ANMA - Letting Go of Things

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We're home sick again but it's mostly a precaution because we're fine, actually. Gus and Geoff talk about Media expectations, COPS, Stepping away from RTP, Achievement Hunter, The process of moving on, First RTP memory, Drunk Tank, and Where to avoid in Austin. Are you coming to RTX? Okay see you there July 7-9 and you get tickets for your friend to come with you at www.RTXaustin.com Sponsored by Better Help http://betterhelp.com/anma and Fum http://tryfum.com/ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So this is episode 44 of Andma Again, we're like last time we're at home last time. We talked about Gus won covid zero We talked about We talked about Billy West. We talked about getting star struck talked about scene anters laser beam and mega 64 talked about old convention memories stinky packs and talked about old convention memories, stinky packs, and a few other things, but now we're here. This is episode 44, a new episode for a new day. A new episode.

Good morning, Eric. Good morning, Gus. Good morning. We would be remiss if we didn't ask how your COVID is doing. It's fine. I've been fine. What we recorded our previous episode, the day I tested positive. And I felt a little crummy that day and a little crummy the next day. And that was it. Like I had a little bit of body aches and a headache,

and a very mild fever. So that was. And then like by two days later, it was all gone. I've been 100% for a week and a very mild fever. So that was, and then like by two days later, it was all gone. I've been 100% for a week and a half now, and I'm still testing positive, and it's driving me bonkers. I didn't wanna tell you that part. I didn't wanna relive that part and give you any bad vibes, but the first time I had COVID,

I tested positive for 13 straight days, and I only had it for like three. And it was just like, every day I got up and I tested positive. And then I thought about killing myself. It was just, it felt like it was never going to end. Yeah, it's like, I mean, and you know, the new CDC guidelines that they have out is like, if you're asymptomatic and you don't have a fever and you isolate for five days, you can go back out and like mask for 10 days and then after that you're fine, even if you're testing positive,

but I don't wanna be, like I don't wanna go to work and get someone sick, you know? Like sit in a closed room with someone unmasked. It's like, so it's like, I'd rather just play it safe here. You are in all the best ways, Ned Flanders. Like you follow the rules. Ned Flanders lives by the rules.

He lives by the rules of the Bible. And even when the Bible contradicts, it's other rules, he just avoids both things. He's very rule oriented, and I mean, this is a huge compliment, but it's one of the things I love about you. You're responsible, and you follow the rules. Well, the rules say,

those are ambiguous. Those are ambiguous. You're too responsible for that. You're following the initial rules you were given, which was to stay away from people while you're positive. Yeah. Um, but I mean, we'll see. I think whatever. Like I just, I just don't want to be responsible. I don't want to, I don't want to Jeff it. Uh, yeah. I don't know what that means. Uh, I think,. But I think the listeners can use context to maybe figure that one out. So yeah, so normally you asked me what I got up to,

what I did in Austin this weekend. So the answer is a whole lot of nothing. I've been watching a lot of TV, a lot of streaming stuff. Oh man, I started this new show on Apple Plus called High Desert. Have you seen that? No. It's like Patricia Arquette is this kind of like a recovering drug addict out in Vegas who has just a myriad of addictions and she decides to become a private investigator

to kind of rehabilitate her career and her ex-husband is, or her husband's Matt Dillon. And it's a, what is his name? Brad Garrett is like the pride investigator that she's like mentoring under. It's really funny. It's really well written. Throwing that out there. You know, I saw people recently complaining that, well, before I get to that, Apple TV has a lot of shows and stuff that comes out. That ness sometimes I just miss. Like I haven't heard of that show. I'm sure it's probably been advertised to me and I just haven't, it just hasn't clicked with me or whatever.

But I've seen some people complain that now with the rise and so many streaming platforms, and I think the article I read was talked about Apple TV specifically, that you get a lot of not great movies being released or like very mid-tier movies that come out on the streaming platforms. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And then like, you know, in the comments, of course, was a very, for once, I thought there was a very smart reply in the comments that said, these have always existed.

They just used to be called Made for TV movies. Yeah. And I was about to say, like, isn't that what 3am on the Cinemaxes 4? That's a direct-to-video. Yeah, so it's like, there's always been that market. It's like, we're gonna make what we know it's not gonna be the best movie ever,

but we're gonna make something, we know we'll try to make something entertaining, is it gonna make $200 million at the box office? No, but it'll be there. Someone will watch it, people will like it. I think it's just that market has always been there. It's just wasn't historically marketed towards anyone, you know? I think a big thing is that people are very media critical and media savvy now compared

to 1991. And when you had crazy stuff in 87, that was just direct to video, you were like, that's fine. I rented the movie, but now people are like, is this worth my 112 minutes? Yeah, well, I think also the algorithm plays into that. People are used to being, you know, fed content very specifically that appeals to their interests. So when something falls, maybe slightly outside of that purview, it's like, oh, this is garbage

because it's not Taylor served exactly for me. I think we're also learning to have higher expectations as we're fed more and more content and honestly better content. So I think our floor raises with television as every year goes on. And then also we're so, we're so fucking lucky to have such a glut of entertainment that we have such high demands that we're constantly, like I know channel surfing was a thing

back in appointment viewing, back in linear TV, but like the way we channel surf now, it's insane. It's I was thinking about that's the reason I found high desert there the night because I was just going through like every streaming service I had going, give me something new, this boring, I don't like him, I don't like her, I want something new, that's not reason I found high desert there the night because I was just going through like every streaming service I had going give me something new this boring. I don't like him. I don't like her.

I want something new. That's not funny. You know, and you just go through like service after service after service and just like almost angrily into like, like, what am I paying $7 for? Where's my, you know, and then I found high desert. It was good. I actually canceled a streaming service over the weekend.

I was like, this is one I don't use very much. And it's like, it's, I'm not drawn to much of the content here. Like I've watched a few things on it. It's like, but it typically, it doesn't have stuff that I want. I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna cut the cord on this one. Which one was it? It was Paramount Plus.

