ANMA - We Are Sick

Episode Date: May 22, 2023

Good morning from home, Gus! That's right, it's a remote ANMA because we've been a little under the weather but fear not, we're still drinking coffee. In this episode, Gus and Geoff talk about Gus 1 C...OVID 0, Lying about nonsense, Bad mouthing other companies, Billy West, Getting starstruck, Andre 3000, Seananners, Lazarbeam, & Mega64, Convention memories, Stinky PAX, ANMANFT but in a good way. We'll be at RTX and hopefully so will you July 7-9. www.RTXAustin.com for all the details. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:32 We talked about the change to East fifth and that kind of area. Talked about indoor outdoor bars, potential coffee, partnerships, the Pocon Street festival and punching a zebra. Those were all the things we talked about last time. You also learned about the river street names in downtown Austin. That's awesome. Taking north to South Rivers and laying them out east to west.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Mm-hmm. So, touching on Jeff running, we started that day off with Eric telling me I looked like shit. And then I explained that I had jet lag and Then I had been running for two days talking about how achy my body was for running I was really surprised at how bad a shape I'm in Considering how much I ride my bike and I actually am pretty I played tennis a lot and I was like, there's no way I'm in this decrepit.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Turns out I wasn't. I think what may have been bothering me was the COVID that I had that we discovered later that night. Now you might be thinking, well, I guess you guys are recording this next one from home because Jeff has COVID. Only partially because I'm at the other end of it.
Starting point is 00:01:41 This morning Gus. I tested positive for COVID this morning, which is really great timing because the government and the whole world decided COVID ended yesterday. So, testing and medication, all that stuff is not free anymore. If I had just tested positive, I don't know, 24 hours earlier, I would have been free. I had to test myself with a home test, but I had scheduled a, like an at-farm PCR test just to like be extra sure. And they called me back and they're like, yeah, it's like $129 now for a test. I'm like, yeah, um, that home test set up positive and I don't feel good. So I'm just going to go with that. I'm pretty
Starting point is 00:02:17 sure I've got it. Wow. I don't know how you got COVID. I hope. Listen, listen, when the buzzer went off and COVID was over, the score was Gus won COVID zero. I don't know. They pulled some over time, shit. I don't know what the refs are doing, allowing this to go on. The game was set when the whistle went off. It was official. It was in the books.
Starting point is 00:02:42 It's so funny. I mean, I'm so sorry that I gave you a clearly gave you COVID Although I will say if you're gonna this is my second time having it if you're gonna get a COVID This is the COVID to get it is fucking It really is like this is nobody wants COVID, but if you get COVID get whatever May 2023 COVID is because it is easy Yeah, we saw you know, we recorded it on Monday and then Wednesday night I was like sitting on my couch watching TV and I was like
Starting point is 00:03:07 It's my is my throat a little sore am I imagining this and I was like no, no, no, I'm just imagining it And I woke up Thursday and I was like it's till a little sore. It's not bad Then like went through the whole day then like as the day when I was like, man my knees and my legs are a little like you That's weird and then this morning woke up and I was like, tested again, like, yep, there it is, like immediately. It for a pandemic that's over, it sure is prevalent right now. I was telling Eric before he came in, guys, my mom is on a road trip and she's up in the Northeast,
Starting point is 00:03:35 got COVID, like right at the Canadian border. Andrew Pantin over in Vancouver Island, the extreme west of Canada, he got COVID the same day I did. It's, you get it from like a polar bear? Yeah, I got a, I got it, you got it from a polar bear. Yeah, I got a polar bear in Vancouver. Yep. It's, uh, it's everywhere this COVID for, for how over it is.
Starting point is 00:03:54 For being over. Yeah. Um, it's just strange timing. Of course, like I went three years without getting it, never had it once. And then when I finally do get it, it's right, when everyone says it's over. And now, now, you know, you have to, now I have to pay for it. I could have, I don't have the free COVID. I've got the money COVID.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I don't even know, the doctor's gonna call me in a bit to give me packs of COVID. I don't even know how much that's gonna cost because it used to be free. I think, do they even know yet? How much is gonna cost? I don't know, dude, it was free on Monday. Good job.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You're gonna be, they're gonna test with you how much they can get away. Yeah. I hope it's like the advanced war situation again for they're like, just pop it. Just pop it. Just take it. You're an advanced wars pecs, Lovid. Great.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Great. Oh, well, in all seriousness, I hope it's your first case as a mild case. Thanks so far. It's not bad, but hopefully it stays that way. So, you know, trying to kind of like redirect the podcast back to Anima stuff. I was thinking the other day, this is going to sound like it's not Anima stuff, but I promise I'm going to wheel it back around. The other day, you know, George Santos got, I guess, a charge
Starting point is 00:05:03 interested for potential campaign finance problems. I guess the story is that he's lied a little bit allegedly, and the government's not happy about that. And as I was watching him on the news, talk, you're proclaiming his innocence and go through all of that, it made me think about someone I used to know when I was younger, like a kid that I went to school with, who, and I don't know if you guys know anyone, this is kind of what the springboard of the conversation is. Like I was watching George Santos,
Starting point is 00:05:33 and I was like, this guy reminds me of someone I knew when I was young. Like someone who would just lie all the time about, shit that doesn't matter, or shit that doesn't make sense. And you're like, this person would lie to me to my face and I'd be like, what are you talking about? That doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I'd be like, no, yeah, yeah, it's totally true. Like, no, that's not. Sony music does not have a contract with you to record an album of you playing piano. I don't know why they would do that. That, you're 16. Why would, yeah. It's like, shit like like that where you're like,
Starting point is 00:06:05 no, that's just baffling to be that people are like that, who just like about, unearported things about things that no one's asking can just like straight to your face, make shit up seemingly on the fly. I think when you're a kid, everyone knows someone like that. I feel like you just like, my Uncle Orcs had say good, say good's good.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So Mike Uncle Orcs had Nintendo, but like that kind of a thing, it's weird when it doesn't stop and it moves into a business setting or an adult setting and you go, what the fuck is this shit? And it makes any sense. Well, it's like, it's the flavor of kid who, and all kids are subject to this,
Starting point is 00:06:44 but like the kid who are desperate for attention in some way. And so some kids will get it by being a bully, right? Some kids will act up and be class clowns. Some kids will eat worms on the playground. And then some kids will lie and tell you that their dad is friends with Don Mattingley and you know, and you went to the World Series for free
