anything goes with emma chamberlain - burnout

Episode Date: April 30, 2020

We’ve all had that feeling of being burnt out: your brain is fried, you’re unmotivated, and you’re physically and mentally exhausted. Emma’s been there too. Whether it’s from school, YouTube..., friendships, or life in general. She gets deep and personal on how to deal with burnout of all kinds, and how you can use it to come back better than ever. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody. Welcome back to anything goes with me. I'm Emma and I'm a little bit emotionally unstable. So I think we first need to talk about how I'm doing. Just to give you guys a little bit of context as to why my voice is a little bit shaky. Like I'm kind of a mess. I'm not sure if quarantine has gotten to me or if I just was due for a little panic attack. But last night, I had one of the craziest panic attacks I've ever had. I won't get into like much of it cause just not interesting.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Like, that's just like not fun to talk about. But I was sitting on my kitchen counter with my mom and I just like had this panic attack and I was like, I've never freaked out the way I freaked out last night. And so it's definitely taking a little bit of a toll on me today. Like if you've ever had a panic attack, you know, I like the next day you just feel If you've ever had a panic attack, you know how like the next day you just feel heavy and so tired in my face is So swollen my eyes cannot open all the way like I don't know what is wrong, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:01:18 This podcast is therapy for me in a sense and so This will make me feel better. So fuck it. We're here to party today Get over what happened yesterday. Who cares? It's time to let loose and enjoy Each other's company. So Today we're gonna be talking about burning out or a something say burn out whatever For those of you that don't know what burning out means it's basically when you overwork yourself and then you can't do anything properly.
Starting point is 00:01:47 I guess that's, I don't know if that's the right definition, it's when you overwork yourself and become kind of uninspired. So that's burnout. This happens to me a lot and it has happened to me a lot. Throughout my life, not even just since I started YouTube, but like I've always Burned myself out because I'm the type of person that when I have a task I like to complete it like all in one sitting. I don't like to complete things over a period of time
Starting point is 00:02:15 So in school if I'd be given a project I'd finish it all in one day or with a YouTube video I sometimes feel like I need to finish it all in one day, or else it's eating at my mind when I'm not working on it. And so I try to finish everything all in one sitting. And I usually overdo it. Like I tend to like work on things for too long. And then I freak out. Like I know why I freak out, you know. But I want to talk about it and give
Starting point is 00:02:46 some advice on how I avoid it and just have an overall discussion about it because I think although burnout for me now is more YouTube related, I've been dealing with this my own life and I think it's a conversation that's good to have. I know a lot of YouTubers have talked about this but I thought might as well take my own little span on it, take my own, take a spit. What is that phrase? I'm a little bit fried. Not high, I'm not high, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm fried as in like my brain
Starting point is 00:03:19 just feels like kind of fucked up. I wish you guys could see me right now. My eyes look so funny, because they were like so swollen that it looks like I have pink eye in both my eyes, which honestly could be true. I could just be having pink eye. More on that later. I am really off topic.
Starting point is 00:03:42 So, let's start out with the first time I felt burnt out. It was in school, especially sophomore year. I was taking four honors classes, which is basically at my school. You couldn't take it. It was like, I don't know how it worked. Whatever. I was taking honors classes, four of them. And I was obsessed with the thought of college at the time. And so, I was taking honors classes for them and I was obsessed with the thought of college at the time. And so I was just working myself to the bone every single day. Like spending eight hours a day on homework, doing sports at the same time, all of that, studying constantly. And like, I was always burnout. Like, I was always like on the brink of tears
Starting point is 00:04:31 at all times during that time. I didn't wanna be doing what I was doing. Like, I was working that hard, but I felt like I was doing it for nothing. Kinda was, not really, but it didn't end up using whatever I just never took a break. I never took a break not one day in the whole school year did I take a break Not even during the summer because then I was doing summer reading it was like I never got a break And it drove me fucking insane like it literally drove me crazy and
Starting point is 00:05:02 I was constantly burnt out. And in school, when you're burned out, it's not like, oh, I can take a break if I want to because I make land schedules, like, no, you have to keep going. And that's what's really tough about it. And that's why you kind of need to cure your own burnout while simultaneously doing the work at school, which is really tough.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I never personally figured it out because by the time I was out of school, I still hadn't figured it out. I'm going to try to give my past self some advice, and maybe you guys can use. Don't take as many hard classes if you can't handle it. That was just stupid. Don't do as many sports if you can't handle it. That was stupid. Don't know why I did that.
