Another Below Deck Podcast - Crew Interview: Chef Ryan McKeown

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

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Really, the morale really starts with everybody as a team. And if you're kind of out of it, man, it's really kind of hard to be 100% me. Okay. I don't want to dwell too much on this, but I do want to just drill down on a concrete answer. Should I have fed them more? Yeah, why not? Okay. That's all I have to say. say welcome aboard a c-right interview with the uh guys from another Below Deck podcast. Strange intro. But joining us this evening is...

Oh, man. What is there to say? A controversial character. We've had a lot of different names for him. Shitbag. Good boy. Craig Toomey from the Langoliers. I can't wait to find out his familiarity with Stephen King. Dylan, you called him

Pizza Rat, and I went along with it the whole season, but I don't know its origin. I just kind of... The last one was going to be Pizza Rat. If you can just... Rule of threes. God damn it, Pat. I just want to click an objection. That's Mr. Pizza Rat to all you guys.

Ryan, can I introduce you, please? His name is Pizza Rat. It is Chef Ryan. Thank you very much for joining us, man. We appreciate it. Anytime, guys. Thank you for having me. So, listen, we've said some nasty stuff about Ryan. Yeah.

I blame him for that. Okay. But, yeah, the season made me a little dark um but we want to you know break a little bread here see if we can see eye to eye on some stuff maybe by god be by gods i don't think it's gonna happen but let's see you know ryan what the hell are you doing being on our podcast you heard us say horrible things about you. Horrible things. Like, how can you be here? And some of them I do feel bad for.

Some of them. Yeah, some of them. Ryan, you listen to us talk about you, right? That must be an odd thing to have someone talk about. I mean, I've gotten clips I've heard. Believe it or not, I don't tune in to anything that has to do with the show. Good. Wow.

Okay. Not just your guy's show my show in general no no good that's good for mental health so um we kick off all of our c-rad interviews with the same question it's a terrible question and usually leads to very boring answers but with you i think it's going to be um fruitful because i think a lot of people are wondering what the fuck you're doing on the show. So Pat, take it away. Yeah. Before I say that. So Ryan, we're going to ask you some questions. We'll mix it up if we can have you for 20 minutes or something. And we got our listener questions for you. And there were a lot. Yeah. But question number one, I guess I don't want to speak for

them, but those listener questions are what we're going to hide behind to really ask you the hard-hitting ones while simultaneously hoping you don't hang up. Oh, and quick public service announcement. Nick has a fucking GoPro attached to his head right now for some reason. I don't know why. I was going to add a fifth angle, but it's going to be less cool that we don't have him on the 75-inch in front of us. So any thoughts about taking it off? I have zero thoughts about taking it off i want that to be clear all right ryan how the hell did you end up on this show on your guys no no no no below deck they reach out you reach

out they reach out to everybody you know it's a small world they got headhunters out there so there's people just like storming your inboxes and uh you know i kind of had a little interest in the show i've always had a thing for reality going back to like the real world one of my favorite shows and then uh you know it just it kind of took its place um i sat you know behind the scenes on one season of blow deck as well um because you know there's always somebody there ready to jump in oh so you were the standby cook in case someone got fired. For sure. Which season?

Yeah, which season was that? I was in St. Kitts. So I guess it would have been season eight of Below Deck. Okay, with Captain Ass Eater. Captain Lee. Okay. Is that something they ask you to not say? I mean, I'm sure they ask me to say a lot of things.

But I'm curious. I'm assuming you have to keep that under wraps, so we're just breaking some news. I mean, I'm sure they asked me to say a lot of things. But I'm curious. I'm assuming you have to keep that under wraps, so we're just breaking some news. I mean, it's kind of, I mean, it should be pretty much out there. You know, we're in remote locations and not so easy to get people in and out at times, so

there's always a backup plan, I'm sure. And well, the chef, if my calculations are correct, are the number one on the chopping block, generally. We've seen, like, Sandy fire every single chef that she ever had, except for this. Well, she's pretty bad at hiring, but let's get into. Yeah, I have a follow up for what he just said. You said it's a small world. I'm assuming you mean the world of yachting.

