anything goes with emma chamberlain - birkens and bass pro shop hats, trendy or timeless

Episode Date: July 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Trendy or Timeless, a series here on Anything Goes, where I discuss popular fashion trends and determine whether I think they're trendy or timeless. Trendy meaning, yeah, we like these things right now, they're cool to us right now, but in a few months, we're all going to be throwing these pieces into the donate bin. Or timeless, these pieces are going to be cool forever. These are staples in one's wardrobe. These are great purchases to make, trendy or timeless. And I like to do these as often as I can because we're constantly being bombarded with new
Starting point is 00:00:35 ways to innovate our sense of style, new micro trends, et cetera, et cetera. And it can be overwhelming at times. What trends do I want to participate in? What trends do I want to reject? And a lot of times we can find ourselves consuming these hyper trendy pieces because they're so enticing and they're so interesting. But unfortunately, a lot of times with hyper trendy pieces,
Starting point is 00:01:01 I don't even know if that's a word, hyper trendy. You know what, it's not, I don't think, but I'm going to create this word, hyper trendy, meaning super, super specific, super stylized, super trendy, super of the moment, hyper, hyper trendy. Do we like this word? I don't know. I'm going to continue to use it even though I know it's not a word, similar to how I use funner. Like, yeah, that party was funner than the other party. Is it a word? No, but I'm going to use it anyway. I also do that with anyways. Like, anyways. Anyways is grammatically incorrect. Technically, you're supposed to say anyway. But I say anyways anyway because it's fun.
Starting point is 00:01:46 What was I saying? Oh yeah. It can be tempting to buy into these hyper trendy trends because they're enticing, they're interesting, and a lot of times they're widely available. But the problem is is that we end up becoming sick of these trends quickly and just end up getting to a place where our closets are filled with these hyper trendy items
Starting point is 00:02:08 that go stale to us quickly. It becomes over saturated and yeah, we just grow bored of these things. Whereas timeless pieces you never get sick of and you can really get proper use out of those types of pieces. And I know I'm trying to only purchase timeless pieces, the more aware of this issue that I get because I used to be somebody that would participate in
Starting point is 00:02:32 these micro trends and then end up walking into my closet every day like I have nothing to wear. And it's like, no, you have lots to wear. It's just you only have hyper trendy pieces that are now stale in your closet. So that's why I like to do these episodes because I like to critically think about the trends that are happening. And maybe I can help you critically think about these trends as well. So you can decide in a logical way which ones to participate in. With that being said, let's hop right into it. Let's just jump right into it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Let's just dive right in. And let's start right into it. Let's just jump right into it. Let's just dive right in. And let's start with Jorts. This episode is brought to you by Kraft Dinner. Adulting is tricky, okay? It comes with freedom and parties and good things like that, but there's still some responsibility. Bill Payne and all that stuff too. So when you need to break free from responsibility and experience the deep satisfaction of being you, reach for Kraft Dinner macaroni and cheese.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Being starved for moments that bring you back to who you really are and what you really love is no good. That's when it's gotta be Kraft Dinner. When you gotta do you, it's gotta be KD. Shop now. Now, shorts by definition are just jean shorts. And I think in general, jean shorts are pretty much always timeless. Like, I don't know, just in general, jean shorts are timeless.
Starting point is 00:03:53 However, I do think that there are some styles of jean shorts that are timeless and some that are not. And I will try to paint that picture for you right now. Timeless jean shorts to me are number one, mid-thigh length shorts, okay? The length is not too long to a point where it's super stylized. Like I feel like a long short down to the knee can sometimes be a bit trendy.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Whereas mid-thigh shorts to me are timeless. They're a basic length, they're not extreme in any way, and they're overall very functional. Short shorts to me I think lean a bit more trendy. There are phases when like a Daisy Duke is super in and then there are phases when that's not as cool. I also think where the seam sits on the waist can also determine whether it's trendy or timeless. Like low waisted, I think is trendy. It's so not functional.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's kind of extreme. It's a very specific style and aesthetic. That to me is more trendy. Mid waist, that's timeless. It's standard. It's effective. Like your butt crack's not slipping out's timeless. It's standard, it's effective, like your butt crack's not slipping out and shit. It's versatile.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I would say that a mid-waist is timeless. A high-waist, it depends on how high. A slightly high-waisted jean short, jort, if you will, that to me is timeless. It's when it is really high-waist that it becomes trendy to me. I guess when it comes to the jort, whenever there's an extreme, it's trendy to me. Like super ripped up denim shorts, trendy.
