ANMA - The Frank Episode

Episode Date: March 13, 2023

Good morning, Gus! And Frank! Gus and Geoff are at All Gimmicks Coffee this week and they're joined by long time friend Frank Kim to talk about Millions of hours of audio, Potato potaro, RT Comics, Wrapping a car around a post, Storage Units, Growing up in a border town, Gus’s strong hair, High School Frank & Gus, Frank vs Grandpa, and the Bank fight. We still haven't gotten the name right so mug coming soon maybe? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm I'm I'm I'm putting the hammer down. Okay, last time we were at Given's Park after going to Palomino coffee, we talked about the big bopper, talked about going to the hospital. Hello, baby. We talked about the big bopper. Talked about going to the hospital. Oh, baby. We talked about it, bro. We talked about panel music. So that was last episode, but now we're at all gimmicks coffee and action. It's good that you give us the, oh, good morning, Gus.

It's good that you give us those because what we talk about in an episode leaves my brain immediately and it's gone forever. Yeah, yeah. I maintain no like thematic tie to previous episodes as we go. It's like that in general with the sit down and talk podcasts. Like I'll do the receipt podcast on Monday and I'll go home and I will say, oh, how's the podcast? What'd you talk about?

And I'll just be like, I don't know. Have you ever kind of along those lines? Have you ever gone back? Because, you know, we've now been doing this. As a matter of fact, we were just discussing before the podcast started. We're almost at our 20th anniversary for Ruestri Teeth the day job. And I think it's in like two month and little less

than a month, fuck. Yeah, okay. Like 26 days or something. And through that course, we've made thousands upon thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours of content. You've recorded your entire adult life and it given it away for-

Millions of hours of audio. Given it away for free on the internet, do you ever find yourself through a happenstance on YouTube or on a podcast platform and you see an RT podcast from 2009, 13, 2013, I don't know if we were doing it in 2009, so I do. We were. Okay, 2013 are like an old RT short or an immersion

or like one of those old ads videos, or for me, it'd be like I'm gonna achieve my 100 video and watch it and go like, well, I recognize that that's me. But I have no memory of who that dude is or what we're doing, or this conversation, or that day, or that part of my life here. It happens all the time, and then as I'm watching it,

I'll think of a joke, and then I'll say the joke on camera. I have five seconds later, like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's definitely me so remarkably consistent with our dumb jokes. It's, I do the exact same thing. Speaking of dumb jokes, we have a friend here with us,

right? Yeah. We invited Frank. I do the exact same thing. Speaking of dumb jokes, we have a friend here with us. Hi. We invited Frank to be with us on the podcast. Hello, Frank. Hello. We've talked about Frank before. We've known Frank for many, many years. Frank, you've been on the podcast a bunch.

You just weren't here to hear it. It's your first time sitting on it. Hold it real close to your mouth. You know what's funny is that because I was on here as in Half Whits, you know, people know me from that and they'll message me on Twitter or sometimes Instagram be like, hey, that was really funny that thing they said about you on the podcast. I'm like, what, what?

What? What do they say? Can I just say, Frank, it's been a minute since I've seen you. Probably since the pandemic. You look great. You haven't aged a day. Thank you. I swear to God, you still look 25. It's been a minute since I've seen you probably since the pandemic you look great. You haven't aged a day Thank you. I swear to God you still like 25. It's ridiculous. Yeah bathing in virgin blood Yeah, I'm gonna say it's comparison to Gus who has aged

Three days for every day I'm so mad at him. I think there's something to be said about Frank's ordering food and drinks routine that maybe is keeping him young You're always keeping us on our toes and ordering something different. What the hell are you drinking Frank? Frank's ordering food and drinks routine that maybe is keeping him young. You're always keeping us on our toes and ordering something different. What the hell are you drinking, Frank? That is true. Okay, so it's a dirty taro coffee. What is taro? Taro is like a root vegetable.

Oh, okay. It's kind of sweet. Yeah, it's really good. It's like somehow related potatoes, I guess. Yeah. And that family or something, genus, whatever. Potato, pataro. That's really good. It's like somehow related potatoes, I guess, in that family or something, genus, whatever. Potato, pattara. That's pretty good. Yeah, thank you. That's good. But so the flavor is delicious, but I'm a little disappointed

because in the pictures that people have posted for this place, this drink is purple, and this drink is not purple. It's like a muddy brown. We'll fix it in post. It's good. If you look real'll fix it in post. It's got it. If you look real hard, right? We're like the boom meets the coffee. There is a purple hue. To be fair, our guys have it a day. Dude, so we're at, we're at this place called all gimmicks coffee. It's rules inside. It's inside of a fair weather cider co, which is right across from Q2 stadium,

where I park when I go to the AustinFC games. This guy just said like we've been open for five months. Me and my co owner just wanted to like try coffee because we're both coffee fans. It's like it's working so far. Cool. He tried to get a lot of art. He's fucking flying. Yeah. He's like, he's like usually I can do way better than this man.

It's like, oh, you just been around this all day. A lot of coffee. It's got one of my favorite things in a bar slash coffee shop, which is when they just project an old movie on the wall with no audio, and you can sit there for five minutes try to figure out what the fuck it is. Yeah. Yeah.

What did we determine it was? I think it's a Twilight movie. Twilight's on the movie. Twilight's on the movie, yeah. Oh shit, I love that. You want to go watch it? Yeah. It's just podcast.

Just try to be the one that's all over it. See you later. You wanna go watch it? Yeah. It's just podcast. Just trying to be the side of this whole. See you later. A little kid just wasted his family a lot. So, metrics a lot busier here than I remember it being. This, this, this, this, this is a, a business experience. It's all a lot of audio texture. There's a train in the background in a bit of cars.

This is a great, great podcast material. So, yeah, like we said, we know Frank forever and I wanted to have Frank on, I'm gonna get do a quick plug and get it done so I don't forget. Frank is a jack of all trades and one of the many things Frank does is he wrote a comic that's out now called the West Moon Chronicles and it's like a three episode run or three issue run. It is. I remember, yeah three episode run or three issue run. It is. I remember, yeah. I got the first issue here.

