ANMA - What Are Your Fuck You Places?

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Good morning, Gus! Coming to you from in between takes on a new production, Gus & Geoff have a cup of coffee from Jo's and talk about the I Love You So Much sign, Geoff hates Austin Java for some reason, Going to Casino El Camino or The Ritz, Lance vs Neato Burrito, Foam parties, Street festivals, Working downtown, Visiting Baltimore, top convention, and so much more. Brew a cup. ANMA time. Tell a friend about ANMA so maybe they'll guess the name. This episode is sponsored by Better Help at http://betterhelp.com/anma , DoorDash by downloading the DoorDash app + code ANMA, and Black Adam in theaters and IMAX internationally on October 19, and in North America on October 21 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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lives in Cornelio. But that was all episode 19. This is episode 20. Episode 20. Good morning, Gus. It's not morning, it's afternoon. Good afternoon. Via morning, Gus. We are still drinking coffee, though. We picked up coffee from Joe's. Did you go to the drive-through on Hancock? Yeah, just like we're taping this at the studio today

just because of time constraints. So I had to find a local coffee shop that was close by that we hadn't done. And so I just went to the Joe's over there at Hancock's Center. I actually stopped. So I used to be big fan of Joe's. The one on, not the one on South Congress

that everybody got at the I love you so much Joe's. Although we've all been there. Right. But there was the one that opened up on second street Oh, yeah, oh wait, what's up? So that an Austin Java? No, it's always been a Joe's there was an Austin Java across the street Okay, but the I need I used to go to the I used to go to the Austin Java I'll tell you I was just I was just telling Emily about Austin Java Let me let put a pin in that I want to talk about Austin Java for a second because maybe you can help me jog a memory

But for a long time I was going to that Joe's. This is like when Millie was just like a toddler, right? Went all the time and kind of became a regular, because second street district was kinda happening. It was kind of exciting. It was like the start of it. It was kind of something. And it was like, it was kind of fun.

It was kind of like when Rainy Street first started with like Garage, Mahal, and you were like, oh, this is kind of, this is kind of cool. Yeah, no idea. You couldn't draw the line out and see what was gonna happen. People still lived there. Yeah, this is kind of, this is kind of cool. Yeah, no idea. You couldn't draw the line on and see what was gonna happen. People still lived there. Yeah, people still lived there, right?

But so I would go to that Joe's like every Sunday. And I went for like months. I actually knew one of the guys that worked there because he had been like a roommate of a neighbor of mine. And so I felt like a local. And one of the ladies, this is like maybe the 30th time I'd been to Joe's and ordered the same thing. This broken egg sandwich they have.

And this lady goes, who I thought I was like, like on a friendly basis with, you know? Like a regular basis with. She was about to correct you. I get the feeling. I get the feeling. And I go in and one day and she goes,

she goes here and she goes, so are you guys in town from? And I go, what do you mean? She goes, well, are you visiting Austin? And I was like, no, I live here. And she goes, you live here? And I go, yeah, I'm here every, I order from you all the time. And she's like, huh, why do you come here?

And I'm like, why wouldn't I? And she's like, I just mostly tourists. And then, and I stopped coming after that. I was like, I feel weird. Yeah, because you have to make an effort to go there. Yeah. It's not convenient. The only reason I would go to the Austin job is like if I had meetings downtown, like when we were doing our kicks planning stuff, it was convenient. It was right there. So that's why I would go to that Austin job. I don't think you're involved in this memory, but maybe you are. The original, or at least the

first Austin job I was aware of was that like 11th and Lamar. Cross the street from the tavern. Yeah, right over there, it closed down. Yeah, it closed fairly recently. I don't like Austin Java because of that location and a bad experience I had, but I don't remember what the bad experience was. It's fun. It was so long ago that I remember I don't like it, but I have no memory of why I don't remember what the bad experience was. But it was so long ago that I remember I don't like it. And but I have no memory of why I don't like it. I never liked that location either. Really?

I like going to Austin Java. I would never go to that location. I don't know why though. Did something happen to us? Something must have happened to us. Because I like I had a visceral reaction when I drive by. And honestly, this is petty, but when I drive by it and it's all spray painted and closed down I go good.

And I don't know why and I was even thinking of myself the other day like this is dumb that you are irrationally against this location and you don't even know why. Like your anger shouldn't outlive the memory of the anger. That's what being old is. Yeah. It's dumb. It's funny. I have no idea why.

I don't remember the last time I probably went to that was almost 20 years ago. Probably need to. Probably need to. I don't know. I don't know. I never like going to that location. I think I might have been to that location. Last time I went to that location,

I'd have been two wives ago. You know what I mean? Like, it might be pre-rooster tea. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just don't know why, but I hate it. Same. And I don't know why. No one downtown, it's fine.

I never went to that one because I didn't like the, it's fine. Your hate extended to other ones? The same company, right? But I have no way. I know, no, it makes no sense. Would you recognize how, I feel like I have to, I feel like we need to do an episode of Austin.

We have to. I feel like I need an Austin Java redemption episode because I don't wanna carry this anger and vitriol for some For some Slight that happened to me so long ago. I don't remember the slight We'll take our next episode there. We'll be Austin Java redemption Our name yeah, the Austin Java redemption. We really get you should go in and like sort of like you know Shake shake hands with the employees

Because the location I'm thinking of is right across you from that Joe is going to ask us the same thing. What are you all in town for? I'm recording a podcast while you're visiting Austin. There is nothing worse than thinking you're a local or a regular in a place and finding out you are not. I had to stop going to one coffee shop because I became too much of a regular. That that flight path, what we did episode like two then.

I just had a coffee with Trevor there over the weekend, definitely. It's really close to the studio and I used to stop in all the time, almost every morning coming into the office. And at one point, they, like I would always get the double Americano. And at one point, they changed the way

they made double Americano. So it was less water. And so the Americano was stronger and it came in a small like a shorter cup Totally fine But I liked it more the old way So I got in the habit of asking if they could make it the old way in the taller cup Yeah, and so I

Started going there so often that I would walk in the door and they would start making it immediately Wow, yeah, and I was like one I can never get anything different. Two, I am now that asshole who asks for something in a specific way. Yeah, they're like, oh, shit, here he is. I had to stop going. Yeah. No fault of theirs. It's my fault. I was like, I can't keep doing this. Yeah, if anything, they were doing their job too well. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why I was glad when we did the episode there that air going in. Yeah, so that's why I was glad when we did the episode there that airquin in Are there are there any places in town where you have

Interrational or maybe a rational hatred for like that that you're just like I that places doesn't exist to me Like I feel about the original Austin Java or I'm sure if we drove around I could find I feel about the original Austin Java or I'm sure if we drove around I could find point that to fucking places. Yeah, plenty of places like that off the top of my head. The no nothing off the top of my head that I can think of right now. Do you have more fuck you places? Same. I probably I'm sure I do. Yeah. I'm a list as I'm driving around of places that I can. Do you have fuck you places? What? That's a title list. Absolutely.

