ANMA - RTX Supplemental with Geoff & Eric Part 2

Episode Date: September 18, 2023

Good morning, Campers! It's RTX, or at least it was during this recording, so Geoff and Eric find some space on the show floor to record a quick check in like 8 weeks ago. Time Travel with the team and enjoy a look forward back in time. Sponsored by BetterHelp http://betterhelp.com/anma , Fum http://tryfum.com/ANMA , and Shady Rays http://shadyrays.com and use code ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Jeff, in eight weeks, how do you feel like you've grown? Are you still mad at yourself for how much you're fucking up on a f***ing roll? Um, but I'm gonna worry you in your cresting and I'm, I've, I've already come out. I'm gonna guess. Okay. I've already come out of my, my miserable stupor. You have, I agree, but are you back in? I'm, I'm past the up.

Okay. Now I'm, I'm coming down again. But I'm not going down down. I'm gonna, I'm gonna level, I'm, but are you back in? I'm past the up. Okay, now I'm coming down again. But I'm not going down down. I'm gonna level up and hit my plateau and I'll be at that plateau for a few months before I then have another roller coaster. Well, we're eight weeks in the future. I think I did throw behind us.

I think I did be medicated in some way, but I kind of don't want to. Are you not? No, I've never taken a smile when you said that too. I've never taken a pill outside of like, Thailand all my life. Like an altering that I've never taken a smile when you said that, I've never taken a pill outside of like, Tyler all my life, like a altering, and I've never, really? When I was a kid, I had to go to the doctor a lot

because I would hurt myself a lot, but also I was always getting in trouble for acting up and being like, ramblinxious and stuff. And every doctor would tell my mom, she's got ADD, or ADHD, or ADHD. I really need to medicate him. My mom would go, I don't believe that. I don't know what that is. I don't believe in that. He's fine. He just needs to run more. And so I would just, what? Yeah. So I

, I started you run more? Yeah, they would make me. So in the third grade, second, third, fourth grade, I would, I would finish my work early. Yeah. And then I would bug other people, and that was where the problem started. Oh, that makes sense, yeah. That's where the problem started. So what they would do is when I would finish my work,

I was allowed by all the teachers to go out and run the track. And so I would run the track until I wore myself out, and then I'd come back in the class. You be running around dog style? Yeah. You would just be like, let them off the leash, let them go. I was just like, wow.

You want to burn off some calories, burn off some energy, and then come back in and I'd be okay. That was my ADHD medicine. You don't have that anymore. Now, it's how my wife explains, she's like, I tell her, I definitely have ADHD. Like, there's no way I don't. It just isn't like what you would think of it classically,

I think, where it's like, it's a joke on the friends, whatever, it's all that. It's that I have a podcast going while I play a video game and watch a video on a laptop, and it's taking it in all at once because if I'm not slammed with media, what am I doing? Oh, I'm only taking in one thing at a time, grow up. I have that classic ADD problem where I'll start a project,

I don't have like 30% through it, and then I'll get distracted, and I'll go, oh, I gotta go clean that, and then I'll work on that for a while, and then I'll go work on another project, and then I can't remember where the first project what even was or why I was doing it, and I have to throw it away.

My wife's like, I know that when you're starting a project, like you're doing some thing around the house or whatever, she's like, I know that you're gonna do it yourself but I know there's gonna be one point where you need me to hold or level or move something so I'll have to be involved at some point and I go yeah yeah sorry whoops but also I think that most of that is just being a person. I agree. Yeah. I do think most people are medicated though,

that I talk to at least. This seems like. Yeah. And I think that's probably good. You gotta love a lot somehow. I mean, that's what it's for. Otherwise, you start a podcast and you go right back to back with these things. Jesus fucking Christ.

That is a mistake. Talk to talk. Talk like that. That's right. This is eight weeks ago. We've been going for we did Anima as an hour going for, we did, Anma, as an hour. We did break show, that was an hour. We did, Anma supplement a one, that's half an hour. Gonna do another half an hour right now. And then I have, we have Face Jam later.

Oh my God, that's sick. You know that thing where like, there are people that just don't want the party to end. Yeah. And you're like, we'll just keep drinking if everybody's done. Uh huh. Well, that was me.

