ANMA - Paradise for Gentlemen

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

Good morning, Gus! We head downtown to Merit Coffee around West & 3rd. It's Geoff's old stomping grounds so he really takes the lead, maybe without knowing it. Gus & Geoff talk about Surviving ska, Dog people, Austin Music Hall, city expansion, Gus’s escrow, Texas city comparisons, & almost murdered in El Paso. Head over to Anarchymeanything.com to sign our guest book, grab a shirt, and check out our award for Web Excellence. Sponsored by BetterHelp http://betterhelp.com/anma Shady Rays http://shadyrays.com and use code ANMA and Bespoke Post https://bespokepost.com/anma. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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gaming technology to conquer the competition and free shipping on everything. Amazing prices await you for a limited time only at Alienware.com slash deals. That's Alienware.com slash deals. Alright, this is ANMA 76, the last one we were at Lamp Post Coffee. We're talking about third wave coffee. We talked about early voting, malls around Austin, movies at the Cheesecake Factory, having a tail, and Madame Webb. When are we going to get to fourth wave? It's the year 2024. I'm sick of third wave coffee. It's been around since the 90s. I want fourth wave coffee. Do you think that there could be fourth wave ska? Is there fourth wave ska? Do you know?

It feels like there's probably fourth wave ska, right? I would assume so. Yeah. Yeah I think so. I think Scott Punk was or like, yeah Scott Punk was like fourth wave, right? Yeah I don't get it wave was still like scovv in the epitones. Yeah Yeah, so so we're so you're saying we're in this scovv era And I'm not for it. We got to get to fourth wave I guess give me maybe more pop. Ah fuck who cares? Call Bruce Green. I'll give a shit. I Like how he's the one who dove into it. They got mad at himself. We're like No, I'm thinking about it

There's some knowledge and memories you start to unlock and you're like I want to go back through it. I survived Scott I don't know if you got. I survived Scott. I don't think I went through Scott. Survived Scott. We all did. Uh-huh. So this is unusual. We're at Merritt Coffee down off of Weston, third, Weston, fourth, and close to Seahome. And we've done what you said.

This is episode 76. This is the first time I've seen Jeff walk with purpose and like lead the way. You would like, let the way through the coffee shop straight to line, we left and you were like a bullet, like straight for a while. Out of the car. I just don't have time for the nonsense.

No. But what, you're driving really begs to differ on that one. No, I think it's just because for about two years, this was my front yard. Yeah, when I was going through the divorce and transitioning into finding a new home and stuff, I lived in a condo. I'm not gonna out it, but I lived in a condo

very, very close to here. Got it. There's like 10, 15 you can see around us. I lived in one. I considered this to be my front yard. Ah, there's a Yes, it was it was it was unusual seeing you do that merit coffee was my coffee shop for two years We walked in that shop from the door that was yes, and But it was fine because we had somebody a Sherpa leading us all the way to where we needed to be

I would have gone the wrong way to be like. He walked around the counter and got into a line that I didn't know existed. Oh, that's a way to go apparently. It's just a place I know. I don't know what to say. So I think Merrick Coffee is actually a San Antonio, oh yeah, it is a San Antonio. They are. I talked to the dude who was running the one on the triangle one time and he told me all about it.

He's an RT fan. I've been to that one before. I have not drank from this coffee yet, but I've drank at some of the other locations. Normally, it's really good We'll get into that in a bit, but they they I saw this thing in there Which pissed me off which Eric kept telling me to wait. Oh, I just can't say oh my god save it Oh my god save it people take their dogs too many places. I have a dog thing right here. I'm a dog person Yeah, but like I feel like every other time I go to the grocery store someone's got their fucking dog in there Yeah, and someone had their dog here in Merritt and apparently it's fine

They're like I'll acknowledge Merritt had a bowl for water for a dog inside the establishment Which I personally think is kind of weird, but whatever that's their prerogative. They can do that That's fine if the company if the establishment's okay with it That's on them But this dude walked in with a dog. The dog walked straight up to the counter, got on its hind legs and put its paws on the counter where people get their food and their coffee. And then the dude reached over, what if he grabbed something like water or something? It was like a, it was like a tree, like a little tree.

Yeah, and started giving it to the dog while the dog's slobbering all over the counter where people get their food and their coffee. It's like, okay, that's too far. And then he proceeded to come over and get in everyone's way and block the only way in and out. Yeah. Uh, if the dog, it, the way the dog stood at the counter. What kind of dog was this? Uh, uh, a healer, blue healer, that thing. Uh, the way the dog stood at the counter and put his paws on the counter at the perfect height,

looked like he was about to pull out glasses, put them on and order his own drink. Yes Like a shaggy D.A. It really was a shaggy D.A. type situation. It's too much. It's too much I get it. It's fine. Don't let your dog put their paws on the counter and slobber all over it Have them sit. They're a good boy. They deserve a treat. Give it to them on the ground Not where the people food and the people drinks go. Please. Someone's going to put their hands there. Then they're going to shake my hand.

I'm going to have dog shit all over my hand. I don't want it. Let's talk about dog shit for a second. Let's talk about one of my favorite spots in Austin. This giant square of fake grass right here. Yeah. That is set out with a bunch of Adirondack chairs. It's bordered by, if you're not here, it's bordered by a pet store, a Trader Joe's,

ice cream store, the coffee shop, there's a true foods restaurant. So it's just like a little square, like a little patch of grass, park area almost, in the middle of all of these establishments. But it's small, right? It's like the size of, it's maybe like the length of a basketball court. If that. Yeah, if that. And it's a square. So, but what you will see if you come down here

on the weekends or if you live here like I used to, moms and dads bring their kids to this little patch of grass here and they play all day long. You just see like by about 2 p.m. they'll just be 30 strollers here and there'll just be kids running around playing ball and rolling around and having a time. It's adorable.

At about 7 p.m. they all go home to feed their kids and stuff and everybody who lives here, they all bring their dogs out to take pisses and shits right there on that spot of fake land, a fake grass, right? All night long, thousands of dogs piss all over this. And then in the morning, the kids come out and they roll around in it. And it's all fucking rich kids.

It's all these rich kids and strollers just rolling around in dried dog piss. I will say that is on the parents. Yeah. Because there's very clearly a dog waste station right here in one of the quarters with baggies. Like you know what the purpose of this is with bad guys. No, I know. Like, you know what the purpose of this is.

