ANMA - The House Episode

Episode Date: October 3, 2022

Good morning, Gus! From Ramsey park near Stinson's Coffee, it's a very house focused episode of ANMA. Learn about The Cheapest House in Austin, a 203K mortgage, Renovations and city permits, Littlefi...eld building vs Norwood building, the urban sprawl of Austin, Stop The Crusher, TV gatekeeping content, Gus vs storage units, and more on this week's episode. Tell a friend about ANMA. Have them take a guess at the name. No one has guessed it yet. Sponsored by Uncommon Goods at http://uncommongoods.com/ANMA and Mint Mobile at http://mintmobile.com/ANMA  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:31 How are you doing? I'm good. Welcome on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Did you? I just a little bit. That's okay. Not me. I'm well rested.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Oh! I'm ready to go. Yeah. Well, I'm happy to hear it. We got coffee from Stinson's this morning, which is what, like, a 45th in Burnett. And we're recording at Ramsey Park, which is just down the road named after
Starting point is 00:00:51 our own co-host here, Jeff Ramsey. That's a gorgeous park. Is it? Oh, I love it. Love it today. This is exactly the kind of thing we talked about in the other episode. It's just like, no, this one's great.
Starting point is 00:01:00 No, this is great. There's trees, there's cover, there's basketball, there's fucking, there's a swimming pool over there There's way more stuff than the other place. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. A baseball field back here. That's not a baseball field That's all they're acts. We're in the word right field dude. Where this is not a baseball board. You need there's a Like I come by here sometimes at night and there's a bunch of old dudes that play like fiddle and violin I'll run over there fiddle and violin or whatever It's some kind of fucking string instrument. It's uh, yeah, this is for Alabama without telling me you're from Alabama. I just tell you I'm from Alabama.
Starting point is 00:01:39 So we picked up the coffee. That's really not a place to record or since it's So we came down to Gorgeous Ramsey Park. Oh, it's a Gorgeous day so far. So, man, you just walking around sometimes are just interacting. I'm an introvert and I'm a hermit. Yeah, you are. I think there's no secret about that. I try to avoid dealing with people whenever possible.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Idol chit chat is awful to me. It's like pulling teeth. But to be nice, someone like starts talking to you You know normally you'll real engage and get back I don't know where this came from like the whole not wanting to talk to people, but Someone just wanted to talk to us this morning Eric and I got there to order the coffee before you showed up. Yeah, and we just could not get away from it As we were parking, this dude walked by
Starting point is 00:02:26 who looked like he had been in a fight, looked like he had lost a fight. Okay. And he's like, he's walking by right out of the car and I'm like, I hope he keeps walking. And he walked into Stincens right behind us, like great. And he just wanted, he just kept wanting to talk about his messed up face.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And we found out that apparently he got hit by a car So he did lose the fight the car won I assume and It was just like I don't want to talk about it like he wanted to talk about his his His face and I was doing everything I could to not look at it and to not talk about it I keep looking over your shoulder some afraid he's in a walk in this direction But I don't see him. He was really bummed that Taco Shack was closed. It was asking about the tacos at Stinson's.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It's like, I don't know. I've never had the tacos there. Okay. He was asking us about the tacos and then telling me that he liked my tattoo and then saying that like he got hit by a car, his eye was like the blood vessel at birth like in one part of his eye, so it's red.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And it's just like, dude, oh, come on. What's up, son? What's up, son? But it was, I could tell he was going to follow us as soon as we parked, because as soon as we were getting out of the car, he clocked us. He was just like, ah, my two new best friends. That's not me, that is not me.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Sounds like he was having a rough day and was just looking for a little kind of. No, it's okay. He got hit by a car on Friday. Oh, he's fine. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just realized why I say the park is gorgeous and you guys don't. You have a much shittier view than I do. It's much prettier this way. I mean, it's prettier in that direction. I wouldn't say it's gorgeous, but yeah, with the direction we're looking at, it's like, it's a dirt field. An empty lot. Yeah. We're at the demarcation line between pretty and, someone moat the grass a month ago, me. There's people doing yoga over here,
Starting point is 00:04:10 there's people training their dogs, kids running around, it's very lovely. We'll tell the guy with the fucked up face to come down here and hang out. It's not 98 degrees. Isn't there like, just yet? Isn't there, so this is an area of town, this is Rosedale, right?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Oh, yeah, it's between like, at the edge is Rosedale, right? Uh, yeah. It's between like, at the edge of Rosedale and the beginning of Allendale. We, you know, we talked about a former coworker of ours several episodes ago. George. Uh, the guy who changed the oil. The guy who changed the oil.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And it would bring to the bag. I learned about the Rosedale part of Austin because of George. George owned a house up here, uh here back in the late 90s. That would have been like 90, I don't know when you bought the house, but I hope he held onto it. Yeah, he had the house, as far as I know, in 1999 or so.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And I think what he had done was he bought like the most dilapidated house up here. And then slowly himself was like learning how to do home renovations and then fixing the house up so that over the course of years he would eventually fix it and then sell it and flip it himself And that's the only reason I know where Rosedale is because his house was up here somewhere. It was in Rosedale. Yeah I felt like that was the time when I didn't know any Austin neighborhoods. I just moved here, I guess and I was trying to you know get the lay of the land
Starting point is 00:05:26 where everything was all on you, is that people said Rosedale was a very expensive place to live and that he was gonna make a lot of money flipping that house. If he held on to it long enough, I bet he did. God damn. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that also is classic George,
Starting point is 00:05:42 the D.I.S. Why ran over the house? To flip it and make it work. I'm sure that was a chapter in the Millionaire next door. By the Lappodated House and slowly fix it up over 20 years yourself. That's kind of what I did with that, I don't know how much we talked about it.
Starting point is 00:05:55 That first house I had over on the East side. The little house? Yeah, it was like, I wanted to buy a house in Austin. This was what? This was 2009. I went to buy a house in Austin and had to what? This was 2009. I wanted to buy a house in Austin and had to, well, I didn't want to spend Austin housing prices at the time.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So I found, or you found it, you told me about it. It was like the cheapest house listed for sale in Austin at the time. And the reason it was the cheapest house in Austin was it looked like no one had lived in it for 20 years, maybe. It was, like maybe someone no one had lived in it for 20 years maybe it was like maybe someone had been squatting in it for a while. Wasn't it also like 850 square feet?
Starting point is 00:06:33 Oh I wish it was like 750. It was a 7-inch square foot house that was built on three slabs like someone. Yeah like someone had built it and then decided to do a 20 square foot addition and then do another 50 square foot addition. It was actually a little bigger than that, but yeah, it was built on three different slabs. It was built in the 40s and I believe it was originally built for little people, because all of the lights, well the ceiling in the house was only seven feet tall. All of the light switches were...
Starting point is 00:07:10 How tall are you? Um, six two. And all of the light switches were about half the height you would expect. Uh... And the doors were small. And the doors were all narrow and really low because of the seven foot ceiling.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Ha! Uh, and so when, you know when my wife and I bought it, we had to hire someone, we had to figure out what we want this house to look like. We hired someone to renovate it and then lived through hell for six months while that happened, or eight months. And...