Well, that's why it was an alcoholic. But I think it had less to do without alcohol. And I think it's just because I just don't want the stock. Like I don't even want to do this episode. We're doing. I just don't want to stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't want to stop doing the thing.

Yeah, no, I totally understand. How do you think now that we're done with RTX? We're all wrapped in roll. Can you believe how well it all went? That's what I was going to ask. How do you think it all went? I best ever is what I all wrapped in rolls. Can you believe how well it all went? That's what I was gonna ask. How do you think it all went? I best ever is what I heard. I had a great time.

A lot of people are saying this is a fun ass. I've had a fucking great RTX. Everybody was super funny. Yeah. I even wasn't that bad on the ML panel, maybe. But probably I was. I probably just came down another tick. Yep.

Don't worry again, this is eight weeks in the past where he's down on himself, but he's the funniest guy in the world right now. So, he's having five in himself. Oh, yeah. I'm high five in air walking. Remember that joke from eight weeks ago? How do you think this last season of Anvil went? I think it went well.

I think that we did more hamburgers. I was going to ask if you think we did more hamburgers. I have that we did more hand burgers. I was gonna ask if you think we did more hand burgers. I have that impression too. I think we did more hand burgers because it is summertime and that is to me classically more of a hand burger time. Where do you think you went? Huh, that's a good question. I think we probably did Hilbert's.

We've done two now, Robby's in Casino and... We did Casino and we did Pull-Holberger, okay. I think we will have done Hilbert's because Gus loves it. Gus has to do Hilbert's, yeah. It's his favorite burger spot. Do you think that he will allow us to do top notch? Here's the problem.

This is, I don't think we've talked about this on air, maybe we have, I don't think so. Gus hates top notch. He does. For a personal reason that has nothing to do with the food. He will admit that the food is fine. It's so fucking good. Uh huh. I

Got on such a top notch yep kick this last few months that I It is now I can't believe I ever thought another burger in time was back. I'm so keyed in top Just wild. You're fucking into top not one of the best one of the best in Austin. I've been in ages No, exactly, but you'll go back and you'll go oh Nick I guarantee you'll sit down and you'll go. Oh, yeah, look that. Yeah, Nick. I guarantee you'll sit down and you'll go I'm coming back tomorrow. Yeah, oh, yeah, throw the wife in the kit in the car Yeah, have a time in the car and eat a hamburger and Chill, it's great. Listen to the radio and it's awesome first Saturday night of every month is classic car night. Yep Oh, I'll probably be there. Yep. It's awesome. Third Saturday night of every month is VW night.

Whoa, also cool. It's a kid loves cars. There you go. It's a really cool spot and it's a It's cool to go there and see that it's still Around in the way that it is. Yeah, it feels very American graffiti in all the right ways. Yeah, it's very like for me It's days and confused and you go this man. I fucking love it and It's the only place that I've been to really where I ordered so efficiently and the guy complimented me on my efficient order Oh, that was where you did it. Yeah, I went and I ordered I just went jalapeno burger combo large

Root beer and he went okay, and then they brought it out and he just went, I just wanted to say that was the most efficient order, great job. And that was a highlight of my life. That's awesome. To get complimented on your ordering, that does not happen. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's great. That's a UZN UMS, actually.

Yeah, why are you uying? And let me look at, unless you're gonna start it with, yeah, talking about Paul Pino burger, large fry. I always have to do the, oh, can you hold on on a second because my wife and I need to decide stuff and then it's like well now I'm that ask why are you what decide you're in a drive-through I've been listening to old Howard Stern episodes where he bitches about his dad. Oh, yeah Like in an homage to his dad dying. Uh-huh. It's got all these great stories about how his dad was like, it's such a fucking Nazi about ordering. Uh-huh.

And then I would like yell at his mom if she wasn't sure what's wanted to like, you got the roker for dressing and then just go through and get the best. I'm so glad I never had the deal. Well, there was anything like that in my life. Suffer through anything like that. Uh, you guys are going back again. We're eight weeks in the future.

You and Emily have been listening to old Stern stuff. Yeah. A lot of old Stern every night. And how's that been? It's been great, man. The biggest problem I've encountered is that I'm just running out of shit to watch on YouTube. Yep. Yeah. Like the archives are woefully incomplete. Yeah. And so I'm kind of the I'm kind of like just, sometimes the search gets pretty difficult to find something we are. I can send you some links that have some stuff. Okay, but it's everything. It's everything.

