ANMA - Geoff & Eric at Vidcon

Episode Date: July 4, 2022

Good morning, Gus. You're at home but Geoff & Eric are at Vidcon for this special bonus episode of ANMA. Get the low down on old stories, Anaheim, why not to go to Augusta, and more. We'll have another bonus episode next week then return with a new season of regular episodes. Tell a friend about ANMA and have them take a guess at the name. Maybe one of them will get it. Probably not. This episode is sponsored by Dad Grass (http://dadgrass.com/anma). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I know, I guess I must have. But I know some ERICKs. There are ERICKs, but that's like, it feels rare to ERICK is very weird. Everywhere, I don't think I ever have my name spelled right, not just my first name, my last name, spelled right anywhere I go. I don't know that I could spell

your last name right right now. Try. B-A-D-O-U-R. Good job, no. No. No. How was the B-A-U? B-A-U? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine, everyone is there. No. How was the BAU? BAU?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine, everyone's like. Well listen, I'm a, I, I, I, I sympathize. I've been a G. Jeff my entire life. Yeah, it was an ab, at first day of school was an absolute tragedy in seven parts every year. Cause every class, it was a G-Off, God-free, I got God-free so much.

How? It's like, there's no D. There's no D. Yeah, the EO, it doesn't make a sound, right? I got Gary a few times. That's insane. I got the worst I ever got was my 10th grade biology teacher, yeah, and Nismakoi. She, I've told some stories about her in the past

in other places. She called me Gilford. What the fuck? Yeah, 10th grade, I got called Gilford, and that became a nickname. Wow. It didn't make it outside the 10th grade before I was. No, I mean, yeah, I know I get that.

That makes sense. Gil, oh, my last name was Finkback then too, right? Oh, right. I wish I fucking hated. So not only did she, I forgot about this, not only did she get turned Jeffrey into Gilford, she turned Fink into Firk. So I was Gilford Firk.

What the fuck? That Firk might be an improvement though, on Fink. It's definitely an improvement. So I get, who does to that part? Man, that's crazy. So we're in Anaheim. This is like a bonus episode thing because we're off for two weeks

because we're a seasonal podcast, I guess. You wanna get into, it get behind the weeds on the intercacies of how this stuff happens. Right. Some of us wanted to be a seasonal podcast. Right. And some of us didn't. On a be a seasonal podcast.

Are some of us who didn't recording right now? Yes, they are. But we acquiesce to the divas of the group. So people have to have their way and that's okay. And they're not here to defend themselves, so get them. Yeah, so we're in Anaheim for VidCon because we're both content creators. And VidCon brought to you by TikTok. Oh, it's been weird so far.

Yeah, so we're recording this in my hotel room at the Hyatt, yeah, Regency. Now, not because we wanted to, we did a loop around the whole compound, trying to find anywhere. Compound's a good word for. Yeah. It's a way too much audio texture. There was, and too much visual vomit.

There was a lot to look at and listen to, and none of it was good for this show or for us as human people. No. We were talking about VidCon as sort of a, like an idea, like as a convention or whatever, because it was always a YouTube thing. And now it's a TikTok thing, which makes sense.

I mean, that's definitely, that's like the predominant social media at the moment. But you can see the people who are here at Jeff is at the content creator hotel, the talent hotel. It's like close to the public. It is. Oh, we had to go walking in circles to find out where to get a badge.

It took me, I was able to help you get through it because I suffered through yesterday. It took me about 40 minutes from getting dropped off. Insane. At the hotel to getting through security yesterday. You just, with my bags and shit. You can't get into, like we're not saying you can't get into parts of the hotel.

You can't get into like we're not saying you can't get into parts of the hotel. You can't get into the hotel lobby anywhere into the hotel without we're wearing two wristbands in a badge. Yeah. That's crazy. It's like presidential security. It truly is. Yeah. Because if we lose any of these TikTok creators, God forbid, what would we do? Who would who would mimic a dance of mimicking a dance? I don't know. It's been so much, it's been such a, I'd buy like, good morning Eric. I mean, wherever you are in the world, good morning Gus.

I hope you're having a great day and you're thinking of me, like we're thinking of you. It has been so much fun because I've been here for a day already. By the way, I'm here with my peers, the content creators. Oh yes, they're all like, you know, like, it's like, I don't know if you've ever watched

the TV show on HBO Max called The Other Two, but it's about this brother and sister whose younger brother is essentially Justin Bieber, whose name's Chase Dreams. It's like everything that's funny and a parody of that show is going on in this hotel right now. It's, I'm 10 years younger than you and everyone that we were just in the elevator with was 13 years younger than me. And they're all probably rich. Yes. And super successful.

They are chasing clout and doing it successful. Kudos to them. Yeah, wait a minute. This is exhausting. This has probably been something on their calendar for a while. Like, oh my god, I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. And I've been looking at this on my calendar going, okay, let's

utter dread. Let's go to Anime. I've been, I've maintained a good attitude about it. And I've just been kind of bemused by the whole thing. Yeah. But where I was getting it earlier is my favorite thing so far on this trip has been probably the 25 minutes that I just spent walking around with you, trying to find a place to record and watching watching your

Honest facial reactions to everything you were seeing was highly entertaining. I have a hard time holding that stuff back Where it's like maybe I won't say anything, but I have a hard time like keeping like a poker face when I'm so Like like stunned by what I'm saying we walked to a Pool that was owned by Facebook that just had like translucent rings. You could take pictures next to two lifeguards in like an above ground pool. We took a photo, so be sure to post that.

