anything goes with emma chamberlain - life burnout

Episode Date: January 21, 2021

It’s been a rough year, and all of us to some extent are feeling a sense of burnout in our lives. Whether that be a lack of motivation to do anything, or feeling down and sad, or having no desire to... be social with anyone. Emma is going through it too, and discusses why it happens and ways we can overcome it.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good morning everybody and welcome back to anything goes I'm Emma Chamberlain your host and I have morning voice a little bit because I Just woke up like an hour ago. It's a no. It's not an am. It's not an am. My voice is not warmed up yet These are actually the first words that I've spoken yet today. So I'm glad to be sharing those moments with you. Listen, before we get into our topic today, we need to talk about the latest Netflix documentary that I watched, OK?
Starting point is 00:00:43 I did this in the last episode or the episode before, that one where I talked about Don't Fuck With Cats, which is another murder documentary, anything. I watched the documentary about the Night Stalker last night in this morning and it was so good. So see, now I have two Netflix recommendations for you guys. Don't fuck with cats and the Night Stocker documentary. Both of those amazingly interesting murder cases. I've always loved crime stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I think most people do, I would say, probably 95% of people are very fascinated by it, so I don't think I'm special. Some people hated those. Some people were like, I don't wanna know anything about that. I get that too. But considering that most people are into this stuff and I'm really into this stuff, I would really recommend these too.
Starting point is 00:01:40 I think they're really good. But I do need to talk about a few things from the Night Stocker documentary because even if you haven't watched it, like, I don't think this would be a spoiler. I feel like it's just general and an-analyzation. General, it's just general opinions about things. Okay, you'll see.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Okay, there's two things that blew my mind about this murder case. Basically, this doesn't spoil it either, but there were a bunch of murders that happened in LA and San Francisco, and they were really brutal, but they were kind of random. And like not, it wasn't like this serial killer
Starting point is 00:02:23 had a pattern, like he just kind of would go do random shit and just like In none of it made sense like he would choose an old guy one day and like a child the next which is very fucked But still you know what I'm saying actually I only killed any kids. I think he just did other bad things to them Okay, well then he choose like a young woman next, you know what I mean? It was like he had no pattern um And he killed a lot of fucking people. Like this is not a good guy we're talking about. He's sneaky, he's freaky, he's not good. But obviously they didn't know who he was for like many months. Like they just couldn't figure out who he was. And so in the documentary you don't see what he looks like until the last two episodes. And I see this guy, his mugshot. And he literally looks
Starting point is 00:03:15 like an IMG model. Like I'm not fucking with you. This dude could easily be a male runway model Easily and listen, don't get wrong. This man is not my type. Okay. I'm not as like I like He is he's a generally Good-looking guy like not what you would expect at all To be a serial killer. Like he literally has the bone structure, the height and like all of it of like a literal runway model.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Like if he was walking in the product show, I wouldn't be surprised type of thing. You see what I'm saying? If he, if I blinked and I looked around and I was at a Louis Vuitton men's show, and I saw him, I'd be like, this makes sense. What the fuck? That was like mind blowing to me.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And I don't know why it's mind blowing to me, but I guess like to me, I always feel like serial killers are people that I always feel like serial killers are people that are just like, maybe they like struggled with dating life. Like maybe just because, you know, whatever, they struggled to make friends because they were a little bit weird or eccentric or whatever, which is, you know, sad that it sometimes, but I don't know. I was like, I always assume it to be that way.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Somebody who was rejected by a society in a way and like had to go their own way. Like I feel like that tends to be the story. Like when I, you know, in the past, when I had been researching, not researching, but like watching documentaries on serial killers and like Googling stuff or even like reading like articles, like whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I've just always found that it's somebody who never had any, you know, friends never fade in stuff like that like that's normally who it is. But this dude literally had groupies of women that were like waiting outside of the courthouse when he was being convicted of his crimes, like fucking lifting up their tops and showing their boobies to him because they were like, oh my god, he's so good looking, he's so hot. Because he was even though he killed like 30 people, it didn't matter to them because he was good looking, which is like completely terrifying. But anyway, like he had no problem getting ladies,
Starting point is 00:05:53 even once he was convicted of crimes, he was getting ladies, okay. Like what happened? He probably had a lot of friends, like I don't, he just seemed like the good, big guy that would have a lot of friends. Like, I don't, he just seemed like the good guy that would have a lot of friends. I just, it was crazy. It was crazy to me.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Super interesting documentary, check it out. But I just don't understand how a serial killer could have groupies. I know it's like that with Ted Bundy too. Like Ted Bundy was a good looking guy. And even though he was like a murderer, it's so crazy how, if you're really physically attracted to somebody, you'll let them get away with virtually anything.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's like insane, like, for example, if you're in a relationship with somebody and you are like, holy fuck, my significant other is a 10 out of 10, like this is the hottest person I've ever seen in my life. They could literally cheat on you and you'll be like, it's okay, like I've been there. I've been there where I've been like, oh my God, this is like the most beautiful boy I've ever seen. And then they fuck me over and I'm like, it's totally fine. But then they turn ugly to you. That's what's crazy. Actually, over time they become ugly to you. That's what's crazy. Actually, over time, they become ugly to you. That's what's crazy about it.
