was 15.

Wow. That's really, really wild. Yeah. It's like out of everyone in the world. Like I just so happened to walk into a meeting and he was there. Was he completely creeped out by you in that moment? Listen, that's regardless of any story I tell. If you walk into a room with me, that's the experience you're gonna have. That's like, it's so funny how that stuff happens. Like, we have an employee at Rusteath named Steffi, who is like the social media manager of Achievement Hunter,

and she's worked with us for years, and I've known her for years, and we were having a conversation and she referenced meeting me at an event before we worked together. And I was like, oh, did we meet? And then she showed me a series of photos of all the times we had met at like the Alamo Draft House

showings or RTX's. I had met her like five times and I had no memory of it. You know, she was a kid at that point. And now here she's been working for us for like five years and it's so weird how small the world can be. Yeah. And if you remember, we met, you and I met Adam Ellis at Pax East.

He showed up to a booth one time years ago with hot sauce and like he's like, hey, I'm never gonna be my friend eat hot sauce. And he recorded it. I was like, oh yeah, I totally remember that. Adam Ellis is a guy who worked at Rich Teeth for a long time, still in the area. Assam, not too long ago, really great dude.

But yeah, we met him. He had like, I don't know, like millions gov Elb hot sauce and I tried it on a toothpick on a day or I think it was probably filmed actually. And then I remember it standing out because it was super, super hot. And he's a distinctive dude because he's like six, three and has a giant beard and you see him once

and you'll never forget him. But. He's taller than six, three. He's bigger. Yeah. He just like stands out. He's like a mountain of a man. So I always remembered that instance, hey, because the hot sauce was super hot

and then because he's, you know, you kind of physically intimidating. And then, and he was cool. And then, and then I was really into hot sauce at the time. So I was like really appreciative that someone would share in that love with me. And then I go to a best buy in South Park, Meta, just to pick up something for work one day

and he checked me out. And I'm like, but you, but you were in Boston and he's like, oh yeah, I moved down here and then like a month later he worked for us. Yeah, I think I filmed that video of you, Tasty. I think I still have that video on my phone of you like 12 years ago eating hot sausage Boston. Hahaha.

That was the year that I almost, that we got in trouble for the beer, right? On stage. Oh, that was that year, wasn't it? How did that go down? So we were doing a panel, a red versus blue panel at Paxeest in Boston. And you know, at the end of the panel, we showed some videos and you know, typical panel stuff that we would do. And someone at the end, we were doing Q&A and someone came up to the mic and they're like, hey, I got a, you know, a 12 pack of beer. I just wanted to give you guys. So like, oh, yeah, cool. So like, you walked up to the stage and, you know, handed it to us. I think I took it. He handed it to one of us. I think it was to me. And I took it and I put it on our, you know, our table who were doing the panel and I opened it up. And I think I drank a beer. You

probably drank a beer, Jeff. And panel wrapped up. We went back to our booth. And by actually, by the time I think we had to split up, some of back to our booth, and by actually, by the time, I think we had to split up. Some of us were taking a break to go eat, and I had to get back to the booth. So like, oh wait, no, yeah, I had to get back to the booth. You took the beer, but I think like, for some reason, you were gonna eat or something,

you couldn't take it, then you ended up like tossing it. You threw it away. I had to go back to the booth without the beer. I show up at the booth, and there's like a police officer, but not like in a police uniform, like a button up shirt and, you know, like the badge on his belt and a gun and stuff. Yeah. And he's like, hey, I need a talk to you. It's like, oh, okay. He's like, I heard you were doing a panel up in the room and you were giving beer out to minors in the audience. And I was like, nope. It was definitely not doing that. He's like,

yeah, we had people report that you were giving beer to minors. the audience. I was like, nope, was definitely not doing that. He's like, yeah, we had people report that you were giving beer to minors. That's a criminal offense. Like, nope, that definitely did not happen. That was, like someone gave me a 12 pack of beer and I drank it, which I can do. He's like, okay, you better not be giving out beer to anybody. I'm like, I didn't give beer to anybody. I don't know what the fuck you're, you're hassling me for. Yeah, that was it. He was really giving me a hard time, like giving me the scare tactic. He was going to arrest me for giving beer to my, I was like, I never done that. So did it, was it because we threw it in the trash and somebody dug it out or something? I don't know.

At that point, I mean, that's the trash. Yeah. We didn't give it to anybody. He's someone's going through the trash, like, to find whatever the fuck they want in there. Were we next to each other like booth neighbors? Yeah, I remember this vaguely because I remember it being the weirdest thing like, because everyone just brought you guys alcohol.

Like that was like a thing. Yeah. Like it conventions. Everyone just brought you like handles of stuff like six packs or whatever. And then this happened and it was like, what the fuck, like what is happening right now? It was really bizarre, super bizarre.

I always assumed that everybody brought people booze. What did they do? What did kids bring mega 64? We had a couple of people who would bring like baked goods, but these are like people that we know. Like these were like fans that were like friends and not just like random people. Like, Hey, I spiked this cookie or fucked. Like a lot of that stuff, a lot of like candy.

I mean, look at we're little garbage Gremlin people. Like it was like a lot of candy and like a lot of like chips, you know, snacks and drinks and like wack, like wacky drinks and snacks. Like that was kind of like the thing. You know, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

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I remember that. That's one of the things that I looked back fondly on. It was a ton of fucking work, and I hated it and I was miserable at the time, but going to all of those events and meeting all of those people, and especially now after having been, you know, everything been shut down for the past two years

and kind of not being able to do stuff like that. It's weird to look back so nostalgically on it when it's a lot of work, you know, showing up early, working the entire day, leaving late, packing everything up, setting everything up, tearing everything down, shipping it. There's like so much stress that goes into that.

I think as an attendee at an event, you know, you know there's a lot of work that goes into it, but I don't think you realize the scope of the amount of work that goes into setting that stuff up and doing all that and what long days they are. And that's just running a booth and doing the work, right? Like on top of that is another layer of which is the performative aspect of it.