Wow. That being said, I just watched the Junction of Dragons movie on there. But that's what maybe you kind of think about it. Uh, it was paramount plus. Hmm. Wow. But that being said, I just watched the judges and the dragons movie on there, but that's what maybe you kind of think about it. It's like, Oh, what was the last thing I watched out here? It's like, hmm. And then I was like, I guess it's got divas in but head, which I have been watching, but that eventually comes out on Comedy Central. I don't want to pay a monthly fee for be with some butt head.

You know, that's, you know, maybe I should go cancel paramount plus because I had it for they had international survivors. and buddy. You know, that's, you know, maybe I should go cancel Paramount Plus because I had it for or they had international survivors, they had like South Africa survivor and Australian survivor and stuff and they've pulled all that. And so now I don't know the access to it. What really, what am I paying for? I watch, I watch Survivor every week, but I watch it on Hulu when it's new. And the other thing I would use Paramount Plus for is I would watch old episodes of air

disasters on it. But I realized recently that I can now log in to the Smithsonian channel and watch all the seasons there. Paramount Plus didn't have all the scenes, Smithsonian Child's website does. I was like, oh, they're all over here and I don't have to pay more for that. It's like other SNL Brake. I recently found my limit this weekend, actually, on what I won won't pay for which is Emily and I for the last I don't know 10 days or so I went in the other podcast were really into this watching this

bar on in Key West called Slobby Joe's right and What's kind of replaced that lately is we fell into a rabbit hole of cops and just watching old episodes of cops and I've been watching Thou like every episode I can get on YouTube and on Hulu and the only place you can get the full library of cops is on Fox Nation and I'm just not doing it. God, how many episodes is that? That's gotta be like thousand. Yeah, there's like 30, I think 30 season 33 or 34 is on right now. And I just want to say, so like I complete the thing. It's not on. but you put it on and you watch like season seven of cops when it's like 1994 and you're just like, there's something comforting about all like the

that show. I don't know what it is. It's like nobody's getting shot. Stuff gets resolved, you know, people are like, meth dealers are funny in it. It's like, it's very, it's, it's very entertaining. It's a very different world. It really does feel like a different world, old cops. Oh, man, I have not watched it showing years. I can't think of the last time I thought about cops. Remember when that song charted like it was popular and you would hear it, what a fucking weird world.

Yeah, dude, we were reading about the dude that started cops. He's dead now. He died, that's not funny that he died. I don't know why I left, but he died in Mexico doing off-road racing. So like totally, like preventable death. He didn't have to die. He just was rich enough to be into dangerous shit, I guess.

Dude was worth $250 million. Wow. I don't know how to get any of it. But yeah, we didn't get any of it. $250, that's fucking insane. Hey, this is not, we're just talking about current TV. This feels a lot less like Anma and a lot more like the RT podcast.

That's what I got. But it's something that you do wanna talk about. Yeah, so this episode is coming out next week. Yeah, so like I'll have already set this on RTPM. So I was supposed to be doing RTP tonight, but because of my diagnosis, I'm not able to do that. So I'm going to have to tape a message to play at the end of that episode. If you're listening to this podcast and you watch RTP, you probably already saw it.

But I'm going to have made the announcement that I'm not going to be doing RTP anymore. The last episode would be on is June 5th. And I've been thinking a lot about it and I haven't made the video yet, so I don't know exactly what I'm going to say in it, but I've been thinking a lot about what I'm going to say in the video and a lot about the decision to step away from it. And it's not like, I'm trying to wind down or do less. I'm trying to refocus my energy. And I think that's really what I need to focus on when I make that video.

It's like, I already have, you know, with Black Box Downs also kind of spinning down. We have our final episodes coming out soon. Like I have another podcast that I'm already going to be doing that's that's role that's spinning up to take the place of Black Box Down for me for my workload. And I'm trying to work on another podcast to get it approved to kind of take the time that RTP took. So it's like, I'm not stopping working. I'm just trying to refocus my energy because I've been doing RTP and I've been on it for 15 years. And last night I was lying in bed and saying it's like, that's a third of my life. Like I'm 45, like for 15 years for a third of my life, I've been producing

that show. And it's like, I felt like it was, and I've been feeling this for a while. I've been wanting to step away from it and let someone else take it over and let someone else put their own spin on it. But it's been a matter of finding the right people, finding the right time. And I think we're finally there. The pandemic and work from home through a branch in timelines and everything

and kind of shuffled how all that was gonna go. But I think we're finally in a place where like the podcast isn't going to go away. There's going to be new people or that new people, different people hosting it. And it's going to be like just some updates made to the format and the way it goes. And you know, I'll let them, when they're ready, I'll let them talk about it. They probably talked about it by now by the time this comes out. But I think it's good to have fresh blood and to step away from something. And another thing I thought about last night

when I was thinking about this 15 years and about how it's a third in my life, I started thinking about, and I haven't talked to you about this yet, about how you also kind of went through something similar when you started achievement hunter and then you've kind of stepped back to focus on other projects.

So I was curious like what your experience with doing something like that was? I can answer that in great detail. But first off, let me ask you said June 5th is the last episode that you'll be leading the podcast. Right. What episode number is that? Oh, that's a good, I don't even know, dude. Let me look. Okay, it'll be like 75 or so. Something like that. be like 75 or so. Something like that. That's crazy. It's a lot. It's a fucking lot of episodes. I say this with 100% sincerity. Congratulations. You have just done something 99% of people won't get to do. You created a production that you loved and that you were and are clearly still passionate about. And then you made it successful for 700 episodes.

That's 754, I just love it. 754, that is such a rarity and you won't get the credit you deserve for it. Nobody in the company has run a production, a single production as long as you have run that one. I didn't run all of achievement hunter for that long. And- How long does you run it for?