It's on Scout Comics. It is Scout Comics. Good as fuck, too. Thank you. I won the creative lottery and I got paired up with this art team from Spain, the artist, colorist and the letter are all from Spain. Barcelona, I think, for two of them. But they're amazing.

I mean, as you can see, when you look through the art, I didn't for two of them. But they're amazing. I mean, as you can see, when you look through the art, I didn't draw any of that. It would look very different if I had. But yeah, it was incredible. My editor is a long time comic book writer and just been in the industry for a long time. And so after you read my script, he was like, I know exactly who needs to draw this for you.

And I had no idea, this is my first foray in comics. And so yeah, I was like, I trust your judgment, go for it, and he hooked me up with these folks. And it was like, they could just, I mean, obviously I had a script and they were going off of my script and all that, but it still felt like sometimes they were just reading my mind. And like the opening panel is something I've seen

in my head for five years now and he just captured it. And yeah, it's been awesome. That's great, that's wild, dude. Congratulations. So now you're a fucking published comic book author. Yeah. That is something I'm pretty sure Gus and I

will never be able to say. That's not gonna happen. We had comics for a while. Oh, RT Comics, I guess. I don't know. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's not gonna happen. We had comics for a while. Oh, our T-comics, so I guess. I don't know how to read them anyway. Yeah, but that's, that's real. That's it. No offense to.

No offense to. They were fantastic. So I was, I've been thinking about, so this past weekend, I was trying to like, you know, I knew that we were gonna have you on the podcast, Frank. So I was trying to like get back into the mindset of the late 90s, early 2000s.

Frank and I used to live together for a while and I was trying to like put myself back there so I was like, listen, I need to a lot of dismemberment plan and like, he's gonna use to love back then. And I started thinking about the Metropolis, which was an apartment complex down in South Austin where Frank and I lived for a while.

And it made me think of a story involving Jeff and I at the Metropolis. I don't think we've ever told on this podcast. One time, the Metropolis, it's a weird apartment complex. It's like, it was a really rundown city apartment complex that they then painted into weird colors and they tried to sell it as like being artistic and kitschy. It was, it was the first, it was like the opening salvo

of like hipsterism before it was a defined thing as it was kind of starting to happen. It was like the first moment, I would say in Austin in the 90s where they took like kind of a ramshackle place and tried to hip it up and turn it into this like scene. And they did too. Like it was a popular place to be.

And I really wanted to live there because they had like high speed, wired internet in every unit. Here's the shittiest phone company. The shittiest data company ever that managed all that. We talked about that before how we could hear our neighbor selling drugs on the phone. How long did you guys live there together?

I really lived there like a year. We had a lot into that year. But I remember the whole complex was gated and You have to know the code You know the code to get in Jeff already knows this story I think I know the story to you now. So yeah, there was like the main gate was off a pleasant valley Yes, and I remember one time Jeff and I were going, I don't know what we were doing, we were going to play video games or something. And we were coming from lunch,

didn't we? We were gonna play puzzle fighter. We were on our lunch break from the call center, we're gonna play video games, and we pulled up to the gate, and there was another car in front of us. And the, so we were just waiting, and we were just sitting in my car, I was driving,

and we were just kind of talking to each other. And then after while we realized this car still hasn't, the gate hasn't opened for them, they still haven't gone in. And the dude's like got his arm out and he's like trying different codes or whatever, and it's not working. And I guess he decides to give up and he decides to like bust a ui around the car box by the gate. But it's really tight. Instead of asking us to back up, which he could have done, or just asked you to back up.

We could also have gone out and opened the gate for him, but we were in that conversation. We were not paying attention. And so he starts trying to do this U-turn and to protect the car box, there's those like immovable cement posts around it. Yeah. And the dude tries to bust that U-E

and just wraps his car around those cement posts. Like in slow motion. Yeah, it's not even going fast. It's like one mile an hour down the entire left side of his car and then backs up does it again and then goes forward and does it again. It's like one of those moves where like every, every move he makes makes it worse. Yeah. It's just like getting worse and worse

I mean at that point we start paying attention because it's so loud and then he rolls down the window Very angrily and just shout said us can you just open the fucking gate? Gus is Gus is done. It is not an overstatement to say that he destroyed the entire driver's side of his car from bumper to bumper. Yeah, it was just it was just destroyed like all bent and scra great and scraped I Don't know that you would have been able to open that driver's side door again like it was so fucked up Getting worse and got tonight. We're just laughing in a

Scar putting laugh. Oh my God. It just slipped out of the door. Oh man. I remember coming home that day and you guys were still laughing about it. Frank, it's been 25 years and we're still laughing. It was still laughing. I can see it was yesterday. Oh my God.

The entire car was dead. Oh, he's yesterday. Oh, he's yesterday. Oh, he's yesterday. Oh, he's yesterday. Oh, he's yesterday. Oh, man. It's a tire car was dead. Oh, oh bunch of, I was cleaning up my closet, you know, trying to spring clean, trying to be a knotted scumbag. Tiss the season. And so I had a bunch of, like, I donate all the old, like, Achievement Hunter or Rochete's shit they give me,

but any of the, like, the specific Jeff merchandise I hold on to, because I figure nobody else is gonna maintain a record of this, and it's me, so I'm not as well. And so I like, when I get too many of those, I just throw them in a trash bag and I just take them, I dump them in the storage unit that you hate that I have, but I have,

and you're just gonna have to continue to live with the fact that I need a storage unit. Brief pause. Do you have a storage unit, Frank? I do. I wanna get in that in a minute, okay, sorry. He does not like storage units. And so I went to the storage unit,

which I've been to a million times, and I just follow a car in. And the storage unit's gated on both sides, like a left side and the right side. There's left sides of gate in, the right side's only gate out, but you don't even go over that side. You just, you just gate in and gate out on the left side.