Starting point is 00:07:03 or whatever. It's like, it's just it's like it's one of those Like one of the sides of that coin of like just being desperate and needing attention and Trying to find the path of least resistance to it, right? And it is something that most people go out of by about 14 or 15 I'd say, I guess the dude I knew was still doing it through college Did he get it? Are you sure he went to college? I'd say, I guess. Oh, the dude I knew was still doing it through college. Wow. Did he get it? Are you sure he went to college? That's an excellent point.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I don't wanna say too much, but yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he went to college. Okay, because he could have just sent you photos standing out front of the college. No, I think I'm pretty sure he did. He got good grades, and I believe that he did go to a college. Now, if you went to the college, he claimed to or not. That's a different question.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah. You run into anything like that business-wise, not even just like people lying about like nonsense, but like when you're running into like business deal stuff, guys who just sort of like bolster not just themselves, but like the companies that you're about to do work for or people that want to work with you and like selling that bill of goods. Is that something you guys had to like be really wary of? Well, the one that would get me, sorry, to jump in here, Jeff, the one that would always get me is when you're like dealing with someone and, you know, whatever, like then the
Starting point is 00:08:21 end of getting to know you face, right? Like they begin out of nowhere, like bad mouthing other people or other companies, like seemingly without real reason. And it's the extra awkward when you are friends and know the people at the other company. And it's like, what are you, and in my mind, you know, I'll be like, what is this person doing? They're just bad mouthing these other people who I consider my friends, like they don't know that I know them.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And it's just like for no reason, like not relevant to the conversation at all, just like going off on a tangent about how much these other people suck and they don't know what they're doing. And it's like, but I know those people and they do know what they're doing. Yeah, I mean, I'd say that's a fairly common thing
Starting point is 00:09:02 what you're describing Eric. I mean, I think most people in our industry are full of shit, us included, I'd say that's a fairly common thing what you're describing Eric. I mean, I think most people in our industry are full of shit, us included. Honestly, you know? Do you feel like you got like a lot of grit? Like you guys at, you know, kind of like that early 2000s or whatever where it was like, here's a variety article
Starting point is 00:09:18 and here's like all this stuff and it was like hot new kid on the block or whatever. Did that bring on a lot of like the grifty sales guys and like the people trying to like get in bed with you quickly because it's like, oh, we heard that you're a cool thing. Yeah, there was a fair amount of that. I will say especially in those early days and Gus, you might disagree, but I would say that like Gus and I were fairly immune to that because we were just, we just wanted to work. We just wanted to make stuff. And Bernie
Starting point is 00:09:44 and Matt did all that, you know, like they were the ones that fielded the calls from the grifters. And Gus and I just kind of tried to avoid that shit. Yeah. It wasn't really our speed and it wasn't what we were interested in. We just wanted to be funny and make content. And so I think he and I just had our heads down through a lot of those early days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And there was also a lot of, but even so there were a lot of people who, you know, we would deal with or like meet at events. Like, that was the big thing, right? Like, going on convention and, you know, meeting people in the industry or in adjacent industries. And a lot of them had that very fake it till you make it mentality, which I think is still like very prevalent, which is fine if you know what you're doing and you're actually going to make it. But there's a lot of people with the fake it till you make it attitude who don't and they're just like fake it till someone calls you on it and it all falls apart. Hmm. Just fake it for as long as you can until the rug gets pulled out from under you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Right. Yeah. That's what I'm working on. That happens a lot with people who take on like outside investment or have people give them money, which we were very fortunate, we didn't have to deal with that when we started. Here's a small aside that just popped into my head, guess, in those early days when we were starting to do conventions and I'm saying like that maybe the first four years when it was still very new to us, maybe first three years. Who was the first other
Starting point is 00:11:02 Who was the first other select? I'm using celebrities for us, quotes for us, not for them, but who's the first ever celebrity you met or that we were on a bill with that you were excited or impressed with? That you were like, holy shit, I can't believe. Here's a person that I revere or that I look up to. Because I remember like our first thing we did, we did a bunch of stuff with the Buffy girls.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You did not watch Buffy, you did not give a fuck. You were not impressed by the Buffy girls. But at that same event was also Ron Pearlman. Was not impressed with Ron Pearlman, Adelaide. Yeah, who the hellboy had just come out when we were doing that event with him. And the dude who played that creepy big guy on X-Files, he was like the alien,
Starting point is 00:11:45 he had the oil thing in his eye. We were in an elevator with that guy. Like I love the X-Files. Back when I was in high school, I was like, oh cool, it's the guy who's like secretly an alien and pretending to be an FBI agent. We, yeah, I can't describe the guy any better than Gustat, did, but you would know him immediately if you saw him
Starting point is 00:12:03 and you would know him from that role. You'd be like, oh, that's the guy. That's the only thing he's ever done. I think, or at least that I recognize him from. Yeah. But it was always, it was always stuff like that. Well, I shouldn't say always. Like early on, it was, it was stuff like that where it's, I think maybe I didn't have
Starting point is 00:12:17 as much of an appreciation for it as I shut up in the early, in the early days. It was just kind of like, well, I guess this is what happens, you know, just kind of taking it for granted. I definitely didn't, especially with like, we would do a lot of stuff with anime voice actors, and I knew shit about anime then. I know shit about it now, but I know a little bit more about it, and there would be people that would like, people would be going nuts, and I would just, I had no fucking clue who the people were. I'm happy for their success, but I think the first one that I can remember being just like, kind of stunned stunned by and I don't know if you remember this is we we did a event in Florida and our booth was next to Billy West.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And I was like I was like sitting on my hands the whole weekend because I was not only a future Alma fan, but a huge Howard Stern fan and Billy West was a lot of people in another Billy West was a member of the Howard Stern show until the early 90s, late 80s. He left to go off and Hollywood and make it big. And so I was like a double whammy for me and I was just like, this guy hasn't been on Stern in 20 years. I'm not going to ask him any Stern questions, even though I want to, he probably doesn't want to hear that. And I just like, and then anytime I think about what to talk to him about, I'm like, you're just embarrassing yourself in your head, just keep your mouth shut and just smile. And I just try to play cool around them a weekend. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I, one time we were going to do an event in New Zealand and, you know, it's a really long flight to get from Austin, New Zealand. You fly Austin to LA, LA to Auckland and you like total travel times, like 24 hours or something. Like from the time you leave your house to the time you're walking out of the airport in Auckland, and I was going through customs at Auckland. You know, you collect your bag, I actually said I was going through passport control.