So what what is your exact history with yachting? I'm sure that knocks off a bunch of listener questions. Aisha asked the question. You went and asked her. You said, how many toilets did you clean or something really insulting. What is your experience on yachts? Good six plus years. Six years?

Never had any issues, believe it or not. That is the first boat I had a problem with. That is astounding, Brian. And they were all charters or private? All charters and private. I'm pretty busy. I'm well sought after. I had a client just bring me out to Omaha. I was just in Omaha, so I had a pass on you guys the other day. Yeah. Yeah. I have no shortage of work. Now, Ryan, Dylan obviously had more of an issue with you than I did. I actually was your biggest defender, the first three charters, because you used your bag of tricks

and the customers seemed pretty, they enjoyed your meals. It was the fourth charter where it started to go south. Here comes the olive branch. Here comes the olive branch. You know, there's a lot of things. Fish again really wasn't fish again. It was actually a tasting menu.

But, you know, the magical world of production, you know, just misses the rest of that meal. So it wasn't just a fish on fish meal. But yes, for the most part, the guests were happy. For all the listeners and questions, I cooked exactly what they asked for. So burgers were asked for. Barbecue was asked for. All right. Well, we'll get into all the the

specifics of it um what's the deal with stk because i believe you said that you headed up the kitchen and you know i think starting off on the wrong foot left us you know a couple exits ago but there's just no way that can be true right well no i was 100 i was around the nashville location um yeah okay actually i do have chops it's unfortunate you know sure sure sure uh okay well let's talk about your philosophy towards uh serving guests aboard these vessels um you know we watched the show many moons ago uh i forgot pretty much everything that happened but in doing a little oppo research i did stumble upon um the let's call it cured fish gate um i think it was the third third charter uh you had like pat said emptied the bag of tricks out on the TikTokers. And I believe Pat called them rock whores was the second charter.

Yeah, the rock whores. Yeah, rock whores. People without, you know, lacking in palate. But the third charter was a little bit more demanding. So when they served the cured fish, Aisha came down and said that three of them don't eat raw fish. And you told her, that's it. We're not telling the guests what we're serving anymore.

It's not going to happen. And I just want to, I find it an incredibly stupid edict. But how does that play out? Like, how is that ever in a million years going to work? Easily. When the guests ask you for a tasting menu and give you carte blanche, when you go into a top-notch restaurant for a tasting menu, you do not get to tell the chef on that tasting menu what you're having.

Right, but you're not at the French Laundry. It's not a tasting menu most of the time yeah no that's that's what was asked for though on the boat specifically for that dinner right for a tight tasting menu gave me carte blanche and now in order for me to get any of those plates out if we go ahead and tell them everything that they could potentially be having sure you're gonna fuck up the whole meal right and you're gonna happen right but you meant you meant for the rest of the season right no for like that meal specific for that what was going on we're not going to give them a heads up for the most part they've already picked what they wanted they already let us know we have we have they tell us specifically when we have that little when they get all called

down to the crew mess and we go through it captain Captain, myself, Aisha, and Jamie, we're looking at their day-to-day. Right. They have specifics on what they would like for dinner. It's laid out for us. Okay. Now, Rye. Yeah? Be honest with me.

You said, and you've said many times, I just give them what's on their preference sheet. Sure. On their preference sheet, they did not want raw fish and you and i know you know cured raw it's you know it's like calling somebody fat big boned you know um did you actually look at those people's preference sheets because if you did you would have seen that they didn't want what you had they didn't want that fish wait i got a question for you did you see that preference sheet uh i i believe nick takes care of that for us again our memory of the episodes are fleeting but i do leading i do take pretty pretty specific i i get screenshots of the preference sheets i got

a guy all right can i light lighten the mood for a little bit with some what do you mean it's light we're like i'm i'm with pat i'm gonna lighten the mood for a little bit with some Mr. Flushing? It's light. We're light. I'm with Pat. I'm going to lighten the mood. There you go. Look at him sparking up marijuana. Ryan, by the way, I appreciate you coming on. I know I said horrible things about you, but you know what? He's got the fuck Bravo attitude too, and more cast members should. Those guys are a bunch of assholes over there.