Okay. So I go in and then I, a park, and I get out and I grab all the bags of shit that I'm taking in, and I walk up to the the code and I go to punch it in and I realize I have forgotten the code that I have entered in one million times and I'm like fuck I can't get in the building and I'm like well I'll text Emily but text in Emily is dicey because Emily is I don't know if you ever met my fiancee I have not we'll have to fix that she owns a hair salon and so she's a stylist.

And so when she's a work, she's like cutting somebody's hair for two hours at a time sometimes. So there's no way to get in touch with her. So I text her thinking it's probably futile. And I'm like, well, I guess I just go home and do this later. But you need a code to get out of the building. Really? Yeah, you need a code to get out of the parking lot.

So I can't leave. I'm just fucking physically trapped and so I sat there for almost a half an hour Before she eventually gives me the code and then I'm like, oh fuck finally so I go back So I go in and so I go in and then the elevator's broken and So I have to go across the building. There's like a door you eat you need a code to go like to get into the Into the elevator room and then to go into the first floor. You need another code to go, like, to get into the elevator room, and then to go into the first floor, you need another code, right? And there's a code per floor.

I'm in a higher floor. And so there are three. Okay, I'm on the third floor. Trying to dox my storage unit. No, no, no, no, no. That's a higher floor. I was pictured like a fucking skyscraper. No, no, no.

I'm on the third floor. So I go into the elevator room, and the elevator's broken. They're like, sorry, I use the other elevator, and they on the third floor. So I go into the elevator room and the elevator's broken. They're like, sorry, I use the other elevator and they have that door open. So I go in and I have to go across the whole place to the other elevator, go up, do my business, come back down, try to go back through the building

and that door is now the other elevator door shut. I can't get back into the building. So I have to walk all the way around the entire fucking building with the stuff that I grabbed from the storage unit to get into my car to leave. I was at the storage unit for almost an hour to just drop off some t-shirts because I forgot four numbers.

You wanna see what your code is right now on the podcast that way we haven't reposted already, say, how big is your storage unit, Frank? Oh, sorry, are you still going? No, are you still going? I thought that was it. Is there more to your dipshit story or what's up? Dipshit, dipshit, dipshit out.

How big of a story do you have, Frank? So I actually have two now. I have a five by 10 and a 10 by 10. Okay, but wait, all right, I don't know. What? Okay, here's why, here's why. I have a very good reason. I'm dying to do this.

You don't have to justify anything that's not the fuck, first of all. Here's why, here's why, because it's, because it's a goddamn free country and it's America. That's why he can have 50 storage units if he wants to. That's right. Freedom. Bindayhul.

No, I'll say. Oh, I'm just super Korean. I am totally Korean. Although I do feel like an honorary Mexican sometimes around Gus and our mutual friend Rubin. Well, you also grew up in a border town. And I grew up in a border town, which is how I met them. But here's why I have two stories and it's because

during, we were talking about this mentioning briefly before the podcast, but during the 2021 snowpock ellipse in Austin, my house got flooded. It was one of the ones that got flooded and lost power and all this crazy stuff happened. There was a whole crazy thing with my roommates too. Long story short is that I had to move out of my place very quickly and I was broke. I'm still broke. Where I live right now is only through the

largest of a friend of mine. I'm living rent free right now because I can't afford to live anywhere else. But I can afford $2.00 vocabulary. Largest, wow. Love it. Deserve credit. This guy's a writer. Yeah, he is.

So yeah, I can only afford two storage units right now and I have all this stuff that I've accumulated from 16 years of living at that house that you guys have been over many times. And so, yeah, I had to put it somewhere. Why, too. Why not just one bigger one? Because, okay, so... Here, well, there's a whole thing. So, life's always a whole thing. There's a... Right after this no apocalypse, I was able to move some of my stuff to a different house

of a different friend and I was there for a little while and so at that time I only needed the 10 by 10 and I thought that was plenty of room and then that other place, I had to move out of that other place but I still was too broke to afford an apartment or whatever so then I had to get a 5 by 10 space and that's when I shoved everything in there. So that's where things are now. Are they at the same storage complex or are they at different places? The complex. Yeah, same complex, but like kind of like to almost diametrically opposed inside that complex.

So it'd be like walking from one broken elevator to the other. Exactly. It's very annoying. Yeah. So you can sympathize. I can. Yeah. And I don't have to punch in a code every single time. But I do have to like that. My that place I'm using, they'll let me out if I if my motorcycle sets off the weight sensor. But to do the to do the weight sensor, I have to like gun my engine and then come to a screeching stop right before the gate.

Otherwise that sensor doesn't detect my bike and it won't open. So it's always like playing chicken with the gate to open it. One day you're I hope you have good breaks. I do now. I do now. I got my breaks replaced like three months ago. So after the last gate incident. Jesus. Are those good reasons to have a storage unit? Frank's reasons make a lot more sense than Jeff's reasons. I'll let it slide with Frank. Yeah, you're okay, you're absolved. Okay.

What the fuck was I supposed to do with all the stuff? Too much stuff. Yeah, so Frank and I grew up out on the border. You live there for like four or five years? Yeah. All a high school. Yeah. And yeah, I've talked every now and then a little bit about growing up in a border town and how strange it is.

Like it was a pretty small town. I think people from small towns don't say it was a small town, but it's like a pretty internet. That was like you were in the middle of nowhere. You know the closest big city was San Antonio. That was like two and a half hours away. You may as well have been on the fucking moon in 1994.

How far were you? Brownsville, where you guys? Oh far. Oh yeah. It's been like seven or eight hours away. Yeah. Okay, do you see this? A bunch of Americans just got kidnapped in the Battle Morris.

Oh. They're on damn. John a day trip from Brownsville. It's happened over the weekend. Eight Americans just got like picked up and thrown into Vans. I did not hear that. Wist away.

It was on the news when I was driving over. Oh, damn. They're a really different step for this podcast, man. That, you know, but that's the thing about growing up on the border in the 90s, early 90s at that too, is that it wasn't that dangerous at the time. Yeah. Like it was before those cartel wars and everything.