It's 100% on the parents. But Emily and I would sit here and we'd go to that like baked bear place every once in a while and get some ice cream. And I just be by myself. I just sit and I just watch kids roll around. Sometimes in the day you can watch like a dog would come up, take a piss, then leave and then three minutes later a lady pull up a stroller and kid will go fucking do a somersault right through it. That's kind of tangential to the reason you know when we would go do a lot of events back in the day you know people bring us stuff to sign.

Yeah. And it's part of the reason if anyone ever handed me a shoe to like sign I would never sign a shoe. Ugh, he's gonna sign the shoes. Yeah that's all it is. Like it's not just what you're talking about is not a phenomenon limited to that grass patch It's it's everywhere. It's I have a real problem with people that don't tie their shoes for that Oh, yeah, my daughter used to do that a lot. She just walk around. So I don't care Just have untied shoelaces and it's like no because those shoelaces are now covered in piss and shit Yeah, and dead animals and rotting food and everything that touches the ground.

Remember, I've said this before, all of this that we see right now is a toilet for birds. A dinosaur probably took a big dump somewhere around here. Yeah, but it's powering my car now. Yeah, that's a lot of supplies. Yeah. Uh, yeah, it's just gross. And so I don't get when people wear shoes inside of a house. Like you're just tracking all of that in.

Yeah. Eric's thinking of a counterpoint. No, no, no counterpoint. I was gonna, I started thinking about, so when you have people over, you ask them to take off your shoes, but you don't have people over. Right, problem solved.

Yeah, there you go. Done and done. So really, that's why I stopped and paused. The words were coming out of my mouth, but then I answered my own question. I have a little box of shoe booties by my door. So if there's service people, like electricians or plumbers who come by,

I ask them to put it on. You ever offer those guys a beer? I offer them water. I would never offer them a beer. When they're getting done, I'm just like, one for the road. And usually the guys are like, ah, no, that's all right. But I've had one or two guys that are like, all right. Yeah, those are my guys. This is where we're sitting here

This is a part of Austin. That's obviously if you look around it's undergone extreme transformation They're the none these but none of these buildings used to be here But I think I will say all the transformation here took place eight nine years ago. It's been pretty it's been this for a while Yeah, I for some reason I still feel like that's fairly recent, but you're right. It has all been here a while. In fact, that over there, the monarch, that building, that condo, I think we mentioned it once in the past. One of the former Austin mayors used to live there, Will Wynn. And it was kind of a local scandal because there was security camera footage of him choking a dude out.

Really? I guess like Will, he was, the mayor was having a party and some dude who wasn't invited showed up and they got into an altercation and he, the mayor started beating him up and choking him and it was on like the surveillance footage from the condo and it was like it was playing non-stop on the local news for a while. That's why we say in Austin our mayor could beat up your mayor. But I don't think we say that anymore. But there used to be a lot of,

obviously before they built all this stuff, there was other things here before. Whenever I come down to this area, I was thinking about like, I don't remember exactly where it was anymore, but like LaZona Rosa and Austin Music Hall used to be around. I think Austin Music Hall was a little used to here

over there, by kind of by where Mellow Johnny's is maybe. Well, LaZona Rosa was also by Mellow Johnny's. If you go further, it's 4th Street, right? You go further down, it's still there. The building is still there. Oh's is maybe? La Zona Rosa was also by Mellow Johnny's. If you go further, it's 4th Street, right? You go further down. It's still there. The building is still there. Oh, is it? Yeah, it's like a workspace now or something.

And I don't know if you remember about La Zona Rosa on the outside. Used to have pictures of like Willie Nelson and famous musicians that have played there. They're all still there. Oh, okay. Like the building is still there, it looks the same. It's just some tech company or something.

The Austin Music Hall building is definitely gone though. Right on the other, yeah., like the building is still there. It looks the same. It's just some tech company or something The Austin music is definitely gone though. Yeah, the Austin music holds definitely That's why I remember being in my now. It's a new Austin music all right early to Mid-20s I guess before we did Roussity going just like a bunch of different concerts like well not like I saw weezer There with you at the Austin music. Yeah, I saw also garbage there We saw tenacious D there. I think yeah, I think so That's how long ago that was when if it if an so some of those it's like an act wasn't big enough to fill an arena But still like super popular because it was a big venue, but too big to play like emos, right? Yeah, it's like it was like the perfect size mid-size venue

for Acts like that of that caliber. It definitely picked up a lot because we used to have a place called Liberty Lunch that was a little bit bigger than Nemo's and it kind of filled that space. Like that's where I saw the Cranberries play. But when Liberty Lunch closed, then like Austin Music Hall would be like a Cranberries destination. Talking about like level of band. Right.

Oh man, speaking of music venues, on the way in we drove down 35 and we drove by the Irwin Center Which is being demolished got replaced by the Moody Center. Yeah, and now if you like look through so the Irwin Center used to be music venue Pretty pretty decent size. It's kind of locally famous because it's right off the interstate and it says it's a circular building It looks like a flan. It looks like a what a flan. It looks like a flan. It looks like a what? A flan? It looks like a flan. Yeah. Yeah, it does. And now, like, they're tearing it down because the Moody Center opened up.

And you can look through it from 35. If you look over as you're in traffic, you can see straight through it. You can see that they've gutted it, and they're just tearing all the innards out, which was exciting. I don't even think that had been around too long. I think the Irwin Center only got

constructed in the early 70s, maybe. So maybe it was around, like, 50 years. I think the Irwin Center only got constructed in the early 70s maybe, so maybe it was around like 50 years. I saw, did you ever see the documentary searching for Sugarman? Came out, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago now? I never did now, but I heard of it. I saw Rodriguez perform at the Irwin Center. Did you really?

Yeah, after that documentary, he did a couple of tours. How was it? It was great. I think that might be the only concert I ever saw in the Irwin Center. Oh man, I saw um When I was 18 years old my friend made me go with him to a Pink Floyd laser light show there They had that there

Yeah at the Irwin Center, they had a Pink Floyd laser light show and this would have been 1994 Probably or 95 and I was I hated it Wasn't my scene at the time and he was on acid so he loved it. I was not I hated it wasn't my scene at the time and he was on acid so he loved it I was not and then the only other concert I think I went to is I saw I took Millie and her friends to see panic at the Disco there And that's that's what that's the entirety of my experience at Frank Oren Center I think I saw a pink Floyd laser light show at like the Natural History Museum in Houston when I was like Do they still do those anymore?

