ANMA - I’ve Had a Memory

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We're down on the east side south of the river to check out Ani’s Day & Night on Riverside. This is Gus and Geoff's old stomping grounds and they talk about Living on Riverside, Breakfast tacos, Spanish, Old Austin food vs new Austin food, Waffle House vs Taco Cabana, George, and a Starbucks drive thru experience. Sponsored by BetterHelp http://betterhelp.com/ANMA Henson's Shaving http://hensonshaving.com/ANMA and use code ANMA and Fum http://tryfum.com/ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good morning, Gus. Good morning, Eric. Good morning. So, we're doing this on the back of yesterday's episode. Well, no, no, no, we're coming. Well, last week's episode. Last week's episode, but this is a back-to-back record. Right.

Just to accommodate some stuff. But last week, we went to LT Grey, which we really, really liked and really, really recommend. Excellent. Yeah. We talked about achievement hunter Zen, Jack Stolen, laptop, Valve and Gabe Newell, Simpsons of Futurama, F1, and he lit me of things, but this week. We're all over the place. We're at Annie's and that's now. I think we're going to have a lot to talk on. And he's day and night's now. I think we're gonna have a lot to talk on.

I think we're gonna have a lot to talk on. And he's day and night. Yeah. I don't remember what we covered in the Buzz Mill episode. That's the only other episode we've done on Riverside Drive. Yeah. And it was so long ago.

But, uh, further down Riverside. We are further down Riverside and we're a lot closer to where we used to live. I don't know if we, that's what I don't know if we covered or not, but Gus and I lived on a few blocks from here. I don't want to dox whoever bought my old house, but we lived a few blocks from here off of kind of off a road called Pleasant Valley. For I lived there for seven years.

You lived with me for on and off for a few. Yeah, and before that, like I lived in apartments, right. I think we talked a lot about it all around Riverside. So I think I don't know if that's still the case now, but I feel like Riverside, at least back then was definitely like an introduction to the city of Austin, like a stepping stone when you get here. It's like a, uh, it felt like everyone lived on Riverside for a while when they came to Austin for a while. I, I bought my first house in, uh, in Austin when I was 23 years old. That's how I met

Bernie. We talked about that probably in the past. There we did. And for $92,500, right down the road from here in 1999. And it was very much the like, it's like your introduction to Austin back then. Yeah. Clearly not the case now. The thing that I remember most about it is I bought that house and I was so excited to buy a house. I wanted to, you know, for a while and I felt I was really proud to be able to buy one at 23, you know, not going to college and barely surviving the army and all that. Uh, but I, I, sorry, lost my chance.

I've said. But then literally the month I bought the house, the Austin Chronicle released an app, the Austin Chronicle's like our local free mag, where you find out about like, punctures and stuff, right? And it's where news of the weird used to be printed before we had the internet, that's what we would read.

I think they still print. They probably do, yeah. And I bought that house and then the month after I bought it, I picked up an Austin Chronicle and the cover of the Austin Chronicle said Riverside Drive voted the ugliest street in Austin and I thought god damn it in your defense They run that article they run that cover every now and then I feel like I've seen that cover five times. Yeah. Yeah, that's true but I mean it's I can't speak to it now. It's been decades since I've lived down here on Riverside.

But it was always, I always liked living off of Riverside. It was always like a good mix of people. And it was much more affordable than living in the rest of the city, at least it was back then. Affordability was great. Great mix of people is true. Lot of young, vibrant energy, which is true. Things I didn't like about living on Riverside were a lot of young, vibrant energy, which is true. Things I didn't like about living on Riverside

were a lot of young, energetic people, a lot of crime. I remember back then, it was like, it was a fight in street. I was in that riot at the back of one night, right down the road that I got sucked into. There was a taco cabana right there. I wanna say it's like pleasant out there. That taco cabana, I used to, we used was a taco cabana right there at like I want to say it's like pleasant out there. Yeah, that taco cabana I used to we used to love talk of cabana. I used to go to talk to a band all the time

But that taco cabana if you went there after 8 p.m. There was like a 30% chance you'd get into a fight Going in or out of the place and so it was like that's hey talk was already well Let's get our talk. That's what Riverside was like you guys keep going. I'll get it I don't make eye contact. There's like a 30% chance you're going to get into a fight anywhere you go. Because everybody was young and drunk and poor. Yeah. Right?

And so it's just, there's a lot of it. There was a lot of aggression back then. There's like a few restaurants here on Riverside. They're still there that I think of. That I associate with my time living here. That's how Kavanaugh's one of them. The Thunder Cloud subs. That's a little west of there, like next to the liquor store, and I think that's the river.

Next to Riverside liquor, yeah. And that Tacos Alpastor, which is even further down, which I think is still there. That Riverside liquor was instrumental in helping me along my path to Alcaloza. That's been so much time and money visiting that Riverside Liger and that Thunder cloud, but I didn't become a sandwich of holics.

Some of that. Hey, who knows why? We ordered breakfast, talk us into place here. Thank you, Eric, Eric, when you got him. Sitting at this place, Annie's day and night, I gotta say Gus, and we're somewhere between, we're east of Pleasant Valley and west of Ben White. We're almost to Ben White slash tonight.

I think I can see the lights from here. In this adorable old white house with lime green shutters and this huge front like Texasy porch with like crushed, what do they call it? Kalachi. Kalachi. Kaliche. Yeah.

And then there's like a cowboy pool. There's a couple of trailers. And it's just adorable. And it's pissing me the fuck off. Why is it pissing you off? Because I lived in this day on this street for seven years. And we didn't have anything like this. If they had shit like this when we lived here,

we wouldn't have been able to afford it. Right. But B, we would have never left. Yeah. This is interesting because so much development in other parts of Austin affect, or I still to this day affect my use of the street and my coming down here,

because back before Ben White was finished as a freeway, you know, it used to have lights on it. You start to stop all the time. This is the way that you would go to the airport. You would drive down Riverside here, and then out here where Benwide is, or 290, or 71, or whatever, no, it's not 290 on this side.

