ANMA - When Gus's Brain Turned On

Episode Date: August 28, 2023

Good morning Gus! We're at Irie Bean Coffee & Wine Bar on South Lamar and we got a cookie. Listen to Gus and Geoff talk about Geoff’s arachnophobia story, Freaks at the call center, A clown murder, Childhood memories, East Side King was a porn store, Break Show & Geoff’s new podcast So… Alright. You can subscribe to So... Alright here: https://link.chtbl.com/soalright Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I talked about sim city placements of the way people are going. Yep, Austin pawn shops flying with Gus was a big topic. Gus is is hanging out drinking this coffee while Jeff is eating the fuck out of this cookie. But that was all last time. So now we have this time, it's in. We're at Iber being coffeeed down on South Lamar. There's a, we're sitting in the back.

There's like an employees only door. That's got like a big fake plastic spider on it. I guess like they wanted to make sure nobody went in the door It's cracking me up. I don't know why I find that really funny. It's like I level to Make sure you know do not come in this door. This is the spider door How is that cookie you're eating that I don't like those kinds of cookies No, no, it's okay. The only reason I bought it or I got air to buy it is because it was a purple and orange monster truck Which seems suit to on the nose for x employee Jeremy Duelino

So I'm eating in a homage to his memory got rest in peace I'm so we're like on the way over here. We drove down Maybe the second was too on the point. We drove down Old Torf on the way. Talked about how people had died on Old Torf. Before we do that, can I tell you my raconophobia started? Oh, yeah, yeah, sorry. We got it in a raconophobia.

Sorry, we were talking about a raconophobia before the podcast started because of the spider on the door. So when I was at my first wife's house in upstate New York, the second time I'd ever been there. So I was getting to know her family, right? This is maybe 1996, 1995, 96, probably. What did the rocket hope come out? 97. Maybe it was, I don't know, let me see, maybe it was only a little.

I had to be, no, I had to be earlier than that, I had to be like, it wasn't new when I saw it. I bet it was like 92. I had never seen it before, and I was at her house in upstate New York and we were snowed in and it was very cold outside, and it was like 92. I had never seen it before, and I was at her house in upstate New York, and we were snowed in, and it was very cold outside, and it was nothing on. Mighty. There you go.

And so I thought, oh, I'm gonna watch a raconophobia. I never thought to watch it before, and I was drinking a cup of coffee, and I had like a cup of coffee in my hand, and I was watching a raconophobia, and I didn't expect it to be scary, right? Cause like John Goodman movie. Yeah.

Do you think it was gonna be nice? No, but I'm not scared of spiders, I'm scared of snakes. Oh, okay. And there was a jump scare moment that scared me so badly. I had a coffee in one hand and there remote control on the other. I fumbled both of them in the air

and the remote control landed in the hot coffee and it ruined the remote control. Oh, no. But it was one of those days when it was like you had dish or whatever and it was like a the remote control. Oh, no. But it was one of those days when it was like, you had dish or whatever, and it was like a specialized remote control. And the family couldn't watch TV for a couple of days after that.

It like fucked everything up and it heard that fucking hated me from that moment on, because I ruined his, I somehow dropped his control in my coffee and it just destroyed it. That's an amazing feat to pull out. I don't know how I did it. I was like, I was like, you was like I was like you know and I know you just like sticking out of the coffee

Are you sitting there watching will be holding on to the remote? I just had like a remote with you Like put the remote down like I was young. I was like 24. What did you know for me? You know what young people do? Holding remote. Oh, dude. I was a bit 22 maybe 20. 20 yeah somewhere on there. Oh, it's way better That's my right in the phobia story cost me cost me The love of a stovah father-in-law and a remote control That's also like a man. Yeah, like I sucked any like pre-internet pre-Amazon It's not like you could very easily get one. I'm sure you have to like call them Yeah, it was and it was like on a Saturday. Yeah, so it was like a Monday fix and then the family was just like

You could still like there was a complicated way you could get around it You know like pushing buttons on the TV, but it was just a fucking it just ruined everything on the way down here We were talking about a dude. We knew who like back at the call center like in the late 90s. He would Pirate and clone those H cards. That direct TV satellite systems would use to give you access. He would clone them and sell them on the internet. And he was always like, I didn't have one of those systems. I never bought one of those cloned cards from him. But he was always like, make sure to people he would sell it from.

He was always be like, make sure you take it out of the system between three and four in the morning. Because that's when they send the signal looking for it. And they'll fry it if it's in your system between three and four in the morning, because that's when they send the signal looking for it and they'll fry it. If it's in your system, between three and four in the morning, dude. Remember, you ever wonder, no, remember, but you ever wonder, think you read stories about how like somebody hit a pedestrian in a car, and you think like, well, I'm glad that first off, the pedestrian's okay. I'm glad the pedestrian's okay or they live or whatever.

But you think like, what must that do to the driver for the rest of their life? Like if I hit somebody with my car and hurt them, or God forbid killed them, but just hurt them, and they still live, they still, even if they just like had a broken arm and they'd go on with their life, I would be terrified to drive for the rest of my life, I would feel guilty for the rest of my life,

I'd feel like a monster, I'd feel like I fucked up. I was wonder like, how does it affect the people who hit other people with the cars? That dude hit somebody with a car, and he liked to tell the story. Yeah, he was, like many people of the cars, that dude hit somebody with a car and he liked to tell the story. Yeah, he was like many people at the call center, he was like he hit somebody with a car and they got hurt.

Yeah. And he he loved to pull that story out and tell it. Like I guess the answer is not everybody is affected. Yeah. In the same way. Well, some people are sociopaths. Yeah, I don't know that he was a well maybe. Yeah, and I think we had a fair share of them working

with us back then at the call center. Definitely, I would say call centers in the 90s over indexed on social paths. Have we ever talked about the dude who needed to go home? I don't know if we have. What is this? I don't know the story.

There were, there was some really like, not great people there that, you know, we knew because obviously we worked there, but we, it's not like, we were their friends or we associated with them. There was one time there was this, it was, it was mainly, man who worked at this call center. Where do you go any further? You know how some people are born already a man, like they have a mustache by 12 and they're like six, five and they're ripped and they're like, scared.

And they have a full beard by the time they're like six five and they're ripped and they're like scared. They have a full beard by the time they're 17. Okay, the guy Gus is about to describe was that dude. He, I would not be, I would not be shocked if this dude's in prison and has been in prison for a long time. Absolutely. He had a bad look about him. He had a bad look about him. He had a bad vibe about him.

Yeah. And we, at one point, we had a bunch of new employees. I think the turnover at that place, like 400% or something, right? Like it was just constant. It was constant. Yeah. And we had a new employee who was, it was mainly college students, a new employee who was a young woman who was starting with her first day.

