ANMA - From Rainey to Caesar Chavez

Episode Date: April 24, 2023

Good Morning, Gus! From Praxis Coffee at Lustre Pearl East, it's a brand new episode of ANMA. This week Gus and Geoff talk Moving a house physically, All Gimmicks is hopping, AFS Cinema changes, Where all the theaters all, Pick a part, Getting towed, Rainey Street’s expansion, Serial Killer moontowers, Julio’s in Hyde Park, Good lines, and The definition of success. Come out and see us at RTX July 7-9. Grab a cup of coffee and watch a live episode of ANMA. www.RTXAustin.com  Sponsored by Aura Frames http://auraframes.com and use code ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah, last time it was Epoch on Far West with Becca. It was the Becca-Sode. And it was a... The Lip Becca-Sode. Yeah, that's the title of the... I like it. That's the title of Becca-Sode. The Becca-Sode. That's the title of the podcast, the Becca Soed.

We talked about Pranks on Becca, we talked about Gariot's house, we talked about rats, we talked about working at the call center and a bunch of other stuff, but now we are past that and we are not at epoch. No. No.

No. No. No. No. This is not an awesome story, but when Emily and I, we were vacationing a couple years ago, we went to Bruge and then we took a train from Bruge. We were in Bruge. And then we took a train to Amsterdam and all of the graffiti along the way along the train, so like a four hour train. We got to see, it was, somebody wrote all rats everywhere, all over, it's written all over Europe,

and anytime I hear rats, I laugh, because I think about just like the 2000 tags I saw somebody going, all rats. It's the new killjoy was here. Yeah. We're at Lester Pearl East today. She's weird because I have not been in this building since it was on Rainy Street.

Dude, I had so much fun. So I came here for the first time as well. And by the way, first off, Lester Pearl was a bar that was on Rainy Street. It was the bar that launched Rainy Street. It kind of kicked off the Rainy Street. There were two establishments that kind of kicked off Rainy Street.

Lester Pearl was a bar in a cutel Texas house and then there was an Indian restaurant that was literally in somebody's backyard called Garage, Mahal. And I think it's still there, it's just moves. It's definitely like that further down here. And if you go to what Rany Street is now, which we can get into a little bit,

it's very different from what it was. And we've told stories about our friend Adam. Who used to live on Rany Street and we told the story about how we went to a party and we drank the skunky beer that they found in the woods. He lived across the street from this building. Yeah, he lived across the street from this building. Wait, that was across the street from here,

the skunky beer in the woods? Yeah. No, no, no, no. Well, when it was on Rainy Street. Oh, okay. So, man, this building used to be on Rainy. This house, this physical house that's over here in the East Austin, they picked up and they moved

to this new location. And now it's a coffee shop, and they built a building for Luster Pearl next store, and they just cohabitate the same space. But I had so much fun when we got here, because you did the same thing I did two Sundays ago when I just stopped in for coffee, as you walked, you did the old man walk through,

hand junior pockets through every room, and went like, yeah, I saw you, I saw your wheels going and he had going, nah, that's the same. I remember, oh, there's the hole through the fireplace. Yeah. Yeah. Do other parts of the country move houses

as frequently as people move houses here in Austin? No. No, okay. No, I've seen it more in my time here than I ever have anywhere else I've ever lived or really been. Yeah. People just take a house, like people will buy a property

but not the house and then someone will take the house, put it on the back of a truck, and then move it somewhere else, which is presumably what they did with this building. Yeah, even Emily Salon, Vain Salon, you know? Yeah. That house is from West Texas. It got moved to that spot, I wanna say in the 80s.

Wow. Yeah. I don't know what was there before it, but. Could you get these awesome old craftsmen homes that are like a hundred feet used in the country? No, no, no, no, no, no, because all the whole walk into this thing, you just kept saying, boy, I hope it doesn't stink.

I hope it doesn't smell bad anymore. Well, clearly they haven't done a good job of taking care of it. But there's still these awesome old craftsmen homes that with like these beautiful homes. How much does it cost to move a house though? I don't know. I don't know.

Dude, clearly it's worth it. If people are doing it. Yeah, clearly. I don't get it. mean dude clearly it's worth it. If people are doing it. Yeah clearly. I don't get it. I'm on the other side of it where I'm constantly stuck behind these trucks on the road. It's like oh great here we go. This five minute trip's not going to take half an hour because there's someone moving a fucking house. Uh, wherever on a surface street. Let us know dude. Didn't feel move houses a lot in your neighborhood in your town. Have you ever moved to a house? City State. No. Oh, the other day, yesterday, was he yesterday? Yeah, yesterday.

I went back to all gimmicks in the afternoon to get some coffee. Oh, be really? Hell yeah. And there was an animalist over there. Was there really? Were you serious? Yeah. Were putting all gimmicks on the map?

What time did you go? Uh, like two o'clock or so? I went at like three on a Sunday and it was closed. So I guess two is... Oh, maybe it was like one. Which one wanted to sometimes? That's so cool. Yeah, I was like, he just said hi on his way out.

Like as he was walking to his car. I was like, oh, he caught me by surprise. Oh, that's so cool. How was your coffee? It was excellent. I love that place. You get an Americana? Yeah, you know what?

Dang, man. That's so cool. Were there a lot of people? There were a lot of people there for a cider house. There were a lot of people for a cider house, but all the gimmicks was getting good amount of business. That's so cool. Were there a lot of people or were there a lot of people there for cider house? There were a lot of people were cider house, but there was a all gimmicks was getting good amount of business Yeah, we I had to was there with Esther We had to wait a bit for our drink because they were making other people's drinks and yeah, it was it was happened It was a good time

So yeah, so I finally went back and immediately ran into someone who listens to him I'm glad it held up and that we're also driving at least one person of traffic to them. It's more than we've ever done before, so why not? Making a difference. Yeah, so finally, I made my all-game extra time, I didn't miss the turn this time. It's kind of hard to see.

I will say it's like kind of in a warehouse area. It's, when I pulled in, I started turning it in and said, there's a coffee shop here. It does not look like it. It's a coffee shop in human trafficking. Yeah. That was the back of this building.

Yeah, so that was cool. I also went for maybe the first time. So for the first time in a long time, I went to AFS cinema, which is out there in what used to be Lincoln Village. I guess they called it the link now. Yeah. Yeah. Have you been there at all recently?

It's like kind of an art house theater. I saw a live event there two years ago. Everything is terrible. I saw there. I've been there, it's such, I've been there a couple of years ago. They used to do the Armadillo Christmas Bazaar there. Oh yeah. Before they opened it up as AFS cinema.

So I was there a few times for that. But AFS cinema, it's now it's like a art house cinema. They just played like really small independent movies, like movies that aren't gonna get played anywhere else. I have to go there to see something that, like even the draft house wasn't playing. And old stuff, too. And old stuff, yeah.