Ah, 11 years, 12 years. That's a fucking long time dude. It's a long time man. It is a long time and we can talk about that but I really, I want you to understand like, I want the audience to understand what a monumental thing that is and what a big fucking deal it is and

how impressive it is and how how much I personally appreciate you sturdying that production. So such a big part of our company. It's the it's the voice of our company. It's how we communicate with the audience. It's how we have, it's how we begin to give and take conversation with them. And you've been the spearhead of that for a decade and a half. And that's a tremendous run. And I really thank you, Gus, for doing that. Yeah, yeah. Of course, I like to tell people, like to put it in perspective that when we

started the first couple of episodes, George Bush was still president. Like it was still during the Bush presidency, like Obama had not yet been inaugurated as president like that's how long ago it was when you When you mentioned that you know briefly when we were just when we're having our pleasantries before the episode You mentioned you want to talk about your run on the RTP I got to thinking about some stuff we could talk about which maybe we can touch on her later which just like Like the process of starting the podcast, all the ones we recorded that we didn't release, like what that whole thing was like.

But I want to answer your question. It's really, it's a mind-fuck is what it is to step away from something like this because I also think it's, and I don't want to give myself any credit here. I'm trying to, but I think it's a really brave thing to do. I think that if you genuinely really love something, love an entity the way you love the Ruchertiath podcast or the way I love to achieve my hunter, you have to recognize when it know when it needs to carry. If you want it to carry on past you, right? You need to recognize that that has to happen. And no, especially if it's successful,

you're gonna have to be the one to figure out when that appropriate time is. And then you're gonna have to be brave enough to do it. It's a very scary thing to walk away from something that is a proven hit that is easy. You've got to, easy because of your 10,000 hours in it. It's easy.

It's familiarity. Yeah. You've got it down to a science. You can do that show, you can prep for that show in the back of your head. And to walk away from that into the unknown into the next thing is in itself, I think, a really scary and difficult thing to do.

And I definitely, I used to always say with achievement hunter, I could tell my time was ending. And I used to always say with achievement hunter, I could tell my time was ending and I used to always say, I don't want to be the 40 year old guy at a party doing a keg stand around 25 year olds. You know, you don't want to, you don't want to be at the party too late. And I think I was a achievement hunter for a couple of years. I don't think you are here at all. But it's, it really is hard to, to, to find that to pinpoint like when it's time to step back. Like when I left the Chief of Mhunter, it was incredibly difficult.

It was a family that I created within our family that we created, Gus. And I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about that. Ruchitith is our family. And then Chief of Mhunter was a little other family that I had inside the bigger family with like different layers of love and care and it's like the I was dying inside making it at that point, you know, I had been so I had done I had done my 10,000 hours times 10 and I had I had figured out every different way I could to recreate the kind of the magic for me and to keep it going

and to find ways to challenge myself to make it interesting. And like at some point, you just can't trick yourself anymore and you'd realize that like, you're holding, if anything, you're holding them back. They're younger, they have more energy, they have different opinions, there are a different generation,

the world is moving in their direction. And the best thing you can do is to take a step back and say, here's the keys, and just hope that you're doing it at the right time. When I left Achievement 128, 2019, it was financially in the best position that it had ever been in. Things were going very, very well.

Nobody could have predicted the pandemic happened, unfortunately. Well, except for all the doctors and scientists who predicted it. Yeah. Yeah. happened, unfortunately. Well, except for all the doctors and scientists who predicted it. You know, but like, I left it in the best place I could with the most talented, engaged, creative, wonderful people that I could. And then you just have to begin the really, really difficult part. And I don't know how difficult this would be for you, is then learning not to care when they do things differently

than you would have done them. Learning to be okay with the fact that they're going to go in a different direction that you were gonna go in, that they're gonna disagree with some of the things that you did and the ways that you did them, and they're gonna modify them, and they're gonna change them, and the show is gonna change, and as it changes, and as it goes on every month, it looks less and less like you,

and it feels less and less like you, and it feels less and less like you. And that's heartbreaking. I mean, that's, it can be really hard to do. But it's also kind of beautiful. And there's a lot that goes into just the acceptance of being okay with that. You know, I think it's, it forces a lot of maturity into you. And it'll be interesting to see how you experience that journey because it was really hard for me.

Yeah, I think that, I mean, you know me a long time. I think that my approach to the lot of things is like, in the end, nothing's sacred. You know, burn it all down, tear it all down, put your own spin on it. So it's like, it's hard to let go to let that happen, but I think once I let go, I'm going to be, I'll be totally fine with it. It's like, hey go to let that happen, but I think once I let go I'm gonna be I'll be totally fine with it It's like hey, it's your thing. You know if you want to do that More power to you like I have I have interested you to do this thing and I'm not asking you to continue anything like if you want to fucking light it on fire

Like that's on you now at that point like I'm I've got 754 That's on you now at that point. Like I'm, I've got 754 episodes in the pocket. I'm not saying I know how to do it. I'm not saying that my way's the best way. That's just the way it was done for a long time. And fuck it. Throw it all in the trash if you are. And but that being said, I'm not trying to say like, I don't have confidence in what's coming.

Like I have the utmost confidence. I've been talking with, you know, the people who are going to be doing it. And I think it's great. I think it's fantastic. I'm super enthusiastic about it. I think, you know, I'm very much a fan of the people who are going to be stepping up for it.

And it's like, I'm super excited to see what happens with it. Well, let me say I I'm also familiar with the changes that are coming. And I think you've done a tremendous job of helping create the next generation of what the RT podcast will be. And I think you're leaving in as good a hands as you possibly could, which is the goal, right?

Yeah, that was something I talked about years ago on RTP, like a long time ago, was eventually stepping away and who I would entrust to take it over. And I think, you know, years ago, what I said at the time was like the only, this is, we were, this is, again, years ago, I said, at the time, the only person I would trust to take it over was Brandon Farmaheany, because he was, he was, I don't know, he and I shared a lot of sensibilities. Yeah. And I think that if, you know, I had done that at the time, I think maybe he and I are too similar.

You know, maybe even though that's what I thought at the time, maybe that wouldn't have been the best move. I think maybe going at something like a totally different direction is better. But I mean, who's to say, who's to know? That's not the here and are there. I feel like I agree with everything you're saying. And I think that you're stating it very well. And I think that the thing I'm worried about is that people

are going to hear this and be like, well, he's just giving a very diplomatic answer. But I do think that like, I think everything you guys are laying out and everything you're saying is like very genuine. Like, I don't think any of this is like the canned. Well, this is the company. Like, this feels like a thing that's been kind of coming down the road and everything. And the way you're laying it out here makes a lot of sense. And I do hope that people don't just pull quote this and be like, well, do you see said this here?