Starting point is 00:13:52 So like you collect your bag and you know, you go out, you get in a line and there's like an immigration officer who looks at your passport, make sure if he's in order and like stamps it and you can go on. And so, you know, I'm next. I go up the immigration guy, you know, takes my passport, is looking it over, is asking what I'm there for, telling me the immigration guy, it takes my passport, is looking it over, is asking what I'm there for, and telling me, therefore, a convention. And he's like, you look really familiar,
Starting point is 00:14:08 are, oh, are you the voices Simmons? And I was like, oh yeah, I'm here, doing, you know, Rister T. Thread vs. Blue stuff at this event over at the convention center. He's like, oh yeah, and then like, I started feeling really nervous because he was just having like a super casual conversation with me, like we just bumped into each other on the street.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And we're having like this conversation about Red versus Blue and whatnot. And meanwhile, the line's just backing up with everyone behind me and I'm like, oh God, like everyone's looking at me. I feel like everyone's kind of expecting me to get arrested or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 So I was like, hey, do you like Futurama? And he goes, yeah, I love Futurama. And I turned around because Billy West was on my plane, too, he was going to the same event. And I was like, hey, that's Billy West right over there. You see him in the line? And the guy goes, oh shit, yeah. Go on, go on.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Do you like step my passport and then put me through? Oh my God. What? I wonder if Billy West hates you to this day. Yeah, from his perspective, he just sees me turn around and put right at him from the you to this day. Yeah, from his perspective, he just sees me turn around and point right at him from the front of this line. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:15:11 How about you, Eric? You've done the convention tour just as much as we have or the circuit. What was the first celebrity you ever saw was like a wrestler or just a sergeant slaughter last year. That was fucking really cool. That's really, really cool to see serge last year. That was fucking cool. That was really cool to me. That was really, really cool to see Sarge and slaughter. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I don't, I'm not a star, wrestling is like really the only thing that I ever, what I meet any of these guys, I go like, oh wow, this is like really cool. Beyond that, it's like, I just don't, people are typically cool. So like when you, it's nice when somebody's famous and you have a nice interaction, but at no point am I like getting crazy and like over the moon. Like, um, I remember this was years and years and years ago. We went down to a place
Starting point is 00:15:57 called, uh, we went to Jacksonville for a convention called EXP con. Uh, it's very, it was a smaller thing. And it was next to a golf course and like the Murray brothers, like Bill Murray and his brothers have like a restaurant there, like the Caddy Shack restaurants, like this goofy as hell. But we went and like mega 64 is like these special guests, which is nice. And then also a bunch of voice actors and stuff like that. And nobody that I really knew very well, cause it was mostly anime. But one of the people that we met was, uh, Charles Marne,
Starting point is 00:16:32 the voice of Super Mario. Yeah. And he's been the voice of Super Mario since like 1993 or something. Like he is Mario. And we all went on a little sightseeing thing, you know, get there daily go sightseeing and then the conventions the next day or whatever. And so we went on to like this old fort and checked out stuff and went to like this little restaurant and I was sitting across from him and he went we're just eating and he looked up at me and he went, you look like a guy who says fucking A.
Starting point is 00:17:05 And I would look, and I would, I don't think I've ever said that. And he's like, try it on for size. And I went, all right, fucking A, like these tacos. And he went, there you go. And I'll never forget that for as long as I live. I just thought that was so cool. And after that is when I became a really big fan. Like at that point on, I became like, oh my God, like every time I see him on stuff or whatever, I go, this is so
Starting point is 00:17:32 cool. This is so great. I feel like that's the guy who gave you your new catchphrase. Yeah. Mario gave you a catchphrase. That's pretty cool. The thing I say all the time. He's just like Mario can't say that. So he's like Mario can say it. So he's trying to give it to people. Yeah. At that same convention, we, it's where we met Troy Baker for the first time. And we had a panel next to him at the exact same time. And we opened the door that was between and we switched panel rooms in the middle of panels. So he went and did the mega 64 panel and mega 64 went and did the Troy Baker panel and Troy Baker's fans were not thrilled.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But that was the time that I learned, oh, fucking cool. Like and then since then it's like holy shit, Troy Baker's and all this stuff. To me, it's less about being star struck about this person is a movie star. It doesn't really mean much to me. But when I get the personal connection after that, I go, this is the coolest fucking thing in the world. I it doesn't really mean much to me, but when I get the personal connection after that, I go, this is the coolest fucking thing in the world. I love this shit. That's so awesome. I love that. That's the best. Is there no one you would be star struck by? I agree with you in that like it's, I'm not as impressed especially as I get older
Starting point is 00:18:40 by I've seen you get star struck. Don't try to play. No, I can't. And I have. And there are people that I would get star struck by. I'm asking, and I'm happy to share that. But I'm asking if, if there's anybody error things to you, like, would you be star struck by Howard Stern? Uh, I think it would be, I would feel so uncomfortable taking up any of his time. Honestly, the people that mean the most to me with like the media that I consume, the most I ever do is walk up to them and go,
Starting point is 00:19:09 hey, just wanna say big fan, that's it. And then I don't bother for a picture, I don't stop for a talk or whatever. If they stop for a chat, that's nice. Like I do that with Scott Ockerman, who does comedy bang bang. Saw him walking at Comic Con, and I went, hey man, just wanna say big fan.
Starting point is 00:19:23 And he was like, oh hey, all right, it was start talking for a minute. He's like, you want to take a picture? And we took a picture real quick and it was nice. And I guess maybe if you, you know, you meet Tom Cruise, like, I don't know, like it would have to be someone that's like George Clooney that's like so like in another stratosphere. but like we had Batista in for the Rooster Teeth podcast and to me that is like, that's, that guy's a movie star and gigantic professional wrestler. So like as a Vendiogram, that's just one circle. Like he fucking nailed both.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And I met him and he went, hey, cool mustache. And that's awesome. And that like, and now when I see him and he went, hey, cool mustache. And that's awesome. And that, like, and now when I see him on stuff, I go, fucking, hey, my best friend, Batista, like that's it. Like, I don't know. It, I don't know that there's anyone that would like really, that would really do that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 How about you guys? How about you guys? I think I mentioned once before in this podcast a long time ago about when our office was still in downtown Austin at the Congress office that like I walked past Walton Goggins outside of the hideout and like I wish I had done what you did Eric. Like I just kind of walked by and like went up to you I was like oh shit that was Walton Goggins. I wish I'd told him how much I appreciated his work and you know like not really any more than that just you know let him know that.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Hey I like what he does. I like when really any more than that. Just, you know, let him know that, hey, I like what he does. I like when I see him and stuff. I think that is such a great way just to like, they're stopped and asked for things all day, constantly from people. When your face is recognizable in that way, you're constantly asked for stuff to give something
Starting point is 00:21:03 and just be like, hey, I just want to say big fan, that's it. And then you're into the fucking night, love it. I wouldn't even, like, there's no way I would even do that. Like, Gus has seen me be star struck. I think the thing he's mentioning is probably when I saw Andre 3000 on the street, and I did, I freaked out a little bit
Starting point is 00:21:21 because you don't expect to see Andre 3000 walking down the street. And I was, you know, everybody's a huge fan of outcast obviously. But I think the two people that would be the biggest for me to meet most influential people in my life would be hardster and David Lynch and if I saw either of them at the other side of a room I'm running out the door as far away from them as possible. I would never speak to them. I would never say I'm a big fan or thank you. Like, I've probably talked about this in the past, but you know, this is all formed from my Barclay experience as a kid,
Starting point is 00:21:49 but like, the best thing you can hope for in that situation, like if I were to meet David Lynch, probably the single most influential person in my entire life. If I were to meet David Lynch, the best thing I can hope for is that I don't embarrass myself. The worst thing I can hope for is that I, be embarrassed myself to such a degree I can no longer enjoy David Lynch films, right? That, that, that, that's top of the bottom.