Absolutely. Lions Den he's walked into with a shield and a sword. What's up? I was wondering if you had any. Oh, I don't have any pod. I will talk. I'll give them one thing any. Oh, I don't have any pod. I will talk. I'll give them one thing. Bravo people, they have a job as well.

51 Minds, they have a job as well. I don't care who you are, what your attitude is, how nice of a person you are, how miserable a person you are. And the amount of hours and footage that we have, they can make anybody look any way they choose. I agree. So how did they manipulate it to make it look like you smashed a bottle at a bar? Uh, I actually did throw that bottle. Okay, cool. I did. I did

throw that bottle. And is that, and is that something you stand by? Because I, I agree with the edict of like, don't let you guys stand up. Don't let people disrespect women. But when the women staunchly say, we don't care, let's have a good time, leave it alone, it seemed like you were a little out of line and just didn't feel comfortable in the social setting. So then you had to make that drama, which I think ended up alienating you somewhat at that point. Would that somewhat be a turning point? And do you stand by it? Two-part question. It's a two-part question.

I stand by what I did. So do I feel alien what I did. It's, you know, so do I feel alienated? No. Do I think, you know, they were pushing my buttons. These little, these grubs, these grunts, whatever they want to call them in Australia, they were pushing my buttons. Sure, sure. Regardless of my relationship with Aisha or how I felt about her personally.

Right. Like, I was brought up differently. I'm not going to tell a girl to expose herself in public. Sure. Regardless of, yeah. But then you asked her to go a girl to expose herself in public. Sure. Regardless. But then you asked her to go back to vacuuming and keep her mouth shut. Well, yeah,

I don't know if that was before. So are you another one of those Bravo super fans that just fucking misses everything that she says? That's what it sounds like. Not at all, Ryan. Not at all. But, but not at all,

Ryan, not at all. We're asking about, we're asking about how you, how you join the two that it's like disrespectful misogynists. They whip your tits out, but then you say, oh, clean a toilet, blah, blah, blah. Maybe we do agree, maybe, that she said some stuff to you, but we're not talking about that. How do you marry those two things?

Her tools are vacuums. Her tools are vacuums. My tools are frying pans. So, you know, you kind of put it together. It's kind of the same arrogant question as an answer it was that i gave yeah i mean i think uh she has a spectrum of tools i think you know what you're doing when you say pat uh push a vacuum but hey listen let's lighten the mood yeah let's lighten the mood um let's talk about let's talk about philadelphia uh almost a unanimously hated city by everybody who doesn't live there did you not find any kinship with the

trash in australia because to me it seems like there's there's a commonality between you two guys you know the two groups of people i think we're a little different how are you different you throw batteries at baseball players it's unbelievable did we throw did we throw fucking snowballs at santa claus they threw shit at santa they booed irving fryer when he when he broke his neck yeah irving fryer broke his neck uh he got carted off and they and they booed him wow all right let's lighten the mood ryan hey ryan i'm i'm on i'm not gonna say i'm on your side but i i'm your i'm your friend here here's the island branch hey. Hey, we're all friendly here. He came on here with three assholes that he heard talk shit about him.

I think there's a certain level of bravery for that. Yes, we've given him kudos for that. Bravo. All right. So Sarah Stribling asks, ask him if he ever saw previous seasons in the standards on the show for other cooks and where he actually thinks he would rank with the other chefs on the show. Right. You mentioned you kind of watch the show for other cooks and where he actually thinks he would rank with the other chefs on the show.

Right. You mentioned you kind of watch the show. You've actually cast as a backup. Yeah. Where would you rank yourself? Like, there's Chef Rachel. All right. Well, I'll just go ahead and I'll just put myself way down at the bottom of the total

poll. But I will put myself above the nacho chip girl. Yeah. I will put myself above Adam or whatever. What. I will put myself above Adam. Or whatever. What was his name? Whoever was supposed to be in Australia. He made avocado chops. Adam's got chops.

Adam's got chops. He's a crazy person who's likely killed people and worn their skin but he's pretty good at cooking. It's that other kid that was... Adrian. Leon. Oh, Leon. How about Adrian?