Yes, oh yeah, I will see that. You could order ice cream and popcorn. I think that there was, we went to a corner where we thought it was gonna be quieter. It only got louder. And then there was a guy air-brushing slides. Yeah, like, exactly as you would imagine, like palm trees and your name and shit. Yeah, which is cool, but I looked at it and went,

this doesn't happen instantly, I don't want this. Like, unless they went here, let me just, watch how fast I can spray paint a minion on this thing, like I don't want this thing. I went into with Sophie from our marketing department. She was giving me a little tour earlier and she was like, come in and get all the free stuff with me. And so I went into one of these lounges earlier

and I apologize, I don't remember who it was, but they just like, you write down your name and your social handle and then they just let you shop for clothes. What? You just like, go get some free clothes. your social handle, and then they just let you shop for clothes. Why? You just like, go get some free clothes. So I got like a sweatshirt and sweatpants for my girlfriend.

Oh, I should go do that. Yeah, you should. That's downstairs. Yeah, you can get in there for free. I can do it with this fucking badge that they said maybe. Yes, you can do that. Okay, I guess it says maybe. Or you can have my badge, cause I don't need it anymore.

I think you, oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, just a reminder. Oh, now we're thinking. You won't be able to get back in your hotel. Oh yeah, that's good for us. We can just trade. We'll see what happens. Yeah, let's just have that.

Oh yeah, yeah. So anyway, as a part of this, that's just to give you a little context for where we are while recording this. And what's going on in the world. I just did my industry panel, which is. Oh yeah, that's right. It's the, I don't remember what the exact title was,

but it was basically like the video podcaster here and they're here to stay. And so it was me and a person from the Roost, our podcast network. I'm a guy who has three audio podcasts. Yeah. I thought that that was. I'm out here. I'm literally speaking on one tomorrow about how to break through and podcasting and I'll

Hey, if you're listening to this, I'll just save you a trip to the panel just be consistent and then Have more than just a podcast. There you go. Thanks for coming. They used saved 59 and a half minutes. Wait a Go it feels like it really like I'm it's nice. It's cool that they want to hear what you have to say about this stuff, but I was talking to Maggie 64 yesterday. I flew in to San Diego before coming to Anaheim. Are they it that come? Fuck no, absolutely not.

We talked about what it is to speak on these panels or whatever, because they've done things like this, Derek from Maggie 64 teaches some stuff. And he was saying, I have these classes where people go, I have a YouTube channel, how come it's not growing? What do I do? And he's like, well, you have to be consistent

and you have to find your audience. You have to go in with something to say. You can't just be like, I'm just gonna film myself. And these people are like diligently writing notes about, oh, wow, these are like, wow, this is great, great advice. And it's like, people don't intrinsically know that stuff and it's really weird because it feels like

that's not learned stuff that we had to do. It feels like that's just commonsense stuff. Like if you're consistent and you have something to say, you're gonna find something, but people are like, oh, I never thought of that. And that's weird to me. I, yeah, yeah, it is, it is, right? I feel like I've been saying this a lot lately

in almost every conversation I have, but I'm gonna say it's probably generational. Mm-hmm. And I think that what has gotten, which is my boomer, my Gen X explanation for this. I think what has gotten lost along the way in this confluence of social media and then brand and personal brand explosion

is the point of view, right? Like 20 years ago, when we started a rooster teeth when Mega 64 started, it was, I have an idea, and then you build on the idea and you try to figure out how to make it a reality. And I was, I have an idea and then you build on the idea and you try to figure out how to make it a reality. And I think, and I say unfortunately, I don't know if it's unfortunate or not, but I think the reality is now is that the in goal is just that to be a brand ambassador or an influencer

and the in goal is just to get to the very surface level Instagram lifestyle, right? Yeah. But somewhere along the way, the point of view that takes you there has completely and totally been missed. Yeah. I agree. Nobody has anything to say other than I want to go to hotels for free in the Caribbean. But I think that I can't necessarily fault people who make content for chasing that or doing that because that's the way content's consumed.

Like people want to watch that all day long. It's really no different than being, than kids, like middle school aged kids, in a backyard play and baseball with their friends. Yeah. They're not gonna make the major leagues. They're just emulating what they're seeing. Yeah.

I just think that the barrier to entry for social media and for, I guess, I don't know, influencer, what do you call celebrity? I guess it's just celebrity in general, has become so much lower and everybody has access to the same tools to do it that I think it just, it just seems like a natural thing that everybody tries now through the course of their growth

as a person. Yeah, I think that there's different avenues for different things too, right? Like you have Twitch, like a more gaming focused thing. You have Instagram, which is more of a lifestyle thing. TikTok's definitely like the Vine successor. There's different worlds for like these things and the way they kind of come and go is,

it's a life cycle of things, things hang on a little bit longer, but everything sort of goes by the wayside. And I feel like I'm seeing that now with YouTube and TikTok, like the changeover, right? Like YouTube sort of getting ousted. I'm sure they didn't want to do this anymore, whatever. Like they're in a totally different,

like tax bracket now. Like for better term. TikTok is definitely like a younger thing where you can get more one-on-one with creator than YouTube, I think, was. And so I think everyone trying these different avenues and finding success in different avenues just is the way the people consume content different ways. Talking into your phone works really well

for TikTok where it maybe doesn't work so well anymore for YouTube, right? Like it's an edited style and different things like that and you just sort of find that avenue and go for it until you get bored or make it a job. Ha, ha, ha. Eh, how did we end up doing an industry panel, right? No, no, no, no.

I don't know. This is better than what anyone's paying for, too. That is true. It's true. Whatever I'm going to say tomorrow, isn't nearly as good as this. By the way, congratulations, when it becomes a job, it's a fucking job.

