ANMA - Learning How to Prioritize in Our Burn Out Era

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

Good Morning, Gus! Coming to you from Buzz Mill Coffee on Riverside, this episode of ANMA goes waaaay back. Find out why Geoff couldn't eat fast food for like 5 years, Gus learning how to throw up, becoming regulars at liquor stores, signing rooster teeth contracts at Baby A’s, and our first commercial work. ANMA is sponsored by Better Help (http://betterhelp.com/anma), Shady Rays (http://shadyrays.com + code ANMA), and Red Web. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What would you do if you had the freedom to be anyone or to go anywhere without limitations? Start your journey and experience for yourself the feeling of total freedom when you game with Alienware. Alienware is your portal to new worlds where limits don't exist and the only rules are the ones you decide to make. Defy boundaries and start gaming now at Alienware.com. Next-gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. This is a rooster teeth production. So, we had something weird happen at the end of last episode when we finished recording, where we wrapped up, we were at that park over by Deer Diary Coffee. And right before we had started recording at that park, there was like a city crew,

like cutting the grass, and trimming everything. And I was a little worried about, there was too much audio texture, but they finished right as we were going to start recording, so it was fine. And then we left and there was like a city of Austin van parked right next to the park and we walked by it as we were walking back to the car. And like some lady rolled down the window and just like yelled out at us like, hey, what's your podcast called? And I just said, and I kept walking and Eric was nice enough to stay and clarify ANMA.

You got us a fan that day, Eric. One, they're in a city of Austin, man. I think if you like, they were waiting for us to leave so they could do whatever work they needed to do. Probably. On that part. I like your shirt, Gus. Thank you. Since it's an audio podcast, Gus is wearing a Hawaiian shirt,

which he tends to do a lot these days. But this one's got like a kind of a navy blue backing, like under color, and then some really pretty line drawn, green and yellow flowers. Yeah, that's... And a monster relieves. Did you get that in Hawaii? I did.

Yeah. Do you buy all of your clothes in Hawaii? No. No, not at all. But an amount. I mean, some. Yeah. I buy most of my clothes here in Austin.

Is it just because you can't get it, you can only get those there. This one, yeah. Yeah. Is it for my girlfriend? Is it only a favorite designer? No, I think that's the first time I've been in that store. Oh, really? Yeah, I don't remember what it was called.

Okay. Was it in a Wahoo? Yes. It was. Good morning, guys. Good morning. I just need everyone to know that the conversation that's happening right now is so disparate from the conversations

that we were having in a car. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Oh boy. So we're at BuzzMail today, which is off a riverside. And I've been wanting to come back to this part of town because we lived in this area for so long. Yeah. This is like just south of the river, right off of Riverside. You used to live not too far in that direction. I used to live not too far in that direction

that I lived with you. Yeah. So we have like a lot of old stories in this part of town from the late 90s or early 2000s. How long did you live down here? I lived, I think I owned that house for like, well, I owned it for a while until they took it for me and then I had to buy it back. I lived there, I want to say like six and a half, seven years somewhere on there, I think, because we lived there for about a year after we stopped

telling that work. Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, I worked at TNI for six years. Yeah, I lived here for three years, then I moved away to a different part of town. Then I came back and lived with you for a while. This was where a lot of our formative times happened. I know we're just driving in here. Yeah. We were just pointing out shit to Eric. And there's a lot.

There is, there is a lot. I looked around here. It's kind of a disgusting story. Uh, uh, uh, you taught me how to vomit if I drank too much right over here. Did I really? Yeah, I was, man, behind the dairy queen? The dairy queen was here. Those apartments were not here. I forget what was there before, but it was right over here.

Those worse apartments, I think. Well, where were we drinking? Remember I had a thing where I would, I had, we were both heavy drinkers back then. And I would drink a bunch and I would never vomit. And you'd always convince me, if you just get it out of your system, you'd keep drinking. And finally I gave in and you taught me how to do it

right over here. I remember one time we went to Hula Hut and we were trying to drink Hula laws, which is this really sugary drink they serve you in a fish bowl. And it's like, not at all gimmicky. Not at all gimmicky. Just, just and it's like not at all gimmicky not at all gimmicky just just it's like red sugar and booze in a fucking fish bowl and I remember

Gus and I were trying to see how many we could drink or something yeah and we had that we kept taking turns to go throw up outside and come back in to keep it off there because it's right on the water so you throw up off the railing into the water and the ducks would come and eat it. So, it's the less clamor side about coldness. Not great. That wasn't like we were just at Hula Hut. It was like an event. Someone was having to get together or something. Yeah. We ruined a lot of events. We went to a wedding once. Oh, you talking about Brian's wedding? No, no, no, we should talk about that one. We went to a wedding once, Eric, where there was an open bar and the bride and the groom

had capped the open bar at a certain amount. And we drank through that amount before the reception ended. Yeah. Then the, you know, the bartenders had to go to the bride and groom and ask them if they wanted to extend and they did. And then we drank through the extension and the bar owners had to go to the bride and groom again and tell them they drank through the extension. They wanted to extend, but the bar was out of alcohol. That's right. We had drank all of the alcohol in the bar. We had a little, you know, obviously there were other people there.

But we were the driving force behind it. Briding groom not happy with us. They were not happy at all. It was a lot of money. It was a very fancy venue here in town and we drank a lot of alcohol. That being said, we celebrated their wedding. Yeah, it was a celebration of their love.

Super festive. I heard a burning guy really mad at us one time. So we went to this wedding for a coworker. It was actually the guy who let Dan Godwin work at RT for free. Or at a teleneur for free. And we went to this guy's wedding and there was like, every table had a- Like a centerpiece.

Had a centerpiece and then the centerpiece was like a little cheap bottle of like Kianti. Okay. It was gross. It had like flowers taped out. Oh yeah. Like glued on to it and shit. And it was like, I think it was like probably like

$7 or can't eat that you go buy it like World market and it was it was more about the set dressing Yeah, but as we were leaving it was just sitting there so custom like grabbed I don't know all of it We started collecting them all and like there was like maybe 30 tables and so Gus and I had like Arms folks were like we're not gonna there's gonna throw this away and Bernie came over and yelled at us It was like what the fuck are you doing? It's just gonna go to waste fucking Gremlin You're in 30 bottles of cheap wedding wine. If she needs I mean it's not as bad as you make it sound

You also got to take it to consideration you're dudes in their mid to late 40s are telling you this story, but we were barely legal at the time. I was like, yeah. I was 23 maybe. Oh, no, you were, I was 24 maybe, 20. Yeah, because I was a couple years between us. I was definitely 21. Yeah, no, I'm passing judgment now,

but at the time I would have been doing the exact same thing. 100%. We would have been like, all this free wine. I think it's one of the things that pisses me off about this place Buzz Mill coffee shop that we're at. Cause it's like a coffee shop bar and it's very like lumberjack themed. It's very like Pacific Northwest.

