ANMA - Going to Mexico Without a Passport

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Good Morning, Gus! Coming to you from Easy Tiger on South Lamar, it's a new episode of ANMA. Gus & Geoff discuss visiting the birthplace of nachos, going to the Mexico without a passport, aphid jizz, ...Gus's flights, Camping out for Star Wars episode 1, terrifying break in stories, our barista Whitney, and visiting Korea & the DMZ. This episode is sponsored by Shady Rays at http://shadyrays.com + code ANMA and Better Help at http://betterhelp.com/anma Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Yeah, this is episode 17, our 21st episode. Yes, exactly. Last episode was civil goat coffee with Jason. Tell me, don't trust a civil goat. Yeah, talked about Trudy's grand slam, being Canadian overseas, a nrbacular drop, flying the long island, or flying out of long island.
Starting point is 00:00:54 The cats who con handler and Jeff hitting a deer. So that was all previous topics, but now it's up to you to do this episode. Have we, we haven't done Easy Tiger before. Good morning Gus. Good morning Eric. Good morning Eric. We're at the Easy Tiger down in South of Mar.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I've never been to this location. So we haven't done Easy Tiger, right? I've not done Easy Tiger. We haven't done Easy Tiger now. This is an interesting location, because of course they started downtown on 6th Street. Yeah. Which I love that place, but it's a terrible location. It's just hard to get in and out.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I don't think is it there anymore? No, it's gone. I don't think so, it's gone. But when I think of easy tiger, I think of the one that's a little more central, like the one over at the Old Lincoln Village. I guess this used to be a different place to now it's an easy tiger. What's the Lincoln Village? Where's that? They call it the link now. Remember it used to be Lincoln Village? Oh, Lincoln Village. I guess this used to be a different place in Alitan, you can tell you're in here. What's the Lincoln Village?
Starting point is 00:01:46 Where's that? They called it the link now. Remember it used to be Lincoln Village? Oh, Lincoln Village, A.S. Oh, is that why it's called that? That's why the old... It used to be called Lincoln Village Shopping Center, and then they hipped it up with the years
Starting point is 00:01:55 to go and change it to the link. That's where the A.F.S. cinema... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw train spotting at that movie when it came out. I saw Titanic when it opened at that theater. Yeah, it's like, huh. That's funny. Huh. Man, that was like in 98, 99? Yeah, it was a while ago.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I always liked that place because it was like an outdoor shopping mall kind of area. And, or like, strip mall kind of area. And then they had a movie theater, but it was split between two locations. So you'd have to go buy a ticket over on the left side if your movie was on the right side, you had to walk a half a block over. It was so weird. It was really weird.
Starting point is 00:02:31 They do, I guess now it's the AFS cinema, but for a long time, it was just like an open space and they would do like a Christmas Bizarre there. Like the armadillo of Christmas Bizarre? Oh, is that where it was? Yeah, it used to be in there. And it was so weird because you'd be walking around like buying, you know, local handmade shit.
Starting point is 00:02:49 It was like, it's obvious. It's very clear. This is a theater. You were just taking the seats out. You mentioned that this used to be someplace else. Just for posterity's sake. This is the easy tiger on South La Mar. This used to be a place called Reds.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Shed or Reds back to our. I never went there, but yeah. It burned, he liked it a lot. Tiger on Southamore, this used to be a place called Reds, Shed or Reds Back to R. I never went there, but yeah. It Burnie liked it a lot. I'd been here a few times with Burnie. It was like, it was a spot that he really enjoyed. It was fine, it was whatever. It's just like you'd set up stairs and you had like a view of, I guess, the woods.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, we're looking this way in the park, from the parking lot. It looks like you're out west to the hill country. Austin's interesting because it feels like 35 runs right down a part of Texas where it divides Texas geography. We're like going east to 35 is like you're getting down to the coastal plains and then you start going west and you leave him from here. If you look west, you start to see the hills forming
Starting point is 00:03:42 going out to the hill country. It's weird how different it is and how quickly it makes that change right here. I was talking to my doctor a couple months ago. He was asking me about my allergies, which I don't have. And then he was talking about how lucky I am not to have allergies because the rule is, if you don't have allergies in Austin, you just have to live too long enough, like you will get them. Like our friend Nathan Zelner,
Starting point is 00:04:09 who used to work at Rooster Teeth, he developed allergies like 15 years after living here or something. And he was explaining to me, I didn't understand it, but it has something to do with like airflow and how like two different, I guess biosphere, or biomes. Biomes, sorry, biosephsphere, or biomes?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Biomes, sorry, biomes. Two different biomes basically converge on Austin, like on 35, and so it dumps a lot of allergens from both sides in, and it makes like a perfect storm for Cedar fever and shit. Yeah. That was all the fucking Cedar everywhere. Are you covered in aphidges right now?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Uh, luckily I have a garage, so it hasn't been that bad. But man, yeah, it's funny. I feel like I see a post in the Austin suburb at every now and then where people are like, what's this sticky stuff on my car in the morning? It's like, oh, you haven't lived here very long. Have you? And of course, you're like, oh, it's tree sap. And I know.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Nope, that is not tree sap, that is aphid sex. It, there's like, I have like some zero escaping in my yard and by a tree where all the aphids hang out, the rocks under the tree are a entirely different color than the rest of my yard. It's really like noticeable and weird and gross. My old place, I lived at over on the east side. I just had a driveway and I used to have to park under trees
Starting point is 00:05:30 and that was a worst because my car would be constantly sticky from aphids all the time. It's nasty, it's terrible. It's shocking how sticky that stuff is. And just everywhere, everywhere. Pervasive, per everywhere. Pervasive. Perverts. Pervasive, perversion.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We were talking the other day. We were reminiscing. So sometimes believe it or not, we reminisce without a microphone in front of us. It's true. And we were reminiscing about when you went down, you went down and visited the town I grew up in down out on the border I grew up in down
Starting point is 00:06:05 out on the border like years like 20 years ago. I mean I went there a bunch but yeah but I tried to do the last time was like it was like about a three-year window and it was probably 20 years ago yeah and it's funny how different the world is now compared to back then I remember I think when you went back there it was still pre-9-11. Yes. And so you got to experience going to Mexico and coming back to United States without needing a passport. Like, just walking across the bridge, paying like a quarter or a dime, and then walking back and be like, yeah, I'm an American citizen, I live here.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Couldn't have been easier to get in and out of. We have a bunch of, there's a bunch of stories from that time frame if you want to get into them. The very first time I crossed that bridge with you, we're walking into Mexico and you're like explaining it all to me. I think your mom might have been with us. I don't remember. We're walking across here.