Benwide, or 71, you would hook a left and go down to the airport that way. And it took him years, took him like 10 years to make Benwide a freeway from here, up to 35. But this is the way I would come down, even my old job, before we were straight when I lived off a Riverside in the dam apartment,

I would travel. I was a traveling job. So I remember I have many memories of like pre-dawn, driving down Riverside this direction, heading to the airport to go fly to Bumpfuck Middle and nowhere to go do that job. But you don't have to do that anymore. So I can't remember the last time I was on

like this stretch of Riverside. Just I don't ever have an excuse to come down here anymore. What did this used to be, do you know? I don't think just a house. It was that house. Oh, that so any day and night is a house that we just went into and ordered and then there's like a little pad. I don't know what you'd call this patio outdoor seating. Yeah, whatever with the collage with collage with collaches all is stepping on collage. All over. Are you giving me some credit for remembering the

word colliche? It's not a pop. That's not a big nobody knows that word. I knew it. Yeah, and thank God you did because I was drown. You ordered in Spanish, you know, and Jeff was so impressed. No, I love it because when like when Gus and I became friends, he was very timid about his his ability to speak Spanish. And he was always a little nervous about it. And I remember when you moved to Puerto Rico, you had to spend some time practicing. And you were you were really nervous about having to speak Spanish and he was always a little nervous about it. And I remember when you moved to Puerto Rico, you had to spend some time practicing. And you were, you were really nervous about having to speak Spanish full time.

And then in Puerto Rico, it's a different dialect as well. Right. I had to learn to die. And so that was scary. I mean, just I just love. I've grown a lot more confident in it. I'm not necessarily any better at it. But I've definitely a lot more confident in give, you know, don't give a fuck.

At least, at least it's an effort. When you went to Puerto Rico and it was a different kind of Spanish, what were like the main differences in dialect and that you kind of like reigning? I hadn't even considered, it absolutely is a different dialect. It's never considered. Puerto Rican Spanish, you drop a lot more of the S's in the middle of words. They just kind of like, you don't pronounce it. It's not as forward in the pronunciation.

There's also words that are unique to Puerto Rican Spanish and in general Caribbean Spanish that you don't have in Mexican Spanish. Like for example, they're slaying in Caribbean Spanish. And depending again, if it's like Puerto Rico or Dominican Republic can mean slightly different things. In Puerto Rico, you can call it bus a wawa, which you would never do in Mexico.

I believe in Dominican Spanish a wawa is like a van. So like there's a small difference is there. I don't know if it's Puerto Rican Spanish or just a word I'd never heard, but in Puerto Rico, they refer to dimes as chavitos, which again is like, I'd never heard that before, you know, growing up on the border, living close to Mexico. Chavitos, which again is like, I'd never heard that before, growing up on the border, living close to Mexico. It's little things like that, where you're like, I understand almost everything you're saying, but you threw a word in there,

I'm a little curious about. And then of course, the food's different. So like whenever anyone says the name of food, it's like, I don't know what the fuck that is. You were saying they drop the S in the middle of some words. Do you have an example of Mexican Spanish and then Puerto Rican Spanish? So I don't know that this is one definitively,

but it's just a word I picked up off the top of my head. In Mexico, if you're saying excuse me, you would say the school pame, but in Puerto Rico, you would drop that. The school pame. I don't know that that's necessarily one that they use, but like Adiós, it might be like, Aliossi, this like, the S just appears sometimes.

I never understood when, so I just ended up dropping it a lot of times. But yeah, it just is not as prevalent. If you watch, I mean, it's hard to say if you don't speak Spanish, but lots of times if you watch TV shows or movies and people are interacting with each other in Spanish, it's like, oh, these people are all speaking different dialects.

I remember there was a scene in Breaking Bad where it's like all the drug dealers are in Mexico and they're all having a conversation around a pool. It's like, these dudes are all from different countries. They're all speaking to each other very differently. And one of these dudes does not speak Spanish. They're all speaking to each other very differently and one of these dudes does not speak Spanish So we ordered from the little it just as tacos open that on the need is that one Oh, I do see that on the chalkboard. I mean, I think they're just saying hey, but yeah, I think so

Oh, just a little taco truck in the front here at Annie's we smelled it getting out of the car We parked got a car. We're like I don't know what that is. We're getting that If you live down the street from here would you come here and eat this all the time? Yeah, these are really good great tacos These are this was a it was like pick three. Yeah, the breakfast tacos this morning obviously is a pick three fillings For and three bucks for the taco is this very buildings are 50 cents each. This is very 2000 Austin breakfast taco. This is very happy taco. Mm-hmm. You know, oh interesting thing These are a place called happy taco. Don't know what Austin was a little less foodie. Uh-huh people It was a lot of it looked more like this. I guess I would say

Now we just have more variety, but I do miss some these old stainless. Well sometimes like that's the problem, right? sometimes miss some these old stances. Well sometimes that's the problem, right? Sometimes people and establishments look to elevate food that doesn't need elevating. And lots of times establishments do fusion stuff or new stuff or a new take on something that didn't need it. Right. So you end up with something different, not necessarily something better.

And sometimes you just want the actual original thing. And that's great, that's what I prefer. I'm not a big fusion fan. I'm not a big, let's reinvent this thing. Kind of like what we talked about at Hillbirds. When it comes to cheeseburgers, just give me a plain cheeseburger. I don't want all this other fancy shit on it.

Like I want a very basic classic burger. And I think that permeates a lot of other food as well. Yeah, I feel like Austin food is a trend-based. You know, you got to these swings where everybody's into this thing and then it swings to another direction. And then, yeah. Except for, well, I would say maybe the one exception is barbecue.

