ANMA - The Night Gavin Saved the Company

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

Good Morning, Gus! In a return to form, Gus & Geoff are both in this episode as they get a cup at Genuine Joe's on Anderson Lane. Listen as they talk about some of the best hires in RT history, playing Halo 2 before it came out, Gus's parents first date, Frisco steakhouse, and how Secret Gus was actually Peak Gus. Do us a favor and tell a friend about ANMA. They can take a guess at the name but mostly check out the show. Remember that person you used to watch RvB with? Tweet them a link. This episode is sponsored by Dad Grass (http://dadgrass.com/ANMA). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's my 11th episode. Here the last time we talked... 10 actually the other ones are not canonical. Last time we talked it was just myself and... Yeah, that one doesn't count. I'm not getting a numbering. You don't number your audio recordings. I mean, yeah, right.

fart.wav. Thanks, man. Go. So we're at genuine Joe's coffee. Good morning, Gus. There it is. So we're at genuine Joe's coffee. I give you pause this time of year. We're at genuine Joe's coffee on Anderson., Gus. I know there it is. So we're at genuine Joe's coffee. I give you pause this time, you.

We're at genuine Joe's coffee on Anderson. I've never been here before. Do you come here often? I've been here once. I've been here only once, but I will say I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's very like 90s college coffee shop, which is what I'm into. I thought that's what you didn't like about flight path.

No, the thing I don't like about flight path and be new for that matter is that everybody is studying and they appear very busy. Like a college coffee shop. Yeah, but I'm like a college coffee shop where people fuck off and talk about like Sarcha and wear braze and are like trying to pick up chicks and do use. So you like the potential

of a coffee shop without the actual coffee shop. I like the coffee shop. A studious nature. There's two different kinds of coffee shops you go to. One where nerdy people go to learn and one where other people go to socialize. So putting on a parade and talking about Sartre as not nerdy, is that what you're saying?

No, that's a different kind of nerdy. No way, you're all over the place. You don't make any sense. No, so you know what I mean? If you can't say anything of flight path, it's, it'd be like, it was like a library. It was like a library in there. It's fine in there.

People are having their morning conversation. The guy, it was like a library. It was like a library in there. What's going on there? People are having their morning conversation. Eric, what? It was quiet, there was a guy with colored pencils, but I will say it was very relaxed. The guy who served us the coffee was like, what the fuck's up, man? It was like that kind of stuff. So it's a much chiller vibe

that you go to B-New or a flypad. I agree with that. All right. It felt the same to me. You like the B-New flypad vibe because you, if you could live in a library, you would, because you like utter silence. You don't want people communicating in or around or to...

I don't want people communicating to me, that's the big one. It was such a long pause where he went, am I pushing back on this? Right, I didn't think about it. I'll let it slide, I'll let it be. So, we, I don't know if we've actually done any episodes in this part of town. I know we recorded a testing forever go at the, the entire place down the road.

Some remain, some remain. But I don't think we've actually been up here. We're on Anderson. We're not too far from the Alamo Village, which is down the road from here, which have we talked about the Alamo Village on this podcast before? I don't, I don't, I feel like we might have covered

back the days when we were doing RVB showings. I think maybe we did that with between Alamo and downtown and Village. It was the second Alamo ever. The first one of course was downtown, which is not there anymore. So I guess now it's the oldest Alamo that's still in operation.

And I still remember, like when the announcement, when they announced that they were gonna open up this second location, I don't know if you remember this, but they would play these bumpers at the old Alamo downtown, where it was like, Draft House Henry was getting up on a ladder, and he, remember of the old sign for the village, and he put up the letters

that set Alamo on the marquee out here, because it was just the village theater. Oh really? Yeah, and it was like, oh, that's the second location, they're gonna have it up there at the Alamo Village. And it's weird to think like in those early days, like thinking about the Alamo specifically, you made me think about Draft House Henry,

like to think about like the faces that the Alamo had and like the personalities that they had controlling or not controlling, but as like their marketing driving that. Yeah, driving a lot of the messaging for the Alamo. And you don't, since they've grown so much, obviously, you can't scale that, like a lot of that's gone. Like maybe think about Henry and how we used to hang out.

There was like a window in time where we would hang out with him. He went to my wedding. Yeah. You know, I saw him at a Christmas party three years ago, like right before pandemic, and it was incredibly awkward. In, I couldn't, I couldn't have gotten the impression that he wanted to talk to me less.

It was really weird. Really? Yeah, love the guy, I love them. And it was just, it was just like two people that kind and knew each other a long time ago, reconnecting and it was awkward. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Right, right, right.

That's really good of me that night too, who knows? I always assume it's me personally. Yeah, but yeah, it's just a trip to think back like that. Really funny, dude. Yeah, absolutely. You remember, I think the first time we played Halo 2, like the official launch release copy of Halo 2 was at his house. Yeah, he had a he got a copy of it like a day or two before the street date because they were doing something at the Alamo with it.

And it was like a big deal. We went over to his house and hung out. I don't remember where it was, somewhere over on the east side. I do know where it is actually, yeah. I'll tell you, I'll tell you off. Okay, yeah. You want me to show it right now?

And we went, he didn't live there anymore, but yeah. It was part of that, I remember it was part of that whole, like I love bees stuff. Yeah. They were doing like a lot of promotion for it back then. Man, it's just weird all those memories thinking about. You know, it's funny, it's funny to me, because I remember when the village,

Alama opened up, and at first I felt like it was on the other end of the world. Yeah, it was so, we lived. What we said, this, yeah, first. We're South Austin, we were living in Riverside and shit. And Austin was so much smaller back then in terms of just how far you'd be willing to travel. But now, and it was also, purely by my bias, I think, but it felt like a lesser version

of the Allemoe. Like I was never crazy about that one. Now it's my favorite Alamo because it's the only one that still feels like the Alamo. I mean, they all do. But it has like, it still feels like you're walking into the original Alamos when you go to the village in a way you don't get the other ones. It's definitely my favorite one, to go to. It just, it feels like they show the most, other places will show stuff. This one feels like it shows the most off the wall stuff.

And I like the seating. Yeah, it feels like an old theater where it's not like the big scoop, like theater, huge seating. It's just like, buy a ticket, sell a floor. The seating definitely still has the vibe. I mean, you're not sitting in crack to leather black sofas in the back, like the still has the vibe. I mean, you're not sitting in cracked leather black

sofas in the back, like the very first Alamo, but it still had, it kind of has the same setup. And I kind of feel that way about this part of town. I never really wanted to come this far north because everything that we did was south, and there was no reason to. And now, I've talked about this with Gus personally, because I live a little further north than I used to.