And then that dude came up to Jeff. I think you were the one working, right? Yeah, and I was like, I need to go home. First off, this girl was very cool, but she was very atypical for the environment of that place. She was very pretty and very tall and very outgoing and just seemed very nice.

And it was like easy to like, was striking up conversations with people. And a lot of the people that call center haven't talked to other people let alone women. Yeah, in a while. And he was like, I just can't be here. Like she's too pretty. I got to go home. It was so much worse than that. He comes up to me. He's six three full beard like mountain man kind of gravely voice. He's probably 22 and he goes, he goes, hey man, I need to go home. And I go, oh, you're not feeling well or everything okay? And he goes, not really, no, nothing, things aren't good.

And I go, fuck, I'm sorry. Well, I gotta, what should I put down? He goes, listen, you need to get me away from her. And I go, what? And he goes, I can't be around her. And I go, why? And he goes, it's just not good, man. And I go, I don't know what that means.

He's like, I just don't trust myself. And I'm like, don't, what? And he goes, just let Simea home right now. It'd be better for everybody if I went home. And I was like, okay. And then I was the scheduler. So I just made sure to never schedule those two together. He didn't work there very long.

I had to write it. He didn't work there very long. He was saving up money. I don't know if you remember this. I do remember this. He was saving up money. I don't know if you remember this. I do remember this. He was saving up money, Eric, to go on a sex vacation in Thailand. That was his status.

He was purpose. This was his story. He would tell everyone. Yeah, I'm not relaying privilege information. He'd be like, hey, do you want to get a job? I'd like to work for your company. I'd like to work at your textbook company. And like, okay, cool.

You like in college or yeah, but I'm mostly just trying to save up money because I want to go on a sex vacation to Thailand. What the fuck? You like, before I knew his last name, I knew that. I would not be, like I said, I would not be shocked if this dude is in prison. Like, man, they're not creep.

Yeah, super creep, awful. I think, man creep awful. I think Man, yeah, I don't know you know how to follow up like You like what the fuck someone that's just just seemed bad all around from the moment you met them You make it long he didn't me he he weirder people out of creep people out I think I don't know if he quitter we got rid of them, but it didn't last long Yeah, it was a weird vibe. You know, every once in a while, you just meet somebody instantly and you're like,

oh, that person has the potential to be Jefford Dahmer. You can just feel it. And you're like, I shouldn't stereotype people. I shouldn't do that. I should be better about it. And then they open their mouth, you're like, this guy has eaten someone. Yeah.

This guy has murdered someone and probably has their head in the freezer. There was another guy Here's a fucking story from the textport days. There was another guy who was weird just fucking weird not I didn't think he was like aggressively weird but later I kind of did he was just off-putting and creepy and he was Gus's employee and Gus had to keep He had trouble coming to come into work on time and Gus finally called me one day and he was Gus's employee and Gus had to keep, he had trouble coming to work on time. And Gus finally called me one day and he goes,

listen, if this guy comes into work late today, I need you to fire him for me. I'm not gonna, I can't, for whatever reason, I can't come into fire him. I was in the set, Microsoft, just because we were opening that. And he goes, he was supposed to be on time today, it was his last, this is his last chance.

If he comes in late today, I need you to fire him. And I go, okay, yeah, man, whatever. Firing people was a thing that was very scary twice and then became a very common part of the job. But it's also to reemphasize, like, we were like, man, I was 22. Yeah, I was 24, maybe 20. Yeah, we're really young as well.

And so, I'm going to be 20. And so this guy comes in, henie. 24 maybe two. Yeah, we're really young as well. Yeah. And so, I'm a bit of 20, yeah. And so this guy comes in, he's like 30 minutes late. It's like his 10th offense in like, in 10 times or something. And so I call him in the office and I go, hey man, I'm just letting you know, we're gonna have to, where I'm gonna let you go,

Gus asks me to let you go and he goes, oh, well no Gus has to fire me. And I go, well you Gus asked me to fire you. What the fuck? And he goes, and he just kept staring him and he goes, yeah, well, I'd like to hear it from Gus. And I go, well, I'm, you know, I'm Gus is in San Marcos today, I'm doing it for him. And he's like, okay, well, I'm just going to come back and talk to Gus.

And I was like, it's your prerogative, you know, so I sent him home and he came back to talk to Gus. Gus, this motherfucker hired him back. And then I look like an asshole. And then for like, and then the guy worked there for like another year and a half and I shit you not, Eric, every day when I would come into manage I would sit at this little computer that just kind of looks down on the floor and that dude would stare at me like this Just like trying to burn holes to my

You you my year that guy stared at me you also missed part of the story where We would frequently see him in the parking lot talking to himself in his car. Yes. I forgot about that He talked to himself a lot really interesting how he made you fire This guy. Oh, yeah, I gave I gave you a shit about it for years. I'm still hearing about it I'm not giving I'm not giving I'm telling the story. I'm not giving him shit It was like it's fine now. I got over it But I was fucking annoyed with us for a little bit. I don't remember because I thought that guy was gonna kill me I don't remember the dude's name, but I do remember what he looked like.

I can tell you his name. Oh really? No, we don't have to. Good, we shouldn't. I remember all the, I remember the other dude's name too. I remember the other dude's name. Because it's a unique name. Yeah, I was, stay away from that guy.

Like if I ever saw that, like, if I ever went to a restaurant, I'd call my name on a waiting list and I saw that name, I was leaving. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh my God. Yeah, it was an unusual group. But we were driving over on Old Torf,

and you remember something I'd forgotten about that happened when the clown got stabbed to death. Yeah. Yeah, on that, like Old Torf in 35, there's a high school on one side of the street and there's some apartments on the other. And on the side of the apartments, one night, at like one in the morning,

a clown was walking down the street like a dude who was a professional clown and somebody just stabbed him to death. What? And this was, I don't know, eight years ago, 10, 10, 10, you know? Maybe 10, yeah. Yeah. And then you remember something that I didn't know

which was right past that where the Austin Beer Garden. Oh, yeah, that was like, it's where the train tracks crossover, well this is a really more bit episode. This is where the train tracks cross over Old Torf. I want to say, that's like right around where, I think, was Miss Deft, Texas got hit by a train there. It was, so I looked it up, because we weren't sure, talking about it on the way.

Miss Deft, Texas, Deft Beauty contest winner was walking along the railroad tracks, home from her mother's workplace, texting with friends, it was struck by a train. What year was that, it say 2006 March 2006. Yeah terrible. I don't remember that at all but I was here. Yeah it was it was it was right over there by by a right off old tour.