I'm changing everything so it's that. I didn't realize that you guys had that. Oh, yeah. Spite. Oh, Spite. When are we talking about this, the other, like dudes, that's one of the reasons this company exists.

Like, yeah, we've covered the spite angle in the past. I saw, so I was thinking the other day in between the last time I recorded an episode in this one about how, you know, how much we've talked about the past and places we used to go and talked about going downtown, talked about casino extensively. But I realized we've left a rather large blind spot in our old trips downtown. I think you're about to mention oceans. No, we kind of briefly mentioned them. This other place we've not even mentioned at all. The Ritz.

Oh, the Ritz. Which is like the whole bar that eventually became the Alamo Ritz downtown. Yeah. It was a far, far, far. It was a Ritz, it was a place called the Roxy, I think. But it was the Ritz for a long time. Yeah. It was a false. It was a Ritz. It was a place called the Roxy, I think. But it was the Ritz for a long time.

The whole time we went there. And it was like anytime we were going downtown, it was we were always either at Casino or the Ritz. Yeah. It was just like a little further down on the right. And they had like, it was a big open space, had like Fuzball tables, great jukebox, that little balcony.

You played a lot of pool there. Yeah, it was, it was definitely like a really cool hangout spot. I remember when they finally closed that place down in Oh, four, oh, five. I remember when the fuck that was, like I was really sad about that. It was not a middle of later. Little in and that, yeah.

I don't fucking remember. It's been a while. But you're right. Yeah. I used to hang out there a lot with Frank. Yeah. Yeah. And you guys used to, dude, can I tell you something?

I do not like Fuzball. Dude. I thought he was gonna say I don't like Frank. I love Frank. I love Frank as much as anybody can love Frank. I do not like Fuzball. I've never liked Fuzball. So much fun.

I fucking hate it. I don't think it's fun to play. And Gus and Frank would sit there and play Fuzball for hours. And I would be like, I would be so fucking tuned out. So do not want to turn. So much fun. Don't I'd go over and play pool by myself or with some other dude? It's funny that your memory was playing pool.

Cause I'm like, I never played pool at the ritz. I play pool all the time. I hate pool. I can't stand playing pool. Maybe that's why it worked as a good compromise. Do you remember when Lance McKee stole Nito Burrito's phone and went into the bathroom and took a picture of his dick and then didn't tell him about that.

And then Nito Burrito got so fucking angry. He was so mad about it. I totally forgot about that. For some reason you told me- It's not a good dick. You shouldn't be taking pictures of him. You shouldn't be impressed. And Lance is like,

eh, it's the only one I got. He didn't give a fuck. He was on face. Lance was awesome. It was awesome. When you mentioned that, for some reason now, like I can instantly re-picture the Ritz bathroom in my mind.

I know the exactly out of that bathroom. I haven't been in that bathroom in probably you to close to 20 years now. I know that I like, if that bathroom was like, I could walk in with my eyes closed right now into that bathroom and go take a piss if I needed to. We spent so much time at the fucking ritz. And one of the reasons I thought I was thinking about the ritz

was there was a pretty popular post on the Austin subreddit, shout out to the Austin subreddit. Was it the guy who's like, I missed the way Austin used to be? Do you want to reminisce with me? Well, somebody posted that? Not quite like that. This one was more like,

this one was titled Austin in the late 90s, and was posted by Warped or a TV. And he just wrote, like, I'm just curious how many people in here were residents who remember Austin in the late 90s. And he talks about like his favorite places at the time and what he was doing. And the whole threat, it's not like anyone bitching, or the whole threat is kind of like this podcast,

or just people reminiscing about places that were important to them, places that thought were really cool back then, and like what happened to it? And it's just like going through and reading, some places we mentioned, like one person talked about, WANFU, the one over there at Wyrgashat. Oh, right, right. I did see that. They were saying that they used to live across the street from something. Yeah. But there were like a bunch of other like bars and restaurants and stuff that it's not there weren't a ton of places that I felt like we we frequented but it was some places like oh right right like I forgot about that like someone mentioned these weren't bars that we went to regularly but like the copper tank yeah that was like kind of additionally that wasn't

really our speed but it was like down the additionally. That wasn't really our speed, but it was like down the road or someone else mentioned. Did that place burn down or something? No, they might have eventually, they closed on there. I remember they became like an event space. Like a event space, don't I remember? They're gonna fire or something.

There may have been. And then, like we did a RT thing there once or something, maybe it was in an event space. We did a long time ago. Of course, like Liberty Law, it's the ginger man, which I think we did mention. El Soli La Luna, remember that was back when it was like on South Congress.

Dude, El Soli La Luna was my first, my first day, like breakfast spot in Austin, way back in the day. They moved over to Sixth Street, and then that location became the snack bar over there, like next to Austin Motel, on South Congress. And now it's something else.

Now it's called it's Joanne's. It's good. I've been there. I ate there a couple of East. I don't know if it's a good fabric. Joanne's. Yeah. Um, yeah.

And it was just interesting going through and reading essentially what was other people's and. Uh, is that the name of the show? OPA, OPN, but yeah, it was just really interesting, but there were also some places I don't remember at all. Okay. Bob Poppular? I know the name. It was not a bar we would have gone to.

Okay, yeah. The other places this person mentioned in addition to Bob Poppular, were all like places we wouldn't go to. Okay, yeah. The other places this person mentioned in addition to Bob Poppular were all like places we wouldn't go to. Right. Right. What's our recognize is like Bob Poppular, paradox, the Roxy, Spiros, element, a sukar. Oh, God, we're sparrows. Oh, yeah. Yeah, those were not those places were not our scene. No, not at all. But when I read that guy's post about paradox, it reminded me about like a phenomenon in the late 90s that thankfully died.