Starting point is 00:05:35 You know, like a really extreme sort of acid wash jort, trendy. Anything sort of extreme. When I think of the ideal timeless short, I think of a Levi or a Wrangler, comfortable mid to high waist sort of waistline, maybe a bit more snug around the butt area and a bit looser around the thigh. You know, I tend to think that a cutoff is the most timeless with a slightly frayed edge, you know, nothing too crazy. I think it can also be cool slightly frayed edge, you know, nothing too crazy. I think it can also be cool if it's like, you know, a clean hem on the bottom. That can also be timeless too. But usually in, you know, a classic denim wash, I think white
Starting point is 00:06:15 denim or black denim can actually be timeless too, but nothing extreme, you know, not like an acid wash, not a lot of crazy rips, just something classic. I think that's how you do the jorts. It's actually quite trendy these days to wear jorts that are really long, like past the knee even. And I actually really enjoy this trend. Like I think it's kind of cool. And when I first saw it come back into style, I was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I actually enjoy the trend. Do I think that it's going to pass? Yes, I do., I don't know. I actually enjoy the trend. Do I think that it's gonna pass? Yes, I do. But I think it's cool. So that was a really messy way of saying that I do think jorts can be timeless. It's such a broad umbrella term for a trillion types of shorts.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But I think that they can be timeless. So that's something that's good to know. I think they can also be trendy. I go back and forth though about, I don't know, like certain styles like the really long denim shorts or Daisy Dukes, like, I don't know. I remember there was a time when super short jean shorts were so out, but part of me wants to say that there's a way
Starting point is 00:07:21 that you could probably style them maybe with like a basic white tank top and like some little boots or like a little flip flop. I don't know. Maybe there's a way to make them timeless, but I err on the side of trendy for those. And same goes for the long shorts. Like I just, I remember a time so vividly when that was not cool at all. And so it makes it hard for me to say that they're timeless, but at the same time, I can imagine ways that you could style them in a timeless way.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So I sort of go back and forth on it all. But yeah, that's my jort analysis. Okay, next we have 70s PE wear. Okay, let me describe this to you. It's like super cute 70s athletic wear, like little athletic shorts, usually kind of cottony, pretty short, usually maybe have stripes up the side in colors like navy blue and white and red and, you know, these classic colors and little striped shirts,
Starting point is 00:08:18 little tank tops with contrast seams on them and stuff, like just like really cute retro workout wear. I would argue that 70s workout wear, PE wear, et cetera, I think for the most part, it's timeless. Number one, I feel like there are no extreme patterns or silhouettes, Like it's pretty standard clothing if you really break it down. Like it's just workout shorts
Starting point is 00:08:49 and like cute little athletic tops with max, like some stripes or maybe it's a t-shirt that's red with like white trim around the neck and around the armholes. Like nothing that extreme. And even though it is very specific to the 70s and the PE wear workout wear, I cannot remember a time in my life personally
Starting point is 00:09:12 when that has not been in style. And I can't foresee a time when it won't be in style. It's like anchored into fashion as to me, the coolest workout wear. It always has been in my life and I feel like it always will be. And it's interesting, because I think we see it come in in big ways, and even in new ways. Like, for example, there was a huge trend last summer
Starting point is 00:09:39 that's sort of continuing into this summer of people wearing sort of like a 70s athletic short, you know, with the little stripes up and down the side in those classic colors and paired with more of a modern, more fashionable shoe, like a boot or a little ballet flat. To me, that's trendy because there's sort of a juxtaposition between the athletic short in the more fashionable shoe, I feel like that's not timeless as much because it doesn't really make as much sense. It's more of the moment.
Starting point is 00:10:13 But the shorts themselves, the pieces themselves that make up 70s athletic wear, to me, are timeless. And I actually just purchased a pair of 70s athletic shorts, just by coincidence, just because I saw them and they were my size. And I was like, this is the perfect color. They're like a perfect blue color. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to pick these up. Not really thinking about the trendiness of them,
Starting point is 00:10:38 just thought that they were cool. And I think that they're going to be a staple for me this summer. And I think I'm going to style them in more classic ways, you know, with like a cute little athletic sneaker, with a little white tank top. That's kind of how I plan to style them. I mean, maybe pair them with, maybe I'll try the little ballet flat thing. I don't know, maybe that's over. I think it kind of is, but anyway, timeless. Okay, next, Birkins. If you don't know what a Birkin is, I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They're so widely discussed these days. The Birkin is a very expensive purse, possibly the most expensive purse that exists. I'm not sure if that's true, but it's up there. If it's not the most expensive, it's one of the most expensive. It's by the brand Hermes, and these bags sell from anywhere from 10 grand to, I think, $250,000. These bags are so incredibly expensive, and they're very much a status symbol, especially nowadays. With the influx of quiet luxury or whatever in the media,
Starting point is 00:11:47 the Birkin has been discussed more now than ever, I would say, probably. And it's sort of known as a status symbol because that is one expensive bag, you know? Like, whether you have the cheapest Birkin or you have the most expensive Birkin, they're all so much money that it's a status symbol. And in that way, I think the Birkin is trendy. I think it being this sort of status symbol trend is kind of losing its allure because we're seeing them so often in the media that they're losing their rarity. It's like every celebrity walking around has a Birkin.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It's just kind of like losing its allure. So I think in that way, it's trendy. As a status symbol, it's trendy because when it comes down to it, it's not, it's just a bag, you know what I mean? And as we see more and more people holding Birkins, it just, the shock of somebody holding a Birkin has lost its value.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It's lost its shock value because we see them out so much on celebrities and stuff. But I think the truth about the Birkin is that it is a simple, effective bag. Like, I don't know if you adore the style of the Birkin, like I think the style of the Birkin is timeless. It's incredibly simple and versatile and can go with any outfit.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And I think in that way, it is a timeless bag, but I think as a status symbol, it can't be in the zeitgeist in that way forever. I feel like we as a society will find something new to put on a pedestal like that at some point. And until every celebrity is seen with whatever that new status symbol is, that will be the new thing. I think when we see too much of something
Starting point is 00:13:28 and its whole sole purpose is being a status symbol, it eventually will die out. And I think that that will happen with the Birkin. And, you know, it's interesting. I've seen people wear Birkins before in a way that I thought was really chic. You know, like a simple minimalist sort of outfit with like a little Birkin.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like, yeah, it can actually be kind of cute and cool, but it would be cute and cool with another simple bag that looks super similar, which there are many on the market. Like, I just don't think it's a unique enough bag to last in this way. But I do think that the design is timeless. There are some beautiful Birkins that I really appreciate the design of.