Starting point is 00:22:11 That, like, if when you're ceiling is the floor, stay the fuck away. Like the best you can hope for is the floor. Just don't, like, just don't do it. Don't do it. Just avoid the situation. You can, you can not embarrass yourself by not talking to him. Exactly. I can already accomplish it. Just avoid the situation. All costs. You can not embarrass yourself by not talking to him. Exactly. I can already accomplish the A plus of the situation by walking out the room.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So I'm doing. But I don't think that like, I don't think you'll ever let it go. I think that you'll, I think you'll remember the time you saw David Lynch. You had a chance to say something. I've been in a room with David Lynch before. You've been in a room with David Lynch before. I saw he, he did a showing of the straight story here and I saw it. Oh, right. But that's not you in an available situation to go up and talk to him.
Starting point is 00:22:52 No, no, and if I would have been, I would have run the other darks. You should have done it. What a body was there. I'm actually. You really don't think if you were at like, not even a party, just walking down the street because I feel like that's such an easy situation
Starting point is 00:23:06 to say something and keep going. You have an easy and an easy out. No. No, what David Lynch is doing in that situation when he's walking down the street, is he's in his head, he's thinking David Lynch stuff, he's living David Lynch's life, he's doing his David Lynch things,
Starting point is 00:23:20 he's, who knows what, maybe he's working out some sort of a problem for a film or maybe he's trying to remember what he's gonna buy at the grocery store. and all I'm gonna do is interrupt that moment to tell him somebody likes him He's he he knows people like him. He doesn't need that for me What and what I would what would happen is I would go And then my shoelace would fucking come and done it. I would trip and then I'd bang my knee and then rehearsal bad. I'd shit my pants. And then there we be. Yeah, that would be, I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:48 honestly, if you did that in front of David Lynch, that'd probably be in the next movie. And then in the next week, you get to see that happy, like man, son of a bitch. And then you'll, you'll stay up. You go, that's me. That's me. Like it'll be crowned the most embarrassing moment on the film ever. And I'll be like, I was the embarrassing guy.
Starting point is 00:24:03 It's real. Conversely, I guess, and this is sort of like, we talk about Star Strucker, whatever, and the way that I view it is, like when I get that personal connection with someone and then see them sort of like continue the climb, that means a lot to me personally. Like have a lot of friends that are like pro wrestlers
Starting point is 00:24:21 who are like doing, they're on TV now. They're like getting big in like all these places. And it's really cool to like support these guys who are climbing and climbing. Do you have people like that who like start like you were around or you did conventions or you were on bills with and then you see them just kind of keep climbing that ladder and you're like, fuck man, that's so cool. Okay, before I answer that, I do actually have a really good answer for you, Eric. I do want to say one thing more about people, other people that we met, like celebrities
Starting point is 00:24:55 at these events. Back in 2014, I did an event in Australia, I went down there with Jordan Swayers and it was one of those events where there's like tons of like real celebrities end up. And at those events, they have like green rooms where everyone who's invited guests can like sit down, hang out, they've got like snacks and water and shit like that. You wait, you know, that's where you wait before you go to your booth or go to a panel or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And on that same bill with us were allentutic from Firefly and Grant E. Mahara from Mythbusters. Cool. And like that whole weekend Jordan and I hang hung out with both it like we struck up like a weekend friendship with those guys like we'd see each other like we'd sit down at the table together and just like shoot the shit you know talk about crowdfunding and internet stuff and like it was really cool to just have like a weekend friendship with these people who was like, I reckon like people recognize them. Like these are, you know, people on TV and movies and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And it was really weird, you know, a few years ago when Grant E. Mahara passed away. It was like, you know, even though we hung out with the dude for a weekend, it was like, man, that's, I can't believe like the dude that, you know, was, you know, I was really, I was really good weekend friends with like that, something like that happened to him.
Starting point is 00:26:07 That was really an unusual moment because he passed away so young. But to answer your question, like someone that we run into, who then like we watch grow and, you know, go on that trajectory, we had a really strange encounter back at the Congress office
Starting point is 00:26:24 when we were still downtown where one day someone knocked on the door, maybe we've told a story before, someone knocked on the door and told us he'd want a contest to tour the Rooster Teeth office. It was like a Mountain Dew contest or something. Through the cinema. Yeah. Yeah, we're like, no one ever talked to us about this. All right, you can come in, I guess. What?