It's where you go in your 18 apparently because I was also 18 when I was like 18. Do they still do those anymore? I don't know, but I was a big deal for a while. It's where you go when you're 18, apparently, because I was also 18 when I saw it. Oh, oh, oh. So this past weekend, I drove through San Antonio, and I had a memory of something in Austin that you and I used to see fairly regularly, and we would always laugh about. When we worked at the call center down south,

we've talked about some of the other businesses that were there off of Burleson, close by. We talked about Happy Taco, we talked about that Mermaid's Place. But right across the street, I don't remember when it was. It might have been 2000, 2001. This establishment opened up in one of those Like a little house malls. No, no, it was like, you know how you come out There's like the conico was right there like just to the left was that little building

The one where rubber arigas worked, but they had the old trouble maker studios I thought that was down to the right that was oh, you're right. That was to the right Yeah, and that conico had slush puppies. You did with some times you would go on break Yeah, get slush puppies You know you guys are you get slush puppies you guys told me that specifically when we drove by that And it was like man, this is it's hard living It was not much out there my historical knowledge of candy related things is huge dude But uh, there a business opened up around 2000 or 2001 and it was called Paradise for Gentlemen

I remember the night they had a neon sign out there on Burleson. And it was like a shapely palm tree with two suggestive coconuts on it. That's a wow, you, that got them. Yeah, do you remember it now? I do. And that business was around for a while. And then eventually it closed.

And then one day, they took the neon sign away. I was like, oh, that's sad. It was always funny to see the neon sign. And be like, that's a sexy palm tree. But then a couple of months later later we saw it in San Antonio like some business either the business had moved or someone had reappropriated it and it was like off. I remember exactly where it's like off of 35 and 410 maybe somewhere in that neighborhood and

Like just driving like off the freeway. It's like holy shit Anyway, I drove through San Antonio this past weekend and the sign wasn't there who knows how long it's been gone but I drove by there I was like oh man that's where the Paradise for Gentlemen sign used to be after it left Austin and it was just like it was so funny to me to think about do you think that do you think that sign is just making its way down at 35 like it's in Laredo now the body of a 35 to 40 year old was found face down in the parking lot at Paradise for Gentlemen in the 4000 block of North, North Panam Expressway.

This is from 2012. What's Panam Expressway? Where is that? San Antonio. So you're probably right that it is moving. They're like, that was probably the end of it there. And I bet it's just moving south paradise is just slowly headed south It's climate change really You gotta move I tried it's funny cuz after I thought about it. I tried googling to look for the neon sign looking for it now

It's killing me. I couldn't find it Do you ever take a photo of it? I know I know it was like before I would yeah I I said I tried over the weekend to find a But an image of it. I just couldn't find it this dude's dogs about to go take a big-ass piss right I know that and then some little girl on a sundress is gonna go fucking play with her doll there Send me that They found it! She found it! Send me that so I can put it on the website.

Send me that so I can jack off to it again. I had to put it in quotes, Paradise for Gentlemen, and then search San Antonio, Texas. I was searching for Austin. Okay, it probably had a longer life than San Antonio. There are actually a few pictures of it. This is pretty crazy.

I should have searched San Antonio. I was only searching Austin. I mean, who would have thought? Yeah, well, it was only in Austin for a It was in it was in San Antonio for way longer. I will say calling that a palm tree is Really bold that's just that's wow. That's really That's very shapely. I told you yeah, I jacked off. Yeah, send me that image. I'll put it on the website Yeah, I'll put something on it But it was it was like such a core memory, something we saw every day.

And I totally forgot about it. I probably could have gotten my whole life and died without ever thinking about that sign again. But just driving down that section of road in San Antonio, we drove down that stretch of Burleson in Austin a couple of weeks ago. We did. We did. And I didn't think about it.

But driving down that stretch in San Antonio is like, oh, paradise for gentlemen. I would have never thought about it for the rest of my life if you hadn't mentioned the palm trees Like even when you mentioned the name I was like yeah I do remember that that was a place and I was thinking of myself It was that one of those like all nude places or is that what the thing was but no is yeah It was the palm tree. I have no idea what that business was It was just we worked really close to it and saw that sign all the time. You didn't know what the business Well, I have a good idea. Yeah, but I think I knew what the business. I don't know if they jack you off for you jack yourself off

Like what's it work here? How much you've got? Yeah, that's absolutely right And then you get found nude in the parking lot face down Betty died happy though There's a couple of places like that still around town. There's that place over there by the office right off of 35. Pleasures. Pleasures. That's been there forever. I used to live right over there. Like on sort of like on that other side.

And you never saw people go in and out, but you would see cars parked there. It's just go there. You can't be good. It's not a place that you think you look at and you think, yeah, there's pleasure in there definitely No, it should be called pains. Yeah Oh bread

All of that I think is getting demolished. Oh, is it? 35 expansion that the the no one's bounding a campaign to save pleasures. No, I just want to say that that spot There's like a little tea shop. Oh, yeah, right there. That's getting That's a weird location. That whole strip is a weird location speaking a stuff that's getting demolished and developed Did you see it looks like that? I think the city finally approved the development of that area just south of the river Where like Joe's Crab Shack is oh, yeah apartment where we went and fixed Fiona's friends computer is like all that area is Gonna be they just like right you can build I Think like 50 stories high now, and they're gonna like dense it in it's gonna be like the Austin American statesman was

Yeah, that whole strip is gonna be really yeah I think the old statesman location there that the envision like almost like a second downtown Yeah, you just go across the river, and it's just more high rises and yeah built out It's basically gonna be like what will you see north of the river just immediately on the other side? I mean fine good I love it. Austin Cidercade must be fucking Losing it. They must be so stoked. Well the fucking Austin American Statesman building has just been sitting empty forever And that's a huge space five four years for five years

Yeah, I mean it was empty enough to film a bunch of that fun house sketch comedy show in there Went down there and filmed it. It was just like all this places MD Empty crazy. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see like the skyline is so Different since when we moved here will be wild to see it spread to the other side of the river there's always been such a barrier, you know such a dividing line between In Austin, it's a'll be interesting to see somebody finally like try to bridge that gap and connect it.