Starting point is 00:05:45 And if you don't finish your homework by one, I am going to sleep. I should have just done that. Would my grades have suffered a little bit, but would I have had a happier life? Yes. So that's what I would have done in retrospect. And I mean, now I know that when you're all wrapped up
Starting point is 00:06:04 in school in the moment, you think that it's the only thing that matters and that if you don't get into the best college and you don't do this and you don't do that, that you're a failure, but actually none of that ship matters. And really what matters is the relationships with people in your life. And that's it. That's literally the only thing that matters is your relationship with yourself and with others. Nothing else matters. Money, grades, all of that shit.
Starting point is 00:06:37 All of that is obviously something that affects your life. But at the end of the day, if you don't have people that you love in your life and you don't love yourself, then none of that shit matters. And like grades, they just don't matter. Do your best. Don't not do it, but just do your best. And if that means straight C's, it means straight C's, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 You're still gonna have a great life regardless of what college you go to. I think so many people are so stressed out about college and that can cause school burnout because you're putting all this pressure on yourself to like go to some amazing college that like looks really good on a piece of paper and maybe would even be a fun experience who knows. But like you could also have a amazing time at a different college that was reasonable for you to get into that you didn't have to break your back getting into. So that's that. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. There's no instruction manual when it comes to being an adult. Sometimes I lay away at night rehashing something I said earlier that day,
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Starting point is 00:09:17 and it made me have like an existential crisis about like the fact that like I, I don't know why that just made me like, I have like a weird, deep shower thought just now when I said that I'm a YouTuber, because I like forget sometimes, even though I like do it every day all day, every day, but like sometimes you forget what you're doing in your life.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like I feel like I kind of forget, like I just float through everything sometimes and I like forget what I'm doing. If that makes sense and then it just kinda like don't, don't me, I just thought about it and that was weird. Anyway, I've been having a lot of those types of thoughts recently and they kinda freak me out where I like really deeply think about something
Starting point is 00:09:57 that like is really obvious and mundane but like I never put thought towards it and then it like freaks me out because I never actually think about it or give it any mental real estate and then I freak out. Does that make sense? Whatever. So, I've been trying to figure out why YouTubers get so burnt out and I think it's simply because there's no, there's no end in sight.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It's always the next video. It's always trying to figure out what's next. There's no like summer vacation. It's like a job. It's like, I mean, obviously, it's like a real job where I mean, I don't like to call that. I think that's so fucking stupid. But I'm saying like, for people who have jobs,
Starting point is 00:10:40 like that are like nine to five. It's a similar situation because it's like, there's no summer break Maybe there is sometimes that's about I don't know what I'm talking about that's kind of a bad comparison, but like there's no break you just have to keep going every single week and
Starting point is 00:10:59 Giving yourself a break is like not Acceptable in the YouTube community like people are always like so judgmental of people who take a break of people who take a break. Sorry, I had a voice crack. They don't like that's not that's considered lazy. Like if you decide to take a break on YouTube, you know, people will be like, oh, you're so lazy. Like why are you taking a break? Well, this is if you don't announce it. I used to take breaks literally once every two weeks, like a year and a half ago on YouTube. And I wasn't like announcing
Starting point is 00:11:33 my breaks. I would just take a break because I needed it and I was going through things. But every comment I would get would be like, you're so lazy. Like, you don't even work hard anymore. And so lazy, like you don't even work hard anymore. And it would then force me to overwork myself in a sense to like prove those comments wrong in a sense. But then that would in turn make me even more burnt out. And then I'd need to take another two weeks off because I just could not do it. I just could not do it.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Mentally, I would crack if I tried because I was burnt out. And I can't even explain the feeling. It's just like, it's like you could not physically, emotionally do something if you even tried because you're so burnt out that you can't even do it. If you even started to do whatever your task is, you would just, you would have to stop because you can't do it. That's what burnout is for me. And I would feel like that with YouTube and like my content was suffering in a sense, like
Starting point is 00:12:31 my videos were not as good because I was forcing myself to be in it and I wasn't at the time and that was normal. But because all the comments were telling me that it wasn't normal, that I wasn't uploading and that I was just being lazy, it made me feel so bad about myself, that I would just continuously keep burning myself out, trying to prove the last comments wrong,
Starting point is 00:12:59 but then I would just get burned out again and get more of the comments. And that never ended for like six months. And it was just this cycle of burnout. And I was just trying to run away from that issue by just like doing other things and trying to like immerse myself back into the real world a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But then that wouldn't even help either. And so I was just kind of stuck in this tough spot. I think at the end of the day, the only thing you can do to cure burnout is to fix your relationship with whatever you're getting burned out about. For me, with YouTube, I realized that my workload that I was giving myself was something that was not sustainable, mentally, was something that was not sustainable mentally. Because I was filming, and then I would edit for like 30 hours in a week for that video, upload it, and then do the whole thing over again.