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, back then we just like if anyone showed up, we'd like walk him around the office and whatever, we used to do tours like that. So we let him in, it was like some guy and his girlfriend or fiance, like there was a, there was a woman with him and they'd like, walk around and we show him how we do everything. And he's like, oh, yeah, that'll, like, you know, he's like really intent on, you know, learning the specifics of how we make videos and what the workflow is and everything. And we spent, I don't know, like an hour or two with the guy. And he took off. And then he started his own YouTube channel and he was seen-anners, who was like a really big... Are you serious? Yeah, YouTube creator for quite a while. Whoa! Yeah, he, I guess, just came to learn how to learn how we do stuff
Starting point is 00:27:25 than he went and started doing his own thing. That's crazy. Yeah, I asked him about it years later, like, what was the deal? Why did you show up in our office? And he said that, like, there were all these contests on, like, machinima back in the day for, like, to machinimate something or make your own video.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And he just figured nobody else was entering them. So he would enter all of them and he was like, I just kept winning him, left and right. And just learned how easy production is kind of through that and through visiting y'all. And I have a similar one when y'all made laser team, I was in that movie, there was like a thing you could do where you could pay too much money
Starting point is 00:28:04 and then you could come spend a day at Rooster Teeth. And there was this fucking Australian kid who was a high school dropout who was working construction for his dad who paid way too much money to come spend a day with a chief monitor. And he walked in the door and we all kind of fell in love with him and just like instantly he became
Starting point is 00:28:22 like our kid brother. And we ended up letting him come back the next day too, I think, even though he didn't pay for that. And we just kind of kept in touch. And that fucking dumb kid ended up being laser beam. Oh wow. Yeah, who's what you're like? What the biggest gaming celebrities on the fucking earth.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah, I was in free guy. He was in free guy. Tex, I actually texted him about that. You're glad to know. Yeah, and that's a kid who I just, I couldn't speak highly enough. I can't say enough good things about, I just love dearly.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And every success he has, I'm happy for. Like genuinely happy for. So I would say that's one. Hey everyone, wanna take a moment to remind you RTX 2023 is happening this July 7th through 9th. RTX is our absolute favorite time of the year. We get to interact with all of the amazing people that give us the opportunity to make content.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's a celebration of all things, Rooster Teeth with panels, special guests, community artists, cosplay, and more. This would be exclusive reveals. Me and Greets and Rooster Teeth talent, a special merch available only during the event, not sure if you've seen it, so I've got Travis the Bat, Willie the Armadillo, looks great, personally, I love it. Every any time I see pictures of them, I'm like, give me that right now. We're changing things up with the convention this year, it's going to be awesome, imagine a mini Epcot style convention show floor with different attractions and activations for your favorite Rostri The brands. I'll wrap up in a summer camp theme. It's summer camp for
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Starting point is 00:30:41 So in the laser team one, I was only on set for like a day. Right. I don't know, like maybe two, I was actually two days. Whoa. Oh my God. And he won't shut up with it. On the second day, when we were doing like the interior shoot, like I had an outdoor one, then we're doing the indoor one. Like, you know, we were all setting up to film. And like one of the crew was walking around and he was wearing a St. Poly girl shirt, you know, the beer St. Poly girl.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And like the logo's got like the woman holding like the big mugs of beer. And one of the other actresses on set, like calls him over and is like, Hey, why are you wearing that shirt? And he's like, Oh, I don't know. It's put it on today. He's like, and then she asked like again, she's like a little concerned. Like, but why did you wear that shirt? And he's like, oh, I don't know, it's put it on today. And then she asked again, she's like a little concerned, like, why did you wear that to set today? And he was, the guy's like getting uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:31:31 He was like, I don't know, it was just the next shirt in my closet. I just grabbed it and put it on and came into work. And then she's like, because you know that's me, right? And the guy's like, what? And the female scientist, the blonde female scientist from the laser team, what?
Starting point is 00:31:44 She was the same polys girl, that was her. And then I was like, I looked at her and I looked at the shirt and I was like, oh shit, it is you. It was so bizarre. It was so bizarre. The weirdest coincidence possible is like, oh yeah, you're on his shirt, that's you right there. And I think that maybe she thought
Starting point is 00:32:01 he had recognized her before and I can actually worn the shirt or something. And but it was just like pure dumb luck that he had recognized her before and had like intentionally warned the shirt or something. And but no, it was just like pure dumb luck that he had warned that shirt that day. Wow, that's crazy. I didn't know that was a real person. Me neither. Can I say I also, I don't know the like,
Starting point is 00:32:18 the trajectory matches that of like Lannan, but I've always felt the same, similarly about negative 64, just like every bit of success they've had, because I feel like we started together and just the, and the fact that they're still around and still going strong and still doing well, I just, I have a lot of pride for them, uh, because I just have a lot of respect for those guys. I feel the same way. I will say I was always very envious of megast 64.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Really? Because I, way. I will say I was always very envious of mega 64 really because I felt like mega 64 had a lot more industry cloud than we did. Oh for sure. For sure. Watching mega 64 make videos and have like Miyamoto in them or Kojima or Gabe Newell like to, dude, they, Mike Nelson, they did a video with Mike Nelson. Yeah, that's not a video game, but it's like, what the fuck? Yeah. I felt like they were, then they still are, they're like very respected industry-wise,
Starting point is 00:33:12 and it was something that, like from our perspective, looking at it was like, man, those guys are fucking awesome. That's so cool, all the stuff they do. It's hard being your favorite bands, favorite band, but that's what Mega 64 is really written out for like 20 years of like, what was that like band that inspired like Ariya like big star or whatever? Yeah. Or like just like a band that nobody really listened to, but it's like, this is the most influential thing
Starting point is 00:33:46 to everything you listen to for like 20 years. Yeah, there's a punk band called Wire that had an album called Pink Flag, British Band that nobody's ever heard of, and they inspired every punk band you love. Yeah, it's that. And I think that it's really cool when, like as just Mega 64 in general,
Starting point is 00:34:07 it's just, it's very cool how sort of insular they are. Oh, I don't think it was ever by design. I think that's just kind of the guys that we were and I guess they still are. And seeing the fan base sort of like get inspired by what they did to go on to do other stuff is like crazy. Uh, I know that you guys have probably had a lot of that too, where you've had people who were like fans in the community who would like make stuff and do stuff or whatever. And then like sort of move up and all that and like have like their own following, but it man, it is so cool to see.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I love when people like take it into their own hands, uh, and just like do it. You know what I mean? There's a guy, there's a guy on TikTok right now who's like really going off called like, must chino Dorito, I think this redhead, bigger redheaded, do the big beard and like longer red hair and everything. And, um, he's wearing a mega 64 shirt in one of his videos. And he has like, he's like 750,000 followers or whatever on TikTok. And it's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:35:15 And then he messaged me and he's like big fans since like 2010. It's like, how the fuck? Like that's crazy. That's so cool. That's nuts. That's so nuts. It's so nuts that there are fans that are just doing like their own thing and they're fucking good at it and I love it. I fucking love it. I love it. It's exciting. It's kind of how like Billy Eilish and Phineas got their start watching a cheap hunter and now they're huge stars and it's because of other. You did it. You did it. You did it. Congrats. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:35:45 You're welcome. I just think it's, I just think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun when you can build a community and make stuff that you like, that inspires people to then make stuff that they like, that you also end up liking. That is, that has to be so rare. That has to be so rare in the scope of things.
Starting point is 00:36:07 It just can't happen that often. I don't know. No, I totally agree with that. I'm so mad. Why? They're so good. They're so good. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:36:18 The sort of swath that they cut, make a 64. And like the people that I've met through it, conventions, and then you guys and getting this job and all that stuff, but still being very plugged into them and what they're doing. And like I'm going back to San Diego like on Monday, as long as I don't get COVID too,
Starting point is 00:36:38 then I'm going back to San Diego like on Monday. And I just haven't seen them in like months and months and months, but it's not like for lack of talking and all that stuff. It's just, you know, I think if we were all in like the same city, it would be that coming up together would have been way more entwined. I think distance is just definitely that thing. Like I think mega 64 love the reason that we always poked fun at rooster teeth is because we knew you guys could take it because you were the big kid and It like didn't
Starting point is 00:37:08 We were punching as first we can we were concerned. We were punching way up Way up when we were doing stuff like that and we at rooster teeth We just like to punch we didn't care what direction We just like you guys were punching up and we were just like happy to punch back. It's like, we just always had our fists cocked and ready to go. It's fun, it's cool. You build like a lot of, I think it's,
Starting point is 00:37:34 I think it's important to find people in industry like this who not just that you like, but can like, they get what you're doing. Mm-hmm. And I think that's really hard. I think it's really hard to find people. Going back, circling back to what you were talking about earlier, like celebrities are star struck by or celebrities running to an event.