I remember paradox, I remember they had radio ads all the time because they had phone parties. Yeah, and I was like, oh, I totally forgot about phone parties and how that was a thing for a while in the late 90s. Big deal, yeah. I was like, oh, what's a phone party? Oh, you just filled the club with foam and it's disgusting and filthy. And you

don't know if you're like kicking someone on the ground who's jacking off or fucking or something. Absolutely. The worst. I think paradox was another reason we stayed away from paradox. It was like more of a dance place. Yeah. I think it was 18 and up. It was 18 and up. You and I don't know what they do with. If I remember, I think it was 18 and up. It was 18 and up. You and I, they do it. If I remember, I think it was also open to like 4 a.m. Probably. Yeah. Yeah. It was, since it was 18 and up, and they didn't,

like, I guess they could stay open past last call, and people would just end up going there and, I don't know, doing fighting. Yeah. Just, yeah. It's like, paradox. I remember there're fucking commercials. I, that's the worst time to be down town,

or at least I'm sure it's the same now, haven't been down town in years. But it was always the worst time to be down there was right after last call. You got, if you're a dude walking around at last call on 6th Street, there's like a 25% chance you're gonna get into a fight. Yeah, whether you started,

someone might just come up and start a fight with you. It's like stay the fuck away from that part of town at that time. It's not worth it. Absolutely not. It's just, it's just angry aggro dudes that didn't meet any girls looking to, that are too drunk and ready to fight.

Yeah. It's happened to us, not at last call, but just walking down the street. There was at one time at the one that always stands out is we were doing the screening at the draft house, the original location. And we'd seen, we've seen season one, we'd seen season one a thousand times.

So while it was playing, we ducked out, we're gonna go to the, I think we're going to Fado right around the corner from there. Yeah. Remember there was that dude behind me who wanted to fight me for some reason? He just started screaming at me and like his friends had to come and pull him away. Yeah. Remember there was that dude behind me who wanted to fight me for some reason? He just started screaming at me and his friends had to come and pull him away.

Yeah, just walking on the street. Yeah, just walking down the street going to a bar and some dude decides you're the target. You're gonna, you're the asshole. Hahaha. Do you remember a bar? It's kind of where, um, fuck man, what was that place we used to always go to

to eat lunch at? That was like a bar restaurant. And on Sixth Street, a little further down west on the left, the Belmont. Oh, the Belmont, yeah. There was a place close to the Belmont and then maybe South of Block or Half of Block. The you and my first wife and I tried to go to one night,

and I don't remember why. I think I friend from work or somebody that invited us there, and it wasn't our speed, and we didn't wanna go, and we walked up, and I was wearing a Ramones t-shirt, and they wouldn't let me in, and they were like, I'm sorry, you can't wear that t-shirt in here.

And I was like, why? And he's like, it's not appropriate. And I was like, okay, well, I have a, I was like, you had a collared shirt on. And I was like, well, I have a different t-shirt and I might, in my car, I'll just go put it on, and I was like, okay, well, I have a, I was like, you had a collared shirt on. And I was like, well, I have a different t-shirt and I might, in my car, I'll just go put it on and he goes, don't bother. And I was like, why, he goes, you're never,

it's never gonna be the right shirt for you. I was like, okay. Yeah, what's that? I wanna say, it wasn't even like a nice place or anything. It might have been like, the fox and the hound or something. Might have been something like that, yeah. I remember the fox and the hound. Could have been. It fox and the hound or something. Might have been something like that, yeah. Yeah, I remember the fox and the hound. Could have been it.

Because it was right around that area. Yeah. It was like where the old waterloo brewery and eventually the gingerman was, the gingerman was right next to the fox and the hound if I remember right. So I would have been right around there, I think. Yeah, it's funny that it's funny to think that

there were places like that with that gaping element way back then. Because I felt like that it's still true to a lesser extent, but definitely back then, like nobody really cared what you were wearing or what you looked like in most places that you went to. There were definitely like some uppity, maybe kind of douchey places that I could. Very not Austin. Right. So it's strange to think that that was happening all the way back then.

I feel like you definitely see that a lot more now. I think the photo, the black and white photo that Tim Pipe took of me and you and Becca and her friend Dory. Do you remember that one? Yeah. It's a cute photo. It's just like, we're just really happy in it and young.

I think that photo was taken at the Ritz. Was it? I thought that photo was taken at Red Fizz. I, why would we go to Red Fizz? I didn't think of that. I think we, I think wasn't that, okay, I don't know. Tell me if we have to edit this story, if we have to cut this.

This, I thought that photo was taken the night that, yeah, cut that part. No, don't cut the conversation, cut that part. Uh-huh. And you are correct, we were at Red Fizz. Yeah. You're jogged by memory. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the reason I remember that.

Yeah, I think that was at Red Fizz, which was not a place that we typically go to. That was over on West Fifth. Yeah. God, I don't even know what's there now. Rainbow Kala Company, was that still there? It was like right around that area. I don't even know what's there now. Rainbow Calacompanie, was that still there? It was like right around that area. I don't think it's still there, but it's that area, yeah.

It was that there was another bar used to go to sometimes by yourself. It was right next to there. What was that place called? I don't remember. Blue, no, no. I don't know. It was redfish.

W something or. It was like right next to it. It was like a meat market. Yeah. For like, I don't remember that sort of you like, like right next to me. It was like a meat market for like, and I remember that's where you like Gus was, you know, Gus was single dude. He was trying to date, but he did not want to date around me.

So he would like go to bars without me to buy himself. Was that a secret Gus situation? No, I think it was more of like, he and let me crank up in a style, which I got. Like Jeff would, if I was trying to meet someone, Jeff would be making fun of me the whole time. It was terrible for your confidence. One, and then two, Jeff's also married. Like me the whole time with this terrible, terrible for your confidence, one,

and then two, Jeff's also married. Like, you know, what's he gonna do? Like, going to a place like that. He's only entertaining men. Is to make fun of me. What you're getting goes back, and I had no confidence to begin with. So going negative on the confidence would have definitely been killer.

That's totally fair. Yeah, and I mean, like. That's totally fair. Yeah. And I mean, look, that's the way it works. I am completely aware that I have not always been easy to be friends with. It's been fun. It's been funny most of the time. Yeah.