And it's like, this is part of a bigger, people that have never created a thing don't understand. And they need to understand. And I hope everybody gets the opportunity to understand that when you create something, and I'm not talking, that you truly love, like, Ruestertieth has been almost my entire adult life, and it's been a little bit, and more of Gus' adult life,

some two years older than him, right? So, like, it has been the major defining entity in our lives for almost, fuck, almost half of my life. Yeah. It means more to us than we could ever possibly express and to love something that much. The ultimate thing you want from it is for it to continue. I want it to live. I want Rooster Teeth to live. I'm going to die. We used to make the old Achievement Hunter joke was that Jeff's almost 50. I am almost 50. I turn 48, I turn 48 in a month, you know?

And like my time is nearing and end. I'm definitely on the back nine. I'm definitely closer to the end of my career than the beginning. And I want nothing more than for Rupertieth and the wonderful people who have made Rupertirtieth what it is to get to continue and for that nerdy amorphous little blob of entertainment just to continue to grow and amorphousize

and to turn into whatever it's gonna be next so that it can exist so that in 10 or 20 years it can turn into something else. But to really love something that much and to want it to continue, you have to recognize that it can't continue with you at some point. And you have to,

and it's like the most selfish thing in the world would be to try to stop that process. So it's not, like for people to say that, I don't know, I understand what you're saying, Eric about people misreading it, but like I think for Gus to turn over the RT podcast to the group that he's done after 754 episodes is the ultimate expression

of love and care and responsibility and stewardship and effort. And I hope people understand that. Yep, totally agree, totally. You know, you were talking about being 48 and being close to 50. And, you know, I turned 45 a couple of months ago. And it's been, I don't know, it's not like it's a milestone age or anything, but it's making me put a lot of things into perspective.

You know, this is the year that Rucht celebrated its 20th anniversary, right? So it's like, if you draw the line out and, you know, let's say I retire when I'm 65. That's 20 years from now. Like we've done this for 20 years. If Rucht were to end right now and I had to go find another job I would not work and I worked at one job for the rest of my life. I would not work there as long as we've done this. Yeah, like this this will be the defining part of my life, the most defining part of my life, the work that we've done here over the last 20 years. And God, the work on this podcast

or on the Rooster Podcast over the last 15 years, it's just like, it is, time has moved, right? You can't buy more time, you can't add more time at the end. It's like, you look at the time that's behind you and like, that's what it is. The line has been drawn in the center. It's, that is going to define me. I have a limited window in front of me.

I guess what I'm trying to get at in a not so morbid way. No, I totally agree. I think of it in terms of rock and roll, right? Like, you may work at Rooster Teeth for the rest of your life. You may have another 20 years of Rooster Teeth in you. We both may. Who knows what that'll look like?

If only we should be so lucky that Rooster Teeth is around in 20 years. Or you may leave, you know, and the next who knows at some point when it makes sense to go on to your next adventure. And you may have another hit. You may have another successful career or business after this that could look like it

or could be totally different. And like, much in the way, in the same way that like Dave Grohl was in Nirvana, and then Dave Grohl got to go on and be in Food Fighters too. But, but Ruchertith was never in Nirvana. The point I'm trying to make here is that we're the remones.

We were gonna be around until each member dies. I think like like there, you know, I think the problem with the remones is the remones, even though they all hated each other for the last 20 years. Is that they love the remones? I know, right? They hated each other, but they love the remones, right? We love Rooster Teeth. And I always think about that when I'm thinking about us in terms of like rock and roll.

I always think like that where we're meant to play together until we die. It feels like. And, yeah. Yeah. And, you know, you know, like kind of along those lines are speaking to that. It's that's kind of like the new projects that I'm working on. It's like I still want to make stuff and I still want to make stuff with Rooster Teeth and with the people that, you know, that we work with and that we see every day. And I'm still really excited about that. And like I still have things I want to do,

like boundaries I want to push, like I want to do things in new directions. Like, you know, who you heard me say, I've got one podcast coming up and then there's another one that I want to do. It's like, it may sound like it's run in the middle, but it's like, they're very different things. Like they're very new things like one of them is gonna involve

potentially a lot of writing like a lot of comedic writing and You know it's despite the fact that we do it for 20 years was still like trying to cope with new ways to tell stories and new stories to tell and I think that There's a There's a lot of gas still in the tank. Oh, I completely agree. I mean, I, you know, speaking personally, I think, and I, part of why I'm excited for you to do these two new podcasts.

First off, I got to see the kind of the creative rebirth in you when you started Black Box Down. I was very lucky to get to be a part of that at the beginning and get to see that show take form and it was really, it really breathed fresh life into you. And that face has changed my life. Like it really has. Like I've never felt better at what I do or funnier or more on top of it than I do making face. And all I had to do was get rid of all the video games and all the other nonsense to focus on the thing and I don't wanna do, which is just the conversation, right?

And so I just like, I'm excited because I know, I don't know if I know your second podcast. I know one of them, because we've been talking about, well, the one that I know of you and I've been talking about for, or you've been telling me about it for years, at this point, and I've always thought it was a or you've been telling me about it for years at this point. And I've always thought it was a phenomenal idea. It's maybe as old as Black Box Down in terms of ideas

or right around the time frame. Right around, yeah. And so I have no doubt, like also the amount of work that's gonna go into that podcaster about to do is what's a lot of it works. I'm very excited to see it. But I can't wait, hopefully I'll get to find out we can get coffee and you can tell me about the other idea.

Because I agree, I think that whatever you make next will be better than the last thing you made. That's how we do this, that's the point of this. And it's gonna be more representative of you in 2023. Like I don't give a, the other thing is people get so tired of the past, I don't give a shit about Gus in 2010. I care a lot about Gus in 2023. That's where we're living.