Starting point is 00:37:53 It's like, megast 64 was always the friends we had at pretty much every event we ever went to. And it got to the point where like event organizers would put us together like our booths close to each other. So, you know, we could hang out. Because then you, if our booths were close to each other, they would become more of an attraction that people wanted to come see the interaction between.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And it got, you know, it was to the point where, you know, even going to like overseas events or like no matter what crazy event it was, like I knew that at least, if no one else from Rochita was there, that at least Megas 64 was there. I remember a few years ago, I went to MindCon,
Starting point is 00:38:27 the Minecraft Convention, when it was at Disneyland Paris. Oh, that's right. Yeah, and it's like, Rocco was there. Rocco? For some reason. Rocco and Derek were at MindCon in Paris.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And oh man. I was in a video with them for the Wii U. It's like, can you, can we, you know, they came up like, can we just shoot something real fast? And it's like, yeah, sure, why not? And it's like, got to hang out with them there. We remember one time we were at a Pax East. I don't remember everyone that was there,
Starting point is 00:38:56 but it was like after the convention, it closed, we'd gone over to the Renaissance and we were all drinking at the bar there. Remember it was, I know, you know, obviously I was there, Derek Garrett, maybe Sean. And there was like a dude, you know, a lot of these hotels that have like a dude with a guitar, just like playing music and whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And there was like a dude at the bar, like just strumming on the guitar, just like covering whatever songs. And then it's like very casually at like a very, just like conversational level, Derek turns to me and just says, if that guy plays, I got five on it, like, in 20 bucks.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And the guy playing the guitar somehow hears him and then does like the smoothest segue ever to, I got five on it. And then Derek just like slams his hands down on the table and then gets up and then puts 20 bucks and the guys get our case. It was like, it's just like all those little memories with them. It's always, it's always so fun.
Starting point is 00:39:42 There's always something going on. That rules. That's so fun. Conventions with you guys was always such a good time because it was always no matter what we were going to do whatever the fuck happened at the convention and whoever came, it didn't matter because we were just hanging out all weekend and it was just going to be that like I remember the fights we would get into like on the Monday after at all the like product We destroyed in a prank and have a look guys. We're trying to make some money here guys You can't keep destroying all the product wrapping up their shit in it Yeah, but we kind of had to yeah, you have to and it's like it's fun to but we I remember at I think
Starting point is 00:40:22 Pax it at the time just packs like regular packs there. We had a mega 64 shirt that was in like a women's cut and we never had that, but it also wasn't selling. So we just we put one on you, Jeff and it's you and this whiff. Sure. It looks like you're going to fucking explode out of it and you just start going, eh? Eh? It is so, I don't know why that's like burned in my brain's fucking great.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Uh, that's it. There are so many, there are so many conventions we did and so many like hygiene sentientigans that like I'll see them come up from time to time, posted on social media and it'll be like watching a movie that I've never seen before. Oh yeah. It's just little to no memory of all of it, but man, I just remember warm, good, drunken, stupid times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Yeah. That's exactly. Let's go way to put it. It's exactly what it was. I remember, you know, you're talking about packs when it was just packs before they had all the different ones. You know, I was at the, I think, the jacket you were there too. We were at the first packs ever back when it was still in Bellevue at the made out.
Starting point is 00:41:27 The stinky packs. It was the stinky packs because they did some experiments with it. They didn't pan out. Like the first packs, the hall was open 24 hours. So like people could, like the convention floor itself, like the show floor that we would work at was not 24 hours. But the rest of the convention center, like the free play console area, you know, tabletop area, like all of that stuff was up to 24 hours. So people would just like camp out there and not bathe or take care of any personal hygiene.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So it ended up getting really stinky. But what the thing I remember most about that and like a big lesson I learned that I realized that we could never do a 24 hour event. Was that in the middle of the night like it through your four in the morning? Some people showed up and cut all the pack spanners down and stole them. Like it went up onto the railings with like a little exacto knife or a box cutter, cut all the straps and it fell to the floor. There were people down on the first floor waiting for it, got them and just ran out the front door with it.
Starting point is 00:42:25 And it's like, oh, every single, all the big signage was stolen at like three or four in the morning. So that's crazy. Yeah. Wow. How many, I think there were the first two or three packs is where out at the main power center. Definitely the first two.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Maybe the first three, where at that main power center before we go over to Seattle. I think it was two, but yeah, and then we're like maybe 2,500 people there at the first one, so I sound right, but maybe 900 and then 2,500 to the second one. I had a very, I had a long-running street square. I had been to every packs
Starting point is 00:43:02 until they started them in Australia. Like I'd been in every packs out in Seattle. I'd been in every packs until they started them in Australia. Like I'd been every packs out in Seattle. I'd been every packs on the East Coast. I went to the first two in Australia and then once they started sending it to me, once they started packs out, I was like, I can't keep doing this. And like, I finally had to stop. But I went to like every single,
Starting point is 00:43:16 like it was a really small group of people that had been to like every single one uninterrupted. That first packs at the Maidenbauer, do you remember that was where they gave us the three folding tables that we assigned autographs from and people would give us a DVD and we'd go down the line. Do you remember this Gus? And that was where we caught Joel signing his name,
Starting point is 00:43:38 because we'd been like, I'd be like, Jeff Fink, Griff, got the time I was Jeff Fink still, or Gus Sarola Simmons. And we caught Joel signing his name, Joel Hayman Joel, instead of Kaboos. I will say. He had done it probably 50 times before Ricardo. Yeah, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:43:54 In his defense, I've come around to that. Like now, I scribble my autograph and then under it, I print Gus, because I see people post online all the time, like, who signature is this? No, totally, I'll do that on anything non-RVB related, but in RVB, I'm signing Jeff Ramsay Griff. Otherwise, I'll sign Jeff Ramsay, and sometimes I'll say Jeff.
