Another Below Deck Podcast - Sea Rat Interview - Hayley De Sola Pinto & Trossey

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

Pat and Dylan are joined by Hayley and Trossey to break down Below Deck as guest and cast, what Captain Sandy is really like, poop, tricks, OnlyFans and more.Patreon - Patreon.com/AnotherPodcastNetworkYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@anotherbelowdeckpodcast

Hi, hello, welcome to another Sea Rat interview. I'm Dylan, that's Pat. You know, it's hard when you say that when they're in the room, Dylan. Did you know that we adoringly refer to some of the cast members? Sea Rat, is that, have you ever listened to us? Oh my god, this is uncomfortable.

No, listen, listen, listen, listen. Sea Rat can be meant, it can be imbued with love, it can be imbued with hatred. it can be imbued with hatred. With Hayley, I mean it, lovingly, we are joined today by Hayley DiSolo Pinto. Sorry, tough start. Tough start. I think you can take it, you're British. I mean, my god. And former guest of the show, do people say the Tross man ever? A Trossy, I was referred to as John on the show even though I told them. I mean, you go by quite a lot of names, don't you?

But I'd say that Trossy is the most... Trossy and Hayley are here with us. Now, Hayley, much of our audience is very familiar with you and you were on season 10 of OG Below Deck. It was the best in my opinion. It was a good season, It was a really good season. So to remind, by the way, huge cast that season. So to remind the audience, we had Ben.

We had, I call her Kermit, Aisha. We had Tony. We had Camille. We had Alyssa. Captain Lee, he was falling apart that season. He was. Was that the season that Captain Sandy had to come in for 10 minutes?

It was, iconic. And then they banished Captain Lee out to the land of the misfit broken toys and never to be seen again. Where did he go? That was it. Captain Sandy was my captain on that ship. OK, so Trossy, great starting point.

No, no, no, before we get into it. Was Camille Millie-Alicet or was Alyssa Millie-Alicet? Camille Millie-A or was Alyssa Millie Alyssa? Camille Millie. Are you referring to her? Which one was the rap? Camille was the rapper. Oh yeah. And that her and Alyssa were going at it.

And then Haley was the good witch, like just like doing her job. They stole all my airtime. They really, really did. They really did. I'm glad that you see that. No, because we were watching that season going and when we talked to Frazier, you know, we were so confused as to why you didn't get asked back because to us it was such a no-brainer. You two together were so great and we're going gonna get into why you didn't get asked back But I feel like I'm rushing ahead and I feel like I cut you off

I feel like I don't I want to just tabula rosa. I had busted Haley's ball So this is not the first time us speaking to Haley It's our first time in person but I had said jokingly because I loved her so much on the show and her wit and just you were like the group therapist and you were like competent and you know and so I was like the only thing missing and this is perhaps some misogyny on my part was I wanted you single because I wanted you mixing it up on the night. Oh, it's not you. What I thought you were single show

I was actually with somebody. That's right. We know that and in hindsight, I wish I was actually with somebody that's right we know that and in hindsight I wish I was single too and if I'd known what I know now I would have fucked every single person on that boat real percent I would have fucked the camera man even me fucking everyone yeah everyone yeah that would have been freaking cool huh I mean it would have been brilliant television wouldn't it I would have shagged about. I would have shagged about.

That would have been great. It wouldn't have even been about anymore. All right, so do you mind talking about your personal life? How far after you were filming the show, because you were with someone, you were loyal, right? So obviously, you weren't mixing it up on crew nights out. How long did that relationship last after that?

OK, so after I filmed the show, the relationship kind of, you know, when it aired, it started to just crumble because I think he was an incredibly insecure person. Yeah. As much as, you know, before I filmed the show, he's like, this is an amazing thing, great opportunity. But then as soon as it started to air, he absolutely despised the attention that I was receiving. And even when I was filming the show,

there was a situation where I'd been in the hot tub. It was the first- I remember. How dare you. And I remember coming downstairs, coming into my cabin, and I text him and I said, oh, you know, I've just been in a hot tub. And he went, what? You've been in the fucking hot tub.

That is the one thing I said you couldn't do. Hold on, Hayley, did that make air that text exchange? No. No, none of my relationship. Is he from Newcastle? He's from a very, very, very strange place. Are you talking about Wales? Yeah, well actually that would have been better. Yeah, he's from the same place as me, but he basically went really crazy at me and it

made me feel really, like just, it was really awful having to deal with that. Did you watch every episode? I always wonder what people do when they're in a relationship and they filmed a reality show and then you watch it. Were you watching? How are they going to edit this? Were you watching it every episode with him laying in bed? Yeah, I did.

And it was funny because the episode with the hot tub came up and it was kind of like, fuck you. Because I was clearly sat on the side of the hot tub with Fraser. I wasn't all over the guys. Yeah. You didn't do the side of the hot tub with Fraser. You know, I wasn't all over the guys. Yeah. You didn't do anything wrong. No, I didn't.

I was true to myself. I was loyal and quite honestly, I don't really, I mean, I know I was joking about it would have shagged the whole boat, but I wasn't really there. You can't fuck a boat. You can't. Well, I tell you, you can do a lot. I don't think you can. Well, we can do a lot. I don't think you can. Well, we can do a lot.