Starting point is 00:07:39 Didn't you hire the same dude that renovated our tea? Yeah, he renovated our Congress office. I didn't know any contractors. Like, hey, that dude knows how to do stuff. God, what a mistake. That didn't end well, dude. That didn't end well, no. Contractors, it's funny when you hire a contractor
Starting point is 00:07:52 because it's like, you're green to give someone money so that you can hate them in six months. Yeah. I mean, it's like, here you go. This is, I'm looking forward to giving you a lot of money and I'm looking forward to despising you when this is all done. Totally agree, dude.
Starting point is 00:08:03 There's a family out there who I loved a lot early on and then after they put a second floor on my old house, I hope I never see them again, ever. Yep. Ever. Yeah, but I'm a big dumb, you know, I did that once. That house actually sold last summer. Yeah, that little house, that 750 square foot of house sold last summer. Yeah, that little house, that 750 square foot house sold
Starting point is 00:08:25 last summer. And I want to say it's sold for $550,000. I bought it in 2009 for, I want to say 160 or 170. You said that Jeff found it. Where did you find it? I don't, how do you find a house? How do you find the cheapest house in Austin? It was close to where I lived. It was just that, it was just a place like, I think I just was driving around software sale. And I knew he was looking. And I wanted selfishly, I wanted him to live close to me
Starting point is 00:08:57 so that we could not hang out. But it very clear, very close to each other. Yeah, but it's like proximity. So apparently, when I bought this house, I learned a lot. This is the first house I ever purchased and I did a lot of advanced home buying things with this house. It, what?
Starting point is 00:09:14 There is a special kind of mortgage you can get called a 203K. And the 203K allows you to not only pay for the house, but get extra money to do the renovation at the same time. It sounds brilliant, right? Sounds like a great idea. It is a mountain of paperwork. Like the red tape involved in doing a 203K
Starting point is 00:09:35 is a fucking nightmare. I don't know, I lost count of how many times I was screaming on the phone about this fucking 203K mortgage, too. I quit doing business with Bank of America over this 203K mortgage, too. I quit doing business with Bank of America over this 203K, because they fucked me so many times on this mortgage. I mean, it is a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So if you're looking for a house and you want to bundle a renovation budget into it, you can look into the 203K, but let me warn you right now, it is a fucking nightmare. Do you know what I remember the most about that house? What's that? You guys went all in on the countertops. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:08 You were very excited. You had a really nice custom made countertops that were half the size of the house. So these countertops were all stainless steel and it was all one piece. There's only two places in the United States that can, at the time, they're one of the two places in the US that could do this. And you send very exact measurements and they cut like this one giant piece of stainless steel,
Starting point is 00:10:29 and you get like, you know, marine edge, you design the countertop exactly how you want it. And yes, this was a huge part of our budget, of our renovation budget, was the countertop. He brought me up just to see the countertops. And I'll be honest, they were gorgeous. I mean, really gorgeous. I thought you were going to say something about my countertop. They were just great countertops, they were gorgeous. I mean, really gorgeous. I thought you were gonna say something when you were in my countertop. They were just great countertop.
Starting point is 00:10:47 They were great. I mean, he was bracing for this. I was asking. I mean, you know, in 2022, maybe, maybe don't hold up stylistically, but in like 2009, they were like dead on. Yeah, it was great. They were great.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Wouldn't want them today. There you go. There it is. There it is. Oh man, yeah, it was a learning process. And then like a big idiot, you know, when that's done, we finished in 2009, you know, you have that whole thing like,
Starting point is 00:11:17 I learned from this experience, I'm never doing this again. I'm never gonna under do this again. I did it again in 2018. In 2018, I was like, oh, cool. I'm gonna do a renovation again. Different, different house. I was about to say, this is, you're on your third home, right?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. I am as well. Uh, as much of a nightmare as you described that process, that just kind of feels like how, like, every time I buy a house, I'm better along, I've got more money, I'm like further along in life, I'm more financially secure. Yeah. And I feel like
Starting point is 00:11:45 it's supposed to get easier, but it's a fucking nightmare every time you buy a house. Just sucks. The second time. Everything sucks. The other house, so after I sold the little house, I was like, I'm learning, I'm older. Like you said, I'm a little better off financially.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm not gonna buy a dilapidated house or renovated. I'm gonna buy a new house. I'm gonna buy a new construction. I'm gonna buy a new construction. That's its own nightmare. That's its own thing. It's like, oh, no one has lived in this house yet, so they don't know all the things that are broken. Oh, it's like, you move into new construction,
Starting point is 00:12:14 you're like, oh, this is gonna be great. Everything's gonna work fine. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. We had a toilet that if you flushed it more than twice, it would start backing up because someone had left like a balloon in the pipe underground.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Like I guess it was like a balloon that they used to clear out after when like during the construction process and it had broken off in the pipe and they had just left it there. So if you flush the toilet twice, the water couldn't get past the balloon. So it would start overflowing. See, that's the new construction problem you have that you don't think about.
Starting point is 00:12:45 What? And you don't discover it until it's an emergency and you have to flush twice and you're like, oh no, it's everywhere. I would do what the sweet spot is because all the houses I buy are made like our hundred years old. Like the house I'm living in now, I think it was built in 34,
Starting point is 00:12:59 I wanna say, and the previous one was built in 38. And I always think like, I gotta buy a new house next time because this is a fucking, oh shit, all of my cast iron plumbing disintegrated under the house, better dig a 25 foot trench under the entirety of my house and spend 45 grand replacing the plumbing. Like I figure like, I'm a sucker for buying old houses
Starting point is 00:13:19 but it's nice to know that new houses suck, dude. So it's funny you mentioned cast iron pipes. This is gonna be the house episode by the way. I've already got it. Oh yeah. That old house, oh they say the little first house I bought, had a very similar issue with you talking about where the main sewer line leaving the house collapsed.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It broke, whatever. Yeah, right, like had to replace it, so we had to hire a plumber to come out. And like you said, had to dig a trench from the sewer connection to the street all the way up to our house, like dug everything up with this little backhoe. And it's like, oh, your sewer line is cast iron
Starting point is 00:13:51 covered in concrete. Like a plumber is telling me, I've never seen that before. Like cool. And he's like, yeah, this is gonna be really difficult to replace, like awesome, awesome. Thank you, for doing this. He's like, it's not the worst thing I've ever seen. He's like, one time I was working on a house in these Texas
Starting point is 00:14:06 And they had wooden pipes. I was like okay now you're bullshit me. There's no way you work in a house with a white Yeah, yeah, I've heard about those you have yeah, I thought to the real I thought that guy was messing with no No, no, no, they wouldn't pipes for real Okay, so at least I didn't have wooden pipes, but cast iron pipes covered in concrete. Yeah, yeah, I actually have I still have a bunch of cast iron under my kitchen that they didn't replace because like 20 years ago, they did the bladder thing where they shoot the balloon in and then inflate it
Starting point is 00:14:35 and then it like coats the pipe and then that just like, it adds an extra 30 years to your pipes. Oh, okay. Yeah. When the dude was finishing up replacing my main sewer line with the backhoe, he dug up all that concrete covered cast iron put, I don't remember fucking PVC,
Starting point is 00:14:53 I don't remember what it was, put new pipes down. Before he could recover it back up with all the dirt, he had to leave it exposed because the city of Austin had to come through the permitting department, had to come through and test it. They do a pressure test of some kind to make sure the work's done right. So they had to like leave it open, had to leave like this vertical pipe connected to it. So I guess they could hook up and do the test.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And that was right at the same time that a hurricane hit the Texas Gulf coast. So it rained for a week in Austin. And they can't do the test when it's raining because they can't see if water is leaking. So I had an open trench in my front yard while it poured rain for a week. Just waiting for the rain to stop so that they could test my pipe and then we could recover the ground and not have a muddy mosh pit for a front yard. The fucking joys of home ownership, dude. It is, I'm going through a thing right now.