That's wild. Yeah and you said it was like in a movie or like it was some kind of a bearable lightness of being. Yeah it was a book in a movie. Yeah. Fuck. What is with this street It was a book and a movie. Yeah. Fuck. What is with this street? Just a lot happening over here.

So that apartment complex where the clown got stabbed, like that's, I lived there when I was like four years old. That's right. We just when it became Cynthia. Yeah, that's when my humanity turned on. I remember living there, like back in early 80s, right? It's like being like a little kid. How old do you think you were? You were born in 77? 78. So I would be like three or four living there. You were in Bambri,

Jinx. I had like a little, yeah, barely by the cusp. I had a little like blue radio control cars to play with all the time there. Is that your first memory? It's one of my first memories there. Being there and then being at um, Hancock's center. It looked, I remember big planters back then. Dude, we ever talked about our first memories on this podcast? I don't think so. My very first memory, I remember it as clear as day. I was on the side of the hill playing with this like red metal,

little like a fire truck, right? Like old-timey toy because I was, this is probably 1978, 1977, probably around that time Gus was born, because I'm a little bit older than him. And I remember having so much fun playing and having to go to the bathroom and not wanting to stop playing, and I shit my pants.

And then I remember like having to put the toy down and walk up to my grandma crying and knock on the door and ask her if I can come in because I shit my pants and have her clean me up. And she's like, come on in. And that's my very first memory of being a human being is shitting my pants. I shit my pants when I was five in kindergarten.

At school? That school. Oh, that's a bad one. Like, what, I went, I went, at that time I was living down like South of Houston and one of those small, like little suburbs. Where, where was that flat? I remember what it was called.

So there's like a bunch of little towns there uh... it's like text city lamark uh... galveston all that uh... uh... it's complicated was a text city uh... i think it was the mark that's i'm not saying because i don't remember exactly i just remember being in the story of the text city or a lot of uh... and uh... i was in i was in kindergarten at school and at our school there was a bathroom

attached to the classroom like you want to go to the bathroom you didn't have to leave the classroom there was a there was a door by the classroom door that went into a bathroom and it was like a little toilet and sink and everything so if you want to go to the bathroom you just go right there and I remember I needed to I needed to take a shit, take a little kid shit. And... He used to take a big man shit. I walk up to go to the bathroom and someone's in there. The door's locked.

Like I try the door and it's locked. And there's like... I remember there's like a little chair next to the bathroom. I guess with like a little highlights in the magazine or something, so like if you need a weight, you can sit there and wait. It's like I sit down and I'm like, oh no, I really need to go. And I get up and I start pacing around waiting. And you're like a little kid, you don't think, I need to leave the classroom to go to another bathroom.

It's like, this is the bathroom. Very single threaded, not thinking ahead. Yeah. And so I stand up, walk around, first of all, not coming out, sit down to wait again. And as I'm sitting down, I just shit my pants there. And I'm like, oh fuck. And it's like, like I said, it's like in the classroom, like by the door, right? So like, no, like I kind of like tell the teacher like, hey, I shit my pants.

So she sent me to the office so they could call my parent, my mom to come get me, right? Sends me to the office. Was your mom a teacher at this point? No, she was not. Okay. I get sent to the office and I tell the secretary You know the ship my pants can you call my mom for me and I must have stank because the secretary put a chair out in the hall And then we go sit in the hall She's like sitting in your turds. Yes, I'm just like sitting in a turd and I remember like an older kid Nobody took you to the bathroom. No, no, I remember I was sitting in the hall and like a slightly older kid

Was walking by in the hall and like a slightly older kid was walking by in the hall and like stopped in front of me and did like like out of a movie like sniffs the air and turns it looks at me and goes, did you? And I just go, yeah. And he goes, aww, and he just keeps walking. So yeah, I shut my pants when I was five. Uh, at school. Damn, dude.

Damn. That's f**k. Yeah, it sucked. So like, I- Is that the only time you should your pants are school? That's cool. Damn, dude. Damn. Damn. That's fucked. Yeah, it sucked. So, like, I- Is that the only time you should Japan's a school? Yeah, okay. And I feel like that has forever affected me to this day.

Like, I'm always nervous, like, I don't want to shit my pants. I got it. Where's the bathroom? Okay, I know where the bathroom is. I'm gonna be okay. If I need to take a shit, I can go over there. Like, and have like a backup. Like, it's scarred me.

You know, here we are 40 years later, and I still think about not shitting my pants in public. I look for the bathroom when we walked in here. I saw it, I saw where they are. Yeah, you never know. I don't wanna have a repeat here. This, this, I can't remember if I've talked about on this podcast or not, about when I moved to Austin

and I was trying to find jobs, and how I ended up working at the call center. But this building is attached. There's an East Side King on the North end of it, which is used to be like the most popular food truck business in Austin, way back in the day. It's Guy Paul Key, who ended up winning top chef Texas or top chef Portland one year.

And it came like a kind of like a national sensation briefly and then ran into some drug and abuse problems and kind of disappeared off the scene. But Eastside King, this is I think the only one left. And it used to be a porn store. And when I first moved to Austin, I applied to work at the porn store, because I thought that'd be a cool job. And they wouldn't hire me because he was like, so where are you coming from? And I was like, I applied to work at the porn store because I thought that'd be a cool job. And they wouldn't hire me because he was like,

so where are you coming from? And I was like, I just got out of the military and he goes, so you kicked out of the military? And I was like, no, I ETS out of the military. And he goes, I don't know what that means. And I go, it means exit terminal status. And he goes, terminal, that means, that sounds dangerous. And I was like, no, no, no, no, I just got out of the army.

He's like, so they threw you out. And I was like, no, you're allowed to leave the army. I fulfilled my obligation. I'm honorably discharged. And he was like, I don't know, man, it army. I fulfilled my obligation. I'm honorably discharged. And he was like, I don't know, man, that sounds like you're selling me a line. And he just wouldn't hire me. I will say, you didn't help yourself in that situation at all.

By using terms, this man wouldn't know. Yeah, man, I eat to you. Yeah, I was also 23. And I had been in the army from 18 to 23 It was all right. It's all you know you assume everyone ETS I have no idea what you're talking about You're on like you know we're in central times Do you wish that you'd work there? I thought a little bit of cool job. Yeah, we never would have met

No, I would probably meet you there. Or when I came to buy my point. I would have probably met you sooner. Hey man, you look really old. Did I show a knocker's coming? Oh my god. No, I'm glad I didn't work there because we got to meet. We're right by like where arts rib house used to be.

I think it used to be like on the other side of the parking lot over here. If I remember, I never ate there. Did you ever eat there? I ate there once. That was mediocre. And it closed right after I ate there. It was around forever.