Starting point is 00:14:11 For example, I saw somebody with a red one with gold hardware and it's a beautiful bag. I enjoy bags to an extent because I carry a bag every day. As a result, over time, I've grown to appreciate bags. When I was younger, I could not understand the lore with bags. I was like, who gives a fuck about bags? What about the clothes? The clothes are what's interesting. But I do understand having a bag that you enjoy that matches everything or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:40 I get it now. And I can appreciate a Birkin well styled, but is it worth the money? I can't say so unless you're obsessed with the design. But it's not going to be a status symbol forever. I don't think it's already feeling oversaturated and almost in some ways to me, like a bit chuggy maybe. I mean, God, am I going to get in trouble for saying that? But I feel like the Birkin to me has gotten a bit chuggy maybe. I mean, God, am I going to get in trouble for saying that? But I feel like the Birkin to me has gotten a bit chuggy, unless it's like super understated and casual, because that's sort of like, you know, an interesting way of styling it, like wearing a Birkin really casually wearing this super expensive bag, super casual. Like that's kind
Starting point is 00:15:19 of interesting to me. I think that's kind of cool. But I don't know in general, I think for the most part, they're kind of chuggy and I'd rather see somebody like carrying around some sort of unique vintage designer bag that was made one of one and it's the same price. Like I'd way rather see something like that. I'd way rather buy something like that. I just think, I don't know. I don't know about the Birkin, but we'll see. I think timeless design, trendy
Starting point is 00:15:45 societal impact. That's my final statement on the Birkin. Next, Juicy Couture. Okay. I appreciate Juicy Couture. In fact, I have been a fan of Juicy Couture on and off throughout my life. Middle school and high school, Juicy Couture was my dream. I remember they had Juicy Couture every once in a while in TJ Maxx. My mom and I used to go to TJ Maxx all the time, which if you don't know what TJ Maxx is, it's like a surplus store where brands send all the stuff that they don't want to sell in their store anymore. They want to put new stuff in, so then they give it all to TJ Maxx. And so TJ Maxx has a bunch of like, you know, nicer stuff, but for good prices, sale prices. Anyway, my mom and I used to be obsessed with TJ Maxx and we'd go all the time and just hang out.
Starting point is 00:16:35 And every once in a while I'd find like a Juicy Couture jacket for like 30 bucks and it was unbelievable. And I was always like, oh my God, I just won. Like this is like winning the lottery. And for one of my birthdays, I like begged my parents for a Juicy Couture charm bracelet and finally I got it at some point. Yeah, I've loved Juicy Couture over the years. And I do think to an extent it's timeless,
Starting point is 00:17:02 like especially their classic pieces, like the simple velour tracksuits with no design on the back, like just simply the velour tracksuits, especially ones that are in more neutral colors. I think that that's timeless. I even think they're like classic pink and brown logo design is somewhat timeless. However, Juicy Couture tends to lean on the maximalism
Starting point is 00:17:29 side. And I don't know, I've come to the conclusion in recent years that a lot of maximalist brands tend to be more trendy. And that's not to say that like, there aren't ways to do maximalism that are timeless, because I think there are ways to do it. Like there are ways to be bright and loud and you know, all of this in a way that is not too of the moment. But I'd say maximalist brands tend to be more trendy, like the sort of gaudy style that is Juicy Couture, I think overall is trendy and it comes in and out every few years. The thing that makes me want to say that it's timeless though is that I feel like it does come in and out every few years. Like already in my life, I've only been alive for 23 years and already Juicy Couture has come in and out three times. Okay. When I was really young, like young, young, and my mom was into fashion more, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:28 she's still a fashionable queen, but like she was wearing Juicy Couture, I think when I was a very young kid, and then, you know, it kind of disappeared for a bit. And then when I was like in middle school, high school, it came back into style. And then more recently with like this sort of Y2K trend coming back into style, it's coming back again.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So like that almost makes me feel like it's timeless in a weird way because it keeps coming back over and over and over again. But I feel like in 50 years, we're gonna look back at the juicy couture aesthetic and we're gonna see that as an early 2000s thing. Like in 50 years, 2020 will still sort of feel like the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Do you see what I'm saying? Like in 2070, I don't even wanna think about that being a real year. That's gonna give me an existential crisis. But like, we're gonna look at the Juicy tracks and be like, really? Like that's of that time, you know? And it might stay in that time.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It sort of like reminds me of, you know, like the eighties super neon, like tracksuits and like big hair and like teasing the hair and stuff. And like sort of the super neon eighties aesthetic, like that has never really resurfaced. It's so extreme. People do that for Halloween, but not a lot of people are wearing that now,
Starting point is 00:19:52 and I feel like the Juicy tracksuit might be the same thing. I don't know, we'll see. So I go back and forth with the Juicy couture, and I don't know. This episode is brought to you by Craft Dinner. Adulting is tricky, okay? It comes with freedom and parties and good things like that, but there's still some responsibility.