I feel like there's a lot of barbecue traditionalists. But even that does have some fusion sometimes, you know, people try new things for that. But for the most part, that's pretty standard. That Egyptian barbecue fusion place, that we, remember when we went to Oddwood and I thought it was a coffee truck, but they had just changed it to be a barbecue spot?

Oh, right, yeah, down, down off of, airport, mainer. Yeah. I ate there. It's so fucking good. It is like Middle Eastern flavors with this brisket that was like super traditional regular brisket, but then put into like a pita with like a lot

of like Middle Eastern flavor. I really, really recommend KG. barbecue, I think is what it's called. Well, what's interesting about barbecue is that, I feel like that's not necessarily one specific cuisine, right really, really recommend KG, barbecue I think is what it's called. It's really good. What's interesting about barbecue is that, I feel like that's not necessarily one specific cuisine, right? Like when you're here, you have to very, specifically put a nasty risk on it and say Texas barbecue, like every,

just about every culture, every country on the world has their version of barbecue that all came about independently. So you can definitely, that I'm a little more forgiving on. Just because even within the United States, when you go to different parts of the country, you say barbecue, that can mean something wildly different. Here it's brisket, it's not pork or even sausage. You can just swim in and sauce. Right, and I get into that white barbecue sauce.

Alabama has white barbecue sauce, right? Yeah, it's the worst, dude. I didn't think I liked barbecue until I moved to Texas. Really? Yeah, I would have it on, like a steak or something, but barbecue was all vinaigreen gross when I was going off. That was not into it.

And just like super soppy, you know. Yeah. I was in kind of a mood this morning. It's just been, there's a lot going on. We had a great car ride here. Oh yeah. We got here. We ate a taco and I had a cup of coffee.

This is my second cup of coffee today. Had a cup of coffee. I feel so good right now. This taco was excellent. Great cup of coffee, the outside feels so good. It is like not 105 degrees. Thank God. I'm thrilled to be doing this right now.

What did you get in your taco by the time I got the chorizo with the papas and free whole ice. So I like, I think egg should be standard. I have a real problem with Austin breakfast tacos because egg is not standard for breakfast tacos. It's always like pick some ingredients. And then it's like, oh, you have to choose egg. I refuse to choose egg.

It should be what everything is based in. Having to choose it is that's my stand. Like it's not the ingredient. It's like a mother's soft. It is. It's the tortilla. It's when mother sauce. It is. It's the tortilla. It's when you say breakfast taco, it has egg. That's how it should be.

So I got it without and it held and it was fine. It's a good taco. So I will say the caveat to that and the carve out. Maybe you'll agree with me here is in this case, in this at this trailer, you do have to pick egg. It's not a default. Yes. Because one of the other options is megas, which has egg in it already.

So you can't, I think it's a backstop to prevent you from getting egg and megas, because then you're getting like double egg in your taco. I should have gotten the megas, but there's nothing in here I would have taken out to get the megas, so I would have just had to add something. We're very good potatoes. I think Jeff and I had the same thing with potato egg and bean. He heard you order in Spanish. He got excited and he said, I'll have two of those.

And then she said, what am I ordered in Spanish? You did. He just refuted what he said. I knew what he was saying. You did a great job. It's easy. It's an easy to identify ingredients. So this area being outside and on Riverside and everything

you're saying that this was kind of like the drag that you would take to get to the airport and everything. Yeah. It's really green out here. It's really nice out here. It's a little shady and everything. Is this really green out here. It's really nice out here. It's a little shady and everything. Is this how it was when you guys lived over here? Like was it like a big busy street on reverse?

It was pretty busy. It's always been a busy street. If anything, it might have been more busy because like Gus is saying, it was the main thoroughfare to the airport for most of Austin. I guess if you were extremely north, you were probably coming down differently.

But even then, you would have taken 183 and 183 was hell-backed. It was hell. You would have avoided it a lot back and so you know, it was in some ways I guess a busier thoroughfare because it was it was a it was the life, you know, it was the main vein to Get in and out of the city And what an ugly main vein it was and I remember I think I think that was one of the big complaints of that chronicle article You were talking about about Riverside being the ugliest street in Austin, was that anyone who came to Austin to visit the Flandertian Fashion.

This is how you would get into cab and get into the city as you'd have to drive down Riverside and that's what the Chronicle was complaining about. This was how everyone was like, welcome to Austin, look at our ugliest street. Also I've had a memory. Gus, maybe this will trigger something with you. Eric was asking what this place used to be, and I said I think it was probably just that house. I think it might have been a used car dealership.

You think so? It was either a mechanic or a used car dealership. I feel like this area was full of cars. This looks like this was probably a mechanic shop based on the amount of parking they have. Yeah. That's starting to feel right in my head. Maybe we're gonna look at Google Street view

and try to figure it out if it goes that far back. But there really wasn't a lot from Pleasant Valley to 290 on this road. Like there's a left turn you take to get to an ACC campus. Ungrove, yeah. And then that was about it, then there were some old houses. And I mean, I think they built a school somewhere, like a great school around here somewhere.

But it really, it was just a, you know, I think, it went up to Pleasant Valley and there was a little more east of there. I would say like up to a month, topless, like we knew we were talking about that in the right over here. We knew some people who bought a little condo over there off a month, topless. And my topless leads over to that collocation facility

where we housed, where she servers for many years when we moved in from Sacramento to Austin. That's where they were before Amazon had their cloud services and you could just move everything to the cloud and not worry about physical hardware anymore. So I think yeah, I would say Montopolis might have been like the extreme edge and beyond that. There were a couple of things, but not really much.

