Are You Garbage? Comedy Podcast - The Chronicles of Jason Vol. 4 w/ Big Jay Oakerson
Episode Date: August 26, 2024Are You Garbage presents stand up comedian and podcast host Big Jay Oakerson! You know Big Jay from Legion of Skanks, The Bonfire, Kill Tony, The Joe Rogan Experience, Matt & Shanes Secret Podcast, Wh...iskey Ginger, 2 Bears 1 Cave, Stavvy's World, YMH, stand up comedy and more! Thanks for watching Are You Garbage Comedy Podcast. Come to a live show! AYG Live Show Tickets: https://punchup.live/areyougarbage/tickets Live Shows: https://punchup.live/areyougarbage/tickets PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AreYouGarbage MERCH: https://areyougarbage.com/ Aura Frames: https://auraframes.com Promo Code: garbage This Show is sponsored by BetterHelp Better Help: https://www.BetterHelp.com/GARBAGE Sheath: https://www.sheathunderwear.com/ Promo Code: Garbage Mando: https://shopmando.com/ Promo Code: Garbage Comedians H. Foley and Kevin Ryan are self proclaimed GARBAGE. Each week a new stand up comedian gets put to the test. Steal shampoo from hotels? Own a George Foreman Grill? Ever worn JNCO Jeans? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Having a stroke. Is that what it is? Yeah. Gang, we could be
more excited to have our incredibly, and I mean incredibly
special guest back with us again today for the anthology
known as the Chronicles of Jason
He is a diamond in the rough that diamond was blue raspberry
Ring pop in the rough this guy he is one of the best
Storytellers of our generation. He's one of the funniest comedians working. We absolutely love him.
You love him.
Ladies and gentlemen, Jason.
What's your middle name? Michael Yikes.
Big J.
Oakes and everybody, let's go.
You want to sound like a genius every time you meet Jason.
Goes your name, Michael.
It usually is one of the few names that flows with Jason.
OK, I pegged you for a guy that didn't have a middle name at all. Yeah, just a flat out buddy
You got no middle name vibes real bad. I've got a Jewish name
My Hebrew name they do that when you're when you're born a share
Really? Yeah, which is just funny boy. And Jason Michael I share
Documents like if you got it's TSA grabs you you're not like I share you're on a list
This must be him who's named that he pulled that out of you get jammed up
Guys fellow Jew here I share Okersen Berg
So my mom just could not wait to fuck the Jewish right out of our family really I mean between my dad my steppops a Italiany Italian guy you know it's like you
never did anything Jewish growing up you never did you didn't have a bar mitzvah
you didn't do did you do Hanukkah anything was yeah I mean yeah my
grandmother would do a Hanukkah yeah which was just like there was no real
celebration just lighten the menorah and you get a smaller present each day. It's just eight lighters.
Yeah.
They're grill lighters though.
Yeah, dude.
It's about a three pack and it took them out one day.
She goes, you buy three three packs,
we have a surplus now.
Man, that's so funny.
No, it was funny.
You'd get like a He-Man and then the next day
you'd get like the sword for the He-Man.
The helmet, the helmet.
It was like, break it down.
It's in the same package.
Let's break it down. The's in the same package. Just break it down.
The last day you get the receipt.
In case you want to take it back for something else.
Now that you have the full character.
The price is on it, so you know how much they paid.
Menoran us, and we would do like Passover.
We treated it like any holidays.
Every holiday was just like Thanksgiving.
Does that make sense?
Sure.
There was no like, we didn't do like a Seder or a read
from anything. Just everybody together.
Everyone gets together for Passover
and we had dinner at my grandmother's house.
A nice hivy train.
Gotcha.
Until it passed up.
Primo's hivies.
I do remember one thing, it's such a funny,
maybe I'm just missing up the nights,
but I think the night my grandfather passed,
I do think they do it this quick,
passed in the hospital in the evening. I was staying at my mom's friend's house for the night my grandfather passed, I do think they do it this quick. Passed in the hospital in the evening.
I was staying at my mom's friend's house for the night
so they could like.
How old were you?
10 or 11.
I was staying there for the night
because my mom was going to the hospital.
Sure.
And then he passed at the hospital.
And then my mom came and picked me up
and she was like, we're going to,
you know, your grandmother's house now
to like be with everybody.
And it was, I mean, we just found out he passed away
and we got back to that house.
Hoagie tray, dude.
I mean, a make your own, a nice make your own hoagie tray.
I mean like, yes, and it's just so funny.
It's so funny.
Now we're reading from Pat Cooper.
It's just so funny.
It's like, he just passed away and someone still had to go
like, did you put a paper towel under those rolls?
I'm not gonna be vacuuming all night.
I know, dude. I just picture they have like a red phone to go straight to Primo's
Holy shit, there's a death in the oak I love my grandfather so much
I was just too young to really process it and all I remember from that night is going there
There being a lot of people and a lot of food. I'm like this is very impromptu
Such a spread already and then go
This is very impromptu to have such a spread already. Is it the Super Bowl?
I remember going in for something else.
People doing karaoke and chips.
And that was this night I remember going like, I'm like, what is this?
And they were like, tongue.
And I went, eww.
That's my big memory from the moment my grandpa died that I was like, I looked at that tongue
and I'm like, oh, it's tongue.
It's like a shaved tongue.
I didn't know wah-wah served tongue.
Is that an off menu?
How did you know a guy?
Whoa, pop-pop died this month.
But where do we go?
We go to a fancy place. Wait, tongue in the hoagie tray tongue turkey ham and tongue
Chicken salad what are we doing here roast? Yeah, it's very it was very chewy meats
It was you know, a little little corned beef roast beef turkey. I'm with all that. Yeah tongue get out of yeah
Get a little liver worse a little chopped liver
The trays were crazy. Yeah, let me get a slice. He must have got the wazoo
Clear out the sinuses a little bit
So the last time you were here again, we're here for the fourth installment of the Chronicles of Jason
We got through junior high. We got through high school a little bit
You've been you've been doing comedy for a long time.
You started out in Philly. We started out in Philly.
You came up through the Laugh House Black Comedy Club in Philadelphia.
Shout out to it on South Street.
We started out there.
And when we started out around 2008, 2009,
you were like a god.
Well, I was gone by that.
You were. Yeah, you were going.
You were the only new idea of success that you can get out of Philly.
You can get out of Philly. Jay's doing it.
All we knew of you was a couple of pictures in the
a couple of pictures in my hair. Let's go.
Couple of pictures in the laugh house of you wearing all the lore
or something like that.
Some crazy, some jumpsuit. The funniest was, not being religious at all, but definitely
if you had to identify I'd be like, well I guess I'm Jewish. If anything, you know,
but not religious at all. And man, I mean, how quick, I didn't even think, I just went
with the style. Like a big chain with a cross was the style. Yeah. So I just wore it. And
I was also like, and nice little
hitch, the black people probably, you know, that'll give me, that'll buy me 30
seconds. Sure. That was the mission me and Kurt. Kurt Metzger started three weeks
after me. Did he start at the Laugh House too? Yeah. It was a very, you know, it was a
very specific education starting there and I accredited a lot of, a lot of, you
know, who we are as comedians for I wouldn't change any of it
I said in the way because one
What I didn't understand to start doing I would I had a couple of beds
That's how I had oh my god. I was all part of it. I had one jumped by promoters
I've been I've had all kinds of crazy. I'd have
Threatened the fight Javon Pearson to get money ones when we were there the little the white guys were me
I think kippy was in there Ian Cassidy Richie Redding
Richie Redding was like the tale of he was a movie star when we got there
He was I'd memorize he had a he had like a Marty McFly
Vest on and he was up there murdering somebody would say something he, he'd kill him and be like, holy shit.
He brought a gazelle for a little bit on stage.
He was doing like a Tony Robbins character.
But here's the thing, I have no,
as you'll hear in this episode, I'm sure,
I drew no lines.
Right away I was like,
this scene isn't gonna be where I hone my killer jokes.
And I'm also 19, I have no life experience.
So it's just gonna be observational.
That's when you started 19?
Yeah, I'm just gonna have observational bullshit
about my 19 year old's life.
So to me it was like, and then I learned that you can kill.
It could be very vapid material,
but I mean if you are doing the craziest,
do you know what I mean?
You go, then I'm fucking around on one foot,
and you can jump and hold the stool
and do some kind of crazy thing. They're like everyone's going crazy
So I learned that quick so and I wish I nations of jail go back. I gotta go back
We have what you're we talking. What are we talking? So you're 19. When did you start going down there 99?
Helium didn't exist in existence right now and everything No, and everything had gone away. It was apparently, I had missed by a few years
the hotbed of Philly comedy because there was Copacabana,
as they said, was a place.
Sure, yeah, that was a place.
I think there was a Coconuts comedy club.
There was, I believe, a Coconuts.
The Laugh House used to be called,
what's the big comic from Philly?
David Brenner's Laugh House.
No shit.
That was L-A-U-G-H.
And then D-Lee and the Hot 97 DJ and a couple other people bought it and made it the LAF
Laugh House.
That's who owned it when you were there because us it was Ms. Mona and Mr. Rod.
Ms. Mona and Mr. Rod were the co-owners with him.
He stole D-Lee and then split.
Big Jay airing out the laundry.