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Starting point is 00:20:30 Shop now. Okay, next we have flowy white linen pieces, okay? Summary light white linen, okay? This can come in many shapes and sizes. This can come in skirts, shorts, pants, like little blouses and tops. I would say overall, white linen is timeless. It's so classic summer to me
Starting point is 00:20:56 and there's so many different ways to style it. And it's so versatile that to me, I think you can never go wrong with white linen. And it's not everybody's style. Like I like can never go wrong with white linen. And it's not everybody's style. Like, I like to mix and match with white linen. Like, I would love to do a little white linen skirt with, like, a little vintage t-shirt and, like, a flip-flop and go to the beach.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It's a little edgier. It's edged up a bit instead of the full sort of elegant white linen look, which tends to be more of a dainty, I don't know, more feminine sort of aesthetic. I don't know, like I'm not personally super into that as much. I do think it's timeless, but I prefer to style it with other things.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Like I like to use white linen to lighten up an outfit that's maybe a bit more, I don't know, maybe a bit more masculine or something. Like, instead of wearing like a t-shirt, Birkenstocks, like the Birkenstock clog or something, and a short, maybe I'm going to replace the short with like a linen skirt or like a linen pant. And it just like adds some elegance to it in a way. I think it's timeless. I love it.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I do love it. It's not like something that I'm leaning into 100% all at once. Like I'm mixing and matching and adding linen in in little ways. But overall, I would say white linen is timeless. Next, dresses with pants underneath. I've been seeing this quite a bit over the last year or two. I've also seen this a lot with like skirts over pants, but today specifically wanna talk about dresses over pants.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Specifically, I've seen quite a bit of dresses over jeans. And I'm not gonna lie, like I'm really on the fence about this because I think that there's actually a way that it could be done. That's you know, sort of simple That could actually be timeless Like if you took like a really classic pair of like slightly bootcut jeans Okay, and then maybe you put a super simple silhouette of a dress over it that cuts off. I Don't know maybe around the knee,
Starting point is 00:23:06 maybe a bit higher from the knee. I don't know. And it's like super simple. Maybe that could be timeless. But I think overall, layering skirts or dresses or anything of the sort over jeans is pretty trendy. And my reasoning for feeling that way is that it always kind of looks awkward, you know? Like It very rarely doesn't look awkward. And a lot of times, trends look awkward, but that's a part of the lore, which is so fascinating. But it's true. Even the hiking boot trend, where people are wearing hiking boots for fashionable reasons, hiking boots are not necessarily the most flattering.
Starting point is 00:23:44 They're kind of awkward. Like you know people are wearing marils like hiking shoes in fashionable ways or they're wearing you know a classic hiking boot that you know it's like laces up or whatever. Those shoes tend to kind of fit awkwardly and yet you know we're styling them to be cool and they're considered cool because they're trendy but when you really look at it and remove all biases, I don't know, like it's kind of awkward looking. And I feel like it's the same with dresses over pants or jeans, especially jeans.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I've been seeing that and it's so odd, but it is kind of cool. Like I appreciate interesting layering. So that's what makes it hard for me to say trendy because I do appreciate interesting layering. And I think being experimental with layering is a timeless concept. And it's also something that is easy to do with pieces that you already have, which I really appreciate. But I don't know. I think because it tends to look really awkward, I'm going to call it trendy.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And it reminds me of like the early 2000s Disney and Nickelodeon stars that would go to the kids' choice awards or, you know, teen choice awards, all those different award shows, and would wear the most insane outfits, incredible outfits, where they're like wearing these dresses over jeans with all these colorful scarves and belts, you know, like very Y2K, whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Kind of reminds me of that, which is hard for me to erase from my mind. So maybe that's a subconscious bias in my brain. Okay, next we have personalized clothing, like a little boat bag that has your name monogrammed onto it or a little claw clip with your name printed onto it or a phone case with your initials on it or shoes with your initials engraved, like whatever, personalized clothing, things that have your name on it, maybe even things that have personal meaning to you like getting a shirt that has like your dog printed on it, like whatever, personalized clothing. I actually think that this is timeless
Starting point is 00:25:46 and a great idea to be honest. I mean, I'll give you an example in my own closet. Like I got some boat bags made by LL Bean online that have Miss Emma embroidered on them. They're like little red boat bags. And yeah, they have a cute little cursive embroidering on them. And I absolutely adore those bags and I don't think I'll ever get rid of them because they