Yeah, I think that's a really weird thing. I think a lot of people get this stuff young. A lot of people sort of find success at like a young age. You don't see like a lot of older influencers, right? You kind of, you get on when you're younger and sort of whatever. And I think a lot of people don't know if you make it a career, if you make it a job to work in podcasting or video or whatever. You might get hired at a young age and you don't know what it is to work a job. And so the complaints that you have, you think are sort of unique to what your little video

experiences. And then you go work at an actual, like a business and you go, oh, this is all jobs and you just have to like find the fun in like the little stuff like this. Like, yeah, I don't necessarily want to come to Anaheim and talk at the TikTok convention, but it affords me to go back to San Diego for a couple of to come to Anaheim and talk at the TikTok convention, but it affords me to go back to San Diego for a couple of days and see Anaheim for a little while

and do a little bit of like work and recon here. And that's like, it's fun. It's better than what I was doing working the seven other jobs I was doing before I did this, you know what I mean? Like speaking of Anaheim, Eric, I want to get into this for a second. Yeah, yeah. And this is kind of the direction I wanted to go with this supplemental episode in general, is not to change the subject at all, but when we were setting up earlier, you mentioned something that I had no idea about you, which is that you used to live in Anaheim. Oh, yeah. I was under the impression that until you worked at Rupertith, you lived every second of your life in San Diego.

Oh, that's funny. No. I was born and raised in San Diego and then all through high school was like, I gotta get out of San Diego. I got it like this is, I don't want to be here. Why? Because I didn't know. Because I didn't know other places. Okay. And so I thought San Diego was like this bubble and I'm like, I don't like it. And this is like these parts of town and bubble, but whatever. I didn't like certain aspects of it because I didn't know

any better, which is fine. You learn that with experience. So I applied to different CSU schools, Cal State University through here, Northridge, and in different places like that. I ended up at Cal State Fullerton. I had a junior college professor who said, I think you do well at Cal State Fullerton

because they have a great radio TV film, like Broadcast Program. Is that what you knew you wanted to do? Yeah, I knew I wanted to do that since like junior year of high school. Now, you say Cal State Fullerton, that's a college I've heard of. Yep. Is Fullerton a place? Fullerton is the next town over from the end of the year. Okay, so we're close to Fullerton. We are almost in Fullerton.

So I went to Cal State Fullerton and lived in Anaheim for five or six years. I was so cute. I was so cute that long to go to the other side. No, no, no, I was on the Tommy Boy plans. I went to Cal State Fullerton for about nine years. Now I went, I just kept living here because the rent was cheap. I found a house that was attached to a bail bonds place in Anaheim. It was a vegan punk house. Everyone was like very like anarchy focused vegan. We're all sort of like pulling

in the same direction, which is a good time. Very familiar with that scene. Yes. So that was really cool. That was most of my college experience. My room smelled like cat piss, so it was $400 a month to live in a room in a house. Across the street was a Marisco's place. It was right next to the first Carl's Jr. That's where I lived in Anaheim. It was right up the road from Harbor, or right up the road from where we are now on Harbor. So I would come down with my girlfriend at the time,

yeah, my girlfriend at the time. Yeah, my girlfriend at the time who we would just go to Disneyland because we had annual passes because they were so fucking cheap at the time. Hey man, thanks for the plug. Appreciate it. Yeah, check out annual pass, the podcast, and the thing you can buy at the amusement park.

So we just live here and just go to school. I worked at a zoo, I worked at an IT place, I worked at Pier 1 imports like weird shit. What did you do? First off, you worked at Pier 1 Import? I worked. That was my first job when I moved what my first job up in Orange County. When I was a kid in the 80s, Pier 1 Import was where fancy moms went to buy wicker. That's it was the exact same. That's exactly how it was when I worked there.

Yeah. It feels like a relic of the past, but I still have this reverence in my head for, for Pier one, because I just remember being like, that was where you would go, mom would go once a year to buy the good stuff. Yep, yep. The candles are on sale.

Yeah. Like it's that stuff. I was the only guy that worked there really. There was like, it was mostly women that worked there. I don't know why they hired me. And then quickly found out it was to lift everything to cars. And so my job pretty much was like, move everything to the front, like because it was like, okay, like make everything look good. And then when we have something heavy, we need you to like, lift it to the car. They got the right big strong

guy for that. Yeah, oh man. Yeah, I have some about 6, 8, 3, 50. It was just like, that was it. I hated that job. I was very bad at it. But I found an old radio that was in the back. So I would go to the back and I would listen to Padres games on AM and just wait until they called me to the front and then just go like, lift stuff put in cars. This episode's brought to you by Dad Grass.

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the ones you decide to make. Defy boundaries and start gaming now at Alienware.com. Next gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. You know, I was listening to a White Sox game on serious the other day. I have, there is a charm to listening to baseball on the radio. It really brings you back. When I was a kid, even in the early 80s and late, I don't really remember the 70s in that way, even I was there. But in the early 80s, I just remember

like my grandpa sitting on the back porch with a game on, you know, and it was just like such a commonplace thing. And it's kind of, it's almost, it's very whimsical. Yeah, I think that when the podries are in the playoffs, which is happening again, which is nice, I'll put on the last season's not over. Well, all right, let's calm down. Type for first.

We, I put on the AM broadcast. I'll put on like, well, I guess it's an FM broadcast now. But instead of listening to like the Fox broadcast because it's fucking dog shit, I'll listen to our local radio broadcast and because our local guys and it's like, oh, it's so much better. I love the pacing and the way that they kind of describe

without being over descriptive and like, let everything sort of breathe. It's nice, it's so much better. I love the pacing and the way that they kind of describe without being over descriptive and like, let everything sort of breathe. It's nice relaxing. Yeah. I like it a lot. But yeah, that was, I went to a lot of angels games when I was in Anaheim because it was right over here and good time. Oh, shit, I guess the angels are here, huh?

They are. They're playing showy otani's somewhere among us right now. Yeah, they're playing at home. They're at home this weekend. So you can go see Mike Trout and show. Go see him out. Oh, yeah. Not Rendon, he's hurt.