It's very Austin punk rock tattoo culture. This is, it's got the same vibe as like, Jackalow, Lil darlin, of emos in the old days, like it is very much of that scene, and if this place would have existed, when we lived here, it would have been fucking awesome. But they built it fuck ten years after we moved.

Wait, later than that. And now I don't drink, and I'm certainly not gonna come back here to get coffee on a regular basis, so I'm just, I'm annoyed at their timing. I hate them because they came too late. Well, everything, like I'm looking around, like where we are, we're on the back

padter. There's not much of a view. I can't really see. They have these dispenses everywhere. But what I can see is all, I don't remember any of this. No. This is all new. There's a, we're next to a dairy queen. That was here. Uh, but all this other shit is all new. I don't remember. We're right by the Oracle headquarters, which is where it used to be where there was an apartment complex where I lived, that was the Damp apartment. Yeah. It was right over here.

And it was like the cheapest place you could live in Austin. It was like right here. And now, you know, there's all these, you know, quote unquote luxury apartments I can see all around us here. The cheapest place to live in Austin was on the water? Yeah, it was right over here. Dude, you don't understand. It was scary though.

It was like, it was real scary. It was like, don't go out once the sun goes down. It made no sense. Wow. It makes no sense why this part of town was such prime real estate that was just so shoddy. But it really was. He's right. You didn't go, it's not where, like if you wanted to go to town like,

even though it was right here, you drive across the intersting and go, go on, that's right. Now of course, absolutely, it's fucking gorgeous. You get, like, take any opportunity to get anywhere you can. But, it's cleaned up, but I would say, in my time in Austin, probably more than any other area,

Riverside might be the street with the most amount of change. In terms of like being unra, I mean, it's still a ugly, messy street, but every block is significantly different. It was consistently voted the ugliest street in Austin. Do you? Time and time again, do you? Yeah.

I bought a house right off Riverside, 23 years old, very excited, very proud of myself, bought my first house. Three weeks later, got the chronicle on the cover Riverside, Ugliest Street in Austin. But again, it was like, yeah, again. Wow, you were on the cover of the car. It was like a running thing. And back before Ben White was a freeway, you used to have lights on it down over here. So to get to the airport, you would drive down Riverside.

This is the way you would get to the airport. So that's my memory, because before Ruchitita had that other job where I would travel, and I lived over here in the series, I remember always driving down Riverside, pre-dawn to get out to the airport going out in that direction. Obviously all that traffic's redirected now.

That area was under construction for 10 years. Yeah. Like to make Ben White that freeway down there. At least. It was just like a joke. Yeah, it was awful. Yeah. The way the traffic went back up over there.

And I remember there's some McDonald's down right there, right off of Ben White's, real close to the call center where he used to work. Okay, yeah, yeah. And I don't know if you remember how dangerous that intersection was, like where you would turn, because you would have to drive by that McDonald's to get to the call center back down where we worked

if you're coming off of Ben White back then. And I felt like at least once a week when the employees was getting into an accident right there at that McDonald's they'd be like, why are you late? I'm like, my car's all fucked up, I got hit in front of the warehouse, they got into the parking lot and it's like, oh yeah, they're not full of shit, they're car, they got T-bone at the McDonald's. That was also after T and I moved and we were in the second location on Burleson. We were next to a Wendy's. Yeah, I don't know if you remember that,

like we could walk out of it. I lived off that junior baking cheeseburger. Yeah, I don't know if you remember that like we could walk out I lived I lived off that junior baking cheeseburger Yeah, we could walk out and just walk right on that when he's I stopped eating fast food for about Five years maybe six years because of that windies well in part because of that windies one because I was driving through I was driving to visit my mom in Alabama and I stopped at a Taco Bell on I tin in East Texas like around Vider, which is not a place you should stop in. Do not go. No, stay away from Vider. But I was starving. Have you heard stories of Vider? I don't think so.

Most racist time in America. Oh, that's the place, though. I just didn't know about it. Sorry, because I don't know that place by date. I don't know the Vider. If you live in Texas long enough, you just, you kind of learn about it. You know it.

You know it, throughout the most of the year. And so there was a girl who took my order. She had an open sore on her lip, and I watched it drip onto the countertop, and I was like, that's rough. And then I went to the Wendy's one time and got a little cup of chili and I had a bandaid in it.

And I was like, that's it, I'm done. I can't eat fast food, but I, anymore. And I didn't for a very long time. That Wendy's sustained me for so many years with the 99 cent junior bacon cheeseburgers. Just like I remember being broke and it was like, I would either order a pizza from Papa Johnson, eat off it for a couple of days,

or eat like one or two junior bacon cheeseburgers from that Wendy's down there. But also down in that area, like segue into a little more recent, like a little bit more Rister teeth times, it was, or it's still there, that post office, which is the one right down by the call center, the one that we went to for years,

you should have stuff out for our mailbox. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the saddest, and I know post offices don't generally have like the most welcoming atmosphere, but that post office is the saddest and simultaneously angriest post office I've ever been to. Like even from the outside,

like you park in the parking lot and you look at it and it's just got this read, I don't know how to properly describe it. I would say it's like almost like a reduced brutalistic architecture look to it or it's like you look at it and you're like, this looks like a fortress. Like this place does not look like they want you

to come inside. We'd have to go there all the time to mail stuff out when we were, you know, in the early days, we were just like mailing store orders or mailing e-sav. Yeah, and that's where our PO box was. Yeah, we had a PO box there. And it's just awful.

I can't believe that it's untouched. It looks like something out of the late 70s, early 80s, and it's just like, nothing has changed about it. I couldn't. I wouldn't be surprised if they put spikes up on the front door. I thought all post offices were like that post office because who goes to a post office when you're a teenager?

Not very often, right? And that's not as my early 20s. That was when we were hitting it like three or four times a week because we had to get our team mail and we had to mail off the DVDs and shit. And we would also, that's also where we would go to get the AOL CDs we would prank each other with. Yeah, I forgot about that.