Starting point is 00:07:07 It's like initial attractiveness, you know, whatever. That's one thing, but the second that they fuck up enough, they become ugly to you. Usually. It's like all the ladies that were outside of the courthouse for this night's stalker murderer that were like fangirling about him and wanted to kiss him. The second that he like tried to stab them,
Starting point is 00:07:33 they would be like, wait, never mind, fuck you. You suck, and he'd probably become ugly to them. But it's crazy the psychology of that, like how people will just let other people get away with things if they find them attractive. It's very interesting. It's like the rules are like, I don't know, it's just, I don't understand how that works, but anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Actually in the other murder case, the guy was actually like a model, he actually was a model, but like he was a failed model. Like somebody you never really got. His career never really started as a model, but he tried to be one. Also a good looking guy. That's why I'm like, why are these people? It's like, it just doesn't make sense, but whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I don't know why it's so shocking for me to like see a serial killer be like a good looking guy that could like, you know what I'm saying? Like that's another thing that's interesting. Why is that so shocking? I don't know. I don't know why that's so shocking to me. I can't explain it.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I guess it's like when I see somebody that I feel like was probably good looking as a middle schooler. Like I, for example, was not a very good looking middle schooler, okay, which is fine. But I had a really awkward phase for sure. And it was not easy, but I think most people like have that at some point in their life, whether it's in high school, middle school, whatever, there's always gonna be an awkward phase. I had an awkward phase in elementary and middle school. It kinda like was in both.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like I feel like both of these serial killers never had an awkward phase. So I'm like, why are you killing people? Like when did you get hurt? Although I think with the Night's Docker guy, he had other troubles in life that were like beyond, you know, something that being awkward in middle school or not can fix, but you know, anyway, enough of that.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Check out those documentaries, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so here's our topic for today. And I just thought of it last night because I was on the phone with my dad and I was trying to explain how I was feeling mentally to him. And we realize that there's this like really interesting thing going on in the world. And I think it's a collective thing. I think everybody's feeling it.
Starting point is 00:10:09 But I'd never been able to put a finger on like what everybody's feeling, but I think I just figured it out. I think I might have cracked the code, and I'm gonna talk about it with you guys today. So I make YouTube videos and podcasts and whatever, but let's talk about YouTube specifically. I've been making YouTube videos for three years We hasn't been three holy shit Almost four
Starting point is 00:10:38 possibly unless I'm not doing my mouth correctly three or four whatever and Sometimes I get burnt out. I lose my creativity, I lose my passion. Excuse me. I think I just breathed in a piece of cat hair. My fucking microphone has cat hair on it and so I keep inhaling it. Unaccident. But anyway, sometimes I just get burned out with YouTube.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'm not creative with it anymore. I have no ideas. I am not excited about doing it and it's not fun to me in that moment. That happens inevitably. It's happened to me probably 25 times throughout the past four years that I've been doing YouTube. And it always passes, of course,
Starting point is 00:11:31 but it does happen where I just get burnt out. And it's just weird how everything about it is like exhausting to me. It's like filming a video would be exhausting to me. Editing a video when I used to edit was like the most exhausting thing ever. You know, even like making a thumbnail for the video was so exhausting.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It was like I couldn't get myself to be excited about any part of it. And I've learned that now when I get burned out, I just stop, I take a break and I'm good. And I wait until I'm excited about it again. I wait until I get some ideas that pump me up or I wait until I just like want to be in front of a camera and I just want to talk to you guys and whatever.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Like I wait until my body's like, okay, it's time, you can do that again. And so I take a break now. I've learned to take a break when I get burnt out, and that tends to fix it. But what's really interesting is that I'm feeling this similar sensation of burnout that I do with YouTube and stuff like that in
Starting point is 00:12:47 my entire life. Like I feel like I'm not burnt out on YouTube, not burnt out on any of my hobbies. I feel like I'm fully burnt out on all areas of my life. Like I have life burn out. And it's crazy because usually I just feel burnt out in like one area. I'm like, oh fuck, I'm burnt out in my love life. I don't even want to like try with this, you know what I mean? Like I'm just like I'm single or even if maybe I'm in a relationship and I'm like, I like can't, I don't know. Like maybe it's with my love life. Although that hasn't happened to me in a long time,
Starting point is 00:13:27 but still, it does happen. Or maybe I'm burned out with YouTube, or maybe I'm burned out with my podcast, or maybe I'm burnt out with like being social, like talking to people on the phone, I just like don't wanna talk to people on the phone, I don't wanna like go get coffee with anybody, I eat like whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I am burnt out just in life in general. I feel the similar sensation of like everything is exhausting. Everything hurts to do, like everything literally physically hurts to do, it physically hurts to go to the grocery store. It physically hurts to get out of bed. It physically hurts to get dressed. It physically hurts to go to the grocery store. It physically hurts to get out of bed. It physically hurts to get dressed. It physically hurts to shower. It physically hurts to do virtually anything for me right now.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And I was talking about it with my friend Olivia and she was like, dude, I feel the same way. And I can tell, I can see it in her too. We're both on the same page. It's like, we're just burnt out with everything. My mom even is feeling the same way. I was talking to her about it. And I mean, I think we can all put a finger
Starting point is 00:14:37 on where it's stemming from. And stemming from the fact that like, things are super negative right now in general, and it has been that way for almost a year, but it almost feels like it continues to get worse, like the overall state of what's going on in the world just seems to keep getting worse and worse. But I think it feels like that,
Starting point is 00:15:04 but I don't think that, I think good times are really over our horizon. I genuinely do. I think that things are gonna get a lot better very soon with everything, especially in the United States. I can't speak for everywhere else, but I know the United States just kind of feels
Starting point is 00:15:21 like a little bit of a nightmare, and it has for like a year, but I think right now it's still bad and it's almost like how is this not better yet? How are things not like good? Alrighty, like how have we been like in this limbo for almost a year now? How is it not over yet?
