ANMA - The Austin Constant

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

Good morning, Gus! We're back in person and changing it up: we're doing burgers at Casino El Camino. Join Gus & Geoff as that talk about it being too loud to record, The convention center expansion, RTX and E3, Meeting Matt, An unfunny wedding, The bar we went to the most, Where to take your parents, Housing changes, plus an ANMANFT (not for tourists.) Come on out to RTX before this convention center gets torn to the ground or whatever. It's July 7-9 no matter what Gus says. Hit http://rtxaustin.com for details. Sponsored by Aura Frames http://auraframes.com/ANMA and use code ANMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Before we get into the episode when we did last time, we need to figure out exactly what we're doing here. So we've been for a long time. Uh huh. We've been talking about doing an episode of Casino El Camino. Right. No coffee. There's a no coffee episode. No coffee. For scheduling reasons, we had to do this episode later in the day. Uh huh. And we thought, hey, why don't we just get lunch of Casino Al Camino. Right, no coffee. There's no coffee episode. No coffee. For scheduling reasons, we had to do this episode later

in the day, and we thought, hey, why don't we just get lunch at Casino and record the episode there? Well, record on the back patio. We forgot about the music. I don't know if you can hear that. It's louder on the back patio than inside. It's somehow. It's faint, but it's there.

Are there DMCA takedowns for podcasts? We're gonna, well, Nick, you let me know. This is untenable. Yeah. Usually I'm like, I'm fine with an audio. Now we gotta stop. Yes, we walk all around. We try upstairs, we try downstairs,

we try it out back, it's everywhere. We try leaving. We were gonna record, we were gonna start, get the food, eat, kind of like take us us through and like that was gonna be the episode talking casino and all this stuff It's a sheer impossibility, right? I do want to talk about casino real fast before you you call this off here Okay, we are going to leave yeah, okay, we ordered food I got the Buffalo burger, which I will not always get it's fucking awesome That is fried cherry pie, which I've never had before incredible so good

I've never had a fried hand pie that good But as you probably just heard when your foods ready they call out your name our food was ready really quick Yeah, or did it one guy Eric Eric buttered the do-do they called Eric immediately Yeah, so we ate so we finished eating as we were eating they called Christian and that awkward guy Jeff almost did a spit-take It was truly phenomenal Can you know El Camino my like one of my favorite bars in town my favorite burger in town if you're coming to RTX Definitely come here. Oh absolutely, but the problem is not

Do not record a podcast great for a podcast here. Yeah, it's not. Because here's what happened. We came back. We're here recording now. All right, good morning, Gus. Good morning, Gus. Hey Jeff. We were trying to figure out maybe we can bully the jukebox and just get like acoustic set stuff.

But then I can't, I would feel so bad turning this into Nick and being like, hey man, guess what? Because I think you have an aneurysm trying to fix it. So I think that this will probably take us out of this, and we'll go find a spot, we have some ideas. We should walk down like a little south here, I think we can find a spot. Okay, I mean, okay, are you fine with that, Jeff?

I'm all about it. Okay, let's finish. It's back. Is this a cover of Rock Lobster? Oh, it might be. Well, we'll get a sticker on it long enough to hear. Yes, it is. Rock Lobster, I think, on Gavin's draft for the fuckface draft.

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And we're back. Oh, it's a, it's, it's peaceful here. Yeah. Gus just played as the beef, the B69 toxic. It's a band on YouTube that I guess, I think it's just actually one guy, but he covers popular songs in the style of the B-52s. Definitely, definitely look it up.

It's pretty good, but yeah, his version of toxic is the best. So. I'm talking about toxic. We're great. So we're back at it. Yeah, we're back at it. We're not at home.

For the audience, it's been instantaneous. Right, I meant that the last two episodes were at home. Oh, quarantine episodes. Yes. Kind of. I mean, yeah, I mean, technically, yes. But when you say that, it makes it feel like 2021. And that's not what it was. It was kind of kind of. Okay. Not quite the same. Right. The technicality that you said, You're the one who said technically. Okay, well, last time we talked about how guess is fine. We talked about media expectations. We talked about cops.

We talked a lot about RTP and achievement hunter and I thought that was such a good episode. I thought it was such a good episode. I talked about first RTP memories and where to avoid. Coming to Austin. Well, we can kick it off by saying, I've already said this before, definitely go to Casino when you're here. And unless you're looking to record a live podcast,

the avoid recording the podcast. Yeah, yeah. We walk down the street, like two blocks to the convention center. We're outside of exhibit hall five. Why will these different world from where we were three blocks away? Yeah, hard to believe they're in the same city.

It's funny we were walking down here and Jeff kind of made a joke. He's like, hey, we should go stop over at Carmelo's. He used to be in a talent restaurant like a down the corner over here. I was like, oh my god, they're still open. Jeff's like, no, they've been closed. It was a decade easy. Yeah, at least a decade. It's been a long time since I've been there.

Used to be a fancy Italian restaurant downtown. I only went there once with you and your mom. That's the only reason. I'm on my way to that place. It was, it was supposed to be the best Italian restaurant downtown. I only went there once with you and your mom. That's the only reason. I don't like that place. It was, it was, it was supposed to be the best Italian restaurant also at the time. And now it's a parking lot. Now it is a parking lot. The building was still kind of there.

Yeah. So it was just inside of that same building? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you saw like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Do something. They're gonna turn it into a 35 story something. I do wanna point out also that the park that we were going to go to. Red or Crackle.

It's been stopped. It's been stopped. All the way around. That would have been an issue. We used that park sometimes for RTX. We'll do stuff out over there. So instead we're at our home away from home away from home. The convention center.

Yeah. There are they going to expand this? I know there's been like a lot of talk in the city about like closing it down and I was going to bring that up to you guys, but I didn't know if Animo was the right place to bring it up. Yeah, she didn't want to only place to bring it up. Um, they're like shutting down the convention center for an extended period of time. Yeah, for a couple of years. At like the end of this year or like in August or something. Really? Yeah. Like we sneak RTX into it, like just under the gun. And then they just passed a thing where they're going to like expand the fuck out of this

convention center. It's funny because I feel like there's a lot of people in Austin who are against the idea. The convention centers find they don't see the need for expansion. But if you've been here like you're in South by or you know the big events you see, like how the convention center's too small for a lot of things. Spills everywhere. Where are they going to go with it?

Like what direction can the top has been going across Trinity over here like toward Fogo is and all that stuff. Okay, well, Foga moved right? Right. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Oh, so is that going to get bulldozed? Right.

Like all of that over there. So it's going to go. That's why that's the rumor. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's going to get bulldozed? Right. Like all of that over there. It's where it's going to go. That's why that's the rumor. Yeah. Oh, okay. It's going to be a huge expansion. They're trying to keep up with the LA Convention Center. And I think Vegas is what they said.