Like especially you and I together, anytime somebody came up to a Ruestra teeth booth and wanted to buy a Red versus Blue Dv or a T-shirt or whatever, you and I would try to give them a show. We would try to entertain them and try to give them a good and positive experience so that they left love and rooster teeth. And you do that a couple hundred times a day for 10 hours and that's a special kind of like mental and emotional tired at the end of it too.

Yeah, and I think the reason we do that is we realized that, we realized very quickly early on that no matter how tired you are and how long the day has been, if someone comes up to you to see you, it's their one interaction. No matter how many people you've met in that day, no matter how many dozens or hundreds of people you've seen, you may be tired,

but to them, it's the one interaction they're gonna have. And if you're low energy, if you're a dick, or you're an asshole, that's the impression they're going to leave with. They don't, there's no like, oh, that person has been in that booth for six hours, and they have needed to pee for the last four, and they haven't had a chance to. Yeah. And it's probably the only time they're ever going to meet you in their entire life. So this is the only chance you have to leave a memory, a positive impression on them, you

know? I remember one time one year, a positive impression on them, you know. I remember one time one year we were doing Sandigo Comic Con. And I don't know why we had this brilliant idea. We only sent two people to Sandigo Comic Con. It was me and Jason. And we were in the booth alone. So we had to coordinate bathroom breaks and food breaks because it's like, if what we both couldn't leave, one of us had to be in the booth at all times.

And that was, and send you a comment cut already a long event. If you count preview night, that's what, like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, yeah, this five days of event where you're just like, God, I mean, that was, I remember being so miserable and tired because there was no break.

It was just not stop work. It was, it was a joy to be able to get five minutes off to run to the bathroom to go pee. And then you're done and you're exhausted and you just want to go eat dinner and the only place that'll see you is Dix last resort. Yep.

And then you gotta hear some lame comedians make Batman jokes all night while they insult you. But it's okay because you get plenty of rest after the two or three parties you go to a night to go network and have like, oh, it's not my having a good time in the NFL. I remember one of those years at San Diego Comic Con, Jeff, you and I were, it was like,

we had been working in the booth and it was our lunch break and we were like, oh, we gotta go get something to eat. Like, I wore sick of the Food and the Comedy Center. Let's walk across the street and mind you, there's like a hundred thousand people there. So, I get what's walking across the street to go eat. And we're like 100,000 people there. So people who walk across the street to go eat. And we're like, where the fuck are we gonna eat that we'll be able to get some food quickly?

And we're walking and there's like that, right across the street, there's like a train track that right across that's like where all the food is. And there's like a nobu right there. And we walk out past the nobu and we look in through the window and it's like totally empty. And all of the waiters are just standing at the window, looking at theongs of people walking by because when you're at the event like no one's gonna go spend 300 bucks on sushi and it was like oh that's really weird to think that there's a hundred thousand people here and nobody's going into this restaurant right there you can eat very quickly if you if you want to spend a ton of money. And that's how we ate for every Comic Con after that pretty much. We found that steakhouse.

There was, yeah. What was the deal? I remember we would go to that steakhouse every year religiously because the first time we went, there was some sort of an issue with some prostitutes or something at the bar. Do you remember? And it was, I can't quite remember,

but it was really funny and we were transfixed. I think they were like, yeah, they were a little tipsy at the bar and I think they got rolled out by the steakhouse while the whole was sitting in there. Yeah, I don't remember very well. I do remember that, but I don't remember very much about it. I wish we had started this podcast 10 years ago.

Yeah, no kidding. Before we forgot all this shit. It's just so much that happens. And we have been forgetting a bunch like at the end of the last episode, you know, we told Eric a bunch of things, they're like, Oh, we forgot to talk about that. We meant to talk about this. Even me like, I was like, Oh, I stopped my story halfway through talking about it in the last episode, but luckily Eric's been keeping notes about stuff that we want to we want to circle back to. When I think about Comic Con, I think about

you and I driving around an erented Lincoln navigator listening to hip hop. No, what? That's Comic Con to me. The needs at Comic Con are weird. We needed a big vehicle to halt shit around. And because it's Comic Con, before this, before Uber, right? Like, so 10 people come in into town.

All the rental cars are gone. So it's like, if you need a big vehicle, the only vehicle you get is like, an escalator, a Lincoln navigator or something. So it's like, if you need a big vehicle, the only vehicle you get is like an escalator, a Lincoln navigator or something. So it's like, inevitably, it's like, that's the vehicle we need, because we need to move a bunch of shit around,

so that's what we end up renting. We'll send up driving around San Diego, blasting hip hop after hours driving around in a Lincoln navigator, or a Cadillac escalator, whatever it was that we had. I remember, because I looked at, I was like, I'm buying a Lincoln navigator after this. And that's the real issue,

because I couldn't afford one. But it was 100%. We got an escalator one year, but we, I was like, I'm buying only a navigator after this. And I realized, we could be, I couldn't afford one. But it was 100%. We got an escalator one year, but we, it was a, I think we did a navigator three years in an escalator one year. Yeah. It's just weird when you get that many people into a town for an event, how everything

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today, see you in austin july 1st 2nd, what would you do if you had the freedom to be anyone or to go anywhere without limitations? Start your journey and experience for yourself the feeling of total freedom when you game with Alienware. Alienware is your portal to new worlds where limits don't exist and the only rules are the ones you decide to make. Defy boundaries and start gaming now at Alienware.com. Next-gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. I remember we went to, we went to the one of the first comic, we started going to Comic Con in 2004. Yeah. I think it was the last year that they took, that was the first year they took up the entire convention center. If I remember right, and that's the only reason we were able to get in in 2004 was because we had been waitlisted for a booth, then they expanded to the entire convention center floor.

So they had a little more space, so we were able to get a booth because of it. That was when you, in that year, you had to walk into the convention center, they walk all the way to the back and the left. And that's where our booth was before they moved us over next to make a 64, where we ended up for many years. And that year we went, I remember you and I had a little bit of time. And it was actually, so this wasn't O4, I think you and I were there in O5 and YouTube was a brand new thing. And they remember they had like a mixer.