Well, listen, but- We can show about that, actually. This is what, so there was a mystery about you, to us at least, who watched the show, because we watched the show so much, take notes on it, know it intimately well, and we know what works with like casting and production. So we've seen however many seasons of this. When we see you and Frasier together, we think, okay, obviously that's a green light relationship.

Sometimes if I'm having a bad day, I actually rewatch episodes of the season for a laugh. You came off great. Yeah. I love watching me and Fraser together. I think it was such a great dynamic. Both British, both incredibly dry. Yeah.

He basically just took the piss out of me constantly. And I loved it. And let us not forget, I watched, so the BAFTA Awards, our version over here of the Emmys, you guys got, the show for that season got nominated. So I got to see you guys at award ceremonies. Did I not? Yeah.

We went with Courtney Veal. Yeah. And Fraser went with Courtney and that was such a good day. Freaking red carpet lies. So the point Dylan's making here is great season. You're great on the show, great chemistry. The only problem is there is a boyfriend. Why not another season? Yeah. I kind of feel like it didn't justify me doing it. I don't really wrong. Never say never because things change. Oh yeah. People have returned after a few years.

Wow. Came back after a five year accident. Say him. Like I feel like it just seems a little bit like It's becoming more of a dating show It seems like that's the main focus, but I think it's it's good to make things funny It's good to like bring light entertainment and just be real like the clues in the network. Did you volunteer to? Did they make an offer to you to come back or did they say? We don't want you back because you didn't tell us to get a boyfriend. They they say, we don't want you back because you didn't

tell us you had a boyfriend? They've never said that they don't want me back. It's just been, I just can kind of feel maybe that's why. Okay. Because like, there's been a lot of people that have been on the show that have said that they're single and they're not. But the actual truth of the matter was I didn't lie because actually at the time of going through the casting process, I actually, we were on a break or things were short and I was kind of thinking, maybe I

will actually be single for the show. Do you know what I mean? How it turned out is actually, it just kind of came together just before. I wish if I could turn back time, if I knew what I knew now, just wish at the moment that I'd been given that show, I'd just gone, bye. Bye. Yeah, exactly. Well, listen, two questions.

Do you guys mind if I smoke pot? Not at all. OK, and two, let's get. If you get me, sir. Let's get. I'm outside the door. I want to jump over to Trossy. Yeah, let's get Trossy in here, because he's experienced.

Trossy, remind the audience of you and your co-charter guests. What was your storyline? How can we remember you? So we were the Queens episode and we, it was me and a, you know, gay guy with seven middle-aged beauty queens. And we went on the boat and I was in like a white suit. I looked like vice, Miami vice,

it means like James Bond. Oh my God. And I had platinum blonde hair and it was just, oh I'm good. Thank you though. And it was just. Maybe not too, it's because I'm thinking of a wall or something. Might be funnier. Unlicking something.

But it was just wild. And then when I was on the boat the first night at dinner, I dressed in drag and then I performed a drag show. But I think what was most notable or most, you know, that the viewers, especially ones that reached out to me after that happened was at dinner that night while I was in drag, sitting there in a dress. Because the girls were like, we're gonna do a gown competition

for the first night of dinner. And they go, Trossie, you can wear a tux. And I go, bitches, I'll wear a gown. I will beat all of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Any excuse, any excuse. Yeah, I was like, I got the slip to my, you know, to my. Me too.

You were dressed to the nines, weren't you Ben? Yes, you know it. You were. You were really gorgeous. And I did full face and everything. And then what happened is one of the girls wasn't, she got on the boat late because she missed her flight. Ah, I remember that. And so she didn't know my story with like life and like what happened to me. There's a Susan. Yeah, she was my little wifey on the boat.

Yeah. So what happened is the other girls knew, you know, my life story already. And they started talking about their kids and their families. And then Laura, the primary said, well, John has a daughter and had a daughter and a wife. And Susan's like, what, you had a wife? And I was like, what, you had a wife? And I was like, oh yeah. So then the story came out about my daughter being born and she ended up having to have open heart surgery

when she was six months old. Oh my god. She was seven months old. I found out she wasn't my biological daughter. And my wife had an affair with her boss at the time. And so what ended up happening though is we now were a big modern And so what ended up happening though is we now we're now we're a big modern family because I ended up going to visit her every single month for a year and a half straight.

Yeah. She wouldn't forget who I was. That's pretty impressive, isn't it? It's super impressive. There was a lot that they didn't show on the show because it was like a long 10 minute conversation that, you know, she was born, died two days later. We were in the CICU for like a month and a half. Oh my gosh, dude. And like, I was like her dad. I am about to have a kid and when you, like it just, it's my biggest fear what you went through. So I'm so sorry that you had to go through that.

That must've been- It's the toughest thing I think any parent could ever endure. Yeah. And the fact that like I did it and like we got through it and then like six months later I had everything ripped away from me like yeah find out She actually came home Like after just this story She had just been like I stayed home with her for like that month after open-heart surgery to like nurse her back to health

Heal her and my wife didn't have any more maternity leave. And she came home after going to visit Cora's biological father and said that they, she told her at that point that, you know, he was the, like he took a paternity test and he told her the results. So she came home and I was actually putting a fork in the dishwasher and she goes,

oh, you like put the fork in the wrong way. I just want a divorce. And I was like, hey, what? I was like, what? Speed track, like fast tracking. Wait a minute, like, let me change this and like, let's like not get a divorce. Yeah, it's a speed pass.