Don't worry about that. He's hurt for the rest of the year, right? Yeah, he's out. He's out. That's out. They're in second place with the Rangers. That's how bad the Rangers are. They just had to lose 13 games to tie them for second.

Jesus. The masters are winning that division. So, so you lived here for six years. Yeah, five or six years. Did you like Anaheim? I liked where I lived. I was in San Diego a lot because I was working with Make64. Like I was doing the podcast on the weekends

and drive down and do video stuff and whatever. So like I wasn't in Anaheim a ton, but I worked here and I did stuff here and it was fine. I liked the people that I lived with. I have a little pizza tattoo on my ankle because my roommate was this guy Ian who would just smoke so much weed and play Call of Duty zombies for hours.

And he would just go, dude, I'm gonna give myself a stick and poke. And then he gave himself a stick and poke of this little pizza thing. So I always told him, I'm gonna get the same stick in poke. And then he gave himself a stick in poke of this little pizza thing. So I always told him, I'm gonna get the same thing. So I got the same, I have a friend, Richard, who gave me a stick in poke of the same pizza. So I have cool stories from that,

but by and large, no, like North Orange County's kind of, like it's kind of shitty. So what's shitty, how? Cause I'm California ignorant. All of the money is in South Orange County. When you were talking about the OC, that's all South Orange County. That's all Laguna, that's all Dana point.

That's where the TV shows are. That's where the TV shows are. Oh, I did an event, a charity event in Dana point once. That was a rich fucking area. Holy shit. Yeah, that's where all the, that's the coast and you're asking where the beach is from here and I know about 25, 30 minutes. Okay, we're not close.

We're in this is inland shit like is this called the inland empire? No, inland empire is more east from here in the further east. Yeah, it was like an inland surf them. Yes, in so this is all of Orange County and then you keep going east. You take the 91 and you keep going east until you hit Riverside, and you start seeing people who are like taking their dads, like their step-dads, dirt bike on jumps that they built in the back of the high school. Like that's, Inland Empire is where monster energy drink comes to fruition.

Okay. It's a lot of the metal militia. A lot of fox racing and meth. Like a lot of punk bands come from there. A lot because there's nothing, there was, I mean, now it's nicer than it was, but there's fucking nothing out there, dude. Really?

Nothing out there. It was a dump. Like Riverside was it. It was called Inland Empire. Like you go north of that and you're in like, you're kind of like in the high desert where it's even like, messy year, it's like worse. And so it's really something.

It's like lizard people, but not in the way where it's like QAnon. Like lizard people like where you are at the 7-11 in the shade and you have to go run to like the target. So instead of like driving you like skitter across the parking lot. There's a place like that in Texas called Turlingua. Oh really? Yeah, you may have seen like, you'll see them now that you're here, not that I've mentioned it, but you'll see a lot of Viva Turlingua bumper stickers around Texas. That's like, it's like the place where serial killers go to disappear.

It's like the place where serial killers go to disappear. It's like, it's not right. Yeah, yeah. But like, that's all shades of Southern California. I think Southern California is fucking incredible. I like, being from here was really special. Like, I'm really lucky and I know that now. But it's so big. Like, there's so much of,

San Diego goes from the beach out to like the desert from Mexico up to Orange County. It's huge. It's bigger than some states. San Diego is gigantic. And that's not even all of Southern California. It just keeps going. It's fucking, it's big. And growing up here was really cool. And so coming back here is always really fun.

Whether it's killer, people are good. Mexican food's great. Hell yeah. See, that sounds fucking awesome. Yeah. I wish I could say I have that experience with Alabama. See, I was born in Alabama. I grew up, I moved around a lot as a kid, right? I lived in Oregon, I lived in Florida,

I lived in Louisiana. I lived in just outside of Portland in a town called Beaverton for about three and a half years. I was there when Mount St. Helens exploded. Well, no way, really? Yeah, I remember it. I remember it. I have memories of my mom and all the neighborhood moms like in surgical masks, which sweeping like the volcanic ash out of the dry way.

No way. Dude, that's, I had no idea. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I loved living in Oregon. Wow. That's why I still kind of, out of all the places I've lived, and then I joined the army after that, and then I lived in a lot of places. But I've always considered Oregon for whatever reason,

even though I was only there for about three and a half years, it feels like my other home. Wow. Yeah, and like when I go to Portland, it still feels like home. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I would love to live there someday if I ever left Austin, but I don't think it's in the cards.

But what about going back to Alabama? You don't like going back to Alabama? Yeah, but when I go back to Alabama, I love my family more than anything. I love to visit with them. I love to see them. I love to spend time with them. And I hate Alabama a little bit more every time.

And after 47 years, it's a lot of hate. Yeah, get it. I just, I can't. It's a rough, like that's a rough go, like being from down there. I have a friend who does some art stuff for Ruse your teeth, a friend Andrew Douglas. And he's from, like Cleveland, Mississippi,

starts film Mississippi, like he's from like, some like deep Mississippi stuff. And he loves going back for the spots where he can go explore in like the woods and the rivers and all that stuff. But he's like, there's just like nothing, like how are you supposed to advance a career there? Unless you're working at like your dad's tire shop. You know what I'm like, you know, like what do you do? What are the outlets or the inlets or like, you know, what are the things there? I am sure where I a better place than where than I left.

I'm positive that it is. My mom is a big fan of it. She's always sending me stories and telling me about little ways that it's improving and I'm glad to hear it. I just can't see it or get over. I get it. I get it. For sure. Yeah. Anyway. So you mentioned that you had good and bad stories

about your time in Anaheim. What is the worst story you have about Anaheim? Um, oh man. All right, I'll tell this one. This is, all right. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. This is one where we should, like we shouldn't have done this, but we did it.

It's fine. Ha ha ha. And neighbor we didn't really get along with. Allegedly. Allegedly we didn't get along with the neighbor that I had that we allegedly didn't go on with. When you parked in front of her house on the street, which is in front of a laundromat, she would get mad.

