anything goes with emma chamberlain - the fashion olympics, a talk with jared ellner [video]

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

[video available on spotify] so let me set the scene for you, it’s two days until the met gala. i’m sitting in my new york city hotel room with my stylist and best friend jared ellner. today, we��re going to talk about my met gala look, and what the gala experience is like for us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

So let me set the scene for you right now. Well, not for me. No, no, you're here. Yeah. Okay, so we're two days out from the Met Gala. We're sitting on the couch in the hotel room and there's no blankets. So we're using a robe as a blanket over our little laps.

And I'm here with Jared, who is my stylist and my best friend. You're like, I'm not your, you're not my best friend. Speak for yourself. No, you're my best friend, you're like, I'm not your, you're not my best friend. Speak for yourself. No, you're my best friend. Really? Yes. Well, you can't, I mean, now you have to say that.

Who else is my best friend? Okay, Drew. Yeah. How are you feeling? I feel good. I'm feeling great on this couch, loving this hotel room. It is a great hotel room. Generally, I feel good.

I feel like it's a crazy weekend leading up to it, but I feel calm this year. You feel calm? Okay, that's what I was gonna ask. Do you feel calm this year? I feel calm this year because I feel like we're quite locked in. Like normally, maybe we're jumping into this too quick, but normally every other year we're doing like first fittings this weekend, like first fittings happen sometimes the weekend of, and we have had much more time this year, so I feel good. How do you feel? I mean, I feel so good.

It's true that we have had this super extended Met experience this year, because literally right after the Met last year, you're like, okay, so I'm thinking about Met next year. I'm like, Jared, what if they don't even invite me? And you're like, it's okay, we'll have a dress, I'll thinking about Met next year. I'm like Jared, why don't they not even invite me? And you're like, it's okay, we'll have a dress, I'll give it to someone else. No, I'm kidding.

But we did our first fitting like fucking two months ago. Like we are so prepared. I mean, I've been hearing stories about people doing their first fitting tomorrow, Sunday, before the Met. So we're just chill. But that's normal. So we're just chill. But that's normal. Lots of people do that. We're being like, kind of weird about this.

I think- We take it really seriously. We take it too seriously. Definitely. It's cringe and weird. It's embarrassing for sure. And we can't tell anyone about it. No, but you also have four other people

that you're styling at the same time. This year there are multiple people, which is different too. Usually I've had you or one other person, but now there's some more people. So we just have to get everybody ready to go. How are you managing that? I'm managing it well. I mean, everybody is like, they're all lovely people. No one's a diva, no one's difficult.

Good! No one's a diva. No one's difficult. Good. Everyone's very kind. So everyone's like trusting and Everyone feels good. I feel good this year. It's so weird to talk about the Met now and then have this episode come out It's like a time capsule. This episode is gonna come out after the Met It is nice to be able to talk openly about it because you even like who you're wearing and what it's like because it's been so Seek it's so sneaky This episode is brought to you by secret even like who you're wearing and what it's like. Because for some reason. It's been so, it's so sneaky. This episode is brought to you by Secret. Secret deodorant gives you 72 hours

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Um, the most chaotic. Maybe the first one. First one, I would say it was chaotic just because neither of us knew what was going on. Year one was really stressful because it was just all so new, but it was also exciting and weirdly less intimidating because we didn't know... How big it was. Yeah, it's almost like you know it's a big deal in fashion and whatever, but until you go and do it, you don't realize why everyone takes it so seriously.

I think it's just because it's so visible. Yeah, well also, you're having to do so much more mental work than anybody else going because you have to look amazing. Like, I think that was your first red carpet. Honestly? Genuinely. Wait. I don't know if there was a red carpet before the Met.

I wasn't involved. Well, I there was a red carpet before the Met. I wasn't involved. Well, I never did a red carpet without you. Your first red carpet was the Met, Galladine. That is so... How did I... Well, it was also like, I didn't know how to pose. Yeah. I like didn't know what I was doing.

It worked though. I was totally fine. I mean, there were definitely some awkward poses happening. I actually don't think you had any awkward poses. Now we like practice though. It was totally fine. I mean, there were definitely some awkward poses happening. I actually don't think you had any awkward poses that year. Now we like practice though. Yeah, but you did very well. And that was kind of an awkward dress. It had like this like side-tail situation.

Yeah, it was hard to manage. You did great. But in theory, it was a simple look. Like the first year, it was like just my natural hair blown out. Pretty simple makeup. Yeah. A dress that honestly doesn't have this long train. I can manage it all myself. Like I can just whatever. Whereas every year I feel like it's become

more, it hasn't become more complicated. I feel like second year I did have a train. That was complicated. And that's stressful because you're not there to manage the look. A lot of times these red carpet looks, they don't look right unless they're placed perfectly. Which is so interesting. This whole thing is smoke and mirrors. So like there's people who are helping to straighten out the dress and stuff there, but like you can't be there to make sure everything still looks as it's supposed to. Like do you have a meltdown about that on the day of? Are you like, refreshing Getty Images freaking out? Of course, I'm literally like,

waiting for something to go wrong. But it hasn't gone wrong for, I don't think there's been like, I've never had something where I'm like, oh my god, her top fell off. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not like, oh my god, nipple out. That's never happened.