And the last movie I saw there was Titanic. Oh my God. I think I saw it there in January 1998. Before it was, obviously, before it was IFS cinema, it was like a regular theater. I'd had like, not a budget. Like three screens or screens or something I don't know it wasn't very big I saw Pulp Fiction there saw Pulp Fiction yeah so it was weird walking back in there for the first time in 25 years watching a movie again but it's it's cool to band the pop where there's great did it feel

the same when you walk back in it's totally it's totally different it's just weird to walk back in and watch a movie in like the same place it was back in? It's totally been renovated, totally different. It's just weird to walk back in and watch a movie in the same place. It was, do you remember what was weird about that place? Back when it was, not that it's A.F.S. it's different, but back in the 90s when that mall was kind of happening, that strip mall was kind of happening, and it was a movie theater.

Eric, they had eight screens, I wanna say, or maybe four screens, but they were split into two buildings. And so there would be on one side, there was of the parking lot, there was a movie theater, and on the other side, there was to the left side, there was another set of theaters, and you could only buy tickets at one side. There was a can on one side, so you'd get the ticket and you go like, oh, I go into this building or I walk across the parking lot to the other. Wait, it was the same theit.

Like, it was like the same, like if you went to like AMCC it's AMC the whole way, but it was in two different buildings Yeah, or at the end of two different building at the same building. Yeah, what the fuck? Wasn't there also another theater across the road from it across middle Fiskville or did the galaxy Highland? No, even besides the galaxy Highland like where the Burleson Burleson what is it the Burling Tech Coat Factory? Oh, was there you there might have been there There was another one there for a while too. Oh wow. So it's weird that there's so many right there in that little area.

Yeah, what? Yeah, I don't know. We were driving, we were pretty, we were south of the river, and I was saying, like, oh, there's like this split from like, kind of like the south of the river part, all the way down to like slaughter, where I just don't stop.

I just drive on through until I get down to slaughter where I end up most of the time. And Jeff was like, oh, this is where all the movie theaters used to be. Yeah. And it's like, I don't understand. What do you mean all the movie theaters used to be here? What the fuck does the metropolitan got built there on the west side of 35 at Stazzy in 35? Yeah, but that was built right around the same time as like, what was it? The was it? The was it? The Whistletown South. Was Tinsletown South on the other side on the East side.

I only went to Tinsletown South once, I think. I was normally metropolitan guy. You've been to Tinsletown South multiple times with me. Yeah, we just, we preferred metropolitan. It was much nicer, but we did see, we saw, we saw Mission Impossible 2 there. I don't know if you remember that, but we saw Mission Impossible 2. I remember seeing it, it was me and you and a manny,

I think it was a thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, from, from the, you mean you and a bunch of people from the call center? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man, that's fucking, that's a fucking long time ago. So it was just a bunch of theaters down there, or like,

no, it was just two big theaters, but in Austin, at the time, Alamo, there was only one like- No, it was just two big theaters, but in Austin, at the time, Alamo, there was only one Alamo, and it was the downtown Alamo, and it was really a specialty theater. You wouldn't go see for new first runs there. Not at all. If you wanted to go to a movie, you would go to Tenstown South, or metropolitan, and that was pretty much it,

until you got up to the domain Arboretum area. There was also the one at Westgate, but we didn't go there very often. Yeah, it was fucking out there. We saw a couple of movies there, but it was like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Yeah, we also saw, I think we also saw Goldmember there. And yeah, and we saw Jackass too. Yeah, so we went there a couple of times, but it was not in the regular rotation. We've been friends and hanging out for so long that we saw Mission Impossible 2.

That's gonna be a mess. Together. That's crazy. We saw the South Park movie together and that was like around season 3 of South Park, I wanna say. That was at the Metropolitan. Yeah, that was at the Metropolitan. So yeah, anyway, Eric was just saying like from 290 to slaughter, he'd be like, what even is this part of Austin?

No, no reason to come. Motor mile, they really don't push that anymore. That's like, all the car dealerships are there. They've spread out, but all the car dealerships used to be there. You can definitely see it still. As you drive down, you go dealership, dealership, Applebee's dealership, dealership. There's more in other parts of town, but that was it. That was all of them.

You've got to, I said, there was lows, there's a crispy cream. There's chilies there. There's a fiesta. There's a fiesta. What else do you hang out with down there? That chilies burn down, you remember that? Yeah. They built it, then it, like, it was open for like a week,

then it burned down. Really? And then they had to rebuild it immediately. Gus and I used to go to an old salvage yard there over there to dig through old cars to look for parts for our old trucks. Oh, there was a salvage yard, like a pick up part. It's still there. I think it was off of like South Congress,

but like way south, like yeah, the South. It's like Sassney and William Cannon. Yeah. That's not that far south. No. I mean, it's south. It's that area that you do you have a blind spot? Yeah, but I we just wanted to clarify it's way south

because when you say South Congress, people think like the church area. Like no, no, but we just wanted to clarify, it's waste out, because when you say, Sal Congress people think like the truth here. Like, no, no, no, like way past, like, like, keep going. It's not where that shit is. You get right outside of downtown, and here's your pick apart.

You guys would go down there and pick, you like, you would try to just grab stuff for your trust. Sometimes it's like, you needed a part. Other times it was like, you just want to see what's there. Like, there might be a piece of chrome that fits perfectly for your truck. They're getting upgrade.

I'm just expecting upgrade. It's like, oh, this is the original mirrors for my truck. My truck has replacement mirrors. I need these mirrors. Ordering that shit online is, especially back then, is difficult at best. It's a lot easier when you go and see,

just take a wrench with you and walk around and be like, oh, this is exactly the part I need and it's 12 bucks. Was that pretty often? I mean, I think us and I were more attuned to that way of living and doing that kind of stuff when we were younger. So I would say we probably did it five, four, five, six times maybe.

I don't know the way it right, great success, but yeah. It was fun if nothing else to walk around and see the old cars. We had a couple hours. Yeah. Like, there's no charge to walk around and just look at old cars. I mean, most of them were fucked up.

But then you would go in and you would tell the guy behind the camera like what you're looking for and you'd go, I don't know if we got that, but if we do, it's in the back right, and you just go walk around for a while. Yeah. Especially, yeah. It was fun doing that stuff.