I was talking to Brandon Farmerhe yesterday about this. How do you feel about what you would call like, there's proposal for what you would call like a second downtown or what people are calling it up at a domain. Do you care at all? Does that matter to you? I feel like people say that all the time.

Like they say that about the domain. They say that about Riverside where the ballpark was. They say that about the, what, Brody Oaks down south. Yeah, but have you guys driven, have you guys been to the domain lately or driven by it? Yeah, it's nuts. It looks like a second downtown. Yeah, there's a stadium and a top golf.

And there's like golf. There's the headquarters to fucking indeed is there. Yeah, it's a pretty big space and there's already Six or seven buildings that are in the 20s 20 story rain But that's how I feel about it is like just do it They raise the variance there too like you can you're gonna be able to develop higher there. Why not? expand in that area to Eliminate the need for everyone to come down here all the time. That's like Houston, right? Houston has like...

Houston's nuts. Houston has three downtowns. Like three clustered downtowns. But that's like every major cities do that. Not everything has to be in the 15 block radius of right here. I think that... I think we all agree with you. Good.

We're gonna keep it that way. It's become strangely like everything else in this country right now it's become like a politicized fight right like the idea of building everything close to people and having like walkable 15-minute cities is viewed as like the attempt to take cars away from people

right okay right I take them away I don't give you dumbest thing in the world if I didn't have to drive everywhere I would love it. Yeah, if we rock so hard if we could walk to everything or like those public transportation Take all the cars away So we'd have to live like those poor miserable sons of bitches in the rest of the world with their public transport now when we I had our studio downtown and I lived, you know Over on West what is that West 6th West 5th?

I would take the bus to work downtown every day, to and from. Like, I loved it. It was fucking great. Can you imagine living in a city with the Dillow again? Like, if I lived downtown and the Dillow existed again, I wouldn't need anything. Mm-hmm. I miss that shit. You guys have talked about it before? I would love if that was something. I would love if we had that stuff. I know that they're doing like express bus expansion

that's gonna go right by our office. That's gonna come down to, they're like building. Oh, I saw that, yeah. It's like in Mueller. It goes out towards like, I think it'll take you to the airport. It goes to like the Expo Center.

It comes downtown. It stops in Mueller. And it's like, it drops you off right by the the moody center Yeah, so I was excited. I was like I could just get on that bus from the office and go straight to the airport Did you imagine? Yeah, like dude that would that would be fucking awesome. Yeah, I would love to have that I might use it. Yeah Weird god Anyway

Who knew public transit so polarizing fucking do it so stupid. I got I think I texted you guys about this I got so fucking mad the other day unreasonably mad You know, it's a new year. I got an email from my mortgage provider. That was like there's a shortage in your escrow All right, click on the link in this email to find out more. I was like, OK. I clicked it. And rather than taking me to a website where I can log in

and view my mortgage, it took me to a quote unquote personalized video that explained the escrow shortage to me. So rather than just showing me a static website with my mortgage and how much I owe and what the escrow shortage is, it took me to a two minute video that it's that started with hello Gustavo. This is what an escrow is. It's a two minute long explanation of an escrow. And then in the video it's like and here is your shortage. It's

like 30 bucks a month or whatever. $360 over the year. Yeah, I was like, okay, that's why couldn't why did I have to watch this video? Why did you why not just send me the fucking email or tell me to log into my account? Let me look at it like I don't need a primer on this. I don't need you to explain escrow to me I already have it. I'm paying the bills for fucking five years. I understand escrow right and I understand the Valley for Someone who's maybe getting a you know, who's their first experience in the mortgage? Yeah, have the video as an option for them if they want to see it for an explanation Yeah, also just give me the information directly. I don't know how often I see

I don't know if you want if you are subscribed to the personal finance subreddit, but I feel like Multiple times a week. It's a post from someone who says hey my mortgage payment went up this year I don't know why but I have to pay three hundred dollars a month more than I did last year Does anyone know why it's like yeah, your property taxes went up. Yeah. Or like, you didn't fight your property tax. Or it's a new build. And the previous year, when you bought it, it was assessed on the undeveloped land and

now there's a house on it. So it's being assessed the tax value with a house on it. And it's just wild to me how much that can go up and no one warns you when you buy your house. Like, hey, your house is going to get revalued and you might have to pay a lot more on your mortgage next year because a lot of people might just budget for what the, this is my payment, this is what I'm going to be paying, not realizing it could be very different next year.

Like I think that's irresponsible. It, here's, always be aware that it can go up. Very rarely can it ever go down. Be prepared for it to go up. Yeah, the government's not going, that's fine. We'll take less money. We looked at it and we're charging you too much. I'm gonna cut you some slack. Hey, sorry about that. Let's give it a little guy. We had an overage in our side. We've taken too much money from it. We have an escrow overage. side. We've taken too much money. We have an escrow over.

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code ANMA. So I was driving, like I said, I was driving through San I was driving through San Isha under the other day. So I had to drive up and down 35 and it's always interesting to me once you get a little further out of Austin billboards. I love billboards. I think they're incredibly stupid. Yeah, it's the best. So, and then I love when I see a stupid billboard. And out there between like new brothels in San Marcos, there's this one billboard that's always like super political. And I was like, ooh, I wonder if they changed it. And they did. It was a, it's always something about keeping, knowing the past I've seen stuff about keeping Californians

out of Texas and things like that. But the message you changed a little bit this time, it was a close the dang border, keep Texas red. I was like okay now not mad at the Californians anymore, mad at the border, the different border. Yeah. But I was driving through Kyle. Gotta be mad at somebody though. Can't just be cool. But I was driving through Kyle and there was a billboard for a lawyer that we don't see an often. It was like, I guess a Kyle based lawyer. And it was like, I forgot what the name of the law firm was,

but they built him, he built himself as warrior lawyer. And I kept saying it out like a warrior lawyer, warrior lawyer, warrior lawyer. That's a real, that's a real, That's a real, Jackie John Trump. I was like, man, that's a real George or Jackie George, George, that is a That's not the best thing. I saw another one that just said like what is it? Log gun. What does that mean? No, no, I've seen log. Have you okay? That's my wife's favorite one