That would be cool. Maybe that could happen this year. Well, how are you feeling? I'm feeling so chill. Well, actually, no, let me elaborate. There are a few things I could happen this year. Well, how are you feeling? I'm feeling so chill. Well, actually, no, let me elaborate. There are a few things I worry about every year. Number one, how am I gonna up my game with the interviews? Like, I don't want it to feel

exactly like the year before. I'm always like, oh, what can I bring to the table that's maybe a bit new? But it's kind of hard to reinvent that wheel. Like, it sort of just is what it is, in a way. And it's natural, and it's kind of hard to reinvent that wheel. It sort of just is what it is in a way. And it's natural and it's dependent on the other person and there's kind of... There's nothing you can really do.

No, and there's not a lot of planning you can really do. And also... You also don't have much time. You have to ask people what they're wearing, how they're feeling, and then they leave. And then they leave. And it's like, I try to get something else in there too, if I can.

What's your favorite movie? Yeah, literally. Well, see, that's what I try to get something else in there too if I can. What's your favorite movie? Yeah, literally. Well see that's what I'm thinking. It's like how can I make it feel fresh or like bring some new questions to it. But it's also like I cannot overthink it. Yeah. So I'm just trying not to overthink it. So that's where I'm at with that. I'm a little stressed because I'm out of control of it. I don't know what it's going to be until the moment. And I don't know who I'm going to be interviewing. Like I know who's going. Yeah. Because I had my table read today. How was it? It was great. Do you want to explain what that is? Oh yeah.

The table read is basically, now you're interviewing me. I love it. It's basically where I go to the Vogue office and they tell me everyone who's going and what they want to talk about in their lives or careers, what they don't want to talk about in their lives or careers, what they don't want to talk about in their lives or careers, so that everybody feels comfortable and safe and loved. Do you have someone... Is someone whispering these things to you again on the carpet? Yeah, they have like a full binder with all that.

So that's stressful. Also, what really stresses me out is like, I want the day of, like you want... There's this fear, it's so vain, but it's like you want to look good. Yeah, of course. And so it's this stress of like, is my skin gonna be good that day?

Like, am I gonna pose well that day? Like, there's all these things, like, is my face gonna look washed out or like, whatever? Or am I, like, am I retaining water? Because it's my period and my face is bloated. Like I don't know, it's just all these fears. Are you on your period? No, thank God.

I feel like a lot of people are. Really? What do you think is like the worst thing that could happen on- On Met Day? Yeah, like I don't think period is the worst. Well like worst thing is like- I was on my period one year when I wore the white skirt,

I think. Yeah, I remember that. Fully on my fucking period, you know. Stark white skirt. There actually has never been a whiter skirt. You've never worn a whiter skirt. I don't know how I didn't bleed. I don't either, you were so cleansed. I was clenching my cooter. Y'all have never seen anything like it.

What is the worst thing that could happen on that day? I mean, you get so sick you can't go. That's, I would be so sad. Is there such a thing as being too sick? I would go anyway. Imagine you're like food poisoning. I would go anyway. I'm actually not kidding. I'm fully serious. Wait, this is a good game. What if you got hit by a car and had memory loss and had to do the interviews? You knew it was the Met? That's so dark. You knew it was the Met. But I don't remember. But you don't remember who these people are, why you're there, anything.

But you know you're going to look amazing. Oh, if I know I'm going to look amazing, I'm still going. The dress is great. But you have to interview everybody. Can I be honest? It'd probably be the best interview I ever do. Because when you're not overthinking the interview, you're like, that's when it's weird. That's true.

I feel like most people don't realize that you pretty much go in cold turkey. I'm full cold turkey. Whereas like for a podcast. I don't know if cold turkey's the right term. It is not, but I love the way that you said it. You had spirit and it was close enough. That you felt it.

So I say that we run with it. Okay, great. So you go in cold turkey. Yeah, like I don't plan. Yeah. Which is crazy. Which is so crazy Yeah, like I don't plan. Yeah. Which is crazy. Which is so crazy. Well, I can't.

Like, it's like, I do, I mean, planning in the sense of like, I'm aware of who's going and I'm trying to be aware of like what they're working on and stuff at the time so that I can maybe reference it. However, I do feel like, you know, a lot of times celebrities, they talk about what they're working on in that very moment so much on press tours and stuff that I think a lot of times people are excited

to talk about themselves a little more and something a little bit more personal because I think most of the time people are, they're like, my God, I've been talking about my fucking movie for six months. I have nothing else to say. I'm just repeating the script. Yeah, it's like a how are you is gonna have

a more interesting answer for them. They're gonna be excited to answer that question Okay, but anyway back to fashion What is your? ideal formula for putting together a Met look in the sense of working with a designer or not maybe Sourcing archive. What's sort of the ideal relationship with the glam team? Yeah. What's your sort of dream scenario?