Starting point is 00:06:52 We're walking across into Piedras, Nagaruses, the name of the town, from Eagle Pass and to Piedras, Nagarus. And I was looking at the river and I was like, so this is like the river that people cross illegally. And you're like, it happens all the time. And I'm like, really? And he's like, dude, you see it all day long.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And then Gus looks at the left and he goes, oh, like those guys right there. And I swear to God, there were like three dudes just had all their clothes on their heads and they were like swimming across. And there were just like, it was like Border Patrol waiting for him on the other side, just letting them swim across
Starting point is 00:07:18 and they just picked them up. It was funny because you walked in the afternoon. With you that time and you asking about it was eye opening for me because having grown up there, it was like nothing. Yeah, that's the river and that's Mexico and yeah, you go across, it's like no big deal. But you were there and you were, I remember you were like, so this is the border, we're crossing into another country.
Starting point is 00:07:36 It's like, yeah, I guess so, right? It's just like, oh, yeah, I mean, it was like not a big deal to me having done it for so long. It was like, oh, yeah, I guess it is kind of crazy that we're just walking across in another country. We went across and we ate at the restaurant where nachos were invented. Modernos. Yes. Yes. It's not there anymore. They closed down I think like 10 years ago. But yeah, it's weird to think that for a while nachos didn't, for a long time, Nachos did not exist as a food. It's been one day, some dude was like,
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm gonna make them and they're named after him. Like Nacho is a slang, it's a nickname for Ignacio. So it's like, because it was Nacho special and it just became Nachos. It's like, people know it's like, there was a dude named Ignacio, nickname Nacho, who made them. Like one day, because it's like, all the shit he had in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:08:24 And I'm sad to hear that the place is gone because it was a very nice restaurant and very good food. It was like, it seemed to me, it always seemed to me like they had renovated it and made it really nice at some point in the mid 70s and they not touched it again. And it was like kind of holding on to that old glory, that old charm from the mid 70s and they just kind of really went with it. That a really nice bar there too.
Starting point is 00:08:52 You all also took me to, you and your mom had a lot of fun with me back in those days. Like you got me to eat a bunch of beef cheeks without telling me what it was. Oh yeah. It's good though. It was great, it was great. And then you took me to a, is it called a panteria
Starting point is 00:09:07 or like a place where they make bread and bakery and something like a bakery. Yeah, close enough. How did they say it? Panteria. Yeah. And I was eating it and I was like, this is really good. I've never tasted anything like this in America.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like it's, it tastes different. And you and your mom kept laughing at me and laughing at me. And I'm like, I don't know what is it that's different about it. And then you showed me that like, the ladies would use the dough to wipe the sweat off her face. And they're like, that's the special ingredient. It's like sweat. It's good though.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It creeped me out after, but the food was fucking great. It's good, yeah. I remember, you know, Frank moved to Eagle Pass when we were in high school. And I lived there for years and I remember one of the first times we took Frank over. It was me and my friend Rubin and Frank. We were probably like 14, 15 walked over to Mexico.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And Frank was just his first time there. He's like, oh I want to try the food, like getting all the fruit from street vendors and just eating all kinds of stuff. I remember partway through the day over there, I'd be like, hey, wait a minute. Is Frank gonna get sick from this? Like, he's never been here. I remember I was like, we cut our trip short.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I remember I was like, we should probably head back just to be safe just in case. I don't think he did end up getting sick or anything, but I was like, oh, you might not be used to this stuff. Maybe we jumped into it with a little too much abandon. Another thing that I, a memory that really sticks out to me, because it's just so funny and ludicrous,
Starting point is 00:10:34 and it was so funny to you, was one of those trips we drove over and spent the night, it might have been the night we had him in there, and it was, but I don't think so, because I don't want to be your mom being with us. But I think we just spent the night going might have been the night we had a man there is but i don't think so that when we're mumbling with this but i think we just spent the night going to restaurants or barge something and then we drove back across the border in your car oh god and we got stopped and they're like what do you you guys been drinking what are you doing and we're like us like you know we're making
Starting point is 00:10:57 city citizens were coming back and he's like okay where we been but i'm gus goes uh... because his dad is a game or in small town Small town. Small town. And guess goes, my father is Gustavo Sorola the game-warden. And the guy goes, pull over there and get out of the car. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha a border town and lived there for so long, border patrol are assholes. Don't give them a fucking inch. I grew up in San Diego, I 100% agree with you. Yeah, isn't your stepdad of border patrol? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And you like him. Don't give, but I'm talking about like an official capacity dealing with them, like doing inspections. Don't give them a fucking inch. So it's like I did not want to pull over for inspection. I don't want to go through a secondary. I don't want to answer a fucking question about what I'm doing, especially back then in
Starting point is 00:11:52 the pre-past four days. So it's like, I'm definitely going to try anything I can do to get out of having to talk to them or explain anything to them because I don't owe them a fucking answer for anything. So in the episode you weren't in, I don't remember which one it was. One of the most recent non-canonical episodes that are super canonical. Eric was talking about you and Eric was talking about how all the useful advice you gave him when he started producing here. And I was like, well, let's sum of it. And he was like, the little big one is don't give him an inch.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Apparently you have one piece of advice. And it just applies to all situations. Don't, don't. Well, you remember that it was the same way we talked about this before on this podcast when we were doing commercials back in the day. It was always good cop bad cop who's going to be the one that says it's possible. Who's going to be the one that says no all of this is impossible. Always set expectations low so that you exceed them.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Whenever you leave, I don't know if a lot of people know this. If you haven't traveled around the border, I'm not sure how much common knowledge this is, but there's a zone along the United States border where when you are departing that zone, there's checkpoints in the United States that you have to cross. I don't know if you remember this.
Starting point is 00:12:57 When you're leaving the highways away from the border about 30 miles in, you have to stop again, and there's another border patrol checkpoint, and they do the same shit. You know, who are you, where are you going, and what are you doing, why do you have to answer any United States, and I had the same attitude at those checkpoints too.
Starting point is 00:13:13 No, yeah. And they would do the same thing, where they would pull you over, they'd be like, pull over, we're gonna do a secondary inspection of your vehicle, and I, like, I had a lot more time to waste when I was young. So I would never consent to those. So if they ever pulled me over for secondary inspection, I would always get out of my car,
Starting point is 00:13:28 lock it, and sit on the trunk. They'd come over and be like, I want to look through your car and I'd be like, no. Wow. Yeah, and they'd be like, you know, you're not consent to a search of your vehicle? No. Are you hiding anything? No. Then why won't you consent?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Because I don't want you looking through my car. And of course, they'd go and they'd huddle up and they'd come back and they're like, well, we can bring a dog, and you have to wait here until the dog gets here. And they might be two or three hours, I'd be like, yeah, that's fine. I'll sit here and I'll wait. And they go back and huddle again. And they come back like, all right, yeah, you can go.