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Starting point is 00:17:33 This whole feeling of burnout within my whole life is crazy because not to be sad or weird, I'm not even sad about this or depressed depressed about it, I mean a little bit. Definitely, like I'm not depressed about it. I just feel a little bit depressed in general, but, and maybe that's what it is. Maybe I just feel depressed, but it feels different because I don't feel like when I'm depressed, I tend to like, it's a little bit more extreme.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's a little bit more extreme. Whereas this just feels like burnout. It doesn't feel like depression to me. I just feel burnout because I'm not necessarily super sad. I'm just like literally empty. But I feel like when I'm depressed, I'm like empty and sad. But right now I'm usually just empty and then occasionally sad. But then also occasionally happy too.
Starting point is 00:18:32 It's not like, so I don't know. I don't know what this necessarily is. But I really struggle to find joy in anything right now. Like I don't feel extremely passionate about anything. For example, I recently started playing drums. I recently started cooking, and I've been doing those things still. But for some reason, I get no joy from it anymore. It's like within the past week, I just am so burnt out with life
Starting point is 00:19:02 that nothing literally makes me feel excited. Like I feel like I've used every hobby that I have as a distraction so much to a point where I'm now numb to the excitement about it. It's like really weird. It used to be like, oh, I learn a new drum beat and I like would literally feel like a rush of serotonin throughout my body, but now I just like don't feel anything. I don't care about anything right now. And the reason why I'm talking about this is not to be like, guys, I feel like shit. Listen to me. It's because I know that other people are probably feeling this way. It's a really terrifying feeling when no matter what you do, you feel kind of just indifferent about everything.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Super numb, super just like, kind of empty in a way. I know I'm not the only one feeling like this. I know so many of you are probably feeling the same way. It's like this feeling of like, we've just been doing the same thing over and over again. And I thought that I hit a point where I couldn't do it anymore, probably 15 times, but right now I've never felt it like this before, where I'm just like, I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Like nothing sounds appealing to me. Cooking not appealing to me. Playing drums not appealing to me. If somebody told me I could go to Hawaii right now, I wouldn't even want to go. Like I'm at a point where I'm like I don't even, like I don't want to do anything. At all, I don't want to move. I just want to lay in bed. And that's it. I want to lay on the couch with the lights off and watch murder documentaries, and that's it. That's all I want to do right now. And I don't want to shower.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And fuck you if you want to make fun of me for that. Okay. Whatever. I don't want to shower. I don't want to do my chores. My house is turning into a mess because I literally can't clean up after myself. It's just...
Starting point is 00:21:18 Here we are. I don't know. I think a huge issue with it is that I'm frustrated because I feel like I'm doing everything right, but yet nothing is making me feel fulfilled or like satisfied. Like, I have the hobbies. Okay, I finally fucking have hobbies. But now even that's not helping. I have really good people in my life.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I love them all so much, still not helping. Like, that's why I'm stumped here. And I think that's the scary part. I don't have advice right now, because I've taken every piece of advice that I have for moments like this and I've done it yet I still feel nothing and this could literally be a chemical imbalance in my brain.
Starting point is 00:22:13 I could fully be having a little depressive episode and not even really be knowing it because I haven't had like some sort of outbreak. Like I feel like whenever I'm having a depressive episode I tend to have like an outburst if you will, like where I just explode and I haven't had that and I haven't actually, I did have that. Wait, I did have that a few days ago. So maybe I'm just feeling depressed right now. That could be it. But I would say that probably a lot of us are feeling depressed
Starting point is 00:22:43 right now because for me when I get depressed, it's not all the time. It is all the time, but it's like, I have really good moments with it where I'm like fine. Like I feel great. I can feel great for months even. But then it always comes back, but like I, it mine is very much on and off. It's not a constant, constant thing. I feel like I can get out of it. I can train myself to get out of it. And I've done it hundreds of times. But is that what this is? Or is this just literally an effect of everything that we're going through as a planet right now? And it's like beyond depression. It's like something that everybody's feeling right now. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:29 But regardless, I think that a lot of us are gonna be experiencing this one way or another. And I just wanna let you know that you're not alone. I am so frustrated feeling like I'm doing everything right and it's just not working. It's just not helping. Another interesting thing is I feel like I've felt every emotion and done every action
Starting point is 00:23:52 that I am capable of. Does that make sense? I feel like I've talked about everything. I feel like I've thought about everything. I feel like I've done everything. I feel like what is there left to do? I feel like I've done everything. I feel like, what is there left to do? I feel like I've done everything. Does that make sense?