And then she just blurted out, she's not your biological daughter. And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, of course she is. And I was just like, what? And then in the same breath, she told me that she was in love with him and that she, and that our little girl now had a brother and sister because he had a wife and two kids. Oh, what a joy. And so they were moving to, um, to where they lived and they were going to go live with them and move out of where we live. Well, if anybody listening can dox them, dox them. No, I'm kidding. What's your relationship with your daughter now?

It's amazing. She's now eight years old. You're Papa John now, aren't you? Yeah, so it's because like, you know, she has dad and dad is her dad and I'm now Papa John because I deliver the goods and the flavor of the channel. Papa John's way better. Yeah. I said that on the show and it was like part of actually like the senior executive producer

of the show that night came to me and she was like you know thank you so much for sharing this none of us had any clue about this and like I think this will help a lot of people especially given the situation you were in and how everything was that night. I love that he's the stuffed crust of the family.

I like to stuff the crust stuffed crust of the family. Yeah, right. I like to stuff the crust now, that's for sure. Fuck yeah. I'm sorry, we don't have to harp on this. What's your relationship with your daughter's mother now? We're great friends. She's an amazing mom.

They actually are still together, and they had a second daughter. So we're just one big. I'm not a fan of her. Yeah, no she's, she, you know, she had a lot, think about like she had a child who had a heart defect and was sick and then we were living in a very expensive city.

She was, you know, she was alone. But the thing is. I have, I have sympathy for the situation. People aren't perfect. Yeah. People aren't perfect. No, no, no. I've been through a lot since then. But then try, if it didn't happen. The. People aren't perfect. Definitely not. No, no, no.

I've been through a lot since then. But then if it didn't happen. You were so healed from it. I think at the time you probably were like. At the time I thought my whole world ended. And like I didn't, you know, I lost everything. And I was very depressed. But that point I started traveling,

because she didn't really like to travel. And I started traveling the world after that. And then what that led to is me finding myself and then coming out a year later And so if none of that happened, then I wouldn't be who I am today. Well, you know, it's one of Pat's favorite adages Everything happens for a reason Yeah, no, I'm kidding though he hates it okay Tracy, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. Thanks for sharing Wow, I'm an open book. Okay. So if you are an open book let's ask you because we look at these vacations and we see I mean Hayley doesn't even know what a duvet cover is. So it can't. Haley give him some shit back. No no no. She's got to warm up. I have all this

ammunition she doesn't even know me it's not it's not fair. Okay so we watch these vacations right and they're a little colored because we see all the infighting and the blood feuding and the chaos below deck but is it an actually like good vacation? Oh my god it was the best vacation ever. I had the most amazing time. And yeah, well, the second I got on the ship, I literally went straight to her and we, and she was at the bar and I go, all right, girl,

to give me the dish. Yeah. I was like, definitely. Oh, a hundred percent. Trossy, I don't think you'll get in trouble for this. All right, so it sounded like you were one of these chartered guests, like our groupings, where it sounded like you didn't know a couple people

that were also co-charters with you. Okay, how does this come together? How much money do you actually pay? How do you figure out what you're gonna give for a tip? So the tip I didn't even know about that. That was a thing. You weren't watching the show. Well, I didn't. Well, I thought that the price that they told us there was the price like that we

paid for tip included. Yeah. Tip included. Yeah. I just think that everywhere in America, I'm just like, Oh, is this for everything? No, no, we won't. No, it's 20% more expensive. I was told a certain price. Like I think it was like, Oh, is this for everything? No, no, we want more. No, it's 20% more expensive. I was told a certain price. Like I think it was like 40 or 45 total for like the three days. For all of you. Yeah. For all of us.

For all of you. All of you. So we all split that. How many guests? Eight ways. Yeah. That's what I said. It's always five or six grand.

Yeah. Yeah. OK. I think it was like six something. And then we just, you know, that's what I paid. And I was like, OK, cool. I didn't know if there was supposed to be any more added. Right.

And OK, so how does this go, Dad? How do you find out that you actually have to chip in? Well, they're getting off the boat. Oh, no. I tell you, right before you get off the boat, they're like, everyone scrubs on more money. So we're all like, you know, going to our like, we're in a different Who tells you that?

Does the primary tell you the producers? They actually hand them an envelope and they say, fill this. We're going to embarrass you on national television. That is so crazy. They did. I didn't even watch the show before. It's like, you know how it works. It's like, you know, just in the yachting industry in general,

that's what you do. Right. At the end of the charter, you are expected to tip a percentage of the charter fee. Yeah. And I thought they were taking some of our money out to do that. Right. No, it makes sense.

Did, hey, Hailey? I guess you did. How'd they tip? Not available. Hailey, so we saw your season. How many years were you in the industry prior to that? How many years prior to being on the show? Were you in the industry?

That's such a good question, because, um, hey, I think she's going to say zero. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like my I had quite limited experience. I have to say, like my early 20s, I mean, don't get me wrong, like my... I had quite limited experience. I have to say, like, my early 20s, I went out to the Caribbean and I think I went on, like, one boat for, like, three weeks. Then I went and joined a boat in Europe, which was horrific. And I was on this Italian...