She thinks that's so she's like that's the funniest thing that you could be as a lawyer is log gun I love like everyone has to like make a like a carve out their their niche like what that's the funniest thing that you could be as a lawyer is a law gun. I love it. Everyone has to make a carve out their niche. Like, what are they? The law gun. But yeah, small town billboards are the best, especially once you go to Austin. I feel like once you go north out of Austin, it becomes very religious. Lots of Jesus billboards. One of the craziest things was when we were the year of the election, the last election,

we took a road trip up to Detroit from Austin and so we drove through Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, a bunch of places. And we just, we counted by state, like, just for fun, how many Trump ads versus Biden ads from state to state. It was interesting to see I don't remember the figures now, but it was interesting To see and it was a staggering amount of Trump billboards. Yeah, and and homemade signs and like yeah Yeah, just everywhere. I didn't see many billboards on the streets probably not close enough for the election yet

Yeah, but I did see a lot of Flags and homemade signs a lot of signs. People are very passionate about it. Bummer. A lot of passion out there. If only people would take that passion and do something with it other than fucking paying a sign, but maybe those people shouldn't be engaged in their passions. Maybe we should do it. Yeah, you keep making signs. We already did that. That's the difference we need to make. We did that. that making your dumb signs. We did that one day in January

That's probably fine work. Yeah The science I haven't been down here to this area in a while You see at this true food kitchen every now and then pretty good And I guess I could every now and then I might come to Trader Joe's I'm not like crazy about Trader Joe's like some other people. Oh really? I love it There's definitely like some people who are all about it. It's fine. It's just very cheap Yeah, and that when you find the stuff you like there you were I just really there's certain things I really like there and like they have a really good like

Frozen like chicken the solid thing that I love to eat you pop it in the microwave No, because my microwaves broken So you didn't go buy one for like 30 bucks. What do you do? Because I don't really use a microwave that often I did it for 128 minutes and it got lukewarm. Yeah, let's hope it out. Yeah, you spoiled me this time Ramsey Let's hope it out. Damn. Yeah, you foiled me this time Ramsey But yeah, I remember it was a big deal. This was was it this was the first Trader Joe's in Austin now Who was the first one? Oh, it was over in rolling what or like off of BK out towards the Hudson on the bend or whatever Yeah, that was it was a but that restaurant hasn't been there in 40 years I don't know why some that people were freaking the fuck out when that was opened

Like lines it was it was nuts. Yeah, that was the first one There's one up at the Arboretum and then there's this one. I think there's only three in town. Yeah Yeah, there are there's the Arboretum one this one and that one out there. I think that's it Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I always go to the Arboretum one I don't just cuz this one might actually be closer to me where I live, but it's just a fucking pain to Drive a car downtown now Yeah, but I'm gonna try to park over here. I hear is easier the parking lot at the Arboretum is terrible I've never really that's not true. Yeah, you might walk a bit, but yeah

Yeah, it's uh, and I don't people get really aggressive people some guy got really mad at me out of light the other day I pulled up like there were a few cars in front of me. I was in a left turn lane Uh-huh, and they all started going then I think two cars in front of me as he was going through the intersection The light turned yellow So he went through the car in front of me continued going through because it was yellow then I didn't go through because I knew was about to turn round and The guy behind me I could see him over here me or started honking and throwing his hands up all angry and like hitting his steering wheel. I was like, I, you know, I felt uncomfortable but going through that. Like that guy definitely-

He would have been extra fast, yeah. Yeah, he would have been red the entire time he went through. And I was like, why is that guy so- like we ended up waiting, I timed it, it was like 70 seconds until the green arrow came back on and we could go. I was like, why did you that mad over a minute? I'm gonna, I'm gonna glass is half full the situation I'm gonna say that that guy he wasn't being a dick cuz he was mad at you. He was frustrated cuz he had Explosive diarrhea, maybe and he's just trying to get home to his toilet. He's like I've been in that situation. I'm in that situation a lot. Yeah, 70 seconds is a long time. This dog is gonna do it, too

Yeah That's right where kids gonna play with this little transformer toy roll around in it if you'll get really angry in their cars I my go-to move if someone makes me mad you know cuts me a whole man I got cut off the other day rather than like flip someone off or get really angry that's kind of shake my head and give them a thumbs down so disappointed them so disappointed I'm not mad I'm disappointed. Yeah, could have done so much better. Thumbs down. It's just so degrading. I saw a cross walk guard, a crossing guard do that once.

And I was like, oh, that's the move. That's such a f**k you. Like someone blew through the lane when she was trying to stop it for kids to cross. And she just like thumbs down them really aggressively. I was like, oh, that's it. You know that thumb hit hard. Yeah. I was like that that's the way to do it. Oh, that now the dog's taking the dump Yeah, fuck yeah, that's where I'm a roller end in that so you lived around here. You come over to Mariette What are the other spots that you had hit in this area that you felt like were your spots? Well there weren't a ton

Because I was getting sober and most of the shit around here is bars. That's definitely true. And most of the shit around here that isn't a bar has a bar-like atmosphere. And so I felt pretty... It was probably at the best time to live downtown above a bunch of bars. Cool spot. Just the way it worked out. Great spot.

So I loved here... I used to go to Irene's a lot, which is a little restaurant it worked out. Great spot. But so I loved here. I used to go to Irene's a lot, which is a little restaurant bar over there. I like Irene's. I used to go to Frank and Angie's all the time. Obviously, it's gone now. Sammy's is there. It's awesome.

We're at Frank and Angie's in the fucking hamburger hut she used to be. Uh, yeah. There's a place over there now called Favorite Pizza that's fucking awesome And I recommend anybody in Austin who wants or anybody visiting who just wants a quick slice of New York style pizza And to have a little bit of a New York vibe when they do it. It's a great spot I said honestly

I always considered whole foods and Trader Joe's to be my places because I had like whole foods on one side of me and Trader Joe's on the other and so it was awesome. It was, I don't know, that's where I spent a lot of my time. That Whole Foods has like seven restaurants in it. That's great. Yeah, there's so many different places to eat there. That favorite pizza place, they used to be a liquor store. What's it called? Like Centennial Liquor? It's the first place I ever, first liquor store I ever went into. It's the first liquor store I bought liquor from when I turned 21. Wow, really? Yeah.