They're like, Hey, YouTube creators, you can come to the, I think it was the Marriott bar. Like it was whatever that hotel was right next to the convention center. Okay. And you and I, Jeff, we were like, all right, I mean, we make videos like we we're not really a big YouTube channel or anything, let's go see what this is all about. Do you remember this? And we walked over to that of that. I think so. I'm wondering if it's, I wanna hear it,

so I can hear if it's what I think it is. Yeah, and it was weird because YouTube was such a small thing then that there was no like tickets or checking in or anything, it was just like every YouTube channel creator was at the bar at the Marriott, and we were just sitting there like, it was just like every YouTube channel creator was at the bar at the Marriott. And we were just sitting there like, it's weird that we recognize all of these people and like no one's bothering them. It would be like, if every top YouTube creator was sitting at a bar at San Diego Comic Con and no one was bothering them. I remember you and I sitting at the bar

and being amazed that the hot for words lady was there and no one was talking to her. And she was so famous to me. Like in my head, like, because it was like, it was one of the first big breakout YouTube things. And I was like, why is nobody talking to that lady? She's on the internet.

Yeah, and it's like, now it's a totally different world. Like I can't imagine that ever going down. Or even going to that. And I think the biggest YouTube channel the time was like a million subscribers, right? Like it was still relatively small potatoes. It wasn't like the huge behemoth that it is now. I remember at that point, Oprah had 80,000 subscribers

and we had like 60 and I was just gunning for Oprah. All of them, yeah. Yeah, Pete Oprah was a big deal for me. I wonder, I wonder who was, I wish we could get a snapshot and see who was at that event as a YouTube creator and where those people all are now. I wonder if any of them are still creating, outside of our dumbasses. I wonder if any of them are still creating content online. Yeah, I mean, that was over 15 years ago now. Yeah.

I want to say that was 05. I'm pretty sure it was 05. But I don't know if you remember that first year we went in 04. It was like so last minute that by the time we tried to book a hotel, there were no hotels left. I think, you know, Comic Con is typically in July know, Comic-Con is typically in July, San Diego Comic-Con is typically in July and I think we got approved in June. So we had to like organize getting all our stuff there and we had to get a hotel room. And we, I don't remember what the name of the hotel

we stayed at was, but it was like 20 miles away from the convention center. And we had to drive for like an hour to get there. Do you remember that? It was like, it was like, it was like on a ranch or something, it was like, it was like on a ranch or something. It was like in the middle of fucking nowhere. And it's like everyone had to get in the car

at the start of the day. Regardless of whether you were working or not, because we had one car, everyone had to get in it, drive down the committee center, you would stay there all day, do everything, and then everyone would drive back up together at the end of the night. Because again, no Uber or any way to get around, it was like, you're just fucking stuck there all day.

Speaking of being stuck at San Diego Comic Con all day, do you remember that kid that we ended up kind of adopting? I can't remember his name now, Eric, you'll love this. It was, I think it might have been that year. It was early early on in Comic Con, year one or two. Some kids showed up early in the day, it was a RVB fan. And by kid, I mean like 10. 10. That's what I would have guessed. And we were

cool, don't we're like, Hey, what's up, buddy? He didn't have any money or anything, but we like signed some stuff for him, gave him some stickers or something. And then he just kind of sometimes people will like, they'll come up and they'll have an interaction with you and then they'll just kind of back off and just watch the booth for a while, you know. And he kind of did that thing. And he was kind of in the periphery, and then we would just keep interacting with him a little bit here and there,

and then realize that he'd been around for like an hour. I mean, most of you remember him like, where are your parents? Like, do you have anywhere to be? Are you gonna check anything else out? And he was like, now my dad just dropped me off this morning. He's not picking me up till six tonight. I got nothing else to do,

so I'm just gonna stand here all day. And that's what he did. Yeah, he did. Can you imagine just dropping a kid off? I mean, I guess 2004 was a different time, but it doesn't feel that different to me. Not that different. Yeah, it doesn't feel that different to me.

Where you just like throw your kid at a convention center that has 120,000 people in it and say, I'll be back in like nine hours. Ha, ha, ha ha ha. I do often wonder like what the rest of that story was. Like, where is that kid now? You know, who was this, the parents that just left him there for nine hours?

Well, I do remember his dad eventually came and got him. Yeah. And I think we met his dad, but yeah, it was wild, dude. I can't, like, I can't, I can't imagine doing that with my 17 year old daughter. A little. We used to go to, it's comic on the San Diego thing. So it was always local, but in like probably like pre 2003, because that's like when it really started getting big, we used to just go down there when we were like teenagers and

say that we were like 12 and get like the child's pass. And they'll be like, you're not, no. Can let me see some ID and you go, how many ID I'm 12 and they go, fine. And then so you pass. Yeah, so you pass for like 20 bucks. You could get like a three day pass for like 35, or a four day pass for like 35 bucks.

It was super cheap to go to Comic Con back then. So when you're talking about like dropping a kid off in like, oh, four, that's right at like that crest of this is becoming a monolith of a convention where his dad is probably from like Claremont and just went, yeah, it's fucking Comic-Con. Just drop the kid off who cares, no one's there. And then that's like the area where you went,

I should have done that. I should not have done it. Yeah. Okay, that gives a lot more context to it. It absolutely does, thank you done that. I should not have done that. Wow. Yeah. Okay, that gives a lot more context to it. Yes, it absolutely does. Thank you. Also, you should not drop a 10 year old off at a convention either way.

It doesn't matter if there's only 10,000 people. That's a lot of people. Yeah. We met a lot of people at San Diego Comic Con over the years. I struggled to remember the first time we met, make a 64, but I must have been out of packs if I had to guess. I kind of imagined it was San Diego Comic-Con because I think I feel like we knew each other

by the time that we moved our booths next to them. Yeah, I remember requesting our booths being next to each other at Comic-Con. And so we must have met at packs. It had to be packs, like packs, what do they call it? Is it packs prime? I don't know what they call regular packs now.