Starting point is 00:13:52 They don't want to wait either. Yeah. But having lived there for so long, it's just you get sick of your daily life being interfered with on that level. To the point where, like, why, as an American citizen, do I have to explain what I'm doing? When I'm not doing anything wrong.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Oh, dude, I know you, you are 100% right. You are so, you've been so you, you're in time. Yeah, and I was just gonna say, you know that about me, especially when I was younger. I had a very, I had a much stronger anti-authority street with me. Yes. And if anyone tried to tell me what to do, I mean, that was the sure way to get me to shut down
Starting point is 00:14:24 and just like dig my heels in. I've milled out a lot. But man, when I was younger with time to waste, forget about it. It really is obnoxious. Like, I mean, I understand it serves some sort of a purpose, but like, you know, I vacation sometimes in Big Bend or Marfa out west. And you have to go through like three of those checkpoints,
Starting point is 00:14:42 just getting to Marfa. In the middle of fucking America, you know, it's like, I those checkpoints, just getting to Marfa, in the middle of fucking America, and you're like, okay, and I think you're just on, I'm just on I-10, you know? And I think lately you see a lot of border security, like really in the news, right? Like, oh, so and so are responsible
Starting point is 00:14:57 for the border being insecure, or like this is a disaster, it's like, man, I mean, people have been crossing forever. I mean, this is just the. It's like, man, I mean, people have been crossing forever. I mean, this is just the way it's always been. I don't, I feel like it's always people who don't have first-hand knowledge and who haven't been there and who haven't not spent any time in that area, who were always trying to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Like, it's a problem and they've got a solution for it. And if you talk to the people who are there, you get a totally different feel for it. There's really a symbiotic relationship between the two countries. And I just think it's so heavily politicized. It makes, I don't know, it like really bums me out to see, especially, you know, my family having come from Mexico. I don't know, maybe I'm too close to the situation.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah. I just feel, well, your parents fought up. Both. Born. So So it's complicated My dad was born in Mexico My mom was born in the United States, but my mom's side of the family lived where they lived for so long They lived there back when it was Mexico. Okay, the border Yeah, the border moved across them and that part of the family still largely lives like they're in Mexico
Starting point is 00:16:02 It's just like a technicality that now they live in the United States. Like they all speak Spanish. They all still keep all the Mexican traditions. Just they've been American citizens since 1836 or so. And what where is that? It's down in the valley. Okay. Small towns we've never heard of. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah, we did a documentary about it on Rooster Teeth. If you're a Rooster Teeth first member, I recommend you check it out. Was it a dividing line or something like that? Something like that, yeah. It's really interesting. We talk specifically about like my family's history and a lot about that border stuff
Starting point is 00:16:34 and what's going on in the border. It's funny watching that now, thinking about that documentary now, because I feel like I was a lot more middle of the road in talking in that documentary, and I'm a lot more middle of the road in talking in that documentary, and I'm a lot more extreme in my viewpoints now than I would. When you're doing a documentary, you have to be objective.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to be objective about it. Now, I'm much more, I'm back to old Gus. I'm much more digging my heels in the way I feel about it. But yeah, I think all of that stuff's really interesting. Nowadays, it's totally different. I don't know if you've been back to Mexico. Well, I think all of that stuff's really interesting. Now it is, it's totally different. I don't know if you've been back to Mexico. Well, I don't know if you've driven across or walked across the border back since then. But now, you know, you got to show passports. It's a lot more strict. It's a lot more like going to another country now. I assume that whenever we go get your
Starting point is 00:17:18 baseball cards from the storage facility, we'll take a trip into Mexico. My mom's coming up this weekend. I should ask her if maybe she can bring those cards up. Yeah, that'd be awesome. I'll talk to her. I'll talk to her later today, see if she can bring those up. Because that would be much easier than going down there. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Just to go get baseball cards. And you hate going to Eagle Pass. Is that a great place? I've gotten some shit from people who say like that 20,000, you know, it was a town about 20,000, that 20,000 is not a small town. Listen, it's one pre-internet that was tiny. And to the next closest town of any size is San Antonio,
Starting point is 00:17:56 which was a two and a half hour drive away. Yeah. It's like 20,000 people in the middle of nowhere with no internet, that was tiny. It doesn't sound small, but it was really, really small. Yeah, it's not like, is there an eagle pass airport? Can you fly in the back? There's a Maverick County airport.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's not in, so there used to be an airport. I don't know if you remember, in Eagle Pass, there's that lake, the people always go and hang out. Like we never, I don't think I took you there, but like kind of in the middle of town, there's a lake. And when I was growing up there, there was a small runway there where like little single engine planes could land. They closed that down and now there's an airport just outside a town.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And you know, I've got my pilot license, I've been flying for a little while. And like you have software that you can use to like look up maps and different airports and whatnot. The Eagle Pass Airport is the only airport I've ever looked at that says the Runways and Port condition. Wow. Yeah, it says the pilot say that there's grass growing up in the runway and that overall it's very dilapidated. So yes, there is one, but it's not like you could book an American Airlines flight there or something.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Gotcha. It's not a very good, not a very good shape. How is the piloting going? Good, good. How often are you flying? I try to fly twice a week. Jesus, really? I didn't realize it was that much.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Maybe that's crazy. I try to fly some month. No, no, my schedule changes sometimes, so I don't always get to. That's my goal. It's a twice a week, but can't always necessarily keep that up. What's the furthest you've flown now?