How big was it? It was like a... It was it was literally this Italian flight. How big was it? It was like a, it was literally a floating prison and it was about, it was probably, I don't know, 45 meters. So like a little bit smaller than St. David's. What was so bad about it? Oh, the Chief Stu. She was Satan in a wig.

She was horrific. What was she? She used the shit out of us. What? And not in shit out of us. What? And not in a nice way either. She would literally, she made us sleep in a laundry room, right, and fold out beds, and my face was about half a meter from a tumble dryer.

What? The mid of the med, the aircon didn't work, right? I had about four hours sleep every night, and she'd just be like like she wouldn't teach us anything She was just she was shagging the captain. Oh my ah So she had Yeah Those captain's yeah most captains on these yeah, it's don't look like captain Jason

Don't know what happened there, but yeah. So she already had a little bit of power just from that and she knew that. She was just a very angry. That's what I was telling you about a Darren Wee and you get a little coverage if you're banging the fat Italian guy. Oh, he was a fat Italian guy.

Very angry, very weird as well. Yeah, he smelt like cheese guy. Very, very angry. Yeah, sure. And he'd smell weird as well. Yeah, he'd smell like cheese. So you had worked on boats prior to this. What a crazy jump though, the Caribbean. I do that. I think I'm a bit passively stained. He's been smoking a lot. Sorry, yeah, I've been smoking a lot.

I don't know why you were so mellow. You're off your face. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, a little stoned. It's great stuff though. No, it's great stuff. Is it? Yeah, it's fantastic.

Okay, question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a bit. Yeah. Yeah, a little stoned. It's great stuff, though. No, it's great stuff. Is it? Yeah, it's fantastic. OK. Question.

Do you like Lee? I really like Lee. Wrong. No, he's a lovely guy. She loves Captain Lee. The thing is, I find it very hard to dislike people. Oh, OK. OK.

Let's do Lee first. I find it hard to dislike people that like me. Oh, me too. Someone is loved, so you can watch someone on TV and you can go, I don't like them. But if you were around them and they were lovely to you, and they were really kind to you, there's no way you're going to dislike them. Of course. Everyone's going to have an opinion on someone.

Right. And how many times have you thought, I don't like that person? And then, and then you've met them and you've gone fucking. It happens every, no, it happens every time we interview somebody. We can never talk to Lee because the things that he, that face that, and listen, I've, I've kind of folded into the bit, but Patrick hates, he reminds me of a football coach that used to like abuse me so like I despise that much he's no like you aren't making any sense why you're yelling at me right now kind of behavior so that's why I just like But I

Yeah, he reminds him of Jerry Sandus No, Lee's great. I was one of his favorites. He always used to just look at me and laugh Yeah, I think he was stoned too. No, he's a drinker. He's a big big drinker too. No, he's a drinker. He's a big, big drinker. Oh, okay. Right before he went back on the ship, like the day before he went back. What happened? I think he fell in the shower. No, no, no, no. No, he had real leg problems. Yeah. He was in a lot of pain, bless him. He was really not in a good way. Okay. I was a bit like, what is going on here? Yeah. All Yeah. So I have some questions from her season and what she's doing.

I want to get to them. I absolutely want to get to them. OK, bye. I don't know if you heard that. What did Tracey say? You might have missed what Tracey said. Well, I said, do you like Lee? And she said Lee is great.

And then Tracey said, no, Sandy. No, we've heard Sandy. Sandy's mean Sandy Yawn, I was just trying to be so nice to everybody Yeah, we were excited to like have her be part of things that we did Mm-hmm. She did not I mean you can go back and watch the episode and she Was walking down stairs and like heard one of the the girls on the charter with me. Turn around.

I was like, whoop, went the other way. Yeah. So it was kind of like that was kind of the vibe we got from her the whole time. Yeah. And it goes to what Hailey was saying. She thinks she's a big star. It goes to what Hailey was saying. The number one reason for me and most humans to not like somebody is,

you don't fucking like me. You give me no choice but to not like you back. I don't like you either. It's nice to everyone. Again, with Captain Sandy, I think she's, you know, when you watch her, she does look like a little bit scary. I remember before coming on the show, I was thinking, Oh my God, like, I'd be a bit scared because she's quite like, she's very light serious. She's very, very professional. Yeah, quite hard. But then when you actually meet her, she's lovely. Yeah And I really get on with her. I think she's a really lovely woman. Genuinely lovely person. Great. So yeah. I've come around to captain Sandy. If you go through the crew, we'll get there.

We have lots, our listeners are, we call them barnacles. They, we said you're coming on, you're going to be in the studio. They had lots of questions. A of questions. Okay. Oh, yeah I got banned from the Facebook group because of hate speech, but I love that but he's still in there No, I'm not in there and I didn't hate speak I. It was a glitch in the system, and I don't have a Facebook. I have pictures of me and my wife. It's like, what the fuck happened? They just kicked me off.

It's so weird. You know what? Someone took over my Facebook, so I don't have a picture. What the fuck? I'll tell you what. You're living a better life now. Facebook is amazing. 100%.

Terrible. They're all fighting in their politics. You don't want to be there. All right, Meg Bartos. Are they fighting about politics in our Facebook group? Not in our face. I'm saying in my feed, everyone I went to high school with, they're like sending beams to each other.