It was, here's a memory that being down here triggered. It was so fucking dead here. In terms of shit to do. It was a big deal in the city of Austin when Waffle House opened up, which I thought was ridiculous, because I grew up in Alabama and Florida and Louisiana, where there's a W waffle house at like every exit on the interstate.

The waffle house isn't too far from here. It's like, yeah. And so they opened up a waffle house right there across 290 from this. Not 290 on this side. Not 290 on this side, yeah. And it was such a big deal that, and I was like, oh cool, I grew up in waffle houses.

I was worried I'd go after school every day. It was like, you know, it was like the number one restaurant my friends and I would go to because go after school every day. It was like, you know, it was like the number one restaurant my friends and I would go to because she was dicks and like, you know, and they had a great bacon egg and cheese sandwich. And you get some hash browns, get a little jalapenos on the. So is that what you grew up with as waffle house?

I grew up with a waffle house. Yeah, I probably eat, but before I turned 18, I probably ate waffle house more than any other restaurant in my life. How was the last time you'd been? It's been a couple years. I still love it, and I would still go. I go on road trips if I need to sit down for a while.

But when this wildhouse opened up, it was, there were lines down the road. People, you would get on a waiting list, like it was Jeffries, or you're eating at the fucking four seasons. It would be like an hour wait to eat a wildhouse, which is ridiculous. People don't also love lines. Same thing happened when Krispy Kreme opened up. and we're eating at the fucking four seasons. It would be like an hour wait to eat a waffle house. People in the off-house, people in the off-house in the love lines.

Same thing happened when Krispy Kreme opened up. And everybody lost their goddamn minds for Krispy Kreme. But so I avoided the waffle house for a while, but you would go at midnight because it was open, 24 hours a day and it wouldn't be busy then. So one time I went with a friend, I think I went to probably after a show

or a party or something, I rolled into the waffle house, or we rolled into the waffle house at, I want to say maybe two in the morning. And it was crowded but not full. And there were, you know, it's just people soaking up some food, trying to soak up their liquor with a little bit of food, right? Trying to sober up.

I was honestly probably doing the same thing. And while my friend and I were before we'd even Received our food we'd ordered On the other side of off a house there was like a couple ladies and a dude and one of the girls I Guess was so drunk. I don't remember the the Parameters around it. I just remember that she stood up and threw up all over the table Like projectile Vomited like in a horror movie all over the table and then her friends they just left

They're like we're so sorry and they just fucking took off Oh, and then it smelled so bad You know like that's that's a very particular smell and the Wathaus is not big enough Yeah, and for it not to permeate throughout it and it sat there You know, like that's a very particular smell. And the Wathhouse is not big enough for it not to permeate throughout it. And it sat there for a couple minutes. And then the Wathhouse employees got into an argument over who was gonna clean it up.

And they determined that no one was gonna clean it up. Because they weren't nobody, like you clean it up, you clean it up, you clean it up. And they were like, fuck it, I'm not cleaning it, I'm not cleaning it, it'll just sit there then. And so I had to get up and leave, because I couldn't take the smell. And I didn't go to a waffle house

for probably six or seven years after that. And it was including that one. I'm surprised. I don't think I went to that waffle house for another decade, but it like I couldn't think of waffle house without thinking of that smell. I'm surprised I did not start a chain reaction because after you've been drinking two in the morning,

already everyone's feeling, well, not everyone. Sure, a lot of people are just starting to feel really queasy trying to get the food into them. I'm surprised it did not create a cascading vomit Oreo experience. Who knows what happened after I left? But I probably sat there for 10, 12 minutes during the argument and everything.

And then when it became clear that nobody was going to clean it up, never leaving it, we were just like, we got to go, we can't do this. And so we canceled it over and left. And yeah, you know, in Alabama, thinking about what I was talking about the Taco Cabana earlier, in Alabama, Waffle House is where you go to get into a fight, right? The Waffle House is the place you walk into

and you've got like a 30% chance of getting into a fight, which is, it seems relatively safe here. That's what the Taco Cabana was for us here on Riverside in the 90s. That's funny. It's funny that we compare this to because when I was growing up, the place we always went to was the Taco Cabana. Yeah, because I grew up in a really small town

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I don't know if kettle's even still around. And then it was like, from then on, it was like, we already had to go somewhere in the middle of the night, it was always Tokabana, because they were also 24 hours. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Most of the time shaving feels like a chore.

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That's when we still worked at the tech sports center. I don't know if you remember this. I don't. There used to be a kettle lot down like. Oh, it's one off 35. Yeah, it was off 35. Just south of Overture. of the old car dealership now, I think there's something.

But we walked into that kettle and it was one of the grossest places I've ever been. And the lady that waited on us was older. And she kept talking about my pretty colors and she kept touching my arm every time she came by. And I was horrified. And I was like, George, we are never coming back here again. He's like, I don't know what your problem is.

It's great. It's like $4. The places I remember eating with George are, I've tried to place it on Earth. It was the first cafeteria that's no longer there off of like 35 and Ben White. Do you remember? And the super salad over there by the target in your Westgate?

Super salad I'm all on board with. And the Delaware subs where he would go and he would order a full length on the company and then eat half and take the other half home for dinner. Yeah, yeah. And he was like, company just bought me a free dinner. It's like, dude, you the vice president of the company.

Stop doing that. Do you remember there was a, at one point, when we were still working at the call center, you know, we had that old, ACD, the call distribution system was like this old piece of junk hardware from probably the 60s or 70s. It would electrocute you if you touched it wrong. And we eventually upgraded it.

We replaced it with like a modern call distribution system made by a different company. Yeah, it was an inter-tell system. And I don't know if you remember this, but as part of the training and as part of learning the new system, a couple of us had to go down to Houston to like official training on the hardware,

like learning how to fix it, learning what it is. So I went down to Houston with George, and George was from Houston. Yeah. So I stayed at his parents' house for a week, and we went to do the inter-tell training down there, and it was weird, like, it was almost like having like a high school sleepover.