I think they call it packs west now. Okay, it had to be that right? I like it had to be just a regular packs and they put us next to each other because they went, well, let's here's 10 dipshits, just two boots, whatever. Yeah. And from there, it was like man off to the races. It was just how much can we be near each other all the time? Constantly. I remember. I don't know if you guys don't remember this, going to, it was one packs, going to like a, kind of like a dive bar, a teaky bar that was in, kind of, in Seattle, just kind of like off the beaten path and just drinking, having so many, Bernie was there,

having so much to drink. And there was a bathroom with no door. And there was just a guy, like I remember taking a piss and a guy going, hey man, how you doing? And it's like, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy right now. This is bad. But like getting like absolutely hammered with you guys at that place.

And I remember going like, oh, I think I really like these guys. I got sick just listening to you tell that story. Like I feel bad now. I remember that place. It was that if I remember right there was an arcade next door. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A whole thing or something. Yeah. It's on second street. I don't remember what it's called, but it's on second street in that little bar area. Like they're a little like six street area. Yeah. I remember that night. I remember somebody passing out on the table, I can't remember who it was.

But I also remember earlier in that night being so mad at Gus, because we're sitting at the bar. I wonder if you remember this Gus. It's just you and I were there, it was early, and we're sitting there at the bar, and Gus goes, he kind of like zones out for a second, and I'm like, fucking around on my, probably my flip phone or whatever, you know. Probably on my, what were those phones we used to have Gus? Sidekick? Sidekick, probably on my sidekick, you know? Probably on my, what were those phones we used to have, Gus? Sidekick? Sidekick, probably on my sidekick, you know? Typing very slowly.

And I, but I registered him like, kind of checking out. And then he comes back and he goes, oh my God, that lady over there. And I go, yeah, I'm just on my, on my sidekick and he goes, she just showed her boobs to the whole bar. And I go, what? Really?

And he goes, yeah, for a long time too. And I'm like, why are you telling me after, man? Why are you telling me now? And he's like, I go, what? Really? And he goes, yeah, for a long time too. And I'm like, why are you telling me after, man? Why are you telling me now? And he's like, I was preoccupied. I was preoccupied. I didn't think about it. And I'm like, for how long? And he's like, oh, it's like six or seven seconds. And I'm like, yeah, but to everybody, he was like, yeah, I just like flashed in the whole bar. And I'm like, and you couldn't tell me until after. And then, and then, and then, and then it happened again, like 20 minutes later and he didn't tell me. I was distracted, I was preoccupied.

It happened twice. Twice. Oh, I forgot about that. I mean, you got the internet, you were on your sidekick, you could look up, but you were on that thing. I had the internet, it was just like, I was just so surprised that you just froze in that moment. Yeah.

I don't know. There's like something, you don't expect, I guess, you know, especially God, way back then, Jesus. There was like a couple of years we would go down to that area, that part of Seattle, into those bars for various reasons, and then we just stopped. I think we got old and tired, and we just stopped going over to that. It's like it's a bit of a walk to get over there. I went over there actually during,

I was just in Seattle in April maybe for the AH live tour and I walked over there with Emily to that corner where those bars were and I think they're all still there and it just looks sketchy to me now. Like I just, it's just like, why was I so excited to hang out over these places? But I feel that way almost every bar now that I look at that I would have loved at 25. I'm like, what the fuck was wrong with me?

It just looks like tetness. Years, years ago, back in, again, same, same time period, I guess around 2005, we were making red versus blue. And I remember, you know, we were still got really, really small, the runner couple of us. I think that, yeah, this this time, we were still in Bernie Spear Bedroom making red versus Blue End even move to the apartment in beauty yet.

And I want to say it was around episode 50 or so. It was close to the end of season three. We were just like, I don't know about everyone else. I wanted to murder you guys. I was just so done with it all. We were all just really stressed out. We had a couple of like long episodes we needed to make and we were just spending days in that room not leaving. Yeah. Like I

think it's it's it's it's people may not realize the the amount and the scope of work and over work. It was it was not healthy. The amount of work we were putting into it was like we bought a couch for that spare bedroom so that one person could sleep while everyone else was working. And we would take turns sleeping on the couch because it's like, oh, we're going to be in here for the next nine days with no breaks working to get, you know, this stuff done. And I remember I was like, I was so over it. I was so fed up. I wanted to murder all you guys.

During one of my sleep breaks on the couch, I pulled out my laptop and I was like, I'm going to book a fucking trip. I'm leaving. I got to get away from these assholes. And I was like, I got to book a fucking trip. I'm leaving. I gotta get away from these assholes. And I was like, I gotta go somewhere that my phone doesn't work. Remember, again, pre-iPhone.

And where it'll be impossible to reach me. And I think I had just seen like lost in translation. I was like, I'm gonna go to Japan. So like, I booked myself a trip alone to Tokyo for like a week. I booked it for like a week or two out when we were gonna be done with all of this stuff. And I was like, this'll be my reward. We're gonna be done with this.

And I'm gonna leave. And I'm not gonna get talked to these fucking assholes for a week. And I went to Tokyo by myself. It was the first time I'd ever been to Japan. And like I said, phones didn't work globally back then. If you had a phone from the United States, your phone did dick in Japan. And who cares, even if it did, let's not like you had smartphones. If you had a phone from the United States, your phone did dick in Japan.

And who cares, even if it did, let's not like you had smartphones, it was like a dumb, I think I had a motor or a razor at the time, and maybe the sidekick. So I went to Japan and I had downloaded a series of images that someone had scanned the Tokyo subway system into a series of images and I put them on my iPod and I could scroll through the subway map of Tokyo

using the scroll wheel on my iPod. So I could see like where I was going. That way I had like, because there was no internet, like I had like a little offline map, I could scroll through my iPod. So I knew where I was going on the subway and I went out there and I don't know if we have

like a mutual friend who's never done anything with Rupert Heath, Stephen, I don't know if you remember him, Jeff. Yeah, yeah. He used to play D&D with him. And Steven found out I was going to Tokyo. And he was like, oh, I've got a friend of mine who's lived in Tokyo for like 10 years.