Further north than I ever have in Austin. This is the part of Austin that still feels like old Austin to me. Well, Crestview, Brentwood, Anderson, North Loop, like this little corridor has the most, like the Austin that I fell in love with in 1994, that flavor. This area that we're in is between two other areas

we've mentioned, and you mentioned it right now, like that North Loop area and also like parts of Burnett, but Burnett is really changing a lot. Like this is between that, like connects all those other parts of town. There's like a ribbon that runs through Austin of that. But I want to, if you don't mind, I want to step back for a second. Yeah, please. Thinking about the Alamo Village and when they opened it, I remember when they announced that they were opening the second location, being puzzled, like, why the fuck do they need the location? Yeah. Like, what's the point of it? location being puzzled like why the fuck do they need the location yeah like what's what's the point of it

Not realizing how much better it could be yeah because back then the original alamo was just that one screen in a flat The room was totally flat and it was it was not an ideal experience at all like here They actually have multiple at the village have multiple screens They could also show newer movies in addition to just you, a specific old programming like they really did at the the Drafthouse downtown. I know I was just puzzled like why the hell would they open another location? I was just there yesterday or yeah, two days ago. Love it. So I top gun finally. But I didn't know that you're from fighter town, USA. Yeah. Did you know that I've never heard that before. There's so much of that movie where I'm like, beat, the beat, oh, that's it. Oh, cool. All right, great. It's all on like the Navy base.

It's great. Yeah, that's a beautiful San Diego, California. Play a lot of beach volleyball. Not a lot. What about beach football? No, but that's usually what you do when you go to the beach. But there's a lot less water. I mean, if you're a water adjacent.

Yeah, that's true. That's, you don't have to get in the water to play beach football, but you throw it around and you get tackled and then you and your friends just like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, get off of me. Don't kiss me twice. Like, Gus has a novel pulled up on an iPad. What was that?

It's just reference. It's just, no, no, no, it's like for other stuff we're potentially gonna talk about down the road. I started, so since we've been doing anmo for a few weeks now. Whenever I drive around. Some of us all the road. This is it. I started, so since we've been doing on for a few weeks now. Whenever I drive home. Some of us all the episodes. Whenever I go out, those are non-canonical.

Whenever I'm driving around town, like I'll see stuff that'll remind me of something I'll like think about until I park, or I get home, I have to make a note of it on my phone, like something to potentially talk about. For example, the other day I was driving down Lamar, like close to over there by six in Lamar, and passed by what used to be a GNM steakhouse?

A GNM. It's empty now. It's like, it's got a four-least sign on it. What was it? It was like counterculture? No, it was countercafe. It was GNM steakhouse. Then it became countercafe.

And then they eventually opened a second location, third and a third. And I think they closed that one. Because there's one at like Guadalupe and then one on the sixth. But the interesting thing, the reason I wrote it down to talk about it, specifically in the GNM Steakhouse era, was there was a period of time where, even though it was the GNM Steakhouse, the sign-out sites had GNM Steakhouse,

it was two restaurants. Yeah. During the day, it was GNM Steakhouse, and you'd go in and whatever. It was an iconic place. It was the greasiest of greasy spoons, Eric. Like a lunch counter, it had three tables inside and a lunch counter, very small. And at the end of dinner service, at the end of the night,

it would close down, and then at midnight, it would reopen. And it was a place called Rito's Slighters. And it was just like, this dude, name was Rito, and he'd sit there, and he'd, all he did was make sliders. You go in, you'd order like six sliders or whatever, he'd sit there and eat all he did was make sliders you go in you to order like Six sliders or whatever you sit there and eat them and it was fucking delicious He would only it was only open from like Midnight to 5 a.m. Or something. Yeah, and that didn't I feel like that window was pretty short, too It was like a year to maybe yeah, where was this where they're like bars around it and stuff like why would you have like

Sixth and Lamar kind of but next to where a waterloo records is you would I you it's right next to 25 or diner If you know where that is yeah, yeah, okay cross from like book people yeah kind of clinics to worry waterloo records is? You would, it's right next to 25-hour diner, if you know where that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It crossed from like book people. Yeah, kind of. But like, that's not like a super bar. No. No.

Especially not back then. No, so. What six was not built out like how it is now. So why did he have a midnight restaurant? Well, I wonder why I didn't last. Yeah. Well, what happened was, I believe the people who ran G&M's take how successful he was, then they didn't renew his lease,

then they started opening at midnight to try to sell sliders and no one ever went back. Oh, really? Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, it was like one of those restaurants that was lost to time.

I only found out about Ritos from Jason. I don't know how Jason found, Jason always had like, just think around the pulse of Austin. Jason was so much cooler than us. Yeah, in terms of like no one shit. We should get him on pretty soon because he knows so much more about Austin. Okay, someone has to text him.

I don't have his number or and I've never met him. So, never met Jason. No, when would I have met Jason? I'm not a comic-con or something, maybe. Uh-uh, I don't think so. So someone's got to text him and be like, hey, come on this podcast. All right, I'll text him.

I had breakfast with him that's all I got. Okay, I think he would be like, hey, come on this podcast. All right, I'll text him. I had breakfast with him. That's all I got. Okay. I think he would be a great first guest. I think I think getting him and find a spot. I think that would be a lot of fun. Yeah. Uh, he was funny. Whenever like place like Ritos, you know, Jason would, would clue you into. Also, if you were looking for a place to live or a car, he would help you find it. Dude, like that, like I know that sounds weird,

but Jason could find stuff in Austin. But he knew it. That's a joke. The house that I lived in for 11 years where Millie was born up until I got divorced. He found that house. I didn't forgot about that until just now. Like he texted it to me and I was like,

I sent it immediately to my real estate agent because I was looking and I bought the house the day he sent me. I put it off for him the house, the day he sent me the listing. But that reminds me also, I don't know if you remember this. You never had to deal with this person, but there was this apartment locator in Austin, who I used a couple of times back before I bought a house. And he was one of the strangest people I've ever met,

but he had this uncanny ability, just like in talking to you and getting to know you, to figure out exactly what you wanted and where you wanted to live. Like you would get in his car and his car was like, why? Listen, you would get in his car, trust me, this whole story's wild.

His car looked like a hoarder lived in it. There were papers all over everywhere in the car, like real estate contracts, like leases, and like everywhere. It was like a file cabinet exploded in his car. And he would start driving around Austin and he would just start talking to you. And you would ask you typical questions,

like where do you want to live, how big of a place do you want. But also like how long you lived in Austin, what kind of car are you driving? Just like all this stuff, you drive around in this car for an hour, aimlessly. And I remember he would be looking at people, and you know, you would stop at a red light, and there'd be like a homeless dude holding up a sign, and he'd be like, that guy's sign changed. It was different earlier.