How the fuck are we going to keep up with either of them? You're not. But that's what you say when you're trying to get people to buy into it. But aren't they doing it through like a hotel tax? I don't think they're doing it through like hour. I believe so. I believe that's correct. So we get a host trinity hotel. It's going to be a sky bridge that hour. I believe so. I believe that's correct. So, are we gonna host Trinity? Hotel, there's gonna be a sky bridge. That connects it.

Okay, so they're separating. Yeah, the street will still be there. Um, hotel tax, yeah. I think most of it will be paid through hotel tax. That's a lot of what a lot of it goes to anyway. I hope that they do more good-sized breakout rooms. That's always been my big concern with the convention center here.

It's got great exhibit halls. I love the exhibit floor here because there's no columns obstructing the floor. So it's all wide open. They got some great huge ballrooms, like ballroom, DEF up over here is awesome. But as far as like mid-size panel rooms, it's a little lacking.

I think like this panel room, 17 or 18 up over here, which is good size, but that's about it. Well, that's why we're always having panels and hiltons and hotels and shit around. So, where did you have you seen the plans for, I don't even know if any of this has been announced, but what are they going to do? Fucking fire me. The thing they're doing for RTX, we're going to have a stage on like the show floor, where we're going to be able to do like live shows. Like I think, Anima might be on the show floor. That's good. In a stage where like you can walk by and you'll be able to do like live shows. Like I think Anima might be on the show floor. That's good. In a stage where like you can walk by

and you'll be able to see us, we have like the logo up and we'll be doing a live show. I think that's fucking great. That's great, great idea. I think it's such a cool, you don't have to go and wait in line for this thing that's over here and miss out on like this other stuff. You can sort of like stumble your way into this thing.

I find it, I think it's great. I think the closing for the renovation of the convention center,, I think the timing may end up being serendipitous for us, because I think as we continue to pivot and retool RTX, I think I like the idea a lot more of it not being Conventions Center based. I like the idea of a lot more ad hoc, a lot of things that are a lot more intimate. So that's why I kind of miss that intermediate panel space like I'm talking about.

Yeah. There's plenty of big halls here, but I think, you know, I would like to see his focus on more intimate things like you're talking about like an Anima stage where people can just walk up. So I think, we'll see, I don't know what, that being said, I have no insight into what's happening with RTX next year.

Yeah, we don't put together, you don't put together RTX anymore. No, you never put together RTX. No, yeah, I don't know into what's happening with RTX. We don't put together, you don't put together RTX anymore. No, you never put together RTX. No, I don't know if it's going to be in here or what the plans are for any of that. I'm just talking out my ass here. Yeah, it's been cool to see it change. I like it after coming to so many and everything. It's been a lot of fun. Yeah, I mean, I think we're all, we've all here been going to the conventions for 20 years

now professionally. And I definitely think the era of sandwiching as many people as you can into a big show floor like Sardines is coming to an end. Yeah, I think COVID may have inadvertently still started that. Yeah, a little bit. Accelerated that quite a bit. Yeah, but it was, it accelerated to grab it,

to put it because it was still headed in that direction. I just don't think people want that experience anymore. I certainly don't, you know? And I'm not sure where it's headed, but it's definitely like, conventions are ripe for change and evolution right now. And you can tell because the model's breaking down for all over the country, all over the world really, you know?

Just like we're not having E3 anymore. Yeah, that's a lot of violence. That's crazy to me. That's what I was gonna say. I was gonna point out E3 and the changes there and how it's like, oh, it's done. And like inevitably it is because Sony does its own presentation.

And Microsoft does its own presentation and Nintendo does its own presentation and it's not once a year and it's not 1998. Like stuff changes. Pre-internet, may total sense. You know, when you're trying to hit a bunch of media publications and you know, it's hard once a year and it's not in 1998. Like stuff changes. Pre-internet, made total sense. You know, when you're trying to hit a bunch of media publications and, you know, it's hard to reach everyone all the way to now.

You said Nintendo does their directs. Like they have like a direct one so month. Yeah. They might, you know, granted they're not all huge blockbuster announcements, that you know, blow the roof off, but they just have a regular cadence of releasing that information.

It's so much more powerful and it's so much more useful having a regular cadence of releasing that information. It's so much more powerful, and it's so much more useful having a regular cadence of announcements than whole like kinking a hose. So that once a year you can explode it, you can open it up and explode it, and then everybody forgets about it in two weeks anyway, because you're competing against everybody else on King Toe, right?

And it's more controlled, right? Like if you're Sony, you don't want, it's that. You don't want the on King Toe's of everyone at the same time. So instead of doing June, you don't want, it's that. You don't want the Unkimtoza of everyone at the same time. So instead of doing June, you go, it'll do August. And Nintendo does April and Microsoft has December or whatever. Whatever. And it's like, oh, you get all your spotlight

and you control every aspect of it the whole way through. It makes total sense. And it's just times changed. That's it. I will, I will miss E3. We've, you know, we went to it many, many times, both as like attendees and also working it. Those were some super long hard days when we were working in the coverage, livestreaming

all day. But it was always fun. Like, that's like what was a little kid, that's what I always dreamed of, right? It's like I always wanted to go to E3, I always wanted to see the video game announcements. When we went for the first time, Jeff, when you and I went for the first time back in 2001, was it 2001 or 2000? It was 2001, I believe.

Yeah, like that was... That was in the height. Yeah, that was mind-boggling to me because it was like, you got to see like the Xbox before it was out, you know, we got to see the middle gear solid two trailer that was blowing everyone's minds. It's like the GameCube was there, and there's just so many cool things that I wanted to see,

and I wanted to play, and it was just like, I was so much fun. And then you get to see stuff like Starcraft Ghost. Oh yeah, yeah. I played Starcraft Ghost at the first Blizzcon. You got excited, and then the shit didn't come out. Yeah. Yeah, I went to the first Blizzcon. You got excited and then the shit didn't come out. Yeah. Yeah, I went to the first Blizzcon when they had that

and I played Starcraft Ghost there on the floor. Yeah, they had a bills running on the Xbox. And then I think that was the last time anyone ever saw it, I think. I'll tell you what was cool about that first E3 trip. Other than it was just an amazing trip. It was me and you and Bernie. And then we met Matt there.

We met, that was the first time I met Matt. I was the second time I met Matt, or first time I met Matt too. We, you know, Matt was always living in LA. We knew who he was, he was a friend of a friend, is before Rupert Heath, right? So we hadn't started making stuff together yet, but we got to spend a week

and hanging out with Matt and kind of fall in love with him. And I feel like wasn't Ajax there too, or like one of the other, or like T-Bang, or one of the other, one of the other team. One of the other team. Yeah, he was there. I just remember having a tremendous amount of fun, but the moment for me was,

I had always enjoyed my fandom, whether it was baseball or comic books, or video games. It was kind of personal, and I didn't have a lot of friends and we didn't have social media. So I wasn't like I could reach out to the internet and see how big the scene was, right?