Starting point is 00:13:53 And I never had a free day in the week. Not to mention I wasn't sleeping. I've noticed that not sleeping really makes burnout worse. So I wasn't sleeping, and I was like working every single day on YouTube videos just to get one video up week, which is not even that many, you know, it's not even uploading as much as I would have wanted to, but because editing took me so long, I could only upload once a week, but then that made me feel bad about myself because some YouTubers were uploading more and then I was getting
Starting point is 00:14:25 compared to them. Like, Emma, why do you only upload once a week or like once every two weeks when everybody else uploads like this much? And it was just all of these words in my head while my self-esteem was low because I felt burnt out and lazy. I felt lazy because everybody was saying I was lazy but really I was just trying to fix my relationship with YouTube.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And so I couldn't do that as quickly because I had this background noise that I didn't know how to tune out yet. And so it just would get worse and worse. What I ended up doing that truly fixed my burnout problem was like an editor who's amazing shout out to Anderson. He's definitely not listening to this, but that man is so talented and he's literally saved my life and like made doing YouTube fun for me again.
Starting point is 00:15:13 And you know, he just gets, he literally edits how I would edit anyway. And it's just so amazing. Like, you know, it took us a while. I think he's been editing for me for almost a year now. And yeah, almost a year now, that's crazy. And it took some time to figure out to combine our editing styles.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But now we have it down and he's just so great. And that's truly fixed my burnout problem. Like truly fixed my burnout problem. I have not felt burnt out since. I mean, maybe once or twice, but not really. I've been doing so much better. I think what I've realized is that letting people help you with whatever you're doing,
Starting point is 00:15:57 instead of trying to put it all on your own plate, really helps with burnout. Because feeling like you have a team of people who are riding for you and Can help you with whatever you're doing like that gives you this sense of calmness and like Also the support you need to complete the task in a way that's not impossible But I also started to believe that if what I was doing Didn't feel
Starting point is 00:16:24 I wasn't working hard enough. Like, I didn't wanna get an editor because I thought that I would be lazy if I got an editor. When in reality, I was overworking myself before without an editor. Now with an editor, I think I'm working in a amount that is like healthy for me.
Starting point is 00:16:41 But I thought that working a healthy amount was lazy. I thought that the only way to work hard is to work to a point where you're ruining your own life. That is just not true. And I don't know why I was, who hurt me, like I don't know why I was like that. And I still get burnt out though to this day. I know I actually had a burnout kind of recently and it really showed this time around. I had no video ideas and I just
Starting point is 00:17:07 wasn't feeling as comfortable on camera as normal. I just think I was going through a phase with my own self and my own personality and trying to kind of figure out who I was and I was just thinking about my personal life a lot. And so on camera, I just didn't have like the demeanor that I wanted. And so all my videos were coming out really bad and I hated all of them. One of them being this video where I tried to die my hair and then I decided the bleach didn't work
Starting point is 00:17:36 because I dyed my hair brown previously. So like the dye wasn't sticking to the hair. The bleach wasn't sticking to the hair and whatever. And then I didn't end up tying my hair and then the whole video, like everybody said it was pointless and it's like my most disliked video, whatever, it was funny. It was funny in retrospect, it's fine. It was one video we moved on.