It was just the street. It wasn't in her driveway. Right. Was it her property? No, but she got mad. Sure. She would come over and yell at you. And you'd be like, there's nowhere else to park. And then we got a roommate who only rode bikes. So then we got Matt. Sure. She would come over and yell at you. And you'd be like, there's nowhere else to park.

And then we got a roommate who only rode bikes. So then we got lucky. So we had two parking spots and we were great because there was only, there was at least three people in that house all the time. One day, she really pissed off her roommate. So he dragged a TV out front and drank beer in the driveway and didn't even like the TV was so old, it hardly worked,

and had an antenna. And he just blasted TV party on repeat, on radio. And so she got out mad at him and fucking yelled and there was a big fight or whatever. Yeah, yeah. He got a bag of bird seed. And then the bird seed allegedly ended up on her lawn, opened and laid out everywhere on her lawn.

So the next day, there were allegedly birds all over the lawn. Furious. She's pissed. She's pissed. She's pissed. She's pissed. She's yelling at us and we're going, we know what you're talking about. Bird. I don't know. She called our landlord. And it was like, they put birdseed all over my lawn. They did all this stuff. And we're like, oh, the landlord called me. She's like, hey, neighbor said you put birdseed on her lawn. And's like, hey, neighbor said you put bird seat on her lawn. And I went, oh, she said we put bird seat on her lawn? Yeah, you said you put bird seat on the lawn.

Bird seat? Yeah, she said, yeah, she said you said, you guys put bird seat on her lawn. Why would we put bird seat on her lawn? She, I don't know. I hang on, I'm gonna, I'll sort, this doesn't make any sense. Never heard about it again. And never actually lied or denied either. Yeah.

Just I'll never forget that phone call. Just just repeating it back. And then we never talked to her again and that was fine. And it was definitely like that's probably a story that I'm fine sharing because it's been so long. Yeah, that's fairly innocuous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's and that's probably a story that I'm fine cheering because it's been so long. Yeah, that's fairly innocuous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably fine. I, it is funny. I was thinking about this the other day. I was remembering this, oh, fuck, dude.

I was remembering this party. I went to, I was a skinhead party that I went to in Augusta, Georgia, non-racist skinhead, sharp, the traditional skinheads, sharp skinheads. This is back in the early 90s. And I was like, I don't think I've ever told stories from this party. Oh, wow.

And then I thought, I probably got like three of, and then I thought, I can't tell that one. I can't analyze. There's just a lot of my life that I just, no longer is okay to talk about. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff. Past. Thank God we didn't have cell phones

and social media back then. No, dude, see, like I was right at, we were right at the cusp where we had flip phones and side kicks, this was probably 2007, 2008, like right around that time when we were like really getting, like it was fucking crazy. So it was right at the time where people could like record stuff, but everything was like shit,

so nobody kept any of it. So it was like perfect. We got lucky. We used to have hardcore bands play in our living room. We would move all the furniture out and then we wouldn't like charge anyone but it'd be like, hey, these bands are playing here. Can you kick in five bucks for like gas or beer or whatever

and the people would bring beer and we would do that shit? Neighbors didn't like that either. Do you ever, you ever been to a party where things start out good? And then they start out really good and they're like, they go in really well. And then at some point you look up and they're like, they're going really well. And then at some point you look up and you realize

you're in a different party than you got to and things are very dangerous. And you suddenly don't feel safe at all. And suddenly you're pretty fucking scared. And then you're like, how did I even get to Augusta, Georgia? I don't live here. I'm in a bad way right now.

Yeah, that's a... You have to be... I'll be straight. If you have the one weird skinhead Nazi guy who's a friend of a friend and shows up at your place or a place where you go or what, you have to shoe them or what, they can't because it always starts out as one cool guy. One guy who's fine. One guy who's, he's like, he's fucking what,

yeah, but he's not what, the rest come. And that's when it's trouble. Don't give him an inch. Kick him out, say get fucking lost because it's start, it will always start with the one guy who you're like, yeah, I think he's kind of, I think he's like a skinhead, but like he's fine, I've never like been a problem than he invites his friends over.

That's when you have trouble, cut it off before he invites his friend over. Don't just, don't let him. There you go, Eric Badoor, wisdom. I'm just letting, I'm just letting you know what you should and should not do in the situation where you have a friend of a friend of a friend who might be a skinhead.

Or just, you know, if somebody says, hey, hop in the car, we're going a state over for a party. What the fuck? Do you want to go? What? Did get a little bit more info first. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha How far was that drive? Collar, where I was living in Columbia, South Carolina, so at the time, somewhere that was. Fuck. Hour two.

So that's Christ. For a party? Well, that was a show. I was going to a show. I was going to a, who was it? Well, I can't remember who was. Well, youth brigade.

It was a youth brigade. Oh, cool. Oh, that's sick. That's cool. And it got shut down by the cops. And that should have been my first clue to get out of town. Cause when they started, like I thought I was in a situation. You ever been to a show that is on the precipice of a riot?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was one of those. I've been in a show that turned into a riot and that was at backroom in Austin. Yeah, that was brutal. I think we might have even mentioned that on this. Yeah, I think we talked about that. I thought people get really hurt and that was a terrible night.

Anyway, though, we're talking about, so that's your story about Anaheim. So then how did you get from going to college for RTF to working at Rooster Teeth? So I feel like we should get to know a little bit about Eric. I really learned that I had a passion for producing when I was in college because I didn't, I learned that I didn't want to write

and directing isn't my forte, because I'm too short with people when it's a filming sort of basis, because I feel like we're wasting time and we're not, but I have a hard time sort of jumping that barrier. So I learned that I really like producing. So I started producing the Mega 64 podcast and- And because you had known those guys- I've known those guys since high school.