Starting point is 00:44:15 On an RVB thing, I will write Simmons, you are correct. But it wasn't that he was, there was no thought behind it. He was just being dumb in the moment and didn't realize that he wasn't signing Kaboos. Yeah, that first year, we set that up, like, I don't know if we were still learning how to do events or they were still learning
Starting point is 00:44:32 how to do events, like when you walked into the maiden bower, we were on tables just to the left of the main door coming in. Like it wasn't even like on a show floor or anything. And I think the second year we were up on the show floor across from that big sphere, you remember that? Like people could get in and like run around. Uh, but yeah, that first year was weird. So it's like, you walked in the door and we were there like to get your badge. It was like, get your badge. Say hi to Rocheteeth. Uh, I,
Starting point is 00:44:57 I, the two things I remember about that event other than that are, and I don't know why and maybe, maybe you'll remember why. I just remember that we closed up for the day and we walked up a hill and we all ate it outside at a Mexican restaurant. And I just remember the weather was really nice and it was like magic hour and there were like six or seven of us and we were just eating outside in this patio and it was just like a good moment.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I don't even remember who was there. I know you were there, I was there. I assume the rest of the more. That building's gone. Like all of the buildings gone through such transformations. It's like, it's a high rise now. It was like a little squat Mexican restaurant before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 The other thing I remember, and I think you were with me, and you might remember this, is we stopped into a liquor store to get a bottle of something. And there was a husband and wife who were like maybe in their 70s, and they had a shopping cart, and they were just dumping bottles of cheap vodka
Starting point is 00:45:48 into the shopping cart, and there must have been 25, and they were just having old couple squabbles, and we realized that it wasn't for an event or anything, they were just loading up as they do. And I remember looking at Gus and being like, we're gonna be those people. We also took a friend of ours to have their first alcoholic drink ever. I thought first
Starting point is 00:46:13 packs, do you remember that? We went down to the red robin that was like down the street from the convention center, red robin. That's anymore restaurant. Like the burger place. They've got a good towel. Yeah. Yeah. We took a friend of ours who'd like, had never had an alcoholic drink. And it was like, he was legal, just like he had just never drank. And he was like, I wanna, you know, he was, God, he was probably in his late 20s by then.
Starting point is 00:46:34 And it was like, I wanna finally try alcohol and have my first drink ever. Yeah. And I'm talking down and ordered like, the sweetest, easiest to drink drink on the menu. I think we ask like, what's the sugariest drink you have that you can make? And it was like some super tall pink drink. I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Yeah, I remember that. He, yeah, well, I guess he had been straight edge up until that point and had decided that he wanted to give that life away. Yeah, that's what, man, I totally forgot about that. That was an event, that was an eventful pact. It was, it was a,. I totally forgot about that. Yeah, that was an event. That was an eventful packs. It was it was a we were still Young and energetic. Yeah It's also where
Starting point is 00:47:13 Then maybe that's where they debuted, but that's that's where we met them for the first time like we met all the the frag dolls like the Ubisoft Like promotional female gaming team. They were there at the first packs. As you'd get the invite to park fries house for tacos and then you just, that's I think we met some of them there. Yeah, yeah. We forgot about that. We forgot about the tacos.
Starting point is 00:47:35 We're winding down so we need to review the coffee and get into some anarchy. How's your, we all made our own coffee today. I assume. Yeah, made my typical Kings Coast blend. Is it hot coffee, Jeff? Hot coffee today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Wow. And guess you also made hot coffee, hot coffee, uh, Maricano. Oh, did you make it a mark in American? Yeah, I've got a little espresso machine. I pull espresso shots and make my Maricano. It's not fancy. I bought just an espresso machine at Target. It's like, Emily tells me I have, uh, we have like a camp stove, uh, in storage that
Starting point is 00:48:12 we can gas powered camp stove. Oh, good. We have that. Okay. Cool. For like the deal. Addy thing. Then this, then this works out, I think, um, I might have propane around here somewhere.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Oh, I, we definitely get pro, we just go to Target and get some propane, baby. That shouldn't be too hard. So that's very interesting. That's okay, okay, okay, okay. I think that, yeah, that's the propane. Oh, you're, it is off the ship. You have it, have it. Okay, well, you also have COVID. So
Starting point is 00:48:48 Thanks. I appreciate that. How would you how would you rate your coffees? You know, the worst part of it was I was off that day. I came in like I had the day off. I came in just to record and uh, and got fucking from you. Oh, it's true. I'm just happy that I'm not in as bad a shape as I feared. It's clearly was the COVID affecting me, not my, my de-credit body. Coffee's fine. It's like my standard go-to here at home. It's not as good as the best coffee we've had on the show. I give myself like seven, I don't know, six maybe, somewhere on there.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Okay. I'm a Jeff. I'm I give myself like seven, I don't know, six maybe somewhere on there. Okay. I'm a Jeff gamma give myself a six point nine. Wow. Yeah. Not the best. I'm breaking the streak of 10s. Okay. I had a friend who roast for a place called nearby coffee and he just made this coffee that
Starting point is 00:49:40 I guess they repackaged for a place called Lamp Post and it is like fermented watermelon rinsed. I think I talked about it last time. Yeah, yeah, it is fantastic. I love it. I made a cup of that and the whole time I was sipping on it. I got my last sip left and it was sweet like juice. I love it.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Now, do they invent the process of watermelon rinsing or is that something that was no no, I think what they do is take I have to ask my buddy Robbie, but he take, they take the regular beans that they're roasting, whatever that might be any Ethiopia or whatever that it is. And then the other beans that have been with these fermented watermelon rinse or whatever, they take some of those blend it with like sort of take it, put the beans together. And so you're not getting this big overwhelming flavor, but you're getting a lot of that flavor from the watermelon rinsed beans. It's very good, very weird. It is a lot of weird. It sounds weird. It's very good. Well, we'll have to make some over a campfire
Starting point is 00:50:47 stove. It'll be pretty good. So we should get to anarchy me anything where people are asking questions. This is something that I, I think this is a very good sort of question or thing posited by the better devil who's a mod on our slash and my podcast. Oh, thank you for your service. Yep. It says, well, with RTX two months away, I think a fun piece of non-cannon content that we are going to make canon now because there's just not enough time. Yeah. Could be talking about all the touristy places in Austin to visit, best
Starting point is 00:51:21 restaurants, cool venues, stuff within walking distance, the convention center, that sort of thing. So here's what I'm sort of pivoting that to. I think every week we should give a recommendation. If you're coming to Austin, I think we should give a recommendation for something that you should eat, drink, see, do be around that kind of a thing. So is there something? Like the kind of like, are you familiar with the NFT guides that not for tourist guides? Oh, that's not what I thought. My mind went somewhere else. Dude, when you said NFT guides, I thought you were becoming an NFT guy and I got some fun.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Oh, no, no, I didn't even make the connection to it. Yeah, no, not the non-fungible token thing. The not for tourist, like guides it for cities. And they'll tell you like, you know, don't go here in Chicago for pizza go here for Chicago. Like the inside locals track. So. So this is an MNFT, an M a and F T. But in a good way, let's say the NFT word anymore. We're in we're in NFT. We're in the NFTs now. We're NFT guys dying here. But we're NFT guys in a different way. It's different. It's a different thing. It's not what you think. Like, if you look at, if you Google NFT guide, Austin, it's all crypto stuff. Like, like, don't go to, it'd be like, you definitely get barbecue in
Starting point is 00:52:38 Austin. Don't go to, people tell you to go to Cooper's on Congress. Don't go there, go to Michael Thuey or go to like a style switch or La Barbeque. Like those kind of. Yeah, I will. If you do go to Cooper's, I'll give you the inside scoop. You can get, they have like this giant pork chop there. It's a barbecue place over there on Congress. It's not too far from the convention center. They have this giant pork chop you can get.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And I don't know. I don't think it's on the menu. And I don't think many people know about it. You can ask them to dunk it. And they'll take it and then just dunk it in their barbecue sauce and then put it on the plate for you. It's so fucking good that way. If you go to coopers and you gotta get the pork chop,
Starting point is 00:53:17 it's so thick, it's amazing. Ask them to dunk it. You'll be glad you did. Also, that's what I'm looking for. That's the kind of recommendation. Damn. Gus, you have been to the original Cooper's in Lano, right? Didn't you make a special trip out there?