Starting point is 00:24:10 I feel like I'm just a broken record at this point. I've already talked about every conversation point that I literally have in my head. I've already like, done everything and talked about everything. Literally having my head. I've already like... Done everything and talked about everything. I don't feel like I have anything new to offer. Like if I'm in a conversation with somebody, I don't have anything new to say.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I've never been one to be quiet. And like, not engage in conversation, but I feel like more than ever I'm doing that because I just haven't experienced anything new, haven't thought about anything new. I've already thought about and done everything, bazillions of times at this point. There's no new experiences for me to talk about.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So I'm almost starting to lose my social skills in a way. And I wrote this down in my notes. I said, a lack of experience is making my brain atrophy. Literally, like I feel like my brain, it's like, and I'll use a metaphor here to help explain that. Let's say you get a cast on your hand because you broke your wrist, okay? And the muscle in your hand starts to get super weak and it starts to atrophy because it's not being used as in a cast. That's how I feel with my brain. I'm constantly on autopilot
Starting point is 00:25:47 because I'm by myself quite a lot, which means immediate autopilot when I'm by myself. But also, I'm not having really any social stimulation at all. I mean, and when I do, I literally don't know how to act. And I've never had this problem, but I get severe anxiety in a setting above four people now, and that has never happened to me before.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Like for example, I literally went to the grocery store the other day, and I have not gone to the grocery store in a long time because I order my groceries online. That's a really good hack. Amazon Prime, if you have Amazon Prime, you can order whole foods to your house and usually you can find a free delivery option, which is what I do. So it's almost like I fucking didn't even, it's like I might as well have gone to the grocery store because it's free delivery. So what the fuck, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Anyway, I went to the grocery store the other day in person because I was like, you know what, like I should get out. And I was so beyond anxious. It was so weird. I like felt like everybody in the grocery store was looking at me, which is just like stupid. I also was pushing around a cart and I kept feeling like my cart was getting in everybody's way and I like, you know when you parked your cart somewhere so
Starting point is 00:27:19 that you can go walk around that area of the grocery store and then you bring stuff back to your cart, I kept getting anxious about where I was leaving my cart and I was like, is this gonna get in somebody's way and is somebody gonna get mad at me? Like whatever I was overthinking the fucking grocery store. What the fuck? You know? Also when I was like checking out I felt like literally talking to this stranger was like making me uncomfortable. Like I was uncomfortable talking to the cashier. Like I felt a slight discomfort in my body and I've never had that problem before.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Another thing that I've noticed about being social is that anytime I have any kind of social interaction, it can be bigger, small. I'm anxious afterwards too. Like I feel like I fucked up or I did something weird and I'm replaying in my head 50 times more than I ever have before because I've always been somebody that struggles with this where I will be social and then like afterwards I just am overthinking everything I did or said.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But I feel like I actually had gotten a lot better at that and just a lot more confident in myself and my social skills and all of that. But recently, back to square one. I like, back to square one, but also worse. Sorry. My ears are itchy because I have allergies. And I don't know how to itch that deep inside of my ear. So I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:28:46 I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm just uncomfortable. I'm feel uncomfortable around other people. Like, being around other people is so exhausting to me. I would just so much rather not do it. I like, but it's like inevitable. Sometimes you are gonna have to be around people. There are moments where I need to be around people, you know? Safely, of course, but like, sometimes there are moments
Starting point is 00:29:23 when you know, you have to be around people. It's part of life. Sometimes you have to. And even during COVID, like even during COVID, there are still moments where, you know, if I go to the grocery store or like, you know, there's something work related that, you know, I need, like whatever, whatever it may be, there's sometimes I have to be around people in person. And it just sucks.
Starting point is 00:29:45 But even on the phone is bad too though. Like I've been, so many people have been facetiming me recently, because they feel like everybody's just bored again. And it's like, oh, let's just talk on the phone. No, I decline every single call that I receive. And I feel bad, but I just can't do it. Because I'm gonna overthink the conversation
Starting point is 00:30:03 I had with that person. I'm going to, but I'm also overthink the conversation I had with that person. I'm going to. But I'm also just going to be physically uncomfortable during the conversation. So what's the point? If I'm uncomfortable by that right now, and I just don't have the energy to do it, then I'm just not going to fucking do it. And I know I'm hurt. I know I'm burning bridges right now by doing this, but I just can't help it. Listen, I'm talking about this strictly for the purpose
Starting point is 00:30:32 of someone relating. I really, really hope that if any of you are feeling like this, just know I have a feeling that this is something that is just a product of what we're all going through. And it's going to pass. We're all going to get our social skills back. Life is going to become a lot more fun at some point. It has to. And that's just that. This episode is brought to you by LiquidIV. You might think that hydration is only necessary after intense crazy activities like working
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Starting point is 00:33:43 pour it into a water bottle with lukewarm water and chug it. So not sure what that says about me. Grab your liquid IV in bulk nationwide at Costco or you can get 20% off when you go to liquid IV.com and use code anything at checkout. That's 20% off anything when you shop better hydration today using promo code anything at liquid IV dot com But another interesting thing that I was thinking about this is kind of off topic. We're kind of moving on a little bit But I saw something on Twitter that was like This time right now is like the roaring 20s
Starting point is 00:34:18 In the roaring 20s. What were the roaring 20s roaring 20s? It was in the 1920s It was a decade of economic growth and widespread prosperity driven by recovering from wartime devastation in deferred spending, a boom in construction, rapid growth of consumer goods, such as automobiles and electricity in North America and Europe. So basically the roaring 20s was a time when everything got really fun after a
Starting point is 00:34:50 time of devastation. Y'all, I'm so down for this. It's only 2021. We still got time to have roaring 20s. And listen, history always repeats itself. So I think we have something. If history truly repeats itself, I think we're going to be in for a treat very soon. I also just remember that I used the word atrophy earlier and I really want to make sure I use that right. Definition of atrophy. As a verbit means a body tissue or an organ waste away, typically due to the degeneration
Starting point is 00:35:27 of cells. Okay, that wasn't bad. That maybe wasn't the perfect word for it, but definitely not the worst word for it. Anyway. Ah! Manifesting the roaring 20s. That's what I'm manifesting for all of us. This is gonna pass.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We're all gonna be okay. The thing is, there's nothing to worry about. And what I know that like what I'm saying about myself, if somebody like maybe isn't, if somebody maybe isn't feeling this way right now, and they're listening to this they might be like, wait, this is like fucking depressing, Emma, like what the hell? Yes, but also I know it's gonna pass for me and for everybody else that's feeling this
Starting point is 00:36:17 way and it's just going to be okay. It is. It just sucks right now and it sucks feeling so like empty about shit. It sucks, but we're gonna get through it and we're gonna get our social skills back and we're gonna enjoy being around other people. Well actually I don't know. I might be permanently in introvert now, but actually I don't think I'm an introvert. I don't even know anymore. I'm confused because I guess it's like,
Starting point is 00:36:50 there's no way to test it out and really find out whether or not I'm like fully in introvert or an extrovert because it's like I don't really have a choice but to be an introvert right now. But I think that once things start getting back to normal, our brains are gonna relearn and re-enjoy social shit. And we'll get back to where we were before. It will happen, I believe it.