Yeah, we would cross over sometimes on foot and like just go to Mexico and the thing to do there was, you go drinking if you're a high school kid because there's no legal drinking age really. Nothing makes me feel older than telling people, yeah, we used to walk across the international bridge with no passport and it was a quarter to cross into Mexico

and it was a dime to cross back in the United States. It was like, you just had to have a couple of coins in your pocket and be able to say you were an American citizen. Exactly. And that was it. Yeah, don't mention that your dad's Gustavo so much senior. Junior. Junior, sorry.

That's wild how different it is. That went the last time you were back in Mexico, Frank. In Mexico? Yeah. It was 2009, I think. And like Central Mexico, I went with some friends on a road trip to Monterey and don't over the Thanksgiving holiday because we were all like orphans.

So, you know, we didn't have to do that with our families. So yeah, we went and partied in Monterey, which was awesome because it was me and two other Asian guys. And we were like rock stars, just because we were Asian. Like, we rolled up into these nightclubs in downtown Monterey and we were the only Asian people, probably that people had ever seen in person. And so they were buying us drinks, and I don't drink,

of course, I would just give them away. But like, my friends were getting drunk, and then, I mean, it was very flattering, but like, you know, females would walk up to us and just start chatting us up in Spanish And I knew even less Spanish than that I do now and so I would just be like yes, yes, anything whatever you say sure see Yeah, it's funny. You say that because Monterey has a huge key a factory now. I wonder if they thought you were like Korean executive City for a potential factory. I went there for a friend's wedding a few years ago, the Monterey, and I was there with my wife,

who's Korean American as well. And we were shopping like in a mall, and my wife was looking around at a store, and I was translating for her between the shopkeeper and her, like telling her between the shopkeeper and her telling her what the shopkeeper was saying and just being a go-between. And then after a few minutes of this,

the shopkeeper looks at me and in Spanish tells me, you Spanish is really good for a Korean. I just paused for a second, I was like, oh thank you, okay. You didn't tell me? That's it, this is gonna be a long story. So Gus has a history of being mistaken for Korean and or just generally Asian, East Asian,

which is hilarious to me because if anyone has hung out with a lot of East Asians, they know that East Asians cannot grow facial hair like Gus can. So that right there should be a dead giveaway. Yeah, that's a disqualifier. Yeah, we've told lots of funny stories about people miss identifying Gus in the past. When I first met him, I thought he was like

the skinniest Samoan dude. Samoan. I really did. Wow. You think his name was Gus Tuyasa Soapo? Yeah. It was just Gus and he was wearing a Hawaiian shirt, I think, and he had a shape head.

He was just like tall skinny kid, I don't know. Yeah, I could see that. I used to shave my head all the time just because I didn't want to. I was so, I don't know, I was so lazy, I didn't want like the hassle of dealing with hair. It's easier just to shave it than to like, be like, if you're gonna tell if I didn't shower today. I had, he had such strong hair that we used to,

when we worked with a tech sport company, we would drop screws on the top of his head and he wouldn't know. And they would just flood it on the top of his head. It was like a computer PC case screw. Yeah. We would see like, he'd stand up and like four screws would drop.

It's thinned out a bit since those days. I think I'd be able to tell now if you dropped a case screw in my hair. I think I remember when the first time you shaved your head in Eagle Pass, because my younger brother Richard. Yes. Three days. That's what they were all thinking, right? You know what, the Eagle Pass might be the worst place for that though because so many

people own guns there. It would be crazy. But remember we had a school shooting. Oh, that's right. Yeah. A girl showed up with a gun, tried to shoot another girl. They got into a fight, the gun went off, and like she shot the ceiling. And I think the only punishment was they took her gun away. I don't know if there was anything ridiculous. I don't know if there was much more punishment than that.

We went to school in the old West, basically. That's the 90s. I think I might have mentioned this in the podcast, so I won't go deep into it. But there was a school shooting when I was in the 11th grade. A dude brought a school, brought a gun to school, and shot a kid in the hallway in the thigh and he got suspended.

Wow. He didn't lose, like he still went to that school a year later. Yeah. Yeah. Eagle pass. I mean, I think just the 90s in general, like, yeah, it was just weird like that. Yeah. But yeah, I think I remember when you, for one of the first times, at least, that you shaved

your head, because Richard had come over over like you were at our house or something Richard is your brother my brother yeah and can we bleep that out so that he's not I was waiting while I go no I don't care he won't care but he he was like we were I think you want that bleep for not just for the editor I don't care no you leave it in yeah leave it in leave it he knows he's my brother. Yeah. But I think we were just amazed and like he couldn't help it like reach over and start touching your scalp. Do you remember that? Yeah, remember that.

And then you started like this was like before it was a thing but you were like blissing out to the you know it was like the ASMR video kind of thing like. Yeah, you were just like, aww. I got it. I just didn't just do it. I just didn't just do it. What would you do if you had the freedom to be anyone or to go anywhere without limitations? Start your journey and experience for yourself the feeling of total freedom when you game with Alienware.

Alienware is your portal to new worlds where limits don't exist and the only rules are the ones you decide to make. Defy boundaries and start gaming now at alienware.com. Next gen gaming is built with Intel Core i9 processors. So, Frank, you are the second guest I think we've had on this podcast. Yeah.

And in the 35th episodes we've done it. And obviously one of our oldest and dearest friends, but I'm excited to have you on, not only for that, but because you know early Gus in a way that none of us do and a way that I certainly don't tell us about 30 years now. Tell us what high school Gus was like. Share some embarrassing stories about Gus being a loser and unlikable. Tell us about all those times that the world just shit on you. You just have to say tell us stories about Gus. All of that stuff is implied. Right, yeah.

Well, we were part of the Losers Club because I remember, and by we, I also include our friend Rubin. He had other friends too though. He did. He was actually more popular. Yeah, they need one of us. He was our friend on Wednesday.

When there's other friends at band practice. No, he wasn't BAN. Yeah, that's the thing. He was in BAN and he was popular in BAN and like, yeah. So he knew other cool kids. We were just the hangers on. But I want it kids. It's a big thing over there.