Do you like my meat? Oh, speaking of adrian was he i was hearing rumors he did he have and was he a backup for down under was there any chance of him is he gonna be on adventure coming up i kept hearing leon yeah no you know i'm pretty sure that was me uh i kept blasting this leon stuff early on on social man oh like up up until my and they kept getting retweeted reposted oh my god it got picked up pretty good he fucking played your ass look at you you're playing right so that answers uh perry paula's question why did he lie to us about leon

taking his place all right honestly like i went there for the pure for pure entertainment um i wasn't looking to get become this major star from below deck. No one has. No one will be. It's a fucking show. Except for Queen of the Sea, Kate Chastain. But let me, before we... Regarding the celebrity thing, very relevant follow-up.

You are, however, going to be appearing at a booth at BravoCon. How much did they pay you? And isn't that dipping your toe into the world of celebrity? And have you gotten any extra poon from being on the show? Of course he has. What a dumb fucking question. Well, here you go. We're going to talk about the famous

Ryan likes to make things up kind of thing out there. You know, yeah, I'm not really going to BravoCon, but we're going to keep pushing it. Sure. You're not? Yeah, because how? Touche! Why would he be going to Bravovo con he could be killed there

let me ask you a question about um what you you putting yourself at securely at the bottom of the power rankings why is that do you feel i mean it sounds like you can cook better food than what you did i know that you gave up after the third charter, man. I was there for fun. Okay, so you're just admitting here and now you just fucking phoned it in. I said, fuck it, basically. That's it. You know, there was a time maybe a few more charters in, fifth, seventh maybe,

whatever it was, sixth, that, you know, after a talk with Jason, that probably didn't even make the cut. It was like one of our positive moments. I think there was a little turn up a little bit somewhere. Like I found a little bit of gas. But yeah, ultimately, it was a really hard place to work. The element of cameras being around, we've heard from other cast members

that they're kind of hidden and you forget they're there. But in the galley, because food is such an integral part of the show and the entertainment part of it, did you feel any stress, more stress than you would have in a high-intensity kitchen with all the cameras there in the galley filming you cook? No, it's funny you say that. I don't think they were there enough, believe it or not. A lot of technique was lost.

And the things I was doing and what I was preparing and how they were being prepared was kind of lost in it. What kind of, it's kind of lost in it. You know, what kind of tech is there? Like just a lot of the curing, a lot of the methods and the things that I was doing with some of the products that I had in the house, you know, it was, I think it was completely missed. And cause I, I've already painted the picture of, I was going to be the villain. That's what was going to happen.

So I think the focus for me was there early. All right. So I want to ask, well, actually, Anita Conlon-Wass. Does he think taking this bad guy approach will get him long-lasting gigs on TV or other stuff? What is his endgame for being on the show? The show has no bearing on my future. I know where I'm going. I know where I'm at in life. And I'm perfectly happy.

People's opinions don't matter to me. They really don't. But you kind of hinted at it or you actually just said it. Were you there actively trying to be a villain? I wasn't trying to be the villain, but I could already see where it was going. There was no, there was no changing it. It didn't matter. Her and I did not see eye to eye. It was not going to work. Had you had that relationship before with other chief stews? No, I I've been there, but I've never,

it's never gotten that bad. We were always able to talk it out and like hash out things. It's an interesting relationship. It's definitely one of the anchors of the, the show that, that relationship between a chief stew and a chef, because when it works, it,

the boat fires on all cylinders. And as we've seen it play out many, many times in different versions of the show, when those two don't get along, they don't get along. What about Aisha just got under your skin so much because she seems

like a pretty, affable, lovely human being that sounds like she's like a beautiful Kermit. Was it her voice, Kermit? Yeah, her voice was definitely a big part of it. And there was just, I don't know, she carried something about her that just

didn't seem authentic. Did you just do a fuck? I don't know if it was... What the fuck was that? What are you? I thought he was gagging on a cock there for a second. That was as you were just rambling on about Asia. Oh, got it.

All-American person. Got it. Got it. So it was me gagging on a cock. Okay, cool. So they illustrated that you left the kitchen in shape that would leave Gordon Ramsey incensed. Anybody incensed, really. John Taffer.

What are you doing? Robert Irvine, Gordon Ramsey. Yeah. Do you think you did leave it like shit? Is that something? Yeah, there was definitely shit around. And in the little bit of my defense, I don't know how they cut it when I did get fired.