Starting point is 00:15:47 This isn't bad at all, but I wanted to get a pool in my backyard to fight the heat. I do. I desperately want a pool. Terrible idea. And I know some people think it's a terrible idea. Don't do it. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That's fine. People are allowed to think that. This person thinks it's a great idea and wants to have a pool. It's going to get one. But I have to rerun the electric to my house underground because the wires go over where the pool would be. So they're going to have to reroute the electric and I need to also replace my breaker box anyway. So I hired an electrician in June and I am still waiting for the city disconnect notice
Starting point is 00:16:26 to get through. And it is fucking September 26th today, probably. And we checked in with him last week, and he's like, yeah, man, they're still back. It's that backed up. The city won't even say, like, okay, disconnect your power so that you can at least get the new breaker box. I've been waiting three months. No, and insight. to get the new breaker box. I've been waiting three months. When I did my last renovation,
Starting point is 00:16:47 I hired this big contracting firm to do a lot of home renovations in Austin. And there was an extra fee you can pay, like an add-on, where you pay the contracting company and they hire this specialty company in Austin whose sole job is to expedite permits. They have people who sit in the permit office all day and know all the parameters that way,
Starting point is 00:17:10 you can get your permits through the process more easily. And it was like, I don't know, like an extra thousand bucks or something and it's like, yeah, then Joe will sit in the permit office all day for you and make sure your permits get approved and we're not sitting around waiting for permits. Like I hate, I feel like I'm being extorted and I feel like this is a scam,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but I know if I don't pay it, I'm gonna be waiting three months for a power to disconnect notice. Like, it's gonna make my life a fucking hell if I don't do this. It's pretty rough in 2022. I mean, just in this neighborhood we're in right now, you can see, like there's like 20 houses under construction
Starting point is 00:17:46 with an eyesight. I mean, yeah, there's huge construction dumpster, they're getting that house right there. That house right there is getting gutted. That one on the corner just got rebuilt. There's one like three houses down past that block that's under a huge renovation. It's like every fifth house in Austin
Starting point is 00:18:02 is under some sort of renovation. It would be interesting to see with interest rates going up like the way they are, what happens to the housing market here. I feel like during the 0809 financial crisis, we didn't really see too much of a correction, kind of leveled off for a little bit. Well, we were undervalued at that point, and I think was what helped us.
Starting point is 00:18:22 That was just why I actually bought that house in 09, as I felt like things had kind of evened out for a little bit. Like it wasn't totally a seller's market anymore. Like you'd have a little bit of leverage. And I'm curious to see how, what's gonna happen now? Moving forward, because things are definitely fucking out of whack here. It's like, looney tunes crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I love all this talk about how much of a nightmare it is to buy a house, because I am in the process of looking for a Summer house in Michigan to buy a by-way house It's just reminding me about a fucking nightmare. It's all gonna be and I'm gonna be buying a house in this like a place You don't live five states over. Yeah, it's just gonna be worse and worse. What a fucking nightmare. I just I can't I can't do it I can't anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I, Emily and I went to walk to dinner last night. We were like, let's fucking stretch our legs and walk to dinner at eight o'clock at night. It was 95 degrees. It's nice now. And it is September 25th. It was 95 degrees at 8 p.m. And Emily was like, I got an alert on my phone,
Starting point is 00:19:19 you know, when you get like a memories on your, and it was like 11 years ago, and it was a screenshot she had taken of the weather it was 104, 11 years ago. 2011 was the worst summer. I mean, that was that was bad. Because the point is, it's like here we are 11 years later, and it's still too hot to go outside.
Starting point is 00:19:33 It's only gonna get worse. I know, I'm just worn out. I gotta get away. This was, this was a particularly bad, I will say this was a particularly bad summer. It was not like the worst ever. It was like like what like fifth worst summer ever or something. How is that it?
Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, so it was bad. 2011 was worse. I just wanted to make sure he remembers that. 2011 was the worst year ever. That was bad. So this should not be this hot right now. I think we're finally at the part. We're at the point in the year where we're getting entering false fall two.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. So it's going to be nice for a week or two before it gets kind of bad again. It's like 60 degrees in Michigan right now. Yeah, but how bad is it in January? I won't be there in January, it's a summer house. I'll be here. Fair point.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Listen, I'm not fucking going to Michigan to do Anima. I'm telling you that right now. Well, there would be no point. This is. And I don't think. Oh, is it is the in and anama Michigan? Austin in Michigan always. It's all right, but close enough.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That works just fine. You guys have been here for a long time, and I'm sure you know a lot of people who were buying homes, probably before you got, well maybe not before you were, I don't know, but like what was that process like where you probably weren't the first one? Cause I'm probably other than like Garrett from Mega 64, I'm probably wanna like the first to buy something, like buy by something instead of rent.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Let me say Diego so expensive. So like that's where most of my friends are. And then out here people are buying and stuff. But like what was that like when you guys were younger, when people are actually buying, was it like, oh, shit, I need to get in on this or was it like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Jeff is that.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Jeff's probably the better one to answer that. Like we've talked about before. He bought the house when he was really young. I was like in 2000, I bought my first house. I was 31. I was 23 when I bought my first house, I was 31. I was 23 when I bought my first house. It's so weird because it seemed like such a natural progression to me.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Like I was so keyed in on growing up and becoming like a, I don't know, like a settled, responsible adult. So when I got out of the army and I got a job and I was like, I'm gonna work at this job. I'm still very, like very, I guess like, boomer, Jinx, line of thinking like, I'll work here for 20 years, I'll start the mortgage now.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And I just remember how everybody laughed at me or thought I was crazy. Like even Bernie, that's how I met Bernie. It was Bernie, he got the call from a loan officer to verify employment and he was like, how the fuck is an hourly employee at the call center buying a house before I do? So he called me and was office to talk to me about it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I just, I had my VA home loan, which at the time was awesome. Like it's gonna be awesome again. It's gonna be awesome. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's okay gonna be awesome. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's okay, it is. What did I get? 6% right?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Like National Evertooth 7 and I got it 6. I read it's gonna go up to like 6.3. Yeah. So here we are again. And I bought a house that was within my means. Like I was making, I was making $8 an hour and I bought a $92,000 house. And I didn't have any, I didn't have to put any money down