Starting point is 00:17:55 But that was a video I created during burnout and it got like the worst response I've ever gotten out of any video I've ever uploaded. And I think that that's what's really tough about it is that when you're burning out a Lot of times you'll create content or you'll create things in general that you're not really that proud of But you just kind of have to keep pushing through it and so you might upload it you might put it out there you might you know Submit whatever task you're doing for you know, I'm trying to make this really dull scenarios, but
Starting point is 00:18:23 You might like make something that you're not that proud of, but I have to use it anyway. And then you might get criticism for it. And while you're in a burnout stage, that can be really tough because you're really vulnerable and emotional. And that's what happens to me is that every time
Starting point is 00:18:39 I make a good video that I like and that people respond well to, I'm in a good place, so it's great. But then every time I make a video while I'm burnt out, I hate, everybody else hates it, and then it makes everything worse. So what I've realized is, at least for my situation, if I feel burnt out, I just stop. And the way that I prevent burnout now with filming in whatever is I, whenever I'm feeling really good, I'm feeling rested, I'm feeling happy, and I'm feeling like in a good mood, energetic, I'll film like two videos and get it over with, you know, so that I have two videos banked
Starting point is 00:19:26 and then I'm not stressed about coming up with the idea for the next video, I'm just, I already have some there, you know what I mean? That I'm excited about and stuff like that. That kind of prevents burnout because then I don't feel pressure. I think pressure creates burnout a lot faster as well. So that's what I do. Recently I've been doing really good. Although I have been feeling a little bit burned out recently because I've been staying home.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I've been struggling with coming up with video ideas that excite me that are strictly in my house. But the way that I've been avoiding that is by pre-filming. And just like, you know, I had, but the way that I've been avoiding that is by pre-filming. And just like, you know, I had, I have two videos already filmed right now, so I don't have to worry too much about my next video. And that's how I'm kind of, like I have a week to figure out what I wanna film next, you know what I mean? And that gives me time to work on all the other things
Starting point is 00:20:21 I need to work on, have a personal life as well and Take my time when it comes to coming up with my next video idea and I think that that's been creating a lot better content that I'm a lot more proud of and To all of you who are going through burnout right now I want to say that I get it. It is the worst feeling but Whenever I come out of a really shitty burnout stage, I always end up creating stuff that's better than before, before, once it's over. Like, it tends to kind of make me, it opens my eyes a little bit, and it makes me more motivated. And next thing I know, I have like 10 ideas that I really, really
Starting point is 00:21:08 fuck with but you have to go out through burnout stages to like have those really good times where you're really motivated and you're really inspired which sucks it sucks that it has to work like that I wish it didn't but it's normal but I think that not a lot of people talk about their burnout and how it affects their self-esteem and all of that. I think that people tend to sweep that under the rug. But it can really affect yourself a steam. Your personal life, I know what I'm burning out.
Starting point is 00:21:40 I don't want to hang out with anybody. I feel shit about myself. When I look in the mirror, I look worse. Like everything is bad for me when I'm burning out. But it's human and it's normal and it might happen again in my life. It definitely will. I can almost guarantee it's going to happen to me again in my life. And when it does, I'm going to fucking get through it.
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Starting point is 00:24:22 Visit Chevy.com forward slash tracks to learn more. All right. So now, let's go on to the little Twitter and ask some questions or answer some questions about burnout. Let me find a few. First question. What's your go-to activity when you're emotionally burnt out? When I'm really burnt out, I like to exercise as much as possible because I think releasing endorphins is really important for me. I try to work out once a day, every other day, like whatever I'm feeling right now, every other day, just because I've been feeling kind of mentally exhausted
Starting point is 00:24:59 a little bit from staying home. And although working out can help that, sometimes I just don't have it in me. And I know that I don't have it in me right now to work out every day. I know that I'm not motivated enough to do that. So I made it a goal to work out every other day. And that's been working for me because it's an attainable goal.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And you know, it's a great habit to have. I don't need to be working out every day. Every other day is perfect and so that's been helping me a lot. Not only saying like not that helps me right but that also helps me when I'm feeling burnt out is just exercising as much as possible. Even just a little bit like going for a walk anything like I don, I'm not saying doing some sort of intense exercise. I'm just saying, like any form of exercise at all, I don't care what it is. Fucking doing 10 push-ups. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Like working out a little bit when you're feeling burnt out really helps because number one makes you feel productive in another area of your life, which makes you feel a little bit more in control, which helps when you're burning out, but also it does release endorphins. So working out is a good one, but also I think relaxing going on your computer, going on fucking Pinterest and scrolling through and like getting kind of inspired by other people's ideas and images, that can be really helpful. I go on Pinterest all the time for like fashion inspiration,
Starting point is 00:26:29 cooking inspiration, like shit, like not like I fucking cook, but like if I was gonna cook, I have a Pinterest board for it, but I don't cook, so I never use it, but like if I ever wanna cook, like it's an option because I have a Pinterest board. But I think Pinterest is really inspiring and cool because you know, there's like a lot of cool stuff on there and it can kind of like Get your creative juices flowing in a different area, which can then help with your burnout
Starting point is 00:26:51 Sometimes I get ideas when I'm on Pinterest randomly because it's just like I'll see somebody's cute outfit. I'm like, oh, I want to do a video where I Do something with clothes like I'll get an idea or I'll see something like a recipe and I'll be like Oh my god, I want to make that for a cooking with them a video whatever and then I get an idea from that So I can be a recipe and I'll be like, oh my god, I wanna make that for a cooking with them, a video, whatever, and then I get an idea from that. So that can be really inspiring and good. So those are my two activities. Somebody asked me, do you feel like you're burning out of YouTuber uploading weekly?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Not right now, actually, I've been feeling really good. At least for the past week or two. I was having a little bit of a tough time last night coming up with a video idea because I'm just running out of ideas because I just do the same thing every single day. I was having a little bit of a tough time last night coming up with a video idea because I'm just running out of ideas because I just do the same thing every single day. And so I kind of ran out of things to do at home, but I came up with an idea with my friend Olivia.