And I thought all post offices sucked because those people and that place sucked, but turns out there's some lovely post offices in town. Not that one, that one is awful. That's why we use stamps.com. Hey, there you go. You know, void having to go to that post office. But yeah, I remember there was,

I don't know if this was before your time at the call center, and I only worked there like a year before you showed up. So it might have been in that time, but do you remember there was that breakfast taco place right across the street? Happy taco, yeah. Yeah, I was just.

It was still open when you were out there. We would always like, Anthony, we get this happy taco sometimes. We'd always have that. You'd have the back or a pack or a sack, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, that's bacon, egg and cheese, sausage, egg and cheese, potato, egg and cheese. I know, you'd have the back or a pack or a sack, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was like, that's bacon, egg and cheese, sausage, egg and cheese, potato egg and cheese. I know, you cracked the code.

I've never, I don't think I've ever heard anybody call them back pack, sack. Yeah. Okay. Every now and then I still look on the internet trying to find an old happy taco shirk zone. I remember these old shirts and it was just like a taco with a face on it. And it just said like in bubbly like a Cooper font or something like happy taco Across the top. I'm gonna guess they're not still around. Oh, no, no They were gone even when we were working at the call center. Oh, where they yeah, yeah, they were not there anymore

Oh, that's right because like a sandwich shop opened up. Yeah, yeah, that's right So down the street from there was the sketchiest Dirtiest business. I never went there for, I drove bikes just by where we worked. But this was the, You and a lot of, for somebody was, his car was in the bike a lot multiple times.

Just a bunch of caveats. Before he explained anything. This place was sketchiest hell, I don't remember this joke. I don't remember this. Down the road from the call center was this business called Mermaids. Oh!

Ha! Ha! That's right, that's right. Where it was a hot tub rental place, but not like you get the hot tub deliver to your house. Like you used a hot tub there, and you could hire a mermaid to get in the hot tub with you. Yeah. It was like a hot tub, it was like a hot tub hand job.

It was a hot tub hand job. Hot tub hand job. Hot tub hand job. Hot tub hand like a hot tub hand job. Hot tub hand job still a place. Oh a place? What? Yeah. Mer-me-me. It was there for years. And I remember I would always drive on

and be like, what the fuck? Like, I can't believe that place is still here. It was there for a long time. Ugh. I never saw any of those mermaids. I think. Well, you know, you've heard it here. Mermaids are real.

Mermaids private hot tub rental. Yep. Oh, is it still there? Eric's looking on his phone. I'm looking, I'm looking it up. It's listed under massage. Yelpers report that this location is closed. Ah. I guess it didn't survive the pandemic.

You think that's what it did? Yeah, I just feel like, I feel like, even though that's not Riverside, that's a little further south. Austincommunity.livejournal.com is where I'm finding more information about hot tub hourly. Oh, this rules, wow. I feel like that's just indicative of the change

this entire part of town has gone under. It went from a little dangerous kind of CD to very like oracles headquarters. Yeah, this coffee shop, like you look around like there's so much change. There's a condo place. So remember there used to be the world's most expensive vent was right down there next to the liquor store. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. We were inside that.

Yeah, now it's like a luxury condo. First liquor store where I ever was a regular at was right, the Riverside liquor right here. The one next to Thundercoat? Yeah, oh, yeah. It's the first place I ever got recognized like as a regular. I right? The Riverside liquor right here. The one next to Thundercoat? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, that was the first place I ever got recognized, like as a regular. I thought it was so cool.

I only ever went to that store two or three times. I can't remember where I would go to buy liquor back then. Really? Yeah, I would go there. It's weird. I know the first place I ever went to buy liquor at when I turned 21, right after I turned 21, got my ID. It was that Centennial liquor on West 6th,

which is kind of by Whole Foods, well, I guess was. It just closed like a year ago, I think. It's like a pizza slice place now. It's called Favorite Pizza. Oh yeah, that's right. It's really good. It's a New York Metz themed like pizza slice place, like a New York, it's all blue and orange,

and they have those, like tons of Metz stuff everywhere. Which is right by some old Austin institutions which are closed now, they were very beloved, but I never really liked Hutz hamburgers and Franken-Angies. Yeah, I liked Franken-Angies. Hutz, I never got. I will say though, interesting thing about that place is there was this beloved hamburger restaurant called Hutz, and it eventually, it'd been around for like 60 years. It eventually closed down, I think, as the owner wanted to retire,

and they made it into an Italian restaurant called Samis. And I didn't know this. I ate there recently, it was okay. It was hard to get a reservation for how okay it was. But it used to be, I didn't know this, but before it was Huts, it was an Italian restaurant called Samis. Really? Like back in the 40s?

Yeah, so they like, so they like brought back that brand. I never, like as Frank and Angie's was the better of those two restaurants, but the thing that I always liked about those places was that the employees always wore the opposite shirts. Yeah. So we went to Frank and Angie's all the way

to the were in huts shirts. And we went to huts all the way to the were in Frank and Angie's shirts. That's awesome. And if Frank and Angie's was such a stereotypical like cheap Italian restaurant like you would go in and they had a good fellow's poster and a big night poster and like a scar face poster and a mermaid's poster speaking of

Mermaid's Ian and they were all just like framed with that like $10 Walmart frame with plastic and the black sliders. And then all of the tables had green and white checker-boarded, like vinyl tops. And then there was fake vines everywhere. Just like, like, Hobby Lobby vines everywhere. And if you wanted to go and get like a $7 bake ZD,

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Yes talked about living down here, but you want, is this where the call center, like the call center was down here? Pretty close. It was just, just off of Ben White, like if you take one of these roads down here, down pass Ben White, it's right over there. So like you were spending a lot of time just south of the river, right? Like almost all of them. Yeah, like north of the river was far away.

Really? Yeah, except like downtown, we would go downtown, but I don't know if I really went north of the river other than that I don't think I'm a bowling yeah we ever went north of seventh street probably back in those days there was no real reason to we would park north of seventh street so there was a when there was a Texas State Teacher Association well there was a principal association wasn't it that was that was it uh whenever we'd go downtown there was a like the principal association, wasn't it? That was other words. Whenever we would go downtown, the principal association building was like at Red River and 11th or 12th, I think.

And you could park there after hours and they wouldn't tow you and you'd have to pay. So we would always park over there and they'd like walk down to 6 or 7th Street. Now they have a gate up. You can't do that anymore. But it was like one of those loopholes that we found where it's like, oh, you can park in this parking lot. Nobody's here and they won't tow you. You can't do that anymore.