I mean, it's, you will have to search through what you want because if you wanna hear July 3rd, 1994, where it is just the whole show with everything, I mean, it's there. It's everything, everything. It's interesting because, you know, I grew up with Howard and I listened to him,

well, I grew up with him, the channel mind show when I was a little kid and then I discovered the radio show later. But I listened to him like five days a week for, I don't know, 15 years or something until I kind of fell off. And then I've come back in to the new Howard, which is I enjoy and is off and then I've come back in to the new Howard, which is I enjoy

and is interesting and it's fine, but I'm not gonna be one of those, you know, naysayers. But it's a very different show. But then to go back and listen to that stuff that I remember from the late 90s and early 2000s and just to realize that everything I have done in my career has been a rip off of that man. Yeah, and the things that he's done.

I really appreciate that you've come to terms with that because it feels like that's face has become like, you're like, oh, I can do that. Yeah. I can do, I can do this thing that I love in a way that I love doing. And I'm so grateful that you found it because it's so fucking fun. I think it really is like such a blast to do face because to me, it is all the stuff that I love about Stern, where it is fighting about nothing, but we're not so young that we're vicious about it.

Yes. That was the issue with Howard in the 90s, is that it's fun, but fun. So cruel. So cruel in a way where it's like, I don't know if I could come into work if it was like that together all the time. I don't understand how more, like honestly, like more bad shit didn't happen.

Yep. More fights, like more damage didn't happen because they were brutal. Brutal. Really brutal. And it may just be that that was the way the world worked and we live in a softer world now so we go back and look at the lens of the past it's crazy oh dude how are you doing man so good to see you do you drop your phone yeah it's not

there's someone I got it explode no no problem you look good you got so skinny man all right sounds good take care that was eight weeks ago yeah don't forget that was eight weeks ago that was a week I Hey, we catch up. All right sounds good. Take care. That was eight weeks ago. Yeah, don't forget that was eight weeks ago. That was a week. I'm enough. We caught up. Hey, did you explode your phone? That was How hard it. Yep. I haven't seen him in so so for the audience James from couch up. Yeah, I've seen him in so so so so so so so long It's great one of my my favorite people to work with. Yep. Just one of the, just like, you meet people that are funny

and you meet people that are good at being funny on camera or on stage. And then there are people that are just naturally funny and just in a conversationally. Yeah. We'll have you laughing more than, he's one of those people. Yeah.

He's just like, he just exudes comedy. Yeah. We'll have you laughing more than he's one of those people. Yeah. He just exudes comedy. Really like him. Um, so where do you think your at with Stern right now? Are you still listening or are you getting ready? No, I'd probably off for a little while. I would think so. I can feel us hitting the end of it. But Emily was still to play me a, uh, soundboard of stuff.

That was cool. God, I was having to explain to her what some of the soundboard shit was and that was really funny. Oh, she's the best. a lot of the gerkles and stuff like oh What's going on in this clip? Yeah, I'm at least don't worry about it. Yeah, she's playing me Rani the limo driver stuff though And that's the best yeah, he's so fucking great She's really turned some kind of corner on Ronnie cuz she came into stern when like now yeah when Ronnie It's just kind of the Ronnie show and he kind of become insufferable. She didn't hear, so she's now learning all the old, all the old, right?

The reason why it's appreciating him on a different level. Ronnie and the limo saga of the limo that Howard doesn't want and everything is maybe, and then making like Robin get into this limo and like all the, oh, it's maybe the funniest that show ever was because it was Ronnie not giving a fucking inch. Yeah. He just dug the fuck in the best. And he's one of the only people that will do that to Howard too, you know, which you really got to appreciate.

I like how Sal would dig in with everyone else and then just get beat up by Howard. It is the best. It's a, it's also kind of funny, I think, to go back and listen to all this stuff with her because she'll be like, oh, okay, that's where, that's why you say that. Got it?

And that's where that's why you say that. Oh, your face is a dumb way. Uh huh. And she's just like, oh, you're just a fucking, you're just a bad Xerox copy of everything that they said years ago. Stealing all of it. Yeah.

All of it. That's fine. If imitation is a sincerest form of flattery, then I have been the most flattering person to Howard Stern of all time. But it's great. But like, no one else was doing that kind of thing and then everyone ripped it off.