It was like, I'm there at George's house with his parents going to school during the day and like coming and hanging out at night. Yeah, it was just like a weird experience. Like, I remember laying there, I mean, like, I'm an adult. Yeah. Actually, there's a single bed right now.

Yeah, I got fucking bills to pay. But it was great. It was a lot of fun. Learned a lot about the intertell system. I'm pretty useful today. No, I'm not at all. It was very useful for us at the time. Yeah.

But that's why we talked about before, like watching the stream of OAI data. It's like, oh, someone's hanging up on customers. It's that person over there. It's because of that training, right? It's like, oh, someone's hanging up on customers. It's that person over there. It's because of that training, right? It's like because of learning all of that stuff. Yeah, totally not applicable to my job anymore. This, this street was Austin to us for a long time though because if you think about it, we live there, I mean, together for a period, but we both lived here probably seven years. I mean, you lived on

Riverside for the first six or seven years, you lived in Austin. I think you moved that apartment you had over by Barton Cove. That was the first. It was 2001. 2001, that was the first non-riverside place you lived in Austin. Yeah. And I was still here for a little bit after that.

But then I came back, so whatever. But then the call center moved to basically right here. It was like between Old Torf and Riverside. And so all of our friends lived on Riverside and apartments. We lived on Riverside and apartments and shitty houses. And then our job was right off of Riverside. And so we really never traveled much further than Old Torf South

and then much further north and six street, obviously. That was Austin. That was Austin. That was Austin to us for many, many years. I mean, look at it now though. How often are you South of the river doing stuff like this? Like, you know what I mean? Emily and I were talking about that the other day. You know, we're looking to buy in a house in Michigan or whatever.

And I don't think I'll ever buy another home home in Austin just because I'm not Elon Musk. And I'm not a billionaire. But if we were to buy another home in Austin, I think'm not Elon Musk and I'm not a billionaire. But if we were to buy another home in Austin, I think I would buy a place south of the river just because it would feel like living in a different city. Because it's been so long since I've been down there. And when I go down there to go to like South Congress for a meal or whatever, it's like, oh, this place is awesome.

I forgot about this. We spent a lot of time down here. And because everything I'm up north now. And it's at the Austin's at the point now where it's big enough that parts of the city feel really distinct from other parts of the city. And you stay in your area because it's annoying to get around.

Well, it's funny you call out South Congress. I feel like South Congress is almost unrecognizable from when we used to spend our time down here. Everything on the east side was essentially bulldozed and rebuilt. All this left is maybe a couple of places on the west side of the street that are still the same. The only thing you would recognize if you visited Austin in 1999 or 2000 and visited Austin today, the Austin motel is still there. I would say what I would say. And Hotel San Jose is there. Those two, wearers and Alan's boots. Yeah, there you go, wearers and Alan's boots, that's about it.

Yeah, because even like Lucy in the skies has gone and everything on the other side of the street couple does. Like literally everything on the other side of the street couple does. I think the Amy's ice cream is there, but it wasn't always an Amy's ice cream. That was the first schlotskies. Yeah, he used to be Zen.

Zen Japanese fast food. He was right next to it. He became robot sushi, I think. Yeah. I think if Zen is still around, they used to have a location on the drag, right by civil goat, actually, where we went before. If they're still around, I think they might have one

location on Anderson's still by that Starbucks over there. You remember we went to that Starbucks once over there on Anderson? You know what I'm talking about like We had a friend who was working there And that's a really busy Starbucks. That's a friend who was working there who's been on this podcast. Yes We're like, oh, let's go. Let's go see our friend at work And so we got in the drive-through line at the Starbucks That, that, the drive through line at that Starbucks is fucking ridiculous.

It's really long. So we got and we waited forever. Jeff was driving. We get up to the order window and we recognize our friend's voice. The one taking the orders and he's like, uh, you know, welcome to Starbucks, whatever. I'll be with you in a minute and Jeff just goes, fine, whatever. And the most ass-only voice he could. We replace our order and then we go up to the window to get our drinks, and he sees us.

He's like, oh man, I thought you guys were just huge assholes. He was like, man, I was like, I'm gonna spit these guys fucking drinks. These guys suck. He didn't work that long. No, no, he did not. Oh, you don't say? Yeah. That was a long time ago.

I think about that every time I drive past that star book. I got it. That star book sometimes. Really? Yeah. I probably have not been back to that star book since that, that was in your old Mazda pickup, I remember right. Yeah, that's how long ago that was.

Yeah. My old Mazda B2200 that I got when I was 18. Geez. Oh, man. But now, so speaking of star books, I feel, I'm sorry, I'm going to jump ahead a little bit here. I need to make a segue to this coffee. I'm sorry, I'm gonna jump ahead a little bit here. I need to make a segue to this coffee. I've been wanting to talk about it for a little bit here. I'm really glad we came here.

This coffee has a really delicious coffee flavor, but it also has a significant amount of bitterness to it, which we have not had in a long time. So I'm very relieved that this is finally not another 10 out of 10. Yeah, this is not a 10 for me. No, but this is a, it's a fine cup of coffee. Yes, I got, I have like nothing really negative to say

about it. It's just a fine cup of coffee. Thank you for not being another fucking lock it out of the park. I can drive all the way down here. I will say though what this place lacks in coffee quality it more than makes up for an ambiance. Oh, I, it's a totally fine cup of coffee. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, the house in the inside, it feels like the original luster pearl. Oh, yeah. It's like an old like wooden base board kind of like wooden walls, just like kind of like shabby chic or like what are they call it? Coastal Southern. Yeah. Is that what they call it? I have no idea.