Fuck D-Lee the Lee dude I hope
he's listening that guy years later this was one of the funniest thing Dee Lee
was one of the owners of the laugh out he got in trouble they said he was stealing
money out of the stuff for taking money from the business he just vanished one
day gone he was a hot he was a power 99 yeah man and he just split you got the
fuck out of Dodge and then a filly or out of Philly
I love and then opened up a club in st. Louis. Okay, I
Went down to the first club in st. Louis first time that's its own like goofy story of like
It was I went down there. He just did like 45 minutes as a host. He just hosted
I was big the host would go up and do a long time. And it was-
And if they were the owner, forget about it.
And this was like me. And he had me down there to headline his club because he didn't have
money so he wasn't paying anybody good money. So I came down there and did it. I was like,
I don't give a shit. At the end of that, there was a two week waiting for my money thing
happened.
Sure.
But this is also when beggars can't be choosers. So a year or so later when he had a new location
in St. Louis- Man, I fall for that. Can you come out to this one? Sure. Beggars can't be choosers. So a year or so later when he had a new location in
St. Louis, I fall for that. Can you come out to this one? Sure still not paid I bring Dave's no I got paid for the other one eventually like two weeks later
I go out there with I bring Dave Smith to open for me. How long it was this? How long have you known Dave?
20 years almost so you weren't still in Philly at this at this point. No, this is out of Philly
Okay, this is I'm just giving up D. Lee to give you the guy.
I gotcha.
Just how it goes like years later.
Yeah, I'm already in New York at this point.
Okay.
And then he just reaches it.
But it's still, like I said, like headline gigs
are like few and far between, so.
Gotta take them.
They asked me to go anywhere out of New York.
I'm like, sure, for any money.
But Dave goes with me and it was like,
I was told I was getting like maybe $2,000 or something,
which was pretty good for me,
and Dave Smith was getting like 500 bucks or something.
No, he wasn't.
I'm like, great.
And we go down there and it's in an industrial park,
this club, it's a nice club actually,
but it's just, there's no one there.
I'm not drawing, that wasn't gonna be the case.
The other club was down by the river front,
so it was just foot traffic, it was busy.
Now it's not busy
They canceled the Sunday show we were gonna have because the MTV Music Awards were killing ticket sales
Christ but that day I got a special TRL that that day. I got a call from him
and he goes uh
He goes a man was talking to your boy, Ture,
and Ture, you know Ture, of course.
Shout out to Ture.
Ture Gordon, he goes, your boy Ture,
he goes, I'm just going back and forth with him right now.
He goes, dude came down to the club,
and I told him I was gonna pay him,
I was gonna send his money, whatever,
and then he's hitting me up like, yo, I need that money,
I need that money, he goes, I FedExed it to him,
and it's like, he's not even there to,
he's like, and he texts me, he goes, I said,
I FedExed it to you, he said, I'm on a plane plane. I'm like well motherfucker. I'm trying to send you this money
What and he's giving you a story you're like, why are you telling me? Yeah
Yeah
I'm like, why are you giving me all this thing?
He's like and it's just like I like guys Western Union more than one
Comedy club owner has done this to me before he goes. It's's why is it guys like you, man? You're fucking cool.
You just go thing.
It's like, you don't make waves.
You understand.
You understand that like sometimes.
I can kick your ass.
You can't handle yourself when shit hits the fan.
But the Laugh House was one,
that's another step in the education.
Like Cotton said, Toure, who was like a great mentor
when we were there, get your fucking money that night you do not leave without
getting but yeah you're a little outnumbered in these situations so I got theory that's the rule so at the end of the week and he
does the old like hey man I'm gonna send you the money whatever and now let's
talk we're home two months and he keeps going shit man. I forgot and then oh no, I'm wrong
He gave me a check and he goes don't cash this
Wednesday that before yeah, don't catch it till Wednesday Wednesday. Okay, that's fine
Tuesday I get a call don't catch that
Burn it burn why he goes someone stole a lot someone stole my checkbook. So now I have to cancel all those checks
I'm gonna reassureue saying a new one.
Now it's like two months go by and he keeps doing like the, oh man, I thought my assistant's
... Let me figure it out.
There's no assistant.
No, no assistant.
There's no checkbook that got taken.
And Dave especially is broke too.
I have kids.
Sure.
The worst part is you bank on, I'm leaving, I'm coming home with that money
on Tuesday and I'm clear.
And you brought them, so you feel a little responsible.
And they can also get you, also when you're young
and have no money too, people can get you with his,
something's coming down the road too.
So it's like, hey look, I don't got any,
you're like, okay, well I'm fine this week.
And I'm like, no shit, like in three days,
that money's gonna show up.
And I'm like, all right, that'll be great.
Then I'll have a surplus.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like I'll be living in a surplus. And then months.
What? And then I call him probably for the 15th time to beg, hey D, what is going on?
I know FedEx be tripping. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Did you send it to Ture? Because he's not home.
I did run to the store, I might have missed them.
Yeah, he goes, wait a second, is there a FedEx?
FedEx is wild.
I didn't see a sticker, but they don't leave the stickers in there.
But he calls me up and he goes, or I go, hey man, and he goes, hey man, I don't have time
to deal with this right now, okay?
He goes, my sister just died and we got a blah, blah, blahness and it killed me so on
the ropes that I was like, dude, I'm so sorry, I didn't know.
I didn't know your sister died. And I I getting this heartfelt apology and then I hung up and I took ten steps
And then I was like wait, it's and I call back and go D if that's even true
I'm sorry to hear that but what the fuck does that have to do with that?
You sending me money from two and a half three months ago. I gotta get a hoagie train
She's the one that worked at FedEx motherfucker
I gotta get tongue for the family.
We're mourning here.
So I called back and it was-
It's Hanukkah, Jay.
It's Hanukkah.
And then very quickly, shortly after that,
he never sent the money.
And then he just went,
apparently he owed a lot of people money like this.
It wasn't the only one.
So he went off grid completely.
I love it.
And then popped back up.
Hey Jay, I got a gig for you.
Oh, you can look at this online right now.
Have at it everybody.
Christian comedian Dee Lee.
And now he only performs like churches and like those groups.
He's doing the same bits from when he was back years ago.
He's terrible.
And then when he popped back up,
me and Dave Smith on Legion of Skanks talked about that
and told that story again and told the whole thing.
And then our fans started wailing on his comments
of his religious thing.
Don't do that, gang.
And then he sent me a message going like,
Jay, listen man, I wanna make right on all the things I did
and then send you that money, man.
But this is 10 years later.
Sure.
He goes, I wanna send you that money
and make right with you and stuff.
And like, give me an address
so I can like cut you a check or something. And I went, nah, I think I want to send you that money and make right with you and stuff and like give me an address so I can like cut you check your so next I always I went nah
I think I'm as good to let my fans destroy your religious page
He said I just left it alone at that, but that's that was the owner of the place when I started
That's another thing to it the laugh house that that was my introduction into Christian comedy
Oh, yeah, that was even a thing
I remember going to those shows like what the fuck is going on in here?
Oh, I found out it was a Christian show one time.
When you get there, that's the worst.
Me and Kevin Hart and Kevin Hart was always able to adapt.
Do you know what I mean?
He's an entertainer.
You could just say, you are no Kevin Hart.
I'm no Kevin Hart.
If you if you're if you're if you're a if you're a white comedian,
young white comedian doing a black Christian show, you're bombin'.
You're bombin'.
You're done.
You're bombin'.
You know nothing about black church.
No, dude.
You're coming at it from a way different field.
In your leeway.
You might as well be the devil.
Your leeway is nil.
Yeah.
I mean, you have the slayest, the first mess up,
they're going like, here we go.
You guys ever go skiing?
Yeah.
Myself, I'm an atheist.
Oh, hell no.
No, I appreciate what you guys are into.
I like fables and shit.
Losing it.
Yeah.
No, those shows were awful.
But yeah, he packed out, though.
And when you saw us, I remember Cotton and Temple doing them.
And they're murdering.
And I'm being like, Jesus.
No, no.
And I learned, like I said, so that was funny
was to watch if there's one tape I have,
I just have to get it transferred to like,
digital or whatever.
Cause it's just got one set of each,
was all I could find.
It's Breakout is on there, you know, Breakout, right?
Ty Jamison calls himself 30 different things.
He was a regular there at the time.
Breakout's all right.
The names are good.
Woo!
The names are great.
I remember the first time I went there,
and I was like, everybody had a name and an intro
song.
I'm like, I gotta step my game up.
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Sure, do it. Hold on take take us back not to cut you off. So you're 19
Is that the first place is the Lafayette the first place you did stand up?
Is that where you started? Yep, and the first place, is the LaFest the first place you did stand up?
Is that where you started?
Yep.
And where are you living at the time?
I was in a South Jersey.
In your parents, with your mom.
What's the car you're taking?
Um.
Your car or their car?
In the beginning it was probably there sometimes.
And then I got one, ultimately a shitty $800 car or whatever and
So no, I would do I had a car which was always a big thing too It's actually when we started going to big thing as a young comic you all you can be an opener because you gotta
When we started going to like like even New York and stuff was like, okay, I can drive
I can get a huge thing big big deal. So like
That's why we drive in who do you meet the first day when you show up?
So your first
open mic is at the laugh.