What makes it the smoothest and the most effective? And what is the opposite? Like, what is a challenging situation? I think something I didn't know before our first year was that it's so much more effective when you start these conversations with designers to pull references from their past runway shows, because everyone's mostly creating custom things.

So the first year, I think I had all these ideas and I presented it to Louis Vuitton, who you're going with, and none of them had anything to do with the brand. Like nothing was like from past seasons and archive pull anything. And it was just like for inspiration. Yeah. But quite quickly, I was like, oh, you have to like pull from what they do best. Yes.

One, so that they feel like it's highlighting their work. But also like you want to pick things that they've done well in the past because you see examples of it, you know that it went well, and like it just helps speed the process along. Yeah. Because everyone feels included and it's like leaning into people's strengths. So that is a, I mean like that's where I try and start with anybody is like picking things from designers' pasts that are strong instead of just like random references.

So that's kind of what I can do. But then it is always nice when designers are receptive and excited and like wanna collaborate, because very rarely do talent and stylists and designers all like have the same idea. Totally, are you kidding me? Ever, literally ever. It never happens. Ever, so which is great. It's like everyone brings same idea. Totally, are you kidding me? Ever, literally ever. It never happens.

Ever, so which is great. It's like everyone brings something to the table, which makes it like this collective fashion stew. Stew, stew. I'm hungry, can you tell? That sounds yummy. Should we have stew? We should have stew.

We should call down and say things. Do you have stew? They'd be like, please leave our hotel. Yeah, they're like, you're being moved to another hotel. You can get stew on the street. Yeah, you can get, yeah. You can get stew from a bodega. Do not do that here.

Where were we? Oh, fashion stew. Oh yeah, stew. Okay, back to stew. So, I mean, when a designer's receptive, that's like so nice, just because it's so much better when it's a collaboration. When it's like people who are down to like vibe.

Like really collab. Yeah, and like want like talent and stylist opinion. Same for hair and makeup. I think the best possible scenario is when everybody's like trusting and excited and like respects everyone around them, which I feel like, I think we've gotten there, but we were quite young for our first two years,

and it's hard to be the youngest people in the room and also be the ones who are supposed to be directing it, because I mean, why would they trust us? We're like, yeah, we're literally- We're stinky little kids. Like, gross. We were honestly gross and we needed to change our diaper. That's kind of how people look at you though. I know. But I we needed to change our diaper.

That's kind of how people look at you though. I know. And, but I get it. I would too. I know. If you're like, have been in the industry for years and you have like a 19 year old and a 23 year old like telling you what to do. It's like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah. 1000%. I mean, but I do feel like year after, we're becoming more and more involved. Completely. But I would say, like, the first three years, we were just kind of fish out of water in a way. It was just still such a new thing. And I feel like this is the first year where it's like,

Jean-Paul Gaultier was so down to collab with us and make something that felt like a true marriage of all of us in a new way that we've never experienced. They are asking us, what do you think of this exact material? Do you wanna use this type of lace or do you wanna use this type of lace or this type of lace? They're giving us

so many options. Options so that we're really involved in the design process, especially you. You're helping them choose very specific details. But I think where it gets challenging is the Met is such a public event that everybody wants their art in one way or another to show through, you know what I'm saying?

So it's like, that's why I think there's such a conflict of interest a lot of times. It's like the brand wants to represent themselves in a certain way. The stylist wants to represent themselves in a certain way. Hair and makeup want to represent themselves in a certain way. And then of course, the person wearing all of it wants to represent themselves in a certain way.

So there's like so many people who want themselves to be represented in the way that feels truly them as an artist. And that is where it's challenging because it's valid. It's like, yeah, it makes sense that everyone wants to showcase their art and have it come through. But it's like, there are compromises that have to be made in a way.

Not every part of every person involved can shine, but that doesn't mean it's not gonna be a great representation of everybody. Yes. Yeah. Like I think we both like to, we like to play around and be involved. Like we're really hands on. Probably to a point that like everybody's like,

can they just fucking stop? No, people. Can they get out? Like we never can work with them again. They love, why do they like fashion this much? hate us people hate us but I'm ultimately gonna be snatched um so and then they love and then they love me again let's talk about creating this year's look hmm as I said earlier we started doing fittings for it and having meetings for it what two months ago it was during Paris Fashion

Week which was February? Yeah. Is that right? Yep. I think so. Yeah, a while ago. Explain the whole process. The whole process, well, first, we put together a list of people

that we wanted. Yep. And Vogue has a say in who you're wearing. And it ended up being Gautier. And when we were in Paris for Paris Fashion Week, we decided to have a meeting at their headquarters, which is gorgeous. I will say that was like one of the best days

slash meetings of my entire life. The best meeting ever, because it's the most beautiful building in Paris and there's like the most amazing view and they have the whole atelier in there. And so you can just go see them making all these beautiful. Like hand sewing all these crazy things. It was the coolest thing I've ever experienced.