Cali-tree. This is a place that I would bring people who don't live in Austin. Yeah, okay. This is 100% a, hey, we wanna like take us somewhere that's, you know, different. And I would go, let's go to this place for a cup of coffee and a taco.

And if you come at night, looks like they have beer. Oh yeah, they do. They have, they got polomas. They got polomas. Yeah, they got polomas on draft. Hell yeah. Like their little sons they have. Yeah.

And on the fences. Everything here is, it's cool. And the coffee, I think, is pretty decent. Yeah. Again, if I lived right across the street, I would walk here all the time and get a cup of coffee and a taco. It's also fast. And maybe you guys will think I'm crazy for saying this, but it's cool in a non-pretentious Austin way. Oh, this is, it feels like Austin, but not in like Austin in the worst ways. And I don't, I don't, I even feel like that's too negative,

because Austin in the worst way is I still like. Yeah, of course. But you know what I mean? Like it has the quality, there's an unassailable quality to sitting here that you don't get. That you used to get an Austin, that you don't get now. That's exactly what I was gonna say. I felt like the city used to be a lot,

it's not the right word, it's a lot less pretentious, a lot less concerned about image than it is now. It used to be like, no one gave a fuck what you were dressed like, what you looked like. Every place like a place like this, you might have like a dude in the suit next to like someone who like a drag rat who just like stumbled over here

for some reason. And that felt like that was a lot more common. I think it's become a lot more stratified in the decades since then. I think that's a great way to put it, yes. Yeah. So I love it for that. Like I that's a great way to put it, yes. Yeah. So I love it for that.

Like I feel like I'm sitting at Spider-House in 2003. Yeah. Kind of, you know? And not decor-wise, but just like the vibe-wise, yeah. Yeah, it's really not a lot of people here. There's some people inside working. There's people just kind of hanging out, listening to music and having a cup of coffee, a little taco truck.

And then what I honestly, what I like about it, is that we're not surrounded by a bunch of other things. It's just, I was just in a neighborhood right off Riverside. Like, there's just nothing really going on. Yeah. I think it's cool. And also, when you drive down Riverside, it changes fast.

Yeah. It was sudden, it was just like, oh, we're coming down, it was like Montaupalus and then Riverside and then all of a sudden, these big apartments that are brand new and this place and you're like, whoa, this is all, wow, this is new, new. I remember, so we didn't drive by it,

but on the other side of Riverside down on Topolis over there, they built an apartment complex with a name very similar to a trendy apartment complex a little further down Riverside. I think that was back in like the late 90s or early 2000s. The place I lived at was the tropless. The matropolis. It was kind of popular and people like to live there. They built this other one down here.

I don't know if it's still called it, but they named it the Metropolitan. And I felt like it was always like kind of a, like a, oh yeah, the Metro place off a riverside. Yeah, that one, you know, it was kind of like a, yeah, that's us, like they relied on people not knowing the difference in signing at least at the wrong one. But yeah, and then since then,

they've built way more apartments and condos, and who knows what the fuck else over there. A lot down here, right? Like, yeah, there's just, because I think if we just kept going, it would be similar. It's awesome and nutshell, right? It's unrecognizable from the place that Gus and I moved to. Yeah.

You know, which is happens. I think that happens in those towns. That's not a complaint. Yeah. I think that's most towns 20 years ago to now. I mean, it's just. I'm sure San Diego is unrecognizable. What is the San Diego rockets, by the way?

You're wearing a hat that says NBA San Diego rockets. Oh, you don't know about the San Diego rockets. No, before they were the Houston rockets. They were in San Diego. San Diego lost two basketball teams. Yeah, why were they, they were the call the rockets of the rocket? Why were they, I assumed the rockets was because

of the NASA thing in Houston. Why were they called the rockets of San Diego? I think that that's just a thing. I don't know. We're military, I don't know. It's like, why is the Utah Jazz the jazz exactly? But it like yeah, we were the Lakers the Lakers exactly the the the San Diego Rockets were a team the San Diego Clippers were a team San Diego Chargers were a team

We have a long history of people leaving our fair city San Diego is the city of wars. He helped pretty much. At least we got the podra. Eric Stewart, that's it. That's it. That's it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.

Well, now we're going to an MLS team. That's something, right? Are you really? Yeah, I'm going to be called. I don't know yet. The rocket's right. Clippers too. Yeah, Mani Machado is like, I'll front a bunch of the money

and I'll bring an MLS team here. Landed on, I've been tried to do it. And so he started some other like usfl thing or whatever and usfl's combining with the right. Yeah, we think it's gonna be called US XFL I think it's gonna be called the Spring football. Yeah, I think that's just what they're calling it. Oh, I said Phil. Yeah, I think they should call it The X you XFL. Yeah, I think it's likeL. Yeah. I think it should be extreme United States football. They even hung out the National Spring football. They should all, like the last Boy Scout, one player should have a gun.

There's a bullet somewhere on the field. If you can find it, you can use it. Now we're talking. Do you guys remember the last Boy Scout? I do. Hey, what a great movie. Still a good movie it's it's fun That was my comfort movie in my 20s when I was like couldn't sleep or I just wanted to let I was I would always put last

Boy Scout on Shane black the guy who did he was in predator Yeah, did a Leitha weapon and all that stuff that's what what what was Damon way Damon's way and dead kid Alex right And he was always like the Alex the account to Alex the archaeologist. Yeah, it's a good movie It's a great movie Do you want to give a number rating to your coffee? I'd say this is like a Seven yeah, I put I put this coffee to seven seven five. It's fine

Let me see now. I got nothing against it. I would drink this again tomorrow. It's fine It's just we've been on too hot of a streak and we knew this was gonna happen. Seven point one. Yeah, like, again, I would come here again, no problem. I think, seven for the coffee, the ambiance is like, I hope people are digging the audio texture. I hope it's coming through. There's a lot.