My first thing was someone suggested that I try comedy. My
friend Jamie. And she was like, you know, we caught up like if
I moved senior year, so we'd lost touch not lost type, you
know, we didn't see each other for you. She moved to Jersey
afterwards. And we had dinner and she was like senior years a
tough look.
You are the best.
It was tough. Senior year move sucked tough look, dude. You are the best. It was tough.
Senior year move sucked.
Oh, I think I told them the last time too, because that was when they were like,
Hey, we want you to go to the dance with this girl.
Like, so you can come to the school dance of the school you were at.
Sure, you can go attend the old dance.
It was a nerd girl.
But, she shows up that night for the prom.
I go to her house to go get her with all the people and stuff.
And she is stunning.
Knockout.
I think the movie.
I don't know why.
I'm a virgin who probably at this point
hasn't really made out with chicks even much yet
or anything.
Pretty inexperienced as far as that goes.
That's me now.
And I think that night after the dance, the junior prom
or whatever
it was, I was like, you know, I was like, hey, I told her, her friend, I was like, yeah,
let her know, like, I'm down. Like, I'll do it. And they were like, she's not interested
in that at all. Like, oh, okay. She just needed a ride. I can do 10 minutes clean if you need
me. I'll get you to the prom and back.
So my friend Jamie suggested we went to dinner one night
and she was like, oh, I thought you would always try comedy.
You were so funny.
And I didn't, they never even batted around my mind
like what you would do to start comedy.
I just knew comedy.
I knew what comedy was.
But I'm like, these people are on TV.
So I don't know what's the grassroots of that.
What's the first step?
And I'd know, and my friend Ernie the next day was like, come with me.
Man, you're cast a character. My friend Ernie.
Ernie was the guy who was dating the girl.
Ernie's not alive, is he?
Ernie? Yeah. Ernie's alive. He's like a musclehead kind of guy.
But Ernie was the one that got me, he's like, my girlfriend's dad works driving escorts and stuff.
So that's what got me the job doing that.
But Ernie goes, you want to come to South Street to buy a sneaker. I'm gonna get some sneakers
Okay, sure. I'll take a ride and I just never noticed all those years. I just never noticed that comedy
There was a comedy. I just happened to see that sign for the Laugh House
I remember the sign too and it was like, you know, who was gonna said Thursday nights open mic blaze and Thursdays blaze and I
And I went in it was open and I'm so funny
I forget her name now
but like it was the girl at the front desk who I knew forever after that point, you know and
Real pretty and I was just gonna I was like, what's the open mic and it's like Thursday's starts at 7 o'clock
You have to be here to sign up before that or whatever and I was like anyone can just sign. She's like, yeah
So I was like, oh cool. And then I went
Thursday might have been Wednesday's at that point, but whatever it was it was I
Went four in a row and just chickened out no shit
Yeah, wait went there didn't sign up did sign up and then
To Ray would come over to me and be like all right big guy like you're next and I'd go I
And then the fourth week that's fourth week the fourth week that I didn't go on I
Said no no and then he going on stage anyway, and he goes now. Do you're doing this you're here again?
He's like you're going what and I went I went a dude
I'm not going on and then he called my name, and I didn't go on I was like what now I was like
Oh my god, and then the next week. I was like I'm gonna bring friends. I told no friends to come
I didn't tell anybody about it. I was gonna do it
I was like let me bring people if they pay their five bucks to get in I have to go up
I'm now pressured to go. I was already think of that hindsight
I was like look if these guys will come up off of five smackers dude. I am now I'm out forced. I'm out 15
They didn't give you comps. I figured they give you come There could be no Big Jay Okerson for 20 bucks. That's crazy.
For 20 bucks there could be no Big Jay.
If I just want to give you a kiss, you know guys, here everyone take the money back. I'm sorry.
Round the drinks on me, I'll eat shit. And I went up the first night and I did well.
I don't remember what the jokes were at all.
But I did pretty well. And I said to go back to those times with the, I was saying the video I wish I had,
it's what I learned, my first set was good,
then I went up next week.
I also thought you had to write a new five minutes
every time you got on stage.
Well not even five, three minutes it was in the beginning.
Which felt like forever.
Yeah, a week.
I always say that's one of my favorite things,
like so funny how long you need
to kind of get comfortable on stage as you move through this or whatever. But I'm saying nobody's one of my favorite things. So funny how long you need to get comfortable on stage
as you move through this or whatever.
But I'm saying, no, but I'm saying when you get on now,
not comfortable is wrong, but take a second
to warm into it and stuff what you're doing.
I didn't know any of that, so I would go up there
and just, I said a new five minutes every week, I thought,
for sure, and I was holding myself to it.
And then adding more and more. I was just learning I was like oh like they seem to like it if
I really yell that punchline the only thing I didn't do was pick up the
vernacular I always just cut talk the way I talked but I mean how much I was
mimicking which what I did a lot when I was a young comic too and I would see
somebody I liked that was kind of almost like I don't know I guess probably on purpose, but not like
But even like the you know
Like the Mike hold or the whatever the fucking thing right? Yeah, so it's like this tape what I love about my set on it
That I have is sleeveless shirt. Oh my god Malone sport, which is a big and tall brand
sleeveless shirt. Oh my God. Malone Sport, which is a big and tall brand. That's so that's the that's the incarnation of Jay
Okerson at this time when you when you first got there. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. So what would you what would you categorize that
as? Like style? This wasn't the hip hop Jay Okerson. No, this is
hip hop. This is hip hop. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's the
benefit I had over Kurt
Kurt was a Leaps and bounds world's better writer of Joe's dress normal than he was but he was in just a coral Malone Jersey
He comes up by the way Malone sport big and tall
but hey, uh and Kurt would go up there and like
have these great jokes and
Like it was just didn't matter because like
he would get up there right away and then he'd go,
look at his khaki pants wearing goofy motherfucker.
And then Kurt would just be like, so hey guys.
The boy's scouts.
I was walking down the street the other day.
Yeah, the scouts are firing guys for being gay.
And they're just going to his joke.
And he had such good jokes.
But they just wouldn't, and this one said I have a Kurt
that's great is he's going,
and it's actually not a bad set.
The joke's doing well, but you just see his thing.
He's just frozen in place, telling his jokes.
And we've been at this club 4,000 times at this point,
and he asks after every punchline that goes good,
he's hoping the God that's his out.
So he asks if the light is for him after every single,
any light.
Talk about looking for a club.
There was the red light direct center.
You knew what the light was, but he would go, he goes,
hey, why do the cab drivers always
smell like they're wearing the same cologne?
Calvin Klein's hoagie.
And then they would laugh.
And then he'd go, is that for me?
Is that it?
Guys, can we wrap this up?
Somebody lighten a cigarette in the back.
Oh, keep going.
OK, I'll keep going.
And then he would just start his next joke.
And then after that joke, is that what?
Another one? OK, I'll do no me. I am
Chris Rock bring the pain work walking the stage
Pacing and this motherfucker right here and this guy right here and oh man this guy right here goes
You know you're gonna fuck that bitch later
You know you about to fuck that bitch like if a bitch is gonna fuck you she let you know by doing
I'm just doing like all did you ever use the stool as a telephone?
No, never telephone.
That's a good move.
That is a good move.
What?
Never telephone.
That's a home run right there.
But I fucked it so much.
I fucked it.
I did a lot of sassy head movement.
It was so many misdirections.
It's all you have is like the most basic level of comedy.
And what year is this?
99.
99?
That's when I started, yeah.
So, and then my first show.
Jesus.
My first show away from the Laugh House,
Toure says to me.
Now, were you doing any rooms of white people at the time?
No, I didn't even know what the.
That didn't even.
You're just doing the Laugh House.
Also, I was like, where else do you go?
Like, you're not picking up like, oh is so and so after like you know a year
or so there are shows in Philly back then so I wasn't in that circle I didn't
know the scar Patty I didn't know you didn't know that I didn't know the
comedy works scar Patty Andy scar Patty there used to be eight comedy works the
what the and Paul something I was like I was no they're not comedy or comedy
cabaret yeah we were gonna ask you about that did you ever do the Northeast Room to be eight comedy works. And Paul something, I was like, I was like. No, they're not comedy works. Comedy cabarets.
Yeah, comedy cabarets.
We were trying to ask you about that.
Did you ever do the Northeast Room on the Boulevard?
That's what was funny was,
then we started figuring out, oh, there is some play.
Doc Watson's had like a mainstream open mic
that I would go do.
Now what was funny was, we do that first year,
we're just doing black shows.
And who's the crew?
Me, Curt and Kev.
And did you guys meet there?
Yeah, I started three weeks later.
It's three weeks later, Kevin started.
And then me and him became kind of immediate friends.
And then Kurt started like three weeks after that.
Oh, like a few weeks after each other.
This is 1999.
1999.
And yeah, so weird.
And then Kurt, what's funny is Kurt had these jokes.
So when Kurt got to, we're doing a year of this black club
where Kurt's struggling and I'm learning
how to do pretty well.
His jokes are great.
It's like swinging with two bats.
This isn't taking away from Kurt.
The jokes are so brilliant.
Yeah, of course.
Especially for his age and he's learning
how to perform a little bit more and stuff.