And he'd be like, then you would read it out loud, be like, okay. And then you drive around for an hour, then you'd be like, I know the perfect place for you. And he'd drive straight to it, and you'd be like, this place is awesome. This is exactly what I wanted. It's the price I want, it's the location I want, it's everything I want. It'd be like one place and done. You'd have to drive around talking to the dude for an hour,

but then after an hour, you'd be like, this place is amazing. I absolutely want to live here. And I remember, how many of your partners did you find? Did you find that guy? Two, but I remember I also referred Monty to him when Monty first moved to Austin. You know Monty was very much like, let's just get this over with,

like no nonsense kind of guy. And I was like, listen, you got to drive around with this guy for an hour, but he's gonna find the perfect place for you. And I can't imagine Monty giving anybody an hour like that. That's why I set it up. I was like, you got to have to go to this process. And then like the next day Monty came in to work,

it was like, you were right, I just drove around with a guy for an hour. He's like, I felt like it was a waste of time. Then he took me to like the perfect place. And it's like, I signed at least that day on the spot. I will say, I know the place Monty lived when he first moved Austin and it was perfect for him. Yeah, I mean like 100% I can see it in my head right now. I know exactly where it is.

Yeah. It's absolutely perfect for him. It was, it was, he had this supernatural ability to help you find exact, even if you didn't know what you were looking for, just in talking to you, whatever passive conversation, I remember like I said,

I found two different places with him. I found the first one then like, three years later, the South Place in your North Place. No, the first one was the place off of Infield. Okay. The second one was the house that I rented off of Lake Austin.

And I remember like I lived in that apartment on Enfield for like three years, and then I called him again for the new place, and he still remembered me. He picked me up, he's like, oh, you should have that blue truck? How are your pets? You're like, didn't miss a beat. Yeah, everything, he remembered everything, like three years later, after our one hour conversation. And then, so at the second time, I was driving around for like 15 minutes.

And he was like, OK, here, I know another part of place for you. He took me to the house like, OK, great. Love it. That's a dude who knows Austin better than I ever will jealous of that guy. He I still see him occasionally. Like I was driving down the street randomly a couple of years ago. And I was like, he was out front of a house water. He was like, Oh, shit, he must live there. He actually not too far in that direction right over here

uh You just told the most Austin Texas story I've ever fucking heard like I think that's what people move here Hoping is going to happen to them. Yeah, I just drove around in a guy's car for an hour And he went the perfect place And it's not like it was a nice car. It was like, I mean, it was like a mid-90s camera like nothing fancy. Like, I mean, not like it was like a shitty car.

And he's just like, it was a very forgettable, very plain car, just filled with tons of real estate paperwork. That is definitely the kind of city that I move to that I fell in love with that Austin is not anymore. Yeah, for sure. Well, now it's all, it's weird to me because I move to, that I fell in love with, that Austin Hell is not anymore. Yeah, for sure. Well, now it's all, it's weird to me, because I feel like if every apartment complex that's being built is a luxury apartment,

what does that mean anymore? Like what's not a luxury apartment at this point? Is it like a place that isn't new? It's either luxury or efficiency, that's the only two options. Yeah, like every apartment complex gets built and they put a stupid name on it and it has luxury apartments.

Who gives a fuck? Man, it's crazy to me, we talk about how many people are moving here and how much it's changing and growing, which, you know, this is not a Austin used to be better podcast. No, not at all. We are not cynical in any way whatsoever. I love Austin today, just as much as I loved it today,

I moved here maybe even more, just differently. But I'm continually surprised, because I'll walk into my kids' room and should be watching YouTube, she's 16, almost 17, or TikTok, and she'll every time she'll be like, oh, look at this dude, he's hilarious, he's my new favorite TikToker, and I'll be like, is that an quadaloupe?

And she's like, oh yeah, he lives in Austin. I'm like, how many followers is this TikToker have? And she's like, oh, like 50 million. And I've never heard of him, she's like, and he's like, yeah, you moved Austin three months ago. And then I'll have a whole crew, and I'll be watching YouTube video, and then I'll have like, rooster teeth style productions going on

with full crews and stuff. And they'll just be like, I don't know, in Hyde Park. And it's so weird how pervasive the new media world is just hitting Austin right now. And how that was us 20 years ago. And now we're the fucking dinosaurs. Yeah, we are absolutely dinosaurs. But we talked about it even back then.

You know, we never, at the time, you know, we never, we didn't understand why people felt that magnetism and that pull to go to like LA to get shit on. Right. And I mean, I guess I kind of understand it now. You know, there's a lot more infrastructure. There's a lot more built out for that. But it's like, you can live at the time. You could live cheaper.

You could live for 300 bucks a month and also that's a lot of day. Yeah, I'm much, you know, being here in Austin versus being out there, which is why we just stayed here, you know, and just kept making our stuff here as opposed to moving out somewhere. And you know, granted out there, you make it, it's a lot easier to make connections.

And, you know, we also, like like have we talked much about like our draw like the why the wise of why we fell in love and why we were drawn to it. Like I don't know for me it was all film related right. Like Robert Rodriguez was here. Yeah. Wes Anderson was here. Like I was a huge bottle rocket fan when I was in the army and that made me want to move here.

Richard Lincoln. You know, I saw Slacker and that's why I wanted to live in Austin because I wanted to live where people, I wanted to live around people who drove around in cabs and talked like that all day long. That was not going on in Alabama. But there was this huge entrepreneurial film scene and entertainment scene in Austin back in the 90s

that I think it kind of gets forgotten about. But it's where a lot of independent film really found its footing in that time, I think, you know. Even the people like Quentin Tarantino who didn't get their start here fell in love with Austin and then started to bring that scene into Austin through their love of the city, you know. Yeah, they filmed the death proof here. Yeah, death proofs. Was it wearos and then a text killer? Texturely part. Texturely part. Yeah, they filmed a death proof here. Yeah, death proofs. Was it wearos and then I take a chili part.

Texturely probably. Yeah, I mean, I think for me, you know, I grew up really isolated in really small time. There was no way I could watch a small independent film out there. But for me, it was a lot more than entrepreneurial stuff. And I kind of touched on that some of the early episodes about wanting to come here and do something on the internet and didn't not having the money to move to California where, you know, all of that stuff was really popping. And I thought, you know, I'm making it, making it happen in Austin. Yeah. internet and didn't have the money to move to California where all of that stuff was really popping.

I thought, you know, making it happen in Austin. Then growing up, like where I lived growing up, it was such a small town. The closest, like real city was San Antonio. It was like a two and a half hour drive away. And San Antonio was fine, but it's like, yeah, you drive another hour up to up 35 and you're in Austin. I like, I always liked Austin a lot more. Yeah.