Starting point is 00:27:36 We brainstormed in the car for like an hour and so now I have an idea and we are all good. And you know, struggling to come up with a video idea is not burning out. It can sometimes lead to a burnout, but because I ended up coming up with a few ideas, it ended up not burning me out. That makes sense. But no, I feel really good right now. Next question, what do you do when you run out of ideas? Sometimes I do take a break. Sometimes I do take a break and I'm just like, you know what, I can't upload this week because I just don't have an idea. Or sometimes I'll film something
Starting point is 00:28:12 that I'm not that excited about. IE the hair video that everybody thought I staged or whatever. I like to brainstorm with people. When I don't have ideas, I'll call my dad, I'll call my mom, I'll call my mom. I'll talk to my friends, Olivia and Amanda, they'll help me or even, you know, like anybody, I'll talk to anybody and just see if they have anything that I think would be fun.
Starting point is 00:28:38 But sometimes I come up with ideas randomly at 2am as well and then, you know, that ends up helping me too. When I just randomly come, you know, that ends up helping me too. When I just randomly come up with something, that's always the best. Somebody said, how do you feel about YouTube as a career? I don't like calling YouTube a career, even though technically it is, because I just love it. And I didn't start it
Starting point is 00:29:05 because I wanted it to be a career. So it's like weird now that it is because it wasn't like I made it my career. It became my career and I didn't even kind of have control over it. It just kind of happened. I think it's an amazing career, but I do think that and I'm so fucking grateful.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I've never been more grateful for anything in my life, and I never want to come off as ungrateful, because there is not, besides my family, like, in my friends, there's not one other thing in this world that I'm more grateful for, because this is, like, you know, it's a dream come true. And it blows my mind and I like, I don't know how I could show how grateful I am. Like I don't know how I could accurately portray my gratitude.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Like I don't know if there's a way or words. And that sounds so corny and like whatever. And I know sometimes I get a little corny on here, not normally, but on here. I get a little corny. What's up with that? But I'm so grateful and I'm It truly like the connection I have with those who watch my videos and listen to my podcast or whatever that like you know get me and shit That is something that is so magical to me to feel like I have people that understand me and that care about me and I care about you guys even though we've never met.
Starting point is 00:30:35 It's so special. And like whenever I meet anybody that watches my videos or listens to my podcast or whatever, I feel like I have such a quick connection with anybody that I meet because of the way that it is, just because of the way that it is. I meet somebody who watches my videos and I immediately have a connection with them because they know me, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:59 And I know that, I know that they know me. So then I feel comfortable and it's just so cool. And I couldn't ask for anything else. I'm so beyond grateful for everything in the opportunities. It has given me, sorry for being sappy for a minute, but this is just something I never would have pictured to happening. And so even though YouTube as a career,
Starting point is 00:31:24 I feel like a fucking asshole complaining about it. Or like talking about burnout even because it's like, I am so grateful that I don't want my venting to come off. It's like, I'm ungrateful, you know. It is tough. It does have its struggles. It, you know, it wouldn't be a human thing if it didn't. But overall, there's nothing I'd rather be doing.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Somebody said, do you ever think about quitting YouTube? Honestly, no. I used to, when I had to do my own videos, I just wanted to be done. I was like, I don't wanna do this anymore. It's too much. It's too much on me emotionally, and like physically because I wasn't sleeping,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I was like, I don't think I can do this anymore. And I almost quit a few times, but I never did, we're here, and I love it, and I wouldn't wanna be doing anything else. And I think especially within the past two weeks, I've just been feeling really in love with YouTube again in its own way, not saying it doesn't have struggles still, but like I just feel like this good feeling
Starting point is 00:32:33 about it, and I'm feeling so happy because when I'm making videos that I like, it makes me feel so happy. Like I just feel so good in every other element of my life when I feel inspired with YouTube and yeah Sorry, I burped Sorry, I keep throwing up a little bit in my mouth Don't know why that always happens to me when I'm recording
Starting point is 00:32:56 It might be the position that I'm sitting in I'm like Slightly propped up on my wall, I'm leaning against my wall on my closet and it's just like kind of a weird angle. So I'm probably fucking up my back and then it's making my meat have acid reflux. So anyway, next question, somebody said, do you procrastinate a lot? No, not really.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I have never been a huge procrastinator. I mean, I am with only mundane stuff. Like if my mom's like, I'll give you an example that happened a few weeks ago. My mom was like, can you put your license? No, not your license. It was like put your insurance, your new insurance card for your car in your car, right?