Starting point is 00:22:45 or anything because it was a V.A. home loan. And it just made sense to me. And then I realized very quickly that I was kind of alone on an island and would be for a long time. Yeah. When I was around the same age, after I'd left the call center, maybe in 2000, 2001, so like when I was like 22, 23, I had looked at a house as well. Well, like I was making good money
Starting point is 00:23:11 once I left the call center, you know, I was working to that corporate job. And I probably have the same thought process you did. Like, oh, I'm going to buy a house, I'm going to be here for a long time. And I remember looking at a house, I really liked Terry Town. I went to buy a house in Terry Town. I looked at a house in Terry Town. It was a corner lot. It was small. I want to say it was like a two, one and a house, I really liked Terry Town. I went to my house in Terry Town. I looked at a house in Terry Town. It was a corner lot. It was small. I wanna say it was like a two, one and a half, maybe a two one, and it was $300,000.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I remember thinking, that's ridiculous. No one's ever buying a house for that price. Stupid me, probably a multi-million dollar house now. But yeah, that's what makes you think about, you talk about buying a $90,000 house, it wasn't in central Austin, was off Riverside like it was within walking Eastern Riverside yeah kind of walking this is the buzz mill which we did an episode at yeah, it was like just a little further east from there, you know it's a
Starting point is 00:23:55 Prime location that people would pay several hundred thousand dollars for nowadays. It's sold that house sold Jason showed me that house sold I I wanna say two years ago, for like, 540,000. Yeah. I bought it for 92. That's the house, that's the house that got taken away from me by the Homeowners Association that I had to threaten to kill the head of the HOA,
Starting point is 00:24:17 and I had to buy it back from the guy that bought it, it was the whole thing. I turned around and sold it, after I bought it back from that dude, I turned around and sold it for 1455 and then yeah, 10 years later it sold for half a million dollars. That's not the way. It's fucking nuts. It's like what do you mean? That shouldn't happen.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That shouldn't happen. That's too much growth. That's too much growth. It's too many people. I mean, it's just, people are always, I've seen the Austin subreddit, people are always like, doom and gloom about the housing market in Austin. And I think normally I'd agree with him to probably hear that throws the housing market out of whack is so many people have been moving here.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And construction just doesn't keep up. There's not enough high density construction projects. It's lots of low density single family and everything, very single family. It can sustain the amount of people moving here. It can a lot of low-density single-family and everything. Yeah. It can't sustain the amount of people moving here. It can't sustain the growth. It's San Diego is the same thing. Everything single-family and note they didn't build apartments. There was no dense. It was like downtown and then everything else is like an island of just what we're looking at here where it's single-family
Starting point is 00:25:18 homes. And then it's like, well San Diego is too crowded. It's like well you didn't all the nimbis who moved in and they went, I'm here, shut the door behind me. Yeah, yeah. They all moved in and they went, well, I don't want this apartment building here because it changes the vibe of the area or whatever shit excuses and then everything gets expensive and they go, huh, so expensive here.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And it's like, because you. Right, yeah. I love all the people that move into like, like the neighborhood on the mar around Zilkarpark or South Congress or any of the condos like on East six street and then complain about the music noise. Yeah, that's like you moved to a quote unquote live capital music of the world. Yeah, motherfucker. That's probably half the road. And you moved here. Did you see that post on the Austin subreddit of someone saying like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 what do I do about noise complaints? And then it's their post is, I moved into an apartment around Sixth Street, and a lot of these bars are louder than after 10 p.m. Who do I complain to? Who do I call? And it's just all the comments are just lighting them up. Like, what? Who do you think you are?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Who do you think you are? We knew someone who lived on Sixth Street. What really? Yeah. Like on 36 on dirty six feet lived above Was it the hot the tears of joy? It would know it was above Art gallery that where they sold that You know that like fuck. I don't know who the artist is, but he draws like black and white like little cartoon characters And it's something I don't further in, it was further towards Congress
Starting point is 00:26:48 that he was a joy. It was like in the middle. It's in the middle. It's in the middle. You would walk up, whatever, like closer to like, Dacary Factors. Whatever he lived above was not a bar. And you would like buzz and you could go up like this stairs,
Starting point is 00:27:00 he lived on the second floor, like above it. And he had also like a, there was like a rooftop you could hang out on. Like overlooking right on six street. And like you'd have people over, you'd hang out, like this is fucking nuts that you live like in the middle of six street, and you have to deal with this shit all the time.
Starting point is 00:27:19 But you know, we were all young, like early mid-20s, like you know, I'm sure he thought it was awesome at the time, we visited him a couple times but I could not imagine even even at that age I could not imagine living right there on six streets. Yeah, it was loud as fuck every time we go over for a party But still it was yeah, and impossible to get in and out of right yeah on a Friday night Well, and that was back when that was when you guys would show me pictures of like yeah We just park right in front of casino al Camino. Yeah, this is probably 2004
Starting point is 00:27:47 Yeah, three So the population was like half of what it is now. Oh, yeah, it wasn't that late. It was probably like 2002 Yeah, it was before rooster. Yeah Yeah, so do me like go to you don't think you could have done that. You don't think you could have lived on six Absolutely not I would have loved to do that for a year I could have done that? You don't think you could have lived on six weeks? Absolutely not. I would have loved to do that for a year. I could have done it for a year. I could have done it for a year. I could have done that for a year,
Starting point is 00:28:07 but then at about a year and a half mark, I think I might have jumped off the balcony. Yeah, it would have just been the drunkest year of my life, you know? Yeah. Yeah, which it was probably saying a lot back then. Then it's like, I was living at the bars, like, god damn. Who could have asked for more? That would have been, like, at that age,
Starting point is 00:28:29 at that time and everything, that would have been awesome. That would have been the coolest. Just walk downstairs, like I'm gonna eat dinner, now I'm gonna go get drunk and I'm home. And everyone come over. I had, I worked for a while, that corporate job. I was based out of the Littlefield building there at Sixth and Congress. So I had an office out of the Littlefield building there at six in Congress.