So walking into E3 and seeing the size and the scope and the spectacle of a thing that I had been enjoying largely by myself most of my life or through like an Nintendo Power magazine was to talk about mind-boggling. Like it was kind of dis it was discombobulating because to realize like holy shit, this thing that I'm into is way bigger than I even realized,

you know, even though I'm in my 20s at this point. Now. And then there was Kentio Hall. And then there was Kentio Hall, right? And then there was Kentio Hall. Is that the little underground-y part where like, it was just like between the, yeah. Yeah, between like the halls and it's like,

that's where like guitar hero got it Starter some shit. That's where you find weird third party accessories like a chair that vibrates Guitar hero is like the hand is like to To Kintia Hall what Hanson is to South by Southwest like it got discovered there. Oh, that's a great man That's a great fucking that's what an analogy. That's so funny But yeah, I think Matt Katz was like the perennial. Yeah. Oh, you know what? HX was there. Cause I remember he broke the SpongeBob SquarePants game. Uh, who knows? I don't remember that. There was there was like a panel where the, uh,

that was a part of the station where the controller was and he slammed it down and the thing fell off and we, we had to run away. HX is one of those people. One of those people that is so naturally funny, you don't know how they don't make a career out of it. Like he was, I mean, I always felt like we were all pretty funny dudes, we were always trying to make each other laugh and one up each other. And then you and Bernie and I all started a comedy company

together. But AJAX is those people who's just effortlessly funny all the time and conversational, they would just kind of be an awe of because it's like just just like genuine comedy just rolled off that. He was such a funny guy with such an unfunny wedding. Oh my God. Oh my God. We got married at a big Catholic church.

Oh. Burnett. And the service was like three hours long. Like, like, it meant going to church to a mass service. That's like three hours long sitting in a church. And I was like, I remember sitting in his wedding. He was like, I was really like this guy

because I'm still here. He is not here, man. It was brutal. There's a lot of real stance. Power. Stand up, sit down. Stand up, sit down. Repeat after me. I'm still he is not and it was brutal a lot of real stance Stand up sit down stand up sit down repeat after me stand up sit down. It was ours. It didn't make you religious It they you know it didn't they've remodeled that church since then But it was the church has like a cross from that sonic over there on Bernat kind of like just south of What is that? Just south of Anderson? Yeah, it's much that church is much bigger now

It was big back then, but they've since remodeled it, and it's now, it's like massive. It's huge. I've not been in there in beautiful 20 years, or so 25 years, since that wedding, that's the only time I've ever been in there. But yeah, every time I drive down Bernat, and I drive past that church,

I think of A.J.X. as waiting in there. I remember I bike up there sometimes, and I got cut through that parking lot. It was definitely the unfunniest wedding I've ever been. You, the way you guys keep describing it, as instead of just a regular Catholic wedding, you keep describing it as the unfunniest wedding. You just got it, you just got it.

Dude was silly and reputations. You have so much expectations. And he was wild. Like, he was way wilder than any of us. And like, really wild. And it was just he was wild. Like, he was way wilder than any of us. Yeah. And, like, really wild. And it was just a big shock. I think for Cousin, we did not know

how religious his wife's family was. Yeah. And we didn't know what we were, we thought we were walking into like a keg or. Yeah. It was, it was definitely not. Bro's getting married. I mean, that's the, that was him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. that was pretty much enailed it. It would have been part of the course.

Oh, man. Well, we started this thing at Casino, and I was hoping to get, I don't know if we have Casino stories that you guys wanted to get to or whatever, or anything that was kind of like in that area, but it's definitely what I wanted to like try to hit on. It's great because I haven't been in Casino in years.

I came over the last time I was there. You were saying that's the first time you've been in... Since I got sober, I think. Oh, wow. I don't think I've been there in six years. I probably haven't been in the casino in years. I came over the last time I was there. You were saying that's the first time you've been in since I got sober, I think. Oh, wow. I don't think I've been there in six years.

I probably haven't been there in five or six years. You're right to put it in number. I don't know why I would have. Yeah. Hamburger. There's, there's easy or hamburger to get to and all of a sudden. Yeah. That place is largely unchanged

from when I started going there in 1999. Uh, yeah, I think they added a burger and they may have added a couple of other things to the menu. They had that cherry pie was amazing. That they had a part of the party. Well, the part that I could eat. Yeah, there were a couple of things on there on that menu that I hadn't seen other than that. It looks like that the dude cooking the burgers is a different dude than I remember from the late 90s. The bartender same dude.

Yeah. Remember us. Yeah. I was asked when the next Brewster teeth is. It was great man. I hadn't been in there and close to over almost a decade probably. Yeah. That was awesome. But it's it's such. I don't know. I think it's one of the first bars I went to and I turned 21 and it's like probably out of out of all the bars. It's the bar easily. I've been to the most. Dude, I think I might have gone with you the first time you win. I think you did when you turned 21. Yeah, I think you did. I was when I first started to getting to know you.

Yeah. And we all, I remember the group went downtown and we went, you wanted to go to Casino. Yeah. I'd never been. And I think that was probably both of, I'm like, my first time was probably your first. Yeah, it's been February 99.

Probably. I still remember very vividly. We walked in and they were playing Starship. They have TVs and they play movies. They were playing Starship troopers on the TV. The mic was excited. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, we all went up to the bar or order drinks and just hung out. It was like our default go-to spot for over a decade. Yeah, years and years and years. And I'm happy walking in. There's so much change in the city. I think that's one of the things we talk about so much.

Things getting bulldozed, business is closing, new businesses opening. That thing seems like it's been a constant. They found a formula and they have stuck with it. You know what? There's a great opportunity to then point out maybe some, because you're right. I mean, in a lot of ways this podcast is about change because it's how much Austin has changed and we've changed, but Casino is like a time capsule.

It is like walking into the same place we went to in 1999. What other places, like if somebody wanted to come visit Austin, they wanted to get that flavor. What are some of the unchanged spots you can think of? Man, that is a, that's tough. I think, you know, unchanged spots, It's gonna be at this point. They're very iconic places Obviously casino. It's gonna be for me like a lot of food places

I think of top notch which is not which is probably not changed since the 70s And if you go to top notch, you'll see me there because I'm there Like those two are the two that instantly come to top of mind for me. Texas Chili Parlor jumps to the line. Texas Chili Parlor has changed in 50 years either. I just went for the first time I loved it. That's my favorite restaurant. Awesome man.

What a great, what a cool. It's a weird location. It's kind of in the middle of nowhere. It's like 14th of Novakor. Yeah, you're like, I guess I'll step out of this office building and into the 60s. What? It's like, what is, there's nothing else around there?

I, like, take you guys a little bit, a little story. I recently tried to rent the place out for my rehearsal dinner for the wedding. And they said, no. Really? They said no because they said, we don't want to piss off the locals who come here every day. And I thought, you know what, that makes total sense to me. And I was like, I really appreciated it.

I was like, I get it, I totally respect that. That's a great reason. Yeah, we just don't want to displace the locals, the everydayers. And I was like, yeah, fucking got it. Yep, absolutely. Makes total sense. Yeah, that's a great one.