Starting point is 00:33:39 I literally procrastinated putting that in my car for like two weeks. And it wasn't gonna be a hard, going to be a hard task to complete. I just needed to take it down with me the next time I went to go drive somewhere, but I kept forgetting and I didn't really care enough, so I just never did it. So I'll procrastinate like little mundane things like that. But when it comes to like work and stuff like that, I don't procrastinate. Like maybe once in a great while, but like normally I need to get things done because I don't procrastinate. Like maybe once in a great while, but like normally I need to get things done
Starting point is 00:34:07 because I can't rest until things are done. So my brain won't allow me to procrastinate because I'm so anal about getting shit done that like, I can't close my eyes at night knowing that there's something I need to be doing. It's a blessing in disguise, but it's a blessing in a curse but it's a blessing in a curse and it's a blessing in disguise.
Starting point is 00:34:28 If that makes sense. Somebody said, do you think it's possible to feel burnt out of something you genuinely love to do? Yes, I think you can get burnt out with anything. It has, it more as to do with your mental state than it does with the task that you're doing. Like, if you really love something, that love will be there forever, but that doesn't mean that you're not going to get burned out.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I love you, dude, with like every bone in my body. It truly is something that I love so much. I like can't explain it how much I love it, but I get burned out all the time. And I'm confident in my love for it. So for sure, somebody asked you, you ever get burned out all the time. And I'm confident in my love for it. So for sure. Somebody asked you, you ever get burnt out of a friendship? What do you do?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Yes, totally. That's super normal. And it can even be, you can get burnt out with somebody in your life that like, you love, and that you don't want to cut out of your life. Like, that's super normal. It doesn't mean that they're a bad person for you or that whatever just might mean that you spent too much time with them.
Starting point is 00:35:34 This has happened to me. I think the distance is key. As they say, distance makes a love grow fonder. Take some time away from this person. If you're burnt out from them, it probably means that you're spending too much time with them. Take a break. Hang out with some other people.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Tell them you're busy. Distance yourself from them for a little bit. And then when you guys hang out again, I promise it'll be better. It's just you need to separate yourself from them for a little bit because, you need to regain your appreciation for them as a person in your life.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And the only way to do that is to have some distance from it. Somebody said, is it better to give yourself time to relax after burning out and let yourself slack off a little bit or keep working on things even if you aren't able to put your best effort into it? I'm really torn on this one because I think that it depends because I do both. I kind of listen to my body and my mind in a sense. My immediate thought was saying to keep working a little bit, but I think the key is to keep
Starting point is 00:36:37 working but not on what you're burnt out about. Does that make sense? So let's say for me, I'm burnt out about YouTube. I'm not going to go film a YouTube video right then. I'm going to go be productive in another area. I'm going to go do the dishes. I'm going to go clean the litter box. I'm going to go exercise. I'm going to go hang out with my friends. I'm going to go be productive in other areas. Because then that's strengthening me so that I can film a YouTube video and be in a better place. Because if I film a YouTube video and it ends up not being good because I wasn't in the right mental state and I didn't do a good job because I was burnt out, it ends up being a product that I don't like
Starting point is 00:37:15 and that nobody else likes and then it was just pointless and I should have just taken a break. Do you see what I'm saying? So sometimes taking a break is less painful than keeping on going when you are just really done and nothing good can come out of your work at that time. Somebody said how to avoid mental breakdowns during times when you're feeling burnt out. The key is to remember that everyone goes through this, you have gone through this before
Starting point is 00:37:42 and you will go through this again. It's an inevitable part of life. People get burnt out. There's just no way to avoid it. So, if you remember how normal it is and remember that you're going to get through it, and remember that it won't ruin you, getting burnt out for a few weeks, maybe even a few months, will not ruin you. You can come back from it. You just have
Starting point is 00:38:06 to be motivated to do so and you just have to put the time in the effort into doing so once you are ready. Just remember that it's normal. There's nothing wrong with it. It's human. And it means that you're working hard at something. Because if you're burnt out, then that means you must have been working hard. Keep going, keep going, don't give up, don't say, oh, I'm burned out right now, I'm never gonna make a YouTube video again. I'm never gonna go to college,
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm never gonna follow my dream to do blank. Don't say that, just say, let's ride through this. I'm gonna give myself a break and we're gonna work on this later and everything's gonna be okay. It hard. It's easier. It's been done, but still Wow somebody just said something that I've never Thought about but I think that it's actually really true somebody asked me is burning out a part of the process of building stamina in