And I was born here. And I don't really remember. I'm family moved away when I was like four. I have like some very vague memories of it from being a lot more. Yeah. And I was born here. And I don't really remember. I'm family moved away when I was like four. So I have like some very vague memories of it from being a little kid, but you know, it always drew me back. I'd always visit when I was young. And my favorite thing to do when I would visit Austin

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Emily loves to bring inner tubes to Barton Springs. Yes, yes. to float in our little inner tubes. And it's the best that we were just trying to beat the heat yesterday for a little bit, give Millie out of the house, and find something to do with my mom. And so we were just like hanging out of Barton Springs and floating, and then these two dudes started screaming at each other, and then one dude got up on a hill, like on the hill, on the free side of Barton Springs, and was yelling at the dude, and then the dude chased him up the hill a little bit, and then the dude on the hill threw a beer at the dude and

hit him in the head, and then the dude went up and smacked him, and then the other dude ran away into the woods for a while, and then he came back, and then eventually, like, eventually like a plain closed cop came and took care of it, but they probably fought for 15 minutes and nobody was stopping them. Just kids around, families around, you know, it was fucking weird. Do you think maybe they were drunk? Well, it was noon on a Sunday, so probably. So I think the heat makes people insane.

It was like 104 yesterday. Yeah, that's true. It explains a lot about Texas. Talk about Barton Springs real quick, because if you're not from here, I don't think people know what that is. Because you said Barton Springs and Bargons Springs, which I think is such a great fucking name.

So Barton Springs is a place just south of the river. It is a natural Fred's Fed Springs. It's in Zilker Park. It's in Zilker Park. And it's a paid pool, essentially. It's huge. There's a diving board. It has the appearance of like a big kind of pool cut into line. It's like a big rectangular swimming pool. Yeah, and it's like fucking huge. And you go and you pay like five bucks and you can swim there all day. And the wild thing about it is it's right in the middle of the park. I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like, I think you're like,

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I feel like you see it on like postcards. You see like a very postcard. Tourism photos of Austin, it looks like people are in a big swimming pool. It's probably Barton Springs. And there's a fence because it's a spring and then the water filters out into this free side which we call Bargons Springs

or Barking Springs because people take their dogs there. And it's just like the runoff from that. You can go and People will get there like seven in the morning and set up a grill in the water Yeah, and they'll bring like 30 dogs and like fucking boom box and just go to town all day long Well, the people that paid five dollars are on the other side listen to it It's always a wild time and you should not bring your dog there right now Do not let your dogs in the water in Austin because there is poisonous algae that will kill them

Yes, and people are still bringing their dogs there and I just see these poor fucking dogs running around in Barking Springs all day yesterday thinking that they're good. It's a death sentence. Yeah I just spend a lot of time there back God when was it back at my Maybe it was between jobs, or maybe when I was working at the place downtown before Rooster Teeth? It was when you were working at the place downtown

that right after. Because I, like, it was a traveling job and my days off were Tuesday and Wednesday. So I would go down like in the morning in the summer and I would take like a computer book to try to learn something and just like lay there in the sun and read, because I was trying to get a better job or trying to get it to move to a new place to get better paid.

You also did that you were swimming early in the morning, too, you were doing laps or something. Downs way and rear plates. Hang out. But I haven't been back there, probably since I've been since 2001, 2002, since I've been down there to Barton Springs. So that's a tip, too. If you come to Austin and you want to go to Barton Springs,

you can go to the much dirtier free side bargain Springs There are snakes and people Drunk at 9 a.m. Throwing beer cans at each other But if you want to go to bark, uh, bark and space You've got to go to Barton Springs and you don't want to pay. It's free for an hour in the morning like from 8 to 9 for free swimming And then at night from like 8 p.m. to 9 p.m. Yeah, it's free as well The water is like a constant temperature is like 68 degrees. Yeah, it's very cold.

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I heard it on a Reddit. He read it on a break part. It's gotta be true. It was like a warming, they had like a warming center there. Yeah. I'm really surprised that I don't take you for a guy that would go to Barton Springs. Well, I guess it's 2001. Yeah, I haven't been in like 20 years. I guess I'm, I guess I'm really surprised that I don't take you for a guy that would go to Barton Springs. Well, yes, it meant the 2001.

Yeah, I haven't been in like 20 years. I guess I guess I'm right. So I guess I'm right. It just like at all. It was different. Now like it being able to go there, like I hated it on the weekends, because it gets so crowded.

But that's why I would go, since my weekend was Tuesday and Wednesday, it was less crowded. It was a ploy to just like be outside, you know, without having to deal with a huge crowd of people yet. Yeah. It was just a lot easier.

Plus, also, the city was like half the size back then. I was the same way, though. I didn't go to Barton Springs from probably around then, like 2000, 2001. I think I took Millie once when she was like three. And I don't think I had been until the pandemic. I started going at the tail end of the pandemic just to get out of the house again.

And like, also, like once I I got sober I lost like half of the things I used to do in Austin. So I had to find new shit. So I started swimming again. That makes sense. I like swimming. It's like one of those tourist things that is the reason you move to a city and then after you've lived in the city for a year you never do it again. The only time I've ever been to Barton Springs is when we went with you. Yeah. And it was cool. I had a good time. But what you just said about, like, you lived here for a year and like that shine kind of wears off.

That's exactly how it feels where it's like, I don't go down to the welcome to Austin graffiti sign on the side of the building and take a picture all the time, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. You've been welcomed already. You're done. So we were talking about apartments and apartment

locators and luxury apartments earlier. And maybe think about something I wanted to bring up. Years ago when we worked at the call center, we played in a softball league. It was like a municipal softball league, the city ran it. And it was down at Creek Field, which is like off of Pleasant Valley, just south of the river. Yeah. So there were secret beaches. Yeah. A was. Yeah. And we played, beaches. Yeah. Yeah.

And we played, we participated in that league for two years and we never won a game. We came really close one time. We were winning and then we blew it in the bottom of the inning and the last inning. And we lost. But that complex back then, that softball or that baseball complex was a lot bigger.

There were tons of fields. Now there's only like two or three. It's really worth even more. It's about half the size it was. But it used to be really huge and they bulldozed most of it to build apartments. And then for the funny thing to me was after they, well, when they built those apartments,

they called them the ballpark. And I feel like, yeah, if you weren't here and you don't know that's the story behind it, you wouldn't know that's why they built those apartments, they called them the ballpark. And I feel like, yeah, if you weren't here and you don't know that's the story behind it, you wouldn't know that's why they called those apartments the ballpark. It was like the dumbest thing to me. Like why not call it literally anything else? Because like the fields that are left

aren't even really accessible from those apartments. Yeah. And they're tearing those down now anyway. Are they really? Yeah, they're all empty now. And they're gonna build mixed retail and apartments down there. So they're gonna bulldoze, those apartments that have only been there for 20 years?