He teaches English out there. He's like a linguist. He speaks English, he speaks Japanese, he speaks Russian. You name the language, he probably speaks it. And he's like, you should meet up with him while you're out there. It's like, yeah, that's cold. I'll do that.

So like one night I met up with this dude, we go to like a little pub in a Rapunzel. And we're just like, you know, eating some food, drinking, then we just start like walking down the street. We're like doing like a little bar crawl through Rapunzel. And we're, we're walking down the street. And there's these two Russian women walking behind us on the street. Rapunzel is like a big touristy area, you know, a lot of foreigners. It'd be like six street in Austin. And we're walking down the street in Rapungy

and there's these two Russian women behind us, you know, speaking to each other. And I'm talking to the dude and he goes, hold on one second. And we stop in the street, he turns around and in Russian starts like, accosting these women. And they both like turn white and pale

and they just like immediately cross the street, like away from us as quickly as they can. And I was like, what's that about? He goes, like, turn white and pale. And they just, like, immediately cross the street, like, away from us as quickly as they can. And I was like, what's that about? You guys, oh, they're talking shit about us. They think, I don't know what they're saying. I was like, oh, that's really cool. This guy, obviously, really knows his languages. And we're walking down the street some more

and we stop at this one building. And he's like, he looks at me. He's like, you ever been to a conversation club? And I go, no, I was like, I have no idea what the fuck that even is. He goes, come on, let's go here. And we walk up to this elevator and you know how the buildings Japan are?

It's like multiple businesses in like a tall building. And it's nighttime, it's probably like 11 PM midnight. And we walk up to this elevator and there's like this really big dude standing at the elevator, like blocking you from going to it. Like the guy that I'm there with and the dude at the elevator start talking for a bit, then like the big dude stands aside, you know, hits the button to call the elevator, it opens up, then he reaches into, we walk into the elevator, the big dude reaches into the elevator,

pushes like six on the elevator and the doors close and we go up and I'm like, where are we going? And he's like, I told you we're in a conversation club, we get up to the sixth floor and the doors closing, we go up and I'm like, where are we going? And he's like, I told you, we're in a conversation club. We get up to the sixth floor and the doors open and it's like the doors open to like a night club slash strip club. It's my first impression that I look at and I'm like, are we going to a strip club?

Because no, no, no, no, no, it's not like that at all. We walk in and like this host just meets us and you know, she's speaking Japanese and the dude I'm with is speaking Japanese back to her that I'm in this like prolonged conversation. And then Japanese back to her, they're having this prolonged conversation. And then he tries to go, oh, you're in luck, there's someone here who speaks English tonight. And the hostess takes us to this little booth.

It's like a booth with curved couch with very cushy. And we go in and we sit down. And then these two Japanese women come up. One sits on the side of the other guy and then one comes and sits next to me. And the dude leans over to me, he's like, you just sit here and talk. And you buy them drinks and they'll talk to you. And you can just hang out here. I was like, okay, and that's why I guess he was said, oh, that I was in luck that someone spoke English, because like the woman who's next to me was like the only one in the club who could speak English.

So like that dude and the other woman are having like this really long conversation in Japanese. And like talking to this woman about whatever, just like making small shit chat and every now and then she'd be like, I'm thirsty. Can you buy me a drink? Like, okay. And like the waitress comes over and you buy an expensive drink and she sits there and just talks to you. We were there for like 45 minutes an hour and I was like, okay, cool. Let's leave. That's enough. It was the most bizarre experience I've ever, one of the most bizarre experiences I've ever had in my life. So was she like an expert at conversation? Like was it particularly interesting?

Did she have like a range of topics that were fascinating? She was very, like when I think her, her job is to get you to talk, right? Like, I don't want to talk. To engage you in conversation. You want to talk? So like, she found out that I was from Texas. So she was like, oh, you know, that's what she drilled into. Like Western stuff, horses, sheriffs.

I remember she was obsessed with sheriffs. Like, what is a sheriff? What do sheriffs do? Like, I guess this must be a question that she has had for a long time. She was like, explain to me what a sheriff is because it makes no sense. She must have been picturing like, old-watt sheriff, you know, rounding up a posse, getting on a horse, chasing people down. Sounds like she should have been buying you drinks.

Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Is the goal of this place for more than conversation to happen? I think no, the goal of the place is just for you to buy expensive drinks for the women. Then what's the goal of the place? They just make money. If you're buying them drinks, it's like all the drinks are overpriced, then... Why would you go to this?

I'm going to make a... Dude, I don't know. Wildly uneducated guess. That I hope isn't offensive in any way. But I thought, wonder maybe if it's culturally, like maybe it's harder to meet people or to strike up conversations. And so this is like a safe space to do it.

I, you know, where you- It could be. I don't know. I've been to Japan. Everybody was really nice and conversational with me and I didn't feel like I had to pay them. But I don't know. But why have the big bouncer guy?

I don't know. Maybe he was there to like to deter, because like I said, they said I was lucky that there was an English speaker there that maybe it's to deter non-Japanese speakers from going up and like wasting time if they're gonna be able to buy drinks or engage. Like it's not a normal bar. Maybe there's like a barrier to entry to be able to get in.

I don't know. I don't, like again, they spoke, they had their conversation. I don't know, I wasn't privy to their conversation. This is insane. This is so, like, this is insane to me. Like this seems so crazy. I'm glad that I did it and I had that experience because I feel like it's something you probably normally couldn't do.

Yeah. Despite the fact it's repondent, it seems very much like there is a high barrier to entry. And it might not be something that you can easily do. Cause like you got you guys have been to Japan. And you neither of you have ever done anything like that. You're both looking at me like I'm an alien when I'm describing the things. Yeah, no, not at all. I didn't see anything like that when I was in Japan.