I always say the most saving grace for Kurt,
I remember this vividly. I mean the week before I met Keith
I don't think it's exaggerating by much before I met Keith Robinson
It was like kind of the catalyst to get me and of course OJ Keith me Keith and or me
Kurt and Kevin all up to New York, right?
He was the kind of guy who pulls out a week before that
Kurt got to the Laugh House one night and was Tommy goes, he goes, I'm gonna try this new thing tonight.
And he goes, and I swear the wording was,
you know when you're taking a doo-doo in the bathroom
and you hope nobody notices your shoes?
Cause they know they're gonna notice,
and it's just like, and I was like, doo-doo?
I go, oh no, Kurt, you're starting to,
like you're starting to waver on what you're,
I'm like, I'm already doing what you're doing.
I'm already doing this, like don't do what I'm doing.
Cause I'm going up there, I'm already like what you're doing. I'm a lost soul. I'm already doing this, like don't do what I'm doing. Cause I'm going up there, I'm already like,
DJ, put that song on again,
I would slap my mama to this fucking song.
I'm doing all this.
You're doing that?
Yes.
Oh, Jesus.
I was trying to steal you.
You got a paint leg rolled up?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all my jeans too.
Yeah.
It was, yeah, I went for it.
I did, one time I wore a Warwick Dunn jersey
and some wide receiver gloves.
Wait, what? Yeah, I'm time I wore a Warwick Dunn jersey and some wide receiver gloves
It was so wide receiver gloves gears hot dude gears hot gear is dope That was a hell of a set. Take the snaps off. You're still wearing gloves.
Gatorade bottle.
Hold on a second.
Okay, now we're getting into it.
Sure.
So you went to a sporting goods store and said, give me a pair
of wide receiver gloves.
Yeah.
And you wore them.
Models.
Gotta go to Models.
Well, Models before women knew things about sports at all, Yeah, and you was a model models Well mode does before
women knew things about sports at all you go to Models and
Go get a $350 real Eagles jersey the highest level stuff switch tags and bring it to a girl
They don't know they're like wow these Jordans are only five bucks and you're like crazy right this store is the best
That's I mean you
that's next level dirt back yeah yeah yeah a little label switching well we
used to go my friend figured out they worked at a drugstore and they had a
shrink wrapper and they had a machine that can open up Sega Genesis games the
actual cartridge and take out the chip itself. Wait, what?
Wait, the cartridge?
So you know the Genesis cartridge, right?
Yeah, sure.
There's these screws, the special thing you can do.
Yes, and the back.
And you can take it out.
So it comes in half.
And it comes in half, and you just take out like the chip.
The game.
The game is a chip, yeah.
No plastic around it.
And then put the plastic back, put it back in the case,
shrink wrap it at work, and then bring it back to Toys R Us
and just get money back or whatever.
It was-
That's not bad.
Crazy scam.
It's a good scam.
How would you play the game though?
It could just plug in, but it didn't have like,
it didn't say whatever.
It didn't say, yeah, it just looked like a bunch of,
it looked like a micro, like an SD card almost,
but like this big and you have to like,
push it to the top.
Yeah, put it in the top and just play NBA jams.
So we, oh, so what I the top and just play NBA jams.
Oh, so what I was dressing like was just everything I saw. This was coming off of,
it's a very interesting time in comedy that I came in.
Very.
Because it was coming right off of,
but still very popular, was Def Jam style comedy.
Of course.
Black comedy was the boom at that point.
Comic view was doing numbers.
Huge, yeah.
Def Jam was killing, making stars out of these guys.
I mean, Chris Tucker, all those people came out of depth.
So that was a thing.
So everybody murder.
I knew enough to be self-deprecating.
That's all I really had to keep him on my side.
But it's still like, you know, and if you're
going to be in a bitch's pussy, you got to be in it all.
You know, it's like a braggadocious.
It's what the rap was the time. Everything's like, I got money. I get pussy. I'm rich blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, it's like a braggadocious, it's what the rap was at the time.
Everything's like, I got money, I get pussy,
I'm rich, I blah, blah, blah.
Are you and Kurt the only two white dudes
floating around in there?
No, there was a magician who bombed a lot.
There was a couple, do you know Rocco Stowe, Brian Stowe?
No.
The legendary wit is floating around in there, right?
The legendary wit came, I mean,
he was obviously a comic much longer than I was,
but his come to the Laugh House was in the middle of my time there
I was already there for a while
Here is him. He's like out in LA or Vegas and you know kind of burnout and came back
Problems probably and all kinds of shit very funny prop comic. Yeah, the folks are a great dude
Oh, that's nice. Hey, Ray, dude. He would be doing bulls actual name Michael Baldwin
That fucking crazy's a Baldwin
Did he if you were doing bad or he didn't like he cuz at one point why we came up or when I started?
Doing the mic there he was running the mic the legendary wood was running the mic and if he didn't have a light
He would just wait okay, and if you didn't like the bitch you were doing okay, okay?
That's what's interesting about this to us is so,
so we started 2008, 2009, 2011, whatever,
somewhere around that time.
You guys were like,
I had seen you on TV on Bad Boys of Comedy.
That was my introduction to you.
Yeah, Bad Boys of Comedy.
I'm a crazy motherfucker.
2008. You know, what the fuck was me?
Or a little earlier than that, I did Premium Blend,. I think was my first thing I did on Comedy Central
Premium blend wearing a button down oversized button down shirt. I don't know if I remember that. Oh you see it
It exists somewhere
The fashion choices the fashion and I said just getting that in that black like world like that. I was so
And I said, just getting in that black world like that, I was so dialed into that.
You know what I mean?
Because I could be self-deprecating,
but in my mind I was like, yeah,
hoodie under a football jersey.
It was just all about looking awesome and hip hop-y
at the time.
And my jokes were just, like I said,
simple misdirections, whatever.
They kind of went nowhere.
And then I started doing the,
that's when I started taking my clothes off on stage,
down to my underwear.
What?
I've heard about this.
On a bodybuilding joke.
I would do, my stepfather was a power lifter,
or was, I guess, a power lifter,
and competitive, and he was always,
and his friends that, when he started coming around,
were always other power lifters,
by just these monster dudes and everything,
so it's always like lifting weight stuff.
And I made a joke about bodybuilders, where I would, you know, I'd say, I go, man, my stuff, it was three minutes. So you got three minutes that you got music cues?
2001 Space Odyssey.
Yeah, da da, boom boom.
Musical cues.
So that musical cues...
Oh yeah.
Musical cues out the ass.
You're looking at the DJ.
Try to keep up, will you?
I'm killing up here.
DJ, if you make me say hit it one more time.
How many weeks we got to do the same three minutes?
Did you ever own any football jerseys that weren't football jerseys like they were like a FUBU on or something? Yeah
Or like a non actual team FUBU baseball jersey. Oh, I didn't even know they made those.
Now where you put the wide receiver gloves?
I would have. Like Ken Griffey Jr. out there. They were batting gloves.
I tell you this for the sake of the look almost when we went to see Limp Bizkit a couple weeks ago,
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We were gonna see Corey Feldman.
But seeing what I was gonna wear,
we got on the Fully Loaded Tour this year.
We went to a minor league stadium,
they gave us batting gloves, and I put them on,
I came up to Christine, and I was like,
what do you think?
And she goes, what are you doing?
I go, that's the look, the thing, it's the time. And she was like on I came out to Christine and I was like What are you doing? I'll go that's like with the look of the thing. It's took the time and she was like I
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But uh, yeah, the clothes was great. So I start taking the
clothes off
It goes how long into the comedy. What is the bit? So I'd go my step. There was no set It was just cuz I knew it when I got undressed how long into comedy is this a?
Year and you're just
Don't want a couple of spots a week at the Laugh House
Laugh House, you know, I would go up now We learned at that point probably you could do Wednesday nights open mics a little stress factory
We drove to Doc Watson's. I'll drive up to the stress. I was saying before the way when they fast how much they loved Kurt at
Like that's they're like, oh that Northeast
Cabaret best Western has an open mic and that was my first thing. I'm like, oh, this is what open mic is.
It's like five comics and two people who wandered
into a bar sitting there now.
I go, oh, because it's a test.
The Laugh House is a bad gauge for you.
It's sold out.
Yeah, those shows were hot.
DJ, like everything is like, if you kill,
you were like, I just murdered at a show.
You couldn't murder at the Comedy Cabaret.
No one's ever murdered at the Comedy Cabaret.
It was other comics going,
mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
There was a comic who took to me, I think, Jerry Torres.
I remember if you remember him at all.
And he would just always talk about his friend, Ant-Man.
He goes, oh, my boy, Ant-Man?
Up in New York?
It was always like the stories of New York.
And then finally, Ant-Man's not like a heavily working
comic in New York.
But it was, yeah.
Very, very nice guys, both of them.
But it was just so funny. No one knew what the next step was.
Sure.
It's an interesting thing.
And yeah, so taking the bodybuilding would start,
I'd say, this is so gay.
And then I'd almost be possessed by the music.
And da, da, da, da, da, da, shirt would come off.
I can hear the, oh, I can hear it.
Not even all.
I'm telling you on a general basis,
that shirt comes off, they were like, oh, oh can hear it. Not even all. I'm telling you on a general basis, that shirt comes off, they were like, oh!
They were getting excited for this.