Starting point is 00:26:11 are so special to me because they say my name on them. And you know, I like people used to call me Miss Emma when I was a kid, like adults used to call me Miss Emma because I kind of had an attitude as a kid, I guess. And I was very comfortable with adults. So they're always like, okay, Miss Emma, you know kind of had an attitude as a kid, I guess. And I was very comfortable with adults. So they're always like, okay, Miss Emma, you know, like whatever you say, which is funny for me to think about in retrospect, because I grew into a pushover yes man as an adult.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So it's like, wow, where did my attitude go? Miss that every day, but all good. But yeah, like I got Miss Emma embroidered onto them because I was like, that's kind of cute. It's like my nickname from when I was a kid, whatever. And yeah, I don't think I'll ever get rid of those things. A brand one time sent me a bag. Actually, the brand Staud, S-T-A-U-D, sent me a purse with my cats painted on the bag. It was the most amazing gift ever. And I will never get rid of that bag. Do you see what I'm saying? Like personalized items are things that you will cherish
Starting point is 00:27:08 for far longer, which is in theory, what we want to do when we purchase stuff, right? Like a lot of the home decor in my house means something to me in some ways, personal to me in some way, whether it's art that my dad painted, or it's a lamp that reminds me of my childhood home or it's a little trinket that reminds me of my favorite childhood movie like whatever it is I like to buy things that have some sort of personal tie because to me that's not
Starting point is 00:27:39 trendy to me that's personal and meaningful and timeless that's how I ensure that in terms of my home, that I don't get sick of my home decor, everything means something to me. So it's not like something I picked out from the front page of a popular home decor website that's trendy right now. It's specific to my life and my experiences
Starting point is 00:28:03 and it's far deeper than a trend for me. And the same thing I think goes for clothes. Obviously, it's like, you don't want everything in your closet to be monogrammed, like that's weird. Like if every single shirt in your closet has like a monogram with your initials on it, yeah, that's a little odd and excessive maybe, it's kind of unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:28:19 But I think like when you can, it can be really special. I do think that there are times though when like personalized pieces are kind of trendy, like types of monogram can maybe be trendy. Like, you know, I remember in the 2010s, what was that brand? Was it Vera Bradley? It was the brand that sold like bags and blankets and backpacks and little travel bags and stuff. The brand sold all of those products in these intense floral patterns and they were incredibly trendy in the 2010s.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Usually they would come with some sort of monogram on them. The monogram was always in some sort of hyper trendy font. That to me is not timeless, that's whatever. But like getting a boat bag that has your nickname on it or something or getting a sweater that has a cat on it that looks like your cat, like stuff like that, personalized stuff like that, I think that that's timeless. Next, specific trucker hats, like Bass Pro Shop hats, Von Dutch hats, etc.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, these are trendy to me. It's so funny, the Bass Pro Shop hat trend is so random to me. I actually went into my first Bass Pro Shop recently. It was kind of insane. It's like literally a massive building filled with fishing, camping, gear, like anything you can imagine for outdoor experiences is in that store. And it's kind of insane.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I mean, it's kind of miraculous really. It was cool. I'm going through a phase where I'm becoming a bit more outdoorsy and I drove past a Bass Bro shop on a road trip and I was like, you know what? I'm gonna pop in more outdoorsy. And I drove past a Bass Pro Shop on a road trip. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna pop in and see, you know, if they have anything that I might want
Starting point is 00:30:12 for my outdoor escapades. And yeah, it was definitely experienced. But it's like funny that the Bass Pro Shop hat is a trend to me. I just, I don't know, it's just like so out of the blue. Like I could see it being a trend for kids who are into fishing or are into camping and they're constantly in the Bass Pro Shop store like picking up gear. But it's crazy that Tik Tokers and you know, like fashion kids are wearing the Bass Pro Shop hat. Like it's so funny to me that it became a trend. But it is simply just that.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I think it is simply just a trend because I don't know. It's just like, and I've noticed that with all trucker hats, like the Bass Pro Shop hats, I see those going soon. The Von Dutch hats kind of came and went. I loved Von Dutch for a minute there when it came back into style. You know, it kind of came back into style around the Harley Davidson era as well
Starting point is 00:31:07 when that was sort of coming back in, in a big way. And you know, the whole like motorcycle, I don't know, if only rascal flats, motorcycle, bejeweled stuff was all coming back into style in a funny way. And I kind of loved it. I thought it was funny and I was into it in a way. But it's safe to say that I've since donated every Von Dutch hat that I bought during that phase.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I am over it now. And I think the same thing's gonna happen with the Bass Pro Shop hat. And I think all of these little hyper-specific accessories, I just, none of them ever last. I think you'd be better off like buying a hat for, I don't know, your favorite random sports team or buying a hat from a vacation spot that you went to. I feel like hats like that are timeless because they have a memory associated.