20 years? If that. No, it's been probably in 2022, years, something like that. They haven't even been there that long. They're gonna bulldoze all of them and rebuild everything there. Like, almost directly across the street from there, is a place that used to be called,

it was like a super Mercado. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and before that, it was a movie theater called the Aquarius in like the, I don't think I ever saw it as a movie theater. I think it was always the Mercado when I lived here. I think the Aquarius had closed down, maybe in the 90s or maybe around the time I moved here.

But I always remember that movie theater because your dad and your mom went on their first date. How did you know that story? You told me. Gus's dad and his mom, their first date was to the movie at the Aquarius, and I guess that's 70s. Yeah. And I always, like, you told me that story 25 years ago, and I think about it every time I drive the 70s. Yeah. And I always, I like, you told me that story 25 years ago

and I think about it every time I drive by that place. Oh yeah, they, yeah, they, I don't remember what movie it is that they saw, but yeah, their first date was there at that movie theater. Yeah, he is so indignant when you brought it up. I think no, because I was gonna bring it up. That I was like, oh, I'm gonna segue into that. I didn't mean to steal your stuff.

He stole my story. That might have been the night Gus' conceived. Maybe. Might have been in that theater. Back in the set. Been in a hell of a date with it. Across from that, there was a place called Champions. Dude, Champions.

I still don't know what they did. I think it was a storage shith, the silver. I think it was like home improvement stuff. But the font made it look like the best fucking sandwich.. I want it. I want to eat a sandwich from champions I don't sell them, but I want to eat one I had like I would drive by and get every time I would see that red champions sign I'm on mouth with water and I'd be like I want a hoagie so bad from champions and they're like yeah We don't do that you just store your crap here

You ever had that like there was a place Um, dude, I know where you're. You just store your crap here. You ever had that like, there was a place, I didn't know I was that right. Where you go? Next to Sandys on Barton Springs. It was like Barton Springs. It was like a nursery or something. There's a place called the Enchanted Flourist.

There was a. And it was a florist, like a little glass building. And it looks like the most charming Italian restaurant. And you just want to walk in and be like, sit down at a little table with check, with a checkerboard or red tablecloth and just eat a big bowl of spaghetti. And they won't do it because they don't sell spaghetti because they just sell plants.

And you're just like, please, please flip this into an Italian restaurant. It looks like the food there would be amazing. Oh, amazing. Those are the two top of the list of places that aren't restaurants that I wanted to eat at in Austin. I'm trying to look up and see what champions was. I can't find the sign. I looked up the sign to see if I could find it.

It was like an orange font. It was like orange or red, yeah. I had like a big, like a big cursivey C and then champions, but it wasn't cursive. It was like 70s. Man, that's awesome. I'll see if I can find it later. I don't want to talk about it. You know they made their own sweet peppers there and they're fucking good. They're probably so good.

It's funny when you see a building that you think should be one thing and it's not. It's always a restaurant. I always see buildings like, man, I want to eat there. It's like they don't have food there. Hey, we talked about GNM lounge earlier. And we are, or GM steakhouse, not GNM lounge.

We talked about GNM lounge a while back. GNS lounge. GNS lounge. We talked about GN, GM lunch a while back. GM S lunch. GM S lunch. We talked about GM lunch earlier. Fuckin' Christ almighty. We talked about GM stay-cows earlier. You alright, cut all that or what? What happened?

No, we gotta keep a stroke on this episode. I want my decline to be documented. I think it already has been every step of the way. Yeah, I think we got it. So then people can put that later, they can go like, oh no, here's all the puzzle pieces. Look at how they fit. All the warning signs were there.

How did they not do anything about it? It was so obvious. Someone do something. And I think I teased this last time, but do you want to talk about, because we are in the part of town. Do you want to talk about your favorite restaurant of all time in Austin?

Which one? Risco. Oh, I thought you were saying Chiladas in Moscow, they're gone. I've never been in Chiladas before. I only want their ones. It was fine. So, there was a restaurant. Well, you ever see those frozen dinners?

God, they were popular back in the 60s, 70s, Nighthawk, Nighthawk frozen dinners? Okay. Be like a Salisbury steak. Yeah, right, right, right. Well, they had restaurants. Yeah, Nighthawk had restaurants. And there used to be a couple of them in Austin, and I don't know if it's an Austin company or what,

but I believe the last one was the Frisco. It was a Nighthawk restaurant. And years ago, before we lived here, I think back in the 70s, they were down on South Congress. Then they moved somewhere else on Burnett, oh, there was where the Walgreens is now, like at Burnett in 2222, then when they built that Walgreens, they had to move,

so then they moved over here kind of by, I don't know, by that moss dealership. Kind of by like Leslie, if you know our Leslie's pool, it's right by there. Yeah, right by there. And it was like this old diner kind of place that served food that you would, you could see being a frozen meal.

Yeah. Not that the food was bad, it's just like you could see it being packaged up and sold as a frozen meal in a grocery store. But I used to love that place, but I was worried about it because the clientele was all like 80 year old people. And the staff was older.

Yeah, and you would go in and I'd be like, man, I'm the only person who, I don't wanna say that, that's too insensitive. What? You'd walk into that place, you'd be like, man, I'm the only person who was born after World War II. And they had great pie, tons of like real great, like Diner Food, you get like a chicken fried steak

or, you know, whatever. And they were around for years, probably since the 40s, I think. And then just, what was it like two years ago, maybe at the start of the pandemic, they finally like shut down. And they're gone now. That was the last, as far as I know, that was the last night hawk, who's the, what was it like, two years ago, maybe at the start of the pandemic, they finally shut down, and they're gone now. That was the last, as far as I know, that was the last night hawk,

it was called the Frisco, it was called the Frisco Steakhouse. It was called Steakhouse. Cool sign. Yeah, they had a really cool sign, and like, I don't know, just like this, oh great old piece of history that's just gone. Not that, that last location was very, they were only there for a couple of years.

I only ate there twice, and I never got it. I never liked it the way you did. You love their pies. You're always, you're a pie advocate. Yeah, they're like a big cooler. You know, I like at a diner like that big refrigerated case with pies at the register. You can get like a whole pie or slice a pie.

It was one of the last places you could go in Austin though and have a waitress with big hair. Yeah. Like we, there's like a 40% chance her name is actually flow. You know, it's definitely definitely a, there's not a lot of like, I would say not like, like now's, but I don't think their diners open anymore.