Starting point is 00:19:20 The other day, I flew down. I wanted to see the Gulf Coast, so I flew down to Port LaVaca and back. Really? Yeah, it takes an hour to fly to Port LaVaca. Are you by yourself at this point? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. And you're just renting a plane? Yeah. You're just running by the hour or something? Yeah, there's like a meter inside that like measures engine time. Uh-huh. And yeah, you pay based on whatever the meter says. So what does it cost to fly down to Port LaVaca back? So found down to Port LaVaca and back, it was like two hours. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh the Gulf Coast, so I just landed, then immediately took off again. Have you flown with your wife yet? No.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Initially she said that she would never fly with me because she thinks those single-in-the-planes are death traps. She soft-interested a little bit. She said she wants to eventually. She just wants me to get some more practice. I took my father-in-law for a flight yesterday, actually. Oh really? It was my first time having a passenger. How'd it go? Good, good. Just like flew from the airport out to Lake Travis and then like around downtown and then back to the airport, like an hour. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yeah. So that means it's opened up for me or Jordan to fly with you. But like I say, on my hands already raised, man. Well, Blaine said he wants to be second. Uh huh. And then after that, yeah. Blaine wants to be, the 108 years. The only reason Blaine wants to be second, and then after that, yeah. Blaine wants to be,
Starting point is 00:20:45 and with the 108 years. The only reason Blaine wants to be second, and I'll give this, I like his reason, he wants to be, he wants to be a passenger before Christopher Maris. Yes, okay. Since his motivation is spiked, I respect that.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I like, okay. He also says he won't get sick, or whatever, he's like really taking a hard stance that like, I guess people could get sick in these planes. Yeah, it's, like you think you're used to flying, if you're been in a big plane.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It's a totally different experience like in a small single engine plane. You get bumped around quite a bit depending on the day. And when I first started training, I was concerned I was gonna vomit a few times. And I'm always worried taking someone out, like when I took my father in law up, I stashed like some barf bags where you couldn't see,
Starting point is 00:21:22 like I don't wanna put it in his head. It was gonna bark, but I had like some within hands arms reach just in case He started feeling bad and Blaine is like taking a hard stance that no he will not vomit a hard stance So he will not vomit. I am going to make it the roughest fly possible I'm gonna be like yeah, dude eat up I don't I don't want to be second or third or I I don't wanna be in a line, I don't care. Right, I just want to fly to Vegas with you someday. Oh, that would be a while.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Wow, that would be a long time. That takes a while. Yeah. You and I will go for a weekend in Vegas. I'll tell you, that's easy. It's easy to fly commercial. If you wanna do that. I'll fly commercial to meet you guys there.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Yeah. That would be, that would probably be, I mean, shit, we'd have to stop probably for gas twice. Okay, we're looking at this is you're not, you're not dissuading me. Now, this is like, uh, this is a really different episode of this podcast. Guess is looking up like flight information and stuff. Usually it's like, oh, you know, we reminisce or whatever we're doing like future planning. I really like this. If I flew the plan, I normally fly like a single engine, says, and that's an eight hour flight. Okay, 135 hours. I mean, it's, engine says that's eight hour flight. Okay 135
Starting point is 00:22:25 I mean, it's all about the experience man. I mean we're gonna come back And then it's 16 it's 16 hours dude. Oh, let's do it. It's never economical to fly that way to Like commercial. He let's do it like like when you run a car at the airport and then you leave it at the other Airport. Yeah, I don't like commercial. No, no, no, you can't do that. That doesn't exist You're like your planes in Vegas. You're like You've already come back and you're shaking the guy's hand. Where's the plane? I'll pay the extra hundred bucks. Whatever Oh, man, it's fucking hilarious. It's it's never makes
Starting point is 00:23:01 Sants from a dollar perspective to do it that way. It's more about the fun and the experience. Yeah. Right. Um, oh man, I did not expect to be looking at stuff up. I thought that was great. That's a really different kind of take on this. Well, we can, we can get out of the present in the future and head back to the past. If you want. Now for a word from our sponsor, BetterHelp. We've all been there, uh, facing a problem and your brain just kind of like, get stuck on focusing on
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Starting point is 00:26:03 Camping out for Star Wars episode one. Oh, oh, oh, oh. That's actually, we should talk one that you want. Camping out for Star Wars Episode One. Oh, oh, oh. That's actually, we should talk about that. Yeah. That, okay. All right. Done.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Let me take that one off the list. Okay. So, something in the news has been making you think about this lately. Yes. So, Queen Elizabeth died. And there are two. What? I don't want to break it to you.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Dude, is she, interesting story. Queen Elizabeth died while Eric and Gavin and I literally in the middle of hitting baseballs, where, you know, I do that thing on the face podcast work. I pre-signed baseballs by hitting him with a bat covered in paint. And she was alive and we started. And then she was deceased when we stopped. And so somewhere in the process of hitting those 200 baseballs, she passed away. So you hit one right when she died. It could be possible.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, Gavin was saying, I wonder how many were hit while she was alive and how many were hit after she died. And it's like, I hadn't even considered that that would be a thing. Collector's items. Yeah, right? I'm just glad we were there with Gavin.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah, he was in console. Yeah, yeah. RIP inconsolable. Yeah, yeah. RIP to a king. Yeah. But she died and it's major news, right? Major news. I was thinking about it. We're probably only gonna,
Starting point is 00:27:19 the, we're in our lifetime, there will probably only be one more monarch death. That'll probably be King Charles when he passes eventually and then will you probably have a little bit of a hill alibi's yeah i don't like they'll be this one and then one more and then that's it and then we're dead i was reading some some crazy facts about her uh... i think she was i think lb j was president when she became
Starting point is 00:27:38 is that right now she was she had when she was a true man it was true man it was true man was president yet it's a member president when she uh... it was inaugurated uh... by the is the forty six president and i think she was queen for fourteen of the u.s. president uh... yes she was queen i read for thirty percent of all of u.s. presidents that's a third of all u.s. presidents when she became
Starting point is 00:28:02 queen i think church Churchill was the prime minister. That's why. Yes, she's a 15 prime minister. It's a full of love. So anyway, so she died sadly. And people have been queuing up to visit with her, right? And to see her the coffin. And people were saying,
Starting point is 00:28:21 it's that they're saying people were in line by 12, 15 hours. Longer, I saw it. Like 24 hours. Yeah. And I was listening to a radio program this morning And they asked like what's the longest you've ever queued up for something and why and a lot of it was star wars related actually Which I thought was funny yeah people are calling in and that reminded me that you and I once camped out for two days Yeah, to see a Really mediocre film.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That's being very generous to the film. I had to film that I camped out for 48 hours for in a tent on concrete, so that I could fall asleep in the pod race or scene. I was so bored. We camped out at the Metropolitan Theater, which is just south of here, yeah, just south of here off right off of thirty five
Starting point is 00:29:06 and uh... remember we got there it's not like we were the only people camping like there was already a line archamping spot was behind the theater yeah we got there two days early and we were we're most of the like a hundred in line because we were wrapped around the building wrapped all the way around we were back and we were there for
Starting point is 00:29:23 a while i remember or i think bernie would bring us breakfast every day so we'd get him a ticket. We got tickets for like some of the call center people we worked with. We worked the only people can't have an album. We were the only people doing it right. Eric, it was brilliant.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We brought a tent, we set it up, then we'd guss actually befriended one of the employees who worked there. Believe it or not, I made a friend who would let us go and he would open up the back door for us and we could come in and watch movies for free and then go back to our campings. That's how I saw go.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. Frank, and we saw go for free. And I still don't think it was worth it. It was a Gus movie. No, it's not fucking a good movie. Gus was way into it. It's really good. Uh, but what really what was really cool was those employees who I know it's not fucking a good movie. Gus was way into it. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:30:05 But what really was really cool was those employees who we befriended, who thought we were funny or whatever, and we joked around with, let us run an extension cord into the theater. So we had an extension cord running into our tent, and then we called Frank, and had him bring a tiny TV in a PlayStation. And so we spent two days, and we had a cooler full of beer.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Bernie would bring us Taco Cabana and we sat and I remember for hours and hours, we played Bushito Blade. Bushito Blade, yeah. Like way into the night and people would come over and be like, can you turn it down? Because we're just like, oh, they'd come in and be like, can I play?