It's like for balls big in South Texas, the band to come, anyway. Yeah. So, but I remember we were like juniors I think and we were on a we're going to Asterold and Houston back when Asterold was still in existence We went to Asterold in high school. Yes, okay. Yeah. Oh wow. You don't remember this at all Oh, man So the school they didn't they didn't rent like the big school buses to take us there They they had vans and there was a whole fleet of vans. Yeah, yes

big school buses to take us there, they had vans. And there was a whole fleet of vans there. Yeah. I do remember this stuff. Right, so we were in the parking lot and early like six in the morning, because it takes us forever to get to Houston from Eagle Pass. It's on the other side of the state.

And so they were like, all right, pick the van that you want to ride in. And so there was a group of girls that were like started walking towards one of the vans. And we decided to walk towards that van as well as me, Gus and Ruben and when the girls saw that we were heading towards that van they just turned around and walked a completely different van. Awesome. Yeah. And we had the van where South. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty pretty. What was the like taking the van with all

the teachers? I have a story about that too. I remember once, I once had been our senior year. I think by that point we were very fed up with school down there, school in general. I remember you and I were at the computer lab, we were playing video games, and it was like before school started, and first period we had English, and we were like, the bell was about to ring,

and we were like, should we go to English today? Like, I don't know, I guess we should, the bell rang, and we were late. So we started walking over to English class. And I remember we both looked in the window, and our English teacher was drawing like a triangle on the chalkboard, and we were like, nah, we don't need to notice.

It was like, turned around and left. I was like, no, we don't need to notice. We just like turned around and left. I'm like, no, we're good, I'm good. So this day, I don't know what that triangle is. When you guys were growing up, did you get any sense that Gus was gonna was meant for better, like great things, like that he would be this huge success? So that same English teacher talked shit about me. I don't know if you know this.

Oh, I do. And you completely destroyed her false argument about an English trope or theme or whatever. She told my parents that I was going to be a burnout loser and that I was going to waste all my potential in my life because I had no focus and I couldn't accomplish anything. Yeah. We didn't believe it. We did not get along. No, no, no, they've been out by accomplish anything. Yeah, we didn't believe it.

We did not get along. No, no, they've been out by my bullshit. Yeah. I felt like Gus would, okay, so I felt like Gus would become successful in life, but not doing something like this. I thought he would grow up to be a rocket scientist or like a doctor or something.

He did not have that smart. I thought I did at the time. I did not. At the time, I mean, in the context of being an eagle pass, I mean, when I met him. I thought I did at the time. I did. But at the time, you know, I mean, in the context of being an eagle pass, I mean, when I met him, I thought, oh, this guy is so smart. But actually, I also thought you were, I did recognize that you knew a lot more about pop culture

than I did, because the first time I ever came over to Gus's house, his sister was playing Bohemian Rhapsody on repeat on a record player a record player like a single and uh... and i i didn't i didn't hurt of it but i didn't know anything about the band or the song or at the time it was because uh... wanes will not come out and it was popular again and so and guss was explaining it to me and i was like oh that's cool so yeah i just kind of was like take a look at let's have a seat on the gust bus let me tell you

i remember one time you came over to my house. I had a super Nintendo, so it was around that time. I rented Super Contra, I don't remember this. Yeah. And we were playing Super Contra, in my room I had like a little 13 inch RCA TV. And we were playing Super Contra. And like you and I were playing,

and your brother was there as well. And I wasn't paying attention to what he was doing. And then at one point, your brother, like you and I really focused on the game, your brother was just like, hey, do you have any band-aids? And I was like, and without turning around, I was like, yeah, yeah,

in the hallway bathroom under the sink. And then you and I still played SuperCut, but your brother leaves the room and then comes back and his hand is like they're just blood It looks like carry like What happened to you and I used to hunt a lot back then I had a knife for Skinning deer that was really sharp and he was messing with it and he had just closed it across all of his nose on his hand and it had just sliced all of them open.

And his question was, can I have a bad day? Yeah. That's a thing about Richard though. He is extraordinarily tough. Yeah, he did not make a sound. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I know some, in my dad's side of the family, there are like some very old school Korean dudes

that went through the Korean War, the way old, my grandfather's generation suffered through the Japanese occupation, their whole lives, the young adult lives, and so they just knew suffering and like Richard inherited that. I wish I had more of that actually, but like he could just take physical money.

Like we would be inspiring in Tecwandoe class and he could just Take hits like that would make me cry and like yeah, so I'm not surprised he did that when I was in the army You know we cross trained with military from all over the world And it was well known and established that the rock army the the Republic of Korean army It was well known and established that the rock army, the Republic of Korean army, were the toughest dudes on earth. Like you did not fuck with those guys.

If you trained with them, you were lucky to get the train with them and just hold on and do your best because they are just gonna smoke you. And just be prepared. They were like the toughest dudes. I assume it's still the same, you know, this is the 90s when I was in the military, but like it was like universally accepted

that Korean soldiers are the toughest dudes on earth. Yeah, and I think now from what I've seen just on like YouTube and stuff, I've been to Korea in decades now, but it seems like not only do they still have this insane conditioning regimen, but because the diet has gotten better, they're bigger now.

So they're like European sized people now who are super tough. Have you watched that show, Physical 100? No. Frank, you would love it. It's a Korean show, I believe. And they take a hundred of the most physically fit people in Korea and I guess Japan. And there's an American dude in there who plays baseball

and stuff. Different body styles. But it's a cross-trainer, a guy who's like an ice climber, a guy who owns a car dealership, a guy who's an Olympian, a lot of Olympians, and they put them together and they just do, it's almost like Squid Game, but it's without murder, it's just physical. They have 100 people just like hang above a pit and just, and then it's like the last five that are still standing,

are still hanging, get to continue on, that kind of thing. And they just whittle it down from 100, like insanely in shape physical specimens down to like the single like most badass person. Wow. Yeah, it's an awesome show. Man, yeah, that sounds really cool. And it reminds me actually of my grandfather,

my paternal grandfather grew up with my family for most of my childhood. And he was a six feet tall. He was like insanely tall for a Korean guy. That generation especially. And he was super tough. Like he must have been in his 60s when I was really young. And I remember this incident.