What else was there? I can remember that name of that place. I can fucking see it. Yeah. It's called Blue Inside. Yeah, that's why I want to say it was called Blue Something, but of wish I could remember that name of that place. I can fucking see it. Yeah. It's called blue inside. Yeah, that's why I want to say it was called blue something, but I know I'm just saying that. The red fuzz was right there right next door.

Red fuzz was a place that was prettier than it was cool. Yeah. It looked really nice from the outside. Didn't it eventually, was it a hookah bar as well at the time, or was it? I think it started as one and then it kind of transitioned out of that. Yeah, they got rid of that and just became a bar.

I felt like that was another weird fad in the early 2000s where like hookah bars tried to become a thing. Yeah. And then you realize like, oh, this is like smoking a pack of cigarettes and one sitting. Like this is, this is awful for you. It's kind of gross. Yeah, it's pretty gross.

Yeah. I can't imagine that being the thing anymore. Hookah bars and foam parties, man. What a fucking night in downtown Austin. That's, that's 1998 in Austin, right? Yeah. that being the thing anymore. Hookah bars and phone parties around. What a fucking night in downtown Austin. That's 1998 in Austin, right? Yeah. The old days.

How was that getting around at that time? I mean, it was a small place, but like the roads are so goddamn confusing out here to begin with. And it's not like you could GPS your phone in 99, right? Like, I think what we used to do typically when we would go anywhere downtown as we find a place to park and then just walk everywhere.

So it's like we would have regular parking spots. We would always hit up and then start from there. And it was honestly until about 98, 99. It was now maybe about 2001. Yeah. It was still like, like you could go to E-Mos and park in front of E-Mos. Yeah, we'd park on Red River.

You could go to any bar, like not all the time, but I remember like, and there were the secret spots, there was the Texas Teacher Association which you would park out if you were going on the north side. On the north side, there was, I mean honestly, you can park under the bridge now, I wouldn't recommend it. Also, I wouldn't recommend that. Also, I wouldn't not recommend that. But it used to be a very easy place to go. That's where everybody who went to Sixth Street part.

And everybody on Sixth Street, who was like on Sixth Street on a Friday night, they all fit into the park, into the park, into the park, into the park. Like, that's how much smaller it was. Like, everybody went in part there. Yeah. It's funny. I felt like last year, the year before, there was an aerial photo of downtown Austin,

again, posted in the Austin subreddit, and it was amazing how many parking lots there were. Yeah. It was, there weren't very many buildings. There were still a lot of empty land in downtown Austin. So even if, like, we always look for the free places to park, but if you wanted to pay to park, there were definitely plenty of places to go could pay. If you were fucking rich. Or if there were, and this continues to this day, there are also all plenty of free places where a dude will stand there and pretend he's working, and you have to pay him to be able to park in the lot. A lot of that. Yeah, definitely a very common scam. And of course, the people who say, my other favorite is if you say that if you give them five bucks, they'll watch your car for you.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, okay, cool. You're going to fuck with my car. I'm giving you like the very veiled threat against your car. Oh, the good old days. This is a simple grifts back then. Yeah. Yeah. I guess eventually everyone must have like a tank for that stuff. And as the years go on, it fills up and fills up and finally reach one day where you're like, that's it. I'm not doing this anymore.

I would never, you couldn't pay me enough money to park under the bridge and make the walk from there up to Casino on six street. Yeah, even though it's only like two or three blocks. Oh, be the worst three blocks of your life. They're trying, aren't they trying to revitalize that wall or creek area right there, speaking of that little area? I mean, haven't they been talking about revitalizing the wall or creek area since we moved here?

Aren't they putting, aren't they genuinely putting money into it? Like they're trying to make like a river walk. I fucking, I wish they would. There's a lot of untapped potential there. And I mean, God knows you and I had to explore every inch of that fucking area. I would never, you know. Are you talking about what's behind

the four seasons that's right there? That's a little like that. I'm thinking of like on Sabine, where Sabine crosses six street, where the easy tiger used to be. Oh yeah, it does eventually end down there by the four seasons. I think is that not the reason that the easy tiger used to be. Like, yeah, it does eventually end down there by, before seasons.

I think is that not the reason that the easy tiger left or whatever, that like they're trying to do so there? Oh, is it, I thought they, I don't know. I thought they just got fed up with that location. They just, the fucking dog shit location, that's hard to get to. That location was packed all the time too.

Like that easy tiger was such an easy place to take people when you were already downtown. And then it's like, well, there's nowhere to sit. Oh, we can sit outside. Or you're eating by bugs. You look like a... Yeah, it's right next to that, not moving swamp as long. Yeah.

I will say at Christmas time, they do a, like a, like a light display art exhibit under it that's like four blocks long. I always check out, it's really cool. They do? Yeah. How long have they been? I mean, I don't know if they've done it post COVID,

but like when I was living downtown, I did, I went to it two years in a row and I then they, year after I went back, yeah. It's really cool. It was really cool. They just held the Pocon Street Festival for the first time, for the first time since COVID, like two or three weeks ago. Yeah.

Do you ever, ever go to that? I used to go all the time. I didn't go to this one because I didn't know about it. It's also, the country festival is another one of those things where I hear about it and I get excited for like a street festival. Like, oh, that sounds cool. And then you go down there and you go, like,

I don't want to buy any. I don't want to buy a picture that somebody painted on a saw blade. And I don't want to buy dip and dots. So I guess it's kind of cool idea, but not for me anymore. I'm glad that it exists for a place where kids can go get face painted and people can buy full cart. You had a full cart kind of guy.

Remember that guy who used to like sit on the sidewalk and like do spray painting paintings? That dude was revolutionary. Big fan, so that's talking about art, maybe one. Not a big fit, well, I mean, once again, I would never want a poster board spray painted to look like an alien landscape with seven moons in the sky and a bunch of stars,

but it was like, he would, there's a bit of version of this guy in every city in America, right? But the guy that would come and do it in Austin in the mid 90s was really good at it and it was just fun to watch them. So you would, you would post up at the parking lot on the west side, northwest side of Red River,

which would be where he was, right there. And he would have a crowd of like 50 people around him, just at all mine, he would just like spray paint, put a thing up, take him like 15 minutes to make his like spaceship, fucking lunar escape thing he would do, and then he just set it off to the side of dry, and then he'd start on the next one,

and people would just buy him for like 50 bucks a pop. And then they'd walk around with a fucking giant poster board like all night, and he just got destroyed, because they were fucking getting hammered at blind pig pub or wherever. Yeah. But he was awesome. He was really good. He was very good. I mean, I, I, he must have cleaned up because he was always out of crowd.