Starting point is 00:32:01 Baseball caps, trucker hats even, they're always gonna be in in one way or another, but the hyper-specific ones are fleeting. The timeless ones are the ones that you pick up throughout your life. I think that's really the beauty of hats. They're kind of everywhere. At your favorite general store in the small town that you visit every summer,
Starting point is 00:32:21 in the gift shop for your favorite sports team, that's when you should be picking up these hats, not from Bass Pro Shop, just because it's trendy. Listen, if you go to Bass Pro Shop once a week to pick up fishing gear, I actually don't think the Bass Pro Shop hat is a trend for you. I think that's a lifestyle. And so fair enough. But I think for 90% of people wearing them right now, it is just a trend and it will
Starting point is 00:32:44 pass. All right, next we have Tabby shoes. If you're unfamiliar with the Tabby, the Tabby rose to popularity recently because of the brand Margiela. They have many versions of the Tabby shoe. Little Mary Jane's, boots, loafers, the list goes on. And the Tabby consists of a shoe where there's a slit in between your big toe and your second
Starting point is 00:33:11 toe. Does that make sense? I actually appreciate the tabby. I think it's a really classic shoe and I think they are cool. They've taken a bit to grow on me. I used to think that they were ridiculous because I was like, you're literally giving yourself a wedgie
Starting point is 00:33:29 in between your toes and for what? Like just wear any other shoe. Like, why would you do that? But I don't know, they've grown on me and now I actually see them as sort of a classic and I actually do think that they're timeless in a way. I think that they're understated enough that it's never gonna look goofy
Starting point is 00:33:47 to be wearing a tabby to me. Like I really don't think so. However, they're so popular right now and they are so trendy right now that they've almost lost their allure in a lot of ways for me anyway, because they're so popular that it's like, now they stick out to me as a trendy choice.
Starting point is 00:34:07 In a few years, I actually think that they're gonna be even cooler. Like I think once this trend dies down, they're actually gonna feel even more timeless. I think right now they're just, they're so over saturated that to me, it's like, oh, they're trendy, I'm sick of them. But I actually do think ultimately they are a timeless shoe
Starting point is 00:34:23 and they will always be cool in one way or another I don't really like them for myself Just because I don't like the idea of having to wear a specific type of sock when I wear a shoe Like I I also don't really like the feeling of a tabby shoe in between my toes Like I just don't really like it. So it's not for me, but I think from a design perspective, I think it's a timeless shoe, why not? Next we have massive boots, either fluffy or just dramatically large. I've been seeing these around a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:56 A year or two ago, a lot of people were wearing the moon boots, now I don't see those at all, which is so funny, like unless people are actually in the snow, the moon boots are like these massive snow shoes. But what's funny about them is that they made their way into the trend cycle in a non-functional way. Like they're these incredibly dramatic snow shoes, but people were wearing them to like music festivals
Starting point is 00:35:20 and around town, which was funny because I was like, these are hot, like hot shoes, like not hot as in like, whoa, those shoes are hot. Like those are cute. Like hot meaning like temperature, like it's like an insulator in there. I don't know how people were wearing those around in the spring and summer. It was so bizarre to me. And those were really popular for a minute there. And then they disappeared into thin air. And I haven't really seen people wearing those at all in the last year. But I'm still seeing big dramatic boots and I'm seeing a bunch of different types. Like I've seen some fluffy boots, like people wearing boots that
Starting point is 00:35:58 have a bunch of fur coming off of them. So they just look like this sort of like blob of fur. I've seen that quite a bit. I've also seen like big chunky dramatic, like I don't even know how to explain it, like really big, they look like almost biker boots or whatever, but like dramatically large and like bulbous. Okay. I don't know if you've been seeing these,
Starting point is 00:36:23 so I might sound wild right now. You might be like, I've never seen that in my life, like bulbous, okay? I don't know if you've been seeing these, so I might sound wild right now. You might be like, I've never seen that in my life, but they're very popular in like the fashion scene. Like kids who are really into fashion are wearing these big kind of goth sort of boots that are dramatic and large. I see them around LA quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I feel like all of these big boots, whether it's the fluffy ones or the more goth sort of ones, leather, rubber, black, big, bulbous boots, like regardless of whatever form they're coming in, they tend to be worn by people who are more into like a grungy aesthetic, more of a goth, but like not full goth though, like just more grungier aesthetic, like wearing a lot of black acid wash jeans, grays, dark greens, like kind of like Mad Max coated almost tends to fall into that sort of style category.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Anyway, now that I've over explained that, I really think that these are all trendy because number one, they can't be comfortable. None of these can be comfortable. Whenever things are not comfortable or they're excessive to a point where it's like, this is not actually functioning in any way, I cannot call it timeless, I just can't.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And that's definitely the case with these boots. Like a big fluffy fur boot, like you're getting shit all caught up in it. Like it reminds me of when kids would run around with their shoes untied in the playground and their shoelaces would get all frayed and then they'd get wood chips in their shoelaces. And it's just like, it just is like gross.