I think there is still a pick apart place there, but there used to be multiple ones down there. I think there were like three, I want to say there were like three in a row that you could hop between, but now I think there's just like that LKQ down there. I think that's the only one left. Yeah. But yeah, it's funny that I feel like that is a largely Overlook part of town. Absolutely. It's a lot more Like a lot of suburbs or a lot of cities are like very Like copy and paste and that's a lot of that there like you mentioned like we mentioned the Chili's the Apple bees and a lot of that stuff And even like car dealerships like that's not

Local personality not to say that there isn't any but if you're just driving past and looking off the highway, that's all you see. Yeah. Yeah, but it's easy to overlook that. I think twice Frank got his car toad and I had to take him over there to get it out of Hawk, out of tow, I wanna say two times. It's right over there in that area too. Like behind him, or it was back then

right behind the Mazda dealership on that side. Yeah, there is one there. The place I always think about, the infamous Get Your Car Toad in Austin places J and J. Yeah, and that's out closer to the airport, the lot out there. I think if you live in Austin long enough, you eventually J and J toes your car.

It's not as bad as it used to be, but I felt like parking was always abundant, but people, I'm talking back in the 90s, but people were very strict about towing. Yeah, like if you parked somewhere where you weren't supposed to or like a business that you weren't going to, like they were very quick to call and get J&J out there to tow you. When did you, do you remember the last time you got to?

The last time I got towed, man, it was a long time ago. It would have been going downtown. Uh, yeah, I parked somewhere where I didn't see the no parking sign. And then after I got to, it was very clear, like, oh, there's an, I parked right under a no parking sign. It was like right by the convention center, like right across from where Fogo is. Okay.

I, did you feel go moved? They moved? No, I did not. Yeah, it's now where second bar and grill used to be on second in Congress. At the Estonian? Yeah, that's fog of now. Oh, okay, wow. And then second bar and grill moved somewhere else.

The last time I got to Odin Austin, I wasn't even living here yet. I was still living, I was still in the army. And I would, you know, come down to go to shows or like in this particular instance, I came down on a Saturday to go to Sound Exchange, which was a very popular record store on the drag.

It eventually became a Baja fresh. I don't know what it is now. I think it's a CVS. It might be a CVS. It's where the high how are you, a little alien. It's that wall. So it was this record store. No, it's a Thai restaurant now.

It's Thai restaurant, you're right. I think it's Thai how are you? It might be. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. No, no, wait. It's not that anymore. It's an Indian restaurant now, I think. OK. I Are You? Is it? It might be. Yeah, it's getting in. No, no, wait, it's not that anymore. It's an Indian restaurant.

No, I think. Okay, I gotta look. Jesus. I don't have any Indian puns, Indian food puns for Hi How Are You? Anyway, so I come down on a Saturday and I had been, I wanted to treat myself and I was down with my first wife and so I spent 85, like 80, I remember it was $85.

I bought a bunch of records. It was like 85 bucks. I bought like six records. I was treating myself. I mean, I remember it was $85. I bought a bunch of records. It was like $85 about like six records. I was treating myself. I mean, that was a broke ass soldier. I mean, that was in what year? Mm, this would have been 1996 maybe. That's a lot of money in like 95 bucks. I had been saving them.

I only made like, in the army at that time, I only made like 700 bucks a month. And most of that went to car payment and insurance. And so anyway, so I, we used to park I'm only made like 700 bucks a month. And most of that went to car payment and insurance. And so anyway, so we used to park at this church parking lot. And I'd been parking there for years, everybody had a new park there.

And it was on a Saturdays, there was no big deal. You just didn't park there on Sundays. And I parked at this church parking lot, like two blocks off of Sound Exchange. And spent my 85 bucks, walked out, walked over, saw my car got towed, had to turn around, go back into Sound Exchange and Spimm A 85 bucks walked out, walked over, saw my car got towed, had to turn around, go back into Sound Exchange and ask them to take the records back. Oh! And I felt so lame.

That's so. And then I just had to get a cab over to J&J to get my fucking car back. That's terrible. Yeah, it was like 250 bucks and it was the worst. And I never, all those albums I was like, I'm gonna buy them again someday. I don't know what they are now, but I never did. Damn. It is the Thai restaurant.

The Indian restaurants next door to it. Okay. I just looked it up. Yeah, God, that sucks. I'm gonna go back in. It was really, like, it was really embarrassing at the time. We talked about on the way here, like just what this spot is and everything like that, because as we

drove down Caesar Chavez, I think it was Jeff going, what's this? What is that? This thing used to be here. What is this? They moved the road. Everything's totally different. And I don't live on the east side anymore. This used to be like, this used to be my stomping grounds.

Yeah. Let's drive down here all the time. So this is like, oh yeah, the last two years, this has been built. Oh yeah, they moved this over here. Our fulfillment center, when back when Jeff Roundestore was not too far from here. Yeah, so we were down in this area quite a bit,

especially coming off of 183, hitting in that direction. And this is where all the bars that I went to were. I was gonna ask, so what was here that you would like hop to, like what were like the hangouts over here? The bars on the east side, we used to go to, or at least I used to go to, were Shangri-La, the Grakhal, Liberty, Riyo Rida was my favorite bar.

It moved, I think it's since close down. It's a place called Latch-Key-Now, haven't been there. They used to be able to catch shows, this place called the Typreder Museum sometimes. There was the White Horse, Yellow Jacket, was a big one. I think most of those places are still here. I'm just throwing it anymore. Yeah, yeah.

And they also look a lot different. They were cool, they were cute little bars in rundown buildings on an old rundown street. Now they're like, you gotta buy Liberty and it's like sandwiched between two 20 story buildings. And it looks like the uphouse. Yeah. I mean, you keep on going to Yellowjack and it's still there hanging on, baby.

Now I like kind of tropical. If I come over this way, it's to go to kind of tropical. Love kind of tropical. Great curly fries. It's a very cool little spot. Sit out in the back. Tropical about it.

Let me ski this. Oh, okay, gotcha. There anything that you remember from this spot, like this area that you would come to other than the fulfillment center There was nothing right here. No, I said I don't know if you ever came out here, but I would play Speaking of Adam from earlier. I would play D&D With him and like some of the other extended crew light not too far from here. Yeah, it was up down the road a little bit I spent quite a bit of time. Are. We do that, or we brew beer sometimes.

I never got into the beer brewing thing, but he would always bring some over. Yeah, I just appreciate it. He brewed beer? I mean, it wasn't me, it was them. I just hung out. I was like, I watched the process. I got to enjoy the final product.

There's a lot of math in there. Yeah, there'd be like, here, hand me those hops. Which one is that? I'll just grab it myself, like that kind of stuff. Right. But yeah, that was, I think that building's still there, but it's just down a little away from here. It's, I will say it's real to be looking

at the Luster Pearl building because, we were talking earlier about how Rainy Street used to be. A place you didn't really go. It was kind of a quiet, two blocks stretch of partially condemned houses and soon to be condemned houses. I think even back then people would always say like, how is this still here? How is this still here? Yeah, and like, why is this so undeveloped in such a prime spot?