Now you gotta pay a bunch of money. You know what else we're really close to? We're really close to the movie theater where Gus and his parents went on their first date. Oh, I heard about that. That's not a movie theater anymore. That's just like three blocks away. Wow, right.

Next block down. We missed the turn and almost saw it. Yeah, that's true. We did miss the turn coming down. Oh, this is different. Like, and I never come down here anymore. So it's like, it's really confusing. It was Gus driving going, Where's the dairy queen?

Yeah, you I know what's by the dairy queen. There it is Gus brought up something a story on the way in we passed by a place called Baby A's baby a cappocos, which is a Austin like a local Mexican chain. There's three of them I believe are there I think this is the last one. Oh, no, there's one up it like the Arboretum. There is yeah I want to that one all the time there so there used to be one here Oh, no, no. There's one up at like the Arboretum. There is? Yeah. I wanted to add that one all the time. So there used to be one here. There used to be one on Barton Springs. There used to be the one on 35 that closed.

So I guess there's two now. And that is where we told the story recently about the dude, the Saw String and Loan Stars and told us that as to where we were from, because nobody from Austin Drinks and Loan Stars, it was that place, but it was also where Gus put up a really funny story. It's where we all signed our initial contracts to start rooster teeth.

Like we went there for lunch one day, like maybe three in the afternoon, and it was me, you, Jason, and Bernie. Those are the people I remember. I think Matt was living in LA at the time, if I remember. So it had just been me, you, Jason, and Bernie, yeah. As far as I remember, yes. And we went there and Bernie wanted us to sign, uh, I don't know, just contracts or whatever, to make it all official.

And Gus and I signed ours and Jason was drunk. And we had all started venturing in those, those, uh, those frozen margaritas. What are they called? Oh, well, they have the blues. Baby blues or whatever. They have blues, they have the Superman, they have so many, there's the purple one. Oh, the purple ones, like blues. Baby blues or whatever. They have blues. They have the Superman. They have so many. There's the purple one.

Oh, the purple ones. Yeah. The purple ones like crazy. The purple you can't have more than two. The purple ones, the one that Bernie tells the story about he had one on his, like he had, I think one on the 90 turn 21 and he just, it was just the next day. Oh my God. I want to say, I don't want to steal the story and I don't want to mistell it, but I think it was something like that.

What we've been drinking those. We've been drinking those. And we went to there a lot, actually. We were big baby ace fans. I guess it was proximity. Anyway, and Jason kept signing his, like this doesn't count. This isn't legally binding, I'm drunk. And he went to sign it up for the longest time.

And then when he did, he just kept doing that. And eventually we gave up. And then he was like signing it with his left hand. That way it didn't look like it was a real signature. Oh, angry at Jason that day. And Jason was so frustrated. It was so frustrating. We were all obnoxious in our own ways.

And it was just like whoever was taking the turn being a pain in the ass. Yeah. It was Jason that day. Oh, man. I think that might be the last time I've been in that BBA. Probably me too. I don't know if I've been back there since then. I was like, oh, three, oh, four. I think maybe the other last time I went to BBA, or the last time I went been in that BBA. Probably me too. I don't know if I've been back there since then. I was like, oh, three, oh, four.

I think maybe the other last time I went to BBA, or the last time I went to any BBAs was after that when Bernie and I did the Martin Sargent interview for tech TV. Oh my God. We did it at a remote facility. It's like I'm Westlaker somewhere. And then we drove back home and we stopped at BBAs

on Barton Springs and celebrated with purples or blues or whatever the fuck it was and then nobody ever saw our care. We thought that was one of those things where you do it and you think like, all right, we've made it now. We're big time. I mean, you saying that was me going, whoa, that's awesome. And I think if you were to tell anyone else, they would just go, they interviewed who on what?

Yeah, what are you talking about? Let's get Leo Laporte going. Oh God. I've thought, that's a name I haven't heard in a long time. That was like one time we, and we talked about Sway from MTV coming to visit us. And we did a few things with MTV back in the day. And I remember this one point,

we had, we made a PSA for MTV for some reason and they aired it prime time on TRL. Carson Daily, I think, actually presented it. And we were so fucking excited. I think we bought extra server space because we were ready for an influx. We've got more bandwidth for the servers and everything. And that, I learned a valuable lesson that day,

that I remember watching it in my living room and then going to the computer to see, and it was crickets. Yeah. It was like any other day. There was humble weeds. They were like, oh, this doesn't mean anything. Yeah.

It doesn't mean anything. It has zero impacts. Zero impact. We made quite a few videos for MTV around that time. Like just little bumpers and MTV too, also. I don't even know why. And that had no effect on anything. I don't know what that we did.

I think we might have. Maybe a little bit. It's funny how many, in those early days, the hustle, just how many little projects, I thought that's a little project, but how many weird projects you take on just to try to make a little more money and see what's fixed and see what happens. There was one year where we made a bunch

of videos for the NCAA, for them to play in college football stadiums when plays happened on the field. We would stockpile a bunch of different possibilities of teams in different scenarios in NCAA college football. And then if the scenario happened on the field, they could play like a re quote unquote replay that we had previously captured in. It was like a six second interstitial genius. We did. It was genius. That's genius.

Except it was thousands of shots. It was it was. It was a hell. I remember it was hell. So Gavin Gavin was a big part of this too because he was Interning that summer with us and we played NCAA football for three weeks like 15 hours a day We turned in I want to say 1600 videos and then and they're all four to six seconds long and it was sorry

On top of that do you remember there was another project going on simultaneously? Was that a... The Mountain Dew thing, yeah. So we had to film those 1600 videos or whatever for NCAA. And then on top of that, there was this promotion that I want to say it was Mountain Dew was doing at the time where you like unscrew your top and there's a code and you play on the website. And if you like get a, it would show you like a replay of a video game, like a football game. And if the replay you watch score to touchdown or score it whatever, then you want a prize. So we had to make another couple thousand of those videos of getting close to scoring and not.