All right. Well, don't fight about politics in our group. OK. Meg Bartos wants to know, Haley, elephant in the room, obviously being attractive matters to being cast on Beady. How much does it matter in the actual industry in general? So when you work on these boats, does everyone need to be hot? I mean that's a really good question. In the industry, I mean it's a great job Meg. I mean it's a very high-end, very glamorous industry. Yeah. In

real life. A lot of men too, chartering the rich guys. No one wants someone absolutely hideous serving them, that's basic. I mean that's an awful thing for me to say. No, no, no, it's fine. That's what Sizzler is for. Some of the most likely people are usually the nicest people. Oh yeah. People, looks should not matter. It's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong. You should not judge people by the way they look. However, the yachting industry is just, it's very fake. Look at the kind of people that are on these boats. You know what I mean? Like they, they like to look at good looking people. I don't fall for-

He was on the boat. Yeah. That, yeah. I just got asked a month before. No, he's part of this disgusting system. We're going to talk after. I want to hang with you. Absolutely. Let's do it. I love that. But like me, the way I look, I'm quite, I have a bit of an unusual look.

I've got big red hair and I'm covered in tattoos. I'm not what you would normally see in a super yacht. You can stop you getting jobs on boats. With the tattoos. Yeah. She has looked, she has gawked at and stopped everywhere we go. I don't know if that's true. I mean...

She's like Ariel, but from London. On crack? On crack, that is my favorite. Like, that alone should have got you a season two. Ariel on crack? Did somebody say that? Oh my god, she did. What do you mean did someone say that?

Okay, hang on a second. Remember the cake throwing scene? She got drunk one did someone say that. Okay, hang on a second. Remember the cake throwing scene? She got drunk one night. Okay, all right, hang on. Okay, a lot of weird and a lot of seasons. So it kind of just falls out of my head. It was so funny. Sorry. It was in the intro, I believe. There was a scene, I don't remember saying it, I'd say shit like that all the time. I don't reason I think I was eating a crisp I do I think I do remember this yeah and she was like oh my god yeah yeah you know that's just wobbled off that's ringing a bell because those are those moments where the fans kind of fall in love with people You know if you have those moments and you're just a fucking dynamic human being. Yeah

And that's what I think that I showed on that show is that I am authentic and I we need myself And I can't not we're gonna start a petition is that I am authentic and I match myself. And I can't not be. We're going to start a petition. Hashtag get Hailey back on the show. You need to be back with Frazier. All right. Absolutely.

I couldn't agree with you more. I think if I came back on the show and it wasn't with him, I think it would be, I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I'd still be myself. But I think our dynamic, we really do have this. I got an idea. I got a pitch for Bravo. do have. I got an idea. I got a pitch for Bravo.

OK. All right. They listen to Alexa. Start of season, Frazier has Stu's. The second Stu or the third Stu, he's not getting along with her. She's got a bad attitude. She's sabotaging.

Guess who arrives on a tender. You look down the dock and a big ginger wigs walking down. Who the hell is that? We're off our feet. We're on our feet. I look down the dock and a big ginger wigs walking down. Yes. Who the hell is that? We're off our feet. I have a better. We're on our feet. I have a better idea. Haley gets on Winterhouse.

No. Bravo. Nobody wants Winterhouse. No. Are you familiar with the show? Oh, I've seen Winterhouse. I think Fraser and me should be. I think your hair would look good in this.

Well, you would fucking lose it. You would not be cool with that. Yeah, but do you know what? I have to be honest. Like, it is something. There is something with me. Because I have a lot of dry... I'm very dry. I'm very vulgar. And I'm quite witty. You're British. Yeah. I do say some things that some people don't really know what the hell I'm going on about. Now, you guys, as Americans, you've all got quite dry sense of humor, and you're kind

of on my level. That's quite rare. And I know that a lot of people, I could be on a show with them, and I could say something completely weird. Oh my God. Oh my God, what the fuck is wrong with her? I'd be like, oh, now I feel like an extra freak. Can you imagine?

I mean, I need someone to appreciate it as well. Otherwise I won't be that way. I won't be my authentic self. Well, you gotta, you gotta clam up a little bit to survive. And they just need to get a personality chance. All right. We got a lot of barnacle questions. Yeah, they're gonna be mad at us if we don't have these.

All right, so Nikki Hodgson's, she asks, Frazer's most annoying habit, quirk or trait and then she puts in parentheses I don't know if you all love him, but he must have one I think she's trying to get you to talk shit about Frazier. Um, I think I mean The one he's he's got he's got OCD Well, I'll say he could really admit that and that's what makes him such things Red Bull Chiefs do he is I've got to say Phenomenal at his job and I I I'm being very very like, you know, I got beef to pick

Well, I like very very also thin-skinned He was gonna be like a godfather to my next child Oh, yeah talked a little shit about him on his next season. This guy, okay, I got a beef to pick with him. I can't wait until we talk to him again. He tells me he wants me to write his autobiography or some shit like that. And then we start talking shit on him and he doesn't speak to us. I mean, Frasier, what the fuck?

That's good, but we love it. We love it. No, I get it. You guys, you're watching the show. Nobody's safe. The fans would hate us if we didn't. I know that you love Fraser. He likes you guys.

And the thing is, that's what you're doing. You're commenting on how that season is. That season in particular that I know you're talking about, I've got a little bit of a different opinion and that isn't just me taking sides because I'm- Go ahead. Are you talking about Barbie, that drama or- Yeah. Okay?