Starting point is 00:53:30 Is it as good as they say? Yeah, it's really good. It's really solid. The one here, and I've been to the one here, and I've been to the one in New Braunfels as well. They're good, they're excellent as well. But of course, the original's always gonna be gonna have like a special place.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. I don't know Cooper's. I don't know this place at all. but of course the original is always gonna be, gonna have a special place. I don't know Coopers. I don't know this place at all. They were known for many years as being like, Coopers and Lana was supposedly the best barbecue at the Texas for a long time. I don't think that's the case anymore, but. Yeah, I feel like they expanded.
Starting point is 00:53:59 People don't talk about them as much anymore. Now that you can get it more conveniently, now that there's other locations, people I think take it for granted, it like in the other place. But it's not. It's really as like it's really a cut above. Like I think we all, I don't know, I can't speak for everyone here, but like I think most people are like, yeah, Rudy's just fine. It's great. It's easy to get. I think Cooper's better than Rudy's. Um, Cooper's is, uh, Cooper's is, you did the Cooper's downtown is better than Rudy's?
Starting point is 00:54:19 Um, I have not had great experiences there. Only if you get the dunked pork chop. Okay. That's what I go for. And the other thing is they have free beans. Yay. And the beans are good. So every week we'll give recommendations of places
Starting point is 00:54:37 for people to go. I think it's a great idea. Come into RTX July 7th through 9th. Like you got to have something to do outside of just waiting to see us drink some coffee on stage. Austin is a pizza city. Get some pizza. It's absolutely true.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Don't, I'm a tell you right now, everybody's gonna tell you to get a home slice. Get skip it this time and go to Boothalena or go to VIA 313 or go to that new place where bacon used to be. That's supposed to be the hotspot. There's a place there? Yeah, so there was a place called Bacon. It was like at 11th and- Lamar, like right over there?
Starting point is 00:55:11 Right by, like on the other side of Lamar. Yeah, just east of it. Just east of Lamar. And that's now a pizza restaurant that's supposedly like the best in time. It's a pizza place now? Yeah, that's what they say. It's funny, I drove by that place.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like I drove up Lamar the other day and It's funny. I drove by that place. Like I drove up Lamar the other day and I looked over there and didn't notice anything. Samitaro West. Maybe when you go to their website, your cursor becomes a slice of pizza like it is. That's how you know it's good. That's how you know it's 1996. No one does it anymore. No one does that anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:44 What happened? 1996 it has written no one does that anymore what happened if Everything's on phones. So I think that this is sort of played out If you want to go get like an awesome Austin burger. Obviously we recommend casino burger That's like a random passage. You're gonna burn through all our suggestions. It's true. It's true. Okay. I'll stop But I'm just okay. Tune in next week to find out other burger places you But I'm just okay. Tune in next week to find out other burner places you did. Um, uh, Chupi, the cat did some, uh, uh, uh, did some ranking on some, uh, French fries and P Terry's finished very high.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Oh, I saw a post on the Austin subreddit a couple of weeks ago, it was last week, the week before someone's like, what's the Instagram handle of that cat that dresses up and goes around town? And I was like, oh, they're looking for a choopy. It's ever through the conversation. Like a choopy for choopy. The choopy for a convert. Hey, guess if you feel like it a little bit of homework,
Starting point is 00:56:33 the other day I was trying to think of stuff for this podcast. And I created a list of things in Austin that I've never done in like the 29 years that I've been here that you should do that are like favorites, like places I've never been or things I've never done in like the 29 years that I've been doing that you should do that are like favorites, like places I've never been or things I've never done. So if anything over the next,
Starting point is 00:56:50 between now and we'll be recording it and pops into your head, write it down. We'll have a little like. I've got a place, yeah, yeah, I've got it. Oh, that's cool. Most of my life are like events, but I'd like to sit down. I've got an embarrassing admission.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I'd like to put on that list that we can talk about next time. Wow, what a tease. Never been to HB before. Listen, I'm a Randall Stan. Jesus Christ. That'll do it for this episode of Anima. Hopefully not all three of us have COVID, but we'll see. You can follow us at Anima Podcasts on Twitter and on Instagram. Here's the thing about photos from this episode might just be posting photos
Starting point is 00:57:25 from all the episodes in lieu of any pictures from this one because we are like, there's no one. What are we going to do? You know what I mean? Here, hold on. Oh, just taking a picture. Yeah, we're going to be cracking there too. There you go. Great. Perfect. You follow us at AMA podcast, Instagram and on Twitter, keep up to date with everything on the show. Our slash Amma Podcast is the subreddit that we really truly don't have anything to do with, but great place to put your anarchy topics. You can tweet at us.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Your anarchy me anything questions. I think those have been very good. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we're all testing negative. Bye. Thank you for sending that picture, Jeff. Hopefully, we're all testing negative by the thank you for sending that picture, Jeff. Hopefully we're all testing negative by the next time we're doing an episode so we can get together and have a fun special guest on.
Starting point is 00:58:10 We'll have to wait and see. Jeff, Gus, any last words, parting thoughts for the folks at home. Hey, COVID's over. The pandemic's done. Congratulations, we made it. If you get it, it's on you now. You got to pay out a pocket.
Starting point is 00:58:24 No. You had plenty, you had plenty of If you get it, it's on you now. You gotta pay out a pocket. No. You had plenty, you had plenty of years to get COVID already. Three years. Okay, goodbye. Describe the show between newcomer and a more familiar way. Do you like apples?
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