Forever. For every on signs forever. Like, arts rib house and Hills Cafe were down here. And Matt's El Rancho. They were further down. Yeah, but they're all like on this out of Lamar. And they're like the big institutions. I, I, they're all gone, but Matt's.

Yeah, Matt's El Rancho is still there. I remember years ago, I think it was when I was still working at the place before Rooster Teeth, you know, I used to travel a lot. Yes. Am I old job? And I remember maybe back in, oh man, 2000, 2001, I was on a flight, and you know, they put the shitty magazines

in there. I was on an America's, I was flipping through American way. Because- Can they make those anymore? Yeah, I think they still do. I don't ever see them. They don't do sky-mob, but I think they still do the magazine. I don't know what they do.

But I remember, I picked up the American way that was in the seat back and it was like Madeline Stowe was on the cover and it was like Madeline Stowe's Austin. And it was like- Madeline Stowe from Austin? I guess she lived like in a dripping spring or in the hell country or something. Really? And I was like, oh, Stowe from Austin. I guess she lived like in a dripping spring or in the hell country or something. Really?

And I was like, oh, okay, like I didn't know. So I was like, I'm flipping through it. Like, what does Madeline Stowe recommend in Austin? And she had, I guess the center PC article is Matt Tell Rancher. He's talked about how much she loved Matt Tell Rancho. And I was like, I'm never going there. I was like, fuck that.

And for you, like that's been, Matt Teller's been around in Austin since the 50s. This is not it's original location. It's original location was off-susage of Chavez, but it moved like in the 70s. Yeah. And it's been like 20 years since I read that article, but only recently have I started going. I think in the last six months, I finally went.

And I was like, you know what? This place is not bad. Really? Yeah. We ate their ones together. Yes, the dude what, this place is not bad. Really? Yeah. We ate their ones together. Did we? Yes, the dude that, this is why, why it's as a how the guy who hit somebody

with his car came up, he took us there, it was his favorite restaurant, and we hated it. And I haven't been back since. That's funny, I don't remember that. That was probably, when did we work in the call center together? 99 to 2000?

This was when 2000, 2001. Oh, 2000, because that was 2001, I was working at the other place. So 99 to 2000. This was when 2000, 2001, 2000, because I was 2001. I was working at the other place. So 99 it would have been in that early because 98 to yeah. I have no memory of that. Because it was when we were at the original location still working at the first call. Yeah. Before we moved. Some good idea of texture going on. Man, I don't remember that at all. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I avoided that place for so long, and only recently I started going, it's like, oh, you know what, it's all right, it's better than Motties.

Matt Hellowmoxet. Really? Yeah. What's named after him? Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah. It's his El Rancho. Yeah.

Let's make a Gus El Rancho. I love that Gus and I are so at odds on certain restaurants. Like, top notch and Motties, I think think I just fucking I think are darling and I love that he hates them. I have a complicated relationship with top notch. I have a delicious relationship with top notch. Was Maudi's the one that we drove by today? No that was Kuros. And you don't like that. No, Kuras guard. Kuras is great too. Yeah. I ate at this Kuras, I will eat at Kuras once. Okay.

And it was at this one over here in Old Torf that we drove past. And I got tamales that had raisins in them. What? Yeah. I've never done that. And I was like, I'm never eating at this place again. I've never done that. Yeah, I've never had those tamales.

I would just get the enchiladas. The last time I ate at that one, which was not that long ago, after the pandemic, I ran into Maxi. I really? I was in getting the enchiladas. The last time I ate at that one, which was not that long ago, after the pandemic, I ran into Maxi. Who are the Luxembourgian marketing, yeah. There's another location up in Hyde Park. It's on Duval. It's on Duval here. There used to be another one on Burnett

over there in an old Taco Bell, kind of by where Frisco was. Was there? Yeah, there was for a while. Huh. It's like where that car lot is. There's like a Volkswagen Mazda dealership. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Like right just north of there. There was a curse there briefly,

but it closed. That was, God, that was 20 years ago. I mean, 15 years ago, it was a long time ago. I like to want to do all for one specific reason. And that's it replaced one of my least favorite restaurants. I don't like mothers. That was an institution. Another institution that I get and I respect that people loved it but it just never I always thought the food was mediocre. It wasn't that great. I never. I appreciated.

I appreciated that it was a vegan vegetarian restaurant. I wasn't begging on them for that. I would eat everything now in them. I just didn't like it. I lived close to it for a while and so I I ate there a few times, and I just, I ate there every now and then, but it was never like my go-to, it was never like, I'm gonna go look forward to this.

I think that is an unfortunate little area right there at 43rd and Duval, because there's a lot of awesome stuff there. There's a lot of stuff there in that spot, like especially if you live over there. There's a fresh plus grocery store, which I cannot say enough good things about. I love fresh plus. it was my local grocery store for a couple years when I lived over there there's an austi Italian restaurant which is very popular mediocre super media if popular

that is very popular that park like that there's a lot of traffic in that area around like dinner time because of that wax super mediocre over there yeah uh Kura's is okay, but mothers was terrible. Hyde Park Bar and Grill incredibly overrated. Yeah. The only thing over there that's like fucking, it's a banger, is that like Uncle Nikki's? Is there anything? I only eat their ones and I got food poisoning.

I like that place, I haven't had food poisoning there yet. And Julias. Oh, Julias. We talked about him before. We talked about him before. But it is good. I like Julias. But there's so much stuff right there that's just like I I lived over there

And I just was so bummed that I didn't like it like it's right by the flag store Flagstor's awesome, which was awesome before they changed hands like they changed ownership a couple years ago One of the dudes who works there just got arrested last week before Giving alcohol a minors. I think Yeah, the flag store lost its appeal to me when I quit drinking, you know Give me alcohol of minors. Ah, sucks. I think, yeah. The flag store lost its appeal to me when I quit drinking, you know? Well, the flag store, so the flag store changed

when it changed ownership. And it used to be. We should also say what it is. It's a convenience store. It's called the flag store, because there are flags all over it, from all over the world. So it used to be the kind of place you would go to that had whatever you needed, right?

It's like if you're working on your house and you're like, oh shit, I need a chain and I need WD40, but I don't want to go to Home Depot, like I'm just gonna go to the Flag Store and they would have it, right? Now it's a lot more traditional convenience store. It's, you know, a lot of, and they've always had a lot of beer, a lot of wine,

but they got rid of a lot of like the other stuff that I felt like the flag store was handy for. It's fine. It still has a lot of stuff. It's not the same as it used to be. Plus, the old owners were surly as hell. They were. The dude would smile at you every now and then, but the woman would not. Yeah, it was fun. It was a fun place to go. Yeah, now it's, and it's a lot more typical fly, a little more typical convenience store.