Scoring, getting shut down immediately. So we had these giant spreadsheets that we printed out and you would hand someone a stack of paper and be like, this is the 300 shots you need to get today. Yeah. And it was like, it was like, we had to go through, I don't remember that one as well, but I remember very well the NCAA when we were doing, uh, for the initial 1600, whatever they would basically took like every major

college football team. So, uh, I don't know, Clemson. And you would say, okay, if Clemson, and you'd have to get a shot, let's you go, I need to Clemson to score, uh, from the goal line, uh, I need them to say, okay, if Clemson, and you'd have to, you've got a shot, let's you go, I need to Clemson to score from the goal line. I need them to pass a 40 yard touchdown or longer. I need them to run for a touchdown. I need them to run and get stopped on the two yard line. You had, and you had like 12 different scenarios that you just had to film over and over

and over and over again for every team. It was the most line numbing thing. And it's not like you could set it up and trigger it. You have to play the game. Exactly what I was about to bring up, like people are saying, oh man, that's probably that's like a lot of videos. If you don't play sports games, those are like so specialized moments that yeah, happen a lot in a game, but not when you need them to. If you can't live film it, so you have to shoot it and then go into theater mode, you have

to go into the replay. The NCAA replay mode and then can it that way. And then, you know, with fucking keyframes and shit. And then, I forgot about that. And then, do the next setup and like, okay, now we gotta like, now you score real fast so that we can be back on the fight. And then like, don't tackle me. Let me run to the 10 year I've learned.

And you're like, and all we could do is fuck with sliders. Like we don't have special versions of that. Well, I mean, we have early versions of the game. And then I remember this, like, let's say you were trying to set up a game like Jeff and I are playing against each other to set this game up. Jeff has the ball. He like, don't tackle me.

I need to get to the 10 yard line. So my job would be to take control of whatever NPC is closest to him, trying to stop him and move them all away. So it's like just trying to constantly switch to the closest player and run him in the opposite direction to try to get the play set up. That was so much work. That was hard work, man.

That's a lot of work. You're talking about that, this MTV thing, it's a mountain dew thing, it's college football thing. It's a lot of like banner pieces, right? And those aren't, I feel like, those aren't worth it in the way that people think they're going to be worth it. Like, like, those are things that you can put on a company resume to be like, we've done work with the NCAA,

and Mountain Dew, and MTV, and all of this stuff, but no one is, that's to hopefully build credibility like down the road, right? For the record, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't think it was just to be clear. I don't think it was directly for the NCAA. It might have been for ESPN. Or it was like a separate company.

Yeah, it was for ESPN or an ad agency or something. Yeah, and it was like, we weren't working directly with them. It was like through an intermediary. We did do some stuff specifically for ESPN though, because I remember somebody had to get on a plane and a hand deliver of a hard drive. Right, it was like we were working on it till the last minute.

And it was like we got to a point where we can either upload this now or we can work on it a little longer and take it on a hard drive up to Connecticut and deliver it to ESPN tomorrow. Who does Brandon? Who does Brandon? Brandon on a plane with a hard drive to ESPN to turn it in. Yeah. Yeah. That's all he did. He flew to Connecticut, stripped to ESPN, dropped off a hard drive,

then went wrecked to the airport, and flew back to Austin. This is like 2008, maybe. It would have been downtown. Yeah. 2009. And that's not the work we were doing. We talked about it,

but I guess we didn't have podcasts back then. But that's the, I think the stuff that people didn't see, that we were doing almost since day one. Like I remember the first commercial project we did to my recollection, you might remember differently, was those Xbox kiosk videos. Oh yeah.

And those came to us by around episode six of Red versus really. Six or seven, Microsoft hired us to make little interstitial videos for all of the kiosks at all of the like the wal-marts and targets and best buys in America. And so we would have to like I remember we had to do like a top spin one. That was also that flying crimson skies. Crimson skies. So whatever hot games are where we had to come up with like a 30 second funny video that would play between the demos. And I remember that because it was the first work we did and it was super informational or informative

because we learned very quickly, oh, not every video game is Halo. Like we can't recreate what we're doing in other games. This is the first time I got in, I realized how difficult Machinima was or what a perfect Storm Halo was in the way that it allowed us to film and tell a story. And boy, we butter our heads against that for,

until we fucking till I gave up on my show. I remember those projects because I got all the sell out marketing lines. It was always my job to deliver those. Yeah, we always did that. Man, I can't keep doing that. It was always, I've already loved to do that. I know.

It was his way of fucking with you. And he was super laughing the whole time He was doing it too. God. It would be like a mouthfuls of marketing material I remember those because my mom would go to the Walmart in our in mobile Alabama and stand there and anytime Somebody walked up should go my son made that. Oh my god. Yeah That's awesome. Yeah, and then I want to say right around then we started doing corporate videos. Oh, yeah, you're like Bill Gates is giving a conference at some developers thing Steve bomber as well Steve bomber whoever we need you to do like these three minute videos

Uh, we did a bunch of those then we got the game stop manager's conference videos Yeah, and we did those for many years and then by the end of season one of Red versus Blue, I wanna say, season one of Red versus Blue was 20 episodes? No, 19, 19, 19 or 20 episodes. And I wanna say by the end of, by the time we put that DVD out, we had probably made 40 commercial videos at that point. And we were making them like two to one.

And it probably went that way for a decade. We also made the Bernacolid ladies videos that they showed their concerts. Yeah, at their concerts. That was wild. I was only became friends with that and those guys. But yeah, it was some of those videos like you kind of hinditude be like, yeah, we're going to show this video on screen and then Bill Gates is going to come out and give a speech. Yeah. Like what? Like we have a signed copy of Halo 2 signed by Bill Gates because of one of those videos. Yeah. Yeah. Well, to why?

We have this 24 by 36 poster of Halo 2 and Bill Gates signed it and like 10 point type. And it's like, do, do, do, do, do. I don't even know if we still have it. It was around. It was in our office for years. That's crazy. Yeah.

Same thing with Steve Balmer. And I mean, I don't, we just had tons of work. Of course, with Microsoft. It was. It was a great time because we had a great relationship with Microsoft, but we were also, and this is how we got, we talked about the fuck, audio texture. It's a queerly audio texture. It's Jesus.

It's either a car that needs a, I think it's the serpentine belts about to go out or a tear and act hole. It was a super interesting time for us because we had a great relationship with Microsoft but also going to win like we got the call from the ad agency and said we heard you guys, are you the guys to get paid to play video games? Yeah you guys the guys to play video games for it. We were the only game in town so we got so many gigs because we were the only people that knew how to do it and that we're set up to do it. And it became this balance that we fought internally about a lot and we struggled with

which was how to take on enough work, win to say no, and win to prioritize our own IP. And that was a lot of what we were trying to do and that was we were getting burned out like that era where we were doing them. We did a bunch of mountain do shit. It wasn't just that. Remember we did the Mountain Dew video or it might have been that period where we had to say 5,000 different names. We had to record.