Starting point is 00:37:15 It might not be the same as it was before. It never will be, but it's going to be close enough. One more thing I want to say before we get into questions today is that although I just talked about this for 20, 30 minutes and I don't have a solution that doesn't mean that it's not going to pass. I think that this is not something that has a solution. I think the best thing that you can do is push through, just push through it.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Because even though normally my advice would be, get out of the house, like go for a walk, go for a run, pick up a hobby, I would normally say that. But right now, I'm even struggling with doing those things and feeling satisfied after. Like, that's not even helping me right now. So I don't know. But I think that what you have to try to do is just keep going. Like, going for jogs really helps me. Most of the time, recently it hasn't been helping as much, but I'm still doing it. Because there's a chance that one day it's gonna help. And sometimes it does help a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Sometimes playing drums does help a little bit, but I feel very numb towards all of it, but it doesn't matter. I'm gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep trying, and I know that it's gonna pass. It's like riding it out. It's like if you're swimming in the ocean and a big wave crashes on top of you
Starting point is 00:38:52 and it kind of tumbles you a little bit and you're kind of stuck under the wave for a second, like being pinned down. I don't know if that's ever happened to anybody else but it has happened to me. When like literally a wave just like fucking engulfs you and you're stuck under the wave for a second and it's kind of terrifying,
Starting point is 00:39:11 but the best thing that you can do is just stay calm and wait for the wave to go over your head and then you just pop up and you're fine. I've been fucked up by some waves though. I've been fucked up to her, I got like back flipped under the water, like pants in top both fall off type of thing. It happens, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:39:31 You get up once the wave passes over your head and you're good. And then the next wave that comes, you might write it all the way into the shore. God only knows. You know what I'm saying? It might be the best way that you've ever experienced and it was so fun and you got to ride it and have fun.
Starting point is 00:39:49 See what I'm saying? Co-western time, let's see what you guys are thinking about. Somebody said, I know you've never had a one year anniversary with somebody, but what are your general opinions on anniversaries? I think anniversaries are really cool because I think, you know, I mean, obviously, time is kind of a man-made, is it a man-made concept? I guess it is a man-made concept, but I think it's just cool to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:40:26 a full year, a full journey around the sun with somebody because it forces you to reflect on like, wow, okay, look at everything we've been through, you know? We've grown so much as a couple, we've been through so much shit together. And it's like a fun time to like appreciate what you've been together. I don't think that it's corny, I don't think it's stupid. I think it's a reminder of all the shit that you've been through together and all the good times, hard times, all of that. And it's just like a time to appreciate
Starting point is 00:41:03 what you and that other person have built. And I think that's a really beautiful thing, not that I really know much about it because I never had one, but, well, I mean, I guess in anniversary could also be like a month, but I feel like anniversaries are more like years. Like six months, I think actually six months,
Starting point is 00:41:21 you can do, I don't even think, no, actually I have had a six month anniversary, definitely, but I have not had a year. But it's like, what do you do on a six month anniversary? It's like, okay, you're not gonna get the other person a gift, like I feel like it's too soon. It's like, you haven't been together long enough to be like, okay, fuck, like this is like a big anniversary. Well, I feel like a six month anniversary,
Starting point is 00:41:46 you're like, let's go to dinner, I love you so much. Oh my God, I can't believe we did that. And we managed to, I can't believe we're still here. Wow, awesome. And then like a year, you're like, okay, I'm gonna get you a gift. And we're really gonna celebrate, because we really, we had the whole mother fucking journey around the side together.