There's a place we should go maybe next week. I've been telling you guys we should go to that one on North Loop Double Trouble. They just opened up, but we've also, I feel like we've hit that area a lot, so I don't care if we eat, but there is a place that's, I feel like we just talked about half of the shit over there,

but I got a million more stories because I lived over there. And I think that's the most important thing that I've ever seen. I just opened up. But we've also, I feel like we've hit that area a lot, so I don't care if we eat. But there is a place that's, I feel like we just talked about half of the shit over there, but I got a million more stories because I lived over there. At the post office, at 43rd, and Speedway, or whatever it is right there. It has closed down, and it is now a bookstore coffee shop. Oh, is that open now? So, according to Emily, it was only open for members for a while, which sounds weird, but now it's open to the public.

Did I know who we are? Probably not. Anyway, it's open to the public now, so we should check that out. That sounds pretty cool. What is it? It was a post office right there at like 43rd, and I wanna say speedway or one second.

First light, bookstore. First light, book store, yeah, that's what it's called. First light bookstore. Gus is doing other business, don't come, don't come. Was that John Reisinger? Yeah, John Reisinger. Hey, what's up, John? How you doing, man's what's called. First light book star. Gus is doing other business. Don't get the line. Was that John Reisinger? Yeah, John Reisinger. Hey, what's up, John? How you doing, man?

Come say hi. So I've been getting into baking baguettes. And John. Let's get to see you, John. He's good to see you too. Glad to be on Anma, I guess. Our guest of Anma. John's set.

I'll take it. The next time I make baguettes to let him know that he wants one. So he reserved a baguette that I made. So I have a baguette in my bag. He's doing things reserved. Yeah, I only make three a week. I eat one. Dibs.

I want a reserve one. I gave one of my in-laws, I had one extra one, and John asked for it. It's like supreme. You know, the kids are all about like, you know, the exclusivity and limited, you know, stuff. I got a baguette drop. Hey, can I get in on next week's baguette drop? I have family visiting next week, so I got a baguette drop. Hey, can I get in on next week's baguette drop?

I have family visiting next week, so they have the baguette reserved. You can have it the week after. All right, so I got a baguette in two weeks. Yeah. All right. Jesus Christ. I'm gonna unlock the door. Text me when you get it.

I'll lock it. Thank you very much for your time. It's good to see you, John. I like that guy. I think you think I don't like him. I think you think I don't like him, but I do like him That's okay. Here's my boss right here. Eric. No, I'm not I Even my email addresses now Jeff at Eric Eric at Jeff's boss calm. Nope. It's Eric at Jeff's boss calm

It's not registered the domain and everything. Yeah, it's real you can send an email to It's for my new podcast. So all right, so we want to contact me have to go to the first person who emails Eric at Jeff's boss.com will get that pack of gum, the Detroit Tigers gum that we open in the first show last Monday. We have to find that. That'll also that will put you in a lottery to win a Gus bag. So that first membership has its privileges because first members can listen to this first So first members gonna get the opportunity figure is a card So that was good that the break show was was pretty fun. Yeah. Yeah, how'd you feel about that? I thought I went really. Thank you for having me on your thing I felt like I was like invading like you know

Not losing off to your thing Everybody said that you had really good chemistry with Emily. It's what I read Oh, that you guys seem to like really like, I don't know, perform well together. Yeah, she's lyrus. She's great. Yeah, she's great on that show. And so I wanted to make sure... I don't marry Duds.

I wanted to make sure that I wasn't ignoring her, right? I got like this. It's, I'm on you all show. So I'm not going to make sure to like engage as much as I can. We're not good at that. We've got just you, but with Emily as well. Yep. We opened a bunch of old baseball cards from like 89, 90. Any big hits? No Don Zimmers, but yeah, we did. I actually, I'm glad you asked Eric because we're going to do the

break show today. We are. And I took all of the good cards home and I graded them all and I went and found cops and I'm going to I'm going to provide a report of what that's fantastic the most viable cards are worth can we get a sport by the time this comes out the break show will be done I think the number one card was a bow Jackson that could be up around 150 bucks oh by those kid Griffies uh they were like 30 40 50 yeah oh shit um we have the break show which is live on Mondays and then it goes up on uh Rishiketh on Thursdays and then free for everyone on Fridays. But Jeff has a new podcast coming out called So All Right. I think if you listen to this Monday,

I think Jeff's podcast will come out on Tuesday. I think. Boy, that's scary. So I don't know, it's just Jeff's solo podcast. If you like this, but want less people, check out so, right? If you want to get a, if you want to get a Gus ectomy. Yeah, so what I did there, Gus, you see it's the potential maximum value and then how many PSA 10s exist because they report that.

And you can see, so like, you can tell how rare a card is as well. Interesting. That's really cool. Yeah. And we're going to figure out something to do with those. I don't know like if we're gonna like find a way to give them away an extra lie for like do something for something like the charity related thing. You could sell them all and then fund a vacation for you in Estonia. So yeah, I should probably sell them all and pay my mom back for a paper storage for 25 year 30 years. You don't want to buy a vacation to it's looks like you have enough money to go to Branson, Missouri

Yes, so all right should be out tomorrow by the time you're listening to this. Oh, that's scary. That's next week The break show. Yeah, yeah, I need a big show be the break show has been going through we're about three weeks strong By the time you're listening to this so check out the break show. I went from doing face and Ann let's do it a whole lot all Once I don't know why I did that Idiot. Yeah, I know. How's Cookie Erick? I don't like his kind of cookies,

because they're typically very dry. It's not even that. It's just not. They're very bland, nor like a sugar or shortbread cookie. I feel like it's, they're just bland experiences. It's a fucking visual tin. Mm-hmm. I'll give it that.

All right. It tastes like getting a cookie at the fair. It was also packaged on the ninth, I guess, I'm not sure if it's going to be good. I'll give it that. All right. It tastes like getting a cookie at the fair. It was also packaged on the ninth, I guess, and today is the 17th. 21st, 21st.

I don't know how long these things last for. I think it's probably fine. Yeah, I think it's probably fine too. I don't think it was better six days ago. You know what I mean? Yeah, they did a good job

with the wheels. Let's talk about the coffee in this place a little bit. I do want to get back into like more shit in this area, which is one of the reasons why I picked this spot. I figured you guys were going to be like this happening this happened. I didn't expect a clown murder to be a deaf woman hit by a train, but I rebein is a coffee shop and a wine bar. So if you live around here, you probably come down, get a cup of coffee, wait a little bit longer,

get a glass of wine, they have a little patio kind of situation in the back. Yeah. It's only 96 degrees right now at 11 a.m. Fucking brutal. What you can do is that while you're eating your coffee, you can walk over into East Side King, right there, they're open from 11 a.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Saturday.