Oh yeah, yeah. It was the same project, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Cause like it said the person's name's like Carl, Mike, Steve. And so we had to record. I think what said the person's name? I think that when they would redeem the code and they would see like the play.

Why? I don't remember. I don't remember. But I think my ex-wife had to read them all. Yeah, it was. That's insane. It was, dude, it was so much work. And we also, we looked at, and we're like, we're sick of working in other people's intellectual property. We were already having this problem with RVB, like we loved RVB, but Microsoft owned it. It was an hours. And that was, that was all super informative. that burnout era when we were doing, that was by the way, when we were doing the NCAA stuff that 1600 videos, the Mountain Dew stuff,

that was also the exact same time, Gus and I were going out to California and Oregon for two, three weeks of time, doing commercial gigs. And we were still making red versus blue, like a motherfucker and all that other stuff. I joke, if you look, there's like photos of me around that time period where I have really long hair. And people ask me like, why did you let your hair

get that long? I had no time to get a haircut. Like not an exaggeration, like there was no free time. Like for a year and a half, I couldn't cut my hair. Every waking hour was doing something. I got so burned out at that point, I turned physically gray for a couple of weeks, and I went to the doctor.

Like my wife and at the time in Bernie, were both like, you gotta go to the doctor, and I went to the doctor and the doctor was like, you're just tired, man. And I'm like, but I'm physically gray and he's like, that's weird, but you just need to get some sleep. But it was super informative because we were getting burned out

and the money was good, but nobody wanted to do that forever. And so it really helped push us in the direction of achieve my hunter, Ruby, Gus starting podcasts in the broadcast department, like really trying to create our own IP that we would own, and so that we didn't have to work enough. You did not get as much.

Getting notes from someone about. Oh, yeah, getting notes to death. But also, you like, you know, if you're gonna put your work into something, you might as well put it into your thing. Yeah, if you have the luxury. When we were doing all that, there was a period of time where we were not video game developers. And there was a period of time where we had a bunch

of game console development kits. And a large part of my job became learning how to manage all of these developer kits, how to push out firmwares to them, how to manage the network of all of this. And when we would do these developer kits, how to push out like firmwares to them, how to manage like the network of all of this. And like when we would do these trips to, you know, and I would meet a game developer, I'd be like, hey, how does a, you know, this thing,

let me ask you a quick question, how do you do this or how does this thing work? And they would tell me like, oh, okay, cool, cool. Then I'd like go back to work and like try to implement the things I was learning little by little on our like network of game development cost. Because that's what you talked about. Like having to keep frame all that stuff

in the football games. You can't do that. The stuff we were doing, you couldn't do in retail copies of the game. We were getting development bills and running them on development hardware. And it was just like a nightmare to keep all that stuff straight. And the tools were never the tools you would think.

They weren't the tools you would build to do the job. They were like, well, this is what we have. Make it work. And you'd kind of figured out. Because they weren't conceiving of the need of those tools back there. They were just starting to, you know. I think Forge probably changed a lot of that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. In Halo. And it definitely took it to where also it put it in the hands of the player. Like it made it in a much more accessible way. It was some of those games. It was like, oh, yeah, you can't put a new keyframe behind an old keyframe if you do that the game will crash.

So it's like if you want to put a new keyframe back there in the timeline, you need to delete every keyframe back to that point, put a new one and then redo all of your new ones. I didn't until that moment. Oh, that was, wow. It was like a lot of weird work, because they intended it for video game developers. You know, people who like understood the system and you how it worked, it was not user friendly at all. So when I bought my house here,

I'm gonna switch gears for a second. When I bought my house here, it's like three miles to two miles down the road. I was still working at the call center, that's how I met Bernie, was I bought the house, and we had a housewarming party, and I'll never forget this because I bought a keg and it was on my little back porch. And for some reason, one of the dudes and all of my friends and Austin at this point worked at the call center. It was Gus and everybody else who we hung out with at the call center.

And one of the dudes at the call center took the keg and he just took the spigot and sprayed it on the sliding glass door, just like in a arc for a second. And I don't know why, and my first wife at the time saw it and swung that door open and went out and started screaming at him. And if you knew her, this was totally terrifying. Terrifying.

She was four foot 11, but she was like seven and a half feet tall when she was mad. I've never seen anything like seven and a half feet tall when she was mad. It was, I've never seen anything like it. And through him out. And then that night everybody became a scared of her and nobody, I never got anybody to my house again. Except for Gus. Yeah, pretty much.

Yeah. Like she, but she, she scared off any potential friends I had from that point on. Yeah, I don't remember spending a lot of time at that house. Like I know what you're talking about where you had the keg out there, but that house had like a back patio that I don't think I ever went on to. Yeah.

I think it was like right off the master. It was useless. Yeah, and it was like just like immediately you'd like butted up to the fence. It was a plot, it was like a little wedge of concrete that was three feet by two feet, and then it hit a wall, and it was just like concrete and then a fence. It was a plot, it was like a little wedge of concrete that was three feet by two feet, and then it hit a wall, and it was just like concrete and then offence.

It was absolutely useless. I put a pot out there once with a plant, and it died in Chile, and then I never went back out there. The craziest thing that ever happened to me, and I don't know if you were living with me at the time or if you even remember this, I was going home from work one day,

5.30 in the afternoon, and the street, that street was shut down by cops. And I couldn't get on that street. And so I stopped and I went and I talked to a cop and I'm like, what's going on? And he's like, oh, we're chases. We got a scapefelling, or like we're in pursuit of somebody. And we've got him pinned down with his neighborhood.

And I go, oh, wow, that's weird. Well, I live here. Can I just go home? And he's like, no, I can't let anybody in right now. And he goes, which one's your house? And I go, it's that one, the third one. And he goes, yeah, that's weird. Well, I live here. Can I just go home and he's like, no, it's, I can't let anybody in right now. And he goes, which one's your house? And I go, it's that one, the third one. And he goes, yeah, that's where he is. He had crawled under my deck.

And they had a police helicopter for a while. He had crawled under my deck. And I didn't see any of this. But apparently they had to crawl in after him and pull him out from under my deck. I don't remember that at all. And I couldn't go home for like three hours that day. And then eventually, they got him out from under my deck.