Yeah, and I mean you had scoured Vogue Runway or whatever and like found so many good references that made sense for the theme because that's the other thing is that it can be hard to be on theme because again there's. I think it's very hard to be on theme. It is very hard to be on theme. I think, well, it depends on the theme especially,

but I think in general it is hard to be on theme because again, everybody has their own vision. Totally, yeah. So you have to find something that's on theme, but also in the brand's DNA that you're wearing. So like you found all these references that could be torn off the runway and just worn to the event

because it matches the theme enough. You know what I'm saying? So that was really smart on your end, finding those references beforehand, bringing them to them and saying, this is the fucking vibe, you guys. Yeah. But also let's make it new.

Well, yeah, we showed up. We had this meeting. They showed us their gorgeous offices with some of the best fashion I've ever seen. And then we laid out all of our ideas. And they had someone sitting next to us, sketching as we were talking. Also, the coolest things ever happened.

So cool. This is where I'm a nerd. That's like, coolest thing that's ever happened. So cool. This is like where I'm like a nerd. Like that's like that I would. Not even. You're like the coolest fashion nerd ever. You need like a little pair of black glasses with a little tape around the center. Cute. And then like, but it's like ultimately like Chanel.

Wait, that's so cute. You know what I mean? Like nerdy fashion nerd glasses. I love that. I feel like a brand needs to come out with those as like a. By the way, someone will. No, that would be really cute. You know?

Yeah. Right? That's actually adorable. That's like Balenciaga coders. I was gonna say, same thing. They love being silly like that. Yeah, I'll tell them. Okay, tell them.

I will. Okay. No, we need to keep that. But we had that meeting. They had someone sketching. Then they took like all of your measurements. They measure like your pinky toe, the distance from your toe to your thumb.

They did actually measure every single inch of my fucking mouth. They're like bottom of ear to top of ear to eye, just in case. Just in case. For the fashion glasses. Yes. Then after that, we had a couple Zooms

where they put together some options, some sketches, and then we just gave them feedback. And then they came to LA. We did our first fitting, which was like what? Like a week and a half ago? Yeah. Almost two weeks? I don't remember.

Two weeks, I think. And it was a good fitting, I think. Everything was great. Like we had a few things to change. Like I think, you know, I have two looks because I have my main like look for the carpet and then I have a slightly less dramatic version for the interviews.

And so, you know, we had to try on two separate dresses, but there were only like a few minor changes to both. The carpet dress had more to do. Well, it was unfinished. Yeah, the interview dress was closer to being done. So that look was pretty solid. It was like done, but also even like, even the actual dress dress

was even though it's not close to being done, it's close enough and it like, everything fit really nicely. Cause also this specific look is, it's sleeveless corset vibes. And sometimes that can be a tough one to be flattering because you get the armpit vagina, you know? It doesn't give your arm the space to move properly.

Like it just sort of like. If you have a strapless corset, it can squeeze you at the top and make it. It can go up too high and then be very unflattering. And I was very nervous about that when we went into this look doing a corset. I was like, oh God, like I'm gonna definitely have a lot of notes about, you know, let's get rid of this armpit vagina.

And ultimately, there was no armpit vagina. I don't need more than one vagina on me. On any red carpet, all I need is one. What underwear am I gonna wear under this, I'm thinking, because it's kind of see-through. It's a little bit see-through, the thinnest matching like Are you well I was gonna suggest somewhat of a thong, but maybe just I would wear a thong. Oh cool

Like a thin one like a little seamless super thin thong barely there. Okay, that's fine I hate thong. Maybe we can make it a little thicker than a thong Like a bikini. Yeah. Well, that's actually big. Well, that's huge. That's covering the whole lot. Yeah, but then is there anything between bikini and thong?

I don't think that there is. Maybe there's not. Maybe we should create that. So we have a new company. In one day. So we have a new company starting. And as you can see, fashion glasses and in between thongs and bikinis.

That's great. I think this is a huge market. This is a huge market. I love this company. What should we call it? Thong bikini glasses. Can I be honest? Open that up in Soho, thong bikini glasses.

Something called that. That would be huge. Genuinely, there would be a line out the door. People would be like, I don't even know what they're selling. I have to go. But the name is so chic. Like it actually is like people, there's like a lord of that. Well, I'd be a line out the door. People would be like, I don't even know what they're selling. I have to go. But the name is so chic. Like, it actually is like, there's like a lord of that. Well, I'd be so confused.

Same, but that's what people would be like excited. Like what does it mean? I need to know. I've never seen something like this. I've never seen something like this. I need to know more. So uncover your potential with the all new LG Gram Pro laptop. Staying as light as a gram, this powerhouse is here to elevate your workflow.