Starting point is 00:28:46 So I had an office there in the Littlefield building on the third floor. And it was great, because on the weekends, I had a parking spot. There was a reserve parking spot in the Littlefield garage that had my initials on it. You know, I could go in there, park, go out, drink, have a good time, whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:59 If I drank too much, I'd just go to my office. And I'd just sleep on the couch in my office in the Littlefield building. I'd just like, badge in, go upstairs, you know, turn the lights on my office. And I just sleep on the couch of my office and the little field building. I just like badge in, go upstairs, turn the lights on my office and just pass out. Yeah. So that part was convenient, but the little field building is also like
Starting point is 00:29:13 a little further removed off to the side. It's right on Congress. And it's an old building that's actually insulated pretty well. You couldn't hear it the outside. So that was fine. When I got my first TSA pre-check, like way after right after they started it, I actually got it in the little field building.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I wanna say I'm like the eighth of the ninth floor. It was the seventh floor. There was a Regis. Yeah. Like shared off the space you rent, kind of like a we work, but it's like we work before we work. And the TSA rented from Regis,
Starting point is 00:29:42 and I remember thinking like, what kind of ramshackle organization am I giving my fucking information to? That building has a half floor, like in Beinge on Melchowicz. I don't know if a lot of people know that. If you look at it from the outside, you can see where it is.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Like, it's where the little field building name wraps around on the outside of the building. I wanna say it's like the sixth and a half, maybe the fifth and a half floor. What? Yeah, it's like, you go, like I wanna say it's the fifth and a half floor. maybe the fifth and a half floor? What? Yeah, it's like, you go, like, I wanna say it's the fifth and a half floor. So it's like, you take the elevator to you,
Starting point is 00:30:08 the fifth or the sixth floor, then you get out, and then you go into the stairwell, and you walk either, you know, depending where you are, either up or down, like half a flight of stairs, and then there's just like a little half door in the wall, and you can open it up, and it's just like being John Melchim, except there's not people working in there. It's just storage, and you just like, hunch over and it's just like being John Malchim, it's except there's not people working in there. It's just storage.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And you just like hunch over and like crawl around in the little half floor. Do you know why that is? Because I think I do, but I don't know. I know. So I think when Littlefield built that building, initially it was up to that half floor, is where the roof was.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And it was the tallest building in Austin. And then Cadi Corner on Congress, on the Southwest side. There's another tall building. I don't remember what it's called. It's got a name too. And somebody like a rival of Littlefield built that building like a story or two stories taller and then he had the tallest building.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So Littlefield extended the height of his building to make it one story taller than that building. So he had the highest building again. I could be wrong about that, but I'm pretty sure I read that. So from the little field building, across Congress from it on the west side, and then like two blocks north, is that really tall white building, the Norwood building.
Starting point is 00:31:15 That might be it. That I think that building's still taller. That's why I'm gonna ask, I don't know when that building was built, because that's a pretty tall building, and I think it was built a long time ago. And I don't know if you've ever heard the story behind the Norwood building The Norwood building has like it's like a tall white building then on the top it looks like a fancy house
Starting point is 00:31:32 Okay, it's because I guess whoever built it whatever the guy's name was James Norwood or whatever the fuck his name was Uh wanted to build his wife a palace in the sky So he built a really tall building and then built them a house on top of it. So they could, you know, at the time, you know, it was like, nowadays, like, it's kind of forget what kind of gets lost in the skyline,
Starting point is 00:31:53 but at the time it was like, the biggest thing around for miles, like, so they could live way higher than everyone else, like, that's some baller shit. That's pretty baller, that's like. It's like, I did it in India. Yeah, I'm gonna build a building and then I'm gonna build a mansion on top of it. And we're gonna look down on everyone else.
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Starting point is 00:36:11 and the reason they bury so much stuff for the winner is because they forget where like 80% of it is. Yeah. So get from them. Idiots. What a fucking moron. Well, they don't have phones yet. They can't even get phones yet.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, that's true. So you guys have seen sort of this, I guess you want to call it urban sprawl of what Austin has sort of become now. Yeah. Versus where you guys were living before and then where you're living now and where everything sort of spread out,
Starting point is 00:36:36 even Ruster Teeth sort of spread out from where, you know, downtown and moving up. From the spare bedroom. Yeah, right. Like moving to like what you guys talking about, like Ralph Oblinato or whatever. And then now you're, you showing me picture of the Northern building.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Pretty cool. Yeah, yeah. But now you see, you know, we're up north in what the Mueller area, which is probably way more north than you guys ever really went when Austin was. Unless we're going bowling. Unless you're going bowling. Unless you were going bowling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Do you think that spread continues? Like it has to, doesn't it? Like, in my mind. In my mind, there's always been, and I think Jeff probably thinks the same way. There's always been a boundary to Austin proper. And I think that this sprawl will continue, but the further you get from that core,
Starting point is 00:37:28 the more, the well, it's different now. The more deluded the experience became. Yes. Overall, the experience has become different now, so I don't know how much weight that still holds, but I think you'll still, you'll still could see that sprawl, but the further you get the less austinia it is in general. But as austin changes,
Starting point is 00:37:48 it kind of like evens out with that sprawl as well. Yeah, as austin changes the less austinia austinia is. Right. I guess that sounds negative and I don't mean it to be. It's just austin's becoming a different place. Right. That's why I didn't want to say it was less austinia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's just different. Yeah, it's like, I don't know if it's the outside sprawl influencing the Austin itself, or if it's just the sheer amount of people moving in and then making noise complaints about bars that they live by, it's just dumb stuff like that. It just times changing in general. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:20 We used to say was when we were younger that Austin itself was bound on the North by 183, on the West by Moe Pack, and then on the East going around 183 as well, and then on the South Bend White. So it's like, there was, you know, kind of this core of the city itself. And we would always,
Starting point is 00:38:37 don't we never want to go past any of those streets? Yeah. Like that was it. That being said, even up here was way too far North for us. Yeah, we're not, we're pretty far south of 183, but. We're not too far from North Loop and FlightPad, where we joked about like visiting our friends who lived on North Obey. Man, that's really far, that's really far north, which in the Grand Ski, but things really
Starting point is 00:38:57 is not. But I think, you know, you'll continue to see that sprawl, you know, Cedar Park, Liberty Hill, Leander, like all these places. Park, Liberty Hill, Leander, like all these places. Yeah, I think there's a big Samsung plan. There is. There is. And that's gonna, I heard that area is exploding.
Starting point is 00:39:10 That Samsung plan. Fucking dude, that fucking Samsung plan. So they're building it right off the end of the runway at the airport there. Are they really? Yeah, so it's like anytime, I'm always paranoid. I'm gonna fucking hit a crane at the Samsung platform. Oh my God, leaving the Taylor airport. Wow. Anytime I'm always paranoid I'm gonna fucking hit a crane the Samsung
Starting point is 00:39:27 Leaving the Taylor airport It's like the airport then the road and then the Samsung plant and it's like you have to be like okay There's right cranes right over there. Don't hit a crane. Oh And I think it's they're gonna be there for like the next year and a half building that place But yeah, all these small towns that were just like You wouldn't even stop at before you know years ago and a half building that place. But yeah, all these small towns that were just like, you wouldn't even stop that before, you know, years ago, I have really explored like Liberty Hill is fucking crazy. When we first moved here, I couldn't have found Liberty Hill on a map, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Well, we watched the growth alone just in Buda from I'd say 2003 to 2007 maybe. Yeah, so we had our first office down there. 2003 to 2007 maybe. Yeah, so we had our first office down there. Well, our first office was Bernie Sparbetroom, right? Cause he lived in Buda in like a little neighborhood about halfway between Buda and Salt Lake.