That's a great one that's unchanged. Fuck, dude, I'm really, really having trouble coming up with any others off the top of my head. Yeah, I mean, I could say some other places that have largely unchanged, but it's not, but I don't necessarily like them. Does that still count? Yeah. Stuff like Chouis and Hula Hut? Chouis has changed. They've changed their menu around.

Have they? Yeah, they've like cut their menu and they got rid of a bunch of shit. But I mean, I guess like, I'm thinking about like 508. Who the hell is this saying? Buildings still there, you probably get the same shouting, realize Chouys had cut their menu off. That's probably for the better. I mean, they had too much stuff on their menu.

Maybe Trudys. Yeah, but even Trudys is like close and we open. Like the Trudys by campus have been close for a couple of years. Renovations, I think. No, like I think they just closed. They did, like they filed bankruptcy and stuff, but then they started to open, they opened back up, and I think that specific one is getting some sort of

a renovation. Oh, okay. I know that one up north. Fire or something, but the one I order from the north. Still on the north sometimes. Like in that area, I would have also maybe said, Spider House was largely in change for a long time, but they closed.

But they're back. They're back. And it's a new place, and I went there, we actually went there with Jason. Oh. And it's a new place, and I went there, I went there with Jason. Oh. And it's great, and we should go. We should absolutely go. Oh, okay.

That's a great spot to hit up. Yeah. I can't remember what they're called, but it's a, yeah, it's like a new bar. And it's different, but not that different. They removed some of the like, chachkis and detritus. And if you went, so Spider House was a coffee shop bar that you would go inside, the inside is pretty small, like an old house. And then on the like, chachkis and detritus. And if you went, so Spider House was a coffee shop bar

that you would go inside, the inside's pretty small, like an old house. And then on the outside, there was this giant patio that was full of like rusty metal and old busted statues and like box springs that had been out for like 50 years in an artful manner. They got rid of all the tetanus stuff.

But other than that, it's pretty, it's a good thing. I don't understand. I mean, I acknowledge,. But other than that, it's pretty simple. It's the best way to say it. I don't understand, I mean, I acknowledge, there's two things I don't understand. One, I don't understand how any restaurant or food establishment stays in business. Like, just thinking about the overhead, I can't imagine how you make that work.

Two, that being said, I don't know how spider house closed. Didn't make it work. Right, it's so close to campus, they have, you know, booze, they have coffee, they had, you know, long hours. When I first started going there, they were open from 6 a.m. to 3 a.m. every day. And they were only closed for three hours. Yes.

Like, or maybe 2 a.m. But what I don't know what the law is there. But they were only closed for like four hours a day. And I remember thinking like, like this is, they've got it figured out. And then they had a full breakfast menu for a long time, and then the breakfast, like the morning hours started to slide up, and I thought,

this isn't a good sign. And then, yeah. Yeah, Epic coffee is 24 hours. I know they stopped during the pandemic, but I think they're back to 24 hours now. I think B new is too, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.

But yeah, I feel like you don't see that as much as you used to. There used to be a lot of 24 hour coffee shops. Like I would think about the places that used to be over here on the drag. Insomnia. Insomnia. Metro, was that a deal?

Metro and Insomnia were the same place. Yeah. Insomnia first then it was Metro. Slipnotics was also 24 hours, wasn't it? Yeah. I want to say it was. Yeah. So it used to be like, I felt like for a long time,

you had plenty of 24 hour coffee options, which was important to us when we worked at the call center because we had shifts that would end at midnight. So sometimes you'd be like, you get off work at midnight, like let's get some coffee and let's fucking, just stay up all night. That's why we would spend a lot of time with star seeds. Right.

Who's calling at midnight? You would be surprised. It was a 24 hour call center. Yeah, you would be surprised. People would call like that, really? I mean, it was, we would run a skeleton crew from about 11 PM until 8 AM and it would be one or two people. Yeah.

And everybody who called for tech support would be like, oh, you're open? I can't believe someone's there. Yeah. We're here because you're calling. And the night crew, like there were, there were some special people that did it. Like it requires a certain kind of person to be able to work that graveyard shift. People that I loved dearly, because I was a schedule or so I needed them badly.

But they would get like three calls a night, maybe across like eight hours. They also got paid a bonus for working the overnight shift. So there were some people who loved it. Like they said, they were night people anyway. Yeah. I was like, oh, I get paid extra to be up when I want to be up anyway.

And they would just do their schoolwork, you know, like everybody who worked at the call center was a college student. There was one dude who would do his girlfriend. Remember that? Yeah. We caught him sneaking his girlfriend in overnight shifts. Yeah, they were, we had a vault with like all of the teleco equipment. And apparently they were killing time in there. Oh, man, I feel like that's a whole can of worms

we could go down and we're gonna go to call center stuff, but it seems like we should talk about Casino and other. First off, we discussed this in between the episode recording here, we're walking over here, but we've discussed the idea of maybe branching out from coffee on occasion to do burgers, because Austin's kind of a burger city. I feel like that's lost in the barbecue and the big pizza city as well.

Big pizza city as well. So I would love to do like a few like side burger episodes. So let's rate our burgers for stuff. I got I got the Chicago burger. We're getting right into this is great. Yeah, this is a little bit of him. He's being the host. This is fantastic.

It's the afternoon. He's awake. I'm awake. I need to my I already have my bike ride and my coffee today. Am I energy drink? Any diet coke? Okay. I didn't know that.

Oh yeah. Yeah, you did. I got it for you. I was thinking of pre casino dickhead. Jesus. I don't know what I drank, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Dr. Pepper. It was some mishmash of stuff.

It's so sweet. Okay, so you got the Pittsburgher. Chicago burger. Chicago burger. I got the KC burger. Oh, you did you switch it up I got the Buffalo burger. I've only ever had the Buffalo burger at Casino I only ever get the Buffalo burger medium the only one I've never gotten is the LA burger Yeah, I would never get the LA burger. No, I've had every burger there except for LA and Buffalo LA looks gross Buffalo. I don't like Buffalo sauce

I used to Pittsburgh was my burger for a long time. I freaked out a little bit, I'll be honest with you. When we went to order it because it said the mushrooms were, they were like sauteed in like Guinness and Sherry. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I get weird when alcohol's cooking ingredients, I never know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I switched over to the Chicago burger,

which was my old, which was my other. But I gotta say, I hadn't had one in seven, eight years maybe. Tastes the same. Yeah. Yeah. So with mine, the Buffalo burger, it's a burger with buffalo sauce and blue cheese on it. It was excellent, so good.

My one criticism, which happens every now and then. This is great. I wish they cooked it for another minute. Yours was a little, I think. It was a little raw, a little. Mine was perfect. Yours looked, whatever. You showed us us and I went

Yeah, he's right One more minute one more minute, but the burger is excellent I still ate every fucking bot. There was nothing left in that basket Can we talk about how the guy was like fucking ram jamming that shit to get that stuff out? And by the time we left that line line, fucking non-exit, like, that line was super long. We went up there and ordered, and we sat down, then I think within five minutes,

he called your name, which is awesome, because usually when you go up there, at least historically, he'll take an hour and 20 minutes. And sometimes it'll be an hour and 20 minutes. And there's a sign at the window that says, like we are not a fast food establishment, all our foods cook to order be patient. He was cooking to order.