I haven't been to a lot of places that have that foot in the past like that anymore. Yeah, there's a drug store over on Westlin in Clarksville, Eric called NOWS. NA US. NA US. In a Poster's NOWS. And it is, it's just an old, just a drug store.

Like you would go to buy orthopedics support and like a foot bath or something. And in the very back, there's a little lunch counter that serves hamburgers and shakes. And it is like, it is unchanged since want to say the 40s or cookies. Yeah, like you picture like a soda jerk, you know, or like a do like a little paper hat on his head, you know, asking if you want a maltid. Uh, like that's the kind of place it was.

But then they would like, they had this really bad habit. I don't know if you remember this, I love now. This is great. This is great. They were great, great people, but they had a really bad habit. Like they were very clean with that place. Yeah. I love Nause. This is great. They were great. Great good people, but they had a really bad habit. Like they were very clean with that place. Yeah.

But they had a bad habit of like wiping everything down with like some kind of bleach solution. Smells terrible. Smells terrible. And it would get on the straws. Oh. Like I felt like my straw always smelled like chlorox. They also had a bad habit of terrible fucking service.

Yeah. The last time I tried to eat there, I think I waited 45 minutes and nobody had taken my order yet and so I left them with the cipalinas or whatever. Yeah, it's like a talent place, right on the road. Yeah, right down the road. But just like the most charming, wonderful, like you feel like you're eating a burger

and drinking a malted in 1948. It's just, it's really cool experience. Except I could sit at the counter. Yeah, except Gus could sit at the counter Yeah, except guns considered the counter here in theory different But I anyway they they had shut that thing down before the I think they had staffing problems or something They had shut it up before the pandemic. I don't know if it's come back or it's funny when you see place like that like now I'm now and Frisco where the clientele is all really old the staff is all, you're like, oh man, I see the writing on the wall for this place, I don't know how much longer it's got.

Like you said, one foot in the past, kind of stuck there for better or for worse. It's not gonna make that transition to whatever's next. Yeah, I guess part of the thing about the transitory nature of the Austin populace, right, is like you've got those nostalgia restaurants that have kind of one foot in the past and everybody loves them because they have

these foreign memories, but as those people move and new people come in and have no connection to it, and it's hard to find those places if you don't know about them. And so many new people are moving here all the time. Yeah, and like they're not getting, nobody's advertising, hey, come check out this place, it's been around since the 40s.

And so they just, they lose their clientele and there's no way to replenish it, I guess. It's funny, I think about that sometimes in the context of roosteries. Okay. And about how we, their stories and history to the company that we take for granted, because we've been here the whole time.

But the audience churns and stuff that we may assume they know, they don't necessarily know, or stuff that's just been forgotten or lost to time. Yeah. Like, I was thinking the other day, that's a beautiful audio texture from that MoPet. I was thinking just the other day about how we had this big fight back in the early days. I want to say it was back like, oh, five, oh six maybe. Is this the fight? No, no, no, no, no. Okay. We had a big fight because when we first started, we didn't have any banner Is this the fight? No, no, no, no, no. We had a big fight because when we first started, we didn't have any banner ads on the website. And I was very firmly against banner ads.

I was like, dug my heels in. I hated seeing, this is still early enough on the internet where like banner ads were really starting to proliferate. And I hated seeing banner ads on websites. I did not want them. And it was like, everyone trying to argue with me and me just holding out me like, no, absolutely, we cannot have banner ads on the website. Like argument went on for weeks.

And finally, you know, of course, you know, everyone else, obviously that way, me, I can't be enough of an asshole to stop everyone, you know, you sure can try that. I tried. Especially when you were younger and had more like, I had them invigorating. Oh, God, you, yeah, you did not want to deal with that shit. I don't want to deal with that shit. But eventually, cooler heads prevailed and banner ads weren't used to the website, but there was this carve out that we did,

where we said we're gonna put banner ads on the website, but if you're, what's now our first member, if you're a sponsor on the website, you could have a banner ad on our website too. You can just submit an image you want for the banner ad and a link and we'll manually approve them. And 10% of our banner ads will be community banner ads. That's a great compromise.

That is a great idea. Yeah, and so fantastic. We ran it that way for a long time. Yeah, for years, like 10% of the ads you saw were from the community. For whatever, you know, a thread on the forum that you thought was going to be like. Or'd be like just like a happy birthday Carl from your best friend Stud 62 or whatever you know, yeah, and it's like so example

Yeah, tons of like really great ads, you know people linking to whatever You know, it was kind of a pain in the ass since we did have to manually look at all of them and manually approve them But I thought it was a great compromise and that's the kind of thing I think that people probably don't remember anymore. Or one of those things that's been lost to time that probably we don't even really think about anymore at this point, because it's been so long. Well, it goes into the whole like,

the complaint about us becoming more corporate over time and not doing stuff with and for the community anymore. But it just became a function of the sheer volume of things. It grew so quickly that it just became impossible. Yeah, it was already practically untenable when we launched it. It was a full-time job to go through and look at all of them and approve them on top of every other full-time job we already had. Yeah, that was the shit that you were doing.

I don't know about you, but it was the shit that I was doing at like one a.m. in bed on a Tuesday night while I couldn't sleep. Yeah. Because it was like, that was the time you had to do it. No, time to go through the the ad queue and approve them. We talked a little bit about that in the last episode when you weren't here. It was just sort of the nature of the expansion of the company and how it was started by you guys.

And then it's like, you don't work together anymore because the amount of stuff that you're doing for your job You don't really like kind of any place. Yeah, and I think that that's a great example of like when it's like everybody's job It's nobody's job and so it's a thing that everyone just kind of does but nobody really does and and that's Part of that expansion where rooster teeth becomes more corporate. It's really just like we're expanding. We're just growing. Exactly. We so much to do that the fun thing is harder to have time for when you just have so many things that you need to get done. Yeah. When we were a smaller, more intimate company and we were fueled by passion and Vaman Vigor. And Vaman Vigger.

And Vaman Vigger, at least Gus was full of it. I forgot my point. All right. I'm going to cut that. How was going on that? This is part of the decline. We have it. I was going to make a note to cut, but I think we should keep that in.