I think I've told you about this. I was wondering if you're going to tell the story. This is the 80s. But we were living in Houston at the time and I don't even remember why he did this. I'm sure there was some reason for it, but we were in our backyard and he just picked up a broomstick with like those long wooden handles

and just hurls it like a javelin across the length of our backyard, which is pretty long. And you know, a broomstick handle has a rounded tip. Yeah, yeah. That thing embedded into the dirt and like stuck there, like quivering after he hurled it. And I, like, I just remember, even as a little kid, I was like, how on earth did he do that?

Like that is insane strength and coordination and balance. Like, but yeah, he would tell a story about like him and his R.O.K. army buddies would just go swimming in the Han River for hours, just swimming up and like going against the current and everything and like, yeah, he was like, that's impossible. I know, yeah, well especially now,

because you would die from chemical poisoning, probably if you slam in that, but. Didn't you fuck him up with a belt once? Yeah. Oh, man. This is elder abuse. if you slam in that but didn't you fuck him up with a belt once yeah does elder abuse uh but i learned a valuable lesson about self defense out of this world no but i i don't even i was such a terrible grandson um uh so yeah what i was like my my grandfather loved cowboy culture. So one of the first things he did when he came to Houston was he bought a pair of cowboy boots to have a big belt buckle

and like he would go riding horses around ranches and stuff even though we were living in the city. But he loved that stuff. So anyway, he would dress me up as a cowboy too when I was like all of five or six years old. And he I was dressed up as a cowboy too and I was like all of five or six years old. And he, I was dressed up as a cowboy one night, just horsing around in the house and took off my cowboy belt with the big metal buckle with the giant hook that hooks into the belt hole. And I was swinging it around like a lasso, holding it by the leather in so the buckle was swinging in these huge arcs. And my grandfather happened to walk in just as I swung it just at the perfect moment

to where the hook caught in his gums, his lower gums. And then, and then I, being the helpful little lad that I was, I decided, oh, the way to fix this is to pull. So I'm pulling, I'm basically fishing my grandfather Yeah And he's going He's yelling me and cream to stop and my dad heard from the other room and ran in and like yank the bell buckle out of my head finally and You know and unhooked him

They killed him up and he took a photo. He was this big. He was this big. Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! I will say the one positive thing, I of course got a whooping, because that's what it is.

I don't even remember, that would have been fitting. But I did learn a valuable lesson, which I later got confirmed by one of my martial arts teachers is that a belt is an awesome self-defense weapon. If someone's coming at you with another weapon, probably not necessarily a gun, but they give you a knife, a belt is one of the best things to use to defend yourself against that. Yeah, because you can swing it, you can use it to like, catch their hand and disable their weapon and all this stuff.

But as a kid, I learned that. I was like, that was, you know, after the whipping and everything, I was like, that was still kind of cool. Yeah. So, so, go ahead. I'm sure you're gonna say the same thing I was. So speaking of self-defense,

you're a pretty accomplished when it comes to like self-defense and Teclando and martial arts in general. Exactly what I was, so speaking of self-defense, you're a pretty accomplished when it comes to like self-defense and Teclando and martial arts in general. Exactly what I was gonna say. Have you killed anyone recently? Not recently, no. Yes, yes. Have you had to fight?

Have you been in a fight? And how long was it that you got to fight? The last real street fight was probably the bank fight. The bank of America. You were very south of the White House. Yeah, I don't know if you guys have told that story no no that's your story okay yeah I mean I guess I can tell that is that's that's like an early 2000s Austin story I suppose and and and and and it kind of ties into when I

guess you were living with Jeff and I went over the house at that point and you noticed it you were one the only people that noticed I had a bruise even on my face. And I'm still astonished by that because inside that house, s***, can I say that? You can't say where it was. No, never mind.

We've got that out, we've got that out. But that house, it would be like dark. I remember during the daytime, if you didn't have the lights on inside. Because we painted it black. I'm inside. Oh, that's why you're insisting. And like I remember sitting on the couch in the living room you were you weren't even on the same couch with me you were on a different

couch but still through the gloom you could see I had a bruise on my face I was like I'm still amazed at that but anyway yeah so I that was the last fight I was in a car with my friend and we were waiting in line to go through the drive-through of a bank of America so I can make a deposit. And I had to make it very quickly because I was trying to go buy a car that afternoon. And I needed exactly $200 to buy this really old

and crappy Saturn. But I needed a transportation. And I had to get to the bank and then get to the dealership before they closed. So we're sitting in line and the car in front of us is just taking forever. I don't know why they took that long. It was a simple deposit I assume. But anyway, I got so mad that I, I think I yelled at them and then I honked my friend's horn. I wasn't driving. But I actually drove over and

said, yeah, but I definitely yelled at them through the window of the passenger seat and they didn't like that. So then they very deliberately moved slowly reaching their hand out very slowly to grab the pneumatic tube and put their money in and all that and that incensed me even more. So I waited until they started pulling out of the line finally and I grabbed like a can of Pepsi or something from my friend's center console and hurled it at the car. You're a nice freak. That's awesome. I was out of control at that point in my life. But then that missed because they were too far ahead. So we pulled up to the the tube and I put my money or my check or whatever was in the tube, sent it in and started the deposit process.

And then I looked over to my right and out of the passenger window, I could see that that car that had been in front of us had to pull a UE to get to the main street, but it was like right nearby. It was like 10 yards away or something. So I looked at my friend and I said, wait right here and I grabbed a water bottle

and I hopped out of the passenger seat and ran over, like hopped over the fence and then went up to their car and luckily his passenger side was open, the window was open. So I just uncoorked the, unscrewed the bottle and poured water all over his lap and then tossed the bottle into the car and walked away. And then he didn't like that. So he got out of the car. He's like, I take exception to that.