Yeah. Did it let me ask you this. Did it work? Did you come home recharged and no longer annoyed with me and Bernie? Well, I'm still here. We're still making content. It was an interesting exercise because aside

from that night meeting that dude, for the most part, I really didn't speak. Right, it's like, I can't speak Japanese. I was like getting by, like on very little conversation. So it's like a lot of just walking around and a lot of just like introspection. And it was like, I think that might have been my first time out of the country, not counting Mexico for leisure, not because we're going to work doing an event somewhere internationally, because I think that was the only time I traveled internationally before then. And that was at the end of season three, you said? Yeah, that would have been O5.

I want to say, may or June O5? I remember you hating us a lot in season two. Dude, I hated a lot. Again, we spent so much time together. There was so much work. I don't know how we're still friends and we're still being content together. Well, not all of us are still being content together, right?

Like, well, it's... Yeah. Uh, it's... No's to be fair to you, man. I have, I remember how obnoxious I could be. And I remember too, that Bernie and I together could be a real pain in the ass. As a matter of fact, I remember one time, Dan Gottlund saying that the reason he didn't wanna hang out with us anymore

was because Bernie and I didn't know when to stop. There was one time, so when we were down there working in the spare bedroom in Buda, just for reference for people who don't live in this area, like to drive down to Buda to the spare bedroom when we were working at Bernie's house, it was like 45 minutes each way to get down there. I remember one time we were recording, we had gone down with the express intent to record the season two red versus blue DVD commentary.

And we had gone down there and it went off to reals immediately. Like, it was just like, I could tell, it's like, we're wasting our time here. Yeah, this is a beautiful, that night. And I had, yeah. And I had, like, I was supposed to play D&D

with my other group of friends, and I had to cancel that, because I was gonna come here do this, and I get there, it's like, we're just fucking around. Like, this is all a waste. And like, I just left, like halfway through that taping,

I was like, I just walked out, got in my car, just drove back to Austin, like the 45 minutes, just like, fuming and mad. And then I was right, because the next day, we had to get back together and then redo it. It was like, it was all unusable. It was terrible.

We, I think we determined really quickly that it was gonna be unusable and we leaned into it. I remember that night. I remember being like, well, this is never coming out, so let's just have fun. Yeah, fun, this is never coming out. So let's just have fun. Uh-huh. Yeah. Fun. Air quotes. It's so funny because everybody got in everybody's nerves. But we all had different thresholds.

And I remember, man, when you would hit yours, it was like, there was no coming back from it. It was like, it was like, it was like falling off a cliff. And that was like, well, Gus is gone. That's it. There's no more. We're not getting anything out of Gus for the next, for the rest of the night. Oh, yeah.

I was definitely less patient back then, but you guys, you guys pushed it, man. You guys fucking pushed it. I don't play that. We were so obnoxious. And everybody hated everybody by the way too. Like Bernie and I could keep. Bernie and I could barely stand each other

for about six months when we were wrapping up season one. And it was just the two of us in that room for that little bit and like. I remember I used to do a thing that I honestly didn't know I did, but it would drive that he would scream at me, which is every time we were making an episode and for any RVB fans listening,

this happened every episode of Red Vs. Will you ever watched? If you liked it, this happened. When I was head bobbing, I was mocking all of your lines and all of your performances, and I would just do it to myself without realizing it, and I would just be like, I'm kind of a bee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e, you know,

I'd be like, new team killing fucked third. Or like whatever the fucking stupid, you know, Sarge line was or whatever, and really, grab you with it, and I was making fun of, and I wasn't making fun of the characters, I was specifically making fun of you guys. And I would just do it till myself, without even realizing I was doing it.

And Bernie'd be like, stop! Just fucking stop! Okay? It's not, it's not just to help. It doesn't help. It's just annoying. Just knock it off. I'd be like, what?

Okay, sorry, man. God. Oh, those were the days. And we had to basically ban Jason from production for a while because he couldn't not, we would do, God damn, Eric. We would, you know, we're making a movie here, right? So we would set up a scene and it could sometimes take 20 to 30 minutes,

especially if it's like, you gotta get a fucking tank in a certain position or on top of a base or something stupid. And then you would, he was been like an hour getting it all ready and then you would go he was been like an hour getting it all ready and then you would go to record and hit like yell record and then Jason would throw a grenade in the middle of it and go, and then everything would go all of our,

an hour of work would fly away thanks to physics, video game physics and we'd have to set it all back up again. God, I forgot about that. He was the one that I hated the most back then. Yeah. Oh man. I think you hated Bernie and I. Bernie hated me. I hated Jason.

It was the circle of hate. And it was like it was in perfect equal. And I don't think Jason gave a fuck about any of it. Like or hate. Oh man. God, that was a lot of fucking work. I do not miss that level, not amount of work. And I think that, you that, if I'm looking honestly

and critically at it, I think we taught ourselves bad habits in doing that. I think it was necessity and we had to because we didn't have the manpower to otherwise to get stuff done, but I think that tainted our view of work and how much work you needed to do in really fucked up our work life balance. Yeah, well, for sure.

I think part of the problem was though, I don't know if it's a problem or not, but I think we were all genuinely, like looking back on it now, it's crazy and it was unhealthy for sure, but when I was doing it, I was having a blast. Like I would be mad, I would be frustrated, I would hit, I remember I was good

till about 230 in the morning, and then I would be frustrated. I would hit, I remember I was good till about 2 30 in the morning and then I would just, I would just turn into a moby, whiny, useless piece of shit. And then I would have another three hours to go. And then I just made everybody miserable around me because I was miserable. But like, but then the next day I'd get up ready to do it again, you know? Yeah. It's not like, it's not like anybody. And it's like we were being forced by a boss. No. We were, we weren't even holding each other accountable. We were just wanted to be a part of this thing and to work on it. And I would rather, you know, I would rather be doing that with you in

Bernie than just playing Halo on a Friday night with you in Bernie, you know, it's still more purposeful and yeah, but we did, we didn't know when to stop was a problem. For sure, for sure, for sure. Uh, I don't know disagreements there. And maybe that was partially generational. Yeah, who knows? I mean, we were just so invested in getting it off the ground

and having it work and be successful. And I think we just didn't know when to let off the gas pedal. Oh, 100%. I mean, we would always describe it as we were on a runaway train just like fucking hanging on the outside of it. And we had no control. We were just trying to stay on the train, you know? Yeah.