It's the first liquor store I ever set foot in. You and I bought a bottle of rum there one time When our office was downtown we walked over here I think we had had lunch at Whole Foods on the way back we stopped by that liquor store We bought a bottle of rum we're walking back to the office and we got to the office That was the day Brandon was like interviewing to work for us Oh, wow, and he was on his way out I think he was talking to Bernie and he walked up with that bottle of rum And you just looked at him say we're gonna get drunk

And he walked upstairs to the office That was the first time we ever met Brandon for me. That was our first interaction with him That's also not the first liquor store I ever walked into I don't know why I said that I'm just sitting here thinking about that's not true Hmm, I can't be true I don't know in my head it I thought it was true for a second It's definitely an early place But I turn but I'm just trying to go back and try to reconnect the dots and you realize your memories are a little foggy Yeah, you were 21 before you got here. Yeah, but I was 21 in Texas. Oh true. Yeah, I was in clean

And I would come down here a lot But I think I'm confusing it with another liquor store in Austin But even then I think I probably went to one on base. Yeah, so you probably get that over there It's probably total bullshit liquor stores on base. Yeah. Yeah, everything on base wild. Yeah liquor Tax-free liquor on base at the army. Why not? You're at the army. You're not on you're on deployment. You're fucking you're off a lot of times You're on the government prop. You're on what they want to make money, too They got a whole store there

Right, I guess just liquor is a weird thing that I would I wouldn't think that the government would be like yes sell it on our Probably a dude. They want to make money. Yeah, it's like a company store. It's the military It's just like it's the way the world used to work before we had unions. It's like yeah If you fucking buy it here put it on credit. We don't care. Then you'll owe us forever. You'll never get out of the fucking army. The dollar is company money. Yeah. Yeah.

Makes you think. Interesting. Makes you think. I don't know what it makes you think about, but it makes you think. If you're at home right now and you're thinking, let us know. Yeah, you're welcome. Let us know what it was you thought about.

Let's talk about merit a little bit. So the reason that I wanted to come to Merritt outside of it being in the spot and everything, I gave you guys two locations to pick from. And we picked this one. Merritt just got the contract with Austin FC at Q2 Stadium to provide the Cold Brew coffee, which they'd never done before. They'd never had coffee at the stadium, which is fucking insane.

Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, especially in the middle of summer, where it's so fucking hot, like just get cold brew. Let me just chug it. They have the contract now to have that there. So they have like a little corner area where in one of like the snack area, like snack bar things or whatever. Not an Austrian business. Okay. That's what I wanted to say. There are other places that were up for that contract that didn't get it That are Austin based and they went with the San Antonio one It's weird like for people who aren't from here even the airport here in Austin is all like all the food is local places

Yeah, we kind of it's kind of a thing in Austin. They pride themselves on on Supporting local business. It's a thing in q2 stadium. Yeah, they had they had slova checks. They have easy tiger They have one taco They have pluckers. They have all these Austin places is why I don't Austin or Dallas. I don't know I thought I was assumed it was Austin, but I could be wrong. I don't know. Is it? I Couldn't believe that Merritt got that contract not being a Austin business. That's so crazy.

Everything, all their branding is San Antonio. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, that's why I said, like I think this place from San Antonio, I looked at the cup like, oh yeah, San Antonio. Could not believe that it got, that a non-Austin based place got that, especially with the amount of coffee shops and roasteries that we have here.

To go with Merit. 100% local, I was wrong. That's what I thought. I really like, one taco is the only place that my wife will get Tacos really in Austin because it'll be the little street taco. She just wants She wants carne asada onion cilantro put on the taco. Let me eat all the classes two bites each Oh, well speaking of tacos. I saw that a very cruise has birria tacos now. I must be the brick and mortar Not a trailer, but I'm gonna go check that out.

Okay. So, Merritt San Antonio has like three or four locations in Austin. Yeah. There's one down south from where we are. There's one here on fourth. And then I think there's one on like North Lamar. The triangle, yeah.

And so there's like, there's a few, but that's, they're just on like one drag Let's just take it over right like free birds isn't technically an Austin business, but we've We've claimed it for many many years. Let's just claim merit. It's ours. Just cuz it started in San Antonio doesn't mean It's not trying to do stop us. Yeah, what are they gonna do? Kicker ass spurs having city. Oh, yeah yeah did you get spurs tickets I did a lot tickets to spurs nuggets on March 15th I think you're in Austin yeah look for Jeff on TV well they show him instead of Drake and John Mulaney and

every other opportunity that's the reason I picked that game is because we went Eric and I went last year and we saw like a rod and I don't even remember who else saw the San Antonio creature. So I'm saying a creature They've been doing this thing where they're last year. They had two San Antonio Spurs games in Austin this year I think they have four or eight And they're really trying to expand it and like a week long thing They're doing stuff all over it's first week in Austin that week the reason I wanted to go this year Actually, I wanted to go because women young I want to see him, but the tickets were ridiculous coyote But the reason yeah the creature the the main reason I wanted to go is I realized this game is

Is gonna be an awesome on the main Friday of South by Southwest? Oh God when the and Joker NBA champion Joker playing against each other So I figured the celebrity sighting and the nonsense is good But through the roof for sure so there's no way on this in that game So the NBA is feeling out Austin for a team then is what I'm gathering. No fucking chance I can hope so what there's no way the Spurs or anyone else is going to let Austin have this they are it is the Spurs going Think we make money off this fucking dope ass city. Yeah, hell yeah The only way I got the Mavericks and the spurs here and of course Rockets, but it's like the spurs an Austin team in the mavericks you get the 35 series. Yeah all up and down the I-35

so there What people are saying Behind the scenes is that they're saying behind the scenes is that there If Austin is to ever get an NBA team It would have to be the spurs moving from San Antonio to Austin and there has been some discussion Listen over the last few years. We took merit. We're gonna take the fucking spurs. I'll train him Yeah, no, it's like that was yeah, we took your coffee now. We're taking your team. Hell. Yeah Here's the creature dressed like baby Yoda. It's a coyote. It's not a creature

You move the spurs to Austin I'll be a fucking spurs fan. Oh, yeah. Why not? Fuck it. Absolutely. And if you keep the creature, I'm way in. Now we're gonna make it a bat. Oh, I like that.