And he never had a huge backlog of paintings for sale. No. It seemed like as he was making them, someone would give him $50 and buy one. And he would just, you know, sit there for a couple hours. I feel like I feel like there was him and there was the old dude who always wore the sunglasses and wore the and had the gold crown. About the King of Sixth Street. King of Sixth Street and he would always just like play his guitar with his amp.

He that was around that era too. Yeah, he was a little further down. What was that bar called fat Tuesdays? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he'd sit out there and yeah, just he was great. Play his guitar and wear his shades and people give him money. Those were those were like and then Leslie, of course, who if you have any familiarity with Austin, you know who Leslie was. I feel like he has been brought up very frequently on the off the screen of the Austin subreddit again.

Very frequently on the Austin subreddit lately. Yeah, well, I mean, those were like the cast of characters downtown back then. And then Bobby. Was that his name Bobby? Billy. Billy, Billy. Billy. The less set about Billy, the better. That's a very specific person that we encountered frequently downtown.

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Especially when we had to work late on the weekends or doing South by Southwest, just like having to deal with the crowds of drunk people or the homeless people or someone who was, you know, out of their mind on something, it was always a grab back as to who you were going to run into. I felt like I had a really bad run for a while with getting harassed by homeless people when our office was downtown. I remember I was walking with you one time and I was walking up Congress. I think we were headed back to the office and homeless woman got in front of me and started walking backwards in front of me and was pointing in my face going, I know you. And I was like, pardon me? She was, you raped me once.

Oh my God. Violently. And I said, no. Just like kept walking. Yeah. Here's here. I'll put this in context. That kind of shit happens so much.

I don't remember that. Like it didn't stand out. Oh my god. Like that memory. But you were talking about our parking was we were at seventh in congress when we worked on town and our parking lot was the little field Right, which is a on the other side of six sixth and broadest six and broadest and it was there was nothing worse than working late on a Friday or Saturday night and having to walk back to Through

Down congress and then into that parking garage and then up that parking garage to get to your car after like around 11 PM. And it was like, it was that kind of thing. They were just like, homeless people pissing in the stairwells, everybody wants to fight. Everybody's just like, everybody's in a, like you have to dodge fights in the parking garage. Sometimes it's just so fucking annoying.

And I'll say because, you know, this is all when we worked downtown in 2010 maybe, in 2008. It would have been like oh 7 to 10 oh Seven to 10 or so. Yeah, I Lived in I lived downtown for two years like in 2018 2017 2018 I want to say and Part of why well, I wanted to buy home again and

I was just renting a place but part of why I decided not to get a condo downtown because I really did like downtown living. I liked being able to go downstairs and have 400 restaurants to choose from. I was perfectly situated between Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. So it's like I had two grocery stores that I could walk to within a block of me. I lived at this place called the Bowie and it was fucking awesome. But I was a part of the joy of living downtown. I was going out and experiencing the city.

And so you go, I would walk every night for like an hour and a half, two hours, I had a lot of my mind. I was working through a lot in my personal life. And I kind of needed to get out and like pace and figure shit out. And I would get like harassed by a homeless person once or twice. By the time I left, I was almost getting into fights five or six times a night. It just, it became so overwhelming,

the amount of just like angry aggressive people around constantly, it drove me the fuck away. And I wouldn't live downtown again because of it. It sucks, because it's really cool. Austin's got a really cool downtown, but it's just, it's an aggressive, angry place anymore. That's a lot of places. Yeah, I know. This is what happens when a tiny little college town becomes a big city, right? Yeah. Like you get big city problems, but.

And I feel like people in this town are always, well, there's not everyone, but there's an element of people in this town who are trying to agitate that though. And who are trying to make the problem seem way worse it is. And I'm not saying there's not a problem. Yeah. But there are people like, crimes out of control in Austin like,

well, I mean, it's actually really low for a city. Really low for a city. This size, you know, it's up, sure. But it's still even as up as it is, it's still really incredible. I would still, as a dude, I would still walk down just about any street and Austin at two in the morning. I might have to deal with, it might be annoying,

you might have to deal with drunk people or some weird homeless people, but I don't feel mega unsafe anywhere. It was more just not wanting to deal with it being hassled. Right. This is gonna seem like a tangent, but you're talking about like, encountering strange people or like really unsafe and you think about, uh, a story, a time that you and I went to Baltimore.

And, uh, motherfucker, what are you doing? Yeah, that's exactly the story. What are you doing? Exactly the story. exactly the story. Yeah, that's exactly the story. What are you doing? That's exactly the story I was thinking of. Oh my God. We were in Baltimore for Otacon and- Great convention by the way. Yeah, great convention.

If you're in the anime conventions, that's a good one. And we were done for the day, I don't remember if we were done with the entire event or what, we wanted to, so we were done for the day. We wanted to get a drink. So we were staying at a hotel pretty close to the convention center. So we go back to the entire event or what? But you know, we want it, so we're done for the day. We want it to get a drink. So we're staying at a hotel pretty close to the convention center. So we go back to the hotel, drop off our stuff

and we're like, all right, where are we gonna go get a drink? And they were like walking out of the hotel. First of all, there was like a my-box parked right? In the drive-up. There was a my-box that rolled up and all four doors opened up and like it was like a smoke machine of weed smoke.

Like just billowing, billowing out of the car. It was like a rap video. It was really funny. And so we looked to our left and there's like a bar right there. And we're like, all right, we'll just go there and get a drink. So we walk out, walk over there to the left and walk up to the door of this bar. And it's like, it's almost, it was really dim in there. I remember that.

It was, it looked like, it looked like a stereotypical bar out of the wire, like a very narrow and long, with a long bar, with a bartender behind it, and just kinda dim. And so we walk in and sit out the bar, get a couple beers, I don't remember what we were drinking. And as we're sitting there drinking our beers, remember we're really close to the convention center.