He was over the grill grilling burgers shouting over Eric asking Eric what he wanted. Eric was telling him and he was putting the stuff on the burgers on the grill and making them as Eric's ordering. It was incredible. It was incredible. It was so efficient and it was like we got that their fries. I fucking love their fries. They're like a big love so fries they were so

but they're so crispy and so fucking hate those are the perfect look at his little hidden crooked smile. I don't hate the fries I think they're good I'm happy about them because about 15 years ago they changed the fries and they were never as good as the original fries and these are a step towards the original fries I'm just glad you bought it up so I'm gonna bring it up like there was a bit of a fry redemption for me. They're on the ups fries. I'm just glad you bought it up. So I was gonna bring it up. Like, there was a bit of a fry redemption for me. There's time. They're on the upswing. They are.

I love the way. Some of them are like almost hollow and crispy all the way through. That's just the best way to eat a fry. Nine out of 10. If it had another minute on the grill, it would have been 10 out of 10. Mine was a 10. Mine's a 10.

It's like my favorite burger. And just the ambiance. It's still like, man, I don't know how to describe it. If you, maybe it's just of an era, but like it's just, it's like walking into my mid 20s. Yeah, if like if you come to RTX, like we say we're at the convention right now, Casino's like a two blocks away.

It took less than five minutes to walk here from there. If you wanna know what it was like for us, you know, in the late 90s, early 2000s, you know, especially like early RCT time, like where we would hang out and what we would do, that's the place we would go. They're playing the same music. Yeah. They're pouring the same drinks.

They're watching the exact same movies. And it hasn't, the decoration hasn't changed. It's all like this like, Aztec, like human sacrifice stuff would go like. Yeah, and facade. It looks like, it looks like like if Robert Rodriguez had a horror movie in a bar Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, yeah, oh, oh, 100% it's definitely that and then it has on the back wall like or like behind the bar Like at the top. It's like and here's some witch-leabray stuff This fucking and some lit up demons. Oh hell. Yeah, I took my parents there one time

We were like walking they came to visit the city or whatever and we were like, oh, we want to get some lunch, and we were like around it. And I'm like, well, go to this other place, we walked in, didn't really, that, whatever, yeah, didn't really look good. And I'm like, we can go to Casino. You're gonna think this is fucking weird, but I love this place, you're gonna think it's fucking, we walked in, I mean, that's like, yeah, let's do it.

Walked in, and he looked in, he went, and it seems like a place you'd like. And then they had the burger, and he went, we gotta come back. Yeah'd like. And then they had the burger and he went, we got to come back. Yeah, yeah, it's a good dad place because it's crazy. That's a great place. Yeah. Hey, everyone,

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Just keep drinking lo and stars, solving the riddle under the cap and eating hamburgers and sitting in the hottest fucking sun. Yeah, just have fun drunk is the best. And then listening to just an awesome jukebox. Yep, yep, just a phenomenal jukebox. It's such a cool spot. Like, I can't recommend it to enough if you come to Austin, like, please go. Yep. Yep. Just a phenomenal jukebox. It's such a cool spot. Like I can't I can't recommend it's enough

You come to Austin like please go. I love them. Yeah, so I can go home again apparently. Yeah You really can sometimes and the same people can still be working there. Hey, what's up? Like we walked in the last week Come some some drug guy in the bar we walked in last week. Yeah. Some drug guy in the bar. Oh, I lost the car. It's like, which actually happened as we were walking.

It's like 115. Yeah, we walked in. We almost fell off the stool. Jeff just went, what the fuck did that guy say? Oh man. It's a great, it's such a cool spot. It's such a cool, it's the worst part of this city, but such a great gem in the worst part of this city.

That sucks. That area is turned so bad. And the other thing that sucks about is if you're local trying to find a place to park. Yeah, it's a knowing. It's like we came out in the middle of the day. So we looked out, we were able to park right on six right by the place, but like at night,

forget about it trying to find any parking around here. I was thinking about that. We used to call it dirty sixth because it's on sixth-street dirty six Effectionally when we were in the 20s. It's just a statement of fact now Now it's yeah, six-street is really gone downhill And I know some of that is age and I'm looking at it through a different prism in my flight 40s as I did in my 20s But it's also really gone downhill. Yeah, it is a grimy kind of a gross place. Yeah. I wouldn't go there if it weren't for Casino.

Yeah, I never would. I can't imagine, or like, if I wanted to go catch a show at that new comedy store, but the mothership, but that'd be it. I can't imagine. Never. Have you ever been to Estre Stollies? Never been.

Yeah. Like that's another constant. It's like right next to Casino, we gotta go. Yeah, we've probably walked by that thousands of times. And people keep bringing it up to me lately and telling me how good it is. Is it? And how it's genuinely good. We got to go. I have a list. It's funny because I have a list of places and also I've never been or things I've never done. And Esther's Folly's is like

at the top of it. I've never been. And that place has been there forever. Like I had you talk about another landmark of the 70s. Yeah, maybe. Patrick Salazar took us as a like broadcast team trip thing. Really? It was fucking I wasn't like really looking forward to it. I'm like, I don't really need to see like live camp theater. Yeah. Yeah.

I fucking loved it. It was so funny and campy and like you could tell they're going like these are like our old jokes, but like we up to we put like a little spin to have like somebody, a little bit more current in the news tab to be like the punchline. And I fucking loved it. I had such a good time at Esther's follies and I did not think I would.

Well, that's a high praise. I was really surprised. We gotta go. It was, Eric doesn't like anything. I don't. I truly don't. He didn't like Carmelo's. That's why they close. Yeah.

I talked to Jessica Fassami yesterday and she went, oh, have you watched Succession? And I went, no, I don't really watch anything. She went, what are you watching? And I went, I don't watch TV. I watch TV. I watch TV on this conversation.

I'm going home and I'm staring at a wall. I'm like, no, I don't watch shows. I just don't. That was fucking great though. I really thought Estrella's fall. He's like a lot of fun. I can't wait for you guys in her. I guess I can believe you guys have never met. I mean, we're here in our early 20s. It's like that's not wasn't our vibe. Yeah, what you want to do. And then I think when it would have been our vibe, we were too busy working. And now we're old. I had parents and cousins who came in one time and we ended up taking them and they were

like falling out of their chairs left. Dude, you've been a bunch. Been twice. And it was like, it was, yeah, you know me. But it was like, it's a great take your parents to this thing. If they're pretty like, I mean, they better be pretty fucking left leaning. It's like they're not, they're not going over there being right. It's not that.

It's a lot of fun. Where was the take your parents when they came into town things for you back in the old days? Oh man, I don't know if you remember this. We, I'm sure you remember it. We took my mom to casino a few times. We did, we had a drink and contest with her there.