Yeah. Put just put wings on. Have you ever seen him be Batman? No. Oh, okay. So the thing that happens in a lot of Spurs games is bats fly in. This is real. Bats fly in and they have it's rabies night at the Spurs. They have him dressed like Batman and he will go out with a net

and catch the bat. Oh my God. What is that? The AT&T Center? Yeah, it's called. It is such a dump. Is it? Yeah, you never been. I actually saw a Spurs game there once, but it was a long time. It was like 20 years ago or something. I've been to about half of the NBA stadiums now and it is definitely in the bottom. I saw the Spurs from what I've seen. When I was a kid. Frostbank, right? Frostbank Center? Is that what it's called? Oh, you used to be AT&T. Yeah, yeah. I saw the Spurs play the Suns at the Alamo Dome once. That was fucking garbage. What year was that? That would have been like 94 95. Yeah You watch Charles Barkley suit up

Here's the key melange one with the fuck it was a long time ago. Wow So back on it merit is a San Antonio thing it's here in Austin. What did you guys think of the coffee? I mean you I think are I'm I might be biased because I've been a Merit fan for a while I have even transferred my love of Merit to the Triangle location. That's actually one of my like four or five in my rotation I go there and I work sometimes and so I'm a fan I give this iced coffee a 9. I think I praise perfect 9 like right down like not 9.1 not a point 9 9 even I think

this is this is a great americano it's not the best in the world that I've had I think we've had we've had better here but it's really solid I would give this like 8.2 this place to me is the Rudy's barbecue coffee. Yeah I mean that's a fairer says like you can go to Franklin you could go to Desnudo but if you don't want to wait in line Rudy's barbecue and merit always gonna have a plus coffee is Rudy's barbecue an awesome place yes I think we claim it but it's actually from the Hill country I think it's all right you're right yeah that's what I wanted But we've been claiming it for a very long time.

That's like it with merit. I'd say no, and nobody knows, just like with free birds. You say it long enough, you claim it long enough, it becomes yours. Yep. I think this is a fine cup of coffee, seven, five. I think it's good. I liked the last one that we had more, but this was fine.

I think I liked this one more than Lamp Post, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The dog slobbering on the counter I think I like this one more than lamppost. I think yeah, yeah the dog Slavery Did my head in for a minute. I wasn't very happy about that. Yeah, that was really I did not deduct points for that No, I mean you could I'm just saying yeah But it's a it's a fine cup of coffee

I would never come down here specifically for it But if I was in the area I would walk your trader Joe's if yeah If you do if you do find yourself over here get get a cup of coffee, spend about 10 minutes watching the kids play in piss, and then walk down this way over to the library. We have a fancy new, what's not new anymore, but we have a fancy new library, but I'm not telling you to go to the library,

although the library is awesome, but there's a little suspension bridge right there. Oh, I love that, yeah. And there are fucking photo shoots going on on that bridge 365 days a year. And it's fun just to go watch assholes try to pretend to be professional photographers for 15 minutes.

We talked about that library. We talked about doing an episode from there. But logistically, I think it's difficult. I think I tried to go there. We could rent out one of those rooms, maybe. Oh, yeah. But that's what he talked about. I think that's what he talked about.

I think I went there with a friend one time, and it was closed. So we just ended up around this area. It's cool area. It's great library, but this is a you know, Merritt coffee It's a good one. Yeah, I like this. I love this area I like being in a downtown if I lived in a lockable spot This would be an easy spot to go to this restaurant's pretty good in brick kitchen Uh-huh. I haven't eaten there in a few in a while, but it was good when I went there It's in the old power plant. Yeah. So this used to be a power plant, is that what this is?

Yeah. Yeah, this whole thing used to be the Austin power plant. Weird. See home. On the other side of this is the big old fronted power plant with like a big grass yard in front of it. Why don't we go to the power plant to vote? What's with that? You go to the power plant to vote?

Not all the one in Mueller, like the Austin Electric, whatever. It just gets to city facility. It's weird. Yeah. It's just weird to go in there. Also, it's way too nice. We had talked at one point a long time ago about potentially carving some space out here in Seaholm for Rooster Teeth.

Yeah. But it was like it was going to be super expensive. It was like super premium price. So we were like, we don't have that kind of money. But that's merit. And we'll check out other coffee spots But now it's time to get into an anarchy question. You can send us an anarchy question at animal podcast Twitter and Instagram or you go to our slash and my podcast subreddit. We do not run, but we take questions from there

But this is from Li you Ian Why you leave you lie lie you lie you Ian? Yeah, Louie Louie. Yeah, I love the show and had an anarchy question Lai-yue-ian. Lai-yue-ian. Yeah, Lui-ian. Love the show and hand in anarchy question. What are Gus and Jeff's thoughts on the feud slash superiority battle between the major cities in Texas?

Do they have any thoughts toward cities like Dallas or Houston? As someone who was born and raised in San Antonio all my life, I always saw Austin as a snooty rich city. And while my attitude towards it has definitely mellowed out over the years, I still have the lingering feeling towards it. That's mainly the pride that I have in my own hometown. I think lots of Texas views Austin that way. Yeah, that's fine. I don't give a shit about the rest of Texas. I love San Antonio. I think San Antonio is awesome. I'm not a San Antonio fan. I'm more of a Houston fan.

Really? I'm a San Antonio fan. I have become a San Antonio fan. I think it's a really cool place If I were to live anywhere outside of Austin in Texas, I probably would live in San Antonio I'm ambivalent towards Houston. They don't really have an opinion about it one way or the other I used to hate Dallas. We used to call it LA light You want to talk about snooty like Dallas is like fucking rich dickhead Texas right there But I will say the last couple years I've really softened on it and I've had a really nice time there and I've learned to enjoy it I haven't been to Dallas in a while, but I'm really I feel ambivalent

to borrow your word about Dallas, but I love Houston I don't know. I think I think I'm sick of San Antonio because growing up in Well, you were in Pied. It's like that was the only place we would go I don't know. I think I'm sick of San Antonio because growing up in small It's like that was the only place we would go to like that was the big see that was our escape And I just like I don't know I just don't I associated too much with growing up down there I'll say this a little you I think the rest of Texas hates Austin or when they think about Austin It's negatively and I think the people that live in Austin don't think about the rest of Texas

I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's I think the people that live in Austin don't think about the rest of Texas. I think that's fair. Yeah. I think that's pretty on the money. Growing up in San Diego, I always viewed Los Angeles as like, it's like a place I don't like. It was always like little brother syndrome for Los Angeles, and I think Los Angeles doesn't think of San Diego at all, and I think that's sort of what this is.