And then I was able to resume my life. Why wouldn't you just come out? What's this plan at that point? He's like, you're just gonna live under the deck. Yeah, it wasn't a big deck. And it was just a bunch of PVC pipes and spiders under there. I like, and a felon. And a felon, it's not a place to start a life.

For sure. So stop me if you don't want me to tell this story. You're talking about a felon reminds me about something. Okay. There was something Jeff used to do when I first met him that I thought was simultaneously evil and genius at the same time. If someone cut him off on traffic

or like someone wronged him in public, is this an okay story to tell? Is there a way we can bleep this? Okay. No, it's a great story. And allegedly. Okay. Allegedly I did this. You can't great story. And allegedly. Okay. Allegedly I did this.

You can't prove it. Allegedly. If someone wronged him or cut him off or whatever, Jeff would write down their license plate number. Or wait a month. And then he'd wait and then he'd go to like a pay phone. But pay phones are still around back then. And he'd call the police.

And he'd be like, hey, listen I'm a parent. I was out of the playground. I saw this car. It looks suspicious. I don't know Maybe they had a camera. They were taking photos of the kids. They just kept driving my real slow I went to a pro-chim and they sped off and I got their life's plate number I don't know if there's anything you can do. I just want you to have it just in case it comes up again in the future and I thought like that is some diabolical stuff and it's so fucking smart Is that something we can tell I don't know if that's something we can I was it it was a different time It was a different world and I don't think anybody should do that. I don't think it's funny now

I don't think it's right. I don't condone it. I was I was a dumb kid from a dumb place It took me a long time to evolve we're just stupid dirt people. Yeah, I'm a I'm a dumb kid from a dumb place. It took me a long time to evolve. We're just stupid dirt people. Yeah, I'm a dirt group. I grew up in Bumfuck, Alabama. I was born in a trailer. Like I spent the first two years of my life in the middle of nowhere, Bumfuck, Alabama,

in a trailer, eating potatoes, because that was all my mom could afford. Like we only ate potatoes. Like, it was, I didn't, I wasn't supposed to be here. I'm not supposed to be here, I know. And it's only my extreme luck that I am. And I don't recommend anybody do anything I did. We, I think we give that caveat a lot.

Like, we can look back on it, just like stealing the bottles, not stealing, taking the bottles of kiyanti. We are really appropriating. Yeah, it's like things that were obviously Wrong and it shouldn't have been done, but that it's like you're a different person. It's a different mindset I by the way, can I just point out to but we we told that story about stealing the appropriating the bottles of kiyanti I Did apologize to the guy later and he had no idea what I was talking. No, of course not He was like what? Oh, no, yeah, it's the third year of the man,

take him whatever. I don't drink. He didn't drink anyway. Yeah, totally fine. They were just ornamental. And he was also our friend. And they tasted like shit. Of course.

It took forever to get through those moments. We did, but yeah. Oh, so something came up in the news here in Austin recently that I think is relevant to this podcast. There's that McDonald's over on like Barton Springs in Lamar, that's closing. Yeah, I saw it as offence stuff, the one by Peter Pan. Yeah, and I think maybe in the entire time

I've lived in Austin, I went maybe twice to that McDonald's. However, that being said, a couple episodes ago, we talked about how I would go to Barton Springs like on Tuesday or Wednesday in the morning and I just hang out there. And one of those days I remember, like I left Barton Springs and for some reason I stopped at that McDonald's and I went in to get a big Mac or whatever. And I placed my order and I was waiting for my order and my cell phone rang.

This is when cell phones were brand new, like my big old Qualcomm prime co-phone rang. And it was Jeff who was calling me. And I was like, hey, what's up. And he's like, hey, we just back when we were doing ugly internet. Okay. And Jeff was like, hey, we got contacted by this ad network and they wanna run ads on our website. And we can finally make money on the internet.

And I was like, holy crap, that's a really big deal. Yeah. And we were both really excited about it. And every time I drive by them, I think about how, that's the first moment where I talked to someone where it's like, hey, you can make money on the internet. It was the blah, blah network. They were like purveyors of all the e-insights back in,

which was, I think I would sit for everything, nothing, it was like before vlogs. And we got one check from them for $16. I don't know if you remember that. And then right after that, they went under or something. But I am proud to say I would be hard pressed to locate it today, but I still have the check. I never cashed it because it was $16.

Yeah, we were like, when we do get a pizza? I mean, it was more like, this is our dollar we put up in our bar or first dollar made. And I know the bag, I just don't know where the bag is, but I still have to this day that check from, I don't know, 2001? Maybe 2000, 2001, yeah. The first $16 we ever made.

And now that McDonald's getting torn down, probably to have condos built there. Definitely, definitely condos are apartments right there. Next to the Peter Pan in the loudest train that goes through Austin, that like that train is so loud and so slow and so long. And they built so many condos right? Because they trained track racing.

They built so many condos. I live downtown for in a condo for two years, like a fifth and bowie. Well, in a place called the bowie. And I faced that train where it makes the turn, and the turn right there around C home, is where the squeal happens. Yeah.

And it would wake me up about four in the morning. And I'd be like, I was on like the 30-something floor, and you would hear like, Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr What, what, what, fuck, it's the train, back to sleep. It was brutal. I don't know how anybody lives downtown sleeps on that audio texture. That's pretty good. That's some good, fully working out going on there. We're kind of getting on to the, it's like about 50 minutes. So we should start wrapping up soon.

But I guess we got to find other coffee shops down here because I feel like this is a glut of stories. Oh, sure. I'm sure we have more. You're old wacky place where we would listen to the drug dealer and make drug calls. Oh, it's like, you're on the co-places right here. Like, it is all, we gotta find a coffee shop down here,

though, like another place to go to. Maybe it's simply self-aul-tour. I feel like we have a lot of stories at a old-tour. Oh, it's pretty good. No, I'm just saying there's other stories that I'm telling. I'm sure there's coffee shops. Yeah, we gotta find a thing good.

Cause it feels like this place feels ripe for, like, especially talking about old call center stuff and like beginnings of rooster team that's crazy we could do easily an hour or 10 just on stories from crazy customers from the call center yeah yeah water bed the first one I got John P and the Furby lady and all that stuff. The guy who fired his secretary on the phone and made me listen to it. Can you just tell one crazy story? Is there one that just comes to mind

that's like a quick one that's in the audience? There was real fast. There was this one woman in Oklahoma whose internet did not work. And this is a one time who's internet did not work and This is a one-time call she was not a recurring character But she called and she was complaining that her internet was down as she told the rep My family got to the Kennedys don't think we can't get to you. Yeah. Yeah, she was saying remember that whoa Yeah

There's like real Psychotic stuff. Oh my god There was another customer we had who would tell us they were gonna send the black helicopters after us and we wouldn't know until it was too late. Yep. Yeah. And they're like, but you keep looking up because they're coming.