And then something to something. You talked about what it used to be a food truck. And now it's this thing. What kind of food is it? It's like Japanese, I guess. I thought it, yeah, yeah. It's just like, you know, there was like that big trend of like Asian fusion food.

It sounds like a lot of like Thai tacos and stuff. Like Korean barbecue tacos and stuff like that. They used to make a ramen bowl with an egg and pork shoulder in it. I want to say that Millie, her, she's probably eating more of that than anything else in her childhood. Oh wow. I would always, she would love it so much. I'd always go to East Side King to get it for her on the way home from stuff. How funny. They have real good bowel buns too. Oh,. I would always, she would love it so much. I'd always go to East Side King to get it for on the way home from stuff. Yeah. How funny. They have real good bowel buns too. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I like all their art. It's cool. They have

really good chicken carage. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just inconvenient. Yeah. It wasn't their one over on Caesar Travesty and we see a trailer when we did the episode. I think there's a trailer over there. I don't know if it's open. The original locations were, it was all the bars. It was Liberty, Greco and Shangri-La is where they're under. And you would do like a, when you would go drinking on a Friday night, you'd go to Ria Rida and then you go eat at all three of those.

I always get Eastside King confused with Tycoon. I think that's what I think I might have. Oh, yeah, I think there's a Tycoon in the domain and there might be one over by Kim Fung on North Lamar. Then another little piece of interesting trivia is you see it's got a very unique art style. All the E-Sept Kings are painted like that.

That's actually done by a guy named P. Land or Yellow. Oh, P. Land or Yellow did that? Yeah, he's in the band P. Land or Green. Yeah, he's in awesome dude. I hung out with him a few times. I thought there was a reason why I thought the art was so fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah, P. Land or Liv's thought the art was so fucking cool. It's a Peelander Yellow. Yeah, Peelander lives here and he was really good friends with the owner.

Coco's Cafe is selling a t-shirt that was designed by Peelander Yellow right now. Oh really? Oh that's cool. That's a really cool dude by the way. If you ever get a chance to meet him, really cool. That's awesome. Peelander Z's cool as fuck. Great band, great band.

Nathan, do a music video for them? Yes. Yeah Nathan Zelner who used to work at Roostereed did a Peelander Z music video for them? Yes. Yeah, Nathan Zelner, who used to work at Roostery, did a P-landers-E music video. That's cool. And then he did a bunch of really successful movies. Yeah, that guy's like, he was on the pat and sent in. Yeah. Right, right, but P-landers-E.

But he did the P-landers-E. So, Iribeen is connected to Eastside King. Don't go in the employees only door. No, that won't. You'll get scared. Is this spider? It'll ruin your remote control. Yep. There's also what's on the corner?

Is it tattoo shop? Oh, yeah, there's a rock of ages tattoo here, I think. Okay. I'm gonna shit about that. I mean, either. There's like 846 tattoo shops in Austin. Oh, yeah. I lost all perspective on all of the years ago.

It's impossible to keep up with. So, there's like a lot of stuff around here and a lot of stuff in this spot. And there's across the street, there's a place called Black sheep lodge, which is okay, sports bar if you want to go decent food. Get crowded, doesn't it? It gets real crowded on the weekends, but if you want to go watch a football game or something, that's a decent spot to do it. That's what you're put lay.

It's a lingerie, sex store over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not where you side-king is. It's a different. Different store. It's just like a where you go to buy like, I don't know, dildo popsicles and we've got like gags and stuff. We got to make a pit stop before we head back to this. I've got to get these popsicles. It's just an area of town that I feel like is hanging on. Yeah, there would. There used to be, I mean, it's a great part of town.

Yeah. They were also really close to, there used to be a curbie lane right over here. It was open for many years. It became Gordos when Gordos had like, when they graduated to a brick and mortar, but that closed, I think like a year ago now. Yeah. I don't know what that building is at this point. I don't even know if that building is still there.

I don't know if it's getting demolished or what's going on with it. It's a lot of turnover. There used to be a place that was really, we talked about the heavy hitters of the old days, Hills Cafe and Arts and whatever the other one was. We saw mats. Also, Maria's Taco Express used to be over here.

That was at least when I moved to Austin in 98, 94, 95, that was like the place you got breakfast tock is. Yeah. Like breakfast tock has always been a thing here, but there was like, that was like the only place you would go. You know, you mentioned Hills Cafe made me think about this. I went up to the HB off of far west yesterday. I love that HB secret HB because you can't see it from the road. Oh, yeah, yeah, secret HB. And as I was pulling in,

I was looking at that, you know, there's that little shopping center in front of it that's blocking it from the road. There's a Birts Barbecue in there. Really? Yeah. Where? Like as you're... I go through all the turns.

You know the street, not far west, but when you turn in to kind of go in the backside of H.E. Right before you turn to the right, like right there on the right on that corner, there's a Birts Barbecue right there. No shit. Yeah. And I bring it up because Hill Birts Burgers, which is my favorite burger place, is named after Hills Cafe and Burst Barbecue.

That's so funny. That's why they called it Hillburt's. Hillburt's two favorite restaurants. How weird. Yeah. Have you ever eaten a Burst Barbecue? No, I've never eaten it. I thought they were all gone.

I did too. I didn't realize there was still one. I'm gonna go, I go to that bank sometimes. I'm gonna go to the restaurant. I was shocked. I'm gonna go up there and check it out. That's also, by the way, that's where Beatermann's Delias where I fell on the pastrami.

Yeah. Beatermann's is really good. That's also by the way, that's where Beatermann's deli is, where I fell on the pastrami. Yeah. Uh oh. Beatermann's is really good. That's right by where we did the episode with Becca. Yeah, that's right. I read that you pop up there. Yep.

Yeah. Um, a little further up this, I really like golden goose is right over here. It's a bar. It's a great bar. Well, you'll die bark. Yeah, it has a, it has a jukebox that only takes dollars.

It doesn't take coins and it doesn't take cards That's it cool. We used to eat at a place One once again somebody from the tech support company love this place And I can't remember who but do you remember because we see an old alligator grill? Oh, yeah I know who that was who was it. I mean it was the Okay, yeah, the status guy. Yeah nice Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, nice. Um, then that's gone. Oh, yeah, that's where that was the rest.

The old elegant grill was the restaurant that they dressed up to be chaach keys in office space. Yes, yes, that's right. So if you ever saw that that was actually the old elegant grill, which I think later became a, uh, I think it's a pluckers now. I think it's a plugger now, but I think for a while it was a Kirby lane or maybe. Oh, there was a Kirby over there, wasn't there? Yeah, briefly.