Yeah. And I wish we had figured out, honestly, I wish we had figured out work life balance sooner than we had. But, Ren's side's 2020, I guess. I mentioned this already, but, you know, I don't know if I did on this show or not, but that's kind of like what really fucked us up. Like if you hear us talking about other friends or the D&D group I used to play with, like we don't have any of those friends anymore. We were just so invested in making this thing work

that if you weren't making this stuff with us, then we just never saw you anymore. We stopped having, you know, other friends. Yeah, that wasn't all on us. Some of that was the other friends as well. But it's true. Like you and I, you and, and to a slightly lesser extent, but you and I and Bernie were a part of a very large, healthy, fun friend group, you know, that we had on our, in our mid 20s. We used to go bowling. We used to go bowling. We used to do a lot of stuff. We used to have cookouts. We used to play basketball.

All kinds of stuff. And Red vs. Blue became, once again, such a runaway train that we just allowed a lot of friendships to languish. And I am really sad about that. Like I remember a couple of years ago Gus, you and I, I don't even know if this is what we ever talked about in our podcast, but an old, old, old friend, one of our best friends again, and Bradley reached out to us who we hadn't realized we hadn't talked to in over a decade. And he was like, he was like in the main group. Like we would talk

to him, we would hang out with him every day. Like if we were going drinking, it was me and you and Bradley and a few other people, but he was like in that, you told, you've told a story about Bradley in this podcast. Have I? What did I tell? Oh, the, oh, about playing for a, uh, uh, uh, Scarface and, uh, get a voice, right? Playing drums for get a voice. No, no, you, that was not the story. You told, uh, the story you told was, uh, when we were talking about how Jason used to be called poop. Oh, yeah, that's right. That was, it was Bradley's wife's girlfriend sister. Yeah. His girlfriend sister said, oh, that's right. That was Bradley's girlfriend sister. Yeah.

His girlfriend sister said, oh, that's sad. And anyway, so we went and got coffee with him like maybe three years ago, or four years ago at this point and caught up and it was like, it was, it really crystallized how much time had passed and how much we lost because that, we started reminiscing and thinking about all the other people that we fell out of contact with

because we were just weren't we weren't we were at a town 25 weeks a year first off, you know, 25 weekends a year. So it was not like we had a lot of time even in Austin to see people and it we were so all consumed. I really do lament the really good friendships that we that we let fall by the wayside just because of lack of attention, because we were too focused on something else. Yeah, absolutely. We had a friend named Ajax

that I think about all the time. Oh, yeah. He doesn't live in Austin anymore. No, he moved. He moved. Yeah. I drive by that. We went to his wedding.

I drive by that church where he got married pretty frequently. And I always think about how long that service was. It was such a long mask. Do you remember how long that was? Dude, the longest night of my life was a Catholic wedding. Oh my God. Have you ever been to a Catholic wedding, Eric? No, never. Seven hours long. Oh, Christ. The mass and the service went on forever. Forever. And he was like the least Christy person I'd ever met. He was like, it was like, he was the less people that he walks in the church

and you're like, you stand back to just as he is going to catch on fire. And you're like, no, okay, I can go in. We're kind of coming up on time. Can you believe it? You're going to go, wow, already? And the answer is yes. We didn kind of coming up on time. Can you believe it? You're gonna go, wow, already? And the answer's yes.

We didn't even cover any of the shit. We talked about it from last time. I wrote it down here. Well, I know. It's written down for the next one, I guess. What did you tell us to talk about that we didn't talk about, I forgot. It was a bunch of stuff.

Do you want me to say it on this podcast? We'll just do it next time. Yeah, yeah, just do it next time. However, I think we're taking a break for a couple of weeks. Okay. This is the last episode before we take a little break. We're gonna try, I think we'll be off for about two weeks of like regular content, but we'll probably record

some little stuff. Me and Jeff have to go to VidCon. Maybe we'll record something there. Maybe something small with Gus. Who knows? I don't know, but like a couple of weeks of small stuff, just wanna let you guys know, stay subscribed. And also tell a friend about this podcast.

Remember that friend that you had on the forum forever ago and you go, oh man, they should check this out. Go, just tweet at him real quick, let him know about Anima. I think that's probably a good way to go. You guys wanna review your coffee or? Oh yeah, what coffee did you have guys? I have a coffee maker here at my house. It's like a little DeLonguia espresso maker. So I just make myself Americ my house. It's like a little de longuia espresso maker.

So I just make myself a Americana here. It's fine. This morning I used Lavaza espresso roast just because that's all I had. Other times I'll use different ones, but it's totally, it's like the standard for coffee. It's not exceptional, it's not bad. It's just there, six or seven.

All right, how about you, Eric? I made a pour over with the Chiapas from Barrett's Coffee. That was exceptional. That's kind of my daily driver right now is the Chiapas from Barrett's Coffee. I always go, I have like a vacuum seal thing that I just go fill it up and then pay the price and then I usually get one other whole bean thing that I just go fill it up and then pay the price and

then I usually get one other whole bean thing that I just kind of play around with. But the Chiapas, I think, it barretts is one of my favorite coffees in Austin. I really recommend it. It is very, very excellent. So when I make my own coffee, it's always a 10 out of 10. But that's just for real. Well, I had a drip coffee today, black coffee, not a nice coffee. And it was, we used to have a partnership

with a company called Kings Coast up in New York City, a roaster, they made an achievement hundred coffee. And I had it on like auto buy. So every three weeks I just get a new bag of it. And then eventually that partnership ended and they just rebranded it as a different coffee. So now I have that coffee. And it was a tin.