Yeah, we had a lot of. A lot of drugs and mental illness. Uh, uh, wow. That's really something. Yeah. Um, let's rate the coffee at Buzz Mill. What do you think? Uh, uh, six. Yeah, the same way. It's fine. Yeah, that's the same. It like nothing rate the coffee at Buzz Mill. What do you think? Uh, six.

Yeah, I feel the same way. It's fun. Yeah, that's the same. Like, nothing against the coffee. It's just like whatever they actually do. If you're ever looking for like a weird specialty coffee thing, they have great like mixed coffee drink things here. They're really good.

Oh, no, you tell me. Well, yeah, I'm going to make you get the same thing every sp- If I didn't get one, you're not getting one. I don't even have to rate this. Uh, they have great like mixed drink stuff here and they also, the other thing was the flavored alcohol. Yeah, they have a bunch of that stuff. A wall of flavored whiskey. Yeah.

If you want to get like pican-few-stew-er-bacon-lisky, whatever. Yeah, they have a bunch of that stuff. They also have a couple of different food trailers and uh... Yeah, and you get breakfast fried rice right here. Yeah, what the fuck? Breakfast fried rice. 12 boxes of food. 12.

Yeah, I mean, once again, my biggest gripe with this place is that they put it here 10 years after I left. Right. And also, I don't drink anymore. And I feel like this is way more of a bar than a coffee shop. Definitely. I've been here a couple of times,

and I've only ever gotten coffee. But I went to another location that they had and got whiskey. And it was like, well, they did. It was like on like Caesar Travas or like seven, there's something and then they closed it and it's like, okay, well, whoops. It's too close to each other. It's what I'm saying. Uh, so whatever. It, I think it's, I think it's a fine spot.

I think if you're in the area, it's a fine spot to go to, but unless you're, what, unless you like live here, you go to the dairy queen. We're gasoline to throw up. It's, it's a huge improvement. This photos of it. Another quick story we were telling. This kid we used to work with, name Andrew. He was a, I don't know if I tell this story about our friend who was a professional soccer player in Germany

who got his back broken. He tried to stop at a Tejano bar one day after work to get a drink. And there's like a walk away. Yeah, right down the road over here. And the guy wouldn't let him in. The guy at the door wouldn't let him in. It's like six o'clock on a Thursday.

He's like, I'm 21. He showed him his ID and he's like, yeah, it's not for you. And he's like, what do you mean? He's like, you can't come in. Yeah, it's like, I just want to buy one beer and he's like, this is not for you. You need to leave. And like, wouldn't let him in. And so it's an improvement from that. Improvement, that's a strong word.

It's different than that. It's definitely different. You guys were talking about how they would set up a volleyball court. And there would just be guys shirtless and blue jeans and cowboy boots playing volleyball on every Saturday and Sunday all day long. It's on the concrete on the concrete. It's also a really sloped parking lot. Yes, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's dangerous. Yep. Yeah. Um, okay. So any guesses on the name? Oh, I wrote one down. Oh, okay, cool. Well, let me see how I'm fighting with this. People are Getting a little upset. I saw on Rich's cheese.

A guy told a guy message means, and he said, I bet my life that this is the name of the podcast. And it was like, and he was not. And he was wrong. Yeah, so, the really sad story. And so I had really sad note in it. He messaged me, he didn't message Anma, he didn't tweet it Anma. He DM'd me.

And so I said, all right, if you're wrong, I have to block you. And he went, no wait, and then I blocked. You go block. Yeah, Eric started texting me, he guesses like, hey, listen, if you're wrong, I have to block you and he went no wait and then I block you go blocked Yeah, Eric started texting me guesses like hey listen if we're gonna be doing this We're gonna bust out the microphone to can't just I'm gonna be with guests here. Okay, here we go. All right. My guess is I came of this embed Austin's no longer monetarily accessible. Is that right? That's true, but that's not it In bed, I like where you're going with this. I give you the thinking gift That's true, but that's not it. In beta, I like where you're going with this.

I give you the thinking gift. This is from, guess from Jorge, but I'm gonna take it, make it my own. Austin, me and more. Oh, that's good. No, no, no, that's good. I think it has, it has, I like that. I don't know if it's right, but it's a great mix

of not having a and then n and then n and then n and then also mixing up languages which again, can't really, you know, roll it out. Right, right, right, right right so that's gonna be my guess this week. That's a great one. No, that's our good guesses but no a lot of people getting close online but really yeah, but not not quite man not quite there man All right, it's funny. I feel like the guesses Come in cycles. I feel like people see stuff and then start stealing it. Yes Yeah, like we get a lot of the same guesses over and over. And there's like cycles that it goes through. How about Aruba not my Jamaica?

No. But now I've got Kokomo stuck in my head. That's exactly what I'm like, oh that's good. That's from Marcus on Mark, I guess just Mark on Twitter. How's it going? Kokomo's not a real place. Never knew that when I was a kid. Yeah, really?

I was assumed it was a vacation spot. Me too. And they invented it for the song. Someone should make a place called Co-Como and then license that song. That's a great idea. Let's do it. We should make a place called Co-Como.

There was a club called Co-Como in Mexico across the border from where I grew up. Was it really? Spell the thing about it? I forgot about it. Yeah. I didn't thought about that place in New York. I used to love when you and your mom and I I or sometimes your mom and I and your sister would always

Go across the border for the day and shop and then we go eat at that was it was a message? Come with mother there does yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's where the nachos were invented. That's right. Oh, that's right Okay, cool. It's close now. You can't go there anymore Well, thanks for listening to another episode of Anima. If you want to follow us at Anima podcast on Twitter and on Instagram, you see pictures of not having stickers. I didn't have a sticker on my cross. It's stick or ingest. And this wasn't even me and Jeff. No.

This is just like the way it happened. I told you this pervasive racism. It is, dude. It is. And preferential sticker treatment. I'm glad they didn't let Andrew into that bar. Well thanks for listening any hot takes final words anything for the people in home. Don't do what we did when we were young. Yeah man seriously allegedly allegedly. Most of these stories are made up. I'll say that. It's all fiction. It's all fiction. It's all fiction. Thanks, guys.

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