A couple of years. There's a Kirby if you keep going down Lamar, like on, like just going like south of here. That's what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's that. That's where they filmed off the space. Yeah, some of it. Some of it.

Yeah, Jen for Aniston was there. Dude, she's that foot in that. Wow. That's crazy. So what do you think of Airee? So this was an unusual place, because you always get the iced coffee and I get the iced Americano. The iced coffee has always come out first

and then you have to wait a couple of minutes for the iced Americano. The iced Americano came out first here, which is very, very fast. It was like instant, you ordered it and it came out instantly. Uh huh. This is not bad coffee, but it's not like mind blowing. It's not like what we had last week.

Like this is very much, I felt like this is like what I would make myself at home. Yeah. This is like very middle of the road. Audience, somebody in the audience pointed out that we fucked up last week. What was the name of the place you went to? Free wheel and coffee. Free wheel and we said that free wheel and all gimmicks they were up at the top. Yeah.

We forgot about fleet. We had apparently fleet was rated wheel and all gimmicks they were up at the top. We forgot about fleet. We had apparently fleet was rated very highly. We've got a lot of stuff. We've got a lot of fleet. Is that the one that was at the little corner and now it's not there anymore? You mean where I go? Yeah, like the little park,

because it's not there anymore, right? Little fields, yeah, but we went to the fleet over there by Lost Well. That's right. Yeah, we went to the one lost well. I forgot. They were in the one. Yeah, those are all good. There's a new one.

There's a new fleet that we should probably hit up on like seventh or something. We need also go to this new to coffee. Yeah. Yeah, I want to do that. It feels like it's going to be a crapshoot on if we go. And it's going to be like wait in line and we can't find a place to record.

Or if it's going to be no one's there. Because it is a popular place. Which is weird for a coffee shop in that area, like that part of town and it's definitely on the list of places I want to go. Yeah. Blaine's mentioned it a few times and I know he's going to be upset if we don't eventually get to go. Right, right, right.

It's a very popular place. So what do you think about your ice coffee? It's good. It's definitely a darker roast you think about your ice coffee? It's good. It's definitely a darker roast, and you could taste it immediately that it's more of a darker roast. I like that, by the way. Not burned, just really full flavor, a lot more chocolatey sort of notes to it,

instead of like, I really prefer like, if you could roast it a coffee so light that it almost tastes like grass That's what I like that's what I prefer Even in something like a cold brew or an ice coffee. I like a really really light roast where it's kind of fruity or whatever So this isn't really my cup of tea, but It's not by no means is it bad. Yeah, this is really easy to drink. Yeah, like really. It's not bitter or, I mean, not accurate. I will say double cupping. This has kept it so cold the whole time

where every other coffee place we ever fucking go to is single cup, here's a plastic thing, get out. Yeah, fuck off. Double cupping this thing is kept, I saw a ton of ice in this fucking drink and it's hot as fuck. If, yeah, I, I, this is a totally fine place to come to. If you're, if you're in the area, absolutely hit this place up.

8.6. Wow. I would go, I was sitting at 7.5. I'm, I'm right around like a 7. I'm, I'm higher on it. Yeah, I like it a lot. I like it. Dark Rose.

Yeah, you, I can tell. Yeah. You're, if you're giving it that high on this. I'm a dark rose guy. Yeah, definitely. I was skeptical when they handed out the Americano rider. I was like, oh, it's going to be like, I'm really, like, I'm pleased we went to where like, the guy just pushed the button. Yeah, I was like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, it's going to be like, oh, oh, it's when they handed out the Americano Rado. I was like, oh, it's gonna be like that. Please, we went to where the guy just pushed the button.

Yeah, I was like, oh, it's gonna be like that all over again. Yeah, that was such a bummer. This is really good. I'll be honest, I've never been to Irene, and I never thought about coming here because I thought the name was kind of dumb. But here we are, I missed, I was missing out on an awesome coffee shop. Yeah, and it's a never judge a book by its cover

It's a spot, but that's what the covers there for Yeah, it's up there is to keep dust off the jacket. Oh, yeah, that's right So yeah, good coffee. I think it's cool again in a good area where there's like a lot to do you get a cup of coffee and then go do a Million other things. Yeah, it's a happening part of town. Yep Which I really like if you're gonna live south of the river, I would say this would be the part of town you'd wanna live in probably between from like MoPAC to 35.

Yeah, I was gonna hold. North of, North of, Old Torfifix can. Yeah, I was going to point it out when we were driving here that this would be a really easy place to live. If I didn't work north of the river This would be a spot where I'm like hell yeah, let's do it Dude I would love to live south of the river if I didn't work north of the river. Yeah, because there's no fucking way

It's not worth it in the ass And it's on it makes on dumb, but it often is a north to south city It is and the river is like this line of demarcation and it's just choke points. It's a huge choke point. Yeah, it like the reason you can get everywhere else if you're north of the river or south of the river already is because there's a bunch of access roads and points to get. Yeah. Anywhere you need to go, right? Like MLK will take you all the way east to west everywhere you need to go. And you know, old torreff and stuff like that will do like the same thing. But if you're trying to go north or south, fuck off.

Yeah, you're so limited. You're just choked. You're choked and it's such a headache. But guys, one more lane. We're gonna have one more fucking lane. Austin is definitely split up in a people who live south of the river and people who live north of the river.

Gus and I were both south of the river people, I think for a long time. And now we're both north of the river people and it's different Yeah, I keep myself every day. It's a different I don't hate myself. I like it But I do miss because you don't ever come down here. No, no, like I really don't I only ever do for for this show Yeah, and I come down here. I'm like, oh, I forgot about this whole other half of Austin. Yeah, it's fucking the reason everybody moves that here by the way

absolutely Yeah, no cool to come check it out. A lot of it. Let's get into an Anima question. Anarchy, me, anything is the name of the show. Here's Huzzabee on the Reddit, name guess. Annual meetup of Assholes. Great guess.

Keep guessing. Not the name, you're almost there. Keep guessing. So close. Yep, here's Wheat Rider. I don't know how specific you guys want to get, but I kind of want to know. What have been your favorite slash least favorite companies

to travel to for work? Companies? Uh-huh. I guess we could broaden it to things. What have you liked and not liked to travel for? My favorite companies to travel for. Were my least favorite companies to travel for? And least favorite companies to travel for and that would be Ad agencies. Oh really? Yeah, I some of the trips to Portland to White and Kennedy were some of the best trips

We've ever done some of the trips to LA for other finishing houses were some of the worst trips we've ever done They really depended on the project. It's really easy sometimes it did not and who you drew from the ad agency because there's always a creative Attached that how yeah, and I'm not seeing on that white and from the ad agency because there's always a creative attached. How is that how it is? Yeah. And I'm not seeing on that white and skinny, there's a bunch of ad agencies we work for. But it was really heavily dependent on who was really A's on. And then, yeah.