This dude walks in in a costume. Like obviously, an attendee from Otacon. Do you want to describe his costume? I'll do it. Yeah. So there was these kind of tough guy gangstery, kind of thuggish dudes hanging out at the bar. Not in their business, you know, just having their drinks and enjoying their life. And this kid walked in this young kid, he was probably,

I guess he was 21, must have been, but he was in a banana costume. I guess it was like a peanut butter jelly time kind of thing, you know, like it was just like a young kid in a banana costume. And... Exactly. And he walked in and it's like,

like almost like in a regular scratch moment. Or like everyone stops what they're doing, everyone in the bar stops cold and turns and looks at the door at this kid who walked in and it's silent. It's like absolutely silent. The kid must realize that something has changed because he stops in the doorway and someone at the bar just really allowed me. Yeah, one of those dudes, it's really loudly. Mother fucker, what are you doing?

It's a really funny moment in my mind to me. But man, that kid must have been... He was horrified. He was terrified. And he was like, I remember he was like, it's a costume and they're like, whatever. And he just came in and had drinks with his friends or whatever.

He still came in? Yeah, I think he did. Oh my God. But they were like, it was just, it was just forceful in that moment. Yeah. Like the entire bar stopped. I wish we'd had more time to explore Baltimore.

There'd been a Baltimore once or twice, but it was always. I just remember being told that it was the STD capital of the US. Oh, cool. Wow. When we went and then we walked down a street of bars that I thought were bars, but it was like all scary strip clubs with like barkers out front yelling at us and like,

and we just hung out in that hotel. Yeah. What was that like going to kid? I mean, you guys went to a lot of conventions, right? Like, like a lot of conventions. Is that 20-ish a year, yeah? Like, was that like one of the top ones? For a lot of conventions. Is that 20 issue year? Like, was that like one of the top ones? For a couple of years. Yeah.

Odecon was a convention we did very well at. A lot of people. It's a relatively large convention. And it was like our biggest representation on the East Coast, right? Like we do a lot of events in New York. Yeah. But this is pre-epax. Like if you don't count Florida.

Yeah, if you don't count Florida. We do some big events in Florida. But Florida is is pre-epax. If you don't count Florida. Yeah, if you don't count Florida. We do. We do some big events in Florida. Florida is kind of its own world. But we did like we did Jcon and Megacon and DreamCon, which is a different dreamcon now. Yeah, it's just the current dreamcon is a different one. Very different we did. And then yeah, we do OdeCon on the East Coast.

And then just like events like the Lincoln Center and stuff in New York. But most of the conventions are in California, you know? Con on the East Coast and then just like events that like the Lincoln Center and stuff in New York, but Most of the conventions are in California, you know, like Phaname, anime, reactor, that would be reactor Oh anime, I'm a Chicago. I'm thinking of anime expo But we they were also like Stuff even besides packs or other events like up in Washington state. Yeah, like a emerald city Yeah, I mean, it was funny for a long time. That was our, you know, when we were looking to really grow the audience

was like trying to find any anime convention. I forgot what the threshold was. Had like 30,000 attendees or higher, something like that. What I would do is I would Wikipedia anime conventions and I would sort, I'd get listened. I'd sort by attendance and anything over 10,000 we would look at. Oh, yeah.

Smart. And that's how we built our touring business. Well, as we would look at any convention that had over 10,000 people, and then we would try to hit it at least once, and then if it was good, like a dragon con or a, you know, what's the one up in Canada we still fan, I suppose, then we would hit it every year. The problem was a lot of those bigger events

are programmed around holidays. Like specifically, Labor Day was always the worst because it was Pax, Fan Expo, and Dragon Con all that weekend. And there were not enough of us to do all three of them. And we would split, we would do our best though. Like Matt and I would go to Dragon Con, like you and somebody would go up to Fan Expo.

Yeah, it was rough. I went to Dragon Con a like you and somebody would go up to fan Expo. Yeah, it was rough. I went to Dragon Con a few times. So the thing that always sticks out in my mind about Dragon Con is lots of stormtroopers. Stormtroopers and kilts, right? It was like all stormtroopers and kilts. That's what I remember about Dragon Con. And Hot Dogs at the Varsity.

Yeah, Hot Dogs at the Varsity. We went, oh, that's might be a good segue for something I wanted to talk about. We went to Mulligan's one time when I went there with Matt. We had the ham dog. I don't know if you remember the ham dog in the loser part. I never went to Mulligan's, but I've heard stories. Yeah, we went there with some, how can I put this?

We went there with some people who we saw at lots of conventions. Are these the people that you wanted to tell stories about? Yes. Okay. There was these couple of guys that weren't necessarily, like they weren't content creators. They sold software, but they were at lots of these conventions and we were always relatively close to them.

Like when I say, I mean like physical, like our boots were always like. Kind of like how we became friends with negative people. Right, the same general area. Yeah. So, you know, if we, you you know if we you saw these guys at an event we'd always be like, hey What do you have to do that? You know, let's go get a drink or let's go get something eat or whatever and We hung out with these guys all over the United States at all these different events and They always had the worst stories. Yeah, and the worst things that had happened to them One of them was kind of a kind of a fuck up. And we'd be like, oh, Husky event going, oh, it's much better than Amsterdam. What happened in Amsterdam? Well, I lost all our software and lost all our

money. What? It was always stories like that. Yeah. Like I left the company in a cab and we lost it. The cash box. The cash box, yeah. It was always stories like that. Remember one time we were at San Diego Comic Con, and that hotel right next to the convention center, what is that, the Marriott? Yeah.

We're staying at the Marriott, and we're down in the hotel bar having drinks and having drinks with these guys and the two of them were like, yeah, we're gonna hang out with these girls we met earlier. It's all right, cool, have fun. They took off and let's rest your teeth folks, finished having drinks there in the bar, whatever. Finish the night, went to bed. I remember waking up the next morning, coming downstairs into the lobby of the Mar bed. I remember waking up the next morning, coming downstairs into the lobby of the Marriott, because I'm going out to go to the convention center

to begin working, and one of those dudes comes up in a cab, gets out of the cab, he's still wearing the same clothes from last night. It doesn't look like he slept. His hair is like, his hair is all fucked up, and I'm like, good night, and he just gives me like a thumbs up. He's like, see you in a few minutes, walked into the hotel like, man. To get done, we'll go back to the convention floor probably.

Those dudes, if we did 20 to 25 events a year, they were doing 40 to 50. Yeah. It was like every weekend for them. Yeah, that was their business. I don't know. Which you know, you've done a ton of conventions. That's a exhausting way to live a life. Especially the way that you just described it where it's like, yeah, okay, we're going

to have drinks. Oh, we're going to go out and do this thing. Okay, I don't get back to the hotel until six. Yeah. Okay, I got to be at the convention in 90 minutes. Yeah. What am I doing? And then you're just, and that's day one.