And that's another thing, go back and listen to it. Here we are talking about Howard Stern on Anmo for Two-Land, but you go back and watch some of those, just a Wednesday episode from 2003. Yeah. You will never see or hear another chemistry like those people riffing off of each other. They could turn, we, I'm proud that we can sit down

for an episode of, f*** face. And we can turn a throwaway comment about Nick's name or whatever until like seven or eight minutes. Sometimes we can go 20 minutes. And that feels awesome. They'll go for two and a half hours. And it's funnier in hour two than it was in hour one. Yep.

And you're wondering how the fuck they keep it going. They're just so good. And it's that lightning in a bottle thing, right? Like, that's what you're always hoping for. Yeah. It's lightning in a bottle and sometimes you catch it, sometimes you don't. And I think there are episodes where we talk about what's the sneakiest animal and fish is brought up and that becomes half an hour of content.

And then there's other episodes where we go, what's the end of this one? I like Snoopy like I... And that's a real, that's a real, I mean, you know you're in for it. I'll never forget that episode, I think, where you go, do they wear hoodies in Canada? And I just thought, this is gonna be a rough one.

Yeah. Oh, I think that was a, that was like, that was something. Yeah, it was hard to walk back. Yeah, Oh, I think that was that was like, we got nothing. Yeah, it was what has to back to back. Yeah, so fucking funny. Um, keep waving to people. We're seeing all the people who he say hi to a lot of people here at RTX. We're just again, behind

Jackie Chan again, if you didn't listen to the first one eight weeks ago to set the stage, this is the middle of RTX day two. We are behind the, uh, Tuxedo from Jackie Chan, the Tuxedo. The Tuxedo from the Tuxedo. From the Tuxedo. From the Tuxedo.

And which is a very f*** face thing. Yeah. So you should listen to that podcast, you're listening to Anima. If you listen to Anima, you know, listen to a f*** face, very weird. I do think that's weird. Very weird. I can, yeah.

That makes no sense to me. Also, if you listen to Anima, tell a friend to listen to it, because we don makes no sense to me. Also, if you listen to Ann Mattele, friend don't listen to it, because we don't do anything to promote it. It's mostly, for me, it's a show where I can get a free cup of coffee every week and hang out with two friends. I don't think, and I'm being honest here,

I don't think Annma makes enough money to pay for the coffee that we drink. Because we don't sell shit for it really. I guess we're gonna have the coffee mug. We always have ads. We have the ads, we have the ads, but those help keep the lights on. They keep the fucking electricity bill.

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Let me tell you a story. Okay. Here's an old story. One time, ANMA. Way back before Rupert Heath, but after like drunk gamers that era. era, I was, you know, I moved to Austin from New Jersey, where I got out of the army in New Jersey, in the Eatentown New Jersey. And I was, I was doing a lot of different stuff. I was working for Vuesque, I was peeing for Vuesque, and I was touring with this punk band. And we moved here, and I really enjoyed it, and I had fun, and I was starting to make stuff with Gus. I think we'd done ugly internet at this point,

but the band, my friends catched 22, they came back into town for a tour, and I hopped on the van with them. I took a couple days off, and I just toured around Texas with them. And I had so much fun, and I had missed them so much, and they missed me, and they were like, what if you joined the band? And I was like, I don't play any instruments. You do what. What and they were like what if you come back to New Jersey and

And Pat will pat like Pat Kalpin was the league guitar set. Uh-huh They go what if Pat teaches you how to play guitar and you can play like backup guitar and Pat was like I can teach you to play guitar well enough to be in the band in like six months to a year and I was like Are you serious? What the fuck and they were like yeah, man And I was like, are you serious? What the fuck? And they were like, yeah, man. They were like, we would, I mean, you could be our tour manager or whatever,

but Kevin already does that. It would just be better if we just, well, let's just do this. Uh-huh. Let's just fucking do it. And so I came back, I was still married to my first wife, and I told her, and then I went, and I put it in my two weeks notice,

that's how the network, the tech company, I told Bernie I was quitting, and I was moving back to New Jersey and I was going to learn how to play guitar and be in that band. I've never heard this. I don't think I've ever told a story before. I don't know that I've ever told this story before. Wow.