She beat us. You moment through a drinking phase. Where she really wanted to drink with us and she kicked our asses. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Yeah, she did. We took her downtown to six feet quite a bit back then. I mean, I don't know, beyond that.

I mean, there's like parks and stuff. I'm hesitant to say some of them just because I feel like some of them are still hidden gems, but fuck it, right? I mean, that's all point is podcast. Yeah, we're not trying to get keep on. Yeah, I think one of the biggest hidden gems in Austin that I love to take my family to, what you introduced me to Jeff is Mayfield Park, which I think people forget about or overlook very easily.

Beautiful park. It's over there. I like off of 35th, the West of Moe Park. Yeah. It's pretty small, but it's beautiful. They have like this really cool little pond with a bunch of coy and they've got like peacocks just like roaming around. And like three miles of like gentle hike trails.

And if you go around sunset, I never knew this until I went there. If you go around sunset, you'll see all the peacocks fly up into the trees to roost for the night. Then it's like it's weird to see a peacock. First of all, see it fly, see them all land in the tree and then all it wants to start screaming at the sky as the sun sets and it's like like what the hell is going on people don't know this

Because why would they but Austin is Strangely a big peacock city. Yeah, there's there's the peacocks at Mayfield. They're famous There's a restaurant used to be called green pastures. It's called almost green pastures All those some of that some of that it's still there, it's got a different name. They have peacocks that just roam that area and they actually live kind of in and around the apartment complex. I had a friend that lived over there. They kind of like are in the apartment complexes over there too.

There's a neighborhood. If you go, turn off of I-35 and you go down airport east, like you're going to go to Ristrateath, like over, you know, in Mueller. But immediately on the left, there's a couple streets you can turn into. There's a little micro neighborhood over there. It's maybe six streets. And there are like 12 peacocks that live in the neighborhood and the whole neighborhood takes care of them. And they're just walking around 24 hours a day. And yeah, we've got like a high peacock population for some reason. I didn't know about the ones over there are off the airport.

Yeah, yeah, you should go check it out sometimes. They're always around. Weird. Yeah, weird. But yeah, Mayfield was another, like, take your parents to kind of place. Maybe not in the heat of summer. I think for me it was always interspace caverns. It's just far enough out of town.

Or you go to Fredericksburg. Interspace caverns, is that the one down in New Braunfels? No, that's natural bridge. That's natural bridge, right? Interspace is the one up towards North-Torch Colleen. I could never keep them straight. I'll give you this, what we just went to,

I just went to this, my aunt and uncle, gaming it down. I never heard about this. Bracken, Bat Preserves? Oh, yeah. I never heard of that. It's so cool. 15 million bats. All pregnant. That is the thing. It's so cool. 15 million bats.

All pregnant. That is the same. Because they make such a big deal about how there's a half of the million bats under the Congress bridge. And 15, they're like this last four hours to get bats out. The bats leave and it takes four hours for all the bats to get out. They're just gonna queue. Yep.

Imagine being the nine millionth bat. And you're just going, I guess we'll just keep, they're like, it's the bat NATO. And it all starts inside the cave where they start like swarming and swirling and all the air forces them all like, yeah, out and also fly. The smell is great. It is like if corn tortillas went so rotten and then you couldn't get the smell out of your brain.

It is like, it starts coming out and it just doesn't stop. It's like, you breathe it, it's everywhere. There's a mouth to it where they're like, here's where they did the mine for the Civil War because they went down there, took all the, these beetles like, eat this backbone, turn in a powder, they mined all the powder and sent it off because it's like, like, highly explosive. So they went down and mined it. They're like, you can stand near this thing and, and some, like, check it out.

It is like, if a dog breathed hot breath on you, but like, he had just like, you can stand near this thing and, and like, check it out. It is like, if a dog breathed hot breath on you, but like, he had just like died. It is so, you taste it. Yeah. If you want, I remember when I went, someone said that if you ever wanted to dispose of a body, you throw it in there. Because of those, because of those beetles.

They'll tear them up. They'll like, they'll ignore traces of anything but. Oh, nothing. And it's like so inhospitable. Like you cannot go in there unless you had like tons of, like it's like going out of space. Like you need to be wearing a suit and you're on air supply and... There's like a hole like a throw body in.

There's a hole you could try to get a body in, but then there's an even bigger hole that the bats all come out of. So you really gotta toss the body in deep. Okay. Yeah. It's crazy. and even bigger hold the bats all come out of. So you really gotta toss the body in deep. Okay. Yeah. It's crazy. And you will see like albino bats are super rare, right?

Like one in several million. You'll see like five and one nine. You're like five or six of them. There's food you're going. There's a white one. When did you get other things? I used to go there when I would go to math camp in the summer.

They had a- Jesus Christ. They had a deal with them out there. We would stay out there because they had, I don't know if they still do it. There's a ranch, there's the Bamberger Ranch, I believe it's called. We would stay out there for the weekend

and let's hang out and go watch the bats every night. It's cool. That's really, I've never seen anything like it. I don't really care about stuff like that. And I saw that and I went, this fucking rules. Yeah. You just see, you just never see the same bat twice and then 30 of them will fly right by your head

and it stinks. I never see this. That's definitely a different bat. That's a different bat. I've never seen that one. I've never seen that one. No, I've never seen that one. But there's more bats in there than there are.

There's like 15 bats for every person in the city of Austin. Yep. Yeah, it sounds right. Wild. To a lot of bats. That's a lot of bats. It. That's, yeah, it sounds right. Wild. It's a lot of bats. It's pretty cool. But I would recommend that.

I mean, checking out that. How was it to go? Because I thought for a while they had closed it and you couldn't go anymore. They did. And now they have a membership thing. And now you can buy tickets. And it's like a whole thing. Okay.

So it's like a lot more, it's a lot smaller, I think. Yeah, because back when I went, like I remember they closed it. I thought, oh shit, like that's even more special. Yeah. I felt like it was even more lucky to have gotten to see it because I knew it was closed for a long time and they have you pull in and then you park and you walk over the thing and a docent tells you about the thing or whatever I was the youngest person there like me and my wife probably 30 years sounds like that tour I went on it it was that and I really recommend it it was

it's you know it's just south of New Braunfels. Yeah. I think it's a little west. Yeah, it is. And just getting in there, you just keep going, where the fuck am I? Yeah. You could live, it just made me realize like, oh, I can just, if I, this all fucking belled up,

I can just go live in the woods. Cause no one will find me there. Yeah. No one will ever find me. You feel this living the cave. Absolutely. 15 million bats. And no, you'll be alive. There's a lot of America to disappear into. Oh, big time. I'm looking forward to it someday. Yep. Soon soon. Um, we got to start wrapping

up because we're with, yeah, I know, well, with what we did before, we got that solid three minutes. Yeah. What we're going to be thrilled about that. We're fast. One of the, what you talk about is a lot of America to disappear into. One of the things that I've been most shocked about, Like as I've been taking lessons to be a pilot and as I've started flying, I fly over a lot of central Texas and it's shocking the number of developments being built and the number of developments that you can see that have been started to be built and then have stopped. It's like, oh, there's roads out here and I can see that the lands parceled up, but the

houses aren't being built. Like, they had asperations, or maybe they're building it to eventually build the houses years from now, to watch like the land, like you're talking about, just like being cut up and, you know, parceled out for people. Have you noticed, do you have any, do you have any current insights on the housing market in Austin? A little bit, why?