You should absolutely keep that in. But yeah, there's a lot of things like that. And I've been trying to think of points to hit, like stuff that may be forgotten, stuff that we should talk about or discuss, especially now with the added bonus of more time. You know, maybe we can look back on some of the stories and expand on them and talk more about them. I think it's, I'm hesitant to talk about this

and you can stop me. Okay. And we can cut this, this absolutely if you want to But the time that our website got erased on Christmas Eve. No, why would we cut that? Okay? We you know when we were a much smaller company We were in the one bedroom apartment down in Buda We had all this stuff going on like for example, you know the approving the banner ads and whatnot so we relied heavily on

like Community moderators like on the forums and everything to help, kind of make sure everything was going in an okay direction. And we were, I forget what it was. It was like, it was December, it was like the 23rd or the 24th of December and we were like crunching to finish an episode

because we were like, once we finished this episode of Red versus Blue, we'll be able to take a couple of days off and have like a mini Christmas break. And we were like finishing up the episode and then Gavin starts I aming us and it's like hey something's wrong with the website Stuff's getting deleted. I don't know what's happening and we go and we look and one of our moderators had just like lost it and Like I'd figured out how to go in and delete everything on the website. And lock all of us out. And lock us all out. And it was such a fucking nightmare. Gavin saved the company then, eh?

Yeah, he did. He, uh, Gavin managed to like get in there and then lock the other person out, partway through as like all this stuff was happening. And the other person who did all this was like, ah, I just did it for a laugh, whatever, y'all have backups, it's no big deal. It was a fucking, it was a huge big deal.

Cause again, we weren't a giant company with like all of this automated. It's like, no, now I have to sit down and go through our backups and figure out what has been deleted, what hasn't been deleted. Try to merge this database, like find all of this shit. Like it was like another day or two of work to get everything back online. It's like, it's not LOL, it's funny. day or two of work to get everything back online.

It's not LOL, it's funny. Like now, I don't have Christmas this year. Yeah. Because I have to fucking fix this shit that happened. It was such a betrayal of trust. Oh, that was brutal. An exploitation of this bug in the website that existed where that person was able to do that.

And I've never forgot. That's still so fucking angry about that. Like you all talk about Vim and Vigor Gus. I still get so fucking angry. Well, yeah, that was, that really hurt us. It really hurt our company. And it was somebody that we trusted who we had placed a lot of faith into because we thought they were cool, you know?

And, yeah, that was a bummer. You know, you're talking about like losing Christmas is that reminds me? And kind of the point I was going to go with, which yeah, that was a bummer. You know, you're talking about like losing Christmas is that reminds me, and kind of the point I was gonna go with, which was, I remember what I got lost in. It's people like kind of lament that time when we touched everything, but it was killing us, right? Right, absolutely. And I remember, I realized that finally

when we hired Emily McBride, who was our first store manager, because I had run the store for the first first seven years of the company, I guess. And I was thinking, you're talking about Christmas, Jacques, this memory, that next year was a big year for us, the year after that incident, you're talking about. That Christmas, I remember, I went to my wife's family's house for Christmas. It was my first Christmas I had spent with them.

And on Christmas Eve, I took my phone number used to be the store, customer service number. I took 107 calls on Christmas Eve related to the store and I remember being like trying to get gusts and Bernie and everybody to help me and they're like, yeah, that's your job buddy, we doing all stuff. And I was like, I got it.

And then they were all scattered to the wind. They wouldn't have been able to help anyway because I was, but I was just so buried. And I remember thinking like, I can't do this anymore. Like I can't, we can't make, this is unsustainable. And then eventually we hired Emily and not only did it lift that burden which allowed me to make a chief moment, right?

Like that was really a big switch. Like I was starting to make achievement hunter. And then when that burden got lifted, it really allowed us like hours of the day for creativity that we didn't have before. And she also did it better. Yeah, she is great. Then I ever could have.

Yeah. Like instantly, and I realized that was one of the first moments I realized in the company, like letting go of some stuff is okay, because it was killing me. And like you get to the, like when you run in the business of the company, and if the company is an entertainment company, the two are incongruent.

And you can't, like what happens is, you spend nine out of 10 hours running all of that shit, dealing with the website stuff, dealing with the store, dealing with back end, dealing with accounting and taxes and brand deals and sales and all of those other things. And at no point in making the product that you're selling, right, that you're trying to get people excited about. And when you do, oftentimes you have to like, switching gears is very difficult,

at least for me, to go from like, pragmatic business mode to creative mode. And I know a lot of people like lamented those, that like, that feeling of us like, relinquishing a little bit of control over every little thing. But it really did finally free us up to start doing stuff like, create an entire broadcast department, which Gus did, you know. All start doing stuff like creating an entire broadcast apartment, which Gus did.

All of that stuff was born out of us finally after seven of eight years, seven or eight years of just having an iron grip on everything. Or even more healthy thing, being able to take time off. Yeah, being able to take time off. Yeah, like you talked about your Christmas Eve thing. When I got married, I took a week off for my honeymoon. I had my sidekick at take time. Being able to step away. Like you talked about your Christmas Eve thing. When I got married, I took like a week off for my honeymoon. I had my sidekick at the time.

I was still logging into the service and fixing shit. Non-stop the entire time I was out of office that week. It was like, I had to keep the website up, had to keep things running. It was a shit show for me. My Emily McBride was Adam Beard. Where if I had Adam Beard? Adam Beard was like, thank God,

someone who can do this and who is way better at this than me. Who still works for this? Yeah. Who worked for this? Probably, I don't know, one of the four or five best hires in the history of the company. Oh, absolutely. Both times.

Yeah. Because he left and then came back. Thank God. Yeah. And also just like, just one of the best human beings you'll ever get to spend time with. Just a phenomenal person. And I think that that's one of the things that I,

it's kind of a bummer about Ruchertieth as, you know, we became the faces of the company because we were the company, but then at some point we became the faces of the company and you don't necessarily see the people behind the scenes that are working and toiling. And Rucherthieth is only around 19 and a half years after day one, because

of people like Emily McBride, who's gone on to bigger and better things now, but who gave us a really tremendous amount of work and really built that department into what it is now that Jeff Yetter is running and doing a phenomenal job with. Jeff Yetter is another huge star of the company that people don't see. There's so many hardworking, committed, dedicated, really inventive, creative, talented people that work at Rocheteeth, that the audience has no understanding of. Yeah, but how can you even, you should sell me the shirt?

Yeah, I'm sorry. We're not, we're right around like that 50 minute mark. We're getting close to wrapping up. And I want to ask Gus, I thought this was very good. I love bringing up like Emily McBride, and Adam Beard and all this stuff. I was gonna say at the end, before you finish, I was gonna apologize if I've been off this episode.

I really, I'm like passing out while we're talking. I'm kind of running on empty from the long week of deal with. You've had a long couple of weeks. You're good. No, weeks, you're good. No, no, you're good. This is part of the decline, so it's fine. Yeah, that's okay, it's not a big deal. I do want to ask Gus, he hasn't listened to the episode yet.