Do you think that's something we should explore for this show? A coffee? I think so. Do you think that's something we should explore for this show? A coffee? Yeah, I think so. Are there any roasters out there? Hey, if you listen to the show and you roast coffee, can you just like, let me know? Don't go to the animal thing, just let me know,

and then we'll just be working in the background. I think having a coffee partnership for this show would be awesome. I think so. There's a coffee company that I do ad reads for and some of my other podcasts that should be paying us for ad reads on this podcast. Yeah, no kidding.

What the hell? Also, if trade wants to sponsor the show. There it is. There's the one trade. Trade, I'm running low on credit and I need something new. Come on, man. That's the other coffee I'll use sometimes.

I'm just out of my trade coffee. That's why I use the La Vaz at the store. Trades, great. Jeff, any guesses? Oh, how about a non-moral argument? Oh, wow. Oh, I really like that. That's a great guess.

That's a good guess, but no. Oh, thank you. What? That's not the answer. I saw it. Oh, man, I got annoyed with you, Gus. I got annoyed with you on Twitter the other day because somebody tweeted ANA, stands for anime

and you tweeted I like it. Yeah, I saw that too and let me tell you, I don't like it. I don't like it either. It's not an anime podcast. It's not an anime. I like this is not it. The thing I like is not that necessarily, the day was pronounced because anime

but it's kind of that flexible thinking when it comes to the name that, like it's not necessarily a straight thought that you might have while you're awake. Again, it's dream logic. I'm gonna steal pedal. It's floral book K, like Bukai, Bukai, it would've done that. On Twitter, they said it stands for animal magnetism.

Ooh, that's how I live my life. That I like that a lot. And on Twitter, they said it stands for animal magnetism. Ooh, that's how I live my life. I like that. Yeah. Hey, let me tell you that was a great guess. Let me ask you guys a question. Do you think people will like this episode less or more because there's no audio texture? Less, I think so too.

There are people who are all about the audio. I think I am too. I think I am too. That's my fault. That's my fault. I feel really bad about it. No, no, no. I'm not, it's fine. It's not like this. It's not like this. It's not like this. That's my fault. That's my fault. I feel really bad about it. No, no, no. I'm fine.

It's not like it's fault. We're just being safe and safety first, right? Like Danger, Irma, McGherty says. Safety first. But maybe Dennis, is it Dennis and Edesis? Yep, yep, yep. Maybe Dennis, sorry, I got, I'm on so many podcasts now, I get confused.

Maybe Dennis could add in some city sounds in the background. Little bit of midtown New York. No, no, we're not about that. We're not about artificial audio texture. Audio texture. Audio texture. I don't know, can you? 100% organic.

Maybe could be in the jungles of Brazil. I think that it's very, people really took to the audio texture thing. Like they were like really about it. I think that's so cool. Innovating here. Absolutely. What's the fun?

Like, I think that as silly as that is, it's what makes this show a lot of fun because we are going to different parts of Austin and hearing the traffic and being out and about and having that audio quality is like, oh yeah, this is like some really like brass tax like back to our roots type of stuff. And it's a lot of fun to do.

I really enjoy it for that. You know what I like about it? Well, all those things. But also, I've been amazed that not a single person has approached us or asked what we're doing or tried to get on. Like, you know, sometimes you throw them, I don't wanna jinx us, I'm knocking on my wooden table here,

but like you opened, like the test we did, the second test, Gus and I did, I think, we had like a dude yelling at us from the street. That never aired, obviously. But we have been, I will say exceptionally lucky that we've found all these coffee shops have space where I think we're going at the right times where everyone is sort of like doing their own thing and the like like the like the weirdos aren't quite out yet. And so we've just found like the little sweet spot for us around Austin.

And I'm eagerly stressed for that to change. I hate it. It's gonna happen. I'm gonna be miserable about it. I get so stressed out every time we go to a coffee shop and I worry, we're not gonna find a spot this time. I don't know where we're gonna record. I always like, I look at the area,

I look at like a quarter mile around it, I look at like, okay, so if we can't go here, what if I street view over here, maybe we can go over here, we can drive to this, I'm always trying to find a spot. It's so stressful, I hate it. That's an excellent place. We could help you find a spot from 20 years ago

that would have been in the area. Yeah, that's true. Before we're done here, I do want to comment someone somewhere got extraordinarily close to the name. Like, oh no. Oh, Matt, it was almost there. It was like, that is almost it.

That is like, man, for the name, for the name. I guess it's clarified for the, and my name. It was like, I was like, that is like, man. Wow. For the name, for the name. I guess I should clarify it for the, uh, and my name. It was like, I was like, I thought, I was, I thought, I had to read it twice because I thought they actually typed the name. I was like, oh no. They were that close. Yeah, they were really close.

So are they like one letter off or something or? Do you really want me to say? Uh, why? I mean, I guess not. I guess not. Yeah, right. I mean, like, yes, but also, no. No, I guess not. I mean, I guess, right. I mean, like, yes, but also, no. No, I guess not.

I mean, I guess, yeah. They were close. They were real close. So you heard it here, somebody. You almost got it. Up until now, I thought it was impossible that anyone would guess it. But the fact that someone finally got that close,

like, oh, someone is eventually gonna get this. I realize that now. Wow. It's not the anime one, right? I'm not saying, I'm not saying. Oh my God. It's a mother fucker. All right, well, if you wanna take your guesses

and follow us on social, you can add Anima podcast, ANMA podcast on Twitter, on Instagram. You guys can see us at RTX. When does this come out? I don't know. Right around RTX, something like that. This comes out like right before RTX. Yeah, we will be recording an episode of this show at RTX.

Who knows if it's going to be an actual episode or bonus? Yeah. One or the other, we'll find out soon, I suppose. But come to RTX, find us there, and any parting words for the people. Stay on the move. Safety first. That doesn't mean anything, by the way. That means be safe. No for the people. Stay animal. Safety first. That doesn't mean anything, by the way. It means be safe.

No, the animal. No, that's stay animal. It might mean a lot of stuff. No. The End Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? All right, example.

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