And that's who I know, you know? And I wanna see what you're interested in and what you're passionate about now. Yeah. Yeah. Hey everyone, wanna take a moment to remind you, RTX 2023 is happening this July 7th through 9th. RTX is our favorite time of the year.

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I've owned the strip tears I've probably said things I don't agree with anymore. I've probably said. Right. A lot of things. I've grown a lot of things. I said it was a third of my life. And sometimes even I go back and listen to old episodes or watch old episodes, I'm like, oh, what the fuck? What's wrong with you? You fucking idiot. Like, it happens all the time. So it'll be good to set that aside and not worry about that anymore. Which by the way, if I say this to everybody out there who loves to go back and find dumb shit, we said in the past and then call us out on it 15 years later. Record three or four hours of your thoughts every week for 700 weeks. And then go back and listen to week 35, you were fucking

stupid. Yeah. We're all stupid. You're all stupid. Everybody five years ago was dumb. 10 years ago, like barely human. That's just that's the way it works. Yeah. It's a, yeah, it's a lot. But yeah, that's like the big thing I've got going on.

I have to record that video to play on the podcast. Some point I'll probably be right after this. Mm-hmm. Yeah, so it's good that we're talking about it now because I can dry run the things that I'm going to say that will have come out before this. Yeah. Do you think, do you think you'll pop your shirt off in the video? Oh. Show people, show people the problem.

No, no, no, no, no, it's a, it's a, it's a shirt on kind of kind of day around here. Okay. Okay. Gotcha. Just just checking. Are you Looking forward to getting that time back. I know that you're putting it towards other creative efforts that are being Sort of put forward and, but like for 15 years, you had a set schedule on Monday's, whether it was 5 p.m. or 7 p.m. or whatever it was. Are you looking forward to just being like, whoa, I'm done. I'm gonna do it. Monday nights again.

Yeah, it'll be nice. I think the biggest relief or the biggest thing I'm looking forward to is not having to worry about fucking holidays anymore, about like pre tapes and it's like, oh, we can't do the show on this Monday. So we need to do two this week. We need to do three this week in order to get ahead and, you know, trying to schedule all of that. Like, there's a lot of pain points that come with doing a live production like that from a scheduling perspective. So it'll be nice to not have to worry about that. And like we look at my calendar sometimes, be like, I've got to do six episodes in the

next two weeks, like how the hell am I going to do that? So that, you know, that that'll be nice. It'll be good to not have such a long day on Monday's anymore. Cause it's not like I ever came in later on Monday. It's like, oh, Monday's just a long day. So it'll be good to reclaim that time. Oh, I think we should just well fast. We should, this is a sound bite.

People can clip just to clear up any confusion because I've already seen it a little bit after the black box down announcement. You're not leaving Rooster Teeth. Your job at Rooster Teeth is not changing in any way whatsoever. You're just doing two new shows. You're going to end your ending your two current shows and then making two new shows and that's the only change. You're still there in the exact same way.

I still have a desk that I look forward to going back to one day once I test negative. Must be nice. Uh, I'll still be there working with, you know, all the same people, but just making new stuff that I think people will enjoy. Yeah. And I think the only way that this stuff can happen, this is the only way that this stuff can happen. This is the only way that this stuff can happen, right? Like people have a hard time of letting stuff go

because this is part of their routine. This show that they listen to every week at this time, you know, it's part of their routine and that thing's changing. And hopefully they stick around and check it out and see the new version of it and everything, but I think that, man, it's hard for people to let stuff go. And I think you're doing it as like consciously as possible to let everyone know.

It's not like it's a sudden, you know, this is happening and it's happening over an amount of time and we've been working in the background on it. And that's, and that's okay. Like the Simpsons is on is still on TV season. What is it? 37. Conan O'Brien doesn't write The Simpsons anymore. And he hasn't since season three,

but the show's still good and it's still going on, you know, and- And if he still wrote The Simpsons, there never would have been a Conan O'Brien show. Right. He would never be doing what he's doing now. Like, if- We never do masturbating bear.

Think about it, no masturbating bear. Yeah. Like, that's the thing, you have equity, right? Like as a creator and what people sort of view your value as and what you're doing or whatever. And it's very much of what have you done for me lately, kind of business, clearly. But it is very exciting that like,

Jeff, you stepped away from age and there never would have been a f*** face. And f*** faces like, I mean, think about, It is very exciting that like Jeff you stepped away from age and there never would have been a face and face is like I mean think about there never what you never would have made face people who are listening to that every week need to like Understand if you are still doing what you are doing in 2012 You would not be doing what you're doing in 2023. It's really important. It's like I'm being very Like clear and like reiterating a lot because I think it's really, really, really, really important for people to understand like the point of something

like this. Yeah. And I, as you were talking about face, it made me think I would be remiss not to, I would be remiss if I just like put everything on my shoulders and said, oh, pat me on the back. Like I did this shit for 15 years. It wasn't me alone. There were tons of people involved, not only on the cast, we had regular people who were

there, a huge number of episodes, you know, Bernie for many years, Gavin, Barbara, and people who've come and gone throughout the company Jeff as well. And on top of that, like there's been a crew who like I bitch about having a work lay at or do six shows in two weeks. There's a crew who has to set up for that shit and who stays, you know, who has to set it all up when we're done, has to strike it all and put it away. And I think that they're like really the unsung people who, you know, who do so so much for us I would want to start naming names, but I'd be afraid that I would forget someone But it's like like you always you know, I'm always gonna see

Tyler Cody Mike, you know and Just other people and even then with the crew other people have come and worked for long stretches in the past who moved on and you know We that's just I'm thinking about the people I see every day right now. Cameron, I see a lot lately as well. And this is the people who like really make sure that give us the platform to make sure we're able to do the things that we love to do.

We were just talking on face recently about how it used to be a thing to make Nick Schwartz laugh in the control room, you know? You know, you can laugh and like, I forgot he worked on our TP, you know? Mm hmm. Yeah, I assume that you'll do some sort of a like poignant thing on your last episode where you'll talk about people or I'd put some kind of a bow on it like more more well

you don't have to nobody. Nobody. Not trying to make it. But so just say if you don't feel like you just it. Just it. Yeah. Uh, let's see. We have some ideas in store for the last episode. Hey, let me ask you a question. What is your first memory of Ristratheath podcast?