Starting point is 00:42:04 This is so special. I think anniversaries are really good to celebrate, especially like year long ones. But I saw this thing on TikTok about how like, this couple celebrates every month. I'm like, guys, you can only go to dinner and like watch a movie so many times. Once a month, You can only go to dinner and watch a movie so many times.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Once a month, that seems a little much to me, but I mean, hey, to ease their own and I do not judge. Somebody said, what do you think is the best way to meet a significant other? For example, through dating at mutual friends, et cetera. I would say my favorite way is mutual friends because they've already been vetted. Do you know what I mean? Is that the right word? I have to fucking ask Siri again. Definition of vetted. As an noun it means a veterinary surgeon. Do you want to hear the remaining one? No. Um,
Starting point is 00:43:01 wait, she took away the definition. Definition-avetted verb. Yes. Okay, Emma with the new vocab words. Ch. Ho. Um. Yeah, like when you meet somebody through a mutual friend, they've already been vetted. You know them. Like you don't maybe know them closely,
Starting point is 00:43:35 but it's like they're in your circle. Like you, if you trust your friend and they trust this person, then they're probably not too fucking bad. Whereas if you just meet somebody blindly on the internet or some shit, you're really like anything could happen. They could be a serial killer,
Starting point is 00:43:54 they could be a fucking narcissist, like you don't know anything about their personality. And so that's why I prefer meeting through mutual friends, but also sometimes like you meet somebody online and it just works. You could also meet somebody online that is a mutual friend. That's another option. But the more vetted they are, the better. It's just like playing it safe.
Starting point is 00:44:18 You know that they're not going to kill you. If you ever meet somebody online, make sure to be in a public place for the first time because that shit is scary. Somebody said last episode you had trouble adjusting to your new hair and I just wanted to say that I love it. Thank you so much. I would like to report that I do like my new hair now. I hated it for the first week but it has grown on me and now I like it.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And that should be a reminder that if you ever get a haircut and you hate it, you'll probably and now I like it. And that should be a reminder that if you ever get a haircut and you hate it, you'll probably like it a week later. And if you don't like it a week later, it'll grow out. So just remember that. But I do like it now, I'm having fun with it. Somebody said, how do you manage to lower your screen time? I've been wanting to do it, but it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:45:01 I love you so much. I would say, well, there's a few ways. I think number one would be to get a hobby. I mean, that's kind of like what helps me is like if I get all sucked into cooking, if I feel like I've been on my phone for too long, I will put that shit down and I'll cook something, bake something. That helps a lot. Because it's like knowing, okay, I've been doing this for too long, I need to stop. But then having something to go do, that really helps. Watching documentaries has helped me get off my phone because even though I'm still
Starting point is 00:45:39 staring at a screen, it's different because I'm not engaging in the matrix of social media, which I think is the main bad thing for my brain. Like watching an interesting documentary, it is not harmful to me, I don't think. It's educational and it makes me feel good after because I'm like, damn, like I know more about this or that, like whatever, that really helps. Obviously like playing drums or something really helps,
Starting point is 00:46:07 but also like setting a timer. If you're like, okay, I know I've been on my phone for too long. I'm gonna give myself another 15 minutes and then I'm done and then I have to go do something else. Literally going on your phone and setting a 15 minute timer. That really helps and I've done that before and it does actually help. Because then the sound goes off and you're like,
Starting point is 00:46:25 fuck, I know I need to go do something else. And I do. Next, somebody said, what do you think are fun things to do when hanging out with a significant other? Well, I think that when you're dating somebody, it's so important to do fun things together. I do because I think that it's really easy when you're in a relationship to just get really comfortable
Starting point is 00:46:47 and just wanna lay on each other's couches all the time and watch TV, but it's really nice to go out and go do something together. I love going, getting food with significant other. I think that's like the best thing you could possibly do. Another thing is you could go sit somewhere in the car or in nature and talk about something. Talk about anything. Rocks, drama, whatever. Going and like sitting in nature somewhere is so nice. Like at the beach even, like I just like hanging out at the beach or like hanging out on like a mountain somewhere that like has a nice view, you know, and just like talking about random shit.
Starting point is 00:47:33 That's fun. Easy going. You could also go do some sort of gimmicky activity. And I don't, I'm not using gimmicky in a negative way. Like you could go to fucking Disneyland, not right now though, but you could go to Disneyland, you could go to a fucking escape room. I don't personally like escape rooms because I'm not intelligent enough for them. Either that or I just don't have enough patience,
Starting point is 00:47:58 but like you could go to stuff like that. Emphasis on doing things together instead of just laying at home all day together because here's the thing. I'll lay in bed all day if I don't have something to get me out of bed. Use your significant other as a reason to get out of bed and go do something fun. Next somebody said, what are your thoughts on people who date for publicity or in a fake relationship? Do you think that you would ever do that? I personally would never do that, no. But at the same time, as much as I would never do it,
Starting point is 00:48:30 and I just think that that's such like a odd thing to do, I also understand that, you know, do what you gotta do to get your bag in a way, you know? Who am I to judge? You know, someone else doing that. Who am I to judge? Someone else doing that. Who am I to judge? You know what I mean? It's not harming me. If somebody wants to fake their relationship for money. I mean, do what you got to do, I guess? But I just feel like for me, my whole kind of feelings about being on the internet is that I just want to be as real as possible. Obviously, I'm not going to share everything about my life, but I still want to be as real as possible. Like, I would never fake something for the internet
Starting point is 00:49:27 because I just don't believe in that. I just don't feel like that's the message I want to spread or like that doesn't, like, I think that the thing about being on the internet is I only want to put stuff out there that is going to make somebody feel good. Or whether it's just because they feel like they have a friend in the room when they're listening to the podcast,
Starting point is 00:49:47 that's why I personally listen to podcasts. It feels like I have a friend in the room. Or it's like a distraction for a little bit or maybe something I said could make somebody feel understood whatever it may be, that's my goal. So I'm never gonna do some added shit like fake a relationship because that doesn't benefit anybody, doesn't help anybody. Who does that help?