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What it like, paint that picture for me broadly. And I'll tell you what I think too. I think it has to like take some type of risk for men. Agreed. I think so. I think it's, if you're going and not doing something out of the ordinary, it's like, this is the time to do it. Yep.

So something that's different and taking some type of risk. Yeah, I just, I would love, I like it when people steer away from boring. Yep. Because again, when else can you do this? I think for regular red carpets, if you just look gorgeous, great. But for this, there's so many added layers that there's the opportunity to do something more creatively exciting.

So that's like the biggest thing. But also, I think you can just tell when something like is flattering on someone and is the right coloring for them. You can kind of feel when it was a good process and they feel great. Personalized to them. Totally. And their features. What do you think is a good Met Gala look?

Number one, something that does feel truly organic to the person. Like you see them in it and it's not like they look like they're dressing up in their parents' clothes and they're a kid. Totally, yes. You know what I mean? It feels like, oh, this is them. Yeah. You know what I mean? It feels like, oh, this is them. This is not, and it doesn't even necessarily need to be their consistent aesthetic.

Yeah. You know? Just like they're wearing it. It just needs to feel like them wearing it. Exactly, like they are shining in it. It makes sense for them. It, in some way, ties into their personality or who they are,

whether it's in a costume way, like in a, you know, I'm dressing up as someone else or something else way, or in a personal way, whatever. I also think, definitely like beautiful tailoring. Like the way something's tailored, if it's made for the body, like I think a lot of times, like any time it looks like, oh, you know, the pants are a little too long, or like the corset's a little too tight, it's like, oh, the pants are a little too long, or the corset's a little too tight,

it's like, that's not how it's supposed to be, that's not how close they're supposed to fit. And that, but we find ourselves, do you know what I'm saying? Like for example, if we're doing a fitting, and I'm squeezing into something, it's like, we just can't do this. Even if we could make it fit,

it's like, the can't do this. Yeah, like even if we could make it fit. It's like The perfect tailoring is it's everything. It's everything and I feel like that's overlooked for sure Like that's why we have to do fittings up until the very last day because your body changes like you could be you could have pooped More and now you need to take it in a little bit on the waist or maybe like you haven't pooped And you need to let it out There and you need to let it out. There's so many, you need to let it out or you have gas and you're very, very bloated. And so there's always, there's so many variables that you need to be doing fittings up until the last day to have something perfectly fitted, which is so crazy. But it kind of reminds me of like weddings.

You know what I mean? People are doing fittings for their wedding like constantly, constantly. It's like, wow, you're still doing fittings for the wedding? It's like, this is so boring. It's like, so boring, no one cares. Do something else. Do something else, why are you wearing, it's a white dress. Why are you wearing that?

Okay, that's not camp. Jared, it can't be easy to do more than two people. No, scratch that. More than one person for the Met, because it is the biggest carpet of the year in many people's eyes. And there are so many details that go into it,

and there's kind of, it feels like a lot on the line, right? Like it's like very high pressure, especially when you are, you know, directly helping someone achieve a good look. Like there's a lot of pressure on you to make shit happen. You're making me so nervous. You know what I mean? Okay, so no, but listen, hear me out, hear me out, okay?

You're correct. You're correct. How do you manage having this year, what, five different people going to the Met or four? Five. Yeah, you're addressing five people for the Met. How do you manage that? Like, you're not doing it all alone.

No, I have an insane, amazing team that it's mostly, I mean, I have a team in LA, and most of them came out. I have a team of four. Uh-huh. Lauren, Brooke, Maya, Emily, shout out. We love them. And literally obsessed. Obsessed. Would be dead without. Dead. So would you. You'd probably be naked, Emily, shout out. And literally obsessed.

Would be dead without. Dead. So would you. You'd probably be naked. Oh, hideous. You think I do things? I don't do anything. No, I mean, you're doing all of it.

You're just like, come on you guys, where's my coffee? Don't do anything else. It's really inspiring. It's who I am. It's who you are. So I have a team and they're amazing and they have been, they're very used to getting people ready for red carpets Because there are lots of times where red carpets are happening and multiple people are going so everybody

Has somebody who's with them even if I'm not able to be there But I try and one I try and give everybody as much time and attention as humanly possible. Everybody has one to two, if not three fittings. I'm usually there for all of them. And then kind of like day of, I do try and make it to everybody. I was actually just planning this out. But it really, the way I have to prioritize it is by who has the most complicated look,

who needs the most help getting into it, who has the most unknowns with hair and makeup that need direction, and just kind of take it from there. Like this year, I'm getting a car for myself. I've never done that. I've always, it's like a really- It's just been whipped around. Yeah, I gotta be whipped.

Like, it's actually a nice system because you're the first person on the carpet. Yeah. Which is so weird. I know. You're the first one there, so you're earlier than everybody else. Yeah.