Now if you come to Austin, Rainy Street, I assume is a destination. There's probably eight condo buildings on it. There's some really good restaurants. Emmer and Rye is on Rainy Street. It's fucking delicious. There's a bunch of dickhead bars there. There's a bunch of like gimmick bars like the container bar there. And I think it's become, this hotel is like the Vansant. It's become like a destination, but it used to be a very quiet dark little street. And then for about two years, it was

a street that had luster pearl on it, which was a bar that Bridget Dunlap opened up in this rundown, little old house. And then that Indian restaurant, Garage Mahal, that I would go to all the time and then slowly like each little house turned into a bar. I think as each person's lease ran out or like as each person got ready, like looked around was like, oh, people are selling their house for a lot of money. Yeah. They put in their house on the market to do that. She very quickly had three bars. She had this one, Clive Bar,

and then whatever it was across the street from Lester Pearl, it was like 918 sports bars. I don't remember. And then, like, Eisenhower's opened up, and then, like, it just went insane. And then what happened was, Elise would run up on one of these little bars, and they would just bulldoze the lot,

and then bulldoze the next lot and then build a condo. And so now it's like this crazy built up area and there's I think three or four more developments right now going on. I think there's like one of the like a super tall building. Yeah, it's gotta be the densest section of Austin and it just happened in like 20 years. It was really, it's really weird.

It's really wild how quickly it changed. And Austinites absolutely don't know there. Yeah, no, it's not easy to get to. It's not easy to park at. No, it's incredibly crowded. And it's all brand new. So nobody has any emotional. Right? Or nose it. Yeah, yeah. Anything that was old there got moved to another bar. Yeah, like this Lester pearl. Also, you fall into the river and die. Yeah. Or there's a serial killer if you listen to... Oh my God. I'll look as proof here.

Have you heard the great names? We were reading them yesterday. No, they're pretty good. There's the... What's the... Jack the Dipper. Uh-huh. Is a good one.

The Brodyat Killer. I like that one. That's a good one. There's the Rainy Street Is a good one. Quality. The Brodyat Killer. I like Rowan. That's a good one. There's the Rainy State Roofie Killer. Yeah, go back to Golden State Killer. They go back to Golden State Killer. That's a good one. There's a Rainy State Roofie Killer.

So I was, some people in the office who moved to Austin recently, we're talking to me about this. And I was explaining to them how the first serial killer in the world was in Austin. Yes, technically the first serial killer. Well, the first Western, the first serial killer in the Western world. Yeah, it was the servant girl in Nielator. Yes. Who some people, some people speculate was Jack the Ripper. He started here, speculations he started here then went to England.

But that's the reason that Moon Towers are still around Austin, is in order to try to stop the servant girl in Isle later, the city built the Moon Towers to try to illuminate things so that people wouldn't be caught unaware in the dark. Because it was back in the 18th century. But it didn't work. But it didn't work. Because it took them 10 years to build the Moon Light Towers.

Yeah, so if you come to Austin, you visit, if you, like you'll see a lot of stuff called moon tower moon tower salon moon tower whatever Saloon There are there were 36 of these things. I think there's 18 left. Oh, I thought that was listen. Okay, maybe there are yeah and There were one of only two cities in America that had them somewhere else in America had them too for a while We ordered them in the 1890s when the servant girl and I later, honestly, servant girl and I later, he killed, he was killing Hispanic women and black women

and nobody fucking cared. And then on the anniversary of his first murder, he killed a white woman and then the city freaked out. And that's really what, that's when it fucking shaked into gear, right? And so they ordered these moon towers to illuminate the city but it took like a 10 or 11 years for them to get built. And so by the time we got them,

they were almost obsolete. But they're still around. They're still like 18 around and you can go see them throughout the city. Yeah, you'll, they look like radio antennas or something. There's like metal structures that are, I don't know, up in the air and they got light at the top of them.

It seems stupid now, because we have street lights everywhere, but I'm sure it was like revolutionary at the time. Yeah, it was supposedly a big game changer. But yeah. So yeah, but anyway, back to contemporary times, there's no way there's a serial killer. It's like, these are people, just drunk people who fall.

Yeah, no, of course, man, but isn't it fun to say Brodie at Killer? Brodie at Killer. Go back to Golden State Killer. Go back out of the water. That one got me. I thought that was so good. God, that's so good. People that are not are funny. Yeah, the serial killer thing is crazy to me.

When it's so obviously just drunk people falling into the water. Everybody loves the conspiracy. Yeah, one of the people I work with, I. Yeah, one of the people I worked with, I worked with, one of the people I worked with who I was talking to about the serving of a annihilator was trying to convince me as a serial killer saint, but don't you find it weird that they're just targeting

man, these are all men, it's like, what woman would be walking around drunk by herself? Yeah, along the water at night. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Right, let's critically thank for one second. Yeah, let's, wow, but this is so exciting. It's truly not. It's, that's a good point. Yeah. Right. Let's critically thank for one second. Yeah, let's.

Wow, but this is so exciting. It's truly not. It's a, it's really not. Yeah, it's also, yeah, whatever. Yeah. It's a good thing. What, so this bar on Rene Street, what was next to it?

Anything just condemn houses? Well, it wasn't condemn, there was someone living in the, there was somebody, for the first like five or six years of rainy street being a destination, there was still families living on the street. Yeah, yeah. And it sucked for them, I would imagine. And so I can't remember what was immediately right of Luster Pearl now. What's there now is a fucking hotel, I think.

But it was another house and probably a family living there, I don't know. Yeah. I was trying to think of Rany Street or Lustre Pearl stories. The one that I do remember, we used to come, especially back in the early days of when Roosh Teeth was kind of a new hot gimmick and it was still, like, still kind of freshen people were so excited about it.

So we would get a lot of visitors press, we'd get a lot of people from video game companies coming in, advertising agencies, and we would always have to wine and dye them. I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know. But we would always end up taking them, you know, we'd go at the Salt Lake or whatever, but we would always take them to Luster Pearl. So this was the bar we took people to when they would come from out of town early on, because it was like this cool growing area, it was kind of neat, it was kind of happening, and it wasn't like insanely crowded yet, you know?

And so we would, it kind of became like our Friday night, like, oh, so, some of those in town, some of the aircade, let's go to fucking, let's go take him to Luster Pearl for a drink. And so we did that for years. We actually tried to, I might be getting the numbers wrong, so Gus can correct me, but we tried to rent Lester Pearl out for a South by party once. Maybe not even a South by party.

Maybe it was just a DVD release party. Something like that. We used to always rent this bar out called Bulma Caves. It's not there anymore. It's something else. It was on Red River. It's across from where the Red Eye fly was. I like any of those bars. They're all different now. Red seven? Red seven any of those bars. Yeah, they're all different now red seven

Red seven was down the road Yeah, you're right, but It was directly across from the red at fly and like what's that goth bar? Oh Elysium Elysium used to be the atomic cafe Elysium Anyway, so we tried to rent Lister Pearl out one time and I remember that it was gonna be $80,000. I don't, is that, do you think that's the thing? That sounds right. I don't remember the exact number, but that's insane.