I just have noticed that all the houses that are for sale in my neighborhood have stopped selling. Do you have any current insights on the housing market in Austin? A little bit, why? I just haven't noticed that all the houses that are for sale in my neighborhood have stopped selling. Everything is staying on the market. And everything's gone down in price. Yeah. It's all tied to interest rate. I think people are trying to be creative when they can on the interest rate front to try to get the payments out. It's like, if you aren't buying in cash and you have to finance, it's really a tough spot.

The thing that's weird about it though is home construction has not, if anything has sped up. So like in my neighborhood, houses don't go for sale anymore. Or the ones that are for sale are going to be for sale forever apparently, but I'll just drive by a house. They'll be a family living in it on a Wednesday. Thursday, they'll be a gate around it. Friday, they'll be, it'll get bulldozed and then Saturday, they'll be a gate around it. Friday, it'll get bulldozed, and then Saturday,

they start building a new house. And that's going on. There's more houses for under construction of my neighborhood now than there have been at any point in the last five years. I think they're probably anticipating pent-up demand. Okay, right now, they're hoping anticipating that by the time they're done, rates come down, and there's demand back.

I think we're looking at too long of a timeframe for that. I don't think if we're gonna see, I don't know if we'll done, rates come down, and there's demand back. I think it's gonna be, I think we're looking at too long of a timeframe for that. I don't think if we're gonna see, I don't know if we'll ever see rates come down and how we saw them before, but if we do see them dip, I mean, I think the Fed's talking about softening their stance a bit, you know, you may see it stagnate or maybe come down a little bit over the next year, but I wouldn't anticipate it going back to where it was.

What are rates at right now? I think right now, rates are sitting at about, oh, I've stopped my head like 5.5, 5.75. That's pretty fucking high compared to last 30 years. And that's, I'm talking about like, the Fed prime interest rate. If you're getting a mortgage, you're not getting that rate. You're gonna add some additional points atop of that.

But yeah, it's weird because there's also people, sorry, I keep going. I have a friend, the realtor that I use when I bought my place and everything. I keep a contact with her. And she's been talking about some of the unusual things that people do to try to get their rates down. You know, of course, you're like trying to buy points at closing or trying to assume the mortgage

of the person you're buying the house from. Interesting. Which is like all these weird, like very difficult to do. Things you wouldn't normally see in a traditional housing market. But people exploring all these other alternative avenues to try to get rates down. Mm. I feel like I should double check that rate.

I just told you, because I don't want to get that wrong. Well, we're not fact. Yeah, and honestly, if this is where you're getting information for interest rates and what you're going to be doing, you should not be buying whatever you're about to buy. Yeah, we don't have good advice. Yeah, and honestly, if this is where you're getting information for interest rates and what you're gonna be doing, you should not be buying whatever you're about to buy. Yeah, we don't have good advice. Yeah, we're done. It was like very done.

We tried to record a podcast in the back of a bar. The current fed rate is 5.25. I was close. You were close, you were real close. I just thought it was really interesting, not something I'd seen before. Like I expected at some point that houses would sit on the market. Like the demand has to wane.

And clearly with inflation, nobody's buying anything right now. I just, I guess, am just equally surprised by how much construction is still happening. And not like, the house has been in a construction for eight months and they're finishing it. They're breaking new ground daily in my neighborhood. Well, I wonder also if they had the plans for that for a while.

Yeah, you know, it's like now they're finally, you know, getting around to executing on it and it's like shit, you got it, you may as well do it. Yeah. I'm glad I, I'm glad I have a house already. Or like maybe it's like, well, nobody's gonna, nobody's gonna buy this house, so we might as well just renovate it or tear it down and build our dream house here.

Yeah, yeah. So all you can do, So we rated Casino. So good. Recommended top top hamburger on Animo right now. And I'm glad it's the place we started for the burger portion of this. I'm so glad that we got to figure it out. I never thought that we'd actually be able to do it. Yeah, it's very cool.

Some some plays walking around some nice audio texture. You know, you're getting ready for RTX, you know what I mean? July 7 through 9th. 527th. No, 7 through 9th. It's 5 to 7th. No, it's not. It's 7 through 9th.? July 7 through 9th. 527th. No, 7 through 9th. It's 5 to 7th. No, it's not. It's 7 through 9th. Is it 7 through 9th?

Yeah, man. Yeah, I helped stop and say 7 through 9th. Me too. Gus is going to RTXOS 7.com. Oh, man, you scared the shit out of me. I was about to fucking roll. He's never left. No, no, no, no.

He's not a wrong guy. I don't know. That's fucking wild. RTXOS 7.com for all the real information. So you can show up on the fifth, but it won't be happening. It's not every good. If you got a question about the interest rates, you ask me, you're gonna ask me about rtxos someone else.

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Yeah, get him, Gus. Here's a question. What hobby have you spent the most money or resources on and the least time actually doing? Oh. I thought that was really good. That's a real fuck-face question. I'm like, yeah.

Yeah. The most money on, but the least amount of time. I'm sure that there's, there's a peloton that's never been used in my spare bedroom. Oh my gosh. That's one. Do you still pay the monthly fee on it? No.

I thought he was about to go monthly fee. Yeah. Then you should check out Rocket Money. Man, I'm sure like over the years there are several times where I've tried to get into like painting, like assembling and painting like those model cars. I feel like I've tried to do that a few times. You know, get by all the paints, by all the brushes and then just never do it. I've also tried to get, I tried to get into soldering before. Yeah, bought like soldering iron,

all those supplies and everything, burned myself once and then stopped, you know, like it's lots of things like that. That will do it. What hobbies do you currently do then? I guess is sort of my pivot on that. I ride my bicycle every day, 26 miles is my current one. And then I've clicked the baseball cards. That's pretty much it. We did open my baseball cards. We need

to. Well, we just got to get the show that's already that already exists and was already a huge hit. We just need to get that green left. So we continue to make the show that we've been making for. I watched it. They went, the funniest part is you guys are talking about you couldn't get a green lit and I went, yeah, it's a real laugh right? It's not as funny to us. Yeah, fucking walka, walka. I still play a lot of video games right now. I'll play a ton of Zelda tears of the kingdom,

which is a phenomenal game, unbelievable. What they do with that game and I fly planes for fun. Which is a fucking expensive model. That's something I do. I spend a lot of time on it. Hobbies, that, okay. I say mask making. I spend a lot of time on it. Hobbies that okay. Um, let's say mask making a bottom bunch of it. It's something that I do, but the amount I have to buy stuff in for a faux leathers or like four way stretch fabric and

everything, put money into it. And then I'll make a mask. And I go, I have so much more material to sell. I'm not gonna use, like, I'm not gonna use a bunch of like this white, the white was just for one and this purple, I'm not gonna use that anymore. And also the learning was learning what forway stretch fabric was and then going, this is two-way stretch fabric.