Oh yeah. First of all, I should have been on that season. I should have- You would have thrown her overboard. Someone should have gone home and I should have just, you know, walked down that dock. We talked about that. I really thought that might happen. So give your perspective.

Well, I think that, so from our season, Fraser learned some lessons of, you know, he is a lovely guy. And he'll become friends with his shoes. You know, he hadn't been doing chief shoes for hadn't been chief shoes for long before he started. It's a lot of pressure. And then on television as well. And he was just, he's just. There's so much to do.

And you have to manage runaways. You know, it's like. I would be so shit as a chief student. Me too. I'd be like, oh, it's fine, don't worry. Oh, you didn't do that, no problem. The whole thing would go to shit. And I'd be like, oh, it's all on me.

Yeah, I get confused. Like, I had to come down on a 24-year-old the other day. I was just like, how? Why are you? I'm so confused as to why you did what you did. It's like hard to manage. Manage 100. Yeah, of course.

It's just like trying. You're actually a therapist. You're not even a Chief Stu. Yeah. Haley, I have to ask you. So just to harken back to 20 minutes ago, you mentioned a Chief Stu that was a complete monster to you. Let me guess, was that person older?

100%. Okay. In a name shame. Do it. I'm going to do it. Okay. So what- Way to go, Pat.

But my point is older and then younger, they're not trying to to well, there is a dynamic where people are always trying to sleep with one another. But when you have an older person that's married, possibly in a leadership role, it's less like the role that we see on these shows where the dynamic of a 32 year old bosen or chief stew is also has an underling or an employee, that is two years younger than them. So it's like that dynamic is also mixed. So her issue. Her issue.

Her issue, 100% it was her age. So a lot of women, this is what it used to be like. I mean, this is like 15 years ago. A lot of women like would stay in the industry as chiefs shoes and they'd kind of women would stay in the industry as chiefs Jews and they'd kind of get to like their mid to late 30s and they kind of miss out on meeting that person that they might potentially spend their lives with

and they haven't had children. And with that, they become quite bitter. And then they've got these young pretty girls underneath them that I guess it's a jealousy thing. It's kind of like, I wanna be where you're at. I'm still on this boat I haven't met the one I've kind of gone past that do you know what I mean? I thought no took it out. I used to say this a lot Like I said, I think being out at the sea as a yachtie is for young people

Yeah, you have to move beyond it. Like there's positions where you can move on to, but it just seems like it's a young person's industry. We talk about it all the time. It's like being a pop star. It is. Yeah, there's Madonna and Cher and whatever. But like, there you go. But for the most part, who wants to get on a fucking tour bus

and do 250 shows a year? We always talk about like when you're 19 and your friends are like, Hey, we got these tickets to Vegas. There's just, it's three connecting flights, but we'll be there. You're like, let's fucking do it. And now I'm like, are you? No, I barely have the motivation to make my own bag. Yeah. Alone somebody else's like right. Right. So, well,? So well, so what what and I know like, you know Not speaking for Frazier, but from your perspective

What was the challenge between him and Barbie? Oh Thank you. I listen to say when we bring up a topic and then we yeah. Yeah, well this happens because Yeah, we're we're on fucking vibes right now Like I wasn't there I only saw Yeah, we're on fucking vibes right now. I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I wasn't there. I only saw what you guys saw, but I also know a lot as well. And I think I'm just going to be really honest. Sometimes the way things are edited,

you can miss out a lot of what one person has said, and you can show a lot of what someone else has said, and you can put that all together and it looks like someone's being a bully, but actually what you don't see is that other person had a lot of talk back as well. They had a lot of things that they were doing and saying, but it wasn't shown. What is shown is, oh, you know, like, do you know what I mean? Well, I'm saying, you know, Fray's might, you know, he might be over the crummy edits at a certain point. Well, Fray's, Andy loves Fray's.

I think Fray's is gonna be on the show for a while. Well, they gotta give him some better edits if he's gonna be on the show for a long time. I have well good edits. We talked about that last night with Hurts. She was like, if I went back for a second season like maybe they would have edited me to be a raging bitch Yeah, yeah, actually show what you give them though Haley, and I don't think you're a bitch I feel like yeah, I feel like if you're authentic and you're true to yourself. They can't they're not wizards have me like what they use AI

Yeah Yeah, yeah, I'm a trustee. All right, Barnacle Jessica Lynn asks, I love this question. On the show, it seems like on crew nights out, someone pays and then it's traded off. It's like that on, is it like that on every boat? And what is the highest check you've ever had to pay for

if in fact that is something that is- Great cue, thank you. That's good. Oh, what is the highest check on like not being on the well first, like how does that go out on the crew nights? Someone always pays the check. Yeah. Is that an actual thing? Yeah, that happens.

All right. That is a thing that I mean, it just depends what, what's the highest bill you ever had to pay. To be honest, it's probably higher. Me just having dinner with with a couple of friends. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Are we talking your entire tip money for the charter?

Like 1,800 bucks? I certainly wouldn't pay that. Would you? I just, yeah. Fuck no. I don't know. I feel like that might be something. Everybody's been money now.