Starting point is 00:38:59 Whatever you're doing I Can that is a great point I do think now in retrospect that when I burn out afterwards it does help me build stamina because I have this time to relax recharge and then when I come back I'm like ready to go after my burnout and I have all of this stamina that I normally don't have. So I normally don't have. So I think it really does. I think that's a great point. So remember that when you're freaking out about being burnout.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Remember, this is building stamina in a sense. Somebody said, how do you continue to be a good friend while you're burned out? I totally get this question because being burnt out in one area of your life will affect the rest. I say this a lot, but you need to spend some time by yourself before you can hang out with people because you don't want to bring that emotional energy into your friendship with somebody else when you're really emotional about something, it can be kind of tough for the other person to be dealing
Starting point is 00:40:07 with you when you might be going through that. So take a little bit of time to yourself, think about it, talk yourself out of it a little bit, and then going out with your friends, maybe even vent to them about it, but take some time to like get your ducks in a row here first Before you go and you hang out with people because I Think that that's kept a lot of my relationships strong is Making sure that I'm in the right state of mind to be with friends so that I'm being a good friend And I'm not letting my emotions fuck up my friendships
Starting point is 00:40:42 Because I don't want my emotional problems to be my friends problems because that's not their problem that's not their issue that's mine inventing and you know talking about it with them is amazing and very constructive and I do not I'm not saying don't do that and I'm not saying to isolate yourself the whole time I'm just saying getting yourself in or in line a little bit separating yourself from your line a little bit, separating yourself from your problem a little bit and living in the moment with your friend is important, but sometimes you need to take a little bit of time yourself before you can actually do
Starting point is 00:41:14 that. I don't know if that made sense or if I even worded that correctly, but yeah, that's what I do. Somebody has me if I ever get burnt out of coffee like I get sick of it. No, that does not happen. Although sometimes I get burnt out of certain coffee like certain cafes because like when I make coffee at home I can kind of make it differently every time. So it kind of switches it up. Use different blends if I'm using an espresso machine. I love my cold brew, chrysan, chairmancoffee.com.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I never get sick of that. I really don't have it yet, I might. But I will get burned out of certain cafes. Sometimes I'm like, this one sucks right now. Like sometimes I'll go too many times and then I mean, now I can't go to cafes sadly. But when I was able to go to cafes whenever I wanted, there would be just certain times when I'd get sick of the flavor. I had a matcha phase where I was able to go to cafes whenever I wanted. There would be just certain times
Starting point is 00:42:05 when I'd get sick of the flavor. I had a matcha phase where I was like drinking matcha every single day instead of coffee. I don't know, just to try something new, spice up my routine a little bit, still has caffeine in it, so giving me my caffeine fix, but I got so sick of matcha, now I can't even look at matcha without wanting to throw up
Starting point is 00:42:21 because I'm like so sick of it. Somebody said, are you burned out of for tonight yet? I've been playing a lot of for tonight, y'all. A lot of fucking for tonight. I'm getting actually really good. I literally get like in the beginning, I could not play. Like I literally couldn't do it. I was like trying to play because I was like bored, but I was so bad.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Like I literally Would just hide the entire game and then I would die immediately the second I would get out of my hiding spot like it was so bad But now I'm getting hella good so whatever, but I'm getting a little bit burnt out from for night because I feel like I Just have my for and I routine now like I play the a very similar Strategy every single game and like I'm just getting kind of bored of it. So I might just start playing with a different strategy, you know. But I don't want to be bored of Fortnite because it's like the only thing that passes time quickly right now. And that's why I'm playing it so much is because it like makes
Starting point is 00:43:19 four hours disappear. It was just kind of nice during this time because I kind of, as probably you do as well, I want this whole situation to be over. So anything that passes time quickly, I'm doing, er, sorry, I'm like so exhausted right now because I had my panic attack at like probably 2am. And then I went to bed, actually it was maybe at midnight and then I went to bed at around four, 3.34 and then I woke up at around nine am. So that's like five hours of sleep
Starting point is 00:43:59 and then the night before that, I got four hours of sleep. So I'm like not getting a lot of sleep right now but I feel like my sleep schedule has been kind of messed up and like I can't go to bed early, but I also can't sleep in. So I'm just like exhausted all the time, which sucks. So I need to work on that.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I think it's because, oh my God, my mom's on the phone. Do I yell at her and tell her to stop? Cause she's making sounds and it's Making my podcast audio messed up. Maybe I'll just let her talk Oh, this is a good one What do you do when you feel like you've peaked and feel like you're in constant competition with yourself to do better? Causes me anxiety and I hate the pressure of feeling like I'm worst today than I was yesterday. I totally understand this totally understand this because Totally understand this. Because this happens to me all the time.