The first memory. Like the first time we talked about it, like what is the, what, what, what pinpoint the fucking, the genesis of it? It was at the Congress office, you know, when we were above the p2 pit. It was Bernie saying, you know what, we need to make a podcast and then just like busing out the mics and a mixer and like on a little table. I mean, let's go, let's record it right now. And then us recording it, hitting stop and be like, that was fucking terrible. Let's never do it. Oh no. No, Eric, no, no.

And then we had the conversation. We were like, well, we don't have to release this. You know, that was like, that was a piece of advice we would always give people. Like just because you've made it doesn't mean you have to share it with anybody. Right. And we definitely, we definitely took our own advice a lot in those early days. How many do you remember doing before we, I remember... I remember... What's it that many? I remember like, in my mind it was like four or five.

It may have been more, I don't know, but it was definitely quite a few. And then, so we recorded a bunch before we released one, and then we recorded a bunch more before we released a second one. Like, we still hadn't figured it out. Like, there's a long gap, the first like two or three episodes, there's like weird long gaps between them, because one, we didn we didn't have time, we didn't carve out the time for it, and two, when we did carve out the time, it didn't necessarily mean we would make something we'd want to release.

Yeah, wow. So it's very, very inconsistent. I think our first episode was December 08, our second one was January 09, the third might not have been until April or something like that. There was a long break. It was originally called the drunk tank, which was named after a segment on drunk gamers where what was that? What did we do on the drunk tank? Do you remember?

We would give advice or something. Yeah, I think it was like a question and answer. Question and answer. A segment, if I remember right, yeah. Yeah, like a little Q and A thing like we had asked Flexo And then we had the drunk tank and I think we would give advice to people that ask questions So we named after that and then how long was it the drunk tank? By the way, Ristie's selling fucking drunk gamers mugs The Ristie doesn't own drunk gamers. Where's how about money for that?

That's I designed that month. I made that fucking mug. I never agreed to that. I have my original drunk gamers mug from drunk gamers here. I'm on my desk and now it's they devalued it by making new ones. We only made 20 of those things. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Anyway, how many episodes did we do as the drunk tank? We did it from until we were in the Congress. We probably did like 120 or so as the Trump tank. And then we changed it to, like I remember in Oblinator when we changed it, I remember having arguments about it.

We changed it from the drunk tank to the Rooster Teeth podcast because... We want you to get advertisers. They told you can't, no one will advertise on a podcast called the drunk tank face would like to disagree with that statement. No kidding. But different different times in their defense. We should have learned that lesson from drunk gamers and nobody wanted to work with us

back then. When did we ever work smarter? Yeah, we know that that's never happened. Um, yeah, so then, uh, we, we, we like switched the name and then immediately the first episode with the new name, uh, we had a sponsor. I remember one of those early, we never released this. I probably never talked about this before. But we, one of the early ad reads, we were doing it down at Ralfal Bonato, we were in the conference room recording an episode.

I don't remember who was on it. I remember I was on it and Brandon was on it. And we were recording the audio episode and I was like, okay, let me do the ad read. And I do the ad read, it was an ad read for Audible. And I go through the whole Adread and I'm done. And then there's like a brief pause and then Brandon goes, you know,

an audio book is not the same, it's not as good as reading a real book. And I just immediately hit pause in the recorder. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Hot takes to the ad read. Yeah, the sponsor's great and all, but fuck them, right? I was like, oh my god. Hey, that got cut out from the final. Oh, yeah. Oh, you don't say.

That's a yeah. But yeah, it was it was it was it was interesting in those early days, trying to figure out how to put them in because at that time, the podcast wasn't live. We didn't start that until, you know, many years later. Down also at Ralph Albinado. Were we doing a live at Ralph Albinado? Yeah, remember we're in the annex?

That's where the studio was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All about that when I first started. Next to the next to the weed store, right? And that was like its own thing. That man, what a pain it was back then we really had annoyed what we were doing. But it was interesting because at the time,

like Twitch was still relatively new. And it seemed like, you know, live streaming was a big thing. So I wanted to try to figure out a way to do something live streaming but really not video games related. So that's kind of why we decided to pivot the podcast and move it to like a live recording and make it a benefit for sponsors at the time, you know, first members now. And that, you know, it was interesting, but it was always scary doing the show live.

And that knowing like if there would be, you know, a low-end conversation or if someone's going to show up and just like be out of it, I was like, I had so many stress nightmares about doing the podcast and having people show up and just like not be into it or be distracted. Like that was always my biggest stressor. And you know, we've been doing it live for many years. I don't know if that's necessarily, that's the only show we still do live, really. I mean, we have live streams, but I think that's very different animal than been doing a show live. We do those live sales events about every month now. I think those are going to be picking

up, but yeah, but other than that off topic, off topic. I'm sorry. That's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, you know, podcasting has changed. Livestreaming has changed. I don't think, you know, it's necessarily the best approach to a production in 2023. I was going to ask what like in those early, like, hey, we should do a podcast. We need to do a podcast. We're just going to record this thing and it's going to suck. And then we'll start, you know, eventually we'll get one good one to put that out and whatever. Was there talk of like, what's the premise of this thing? Like, was that a conversation or was it more of a thought of this is a thing that we should do? Let's find it in the show. Like, which way did that kind of go?

in the show? Like, which way did that kind of go? I think it was a way to, the initial thought was, it was a way to update the audience as to what was going on. Like a peak behind the curtain. Like, this is what we're working on. This is what we're doing. And it kind of went for them to talking about, like, then it kind of evolved. They're talking about stuff that was going on.