It was an insane thing. If I had to guess it would be there. And I think Bummukhib just three grand. And we're like, it was a South by party. It was a South by? Yeah, it was, I do remember that. Yeah, so guess what, we had the party, Bummukhibs. And I think, I don't know how much we hung out

at Lister Pearl after that, honestly. There's also another place on Lester. I feel like Rainy Street could shit on a lot by locals, I feel like, but I should say, there's a restaurant on Rainy Street that's pretty good still called Bangers. It has sausages and hot dogs. And if you do wanna go check out Rainy Street

and have a decent bite to eat while you're there, there's some other good restaurants there too. There's a Mexican restaurant whose name escapes me. That's pretty good. But bangers is a real easy way to go in and have a couple beers and drink a hot dog. They have, you can get modifiers to your hot dogs. They have BYOF peppers.

I highly recommend those. It's burn your face off or BYFO peppers burn your face off peppers They're really hot and really good and it's the only place. I've ever been to in Texas that you can buy Well peanuts. Oh, I hate oil peanuts. Yeah, they're right there. So they're good. They have spicy bull peanuts Did you know also Jeff likes circus peanuts, which is like, the orange candy thing? That's it. The worst candy in the world. Yeah, I like doing peanut. It all really tracks.

It all really is. I like doing peanut. Mr. Peanut, boiled peanut, whatever you want. Circus peanut, ugh. Disgusting. Peanut, peanut, peanuts, the cartoon. Have you always, have you always liked spicy food? No, I just thought I liked spicy food? No, I just started liking spicy food

until after I knew you. I feel like that was not Jeff initially. No, I abhorred in spicy food until I was about 32. And then my brain just twitched. Said just switched one day. As a matter of fact, we were eating, I don't know if I was with you or one of my many wives or Frank or whoever, but I remember we were at the movies

and somebody had nachos with like K-so and jalapenos on it. And I just saw a jalapeno and I just knew I liked it. I never liked them from my life and I picked it up and I ate it and I just want more of these and then I was off to the right. That's a good start because I feel like movie jalapenos are so mild and and such an easy way to just like step into that kind of stuff.

And then it was like three months later, I was like, tears of joy once a week trying to find and then I discovered, then I discovered our friend Adam and he quickly taught me that I don't have a tolerance for spicy food like I thought I did. Yeah. That there are different levels. Yeah.

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i9 processors. Do you ever have you ever eaten at the spin of spicy food? Have you ever eaten at that Mexican restaurant over in Hyde Park called Julios. I picked up food from there the other day and I've been going there for years. And cash only. No, they take card now. Did they? Yeah, finally.

Shit's annoying. And yeah, it was really not. It's just like an ATM outside their fucking place. It's still there, but yeah, they find a take card. But I was sitting down waiting for my food. And despite the fact I've been going there for years, I never really paid attention and you still found the walls.

Like I know they have like some pictures of politicians and like who get food there. But like I was waiting for my food, I looked over and there was like an old newspaper article from like 18, 15 years ago or something on the wall. So I just kind of started reading it while I was waiting for my food. And it was all like the history of Julios.

And I never really thought about it. So it was interesting to read. They've been around for 40 years. They opened in 1983. And I guess they opened up in Clarksville initially. They were over like at 10th and Westlin. And they didn't move to Hyde Park till 1990. So seven years in.

And so I was just reading it and I discovered, it's how if you've been there, it's always like the same woman who's working there and maybe like the guy who I assume is her son. And I guess she started the restaurant with her husband at the time, but then they got divorced in 2006 and Julio is his name.

Like the restaurant's named after him and I guess she's still, she's still works in the restaurant. Oh, wow. But I guess she's still, she's still, works in the restaurant. Oh, wow. But I guess it's for sale, I saw. Oh, really? Yeah, I saw online. I don't know if it's still, there's a couple of weeks ago,

I was like looking online and I saw, I guess she's trying to retire. She's looking to sell the business after 40 years, which is a hell of a run. That is a hell of a run. It is interesting, because they now, Kura's opened up across, like literally across the street from it.

Kura's is not good. Oh, dude, I disagree. I like Kura's. But the thing with Julio's and the thing I always appreciated about it, and they talk about this in that article that I read in the restaurant, is they have a very limited menu. That's always been their approach.

It's like, they're just going to make a few things and they're going to focus on that and they're going to make those good. It's not like a fucking Bible of menu. It's just like, a laminated piece of paper front and back. The menu doesn't have a spiral bound. Right. You're not going to the cheesecake factory. So it's like really quality, really, really fresh stuff, really good.

And I hope after it's, I hope it sells. I hope she gets everything she wants. And I hope after it sells that whoever buys it doesn't fuck it sells. I hope she gets everything she wants. I hope after it sells that whoever buys it doesn't fuck it up. Oh man. Maybe, well, you know, it's, yeah. I'm trying to think of the other places over there that I, so where Kuras is used to be mothers,

they're placed sucked. And so it was a better place for us. It was a vegetarian or vegan restaurant. I wasn't very good. And then people that said, people that loved it, but they, I don't know why. There was a little coffee shop bar over there called Dolce Vita and that became uncle Nicky's.

And I think that's better than it was. Yeah, I like that. I like that spot. I like that spot. You go, they have like a little happy hour thing and it's like, it's great for like a little cheese thing and a little Italian soda and whatever. I think it's like cool little spot for that.

And that's like right next to Hyde Park Bar and Grill. Yes, yes. And speaking of which, we should probably do an episode over there at the Quacks coffee shop. Oh, that's a good idea. I hadn't thought about Quacks. Cost-re from Fresh Plus. Yeah.

Because I lived in that neighborhood for 13 months when my house was getting renovated and with Gavin and I get tons of stories. And tons of stuff we can talk about. Put it on the list. Yeah. Yeah, there's only two hide park bar and girls, right? There's that one and then there's the one down

like by Westgate. Yeah, it's over like, yeah, by Westgate. I don't know why, the, yeah. It's like where the old alligator grilles to be, right? Kind of over there. Oh, it's kind of in the parking lot of that central market down there. Is that where it is? Yeah. Okay. The old alligator grill is like there. Oh, it's kind of in the parking lot of that central market down there. Is that where it is?

Yeah. Okay. The old alligator grill is like for that. Yeah, for the, yeah, little north of there. Yeah, that's a place like they're known for their fries and that sauce on them. I'm thinking of a curvy lane that's over there. Okay. Yeah, but you're right, there is a headpark down there.