But when Captain came in to let me go, a little bit of my defense i don't know how they cut it when i did get fired but uh when captain came in to let me go and that that has to be the fastest firing in like below deck history yeah um i was actually on my hands and knees like scrubbing it was our it was my turnaround day like we just got done a busy fucking charter like it was time to get to the to the bones and clean and yeah that so got it um All right, hold on. I got a question. So Hanif Mandani asks, why don't you feed the staff?

Yeah, that was going to be my question. And I was going to set it up a little bit better than Ajit Mandani did. And we know you and Benny are friends. And I want to get to your relationship with some of your co-stars. All right, so did you not feed the staff? Can I take over here for a second

so you served a lot of shitty food um some of it was requested some of it you just plainly admitting you were phoning it in um you know called your co-workers bitches you know you did a lot of yucky stuff she was more concise really the most unforgivable sin is not feeding the rest of the crew in why did that happen and in what world given your experience with charters is that okay it's just an insane thing yeah and i think again there's two sides to every story and uh i always say closed mouths don't get fed so when you're constantly asking hey anything else can get anybody do anything and everybody just says no um that's kind of you know right but that's like being in

college and going closed books don't get read but it's kind of a prerequisite to read the the like you're spending it's a bad analogy but you're put out food if i put out food but it's kind of a prerequisite to read the, like your, it's a bad analogy, but you're... If I put out food, if I put out food and it's not touched, and nobody makes a comment or says anything, whether it's dislikes, this, that, or whatever it is, if you don't want to speak up and say something, I'm not going to know. I don't read, I don't read minds.

But we are establishing, even though there's two sides to the story, you say they didn't ask, you're both agreeing that they were not fed. Well, yeah, because I find out from benny so and and bertini said they had to eat power bars all day more vegetables so but yeah okay so i mean really the morale really starts with everybody as a team and if you're kind of out of it man it's it's really kind of hard to be 100% me there. I don't want to dwell too much on this, but I do want to just drill down on a concrete answer. Should I have fed them more?

Yeah, why not? Okay. That's all I have to say. What's your relationship now with some of your cast members? Are you in contact with Kermit? What? What kind of fucking question is that? I want to know if he's talking to his

other cast members I like to hear how emphatically he says no yeah sorry one more day no no it's a stupid show at the end of the day Ryan didn't kill anybody I know he's kind of a jerk on there sometimes yeah but but he didn't kill anybody he's gonna go on his life and no one will remember this two years from now who so who gives a shit like watching fox news man it's not real whoa you hear that he's pandering to dylan uh i uh to me i love ryan to me to me to me to me and i talk uh we keep in touch you ever been to south africa too long ago i have not been to south africa i know he was uh with uh hanging out with gabby i think in florida oh yeah yeah our good friend gabby uh you guys are friends and did you dylan did you tell me that he's friends with uh shake from love

is blind yeah so so you're friends with shitbag shake right this you're you're kind of well you just need a third friend yeah you need a third friend uh maybe i don't know to someone to complete the triad of reality tv evil how much blow is that guy doing okay no no he doesn't do he's a good guy no shake doesn't do the blow shake doesn't do the well no he absolutely does the blow but we have more questions to get to and but before we get there because you're pulling them up let's take a quick break to talk about some wonderful sponsors like Magic Mind. Guys, Magic Mind is a once daily anti-procrastination tonic elixir beverage, whatever you want to call it. But what you need to do is drink it because when you do drink it, you will obtain superpowers the likes of which you've never seen before i knew nothing about knots before this episode but i like to sit down actually in the evenings when and watch this

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Angelo's pizza is fire. Is it? Is that a Philadelphia spot? Phyllis? Yeah. It's like supposed to be the best. They do a fire cheese steak too, with a good Cooper sharp.

Has that, has it, has it been rated by Al Perez? Those ratings are bullshit. Don't even, they're all bullshit. So, um, well, will you help us uh kind of get educated on the culinary landscape of philadelphia a little bit um cheese steak uh all right cheese steak to me best cheese steak

steve steaks uh bustleton st vincent original. I grew up with it. Okay. That's my number one. Angelo is my number two. Okay. Number three is going to be the mom and pop cheesesteak. So it's the one like every pizza shop does. Got it. Okay. What about the roast pork? Roast pork.