It's charming on you. It's a dear rich. Right on River Sack. It's a fence though. Yeah, did some trees, some wood. That's a fence that dog could jump. Oh wood. That's a fence that dog could jump. Oh yeah, that's a fence, a gus could jump. This could have video for social.

In like a month when the weather's actually fall, you could spend six hours sitting here with your friends. Easy, I think it's gonna be fall this weekend. It is, have you seen that? Yeah, but we're going on a town. Yep, it's bullshit. Oh, I know, because then when we get back, the weather goes back up.

It's like, hey, hi, a 74. And I'm like, oh, awesome. Oh, wait, we're gonna fuck. Sucks. FL. FL. FL. FL.

FL. FL. FL. Oh, man. Yeah, I've been on a kick of old, like logos, old hagbot, one of the old SDSU Aztec hats. I was wearing that, but I don't know that, you know, that's like a logo they got away from

and then this old rock. Clearly, they got away from the logo. Yeah. Every now and then in the Austin subreddit, I'll see people looking for all ice bats. Oh yeah, hell yeah. Jersey's and logos and stuff, the old hockey team. Or Taurus.

Oh, forgot about them. Yeah. They do, when you go to round rock games now They sell a lot of like Senators gear about a Austin Senators hat and stuff. It's pretty cool It's it's nice that they see that stuff through Let's get into some anarchy questions. Hey, let's do it plural Yeah, I hear well, I'll lead with this one. We'll see where it takes us This is from Cynthia.

Hey, all my family died. Can you send me merch? Did I get it? Is it Gavin? It's a Gavin approach. It's smart. So this is from A Walters, O8. This is on the Anima podcast subreddit where you can leave us an in-erky question

if you like, or you can tweet at us. It's fine. I live in a small town in Pennsylvania, a population of 7,500. Now, we don't really have a lot of independently owned restaurants around. We've big franchise stuff like McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's Taco Bell, things like that.

Wish we had more of a variety, drive further and find it. Nice audio texture. It's a big truck. My question is, how often do you eat big chain restaurants when you have so many small business choices to choose from and support. Way more than I used to.

I absolutely agree with you. Yeah. When I was in my 30s, 20s and 30s, I only wanted to eat at local establishments and support local business. The problem with Austin is it grew to such a size that it's prohibitive to eat at those places now because of lines because they're doing so well. And so when you're in your 40s And you're out shopping and you're hungry

Sometimes you just go to the fucking cheesecake factory or carabas because it's close and there's there's a space in the parking lot I gotta say I feel like I've maintained it's really like probably 95% of the time. I'm out somewhere. It's a local establishment It's probably not that common that I go to change. The one exception that I'll carve out is like water burger. Yeah. That's like a local ass food. Yeah.

You know? By the way, they have great Hispanic heritage month merch. I just want to throw that out. They really, really, really, really, really, they fucking killed it. You're going to get me? I did. Did you really?

Yeah. But, yeah, for the most part, I eat a lot lot of local places and that makes you want to follow up on something we talked about before Remember we talked about that Thai place that closed down Yeah, they opened up it's what they didn't reopen, but a new place open your space Place opened up in that space and you Thai place opened up in that space and that place is fucking excellent So good. I'm gonna go check it out the other day, because that Thai place used to be was Emily's favorite restaurant.

Absolute favorite. And so, and she was heartbroken when it closed down. We haven't tried the new one yet. I think the new one's better than the old one. And I liked the old one. That's great. I went to Tatias for the first time. Tatias awesome.

I mean, I'd ordered from Tatias, but I'd never eaten in. Oh my God, dude. That place is excellent. It's awesome. I think we mentioned. People are dude. That place is excellent. It's awesome. I think we mentioned people are awesome. The place is awesome. It's so cute. I think we did talk about it.

We mentioned it once about how that place is so popular and does so well that I think they closed for like a year and a half for renovations. And then around the holidays, they'll just close for a couple of weeks at a time. Yeah. And be like, whatever, we're re-opening a couple of weeks. You'll come back.

Yeah. And it's always busy as hell. So you used to not have online ordering, and it used to be you had to call in a place and order, and that is the one time when I would call a place to place an order that they would consistently have busy signals. Like, I can't remember calling any place and getting a busy signal, except for calling to Tires. Back then, now they have online ordering. Yeah, I'll have to try that new's back there, now they have online ordering.

Yeah, I'll have to try that new place, although I'm kind of in love with Ty as after eating in there. So. But I would say I'm probably like 65, 35 at this point, like 65 local, 35 non-local. I'm more about convenience than anything, at this point in my life.

Yeah, and I think it probably used to be easier. Austin is still, I think, unusual in this aspect. It's not as extreme as it used to be, but I always felt like there was almost a lack of chains. Yeah, they used to definitely be more prevalent. There are more chains now than there used to be, but there was definitely, like, in the core of the city, there weren't very many.

Of course. Yeah, you're saying that, and I agree, however, if you look on Google maps for any number of chains within Austin, they're in Round Rock. There are so many shut down chains in the closest Apple Beases in Round Rock. DJF is up in Round Rock. DJF Friday is closed. You can't go to so many different places for face jam.

It's been really hard. Trying to find a lot of these chains that are still open and around and everything. Like Schlotsky's is like, oh, in the middle of, what is that? Anderson. Schlotsky's is local, though. It is.

And there are fewer now than there almost ever have been. It is really crazy. I don't know what it is. I think it's just getting priced out, having to franchise and having that stuff. The closest Carl's Jr. is in what Cedar Park or whatever. They're used to be one off of slaughter. Yeah, they're used to it. They're used to it.

Okay. They're all over the city is all that used to be here. Is there still a Del Taco down on slaughter? There is not a Del Taco in the city of Austin. Really? That was the only one. And I was excited about it. I don't, I'm not gonna beat the drum for Del Taco.