Starting point is 00:44:50 It used to happen to me a lot more, especially because on the internet, a lot of people like to compare yourself to your self and the internet will kind of make you believe that like you're doing worse. So that's like an added, so I totally get this. I think what I've learned is that you have to remember that it's kind of up to you.
Starting point is 00:45:17 It's about your mindset. This is really about your mindset. It's about reminding yourself that that's just not how it works. You peak when you want to peak. If you start to believe that you peaked, then maybe you did peak. But if you want to peak again, you just put your fucking mind to it. That's all it takes.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And you just work harder. And you'll do it again. But you just have to work hard. But you have to remember that all it takes is working hard and continuing working hard. You can't give up. If you give up, then you did peak and that's it. If you give up, but if you didn't, then there's always room for another high point. It's never like the journey never ends until you die. In the potential,
Starting point is 00:46:07 sorry, burped, in the potential for peaking again is never gone unless you give up or you die. That's it. And so keep that in mind. You fucking got this. All of you guys got this. Whatever you guys are going through right now, I probably feel you. We're in this together. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of shit that's come with this quarantine that are really interesting to watch. And like, you know, like I'm talking about mentally
Starting point is 00:46:36 within myself. Like there's just been a lot of like, effects that it has had on me. And probably you guys as well that have been really interesting to watch. And really interesting to go through once you kind of go through it then you get to look back and be like wow that was really interesting that wouldn't have happened otherwise like my panic attack last night I think was very much triggered by the fact that I don't have a lot of distractions right
Starting point is 00:47:00 now and I kind of just have to live in the moment, and I'm not used to doing that. I'm kind of used to like just having constant distractions and never having to think about what's truly going on in my mind. And I think last night I kind of freaked out because I kind of, for the first time in probably a year, I had a clear moment of realizing what my life is right now and what it means for me to exist. And I hadn't realized that or thought about that in a really long time because I've just been distracting myself for, oh my god, it's literally so loud outside of my, like the
Starting point is 00:47:41 cats are meowing, like my mom's on the phones. It's crazy. Anyway, I was, I freaked out because I think that I actually fully like understood what's going on in my life and how crazy it is and how weird it is for the first time, like in a year or more. I have not really had time to sit down and like, think about what's going on in my life
Starting point is 00:48:04 and like, what has happened to me? And it freaked me out because it was like sensory overload. It was just so many thoughts at once and I was realizing it all at once. And then I freaked out because it was like crazy. And anyway, I just, I think it might be a good thing. I feel a lot more level headed today than I did for the past year because I feel like I have a good understanding of what my life is.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Since I started YouTube and since this all started happening, I haven't had a minute to sit and actually think about what has truly happened to me and how fucking crazy it is. I just have kind of avoided thinking about it because I just think it would scare me and freak me out if I thought about it too much. And that's what happened to me last night. I found my mind like, I was talking about it with my mom and I started thinking about how crazy it was and how like, I can't even comprehend that it happened to me. And then, and then it like freaked me out and sent me down a spiral that I wouldn't have gone down otherwise, probably.
Starting point is 00:49:07 So I think that's really, but I think it's really important for me. It's helping me connect with fucking Earth in myself and the universe, I needed that, I needed that panic attack. It was awful and scary, but I got through it and I feel better on the other side. So that is that, ladies and gentlemen, I wish I had like a funny story to tell you,
Starting point is 00:49:32 but I literally don't. Oh, actually I do. I'm gonna end this off with a funny story that happened to me the other day. No, I'm not, I don't like that story. It's not entertaining, maybe I'll save it for next week. Okay, that's all for today. I really love like that story. It's not entertaining. Maybe I'll save it for next week. Okay. That's all for today. I really love you guys. I really appreciate you guys. I hope that you know that and I hope that you're having an amazing day and I hope that you're keeping it real.
Starting point is 00:49:54 We're getting through this together. We can do this. And that's it. That's all she wrote. I love you all. Peace and love. I love you all. Peace and love.

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