Yeah. I've never gotten the sauce. I mean, I've gotten it, but I don't understand it. It's fine. Same. At that place, I've never it, but I don't understand it. It's fine. That's the same. At that place, I've never understood the appeal of that place. Yeah, I've never got decent food. It's whatever, it's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. Yeah. It's fine, but it's not like standing a line to eat. Oh no, God no. Yeah. But it's a decent place. I've never said more lines for food than I have

since living in Austin. Yeah, you'll do that. What the fuck? Didn't used to be that way. I mean, people love lines here. God, they love them. They can't wait to line up for an hour to get barbecue. The funny thing too, it's like just wait six weeks

till that restaurant isn't hot anymore. Absolutely. Absolutely. The line will just move to the next restaurant. There's some places I don't get though. They always have a line perpetually. Okay. Like, it's not even like a though. They always have a line perpetually. Okay. Like, it's not even like a local business,

but that snooze brunch place, that's over like a little more than 35. Dude, I always have a line. Dude, I don't understand what's in there. There's two of those places and they're both brutal. It's a fine place to take a parent who's in from out of town to get breakfast. And beyond that, I don't know why you would ever wait.

I feel that way about Magnolia Cafe. Okay. Why would there ever be a line out from one of the Magnolia Cafe? There's only one of those left now, right? There's just one that I'm aware of on South Congress. The one on Lake Austin is a tumble 22. Yeah.

Honestly, I feel that way about Kirby Lane. Like, if a place is open 25 hours a day, you shouldn't have to wait. Nope, I agree. Yeah. What, when you think of Kirby Lane, well't have to wait. Nope, I agree. Yeah. What, when you think of Kirby Lane, well, there's just a two-part question. Okay.

What's the first Kirby Lane you went to? And when you think of Kirby Lane, what's the location that pops to mind? Kirby Lane. The one on Kirby Lane. That's the first one I went to. And it's the only one I think of. Okay.

I sometimes go to the one in Mewler, just because when we were staying over there, I could walk to it. It's really close to the studio too. Yeah, and so I've eaten there a few times. Sometimes I meet RT people that for breakfast pretty rarely. The first one I ever went to is a weird one.

It's the one that used to be off 183. It's like way out there. It's like where crispy cream is. Way up north. Yeah. Over where like the catfish parlour is. Yeah, like over there. Really?

There used to be a curbulane over there. And that's the first one I went to for some reason. I don't know why. Probably with call center people, way back in the day. But the one I always think of for some reason is the one that used to be down on South Lamar where Gordo's was. Yes.

I used to eat there all the time when I worked. After I left the call center when I worked downtown, I'd have like really late nights or really early morning. So I'd always like just drive down Congress, go down there and eat at weird hours, because it was a 24 hour place. Oh, speaking of 24 hour places, when's the last time you thought about cats as deli?

I was just talking about cats as deli the other day, with Emily. We were eating over at favorite pizza, and we were just trying to cross from there. And we tried to cross from there. Yeah, we tried to cross from there. And we were walking, we were just walking down six feet. And I was trying to remember which building it was. I couldn't remember.

It's like Cady Corner to favorite pizza. Yeah. Yeah. Katz's deli is an interesting one. It was like a, it was like a, it was just a deli, right? Like a Jewish deli. And I feel liated with the very famous New York City Katz's deli. Yeah.

Same family, same. Oh, it was. Yeah. It's like a branch Delhi. And affiliated with the very famous New York City, Katz's Delhi, same family, same. Yeah, like a branch of it. And they always had like a yellow Cadillac parked out for us. And their big slogan was Katz's never closes. Yes. Okay. And it was just like a 24 hour deli. It was there weren't, I feel like there weren't many decent 24 hour places back then.

It was like either that or star seat or yeah, you that or star seat. It was another place that or StarSea. Or, yeah, you have that or StarSea. It was another place that like in the late 90s, early 2000s would have a line out front of it all the time. Yeah, and so I very rarely went there because I never wanted to wait in line back then. I only ate there like a handful of times. The interesting thing about cats is, deli to me is there's that dude,

they do the random Mark cats, ran from mayor. I forgot about that, yeah. And he did this whole thing where he got all of his constituents and they marched from Katz's up six street then down Congress to the capital so that he could file to run from mayor. But he got the day wrong and he was early by like two days and so it was all useless. And that he couldn't actually fill out the application because he was fucking he read the days wrong or something or he didn't pay attention and it was like a huge embarrassment and he did not do well in the in it doesn't bode well for you or I'm in attention to detail

guy and it was honestly it wasn't that much longer than suddenly cats wasn't around anymore it was there for a long time and then just like kind of unceremoniously it was just gone. Austin institution that just like overnight was gone. Yeah, it's fine. Nobody talks about it anymore. God, I went there a bunch of times. I felt like I never really had to wait and lighten a go there. I felt like anytime I tried to go it was like, yeah, it was brutal.

That's where I was when the 2000 presidential election got called. Oh, no, was it? Yeah, yeah, the Bush-Gor one. Really? Yeah, I was sitting at the bar at Katz's. I was getting something to drink, and I remember they had a TV behind the bar there, and that's when they finally called it. Like after all, the lawsuits and everything, and they're like, all right, this is it.

Finally, we're done. It was like two months after the election, or something. It was like, all right, this is it. Finally, we're done. You know, it was like two months after the election of something, it was like, George Bush will be the president of the United States. 2000 damn. So I guess it might have been late 2000, early 2001 by that point when it was finally called. What a weird little memory.

It's a weird memory. It's a weird memory. It's a weird place that is not there. I just remember it finally happening and thinking, I'm gonna remember this. Like, this is your remember where we were when we saw Obama get inaugurated? No.

We were at bikinis. I think, on sixth grade. We worked with someone who loved that place and was always pulling us to go there. Really? Had a good burger. I do remember. Great, cool man.

Yeah, we watched Obama. That place is gone now, though. Take it, take it, take it, and go on. I'm a good burger. I do remember. Great, cool man. Yeah, we watched Obama. That place is gone now, though. Take it, take it, take it, and go on. I'm gonna remember this. It's a big piece of shit. Not your ass, it's cool. Oh, that's awesome. We're down, we're,

We were also walking to bikinis the day that the miracle on the Hudson, when that plane went down to the Hudson River. Oh shit, you're right. You're walking down Congress. Yeah, it's like, Jesus Christ, guys. What are the bik, when that plane went down to the Hudson River. Oh, shit! You're right. You're walking down Congress. It's like, for me. Yeah.

Jesus Christ, guys. What are the bikini memories do you have? That's insane. That's just us, too. It was significant days in American history. We're at about the 40-minute mark, so I do want to do this one flu. I do want to talk a little bit about the coffee and everything,

but particularly, a little luster pearl building, everything, but particularly, the Luster Pearl building, because while I was ordering coffee and you talked about it earlier, you guys did the little hands behind the back, walk around and poke around or whatever. Is it what you remember it? It's identical. Is it really?