So, the way it's gonna work this year is I have another client staying at your hotel. Yep. Who's starting Glam around a similar time. So I can run up and down and like be with both of you and then we'll take you to the carpet and then I can swing back and take another client who's at another hotel to the carpet and then hopefully swing back and take another in the car to the carpet and then hopefully swing back and take the last couple

to the carpet. That is so intense. I'm trying to do it because everybody, I want to be with everybody as much as possible. But the way I like plan it out is whoever, I mean. Who needs the most like the most TLC, tender loving care? Well you're dressed this year as a full corset from top to bottom. This is definitely the most complex one in terms of getting dressed. Yeah. And you're the earliest so I can lace you up and then go take care of the next.

But I don't know, you just have to like, being present at all the fittings to make sure that like all the prep going into it is done well is like the most you can do. And then showing up as much as humanly possible on the day of is also ideal, but once all the looks are like sorted, and everything's done, like if the hair and makeup is simple, and the outfit is worked out, like you really don't need much assistance, it's more just like moral support.

So I'm trying to be there for everybody as much as humanly possible. Yeah, you get it done, babe We're trying you get it done. Well, we'll see Do you have any predictions for? What other people are gonna wear this year? This is a great theme to like go off. I feel like I Mean, honestly the the best predictions I can give is there's gonna be a lot of florals and nature but we're

doing kind of like the darker grungier like more gritty side of nature it's very much about like death and decay and yeah things at the end of their lifecycle which was a choice because the story that this theme is based off of, it ends with like this enchanted garden being plucked... And decayed. ...bare, and then it's like, it's just leaves and dead things left. Yeah. Which was fun for us, but I feel like we're gonna get a lot of people and like blushing flowers and beautiful blooming things,

but I don't know, maybe we're wrong. Maybe everyone will be like, let's do decay. We, well, I was excited about the decay because it's sort of, I like that color scheme. I like that. I like the silhouettes that go hand in hand with that. Like I just like the overall feel of that more. Yeah.

I'm a hot topic kid. I'm super different. I'm super different. Very emo. I'm really emo. Goth. And goth different. I'm super different. Very emo. I'm really emo. Goth. And goth. Can't say goth on the carpet.

Oh my god. I said something on an interview once and I got so much shit. Emma, you wore black to, you literally wore black to a red carpet and you're like, this is super goth. And the internet was so mad. No, but you know what I meant?

It was more like, I don't know, I'm kind of like in a more gothic. Well, it was grungy. Yeah, I was, oh, I said grunge. I didn't say goth. I said grunge. I, but you know what I meant? It was more like, I don't know, I'm kind of like in a more gothic. Well, it was grungy. Yeah, I was, oh, I said grunge. I didn't say goth. Did you? I said grunge. Don't say grunge. This look is like a bit grungier than what I'm like. It was like a gorgeous corset dress.

I don't remember what I said though. So if somebody's gonna get mad at me and be like, you're lying and you're gaslighting. Something with a G and it was either goth or grunge. I know that. I said something about like being more in a grunge era of my life, I guess. And everyone was like, this is not grunge.

You're wearing a gorgeous black gown. Strapless dress. And red eyeshadow. But for me, it was grungier for me. But it wasn't necessarily grunge by definition. So I definitely. We've just striked those words from the language. Wow, I am not using them anymore.

Grunge, grunge, stop saying it. I'm gonna be doing the interviews being like, this is so grunge. They're wearing a pink little frilly like doing the interviews being like so grunge throwing like a pink every really dress everyone's like what are you wearing like I'm so grunge this year oh my god that's a one-way ticket to just I don't know like not really being a fashion girl anymore no it's hard to predict exactly what it will be but that's the fun of it Zendaya is a co-chair what's Zendaya gonna wear? Zendaya's gonna wear, I feel like she's gonna wanna wear something corseted.

Oh. But I don't know, I feel like she'll wanna, maybe this is more of a hope, but I hope she does something like romantic and like, kind of like Edwardian. I see romantic in like silvery blues for her. For this. What do you, you don't see this.

Teal, weird too. I see greens. Yeah green in it too. Greens. You're like green green. Yeah that's what I meant. Watch us be psychic and get this all right. I will freak out. Can we put can do we win? Yeah what do we win you guys? Anyway no. We'll just we'll just have a shot of tequila at the after party. Okay are you excited for after parties? Oh wait for that. We're gonna get into that last. Pause. Because we have to name a few more celebrities and what they're gonna wear. Okay, what about Ariana Grande?

Big and pink, because it's wicked. She's in her wicked era. Big and pink, interesting. Okay, I could see her in like a really sheer white thing, okay? With like a bunch of flowers tacked onto it. Sounds gorgeous. Like floral, like it looks like a forest inside of the... Her. Inside of her. It's inside of her. Okay, so that's what I picture.

What's Rihanna gonna wear? Oh, Rihanna. Interesting, because last year she did a big like floral... I loved it. ...like cape-y thing. Yeah. Like flowers. Yeah. And there was another year year she did a big floral, cape-y thing, like flowers. And there was another year where she did- Oh wait, I actually don't remember what that looked like. Wow, I need to Google that.