I told Gus I was moving, everybody I was leaving. I gave him a month's notice, not two weeks notice because I needed time to wrap everything up and get out of my lease and stuff. And then like about a week after I made the decision, I realized I was making a mistake. Really? Yeah, I was like, I don't really have any passion to play guitar. I don't know that I'll be good at it. I'm tone deaf.

I don't know that like, you just want to hang out with your friends. Yeah, I really just want to hang out with my friends. And I was like, I just left New Jersey. It wasn't working for me. I came to Texas. I don't want to, things are getting a little hard here. I was having some trouble with my barriers.

I thought, this will be me running away from problems. I don't want to do that. I already left New Jersey because of a bad situation to come to Texas. I just need to stick it out here and figure out and make whatever this is. And I was like, those guys will always be there, I guess. And I was like, so I pulled my two weeks notice

that the tech company was fine with it. They were fine with it. And then that was it. And then I was all in on Austin. Wow. I don't think I've ever told that story. I've never heard that. I don't think I've ever told that story.

I don't even know. Yeah, Gus and Bernie might be only two people that I know that know that story. Holy shit. There's another world where you're just in this other band and then you didn't do this thing. There's another world where I was in that band and I probably wasn't good enough and I didn't like it

so I became a tour manager. And then I, and a band manager and I just managed major in the alternative, like pumpkin and like hardcore bands. Yeah. That's fucking crazy. That would have probably been my life. Yeah. In New Jersey.

Yeah, or I probably would have moved at some point, but New Jersey wasn't great. Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean I wasn't great I wasn't I didn't love living there. That's wild. Yeah, wow man. That's a I Can't believe that to like to almost give it all up and be like I'm gonna do this thing instead? Fuck to get offered to be in oh one of the biggest Skull punk bands in the world at the time was fucking wild do yeah, you know And it was only because we all loved each other so much it wasn't because I had Amy musical talent I mean, I just didn't think I could do it like I didn't think I'd do the do it justice

I totally get that like that was that was me with Make It 64. If it would have been like, I'd do this full time. It would have been like, great. And then it would, but looking at it, and it would have been like, cool to hang out with my friends. But I wouldn't have had any of this opportunity. Yeah.

To do this stuff and miss out on like so much stuff. To do it. And it's like, wow, man, that's crazy. I always advise people if they can go to school, go to school out of your city. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Because you learn a lot, you learn go to school out of your city. Yeah. Yeah. Because you learn a lot, you learn a lot being out of that city.

And then you can make a lot of these decisions, I think, with clear eyes. It also helps not to be so close to your safety net. Yeah. Yeah. It really, you really need to dangle your feet over that, over the, over the deep end, a little bit in your life. I was talking to, uh, now, uh now a producer cat former intern cat for face jam. And we were talking about that because she's been producing here for a little while.

And she's kind of learning what she likes about it. You know, if it's something that she wants to do or whatever. And she was saying like, look, I graduated college. And this is something I never thought I'd be doing. But it's something I really enjoy. But I'm at a point right now where I can live at home and not make a lot of money and learn this stuff, and then go and do this thing away from the safety net,

and I'm like, you're doing it in the smartest way. You're so much smarter than I ever was doing this stuff. She is so, like, she's very capable. I like Cat a lot, and she's a very good producer. So it's exciting to see new kind of like talent bubble up and everything. I think it's something else that I'm excited about. I agree with you. And I know that we are there's a lot of generational bickering and hatred back and millennials. Not so much Gen X, I think we get Gen Z a little bit. But watching my daughter go through school

and watching what she's learning compared to what I learned is so crazy, like so much more advanced, it feels like. I was, Millie has learned more about photography in, well, on her own, because she's motivated and passionate about it. But, you know, there's no discounting that. That's the biggest portion of it. But just through the program in her high school alone, she's learned more about photography

in three years than I learned in three years as a professional photographer in the army. It's fucking crazy, the level of knowledge that is available to kids at a young age. And that's very exciting. I'm watching kids get better faster than ever. But that was, I mean, again, starting around the same time with MGS64, doing their 20th also. And like, really, it was, pick up a camera, let's do some stuff, let's jam it out, let's just fuck around.