And then I would turn around and start undoing my pants
to drop down to expose that every week that I did,
every show I did comedy, I had to prepare
by all night long wearing,
for some reason my stepfather had in his drawer
zebra print, like bikini underwear.
His. What the fuck? Strange look. I never saw him wear them. He wasn't wearing them in public.
I did. So I put these panties on and then I started to turn around.
The life of the comic. So I put my panties on. I told the DJ to hit it.
This is getting ready every time they go to the laugh house.
Putting that on, yeah, for sure.
And then.
Wait, hold on.
You didn't have this when you started.
Not like the four times you didn't show up,
you had the zebra panties on.
No, no, no, no.
No, this was like.
Guys, not today.
This was like a year being in
and realizing you're like,
I'm watching other people.
It's showmanship.
There's people who have like,
Michael Blackson's big closing joke
at the end of his thing that was funny was he would go,
he was like, I got a, he goes, I'm black as shit.
And he's like, and here's my, he always had this,
the X-ray sonogram.
And he goes, this is my son.
It's just like two white eyes and a black piece of paper.
And he goes, this all dick.
And then he unfolded, he goes, more dick.
And he just keep unfolding it. He makes me laugh keep on for me the first time I saw that my fucking head almost
Exploded so people had things like that
Breakout like I break house time we like take out your hip-hop Bibles
And he would just preach the words of a rap song to Ray did the hip-hop breakdown he called it where whatever
popular rap,
I remember it being like,
I got a story to tell by Biggie.
And then go through the locker room.
And then he'd be like, he's like,
now he's saying, now he's saying,
put the bag over your head, you know,
and he's just so charismatic.
He had a fucking kill.
He is a murderer.
Yeah, it would kill, it would just destroy,
so everyone had these bits where I was like,
what's gonna be my closing thing?
And so.
My dad's underwear.
When I would.
Let me throw my dad's underwear.
And I'm turning around and I would unbutton these pants
and I would, you know, the second,
da-da, pants down, I mean the room,
fall in the pieces like, they're laughing so hard,
it felt so good.
And then I would turn around and I would pose it out, da-da, da-da, and I'd be like this. and I'm like, oh, this is what you're chasing in comedy. You're chasing that high. You can almost stand there like this afterwards.
Just be like.
Bathe in it.
Bathe me in your happiness and your joy and admiration.
And then I met, I guess like a little while later down the road, I met Keith Robinson.
And what it was, I was going to quit comedy.
No one knew.
Taking my zebra pants and going home.
I was going to go.
With the underwear bit?
What are you, nuts?
You know what it was?
I just saw such a ceiling
and I didn't know what the next thing was.
Sure.
And I was just like, oh, I go maybe I should like,
not that I'll never do it again,
but I was just like, I should figure out school
or something or a job or something, I guess.
So you're driving in from your parents' house every day?
Or every time there was a show?
Every time, yeah.
A couple times a week.
Would you meet up with the boys beforehand?
Yeah, my grab where you hit her didn't drive so I'd grab Kurt
Yeah, me me curtain cav were kind of like the people now no boozing at all really I was driving always
Yeah, not even at that point man not even like cigarettes or weed or anything really so weird I know and
And so yeah, you're a 22 year old kid, 2020, yeah, it's crazy.
So I met a, so I said I'm gonna stop doing comedy
and I go, my next door neighbor had an inn,
she was like an executive at Cutco.
The knives.
The knives, door to door knives.
That was big.
And she was like, oh yeah, I can get you three days
of training and then you can do the job and whatever,
it's like until you get back to school or whatever. And I was like, yeah okay, like jobs, jobs, I can get you three days of training and then you can do the job and whatever It's like until you get back on whatever and I was like
Yeah, okay like jobs job sure and I went to two days of the three days of training and on the third day
Like in the early afternoon. I got a call from Mike blacks and it was like hey you want to do a gig tonight and
I guess Mike didn't hear I've retired
I guess word hasn't spread yet
I'm like but just like it was a good thing too. I mean as soon as he said it I was like yes I do want to do it
It was also rare that I would get a call like that from Mike and Mike not that Mike was famous baby
Not that Mike was famous but big enough in the world of course. That's the thing. I mean I started hanging out with him
He might as well be Jerry Seinfeld. He was's doing well, got a lot of cash, could need
a set of steak knives. Never know, dude. Never know. Two birds one stone. But he goes, do
you want to do this gig night? I was like, yeah, sure. And then he goes, go to the Philadelphia
airport. There's a ticket waiting for you to go to Minneapolis. No shit. And it was a show. Atlantic City. It was a show that we were gonna do for,
you're performing for, it was like an after party
for the Minnesota Timberwolves something.
So like Bobby Jackson, there was a couple
of cool players. That can't be good.
No Kevin Garnett, and he was still there at the time.
But it was like, and it's essentially a dinner,
like theater type looking place.
And I go to the airport and the other comic,
there's Keith Robinson, who I'd never met before.
And he was like, he's like,
I seen you around the laugh house and blah, blah.
And then on the flight out,
we weren't sitting near each other.
And there was an empty seat next to him.
So he came up and he was like, young fella,
come back here and talk.
And I'm just kinda like, I don't know who Keith is.
And so he just gave me these things and he's talking,
we're getting ready to go do a black show
in the black circuit.
He's telling me about New York
and all these, saying all these names.
And I am so eye-rolly about it.
It's so funny, I was like,
I think Jim Brewer's premium blend or something
came out recently.
I thought he had like a pretty good set on that.
I was like, man, Jim Brewer's thing was pretty funny.
I might start looking at some more of his stuff.
And he goes, ah, Jimmy stinks.
Like doing a lot of that familiarity shit.
Sure.
Next time I see Colin Quinn,
I'm gonna punch him in the face
just because you said you think he's funny or whatever.
And you're like, okay, dude.
Okay, old man.
And then we go do the show inside.
And I'm, Keith's closing obviously.
And I'm like, DJ, blah, blah, blah.
And you know, hit that on one more time. And you know a bitch can't do nothing in a club without
blah blah blah and then oh that's the light hey guys bodybuilding's gay right
and then taking my clothes off murders it's murdering murders I knew so much
better how to do main black clubs in a mainstream room a mainstream room I
wasn't like oblivious. What was going on?
I knew I was a good perf but getting better at performing and controlling nothing on jokes
So if it was something where I wasn't prepared when we came to New York eventually you're in front of the Timberwolves
This is like a corporate gig. No, no, no, it's a party. Okay, it's like a corporate king
No, no, just the Timberwolves are gonna be there selling cutco knives you think he's booking corporates which by the way fuck buddy I if the odds
of living next to a rep from cutco yeah is only you dude yeah that is that is
money's in the licensure he was wetting her beak on whatever product he was
moving I had an in with Cutco.
Well, I will tell you what's interesting is we have a huge fan who comes out whenever
we're, I think he's a California guy, but he comes to Skankfest every year and I have
a whole collection.
He's one of the makers.
He makes Cutco knives.
I think he's involved in the process of making them.
So me and Christine have so many, I mean, beautiful individual box.
He's such a dirt back individual box
It's got the Legion of skanks logo on like a bagel knife
Well it cuts and spreads you see
It's got spatula qualities while being able to cut I mean dude you got the best of both worlds
You're you're a famous comedian and you got the cut.
I still got the cut.
I can see you cutting a nail.
He's got a shoe.
They're right through it.
Day two of training. Great day of training.
The first thing that you cut through a shoe and a tomato.
Still cut tomato.
Now, listen, you think it's not going to be delicate enough to cut a tomato.
You're wrong. You're wrong. see how it cuts right through these wide receiver
Shit I've left my I must have left my kit in the car while here
Sales a sale hey guys
I'm gonna cut these gloves in him you almost left it all behind for a career with cut co if it wasn't for Michael
Blackston and then meeting Keith Robinson
to go do a show that night for the Minnesota Timberwolves and and so that
night so what happened was Keith went up after me only in comedy would you get a
call at a cut code training program be like you got to be in Minneapolis you're
performing for some of the Timberwolves I'm looking at a leather strap and a
practice knife and I'm like, what
the fuck am I doing, man? This isn't the dream. Turn this bus around. For everybody out there,
as a young comedian, you get a call and say there's a ticket waiting for you at the fucking
airport. My first time flying for comedy. You made it. I remember my first time, I went,
oh my God, I'm gonna fly for Compass.
Actually, I felt you couldn't tell me shit
and I had a layover and I got there, I had no money
and I had to text my brother to fucking put a hundred bucks
in my bank account.
The fact that someone else was paying for it.
My first flight ever was, well Michael Blackson always,
and I heard this was not until a weirdly not long time ago.
Michael Blackson always had his name stay on as an employee at Philadelphia International Airport. So he always flew for free. I don't say he's a buddy passes
So that's what it was why me and Keith weren't sitting together
This wasn't paid for by the gig Mike Blackson has a buddy goes
There's a middle seat here and a seat over here and you guys can sit in there. I respect that. Oh, yeah, it's great
Great. I'll save a hundred thousand dollars moving and easy and easy. So me and you gather, I do my set, I
take my clothes off at the end murders. Keith goes up there and
has a good set. It's good. But it's like I'm watching people
who like your clothes back or going he knows Colin Quinn.