Yeah, like, we would get a producer who's on the account and be like, you'd get to know them and be great. But then they get moved off to another account and they be a new producer. Like, oh, yeah, it's gonna be, we have to read each other, relearn each other. It's weird when you work with someone like an ad agency where you would think that they're hiring you

so they would trust you to do the stuff that they need you to do. And then they just fucking don't. In my experience, they would hire me to sit in a room and then tell me, and then get mad at me when I tell them that the video game doesn't do that. Yes, yeah. And I don't understand what you think the job is

if you're an ad agency. We need Reggie Bush to take his helmet off and talk to somebody in the home. I'm like, cool, then you need to animate that. I'm like, no, no, no, we'll do it in the video game. And I'm like, no, you won't. And then they'll be like, yes, we will. You're like, I can't.

Yeah, let's zoom in real close on the coach standing on the side of the game. Stand there, Dundee. Yeah, this is like, oh my god. I mean, like I can't. Yeah, we let's zoom in real close on the coach standing on the side. Yeah, I'm the. Yeah, the fucking. Oh my God. I mean, yeah, the model is there, but it's low. Probably because you're not zooming in on Eric. I almost fucking like I came close to hitting the dude once in a room in LA because we got into a fight about Stan Van Gundies idle animation on the bitch. And I'm like, what do you want me to do? He does what he does. I can shoot it from a different angle. I can shoot it low.

I can shoot it, you know, top. You're trying to make it more dramatic in the angle, but he's only ever gonna do what a sprite does. Yeah. And then be like, I don't accept that. I don't understand what you think this is. I didn't make the fucking game. I don't wanna be here.

Not here indeed. Yeah, I want to do what you want me to do, but this is impossible. It's weird. It's just not getting off on do, but this is impossible. It's weird. It's just not on saying no to you. Yeah, it's weird. Are you kind of run into that in a lot of creative fields too, where it's trust the people that you're hiring or trust the people that are trying to do this stuff, to do the thing that they that you hired them to do. If you wanted to do this, you would just simply be doing it and then saving all this money.

Yeah. What do you, what's the end between? What is the, what's the excitement for you to get Reggie Bush to take off his home bit? I know you're married to your first idea, but we gotta come up with something else. Yeah, it's a football video game. Yeah.

They wear it, they're wearing the gear. Yeah. I think some of my, I'm the same token, like some of my favorite and least favorite trips were all, like when we were like back to back events. Just like all summer long going to conventions. It's like, it'd be fun to hang out with Jeff and just shoot the shit in a booth.

And if Megan64 was there, go out, get something to eat, go out drink, and hang out all night. But then it was tiring. It was a lot of work. And it was just non-stop. I think the way Gus and I had fun, because I think we're very similar in this. We had fun by turning it into the most efficient operation possible.

Yeah. Gus and I just didn't want to fuck around. Like we had joy in getting in and getting out and doing it well and doing it quickly and not wasting our or anybody else's time. And I think that was the fun part about it is how good we got at it. It's like factorial. But it was also exhausting. It's like factorial. not wasting our or anybody else's time. And I think that that was the fun part about it is how good we got at it.

It's like what it was also exhausting. It's like factorial. I remember being really impressed with you guys because we would do a convention weekend or two that were like a month in between each other and just be like, man, this is fucking, woo, it's exhausting, whatever. And you guys would be like, we have something every week.

Yeah, we do, we just, we get done here and then we're going there and then we're going here and then we're going there and we'll see you in a month. And it was like, I don't what? 20 to 30 a year. Yeah. And I just remember like that was very, I opening for me meeting you guys and seeing the amount that you put into it like that and going like, Oh, I thought what we were doing was tough. And then we left on Sunday because we had to work on Monday. We had red versus blue to make in the process too. That was the thing.

It was just, it was a lot of work. It was just never, yeah, we were just always working. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it at the time. I couldn't do it again. No, fuck no, fuck no. It was fun. I was talking to my friend Jared who runs

Cheapass gamer. Yeah, and he we were talking about packs. It's packs is coming up. Mm-hmm. Beginning in September. Packs prime. Packs prime. It's in Seattle. Yeah. Do you know there's like another convention center? Like they're it's in like two different buildings this year. What? They're like building like another convention center or something in Seattle. I haven't been to Seattle in a year. It's the best at this point. Yeah. That's fucking crazy.

They're like, I thought that convention center was just like, great, we got it. They split it on two floors and we're good. And Paxis set, they're like, building like a- Does this new and better, bigger? I assume. Yeah.

I don't know much about it. Is Pax still thriving like that? I think- I don't feel like any convention is. No, and it's weird because we were talking a lot about video game stuff with conventions and he was saying that like it the way it split up is kind of like here's packs and everything and then here's this other thing and it's like Nintendo like the other building thing that this thing is in a lot of like

Nintendo stuff and everything which makes sense Seattle makes a lot of sense. But I'm like, man, does Sony still go to this stuff? Like this Microsoft go to this stuff? He's like sometimes, but Sony, like pulled out a gamescom. Yeah. And, but like it makes sense because if you're doing your own conference online and you're controlling your whole narrative. Why the fuck would you go to Germany? Spend all that money. You don't need to. No, in eight years when the pendulum swings back the other way and they have to go back on like their hands and knees and be like, guys, no, no, we love being here with you.

Oh, we love it. We never wanted to stop. Exactly. That's what will happen in 2030. It will just swing back and then E3 will come back again because that'll just be, everyone gets tired. Why are we doing it all individually when we can all pull in one direction together? It'll just be that. It'll just be a change into the guard. Exactly. And it'll just be that.

But I was very interesting to hear about Pax's back and split into like two different buildings. Fucking crazy. Cheapass gamer, I've always kind of admired because, you know, that's very similar idea we wanted to do years ago, the price plunger. Like, except he's actually did it and is successful at it. Whereas we just talked about it and never actually made it.

Yeah, Jared runs all, like they're social and everything. He's on the ball and I talk to him about, yeah man, and like they do all these conferences and then like, they're announcing like PSVR2 or whatever and he's like, I just get so much anxiety when they do that because I just know that's what my life is for the next three months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that fucking sucks.

Fuck. And that's why you don't run something like that because it has to be your whole fucking life. Yeah. And then don't worry, there's eight times as many social media platforms in the last six months as there were six months ago. So great, run it all baby.

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