Starting point is 00:40:16 And then we outgrew it. Well, actually, I think his wife was sick of having us in the house at the time. And so we got an apartment in downtown Buda. And I think maybe even touched on when we talked about big oak filly, but a Walmart and a Cabela's opened up and then every local business in buta shut down. Yeah. And there were just and then suddenly there are houses being built everywhere you could see. I don't know if you remember this at that time in Buda, but there was a lot of construction going on at the time, obviously, with all the stuff
Starting point is 00:40:49 you're talking about. And, you know, with all this construction, they have to bring heavy equipment in and, you know, it gets loud, roads get fucked up. And as part of this, one of the construction companies who was like building this subdivision of houses needed to build a giant rock crusher.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I guess they would dig up huge rocks and put it in the crusher and it would break them down into smaller gravel that they could reuse into whatever the hell they needed to do. Or maybe it was for making concrete on site or something. They would have this rock crusher. Of course, speaking of nimbis, all these people were opposed to them building this rock crusher out there to build this development. So they all put up these signs around Buddha. And I thought it was like the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:41:33 I was almost like something out of a superhero movie or something out of like a villain origin story because they all had these signs. It said stop the crusher. And we would drive by them and be like, man, that's fucking cool. I mean, I picture like the crusher. And we would drive by them and be like, man, that's fucking cool. Like, I mean, I picture like the crusher is like this super mega rich, like, feeling like like loser type who's not going to destroy the city.
Starting point is 00:41:53 The citizens are begging for someone to come and stop the crusher from, uh, from destroying their way alive. And I would laugh every time we would drive through beauty and see the stop the crusher somewhere everywhere. Stop it. Everybody still has to stop the crusher son. Did they stop the crusher? I don't We didn't live there. We didn't give a fuck yeah, it didn't matter me. I was like yeah go crusher We were we were just mad we had to drive fucking 45 minutes to make red versus blue because somebody refused to live in Austin
Starting point is 00:42:19 45 minutes each direction. Yeah, and deal with fucking rush hour traffic every day of our lives because somebody wanted to live in the country is somebody sitting at that table right this table right now no no no no that was uh somebody somebody can't even be bothered to live in this country anymore let alone the country yeah that was uh that was a that was a, that was brutal. That was a lot of driving. I feel like when you're younger, at least I don't know, I wanna speak for you guys. When I was younger, I felt like driving wasn't as much of a waste of time as I feel like it is now.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Yeah, absolutely. Like I think when you're younger, you don't value your time as much. So you're like, oh yeah, whatever, I'm gonna drive 45 minutes, I'm gonna drive an hour. It's like, it's no big deal. You're just gonna, that's just part of doing the thing. I can make the most out of it.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Like, when I lived in that condo downtown for two years, just getting from Austin Film Studios to my place at third and Bowie or fifth and Bowie, sometimes it would take an hour and 20 minutes, you know, or eight minutes if it wasn't in rush hour, you know, just you never knew. And you just like, you kinda get into rhythm, like, I just, it was just an opportunity
Starting point is 00:43:28 to listen to Howard Stern. Yeah. I just, I just tried to make the most of it. That's what the same thing I did. As a matter of fact, I was driving to Bernie's house to make Red versus Blue the day, the moment I was listening to Stern on the way to Bernie's house when the radio station went dark and came back on,
Starting point is 00:43:46 and it came back on and it was easy listening. It was hard rock without, it was rock and roll without the hard edge. It's what they re-branded the station in the middle of us Howard Stern episode. Wow, no way. And it was just gone. And then suddenly it was like a Bob FM type radio station.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It was Jack FM back then. Jack FM. And then they rebranded it to Bob. Yeah. Wow. And that's when my ride got worse. It's like it wasn't hard anymore. Before sound like radio.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Oh, yeah. It's funny I remember that's one of the early memories I have when I first moved to Austin, like watching local TV and seeing. And remember thinking it was we like seeing ads for radio stations on like local TV and seeing, and remember thinking it was like seeing ads for radio stations on like local TV, and that was one of them, I think, that station you're talking about, that plate started. Like they would have a TV commercial and I thought,
Starting point is 00:44:35 it's weird watching one dying medium run ads on another dying medium that's not as dead yet to try to get people to leave this one and then go experience that or To remember it when they get to their fucking car. I want to say it was 98.9, but I could be wrong It's been a long time since I had to remember Radio station. Yeah Man, that is a that is a That is something that was already really dead and dying by that point. That has just, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I mean, even if you talk about music streaming, killing like album sales or how people's listening habits are totally changed, who listens to the fucking radio anymore? Like AM FM radio, like even when I was a kid, AM was like on the way out. AM gold was long gone. And I can't imagine like who at this point is like, yeah, I'm gonna turn on the FM radio and Like, AM gold was long gone. And I can't imagine, like, who at this point is like, yeah, I'm gonna turn on the FM radio
Starting point is 00:45:27 and listen to something right now. I mean, I think AM exists because of conservative talk radio and sports, right? That's the only two reasons you would tune into AM. And FM, I don't know. Maybe because the rental car you have, you didn't pay for the serious upgrade. Or you can't, like, you don't have the cable
Starting point is 00:45:43 to plug your phone in. Yeah, yeah. You wanna stream something? You're talking about these being dying mediums. serious upgrade or you can't like you don't have the cable to plug your phone in. Yeah, yeah. Stream something. You're talking about these being dying mediums. And I agree. I think like the average age for people who are like watching cable is older. No, ever. It's that there's no youth coming into it.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Whatever. But do you think because this is how it felt doing stuff with May 64, whenever no one gave a fuck when you did something that was actually cool, but when you had something on TV, it was very exciting for people who did not know what you did or understand. There's like a legitimacy to those things. Do you think that's still there?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Like do you think that if there was a TV show suddenly, do you think there's more legitimacy to that in like people's eyes? Only still? To like boomers, you know think there's more legitimacy to that in people's eyes? Only still? To boomers. It's like all old people at this point. It's that different mindset where it's like TV is the epitome of gatekeeping content.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Where's the internet has been the exact opposite of that. Like the internet, you put something up, that's why no one gives a fuck. It's like, yeah, whatever, are you doing something on the internet? Anyone can do something on the internet. Like TV, it's like someone had to see the value in this and rubber stamp in, say, yes, this is good.
Starting point is 00:46:51 But fuck TV, dude, I mean, it's all old people at this point. I don't think anyone gives a fuck at this point anymore. I have a 17 year old daughter who loves to watch shows and movies and shit, but she has no idea what TV is. Like she really doesn't. Like we haven't had cable since in years. And she, to her TV is apps. You know, it really, all TV is apps anymore.
Starting point is 00:47:18 The idea of her watching live over the air TV, like it would be so foreign to her. It's sports, right? Like sports is the only thing that I'll watch. You, the NFL baseball wrestling, like stuff that, that's the only appointment viewing. I can't imagine sitting down and like watch, like TV TV, especially like cable TV.