Wait, she was pregnant. Iconic as well. I hope that one day I can go to a Met Gala pregnant. That would be so sick. Oh my God. You have to do this. But I wanna be like eight months pregnant, like about to birth.

Like I go into labor at the Met Gala vibes. Well, that's obviously the plan. Yeah. But that would be, you could actually time that out well. I know. You could find the day. I just have to have sex in November. Or no, no, no.

I'm not even going to attempt this right now. I think it's August. I'm going to trust you on that. August, September maybe. I'm so tired. I don't want to count the months. No, we can't do math right now. Anyway, so I'll know when to have sex.

And then you can have, that would be amazing. Oh my God. A pregnant Met Gala would be gorgeous. Oh my God, imagine I bring baby daddy of the baby to it and we put him in a matching outfit. And then the next year you have the baby in an outfit. Oh my boo. And then you get a dog.

You can't go to the Met till you're 18. Yeah, I actually was thinking about that the other day. So baby gets shoved at home with my mom. OK, fine. Mommy, you're taking this one. But I feel like for me, like, let's say, let's put this into the calendar, like 2029, Met Gala. I'm pregnant.

That would be sick. It's kind of not in that long, five years. That's not that long. I'll have of not in that long, five years. That's not that long. I'll have a baby at like 27, why not? Yeah, just have a kid. I would know. Don't have a kid yet.

But it would look so cute at the after parties. This is a big question, are you slash we going to after parties this year? Because it's been back and forth. I have decided yes, Which is so fun. I, listen, here's the reason why I want to go. I like, well originally I booked my return flight back to LA,

Tuesday after the Met Gala at 7 a.m. So I was going to literally stay up all night and then fly home. So crazy. Which is just crazy. I don't know what I was thinking. I don't know why anyone listened to you and booked that. I know.

Someone should have stopped you. Where were y'all? I'm like yelling at my listened to you and booked that. I know. Someone should have stopped you. Where were y'all? I'm like yelling at my team who was in another room. No, I don't know what I was thinking. I was like, oh, I'm just gonna be so tired and I want to go home. No, I know what you were thinking. You were thinking, if I go to after parties,

then I'll get straight on the plane. Yes, that's what I was thinking. But that's it. That was probably it. Because you wouldn't come home and go to sleep. No. You have an illness where if you- I have to pull an all-nighter before my flight.

And it's so weird. And it makes no sense to me. And it's something we'll disagree on until we die. I sleep like baba on the plane. Yeah, but we've... There have been times where we have flights early and we have four hours and you're like, we should probably just stay out.

It's like, let's get a three-hour nap. No. Yes. No. Yeah, but you also don't... I've gotten better about it though. I do it more now. You also don't know because've thought better about it though. I do it more now.

You also don't know because remember when we took a nap during that shoot and it was the best decision we'd ever made. That's true. We did have a photo shoot once. Like we were super jet lagged because it was a shoot in Paris and we were like, okay, we have a one hour lunch break.

Like, can we nap? And we fucking napped. Hard. Okay, you're right. I'm not opposed to a nap. The only thing is can we nap? And we fucking napped. Hard. Okay, you're right. I'm not opposed to a nap. The only thing is I just hate flying on the plane so much. You wanna be knocked out.

That I wanna be knocked out. And like that's my journey. It's fair based. However, all is well because I moved my flight. So we can party and sleep. So we can party and then sleep and then wake up at like 11 a.m. It's all good, maybe even noon.

Amazing. Not gonna shoot for 11. And I can have a drink and like just enjoy myself. But it's crazy because there's like eight after parties. I was gonna say this year I feel like conflicted because there's so many. So it's hard to tell like where where's the good one? What's the fun one? Yeah. Who's where? Yeah. We're just gonna have to be like working the system. Oh, we're gonna have to be like working the system Oh, I we're gonna have to be lots of group chats lots of networking lots of emails I know it is kind of like the thing that's interesting though is that I think when I went to my first

Met gala party I was expecting it to be first year. Yeah. Oh, yeah pajamas. Yes. Yes. I was expecting it to be Crazy like a party. I've never experienced the after party. Mm-hmm. This is the party But it's crazy. I like normal the met party Well, yeah, the Met Gala event is unlike anything I've ever been to before I mean ultimately it is like celebrity prom. Yeah, but it is still its own experience There's nothing remotely like it. I mean, it is very unique in all ways. However, the after parties totally just feel like a party. Yeah. After party. I feel like last year, no one went out and it was kind of sad.

It was weird. No, I think this year people are going out. Definitely. But I remember last year, us like sitting in a corner being like, why is no one here? Like no one's going out. Yeah, I feel like this year will have a lot of good stories to report. I think so, too I'm gonna be buck wild. Are you are you gonna dance hard and stuff? I'm trying to think if there are even ones with dancing. Yeah, I remember that one. That was like a basement. Oh Basement yeah, I'll dance there. Yeah, we should definitely. It's like a big open room with no one dancing. I'm not dancing.