I think it was like, yeah. That's why I kept looking around. It was really weird. Even being in the backyard is a bit of a mind-fuck. Really? Yeah, I mean, because it's like walled in, but it still feels like looking in the back of the building and it has like the fake grass,

it still kind of, it still feels like we're on rainy streets. Yeah, I haven't been in that building since it was on rainy, so it's probably been 15, 20 years maybe. Yeah. Since I've been in that building and it's still walking in, be like, oh, this is identical. I remember everything now. Yeah. I mean, you guys were really like you survey oh, this is identical. I remember everything now. Yeah.

I mean, you guys were really like you surveyed like the whole thing. It was a trip. And then walked out back and then looked at it and then came back in. So weird. And it was like, usually when we order coffee, it's just kind of like hanging around the little spot

and then we walk in and I just, I looked and I'm like, other gone. Lots of, it's like a, it's almost like a, you could really defend yourself from zombies here. They have it like a, would you say a 12 foot tall concrete wall around the entire perimeter of the place? That would wall.

You can't see it from the road. That this wooden fence is a weak point though. Yeah, no, it's okay, it's concrete. It's tall. It's tall on the other side. So you're okay. And this is just separating the bar from the coffee shop, I think.

And then they've, also people have painted a lot of cool art on it. There's a lot of really good art There's a very big dog that's what I keep looking at is a leelon stitch over there There's some like a gibbly stuff. You can kind of see the top of the no-face There's some like really cool art again. This is a very cool. I like this bar. I've been here dozens of times at this point and just sort of like, you hang out in the front. There's like a little, uh, so like the bars at one side and then the old building that was on rainy's on the other side. There used to be nothing inside of it and we would just hang out in there because no one would come in or whatever. But there's

like a little front area. There's like a lot of seating. There's a lot of space. Possums running everywhere at night, using straight cats and possums like crazy around here. Cause it's just in the middle, like, Cesar Travas and the tons of trees and little buildings and stuff. The river. Yeah, I mean, there's just a ton of stuff like right here.

It's a great little spot for a bar, parking is easy, it's great. Yeah. I really, I like this bar. What did you think of the coffee? Cause Jeff had some thoughts on the coffee last time. I thought my Mercano was good, it was a little bitter. Okay.

It was a problem I had with it, but it was fine other than that. When I came here two Sundays ago and had a black coffee cause they were out of ice coffee, it was pretty bad. It was like, I'd give it like a four or a five. My ice coffee today is a seven. Okay. I'd probably go with a four or a five. My ice coffee today is a seven. Okay. I'd probably go with seven.

It's definitely seven in terms of like the cup of coffee that I had is by no means bad. But of all the places that we've gone to, this is an up place where I'd be like, you gotta come here for the coffee. It's all come here for the drinks where they have like a spicy Paloma and like that's, that's what I hear for. I just like a Paloma. And Tater Tots.'s what I hear for. I just like Paloma.

And Tater Tots. So there's a Luster Pearl South as well. Yeah, been there. I was there on Wednesday. Where is that? You know, Armadillo, Dan is. No, this is all, you're not gonna know anything. Oh, okay.

Well, there's a stretch of bars down, you just keep going down what like, main check or what? South of slaughter. Yeah. Oh, really far. Like on the way to main check where it of slaughter. Yeah. Oh, really far on the way to manchak where it is. It's way down there. I've, um, I've some friends that live

down that way. And one of them told me, Hey, we're at this bar. It's Lester Pearl. And they're going to do a yacht rock night on Wednesday. And I went, what's fucking go? So we went and there's a band playing

some yacht rock songs and they were trying their best. And I had a good time. Is it in the cute old house like this? Or is it? No, it in a cute old house like this or is it? No, it's actually, it's like two bar. I didn't think about that. It's two buildings like this and then a huge backyard

and then like three food trucks. Like we got like some tacos and then had a few drinks and just kinda hung out and like listen to this band play, Logins and Messina. It was like, it was a good time. I really like that bar. I've been a handful of times. They do a, like a flea market

on like the first week of the month I think, that it's like takes over like the whole back yard and it's really cool. A lot of local artists and stuff. But it is so far, it is so far to get like, Yeah, that's far. God damn, it's so far to get down there. So it is a rarity.

It's where we used to work. God damn, we were driving and driving down to scene in Tony, you know, to go to this Brahms game. And as we're kind of cruising, cruising, cruising, we get way down there in Jeff goes and this is where we used to work when we were doing coming down to Buda. Oh my, my wife went this is like the used to work when we were doing coming down to Buda and my wife went, this is like the 219.

And my wife went, what the fuck? It sucked. It sucked. It's a lot of driving. But then you guys moved the office and everyone was thrilled to be there. It was to be fair, it was only a lot of driving for everybody but one person.

Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then after a while he had to drive a little bit too. Oh, man. So, that's the coffee. It's a luster pearl.

I think I would recommend this place for a drink. I don't know if I'd recommend it for coffee, but I do think it's a cool little bar. The fine cup of coffee. Yeah, that's fun. It's better than what I had the experience I had two weeks ago. Yep, for sure. It's better than fraydose.

God, yeah. We're reading one-star reviews of places on the way back from CNN, Tonyo. And that was one that I asked for. And it was all of our complaints in a one star review. Emily created this fun game where she just like, where's the last restaurant you ate at? And then we would all say. And then she would read the find the one star review on Yelp of it.

Yeah, very funny. It's very good. I speaking of similar games, I started looking up health inspection scores for restaurants. Oh. Which was fun. And the reason I started doing this is because I wanted to get food from a restaurant I like going to and it was closed by the department of health. Where?

You can leave it out of me. Say it. Really? Yeah. The one on. Yeah. Oh, we ordered from there a lot. F***ing. Really? With the one on F***ing. Yeah. Wait that part out. We order from there a lot. Oh no.

It's what you can't do right now. So I started looking around at different restaurants across all around town. Nick, edit that. Nick, that's like, it's like one of Emily's favorite restaurants. Oh no. I'm sure you've worn her.

Oh no. Let's get to the anarchy me and you may, anything segment where you guys send in prompts for Questions for these guys. I think this is a good one Okay, what do you think before you get to that? I just say absolutely I haven't talked to you about this. I talked to Eric about it Somebody and I don't remember who it was. I don't what do we call the in the in the enmer's Enmer's enmer's some anmer Call the Ann-Ann-Murse. Ann-Murse.

Ann-Murse. Some Ann-Mur, some Ann-Mur had an idea that I thought was brilliant, which is that because Gavin has been talking about one to hang out on his front porch more as we got more of like an environment to sit at. We have to do this. We should do an episode of Ann-Murse on Gavin's front porch. That's a great idea. We show up on the announce.