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's like we'd let one or two people come in and play because everyone else was like, because remember, there were no smartphones or anything. And it was like a chump with like a deck of cards. Yeah. We had a PlayStation and a TV. That's so awesome. And every once in a while, somebody would kick the plug
Starting point is 00:30:54 on accident and we'd have to go plug it back in. But we probably saw like four or five free movies. I don't remember any other movie that we saw besides Go. I know we did. But I remember what else was playing at that time. I'm close. some time I can tell you I can tell you what a couple of oh Super troopers I think it was one of them. Oh, was it yeah, I think it might have been Cuz I only I had no idea what the movie was I had no desire to see it But it was free. It was just going with this
Starting point is 00:31:19 That was fucking hilarious and it was way better than Star Wars turns out. And I remember another big deal was, we didn't know if you could drink boozer or not, but we said fuck it, we'll just see if they kick us out and we were hammered the entire time. And our goal was we bought our tickets with beers in our hands. And that was like a big deal to us. So we were like 23.
Starting point is 00:31:39 It was a big deal to us in our early 20s without that was super cool. And then we get to go to the movie and it was such a fucking let down. I knew we were in, when Qui-Gon swims under the water to go in and to the Gungan Palace or whatever, I remember thinking like, oh, we have miscalculated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Well, it was a big deal. There had been no new Star Wars since Jedi. Yeah. Since, yeah. It had been three. Yeah, a long time there was like a lot of real huge hype for that movie like I mean like you said you know we camped out for huge we weren't the only people we showed up two days early We were still like hundredth in line the line wrapped around the theater. We were very back. I don't know like I
Starting point is 00:32:16 Don't you will obviously never see a Spectacle like that again just because the world's changed like now even if there was a movie that huge you just or you're taking on line Yeah, it's like you just at home just because the world's changed. Like now, even if there was a movie that huge, you just ordered your ticket online. Yeah. It's like you just said home, like, like the website's crashing. Well, that's the thing that like, so when all the Marvel movies were at,
Starting point is 00:32:31 I guess it was in like phase three when they were at their height, and it was people were like, like camping out, but like setting alarms on their phones and shit to be able to log into the app to get a ticket the second they go and sail. Like, that was Jack. Jack's always like,
Starting point is 00:32:45 I'm gonna see first show, first day, and I appreciate that and respect it. But he would always, and he would always be like, you're gonna go see, you know, I don't know. Captain America too. And I'm like, I'll see it eventually. And he's like, you're not gonna be able to get tickets for weeks, gonna be weeks.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I had to send a alarm for 3 AM for the second they went on sail to get up and I still barely got tickets. And I would always go like I bet I can get a ticket right now at the same show. You always just log in your phone and be like there's one seat available. It would always be so crest on it. It's just not the same. It's just not the same. You don't have to work that hard anymore. And I appreciate that. I don't I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I have to do that. You want to do that. I'm an old man now. I'm not going to fucking go camp out on the I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don I don't I don't I don I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't even own who's Bushito blade was that Frank's was it maybe I didn't own Bushito blade Yeah, I didn't either but I just remember it was like it was just like quick easy fights. Yeah, it was fun So is that is that the longest you guys have ever camped out?
Starting point is 00:33:52 Then it was 48 hours how long like wait it dunks. We have waited in line. Okay. Yeah, wait it in line for sure I wouldn't wait like 10 minutes now if I walk into a restaurant in Austin and I go and they go There's a wait and I go what's the way and if it's longer than three minutes, I'm like, okay, longer, that's right. I go, they usually say about two minutes. Yeah. Well, normally they'll see 15, 20 minutes and they see you five minutes later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And like, by the time you get in your car and drive somewhere else, you've wasted that time. No, but what about like, in the 90s, oh, we were talking about getting tickets or whatever, I remember people going to, I don't know if it was a thing, I hear like warehouse where you would go and get in line for ticket master tickets to go see Pearl Jam in like 94 or 95,
Starting point is 00:34:33 is that something that like you guys did? Or no, or you like concert tickets waiting in line camping out type guys? No, I never really went to concerts for free when we were going through Eagle Pass. No, there were no concerts in Eagle Pass. We talked about how I went to the Lilith Fair here. I don't remember how I bought it.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I was listening to Tori Amos the other day, and I went, guess what's the scene this long? I don't remember how I bought that ticket, honestly. I must have been in person somewhere. I have no memory of buying that ticket. No, no. You probably went to Waterloo Records. I probably did. I mean, You probably you probably went to waterloo records. I probably did. I
Starting point is 00:35:05 mean, I loved music that much, but I just didn't like music that that rated waiting it like nobody was waiting in line to see the subhumans or like you know what a band I was into. So it didn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I think you know, when you ask about like the longest you've been camping, I've been out camping in the woods for a week or before. But that's when I was younger. I believe it or not, I was a boy scout for many years. And I grew up in a rural area. So I used to go camping and hunting and fishing and all that shit,
Starting point is 00:35:43 which is a very different life than what I lead nowadays. I was in an organization as well that did a lot of camping, the army, and we would camp for sometimes four months at a time, I was fucking suck, I really hated it. You're talking about being a Boy Scout and camping and hunting and stuff. One of the notes that I have for future topics just as Gus cleaning gun.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh, we're not there yet. We're not there yet. Not today. Wow. So I grew up with firearms quite a bit. I will set the stage a little bit. So we can talk about this eventually on the road. I fired my first gun when I was five,
Starting point is 00:36:26 and I was given my first gun for my ninth birthday. I remember getting that gun. Was it a 22? It was a 22 rifle. I kept it for, love that gun, kept it for a long time. Eventually someone broke in our house and stole it. Oh my God. But I grew up around.