Starting point is 00:47:38 It's so expensive too. It's, yeah, yeah, I don't get it. You know what else is expensive? Buying all the fucking other apps to put bundle them together to eat Full what cable was they should put all of those apps together and then you can watch them however And you pay one fee and they have all the channel or apps all together in one place Yeah, it's it's funny how much that all of that stuff has changed from, you know, I remember being a little kid and there were like 10 channels or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And then it was like the proliferation to cable, then you had hundreds and then people became frustrated with it. Like, I don't want all of these channels. I just want this alacard thing. And then it took a long time, but eventually the company's like, oh, you want an alacard thing? Fuck you. Here it is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Here's what I don't think any of us realized in that era when we were kind of drawn the line out and seeing the future and in that Alacar era, we were like, why should we pay? Like, why am I paying for C-SPAN? I'll never watch C-SPAN, right? Or at the time, I didn't like sports. So, I didn't want ESPN.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Now, I couldn't live without it. But we were so fucking short-sighted. Like I remember lobbying, like let's get rid of cable, let's do Alacart, we've got Netflix now, let's have these, we'll just pay for the services we want. And I think the thing that we were missing as idealized young 20-somethings is that when the money realized there was more money
Starting point is 00:49:05 to be made this way, they were just gonna fuck us that much harder. And we just, we like, it's our fault. We bitch too much. We were too short-sided. We were too short-sided. We got what we wanted, and I did not consider the fact that the way to get it
Starting point is 00:49:18 would be for corporations to make more money off of this. For you to pay more. Even more. Meanwhile, here I am paying for Paramount Plus and Peacock and Hulu and Amazon and Netflix. Can I move you pay for Netflix? Uh, I do. I get some stuff I like on Peacock.
Starting point is 00:49:32 What do you watch on Peacock? I just watch the resort. Yeah, I watch the office. I just watch the resort. It was awesome. A lot of my housewives are on Peacock. Yeah, real housewives of Miami is on a. That's what you're missing, guys. Yeah. No, I know. I'm good. My housewives are on the PCOX. Real housewives of Miami is on the...
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Starting point is 00:49:59 But that's just too much upkeep. I can't wait. Yeah. But that's what they bank on, right? Is the apathy that you're just gonna keep paying for this fucking thing. I'm real on the fence of Paramount Plus. Like, I don't, I have it, but man, I really struggle
Starting point is 00:50:12 to keep satisfying it to myself. I watch a lot of Paramount Plus, because if Beavis and Butthead is running right now, it's so fucking good. I recently discovered Detroiters. And Detroiters, I'm going through that whole show, and then that's where like, Amazing Race and Survivor are as well.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Amazing Race is also on Prime Video. I watched almost every season of Amazing Race on Prime Video a few years ago. I just started the new season last night. They just started the new season. I didn't know it was gonna come out so soon. The main reason I watch Paramount Plus, or the main reason I subscribe Paramount Plus
Starting point is 00:50:44 is for air disasters. And they don't even have every season. You just can't get enough. Some of the seasons, they have weird licensing things in the US where some of the seasons are owned by Smithsonian Network and some of them are, it's just all over the place. And so they don't even have every episode on there.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The reason I got Paramount Plus was because they had non-US seasons of survivor. Like they had South Africa, they had Australia, and they had another country. I was halfway through a season of Australia, and they pulled them all. Oh really? Yeah, I was like eight episodes into a season
Starting point is 00:51:18 on Australia, and then they just removed it all. Is it like the same show, but everyone just has accents? No, it's way better. It's way better in Australia. Yeah, everybody is like way more, and I don't mean this as an indictment on America, Is it like the same show, but everyone just has accents? No, it's way better. It's way better. It's really? Yeah. Everybody is like way more, and I don't mean this as an indictment on America, but everybody is more physically fit on those shows.
Starting point is 00:51:31 And indictment on America. Yeah, I will. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you watch a season of Survivor in America, and you have to like go over an obstacle course, right? Which maybe you have to climb ropes and like go down a slide in Australia. They had that same obstacle course, or obstacle course, obstacle course, but they put it on stilts, so it's 30 feet in the air. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So if you fall, you're breaking like three arms. Wow. You know, it's fucking, it's awesome. That's true. I've never, I've never watched a foreign season of, or another season of survival. The Australian like Jeff Probe's is cool. He's good. I was looking at the recorder. I didn't want you to think I was trying to wrap this up. Eric, I just thought the screen was off and I was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:52:16 no, it hasn't been recorded. You're like, okay, we can, we can probably start winding down. We're right around almost that 50 minute mark. So we probably want to start winding down anyway. What what you guys do this weekend? What did I do? Play baseball. Yeah, I actually went to Walnut Creek because I heard there were no locks on the fields. There's one with no lock, but someone was using it. So I had hopped my short fence, me and my buddy Andrew went out and we just threw heat. So like it was just throwing, we were trying to pitch, throw some curve balls and some slider stuff like that. So we did that on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:52:52 And then like the rest of the weekend was like, man, taking it easy. It was nice, not having anything to do on a weekend is like, that's killer. I started Halloween and this weekend, I built my- You started Halloween? Yeah, I built my Halloween village. What is that for?
Starting point is 00:53:06 Just to have for Halloween You looked at that you said what's that for yeah like what he made it's for decoration Tiny Halloween village you're gonna put that in your house. It's in my office. Yeah Why it's fun? I carved all the I carved all the mountains at a foam, and then I painted them and added grass, and all that. What's that? It's just decoration.
Starting point is 00:53:31 What's that? It's just decoration for. What purpose does this serve? It seems like a lot of work. Oh, is it for something you put up for two or three weeks, and then you have to keep it in storage. It just seems like work on top of work. You know, it just described holidays.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. Oh, I agree, I don't like holidays. That's exactly what I did. And what's even crazier is, this is actually, that's why I did it this weekend. I probably put 20 to 25 hours this weekend into that. And it's one of the days of the weekend. So it's gonna go, it'll be up for a month and a week
Starting point is 00:54:07 and then I'll take it down and then put up Christmas. Emily has way more Christmas shit than Halloween shit. I cover Halloween, I build the Halloween Village. She builds the Christmas Village. What Village do you build at home, guess? I can't, like, I'm still there to find. My mind is stuck on, so November 1st, it's time to get Halloween Village down.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Where does it go? I goes back in the boxes and then it goes into Tupperware's and then I put them in my storage unit. You have a storage unit. Yeah. See this what I was getting at. You pay money to store stuff. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I can't have a garage in my house. I can't do it, I cannot do that. If I, if I, there is something about me, I cannot bring myself to ever pay for a storage unit or to pay for storage. I had two storage units for about three years there. No, I don't, I don't. Oh my god. Well, I had mine and the nummies, but we can solidate it. To one storage unit. To one storage unit, yeah. If I'm graduation. If I can't find a place for my house, I don't fucking need it. Like, I did. I agree with you in principle.
Starting point is 00:55:02 But not in practice. But you still spent 25 hours building something. Oh look at this, oh we filled it. But it's easier to pay 170 bucks a month of tech. Oh my God, dude, I can't. But it's not just, it's not like I'm just storing my Halloween bill, it's just storing like extra bicycles. It's all shit, you don't need extra bicycles.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah, extra bicycles. Yeah, I got two out, two out. Why? Because I'm gonna maybe move, take him to mission. Maybe. Extra bicycles. Yeah, I got two out two out three. Because I'm gonna maybe move, take him to Michigan. Maybe. An extra furniture and stuff. How, so this is family- This is family-
Starting point is 00:55:31 It's ready. The house is ready. You pay two grand a year to store a bike. No, it's way more stuff than that. It's basically like Emily's entire life and my entire life sandwiched into one house. There was a bunch of shit left over. I got rid of everything I didn't want,
Starting point is 00:55:47 but there is an idea that we'll buy a bigger house today. Could you replace all that stuff for less than two grand? No. I don't know. There's a break even point here, I think you passed it. I got it. That's at least like $3,000 worth of Christmas or Halloween Village.