Starting point is 00:50:13 No one. You see what I'm saying? There's no positive impact from faking a relationship. So then what's the point? That's how I look at it. But also like no hate or judgment to anybody who does that. Do what you gotta do, okay? Somebody said, if you were to keep one pair of shoes only what would it be?
Starting point is 00:50:34 Right now it would be my platform, ankle, Doc Martens, the ones that are more of a loafer, not the high top Doc Martens, but the low top Doc Martens that are more of a loafer, not the high top dog marns, but the low top dog marns that are platform. They're unbelievable. They are such a staple. They work with any pants, and I wear them all the time and abuse them. I literally wear them way too much, but they're the perfect shoe. I mean, a close second would probably have to be, literally my fuzzy Birken socks, but those are like not cute. So, they're not ugly, but they're not,
Starting point is 00:51:09 they're not, they don't work with everything. Somebody said, do you ever feel like you're missing out on foods that have meat? If you guys don't know, I'm a vegetarian. I don't, because I just don't, I never ate meat, I was born a vegetarian, I was raised a vegetarian, I've like never consistently ate meat at any point born a vegetarian. I was raised a vegetarian.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I've never consistently ate meat at any point in my life. I did have a phase there when I was an athlete where I would eat bacon before I had competitions because it would literally keep me full all day. I don't know if I've ever talked about that before, but yeah, right before competitions, I would eat bacon and I would literally never get tired. It has so much fat in it and shit like that.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And it's a high calorie but low volume food. So you can eat four pieces of it and get a lot of energy to burn. And I probably could have done something else. I probably didn't need to eat meat. I probably could have eaten something else, but for some reason that just was my weird tradition, but primarily I've been vegetarian my whole life.
Starting point is 00:52:21 And I don't feel like I'm missing out because there's literally so many yummy vegetarian and vegan foods. Like you can literally go to any restaurant in LA and find a yummy vegan option. So it's like, I don't feel like I'm missing anything or vegetarian. I'm not vegan, but I am vegetarian.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So anyway, this is like the time to be a vegan or vegetarian because there's so many yummy meat alternatives right now. Like literally, this is burger place now like called Monty's and they make vegan burgers. They taste like probably better than a real burger. I tried a burger one time and I thought it was so gross. This like vegan burger, so good. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's like the perfect time because there's so many alternative options. So I don't feel like I miss out now. And if you wanna become a vegetarian, send it or vegan, whatever. Somebody said top fears, I feel like you're scared of nothing. That's crazy. I am scared of a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Well, I do have a literal phobia of caterpillars. So, like, I just like have a phobia of them and I don't understand why, but they really freak me out and I, like, that's the only thing that will make me like scream and run away. I'm not like that with anything else. I mean, if there's like a spider crawling on me, I'm gonna freak out, but like, if I see a spider
Starting point is 00:53:44 from across the room, I'm not gonna freak out, but like, if I see a spider from across the room, I'm not gonna freak out. I can't even look at a caterpillar without just feeling immense fear. And I don't know why, it's so weird, but I genuinely have a phobia of it. And so that's not good. But I'm also afraid of people manipulating me
Starting point is 00:54:00 and like tricking me into thinking that they care about me when they don't. That's a huge fear of mine. I also constantly have a fear of being watched. I constantly feel like I'm being watched or filmed or listened to. I feel like I'm constantly being wiretapped or something or somebody has a hidden camera in my home. Or they're watching me through a window like I constantly am freaked out about that. That's a huge fear of mine.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I'm very scared of being like followed or spied on. That's a big one. And I'm also scared of people that I care about dying. I just knocked on wood. Somebody said before you moved to LA, did you have higher low expectations for L.A.? When I moved L.A. I didn't really have any expectations. I mean, I feel like I just didn't know what to expect really and it also all happened so fast. So I didn't really have expectations. But I will tell you that I didn't expect L.A. to be this disgusting. I'll explain.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I didn't expect LA to be this disgusting. I'll explain. The literal city of LA is so dirty. Like it is so dirty. The other day I was driving home from a flea market. And it was kind of far away and I normally don't go out of town this far, but I was like, you know what, I need to get out of the house. This flea market is open.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'm gonna go check it out, whatever. And I was driving home in an area that I normally don't drive home through. And there was trash everywhere. There were mattresses, couches, whatever, everywhere. And I was like, this is just insane. And the thing is, it's like that everywhere. This area was a lot worse. It was like, buy a freeway exit.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And there was just like a lot of free space. So there was like a lot of room for trash to build up, but it was just crazy. But even in the area that I live, it's like there's just trash, like mounds of trash. I'm not just talking about some litter on the ground. I'm talking about piles of trash and furniture and clothes and weird, it's insane and it's so sad
Starting point is 00:56:27 because you know LA has such a cool energy to it. If you want to look at it, I mean sometimes it does suck but like LA can be a really cool vibe you know what I mean but it's just getting dirtier and dirtier every day and it's just crazy. And that's been kind of a bummer. It's kind of a bummer to be in that type of environment where it's just like really dirty, but I don't know how to fix that. Like I don't know what the solution is to that problem.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I have no idea I am only a child, but it's really sad how much dirtier it's gotten. I don't know. Like, it's really sad how much like dirtier it's gotten. I don't know. Everybody just recycle, I guess. I don't know, I don't know what the solution is to this. I should do research on this because I genuinely don't know why this is happening in L.A. And I might do some research on this today