And then finding your feet with that stuff, you couldn't do that 20 years before, because film costs money. No, it was, it was, it was tapes were nothing. I mean, we, I say we, I mean, megastifty four of mischievous companies like us were the first people to ever do it in this way, because it was the first time it was readily available to the every man. Yep. You know, the average Joe. And it's been 20 years and I feel like it's kind of passe when people look at it now. It's like, well, yeah, but you can just like start a YouTube channel.

It's like right now you can. Yeah. Yeah. Also, good look. You know how much fucking white noise there is out there? That's everyone who's like, I'm going to be a streamer on Twitch. And I'm like, yeah, you and everyone. There are 7.5 billion people on Earth.

6 billion of them are on Twitch. Yeah, streaming. And it's just like what? My biggest advice for Twitch is like, what's your other thing? Yeah. You got, okay, Twitch channel, what's your podcast? What's your YouTube channel? What's your TikTok presence?

What's your social media? Like, what's the other thing that people go? And I want more of you instead of just going, I do this sometimes. I have kind of an internal struggle going on right now because I have often been very vocal about how I never want to make a career playing video games again, and how much of an albatross, it was around my neck for a long time, and how creatively restrained I felt by it. But there is a part of me that wants to stream one thing

in one particular way. I kind of wanna, I've been an Xbox guy since Rucherti started. I very quickly felt, I'll be honest, I felt indebted to Microsoft one day one, and decided I was a Homer for them, and I would be through that one. I haven't owned a Sony since.

Gavin got me that PS5. It's great footrest. It is a footrest right now, but Gavin got me that PS5. And I was looking the other day online at all of the exclusive games that I've never played. Uncharted. Fucking some other ones probably. Yeah. Yeah. They hit just keep coming uncharted last of us Like a last of us all that stuff You're not making it through the intro last of us that I probably not but you're not I mean I not that it's hard

That you seem the beginning of I mean you watch the show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah You have to play it. I can't that was Sean going nope.. Yeah, I probably, I might be all I'd make it through. But anyway, there's a part of me that kind of wants to stream me playing every PlayStation game that I never played. And just start at PS3 or wherever where I fell off and just catch up. But then I feel like I'd be a hypocrite

because I don't want to stream. They don't. I don't want to make money off of you. But I kind of, I'm not torn. I kinda want to. I mean, like, what's the goal that you just do this or that you make money off of this? Well, I don't, I wouldn't want to do anything

and not make money. Okay. All I want to do is make money. I mean, if you streamed on Twitch, people would watch. Yeah, I stream on Twitch, people would watch. You know what I mean? I don't know, I do. But then I'd be like, oh, but this is what you wanted

to get away from from achievement or something or something, you put yourself back in the situation. Yeah, but I think that it's a more controlled, like, you way of know, I did. I, but then I'd be like, oh, but this is what you wanted to get away from from achievement or something. You played yourself back in the situation. Yeah, but I think that it's a more controlled like you way of doing it rather than making it. You're not, I think that's the appeal. You're not, you don't have to hire Jack to do that with you now. He's doing other shit. Yeah, that's true.

I'd probably be free of Jack in video games. I'm just saying. That's the, it is interesting. I was, we've talked about this a little bit, but like, the further and further I get in my career, I don't know how to say this in a way that doesn't sound rude, because I'm excited to be. I'm so excited.

But I just like, the scope of what I wanna do gets smaller and smaller and more focused and requiring less and less people, and, you know, there's, yeah. We have a, we have a really tight team with face. I mean, it's people that you don't even consider for who, like, Brendan. Yeah, he's great. Brendan Carruthers, who is our content ops guy with Rister teeth. He is Benzo,

backwards to do stuff for face because he is such a big fan and he wants to help it succeed. And like, you don't consider these small parts that play into this bigger thing. Absolutely. And it's like, but we still keep it really tight. It's small. Kelly Reynolds too. It's been cute help on that. Oh, and this show too.

Absolutely. Yeah. 100%. Yep. And it's like, you just realize you were talking about it on the Anima panel, right? The price of success of like, you're big in this thing grows. And then you have these things.

This spare bedroom just gets bigger and bigger and bigger until it's a warehouse. And then eventually you lose the thing because now you have the formal process and the people who are, you know, that you have to work with and through to get something developed to move forward and everything and you want to go back because you have a lot of, I think there's a lot of nostalgia for just like, well, fuck, let's just grab a camera and do something. But that's what we just did here.