Starting point is 00:37:59 When you have like frayed hairs out, it just, that picks up dirt and grime and particles and shit. And it's just like a mess. Anything like that that doesn't, I don't know, that can't last you for very long, it just cannot be timeless. And then for like the big clunky bulbous black boots, those are also gonna be uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:38:19 They're huge, they're probably heavy. They do kind of look cool, you know? I actually think that there's a way for both of these to be styled that I actually can appreciate and enjoy. But ultimately, these are trendy. We will cringe at these later, I can almost guarantee. They're fun for now. And like, you know, if I were to maybe be going to a fashion show, and I could rent one of these types of, you know, one of these types of shoes for an event, maybe I would do it because I'd ultimately give them back and I wouldn't be wasting them
Starting point is 00:38:50 by letting them collect dust in my closet. But yeah, I really do think that they're just trendy. But I do kind of enjoy them. I think they can be kind of fun and cool looking. Okay, next we have bell bottom jeans. No, I'm so sorry, no. Those are absolutely trendy. The 70s sort of bell bottom,
Starting point is 00:39:16 I've seen those come and go in my life once. Yeah, like I feel like 2018, 2019, I feel like the bell bottom kind of came back and maybe that was just in my imagination, but I felt that happen. And then they disappeared again. Overall I don't love them. I think that there are a lot of like 70s vibes that are really great and actually are timeless. In fact, I actually just recently got back into going to the flea markets in Los Angeles and like
Starting point is 00:39:46 hunting around and seeing what stuff is there and I've picked up a lot of 70s pieces. But what I've been picking up is pieces that are maybe lightly flared or lightly boot cut with simple patterns, lots of stripes, but nothing too wild. There's a lot of amazing styles from the 70s, like especially like dress pants, like 70s dress pants are so nice. Like they tend to be, at least the women's cuts tend to be like nice and tight in the butt and like have a cute little boot cut
Starting point is 00:40:20 and they have like nice little pleats on them sometimes and like they're gorgeous. But the bell bottom, I just know it just I can't it's just it's so it's so excessive like a boot cut. A boot cuts timeless to me. A little boot cut, a little flair like I think that for the most part that's timeless to me because it's subtle. It is subtle. Unless it's low wasted. Whenever anything's low wasted consider it trendy to me. I hate low wasted. I think it's subtle. It is subtle. Unless it's low-waisted. Whenever anything's low-waisted, consider it trendy to me. I hate low-waisted. I think it's always trendy. I think it always goes out of style.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And so do with that what you will. But like mid to mid-high-waisted boot cut, I think that that's kind of timeless. I don't know though. Now that I'm thinking about it. No, I think it is timeless. I think it is. Especially in pants. In jeans, it's a bit harder to say, but in pants, timeless.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But bell bottoms, fuck no, uh-uh. Those are, they are so trendy and actually I hate them. I really do not like bell bottoms. I used to kind of like them, but now I fucking hate them. I don't know what happened. Okay, next we have socks with sandals. Call me crazy, to me this is timeless. Like, I actually weirdly think a sock with a sandal,
Starting point is 00:41:30 like a sock with a Birkenstock or I don't know, what other kind of sandal can you wear socks with? I don't even know. But I think it's weirdly more timeless than wearing like a Birkenstock with no sock. Is that crazy? Kind of, but I don't know. That's how I feel.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It's casual, it's like kind of silly and funny, but it's so functional and it's so comfortable. And it actually can be styled in really cute ways. Like I love a sock with a sandal and like, I don't know, like a casual, like khaki pant or something. Like, I don't know, that's cute to me. Or like a little loose jean that maybe like comes up a bit high, like kind of slightly high water,
Starting point is 00:42:14 maybe a little bit. I don't know, I think that's cute. I don't think that will ever go out, but maybe it will and maybe I'm wrong. This is one where I could see myself being wrong. The socks and the sandals have been in for pretty much my whole life. And it's always been in in a very tongue and cheek
Starting point is 00:42:27 sort of way, like it's always been sort of a silly thing, but it's also something that can be styled in a really cute way. I weirdly say timeless for that, but some of you might disagree. So let me know and shoot me a message on any social media platform at Anything Goes and just let me know what you think of that
Starting point is 00:42:46 because I might be wrong. Okay, next we have cargo skirts. You know, I actually kind of like cargo everything. Depends on the cargo. Cargo can be hit or miss. So it's hard to say. Like sometimes cargo can be really extreme and trendy. Sometimes there'll be little low-waisted cargo pants or super mini cargo shorts or I don't
Starting point is 00:43:15 know, a cargo skirt that's gray that has neon pink stitching. That's sort of extreme and trendy to me. So there are ways that cargo can be trendy. But I would say when cargo is classic and it's just, you know, in neutral colors, like olive green, khaki, black, gray, and there aren't any extreme stitching or any extreme low waist or short short or whatever, I actually think it can be timeless. But I would say probably 75% of the time, cargo is trendy. And when it comes to cargo skirts, I'd say 80% of the time, it's trendy.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'd say there's like a 20% chance that they're timeless. They have to be very simple, I think. I also think that they have to be long. Like, I think a cargo mini skirt is far more trendy than, like, a knee or mid-calf length cargo skirt. But some of you might disagree. Like, I do think some of you might say, cargo everything is trendy, and, like, it comes and goes. And I know it does, because I've seen cargo come and go