Austin and our friends, we need to go, and we need to have fun, and we need to dance, and just say who cares. All of you guys are trying to be too cool for school. I'm done with this BS. It's cringe, and I'm gonna do the fucking Macarena if I have to. Please don't do that.

Okay, too far? I will leave you. No, I just wanna do the Macarena if I have to. Please don't do that. Okay, too far? I will leave you. Oh no, I just wanna do the Macarena, please. Oh yeah, my final story that's so funny and then I'm letting you go to your next, you have so much to do today, don't talk to me anymore. I'm gonna just drop this. Yeah, literally just leave

and I'll just keep talking for two hours. Not last year, but the year before I dyed my hair blonde. Obviously I bleached my hair and a photo of it got leaked or whatever and we wanted to like debut my blonde hair. Can I be honest, I didn't know a photo got leaked. No one told me. A photo fully got leaked and it was, like it was so funny because my agent saw the photo

and was like, oh my God, no, and started like freaking out and wouldn't tell me what was wrong. I was like, girl, you gotta fucking tell me what's going on. She's like, no. And I was like, did my nudes leak? I'm like, I don't even take nudes. Like, what could it be? Also like, I probably, like my boobs probably look great.

Like I bet they look great. I was probably holding them properly. Like it was probably good. And I was like, I haven't taken a nude in a really long time. Like I don't take bad nudes. So it's all good. I face tune my nudes. So it's fine. That's Owen's joke. Is it?

Yeah. Owen always jokes about face tuning his nudes. I don't even know my own boyfriend. I know. I know. But that sounds like him. So you should be apologetic. I know. I know. Owen, I'm sorry. I stole your joke. Honestly. It is a good joke. It's a great joke.

Face tuning nudes is fun. No, I genuinely haven't taken a nude. I don't know the last time I've taken a nude. It's just like not happening these days. Maybe in the coming future. Maybe I'll take a nude. Maybe I'll take one tonight. We could do that.

But it'll be like really gross. Yeah, and like you'll like. I'll like be, oh my god, I had this like one, one time my friend took a photo of me in the bathtub and I like had a bunch of back knee and I was bent over and it was so funny and it is sort of a nude but it's hideous. I'm into that vibe of a nude.

I think that's funny. Repulsive nudes. Yes, yes, where it's not trying to be hot. Okay, anyway, back to what I was saying. Basically, she's freaking out. She's like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. And I was like, what is wrong? She's freaking me out.

I'm like, my nudes are leaked and like something, like my cat died, like something happened. And she was like, your hair got leaked. Everyone can see it. It's like a photo with like, I had gotten a massage done the day before and taken a picture with the girl who did it

because she's so awesome and whatever. And she posted it on her Instagram. And so now the blonde hair is out in the world, and she was freaking out. She's like, oh my God, are you upset? And I was like, not at all. Like, this shit is not that serious. We're so tunnel visioned, and we're so like zoomed in

that it's such a big deal to us, but also it's not that big of a deal. It's all just fun. It's all meant to be fun and to, you know, raise money for the Metropolitan Museum and that's really all it is. Yeah, that's it. And that's it. And it's not that serious.

No, however, we take it very serious. It's extremely serious. We spend nine months of the year thinking about it. Actually 12. Well, it's honestly, it is a year round thought. Although then there's like, but after, we have to wait till I get an invite again, because then it's just like, you can't start planning

unless you get invited. Yeah, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to do that. However, we do also that. Jared, I can't wait. It's like so nerve wracking actually when I think about it. Two days before, there's so much pressure. Like the pressure's building, building, building,

building, building. So I'm not like, I'm not worried about anything. Everything's gonna be good. It's just pressure. But it's just pressure. You're just under pressure. But there's so much to be excited about. I'm so excited.

And we're just gonna have fun, we're gonna make it fun. It's gonna be good. It's gonna it fun. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be good. Thank you for hanging out in your busy week, your busy Met Week. Are you kidding? You came to my hotel room and talked on the couch with me

under a robe. Well, that was my, I asked for the robe. Well, you're cold. And also, I wouldn't even be, there would be nothing else if you hadn't brought me on to do your first met. You're the only reason I'm here. Okay, well let's relax with that because you're slay and you're amazing at what you do.

And so are you. Okay, well stop. Okay, now we're gonna go cry and hold hands. And kiss. And we're gonna go cry, hold hands and kiss. So we'll talk to you guys later. By the time that you all are listening to this, you've seen it all. We're gonna go cry, hold hands and kiss, so we'll talk to you guys later. By the time that you all are listening to this,

you've seen it all, it's all out on the internet. What if it's so bad? I know, what if it's so, it's hideous, you guys are like. It could be. And it could be, so we'll see what you think. Just touch base later. We'll touch base later, but we love you all, and thank you for listening, and thank you Jared,

I love you, and thank you for coming on. I love you more. I think I love you more. No, okay