Maybe we talked to Meg ahead of time. Yeah. And then we just show up, knock on the door, Gavin has to make us coffee. And then we just sit and do it on his front porch. Or we don't even tell them. And we just show up and coffee and do it and see if I like that. I like that more. So we have to do that soon. Sorry. So any of the anti-community. We have Anne Merman and Anne Mermie.

Yeah. There you go. Jesus Christ. Here's a prompt question from Dom or 33. Great name. I'd love to know more about how Gustavos and Jeff's definition of success has changed over the last 25 or 30 years, and if they have anything they'd like to happen in their professional lives prior to retiring, that they haven't done yet. I think that's very interesting, because I think your definitions of success have definitely changed at least over the last 10 years or the last 20 years.

I don't know about Jeff, but for me, I think the bar was really low initially. I think when, after moving to Austin, kind of settling into working at the call center and the life we were living at the time, I just wanted to have fun. And I think the thing I said the first time we started making websites together is I wanted to get recognized in public,

which was a dumb thing to say. We wanted to get rich off the internet. We wanted to get famous off the internet. Yeah. We said yeah. It was like a really, especially at the time, like a weirdly ignorant thing to say. Yeah.

Not knowing how things were gonna go. Right, but it's like, it's super unique to think that the internet would. Would lead to that. Right? Yeah, it was just such a, yeah, it was just a, it's hard to explain unless you were there for it, but it was a really surreal time,

because there was like, there was this amorphous thing the internet that was all possibility, all rolled up into one, and you just had to figure out how to navigate it, and you could feel it. You could feel that success was around every corner for people that knew how to find it. You could feel it. You could feel that success was around every corner for people that knew how to find it. And it was insane. I would say my definition of success has definitely changed.

I have had many, I guess, arrows of this career. And when I first started, I would have defined success as being able to quit our day jobs to do it full time. There was probably at one point when I thought success would be to have a mansion and retire early. Now for me, success is honestly, like when you strip it all the way,

I had to create bucket lists because I kept running through bucket lists, you know? Like getting to see RVB on an iMac's theater. Like that's fucking surreal. You do that in your three, you got 17 years to go. You gotta figure out other shit to do, other shit to run out of football team, right? Like that was never on my list,

but now we have to do that. That's so cool. So, success for me now is getting to make what I wanna make every day. Like getting to make whatever, getting to be creative in whatever way that makes sense and just having the freedom to do that. This podcast and f*** face. Success for me is that I do those, and I can still pay the bills. You know, and I guess that's really what it blows down to.

It's like when you strip it all the way, when you get past the idea of fame and accolades and like resume building things that you get to do those, I think it gets to learn all the time early on, especially in the career. It's like, well, you should do that event because it's a resume. Yeah.

You should do that because it looks good for your next thing, you know? And you're just trying to build this body of impressive accolades so that people will respect you, I guess, or give you more opportunity. But past all that, now, it's just like, just getting paid to have a cup of coffee with my best friend of 30 years.

And got six. Yeah. Making a resume, man. I can't remember the last time I made a resume. That would be really funny. Yeah, I think at this point, I'm actually really jealous of something that Bernie has done that I want to do. Okay.

I want to be able to get to a point where I can also step away and know the company's gonna continue. That we've fostered that next generation appropriately and that people will get to a point where they don't need to talk to me about something or I don't need to be worried about anything. And I want to be able to get to that point. I'm not saying I'm gonna do that. They just said before retirement.

Yeah. I'm just kinda like draw that line out and think about leaving things and what the lasting legacy will be. Ultimately, I would like to disappear. That's the end goal of this is when we're done with all of our stuff, is that I wanna walk away and walk away. Social media goes away.

There's little social media that I have left and maybe, like, I don't know, I could maybe do a podcast with Gavin for the rest of my life, but outside of that, like just being, I would like to return to being invisible the way it was before we started all this. Yeah. I really would.

That's why I say it's kind of funny now to think about the initial goals. You want the same thing, right? Absolutely. You want people to forget about any of this. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Interesting. I see, that's a good prompt. That's a, I would expect it's that's quality from a Dumber fan. That's absolutely. Yeah. It's a Dumber yeah yeah uh he was like I ate a professor last night he was full of ideas and you know I will all say this I'll say this as well especially in my late 40s uh those ideas of success get reformulated pretty constantly you know I make you'll totally different tomorrow. Yeah. So that's good.

Um, I think that'll do it for Anima. This is a good one. It was fun. It was fun. We are, we're going to be at RTX July 7th through 9th. Uh, we're going to have a live show. So you should definitely come. Yeah.

We'll have a cup of coffee. We'll have a little chat. And then, um, we keep talking about it, but I do want to try to figure out how we can take this somewhere. Um, I think we should go to Florida. You guys, when was the last time you went to Florida? I went to Florida probably in 2018. Oh, you know, it was the same day as the parkland shooting.

I was in Florida when that happened. Oh, Jesus Christ. What the fuck? I've been like a thousand times with Jack in the last two years. Yeah, there you go. So I'm happy to go back. I think we go. We find a coffee spot. I think that would be pretty cool of years. Yeah, there you go. So I'm happy to go back. I think we go, we find a coffee spot.

I think that would be pretty cool. We find something down there and hang and do a live show. We got to do a live show. We got to do a live show. We'll have one in Austin, July 7th, rtx austin.com. Yeah, it's available now. So you can go get tickets, you can come see us,

come hang out, we doing stuff for fuck face, we doing stuff for face jam. So come out, say hey, and... But that's all the way in July. Right now, what you can do is follow us, like, Animo podcast on Twitter and on Instagram. You see photos from this episode, every other episode. Trying to think of the number of episodes that we've done

since we've had to do a Gus break, and I think this might be the eighth. Oh, okay. So the next two I think are going to be, when is the count? Supplemental content. If next week there's a regular episode, that means I was off.

But if next week is a supplemental episode and the week after is a supplemental episode, that means that we're on a Gus break and we will be returning to you very shortly with new episodes of ANMA, because again, those are non-canon episodes. And if it is a supplemental episode, it will be experimental.

That's okay. It's the point. Yeah, break them old. I, anarchy, like a goat. Like a goat, classic goat-styleies. Go to anarchy. Yeah. If you listen to the supplement all episodes

and you go, I don't like this. Does not bother me whatsoever. Just know that those are not the episodes of this podcast. Those are supplemental episodes. That surely we do not have to do, that's all. Yeah. You can do whatever you want with those. So follow us at Animo Podcasts on Twitter, on Instagram.

You can go to our slash Animal Podcasts and you can, there's always a great thread where people are leaving their suggestions where I pulled Don Mer, Don Mer, Don Mer's question. So check it out. You go see what we're up to and come on out to RTX. Guys, any parting words, if we're gone for the next few weeks, I mean what

they could be the end. It's not. It's not though. Thanks for listening and we hope you'll continue to listen because it's not the end. Come on RTX get some coffee. Yeah. There you go. See you there.

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