Similar kind of thing. What's funny to me is San Antonio is a bigger city than Austin. Yeah has been forever and but the airport San Antonio is so shitty like All of the routes come out of us like everyone every year length flies in and out of Austin But really not so much back in the day though before Mueller when you would have to sometimes you would drive to San Antonio to fly out Because they had better flights than we had before Berkshroom before Berkshroom. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, now with Berkshroom. It's it's totally flipped. Yeah So no like Houston just get off scott scott free, huh? I like Houston. I like Houston a lot I mean they they're big-ass cities the thing that they have that I'll give they have Museums, yeah, the museums are great. They have big shitty amenities, big shitty big city amenities.

Yeah, get them. Get them. Get them. They have big city amenities and Austin does not. They have aquariums and shit like that that we just don't have. The quarry. We have an aquarium. Yeah, yeah, we have a scam aquarium. We do have a scam aquarium. That's very true. Interesting. What about like that's all this part? Like what about like a little pass? There's nothing else in Texas. Yeah, that's okay. There's very true. Interesting. What about like that's all this part? What about like El Paso? There's nothing else in Texas.

Yeah, that's okay. That's nothing else. Dude, I'll say this about El Paso. I have a lot of friends through my wife who are from El Paso. People who are from El Paso think it is the greatest place on earth. However, they don't live there anymore. They all live in Austin. But everybody that's from El Paso really genuinely loves El Paso. It makes me almost want to go check it out. I spent a summer there when I was 14 and someone offered to take me to Mexico for a donkey show. How was it? I did not go.

You're gonna be the donkey? That's all I think about with El Paso. Man, that's a rough first experience to have with the city. It's cool to drive down the interstate, because you can literally, you know, like one side of the interstate's Mexico and the other side's America. And it's neat to see, you know? Someone tried to murder me there, too.

In El Paso? Yeah. Well, let's expand on that story. Yeah, it seemed like you led with everyone that didn't have anything, but then you're getting murdered story really something. I was at UTEP, and like right by the football field There's a Like kind of a big hill slash small mountain. Okay. You probably see it like if you ever watched like UTEP football

It's all you see it like right next to the stadium and I was up there with some friends of mine Is this when you were 14? Yeah, okay, and it was the summer Now there's nothing really to do and we were just hanging out there on the side of this mountain. And then, like I said, it was summer, so class wasn't in session. The whole campus was empty. There was nobody in the stadium. And one of the guys I was out there with was like, hey,

you think if I throw this rock, I can make it into the stadium from here? And I was like, no, there's no way you can throw a rock far to get into the stadium from here. He's like, all right. He tried to keep through the rock to see if he could make it in the stadium and like, he like, you know, winds up, lets go and right as he's letting go of the rock

a dude walks out onto the bleachers and I'm like, oh no. He throws the rock in this beautiful arc and he makes it in the stadium. And the rock comes down, hits the bleachers pretty close to this guy and the guy looks back at us and starts screaming something but it's hard to hear and the dude who threw the rock like starts screaming back and i'm like this this isn't good yeah right they start like arguing and everything no no no okay um and then the dude in the stadium like turns his back and like just keeps walking down the bleachers and then you know he walks out of the stadium there's one car in the parking lot and you can see him he. He puts his, he's got like a backpack, puts his backpack.

It's a hatchback, I think, or he opens up the trunk or the hatchback, puts his, you know, bag in, pulls out a giant machete. It starts running at the hill slash mountain. And I'm like, fuck. So we all start running down the mountain and like, he's like chasing us down through the campus which is empty. Like I said, there's nobody there so there's nobody you can ask for help.

That's a fucking horror movie. Yeah, so I think I get away and I'm like walking down this empty street, like trying to walk back, trying to get, leave campus and around the corner comes that car screeching and then like flies down the road past me and slams on the brakes and then I can hear it put in a park and the dude jumps out with that machete still in his hands starts running after me I'm like fuck so I go to like the nearest building I can't start pulling in all the doors and I find one that's open and he says like a horror movie like trying to go up and down the stairs in the building trying to like

lose him eventually I go out like the other side and I lose him somehow in the building trying to like lose him. And eventually I go out like the other side and I lose him somehow in the staircase. Is he got the machete the whole time? He's got the machete the whole time. Ah! Get back to a, get up in my friends. I would have gotten into his car and driven off. I was like, man, what a fucking nightmare. So anyway, I don't like El Paso.

Yeah, I guess so. You think that guy's still looking for you? Ha ha ha ha. Gus is like, I can't get back to El Paso, that's not safe. He's on a slow march to Austin. I just want to say, it was a mistake. I didn't throw it. It was my friend who threw it and who talked all the shit.

I was just there. I didn't do anything. God damn, that's funny. That's El Paso. Well, don't throw rocks in El Paso. There you go. Well, I think that'll do it for Anva. I don't know that we can end on something else other than that.

Yeah, that's pretty good. Again, if you want to send us questions you can at Anva Podcast, Twitter and Instagram, r slash animal podcast, is the subreddit that we do not run. Check it out. You can also go to anarchymeanything.com, check out. I'll put some pictures.

Pictures or something? I don't know. I'll put the sexy, the sexy, the sexy, palm tree there. Go listen to next week's episode there. Just go, go to the website. We got a hit counter, right? Yes, I do want to say I love that people are still

trying to fight over what person's day is. Oh, it's still going. And the other day, someone was like, it's in February. Like just totally different. Like, oh, awesome. Please keep it up. Keep the math going. I really like people who are posting and going,

hey, I tried to sign the guest book, and it says that I'm a bot, and it won't let me do it. And then they'll post the capture, and they'll be like, I entered it, it's this, and then everyone going, it's not what it is. It's not that. Yeah, you got it wrong. And then they going, it's not what it is. Yeah. You got it wrong.

And then they're like, I might be a robot. Yeah, this might be a difficult for you to understand. It's very clearly not the thing you're typing. So if you're getting an IP band on the guestbook, just know that you are a robot. And I mean, that's it. You're a robot. Beep, beep, beep, one zero zero zero one.

Don't. That is a swear word. All right. Well, that'll do it for Anna. Any parting. Beep, boop, beep. 1001. Don't. That used a swear word. All right, well, that'll do it for Anma. Any parting words for... Oh, look at that little corgi. Any parting words for the folks at home? Stay away from El Paso. Don't roll around in grass.

Fake grass. Yeah. All grass. Bye.