Yeah. The Pepsi was okay. The water, not so much. So yeah, he got out of the car and charged after me. And I saw him coming. So I was like, you know, with my training. I'm like, I'm just going to side-style do an it L step and then I'll hit him, I'll counter. Well, I side step, but the grass was wet, and so I slipped and I fell.

And this is something, this is actually a teachable moment for me as a martial artist, because- It's a teachable moment for a lot of reasons. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think my fear is that you're learning the wrong lesson. You learn what you can out of any situation. But in martial arts, training in a dojo or school is great. You should definitely do that.

But you should also train in real life situations because the bank. Exactly, because you never know when there are environmental factors that can affect you. So like wet grass. So I fell and I was immediately kind of starting to panic and he was looming over me trying to get on top of me and pummel me. That's when the training kicked in as well where I was like, okay, I need to do low leg kicks and get them off of me and I did. Scurry up. Then yeah, we started circling each other and fighting.

At one point, he threw a punch, and I saw it coming. So it landed on my jaw, but it didn't knock me out. He actually was kind of weak, I guess. It wasn't that hard of a hit. But I also saw a coming so I could kind of mentally prepare. It didn't catch me off guard. And then finally, he charged me again, but this time I was able to else step away

and then hit him with a back fist to the temple and boom. He went down. And at that point, his girlfriend, who was driving the car, came out, she screamed at him about how he's violating his parole and he's gonna get sent back. Yeah. Yeah.

So she actually, like the dude was heavy, he wasn't necessarily strong, but he was like overweight. And but she managed to manhandle him up because he's punch drunk. So he can't really stand on his own legs. But she manhandles him up and like drags him back to the car and just pills away. Yeah, damn.

So do you want me to, this is a weird story to me for many reasons, Frank. The primary one being that you're normally such a laid back, easygoing person. Probably the most laid back dude, maybe. and I can't imagine you getting that upset About someone being slow at a bang Well, there's just a right set of circumstances wait. I was falling down I just wanted to see my daughter

I just wanted to see my daughter. No, I was stressed out. I needed a car. I don't remember exactly why, but there was a very good reason why I needed a car that afternoon. And then plus, just being broke is stressful. Yeah. There's that whole thing. Oh, and then my friend who's giving me the ride, he also had to leave. So if I didn't get to the dealership, he literally would

have had to like drop me off somewhere and I would have to take a cab or a bus or something. Yeah, so there was that. I think now if I was still in that situation, I would have handled it differently though. You wouldn't have slipped. Exactly. Yeah. You had better footing. You were more attention to the environment. Yes. Learn those lessons. Learn those lessons. I do think, I mean, ever since that moment though,

even when I would just go back to the smart class, like I would think about footing so much. And it really, I mean, in a weird way, didn't make me a better martial artist. So, yeah. We are getting onto close to the 50 minute mark. We should talk about all gimmicks coffee. We all had Americana's.

Except for Frank. That's right. Frank had the taro drink. It's almost purple. It's almost purple. It's purple for the single. It is a very small coffee thing inside of a cider company over by Q2 stadium

This was a cool little spot run by one dude. It's a metric in Denton. Yeah, and it's a You would never know because there's no signage that says there's coffee in here It is in fact a cider company. Yeah, they also have karaoke inside and it is there's a lot going on There's a lot happening. How would you rate your coffee? So that's what I was gonna say. You and I typically, I always get a drip. You always get a nice coffee. Yeah. You get the Americano.

What do you think of this? This is one of my favorite Americanos that we've had out of all the places we've been. This is excellent. This iced Americano right here is a 10. Wow. Yeah, this is phenomenal. This was definitely, as an Americano,

it was a good pull, it wasn't too too strong, serving a hot drink in a glass is truly insane. I burned off my fingerprints carrying this out to the table. But I do think this is them being, we started like five months ago, we just decided to do this inside of this and all of the things we own. So we'll just use the bar stuff.

So that's what this is. What did you think of your drink, Frank? I've never been purple. Frank? For not being purple. Right, for not being purple, I'm gonna deduct one point. But, and I have no context for any other dirty taro coffee drinks, but I will say this is an eight. Wow, okay, very nice. This is.

A coffee drinker? Yeah, okay. This has gotta be one of the highest reviewed. I want to, I want to come back here. I don't know if I've ever said that in another episode. I definitely think I would recommend this, if you're on the north side of Austin and you're I guess if you need to sober up after a afternoon game at Q2 come on over to fair weather, cider company and get a cup of coffee.

I gotta say speaking of coming back, Frank, we've got to have you back. Oh definitely as a guest. I feel like I barely scratched the face. Yeah, because I realized just sitting, wrapping up here, we didn't even talk about all of the times you've worked with Richard. Oh, we didn't even talk about any of that stuff. Like you have a rich history of Richard from the very first

immersion, you were talking about in the drive ever, you and Monty were the like the gangsters that beat the shit out of Gus and I would pass by. And did not, did not pull any punches that day. No, still. You learned your lesson. Still remember that. I know.

Uh-huh. Knock the hell out of me. And I, flying sidekick Gus's ribs. Oh, very cool. What else? Into the truck. What else did you do for Ruchete throughout the year? I did another immersion after that.

Right. The fighting world. Yeah. And then I was like, I was in the recording booth on your six street studio doing one of the Is set like background voices of a red versus blue character. I don't know if it ever even made into the final And then I think I did I know I did something. Oh, I was at background extra in Your your guys's first feature film that Bernie was a team. Yes, laser team. Yeah, I was like a scientist. You and yeah, you did a lot of other films.