Okay. I've known Sean since I was probably in like middle school. So did you guys all go to the same school? Yeah. Yeah, we all went to the same high school. So I've known those guys for like a really long time. Pretty talent stacked high school. Yeah, not bad.

In terms of internet celebrity. Yeah, and dad fan the winner of the first of The guy who toppled Ralphie May Yeah, I love when they bring up dad fan on our Like when already would say ossified. I thought that was always the funniest thing that you would talk about getting drugged. I was ossified. So I went to college for radio TV film, learned I didn't want to write, and then I was doing internship up in Beverly Hills. That was gnarly, that was a drive.

So you were living in Anaheim and driving up to Beverly Hills? It was like two hours every two or three days. It was pretty gnarly. But you're on Wilshire and you're like, wow, it's like two hours every like two or three days. It was pretty gnarly. But, you know, you're on Wilshire and you're like, wow, this is like a cool experience. That's a great story of like, I worked at an agency in Beverly Hills, reading scripts. Secret in their eyes was a movie that the company

that I worked for acquired. It was a Spanish language film they acquired. And it won an Oscar like the Spanish language thing. It was a whole language film they acquired, and it won an Oscar, like the Spanish language thing, it was a whole thing, it was very cool. So I kept living in Anaheim and worked at an IT company, I worked at a zoo, it's odd jobs, you just work odd jobs and shit, and then doing megastix-y-four when I could.

And then eventually I said, I don't wanna be up here anymore. I'm kind of done. I just got, I got into like a relationship and stuff and I just went, I'm done. I don't want to be here. So I talked to Garrett in May 64 and he's like, I got a room. You want to be a roommate and I went, yeah, so I saved up. I think I think I had 10 grand. I think I said, once I have 10 grand, I'll be able to quit my job, move down there, and I can live off that 10 grand for X amount of months

or whatever. Well, I can look for a job, but do mega 64 in the meantime. And your family is still there. Yeah, my family's still there, but I don't want to live with my family. You don't want to go back there. Yeah, because I had the means to not. Sure. So I went, like, I don't have to.

Well, you were an adult at this point. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So do make 64 stuff and then just found a couple of odd jobs here that worked for a electric, like an electrician, doing like the scheduling dispatch for them

and just a few jobs here and there. Nothing like great and whatever. And then I worked at Razor, the keyboard and mouse company. I remember when you worked at Razer. Yeah, so how did you get that job? Had a friend who was running, he was part of like a little group. They were all running like the social media for them.

And they were looking for somebody who they could lean on for like filming and writing and doing social. So they went, hey, do you want to do this? And I said, yeah. And so it was like me and three other guys in like this office. And it was just coming up with ideas on how to film a keyboard, how to shoot this a new sketch and showing off whatever. So I did that for a few years.

All in the meantime, just going like, I gotta get hired by Mega 64. I gotta do something that's like with them or I gotta do something else because like the razor thing definitely had like a runway. And then heard that, I think I talked to Barbara Dunkleman at an anime expo. And she's like, if we needed a producer,

would you ever be interested? And I said, yeah, absolutely. And then that turned into meeting Patrick Salazar, my boss, at RTX one time, she, Barbara brought me to the office, met him and then months and months and months went by and he kept in contact and he's like, Hey, you Is this something you'd be interested in and That's like the way it's sort of snowballed as in a side for the audience Patrick Salazar is a name you may not hear very often

He's the head of our broadcast department. He started the whole broadcast department. Yeah, he is He's the head of our broadcast department. He started the whole broadcast department. He is truly one of the unsung heroes of Richard Teath and one of the best hires in the history of the company. And probably one of the most important people in the company in my life. He is the best boss I've ever had, hands down.

And I've never heard someone who works for him, not expressed. No, it's, you always hear stuff about like, I quit this job and all this stuff and whatever. It's hard because you have to get a lot, a lot has to mount up for you to quit a job because of the job and not because of the boss. Most people quit their job because of the boss.

I don't think I'd ever quit Patrick. Yeah. As long as I'm working for him, I'm here, man. Like he's so good at what he does. Anyway, I think he's very happy to be behind the scenes, but I just like, you know, I just, I want to give credit, recruit us to, and that's somebody who I think has just done so much tremendous work for us, and has been such a phenomenal leader in the company. And I just, just take this moment to just say how much I appreciate him.

Yeah, us. Because it's like, there's awesome. You know, a lot of the camera facing talent at Mr. Teeth, soaks up a lot of praise for the success of the company. And we certainly appreciate it, but there are so many people behind the scenes that deserve it in equal, if not greater measure.

Yeah. Patrick's one of those people. Patrick hired me and it was like, I got hired and I thought, I'm like, okay, I'll just come on as like a producer. It kind of like learn. And I got almost immediately thrust into like, like a lead producer role and I went,

whoa, the shit. So that whole first year I worked here, I said no to everything that was on camera. I remember that about you. Because I knew I needed to establish what I did before I could do anything else. But then after that, it was like, I'll do whatever. Because then I have everything under my belt

and I knew I could do the job. Before that first year, it was like, am I fucking cut out for this? What am I doing? It was like my first real thing. So, and now it's just grown to this. So, it's great. So, that is the circuitous path that took you

from Pier 1 imports. Yeah. See, what was your very first job? My first job, I worked at Target. I was the first person who got hired at a brand new target that they built in San T California, where I grew up. I remember that.

I was the first one ever who got hired there. And then I pushed carts. That was the job. And so I did that for two years, two years. And then I worked at a radio station for about four years. Really? I did promotions. And then you know, you cart people, you got to pick up this guy from the airport,

or you got to, hey, go drive out and go see like this concert, but hand out stickers, like that kind of shit. Is that what promotions is going on hand out stickers? You know, when you see like power 106, or you gotta, hey, go drive out and go see this concert, but hand out stickers, like that kind of shit. Is that what promotions is going on hand out stickers? You know, when you see power 106, like the booth out in front of a Chuckie cheese or whatever, that's what I did.