Yeah. I think that might be something for the show as well. Don't get me wrong, it's normal to just be like, oh, I'll get this, I'll get that. But quite often on the yachts, like sometimes the boat pays for it. Okay. The captain will pay. And I think if the bill is really, really high,

they'll usually cover it. I mean, in answer to that question, I mean, I've been out for crew dinners that have come to thousands. All right, we're gonna kind of wrap this up. All right, so our admin of our Facebook group, his name is Chief Stu. Chief Stuart. Chief Stuart, a cute guy from Canada.

He wants to know, are you still in touch with anybody from your season? We had Tony, Ben, Ross, Camille, Alyssa and Kermit. Who do you talk to? I call her Kermit. Aisha. Aisha. Aisha. Oh, OK. I'm so excited. No, he said Kermit.

Oh, Kermit. He was a good laugh. He was good. I speak to Ben occasionally. Yeah, I spoke to him recently. Is he still angry? He's just got into acting. OK. He's changed it all around. I think I spoke to him recently. Is he still angry? He's just got into acting. Okay. He's changed it all around. He wanted to do, he was really still into this yachting vibe,

but then he just, it faded out. And then he stopped. And now he's decided to do acting. So I do. Do you like Ben? Oh, I love, he was my partner on the show during our, Oh, your, the gauntlet. Yeah. And I actually, we actually hung out, um, three months after I got off the boat and he was in Orlando where I was living at the time. Then we went out one night and partied. Look, he was a misogynist jerk, which is, I, that's how I was when I was 32, but I get to watch you be a misogynist jerk and a womanizer. And now we,

I like to watch you be a misogynist jerk and a womanizer and now we. I like to flirt with them. I think that's what this is about. I think that's how kids do. Hey, can we, Universal Studios or Orlando, do they still have the double dragon? Oh yeah, Dillon Dragons, yeah. You know my first job was actually in Jaws. No shit.

Doing the tour? I was a games keeper next to Jaws. No, you're joking. In Orlando, Disney. Yeah, yeah. I was like, throw a ball in a can, winner prize, so I step on up, this is milk can. No way. You were literally next to Jaws.

Yes, yeah. At the games department. Oh my God. I loved Disney World when I was a kid. But you guys gotta go to Orlando and go on Dueling Dragons. Is that right? I mean, what a ride. It's a great ride. All right, only because we have a few more minutes. All right, Haley, you are in a different business now. Oh

My gosh. Yeah, and I could do I could do honestly an hour on this. All right, so yeah Yeah, oh, yeah. Okay All right. So yeah, it's only fascinating. Yeah. Oh, okay. Cool. So a girl's got to eat firstly. Fuck. Yeah. You know, I mean, taxes are maybe by a mansion. Well, like, yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm a slub, but I'm also a boozy bit. Fuck. Yeah. And I've got a big appetite. So on the show, are you part of the industry? The the yachting industry at all right now? So okay, so one thing I will say is I'm still in and out of the yachting industry. The yachting industry is definitely something that you can just slide in and out. Make a little money.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The attempt's due. So I'm still, I still absolutely would if something came up that was a temp position that paid well, I would absolutely do it. I actually did some yachting last year, I did a little bit of temp work in Europe, but I really was struggling to decide whether or not to do OnlyFans, because it was like, oh, will this ruin my chances of being on TV again? No.

Yeah, this is my concern. And actually, actually, you know, a lot of people think of OnlyFans as being very pornographic, but it can be. But it can also be quite PG. It can be exactly what you want it to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beauty of it. Right. And it's a chance for people, fans of the show,

whatever, to actually have a personal relationship with me. They can talk to me. They can, you know, I speak to my fans about, it's not just what you can imagine. It's, you know, they ask me about the show. You know, they want to get to know me. Yeah. People want to make a connection. Sure.

With that, I share, I share a lot of content and I mean, I'm not being funny, but I'm not, that kind of thing doesn't freak me out. You know, like, like nudity and stuff for free. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Oh yeah. Like, I'm pretty confident. Listen, we were thinking about starting an only fans. We put it to a poll and everyone said no, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they said no, don't do that.

We actually, at some point on our Patreon, said if you pay us $60,000, we'll have sex. Yeah, well, we have a tier on our Patreon. I'll subscribe. Yeah, well, it's the flight of the Phoenix tier. I think we've bumped the price down now to 35, because nobody's biting. But if you do pay us $35, we will have sex with each other

on camera. Oh, generally, just don't do it with haggis. Someone will say yes. Hailey, where can they find you on OnlyFans? So link in bio. I've got a link in my Instagram. I think as well, I promote on different pages like Twitter, Reddit, stuff like that

But if you go into my Instagram, you can just click underneath my in my little bio Okay, then it would take you straight to go fucking hang out and also trust you you even know Oh, I mean it was I do but I just got to you found I used to have a lot of followers and I just stopped She's good at talking to her people. I just didn't do that. And so I have the other night we were at dinner and we were talking about this and I was like, I have two fans and she took like a video. Yeah.

Funny, I was just like, but if they're big spenders though, that doesn't mean anything. Oh yeah, you need a couple of white whales and you're done. Yeah. All right, so I think we'll wrap this up with some quick juicy questions. Quick juicy questions.

Haley, any celebs in your DMs ever? OK. Actually, who is that? OK, so one actually that was really cool, Cypress Hill. Oh, wow. I think that's pretty cool. Which guy? She doesn't know. She does not know think that's pretty cool. Which, which guy? She doesn't know.