I mean, it's out. There's like kind of like no reason why he hasn't, I mean, I listen to it. I was in my day off yesterday. I mean, I listen to it today, it's not a big deal. It's okay, it's not a big deal. Are you trying to guilt me about my own podcast? No, I mean, I podcast that you're on, but you weren't in this one, but it's fine. It's not a big deal

But what do you have to say? I get an all-upity so what do you have to say about um to defend yourself in secret Gus? Is there anything you have to say about secret Gus? Secret Gus was like Pete Gus I have no apologies because they're not necessary There's no need to defend secret Gus. Seeker Gus is the best of us. Everyone should aspire to have that level. Listen, when you treat everything as a secret, nobody knows what's really a secret and what isn't. It definitely made friendship with Gus befuddling at times.

Listen, I wish I had the energy to still keep that kind of stuff up because I thought that was great Just treat everything like it's the utmost secret then no one knows what your real secrets are The real secret is yes, no secrets that that might be it see It's brilliant. So your defensive secret because is that it's peak gods brilliant That's there is no there is no need to defend there is no defense it's not necessary it is indefensible oh I didn't realize if it's sitting next to the rat trap the whole thing oh maybe you're passing out from the rat trap fumes oh so fucking tired so your defense of secret gusses there no There doesn't need to be a defense.

Correct. Absolutely. Great. Well, that's good. But did not think we were going to get 10 seconds of nope. It's fine. It's only fine. Yeah.

That's a very Gus move. Yes, it is. Power move. Oh, and it's fucking. That's a prime Gus right there. When I've always been, like whenever we film live action stuff or whenever we do stuff for the company I've never been shy about like taking my clothes off or being the fool or being the asshole or whatever Because like for the most part I try to I try to do this as much as possible

It's like I don't let anything I've done embarrass me Yeah, I think we used to say this back when we both drank and we would go out and we'd be assholes in public. And people would ask like, oh aren't you embarrassed about the things you did while you were drunk then? Like, nah, I did it. Whatever, like I'm just gonna own the things that I do and not feel shame about.

I was a very, you'll never believe this. I was very awkward when I was young. And I was always very embarrassed about a lot of things. So then I think I reached a point in my life in my early 20s where I said, I'm just gonna own it all. There's no point in being embarrassed. I am who I am.

If people don't like it, fuck them. Who cares? I'm just gonna own all the things I do, and that's me. And I think that's Cigar Gus' side effect of that. Absolutely. I love it. I love it. It is fantastic.

I'll listen. I just count myself lucky that I get to spend time with any Gus. I'll take it in the form I get him. Secret enough. Classified. Classified get to spend time with any Gus. I'll take it in the form I get him. See it or not. Oh, classifying. Classified lame Hawaiian shirt Gus. Like whatever it is, I'll take it.

Whoo. It's fantastic. Well, we are wrapping up, but I don't think anybody's successfully guessed Anma and I still have people messaging me and going, what's the name mean? Andy must act we yes. Is there an end in there somewhere? Andy. Andy.

Oh, okay, I got it. Okay, is that the name? Is that what it is? Who, which Andy? Who an end in there somewhere? Andy. Oh, okay, I got it. Okay, is that the name? Is that what it is? Who, which Andy? Who? Is it just Andy? Just a general... No, no, no.

No. I, where was it? Hold on, I saw a comment the other day. Okay. Let me find it here. I read, you know, comments as much as I can. And there was a great one on the Rister Teeth website. Extra crispy, wrote,

the way Gus, this is for a previous episode. The way Gus said, anima, all new materials all the time, despite everything we know about the title this far, I thought that was him seeking it by us. Oh, I think he's doing a title sneak. I was not, but I love that much in people's heads. It's pretty good.

The people are like, I'm not about that much, so no, that was not true. By the that much in people's heads. It's pretty good. The people are like, thinking about it that much. So no, that was not true. By the way, if you are listening to this on wherever you get podcasts, if you're a Ristratif first member, you can get this a day early. I'm sure people know that and some people don't. So let you know in the episode.

If you're a first member, you can also get the episode of day early, not only on Ristratif, but a whatever platform you listen to podcast something. Yeah. Well, what's your guess? Hi, everyone keeps guessing and another, I like the Andy guess because it's really out of left field. I still think it's animals and you won't admit it, but let's see.

Like defleppered animal? Yeah, just like deflepper. I did guy message me and he's like, hey, my band's opening for Motley Crew. Deflepper, Joan Jet. I get you tickets, do you want to go? And I went, absolutely. I can't wait.

They're coming to like San Antonio. And it's like, I'm gonna see Deflepper in 2022. I saw Joan Jet a couple of years ago and she was awesome. Yeah, oh, fuck yeah. I'm so excited. So I think we're gonna get you on my list here. I was gonna talk about concerts in Austin. What's up? I saw Jonesed at a couple years ago and she was awesome. Yeah, oh fuck yeah Man I really I think the first word is probably Austin

Materials Anonymous Austin materials anonymous. No, he thought about it. I don't like the way he thinks I really he thought about it for a long time He doesn't see it. Yeah, like the paus but i see his eyeballs right right because i was the first way what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what what me around Austin. He just really started going. Yeah, and then it was like, oh, yeah, he has to be a question. No, so I was saying anything about. Oh, hang on. He's talking to me directly. My mind had jumped around to a couple of different places. And then it came back like, Oh, no. Oh, my Lord. Wow. Rest in peace, Bill Russell. Yeah, sorry about that one. Sorry. I did not mean to kill Bill Russell. That lives on that, well, the curse does. Yeah, the age does. Not the real. The age of the curse lives on. Yep.

There you go. Any parting words for the fault mentioned a celebrity? Yeah, don't. I know, I feel like I have to. No, no, no. Sorry about the break last week with no end my episode. Not what happened? No, I wasn't here.

You had two months notice. It's true. I was going to be out that week. No, that he was going to be out. I said a two month notice. Then I sent a one month heads up, and then like the day before you're like, oh yeah, you're out, aren't you? Yeah, that's right.

I kept, I, I, I, with all the different podcasts I do, I try to send multiple warnings in advance and maybe yeah. Well, we had the week before we had an issue with filming other projects. Gus, we have a lot of project involvement or hands or in a lot of different projects. So do I, that's why I've been sent decided you probably got multiple messages from me for all of the different shows on pop.

different projects going on around the company. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a tough one. Busy, busy, busy. Bus, buzz, busy, bees. Alright, again, I apologize for no episode last week. Alright, anyway. Parting words, Jeff, are you gonna go take a nap? I'm gonna go, I have one last task to complete and and then I can, I can rest for I'm gonna take a nap. And then next week, I'll be back, and I'll be awake. I'll be awake.

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