Okay, yeah. Huh, yeah. So, it was, you know, is a cool job working in a radio station sick when you're in your early 20s? What was your best, because I know I have one. What was your best non-Rustr a teeth job? Probably that. It was probably that.

I think working at the radio station was so cool because you, like, I met so many people and got influenced by, so, because it was a country station, a smooth jazz station, and the other one was like an alt, like the alt rock station in San Diego. So like, you went to a lot of different concerts, learned a lot about music, and met a lot of cool people and got influenced that way. What was your... Oh, dude, I worked at a video store in New Jersey. That's so cool.

And it was around the time that Viosque was exploding. Yeah. And it was in the same town. Well, I worked at a video store in Eaton Town, which was next to Red Bank, which is where Kevin Smith was. And so film, and Ind indie film was a huge deal, and everybody knew somebody in the film industry. It's kind of was my introduction into this world, and I ended up working through with Viewerscue,

or interning with Viewerscue, through my connections at the Video Store, which is wild. But anyway, I just worked at this Video Store, and the lady who managed it was this divorced mom, who was just super fucking cool. And I met the and everybody that worked there was like in their mid 20s and loved film. And I learned how to surf because my friend Rich lived there or worked there and we would go surfing together every day. And you and Gus can both surf.

I've been surfing way longer than Gus. I surfed, well actually I learned how to surf at Porter-Anstas when I was like 18 in the army. What the fuck? And then I surfed pretty much every day I could until I was, like when I was in Jersey, I surfed daily when it was surfable. Wow. Yeah, that was a big, big surfer for a long time.

And then it just like, it's a hassle, it's a pain in the ass. Yeah, it's, yeah. It's not worth it. I like to eliminate the barrier to entry to do the thing. You know, it's why I like riding my bike now. I can be on my bike and enjoying it in like 30 seconds. You don't have to drive anywhere to go do that you can just, you're,

yeah, there's no prep or a kid. There's not like carrying your surfboard down a fucking long ass hill, which is what I always had to do at Darlington Pier. Uh, anyway, so I worked at this video store and the owners lived in Philadelphia. Oh cool. And this part's not cool, but the owner had cancer

and so they never came to visit. Also, we were just kind of left-winged devices and it was a bunch of people that were like, I was 22, 23, a bunch of people my age and then a lady who was like 30, who was a single mom, a divorced mom and, uh, I'll tell you this, really sad story about her, actually, at the end of this.

Break your heart. And so it was just wild, and we were next door to a pizza restaurant. So we would, oh dude, it was so great. We were in like a little shop and complex. We were next door to a pizza restaurant across the other side of that was a sub shop. And so we would trade video rentals for pizza and subs

all the time. And then on the other side was a tanning salon, which is where the dude from, what's that poor son of sugar on me band? No, no warrant, cherry pie. Okay, yeah, what's that guy's name? The lead singer? I don't remember the guy's name from a warring fucking sign,

but maybe. Anyway, the lead singer from warrant, he would get tan there. And so he would be, I would always see him going in to get tan. And then I was always eating free pizza because I was trading it. Because the owners didn't, they were dealing with their cancer. And then, and then we would like shut it down

at like 10, 30 on a Friday night. And we would just throw on movies and eat pizza and get drunk and just all hang out. That's awesome. And it was the single best like most low-pressure job I ever had. That's the job I had as I got out of the army. And then I eventually quit because I went on tour with the band and then after that I ended

up moving to Texas. But that lady, eventually that video store shut down because the owners sold it off. That's too sick and they liquidated it. And that lady went to work at another video store in a place called Long Branch, New Jersey. And one morning she went in to open it up at 10 a.m. walked in the front door, unlocked it, walked in the front door. Somebody followed in behind her with a gun, took her into the back, made her open the safe, and then fucking killed her. Holy shit!

Shot her in the head at 10.30 in the morning, I'm like a Tuesday. What the fuck? For like 800 bucks. Oh my god. Yeah. Dan left her kid an orphan. That's fuck. Yeah, just terrible. Oh my God. Yeah. Dan, left her kid in Orphan. That's fuck. Yeah, just terrible.

Oh my God. That was really, really sad. Dude, that's insane. Holy shit. Just fucking so random. And just like, I don't think they ever caught the person when you were here. It was just like, broad daylight.

Man, this bonus episode's been all over the place. It was a great job though. And I have yet to have is, and I love obviously, Ruchertiath is technically my first child because it's older than my daughter. Right. But in my heart, my second child, but I've still never had fun like I had

working at a video store at 22 years old. You know what's funny is like, which is a joy nobody else will ever have. No idea. They'll have no idea. There was something. There's no way to explain that. That's what I was gonna say is like,

there was something so cool about video stores where what you said about like trading the thing or whatever. We did that with the radio station because we had t-shirts and we would, you know, hey, you're out in front of like a Kentucky fried chicken doing whatever, but there's pizza place right over here

and you'd go over and be like, Hey, what's I sure to you? I'll trade you. You want a KSONT shirt? I'll trade you for a pizza. And the guy's like, oh, fuck yeah, here you go. Yeah, hell yeah. Dude, we should probably wrap this up.

Okay. But let me tell you one. Do it. This is the last one. This is the last story. This is about Casino El Camino. Oh, hell yeah. This may come up again in the future, just after reminding me that we already told this

story. Okay. I don't think Gus will be too mad. So Gus and I, we would go to Casino El Camino. Oh, hell yeah. This may come up again in the future, which is after reminding me that we already told this story. Okay. I don't think it's going to be too bad. So Gus and I, we would go to Casino all the time. It was our main Hangouts spot. We were essentially regular. This is, let's say, well, honestly, before RT, but this persisted for the first, like, maybe five years of Rooster Teeth.