Right? Okay, buddy, buddy. Afterwards, after the show,
zebra underwear. Now Keith takes me and sits me down, you know, he's ten years older than me
Whatever and he sits me down. He's like, all right young fella. He goes he goes I'm listen man
He goes I gotta get you up in New York man. He goes you're funny kid, but like
He's like you got bad habits and he's like give me all like negative not negative but just like you're like you're funny
You're like your underwear off
You're funny you're funny like your underwear off
The class act it's uh, yeah, this is the art of burlesque I'm not some fuck. I'm not hanging hog in front of a bunch of fucking basketball players
So
It's uh
Keith does funny. He said he goes you got a lot of bad habits and blah,
and then he goes, you gotta, he goes,
take it off your clothes at the end of your set,
like what, and all I'm reading from this,
honestly, is I'm like, well, he's jealous.
Yeah, clearly, this guy wants to be me.
I'm like, he's a Black Circuit comic
who hasn't figured out Black Circuit comedy yet, dude.
You gotta go big.
It's not so subtle, man.
Yeah, you can't just sit there doing well-written jokes you idiot what are you doing man like where's
your part where's your big part so let me tell you a little bit of something
about showmanship yeah yeah so I remember going outside and calling up the
store once by the way while I remember there was there's a lot of these shows
would have
a big airbrushed backdrop of something
to take pictures in front of
with a professional photographer.
And Keith's speech about like, I gotta stop doing that
and stop taking a close up because it's not,
they're just laughing at fat guy in his underwear.
He goes, you're not saying, it's not really being a comic.
He's giving me a good advice.
And I'm like, yeah, if you'll excuse me for a second,
these two morbidly obese black women
want to take a picture with me in front of an airbrushed picture of Tupac making West
Coast fingers.
I gotta go.
So I'll be right back.
Hold that thought, please.
I'll be fine, okay?
And then I went outside, smoked a cigarette.
I didn't even smoke a cigarette.
I don't know if I smoked it, but I think I did.
But I went outside and I was like, I called Kev, Kevin Hart, and I was like, hey, I go,
I'm out here doing a show with this guy, Keith Robinson.
Ever heard of this? No, at all.
I swear to you, I was like, I go,
he's in there giving me this advice
on don't do the bodybuilding bit and all this stuff.
I go, I'm up there killing, and he's like doing, he did fine.
And then Kev goes, I've actually talked to that guy
at the Laugh House for, he goes,
I think he's like real deal, like in New York scene.
And he goes, we should like go up,
we should take his offer.
And I was like, yeah.
And then we went up with him,
and the first night we came to New York,
he got us auditioned at New York Comedy Club.
No shit.
Yeah.
Comedy guru.
It was like, yeah, I remember me and Kev always said.
Like a sherpa.
Keith always says that to us, he remembers that night,
like he got us both.
No, I'm sorry, he got me on at New York Comedy Club,
he got Kevin on at Gotham,
and then we went up to the comic strip,
and without doing, used to have to stand outside
for this lottery.
He went in and was the only guy.
He goes, hey, give these guys two dates for the lottery.
And he's like, you remember just kept like jumping up
like a Super Bowl hug I did with him.
So we were like, you know, this is,
cause it was all overnight.
You were like, oh, here's the other world of this.
It's not just this like insulated thing that I've been in.
And it was pretty fun. You're rolling your eyes out on the plane. But he gets this. Yeah, it's not just this like insulated thing that I've been in and it was rolling your eyes
I'm on the plane, but he gets me. Okay, buddy. Absolutely. He gets me to stop
So now I'm like our keys like our guru sure. So alright, I better drop that stupid bodybuilding bit
So what I do the next week I'm just you hanging it up in a panicking on bailing on this bit
That's like my big closer and it's been even if I have new jokes here in there
Is this in Philly you're back in Philly or is this new? You're back in Philly. Back in Philly. Got the underwear on
No, but now I'm not doing it now. You're not doing it. Because Keith told me not to do it
And then I have a couple sets for him. You still put them on in case you get jammed up
In case you're you know in case you're in a plan, dude. I walked from it completely. And then, um.
Did you give them to somebody?
No. Back to his dad.
Take these. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here. Those things are back in your drawer.
Also, only. Like Mean Joe Green.
You're the only dude who would find,
you're 20 years old, you find leopard print underwear
or zebra print underwear in your dad's drawer
and not be like, what the fuck is my dad?
Until you're like, oh, I gotta, I gotta wear these.
Yeah, Step Pop Joe, dude.
Guy had a huge hog and like to show it.
Respect. I would say, Joe.
So we get back.
Oh, yes. So the first week
or a couple of weeks ago, and I'm not doing the bodybuilding bit.
And I'm just like, I feel like there's like
it's like blue balls, you know, I mean, like, where's my big fucking?
I don't have like a big crescendo.
Yeah. So I go, all right. Well, Keith Keith said don't take my clothes off and blah blah blah
So let me figure out my new thing is gonna be this happened once I remember this shirt
I was wearing a red shirt. I had from big until funny how that's a rebond
I know is a Reebok shirts. I wore it a lot. It's like I like the way I fit those Reebok big and tall shirts
It's a little bit loose. Yeah Yeah. And had a nice tight neck, which means a lot. And
sometimes they were too the collar would be too thick. Yeah,
like you were in a mock turtle. thing be choking you out. So this
is what I planned. I go, okay, here's my new bit I'm going to
do. This is wild. So I show up to the show that again, my prep
for the show was to take a piece of just string and
put it around my neck and
Tape it right above my nipples
just tape it down with with scotch tape and
Then leave a little leave like another inch or two of string hanging and I had my shirt on what I packed in my bag
Was I made two?
I don't even know where this is going,
dude. It's I made two this big easy tin foil rings. And and
before I went on stage, so dumb, I tied them to the the rings to
the edge of the thing. So it looks like I was dumb giant
nipple rings.
And I do a comedy set now standing, you know, like this.
Sure, you don't want to. I'm trying to bury the Lee. Exactly. So I'm
like doing my set like this. Step on your punch.
And I just know I need a closer now. So after I do my last joke, this joke, and you know,
you get the light and go, oh, well, guys, by the way, I just got a new piercing. What
do you think? Is it too much? That's all. That was the setup just to go so I'm like hey look at my fat body and laugh again
Oh my
underwear it didn't do very good and I never did it again, but
Then so the the ending of the of the getting the bodybuilding story goes
that a
Couple months later or something
I'm in a I get into the, like Def Jam was doing a contest,
and if you won, you got to go to St. Louis
to open a big show they were doing.
And me and Toure, through the course of a few weeks,
came down, we were the finals.
Me versus Toure, which is very, for me,
I'm like, well, I'm going to lose.
I'm like, this guy's so much better in season than me.
I'm like, I'm not ready for this.
A killer.
And then they go, and also the finals
is not going to be at like Blaze and Thursdays
where you're comfortable.
It's going to be on a Friday or Saturday,
their actual regular weekend headliner show.
And me and Ture will do five minutes a piece
on one of those shows for the finals.
And neither one of you had done the weekend shows?
Ture has, yeah.
Ture was hosting on weekends and featuring.
But you weren't.
No, not me.
Wow.
Maybe hosting a little bit, but like, no,
not featuring yet for sure.
Okay.
And I was very nervous going against Ture.
So I'm telling the other open micers, I'm like,
yeah, that's the thing, I'm bringing back
the bodybuilding bit.
And they're even going, Jay, it's not fair.
Like it's not, you can't. Can't kill the guy. You can't do this Jay it's not fair like it's not
you can't kill the guy you can't do this it's not fair to do that he's got kids
man yeah I go hey man I'm going business he goes it's Def Jam I'm taking this
thing and I'm going to st. Louis so I go off there I'm going to st. Louis I'm
gonna make it to st. Louis st St. Louis, here we come.
Not Hollywood.
And I did a, I went up on stage,
and again, it's a weekend night, so it's like,
this is like, people paid like, you know,
whatever, $20 to get 25 hours of sleep.
Sure, it's an expensive night out.
Yeah.
You had to be funny on those weekend shows
at the Laugh House, they worked all week.
And it wasn't gonna, unless you had,
I forget what the headliner was,
but just whatever it was, it wasn't someone like super hip hoppy young like the crowd was a little bit older
You know to me at least you know like 30s 40s or something and it wasn't this young hip-hop crowd
And I was like oh shit Paula Poundstone, and then
To write I went up first I drew this short straw and I went first so host and then host says
Oh, we're just contest you guys gonna do five minutes, and I'm going up there and I went first, so host and then host says, hey, we're doing this contest, you guys gonna do five minutes?
And I'm going up there and my jokes are eating shit.
Because I also don't have jokes ready
for this kind of situation yet.
I'm not adapting still.
I'm like, yo, you know when you talk
to a little bitch up in the club?
And then they're like, what?
You gotta work in the morning, man.
Yeah, but with a little bitch in the club.
I'm here with my wife, you piece of shit.
I'm an orthodontist.
Yeah. You black ass hood motherfuckers knowing hood what I'm tenured at University of Pennsylvania
And I'm like so my jokes are eating shit and I remember saying
To myself has come to the I'm like, I'm like, you know a dude just bail on like we're gonna lose
We're not gonna say
Worst case scenario, let's keep a little dignity still got the knives and we won't do the bit Sure, and then just autopilot kicks and you know and you go myself. Are you saying all these bodybuilders?