Starting point is 00:36:43 One of the chances it was a family member. Low. Okay. Low. Okay. Valley question. But low. Great question.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I grew up around guns for years, you know, fired them all the time. From a young age went out hunting and I've been very familiar with them for a long time, which I think is something you would be shocked if you didn't know that about me. It doesn't fit with the way you think about me nowadays. That being said I think we're way too obsessed with it in this country. I think we have some kind of serious problem with these
Starting point is 00:37:17 We have a I don't know what's wrong with us But yeah, I have owned guns for many many years similarly I grew up in Alabama mostly and guns are a part of everyday life, hauntings a part of everyday life. I never connected with it as a kid. I was the sensitive kid who wanted to read books and collect baseball cards.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I had a horrendous experience with a shotgun when I was about 15 that scared me off guns for a while. I was at home with my mom one night on a Sunday night. I remember my dad, my dad was going to night school at the time. He went back and got his college degree like in his 40s, which was really cool. And so he was at school one night
Starting point is 00:37:57 and we had like a 12-git shotgun and there was just in their bedroom. And I was in my bedroom watching TV or listening to Metallica or whatever dumb shit I was doing, drinking off, drinking off. And my mom came in and she was white as a sheet and she said he's trying to kill me. And I go what?
Starting point is 00:38:16 And she goes, there's a man at the door, he's trying to kill me, save me. And I go what? And she goes, help. And then she grabbed the shotgun and just put it in my hands. Oh my God. And I'd never fired it.
Starting point is 00:38:27 I didn't know how to hold the shotgun. I really, I never fucked with the shotgun because I wasn't keen on guns. And then I ended up spending five years in the military and I shotguns constantly and learned that I really don't like guns. I have no problem with guns. I'm happy that people, gun ownership is the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:41 I totally agree, it's all right. I have no qualms with guns. I do agree with gusts that we were way too obsessed with guns in America, but whatever, man, I'm too obsessed with basketball cards. So, you know, I mean, my basketball card probably ain't gonna kill anybody, but do you surprise? Paper cuts are rough, you know. You get a chrome card, just right? Fuck, and slice the jugular. Those things are thick. But anyway, so she shoves the shotgun in my hand, and I go, what had happened was we lived near some woods and a lot of vagrants would hang out in the woods and stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And I guess some homeless guy or somebody came up, looked through the front door, a little picture window in the front door, saw my mom like folding laundry in the living room, grabbed, started shaking the door to try to get in. So she ran in, she handed me the gun, she goes, he's in, he's trying to get in the living room. And I, I'm me the gun, she goes, he's trying to get in the living room, and I'm holding the gun, and I look around the corner from my bedroom into living room to see, and while I'm doing that, the shotgun goes off. In my hands, because I'm like shaking,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and I blow a hole through my door into my bedroom, through the carpet, and into the fucking subfloor, like a trench. And I just, I dropped the gun and I was like, oh my God, I must have scared the holy hell out of the dude who was trying to get in the house because he fucking took off. Cops come, it's a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:55 I had this really shitty uncle after that who we went to visit him up in Birmingham and he took me into his house and he goes, he took me into the living room and he goes to the fireplace and he goes you see what's not above the fireplace right now and I go no and he goes you see what the what there's a rack there what do you think that holds and I was like I don't know a gun and he goes yeah I took it away because you don't know how to handle guns I don't like fuck you you know and I was like what an asshole man yeah and so anyway that scared me off of guns for a long time. Uh, and I stay scared. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like, yeah, I could see why you would, uh, why you'd be hesitant to handle them after that. Yeah. I hit a bowling ball. It chipped a bowling ball. Oh. As well. It was on the ground.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Is that why you're off bowling now? No. No. It wasn't my good bowling ball, so it wasn't a big deal. It was my first bowling ball, so it didn't matter. But I also had a 55 gallon aquarium and it went under the table where the aquarium was. I can't imagine if I'd hit that aquarium.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. Oh my God. Wow. That's my bad gun story. That's a hell of a bad gun story. Well, bad gun stories can be way worse. Oh my God, yeah, no no. So for a bad gun story, that's not bad.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah, nobody got hurt. Yeah, that's a- Nobody got hurt. The best possible outcome for that. Yeah, that know, for sure. For a bad gun story, that's not bad. Yeah, nobody got hurt. Yeah, that's a... Nobody got hurt. The best possible outcome for that. Yeah, that's terrible. Yeah, I had a shot gun. I had a 20 gauge shot gun for a while when I was a teenager. Like, 12 gauge seems pretty strong.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Yeah, anyway. Excessive? Yeah. But that mean that's what you want for home defense. I guess if you're like, if you know how to use it, that's what you want for home defense. I guess if you're like, if you know how to use it, that's what you want for home defense. That being said, had I not blown a hole through my door and floor and hit my bowling ball,
Starting point is 00:41:32 I might have beat me to death. I don't know, I don't know what was, what was on the other end of that door. We never found out. So. I've never encountered a situation like that where there's someone trying to break into a house that I'm in or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I kind of imagine how terrifying that must be. I got another terrifying breaking story. When I grew up in the 80s, right? So I was a latch key kid. I was living in Jacksonville, Florida. And in this really nice neighborhood, like big, I think like ET, you know, like the neighborhood that Ellie grew up in.
Starting point is 00:42:02 It was very reminiscent of that. And I would come home from school, and I was a latchkey kid, because my mom worked. And I think, I don't know if my step that had flucked off at that point or not, but he wasn't around. And you walk in your front door, and to the left is the garage, like a door to the garage, and straight in is the house.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And I got home from school, and the front door was wide open. And I thought, that's weird. I guess my mom came home for lunch or something, but she's not here. She must have forgotten and left the door open. And so I walked through the house and then I shut the front door and I was walking to the kitchen to call my mom. And I think of the phone and I call my mom and I hear a bunch of fucking noise in the garage. I hear like a clang and I go, hey, did you come home for lunch day and she goes, no, why? And I go, the front door's wide open
Starting point is 00:42:48 and she goes, I locked it when I left. And I go, yeah, I just heard something in the garage. She goes, get the fuck out of the house right now. So I get out of the house, she calls the police, they come. I come back in. The front door was wide open. Somebody was breaking into the house while I went in. And what I'd heard them drop was a tool chest.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I think they were going to steal tools or something and they dropped like my step that's tool chest and then like beat it out the front. I went out the back door as they were going out the front door I guess. Yeah. Jesus. Why do you have so many stories like this? I don't know. I just from I don't know. You think it's probably where you grew up. Yeah. The mean streets of Jacksonville Florida that time. I fucking hate the south though. Yeah. Yeah. I grew up all over the south and of Jacksonville, Florida. That's I fucking hate the South though. Yeah, I grew up all over the South and I can't stand it.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I blame that for a lot of it. Yeah, when I was a kid, our house was broken into, once I got said, my that 22 rifle got stolen, but we weren't home. And that's the only time I remember anyone doing anything. They started, I had a coin collection. I was a little kid. They stole my coin collection.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I'm bitter about it to this day. It hardened me. It made me hate people. You know what I'll make you hate people? Or I agree with. So speaking of break ins, at my old house, back when Millie was like, five, we got the floors redone.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And so we had to move out of the house for a week and we ran into another house while the floors were redone and we moved all of our valuable stuff into our like bedroom so they could do the floors and on like night six or something somebody kicked the door in and if you followed receipt for a long time you probably heard the story about how I had my identity stolen yeah and I had to go through secondary screening back into America and I had a special password that it was just a fucking nightmare for about 10 years. And they stole my safe with my identity and everything in it, they stole anything of value
Starting point is 00:44:35 in the house. What they also stole was about 18 piggy banks that Millie had followed. It was a thing, you would get Millie a piggy bank every year for her birthday or Christmas, she collected them, we would fill them up, and they stole her entire childhood piggy bank like, sucks. And that hurt worse than losing my computer and my TV and all the other stuff, you know, that really fucking bum me out. That sucks. Yeah, man, that's really shitty.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah. Yeah, with me, I didn't, it's not like I had a ton of coins, but you know, it's like when you're a kid Like you got it, you get fixated on something dumb. What's a collection too? You probably had like coins that were sought after. This was just piggy banks full of nickels and pennies. Yeah. There was more intent to yours.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Yeah. Man, kids collect dumb stuff. Yeah, they do. What's the dumbest thing you collected when you're a kid? Baseball cards. As I dumb it all, people are multi, people want to talk about the coffee and easy tiger itself. And also Whitney, or Barista that was here, who was very nice to us, who guessed the best.