Starting point is 00:44:21 throughout my life, but I don't know, something tells me in my gut that at times it can be timeless. Okay, next we have chunky platform sandals slash flip-flops. No, trendy. In fact, I would go as far as to say chunky platform shoes in general are trendy. It's very trendy right now to see people wearing, you know, like platform Converse or like platform Vans, the platform Uggs. I used to be obsessed with platforms.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I used to wear only platform shoes. And I liked the way that they made me look taller, okay? I enjoyed that. And I felt like they made my legs look longer. I felt like they were really flattering. And I was fully on the platform wave. But I eventually jumped off and I'm no longer on that wave anymore because ultimately I do not think that they're timeless.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Platform anything to me is not timeless. And in fact, I am now looking at platform shoes and I kind of feel like they're a little goofy and I used to wear them. So I'm allowed to say that. Like, I just can't get behind it anymore. I think that they're excessive in a way and that's what makes them trendy, you know? They're unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And a lot of times they do kind of look goofy and they're like uncomfortable too a lot of times. Like, the shoe is usually heavier if it's a platform. I don't know, I say trendy for the chunky platform sandal and flip-flop but I also say Especially trendy for sneakers and stuff, too but like to go back to the sandal bit because I kind of went off topic and started talking about sneakers for some reason or Other platform shoes. I don't know. It was like really trendy to wear big
Starting point is 00:46:02 Flips flops. In fact, I actually wore them not in my real life, like not in day-to-day life, but like in a few photo shoots and stuff. I wore big sort of chunky platform sandals and flip-flops and stuff. And for photo shoots where, you know, I borrow clothes from brands and then ultimately give it back. So I'm not, again, like wasting things
Starting point is 00:46:22 adding them in my closet. Like it was fun then because they kind of are extreme and You know sort of dramatic or whatever and fun, but for day-to-day life Trendy and I really I Don't recommend anyone purchase a big platform chunky flip-flop Although I'll always have sort of an affection towards a big platform flip-flop because my mom have sort of an affection towards a big platform flip-flop because my mom wore them so often when I was growing up. And so I will always have sort of an affection for them. But I just think that they're trendy and I think that they're uncomfortable as well. And they're
Starting point is 00:46:56 just kind of goofy when you really look at them. All right, next we have Coquette. I've had a hard time defining what Coquette is, but I Googled it finally and understood. It's basically a hyper feminine aesthetic, you know, lots of white frilly stuff, light pink pastel frilly stuff, you know, lots of bows and frills and little Mary Jane shoes. It's somewhat juvenile in a lot of ways too. Like it has this sort of air of young girl in some ways. And to me, this is a trend as well. I think that there are elements that are timeless.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Like I think white blouses and light pink blouses, I think that at times those can be timeless, especially if they're really reminiscent of a certain era or something. I think that at times those can be timeless, especially if they're really reminiscent of a certain era or something. I think that can be timeless. I think at times even like frills and bows and things can be timeless as well. I think like a Mary Jane shoe is a timeless shoe overall. But I think when they're all added together in this very costume sort of way. To me, it's just, it's too costume-like in a way that is almost unsustainable. And I think many people will get sick of it.
Starting point is 00:48:12 So they'll participate in it for a bit, but I think it gets fatiguing to be in costume like that all the time, and you end up wanting to reinvent yourself eventually. And so I think that it's trendy. And that's it for today's Trendy or Timeless. I really hope that you enjoyed it. Let me know what you think about these trends
Starting point is 00:48:31 if you agree with me. If you disagree with me, let me know why. If you want to participate in Trendy or Timeless, feel free to DM at Anything Goes and let me know what trends you've been seeing. You can let me know trends that you love, trends that you hate, trends that you're neutral about. Literally any trend that you're seeing, let me know.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And also keep an eye out on Instagram at Anything Goes as well, because every once in a while I'll post a story and say, hey, let me know what trends you're seeing right now. I'm recording this episode. Please submit what trends you're seeing. And maybe I'll discuss a trend that you want me to discuss.
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Starting point is 00:49:40 but rather the product that you have ordered. Thank you all for listening and hanging out. It's always such a pleasure and a joy. I could rant about clothes for the rest of my life. Literally, I wish there were more trends so that I'd have more to talk about. I could do this every week, but unfortunately, actually fortunately, no, let me correct myself. Fortunately, there aren't new trends to discuss every week. If that were the case, that would not be good for society or for the donation bins.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's just not good. It's overflowing at goodwill. We can't have that. So it's thank God that it's not as fast as it maybe could be considering the internet. But it's still too fast. Okay. Anyway, I'm done talking. I love you all.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I appreciate you all. Thank you for listening and I hope to talk to you soon. And I love you and bye. talking. I love you all. I appreciate you all. Thank you for listening and I hope to talk to you soon. And I love you and bye. Okay, talk to you later. Bye.

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