What a gay blah blah blah bodybuilding so stupid and gay
Dan Dan, I'm like, oh shit.
And I'm like, wow, here we go.
This always kills at least.
Dan, Dan.
Shirt comes off.
And I mean, crushing silence from the audience
and just hearing people go like, oh, oh God.
You're like the receipt printer going.
And then, we just had dinner.
Yeah, they're eating dinner currently.
We're the first thing.
Yeah, they're still getting their first drink
Yeah, I'm reading a buck the fuck wild meatballs. Oh, huh. So shut up the buck. I'm turning around
And I'm unbuttoning my belt. I mean I'm taking my belt and I'm as I'm doing I'm saying I'm like having a crisis inside
I'm going you could stop now and just bail on this and be like, thank you guys. That's like, all right, that's it
Yeah, you know, haha, my shirt off cut go. I took my shirt off and don't do it but just and I put pull my
pants down forgot the underwear and they go and by the way I know Kurt's in the
back Metzger's in the back watching this,
probably having such a ball watching me does not go well.
Buddy.
And then I go, so then I dropped the pants
on the, and you just hear someone like,
Jesus Christ.
Good Lord.
Like what the fuck?
And then when that music stops,
My word.
When that music stops and I'm standing like this,
and I said, just forever when that happened,
it never was a time that I can remember where this laughter wasn't so bomb bad like flying and hitting each other
Everyone's laughing so hard that you just you know grab the you got time to close out
But you grab the pay you grab the belt of the pants and hike them up for a say you
You know, I'm big Jay everybody. Thank you. Good night
You know you walk off and button the button you can and you know, people are high-fiving
I'm just used to that being the situation.
Dude, definitely, when that stops,
and I'm standing there like this, looking up,
in underwear, and my pants down,
and dead silence in the room,
and you just hear a big fat black lead in the back,
goes, what the fuck just happened?
And I was like, and then I kept missing my pants,
like going for the grab, and it just took forever, and I just walked, and then I kept missing my pants, like going for the grab.
And it just took forever.
And I just walked on, and then T-Ray just went up
and just had a smooth five minutes.
So I was like, oh, that's the whole thing.
So I never did that.
That was the last time I did it.
But there's a comic view that exists in the world
that six months in the comedy, I got comic view.
Okay.
Because there was a-
That's a, I mean, six months, that's early.
It's stupid.
Well, I wasn't ready for it.
Well because...
I'm gonna be ready now.
Well here's a great reasoning though.
After...
You would, you would...
After, the union.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sure.
SAG after, they weren't SAG after, I was just after it,
but that's who the union was for doing TV stuff.
And they, they were boycotting Comic View
because you get Comic View, no flight,
a deal on a hotel.
Where's it shooting out of?
Atlanta this year.
A deal on a hotel.
Michael Blackson was flying all those guys this year.
And that's it.
That's all they had to do.
And to get yourself there six months in.
But you have to invest in it.
You go, I gotta go, I gotta go.
So most people are like, if you're after
or union in any kind of way, like you really couldn't do it or your scab
What I the Union meant nothing to me? I'm like what is after yeah, I'm not in that guy
So they were like yeah, they're like so six months in I sent him a tape and they were like yes come on out
You're gonna drive yours. You're gonna get yourself down here. Come on down
I didn't care at all actually I thought that go I flew down there and
Right away, which is my first that was my first time flying for Comedy Errors
for Comic View, but there was my first,
ever doing a gig was the Michael Blackson thing.
But for Comic View, I flew down there,
and another one, I was such a dumbass.
I just had like $200 on me, and I got to a hotel.
I was so like, starved for that kind of like,
like sex stuff and everything,
I just got to the hotel right away,
and like, I think 30 minutes later, a fat black hooker was like, starved for that kind of sex stuff and everything. I just got to the hotel right away, and I think 30 minutes later, a fat black hooker
was in my hotel room that I was unattracted to
and everything, but you just go, here's all of my money.
Because by the way, as soon as she got there,
you start realizing you're paying, you're like,
hey, I guess I wanna come, but can you leave
as soon as humanly possible?
This whole feels creepy and scary, but I was just like,
well, I'm alone in a hotel Is this what you do?
Might as well grab all you are South Jersey track grab a hooker
first two times I
Aren't even upstairs yet
Situation here first two times I paid for pussy unwittingly and I'm not even me thinking about until the end of day my grandmother technically paid for it
she was her cash both times yeah my first two times I ever paid for pussy
thanks a lot bubby to a very few times I haven't done it very many times but the
first two were my mom yeah you're opening the bit the fucking greeting card
how'd that set go for the six months in? Probably okay?
That went pretty good. Yeah, they loved me getting naked down there.
Sure.
And that's why I said, it's just dead and gone, that video.
But like, first one I did would be so great to have because
Jeans rolled up like LL Cool J, Pant leg rolled up.
That's my, that was my first introduction to it was Bad Boys of Comedy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we used to fast forward through everybody
to get to your set.
That was a fun one.
That was such a fun experience, too,
like getting to do it.
All those things, it's not a bad track,
especially starting young.
Starting, if you're like, when people start
like at 29, 30 years old, stuff like that,
and just committing to black circuit is a very low ceiling.
I was so young in it, and it's all there was there
That like it's such a great training because it just made me not afraid
I just got over being afraid of it situations pretty quick cuz you're like well
It's not gonna be as bad as the worst that way sure sure those people gay
We guys around when black Shogun was around at all. Did you do a black Shogun gene?
I mean dude your Rolodex is why I'm Philly laugh house comments
It's one of my favorite stories of all time
I think he's gone and I think it like I think this resolved itself
anyway
Not about you said Tommy to smooth earlier me and Kevin Hart one time got picked up or I would drive
And it was like hey, we're gonna go down to DC
it was me beefy funny and Tommy Too Smooth and Kevin Hart me and Kev are the new guys he going well Kevin Hart had a name no no it wasn't he kev the something although kev
the bastard yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Tommy Too Smooth was murdering oh yeah the characters and stuff whoa but we went down
to this guy you put a blonde wig on him? Good night
King Kadar we were going through his room in DC
Kadar's room and I don't remember I don't remember how me how I did or Kevin did I'm sure it was like
There were new jack spots. They called him. It was fine
I'm sure when somebody's room in another city not a club that that was the that was the oh, yeah
That was the life doing a new jack Jack spot. We're driving down.
New Jack spot.
They would bury on the bring out.
Sometimes they'd make it good,
or sometimes they're like,
this next guy coming, I don't know what,
he's gonna get there.
And you're just like, buddy, come on.
Yeah, give me a start.
I'm already shaking, I'm petrified over here.
So I went up, I think it was fine,
Kevin did his thing,
Beefy Funny went up, and had a rough set.
And Beefy Funny, I thought he was very funny.
Very fun, very nice guy, but like a wacky,
wacky character if you never met him before.
He's like all over the place.
And he had a bad set and then after the show,
we didn't see him, Tom Atchus moving on,
did his thing, he killed I guess.
And like me and Kevin is to the point where he's young comics
so we're just like, we're not gonna make them like say,
hey you wanna leave?
Like I guess whenever they wanna leave, we'll leave. You know I'm driving. Sure. But you're just like, we're not gonna make them say, hey, you wanna leave? I guess whenever they wanna leave, we'll leave.
You know I'm driving.
Sure, sure.
But you're just like, they're the older comics.
I remember just sitting there and me and Kev
are just killing time, just sitting blankly at a table.
And Tommy Too Smooth comes upstairs
from the bathroom area or something.
He goes, man, beefy's going through it, man.
And me and Kevin, we just don't know these guys
very well or anything. We're like, okay, that're like okay that's fine he's like a wild set and
he's like he's just he's not handling it with things well right now man I go yeah
it's just you know it's bad said it happens you know it's like we don't we
don't want this conversation happening I don't even know where it's going but
clearly Tommy wants to tell us something you know I mean and I'm like yeah man
sure and he's like he's just man the set just things in his life right now and Tommy wants to tell us something. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? And I'm like, yeah man, sure.
And he's like, he's just, man, the set,
just things in his life right now.
And we're like, sure man, there's no rush.
Whenever he's ready, we'll go and everything.
He goes, beefy's gay, man.
You're like, what?
Like, excuse me?
You sure he wants us to know?
I think he came out of the closet ultimately,
but it was, I think he passed away now. He just wanna stop at Wawa. But he goes, beefy's gay. I'm like, why are you want this to know? I think he came out of the closet ultimately, but like it was a I think he passed away now
You guys wanna stop at Wawa?
It was beefy's gay. I'm like, why are you doing this? We're not asking you let him go cry it out
And then we'll get on the road. It was a bad set man
Man, I get bombed so bad. I'm gonna turn gay
That's just a funny line I have here in your life beefy's gay man
I gotta get home, dude.
Wake up, dude.
That all sunshine and roses.
Me and Kevin were just like, what do you, why?
Do you think he wants us to know this yet?
Like, you just confess to us like two new comics or you're just you
they're just using us for the ride, which is fine.
You know what I mean? Like it is what it is.