The stuff that we read online or stuff that we went through and our personal experiences. It's kind of had like a meandering path over the course of its life. But I don't remember ever having like a sit down and be like, this is what it's gonna be about, do you Jeff? I vaguely remember, yeah, I vaguely remember

some of those loose conversations, but I probably was ignoring them at the time and thinking people were overthinking it. Yeah. Everybody has to have an idea and a plan. Let's just do shit and see what happens. That's what I'm with you, 100%. That's all the conversation for face was,

was hey, we should just get this together and do it. And then we did it and that's all it needed to be. Yeah, and if it isn't good to be like, okay, let's not do that again. Long to that lesson. Like I think one of the most foundational moments in Rooster Teeth happened about three years before Rooster Teeth, when Gus and John Farrell

and I got a digital camera and decided we were gonna walk around downtown Austin and film stuff and it would be funny. And because funny stuff was always happening to us. We were always making each other laugh. We were always cutting up. We were wacky. We were like, our lives are interesting. There's that show Austin stories. That's always happening to us. We were always making each other laugh, we were always cutting up, we were wacky, we were like, our lives are interesting.

There's that show Austin's stories, that's got nothing on us. Like we're, we're Austin, we're funny. We'll just go out and we'll just videotape, and it'll be fucking hilarious. And then we'd spend about two hours looking at each other going, do something funny. And we realized, oh, there's something

not a work goes into this. And I think that that moment set Gus and I back a little bit on our career paths. But we got over that hump, which was the, oh, that effort is required. You know, we have to figure that has to be a point to this. I think when I think the like the great entertainers make it look at right. And that might that might be even part of their stick, right? Like the whole like stories about Dean Martin, like, oh, he was drunk, he didn't rehearse,

he just showed up and did it. It's like, yeah, I mean, that's the story. That's not true. It's not true. He was sober the whole time. Right, sober the whole time, you know, rehearsed everything, practiced everything, you know, had everything nailed down,

but just made it, it just came across as effortless. And that was part of like how it presented it. And that's really misleading. It's not until you start doing it, you realize like, oh, it's really not effortless. And that was part of like how how it presented it. And that's really misleading. It's not until you start doing it. You realize, like, Oh, it's really not effortless. Yeah, get to put the work in. Uh, well, that's, I mean, I'm really excited for what's coming next for our TP and and what's coming next for you. Cause I know what the other show is if we can get it made and I'm very, very excited. So, yeah, the pitch went well, yeah, I just pitched it last week. I think it went really well. I mean, I don't even know what that room would be like as you were pitching

this. And the fuck is going to say no to you? Well, we'll tell you the idea for this thing. And then we'll see if you have an easy time saying yes. It's a, it's a weird concept. Is this the new one? The one that I don't know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll, we'll see if you have an easy time saying yes. It's a weird concept. Is this the new one, the one that I don't know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we'll tell you as soon as we're off my care. But I'm really excited. I'm very excited for what you're gonna do next

and everything and if Jeff is any indication, you'll have skies of the limit for what you can do with now that your time is freed up and you don't have to put that effort into that thing, you can hand that off to other people who are going to get that new lifeblood into it and you're going to be able to do the thing your way. The new stuff. Yeah, and you don't have to try to figure out how to take a thing that you made 15 years ago and keep it current in the modern space. You can just make a thing right now that's current in the modern space that's who you are. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. We are right around the 50 minute mark, which is a little bit later, but I wasn't going to interrupt that conversation. That was great. I think people hopefully really listen to this and take a lot away from it. I think there's a great conversation for an episode that we had to do remotely. And I was worried that we weren't going to have anything to talk about.

Oh, man. I'm going to put an asterisk on the conversation too. If after I make the announcement tonight in the video plays, and then people have questions that I didn't answer here, talk about. Oh man. I'm gonna put an asterisk on the conversation too. If after I make the announcement tonight in the video plays and then people have questions that I didn't answer here, it's not because I'm ignoring them, it's because it hasn't happened yet. Yes, that's true. We are recording this on the 22nd in the morning

before any of the RTP stuff has happened. So sorry. Oh, and one thing, because there is one little dangling plot point from Anna out there. We actually did secure the rights to film the secret episode with the person we were talking about.

Yes. But we had to postpone it because of Gus' COVID. Yeah, that's the whole idea that we were gonna do that we talked about. It is gonna happen, so cool. I got it all, I got it all AOK'd. We just,

we just aren't gonna give them COVID. Yeah, we just don't wanna give people COVID. We don't want Gus to Jeff it.O.K.A. We just, uh, we aren't, we just aren't going to give them, uh, COVID. Yeah, we just don't want to give people COVID. We don't want just to Jeff it. Yeah. So it's something to think about. Uh, uh, did not have a coffee with me here because I just got done, like, I ran back in the house, but Jeff, how is your coffee? It was, uh, pretty good. I'll give it a seven point nine.

I had, uh, Joe's regular fucking trainer Joe's regular coffee. It's just like it's just like it's just like it's not fancy It's just coffee. No, it's good coffee. Yeah, uh, Gus. Gus. Did you have anything to drink today? I did and I had a coffee earlier this morning when I woke up And so did I yeah, what did you have? Was it here? Was it an American? Yeah, just the same thing as last time. Yeah, I just made myself an Americano with my coffee here And I had a cup of the Abates Chiapas. And it was fantastic. I got the Hario V60. It's ceramic. I've been doing a really great job. I got the size to paper non bleached filters. I've been really excited about my coffee making process, change my grind size, been doing some really cool stuff, really great experiment

stuff going on over here. Real quick, anarchy question. This is anarchy me anything, which is the name of the podcast. Here's a quick question from director Andrews on Twitter. What is a location that you tell visitors to Austin to avoid? Probably like dirty six. See had dirty six, stay the fuck off six street. I was just there for a comedy show recently.

There's like, it sucks, man. It's not getting any better. Let's get worse. Yeah. I think people want to go there to drink. There's like a lot of bars and stuff. And, but there's other places you can do that. Like a lot of places.