I enjoyed it growing up and I really liked it in college where I could get a half pound bean and cheese burrito for a dollar like right down the street from my house. I don't want it, but I miss it. I want to eat it one time and then be done with it, but the closest that it is, like, I'll go back to San Diego. I'm not gonna waste a fucking meal on Galpaco.

I hear you. Like, get real. But like, there's not one in Austin. And that, it's prevalent for like a lot of chains. There's one weenerschnitzel. There's like, culvers, like one culvers. It's two. There's one onenerschnitzel, there's like culvers, like one culvers, it's two. There's one up north on,

these two one down. There's one down, and then one down off of like Brody and Slot or somewhere in that area. Is there one right down there, South? It's man. I don't want to cramer still there. Yeah, that is.

I drove by it a couple of weeks ago. I went not too long ago. My wife wanted a mint shake, and you're saying, oh, mint chocolate chip, and I'm saying, no, mint, just mint and I'm saying no. Mint, just mint. I remember when that culver's up on Kramer opened, you and Bernie and I were really excited, and we went up there,

because we're like, what's a butter burger? Yeah. And then we had a, oh, it's just a burger. That's fine. I don't think we ever went back. You think they cook it with butter? Butterburgers are trick. But they got the curds.

They do, the cheese curds are good. I'm not a curd fan. And they got their concrets. No, that's, it's good. Concrets are good. Butterburger not a curd fan. And they got their concrets. No, that's, it's good. Concrets are good. Butter burger sounds like they cook it with butter. They put butter on like the top of the bun. Yeah.

And it's like that makes up, that sucks. Fuck that. Fuck that. I was like Culver's. It's fine. Yeah. I had nothing against it. I haven't been there in years, but I like Culver's.

I used to eat at Culver's when I went back to the old job before research. Like I feel like Culver's was really popular in the Midwest. I spent a lot of time in the Midwest. Culver's one of those places I used to eat at Culver's when I met the old job before research teeth. Like I feel like Culver's was really popular in the Midwest and I spent a lot of time in the Midwest. Culver's one of those places I used to eat at on the road. Really? Pretty regularly. It was Culver's and there was like a diner that they have up in the Midwest

that we don't have here that I used to eat at because it was like a 24 hour place. And since I was on the road working IT, I'd have to eat like at three or four in the morning a lot. God, what was that place called? They had pies, that's all I remember about it. Oh, fuck. Marie calendar?

No, no, no. It's like a diner only in the Midwest. It was like in Wisconsin. You used to eat there all the time. Anyway, it'll come to me later. I miss, when I lived on the East Coast, we would eat at this place called Friendly's all the time. I think I've heard of it.

I've never been away. Friendly's is great. It's where you go to get like huge banana splits and like ice cream floats and stuff, but they also have food and shit. I always I always when I moved to Austin I was always sad that there wasn't a friendlies here. Well, we have the friendly spirit We used to How about we'll do one more in the will wrap. I'll keep it a little shorter. Did two in a row two days

Yeah, I'm doing my coffee anyway. It's from great and Britain great and What's the best local Austin snack food? Oh. Local Austin snack food. Is there a snack that you think of when you think of Austin? Is there like a snack food? Is there like something that? Well, I mean,

if I'm thinking of like something that's specific to Austin, it's gonna end up being like, something barbecue related. Uh-huh. And this, and my answer might be something that's not necessarily native to Austin, but maybe more native to the region. It would be like Frito pies.

It's like Frito pies big, you know, in the South and in Texas in general. Pork rinds, I feel like are big. Pork rinds. But they were big in Alabama when I grew up too. So Austin snack food. I mean, I guess we have a couple local tortilla companies, right? Yeah, that's a tough one to try to think about.

Because as much as I think of Austin food, I don't, I can't think of a snacky thing that, I mean, we say that, but you can't go to a restaurant in Austin without getting chips and salsa. So I guess I would have to say that. Oh, I think, I mean, it would probably be K-so. I would think. Yeah, and I kind of put that in the same bucket

with fruit or pie, because even though I said that, I feel like those are both San Antonio things. Well, I was gonna say, we've got El Molago, right? But that's San Antonio, yeah. I was gonna say, we've got El Molago, right? But that's a San Antonio deal. I think we should have an awesome location. Yeah. I would think Keso is probably the thing

that is like a snacky food that if I were to like go back to San Diego, like if it was like you open a restaurant. Keso would be the thing. I don't, we never really had Keso at all growing up and man, it's fucking good. How about Juiceland? Oh, that's interesting.

Smoothies. We have a lot of smoothies. With this local company called Juice Land, there's another one called the Daily Juice. They're very popular. There's a lot of juice places in Austin. Yeah, when I go get a haircut, my barbell message mean he goes,

what's the playboy? Can you grab me a juice on the way? I got it. Yeah, I think I maybe would say that because Juice Land is thriving. Yeah, there's 30 of them. It's a nice cool drink to have on a brutal 110 degree day.

Yeah, right. In the Austin summer. Slurp up those liquefied berries. Well, I think that'll do it for Anma. This is a good one. This is fun. This was fun. I like being down here in this area.

Yeah, dude, it's like being home again, kind of. I think we'll drive down to Riverside to get out of here. Let's do it. Do some reminiscent. Well, if you want to follow us on social You can't add and ma pod cast on Twitter and on Instagram. There's also a subreddit that we do not run our slash and Mapod cast you can leave us questions at any of those places you can also see pictures Remember when I got stuck under the gate at the matropolis?

I don't know why just thought about that You got stuck under the I was drunk and trying to get back into my apartment. And they dropped me off at the wrong gate and the gate wouldn't open, so I thought, I'll crawl under it, because it was like a little bit of a gap and I got stuck. I was drunk at like three in the morning. Then I had to like, like, unspit myself

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