I think yeah, I was about to say, but I think also we had a character in a series that was named after you. Wasn't there a character named Frank in Panics? Yes. Yeah, I think that would have worn by screaming Frank Which is half the joke from the black with these yellow at the dog But half of when we would because you and Gus go back to high school obviously But your history with us goes back before Rooster as well when we would do the early halo weekends or we would all grab our TVs And Xbox isn't go spend the weekend at Bernie's house plane Halo on that long. You were in those groups and I wrote for Bernie screaming Frank at you many, many times. But you also like Jeff was saying that you also have been in many other film projects. Yeah, like you were in Battle Angel, right? Oh yeah, I was in the lead of Battle Angel. I actually made the cut. I was amazed at that. Yeah. You've

been in, were you in Cincinnati? No. No. No. That's what it cut. I was amazed at that. Yeah. You've been in it. When are you in Cincinnati? No. No. That's what it was. That's, I think. So I was recently, it hasn't come out yet, but I was in the Spy Kids reboot or sequel, I guess, but the next generation.

Robert Reed has just filmed that last year, and I got to be one of the henchmen in that. Oh, that's awesome. It was really cool. Yeah, man, I totally geeked out about that because he is such an interesting technical director and he really knows how to work with his visual effects team. We could see the visual effects composited in real time almost after we do a take.

So I got to see all that stuff and that was really awesome because I'm also an aspiring filmmaker and I was just learning as much as I could on the set there in between shots. That's awesome. Also, the one thing I would love to come back and talk about is like when we were doing drunk gamers. Oh, yeah. Back in the day. Yeah, so. The Frexer Veloz for a lot of time.

What year did you move to Austin? Was it like 99? Yeah, it was right before Phantom Menace came out and yeah, it was. Did you go see Phantom Menace with us? I didn't, I forget why, but I didn't go see it with y' us? I didn't I forget why but I didn't go see with y'all I had to go later to the South Theater I can we thought of the Metropolitan yeah, just where we saw I think that's why I ended up going to see it after you guys Or something like that, but also one of the first time when I moved there like that first night

You all came over like a bunch of people from Tell a Network came over and someone had a bootleg copy of Phantom Menace. So I think I watched that there too. We told that story on the spot. Okay, I remember the DPS showed up because we were playing it so loud. That's right. Oh, I forgot about that. We were playing it so loud because, well, the neighbors heard because we had to open the windows because our AC wasn't working.

For like the first week we were there in the summer in Texas. Yeah, anyway. Good memory. Well now it's my favorite part of the show where we guess the name of the podcast The Frank name of the podcast is Ann Ma. Do you know the bit here Frank? Yes, not a bit. It is what the name of the show is I need to be very clear not a bit with this is we really don't know the name Gus at a dream. We know it's three words Austin is not one of them correct You you were very adamant on social media that you were gonna get it this week.

I think that we're gonna get it. Charlie says a new mug. No, I mean, we're making a mug. Are we still making, we might be making a mug. Yes, yeah, we are still making a mug. But no, no. Let's see, gentlemen says,

Annma means anything. So using the acronym. Oh, nested. No. No. Okay, we know Austin is not in the name, so don't send me Austin guesses. It's not Austin made, not the Okay, we know Austin is not in the name, so don't send me Austin guesses. It's not Austin made. Not the name. We already know that's not the name.

We've been very clear about that. Dennis who edits this podcast sometimes says Anthony Mackie. I want to make it back now. I want to bring the idea that we have right now is that we're not telling anyone the name. If we guess it, we get it, but we're going to make a mug that says, and then when you pour hot liquid into it The name is revealed and that's how we're gonna learn the name. Yeah If it says Anthony Mackey when we pour hot coffee into it, I'm gonna fucking flip. I want to get a special one made now Well, there you go what you don't have any guesses. No, I can't go now, man We're gonna, a new morning.

No, I think you've guessed that before. Yeah, and me, Amigos. And me and Amigos. And me and Amigos. And my answer. No, taking my head. But we're gonna, we're gonna get it this way. And I ask.

I think that's been guessed before, too. I think that's been guessed. I don't think I asked. Another one, Ma, that's my guess. No. No. And fuck. Frank, you have any ideas for this acronym that fucking sucks? Uh, are Nima Toad's murdering assholes?

It's four words. It's close though. Almost. Okay. So wait, it's not four words? Is that what you're saying? Yeah, it makes me realize it. It's the end.

It's the end. It's the end. It's the end. It's the end. It's the end. It's the last. It's the end. And the ender in the first word. We think. Oh, wow. OK. Yeah, it's a lot. Anyway, it's in West Moon Chronicles. Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely. There's three episodes after you shoot. Absolutely. West Moon Chronicles on Scout Comics. We will have a link in the description to Scout Comics where you can check it out. And issue number two and three are now fully out. So like, that whole story arc is complete.

Awesome. And if enough people buy it, then Scout will hire me to keep riding more in the world. Oh, please buy it. Oh, please buy it. Buy one for everybody in your family. Yeah. I think that's it.

Frank, thanks for joining us this week. Yeah, thanks. This is so much fun. Yeah, this was like fantastic. We had to have you back on because there's other stuff. There's so much more. There's so much more. I've never even heard most of those stories

or beginnings of inklings to those stories. It's just like on the way here it's like we got to talk about like oh immersion stuff. We got it. We didn't even fucking talk. And we didn't talk about subsay much. Yeah, we did. That's tough man. But we'll get to it next time Frank. We got to have you back on again. Is there anywhere people can follow you anything you want to plug other than have you back on again. Oh, that's sure, for sure. Is there anywhere people can follow you, anything you want to plug, other than a Westman Chronicle, which we'll have a link for in the description? They can follow me on Instagram, I guess.

Frank, June, Kim, like, J-U-N, K-I-M, all one word. Cool. Great news. Any parting words, Gus, Jeff, for the people at home? Leave them when. Let's go eat a sub sandwich. Where would you like to get? I don't know. Let's find out.

He started talking about it on the way here. And we don't know what it is yet. I just, I just, I want to talk about the state of sub sandwiches in Austin, where the good ones are, where the bad ones are, talk about some of the ones that people revere that weren't very good to begin with. The rise and fall of Texidelia. Fuck Texidelia.

Like that's a great one. I never liked Texidelia. You introduced me to Thunder Cloud subs, so that was the whole thing, but yeah. I talk about 20 years off at ThunderClaught, but I'm back. No, right on back with the vids. So get some ThunderSaws.

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