I've invested a lot of money in cooking throughout the course of the year. You know, I feel like every time I go to cook something, I get excited about it. And then I have to buy some ingredient in a bottle that I use once and then just have to throw away. It goes bad later. Yeah. I will say Jeff is a great cook if it doesn't matter how the food tastes.

You just need to look at it. Oh. What he's referencing is we're making a a face cookbook for all the recipes we've created over the last 157 episodes. And Eric came over to help me do the product photography. So I like fake made a bunch of food to take photos of it. It wasn't like fully cooked stuff.

I'm not done yet. I still got a whole bunch. I do all the sauces still. Taking pictures of food is really difficult. Yeah, I spent a little bit of today looking at the photography from last week and thinking, I wish I could redo some of this. Man, I do not.

I mean, I remember, sorry, we're going to continue a little admetalk here. I remember, like, I've always had an admiration for people who can do food photography because I acknowledge how difficult it is. And I remember we would walk down 6 feet UNI, if we'd walk down 6 feet past the Hofbrow. And they had the worst photos of steaks

in front of their store. And it's like these looked terrible, like I know the Hofbrow's good, I'm eating there. But looking at these photos outside the restaurant does not make me wanna go in there. So disgusting. It's so bad. And you know they're like 40 year old photos

that have been baked into the Texas sun. So they're all modeled and discolored, and they've got like cigarette burns on them. That place is not there. It's not? I walked by it the other night. I was downtown getting sushi, and I walked by Hofbrow, and it's boarded up,

and there's a bunch of like shit. And it says like under, either said like under renovation, or I don't remember. That would be another like landmark.. That would be another landmark. But that would be a landmark. I haven't thought about that place before you mentioned it now in probably 20 years, but I do remember seeing it and thinking, like, I wonder if it's finally gone.

Yeah, wow. Or if it'd be coming back. Okay, well that'll do it just about except we're supposed to recommend a place. I know we recommended a lot of places here, but we need to recommend one spot to go to for our ANMA NFT segment. I think that's what we named it,

and I can't for the life of me, remember why. Do you remember? Not for tourism. Was that it? Jeff, thank you so much. It has been killing me and I can't. I'm just like, I'm gonna remember. I'm not gonna listen to the episode.

I'm gonna remember for the life of me. to the episode, I'm gonna remember, for the life of me, I couldn't fuck, I'm like, need for... Non-fungible tokens? Yeah, right here. Just like what the fuck, okay. So one place that we would recommend, if you're coming to RTX, I guess, or just Anima in general,

I think we take it through RTX, but an RTX spot, a place that you'd recommend, I think it downtown could be on E6, they could, you know, is it have to be walkable for, I'd prefer it to be walkable. I don't think it has to be My goalie grills gone huh? Yeah, thanks for Don't I wish we were a video podcast just for the moment we're Gus free acting fucking believe

Woody like when the pickle fell I don't know The place has been gone for a reason to eat there all The time So Fuck there's I would say like from here. There's a lot of stuff Up and down red river. Mm-hmm. I think we spent a lot of time over there when we were Younger as well. Oh bars are gone. Oh bars are gone. Hope Ocampai is still over there. I like Hobo Campai. It's okay. Yeah. I mean, you could do a lot. Yeah, Hobo Campai is good.

Mohawk is still up over there. Yeah. It's a great empire garage or whatever empire control room is right there. I like Hobo Campai because we'll go to a wrestling show to empire and then walk across street to Hobo Campai a slice ago. It's not like the best pizza. No, it's good. You can buy from window. It's great. I mean, if you guys don't have a recommendation, I'd recommend Violet Crown, but that's just as the most straightforward. Well, if you're going to that far, there's a VIA 313 brick and mortar, be close to Violet Crown, over on E6. That's my recommendation. See, that's a good idea.

Detroit style pizza. I think the baby, the doctor is, who's food trucking in front of Violet Crown? Yeah, like everybody thinks, like don't come to, if you're gonna come to Austin, sure, maybe go to home slice, but there's so many,

we've talked about it for years, but there's like the pizza game has really stepped up in intensity and quality and volume. There's a lot of better options at this point. Yep, that's better. I would say better. I would. I would say better.

I would say better. Yeah, different, different stuff. Wow, different, a lot of stuff out there. Well, you can follow us at Anima Podcast on Instagram and on Twitter. We're back in persons. We're taking pictures. What we do, hamburgers next week. What we do, coffee next week? Probably coffee, because I don't have time to change the, so we're taking pictures. Well, we do hamburgers next week, well, we do coffee next week, probably coffee,

because I don't have time to change the schedule, but I think we do a coffee. Okay, thank God. So we'll figure that out going forward. That's the new format for the podcast. It's the exact same thing, but sometimes we eat hamburgers. Sometimes it's a hamburger.

Sometimes it's a hamburger. Are we gonna hit up McDonald's? We can. You could do coffee in a hamburger. What is the, then we could do both, that's gonna be our bridge, I've said. What is the best McDonald's in town?

The best McDonald's in town is the one over there off of Lamar and Houston. You are right. That is the best McDonald's in town. I think it's hands down. I think it's the one by the Peter Pan Mini go, Oh no, no. My favorite things have changed in my city.

The McDonald's is gone Inside I give you a little inside Ristie that we shot you were there for Eric I don't think you were a Gus, but we shot hardcore minigolf there. Yep, and Friend of Ristie Teeth chef Mike who we all loved dearly big fan of he was there and he participated in it And he was it was wonderful in the production. You can go, if you're a first member, you can go looking at right now on Rich's Teeth, but he had just not too long at that, before that point, left McDonald's to strike out on his own,

and he could not be photographed with McDonald's in the photo. And so we had to shoot around that McDonald's. It's right there. It was right there. One of these days, you're talking about going to No McDonnell. One of the, we can't, we're going to have time to cover it in this episode. One of these times, we should tell that story that we were told about Keanu Reeves going to Popeyes. Oh, okay.

All right. We'll save it. That's good. Okay. Follow us at Amma podcast, Instagram, Twitter. Hey, shout out to a guy named Adam that I met at Barrett's Coffee who came up to me and he was the coolest fan that I met because he went, hey man, big fan, I love what you do. And I know you guys keep talking about this place. Hell yeah man, awesome.

I shook my hand and left and I went best fan in this. Was that guys name? Adam, I think. Adam, I hope you're doing well. Dude, yeah, it was great. It was cool. Got a cup of coffee at Barrett's. Good time.

Any last thoughts, parting words, anything smart to leave these people with? Coming to RTX, see the hamburger. Yeah, come to RTX, the seventh to the ninth, come the fifth to the ninth if you want, they'll give you a little bit extra time to eat burgers. Shout out to the guy who loves rooster. Ah! The bar of Cassina.

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