First, five years of Reverses Blue. And so at, I'd say somewhere around, like, year three into it into it at this point we've been like in the New York Times where on the front pages of the Wall Street Journal Right, we've been on the BBC on CNN. It's like stupid the kind of coverage and crazy We've got and we're dealing with the fact that now like Rupert is as a thing and we're getting recognized places so we're hanging out at a casino all the time and and we're getting recognized places. So we're hanging out at a casino all the time. And the real appeal to Casino,

it's a grungy punk bar that has a great, it's got over the top, like Gargoyle the Core, which is a little silly in my old age now, but I always thought it was charming back then, and it's got an awesome jukebox, but the real attraction is they had phenomenal hamburgers. Oh yeah. Just really, really, really good hamburgers.

Still do. Yeah, and I haven't had one in years, I should go back Just really, really, really good hamburgers. Still do. Yeah. And I haven't had one in years, I should go back and go. Yeah, let's do it. I'm all about it, dude. The pits burger. Oh, God, it's so good. However, so we would always go and order a burger,

and the burgers are like 12 bucks. So like, you know, burgers on fries get, is like, I don't know, 12, 15 bucks. And we would always go and order a bunch of burgers, and then you go upstairs and you join, can wait an hour, it takes forever because there's always a line. And, you know, it's like, for Gus and I to go,

it'd be like, say, or like, 35 bucks. And so I would go and I would order a burger, just like I've been doing, and the dude one day was like, yeah, it's giving me like five bucks. And I'm like, okay, so we give him five bucks, get the burgers, I'm like, fuck, and this is awesome. And I go and I tell Gus and he's like, maybe it's because we're like locals,

maybe because we're here so much. And I'm like, yeah, it's gotta be it. And it keeps happening. To the point where I'm starting to get a little weirded out, but it's happened like, I'm gonna say over the course of a couple months, it happens like maybe 15 times. Wow. And I get a particularly big order.

It's like for like five or six people. It's like a $70 order. Yeah. And the guy goes, I don't know man, just give me 14 bucks. And I go, I go, listen, I gotta ask you a question. And he goes, okay. And I go, are you like a Red versus Blue Fan or something? And he goes, I don't know what that is.

I go, well you have, of course you're not. You've got prison tattoos. Right, yeah. And I'm like, and he's like a fucking like a sleep shirt. And you know, just like drugged out. And I'm like, the cartoon, he's like, what are you talking about? And I go, well, I just, every time I come up here, you just give me these deep, deep discounts.

And I just don't know what. He goes, yeah, dude, it's a fucking industry favor. And I go, well, I just every time I come up here, you just give me these deep, deep discounts. And I just don't know why he goes, yeah, dude, it's a fucking industry favor. And I go, okay. And he goes, you work at E-Mose, you let us in for free. I get you cheap burgers. That's how this works. And I go, for people who don't know, E-Moses, the punk club, two blocks down the road. And I go, I don't work at E-Mose. And he goes, yeah, you do. And I go, I really don't. I'm sorry. And he goes, well, you used to. And I go, I don't work at Emos and he goes, yay, dude. And I go, I really don't, I'm sorry. And he goes, well, you used to and I go, I've never, ever worked at Emos. And this like grizzled probably like 38 year old dude,

who probably looks 48, just lived a very rough punk rock lifestyle, you know. He just stares at me, and he stares at me for like, it was probably 12 seconds, but it felt like six hours, you know It just like smoldering angry eyes and I get very scared. Oh, I'm just like He just he did this long pause and he just goes you better give me the biggest fucking tip you've ever given In your entire life and so I tip them like a hundred bucks and then I paid regular price from then on out The greatest restaurant in Austin greatest restaurant in Austin And so I tipped them like a hundred bucks, and then I paid regular price from the donut.

The greatest restaurant in Austin. Greatest restaurant in Austin. That's fucking awesome. We have to do an episode from Kissino. Oh, absolutely, we have the back patio. We have to. All right, this is a good bonus episode. Yeah, man, I had a really good time.

Yeah, and I wanted the audience to get a little, a little bit of more info on producer extraordinaire, Eric, who not only produces ANMA, is also a fixture in the Face Jam podcast, is a fixture in the face podcast. What are the podcasts do you do? Reached teeth podcast. Reached teeth podcast. I guess that's the OG for you. Yeah, that would be, yeah, that was the first one that I really worked on off topic for a while. And I just sort of, I oversee all the producers. So if there's a show that's

getting made, I've seen it through with creative and stuff. So if there's a show that's getting made, I've seen it through with creative and stuff. So it's great, we have a lot of podcasts. Oh, I don't watch any, we just keep content anymore. But I listen to all these podcasts, this is gonna blow your mind, that's the content. Oh, you see those, yeah. It's all that's, yeah, I'll really keep up with the new stuff,

but I listen to these four podcasts, that's an exceptional amount. That's all that's, yeah, I'll really keep up with the new stuff, but I listen to these four podcasts. That's an exceptional amount. That's the new stuff. That's, appreciate you. Hey, man, thanks for listening. All right, hey, follow us at Anima Podcast. Let us know what your guesses are for the name. We're gonna get it eventually, I assume.

I can't believe somebody's gotten close. I have one I wanna ask. I saw, I saw a mention, but I, we should wait for Gus. Yeah, we have to wait for Gus. Gotta wait for Gus, so I was wondering. There should be one more bonus thing. I might try to see if we can do something with somebody who's gonna be around here

that we can just grab and record something with them, because we have a third of my, so we should try. Sounds good? Yep, all right, cool. We'll see you guys later, any parting words? Peace. cryptic podcast, f*** face. Call to action. Feel free to add something show premise specific, but short. Listen to show name on Apple Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. It's f*** face, a podcast. Subscribe or no. You do yes?