Yeah, you know what I mean? You're just like, why did I do this to myself? Do you imagine doing that 45 weekends out of the year? It's a lot easier to do when you're like 25. Oh, 100%. I couldn't do conventions now. I would die now. No, I would go, be like, all right, the convention's done great. I'm gonna go lay down by, wait that would be it.

I feel like you and I also did conventions a little differently than everybody else. At least everybody else in RT. And this is not meant to be an insult to anybody who did a convention with it. But conventions for you and I, we considered to be a very important part of our job and our career and we took them very fucking seriously. And I felt like nobody else did. I felt like the rest of the company was like, let's go explore Seattle.

Oh, I heard there's a stake restaurant. Let's get a fancy stake dinner. And Gus and I were like, we got a fucking work. We're here to work. Let's not do that. We have shit to do in this booth. We have 2000 shirts to fold. Yeah, exactly.

And that was always the frustrating thing. And part of why I love doing conventions with you other than the fact that we were just such good friends. And I love spending time with you was just that you took it seriously. And I didn't have to fucking twist your arm to get you to do your job. And I felt like you and I were constantly battling other people in that situation. There are a lot of, it's funny because you know when I think our goal was always to try

to make the experience as seamless and fun for anyone who wanted to come to our booth and possible. We wanted to give everybody that bought something a show. Right, their own experience. And there is so much unglamorous work that goes into that. You know, whether it's like, oh, I've got to print this banner. Oh shit, the banner doesn't have grommets.

I need the, you're right. Like, I have to fight with the union. Oh god. I have, they want $700 to move this palette 15 feet, you know, it's just all these little things that wear you down that you can't let show when the door is finally opened. There was always like a union coordinator that was behind a little booth that we would go to and we clock that person first. And we would do everything in our power to be as engaging and endearing as friendly

and memorable to those people as possible. And that would make your life, when it was Sunday and shit was being torn down and you needed shrink wrap. And there was no shrink wrap to be found. Those people were your lifeline. Yeah. That's where the leftover snacks and drinks came in. 100%.

Yeah, 100%. You start, you see them around the floor and you make friends and you go, oh, we got these cupcakes, you want a cupcake? Yeah. Oh, hey, you want to draw, oh, we got this stuff. Oh, hey, let me sneak you a beer like that kind of stuff. And then Sunday comes and you go, oh, man, this stuff, this, oh, this palette. And then they walk by and they go, I didn't see a palette.

And you go, yeah, that's right. And then you're good to go. Yeah, it's, uh, you learn a lot doing that. It's a lot, a lot that I think, uh, if you haven't worked at convention, you don't think about. Yeah. It's funny because I remember we went to so many events I thought we knew everything in and out about an event.

And then we were like, yeah, we can run our own event. We run RTX and it was like, oh, shit. No, there's like a whole other level. Yeah. We were on RTX and he was like, oh shit, no, there's like a whole other level. Every one time we were in a meeting for RTX 2012, which is the first time we had at the convention center. And it was something dumb. It's like, all right, in this part of the hall, we're just gonna set up a table with some Xboxes and TVs.

And then it's like, okay, cool. Where's the table coming from? Okay, we solve that. Do you want a skirt on that table? Okay, what color's the skirt? Okay, how do these need to be connected to the internet? Okay, how are we getting power there? I don't know, drill a hole in the table.

Okay, where's the drill coming from? Where's the hole gonna go? It's like, oh my God. It's drilling. Right, every single step, every single little thing needs to be like a punch list behind it in order to get it done. Like, oh my god, this is a fucking nightmare. Just like every single, planning every single thing.

Like when you go to an event, everything had to be thought of. Like there were so many steps to even getting like a floor sign. Yeah. Like who's printing it? Who's, who's writing the graphics? Where's it gonna go? Who's gonna put printing it? Who's broadening the graphics? Where's it gonna go? Who's gonna put it there? Who's gonna take it down?

What's gonna be on it? Oh my god. Mm-hmm. It is a... Nothing just gets done. Right. It is an insane amount of work for everything. And then the door's open and everything goes to shit.

Immediately. Yeah. Then it's just pan the money. We can write about like doing convention stuff and putting on a show for every single person that comes through. Yeah. You just, that's what, that's what it is. That's what a convention is.

Because you deal with 13,000 people when you're working a booth or whatever, but that person who comes up is only dealing with you. Right. And so that's what they're looking for. And so if you can be as memorable as possible or whatever, then that's really where fan stuff comes from. I think some of the best work Gus and I ever did

comedically was in the booth, honestly. Like just the bits we would do in the improv and we always had music playing and we were always like, it was, we would like, we would like make this kid, talk to this kid and it was just like, yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun and it was probably the most exhausting work we did. It was like, you're doing that for them to perform

for them or whatever, but really, like you're just doing it for yourself. Like if you can just get everyone else in the booth, like if you get a laugh from something, then you're like, oh, great, we love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Derek would play Gangnam Style, years after it went out of style. And then it would get near the end,

and he would pause it and yell remix, and then just rewind to a random point, and just have it play again. It was like debilitating to be around if you're outside of the booth. We're like rolling on the ground crying. It's so funny to us. And it's that kind of like last day mentality.

That's the stuff that I miss most about doing conventions. You guys were honestly like part of what made it bearable for us because we could always fuck with y'all and you guys always fucked with us. Like playing pranks on Mega 64 was like gave me life back in those days. Like you guys would leave for the night and we would put, we would plaster all of your shit with red versus blue posters and tape it down. Like, yeah, we said, I still love doing that stuff.

It was fun as hell. It was super cool. Just turning everything in your booth backwards. Yeah, it's just that stuff where you go, this is for us. It's entertaining for people on the outside if they're seeing this thing. Like, oh my god, did you hear about this thing that whatever is for us. And that's the best. That's always when it's like the most fun.

We can cut this if we need to. Another fun game that we like to play was at the end of the day. You know, you would have like a cash box. We take it back to like someone's hotel room and it'd be like, hey, let's go cut this money in your room, Jeff. Okay. And we get in. The first thing I do is pick up his TV remote and start buying porn.

As much porn as I could on his TV before he found me. Stop me. He would. You have to leave that in. That's fucking hilarious. He would. He was fucking, it was brutal. I must, you've spent thousands of dollars in full-town porn on the company, darling.