Starting point is 00:57:22 because I'm really curious about like, what is the root of the problem and like what can we do to help? I guess, like I don't know. Somebody said, do you consider yourself a jealous person? Yes and no, I tend to be pretty good throughout my life. I've always been pretty good.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Actually, I've gotten jealous as a kid, like in middle school and high school for sure. But now, in the current present moment, I don't really consider myself to be too jealous or even competitive. Like, I'm usually on everybody's team. I'm kind of just like, fuck it, like whatever. Definitely not really jealous with friends.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I just don't like being competitive with other girls. I just like to be on the same team. It makes life a lot more fun. But when I'm in a relationship, actually in the past, I was never jealous in relationships. But if sometimes when you find the right guy, it makes you get weird. You're like, wait, why am I like, why would I get mad if literally anybody looked at him? Or at least I'm talking for myself. Like, I almost feel like, if you, like, the only area that I've been jealous in in the past two years probably is,
Starting point is 00:58:43 within a relationship. It's not even like jealous, but it's like almost more like territorial maybe. So maybe that's not jealousy. Literally it's like this weird thing where I just feel territorial. I'm like, if any girl looks at him, I will be so mad. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:00 I don't know why that is, but I never used to be like that, but I think it's like, maybe that's a product of like, I don't know why that is, but I never used to be like that, but I think it's like, maybe that's a product of like, I don't know what that's a product of, because it might be that that really means that you actually care. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:59:15 Because I've never felt like that. That's not something that I felt like in all relationships. In fact, usually I don't care. I'm like, okay, but randomly, now I feel like over time, I've grown into my territorialness within relationships. I don't know what that means. But not in a toxic way.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It's not in a toxic way. It's always in a, okay, I love this person so much and I want them to be only for me. So that's just what my brain feels, but it's also not like I'm like, you can never be, if you are in the grocery store and you see a woman, you must go out of the store. Like it's not like that. Like I am not territorial or jealous or weird in any way. Like actively, it's more just like deep down in the back of my head. I'm like, uh, yeah. Nobody's allowed to get near them. But I think that's also normal,
Starting point is 01:00:10 but I also never felt like that before. So, but overall, on a scale of one to 10, jealousy wise, 10 being very jealous, I would say I'm probably at like a three, in general. Somebody said if you could go into the future, would you go? No, I don't like that. I don't like anything like that. I would never travel back to the past. I would never travel to the future. I would never want to read anybody's mind. I don't want any kind of like super power.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I've never craved that. I just know. I don't ever want to fuck up with anything. I fuck up on it. Like, I don't want anything to get fucked up. Like, I like just going with the flow and letting it exist. I, in letting things happen as they do. I would never want to know what happens next. Because then it might affect how I do something now. So no.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Somebody said, what is your love language and how does your love language mesh with other people's love languages? I think my love language, what is your love language and how does your love language mesh with other people's love languages? I think my love language, what is my love language? Okay, there's five, so there's acts of service, quality time, receiving gifts, physical touch, and words of affirmation. Weirdly, I used to be words of affirmation and quality time, but weirdly, I feel like
Starting point is 01:01:31 my love language has actually... Okay, well, I have two different kinds of love languages. With relationships, like romantic relationships, I think mine are words of affirmation and physical touch, but within like friendships and other relationships like that, I think it would probably be words of affirmation and quality time. It's actually a really interesting test.
Starting point is 01:01:59 If you haven't taken it, you should. It tells you how, like what you need to feel loved by others. Like for example, in a relationship, I like need to be like hugged a lot. I need that for some reason. Or in a relationship, I need somebody to like encourage me and like remind me that they love me like I need that a lot as well. Whereas in a friendship I need like conversations and one-on-one time. And also words of affirmation which would be like reminding me that they care about me.
Starting point is 01:02:46 But like see, I don't give a fuck about physical touch and a friendship. I actually prefer it to not happen. I prefer to not be touched by majority of people. I also don't care about receiving gifts. Like I don't care about that. That doesn't make me feel loved at all. Or acts of service with somebody helping me out with something.
Starting point is 01:03:04 That's nice and I love that and I appreciate that beyond belief, but like that doesn't make me feel loved though. So it's super interesting. Take the test. It's very, very fun. But anyway, that's it for today's episode. Thank you guys for hanging out with me. I love you all so much.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Appreciate you all so much. And I really hope that you're doing okay. And I'm here for you. We're gonna get through all of this together. I know we're also sick of this burnout feeling, but it's gonna pass and everything's gonna be okay. And if you're listening to this and I haven't responded to your texts or calls in two months,
Starting point is 01:03:42 it's not personal, but also don't expect to call any time soon, because I really just can't do it. Anyway, don't forget to review us on Apple Podcasts. If you like the podcast, give us a five stars. And it helps me stay in the loop about if you guys are liking it or hating it, whatever. Hopefully you're liking it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Also, subscribe on Spotify. about if you guys are liking it or hating it, whatever. Hopefully you're liking it, I don't know. Also, subscribe on Spotify, anywhere else you listen to your podcasts. Also, follow us on Twitter at AG Podcast. I ask for questions on there, so if you guys want to ask your questions and stuff like that, there is that. And I love you all so much again.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I'm saying it again, and have an amazing rest of your day, or at least as amazing as we can make it for human. I love you guys. And good night. I'm saying it again and have an amazing rest of your day or at least as amazing as we can make it for human. I love you guys And good night

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