Starting point is 00:45:34 And I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm want to talk about the coffee and yeah, easy tiger itself and also with me our barista that was here. Yeah. Who was very nice to us who Gus knew. Well, no, I'd met her before. She used to work at the other location and I go to the other. That's why when I think of easy tiger, I think of the other one. I go to that other one more often than here. It's closer to the office. I mean, this is pretty far out of this. Yeah, this is far out
Starting point is 00:46:02 of the way. And I used to go there all the time, and then she said that she was a fan of Rooster Teeth, and her husband was a big fan, so it was around Christmas time, I asked, like, what size her husband was. I gave her, like, a hoodie for her husband. Oh, that's pretty nice. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah, but yeah, I guess she works here now. She was really excited to see you guys. Yeah, I was excited to see her. She was lovely. Coffee's great. I like easy-tiger coffee. I think it's for, I mean, what you call like a bigger coffee house and like a little bit of a chain in Austin, I think it's one of the better cups that I get in general. I like easy-tiger more than I like easy-tiger's coffee.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Really? Yeah, I'll give the ice coffee like a seven and a half. I mean, but I love easy-tiger. I love the food. I assume they still have like steak and shit they used to at the one downtown. They like a steak board, you know, it was so good. Charcuterie? Yeah, but it was, I guess it was like a charcuterie, but it was just like steak.
Starting point is 00:46:55 It was just like sliced up steak. I don't know if they have that anymore. They might have gotten rid of it. Really good pretzels. Yeah, they're great merchandise. Like their branding is phenomenal, and it's a great Austin success story. It's a place that's easy to take people to if they're not from here and they go like,
Starting point is 00:47:10 oh cool Austin place. It's cool. Yeah. Easy Tiger is definitely cool. There's a lot of this Tiger iconography reminds me of like old Korean folk tales. you know, my wife is a Korean American. Her parents are from Korea and I've been over there. And they, like, especially like this guy with, like, his arms out wide, makes me think about that. And there's a saying in Korean, like, if someone's bringing up old shit, like, like, shit from the past, you don't have to talk about it anymore. Like this podcast?
Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah. There's a saying that goes, like the translation's like, why are you talking about the time when Tiger smoked? I'll be honest, if Tiger smoked, it's all I would be talking about. I would bring it up constantly. I guess it's like from old folk tales, like in the old folk tales, like tigers would hang around smoking. And it's like, so why are you bringing up this old shit?
Starting point is 00:48:01 Like if I talk about the time when Tiger smoked, I think that's such a funny like saying, that's great. It's really funny to me. How did you like Korea? It's really interesting. I think it's really cool. I think when people, there's a lot of people
Starting point is 00:48:14 go to East Asian, I think, like Japan, it's like the place that people go to. I think in Korea, to a lesser extent, I think it's really interesting going there because of its South Korea's proximity to North Korea. Seoul is within artillery range of North Korea. And you can go, I mean, you can go visit the DMZ if you want. And I did.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But the thing is if South Korean citizens cannot visit the DMZ. So it's like, if you go visit the DMZ, there are no South Koreans there, other than the military. Really? Yeah, if you're an American, you can, but you have to submit your passport to the UN,
Starting point is 00:48:52 and they have to background check you in advance to allow you to do it. I could talk about visiting the DMZ. Did you do that? Yeah, I did. I could talk about visiting the DMZ for like an hour, we could do a couple of sort of about that if you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So real quick, was Esther not allowed to go with you? She is, she's American citizen. All right, I guess, yeah, yeah. And even her parents are American citizens. So they were, even though they immigrated from South Korea, they were South Korean citizens, they immigrated their American citizens now. So they were like the only South Korean,
Starting point is 00:49:19 people who were born in South Korea on the tour. Yeah. But it's really interesting and really scary to go to a place like that. But anyway, that's just like one thing. South Korea itself is amazing. Like, high speed rail. It's surprising what a small country it is.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And you get like on the high speed rail. You go from like solar pusson and just like an hour or two and saw the food's amazing. It's really interesting. I think Japan you go to and it's like, okay, this is kind of cool. Lots of signs are in English and you can kind of get by. In South Korea, there's a lot less English
Starting point is 00:49:55 and it's a lot more trying to find your way. Especially because of the proximity to North Korea, Google Maps is not as precise and doesn't have as much detail. Gotcha. Yeah, just because they don't want to put that information out to be publicly available. So South Korea has its own map system,
Starting point is 00:50:16 but it's all in Korean. And you have to be a South Korean citizen or register to use it. Oh my God. So it's like kind of a pain in the ass to get around. It's not like Japan where you're like, oh yeah, I've got Google Maps and I can get around exactly where I want to go. It's South Korea, it's a lot more like, it's kind of in that direction in the ass to get around. It's not like Japan where you're like, oh yeah, I've got Google Maps and I can get around exactly where I want to go.
Starting point is 00:50:25 It's South Korea talking more like, it's kind of in that direction, maybe we'll find it. When I was in the army, so from 93 to 98, I don't know if it's still the case, but I suspect it probably is. Getting stationed in Korea was called a hardship tour because you couldn't take your family because of the environment, because you're there to protect the DMZ, or at least to be a force there. And so it was considered like the worst place to get stationed in the military.