He's constantly jerking it. We would sit, we would just count out the cash, and we were doing break-and-batch-it before breaking bad, laying around on the money, and fucking, you know. Oh, God. Dude, that's great. That's so funny.

I was Bill Burr and Gus was cool. Nice. We're right around the 50 minute mark, so we need to rate the coffee, we need to make guesses. Oh, yeah. So we went to Joe's, this was Joe's, Gus was nice enough to bring this because I'm in the middle

of a production. Yeah, everyone was super slow. Yeah, today's, yeah, that's how I appreciate it. So Gus picked this up, what do you think, Jeff? What do you think of the cold brew from Joe's? I'm gonna give it a eight. Okay. It's good, it's okay, it's good.

It's better than a seven. It's better than a seven. It's better than a seven. Your scale is fucking wild. It's been kept to's good. It's better than a seven. It's insane. It's better than a seven. Your scale is fucking wild. It's been tough to your last, uh, not as good as last week. Oh, no, it's not nearly as good as, it's fine. Six, seven. I ran into, I ran into Blaine earlier when I was looking for you and he was like,

how was Satan? Did you like it? And I was like, yeah, I was really, really getting sick. That's my recommendation. That was, it was. He was so excited to run. I said, well, it's not like shit. Yeah. He's really into where we go get coffee. Yeah, I didn't know that. I work out with him all the time and it's like, he gets excited because he'll wait a couple of weeks and like have a couple of episodes to listen to and then he'll listen to somebody

and be like, if he has been to this place yet, if he has done this, oh, when they talked about this and it's like, that was great. It's always so weird to me when I find out other people in the company listen to this or anything. You know? Yeah. Kinda creeps me out. I think this is fine coffee.

I think this, I've had it before for like a drive-through and I'm with just like a six or seven. It's fine. It's like, I would get it if I'm in that area and I just want to quick up a coffee. You know what? I'm gonna revise my, I'm gonna say, because I'm still thinking about it, it's not true.

It's a 7.8. Oh, okay. It's not quite an eight. It's a 7.8. Great. It's better than you're describing it, but not much. So let's get to some guesses for what the name is because we have to get it right. We have to get it this time.

Okay. This is the 20th episode, so we have to get it. I mean, it only makes sense, right? To get it on 20. Big 20. Freya says says audience meet Austin No Thought that was I thought that was a good. It's a good. That's a good guess. That's a actually a really good guess

Pat animated mechanical animals With dream logic that one doesn't make sense Animation animation I'm with Dream Logic that one doesn't make sense. I was throwing that out there. How about High Got One? Animation, Manimation. Oh, that has to be the name of the podcast. That's mind blowing, but now? Oh, okay.

One more. All right, Josh, I'm gonna guess your guess with this ain't it, but Austin, me Austin. Yeah, I didn't think so, but I had to be, you know, just try to see this. Just throw it out there. You gotta say it that way people stop guessing it. Yeah, I didn't think so, but I had to be, you know, just try to see. You throw it out there. You got to say it that way people stop guessing. Yeah. Um, well, there you go. Those are all the guesses that I can think of. Are we close? Are we in the ballpark? No, I'm excited to have the Austin Java redemption episode. That's going to

be good. We should do that. So we're pre-recording a few of these. We're typically like we go. Yeah, we like, we do this like a Monday. It comes out like the next week. That's gonna be good, we should do that. So we're pre-recording a few of these. We're typically, like we go. Yeah, we do this on like a Monday, it comes out like the next week. That's usually how this goes, but we have some offs, we have some productions and stuff. So we're pre-recording, so I'm excited in a few weeks, when we get back, we have to do that. We have to.

Austin Java has to be in. Yeah, we've done like three episodes in the last like six days or something. Yeah, some people are in the middle of production, some people aren't gonna be in the city of Austin, you know, just, you know, typical stuff. Things are falling apart. The wheels are off, it's pure.

Yeah, if things are inflamed. If only it affected one of the shows that I produced. I'm a hell of a big kid. You are, I'm not saying you can't. I'm not tripping you, he's guilt tripping me. But you're imp? Oh yeah. Are you taking another vacation?

Yes. This is my fourth attempt at a big picture this year. Are you taking another vacation? Yeah. Yes. This is my fourth attempt at a big picture this year. And it's the first one I've taken. We really should knock one out. Yeah, I would love to. I would love to. Please have a minute. I'm going.

Jesus, I'm working on it. Okay. I think that's good. I'm going to retweet something. If this is right, if not, this is making the episode, and there won't be a retweet, is this the sign for stop the crusher? I that looks like it. I think that's it. Yeah. Awesome.

All right, you can check it out. Did someone send that up? Yeah, Twitter. Sounds like PDM is tweeted this. In Anvapodcast, the house episode is all they said, and then it was a picture of Stop the Crusher. And that's the sign. I'm pretty sure that's the sign.

Yep, I just retweeted it from the Anvapod count. So wait, hey, wait a go. Sounds like PDM. Great fucking job.'s the sign. Yep, I just retweeted it from the ANMO account. So wait, hey, wait a go. Sounds like PDM. Great fucking job. Also everyone's mad because I haven't posted the Halloween thing that you're Halloween village yet. Hey, here's what, yeah, here's the deal. Okay, people can be a little nicer to you.

Yeah, I'm sick of it. I saw all the face, hey, look, you don't deserve it. Yeah, no, I don't. It's true. You're doing a great job. People, be nice to Eric. God, it's just gonna run Eric off and then there's gonna be nobody to produce our podcast.

Mostly, you don't even have to be nice to me. Just leave me alone. Just be a little, be a little civil goat. Just, just shut up. Whatever, Eric says thank you, God bless, at the end of any kind of post, take that as a don't respond. Yeah, that's his way of telling you

to leave him the fuck alone. I like when it's that and then people are like, can you believe his bad attitude and I go,'m sorry and they go hey, you know what? I'm sorry and it's like what is this what the fuck is going on? Yeah, okay? We did it another episode Next one hopefully Austin Java redemption. Yeah, episode 21 or 21. Yeah We're getting close to having to record some more. Yeah, we'll think about it. Any parting words for everyone to listen to? Um, don't throw up your balls at anyone.

Yeah, I agree. And if you hate a place and you don't remember why, let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. Like that famous song. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples?

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