The Knicks is fire. John's roast pork, number two. So yeah, the Knicks one, John's roast pork two. Okay, great. Well, I hope to make it out there one day because there's a lot of great food. I mean, it seems like a completely inhospitable place, but it has some merit.

I think you guys are still salty about the Capitol moving to Washington. Ryan, are there any... We have a couple more, kind of winding down. Do you have any regrets on the show? Anything that you wish you would have done differently? This is almost a floor or two. I know you don't care what people think, but if you wanted to create a favorite.

For sure. No regrets, how to blast. I wish the relationship with Aisha started off better, for sure. I think it would have set the tone for a completely different production. And yeah, it would have been interesting to see, I think. What if she would have broke up with her fiance? Don't ask that. Don't ask that.

They're both so young, it could happen. Yeah, one day at a time, buddy. Yeah, you can get there. All right, so we'll wrap with a couple more listener questions and then we'll let you go. Holly Whittle wants to know, where are you working now? I'm still on retainer with a client full time. So you're a private chef? Right now? I'm still on retainer with a client full time. So you're a private chef?

Right now I'm still private, yep. I am home, but I have some projects and things in the works. Does below deck, a season of that, pay more than the same time frame private? Or how does that compare? Oh, privates make like $300 a day just for showing up. But we don't know what the chef on the charter makes. We know what their tips are,

but you get paid decent as a chef, right? Yeah, it fluctuates. I mean, you could definitely have to have some negotiating skills with Bravo. Gotcha. When it comes to the money. Oh, well, let's, I guess, okay. I know you said that's all you'll say, but just, you know, just to Hail Mary. How much down to the scent did you make on the season you appeared on?

I like that subtle. Oh, i definitely made more for sure should i try again or should we just move on i think i think i think pat's got one okay uh yeah carmen carmerera wants to know um if do you ever had any bad experiences with celebrities on charter uh no not really well you know what i guess they can't talk shit about like kid rock or something but but you never know unless you ask what someone said something about someone one time that i forgot but it was good uh any more questions or that's all i got as far as listener questions i guess ryan i guess you're just living your best life and uh yeah i guess who give who gives a shit right i mean that's it i i've actually talked

about characters on this show for 16 episodes and if you show me a picture of them now i have no idea who they yeah and we would just you know listen we all have internal work to do um but i would say you know just um try to meditate keep hitting that gong and uh yeah hit up benny he seems to know fucking how to get centered you know just um just love women more man just and love yourself more well i have a question i know we're rounding this out ryan how how have you taken some of the pushback on i guess social media i think you're gonna probably tell me you don't give a shit um has it affected you in any way well no, no, it does, because I laugh at it. I'm paying it to be this villain, this arrogant person,

but these people are actually taking the time out of their day to write something negative to someone they don't know, they never met, and they, off of something that they see on Bravo television. Right, yeah, no, it's really, really crazy that people do that. And we do it too, but we get paid to do it. Yeah, we get paid to be mean. We get paid to do it.

It's just a marginal amount better. I'm actually going to admit one of my slight regrets of this whole endeavor is that we might somehow encourage the hate that is spewed on some of the cast members. Yours is fine, but otherwise, they don't deserve a win. We are fucked. Right, exactly. Ryan, what do you want to plug? You got anything you want to plug? some of the cast members. Yours is fine, but the otherwise, they don't deserve a week. We are. Right, exactly. Well, Ryan,

what do you want to plug? You got anything you got, you want to plug? No, just stay tuned. Not going to be the last you guys see me. So, okay.

Well, Ryan, thank you very much for, for joining us. Enjoy the rest of your evening. Oh, I wanted to say, so we talked a couple of years ago. I haven't brought it up since,

but, and I don't think I might do it I don't know go outside a BravoCon with just a booth and if you want to join another Below Deck podcast booth it'll be me and Ryan come say hi listen it was great it was great to talk to Ryan but I don't think it's great for the brand to be associated

with him in public but anyways it took some balls to come on thanks for coming on Ryan thank you very much man we really appreciate it cheers permission to leave the vessel. Bye, Ryan. Later, guys. Bye. you