Starting point is 00:50:53 You'd only go for one year because it was a hardship tour, and I always wanted to go. I was always like, send me to that place. It sounds like fucking awesome. I wanna explore another country and culture, and I never got the chance. Yeah, I mean, I'd recommend anyone who's interested. It's a really, really cool place to visit.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Didn't you drink a special drink there that's half gasoline? We drank. So you can buy, when you're in the DMC, you can buy North Korean alcohol. So we bought some North Korean wine. And it smelled like gasoline. And it had a bunch of sediment and like leaves it in
Starting point is 00:51:25 it. It was not good. Oh yeah. Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. It was not good. But yeah, you know, you get on the bus to take you to the DMZ, like you start like obviously not in the DMZ you get there.
Starting point is 00:51:43 They put everyone on a bus and like you can either get taken to the DMZ by the ROK Army or US Army, depending on the day or whatever, and we were taken by the US Army and like, you know, everyone gets in, you sit down, everyone's been screened by this point, right? It's like you're at the last possible point in South Korea before you enter the DMZ and then like, once everyone's seated,
Starting point is 00:52:03 like an American soldier comes in and stands at the front of the bus. And we were going for it, we were driving for a little bit before I realized, oh, he's not here to protect us, he's here to watch us. He's turned facing watching everybody on the bus,
Starting point is 00:52:15 with a gun, you know, not pointed at us or anything, but he's got a gun with him just to make sure no one's gonna be starting any shit going out there. You mentioned the ROK army. When I was in the US army, we called them the rock army. And I don't know if this is widely known.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm probably is. I just only know it through the filter that I learned it. But the rock army, at least among US military, is considered, those are considered to be the toughest motherfuckers on earth. Yeah, they are. They would never fuck with somebody from the Republic of the Korean Army. Like, they are tough as nails.
Starting point is 00:52:51 In a hardened badass mother fucker. There was a, they developed that reputation, I believe, in the Vietnam War. It was always like the ROK sectors were the most secure sectors. Yeah. In that conflict. Like, they do not mess around. They are fucking serious. Because it's mandatory conscription.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And everyone has to, like every male citizen has to serve, I think, like two years in the ROK army. And they are fucking serious about it. And I think in the DMZ, the people they stationed there, it's like the tallest, most elite ROK soldiers. And they intentionally picked the tallest soldiers to put on the DMZ to show the North Koreans like how much bigger people in South Korea are.
Starting point is 00:53:29 It's like, I think you have to be like six feet tall. Oh, really? Yeah. To be like stationed at a DMZ post. And you look at like, you can see the North Korean soldiers who are all like really frail and small. And then you look at the South Korean soldiers like, oh no, this is like, taint.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, this is a good comparison here. I can see why you do this. That's crazy. Yeah, we can, we should talk about that eventually someday, like about all the different trips we take in and go places with that. Because you and I have also traveled together to a bunch of different places. I'll put it on the list traveling together. Never went to Amsterdam together though.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Never went to Amsterdam together. Guys, what would you rate the coffee? I'd say like a 8.5. Good. Go good. I think it's a really nice, their food is so good. It's what Jeff was saying. Their food is so good that their coffee doesn't have to be great, but I still think that this
Starting point is 00:54:17 is, if I'm looking for something that's better than like a middleing cup of coffee, I know I can come here and get the cold brew, I can get the drip, I can get whatever, and it's going to be a decent cup. Their pastries are also amazing. This is the only play out of every episode, normally every episode before we go up, record, or we order the coffee and go sit down. This is the only place where Eric was like,
Starting point is 00:54:35 you all want anything else? I struggled with it too. I'm starving. The only reason I didn't is because for consistency, we didn't do that anywhere else. I didn't want to get something sweet to offset the coffee. We get it getting on to time so we should probably guess the name. Oh yeah, probably do that. Thick Gris on Twitter says does it stand for arts and entertainment? No, I thought that was a it's so weird. I really like it. It's weird. Yeah. And then Ray has a guess, is it me and my best friend, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:55:08 No, no, it is not. Ray is in Ray Narveus. No, that would have been awesome though. That would have been great. I can't imagine he would give another of the shit to. No, I don't think he knows this exists. Yeah. We can go to the house and have a cup of coffee,
Starting point is 00:55:20 but I don't think he knows we're doing this. Anonymous man in Austin? No. Mm-hmm. And then how about Ananigma? No. Well, those are all the guesses. Those are all the good guesses.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I know I've been fucking with you a lot lately. Just to clarify again, it is all English. I know I met you about the language. You've suddenly... I had previously said it was all English and I kind of fucked with you. It is English, it is English. And all those guesses were in English. So just just to be clear. Okay. How about
Starting point is 00:55:48 any more Austin? No. Yeah. All right. That's all I got. I think that's like like I said, I think I don't remember if I'd said this on Twitter or whatnot, but I feel like the guesses were getting good for a while. Yes. And then they got in dog shit, which is why I'm narrowing down. You're trying to help. It's English. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I think the language thing just kind of fucked everyone up for a bit. Yeah, let me ask you this. So you've said people have gotten close before. Yeah, really close. Has every word been guessed at some point?
Starting point is 00:56:14 No, really. Yeah, no. So there's a word out there that starts with an A, has an in it, or has an, or starts with an in or an A that hasn't been said yet. At least one word. At least one word. Wow. All right. When I say people have been close,
Starting point is 00:56:29 it doesn't necessarily mean that they're like getting specific words. I mean more like the intent or the thought process leading to it. Okay. Wow. All right. We haven't even been close.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Fuck. I know. Some people online have YouTube have not. What the fuck? Come on. I still think it's Austin, Mannyanna, but you're just not going to give of not. What the fuck? Come on. I still think it's Austin, Mannyana, but you're just not gonna give it up. I'm from English.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I just said it. Oh, fuck. Okay. You follow us at Animal Podcasts on Twitter, on Instagram. See what's going on. Listen to the non-cannon episodes of me and Jeff. The people had a good time with. Those were fun.
Starting point is 00:57:00 That was a fun, like, little hour and a half that we just got together and kind of bank something out. Bank that shit out. Yeah, it was a good time. Easy. half that we just got together and kind of bank something out bang that shit out Yeah, it's a good time. Easy. Um, so Thank you guys for listening and you can subscribe to first and get this a day early and you probably got a first gifted thing from Uno So if you're going oh, yeah, you can just get it a day early. That's fine easy to sign up I think there's a link in the description any parting words for the people at home
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