We set up behind Jackie Chan's success. I mean, it's the only way I want to work. Yeah. It really is. It's why fuckface works so well for me right now. Yeah. It's like, I just want to have an idea and then make it while it's 10 minutes old because that's

when the idea is going to be good. Yeah. Because after an hour, there's a fucking half-life to ideas, at least for me. And if you wait like a day, it starts to, you get like maybe 90% of it and then 80. And after a week, you're like, I don't know, connect with half of this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's why for so long I pitched on podcasts for such a long time because I thought, this has such an ability to just take and go. Yeah, and you know, with this, to be mobile about too, which makes it so much simpler and also just more convenient really to the idea. I can't believe how well it works honestly,

I'm, yeah, my favorite thing about it is the format at this point because it's just, it's wild, it's so unassuming, it's so easy to set up, like you're saying Nick, like we sit down at a coffee shop, at a table in front of 30 other people and you can set the entire thing up and be 15 minutes into the podcast before people turn around and even realize

that something's going on. And then nobody messes with you. Nope. Not once have we had an issue. It's been really good, it's always been really good. I don't know if we've talked about this a lot like in other podcasts or whatever, but Nick's a huge reason why we do podcasts.

Oh yeah. When I started here, and it was a thing that we wanted to try to do, and then it was just like Nick pushing and going, let's do it, let's do it. And we were like really met with like a lot of like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. And then we recorded, I don't know if we ever released them.

You remember that we did the on the spot post show, audio podcasts in the conference room in stage five? Did you know that they're tagged onto the ends of those audio versions? Yeah. So like if you listen to the audio versions of on the spot from the last couple of seasons, there's an extra 10, 15 minutes of like a post show that we recorded the next morning. And that was a Zoom recorder. That was really it.

With like, why are we doing it? What is this? Why are we doing this? Like, it was not, it was a lot of like not seeing the value in this and then keep pushing and then a lot of it while we were doing this was you becoming creative director and listening to good morning from hell. Oh, I know that wall and then going, Hey, we want to do this? I mean, yep, absolutely. Yep. Yep. Make it. Dude, talk about light bulb moments. Like it really was. I was sitting there and that brief period of time when I had an office

uh... but I still Gus and the air were bitching about their office today and I was like uh... must be nice must be fucking nice I don't have a chair to sit in in that building I have a desk in the bullpen oh yeah that's right and uh...

fucking hell man um... now I'm a bum that I don't know what I'm gonna say. What were you even talking about? Yeah, the, I mean, listening good morning from hell, and that was Nick, me and Nick laughing in the background and like having these characters and doing all this stuff, and you were just in the other room.

Well, it was so great, because I would be like, trying to work, and then it would be going on, and I'd get caught listening to them, and then it was just became theater of the mind. Yep. And it just reminded me why I loved Howard Stern and radio and I really did like Haven't like my if my thinking about Rochita vault in that room listening to Blaine and crispy so fucking funny. Yep. Yep. So

fucking clever and so off the cuff just ridiculously funny. Yeah. And it really opened, like I immediately sat down with the Achima Hunter guys and we white-borted, a bunch of ideas for podcasts. This one I did, like a celebrity gossip on and Trevor did what became Redweb and Jack did one. It was like, yeah.

Yeah, it's like, I think a lot of people don't see it, don't think about it, like with podcasts, but like, they're so fun to do this stuff, and then to be able to like have people listen is great. I think good morning from hell will forever be like an underrated podcast in like, the shirt teeth sort of annals of everything. And I don't think Blaine and Chris

are gonna get enough credit, along with Nick, like creating that, making that driving it. Because I helped them in terms of producing it, but it really, it was just scheduling, getting them in a room and going, use this energy and put it here. I really do think that there are two podcasts

that won't get enough credit historically. And good morning from Hell is the first one for sure. And the other one I think is Black Box Down. Oh yeah, so absolutely. Because it stretched us in a way that we'd never stretched before. No, and no one was willing to like, well why would we take that on? Why do that?