Sendog. She does not know. The main guy. There's three members. So it's Cypress Hill, they're actual, so then that you've got all the band members that are separate, but whoever like actually is their Cypress Hill, they were talking to me and saying like, thank you so much for the appreciation. So it's like sharing their songs because I love their music.

Yeah. And then he was like, what, what, like, yeah. And then I sent him that. And then he was my biggest spenders. Oh, wow. Who knows? I don't know. This is, this is fucking philanthropy. Okay. This is like, this is it's entrepreneurship and philanthropy. Okay. It makes a world go round. I've always been a hustler. Like since I was 13 years old, well, I was 13, I was washing dishes. I was like 16, I was braiding hair on the side of the road, like bringing in loads of money.

Then I was a waitress and then I've done care work for the elderly. And then I went and did three years of working on chalet seasons as a chalet girl. Do the elderly smell? Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding me? Yes, they do. But you know what? Who doesn't?

We all stick. Well, hey, look, dude, you're going to be old one day, and you're going to smell. Not me, not if I drink. You're going to go to Haley because she's the best esthetician. And she can keep you young. Oh, that's what I do as well. I stick needles in people and make them look younger.

Oh, yeah, you showed that. Yeah. He's a botox whore. I mean, he'll fucking come over. I was thinking you've got an exceptionally smooth, small forehead. See, I got that going for me. All right, last question.

We'll wrap it up with this. Craziest charter story ever. If you can keep it under two minutes. What? Have you ever seen? Is this a story that's not below deck? Because below deck. No, no, no.

It doesn't need to be associated with the show. Like what is oh, my God. OK, so I have one. And I have to I'm going to wrap it up with two. OK, yeah. So the the most disgusting one was we had some guests and I was really hung over and I went down to clean the cabins and someone had taken a shit in the sink in the sink. And I came up and I thought down to clean the cabins and someone had taken a shit in the sink. In the sink?

And I came up and I thought, okay, I'm actually feeling like I wanna, I don't just wanna jump in this, I wanna end my life at this point. And I was so disturbed, and it takes a lot to gross me out. You know, I'm quite feisty. It also takes a lot to take a shit in a sink.

I mean, it's out there, isn't it? It's quite scary. I think I'd rather see like a mafia hit with a shit in a sink. I mean, it's out there, isn't it? It's quite a sink. I think I'd rather see like a mafia hit with a head in the sink than shit. Yeah. No, it wasn't an accident. That's where I'm about to go to. So there is a certain type of guest that will do things like this. It's like an authority thing.

It's like, I will shit in the sink and you will clean it up. And that's why they do it's almost like male or female. Male there's no way that came out of a woman. Well, I don't know. I'm you know, I could know you can tell you can tell. What did you do about it? I absolutely did not clean it up. I was disgusted. It was like my one of my first jobs and the chief sure was like let's I'll deal with this now But in future you have to luckily the charter ended the next day, so it was fine, but I I couldn't deal with What it kicked them off super hum over like I kicked them off that They do it as a way of being like

Your here, and I'm here. Yeah, you're my slave You're my glorified slave. You will clean my shit out of this thing. Literally. And then the other one, the other story was actually really funny. Um, I was very, very young. I was in like 21, 22. I just started working in St. Martin, the Caribbean. And if anyone has ever been there, um, I know that it's known as Devil's Island for a reason because everyone likes to have a good time there and they stay up all night and they get a little bit wasted. And I did just that. And I was working on this boat.

It was only like a five day charter and it was docked. It was in the dockyard. And basically I stayed up all night. I was feeling pretty. Puky. Yeah. Pretty, you know. Yeah.

Human at this point. Yeah. And it was me and one of the deckies and we walked to the end of the dock and I was like, shit, the guests are eating breakfast on the front, on the front of the dock, like front of the boat. You're just eating it. And I was like, nah, I can't can't do this I can't do this.

So you're tripping you're high out of your mind. Absolutely wasted and we fought do you know my idea on the spot I was like listen. Jump in swim around. I said take it take your coat off we stashed a few of our items in the hedge I went we're going to jog we're going to look like we've gone for an early morning jog. Oh my. We were already sweating. That's actually genius. Such a good idea. Put our shades on because we had bags we had all of our bits in there put our shades on stashed a few things. You had your heels on. And then no heels I was a bit of a maverick. And then we ran I was light jogged, I'm thinking I was probably gonna have a heart attack

at any point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Jog, light jog, and they went, oh, hi, hi, Hailey. And I just looked athletic, you know, I looked athletic. That's why you were sweating profusely. I was sweating, probably absolutely reeking of all substances, you know, all this tequila just, you know, going into the atmosphere.

And that? And then I got on and she was like, oh, it's so, it's so lovely to see you so active and so busy. And I thought, at this point, I don't need to do any more in life. I've done it. I've won it. That is why we need her on this show. Everyone.

The last question, will you go back on if they ask? The answer is clearly. Okay. Are you listening producer? Um, get in the comments, let us know what you thought about the episode. Uh, Tracy and Haley socials will be in the description. Go click on them, double click on them or with your thumb or whatever you use and click follow and enjoy. Uh, Tracy Haley, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much guys. Great having you guys. We really enjoyed this. Thank you.