Starting point is 00:56:00 What? This is getting worse. Wait, how big is the Halloween Village? Those things are like 300 bucks a pop. You're making this way worse. I'm getting further and further off board here. Wait, why? Just, just, just cute.
Starting point is 00:56:12 How big is it? It's a, uh, uh, 48 inch round table. So... I thought it, I really thought it was... No, no, no. It looks massive. That's why I'm like, that's why I asked. I just thought it was at four.
Starting point is 00:56:24 It doesn't make sense. It's so big. like that's why I just I know that for it doesn't It's awesome. I thought I thought it was like a foot. I do a good job. Oh, we're not Do you understand the question? Yeah, what is that for we're not to crying your job? I think you did a great job It's for looking at See that's how it started see looked like that. Uh-huh, and now It looks like is great for a podcast. See, look at that. And now, it looks like. This is great for a bodget. You're a lunatic. It looks like that.
Starting point is 00:56:49 You have to send me this, because I have to post it. You're a fucking lunatic. Wow. You spent three grand just to then put it in storage and spend two grand a year. Yeah, but the bikes are there also. And sofa, there's sofa, there's some family heirlooms That just don't fit in the house right now. There's a bunch of lots of stuff
Starting point is 00:57:10 Man man that hurts me if I had a garage I would have all that shit in my garage, but I don't yeah, I don't have I don't know you want those people who would have a garage and then not park your car in it because you put storage now No, you still park your car car it. Garage is for the car. But it also holds a bunch of other shit. Okay. I have a lot of neighbors who refuse to put their cars in their garages.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I've noticed this, like their garages have become storage and they leave their cars outside. No, no. That is also a fear. No, I agree with that. And I would like to keep it in the little shed, I have a little shed in the back of my house. I would like to keep it in the little shed, I have a little shed in the back of my house,
Starting point is 00:57:45 I would like to keep it there, but once you put in the yard stuff, it's just, there's no room. These are built in another shed. She put the $2,000. Another shed, and then you have to move it for your pool. Well, I learned a lot. Speaking of stuff in storage,
Starting point is 00:57:59 Gus got those baseball cards, so we should figure that out. Oh yeah, yeah. That's not even all of them, by the way. Oh, right, that's just some of them. I found out that that's. Oh yeah, yeah. That's not even all of them, by the way. Oh, right. That's just some of them. I found out that's 40%. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's insane. What do we do with that? I don't know. Do you want to open them on a stream or what do you want to do? We're doing a break show this week. If you want to come on. What do we do? We might be recording another episode, like Meta Talk.
Starting point is 00:58:18 We might be recording another episode of Anima this week. I'd like to try to do it Friday if we can. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, we'll forget that. Well, I don't know, we'll do something with it. Yep. But now we should wrap up. But we need to get the guest's at the name.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I do like, Alexander Pitt has a good guess. A new Monday audio. No, I mean, that is a guess. I wouldn't say it's a good guess, but it is a guess. I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. I mean, I thought it was a good guess. Thanks, thanks Alex. Thanks, thanks, Alex.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But, no, thanks, Alex. I, animation or animation Austin, that's from Jeff. Not this Jeff. Not this Jeff, Jeff with a J. Okay, yeah, no, no, no, that's not happening. Okay, okay, this is the last guess that I'll give. This is from Hydman. Hydman?
Starting point is 00:59:03 H-Y-D-M-A-N. Hydman? Hydman. No, it's Hydman. Hydman? The H-Y-D-M-A-N. Hydman, Hydman. Okay. Now it's Hydman. My guess for the name, my guess guess for the name, way to go, man, is Austin, Mia Moore. No. Okay, we did, and the reason I guess that is because
Starting point is 00:59:19 we did find out that it is all in English. Yes, it is. There is no second language. That was Gus. No, I was talking with you. He's there. Yeah, it is. There is no second language. Correct. That was Gus. That was fucking with us. Yeah. How are you doing that? Jeff knows.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's funny because, oh, let me give a guess. So Gus told me, or told us last time that we hadn't guessed all of the words yet. And so I've decided I'm going to brute force this. So I'm just going to, I'm going to go through. So this week I'm gonna do a That way we're on a dictionary with you a Nubus mon senior acceptance these this is very good. That's a great. Yes, so we can Did you get?
Starting point is 00:59:56 Like Rumpel still skin over here on a fucking dissolve I'm just gonna go through every a in a words I can think of eventually we will eventually we'll get through them all we're almost there got it me. You know how many words are there in the dictionary? It's not that many tons. We were gonna talk this week about shipping DVDs in the early days. Oh, that's right. Then we didn't get. I'll I'll make a note of that, because it's not on my notes so that shipping DVDs. And he said we just decided to insult Jeff for storing, for not having a garage. That was only at the end.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And that's not because you did. I think a lot of people out there in the world have storage sheds. And I'm disappointed in all of them. I just can't fit everything in my house. Then you have too much stuff. Like that's the intrinsic core of the problem. If you can fit it in your house. Then you have too much stuff. Like that's the intrinsic core of the problem. If you can't fit it in your house, you don't fucking need it.
Starting point is 01:00:49 I still need my Christmas and my Halloween stuff. And all your extra bikes? Well, yeah, because I'm gonna take them up to Michigan when I buy the lake house. Fucking fuck. And I'm gonna have the whole my garage. When I buy the lake house in Michigan, I'll have half the furniture already.
Starting point is 01:01:02 It's in storage. It's already half furnished, Gus. And then he won't have to have a storage unit. But listen, he still will. I will. Listen, I can't wait until he buys his house in Michigan. Then he starts complaining about how none of his furniture goes with it.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And he has to buy your furniture. These bikes don't match my house. That's what is going to happen. Smiling because it just real life. It just real life. It's gonna happen. Well, it's pretty exciting. What are you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Well, if you wanna follow us for more, I guess Michigan house updates or coffee talk. Thank you, there's cost. You can't animal podcast, at animal podcast, on Instagram, on Twitter, follow us there, keep up to date with the show. I think we have merch coming eventually. I should probably check that down.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Thank you for listening. This was another good episode. This is episode 18, I think. We're getting through. Hey, episode 18 are 22nd episode, I believe. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's, there's, I love it. I love it. That's great.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Thank you for listening. Any parting words for the folks at home. Now we need to end this because I have diarrhea and I have got to get home. What? Yeah, I've been holding it in. Good to see you. I'm not going in the whole house. Someone's playing a fiddle. I'm not going in the whole house.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I think it's violent. Yeah, I've been holding it in. It's a better weather than that. I'm not going in the whole place. I'm playing a fiddle. I'm not going in the whole place. I think it's violent. Ha ha ha. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? All right, example. Together in Trempit hosts, Characombs, Characombs are free to deal
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