Between like 35 in Congress, like going west from 35. Like that's, that's a, that's tough. We know someone like, it could be dangerous sometimes, like especially at last call, when people are drunk, some people just want to fight. We have a friend who got like got sucker punched for no reason a few years ago, like at 205, 210 in the morning, like just walking down the street, going to their car,

going to their ride the morning, like just walking down the street going, you know, going to their car, going to the right. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, I would say that's probably it. Like if you're visiting Austin, you don't need to go. I would tell, honestly, I would tell people like don't go to rainy either, but that's just my personal I don't think there's anything there that you're really there's nothing else to me about it. It's just you know, it's like whatever It's fine. Bangers. Bangers is good. I'll throw another one out. Yeah, to me about it. It's just, you know, it's like whatever. It's fine. Bangers is good. I'll throw another one out.

Yeah, hit me with it. Don't eat at the oasis. That's it. I was just about to say it. You took it for me. Nice. Stay the fuck away from the oasis. There's no point.

It's a beautiful view if you wanna go out and see the lake and whatnot, but the food is not great. It's a place that really relies on the view. Being out there, plus it's far. I heard it's so far and not worth it. It's far. Further than you think, and there's like a 75% chance that when you get there, that lake is going to be dry.

Yep. And it's going to, it's just going to look like a bunch of nonsense. Yeah. Yep. I would also say don't, you don't need to go to L-O-Royo. Yeah. That's a lot of sucks. Yeah, it's not, it's not very good.

Their signs are just made for, hey, this is something you saw on Reddit. And then it's just, it's whack. I don't like you. I'll go, I'll say another one. I don't think Torchie's is worth going to anymore. I agree. I, I do agree with that. I know that it was like an Austin institution.

And maybe if you've never had text mex, you're like, oh, maybe I'll check that out. Go to Taco Deli, go somewhere else. Oh, yeah. Speaking of which, should we segue into something people should visit? What's that? Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, well, kind of RTX related. People can, who are coming to RTX, go to RTX austin.com, July 7th tonight. We'll be doing an Anmer recording there.

But Jeff, you were going to last week, you were going to talk about like a great place to get a hamburger, I think. Was that what you were setting up for? And I shut you down. I was like, save it for next week. Yeah, it's right. Shut him down. I don't remember.

I don't remember. There's some good ass hamburgers in Austin though. Was I talking about top notch? I've been going to top notch a lot. I've been like, huge top notch tear. It's on Burnett. If you come to Austin, my recommendation, and I don't know if you guys will agree with this or whatever, but I had a good time and it was very just old, whatever.

Texas, chilly parlor. Great time. Yeah. I really like it's not like the food is is gonna blow you away or the drinks gonna blow you away or whatever. I love that environment. That is a dark, old, mar. And it has chili that can be very hot. If you go into Texas chili, parlor,

it could be anywhere between like 1972 and 2023 and you don't know. It's just time has stopped in that building in like the best way. The best way. The only way you know that it's modern times is that the TVs are flat. Yeah.

That's it. If they had old tube TVs that were like hardwood and had like the knob dials on the line. Oh yeah. But they were showing like ESPN on 4.3. Like you'd be like, I think I went back in time. I think it might be like 82 in here. And if you go in there,

you'll see a big old pirate ship or like a long ship made out of matches. Ask him where that came from. And they'll tell you a funny story. Ooh. That's cool. You're cheating up some conversation. See this is good.

It's giving you a little in. It's also a place where Quentin Tarantino film death proof. So if you're looking for it's just another like here are some reasons to go and you could tell people I've learned this funny story. It was really a throwback in Quentin Tarantino film death proof there. So to me this week, that's that would be my recommendation. That's what I say that we should probably recommend Texas chili parlor. that's what I say that we should probably recommend Texas chili parlor.

I think also part of planet terror was filmed like at stage five like the the big doors opening. Yeah, I think that was that was stage five. Crazy, right? Yeah, we worked there for many years. Mm-hmm nuts. Well, come see us at RTX. Try these recommendations we are giving. Come see us at RTX July 7th through 9th like guess we're saying we are doing a live episode of anima So you can grab and a cup of coffee come hang out. I'm pretty sure We'll be on the show floor for that episode because they're so The way RTX is set up is a little bit different this year where it's not like Hey, we're gonna like sequester everyone into like these little rooms and nooks

We've really mostly focused on like live show stuff and I think our live show is going to be on the Show floor. There's also a separate like it like one other panel room But I think we're gonna be on the show floor so you can stop by grab a cup of coffee. You can hang out You can everything that you just heard the last 55 minutes. It's that be on the show floor. So you can stop by grab a cup of coffee, you can hang out, you can, uh, everything that you just heard the last 55 minutes, it's that, but you can see us. So that's fun for you. I want to give one more recommendation. If you do come down for RTX and you want to get coffee close to the convention center,

there is a house to coffee location, really close to the convention center. It's not the one we went to when recorded anma, but it's a different location. It's right there at fourth in Congress in the Frostbank Tower. We really raved about the coffee from house to when we got it a few episodes ago. There you have it. So come on down to RTX. Lots of things to check out.

Lots of things to see. A lot of live shows, the face museum. Very excited about the face museum. And face jam will be having beer, I I think, will help at the right and wrackle. So we'll see. Any parting thoughts as we take this to a close Jeff, are you holding in anything that you want to let out? No, just one more time. Just congratulations on, on 15 years of running a one show. That's a, it really is impressive.

I do shrink away a little bit from taking all the credit. Like I said, there were a lot of people involved. I don't want to. I understand, but you're the one constant through that time period. Yep, that's true. Thank you. There, obviously a tremendous, obviously,

you may be the least important part of it and probably do the least amount of work on it. And maybe even the least necessary, but you're the one that showed up every single week. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like Cal Ripken Jr. You're just like, that's what I keep telling people, is people would say, what's Gus like? And I say, he's just like Cal Ripken Jr.

And Jeff is just like his brother Billy McPain. Oh, there you go, go perfect this is a mess well uh thanks for this one we'll we'll see you guys next time bye bye describe the show between newcomer and a more familiar way do you like apples all right example together in trepid hosts charm of columns charm of Do you like apples? Alright, example. Together in Trempathos, Characombs. Characombs are free to deal with nothing to do with this podcast. Analyze various unsolved, and Ruestrates cryptic podcast,

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