That used to happen all the fine. You know, I mean like it is what it is They used to happen our way one time Kurt
Me Kurt Metzger and his ex-girlfriend Jessica who was with for a long time
She would kind of come along a lot of stuff sure
What's the car and?
This car at the time. This is a hatchback 87 Honda Accord the bomb mobile
Right is it is it paint or is it just the color of the metal?
Who knows? I still don't know. But a hatchback, you know, two seat, you know, three seats theoretically in the back or
whatever and this was a classic move in the black comedy. Two door, right? Especially when you're young, yeah.
Especially when you're young, this is a thing that happens in comedy a lot, like especially with like
older guys
who aren't necessarily making it either.
They're still hustling sort of in their own way, and you see the hustler's mentality.
So it would be me and Kurt and Tommy TooSmooth are supposed to go up to do the Boston Comedy
Club Sunday night in New York, meet up in front of the Laugh House, and then Tommy's,
you know, hey, I hope you don't mind my nephew and my cousin who just got out of jail are coming to the show. The cousin just
got out of jail, one of them. And he looked it. He just got out of jail. And we're like
yeah but here's the issue. I have this car and there's five of us or three, six of us
now in this car. And he's like, and they go, I go so I can't bring everybody and they and they just do like the we'll
Make it work. Just no way. It's like a poor pressuring. You just go kicking the can. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah
No, we I guess we get figured out. Here's the solution a guy who just got out of jail Tommy too smooth and his
No, I'm sorry Kurt got in the back now for this reason Tommy too smooth front in the back seat Kurt
Kurt got in the back now for this reason. Tommy too, smooth front in the back seat.
Kurt?
The two, just home from jail guys.
And Kurt's girlfriend laying across them in the thing.
Who when we got there, we get out of the car, she goes,
those guys kept trying to like really put fingers
near my ass and do this.
The whole ride up and we're just kind of like,
ah, is it?
We're like, I'm not.
What do you want us to do exactly?
Shut the fuck up.
They're gay! I'm like, this is the thing where you're like, I'm not. What do you want us to do exactly? Shut the fuck up. They're gay!
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm like, this is the thing where you're saying,
you're like, what is it exactly you want us to do?
Like.
I gotta get gifts for these guys.
Yeah, it's like, and you know, and by the way.
I got my mom's easy pass.
Yeah, and by the way, get your shit together
because it's gonna be happening the whole way home too.
So I'm gonna need you to suck it up
for a couple more hours if you don't mind sweetheart. You're
gonna get groped by this prison guy because Tommy Too Smooth's taking me up here.
I could be opening for him all over the eastern seaboard if this works out well.
You don't know what this could lead to for me. I could get to St. Louis.
Dude the steps. How many, if we all went back and thought about some sacrifices you made for a show that meant nothing in the world.
To me it was, it was selling my stack house and Iverson signed replica jerseys, but I got them signed to the game.
I got them signed to the game. I took them to a pawn shop for $40 to get gas to go to New York one time.
For a show that you're like, means nothing.
Stack house. Re replicas by the way
Funerals like they would have like they would have been worth a hundred grand forty bucks funerals weddings and everything
Yeah, yeah wild oh man. That is
Those good times though, but I said I really
the best fucking
The best college nice guys. What's the problem? Yeah? No listen the guy. He's trying to turn it around
He needs a good woman in his life. You want to drive? I'll get back there
He paid his set debate is that the society one of my favorite stories ever like a foot-in-the-mouth thing
I was dating a girl for a long time who was dumb as a brick
cute all that shit, but she was pretty stupid and
When we first started hanging out with Kurt and his girlfriend Kurt and all his friends
I liked hanging out with a lot very very different for me right my friends were all great dudes loyal dogs
But these are Philly
Let's go
Let it came a little more. Let's try to figure out chicks. Let's go fucking play basketball and go watch the Eagles
and Sixers and shit.
And Kerr was the first like, in art school,
they've all read shit and fucking.
I liked being sort of like in a world where I was like,
oh, I have to like kind of play up to these guys,
like conversations, but I'll bring my girlfriend around.
I was reading the far side the other day.
I'll bring her around a bunch,
and two foot in the mouth ones she did, it was great.
One my fault, the other one not, was
Kurt and his girlfriend had a friend named Jeff
who turned to Brooke.
Okay.
Before it was cool.
Gotcha.
And so Jeff, Brooke,
got a gig, and everyone was hustling for money, so
Kurt tells me one time, he goes, yeah, Jessica and Jeff Brooke are doing a,
they're making like a fetish video today,
like for this company where they're just gonna,
it's just feet stuff.
So they're just like breaking balloons with their feet
and like you don't even see their bodies.
Just their feet.
That's only in comedy, back in half the long,
it was like, hey, I got a good, 50 bucks, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
So, she does it, her. Keep Tommy Tooosley smooth out of the car her and Jeff Brooke do it do the video
And when we go to Kurt's house that night
She was telling us about and I go she goes. Oh, you want to see the video we made it's not pornographic at all
but so I'm sitting there with my girlfriend this ditz and Kurt and Jessica and
we're watching the video and she's you know breaking balloons and then they just
and we're watching the video and she's breaking balloons and then they just show a foot pushing a gas pedal
and my girlfriend goes, oh, I mean, it's crazy.
You could just see, totally, that's a guy's foot.
And then, you know where that story's going.
It was like, it was Kurt's girlfriend's foot.
We're gonna go.
We're gonna get out of here.
Look at the hoof on that one.
And the other foot in the mouth,
but this one was my fault, totally. So now I'm hanging out with curtain and meeting a bunch of his friends more and it's like
I'm like enjoying those hangs and it's like we all we all went to Olive Garden one night
It's me Kurt all is like you know art videos art school friends
And his girlfriend and my girlfriend's there and she's just being quiet because she just knows this is not her
Or is not my world really but I'm just like I love how you're out an olive garden
You're like babe don't embarrass me here. You gotta
Absolutely, I'm laying up here. Yeah, and then she goes don't ask for a cherry in your coke
talk about just talk about a vulnerability that I gave to some information I gave to somebody that they used against me, but
When she would talk of these things, I
was definitely being mean. Not like a, you know, like you dumb bitch or anything, but
I would just kind of have like an eye roll at her.
Stern, yeah.
Not Stern, no. When she would just get involved in the conversation, I would almost just kind
of have like a, you know, hey guys, you got to let her talk, I guess. You know what I
mean? Like she's here too, but I mean, I know. Uh-huh.
She's not smart like us.
I'm definitely, yes, yes. I'm definitely giving her that vibe. I go, sorry, she's here too, but I mean, I know. Uh-huh. You know, I'm definitely, yes, yes.
I'm definitely giving her that vibe.
I go, sorry guys, she's all looks.
Just give her another breadstick.
Yeah, she's all looks.
This one's not very learned.
She's wearing batting gloves.
Stop.
These knives stink.
I take off my gloves and goes, oh, a bottomless salad.
So.
It's the both playful of breadsticks. I and like one of them one of the shoot downs
I gave to her of like, you know, whatever I'm definitely trying to give off the vibe of like sorry guys
I brought the dummy, but you know, look at those tits, right and
Guys gentlemen, so shitty. Well, no, I didn't say anything. I'm giving up. That's the energy of definitely
Yeah, everyone's family there
And then it's just like she I don't know it talking about not knowing not looking around
I'm still around like I'm like these guys are all so smart and oh I could talk about this movie
None of my friends saw and boo
And I don't know that she's next to me just like it's boiling and when there is just a lull in table conversation ten people or so a
lull she just goes Jay wipes his ass till it bleeds Jesus Christ and use her like clanks of like
force and shit table and I'm like ha ha ha table manners this one here. I was just a little bleeds. She just had to get like so he's not so great
Don't let him fool you, but they try to act like he's fucking high society over here
There's no you you wipe your ass till it bleeds. I love the scallopini
Apologies
Dressing on the side for this
Buttered noodles with parmesan I
Have for no parsley on my noodles or that's when they come over he goes who had the tour of Italy
I don't know what she's talking about
Ladies and gentlemen, I mean big Jay Okerson Jason Michael
What's the other one Okerson? No share share share you would share too much
We're not we're nowhere
The Chronicles of Jason volume 4 we did a good teaser to eyes. I got beat up by promoters
Until the next installment. We did a good teaser too, I was like, I'm beat up by promoters.
We'll have to get that next time.
Yeah.
You got beat up by promoters.
Buddy, what do you got coming up?
What do you want the folks out there to know?
Plug away.
BigJComedy.com for all my dates, man.
Of course.
I'm going all over the country for the rest of the year.
So look for a city near you at BigJComedy.com.
Listen to The Bonfire five days a week, Faction Talk Series
XM103 with me and the great Robert Kelly, and of course,
Legion of Skanks on Gas Digital. And of course, the new Story wars. They hate it. I'll do some time. Yes story war show
We're six episodes in right now. So look for that on YouTube and gas digital very very fun show. That's everything
Love it, buddy. You are the fucking best. Yeah, my guys love man. We love you. Kippy
What do you got for them guys route 66 is Route 66 is coming up.
And also, if you're in New York this Tuesday, August 27th,
we're at the Gramercy Theater along with Big J.
O.
Kirsten. We're going to be doing EYG and friends.
We got Norman. We got Ari.
Get your tickets if they're still available.
Gang, we love you and we'll see you next week.
Peace.