And it's like, Oh, it's like the first show I greenlit, when I greenlit. And it's like, try it, try it. And it was such, I love the idea. And I'm so glad that Gus, by the time this is out and everything, it's done. Back walk's down is-

Oh, it's done now. Yeah, I mean, like it's over and you can go back and listen to the whole thing. I love that he saw it through. I do too. I think it's so cool. And I love that he, I thought he did a, it's a really, I don't know, it's on Goofy,

but it's kind of a brave thing to take a show. It's hard enough to get us to hit, right? It's hard enough to get to create a production that does well enough to be considered a hit, yeah, to be a winner. And Black Box Down was a clear winner, and it required a lot of hard work, and a lot of heavy lifting to get there, and they did.

Definitely. And it is a really kind of a brave thing to do, to look at it and to be able to have a 10,000-foot view of it and say like, I'm going to end it here when it's still as good if not better than it's ever been. Before we hit a plateau or to slide, I'm going to end it here on a high note and walk away from it and be happy with it. And I, I guess it's such a fucking robot about things. Yeah, and I don't think he sees it in a human way like that. But for normal folk, that's a that's a hard thing to do. Yeah, definitely. That really is. And and it's it's also it frees them up to

do the next two podcasts that wants to do, which I'm very excited about both of them. One of them I don't I don't fucking understand what it's going to be. The trailer you sent me, the demo real trailer you sent me didn't help at all. Maybe even more confusing. Great. Awesome. Do you know that Blackwack's down only had four episodes recorded in the studio before we went remote? Oh yeah, that's true. Ever since then, it's only been maybe a couple of cents back. I didn't know that all. Everything else has been remote.

I mean, that happened a lot with Face Jam too. We started Face Jam and then we recorded, think we did one remotely like from our computers and we went we have to figure something else out And then we recorded from our cars in the parking lot I remember that is the best it was so fun and there was so much again lightning in a bottle for that stuff I mean we started God that is the perfect combination of people to yeah Michael and Jordan together. Oh, they're the fucking best It is so good. It's so good.

So fucking great. The chemistry between those kids is phenomenal. Yep. I mean, they both have tons of chemistry in general, but they just, the thing that they make together is so good. They're so different than it works so well. Not discounting y'all. Y'all are a huge part of it.

No, no, no, I just like, They totally are. That's what the show is. Put a mask on. Yeah, that's what the show is. I mean, it's great. But you know, fucking like, f*** this only started because of the pandemic.

Yeah, oh yeah. I mean, we were working for, I was just trying to make stuff from home. We were working from home. If it wouldn't have been for the pandemic, it might, I probably would have never, I didn't personally think remote podcasting was a good idea.

It was a necessary evil. Right at the time. I understood that, but I didn't think that I could make a good product that way and I had no interest in trying. And it was, it just became like the only way we could a good product that way, and I have no interest in trying. And it just became like the only way we could make something in the only way I could make something in Andrew. And so it took a shot on it.

And then I can't imagine doing it any other way now. No, no, no, no. Now it's definitely like, I think we have to be really mindful when we do like office days and stuff because it puts like, well, we're all in person, but one person's remote and it's like, well, we can't do this. And we have to, the remote is what makes it work. Yeah. I think it's great.

I think it's really good. What's our route right now? We are at, oh, 35 we can't do this. And we have to, the remote is what makes it work. Yeah, I think it's great. I think it's really good. What's our route right now? We are at, oh, 35 minutes. Wow, look at that. Look, that worked. Bluebot. Damn, well, thanks for listening. This was, this was eight weeks ago when we recorded it. So now we only have to do one.

Hey, what, we just, this is really great. Dude, look, we just set ourselves up for success. I can't believe that. We never do that. That's awesome. You can follow us on Twitter. It's a welcome future, future, Jeff and Eric. Yeah, this is different from where instead,

typically it's usually that's future them problems. That's a problem for future Jeff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of, we have this. Yeah, exactly. You follow us on Twitter and on Instagram at Animal Podcast, there will be no pictures from this one unless I find them on my phone from forever ago.

We'll just post random pictures from RTX, maybe. But that's kind of it for this first supplemental of two for our ANMA break, Jeff. Any wise words to leave people on eight weeks from now? They're going to hear this. Yeah, here's some wise words for you. Every once in a while, do something nice for future you. Figure out what that is, and do that dude or lady a solid.

Nice. Yeah. It's good. Thanks for listening. Nice. Yeah. It's good. Thanks for listening. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Did you know that you can't simply walk in a mortar?

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